Mid-Morning Art Thread

van Djick Isaac.jpg


Isaac Blessing Jacob
Abraham van Dijck

This is a fine example of why art is so much fun. I had never heard of this guy, and neither did WikiArt (no surprise), but a little poking around yielded some very fine work.

Is it great? Well...no. Jacob looks like he was painted 300 years later by N.C. Wyeth. But it's interesting to look at, and his other works are as good, if not better. van Dijck was presumably a pupil of Rembrandt, and even to this ignorant viewer the connection is clear.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 Shhh. I'm hunting wabbits.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 09:31 AM (4i8PS)

2 I got nothing.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:31 AM (wHJ0y)

3 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:32 AM (wHJ0y)

4 Where's my sammich???

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 09, 2019 09:33 AM (cqNba)

5 Mom saying do tell your dad its folders Chrystals

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 09:34 AM (JFO2v)

6 That's pretty good.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 09:34 AM (hLRSq)

7 I'm surprised Rebekah's rouse worked.

Posted by: Kris at September 09, 2019 09:34 AM (OyyDO)

8 5 DO NOT

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 09:34 AM (JFO2v)

9 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:35 AM (iikV8)

10 7 I'm surprised Rebekah's rouse worked.
Posted by: Kris at September 09, 2019 09:34 AM (OyyDO)

ha they fleeced the old man

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 09:35 AM (JFO2v)

11 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:36 AM (wHJ0y)

12 Isaac was a recovering lobotomy patient?

Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2019 09:36 AM (yL25O)

13 Composition is poor.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 09:37 AM (oVJmc)

14 "You hush yo' mouf, boy. Pay attention, you's being blessed."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 09:38 AM (HaL55)

15 Isaac was a recovering lobotomy patient?
Posted by: SMOD


I was going to ask. Is that a cap or a bandage?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:38 AM (wHJ0y)

16 Looks like a hat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 09, 2019 09:39 AM (r/SK5)

17 "You hush yo' mouf, boy. Pay attention, you's being blessed."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy



Lay on the hands, grandpa! Lay on the hands!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:39 AM (wHJ0y)

18 TBF, jacob could be a bit of a Dijck. And this isn't art.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:39 AM (CPk08)

19 Don't know the story. Is Jacob going off to war or hunting? Shirt does not seem the best choice for archery in either case.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at September 09, 2019 09:39 AM (B06Zw)

20 Isaac: Where's my favorite son?

[Jacob places hand near his father's]

Isaac: Rebecca, you need to shave your pooter, but let's not have any of that now, I need to bless Esau.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2019 09:39 AM (cY3LT)

21 Gandalf shares a story

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at September 09, 2019 09:41 AM (oAY8z)

22 19 Don't know the story. Is Jacob going off to war or hunting? Shirt does not seem the best choice for archery in either case.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at September 09, 2019 09:39 AM (B06Zw)

So Jacob and his mom scheme to get his elder brother's blessing by pretending he is the hairy elder brother Esau. The father is blind, which helps the ruse, his odd shoulder bits are to make him seem hairy. The food is what his father asked him to hunt(but his mother procured iirc).

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 09:41 AM (4i8PS)

23 "The secret is to buy low and sell high, son."
"Dad, I'm over here."

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 09:42 AM (VJZgq)

24 Who broke the comments?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:42 AM (6NpxV)

25 Good morning!
Let's be happy and thankful and kind.

It's the Moron way!

Oh wait...

Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 09, 2019 09:42 AM (PkVlr)

26 looks kinda casual ... Isaac was eating while watching TV, Jacob walks in from the hunt ... Isaac says "OK, Bless you, now hand me my wine"

That furry glove with finger tips exposed is interesting ... on Jacob's right hand.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2019 09:43 AM (Cus5s)

27 25
Good morning!

Let's be happy and thankful and kind.



It's the Moron way!



Oh wait...

Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 09, 2019 09:42 AM (PkVlr)


WTF?

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:43 AM (CPk08)

28 There we was, me and Davy........

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2019 09:44 AM (88+cf)

29 BTW, where is everyone?

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:44 AM (CPk08)

30 Wait! come back I was going to make espresso!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 09:45 AM (JFO2v)

31 29 BTW, where is everyone?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:44 AM (CPk0

=========

They saw no trees, assumed there was no art, and dissipated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:45 AM (iikV8)

32 Jacob was a sneaky little shit like his pal Niedermeyer. A thief, a liar and a fraud, and he was rewarded for it. There's a lesson to be learned here.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (NWiLs)

33 The ancient jews where a regular brady bunch meets as the world turns.

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (gmo/4)

34 BTW, where is everyone?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:44 AM (CPk0

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They saw no trees, assumed there was no art, and dissipated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison



Is rather quiet. Even for a Monday morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (6NpxV)

35 How'd the kid's palms get so hairy?

Posted by: red speck at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (6Krd7)

36 They saw no trees, assumed there was no art, and dissipated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:45 AM (iikV

**sniff** Usually the hoi polloi do not care if it is true art or not....But really. This place is like a non-obligatory staff meeting....

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (CPk08)

37 The sniper is a bow-hunter, eh?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 09:48 AM (HaL55)

38 36 They saw no trees, assumed there was no art, and dissipated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:45 AM (iikV
**sniff** Usually the hoi polloi do not care if it is true art or not....But really. This place is like a non-obligatory staff meeting....
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (CPk0

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Shoulda been catered.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:48 AM (iikV8)

39 rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 09:35 AM (JFO2v)

Followup to your Iran uranium comment from last thread. Something that got a little lost in all the reporting after Trump's win in November 2016, Obama and the other signatories to the Obama Iran Deal approved a shipment of 130 tons of uranium from Russia to Iran.

https://tinyurl.com/yymznvpy

Pretty good chance the uranium in Iran is ours.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 09:48 AM (ZLI7S)

40 Hi Insom!

I see you need a good pouncing!

*wiggles*
*DOUBLE POUNCE!*

Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 09, 2019 09:49 AM (PkVlr)

41 How'd the kid's palms get so hairy?

He needs glasses now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 09:49 AM (HaL55)

42 38
36 They saw no trees, assumed there was no art, and dissipated.



Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:45 AM (iikV

**sniff** Usually the hoi polloi do not care if it is true art or
not....But really. This place is like a non-obligatory staff meeting....

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (CPk0

=========

Shoulda been catered.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:48 AM (iikV
:
Good point. I will send my recommendation to management.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 09:49 AM (CPk08)

43 I never could figure out why they couldn't rescind the deal once the fraud was discovered. Esau should've lawyered up.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:50 AM (kjKrC)

44
The Old Bait And Switch - a limerick

Isaac had a plan to bless his son
And picked his eldest as the chosen one
But due to vision's dim perception
And some scandalous deception
'Twas too late once E-sau what he'd done

Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 09:50 AM (mvenn)

45 How can we tell that's not actually Esau when we can only see the back of his head? That's what I want to know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 09:50 AM (amw5z)

46 I don't get the NC Wyeth reference?

Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2019 09:50 AM (iCUDL)

47 Isaac looks more like an early St. Nick and the woman is hushing the boy for demanding a Red Ryder BB gun...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 09:50 AM (yEzh6)

48 The Old Bait And Switch - a limerick


I doff my hat to you once more, Muldoon. Well done.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 09:51 AM (HaL55)

49 32 Jacob was a sneaky little shit like his pal Niedermeyer. A thief, a liar and a fraud, and he was rewarded for it. There's a lesson to be learned here.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (NWiLs)


The lesson is that God can build with even the crookedest timber.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 09:51 AM (hLRSq)

50 39 Jackstraw

There was also U on the paper and other stuff the Israelis took and brought back to Israel. I believe this will be homegrown U.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 09:51 AM (JFO2v)

51 I don't get the NC Wyeth reference?
Posted by: kallisto


Style, look & feel is similar?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:52 AM (6NpxV)

52 My string remains unbroken. First comment willowed. Not going to put any effort into resurrecting it. It's garbage day and tie to shovel out the pig's digs.

What? The picture? Oh, yeah. I like it. I get a good feeling when I look at it. Thanks, CBD.

Posted by: creeper at September 09, 2019 09:52 AM (IBQUk)

53 How can we tell that's not actually Esau when we can only see the back of his head? That's what I want to know.

He almost looks like he's wearing an earring.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 09:52 AM (HaL55)

54 32 Jacob was a sneaky little shit like his pal Niedermeyer. A thief, a liar and a fraud, and he was rewarded for it. There's a lesson to be learned here.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (NWiLs)

He had to flee home for years and then got swindled himself.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 09:52 AM (4i8PS)

55 The lesson is that God can build with even the crookedest timber.
Posted by: Mikey NTH


That's what He gets for shopping at Home Depot.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 09:52 AM (6NpxV)

56 Isaac Swiping Jacob's Cheeseburger

Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 09:53 AM (CE5C/)

57 40 Hi Insom!

I see you need a good pouncing!

*wiggles*
*DOUBLE POUNCE!*
Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 09, 2019 09:49 AM (PkVlr)

Whoa, kinda seeing stars after that one!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:53 AM (NWiLs)

58 >>There was also U on the paper and other stuff the Israelis took and brought back to Israel. I believe this will be homegrown U.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 09:53 AM (ZLI7S)

59 32 Jacob was a sneaky little shit like his pal Niedermeyer. A thief, a liar and a fraud, and he was rewarded for it. There's a lesson to be learned here.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (NWiLs)

Cheaters always prosper, until they are caught. Of course, if they take over the legal system, there is no more consequence.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 09:53 AM (J+mig)

60 51. a-ha. My phone is tiny so the detail isn't great.

Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2019 09:54 AM (iCUDL)

61 I have to say, this is one of my least favorite stories in the Bible. This, and Samson. I don't like Samson.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:54 AM (kjKrC)

62 Isaac and Jacob were gay. I read it on the Twatters.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 09:55 AM (FiUMj)

63 The lesson is that God can build with even the crookedest timber.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 09:51 AM (hLRSq)

Most of man's architects have unrealistic ideas about straightening the crooked timber. It never works.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 09:55 AM (J+mig)

64 Love Isaac's tunic. Totes hot. Hopefully he was wearing Flamingo boots with it.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 09, 2019 09:55 AM (2LelM)

65 61 I have to say, this is one of my least favorite stories in the Bible. This, and Samson. I don't like Samson.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:54 AM (kjKrC)

Yeah. I will add, I have always felt Really sorry for Saul. Really sorry.

Posted by: kraken at September 09, 2019 09:56 AM (90T4r)

66 Jacob was a sneaky little shit like his pal Niedermeyer. A thief, a liar and a fraud, and he was rewarded for it. There's a lesson to be learned here.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (NWiLs)

33 The ancient jews where a regular brady bunch meets as the world turns.
Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (gmo/4)


Yeah, not to make this too much of a religious thing, but when I was a kid, learning these stories, the point of them was lost for the most part.

Particularly this family. Lots of tricksy stuff, and murdering and all that jazz... I gotta say, when you compare OT family drama to the story of Jesus and his birth and life and the miracles and the double cross (see what I did there?) that led to his death...

Well yeah, as a kid, it was no comparison as to which stories were easier to relate to.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2019 09:56 AM (cY3LT)

67 Abraham and Isaac sitting on a fence
You'd get right to work if you had any sense
You know the one thing we need is a left-hand monkey wrench

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 09:56 AM (ZLI7S)

68
Dutch paintings = no light

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2019 09:57 AM (7rVsF)

69 I don't like Samson.
Posted by: grammie winger



********

Samson and Delilah are great fodder for limericks however.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 09:57 AM (mvenn)

70 This is an odd painting. Isaac looks right for a student of Rembrandt but the woman has an older, more wooden, style. The colors and abilty to capture the textures of cloth and other items is well done. I don't know if the overall darkness of the work is about Isaac's blindness or the deception of Rebecca and Jacob or both.

The scene is one of the stories from the Old Testament that seem to reward lies and let the faithful and innocent carry the burden of the lies. I'm no Biblical scholar (incredible understatement) but this story of injustice is very irritating.

Posted by: JTB at September 09, 2019 09:57 AM (bmdz3)

71 after Trump's win in November 2016, Obama and the other signatories to the Obama Iran Deal approved a shipment of 130 tons of uranium from Russia to Iran.

https://tinyurl.com/yymznvpy

Pretty good chance the uranium in Iran is ours.


Russian collusion, you say?

Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 09:57 AM (Z1eux)

72 65 61 I have to say, this is one of my least favorite stories in the Bible. This, and Samson. I don't like Samson.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:54 AM (kjKrC)
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The Joos wanted an equal to Hercules. Those pesky Philistines can't be the only ones with a super hero.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 09, 2019 09:57 AM (2LelM)

73 I have to say, this is one of my least favorite stories in the Bible. This, and Samson. I don't like Samson.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:54 AM (kjKrC)


Aren Maeir is running an excavation on the Philistine city Gath. He does lectures and yewtoob videos during the digging season, and is very entertaining . . . for those of us with an interest in Iron Age Mediterranean cultures.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 09, 2019 09:57 AM (xG/b0)

74 Chick author Katherine May tell us how to talk about boobs.

https://bit.ly/2lFLeD6

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (+y/Ru)

75 >>Samson and Delilah are great fodder for limericks however.

Good for song lyrics, too.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (ZLI7S)

76 Jacob was led astray by his scheming mommy.

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (gmo/4)

77 68
Dutch paintings = no light
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2019 09:57 AM (7rVsF)

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Specific, focused lighting, perhaps.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (iikV8)

78 43 I never could figure out why they couldn't rescind the deal once the fraud was discovered. Esau should've lawyered up.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:50 AM (kjKrC)

Right? There should've been no shortage of Jewish lawyers around.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (NWiLs)

79 Most of man's architects have unrealistic ideas about straightening the crooked timber. It never works.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est


This is why we can't have meaningful discussions with leftists. The entire premise of their world view is that man is inherently good, or at least can be made so if the right people are in charge. It's a complete denial of reality based on a refusal to look at the blindingly obvious facts. Climate change is another example.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (T6t7i)

80 The lighting is impressive and I like the drapery and cloth textures but the figures are really stiff, the faces odd (especially Jacob), and while its technically impressive as you'd expect from a top student of Rembrandt, its not a very good painting overall.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 09:59 AM (KZzsI)

81 61 I have to say, this is one of my least favorite stories in the Bible. This, and Samson. I don't like Samson.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:54 AM (kjKrC)

I like the end of Samson. The rest of the story is basically proto-superhero fantasy. He knows he messed up and there's no way out, so he gives himself up to destroy an ancient evil.

There are times when being a Samson is called for, and self-sacrifice is needed to stop evil.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 09:59 AM (J+mig)

82 Whoa, kinda seeing stars after that one!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:53 AM


Here...have a cigarette.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2019 09:59 AM (ejd/p)

83 Kindletot - that sounds interesting. Thank you!

Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:59 AM (kjKrC)

84
Right? There should've been no shortage of Jewish lawyers around.

Posted by: Insomniac


Jewish kids don't join gangs until they become lawyers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2019 09:59 AM (7rVsF)

85 Gath is looking like the regional powerhouse, until king Hazael of Damascus smooshed it.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 10:00 AM (mmAcL)

86 "Pretty good chance the uranium in Iran is ours."Posted by: JackStraw

thx for the link. From what I read it is not our uranium (not enriched), but from Russia. But it is part of the Obama bad deal.


But I'm still not clear on the Uranium One deal, and how much of that uranium finds its way into Russia, if any. It was in their control, but there were supposedly agreements to keep in in North America or some such? And Mueller delivered the sample to Moscow for Hillary back then ... hard to tell what subversive plans were ongoing.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2019 10:00 AM (Cus5s)

87 *looks at side-bar*

Just wait until the Leftists try to create the perfect citizens via DNA edits. May they get giant amebas that eat them because they put a gender-studies major in charge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:00 AM (yEzh6)

88 http://bit.ly/2ZZgAax
*******
Bucknell University To Host Antifa Leader Who Promotes Political Violence

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 10:00 AM (BqBId)

89 Chick author Katherine May tell us how to talk about boobs.

https://bit.ly/2lFLeD6
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



She sounds fun at parties.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:01 AM (6NpxV)

90 88 http://bit.ly/2ZZgAax
*******
Bucknell University To Host Antifa Leader Who Promotes Political Violence
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 10:00 AM (BqBId)

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"That's just free speech, but Ben Shapiro is a Nazi and must be shunned."
-Administrator, begging red state governments to start cutting university funding

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 10:01 AM (iikV8)

91 Pottage. There's a word you don't hear every day.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 10:01 AM (mvenn)

92 91 Pottage. There's a word you don't hear every day.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 10:01 AM (mvenn)

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You're hanging out in the wrong circles, mate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 10:02 AM (iikV8)

93 Purdue Pharma to file bankruptcy.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 09, 2019 10:02 AM (CQ3Qb)

94 >>But I'm still not clear on the Uranium One deal, and how much of that uranium finds its way into Russia, if any. It was in their control, but there were supposedly agreements to keep in in North America or some such? And Mueller delivered the sample to Moscow for Hillary back then ... hard to tell what subversive plans were ongoing.

There were agreements that none of the uranium was to leave the US. You won't be surprised to learn those agreements were violated and uranium was shipped to both Russia and perhaps southeast Asia.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 10:02 AM (ZLI7S)

95 Trump twitter storm:

@realDonaldTrump 37 minutes ago

Great news that an activist investor is now involved with AT&T. As the owner of VERY LOW RATINGS @CNN, perhaps they will now put a stop to all of the Fake News emanating from its non-credible "anchors." Also, I hear that, because of its bad ratings, it is losing a fortune.....

...But most importantly, @CNN is bad for the USA. Their International Division spews bad information & Fake News all over the globe. This is why foreign leaders are always asking me, "Why does the Media hate the U.S. sooo much?" It is a fraudulent shame, & all comes from the top!

As bad as @CNN is, Comcast MSNBC is worse. Their ratings are also way down because they have lost all credibility. I believe their stories about me are not 93% negative, but actually 100% negative. They are incapable of saying anything positive, despite all of the great things...

..that this Administration has done. They don't talk about the great economy, the big tax and regulation cuts, the rebuilding of the Military, "Choice" at our VA, our Vets, Judges and Supreme Court Justices, the Border Wall going up, lowest crime numbers, 2nd A, and so much more!

The Trump Administrations has achieved more in the first 2 1/2 years of its existence than perhaps any administration in the history of our Country. We get ZERO media credit for what we have done, and are doing, but the people know, and that's all that is important!

@realDonaldTrump 17 minutes ago

I know nothing about an Air Force plane landing at an airport (which I do not own and have nothing to do with) near Turnberry Resort (which I do own) in Scotland, and filling up with fuel, with the crew staying overnight at Turnberry (they have good taste!). NOTHING TO DO WITH ME

I had nothing to do with the decision of our great @VP Mike Pence to stay overnight at one of the Trump owned resorts in Doonbeg, Ireland. Mike's family has lived in Doonbeg for many years, and he thought that during his very busy European visit, he would stop and see his family!

Posted by: Tami at September 09, 2019 10:03 AM (cF8AT)

96 Samson was from Dan. when I was on a dig in the area (Ashqelon) the profs thought Dan might be a Sea People tribe who got thrashed by the Philistines and then joined Israel because where else were they going to go.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 10:03 AM (mmAcL)

97 Chick author Katherine May tell us how to talk about boobs.

https://bit.ly/2lFLeD6
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM


I'm pretty sure the Horde has that down without any input from her.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2019 10:04 AM (ejd/p)

98 Interesting the number of people who don't know the story.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 10:05 AM (i5RAz)

99 Bearded Guy: Look, I just think that get-up is really gay---

Woman: Hesh up.

(Aaaaaand good morning Horde. Chin up, when you make it through Monday then it's...Tuesday. Maybe that was more inspirational in my head. Anyway, have the best day possible given that Murphy and Finagle stalk the land.)

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:05 AM (RD7QR)

100 Just wait until the Leftists try to create the perfect citizens via DNA edits. May they get giant amebas that eat them because they put a gender-studies major in charge.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:00 AM (yEzh6)

I don't think they have any comprehension of what a Pandora's Box they're playing with.

Of course, all they see is a chance to make themselves more powerful, and everyone else more docile and easy to control. The lust for power blinds them to every other consideration.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:05 AM (J+mig)

101 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Glacier Park was awesome. On our way to Yellowstone.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 09, 2019 10:05 AM (Bpc14)

102 more interested in How To Talk *Around* Boobs.

"bbpbphllmpmm"

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 10:06 AM (mmAcL)

103 Isaac: "Now here's the way we're gonna do this. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 10:07 AM (ClOmq)

104 59 32 Jacob was a sneaky little shit like his pal Niedermeyer. A thief, a liar and a fraud, and he was rewarded for it. There's a lesson to be learned here.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (NWiLs)

Cheaters always prosper, until they are caught. Of course, if they take over the legal system, there is no more consequence.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 09:53 AM (J+mig)

Pretty much.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:07 AM (NWiLs)

105 It's always interesting to see how artists imagine the dress and incidentals from various times. Apparently, to this guy, Jacob lived in the high middle ages. It's like Virgil writing the Aeneid with ships from the current Roman era instead of what the Myceneans would have had, although how would he know? But in this case, why would you imagine that nomadic tribesmen living in tents mostly would have pewter and velvet?

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:08 AM (nRWPy)

106 Why do I keep hearing the 'William Tell Overture' in the background . . . ?

Posted by: Dr_No at September 09, 2019 10:08 AM (imDUY)

107 I never could figure out why they couldn't rescind the deal once the fraud was discovered. Esau should've lawyered up.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:50 AM (kjKrC)

The Blessing is cosmic energy coming from one's fingertips. Once the blast of Blessing has been fired, there's no way to get it back. And Isaac was old, so his blessing refractory time was, like, 3 months.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 10:08 AM (VJZgq)

108 Chick author Katherine May tell us how to talk about boobs.


If she doesn't use the words "real" and/or "spectacular," I'll pass.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 10:08 AM (HaL55)

109 Cato, in one of Saberhagen's Beserker stories, The Smile, just as an aside between a despot and his consort there is talk of such. But it needs more work as the test subjects came out mentally retarded.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:08 AM (yEzh6)

110 Dan might be a Sea People tribe who got thrashed by the Philistines and then joined Israel because where else were they going to go.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo


The Sea Peoples are a weird subject on so many levels. People can read almost anything into them. It's like the dark matter of ancient Mediterranean history.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, yer kidding me, right? at September 09, 2019 10:08 AM (AM1GF)

111 Jacob did give us Joseph and his technicolor dream coat. So there's that.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 10:09 AM (kjKrC)

112 82 Whoa, kinda seeing stars after that one!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:53 AM

Here...have a cigarette.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2019 09:59 AM (ejd/p)

Thanks.
*lights*
*takes a drag*

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:09 AM (NWiLs)

113 108 Chick author Katherine May tell us how to talk about boobs.


If she doesn't use the words "real" and/or "spectacular," I'll pass.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 10:08 AM (HaL55)

============

"Real boobs are spectacular, and men do not deserve to see them because men are scum and I hate them, and if they don't vote the way I want I'll ask their wives to stop having sex with them."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 10:09 AM (iikV8)

114 From the sidebar: Gene-edited cattle have a major screw-up in their DNA.

Yeah, can't imagine how dicking-around with the actual DNA of living creature could have unintended side-effects.

Can I be the latest (if not first) to suggest "Could You Fucking Not!" to this monstrous insanity?

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 10:10 AM (77WPm)

115 Samson > Son of Sam

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 10:10 AM (+y/Ru)

116 96 Samson was from Dan. when I was on a dig in the area (Ashqelon) the profs thought Dan might be a Sea People tribe who got thrashed by the Philistines and then joined Israel because where else were they going to go.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 10:03 AM (mmAcL)

Maybe that's why Dan was considered the lowest, least, and most disreputable of the tribes.

Or it course, if you synthesize these ideas, they make even more sense. You have a weak tribe, and your oldest enemy just defeated a third party. Their remnants want to join you. You'd have to be crazy to turn down an offer like that, but your purity-obsessive neighbors are suspicious about how your tribe suddenly bulked up with people who have funny hair and weird accents.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:10 AM (J+mig)

117 It's like Virgil writing the Aeneid with ships from the current Roman era instead of what the Myceneans would have had, although how would he know?

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:08 AM (nRWPy)

He could have watched the History Channel. Then he would have known. Probably couldn't afford basic cable, or high-speed internet.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 10:10 AM (VJZgq)

118 This was also the first documented appearance of jazz hands.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 10:10 AM (xfb67)

119 The Sea People keep cropping up. Wish we knew more about them. I wonder if they weren't just "people with boats" and not necessarily "from" anywhere in particular. The crop up all around the med.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:11 AM (nRWPy)

120 Jacob was way ahead of his time with fashion. After his Renaissance phase, he went on to invent parachute pants.

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at September 09, 2019 10:11 AM (+QJh9)

121 Frodo---

That's what I was thinking as well...

Posted by: Brunnhilde at September 09, 2019 10:11 AM (aW5/6)

122 have to say, this is one of my least favorite stories in the Bible. This, and Samson. I don't like Samson.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:54 AM (kjKrC)

Really? Samson to me is the story of a badass who is inherently a good person who travels in same circle with with bad people and eventually receives redemption and then performs self sacrifice. It's basically every John Wayne movie.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 10:11 AM (YB89a)

123 He could have watched the History Channel. Then he would have known. Probably couldn't afford basic cable, or high-speed internet.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 10:10 AM (VJZgq)

Damn Roman taxation.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:12 AM (nRWPy)

124 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 09, 2019 10:12 AM (arJlL)

125 You'd have to be crazy to turn down an offer like that, but your purity-obsessive neighbors are suspicious about how your tribe suddenly bulked up with people who have funny hair and weird accents.


Hence the cuck's hate for Donald Trump.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:13 AM (nRWPy)

126 Can I be the latest (if not first) to suggest "Could You Fucking Not!" to this monstrous insanity?

Posted by: DocJ


When you don't believe in God, it's inevitable you start meddling in His domain. And that never ends well.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, yer kidding me, right? at September 09, 2019 10:13 AM (AM1GF)

127 BTH, have you been on actual digs?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:13 AM (RD7QR)

128 After Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage.

*******

Esau's New Nickname - a limerick

Esau said, "My birthright is due.
But for some pottage I'll sell it to you!"
Jacob said, "As you wish!
Here's a hot steaming dish.
And from henceforth you'll be known as Stu!"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 10:13 AM (mvenn)

129 It's back when the Middle East had a cold climate. In the Summer.


Just like Holland.

Posted by: JAS at September 09, 2019 10:14 AM (dT9VH)

130 Yeah, can't imagine how dicking-around with the actual DNA of living creature could have unintended side-effects.

Can I be the latest (if not first) to suggest "Could You Fucking Not!" to this monstrous insanity?
Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 10:10 AM (77WPm)

Now more than ever, we need colonies on other worlds. We need to insulate genetically unmodified populations from this kind of willy-nilly tinkering.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:14 AM (J+mig)

131 Samson highlights the devious female nature.

Samson also highlights the stupidity of the male nature.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 09, 2019 10:14 AM (pRFRw)

132 Axel Rose...the later years.

Posted by: Tentotwo at September 09, 2019 10:14 AM (yhf6w)

133 122 have to say, this is one of my least favorite stories in the Bible. This, and Samson. I don't like Samson.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 09:54 AM (kjKrC)

Really? Samson to me is the story of a badass who is inherently a good person who travels in same circle with with bad people and eventually receives redemption and then performs self sacrifice. It's basically every John Wayne movie.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 10:11 AM (YB89a)

I took it as one of many Bible teachings about women.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:15 AM (4i8PS)

134 I will try to catch up and see if the central questions have been addressed:

1) Who is Dumbledore talking to?

ii) Why does Legolas have furry paws?

ii(a) Or is that AtC?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 09, 2019 10:15 AM (wzVKm)

135 When you read the entire story of Isaac, and Jacob, and Esau, including Jacob's final return many years later, it is very darkly comical, and I do think that was always the original intent, in keeping with a lot of ancient middle eastern literature. It's really a very good story - it's stretched out and done in a style no longer familiar to us, so I think most readers (especially those who are devout) have missed a whole lot of nuance and implication in that story.

and it actually does have a mostly happy ending, even for Esau.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 10:15 AM (Kpl3J)

136 The Communists in Beijing have already allowed this DNA editing to be applied to twin girls.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:15 AM (yEzh6)

137 When you don't believe in God, it's inevitable you start meddling in His domain. And that never ends well.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, yer kidding me, right? at September 09, 2019 10:13 AM (AM1GF)

The Tower of Babel comes to mind.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:16 AM (J+mig)

138 The Sea People keep cropping up. Wish we knew more about them. I wonder if they weren't just "people with boats" and not necessarily "from" anywhere in particular. The crop up all around the med.

Posted by: dagny


They have all the hallmarks of a displaced population, or something like the Hun migrations, just by sea. But nobody's been able to pin down where they originated, or if it was from several places, maybe a sort of domino effect. It's a fascinating, if frustrating, subject.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, yer kidding me, right? at September 09, 2019 10:16 AM (AM1GF)

139 It's basically every John Wayne Victor Mature movie.

Posted by: JAS at September 09, 2019 10:16 AM (dT9VH)

140 "Real boobs are spectacular, and men do not deserve to see them because
men are scum and I hate them, and if they don't vote the way I want I'll
ask their wives to stop having sex with them."


Well, that wasn't exactly what I had in mind, but I expected something similar from a feminazi.

Sad how we never hear from normal women on the Twatters. It's always the hysterical psychos with Daddy issues projecting them on all men, like in that Jillette commercial.

Yeah sugartits, you hate all men. We get it. Now get back under the stairs where you and your mental illness belong.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 10:16 AM (HaL55)

141 I took it as one of many Bible teachings about women.



A young Bette Davis would be great in that role.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 10:16 AM (kjKrC)

142 As a kid, I bought some Sea People out of a comic book once.

Big disappointment.

Posted by: wait, what? at September 09, 2019 10:17 AM (WwHot)

143 The Tower of Babel comes to mind.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est


A culture fractured by confusion of speech? Perish the thought.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, yer kidding me, right? at September 09, 2019 10:17 AM (AM1GF)

144 Now more than ever, we need colonies on other
worlds. We need to insulate genetically unmodified populations from
this kind of willy-nilly tinkering.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:14 AM (J+mig)

When you don't believe in God, it's inevitable you start meddling in His domain. And that never ends well.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, yer kidding me, right? at September 09, 2019 10:13 AM (AM1GF)
Concur, all.

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 10:17 AM (77WPm)

145 Yeah, can't imagine how d***ing-around with the actual DNA of living creature could have unintended side-effects.

Can I be the latest (if not first) to suggest "Could You F***ing Not!" to this monstrous insanity?


Posted by: DocJ



And yet, and yet. It will happen. The best we can hope for is to start small and implement very strict controls, yet even that is ultimately futile. The Chinese are already doing this.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:17 AM (T6t7i)

146 Much later Herod was an Edomite, not a "real" Hebrew at all, another reason he was a bad guy. I'm sure the distinction was lost on the Romans.


It's funny how many people don't know how little regard or hatred was felt for the Samaritans. The phrase "good Samaritan" is supposed to be ironic, yet symbolic. Sorta, "if this piece of shit can act properly, why can't you?"

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:17 AM (nRWPy)

147 Those were Sea Monkeys...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:17 AM (yEzh6)

148 Jacob's life seems prosperous in some ways (he ends up with a lot of ownership and flocks) but he spends most of his youth on the run and in poverty, he keeps being taken advantage of, he loses his favorite son thinking he's dead, his other sons are a constant source of trouble for him, etc. He makes a lot of really bad choices and cowardly, stupid crap and pays for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 10:18 AM (KZzsI)

149 On the subject of sea people.

https://tinyurl.com/y3wmpwr4

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:18 AM (4i8PS)

150 I feed sea monkeys to my Siamese fighting fish.

It was not disappointing.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 10:18 AM (xfb67)

151 Chick author Katherine May tell us how to talk about boobs.

Katherine may show us her boobs.
Picture > 1000 words.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (88+cf)

152 And yet, and yet. It will happen. The best we can hope for is to start small and implement very strict controls, yet even that is ultimately futile. The Chinese are already doing this.

Posted by: pep


Let them frak up their own gene pool. There's no reason for us to engage in that insanity as well.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (AM1GF)

153 >>Those were Sea Monkeys...

My sister bought those. Talk about a letdown.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (ZLI7S)

154 Chick author Katherine May tell us how to talk about boobs.

https://bit.ly/2lFLeD6
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (+y/Ru)


Never heard of her. Does she have nice boobs?

The irony is, she probably has no idea how much difference it makes whether she does or not.

I suspect her opinion on this matter is quite irrelevant to most men.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (cY3LT)

155 A story at Legal Insurrection says Hillary and Lizzie Warden are staying in contact. One wonders if Hillary is angling for a spot as VP...and if Lizzie has considered the ramifications of being the only person in the world standing between Hillary Clinton and the White House.

Posted by: creeper at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (IBQUk)

156
Samson also highlights the stupidity of the male nature.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 09, 2019 10:14 AM (pRFRw)

And the male obsession with ... dare I say it? Need I say it?

Bewbs.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (MwFQu)

157 Now more than ever, we need colonies on other
worlds. We need to insulate genetically unmodified populations from
this kind of willy-nilly tinkering.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est


I assume it doesn't require mentioning that we should populate these worlds with a few genetically superior men and a large surplus of young, fertile women.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (T6t7i)

158 It's basically every John Wayne Victor Mature movie.
Posted by: JAS at September 09, 2019 10:16 AM (dT9VH

Demitrius and the Gladiators was on the tube a few days ago. Didn't know it was a sequel to The Robe.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (YB89a)

159 I assume it doesn't require mentioning that we
should populate these worlds with a few genetically superior men and a
large surplus of young, fertile women.


Posted by: pep


I'll take the bullet.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (T6t7i)

160 IDK. Hedy Lamarr was very tempting.

Posted by: JAS at September 09, 2019 10:20 AM (dT9VH)

161 They have all the hallmarks of a displaced
population, or something like the Hun migrations, just by sea. But
nobody's been able to pin down where they originated, or if it was from
several places, maybe a sort of domino effect. It's a fascinating, if
frustrating, subject.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, yer kidding me, right? at September 09, 2019 10:16 AM (AM1GF)


the excavations at Gath are interesting because it shows multiple roots for the physical culture, from cooking, animal genetics, plants and cultic objects. It wasn't just sourced from say, Asia Minor, but from all over.

My question is why the Tin supply appears to have dried up at the end of the Bronze age. I wonder what was happening in Afganistan and parts west of there.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 09, 2019 10:20 AM (xG/b0)

162 I assume it doesn't require mentioning that we should populate these worlds with a few genetically superior men and a large surplus of young, fertile women.

We cannot allow a mine gap!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 10:20 AM (KZzsI)

163 When you don't believe in God, it's inevitable you start meddling in His domain. And that never ends well.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil


Simple prayer:

Dear Lord,
Moar smiting. Less cheek turning.

Amen

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:20 AM (6NpxV)

164 Yeah, can't imagine how d***ing-around with the actual DNA of living creature could have unintended side-effects.

Can I be the latest (if not first) to suggest "Could You F***ing Not!" to this monstrous insanity?




Posted by: DocJ

Ve kan make ubermensch!
The new Nazi's

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 10:20 AM (gmo/4)

165 It's funny how many people don't know how little regard or hatred was felt for the Samaritans. The phrase "good Samaritan" is supposed to be ironic, yet symbolic. Sorta, "if this piece of shit can act properly, why can't you?"

Posted by: dagny


The term went from a bad name to a model of good people. In a sense it carries the theme of redemption in ways never intended. Appropriate.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:20 AM (AM1GF)

166 Samson was from Dan. when I was on a dig in the area (Ashqelon) the profs thought Dan might be a Sea People tribe who got thrashed by the Philistines and then joined Israel because where else were they going to go.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 10:03 AM (mmAcL)

Maybe that's why Dan was considered the lowest, least, and most disreputable of the tribes.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:10 AM (J+mig)

There are those that believe that Dan is the Danaan or the Danae that is mentioned in Greek protohistory. There is also mythology that says that Dan traveled to Spain and then to Ireland (Hibernia) where they became the High Kings.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 10:20 AM (VJZgq)

167 With a few minor "alterations", this would make a good Christmas card, because that's the vibe it gives off.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 09, 2019 10:21 AM (NFEMn)

168 I want I'll
ask their wives to stop having sex with them."


These twits imagine women not wanting sex. You gotta wonder how f-ing frigid, nasty, and abnormal they are. Why should I give up sex? It's like parents who take TV away from kids because they've been bothersome. Yeah, that'll get you more peace. That punishes whom?

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:21 AM (nRWPy)

169 http://bit.ly/2ZTGRXq
*******
Democrat Beto O'Rourke: Americans Will Gladly Turn Over their Guns (VIDEO)

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 10:21 AM (BqBId)

170 Let them frak up their own gene pool. There's no reason for us to engage in that insanity as well.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone


The problem is the impossibility of sequestering the changes to one population. Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:21 AM (T6t7i)

171 I always felt like us modifying DNA and creating new life ourselves would be the final straw with God. We've been at the precipice for a while now.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (pRFRw)

172 160 IDK. Hedy Lamarr was very tempting.
*******
HEDLEY !!

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (BqBId)

173 You know who got a raw deal? Esau.

Fuck Jacob and fuck that bitch Rebekah.

Taking advantage of a blind man...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (bcbK8)

174 Katherine may show us her boobs.
Picture > 1000 words.
Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (88+cf)

Just looked up her picture. I think I'll pass on this idea.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (N4xQB)

175 Oh and the art is fine. Not refined or with the level of polish I sorta expect, but it's fine. Beats the fuck out of Jackson Pollock.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (bcbK8)

176 Good morning.

I've been awake since...1AM?

Get up to pee and suddenly my mind can't stop racing and couldn't fall back asleep. Only bright spot was I was awake already and made a 4:30 AM delivery appointment.

Now I'm here at the truck stop waiting for a new order and I'm just so sleeeepy!

Posted by: Robert *YAAAAWN* at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (eeAel)

177 It's funny how many people don't know how little regard or hatred was felt for the Samaritans. The phrase "good Samaritan" is supposed to be ironic, yet symbolic. Sorta, "if this piece of shit can act properly, why can't you?"

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:17 AM (nRWPy)

The Samaritans, which we would probably refer to as Jews today, were simply heretics. Two tribes formed Judea(New Testament jews refers to people from here), the other ten formed Samaria. Tied back to Jeroboam's tax revolt.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (4i8PS)

178 Esau always makes me think of Jethro Bodine.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (kjKrC)

179 169 http://bit.ly/2ZTGRXq

*******

Democrat Beto O'Rourke: Americans Will Gladly Turn Over their Guns (VIDEO)

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 10:21 AM (BqBId)

LOLGF, Beta.

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (77WPm)

180 Guess Biggs won't be firing his proton torpedo then...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (yEzh6)

181 That's a man hand!

Oh, wait...well I guess that would follow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (cg4r6)

182 Let them frak up their own gene pool. There's no reason for us to engage in that insanity as well.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (AM1GF)

The real problem is that the damage may not be evident in one or two generations. It may produce healthier, smarter children... but any unnatural genes or combinations invented by this method will eventually spread to unmodified people.

What happens if they react badly with something that wasn't present at the time? Now you've got generations of people who are a genetic time bomb.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (J+mig)

183 So how's everyone else?

Posted by: Robert *YAAAAWN* at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (eeAel)

184 The term went from a bad name to a model of good people. In a sense it carries the theme of redemption in ways never intended. Appropriate.


Also, like the woman at the well.

Dare to have the conversation, receive enlightenment, forgiveness and salvation. But first, dare to engage.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (nRWPy)

185 180 Guess Biggs won't be firing his proton torpedo then...
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (yEzh6)

LOL, not in that particular exhaust port

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (N4xQB)

186 "Cheaters always prosper, until they are caught. Of course, if they take over the legal system, there is no more consequence."Posted by: Cato

No Consequence ... Until the people figure out the local lawyer gang is mostly a commie mafia of self-dealing liars and (unconvicted) felons. Then the thousand families in town could take revenge quickly, as the guild protects its own even in the face of a former asst DA murdering his wife with the kids in the house ... and not facing any charge despite strong evidence. (a real case, locally). If hard times come ... the syndicate might be taken out (hence they want our guns, of course)


"The Boss" (Royko) exposed Mayor Daly, but nothing so far has changed much. And we have funded the ongoing coup against Trump and America, by having our FBI/IC taken over by crooked lawyers from Hahavard or Yale, all in TheClub.


The change may have to come from a gun, or else all our communities and nation will be openly run by gangsters (as opposed to covertly run by gangsters). tick tock ... the masses would applaud violence against crooked MadeMen that took control of the legal system, imo. I've heard the rage from many that have been harmed by the corruption ... they are not deceived, just angry.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (Cus5s)

187 49 32 Jacob was a sneaky little shit like his pal Niedermeyer. A thief, a liar and a fraud, and he was rewarded for it. There's a lesson to be learned here.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 09:47 AM (NWiLs)

The lesson is that God can build with even the crookedest timber.
Posted by: Mikey NTH

Also note that in the story, Jacob gets paid back for all his sneakiness and conniving by having others do the same to him. Not long after this, he is sent up to work for his Uncle Laban to get a wife (and probably to get him away from Esau, who is the big tough guy who wants to kill him after this) and what does Laban do? Laban tricks him into working 14 years for a wife instead of 7.

And this is part of the subtleties built into the story that you have to think about to understand - Supposedly, Jacob get's Isaac's "blessing" and all his goods, but what happens next? Jacob hightails it and goes on the run to another country, and Esau takes over everything and runs it all for the next 14 years. So what exactly did Jacob get for his dishonesty? A lot of grief, mainly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 10:24 AM (Kpl3J)

188 152 And yet, and yet. It will happen. The best we can hope for is to start small and implement very strict controls, yet even that is ultimately futile. The Chinese are already doing this.

Posted by: pep

Let them frak up their own gene pool. There's no reason for us to engage in that insanity as well.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (AM1GF


That usually ends up with a very irritable gigantic person needing to be subdued by several divisions of the military. At least, that's what old B&W movies told me.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 10:24 AM (hLRSq)

189 176 Good morning.

I've been awake since...1AM?

Get up to pee and suddenly my mind can't stop racing and couldn't fall back asleep. Only bright spot was I was awake already and made a 4:30 AM delivery appointment.

Now I'm here at the truck stop waiting for a new order and I'm just so sleeeepy!
Posted by: Robert *YAAAAWN* at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (eeAel)

Power nap dude. When my nephew was driving he said he could get a good, solid 15-minute nap while waiting for people to futz around with paperwork.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

190 175 Oh and the art is fine. Not refined or with the level of polish I sorta expect, but it's fine. Beats the fuck out of Jackson Pollock.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (bcbK

============

"Let's see you do better!"
-Abraham van Dijck, crying

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 10:24 AM (iikV8)

191 Democrat Beto O'Rourke: Americans Will Gladly Turn Over their Guns (VIDEO)
-------

Heh. I guess Edwards was right, there are two Americas.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 09, 2019 10:25 AM (cg4r6)

192 Loping by to ask which TX Moron hooked the rifle while fishing in a local lake.

What happens in a canoe accident should stay in the lake.

Lopes back out

Posted by: Ben Had at September 09, 2019 10:25 AM (qr+6s)

193 What happens if they react badly with something that
wasn't present at the time? Now you've got generations of people who
are a genetic time bomb.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (J+mig)

So in other words, "I Am Legend" was off on a few details but otherwise potentially accurate?
FTR, if that's the case I want to be one of the 90+% who bleeds-out upon contraction.

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 10:25 AM (77WPm)

194 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (bcbK8

Yes I thought it was well done on a technical basis.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 10:25 AM (YB89a)

195
Demitrius and the Gladiators was on the tube a few days ago. Didn't know it was a sequel to The Robe.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions


Those two movies could be spliced together to make one long movie. The same could be done with Frankenstein and The Bride of Frankenstein.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 09, 2019 10:26 AM (aKsyK)

196 These twits imagine women not wanting sex. You gotta wonder how f-ing frigid, nasty, and abnormal they are. Why should I give up sex? It's like parents who take TV away from kids because they've been bothersome. Yeah, that'll get you more peace. That punishes whom?
Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:21 AM (nRWPy)

Never read Lysistrata, did they? By the end, the women are in as much need as the men, IIRC.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 09, 2019 10:26 AM (MwFQu)

197 Democrat Beto O'Rourke: Americans Will Gladly Turn Over their Guns

Suuuuure we will. You keep on thinking that, Beto Boy.

What a maroon...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 10:26 AM (HaL55)

198 I was excited to see the Eagles beat the Redskins yesterday, but I'm getting really fed up with all the local hipster sports writers who make a show of not saying "Redskins." Poll after poll has shown that 90% of Native Americans don't care. Stop playing white savior for people who don't want to be "saved."

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 09, 2019 10:26 AM (N4xQB)

199 The Samaritans, which we would probably refer to as Jews today, were simply heretics. Two tribes formed Judea(New Testament jews refers to people from here), the other ten formed Samaria. Tied back to Jeroboam's tax revolt.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (4i8PS)

Yes, and they were despised by those from Judea from whose salvation history we received. Jesus spends some time rehabilitating their image via the written gospels.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:26 AM (nRWPy)

200 So in other words, "I Am Legend" was off on a few details but otherwise potentially accurate?

12 Monkeys

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:26 AM (T6t7i)

201 Katherine may show us her boobs.
Picture > 1000 words.
Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (88+cf)

Just looked up her picture. I think I'll pass on this idea.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter

That's a man, baby !

Posted by: JT at September 09, 2019 10:27 AM (arJlL)

202 Jacob was a sneaky little shit like his pal Niedermeyer.

NIEDERMEYER?!?!?!?! HE'S A DEAD MAN!!!


Brother Bluto, Delta House

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 10:27 AM (gmo/4)

203 Unit 731 was a horror show.

Genetic tinkering why yes you could get a Dracula who needs to attack other people to maintain their blood system.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:27 AM (yEzh6)

204 Like most stories in the Bible, this highlights how sin (living outside of God's will) leads from one problem to the next. Sin begets more sin.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 09, 2019 10:27 AM (pRFRw)

205 Esau - a wild, rough man covered with hair all over his body, who preferred living in the open to living in a city, or even a tent - is very, very similar to the archetypal Enkidu of Babylonian mythology, the one time enemy who became the best friend of Gilgamesh, the Babylonian Noah. A very ancient archetype.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 10:27 AM (Kpl3J)

206 The old man says "I'll not allow it". The young archer turns to the old woman and says "can I put a frigging arrow into this old bastard?". The old woman then ponders...

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 10:27 AM (9Om/r)

207 171 I always felt like us modifying DNA and creating new life ourselves would be the final straw with God. We've been at the precipice for a while now.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (pRFRw)

It depends on a lot of things. I think the level of care, respect, and intentions matter a lot here. We are the children of the Creator, creation is our nature, and arguably, our purpose...

...but the people who are doing this aren't interested in curing disease, or making everybody's life better, they're interested in control, motivated by pride and avarice.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:27 AM (J+mig)

208 184 The term went from a bad name to a model of good people. In a sense it carries the theme of redemption in ways never intended. Appropriate.


Also, like the woman at the well.

Dare to have the conversation, receive enlightenment, forgiveness and salvation. But first, dare to engage.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:23 AM (nRWPy)

The woman at the well was also a Samaritan iirc. There's a leper who is also a Samaritan, three in total are made special note of.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:28 AM (4i8PS)

209 I don't think they have any comprehension of what a Pandora's Box they're playing with.

No problem. They're experts at solving the problems they create!

Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:28 AM (Y9zp1)

210 I could use two power naps. 3 nights in nashville as a now 46 y/o drinking like a 20y/o just isn't a sensible thing to do anymore.


Posted by: H Badger at September 09, 2019 10:28 AM (n/0Nw)

211 My question is why the Tin supply appears to have dried up at the end of the Bronze age. I wonder what was happening in Afganistan and parts west of there.

Posted by: Kindltot


Not sure about the tin supply, but that was also when iron working was finally making its way around the region. With iron more plentiful, it quickly displaced bronze as the metal of choice. Supply, meet demand.

There were a lot of moving parts around that time. No wonder things are unclear.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:28 AM (AM1GF)

212 Any doctors here?

I lost another kitteh to renal failure and it made me wonder if you could hook up 2 people or kittehs so that they shared blood continuously. That way the party with the functioning kidneys would be performing the dialysis of the other.

Is this even possible?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 10:29 AM (xfb67)

213 So what exactly did Jacob get for his dishonesty? A lot of grief, mainly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 10:24 AM (Kpl3J)

And wrestling a non-corporeal being has to be a bitch.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:30 AM (nRWPy)

214 Huh. And then I go out to the main page and see this in the sidebar: Gene-edited cattle have a major screw-up in their DNA.

Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:30 AM (Y9zp1)

215 O'Rourke, the Irish twit, thinks that people turning in old rusted guns for cash in order to buy new guns or drugs equates to all of America.

The stupidity burns.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 09, 2019 10:30 AM (pRFRw)

216 "You there, what day is it?"

"Why it's Shut The F*** Up!"

*Mariachi Music*

Posted by: Allie at September 09, 2019 10:30 AM (sm6Pk)

217 It depends on a lot of things. I think the level of
care, respect, and intentions matter a lot here. We are the children
of the Creator, creation is our nature, and arguably, our purpose...



...but the people who are doing this aren't interested in curing
disease, or making everybody's life better, they're interested in
control, motivated by pride and avarice.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est


The vast majority are probably doing it for the right reasons, but it doesn't matter. Even if there is only a small number doing it for the wrong reasons, the implications for humanity are profound.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:30 AM (T6t7i)

218 My question is why the Tin supply appears to have dried up at the end of the Bronze age.


Tin is why the Romans wanted Britain, mostly.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:31 AM (nRWPy)

219 That usually ends up with a very irritable gigantic person needing to be subdued by several divisions of the military. At least, that's what old B&W movies told me.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 10:24 AM (hLRSq)

I'm envisioning a line of gargantuan sumo wrestlers stomping all over Tokyo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 10:31 AM (Kpl3J)

220 Katherine may show us her boobs.
Picture > 1000 words.
Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2019 10:19 AM (88+cf)

Just looked up her picture. I think I'll pass on this idea.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter

That's a man, baby !
Posted by: JT


Well, I'm not going to talk about her penis, that's for sure.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:31 AM (6NpxV)

221 When you read the entire story of Isaac, and Jacob, and Esau, including Jacob's final return many years later, it is very darkly comical, and I do think that was always the original intent, in keeping with a lot of ancient middle eastern literature. It's really a very good story - it's stretched out and done in a style no longer familiar to us, so I think most readers (especially those who are devout) have missed a whole lot of nuance and implication in that story.

and it actually does have a mostly happy ending, even for Esau.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 10:15 AM (Kpl3J)


I think that's why it is such a disservice to teach kids about the Bible, with the infantile versions of these stories. Kids learn "Abraham and Sarah wanted a baby SOOOOO bad!" And "David was jealous and mean!"

The stories come off as shallow, and so many of the people... it's hard to relate as a kid to whatever the hell the Bible is supposed to be telling us.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2019 10:31 AM (cY3LT)

222 There are those that believe that Dan is the Danaan or the Danae that is mentioned in Greek protohistory.

-
They also sold yogurt.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 10:32 AM (+y/Ru)

223 Tin is why the Romans wanted Britain, mostly.

Posted by: dagny


That, and the food.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:32 AM (T6t7i)

224 What puzzles me about the Sea Peoples, in addition to everything, was that all these city states were sacked. But no one has ever found the caches of stuff stolen from them.

One book I read about the Great Collapse posited that the Corsicans and Sardians were the Sea People. I question that, based on relative populations, and on the fact that no large bronze age treasure troves have been found in either place.

Fascinating puzzle. When I get time travel working, I'll check it out.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:32 AM (bcbK8)

225 >>I'm envisioning a line of gargantuan sumo wrestlers stomping all over Tokyo.


Godzilla. This is how you get Godzilla.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 10:32 AM (ZLI7S)

226 223 Tin is why the Romans wanted Britain, mostly.

Posted by: dagny

That, and the food.
Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:32 AM (T6t7i)

And the chicks. Those fat chicks...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:32 AM (bcbK8)

227 218 My question is why the Tin supply appears to have dried up at the end of the Bronze age.


Tin is why the Romans wanted Britain, mostly.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:31 AM (nRWPy)

Britain was quite important to the Empire, I believe Constantine was proclaimed emperor by his legions in York.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:33 AM (4i8PS)

228 This is why we can't have meaningful discussions with leftists. The entire premise of their world view is that man is inherently goodperfectible, or at least can be made so if the right people are in charge. It's a complete denial of reality based on a refusal to look at the blindingly obvious facts...
Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (T6t7i)


FIFY

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 09, 2019 10:33 AM (YQ4mh)

229 I'm envisioning a line of gargantuan sumo wrestlers stomping all over Tokyo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 10:31 AM (Kpl3J)


Sumozilla?

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 10:33 AM (gmo/4)

230 Any doctors here?

I lost another kitteh to renal failure and it made me wonder if you could hook up 2 people or kittehs so that they shared blood continuously. That way the party with the functioning kidneys would be performing the dialysis of the other.

Is this even possible?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe


Possible? Yes
Practical? No

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:33 AM (6NpxV)

231
I'm envisioning a line of gargantuan sumo wrestlers stomping all over Tokyo.
Posted by: Tom Servo


That's amazing. And colossal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 09, 2019 10:34 AM (aKsyK)

232 There are those that believe that Dan is the Danaan or the Danae that is mentioned in Greek protohistory. There is also mythology that says that Dan traveled to Spain and then to Ireland (Hibernia) where they became the High Kings.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 10:20 AM (VJZgq)

Mostly due to the linguistic similarity of a tribe called the Tuatha Dè Dannan who appear in the Irish mythic cycle. Most historians say it means "Tribe of Danu", who is supposedly an obscure goddess. It could be taken to mean "Tribe of the God of Little Dan", though, as the -an suffix is found in Irish naming, and means little.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:34 AM (J+mig)

233 Why hook up to another person? Just take the extra kidney like normal .

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (YB89a)

234 Esau's response to Jacob's return is a model for how pne should react to a brother who was dead but has returned alive.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (4i8PS)

235 Alcohol has to go through the liver and while it's doing that the sugars in it aren't being converted to glucose. So once the liver finishes metabolizing the alcohol, the sugars hit the blood stream. BAM! if you're sleeping it wakes you up. Then your body dumps insulin to lower the blood sugar, and you get sleepy as hell. The only advantage to the sugar high after the alcohol is metabolized in the middle of the night is that it gives you the opportunity to drink enough water to manage a hangover better.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (nRWPy)

236 Fine, we'll take the Blacks and Mexicans...but we don't want the Irish!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (bcbK8)

237 Tin is why the Romans wanted Britain, mostly.

Posted by: dagny

That, and the food.
Posted by: pep


No one wants British food. Not even Britons.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (6NpxV)

238 And the chicks. Those fat chicks...

At least the burkas keep them covered up now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (HaL55)

239 215 O'Rourke, the Irish twit, thinks that people turning in old rusted guns for cash in order to buy new guns or drugs equates to all of America.

The stupidity burns.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 09, 2019 10:30 AM (pRFRw)

Many times there are people offering more than the cops would for "interesting" guns people are going to turn in as junk.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (MwFQu)

240 There is also mythology that says that Dan traveled to Spain and then to Ireland (Hibernia) where they became the High Kings.

I once went High King on the Appalachian Trail.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (T6t7i)

241 This is why we can't have meaningful discussions with leftists. The entire premise of their world view is that man is inherently good perfectible, or at least can be made so if the right people are in charge. It's a complete denial of reality based on a refusal to look at the blindingly obvious facts...
Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (T6t7i)

FIFY

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer


This. These fuckers believe steel can forge itself basically. The idea of the imperfect perfecting itself is facially ludicrous. We don't even know what perfect would look like!

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:36 AM (AM1GF)

242 They went to Britain for the dental care.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019 10:36 AM (kjKrC)

243 My problem with art of this period is that they clothed people in contemporary styles rather than period clothing..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 09, 2019 10:36 AM (so+oy)

244
O'Rourke, the Irish twit, thinks that people turning in old rusted guns for cash in order to buy new guns or drugs equates to all of America.

Are we sure he isn't the result of one of those failed DNA experiments?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 09, 2019 10:37 AM (aKsyK)

245
This. These fuckers believe steel can forge itself basically. The idea of the imperfect perfecting itself is facially ludicrous. We don't even know what perfect would look like!

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:36 AM (AM1GF)

But imagine what gene editing will do to our sexual characteristics.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:37 AM (4i8PS)

246 I once went High King on the Appalachian Trail.

So did an idiot named Sanford, all the way down to Argentina. At least Samson was man enough to own up to his mistakes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:37 AM (yEzh6)

247 ... The idea of the imperfect perfecting itself is facially ludicrous. We don't even know what perfect would look like!
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:36 AM (AM1GF)

I'm betting something like Christie Brinkley + Raquel Welch + Angie Everhart.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:38 AM (bcbK8)

248 Tin is why the Romans wanted Britain, mostly.



Posted by: dagny



That, and the food.

Posted by: pep





No one wants British food. Not even Britons.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (6NpxV)

And soccer hooligans - good fighters - making for new legionary recruits.

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 10:38 AM (gmo/4)

249 The Romans went to Britain for the baths and slaves but mostly slaves.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 10:38 AM (YB89a)

250 But imagine what gene editing will do to our sexual characteristics.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:37 AM (4i8PS)

More human than human!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:38 AM (bcbK8)

251 Because in the case of kittehs they don't really do kidney transplants or even have many dialysis centers.

Seems like all it would require is a peristaltic pump and phlebotomy supplies.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 10:39 AM (xfb67)

252 And a dislocated hip?

Posted by: JAS at September 09, 2019 10:39 AM (dT9VH)

253 212 Any doctors here?

I lost another kitteh to renal failure and it made me wonder if you could hook up 2 people or kittehs so that they shared blood continuously. That way the party with the functioning kidneys would be performing the dialysis of the other.

Is this even possible?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 10:29 AM (xfb67)

Sounds like the lead in for another Blood Island sequel.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 09, 2019 10:39 AM (MwFQu)

254 Max Boot and his delusions of adequacy.

https://bit.ly/2kCwftn

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 10:39 AM (+y/Ru)

255 Marketing, "We can make Kate Upton for you!"
Manufacturing, "The boobs might be doable."
Salesman, "Here's the Doll Eyes Alex model."

Customer, "eeewwww!!!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:40 AM (yEzh6)

256 Fascinating puzzle. When I get time travel working, I'll check it out.

I hate to say this, but I checked the rest of the thread. You didn't get time travel working.

Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:40 AM (OiC69)

257 250 More human than human!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:38 AM (bcbK

She'll make you wish you had three hands.

Posted by: Allie at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (sm6Pk)

258 They don't believe in God or Heaven. So they want Heaven here on Earth. And they will kill anyone that gets in their way.

Posted by: JAS at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (dT9VH)

259 This is why we can't have meaningful discussions with leftists. The entire premise of their world view is that man is inherently good perfectible, or at least can be made so if the right people are in charge. It's a complete denial of reality based on a refusal to look at the blindingly obvious facts...
Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 09:58 AM (T6t7i)

FIFY

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer

This. These fuckers believe steel can forge itself basically. The idea of the imperfect perfecting itself is facially ludicrous. We don't even know what perfect would look like!
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil

.............

And all you need to do to prove this point is look at the inner cities.. hell holes that they have wrought.

They've been throwing money at these shit holes for 50-60 years, but the occupants of these cities prove them wrong every day by following their base instincts.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (so+oy)

260 Britain was quite important to the Empire, I believe Constantine was proclaimed emperor by his legions in York.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:33 AM (4i8PS)

Sure, but much later. The tin mines were the big original draw. There's a big chunk of time between Julius Caesar and Constantine. The Romans were in England 400 years, the same amount of time from Jamestown to now, here. The reasons for coming to Jamestown aren't the same as the reasons why the US is important now.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (nRWPy)

261 They were trying to create Khan Noonian Sign, instead that got Beta O'Rourke.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (yEzh6)

262 Hi, Folks-

Just checking in with a medical update and also a very interesting religious article. I had to go to the hospital overnight after I almost passed out at the supermarket after having incredible arrhythmia and palpitations and slurred speech. After every heart/ brain test known to mankind (well, that's an exaggeration, but it felt like that) they determined I did not have a TMI (mini stroke) or a heart attack. So I'm a medical mystery. Someone in my church suggested an anxiety attack, but if so, that's a new wrinkle in my medical condition because I've never had that before. Thanks for your prayers. A plus was that I had very interesting talks with the medical personnel about their work and also a talk with a Christian there about the importance of prayer. She brought it up. I didn't-maybe because she saw a Bible on my tray. I would have preferred to have discussions with people outside the hospital, however. And don't forget folks-please send your prayer requests to apaslo at sign hotmail.com so she can include them for Wednesday's list

Since I see we have a religious theme for today there is an article from the U.K. "Daily Mirror" about a man who is being considered for Sainthood in the RCC. If he becomes a Saint he will be the first English person to become a Saint in 50 years. Perhaps many RCs have heard of him. He was a war hero in WWII and went to help lepers in Zimbabwe as a Lay Franciscian and was martyred there. He was also a poet and a musician and inevitably cheerful. His name was John Randall Bradburn.

Posted by: Hoary Puffleg at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (j0JAA)

263 Is this even possible?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe


********

Some of the earliest work with open heart surgery (prior to the invention of heart-lung bypass machines) was done using cross-circulation. I believe dogs were the earliest successful ones. First used in humans in the mid 1950s


https://tinyurl.com/Lillehei-cross-circulation

Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (mvenn)

264 Whoops; Sorry about that folks. This is FenelonSpoke-obviously- I was using the name my husband had to post on here so now you know. He has posted more recently than I have. Still not adjusted to ASHQ though, Finds the conversations hard to follow.

Posted by: Hoary Puffleg at September 09, 2019 10:43 AM (j0JAA)

265 258 They don't believe in God or Heaven. So they want Heaven here on Earth. And they will kill anyone that gets in their way.
Posted by: JAS at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (dT9VH)

Exactly that. They think they can create an Earthly Paradise, and our refusal to get dragged into their scheme is the only thing that preventing it from coming into being.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 10:43 AM (J+mig)

266 257 250 More human than human!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:38 AM (bcbK

She'll make you wish you had three hands.
Posted by: Allie at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (sm6Pk)

Best reason to visit Mars.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:43 AM (bcbK8)

267 256 Fascinating puzzle. When I get time travel working, I'll check it out.

I hate to say this, but I checked the rest of the thread. You didn't get time travel working.
Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:40 AM (OiC69)

Give me Time

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:44 AM (bcbK8)

268 266 Best reason to visit Mars.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:43 AM (bcbK

Make sure to flash the Brubaker ID.

Posted by: Allie at September 09, 2019 10:44 AM (sm6Pk)

269 Another Arnold movie - Twins

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (yEzh6)

270 267 Give me Time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:44 AM (bcbK

*Summons Morris Day*

Posted by: Allie at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (sm6Pk)

271 260 Britain was quite important to the Empire, I believe Constantine was proclaimed emperor by his legions in York.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:33 AM (4i8PS)

Sure, but much later. The tin mines were the big original draw. There's a big chunk of time between Julius Caesar and Constantine. The Romans were in England 400 years, the same amount of time from Jamestown to now, here. The reasons for coming to Jamestown aren't the same as the reasons why the US is important now.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (nRWPy)

I think the tin was what made and kept it important. Post fall Britain is something of a backwater.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (4i8PS)

272 The ending of the Jacob - Esau story is when Jacob finally comes back to Canaan, roughly 15 years after he left. He's gotten rich, has his wives, and his children, and all his flocks of sheep and goats, and many servants/herdsmen to take care of them. *But* they are all still just a big family group, not any kind of fighting force at all. So Jacob travels down with his huge entourage of wives, children, animals and servants, and suddenly he gets news that Esau is coming to "greet" him - and Esau has 400 men with him, and they're riding hard.

This tells us what Esau has been doing in the intervening years - Esau has basically become a Bedouin raider, and not only is he a badass, Esau has got 400 badass followers on camels who ride and do whatever they want to whoever they want. It's pretty clear that Esau is the most powerful character in the area by now, in an age before there was any such thing as a "government". So Jacob is terrified, and puts his wives and his children out if front (what a coward! even at the end! Hiding behind his children) because all he can do is beg for mercy.

But, surprise to Jacob, Esau over the years has become merciful, and greets his brother warmly, welcoming him back. And he says that Jacob can have all of this herding business and living in nice tents, because all Esau has ever wanted to do was tear around the countryside with his 400 bad-ass followers and raise hell, and that's what he was going to continue to do. (and then supposedly his group becomes the Edomites)

Jacob had the family and the descendants, but Esau was *always* the stronger brother.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (Kpl3J)

273 Whoops; Sorry about that folks. This is FenelonSpoke-obviously- I was using the name my husband had to post on here so now you know. He has posted more recently than I have. Still not adjusted to ASHQ though, Finds the conversations hard to follow.
Posted by: Hoary Puffleg


Just let him know that it takes practice and to not give up.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (6NpxV)

274 267 256 Fascinating puzzle. When I get time travel working, I'll check it out.

I hate to say this, but I checked the rest of the thread. You didn't get time travel working.
Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:40 AM (OiC69)

Give me Time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:44 AM (bcbK

Time after time.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (MwFQu)

275 It is believed that the Sea People were accompanied on their long ocean voyages by their pet Sea Monkeys.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (amw5z)

276 Yikes, Fen! That's pretty scary...

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:46 AM (AM1GF)

277 I had a panic attack once. Flying on final into O'Hare at night after 9/11. Not fun.

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 10:46 AM (gmo/4)

278 277 I had a panic attack once. Flying on final into O'Hare at night after 9/11. Not fun.
Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 10:46 AM (gmo/4)

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Get a comfort pony.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (amw5z)

279 More human than human!

The bad news is they'll also find the Gay Vegan Gene and put that into everyone.

Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (C78No)

280 My Little Comfort Pony?

Awkward.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (yEzh6)

281 My cousin was diagnosed with Hoary Puffleg.
Picked it up in Tijuana, I think.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (88+cf)

282 Just checking in with a medical update and also a
very interesting religious article. I had to go to the hospital
overnight after I almost passed out at the supermarket after having
incredible arrhythmia and palpitations and slurred speech.

Posted by: Hoary Puffleg at September 09, 2019 10:41 AM (j0JAA)

Dehydration will do that.

Posted by: creeper at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (IBQUk)

283 168 I want I'll
ask their wives to stop having sex with them."


These twits imagine women not wanting sex. You gotta wonder how f-ing frigid, nasty, and abnormal they are. Why should I give up sex? It's like parents who take TV away from kids because they've been bothersome. Yeah, that'll get you more peace. That punishes whom?
Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 10:21 AM (nRWPy)

My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (NWiLs)

284 The scene is one of the stories from the Old Testament that seem to reward lies and let the faithful and innocent carry the burden of the lies. I'm no Biblical scholar (incredible understatement) but this story of injustice is very irritating.
=============
Essau was not without agency. He's not faithful and not innocent. He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew. He sold his connection to his father, for bean soup. It's mind boggling stupidity.

That's the warning to us all. Don't let your appetite for the world be an excuse to do something that has long term --eternal-- consequences.

Posted by: simplemind at September 09, 2019 10:48 AM (y4WjF)

285 Bad Anxiety Attacks can cause Passing out, it has happened to me a couple of times, Scared the Hell out of me the 1st time

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 10:48 AM (BqBId)

286 Fascinating puzzle. When I get time travel working, I'll check it out.

I hate to say this, but I checked the rest of the thread. You didn't get time travel working.
Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:40 AM (OiC69)

Give me Time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,


Well, you didn't get it working by Thanksgiving.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:49 AM (6NpxV)

287 #262

Link about John Randall Bradburne, the convert to the RCC who is being considered for Sainthood. I am intrigued by a man who was a was a poet and musician and a deeply spiritual person who was inevitably cheerful even when caring for lepers. I bet St Francis would approve.

https://tinyurl.com/ycz4apak

Back to my break.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 09, 2019 10:49 AM (j0JAA)

288 Reading that post I wondered if it were you, Fen.

I get dehydrated easily. The last time it happened I passed out and totaled the car. Thank dog for air bags.

Keep water with you at all times. Drink lots of it. We tend not to do that as we get older.

Posted by: creeper at September 09, 2019 10:49 AM (IBQUk)

289 Take care Fen

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:49 AM (yEzh6)

290 Good god. Over at the The Hill, another article on sharpiegate.

You've got to be kidding me.

Posted by: WisRich at September 09, 2019 10:49 AM (G0vdT)

291 286 Fascinating puzzle. When I get time travel working, I'll check it out.

I hate to say this, but I checked the rest of the thread. You didn't get time travel working.
Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:40 AM (OiC69)

Give me Time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,


Well, you didn't get it working by Thanksgiving.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:49 AM (6NpxV)

*Eyes Rickb*

And how do YOU know?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:50 AM (bcbK8)

292 These twits imagine women not wanting sex. You gotta wonder how f-ing frigid, nasty, and abnormal they are.

--------

You have to admit, it would make a great play though.

Posted by: Aristophanes at September 09, 2019 10:50 AM (amw5z)

293 Is that a bandage on his head? Horde Emergency Medicine? He's gonna die.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 10:50 AM (Zv1X1)

294 *Eyes Rickb*

And how do YOU know?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards



*whistles innocently*

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:51 AM (6NpxV)

295 He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew.

Wow, that really was stupid.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:51 AM (T6t7i)

296 198 I was excited to see the Eagles beat the Redskins yesterday, but I'm getting really fed up with all the local hipster sports writers who make a show of not saying "Redskins." Poll after poll has shown that 90% of Native Americans don't care. Stop playing white savior for people who don't want to be "saved."
----------------------
Biggs, its obvious that the eggles snoted coke at half time. That is one old football club. The Skins dominated the first half with younguns. We've got Dallas this week at home. If the Skins can finish the first six games around .500 then they will be a force on the back half of the season. Methinks the eggles are the oldest team in the NFC east.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 09, 2019 10:51 AM (2LelM)

297 Pretty good chance the uranium in Iran is ours.

It'd only take one additional shipment to straighten their turbans out permanently.

Posted by: DaveA at September 09, 2019 10:51 AM (FhXTo)

298 Yep. I was having lunch at windows on the world just a week before 9/11. Put a little mind freak on me for a short period of time. I'm fine with flying now.

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 10:52 AM (gmo/4)

299 The bad news is they'll also find the Gay Vegan Gene and put that into everyone.

Posted by: t-bird


That's not far from what they're trying to do. Some combination of brain implants and genetic engineering to weed out aggression is a favorite.

Some idiot on io9 proposed eliminating carnivorousness, changing animals into plant-eaters wholesale. It's one of the few cases I ever saw where the entire readership rose as one to ridicule and condemn what even we would consider an Obvious Bad Idea.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:52 AM (AM1GF)

300 Welp, time for work.

Have fun today, Horde.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:52 AM (bcbK8)

301 Video of cross circulation technique. Skip ahead to about the 10:13 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
sAS4jGu4mnQ

(remove space)

Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 10:52 AM (mvenn)

302 Whoops; Sorry about that folks. This is FenelonSpoke-obviously- I was using the name my husband had to post on here so now you know. He has posted more recently than I have. Still not adjusted to ASHQ though, Finds the conversations hard to follow.
Posted by: Hoary Puffleg
......

Hey Fen..a suggestion..

When I use my wife's computer, I use a completely different browser so none of my stuff shows up on her pages.

Not that she would ever come to AoS.. but stuff like searching for a web site, etc.. it keeps it all separate. She uses Chrome.. I use Firefox on her PC.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 09, 2019 10:53 AM (so+oy)

303 Well this is interesting. CNN is reporting that the CIA pulled a confidential source ( a spy) who was in Russia and providing information on Putin since 2017.

Ignore the CNN spin, the CIA has had a Russian spy under it's control since 2017?

https://tinyurl.com/y37duahl

hmmmm

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 10:53 AM (ZLI7S)

304 Well, you didn't get it working by Thanksgiving.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:49 AM (6NpxV)

*Eyes Rickb*

And how do YOU know?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch


Because it was the only way to prevent the rise of the Greater Toledo Co-Prosperity Sphere. Trust me, the delay is worth it.

Posted by: Cavil ca. 2025 at September 09, 2019 10:53 AM (AM1GF)

305 299 Some idiot on io9 proposed eliminating carnivorousness, changing animals into plant-eaters wholesale. It's one of the few cases I ever saw where the entire readership rose as one to ridicule and condemn what even we would consider an Obvious Bad Idea.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, paging Dr. Frankenstein on the green courtesy phone at September 09, 2019 10:52 AM (AM1GF)

=========

He's just ahead of his time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 10:54 AM (iikV8)

306 That io9 idiot did not get the message of Jurassic Park...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:54 AM (yEzh6)

307 I don't think they have any comprehension of what a Pandora's Box they're playing with.

Oh I think they have some conception of the dangers, but they are more excited by what the possibilities are and think its worth the risk.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 10:54 AM (KZzsI)

308 173 You know who got a raw deal? Esau.

Fuck Jacob and fuck that bitch Rebekah.

Taking advantage of a blind man...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 10:22 AM (bcbK

Word.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:55 AM (NWiLs)

309 Best to you, Fenelon.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 09, 2019 10:55 AM (19g6/)

310 My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (NWiLs)


Thats when you find a piece of that new pie, and wildly giggle internally the next time they pull that stunt.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 10:55 AM (9Om/r)

311
That's not far from what they're trying to do. Some combination of brain implants and genetic engineering to weed out aggression is a favorite.

--------

We can't even make Social Security work but somehow we're smart enough to re-engineer all of nature. Hmm.

I got a bad feeling about this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 10:55 AM (amw5z)

312 Get a comfort pony.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (amw5z)

LOL> Fuckin Cic. Only thing better than emergency medicine here is psychological advice.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 10:55 AM (Zv1X1)

313 295 He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew.

Wow, that really was stupid.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 10:51 AM (T6t7i)

He was hungry and exhausted at the time, characterizing himself as being at the point of death.

I would say Jacob's actions throughout were unnecessary. David did not make any moves to accelerate what was to come to him, instead being steadfast towards Saul.


Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:56 AM (4i8PS)

314 My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.

Posted by: Insomniac


Cow-orker once claimed that his wife couldn't cut him off.

Because she didn't know where he got it.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:57 AM (6NpxV)

315 284
The scene is one of the stories from the Old Testament that seem to
reward lies and let the faithful and innocent carry the burden of the
lies. I'm no Biblical scholar (incredible understatement) but this story
of injustice is very irritating.

=============

Essau was not without agency. He's not faithful and not innocent.
He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew. He sold his connection to
his father, for bean soup. It's mind boggling stupidity.



That's the warning to us all. Don't let your appetite for the
world be an excuse to do something that has long term --eternal--
consequences.

Posted by: simplemind at September 09, 2019 10:48 AM (y4WjF)

The entire story arc of Jacob is about Jacob's redemption. The point is not that Jacob's lies were rewarded, but that he is a shit and he is redeemed through struggle and by the grace of God.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 10:57 AM (CPk08)

316 When the high chant of the Church of Liberalism is, "The ends justify the means and abortion is sacred."

Then whats a few deplorables getting errant DNA code that turns them into monsters if they can perfect the perfect citizen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 10:57 AM (yEzh6)

317 281 My cousin was diagnosed with Hoary Puffleg.
Picked it up in Tijuana, I think.
Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (88+cf)

Some tequila and penicillin will solve that.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:57 AM (RD7QR)

318 Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2019 10:40 AM (OiC69)

Give me Time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,

To realize your crime?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:57 AM (NWiLs)

319 Get a comfort pony.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (amw5z)

LOL> Fuckin Cic. Only thing better than emergency medicine here is psychological advice.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob


Full service Doc-in-a-Box.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:57 AM (6NpxV)

320 OT:

I'm gonna close the movie survey in a couple of hours.

If you haven't voted and want to, get it in now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 10:58 AM (iikV8)

321 Time after time.

Time Again - Asia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9xiZvNJPdc

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 10:58 AM (HaL55)

322 303 Well this is interesting. CNN is reporting that the CIA pulled a confidential source ( a spy) who was in Russia and providing information on Putin since 2017.

Ignore the CNN spin, the CIA has had a Russian spy under it's control since 2017?

https://tinyurl.com/y37duahl

hmmmm
Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 10:53 AM (ZLI7S)

Isn't that their job? And how does CNN know this? Seems to me that would burn a lot of people.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

323 Too busy to scroll through. Did somebody already say Santa Claus?
Because....Santa Claus.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (iAwUQ)

324 310 My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (NWiLs)


Thats when you find a piece of that new pie, and wildly giggle internally the next time they pull that stunt.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 10:55 AM (9Om/r)

Well...I was one of those stupid guys who actually kept his vows despite all the shit my wife pulled.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (NWiLs)

325 Horde-sourced psychological counseling is the best psychological counseling.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (amw5z)

326 No one wants British food. Not even Britons.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 10:35 AM (6NpxV)

Tut, tut, old bean. We have the best Indian and Chinese food in the world.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (VJZgq)

327 322 303 Well this is interesting. CNN is reporting that the CIA pulled a confidential source ( a spy) who was in Russia and providing information on Putin since 2017.

Ignore the CNN spin, the CIA has had a Russian spy under it's control since 2017?

https://tinyurl.com/y37duahl

hmmmm
Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 10:53 AM (ZLI7S)

Isn't that their job? And how does CNN know this? Seems to me that would burn a lot of people.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

============

"I always though Gary wasn't a very Russian sounding name..."
-Gary's former coworkers

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (iikV8)

328 Essau was not without agency. He's not faithful and not innocent.
He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew.


EWWWWW. Never bargain for used food, folks.

Posted by: Cavil ca. 2025 at September 09, 2019 11:00 AM (AM1GF)

329 Oh I think they have some conception of the dangers, but they are more excited by what the possibilities are and think its worth the risk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 10:54 AM (KZzsI)



Have this debate with a "space" friend periodically. I tell him that as a safety professional, I'm appalled by the safety record of the space shuttles, which had 2 multi-fatality flight in only 130 attempts (Admittedly, I troll him a little on this subject.). But he also gets more excited by the possibilities than he gets concerned about the risks, so then the fight is on.

Posted by: Ted K. at September 09, 2019 11:00 AM (FJYfm)

330 323 Too busy to scroll through. Did somebody already say Santa Claus?
Because....Santa Claus.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (iAwUQ)

---------

You're the first. Collect your prize at the cashier's window near the exit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 11:00 AM (amw5z)

331 So 2 days straight where Drudge thinks the headline story is a pathetic and disgraced Republican Mark Sanford running for President against Trump in the GOP primary.

Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2019 11:00 AM (sjTfF)

332 You guys are quacks.

Posted by: Lucy at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (Zv1X1)

333 Well this is interesting. CNN is reporting that the CIA pulled a confidential source ( a spy) who was in Russia and providing information on Putin since 2017.

Ignore the CNN spin, the CIA has had a Russian spy under it's control since 2017?

https://tinyurl.com/y37duahl
==========
really CNN, haven't you done enough harm yet?

Posted by: simplemind at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (/cUA2)

334 308 173 You know who got a raw deal? Esau.

Fuck Jacob and fuck that bitch Rebekah.

Taking advantage of a blind man...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"

This points to what I said are the subtleties of the story - it looks at first like Jacob has won some big victory with his sneakiness, but what did he win, actually? He had to high-tail it out of there for 15 years while Esau took over, that's what he won. And he got cheated himself in return for all his cheating.

A similar thing is in play in all of the stories about multiple marriages in Genesis and elsewhere. The Bible never explicitly says that they are wrong - BUT every time there is more than one wife and more than one set of children, that family is filled with intrigues, plotting, and murder. It always goes badly. Those characters who have only one wife and who stick with her, they have peaceful, happy, stable lives and are set forth as models of virtue. It's an important lesson written into the circumstances of the stories, even though it isn't stated overtly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (Kpl3J)

335 Isn't that their job? And how does CNN know this? Seems to me that would burn a lot of people.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

Yeah. When the "media" runs stories on "Secret" meetings et al. Lulz.On the other/other hand, the leftist media, if they every DID get their hands on something like that, would burn 1000 assets and get hundreds killed and destroy our intelligence efforts for decades if they thought it would hurt Orange Man in the polls somehow.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (iAwUQ)

336 Essau was not without agency. He's not faithful and not innocent. He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew.
=========

Pffftt! I sold my soul for a bowel full of semen!

Posted by: Mayor Buttplug at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (vg8iE)

337 Time after time.

Time Again - Asia:

Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper:

https://youtu.be/VdQY7BusJNU

This is the song that convinced me that she wasn't just some dumb pop party girl. She was actually quite talented.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (KZzsI)

338 325 Horde-sourced psychological counseling is the best psychological counseling.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (amw5z)

When it comes to issues, we've got 'em all.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 11:02 AM (NWiLs)

339 Essau was not without agency. He's not faithful and not innocent.
He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew.

EWWWWW. Never bargain for used food, folks.
=========
Well, it was in a bowl, and then eventually in his bowel.

Posted by: typos are the bane of my excresence at September 09, 2019 11:02 AM (EXUbB)

340 327 322 303 Well this is interesting. CNN is reporting that the CIA pulled a confidential source ( a spy) who was in Russia and providing information on Putin since 2017.

Ignore the CNN spin, the CIA has had a Russian spy under it's control since 2017?

https://tinyurl.com/y37duahl

hmmmm
Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 10:53 AM (ZLI7S)

Isn't that their job? And how does CNN know this? Seems to me that would burn a lot of people.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

============

"I always though Gary wasn't a very Russian sounding name..."
-Gary's former coworkers
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (iikV

I read the article (God help me). Under other circumstances I might actually be concerned, but considering the shit that's been said about the Donald just out of bureaucratic spite I don't believe a word of it. That's bad. It might actually be a valid complaint. But the media and the IC have so savaged their reputations that I just dismiss it.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (RD7QR)

341 Is that a bandage on his head? Horde Emergency Medicine? He's gonna die.

Hot. Iron.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (HaL55)

342 328
Essau was not without agency. He's not faithful and not innocent.

He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew.



EWWWWW. Never bargain for used food, folks.


i dunno. we could be talking dinty moore here...

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (sGtp+)

343 Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Zv1X1)

344 A bowel of stool.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (MSTWM)

345 Horde-sourced psychological counseling is the best psychological counseling.
Posted by: Cicero


When it comes to issues, we've got 'em all.
Posted by: Insomniac


Like Farmer's Insurance - We've seen things.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (6NpxV)

346 281 My cousin was diagnosed with Hoary Puffleg.

Picked it up in Tijuana, I think.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2019 10:47 AM (88+cf)



Some tequila and penicillin will solve that.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:57 AM (RD7QR)


That's what happens when you go to those cheap tattoo places.

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (gmo/4)

347 Well...I was one of those stupid guys who actually kept his vows despite all the shit my wife pulled.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (NWiLs)

Well, you're not alone. I have seen that before, and from people who should have known better.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (9Om/r)

348 Have this debate with a "space" friend periodically.
I tell him that as a safety professional, I'm appalled by the safety
record of the space shuttles, which had 2 multi-fatality flight in only
130 attempts (Admittedly, I troll him a little on this subject.). But he
also gets more excited by the possibilities than he gets concerned
about the risks, so then the fight is on.

Posted by: Ted K. at September 09, 2019 11:00 AM (FJYfm)

There's nothing out there but rocks. The science is great but seriously, bring us back a few thousand tons of oil, diamonds or gold from some of those rocks and then yeah, I'm okay with spending my money in space. Investors would love this. THAT'S how the space program will be privatized.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 09, 2019 11:04 AM (iAwUQ)

349 I'd like to buy a bowel, Pat.

Posted by: Esau at September 09, 2019 11:04 AM (amw5z)

350 Morning all.. Wake up to day to Blue Texas! Blue wave!

Posted by: It's me donna at September 09, 2019 11:04 AM (O2RFr)

351 Post fall Britain is something of a backwater.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (4i8PS)

Yep, it was a backwater for a long time. What really "made" England? Pirates.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 11:05 AM (nRWPy)

352
Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Zv1X1)


Why do people hang from metal hooks in their flesh?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:05 AM (9Om/r)

353 A similar thing is in play in all of the stories about multiple marriages in Genesis and elsewhere. The Bible never explicitly says that they are wrong - BUT every time there is more than one wife and more than one set of children, that family is filled with intrigues, plotting, and murder. It always goes badly. Those characters who have only one wife and who stick with her, they have peaceful, happy, stable lives and are set forth as models of virtue. It's an important lesson written into the circumstances of the stories, even though it isn't stated overtly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (Kpl3J)


I think I need to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 09, 2019 11:05 AM (+aReV)

354 Well, it was in a bowl, and then eventually in his bowel.

Posted by: typos are the bane of my excresence at September 09, 2019 11:02 AM (EXUbB)

Well Pep, i was gonna break your balls about it but it seems I caught Apple dumpling the other day which led to apple puns up the ass. So I let it go.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:06 AM (Zv1X1)

355 339 Essau was not without agency. He's not faithful and not innocent.
He sold his birthright for a bowel of stew.

EWWWWW. Never bargain for used food, folks.
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Well, it was in a bowl, and then eventually in his bowel.
Posted by: typos are the bane of my excresence at September 09, 2019 11:02 AM (EXUbB)

Chitlins

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 11:06 AM (NWiLs)

356
Well...I was one of those stupid guys who actually kept his vows despite all the shit my wife pulled.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (NWiLs)

If it's any consolation, I believe God looks favorably on that.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 11:06 AM (4i8PS)

357 bring us back a few thousand tons of oil, diamonds or gold from some of those rocks and then yeah, I'm okay with spending my money in space. Investors would love this. THAT'S how the space program will be privatized.

If we had the same sense of adventure, exploration, and same willingness to take risks as, say, the great ship explorers of the past... we'd already be mining asteroids and the dark side of the moon.

Instead there's one damned accident with the shuttle program and Reagan shuts it down for a decade.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 11:06 AM (KZzsI)

358 352
Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Zv1X1)


Why do people hang from metal hooks in their flesh?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:05 AM (9Om/r)

Well, one involves sex and the other involves...metal hooks.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 11:06 AM (RD7QR)

359 There's nothing out there but rocks. The science is great but seriously, bring us back a few thousand tons of oil, diamonds or gold from some of those rocks and then yeah, I'm okay with spending my money in space. Investors would love this. THAT'S how the space program will be privatized.
Posted by: Agent Cooper


Rare Earf Minerals.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2019 11:07 AM (6NpxV)

360 Well Pep, i was gonna break your balls about it but
it seems I caught Apple dumpling the other day which led to apple puns
up the ass. So I let it go.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob


Not mine. I copied and pasted. I did neglect to bold it, though.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 11:07 AM (T6t7i)

361 This is the song that convinced me that she wasn't just some dumb pop party girl. She was actually quite talented.

Agreed. She even tried her hand at singing the blues.

Once.

Always had a soft spot for her musically. Liked her radio stuff. Plus she was cute.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 11:07 AM (HaL55)

362 351 Post fall Britain is something of a backwater.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 10:45 AM (4i8PS)

Yep, it was a backwater for a long time. What really "made" England? Pirates.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 11:05 AM (nRWPy)

Francis Drake pirates or the vikings? I'm inclined to attribute a good deal of their mercantile success to the Dutch.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 11:07 AM (4i8PS)

363 Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Zv1X1)

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You can have sex with one while the other takes note for the critical review later on.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 11:08 AM (amw5z)

364 Well, one involves sex and the other involves...metal hooks.
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SEX?!!?! No no no. He said "wife" which means marriage. Which means no sex.

Posted by: married 'rons at September 09, 2019 11:08 AM (KpOSn)

365 Well, in all honesty, the space shuttle looked like it was engineered by Wile E. Coyote.

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 11:08 AM (gmo/4)

366 Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?



Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Zv1X1)





Why do people hang from metal hooks in their flesh?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:05 AM (9Om/r)



Well, one involves sex and the other involves...metal hooks.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 11:06 AM (RD7QR)


Both involve people who get off on inflicting pain on themselves. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:08 AM (9Om/r)

367 Well, one involves sex and the other involves...metal hooks.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 11:06 AM (RD7QR)

Hooking is a very popular category of sex.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 11:09 AM (VJZgq)

368 >> Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?


Because one wife doesn't talk nearly enough?

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 11:09 AM (ViZFb)

369 If we had the same sense of adventure, exploration, and same willingness to take risks as, say, the great ship explorers of the past... we'd already be mining asteroids and the dark side of the moon.

Instead there's one damned accident with the shuttle program and Reagan shuts it down for a decade.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 11:06 AM (KZzsI)

Columbus had to present his expedition as potentially profitable.

Fun fact, people knew how large the world was and that it was round, they just thought it was empty water in that direction.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (4i8PS)

370 Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?


Because one wife doesn't talk nearly enough?
==========
Spend nearly enough?

Posted by: married 'rons at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (KpOSn)

371 CNN is anything but.

Posted by: klaftern at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (RuIsu)

372 My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.


I know it happens regularly. But it's stupid and self-harm. Like hunger strikes, inherently stupid.


As I've told the occasional teen tantrum that flounces off from the dinner table, good--don't eat. That'll teach me. To me it just says, "Frigid and/or stupid."

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (nRWPy)

373 Well, in all honesty, the space shuttle looked like it was engineered by Wile E. Coyote.
Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 11:08 AM (gmo/4)

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To be fair, NASA did bar Acme from future shuttle contracts for a year after the Challenger exploded.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (amw5z)

374 The lesson is that God can build with even the crookedest timber.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 09:51 AM (hLRSq)

He built His church completely out of fallen sinners.

Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (0yxK0)

375 >>My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.


But, only from her husband.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 11:11 AM (ViZFb)

376 Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?


Because one wife doesn't talk nearly enough?
==========
Spend nearly enough?
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Hey, who wouldn't want an extra mother-in-law?

Posted by: married 'rons at September 09, 2019 11:11 AM (/cUA2)

377 My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.

Posted by: Insomniac

That would happen exactly once.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 11:11 AM (YB89a)

378 Not mine. I copied and pasted. I did neglect to bold it, though.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2019 11:07 AM (T6t7i)

My mistake pep. Apologies. thats why i paste the commenter, but that seems to be not a thing anymore. Reason?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:12 AM (Zv1X1)

379 347 Well...I was one of those stupid guys who actually kept his vows despite all the shit my wife pulled.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (NWiLs)

You probably already know, as most serious people realize through life, that you keep vows because they are vows to YOURSELF, not to others. What others do reflects on them, not on you. Now it sounds like you may have stayed in a situation longer than was wise, but that's a whole different issue. But dropping down to the level of the low people around one never uplifts a person.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:12 AM (Kpl3J)

380 My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.



Posted by: Insomniac



That would happen exactly once.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 11:11 AM (YB89a)


This dude gets it!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:13 AM (9Om/r)

381 Spend nearly enough?
Posted by: married 'rons at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (KpOSn)

IDK, my husband complains about my inherent frugality. I think it's the scots blood line.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 11:13 AM (nRWPy)

382 363 Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Zv1X1)

----------

You can have sex with one while the other takes note for the critical review later on.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 11:08 AM (amw5z)


Oh my! It looks like he only got a 7.9 score from the Russian wife.

Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2019 11:14 AM (0yxK0)

383 347 Well...I was one of those stupid guys who actually kept his vows despite all the shit my wife pulled.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (NWiLs)

Well, you're not alone. I have seen that before, and from people who should have known better.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (9Om/r)

Yep. I was stupid and foolish.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 11:14 AM (NWiLs)

384 Columbus had to present his expedition as potentially profitable.

Only for the funding. But there's money out there to be had. Trillions of dollars. Its just a question of getting out there to get at it. Its going to be risky and expensive as hell at first but once you get it down, its going to be like dumptrucks of cash. NOBODY OWNS ANYTHING OUT THERE

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 11:14 AM (KZzsI)

385 Spend nearly enough?
Posted by: married 'rons at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (KpOSn)

IDK, my husband complains about my inherent frugality. I think it's the scots blood line.
======
You're a keeper.

Posted by: Obviously at September 09, 2019 11:14 AM (/cUA2)

386 "Ignore the CNN spin, the CIA has had a Russian spy under it's control since 2017?"

I thought CNN said they decided to extract him in 2017, and a White House spokesman said CNN's stories about Trump and the spy were inaccurate and could put people at risk. Cnn also said they considered removing the spy in 2016. So they can't blame that on Trump.


And since it is all TopSecret, seems odd that CNN knows all about it, unless it comes from the DeepState spies (domestic enemies) that took control of our IC, and still runs ops through our media against POTUS. And if we still had spies in Moscow on the inside, it might be good to float a lie that "we lost all our spies". idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2019 11:14 AM (Cus5s)

387 375 >>My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.
But, only from her husband.
Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 11:11 AM (ViZFb)

My wife, I tell ya, my wife, she cut me back to twice a week! But I'm lucky, I tell ya, lucky! Two guys she cut off completely!!!

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at September 09, 2019 11:14 AM (Kpl3J)

388 382 363 Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Zv1X1)

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You can have sex with one while the other takes note for the critical review later on.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 11:08 AM (amw5z)


Oh my! It looks like he only got a 7.9 score from the Russian wife.
Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2019 11:14 AM (0yxK0)

It's because he went straight for the clitoris.

Posted by: Wife #2 at September 09, 2019 11:15 AM (RD7QR)

389 https://bloom.bg/2Q0Ef6C
*******
Trump Ally Sees Google Backsliding on Vow to Cooperate in Probe - Bloomberg

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 11:15 AM (BqBId)

390 375 >>My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.

But, only from her husband.
Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 11:11 AM (ViZFb


Step-by-step guides that show wives how to sexually manipulate their husbands are available online.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 09, 2019 11:15 AM (+aReV)

391 And since it is all TopSecret, seems odd that CNN knows all about it, unless it comes from the DeepState spies (domestic enemies) that took control of our IC, and still runs ops through our media against POTUS."

As soon as I saw that story, I thought "anything on the CIA that is on CNN came straight from Brennan."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:15 AM (Kpl3J)

392 381 Spend nearly enough?
Posted by: married 'rons at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (KpOSn)

IDK, my husband complains about my inherent frugality. I think it's the scots blood line.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 11:13 AM (nRWPy)
For all the complaints that are made about women in the Bible, frivolous spending doesn't seem to be one of them. May be a modern cultural thing.


Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 11:15 AM (4i8PS)

393 There's nothing out there but rocks. The science is great but seriously,
bring us back a few thousand tons of oil, diamonds or gold from some of
those rocks and then yeah, I'm okay with spending my money in space.
Investors would love this. THAT'S how the space program will be
privatized.


There should be some serious efforts to do some interesting manufacturing in LEO. There's been some RampersandD along those lines for years, but nothing scalable so far. I think what they're looking for is a fully automated system that takes materials into LEO where they can be combined in the absence of gravity then returned to Earf to be processed further into useful items.


I see my SpaceSport game as the way to popularize space tourism, which is how it will actually happen. See a sport played in Zero-G live! This would require regular flights, which is something we can already do now more cheaply than ever thanks to the free market.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 11:16 AM (HaL55)

394 377 My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.

Posted by: Insomniac

That would happen exactly once.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 11:11 AM (YB89a)

And then what? You get cleaned out anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 11:16 AM (NWiLs)

395 So, how about that Coast Guard, huh?

Magnificent crazy bastards.

That boat full of BMW's? I say the coasties get them. Right of salvors.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 09, 2019 11:16 AM (8ZmvG)

396 Well...I was one of those stupid guys who actually kept his vows despite all the shit my wife pulled.



Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (NWiLs)



You probably already know, as most serious people realize through
life, that you keep vows because they are vows to YOURSELF, not to
others. What others do reflects on them, not on you. Now it sounds
like you may have stayed in a situation longer than was wise, but that's
a whole different issue. But dropping down to the level of the low
people around one never uplifts a person.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:12 AM (Kpl3J)

I just buried a lifelong friend who tried playing it straight. His bitch ex wife manipulated him right into the fucking grave. Had he worried more about winning the frigging war he would still be alive. Sometimes it don't pay to play GOPe.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:17 AM (9Om/r)

397 " NOBODY OWNS ANYTHING OUT THERE"

We rate this statement as 'False'

Posted by: Islam's Faith Tradition at September 09, 2019 11:17 AM (cqNba)

398
The Chinese are already doing this.

Posted by: pep


It takes communists to create massive human catastrophes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2019 11:17 AM (ifgto)

399 Only for the funding. But there's money out there to be had. Trillions of dollars. Its just a question of getting out there to get at it. Its going to be risky and expensive as hell at first but once you get it down, its going to be like dumptrucks of cash. NOBODY OWNS ANYTHING OUT THERE
==========
I think I saw there was an asteroid out by Saturn that was supposedly worth 96 quadrillion dollars. The way the universe works, the costs of getting it, processing it etc will be just about break even. But 1% of 96 quadrillion is a lot of money. That 1% will come out of the labor costs - cause that's how we roll!!

Posted by: Humans expendable resources at September 09, 2019 11:17 AM (KpOSn)

400 Well...I was one of those stupid guys who actually kept his vows despite all the shit my wife pulled.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 10:59 AM (NWiLs)

You probably already know, as most serious people realize through life, that you keep vows because they are vows to YOURSELF, not to others. What others do reflects on them, not on you. Now it sounds like you may have stayed in a situation longer than was wise, but that's a whole different issue. But dropping down to the level of the low people around one never uplifts a person.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:12 AM (Kpl3J)


My experience in working with lots of men who have been hurt by women is that they hold onto the hurt, for a variety of reasons, and it never does them a lick of good.

If there is to be resolution, it is precisely where you suggest: In finding the peace from knowing you did what you said you would, that you have integrity, and that you do the right thing, REGARDLESS of what the other person does.

Personal integrity doesn't make one a chump, and having been duped in the past doesn't mean it will happen again. Learn from the past, then let it go.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2019 11:17 AM (cY3LT)

401 >>I just buried a lifelong friend who tried playing it straight.


My best friend is in the boat.
Nicest guy on earth.
Best father anyone could hoppe to have.
...and a wife that doesn't appreciate ANY of it.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 11:18 AM (ViZFb)

402 Nood meatball sub

Posted by: Off the reservation at September 09, 2019 11:19 AM (vWMNq)

403
Isn't that their job? And how does CNN know this? Seems to me that would burn a lot of people.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 09, 2019 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

Because it allows CNN one more opportunity to show a photo of Trump and Putin together?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 09, 2019 11:19 AM (NFEMn)

404 You can have sex with one while the other takes note for the critical review later on.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 09, 2019 11:08 AM (amw5z)


Oh my! It looks like he only got a 7.9 score from the Russian wife.
Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2019 11:14 AM (0yxK0)

It's because he went straight for the clitoris.
Posted by: Wife #2 at September 09, 2019 11:15 AM (RD7QR)

I know we make fun of the sitcom Friends but there is one episode scene that is pretty good. It was Monica explaining the proper sex technique by numbering the body parts and going through how they should be manipulated.

1 2 3 4 2 2 3 4 2 3 4 3 4 3 4 4 444444444

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 11:19 AM (YB89a)

405 Gee. A wife bashing thread. That's pleasant.

I guess I have been fortunate and blessed to have a mutually satisfying long-term stable partnership with a wonderful woman.

Sorry for those of you who haven't.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 11:19 AM (mvenn)

406 IDK, my husband complains about my inherent frugality. I think it's the scots blood line.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 11:13 AM (nRWPy)

For those who don't understand, we Scots are a notoriously stingy people.

There's an old story about a Scotsman who prayed every night to win the lottery. Night after night, year after year, he fervently besought The Lord. Finally, a voice came booming down from the heavens. "Will you at least meet me halfway and buy a bloody ticket?"

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 09, 2019 11:19 AM (J+mig)

407 392 381 Spend nearly enough?
Posted by: married 'rons at September 09, 2019 11:10 AM (KpOSn)

IDK, my husband complains about my inherent frugality. I think it's the scots blood line.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 11:13 AM (nRWPy)
For all the complaints that are made about women in the Bible, frivolous spending doesn't seem to be one of them. May be a modern cultural thing.


Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 11:15 AM (4i8PS)

Oh Lord...had that too. She spent money faster than I could make it, as if that was her job. Racked up tens of thousands of dollars in consumer debt, but I was the asshole for being upset about it. Go figure.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 11:20 AM (NWiLs)

408 They saw no trees, assumed there was no art, and dissipated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 09:45 AM


Let noone say this man does not understand The Horde nor Fine Art.

Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at September 09, 2019 11:20 AM (XChUy)

409 My ex-wife would withhold sex as a means of manipulation and punishment. It happens.



Posted by: Insomniac



That would happen exactly once.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 11:11 AM (YB89a)



And then what? You get cleaned out anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 11:16 AM (NWiLs)

Its about mental health. If you let them take your balls you are finished. Its just how it is.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:20 AM (9Om/r)

410 Vows said are to God, not yourself. People don't comprehend that any more nor understand how serious that is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2019 11:20 AM (KZzsI)

411 I think I saw there was an asteroid out by Saturn that was supposedly worth 96 quadrillion dollars. The way the universe works, the costs of getting it, processing it etc will be just about break even. But 1% of 96 quadrillion is a lot of money. That 1% will come out of the labor costs - cause that's how we roll!!

Posted by: Humans expendable resources at September 09, 2019 11:17 AM (KpOSn)

I don't see how that could be possible, it dramatically exceeds the asset value of the world. Any influx of that magnitude would crash prices.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 11:20 AM (4i8PS)

412 Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 11:07 AM (4i8PS)


It was an innovation in ship design by "privateers" that propelled England forward as a sea power. Of course the technological innovation was due to privateers really being pirates. Had they not had that, the Spanish Armada would have been successful. Early Tudor England was far behind the continent, Elizabeth couldn't even pay her armies and navies. Of course, other advancements followed and the primogeniture rule helped them maintain some stability, but those ships began their mastering the seas.

There's a lot of fascinating history in the technological innovations that allowed the english to not be the victim of Spain. It was much closer a contest than we imagine.

Posted by: dagny at September 09, 2019 11:20 AM (nRWPy)

413 Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:12 AM (Kpl3J)

I just buried a lifelong friend who tried playing it straight. His bitch ex wife manipulated him right into the fucking grave. Had he worried more about winning the frigging war he would still be alive. Sometimes it don't pay to play GOPe.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:17 AM (9Om/r)


Lots of people stay in relationships that to an outsider look like they're unhealthy. And maybe they are.

But that's still the choice of the person who stays. For whatever reason, they tolerate what they do, and if it costs them their lives, then I guess we know they valued whatever it was they were getting from the relationship more than they did their own life.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2019 11:21 AM (cY3LT)

414 Santa Claus?

*points to #47*

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2019 11:23 AM (yEzh6)

415 The Gorilla of Wisdom is here

Posted by: Islam's Faith Tradition at September 09, 2019 11:23 AM (cqNba)

416 You guys are quacks.
Posted by: Lucy at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (Zv1X1)

That is libelous! I'll have you know, I'm a shyster!--Lawyer #9475231.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 11:24 AM (VJZgq)

417 Well, in all honesty, the space shuttle looked like it was engineered by Wile E. Coyote.

The Space Shuttle was the zenith of '70's engineering when it was launched in the '80's. That's not a knock against it.

All the experienced engineers in Congress wouldn't fund a vehicle that was safe. What they did fund was a vehicle that was expendable in the first two minutes of launch. Murphy was on that Congressional Committee, IIRC.

Then SCOAMF retired them for no reason when they still had over half of their expected airframe service lives left and forced us to fund the Russians to send our astronauts into LEO. #WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 11:24 AM (HaL55)

418 My experience in working with lots of men who have been hurt by women is that they hold onto the hurt, for a variety of reasons, and it never does them a lick of good."

Since a big theme of this thread has been books of the Old Testament, it seems right to point out that the Book of Hosea is all about an OT Prophet who marries a whore (literally), and who tries to make it work. At least we can say it's not a new problem.

I have found that both men and women tend to stick with bad relationships for hidden reasons that only they know - if they even recognize them in themselves.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:24 AM (Kpl3J)

419 >>> This, and Samson. I dont like Samson.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 09, 2019

Samson is one of my fave stories, but I like the idea you cannot outrun the plans god has for you. Better to get on board his plan than be dragged there the hard way by poor life choices. Samson was prophecied to save his people. He does, but it costs him his life after major betrayal and mutilation.

Also I love stories of terribly broken people who at the end redeem themselves.

Posted by: LizLem at September 09, 2019 11:24 AM (ByJd4)

420 411
I think I saw there was an asteroid out by Saturn that was supposedly worth 96 quadrillion dollars. The way the universe works,


The way economics works, supply and demand would destroy the value if you got it back to earth ... there aren't any quadrillion dollars ... although the democrats would like a chance to get the unfunded liabilities up to that mark.

Posted by: Off the reservation at September 09, 2019 11:26 AM (vWMNq)

421 >>Isn't that their job? And how does CNN know this? Seems to me that would burn a lot of people.

It's potentially a lot more than that. The reporting from the left all along is that a high level source close to Putin was the one telling the Brennan CIA that Russia in general and Putin in particular where responsible for meddling with our election.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 11:26 AM (ZLI7S)

422 332
You guys are quacks.

Posted by: Lucy at September 09, 2019 11:01 AM (Zv1X1)


Nurse! Your cat is posting again.

Posted by: creeper at September 09, 2019 11:27 AM (IBQUk)

423 And then what? You get cleaned out anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 11:16 AM (NWiLs)

I'd get an earlier start on the rest of my life.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 11:27 AM (YB89a)

424 Why the fucking hell would ANYONE want more than one wife?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Zv1X1)

Sort of the best laid plans kinda thing. The Semitic and other peoples forbade or discouraged sex with females during their periods. So the guys thought they could get around that problem with another piece. Then the women go and sync up their periods. Plus, the guys thought that women would never be able to get along in the same house so they wouldn't gang up on him. That only lead to separate residences for the women, twice as much expense for the men, twice as long till they could retire and drink beer all day. Women. Can't live with them, can't live with them.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 09, 2019 11:28 AM (VJZgq)

425 Here's what we don't want to admit - Solar System exploration is going to be done by AI, not by humans. Sending humans to all these areas is too expensive and problematic, adds incredible complexity. But there's no funding for AI missions yet, because they don't grab anyone's imagination. So, nothing happens.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 11:28 AM (Kpl3J)

426 No husband of mine (three) ever turned me down. I repaid the favor.

Posted by: creeper at September 09, 2019 11:29 AM (IBQUk)

427 I think I saw there was an asteroid out by Saturn that was supposedly worth 96 quadrillion dollars. The way the universe works, the costs of getting it, processing it etc will be just about break even. But 1% of 96 quadrillion is a lot of money. That 1% will come out of the labor costs - cause that's how we roll!!

Posted by: Humans expendable resources at September 09, 2019 11:17 AM (KpOSn)

I don't see how that could be possible, it dramatically exceeds the asset value of the world. Any influx of that magnitude would crash prices
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Yes that is exactly right if you could bring it back all at once. Huge market shift. You are talking about something that is fairly huge like 5% size of our moon. You will have to get it here and will probably doing that bits at a time. Maybe mass driver parts back here. Then orbital processing?

Now, the raw materials market itself will change drastically before hand since we will have to create a way to get there and a way to bring back, process the materials mined . . . the economics are pretty interesting. Real question of whether or not we've already hit a resource bottle neck that would prevent us from effectively utilizing space for more resources. Of course there's probably a technical solution we'll get eventually that'll give us anti grav . . . which solves a lot of money problems, but not necessarily time problems.

Posted by: Humans expendable resources at September 09, 2019 11:30 AM (HkQpu)

428 Lots of people stay in relationships that to an outsider look like they're unhealthy. And maybe they are.



But that's still the choice of the person who stays. For whatever
reason, they tolerate what they do, and if it costs them their lives,
then I guess we know they valued whatever it was they were getting from
the relationship more than they did their own life.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2019 11:21 AM (cY3LT)


In my friend's case the story is way more complicated than that. It was a 10 year process of manipulation that ended in divorce and him ending up being homeless talking to trees out in the woods. He kept trying to play by the rules, and she kept manipulating them. Ferengi rules of acquisition #109- Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.

A few years before the divorce, and after some time of separation he found a beautiful woman, basically his perfect match. The ex would not let him see the kids and it slowly took a toll on him. The ex manipulated him into thinking if he dumps the new girl and they get back together things would be good. She had NO intentions of getting back, she just wanted to new girl gone. He leaves the chick, she gets crushed, the wife says fuck you anyway, and then came the slow decent into insanity.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 11:33 AM (9Om/r)

429 It's potentially a lot more than that. The reporting from the left all along is that a high level source close to Putin was the one telling the Brennan CIA that Russia in general and Putin in particular where responsible for meddling with our election.
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Ooooh now it all makes sense. This is the deep state's last hail mary pass to make everyone believe that Trump is my STOOOOGE. Heh, Trump you are my PUPPET!!!!!

Posted by: Vladimir Dis'putin at September 09, 2019 11:33 AM (HkQpu)

430 And from henceforth you'll be known as Stu!"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2019 10:13 AM (mvenn)


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Hey, watch it pal!

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