Hold Your Breath And Stamp Your Feet And Pass Laws All You Want: The Price-Demand Curve Will Never Change

I know...I know...NO MATH! But this is really just a pretty picture!

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Unionizing Uber

Uber lost $5.2 billion in the second quarter of 2019. New York City already imposed a minimum wage of $27.86 for Uber and Lyft. Taking an Uber in New York is now more expensive than calling for a car service. And customers voted with their wallets by looking for other options for going from A to B.

Uber trips dropped by well over a million in one month.

That million rides represented fewer passengers using Uber, fewer drivers finding a niche in the market, and less viability for the ridesharing market and the entire gig economy.

But a bunch of ignorant, elitist assholes who don't even take Uber and Lyft because they have cars and drivers paid for by the city of New York will feel oh-so-virtuous, because they have protected the common man, the ignorant laborer who doesn't know any better. You know, by destroying an easy entry-level job he could do in his spare time.

But the reality is worse. Much, much worse. It's just a crooked dodge, and any New Yorker who pays attention to the machinations of the taxi and limousine commissions scams will know what's what.

A gig economy is based around flexibility and convenience. That's a problem for municipalities which make money by taxing established industries. New York City is destroying ridesharing because it makes a fortune from auctioning off taxi medallions. Ridesharing ruined that business, so it's ruining ridesharing.
The taxi medallion business was a huge cash cow for the connected elites, and when Uber and Lyft arrived, the value of a taxi medallion crashed. And they would have none of that! So they set their sights on ridesharing companies, and lo and behold!

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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1 1st!

Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 08, 2019 02:01 PM (9A/SK)

2 Scum.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2019 02:02 PM (NWiLs)

3
The taxi medallion business was a huge cash cow for the connected elites, and when Uber and Lyft arrived, the value of a taxi medallion crashed. And they would have none of that! So they set their sights on ridesharing companies, and lo and behold!

Don't like the status quo? Start your own!

Yeah.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:02 PM (7rVsF)

4
Dildo, your assignment for next week is to find
artwork related to the Latin phrase in flagrante delicto.



Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:03 PM (TbtIc)

5  Scum.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2019 02:02 PM (NWiLs)

Who? Me?
j/k

Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 08, 2019 02:04 PM (9A/SK)

6 10 yearscago a cabbie in Perth AUSTRALIA told me his taxi medallion cost $250,000. How much does it cost in NYC?

Posted by: tbodie at September 08, 2019 02:04 PM (0Euvx)

7
The crash in medallion prices didn't hurt the cabbies, it hurt medallion brokers to whom the cabbies were in debt.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:05 PM (7rVsF)

8 I feel like that graph is some kind of joke and I'm not getting it. Increased demand means lower prices! Hee hee, wow so silly...um...is that it?

Posted by: musical mountaineer at September 08, 2019 02:06 PM (U4Zl1)

9 read the content...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 08, 2019 02:06 PM (438dO)

10
But both Uber and Lyft tried really hard to play the leftist-fascist game of becoming tools of the left's "social justice" mob by adopting all of the sjw bullshit.

So, in conclusion, fuck 'em.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:06 PM (TbtIc)

11 10 yearscago a cabbie in Perth AUSTRALIA told me his taxi medallion cost $250,000. How much does it cost in NYC?
Posted by: tbodie
.......

Aussie dollars?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 08, 2019 02:07 PM (438dO)

12
Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2019 02:02 PM (NWiLs)

Who? Me?
j/k
Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 08, 2019 02:04 PM (9A/SK)

Well, this is a hive of scum and villainy, so you must be villainy then?

Posted by: Obi Wan Kadidi wa Didi, Disco Dancing Knight at September 08, 2019 02:07 PM (NgKpN)

13 Presdent obama could fix this problem in 10 minutes. Trump screwed this up and now blames it on the Mayor of NYC. TRUMP = LOSER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Obamaboro, VT and proud of it !!!! at September 08, 2019 02:07 PM (qM84C)

14 All of the Left's 'visions' ignore human nature.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:08 PM (cg4r6)

15 It's hard for me to feel sorry for New Yorkers. They voted for this shit and all they have to do is vote for someone else to get out of it.

But they won't.

De Blasio could be Mayor for life if they didn't have term limits.

Posted by: Blago at September 08, 2019 02:08 PM (sjTfF)

16 12
Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2019 02:02 PM (NWiLs)

Who? Me?
j/k
Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 08, 2019 02:04 PM (9A/SK)

Well, this is a hive of scum and villainy, so you must be villainy then?
Posted by: Obi Wan Kadidi wa Didi, Disco Dancing Knight at September 08, 2019 02:07 PM (NgKpN)

If I had to choose I'd take villainy.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2019 02:08 PM (NWiLs)

17 I feel like that graph is some kind of joke and I'm not getting it. Increased demand means lower prices! Hee hee, wow so silly...um...is that it?
Posted by: musical mountaineer at September 08, 2019 02:06 PM (U4Zl1)

Look at the y-axis as the driving variable.

Posted by: tbodie at September 08, 2019 02:09 PM (0Euvx)

18 Uber and Lyft offered less opportunity for graft.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 08, 2019 02:09 PM (cfSRQ)

19 is there anything Dems can't ruin?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 08, 2019 02:09 PM (+72t1)

20 Is the $27.86 minimum wage per trip or per hour, and if the latter, how would you calculate that? The time en route?
Regardless, this is rent seeking corruption at its worst, and the residents of NYC who voted for deBlasio and his ilk can just suck it.
Alas, my daughter now lives in NYC for a year, and will also have to pay the now-bloated price.

Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:09 PM (T6t7i)

21 Aussie dollars?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 08, 2019 02:07 PM (438dO)

Yes.

Posted by: tbodie at September 08, 2019 02:10 PM (0Euvx)

22 19 is there anything Dems can't ruin?
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 08, 2019 02:09 PM (+72t1)

No.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2019 02:10 PM (NWiLs)

23 Looks like a graph of my mental faculties.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2019 02:10 PM (MVjcR)

24 Does that $27.86 minimum wage in NYC apply only to ride share companies? And if so, how can that be legal?

Posted by: girldog at September 08, 2019 02:10 PM (SJiiM)

25
10 yearscago a cabbie in Perth AUSTRALIA told me his taxi medallion cost $250,000. How much does it cost in NYC?

Posted by: tbodie


This reminds me of someone 20 years ago telling me you'd need at least $500K in net worth (cash and assets) to start a Dunkin Donuts store.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:10 PM (TbtIc)

26
The analyst for the Astros TV broadcast fell ill during the game last night, so Julia Morales, the baseline babe, took over for him. She doesn't take herself seriously like another JM I could mention, so she was pretty good.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:11 PM (7rVsF)

27

In other words, Dunkin Donuts would not even consider you for a franchise store unless you were
worth at least $500K, net.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:11 PM (TbtIc)

28 22
19 is there anything Dems can't ruin?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 08, 2019 02:09 PM (+72t1)



No.

Posted by: Insomniac


Detroit. It's already in a maximum entropy state.

Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:12 PM (T6t7i)

29 Uber lost $5.2 billion in the second quarter of 2019.

How? What are their costs?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 08, 2019 02:12 PM (oVJmc)

30
How? What are their costs?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles


HR. MBA consultants.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:13 PM (7rVsF)

31 OT:

Apple is COMING OUT WITH THEIR NEW PRODUCT line on Tuesday! OMG!!!

Yeah, I know, I know - a real snoozer, right?

Tim Cook got a few years out of following the roadmap of new products that Jobs wrote out before he died, but now, he ain't got nothing.

The big excitement will be how many transgender presenters Apple trots out on Tuesday - they used a transgender presenter for a developers conference a few months ago, so I'm sure that Cook won't pass up the opportunity to do so again for a much bigger audience.

Remember, when you're out of ideas, double down on the Social Justice Warfare!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:14 PM (I2/tG)

32 BTW - A Medallion in NYC allows the holder to run hundreds of taxi cabs, not just one.

I just read UBER drove the price of a medallion down from $1.3 Million in 2013 to less than $200,000 by 2018!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 08, 2019 02:14 PM (438dO)

33 How much does it cost in NYC?

I believe that medallions in NYC went over a million bucks at one point.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:15 PM (I2/tG)

34
Apple is COMING OUT WITH THEIR NEW PRODUCT line on Tuesday! OMG!!!

"Must. Stand. In. Line. Now." - Apple cultist who doesn't even know what he's buying.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:16 PM (7rVsF)

35
I said 5 years you'd have to be STUPID to buy
a new iphone every year.



Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:16 PM (TbtIc)

36

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate said he would allow gig workers to unionize to "put the interest of workers first."

"There are people in the gig economy who go through more jobs in a week than my parents went through in their lifetime," Buttigieg said during the debate when answering a question about trade. "That's why I propose that we allow gig workers to unionize, because a gig is a job and a worker is a worker."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2019 02:16 PM (aKsyK)

37 I have taken exactly TWO Uber rides in two cities. So my experience is hardly definitive. My first ride was in a large city. An Uber to the airport was almost exactly the came cost as a local taxi to the airport.

My 2nd ride was a local hop to pick up a car from the repair shop. It cost me about $10 including the tip. I could have walked the distance in an hour. I could have ridden my bike in 15 minutes, but I couldn't fit my bike in my small sedan ruling out that option.

Uber will be a small part of my transportation plans. If it is regulated out of business I won't be surprised. I hear nightmare stories about drivers actually earning negative income and effectively paying Uber to drive for them.

This has never made sense to me.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at September 08, 2019 02:16 PM (+Kpte)

38 How much does it cost in NYC?"

Up to 1.5 mil...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 08, 2019 02:17 PM (6qErC)

39 Uber lost $5.2 billion in the second quarter of 2019.

How? What are their costs?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
..........

That's what I always wonder when seeing these big losses.

It is a freaking ride matching service done mostly bu computers and internet. How the f*ck can you lose $5.2 Billion in one year??? Unless you are paying your drivers more than the fare.. but I highly doubt that!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 08, 2019 02:17 PM (438dO)

40 Look at the y-axis as the driving variable.
Posted by: tbodie
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ISWYDT

Posted by: Uber, Lyft at September 08, 2019 02:17 PM (cg4r6)

41 Holy crap! In one quarter???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 08, 2019 02:18 PM (438dO)

42 And I'm sick of the media telling us whom we should feel sorry for and who doesn't matter at all.

We saw lots of news reports about the plight of cab drivers, but what about the old lady or disabled person living on a scant income who now can't afford a ride to the doctor or grocery store?

Those people aren't putting money in the pockets of Democrat politicians, so they don't matter.

Posted by: girldog at September 08, 2019 02:18 PM (SJiiM)

43 Apple is COMING OUT WITH THEIR NEW PRODUCT line on Tuesday! OMG!!!

"Must. Stand. In. Line. Now." - Apple cultist who doesn't even know what he's buying.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:16 PM (7rVsF)

We know what Rush will be talking about all next week.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at September 08, 2019 02:18 PM (yA7hB)

44 I just read UBER drove the price of a medallion down from $1.3 Million in 2013 to less than $200,000 by 2018!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 08, 2019 02:14 PM (438dO)

So elites in the know bought them up before they destroyed Uber? Nice.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:18 PM (rxS4W)

45
Right, and thanks to Government, cabbies have to GOUGE you every time you need a ride, ten-times more gouging if you want a ride from any big airport.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:18 PM (TbtIc)

46 Remember, when you're out of ideas, double down on the Social Justice Warfare!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:14 PM (I2/tG)

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Also, credit financing.

It's interesting how many retailers eventually get tired of making things and decide that what they should really do is "leverage their brand" into credit services.

I was bombarded with ads yesterday about Apple's new credit card, which is going to be like every other kind, only with rounded edges and extra smugness.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 08, 2019 02:19 PM (cfSRQ)

47 A gig economy is based around flexibility and convenience. That's a problem for municipalities which make money by taxing established industries. New York City is destroying ridesharing because it makes a fortune from auctioning off taxi medallions.

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Some smart guy said that when you regulate buying and selling the first thing to be bought and sold will be the regulators.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 08, 2019 02:19 PM (+y/Ru)

48 "Must. Stand. In. Line. Now." - Apple cultist who doesn't even know what he's buying.

Cook has been good at monetizing Jobs' ideas, but Apple hasn't had a single successful truly new product since Jobs died in 2011.

Sort of a metaphor for Silicon Valley, generally - what was once the most innovative place on the planet has turned into a set of stodgy monopolies run by social justice warriors.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:19 PM (I2/tG)

49 I said 5 years you'd have to be STUPID to buy
a new iphone every year.

Posted by: Soothsayer

.................

Because providers add this into the monthly bill, for most users, they think it is "free".

Idiots.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 08, 2019 02:20 PM (438dO)

50 I was bombarded with ads yesterday about Apple's new credit card, which is going to be like every other kind, only with rounded edges and extra smugness.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 08, 2019 02:19 PM (cfSRQ)

"Value add"!

*cause I missed the corporate lingo thread*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:20 PM (rxS4W)

51 36




South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and 2020 Democratic presidential
candidate said he would allow gig workers to unionize to "put the
interest of workers first."



What does that even mean? Is he suggesting that gig workers require his permission to unionize? What an insufferably arrogant ass.

Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:20 PM (T6t7i)

52 If 9/11 happened in NY today, I'm not so sure the same support would be given as in 2001. They've chosen their path. They aren't part of the America most of us feel we live in, not by a long shot. The Today show'ing of America attempts at forcing us to believe we all hold Manhattan values has failed. No, we don't want to be celebrities, we want to decide our own fate.

Posted by: Quilp at September 08, 2019 02:20 PM (Bf3hj)

53
Anyone remember the Bug UPS strike of the late 90's?

Was it the late 90's? I don't remember.

Anyway, Thank Christ for non-union FedEx.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:20 PM (TbtIc)

54 From the sidebar:

Wow this Brexit article is EVERYTHING!
________

I could swear I posted a link to that over a week ago.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 08, 2019 02:21 PM (VaN/j)

55 We know what Rush will be talking about all next week.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Actually Irish at September 08, 2019 02:18 PM (yA7hB)

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No kidding.

I liked him better when he'd waste time name-dropping. Hearing him gush about a freaking gadget is embarrassing.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 08, 2019 02:21 PM (cfSRQ)

56 "That's why I propose that we allow gig workers to unionize, because a gig is a job and a worker is a worker."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
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What is a 'gig worker'? Given that the statement was by Butterjig, I ask hesitantly.

Posted by: Uber, Lyft at September 08, 2019 02:21 PM (cg4r6)

57 >>I was bombarded with ads yesterday about Apple's new credit card, which is going to be like every other kind, only with rounded edges and extra smugness.

. . . and it will occasionally be restricted from use in states that pass wrongthink gendered bathroom policies and fast food chicken restaurants whose owners donate their own money to wrongthink organizations.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2019 02:21 PM (bDqIh)

58 WarEagle, in most cities, Uber/lyft is an insane bargain.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:22 PM (PUmDY)

59 What happens to all of those illegal aliens and their families of 8 when they shut this down? Must everyone be forced to pick lettuce?

Posted by: Fritz at September 08, 2019 02:22 PM (kLDv+)

60 But a bunch of ignorant, elitist assholes who don't even take Uber and Lyft
________

I'm not so sure about "ignorant". I think at least some of them know exactly what they're doing.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 08, 2019 02:22 PM (VaN/j)

61 The one amazing thing about Uber ... who the hell knew so many people wanted to be taxi drivers? It's kind of funny.

The weirdest thing about Uber is how much money it loses every quarter. The company has almost no expenses (so far as its actual taxi business goes). They seem to be spending money on everything but being a taxi service. And people are happy to fund them in all this shit. That's odd.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 08, 2019 02:22 PM (RyY7c)

62 What is a 'gig worker'? Given that the statement was by Butterjig, I ask hesitantly.

Posted by: Uber, Lyft at September 08, 2019 02:21 PM (cg4r6)

They stab frogs.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:22 PM (rxS4W)

63

Me fuck you long time!

Posted by: Your Elite Masters at September 08, 2019 02:22 PM (uErzf)

64 So elites in the know bought them up before they destroyed Uber? Nice.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob


Yup. I read an article about a year ago describing how many of the people who had gone deeply into debt to get a medallion, or a piece of one, were killing themselves because their medallion was worth so little now. I'm sure that was the motivation to get rid of Uber: to protect the little guys.

Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:23 PM (T6t7i)

65 Uber unions means union dues, which breathes life into diminishing US labor unions, which they then use to elect more Democrats.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2019 02:23 PM (bDqIh)

66 OT: but Steve Croft has announced his retirement...

Who will eat the pudding now?!!!!!

Posted by: Ghost of Bob Crane at September 08, 2019 02:23 PM (jdWK0)

67 Sort of a metaphor for Silicon Valley, generally - what was once the most innovative place on the planet has turned into a set of stodgy monopolies run by social justice warriors.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Hey! You know we're standing right here listening, don't you?

Posted by: High Tech at September 08, 2019 02:23 PM (cg4r6)

68 Former Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel says Democrats' plan to pass #MedicareForAll, eliminate 150 million Americans' private health care, and give free health care to illegal immigrants is "untenable" and "reckless"

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Just goes to show you, a blind, stopped unmitigated acorn asshole is right twice a day.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 02:24 PM (+y/Ru)

69 The weirdest thing about Uber is how much money it loses every quarter.

They all want to be part of the next Amazon, which lost money for years and years because Bezos was building out the infrastructure. Now they have a license to print money.

Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:24 PM (T6t7i)

70 'America was great when taxes were high and straws were paper
Make America Great Again

Posted by: Kurt at September 08, 2019 02:24 PM (p+2P+)

71
They stab frogs.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob
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Flounders too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:25 PM (cg4r6)

72
Iz this teh Anti-NFL thrad?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:25 PM (TbtIc)

73 >>Former Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel says Democrats' plan to pass #MedicareForAll . . .


What's Zeke Emanuel think of this?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2019 02:25 PM (bDqIh)

74 Hold Your Breath And Stamp Your Feet And Pass Laws All You Want: The Price-Demand Curve Will Never Change

Exthept in the labor market....

Posted by: Your Betters in the GOPe at September 08, 2019 02:27 PM (DrqHq)

75
What's Zeke Emanuel think of this?

Posted by: Lizzy


Deplorables should die so that the Nomenklatura can have more.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:27 PM (7rVsF)

76 "Must. Stand. In. Line. Now." - Apple cultist who doesn't even know what he's buying.

I have a four year old Mac portable. The computer's battery is down to 60% of original capacity, as batteries will, so I went to the local Mac story to buy a new battery, so I could switch out the old one, and put in a new one.

I was informed that Apple now solders the battery to the case, and it now costs hundreds of dollars to replace the battery.

I've been buying Macs since 1984, but I am seriously considering dumpling Apple when my current computer dies.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:27 PM (I2/tG)

77 Flounders too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:25 PM (cg4r6)

I miss spear fishing. Hey, is there anywhere where it's legal to shoot fish, like with a gun?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:28 PM (rxS4W)

78 51 36




South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and 2020 Democratic presidential
candidate said he would allow gig workers to unionize to "put the
interest of workers first."


What does that even mean? Is he suggesting that gig workers require his permission to unionize? What an insufferably arrogant ass.
Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:20 PM (T6t7i)

They can always form a union, right? Or does NYC have some unconstitutional laws preventing freedom of association now?

Posted by: Roy at September 08, 2019 02:28 PM (ABjxW)

79 What's Zeke Emanuel think of this?
Posted by: Lizzy
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That's 'Doctor Emanuel' to you, prole.

Posted by: Dr. Zeke Emanuel at September 08, 2019 02:28 PM (cg4r6)

80 49 I said 5 years you'd have to be STUPID to buy
a new iphone every year.

Posted by: Soothsayer
.................

Because providers add this into the monthly bill, for most users, they think it is "free".

Idiots.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

----

My daughter, who I allow on my cell phone plan, has trouble paying me the $45 every month I charge her.

She buys a new phone every year.

For the life of her, she can't figure out why she is always broke.

Wish I was kidding.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 08, 2019 02:28 PM (Y4EXg)

81 I've been buying Macs since 1984, but I am seriously considering dumpling Apple when my current computer dies.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:27 PM (I2/tG)

You mean Apple dumpling right?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:28 PM (rxS4W)

82
I was informed that Apple now solders the battery to the case, and it now costs hundreds of dollars to replace the battery.

There's probably a vid on youtube to DIY.


I've been buying Macs since 1984, but I am seriously considering dumpling Apple when my current computer dies.


Heh.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:29 PM (TbtIc)

83 Groups take Uber/lyft from la to Vegas and save a lot.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:30 PM (PUmDY)

84 I've heard the movie "Escape from New York" called a dystopian action film, but I call it a good start. Wall off that shithole.

Posted by: Roy at September 08, 2019 02:30 PM (ABjxW)

85 "That's why I propose that we allow gig workers to unionize, because a gig is a job and a worker is a worker."


What's stopping them now?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 08, 2019 02:30 PM (yQpMk)

86 You mean Apple dumpling right?

LOL. So I can't sprel.

No more Apple dumplings for me!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:30 PM (I2/tG)

87 South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate said he would allow gig workers to unionize to "put the interest of workers first."

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The interest of ThinkProgress workers was put first.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 02:30 PM (+y/Ru)

88

Under Com... ER... Woke Socialism, the price demand curve goes straight up and is vegan carbon neutral too!

*pssstt... What's a price demand curve?*

Posted by: Democratic Socialist at September 08, 2019 02:31 PM (uErzf)

89 LOL. So I can't sprel.

No more Apple dumplings for me!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:30 PM (I2/tG)

Lol. You wouldn't have respected us if someone didn't gig you on that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:31 PM (rxS4W)

90 I've been buying Macs since 1984, but I am seriously considering dumpling Apple when my current computer dies.
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You're going to fritter away the chance to buy a new one?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:31 PM (cg4r6)

91 Would that stupidity were physically painful.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 08, 2019 02:31 PM (yQpMk)

92 Are the Democrats keeping Kamalamadingdong and Buttgigeconomy around for comic relief, or are they actually serious?

Posted by: Roy at September 08, 2019 02:31 PM (ABjxW)

93 Why hasn't the GOP been talking about this conveyor belt of money from customers, or taxpayers, going to unions and their client Democrats? Liberals look gobsmacked when I tell them.

*sigh*

Posted by: pj at September 08, 2019 02:32 PM (qlTN9)

94 I saw the Apple Dumpling Gang in a theater.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:32 PM (PUmDY)

95
You're going to fritter away the chance to buy a new one?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


His resistance will crumble.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:33 PM (7rVsF)

96 Didn't President Nixon try wage and price controls while he was busy bombing Hanoi into rubble?

Good times, good times.

Why anyone wants to do business in New Yawk City is beyond me......but greed has to have a home I guess.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 08, 2019 02:33 PM (Z+IKu)

97 Are the Democrats keeping Kamalamadingdong and Buttgigeconomy around for comic relief, or are they actually serious?
Posted by: Roy
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They *do* make Joe look good, by comparison.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:33 PM (cg4r6)

98 I've been buying Macs since 1984, but I am seriously considering dumpling Apple when my current computer dies.
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You're going to fritter away the chance to buy a new one?

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An Apple turnover?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 02:33 PM (+y/Ru)

99 Back in Iowa hunters took carp with bow and arrow.

Posted by: creeper at September 08, 2019 02:33 PM (IBQUk)

100 We all think that this shoulds include free hellth care for animals too in otter to be fare !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Obamaboro, VT and proud of it !!!! at September 08, 2019 02:33 PM (qM84C)

101 Under Com... ER... Woke Socialism, the price demand curve goes straight up and is vegan carbon neutral too!

*pssstt... What's a price demand curve?*
Posted by: Democratic Socialist at September 08, 2019 02:31 PM (uErzf)

ITS WHEN THE RENTS TOO DAMN HIGH!

Posted by: Old School Democrat Presidential Candidate at September 08, 2019 02:34 PM (NgKpN)

102 Last month was Aug big vacation month
Uber rides dropped 6%
So did Lyft and via

Posted by: Kurt at September 08, 2019 02:34 PM (OwBCc)

103 You're going to fritter away the chance to buy a new one?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

His resistance will crumble.
Posted by: Hadrian
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He may be able to cobble something together.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:34 PM (cg4r6)

104 You're going to fritter away the chance to buy a new one?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:31 PM (cg4r6)

They just want to tart anew.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:35 PM (rxS4W)

105
What's a FRITTER?

And what's a Fricassee?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:35 PM (TbtIc)

106 >>>Are the Democrats keeping Kamalamadingdong and Buttgigeconomy around for comic relief, or are they actually serious?<<<

They're offering a less outrageous alternative to Bernie Sanders, - the man who wants to obliterate all brown people.

Posted by: Fritz at September 08, 2019 02:35 PM (kLDv+)

107 I saw The Apple Dumpling Gang at the drive in.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 08, 2019 02:35 PM (myjNJ)

108
They just want to tart anew.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob


He can cobbler up something.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:36 PM (7rVsF)

109 I saw The Apple Dumpling Gang at the drive in.
Posted by: madamemayhem
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Go on...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:36 PM (cg4r6)

110
remember DON KNOTTS in How To Frame A Figg?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:36 PM (TbtIc)

111 103 You're going to fritter away the chance to buy a new one?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

His resistance will crumble.
Posted by: Hadrian
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He may be able to cobble something together.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:34 PM (cg4r6)

Lots of turnover in tech.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2019 02:36 PM (NWiLs)

112 Falcons suck.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:36 PM (PUmDY)

113 Dildo, your assignment for next week is to find
artwork related to the Latin phrase in flagrante delicto.



Featuring Mrs. Chipwich

Posted by: JT at September 08, 2019 02:36 PM (arJlL)

114 What's a FRITTER?

Posted by: Soothsayer

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A fritter, generally, is a fried pastry.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 08, 2019 02:37 PM (Y4EXg)

115

I saw the Apple Pumping Gangbamg at that old movie theater downtown

Posted by: Democratic Socialist at September 08, 2019 02:37 PM (uErzf)

116 99 Back in Iowa hunters took carp with bow and arrow.

Posted by: creeper at September 08, 2019 02:33 PM (IBQUk)

What to you do with carp?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:37 PM (rxS4W)

117
Falcons suck.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie



Not as bad as the Dolphins!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:37 PM (TbtIc)

118 You're going to fritter away the chance to buy a new one?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

His resistance will crumble.
Posted by: Hadrian
---

He may be able to cobble something together.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:34 PM (cg4r6)

Lots of turnover in tech.
Posted by: Insomniac
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Everyone wants their slice of the pie.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2019 02:37 PM (cg4r6)

119 What Uber and Lyft failed to take into account was that they were tangling with Louie DePalma!

Posted by: RKae at September 08, 2019 02:37 PM (LTccB)

120 Are the Democrats keeping Kamalamadingdong and Buttgigeconomy around for comic relief, or are they actually serious?

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Kama Llama caught in another big fat lie. Kamala Harris claimed she 'sued Exxon Mobil' as California AG. She didn't.

https://bit.ly/2lBn9gJ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 02:37 PM (+y/Ru)

121 Harris sounds desperate.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 08, 2019 02:38 PM (myjNJ)

122 Strudeling about injustice won't make it go away.

Posted by: Fritz at September 08, 2019 02:38 PM (kLDv+)

123
I looked up artwork related to in flagrante delicto on teh googles and a funny pic of two dogs came up!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:38 PM (TbtIc)

124 Grandparents took me, went to Farrells afterwards, prob got an Orange Julius on way out. Good times.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:38 PM (PUmDY)

125 What to you do with carp?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

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Clean them thoroughly, bread lightly, season heavily with salt and pepper - then place on a cedar plank and bake at 350 for about 25 minutes.

After done, scrap off the fish and all that stuff and eat the board.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 08, 2019 02:39 PM (Y4EXg)

126
Our favorite Cajun restaurant had a great apple crumble with ice cream. They found out we loved it, so they took it off the menu permanently.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:39 PM (7rVsF)

127 I think it's been pointed out that there's a problem with that graph. The real problem is that there are 3 interacting variables; price, demand, and supply. You can't say much about the relationship between any two of the variables without respect to the third.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2019 02:40 PM (V2Yro)

128 126
Our favorite Cajun restaurant had a great apple crumble with ice cream. They found out we loved it, so they took it off the menu permanently.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:39 PM (7rVsF)

Funny how that works.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2019 02:40 PM (NWiLs)

129
They found out we loved it, so they took it off the menu permanently.


You too?
Supermarkets love to pull this shit with me.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:40 PM (TbtIc)

130 And now I want apple crisp.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 08, 2019 02:41 PM (myjNJ)

131 I should have said sTART anew.

I need to practice my puns. Are there rules in the 'pun wars' btw?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:42 PM (rxS4W)

132 I saw the Apple Dumpling Gang in a theater.

They were watching The Wild Bunch

Posted by: JT at September 08, 2019 02:42 PM (arJlL)

133 >>Uber lost $5.2 billion in the second quarter of 2019.


The Underwear Gnomes are impressed.

Posted by: garrett at September 08, 2019 02:42 PM (sYpkB)

134 Can somebody explain how much the cab driver himself pays for that medallion? Is the cost spread over the cab company?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2019 02:42 PM (kQs4Y)

135 29 Uber lost $5.2 billion in the second quarter of 2019.

How? What are their costs?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 08, 2019 02:12 PM (oVJmc)
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I had an Uber driver tell me last month that they have shifted the model to paying drivers for "seat minutes" so he gets paid for being a driver whether there are fares or not. Which sounded shocking to me, because thats a JOB. If true, it could explain the losses, partly.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at September 08, 2019 02:42 PM (dHE7W)

136 >>What to you do with carp?


Eagle Bait.

Posted by: garrett at September 08, 2019 02:43 PM (sYpkB)

137 I just realized that 'Stripes' and 'Full Metal Jacket' are the same movie.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 08, 2019 02:43 PM (oVJmc)

138 I just realized that 'Stripes' and 'Full Metal Jacket' are the same movie.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

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That's a fact Jack!!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 08, 2019 02:43 PM (Y4EXg)

139 one link says "The 139 medallions are part of a collection of the 13,587 licensed medallions that are required to operate a yellow taxi in New York City. In 2013, a medallion was worth as much as $1.3 million, however, competition from ride-hailing apps like Uber and Lyft has driven medallion prices down to as low as $160,000."

some said one medallion can run 100+ cabs? is that an annual fee? ... anyway, yeah ... build your own Google, or in NY, build your own mafia.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 08, 2019 02:43 PM (Cus5s)

140 Apple is out of ideas. Now it's all about monetizing and milking their cash cow.

Posted by: Regular joe at September 08, 2019 02:44 PM (6/uwW)

141 I saw The Apple Dumpling Gang at the drive in.

They were watching Debbie Does Dallas

Posted by: JT at September 08, 2019 02:44 PM (arJlL)

142
I just realized that 'Stripes' and 'Full Metal Jacket' are the same movie.


And, also Private Benjamin.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:44 PM (TbtIc)

143 The average cabbie does not own the medallion, he rents it from the owner.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at September 08, 2019 02:44 PM (w7KSn)

144 Tim Ryan: 'Biden Is Declining,' Lacks 'Clarity' When He Speaks

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His 'brain damage' and 'lack of moral fibre' has made him 'batshit crazy'.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 02:44 PM (+y/Ru)

145 Trumps lawyer Michael Cohen owned NYC medallions he bought with loans. They crashed in value and he made falsies to his banks on loans which his wife co-signed

That's how the Feds flipped him and got him to keep singing

Blame Uber

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 02:44 PM (jYyRI)

146

You too?
Supermarkets love to pull this shit with me.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile


Rules of marketing:
1) Find out what is used or enjoyed at Schloss Hadrian
2) Discontinue immediately
3) Pull remaining inventory from stores
4) Destroy remaining stock
5) Demolish production equipment
6) Delete recipes and blueprints
7) Fire everyone involved with item

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:44 PM (7rVsF)

147 I saw the Apple Pumping Gangbamg at that old movie theater downtown

They were selling drugs

Posted by: JT at September 08, 2019 02:45 PM (arJlL)

148 The MP's in Stripes where much prettier then the ones in Full Metal Jacket

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at September 08, 2019 02:45 PM (B06Zw)

149 134
Can somebody explain how much the cab driver himself pays for that medallion? Is the cost spread over the cab company?


The driver is just a peon. IIRC, the medallion is owned by a wealthier person or possibly a consortium.

Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:46 PM (T6t7i)

150 Apple is in the 'putting the screws to their customers' phase of their business model.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 08, 2019 02:46 PM (oVJmc)

151 125 this joke is as old as Moses' toe and twice as corny.

Posted by: Regular joe at September 08, 2019 02:46 PM (6/uwW)

152 Ah, okay, thanks.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2019 02:46 PM (kQs4Y)

153 Didja see the Trolling President's latest comment on Shapie-gate?

https://bit.ly/2m0EShH

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 02:46 PM (+y/Ru)

154 151 125 this joke is as old as Moses' toe and twice as corny.
Posted by: Regular joe

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You can't go wrong with the classics. LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at September 08, 2019 02:47 PM (Y4EXg)

155 After done, scrap off the fish and all that stuff and eat the board.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 08, 2019 02:39 PM (Y4EXg)

Lol. I'm laughing cause you took the time to do that joke, and i fucking read it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 08, 2019 02:47 PM (rxS4W)

156 garret, I think that replacements box has their full show on lp.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:47 PM (PUmDY)

157 Rules of marketing:

1) Find out what is used or enjoyed at Schloss Hadrian

2) Discontinue immediately

3) Pull remaining inventory from stores

4) Destroy remaining stock

5) Demolish production equipment

6) Delete recipes and blueprints

7) Fire everyone involved with item



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


You forgot step 8. "Bury alive all persons who implemented steps 1-7."

Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:47 PM (T6t7i)

158 I'm guessing Uber didn't "lose" that much, they just directed it away from stock holders to other people. but idk, easy money means a lot of misappropriation of funds ... money from helicopters ... lands on special people.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 08, 2019 02:48 PM (Cus5s)

159 135 29 Uber lost $5.2 billion in the second quarter of 2019.

How? What are their costs?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 08, 2019 02:12 PM (oVJmc)

I had to look that up since that number sounded so ridiculous - okay, now it makes more sense. As they grew and prepared for an IPO, Uber had given away a very large number of restricted stock options. They all vested at the time of the IPO, which took place in the 2nd quarter. $3.6 Billion of their "Loss" was associated solely with the vesting of past restricted stock options, triggered by the IPO. So that part had nothing at all to do with actual operations, it's just financial engineering.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2019 02:49 PM (V2Yro)

160 >>What to you do with carp?


Sweet. I will have to check and see if they are offering it as a stand alone or only as the deluxe set.

I have no use for discs of any kind, really. But I'd like the LPs.

Posted by: garrett at September 08, 2019 02:49 PM (sYpkB)

161 The connected elites that owned the taxi medallions when they were worth 1 million
Would that include friends of Trump ? Like his number one fixer and pay off guy ???

Posted by: Kurt at September 08, 2019 02:50 PM (OwBCc)

162 I saw the Apple Dumpling Gang in a theater.

They were watching The Wild Bunch

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Back in the day, my naive cousin and her husband went to see Midnight Cowboy because they thought it was a western.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 02:50 PM (+y/Ru)

163 Stripes was filmed partly in Louisville

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:51 PM (PUmDY)

164 This story covers a lot of ground and brings in a lot of different threads.

-Uber and Lyft (or at least the idea) also stands athwart the public transit idea as well. I like the idea of trains (but hate public transit) but the problem with them is that they do not do going from point A to point B. They take you (or goods) from somewhere near point A to somewhere near point B. You then have to make up the difference at the two ends of the trip.

-what is the current wage for an Uber driver outside of these big cities? Even the $27 an hour mentioned in the story seems kind of high. If this wage was arrived at due to demand and the two companies trying to lure drivers away from each other and made sense because they could actually sustain the cost (the demand was actually that high) then I would not have a problem with it, but that is not the impression I get.

- I always wonder if the Cash For Clunkers idea was not actually striking at the whole idea of private ownership of vehicles in general by striking at supply and therefore driving the cost of both the item itself, but also at the service industry supporting cars in general. (I have always wondered how maintenance shops were affected by getting rid of not only older cars that needed more service, but also were by and large easier to work on.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 02:51 PM (ycWCI)

165
re: the fake news' sharpiegate bullshit

President Trump will NOT be Plastic Turkeyed. Ever.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:51 PM (TbtIc)

166 Your basic supply demand graph is highly simplistic. And mostly meaningless

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 02:52 PM (jYyRI)

167 Rules of marketing:

1) Find out what is used or enjoyed at Schloss Hadrian

2) Discontinue immediately

3) Pull remaining inventory from stores

4) Destroy remaining stock

5) Demolish production equipment

6) Delete recipes and blueprints

7) Fire everyone involved with item

-
Ah. The Dick's Sporting Goods gambit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 02:52 PM (+y/Ru)

168 148
The MP's in Stripes where much prettier then the ones in Full Metal Jacket

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at September 08, 2019 02:45 PM (B06Zw)

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Stripes is the better film. Doesn't drag at the end.

Also, more plausible.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 08, 2019 02:54 PM (cfSRQ)

169 Last month was Aug big vacation month
Uber rides dropped 6%
So did Lyft and via



Success!

Posted by: Your Democratic Overlords at September 08, 2019 02:54 PM (yQpMk)

170
These "legal helpline" tv commercials make me want
to kill people.

They now have 5-minute commercials during a broadcast, so you're forced to watch a mini-informercial while you watch an old tv show or old movie.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 08, 2019 02:55 PM (TbtIc)

171 163
Stripes was filmed partly in Louisville

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:51 PM (PUmDY)

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My dad loved that film because he recognized the Army barracks. Stayed there in the 60s.

Well, also because it's funny as well.

"Are either of you homosexuals?"

"Do you mean like...flaming or..."

"It's just a question that we have to ask.

"No, we're not, but we are willing to learn."

"Yeah, do they send us someplace special?"

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 08, 2019 02:56 PM (cfSRQ)

172 Uber and Lyft have unusual and flawed business models. They pay a mega shitload for insurance which is a big driver in why they lose money. Real money as in cash out the door

Biggest long term problem is that they've been underpaying drivers when you include auto maintenance expense. After the driver goes to the shop and pays $1000 they quit. Driver turnover averages less than a year

They're scalable tech companies

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 02:56 PM (jYyRI)

173 Sean Young was in a lot of great movies.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 02:56 PM (PUmDY)

174 - I always wonder if the Cash For Clunkers idea
was not actually striking at the whole idea of private ownership of
vehicles in general by striking at supply and therefore driving the cost
of both the item itself, but also at the service industry supporting
cars in general. (I have always wondered how maintenance shops were
affected by getting rid of not only older cars that needed more service,
but also were by and large easier to work on.)



Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 02:51 PM

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Cash for clunkers intentionally destroyed the low end used car market. It was part and parcel to the whole scheme and only a fool would not have taken the bait and bought a brand new car with those very generous federal subsidies.


In the meantime the people on the bottom of the food chain who relied upon cheap used cars for transportation were priced out of the market. To this day I am convinced that was part of the plan to force them onto public transportation.


Even though there was no successful legal challenge to the law, I and others are convinced that if it had made it to SCOTUS it would have been ruled illegal.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 08, 2019 02:58 PM (JUOKG)

175 They're NOT scaleable tech companies is what I meant

And they don't have barriers to entry. What made their market Is GPS which any schmoo can use

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 02:58 PM (jYyRI)

176 I'm just crazy about Sean Young
And she's just crazy about meeee

Posted by: Regular joe at September 08, 2019 02:59 PM (6/uwW)

177 We can just make the minimum wage $50 and eliminate poverty! You're welcome.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 08, 2019 03:00 PM (EZebt)

178
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of leftist authoritarian-lovers.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2019 03:00 PM (13CQC)

179

Sean Young? That retard that paddles around in sewage and gets attacked by rabid rabbits?

Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 08, 2019 03:01 PM (qul7b)

180 Bezos has got to be smiling

Posted by: Doggfish at September 08, 2019 03:01 PM (9ujx9)

181 Stripes, Bladerunner, No Way Out is a great resume.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:02 PM (PUmDY)

182 The taxi medallion business was a huge cash cow for the connected elites

Don't forget dragging their heels ever so slightly until that sweet, sweet lobbying cash flowed in.

Posted by: t-bird at September 08, 2019 03:02 PM (OiC69)

183 I'm just crazy about Sean Young
And she's just crazy about meeee

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Way down below the ocean where she ought to be she may be

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 03:03 PM (+y/Ru)

184 Sean Young? That retard that paddles around in sewage and gets attacked by rabid rabbits?
Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 08, 2019 03:01 PM (qul7b)

I thought that was Jimmeh Carter.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2019 03:04 PM (V2Yro)

185 Rules of marketing:
1) Find out what is used or enjoyed at Schloss Hadrian
2) Discontinue immediately
3) Pull remaining inventory from stores
4) Destroy remaining stock
5) Demolish production equipment
6) Delete recipes and blueprints
7) Fire everyone involved with item
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

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Explains why I can't find any Space Food Sticks!

I think everyone involved in that "committed suicide."

Posted by: RKae at September 08, 2019 03:05 PM (LTccB)

186 Yes Uber had non cash stock vesting expense. That's why it lost $5 billion in a quarter

But it has a huge negative operating margin. They literally hope to make it up in volume.

And I still hold out hope for Kate Upton running away with me

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 03:06 PM (jYyRI)

187 Few years back an Uber driver kicked people out of his car, at a gas station in the middle of nowhere, after discovering they were Republicans.

Uber didn't fire the guy

So fuck Uber, i hope they go backrupt

Posted by: Greg Q at September 08, 2019 03:06 PM (BVCcq)

188 We can just make the minimum wage $50 and eliminate poverty! You're welcome.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

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My opponent San Franpsycho would have you trying to live on $50 and hour!

Vote for RKae and I'll make minimum wage a ba-jillion dollars an hour!


Posted by: RKae at September 08, 2019 03:07 PM (LTccB)

189 Space Food Sticks

I have literally not thought of those since grade school. Oddly, still remember the texture.

Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 08, 2019 03:07 PM (qul7b)

190 And I still hold out hope for Kate Upton running away with me
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 03:06 PM (jYyRI)

You probably have a better shot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 03:08 PM (ycWCI)

191 Uh, you need supply curve on that graph, or it means nothing. It's absolutely, thoroughly pointless. (Oh, and it's wrong, to boot. That curve - assuming 0 at the left axis - is the *supply* curve. Demand runs the other way.)

Posted by: GWB at September 08, 2019 03:08 PM (JJCAp)

192 Believe it or not, they have renamed Freedom Parkway around the Carter Center John Lewis Freedom Parkway. I am pretty sure Carter is still alive.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:09 PM (PUmDY)

193 So if enough people DEMAND that they get health care eventually it will be free.

What do I win?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 08, 2019 03:09 PM (mvenn)

194
Haha, story idea: some Magic Not-So-Christian billionaire buys up all the taxi medallions in NYC under various fake IDs and then doesn't use any of them. It would be like an episode of Underdog.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2019 03:10 PM (13CQC)

195 Look at the y-axis as the driving variable.

Posted by: tbodie at September 08, 2019 02:09 PM (0Euvx)


Price doesn't drive demand, supply does.

And it's still backwards.

Posted by: GWB at September 08, 2019 03:11 PM (JJCAp)

196 Uber trips dropped by well over a million in one month.

So NYC's policy worked!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:11 PM (YqDXo)

197 Believe it or not, they have renamed Freedom Parkway around the Carter Center John Lewis Freedom Parkway. I am pretty sure Carter is still alive.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

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I will speak for you, Carter. I speak for all mediocrities in the world. I am their Champion. I am their patron saint.

Posted by: Antonio Salieri at September 08, 2019 03:12 PM (LTccB)

198 ...episode of Underdog.

*******

I think the only superhero with a worse physique than Underdog has to be George Reeve's Superman.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 08, 2019 03:12 PM (mvenn)

199 Leprosy Next Public Health Crisis To Hit Los Angeles?

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Unclean! Unclean!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 03:12 PM (+y/Ru)

200 Bring out your dead!

Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at September 08, 2019 03:13 PM (qul7b)

201 I had an Uber driver tell me last month that they have shifted the model to paying drivers for "seat minutes" so he gets paid for being a driver whether there are fares or not. Which sounded shocking to me, because thats a JOB. If true, it could explain the losses, partly.
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at September 08, 2019 02:42 PM


Not completely true.

Before approximately 21 Aug., drivers were paid a rate per mile and a rate per minute from the time they picked up a passenger ("pax" in Uber-driver speak) until they dropped them off. In general, the longer the ride, the more profit for the driver.

Around that time (depending on city), they upped the $$/min., dropped the $$/mile. Drivers started getting paid when they accepted the ride, and drove to pick up the pax, as well as getting paid during the trip. $$ ends, as before, when the pax is dropped off. (The preceding applies to a single pax-trip only. There are arrangements that pick up and drop off additional passengers during a 'trip', and in general, the driver only makes a fixed fee for each additional pick-up.

Both Uber and Lyft are squeezing the drivers hard. Their investors have been subsidizing passengers heavily.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 08, 2019 03:13 PM (DMUuz)

202 It's always about the money and the payoffs/bribes. Dig deep enough and you'll find every council member who voted for this has a brother in law or cousin or owns a medallion.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 08, 2019 03:13 PM (FiUMj)

203

Uhhh. That chart is backwards....

Posted by: cecil1 at September 08, 2019 03:14 PM (ngPJd)

204 Reports in #Lebanon that senior #Hezbollah official Ali Hatom was found shot dead in his home in Southern #Beirut

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 08, 2019 03:14 PM (BqBId)

205 What do you do with carp?

Complain about it.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 08, 2019 03:14 PM (MSTWM)

206 Ali can leave his Hat on.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 08, 2019 03:15 PM (MSTWM)

207 Space Food Sticks and Tang. Breakfast of boys dreaming of being astronauts.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 08, 2019 03:15 PM (DMUuz)

208 Leprosy Next Public Health Crisis To Hit Los Angeles?

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Unclean! Unclean!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 03:12 PM (+y/Ru)

Where are they planning on putting the leper colony?

Posted by: Surfperch at September 08, 2019 03:17 PM (tVQUs)

209 http://bit.ly/2ZRsiUg
*******
Manager: Trump family building 'dynasty' for decades to come

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 08, 2019 03:17 PM (BqBId)

210 So if enough people DEMAND that they get health care eventually it will be free.

What do I win?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 08, 2019 03:09 PM


Michael Moore walking toward you, slight smile on his face, smoothing the latex glove and snapping the wrist elastic.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 08, 2019 03:17 PM (DMUuz)

211 149 134
Can somebody explain how much the cab driver himself pays for that medallion? Is the cost spread over the cab company?

The driver is just a peon. IIRC, the medallion is owned by a wealthier person or possibly a consortium.
Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 02:46 PM (T6t7i)

___

Yeah, Ahmed, who just landed at JFK 3 days ago, doesn't own the medallion. He's basically an employee of the medallion owner.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 08, 2019 03:18 PM (FiUMj)

212 What do you do with carp?

*********

From the time that Gil Finn was a boy
He thought bein' a fish would bring joy
Not being very sharp
He wished to be a carp
But it turns out he was just being koi

Posted by: Muldoon at September 08, 2019 03:18 PM (mvenn)

213 The price in dollars is very low on stuff bought on plastic with no intention of actually paying the bill.

Posted by: klaftern at September 08, 2019 03:18 PM (RuIsu)

214
Astros score 4 in the 2nd, 9 (so far) in the 3rd, lead Seattle 13-0.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 03:19 PM (7rVsF)

215 The Masked Singer looks to be not good. The Chinese guy from the Bachelor Party seems to have a thousand lives.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:20 PM (PUmDY)

216 Greetings:

I pushed a hack in NYC in the early '70s during one of my attempts at a college education. I would work evenings, Thursday through Sunday usually from 4pm to 10 or so. Back then, drivers got 49% of the meter plus tips. Once I got $40 on the meter, I'd usually had about $10 in tips in my pocket. $30 was my daily goal and it had a direct effect on my quitting timr.

Then came the "gypsy cabs" which were the taxi equivalent of today's homeless folks. Initially, they focused on ghetto areas under the guise of taxi racial discriminations but they didn't stay there long once they figured out that the city wasn't too interested in applying the rules to them.

One more bit of tid. AT one point, the taxi union went on strike (in the middle of winter no less) because older members were retiring and there wasn't much moola in the pension kitty. So, the union sold out the couple of year driver by reducing their pay to 40% with the 9% going into the pension fund for the career drivers. That's when I started looking for the exit.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 08, 2019 03:21 PM (evgyj)

217 Far-left activist David Hogg says America is violent because of "our history of white supremacy" and because the U.S. government was "genocidal" and committed "indigenous mass shootings"

Hogg says it's "OK to hate the injustice" and "oppression" America was founded on

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In an interview with Chris Hayes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 03:22 PM (+y/Ru)

218 Atlanta really sucks so far.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:24 PM (PUmDY)

219 You're going to fritter away the chance to buy a new one? 

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. 

His resistance will crumble. 

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 02:33 PM (7rVsF)

--------

Someone needs to come up with a pie chart STAT.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 08, 2019 03:24 PM (flINI)

220
Far-left activist David Hogg says America is violent because of "our history of white supremacy" and because the U.S. government was "genocidal" and committed "indigenous mass shootings"

I see Harvard has nothing to teach him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 03:25 PM (7rVsF)

221 In an interview with Chris Hayes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 03:22 PM (+y/Ru)

Odd, a little Goebbels look a like who says it is 'Ok to hate.'

It's deja vu all over again.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 03:28 PM (ycWCI)

222 Did anyone else get apple slices with peanut butter?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:29 PM (PUmDY)

223 Far-left activist David Hogg says America is violent because of "our history of white supremacy" and because the U.S. government was "genocidal" and committed "indigenous mass shootings"

Hogg says it's "OK to hate the injustice" and "oppression" America was founded on


Our little Horst Weasel is growing up, and metastasizing into other leftist causes.

They grow up so fast. Physically at least. In his case, in height, not in strength, since he looks like he'd need a spot to bench press a broom handle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

224 Any truth that the new Apple product is going to be the Biden-inspired i-Patch?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 08, 2019 03:31 PM (mvenn)

225 224 Any truth that the new Apple product is going to be the Biden-inspired i-Patch?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 08, 2019 03:31 PM (mvenn)


I thought that in honor of the Democrat Presidential hopefuls it was going to be the i-Pander.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:32 PM (YqDXo)

226 Don't mind me, I'm just here because I'm all out of syrup of Ipecac, and thought maybe the verbal reach arounds of AOS comments would help me toss up that bad burger from Sonic.

Posted by: Quilp at September 08, 2019 03:33 PM (Bf3hj)

227 Do they still make Applejacks cereal?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:34 PM (PUmDY)

228 I was informed that Apple now solders the battery to the case, and it now costs hundreds of dollars to replace the battery.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2019 02:27 PM

Apple solders in everything. You cannot even add or change RAM yourself. This is supposedly so the computer runs cooler. A cynic might say that Apple put in a gay CEO that wants to screw every Apple customer.

Posted by: Windows User at September 08, 2019 03:34 PM (fOqG5)

229 Just came back from a trip where we used Uber and Taxis extensively. The difference isn't the price. Uber is MUCH more convenient. Everything is handled and explained on the phone ap. Every Uber car was extremely clean, and the drivers very nice. The taxis were not. Uber was usually a couple of dollars cheaper, and could be summoned easily on the phone. I fear their efficiency is their death knell.

Posted by: Joe bar at September 08, 2019 03:34 PM (u02T3)

230

Atlanta sucks AND blows

Posted by: Door to Door Nothing Salesman at September 08, 2019 03:35 PM (qul7b)

231 Just another reason to avoid New York and New York City

Posted by: Myshiba at September 08, 2019 03:35 PM (e59CX)

232 I saw Verbal Reach Arounds open for Food Poisoning at the New China Buffet in '94.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 03:35 PM (ycWCI)

233 Even though there was no successful legal challenge to the law, I and others are convinced that if it had made it to SCOTUS it would have been ruled illegal.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 08, 2019 02:58 PM (JUOKG)



What, you never heard of a tax?

Posted by: Chief Disappointment John Roberts at September 08, 2019 03:36 PM (amw5z)

234
So if enough people DEMAND that they get health care eventually it will be free.

What do I win?
Posted by: Muldoon


The Democratic nomination.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2019 03:37 PM (aKsyK)

235

Would you rather eat a burger off the floor of a taxi cab or an Uber?

Posted by: David Hasselhorf at September 08, 2019 03:37 PM (qul7b)

236 230, did they have any first downs?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:37 PM (PUmDY)

237 U.S. government was "genocidal" and committed "indigenous mass shootings"

I know I ask this a lot, but what the hell does that even mean? The indigenous engage in mass shootings? I see a remedial English class in David piglet's future.

Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 03:38 PM (T6t7i)

238 1!

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:38 PM (PUmDY)

239 223: why is Hogg's face so misshapen?

Posted by: CN at September 08, 2019 03:38 PM (U7k5w)

240

English Motherfucker! I don't speak it!

Posted by: Adolf Hoff at September 08, 2019 03:39 PM (qul7b)

241 : why is Hogg's face so misshapen?

*********


Underlying vacuum?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 08, 2019 03:40 PM (mvenn)

242 I don't get the graph. Shouldn't it have two curves, one for price and one for demand? They could like cross in the middle or something.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 08, 2019 03:40 PM (amw5z)

243 South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate said he would allow gig workers to unionize to "put the interest of workers first."

I hope they unionize his bathhouse.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:41 PM (YqDXo)

244 Would you rather eat a burger off the floor of a taxi cab or an Uber?
Posted by: David Hasselhorf at September 08, 2019 03:37 PM (qul7b)


Also, most cabs charge $50 if you want to vomit in them, when you can vomit for free in a rideshare.

Food for thought...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 08, 2019 03:41 PM (amw5z)

245 237 U.S. government was "genocidal" and committed "indigenous mass shootings"

I know I ask this a lot, but what the hell does that even mean? The indigenous engage in mass shootings? I see a remedial English class in David piglet's future.
Posted by: pep at September 08, 2019 03:38 PM (T6t7i)


It just struck me: Horst Weasel IS raimondo!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:42 PM (YqDXo)

246 Mayor Pete misheard, thought it was gay workers.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 08, 2019 03:42 PM (MSTWM)

247 239
223: why is Hogg's face so misshapen?

Wouldn't surprise me if his jaw got broke.

Posted by: dartist at September 08, 2019 03:42 PM (K22Va)

248 why is Hogg's face so misshapen?

He accidentally ventured out of the liberal bubble?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:43 PM (YqDXo)

249 243 South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate said he would allow gig workers to unionize to "put the interest of workers first."

I hope they unionize his bathhouse.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:41 PM (YqDXo)

Shouldn't it be 'South Bend Mayor and 2020 Democratic candidate Pete Buttigeg'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 03:44 PM (ycWCI)

250 Browns are BROWNing

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 08, 2019 03:45 PM (BqBId)

251

Uber? Hey... Uber Alles. UBER IS A NAZI FRONT!!!!!

Posted by: Adolph Hogg at September 08, 2019 03:45 PM (qul7b)

252 There are brands like Makers that invert it to a point

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:47 PM (PUmDY)

253 Shouldn't it be 'South Bend Mayor and 2020 Democratic candidate Pete Buttigeg'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 03:44 PM (ycWCI)


Public education, you can't beat it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:47 PM (YqDXo)

254 California is attempting to kill Uber and Lyft by requiring that all of their independent contractors be considered employees for benefit and taxation purposes. The newspapers are afraid that they'll be caught in the crossfire because all their newsboys etc. will be employees also.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 03:49 PM (+y/Ru)

255
Public education + Journalism Degree = Illiteracy + Stupidity

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 03:49 PM (7rVsF)

256 Public education + Journalism Degree = Illiteracy + Stupidity

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 03:49 PM (7rVsF)

It's more ignorant than the sum of it's parts!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 03:51 PM (ycWCI)

257 why is Hogg's face so misshapen?

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At Mrs. Wrecks' school, they refer to such kids who have misshapen skulls as FLKs; i.e., Funny Looking Kids.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 03:53 PM (+y/Ru)

258 Reports in #Lebanon that senior #Hezbollah official Ali Hatom was found shot dead in his home in Southern #Beirut
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 08, 2019 03:14 PM (BqBId)

Good riddance!........

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 08, 2019 03:54 PM (Z+IKu)

259 was Beto as nonsensical in the Senate race?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:55 PM (PUmDY)

260 Price doesn't drive demand, supply does.

Posted by: GWB at September 08, 2019 03:11 PM (JJCAp)


*facepalm*
Supply doesn't drive demand, it drives price. And price incentivizes supply.

Posted by: GWB at September 08, 2019 03:55 PM (JJCAp)

261 Even before Uber, the taxi service in Houston was not as big as one would think in the 4th largest city in the country. I'm just guessing but I'm thinking Los Angeles was the same.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 08, 2019 03:55 PM (2DOZq)

262 was Beto as nonsensical in the Senate race?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:55 PM (PUmDY)



He didn't go full Kennedy until he ran for president. Unfortunately, he went full Rosemary Kennedy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 08, 2019 03:56 PM (amw5z)

263 256 Public education + Journalism Degree = Illiteracy + Stupidity

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2019 03:49 PM (7rVsF)

It's more ignorant than the sum of its parts!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 03:51 PM (ycWCI)


It's siner ... synn ... sinner... synur ... it's more than the sum of its parts!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 03:57 PM (YqDXo)

264 Wasn't there a regular commentor who used the handle 'Adam Smith's Pimp Hand'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 03:57 PM (ycWCI)

265 facepalm*
Supply doesn't drive demand, it drives price. And price incentivizes supply.
Posted by: GWB at September 08, 2019 03:55 PM (

Don't let it happen again . We e got a reputation to keep up .

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 08, 2019 03:57 PM (2DOZq)

266 I was trying to understand how it was close

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 03:58 PM (PUmDY)

267 Beto has been an ignorant a-hole even before his Senate run.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 08, 2019 03:59 PM (2DOZq)

268

India found it's lander. It stopped off for a curry and jacked by a hood muzzie.

Posted by: Omega Maximus at September 08, 2019 03:59 PM (qul7b)

269 NEW CBS NEWS POLL:
Warren 26%
Biden 25%
Sanders 19%
Harris 8%
Buttigieg 6%
O'Rourke 4%
MOE: +/- 1.5%
Voter preference across early-state contests through Super Tuesday 2020 shows Senator Elizabeth Warren has risen.

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I'm going with MOE. Oh, wise guy, huh?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 03:59 PM (+y/Ru)

270 267 Beto has been an ignorant a-hole even before his Senate run.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 08, 2019 03:59 PM (2DOZq)

Stupid is forever.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:00 PM (ycWCI)

271 267 Beto has been an ignorant a-hole even before his Senate run.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 08, 2019 03:59 PM (2DOZq)


He's trying - successfully, I might add - to outflank Marianne Williamson on the woo-woo flake front.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 04:00 PM (YqDXo)

272 Warren is a white hot incarnation of charisma and talent!


Banana!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:01 PM (ycWCI)

273 Apple Brown Bettys are browning. Apple Pandowdys are pandowdying.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 08, 2019 04:01 PM (MSTWM)

274 He's trying - successfully, I might add - to outflank Marianne Williamson on the woo-woo flake front.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 04:00 PM (YqDXo)

There can be only one, and I do not think he has the stones.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:01 PM (ycWCI)

275 Early states like Iowa and especially NH, where Warren should do well

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:01 PM (1UZdv)

276 Food nood.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 08, 2019 04:02 PM (Dhht7)

277 NEW CBS NEWS POLL:
Warren 26%
Biden 25%
Sanders 19%
Harris 8%
Buttigieg 6%
O'Rourke 4%
MOE: +/- 1.5%
Voter preference across early-state contests through Super Tuesday 2020 shows Senator Elizabeth Warren has risen.


She is risen!

They really should poll outside the C-BS newsroom, though.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 04:02 PM (YqDXo)

278 275 Early states like Iowa and especially NH, where Warren should do well
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:01 PM (1UZdv)

I'm sorry, but who can get excited about Elizabeth Warren? I can even see Hillary!'s appeal more easily. And that is a low bar to step over.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:03 PM (ycWCI)

279 Warren is a white hot incarnation of charisma and talent!

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And sex appeal!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 04:03 PM (+y/Ru)

280 My friend has been picking Warren to be the Dem nominee since the start . I told him he was crazy and she might have less charisma than Hillary. Might have to eat my words.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 08, 2019 04:03 PM (2DOZq)

281 There can be only one, and I do not think he has the stones.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:01 PM (ycWCI)


Ah, but does he have the crystals?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

282 Warren is a white hot incarnation of charisma and talent!

-
And sex appeal!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 04:03 PM (+y/Ru)


Elizabeth Warren/Marcy Darcy 2020! Let's get hectored by the best!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 04:05 PM (YqDXo)

283 Ever wonder what Apple's core business really is?


Also nood food

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 08, 2019 04:05 PM (BiNEL)

284 Warren could win Iowa and NH. Biden will crush the field in SC, assuming he doesn't spaz out early. Which will expose the split in the D party.

A house divided against itself cannot stand, said some guy.

The split will affect turnout for whoever is the D nominee.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:07 PM (1UZdv)

285 Ah, but does he have the crystals?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

How can he? She's gripping them all.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:07 PM (ycWCI)

286 Warren gets some of Hillary's support plus the Commie Crazies who see that Bernie is hopeless.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:09 PM (1UZdv)

287 286 Warren gets some of Hillary's support plus the Commie Crazies who see that Bernie is hopeless.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:09 PM (1UZdv)

That sentence actually gives me some hope.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:10 PM (ycWCI)

288 Stella Blue out of space even now is very moving.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 04:10 PM (PUmDY)

289 Bernie is hopeless.

-
Speaking of animal magnetism . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 04:11 PM (+y/Ru)

290 289 Bernie is hopeless.

-
Speaking of animal magnetism . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2019 04:11 PM (+y/Ru)

Don't forget physical prowess- but that is part of the raw animal magnetism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:13 PM (ycWCI)

291 The surge in support for Lizzie Warren over the last few days is believed to be linked to her recent adoption of a brand new Indian name:

"Candidate With No Blood In Eye"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 08, 2019 04:14 PM (amw5z)

292 Warren is all about funding the crap education system we have.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 04:19 PM (PUmDY)

293 291 The surge in support for Lizzie Warren over the last few days is believed to be linked to her recent adoption of a brand new Indian name:

"Candidate With No Blood In Eye"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 08, 2019 04:14 PM (amw5z)

It's just the Aneurysm haters!
-Slow Joe

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:20 PM (ycWCI)

294 It's hard to trust Uber or Lyft. They are making this big push, spending billions on promotions and advertising, in the hope of a big payoff. How are they going to get there?
* After they crush the competition, they raise prices by a lot
* They expand into delivery services and eventually replace the post office
* They perfect AI driving and fire all their drivers
* They put car manufacturers out of business; in the future, few people still own a car, 90% rent one by the hour
* They may get cozy with and become an unofficial arm of the government (i.e. the payoff is in the form of political power)
* All of the above
Surely that's too ambitious and unlikely to succeed, but it's creepy nevertheless.

Posted by: PG at September 08, 2019 04:22 PM (iqCkn)

295 And now I want apple crisp.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 08, 2019 02:41 PM (myjNJ)


I made pear crisp today.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2019 04:23 PM (xG/b0)

296 Something else will take its place as long as we live in a capitalistic country.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 04:25 PM (PUmDY)

297 And they log all your movements for the government, including when you home is vacant so the gummint gun confiscators can come in and search at their leisure

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 08, 2019 04:27 PM (BiNEL)

298 287 286 Warren gets some of Hillary's support plus the Commie Crazies who see that Bernie is hopeless.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:09 PM (1UZdv)

That sentence actually gives me some hope.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:10 PM (ycWCI)


I think the wild card is the white working class male vote in the erstwhile "blue wall." I suspect the Dems want the "blue wall" back more than anything, and don't see Fauxcahontas as delivering it. (Plus Trump has already pwned her on the DNA front, proving she doesn't have the chops to hang with him.) So unless he blue-screens entirely, I think they'll likely end up with Biden anyway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 08, 2019 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

299 Warren seems somewhat evil to me.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 04:29 PM (PUmDY)

300 299 Warren seems somewhat evil to me.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 04:29 PM (PUmDY)

I get more complete incompetence. That does not mean she is not evil, just that she seems like a grifter who is really bad at it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:33 PM (ycWCI)

301 More than this I cannot ask.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 04:34 PM (PUmDY)

302 So if enough people DEMAND that they get health care eventually it will be free.



What do I win?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 08, 2019 03:09 PM (mvenn)


since you have a medical background: conscription and the opportunity to achieve the award of being a "medical Stakhanovite".

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2019 04:34 PM (xG/b0)

303 "If 9/11 happened in NY today, I'm not so sure the same support would be
given as in 2001. They've chosen their path. They aren't part of the
America most of us feel we live in, not by a long shot. The Today
show'ing of America attempts at forcing us to believe we all hold
Manhattan values has failed. No, we don't want to be celebrities, we
want to decide our own fate.

Posted by: Quilp at September 08, 2019 02:20 PM (Bf3hj)"
..
This is going to be really relevant if things get out of hand, because one of the first things to go will be flyover country support of the blue cesspits.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at September 08, 2019 04:35 PM (67XdO)

304 Ds have spent several election cycles alienating the white working class, especially males. I don't see Biden winning them back in the general. Trump will beat on his fake Scranton roots. Biden's a bigger faker than Warren. Just hasn't been called on it.

Ds can't win purple states without white male worker bees. Suburbs tend to be in Deep Blue States.

Ultimately its math. White non-college is the largest cohort of all (3x the black electorate). But Ds can't do math.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:35 PM (1UZdv)

305 since you have a medical background: conscription and the opportunity to achieve the award of being a "medical Stakhanovite".
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2019 04:34 PM (xG/b0)

Nice reference. I love this place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:38 PM (ycWCI)

306 I think Warren, more than the other candidates, knows what she is saying.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 04:39 PM (PUmDY)

307 Far-left activist David Hogg says America is violent because of "our history of white supremacy"

No violence in non-white countries, y'know.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 08, 2019 04:41 PM (oVJmc)

308 Warren is smart and organized (like Hillary). And knows how to advance herself above all (like Obama).

But she'll lose 40 states.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:41 PM (1UZdv)

309 Price doesn't drive demand, supply does.

And it's still backwards.
Posted by: GWB at September 08, 2019 03:11 PM (JJCAp)

Er. No. Price is the equilibrium market clearing point at which the purchaser is willing to pay what the supplier is charging, and what the supplier is willing to produce at given demand. The supplier seeks a price point at it's lowest marginal cost of the last widget produced. The purchaser seeks a price point at his highest marginal utility. As you can imagine, that's a pretty intricate dance on both sides, and the equilibrium price is only an approximation.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 04:42 PM (+dfXz)

310
I get more complete incompetence. That does not
mean she is not evil, just that she seems like a grifter who is really
bad at it. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2019 04:33 PM (ycWCI)
=====

She is a very successful grifter -- those 'high-end' professorships are not easy to get without serious and concentrated lying.

Working at Harvard, she has made bank (by her misrepresentations and lies) and her husband working at Harvard has made bank -- roughly $900k per year plus benefits -- then add Senatorial money and health care and pensions -- she is in the 1%. Greedy, nasty, and disgusting oligarch trying to set 'values' to support her various scams.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 08, 2019 04:42 PM (MIKMs)

311 FFS, David. We have gun crime rates like Jamaica in certain blue cities (where guns are illegal). The rest of the country (where guns are legal) have gun crime rates like Canada.

Why is this? Nothing white about it.

Speaking of Jamaica, here's The Clash:
I went to the place where every white face
Is an invitation to robbery
And sitting here in my safe European home
Don't want to go back there again

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:46 PM (1UZdv)

312 Pull my finger.

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at September 08, 2019 04:49 PM (yQpMk)

313 And, yes, the graph is correct. Imagine that price is horizontal to the x axis and it is variable. As prices rise, demand falls. As prices decrease, demand increases. But, as others have pointed out, the price of widgets are not arbitrary. That horizontal price line moves up and down according to the equilibrium clearing price. It is that mechanism that socialists try to pretend does not exist at their peril.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 04:49 PM (+dfXz)

314 Er no. Price is where you see a trade between a buyer and seller. In the real world it's a lot more dynamic and many variables come into play, especially over time.

Simplistic supply demand graphs are for Econ 101

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:49 PM (1UZdv)

315 "As prices rise, demand falls. "

Nope. It seeks alternatives. So price elasticity comes into play, among lots of other variables.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:53 PM (1UZdv)

316 Simplistic supply demand graphs are for Econ 101
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:49 PM (1UZdv)

Simplistic, but axiomatic. Sure, a supplier can attempt to set prices above market clearing equilibrium, but demand will adjust and find another supplier, or demand will switch to another widget that provides greater marginal utility than the widget being offered above the natural clearing price. At that point the original supplier will have to fall back to the lower price point. Price is a dependent variable.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 04:58 PM (+dfXz)

317 Your basic graph shows that demand goes down with price, which is not the case for most goods and services.

Like you say, demand "will adjust and find another supplier, or demand will switch to another widget" . But that's not what the graph says.

What you're saying is why free, market-based economies are dynamic. And why they'll always outperform central planning,

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 05:05 PM (1UZdv)

318
Nope. It seeks alternatives. So price elasticity comes into play, among lots of other variables.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 04:53 PM (1UZdv)

Price elasticity has to do with demand sensitivity. In the case of inelastic demand, the demand curve is steeper - in extreme cases the curve can be almost vertical. It's the conundrum underlying health care pricing policy wherein consumers are willing to pay whatever it takes to keep living and not be sick.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 05:05 PM (+dfXz)

319 Does anyone else have the Marvin Gaye box set? wow

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2019 05:10 PM (PUmDY)

320 "It's the conundrum underlying health care pricing policy "

Our health care pricing is a singularity mostly driven by its being third party payer. Consumer are willing to pay whatever the insurer or the government will pay.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 05:10 PM (1UZdv)

321 Get woke go broke.

Where's my free ride?

Posted by: torabora at September 08, 2019 05:15 PM (UqmyQ)

322 Like you say, demand "will adjust and find another supplier, or demand will switch to another widget" . But that's not what the graph says.

What you're saying is why free, market-based economies are dynamic. And why they'll always outperform central planning,
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 05:05 PM (1UZdv)

You are right that a demand curve on its own provides no information about price points. You have to have a supply curve to determine that. But here, the demand curve is correct, but it only displays a generality of price/demand sensitivity. Run a straight edge horizontal with the x axis and move it up and down the y (price) axis. It will correctly tell you - generally - that the higher the price of a thing the less demand there is for it. On a supply/demand curve, the y axis is always the price variable. It's kind of counter intuitive.

You could draw a demand curve with demand as the y axis and price as the x axis, but it would be an inverse function. The curve would end up being convex instead of concave. However, the established graph is the one posted above.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 05:19 PM (+dfXz)

323 Demand Curve:

https://tinyurl.com/y6ph7xew

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 05:22 PM (+dfXz)

324
Our health care pricing is a singularity mostly driven by its being third party payer. Consumer are willing to pay whatever the insurer or the government will pay.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 05:10 PM (1UZdv)

That certainly causes distortion in demand. The whole health care pricing mechanism is screwed up.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 05:24 PM (+dfXz)

325 "the higher the price of a thing the less demand there is for it. "
This confuses demand with whether there are market clearing trades (ie economic activity).

If gas were to go $10 the demand would still be there, but less satisfied. Price serves as a rationing device.

And don't get me going on luxury items like Jimmy Choo shoes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 05:26 PM (1UZdv)

326 I think the only superhero with a worse physique than Underdog has to be George Reeve's Superman.
Posted by: Muldoon

Considering that he's been dead for 50 plus years, he's lost some muscle tone.

Posted by: JT at September 08, 2019 05:30 PM (arJlL)

327 The article you posted says:
Demand curves are usually considered as theoretical structures that are expected to exist in the real world, but real world measurements of actual demand curves are difficult and rare,

That's because they're only models. In the simple example, built on self-reflexive assumptions.

In the real world, it's trade or no trade.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 05:32 PM (1UZdv)

328 6 10 yearscago a cabbie in Perth AUSTRALIA told me his taxi medallion cost $250,000. How much does it cost in NYC

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Quite a bit more I would presume.

Don't forget he blowjobs.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 08, 2019 05:38 PM (dmoiP)

329 If gas were to go $10 the demand would still be there, but less satisfied. Price serves as a rationing device.

The demand curve is based on widgets purchased at a certain price. If gas went to $10 per gallon it would show the demand curve to be correct. Fewer people would buy fewer gallons of gas. Thus, the higher the price the fewer units sold. Demand is not the same thing as desire. It is the decision to acquire a widget because it meets marginal utility at an established price. Price is established by supply/demand equilibrium.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 05:38 PM (+dfXz)

330
24 Does that $27.86 minimum wage in NYC apply only to ride share companies? And if so, how can that be legal

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That's cute. You think the law means something to Democrats.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 08, 2019 05:40 PM (dmoiP)

331 Quite a bit more I would presume.

Don't forget he blowjobs.
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at September 08, 2019 05:38 PM (dmoiP)



I forget. Under GAAP, is the value of blowjobs added or deducted from the cost of the medallion?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 08, 2019 05:41 PM (amw5z)

332 In the real world, it's trade or no trade.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 05:32 PM (1UZdv)

Based on the assumption that the parties on both sides of the transaction have assessed their own needs and self interests, and that each has reasonably approximated the value as expressed by money given and widgets sold in a mutually beneficial transaction.

But I get what you are saying.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 05:45 PM (+dfXz)

333
I forget. Under GAAP, is the value of blowjobs added or deducted from the cost of the medallion?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 08, 2019 05:41 PM (amw5z)

And is inventory based on LIFO or FIFO?

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 05:50 PM (+dfXz)

334 Uber drivers are exempt from the minimum wage in NYC because they're considered contractors. Recently NYC passed a thing that gave them a minimum of $17.

But this doesn't address the real issue with Uber drivers. They have to pay their own auto maintenance. So when they get that $1000 bill they quit. Uber drivers on average last less than a year. This will put a real crimp in Uber's expansion plans/

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 05:54 PM (1UZdv)

335 Graph is wrong

Posted by: RobM1981 at September 08, 2019 06:12 PM (2j4ud)

336 D = f(p, q)

Sorry. It just is.

Posted by: RobM1981 at September 08, 2019 06:13 PM (2j4ud)

337 Demand doesn't go down because the price went up. It's still there but not at a market clearing price.

If I'm in business, I'm looking for how I can satisfy that demand at the current market price. ie. can I increase supply, or deliver a substitute.

It's more than semantics. It's what drives dynamic market-based economies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 06:21 PM (1UZdv)

338 Probably been said, and I am sorry for the conservatives in NYC, but most of those people vote Dem so they deserve what they get.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 08, 2019 06:26 PM (r+sAi)

339 Price goes up, demand goes down. Seems simple enough.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 08, 2019 06:28 PM (r+sAi)

340 "It's always about the money and the payoffs/bribes. Dig deep enough and you'll find every council member who voted for this has a brother in law or cousin or owns a medallion."

Maybe they bought them cheap when the price crashed. Now after this ordinance passes the prices will double.

Posted by: PG at September 08, 2019 06:37 PM (iqCkn)

341 demand in this case is relatively fixed, but not completely. Uber increased supply, but they may not be sustainable if they find they are losing money. And government interfering also means the situation is not normal price/demand driven analysis.


It is the medallion controlled supply, using government to cripple competition. Pay government enough and they will put the thumb on the scale, pay them more and they will prosecute your enemies, and ignore your own crimes.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 08, 2019 06:42 PM (Cus5s)

342 Uber got a key ruling in NYC. Only medallion cabs can pick up street fares. Judge ruled that using Uber's app is not the same as hailing a cab on the street. The market value of 12,000 NYC medallions was $14 billion; now it's less than $2 billion. Mostly because this ruling blew up the medallion business model. Using an app to find a cab is easier than waiting for the cab to find you. And any schmoo can drive a cab using GPS

But Uber doesn't "own" this. Lyft and new copycats using ride apps can too (and there are already copycats in NYC)

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 06:55 PM (1UZdv)

343 If I'm in business, I'm looking for how I can satisfy that demand at the current market price. ie. can I increase supply, or deliver a substitute.

Why would you act against your own self interest and keep the price low in the face of higher demand? If demand will support a higher price at the same marginal unit price of production you will, in fact, cause a market shortage. The other day my favorite lemon tea was on sale for 1/2 price. What a great deal... That is until I got to the store and there was none left on the shelves. Of course there are sales and marketing strategies that go into pricing other than market clearing considerations. The point, though, is you don't meet increased demand by holding the line on prices; you raise the price to service current demand.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 06:55 PM (+dfXz)

344 335 Graph is wrong
Posted by: RobM1981 at September 08, 2019 06:12 PM (2j4ud)

No. It's not. And I'm going to pull rank. I was an econ major in a highly respected department, and this is the correct graphing function.

https://tinyurl.com/y6ph7xew

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 07:01 PM (+dfXz)

345 If demand will support a higher price at the same marginal unit price of production you will, in fact, cause a market shortage.

Meant to say:

If demand will support a higher price at the same marginal unit price of production you will, in fact, cause a market shortage IF YOU DON'T RAISE PRICES.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 08, 2019 07:04 PM (+dfXz)

346 Saying that demand goes down when price goes up is a tautology that makes the model work. It's of limited utility when you get into the real world.

What actually happens is that you have no trades above the market clearing price. (Assuming lots of widget makers so no pricing power). It's not the demand went away, it's that the model demands a straight line.

Think flat screen TVs . Years ago people going to Wal*Mart craved them. The demand was there but they couldn't afford them. Cut the price and sales shot up. Even with the price cut, the dollar volume sold is probably much greater.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 07:14 PM (1UZdv)

347 " you will, in fact, cause a market shortage IF YOU DON'T RAISE PRICES."

That's because price rations who gets the widget (or flat screen TV).

At the market clearing price, there are always some who would have paid more.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 07:17 PM (1UZdv)

348 Now if instead of saying demand goes down when price goes up, you instead say "you sell fewer units when price goes up", then I agree with you.

Depending on price elasticity you may increase revenues despite raising prices. More so, for profits if you have strong margins and pricing power. That's the luxury market.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2019 07:48 PM (1UZdv)

349 When demand goes up
And supply goes down,
People gather 'round
And they all begin to frown.

Posted by: mnw at September 08, 2019 08:56 PM (Cssks)

350 Entry level? Thats cabs driven by minorities and immigrants. Ubers are driven by people who can afford nearly new cars. Uber doesn't believe in laws I am surprised if they pat their drivers 37 dollars an hour taxi drivers don't get that.

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