Gun Thread: Turn in Your Homework! [Weasel]

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Don't make me call your parents!

Last week we talked about one handed shooting and I suggested "you people" try it at the range and report back this week. Did any of you do it? Hmmmm? Did any of you complete your range assignment homework? Let's find out, shall we?

ASSIGNMENT: Why don't some of you try shooting one-handed this week and let us know how it goes in next weekend's Gun Thread?

Let's kick things off with this most excellent electronic mail message from our pal Our Country is Screwed:

The range I go to has a monthly "Action Shooters Group" aka tactical practice. Each session begins with a scenario that the devious instructor dreams up. Those in attendance weren't allowed down into the indoor range to see the scenario - kept it a surprise. We would all go down one at a time and do the scenario with the instructor.

One such episode the instructor called down each shooter one at a time. You were instructed to unload your pistol, set the pistol down with the slide NOT locked back. Your magazine was to be set beside the pistol. He then asked which hand was your dominant hand - then proceeded to wrap your hand as if you were wounded.

The scenario was this. You were cooking and burned your hand - hence the bandage. Your wife and daughter are in bed. There is a noise like someone is breaking into your home. Go deal with the situation.

You had to load your weapon and chamber a round -- one handed. Then go around a mock-up wall and shoot the targets set up. In low light. And only shoot the bad guys.

Figuring out how to chamber a round with one hand -safely - was a challenge. Several approaches were taken. Key is to use your rear sight. Rack your slide off your belt was one option. Kneel down and use your heel (what I did), or even use the table that your gun was on.

Great training exercise and was very realistic.

Note to all: If you belong to a range, check if they have such a group. Several do around me in NH. You'll probably have to qualify to join - but do it. If for nothing else, it will get you out once a month (or however they meet) and get you to practice.

This sounds like a well run program! Not only is there a place for people to shoot, but somone has taken the initiative to form a group and actually help others develop some real world skills. I wish MY indoor range had a program like this! Thanks Our Country is Screwed!

While the above probably represents the gold standard for public range training opportunities, did any of you practice one-handed shooting on your own last week? Was it the first time you tried it? How did it go?

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I also mentioned last week that I've been looking for a chest rig to wear when I'm on the tractor, and alert commenter Waepnedmann made the following suggestion:

I have a couple of GunfighterINC chest rigs for large frame semi-autos and a Diamond D Leather chest rig with a detatchable flap for a Ruger .44 mag.
The Diamond D Leather rig is a beautiful piece of work, but I would go with the GunfightersINC, because the holster shell is Kydex and holds up better to rain and sweat. After wearing either one for just a short time you do not even know it's there and it does not get in the way when working.

So I popped right over to the GunfightersINC website and took a peek. It didn't take me long to find the Kenai chest holster, and a few clicks later my order was placed. The good ol' USPS delivered it a few days later, and it's exactly what I was looking for. As Waepnedmann points out, the Kydex construction and nylon webbing makes this a much better option than leather when you're outside working where sweat and rain might be an issue. It's easily adjustable and comfy as shit - you really don't notice it's there after a few minutes. It holds the weapon, in my case a S&W .357 snubby, very securely and at just the right angle for an easy draw. My only thought is at the $150 price point, an adjustable tension screw would have been a nice feature, but it may never be needed. With that said, I'd definitely recommend the product! Thanks Waepnedmann!

Do any of you use a similar rig and how do you like it?

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Every so often we hear people mention they're shooting low and left, or in the case of left-handed shooters, low and right. What's up with that, you ask? Well the 15 minute video below may have some answers for you.

Take these grip techniques to the range and let us know if they help!

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Well apparantly, New Zealand is doubling down on stupid and proposing more gun control, this time in the form of a gun registration requirement. Evidently, their confiscation efforts aren't going very well because they can't figure out who has the guns they want to grab. For our brothers and sisters in that beautiful country, hang tough. For those of us here, pay damn close attention to what's going on in NZFrank's neck of the woods. You'll be seeing it here soon enough.

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Link-O-Rama
I Told You So...
...and What You Can Do About It
VIDEO: One-handed Malfunction Clearing
Article: Cut Your Reaction Time
Article: Ten New Pro-2nd Amendment Laws for Texas
Article: Minimalist Reloading Setup
22LR Competition: This Looks Like Fun!

***Mail Bag***

This week our pal Eromero sent in the following:

Went to the range today and this is Mrs. E’s target form her second shoot since broken right arm with a Kimber Micro9

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Holy Crap! I need to break my arm if it helps you shoot that well!! Very nicely done, Mrs. E!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?


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1 Bang!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:01 PM (SXMRB)

2 now to wait for the 88th poast...

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:03 PM (SXMRB)

3 roomy in here....

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:03 PM (SXMRB)

4 I went to my indoor range Saturday and shot my new mil spec 1911 for the first time. Worked beautifully. Shot 100 rounds.

Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (0E35O)

5 Single handed 1911 shooting results:
Dominant hand: 10 yards = dinner plate shot group, recoil was straight up
Off hand (left): 10 yards = 8" shot group! Recoil was a rotation clockwise which was weird as hell because there was no muzzle rise.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (VcFUs)

6 Stepped out breaking router contact and couldn't get it to log back in

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (BbGew)

7 I went to my indoor range Saturday and shot my new mil spec 1911 for the first time. Worked beautifully. Shot 100 rounds.

Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (0E35O)
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How'd you like it? Is this your first 1911?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:05 PM (MVjcR)

8 NOOD called.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:05 PM (SXMRB)

9 Willowed:

You can buy duck fat at Walmart.
Posted by: Tami



$13.99/11.28 ounces

Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2019 07:05 PM (LDbTO)

10 Single handed 1911 shooting results:
Dominant hand: 10 yards = dinner plate shot group, recoil was straight up
Off hand (left): 10 yards = 8" shot group! Recoil was a rotation clockwise which was weird as hell because there was no muzzle rise.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:04 PM (VcFUs)
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Nice!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (MVjcR)

11 Oh, and i put 50 rounds through each hand. Remington standard load .45 ACP

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)

12 Ola.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (bgJ0E)

13 Didn't get to booger hook the bang switch this weekend and now I have the sadz.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (LDbTO)

14 My first 1911 was in 1974 when I was in the Navy. I was also on my college pistol team.

Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (0E35O)

15 e-mailed a buddy to see about getting some group therapy this week...

Lord knows i could use the stress relief.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:07 PM (SXMRB)

16 Reminds me of that old joke guy brakes his arm and asks doctor if he will be able to play a violin well after its healed, doctor says sure you will, guy says great, never played one in my life.

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:07 PM (BbGew)

17 11 Oh, and i put 50 rounds through each hand. Remington standard load .45 ACP

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)
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That had to hurt.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:08 PM (MVjcR)

18 Back in my Navy days in '74 we were taught single hand shooting.

Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:08 PM (0E35O)

19 hiya Frank!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:08 PM (SXMRB)

20 Oh, and i put 50 rounds through each hand. Remington standard load .45 ACP

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)
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That had to hurt.
Posted by: Weasel


ISWYDT.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (LDbTO)

21 Ola to you amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (MVjcR)

22 Redhead gun chick....

Weasel, I'm not even a shooter and I appreciate the gun thread. Thanks for all you do.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (1FhAQ)

23 Oh, and i put 50 rounds through each hand. Remington standard load .45 ACP



Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)

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That had to hurt.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:08 PM (MVjcR)

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not to mention being overkill...

it should only take 5 or so rounds to completely destroy an adult hand.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (SXMRB)

24 What are your range prices? The indoor range I go to is $28/hour for a single lane.

Posted by: Archer at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (0E35O)

25 Did a wee bit of one-handed shooting yesterday with the Heritage Arms Rough Rider, but it wasn't mine. It doesn't feel right to shoot that one with both hands, really.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:10 PM (t+qrx)

26 The registration thing may not happen. We hope. Still has to get thru readings of the bill in parliament. We have launched a class action suit against the govt and po po. Could get interesting but we are fighting the filth and zealot rabid leftie politicians. The 2020 election is too far away to influence.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:10 PM (bgJ0E)

27 Redhead gun chick....

Weasel, I'm not even a shooter and I appreciate the gun thread. Thanks for all you do.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 11, 2019 07:09 PM (1FhAQ)
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Why you're certainly welcome. I'm glad you like it!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:11 PM (MVjcR)

28 That had to hurt.

Posted by: Weasel


right arm was sore as hell, left wrist was as well, but different muscles got sore on both arms. i gotta do this more often.

next experiment will be with my walther ppk which has the locked barrel. hoping for better shot grouping.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:11 PM (VcFUs)

29 Oh, for anyone who might be curious, I sent an email and a link to the video to Rise Armament asking if there was something I had overlooked; they said there wasn't any more troubleshooting that hadn't been addressed and sent me an RMA shipping label for the trigger early last week. A package back from them should be arriving tomorrow.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (t+qrx)

30 Oh, and i put 50 rounds through each hand. Remington standard load .45 ACP
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did


50 round through each hand?

Wow, that must have hurt. You're pretty tough.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (S6Pax)

31 And yeah, phrasing

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (VcFUs)

32 The registration thing may not happen. We hope. Still has to get thru readings of the bill in parliament. We have launched a class action suit against the govt and po po. Could get interesting but we are fighting the filth and zealot rabid leftie politicians. The 2020 election is too far away to influence.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:10 PM (bgJ0E)
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Well we're pulling for you!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (MVjcR)

33 NZ Frank - We have late 2020 election and Democrats are already at it with 2 debates done.

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:13 PM (BbGew)

34 Use both hands if you have them.

Posted by: gp at August 11, 2019 07:13 PM (mk9aG)

35 One handed dominant only.

.22 sig. did fairly well, improved as I got to the end of 100 rounds

Glock 19. Did well, most inside the nine. 100 rounds

Glock 42. Most inside nine or ten. 50 rounds

1911. 7 in ten range.

Very interesting day. Mark was, as usual so helpful and patient.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:14 PM (PkVlr)

36 Use both hands if you have them.
Posted by: gp at August 11, 2019 07:13 PM (mk9aG)


All day every day.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 11, 2019 07:14 PM (t+qrx)

37 Damn Eromero, what did you do to piss off Mrs. E?!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 11, 2019 07:15 PM (kQs4Y)

38 One handed dominant only.

.22 sig. did fairly well, improved as I got to the end of 100 rounds

Glock 19. Did well, most inside the nine. 100 rounds

Glock 42. Most inside nine or ten. 50 rounds

1911. 7 in ten range.

Very interesting day. Mark was, as usual so helpful and patient.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:14 PM (PkVlr)
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OK! Good job. Did it begin to feel less weird to shoot with one hand?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:15 PM (MVjcR)

39 So I'm going to ask a question which boils down to "should I buy a gun" and I think I know where y'all will go, but hear me out.

I went to a lot of time and expense to get a CCW in Connecicut and I haven't carried nor bought a pistol. I've had the permit about three months. Now I'm moving to New Jersey.

So pretty much all the money I have is wrapped up in the move and I can't grab the gun of my dreams before I leave the state, but I've gone to all the trouble to get legal and god knows what New Jersey is going to be like.

There are a couple of little .380s for $150. Easy to conceal, but there's no concealed carry in NJ. Should I get one because I can?

The next gun I should get to fill out my stable is a .357 mag. There's one at a good price but I think it's mislabeled as it's next to a .38 spl that looks identical and it doesn't look robust enough to be a mag.

There are a bunch of .380s and 9mms from $250 down. Should I get one just to get one? I can get one now, is the draw, not that that's what I want.

If I go .38 spl will I regret missing out on the manliness of a .357 mag?

(For background, I have a 1911 for the cool factor. Next should be practical).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:16 PM (fuK7c)

40 Askn for advice: Tore my biceps tendon (90%) surgery next wk. Dr. says I'll be able to hunt Mid-Oct but suggested low recoil weapon. Problem is it's muzzleloader season to start. For gun season which follows I have .243 I can use in place of .270. Only have T/C .50 cal mzldrs. Download? or just wing it? Try shootn left handed? Anybody had this injury?

Posted by: Vn Redleg at August 11, 2019 07:18 PM (ulOH4)

41 Well we're pulling for you!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:12 PM (MVjcR)

Thanks, I have a strategy to follow that opsec and persec prevent me from revealing but if it all goes well I will not be impacted, but no guarantees. The po po have screwed themselves here for a generation and they have not yet realized it. All the detail has come directly from their National HQ and the UN 2030 compact. I have been saying for over a decade the politician is just a long way of spelling c**t, now have to add the filth to the list.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:19 PM (bgJ0E)

42
did a little one-handed shooting with my new Heritage Rough Rider

first time I had shot it; I am impressed for a approx.$110 pistol, it functions as advertised & is a riot to shoot

I'm thinking about getting the .22 Mag cylinder for it. I've never shot .22 Mag, what's it like?

Posted by: AltonJackson
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at the cursed ancient Ind at August 11, 2019 07:19 PM (KCxzN)

43 Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:16 PM (fuK7c)
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All things considered, since you have the 1911, I'd wait and put the money toward a nice .357 Magnum. That's just me.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:20 PM (MVjcR)

44
thought I had fixed the nick thingie

Posted by: AltonJackson
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at August 11, 2019 07:20 PM (KCxzN)

45 Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:19 PM (bgJ0E)
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*fistbump* brother.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

46 I'm thinking about getting the .22 Mag cylinder for it. I've never shot .22 Mag, what's it like?

Posted by: AltonJackson
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Crazy loud with almost no recoil. It's surprising, and fun!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

47 Damn! On the road another two hours. Don't wait up for me.

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 07:23 PM (tU+8E)

48 Note to self: continue to treat Mrs E with respect, I can't even imagine being on the bad side of both Mr and Mrs E!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 11, 2019 07:23 PM (BiNEL)

49 Bandersnatch- Good luck moving to the People's republic
I'd say save the money for a lawyer but even that is useless there.

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:23 PM (BbGew)

50 Bandersnatch.

Buy the .357 Mag.

The versatility is unmatched. You can go from bunny-fart .38 target rounds, all the way up to Cor-Bon or Buffalo Bore "gonna hurtcha" rounds.

And everything in between.

Bonus: When you master the double action revolver trigger, everything else becomes surprisingly easy.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 07:24 PM (QzJWU)

51 Damn! On the road another two hours. Don't wait up for me.

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 07:23 PM (tU+8E)
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Around here I see people driving and using their phone all the time!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:24 PM (MVjcR)

52
I'm thinking about getting the .22 Mag cylinder for it. I've never shot .22 Mag, what's it like?
Posted by: AltonJackson

What Mr Weasel said, plus with the new ammo available now more accurate.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:24 PM (bgJ0E)

53 Buy the .357 Mag.


I think I can't afford one. The question is whether to buy a lesser gun just to get something out of my remaining legal window.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:26 PM (fuK7c)

54 I rarely did my homework.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2019 07:27 PM (LxTcq)

55 Fuckit, someone cheer me up and ask a question about machine guns.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:28 PM (bgJ0E)

56 OK! Good job. Did it begin to feel less weird to shoot with one hand?
Posted by: Weasel

It did! Actually, it felt pretty good. I wasn't nearly as intimidated as I was last week. And the .22 sig was far less awkward to fire one handed than the .22 Ruger.

My glock 42 is quite easy to fire one handed. and it will be my carry gun when I get confidant enough to do that sort of thing.

Bander,

I have an S&W .357 Magnum. I love it.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:28 PM (PkVlr)

57 This weeks range trip was two rifles from opposite sides of the last century. First up was my 1903 Springfield L/N. Great rifle, feels like a sports car when you handle it. Light and sleek for a battle rifle. The sights are magnificent and it will ring steel all day long from 100-600 yards, even the 10 inch gongs along with the man sized silhouettes. Made in 1917, it was re-barreled in 1942 and has the Hatcher hole. 30-'O6 is a great round.

Next up was my 1970 AR-180 by Howa. Japanese! I was able find a quick detach scope mount for it and attached a Leupold 1.5-5 scope on her, which barely fit. Zeroed it at 25 yards and it has no problem hitting steel out to 400 yards before I had to dial up to hit at 500-600 yards. Too easy to hit what your aiming at with this set up. The quick detach was made by StormWerkz and it worked flawlessly. Good people and check out their website as they make lots of goodies.

https://stormwerkz.com/

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 07:28 PM (Z+IKu)

58 Fuckit, someone cheer me up and ask a question about machine guns.
Ever fire a BM59?

Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 07:29 PM (S/rwf)

59 Hellooooooo nurse!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:30 PM (NWiLs)

60 So I know y'all went to the range. Who shoots better, Insom or Nurse?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:30 PM (fuK7c)

61 Figuring out how to chamber a round with one hand -safely - was a challenge. Several approaches were taken. Key is to use your rear sight. Rack your slide off your belt was one option. Kneel down and use your heel (what I did), or even use the table that your gun was on.

The HK VP9 has little bunny ears on the rear slide serration that are really helpful for this. They're pretty useful even if you're just operating the pistol normally.

https://stoatnet.org/vp9slide.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:30 PM (t+qrx)

62 On the same day Mrs. E was shooting the Micro9, I put about 150 rds through a G17 Gen3, 100 with right (dominant) hand and 50 with left hand. All onehanded. Because you never know. Was shooting for body mass and all but 3 or so did damage. 10 yards just like Mrs. E. And no, Eris, she's not mad at me. At least I don't believe she is. I'm afraid to ask.

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 07:32 PM (UUkQp)

63 Ever fire a BM59?
Posted by: Panhandler

Yes. On the bipod OK , offhand rubbish. I have expressed my dislike for the M14 and by default Garand system. I have them (currently) but they are pigs of rifles. Also Not machine guns.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:32 PM (bgJ0E)

64 hi Insom!


*wiggles*

*POUNCE*

bander,
Insom is quite the marksman.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:33 PM (PkVlr)

65 Red head reminds me of Tori Amos, alot

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:33 PM (BbGew)

66 Nice target, congratulations to Mrs E !


Shot one handed today, like almost every day at the range, most all stayed in the 8 ring at the typical 12-15 foot distance.
Shooting Buddy and I have, with practice gotten all draws under the 3 second mark, from whatever carry, this is good.
I need to do more of the nickel-on-barrel dry fire myself, I notice a tendency to shoot straight on, but low (from the long DAO pull) creeping back in on both the j-frame and the P290.

Shooting Buddy was getting fairly consistent failure-to-eject on the 2nd or 3rd round from his Ruger LCP .380 with Winchester flat nosed FMJ ammo; we didn't have anything else to try, so inconclusive, he will pick up some different kinds this week & we will see if that helps. Any thoughts from the HordeMind ?

I think that's about it; thanks as always, Weasel !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 07:34 PM (LpklP)

67 So, here is my range report. I went with my oldest son earlier in the week. It was the first time he'd been in a very long while. He stepped up to the firing line with a Sig 9mm and proceeded to put all shots in the 10 ring. Chip off the old block, that one. We had a good time and tore up a number of targets.

I did get some one-handed shooting in, both dominant and off hand. Grouping wasn't great, but I didn't put anything outside the 9, which I was fairly happy with considering I hadn't gotten any one-handed shooting practice in a long time. Certainly something to work on.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:36 PM (NWiLs)

68 I think I can't afford one. The question is whether to buy a lesser gun just to get something out of my remaining legal window.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:26 PM (fuK7c)

Is it possible for you to live in PA, and commute to work in NJ?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2019 07:36 PM (abNpZ)

69 Woohoo, an unrestrained pounce!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:36 PM (NWiLs)

70 I think that's about it; thanks as always, Weasel !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 07:34 PM (LpklP)
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You're welcome!! 2nd or 3rd round, eh? I've had flat nose that refused to feed reliably no matter what I did, so for me the fix was as easy as switching to ball.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:37 PM (MVjcR)

71 Bander,

Buy the .357 it's an investment you'll not have to replace.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:37 PM (PkVlr)

72 Good Evening Happy Gun Threadists.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (q9nin)

73 Did get to the range. Tried one handed, 10 rnds each with .45 at 7 yds. Not bad actually, just slightly worse than 2 handed. Elbow locked, used right eye with right hand and left eye with left hand. Right eye dominant, thought I would try something else different.

Posted by: Uncle Si at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (F7vOh)

74 Is it possible for you to live in PA, and commute to work in NJ?


That was my plan and for that reason but I'm going to be a state employee and they insist on me living in NJ. I will be in the NW corner where it's not awful but it's still NJ laws.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (fuK7c)

75 Hey there, Ben Had.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (t+qrx)

76 Bander - Nurse's Orders!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:39 PM (MVjcR)

77 "Don't make me call your parents!" Don't you love documents sprinkled with clip-art like that! The art makes the message SO much easier to understand!

Posted by: gp at August 11, 2019 07:39 PM (mk9aG)

78 Good Evening Happy Gun Threadists.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (q9nin)
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How are you my friend?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (MVjcR)

79 Fuckit, someone cheer me up and ask a question about machine guns.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:28 PM (bgJ0E)
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this idiot on Twatter keeps telling me how easy it is to make a sillyvillian go full auto, by just removing one bit of metal.

i'm thinking he means full, run away, auto, but i still think it's gonna take more than that, or ATF would never have approved the design.

what say you?

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (SXMRB)

80
hey Ben Had

Posted by: AltonJackson
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at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (KCxzN)

81 hogmartin, good to talk to you and AltonJackson.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (q9nin)

82 Bandersnatch, is NJ even big enough to have a NW corner? Sorry, I live in Texas and couldn't resist.

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 07:41 PM (UUkQp)

83 Did get to the range. Tried one handed, 10 rnds each with .45 at 7 yds. Not bad actually, just slightly worse than 2 handed. Elbow locked, used right eye with right hand and left eye with left hand. Right eye dominant, thought I would try something else different.

Posted by: Uncle Si at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (F7vOh)
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Try incorporating it into your regular range routine. It does take some getting used to!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

84 Ben Had!

Nice to see you! Hope all is well. Did you get to the range this week?

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (PkVlr)

85
likewise, Ben Had

Posted by: AltonJackson
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at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (KCxzN)

86 I have expressed my dislike for the M14 and by
default Garand system. I have them (currently) but they are pigs of
rifles. Also Not machine guns.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:32 PM (bgJ0E)

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BURN THE HERETIC!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (SXMRB)

87 Ben Had, we got to 101 today in ETEX. You?

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (UUkQp)

88
If I go .38 spl will I regret missing out on the manliness of a .357 mag?

No. 38+p make enough bang at range. Since you won't be able to carry it anywhere. Buy it before moving to NJ.

You should have moved to the PA side of the water gap.

Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (bk3t/)

89 BURN THE HERETIC!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (SXMRB)
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That was my first reaction, but he is from the southern hemisphere, so we need to make allowances.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (MVjcR)

90 Weasel, all is well, A cheroot in one hand and a bottle of Valu-rite in the other.

We have worked out the logistics for hogmartin and AltonJackson to go on the hog hunt.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (q9nin)

91 Off hand (left): 10 yards = 8" shot group! Recoil was a rotation clockwise which was weird as hell because there was no muzzle rise.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot


I think that means your left hand is a gangster.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (P1f+c)

92 hogmartin, good to talk to you and AltonJackson.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (q9nin)


Aw thanks, it was nice talking with you too.

I'm a little disheartened to hear about the stagecoach airport shuttle thing, if I'm being honest.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (t+qrx)

93 Didn't see bit about joining the NJ mob

Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2019 07:45 PM (bk3t/)

94 Weasel, all is well, A cheroot in one hand and a bottle of Valu-rite in the other.

We have worked out the logistics for hogmartin and AltonJackson to go on the hog hunt.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (q9nin)
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Nice! It's going to be a jamboree-hootenanny!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:46 PM (MVjcR)

95 That was my first reaction, but he is from the southern hemisphere, so we need to make allowances.



Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (MVjcR)

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fine: we'll use JP-4 and shaved C-4 for the fuel, so it's quick.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:46 PM (SXMRB)

96 and he has to answer my AR question first, as well...




Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:47 PM (SXMRB)

97 nurse, the only range I visit is wide open territory that has a lot of cows on it.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:47 PM (q9nin)

98 That was my first reaction, but he is from the southern hemisphere, so we need to make allowances.



Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (MVjcR)

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fine: we'll use JP-4 and shaved C-4 for the fuel, so it's quick.


Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:46 PM (SXMRB)
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Since he's our only pal from NZ, I think we should keep him around and maybe adopt him.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:48 PM (MVjcR)

99 nurse, the only range I visit is wide open territory that has a lot of cows on it.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:47 PM (q9nin)

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reactive targets are SO k3wl!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:48 PM (SXMRB)

100 Eromero, it is still 100 right now.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:50 PM (q9nin)

101 99 nurse, the only range I visit is wide open territory that has a lot of cows on it.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:47 PM (q9nin)

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reactive targets are SO k3wl!
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:48 PM (SXMRB)

*BANG*

MOOOOOO!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:50 PM (NWiLs)

102 Askn for advice: Tore my biceps tendon (90%) surgery next wk. Dr. says I'll be able to hunt Mid-Oct but suggested low recoil weapon. Problem is it's muzzleloader season to start. For gun season which follows I have .243 I can use in place of .270. Only have T/C .50 cal mzldrs. Download? or just wing it? Try shootn left handed? Anybody had this injury?
Posted by: Vn Redleg

Download, maybe a tight sling strap setup

Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2019 07:51 PM (bk3t/)

103 So what does one ideally use to hunt feral hogs?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:51 PM (NWiLs)

104 Took son to range today for a function check on an evil AR black rifle and a Government model .45. Plus some side action in .44 Magnum & .22 LR. Good time on a beautiful Pennsylvania afternoon.

Posted by: Assface at August 11, 2019 07:51 PM (OKp8N)

105 I went to the range and worked on drop, roll and fire. I also held it side ways , gang banger style.



Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 11, 2019 07:52 PM (2DOZq)

106 Bander, absolutely nothing wrong with .38 special.

Get what you can, while you can, it will be way better than being empty handed.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 07:52 PM (LpklP)

107 Did a wee bit of one-handed shooting yesterday with the Heritage Arms Rough Rider, but it wasn't mine. It doesn't feel right to shoot that one with both hands, really.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 07:10 PM (t+qrx)

I'll be taking my Heritage out for the first time tomorrow morning, if I can get my hiney out of bed.

I need significant practice the next couple months, or I'm gonna embarrass myself at CenTexMoMee.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at August 11, 2019 07:52 PM (jY2kO)

108 We are going to have a skills test at the MoMe.

Open chamber, one round, load and shoot a moving balloon in 10 sec.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (q9nin)

109 So what does one ideally use to hunt feral hogs?
Posted by: Insomniac
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A helicopter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (xSo9G)

110
what say you?
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:40 PM (SXMRB)

OK. I presume that you are referring about the AR platform rifles (again not a machine gun) and turning a semi auto into full auto. Nope cannot happen, unless you have the following, full auto bolt carrier, full auto selector switch, full auto disconnector, full auto hammer, full auto trigger, lower receiver machined to a accept full auto trigger. Also unless to have a drop in full auto sear , you need a full auto sear, sear spring, sear pin with correct sear pin holes drilled into the lower receiver. So your twitter idiot is an idiot. You can have a worn semi auto sear or disconnector that may double (fire two rds for one trigger pull) occasionally but that's it.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (bgJ0E)

111 Yes. On the bipod OK , offhand rubbish. I have expressed my dislike for the M14 and by default Garand system. I have them (currently) but they are pigs of rifles. Also Not machine guns.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:32 PM (bgJ0E)

Hi NZFrank! One of my unicorn guns I am always on the look out for is a Leader Dynamics T2 Mk5 made in Australia back in the good old days.

You ever see one of them in your neck of the woods?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (Z+IKu)

112

For your files:

14 Reloading Presses Compared: the BIG Single-Stage Shootout gavintoobe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqcYI0G2hqM

There's a link to his site, where he has the data collected from his tests. List price and Street price are included.

The TIR (Total Indicated Runout, a measure of concentricity) measurements (there are 3 of them) are, I think, the most important data, as getting the bullet axis and case axis aligned with each other and with the barrel bore (parallel AND as close to being colinear as possible) greatly affect accuracy, certainly for rifles.

I suspect this does not matter for pistols at all, except possibly for match shooting. The $68 Lee press might then make sense for most pistols.

The Prazi press ($950) is, I suspect, included only for comparison.

and

What You Need to Start Reloading Rifle Ammunition - a Walkthrough gavintoobe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rDppDH1IN4

Worth watching.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (FlRtG)

113 Bander, If possible, go for the 357 DA revolver. The versatility with the ammo is unparalleled. I don't know your budget but used Ruger GP100's can be found at a reasonable price.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (bmdz3)

114 That was my plan and for that reason but I'm going to be a state employee and they insist on me living in NJ. I will be in the NW corner where it's not awful but it's still NJ laws.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:38 PM (fuK7c)

I wonder if you could form a corporation, with a NJ corp. address, and contract that NJ-domiciled corp. to the State. and then the corp. hires PA domiciled Bander to do the teaching?

Or could you get a residence-of-record in NJ, and a "lake cottage" in PA?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (abNpZ)

115 Insom, AK-15

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (q9nin)

116 The NLR22 idea sounds like fun. Yes, much easier to find a hundred yards than a thousand

Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (Xhp1L)

117 We are going to have a skills test at the MoMe.

Open chamber on what? 12Ga, 45 LC, 22?

Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (S/rwf)

118 115 Insom, AK-15
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM (q9nin)

Not the AR-47?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2019 07:55 PM (NWiLs)

119 Bander, can you even bring firearms into NJ that you bought elsewhere? Are you allowed to own a firearm - never mind CCW - without a permit? In NY, you need a permit to just own and keep at home a pistol. I thought NJ would be similarly fascistic.

Posted by: butch at August 11, 2019 07:55 PM (hXu8T)

120 reposting from yesterday's pet thread for Ben, AltonJackson & Hogmartin
mom is on her 3rd or 4th ghost dog. She keeps them shaved so the Texas heat doesn't bug them too much and provides a kiddie pool that the whole damned pack lounges in for cooling off. She uses a horse watering system to keep the level at around six inches so the terriers can relax as well as the big dogs. Her two geriatric arabs (i SWEAR those two horses think they're dogs too) try to join the dogs but the pool has a split rail fence to keep them out. 

Speaking of the horses, they've raised about 14 years worth of feral pigs. At dusk, they head down to the bottoms near the creek and the pig herd comes out. The babies all gather around the horses while the adults graze in the tall grass. The horses keep the coyotes away from the babies. When i visit, i leave the horses in the barn after evening feeding and slip down to my favorite cottonwood for some piggy meat.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot



Mom's place is just south of Regan,Tx off highway 6. good Piggy hunting, what part of heaven are you three hunting in?

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:56 PM (VcFUs)

121 Well, it's a redhead with guns, so at least we have that.

I'm thinking of getting a SIG P365, which luckily can be rented at our local range. Any thoughts from shooters / owners?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 11, 2019 07:56 PM (k3g2v)

122 Panhandler, what ever you wish to use.

If it was me that doesn't know doodly and squat, I'd pick a shotgun

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 07:57 PM (q9nin)

123 Bander, absolutely nothing wrong with .38 special.

Get what you can, while you can, it will be way better than being empty handed.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365



Thanks. That's the sort of answer I was looking for. I think I said I can't afford the .357 and a half dozen people helpfully suggested I get the .357.

.38 is looking good now.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:57 PM (fuK7c)

124 So, had to run from last thread to try to get to the vape shop before they closed. Got there 3 mins too late (thought they stayed open later.)

Had to drive across town to go to the other one. Lexington is an odd place. Usually most cities have distinct regions. Lexington, you go from downtown to old industrial, to stately homes far off the road with huge lawns, to new construction. You can pass from bad to good to bad to good again in like 5 miles.

Also, Polliwog, from the previous thread, all the best to you and the Inspector.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 07:58 PM (ycWCI)

125 I have occasional failures to feed with my wife's Ruger LC380, but like always cartridge 6 of 7. Have 4 factory mags and not consistent with any one mag. Would be interested in hearing any thoughts on why or solutions thereto.

Diky.

Posted by: Pod Hamp at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (RBFmA)

126 89 BURN THE HERETIC!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 07:42 PM (SXMRB)
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That was my first reaction, but he is from the southern hemisphere, so we need to make allowances.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 07:44 PM (MVjcR)

Weeeell, that's because you Septics have never had the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR. In comparison all other rifles are revealed as the junk they are. Gods Own Rifle is so powerful that Mother Gaia winces every time a UD occurs. Enemy targets do not spin and fall went hit, they cease to exist and are removed to another dimension.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)

127 Didn't get to the range this week. But I have the handguns and supplies ready to go when I can get out there. It will be mostly 22s and yes, I will be using both strong and weak hand.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bmdz3)

128 Ben - would need 30 with my flintlock, 20 if I used a running ball

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (BbGew)

129 Bif, Central Texas just outside of Corsicana.

I'm not the hunter just the tour guide.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:00 PM (q9nin)

130 Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)

Sounds like a phaser.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 11, 2019 08:00 PM (2DOZq)

131 Love my P365!

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2019 08:01 PM (WMNHl)

132
...45 LC...

Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 07:54 PM


I'm listenin'

always wanted a revolver in 45LC

after shooting the Heritage Rough Rider (in .22LR); I really want the same pistol in 45LC

Posted by: AltonJackson
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at August 11, 2019 08:01 PM (KCxzN)

133 Skip, come on down.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:02 PM (q9nin)

134 Only wish I could

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (BbGew)

135 131m lin-duh:

"Love my P365!"

Tell me. Need to know.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (k3g2v)

136
Hi NZFrank! One of my unicorn guns I am always on the look out for is a Leader Dynamics T2 Mk5 made in Australia back in the good old days.

You ever see one of them in your neck of the woods?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (Z+IKu)

The semi versions are around, but now Prohibited firearms unless on a C license. Not well thought of as shooters, but they work and go bang. Interesting things as they are lets say , different. Going rate was around $1800 NZ at auction.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (bgJ0E)

137 Weeeell, that's because you Septics have never had the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR. In comparison all other rifles are revealed as the junk they are. Gods Own Rifle is so powerful that Mother Gaia winces every time a UD occurs. Enemy targets do not spin and fall went hit, they cease to exist and are removed to another dimension.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)

Aka a 'FAL'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (ycWCI)

138 Weeeell, that's because you Septics have never had the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR. In comparison all other rifles are revealed as the junk they are. Gods Own Rifle is so powerful that Mother Gaia winces every time a UD occurs. Enemy targets do not spin and fall went hit, they cease to exist and are removed to another dimension.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)
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oh yeah? Well at least our water drains the right way!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:04 PM (MVjcR)

139
The Cowboys is on. 1972.
John Williams did the music.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:04 PM (n0wlE)

140 Just in God and John Browning's preferred measurements (some might say I repeat myself.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:04 PM (ycWCI)

141 Ben,
I turn onto highway 14 when i pass through there enroute to Regan. Next time i head that way, I'll give you a shout. Would enjoy meeting you if schedules align.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 08:06 PM (VcFUs)

142 Bander, can you even bring firearms into NJ that you bought elsewhere? Are you allowed to own a firearm - never mind CCW - without a permit?


I don't know. I was hoping the Dildo would be here.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:07 PM (fuK7c)

143 Midwayusa is having a sale on some of their black powder guns and gear. I ordered a Traditions Trapper flintlock pistol at the best price I've seen. And free shipping. I have the Trapper pistol in percussion and it is an excellent shooter. I've wanted a flintlock pistol for many years and finally gave in to temptation.

Now I just have to show maturity and patience until it arrives. Maturity sucks! I want it now.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:08 PM (bmdz3)

144 Bif, anytime. If your close can you make the MoMe?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:08 PM (q9nin)

145 occurs. Enemy targets do not spin and fall went hit, they cease to exist and are removed to another dimension.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)

Aka a 'FAL'?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (ycWCI)

Are you some sort of communist? The metric version of Gods Own Rifle is an offence against man , time and all the gods. The inch pattern is the only acceptable one for proper people on the planet.It is written, it is know.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:08 PM (bgJ0E)

146 Glad to assist, bander.
Most of the year my CC piece is a .38 snubbie, and I fire standard loads, not +P.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (LpklP)

147 Didja see C Cup's contribution to the gun control debate?

SE Cupp Unfiltered@UnfilteredSE
It's time to act on guns. @secupp says, "I'll be accused of letting my emotions get in the way of facts here . . . it should be more emotional. And to my friends in the Republican party, at the NRA, on the side of gun rights, if you're not emotional about this, join me, won't you?"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (+y/Ru)

148
you Septics have never had the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR.

Are we Germy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (aKsyK)

149 Hey everybody, again.

Ad on Ace's page beneath this thread:
"Forrest Gump producers reveal how Jenny really died."

Well duh. She tried to hold up a gun store.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (L2ZTs)

150 ------
oh yeah? Well at least our water drains the right way!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:04 PM (MVjcR)

You have water?? What are these drains of which you speak?

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:10 PM (bgJ0E)

151 I cannot make the MoMe. Back surgery has me sidelined and off the motorcycle untill next season. Home is Huntsville, AL.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 08:10 PM (VcFUs)

152 "18 Back in my Navy days in '74 we were taught single hand shooting."
*******__*__********
Yeah that was part of it when I qualified in 1973, also Navy. I scored sharpshooter. Just missed expert.

Posted by: Cosda at August 11, 2019 08:11 PM (tMKcD)

153 So your twitter idiot is an idiot. You can have a
worn semi auto sear or disconnector that may double (fire two rds for
one trigger pull) occasionally but that's it.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:53 PM (bgJ0E)

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and that tracks with what i thought. danke.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:11 PM (SXMRB)

154 148
you Septics have never had the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR.

Are we Germy?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 08:09 PM (aKsyK)

Wee secret, Yank = septic tank. Cockney rhyming slang.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:12 PM (bgJ0E)

155 Bif, speedy healing.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:13 PM (q9nin)

156 Weeeell, that's because you Septics have never had
the privilege of using Gods Own Rifle the L1A1 SLR. In comparison all
other rifles are revealed as the junk they are. Gods Own Rifle is so
powerful that Mother Gaia winces every time a UD occurs. Enemy targets
do not spin and fall went hit, they cease to exist and are removed to
another dimension.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 07:59 PM (bgJ0E)

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we have one of those...

and an Aussie HB version as well...(L1A2?)

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:13 PM (SXMRB)

157 also have at least one FAL receiver, that i need to buy a kit for. and have a CETME parts kit i need to build out as well...

im gonna need a bigger canoe.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:14 PM (SXMRB)

158 Out on the deck. Cigar time.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:14 PM (MVjcR)

159 Wooohooo!
Mentioned in dispatches!

Posted by: Waepnedmann at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (pjQJE)

160 The very best rifle or handgun is the one closest to you when you need it.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (q9nin)

161
SE Cupp Unfiltered@UnfilteredSE
It's time to act on guns. @secupp says, "I'll be accused of letting my emotions get in the way of facts here . . . it should be more emotional. And to my friends in the Republican party, at the NRA, on the side of gun rights, if you're not emotional about this, join me, won't you?"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



I'm no rocket scientist, but that sure doesn't sound very "libertarian" to me.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (F0auO)

162 The registration thing won't happen here until the "universal b/g check" system fails, which it will.
Then the banshees will be wailing for registration. Hundreds of thousands of weapons will fall out of canoes, prolly raising water levels to catastrophic heights and inundating all the polar bears or Manhattan or something.

Posted by: dad29 at August 11, 2019 08:16 PM (7Kti7)

163 What are your range prices? The indoor range I go to is $28/hour for a single lane.
Posted by: Archer

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I did not make it to the range this week. Tomorrow though for sure - I've reserved a lane.

For a $40 a month membership I get unlimited range time both weekdays and weekends. I can take a guest for free. Also free firearm rentals if I want to try something out.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2019 08:16 PM (Y4EXg)

164 NZFrank - The inch pattern FAL is on my wish list.

Posted by: butch at August 11, 2019 08:16 PM (hXu8T)

165
Hickok45 reviews the Heritage Rough Rider

https://tinyurl.com/y34qykpa

cereal, go get one of these pistols. I paid $108 thru Cheaper Than Dirt; some one said last week they saw them for $99 somewhere

I may actually get a second one, for the obvious reasons

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (KCxzN)

166 159 Wooohooo!
Mentioned in dispatches!
Posted by: Waepnedmann at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (pjQJE)
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Yeah man! Appreciate the recommendation. I really like the chest rig.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (MVjcR)

167
The response is very simple: What "law" could you have passed that could've possibly stopped the leftist shooters in El Paso and Dayton?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (F0auO)

168 Let's not allow its iconic image, the deeds that were accomplished with it, and its superiority to its contemporaries to blind us from the fact that U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, M1 is objectively a flawed military arm, and propagated odd conceits from the previous century well into the 20th.

Top loading magazine with en-bloc clips is a 19th century solution to a problem that every other military on earth had solved a generation prior with detachable box mags or internal mags and stripper clips. You can't top it off, it's hard to reload one-handed without a lot of practice, and it's got fiddly springs and latches that hold the clip until they don't, hopefully when they're supposed to. The only reason loading the clip itself in a hurry didn't turn out to be a problem is that they were made on the order of numbers with many zeroes after them, pre-loaded at the factory and shipped out to troops that way. The op-rod is a huge stonking mass of reciprocating metal that cycles along the length of the rifle every single time it's fired, off the horizontal axis. If it's in any way out of true from its factory shape, it will short cycle or fail to extract. And every time it's fired, it's blasted with corrosive compounds from the beginning of the war until at least the mid 1940s - no idea when the stock of corrosive ammo was finally rotated out. The top-loading receiver means you can't mount a scope in any useful way without losing the cheek weld, and you have to rig it hilariously off-center to keep spent brass from bouncing off the lens.

The sights are really nice, though. I think the Enfield rifles were the only other standard rifles that had sights half as nice as the Garand.

It's a nice gun that didn't have a peer in the world at that time that could be fielded in those numbers, but it's not magic.

*pauses*

*clicks Post*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)

169 "160 The very best rifle or handgun is the one closest to you when you need it.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:15 PM (q9nin) "



Yes !

This !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 08:18 PM (LpklP)

170
"You'll prevent murder-by-guns by passing a law just like you'll prevent hurricanes by passing a law."
--Shih Tzu

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:18 PM (F0auO)

171 The semi versions are around, but now Prohibited firearms unless on a C license. Not well thought of as shooters, but they work and go bang. Interesting things as they are lets say , different. Going rate was around $1800 NZ at auction.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:03 PM (bgJ0E)

Great! Thanks and stay strong.

Don't let the bastards wear you down.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 08:19 PM (Z+IKu)

172 Win a SCAR 17S at Classic

https://wn.nr/RhDpYc

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 11, 2019 08:19 PM (yQpMk)

173 At El Paso do you think that guy who was trying to stop the invasion was firing his AR15 type pistol with one hand ?
His drums held 100 rounds
Is it possible to pull the trigger that many times while holding an accurate aim ?

Posted by: Kurt at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (WjvGD)

174
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we have one of those...

and an Aussie HB version as well...(L1A2?)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:13 PM (SXMRB)

It would have a US made receiver nes pa? I do have the L2A1 real deal full auto HB with magazine chest, spare parts and the rare as rocking horse shit wooden transit chest. Also the L4 Bren 7.62mm with the rare (only one left on the planet rare) transit chest and all goodies, but thats fo another time.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (bgJ0E)

175
Posted by: Kurt

He's your leftist pal; ask him.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (F0auO)

176 Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)


Hmmm.


*starts looking for dull knife*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (ycWCI)

177 132 ... "after shooting the Heritage Rough Rider (in .22LR); I really want the same pistol in 45LC"

The price for a new 45 Colt SA can go from about 350.00 to over 700. Both Uberti and Pietta offer fixed sight 45 Colt revolvers and they get good reviews. If you want something to hand down to your grandchildren, look at the Ruger Vaquero or Blackhawk.

If you go for one, try to handle as many models as possible. Grip shape and barrel length can make a big difference on what feels comfortable.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (bmdz3)

178 Around here I see people driving and using their phone all the time!
That became illegal in Illinois as of 7/1/19. Since I'm from Wisconsin, at some point in time I'll forget and get hauled over.

Posted by: dad29 at August 11, 2019 08:21 PM (7Kti7)

179 It's a nice gun that didn't have a peer in the world at that time that could be fielded in those numbers, but it's not magic.



*pauses*



*clicks Post*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)

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says a guy who puts carrots in his chili. you probably like 9mms too.

we're gonna need a bigger bonfire, Weasel!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:21 PM (SXMRB)

180
His drums held 100 rounds

and I have 100 drums

what's your point, eh?

Posted by: Neal Peart at August 11, 2019 08:22 PM (KCxzN)

181 If you go for one, try to handle as many models as possible. Grip shape and barrel length can make a big difference on what feels comfortable.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (bmdz3)

I still say the Ruger Vaquero Bisley (they still make them, but only in stainless from what I can find) is one of the best feeling handguns I have ever... handled.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (ycWCI)

182
It's a nice gun that didn't have a peer in the world at that time that could be fielded in those numbers, but it's not magic.

*pauses*

*clicks Post*
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)

This guy, he gets it!

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)

183 Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:20 PM (bgJ0E)

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yeah, i believe it is... something about importing foreign receivers, especially full auto ones.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (SXMRB)

184 So now they want to infringe on both the 2nd and the 4th Amendment. And Dan Crenshaw of Texas can kiss my ass.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (xInes)

185 I'm right handed and have no problem shooting my 1911 or Ruger single actions left handed. What I have trouble with is shooting a rifle or shotgun left handed.

Posted by: Cosda at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (tMKcD)

186
says a guy who puts carrots in his chili. you probably like 9mms too.

we're gonna need a bigger bonfire, Weasel!
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:21 PM (SXMRB)
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But just look at how diverse we are in our opinions!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:24 PM (29Nrd)

187 This guy, he gets it!

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)

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in the neck.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:24 PM (SXMRB)

188 Skookumchuk @ 321- P365? Don't be mad but Ima gone say one word at you. Glock. Specifically G43. Utterly dependable. Or, if 10 rnds is preferred, a G43X or maybe a G48. I have shot the G43 but not the latter two. Although I know this 'guy' who owns a G48 so will be shooting that one soon. I hate to sound like a Glock snob cause I ain't one. Eromero TOA has a lot of gub diversity, but like I said, Glocks just work.

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 08:25 PM (UUkQp)

189 It's a nice gun that didn't have a peer in the world at that time that could be fielded in those numbers, but it's not magic.
*pauses*
*clicks Post*
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:17 PM (t+qrx)

But you can top it off.

Just ask Bloke on the Range....and he's English!
M1 Things that just ain't so....

https://tinyurl.com/y56jquv4

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 08:25 PM (Z+IKu)

190 also have at least one FAL receiver, that i need to buy a kit for. and have a CETME parts kit i need to build out as well...

im gonna need a bigger canoe.


Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:14 PM (SXMRB)


The FAL is a thing of fucking beauty.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (9Om/r)

191 says a guy who puts carrots in his chili.


Carrots in the chili guy is BCochran. It's enshrined in our Book.

http://bit.ly/2Tr1zbM

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (fuK7c)

192 187 This guy, he gets it!

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)

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in the neck.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 11, 2019 08:24 PM (SXMRB)

More of a throat punch fan myself.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (bgJ0E)

193 I went to my Well-Armed Woman class Friday night and we had drills where we shot with one hand, with both our dominant and weak hand. I'm pretty good with my dominant hand (right) but pull way to the right when I shoot left handed. Went to the range with hubs and son today and practiced a bit more.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (JHQ5S)

194 we shot with one hand, with both our dominant and weak hand. I'm pretty good with my dominant hand (right) but pull way to the right when I shoot left handed. Went to the range with hubs and son today and practiced a bit more.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (JHQ5S)

Good work. Keep it up.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (bgJ0E)

195 "Take these grip techniques to the range and let us know if they help!"

Interesting.


While watching, an exercise thought (I know) popped into the concrete cerebellum:

->seated with elbow at side, fingers together and pointed at ceiling, curl last three fingers while the index finger remains perfectly pointing at the ceiling.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (Hg4NE)

196 193 I went to my Well-Armed Woman class Friday night and we had drills where we shot with one hand, with both our dominant and weak hand. I'm pretty good with my dominant hand (right) but pull way to the right when I shoot left handed. Went to the range with hubs and son today and practiced a bit more.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (JHQ5S)
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Good for you! How'd you like the class?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (29Nrd)

197 "I still say the Ruger Vaquero Bisley (they still make them, but only in stainless from what I can find) is one of the best feeling handguns I have ever... handled.
Posted by: Aetius451AD"

Agreed. But I got my Vaquero second hand at a really good price so I decided the Bisley grip wasn't worth the extra bucks. If I were to go for another one, it would be the Bisley model.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:29 PM (bmdz3)

198 Carrots in the chili guy is BCochran. It's enshrined in our Book.

http://bit.ly/2Tr1zbM
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (fuK7c)


I figured it was just a handy insult in Olde Hordeish.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:31 PM (t+qrx)

199 196
193 I went to my Well-Armed Woman class Friday night and we had drills
where we shot with one hand, with both our dominant and weak hand. I'm
pretty good with my dominant hand (right) but pull way to the right when
I shoot left handed. Went to the range with hubs and son today and
practiced a bit more.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM (JHQ5S)

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Good for you! How'd you like the class?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (29Nrd)

Oh it's great, I highly recommend to any 'ettes. I've been going for about a year now. We have a class with a different topic every month, then range time with different drills. My favorite class topic so far was when the Walter rep came and let us try like 10 different guns.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:31 PM (JHQ5S)

200
Good for you! How'd you like the class?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:28 PM (29Nrd)

Oh it's great, I highly recommend to any 'ettes. I've been going for about a year now. We have a class with a different topic every month, then range time with different drills. My favorite class topic so far was when the Walter rep came and let us try like 10 different guns.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:31 PM (JHQ5S)
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Very nice! Let us know if you have any unusual drills or particular training you find helpful.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:34 PM (29Nrd)

201

Do you wear ear protection for "Action Shooters Group" aka tactical practice?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 08:34 PM (aKsyK)

202 Skook -
insofar as a P365 seems to be a double-stack P290A, I think it should be just fine - I carry a P290 (not A) right now because it seems a little less sticky-outey under a t-shirt than the j-frame.
When the 356 gets a little cheaper I will probably buy one.

my old 290 (probably traded in by someone buying a 365) has a hammer strike on the light side, had a few failures on hard-primered Russian steel case stuff; when I started to use normal ammo, zero problem over the several hundred rounds I fired to make it a carry-with-confidence piece.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 08:35 PM (LpklP)

203
Do you wear ear protection for "Action Shooters Group" aka tactical practice?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 08:34 PM (aKsyK)
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That's a good question - I'd be surprised if it wasn't required.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:36 PM (29Nrd)

204 But you can top it off.

Just ask Bloke on the Range....and he's English!
M1 Things that just ain't so....

https://tinyurl.com/y56jquv4
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 08:25 PM (Z+IKu)


I hadn't ever seen that done before. Having seen it, I concede that point, though I maintain that it's more cumbersome than using a stripper clip or swapping a detachable magazine. It's only necessary to use both hands because of the odd insistence on an en-bloc top-loader with an internal magazine.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:36 PM (t+qrx)

205 SE Cupp Unfiltered@UnfilteredSE
It's time to act on guns. @secupp says, "I'll be accused of letting my emotions get in the way of facts here . . . it should be more emotional. And to my friends in the Republican party, at the NRA, on the side of gun rights, if you're not emotional about this, join me, won't you?"

--

So you're saying that people should constantly be afraid of being shot by black people?

Because that's what emotion gives you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 11, 2019 08:36 PM (A8W5E)

206 "--------
Very nice! Let us know if you have any unusual drills or particular training you find helpful.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:34 PM (29Nrd) "


Seconded !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez; they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 11, 2019 08:37 PM (LpklP)

207 Gotta go. Kittehs are looking for food. Thanks Mr Weasel, as always good times on the thread.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:39 PM (bgJ0E)

208 I always thought Carrie Keagan had to more impressive qualifications anyway.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:39 PM (ycWCI)

209 Thinking of the Garand, which interests you more regarding WWII - European or Pacific Theatres?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)

210 207 Gotta go. Kittehs are looking for food. Thanks Mr Weasel, as always good times on the thread.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 11, 2019 08:39 PM (bgJ0E)
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Good night and give the kitty a scratch on the chin for me. Hang tough, bro5her.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:41 PM (MVjcR)

211 Weasel, European, with out a doubt.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:42 PM (q9nin)

212 Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2019 08:43 PM (PwY6a)

213 209 Thinking of the Garand, which interests you more regarding WWII - European or Pacific Theatres?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)

Hmmm. I say the European. One, more actors involved on various sides. Two, more hypothetical what ifs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2019 08:43 PM (ycWCI)

214 211 Weasel, European, with out a doubt.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:42 PM (q9nin)
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Any particular reasons? Specific battles or adversaries?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:43 PM (MVjcR)

215 I hadn't ever seen that done before. Having seen it, I concede that point, though I maintain that it's more cumbersome than using a stripper clip or swapping a detachable magazine. It's only necessary to use both hands because of the odd insistence on an en-bloc top-loader with an internal magazine.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:36 PM (t+qrx)

I didn't know either till I saw the Bloke's video a couple of years ago.

If you practice what he shows in the video, you can get good and quick at it which I think lots of our GI's in WW2 and Korea could do no problem.

He also dispels the "ping" myth in another video I believe.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 08:45 PM (Z+IKu)

216 Thinking of the Garand, which interests you more regarding WWII - European or Pacific Theatres?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)


They might as well be different wars. One doesn't interest me any more than the other.

One thing that I am curious about is whether after VE day, troops were anxious about being sent to the Pacific because come on you assholes, we just defeated Nazi f'ng Germany, can we just go home now, or because the they felt that they were being sent to a worse conflict than they'd just won. That is, what did troops in one theater think about the other?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:45 PM (t+qrx)

217 Weasel, I would have advocated for Dresden I, II and III.

The Holocaust is a real biggy for me.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (q9nin)

218 Visit the wonderful Dalmatian coast in WWII, everyone is shooting

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (PwY6a)

219 We did have one drill I thought was helpful, considering all of us are women and most of us are still learning. We paired up, and each person loaded the other person's magazine, and mixed in some dummy rounds, so we could learn what to do when our gun misfired (tap and rack!)
Archer asked upthread about costs; our range is $125 per year for my husband and myself and we can shoot whenever we want. My Well-Armed Woman classes are $10 each, to cover target costs and such.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (JHQ5S)

220 Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:45 PM (t+qrx)
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True. Very different wars. Interesting point regarding the troops.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (MVjcR)

221 Weasel, Those links in the post are very helpful. We've discussed minimal reloading on the thread a bit but that article gives some good pointers.

I'm trying not to think too much about what will happen in the Senate since, as you now, both our senators are shit. The idea that they deal with law breakers instead of infringing on the rights of innocent citizens would never occur to the bastards.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:48 PM (bmdz3)

222 219 We did have one drill I thought was helpful, considering all of us are women and most of us are still learning. We paired up, and each person loaded the other person's magazine, and mixed in some dummy rounds, so we could learn what to do when our gun misfired (tap and rack!)
Archer asked upthread about costs; our range is $125 per year for my husband and myself and we can shoot whenever we want. My Well-Armed Woman classes are $10 each, to cover target costs and such.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (JHQ5S)
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Very reasonable! And that is a good drill.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:50 PM (MVjcR)

223 Weasel, old Pappy Eromero carried the Garand through basic training at Camp Fanning, exercises in Louisana and England, ashore on D-Day and on to St. Lo before being put out of action permanently. As far as I know he never had any desire to carry one again. Right up to his passing in 2004 he hunted with a BAR .243 with nice wooden furniture. I have one in 30-06 but with synthetic stock. I never shot an M1, but like the M1A.

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 08:50 PM (UUkQp)

224 If I go .38 spl will I regret missing out on the manliness of a .357 mag?



(For background, I have a 1911 for the cool factor. Next should be practical).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:16 PM (fuK7c)

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The classic answer is: it depends.

By that I mean, if you are getting a snub-nosed pocket revolver, .38 spl is fine.

The only reason I'd go with .357 is if you are getting something with at least a four-inch barrel.

Caliber matters less than shot placement. No point in having a hand-howitzer if its noise and recoil make you miss.

I challenge anyone here to name a situation where an armed citizen was unable to stop a crime because his weapon didn't have enough horsepower - that is to say, the shots hit center mass, but couldn't get enough penetration to drop the perp.

I used to follow these stories all the time, and I never came across a single case of it happening.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 08:51 PM (cfSRQ)

225
I'm trying not to think too much about what will happen in the Senate since, as you now, both our senators are shit. The idea that they deal with law breakers instead of infringing on the rights of innocent citizens would never occur to the bastards.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 08:48 PM (bmdz3)
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Man, no kidding!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:51 PM (MVjcR)

226 188, Eromero - I just can't seem to get used to the grip angle.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 11, 2019 08:51 PM (k3g2v)

227
I'm sitting here thinking: I'll bet there are lots of leftists out there, you know, Kurt's pals, who are thinking about doing a shooting to help the Gun Control issue move forward.

And then I see this: A Leftist Wanker Walks Into A WalMart And Asks An Employee For A Gun That Can Kill 200 People. Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZmMEuAq0_Q

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:53 PM (F0auO)

228
They have completed the autopsy on Juan Epstein, but are delaying announcing the results:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7347339

Again, no video footage of inside the cell to see what happened.

Also, Dr. Michael Baden, a celebrity Quincy you've probably seen on the TV, was called in to "observe" the autopsy. He didn't do anything, just observed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 11, 2019 08:53 PM (f1Vqw)

229 One thing that I am curious about is whether after VE day, troops were anxious about being sent to the Pacific because come on you assholes, we just defeated Nazi f'ng Germany, can we just go home now,
or because the they felt that they were being sent to a worse conflict
than they'd just won. That is, what did troops in one theater think
about the other?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:45 PM (t+qrx)

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The ETO troops were ready to be done with the whole thing.

Some of the brass were excited about further opportunities for glory, but I never came across anyone who fought their way across Germany and were looking forward to doing the same in Japan.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 08:54 PM (cfSRQ)

230 Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:51 PM (MVjcR)

Virginia used to be such a nice state, then...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 11, 2019 08:54 PM (BiNEL)

231 The FAL is a thing of fucking beauty.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM

Agreed. I must add one to the collection eventually.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2019 08:54 PM (rBtIz)

232 Watching the video, heh. I went through a brief period where I was missing and finally figured out that, for some reason, I wasn't gripping the pistol as tight as I should have been.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (WEBkv)

233
I'll tell what the cause of death was, Sam. It was murder. Cold-blooded, calculating murrrrrrrdeeeeeer.

Posted by: Dr. Quincy at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (f1Vqw)

234 Also, Dr. Michael Baden, a celebrity Quincy you've
probably seen on the TV, was called in to "observe" the autopsy. He
didn't do anything, just observed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 11, 2019 08:53 PM (f1Vqw)


Junior Mint?

Posted by: Jerry at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (O9EVq)

235 Great, thread, as usual, weasel!

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (WEBkv)

236

The definition of Terrorism is an act of violence for the purpose of forcing political change.

Kurt's pals would have no problem shooting up lots of people if helps "gun control" get enacted.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (F0auO)

237 217 Weasel, I would have advocated for Dresden I, II and III.

The Holocaust is a real biggy for me.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 08:47 PM (q9nin)
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Yep. Hard to imagine living through that.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:56 PM (MVjcR)

238 Europe is Western Civ., all the places matter. And they've all had the same battles before.

The Pacific was a bunch of islands we'd never heard of. Oh, we need to learn what a Tarawa is because there's this grand island hopping strategy to make sure that oil can still get to New Zealand or something.

Both theaters were horrific fighting, but Europe has more cultural resonance.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)

239 ...Thinking of the Garand, which interests you more regarding WWII - European or Pacific Theatres?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)




Jerry wasn't real big on Banzai charges on moonless nights.

I'm thinkin' the Garand, M-1 Carbine, Thompson and Grease Gun made a game-changing difference in the Pacific, most of all.

Breaking the back of the Banzai charges was a huge thing. The Japanese had to have been dismayed, dispirited and dumbfounded that their
Gyokusai wasn't so all-powerful, after all.

Not that the Garand didn't make a difference in Europe, too. Patton's quote about the rifle showcases it perfectly: "In my opinion, the M-1 rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised."

Even with it's admitted flaws, it's quantities in issue proved a quality all of it's own.

Perfect? No. But it worked, and worked well when oh-so-many earlier or different designs, hadn't, or didn't still.

But yeah. It made the biggest difference in the Pacific, and without it, too many of those Banzai charges would have succeeded.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 08:57 PM (QzJWU)

240 Some of the brass were excited about further opportunities for glory, but I never came across anyone who fought their way across Germany and were looking forward to doing the same in Japan.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 08:54 PM (cfSRQ)


Well if VJ day had come first, surely the troops in the Pacific would have rather gone home than get shipped to Europe too. I was wondering more if a hypothetical opportunity came up to leave one theater and be reassigned to another - same division, say, with all your buddies - if troops in one theater thought the other was better or worse. Or what they thought of it at all.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:58 PM (t+qrx)

241 223 Weasel, old Pappy Eromero carried the Garand through basic training at Camp Fanning, exercises in Louisana and England, ashore on D-Day and on to St. Lo before being put out of action permanently. As far as I know he never had any desire to carry one again. Right up to his passing in 2004 he hunted with a BAR .243 with nice wooden furniture. I have one in 30-06 but with synthetic stock. I never shot an M1, but like the M1A.
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 08:50 PM (UUkQp)
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The M1 is kind of chunky!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM (MVjcR)

242 If I go .38 spl will I regret missing out on the manliness of a .357 mag?

(For background, I have a 1911 for the cool factor. Next should be practical).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 07:16 PM (fuK7c)
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Bander, you can shoot 38 special out of a 357. As I think I've mentioned before, I have a snub nose revolver that is a nightmare to shoot with 357 loads, but a dream to shoot with 38 special +P.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM (WEBkv)

243 235 Great, thread, as usual, weasel!
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 08:55 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks, blake!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM (MVjcR)

244 Thinking of the Garand, which interests you more regarding WWII - European or Pacific Theatres?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:40 PM (MVjcR)


The dudes in the CBI region were in some seriously miserable conditions.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (9Om/r)

245 Europe is Western Civ., all the places matter. And they've all had the same battles before.



The Pacific was a bunch of islands we'd never heard of. Oh, we need
to learn what a Tarawa is because there's this grand island hopping
strategy to make sure that oil can still get to New Zealand or
something.



Both theaters were horrific fighting, but Europe has more cultural resonance.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)

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Fun fact: Godzilla was originally about the spirits of Japan's war dead.

Yes, yes, the nuclear tests were what woke the beast, but if it was really a manifestation of Gaia's anger, it would have gone after the US.

No, Gojira was really about how so many Japanese soldiers, sailors and airmen died in the South Pacific, fighting to the death and then the people in the Home Islands not only surrendered, but submitted to foreign rule. The film came out when Japan was starting to recover and prosperity was returning and that was why the monster had to wreck everything they'd rebuilt: they betrayed the spirits of those who fought for them.

Food for thought.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (cfSRQ)

246 The M1 is kind of chunky!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM

This is true, but it's a thing of freakin' beauty.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (rBtIz)

247 Skookumchuck @ 226- Glock grip angle is just fine for this old 1911-trained sailor, but may be so because gorilla hands. Mrs. E has a few Glock 17's that she shoots very well, maybe better than her carry which is a Kimber, and she has smallish hands. Don't mean to open up a box of pandas or nothing on you, I just like most any gub and believe that for the money and performance Glocks are hard to beat.

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (UUkQp)

248 238 Europe is Western Civ., all the places matter. And they've all had the same battles before.

The Pacific was a bunch of islands we'd never heard of. Oh, we need to learn what a Tarawa is because there's this grand island hopping strategy to make sure that oil can still get to New Zealand or something.

Both theaters were horrific fighting, but Europe has more cultural resonance.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)
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Interesting. And very good point.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:01 PM (MVjcR)

249 Food for thought.


Hmm. I'm not up on my Gojira but that's interesting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:02 PM (fuK7c)

250 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (cfSRQ)
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Did not know that! Thanks, A.H. Lloyd.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:04 PM (MVjcR)

251 Well if VJ day had come first, surely the troops in
the Pacific would have rather gone home than get shipped to Europe too. I
was wondering more if a hypothetical opportunity came up to leave one
theater and be reassigned to another - same division, say, with all your
buddies - if troops in one theater thought the other was better or
worse. Or what they thought of it at all.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 08:58 PM (t+qrx)

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I don't think people ever got a choice - certainly not on the grunt level.

The ETO was the Army's war, and that included Big Air Force.

The Pacific was owned by the Navy, with the Army playing second fiddle and the USAAF only providing long-range bombing late in the game.

To put it another way, if you enlisted in the Marines, you knew you were going west. The Army? Mostly Europe. The Navy? Mostly the Pacific.

It was pretty widely known btw that the Pacific was a "dirty" war. No sight-seeing, grateful French or Italian girls waiting for you, just sand, malaria and Japanese bullets.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:04 PM (cfSRQ)

252 246 The M1 is kind of chunky!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 08:59 PM

This is true, but it's a thing of freakin' beauty.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2019 09:00 PM (rBtIz)
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*fistbump*

How many of you that own Garands also have bayonets?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:05 PM (MVjcR)

253
The dudes in the CBI region were in some seriously miserable conditions.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division


What is (was) CBI?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:06 PM (aKsyK)

254
What is (was) CBI?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:06 PM (aKsyK)

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China Burma India.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (cfSRQ)

255 Mom's place is just south of Regan,Tx off highway 6. good Piggy hunting, what part of heaven are you three hunting in?
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:56 PM (VcFUs)


Oh gosh, sorry, I overlooked this. We'll be roughly 1/4 along the way from Dallas to Houston.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (t+qrx)

256
It was pretty widely known btw that the Pacific was a "dirty" war. No sight-seeing, grateful French or Italian girls waiting for you, just sand, malaria and Japanese bullets.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd


And no cold weather.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (aKsyK)

257 What is (was) CBI?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:06 PM



China Burma India theater.

Posted by: Bert G at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (OMsf+)

258 Weasel I have the bayonet for a Garand. Don't ever want to use it though. Kinda like the Mosin 44 folder. Wicked-looking thingie.

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:09 PM (UUkQp)

259 258 Weasel I have the bayonet for a Garand. Don't ever want to use it though. Kinda like the Mosin 44 folder. Wicked-looking thingie.
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:09 PM (UUkQp)
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Yeah, no kidding!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:09 PM (MVjcR)

260 How many of you that own Garands also have bayonets?
I managed to get the period correct bayonets for the M1s I have, trick was finding a WWII bayonet that wasn't a cut down WWI model. Camping out at CMP South also helped.

Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 09:10 PM (S/rwf)

261 I have a bayonet for my M1. That is some pig sticker.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2019 09:11 PM (Y4EXg)

262 How many of you that own Garands also have bayonets?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:05 PM (MVjcR)

I have the Model 1905 and the M1 Bayonet (1943?).
Both fit tight but shake rattle and roll when you shoot the rifle.

The M1905 is like a sword, very long, while the M1 is shorter.

They also fit my 1903 Springfields.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:12 PM (Z+IKu)

263 260 How many of you that own Garands also have bayonets?
I managed to get the period correct bayonets for the M1s I have, trick was finding a WWII bayonet that wasn't a cut down WWI model. Camping out at CMP South also helped.
Posted by: Panhandler at August 11, 2019 09:10 PM (S/rwf)
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Yep. I have a few and at one time thought about collecting them. I like seeing the names from conversion of peacetime industry to wartime production. Singer, Rock-Ola, Union Fork and Hoe, to name a few.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:13 PM (MVjcR)

264 And no cold weather.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (aKsyK)

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Yes, and lots of exciting tropical diseases and the delightful "jungle rot" that exactly no one wanted.

The guys in the ETO were at least dealing with places they'd heard of, and maybe wanted to visit. My grandfather was a navigator on the cross-Atlantic supply routes (think B-17s turned into cargo haulers with no guns).

They did a brisk business in smuggled liquor and nylons and I'm told that he thoroughly enjoyed his visit to Paris (a curious notation in his flight log references "B.J." who I assume was a close friend).

I doubt the night club scene in liberated Saipan or Guadalcanal was comparable.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:13 PM (cfSRQ)

265 The M1905 is like a sword, very long


Because the M1903 is a short rifle. They didn't want to be on the short end of a spear fight with the Hun.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 11, 2019 09:14 PM (yQpMk)

266
Yep. I have a few and at one time thought about collecting them. I like seeing the names from conversion of peacetime industry to wartime production. Singer, Rock-Ola, Union Fork and Hoe, to name a few.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:13 PM (MVjcR)
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And I meant that in general - not just bayonets!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:14 PM (MVjcR)

267 LOL.

The Week has an anti-gun columnist named... Neil Young.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 11, 2019 09:15 PM (L2ZTs)

268 How many of you that own Garands also have bayonets?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:05 PM (MVjcR)
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Only have a bayonet for the SMLE.

Looks like a tent peg. Good for sticking and not much else.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:16 PM (WEBkv)

269 I have a pal who gave me a bayonet from the Spanish American War, and another of Japanese manufacture.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:16 PM (MVjcR)

270 Oh, and i put 50 rounds through each hand. Remington standard load .45 ACP
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 07:06 PM (VcFUs)

Ouch. I'm suprised you can still type.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 11, 2019 09:16 PM (z79tQ)

271 Trump Talks to Gun Rights Leaders
https://t.co/EroGGbGHMs

White House Asks Gun-Rights Leader for Input on Shooting Response
https://t.co/YchZgWg1WA

Interview with Alan Gottlieb Part 1
National gun-rights advocate offers winning advice
https://t.co/QHM8Xg7dAO

Posted by: David at August 11, 2019 09:17 PM (jY1B4)

272 Yep. I have a few and at one time thought about
collecting them. I like seeing the names from conversion of peacetime
industry to wartime production. Singer, Rock-Ola, Union Fork and Hoe,
to name a few.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:13 PM (MVjcR)

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Those command a premium. I'm not a fan of 1911s, don't own one, but maybe one day I'll get one, but it will have to be something interesting, like that.

BTW, didn't get to the range this week, still waiting for the Mauser to return from its refit.

My current project is figuring out a re-assembly assist on the damn Dreyse. The Webley casing takes it down nice, but putting it back together is a cast-iron bitch. I need some yankee ingenuity to come up with a way to do this that doesn't break my thumb and send the bushing bouncing around the room when the spring gets loose.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:17 PM (cfSRQ)

273 Zero Hour Bombsight Co. became...?

Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:17 PM (A9A9H)

274 Zero Hour Bombsight Co. became...?
Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:17 PM (A9A9H)



Zebco fishing reels?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:19 PM (fuK7c)

275 Someone once told me the company that makes most hot water heater tanks manufactured bomb casings.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:19 PM (MVjcR)

276 Because the M1903 is a short rifle. They didn't want to be on the short end of a spear fight with the Hun.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 11, 2019 09:14 PM (yQpMk)

Yup....it's like they had bayonet envy.

The Japs were the worst.....the bayonets for my Type 38 and 99 are so long it's embarrassing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:20 PM (Z+IKu)

277 I should have pre-disqualified you from answering, Bander.

Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:20 PM (A9A9H)

278 Since people brought it up, I think Trump is up to his usual tricks.

That is, he's making a show of considering gun restrictions, but he'll also demand that illegals that break the law will be instantly deported.

And the Dems will refuse to go for it, because they love illegals.

Anyone remember the shut down six months ago, and how people thought Trump was going to cave on some sort of amnesty for a wall?

Same game. Worked then, will work now.

But to sell it, he has to seem serious and the gun people have to go nuts, proving what a thoughtful, centrist he is.

In the end, Pelosi will be explaining that just because you break a gun law isn't reason to deport you...

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:20 PM (cfSRQ)

279 What are the best three calibers for AR-15s.

Thinking of a new hobby and I think of getting some stripped lowers (PSA are $40 / ea) and building a trio.

Obviously 5.56. So that would be number zero.
What be the other three?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:21 PM (1g7ch)

280 What is (was) CBI?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:06 PM





China Burma India theater.

Posted by: Bert G at August 11, 2019 09:07 PM (OMsf+)


I used to collect a lot of WWII militaria from all theaters. I had a soft spot for the CBI, so I got some flying tiger stuff, hump pilot stuff, blood chits, CBI patches etc. Cool stuff.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2019 09:22 PM (9Om/r)

281
some of the ChiCom SKS variants had a "spike" bayonet, basically a very pointy rod

Posted by: AltonJackson
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282 Yup....it's like they had bayonet envy.



The Japs were the worst.....the bayonets for my Type 38 and 99 are so long it's embarrassing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:20 PM (Z+IKu)

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Everyone did a little of that, though.

When they went to "short rifles", they lengthened the bayonet to compensate.

Mauser, Enfield, did that. I don't know if the French did. Funny how everyone ignores their stuff.

I'd like a FAMAS because no one else has one.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:23 PM (cfSRQ)

283 Gunga la Gunga !

Posted by: JT at August 11, 2019 09:23 PM (arJlL)

284 Hopefully, this isn't bif:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qVHexdOeN0

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:25 PM (WEBkv)

285 Crud, did I just screw up the margins?

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:25 PM (WEBkv)

286
I should have pre-disqualified you from answering, Bander.
Posted by: I fish


I was thinking Airplane!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2019 09:25 PM (aKsyK)

287 I should have pre-disqualified you from answering, Bander.


Perhaps a charming Zebco story can redeem this.

My first job was a temporary newpaper delivery route. It was the summer of 1970, I was ten. I got the job because a guy in a station wagon was driving around the neighborhood saying "hey kid, do you want a job?"

That's totally not creepy in a modern context.

Anyway the idea was to deliver free copies of a new community paper for two or three weeks to drum up interest. I was paid $10.

I spent $4 on a Zebco 202 spin-casting reel, $1 on something, and sent $5 to the Jimmy Fund. The Jimmy Fund sent me a Red Sox team picture and a fake autographed baseball, so I probably got $5 worth out of that.

Anyway my first independent purchase with my own money was a Zebco reel.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:26 PM (fuK7c)

288 Oh, Bander - I'm ordering a boat tomorrow so I can start getting out on the James River and doing some smallmouth fishing while I'm supposed to be farming.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:26 PM (MVjcR)

289 I learned, almost 40 years ago after our first date (at a target range) to respect the girl who became Mrs. JTB. Seeing that target from Mrs. E just reinforces such a sensible approach. Glad her arm is coming along so well.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:26 PM (bmdz3)

290 Obviously 5.56. So that would be number zero.

What be the other three?



Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:21 PM (1g7ch)

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9mm should be one.

Carbines are a hoot. Cheap ammo, too.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (cfSRQ)

291 For those that are interested in hog hunting, there is a thread on the high road forum. Don't remember what it's called but it's pinned on the main page and it's been going on for 10 years or so. The guy that started it lives in East Texas. He shoots with a 458 socom, or at least he did about 8 years ago. I haven't worked my way all through the thread yet

Posted by: BigZesty at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (5cvel)

292 "Here at Weasel 6, they left the light on for me!"

Hey, guys and gals!
The dog ate my homework. Gonna be interesting if he goes through a metal detector.
*remembers* . Oh, it was a Glock. No prob, it's plastic!

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (rvj2+)

293 Zebco fishing reels?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:19 PM (fuK7c)
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I cannot tell you how many trout i caught using a Zebco rod and reel.

Heck, I'd still be using it if I hadn't lost it somewhere along the highway of life.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (WEBkv)

294 285 Crud, did I just screw up the margins?
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:25 PM (WEBkv)
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Looks ok on my iPad. If you need me to I can edit a comment.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:28 PM (MVjcR)

295 292 "Here at Weasel 6, they left the light on for me!"

Hey, guys and gals!
The dog ate my homework. Gonna be interesting if he goes through a metal detector.
*remembers* . Oh, it was a Glock. No prob, it's plastic!
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:27 PM (rvj2+)
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Howdy again, bud!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:28 PM (MVjcR)

296 Looks ok on my iPad. If you need me to I can edit a comment.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:28 PM (MVjcR)
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Okay,

I pasted in a youtube URL, which I thought was okay and suddenly, my paranoia kicked in.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (WEBkv)

297 When they went to "short rifles", they lengthened the bayonet to compensate.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:23 PM (cfSRQ)


They don't like it up 'em, sir.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (t+qrx)

298 says a guy who puts carrots in his chili.


Carrots in the chili guy is BCochran. It's enshrined in our Book.

http://bit.ly/2Tr1zbM
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 08:26 PM


"Carrot" translates in Welsh to "Moron".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (DMUuz)

299
I still use the Zebco 202 that I got for my 10th birthday

Posted by: AltonJackson
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300 Hepburn in African Queen was hawt. There, I said it first. Time to piss on the fire sportsfans. Cofveve at 0400. And thanks, Weasel.

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:30 PM (UUkQp)

301 Army insignia question. American Army lieutenant at the time of the Korean war wears lapel pins that resemble the crossed swords of the infantry but might be cannon or batons. Regardless, there is also a vertical line also meeting at the intersection of the two swords or whatever they are. The vertical item might be an arrow. Any guesses what that would be?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (+y/Ru)

302 "Carrot" translates in Welsh to "Moron".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (DMUuz)

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I thought carrots were the Welsh equivalent of filet mignon?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (cfSRQ)

303
I pasted in a youtube URL, which I thought was okay and suddenly, my paranoia kicked in.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:29 PM (WEBkv)
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I try and keep an eye on that happening and fix it. Tiny URL is your friend!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (MVjcR)

304 For those that are interested in hog hunting, there is a thread on the high road forum


Oh, for the next fishing thread (8/24) I'm going to put out a call for hunting knowledge I'm going to put out a call for knowledge about hunting so that the next next fishing thread (9/14) can be a hunting thread.

I've done some self-taught self-guided hunting but there's a lot I'd like to learn and it's funny how little hunting is discussed around here.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:32 PM (fuK7c)

305
I still use the Zebco 202 that I got for my 10th birthday
Posted by: AltonJackson
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Nice! I sure do remember mine.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:32 PM (MVjcR)

306 Speaking of spouses that have had wrist surgery- How is the lovely Lady Weasel recovering?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (q9nin)

307 301
Army insignia question. American Army lieutenant at the time of the
Korean war wears lapel pins that resemble the crossed swords of the
infantry but might be cannon or batons. Regardless, there is also a
vertical line also meeting at the intersection of the two swords or
whatever they are. The vertical item might be an arrow. Any guesses what
that would be?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (+y/Ru)

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Could be air defense artillery.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (cfSRQ)

308 SE Cupp: It's Time To Get Emotional About Gun Control
https://t.co/ybY2QoCuF7

Posted by: David at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (jY1B4)

309 Oh, Bander - I'm ordering a boat tomorrow so I can start getting out on the James River and doing some smallmouth fishing while I'm supposed to be farming.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:26 PM


Personally, I find the lengths you're going to to QC every aspect (in this case, the water) of the WeaselAcres Organic Free-Range Tree Farm admirable!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (DMUuz)

310 Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:30 PM (UUkQp)
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My pleasure, Eromero. And howdy to Mrs. E. Thanks for the picture.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (MVjcR)

311 Annosaurus, some kind of wacky anti-air or artillery?

Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (UUkQp)

312 I try and keep an eye on that happening and fix it. Tiny URL is your friend!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:31 PM (MVjcR)
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Yeah, I normally use tinyurl, but, decided it would be okay. First and last time I make that mistake!

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (WEBkv)

313 Wow. I need an editor.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (fuK7c)

314 Never C clamp on your gas block, as me how I know. Made adjustments on the second mag, and tape my thumb.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (+Z8GU)

315 ...I've done some self-taught self-guided hunting but there's a lot I'd like to learn and it's funny how little hunting is discussed around here.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:32 PM (fuK7c)



Be vewwy vewwy quiet......



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 09:35 PM (QzJWU)

316
the "responsible adult" bell is gonna ring in seven hours

thanks, Weasel

Posted by: AltonJackson
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317 First fishing outfit, Zebco 33.
Christmas present, 1964.
I was 9.
No dad but old guy who ran a bait/tackle shop I hung out at taught me to fish.

Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:35 PM (A9A9H)

318 Yep, time to turn in.

Until next week!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (cfSRQ)

319 313 Wow. I need an editor.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:34 PM (fuK7c)
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VI or Emacs?

Both work well, though there are those who swear by and swear at VI.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (WEBkv)

320 I'd like a FAMAS because no one else has one.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:23 PM (cfSRQ)

Yup....it would be nice if the Frogs would sell some of their surplus so we could get our hands on one of those since they are being replaced by the HK416F.


The cheap bastards have a history of holding on to every thing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (Z+IKu)

321 And then I see this: A Leftist Wanker Walks Into A WalMart And Asks An Employee For A Gun That Can Kill 200 People. Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZmMEuAq0_Q

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 11, 2019 08:53 PM (F0auO)


Or the fellow walking into Walmart with rifle and 200 rounds of ammo who was stopped by an off duty fireman with a carry license.

They later said that the week before he had pointed it at a family member. - He wasn't testing #2 as he said.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (Hg4NE)

322 306 Speaking of spouses that have had wrist surgery- How is the lovely Lady Weasel recovering?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (q9nin)
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The Ol' Ball & Chain is doing pretty well, thanks. Her biggest complaint now is with the nerves growing back, or whatever it is they do.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (MVjcR)

323 No dad but old guy who ran a bait/tackle shop I hung out at taught me to fish.


That guy gets a special honey hole in heaven.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (fuK7c)

324 SE Cupp: It's Time To Get Emotional About Gun Control
https://t.co/ybY2QoCuF7
Posted by: David at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (jY1B4)

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YD Znutz: It's Time to Put a Sock In It, Sugartits. Now Bring Us Another Round.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (LXVpk)

325
thanks, Weasel
Posted by: AltonJackson
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You are very welcome! Thanks for stopping by!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:38 PM (MVjcR)

326 The Ol' Ball & Chain is doing pretty well, thanks. Her biggest complaint now is with the nerves growing back, or whatever it is they do.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:37 PM (MVjcR)
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You married Morticia?

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:39 PM (WEBkv)

327 Yeah, NH (Live free or text) passed a no hand-held device law last year. In reality I'd run off the road just trying to squint at tiny text on the phone.
Serious question: is there an app where Siri will read text to you? I have an old iPad where it will read text with the right button push.

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:39 PM (rvj2+)

328 318 Yep, time to turn in.

Until next week!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (cfSRQ)
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'Night, A.H.L.nnthanks for being here each week!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:39 PM (MVjcR)

329 Could be air defense artillery.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd

Thank you.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2019 09:40 PM (+y/Ru)

330 Hi Blake, nope not it, just a victim of phrasing.

A-rex - could it be an air defense artillery insignia? https://tinyurl.com/y46aorlt

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:40 PM (VcFUs)

331 VI or Emacs?

Both work well, though there are those who swear by and swear at VI.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM (WEBkv)


Two of my old co-workers started dating, and that was a point of contention - she used vim, he was an emacs guy. Well, ten years later, they've celebrated their eighth anniversary.

I guess they just don't know how to quit each other.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (t+qrx)

332 VI or Emacs?
Both work well, though there are those who swear by and swear at VI.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:36 PM


The ONLY good thing that can be said about VI is that it's on every Unix machine in the Universe.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (DMUuz)

333

You married Morticia?
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:39 PM (WEBkv)
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Ha! Nah...

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (MVjcR)

334 Weasel is just jerking your leg.

Lady Weasel and Mrs. E are two of the most gracious people you will ever meet.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (q9nin)

335 330 Hi Blake, nope not it, just a victim of phrasing.

A-rex - could it be an air defense artillery insignia? https://tinyurl.com/y46aorlt
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:40 PM (VcFUs)
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That was one of those videos where you could see it coming yet couldn't turn away.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (WEBkv)

336 There are three garands. It's science!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (9taFn)

337 Weasel, thank you for the gub thread.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:42 PM (VcFUs)

338 337 Weasel, thank you for the gub thread.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:42 PM (VcFUs)
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Thanks, and thank you for participating!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:43 PM (MVjcR)

339 How many of you that own Garands also have bayonets?
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:05 PM

Not for the Garands, but for the 1903s and the 1909 Argentine Mauser.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2019 09:43 PM (rBtIz)

340 Obviously 5.56. So that would be number zero.
What be the other three?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:21 PM (1g7ch)


I'll put in a recommendation for .300 AAC Blackout. Uses all the same parts as 5.56 except the barrel. What you get, when compared to 5.56, is a heavier bullet that doesn't lose as much performance out of shorter barrels, and has excellent suppressor potential when using heavy 200-220gr ammo.

9mm has already been recommended, so I guess I'll say #3 should be .50 Beowulf. I haven't got one myself, but from what I gather the selling points are that it'll use the same mags as 5.56 /.300BLK, and it's also really big.

Posted by: Lazy Messenger at August 11, 2019 09:43 PM (f0Pv6)

341 So what does one ideally use to hunt feral hogs?
Posted by: Insomniac

Answer: Feral Texans.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 11, 2019 09:44 PM (tkyK5)

342 Weasel, Do you know of a good source for Garand bayonets? The CMP doesn't have any.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (bmdz3)

343 Ha! Nah...
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:41 PM (MVjcR)
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Well, you do seem to have the panache of Gomez, so, I thought, just perhaps...

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (WEBkv)

344

Personally, I find the lengths you're going to to QC every aspect (in this case, the water) of the WeaselAcres Organic Free-Range Tree Farm admirable!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2019 09:33 PM (DMUuz)
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Sooner or later I'll run out of money!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (MVjcR)

345 Indeed he does Bander.
Probably hauling in a perfect channel cat as we speak.
Or teaching a willing kid how to tie a trilene knot and how important it is to keep an eye on your rod tip while tightlining with a crawler or a hunk of chicken liver on the bottom.
Slip sinker of course.

Posted by: I fish at August 11, 2019 09:46 PM (A9A9H)

346 342 Weasel, Do you know of a good source for Garand bayonets? The CMP doesn't have any.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (bmdz3)
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Interestingly enough, I found some on ebay, though, they're not cheap.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:46 PM (WEBkv)

347 342 Weasel, Do you know of a good source for Garand bayonets? The CMP doesn't have any.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (bmdz3)
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You know, I don't know that I do. I just found mine randomly at places that sell martial arms.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:47 PM (MVjcR)

348
Well, you do seem to have the panache of Gomez, so, I thought, just perhaps...


Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:45 PM (WEBkv)
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Panache! I like it!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:49 PM (MVjcR)

349 AR15 3- 5.56, 300 blackout and 6.5 creedmoore

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 11, 2019 09:49 PM (+Z8GU)

350 So what does one ideally use to hunt feral hogs?
Posted by: Insomniac

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Super easy, barely an inconvenience. Mostly a lot of huffing and puffing. But avoid the bricklaying ones. They're wolf-boiling bastards.

Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at August 11, 2019 09:49 PM (LXVpk)

351 So what does one ideally use to hunt feral hogs?
Posted by: Insomniac


Palmetto State Armory PA-10 7.62 with the 19" barrel and the ATN-2 digital optics with the ir illuminator.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 11, 2019 09:50 PM (VcFUs)

352 For bayonets, I always check pawn shops.

Ask the owner and they usually have a few as most people do not want them when they buy the rifle it came in with for whatever reason.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2019 09:50 PM (Z+IKu)

353 Good night at the range followed by a nice ride late in the day.

My scores at the range were pretty good at 17, 12 and 10 yards. Got to work on that support hand grip next.

Carry everywhere you can legally carry and be careful when visiting Walmarts!

Posted by: WarEagle82 at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (+Kpte)

354 Weasel and Blake, Thanks for the replies about the bayonet. I'll just keep an eye open for one. It's not something I need any time soon.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (bmdz3)

355 I have a pig-sticker for my AR. But it's such a short rifle that the pig would probably get in first licks.

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (rvj2+)

356 9mm has already been recommended, so I guess I'll say #3 should be .50 Beowulf. I haven't got one myself, but from what I gather the selling points are that it'll use the same mags as 5.56 /.300BLK, and it's also really big.
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at August 11, 2019 09:43 PM (f0Pv6)


So the .50 Beowolf is a barrel change only?

I thought the .458 SOCOM was a direct swap out of the barrel, no other changes needed.

Or is this true for both the thumpers?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (1g7ch)

357 I'll just keep an eye open for one. It's not something I need any time soon.


You never know when you'll need a bayonet until you need a bayonet.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2019 09:52 PM (fuK7c)

358 354 Weasel and Blake, Thanks for the replies about the bayonet. I'll just keep an eye open for one. It's not something I need any time soon.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (bmdz3)
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You might try Collectors Firearms in TX. They may know of a source if they don't have a few. Gun shows almost always have them but at gun show prices.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:54 PM (MVjcR)

359 I'm not a hunter, but if I had to hunt hogs in TX, I'm thinking the ol' AK would do nicely for it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2019 09:54 PM (LXVpk)

360 354 Weasel and Blake, Thanks for the replies about the bayonet. I'll just keep an eye open for one. It's not something I need any time soon.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (bmdz3)
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Be warned: You've created an itch that will need to be scratched!

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:55 PM (WEBkv)

361 354 Weasel and Blake, Thanks for the replies about the bayonet. I'll just keep an eye open for one. It's not something I need any time soon.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (bmdz3)
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Might check a gun show, too. There won't be a deal, at least, in my experience, because those guys tend to know what they have.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:56 PM (WEBkv)

362 I'm no gun expert, but one-handed shooting might be a good place for a double-action revolver. Of course, you don't get as many shots.

Posted by: MW at August 11, 2019 09:56 PM (hNTtn)

363 355 I have a pig-sticker for my AR. But it's such a short rifle that the pig would probably get in first licks.
Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (rvj2+)
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Then use a Garand. Miss with the bullets and bayonet, there's always clubbing!

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:56 PM (WEBkv)

364 Well the ONT will be along any minute. Thank you all for stopping by and hanging out. Hope to see you all next week!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (MVjcR)

365 Hog-hunting. I've shot all mine with Rem 7400 (semiauto-OMG!) in .243 Win. Ranges 90 yds to 240. Head shots-they drop in their tracks.

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (rvj2+)

366 364 Well the ONT will be along any minute. Thank you all for stopping by and hanging out. Hope to see you all next week!
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (MVjcR)
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And thanks for hosting another fine mess, I mean, thread!

Later!

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (WEBkv)

367 351...

Practically anything from a 30-30 on up. If you're hunting over baited fields, rifle length and weight aren't a factor. Hunting in the woods? Short and compact is the way to go. Personally, I like my 450 Bushmaster chambered AR-15, and my second choice is a Browning model 71 (Winchester clone) chambered in 348 Winchester.

Posted by: WVinMN at August 11, 2019 09:57 PM (pV4s0)

368 'Night Blake!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 09:58 PM (MVjcR)

369 Is it easy to fly with firearms as checked luggage?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 11, 2019 09:59 PM (u82oZ)

370 'Night Weasel and WeaselDog.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:59 PM (q9nin)

371 AR15 3- 5.56, 300 blackout and 6.5 creedmoore
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 11, 2019 09:49 PM (+Z8GU)


Looks like the 6.5 is a AR-10 platform?
That would be next hobby, maybe...

Otherwise on the low end 9mm to .50 thumper.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 10:01 PM (1g7ch)

372 A lot of Hog Hunting is done late at night, over bars baited with Cosmopolitans.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 10:01 PM (QzJWU)

373 369 Is it easy to fly with firearms as checked luggage?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 11, 2019 09:59 PM (u82oZ)
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Yep. It sure is. Just declare it at the ticket counter. Also, read your airlines rules in advance and print a copy to take to the airport.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 10:01 PM (MVjcR)

374 370 'Night Weasel and WeaselDog.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2019 09:59 PM (q9nin)
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'Night Ben Had!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (MVjcR)

375 So the .50 Beowolf is a barrel change only?

I thought the .458 SOCOM was a direct swap out of the barrel, no other changes needed.

Or is this true for both the thumpers?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 09:51 PM (1g7ch)


I was under the impression that both of them only required Barrel/BCG swaps. A casual Bing'ing of the topic seems to confirm this, but should probably be investigated more thoroughly before spending any money.

Posted by: Lazy Messenger at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (f0Pv6)

376 Nood ONT.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (u82oZ)

377 Then use a Garand. Miss with the bullets and bayonet, there's always clubbing!
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 11, 2019 09:56 PM (WEBkv)

Ok, blake, this will date me, but back 100 years ago when I went through basic, bayoneting and butt-strokes were actually taught. Reinforced with bludgeoning each other in the pugil stick arena.

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (rvj2+)

378 372 A lot of Hog Hunting is done late at night, over bars baited with Cosmopolitans.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2019 10:01 PM (QzJWU)
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Ha!!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (MVjcR)

379 362 ... "I'm no gun expert, but one-handed shooting might be a good place for a double-action revolver. Of course, you don't get as many shots."

MW, I believe the double action revolver is the best handgun for training and developing good shooting habits. Some of the handgun records of the 1930s and 40s were set using what came to be called Smith and Wesson K-frame revolvers, especially the Model 10 in 38 special.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (bmdz3)

380 If you're flying with firearms, put all your valuables with the gun - TSA is required to lock/seal bags bags with weapons, and only supervisors can open them.

I knew a guy who doesn't even shoot, who got a pistol just to pack with his pro video camera, after "They'll Steal Anything" pinched his old one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 11, 2019 10:05 PM (LXVpk)

381 Almost time for bed. Thanks to Weasel for the thread and everyone who participates. It's a great way to close out the weekend.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 10:06 PM (bmdz3)

382 "this idiot on Twatter keeps telling me how easy it is to make a sillyvillian go full auto, by just removing one bit of metal."

There is actually a specific reason that myth won't die. Two reasons, really. Neither of them is safe or particularly reliable.

There are however other fairly well-demonstrated methods. People have been posting .gif instructions online after the bumpstock ban started pissing everyone off. Aside from the legality issues (people doing it publicly are SOT's who are actually allowed to), it's not nearly as useful as most people think.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at August 11, 2019 10:06 PM (67XdO)

383 MW, I believe the double action revolver is the best handgun for training and developing good shooting habits. Some of the handgun records of the 1930s and 40s were set using what came to be called Smith and Wesson K-frame revolvers, especially the Model 10 in 38 special.
Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (bmdz3)

Model 10 - the Aviators special. Shot one-handed! And we're back on track.

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 10:06 PM (rvj2+)

384 I faddideled around with my 6.5 Grendel I built (I've an acquaintance who says you BUILD an AK, you assemble and AR, whatever) A bit persnickety with the food I'm feeding it. and it doesn't like being force fed... only 4 rounds in a four round magazine even if you can get five in there. Iron sights as back up, Patriot Arms red dot with magnifier, which is a new concept to me. anyway down to a 3 round group clustered within an inch of the black. freehand. So, it's me, not the machine. More practice and there is some custom ammo for sale for maybe elk with it this year. Practice, practice, practice

McGyveer, over

Posted by: McGyver at August 11, 2019 10:08 PM (gMngZ)

385 No, Weasel, don't turn out the lights; I'm just getting started!

Ah, heck.

Posted by: RI Red at August 11, 2019 10:11 PM (rvj2+)

386 I was under the impression that both of them only required Barrel/BCG swaps. A casual Bing'ing of the topic seems to confirm this, but should probably be investigated more thoroughly before spending any money.
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at August 11, 2019 10:02 PM (f0Pv6)


Thanks, Wiki will only get you so far...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 11, 2019 10:13 PM (1g7ch)

387 And, ThanX! Weasel, even tho I am late to the party again

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at August 11, 2019 10:15 PM (gMngZ)

388 Good night everyone!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2019 10:22 PM (29Nrd)

389 What are the best three calibers for AR-15s.

Thinking of a new hobby and I think of getting some stripped lowers (PSA are $40 / ea) and building a trio.

Obviously 5.56. So that would be number zero.
What be the other three?

Probably Willowed, but.... 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 x 39 (requires special magazines), and now 350 Legend. The Grendel is the best. What it should have been to begin with.

Posted by: Agitator at August 11, 2019 10:23 PM (m9DnX)

390 I missed gun thread because wife actually did me a solid and went to see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood with me.

She didn't like it but she went! Good on her.

I did hit the range yesterday. The theme was one handed firing drills. Non-firing hand held limp. I tried bladed (bullseye) stances and more defensive stances, did some one handed Mozambique drills. All performed with either my Ruger 1911 or the CZ p07 with the .22 Kadet adapter.

I'm...still not great firing one hand. But I did see more improvement than last week or better technique. The Nurse out shot me most of the time

You know, the 1911 is not that bad to fire one handed. One of the morons (take a bow) mentioned it was designed for Cav usage and it really does work pretty well one handed. Food for thought. I'll try my other 45s, the XD and Glock and whatever else creeps into the range bag.

Still a good day.

More training needed but a good day.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 12, 2019 12:34 AM (xJa6I)

391
Hey you named your gun Kimber too. Imagine that. :-)

I shoot the Ultra SIS 3" which looks a lot like that one.

Posted by: Sapwolf at August 12, 2019 04:16 AM (PRyLN)

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