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Gun Thread: Turn in Your Homework! [Weasel]
Don't make me call your parents!
ASSIGNMENT: Why don't some of you try shooting one-handed this week and let us know how it goes in next weekend's Gun Thread?
Let's kick things off with this most excellent electronic mail message from our pal Our Country is Screwed:The range I go to has a monthly "Action Shooters Group" aka tactical practice. Each session begins with a scenario that the devious instructor dreams up. Those in attendance weren't allowed down into the indoor range to see the scenario - kept it a surprise. We would all go down one at a time and do the scenario with the instructor. One such episode the instructor called down each shooter one at a time. You were instructed to unload your pistol, set the pistol down with the slide NOT locked back. Your magazine was to be set beside the pistol. He then asked which hand was your dominant hand - then proceeded to wrap your hand as if you were wounded. The scenario was this. You were cooking and burned your hand - hence the bandage. Your wife and daughter are in bed. There is a noise like someone is breaking into your home. Go deal with the situation. You had to load your weapon and chamber a round -- one handed. Then go around a mock-up wall and shoot the targets set up. In low light. And only shoot the bad guys. Figuring out how to chamber a round with one hand -safely - was a challenge. Several approaches were taken. Key is to use your rear sight. Rack your slide off your belt was one option. Kneel down and use your heel (what I did), or even use the table that your gun was on. Great training exercise and was very realistic. Note to all: If you belong to a range, check if they have such a group. Several do around me in NH. You'll probably have to qualify to join - but do it. If for nothing else, it will get you out once a month (or however they meet) and get you to practice.This sounds like a well run program! Not only is there a place for people to shoot, but somone has taken the initiative to form a group and actually help others develop some real world skills. I wish MY indoor range had a program like this! Thanks Our Country is Screwed! While the above probably represents the gold standard for public range training opportunities, did any of you practice one-handed shooting on your own last week? Was it the first time you tried it? How did it go?
I have a couple of GunfighterINC chest rigs for large frame semi-autos and a Diamond D Leather chest rig with a detatchable flap for a Ruger .44 mag.So I popped right over to the GunfightersINC website and took a peek. It didn't take me long to find the Kenai chest holster, and a few clicks later my order was placed. The good ol' USPS delivered it a few days later, and it's exactly what I was looking for. As Waepnedmann points out, the Kydex construction and nylon webbing makes this a much better option than leather when you're outside working where sweat and rain might be an issue. It's easily adjustable and comfy as shit - you really don't notice it's there after a few minutes. It holds the weapon, in my case a S&W .357 snubby, very securely and at just the right angle for an easy draw. My only thought is at the $150 price point, an adjustable tension screw would have been a nice feature, but it may never be needed. With that said, I'd definitely recommend the product! Thanks Waepnedmann! Do any of you use a similar rig and how do you like it?
The Diamond D Leather rig is a beautiful piece of work, but I would go with the GunfightersINC, because the holster shell is Kydex and holds up better to rain and sweat. After wearing either one for just a short time you do not even know it's there and it does not get in the way when working.
Well apparantly, New Zealand is doubling down on stupid and proposing more gun control, this time in the form of a gun registration requirement. Evidently, their confiscation efforts aren't going very well because they can't figure out who has the guns they want to grab. For our brothers and sisters in that beautiful country, hang tough. For those of us here, pay damn close attention to what's going on in NZFrank's neck of the woods. You'll be seeing it here soon enough.
I Told You So...
...and What You Can Do About It
VIDEO: One-handed Malfunction Clearing
Article: Cut Your Reaction Time
Article: Ten New Pro-2nd Amendment Laws for Texas
Article: Minimalist Reloading Setup
22LR Competition: This Looks Like Fun!
Went to the range today and this is Mrs. E’s target form her second shoot since broken right arm with a Kimber Micro9
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:01 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:03 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:03 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (0E35O)
Dominant hand: 10 yards = dinner plate shot group, recoil was straight up
Off hand (left): 10 yards = 8" shot group! Recoil was a rotation clockwise which was weird as hell because there was no muzzle rise.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (0E35O)
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How'd you like it? Is this your first 1911?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:05 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:05 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2019 07:05 PM (LDbTO)
Dominant hand: 10 yards = dinner plate shot group, recoil was straight up
Off hand (left): 10 yards = 8" shot group! Recoil was a rotation clockwise which was weird as hell because there was no muzzle rise.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (VcFUs)
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Nice!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (LDbTO)
Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (0E35O)
Lord knows i could use the stress relief.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:07 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:07 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)
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That had to hurt.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:08 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:08 PM (0E35O)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:08 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)
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That had to hurt.
Posted by: Weasel
ISWYDT.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (LDbTO)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (MVjcR)
Weasel, I'm not even a shooter and I appreciate the gun thread. Thanks for all you do.
Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (1FhAQ)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)
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That had to hurt.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:08 PM (MVjcR)
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not to mention being overkill...
it should only take 5 or so rounds to completely destroy an adult hand.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (0E35O)
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:10 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:10 PM (bgJ0E)
Weasel, I'm not even a shooter and I appreciate the gun thread. Thanks for all you do.
Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (1FhAQ)
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Why you're certainly welcome. I'm glad you like it!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:11 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel
right arm was sore as hell, left wrist was as well, but different muscles got sore on both arms. i gotta do this more often.
next experiment will be with my walther ppk which has the locked barrel. hoping for better shot grouping.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:11 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did
50 round through each hand?
Wow, that must have hurt. You're pretty tough.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:10 PM (bgJ0E)
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Well we're pulling for you!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:13 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: gp at August 11, 2019 07:13 PM (mk9aG)
.22 sig. did fairly well, improved as I got to the end of 100 rounds
Glock 19. Did well, most inside the nine. 100 rounds
Glock 42. Most inside nine or ten. 50 rounds
1911. 7 in ten range.
Very interesting day. Mark was, as usual so helpful and patient.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:14 PM (PkVlr)
Posted by: gp at August 11, 2019 07:13 PM (mk9aG)
All day every day.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 11, 2019 07:14 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 11, 2019 07:15 PM (kQs4Y)
.22 sig. did fairly well, improved as I got to the end of 100 rounds
Glock 19. Did well, most inside the nine. 100 rounds
Glock 42. Most inside nine or ten. 50 rounds
1911. 7 in ten range.
Very interesting day. Mark was, as usual so helpful and patient.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:14 PM (PkVlr)
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OK! Good job. Did it begin to feel less weird to shoot with one hand?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:15 PM (MVjcR)
I went to a lot of time and expense to get a CCW in Connecicut and I haven't carried nor bought a pistol. I've had the permit about three months. Now I'm moving to New Jersey.
So pretty much all the money I have is wrapped up in the move and I can't grab the gun of my dreams before I leave the state, but I've gone to all the trouble to get legal and god knows what New Jersey is going to be like.
There are a couple of little .380s for $150. Easy to conceal, but there's no concealed carry in NJ. Should I get one because I can?
The next gun I should get to fill out my stable is a .357 mag. There's one at a good price but I think it's mislabeled as it's next to a .38 spl that looks identical and it doesn't look robust enough to be a mag.
There are a bunch of .380s and 9mms from $250 down. Should I get one just to get one? I can get one now, is the draw, not that that's what I want.
If I go .38 spl will I regret missing out on the manliness of a .357 mag?
(For background, I have a 1911 for the cool factor. Next should be practical).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:16 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Vn Redleg at August 11, 2019 07:18 PM (ulOH4)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (MVjcR)
Thanks, I have a strategy to follow that opsec and persec prevent me from revealing but if it all goes well I will not be impacted, but no guarantees. The po po have screwed themselves here for a generation and they have not yet realized it. All the detail has come directly from their National HQ and the UN 2030 compact. I have been saying for over a decade the politician is just a long way of spelling c**t, now have to add the filth to the list.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:19 PM (bgJ0E)
did a little one-handed shooting with my new Heritage Rough Rider
first time I had shot it; I am impressed for a approx.$110 pistol, it functions as advertised & is a riot to shoot
I'm thinking about getting the .22 Mag cylinder for it. I've never shot .22 Mag, what's it like?
Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
at the cursed ancient Ind at August 11, 2019 07:19 PM (KCxzN)
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All things considered, since you have the 1911, I'd wait and put the money toward a nice .357 Magnum. That's just me.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:20 PM (MVjcR)
thought I had fixed the nick thingie
Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
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in Chelsea, MI
at August 11, 2019 07:20 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:21 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: AltonJackson
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Crazy loud with almost no recoil. It's surprising, and fun!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:22 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 07:23 PM (tU+8E)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 11, 2019 07:23 PM (BiNEL)
I'd say save the money for a lawyer but even that is useless there.
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:23 PM (BbGew)
Buy the .357 Mag.
The versatility is unmatched. You can go from bunny-fart .38 target rounds, all the way up to Cor-Bon or Buffalo Bore "gonna hurtcha" rounds.
And everything in between.
Bonus: When you master the double action revolver trigger, everything else becomes surprisingly easy.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 07:24 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 07:23 PM (tU+8E)
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Around here I see people driving and using their phone all the time!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:24 PM (MVjcR)
I'm thinking about getting the .22 Mag cylinder for it. I've never shot .22 Mag, what's it like?
Posted by: AltonJackson
What Mr Weasel said, plus with the new ammo available now more accurate.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:24 PM (bgJ0E)
I think I can't afford one. The question is whether to buy a lesser gun just to get something out of my remaining legal window.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:26 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2019 07:27 PM (LxTcq)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:28 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: Weasel
It did! Actually, it felt pretty good. I wasn't nearly as intimidated as I was last week. And the .22 sig was far less awkward to fire one handed than the .22 Ruger.
My glock 42 is quite easy to fire one handed. and it will be my carry gun when I get confidant enough to do that sort of thing.
Bander,
I have an S&W .357 Magnum. I love it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:28 PM (PkVlr)
Next up was my 1970 AR-180 by Howa. Japanese! I was able find a quick detach scope mount for it and attached a Leupold 1.5-5 scope on her, which barely fit. Zeroed it at 25 yards and it has no problem hitting steel out to 400 yards before I had to dial up to hit at 500-600 yards. Too easy to hit what your aiming at with this set up. The quick detach was made by StormWerkz and it worked flawlessly. Good people and check out their website as they make lots of goodies.
https://stormwerkz.com/
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 07:28 PM (Z+IKu)
Ever fire a BM59?
Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 07:29 PM (S/rwf)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:30 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:30 PM (fuK7c)
The HK VP9 has little bunny ears on the rear slide serration that are really helpful for this. They're pretty useful even if you're just operating the pistol normally.
https://stoatnet.org/vp9slide.jpg
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:30 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 07:32 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: Panhandler
Yes. On the bipod OK , offhand rubbish. I have expressed my dislike for the M14 and by default Garand system. I have them (currently) but they are pigs of rifles. Also Not machine guns.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:32 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:33 PM (PkVlr)
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:33 PM (BbGew)
Shot one handed today, like almost every day at the range, most all stayed in the 8 ring at the typical 12-15 foot distance.
Shooting Buddy and I have, with practice gotten all draws under the 3 second mark, from whatever carry, this is good.
I need to do more of the nickel-on-barrel dry fire myself, I notice a tendency to shoot straight on, but low (from the long DAO pull) creeping back in on both the j-frame and the P290.
Shooting Buddy was getting fairly consistent failure-to-eject on the 2nd or 3rd round from his Ruger LCP .380 with Winchester flat nosed FMJ ammo; we didn't have anything else to try, so inconclusive, he will pick up some different kinds this week & we will see if that helps. Any thoughts from the HordeMind ?
I think that's about it; thanks as always, Weasel !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 07:34 PM (LpklP)
I did get some one-handed shooting in, both dominant and off hand. Grouping wasn't great, but I didn't put anything outside the 9, which I was fairly happy with considering I hadn't gotten any one-handed shooting practice in a long time. Certainly something to work on.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:36 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:26 PM (fuK7c)
Is it possible for you to live in PA, and commute to work in NJ?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2019 07:36 PM (abNpZ)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:36 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 07:34 PM (LpklP)
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You're welcome!! 2nd or 3rd round, eh? I've had flat nose that refused to feed reliably no matter what I did, so for me the fix was as easy as switching to ball.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:37 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:37 PM (PkVlr)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Uncle Si at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (F7vOh)
That was my plan and for that reason but I'm going to be a state employee and they insist on me living in NJ. I will be in the NW corner where it's not awful but it's still NJ laws.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:39 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: gp at August 11, 2019 07:39 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (q9nin)
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How are you my friend?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:28 PM (bgJ0E)
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this idiot on Twatter keeps telling me how easy it is to make a sillyvillian go full auto, by just removing one bit of metal.
i'm thinking he means full, run away, auto, but i still think it's gonna take more than that, or ATF would never have approved the design.
what say you?
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (SXMRB)
hey Ben Had
Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 07:41 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: Uncle Si at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (F7vOh)
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Try incorporating it into your regular range routine. It does take some getting used to!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:41 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (PkVlr)
likewise, Ben Had
Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (KCxzN)
default Garand system. I have them (currently) but they are pigs of
rifles. Also Not machine guns.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:32 PM (bgJ0E)
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BURN THE HERETIC!
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (UUkQp)
If I go .38 spl will I regret missing out on the manliness of a .357 mag?
No. 38+p make enough bang at range. Since you won't be able to carry it anywhere. Buy it before moving to NJ.
You should have moved to the PA side of the water gap.
Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (bk3t/)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (SXMRB)
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That was my first reaction, but he is from the southern hemisphere, so we need to make allowances.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (MVjcR)
We have worked out the logistics for hogmartin and AltonJackson to go on the hog hunt.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot
I think that means your left hand is a gangster.
Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (P1f+c)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (q9nin)
Aw thanks, it was nice talking with you too.
I'm a little disheartened to hear about the stagecoach airport shuttle thing, if I'm being honest.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2019 07:45 PM (bk3t/)
We have worked out the logistics for hogmartin and AltonJackson to go on the hog hunt.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (q9nin)
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Nice! It's going to be a jamboree-hootenanny!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:46 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (MVjcR)
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fine: we'll use JP-4 and shaved C-4 for the fuel, so it's quick.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:46 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:47 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:47 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (MVjcR)
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fine: we'll use JP-4 and shaved C-4 for the fuel, so it's quick.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:46 PM (SXMRB)
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Since he's our only pal from NZ, I think we should keep him around and maybe adopt him.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:48 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:47 PM (q9nin)
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reactive targets are SO k3wl!
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:48 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:50 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:47 PM (q9nin)
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reactive targets are SO k3wl!
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:48 PM (SXMRB)
*BANG*
MOOOOOO!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:50 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Vn Redleg
Download, maybe a tight sling strap setup
Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2019 07:51 PM (bk3t/)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:51 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Assface at August 11, 2019 07:51 PM (OKp8N)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 11, 2019 07:52 PM (2DOZq)
Get what you can, while you can, it will be way better than being empty handed.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 07:52 PM (LpklP)
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:10 PM (t+qrx)
I'll be taking my Heritage out for the first time tomorrow morning, if I can get my hiney out of bed.
I need significant practice the next couple months, or I'm gonna embarrass myself at CenTexMoMee.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at August 11, 2019 07:52 PM (jY2kO)
Open chamber, one round, load and shoot a moving balloon in 10 sec.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (xSo9G)
what say you?
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (SXMRB)
OK. I presume that you are referring about the AR platform rifles (again not a machine gun) and turning a semi auto into full auto. Nope cannot happen, unless you have the following, full auto bolt carrier, full auto selector switch, full auto disconnector, full auto hammer, full auto trigger, lower receiver machined to a accept full auto trigger. Also unless to have a drop in full auto sear , you need a full auto sear, sear spring, sear pin with correct sear pin holes drilled into the lower receiver. So your twitter idiot is an idiot. You can have a worn semi auto sear or disconnector that may double (fire two rds for one trigger pull) occasionally but that's it.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:32 PM (bgJ0E)
Hi NZFrank! One of my unicorn guns I am always on the look out for is a Leader Dynamics T2 Mk5 made in Australia back in the good old days.
You ever see one of them in your neck of the woods?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (Z+IKu)
For your files:
14 Reloading Presses Compared: the BIG Single-Stage Shootout gavintoobe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqcYI0G2hqM
There's a link to his site, where he has the data collected from his tests. List price and Street price are included.
The TIR (Total Indicated Runout, a measure of concentricity) measurements (there are 3 of them) are, I think, the most important data, as getting the bullet axis and case axis aligned with each other and with the barrel bore (parallel AND as close to being colinear as possible) greatly affect accuracy, certainly for rifles.
I suspect this does not matter for pistols at all, except possibly for match shooting. The $68 Lee press might then make sense for most pistols.
The Prazi press ($950) is, I suspect, included only for comparison.
and
What You Need to Start Reloading Rifle Ammunition - a Walkthrough gavintoobe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rDppDH1IN4
Worth watching.
Posted by: Arbalest at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (bmdz3)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (fuK7c)
I wonder if you could form a corporation, with a NJ corp. address, and contract that NJ-domiciled corp. to the State. and then the corp. hires PA domiciled Bander to do the teaching?
Or could you get a residence-of-record in NJ, and a "lake cottage" in PA?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (abNpZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (Xhp1L)
Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (S/rwf)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:55 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: butch at August 11, 2019 07:55 PM (hXu8T)
mom is on her 3rd or 4th ghost dog. She keeps them shaved so the Texas heat doesn't bug them too much and provides a kiddie pool that the whole damned pack lounges in for cooling off. She uses a horse watering system to keep the level at around six inches so the terriers can relax as well as the big dogs. Her two geriatric arabs (i SWEAR those two horses think they're dogs too) try to join the dogs but the pool has a split rail fence to keep them out.
Speaking of the horses, they've raised about 14 years worth of feral pigs. At dusk, they head down to the bottoms near the creek and the pig herd comes out. The babies all gather around the horses while the adults graze in the tall grass. The horses keep the coyotes away from the babies. When i visit, i leave the horses in the barn after evening feeding and slip down to my favorite cottonwood for some piggy meat.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot
Mom's place is just south of Regan,Tx off highway 6. good Piggy hunting, what part of heaven are you three hunting in?
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:56 PM (VcFUs)
I'm thinking of getting a SIG P365, which luckily can be rented at our local range. Any thoughts from shooters / owners?
Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 11, 2019 07:56 PM (k3g2v)
If it was me that doesn't know doodly and squat, I'd pick a shotgun
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:57 PM (q9nin)
Get what you can, while you can, it will be way better than being empty handed.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365
Thanks. That's the sort of answer I was looking for. I think I said I can't afford the .357 and a half dozen people helpfully suggested I get the .357.
.38 is looking good now.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:57 PM (fuK7c)
Had to drive across town to go to the other one. Lexington is an odd place. Usually most cities have distinct regions. Lexington, you go from downtown to old industrial, to stately homes far off the road with huge lawns, to new construction. You can pass from bad to good to bad to good again in like 5 miles.
Also, Polliwog, from the previous thread, all the best to you and the Inspector.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 07:58 PM (ycWCI)
Diky.
Posted by: Pod Hamp at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (RBFmA)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (SXMRB)
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That was my first reaction, but he is from the southern hemisphere, so we need to make allowances.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (MVjcR)
Weeeell, that's because you Septics have never had the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR. In comparison all other rifles are revealed as the junk they are. Gods Own Rifle is so powerful that Mother Gaia winces every time a UD occurs. Enemy targets do not spin and fall went hit, they cease to exist and are removed to another dimension.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bmdz3)
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:00 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 11, 2019 08:00 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2019 08:01 PM (WMNHl)
...45 LC...
Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM
I'm listenin'
always wanted a revolver in 45LC
after shooting the Heritage Rough Rider (in .22LR); I really want the same pistol in 45LC
Posted by: AltonJackson
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Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:02 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (k3g2v)
Hi NZFrank! One of my unicorn guns I am always on the look out for is a Leader Dynamics T2 Mk5 made in Australia back in the good old days.
You ever see one of them in your neck of the woods?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (Z+IKu)
The semi versions are around, but now Prohibited firearms unless on a C license. Not well thought of as shooters, but they work and go bang. Interesting things as they are lets say , different. Going rate was around $1800 NZ at auction.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)
Aka a 'FAL'?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)
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oh yeah? Well at least our water drains the right way!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:04 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:04 PM (n0wlE)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:04 PM (ycWCI)
I turn onto highway 14 when i pass through there enroute to Regan. Next time i head that way, I'll give you a shout. Would enjoy meeting you if schedules align.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 08:06 PM (VcFUs)
I don't know. I was hoping the Dildo would be here.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:07 PM (fuK7c)
Now I just have to show maturity and patience until it arrives. Maturity sucks! I want it now.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:08 PM (bmdz3)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:08 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)
Aka a 'FAL'?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (ycWCI)
Are you some sort of communist? The metric version of Gods Own Rifle is an offence against man , time and all the gods. The inch pattern is the only acceptable one for proper people on the planet.It is written, it is know.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:08 PM (bgJ0E)
Most of the year my CC piece is a .38 snubbie, and I fire standard loads, not +P.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (LpklP)
SE Cupp Unfiltered@UnfilteredSE
It's time to act on guns. @secupp says, "I'll be accused of letting my emotions get in the way of facts here . . . it should be more emotional. And to my friends in the Republican party, at the NRA, on the side of gun rights, if you're not emotional about this, join me, won't you?"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (aKsyK)
Ad on Ace's page beneath this thread:
"Forrest Gump producers reveal how Jenny really died."
Well duh. She tried to hold up a gun store.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (L2ZTs)
oh yeah? Well at least our water drains the right way!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:04 PM (MVjcR)
You have water?? What are these drains of which you speak?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:10 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 08:10 PM (VcFUs)
*******__*__********
Yeah that was part of it when I qualified in 1973, also Navy. I scored sharpshooter. Just missed expert.
Posted by: Cosda at August 11, 2019 08:11 PM (tMKcD)
worn semi auto sear or disconnector that may double (fire two rds for
one trigger pull) occasionally but that's it.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (bgJ0E)
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and that tracks with what i thought. danke.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:11 PM (SXMRB)
you Septics have never had the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR.
Are we Germy?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (aKsyK)
Wee secret, Yank = septic tank. Cockney rhyming slang.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:12 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:13 PM (q9nin)
the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR. In comparison all
other rifles are revealed as the junk they are. Gods Own Rifle is so
powerful that Mother Gaia winces every time a UD occurs. Enemy targets
do not spin and fall went hit, they cease to exist and are removed to
another dimension.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)
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we have one of those...
and an Aussie HB version as well...(L1A2?)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:13 PM (SXMRB)
im gonna need a bigger canoe.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:14 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:14 PM (MVjcR)
Mentioned in dispatches!
Posted by: Waepnedmann at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (pjQJE)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (q9nin)
SE Cupp Unfiltered@UnfilteredSE
It's time to act on guns. @secupp says, "I'll be accused of letting my emotions get in the way of facts here . . . it should be more emotional. And to my friends in the Republican party, at the NRA, on the side of gun rights, if you're not emotional about this, join me, won't you?"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
I'm no rocket scientist, but that sure doesn't sound very "libertarian" to me.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (F0auO)
Then the banshees will be wailing for registration. Hundreds of thousands of weapons will fall out of canoes, prolly raising water levels to catastrophic heights and inundating all the polar bears or Manhattan or something.
Posted by: dad29 at August 11, 2019 08:16 PM (7Kti7)
Posted by: Archer
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I did not make it to the range this week. Tomorrow though for sure - I've reserved a lane.
For a $40 a month membership I get unlimited range time both weekdays and weekends. I can take a guest for free. Also free firearm rentals if I want to try something out.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2019 08:16 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: butch at August 11, 2019 08:16 PM (hXu8T)
Hickok45 reviews the Heritage Rough Rider
https://tinyurl.com/y34qykpa
cereal, go get one of these pistols. I paid $108 thru Cheaper Than Dirt; some one said last week they saw them for $99 somewhere
I may actually get a second one, for the obvious reasons
Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (KCxzN)
Mentioned in dispatches!
Posted by: Waepnedmann at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (pjQJE)
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Yeah man! Appreciate the recommendation. I really like the chest rig.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (MVjcR)
The response is very simple: What "law" could you have passed that could've possibly stopped the leftist shooters in El Paso and Dayton?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (F0auO)
Top loading magazine with en-bloc clips is a 19th century solution to a problem that every other military on earth had solved a generation prior with detachable box mags or internal mags and stripper clips. You can't top it off, it's hard to reload one-handed without a lot of practice, and it's got fiddly springs and latches that hold the clip until they don't, hopefully when they're supposed to. The only reason loading the clip itself in a hurry didn't turn out to be a problem is that they were made on the order of numbers with many zeroes after them, pre-loaded at the factory and shipped out to troops that way. The op-rod is a huge stonking mass of reciprocating metal that cycles along the length of the rifle every single time it's fired, off the horizontal axis. If it's in any way out of true from its factory shape, it will short cycle or fail to extract. And every time it's fired, it's blasted with corrosive compounds from the beginning of the war until at least the mid 1940s - no idea when the stock of corrosive ammo was finally rotated out. The top-loading receiver means you can't mount a scope in any useful way without losing the cheek weld, and you have to rig it hilariously off-center to keep spent brass from bouncing off the lens.
The sights are really nice, though. I think the Enfield rifles were the only other standard rifles that had sights half as nice as the Garand.
It's a nice gun that didn't have a peer in the world at that time that could be fielded in those numbers, but it's not magic.
*pauses*
*clicks Post*
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (q9nin) "
Yes !
This !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 08:18 PM (LpklP)
"You'll prevent murder-by-guns by passing a law just like you'll prevent hurricanes by passing a law."
--Shih Tzu
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:18 PM (F0auO)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (bgJ0E)
Great! Thanks and stay strong.
Don't let the bastards wear you down.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 08:19 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 11, 2019 08:19 PM (yQpMk)
His drums held 100 rounds
Is it possible to pull the trigger that many times while holding an accurate aim ?
Posted by: Kurt at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (WjvGD)
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we have one of those...
and an Aussie HB version as well...(L1A2?)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:13 PM (SXMRB)
It would have a US made receiver nes pa? I do have the L2A1 real deal full auto HB with magazine chest, spare parts and the rare as rocking horse shit wooden transit chest. Also the L4 Bren 7.62mm with the rare (only one left on the planet rare) transit chest and all goodies, but thats fo another time.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (F0auO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (ycWCI)
The price for a new 45 Colt SA can go from about 350.00 to over 700. Both Uberti and Pietta offer fixed sight 45 Colt revolvers and they get good reviews. If you want something to hand down to your grandchildren, look at the Ruger Vaquero or Blackhawk.
If you go for one, try to handle as many models as possible. Grip shape and barrel length can make a big difference on what feels comfortable.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (bmdz3)
That became illegal in Illinois as of 7/1/19. Since I'm from Wisconsin, at some point in time I'll forget and get hauled over.
Posted by: dad29 at August 11, 2019 08:21 PM (7Kti7)
*pauses*
*clicks Post*
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)
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says a guy who puts carrots in his chili. you probably like 9mms too.
we're gonna need a bigger bonfire, Weasel!
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:21 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Neal Peart at August 11, 2019 08:22 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (bmdz3)
I still say the Ruger Vaquero Bisley (they still make them, but only in stainless from what I can find) is one of the best feeling handguns I have ever... handled.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (ycWCI)
It's a nice gun that didn't have a peer in the world at that time that could be fielded in those numbers, but it's not magic.
*pauses*
*clicks Post*
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)
This guy, he gets it!
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)
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yeah, i believe it is... something about importing foreign receivers, especially full auto ones.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (xInes)
Posted by: Cosda at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (tMKcD)
says a guy who puts carrots in his chili. you probably like 9mms too.
we're gonna need a bigger bonfire, Weasel!
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:21 PM (SXMRB)
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But just look at how diverse we are in our opinions!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:24 PM (29Nrd)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)
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in the neck.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:24 PM (SXMRB)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 08:25 PM (UUkQp)
*pauses*
*clicks Post*
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)
But you can top it off.
Just ask Bloke on the Range....and he's English!
M1 Things that just ain't so....
https://tinyurl.com/y56jquv4
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 08:25 PM (Z+IKu)
im gonna need a bigger canoe.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:14 PM (SXMRB)
The FAL is a thing of fucking beauty.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (9Om/r)
Carrots in the chili guy is BCochran. It's enshrined in our Book.
http://bit.ly/2Tr1zbM
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)
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in the neck.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:24 PM (SXMRB)
More of a throat punch fan myself.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (JHQ5S)
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (JHQ5S)
Good work. Keep it up.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (bgJ0E)
Interesting.
While watching, an exercise thought (I know) popped into the concrete cerebellum:
->seated with elbow at side, fingers together and pointed at ceiling, curl last three fingers while the index finger remains perfectly pointing at the ceiling.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (JHQ5S)
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Good for you! How'd you like the class?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (29Nrd)
Posted by: Aetius451AD"
Agreed. But I got my Vaquero second hand at a really good price so I decided the Bisley grip wasn't worth the extra bucks. If I were to go for another one, it would be the Bisley model.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:29 PM (bmdz3)
http://bit.ly/2Tr1zbM
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (fuK7c)
I figured it was just a handy insult in Olde Hordeish.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:31 PM (t+qrx)
193 I went to my Well-Armed Woman class Friday night and we had drills
where we shot with one hand, with both our dominant and weak hand. I'm
pretty good with my dominant hand (right) but pull way to the right when
I shoot left handed. Went to the range with hubs and son today and
practiced a bit more.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (JHQ5S)
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Good for you! How'd you like the class?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (29Nrd)
Oh it's great, I highly recommend to any 'ettes. I've been going for about a year now. We have a class with a different topic every month, then range time with different drills. My favorite class topic so far was when the Walter rep came and let us try like 10 different guns.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:31 PM (JHQ5S)
Good for you! How'd you like the class?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (29Nrd)
Oh it's great, I highly recommend to any 'ettes. I've been going for about a year now. We have a class with a different topic every month, then range time with different drills. My favorite class topic so far was when the Walter rep came and let us try like 10 different guns.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:31 PM (JHQ5S)
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Very nice! Let us know if you have any unusual drills or particular training you find helpful.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:34 PM (29Nrd)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 08:34 PM (aKsyK)
insofar as a P365 seems to be a double-stack P290A, I think it should be just fine - I carry a P290 (not A) right now because it seems a little less sticky-outey under a t-shirt than the j-frame.
When the 356 gets a little cheaper I will probably buy one.
my old 290 (probably traded in by someone buying a 365) has a hammer strike on the light side, had a few failures on hard-primered Russian steel case stuff; when I started to use normal ammo, zero problem over the several hundred rounds I fired to make it a carry-with-confidence piece.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 08:35 PM (LpklP)
Do you wear ear protection for "Action Shooters Group" aka tactical practice?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 08:34 PM (aKsyK)
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That's a good question - I'd be surprised if it wasn't required.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:36 PM (29Nrd)
Just ask Bloke on the Range....and he's English!
M1 Things that just ain't so....
https://tinyurl.com/y56jquv4
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 08:25 PM (Z+IKu)
I hadn't ever seen that done before. Having seen it, I concede that point, though I maintain that it's more cumbersome than using a stripper clip or swapping a detachable magazine. It's only necessary to use both hands because of the odd insistence on an en-bloc top-loader with an internal magazine.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:36 PM (t+qrx)
It's time to act on guns. @secupp says, "I'll be accused of letting my emotions get in the way of facts here . . . it should be more emotional. And to my friends in the Republican party, at the NRA, on the side of gun rights, if you're not emotional about this, join me, won't you?"
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So you're saying that people should constantly be afraid of being shot by black people?
Because that's what emotion gives you.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 11, 2019 08:36 PM (A8W5E)
Very nice! Let us know if you have any unusual drills or particular training you find helpful.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:34 PM (29Nrd) "
Seconded !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 08:37 PM (LpklP)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:39 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:39 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:39 PM (bgJ0E)
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Good night and give the kitty a scratch on the chin for me. Hang tough, bro5her.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:41 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:42 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2019 08:43 PM (PwY6a)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)
Hmmm. I say the European. One, more actors involved on various sides. Two, more hypothetical what ifs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:43 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:42 PM (q9nin)
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Any particular reasons? Specific battles or adversaries?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:43 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:36 PM (t+qrx)
I didn't know either till I saw the Bloke's video a couple of years ago.
If you practice what he shows in the video, you can get good and quick at it which I think lots of our GI's in WW2 and Korea could do no problem.
He also dispels the "ping" myth in another video I believe.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 08:45 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)
They might as well be different wars. One doesn't interest me any more than the other.
One thing that I am curious about is whether after VE day, troops were anxious about being sent to the Pacific because come on you assholes, we just defeated Nazi f'ng Germany, can we just go home now, or because the they felt that they were being sent to a worse conflict than they'd just won. That is, what did troops in one theater think about the other?
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:45 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (PwY6a)
Archer asked upthread about costs; our range is $125 per year for my husband and myself and we can shoot whenever we want. My Well-Armed Woman classes are $10 each, to cover target costs and such.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (JHQ5S)
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True. Very different wars. Interesting point regarding the troops.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (MVjcR)
I'm trying not to think too much about what will happen in the Senate since, as you now, both our senators are shit. The idea that they deal with law breakers instead of infringing on the rights of innocent citizens would never occur to the bastards.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:48 PM (bmdz3)
Archer asked upthread about costs; our range is $125 per year for my husband and myself and we can shoot whenever we want. My Well-Armed Woman classes are $10 each, to cover target costs and such.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (JHQ5S)
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Very reasonable! And that is a good drill.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:50 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 08:50 PM (UUkQp)
(For background, I have a 1911 for the cool factor. Next should be practical).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:16 PM (fuK7c)
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The classic answer is: it depends.
By that I mean, if you are getting a snub-nosed pocket revolver, .38 spl is fine.
The only reason I'd go with .357 is if you are getting something with at least a four-inch barrel.
Caliber matters less than shot placement. No point in having a hand-howitzer if its noise and recoil make you miss.
I challenge anyone here to name a situation where an armed citizen was unable to stop a crime because his weapon didn't have enough horsepower - that is to say, the shots hit center mass, but couldn't get enough penetration to drop the perp.
I used to follow these stories all the time, and I never came across a single case of it happening.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 08:51 PM (cfSRQ)
I'm trying not to think too much about what will happen in the Senate since, as you now, both our senators are shit. The idea that they deal with law breakers instead of infringing on the rights of innocent citizens would never occur to the bastards.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:48 PM (bmdz3)
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Man, no kidding!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:51 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 11, 2019 08:51 PM (k3g2v)
I'm sitting here thinking: I'll bet there are lots of leftists out there, you know, Kurt's pals, who are thinking about doing a shooting to help the Gun Control issue move forward.
And then I see this: A Leftist Wanker Walks Into A WalMart And Asks An Employee For A Gun That Can Kill 200 People. Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZmMEuAq0_Q
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:53 PM (F0auO)
They have completed the autopsy on Juan Epstein, but are delaying announcing the results:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7347339
Again, no video footage of inside the cell to see what happened.
Also, Dr. Michael Baden, a celebrity Quincy you've probably seen on the TV, was called in to "observe" the autopsy. He didn't do anything, just observed.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 11, 2019 08:53 PM (f1Vqw)
or because the they felt that they were being sent to a worse conflict
than they'd just won. That is, what did troops in one theater think
about the other?
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:45 PM (t+qrx)
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The ETO troops were ready to be done with the whole thing.
Some of the brass were excited about further opportunities for glory, but I never came across anyone who fought their way across Germany and were looking forward to doing the same in Japan.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 08:54 PM (cfSRQ)
Virginia used to be such a nice state, then...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 11, 2019 08:54 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM
Agreed. I must add one to the collection eventually.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2019 08:54 PM (rBtIz)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (WEBkv)
I'll tell what the cause of death was, Sam. It was murder. Cold-blooded, calculating murrrrrrrdeeeeeer.
Posted by: Dr. Quincy at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (f1Vqw)
probably seen on the TV, was called in to "observe" the autopsy. He
didn't do anything, just observed.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 11, 2019 08:53 PM (f1Vqw)
Junior Mint?
Posted by: Jerry at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (O9EVq)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (WEBkv)
The definition of Terrorism is an act of violence for the purpose of forcing political change.
Kurt's pals would have no problem shooting up lots of people if helps "gun control" get enacted.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (F0auO)
The Holocaust is a real biggy for me.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (q9nin)
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Yep. Hard to imagine living through that.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:56 PM (MVjcR)
The Pacific was a bunch of islands we'd never heard of. Oh, we need to learn what a Tarawa is because there's this grand island hopping strategy to make sure that oil can still get to New Zealand or something.
Both theaters were horrific fighting, but Europe has more cultural resonance.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)
Jerry wasn't real big on Banzai charges on moonless nights.
I'm thinkin' the Garand, M-1 Carbine, Thompson and Grease Gun made a game-changing difference in the Pacific, most of all.
Breaking the back of the Banzai charges was a huge thing. The Japanese had to have been dismayed, dispirited and dumbfounded that their
Gyokusai wasn't so all-powerful, after all.
Not that the Garand didn't make a difference in Europe, too. Patton's quote about the rifle showcases it perfectly: "In my opinion, the M-1 rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised."
Even with it's admitted flaws, it's quantities in issue proved a quality all of it's own.
Perfect? No. But it worked, and worked well when oh-so-many earlier or different designs, hadn't, or didn't still.
But yeah. It made the biggest difference in the Pacific, and without it, too many of those Banzai charges would have succeeded.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 08:57 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 08:54 PM (cfSRQ)
Well if VJ day had come first, surely the troops in the Pacific would have rather gone home than get shipped to Europe too. I was wondering more if a hypothetical opportunity came up to leave one theater and be reassigned to another - same division, say, with all your buddies - if troops in one theater thought the other was better or worse. Or what they thought of it at all.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:58 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 08:50 PM (UUkQp)
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The M1 is kind of chunky!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM (MVjcR)
(For background, I have a 1911 for the cool factor. Next should be practical).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:16 PM (fuK7c)
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Bander, you can shoot 38 special out of a 357. As I think I've mentioned before, I have a snub nose revolver that is a nightmare to shoot with 357 loads, but a dream to shoot with 38 special +P.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks, blake!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)
The dudes in the CBI region were in some seriously miserable conditions.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (9Om/r)
The Pacific was a bunch of islands we'd never heard of. Oh, we need
to learn what a Tarawa is because there's this grand island hopping
strategy to make sure that oil can still get to New Zealand or
something.
Both theaters were horrific fighting, but Europe has more cultural resonance.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)
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Fun fact: Godzilla was originally about the spirits of Japan's war dead.
Yes, yes, the nuclear tests were what woke the beast, but if it was really a manifestation of Gaia's anger, it would have gone after the US.
No, Gojira was really about how so many Japanese soldiers, sailors and airmen died in the South Pacific, fighting to the death and then the people in the Home Islands not only surrendered, but submitted to foreign rule. The film came out when Japan was starting to recover and prosperity was returning and that was why the monster had to wreck everything they'd rebuilt: they betrayed the spirits of those who fought for them.
Food for thought.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM
This is true, but it's a thing of freakin' beauty.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (rBtIz)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (UUkQp)
The Pacific was a bunch of islands we'd never heard of. Oh, we need to learn what a Tarawa is because there's this grand island hopping strategy to make sure that oil can still get to New Zealand or something.
Both theaters were horrific fighting, but Europe has more cultural resonance.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)
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Interesting. And very good point.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:01 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:02 PM (fuK7c)
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Did not know that! Thanks, A.H. Lloyd.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:04 PM (MVjcR)
the Pacific would have rather gone home than get shipped to Europe too. I
was wondering more if a hypothetical opportunity came up to leave one
theater and be reassigned to another - same division, say, with all your
buddies - if troops in one theater thought the other was better or
worse. Or what they thought of it at all.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:58 PM (t+qrx)
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I don't think people ever got a choice - certainly not on the grunt level.
The ETO was the Army's war, and that included Big Air Force.
The Pacific was owned by the Navy, with the Army playing second fiddle and the USAAF only providing long-range bombing late in the game.
To put it another way, if you enlisted in the Marines, you knew you were going west. The Army? Mostly Europe. The Navy? Mostly the Pacific.
It was pretty widely known btw that the Pacific was a "dirty" war. No sight-seeing, grateful French or Italian girls waiting for you, just sand, malaria and Japanese bullets.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:04 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM
This is true, but it's a thing of freakin' beauty.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (rBtIz)
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*fistbump*
How many of you that own Garands also have bayonets?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:05 PM (MVjcR)
The dudes in the CBI region were in some seriously miserable conditions.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
What is (was) CBI?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:06 PM (aKsyK)
What is (was) CBI?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:06 PM (aKsyK)
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China Burma India.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:56 PM (VcFUs)
Oh gosh, sorry, I overlooked this. We'll be roughly 1/4 along the way from Dallas to Houston.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (t+qrx)
It was pretty widely known btw that the Pacific was a "dirty" war. No sight-seeing, grateful French or Italian girls waiting for you, just sand, malaria and Japanese bullets.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
And no cold weather.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:06 PM
China Burma India theater.
Posted by: Bert G at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (OMsf+)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:09 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:09 PM (UUkQp)
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Yeah, no kidding!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:09 PM (MVjcR)
I managed to get the period correct bayonets for the M1s I have, trick was finding a WWII bayonet that wasn't a cut down WWI model. Camping out at CMP South also helped.
Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 09:10 PM (S/rwf)
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2019 09:11 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:05 PM (MVjcR)
I have the Model 1905 and the M1 Bayonet (1943?).
Both fit tight but shake rattle and roll when you shoot the rifle.
The M1905 is like a sword, very long, while the M1 is shorter.
They also fit my 1903 Springfields.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:12 PM (Z+IKu)
I managed to get the period correct bayonets for the M1s I have, trick was finding a WWII bayonet that wasn't a cut down WWI model. Camping out at CMP South also helped.
Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 09:10 PM (S/rwf)
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Yep. I have a few and at one time thought about collecting them. I like seeing the names from conversion of peacetime industry to wartime production. Singer, Rock-Ola, Union Fork and Hoe, to name a few.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:13 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (aKsyK)
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Yes, and lots of exciting tropical diseases and the delightful "jungle rot" that exactly no one wanted.
The guys in the ETO were at least dealing with places they'd heard of, and maybe wanted to visit. My grandfather was a navigator on the cross-Atlantic supply routes (think B-17s turned into cargo haulers with no guns).
They did a brisk business in smuggled liquor and nylons and I'm told that he thoroughly enjoyed his visit to Paris (a curious notation in his flight log references "B.J." who I assume was a close friend).
I doubt the night club scene in liberated Saipan or Guadalcanal was comparable.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:13 PM (cfSRQ)
Because the M1903 is a short rifle. They didn't want to be on the short end of a spear fight with the Hun.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 11, 2019 09:14 PM (yQpMk)
Yep. I have a few and at one time thought about collecting them. I like seeing the names from conversion of peacetime industry to wartime production. Singer, Rock-Ola, Union Fork and Hoe, to name a few.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:13 PM (MVjcR)
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And I meant that in general - not just bayonets!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:14 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 11, 2019 09:15 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:05 PM (MVjcR)
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Only have a bayonet for the SMLE.
Looks like a tent peg. Good for sticking and not much else.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:16 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:16 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)
Ouch. I'm suprised you can still type.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 11, 2019 09:16 PM (z79tQ)
https://t.co/EroGGbGHMs
White House Asks Gun-Rights Leader for Input on Shooting Response
https://t.co/YchZgWg1WA
Interview with Alan Gottlieb Part 1
National gun-rights advocate offers winning advice
https://t.co/QHM8Xg7dAO
Posted by: David at August 11, 2019 09:17 PM (jY1B4)
collecting them. I like seeing the names from conversion of peacetime
industry to wartime production. Singer, Rock-Ola, Union Fork and Hoe,
to name a few.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:13 PM (MVjcR)
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Those command a premium. I'm not a fan of 1911s, don't own one, but maybe one day I'll get one, but it will have to be something interesting, like that.
BTW, didn't get to the range this week, still waiting for the Mauser to return from its refit.
My current project is figuring out a re-assembly assist on the damn Dreyse. The Webley casing takes it down nice, but putting it back together is a cast-iron bitch. I need some yankee ingenuity to come up with a way to do this that doesn't break my thumb and send the bushing bouncing around the room when the spring gets loose.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:17 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:17 PM (A9A9H)
Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:17 PM (A9A9H)
Zebco fishing reels?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:19 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:19 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 11, 2019 09:14 PM (yQpMk)
Yup....it's like they had bayonet envy.
The Japs were the worst.....the bayonets for my Type 38 and 99 are so long it's embarrassing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:20 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:20 PM (A9A9H)
That is, he's making a show of considering gun restrictions, but he'll also demand that illegals that break the law will be instantly deported.
And the Dems will refuse to go for it, because they love illegals.
Anyone remember the shut down six months ago, and how people thought Trump was going to cave on some sort of amnesty for a wall?
Same game. Worked then, will work now.
But to sell it, he has to seem serious and the gun people have to go nuts, proving what a thoughtful, centrist he is.
In the end, Pelosi will be explaining that just because you break a gun law isn't reason to deport you...
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:20 PM (cfSRQ)
Thinking of a new hobby and I think of getting some stripped lowers (PSA are $40 / ea) and building a trio.
Obviously 5.56. So that would be number zero.
What be the other three?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:21 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:06 PM
China Burma India theater.
Posted by: Bert G at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (OMsf+)
I used to collect a lot of WWII militaria from all theaters. I had a soft spot for the CBI, so I got some flying tiger stuff, hump pilot stuff, blood chits, CBI patches etc. Cool stuff.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2019 09:22 PM (9Om/r)
some of the ChiCom SKS variants had a "spike" bayonet, basically a very pointy rod
Posted by: AltonJackson
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The Japs were the worst.....the bayonets for my Type 38 and 99 are so long it's embarrassing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:20 PM (Z+IKu)
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Everyone did a little of that, though.
When they went to "short rifles", they lengthened the bayonet to compensate.
Mauser, Enfield, did that. I don't know if the French did. Funny how everyone ignores their stuff.
I'd like a FAMAS because no one else has one.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:23 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: JT at August 11, 2019 09:23 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:25 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:25 PM (WEBkv)
I should have pre-disqualified you from answering, Bander.
Posted by: I fish
I was thinking Airplane!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:25 PM (aKsyK)
Perhaps a charming Zebco story can redeem this.
My first job was a temporary newpaper delivery route. It was the summer of 1970, I was ten. I got the job because a guy in a station wagon was driving around the neighborhood saying "hey kid, do you want a job?"
That's totally not creepy in a modern context.
Anyway the idea was to deliver free copies of a new community paper for two or three weeks to drum up interest. I was paid $10.
I spent $4 on a Zebco 202 spin-casting reel, $1 on something, and sent $5 to the Jimmy Fund. The Jimmy Fund sent me a Red Sox team picture and a fake autographed baseball, so I probably got $5 worth out of that.
Anyway my first independent purchase with my own money was a Zebco reel.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:26 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:26 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:26 PM (bmdz3)
What be the other three?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:21 PM (1g7ch)
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9mm should be one.
Carbines are a hoot. Cheap ammo, too.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: BigZesty at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (5cvel)
Hey, guys and gals!
The dog ate my homework. Gonna be interesting if he goes through a metal detector.
*remembers* . Oh, it was a Glock. No prob, it's plastic!
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (rvj2+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:19 PM (fuK7c)
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I cannot tell you how many trout i caught using a Zebco rod and reel.
Heck, I'd still be using it if I hadn't lost it somewhere along the highway of life.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:25 PM (WEBkv)
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Looks ok on my iPad. If you need me to I can edit a comment.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:28 PM (MVjcR)
Hey, guys and gals!
The dog ate my homework. Gonna be interesting if he goes through a metal detector.
*remembers* . Oh, it was a Glock. No prob, it's plastic!
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (rvj2+)
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Howdy again, bud!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:28 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:28 PM (MVjcR)
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Okay,
I pasted in a youtube URL, which I thought was okay and suddenly, my paranoia kicked in.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:23 PM (cfSRQ)
They don't like it up 'em, sir.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (t+qrx)
Carrots in the chili guy is BCochran. It's enshrined in our Book.
http://bit.ly/2Tr1zbM
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM
"Carrot" translates in Welsh to "Moron".
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (DMUuz)
I still use the Zebco 202 that I got for my 10th birthday
Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
The MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
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Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:30 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (DMUuz)
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I thought carrots were the Welsh equivalent of filet mignon?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (cfSRQ)
I pasted in a youtube URL, which I thought was okay and suddenly, my paranoia kicked in.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (WEBkv)
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I try and keep an eye on that happening and fix it. Tiny URL is your friend!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (MVjcR)
Oh, for the next fishing thread (8/24) I'm going to put out a call for hunting knowledge I'm going to put out a call for knowledge about hunting so that the next next fishing thread (9/14) can be a hunting thread.
I've done some self-taught self-guided hunting but there's a lot I'd like to learn and it's funny how little hunting is discussed around here.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:32 PM (fuK7c)
I still use the Zebco 202 that I got for my 10th birthday
Posted by: AltonJackson
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Nice! I sure do remember mine.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:32 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (q9nin)
Army insignia question. American Army lieutenant at the time of the
Korean war wears lapel pins that resemble the crossed swords of the
infantry but might be cannon or batons. Regardless, there is also a
vertical line also meeting at the intersection of the two swords or
whatever they are. The vertical item might be an arrow. Any guesses what
that would be?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (+y/Ru)
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Could be air defense artillery.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (cfSRQ)
https://t.co/ybY2QoCuF7
Posted by: David at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (jY1B4)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:26 PM
Personally, I find the lengths you're going to to QC every aspect (in this case, the water) of the WeaselAcres Organic Free-Range Tree Farm admirable!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (DMUuz)
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My pleasure, Eromero. And howdy to Mrs. E. Thanks for the picture.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (MVjcR)
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Yeah, I normally use tinyurl, but, decided it would be okay. First and last time I make that mistake!
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (+Z8GU)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:32 PM (fuK7c)
Be vewwy vewwy quiet......
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 09:35 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
The MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, Michigan
at August 11, 2019 09:35 PM (KCxzN)
Christmas present, 1964.
I was 9.
No dad but old guy who ran a bait/tackle shop I hung out at taught me to fish.
Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:35 PM (A9A9H)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (fuK7c)
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VI or Emacs?
Both work well, though there are those who swear by and swear at VI.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:23 PM (cfSRQ)
Yup....it would be nice if the Frogs would sell some of their surplus so we could get our hands on one of those since they are being replaced by the HK416F.
The cheap bastards have a history of holding on to every thing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (Z+IKu)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZmMEuAq0_Q
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:53 PM (F0auO)
Or the fellow walking into Walmart with rifle and 200 rounds of ammo who was stopped by an off duty fireman with a carry license.
They later said that the week before he had pointed it at a family member. - He wasn't testing #2 as he said.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (q9nin)
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The Ol' Ball & Chain is doing pretty well, thanks. Her biggest complaint now is with the nerves growing back, or whatever it is they do.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (MVjcR)
That guy gets a special honey hole in heaven.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (fuK7c)
https://t.co/ybY2QoCuF7
Posted by: David at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (jY1B4)
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YD Znutz: It's Time to Put a Sock In It, Sugartits. Now Bring Us Another Round.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (LXVpk)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:38 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (MVjcR)
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You married Morticia?
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:39 PM (WEBkv)
Serious question: is there an app where Siri will read text to you? I have an old iPad where it will read text with the right button push.
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:39 PM (rvj2+)
Until next week!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (cfSRQ)
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'Night, A.H.L.nnthanks for being here each week!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:39 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2019 09:40 PM (+y/Ru)
A-rex - could it be an air defense artillery insignia? https://tinyurl.com/y46aorlt
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:40 PM (VcFUs)
Both work well, though there are those who swear by and swear at VI.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (WEBkv)
Two of my old co-workers started dating, and that was a point of contention - she used vim, he was an emacs guy. Well, ten years later, they've celebrated their eighth anniversary.
I guess they just don't know how to quit each other.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (t+qrx)
Both work well, though there are those who swear by and swear at VI.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM
The ONLY good thing that can be said about VI is that it's on every Unix machine in the Universe.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (DMUuz)
You married Morticia?
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:39 PM (WEBkv)
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Ha! Nah...
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (MVjcR)
Lady Weasel and Mrs. E are two of the most gracious people you will ever meet.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (q9nin)
A-rex - could it be an air defense artillery insignia? https://tinyurl.com/y46aorlt
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:40 PM (VcFUs)
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That was one of those videos where you could see it coming yet couldn't turn away.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (9taFn)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:42 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:42 PM (VcFUs)
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Thanks, and thank you for participating!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:43 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:05 PM
Not for the Garands, but for the 1903s and the 1909 Argentine Mauser.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2019 09:43 PM (rBtIz)
What be the other three?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:21 PM (1g7ch)
I'll put in a recommendation for .300 AAC Blackout. Uses all the same parts as 5.56 except the barrel. What you get, when compared to 5.56, is a heavier bullet that doesn't lose as much performance out of shorter barrels, and has excellent suppressor potential when using heavy 200-220gr ammo.
9mm has already been recommended, so I guess I'll say #3 should be .50 Beowulf. I haven't got one myself, but from what I gather the selling points are that it'll use the same mags as 5.56 /.300BLK, and it's also really big.
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at August 11, 2019 09:43 PM (f0Pv6)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 11, 2019 09:44 PM (tkyK5)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (bmdz3)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (MVjcR)
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Well, you do seem to have the panache of Gomez, so, I thought, just perhaps...
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (WEBkv)
Personally, I find the lengths you're going to to QC every aspect (in this case, the water) of the WeaselAcres Organic Free-Range Tree Farm admirable!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (DMUuz)
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Sooner or later I'll run out of money!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (MVjcR)
Probably hauling in a perfect channel cat as we speak.
Or teaching a willing kid how to tie a trilene knot and how important it is to keep an eye on your rod tip while tightlining with a crawler or a hunk of chicken liver on the bottom.
Slip sinker of course.
Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:46 PM (A9A9H)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (bmdz3)
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Interestingly enough, I found some on ebay, though, they're not cheap.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:46 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (bmdz3)
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You know, I don't know that I do. I just found mine randomly at places that sell martial arms.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:47 PM (MVjcR)
Well, you do seem to have the panache of Gomez, so, I thought, just perhaps...
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (WEBkv)
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Panache! I like it!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:49 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 11, 2019 09:49 PM (+Z8GU)
Posted by: Insomniac
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Super easy, barely an inconvenience. Mostly a lot of huffing and puffing. But avoid the bricklaying ones. They're wolf-boiling bastards.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at August 11, 2019 09:49 PM (LXVpk)
Posted by: Insomniac
Palmetto State Armory PA-10 7.62 with the 19" barrel and the ATN-2 digital optics with the ir illuminator.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:50 PM (VcFUs)
Ask the owner and they usually have a few as most people do not want them when they buy the rifle it came in with for whatever reason.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:50 PM (Z+IKu)
My scores at the range were pretty good at 17, 12 and 10 yards. Got to work on that support hand grip next.
Carry everywhere you can legally carry and be careful when visiting Walmarts!
Posted by: WarEagle82 at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (+Kpte)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (bmdz3)
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (rvj2+)
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at August 11, 2019 09:43 PM (f0Pv6)
So the .50 Beowolf is a barrel change only?
I thought the .458 SOCOM was a direct swap out of the barrel, no other changes needed.
Or is this true for both the thumpers?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (1g7ch)
You never know when you'll need a bayonet until you need a bayonet.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:52 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (bmdz3)
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You might try Collectors Firearms in TX. They may know of a source if they don't have a few. Gun shows almost always have them but at gun show prices.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:54 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2019 09:54 PM (LXVpk)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (bmdz3)
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Be warned: You've created an itch that will need to be scratched!
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:55 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (bmdz3)
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Might check a gun show, too. There won't be a deal, at least, in my experience, because those guys tend to know what they have.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:56 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: MW at August 11, 2019 09:56 PM (hNTtn)
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (rvj2+)
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Then use a Garand. Miss with the bullets and bayonet, there's always clubbing!
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:56 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (rvj2+)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (MVjcR)
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And thanks for hosting another fine mess, I mean, thread!
Later!
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (WEBkv)
Practically anything from a 30-30 on up. If you're hunting over baited fields, rifle length and weight aren't a factor. Hunting in the woods? Short and compact is the way to go. Personally, I like my 450 Bushmaster chambered AR-15, and my second choice is a Browning model 71 (Winchester clone) chambered in 348 Winchester.
Posted by: WVinMN at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (pV4s0)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:58 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 11, 2019 09:59 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:59 PM (q9nin)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 11, 2019 09:49 PM (+Z8GU)
Looks like the 6.5 is a AR-10 platform?
That would be next hobby, maybe...
Otherwise on the low end 9mm to .50 thumper.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 10:01 PM (1g7ch)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 10:01 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 11, 2019 09:59 PM (u82oZ)
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Yep. It sure is. Just declare it at the ticket counter. Also, read your airlines rules in advance and print a copy to take to the airport.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 10:01 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:59 PM (q9nin)
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'Night Ben Had!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (MVjcR)
I thought the .458 SOCOM was a direct swap out of the barrel, no other changes needed.
Or is this true for both the thumpers?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (1g7ch)
I was under the impression that both of them only required Barrel/BCG swaps. A casual Bing'ing of the topic seems to confirm this, but should probably be investigated more thoroughly before spending any money.
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (f0Pv6)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:56 PM (WEBkv)
Ok, blake, this will date me, but back 100 years ago when I went through basic, bayoneting and butt-strokes were actually taught. Reinforced with bludgeoning each other in the pugil stick arena.
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (rvj2+)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 10:01 PM (QzJWU)
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Ha!!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (MVjcR)
MW, I believe the double action revolver is the best handgun for training and developing good shooting habits. Some of the handgun records of the 1930s and 40s were set using what came to be called Smith and Wesson K-frame revolvers, especially the Model 10 in 38 special.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (bmdz3)
I knew a guy who doesn't even shoot, who got a pistol just to pack with his pro video camera, after "They'll Steal Anything" pinched his old one.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2019 10:05 PM (LXVpk)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 10:06 PM (bmdz3)
There is actually a specific reason that myth won't die. Two reasons, really. Neither of them is safe or particularly reliable.
There are however other fairly well-demonstrated methods. People have been posting .gif instructions online after the bumpstock ban started pissing everyone off. Aside from the legality issues (people doing it publicly are SOT's who are actually allowed to), it's not nearly as useful as most people think.
Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at August 11, 2019 10:06 PM (67XdO)
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (bmdz3)
Model 10 - the Aviators special. Shot one-handed! And we're back on track.
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 10:06 PM (rvj2+)
McGyveer, over
Posted by: McGyver at August 11, 2019 10:08 PM (gMngZ)
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 10:11 PM (rvj2+)
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (f0Pv6)
Thanks, Wiki will only get you so far...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 10:13 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: McGyver at August 11, 2019 10:15 PM (gMngZ)
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 10:22 PM (29Nrd)
Thinking of a new hobby and I think of getting some stripped lowers (PSA are $40 / ea) and building a trio.
Obviously 5.56. So that would be number zero.
What be the other three?
Probably Willowed, but.... 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 x 39 (requires special magazines), and now 350 Legend. The Grendel is the best. What it should have been to begin with.
Posted by: Agitator at August 11, 2019 10:23 PM (m9DnX)
She didn't like it but she went! Good on her.
I did hit the range yesterday. The theme was one handed firing drills. Non-firing hand held limp. I tried bladed (bullseye) stances and more defensive stances, did some one handed Mozambique drills. All performed with either my Ruger 1911 or the CZ p07 with the .22 Kadet adapter.
I'm...still not great firing one hand. But I did see more improvement than last week or better technique. The Nurse out shot me most of the time
You know, the 1911 is not that bad to fire one handed. One of the morons (take a bow) mentioned it was designed for Cav usage and it really does work pretty well one handed. Food for thought. I'll try my other 45s, the XD and Glock and whatever else creeps into the range bag.
Still a good day.
More training needed but a good day.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 12, 2019 12:34 AM (xJa6I)
Hey you named your gun Kimber too. Imagine that. :-)
I shoot the Ultra SIS 3" which looks a lot like that one.
Posted by: Sapwolf at August 12, 2019 04:16 AM (PRyLN)
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