Former Senator Hank Brown Comments on His Former Colleague Joe Biden's Mental Fitness: "I will be surprised if he survives the primaries"

I assume he intended "survives the primaries" to mean "prevails in the primaries," but who knows. Biden is old and fading.


Brown: Senator Biden is a pleasant, outgoing individual. He was consistently one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate. To hear him described as a moderate could happen only in Washington, D.C.

Freeman: For an unrelated project, I have just screened six hours of campaign tape on Joe Biden. As you might expect, an original thought did not once interrupt the partisan boilerplate. But there was another problem, a problem not unknown to those of us of a certain age. The word Biden was looking for was, more than occasionally, hidden in the back of a closet. You've watched him for more than 30 years. Is he up to the job he's applied for?

Brown: I never observed in him the qualities of intellect, vision, exceptional integrity, or savvy that are required in an effective president. I will be surprised if he survives the primaries.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:38 PM




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1 Bill Clinton

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2019 01:39 PM (q177U)

2 I'll get the others

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2019 01:39 PM (q177U)

3 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:40 PM (iikV8)

4 "Surviving the primaries" had a whole different meaning last election when Hillary was running.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2019 01:41 PM (0yxK0)

5 LOL get fucked

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2019 01:41 PM (l9mVC)

6 So Comrade Bernie in 2020

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 21, 2019 01:41 PM (XkX6f)

7 Biden: 'Jill Swallows hard'.

Posted by: Redenzo at August 21, 2019 01:41 PM (14qvS)

8 He'll lose Iowa and New Hampshire.

He might win South Carolina, but months of sticking his foot in his mouth might make that difficult.

If he loses all of the first three races, he's not a frontrunner by any definition. Then why vote for him, according to his wife's criteria?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:41 PM (iikV8)

9 " I never observed in him the qualities of intellect, vision, exceptional integrity, or savvy that are required in an effective president."

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Is this about me?

Posted by: Barry Hussein Obama at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (FiUMj)

10 I've never seen Creepy Joe as pleasant. Outgoing? Maybe, but pleasant, no way.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (II6Oo)

11 "Savvy"???

WT?

Is this 1800 something?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (6qErC)

12 Biden could be propped up by the media, but he won't let them. He's too used to getting away with saying the stupidest things imaginable.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (Bgx7w)

13 Joey Bidet might blow his hair plugs ....

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (XkX6f)

14 Brown: I never observed in him the qualities of intellect, vision, exceptional integrity, or savvy that are required in an effective president. I will be surprised if he survives the primaries.

Posted by Ace of Spades at 01:38 PM Comments

All he's gotta do is make it to Super Tuesday. He doesn't have to be smart if the MSM is carrying his water.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (RD7QR)

15 If the rotten old bastard croaks I wonder what they'll do with them big chicklet looking teeth of his? Every time he smiles them teeth weird me out.

Posted by: JROD at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (0pMBV)

16 It's conspicuous that Obama is not backing his own VP.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (O7MnT)

17 Dayum, that quote by Brown is gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: rammajamma at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (PQRcz)

18

I'm Number One!
I'm Number One!

Posted by: Joe Biden's brain at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (aKsyK)

19 16 It's conspicuous that Obama is not backing his own VP.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (O7MnT)

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Obama leads from behind.

He's waiting for an actual frontrunner with a very clear path to the nomination. Then he'll endorse.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (iikV8)

20 It's conspicuous that Obama is not backing his own VP."

She's not running.

Oh, you meant official VP...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (6qErC)

21
It's conspicuous that Obama is not backing his own VP.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (O7MnT)

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Again.

You left out "again".

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (8XRCm)

22 You big meanies - denying Joey his last dream! Now in his end times you'd deny him this one last wish.

You should be ashamed! Ashamed!

Posted by: Make-a-wish Pier and beam Foundation at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (37IEG)

23 Unless something extraordinary happens, like a heart attack or whatever, Biden will be the nominee. The DNC is still run by old skool (literally OLD) skool and they have no patience for Buttplug or Harris or any of the other clowns.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (FiUMj)

24 What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (JziUy)

25 The Fredo of candidates.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (4sTkh)

26 So in other words, Biden is as dumb as we thought.

"They are who we thought they were!" - Dennis Green

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (bkUtD)

27 >>Brown: I never observed in him the qualities of intellect, vision, exceptional integrity, or savvy that are required in an effective president.


That's gonna leave a mark!

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (7JSnm)

28 It's conspicuous that Obama is not backing his own VP.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (O7MnT)

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I was too young to pay attention, did Reagan back Bush in 1988?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (FiUMj)

29 I'm Number One!
I'm Number One!
Posted by: Joe Biden's brain"

A.B. Normal?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (6qErC)

30 I view Biden's numbers as a 'none of the below' vote. It doesn't represent an affirmative I gotta have some moar of dat Joe vote.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (2LelM)

31 10 I've never seen Creepy Joe as pleasant. Outgoing? Maybe, but pleasant, no way.
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (II6Oo)

He's a blowhard. He's loud and personable but underneath it all is an insult. It's like the hail fellow well met at work: even when he pounds you on the back he talks smack about you.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (RD7QR)

32
Maybe Mike Trout can hit a home run for him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (Wx/+I)

33 Pretty sure the plan is that Biden will run at the top of the ticket with a hard lefty like Fauxcahontas, Tank Abrams, or Kneepads as VP. Then, Biden will be pushed aside for the authoritarian socialist.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (O7MnT)

34 If the rotten old bastard croaks I wonder what they'll do with them big chicklet looking teeth of his? Every time he smiles them teeth weird me out.
Posted by: JROD



They'll save them in case AOC needs spares.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (hpmES)

35
What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (JziUy)

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Beg Michelle to jump in.


Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (8XRCm)

36 Previous thread
280 265 2020 National Democratic Primary:

Biden 22%
Sanders 19%
Warren 18%
Buttigieg 8%
Harris 8%
O'Rourke 3%
Booker 2%
Gabbard 2%
Castro 1%
Posted by: Ha

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That, my friend, looks like the recipe for a brokered convention.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba



Brokered? Listen kid, that won't happen 'cause nothing's broke.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (786Ro)

37 Chloe Salsameda @ChloeSalsameda
#NEW: Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are noncitizens or crossed into the U.S. illegally.

"You walk over the border, have a baby - congratulations, the baby is now a U.S. citizen.... It's frankly ridiculous."
*********
Willowed
*********
JackStraw mentioned this

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (BqBId)

38 I agree, so I wonder what is going on.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (vEIlU)

39 How they heck did something everyone is already thinking actually get published?

There must have been a major screw-up somewhere.

Accidental journalism hurts every one!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (1ISKN)

40 >>>22 You big meanies - denying Joey his last dream! Now in his end times you'd deny him this one last wish.

You should be ashamed! Ashamed!
Posted by: Make-a-wish Pier and beam Foundation

...

this is a funny observation.

Joe Biden, the Make-A-Wish Candidate

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (PbpT7)

41 Elizabeth Warren is the nominee. Yeah, it shocked me too when I realized it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (LISuA)

42 I wonder if Steyer is a trojan horse

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (vEIlU)

43 As Hitchens said, W's presidency showed you don't have to be smart to be president.
I mean, Reagan had vision and policies (including asylum for all of south america, a prima dos ahora)
HW had ?
Clinton was smart but had nothing else of value as a person
W ... read 100 books a year.
Obama dumb and bad policies and worse vanity than Bill.
Trump...well, he's smarter than Biden.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (JziUy)

44 I was too young to pay attention, did Reagan back Bush in 1988?"

Yep. Even on Page One of the New Yawk Thymes...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (6qErC)

45 Oh my, that's brutal.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (G0vdT)

46
What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA

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Good question. Strike chaos? They've got to know they need the "center."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (13CQC)

47 Sooner or later Al Franken will pounce and seize the nomination.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (2LelM)

48 46
What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA

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Good question. Strike chaos? They've got to know they need the "center."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (13CQC)

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Coalesce around Warren.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (iikV8)

49 It's like highlander, whoever knocks biden out gets his energy

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (HALdu)

50

Maybe Biden and Warren made a deal. Make her look good. I'm serious. And keep raising money. Just hang in there until necessary, then drop out.

It's creepy.

But Biden's wife sounded sincere. Crazy and sad, but sincere.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (vEIlU)

51 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

52 That, my friend, looks like the recipe for a brokered convention.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba

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Looks like the DNC is looking for their mcCain...a guy that will lose with dignity. And by dignity, the DNC means poo flinging rage.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (JziUy)

53 Senator Biden is a pleasant, outgoing individual.

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Half credit. I'll give you "outgoing".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (+y/Ru)

54 47 Sooner or later Al Franken will pounce and seize the nomination.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (2LelM)

And then squeeze its tits.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (RD7QR)

55
Wow. Good ol' Hank shivs Biden. First time a CO politician has spoken the truth in many, many years.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (AzW6q)

56 Wow, I misread the headline as Hank Johnson says......and I thought to myself that if Hank Johnson thinks you are dumb then all is lost.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (a4EWo)

57 Al Franken will grab Marianne's or Tulsi's boobs?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (XkX6f)

58 I will be surprised if he survives the primaries.
Never ever underestimate the stupidity of the democratic voter.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (N39Ws)

59 Good question. Strike chaos? They've got to know they need the "center."

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Thor meme...do they though?

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (JziUy)

60 I've never seen Creepy Joe as pleasant. Outgoing? Maybe, but pleasant, no way.
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (II6Oo)


He strikes me as the kind of guy who's pleasant to your face, but when he's around the boss, says "That guy talks smack about you all the time."

And he gets a little too friendly at the office Christmas parties.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (BmxiN)

61 The mother freaker should be prequalified for the 25th Amendment just based on the most idiotic statement ever uttered by a national politician.

FDR went on TV to calm the public after the Stock Market crash ( 1929 ) .

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (2DOZq)

62 I think he really means "survives."


His onset Alzheimer's is really starting to show and he may lose everything before 2020 with all the stress of running for president.

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

63 I wonder if Steyer is a trojan horse

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (vEIlU)

I was wondering about that guy and why isn't he showing up in the polls yet. I thought he was buying in?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (q1Pj5)

64
I wonder if Steyer is a trojan horse
Posted by: artisanal 'ette

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Who's Troy?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (13CQC)

65 20
It's conspicuous that Obama is not backing his own VP."



She's not running.



Oh, you meant official VP...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (6qErC)
He's busy making movies about Chinese companies that took over American factories during his administration, and how terrible they are.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (37IEG)

66 I'm waiting for Biden to claim he was one of the '4 Dead in Ohio' that CSN was singing about.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (7JSnm)

67 Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship "

It's not nice to tease.

If that does happen.... "celebrate" is too mild of a term.

"unimaginable hardcore throwdown visible from several galaxies away" is more appropriate.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (6qErC)

68 New Hampshire Shocker: Joe Biden Chokes on Foot

Democratic field wide open. And empty.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (sN9mD)

69 Al Franken will grab Marianne's or Tulsi's boobs?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (XkX6f)


EMBRACE the power of 'and.'

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

70
Maybe Biden and Warren made a deal. Make her look good. I'm serious. And keep raising money. Just hang in there until necessary, then drop out.

It's creepy.

But Biden's wife sounded sincere. Crazy and sad, but sincere.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (vEIlU

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I've suspected from the outset that Biden may be running simply to keep his worthless shit of a son out of the clink.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (AzW6q)

71 41 Elizabeth Warren is the nominee. Yeah, it shocked me too when I realized it.
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First, she has to take out Bernie. Let's wait and see. The only surprise in teh bunch is Tulsi.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (2LelM)

72 Biden uses Fox's Shep Smith in YouTube gun control ad along with CNN, MSNBC and NPR.

Donald Trump's Broken Promises on Gun Safety Reform https://youtu.be/3ztXPSqHd5U

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (9BmSv)

73 Integrity? He can't live up to Hillary's standards.

Posted by: BignJames at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (ykq7q)

74 New Hampshire Shocker: Joe Biden Chokes on Foot

Democratic field wide open. And empty.
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (sN9mD)


Biden Trapped in Refrigerator, Eats Own Foot

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (Zz0t1)

75 To think, Joey Choo Choo has been cognitively disabled for 31 years (so says his neurologist) and the MSM never reported this while he was a fucking heartbeat away from playing with the nuclear football.

Thanks MSM.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (LISuA)

76 What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA



My prediction? PAIN.

Posted by: Mr. T at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (t6MX/)

77 Coalesce around Warren."

You mean like crab dip?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (6qErC)

78 52
That, my friend, looks like the recipe for a brokered convention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba



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Looks like the DNC is looking for their mcCain...a guy that will
lose with dignity. And by dignity, the DNC means poo flinging rage.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (JziUy)
There was poo flinging rage when the Hildebeast lost. Regrettably nobody caught it on tape, or was allowed to release it.Would have loved to have seen her reaction when Trump offered to buy her election night fireworks.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (N39Ws)

79 I'm surprised that Biden still survives each shit considering how much brain mass he must lose in each iteration.

Posted by: ShainS -- in registry of disreputable federal law-abiding commenters at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (SV6NL)

80 ooner or later Al Franken will pounce and seize the nomination.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (2LelM)

Al Franken and John Edwards. The disgraced ticket FTW!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (q1Pj5)

81 The mother freaker should be prequalified for the 25th Amendment just based on the most idiotic statement ever uttered by a national politician.

FDR went on TV to calm the public after the Stock Market crash ( 1929 ) .

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I dunno. I still stand in awe of "I know where the Taliban is. They forced our chopper down in the mountains of Afghanistan at 10,500 feet. Just ask me. I know where they are...."

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (8XRCm)

82 67 Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship "

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but that's not who we are. you are not who we are. your grandparents are not who we are. the founding fathers are not who we are.

we are a nation of people to be named later.

hater.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (JziUy)

83 What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (JziUy)

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Beg Michelle to jump in.


Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2019 01:44 PM (8XRCm)


Oh, that would be epic. That racist, angry pre-op tranny has skin so thin, it's a wonder her veins aren't popping out.

Five minutes into a debate with Tee Donald, she'd be red faced, shaking and howling "FUCK YOU, HONKY!" on national television.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (BmxiN)

84 The MSM doesn't want to publicize what Clarence Thomas thinks of Joe Biden.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (2DOZq)

85 Me no savvy!

See? I speak Chink just like Huntsman.

Posted by: joey biden at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (Dh1wo)

86 Senator Biden is a pleasant, outgoing individual.

I'm not a pheasant, I'm a very smart man.


Let me just say four letters. B-R-A-I-N.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (pw+jk)

87 77 Coalesce around Warren."

You mean like crab dip?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (6qErC)
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More like PowWow

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (G0vdT)

88 let me repeat what I said yesterday: I suspect a lot of Dems think Trump is going to win anyway, so why not play it safe and let Biden have his chance. Like Dole and McCain, it's his turn to be the nominee.
because shirley the Dems don't think Biden can deal with Trump in debates when Trump is out tangling with the mostly hostile reporters a couple of times a week

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (ZqRa6)

89 Witch Williamson will win it.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (sL+r+)

90
Just you wait until the Inslee juggernaut gets rolling!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (Wx/+I)

91 >>Elizabeth Warren is the nominee.


I don't see it. She is shriller than Hillary.

...and if Hillary was the MOST Qualified Person to EVAR Run!

What is Fauxcahontas?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (7JSnm)

92
Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are noncitizens or crossed into the U.S. illegally.

Constitutional scholars differ on whether or not this can be done without amending the constitution.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (aKsyK)

93 Imagine if he actually wins. I would be shitting bricks. The sheer incompetence would invite predation from hostile parties.

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (q177U)

94 Brown: I never observed in him the qualities of intellect, vision, exceptional integrity, or savvy that are required in an effective president. I will be surprised if he survives the primaries.

So you're saying there's been no decline in function in 31 years? Ah-hah!

Posted by: Joey "The Brain" Biden at August 21, 2019 01:50 PM (TQyCa)

95 See? I speak Chink just like Huntsman.
Posted by: joey biden"

Don't you have a 7-11 to check out?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:50 PM (6qErC)

96 @42 artisanal ette'-rumor is his wife said he's not that big.

Posted by: JROD at August 21, 2019 01:50 PM (0pMBV)

97 Chloe Salsameda @ChloeSalsameda
#NEW: Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are noncitizens or crossed into the U.S. illegally.

"You walk over the border, have a baby - congratulations, the baby is now a U.S. citizen.... It's frankly ridiculous."
*********
Willowed
*********
JackStraw mentioned this
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit


We've bitched about that for years.
You shouldn't be able to profit off of someone's criminality.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 01:50 PM (hpmES)

98 Hinka hinka!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 21, 2019 01:50 PM (ClOmq)

99 Hey! There's numbers in my alphabet soup.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 01:50 PM (xoUv9)

100 There was poo flinging rage when the Hildebeast lost. Regrettably nobody caught it on tape, or was allowed to release it.Would have loved to have seen her reaction when Trump offered to buy her election night fireworks.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (N39Ws)

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Anyone who works with the Clintons knows that releasing anything like that would be a coupon redeemable for one broken hyoid bone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 01:50 PM (AzW6q)

101
It's like highlander, whoever knocks biden out gets his energy
Posted by: yankeefifith

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So whoever knocks him out gets a little sleepier.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (13CQC)

102 49
It's like highlander, whoever knocks biden out gets his energy

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (HALdu)

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IOW a net loss.

Posted by: ShainS -- in registry of disreputable federal law-abiding commenters at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (SV6NL)

103
Constitutional scholars

Like the Idiot God?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (Wx/+I)

104 I heard it was you
Talkin' 'bout a world
Where all is free
It just couldn't be
And only a fool would say that

Posted by: Steely Biden at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (flINI)

105 92
Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are noncitizens or crossed into the U.S. illegally.

Constitutional scholars differ on whether or not this can be done without amending the constitution.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (aKsyK)



I give Trump credit for being willing to fight this out in Court, at least.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (ujg0T)

106 never seen Creepy Joe as pleasant. Outgoing? Maybe, but pleasant, no way.
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 01:42 PM (II6Oo)

He strikes me as the kind of guy who's pleasant to your face, but when he's around the boss, says "That guy talks smack about you all the time."

And he gets a little too friendly at the office Christmas parties.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2019 01:47 PM (BmxiN)

He also strikes me as a bully.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (II6Oo)

107 nobody wants any of the democrat's current candidates, especially the democrats.

how bad would the coyote arm remorse be the morning they realized they had just made warren their candidate?

even worse, how far back would that set the eventual election of a woman?

hillary, warren

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (HALdu)

108 Biden is definitely too old for this stuff, and that's not just an overused Hollywood cliche. He is too aged and decrepit to be doing any kind of campaign. Whoever convinced him to run has a lot to answer for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (KZzsI)

109 >>It's like highlander, whoever knocks biden out gets his energy


AND his liver spots.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (7JSnm)

110 The rank and file Dem likes the "idea" of Joe Biden. Once they actually see and hear Joe Biden on the stump, incoherent statements and all, they're going to have a "WTF!" moment.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (G0vdT)

111 Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship "

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but that's not who we are.



It's who I am.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (hpmES)

112 Five minutes into a debate with Tee Donald, she'd be red faced, shaking and howling "FUCK YOU, HONKY!" on national television.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (BmxiN)

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Would be epic wouldnt it??

They'll beg but she'll say no.

Being President is hard work. She is content just being popular.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (8XRCm)

113 Constitutional scholars differ on whether or not this can be done without amending the constitution.

They differ on whether a Republican can do this.

Posted by: t-bird at August 21, 2019 01:51 PM (TQyCa)

114 76
What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.


Posted by: DNC/MEDIA



My prediction? PAIN.


Posted by: Mr. T at August 21, 2019 01:48 PM (t6MX/)
Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design!

Posted by: Devious Hillary Clinton at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (37IEG)

115 91 >>Elizabeth Warren is the nominee.


I don't see it. She is shriller than Hillary.

...and if Hillary was the MOST Qualified Person to EVAR Run!

What is Fauxcahontas?
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (7JSnm)

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The massive field is her friend.

She's got that low level support that's not going away. As the field winnows, she'll become default choice for a bunch of people.

She has this aura of being a wonk and really smart. She's a woman. She's progressive. She seems young (in a similar way that Trump seems young).

Out of the top 4, I think she has the drive and identity box marks checked in just the right way to push through.

I mean, when Harris jumps ship, where are her supporters going to go? Biden? Sanders?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (iikV8)

116 What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (JziUy)

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Beg Michelle to jump in.

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That'll clear out the hot tub.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (sN9mD)

117 Didn't we already have this election?

Deja vu all over again.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (cxIsI)

118 67 Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship "
It's not nice to tease. "

It's written into current US Code. Only Congress can change that, with the President's signature. Trump doesn't have the authority to do anything about it on his own, if he tries it will be tossed by the first Federal Judge that hears it.

I *think* that if the Congress and the President work together to change it, that the SCOTUS will go along, but that's not guaranteed. If SCOTUS disagrees, then it will take a Constitutional Amendment, rewriting the 14th Am.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (Kpl3J)

119 Coalesce around Warren.

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Circle the wagons!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (+y/Ru)

120 Brown: I never observed in him the qualities of intellect, vision, exceptional integrity, or savvy that are required in an effective president. I will be surprised if he survives the primaries.

I have said that Biden has never been that popular with Dems.

He never crested 1% in his previous outings for President.

Sure, he's been VP since, and and for Obama, who remains oddly popular with a party which is busy burying his legacy. But still - Joe Biden.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (9VeU0)

121 What the fuck are the democrats going to do once Biden drops out.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (JziUy)

I have an idea!

Posted by: Mitt Romney, Bipartisan Unity Party Candidate at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (LISuA)

122
We've bitched about that for years.
You shouldn't be able to profit off of someone's criminality.
Posted by: rickb223

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ffs, you walk across the border, throw a bomb at a US military facility, have a baby a month later in prison, the kid's a citizen.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (13CQC)

123 Biden's personal aides are getting close to Strom Thurmond aide territory. They need to get the Christopher Pike wheelchair ready soon.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (0yxK0)

124
The delegates say
"Joey, you've a fine brain"
"What a good President you would be"
"But our life, our love, and our candidate isn't a he"

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (23YGv)

125 Just you wait until the Inslee juggernaut gets rolling!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (Wx/+I)

Of the Innsmouth Inslees?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (a72/q)

126 Biden will have a shit himself moment, much like Hillary and her poo stained pants.

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)

127 92
Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are noncitizens or crossed into the U.S. illegally.

Constitutional scholars differ on whether or not this can be done without amending the constitution.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (aKsyK)

Fine. Propose a Constitutional amendment. Cruz is one who thinks it does. He should be the sponsor.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 21, 2019 01:53 PM (2DOZq)

128 Poor Joe. Maybe we could make him President of Greenland. I hear its beautiful there at least once a year.




Posted by: dananjcon at August 21, 2019 01:53 PM (u6xw0)

129 The support has been for a "woman" candidate for a long time now. And Warren is getting most of the support. Biden is constantly being asked to drop out in so many words.

Let's see them steamroll Bernie again.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:53 PM (vEIlU)

130 Biden is definitely too old for this stuff,

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He's aged like fine milk.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 01:54 PM (+y/Ru)

131 126 Biden will have a shit himself moment, much like Hillary and her poo stained pants.
Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)

==========

"Oo! Where did this chocolate come from?"
-Biden on live television

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:54 PM (iikV8)

132 they're going to push for a female President until they die.

So why not go a combo; have Biden come out and declare he's a woman?

Boom! Done and done. Hey it works for the weight lifters and wrestlers.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 01:54 PM (cxIsI)

133 It's like highlander, whoever knocks biden out gets his energy

Posted by: yankeefifith
>>
Losing proposition, that

Posted by: FrodoB at August 21, 2019 01:54 PM (vNyGK)

134 You shouldn't be able to profit off of someone's criminality.
Posted by: rickb223

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ffs, you walk across the border, throw a bomb at a US military facility, have a baby a month later in prison, the kid's a citizen.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


Your cousin rolls into town after robbing a bank and leaves the money with you. Cops find it. Do you think they are going to let you keep it?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 01:54 PM (hpmES)

135
nobody wants any of the democrat's current candidates, especially the democrats.

And yet we are continuously told that ANY of them would beat Trump.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2019 01:54 PM (aKsyK)

136 if Biden ever has trouble with other world leaders, he could just take them out back behind the schoolhouse and beat them up ... cuz he's just that tuff. nuff said.


"please schedule me with some more photo ops with young girls, I really like those" biden

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2019 01:54 PM (Cus5s)

137 There are only three Democrat candidates polling above a near-flatline, Biden, Sanders and Warren. Joey is out, 'cause he's going to be in assisted living before Thanksgiving, and Sanders is too...Sanders. That leaves Liawatha. She's your opponent.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (LISuA)

138 129 The support has been for a "woman" candidate for a long time now. And Warren is getting most of the support. Biden is constantly being asked to drop out in so many words.

Let's see them steamroll Bernie again.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:53 PM (vEIlU)

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My dream situation:

Bernie walked into the convention with a plurality of delegates.

Second ballot doesn't decide anything.

37th ballot, compromise candidate gets chosen: Hillary Clinton.

Sanders supporters start burning things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (iikV8)

139 This Brown fellow is a national treasure. I read the entire interview, and it is full of gems. I especially like this one:

Brown: Some universities have such a strong reputation that they may be worth $50,000-plus, but those are very few. Many teach students to think of themselves as victims in this world and do more harm than good. Most students would be better off working full-time to gain experience and going to night school to earn a BA.

If more people did that, it would do more to push down the cost of college than almost anything else. There's no way you're majoring in Third-World Wymyn's Pre-Colombian Lesbian hermeneutics if you need a useful degree to climb up to the next rung on the corporate ladder.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (iuFgi)

140 >>>He's waiting for an actual frontrunner with a very clear path to the nomination. Then he'll endorse.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:43 PM (iikV

"The difference this time, is now you have me."

LMAO LOLGF!

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (q177U)

141
I give Trump credit for being willing to fight this out in Court, at least.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

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We've got to start somewhere. The President "considering it" is a definite start.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (13CQC)

142

The RINOs and country club Republicans I know love them some Joey Biden. They will vote for him in a heartbeat because they think he's a moderate and OrangeManBad. The rest of the Dem field scares them because they think they will tax the shit out of them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (mpeBU)

143 I thought we had it on good authority from a brain surgeon that Biden's brain is probably functional. The goalposts keep shifting something fierce.

And I think they're casting a lot of the Biden opposition as age-related (as opposed to doofus-related) because Trump's an old guy, too and they want him to catch cross-fire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (I2dne)

144 69
Al Franken will grab Marianne's or Tulsi's boobs?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (XkX6f)



EMBRACE the power of 'and.'

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019

*
*
. . .
Ome boob in each hand? Or two hands for Marianne, then two hands for Tulsi?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (ClOmq)

145 The Dem polls today, in August, are where they were in April. After 2 rounds of debates.

I mean, I guess Swalwell's mom is voting for someone else now, but that's about it.

The next round of debates will likely move some needles as only half the field will make the cut for the debates.

Where does DeBlasio's voter go?

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (9VeU0)

146 Coalesce around Warren.

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You mean like a yeast infection?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (pw+jk)

147 beep beep
beep beep

Posted by: capt. christopher pike at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (Dh1wo)

148 The only reason Biden is polling so well is that when people are asked who they would vote for, they look at the crop of human detritus, lunatics, radical extremists, and crazies and think "well damn none of those people have a chance against Trump, Biden is the only one who might be able to get at least ONE vote from someone other than the far left"

And that's all he has going for him. He's perceived as less extreme and crazy than the others.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (KZzsI)

149 Joe Biden. He's the new Matt Damon, only older.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (VpIIl)

150 105 92
Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are noncitizens or crossed into the U.S. illegally.
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This is a wonderful subject to entertain a year or so from an election. Blacks may not be aware that the birthright amendment applies only to the children of American slaves. It was never intended to cover any transient birth that happened on US Soil. This could easily be a mother of all wedge issues to play against the Dems.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (2LelM)

151

The obama cabal leaked that they wanted Biden to step down. That was no accident. The rest of the party will follow.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (vEIlU)

152 145 The Dem polls today, in August, are where they were in April. After 2 rounds of debates.

I mean, I guess Swalwell's mom is voting for someone else now, but that's about it.

The next round of debates will likely move some needles as only half the field will make the cut for the debates.

Where does DeBlasio's voter go?
Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (9VeU0)

==========

Perhaps it's some slight indication that most people aren't paying attention or making decisions yet.

Come January, then people will engage, the field will be down to less than 10, and we'll start getting a much clearer view of where things will play out through polls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (iikV8)

153 It's like highlander, whoever knocks biden out gets his energy
Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (HALdu)
++++++++++
Finally, a way forward for me!

Posted by: Jeb! at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (I2dne)

154 Biden will be a full care home Lothario before the next election.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (II6Oo)

155 Warren's charisma power level is zero. point. zero. I just don't see her rolling up support.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (q1Pj5)

156 Elizabeth Warren is the nominee.

I don't see it. She is shriller than Hillary.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (7JSnm)


I can't stop seeing Warren as Marcy Darcy in this clip (at the 0:05 mark):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on_ffL3q91E

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (208R5)

157 . .
Ome boob in each hand? Or two hands for Marianne, then two hands for Tulsi?


Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (ClOmq)
Does no one want to grab my boobs? This is why we have to get rid of the old order, and establish a new one, me, and my squad, and my bouncy jugs.

Posted by: Oscazio Consquestidorio at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (37IEG)

158 The only reason Biden is polling so well is that when people are asked who they would vote for, they look at the crop of human detritus, lunatics, radical extremists, and crazies and think "well damn none of those people have a chance against Trump, Biden is the only one who might be able to get at least ONE vote from someone other than the far left"

And that's all he has going for him. He's perceived as less extreme and crazy than the others.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (KZzsI)



they recognize his name
that is all

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (vEIlU)

159 I didn't think Democrats could find a worse candidate than Hillary.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (VpIIl)

160 Poor gropey Joe. His karmic retribution is utter humiliation in front of the world.

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (yOykd)

161 Joey The Brain has always had a creepy smile, and the fact he likes to swim naked in front of his female SS agents is beyond creepy.

And let's not forget the hair-sniffing and grabbing of little girls and other men's wives.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (ptqGC)

162 One way of removing the trauma of having a Hussein serve in the White House is to let a Robinette in.

But there are better alternatives.

Posted by: DanMan at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (XTiHL)

163 The obama cabal leaked that they wanted Biden to step down. That was no accident. The rest of the party will follow.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (vEIlU)



But but but what about the charm bracelet he and his besty made?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (mpeBU)

164 Biden is going to reestablish good relations with the UK. He's good friends with Margaret Thatcher.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (9VeU0)

165 149
Joe Biden. He's the new Matt Damon, only older.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (VpIIl)
Joe Biden! Joe Biden!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (37IEG)

166
Your cousin rolls into town after robbing a bank and leaves the money with you. Cops find it. Do you think they are going to let you keep it?

Posted by: rickb223

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Somehow, the concept of "sanctuary city" evaporates right about there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (13CQC)

167 MSM: Quick, we need another story about how Trump's "limited vocabulary" is a sign that he's senile #25A

I don't see how Biden gets through the primaries (much less the general election) without shitting himself on stage. I don't think he'll be the nominee - if he is it's a sign either that the "Professionals" are still running the DNC which is going to piss-off the kids, or it's a sign the "Kids" are running the DNC and know they can't beat Trump but want to make sure they completely dispossess the "Professionals".

Posted by: DocJ at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (DU2N9)

168 What's this talk about my brain? Let me tell you, my brain is fine.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (CPk08)

169 Where does DeBlasio's voter go?
Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (9VeU0)

New Jersey?

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (0yxK0)

170 125 Just you wait until the Inslee juggernaut gets rolling!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 21, 2019 01:49 PM (Wx/+I)

Of the Innsmouth Inslees?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2019 01:52 PM (a72/q)

They've gotta a certain LOOK about them.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (RD7QR)

171 155 Warren's charisma power level is zero. point. zero. I just don't see her rolling up support.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (q1Pj5)


AND ... she's a chicken!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (208R5)

172 I read that as Hank Johnson...

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (5l6gb)

173 Joe Biden. He's the new Matt Damon, only older.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (VpIIl)


JOE BIDEN!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)

174

Emily Compagno was an NFL cheerleader... Faulkner just said.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (vEIlU)

175 146
Coalesce around Warren.

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You mean like a yeast infection?


Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 21, 2019 01:56 PM (pw+jk)

*shudders*

Posted by: Mr. T at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (t6MX/)

176 Hey, can Ben Carson comment on the state of Biden's Brain?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (iuFgi)

177 Al Franken will grab Marianne's or Tulsi's boobs?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 21, 2019 01:46 PM (XkX6f)

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You know, I've been curious about Franken.

We know from extensive and bitter experience that Democrats NEVER resign, even when caught dead-to-rights.

It makes think ol' Al might have some truly horrible skeleton in his closet.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (AzW6q)

178 151

The obama cabal leaked that they wanted Biden to step down. That was no accident. The rest of the party will follow.
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Not really. Obama stinks on ice with Dems presently. Read the poll, the party seems to be made up of four or five segments that can't agree on anything. Basically a ghetto standoff.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (2LelM)

179

Compagno is absolutely adorable.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (vEIlU)

180 Warren's charisma power level is zero. point. zero. I just don't see her rolling up support.


Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (q1Pj5)


Vote for Warren! She's as warm and charismatic as your ex-MiL!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (ptqGC)

181 So just to reiterate where Birthright Citizenship comes from: The 14th Amendment says that "Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "

Current US Code and judicial precedent define "persons" as "all human beings", period. Origin or status is irrelevant.
Current US COde and judicial precedent define "Under the Jurisdiction of" as being anyone who is subject to arrest by any officer of the law in this country. Embassy staff who have diplomatic immunity are about the only persons who fit this category.

So those are the things that have to be changed if you want to change the practice. Or just amend the 14th amendment to read differently than it does.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (Kpl3J)

182 137 There are only three Democrat candidates polling above a near-flatline, Biden, Sanders and Warren. Joey is out, 'cause he's going to be in assisted living before Thanksgiving, and Sanders is too...Sanders. That leaves Liawatha. She's your opponent.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (LISuA)
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The party elders still hate Sanders for being allowed to run in the Democrat primary and damaged Hillary last time around. They are not going to allow him to get the nomination if it goes beyond the first ballot at the DNC.

So either they're going to drag sleepy Joe across the finish line or its Squats with Unions.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (G0vdT)

183 Trump doesn't have the authority to do anything about it on his own,"

"I've got a pen. And a phone"

/yeah, I know, I know..

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (6qErC)

184
There's no way you're majoring in Third-World Wymyn's Pre-Colombian Lesbian hermeneutics if you need a useful degree to climb up to the next rung on the corporate ladder.
Posted by: Darrell Harris


You could probably become a CEO in today's corporate climate.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (aKsyK)

185 Variety@Variety
Variety to Forgo Annual Emmy Party for Donation to Planned Parenthood

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OMG! How will we survive?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (+y/Ru)

186 Somebody stole my hair.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (xoUv9)

187 Ome boob in each hand?
>>
One boob to rule them all, one boob to to find them,One boob to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
That's 4

Posted by: FrodoB at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (vNyGK)

188 185 Variety@Variety
Variety to Forgo Annual Emmy Party for Donation to Planned Parenthood

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OMG! How will we survive?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (+y/Ru)

=========

That is not going to come anywhere close to making up the funds the PP voluntarily gave up by leaving Title X.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (iikV8)

189 My concern now is that Biden is imploding too soon.. that he will be toast very soon and that will encourage a stronger Democrat to get into the race.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (Xqo6t)

190 Perhaps it's some slight indication that most people aren't paying attention or making decisions yet.

Come January, then people will engage, the field will be down to less than 10, and we'll start getting a much clearer view of where things will play out through polls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:57 PM (iikV


Yeah I think that was my point. I mean, first of all, all polls are crap.

But second, the Democrat electorate has yet to actually give a shit about the primary even.

If you don't care, sure, Biden, why not.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (9VeU0)

191 Draw a line from Washington, DC to Boston. Everyone who supports Warren lives within 50 miles of that line.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)

192
I didn't think Democrats could find a worse candidate than Hillary.
Posted by: Marcus T

======

Honestly, look at their party. Then imagine their choices -- for a long time to come. Obama killed that party at the local and state level and the Red Guard is taking over. The candidates are going to get worse and worse over the next how many generations?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (13CQC)

193 Bloomberg has a story up saying Twitter is directly working with the Chinese government on legitimizing propaganda.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (LISuA)

194 I can't wait to see the first debate between Trump and Biden. Trump puts in the first row all the little girls that Gropey has perved on.

If Biden still is aware of his surroundings he will be worse than BJ rapist Clinton.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (pw+jk)

195 >>that will encourage a stronger Democrat to get into the race.


Like whom?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (7JSnm)

196 Creepy Joe will soon be creeping on the nurses and female residents of a seniors.
He'll think they're impressed by his expensive but instead they'll be repulsed by the shit filling his expensive trousers-even if they have a nice crease.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (II6Oo)

197 Poor Joe. Maybe we could make him President of Greenland. I hear its beautiful there at least once a year.

Posted by: dananjcon

I love how The NY Times pretends it doesn't know or understand why Trump suggested something "crazy" like buying Greenland. They know good and well we pressured the Danes to kick the ChiComs out of financing and building their airport. Part of that was begin negotiating what to do about the fools in Nuuk, perhaps buying the island that has been nothing but a money sump for the Danes. But when that got leaked, and Trump admitted we were considering it, the Dames freaked and began pretending they were surprised and "flabbergasted" Now the whole things off for now - and the Danes are left still wondering what to about the Nanuuks from the north.

Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (32YRo)

198 I think the only reason Biden has done well enough this far is that he is the only one of the Dem candidates with any charisma at all. Look at them. The women are a bunch of shrews, for the most part, and the men are a collection of oddballs.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (ClLOy)

199 The MSM doesn't want to publicize what Clarence Thomas thinks of Joe Biden.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions

You read his book, too, I see.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (FTlwv)

200 there any Minnesota Wild Hockey Fans here ?? they just hired Bill Guerin Asst. GM of Penguins

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (BqBId)

201 41 Elizabeth Warren is the nominee. Yeah, it shocked me too when I realized it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (LISuA)

I'm inclined to agree. The media wants it really, really bad and they know Choo Choo is not going anywhere.
Can't think of a single state she wins that Felonious didn't, however.

Posted by: DocJ at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (DU2N9)

202 That Biden could survive the primaries is an indictment of the quality of his competition.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Official Distributor for the Old Appalachian Wrath Shop at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (hLRSq)

203 I solemnly promise to stop as much racism as I possibly can. The darkies have had it hard enough.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (xoUv9)

204 >>Draw a line from Washington, DC to Boston. Everyone who supports Warren lives within 50 miles of that line.


She is a darling in places like Austin and most University Towns.

The lesbian Humanities Professors love her.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (7JSnm)

205 It makes think ol' Al might have some truly horrible skeleton in his closet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 01:59 PM (AzW6q)

Those tapes of him pretending to be funny back in his SNL days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (Kpl3J)

206 Re birthright citizenship - to which I am mortally opposed - I suspect Trump is just being Trump again, flashing the laser pointer around the wall to watch the Reds jump at it.

But having done so, he's putting the issue on the table, with the connivance of the Reds screeching about it to the skies, which I expect we'll see very soon.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (208R5)

207 The only thing Warren can run on is Policy. Personna and personal story are shot. Today's Dems don't do policy. They do skin color, sex and sexual persuasion. No one wants to think about sex and Warren. So policy ad nauseum. This will not excite the black vote.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (2LelM)

208 >>Emily Compagno was an NFL cheerleader... Faulkner just said.

Da Raidahs.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (ZLI7S)

209 But Biden beats Trump in every poll!! Haters!!

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (VpIIl)

210 182 137 There are only three Democrat candidates polling above a near-flatline, Biden, Sanders and Warren. Joey is out, 'cause he's going to be in assisted living before Thanksgiving, and Sanders is too...Sanders. That leaves Liawatha. She's your opponent.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (LISuA)


Depends what you mean by flatline.

3 candidates in double digits - you have named them.

In a field of 23ish, I think 5% is probably the minimally viable line. That adds Harris and Buttigieg.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (9VeU0)

211
My concern now is that Biden is imploding too soon.. that he will be toast very soon and that will encourage a stronger Democrat to get into the race.
Posted by: Serious Cat

======

Who would that be? I can only imagine some White Savior like Oprah Winfrey.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (13CQC)

212 195
>>that will encourage a stronger Democrat to get into the race.





Like whom?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (7JSnm)

JFK

Posted by: Biden at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (t6MX/)

213 That's 4>>Three

Posted by: FrodoBiden at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (vNyGK)

214 Constitutional scholars differ on whether or not this can be done without amending the constitution.

----

then the consitution is stupid.

it...birth right citizenship...AFAIK is based on a footnote in a supreme court case, dicta.

It has to end. Its' fucking insane to have.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (JziUy)

215 you know we should swap puerto rico for greenland

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (HALdu)

216 Is it too late to sober up Hillary?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (VpIIl)

217 >>Look at them. The women are a bunch of shrews, for the most part, and the men are a collection of oddballs.


Fiercely Heterosexual Oddballs, thank you very much.

Posted by: Cory Booker at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (7JSnm)

218 195 >>that will encourage a stronger Democrat to get into the race.


Like whom?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (7JSnm)


That person better get in now because of the fundraising.*


*And no, I am not buying the "parachutes [fill in name] at the convention as the savior" scenarios because that seems more outlandish than a Trump candidacy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Official Distributor for the Old Appalachian Wrath Shop at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (hLRSq)

219 Rested, angry, and ready.

Posted by: Gov. Tank Abrams at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (ptqGC)

220 maybe this 2020 election is like 1996 where it didn't really matter who the GOP put up against Bill.

oh wait, fucking Perot.

we coulda won 1992 1996 if the Bush crime family had made nice with him.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (JziUy)

221 Fiercely Heterosexual Oddballs, thank you very much.
Posted by: Cory Booker at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (7JSnm)
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Not all of them.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (ClLOy)

222 195 >>that will encourage a stronger Democrat to get into the race.


Like whom?
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (7JSnm)

=========

I've really been wondering about this. Tom Steyer could have been it, but he's flatlined.

Maybe Clooney, if he decides to jump in, but his appeal will be limited.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (iikV8)

223 I have a lot of Jewish friends. I don't really understand the whole matzoh thing either, but that's no reason to kill them all. Come on!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (xoUv9)

224 I don't think you get it. They think Biden is getting stronger.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (VpIIl)

225 A better line would be one drawn on the AmTrak tracks or at least on dry land.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (cxIsI)

226 Well it is clear that Harris is going down...

Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (dKm4U)

227 41 Elizabeth Warren is the nominee. Yeah, it shocked me too when I realized it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 01:45 PM (LISuA)

I'm inclined to agree. The media wants it really, really bad and they know Choo Choo is not going anywhere.
Can't think of a single state she wins that Felonious didn't, however.
Posted by: DocJ at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (DU2N9)


I dunno. I still think the DNC wants to win back the white male blue collar voters from the erstwhile "blue wall," and I just don't see any of other potential nominees having any shot at that.

Is Joe Sixpak going to plump for Warren? For Sanders? For Harris? Hard to imagine.

Impossible to imagine for any of the others.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (208R5)

228 What happened to the Starbucks guys candidacy.

Remember how he was going to be the liberal Trump?

We got him now!

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (9VeU0)

229 I can't think of a single Dem Politician that would be able to rally support?

They took a 6 year run at building the Obama Mythos...

AOC is still 5 years out.


Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (7JSnm)

230
My concern now is that Biden is imploding too soon.. that he will be toast very soon and that will encourage a stronger Democrat to get into the race.
Posted by: Serious Cat

======

Who would that be? I can only imagine some White Savior like Oprah Winfrey.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM

Ed Rendell

Posted by: Jean at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (yIJFm)

231 The dims are fucked going into this election unless the dim candidate has not shown xirself yet. Warren, Joey plugs and sanders are not even close to beating Trump.

Where is the dim candidate? That is the $1000 question.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (0OmEj)

232 So my question to you is simple. Do you like pussy or dick?


Posted by: Don Lemon at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (pw+jk)

233 it...birth right citizenship...AFAIK is based on a footnote in a supreme court case, dicta.

It has to end. Its' fucking insane to have.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (JziUy)

It's actually based on a plain language reading of the first line of the 14th amendment, as I posted above. "Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "

and read that post before starting in on the "jurisdiction" clause. I don't want to have to write it again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (Kpl3J)

234 President Joe Biden is a horrifying thought but it would be interesting to see him challenge Putin to a fistfight.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (II6Oo)

235 Well it is clear that Harris is going down...


Posted by: Timon

>>
Some things never change..

Posted by: FrodoB at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (vNyGK)

236 Honestly, look at their party. Then imagine their choices -- for a long time to come. Obama killed that party at the local and state level and the Red Guard is taking over. The candidates are going to get worse and worse over the next how many generations?
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Yep. That's what I see, too.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (2LelM)

237 Worst. Episode. Ever.

https://bit.ly/2KNvmbV

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (+y/Ru)

238
The lesbian Humanities Professors love her.
Posted by: garrett


Oh the lesbian humanities!

Posted by: Herb Morrison at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (aKsyK)

239 Those Democrats who aren't ready to go full-on fascist are going to get a chance to vote for Mitt, I believe. Because he looks to me like a Democrat-In-The-Making. And ending birthright citizenship could make Utah a blue state, so his new Party membership will be very conveniently timed.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (LISuA)

240
They think Biden is getting stronger.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (VpIIl)

-------

.... and Leon is getting Laaaaaarrrrrrger.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (8XRCm)

241 Well it is clear that Harris is going down...
Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (dKm4U)
+++++++++++++
Long, rich history of the same. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Willie Brown at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (I2dne)

242 I don't think you get it. They think Biden is getting stronger.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (VpIIl)


Yeah, his staff has him using one of Barry's old teleprompters to lessen the probability of him remembering when he was VP to Woodrow Wilson.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (ptqGC)

243 Creepy Joe will soon be creeping on the nurses and female residents of a seniors.

He'll think they're impressed by his expensive but instead they'll
be repulsed by the shit filling his expensive trousers-even if they have
a nice crease.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (II6Oo)

Del Boca Vista or The Villages?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (q1Pj5)

244 So I was staring at a door this morning, and ummmmm, what was I saying?

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (xoUv9)

245 I've really been wondering about this. Tom Steyer could have been it, but he's flatlined.

Maybe Clooney, if he decides to jump in, but his appeal will be limited.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (iikV


Two non-starters. Steyer is already on milk cartons.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (208R5)

246 []I love how The NY Times pretends it doesn't know or understand why Trump suggested something "crazy" like buying Greenland. They know good and well we pressured the Danes to kick the ChiComs out of financing and building their airport. Part of that was begin negotiating what to do about the fools in Nuuk, perhaps buying the island that has been nothing but a money sump for the Danes. But when that got leaked, and Trump admitted we were considering it, the Dames freaked and began pretending they were surprised and "flabbergasted" Now the whole things off for now - and the Danes are left still wondering what to about the Nanuuks from the north.
Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (32YRo)

I love how Trump said, the canceled trip will save us money. haha

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (vEIlU)

247
The candidates are going to get worse and worse over the next how many generations?

------

Unfortunately.... so are their voters.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2019 02:07 PM (8XRCm)

248 >>and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "


So. Persons born into 'sanctuary cities' should not count.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:07 PM (7JSnm)

249 Well it is clear that Harris is going down...


Posted by: Timon

>>
Some things never change..
Posted by: FrodoB at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (vNyGK)

She's gone down on a lot of poles.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:07 PM (II6Oo)

250 The lesbian Humanities Professors love her.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:02 PM (7JSnm)

How about those Crocs-loving audiophiles in the Northern Plains?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2019 02:07 PM (wYseH)

251 I dunno. I still think the DNC wants to win back the
white male blue collar voters from the erstwhile "blue wall," and I
just don't see any of other potential nominees having any shot at that.



Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (208R5)


I agree - they want to win back the white male blue collar voters, and Gropey is the only candidate in the field with any chance of that happening - until he shits himself on stage. The calculation is that Warren is the next sane(r) choice because Bernie is, well, Bernie.

Posted by: DocJ at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (DU2N9)

252 She's gone down on a lot of poles.
>>
They should ask for reparations...

Posted by: FrodoB at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (vNyGK)

253 Wondering if they had hoped to get Biden through the primaries so that he could be paired up with one of the "first" candidates a s VP (first woman, first gay, first Indian/Hindu), and then as a team get elected knowing the VP would soon be at the helm.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (bDqIh)

254 Trump will club Fast Eddie like a baby seal.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (nE3y+)

255 Where is the dim candidate? That is the $1000 question.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (0OmEj)


Our true enemy had yet to reveal himself.

Posted by: Silvio Dante at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (q1Pj5)

256 the thing is, the 14th amendment can't be read cut up into separate pieces, the first part of the sentence is informed by the second part..."and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

subject to the jurisdiciton thereof.

born and subject to jurisdiction of the US.

meaning, the children of citizens.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (JziUy)

257 I dunno. I still think the DNC wants to win back the white male blue collar voters from the erstwhile "blue wall," and I just don't see any of other potential nominees having any shot at that.
...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (208R5)
++++++++++++
So this is a serious question.

I am pretty tuned in politically and have been for a goodly while. The first I heard of the "blue wall" was through nervously babbling lips of news talkers on election night. Was this a regionalism I just never encountered or did they make it up then report using the term or did I somehow miss it along the way?

Posted by: Willie Brown at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (I2dne)

258 Harris is going to be the Scott Walker of the Democrat Primary. Looked great on paper, folded like a cheap lawn chair as soon as the actual race began.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (Kpl3J)

259 Well it is clear that Harris is going down...





Posted by: Timon



>>

Some things never change..

Posted by: FrodoB at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (vNyGK)



She's gone down on a lot of poles.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:07 PM (II6Oo
===
Go ON!!!

Posted by: Shep Smith at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (pw+jk)

260 Folks, I mean man, you got ta listen to me. Fact: there are precisely 62,984,828 active white supremacists in the US (some of which, are not even white)

Guys, we go ta win this! I. Am. Your. ONLY. hope! Bam! It's that simple

Posted by: Joe the Scranton "kid" Biden at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (nUO1n)

261 If Biden gets out, don't look at me.

Posted by: William Tecumseh Sherman at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (FTlwv)

262 GAH! Off Willie Brown sock

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (I2dne)

263 >>>Anyone who works with the Clintons knows that releasing anything like that would be a coupon redeemable for one broken hyoid bone.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 01:50 PM (AzW6q)


Dude, you're always funny, but that's some next level shit right there. Ace's top shelf reserve.

*starts the slow clap*

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (q177U)

264 Ed Rendell
Posted by: Jean at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (yIJFm)


Everyone loves Fast Eddie. I bet there are at least fifty women in Philadelphia who could especially tell you what it's like to love him. Of course, that's no bar to running but I think he doesn't want his life paraded on TV every night. He's too rational.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (LISuA)

265 Steyer is too busy meddling in nc politics right now. And btw Roy cooper can eat an illegal bag of dicks

Posted by: NCKate at August 21, 2019 02:09 PM (lknvV)

266 someone made a good point above, the DNC kicked out the starbucks guy.

no moderates allowed.

so...there are no moderates.

a bold gamble.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:09 PM (JziUy)

267 236 Honestly, look at their party. Then imagine their choices -- for a long time to come. Obama killed that party at the local and state level and the Red Guard is taking over. The candidates are going to get worse and worse over the next how many generations?
-------------------
Yep. That's what I see, too.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (2LelM)


I suspect you're both right. The Reds' problem is that they live in a Red bubble, and don't realize how they come across to normal people. Largely because they're not around any.

This is commonplace in Berkeley, where Reds talk in that peculiarly stilted Communist patois, and think that they're convincing anyone who didn't previously subscribe to their views.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:09 PM (208R5)

268 *And no, I am not buying the "parachutes [fill in
name] at the convention as the savior" scenarios because that seems more
outlandish than a Trump candidacy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Official Distributor for the
Old Appalachian Wrath Shop at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (hLRSq)

Yeah, that is as outlandish and laughable as theories about Trump being a stalking horse to ensure a hillary presidency.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2019 02:09 PM (t6MX/)

269 subject to the jurisdiciton thereof.

born and subject to jurisdiction of the US.

meaning, the children of citizens.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (JziUy)

The children of all subjects. Remember in this era citizens were generally a sub-category of subjects.

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:10 PM (yOykd)

270 >> I dunno. I still think the DNC wants to win back the white male blue collar voters from the erstwhile "blue wall,"


I really don't think so.
They wrote off white men in 2016, and then when women in 2018. Now Perez is down in freakin' Mexico getting donations. They are DONE with whites, just ask the squad.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2019 02:10 PM (bDqIh)

271 AOC is still 5 years out.


Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:05 PM (7JSnm)


AOC declares the Electoral College to be a 'scam' that perpetuates 'racial injustice' (but she's cool with mocking middle America) [video]

twitchy

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 02:10 PM (vEIlU)

272 Shocking! Hillary tells the truth!

https://bit.ly/2Z8FAfM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 02:10 PM (+y/Ru)

273 >>This is commonplace in Berkeley


CBD's alma mater!

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:10 PM (7JSnm)

274 President Joe Biden would threaten to punch other world leaders.
President Kamala Harris would offer blue jobs all around.
President Fauxcahontas would scold them to the point of suicide.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:10 PM (II6Oo)

275 DNC thinking is that Biden is a moderate. The older Dems will be nostalgic and vote for him. They figure some of the older independents and BLue Collar voters will be nostalgic and snookered into thinking he's a moderate guy "like one of them" also. Lastly, they believe the younger new guard socialists will vote for him because- who else will they vote for?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 02:10 PM (VpIIl)

276 Brown: I never observed in him the qualities of intellect, vision, exceptional integrity, or savvy that are required in an effective president. I will be surprised if he survives the primaries indictments of his drug addict son.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2019 02:11 PM (y7DUB)

277 maybe it's best for the country for Biden to do his best Bob Dole act.

Warren, booker, buttplug, the snitch, and the rest of the et cetera club are just embarrassing.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:11 PM (JziUy)

278 I figured the Dems would eventually go with Kamala.

Though it could happen, it seems far less likely than it did a couple of months ago.

Which makes me sad, because I was looking forward to the five-alarm media inferno when Trump said something like "The only reason you're even on this debate stage is because of what you did for Willie Brown."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 02:11 PM (AzW6q)

279 233...

Everyone, even dumb-as-door nails attorneys, realize that the 14th Amendment was written and adopted to protect ONE class of American citizens; the children of recently freed slaves. Any argument to the contrary amounts to nothing more than putrid legal posturing aimed at destroying our national sovereignty.

Posted by: WVinMN at August 21, 2019 02:11 PM (BFfPN)

280
It's actually based on a plain language reading of the first line of the 14th amendment, as I posted above. "Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "

Posted by: Tom Servo

=====

The simple trick, I hear, is to change "persons" to "citizens."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:11 PM (13CQC)

281 Draw a line from Washington, DC to Boston. Everyone who supports Warren lives within 50 miles of that line.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)

________

Wait... what?

Posted by: Coastal CA,OR,WA at August 21, 2019 02:12 PM (flINI)

282 Warren's charisma power level is zero. point. zero. I just don't see her rolling up support.

Yeah but look at Bob freaking Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. You can be completely devoid of personality and yet somehow get the nomination. Even George Bush was kinda bland

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:12 PM (KZzsI)

283 Doocy the younger was on Fox this am describing being asked a question by Biden in Iowa yesterday.After Biden stayed to the little group he was speaking to that nobody was drawing bigger crowds than he in Iowa he turned to Doocy and asked if anyone was drawing bigger crowds? Doocy said yes LoL. Biden was pissed and asked who Doocy said Warren in Des Moines. Biden went off on Doocy accusing him of going after him because Fox .

Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2019 02:12 PM (6rjhq)

284 That's 4>>Three


Posted by: FrodoBiden at August 21, 2019 02:03 PM (vNyGK)

I see FOUR boobs!

Posted by: Captain Jean-Luc Picard at August 21, 2019 02:13 PM (q1Pj5)

285 >>The simple trick, I hear, is to change "persons" to "citizens."


Which is EXACTLY what they meant.

Personage was preferable to citizenship as it retains the notion of the individual as supreme to the state.

Likely the only reason it was used, imo.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:13 PM (7JSnm)

286 and read that post before starting in on the "jurisdiction" clause. I don't want to have to write it again."

Yet the jurisdiction clause held for decades. Why not again?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 02:13 PM (6qErC)

287 258 Harris is going to be the Scott Walker of the Democrat Primary. Looked great on paper, folded like a cheap lawn chair as soon as the actual race began.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (Kpl3J)


Agreed. She comes across as emitting gigawatts of a concentrated, collimated, polarized bitch ray. Gabbard just administered the coup de grace in the debate.

The karmic thing: Harris blue-screened from that attack because she's always been untouchable owing to her race and sex, and came to feel entitled. She never learned how to take a punch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:13 PM (208R5)

288 256
the thing is, the 14th amendment can't be read cut up into separate
pieces, the first part of the sentence is informed by the second
part..."and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the
United States and of the State wherein they reside."



subject to the jurisdiciton thereof.



born and subject to jurisdiction of the US.



meaning, the children of citizens.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (JziUy)

Make them citizens and, viola! They are subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2019 02:13 PM (t6MX/)

289 I love how Trump said, the canceled trip will save us money. haha

Posted by: artisanal 'ette

Everyone knows the whole purpose of stooping by Denmark was to ramp up discussions about Greenland, discussions that are in Denmark's best interests, and they know it. So, when that idiot PM of theirs pretended for the press that Trump was being just "absurd" - he called it off. And that hurt them badly, they probably shit privately into their Danish Depends.

Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2019 02:13 PM (32YRo)

290 287 258 Harris is going to be the Scott Walker of the Democrat Primary. Looked great on paper, folded like a cheap lawn chair as soon as the actual race began.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (Kpl3J)

Agreed. She comes across as emitting gigawatts of a concentrated, collimated, polarized bitch ray. Gabbard just administered the coup de grace in the debate.

The karmic thing: Harris blue-screened from that attack because she's always been untouchable owing to her race and sex, and came to feel entitled. She never learned how to take a punch.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:13 PM (208R5)

========

I remember Scott Walker's throne of skulls.

I miss Scott Walker's throne of skulls.

I'll deal with Trump's throne of skulls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:14 PM (iikV8)

291 President Kamala Harris would offer blue jobs all around.

what are these "blue jobs" you speak of?

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:15 PM (FZYNt)

292 Sanders supporters start burning things.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM


Doobies?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 21, 2019 02:15 PM (23YGv)

293
The simple trick, I hear, is to change "persons" to "citizens."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:11 PM (13CQC)

I think the more straightforward and consistent change is to remove "jursidiction of", so that it would clearly mean subjects. So children of non citizen permanent residents would be citizens.

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:15 PM (yOykd)

294 President Kamala Harris would offer blue jobs all around.

what are these "blue jobs" you speak of?
Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:15 PM (FZYNt)

Drat you auto cucumber.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:15 PM (II6Oo)

295 CBD's alma mater!

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:10 PM (7JSnm)

Sometimes I wonder how I survived Berkeley. Not the school...the city.

Now of course the transformation of UC Berkeley is complete, and it is indistinguishable from the insanity that the city of Berkeley is, and has been for 50 years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2019 02:15 PM (wYseH)

296 279 233...

Everyone, even dumb-as-door nails attorneys, realize that the 14th Amendment was written and adopted to protect ONE class of American citizens; the children of recently freed slaves. Any argument to the contrary amounts to nothing more than putrid legal posturing aimed at destroying our national sovereignty.

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yeah, I'm sure the people of 1860's were writing the 14th amendment as a surrender to the world, an end to the nation so that any foreigner, in any numbers, can come here and get to vote if they spit out a kid.

Or ... in the time of Manifest Destiny, it was for Americans as they filled the west and the free slaves

but the same crowd thinks a poem written about the freed slaves yearning to be free was meant to be some sort ode to endless immigration.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:15 PM (JziUy)

297 And they wandered in
From the city of St John without a dime

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2019 02:16 PM (ZLI7S)

298 what are these "blue jobs" you speak of?

====

Flutters on porn sets

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 02:16 PM (LISuA)

299 Biden isn't going to be the Democratic nominee.

I don't think it will be a woman either.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 21, 2019 02:16 PM (ltuaO)

300 subject to the jurisdiciton thereof.

born and subject to jurisdiction of the US.

meaning, the children of citizens.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:08 PM (JziUy)

You can't make up your own meanings for these things - they're defined by current US Code, as well as by well over a century of Supreme Court rulings. "Under the Jurisdiction of" is defined by US Courts as anyone who is subject to arrest by any law enforcement officer at any level in the US. Only Embassy Staff with diplomatic immunity are exempt now.

Here is how it is written into current US Code:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
(check out subheading (f)

I actually do think that Congress and the President together could change that. The President can't do anything about it on his own, though.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:16 PM (Kpl3J)

301 do blue jobs involve swallowing?

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:16 PM (FZYNt)

302 Doocy the younger was on Fox this am describing being asked a question by Biden in Iowa yesterday.After Biden stayed to the little group he was speaking to that nobody was drawing bigger crowds than he in Iowa he turned to Doocy and asked if anyone was drawing bigger crowds? Doocy said yes LoL. Biden was pissed and asked who Doocy said Warren in Des Moines. Biden went off on Doocy accusing him of going after him because Fox .
Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2019 02:12 PM (6rjhq)


Yep. Biden is a bully. He continue to attack people off camera. This will be one of the nails in his coffin. The child touching, hair sniffing brain damaged plagiarist will be shown to be a bully as well.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2019 02:16 PM (vEIlU)

303 really I am now very personally invested in buying greenland, I want it and I am willing to pay for it, bigly.

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (HALdu)

304 Flutters on porn sets
===


that was "Fluffers" but auto correct thought it needed editing. Fuck you Tim Cook.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (LISuA)

305 some folks are upset about trump cancelling the trip to denmark. they apparently love him there.

but...the media covered this idiotic greenland story with a bunch of danes saying "fuck you trump" so he cancelled.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (JziUy)

306 For those who need to get caught up on why Greenland was even in play, this is a good primer:

http://www.cryopolitics.com/2018/09/12/controversy-greenland-airports/

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (iuFgi)

307 >>And that hurt them badly, they probably shit privately into their Danish Depends.

Did they not watch how Trump handed Canada's a$$ to them after playing games with a trade agreement?

Christia Freeland and Trudeau were so cocky and then . . disaster and international humiliation.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (bDqIh)

308 It's the Democrats agenda that polls lower than the clap. What they stand for is an anathema to a majority of Americans. On almost every single issue they promote negative liberty for the citizens and big government, globalist takeovers. Health care, taxes, the Second Amendment, the environment, abortion, etc.

They figure Biden would be a good fig leaf for what they want and put a happy face on the turd.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (VpIIl)

309 I remember Scott Walker's throne of skulls.

I miss Scott Walker's throne of skulls.

I'll deal with Trump's throne of skulls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:14 PM (iikV
+++++++++++
What about a throne of blood?
https://youtu.be/GP2JPwbtq0g?t=24

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (I2dne)

310 277 maybe it's best for the country for Biden to do his best Bob Dole act.

Warren, booker, buttplug, the snitch, and the rest of the et cetera club are just embarrassing.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:11 PM (JziUy)


I think that may well be what the DNC is thinking: let's write off this election and let Tex Cobb take the beating.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (208R5)

311 You can't make up your own meanings for these things - they're defined by current US Code, as well as by well over a century of Supreme Court rulings. "Under the Jurisdiction of" is defined by US Courts as anyone who is subject to arrest by any law enforcement officer at any level in the US. Only Embassy Staff with diplomatic immunity are exempt now.

----

ugh, well, that's stupid.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (JziUy)

312 Even George Bush was kinda bland
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:12 PM (KZzsI)


I'm still trying to figure out if his "regular guy" schtick was a con or what. He comes from a family of blue blooded back stabbers but he's kept his yap zipped since leaving office. Plus he loved his dogs. So I'm torn...

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2019 02:18 PM (y7DUB)

313 that was "Fluffers" but auto correct thought it needed editing. Fuck you Tim Cook.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (LISuA)

Auto correct is doing what Fenelonspoke used to do. I say with respect.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:18 PM (II6Oo)

314 Now the whole things off for now - and the Danes are left still wondering what to about the Nanuuks from the north.



Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (32YRo)
*They'll be back overpriced chocolates and salted fish snacks in hand. Trump knows this.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 21, 2019 02:18 PM (u6xw0)

315 Brown: Some universities have such a strong reputation that they may be worth $50,000-plus, but those are very few. Many teach students to think of themselves as victims in this world and do more harm than good. Most students would be better off working full-time to gain experience and going to night school to earn a BA.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 01:55 PM (iuFgi)

-----------------

Great point. Reminds me of a couple years ago when a guy on my alma mater's b-ball team was constantly praised by the media for being a good student who takes school seriously. His favorite class was "Politics of Whiteness." Would've been much better off only going there for b-ball.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at August 21, 2019 02:18 PM (N4xQB)

316 If we're going to have a territorial instead of subject based legal system, it should be all the way. Like no taxing of income earned working overseas or requiring them to adhere to US law there.

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:18 PM (yOykd)

317 281 Draw a line from Washington, DC to Boston. Everyone who supports Warren lives within 50 miles of that line.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)

________

Wait... what?
Posted by: Coastal CA,OR,WA at August 21, 2019 02:12 PM (flINI)

___

Uhm hello?

Downtown Atlanta, Austin, Denver, Boise and every college town in America.

Posted by: Downtown Atlanta, Austin, Denver at August 21, 2019 02:18 PM (FiUMj)

318 yeah, I'm sure the people of 1860's were writing the 14th amendment as a surrender to the world, an end to the nation so that any foreigner, in any numbers, can come here and get to vote if they spit out a kid.

Or ... in the time of Manifest Destiny, it was for Americans as they filled the west and the free slaves."

The question is, do you believe, as Justice Scalia did, that the Supreme Court should follow the plain language of the Constitution as it is written? Or do you believe, as Earl Warren did, that Judges should put in place their own opinions of what that language meant, without bothering too much with what the actual words say?

that right there is the heart of the entire dispute between a Conservative Judiciary and a Liberal Judiciary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:19 PM (Kpl3J)

319 Congress can pass a law ending birthright citizenship for children of illegals and SCOTUS can uphold it

Unlike Roberts upholding OCare, little legal gymanastics involved. Just distinguish the case involving children of legal residents

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 21, 2019 02:19 PM (8TP5Z)

320 do blue jobs involve swallowing?
Posted by: Rick in SK at A




starts in the voting booth



haven't you ever wondered why when some democrat goes into the voting booth they kneel?

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 02:19 PM (HALdu)

321 307
>>And that hurt them badly, they probably shit privately into their Danish Depends.



Did they not watch how Trump handed Canada's a$$ to them after playing games with a trade agreement?



Christia Freeland and Trudeau were so cocky and then . . disaster and international humiliation.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (bDqIh)

If Danish PM values her eyebrows, she would thank her lucky stars that Trump called off the meeting.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2019 02:19 PM (t6MX/)

322 CSPAN is showing Trump's presser from earlier before he took off for Kentucky.

I used to love watching Question Time in Parliament. I'd think our President (whoever, at the time) could not think on his feet and spar that adroitly. I wished we had Question Time.

Over time I saw that Question Time was formulaic, but I still wanted to see our President have to sit in the box and respond to organized heckling.

Well, Trump's doing his own version of that. The number of times he just stands outside a helicopter and takes on all comers is astounding. It's American Question Time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2019 02:19 PM (fuK7c)

323 Worst. Episode. Ever.

https://bit.ly/2KNvmbV
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 02:06 PM (+y/Ru)


And, The Simpsons is dead......again.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

324 I remember Scott Walker's throne of skulls.



I miss Scott Walker's throne of skulls.



I'll deal with Trump's throne of skulls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:14 PM (iikV

He traded that throne for some CoC cash. Never forget who his owners are.

Posted by: Skull King at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (vqIkG)

325 >> some folks are upset about trump cancelling the trip to denmark. they apparently love him there.


How many times must people see Trump in action with another country before they recognize that this is how he negotiates?

He publicly praises a foreign leader.
He announces he has great confidence that said leader will want to make a successful deal.
He publicly scolds them if they play games.
He schedules and cancels meeting.
He walks away from the table and follows through with threats (e.g. tariffs) if they play more games.
He starts the cycle over with the praise for the leader yadda yadda yadda.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (bDqIh)

326 Damn.

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

327 I'm late to the party so I'm certain I'll be repating a previous post when I observe:

"Brown: I never observed in him the qualities of intellect, vision, exceptional integrity, or savvy that are required in an effective president. I will be surprised if he survives the primaries."

Who running in the primary holds such qualities?

Posted by: Inogame at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (ySZHT)

328 and read that post before starting in on the "jurisdiction" clause. I don't want to have to write it again.
Posted by: Tom Servo


It says "and" not or. Both parts have to be met.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (hpmES)

329
non citizen permanent residents would be citizens.
Posted by: Someguy

============

Greencard holders then. Not student visas, work visas, tourist visas?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (13CQC)

330 I actually do think that Congress and the President together could change that. The President can't do anything about it on his own, though.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:16 PM (Kpl3J)

SCOTUS would never allow that.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (RD7QR)

331 To all you ham fingered neer do wells out there going on and on about autocorrect:

You can stop that in your settings. Course then you'd have to think about what you're saying! Hah!

Posted by: Tim Cook and Friends at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (cxIsI)

332 The question is, do you believe, as Justice Scalia did, that the Supreme Court should follow the plain language of the Constitution as it is written? Or do you believe, as Earl Warren did, that Judges should put in place their own opinions of what that language meant, without bothering too much with what the actual words say?

that right there is the heart of the entire dispute between a Conservative Judiciary and a Liberal Judiciary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:19 PM (Kpl3J)

Why doesn't the 14th amendment apply to Native Americans?

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (yOykd)

333 324 I'll deal with Trump's throne of skulls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:14 PM (iikV

He traded that throne for some CoC cash. Never forget who his owners are.
Posted by: Skull King at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (vqIkG)

==========

His fumbling about with immigration in the week he was actually in the race was embarrassing.

It's gotta be how Biden's fans feel every time he flip flops on the newest issue of the week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (iikV8)

334 ugh, well, that's stupid.
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (JziUy)

"The law is an ass" - Charles Dickens

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (Kpl3J)

335 How many times must people see Trump in action with another country before they recognize that this is how he negotiates?

He publicly praises a foreign leader.
He announces he has great confidence that said leader will want to make a successful deal.
He publicly scolds them if they play games.
He schedules and cancels meeting.
He walks away from the table and follows through with threats (e.g. tariffs) if they play more games.
He starts the cycle over with the praise for the leader yadda yadda yadda.
Posted by: Lizzy

he should try mentioning how they "punch above their weight"

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (FZYNt)

336 302 artis This was on camera. It is hilarious Doocy answered Biden respectfully and you could see Biden starting to turn purple. By the way Doocy said Warrens crowd numbered about a thousand. LoL

Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2019 02:22 PM (6rjhq)

337 299 Michelle?

Posted by: rammajamma at August 21, 2019 02:22 PM (PQRcz)

338 Fuck you Tim Cook.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, getting fairly disgusted with the lefties at August 21, 2019 02:17 PM (LISuA)


The brewer guy? I didn't think Sam Adams Boston Lager was THAT bad......

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

339 subject to the jurisdiciton thereof.

born and subject to jurisdiction of the US.

meaning, the children of citizens.


I think that's a perfectly valid argument and one that the Supreme Court definitely could use, but I doubt anyone would at this point. Its obviously what the people who wrote the amendment meant, but its poorly worded and the source of most of our modern woes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:22 PM (KZzsI)

340 He traded that throne for some CoC cash. Never forget who his owners are.
Posted by: Skull King at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (vqIkG)


Mrs. George Will and the rest of his whore staff spent all his campaign cash before the first primary.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2019 02:22 PM (y7DUB)

341
Honestly, look at their party. Then imagine their choices -- for a long time to come. Obama killed that party at the local and state level and the Red Guard is taking over. The candidates are going to get worse and worse over the next how many generations?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:01 PM (13CQC)


Yup, this.

They thought that they no longer needed the blue-collar dems, whom they despised, so they were open with their disdain and their desire to hurt the latter group. Meanwhile, thanks to Obama, you're left with no sensible dem to take over from Pelosi or Schumer.

I really do think we're going to see a realignment of the parties, where the Dems either implode or restructure as a globalist party, and the Republicans restructure as a more nationalist party.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 21, 2019 02:22 PM (wCmLp)

342 Has Biden taken any calls from dead foreign leaders lately?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (II6Oo)

343 some folks are upset about trump cancelling the trip to denmark. they apparently love him there.

Question: whom will the Danes blame for his cancelling the meeting?

I'm guessing the Danish PM, for insulting him, is a good bet.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (208R5)

344 118 67 Pres. Trump is considering ending birthright citizenship "
It's not nice to tease. "

It's written into current US Code. Only Congress can change that, with the President's signature. Trump doesn't have the authority to do anything about it on his own, if he tries it will be tossed by the first Federal Judge that hears it.

I *think* that if the Congress and the President work together to change it, that the SCOTUS will go along, but that's not guaranteed. If SCOTUS disagrees, then it will take a Constitutional Amendment, rewriting the 14th Am.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Where is it written in US Code and what does it say? I think it may be up to executive interpretation of the constitution of the meaning of natural born citizen.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (kfcYC)

345 Danish Depends,, I got a laughing poetic hard-on over that.

Posted by: Throbbing Tonsil at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (9PtLS)

346 Christia Freeland and Trudeau were so cocky and then . . disaster and international humiliation.

Posted by: Lizzy

It never ceases to amaze me that other countries leaders are as idiotic and corrupt as they are. Even while the US is trying to help them out of some shit storm of their own making, they have to bite the hand that's feeding them, they just can't help themselves.

Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (32YRo)

347 That Danish PM looks like an owl with lipstick.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (cxIsI)

348 President Joe Biden would threaten to punch other world leaders.

-
The real problem would be Biden at a summit. He might inadvertently give Putin everything east of the Mississippi. We'd have to warn world leaders not to believe a word he says.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (+y/Ru)

349 The "and subject to the jurisdiction of" clause is clearly exclusionary. An understanding contemporary with the era would mean individuals subject to the US "crown" or sovereign nation.

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (yOykd)

350 Well, Trump's doing his own version of that. The number of times he just stands outside a helicopter and takes on all comers is astounding. It's American Question Time.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2019 02:19 PM (fuK7c)

This is why I think that Trump would simply kill it in the presidential debates.

I loved W (at the time), but I was always afraid that he would put his foot in his mouth if he were asked more than three questions in a row. I've never had any fear of Trump doing that at any point in his presidency. Now that he actually has experience with how government works, plus this practice in dealing with hostile questions, when the average LIV sees him in action when full attention needs to be paid to the election by the public people will be blown away.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (iuFgi)

351 347 That Danish PM looks like an owl with lipstick.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (cxIsI)

Lol...yes, rather unfortunate looking.

Posted by: IC at August 21, 2019 02:24 PM (a0IVu)

352 he should try mentioning how they "punch above their weight"
Posted by: Barack Obama at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (FZYNt)


And throw in a few "folks."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:24 PM (208R5)

353 some folks are upset about trump cancelling the trip to denmark. they apparently love him there.

Question: whom will the Danes blame for his cancelling the meeting?

I'm guessing the Danish PM, for insulting him, is a good bet.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (208R5)


I've been to Denmark. They don't really like him there because Fake News rules the day. They still think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 02:24 PM (Zz0t1)

354 How many times must people see Trump in action with another country before they recognize that this is how he negotiates?
...
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2019 02:20 PM (bDqIh)
++++++++++++++
No national leader anywhere in the even slightly developed world is remotely familiar with consistency or follow-through.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:24 PM (I2dne)

355 347
That Danish PM looks like an owl with lipstick.


Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (cxIsI)

Who?

Posted by: Danish PM at August 21, 2019 02:24 PM (t6MX/)

356 Just went and looked at pics of Kamala Harris. She doesn't have the lips for giving out blue jobs though her mouth looks sizable like Julia Roberts, so make of that what you will.

Posted by: JROD at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (0pMBV)

357 He comes from a family of blue blooded back stabbers but he's kept his yap zipped since leaving office. Plus he loved his dogs.

He made a few cracks early on about Trump but yeah he's been pretty quiet. I think President Bush the Younger is a good man who has some stupid ideas.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (KZzsI)

358 Biden's face has been lifted so many times he looks like a white Asian.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (II6Oo)

359
The question is, do you believe, as Justice Scalia did, that the Supreme Court should follow the plain language of the Constitution as it is written? Or do you believe, as Earl Warren did, that Judges should put in place their own opinions of what that language meant, without bothering too much with what the actual words say?

that right there is the heart of the entire dispute between a Conservative Judiciary and a Liberal Judiciary.
Posted by: Tom Servo

======

Wasn't Scalia also the one who said the Constitution isn't a national suicide pact? Not that birthright citizenship is lethal, but it's certainly unhealthy to the body politic.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (13CQC)

360 >>he should try mentioning how they "punch above their weight"


I cannot tell you how many times I have watch that clip. I love that guy's sarcasm as he notes each country Obama says is punching above their weight- was he from Denmark?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (bDqIh)

361 Why doesn't the 14th amendment apply to Native Americans?
Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (yOykd)

It does, now. Congress rewrote all of the laws covering Native Americans in the massive Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, and that included bringing them inside the 14th Amendment. That's what causes me to believe that Congressional Action could deal with this situation without the need for a Constitutional Amendment, since Congress did it for the Native Americans.

but the President many NOT change statutory law with an EO. He can only direct how existing law is to be enforced, subject to review by the Judiciary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (Kpl3J)

362
I've been to Denmark. They don't really like him there because Fake News rules the day. They still think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.
Posted by: Sponge

======

Probably true all over Europe.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:26 PM (13CQC)

363 really I am now very personally invested in buying greenland, I want it and I am willing to pay for it, bigly.
Posted by: yankeefifith


Buy it. Flip it to Canada for Saskatchewan, alberta, BC & Yukon thereby having a contiguous connection to Alaska.

Those four are roughly the same size as Greenland.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 02:26 PM (hpmES)

364 This paste tastes like sauerkraut!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2019 02:26 PM (xoUv9)

365 This is why I think that Trump would simply kill it in the presidential debates.

Imagine Candy "Fat Ass" Crowley and Obama pulling their kabuki stunt re the transcripts.

A TiVo moment would definitely ensue.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:26 PM (208R5)

366 I've been to Denmark. They don't really like him there because Fake News rules the day. They still think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.

Yeah that's generally true in Europe. That's why they fight so hard to shut down guys like Sargon of Akkad, because they slip the truth through and straighten up the bent story the press tells. I mean, how are they to know what's BS and what isn't from the press?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (KZzsI)

367 Buy it. Flip it to Canada for Saskatchewan, alberta, BC & Yukon thereby having a contiguous connection to Alaska.

Those four are roughly the same size as Greenland.
Posted by: rickb223

I for one would welcome our new American Overlords.

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (FZYNt)

368 The standing exception (dating back to Common Law) is for " children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory"

Not too tough to show as to why that is the case.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (6qErC)

369 Buy it. Flip it to Canada for Saskatchewan, alberta, BC & Yukon thereby having a contiguous connection to Alaska.

Those four are roughly the same size as Greenland.
Posted by: rickb223 at A



lol, no I have to own greenland, then I want iceland too.

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (HALdu)

370 I accept two explanations for this comment. The most likely one is that "survives" means running at the end.

But there maybe an outside chance that Biden will be campaigning in Guam when it capsizes.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (DuZls)

371 Even George Bush was kinda bland
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:12 PM (KZzsI)

I'm still trying to figure out if his "regular guy" schtick was a con or what. He comes from a family of blue blooded back stabbers but he's kept his yap zipped since leaving office. Plus he loved his dogs. So I'm torn...
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2019 02:18 PM (y7DUB)

In one way, W was like the Michael Corleone of the Bush family--that is, he wasn't supposed to enter the family business. Jeb was.

But once he decided to get in, he decided he was just going to go along with pop's advisers and the neocon think tanks and Cheney. So he's a globalist.

I think that in a lot of ways, he is the frat boy that the Left always said he was. I don't think it's an act.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (NFEMn)

372 Why doesn't the 14th amendment apply to Native Americans?
Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (yOykd)
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IIRR, at the time, they were considered part of their own tribal nations. Their status as American citizens was not rectified by statute until long after the. frontier was closed

Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (iB1oa)

373 204
>>Draw a line from Washington, DC to Boston. Everyone who supports Warren lives within 50 miles of that line.




She is a darling in places like Austin and most University Towns.


The lesbian Humanities Professors love her.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019

*
*
. . .

Believe it or don't, but I have an econ prof in my department who studies, teaches, and writes about international trade. He thinks Trump is stupid, and that when it comes to Warren, "there's some substance there."

I stopped listening to him after I heard that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 21, 2019 02:28 PM (ClOmq)

374 362 I've been to Denmark. They don't really like him there because Fake News rules the day. They still think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.
Posted by: Sponge

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Probably true all over Europe.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:26 PM (13CQC)

I think that Poland loves him.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2019 02:28 PM (/rsCS)

375 Buy it. Flip it to Canada for Saskatchewan, alberta, BC & Yukon thereby having a contiguous connection to Alaska.

Those provinces (and territory) aren't particularly fond of eastern Canada, either. Except for Victoria, its basically Portland North.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:28 PM (KZzsI)

376 lol, no I have to own greenland, then I want iceland too.
Posted by: yankeefifith at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (HALdu)
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Paging US Citizen Bjork. US Citizen Bjork to the nearest white courtesy telephone, please.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:28 PM (I2dne)

377 375 Buy it. Flip it to Canada for Saskatchewan, alberta, BC & Yukon thereby having a contiguous connection to Alaska.

Those provinces (and territory) aren't particularly fond of eastern Canada, either. Except for Victoria, its basically Portland North.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:28 PM (KZzsI)

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Better idea:

Finish what we started 207 years ago and simply take Canada by conquest. Rule it with an iron fist until they become Americans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:29 PM (iikV8)

378 Believe it or don't, but I have an econ prof in my department who studies, teaches, and writes about international trade. He thinks Trump is stupid, and that when it comes to Warren, "there's some substance there."

Wait til he gets Thornton Mellon in his class

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:29 PM (KZzsI)

379 Saskatchewan, alberta, BC Yukon are also the conservative wing in Canadia? So a perfect fit.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 02:29 PM (cxIsI)

380
54.
40.
Or.
Fight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 02:29 PM (AzW6q)

381 Buy it. Flip it to Canada for Saskatchewan, alberta, BC & Yukon thereby having a contiguous connection to Alaska.

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You don't need Sask or Alberta for that. BC/Yukon is enough.

Posted by: Downtown Atlanta, Austin, Denver at August 21, 2019 02:29 PM (FiUMj)

382 Wasn't Scalia also the one who said the Constitution isn't a national suicide pact?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia



I've said that repeatedly. Here.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 02:29 PM (hpmES)

383 Finish what we started 207 years ago and simply take Canada by conquest. Rule it with an iron fist until they become Americans.

Let's practice a few times with places like California, make sure we got it right, first.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (KZzsI)

384 do blue jobs involve swallowing?
Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:16 PM


What have those little bastards been saying?!

Posted by: Smurfette at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (ejd/p)

385 I've been to Denmark. They don't really like him there because Fake News rules the day. They still think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.

Posted by: Sponge


Yeah, I get that. But the folks running Denmark wanted that meeting, they needed that meeting, because Greenland costs them money that no one in Nuuk has or cares about - money the Danes could use to prop up their welfare state. Now Ms Woodsy Owl has shit the bed, so they'll have to try and make up nice with Trump to get the US back to the table.

Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (32YRo)

386 361 Why doesn't the 14th amendment apply to Native Americans?
Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (yOykd)

It does, now. Congress rewrote all of the laws covering Native Americans in the massive Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, and that included bringing them inside the 14th Amendment. That's what causes me to believe that Congressional Action could deal with this situation without the need for a Constitutional Amendment, since Congress did it for the Native Americans.

but the President many NOT change statutory law with an EO. He can only direct how existing law is to be enforced, subject to review by the Judiciary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (Kpl3J)

The implication that this was necessary is that Indians, being subject to their respective tribe, were not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US merely by traveling on US lands.

US law is now a mixture of 20th century legal concepts and the much older European legal concepts tied to kingdoms and such. This has lead to many weird results relative to other countries. It's an ugly mish mash but I don't see any reason to favor an obviously obtuse interpretation.

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (yOykd)

387 If the U.S. also bought Iceland you'd win all strong man competitions while increasing the pool of hot blondes.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (II6Oo)

388 Wasn't Scalia also the one who said the Constitution isn't a national suicide pact? Not that birthright citizenship is lethal, but it's certainly unhealthy to the body politic.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (13CQC)
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That phrase goes back to when Hamilton tried to create the National Bank, if not further.

Scalia was just quoting a phrase with a lot of history.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (DuZls)

389 Yeah that's generally true in Europe. That's why they fight so hard to shut down guys like Sargon of Akkad, because they slip the truth through and straighten up the bent story the press tells. I mean, how are they to know what's BS and what isn't from the press?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (KZzsI)


I was talking with a very sensible German businessman (who'd previously spent a number of years in the US) recently who allowed as to how he was beginning to suspect that the German media were in the bag for the left.

Actually pretty perspicacious of him, I think, given the leftist uniformity of the media there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (208R5)

390 379 Saskatchewan, alberta, BC Yukon are also the conservative wing in Canadia? So a perfect fit.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist

lower mainland BC is pretty green, which means they make your DNC look like Rush Limbaugh

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (FZYNt)

391
I think that Poland loves him.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor

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True, I should have said Old Europe.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (13CQC)

392 Finish what we started 207 years ago and simply take Canada by conquest. Rule it with an iron fist until they become Americans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba

==========================

No thanks, it's full of Canadians.

Posted by: Guzalot at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (prSvo)

393 383 Finish what we started 207 years ago and simply take Canada by conquest. Rule it with an iron fist until they become Americans.

Let's practice a few times with places like California, make sure we got it right, first.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (KZzsI)

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It's a plan.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (iikV8)

394 379 Saskatchewan, alberta, BC Yukon are also the conservative wing in Canadia? So a perfect fit.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 02:29 PM (cxIsI)

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BC Conservative? Uhm, no.

Alberta, yes. Saskatchewan, kinda. BC.....fuck no!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (FiUMj)

395 Biden's face has been lifted so many times he looks like a white Asian.
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at August 21, 2019 02:25 PM (II6Oo)


A CaucAsian.

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 02:31 PM (Zz0t1)

396 No thanks, it's full of Canadians.
Posted by: Guzalot at August 21, 2019 02:30 PM (prSvo)


We already get their best Canadian beaver brought across the border.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 21, 2019 02:31 PM (wCmLp)

397 You don't need Sask or Alberta for that. BC/Yukon is enough.
Posted by: Downtown Atlanta


Alberta Oil Sands.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 02:31 PM (hpmES)

398 Maybe Clooney, if he decides to jump in, but his appeal will be limited. 
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:04 PM (iikV 


This was originally my worry, but it's bullshit. Trump is best buds with Al-Sisi, and Amal is a lawyer for terrorists. And that's before Weinstein. Trump will fucking destroy Clooney. And Matt Damon. If Oprah could ever win, she would have done it 3 years ago.

Dwayne Johnson was and is a concern, he'll certainly do better than the rest of the pack. But Trump is best buds with the McMahons. So that will never happen.

The Dems need to worry about their own stable. Which Hillary burned 3 years ago to assure her own ascension. Whoooooops!

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2019 02:31 PM (gARuA)

399 Believe it or don't, but I have an econ prof in my department who studies, teaches, and writes about international trade. He thinks Trump is stupid, and that when it comes to Warren, "there's some substance there."

I stopped listening to him after I heard that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 21, 2019 02:28 PM (ClOmq)
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Trump is an anti-globalist and is not a free trade fundamentalist. He seems to like free trade when it's an above-board reciprocal deal but has no use for the "they'll get rich before we go broke" assertion in favor of asymmetrical free trade.

If someone is a college professor who handles international trade, he probably came of age during the "free trade at all costs" era of theoretical dominance and has built his career on it. Trump's positions are antithetical to that.

If this is right (and obviously I don't know the guy), I probably even understand this one. Trump's opposed to the theories on which he probably maintains his survival and lifestyle.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:31 PM (I2dne)

400 I think that in a lot of ways, he is the frat boy that the Left always said he was. I don't think it's an act.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (NFEMn)

This is why I no longer dismiss out of hand all the criticisms the Left makes of the Right (and this should be vice versa as well). Your enemies always see a side of you that your friends ignore, out of kindness.

I think that, for instance, Sarah Palin was horribly treated by the press and the GOPe, and that she didn't deserve, AT ALL, what she got from them. At the end, however, she ended up like the caricature that the MFM painted her as.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (iuFgi)

401 There were plans to build an Alaska highway in the 1910s and 20s. But Canada backed off fearing that once the highway was complete, the US would claim the land of Northern BC.

I think that's kind of funny, but probably wasn't that crazy back then.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (FiUMj)

402 Probably true all over Europe.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:26 PM (13CQC)
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That's been true for a long time. Our Civil War thrilled a lot of Europeans because they thought the American experiment was ending. Bill Shirer gloomily noted in 1932 that anti-Americanism was rife in Europe.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (iB1oa)

403 He doesn't drool nearly as much as I'd expect.

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (FhXTo)

404 They can keep BC, and we'll also throw in coastal WA, OR, and CA

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (flINI)

405
That phrase goes back to when Hamilton tried to create the National Bank, if not further.

Scalia was just quoting a phrase with a lot of history.
Posted by: Axeman

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Okay then he wasn't Thee One, but he's a believer in the concept, which should allow for a reading of the Constitution that favors a healthy republic rather than an injured one.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (13CQC)

406 What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (NFEMn)

407 Better idea:

Finish what we started 207 years ago and simply take Canada by conquest. Rule it with an iron fist until they become Americans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:29 PM (iikV
+++++++++++
War Plan Red is probably still on file in the Army war college. We could dust it off..

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (I2dne)

408 402 Probably true all over Europe.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:26 PM (13CQC)
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That's been true for a long time. Our Civil War thrilled a lot of Europeans because they thought the American experiment was ending. Bill Shirer gloomily noted in 1932 that anti-Americanism was rife in Europe.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (iB1oa)

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I guess we shouldn't get involved and save them from their next Hitler.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (iikV8)

409 The suicide pact quote is from some judge.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (cxIsI)

410 406 What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?
Posted by: JoeF.

We're fuckin broke

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (FZYNt)

411 That's been true for a long time. Our Civil War thrilled a lot of Europeans because they thought the American experiment was ending. Bill Shirer gloomily noted in 1932 that anti-Americanism was rife in Europe.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (iB1oa)

Blame the Bolsheviks

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (NFEMn)

412 Presently US citizens and corporations doing business overseas have all the penalties of being a subject with none of the benefits(typically the benefits would've meant serious protection and enjoyment of approximately domestic legal conditions).

If we really wanted to spice the hams of people doing birth tourism, we could technically draft the offspring.

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (yOykd)

413 Those provinces (and territory) aren't particularly fond of eastern Canada, either. Except for Victoria, its basically Portland North.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:28 PM (KZzsI)

No way in hell will you get Chinese owned BC, unless the BC Liberals (decently strong conservatives) expel the NDP first. Stick to Alberta and the territories.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (gARuA)

414 386 361 Why doesn't the 14th amendment apply to Native Americans?
Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:21 PM (yOykd)
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Because they are separate nations like Mexico.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (2LelM)

415 What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?
Posted by: JoeF


GDP = Rhode Island?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (hpmES)

416 410 406 What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?
Posted by: JoeF.

We're fuckin broke
Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (FZYNt)

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So are we. But what's another $10B added to the debt?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (FiUMj)

417 349 The "and subject to the jurisdiction of" clause is clearly exclusionary. An understanding contemporary with the era would mean individuals subject to the US "crown" or sovereign nation.
Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:23 PM (yOykd)

Standing Supreme Court Precedent for the last 120 years on the topic of "Subject to the Jurisdiction of" - never been overturned. And it is *not* dicta, it is from the body of the decision. For all Courts in the United States, for the last 120 years, this is the *Legal* definition of "Subject to the Jurisdiction of":

From the majority opinion of Wong Kim Ark (189:

"the Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The Amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born, within the territory of the United States, of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States. Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and, although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory, is yet, in the words of Lord Coke in Calvin's Case, 7 Rep. 6a, "strong enough to make a natural subject, for if he hath issue here, that issue is a natural-born subject;" and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, "if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle."

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (Kpl3J)

418 If someone had proposed an Amendment on this decades long dispute when it first started we would have resolved the issue. Instead as with most issues having to do with the law and attorneys, we are still arguing about it.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (+bKWx)

419 406 What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (NFEMn)

Canada can't afford to match Trump.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (gARuA)

420
That's been true for a long time. Our Civil War thrilled a lot of Europeans because they thought the American experiment was ending. Bill Shirer gloomily noted in 1932 that anti-Americanism was rife in Europe.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

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Gawd their stupidity goes back that far? I thought it was a post-WWII thing, all resentful that the barbarian upstart ex-colonies had to save their proud, ancient asses.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (13CQC)

421 406
What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (NFEMn)

Canaduh.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (t6MX/)

422 What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (NFEMn)
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The exchange rate

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:35 PM (I2dne)

423 The controversy over Greenland is the dumbest one (so FAR!) of all the unnecessary Trump punchdowns... altho going off on Miss Venezuela for being too fat is a close second.

Also, "I am the chosen one" is a regrettable choice of words.

Posted by: mnw at August 21, 2019 02:35 PM (Cssks)

424
I think that, for instance, Sarah Palin was horribly treated by the press and the GOPe, and that she didn't deserve, AT ALL, what she got from them. At the end, however, she ended up like the caricature that the MFM painted her as.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (iuFgi)

Good point.

But of all the criticism of Trump from the Left--what do we see that we don't?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:35 PM (NFEMn)

425 418 If someone had proposed an Amendment on this decades long dispute when it first started we would have resolved the issue. Instead as with most issues having to do with the law and attorneys, we are still arguing about it.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (+bKWx)

We're arguing about obvious meanings and denying both God and Christ because of the lawyers. Not the Founders.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2019 02:35 PM (gARuA)

426 Can you imagine how many Canadian Bacon Ranches would fit on Greenland?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 21, 2019 02:35 PM (flINI)

427 3 letter named trolls?

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:36 PM (FZYNt)

428 Finish what we started 207 years ago and simply take Canada by conquest.

Then who would we blame?


Posted by: KylesMomsSock at August 21, 2019 02:36 PM (FhXTo)

429 I have observed Joe Biden since the 1970s. As a politician, I have never known him to be anything other than a mendacious and vicious partisan. I am not going to criticize him for graduating in the top three quarters of his law class but he has never impressed me as somebody capable of articulating his or anybody else views in a way likely to inspire others. In retrospect, he seems to have had neurological issues since his teens with stuttering and culminating in a stroke in 1988. I can understand why B.O. selected him as a VP. As a hyper progressive with white skin he was likely to reassure soccer and wine moms while at the same time posing no serious distraction from B.O. himself as the center of attention. One interesting fact is that he and Donald Trump are both teetotalers.

Posted by: Punchinello at August 21, 2019 02:36 PM (zOrpp)

430 What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (NFEMn)


Trudeau.

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2019 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)

431 But of all the criticism of Trump from the Left--what do we see that we don't?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:35 PM (NFEMn)
I meant what do THEY see that we don't?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:36 PM (NFEMn)

432 I think all the Danes were looking for was the US picking up the defense tab and other miscellaneous expenses and they would offer a slice of the Island.

But now miss squawky pants has blown that out of the water.

She probably didn't even know talks were going on.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at August 21, 2019 02:36 PM (cxIsI)

433 If someone is a college professor who handles international trade, he probably came of age during the "free trade at all costs" era of theoretical dominance and has built his career on it. Trump's positions are antithetical to that.

If this is right (and obviously I don't know the guy), I probably even understand this one. Trump's opposed to the theories on which he probably maintains his survival and lifestyle.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:31 PM (I2dne)

Had this discussion a month ago with my Son, who is an Economics and Business Major an U of Colorado, Denver.

He was saying his Professors said, and my response?

Why the hell would you listen to College Professors about Economics or business? If they really knew what the hell they were talking about, they would be IN Business, making a buttload more money.

He got really quiet.

Posted by: Don QQQ... at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (NgKpN)

434 I think that, for instance, Sarah Palin was horribly treated by the press and the GOPe, and that she didn't deserve, AT ALL, what she got from them. At the end, however, she ended up like the caricature that the MFM painted her as.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (iuFgi)

Most people can't handle that pressure. Who could expect it?

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (gARuA)

435 NonSarcastically having Canada be not US is a good thing just like having France be not all the way NATO was.

Posted by: KylesMomsSock at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (FhXTo)

436 War Plan Red is probably still on file in the Army war college. We could dust it off..
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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We have our own plans...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y4ob38mh

Posted by: Canada at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (CDGwz)

437 In 1867 the founders of Canada were trying to come up with a name for the new country.

They put a bunch of letters into a hat and started randomly drawing.

First letter...C, eh?

Second letter N, eh?

Third letter, D, eh.

And that's how the country came to be known as
C-Eh-N-Eh-D-Eh or as you all know it C A N A D A

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (FiUMj)

438
I guess we shouldn't get involved and save them from their next Hitler.
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That was part two. Part one was saving democracy from German democracy in WWI. The real reason was saving Wall Street from a collapsing loan portfolio built on French and British IOUs with the German Army in the East now free to move West.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (2LelM)

439 430 What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (NFEMn)

Trudeau.
Posted by: Sponge

nah, just tell him their are boatloads of corruption money to be made and he can march in the 1st pride parade in Greenland and he's all in

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (FZYNt)

440 >>Also, "I am the chosen one" is a regrettable choice of words.




Bad optics (tm)!!




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Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (bDqIh)

441 >>What's to stop Canada from swooping in and buying Greenland?


Their silly monopoly money.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2019 02:38 PM (7JSnm)

442 Why the hell would you listen to College Professors about Economics or business? If they really knew what the hell they were talking about, they would be IN Business, making a buttload more money. 

He got really quiet.

Posted by: Don QQQ... at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (NgKpN)

Most of my professors were hired from successful businesses on part time bases, specifically to avoid this.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2019 02:38 PM (gARuA)

443 Okay then he wasn't Thee One, but he's a believer in the concept, which should allow for a reading of the Constitution that favors a healthy republic rather than an injured one.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (13CQC)
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I was pointing out that that principle of the Constitution has a lot of history and tradition. The American Left (not the Internationalist Left) want to treat the Constitution (because of the Supremacy clause) as a Holy Writ. So do a lot of libertarians. As a result, there is a lot of Constitution as a Suicide Pact sentiment on the left/libertarian side.

The Constitution is mostly an agreed-upon way of doing things. For example, Lincoln cited that principle on the House Divided issue.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2019 02:38 PM (DuZls)

444 lol Hank has Joe pegged.

Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2019 02:39 PM (9bi3K)

445 Gawd their stupidity goes back that far? I thought it was a post-WWII thing, all resentful that the barbarian upstart ex-colonies had to save their proud, ancient asses.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (13CQC)

There's been a significant subset of Europe that has hated us from the start. We rejected the pretensions of aristocracy and proved it unnecessary for, and detrimental to the operation of society

They fear that it might catch on.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 21, 2019 02:39 PM (J+mig)

446 NOOD

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 21, 2019 02:39 PM (FZYNt)

447 lol Hank has Joe pegged.
Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2019 02:39 PM (9bi3K)

Phrasing, punk. Or I'll punch you out!

Posted by: Biden at August 21, 2019 02:39 PM (NFEMn)

448
I guess we shouldn't get involved and save them from their next Hitler.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba

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Have a plan next time. We make saving their asses contingent on a few privileges beyond six feet for everyone who doesn't make it home. Now THOSE privileges would be fun to dream up.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:40 PM (13CQC)

449 Most people can't handle that pressure. Who could expect it?
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (gARuA)

Yet one more reason that there is a circle in Hell reserved for John McCain, Steve Schmidt, and Nicolle Wallace. McCain couldn't stand being outshone by Palin, so he let his minions shiv her. It cost him the presidency he so clearly wanted.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2019 02:40 PM (iuFgi)

450 420
That's been true for a long time. Our Civil War thrilled a lot of Europeans because they thought the American experiment was ending. Bill Shirer gloomily noted in 1932 that anti-Americanism was rife in Europe.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

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Gawd their stupidity goes back that far? I thought it was a post-WWII thing, all resentful that the barbarian upstart ex-colonies had to save their proud, ancient asses.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 21, 2019 02:34 PM (13CQC)

Napoleon sold us the Louisiana purchase for one simple reason.

He didn't think we could do anything with it, and was afraid Britain would claim it for Canada.

Posted by: Don QQQ... at August 21, 2019 02:40 PM (NgKpN)

451 Also, "I am the chosen one" is a regrettable choice of words.
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Not so much when you remember that Trump assembles his sentences ad hoc.

He is the one who was chosen to stand up for America. The establishment and the Hillary party wasn't really keen on somebody taking a stand for America.

We chose Trumpachu.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2019 02:40 PM (DuZls)

452 Why the hell would you listen to College Professors about Economics or business? If they really knew what the hell they were talking about, they would be IN Business, making a buttload more money.

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College perfessers at top colleges make well into 6 figures working a few hours a week. That's their side gig. Their real job is usually consultant, or working at a think tank, or what have you.

It's a lucrative career.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 21, 2019 02:41 PM (FiUMj)

453 411 That's been true for a long time. Our Civil War thrilled a lot of Europeans because they thought the American experiment was ending. Bill Shirer gloomily noted in 1932 that anti-Americanism was rife in Europe.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 21, 2019 02:32 PM (iB1oa)

Blame the Bolsheviks
Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:33 PM (NFEMn)


They stir it up as much as they can, but it exists quite independently of them.

Europe used to be the center of the world. It was pushed off center stage by America, and they were not best pleased by it.

The Brits are equivocal about it, partially resenting being eclipsed, but also partially kind of proud of their cousins' success.

The French, OTOH, 100% resent their demotion, for which they blame us, and bitterly resent the jokes we make about, e.g., their military prowess.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:41 PM (208R5)

454 Heshmat Alavi @HeshmatAlavi
now
#BREAKING
US officials confirm to Reuters a US military MQ-9 drone was shot down over Yemen last night by what appears to be a surface to air missile launched by the #Iran-backed Houthi militias.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 21, 2019 02:41 PM (BqBId)

455 I can understand why B.O. selected him as a VP. As a hyper progressive with white skin he was likely to reassure soccer and wine moms while at the same time posing no serious distraction from B.O. himself as the center of attention.

Well, and he was assassination insurance. Who'd get rid of Obama and put that scumbag idiot in charge?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:42 PM (KZzsI)

456 Which Democrats have a high opinion of Biden? I have yet to hear any Democrat, even a lowly one, say that Joe is the guy to lead the nation, no question about it.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 21, 2019 02:43 PM (wGbBR)

457 "the Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens,"


Resident aliens I have repeatedly stated were clearly included(not as others propose citizens only). It is obvious that the 14th amendment does not reference Indians directly, and so must be considered an addition by the judiciary(the tradition of common law is ultimately one of kritarchy). Given the 14th amendment received a commonsense addition in keeping with our tradition of common law, this would be a logical extension or clarification.

Did the writers of the law intend Indians, tourists, or trespassers to be included? No. Does the 14th amendment mention any of these by name? Also no.

Most law functions based on non (hyper) literalist and common sense understanding.

Posted by: Someguy at August 21, 2019 02:43 PM (yOykd)

458 Yet one more reason that there is a circle in Hell reserved for John McCain

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He is locked in the ice of Lake Cocytus, reserved for traitors like him:

https://tinyurl.com/y4995vwb

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2019 02:43 PM (AzW6q)

459 http://bit.ly/2KZ959R
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Never-Trump Globalist Mitt Romney says He's No Longer "Part of the Republican Establishment" -- Then Slams Trump

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 21, 2019 02:43 PM (BqBId)

460 College perfessers at top colleges make well into 6 figures working a few hours a week.

Nothing could be further from the truth at a major university. That's like saying NFL players make millions for working for a few hours every Sunday.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:43 PM (208R5)

461 Maybe Greenlanders resist the idea of becoming U.S. citizens, but everyone wants to be a Texan. Let's have Texas annex Greenland and rename it Way North Texas. I'll send a memo to Gov. Greg Abbott.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2019 02:43 PM (q1Pj5)

462 He didn't think we could do anything with it, and was afraid Britain would claim it for Canada.

Well, and he needed the money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2019 02:44 PM (KZzsI)

463 In one way, W was like the Michael Corleone of the Bush family--that is, he wasn't supposed to enter the family business. Jeb was.

But once he decided to get in, he decided he was just going to go along with pop's advisers and the neocon think tanks and Cheney. So he's a globalist.

I think that in a lot of ways, he is the frat boy that the Left always said he was. I don't think it's an act.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2019 02:27 PM (NFEMn)


He's the frat boy who found religion. I'm pretty sure that's legit.

Cheney was the odd man out among his advisers. What happened to Scooter Libby is a major red flag on GWB.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2019 02:44 PM (y7DUB)

464 We have our own plans...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y4ob38mh
Posted by: Canada at August 21, 2019 02:37 PM (CDGwz)
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Huh, that is new to me and I'll need to read it thoroughly when I have time. I wonder if the planned assault on the west coast by Japan was integral to the strategy or not. Even in 1921, that was a helluva gamble.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2019 02:45 PM (I2dne)

465 I think all the Danes were looking for was the US picking up the defense tab and other miscellaneous expenses and they would offer a slice of the Island.

Posted by: jakee308

That sounds plausible - since we don't want ChiComs building airports, then we'd have to do it because the Danes weren't - for that we get some airbases and a port to park the subs needed to block the Artic.

Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2019 02:47 PM (32YRo)

466 Napoleon sold us the Louisiana purchase for one simple reason.

He didn't think we could do anything with it, and was afraid Britain would claim it for Canada.
Posted by: Don QQQ... at August 21, 2019 02:40 PM (NgKpN)


The one simple reason is he needed the money to fight the Napoleonic Wars. Same reason he lost Haiti: he didn't have the resources to fight effectively there AND in Europe.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2019 02:47 PM (208R5)

467 To all you ham fingered neer do wells out there going on and on about autocorrect:

Or you could just proofread what you typed (after autocorrected) before you hit post!

Posted by: Tim Cook's Assistant at August 21, 2019 04:07 PM (ZD+J8)

468 Hank Johnson, oh yeah the guy who has terrorist group, Miftah, pay for his trips to Israel. Its like they sought out a guy who thought Guam would tip over.

Posted by: wferrin at August 22, 2019 01:29 AM (UjYaa)

469 I used to take guys like this Hank Brown out behind the gymnasium and beat the hell out of them.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 22, 2019 05:33 AM (2Ia/C)

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