The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Look how well this poll worked out for good old Jeb Bush! As much as we want to know what is coming, we simply can't predict anything this far out. Biden and several other frothing-at-the-mouth Democrats are beating President Trump in the polls? Sure...I'll buy that. How many people are actually taking this stuff seriously 16 months before the election? Not many...of that I am sure. Only political junkies and the propagandists in the media care about these things, and they pimp them to manipulate public opinion.

Jeb Bush surges to lead GOP pack in new 2016 poll

1. Jeb Bush 22%

2. Scott Walker 17%

3. Marco Rubio 14%

4. Ben Carson 11%

5. Mike Huckabee 9%

6. Rand Paul 7%

7. Rick Perry 5%

8. Ted Cruz 4%

9. Chris Christie 4%

10. Carly Fiorina 2%

11. Donald Trump 1%

12. Lindsey Graham 1%

13. John Kasich 1%

14. Bobby Jindal 0%

15. Rick Santorum 0%

16. George Pataki 0%

I'll tell you what's important: GOTV efforts and cleaning up the voter rolls. I think President Trump knows how to campaign, but the Democrats will redouble their efforts to flood the rolls with illegals and whip their faithful into a frenzy of Trump-hate. So the Republican party needs to get off its collective lazy ass and do what needs to be done.

No, I'm not confident at all that they will do their job. It is up to the voters...the Trump supporters who fought and beat the inside-the-beltway corporatists in 2016 to do it again, and maybe get rid of a bunch of the wishy-washy crypto-Never-Trumpers while they are at it.

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Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Thought I'd LEAP into this thread. Skip the scream for a change.

Posted by: The Girls at the Red-Light House at June 18, 2019 11:01 AM (ClOmq)

2 First (not Biden)

Posted by: Roy at June 18, 2019 11:01 AM (ABjxW)

3 herro

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:01 AM (ZfRYq)

4 Joe Biden will never be president.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 18, 2019 11:02 AM (6TaZn)

5 Willowed:

John Legend is on CNBC right now saying abortion laws in Georgia is literally worse than Hitler.

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John, dude.

Hyperbole is an effective rhetorical tactic used to illustrate a concept by arguing the absurd extremes.

You, sir, are falling prey to actually believing in your own absurd bullshit.
Posted by: fixerupper

Saving lives is somehow worse than a sonofabitch that took 6 million lives.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 18, 2019 11:02 AM (sRczR)

6 So what you are saying is Hickenlooper has a chance!

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:02 AM (ZfRYq)

7 Trump is going to rally his voters for the next year plus. Literally.

Posted by: Roy at June 18, 2019 11:02 AM (ABjxW)

8 Monkey!

Posted by: Heirloominati at June 18, 2019 11:03 AM (P9Idj)

9 Polls are propaganda.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 18, 2019 11:03 AM (88+cf)

10 No, I'm not confident at all that they will do their job.

I still say 2020 with be a Trump blowout. The MFM is trying their best to fool the public but the public will not be fooled.

Posted by: Vic at June 18, 2019 11:03 AM (mpXpK)

11 John Legend is on CNBC right now saying abortion laws in Georgia is literally worse than Hitler.
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But, but, but, their mistresses or underage prostitutes may need the services of an abortionist one day....

Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 18, 2019 11:03 AM (vg8iE)

12 Scott Walker was my pick in the Primary. I was sad to see him flame out so early.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 18, 2019 11:04 AM (JUOKG)

13 Trump is going to rally his voters for the next year plus. Literally.
Posted by: Roy at June 18, 2019 11:02 AM (ABjxW)

There are no venues big enough.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 18, 2019 11:04 AM (6TaZn)

14 He started out on top, then, low....energy.... took over.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (DuZls)

15 So, who's in 11th place of the Dem primary right now?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (OJXf7)

16 The wheels are closing in and the walls are falling off the bus for Trump. Early night.

Posted by: Archer at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (gmo/4)

17 @15 Ryan

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (ZfRYq)

18 Careful with the John Legend disses. Chrissy Tiegen might "clap back" and "throw shade" on Twitter and I just can't even.

Posted by: James OBrien at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (3ldzE)

19 The fraud machine is going to be running at full tilt in the next cycle. Something's got to be done, you can't have a Republic if the vote is debased.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (J+mig)

20 So, who's in 11th place of the Dem primary right now?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (OJXf7)

A Che t-shirt.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (7u6m0)

21 John Legend is........

Fuck that guy.
He's a singer. A traveling minstrel.
I'm way past fed up with actors and musicians telling me what to think.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 18, 2019 11:06 AM (88+cf)

22 FL felons' voting rights were restored in 2018 elections. Former governor candidate, Andrew Gillum, working hard to get them registered, all one million of them. FL has very strong in person voting rules, but absentee ballots are worrisome. Thankfully, Brenda Snipes is gone.

Posted by: Ever at June 18, 2019 11:06 AM (ZZDMQ)

23 @15 Whales McCain.

Posted by: Archer at June 18, 2019 11:06 AM (gmo/4)

24 John Legend called his wife "The Mayor of Twitter". Is she important on teh twatters? LOL. I have no idea since I spent no time on social media.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:06 AM (FiUMj)

25 Crypto-Leftists. Call them what they are.

Corporatism is another form of collectivism, one with an open profit motive and better branding. It still means "the whole" is wealthy while individuals get stuck in debt and poverty. Only the trappings and mechanics differ.

I would never have said things like this before, but the past decade's been an eye-opener.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 18, 2019 11:07 AM (AM1GF)

26 When people are willing to wait 40 hours for a Trump rally, I think it's safe to say they are going to vote for him. Even though my vote is useless (being in CA), I'll crawl if need be to vote for him next year.

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:07 AM (a0IVu)

27 So, who's in 11th place of the Dem primary right now?

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Statistical dead heat between Hicken and Looper. Maybe they should join forces.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 18, 2019 11:08 AM (mvenn)

28 Heh. I was a Jindal supporter early on.

BTW, only one of my kids was old enough to vote last time. All three will be in '20. We do our part!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at June 18, 2019 11:08 AM (ls99H)

29 "It is up to the voters...the Trump supporters who fought and beat the inside-the-beltway corporatists in 2016 to do it again, and maybe get rid of a bunch of the wishy-washy crypto-Never-Trumpers while they are at it."

Is this, like, coded language CBD? A dog whistle that inspires us to "remove" Bill Kristol, David French, Jonah Goldstein? No, don't answer. Nuff said. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:08 AM (m79Dg)

30 Oh, man, Jeb. I forgot who said it, but the line "The answer to a question nobody is asking" is one of my favorite quotes.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 18, 2019 11:08 AM (l8gTz)

31 John Legend called his wife "The Mayor of Twitter". Is she important on teh twatters?

Well, I didn't vote for her.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 18, 2019 11:09 AM (l8gTz)

32 Legend of Wooley Swamp >Larry Legend >John Legend.

Posted by: Quint at June 18, 2019 11:09 AM (n13/j)

33 Gonna be an early night!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 18, 2019 11:09 AM (hjGYN)

34 Don't count Pataki out

Posted by: Uncledave at June 18, 2019 11:09 AM (3NPQF)

35 So, who's in 11th place of the Dem primary right now?

********

Statistical dead heat between Hicken and Looper.

zero point zero

Posted by: Grump928(C) is rich in niacin and B vitamins at June 18, 2019 11:09 AM (t82DG)

36
"Trump supporters who fought and beat the inside-the-beltway corporatists in 2016 to do it again, and maybe get rid of a bunch of the wishy-washy crypto-Never-Trumpers while they are at it."

I'm in.

Posted by: BignJames at June 18, 2019 11:09 AM (ykq7q)

37 BTW, only one of my kids was old enough to vote last time. All three will be in '20. We do our part!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at June 18, 2019 11:08 AM (ls99H)

And you had no idea how important it was when you got your wife drunk those times.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:09 AM (m79Dg)

38 Getting anti-fraud measures in place is important. Hopefully Trump and his army of half-trained monkeys is thinking about that.

Also I forgot to take the garbage out today and I'm only half awake and it took forever to get to work and I hate everything and everyone.

How are you, Horde?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:10 AM (bcbK8)

39 Also I forgot to take the garbage out today and I'm only half awake and it took forever to get to work and I hate everything and everyone.

How are you, Horde?

Happy Second Monday.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 18, 2019 11:10 AM (l8gTz)

40 WTF happened with Carly Fiorina anyway????

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:10 AM (bcbK8)

41 between Hickenlooper and Buttlegieg. The president needs to sign and executive order that all votes are write ins.

Posted by: Quint at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (n13/j)

42 Happy Second Monday.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 18, 2019 11:10 AM (l8gTz)

Truer words were never spoken...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (bcbK8)

43 Keep those cameras ready. Opportunities to photograph fraud will be everywhere.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (axyOa)

44 If I said I was mayor of twitter just because some moistened bint lobbed a smart phone at me they'd put me away!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (gC2IV)

45 Oh, man, Jeb. I forgot who said it, but the line "The answer to a question nobody is asking" is one of my favorite quotes.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 18, 2019 11:08 AM (l8gTz)
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If "Jeb" is the answer, what the hell was the question?!

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (DuZls)

46 Don't count Pataki out
Posted by: Uncledave at June 18, 2019 11:09 AM (3NPQF)

Never give up, never surrender. My money is on George Takei.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (m79Dg)

47 20 So, who's in 11th place of the Dem primary right now?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (OJXf7)

A Che t-shirt.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (7u6m0)

Communism is for figs

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (bcbK8)

48 If this has already been answered, I apologize...

They scream when the question of citizenship ship might be asked on the census. They screamed when it was suggested showing ID when voting was racist, burdensome, etc. Motor voter, absentee ballots, ballot harvesting, etc.

So why aren't the usual suspects screeching about the Real ID and my special gold star on my driver's license, which 'allows' me to fly, and which required my BIRTH CERTIFICATE to obtain, hmmm?

Okay, hit me. What am I missing?

Posted by: Heirloominati at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (P9Idj)

49 >>Oh, man, Jeb. I forgot who said it, but the line "The answer to a question nobody is asking" is one of my favorite quotes.

I like Dana Carvey's line: He reminds me of a junior high vice principal.

Posted by: Frasier Crane (I'm coming back!) at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (F8YM0)

50 18
Careful with the John Legend disses. Chrissy Tiegen might "clap back" and "throw shade" on Twitter and I just can't even.

Posted by: James OBrien at June 18, 2019
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I don't understand this phrase. In my hot climate, "shade" is a great thing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (ClOmq)

51 How does a Democrat surge in a poll of Republicans?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (Vy7tf)

52 If I said I was mayor of twitter just because some moistened bint lobbed a smart phone at me they'd put me away!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (gC2IV)
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If Trump had said that, they'd tick off another "lie" on the ~~Joe~~Trump-Lies meter.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (DuZls)

53 If "Jeb" is the answer, what the hell was the question?!
Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (DuZls)

Who would be a good ATM for us to elect President?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:13 AM (m79Dg)

54 This poll tells you three things.

1) Why people now polling so low are still in it and trying
2) How little polling matters this early
3) How much impact media coverage has on polling

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:13 AM (39g3+)

55 Okay, hit me. What am I missing?
Posted by: Heirloominati at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (P9Idj)

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:13 AM (bcbK8)

56 How does a Democrat surge in a poll of Republicans?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (Vy7tf)
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McCain and Romney ended up on top. So you tell me.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:13 AM (DuZls)

57 Jeb was so low energy and boring. That's all I remember about his campaign. And Kasich was into hugging and pizza.

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:13 AM (a0IVu)

58 I have my doubts about it the sample used to project the percentages. Polling is based on statistics and statistics is just math.

Posted by: Lurking Cheshire Cat at June 18, 2019 11:13 AM (ZnYly)

59 WTF happened with Carly Fiorina anyway????
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She had that awful face thing going on.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 18, 2019 11:13 AM (G2VDV)

60 Posted by: Roland THTG at June 18, 2019 11:06 AM (88+cf

I liked society better when his kind couldn't be buried in sacred ground!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 18, 2019 11:14 AM (hjGYN)

61 40 WTF happened with Carly Fiorina anyway????

She did Non-Binary Ben's Sunday Special podcast a few weeks back. It was meh.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 18, 2019 11:14 AM (O8WFE)

62 Please clap

Posted by: Jeb at June 18, 2019 11:14 AM (O2RFr)

63 If Chrissy Teigen didn't have big boobs no one would care about her.

She's not that attractive, she isn't particularly smart or insightful.

Just big boobs.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:15 AM (ZfRYq)

64 Okay, hit me. What am I missing?
Posted by: Heirloominati at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (P9Idj)
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Boof!
POW!
Bam!

Posted by: Adam West Batman at June 18, 2019 11:15 AM (DuZls)

65 damn, I remember being in the Scott Walker, 1st choice, Ted Cruz, 2nd choice camp.

And I still cannot understand how Scott Walker managed to run such an incredibly incompetent campaign, right from the start. I think Cruz's biggest problem was saying "If all y'all assholes would just do things the way we do in Texas, you wouldn't have any worries". That works pretty good in Texas, but it doesn't work anywhere else, surprisingly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 11:15 AM (Kpl3J)

66
WTF happened with Carly Fiorina anyway????
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I think she was too corporatist --

Me for Cruz and Paul, youngest for Carson and Paul, we ended up with Cruz in primary. Anecdotally, there were big lines at the county to absentee vote on spring break. When all these college kids were asking for an (R) ballot, a few of the election ladies started losing their friendly demeanor. I think they expected (D) absentee for college kids.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 18, 2019 11:15 AM (MIKMs)

67 For two years most of these people who are polled (if they're even real, tell the truth, sampled properly, etc) have been receiving a steady diet of MSM bullsh!t. This time around, DJT has consolidated almost all of the GOP election apparatus underneath him and all these PAC's and committees are going to be working FOR HIM this time around. The airwaves are going to be totally covered up with the exposure of yuuuuuuge Dem corruption and radical positions of that party, juxtaposed with the unbelievable success of DJT. I don't want to be overly confident, but I think it will be a bloodbath before the general election even starts.

Posted by: Shattered Credibility Lawfirm, LLC. - Clients wanted! DC NYC LA at June 18, 2019 11:16 AM (sqqD4)

68 I worry that three states important to PT winning: NC, WI, and MI now have D governors, but had R governors in 2016. Are there others that flipped? (Other than ME.) Any D to R that could help? Scott being on the ballot, plus being governor, is the only reason FL did not get a full blue ticket in 2018.

Posted by: Ever at June 18, 2019 11:16 AM (ZZDMQ)

69 59
WTF happened with Carly Fiorina anyway????

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She had that awful face thing going on.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 18, 2019
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I like her name, "Carly," and she was a handsome woman then. But her lack of experience and lack of ultimate success (she's the one who apparently kneecapped Hewlett-Packard when she was in charge) handicapped her. Even the videos showing her playing with dogs, trying to make her more approachable, didn't help.

None of the bunch was willing to talk outside the standard political box like Trump, that was 99% of it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 18, 2019 11:16 AM (ClOmq)

70 A "Hickenlooper-Buttlegieg" bumper sticker would fill the whole rear end of one of them tiny electric cars.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 18, 2019 11:16 AM (O8WFE)

71 2020 is the GOP's big and last chance to dump Trump. They will pull out all covert stops. I'd like to see more red meat from Trump and less attempts to schmooze the GOPe. I also think long-form interviews with people with Stephanopoulis are regressive and ridiculous. They depress the base. Stop trying to win these people over. They hate you, always have, always will. Go on OANN, go on CBN, reach out to the bloggers.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 18, 2019 11:16 AM (H8QX8)

72 She's not that attractive, she isn't particularly smart or insightful.

Just big boobs.
Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:15 AM (ZfRYq)

TV casting stuck in the '80s....T&A baby!

Posted by: BignJames at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (ykq7q)

73 This poll tells you three things.

1) Why people now polling so low are still in it and trying.....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:13 AM (39g3+)

Actually, the poll doesn't tell us the answer to this. The answer is

"What is the most efficient way to offshore tax money and not report it on your income, Alex."

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (m79Dg)

74 Swallowell has announced his gun control plan.

It's just a hair short of a casus belli. Maybe not short of it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (bcbK8)

75 Careful with the John Legend disses. Chrissy Tiegen might "clap back" and "throw shade" on Twitter and I just can't even.

Posted by: James OBrien at June 18, 2019
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I don't understand this phrase. In my hot climate, "shade" is a great thing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Groovy, man. *snaps fingers

Posted by: rickb223 at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (sRczR)

76 It was only 3-4 years ago, but that primary seems like ancient history to me. The names Jeb Bush, Carly Fiorina, Chris Christie.....I'd forgotten they existed.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (FiUMj)

77 I would never have said things like this before, but the past decade's been an eye-opener.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 18, 2019 11:07 AM (AM1GF)

Indeed. We've learned a lot of things, or relearned them. The kind of people who seek absolute power aren't very picky about the trappings of it. Whether it's a socialist collective or a corporatist one matters not a bit to them. They're also not above presenting the public with both as a false choice, in a divide and conquer strategy.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (J+mig)

78 72 She's not that attractive, she isn't particularly smart or insightful.

Just big boobs.
Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:15 AM (ZfRYq)

TV casting stuck in the '80s....T&A baby!
Posted by: BignJames at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (ykq7q)

Make T&A great again

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (bcbK8)

79 63
If Chrissy Teigen didn't have big boobs no one would care about her.

She's not that attractive, she isn't particularly smart or insightful.

Just big boobs.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019
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She's kind of short and chunky too, isn't she?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (ClOmq)

80 My original top 2 were Walker and Perry.

Nice going there on my part. Hell, I think Pataki lasted longer then either of those two.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 18, 2019 11:18 AM (O8WFE)

81 I wonder if anyone outside of the NYC-D.C. axis realizes that nobody outside of NYC and D.C. even knows who John Legend is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 11:18 AM (Kpl3J)

82 Posted by: Heirloominati at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (P9Idj)

Comrade, the real ID has nothing to do with voting, but it will very helpful when we're assigning people to the camps!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 18, 2019 11:18 AM (hjGYN)

83 >>2020 is the GOP's big and last chance to dump Trump. They will pull out all covert stops. I'd like to see more red meat from Trump and less attempts to schmooze the GOPe. I also think long-form interviews with people with Stephanopoulis are regressive and ridiculous. They depress the base. Stop trying to win these people over. They hate you, always have, always will. Go on OANN, go on CBN, reach out to the bloggers.

I don't feel a bit depressed by Trump doing interviews with the msm. He managed to get the left to condemn getting information from foreigners, hi Hillary, and demonstrated his enormous work ethic.

Preaching to the choir is nice but Trump is going to need more than just his base to win in 2020. He needs Independents and persuadable Dems just like ever other election.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 18, 2019 11:19 AM (PxX58)

84 @65 I think much of the Horde was Walker then Cruz then Trump.

Walker waffled on illegal immigration, looked weak on it by aping Trump then walking it back, and it only reinforced his lack of conviction that he showed by letting his supporters swing in the wind in the John Doe cases in Wisconsin.

Cruz had an Eddie Haskell problem that he never overame.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:19 AM (ZfRYq)

85 None of the bunch was willing to talk outside the standard political box like Trump, that was 99% of it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 18, 2019 11:16 AM (ClOmq)

Fear. Fear, thy name is republican politician. They were all stricken with it. Except Trump. Did anyone learn the lesson? Hardly. Maybe Lindsey Graham has, a little.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 18, 2019 11:19 AM (H8QX8)

86 [So the Republican party needs to get off its collective lazy ass and do what needs to be done.]

When it comes to the GOPe, it ain't laziness.

Posted by: davidt at June 18, 2019 11:19 AM (geIq4)

87 61 40 WTF happened with Carly Fiorina anyway????

She did Non-Binary Ben's Sunday Special podcast a few weeks back. It was meh.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 18, 2019 11:14 AM (O8WFE)

Ah, good to know. I'm not going to give Ben any clicks but good to know

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:19 AM (bcbK8)

88 Careful with the John Legend disses. Chrissy Tiegen might "clap back" and "throw shade" on Twitter and I just can't even.

Posted by: James OBrien at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (3ldzE)

That will be front page news on Yahoo for days

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (OLCnA)

89 Next person that uses the phrase "clap back" gets a weekend in Aruba.

With Sheila Jackson Lee.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (Boy/L)

90 Donald Trump at 1%?!

So you're saying there's a chance!

Posted by: Lloyd Swallwell at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (DuZls)

91 Didn't our esteemed host plump for Cruz for a while? Not because Trump was "racist" or any of that nonsense, but because Ace didn't think Trump had as good a chance of winning as Cruz did?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (ClOmq)

92 84
@65 I think much of the Horde was Walker then Cruz then Trump.

Walker waffled on illegal immigration, looked weak on it by aping
Trump then walking it back, and it only reinforced his lack of
conviction that he showed by letting his supporters swing in the wind in
the John Doe cases in Wisconsin.

Cruz had an Eddie Haskell problem that he never overame.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:19 AM (ZfRYq)

Not to mention his Glenn Beck problem.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (N39Ws)

93 @65 I think much of the Horde was Walker then Cruz then Trump.

It took a while to realize that Trump was that kid that put the cherry bomb in the toilet back in grade school.

Posted by: Roy at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (ABjxW)

94 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (Y9Ocz)

95 Next person that uses the phrase "clap back" gets a weekend in Aruba.

With Sheila Jackson Lee.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (Boy/L)
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I don't really want the clap back.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (DuZls)

96 Almost daily events where conservatives/republicans are jeered, chased out of restaurants, beaten or in general treated very poorly.
Who do they expect to answer truthfully on these things?

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (DB16e)

97 I haven't been reading much lately so this might have been discussed already...

On 8 and 4 Chan they're currently talking about how 8chan was made into an FBI honeypot [of a kind anyway]. The usual baiting people into saying dumb things etc. But arrests are being made, raids whatever. This, I think, is mostly an 8chan thing but rumors are swirling around as they usually do that anybody who has posted on any chans are going to be doxxed by the feds. The more interesting part is how they're analyzing the fbis methods and profiling them.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 18, 2019 11:21 AM (Wws74)

98 GOPe will likely look aside as dems further corrupt voter rolls if it means 4 years closer to comfy and profitable Uni-party rule.

Posted by: Emil Moresi at June 18, 2019 11:21 AM (TIsja)

99 I honestly think Walker decided he just didn't want to play in the big leagues. He had a long, wearying assault on him and it convinced him that politics sucks and he didn't want to do it anymore.

Too bad. Walker was one of my top 2 choices at this time in 2016, ahead of Cruz, actually.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:21 AM (bcbK8)

100 53 If "Jeb" is the answer, what the hell was the question?!
Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:11 AM (DuZls)
*******
What is Low Energy?

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 18, 2019 11:21 AM (BqBId)

101 She's kind of short and chunky too, isn't she?

Short and chunky I'm fine with but brainless and plastic, not so much.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:21 AM (39g3+)

102 93 @65 I think much of the Horde was Walker then Cruz then Trump.

It took a while to realize that Trump was that kid that put the cherry bomb in the toilet back in grade school.
Posted by: Roy at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (ABjxW)

AND that it was good that he was that kid

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (bcbK8)

103 Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 18, 2019 11:16 AM (H8QX

An you imagine an Ace.Trump podcast!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (hjGYN)

104 I think much of the Horde was Walker then Cruz then Trump.

That's exactly where I was. Husband was trump all the way... I told him there is no way trump could win

Posted by: It's me donna at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (O2RFr)

105 When it comes to the GOPe, it ain't laziness.
Posted by: davidt at June 18, 2019 11:19 AM (geIq4)

They remind me of that line in Braveheart, where Longshanks says one of the Scottish leaders sold out for matching lands and titles in England, and another one "for much less."

Selling out for fire sale prices is their story.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (J+mig)

106 Not to mention his Glenn Beck problem.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 11:20 AM (N39Ws)

Cruz's chances were long gone by that time.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (ZfRYq)

107 AND that it was good that he was that kid
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (bcbK

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Real good he done that.

Posted by: Axeman, not wanting to be wished to the cornfield at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (DuZls)

108 I was open to a few options...Cruz, Walker and Rubio. I didn't think Trump was serious so I never thought about him as a viable option until well into it.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (FiUMj)

109 I'll take hot, nice and loyal over smarts any day.

Hindsight, you are a bitch.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (bcbK8)

110 107 AND that it was good that he was that kid
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (bcbK
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Real good he done that.
Posted by: Axeman, not wanting to be wished to the cornfield at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (DuZls)

*nods*

Mm hmm

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:23 AM (bcbK8)

111 I think much of the Horde was Walker then Cruz then Trump.
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This was me.

In WI, Walker looked like a guy who would fight. He didn't look that way on the nationals stage. After that, Cruz was the only one I trusted to be able to actually articulate a conservative position more complex than "Taxes bad."

But once it became clear that Trump was in it to win it, he was the guy.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:23 AM (OJXf7)

112 85
None of the bunch was willing to talk outside the standard political box like Trump, that was 99% of it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 18, 2019 11:16 AM (ClOmq)

Fear. Fear, thy name is republican politician. They were all
stricken with it. Except Trump. Did anyone learn the lesson? Hardly.
Maybe Lindsey Graham has, a little.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 18, 2019
*
*
. . .
And they all listened devoutly to their "political consultants," who were governed by the same kind of fear.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 18, 2019 11:23 AM (ClOmq)

113 They remind me of that line in Braveheart, where Longshanks says one of the Scottish leaders sold out for matching lands and titles in England, and another one "for much less."

Selling out for fire sale prices is their story.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:22 AM (J+mig)

GOPe: We have not yet begun to surrender

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2019 11:23 AM (OLCnA)

114 What happened to..
And what about.....
Why didn't............

Donald J Trump is the answer to these questions.
Which, and I didn't (and don't) think he's all that and bag of chips, he was the best of the options presented.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 18, 2019 11:23 AM (88+cf)

115 Paul -Cruz- Trump. I realized early on Paul was going nowhere.

Posted by: Quint at June 18, 2019 11:23 AM (n13/j)

116 Having lived with Perry as Governor for a lot of years, I wasn't surprised that he faded fast, and it WASN'T for political reasons. You know how we always comment on the incredible drive and energy that Trump has? You could tell that Perry just didn't have it anymore. He kind of liked the idea of campaigning, he liked the attention, but he didn't want to have to actually work at anything. That's why the Energy Dep't job is good for him - a job with some prestige and some nice perks where he doesn't have to ever actually do anything except chat up some employees from time to time. Perry was at the point where that's all he really wanted anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 11:24 AM (Kpl3J)

117 So there was a shooting at the Raptors parade. That's kinda sad. Toronto used to be safe, clean city. Then Trudeau decided to allow 1/2 the world immigrate to Canada. And now 2 generations later....there ya go.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:24 AM (FiUMj)

118 The only thing I'm truly scared about is the Democrats vote "harvesting" operations.

They took it for a spin in 2018, by 2020 they will have perfected it and wiped out the GOP in Orange County.

Trump and the GOP don't figure out how to put the kibosh on that and it's going to be nearly impossible to win.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at June 18, 2019 11:24 AM (HY0gv)

119 Too bad. Walker was one of my top 2 choices at this time in 2016, ahead of Cruz, actually.

Yeah in the opening days of the campaign this list looked extremely good: lots of more conservative types, young, interesting people. Carly even looked intriguing, despite her failure at HP (not entirely her fault, given the time period involved and the shift in tech).

I mean Jindal was a boring wonk but a great thinker and very conservative. Walker, Perry, and Cruz were big time conservative voices. Carson, Rubio, and Paul had their flaws but were light years ahead of many previous presidential electoral choices (hello, McCain, Bush, and Dole). It looked like a really good pack of candidates, so much better than what the Dems are floating right now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:25 AM (39g3+)

120 Trump from the get go. He had moxie.

Posted by: Archer at June 18, 2019 11:25 AM (gmo/4)

121 Perry just didn't have it anymore. He kind of liked the idea of campaigning, he liked the attention, but he didn't want to have to actually work at anything. That's why the Energy Dep't job is good for him - a job with some prestige and some nice perks where he doesn't have to ever actually do anything except chat up some employees from time to time. Perry was at the point where that's all he really wanted anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 11:24 AM (Kpl3J)

I think he was handicapped by his health.

And by the fact that the press hates Texas, except Austin

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:25 AM (bcbK8)

122 it's a shame about Scott Walker I really liked what he did.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 18, 2019 11:25 AM (WZlYn)

123 Memba Scott Walker and his "Throne of Skulls?"

Those were the days. And then, nothing.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:26 AM (ZfRYq)

124 I think much of the Horde was Walker then Cruz then Trump.

Walker waffled on illegal immigration, looked weak on it by aping Trump then walking it back, and it only reinforced his lack of conviction that he showed by letting his supporters swing in the wind in the John Doe cases in Wisconsin.

Cruz had an Eddie Haskell problem that he never overame.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:19 AM (ZfRYq)

I wasn't. I was Cruz early then switched to Trump. But unlike some others that were here (and now aren't) I didn't take it personally that Trump beat out Cruz.

Hubby was on the Trump train from the get go.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:26 AM (cF8AT)

125 123 Memba Scott Walker and his "Throne of Skulls?"

Those were the days. And then, nothing.
Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:26 AM (ZfRYq)

Scott Walker Season 8-GOT'd his fan base pretty hard.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:26 AM (OJXf7)

126 Yeah, I thought Walker showed the rare GOP quality of spine in WI. Then he gets to the national stage and crumples on immigration?

And then that deer-in-the-headlights performance in the debate?

My choice was all about perceived spine. Even my hesitation about voting for Trump had to do with whether he would be the MOR squish guy he always appeared to be.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:27 AM (DuZls)

127 It's funny, looking at it now, even on day one when Trump was still a clown he was ahead of almost half the pack in my book.

From day 1 I would havevoted for him over Jeb!, Pubio, Catshit, Pataki, pre-based Lindsay Graham...and that's when we all thought Trump was in it for some PR and a quick exit.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 18, 2019 11:27 AM (O8WFE)

128 I wasn't. I was Cruz early then switched to Trump. But unlike some others that were here (and now aren't) I didn't take it personally that Trump beat out Cruz.

Hubby was on the Trump train from the get go.
Posted by: Tami

Smart man. Same here.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 18, 2019 11:27 AM (sRczR)

129 I'm by no means defending actual Nazis and terrorists, but that doesn't mean my Official Narrative and Manipulation meter must be turned off.
In the UK they've apparently sentenced some skinhead to 5 years for a post about Prince Harry being a "race traitor" and showing a meme with a gun to his head: inciting terrorism and all that.
I sort of get it.

But what rankles is a brief review of the intertube story headlines, that are all, in the headline, editorializing about how "vile" the tweet or image was etc. e.g. "Alt-alt-right-extremist sentenced for vile racist tweet" etc.

When they roll up some jihadi its never "Wahabbi-Extremist Sentenced for Vile Plans to Kill Non-Muslims" or the like. They have to be sure to tell you that certain groups and ideas are extra, extra, bad to the point that you have to fear being labelled as in the same hemisphere as the "vile, alt-whatever-extremists."

you about the "vile tweet" and "reprehensible ima

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (koNhm)

130 I'm polling at 1%??!? You're all fired.

Posted by: Donald Trump at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (Z4rgH)

131 John Legend is on CNBC right now saying abortion laws in Georgia is literally worse than Hitler.
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Indeed John, don't mention personal responsibility. That would be racist.

Posted by: Cheri at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (oiNtH)

132 So there was a shooting at the Raptors parade.
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Isn't that unpossible? Doesn't Donut land have gun control?

Posted by: the 3 second second at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (UgCsJ)

133 Is Perry still Sec. of Energy? You never hear about him.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (FiUMj)

134 Scott Walker forgot what got him where he was.
2016 required scorched earth, none of the contenders were willing to go there.
Trump DGAF, so last man standing.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (88+cf)

135 Ah the memories. I was 100% Cruz. Family was rabid Trump to the point they were insulting to any non-adherents. Even my 80 yr old otherwise calm & cool mom! To this day I swear family bonds were oddly weakened by the pro-Trump. You either sang FULL Teump praises or you were an imbecile - not merely someone to help along in understanding.

Posted by: Emil Moresi at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (TIsja)

136 We as the conservative base need to make it plain to President Trump that we will support him in cleaning up the voter rolls by any means necessary. If that means sending in Marshals along with Conservative volunteers in defiance of Court orders to do so, well so be it. Trump also needs to announce well ahead of time that there will be Conservative (not GOPe) poll watchers in urban blue polling stations on the look out for fraud. It should also be made clear that any attempt to interfere with them will be met with deadly force.
The Left will openly attempt to steal this election this time around and we must act accordingly if not this country is doomed to Civil war with a massive loss of life.

Posted by: Southdakotaconservative at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (syPRf)

137 Forget the stub at the end

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (koNhm)

138 If I was Scott Walker, I would demand political consultants face summary execution. All of them! What an absolute waste.

Frankly, anyone who seeks to rise in the Republican Party had better be a useful and proud Trump supporter, or they can just die in the flames.

Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 11:29 AM (9jPzf)

139 I still think the Republican bench in 2016 was good, or it seemed good. The fact that so many candidates evaporated, rather than fighting this spreading Leftism is part of the great unmasking.

I started out defending Trump from smears, not because I wanted him or liked him or thought he'd be a good President, just because the slurs were so stupid and false.

Honestly, I got upset being 'forced' to defend him all the time.

But once I saw him win, saw him fight and him willing to fight...I jumped on the train.

Made life at home and work hard. Most of my friends and my wife voted for Hilary.

I....I kinda hate my life sometimes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:29 AM (bcbK8)

140 But unlike some others that were here (and now aren't) I didn't take it personally that Trump beat out Cruz.

Yeah that didn't really bother me. It was a cheap shot, but that's politics. The "I like my heroes to not be prisoners" shot bothered me more, that was really low. McCain was a scumbag but being a prisoner doesn't make you less of a hero in my book.

I never trusted Trump, and rooted for Cruz up until he quit, but knew he couldn't ever win. It was more Walker-Cruz-Perry-Jindal for me. I even liked Fiorino, because it would be a thumb in the eye of the Hillary train and take away her "historic first" cachet, such as it was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:29 AM (39g3+)

141 During the 2016 election I though Trump would just be another NE liberal running as a Republican. Boy was I wrong.

Posted by: Vic at June 18, 2019 11:29 AM (mpXpK)

142 In the UK they've apparently sentenced some skinhead to 5 years for a post about Prince Harry being a "race traitor" and showing a meme with a gun to his head:

Just a flesh wound, then.

Posted by: pep at June 18, 2019 11:29 AM (wW03z)

143 If you look at that list of 2016 candidates, it was actually pretty strong. No less than 8 governors. Some strong out of the boxers - look where Ben Carson was!

Trump beat them all.

People compare the current Democrat clown car to that field, and it is really not the same at all.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:29 AM (ZfRYq)

144 " 97 I haven't been reading much lately so this might have been discussed already...

On 8 and 4 Chan they're currently talking about how 8chan was made
into an FBI honeypot [of a kind anyway]. The usual baiting people into
saying dumb things etc. But arrests are being made, raids whatever.
This, I think, is mostly an 8chan thing but rumors are swirling around
as they usually do that anybody who has posted on any chans are going to
be doxxed by the feds. The more interesting part is how they're
analyzing the fbis methods and profiling them.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 18, 2019 11:21 AM (Wws74)"
..

For those who missed it last night - which is probably most -

FBI fucked up in a court filing and inadvertently revealed their posting ID on one of the chans. They've been posting conspiracy shit blaming stuff on Russia and Israel, putting in for warrants due to 'threats' they posted themselves, and assorted misbehavior.

Page 29.
https://tinyurl.com/y3ztsyqw

There is also some question about their involvement in distributing shooter manifestos.

The entire organization needs to be dismantled and rebuilt from scratch. It's not salvageable.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at June 18, 2019 11:30 AM (67XdO)

145 Based on Trump's tweet, I suspect we are getting closer to a China trade deal.

Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:30 AM (MAstk)

146 I even remember Levin going on about how Trump was really a crypto Wilsonite in favor of the Administrative State, and who has become a real Trump convert.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 18, 2019 11:30 AM (koNhm)

147 Is Perry still Sec. of Energy? You never hear about him.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (FiUMj)

that is true, but could be a good thing.

Posted by: Quint at June 18, 2019 11:30 AM (n13/j)

148 >>Is Perry still Sec. of Energy? You never hear about him.

He's still out looking for that 3rd agency to close.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 18, 2019 11:30 AM (PxX58)

149 Whatever happened to Bobby Jindal?

Posted by: Emmie at June 18, 2019 11:31 AM (4HMW8)

150 Groovy, man. *snaps fingers"

It's a doozy!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 11:31 AM (6qErC)

151 It's just a hair short of a casus belli. Maybe not short of it.

Posted by:�Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo�at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (bcbK

They come for our guns, we come for them.

Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 11:32 AM (9jPzf)

152
I was for Cruz in the primary but realized he didn't have want it took to win. I saw Trump come down the escalator and do the interview on O'Reilly's show and thought it was a publicity stunt. As he was speaking I thought if someone like him but serious got in and said this he would win because people are fed up with years of the "elites" tearing down the country. Turns out Trump was serious and the rest is history

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2019 11:32 AM (OLCnA)

153
And Kasich was into hugging and pizza.
Posted by: IC

Nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: John Podesta at June 18, 2019 11:32 AM (aKsyK)

154 The thing is, this list of polling tells you everything you need to know about how Democrats are polling right now. Of all the top names on that list, the only one that survived late into the campaign was Jeb, and that only because they kept pumping money into him, not because he was remotely winning or had a shot.

Biden is polling well because name recognition and he seems less insane than the rest, not because he has the slimmest shot at winning. The others at the top of present polling like Buttgag, Warren, Harris, et al... probably aren't gonna be around in May of next year. Sanders has proven he can win and honestly did win the primary in 2016, so he may be.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:32 AM (39g3+)

155 55 Okay, hit me. What am I missing?
Posted by: Heirloominati at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (P9Idj)

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo

I thought it sounded familiar
*heads out to buy more ammo*

Posted by: Heirloominati at June 18, 2019 11:32 AM (P9Idj)

156 It's got to be ironic that we're talking about the current Secretary of Energy running out of steam in the election.

Posted by: Alanis Morissette at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (DuZls)

157 I still have hopes for Cruz. He might be able to learn, reflect and grow.

Several past Presidents didn't make it their first time grabbing for the big prize.

We need someone after Trump and I don't see a lot of depth in the 2024 field, though we're a ways off...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (bcbK8)

158 146 I even remember Levin going on about how Trump was really a crypto Wilsonite in favor of the Administrative State, and who has become a real Trump convert.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 18, 2019 11:30 AM (koNhm)

In fairness, didn't many of us? I doubted Trump and preferred Ted Cruz, but by gum, The Donald WAS, and IS, the right man for the job. NO other Republican could have withstood the Media Smear Machine the way The Donald has.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (ujg0T)

159 Please clap.

Posted by: Low Energy Jeb! at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (Z4rgH)

160 I wasn't. I was Cruz early then switched to Trump. But unlike some others that were here (and now aren't) I didn't take it personally that Trump beat out Cruz.

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Yeah. Actually I thought Cruz was kinda shooting himself in the foot after he got beat, so at this point I don't like him as much as I did.

I liked him, but realized that he'd never get elected to a national office. He's already got too high negatives. He's labeled. So, essentially nobody else was different except Trump. Longshot, but he won and it seems like he's doing really well considering.

Trump cut Cruz off at the knees. Ruthless. Frankly that's what we need. Its time for ruthless bastards.

Posted by: the 3 second second at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (zJ9zl)

161 Speaking of Scott Walker, my first choice, too, is there any buyer's remorse in WI over his loss? And, will PT have the coattails to bring back 2018 losses in the House, like the one to Hunt (I think that's her name) in OK?

Posted by: Ever at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (ZZDMQ)

162 I have never soured on Cruz.

But...

I can't help thinking of Mr. Haney....

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:34 AM (DuZls)

163 154 The thing is, this list of polling tells you everything you need to know about how Democrats are polling right now. Of all the top names on that list, the only one that survived late into the campaign was Jeb, and that only because they kept pumping money into him, not because he was remotely winning or had a shot.

Yeah, no. Jeb was out early. After SC, right? Didn't even make it to Florida. Rubio got that far at least.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:34 AM (ZfRYq)

164 151 It's just a hair short of a casus belli. Maybe not short of it.

Posted by:Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:17 AM (bcbK

They come for our guns, we come for them.
Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 11:32 AM (9jPzf)

Yeah, that's my 'line'. Swallowswell stops short of door to door confiscation but taken as a whole, it's a declaration of war if he enacts it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:34 AM (bcbK8)

165 Turn on CNBC is you want to see something funny. The guest. From Microsoft. LOL

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (FiUMj)

166 I wish we had an opposition party.

Posted by: rickl at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (xjiRE)

167 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

168 They come for our guns, we come for them.
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Phrasing?

Anyone?

Posted by: archer at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (/WMwm)

169 167 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

___

CHY-NA

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (FiUMj)

170 167 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

Obama's genius economic policy, duh.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (OJXf7)

171 I wish we had an opposition party.
Posted by: rickl at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (xjiRE)
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That would be divisive!

Posted by: Heb Bush at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (DuZls)

172 Turn on CNBC is you want to see something funny. The guest. From Microsoft. LOL

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (FiUMj)

Looks like Swamp Thing

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (OLCnA)

173 132 So there was a shooting at the Raptors parade.
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Isn't that unpossible? Doesn't Donut land have gun control?
Posted by: the 3 second second at June 18, 2019 11:28 AM (UgCsJ)

Still no word if it was from 3 point territory.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (Kpl3J)

174 I don't doubt that they "they pimp [polls] to manipulate public opinion."

It might even be the prime motivator.

But I do believe for a fair number of these useless eaters, whether they're doing the polls or reporting on them, it's simply to make work for themselves. Do a pointless poll (and they know it's pointless), report breathlessly about it for a few days until Allahpundit is done spanking it to the crosstabs, then rinse and repeat.

I call it "the ouroboros of bullshit."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (AzW6q)

175 My original top 2 were Walker and Perry.

Nice going there on my part. Hell, I think Pataki lasted longer then either of those two.

Yeah, Walker didn't make it to the first primary.

Talk about completely misjudging the mood of the electorate.

Posted by: Grump928(C) is rich in niacin and B vitamins at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (t82DG)

176 During the 2016 election I though Trump would just be another NE liberal running as a Republican. Boy was I wrong.
Posted by: Vic at June 18, 2019 11:29 AM (mpXpK)

I was likewise worried but really liked that he was an outsider whom the GOPe hated, so he had that going for him. Then he kept jabbing The Beast during the campaign. I usually avoid convention speeches but watched his and was impressed by everything he said so my enthusiasm was higher than for anyone since Reagan.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (y7DUB)

177 Biden is polling well because name recognition and he seems less insane than the rest, not because he has the slimmest shot at winning. The others at the top of present polling like Buttgag, Warren, Harris, et al... probably aren't gonna be around in May of next year. Sanders has proven he can win and honestly did win the primary in 2016, so he may be.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:32 AM (39g3+)

Yeah, but winning the Demonicrat primary is like being a transgender female and winning a women's sporting event.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (m79Dg)

178 Trump cut Cruz off at the knees. Ruthless. Frankly that's what we need. Its time for ruthless bastards.
Posted by: the 3 second second at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (zJ9zl)

Yeah, Cruz got rattled and didn't take the hit.

If he could have smiled and chuckled Regan-esque, he might have had a future. But he took the attacks personally and so now he's...taking Occasional Cortex's calls....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (bcbK8)

179 157 I still have hopes for Cruz. He might be able to learn, reflect and grow.

Several past Presidents didn't make it their first time grabbing for the big prize.

We need someone after Trump and I don't see a lot of depth in the 2024 field, though we're a ways off...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (bcbK

I'd be ok with DonJr.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (cF8AT)

180 CHY-NA

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (FiUMj)

A possible trade deal soon?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (a0IVu)

181 160 I wasn't. I was Cruz early then switched to Trump. But unlike some others that were here (and now aren't) I didn't take it personally that Trump beat out Cruz.

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Yeah. Actually I thought Cruz was kinda shooting himself in the foot after he got beat, so at this point I don't like him as much as I did.

I liked him, but realized that he'd never get elected to a national office. He's already got too high negatives. He's labeled. So, essentially nobody else was different except Trump. Longshot, but he won and it seems like he's doing really well considering.

Trump cut Cruz off at the knees. Ruthless. Frankly that's what we need. Its time for ruthless bastards.
Posted by: the 3 second second at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (zJ9zl)

IIRC, someone in the Cruz campaign said something not so nice about Melania's past as a scantily clad model and The Donald went Trumpzilla on Cruz after that.

Which was sad, because I thought the two men even seemed to have a Bromance going on at first. They were the ONLY two GOP candidates who seemed to get it about the Immigration problem.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (ujg0T)

182 Is Perry still Sec. of Energy? You never hear about him.

This actually makes me very happy. Guys like Ben Carson et al are gutting their agencies, cutting back on personnel, closing offices, reducing regulations, etc. They're doing the job that Sessions wouldn't do. And because Trump is such a magnet for hate and attention on the left, its almost all going unnoticed -- or flying under the radar of most people, despite cries of misery from a few on the left.

The entire organization needs to be dismantled and rebuilt from scratch. It's not salvageable.

They truly do seem to have utterly lost their way. Even the ones not actively hostile to the US as partisan apparatchiks seem to not really know what they are doing or why other than trying to "win."

Its not that this could not be turned around by a lot of firings and good, clear leadership, but the chances of that seem awfully dim.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (39g3+)

183 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

Obama's genius economic policy, duh.
========

Recovery Summer, baby!

*sniff* *sniff*

Posted by: Joey Bidet at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (vg8iE)

184 Cruz would be a great SOCTUS pick. Never gonna happen, but one can dream.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (FiUMj)

185 Yeah, that's my 'line'. Swallowswell stops short of
door to door confiscation but taken as a whole, it's a declaration of
war if he enacts it.

I don't think he stops short at all, I think he just chooses not to mention it. We all know he is more than willing to stormtrooper our guns right out of our hands. Hell, sometimes he sounds like he hopes it works out that way.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (LISuA)

186 168 They come for our guns, we come for them.
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Phrasing?

Anyone?
Posted by: archer at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (/WMwm)

They stopped doing 'phrasing' about 4 seasons ago.

Nobody knows why.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (bcbK8)

187 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
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*HIC*

Irrational exuberance!!!

Posted by: Hillary! at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (YmuHZ)

188 AOSHQ Fun Fact: There is a skull and crossbones in both the MMOT art and the Morning Rant.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (xoFwD)

189 Yeah, Walker didn't make it to the first primary.

Talk about completely misjudging the mood of the electorate.

Posted by: Grump928(C) is rich in niacin and B vitamins at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (t82DG)
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It really felt like it was Walker's to lose. And he did.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (DuZls)

190 167 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

@realDonaldTrump

Had a very good telephone conversation with President Xi of China. We will be having an extended meeting next week at the G-20 in Japan. Our respective teams will begin talks prior to our meeting.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (cF8AT)

191 Yeah I didn't mean to imply that Perry isn't doing a good job because he's not in the news. I was just wondering if he was still there. And Carson too, now that you bring him up. Was he the one that bought a new couch for the office and the MSM went apeshit over it?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (FiUMj)

192 Yeah, Cruz got rattled and didn't take the hit.

If he could have smiled and chuckled Regan-esque, he might have had a future. But he took the attacks personally and so now he's...taking Occasional Cortex's calls....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (bcbK

He got the Donald to show up at a campaign appearance for him. The Donald is a gentle taskmaster once he has broken you and you get onboard.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (m79Dg)

193 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
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Russia.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (DuZls)

194 I'd be ok with DonJr.
Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (cF8AT)

No. No more political dynasties.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (OJXf7)

195 A possible trade deal soon?
...

Looks that way based on Trump's tweet.

Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (MAstk)

196 183 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

Obama's genius economic policy, duh.
========

Recovery Summer, baby!

*sniff* *sniff*
Posted by: Joey Bidet at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (vg8iE)

heh...obama and biden..those 8 years are like a nightmare.

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (a0IVu)

197 This post is cruel, you're going to get poor Eric Swallowswell's hopes up.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (oZ6kz)

198 170 167 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

Trump teased with a tweet sounding like a China deal was in the works

Posted by: It's me donna at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (O2RFr)

199
Cruz would be a great SOCTUS pick. Never gonna happen, but one can dream.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (FiUMj)

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I think it's a great and totally doable idea - as long as the TX GOP has a strong young populist to replace him. That's the only fly in the ointment I can see. The Senate would pretty much have to confirm him.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (AzW6q)

200 During the 2016 election I though Trump would just be another NE liberal running as a Republican. Boy was I wrong.

Yeah I was certain he was. Just Bill Clinton with a goofier delivery and lies about a border wall to stir up crowds. Turns out I was wrong, but in a good way. I still fear he will turn that way in his second term, should he win, though. I just don't trust politicians.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (39g3+)

201 Great. I had to be doing tax crap and the like this morning and missed the Black Brunswicker painting that's a subject I'm well versed in. Even painted a toy-soldier wargaming force of them.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (Dh1wo)

202 We need someone after Trump and I don't see a lot of depth in the 2024 field, though we're a ways off...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:33 AM (bcbK

I'd be ok with DonJr.
Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (cF8AT)

nah, no more Trumps, no more Clintons, no more Bushes.

I don't want an aristocracy, except one of merit.

Or if we're going to become a monarchy, I suppose I'd change my answer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (bcbK8)

203 Good old Jeb Bush--$100 million spent and won three delegates.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (k81AA)

204 Polling at this time is like the NFL draft. On paper so and so looks great. And then they actually start playing real games and 1/2 of the top draft choices crash and burn in the first few games and some 7th round pick nobody's heard of (Tom Brady anyone) ends up being a star.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (FiUMj)

205 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

The president tweeted that he had a really good phone call with the president of China and he'll have an extended meeting with Xi at the G 20 so there is optimism about trade talks

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (OLCnA)

206 @realDonaldTrump

Had a very good telephone conversation with President Xi of China. We will be having an extended meeting next week at the G-20 in Japan. Our respective teams will begin talks prior to our meeting.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (cF8AT)

Excellent. I wonder how Xi is going to extricate China from this mess and still retain some 'face' with his people. Asians, especially men, are all about their ego.

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (a0IVu)

207 David Stockman is driving the DJIA rally today.

Posted by: John Dean at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (NHSOx)

208 I am thinking that all these polls are bullshit.

Posted by: JAS at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (I5SAg)

209 191 Yeah I didn't mean to imply that Perry isn't doing a good job because he's not in the news. I was just wondering if he was still there. And Carson too, now that you bring him up. Was he the one that bought a new couch for the office and the MSM went apeshit over it?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (FiUMj)

There was some meeting with Trump and cabinet officials last week that was on the news. Perry was there...seated next to Trump I believe.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (cF8AT)

210 Low Energy Heb was just following in his father's footsteps, circa 1992.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (DuZls)

211 In an interview with Joy Reid, Biden was asked how he would deal with Mitch McConnell and other Repubs if they tried to block his agenda as President. Bring 'em a bare knuckle fight. Start a physical revolution.

He's suggesting violence and I don't think he's really thought that one out.

Posted by: Cheri at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (oiNtH)

212 And Carson too, now that you bring him up. Was he the one that bought a new couch for the office and the MSM went apeshit over it?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (FiUMj)

They thought it was fabulous when he had the porcelain lined glory hole in the bathroom.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (m79Dg)

213 I'd be ok with DonJr.
Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (cF8AT)

No. No more political dynasties.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (OJXf7)

I'll take whoever represents Trump's 3rd term. If they share the same last name, so be it.

Or you could choose another cowering RINO bc they have a different last name.

Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (MAstk)

214 "Polling at this time is like the NFL draft. On paper so and so looks great. And then they actually start playing real games and 1/2 of the top draft choices crash and burn in the first few games and some 7th round pick nobody's heard of (Tom Brady anyone) ends up being a star.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (FiUMj)"

What I'm hearing is that if Andrew Yang wants a chance of winning, he needs to hire Bill Belichick to film the other candidates in their debate prep sessions.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (oZ6kz)

215 Yeah, Walker didn't make it to the first primary.

Talk about completely misjudging the mood of the electorate.

Posted by: Grump928(C) is rich in niacin and B vitamins at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (t82DG)
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It really felt like it was Walker's to lose. And he did.
Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (DuZls)

George Will's whore wife and the rest of his staff spent all their war chest before the first primary. Outstanding fiscal conservatives imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (y7DUB)

216 I still fear he will turn that way in his second term, should he win, though. I just don't trust politicians.

Posted by:�Christopher R Taylor�at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (39g3+)

He's more likely to declare himself Emperor than go leftist. Why on earth would you say this?

Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (9jPzf)

217 PDT is really good at giving good face.

Posted by: JAS at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (I5SAg)

218 No. No more political dynasties.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (OJXf7)

Youse guys are NO FUN!

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (cF8AT)

219 I was assured by a left-leaning ag professor I know that the Chinese are unwilling to "lose face" by ever backing down and there is no chance whatsoever that Trump can get them to reduce tarriffs so he should give up trying. Oh, and that breaking up the Department of Agriculture and spreading them out into places they are actually supposed to be working will hurt us all by reducing their ability to get anything done in Washington and its hurting the people who work there.

I just smiled and offered other possibilities. There's no need to fight about this stuff, either it will work or it won't. I am confident it will work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (39g3+)

220 206 @realDonaldTrump

Had a very good telephone conversation with President Xi of China. We will be having an extended meeting next week at the G-20 in Japan. Our respective teams will begin talks prior to our meeting.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (cF8AT)

Excellent. I wonder how Xi is going to extricate China from this mess and still retain some 'face' with his people. Asians, especially men, are all about their ego.
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (a0IVu)

Speaking of face eating monsters, I started watching 'Kingdom' on Netflix last night.

The first episode was REALLY well written. All the characters introduced, the stakes established, the relationships and complications begun. It was really impressed, the Koreans seem to have absorbed Western style storytelling even better than the Japanese or Hong Kong filmmakers ever did.

(Kurosawa excepted, that guy, he got it)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (bcbK8)

221 167 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

Stocktwits denizens were talking about Trump tweets regarding the China deal.

Posted by: Emmie at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (4HMW8)

222 I still fear he will turn that way in his second term, should he win, though. I just don't trust politicians.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (39g3+)
___________________

I never supported Trump but did vote for him. Couldn't be more pleased.
On a second term, I believe he will go scorched earth on the DC elite. You dont drag a man and his family and the Country through all of this and not pay a price.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (DB16e)

223 "164
Yeah, that's my 'line'. Swallowswell stops short of
door to door confiscation but taken as a whole, it's a declaration of
war if he enacts it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:34 AM (bcbK

"
..
The thing is, is it that time if it's only happening in a few states? CA and NY have been aggressive about going door to door based on registry info, and CA has a bill on the table now to set up SWAT teams county by county whose specific purpose is firearm raids for newly banned items, red flags, and people who have run afoul of a multitude of new prohibited person traps.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (67XdO)

224 and some 7th round pick nobody's heard of (Tom Brady anyone) ends up being a star.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (FiUMj)
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Sixth round.

Posted by: Sports Pedant at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (DuZls)

225 We put the polls in the holes.

Posted by: gp. Hate Spewer at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (mk9aG)

226 I was going to try to make a nonprofit with legal zoom. Any advice? I was in process of checking to see which state would be most beneficial to me.
I live in Colorado, but I have a lot of ties in Texas, and I grew up in Eastern Tennessee.
Read this fascinating history of East Tennessee. Then read about Melungeons.

The south has never been the homogeneous cesspit of racism the left claims it is.

Your message has been rejected because long strings of unbroken text are
very annoying. Use the space bar or tinyurl.com as appropriate.

Posted by: David Prince at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (JkygK)

227 Excellent. I wonder how Xi is going to extricate China from this mess and still retain some 'face' with his people. Asians, especially men, are all about their ego.
..

Trump will have to throw him a bone, so he could return to China and wave it around.

Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (MAstk)

228 I'd be ok with DonJr.
Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:36 AM (cF8AT)

No. No more political dynasties.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:38 AM (OJXf7)

But what if he promises to crush the left under his heel like a cigarette butt?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (OLCnA)

229 One of the most amazing things to me about the 2016 race is that even by 2014, long before the candidates started to shape up, everyone I knew, both conservative and liberal, was saying "no more clinton's, no more bush's." And repeating it over and over.

So here comes the Consultant Class - "Hey kids guess what? We're gonna give you Clinton Bush all over again, that's the only choice you get!" and everyone kept saying, under their breath, "no more Clintons, no more Bush's." In the GOP, Trump emerged and put that to his advantage. Bernie and his Bros tried to do the same, but the DNC was just an arm of Clinton, Inc., so he never had a chance.

And so election day came, and to every Consultant's complete "surprise", the answer was - No More Clinton's. No More Bush's!!!! in the most fundamental sense, the election really was never about anything more than that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)

230 It really felt like it was Walker's to lose. And he did.

The Shogun of a Hundred Days

Posted by: Grump928(C) is rich in niacin and B vitamins at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (t82DG)

231 Speaking of face eating monsters, I started watching 'Kingdom' on Netflix last night.

The first episode was REALLY well written. All the characters introduced, the stakes established, the relationships and complications begun. It was really impressed, the Koreans seem to have absorbed Western style storytelling even better than the Japanese or Hong Kong filmmakers ever did.

(Kurosawa excepted, that guy, he got it)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (bcbK

it's on my watchlist.

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (a0IVu)

232 217 PDT is really good at giving good face.
Posted by: JAS at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (I5SAg)

That explains Melaina's smile

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (bcbK8)

233 I'll take whoever represents Trump's 3rd term. If they share the same last name, so be it.

Or you could choose another cowering RINO bc they have a different last name.
Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (MAstk)

Bush Sr. Represented Reagan's third term. That didn't turn out very well.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (OJXf7)

234 He's more likely to declare himself Emperor than go leftist. Why on earth would you say this?

His past statements, associations, and positions on multiple topics. He was very close to the Clintons, he loves government health care (talked about it repeatedly in the campaign, even), he's for gun control, etc. Deep down the man is a New Yorker. I'm glad to see what he's doing now and I hope it continues but after over 5 decades on this earth I have learned not to put my trust in princes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (39g3+)

235 We put the polls in the holes.
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Call me.

Posted by: Mayor Buttplug at June 18, 2019 11:43 AM (vg8iE)

236 Or you could choose another cowering RINO bc they have a different last name.

Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (MAstk)

Word. DJT Jr. enjoys some obvious advantages, but Wilbur Ross and Mick Mulvaney would be very good choices. If you want so much as a walkon role, you have to explain why you were an instrumental part of the Trump success.

Back of the line, Nirendra. You don't count.

Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 11:43 AM (9jPzf)

237 nah, no more Trumps, no more Clintons, no more Bushes.

I don't want an aristocracy, except one of merit.

Or if we're going to become a monarchy, I suppose I'd change my answer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (bcbK

If any of the Trump children are a chip off the old block, I might vote for them, but only if they have the same character and willingness to fight.

As you said, merit only. A name by itself is nothing.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:43 AM (J+mig)

238 As for my part, I am also working on this bug. I had two short wiki links. Even after taking them out still got the error. I had to un double space. Once this thread is dead, I am coming back to monkey around with it.

Posted by: David Prince at June 18, 2019 11:43 AM (JkygK)

239 Who is driving the market today? According to Kurt, it's Kurt.

Posted by: Archer at June 18, 2019 11:44 AM (gmo/4)

240 Whoa Fat! thought that he was going to be able to negociate the end of sanctions with a face-to-face with PDT. I am fairly certain the Chinese learned the lesson that was there.

Posted by: JAS at June 18, 2019 11:44 AM (I5SAg)

241 Good old Jeb Bush--$100 million spent and won three delegates.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at June 18, 2019 11:39 AM (k81AA)

But, they were really great delegates!--Yeb.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:44 AM (m79Dg)

242 Bush Sr. Represented Reagan's third term. That didn't turn out very well.
...

You're comparing the Bushes to Trumps?

Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:44 AM (MAstk)

243 everyone I knew, both conservative and liberal, was saying "no more clinton's, no more bush's." And repeating it over and over.

Yeah that's what I heard, too. From everyone. And we held up our side of the bargain. The Democrat voters tried too, but they were vetoed by the DNC.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:44 AM (39g3+)

244 Posted by: David Prince at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (JkygK)

I'm not a business guy but off the top of my head, I'd pick Texas for proximity and tax reasons.

I intend to visit East Tennessee in the next couple of years. I have a lot of battlefields to visit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:44 AM (bcbK8)

245 It was really impressed, the Koreans seem to have absorbed Western style storytelling even better than the Japanese or Hong Kong filmmakers ever did.�

(Kurosawa excepted, that guy, he got it)

Posted by:�Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo�at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (bcbK

Watch Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Free on Youtube, except episode 6. You will love it, even if the fight scenes are mildly goofy.

Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 11:45 AM (9jPzf)

246 All I know is that we are screwed if any of the Dem clowns running for President win

Posted by: It's me donna at June 18, 2019 11:45 AM (O2RFr)

247 In 2024 let's scrap the 22nd amendment. The left will have the vapors.....but....they can nominate Obama if they so choose.

Trump vs Obama.....that would be an interesting one.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:45 AM (FiUMj)

248 Bobby Jindal. Hadn't heard that name in a while.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 18, 2019 11:46 AM (/Njku)

249 Word. DJT Jr. enjoys some obvious advantages, but Wilbur Ross and Mick Mulvaney would be very good choices.
Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 11:43 AM (9jPzf)

I think Archibald Scofield would be a good choice. He owes me money.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:46 AM (m79Dg)

250 246 All I know is that we are screwed if any of the Dem clowns running for President win
.....

No doubt about that.

They will end any wall building and fully open the borders. Beto even said he would remove existing barriers.

Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:46 AM (MAstk)

251 All I know is that we are screwed if any of the Dem clowns running for President win

Yep, its all over if they win. With a second Trump term and continuing the same he's done here with judicial picks, etc, we can MAYBE survive another Democrat for 4 years. Maybe. But not if he can't finish the job he started. Too many judicial picks and too many easy fixes in the executive department to reverse what Trump has done.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (39g3+)

252 167 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

It's probably because President Obama has had good results in his talks with the Italian President, the French President and the German Chancellor.

Posted by: Meredith Raimondo at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (LISuA)

253 The ruling class will push Romney in 2024.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (FiUMj)

254 246 All I know is that we are screwed if any of the Dem clowns running for President win
Posted by: It's me donna at June 18, 2019 11:45 AM (O2RFr)

Doesn't matter which head you vote for, it's all the same hydra.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (J+mig)

255 Testing...

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (adsVM)

256 The Democrat voters tried too, but they were vetoed by the DNC.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:44 AM (39g3+)

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Yup, and now they have a problem. Bernie Sanders is a twisted old gout-ridden fruitcake and he does not have a hope of winning this primary, now that there's a broad field to run against.

But a lot of his voters, who were brutally mistreated by the DNC when he did have a chance of winning, are never going to forgive them when he loses this time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (AzW6q)

257 223 "164
Yeah, that's my 'line'. Swallowswell stops short of
door to door confiscation but taken as a whole, it's a declaration of
war if he enacts it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:34 AM (bcbK"
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The thing is, is it that time if it's only happening in a few states? CA and NY have been aggressive about going door to door based on registry info, and CA has a bill on the table now to set up SWAT teams county by county whose specific purpose is firearm raids for newly banned items, red flags, and people who have run afoul of a multitude of new prohibited person traps.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (67XdO)

Think nationally and act locally.

If local tyrants are acting tyrannically, then you have to decide what you are prepared to do.

So far WA red flag laws haven't been used for a lot of confiscations, but I'm keeping my eyes and ears open.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (bcbK8)

258 234 He's more likely to declare himself Emperor than go leftist. Why on earth would you say this?

His past statements, associations, and positions on multiple topics. He was very close to the Clintons, he loves government health care (talked about it repeatedly in the campaign, even), he's for gun control, etc. Deep down the man is a New Yorker. I'm glad to see what he's doing now and I hope it continues but after over 5 decades on this earth I have learned not to put my trust in princes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (39g3+)

I am beginning to think that Donald Trump simply adapted to New York nonsense in order to do business there. Whether that is true or not, I DO think he understands that his loyal base got him where he is, and he must "Dance with the ones who brought him" to the Political Ball.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (ujg0T)

259 Regarding the posted Republican polls, at the time they were taken, probably accurate. I'm not sure that means all polling is therefore garbage because Trump eventually won.

I definitely think there's a hidden Trump voter effect, and it's probably something like 4-5%. It's when polls show Trump losing by double digits to almost every Democrat that I start to think he's in trouble.

Everyone here ignored the "blue wave" polls and they ended up being largely correct.

Posted by: Blago at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (UfkIY)

260 253 The ruling class will push Romney in 2024.
..

His campaign slogan will be It's not who we are!

Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (MAstk)

261 253 The ruling class will push Romney in 2024.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (FiUMj)

Will they be pushing his wheelchair? Mittens is getting old.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (J+mig)

262
I wonder how Xi is going to extricate China from this mess and still retain some 'face' with his people. Asians, especially men, are all about their ego.
Posted by: IC

Why is it that we always have to be concerned with them keeping "face" but they don't have to be concerned with ours?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (aKsyK)

263 I wonder how Xi is going to extricate China from this mess and still
retain some 'face' with his people. Asians, especially men, are all
about their ego.
He'll take it out on Justin. Execute the three Canadians being held on "espionage" charges unless Canada immediately releases the female Huawei exec being extradited to the U.S.; and stop buying Canadian agri products. Justin will take it up the ass; and beg the U.S. for help.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (Dh1wo)

264 Andrew Yang loves that 2016 poll.

Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 18, 2019 11:49 AM (xTFXi)

265 >>>All I know is that we are screwed if any of the Dem clowns running for President win

Which is why I don't think it'll happen. I just can't see even crazy people, like most Dems, willingly committing national suicide. Virtue signal, yes, but when they go into the voting booth I think there is some secret PDJT voting going on.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 18, 2019 11:49 AM (LISuA)

266 Everyone here ignored the "blue wave" polls and they ended up being largely correct.
..

Yup

Posted by: Governor Gillam and Senator Nelson at June 18, 2019 11:49 AM (MAstk)

267 I am beginning to think that Donald Trump simply adapted to New York nonsense in order to do business there. Whether that is true or not, I DO think he understands that his loyal base got him where he is, and he must "Dance with the ones who brought him" to the Political Ball.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (ujg0T)

In other words, whether or not he believes the positions he's taking now is immaterial.

He's doing a better job of representing his constituency than anyone else in our government.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (J+mig)

268
The market is soaring so CNBC is back to Trump's tariffs are killing everyone!!!! Do us a favor CNBC and just have Morgan Brennan on in low cut top

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (OLCnA)

269 Barron Trump has the eyes of an emperor. Crush your enemies and hear the lamentations of their women eyes.

Posted by: Archer at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (gmo/4)

270 It was really impressed, the Koreans seem to have absorbed Western style storytelling even better than the Japanese or Hong Kong filmmakers ever did.

Posted by:Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 18, 2019 11:41 AM (bcbK

Watch Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Free on Youtube, except episode 6. You will love it, even if the fight scenes are mildly goofy.
Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 11:45 AM (9jPzf)

Yeah, I've been impressed with some of the Korean outings. The language in the subtitles is sometimes silly, though. They use "gosh" a lot.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (m79Dg)

271 I never supported Trump but did vote for him. Couldn't be more pleased.

On a second term, I believe he will go scorched earth on the DC
elite. You dont drag a man and his family and the Country through all of
this and not pay a price.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (DB16e)

This, all this, totally this.

I was on the trump train pretty early. My opinion was that he was an egotistical blowhard, but the dude does...not...like...to..lose. His ego would prevent him from failing. I also wanted a frigging madman at the helm. We tried it every other way. I wanted somebody who tossed decorum out the window, looked at our enemies in the eye and said lol get fucked. I wanted a brawler.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (9Om/r)

272 Who is driving the market today?

Posted by: Archer at June 18, 2019 11:44 AM (gmo/4)
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You know who I am, God damn it!

Posted by: AC at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (DuZls)

273 "No more Clintons, No more Bushes"...

It's mildly amusing, because there was only one President Clinton and two President Bushes. Hardly the stuff of dynasties.

It's merely the prospect of the specter of their related hangers-on getting their suckered tentacles on the levers of power that makes the populace rightfully fearful of anything even remotely like a dynasty.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 11:51 AM (AURKQ)

274 255
Testing...

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (adsVM)

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your test requires pictures, or it isn't a real test.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 18, 2019 11:51 AM (LISuA)

275 265 >>>All I know is that we are screwed if any of the Dem clowns running for President win

Which is why I don't think it'll happen. I just can't see even crazy people, like most Dems, willingly committing national suicide. Virtue signal, yes, but when they go into the voting booth I think there is some secret PDJT voting going on.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 18, 2019 11:49 AM (LISuA)

I think Trump has a YUGE blue collar/union following. Maybe not openly but definitely in the voting booth.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:51 AM (cF8AT)

276 Trump has two great advantages:

1) The economy. Unless something happens, a booming economy massively helps the incumbent.

2) The Democratic base. The average progressive cannot conceive why anyone would vote for Trump, other than racism, Nazism and stupidity. They live in an echo chamber, so they get nothing but reinforcement for their views.

When Hillary talked about "deplorables" who are "irredeemable", she was merely verbalizing what progressive Democrats actually think.

A "woke" Democrat finds it physically painful to contemplate actually trying to appeal to Trump voters. Their preferred strategy is to "mobilize their base" (through voter fraud if necessary), so they can ignore icky Trump voters.

In Wisconsin terms, if you can get enough votes out of Milwaukee, you can ignore Rheinlander.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 18, 2019 11:51 AM (I2/tG)

277 They will end any wall building and fully open the borders. Beto even said he would remove existing barriers.
Posted by: HA at June 18, 2019 11:46 AM (MAstk)

Although I suspect that if any of the Demunists actually do win, the economy would get so bad that there would be a mass exodus of Mexicans and Central Americans going home.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 18, 2019 11:51 AM (ujg0T)

278 "Everyone here ignored the "blue wave" polls and they ended up being largely correct."

The polls were generally accurate for congress and senate races, but less so for statewide races. Overall thought, it was a pretty decent year for Dems.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:51 AM (FiUMj)

279 Everyone here ignored the "blue wave" polls and they ended up being largely correct.

Posted by: Blago at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (UfkIY)

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They picked up fewer seats than normal for an opposition party at midterms. There was no "wave" to speak of.

The polls ahead of 2018 were predicting a blowout in the House. Laughably, many of them were even putting the Senate in play, which was absurd, given the map.

It's all just propaganda.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AzW6q)

280 Election Day is 16 months away and we're already talking polls. I need to go camping by a lake that is 30 miles away from the nearest wi-fi.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at June 18, 2019 11:52 AM (RD7QR)

281 Why is it that we always have to be concerned with them keeping "face" but they don't have to be concerned with ours?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (aKsyK)

We don't lose face, but eventually we blow theirs off with nukes.

Posted by: Roy at June 18, 2019 11:52 AM (ABjxW)

282 Everyone here ignored the "blue wave" polls and they ended up being largely correct.

No, they weren't correct, but they weren't as wrong as we hoped. They were wrong, just not very wrong. There wasn't this huge tsumami of Democrat victories from coast to coast, but an overall success by Democrats in a moderate sense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:52 AM (39g3+)

283 You don't want anymore Clintons OR Bushes? How about Clintons *AND* Bushes.

I present to you the Chelsea / Jenna 2024 ticket!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:53 AM (FiUMj)

284

Growth in charitable giving in the United States slowed in 2018, possibly as a result of the 2017 tax reform bill, according to an annual report that tracks American giving patterns. But the decline wasn't as big as many predicted.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 18, 2019 11:53 AM (aKsyK)

285 I wanted a brawler.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (9Om/r)

Looks like we're both travelling on the same train, brother.

Say, which way was it to the booze car?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 11:53 AM (AURKQ)

286 We tried it every other way. I wanted somebody who tossed decorum out the window, looked at our enemies in the eye and said lol get fucked. I wanted a brawler.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (9Om/r)

It was the sole option that had the virtue of not having been tried. Nothing else was working, so why the hell not? Turned out to be a really good gamble.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:53 AM (J+mig)

287 They picked up fewer seats than normal for an opposition party at midterms. There was no "wave" to speak of.

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They picked up 40 seats. The average is 30-something. It was right in line with what everyone expected would happen.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:54 AM (FiUMj)

288 Democrats say they will take the Arizona, NC and Iowa Senate seats in 2020. They will keep Alabama.

They say the key is their candidates look like the House candidates who won in the midterms, including being military veterans.

By the way, how anyone who had a combat MOS could join the Democrat Subversives is beyond explanation.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 18, 2019 11:54 AM (VpIIl)

289 You misspelled Jeb!@$$#073

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 18, 2019 11:54 AM (JFO2v)

290 @realDonaldTrump

Had a very good telephone conversation with President Xi of China. We will be having an extended meeting next week at the G-20 in Japan. Our respective teams will begin talks prior to our meeting.
Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:37 AM (cF8AT)
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And isn't it interesting that Xi is taking the very unusual step of meeting Kim Jong Un in Pyongyang before seeing Trump at the G20. It seems likely that Xi will reign in Kim as a way to get a better deal from Trump.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 18, 2019 11:54 AM (hjaPQ)

291 15 So, who's in 11th place of the Dem primary right now?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 18, 2019 11:05 AM (OJXf7)

Hickengieg, Buttilooper, and Hillary's used dildo. It's a theme!

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at June 18, 2019 11:54 AM (RD7QR)

292 They picked up 40 seats. The average is 30-something. It was right in line with what everyone expected would happen.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:54 AM (FiUMj)
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But the average number of the majority party incumbants
walking away is *not* 40+. And it was this time.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (DuZls)

293 Excellent. I wonder how Xi is going to extricate China from this mess and still retain some 'face' with his people.
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:40 AM (a0IVu)

I'd be very worried if I were a protester in Hong Kong. Xi is going to kick the dog, and hard.

Posted by: pep at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (wW03z)

294 Election Day is 16 months away and we're already talking polls. "

And rewriting history. Feh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (6qErC)

295 Everyone here ignored the "blue wave" polls and they ended up being largely correct.

Posted by: Blago at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (UfkIY)

But WHY were there correct? I would submit that it was
1. GOPee people retiring
2. GOPee people getting culled

And the Demunists elected? They have gone SO far Commiecrat that I expect a "Patriot Wave" in 2020, and Trump going around the nation not so much to win a landslide as to stump for pro-Trump Republican candidates.

Of course, this assumes the GOPee has learned something. :-(

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (ujg0T)

296 117 So there was a shooting at the Raptors parade. That's kinda sad. Toronto used to be safe, clean city. Then Trudeau decided to allow 1/2 the world immigrate to Canada. And now 2 generations later....there ya go.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:24 AM (FiUMj)

I was reading a story about that this morning. The first reports I heard yesterday made it sound like a mass shooter. Turns out four wounded, none seriously, and three arrested. Sounds gang-related.

But a lot of people panicked and started running when they heard the shots. They are damn lucky nobody got trampled to death in a stampede. That could have gotten very ugly very quickly.

Posted by: rickl at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (xjiRE)

297 They picked up fewer seats than normal for an opposition party at midterms. There was no "wave" to speak of.

not only that, but Paul Ryan's little buddies who all suddenly "retired" their seats at the 11th hour PURELY to allow Dems to grab them?

that had quite the effect. if those RINO assholes hadn't done that, no little "blue wave."

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (Rarvo)

298 Buttplug never met a pole he didn't like.

Posted by: JAS at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (I5SAg)

299 There was a Bush or Clinton running in every Presidential race from 1976 to 2008.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (ZfRYq)

300
If Joe Biden is the answer the question must be incredibly stupid.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (dPMBY)

301 As you said, merit only. A name by itself is nothing.

That's difficult to find in a candidate. They seem to run only on image, not on substance or issues. That's where PDT beat them, IMO. He actually spoke to the voters about problems that the rest of DC just ignores, like illegal immigration.

We need to have a party that solves problems, not ignore them or just talk about them. That's been the status quo for decades and is what has us in our current messes domestically. That's a winning ticket. Now, who will start listening to us deplorables and acting on what needs to be done to fix the problems that creeping progressivism/socialism have caused?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (HaL55)

302 Mad-liberals is doing a bunch of short memes while people 'wait for the Trump rally'. Some are pretty funny.

https://tinyurl.com/yx9klbjp

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 11:56 AM (cF8AT)

303 I'm glad to see what he's doing now and I hope it continues but after over 5 decades on this earth I have learned not to put my trust in princes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 11:42 AM (39g3+)

Trump has a very old fashioned personality trait that few modern people appear to understand, which is really quite surprising because it's not complicated.

Trump believes strongly in rewarding the people who support him, and punishing those who hate him and work against him. There's nothing in Trump's history to suggest that he would care much for Evangelical views with regard to political issues - BUT Evangelical voters have supported him strongly and consistently, and he has rewarded their loyalty in full, because at his core, he is a very transactional guy. Likewise, the people on the other side of these issues have treated Trump with hatred and intense opposition, and Trump is "Rewarding" them for their actions as well.

We on the right are extremely lucky that the Left is so blindly fanatical in their hatred. The chance was their for them to cut a deal with him - instead, they did everything they could to drive him into alliance with us. Well, of course that could all end the day the Left ever gets smart and starts acting rationally - HA!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 11:56 AM (Kpl3J)

304 If Joe Biden is the answer the question must be incredibly stupid."

Paste.

It's what's for dinner.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 11:56 AM (6qErC)

305 Jeez. I had forgotten that Pierre Trudeau ever even existed...

What a hosemobile.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 11:56 AM (AURKQ)

306 Methinks the RNC better get off their ass. They have a lot of work to do for 2020. Democrats already have their machine working. Where the hell is this McDaniels chick?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 18, 2019 11:57 AM (VpIIl)

307 I still don't understand how this push-polling helps the leftard cause. Since they so wildly skew results (that Faux news poll was registered voters, not likely) it seems like it's just as likely to discourage the casual lefty from voting.
To generalize here: Trump's base is full of people who understand the importance of voting regardless of poll stupidity.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 18, 2019 11:57 AM (bWBdM)

308 Trump's voters should have come out in 2018 to reinforce their votes from the previous cycle. Yeah, we always want more, but more should have been given. I get the history of mid terms after one party wins the presidency. But still, nobody is going to tell me the new Trump voters came out in force. And the consequences of that vote still matter today. We have to do better this time, period. I say Trump should be on perma campaign. If the left takes over, it will not be good.

Posted by: Quint at June 18, 2019 11:59 AM (n13/j)

309 We need to have a party that solves problems, not ignore them or just talk about them. That's been the status quo for decades and is what has us in our current messes domestically. That's a winning ticket. Now, who will start listening to us deplorables and acting on what needs to be done to fix the problems that creeping progressivism/socialism have caused?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (HaL55)

The DC Establishment doesn't like solving problems. It likes offering snake oil solutions that leave the problem intact while enriching their donors and cronies through Federal contracting and the crestion of new programs.

Also, if you actually solve the problem, you can't run on it again next time.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 18, 2019 11:59 AM (J+mig)

310 Tom, good insight. I think it's a trait that Trump has mentioned a time or two in his books, that of encouraging and rewarding loyalty. He will make a point of reciprocating that loyalty whenever and wherever possible, which is a character trait that is very refreshing given what the political class (especially the GOPe) has given us over the years.

As an aside, it seems clear to me that the NeverTrumpers never bothered to read his books and do some sober reflection on why he's doing so well. If they had they may have come up with realistic alternatives. As it is, they relied on the exact opposite of what Trump does...instead of persuading, they bully.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 18, 2019 11:59 AM (PFy0L)

311 Brunswicker?

Schwarnstucker?

Frau Blucher!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 18, 2019 11:59 AM (CSYCT)

312 I wanted a brawler.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 18, 2019 11:50 AM (9Om/r)

Looks like we're both travelling on the same train, brother.

Say, which way was it to the booze car?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 11:53 AM (AURKQ)

Follow the sound of breaking glass and the half dressed chicks. Always worked for me. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 18, 2019 11:59 AM (9Om/r)

313 It was right in line with what everyone expected would happen.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 11:54 AM (FiUMj)

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Yeah probably, if you look at averages. I was thinking of it in terms of Obama's first midterm where got smoked for 60+ seats or something.

But that's is not by any means what "everyone was expecting." I was informed by thousands of media flapping heads that we would see an earth-shaker of a wave election, until they started managing expectations a few weeks ahead of time, as always.

The wave never came. It was just a wet fart.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 11:59 AM (AzW6q)

314 It was the sole option that had the virtue of not having been tried. Nothing else was working, so why the hell not?

And although there were a lot of other factors (such as Hillary being such a horrible, ghastly choice), I think that was the #1 most compelling reason people voted for Trump. It was "well what the hell, we tried everything else"

And since its worked out for most people and the majority really do like how things are going... its going to be a really tough fight for any Democrat to beat that, even with the voter fraud.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 12:00 PM (39g3+)

315 @284
Individuals, estates, foundations and corporations gave a total of nearly $428 billion in 2018, according to the latest Giving USA report, released Tuesday.

Thats 1% when measured in current dollars from the updated estimate of nearly $425 billion in 2017.

Americans gave away the economy of Norway!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 18, 2019 12:00 PM (JFO2v)

316 The wave never came. It was just a wet fart.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 11:59 AM (AzW6q)

"The Purple Puddle"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 12:00 PM (AURKQ)

317 I'd be very worried if I were a protester in Hong Kong. Xi is going to kick the dog, and hard.

Posted by: pep at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (wW03z)

Taiwan had about 10k show for a 'stand with Hong Kong' rally.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 12:01 PM (cF8AT)

318 Given the senate map of 2018, Dems losing only 2 seats was a mini-victory on its own. Remember how in early 2017 were were saying how a filibuster proof senate was doable?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:01 PM (FiUMj)

319 That's difficult to find in a candidate. They seem to run only on image, not on substance or issues. That's where PDT beat them, IMO. He actually spoke to the voters about problems that the rest of DC just ignores, like illegal immigration.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 18, 2019 11:55 AM (HaL5

That is because that's how the media shapes the message. They want well dressed, docile, tripe speaking non-entities, preferably from some minority group, that they can write the script for. And the candidates just go along because the payoff is incredible. Even if you lose, once you have a media branded name, you can be inserted in again anytime in the future. As long as you are not a racist, homophobic, toxic male. Even then, you'll get face time as a boogie man.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 12:01 PM (m79Dg)

320 274 255
Testing...

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 18, 2019 11:47 AM (adsVM)

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your test requires pictures, or it isn't a real test.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 18, 2019
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I don't think that pesky 500 internal server error would allow that, considering how it treated my totally innocuous attempted posts earlier.

Perhaps that was the problem: I needed to add something more Horde-like to get past it. >.

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 18, 2019 12:02 PM (adsVM)

321 Omar is a diplomatic genius! Iran blows a hole in an oil tanker, we are supposed to run back to the table and demand to be let back in to the deal.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (dNzKv)

322 But that's is not by any means what "everyone was expecting." I was informed by thousands of media flapping heads that we would see an earth-shaker of a wave election, until they started managing expectations a few weeks ahead of time, as always.

The wave never came. It was just a wet fart.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 11:59 AM (AzW6q)

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Yeah the MSM exaggerated of course. And nobody can really define what a blue wave means anyway. But whatever you want to call it, Dems did very well in 2018. Could they have done better? Sure. Every election you can always do better.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (FiUMj)

323 Paste. The other white meat.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (Dh1wo)

324 LOL! US trade reps didn't know about the trade talks until they saw Trump's tweet.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (cF8AT)

325 F the pollsters - Go Trump MAGA!

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (ehf0+)

326 What a hosemobile."

Hmmm.

Thought that was Margaret.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (6qErC)

327 "No more Clintons, No more Bushes"...

It's mildly amusing, because there was only one President Clinton and two President Bushes. Hardly the stuff of dynasties.

It's merely the prospect of the specter of their related hangers-on getting their suckered tentacles on the levers of power that makes the populace rightfully fearful of anything even remotely like a dynasty.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Don't forget the Kennedys. Camelot was the real dynasty. If Bobby hadn't gotten popped and Swimmer hadn't drowned Mary Jo, they'd have ran and we would have had 16 more years of Kennedys. .

Posted by: rickb223 at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (sRczR)

328 Trump's voters should have come out in 2018 to reinforce their votes from the previous cycle.
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I think 2018 was a structural issue as much as a desire/turnout issue. Dems have been in control of state governments for so long, we are at a huge disadvantage w/regards to house districts. Until we can get sanity in redistricting, I believe the problem will persist. Soros' little pet project, getting SoS elected in every state doesn't help any either.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (bWBdM)

329 They picked up fewer seats than normal for an opposition party at midterms. There was no "wave" to speak of.

The polls ahead of 2018 were predicting a blowout in the House. Laughably, many of them were even putting the Senate in play, which was absurd, given the map.

It's all just propaganda.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AzW6q)

Plus Paul Ryan's do nothing Congress delivered a half assed tax cut and nothing else other than squawking "not who we are" like a retarded parrot.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (y7DUB)

330 I needed to add something more Horde-like to get past it. >.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 18, 2019 12:02 PM (adsVM)

I think the hamsters can recognize us all by smell....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (AURKQ)

331 I still don't understand how this push-polling helps
the leftard cause. Since they so wildly skew results (that Faux news
poll was registered voters, not likely) it seems like it's just as likely to discourage the casual lefty from voting.

To generalize here: Trump's base is full of people who understand the importance of voting regardless of poll stupidity.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 18, 2019 11:57 AM (bWBdM)

That is fair. But these people tossed away their credibility for a price. They have driven his numbers down to some extent. There are people convinced the hair on fire politics will end if Trump leaves office. Those people are wrong, it will only get worse. And i agree there is a shy Trump vote. There are many people who won't toss the whole American experiment aside even for a faux peace with the left.

Posted by: Quint at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (n13/j)

332 Trump was at 1% and emerged victorious. VICTORIOUS. Who's at 1% now, huh?

Posted by: Cory Booker, Confirmed Heterosexual at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (hjaPQ)

333 -
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OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

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Explanations of market moves are always a posteriori guesses that mostly reveal the biases of the guesser. If these people knew what they where talking about, they WOULDN'T talk about it. They would pre-emptively invest appropriately and profit instead.

Posted by: irright at June 18, 2019 12:04 PM (RVcmP)

334 were

Posted by: irright at June 18, 2019 12:04 PM (RVcmP)

335 Just got a e-mail from Duke power that said I had an uncashed check for over $9,000 from the first quarter. Wifey handles the bank deposits and she is in the damn hospital down in Charleston.

Posted by: Vic at June 18, 2019 12:04 PM (mpXpK)

336 334 were
Posted by: irright "

Wolf?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:05 PM (6qErC)

337 Yeah, you could watch Trump clue in to the left as they spun around like rabid bonobo monkeys throwing feces and shrieking.

As my son was saying last night, he went to college to the right but with the idea that people were generally reasonable and thoughtful. After actually observing the loons, including the professors, he came out harder right than before because he realized they were just spittle spewing loons and hated him. Then when he observed that the govt stole a lot of his paycheck (taxation is theft as I reminded him) he's really dug in.

I think Trump has gone through a bit of the same process. They'd kill him if they could and he knows that now. They're insane and evil.

Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:05 PM (nRWPy)

338 Googled 'Trump Florida rally' to see what the effing media are saying....*GOP heading towards apocalypse*, *Trump trailing in polls*...

My take away - the media is shitting their pants looking at the size of the rally and enthusiasm

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 12:05 PM (a0IVu)

339 LOL! US trade reps didn't know about the trade talks until they saw Trump's tweet.

How can we sabotage Trump if he doesn't tell us what he is doing?

Posted by: The State Department at June 18, 2019 12:05 PM (I2/tG)

340 318 Given the senate map of 2018, Dems losing only 2 seats was a mini-victory on its own. Remember how in early 2017 were were saying how a filibuster proof senate was doable?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:01 PM (FiUMj)

The fact that Sinema won in Arizona still makes me sick.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 12:05 PM (Kpl3J)

341 Obama rewarded his supporters and punished his enemies.

He even came right out and said so.

Posted by: davfidt at June 18, 2019 12:05 PM (geIq4)

342 Don't forget the Kennedys. Camelot was the real dynasty. If Bobby hadn't gotten popped and Swimmer hadn't drowned Mary Jo, they'd have ran and we would have had 16 more years of Kennedys. .

Yeah, but in actual impact we had three years of one halfway competent Kennedy and a lot of cultural hand-wringing over what came after.

There was still some effort of slipping Teddy under the Oval Office door, which would have been embarrassing.

Posted by: JEM at June 18, 2019 12:05 PM (8erNz)

343 I was on the trump train pretty early. My opinion was that he was an
egotistical blowhard, but the dude does...not...like...to..lose. His ego
would prevent him from failing. I also wanted a frigging madman at the
helm. We tried it every other way. I wanted somebody who tossed decorum
out the window, looked at our enemies in the eye and said lol get
fucked. I wanted a brawler.

I totes grok you.

I was a Cruz dude right up until he accused PDT of fomenting violence at the rallies, which was right after Mr. Jan Shackowski (aka the Commie Robert Creamer) admitted that he was the one doing that.

Then I started to notice the people and organizations who were extremely critical of PDT and noticed that they also hated me. I figured, what is there to lose by backing Trump, which I did right before the primary down here. I was a skeptic, but knew what Her Heinous had in store for us, so I'd've voted for Johnny Coldcuts over her in a heartbeat.

PDT has been a pleasant surprise. I never thought he'd be as conservative as he's turned out to be. Now, if the GOPe would just get their head out of their asses and get on board with him, we could become the America of promise once more.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (HaL55)

344 Explanations of market moves are always a posteriori guesses that mostly reveal the biases of the guesser

Yeah the stock market makes no rational sense and any attempt to make sense of it just leaves you puzzled or looking foolish later. Whatever barometer it once may have been, it is utterly without value now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (39g3+)

345 Trump's voters should have come out in 2018 to reinforce their votes from the previous cycle.
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Iirc R's did well in special elections. Especially the ones that embraced Trump.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (DB16e)

346 not only that, but Paul Ryan's little buddies who all suddenly "retired"
their seats at the 11th hour PURELY to allow Dems to grab them?
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Just another day in the surrender caucus. Ryan spent his 20+ years as an apparatchik in the uniparty. Budget guru, ways and means guru, etc. and all thas time he gets rolled by Patty Murray in the Senate every year. Regular budget order my fat ass.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (MIKMs)

347 265
>>>All I know is that we are screwed if any of the Dem clowns running for President win

Which
is why I don't think it'll happen. I just can't see even crazy people,
like most Dems, willingly committing national suicide. Virtue signal,
yes, but when they go into the voting booth I think there is some secret
PDJT voting going on.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 18, 2019 11:49 AM (LISuA)
While I share your optimism for 2020, at some point a Dem clown WILL get elected.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (N39Ws)

348 It's mildly amusing, because there was only one President Clinton and two President Bushes. Hardly the stuff of dynasties.

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Between 1980 and 2016 there was a Clinton or Bush in every single administration, either as prezzy, VP, or a senior admin position.

It's Dynasty-ish.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (FiUMj)

349 Is this something? Yeah, this is something.

Per Drudge, Trump plans to live-tweet the Dem debates.

I. Don't. Have. The. Words.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (Z4rgH)

350 Another couple of thoughts....

Years ago I read The Selling Of The President, a look at how the 1968 election candidates were framed and how to package them almost like a product. And by Almost I mean Exactly like.

I'm thinking that what we see now in the political class is largely informed by that viewpoint. No in depth answers, just 10 second soundbites featuring focus-tested phrases and words. Physical image of a certain "type," so young and vibrant as opposed to mature and wise. And so on. Having Trump turned a LOT of that on its ear. He's not a classic candidate, and I don't mind saying in those early days I didn't much care for him. But I was wrong. He is what we needed and came along when we needed him. I disagree with him on a few things (don't outlaw suppressors!) but on balance he is someone I will vote for...on his own merits.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (PFy0L)

351 Plus Paul Ryan's do nothing Congress...
And a bunch of NeverTrump GOPe not running as incumbents undoubtedly hoping that their replacement GOP candidate would lose.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (Dh1wo)

352 The fact that Sinema won in Arizona "

Hey, we helped!

/GoPe

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (6qErC)

353 Plus Paul Ryan's do nothing Congress delivered a
half assed tax cut and nothing else other than squawking "not who we
are" like a retarded parrot.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (y7DUB)

Your chirping offends us!

Posted by: Polly Wanna, Steward, Retarded Parrots Local 23 at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (ufFY8)

354 Between 1980 and 2016 there was a Clinton or Bush in every single administration, either as prezzy, VP, or a senior admin position.

It's Dynasty-ish.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (FiUMj)

Fair point. Don't know how much the average LIV noticed directly, but perhaps just hearing the names over and over is enough to breed contempt.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (AURKQ)

355 Jeb's Super PAC was called: "Right to Rise". We all have the right to rise, but Jeb lacked the ability.

Posted by: 40 miles north at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (o2vOl)

356 You can't make peace with the left. That's an oxymoron. They exist only to amass more power. Peace with them means you're a slave or dead.

Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (nRWPy)

357 "48 If this has already been answered, I apologize...

They scream when the question of citizenship ship might be asked on the census. They screamed when it was suggested showing ID when voting was racist, burdensome, etc. Motor voter, absentee ballots, ballot harvesting, etc.

So why aren't the usual suspects screeching about the Real ID and my special gold star on my driver's license, which 'allows' me to fly, and which required my BIRTH CERTIFICATE to obtain, hmmm?

Okay, hit me. What am I missing?

Posted by: Heirloominati at June 18, 2019 11:12 AM (P9Idj) "

As a way of identifying us when it comes time for the New Improved "Citizens" to wipe us out ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 18, 2019 12:08 PM (a5hgv)

358 338 Googled 'Trump Florida rally' to see what the effing media are saying....*GOP heading towards apocalypse*, *Trump trailing in polls*...

My take away - the media is shitting their pants looking at the size of the rally and enthusiasm

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 12:05 PM (a0IVu)

Interesting tidbit....FBN interview 3 woman waiting at the Trump rally this morning. All former dems, 2 with #walkaway t-shirts on.

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 12:08 PM (cF8AT)

359 349 Is this something? Yeah, this is something.

Per Drudge, Trump plans to live-tweet the Dem debates.

I. Don't. Have. The. Words.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (Z4rgH)

It would be so damn funny.

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 12:08 PM (a0IVu)

360 Honestly, I don't think the younger liberals even look at the polls. They have an extremely biased view of Republicans that isn't based in reality. They are very myopic in terms of their issue focus, and yes, many of them vote on issues like climate change which is almost completely disconnected from what our government does.

Because of their myope, and their inability to understand the importance of issues related to liberty and a general history of our republic, never mind world issues, they wield their voting power very recklessly and inconsistent with most intellectually derived wisdom. They don't track to any particular poll, because of the decisions they make are based on pathos, and not much more. You can't really predict how they will land on any issue because of their fatuity, and complete unfamiliarity with cause and effect. It's really about time that people figured out they are not going to react to the usual warnings Republicans are endeared to like liberty, constitution, law, order and love of country.

It's going to be the real wild card in our next election and the difference between liberty and the Democrats complete tyranny, which is real, whether they believe it or not.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 18, 2019 12:08 PM (VpIIl)

361 More Bush is always something I can get behind.

Posted by: Bubba J. at June 18, 2019 12:09 PM (JkygK)

362 335 Just got a e-mail from Duke power that said I had an uncashed check for over $9,000 from the first quarter. Wifey handles the bank deposits and she is in the damn hospital down in Charleston.

Posted by: Vic at June 18, 2019 12:04 PM (mpXpK)

Well the nerve or her!

Direct deposit is your friend....

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 12:09 PM (cF8AT)

363 He'll take it out on Justin. Execute the three Canadians being held on "espionage" charges unless Canada immediately releases the female Huawei exec being extradited to the U.S.; and stop buying Canadian agri products. Justin will take it up the ass; and beg the U.S. for help.�

Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2019 11:48 AM (Dh1wo)

That's a fantastic way to shove most Canadians outside Vancouver hard into the "Git 'em, Trump" camp. China's economic problems make them vulnerable. If they push too hard, they can see Canadian expropriation of Chinese millionaire properties. The Chinese might have fantasies about war with Canada, but ask the FLQ how well that worked out for them.

Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 12:09 PM (9jPzf)

364 The fact that Sinema won in Arizona still makes me sick.

A lot of those 'victories' weren't but the GOP did its usual job of just taking the L and not fighting fraud. Its like they do not really even give a damn about the voters. And yes, I include our president in this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 12:09 PM (39g3+)

365 352 The fact that Sinema won in Arizona "

Hey, we helped!

/GoPe
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (6qErC)

Whatever happened to her? Wonder if she is still dressing like a hooker ?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 12:09 PM (a0IVu)

366 Fair point. Don't know how much the average LIV noticed directly, but perhaps just hearing the names over and over is enough to breed contempt.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (AURKQ)

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That's a large part of it. We're talking almost 2 generations where every day the name Bush or Clinton was in the news in some way. People get tired of that shit.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:09 PM (FiUMj)

367 Interesting tidbit....FBN interview 3 woman waiting at the Trump rally this morning. All former dems, 2 with #walkaway t-shirts on.

That's another good insight - Trump has the Conservative base, yes. Could it be that his appeal is broader, especially with the Democrats going full Left? The Liberal Everyman isn't left with much in that party, but on the other side they see...Trump, who speaks to them. He doesn't appear to be writing anyone off.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (PFy0L)

368 >> The fact that Sinema won in Arizona still makes me sick.

Many of the Arizonans were clearly staring at that rack.

Posted by: 40 miles north at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (o2vOl)

369 so young and vibrant as opposed to mature and wise.

I hope they keep pushing buttigeg. Not one single black male who isn't gay would vote for him.

Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (nRWPy)

370 #351 Ah, #346 beat me to the punch.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (Dh1wo)

371 Per Drudge, Trump plans to live-tweet the Dem debates.

I. Don't. Have. The. Words.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (Z4rgH)
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HATCH ACT!!

Posted by: Anti-speech Goon Squad at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (DuZls)

372 Sorry. Someone being quoted in #346 beat me to the punch.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (Dh1wo)

373 As a way of identifying us when it comes time for the New Improved "Citizens" to wipe us out ?

Works both ways. States that give drivers licenses to illegals have to give them special licenses, since they can't comply with real ID.

Nice of the blue states to compile of list of the names and addresses of illegal immigrants in their state.

Posted by: The State Department at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (I2/tG)

374 I think the hamsters can recognize us all by smell....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (AURKQ
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So, take a swig of Valu-Rite before hitting Post?

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (adsVM)

375 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
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Maybe a tech company came in w/actual earnings?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (bWBdM)

376

Please clap!

Posted by: Jeb! at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (r1/AF)

377 362 Well the nerve or her!

Direct deposit is your friend....

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 12:09 PM (cF8AT)

Wifey doesn't want to do that. I only get 4 checks a year from them.

Posted by: Vic at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (mpXpK)

378
not only that, but Paul Ryan's little buddies who all suddenly "retired" their seats at the 11th hour PURELY to allow Dems to grab them?�

that had quite the effect. if those RINO assholes hadn't done that, no little "blue wave."
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That, I think was the biggest thing--hand-picked RINO* no name vs. Fresh, New Face Dem no name.

And the suburban women, who fell for Orange Man Bad, what have the Dems delivered?
Trannies, queers, illegals, gun control and taxes.

*How many of those that lost were pro-Trump? Specifically, there's the incumbent RINO in VA that lost and she was all in on "I'm not a Trump fan"

ALL of the challenges this time will be pro-Trump

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (k81AA)

379 Yes You Can! Get an Alfred E. Neuman "Che" T.

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (RuIsu)

380 While I share your optimism for 2020, at some point a Dem clown WILL get elected.�

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (N39Ws)

I'm not sure that's true anymore. If the President presses against the coup plotters, he might have the legitimacy to proscribe the Democrats entirely.

If he doesn't put them in jail, the country will break apart anyways. Americans won't tolerate out two tier legal system much longer.

Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (9jPzf)

381 Remember when Hillary said civility would return if the dems took the house? She was, get this, lying!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (gC2IV)

382 335
Just got a e-mail from Duke power that said I had an uncashed check for
over $9,000 from the first quarter. Wifey handles the bank deposits and
she is in the damn hospital down in Charleston.

Posted by: Vic at June 18, 2019 12:04 PM (mpXpK)
Vic, I hope Mrs. Vic is going to be OK. Prayers for both of you.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (N39Ws)

383 is enough to breed "

Hey, I'm in!

/Billy "AstroTurf in the truck bed" Clintoon!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (6qErC)

384 349 Is this something? Yeah, this is something.

Per Drudge, Trump plans to live-tweet the Dem debates.

I. Don't. Have. The. Words.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (Z4rgH)

Swallowell. Gay name. Gay person. Low T. Sad!

Posted by: The Donald at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (RD7QR)

385 Could it be that his appeal is broader, especially with the Democrats going full Left? The Liberal Everyman isn't left with much in that party, but on the other side they see...Trump, who speaks to them. He doesn't appear to be writing anyone off.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (PFy0L)
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The benefit of going "full Left", is that anything is permissible for The Cause.

Posted by: The American Left at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (DuZls)

386 Have you noticed how quiet Sinema has been compared to AOC? Worries me.

Posted by: Bubba J. at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (JkygK)

387 Could they have done better? Sure. Every election you can always do better.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:03 PM (FiUMj)

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They should have done much better. The President's party held both of houses of Congress, which on its own should mean a motivated opposition base with high turnout. On top of that, his party drastically underperformed in every way (unlike Obama's), and enraged many of its own voters. Pile on top of that the credible threat of the President being impeached soon, so long as the dems could just make some GAINZZZ in the Senate (not even a majority, just a win), and they SHOULD have had a wave. Everything was in their favor.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (AzW6q)

388 Ive seen plenty of horse shit but this poll beats all. Obviously worthless.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (V+bdf)

389 Per Drudge, Trump plans to live-tweet the Dem debates.

I. Don't. Have. The. Words.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (Z4rgH)

My God. Trump *is* a Moron.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet presents All Is Lost - A Musical Fable of the Moron Horde! Tickets o at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (hLRSq)

390 Live by the sock,...

Posted by: David Prince at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (JkygK)

391 You can't make peace with the left. That's an oxymoron. They exist only to amass more power. Peace with them means you're a slave or dead.
Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (nRWPy)

It would be nice if we could get our "leaders" to understand this.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (H8QX8)

392 348 It's mildly amusing, because there was only one President Clinton and two President Bushes. Hardly the stuff of dynasties.
____
Between 1980 and 2016 there was a Clinton or Bush in every single administration, either as prezzy, VP, or a senior admin position.

It's Dynasty-ish.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:06 PM (FiUMj)

Perhaps posters who are younger don't realize what it was like to live through it.
1980 -1988: Bush as VP, more influence than normal because of CIA ties, and head of GOP-e, which never really liked Reagan although they had to pretend they did.
1988-1992: Bush takes over, "no new taxes!!!" Oops.
1992 - 2000: the Clinton Circus, thanks to Ross Perot both times.
2000 - 2008: Bush again.
2008 - 2016: Almost Clinton for Prez, instead we ended up with Hillary taking over the State Dep't and installing all of her own people in it.

So we'd actually had 36 STRAIGHT YEARS of ALWAYS having a Bush or a Clinton somewhere at the top of the D. C. Power Structure. That's why the consultants wanted to keep them there - that's why every ordinary voter in both parties was saying "No more Clinton's, No More Bush's!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 12:13 PM (Kpl3J)

393

Why are we talking Chris Christie's big boobs?

Posted by: Jeb! at June 18, 2019 12:13 PM (r1/AF)

394
Off! act of love sock!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 18, 2019 12:13 PM (r1/AF)

395 Interesting tidbit....FBN interview 3 woman waiting at the Trump rally this morning. All former dems, 2 with #walkaway t-shirts on.
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O, mee soooo hounee! That's hot.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 18, 2019 12:13 PM (bWBdM)

396 The Liberal Everyman isn't left with much in that party, but on the other side they see...Trump, who speaks to them. He doesn't appear to be writing anyone off.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 18, 2019 12:10 PM (PFy0L)

Donald Trump only wants to use half of the road. The Middle Half.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet presents All Is Lost - A Musical Fable of the Moron Horde! Tickets o at June 18, 2019 12:14 PM (hLRSq)

397 Vic, I hope Mrs. Vic is going to be OK. Prayers for both of you.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (N39Ws)

They are holding her for observation.

Posted by: Vic at June 18, 2019 12:14 PM (mpXpK)

398 '18 would have been a Red wave if the GOPe had a spine.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at June 18, 2019 12:14 PM (DB16e)

399 Polls? Ouija boards are more accurate.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at June 18, 2019 12:14 PM (NjJUT)

400 Stop the presses...Fox has a new poll that shows all the top Dems beating Trump.

hahahaha..how stupid do they think we are?? seriously.

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 12:14 PM (a0IVu)

401 re: oil tankers.

Who's oil was loaded aboard the tankers that were hit? Bet it wasn't Iranian which means of course Iranian minions did it to show the other Gulf countries their strength and induce the spot oil price to climb again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 18, 2019 12:14 PM (CSYCT)

402 While I share your optimism for 2020, at some point a Dem clown WILL get elected.

Sure, and that's the problem. As much as Trump gets done unless congress gets on board with actual laws with actual teeth most of what he's accomplished will be reversed in the first six months of the next Dem administration. The only long term thing he's managed to get done because of congressional stonewalling and foot-dragging is judicial appointments.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 12:14 PM (39g3+)

403 -
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Per Drudge, Trump plans to live-tweet the Dem debates.

I. Don't. Have. The. Words.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM

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Does DJT want everyone on earth on twitter? 'cause DAMN... I want to see that.

Posted by: irright at June 18, 2019 12:15 PM (RVcmP)

404 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?
Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

Insomniac and da Nurse !

Posted by: JT at June 18, 2019 12:15 PM (Y9Ocz)

405 I just can't see even crazy people,
like most Dems, willingly committing national suicide. Virtue signal, yes, but when they go into the voting booth I think there is some secret PDJT voting going on.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 18, 2019 11:49 AM (LISuA)

I don't share your optimism. I've been around "crazy people" for too long. They. Don't. Care. They will vote for seditious and insane people that support their ideology without hesitation.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 18, 2019 12:15 PM (H8QX8)

406 380If he doesn't put them in jail, the country will
break apart anyways. Americans won't tolerate out two tier legal system
much longer.

Posted by: trev006 at June 18, 2019 12:11 PM (9jPzf)
Just MHO, but 48% of the people or more (left mostly) don't even recognize that as a problem. I have zero faith in any of the IG, AG, congressional investigations or anything of that sort. Nothing is going to happen except to get some good campaign sound bites. I hope I'm wrong, I really do - but evidence thus far tells me I'm not.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 12:16 PM (N39Ws)

407 Perhaps posters who are younger don't realize what it was like to live through it.

Yeah I think that's the main lack of comprehension here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 12:16 PM (39g3+)

408 It's really about time that people figured out they are not going to react to the usual warnings Republicans are endeared to like liberty, constitution, law, order and love of country.

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Yeah. Philosophy and policy don't matter, sad to say. Trump understands what most (R)s do not: the emotional appeal.

Our politics have descended into a morass of fear, uncertainty, doubt, and frankly hate. And that won't change, ever, until someone wins yugely. That's what you need to focus on as a politician.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 12:16 PM (AzW6q)

409 Insomniac and da Nurse !

Posted by: JT at June 18, 2019 12:15 PM (Y9Ocz)

hubba hubba..have they checked in here at all?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 12:16 PM (a0IVu)

410 would have been a Red wave if the GOPe had a spine.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at June 18, 2019 12:14 PM (DB16e)
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And they would ride on unicorns and serve free lunches of black swan along with the sole non-crazy lib.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 12:16 PM (DuZls)

411 Per Drudge, Trump plans to live-tweet the Dem debates.

I. Don't. Have. The. Words.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (Z4rgH)

Just when I think Trump is simply a very smart man.

He reasserts his God-Emperor status.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 18, 2019 12:16 PM (r1/AF)

412 Who's oil was loaded aboard the tankers that were hit?"

Neither.

Ethanol and Naphtha. Still something, well... fishy about those targets.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:16 PM (6qErC)

413 404
OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

Insomniac and da Nurse !

Posted by: JT at June 18, 2019 12:15 PM (Y9Ocz)
Well, that explains why certain pharmaceutical and beauty/personal product manufacturers are up.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 12:17 PM (N39Ws)

414 I think a big part was the Ruling Class (Ryan etc) sabotaging the base. Why not pass more popular legislation?

And the legislation that they did pass, they failed to explain it to people. Consider that most people think they got a tax increase.

Here is something you might not know about the tax bill. Republicans changed the law so that if you discharge your student loans due to a disability, you no longer have to pay taxes on it as income.

Would you rather owe the bank 250,000 or the IRS 75K?

Why didn't the dems pass that provision?

Posted by: David Prince at June 18, 2019 12:17 PM (JkygK)

415 Our politics have descended into a morass of fear, uncertainty, doubt, and frankly hate."

1850's called...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:17 PM (6qErC)

416 Pile on top of that the credible threat of the President being impeached soon, so long as the dems could just make some GAINZZZ in the Senate (not even a majority, just a win), and they SHOULD have had a wave. Everything was in their favor.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (AzW6q)

___

Do you not remember what the senate map looked like? 27 Dem seats up, with a majority of them in states Trump won. And the yonly lost 2 net seats.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:17 PM (FiUMj)

417 >> Why are we talking Chris Christie's big boobs?
>> Posted by: Jeb!

The Bush/Christie ticket might have been nicknamed Mooby Dick.

Posted by: 40 miles north at June 18, 2019 12:18 PM (o2vOl)

418 I have a 20 year old niece who promptly failed out of college because she didn't go to class. She had decent enough grades in public high school but is now striving to be a tattoo artist. When I'm not cringing, we talk a bit. She said she sorta liked Bernie because of his stand on "women's rights." I asked her what rights exactly do women lack in her view. Got the old equal pay thing. I said, well, you and (insert my son's name here) were at the same college. He went to class and got his degree in engineering and integrated science and technology and passed several certification classes while also working part time at a local engineering firm. You didn't go to class and are now seeking to tattoo. He's going to make more money than you. Is that a "rights" question or a skills and "time spent working" question? She said, no, of course he should make more. I said that in Bernie world he would not, you would both get the same income. Of course, then the person who went to class and work would have no reason to do so because it wouldn't advance them, so what happens to society in general if there is no impetus to actually improve one's earning potential? That would probably glut the tattoo artist market.

Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:18 PM (nRWPy)

419 OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

well it was beyond meat but that fizzled (sizzled?). I think it has something to do with China. But these things change quickly. I can't believe there are people paid good money to write every day that the market went up because of buyers and then it went down because of sellers, I could tell you what the weather did yesterday too and why.

Posted by: Quint at June 18, 2019 12:19 PM (n13/j)

420 413 404
OT, does anyone know what is driving the stock market rally today?

Posted by: IC at June 18, 2019 11:35 AM (a0IVu)

Insomniac and da Nurse !

Posted by: JT at June 18, 2019 12:15 PM (Y9Ocz)
Well, that explains why certain pharmaceutical and beauty/personal product manufacturers are up.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 18, 2019 12:17 PM (N39Ws)

What do you mean the warehouse is empty? We sent you 3 months' supply last week!

Posted by: Trojan Southeast Region Logistics at June 18, 2019 12:19 PM (RD7QR)

421 The Madman is going to live tweet the Dem debates. Oh boy.

Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 18, 2019 12:19 PM (xTFXi)

422 Ethanol and Naphtha. Still something, well... fishy about those targets.
======================
Maybe the much, much lower flash points of the cargo?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 18, 2019 12:19 PM (bWBdM)

423 they can see Canadian expropriation of Chinese millionaire properties.
That's the first thing I would have threatened; making Chinese persona non grata, full expulsion, and seize all their Canadian assets. Justin would never threaten that let alone done it though -- they're probably his biggest contributors.

I don't know how much important agri is like wheat we sell them or oil; and if that would be (easily?) replaceable by the Chinese from other sources but I would think it would hurt them in the short run at least. I'd think we'd be able to sell grain elsewhere although, as I admit, I don't know abut those sorts of trade issues. And apparently the canola tariff (or ban?) by the Chinese is aimed at Liberal cabinet ministers with canola businesses.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2019 12:19 PM (Dh1wo)

424 I knew from the beginning that it was going to be Cruz or Trump in the primaries. After listening to a Trump rally, I started realizing that he was fearless and had a deep affection for this country.

After that, Cruz sounded like just another run-of-the-mill politician.

Posted by: Sooner at June 18, 2019 12:20 PM (Fs5vw)

425 If you guys haven't noticed, American politics go back and forth every election or 2. 2008 yuuge Dem, Then 2010 yuuge Rep. Then 2012 yuuuge-ish Dem. Then 2014 yuuge Rep. Then 2016, Trump. Then 2018 blue wave lite.

I sometimes feel like if the parties didn't do any campaigning and spent no money, the results wouldn't be any different. You have 45% on each side with 10% in the middle that flip a coin every 2 years.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:20 PM (FiUMj)

426 On the Equal Pay thing, I saw someone (I think an economist) point out that it's entirely false, because if it were true men wouldn't be able to find a job since women would be paid less for the same work.

And yet...that isn't happening.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 18, 2019 12:20 PM (PFy0L)

427 Explanations of market moves are always a posteriori guesses that mostly reveal the biases of the guesser. If these people knew what they where talking about, they WOULDN'T talk about it. They would pre-emptively invest appropriately and profit instead.

Posted by: irright at June 18, 2019 12:04 PM (RVcmP)

Yeah, that's also how you know fortune tellers, astrologers, televangelists, mediums, etc, are frauds, If they could actually do what they sell, they'd own the world.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 12:21 PM (m79Dg)

428 Buttigieg / Swallwell 2020
You Know You Want It

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 18, 2019 12:21 PM (AM1GF)

429 Do you not remember what the senate map looked like? 27 Dem seats up, with a majority of them in states Trump won. And the yonly lost 2 net seats.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:17 PM (FiUMj)

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I do, and the Democrats around me (there's a lot of them) knew that too. It should be a motivator. They should have had monster turnout, and it never materialized.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2019 12:22 PM (AzW6q)

430 Stock market.

Did a sex-doll IPO go public?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 18, 2019 12:23 PM (CSYCT)

431 Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:18 PM (nRWPy)
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Brilliant, measured reply. She's lucky to have you for an uncle.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (bWBdM)

432 hubba hubba..have they checked in here at all?

Not that I've seen, understandably so. B'Gal and I are meeting them for lunch tomorrow afternoon after B'Gal's daktari appt.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (HaL55)

433 Ethanol and Naphtha. Still something, well... fishy about those targets.
======================
Maybe the much, much lower flash points of the cargo?"

Ok, so better pics... neither was oil, tho, and both had loaded in the region headed for Asian markets...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (6qErC)

434 I sometimes feel like if the parties didn't do any campaigning and spent no money, the results wouldn't be any different. You have 45% on each side with 10% in the middle that flip a coin every 2 years.

I think the same thing. Its like a pendulum and we're just on the ride.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (39g3+)

435 Ethanol and Naphtha. Still something, well... fishy about those targets.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:16 PM (6qErC)

I think it was just that they were slow, unguarded, and neither one was carrying the flag of a country that had the ability to effectively retaliate. (Norway and Japan)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (Kpl3J)

436 You can't make peace with the left. That's an
oxymoron. They exist only to amass more power. Peace with them means
you're a slave or dead.

Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:07 PM (nRWPy)

In my world peace with them means there is just enough of them left to build my frigging pyramid.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (9Om/r)

437 426 On the Equal Pay thing, I saw someone (I think an economist) point out that it's entirely false, because if it were true men wouldn't be able to find a job since women would be paid less for the same work.

And yet...that isn't happening.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 18, 2019 12:20 PM (PFy0L)

____

I've been saying this forever. If you could get a woman to do the same job, with the same results for 77% the price of man, why would anyone ever hire a man? It's the easiest retort to the inequality argument, yet I never hear it made by anyone on the right.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (FiUMj)

438 389. Honestly Trump could rewrite "The Art of War for the 21st Century". What I noticed about the above list is that two of the finalist on the above list Trump and Carson were not Career Politicians. I think that is why they were still on the list at the end.

The Dem's all sound the same, and have nothing that separates them from each other than color or what sex they are.

Posted by: Picric at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (nonGu)

439 Buttigieg / Swallwell 2020
You Know You Want It
Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 18, 2019 12:21 PM (AM1GF)

Everyone's a little gay.--Mayor Buttplug.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (m79Dg)

440 I saw Sex Doll IPO open for Green Day at the Grotto.

Posted by: Axeman at June 18, 2019 12:25 PM (DuZls)

441 It would be nice if we could get our "leaders" to understand this.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 18, 2019 12:12 PM (H8QX

I've had people say to me that I'm "too radical." I tell them I'm not radical, I'm reality based and know what I know through observation, not ideology. If they're confused they should read more history, even recent history based in fact not spastic leftist spin. It's almost like the completely missed everything from the French Revolution onward.

Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:25 PM (nRWPy)

442 It doesn't take a "plot" for the wolves to go after the slowest and weakest buffalo in the herd.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 12:25 PM (Kpl3J)

443 The vote harvesting in California needs to be challenged along with a lot of other rules in Dempocrat states and push to have their EC votes disallowed/invalidated (and other votes for that matter) because they are not securing the voting process. I'm sure Trump has something in mind to protect against fraud, and if he doesn't he needs to, as a top election priority.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 18, 2019 12:25 PM (kfcYC)

444 neither one was carrying the flag of a country that had the ability to effectively retaliate"

Those are the owners. They fly Marshall Islands and Panama flags...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:25 PM (6qErC)

445 There's a nood

Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2019 12:26 PM (cF8AT)

446 sometimes feel like if the parties didn't do any
campaigning and spent no money, the results wouldn't be any different.
You have 45% on each side with 10% in the middle that flip a coin every 2
years.

I think the same thing. Its like a pendulum and we're just on the ride.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (39g3+)

I agree in general but maybe they have me spooked. I don't believe the nation is creating as many new normals as lefties. I hope I am wrong and too negative on the subject. I still think we will win if we GOTV like it was the most important thing ever.

Posted by: Quint at June 18, 2019 12:27 PM (n13/j)

447
Per Drudge, Trump plans to live-tweet the Dem debates.

I predict that every one of them will have a nickname when the night is over.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 18, 2019 12:27 PM (TAmPV)

448 444 neither one was carrying the flag of a country that had the ability to effectively retaliate"

Those are the owners. They fly Marshall Islands and Panama flags...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:25 PM (6qErC)

Oh if they had seen that Flag of the Marshall Islands it surely would have struck terror into the attacker's hearts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2019 12:27 PM (Kpl3J)

449 Oh if they had seen that Flag of the Marshall Islands it surely would have struck terror into the attacker's hearts."

Heh.

IMO, there is a story there - hitting two smaller, faster tankers NOT carrying oil leads one to think that said attacks were perhaps just a wee bit better planned than at first glance...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 18, 2019 12:29 PM (6qErC)

450 In my world peace with them means there is just enough of them left to build my frigging pyramid.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM (9Om/r)

Imagine leftists building anything that lasted.

Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2019 12:29 PM (nRWPy)

451 57 Jeb was so low energy and boring. That's all I remember about his campaign. And Kasich was into hugging and pizza.
Posted by: IC

Kasich treats pizza with more respect than Joe Biden treats tweenage girls.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 18, 2019 12:29 PM (kfcYC)

452 I knew from the beginning that it was going to be Cruz or Trump in the primaries. After listening to a Trump rally, I started realizing that he was fearless and had a deep affection for this country.

After that, Cruz sounded like just another run-of-the-mill politician.
Posted by: Sooner at June 18, 2019 12:20 PM (Fs5vw)

Both were anti establishment but Cruz was still a member of the ruling class. I think the GOP base has always wanted a good candidate from the private sector but Cain and Fiorina were lacking a certain X factor to get either of them over the top.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 18, 2019 12:32 PM (y7DUB)

453 -
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I sometimes feel like if the parties didn't do
any campaigning and spent no money, the results wouldn't be any
different. You have 45% on each side with 10% in the middle that flip a
coin every 2 years.

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I think the same thing. Its like a pendulum and we're just on the ride.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2019 12:24 PM

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Too true. Sadly, most voters give as much thought to their vote as a pendulum does to it's arc. (whether they're capable of giving more is debatable)

Posted by: irright at June 18, 2019 12:32 PM (RVcmP)

454 "throw shade" is to twitter as "fling poo" is to the the primate house at the zoo. (BIRM)

Posted by: Downcast at June 18, 2019 12:48 PM (CiaQs)

455 all the cool kids say "throw shade" and the ATL. right JD ?

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