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Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-15-2019
The REAL Hearst Castle Library
Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), maniacs, egomaniacs, kleptomaniacs, dipsomaniacs, nymphomaniacs, megalomaniacs, and, naturally, bibliomaniacs. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which, to tell you the truth, I'm not sure if they're pants or some crazy weird undiagnosed skin disease.
Pic Note:
345 [Last week's library pic] is NOT the Hearst Castle library. It is the Gothic Study. The Castle's library looks completely different.Quite right. I should've been more careful. Today's pic shows the actual library. Update: Thanks to Chi-Town Jerry, here is a much larger, zoomable version of the library. So you can really examine all of the ornate stuff up close.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 08, 2019 12:50 PM (/OqVH)
It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®
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Free Speech For Me -- And For Thee Somebody must be slipping up at the Guardian, because it published a review of a conservative (actually, libertarian) book that is not sneeringly dismissive. In fact, it's actually sympathetic:
When a member of the American Nazi party spoke at the University of California, Berkeley, in 1964, he did so at the invitation of a leftwing student group. As a stunt to promote the event – part of a series which also featured Malcolm X, the conservative William F Buckley, communists and a member of the fringe rightwing John Birch Society – the students wore Nazi uniforms.The book is Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump by Robby Soave who writes for Reason.com. Yeah, I know. But he did good work helping to expose that UVA rape hoax, so I'll give him that.
All such guests were “greeted politely”, according to the feminist scholar Jo Freeman, and no one tried to stop them speaking. Debates about what the speakers had said, not whether they should have been allowed to say it, “dominated student bull sessions for days”.
Since the 2016 election, college campuses have erupted in violent protests, demands for safe spaces, and the silencing of views that activist groups find disagreeable. Who are the leaders behind these protests, and what do they want? In Panic Attack, libertarian journalist Robby Soave answers these questions by profiling young radicals from across the political spectrum...The result is a faithful cross-section of today's radical youth, which will appeal to libertarians, conservatives, centrist liberals, and anyone who is alarmed by the trampling of free speech and due process in the name of social justice.The Guardian review calls Soave's book "a wake-up call that the woke won't read." Again, I don't know how this got published. Maybe the Guardian's hard-line commie editors were called in to a marathon struggle session that day.
Who Dis:
Moron Recommendations
58 Just finished A Little Rebellion, third in the Crimson World Series. Jay Allen.I'm finding it difficult to read even the 2nd book of any series I've started lately. But if your attention span is long enough you can get the first three Crimson World books in this collection, the second three in this collection, and the last three in this collection. But while we're on the subject, this is an advert that appeared on the Book Series in Order site:
Great Heinlein-esque space opera. The only problem is that I got to the end and see that there are six, count 'em, six more books in the series! I'm not sure I can stay with it that long.Seems to me a story can be told in a trilogy.
For those of us with shorter attention spans.
Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:33 AM (RqZyu)
If you’re a fan of standalone thrillers then be sure to read any of the standalones by Brad Parks. The guy is a master! I’ve read over 50 different authors of standalone thrillers in the last year and no-one stands out like Brad.Parks has 3 standalones: Say Nothing
Closer Than You Know
The Last Act Let's look at the blurb for one of them, Closer Than You Know:
It was a lesson Melanie Barrick learned the hard way growing up in the constant upheaval of foster care. But now that she’s survived into adulthood—with a loving husband, a steady job, and a beautiful baby boy named Alex—she thought that turmoil was behind her.I used to have nightmare about scenarios like this when my kids were growing up. Not that somebody would plant bricks of cocaine throughout my house when I wasn't looking, but having the child protection services show up at my door and take my kids away for some bogus reason. I felt that all it would take would be one anonymous phone call from some malefactor claiming that OregonMuse abused his children and then it would be my responsibility to prove to CPS that I do NOT abuse my children and how can I prove a negative? Fortunately, that never happened. The Kindle edition of Closer Than You Know is $4.99, not a bad price. ___________ Anyone up for nordic crime thrillers? A lurking moron (Jimbro from the Hostages group blog) recommended the novels of the bestselling Norwegian author Jo Nesbø:
Until one Tuesday evening when she goes to pick up Alex from childcare only to discover he’s been removed by Social Services. And no one will say why. It’s a terrifying scenario for any parent, but doubly so for Melanie, who knows the unintended horrors of what everyone coldly calls “the system.”
Her nightmare grows worse when she arrives home to learn her house has been raided by sheriff’s deputies, who have found enough cocaine to send Melanie to prison for years. The evidence against her is overwhelming, and if Melanie can’t prove her innocence, she’ll lose Alex forever.
I recently read The Redbreast which was fantastic. The initial plot jumps around between the present (circa 2000’s) and the events of a specific WW2 campaign which directly ties in to the current story. It was a little confusing at first and the action takes place in Denmark so I wasn’t familiar with the geography. It’s the 3rd of 12 novels but stands alone with only a few notable callbacks.The Amazon blurb is quite effusive, moreso than Amazon blurbs usually are:
The Redbreast is a fabulous installment in Nesbø’s tough-as-nails series protagonist, Oslo police detective Harry Hole. A brilliant and epic novel, breathtaking in its scope and design—winner of The Glass Key for best Nordic crime novel and selected as the best Norwegian crime novel ever written by members of Norway’s book clubs—The Redbreast is a chilling tale of murder and betrayal that ranges from the battlefields of World War Two to the streets of modern-day Oslo. Follow Hole as he races to stop a killer and disarm a ticking time-bomb from his nation’s shadowy past. Vogue magazine says that “nobody can delve into the dark, twisted mind of a murderer better than a Scandinavian thriller writer”…and nobody does it better than Jo Nesbø! James Patterson fans should also take note.Nesbø himself sounds like quite a man: his Amazon author's page says that in addition to writing crime novels, he is also a musician, songwriter, and an economist. The Kindle edition of The Redbreast is a reasonable $7.49. And if you like it, there are 11 other installments. in the series. ___________ 'Ette Secret Square recommends an old classic:
The book I am currently reading is a Penguin Classics edition of "Uncle Tom's Cabin". So far I have been pleasantly surprised at how good it is... and how well it explains exactly what people were really thinking about the slavery issue in the early 1850s. I know it gets a bad rap for being racist and overly sentimental, and it is in parts, but it is IMO way better than its reputation and deserves to be read now more than ever. Some of the moral dilemmas and justifications that the slave owners in the book face (not all of them are portrayed as being bad people, by the way; Stowe's treatment of the slaves and their owners is much more evenhanded than one would think) could very easily be applied to issues of today like abortion and illegal immigration.Uncle Tom's Cabin (free on Kindle, also Gutenberg) was a runaway bestseller in its day. There were a number of versions adapted for the stage and the travelling "Tom shows" were very popular. Not all of them were faithful to the book, and the wiki entry says that some even turned it around and made it pro-slavery(!) And Uncle Tom really wasn't an "Uncle Tom". I'd like to know how that stereotype ever got started. I like this comment:
Posted by: Secret Square at September 08, 2019 09:15 AM (9WuX0)
The edition I'm reading was published in the early 80s and comes with an introduction by a lady professor of feminist bent, who says that people who criticize Uncle Tom for being too submissive and deferential to "Mas'r" are overlooking the fact that Stowe intends for him to be a Christ figure and not an ordinary man. The whole book is very much immersed in a religious sensibility that, for obvious reasons, today's snowflakes have trouble grasping. There are also instances in which Uncle Tom stands up for himself and his beliefs even (ultimately) at the cost of his own life. Additionally, there are other slave characters in the book who are quite militant about gaining their freedom by any means necessary.If someone is compiling a "Books Every American Should Read" list, Uncle Tom's Cabin should be at or near the top.
Posted by: Secret Square at September 08, 2019 09:25 AM (9WuX0)
Books By Morons Moron author Max Cossack (author of the political thrillers Khaybar, Minnesota and Zarah's Fire) has just published a brand new novel. Morons especially may get a kick out of it. It's a satire of political correctness called Simple Grifts: A Comedy of Social Justice.
Professor Soren Pafko has made a life and career out of lying, conniving, manipulating, and abusing everyone in his path. So far, it’s working great: he’s Chair of his College’s Department of Comparative Literature; he’s leader of the local chapter of the Democratic Communists of America; and when he wants to cheat on his wife, he’s got his pick of women who think he’s the second coming of Che Guevara. In short, his life is peachy. But when he flunks local yokel Gus Dropo’s teenage son for a politically incorrect classroom comment, everything in Professor Pafko’s world begins to go hilariously wrong.
And the price is right: just $2.99 for the eBook, $12.99 for the paperback.
H/t to the lurking moron who tipped me to this.
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Erstwhile moron 'Mastiff' is the editor on a fantasy anthology I mentioned awhile back. The Wand that Rocks the Cradle has just been published. It's all about family:
Warm, heartbreaking, tender, poignant—eight fantasy stories of the family.One of the stories in this anthology is by a moron most of you probably know, Wolfus Aurelius (as 'P.L. Sundeson'). The Wand that Rocks the Cradle: Magical Stories of Family, is available on Kindle for $4.99. It's also out in paperback. Incidentally, several of Wolfus' other stories have wound up on a free site called Beneath the Rainbow, here and here. ___________ Lurking (mostly) moron River Cat, author of the novel The Book of Cain, which I pimped some months ago, has just published a novella called The Relic: A Sea Story
Family is filled with magic. It can be the warm magic of love, with bonds that can never be broken; it can be the bitter magic of old resentments and keen disappointments. It can be achingly beautiful or terrifyingly cruel.
Explore the hidden depths of family in this anthology of stories from celebrated and award-winning authors. Transport yourself to dazzling settings like an isolated lake cottage watched over by a mysterious protector, a reality-TV show about a family of witches, a world besieged by dragon-wielding terrorists, an oddly relaxing coffee shop, and New Orleans after the rise of the unquiet dead.
Experience the wonder and magic of family.
Chickamauga Antietam Charles, otherwise known as Chick, is an old man living in the Safe Haven homeless shelter. Lame and destitute, his only valuables are cached away in a secret pocket of his ancient pea coat. It is Christmas. He awakes to find he has been given a present by a stranger who passed through in the wee hours of the morning when all were asleep, save for one little girl who insists it was Santa. The gift is a lottery ticket. And when it hits, the others want him to share the wealth, but he has only one goal, and it obsesses him to his very marrow. He must go to Spain. To retrieve what was taken from him so many years ago—a theft that made him into the wreck he has been ever since. But to do it he must relive the sea story that started it all.The Kindle price is $3.00. ___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.
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Morning!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 09:01 AM (438dO)
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Tolle Lege
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 09:01 AM (ZCEU2)
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YayYYYY!
Posted by: Bruce at September 15, 2019 09:01 AM (vd8XM)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope veryone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 09:02 AM (bmdz3)
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If that ceiling is wood, can you imagine the carpentry work involved????
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 09:02 AM (438dO)
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Currently re-reading the Heirs of Alexandria series by by Mercedes Lackey.
Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2019 09:03 AM (mpXpK)
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Reading Eagles to Glory by John Gill about the French allied German contingents. It is taking each contingent separately through the 1809 Austrian campaign.
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 09:04 AM (ZCEU2)
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The woodworking, both the ceiling and the furniture, is breathtaking. Thanks for posting that photo.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 09:04 AM (bmdz3)
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 09:04 AM (pqyXj)
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Turns out VIA and I are both re-reading
"The Theory of Retro-intabulator Thermodynamics and Their Relationship to Thelman Operation and Calibration"?
Only on AoS.
"The Theory of Retro-intabulator Thermodynamics and Their Relationship to Thelman Operation and Calibration"?
Only on AoS.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 15, 2019 09:04 AM (BiNEL)
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That is the most awesome coffered ceiling I have ever seen, but is there a kid's sled in there somewhere hiding?
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 09:05 AM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 09:05 AM (pqyXj)
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Interesting PIE chart.
There's a sign in the lunchroom that says something about "sus derechas" and it got me wondering why rights, as in human rights, share the same word with the direction right in so many languages.
Right, Recht (rechts), droit, derecha.
There's a sign in the lunchroom that says something about "sus derechas" and it got me wondering why rights, as in human rights, share the same word with the direction right in so many languages.
Right, Recht (rechts), droit, derecha.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:05 AM (FNXDu)
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And that's Tony Curtis and Vivien Leigh
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 09:05 AM (438dO)
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Uncle Tom's Cabin (free on Kindle, also Gutenberg)
was a runaway bestseller in its day. There were a number of versions
adapted for the stage and the travelling "Tom shows" were very popular.
Not all of them were faithful to the book, and the wiki entry says that some even turned it around and made it pro-slavery(!)
Uncle Tom's Cabin was unrealistic antislavery propaganda.
was a runaway bestseller in its day. There were a number of versions
adapted for the stage and the travelling "Tom shows" were very popular.
Not all of them were faithful to the book, and the wiki entry says that some even turned it around and made it pro-slavery(!)
Uncle Tom's Cabin was unrealistic antislavery propaganda.
Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2019 09:06 AM (mpXpK)
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oops.. Janet Leigh!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 09:06 AM (438dO)
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Working through The Canterbury Tales at the moment.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 15, 2019 09:07 AM (SgjGX)
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Whoever is wearing 'these pants' should be careful. They look like something where a surgeon would say: "The legs are too far gone. We'll have to amputate."
Who (or what) comes up with these 'designs'. There's a lot of hatred for humanity expressed in them.
Who (or what) comes up with these 'designs'. There's a lot of hatred for humanity expressed in them.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 09:08 AM (bmdz3)
Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at September 15, 2019 09:08 AM (EMi53)
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Unreal!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2019 09:08 AM (CDGwz)
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Jamie Lee Curtis's parents. She got her Mom's bosom.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 09:09 AM (1UZdv)
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Chi-TownJerry- without knowing anything about that ceiling and just seen it for the first time would absolutely guarantee it's all 100% real wood.
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 09:10 AM (ZCEU2)
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The spark guard on my muffler flange broke. Any advice on how to fix it without taking off the the coniption bolts?
Posted by: Klee-tus at September 15, 2019 09:10 AM (vqIkG)
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Hello book people!
Not much reading this week.
I just began flipping through Moon: An Illustrated History by David Warmflash*. Dang but those ancient Greeks were smart. Here’s how Aristarchus managed to roughly measure the moon’s diameter and distance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYh0oe7Yozc
How much ribbing did he get in school? Warmflesh!! Wooooooo!
Not much reading this week.
I just began flipping through Moon: An Illustrated History by David Warmflash*. Dang but those ancient Greeks were smart. Here’s how Aristarchus managed to roughly measure the moon’s diameter and distance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYh0oe7Yozc
How much ribbing did he get in school? Warmflesh!! Wooooooo!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:10 AM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2019 09:12 AM (Z+IKu)
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There's a sign in the lunchroom that says something about "sus derechas" and it got me wondering why rights, as in human rights, share the same word with the direction right in so many languages.
Right, Recht (rechts), droit, derecha.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:05 AM (FNXDu)
I think it's the old right hand/left hand thing.
With 90%+ of humanity being right-handed, it's an easy indicator that includes all groups the way hair or skin color or whatever wouldn't.
Same reason us left-handers are labelled as sinister.
Which, of course, we aren't.
*shifty eyes*
*evil laughter*
There's a sign in the lunchroom that says something about "sus derechas" and it got me wondering why rights, as in human rights, share the same word with the direction right in so many languages.
Right, Recht (rechts), droit, derecha.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:05 AM (FNXDu)
I think it's the old right hand/left hand thing.
With 90%+ of humanity being right-handed, it's an easy indicator that includes all groups the way hair or skin color or whatever wouldn't.
Same reason us left-handers are labelled as sinister.
Which, of course, we aren't.
*shifty eyes*
*evil laughter*
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 09:13 AM (pqyXj)
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23 - go back downstairs
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 09:13 AM (ZCEU2)
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Just found an old Hiaasen book Trap Line on Kindle Un for free.
I missed this somehow but it is in my cue now.
Right now working on Book 15 in the John Milton series. John is ex badass spy/killer that wakes up and decide to do right by others. Starts the AA, kicks drugs, and then proceeds to try to live a normal life. He always find that his skill (murder, death, mayhem) are needed to help out the latest poor, lost soul that enters his life. Fun books, lots of violence, little redeeming message, but it takes very little thoughts to pick and read.
I missed this somehow but it is in my cue now.
Right now working on Book 15 in the John Milton series. John is ex badass spy/killer that wakes up and decide to do right by others. Starts the AA, kicks drugs, and then proceeds to try to live a normal life. He always find that his skill (murder, death, mayhem) are needed to help out the latest poor, lost soul that enters his life. Fun books, lots of violence, little redeeming message, but it takes very little thoughts to pick and read.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 09:14 AM (JFO2v)
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Reading a book for the nth time is all I do any more. There are new (and old) ones I should read, but it's scary. Books I've already read are comforting and broken-in.
Posted by: hogmartin will be sad if you don't register for the fall MIMoMe at September 15, 2019 09:14 AM (t+qrx)
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Jamie Lee Curtis's parents. She got her Mom's bosom.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 09:09 AM (1UZdv)
Some kids keep their Mom's ashes, others...
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 09:09 AM (1UZdv)
Some kids keep their Mom's ashes, others...
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 09:15 AM (pqyXj)
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I'm a big Lovecraft fan, and a lot of people suggested I read stuff by Thomas Ligotti. He's not easy to find, but I finally scored a copy of a Penguin Classics anthology of his work.
It was . . . disappointing.
He's got Lovecraft's nihilism, but none of the cosmic scope. Basically Ligotti's stories are just a series of awful things happening to people for no good reason, all written in a kind of New Yorker prose, the kind of thing high school English teachers will call "literature."
Anybody want to buy a very lightly-used book?
It was . . . disappointing.
He's got Lovecraft's nihilism, but none of the cosmic scope. Basically Ligotti's stories are just a series of awful things happening to people for no good reason, all written in a kind of New Yorker prose, the kind of thing high school English teachers will call "literature."
Anybody want to buy a very lightly-used book?
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 15, 2019 09:17 AM (wBMpg)
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The whole book is very much immersed in a religious sensibility that, for obvious reasons, today's snowflakes have trouble grasping.
That is understandable. The Christian Church is about as solid on doctrine as the broad spectrum of observed traditions in Judaism.
When making those Venn Diagrams of Doctrine, the American Religion (various forms of Big Box free-will and Dispensationalism) intersects with the Orthodox Presbyterians in matters of the death and resurrection of Christ and the virgin birth, with possibly even Mary's virginity in dispute by the post moderns.
Now imagine a generation or two, who for SJW purposes have been detached from Shakespeare and other works from "dead white men".
They say most plays, movies and scripts derive from Shakespeare's works in one way or another.
I'm guessing Generation Z may be stuck with photos of a pancake on a cat's head and other deeply intellectual memes as their foundation for reading literature.
That is understandable. The Christian Church is about as solid on doctrine as the broad spectrum of observed traditions in Judaism.
When making those Venn Diagrams of Doctrine, the American Religion (various forms of Big Box free-will and Dispensationalism) intersects with the Orthodox Presbyterians in matters of the death and resurrection of Christ and the virgin birth, with possibly even Mary's virginity in dispute by the post moderns.
Now imagine a generation or two, who for SJW purposes have been detached from Shakespeare and other works from "dead white men".
They say most plays, movies and scripts derive from Shakespeare's works in one way or another.
I'm guessing Generation Z may be stuck with photos of a pancake on a cat's head and other deeply intellectual memes as their foundation for reading literature.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 15, 2019 09:17 AM (lD3vL)
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Back from vacation and ready to comment. Two weeks ago, in the evening after the book thread, I finished Nabokov's Laughter in the Dark and, although it was typically well written and had the trademark unique style of describing the settings (particularly the latter part experiencing the world by a person who'd lost his sight) the ending was just a tad bit too contrived to give it an unqualified recommendation. In typical fashion the ending had been alluded to throughout the narrative. After that I read a couple of his short stories that were well done and now it's on to his next full length work, Despair.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 09:18 AM (y7DUB)
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Jo Nesbo writes very good popcorn thrillers.
Some of the Harry Hole books are better than others.
But, they're always entertaining and don't strain credulity too much.
Some of the Harry Hole books are better than others.
But, they're always entertaining and don't strain credulity too much.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 09:18 AM (pqyXj)
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If I had to guess, I would assume the ceiling is plaster.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 15, 2019 09:18 AM (gNCcC)
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I know there's no cat in that Hearst library because none of the priceless urns have been toppled to the floor.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:19 AM (kQs4Y)
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I read The Capture of Quebec by Christopher Lloyd. Published in 1959 as part of Batsford's "British Battles Series," it is a short study of the French and Indian War focused upon Wolfe's campaign that resulted in his conquest of the French colonial fortress in 1759. It was interesting and I had not realized how geographically challenging it had been for the British. However, I don't think the author completely proves his thesis that General James Wolfe was the first expert in amphibious operations although it should be stated that he definitely seemed to have learned the correct lessons after the British futile attempt to conduct an amphibious operation at Rochefort in 1757. Lots of contemporary illustrations although the maps are mainly photographs of 18th C. maps that are reduced to such a small size as to be very difficult to read without a magnifier. Rating = 4.25/5.0
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 15, 2019 09:20 AM (5Yee7)
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I am still reading the (new?) Churchill biography by Roberts. We're just getting started on WWI.
It is massively convenient to read on Kindle so that I always have it with me, but there are so many passages I'd like to share with you scamps but I can't just put a sticky note in there.
It is massively convenient to read on Kindle so that I always have it with me, but there are so many passages I'd like to share with you scamps but I can't just put a sticky note in there.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:20 AM (FNXDu)
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Mentioned here several times, I read Justice On Trial: The Kavanaugh Confirmation and the Future of the Supreme Court by Mollie Hemingway and Carrie Severino. The authors begin with a brief history of the Supreme Court nominations from the Eisenhower administration to the present. They then present a detailed, step-by-step account from Trump's formation of a list of candidates through Kavanaugh's swearing in. I followed this case closely, but I learned much about the behind the scenes happenings. The book is very well researched and well written.
I also read Mark Levin's Unfreedom of the Press. While interesting and informative, I do not think that this was Mark's best offering.
Finally, on the Kindle, I read A Journal of the Plague Year by Daniel Defoe. This is an interesting, contemporary account of the plague in London in 1665. Despite the quarantine efforts of the Lord Mayor, the disease swept from the poorer sections across all of London and eventually to most of the major cities of England and to many towns and villages as well. This is a well told story of that terrible year.
I also read Mark Levin's Unfreedom of the Press. While interesting and informative, I do not think that this was Mark's best offering.
Finally, on the Kindle, I read A Journal of the Plague Year by Daniel Defoe. This is an interesting, contemporary account of the plague in London in 1665. Despite the quarantine efforts of the Lord Mayor, the disease swept from the poorer sections across all of London and eventually to most of the major cities of England and to many towns and villages as well. This is a well told story of that terrible year.
Posted by: Zoltan at September 15, 2019 09:20 AM (ZC3fR)
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That is the most awesome coffered ceiling I have ever seen, but is there a kid's sled in there somewhere hiding?
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 09:05 AM (ZCEU2)
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Hearst bought ceilings (among other things) out of Renaissance-era villas and had them transported to San Simeon for installation in his properties.
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 09:05 AM (ZCEU2)
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Hearst bought ceilings (among other things) out of Renaissance-era villas and had them transported to San Simeon for installation in his properties.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:21 AM (iB1oa)
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Chi-TownJerry- without knowing anything about that ceiling and just seen it for the first time would absolutely guarantee it's all 100% real wood.
Posted by: Skip
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yeah.. the bigger version shows it is real wood.. you can see the variations in the pieces.
I highly doubt you could get milling done like that these days.. Although I have seen some pretty intricate moldings re-created by specialized experts on This Old House.
Posted by: Skip
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yeah.. the bigger version shows it is real wood.. you can see the variations in the pieces.
I highly doubt you could get milling done like that these days.. Although I have seen some pretty intricate moldings re-created by specialized experts on This Old House.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 09:21 AM (438dO)
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Almost finished with Cornwell's "Winter King" and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I like the non-typical take on the Arthur legends (no spoilers) and discovered it doesn't take away from enjoying the classic myths we all grew up with. Also, I really like Cornwell's writing style. I thought his books would be slam-bang page turners but there are subtlties in his prose that make me slow down and appreciate the writing as well as the action. I noticed the same thing with "Master and Commander" and Nero Wolfe novels.
It may be a matter of age or improving taste or both but I don't read fiction as fast these days. During my school years, busy though they were, I would go through a LOT of fiction. Even my first reading of LOTR in seventh grade was a race to finish. Fifty plus years later I'm stopping to smell the adverbs, cadences, and word choices which slows me down but adds the my enjoyment of the books. That's a good trade off.
One other benefit is to my book budget. Since I already have almost every Cornwell series and stand alone books, same for Patrick O'Brian, and a ton of historical texts and novels, I probably have many years of reading on the shelves right now. Even if I didn't buy another book for five years I wouldn't run out of new reading material. There's a certain secure feeling about that.
It may be a matter of age or improving taste or both but I don't read fiction as fast these days. During my school years, busy though they were, I would go through a LOT of fiction. Even my first reading of LOTR in seventh grade was a race to finish. Fifty plus years later I'm stopping to smell the adverbs, cadences, and word choices which slows me down but adds the my enjoyment of the books. That's a good trade off.
One other benefit is to my book budget. Since I already have almost every Cornwell series and stand alone books, same for Patrick O'Brian, and a ton of historical texts and novels, I probably have many years of reading on the shelves right now. Even if I didn't buy another book for five years I wouldn't run out of new reading material. There's a certain secure feeling about that.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 09:22 AM (bmdz3)
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Reading a book for the nth time is all I do any more. There are new (and old) ones I should read, but it's scary. Books I've already read are comforting and broken-in.
Just the opposite. I have very high memory retention and technical books are already somewhat out-of-date immediately after publishing.
Read all of the classics growing up, so all that is left is this stereotypical or post-modern, nihilistic, SJW crap when it comes to fiction.
Even the Jack Reacher series became tedious when I'm supposed to believe that the protagonist is a bad-ass who deeply cares about Lefty causes such as abortion, plastic straws and open borders.
Just the opposite. I have very high memory retention and technical books are already somewhat out-of-date immediately after publishing.
Read all of the classics growing up, so all that is left is this stereotypical or post-modern, nihilistic, SJW crap when it comes to fiction.
Even the Jack Reacher series became tedious when I'm supposed to believe that the protagonist is a bad-ass who deeply cares about Lefty causes such as abortion, plastic straws and open borders.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 15, 2019 09:23 AM (lD3vL)
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I'm not sure if they're pants or some crazy weird undiagnosed skin disease.
*******
The two are closely related, although I don't have a fancy-schmancy etymology chart to go along with it.
ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code Q80.0
Ichthyosis vulgaris - a skin condition in which dead skin cells, instead of sloughing off normally, accumulate into thick, scaly plaques
see related:
Icky those are vulgar - those pants
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The two are closely related, although I don't have a fancy-schmancy etymology chart to go along with it.
ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code Q80.0
Ichthyosis vulgaris - a skin condition in which dead skin cells, instead of sloughing off normally, accumulate into thick, scaly plaques
see related:
Icky those are vulgar - those pants
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 09:23 AM (m45I2)
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Tony Curtis?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 09:24 AM (cqNba)
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Good morning, Maroons! Oregon Muse, you've outdone yourself this morning. Wall of text actually worth reading, fascinating etymology picture with link I'm going to follow, and my name in lights!
That qualifies for upgraded membership, right? I think I'm up to cardboard now.
That qualifies for upgraded membership, right? I think I'm up to cardboard now.
Posted by: RI Red at September 15, 2019 09:25 AM (PmjOn)
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Bernard Shwartz and Janet Leigh
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:26 AM (arJlL)
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Oh, and hiya
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:26 AM (arJlL)
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. Even if it's these pants, which, to tell you the truth, I'm not sure if they're pants or some crazy weird undiagnosed skin disease.
How exactly does one wash those "pants"?
Or are they one-time-wear where the victim scrapes them off at the end of the day.
Sort of a modern colorful take on tar and feathering.
How exactly does one wash those "pants"?
Or are they one-time-wear where the victim scrapes them off at the end of the day.
Sort of a modern colorful take on tar and feathering.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 15, 2019 09:26 AM (lD3vL)
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How much ribbing did he get in school? Warmflesh!! Wooooooo!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:10 AM (kQs4Y)
Probably not as much as professional bull rider Ryan Dirteater.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:10 AM (kQs4Y)
Probably not as much as professional bull rider Ryan Dirteater.
Posted by: weirdflunky at September 15, 2019 09:27 AM (cknjq)
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 09:27 AM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Gaylord el Jefe at September 15, 2019 09:27 AM (Ndje9)
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I say it most weeks but I really enjoy the random paintings and photos OM includes in the post. They are always pleasant, sometimes funny and sometimes clever.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 09:27 AM (bmdz3)
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Fassbinder made a movie of "Despair" by Nabokov.
It's pretty good if you can find it.
Not as good as the book.
But, I think that AKKSHOEALLEY Nabokov is a lot like P G Wodehouse -
in that both them are great writers because of the way they tell a story.
Their prose styles and novelistic approaches really set them apart.
Couldn't be more different in subject matter though.
It's pretty good if you can find it.
Not as good as the book.
But, I think that AKKSHOEALLEY Nabokov is a lot like P G Wodehouse -
in that both them are great writers because of the way they tell a story.
Their prose styles and novelistic approaches really set them apart.
Couldn't be more different in subject matter though.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 09:30 AM (pqyXj)
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https://tinyurl.com/y5e74wgn
A bigger, zoomable version of the library..
There is something protruding from every other coffer.. might be a sprinkler system.. or just more ornateness!
A bigger, zoomable version of the library..
There is something protruding from every other coffer.. might be a sprinkler system.. or just more ornateness!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 09:30 AM (438dO)
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Also, I really like Cornwell's writing style. I thought his books would
be slam-bang page turners but there are subtlties in his prose that
make me slow down and appreciate the writing as well as the action.
I would like to get that book in the Kindle format as I have read it from the library. But the followup books are too expensive.
be slam-bang page turners but there are subtlties in his prose that
make me slow down and appreciate the writing as well as the action.
I would like to get that book in the Kindle format as I have read it from the library. But the followup books are too expensive.
Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2019 09:31 AM (mpXpK)
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Tony Curtis and Bruce Lee.
Posted by: Gaylord el Jefe at September 15, 2019 09:31 AM (Ndje9)
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"There is something protruding from every other coffer.. might be a sprinkler system.. or just more ornateness!"
Ornate, gothic henweighs.
Ornate, gothic henweighs.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 09:32 AM (cqNba)
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 09:34 AM (dmoiP)
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I'm currently reading David Price's Love and Hate in Jamestown: John Smith, Pocahontas and the Start of a New Nation. I'm only about 5 chapters in, but so far, this has been an exceedingly page-turning book. It reads as an unbelievable action novel as it chronicles John Smith's 1606/1607 expedition to the New World, as commissioned by a London company. It's especially interesting the internal politics, if you will, of the various friendly and not-friendly tribes in the VA area. Indians were not at all "the earth belongs to everyone and no one owns it," peaceful go-alongs. They were vicious, barbaric and territorial. It's very interesting to read how Smith was trying to outthink them, as they were trying to outthink him on strategic matters. So far, it has been very intriguing.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM (JoUsr)
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But did Hearst READ all those books? Huh?
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM (sdi6R)
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Ornate, gothic henweighs.
You're going to do this all day, aren't you...
(sigh)
OK, what's a "henweigh" ?
You're going to do this all day, aren't you...
(sigh)
OK, what's a "henweigh" ?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM (lD3vL)
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Tony Curtis famous viking line
Yonder lies the castle of my fodder.
Posted by: rhennigantx
It was "Yondah Lies da castle........"
Yonder lies the castle of my fodder.
Posted by: rhennigantx
It was "Yondah Lies da castle........"
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM (arJlL)
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I know there's no cat in that Hearst library because none of the priceless urns have been toppled to the floor.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:19 AM (kQs4Y)
The urns are forgeries. Hearst had commissioned collectors during the war to find them (which is a whole story in itself), but German agents intercepted them and dropped hints that led them to the fake urns. In other words, Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:19 AM (kQs4Y)
The urns are forgeries. Hearst had commissioned collectors during the war to find them (which is a whole story in itself), but German agents intercepted them and dropped hints that led them to the fake urns. In other words, Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads.
Posted by: hogmartin will be sad if you don't register for the fall MIMoMe at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM (t+qrx)
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Morning everyone! Today is the official end of my convalescence. I'm back to working a full schedule tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. Still two weeks to go before I'm supposed to do anything strenuous.
I've been passing the time reading and this week stumbled upon a true stinker: Frances Lannon's take on the Spanish Civil War titled (get this) "The Spanish Civil War."
That would be the fourth book of that title I own. I should say "owned."
I ended up returning it. It is part of the Osprey line, which I've always enjoyed, but it's basically a bunch of warmed-over Comintern propaganda. Totally useless as history. I gave it two stars on Amazon (the maps are nice) but my author blog (link in name) has a more extensive take down on it.
In brief, I find the Spanish Republic "Lost Cause" people more obnoxious than the Confederate "Lost Cause" types, simply because Southern apologists are not considered "mainstream history" while Spanish Republican ones are.
It's garbage and I can't stand it. Still re-reading Hugh Thomas and in light of my other research, his account isn't doing that well. He's got lots of quotes and minutae, but his bias (even in the revised edition) is pretty bad and his snarky swipes against the Catholic Church make him look petty and bigoted.
I've been passing the time reading and this week stumbled upon a true stinker: Frances Lannon's take on the Spanish Civil War titled (get this) "The Spanish Civil War."
That would be the fourth book of that title I own. I should say "owned."
I ended up returning it. It is part of the Osprey line, which I've always enjoyed, but it's basically a bunch of warmed-over Comintern propaganda. Totally useless as history. I gave it two stars on Amazon (the maps are nice) but my author blog (link in name) has a more extensive take down on it.
In brief, I find the Spanish Republic "Lost Cause" people more obnoxious than the Confederate "Lost Cause" types, simply because Southern apologists are not considered "mainstream history" while Spanish Republican ones are.
It's garbage and I can't stand it. Still re-reading Hugh Thomas and in light of my other research, his account isn't doing that well. He's got lots of quotes and minutae, but his bias (even in the revised edition) is pretty bad and his snarky swipes against the Catholic Church make him look petty and bigoted.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:36 AM (cfSRQ)
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I have just finished "War Bows" by Mike Loades (Osprey Publishing, 2019, hard cover, 312 pages). If you have any interest in military history and/or archery this is great read. The author is an archery fanatic and he brings a vast breadth of knowledge to this work. He draws upon historical works, archeological discoveries, ancient manuals for military archers from many culture (including but not limited to the English, Arabs, Ottomans, Manchus, Chinese and Japanese), the experience of modern re-enactors and the makers of modern replicas of ancient bows. Not least is his own life time of experience as an archer; shooting with replicas of ancient war bows on foot, from horse back and from chariots.
This book is divided into four sections: The Longbow, The Crossbow, The Composite Bow and The Japanese "Yumi" (plus an Epilogue where Loades apologizes for not going into many other interesting aspects of the subject (!) for lack of space).
Among the many pleasure offered by the book are the gorgeous illustrations. These include modern photographs, pictures taken from ancient works on archery and the beautiful full color battle paintings that Osprey is famous for. These last include: English archers at the Battle of Crecy, a chariot battle between Egyptians and Hittites and one of Parthian horse archers attacking a line of Roman legionaries.
Aside form the pleasure of reading an excellent work of history, one that displays a remarkable range of knowledge and is amazingly detailed (and yet manages to remain clear and readable throughout) "War Bows" offers a treasure trove of military esoterica. Did you know that Joan of Arc was twice wounded by arrows; once by a longbow and once by a crossbow? Ever hear of the Mughal crab bow? (No they did not use it to shoot crabs). How about the ice skating archers of the Manchu? Indian steel bows? The Chinese repeating crossbow (with poison arrows!)? But wait, there's more! However, this comment is way too long already.
To conclude, I will make two points: if you enjoy the occasional online debate on the question of Longbow vs Crossbow, get this book. You will be ready to totally own the argument (whichever side you take). And, if you have a young relative or friend who is into military history, war gaming and/or modeling, this books will be a sure fire hit as a birthday or Christmas present. And, no, I don't get a kickback for pushing this; I just think it is that good.
This book is divided into four sections: The Longbow, The Crossbow, The Composite Bow and The Japanese "Yumi" (plus an Epilogue where Loades apologizes for not going into many other interesting aspects of the subject (!) for lack of space).
Among the many pleasure offered by the book are the gorgeous illustrations. These include modern photographs, pictures taken from ancient works on archery and the beautiful full color battle paintings that Osprey is famous for. These last include: English archers at the Battle of Crecy, a chariot battle between Egyptians and Hittites and one of Parthian horse archers attacking a line of Roman legionaries.
Aside form the pleasure of reading an excellent work of history, one that displays a remarkable range of knowledge and is amazingly detailed (and yet manages to remain clear and readable throughout) "War Bows" offers a treasure trove of military esoterica. Did you know that Joan of Arc was twice wounded by arrows; once by a longbow and once by a crossbow? Ever hear of the Mughal crab bow? (No they did not use it to shoot crabs). How about the ice skating archers of the Manchu? Indian steel bows? The Chinese repeating crossbow (with poison arrows!)? But wait, there's more! However, this comment is way too long already.
To conclude, I will make two points: if you enjoy the occasional online debate on the question of Longbow vs Crossbow, get this book. You will be ready to totally own the argument (whichever side you take). And, if you have a young relative or friend who is into military history, war gaming and/or modeling, this books will be a sure fire hit as a birthday or Christmas present. And, no, I don't get a kickback for pushing this; I just think it is that good.
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at September 15, 2019 09:37 AM (iuRR5)
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booken morgen horden
I literally just finished a great book.- Sidequest: In Realms UnGoogled by Frank Fleming
a funny light fantasy that's unexpectedly... deep...I guess
on kindle and KU
I literally just finished a great book.- Sidequest: In Realms UnGoogled by Frank Fleming
a funny light fantasy that's unexpectedly... deep...I guess
on kindle and KU
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 09:37 AM (+72t1)
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"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Groucho Marx, who did Marxism right
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Groucho Marx, who did Marxism right
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 15, 2019 09:37 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:37 AM (arJlL)
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Jeebuz, hogmartin.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:37 AM (FNXDu)
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I have been reading and enjoying "We Have No Idea" by Jorge Cham and Daniel Whiteson. Cham's a cartoonist, and Whiteson's a physicist. The book is about still-unknown topics in science -- the nature of dark matter, how gravity works, etc. As you may expect given that one of the authors is a cartoonist, it's very jokey (and extensively illustrated) but there's a solid core of Real Science.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 15, 2019 09:37 AM (wBMpg)
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Ornate, gothic henweighs.
You're going to do this all day, aren't you...
(sigh)
OK, what's a "henweigh" ?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
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You touch hot stoves for fun, don't you?
You're going to do this all day, aren't you...
(sigh)
OK, what's a "henweigh" ?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
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You touch hot stoves for fun, don't you?
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 09:37 AM (dmoiP)
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In other words, Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads.
I... uh...
Forget it. It's the Book Thread.
I... uh...
Forget it. It's the Book Thread.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 09:37 AM (sdi6R)
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Ok, going OT, but I gotta go do some stuff. In addition to OM, who kills it with weekly book thread, bandersnatch, that was a great hunting/fishing thread yesterday. Only got to it this morning cuz life, but read every comment. Interesting how Maroons have hugely different but intersecting likes and lives. And expertise across the spectrum.
BBL.
BBL.
Posted by: RI Red at September 15, 2019 09:38 AM (PmjOn)
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Have any of you read Howard Frank Mosher's books? I picked up his first couple books, Disappearances and Where the Rivers Flow North, both set in Vermont's Northeast Kingdom, and enjoyed them a great deal because they dealt with quirky people in the area. Then his books got kind of sappy and he felt the need to insert blacks in prominent roles in a setting that is Paleface central, give or take a few Aboriginal Americans. Needless to say the usual suspects began raving about his "growth as a writer" and how he's created a new Yoknapatawpha county as I'm rolling my eyes and thinking "no, not even close, dipshits".
Anyway, because I was in Vermont on vacation, but south of the region he wrote about, I picked up Points North, a short story collection that was the last thing he did before dying. The stories aren't bad, mostly, but they remind me of why I liked him but then stopped reading him. After reading Ron Rash I know where to go for a first rate capture of the essence of a place and this ain't it. They're not bad, per se, and good enough to not say fuck it, but his first two books are where the magic is.
Anyway, because I was in Vermont on vacation, but south of the region he wrote about, I picked up Points North, a short story collection that was the last thing he did before dying. The stories aren't bad, mostly, but they remind me of why I liked him but then stopped reading him. After reading Ron Rash I know where to go for a first rate capture of the essence of a place and this ain't it. They're not bad, per se, and good enough to not say fuck it, but his first two books are where the magic is.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 09:39 AM (y7DUB)
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The interconnectedness of words could almost be evidence of a single language which everyone spoke in ancient times until they took to arguing over a construction project. I understand that the various words for mother are similar related.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:39 AM (+y/Ru)
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Oh, new arrivals this week:
Aces of the Condor Legion (Aces 99)
Spanish Republican Aces (Aces 106)
The Condor Legion (Elite 131)
The Spanish Foreign Legion (MAA 161)
I've just about exhausted Osprey's books on the topic and equipment. There are a couple more books on aces, but I'm not sure they'll add much. I'm more interested in picking up Henry G. Payne's biography of Franco, but I'm going to try to finish the re-read of Thomas first. By then the mania may have passed.
Aces of the Condor Legion (Aces 99)
Spanish Republican Aces (Aces 106)
The Condor Legion (Elite 131)
The Spanish Foreign Legion (MAA 161)
I've just about exhausted Osprey's books on the topic and equipment. There are a couple more books on aces, but I'm not sure they'll add much. I'm more interested in picking up Henry G. Payne's biography of Franco, but I'm going to try to finish the re-read of Thomas first. By then the mania may have passed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:40 AM (cfSRQ)
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17 Working through The Canterbury Tales at the moment.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile
In a faculty meeting, an English professor (a snotty woman of endless arrogance who-thinks her-shit-don't-stink) said, in a discussion of "general education" requirements:
"What does the Science Dept. faculty know of English Literature?"
I said to her "Whan thatte Aprilles shower soote..." and the rest of the Prologue in proper Middle English, up to to when the narrator says he was at the Tabard Inn and starts describing the pilgrims...
...ending with "I'm a scientist, don't fuck with me".
Got some heat for my last line, but the look on that bitches face was priceless.
My colleagues, who knew what I was going to do the moment she mouthed off, were peeing their pants with glee.
My finest putdown. Ever.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile
In a faculty meeting, an English professor (a snotty woman of endless arrogance who-thinks her-shit-don't-stink) said, in a discussion of "general education" requirements:
"What does the Science Dept. faculty know of English Literature?"
I said to her "Whan thatte Aprilles shower soote..." and the rest of the Prologue in proper Middle English, up to to when the narrator says he was at the Tabard Inn and starts describing the pilgrims...
...ending with "I'm a scientist, don't fuck with me".
Got some heat for my last line, but the look on that bitches face was priceless.
My colleagues, who knew what I was going to do the moment she mouthed off, were peeing their pants with glee.
My finest putdown. Ever.
Posted by: retropox at September 15, 2019 09:40 AM (i8uro)
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Horde parents: If you don't have The Talk with your kids, who will?
Don't let them learn about lutefisk from Nordic thrillers.
Don't let them learn about lutefisk from Nordic thrillers.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM (guWuK)
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So, since she had direct experience in the matter, which one did Joan of Arc prefer?
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM (wBMpg)
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great hunting/fishing thread
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TexasMomsforBeto!@texlynnforever
Here is the thing... I don't think you could even eat the meat of an animal killed with a semi automatic weapon. It would be so full of shrapnel.
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Important hunting/food preparation tip.
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TexasMomsforBeto!@texlynnforever
Here is the thing... I don't think you could even eat the meat of an animal killed with a semi automatic weapon. It would be so full of shrapnel.
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Important hunting/food preparation tip.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM (+y/Ru)
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I am currently reading Babe The Legend comes to Life by Robert W. Creamer and its pretty good.
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM (arJlL)
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Missed to regulate as in rule or manage, as in the 2nd amendment. Hope that wasn't an conscious omission.
Posted by: Jean at September 15, 2019 09:42 AM (B7KlG)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 09:42 AM (m45I2)
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In other words, Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads.
Posted by: hogmartin will
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*thunderous pounding on door to the Horde Hideout*
* opens door to reveal vast mob wielding torches and pitchforks*
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.
.
*points*
"He's over there"
Posted by: hogmartin will
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*thunderous pounding on door to the Horde Hideout*
* opens door to reveal vast mob wielding torches and pitchforks*
.
.
.
*points*
"He's over there"
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 09:42 AM (dmoiP)
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The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 09:43 AM (JFO2v)
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Thanks for the shout out... I am still working my way through the later chapters of Uncle Tom -- after he's been sold to evil Simon Legree who is going all out to make his life, literally, a living hell. There are some eye-rolling parts and it does get pretty preachy at times but it ALSO makes you think.
Additionally, Stowe was quite aware that as much of a moral abomination as slavery was, simply freeing all the slaves wasn't going to solve the problem... they would also have to learn or be taught how to live as free, morally responsible persons. Several of the slave characters describe their upbringing in a manner that, sorry to say, probably isn't much different from the way a lot of kids in "the hood" grow up today.... being shuffled from household to household, not learning to read or do anything useful, not being taught right from wrong, learning only how to take advantage of others, etc. It would definitely send today's SJWs into apoplectic fits.
Additionally, Stowe was quite aware that as much of a moral abomination as slavery was, simply freeing all the slaves wasn't going to solve the problem... they would also have to learn or be taught how to live as free, morally responsible persons. Several of the slave characters describe their upbringing in a manner that, sorry to say, probably isn't much different from the way a lot of kids in "the hood" grow up today.... being shuffled from household to household, not learning to read or do anything useful, not being taught right from wrong, learning only how to take advantage of others, etc. It would definitely send today's SJWs into apoplectic fits.
Posted by: Secret Square at September 15, 2019 09:44 AM (9WuX0)
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TexasMomsforBeto!@texlynnforever
Here is the thing... I don't think you could even eat the meat of an
animal killed with a semi automatic weapon. It would be so full of
shrapnel.
-
Important hunting/food preparation tip.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM (+y/Ru)
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And of course gun collectors everywhere perked up their ears.
"A gun firing shrapnel rounds? Where can I get one of these!?"
Here is the thing... I don't think you could even eat the meat of an
animal killed with a semi automatic weapon. It would be so full of
shrapnel.
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Important hunting/food preparation tip.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM (+y/Ru)
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And of course gun collectors everywhere perked up their ears.
"A gun firing shrapnel rounds? Where can I get one of these!?"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)
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hogmartin: yes, derby cover
hogmartin: yes, derby cover
Posted by: AltonJackson | The MiMoMe is next weekend!!!
Friday night we dine in Hell | click for details at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (KCxzN)
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In other words, Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads.
Posted by: hogmartin will
I don't get the pun
*feels stupid*
Posted by: hogmartin will
I don't get the pun
*feels stupid*
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (+72t1)
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Saw a book by Mary Hemingway , title : How it Was, a memoir of her years with Ernest. They sure did get around.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (S44lC)
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Speaking of college and free speech -
The best professor I had in college was a history Prof for a course titled "US-USSR Interactions".
He taught that course giving 8 separate points or view or theories that ran the spectrum from totally pro-US to totally pro-Soviet.
He never gave higher weight to one theory over another but his tests and homework required us to argue each point of view and often in comparison to another theory.
Best course eval. Taught me a hell of a lot about thinking and clarifying my thoughts.
The most useful view IMO was one near the middle that stated that Countries Goals almost never change through time and even political change. That regardless of gov't national goals remain the same.
This seems to work in the real world most often when looking at what is happening.
The best professor I had in college was a history Prof for a course titled "US-USSR Interactions".
He taught that course giving 8 separate points or view or theories that ran the spectrum from totally pro-US to totally pro-Soviet.
He never gave higher weight to one theory over another but his tests and homework required us to argue each point of view and often in comparison to another theory.
Best course eval. Taught me a hell of a lot about thinking and clarifying my thoughts.
The most useful view IMO was one near the middle that stated that Countries Goals almost never change through time and even political change. That regardless of gov't national goals remain the same.
This seems to work in the real world most often when looking at what is happening.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (pqyXj)
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(86) 78 The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
You godamnbetcha it rained in March.
The Little Ice Age was a bitch.
But the engerdering in the flowers afterwards was nice that year...
...and longen folke to go on pilgramages.
You godamnbetcha it rained in March.
The Little Ice Age was a bitch.
But the engerdering in the flowers afterwards was nice that year...
...and longen folke to go on pilgramages.
Posted by: retropox at September 15, 2019 09:46 AM (i8uro)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:47 AM (+y/Ru)
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Saw a book by Mary Hemingway , title : How it Was, a memoir of her years with Ernest. They sure did get around.
Posted by: kallisto
So did Babe Ruth
Posted by: kallisto
So did Babe Ruth
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:47 AM (arJlL)
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OK, what's a "henweigh" ?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM
.21 to .29 stone, same as in town.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM
.21 to .29 stone, same as in town.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 15, 2019 09:48 AM (guWuK)
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I don't get the pun
*feels stupid*
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (+72t1)
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It's bilingual.
Hearst vessel leads == Horst Wessel Lied
*feels stupid*
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (+72t1)
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It's bilingual.
Hearst vessel leads == Horst Wessel Lied
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:48 AM (iB1oa)
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Muldoon at September 15, 2019 09:23 AM (m45I2)
Is that the Latin term describing "plaque psoriasis" (sp?)?
Is that the Latin term describing "plaque psoriasis" (sp?)?
Posted by: Grannymimi at September 15, 2019 09:48 AM (u5LFV)
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:49 AM (arJlL)
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56 ... "I would like to get that book in the Kindle format as I have read it from the library. But the followup books are too expensive."
Hi Vic, If you check the Kindle Daily Deals, Cornwell books sometimes are offered. "The Winter King", first in the three book series, is available for 2.99 at the moment. The two follow-on books are ten bucks each. I lucked into almost all the Cornwell books for a buck or less at the used book store and grabbed them but I prefer the physical versions anyway. I understand why you prefer the e-books.
Does your library system offer a way to download books to your computer? They are on your computer or reader for a specified time and then disappear. Digital books from the library might save some money.
Hi Vic, If you check the Kindle Daily Deals, Cornwell books sometimes are offered. "The Winter King", first in the three book series, is available for 2.99 at the moment. The two follow-on books are ten bucks each. I lucked into almost all the Cornwell books for a buck or less at the used book store and grabbed them but I prefer the physical versions anyway. I understand why you prefer the e-books.
Does your library system offer a way to download books to your computer? They are on your computer or reader for a specified time and then disappear. Digital books from the library might save some money.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (bmdz3)
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Hearst vessel leads == Horst Wessel Lied
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:48 AM (iB1oa)
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Supposedly the reason they didn't have the Germans sing "Horst Wessel" at Rick's in "Casablanca" was because the studio didn't want to play the royalties.
"Die Wacht am Rhein" was public domain by then, so that's what they went with.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:48 AM (iB1oa)
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Supposedly the reason they didn't have the Germans sing "Horst Wessel" at Rick's in "Casablanca" was because the studio didn't want to play the royalties.
"Die Wacht am Rhein" was public domain by then, so that's what they went with.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (cfSRQ)
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I've been passing the time reading and this week stumbled upon a true stinker: Frances Lannon's take on the Spanish Civil War titled (get this) "The Spanish Civil War."
I ended up returning it. It is part of the Osprey line, which I've always enjoyed, but it's basically a bunch of warmed-over Comintern propaganda. Totally useless as history.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:36 AM (cfSRQ)
What!? I read that as a quick backgroundrounder prior to reading Orwell's Homage to Catalonia and didn't get a commie vibe from it. But it is the only Spanish Civil War history I have read. It did have good maps.
So which non-commie Spanish Civil War history do you most highly recommend for the horde?
I ended up returning it. It is part of the Osprey line, which I've always enjoyed, but it's basically a bunch of warmed-over Comintern propaganda. Totally useless as history.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:36 AM (cfSRQ)
What!? I read that as a quick backgroundrounder prior to reading Orwell's Homage to Catalonia and didn't get a commie vibe from it. But it is the only Spanish Civil War history I have read. It did have good maps.
So which non-commie Spanish Civil War history do you most highly recommend for the horde?
Posted by: cool breeze at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (UGKMd)
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Last week I finished There There by Tommy Orange, a story of various urban indigenous Americans, mostly centered in Oakland, and how they try to keep their culture going in an unusual setting. It was vividly written but I had a hard time keeping the characters straight, probably because there were too many of 'em. Anyway it held my interest throughout it, which is no mean feat.
Now we're on to Tom Jones, which is one of the reasons we formed the group in the first place: to explore the classics. It's when that gets deviated from that I start complaining.
Now we're on to Tom Jones, which is one of the reasons we formed the group in the first place: to explore the classics. It's when that gets deviated from that I start complaining.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 09:51 AM (y7DUB)
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Guten morgen meine fapperschoen!
That library looks rather dark and stuffy. I can practically smell the mildew and aging upholstery.
That library looks rather dark and stuffy. I can practically smell the mildew and aging upholstery.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 09:51 AM (NWiLs)
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Am still reading Signature on the Cell by Stephen C. Meyer, which elucidates the What-By-Now-Should-Be-Blindingly-Obvious-Even-To-Richard-Dawkins point that DNA, RNA and the internal processes of the cell in even its most basic functions are far to complicated and obviously designed to have arisen either in the time known to have passed since the universe "popped itself spontaneously into existence as required by gravity" (the latest insane theory in physics), or by way of natural selection through random mutations.
Great read. Complicated subject rendered so a Dumbass like me can understand it, which I appreciate.
Great read. Complicated subject rendered so a Dumbass like me can understand it, which I appreciate.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 15, 2019 09:51 AM (ePjOB)
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Supposedly the reason they didn't have the Germans sing "Horst Wessel" at Rick's in "Casablanca" was because the studio didn't want to play the royalties.
"Die Wacht am Rhein" was public domain by then, so that's what they went with.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (cfSRQ)
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Yup. It was still under copyright in a number of countries where they were planning on distributing the film.
"Die Wacht am Rhein" was public domain by then, so that's what they went with.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (cfSRQ)
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Yup. It was still under copyright in a number of countries where they were planning on distributing the film.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:52 AM (iB1oa)
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Just finished Joseph Wambaugh's "Hollywood Station."
Rating: Meh to okay.
Decent read, but, the glowing praise on the cover?
Reading the book itself, all I could think was, "As a work of fiction, it seemed awful lot like real life."
Rating: Meh to okay.
Decent read, but, the glowing praise on the cover?
Reading the book itself, all I could think was, "As a work of fiction, it seemed awful lot like real life."
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 09:52 AM (WEBkv)
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55 https://tinyurl.com/y5e74wgn
A bigger, zoomable version of the library..
There is something protruding from every other coffer.. might be a sprinkler system.. or just more ornateness!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 09:30 AM (438dO)
Thank you for this! The thread has been updated.
A bigger, zoomable version of the library..
There is something protruding from every other coffer.. might be a sprinkler system.. or just more ornateness!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 09:30 AM (438dO)
Thank you for this! The thread has been updated.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 15, 2019 09:52 AM (/FqKO)
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63
Tony Curtis famous viking line
Yonder lies the castle of my fodder.
Posted by: rhennigantx
It was "Yondah Lies da castle........"
IIRC the movie was "The Black Shield of Falworth."
Tony Curtis famous viking line
Yonder lies the castle of my fodder.
Posted by: rhennigantx
It was "Yondah Lies da castle........"
IIRC the movie was "The Black Shield of Falworth."
Posted by: Wethal at September 15, 2019 09:53 AM (3RspO)
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and Zephrys with his swaete breath...
I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer to see if they can guess what language each is.
I like to show them this 1624 gravestone as part of the same thing. Check out the Y with the embedded e.
http://bit.ly/2khv9mH
I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer to see if they can guess what language each is.
I like to show them this 1624 gravestone as part of the same thing. Check out the Y with the embedded e.
http://bit.ly/2khv9mH
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (FNXDu)
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Jo Nesbo is one of my favorite authors. I've read all the Harry Hole series and 3 non-Hole novels. I highly recommend Headhunters and also its movie adaptation. Brilliant writing, best thriller ever, IMHO.
Currently reading several Brother Cadfael series by Ellis Peters (Edith Pargeter) that are previously not available on Kindle. They are free to borrow for Amazon Prime subscribers.
Currently reading several Brother Cadfael series by Ellis Peters (Edith Pargeter) that are previously not available on Kindle. They are free to borrow for Amazon Prime subscribers.
Posted by: Oggi at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (Bk5Q+)
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106
Yup. It was still under copyright in a number of countries where they were planning on distributing the film.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:52 AM (iB1oa)
Good thing Disney didn't buy the rights. It would still be under copyright today.
Yup. It was still under copyright in a number of countries where they were planning on distributing the film.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:52 AM (iB1oa)
Good thing Disney didn't buy the rights. It would still be under copyright today.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (sdi6R)
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It was "Yondah Lies da castle........"
IIRC the movie was "The Black Shield of Falworth."
Posted by: Wethal at September 15, 2019 09:53 AM (3RspO)
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I seem to recall reading a review of the movie that consisted of those lines..and that was it.
IIRC the movie was "The Black Shield of Falworth."
Posted by: Wethal at September 15, 2019 09:53 AM (3RspO)
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I seem to recall reading a review of the movie that consisted of those lines..and that was it.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 09:55 AM (WEBkv)
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That library looks rather dark and stuffy. I can practically smell the mildew and aging upholstery.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 09:51 AM (NWiLs)
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Actually, given the scale of the rooms in the rest of the large house, it's relatively cozy. I much preferred the smaller "guest houses" on the estate.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 09:51 AM (NWiLs)
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Actually, given the scale of the rooms in the rest of the large house, it's relatively cozy. I much preferred the smaller "guest houses" on the estate.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:55 AM (iB1oa)
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I hated Uncle Tom's Cabin. I thought it was horribly written in an overly melodramatic style and could barely make it through one chapter before I just stopped reading.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (y7DUB)
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Eris, I had to stop midway through The Grave 's a Fine and Private Place - I was feeling sad, I think. Should I just skip ahead to Golden Tresses?
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (+72t1)
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Supposedly the reason they didn't have the Germans sing "Horst Wessel" at Rick's in "Casablanca" was because the studio didn't want to play the royalties.
Trying to imagine a royalty agent collecting in 1943.
Trying to imagine a royalty agent collecting in 1943.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (FNXDu)
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Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads.
*********
The plot was uncovered when the forensics team found bloody smudges on one of the fake German urns:
This was laid out in great detail by J.K. Rowling in the book "Herr Pottery and the Half-Blood Prints".
*********
The plot was uncovered when the forensics team found bloody smudges on one of the fake German urns:
This was laid out in great detail by J.K. Rowling in the book "Herr Pottery and the Half-Blood Prints".
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (m45I2)
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110
I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (FNXDu)
ISWYDT.
I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (FNXDu)
ISWYDT.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 09:57 AM (sdi6R)
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Trying to imagine a royalty agent collecting in 1943.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (FNXDu)
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"You Vill Pay Opp!"
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (FNXDu)
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"You Vill Pay Opp!"
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 09:57 AM (WEBkv)
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I hate getting WOOD in a library it messes with my pantaloon crease.Hearsts was the worst,limited seating and a wee coffin for a table and I thought he only read newspapers..News of the World was his favourite on a Sunday morn from the huge balcony overlooking the wild animals and the mist rising off the Pacific.
That's NOT a Castle baby it's a wet dream for the new NEWS Barons who would be better served is a sewer.
Visited the place and with a little reno it could be liveable.....................
That's NOT a Castle baby it's a wet dream for the new NEWS Barons who would be better served is a sewer.
Visited the place and with a little reno it could be liveable.....................
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 09:58 AM (5IHGB)
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96 OK, what's a "henweigh" ?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM
.21 to .29 stone, same as in town.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 15, 2019 09:48 AM (guWuK)
is that african or european?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM
.21 to .29 stone, same as in town.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 15, 2019 09:48 AM (guWuK)
is that african or european?
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 09:58 AM (JFO2v)
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So which non-commie Spanish Civil War history do you most highly recommend for the horde?
Posted by: cool breeze at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (UGKMd)
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Henry G. Payne's book of the same name.
Don't feel bad about missing the bias - that's how they pull it off.
They assume you know nothing and will buy into the whole "Franco was a Hitler clone" line of thinking when in fact it was a lot more complex.
Many of the Osprey books on the topic have Spanish authors who are far more aware of the complexity regarding the struggle (gosh, whoda thunk?). In fact, the backgrounders in most of the books on the topic is more balanced and informative than Lannon's garbage.
Posted by: cool breeze at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (UGKMd)
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Henry G. Payne's book of the same name.
Don't feel bad about missing the bias - that's how they pull it off.
They assume you know nothing and will buy into the whole "Franco was a Hitler clone" line of thinking when in fact it was a lot more complex.
Many of the Osprey books on the topic have Spanish authors who are far more aware of the complexity regarding the struggle (gosh, whoda thunk?). In fact, the backgrounders in most of the books on the topic is more balanced and informative than Lannon's garbage.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:58 AM (cfSRQ)
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"In other words, Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads."
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*Hogmartin releases pent up pun energy he's been holding for years, waiting for just the right opportunity*
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*Hogmartin releases pent up pun energy he's been holding for years, waiting for just the right opportunity*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:59 AM (kQs4Y)
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Currently reading several Brother Cadfael series by Ellis Peters (Edith Pargeter) that are previously not available on Kindle. They are free to borrow for Amazon Prime subscribers.
Posted by: Oggi at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (Bk5Q+)
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If you enjoy Cadfael, you might also enjoy the medieval historical fiction she wrote under her real name, Edith Pargeter. Titles include "A Bloody Field by Shrewsbury", the Brothers of Gwyedd quartet, and "The Heaven Tree" series.
Posted by: Oggi at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (Bk5Q+)
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If you enjoy Cadfael, you might also enjoy the medieval historical fiction she wrote under her real name, Edith Pargeter. Titles include "A Bloody Field by Shrewsbury", the Brothers of Gwyedd quartet, and "The Heaven Tree" series.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:59 AM (iB1oa)
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124 "In other words, Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads."
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*Hogmartin releases pent up pun energy he's been holding for years, waiting for just the right opportunity*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:59 AM (kQs4Y)
Let's hope he has a prolonged refractory period.
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*Hogmartin releases pent up pun energy he's been holding for years, waiting for just the right opportunity*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:59 AM (kQs4Y)
Let's hope he has a prolonged refractory period.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (NWiLs)
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Re: your kids being taken away: My friend was babysitting her 5 yr. old granddaughter. The kid didn't like something Nonna said so she called 911. Two cops came to the house, took kid into a room separate from my friend, and interrogated the child.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (S44lC)
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I hated Uncle Tom's Cabin. I thought it was
horribly written in an overly melodramatic style and could barely make
it through one chapter before I just stopped reading.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (y7DUB)
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Well, that was an era when James Fenimore Cooper was regarded as a brilliant author. Go figure.
horribly written in an overly melodramatic style and could barely make
it through one chapter before I just stopped reading.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (y7DUB)
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Well, that was an era when James Fenimore Cooper was regarded as a brilliant author. Go figure.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (cfSRQ)
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Who Dis? Tony Curtis and a one legged shoeless blonde waif.......intimacy ensues on the second page.............
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (5IHGB)
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110 and Zephrys with his swaete breath...
I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer to see if they can guess what language each is.
Guessing Chaucer is English is easy.
Beowulf is impenetrable.
I think on first look, guessing 'Norse' would be an honest effort.
I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer to see if they can guess what language each is.
Guessing Chaucer is English is easy.
Beowulf is impenetrable.
I think on first look, guessing 'Norse' would be an honest effort.
Posted by: retropox at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (i8uro)
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"the various words for mother are similar related"
Ma ma is a natural first thing for an infant to say.
Ma ma is a natural first thing for an infant to say.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 10:01 AM (1UZdv)
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127 Re: your kids being taken away: My friend was babysitting her 5 yr. old granddaughter. The kid didn't like something Nonna said so she called 911. Two cops came to the house, took kid into a room separate from my friend, and interrogated the child.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (S44lC)
Holy shit. I hope the parents at a minimum read that kid the riot act.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (S44lC)
Holy shit. I hope the parents at a minimum read that kid the riot act.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:01 AM (NWiLs)
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I will be receiving "Monster Hunter: Guardian" in time for my trip to MN.
Looking forward to reading it while I fly the unfriendly skies.
Unfortunately, hahahahaha, I'll probably have to find a bookstore in MN and purchase a book for the return trip.
Looking forward to reading it while I fly the unfriendly skies.
Unfortunately, hahahahaha, I'll probably have to find a bookstore in MN and purchase a book for the return trip.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 10:01 AM (WEBkv)
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Visited the place and with a little reno it could be liveable.....................
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 09:58 AM
This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 09:58 AM
This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: Sparks, NV at September 15, 2019 10:01 AM (guWuK)
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116 Eris, I had to stop midway through The Grave 's a Fine and Private Place - I was feeling sad, I think. Should I just skip ahead to Golden Tresses?
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (+72t1)
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If you work through it, like the characters have to, there are little bits of hope. One of the pleasures of the series is seeing the characters thaw from their grief and become nicer to each other. Even Dogger is learning to keep the Black Dog at bay.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (+72t1)
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If you work through it, like the characters have to, there are little bits of hope. One of the pleasures of the series is seeing the characters thaw from their grief and become nicer to each other. Even Dogger is learning to keep the Black Dog at bay.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)
136
Harry Hole?
Posted by: Philemon at September 15, 2019 10:02 AM (lj2VW)
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Good morning, Hordelings, and Thank You OM for another amazing Book Thread.
Also:
The 6th (!) Annual Southwest Ohio MoMe is fast approaching, and we'd really like to nail down the head count.
It's Saturday evening, October 12, please email for details:
swohmome @ mail dot com
Something new this year: meeting at a local range first to put some holes in paper.
And we're also hosting two *very* special guests - you do NOT want to miss this.
Also:
The 6th (!) Annual Southwest Ohio MoMe is fast approaching, and we'd really like to nail down the head count.
It's Saturday evening, October 12, please email for details:
swohmome @ mail dot com
Something new this year: meeting at a local range first to put some holes in paper.
And we're also hosting two *very* special guests - you do NOT want to miss this.
Posted by: ibguy at September 15, 2019 10:02 AM (EHVbt)
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Is that the Latin term describing "plaque psoriasis" (sp?)?
Posted by: Grannymimi
*****
No. Ichthyosis is a different condition. Psoriasis is more of an inflammatory disease with autoimmune causation.
The word 'plaque' is a specific descriptive term, related to 'patch'.
A patch is a flat area of skin involvement while a plaque is raised above skin level to some degree.
Just like a macule is a flat spot and a papule is a raised spot.
Posted by: Grannymimi
*****
No. Ichthyosis is a different condition. Psoriasis is more of an inflammatory disease with autoimmune causation.
The word 'plaque' is a specific descriptive term, related to 'patch'.
A patch is a flat area of skin involvement while a plaque is raised above skin level to some degree.
Just like a macule is a flat spot and a papule is a raised spot.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:03 AM (m45I2)
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We used to joke that dermatology boiled down to three rules:
1. If it's dry, wet it
2. If it's wet, dry it
3. If it persists, add sterolids.
1. If it's dry, wet it
2. If it's wet, dry it
3. If it persists, add sterolids.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:03 AM (m45I2)
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136 Harry Hole?
Posted by: Philemon at September 15, 2019 10:02 AM (lj2VW)
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Just the punchline for a puerile joke?
Posted by: Philemon at September 15, 2019 10:02 AM (lj2VW)
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Just the punchline for a puerile joke?
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 10:04 AM (WEBkv)
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This was laid out in great detail by J.K. Rowling in the book "Herr Pottery and the Half-Blood Prints".
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (m45I2)
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Mark Steyn's Harry Potter parody books were pretty funny. "Billy Clinter and the Gusset of Fire." The plot summaries were a hoot as well.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 09:56 AM (m45I2)
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Mark Steyn's Harry Potter parody books were pretty funny. "Billy Clinter and the Gusset of Fire." The plot summaries were a hoot as well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:04 AM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:04 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:04 AM (m45I2)
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 10:04 AM (iB1oa)
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This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: Sparks, NV at September 15, 2019 10:01 AM (guWuK)
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Bulldozing from city line to city line is hardly a "little demo."
Posted by: Sparks, NV at September 15, 2019 10:01 AM (guWuK)
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Bulldozing from city line to city line is hardly a "little demo."
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 10:05 AM (WEBkv)
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"In other words, Nazis had written the Hearst vessel leads."
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*Hogmartin releases pent up pun energy he's been holding for years, waiting for just the right opportunity*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:59 AM
If art is defined by the emotional response it evokes, judging by the responses, this is approaching Yoko-level artistry
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*Hogmartin releases pent up pun energy he's been holding for years, waiting for just the right opportunity*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:59 AM
If art is defined by the emotional response it evokes, judging by the responses, this is approaching Yoko-level artistry
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 15, 2019 10:05 AM (guWuK)
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Right, Recht (rechts), droit, derecha.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Probably because "rights" are those you are allowed to defend against even the king with your sword (right) arm.
I just made that up, but it makes sense if you think about how words and language are created, and especially how they connext to simple, obvious visuals.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Probably because "rights" are those you are allowed to defend against even the king with your sword (right) arm.
I just made that up, but it makes sense if you think about how words and language are created, and especially how they connext to simple, obvious visuals.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 15, 2019 10:05 AM (ePjOB)
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1. If it's dry, wet it
2. If it's wet, dry it
3. If it persists, add sterolids.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:03 AM (m45I2)
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Hmm, sounds like 90% of medicine, to me.
2. If it's wet, dry it
3. If it persists, add sterolids.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:03 AM (m45I2)
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Hmm, sounds like 90% of medicine, to me.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 10:06 AM (WEBkv)
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Beowulf is impenetrable.
I think on first look, guessing 'Norse' would be an honest effort.
It is, that's the point. Proto-English, proto-German, and proto-Norse were all swimming in the same linguistic sea. Modern Icelandic still looks like that.
I point out the Ð and Þ and ð and þ, and splain how the Ye in the gravestone is just "the", as we were losing the thorn character and hadn't decided yet what to do with the Y.
I think on first look, guessing 'Norse' would be an honest effort.
It is, that's the point. Proto-English, proto-German, and proto-Norse were all swimming in the same linguistic sea. Modern Icelandic still looks like that.
I point out the Ð and Þ and ð and þ, and splain how the Ye in the gravestone is just "the", as we were losing the thorn character and hadn't decided yet what to do with the Y.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 10:06 AM (FNXDu)
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I tried one of Ilona Andrews Innkeeper series. Fun sorta fantascifi so I am goung to go through the series.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 10:07 AM (+72t1)
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Good morning moron readers AND writers! It's especially timely to repeat my new favorite saying: Books Make Great Gifts
Posted by: Zeera. Moron Author working on book 2 at September 15, 2019 10:07 AM (zUdXR)
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I got through the battle of Marathon in Herodotus, which is kind of a big fucking deal for western civilization; I read a book at some point in the past before I started recording things in Goodreads (although if I knew how to search this weird software I'd bet I talked about it on an old book thread) about just the battle which dealt with things like interlocking shields. Anyway the old historian did a good job of describing how concentrating power on the wings worked well for sending the Persians packing. Also he narrates things well when he's kind of on his home turf.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:07 AM (y7DUB)
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We used to joke that dermatology boiled down to three rules:
1. If it's dry, wet it
2. If it's wet, dry it
3. If it persists, add sterolids.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:03 AM (m45I2)
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Will Cuppy observed, "The Roman dermatologists had a funny saying about their patients: 'They never die and they never get well - it's perfect!'"
1. If it's dry, wet it
2. If it's wet, dry it
3. If it persists, add sterolids.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:03 AM (m45I2)
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Will Cuppy observed, "The Roman dermatologists had a funny saying about their patients: 'They never die and they never get well - it's perfect!'"
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 10:07 AM (iB1oa)
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Guten morgen meine fapperschoen!
That library looks rather dark and stuffy. I can practically smell the mildew and aging upholstery.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 09:51 AM (NWiLs)
A few bong hit and a coffee machine air fresheners will make it right.
That library looks rather dark and stuffy. I can practically smell the mildew and aging upholstery.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 09:51 AM (NWiLs)
A few bong hit and a coffee machine air fresheners will make it right.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 15, 2019 10:08 AM (9Om/r)
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Will Cuppy observed, "The Roman dermatologists had a funny saying about their patients: 'They never die and they never get well - it's perfect!'"
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 10:07 AM (iB1oa)
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Heh.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 10:07 AM (iB1oa)
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Heh.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 10:08 AM (WEBkv)
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Does your library system offer a way to download
books to your computer? They are on your computer or reader for a
specified time and then disappear. Digital books from the library might
save some money.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (bmdz3)
Our library has very few Kindle books and they are mostly women's books. They do have the dead tree version of those three books and I have read them. I would like to get the Kindle version but $10 each for the 2nd and 3rd is a little pricey for me. I am keeping track of them watching for a sale or the price to come down.
books to your computer? They are on your computer or reader for a
specified time and then disappear. Digital books from the library might
save some money.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 09:50 AM (bmdz3)
Our library has very few Kindle books and they are mostly women's books. They do have the dead tree version of those three books and I have read them. I would like to get the Kindle version but $10 each for the 2nd and 3rd is a little pricey for me. I am keeping track of them watching for a sale or the price to come down.
Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2019 10:08 AM (mpXpK)
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going back to my earlier comment - highly rec Sidequest for a Moron reader
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 10:08 AM (+72t1)
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132. I don't know what the parents did. I do know my friend is a native Italian speaker and probably said something the kid misunderstood. If that were my grandkid I'd tell her parents to get a babysitter going forward.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 10:08 AM (S44lC)
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158 132. I don't know what the parents did. I do know my friend is a native Italian speaker and probably said something the kid misunderstood. If that were my grandkid I'd tell her parents to get a babysitter going forward.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 10:08 AM (S44lC)
No kidding. Jeez.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 10:08 AM (S44lC)
No kidding. Jeez.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:09 AM (NWiLs)
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125 ... "If you enjoy Cadfael, you might also enjoy the medieval historical fiction she wrote under her real name, Edith Pargeter. Titles include "A Bloody Field by Shrewsbury", the Brothers of Gwyedd quartet, and "The Heaven Tree" series."
A hardcover edition of the three books is available on Amazon for 41 dollars. Yeah, screw that. But decent used editions are around for about six bucks and free shipping. My copy is on the to-be-read pile as we speak.
A hardcover edition of the three books is available on Amazon for 41 dollars. Yeah, screw that. But decent used editions are around for about six bucks and free shipping. My copy is on the to-be-read pile as we speak.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:09 AM (bmdz3)
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Just got the e-book version of "Nine Princes in Amber" by Roger Zelazny and it's as good as I remember.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at September 15, 2019 10:10 AM (T09ml)
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Beowulf is impenetrable.
I think on first look, guessing 'Norse' would be an honest effort.
Posted by: retropox at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (i8uro)
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For a more accessible version of Beowulf, allow me to suggest Battle Office Wolf, by yours truly.
Unlike other adaptations, this one is scrupulously true to the source material, though I do truncate the story somewhat by focusing the tale on Heorot.
I wrote it following the Seamus Haney verse translation (annotated edition) so there are references to Geats, Franks, etc. I think putting the story in a sci-fi/horror setting captures the original spirit of the tale and allows modern readers to better relate to the sense of fear and isolation the characters felt.
I think on first look, guessing 'Norse' would be an honest effort.
Posted by: retropox at September 15, 2019 10:00 AM (i8uro)
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For a more accessible version of Beowulf, allow me to suggest Battle Office Wolf, by yours truly.
Unlike other adaptations, this one is scrupulously true to the source material, though I do truncate the story somewhat by focusing the tale on Heorot.
I wrote it following the Seamus Haney verse translation (annotated edition) so there are references to Geats, Franks, etc. I think putting the story in a sci-fi/horror setting captures the original spirit of the tale and allows modern readers to better relate to the sense of fear and isolation the characters felt.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)
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Back from the Giddings Word Wrangler book festival - still suffering the aftermath of a round of the flu, but I had a great time there! (In spite of coughing like I was about to hack up a lung...)
I had Max Kossack's "Simple Grifts" on my kindle and finished it - and yes, it is pretty funny, especially the evisceration of a certain kind of modern academic.
For myself, I had some nice sales - gosh, I can never tell which of my books will sell, at these things! The big seller was my first-ever novel, "To Truckee's Trail" - but also three volumes of the Luna City Chronicles, which were bought by a woman who had just moved to Giddings from Florida. (We had a quiet giggle together over how being from Florida and originally California, we both had certain stereotypes to overcome...)
I had a table next to Western writer named Roy Clinton, whose pitch for his books sounded so interesting that I finished up buying some of them for my Kindle. And so goes another book festival - I cannot wait until next years'. The whole town supports the Word Wrangler, even to the point of it being a school field trip for the elementary and middle school classes.
I had Max Kossack's "Simple Grifts" on my kindle and finished it - and yes, it is pretty funny, especially the evisceration of a certain kind of modern academic.
For myself, I had some nice sales - gosh, I can never tell which of my books will sell, at these things! The big seller was my first-ever novel, "To Truckee's Trail" - but also three volumes of the Luna City Chronicles, which were bought by a woman who had just moved to Giddings from Florida. (We had a quiet giggle together over how being from Florida and originally California, we both had certain stereotypes to overcome...)
I had a table next to Western writer named Roy Clinton, whose pitch for his books sounded so interesting that I finished up buying some of them for my Kindle. And so goes another book festival - I cannot wait until next years'. The whole town supports the Word Wrangler, even to the point of it being a school field trip for the elementary and middle school classes.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 15, 2019 10:11 AM (xnmPy)
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"I point out the Ð and Þ and ð and þ, and splain how the Ye in the gravestone is just "the", as we were losing the thorn character and hadn't decided yet what to do with the Y."
Typesetter: "Hey Boss! This "Ye Olde Typeset" from Germany doesn't have a thorn".
Caxton: (yells from the shitter behind the curtain) "Jesus. Just use the 'y'. Do I have to figure everything out around here?? "
Typesetter: "Hey Boss! This "Ye Olde Typeset" from Germany doesn't have a thorn".
Caxton: (yells from the shitter behind the curtain) "Jesus. Just use the 'y'. Do I have to figure everything out around here?? "
Posted by: retropox at September 15, 2019 10:12 AM (i8uro)
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NYT going after Kavanaugh with new sexual abuse allegations, now amplified by other media and D candidates, with calls for impeachment.
A male Yale classmate, you see, says that Brett pressed his dick into a woman's hand at a drunken party, but the FBI didn't credit his claim.
A male Yale classmate, you see, says that Brett pressed his dick into a woman's hand at a drunken party, but the FBI didn't credit his claim.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 10:13 AM (1UZdv)
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Finishing "The Day of Battle." by Rick Atkinson, about Sicily, Anzio, etc. Second book of a trilogy.
Posted by: mnw at September 15, 2019 10:13 AM (Cssks)
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I should get back to writing.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2019 10:13 AM (5fpdK)
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I'm trying to make a dent in Books for Living, by Will Schwalbe. The author is a self-confessed bookophile who believes even the worst tomes have something to offer. From his state of near-constant reading, Schwalbe recounts the lessons he has learned from everything he has read: the good, the bad and the ugly.
One of the first, that I can surely relate to while spending a few weeks away from home giving respite care to my Mom, who has Alheimer's, is "Patience, like most things, is a skill that takes practice."
Books for Living looks promising, so give it a go if you can find it in your library. I shall soldier on, trying to finish it!
One of the first, that I can surely relate to while spending a few weeks away from home giving respite care to my Mom, who has Alheimer's, is "Patience, like most things, is a skill that takes practice."
Books for Living looks promising, so give it a go if you can find it in your library. I shall soldier on, trying to finish it!
Posted by: SandyCheeks at September 15, 2019 10:14 AM (T2vnY)
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I am currently reading Babe The Legend comes to Life by Robert W. Creamer and its pretty good.
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM (arJlL)
One of those characters, where I think I have absorbed all the information possible, but realize, I probably haven't.
I would highly recommend (and have done so), any baseball fan pick up either version of Bill James' Historical Baseball Abstract. It's written with snippets of information, some long essays, and just enough statistics so you don't forget who wrote it. Great and interesting stuff.
So... it was PROBABLY Bill James who provided the story about Babe coming into town on the train (as they did), and he would be swamped by adoring fans. He was mostly accommodating to the fans.. mostly. The story goes, a comely young lass was standing there, giving him the eye. She was also holding a baby near her breast, and the Babe said to her, something to the effect of "Lady, if you keep looking at me like that, I'll put another one on the other tit."
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM (arJlL)
One of those characters, where I think I have absorbed all the information possible, but realize, I probably haven't.
I would highly recommend (and have done so), any baseball fan pick up either version of Bill James' Historical Baseball Abstract. It's written with snippets of information, some long essays, and just enough statistics so you don't forget who wrote it. Great and interesting stuff.
So... it was PROBABLY Bill James who provided the story about Babe coming into town on the train (as they did), and he would be swamped by adoring fans. He was mostly accommodating to the fans.. mostly. The story goes, a comely young lass was standing there, giving him the eye. She was also holding a baby near her breast, and the Babe said to her, something to the effect of "Lady, if you keep looking at me like that, I'll put another one on the other tit."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:14 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
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my MIL was babysitting KTY as a baby, and hubby, in a frenzy of new dad vigilance, had programmed 911 as the first speed dial on the land line.
As you might guess, MIL accidentally speed dialed 911
cops showed up, had a nice chat and looked around, and left
911 came off the speed dial after that
As you might guess, MIL accidentally speed dialed 911
cops showed up, had a nice chat and looked around, and left
911 came off the speed dial after that
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 10:14 AM (+72t1)
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Even the DEMs are too afraid to fire up the Kavanaugh defamation machine again, because McCaskill, Donnelly, Heitkamp, Nelson.
Posted by: mnw at September 15, 2019 10:15 AM (Cssks)
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'They never die and they never get well - it's perfect!'"
Most of our medical spending is on chronic illness. Diabetes alone will break the bank on current trajectory.
Most of our medical spending is on chronic illness. Diabetes alone will break the bank on current trajectory.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 10:16 AM (1UZdv)
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Hmm, sounds like 90% of medicine, to me.
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Someone smarter aand funnier than me (Voltaire) said "The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease"
I rate this as true
Hmm, sounds like 90% of medicine, to me.
*******
Someone smarter aand funnier than me (Voltaire) said "The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease"
I rate this as true
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (m45I2)
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Whats a Nazi Urn?
more than a greek.! PRICELESS.
more than a greek.! PRICELESS.
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (5IHGB)
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Actually Klibaucher ABC has brought up Kavanaugh. They still cling bitterly to that.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (5fpdK)
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I will be headed to Mass soon here's what I am reading and if you liked THE BOYS, STEELHEART the RECKONERS series is a good book. Their are no good SuperHeroes they are all out for themselves and they have destroyed the country because no Government can stop them. The main Character saw STEELHEART murder his father and the boy will stop at nothing to have his revenge and kill STEELHEART, Unlike THE BOYS there is no anti religious elements in it.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (dKiJG)
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and Zephrys with his swaete breath...
I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer to see if they can guess what language each is.
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Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (FNXDu)
That reminds me, I just finished re-reading Wheels of If by L. Sprague de Camp. A collection of short stories published in 1948 (but the stories date from 1939-ish) that are generally a lot of fun and thought-provoking. The short story (really more a novella) posits the idea of alternate time-lines coexisting simultaneously and the protagonist is an ambitious prosecuting attorney in 1940s New York that is swapped for his doppleganger, a bishop of the Celtic Christian Church. The alternate time line has the Scandinavians keeping England and de Camp uses the American Indians ("skrellings") as stand-ins for blacks in order to make commentary critical of racial prejudice. Lots of fun and the protagonist decides to stay where he is and says that his doppleganger will be fine, since that guy will be just as talented. Rating = 5.0/5.
I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer to see if they can guess what language each is.
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Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (FNXDu)
That reminds me, I just finished re-reading Wheels of If by L. Sprague de Camp. A collection of short stories published in 1948 (but the stories date from 1939-ish) that are generally a lot of fun and thought-provoking. The short story (really more a novella) posits the idea of alternate time-lines coexisting simultaneously and the protagonist is an ambitious prosecuting attorney in 1940s New York that is swapped for his doppleganger, a bishop of the Celtic Christian Church. The alternate time line has the Scandinavians keeping England and de Camp uses the American Indians ("skrellings") as stand-ins for blacks in order to make commentary critical of racial prejudice. Lots of fun and the protagonist decides to stay where he is and says that his doppleganger will be fine, since that guy will be just as talented. Rating = 5.0/5.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 15, 2019 10:19 AM (5Yee7)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:19 AM (+y/Ru)
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Someone smarter aand funnier than me (Voltaire) said "The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease"
I rate this as true
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (m45I2)
Like cancer, Type I diabetes and autoimmune disorders. I suppose nature alone would take care of the first two through death. Voila, it's over!
I rate this as true
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (m45I2)
Like cancer, Type I diabetes and autoimmune disorders. I suppose nature alone would take care of the first two through death. Voila, it's over!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:19 AM (NWiLs)
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Oh damn! Now you guys have done it. I have a perfectly good edition of the Canterbury Tales on the shelf. Middle English on one page and modern on the facing page. This helps since I can only get about 70 percent of the ME these days so long after college. Now I have to start the re-reading which I know I'll enjoy. It's such an interruption.
The reading would go faster but I like to take breaks and sound out the ME just because it's fun to do so.
The reading would go faster but I like to take breaks and sound out the ME just because it's fun to do so.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:19 AM (bmdz3)
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175 Whats a Nazi Urn?
more than a greek.! PRICELESS.
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (5IHGB)
More than Jew and me, for sure.
more than a greek.! PRICELESS.
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (5IHGB)
More than Jew and me, for sure.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:20 AM (NWiLs)
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Should I take off the shelf to read again The Decameron?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2019 10:20 AM (5fpdK)
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Did we ever find out if Krak still has his kidneys?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 10:21 AM (kQs4Y)
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Stephanopolous asked Klobucher about Kavanugh this morning and she took the bait.
Expect Kamala and Booker and others to do the same. It'll morph into the more generic claim that Brett lied under oath.
Expect Kamala and Booker and others to do the same. It'll morph into the more generic claim that Brett lied under oath.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 10:21 AM (1UZdv)
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Cool, I got a hat tip.
Posted by: Rusty Nail, camping at September 15, 2019 10:21 AM (sXovo)
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Middle English on one page and modern on the facing page.
I have the Heaney Beowulf in that format. I sort of promised myself I'd teach myself Old English as I went along.
Yeah. Not so much.
I have the Heaney Beowulf in that format. I sort of promised myself I'd teach myself Old English as I went along.
Yeah. Not so much.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 10:22 AM (FNXDu)
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Like cancer, Type I diabetes and autoimmune disorders. I suppose nature alone would take care of the first two through death. Voila, it's over!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:19 AM (NWiLs)
cancer and autoimmune diseases sometimes do go into remission
T1 is genetic though, isn't it?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:19 AM (NWiLs)
cancer and autoimmune diseases sometimes do go into remission
T1 is genetic though, isn't it?
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 10:22 AM (+72t1)
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but having the child protection services show up at my door and take my kids away for some bogus reason. I felt that all it would take would be one anonymous phone call from some malefactor claiming that OregonMuse abused his children and then it would be my responsibility to prove to CPS that I do NOT abuse my children and how can I prove a negative?
This is EXACTLY how it works. CPS takes your kids. You are not informed why. Your kids' school is enlisted in the enforcement.
It is absolutely an American Stasi. You may not face your accuser. You are required to prove your innocence. You may not have legal representation (you can have an attorney advise, but if you have a hearing or adjudication, they cannot be present.)
The administrative procedure carries the force of law. Without a judge or jury of your peers, you can be placed on a lifetime sex offender list.
It is absolutely terrifying.
People who have the means and support systems can fight very expensive battles and possibly win. I am quite sure that people without the money, the understanding of the legal system, an understanding of the language, are losing their children to the system because they sign something that is put in front of them.
This is EXACTLY how it works. CPS takes your kids. You are not informed why. Your kids' school is enlisted in the enforcement.
It is absolutely an American Stasi. You may not face your accuser. You are required to prove your innocence. You may not have legal representation (you can have an attorney advise, but if you have a hearing or adjudication, they cannot be present.)
The administrative procedure carries the force of law. Without a judge or jury of your peers, you can be placed on a lifetime sex offender list.
It is absolutely terrifying.
People who have the means and support systems can fight very expensive battles and possibly win. I am quite sure that people without the money, the understanding of the legal system, an understanding of the language, are losing their children to the system because they sign something that is put in front of them.
Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2019 10:22 AM (ZfRYq)
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Ok, for those of us in the cheap seats, what the hell is the "Hearst vessel leads" pun? I haven't a clue what it's supposed to mean.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:23 AM (cY3LT)
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How does Boston Cream Pie qualify as a Pie?
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2019 10:23 AM (QZCjk)
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Klobacher also promised to reinvent the Lautenberg Amendment in regards to domestic abuse and gun ownership.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2019 10:23 AM (5fpdK)
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The scenario in Closer than you Think is terrifying. My guess for the real reason in the book is that normal boys are in short supply (can't adopt one from China)and that some creepy dried up pussyhead wants one long after those days were done. Any number of abductions have been performed by that demographic.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:24 AM (U7k5w)
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191 How does Boston Cream Pie qualify as a Pie?
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2019 10:23 AM (QZCjk)
Corruption of the English language by New England commiefags.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2019 10:23 AM (QZCjk)
Corruption of the English language by New England commiefags.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:24 AM (NWiLs)
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Oh damn! Now you guys have done it. I have a perfectly good edition of the Canterbury Tales on the shelf. Middle English on one page and modern on the facing page.
Whan that Aprille with the shoares soote.
That has stuck with me since the 9th grade.
Whan that Aprille with the shoares soote.
That has stuck with me since the 9th grade.
Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2019 10:24 AM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 10:25 AM (kQs4Y)
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165 NYT going after Kavanaugh with new sexual abuse allegations, now amplified by other media and D candidates, with calls for impeachment.
A male Yale classmate, you see, says that Brett pressed his dick into a woman's hand at a drunken party, but the FBI didn't credit his claim.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 10:13 AM (1UZdv)
This is a retelling of the ramirez story. Seven diff FBI agents interviewed over a dozen people. Found nothing.
A male Yale classmate, you see, says that Brett pressed his dick into a woman's hand at a drunken party, but the FBI didn't credit his claim.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 10:13 AM (1UZdv)
This is a retelling of the ramirez story. Seven diff FBI agents interviewed over a dozen people. Found nothing.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 10:25 AM (JFO2v)
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And Amy is a moderate.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 10:26 AM (1UZdv)
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Ok, for those of us in the cheap seats, what the hell is the "Hearst vessel leads" pun? I haven't a clue what it's supposed to mean.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:23 AM (cY3LT)
Horst Wessel was the patron saint of the NSPAP (Nazi). Got himself killed in the struggle to get old Adolf to the top.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:23 AM (cY3LT)
Horst Wessel was the patron saint of the NSPAP (Nazi). Got himself killed in the struggle to get old Adolf to the top.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 15, 2019 10:26 AM (5Yee7)
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If only Horst Wessel told the truth...
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:26 AM (NWiLs)
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There used to be abductions of boys in Taiwan, to be taken back to the Mainland.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 10:26 AM (kQs4Y)
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I think it was recommended here but I found THE POPPY WAR a very interesting take on fantasy and magic by using martial arts. It plays out like World War II but with swords and gunpowder and the Gods. I really can't stand the main Character she whines all the time, everyone around her is interesting but her. At least she isn't a Ray of Star Wars type character, I would have asked for a refund from audible.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 15, 2019 10:26 AM (dKiJG)
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The interconnectedness of words could almost be
evidence of a single language which everyone spoke in ancient times
until they took to arguing over a construction project. I understand
that the various words for mother are similar related.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:39 AM (+y/Ru)
You want to look into Grimm's law, and maybe listen to the first twenty or so episodes of the historyofenglishpodcast.com
What you say is true of Indo-European and parts of Uralic languages, but other languages have other roots
evidence of a single language which everyone spoke in ancient times
until they took to arguing over a construction project. I understand
that the various words for mother are similar related.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:39 AM (+y/Ru)
You want to look into Grimm's law, and maybe listen to the first twenty or so episodes of the historyofenglishpodcast.com
What you say is true of Indo-European and parts of Uralic languages, but other languages have other roots
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 10:27 AM (xG/b0)
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This is EXACTLY how it works. CPS takes your kids. You are not informed why. Your kids' school is enlisted in the enforcement.
Health care providers are likewise deputized to run roughshod over the rights of parents based on not particularly educated guesses on what might have happened.
Health care providers are likewise deputized to run roughshod over the rights of parents based on not particularly educated guesses on what might have happened.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:29 AM (y7DUB)
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170 Spartacus has T Bone. Brain Damage Biden has Corn Pop.
https://bit.ly/2lNp8i5
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
"I was smart then."
OMG I was LMAO!
https://bit.ly/2lNp8i5
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
"I was smart then."
OMG I was LMAO!
Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2019 10:29 AM (cF8AT)
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Burt, it's a pun on "Horst Wessel Lied", the de facto anthem of the Nasty Party.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 10:25 AM (kQs4Y)
I learned something new today. Thank you!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 10:25 AM (kQs4Y)
I learned something new today. Thank you!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:29 AM (cY3LT)
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Keep in mind Voltaire wrote at a time when there were very few actual effective treatments for medical conditions.
1. Some conditions can be cured.
2. Slome conditions can be palliated or stabilized.
3. Some conditions can be 'managed'
4. Many conditions don't need to be cured, palliated or managed, as they are self-limited and not debilitating.
5. Some conditions are lethal
The doctor's principle job is to help the patient understand these differences.
Many doctors have lost sight of this.
1. Some conditions can be cured.
2. Slome conditions can be palliated or stabilized.
3. Some conditions can be 'managed'
4. Many conditions don't need to be cured, palliated or managed, as they are self-limited and not debilitating.
5. Some conditions are lethal
The doctor's principle job is to help the patient understand these differences.
Many doctors have lost sight of this.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:30 AM (m45I2)
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Someone smarter aand funnier than me (Voltaire) said "The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease"
I rate this as true
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (m45I2)
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As someone who suffers from multiple health problems, I also rate this as "true."
Someone smarter aand funnier than me (Voltaire) said "The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease"
I rate this as true
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:17 AM (m45I2)
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As someone who suffers from multiple health problems, I also rate this as "true."
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 10:30 AM (WEBkv)
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BBC: There Are Over 100 Genders...
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Holy cow! Just yesterday there were only 57!
Incidentally, when I was a kid, it was a cliche that crazy people thought that they were Napoleon. Today such a guy would be told, "You need to get some cannon, a little cavalry, and a bunch of infantry and invade Russia! It'll be all good. And if anyone tells you that are not really Napoleon, they're the ones who are crazy!"
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Holy cow! Just yesterday there were only 57!
Incidentally, when I was a kid, it was a cliche that crazy people thought that they were Napoleon. Today such a guy would be told, "You need to get some cannon, a little cavalry, and a bunch of infantry and invade Russia! It'll be all good. And if anyone tells you that are not really Napoleon, they're the ones who are crazy!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:30 AM (+y/Ru)
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Oh, I have a little Hearst story. A key theme in almost all stories about me is that I figure out the interesting bits too late.
So I had decided to review Hunter Thompson's "Generation of Swine" for the school newspaper. This was dumb on its face, because this was business school and no one cared, but I wanted to see if I could use the credibility of the institution to get an interview with HST hisself.
I called around and couldn't find an agent but I was told that he was respresented by the San Francisco Chronicle. Finally, I got a call back. "This is Bill Hurst, no you can't get an interview".
I shrugged it off, then it hit me. That was William Hearst.
So I had decided to review Hunter Thompson's "Generation of Swine" for the school newspaper. This was dumb on its face, because this was business school and no one cared, but I wanted to see if I could use the credibility of the institution to get an interview with HST hisself.
I called around and couldn't find an agent but I was told that he was respresented by the San Francisco Chronicle. Finally, I got a call back. "This is Bill Hurst, no you can't get an interview".
I shrugged it off, then it hit me. That was William Hearst.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 10:31 AM (FNXDu)
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205 170 Spartacus has T Bone. Brain Damage Biden has Corn Pop.
https://bit.ly/2lNp8i5
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
"I was smart then."
OMG I was LMAO!
Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2019 10:29 AM (cF8AT)
WTF Corn Pop Best sidekick name eva!
https://bit.ly/2lNp8i5
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
"I was smart then."
OMG I was LMAO!
Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2019 10:29 AM (cF8AT)
WTF Corn Pop Best sidekick name eva!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 10:32 AM (JFO2v)
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What would be fun is to give Biden a handful of Corn Nuts and see what happens.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2019 10:32 AM (QZCjk)
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I have often thought that if I was sent to prison, a copy of the Canterbury Tales would be sufficient to pass the time.
I'm sure I could memorize all of it.
And copies of "Mathematics for the Millions" and "Calculus for the Practical Man" to work every example.
I could life without parole with those three and not be bored.
Ya. It's a strange thought. Sue me.
I'm sure I could memorize all of it.
And copies of "Mathematics for the Millions" and "Calculus for the Practical Man" to work every example.
I could life without parole with those three and not be bored.
Ya. It's a strange thought. Sue me.
Posted by: retropox at September 15, 2019 10:32 AM (i8uro)
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This is EXACTLY how it works. CPS takes your kids. You are not informed why. Your kids' school is enlisted in the enforcement.
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Health care providers are likewise deputized to run roughshod over the rights of parents based on not particularly educated guesses on what might have happened.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:29 AM (y7DUB)
I'm certain that's true, but I've seen way too much of the other end of it, where kids are in horrible situations, nobody is doing anything to find out the necessary information that can LEGALLY have them removed, and nobody seems to care.
I've called Protective Services myself, on more than a few occasions, and seen essentially nothing done about credible reports of abuse.
Which is not surprising, in my opinion. The indifference comes in on all sides. Sometimes it's inertia, sometimes it's over-zealousness.
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Health care providers are likewise deputized to run roughshod over the rights of parents based on not particularly educated guesses on what might have happened.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:29 AM (y7DUB)
I'm certain that's true, but I've seen way too much of the other end of it, where kids are in horrible situations, nobody is doing anything to find out the necessary information that can LEGALLY have them removed, and nobody seems to care.
I've called Protective Services myself, on more than a few occasions, and seen essentially nothing done about credible reports of abuse.
Which is not surprising, in my opinion. The indifference comes in on all sides. Sometimes it's inertia, sometimes it's over-zealousness.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (JFO2v)
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209 BBC: There Are Over 100 Genders...
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Holy cow! Just yesterday there were only 57!
Incidentally, when I was a kid, it was a cliche that crazy people thought that they were Napoleon. Today such a guy would be told, "You need to get some cannon, a little cavalry, and a bunch of infantry and invade Russia! It'll be all good. And if anyone tells you that are not really Napoleon, they're the ones who are crazy!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:30 AM (+y/Ru)
Imagine if depression was approached the same way as gender dysphoria. "Oh absolutely, everything is utterly hopeless, will always be hopeless, and there is no point in going on living. Here's a gun."
Or paranoid schizophrenia. "Yes, of course the government is reading your thoughts through telepathy rays beamed through your ceiling fan. It absolutely real. And the fillings in your teeth are actually signal boosters for those rays. Here's some aluminum foil and a pair of pliers."
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Holy cow! Just yesterday there were only 57!
Incidentally, when I was a kid, it was a cliche that crazy people thought that they were Napoleon. Today such a guy would be told, "You need to get some cannon, a little cavalry, and a bunch of infantry and invade Russia! It'll be all good. And if anyone tells you that are not really Napoleon, they're the ones who are crazy!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 10:30 AM (+y/Ru)
Imagine if depression was approached the same way as gender dysphoria. "Oh absolutely, everything is utterly hopeless, will always be hopeless, and there is no point in going on living. Here's a gun."
Or paranoid schizophrenia. "Yes, of course the government is reading your thoughts through telepathy rays beamed through your ceiling fan. It absolutely real. And the fillings in your teeth are actually signal boosters for those rays. Here's some aluminum foil and a pair of pliers."
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:35 AM (NWiLs)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 09:40 AM (cfSRQ)
If you get tired of the politics of the Spanish Civil war, look into logistics. The Spanish arms industry was fascinating, and caused some very large headaches for both sides.
All the major manufacturing centers were in the Republican areas, and yet they had arms shortages. The Republican arsenals also had quality control issues on things like tempering.
If you get tired of the politics of the Spanish Civil war, look into logistics. The Spanish arms industry was fascinating, and caused some very large headaches for both sides.
All the major manufacturing centers were in the Republican areas, and yet they had arms shortages. The Republican arsenals also had quality control issues on things like tempering.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 10:35 AM (xG/b0)
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193 The scenario in Closer than you Think is terrifying. My guess for the real reason in the book is that normal boys are in short supply (can't adopt one from China)and that some creepy dried up pussyhead wants one long after those days were done. Any number of abductions have been performed by that demographic.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:24 AM (U7k5w)
Watch any videos of abductions in broad daylight and they are all from China, Gansters take kids and sell them, but because China is perfect and no crime happens there it's either not reported or just ignored. if people are willing to water down and fake vaccines and Baby formula for children you have a serious moral problems and it's the loss of God.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:24 AM (U7k5w)
Watch any videos of abductions in broad daylight and they are all from China, Gansters take kids and sell them, but because China is perfect and no crime happens there it's either not reported or just ignored. if people are willing to water down and fake vaccines and Baby formula for children you have a serious moral problems and it's the loss of God.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 15, 2019 10:36 AM (dKiJG)
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207 Keep in mind Voltaire wrote at a time when there were very few actual effective treatments for medical conditions.
1. Some conditions can be cured.
2. Slome conditions can be palliated or stabilized.
3. Some conditions can be 'managed'
4. Many conditions don't need to be cured, palliated or managed, as they are self-limited and not debilitating.
5. Some conditions are lethal
The doctor's principle job is to help the patient understand these differences.
Many doctors have lost sight of this.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:30 AM (m45I2)
A moft generous applickation of leeches...
1. Some conditions can be cured.
2. Slome conditions can be palliated or stabilized.
3. Some conditions can be 'managed'
4. Many conditions don't need to be cured, palliated or managed, as they are self-limited and not debilitating.
5. Some conditions are lethal
The doctor's principle job is to help the patient understand these differences.
Many doctors have lost sight of this.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 15, 2019 10:30 AM (m45I2)
A moft generous applickation of leeches...
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:37 AM (NWiLs)
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91 Saw a book by Mary Hemingway , title : How it Was, a memoir of her years with Ernest. They sure did get around.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (S44lC)
Worth the read? Hadley seems the wife in vogue these days, but I've always had a mild interest in those last years. She seems like a Jacqueline Picasso type who worked at keeping the legend going.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 09:45 AM (S44lC)
Worth the read? Hadley seems the wife in vogue these days, but I've always had a mild interest in those last years. She seems like a Jacqueline Picasso type who worked at keeping the legend going.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:38 AM (U7k5w)
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Insomniac... that is a brilliant analogy.
The dichotomy between "this delusion is real and cannot be questioned" and "those delusions can never be real" is telling.
The dichotomy between "this delusion is real and cannot be questioned" and "those delusions can never be real" is telling.
Posted by: retropox at September 15, 2019 10:38 AM (i8uro)
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I'm certain that's true, but I've seen way too much of the other end of it, where kids are in horrible situations, nobody is doing anything to find out the necessary information that can LEGALLY have them removed, and nobody seems to care.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
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Putting kids into state custody does not guarantee their situation will improve.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
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Putting kids into state custody does not guarantee their situation will improve.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 15, 2019 10:38 AM (EZebt)
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Imagine if depression was approached the same way as gender dysphoria. "Oh absolutely, everything is utterly hopeless, will always be hopeless, and there is no point in going on living. Here's a gun."
==
sounds like the Netherlands
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sounds like the Netherlands
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 10:39 AM (+72t1)
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Corn Pop on twitchy
https://tinyurl.com/y3k3h4xm
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (JFO2v)
Sweet merciful Cthulhu, please let Biden be the Democratic nominee. I will give anything to see Trump debate him.
https://tinyurl.com/y3k3h4xm
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (JFO2v)
Sweet merciful Cthulhu, please let Biden be the Democratic nominee. I will give anything to see Trump debate him.
Posted by: Josephistan at September 15, 2019 10:40 AM (Izzlo)
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Uncle Tom is a Christ-figure and an Evangelist. The Left hates him for not being an Atheist rabble-rouser type.
Posted by: JAS at September 15, 2019 10:40 AM (0LxiW)
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I'm certain that's true, but I've seen way too much of the other end of it, where kids are in horrible situations, nobody is doing anything to find out the necessary information that can LEGALLY have them removed, and nobody seems to care.
I've called Protective Services myself, on more than a few occasions, and seen essentially nothing done about credible reports of abuse.
Which is not surprising, in my opinion. The indifference comes in on all sides. Sometimes it's inertia, sometimes it's over-zealousness.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
That would presume that Child Protective Services exists to protect children.
Based on their record, this is clearly not the case.
They are the Stasi.
I've called Protective Services myself, on more than a few occasions, and seen essentially nothing done about credible reports of abuse.
Which is not surprising, in my opinion. The indifference comes in on all sides. Sometimes it's inertia, sometimes it's over-zealousness.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
That would presume that Child Protective Services exists to protect children.
Based on their record, this is clearly not the case.
They are the Stasi.
Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2019 10:40 AM (ZfRYq)
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it's the loss of God.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 15, 2019 10:36 AM (dKiJG)
Utter rejection, like many of our libs. If God does not exist, everything is permitted.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 15, 2019 10:36 AM (dKiJG)
Utter rejection, like many of our libs. If God does not exist, everything is permitted.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:40 AM (U7k5w)
228
The scenario in Closer than you Think is terrifying. My guess for the real reason in the book is that normal boys are in short supply (can't adopt one from China)and that some creepy dried up pussyhead wants one long after those days were done. Any number of abductions have been performed by that demographic.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:24 AM (U7k5w)
Watch any videos of abductions in broad daylight and they are all from China, Gansters take kids and sell them, but because China is perfect and no crime happens there it's either not reported or just ignored. if people are willing to water down and fake vaccines and Baby formula for children you have a serious moral problems and it's the loss of God.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 15, 2019 10:36 AM (dKiJG)
There is a lot of evidence that the abductions that occur, for the pleasure of those who like to have sex with kids, occurs mostly in poor places, where there are lots and lots of kids inside systems, of one sort or another. The abductors operate more or less in the open, they flash money around, and workers take it. Or they look the other way, because of the threat of what can happen if they don't.
So I doubt there are too many kids who are snatched from healthy and happy homes, but there are literally thousands snatched from places where a kid or two won't be missed.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:24 AM (U7k5w)
Watch any videos of abductions in broad daylight and they are all from China, Gansters take kids and sell them, but because China is perfect and no crime happens there it's either not reported or just ignored. if people are willing to water down and fake vaccines and Baby formula for children you have a serious moral problems and it's the loss of God.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 15, 2019 10:36 AM (dKiJG)
There is a lot of evidence that the abductions that occur, for the pleasure of those who like to have sex with kids, occurs mostly in poor places, where there are lots and lots of kids inside systems, of one sort or another. The abductors operate more or less in the open, they flash money around, and workers take it. Or they look the other way, because of the threat of what can happen if they don't.
So I doubt there are too many kids who are snatched from healthy and happy homes, but there are literally thousands snatched from places where a kid or two won't be missed.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:41 AM (cY3LT)
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If you enjoy Cadfael, you might also enjoy the medieval historical fiction she wrote under her real name, Edith Pargeter. Titles include "A Bloody Field by Shrewsbury", the Brothers of Gwyedd quartet, and "The Heaven Tree" series.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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I have hardbound copy of The Heaven Tree Trilogy which I bought and read more than 10 years ago. My top favorite historical fiction of all time. Bloody Field and Brothers quartet are on my Kindle. I've been wondering if Heaven Tree will ever be on Kindle. I prefer reading a tome on Kindle as it's easier to carry and bookmarking is convenient.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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I have hardbound copy of The Heaven Tree Trilogy which I bought and read more than 10 years ago. My top favorite historical fiction of all time. Bloody Field and Brothers quartet are on my Kindle. I've been wondering if Heaven Tree will ever be on Kindle. I prefer reading a tome on Kindle as it's easier to carry and bookmarking is convenient.
Posted by: Oggi at September 15, 2019 10:41 AM (Bk5Q+)
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Sweet merciful Cthulhu, please let Biden be the Democratic nominee. I will give anything to see Trump debate him.
Posted by: Josephistan at September 15, 2019 10:40 AM (Izzlo)
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My prediction: Biden starts debating Corn Pop about half an hour in.
Posted by: Josephistan at September 15, 2019 10:40 AM (Izzlo)
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My prediction: Biden starts debating Corn Pop about half an hour in.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 10:42 AM (kQs4Y)
231
Stowe was nuts to think that freed slaves would want to go back to Africa.
Posted by: JAS at September 15, 2019 10:42 AM (0LxiW)
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ChewBacca >>>>>>>>>> Klobacher...
"A Male Yale classmate,you see, says that Brett pressed his dick into a womans hand at a drunken party,but the FBI didn't credit his claim"
WTF .....
" A Cis gendered douchemate,you don't see,sez that Brett vigorously hammered his hard on into a woman's vagina at a sex orgy organised by Yale authorities to which the classmate was refused admission due to B>O and fuglyness...but the FBI!!! did not credit his claim(huh?) but did validate his parking."
OK now it's clear.
"A Male Yale classmate,you see, says that Brett pressed his dick into a womans hand at a drunken party,but the FBI didn't credit his claim"
WTF .....
" A Cis gendered douchemate,you don't see,sez that Brett vigorously hammered his hard on into a woman's vagina at a sex orgy organised by Yale authorities to which the classmate was refused admission due to B>O and fuglyness...but the FBI!!! did not credit his claim(huh?) but did validate his parking."
OK now it's clear.
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 10:42 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2019 10:42 AM (ZfRYq)
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It's good that the media loons and dem clown posse is going after Brett again.
Maybe this time he will learn who his enemies are and grow a pair. Instead of a "dissenting collar" he can wear his "Freisler hat" when handing down every decision against the left.
But Justices are supposed to be non-political, eh?
Maybe this time he will learn who his enemies are and grow a pair. Instead of a "dissenting collar" he can wear his "Freisler hat" when handing down every decision against the left.
But Justices are supposed to be non-political, eh?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2019 10:43 AM (Z+IKu)
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Maybe this time he will learn who his enemies are and grow a pair.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2019 10:43 AM (Z+IKu)
I don't know. Seem to be a lot of people in the our educated class who don't really understand or cannot come to grips with the concept of "enemy."
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2019 10:43 AM (Z+IKu)
I don't know. Seem to be a lot of people in the our educated class who don't really understand or cannot come to grips with the concept of "enemy."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 10:44 AM (H8QX8)
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Actually, given the scale of the rooms in the rest of the large house, it's relatively cozy. I much preferred the smaller "guest houses" on the estate.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:55 AM (iB1oa)
"They" arranged for us to tour Hearst's Castle when I did my AFROTC Field Training at Vandenberg AFB in 1973. Guess who drew Cadet Officer of the Day that day.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 09:55 AM (iB1oa)
"They" arranged for us to tour Hearst's Castle when I did my AFROTC Field Training at Vandenberg AFB in 1973. Guess who drew Cadet Officer of the Day that day.
Posted by: Fox2! at September 15, 2019 10:46 AM (MwFQu)
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Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
That would presume that Child Protective Services exists to protect children.
Based on their record, this is clearly not the case.
They are the Stasi.
Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2019 10:40 AM (ZfRYq)
Nah. It's quite often a bad situation all around, but generally, if a kid has been taken away from a parent, there's plenty of evidence as to why it was necessary.
People get worked up, because of false claims of abuse, and I get that, but for every false claim, there's probably dozens of real claims, and then dozens more real abuse/neglect situations that never see any involvement of the state, because nobody gives a damn.
That would presume that Child Protective Services exists to protect children.
Based on their record, this is clearly not the case.
They are the Stasi.
Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2019 10:40 AM (ZfRYq)
Nah. It's quite often a bad situation all around, but generally, if a kid has been taken away from a parent, there's plenty of evidence as to why it was necessary.
People get worked up, because of false claims of abuse, and I get that, but for every false claim, there's probably dozens of real claims, and then dozens more real abuse/neglect situations that never see any involvement of the state, because nobody gives a damn.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)
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I don't know. Seem to be a lot of people in the our educated class who don't really understand or cannot come to grips with the concept of "enemy."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 10:44 AM (H8QX
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 10:44 AM (H8QX
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:46 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 10:47 AM (NWiLs)
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If you get tired of the politics of the Spanish
Civil war, look into logistics. The Spanish arms industry was
fascinating, and caused some very large headaches for both sides.
All
the major manufacturing centers were in the Republican areas, and yet
they had arms shortages. The Republican arsenals also had quality
control issues on things like tempering.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 10:35 AM (xG/b0)
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I'm studying every aspect of it, but all too often politics trump actual facts.
Yes, logistics are crucial and it's fascinating to see how the Nationalists managed to win, considering:
The Republic held more territory
The Republic had more people
The Republic held all the arms, steel and clothing factories
The Republic had international recognition and
The Republic had the country's gold reserves
The conventional narrative is that Literally Hitler and Mussolini tipped the scale, but this ignores the massive Russian intervention as well as more than 30,000 "volunteers" in the International Brigades. The Russians sent something like 250 tanks to Spain, all of them better than anything Germany or Italy sent. The Republic started with 2/3 of the air force and Russia sent huge amounts of pilots and planes to help.
So how did they lose? Basically logistics. Franco was a dull, often unimaginative commander but really really good at logistics. He limited the variety of weapons and paid close attention to replacements and supply lines. The Republic was full of emo lunatics who treated supply as an afterthought.
Oh, and the Nationalists left agriculture generally alone while the Republic tried to collectivize everything. It didn't work then because it never works.
I get sick of idiots like Frances Lannon claiming that maybe, maybe Spain was going to be the one example of Communism working. Sure. Pull my other finger.
Civil war, look into logistics. The Spanish arms industry was
fascinating, and caused some very large headaches for both sides.
All
the major manufacturing centers were in the Republican areas, and yet
they had arms shortages. The Republican arsenals also had quality
control issues on things like tempering.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 10:35 AM (xG/b0)
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I'm studying every aspect of it, but all too often politics trump actual facts.
Yes, logistics are crucial and it's fascinating to see how the Nationalists managed to win, considering:
The Republic held more territory
The Republic had more people
The Republic held all the arms, steel and clothing factories
The Republic had international recognition and
The Republic had the country's gold reserves
The conventional narrative is that Literally Hitler and Mussolini tipped the scale, but this ignores the massive Russian intervention as well as more than 30,000 "volunteers" in the International Brigades. The Russians sent something like 250 tanks to Spain, all of them better than anything Germany or Italy sent. The Republic started with 2/3 of the air force and Russia sent huge amounts of pilots and planes to help.
So how did they lose? Basically logistics. Franco was a dull, often unimaginative commander but really really good at logistics. He limited the variety of weapons and paid close attention to replacements and supply lines. The Republic was full of emo lunatics who treated supply as an afterthought.
Oh, and the Nationalists left agriculture generally alone while the Republic tried to collectivize everything. It didn't work then because it never works.
I get sick of idiots like Frances Lannon claiming that maybe, maybe Spain was going to be the one example of Communism working. Sure. Pull my other finger.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:48 AM (cfSRQ)
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I don't know. Seem to be a lot of people in the our educated class who don't really understand or cannot come to grips with the concept of "enemy."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 10:44 AM (H8QX
Yes!
They are fed on philosophy that makes all views "equally valid" and despises Western civilization. They beat their chests with "mea maxima culpa" over historical events and ignore the threats before their eyes.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 10:44 AM (H8QX
Yes!
They are fed on philosophy that makes all views "equally valid" and despises Western civilization. They beat their chests with "mea maxima culpa" over historical events and ignore the threats before their eyes.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:49 AM (U7k5w)
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Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
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Putting kids into state custody does not guarantee their situation will improve.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 15, 2019 10:38 AM (EZebt)
Absolutely. There are some terrible actors inside the system, zealots and other assorted monsters. And there are many many people operating foster care, who do it JUST for the money.
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Putting kids into state custody does not guarantee their situation will improve.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 15, 2019 10:38 AM (EZebt)
Absolutely. There are some terrible actors inside the system, zealots and other assorted monsters. And there are many many people operating foster care, who do it JUST for the money.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:49 AM (cY3LT)
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Janet was one of the most beautiful actresses ever, imo, yet in an understated way. Unlike most of those of her time who really pushed the glam factor.
Posted by: Dagwood at September 15, 2019 10:49 AM (K3bk4)
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Somewhat O/T but as this group has excriciatingly good taste: the Ken Burns documentary about country music starts tonight on PBS stations. I am interested in the topic and hope he does it as well as the Civil War series. His other stuff left me cold. It would be great if it had the equivalent of a Shelby Foote as a guest commenter.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (bmdz3)
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from twitter on Corn Pop
Anyway, during Biden's Negro Summer Safari Adventure, one day, all of the town gangsters came to the pool.
Anyway, during Biden's Negro Summer Safari Adventure, one day, all of the town gangsters came to the pool.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (JFO2v)
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***PSA***
The 2019 Michigan MoMe is next weekend!!!
Join us September 20 & 21 in the greater metropolitan area of Chelsea, Michigan for the festivities.
Friday night, we dine in Hell. Literally. We'll be at the Hell Saloon in Hell, Michigan for dinner around 6:30-ish. After dinner, we'll return to the cabin campsite built on the cursed ancient Indian burial ground just down the road from the state prison for the criminally insane for ukulele practice.
During the day on Saturday, we'll be hanging out at the cabin, whittling entire trees into toothpicks & just generally relaxing. The roundtable discussion topic this year is "IKEA Shelving: Threat or Menace?", followed by small unit tactics practice.
Saturday evening we'll go in to town for diner at the BBQ joint around 4:30; after which we'll return to the campsite for a large thermal event & pants-less dancing to the finest ukulele band in all the land.
If you have a sense of adventure & questionable judgement, there are a limited number of berths still available in the bunk-house style cabin. Let us know if you plan on over-nighting on site.
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***PSA***
The 2019 Michigan MoMe is next weekend!!!
Join us September 20 & 21 in the greater metropolitan area of Chelsea, Michigan for the festivities.
Friday night, we dine in Hell. Literally. We'll be at the Hell Saloon in Hell, Michigan for dinner around 6:30-ish. After dinner, we'll return to the cabin campsite built on the cursed ancient Indian burial ground just down the road from the state prison for the criminally insane for ukulele practice.
During the day on Saturday, we'll be hanging out at the cabin, whittling entire trees into toothpicks & just generally relaxing. The roundtable discussion topic this year is "IKEA Shelving: Threat or Menace?", followed by small unit tactics practice.
Saturday evening we'll go in to town for diner at the BBQ joint around 4:30; after which we'll return to the campsite for a large thermal event & pants-less dancing to the finest ukulele band in all the land.
If you have a sense of adventure & questionable judgement, there are a limited number of berths still available in the bunk-house style cabin. Let us know if you plan on over-nighting on site.
Click the link in the sidebar for more details. If you signed up prior to 06SEP19 but did not receive a confirmation e-mail, please sign up again.
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Posted by: AltonJackson | The MiMoMe is next weekend!!!
Friday night we dine in Hell | click for details at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (KCxzN)
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I'm certain that's true, but I've seen way too much of the other end of it, where kids are in horrible situations, nobody is doing anything to find out the necessary information that can LEGALLY have them removed, and nobody seems to care.
I've called Protective Services myself, on more than a few occasions, and seen essentially nothing done about credible reports of abuse.
Which is not surprising, in my opinion. The indifference comes in on all sides. Sometimes it's inertia, sometimes it's over-zealousness.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
I'm sure you're correct. I was addressing an anecdotal story of a mother who was being bent over while it was unknown if her son would even live because of a freakish accident which happened during normal horseplay with his sister. People made wildly inaccurate hypotheses of what might have happened and used that to grill someone whose world was already being destroyed.
I've called Protective Services myself, on more than a few occasions, and seen essentially nothing done about credible reports of abuse.
Which is not surprising, in my opinion. The indifference comes in on all sides. Sometimes it's inertia, sometimes it's over-zealousness.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
I'm sure you're correct. I was addressing an anecdotal story of a mother who was being bent over while it was unknown if her son would even live because of a freakish accident which happened during normal horseplay with his sister. People made wildly inaccurate hypotheses of what might have happened and used that to grill someone whose world was already being destroyed.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:51 AM (y7DUB)
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BBC says there are 100 Genitals...............
I'll have the BIGGEST ONE PLEASE......
Ooooh that's a CORKER......
Cork Her?...no she prefers Screw Top.
I'll have the BIGGEST ONE PLEASE......
Ooooh that's a CORKER......
Cork Her?...no she prefers Screw Top.
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 10:52 AM (5IHGB)
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197 i am really pissed off at that kavanaugh smear in the nytimes. beneath the national inquirer. just politics of personal destruction as "news".
sop i'm watching a morning animal show on doings at the san diego zoo. very cute baby giraffe and baby hippos. did you know adult hippos can hold their breath underwater for about 5 minutes? i thought it was longer.
sop i'm watching a morning animal show on doings at the san diego zoo. very cute baby giraffe and baby hippos. did you know adult hippos can hold their breath underwater for about 5 minutes? i thought it was longer.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 10:52 AM (Pg+x7)
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Somewhat O/T but as this group has excriciatingly good taste: the Ken Burns documentary about country music starts tonight on PBS stations. I am interested in the topic and hope he does it as well as the Civil War series. His other stuff left me cold. It would be great if it had the equivalent of a Shelby Foote as a guest commenter.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (bmdz3)
Can't say I have any interest in the subject matter, but would agree, the Civil War series was great. The baseball series was terrible in so many ways, most of which are not worth mentioning.
Other than to say, if he does a series on country music, and it is overloaded with all the stuff about rayciss, like the baseball series was, it'll be a disservice to the subject.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (bmdz3)
Can't say I have any interest in the subject matter, but would agree, the Civil War series was great. The baseball series was terrible in so many ways, most of which are not worth mentioning.
Other than to say, if he does a series on country music, and it is overloaded with all the stuff about rayciss, like the baseball series was, it'll be a disservice to the subject.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:53 AM (cY3LT)
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And I looked at him, but I was smart then, I said first of all, I said when I tell you to get off the board you get off the board, and Ill kick you out again, but I shouldnt have called you Esther Williams, I apologize for that, Biden said.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 15, 2019 10:54 AM (JFO2v)
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220 Yes I think I will read it. There's lots of nice pictures, one of them at a White House event with Jackie and JFK.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 10:54 AM (zcT9k)
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I'm sure you're correct. I was addressing an
anecdotal story of a mother who was being bent over while it was unknown
if her son would even live because of a freakish accident which
happened during normal horseplay with his sister. People made wildly
inaccurate hypotheses of what might have happened and used that to grill
someone whose world was already being destroyed.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:51 AM (y7DUB)
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The core issue is lack of accountability.
If they follow a false charge and wreck an otherwise fine family? No consequences.
If they fail to follow up on real situations and a kid dies? No consequences.
I often point out to liberals that before they argue government is the solution that should work there for a bit and imagine these people making life-altering decisions.
anecdotal story of a mother who was being bent over while it was unknown
if her son would even live because of a freakish accident which
happened during normal horseplay with his sister. People made wildly
inaccurate hypotheses of what might have happened and used that to grill
someone whose world was already being destroyed.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:51 AM (y7DUB)
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The core issue is lack of accountability.
If they follow a false charge and wreck an otherwise fine family? No consequences.
If they fail to follow up on real situations and a kid dies? No consequences.
I often point out to liberals that before they argue government is the solution that should work there for a bit and imagine these people making life-altering decisions.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:55 AM (cfSRQ)
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I crossed paths with Tony Curtis at LAX once. Flamboyant personality barely describes him.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 10:55 AM (H8QX8)
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People get worked up, because of false claims of abuse, and I get that, but for every false claim, there's probably dozens of real claims, and then dozens more real abuse/neglect situations that never see any involvement of the state, because nobody gives a damn.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)
I have to agree, plus, the courts bend over backwards in most cases to aid mummy no matter how inadequate or dangerous she is or who she's shacked up with. During the last two years of my career, I filed an ethics complaint against a social worker who did not report a case in which mom (early 40s) had a live in 19yo boyfriend with a big drug problem. He shot up in front of the kids and threatened them. It was the 19 yo in the hospital after some phony suicidal gesture designed to keep him out of jail. He bragged about his behaviors. I called the state and kids were sent to their father. Prejudice in favor of moms is very real
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)
I have to agree, plus, the courts bend over backwards in most cases to aid mummy no matter how inadequate or dangerous she is or who she's shacked up with. During the last two years of my career, I filed an ethics complaint against a social worker who did not report a case in which mom (early 40s) had a live in 19yo boyfriend with a big drug problem. He shot up in front of the kids and threatened them. It was the 19 yo in the hospital after some phony suicidal gesture designed to keep him out of jail. He bragged about his behaviors. I called the state and kids were sent to their father. Prejudice in favor of moms is very real
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:55 AM (U7k5w)
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i bet burns will say country music comes from black music.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 10:56 AM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Grannymimi at September 15, 2019 10:56 AM (u5LFV)
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244 Somewhat O/T but as this group has excriciatingly good taste: the Ken Burns documentary about country music starts tonight on PBS stations. I am interested in the topic and hope he does it as well as the Civil War series. His other stuff left me cold. It would be great if it had the equivalent of a Shelby Foote as a guest commenter.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (bmdz3)
I'll go out on a limb and predict that racism plays a prominent role.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (bmdz3)
I'll go out on a limb and predict that racism plays a prominent role.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 10:56 AM (sdi6R)
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Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
I'm sure you're correct. I was addressing an anecdotal story of a mother who was being bent over while it was unknown if her son would even live because of a freakish accident which happened during normal horseplay with his sister. People made wildly inaccurate hypotheses of what might have happened and used that to grill someone whose world was already being destroyed.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:51 AM (y7DUB)
Understood.
I'll take it one step further: It's entirely possible the whole "shaken baby syndrome" is a complete and utter fraud. There is credible evidence it's not even POSSIBLE to shake a baby in the manner that causes the injuries that are showing up.
People are in prison, based on a phony claim that the ONLY possible cause for injuries seen is that someone shook them, and the only "scientific" data that shows such a thing is possible, was a study from the 50's, I think, and it doesn't say what the "shaken baby" zealots claim it does.
But the people behind pushing "shaken baby syndrome" on us, are the same people who gave us the Satanic Day Care scare, that also sent innocent people to prison.
I'm sure you're correct. I was addressing an anecdotal story of a mother who was being bent over while it was unknown if her son would even live because of a freakish accident which happened during normal horseplay with his sister. People made wildly inaccurate hypotheses of what might have happened and used that to grill someone whose world was already being destroyed.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:51 AM (y7DUB)
Understood.
I'll take it one step further: It's entirely possible the whole "shaken baby syndrome" is a complete and utter fraud. There is credible evidence it's not even POSSIBLE to shake a baby in the manner that causes the injuries that are showing up.
People are in prison, based on a phony claim that the ONLY possible cause for injuries seen is that someone shook them, and the only "scientific" data that shows such a thing is possible, was a study from the 50's, I think, and it doesn't say what the "shaken baby" zealots claim it does.
But the people behind pushing "shaken baby syndrome" on us, are the same people who gave us the Satanic Day Care scare, that also sent innocent people to prison.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:57 AM (cY3LT)
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...oooh, there's a baby anteater!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 10:57 AM (Pg+x7)
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Somewhat O/T but as this group has excriciatingly good taste: the Ken Burns documentary about country music starts tonight on PBS stations. I am interested in the topic and hope he does it as well as the Civil War series. His other stuff left me cold. It would be great if it had the equivalent of a Shelby Foote as a guest commenter.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (bmdz3)
His work on jazz was absolutely terrible; acting as if everything ended with Coltrane and treating it as black/white fairy tale belonging in a museum. Avant garde musicians were almost completely ignored as was the European free jazz scene.
Since he's incapable of not seeing things as primarily racial in nature, I'm surprised he's even interested in country.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:50 AM (bmdz3)
His work on jazz was absolutely terrible; acting as if everything ended with Coltrane and treating it as black/white fairy tale belonging in a museum. Avant garde musicians were almost completely ignored as was the European free jazz scene.
Since he's incapable of not seeing things as primarily racial in nature, I'm surprised he's even interested in country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (y7DUB)
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is there a corn pop twitter account yet?
there needs to be
there needs to be
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (+72t1)
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Can't say I have any interest in the subject matter,
but would agree, the Civil War series was great. The baseball series
was terrible in so many ways, most of which are not worth mentioning.
Other than to say, if he does a series on country music, and it is
overloaded with all the stuff about rayciss, like the baseball series
was, it'll be a disservice to the subject.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:53 AM (cY3LT)
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The Civil War was good because all they did was copy from Bruce Catton.
If you've read him (and you should) the quotes, anecdotes, battle descriptions - all of that was in the TV show. They had some other historians add color (Shelby Foote comes to mind), but it was really a Bruce Catton audio/video presentation.
That's not to denigrate the Burns brothers. Choosing Catton was smart.
Maybe they didn't have sources like that for their other stuff.
but would agree, the Civil War series was great. The baseball series
was terrible in so many ways, most of which are not worth mentioning.
Other than to say, if he does a series on country music, and it is
overloaded with all the stuff about rayciss, like the baseball series
was, it'll be a disservice to the subject.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:53 AM (cY3LT)
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The Civil War was good because all they did was copy from Bruce Catton.
If you've read him (and you should) the quotes, anecdotes, battle descriptions - all of that was in the TV show. They had some other historians add color (Shelby Foote comes to mind), but it was really a Bruce Catton audio/video presentation.
That's not to denigrate the Burns brothers. Choosing Catton was smart.
Maybe they didn't have sources like that for their other stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (cfSRQ)
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This talk of comparing language reminds me. In junior high school I thought it would be interesting to translate, letter by letter, words from Greek. Maybe I was inspired because my friends and I did that with Dwarf runes from LOTR.
After doing a couple of sentences and realizing I could make sense of it, I was amazed how much ancient Greek had 'borrowed' from English. My surprise was funny but it opened my eyes to the interconnections between languages, an interest that continues.
After doing a couple of sentences and realizing I could make sense of it, I was amazed how much ancient Greek had 'borrowed' from English. My surprise was funny but it opened my eyes to the interconnections between languages, an interest that continues.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 10:59 AM (bmdz3)
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Since he's incapable of not seeing things as primarily racial in nature, I'm surprised he's even interested in country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (y7DUB)
All he has to do is find a racial angle and he's off to the, ahem, races.
Since he's incapable of not seeing things as primarily racial in nature, I'm surprised he's even interested in country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (y7DUB)
All he has to do is find a racial angle and he's off to the, ahem, races.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 11:01 AM (sdi6R)
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Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)
I have to agree, plus, the courts bend over backwards in most cases to aid mummy no matter how inadequate or dangerous she is or who she's shacked up with. During the last two years of my career, I filed an ethics complaint against a social worker who did not report a case in which mom (early 40s) had a live in 19yo boyfriend with a big drug problem. He shot up in front of the kids and threatened them. It was the 19 yo in the hospital after some phony suicidal gesture designed to keep him out of jail. He bragged about his behaviors. I called the state and kids were sent to their father. Prejudice in favor of moms is very real
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:55 AM (U7k5w)
Sadly true. I'm glad you reported the SW, because a lot of them are so damned biased, they have no idea how far they are putting their own personal experience into these situations.
So many of them go into that work because they were subjected to abuse themselves, and so if they see moms as innocent, in need of help, when the moms are often the primary cause of the problem, it's often because that's how they view their own mothers. That, and rampant feminist thinking.
I have to agree, plus, the courts bend over backwards in most cases to aid mummy no matter how inadequate or dangerous she is or who she's shacked up with. During the last two years of my career, I filed an ethics complaint against a social worker who did not report a case in which mom (early 40s) had a live in 19yo boyfriend with a big drug problem. He shot up in front of the kids and threatened them. It was the 19 yo in the hospital after some phony suicidal gesture designed to keep him out of jail. He bragged about his behaviors. I called the state and kids were sent to their father. Prejudice in favor of moms is very real
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 10:55 AM (U7k5w)
Sadly true. I'm glad you reported the SW, because a lot of them are so damned biased, they have no idea how far they are putting their own personal experience into these situations.
So many of them go into that work because they were subjected to abuse themselves, and so if they see moms as innocent, in need of help, when the moms are often the primary cause of the problem, it's often because that's how they view their own mothers. That, and rampant feminist thinking.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (cY3LT)
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I learned a small smattering of Latin and Greek a long time ago, which was occasionally useful in figuring out certain unfamiliar word in English due to recognizing a root word that came from one of those two languages.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (NWiLs)
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250 ... "f he does a series on country music, and it is overloaded with all the stuff about rayciss, like the baseball series was, it'll be a disservice to the subject."
Hi BurtTC, Yeah, that's my concern as well. Judging by the previews, it looks like they may avoid that. Here's hoping.
Hi BurtTC, Yeah, that's my concern as well. Judging by the previews, it looks like they may avoid that. Here's hoping.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (bmdz3)
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I thought it would be interesting to translate, letter by letter, words from Greek.
Benefit of being a fraternity boy, we had to learn the Greek alphabet. I can sound out words and sometimes get meaning from them.
And reading the Greek alphabet gets you more than halfway toward deciphering Cyrillic.
Benefit of being a fraternity boy, we had to learn the Greek alphabet. I can sound out words and sometimes get meaning from them.
And reading the Greek alphabet gets you more than halfway toward deciphering Cyrillic.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (FNXDu)
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So many of them go into that work because they were subjected to abuse themselves, and so if they see moms as innocent, in need of help, when the moms are often the primary cause of the problem, it's often because that's how they view their own mothers. That, and rampant feminist thinking.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (cY3LT)
I choose radical feminist thinking. Most of these girls have had serious indoctrination in college, and many of them participated in the pussyhead putsch.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (cY3LT)
I choose radical feminist thinking. Most of these girls have had serious indoctrination in college, and many of them participated in the pussyhead putsch.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:04 AM (U7k5w)
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Speaking of reading a book for the nth time, my wife (the lovely and gracious Annalucia) and I just finished reading The Lord of the Rings aloud to each other. We would take turns reading: I'd read while she cooked or knitted, she'd read while I was doing the dishes or otherwise cleaning up. It took about a month. The best way to appreciate great prose, I think, is to read it aloud. The "mouth feel" of fine language, like that of a fine wine, is a sensual pleasure that you lose when reading silently. Also, I find that reading aloud requires that I actually grapple with what's on the page, rather than skim it and substitute a paraphrase of it in my mind. In any event, Tolkien's story and his writing continue to give pleasure, even on the nth reading: the company of a great book, like that of a good friend, never grows stale.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 15, 2019 11:05 AM (S6ArX)
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Maybe they didn't have sources like that for their other stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (cfSRQ)
He used Stanley Crouch as his touchstone on jazz. Crouch is a fine writer who used to be a mediocre AG drummer until he lost his fucking mind and threw his lot in with the Marsalis family as the only 100% authentic jazz voices. I have no animosity toward the Marsalis family in terms of being fine musicians; just that they aren't the final word on any fucking thing and are, in fact, quite retro in outlook.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (cfSRQ)
He used Stanley Crouch as his touchstone on jazz. Crouch is a fine writer who used to be a mediocre AG drummer until he lost his fucking mind and threw his lot in with the Marsalis family as the only 100% authentic jazz voices. I have no animosity toward the Marsalis family in terms of being fine musicians; just that they aren't the final word on any fucking thing and are, in fact, quite retro in outlook.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 11:06 AM (KtMnQ)
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Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:53 AM (cY3LT)
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The Civil War was good because all they did was copy from Bruce Catton.
If you've read him (and you should) the quotes, anecdotes, battle descriptions - all of that was in the TV show. They had some other historians add color (Shelby Foote comes to mind), but it was really a Bruce Catton audio/video presentation.
That's not to denigrate the Burns brothers. Choosing Catton was smart.
Maybe they didn't have sources like that for their other stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (cfSRQ)
Yeah, I've read Catton. I don't think I saw it as direct a connection, but I'll assume you are correct.
I think the problem for his baseball series is that he didn't really use any template, other than New York writers and personalities who glorified their experiences of growing up/writing (primarily) in the 50s, when racial guilt was built into the pudding.
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The Civil War was good because all they did was copy from Bruce Catton.
If you've read him (and you should) the quotes, anecdotes, battle descriptions - all of that was in the TV show. They had some other historians add color (Shelby Foote comes to mind), but it was really a Bruce Catton audio/video presentation.
That's not to denigrate the Burns brothers. Choosing Catton was smart.
Maybe they didn't have sources like that for their other stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (cfSRQ)
Yeah, I've read Catton. I don't think I saw it as direct a connection, but I'll assume you are correct.
I think the problem for his baseball series is that he didn't really use any template, other than New York writers and personalities who glorified their experiences of growing up/writing (primarily) in the 50s, when racial guilt was built into the pudding.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:06 AM (cY3LT)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:58 AM (cfSRQ)
Clicking your link leads me to believe you are a former Case Hall resident. If so, how did you not come out a lib?
Clicking your link leads me to believe you are a former Case Hall resident. If so, how did you not come out a lib?
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:06 AM (U7k5w)
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I will pass on Ken Burns' alleged history of country music. It's going to play to the bigotry and prejudice of the coastal elites.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 11:07 AM (zcT9k)
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In any event, Tolkien's story and his writing continue to give pleasure, even on the nth reading: the company of a great book, like that of a good friend, never grows stale.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 15, 2019 11:05 AM (S6ArX)
Posted by: Brown Line at September 15, 2019 11:05 AM (S6ArX)
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:07 AM (U7k5w)
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In any event, Tolkien's story and his writing continue to give pleasure, even on the nth reading: the company of a great book, like that of a good friend, never grows stale.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 15, 2019 11:05 AM (S6ArX)
I feel the same way about much of CS Lewis. I have read aloud from A Grief Observed to depressed people.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 15, 2019 11:05 AM (S6ArX)
I feel the same way about much of CS Lewis. I have read aloud from A Grief Observed to depressed people.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:08 AM (U7k5w)
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So many of them go into that work because they were subjected to abuse themselves, and so if they see moms as innocent, in need of help, when the moms are often the primary cause of the problem, it's often because that's how they view their own mothers. That, and rampant feminist thinking.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (cY3LT)
I choose radical feminist thinking. Most of these girls have had serious indoctrination in college, and many of them participated in the pussyhead putsch.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:04 AM (U7k5w)
That's probably more true of the younger folk, but those who have been in the business for a while are still in the traditional feminist mindset, and if you got an honest poll of people who work in child protective services, somewhere fairly close to 100% of them experienced abuse/neglect in their own childhoods.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (cY3LT)
I choose radical feminist thinking. Most of these girls have had serious indoctrination in college, and many of them participated in the pussyhead putsch.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:04 AM (U7k5w)
That's probably more true of the younger folk, but those who have been in the business for a while are still in the traditional feminist mindset, and if you got an honest poll of people who work in child protective services, somewhere fairly close to 100% of them experienced abuse/neglect in their own childhoods.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:09 AM (cY3LT)
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... "f he does a series on country music, and it is overloaded with all the stuff about rayciss, like the baseball series was, it'll be a disservice to the subject."
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Hi BurtTC, Yeah, that's my concern as well. Judging by the previews, it looks like they may avoid that. Here's hoping.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (bmdz3)
For the sake of fans, I hope so too, but I don't care much for country music, so I won't be watching either way.
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Hi BurtTC, Yeah, that's my concern as well. Judging by the previews, it looks like they may avoid that. Here's hoping.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 11:02 AM (bmdz3)
For the sake of fans, I hope so too, but I don't care much for country music, so I won't be watching either way.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:10 AM (cY3LT)
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When I was in high school, we read the "Canterbury Tales",
as a take home test our teacher required us to write our own Canterbury Tale.
I still remember some of the poetry, mine opened:
Now Summer's here
We do not tarry
But hasten off
To Cackleberry...
Not immortal poetry but I tried to write in the style of Chaucer's tale, and in the spirit of "The Miller's Tale".
This offended my teacher. A. Lot.
She gave me an "A" cuz how could she not.
But, she made it very, very clear that I should never, ever, ever do that again.
I didn't listen.*
*Veiled reference to my novel "Wearing the Cat".
as a take home test our teacher required us to write our own Canterbury Tale.
I still remember some of the poetry, mine opened:
Now Summer's here
We do not tarry
But hasten off
To Cackleberry...
Not immortal poetry but I tried to write in the style of Chaucer's tale, and in the spirit of "The Miller's Tale".
This offended my teacher. A. Lot.
She gave me an "A" cuz how could she not.
But, she made it very, very clear that I should never, ever, ever do that again.
I didn't listen.*
*Veiled reference to my novel "Wearing the Cat".
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:10 AM (pqyXj)
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Ou est la bibliotheque?
just follow the bums...................
Is there a Hearst dynasty in existence out there in the Ether running things?
just follow the bums...................
Is there a Hearst dynasty in existence out there in the Ether running things?
Posted by: saf at September 15, 2019 11:10 AM (5IHGB)
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burns gave short shrift to miles davis in his jazz series. his narrative pretty much ended c.1960, but davis got about 5 minutes. unforgivable.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:11 AM (Pg+x7)
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Clicking your link leads me to believe you are a former Case Hall resident. If so, how did you not come out a lib?
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:06 AM (U7k5w)
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I'm reactionary by nature and skeptical by education.
I believe the traditional greeting between JMC alums is: Who did you have?
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:06 AM (U7k5w)
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I'm reactionary by nature and skeptical by education.
I believe the traditional greeting between JMC alums is: Who did you have?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:13 AM (cfSRQ)
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Janet Leigh acted with cool reserve. Most hot blonde of her era played the dots
Hitchcock loved ice princesses
Hitchcock loved ice princesses
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 11:13 AM (KtMnQ)
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I think the problem for his baseball series is that he didn't really use any template, other than New York writers and personalities who glorified their experiences of growing up/writing (primarily) in the 50s, when racial guilt was built into the pudding.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:06 AM (cY3LT)
Oh yes, I had forgotten how New York-centric the baseball series was.
I think the problem for his baseball series is that he didn't really use any template, other than New York writers and personalities who glorified their experiences of growing up/writing (primarily) in the 50s, when racial guilt was built into the pudding.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:06 AM (cY3LT)
Oh yes, I had forgotten how New York-centric the baseball series was.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 11:13 AM (sdi6R)
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Ditz
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2019 11:14 AM (KtMnQ)
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@ 227
Maybe not the loss of God, but the open defiance. "Watch me do the worst thing ever, Dad"
Maybe not the loss of God, but the open defiance. "Watch me do the worst thing ever, Dad"
Posted by: artemis at September 15, 2019 11:14 AM (AwPyG)
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China blinks...
Not a peep about trade on NPR Sunday morning! I wonder if the news editors there enjoy lying, or it's just an automatic reflex? When I think I might be being too harsh, I just think about their opinion of me!
Not a peep about trade on NPR Sunday morning! I wonder if the news editors there enjoy lying, or it's just an automatic reflex? When I think I might be being too harsh, I just think about their opinion of me!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (hyCYD)
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This was laid out in great detail by J.K. Rowling in the book "Herr Pottery and the Half-Blood Prints".
Posted by: Muldoon
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Y'know that mob is still around here somewhere.
Posted by: Muldoon
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Y'know that mob is still around here somewhere.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (dmoiP)
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You want to look into Grimm's law, and maybe listen to the first twenty or so episodes of the historyofenglishpodcast.com
What you say is true of Indo-European and parts of Uralic languages, but other languages have other roots
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 10:27 AM (xG/b0)
The best speculation on the Indo-Europeans (a name based only on where there descendants ended up) is that they started off in the area roughly between the Caucasus mountains and the Black Sea. Other peoples had started herding animals for food, including horses, but the proto-Indo Europeans were the first to figure out how to domesticate and ride horses. This gave them a huge advantage in warfare with other groups, as well as a huge increase in mobility - they would have been the first in a long line of horse based civilizations that thrived on the Asian steppes.
They don't appear to have ever advanced past a purely tribal level of social organization, so there was never any kind of grand political structure. Rather, over the centuries one group would decide things were getting too crowded at home, so they'd take off to the west, and conquer there, and then another group would go east, and so on. Their descendants include the Celts, the Germanic tribes, the Latins, the Greeks, the Persians, the Hittites, and of course, the Hindi.
What you say is true of Indo-European and parts of Uralic languages, but other languages have other roots
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 10:27 AM (xG/b0)
The best speculation on the Indo-Europeans (a name based only on where there descendants ended up) is that they started off in the area roughly between the Caucasus mountains and the Black Sea. Other peoples had started herding animals for food, including horses, but the proto-Indo Europeans were the first to figure out how to domesticate and ride horses. This gave them a huge advantage in warfare with other groups, as well as a huge increase in mobility - they would have been the first in a long line of horse based civilizations that thrived on the Asian steppes.
They don't appear to have ever advanced past a purely tribal level of social organization, so there was never any kind of grand political structure. Rather, over the centuries one group would decide things were getting too crowded at home, so they'd take off to the west, and conquer there, and then another group would go east, and so on. Their descendants include the Celts, the Germanic tribes, the Latins, the Greeks, the Persians, the Hittites, and of course, the Hindi.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (V2Yro)
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Y'know that mob is still around here somewhere.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (dmoiP)
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Forget it, Jake. It's Muldoon Town.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (dmoiP)
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Forget it, Jake. It's Muldoon Town.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:16 AM (cfSRQ)
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LOL. Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh discussing "The Black Shield of Falworth."
Posted by: JAS at September 15, 2019 11:18 AM (0LxiW)
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Here's an interesting article on the third installment of Marc Cushman's series on Star Trek, These Are The Voyages: Season Three:
https://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/star-treks-third-season/
The much-maligned third season (which led with "Spock's Brain", which is the Spock's Brain of episodes) had some show ponies in all that manure, like "The Tholian Web", a personal favorite.
https://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/star-treks-third-season/
The much-maligned third season (which led with "Spock's Brain", which is the Spock's Brain of episodes) had some show ponies in all that manure, like "The Tholian Web", a personal favorite.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 11:18 AM (kQs4Y)
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291 tom servo: that's very interesting.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:18 AM (Pg+x7)
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We read The Poppy War in book club (reference to comment 202 above.) Parts are ripped straight from recent history, like the Rape of Nanking. The author has said she's basing the main character on the life of Mao Zedong. I...can't think of a person LESS worthy of being memorialized in fiction, unless it's as the mass murdering villain.
Posted by: John Taloni at September 15, 2019 11:19 AM (/Nhc5)
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Janet Leigh acted with cool reserve. Most hot blonde of her era played the dots
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Nice. Today they only get to work at 7-11
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Nice. Today they only get to work at 7-11
Posted by: Joe Biden, Destroyer of Corn Pop at September 15, 2019 11:20 AM (Izzlo)
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What would be fun is to give Biden a handful of Corn Nuts and see what happens.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2019 10:32 AM (QZCjk)
Yeah, see, I don't get this.
Here's a guy with plenty o'cash and who makes his living when he's not accepting bribes and graft by public speaking,
Biden should definitely have spend the money to have his dentures supported by implants.
That way he doesn't look like Senile Olde Floppy McDentures on national TV-
when he's trying to convince voters how "with it" he is.
Stupid, but, hey, that's your modern Democrat politician.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2019 10:32 AM (QZCjk)
Yeah, see, I don't get this.
Here's a guy with plenty o'cash and who makes his living when he's not accepting bribes and graft by public speaking,
Biden should definitely have spend the money to have his dentures supported by implants.
That way he doesn't look like Senile Olde Floppy McDentures on national TV-
when he's trying to convince voters how "with it" he is.
Stupid, but, hey, that's your modern Democrat politician.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:20 AM (pqyXj)
Posted by: Max Power at September 15, 2019 11:21 AM (llxrS)
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... servo: when was all this conquering going on?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:21 AM (Pg+x7)
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The much-maligned third season (which led with
"Spock's Brain", which is the Spock's Brain of episodes) had some show
ponies in all that manure, like "The Tholian Web", a personal favorite.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 11:18 AM (kQs4Y)
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I own the other two seasons on DVD and Three wasn't a priority. I figure I'll get it eventually.
It's sort of like Season Five of Babylon 5. I bought it for completeness' sake, but even reading the episode summary made me queasy.
Has any show been dissected as much for so little purpose as Star Trek? I own Roddenberry's book and that was more than enough.
"Spock's Brain", which is the Spock's Brain of episodes) had some show
ponies in all that manure, like "The Tholian Web", a personal favorite.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 11:18 AM (kQs4Y)
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I own the other two seasons on DVD and Three wasn't a priority. I figure I'll get it eventually.
It's sort of like Season Five of Babylon 5. I bought it for completeness' sake, but even reading the episode summary made me queasy.
Has any show been dissected as much for so little purpose as Star Trek? I own Roddenberry's book and that was more than enough.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:21 AM (cfSRQ)
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I'm reading two gloriously thick books. I love thick books. The first is philosophy: Warranted Christian Belief by Alvin Plantinga. The second is, I don't know, science fiction? Mathematical fiction? It's Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson.
Posted by: Jim S. at September 15, 2019 11:22 AM (ynUnH)
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An honest accounting of Country Music would probably be very interesting, b-u-u-u-u-u-ut -
Ken Burns is not an honest broker and he's got an ideological ax to grind so
Hard pass.
Ken Burns is not an honest broker and he's got an ideological ax to grind so
Hard pass.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:23 AM (pqyXj)
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... servo: when was all this conquering going on?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:21 AM (Pg+x7)
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In between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the Sons of Arius, there was an age undreamed of.
... servo: when was all this conquering going on?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:21 AM (Pg+x7)
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In between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the Sons of Arius, there was an age undreamed of.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:24 AM (cfSRQ)
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This was laid out in great detail by J.K. Rowling in the book "Herr Pottery and the Half-Blood Prints".
Posted by: Muldoon
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Y'know that mob is still around here somewhere.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (dmoiP)
Somewhat related, if y'all have never seen the "Internet Historian" Youtube channel, I cannot recommend it enough.
It kinda is what the title says it is. He takes well known, and sometimes not well known internet incidents/stories, and provides a fairly thorough summary of them.
He's funny as hell... and I'm pretty damned sure he leans right.
Anyhoo, there's a three part series where he basically reads what I assume is a condensed version of a fanfic for Harry Potter, where Harry is a vampire, and the main character is too! The main character's name is NOT Mary Sue, but it should be. Hilariously atrocious writing, but the videos are a hoot.
Posted by: Muldoon
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Y'know that mob is still around here somewhere.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (dmoiP)
Somewhat related, if y'all have never seen the "Internet Historian" Youtube channel, I cannot recommend it enough.
It kinda is what the title says it is. He takes well known, and sometimes not well known internet incidents/stories, and provides a fairly thorough summary of them.
He's funny as hell... and I'm pretty damned sure he leans right.
Anyhoo, there's a three part series where he basically reads what I assume is a condensed version of a fanfic for Harry Potter, where Harry is a vampire, and the main character is too! The main character's name is NOT Mary Sue, but it should be. Hilariously atrocious writing, but the videos are a hoot.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:24 AM (cY3LT)
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271 ... "The best way to appreciate great prose, I think, is to read it aloud. The "mouth feel" of fine language, like that of a fine wine, is a sensual pleasure that you lose when reading silently. Also, I find that reading aloud requires that I actually grapple with what's on the page, rather than skim it and substitute a paraphrase of it in my mind. In any event, Tolkien's story and his writing continue to give pleasure, even on the nth reading: the company of a great book, like that of a good friend, never grows stale."
Brown Line,
I absolutely agree. After reading LOTR for over half a century, I hear the words in my voice and cadence, which makes a difference. I love to read poetry aloud even if just for myself. Shakespeare's sonnets, Tennyson, and especially Poe all take on added depth as you wrestle with putting into sound what you heard in your head. What tempo? Where to put stresses? How long to pause? High or low tone? How loud or soft?
Charles Dickens did extensive tours reading from "A Christmas Carol". He had a heavily annotated copy with details to follow as he read to the audience. I have a recent reprint of that volume with the notes he made over the years. It makes for interesting reading.
Brown Line,
I absolutely agree. After reading LOTR for over half a century, I hear the words in my voice and cadence, which makes a difference. I love to read poetry aloud even if just for myself. Shakespeare's sonnets, Tennyson, and especially Poe all take on added depth as you wrestle with putting into sound what you heard in your head. What tempo? Where to put stresses? How long to pause? High or low tone? How loud or soft?
Charles Dickens did extensive tours reading from "A Christmas Carol". He had a heavily annotated copy with details to follow as he read to the audience. I have a recent reprint of that volume with the notes he made over the years. It makes for interesting reading.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 11:24 AM (bmdz3)
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Has any show been dissected as much for so little purpose as Star Trek?
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None. And that includes the works of Shakespeare.
It was television, they were just trying to throw something up every week and occasionally they made great art.
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None. And that includes the works of Shakespeare.
It was television, they were just trying to throw something up every week and occasionally they made great art.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 11:24 AM (kQs4Y)
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302 I'm reading two gloriously thick books. I love thick books. The first is philosophy: Warranted Christian Belief by Alvin Plantinga. The second is, I don't know, science fiction? Mathematical fiction? It's Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson.
Posted by: Jim S. at September 15, 2019 11:22 AM (ynUnH)
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"Cryptonomicon" is excellent.
Posted by: Jim S. at September 15, 2019 11:22 AM (ynUnH)
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"Cryptonomicon" is excellent.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 11:27 AM (WEBkv)
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O/T, yet not entirely.
Another B'More headline.
But I only mention it for what I believe is a linguistic mistake in the wording of the headline.
Do the words chosen mean linguistically that there is a belief that they are human remains.
Or, That the belief is that they may have been wrapped in a blanket?
https://cbsloc.al/2lRt8hw
I consider myself to be VERY weak in the written word.
But, Are there folk out there earning money using the written word, who are dumber than I am?
Another B'More headline.
But I only mention it for what I believe is a linguistic mistake in the wording of the headline.
Do the words chosen mean linguistically that there is a belief that they are human remains.
Or, That the belief is that they may have been wrapped in a blanket?
https://cbsloc.al/2lRt8hw
I consider myself to be VERY weak in the written word.
But, Are there folk out there earning money using the written word, who are dumber than I am?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 11:27 AM (cqNba)
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It was Desilu for heaven's sake.
Posted by: JAS at September 15, 2019 11:27 AM (0LxiW)
Posted by: mnw at September 15, 2019 11:28 AM (Cssks)
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I'm out of reading material.
Currently re-reading "Colony," by Anne Rivers Siddons.
I've got partway through it and remembered I don't particularly like the story.
Currently re-reading "Colony," by Anne Rivers Siddons.
I've got partway through it and remembered I don't particularly like the story.
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at September 15, 2019 11:29 AM (P96Ys)
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I loves Star Trek TOS when it came out (seriously dating myself, here) and recall writing letters to keep it on the air. Somewhere I have some insignia my brother got for me by writing often to James Doohan
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:29 AM (U7k5w)
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Stupid, but, hey, that's your modern Democrat politician.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:20 AM (pqyXj)
He's old school, in so many ways. Nobody around to tell him the truth, because they've learned not to disagree with him, ever, as opposed to the new skrewel Dems, who don't have a single original thought, and EVERYTHING is scripted based on polls, because they're puppets with somebody else's hand up their backsides.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:20 AM (pqyXj)
He's old school, in so many ways. Nobody around to tell him the truth, because they've learned not to disagree with him, ever, as opposed to the new skrewel Dems, who don't have a single original thought, and EVERYTHING is scripted based on polls, because they're puppets with somebody else's hand up their backsides.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:29 AM (cY3LT)
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Brain and brain, what is brain?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 11:29 AM (kQs4Y)
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China blinks...
Not a peep about trade on NPR Sunday morning! I wonder if the news editors there enjoy lying, or it's just an automatic reflex? When I think I might be being too harsh, I just think about their opinion of me!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (hyCYD)
Yup....China learned the hard way you cannot make Moo Shu Pork without the pork.
Not a peep about trade on NPR Sunday morning! I wonder if the news editors there enjoy lying, or it's just an automatic reflex? When I think I might be being too harsh, I just think about their opinion of me!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 15, 2019 11:15 AM (hyCYD)
Yup....China learned the hard way you cannot make Moo Shu Pork without the pork.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2019 11:31 AM (Z+IKu)
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i finished lotr thinking it was as much about tolkien's interest in language as anything else, which delighted me.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:31 AM (Pg+x7)
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Charles Dickens did extensive tours reading from "A Christmas Carol". He had a heavily annotated copy with details to follow as he read to the audience. I have a recent reprint of that volume with the notes he made over the years. It makes for interesting reading.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 11:24 AM (bmdz3)
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JTB, do you have a link for that annotated volume? That's my husband's favorite story. He rereads it every year at Christmas time. I would love to get him this.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 11:24 AM (bmdz3)
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JTB, do you have a link for that annotated volume? That's my husband's favorite story. He rereads it every year at Christmas time. I would love to get him this.
Posted by: bluebell at September 15, 2019 11:32 AM (aXucN)
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Absolutely. There are some terrible actors inside the system, zealots and other assorted monsters. And there are many many people operating foster care, who do it JUST for the money.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:49 AM (cY3LT)
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When my children were in foster care (had to go there when I started the process through which I took them away from the ex) they had a few stories to tell about the foster family and they weren't exactly complimentary.
I mostly ignored what they had to say, because I was thrilled I had my kids.
Then, reality set in.
Absolutely. There are some terrible actors inside the system, zealots and other assorted monsters. And there are many many people operating foster care, who do it JUST for the money.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:49 AM (cY3LT)
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When my children were in foster care (had to go there when I started the process through which I took them away from the ex) they had a few stories to tell about the foster family and they weren't exactly complimentary.
I mostly ignored what they had to say, because I was thrilled I had my kids.
Then, reality set in.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (WEBkv)
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I give my German students a shot of Beowulf and then Chaucer to see if they can guess what language each is.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (FNXDu)
A guy I knew in high school said his Danish grandfather liked Chaucer when he first immigrated because it was easy for him to read
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2019 09:54 AM (FNXDu)
A guy I knew in high school said his Danish grandfather liked Chaucer when he first immigrated because it was easy for him to read
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (xG/b0)
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Has any show been dissected as much for so little purpose as Star Trek?
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None. And that includes the works of Shakespeare.
It was television, they were just trying to throw something up every week and occasionally they made great art.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 11:24 AM (kQs4Y)
I could probably count on one hand the number of episodes I've seen, and have a finger or two left over. It always amuses me, the people who can catalog every detail of particular episodes.
There's an Assburger's quality to it. You can watch ordinary people's eyes glaze over when the subject of Star Trek comes on, and their robotic retelling of every minute detail... one gets the sense that if you interrupted them they will throw a tantrum, where they eat dirt, then poop into their hands, and smear it on the walls.
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None. And that includes the works of Shakespeare.
It was television, they were just trying to throw something up every week and occasionally they made great art.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 11:24 AM (kQs4Y)
I could probably count on one hand the number of episodes I've seen, and have a finger or two left over. It always amuses me, the people who can catalog every detail of particular episodes.
There's an Assburger's quality to it. You can watch ordinary people's eyes glaze over when the subject of Star Trek comes on, and their robotic retelling of every minute detail... one gets the sense that if you interrupted them they will throw a tantrum, where they eat dirt, then poop into their hands, and smear it on the walls.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (cY3LT)
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Was the 3rd season of Star Trek the one that had the space hippie episode, "Space Bus to Eden" or whatever it was called.
That was the absolute nadir of the show.
Plus, it had bonus Hippie Spock singing hippie songs.
All of the writers should've been taken out after that show a shot like race horses with broken legs.
Cuz jST was never going to be anything but lame after that.
That was the absolute nadir of the show.
Plus, it had bonus Hippie Spock singing hippie songs.
All of the writers should've been taken out after that show a shot like race horses with broken legs.
Cuz jST was never going to be anything but lame after that.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (pqyXj)
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 11:35 AM (ZCEU2)
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Skip, how did you like the Udvar Hazy museum? What was your favorite thing?
Posted by: bluebell at September 15, 2019 11:35 AM (aXucN)
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300 ... servo: when was all this conquering going on?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:21 AM (Pg+x7)
Written history begins, roughly, at about 3,000 B.C. (fragmentary Sumerian and Egyptian records for the first few hundred years) The linguists who look at the times it takes for language to evolve, and other clues, suggest that the first great wave of movements happened betwen 7,000 BC and 3,000 BC.
Then there was the still mysterious Bronze Age collapse of about 1200 BC, during which a lot of populations moved to new lands. The last great wave was when the Western Empire collapsed, and the Goths and their allies overran almost all of Europe. Of course, that was a later group of Indo-Europeans overrunning the earlier, established Indo-Europeans.
There's plenty of speculation as to whether any non-Indo-European descendants are left in Europe. The Basques, most think, who may be related to the Etruscans. Possibly the Picts in Scotland.
Hungarian is a non-Indo-European language, and it's related to the Finns, the Estonians, and some other northern groups. Be a fascinating tale to learn how a bunch of them ended up running Hungary.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:21 AM (Pg+x7)
Written history begins, roughly, at about 3,000 B.C. (fragmentary Sumerian and Egyptian records for the first few hundred years) The linguists who look at the times it takes for language to evolve, and other clues, suggest that the first great wave of movements happened betwen 7,000 BC and 3,000 BC.
Then there was the still mysterious Bronze Age collapse of about 1200 BC, during which a lot of populations moved to new lands. The last great wave was when the Western Empire collapsed, and the Goths and their allies overran almost all of Europe. Of course, that was a later group of Indo-Europeans overrunning the earlier, established Indo-Europeans.
There's plenty of speculation as to whether any non-Indo-European descendants are left in Europe. The Basques, most think, who may be related to the Etruscans. Possibly the Picts in Scotland.
Hungarian is a non-Indo-European language, and it's related to the Finns, the Estonians, and some other northern groups. Be a fascinating tale to learn how a bunch of them ended up running Hungary.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2019 11:36 AM (V2Yro)
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An interesting country music, specifically bluegrass, story can be found on one of the Bear Family boxed sets of a period of Bill Monroe's career where they chronologically present every studio recording. During a Florida session guitarist Jimmy Martin wasn't present (probable an irate husband was at the bottom of it) and was replaced by the erstwhile Cajun fiddler Doug Kershaw on rhythm guitar. The two songs have a decided Cajun lilt to them that the Big Mon ultimately decided was an unprofitable detour from the traditional bluegrass sound and probably never released them; but they're a fascinating look at a path not taken.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 11:36 AM (y7DUB)
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Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 10:49 AM (cY3LT)
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When my children were in foster care (had to go there when I started the process through which I took them away from the ex) they had a few stories to tell about the foster family and they weren't exactly complimentary.
I mostly ignored what they had to say, because I was thrilled I had my kids.
Then, reality set in.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (WEBkv)
Yes, for a single parent, it would seem, after the hardest thing being not being able to see and spend time with one's children, is the second hardest thing... spending time with one's children!
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When my children were in foster care (had to go there when I started the process through which I took them away from the ex) they had a few stories to tell about the foster family and they weren't exactly complimentary.
I mostly ignored what they had to say, because I was thrilled I had my kids.
Then, reality set in.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (WEBkv)
Yes, for a single parent, it would seem, after the hardest thing being not being able to see and spend time with one's children, is the second hardest thing... spending time with one's children!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:37 AM (cY3LT)
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190 Ok, for those of us in the cheap seats, what the hell is the "Hearst vessel leads" pun? I haven't a clue what it's supposed to mean.
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It's the Horst Wessel Leid. A Nazi anthem.
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It's the Horst Wessel Leid. A Nazi anthem.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:37 AM (dmoiP)
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Bandersnatch, that Y in Ye started out as the Old English theta letter,
"thorn"
When print started in England - Caxton et. al. - the Y was adopted from German type sets to represent it, but eventually it was abandoned as a unique letter
Its use in the 1600s may be an affectation or hold over.
"thorn"
When print started in England - Caxton et. al. - the Y was adopted from German type sets to represent it, but eventually it was abandoned as a unique letter
Its use in the 1600s may be an affectation or hold over.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 11:38 AM (xG/b0)
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Written history begins, roughly, at about 3,000 B.C.
(fragmentary Sumerian and Egyptian records for the first few hundred
years) The linguists who look at the times it takes for language to
evolve, and other clues, suggest that the first great wave of movements
happened betwen 7,000 BC and 3,000 BC.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2019 11:36 AM (V2Yro)
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There was that enormous battlefield discovered in Germany not long ago. Huge numbers of dead, far beyond what anyone thought possible for that time and place.
Maybe R.E. Howard was onto something...
(fragmentary Sumerian and Egyptian records for the first few hundred
years) The linguists who look at the times it takes for language to
evolve, and other clues, suggest that the first great wave of movements
happened betwen 7,000 BC and 3,000 BC.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2019 11:36 AM (V2Yro)
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There was that enormous battlefield discovered in Germany not long ago. Huge numbers of dead, far beyond what anyone thought possible for that time and place.
Maybe R.E. Howard was onto something...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:39 AM (cfSRQ)
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China blinks...
Not a peep about trade on NPR Sunday morning! I wonder if the news editors there enjoy lying, or it's just an automatic reflex? When I think I might be being too harsh, I just think about their opinion of me!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune
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Not only that, but NPR actually has an article up about how midwest farmers are suffering and "tightening their belts"! Not a mention of the sanctions being lifted.
Not a peep about trade on NPR Sunday morning! I wonder if the news editors there enjoy lying, or it's just an automatic reflex? When I think I might be being too harsh, I just think about their opinion of me!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune
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Not only that, but NPR actually has an article up about how midwest farmers are suffering and "tightening their belts"! Not a mention of the sanctions being lifted.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2019 11:39 AM (438dO)
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several years ago, but well past college, i was living in nyc and picked up a copy of the canterbury tales. i was impressed by how much i could understand. i mentioned reading chaucer to my comely neighbor, figuring i'd impress her, too. she then started reciting it in perfect (i think) middle english.
and i think of that as one thing that's impressive about nyc.
and i think of that as one thing that's impressive about nyc.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:40 AM (Pg+x7)
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The language graphic is interesting. It's amazing how daughter languages of Proto-Indo-European came to dominate such a large swath of Europe and India. All from a small population that lived on the steppes in what is now southern Russia, Ukraine and Western Kazakhstan.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (ZYB2s)
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So "Drake" means male duck?
So Sir Francis Drake, international bad*ss for the Queen was named after a duck?
I call BS.
So "Drake" means male duck?
So Sir Francis Drake, international bad*ss for the Queen was named after a duck?
I call BS.
Posted by: Sapwolf at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (PRyLN)
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Ok, for those of us in the cheap seats, what the hell is the "Hearst vessel leads" pun? I haven't a clue what it's supposed to mean.
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It's the Horst Wessel Leid. A Nazi anthem.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:37 AM (dmoiP)
Yes, noted upthread. I did make the mistake of going to Youtube to find it... must admit I have no familiarity with the song, and now that I've played about 30 seconds of it, I fear I shall be inundated with... eh, questionable content, showing up on my recommended feed.
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It's the Horst Wessel Leid. A Nazi anthem.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:37 AM (dmoiP)
Yes, noted upthread. I did make the mistake of going to Youtube to find it... must admit I have no familiarity with the song, and now that I've played about 30 seconds of it, I fear I shall be inundated with... eh, questionable content, showing up on my recommended feed.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cY3LT)
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I've just started Days of Rage, by Bryan Burrough. I finished high school in the late 60's, and was in college and grad school in the 70's. Sam Melville is described as "Patient Zero" in domestic bombings; while he wasn't the first he took it to another level. His partner initially was a young woman "intoxicated" by radical politics. I remember talking to some demonstrators at college; they seemed to be energized by the idea of revolution and couldn't really explain what they were for. Today's radicals seem to be even more intoxicated while even less capable of explaining their cause.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2019 11:43 AM (JK7Jw)
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Bluebell - To much but maybe the first aircraft and WWII German aircraft. The D-Day movie though didn't add anything to what I knew but seeing the area in 3D was a treat as well as the 3D technology. Had to force myself not to duck at the planes flying at me.
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 11:45 AM (ZCEU2)
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There's an Assburger's quality to it. You can watch
ordinary people's eyes glaze over when the subject of Star Trek comes
on, and their robotic retelling of every minute detail... one gets the
sense that if you interrupted them they will throw a tantrum, where they
eat dirt, then poop into their hands, and smear it on the walls.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (cY3LT)
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I think it's also a relic of the pre-internet age, when geeks had to find each other at cons or through newsletters.
Nowadays, fandom is baked into the cake and also considered mainstream. To coin a phrase from the 80s, it's hip to be square.
Star Trek was kind of the ur-text of all of this, but the collapse of the franchise (and all the other franchises like Star Wars) is rendering this sort of thing even more esoteric than it already was.
Time was, the Spock hand sign was like a secret initiation gesture. Now it's met with a shrug. Yeah, that. Whatever.
I enjoyed both TOS and original Star Wars, but as you can see, if I want to geek out about something, actual historical events interest me more than bed-hopping tales from Desilu Studios in 1968.
ordinary people's eyes glaze over when the subject of Star Trek comes
on, and their robotic retelling of every minute detail... one gets the
sense that if you interrupted them they will throw a tantrum, where they
eat dirt, then poop into their hands, and smear it on the walls.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (cY3LT)
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I think it's also a relic of the pre-internet age, when geeks had to find each other at cons or through newsletters.
Nowadays, fandom is baked into the cake and also considered mainstream. To coin a phrase from the 80s, it's hip to be square.
Star Trek was kind of the ur-text of all of this, but the collapse of the franchise (and all the other franchises like Star Wars) is rendering this sort of thing even more esoteric than it already was.
Time was, the Spock hand sign was like a secret initiation gesture. Now it's met with a shrug. Yeah, that. Whatever.
I enjoyed both TOS and original Star Wars, but as you can see, if I want to geek out about something, actual historical events interest me more than bed-hopping tales from Desilu Studios in 1968.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:46 AM (cfSRQ)
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322 Was the 3rd season of Star Trek the one that had the space hippie episode, "Space Bus to Eden" or whatever it was called.
That was the absolute nadir of the show.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (pqyXj)
I wonder whether that was before or after the Lost in Space hippie episode.
That was the absolute nadir of the show.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (pqyXj)
I wonder whether that was before or after the Lost in Space hippie episode.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 11:46 AM (sdi6R)
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Had a quiet week and read the "Dick Prescott at West Point" series of 4 books. Published in 1910-1911, the series devotes a volume to each year of school at the military academy.
Especially reading it all in a row in 3 or 4 days, the series reminded me a bit of the tv serial "24." Every year, there is someone in the protagonist's class who dislikes him and works up some elaborate plot to have him "cut" from the academy, only to have the truth come out in the last 25-30 pages and so the bad guy skulks away in shame. None of the other cadets seem to remember that 12 months beforeDick Prescott was accused of some nefarious deed only to be cleared.
Enjoyable reading and was probably highly exciting to an elementary or jr. high kid 110 years ago.
Especially reading it all in a row in 3 or 4 days, the series reminded me a bit of the tv serial "24." Every year, there is someone in the protagonist's class who dislikes him and works up some elaborate plot to have him "cut" from the academy, only to have the truth come out in the last 25-30 pages and so the bad guy skulks away in shame. None of the other cadets seem to remember that 12 months beforeDick Prescott was accused of some nefarious deed only to be cleared.
Enjoyable reading and was probably highly exciting to an elementary or jr. high kid 110 years ago.
Posted by: StillJohn at September 15, 2019 11:47 AM (gA5ym)
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I think that huge battlefield was the Tollense Valley battlefield. What startled everyone was that it seems the people came from different areas; a gang war where everyone was invited. It was dated to the Bronze Age.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2019 11:48 AM (JK7Jw)
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Lost In Space Talking Carrot Episode > Lost In Space Hippie Episode
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2019 11:48 AM (ZYB2s)
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we are watching ST:TOS first time through
when the space hippies arrived I said "Look - Occupy Spaceship!"
when the space hippies arrived I said "Look - Occupy Spaceship!"
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 11:48 AM (+72t1)
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Also amazed at how they have aircraft cabled up to the roof.
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 11:48 AM (ZCEU2)
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Today's radicals seem to be even more intoxicated while even less capable of explaining their cause.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2019 11:43 AM (JK7Jw)
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They're also less committed to it. They want to LARP being revolutionaries but not do hard time.
Back in the day, hard time was essential to proving one's dedication to The Cause. Now it's totes a drag and mom and dad have to post bail RIGHT NOW.
This is the primary reason why I find the situation annoying but not yet truly alarming.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2019 11:43 AM (JK7Jw)
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They're also less committed to it. They want to LARP being revolutionaries but not do hard time.
Back in the day, hard time was essential to proving one's dedication to The Cause. Now it's totes a drag and mom and dad have to post bail RIGHT NOW.
This is the primary reason why I find the situation annoying but not yet truly alarming.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:49 AM (cfSRQ)
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Skip, I haven't seen the D-Day movie but I can just imagine what it must feel like to see those planes heading right for you.
That museum has a lot to take in.
That museum has a lot to take in.
Posted by: bluebell at September 15, 2019 11:49 AM (aXucN)
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So "Drake" means male duck?
So Sir Francis Drake, international bad*ss for the Queen was named after a duck?
I call BS.
Posted by: Sapwolf at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (PRyLN)
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Drake is also an older English word for dragon, so you can go with that, if you like.
So Sir Francis Drake, international bad*ss for the Queen was named after a duck?
I call BS.
Posted by: Sapwolf at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (PRyLN)
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Drake is also an older English word for dragon, so you can go with that, if you like.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 11:50 AM (iB1oa)
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I believe the traditional greeting between JMC alums is: Who did you have?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:13 AM (cfSRQ)
I lived on the opposite side of Case Hall (my roommate was a transfer to JMC who later chose business school) but recall overhearing snack bar discussions about Cloward Piven Strategies and how they were going to take over the world. Some of these people really seemed to believe they'd soon be on SCOTUS or be Secretary of State. That was in the mid 70s though when kids flocked into political science.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:13 AM (cfSRQ)
I lived on the opposite side of Case Hall (my roommate was a transfer to JMC who later chose business school) but recall overhearing snack bar discussions about Cloward Piven Strategies and how they were going to take over the world. Some of these people really seemed to believe they'd soon be on SCOTUS or be Secretary of State. That was in the mid 70s though when kids flocked into political science.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:50 AM (U7k5w)
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servo: thanks. so the spread of into-european occurred over the past 10,000 years. it doesn't seem like a long time ago. civilization is only 5,000 years old, or so. amazing how man has spread over such a short period, given the geological and even the hundreds of thousands of years of man.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 11:51 AM (Pg+x7)
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Enjoyable reading and was probably highly exciting to an elementary or jr. high kid 110 years ago.
Posted by: StillJohn at September 15, 2019 11:47 AM (gA5ym)
Really, try reading the Tarzan books one right after another.
How many times can Jane get Kidnapped?
Enjoyable reading and was probably highly exciting to an elementary or jr. high kid 110 years ago.
Posted by: StillJohn at September 15, 2019 11:47 AM (gA5ym)
Really, try reading the Tarzan books one right after another.
How many times can Jane get Kidnapped?
Posted by: Don Q at September 15, 2019 11:51 AM (NgKpN)
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TexasMomsforBeto!@texlynnforever
Here is the thing... I don't think you could even eat the meat of an animal killed with a semi automatic weapon. It would be so full of shrapnel.
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Important hunting/food preparation tip.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM
Well, 20mm Oerlikon could be mounted in a reinforced tree stand....
But I still call it faux ignorance trolling.
Hmmm. 20mm mounted on a F350 truck bed for hunting wild pig. Sounds like Texas.
TexasMomsforBeto!@texlynnforever
Here is the thing... I don't think you could even eat the meat of an animal killed with a semi automatic weapon. It would be so full of shrapnel.
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Important hunting/food preparation tip.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 09:41 AM
Well, 20mm Oerlikon could be mounted in a reinforced tree stand....
But I still call it faux ignorance trolling.
Hmmm. 20mm mounted on a F350 truck bed for hunting wild pig. Sounds like Texas.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (e1mEI)
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So "Drake" means male duck?
So Sir Francis Drake, international bad*ss for the Queen was named after a duck?
I call BS.
Posted by: Sapwolf at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (PRyLN)"
In Elizabethan times and earlier, "Drake" could also be a cognate for "Draco", which was from the Latin for Dragon. Tolkien, being a linguist, uses it this way a couple of times. (Fire-Drake)
So Sir Francis Drake, international bad*ss for the Queen was named after a duck?
I call BS.
Posted by: Sapwolf at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (PRyLN)"
In Elizabethan times and earlier, "Drake" could also be a cognate for "Draco", which was from the Latin for Dragon. Tolkien, being a linguist, uses it this way a couple of times. (Fire-Drake)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (V2Yro)
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I lived on the opposite side of Case Hall (my
roommate was a transfer to JMC who later chose business school) but
recall overhearing snack bar discussions about Cloward Piven Strategies
and how they were going to take over the world. Some of these people
really seemed to believe they'd soon be on SCOTUS or be Secretary of
State. That was in the mid 70s though when kids flocked into political
science.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:50 AM (U7k5w)
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Most go into politics, particularly on the state level. There's an alumni association that regularly meets in downtown Lansing. I never go.
I lived on the opposite side of Case Hall (my
roommate was a transfer to JMC who later chose business school) but
recall overhearing snack bar discussions about Cloward Piven Strategies
and how they were going to take over the world. Some of these people
really seemed to believe they'd soon be on SCOTUS or be Secretary of
State. That was in the mid 70s though when kids flocked into political
science.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 11:50 AM (U7k5w)
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Most go into politics, particularly on the state level. There's an alumni association that regularly meets in downtown Lansing. I never go.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (cfSRQ)
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And to see Mercury, Gemini and Apollo capsules, how small they were and to think the astronauts often spent days in a space smaller than my truck is astounding.
https://i.post___.cc/BvxXgGsW/20190914-141238.jpg
Or
https://tinyurl.com/y43s7zct
https://i.post___.cc/BvxXgGsW/20190914-141238.jpg
Or
https://tinyurl.com/y43s7zct
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (ZCEU2)
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" Every year, there is someone in the protagonist's class who dislikes him and works up some elaborate plot to have him "cut" from the academy, only to have the truth come out in the last 25-30 pages and so the bad guy skulks away in shame. None of the other cadets seem to remember that 12 months beforeDick Prescott was accused of some nefarious deed only to be cleared.
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Hmmm. Sounds like the Harry Potter books.
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Hmmm. Sounds like the Harry Potter books.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (iB1oa)
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335
I did make the mistake of going to Youtube to find it... must admit I have no familiarity with the song, and now that I've played about 30 seconds of it, I fear I shall be inundated with... eh, questionable content, showing up on my recommended feed.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cY3LT)
One of us! He's one of us!
I did make the mistake of going to Youtube to find it... must admit I have no familiarity with the song, and now that I've played about 30 seconds of it, I fear I shall be inundated with... eh, questionable content, showing up on my recommended feed.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cY3LT)
One of us! He's one of us!
Posted by: Internet Nazis at September 15, 2019 11:53 AM (sdi6R)
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Really, try reading the Tarzan books one right after another.
How many times can Jane get Kidnapped?
Posted by: Don Q at September 15, 2019 11:51 AM (NgKpN)
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On no! Conan has to save some mostly-nekkid chick! Odd how something like this keeps happening to him. I wonder if his mighty thews will be up to the task?
How many times can Jane get Kidnapped?
Posted by: Don Q at September 15, 2019 11:51 AM (NgKpN)
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On no! Conan has to save some mostly-nekkid chick! Odd how something like this keeps happening to him. I wonder if his mighty thews will be up to the task?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:54 AM (cfSRQ)
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Late to the party, but I agree about Joe Nesbo and his Harry Hole books. Great stuff, and the settings are instructive, if for nothing else the introduction to Scandinavian culture.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2019 11:54 AM (wYseH)
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They don't throw bombs but the social media activists come across to me as more frenzied, determined to prove their importance, and causing in some ways more damage than the old style. Media itself is amplifying it too, more need for self importance in that group too? Too many of them seem to be well off and bored--Bill Ayers certainly wasn't poor and disenfranchised. At least some of today's (as then) seem to be simply acting out for the hell of it.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2019 11:54 AM (JK7Jw)
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i bet burns will say country music comes from black music.
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PBS had a history of bluegrass on a few weeks ago and, you guessed it, it was created by blacks.
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PBS had a history of bluegrass on a few weeks ago and, you guessed it, it was created by blacks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 11:54 AM (+y/Ru)
361
Any aviation museum that is so large that one must actively seek out the Enola Gay, is a pretty large museum.
And it amazingly never feels crowded.
And it amazingly never feels crowded.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 11:55 AM (cqNba)
362
An honest accounting of Country Music would probably be very interesting, b-u-u-u-u-u-ut -
Ken Burns is not an honest broker and he's got an ideological ax to grind so
Hard pass.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:23 AM (pqyXj)
I will pass on Ken Burns' alleged history of country music. It's going to play to the bigotry and prejudice of the coastal elites.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 11:07 AM (zcT9k)
Without knowing anything about this series--but knowing Burn's M.O., the point of this exercise is going to be twofold:
1) Country Music fans are toothless, inbred, stoopid and above all, raycis
But guess what fools, Country Music was REALLY invented by BLACK musicians. What , you didn't know that AP Carter travelled the South collecting songs with his Negro aide? Or that Hank Williams learned everything he knew from a poor, BLACK, blind, itinerant preacher banjo player?
How about that?
2) It's okay, my fellow Northern liberal elitists--you CAN listen to and enjoy Country Music because I've cleansed it of the taint of RACISM. And oh, by the way, did you know that Country Music is actually BLACK music??
Just like Jazz, The Beatles and HIP-HOP!!
Fight me.
Ken Burns is not an honest broker and he's got an ideological ax to grind so
Hard pass.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 11:23 AM (pqyXj)
I will pass on Ken Burns' alleged history of country music. It's going to play to the bigotry and prejudice of the coastal elites.
Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2019 11:07 AM (zcT9k)
Without knowing anything about this series--but knowing Burn's M.O., the point of this exercise is going to be twofold:
1) Country Music fans are toothless, inbred, stoopid and above all, raycis
But guess what fools, Country Music was REALLY invented by BLACK musicians. What , you didn't know that AP Carter travelled the South collecting songs with his Negro aide? Or that Hank Williams learned everything he knew from a poor, BLACK, blind, itinerant preacher banjo player?
How about that?
2) It's okay, my fellow Northern liberal elitists--you CAN listen to and enjoy Country Music because I've cleansed it of the taint of RACISM. And oh, by the way, did you know that Country Music is actually BLACK music??
Just like Jazz, The Beatles and HIP-HOP!!
Fight me.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2019 11:55 AM (NFEMn)
363
One of us! He's one of us!
Posted by: Internet Nazis at September 15, 2019 11:53 AM (sdi6R)
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I thought it was hilarious when Mark Steyn noted that most of the Stormfront members appeared to be RCMP snoops trying to start something.
One of us! He's one of us!
Posted by: Internet Nazis at September 15, 2019 11:53 AM (sdi6R)
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I thought it was hilarious when Mark Steyn noted that most of the Stormfront members appeared to be RCMP snoops trying to start something.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:55 AM (cfSRQ)
364
Can't see a tree mount, truck bed would be best for a Oerlikon
https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=814
https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=814
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 11:56 AM (ZCEU2)
365
Close to finishing "Hitler's Panzers" by Dennis Showalter. More like a rambling essay than conventional history book, which is OK. Kind of "meh" overall, to this point most that's new to me was the WWI and inter-war history of German armored theory and practice. For those with lots of prior knowledge, a bit blah, for those without but with a serious interest, might be bewildering or frustrating [he uses no notes or references].
Posted by: rhomboid at September 15, 2019 11:57 AM (QDnY+)
366
241 I don't know. Seem to be a lot of people in the our educated class who don't really understand or cannot come to grips with the concept of "enemy."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 10:44 AM (H8QX
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They understand the concept just fine, it's their definition that's fcuked up.
Enemy = anyone who does not think exactly like or who does not instantly obey me.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 15, 2019 10:44 AM (H8QX
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They understand the concept just fine, it's their definition that's fcuked up.
Enemy = anyone who does not think exactly like or who does not instantly obey me.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (dmoiP)
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Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:33 AM (cY3LT)
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I think it's also a relic of the pre-internet age, when geeks had to find each other at cons or through newsletters.
Nowadays, fandom is baked into the cake and also considered mainstream. To coin a phrase from the 80s, it's hip to be square.
Star Trek was kind of the ur-text of all of this, but the collapse of the franchise (and all the other franchises like Star Wars) is rendering this sort of thing even more esoteric than it already was.
Time was, the Spock hand sign was like a secret initiation gesture. Now it's met with a shrug. Yeah, that. Whatever.
I enjoyed both TOS and original Star Wars, but as you can see, if I want to geek out about something, actual historical events interest me more than bed-hopping tales from Desilu Studios in 1968.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:46 AM (cfSRQ)
I think it can and does happen though, with "war buffs" and assorted military "experts." People get off on going into details about things the ordinary Joe has no clue about.
There's some one-upsmanship involved, I think.
Sometimes happens with self-proclaimed experts in all fields, I think. "Here, let me show you how much smarter than you I am..."
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I think it's also a relic of the pre-internet age, when geeks had to find each other at cons or through newsletters.
Nowadays, fandom is baked into the cake and also considered mainstream. To coin a phrase from the 80s, it's hip to be square.
Star Trek was kind of the ur-text of all of this, but the collapse of the franchise (and all the other franchises like Star Wars) is rendering this sort of thing even more esoteric than it already was.
Time was, the Spock hand sign was like a secret initiation gesture. Now it's met with a shrug. Yeah, that. Whatever.
I enjoyed both TOS and original Star Wars, but as you can see, if I want to geek out about something, actual historical events interest me more than bed-hopping tales from Desilu Studios in 1968.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:46 AM (cfSRQ)
I think it can and does happen though, with "war buffs" and assorted military "experts." People get off on going into details about things the ordinary Joe has no clue about.
There's some one-upsmanship involved, I think.
Sometimes happens with self-proclaimed experts in all fields, I think. "Here, let me show you how much smarter than you I am..."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (cY3LT)
368
Yes, noted upthread. I did make the mistake of going to Youtube to find it... must admit I have no familiarity with the song, and now that I've played about 30 seconds of it, I fear I shall be inundated with... eh, questionable content, showing up on my recommended feed.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cY3LT)
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I bet I looked at the same clip! "For historical purposes only" my Aunt Fritzi. Now I'm going to be on a list. A Guido List.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cY3LT)
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I bet I looked at the same clip! "For historical purposes only" my Aunt Fritzi. Now I'm going to be on a list. A Guido List.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (aKsyK)
370
For those with lots of prior knowledge, a bit blah, for those without but with a serious interest, might be bewildering or frustrating [he uses no notes or references].
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So basically, not fit for anyone then.
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So basically, not fit for anyone then.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (ZYB2s)
371
If they follow a false charge and wreck an otherwise fine family? No consequences.
If they fail to follow up on real situations and a kid dies? No consequences.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:55 AM (cfSRQ)
Which is why I was surprised to read recently that a couple three child service workers in Southern California are going to stand trial for their egregious failure to prevent the death of a small boy by an abusive guardian. They were supposedly keeping tabs on the situation and one day the boy was killed.
They should've pulled the kid months previous, from all accounts
I'm afraid this is going to produce an exaggerated counter-reaction and social workers are going to start yanking kids out of their families for having mussed up hair. It's either that or face jail time.
If they fail to follow up on real situations and a kid dies? No consequences.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:55 AM (cfSRQ)
Which is why I was surprised to read recently that a couple three child service workers in Southern California are going to stand trial for their egregious failure to prevent the death of a small boy by an abusive guardian. They were supposedly keeping tabs on the situation and one day the boy was killed.
They should've pulled the kid months previous, from all accounts
I'm afraid this is going to produce an exaggerated counter-reaction and social workers are going to start yanking kids out of their families for having mussed up hair. It's either that or face jail time.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 15, 2019 11:59 AM (/FqKO)
372
Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2019 11:55 AM (NFEMn)
line dancing is based on the practice of stomping on slaves
fiddles are drum-phobic
line dancing is based on the practice of stomping on slaves
fiddles are drum-phobic
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 11:59 AM (+72t1)
373
359
They don't throw bombs but the social media activists come across to me
as more frenzied, determined to prove their importance, and causing in
some ways more damage than the old style. Media itself is amplifying it
too, more need for self importance in that group too? Too many of them
seem to be well off and bored--Bill Ayers certainly wasn't poor and
disenfranchised. At least some of today's (as then) seem to be simply
acting out for the hell of it.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2019 11:54 AM (JK7Jw)
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Right, but being a keyboard warrior isn't the same as building a nail bomb in the basement.
Antifa uses the banner of the old Anarchists but has none of their grit or physical courage. One of the universally agreed-upon facts about the Spanish Civil War was that the International Brigades were fanatical in their devotion to The Cause. They took hideous losses and came back for more.
The current mob are mostly LARPers and trolls for rent. Hard to sustain a revolution when you can't put down your i-phone.
They don't throw bombs but the social media activists come across to me
as more frenzied, determined to prove their importance, and causing in
some ways more damage than the old style. Media itself is amplifying it
too, more need for self importance in that group too? Too many of them
seem to be well off and bored--Bill Ayers certainly wasn't poor and
disenfranchised. At least some of today's (as then) seem to be simply
acting out for the hell of it.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2019 11:54 AM (JK7Jw)
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Right, but being a keyboard warrior isn't the same as building a nail bomb in the basement.
Antifa uses the banner of the old Anarchists but has none of their grit or physical courage. One of the universally agreed-upon facts about the Spanish Civil War was that the International Brigades were fanatical in their devotion to The Cause. They took hideous losses and came back for more.
The current mob are mostly LARPers and trolls for rent. Hard to sustain a revolution when you can't put down your i-phone.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:00 PM (cfSRQ)
374
We had been there a few hours but was trying to find my group and a couple was talking and heard the woman ask where the Enola Gay was, I turned around , pointed up and said " right there", she laughed and said thank you. It's not hanging but up on stands.
https://tinyurl.com/y53kqown
The Enola Gay nose
https://tinyurl.com/y53kqown
The Enola Gay nose
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)
375
How do I get rid of 'blue check marks' ...I'm getting annoyed.
Posted by: torabora at September 15, 2019 12:01 PM (S71/C)
376
o "Drake" means male duck?
So Sir Francis Drake, international bad*ss for the Queen was named after a duck?
I call BS.
Posted by: Sapwolf at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (PRyLN)"
In Elizabethan times and earlier, "Drake" could also be a cognate for "Draco", which was from the Latin for Dragon. Tolkien, being a linguist, uses it this way a couple of times. (Fire-Drake)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (V2Yro)
"Frankie Dragone" sounds more bad ass.....
So Sir Francis Drake, international bad*ss for the Queen was named after a duck?
I call BS.
Posted by: Sapwolf at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (PRyLN)"
In Elizabethan times and earlier, "Drake" could also be a cognate for "Draco", which was from the Latin for Dragon. Tolkien, being a linguist, uses it this way a couple of times. (Fire-Drake)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (V2Yro)
"Frankie Dragone" sounds more bad ass.....
Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2019 12:01 PM (NFEMn)
377
PBS had a history of bluegrass on a few weeks ago and, you guessed it, it was created by blacks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 11:54 AM (+y/Ru)
What a load of shit. They can argue that a banjo came from Africa but precious little else. John Sayles had a fascinating vignette in Matewan that pointed out how it was a melding of multiple cultures including African, but to make the NPR claim is unadulterated propaganda.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 11:54 AM (+y/Ru)
What a load of shit. They can argue that a banjo came from Africa but precious little else. John Sayles had a fascinating vignette in Matewan that pointed out how it was a melding of multiple cultures including African, but to make the NPR claim is unadulterated propaganda.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 12:01 PM (y7DUB)
378
I thought it was hilarious when Mark Steyn noted that most of the Stormfront members appeared to be RCMP snoops trying to start something.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:55 AM (cfSRQ)
That's the way it is with the KKK in the USA. Not only is their membership vanishingly small, but every 3rd or 4th member is either an FBI informer or FBI agent.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 11:55 AM (cfSRQ)
That's the way it is with the KKK in the USA. Not only is their membership vanishingly small, but every 3rd or 4th member is either an FBI informer or FBI agent.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 15, 2019 12:02 PM (/FqKO)
379
Spock's hand sign is rabbinical
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 12:02 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 12:02 PM (arJlL)
381
244 Somewhat O/T but as this group has excriciatingly good taste: the Ken Burns documentary about country music starts tonight on PBS stations. I am interested in the topic and hope he does it as well as the Civil War series. His other stuff left me cold. It would be great if it had the equivalent of a Shelby Foote as a guest commenter
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Meh, based on his other stuff you're going to see every black musician associated with country no matter how insignificant. Oh, don't forget wypipo bad.
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Meh, based on his other stuff you're going to see every black musician associated with country no matter how insignificant. Oh, don't forget wypipo bad.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 12:02 PM (dmoiP)
382
And Uncle Tom really wasn't an "Uncle Tom". I'd like to know how that stereotype ever got started.
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I do recall that in the late 60s it became a fad to do so, but I also recall a number of articles disputing the usage. And they were in completely mainstream papers and magazines, by establishment liberals. They all pointed out that people who distorted "Uncle Tom" to involve servile submission either hadn't read it, or couldn't read.
Of course the same thing happened with Huck Finn. Fortunately I went to college at a time it could still be taught.
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I do recall that in the late 60s it became a fad to do so, but I also recall a number of articles disputing the usage. And they were in completely mainstream papers and magazines, by establishment liberals. They all pointed out that people who distorted "Uncle Tom" to involve servile submission either hadn't read it, or couldn't read.
Of course the same thing happened with Huck Finn. Fortunately I went to college at a time it could still be taught.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 15, 2019 12:03 PM (VaN/j)
383
318 ... "JTB, do you have a link for that annotated volume? That's my husband's favorite story. He rereads it every year at Christmas time. I would love to get him this."
Hi bluebell,
Sorry to say the only copies I can find are used and start at about $130 bucks on Amazon. It's been out of print for ten years. It was called "A Christmas Carol: The Author's Personal Prompt Copy, As Scripted and Performed by Charles Dickens" published by Levenger Press. Unless you want to spend that much, try used book stores is my only thought. Wish I had better news.
Hi bluebell,
Sorry to say the only copies I can find are used and start at about $130 bucks on Amazon. It's been out of print for ten years. It was called "A Christmas Carol: The Author's Personal Prompt Copy, As Scripted and Performed by Charles Dickens" published by Levenger Press. Unless you want to spend that much, try used book stores is my only thought. Wish I had better news.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 12:03 PM (bmdz3)
384
372
line dancing is based on the practice of stomping on slaves
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 11:59 AM (+72t1)
Somebody needs to start spreading that meme on Twitter.
line dancing is based on the practice of stomping on slaves
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 11:59 AM (+72t1)
Somebody needs to start spreading that meme on Twitter.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2019 12:04 PM (sdi6R)
385
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cY3LT)
One of us! He's one of us!
Posted by: Internet Nazis at September 15, 2019 11:53 AM (sdi6R)
Noooooo! The worst (or is that horst?) are the Illinois internet nazis. Hate those guys.
One of us! He's one of us!
Posted by: Internet Nazis at September 15, 2019 11:53 AM (sdi6R)
Noooooo! The worst (or is that horst?) are the Illinois internet nazis. Hate those guys.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 12:04 PM (cY3LT)
386
line dancing is based on the practice of stomping on slaves
fiddles are drum-phobic
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 11:59 AM (+72t1
Actually, line dancing is based on "the cakewalk" which slaves invented to amuse their masters who would also then whip them for the amusement of their guests.
fiddles are just what violins are called when blacks and 'po white trash play them....
fiddles are drum-phobic
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 11:59 AM (+72t1
Actually, line dancing is based on "the cakewalk" which slaves invented to amuse their masters who would also then whip them for the amusement of their guests.
fiddles are just what violins are called when blacks and 'po white trash play them....
Posted by: Ken Burns Probably at September 15, 2019 12:04 PM (NFEMn)
387
220 Yes I think I will read it. There's lots of nice pictures, one of them at a White House event with Jackie and JFK.
Posted by: kallisto
(Trudges back to 220- "Oh, the humitidity !)
Posted by: kallisto
(Trudges back to 220- "Oh, the humitidity !)
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 12:04 PM (arJlL)
388
Spock's hand sign is rabbinical
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 12:02 PM (U7k5w)\\
Lol, what did you expect? A Papal hand sign??
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 12:02 PM (U7k5w)\\
Lol, what did you expect? A Papal hand sign??
Posted by: Leonard Nimoy at September 15, 2019 12:06 PM (NFEMn)
389
Jesus was a Vulcan...
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:06 PM (+72t1)
390
As to why "Uncle Tom" became a declaration of knee-bending love of the owner, it was because of southern productions (abominations really) for the stage. Doing their best rewrite of history to show how good the plantations were being to offer these ignorant, benighted folks work and a hand to enlightenment.
Posted by: Captain Comic at September 15, 2019 12:06 PM (SLahG)
391
I think it can and does happen though, with "war
buffs" and assorted military "experts." People get off on going into
details about things the ordinary Joe has no clue about.
There's some one-upsmanship involved, I think.
Sometimes happens with self-proclaimed experts in all fields, I
think. "Here, let me show you how much smarter than you I am..."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (cY3LT)
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Yes, but that's actual knowledge of history or cars or whatever.
Trek fandom was about a TV show, and not a very popular one at that.
There's a world of difference (to me at least) between "This is my grandfather's victory medal" and "check out this napkin with Bill Shatner's signature on it."
buffs" and assorted military "experts." People get off on going into
details about things the ordinary Joe has no clue about.
There's some one-upsmanship involved, I think.
Sometimes happens with self-proclaimed experts in all fields, I
think. "Here, let me show you how much smarter than you I am..."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (cY3LT)
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Yes, but that's actual knowledge of history or cars or whatever.
Trek fandom was about a TV show, and not a very popular one at that.
There's a world of difference (to me at least) between "This is my grandfather's victory medal" and "check out this napkin with Bill Shatner's signature on it."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:08 PM (cfSRQ)
392
Sorry to say the only copies I can find are used and start at about $130 bucks on Amazon. It's been out of print for ten years. It was called "A Christmas Carol: The Author's Personal Prompt Copy, As Scripted and Performed by Charles Dickens" published by Levenger Press. Unless you want to spend that much, try used book stores is my only thought. Wish I had better news.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 12:03 PM (bmdz3)
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Ah, thank you. I shall keep my eye peeled.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 12:03 PM (bmdz3)
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Ah, thank you. I shall keep my eye peeled.
Posted by: bluebell at September 15, 2019 12:08 PM (aXucN)
393
Somewhat O/T but as this group has excriciatingly good taste: the Ken Burns documentary about country music starts tonight on PBS stations. I am interested in the topic and hope he does it as well as the Civil War series. His other stuff left me cold. It would be great if it had the equivalent of a Shelby Foote as a guest commenter
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Meh, based on his other stuff you're going to see every black musician associated with country no matter how insignificant. Oh, don't forget wypipo bad.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 12:02 PM (dmoiP)
And you'll wait about 7 episodes to hear anything that has any connection with your local flavor, and it'll be about 30 seconds of coverage of Stan Musial. And how he liked to play the harmonica. And how awful it was for Dodgers and Giants pitchers (with a couple WS experiences for Yankees pitchers) to have to face him.
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Meh, based on his other stuff you're going to see every black musician associated with country no matter how insignificant. Oh, don't forget wypipo bad.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 12:02 PM (dmoiP)
And you'll wait about 7 episodes to hear anything that has any connection with your local flavor, and it'll be about 30 seconds of coverage of Stan Musial. And how he liked to play the harmonica. And how awful it was for Dodgers and Giants pitchers (with a couple WS experiences for Yankees pitchers) to have to face him.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 12:09 PM (cY3LT)
394
353: Don't blame you. I lived in actual Lansing one summer and didn't repeat the experience.
As for Case, I liked the proximity to the IMs (swimming and saunas) and not having a community bathroom. When I decided to go there, I wrote South Complex on my housing preference forms. My brother's digs at UofM were the dregs.
As for Case, I liked the proximity to the IMs (swimming and saunas) and not having a community bathroom. When I decided to go there, I wrote South Complex on my housing preference forms. My brother's digs at UofM were the dregs.
Posted by: CN at September 15, 2019 12:09 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 15, 2019 12:09 PM (aKsyK)
396
Since he's incapable of not seeing things as primarily racial in nature, I'm surprised he's even interested in country
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Rest assured, after he's done it will be.
And he'll be celebrated for it by the usual liars.
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Rest assured, after he's done it will be.
And he'll be celebrated for it by the usual liars.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 15, 2019 12:10 PM (dmoiP)
397
I'm out of reading material.
Currently re-reading "Colony," by Anne Rivers Siddons.
I've got partway through it and remembered I don't particularly like the story.
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison
I'll drop off a load of books in your driveway.
Currently re-reading "Colony," by Anne Rivers Siddons.
I've got partway through it and remembered I don't particularly like the story.
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison
I'll drop off a load of books in your driveway.
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 12:10 PM (arJlL)
398
What a load of shit. They can argue that a banjo came from Africa but precious little else. John Sayles had a fascinating vignette in Matewan that pointed out how it was a melding of multiple cultures including African, but to make the NPR claim is unadulterated propaganda.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 12:01 PM (y7DUB)
I hate that shit. Yes, blacks contributed heavily to all American music forms --and that should be noted--and it ALWAYS is.
But to pretend that no one else had anything to do with it is just as bad as pretending that Slavery "built" this country--when all they did was work farms and plantations.
What a load of shit. They can argue that a banjo came from Africa but precious little else. John Sayles had a fascinating vignette in Matewan that pointed out how it was a melding of multiple cultures including African, but to make the NPR claim is unadulterated propaganda.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2019 12:01 PM (y7DUB)
I hate that shit. Yes, blacks contributed heavily to all American music forms --and that should be noted--and it ALWAYS is.
But to pretend that no one else had anything to do with it is just as bad as pretending that Slavery "built" this country--when all they did was work farms and plantations.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2019 12:10 PM (NFEMn)
399
389 Jesus was a Vulcan...
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:06 PM (+72t1)
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That's only in one of those sketchy non-canonical gospels that cropped up in the second century or so. The Gospel of Sarek IIRC.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:06 PM (+72t1)
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That's only in one of those sketchy non-canonical gospels that cropped up in the second century or so. The Gospel of Sarek IIRC.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2019 12:11 PM (ZYB2s)
400
Still not feeling well, I've continued reading Orwell's essays. One, relevant to Uncle Tom's Cabin, is about Helen's Babies, another 19th C American book. (My wife has read it; I haven't. But she is a speed reader by nature; never trained for it, she just reads like lightning.)
But he's really talking of the popularity, in England, of American books from the Civil War. He has an interesting take on the contrast between the Western fiction (Twain, Harte) and the Eastern (Alcott, for example.) In the latter, a Jane Austinesque society seems to have survived later than in England, while of course the former had Brit equivalents only much earlier. (But then, the age of Highwaymen extended almost to Austin's day.)
It's online, the title is "Riding Down from Bangor".
https://tinyurl.com/y4ss24q9
But he's really talking of the popularity, in England, of American books from the Civil War. He has an interesting take on the contrast between the Western fiction (Twain, Harte) and the Eastern (Alcott, for example.) In the latter, a Jane Austinesque society seems to have survived later than in England, while of course the former had Brit equivalents only much earlier. (But then, the age of Highwaymen extended almost to Austin's day.)
It's online, the title is "Riding Down from Bangor".
https://tinyurl.com/y4ss24q9
Posted by: Eeyore at September 15, 2019 12:12 PM (VaN/j)
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Sometimes happens with self-proclaimed experts in all fields, I think. "Here, let me show you how much smarter than you I am..."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (cY3LT)
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Yes, but that's actual knowledge of history or cars or whatever.
Trek fandom was about a TV show, and not a very popular one at that.
There's a world of difference (to me at least) between "This is my grandfather's victory medal" and "check out this napkin with Bill Shatner's signature on it."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:08 PM (cfSRQ)
Yes, but there's also a world of difference between "here's my grandfather's war medals," and "let me tell you everything I know in excruciating detail about the battle of Manassas, or as you Yankees call it, Bull Run."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 11:58 AM (cY3LT)
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Yes, but that's actual knowledge of history or cars or whatever.
Trek fandom was about a TV show, and not a very popular one at that.
There's a world of difference (to me at least) between "This is my grandfather's victory medal" and "check out this napkin with Bill Shatner's signature on it."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:08 PM (cfSRQ)
Yes, but there's also a world of difference between "here's my grandfather's war medals," and "let me tell you everything I know in excruciating detail about the battle of Manassas, or as you Yankees call it, Bull Run."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 12:12 PM (cY3LT)
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I may start pruning my books soon out of necessity
I was just going to dump them at a goodwill or something
but maybe I should check if the horde wants any old stuff
I was just going to dump them at a goodwill or something
but maybe I should check if the horde wants any old stuff
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:12 PM (+72t1)
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I think it's the current results of the i-phone brigade because of the limp reaction of the so-called authorities that makes it seem worse to me with less reason to do so. I remember much more freedom of speech with far more groups of all stripes in college/grad school, with speakers of all stripes actually allowed to speak.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2019 12:14 PM (JK7Jw)
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Jesus was a Vulcan...
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:06 PM (+72t1)
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That's only in one of those sketchy non-canonical gospels that cropped up in the second century or so. The Gospel of Sarek IIRC.
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With the parable of the Good Romulan.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:06 PM (+72t1)
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That's only in one of those sketchy non-canonical gospels that cropped up in the second century or so. The Gospel of Sarek IIRC.
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With the parable of the Good Romulan.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 12:15 PM (+y/Ru)
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Leftism telling history is like oil and water, reality and myth don't mix.
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 12:15 PM (ZCEU2)
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392 ... bluebell, You have an email awaiting your perusal.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 12:15 PM (bmdz3)
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So I clicked to the bottom to make a comment and there are already 340 comments. I will say it anyway. The pants look like they're made of rag rugs from back in the day. And some books I read numerous times. I probably read Jane Eyre at least 5 times just in sixth grade.
Posted by: AlmostYuman at September 15, 2019 12:16 PM (0B0xY)
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Yes, but there's also a world of difference between
"here's my grandfather's war medals," and "let me tell you everything I
know in excruciating detail about the battle of Manassas, or as you
Yankees call it, Bull Run."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 12:12 PM (cY3LT)
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My point stands.
Bull Run is an actual battlefield. Immersing yourself in its lore can be useful to understand what America was and how we became what we are.
Knowing that Nichelle Nichols slept with Gene Roddenberry and almost quit the show tells you...what, exactly?
Trekkers combine autistic mono-mania with utter irrelevance.
That guy who drones on about Bull Run (and I know people like that, hell I AM someone like that) at least might know something relevant.
"here's my grandfather's war medals," and "let me tell you everything I
know in excruciating detail about the battle of Manassas, or as you
Yankees call it, Bull Run."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2019 12:12 PM (cY3LT)
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My point stands.
Bull Run is an actual battlefield. Immersing yourself in its lore can be useful to understand what America was and how we became what we are.
Knowing that Nichelle Nichols slept with Gene Roddenberry and almost quit the show tells you...what, exactly?
Trekkers combine autistic mono-mania with utter irrelevance.
That guy who drones on about Bull Run (and I know people like that, hell I AM someone like that) at least might know something relevant.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:17 PM (cfSRQ)
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397 I'm out of reading material.
Currently re-reading "Colony," by Anne Rivers Siddons.
I've got partway through it and remembered I don't particularly like the story.
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison
I'll drop off a load of books in your driveway.
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 12:10 PM (arJlL)
After my husband died and I downsized by 2/3, I dismantled our library and disposed of 90 percent of my books. I now have a decent childrens' library on the second floor, but I'm NOT acquiring more books!!!
Currently re-reading "Colony," by Anne Rivers Siddons.
I've got partway through it and remembered I don't particularly like the story.
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison
I'll drop off a load of books in your driveway.
Posted by: JT at September 15, 2019 12:10 PM (arJlL)
After my husband died and I downsized by 2/3, I dismantled our library and disposed of 90 percent of my books. I now have a decent childrens' library on the second floor, but I'm NOT acquiring more books!!!
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at September 15, 2019 12:17 PM (P96Ys)
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michael j. pollard was 27 years old when he played a pre-adolescent on star trek, the episode where kirk et al beam down to a planet where a disease strikes down adults at puberty.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 12:18 PM (Pg+x7)
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ladyl, that's what public libraries are for
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:20 PM (+72t1)
412
With the parable of the Good Romulan.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 12:15 PM (+y/Ru)
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"Let he who is without negative social credits, fire the first phaser."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2019 12:15 PM (+y/Ru)
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"Let he who is without negative social credits, fire the first phaser."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2019 12:20 PM (ZYB2s)
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411 ladyl, that's what public libraries are for
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:20 PM (+72t1)
I download almost all of my reading material from the online public library system now!
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at September 15, 2019 12:20 PM (+72t1)
I download almost all of my reading material from the online public library system now!
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at September 15, 2019 12:22 PM (P96Ys)
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*mournful violin plays*
*Close up of written letter*
*voice over*
My Dearest Martha,
As you know, I have been searching for an alternative to the traditional musical bands of the poor Appalachian whites,
consisting as they do of oboe, coconut shells, piccolo, and kettle drum.
Until today, I despaired of ever finding such.
However, while eating breakfast, I heard my Black Slave, Jacob, playing this very same music on an African stringed instrument called a "banjo".
Well, my Dearest! It was a revelation. So melodious and joyful!
I now believe that we Americans can have our own music! Much like the European's have the minuet!
Of course, I had to beat Jacob with a horsewhip for showing up his White Master.
And he died later that day.
But, I shall never forget his joyful "banjo" playing and his impudence. Especially, his impudence.
Yours Truly,
Horace Torquemada Whippington
*more mournful violin*
*mournful violin plays*
*Close up of written letter*
*voice over*
My Dearest Martha,
As you know, I have been searching for an alternative to the traditional musical bands of the poor Appalachian whites,
consisting as they do of oboe, coconut shells, piccolo, and kettle drum.
Until today, I despaired of ever finding such.
However, while eating breakfast, I heard my Black Slave, Jacob, playing this very same music on an African stringed instrument called a "banjo".
Well, my Dearest! It was a revelation. So melodious and joyful!
I now believe that we Americans can have our own music! Much like the European's have the minuet!
Of course, I had to beat Jacob with a horsewhip for showing up his White Master.
And he died later that day.
But, I shall never forget his joyful "banjo" playing and his impudence. Especially, his impudence.
Yours Truly,
Horace Torquemada Whippington
*more mournful violin*
Posted by: Ken Burn's "Country Music" at September 15, 2019 12:22 PM (pqyXj)
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After my husband died and I downsized by 2/3, I dismantled our library and disposed of 90 percent of my books. I now have a decent childrens' library on the second floor, but I'm NOT acquiring more books!!!
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at September 15, 2019 12:17 PM (P96Ys)
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Hahahahaha....
Tell me another one!
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at September 15, 2019 12:17 PM (P96Ys)
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Hahahahaha....
Tell me another one!
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 15, 2019 12:22 PM (WEBkv)
416
Leftism telling history is like oil and water, reality and myth don't mix.
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 12:15 PM (ZCEU2)
But the PAY sure is good....
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2019 12:15 PM (ZCEU2)
But the PAY sure is good....
Posted by: Zombie Howard Zinn at September 15, 2019 12:22 PM (NFEMn)
417
410
michael j. pollard was 27 years old when he played a pre-adolescent on
star trek, the episode where kirk et al beam down to a planet where a
disease strikes down adults at puberty.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 12:18 PM (Pg+x7)
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Good to know.
To refine my point: As Ed Driscoll admits, pretty much all that can be known about Star Trek TOS is known. And there isn't actually that much to know in the first place. The topic is pretty mundane and even the creative minds were mostly cranking out pulp for a paycheck.
Similarly, the World Building aspect of all legacy sci-fi is now a total hash, with "canon" being re-re-re-written at will. It's like the Soviet Encyclopedia at this point.
Hard to get excited about that kind of thing any more.
michael j. pollard was 27 years old when he played a pre-adolescent on
star trek, the episode where kirk et al beam down to a planet where a
disease strikes down adults at puberty.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 15, 2019 12:18 PM (Pg+x7)
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Good to know.
To refine my point: As Ed Driscoll admits, pretty much all that can be known about Star Trek TOS is known. And there isn't actually that much to know in the first place. The topic is pretty mundane and even the creative minds were mostly cranking out pulp for a paycheck.
Similarly, the World Building aspect of all legacy sci-fi is now a total hash, with "canon" being re-re-re-written at will. It's like the Soviet Encyclopedia at this point.
Hard to get excited about that kind of thing any more.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:25 PM (cfSRQ)
418
Import NOOD..
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at September 15, 2019 12:26 PM (qFllo)
419
There's a world of difference (to me at least) between "This is my grandfather's victory medal" and "check out this napkin with Bill Shatner's signature on it."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:08 PM (cfSRQ)
I believe this argument can be settled by getting Bill Shatner to autograph your grandfather's victory medal.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:08 PM (cfSRQ)
I believe this argument can be settled by getting Bill Shatner to autograph your grandfather's victory medal.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pqyXj)
420
354 ... "And to see Mercury, Gemini and Apollo capsules, how small they were"
Skip, You're telling me. I was in mid-teens, part way through the Gemini program, when I realized I had outgrown the space capsules. Bummer.
Skip, You're telling me. I was in mid-teens, part way through the Gemini program, when I realized I had outgrown the space capsules. Bummer.
Posted by: JTB at September 15, 2019 12:27 PM (bmdz3)
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24 I just began flipping through Moon: An Illustrated History by David Warmflash. Dang but those ancient Greeks were smart. Here's how Aristarchus managed to roughly measure the moon's diameter and distance:
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:10 AM (kQs4Y)
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Interesting. But he does flub a bit about "almost everybody thought the earth was flat." It's pretty clear if you read the Phaedo that it was an open question at the time Socrates died. He thought it round. While he may have been in the minority, it's not treated as a weird idea.
He also, in saying so, gives a bit of a description of the balls used in gymnasium.
Another note from the dialogue is that the ending was obviously copied by Conan Doyle in "The Final Problem". I wouldn't call it plagiarism; virtually every educated Brit of the day would know what he was doing.
(Ediited for pixie.)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 15, 2019 09:10 AM (kQs4Y)
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Interesting. But he does flub a bit about "almost everybody thought the earth was flat." It's pretty clear if you read the Phaedo that it was an open question at the time Socrates died. He thought it round. While he may have been in the minority, it's not treated as a weird idea.
He also, in saying so, gives a bit of a description of the balls used in gymnasium.
Another note from the dialogue is that the ending was obviously copied by Conan Doyle in "The Final Problem". I wouldn't call it plagiarism; virtually every educated Brit of the day would know what he was doing.
(Ediited for pixie.)
Posted by: Eeyore at September 15, 2019 12:27 PM (VaN/j)
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I believe this argument can be settled by getting Bill Shatner to autograph your grandfather's victory medal.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pqyXj)
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Getting Leonard Nimoy to do it would be even more impressive, though.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pqyXj)
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Getting Leonard Nimoy to do it would be even more impressive, though.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:28 PM (cfSRQ)
423
One of the villains in Uncle Tom's Cabin is named Simon LeGree, which would be a much better epithet in my opinion.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 15, 2019 12:28 PM (LxTcq)
424
1984
Fahrenheit 451
Animal Farm
and now
Uncle Tom's Cabin?
The list of books I should read continues to grow.
What other "musts" are there?
All the King's Men?
Elmer Gantry?
Pride and Prejudice (my wife's favorite)?
No guarantees that I'll ever get to any of these, but I need something more to make me feel guilty.
In the meantime: Perry Mason, Nero Wolfe. Parker, Retief, Steve Canyon, and Astro City. Plus assorted Ludlum, Deighton, MacLean, and Leonard novels, among others.
Fahrenheit 451
Animal Farm
and now
Uncle Tom's Cabin?
The list of books I should read continues to grow.
What other "musts" are there?
All the King's Men?
Elmer Gantry?
Pride and Prejudice (my wife's favorite)?
No guarantees that I'll ever get to any of these, but I need something more to make me feel guilty.
In the meantime: Perry Mason, Nero Wolfe. Parker, Retief, Steve Canyon, and Astro City. Plus assorted Ludlum, Deighton, MacLean, and Leonard novels, among others.
Posted by: Weak Geek at September 15, 2019 12:30 PM (PWPy3)
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One of the villains in Uncle Tom's Cabin is named Simon LeGree, which would be a much better epithet in my opinion.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 15, 2019 12:28 PM (LxTcq)
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All I know about Uncle Tom's Cabin is from the Thai performance in "The King and I."
"Run, Eliza, run! Run from Simon of LeGree!"
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 15, 2019 12:28 PM (LxTcq)
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All I know about Uncle Tom's Cabin is from the Thai performance in "The King and I."
"Run, Eliza, run! Run from Simon of LeGree!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:30 PM (cfSRQ)
426
All I know about Uncle Tom's Cabin is from the Thai performance in "The King and I."
"Run, Eliza, run! Run from Simon of LeGree!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:30 PM (cfSRQ)
It's comforting to know I'm not the only one.
"Run, Eliza, run! Run from Simon of LeGree!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:30 PM (cfSRQ)
It's comforting to know I'm not the only one.
Posted by: hogmartin will be sad if you don't register for the fall MIMoMe at September 15, 2019 12:50 PM (t+qrx)
427
I've come to respect the Guardian, and in general respect British publications more than virtually anything printed in the US. NY Post and a dwindling few outliers excepted.
Sure they have their cadre of drooling knee-jerk leftists, but I've come to know who they are and side-step their pot-holes of insanity and self-loathing. Many other writer's articles and arguments are well written and offer opinions that are not boiler-plate.
I've come to respect the Guardian, and in general respect British publications more than virtually anything printed in the US. NY Post and a dwindling few outliers excepted.
Sure they have their cadre of drooling knee-jerk leftists, but I've come to know who they are and side-step their pot-holes of insanity and self-loathing. Many other writer's articles and arguments are well written and offer opinions that are not boiler-plate.
Posted by: Matthew Slater at September 15, 2019 12:57 PM (kk8TL)
428
I can't respect Al Guardian, but Daily Mail is a daily stop for me.
Posted by: Rusty Nail, camping at September 15, 2019 01:09 PM (sXovo)
429
Getting Leonard Nimoy to do it would be even more impressive, though.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:28 PM (cfSRQ)
You want: Leonard Nimoy from beyond the grave.
You'll settle for: Bill Shatner
You'll get: George Takei insulting both of them while waving his hand-woven macrame man-purse.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 12:28 PM (cfSRQ)
You want: Leonard Nimoy from beyond the grave.
You'll settle for: Bill Shatner
You'll get: George Takei insulting both of them while waving his hand-woven macrame man-purse.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 15, 2019 01:11 PM (/FqKO)
430
@428 and at least they post pics of Melania
Posted by: artemis at September 15, 2019 01:51 PM (AwPyG)
431
You should see Bill's man Cave.
Posted by: Quilp at September 15, 2019 01:54 PM (Bf3hj)
432
Well, 20mm Oerlikon could be mounted in a reinforced tree stand....
But I still call it faux ignorance trolling.
Hmmm. 20mm mounted on a F350 truck bed for hunting wild pig. Sounds like Texas.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (e1mEI)
Surely there is a need for claymore mines for pigs, right?
"This Side Towards Sausage"
But I still call it faux ignorance trolling.
Hmmm. 20mm mounted on a F350 truck bed for hunting wild pig. Sounds like Texas.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 15, 2019 11:52 AM (e1mEI)
Surely there is a need for claymore mines for pigs, right?
"This Side Towards Sausage"
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 02:03 PM (xG/b0)
433
Maybe start referring to the Blue Checkmarks as the "Blue Waffle-marks"
When the affected people start looking it up, however . . .
When the affected people start looking it up, however . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2019 02:13 PM (xG/b0)
Posted by: Weak Geek at September 15, 2019 02:46 PM (zbyVY)
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Just downloaded on Kindle Fire (Overdrive through our local library) eBook Say Nothing by Brad Parks. I hope it's good.
I think someone asked if library books can be downloaded to laptop or other devices. Our Loudoun County Virginia library has a lending program on Overdrive. They offer both ebooks and Kindle books which I download using Overdrive app on Kindle Fire. Our library also has Hoopla (books, music, and movies) and Kanopy (movies). Check out your library's lending programs. You might find something interesting.
I think someone asked if library books can be downloaded to laptop or other devices. Our Loudoun County Virginia library has a lending program on Overdrive. They offer both ebooks and Kindle books which I download using Overdrive app on Kindle Fire. Our library also has Hoopla (books, music, and movies) and Kanopy (movies). Check out your library's lending programs. You might find something interesting.
Posted by: Oggi at September 15, 2019 03:57 PM (Bk5Q+)
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I'm working on Samuel Huntington's The Clash of Civilizations and am finding it much more insightful and fascinating than I expected. It caused a splash in the '90s for defining the post-Cold War world, and conservatives lauded it after 9/11 for its positing of a West-vs.-Islam confrontation. Lately the Left has been dismissing it for being "Islamophobic," which is totally unfair.
Huntington divides the worlds into nine civilizations that may share some cultural trappings -- music, literature, fashions, etc. -- but remain thoroughly distinct from each other on a basic level. They don't change, at least not easily, even if one civilization is conquered by another. (Interestingly, Huntington counts Latin America as a separate civilization even though he puts Spain and Portugal in the Western camp.)
While American policy makers supposedly studied the book, they missed a key point Huntington makes about Islam's total historic antipathy to democracy. Had they grasped that point, America could have saved a lot of blood and treasure by avoiding its misadventures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Huntington divides the worlds into nine civilizations that may share some cultural trappings -- music, literature, fashions, etc. -- but remain thoroughly distinct from each other on a basic level. They don't change, at least not easily, even if one civilization is conquered by another. (Interestingly, Huntington counts Latin America as a separate civilization even though he puts Spain and Portugal in the Western camp.)
While American policy makers supposedly studied the book, they missed a key point Huntington makes about Islam's total historic antipathy to democracy. Had they grasped that point, America could have saved a lot of blood and treasure by avoiding its misadventures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by: Outside Adjitator at September 15, 2019 04:48 PM (NvFiZ)
437
@309 --
Good Gawd, what a horrendous headline.
"Possible human remains found."
Why mention police? They'll investigate; that's their job. Unnecessary filler. No need for detail about the wrapping needed, because it's confusing.
I say this without having read the story. Surely some more intriguing details are available if needed to meet hed count.
The internet ruined headline writing. Damn shame.
I never liked such stories. More than once, "possible human remains" -- and why not just say "bones"? -- were from an animal.
Good Gawd, what a horrendous headline.
"Possible human remains found."
Why mention police? They'll investigate; that's their job. Unnecessary filler. No need for detail about the wrapping needed, because it's confusing.
I say this without having read the story. Surely some more intriguing details are available if needed to meet hed count.
The internet ruined headline writing. Damn shame.
I never liked such stories. More than once, "possible human remains" -- and why not just say "bones"? -- were from an animal.
Posted by: Weak Geek at September 15, 2019 05:07 PM (zbyVY)
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When I was a young guy (not twenty-nine) I worked with an old guy who was a carpenter who helped build the Hearst Castle.
He related that the swimming pool was dug by hand.
There was a dirt ramp that extended down into and up out of the excavation.
At the top of the ramp the laborer foreman stood with a clipboard with the names of each of the laborers on it. The laborer foreman placed a check mark by the name of the labor each time he exited the excavation.
At the end of the day the laborer with the fewest check marks by his name was fired and a new laborer was hired from the many unemployed men waiting for an opening.
He related that the swimming pool was dug by hand.
There was a dirt ramp that extended down into and up out of the excavation.
At the top of the ramp the laborer foreman stood with a clipboard with the names of each of the laborers on it. The laborer foreman placed a check mark by the name of the labor each time he exited the excavation.
At the end of the day the laborer with the fewest check marks by his name was fired and a new laborer was hired from the many unemployed men waiting for an opening.
Posted by: Waepnedmann at September 15, 2019 05:35 PM (aKmJ5)
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sorry I am late but Boulder's annual Jaipur book festival is next weekend :
calendar.boulderlibrary.org/event/4292395
calendar.boulderlibrary.org/event/4292395
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 15, 2019 08:29 PM (ykYG2)
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they missed a key point Huntington makes about Islam's total historic antipathy to democracy
Shared with the Orthodox Church, and with the Catholics along the Mediterranean. And with me. And with the American Founders, who tried to install a Republic.
Shared with the Orthodox Church, and with the Catholics along the Mediterranean. And with me. And with the American Founders, who tried to install a Republic.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 15, 2019 08:31 PM (ykYG2)
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Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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