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I (and most of the people around these parts) haven't been a neo-con for a very long time. But the Leftist/Democrat disinformation engine has been put into overdrive...the usual suspects are claiming that Pompeo and Bolton and Trump are provoking Iran because they are frantic for war.

Well, we have been at war with Iran for 40 years...the problem is that we didn't admit it. Iran has been the world's leader in fomenting terrorism against America and its allies, and is directly responsible for many of the American combat deaths in Iraq, via their roadside bomb technology.

Iran Shoots Down U.S. Spy Drone; CENTCOM Says It Was In International Airspace

So this is not surprising at all. If the drone was over Iranian territory, which is what the Mullahs claim (and I don't believe), then that's the cost of intelligence gathering. However, if the drone was truly over international airspace then we must respond. But contrary to the hopes and masturbatory dreams of the Democrats, we do not need to send armored columns into Iran. it is a fragile country, with many targets of opportunity that can be destroyed from afar, without risking American lives. Electric grids, their single gasoline refinery, military communications...all are excellent targets. And outside their borders they are even more vulnerable. Lebanon, Syria, Yemen (and others) have Iranian troops, advisors, military equipment, or all three.

And what is the argument against an American response? Well, the Iranian navy could close the straits of Hormuz, at least temporarily. That would send shock waves throughout the world. But who buys the most Mideast oil? China. And who can ramp up production, courtesy of fracking? America. However, any closure of the straits would demand a world-wide response, so both the closure and the Iranian navy's days would be numbered.

Iran is clearly testing the resolve of the current administration, and hoping that internal political pressure will force President Trump to moderate the sanctions because of the threat of war. But President Trump has shown that when threatened, he tends to punch back...harder. So Iran's typical game might not work now.

One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened. I like the idea of keeping them off balance and unable to point to American "provocation" and play the victim card.

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1 SCREAM AND LEAP!

On Iran, that is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (ClOmq)

2 damnit, just missed first...

so SPONGE!!!!!1

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (8D42x)

3 >>One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened. I like the idea of keeping them off balance and unable to point to American "provocation" and play the victim card.




Yes, this option.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (bDqIh)

4 Perhaps, to be PC, we should call the area the Gays of Hormuz. "Straights" is just so triggering.

Or the Transgenders of Hormuz.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:02 AM (ClOmq)

5 th

Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 11:02 AM (9753m)

6 The Islamic Republic of Iran.

Thank you Jimmy Carter!

The gift which keeps on giving since 1979.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2019 11:02 AM (Z+IKu)

7 Where is John McCain when you need him?

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 11:04 AM (9VeU0)

8 Bomb, bomb - Bomb, bomb Iran

Posted by: G marks the spot at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (r6yPR)

9 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (9gDA7)

10 Why do they bother calling Iran a "republic"? There's nothing even remotely like a republic about it.


"Kingdom" would be closer in spirit, even though a king doesn't run it. Or the "State" of Iran?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (ClOmq)

11 The main thing what worries me about this is how our Left/Statists and the Iranian Mullahs are so...in sync on this.

They're goading the President, together. They're cooperating.

Hmm is that somehow NOT collusion?

Regardless, I agree with you, CBD. Investigate this, if need be a response (which in no way needs to be "proportional" - I say, hurt the HELL out of them) that doesn't require any troops on the ground.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (Rarvo)

12 I missed a bomb. Stupid me

Posted by: G marks the spot at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (r6yPR)

13 Damn it, I wanted to talk about the Gracci.

I had thoughts.

Ah well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (bcbK8)

14 I like the stealth option but I would also consider a very public option. They don't seem to get subtle messages, perhaps a dozen tomahawks launched at their oil terminals or refining site.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (PxX58)

15 top 100

Posted by: fox at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (UuVBv)

16 There are lots of options.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (axyOa)

17 I am Legion.

Posted by: Stuxnet 2.0 at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (hjaPQ)

18 One oil refinery. Uno. Ein. Odyn. A well-placed LGM can put them out of commission for quite some time and the Euros can buy their gas from us. And the Chinese can suck hind teat.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (RD7QR)

19 This calls for smart diplomacy.

Posted by: John Kerry, Diplomat Emeritus at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (fZcn6)

20 The only reason Iran can play the "victim" is our absolutely corrupted Media sets that up for them.

They are awful, aggressive, despotic bullies.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (Rarvo)

21
One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened. I like the idea of keeping them off balance and unable to point to American "provocation" and play the victim card.

stay tuned

Posted by: The Mossad at June 20, 2019 11:07 AM (ceIDk)

22 They don't seem to get subtle messages, perhaps a dozen tomahawks launched at their oil terminals or refining site.

Pick an IRGC base. Pave it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 11:07 AM (Boy/L)

23 Hey BUT Iran said they are "READY FOR WAR" HAHAHAHA Didn't Saddam Hussein & Baghdad Bob say the same thing ???

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 20, 2019 11:07 AM (BqBId)

24 I missed a bomb. Stupid me
Posted by: G marks the spot at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (r6yPR)


Like I tell my daughter in times of failure.

Try Harder.

Posted by: Sponge at June 20, 2019 11:07 AM (9gDA7)

25 Has there ever been a regime toppled because it's infrastructure was destroyed? I can't think of any.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 20, 2019 11:07 AM (wCmLp)

26 The first cruise missile needs to be targeted on George Soros

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at June 20, 2019 11:07 AM (FTPVM)

27 Pick an IRGC base. Pave it.


like this idea

add the utter destruction of a major port, and I think that sends a message.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 20, 2019 11:08 AM (Rarvo)

28 Anyway, the Iranian government is in fact our enemy and I endorse treating them as such.

I don't see Trump going a'viking but I expect some sort of destructive response. Iran is poking, it needs to get poked back

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 20, 2019 11:08 AM (bcbK8)

29 There are lots of options.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:06 AM (axyOa)

Yup. And not a single sane one requires our fighting men on the ground anywhere near Iran.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 11:08 AM (wYseH)

30
Why do they bother calling Iran a "republic"? There's nothing even remotely like a republic about it.

It's like the days of the USSR. Commie countries always called themselves "the democratic republic of somethingorother"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 11:08 AM (aKsyK)

31 Yes, this option.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (bDqIh)


Just ask Israel to launch another cyber attack to take their power grid offline for a few hours.

Posted by: Sponge at June 20, 2019 11:08 AM (9gDA7)

32 11 The main thing what worries me about this is how our Left/Statists and the Iranian Mullahs are so...in sync on this.

They're goading the President, together. They're cooperating.

Hmm is that somehow NOT collusion?

Regardless, I agree with you, CBD. Investigate this, if need be a response (which in no way needs to be "proportional" - I say, hurt the HELL out of them) that doesn't require any troops on the ground.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (Rarvo)

If you were to stab Kerry -- METAPHORICALLY -- you would find Val Jarrett underneath. She's the Iranians' local representative and always has been.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:08 AM (RD7QR)

33 Please quit referring to the "Persian gulf" Just to troll the "persians", call it the Arabian Gulf.

Posted by: Ole, Evill twin of Sven at June 20, 2019 11:08 AM (vqIkG)

34 Kerry needs to be debriefed good and hard as a suspected foreign agent (unless he is registered under FARA, then to the camps with him).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM (1g7ch)

35 "The main thing what worries me about this is how our Left/Statists and the Iranian Mullahs are so...in sync on this."

*cough*Kerry*cough*?

Posted by: barbarausa at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM (W7IZQ)

36 Iran needs the US to respond. The population is in turmoil, the economy is in the gutter, if the US responds by shooting the Mullah's just say this is why we must increase our Uranium production, so shut up population. Plus our little Omar gets to spout off her pie hole on the House Floor.

Trump will respond just maybe not in a way that we see visibly.

Posted by: Picric at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM (eh8mr)

37 Has there ever been a regime toppled because it's infrastructure was destroyed? I can't think of any.
>>
Nazi Germany comes to mind.

Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM (9753m)

38 I like the idea of sending about 40 of those patrol craft like what they "captured" awhile back. Dare them to come out and play.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM (axyOa)

39 I'm beginning to think Iran's leadership is locked into this provocation game, perhaps as Iraq was before Hussein met the hangman.

Iran has a lot of internal issues, disaffected youth with nothing better to do than act out. Iran's leadership has to focus their attention away from itself, so being jack wagons and doing the Death To America schtick keeps the agitated population distracted.

I think in that part of the world too, image means a lot. If Iran looked weak, they'd lose influence. Playing their games means projecting an image of strength, even if they aren't actually strong.

There's a lot we can do without getting kinetic, but I do wonder if that kinetic response might be the most effective one.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM (tVWQB)

40 This kind of thing is a theme in VDH's lecturing. Getting deterrence back is a bitch and a half and is extremely dangerous. It could lead to a great big war. The question, though, is whether the costs of re-establishing deterrence are worth it. Given that the West is under attack by Islam on several continents (and from within by its Leftists), re-establishing deterrence is probably an existential imperative.

It can be done and there will be costs - dead men, disrupted trade, expenditure of treasure, etc. - but those costs will re-establish a semblance of order. Unless it all goes pear-shaped and we end up in a regional or global mega-war.

Of course, losing deterrence will often have that outcome, too. See Europe, ca. 1936-1945.

Losing deterrence puts you in a high-risk situation, and we lost deterrence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:10 AM (I2dne)

41 But contrary to the hopes and masturbatory dreams of the Democrats, we do not need to send armored columns into Iran.

and

Well, the Iranian navy could close the straights of Hormuz, at least temporarily.
_______

The first is absolutely true. We are primarily a naval power, and should act like it. I do not see why we just couldn't sink the Iranian navy - all of it - if they tried that. That's what the Brits would have done under Victoria.

Just because under Bush we decided to go all Wilsonian, that doesn't mean we cannot use military and naval power at all. Just avoid committing to open-ended deployments, especially of troops.

Granted, thanks to the Bush policy, we probably can't even do as much with troops as we should, but that still doesn't mean we can't do anything.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2019 11:10 AM (VaN/j)

42 Pick an IRGC base. Pave it.


like this idea

add the utter destruction of a major port, and I think that sends a message.
Posted by: BlackOrchid


Neutron bomb it. Chernobyl the area for the next 10k years.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:10 AM (sRczR)

43 >>Has there ever been a regime toppled because it's infrastructure was destroyed? I can't think of any.

It's not just the destruction of infrastructure. It's destroying the infrastructure that provides the funding to continue their terrorism and nuclear development.

Lack of funds is what ultimately doomed the treasonous south.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:10 AM (PxX58)

44 I missed a bomb. Stupid me
Posted by: G marks the spot
............

The Iranians won't..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:10 AM (so+oy)

45 Iran took out a piece of hardware, but with no loss of life, so a proportional response would likewise take away some hardware, but no loss of life. The Israelis have gotten pretty good at doing this with weapons depots in Syria - there'll be video of huge explosions, massive destruction in some Syrian city, but almost no casualties because about a little bit before the strike an Israeli agent whispers "psst, you people better get outta there, cuz the missiles are gonna start to land in about 90 minutes."

The big weakness of our current generation of drones is that they're about as hard to shoot down as a Cessna 172.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM (Kpl3J)

46 Where did I put that old lead apron for x-rays again?...
Anybody seen it?

Posted by: catman at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM (4HMlb)

47 Iran needs the US to respond.

This is correct. The Iranian despots need the USA as an enemy/distraction.

Also, the US Statists need this. Badly. So, they are in sync; the Left and the Mullahs are partners.

It's scary. It's not just that jabrone Kerry either, altho he should certainly swing.

I want not a single US soldier put at risk on the ground in Persia. Never not ever.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM (Rarvo)

48 Hair status: room temperature.


I probably should be more angry over what Iran is attempting to do. Though if I had to pick an option, I say we go for victim status and try not to provoke anything overtly. We've shed enough blood for that region. They'd have to do something big to make me want to do more.

Posted by: G. Gnome at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM (al6UK)

49 Sometimes we "draw a charge." Provoke somebody to see if they do something, and then they do it, then we can use that as a reason.

I don't know that the drone was over international territory. Story is 17 miles away from Iran. Iran has a weapon that can take out our drones from that far? That seems bad. But also useful info to have. And also something not all that useful to admit. Punk Iranians can take our $180M tech out of the sky just like that?

The play should have been it malfunctioned and crashed. Even if they HAD shot it down.

Instead seems like people are trying to spin up a confrontation.





Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM (9VeU0)

50 I'm a MOAB on their oil refinery kind of guy myself

Posted by: G marks the spot at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM (r6yPR)

51
Kerry needs to be debriefed good and hard as a suspected foreign agent (unless he is registered under FARA, then to the camps with him).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM


& this "debriefing" should entail him being strapped to a board with a wet towel over his face

as one of you malcontents is fond of saying "it's not 'water-boarding' if you use diesel..."

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 20, 2019 11:12 AM (hx3Q8)

52 30


Why do they bother calling Iran a "republic"? There's nothing even remotely like a republic about it.



It's like the days of the USSR. Commie countries always called themselves "the democratic republic of somethingorother"



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019

*
*
. . .

I used to notice that on Mission: Impossible. They'd make up country names, but the Soviet clones in the stories always had "People's," "Democratic," or "Republic" in there somewhere.

Even the USSR cared what the international community thought, at least nominally. Do the Moslems even care what we infidels think of them?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:12 AM (ClOmq)

53 Dare them to come out and play.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM (axyOa)

But with lots and lots of air cover.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 11:12 AM (wYseH)

54 Ditto on no boots on the ground - it would be a disaster for multiple reasons.

Like every other conflict, the ROEs would make our boys fight with one hand behind their back, same as always. The PR hit for the first captured soldier would be abysmal - and more than likely we'd have another Bergdahl moment were an idiot defects. And finally, we don't need yet another "police action".

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:12 AM (GEo5Y)

55 One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened. I like the idea of keeping them off balance and unable to point to American "provocation" and play the victim card.

Yes, this option.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (bDqIh)

how about a couple mines on ships as their leaving port. use Iranian designs and break the ships as they hit the mouth of the harbor. that should clog their ports for a couple months...

but make it look like they hit their own mines.

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 11:12 AM (8D42x)

56
Just avoid committing to open-ended deployments, especially of troops.

Small things have a tendency to become big things.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 11:13 AM (aKsyK)

57 Iran's population...about a third are pro mullah, about a third are pro West, and about a third don't care. A big response will affect that balance. A proportioned, targeted response will too, but more in our favor. PDT will, I have no doubt, choose wisely.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:13 AM (axyOa)

58 In the immortal words of Thomas Stonewall Jackson when asked what to do about "those people over there". He replied, "Kill them. Kill them all."

Posted by: Cosda at June 20, 2019 11:13 AM (rJJn4)

59 Yay, punk monk.

the usual suspects are claiming that Pompeo and Bolton and Trump are provoking Iran because they are frantic for war.

I agree with a poster earlier who said that nickelfucker Kerry is behind this. I wouldn't put anything past that treasonous bastard.

Arrest him and throw him in Gitmo just for shits and giggles.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2019 11:13 AM (Ki5SV)

60 Respond decisively with overwhelming force or not at all.

Pissing around just gets people killed.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 11:14 AM (BD/yx)

61 How about we announce that would couldn't give a fuck about Kashoggi and that we fully support our allies in the region doing what they need to do to combat Iranian aggression. Let the fuckin Saudis take care of it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2019 11:14 AM (gC2IV)

62 If you are going to close the straights, you have to close the homos, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2019 11:14 AM (WG6O9)

63
But with lots and lots of air cover.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 11:12 AM

****

Exactly!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:14 AM (axyOa)

64 Drones are spendy but expendable. If I were the head moth*ucker in charge I would keep sanctions in place and watch for better reasons to use force while informing and paying and aiding my allies to do undercover (covert) hostile actions. Iran needs a ass woopin. If they escalate I would not hesitate to take out Iranian infrastructure and work up to killing the Iranian leadership.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at June 20, 2019 11:15 AM (0OmEj)

65 Proposal: Tell Kim Jung Un that we'll lift all sanctions on NK if they topple Iran.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 20, 2019 11:15 AM (KUaJL)

66 Send an FBI team to Iran to find out who bombed the oil tanker and who shot down the drone then forward their findings to Jerry Nadler and MSNBC for resolution.

Put one of their top men like Mueller or Comey on it.

Honk.honk.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2019 11:15 AM (Z+IKu)

67 But contrary to the hopes and masturbatory dreams of the Democrats, we do not need to send armored columns into Iran.

You misspelled Uniparty.

Posted by: rickl at June 20, 2019 11:15 AM (xjiRE)

68 One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened.

You forgot the evil laugh. Then it's perfect.

Posted by: t-bird at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (x/2Z8)

69 62 If you are going to close the straights, you have to close the homos, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2019 11:14 AM (WG6O9)

Somewhere, a significant percentage of the people running for the Democrat nomination are weeping at this thought.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (RD7QR)

70 I am not exactly a neo-con anymore. I do think that periodically bombing and shelling Iranian ships, bases, and ports is a great way to remind them they are playing out of their league. After 8 years of Obummer the Faranco-Muslim Surrender Monkey Iran needs a reality adjustment. Give it to them!

Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (W+kMI)

71 The first is absolutely true. We are primarily a naval power, and should act like it. I do not see why we just couldn't sink the Iranian navy - all of it - if they tried that. That's what the Brits would have done under Victoria. "

Sending the US Navy against the Iranian Navy would be sending a squadron of modern destroyers against a swarm of glorified bass boats with ak-47's. I think the Texas Fish and Game Department (Parks and Wildlife, officially) has just about as much naval firepower as the Iranian Navy does.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (Kpl3J)

72 1. It's "straits", not "straights".

2. America has all the options here. Iran is desperate. Trump is going to win - again.

Posted by: Buck Ofama at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (CrJQa)

73 OMG!!! THIS IS A DAY OF DAYS:

I CAN NOW SUCK MY OWN DIK!!!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (FTPVM)

74 One of my favorite things about living in a progressive wonderland like MN and working for a global, diversity-focused corporation is how cool and acceptable it is for these fucktards to portray anyone from the south as a mouth breathing, cousin humping hillbilly and how you're going to get the Ned Beatty treatment whenever you visit there.

Posted by: jhawk90 at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (Xvo1a)

75 Arrest him and throw him in Gitmo just for shits and giggles.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2019 11:13 AM (Ki5SV)


I've never seen that particular spelling of "woodchipper" before - but then again I'm not much of a cultured man.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (GEo5Y)

76 Where's a Stuxnet virus when you need it, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (bDqIh)

77 they claim they didn't shoot our drone in international waters (and claim they didn't blow up the tankers) ... and we didn't blow up their refinery ... or we have "no comment, we're looking into it".


Many still doubt they did blow up the tankers, and claim it was a false flag. Could be by the Saudis, but there does seem to be evidence it was Iran, and why are they shooting at our drones ... so we can't see what mischief they are up to?


There was a response to the tankers ... several of their little ships (that had allegedly been carrying missiles or some such) were quickly aflame. And the last I saw those drones are $222M each, how the heck they cost so much is beyond me, after the initial research. But surely there is some local radar data confirming location, to convince the public. We need to find the right target ... tick tock.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (Cus5s)

78 65 Proposal: Tell Kim Jung Un that we'll lift all sanctions on NK if they topple Iran.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 20, 2019 11:15 AM (KUaJL)

I'd settle for one of Kim's "special" executions. Maybe pecked to death by peacocks as a historical reference.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

79 If you are going to close the straights, you have to close the homos, too.

The Straights of Homoz? It all gets so confusing.

Posted by: t-bird at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (x/2Z8)

80 8 Bomb, bomb - Bomb, bomb Iran
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Heh, just thought of that old parody too.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (W+kMI)

81 Nuke the bastards

Posted by: General and First Lady in Mars Attacks! at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (O2RFr)

82 I think we should send a sternly worded letter.

And then, coincidentally, some bad things should happen to some places in Iran. The kinds of places with Air Defense radars and weapons.

And then say, wow, we have no idea what happened.

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (9VeU0)

83 25 Has there ever been a regime toppled because it's infrastructure was destroyed? I can't think of any.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 20, 2019 11:07 AM (wCmLp)
______

That's clearly where Japan was headed in 1945, but we short-circuited the process with nukes.

Pre-industrial societies are harder to do that to (see VDH on this.) But it's one step toward that end. It cripples them economically, which is the point.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 20, 2019 11:18 AM (VaN/j)

84 "The destruction of their single gasoline refinery appears to have been a false flag operation."

Posted by: t-bird at June 20, 2019 11:18 AM (x/2Z8)

85 10 Why do they bother calling Iran a "republic"? There's nothing even remotely like a republic about it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (ClOmq)

Reminds me of that Archer episode when they said they were taking him to the Glorious Democratic People's Republic of Korea. And he responded, yeah just shoot me now. Because it is none of those things.

Posted by: Jordan61, PNW MoMe Survivor & Awesome Mug Winner! at June 20, 2019 11:18 AM (Ez6QX)

86 We need to find the right target ... tick tock.

I agree...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 11:19 AM (O2RFr)

87 Our own Declaration of Independence is based on the ideal that it is a People's duty and Right, to control their government. That it is their RIGHT to force said government into compliance with their wishes.

The idea that you can go to War, and NOT punish the citizens of a country, is stupid. You MUST punish them, or War will never end, as they will not FORCE their Government to do their wishes.

We are now in a State of Perpetual war. Why? Because we are unwilling to punish the Citizens and members of the Group who is actually at War with us.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:19 AM (NgKpN)

88 61 How about we announce that would couldn't give a fuck about Kashoggi"

For people who get all upset about that, I want to tell them "Okay, I support us taking the exact same action in that case as you propose to take against Kim Jong Un for murdering his brother, and against President Xi for harvesting all those prisoner's organs. Are you putting out arrest warrants for them????"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:19 AM (Kpl3J)

89 Of course I would sell this country out. I have many times and would gladly do it again.

Posted by: John Kerry at June 20, 2019 11:19 AM (FTPVM)

90 Posted by: Buck Ofama at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (CrJQa)

Thanks. Fixed.

And I agree, we have many options...the Iranians have only two.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 11:20 AM (wYseH)

91 74 One of my favorite things about living in a progressive wonderland like MN and working for a global, diversity-focused corporation is how cool and acceptable it is for these fucktards to portray anyone from the south as a mouth breathing, cousin humping hillbilly and how you're going to get the Ned Beatty treatment whenever you visit there.
Posted by: jhawk90 at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (Xvo1a)

People from Minnesota all think they sound like the news casters when they all really sound like Sarah Palin (or Sheriff Hanson).

They really do, you betcha.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 11:20 AM (BD/yx)

92 The big weakness of our current generation of drones is that they're about as hard to shoot down as a Cessna 172.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM

*****

Heh.
Shines the cowling of Beach Bonanza.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:20 AM (axyOa)

93 it is a Republic but in the Plato sense, where guardians of orthodoxy decide on what's Islamic (in this case). like how the American Republic is presided over by Ruth Ginsberg's undead cadaver.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 20, 2019 11:20 AM (14Ghu)

94 Surely the military assets we have in place in the Gulf know where the missile originated from. Find the launcher and make it disappear. Message sent. If Iran escalates further with missiles, make them disappear along with a refinery.I don't want us caught up in a war -especially over there. But Iran is a bully, and bullies only understand one thing. If we have to go full on, then tell the Joint Chiefs to go full on. No holds barred, no ROE. Do the job, and bring everyone home.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:20 AM (N39Ws)

95 86 We need to find the right target ... tick tock.

I agree...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 11:19 AM (O2RFr)

Me! Me! Target me!

Posted by: John Kerry at June 20, 2019 11:20 AM (FTPVM)

96 https://abcn.ws/2WW3BR2
*******
Trump says 'Iran made a very big mistake' in shooting down US military drone - ABC News

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (BqBId)

97 Miss Lindsey's been talkin' smack....guess he thinks he'll get primaried, again.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (ykq7q)

98 Thomas Stonewall Jackson when asked what to do about "those people over there". He replied, "Kill them. Kill them all.""

Indeed. If you're gonna fight, then win. Otherwise, don't. "proportional" simply means "many on both sides will die"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (6qErC)

99 OK fine, diplomatic solution time. We send them every Dem-rat politician who signed off on the uranium and fiscal assets release deal. IN return they leave us and our allies the hell alone. Deal?

Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (W+kMI)

100 we can safely hit targets that would hurt iran and then wait and see if they want more punishment

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (V+Su2)

101 Me! Me! Target me!
Posted by: John Kerry

I was thinking Obama since he gave them the billions in cash to continue their"programs."

Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (O2RFr)

102 92
The big weakness of our current generation of drones is that they're about as hard to shoot down as a Cessna 172.



Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM



*****



Heh.

Shines the cowling of Beach Bonanza.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:20 AM (axyOa)
There was an article in the not too distant past that the communications between the drone and the controllers, including any audio/video/photography/data is not encrypted. Very easy to intercept.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (N39Ws)

103 If the risk is to international shipping, take out the silkworm missile bases.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:22 AM (qiqGr)

104 Perhaps we could get the same hackers who took over Baltimore's computer system to shift their focus.


Easterly.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 11:22 AM (cqNba)

105 vThere was an article in the not too distant past that the communications between the drone and the controllers, including any audio/video/photography/data is not encrypted. Very easy to intercept.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (N39Ws)


I rate this as untrue.

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 11:22 AM (9VeU0)

106 96 https://abcn.ws/2WW3BR2
*******
Trump says 'Iran made a very big mistake' in shooting down US military drone - ABC News
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (BqBId)

Sink a couple Iranian ships, cripple their refinery, and call it a day, Mein Trumpmeister. Don't let them distract you.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (RD7QR)

107 Many still doubt they did blow up the tankers, and claim it was a false flag. Could be by the Saudis, but there does seem to be evidence it was Iran, and why are they shooting at our drones ... so we can't see what mischief they are up to?"

Jeremy Corbyn in England, with no need for any pesky "evidence" at all, of course, immediately said "It's the JOOS! it's the JOOS!!!" He lives his life seeing nefarious, sneaky JOOS hiding in every shadow.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (Kpl3J)

108 >>Surely the military assets we have in place in the Gulf know where the missile originated from. Find the launcher and make it disappear. Message sent. If Iran escalates further with missiles, make them disappear along with a refinery.I don't want us caught up in a war -especially over there. But Iran is a bully, and bullies only understand one thing. If we have to go full on, then tell the Joint Chiefs to go full on. No holds barred, no ROE. Do the job, and bring everyone home.

I would agree with this if this was the first provocative act Iran has taken and not the 300th. The idea of proportional response does not seem to have the desired effect on Iran.

I'd like to see a more muscular response that says "Try that shit one more time and we will end you and then go have a beer.".

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (PxX58)

109 There was an article in the not too distant past that the communications between the drone and the controllers, including any audio/video/photography/data is not encrypted. Very easy to intercept.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:21 AM (N39Ws)


Yes in past which is how iran hijacked a drone a few years back. It is now mostly encrypted

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (V+Su2)

110 Just turn the whole place to glass.

Posted by: Dr Strangelove at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (4tVUV)

111
Alex Salvi @alexsalvinews
42m
#NEW on @OANN: The Supreme Court rules that a Peace Cross war memorial on public land outside Washington, D.C., can stand, determining in a 7-2 decision that it does not violate the Constitution.

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (BqBId)

112 I think we should send a sternly worded letter.

And then, coincidentally, some bad things should happen to some places in Iran. The kinds of places with Air Defense radars and weapons.

And then say, wow, we have no idea what happened.
Posted by: blaster

..............

yup.. play by their rules..

A midnight hit on some oil refineries with cruise missiles..

next day.. our response? Proof? where's the proof?

You guys coulda blown up your own refineries.. looks like a "false flag" attack to us!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (so+oy)

113 87 Our own Declaration of Independence is based on the ideal that it is a People's duty and Right, to control their government. That it is their RIGHT to force said government into compliance with their wishes.

The idea that you can go to War, and NOT punish the citizens of a country, is stupid. You MUST punish them, or War will never end, as they will not FORCE their Government to do their wishes.

We are now in a State of Perpetual war. Why? Because we are unwilling to punish the Citizens and members of the Group who is actually at War with us.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:19 AM (NgKpN)

I don't think that's a realistic portrayal. Certainly it is a valid strategy to inflict misery on the populace so they turn against their leaders, but the leadership is its own entity that we punish and incentivize accordingly. Like how a CEO and the firm are different entities.

Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 11:24 AM (EV0u2)

114 how you're going to get the Ned Beatty treatment whenever you visit there.

Posted by: jhawk90 at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (Xvo1a)

Whenever I go to the South I eat and drink quite well, enjoy the graciousness and friendliness of the typical Southerner, and absolutely love the architecture and respect for tradition and history.

I wonder which Ned Beatty movie that is in....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 11:24 AM (wYseH)

115 The mullah's nuts need to be chopped off and stuffed into his mouth.

good morning everyone!

Posted by: IC at June 20, 2019 11:25 AM (a0IVu)

116
how about a couple mines on ships as their leaving port. use Iranian designs and break the ships as they hit the mouth of the harbor. that should clog their ports for a couple months...

but make it look like they hit their own mines.
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 11:12 AM (8D42x)

Yeah, we could get a Good Navy SEAL to do it... like Chief Gallagher...

Oh, wait, sorry, we are busy putting our own Warriors on trial for War crimes.

/spit

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:25 AM (NgKpN)

117 Message to Iran: LOLGF!!!

Posted by: GEOTUS at June 20, 2019 11:25 AM (FTPVM)

118 I'd like to see a more muscular response that says "Try that shit one more time and we will end you and then go have a beer.".

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019

*
*
. . .
Nuke 'em 'til they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:25 AM (ClOmq)

119 The economic sanctions are working and Iran is lashing out.

Ratchet up the sanctions and get the EU fully on board.

Posted by: WisRich at June 20, 2019 11:25 AM (G0vdT)

120 And hey.. who is Kris?

I'm imagining he is Ace's love child by some foxy ewokette.. learning the business from pop...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:25 AM (so+oy)

121 Just turn the whole place to glass.
Posted by: Dr Strangelove at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (4tVUV)


Kinda' like a lighthouse beacon you can see from space. Seems like that would be handy.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:25 AM (GEo5Y)

122 >>I wonder which Ned Beatty movie that is in....

Aintry? This river don't go to Aintry.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:26 AM (PxX58)

123 You guys coulda blown up your own refineries.. looks like a "false flag" attack to us!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (so+oy)



Naw, must be the same guys who were blowing up pipelines and tankers...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 11:26 AM (1g7ch)

124 Whenever I go to the South I eat and drink quite well, enjoy the graciousness and friendliness of the typical Southerner, and absolutely love the architecture and respect for tradition and history.

I agree... Never met nicer people then I have in the South...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 11:26 AM (O2RFr)

125 My favorite retaliatory strike is still Airdropping feral hogs.

Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:27 AM (s6xyo)

126 Whenever I go to the South I eat and drink quite
well, enjoy the graciousness and friendliness of the typical Southerner,
and absolutely love the architecture and respect for tradition and
history.

I wonder which Ned Beatty movie that is in....


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019

*
*
. . .

I'm marooned in the depths of the South myself. (I grew up here, but I never felt I belonged, and still don't.) The people are generally fine. It's the lousy hot weather that'll get you.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:27 AM (ClOmq)

127 108 >>Surely the military assets we have in place in the Gulf know where the missile originated from. Find the launcher and make it disappear. Message sent. If Iran escalates further with missiles, make them disappear along with a refinery.I don't want us caught up in a war -especially over there. But Iran is a bully, and bullies only understand one thing. If we have to go full on, then tell the Joint Chiefs to go full on. No holds barred, no ROE. Do the job, and bring everyone home.

I would agree with this if this was the first provocative act Iran has taken and not the 300th. The idea of proportional response does not seem to have the desired effect on Iran.

I'd like to see a more muscular response that says "Try that shit one more time and we will end you and then go have a beer.".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc

Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:27 AM (W+kMI)

128 Naw, must be the same guys who were blowing up pipelines and tankers...
Posted by: Burnt Toast

...........

yeah! it was the Greenies!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:27 AM (so+oy)

129

Just muscular enough to not be mocked?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 11:28 AM (aKsyK)

130 114
how you're going to get the Ned Beatty treatment whenever you visit there.

Posted by: jhawk90 at June 20, 2019 11:16 AM (Xvo1a)

Whenever
I go to the South I eat and drink quite well, enjoy the graciousness
and friendliness of the typical Southerner, and absolutely love the
architecture and respect for tradition and history.

I wonder which Ned Beatty movie that is in....


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 11:24 AM (wYseH)
I enjoyed my time living down south, but I always kept my ears open for banjos.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (N39Ws)

131 We should just airdrop in AOC and a copy of her New Green Deal. Iran would cease to exist within a month.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (GEo5Y)

132 Sounds like an issue for other countries dependent on that oil. Let THEM solve a problem for once. Maybe take it up with the vaunted U.N.! A few strongly worded proclamations ought to do the trick.

Posted by: I Have Questions at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (BvNzB)

133 >>Just muscular enough to not be mocked?


Don't do stupid sh#t.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (bDqIh)

134 Surely the military assets we have in place in the Gulf know where the missile originated from.
==
except if it was manpad.

Looking at you Hillary

Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (3PMqH)

135 Probably a minority opinion , maybe not, but I see Iran as a distraction to the Trump agenda, which is what I care about..... this is why the Iran thing has legs with the Media Complex.....

Posted by: kraken at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (QWnPe)

136 Before we nuke Iran, at least let me do some window shopping for a mail order bride.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (0PDHs)

137 I like the idea of an industrial mishap in their very fragile refineries. The economy will start laboring almost immediately.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (LISuA)

138 My favorite retaliatory strike is still Airdropping feral hogs.


Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:27 AM

*****

Interestingly, I've received a note from a Canuck buddy of mine. Apparently some pigs brought into Canada years ago have gone native. The populations now measures into the hundreds of thousands of now feral pigs roaming about the central Provinces and threatening to spill over into the US. I'm thinking Pig Roundup and airdrop over Tehran.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (axyOa)

139 I don't think that's a realistic portrayal. Certainly it is a valid strategy to inflict misery on the populace so they turn against their leaders, but the leadership is its own entity that we punish and incentivize accordingly. Like how a CEO and the firm are different entities.
Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 11:24 AM (EV0u2)

This idea that a Government can be totally divorced from its people is false.

Unless they are from an outside occupying power, they are citizens of said country.

They may not care about the populace, but they are just Men and can be replaced.

Until the Citizens of a country change their Government from INSIDE, there will be no permanent solution.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:30 AM (NgKpN)

140 And hey.. who is Kris?

I'm imagining he is Ace's love child by some foxy ewokette.. learning the business from pop...



Kris is a 'ette what knows about art.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 20, 2019 11:30 AM (fuK7c)

141 135 Probably a minority opinion , maybe not, but I see Iran as a distraction to the Trump agenda, which is what I care about..... this is why the Iran thing has legs with the Media Complex.....

But holding mock"hearings" on reparations and re"investigative" hearings on the Russia thing isn't a distraction?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 11:30 AM (O2RFr)

142 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-says-peace-cross-war-memorial-can-stay

Posted by: nuclearjim at June 20, 2019 11:30 AM (gVRcP)

143 Bomb, bomb - Bomb, bomb Iran
------
Heh, just thought of that old parody too.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (W+kMI)


You're welcome, my friends.....

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at June 20, 2019 11:31 AM (9gDA7)

144 One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened. I like the idea of keeping them off balance and unable to point to American "provocation" and play the victim card.

This would be optimal. The Iranians are experts at using deniable means to attack its enemies - we should return the favor.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2019 11:31 AM (I2/tG)

145 Greetings:

Start with Qom.

Posted by: 11B40 at June 20, 2019 11:31 AM (evgyj)

146 Unleash the jews' weather machine on the mullahs. Three years of droughts, tornadoes, fire and brimstone, they'll start migrating to Europe and North America. That'll show....wait.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 11:31 AM (m79Dg)

147 NYTimes conspiracy theory:
Iran's Gambit: Force the World to Rein In Trump


She said Tehran had settled on a "two-prong strategy of showing that they, too, can apply pressure by being a pain but also saying, 'We're willing to talk.' "

And because Iran cannot defy American might on its own, it may be hoping to coerce European and Asian nations to rein in the United States.

The result, the experts say, is an Iranian strategy, rational but risky, that increases the likelihood of the nuclear agreement's collapse and even of outright war in the hopes of compelling the world to avert both.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 11:31 AM (QkjLD)

148 "... our Left/Statists and the Iranian Mullahs are so...in sync on this.
*cough*Kerry*cough*

and ChiDiFeinstein has decided to intervene as well, no doubt Barry/Jarrett too ... the shadow government and DeepState is alive and well.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 11:31 AM (Cus5s)

149 Surely the military assets we have in place in the Gulf know where the missile originated from.
==
except if it was manpad.

Looking at you Hillary

Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (3PMqH)

I wouldn't think a manpad has that kind of range. well, depending on who's deciding what international boundaries means.

is it the 3 mile version, 12 mile version, or some other standard? that's the one question I haven't heard answered yet.

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (8D42x)

150
Apparently some pigs brought into Canada years ago have gone native.

Revenge of the back bacon, eh?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (aKsyK)

151 The Iranian Navy couldn't close the Straights for 45min.

Posted by: Jean at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (25Dt7)

152 But Iran is a bully, and bullies only understand one thing. If we have to go full on, then tell the Joint Chiefs to go full on. No holds barred, no ROE. Do the job, and bring everyone home.

I would agree with this if this was the first provocative act Iran has taken and not the 300th. The idea of proportional response does not seem to have the desired effect on Iran.

I'd like to see a more muscular response that says "Try that shit one more time and we will end you and then go have a beer.".
Posted by: JackStraw


Welcome to the dark side. It's been lonely over here.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (sRczR)

153 I just think the l'affaire d'Iran is one of a plethora of distractions......

Posted by: kraken at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (QWnPe)

154 This idea that a Government can be totally divorced from its people is false.



Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:30 AM (NgKpN)


Exactly. We didn't waste time trying to separate the Nazis from the average German on the street - our B-24s made no distinction. And for good reason.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (GEo5Y)

155 The problem with covert action is that it won't remain covert for a day. The Democrats will leak their briefings.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (qiqGr)

156 NYTimes conspiracy theory:
Iran's Gambit: Force the World to Rein In Trump


???
I thought that was the democratic Gambit?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (V+Su2)

157 Surely the military assets we have in place in the Gulf know where the missile originated from.

The Israeli response would be to take out the SAM site that fired the missile, and refuse to confirm or deny that Israel had done it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (I2/tG)

158 And hey.. who is Kris?

I'm imagining he is Ace's love child by some foxy ewokette.. learning the business from pop...

Kris is a 'ette what knows about art.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 20, 2019 11:30 AM (fuK7c)

That doesn't mean she can't be half Ewok.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (m79Dg)

159 147 NYTimes conspiracy theory:
Iran's Gambit: Force the World to Rein In Trump


You had me a NYtimes...good luck to the "world" trying to rein in Trump...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (O2RFr)

160 124 Whenever I go to the South I eat and drink quite well, enjoy the graciousness and friendliness of the typical Southerner, and absolutely love the architecture and respect for tradition and history.

I agree... Never met nicer people then I have in the South...
=====
Southern people in general are polite, upbeat, generous, and know more about teh USA than most other regions.

Deliverance was a heart-of-darkness fable about a quartet of big-city guys who go off to play in a "wetlands area" that the dislocated locals resent, and resent the intrusive and judgmental outsiders who treat their homeland like their playground. (Love you Burt, but your character was a jerk.) How it turned into an indictment of an entire region, especially during the mainstreaming of country iving in the Seventies, is beyond me.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (W+kMI)

161 Interestingly, I've received a note from a Canuck buddy of mine. Apparently some pigs brought into Canada years ago have gone native. The populations now measures into the hundreds of thousands of now feral pigs roaming about the central Provinces and threatening to spill over into the US. I'm thinking Pig Roundup and airdrop over Tehran.
Posted by: Diogenes

..........

They are already a problem in the US.

Go to youtube and search for feral pig hunt..

These pigs are wreaking havoc on farms all over the country..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (so+oy)

162 Methinks Iran might be also taking advantage of the fact that we seem to have had a revolving door at the head of the pentagon since Mad Dog left the post.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (kI/3T)

163 except if it was manpad.

Manpads can't get something at that altitude.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (Boy/L)

164 I have to believe one Los Angeles class sub could take care of business with Iran.

I suggest sending in 5.

No such thing as overkill.

Posted by: blake - used vacation salesman at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (IlV2p)

165 Surely the military assets we have in place in the Gulf know where the missile originated from.

The Israeli response would be to take out the SAM site that fired the missile, and refuse to confirm or deny that Israel had done it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (I2/tG)


I suspect it was a mobile SAM

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:34 AM (V+Su2)

166 Unleash the jews' weather machine on the mullahs. Three years of droughts, tornadoes, fire and brimstone, they'll start migrating to Europe and North America. That'll show....wait.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male


Unleash Moses. Boils, plagues, etc. Fuck 'em up but good.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:34 AM (sRczR)

167 FBN reporting: Bolton to Israel next week to meet w/ Netanyahu.

Posted by: Tami at June 20, 2019 11:34 AM (cF8AT)

168 Iran's Gambit: Force the World to Rein In Trump

I don't even know WTF that is supposed to be.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 11:34 AM (Boy/L)

169 Interestingly, I've received a note from a Canuck buddy of mine. Apparently some pigs brought into Canada years ago have gone native.

They listen to Nickelback and apologize for waiting in line at the trough?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 20, 2019 11:34 AM (eytER)

170 I'd say: take out their oil refinery, and Revolutionary Guard bases with tactical nukes or conventional bombing. Use cruise missiles to take out the homes of as many mullahs and ayatollahs as you can find. Leave the regular military mostly alone, and let the generals know, via back channels, that if they depose the mullahs and set up a regular military dictatorship that is somewhat friendly to the USA, good things will happen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2019 11:34 AM (WG6O9)

171 NYTimes conspiracy theory:
Iran's Gambit: Force the World to Rein In Trump

???
I thought that was the democratic Gambit?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (V+Su2)
+++++++++
Uuuuuuh. What? Is the NYT really interpreting this as a call for a grand international alliance centered around *Iran* to go after the US? Seriously? Do they really not dig where such an outcome would lead?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:34 AM (I2dne)

172 All the shiteaters in the MSM have decided the paste eater needs to go.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 20, 2019 11:34 AM (dYFni)

173 Now the rabid lefties say Ivanka violated the Hatch Act

http://tinyurl.com/y4pcpzwl

They NEVER give up...

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 11:35 AM (KvRqW)

174 150


Apparently some pigs brought into Canada years ago have gone native.



*
*
. . .
So, the pigs will be at courtside during hockey games?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:35 AM (ClOmq)

175 I wouldn't think a manpad has that kind of range. well, depending on who's deciding what international boundaries means.

A manpad can't get to the altitude that Global Hawks fly at.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2019 11:35 AM (I2/tG)

176 If the drone was over Iranian territory, which is what the Mullahs claim (and I don't believe),

I'd guess it was but they didn't manage to detect it, lock it up, fire and hit with an AA missile that goes that high til it was back over the Strait.

Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2019 11:35 AM (FhXTo)

177 BTW, recall much frothing about the train derailment and "spill" yesterday...

Vegetable oil and aluminum oxide.

OMG, we're all gonna die...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 11:35 AM (6qErC)

178 I honestly do not care. The Iran confrontation lately seems more like it'll put the President in a lose-lose situation than achieve anything of value. I guess I'd be ok with increased sanctions or industrial sabotage or blowing up a munitions depot somewhere, but killing Iranians over drones in the Hormuz is not what I had in mind when I voted for America First.

Posted by: fightwinger at June 20, 2019 11:35 AM (AMKhy)

179 The left want Trump to rush into some sort of retaliation against Iran which they can then use as a basis for impeachment is my guess. It would not surprise me if they are working hand in glove with the mullahs.

Posted by: IC at June 20, 2019 11:36 AM (a0IVu)

180 What I wanna' know is, when the drone got shot down, did the guy behind the joystick spill his Mountain Dew or waste any Cheetos ?

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:36 AM (GEo5Y)

181 The Solicitor Generals filing at SCOTUS for the NY STATE RIFLE & PISTOL V. NEW YORK, NY case in October is very narrow. IT mostly talks about the right to "bear" arms in the context of transporting the weapon to a range or gunsmith. It only nibbles around the edge of their near complete ban on carrying outside the home, which is something the lower courts have completely trampled on by abusing Heller.

I would have expected a better filing from the Solicitor General. Especially given the narrow and ridiculous way this SCOTUS rules. Yea, the Second Amendment means we can take our guns to the range and gunsmith. Thanks for nothing.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 11:36 AM (VpIIl)

182 Arrest him and throw him in Gitmo just for shits and giggles.
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In all seriousness, he should be detained for a lengthy, and for national security reasons, lawyer free interrogation. I know we couldn't use anything he said at a subsequent trial, because no lawyer, but who cares. I think we should find out where he's been and who he's been talking to for the last couple of months.

Peel his phone and computers.

Then let him go and let him howl and moan about how he was mistreated. Will focus the attention of the other swamp creatures.

We are at war with Iran and he is cozying up to them, not like he has a history of doing this or anything . . .

Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:36 AM (sYwhE)

183 Shouldn't it be called a personpad?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:36 AM (PxX58)

184 They are already a problem in the US.

Go to youtube and search for feral pig hunt..

These pigs are wreaking havoc on farms all over the country..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM
*****

His note suggested they are already swarming across the border but didn't have a lot of details.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (axyOa)

185 John Kerry needs to swing from a lanyard. Damn slimeball traitor. I imagine he spurred this with intentions of drawing the US into a shooting war w/ Iran before the 2020 elections.

Behind the news, we should encourage Mossad to start dropping mullahs. Maybe sink the boat that planted the bombs, or get the Japanese to do it. Start destroying Iranian assets in Syria. Funding for Iranian dissidents.
On the front pages, we should be enforcing more sanctions against Iran.

Posted by: MaDuece at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (0dmP2)

186 Can we stage a false flag attack at my work? Would save me the trouble of quitting.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (0PDHs)

187 My coaching might pay dividends.

Posted by: Horse face Kerry at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (dYFni)

188 Whatever the case may be vis a vis Iran, we stand alone in regards to " dealing with Iran"... maybe Israel can help in a limited way.... once again.

Posted by: kraken at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (QWnPe)

189 except if it was manpad.

Looking at you Hillary

Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (3PMqH)

I wouldn't think a manpad has that kind of range. well, depending on who's deciding what international boundaries means.

is it the 3 mile version, 12 mile version, or some other standard? that's the one question I haven't heard answered yet.
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 11:32 AM (8D42x)

Iranians say they own their half of the Straights.

US says its international waters.

Been arguing about it forever.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (NgKpN)

190 Holy crap, I found it on Youtube. Don't let them know, it might disappear.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZwDL3-Ze4w

Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (W+kMI)

191 did the guy behind the joystick spill his Mountain Dew or waste any Cheetos ?"

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (6qErC)

192 One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened. I like the idea of keeping them off balance and unable to point to American "provocation" and play the victim card.
.
I say we kick 'em right straight in the cock . .
.

Posted by: FireNWater at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (S4rpa)

193 The result, the experts say, is an Iranian strategy, rational but risky, that increases the likelihood of the nuclear agreement's collapse and even of outright war in the hopes of compelling the world to avert both.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 11:31 AM (QkjLD)

It may be rational, but it grossly overestimates the "leverage" that anyone in Europe of Asia has over Trump. If they had "leverage", we'd still be part of that ridiculous Paris Accord.

And also, if this is their strategy, it greatly underestimates the ability of the Trump administration to cause Iran pain. Real pain.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (Kpl3J)

194 175
I wouldn't think a manpad has that kind of range. well, depending on who's deciding what international boundaries means.


A manpad can't get to the altitude that Global Hawks fly at.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 20, 2019

*
*
. . .
I keep thinking a "manpad" is some kind of glossy 1960s apartment that guys aspire to in order to get chicks. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (ClOmq)

195 160
124 Whenever I go to the South I eat and drink quite well, enjoy the
graciousness and friendliness of the typical Southerner, and absolutely
love the architecture and respect for tradition and history.



I agree... Never met nicer people then I have in the South...

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Southern people in general are polite, upbeat, generous, and know more about teh USA than most other regions.



Deliverance was a heart-of-darkness fable about a quartet of
big-city guys who go off to play in a "wetlands area" that the
dislocated locals resent, and resent the intrusive and judgmental
outsiders who treat their homeland like their playground. (Love you
Burt, but your character was a jerk.) How it turned into an indictment
of an entire region, especially during the mainstreaming of country
iving in the Seventies, is beyond me.





Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:33 AM (W+kMI)
Here all along I thought it was a love story.

Posted by: Shep Smith at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (N39Ws)

196 Now the rabid lefties say Ivanka violated the Hatch Act

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The CREW crew are just hoping to get her into a hearing room, so they can ask for her autograph.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (LISuA)

197 Is there an 8 Mile version thats payload is moms spaghetti?

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (0PDHs)

198 My coaching might pay dividends.
Posted by: Horse face Kerry"

Neigh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (6qErC)

199 His note suggested they are already swarming across the border but didn't have a lot of details.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (axyOa)


I'm betting on San Fransisco as first to declare itself a Feral Pig Sanctuary City.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (GEo5Y)

200
Iran is clearly testing the resolve of the current administration, and hoping that internal political pressure will force President Trump to moderate the sanctions because of the threat of war.



Which is coincidentally the same thing John Kerry is advising them to do.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (TAmPV)

201 killing Iranians over drones in the Hormuz is not what I had in mind when I voted for America First.



I voted for Trump, and the hope that he would piss on Iran.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (qiqGr)

202 No announcement, No claim of responsibility, no nothing. Things just go boom in the night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:39 AM (V+Su2)

203 Apparently some pigs brought into Canada years ago have gone native.

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fun fact, domestic pigs let loose in the wild will always go feral if they survive a winter. Will grow hugely and become aggressive, tusks, the whole nine yards.

Pigcopolyse Now.

Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:39 AM (3PMqH)

204 Here all along I thought it was a love story."

Squeal, squeal like a pig...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 11:39 AM (6qErC)

205
I'm betting on San Fransisco as first to declare itself a Feral Pig Sanctuary City.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:38 AM (GEo5Y)
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I think SF did that long ago.....

Posted by: blake - used vacation salesman at June 20, 2019 11:39 AM (IlV2p)

206
US says its international waters.



Been arguing about it forever.



Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (NgKpN)
Remember the good old days when Kaddhafi argued with Ronald Regan about who owned the Gulf of Sidra.
Good times good times.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:39 AM (37IEG)

207 188 Whatever the case may be vis a vis Iran, we stand alone in regards to " dealing with Iran"... maybe Israel can help in a limited way.... once again.
Posted by: kraken at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (QWnPe)

Iran backed Rebels just shot a Missile into Saudi Arabia, directly attacking it.

Syria has told Iran to leave, and Russia is backing Assad on this.

Russia has not said squat about Israel going in and bombing the crap out of Iranian assets inside of Syria.

I don't think we are as alone as some think.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (NgKpN)

208 Iranians say they own their half of the Straights.

US says its international waters.

Been arguing about it forever.


Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM


****

Biggest ship wins.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (axyOa)

209 Feral pigs>>>Nickelback

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (tH5fk)

210 In causing the fall of a Regime, the goal would be to do what Germany was able to do to Russia in 1916-1917. Destroy enough military assets and cause enough trouble and pain that the government dissolved into chaos and revolution.

Of course the long term effects of that weren't quite what the Germans had envisioned.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (Kpl3J)

211 I say start sending in covert agents and start kidnapping all the hot Iranian women and bringing them to the US. Without hot women, any country will fall.

Posted by: Sooner at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (Fs5vw)

212 Gulf of Sidra?

Is it real and spectacular?

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (0PDHs)

213 except if it was manpad.
...
Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (3PMqH)
+++++++++++++++
Isn't that some new Kotex product for "'men' who have periods, too?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (I2dne)

214 Joe Biden was VP for eight years.

And not one peep about this racial stuff. Curious, right?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (Boy/L)

215 it's not 'water-boarding' if you use diesel..."

That's terrible - and funny.

For pride month switch to a bucket of Astro-lube.

Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (FhXTo)

216 we stand alone in regards to " dealing with Iran

I doubt it

I don't think we are as alone as some think.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (NgKp


Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (V+Su2)

217 213 except if it was manpad.
...
Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:29 AM (3PMqH)
+++++++++++++++
Isn't that some new Kotex product for "'men' who have periods, too?"

I wondered how long it was gonna take for that

Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (O2RFr)

218 180
What I wanna' know is, when the drone got shot down, did the guy behind
the joystick spill his Mountain Dew or waste any Cheetos ?


Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:36 AM (GEo5Y)
Heard he had to go change his underwear and get a new chair.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (N39Ws)

219 For the love of titwanking, does no one on television know how to pronounce "Xi Jinping"?

I mean, just look it up if you don't know, for feck's sake.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (AURKQ)

220 Remember the good old days when Kaddhafi argued with Ronald Regan about who owned the Gulf of Sidra.
Good times good times.




The Line of Death(tm)

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (qiqGr)

221 206
US says its international waters.

Been arguing about it forever.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:37 AM (NgKpN)

It's a drone. It flys with the help of GPS. Pinpointing its location should not be a problem.

Posted by: WisRich at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (G0vdT)

222 I saw Feral Pigs open for Government Mule in '94.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (Boy/L)

223 I wondered how long it was gonna take for that
Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (O2RFr)
++++++++++
I live to serve, Donna.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (I2dne)

224 They were attacked with a manipedi. It's tough to steer a tanker with 4 foot long lee press on nails.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (0PDHs)

225 185 John Kerry needs to swing from a lanyard. Damn slimeball traitor. I imagine he spurred this with intentions of drawing the US into a shooting war w/ Iran before the 2020 elections.
______________

John Kerry has been a traitorous turd since 1971. Actually, he was probably a traitorous turd years before that, he just made his first public declaration of his turdship in that year.

A-hole should be slinging slop in some PMITA federal prison.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (k4dH2)

226 I don't think we are as alone as some think.
Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (NgKpN)


Trump should cut a deal with Putin - divide Iran and it's oil right down the middle.

Win 1 - No more Iran.

Win 2 - Democrat heads explode in a mass event not seen since Scanners.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (GEo5Y)

227 the progressive dems (Kerry) are using 'their" client state to attempt chaos here.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (r/xAU)

228 209 Feral pigs>>>Nickelback

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (tH5fk)

I've been told that if you play a Nickelback recording backwards, you will hear the Devil speaking. On the other hand, if you play it forwards you hear Nickelback, so it's a wash.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)

229 We'll kill one civilian, rebuild all their infrastructure, give them a trillion dollars and outfit them with the latest weaponry then we'll make them swearsies to be our friend and that's all that will happen. Modern day war. This will take 25 years.

Posted by: NCKate at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (cWedi)

230
Posted by: Sooner at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (Fs5vw)

212
Gulf of Sidra?



Is it real and spectacular?

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM (0PDHs)
It was for a little while - for Libya anyway. It was good for business though, the Russians got to sell them some more aircraft.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (37IEG)

231 Or we could play the long game and arm the Kurds. And send them in to do the heavy lifting while we just sit back and pound on Iran from above.
We create and independent Kurdistan out of parts of Iran, Iraq, and Syria. The Kurds provide the men and we give them the equipment.
We don't get into Nation building the Kurds can do that themselves.
We get the benefit of taking out Iran and we get to put Turkey on notice and we create another pro American nation that actually likes us in the middle east.

Posted by: Southdakotaconservative at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (syPRf)

232 I've been told that if you play a Nickelback recording backwards, you will hear the Devil speaking. On the other hand, if you play it forwards you hear Nickelback, so it's a wash.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)
++++++++++++
Don't be so hard on Nickleback. They have that one song that works well. You know, the one they keep remaking?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (I2dne)

233 I don't think we are as alone as some think.

Let's ask Bebe.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (Boy/L)

234 His note suggested they are already swarming across the border but didn't have a lot of details.

Posted by: Diogenes
........

This may be a different breed, perhaps.. but feral hogs have been a huge problem as far south as Texas for years.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (so+oy)

235 ""One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't
know for sure what happened. I like the idea of keeping them off balance
and unable to point to American "provocation" and play the victim card.""




Yup, make them fear their own shadow.



Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (9Om/r)

236 blocking Hormuz doesn't hurt us; it hurts Putin and Emperor Xi. if Iran provokes a fight, they are stupid.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (14Ghu)

237 Two weeks ago John Kerry was seen in Paris talking with Iranian officials. I truly believe he was arranging these provocations with them, in order to open a new front in the Democrat war against Trump.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (cApiC)

238 Pigcopolyse Now.
Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:39 AM (3PMqH)

Aporkalypse?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (AURKQ)

239 I don't think we are as alone as some think.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:40 AM

***

Concur. Iran doesn't have a lot of friends. The missile defense systems that Obama nixed for Central Europe was designed to counter Iranian missiles, not Russian. The Persians are not liked.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (axyOa)

240 We create and independent Kurdistan out of parts of Iran, Iraq, and Syria.


Don't forget their piece of Turkey.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM (qiqGr)

241 how to pronounce "Xi Jinping"?

"Fish"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM (6qErC)

242 Two weeks ago John Kerry was seen in Paris talking with Iranian officials. I truly believe he was arranging these provocations with them, in order to open a new front in the Democrat war against Trump.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (cApiC)


This is treason and a guilty verdict leads to death.

I'm just wishcasting here, I know, but.....

Posted by: Sponge at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM (9gDA7)

243 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM (XLmkx)

244 Would the Kurds get the white meat or the dark meat?

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM (0PDHs)

245
The Chinese take essentially all the oil from the single refinery. Impacting that would produce a significant disturbance in the Chinese. Maybe worth it, maybe not.

Oil tankers headed to China could be allowed to pass the Gays of H, all other traffic turned back. All headed in also.

Iran has, IIRC and may not be, about a dozen electrical generation/distribution nodes. Impacting those would condemn the general populace to Iraq level black and brown outs for years. Maybe worth it, maybe not.

Iran has several major access points into Astan where a lot of Tango traffic and support flows. Obvious targets. Ditto Syrian border.

Iran has one real problem nuke facility, buried deeply but with only so many surface access points, and a few surface support institutions elsewhere. Bbbbbyby.

Obvious risk: Iran says "I just got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, so fuck it" and unloads on Israel, cause nothing to lose.

Posted by: General Specific at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (UFLLM)

246 We'll kill one civilian, rebuild all their infrastructure, give them a trillion dollars and outfit them with the latest weaponry then we'll make them swearsies to be our friend and that's all that will happen. Modern day war. This will take 25 years.
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The Mullahs watched the movie "the mouse that roared" and took it seriously.

Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (sYwhE)

247
It's a drone. It flys with the help of GPS. Pinpointing its location should not be a problem.

Posted by: WisRich at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (G0vdT)
Right, GPS, just like the ones we had on those Navy Riverine boats when the Islamic guard convinced Obama they needed some pallets of cash

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (37IEG)

248 feral hogs have been a huge problem as far south as Texas for years."

"Problem"?

nah. Delicious opportunity.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (6qErC)

249 I see Oberlin's President is still in denial that they did anything wrong. If Amber isn't careful she's going to suffocate her 'Free Speech' support doll.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (eR65l)

250 blocking Hormuz doesn't hurt us; it hurts Putin and Emperor Xi. if Iran provokes a fight, they are stupid.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (14Ghu)
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Sort of. Not so long ago it would have *really* hurt us. Thank G-d,hard-working oilmen and Trump for energy independence.

But the high seas belong to the United States. Trade happens smoothly and piracy is low because of our absolute dominance of the seas. If they close Hormuz, we might have to respond so everyone else doesn't get uppity about it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (I2dne)

251 >>blocking Hormuz doesn't hurt us; it hurts Putin and Emperor Xi. if Iran provokes a fight, they are stupid.

It's about 25% if the world's oil supply. It might not hurt as badly but it would indeed hurt us.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (PxX58)

252 Iran has "no intention of going to war" then shoots down our drone in international airspace and snickers?

They need a giant dick-punch. WTF, Trump?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (VpIIl)

253
It's a drone. It flys with the help of GPS. Pinpointing its location should not be a problem.
Posted by: WisRich at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (G0vdT)

I guarantee there was an Aegis Cruiser or Destroyer in the Straights. There ALWAYS is.

It would have the entire incident including missile launch tracked.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (NgKpN)

254 Would the Kurds get the white meat or the dark meat?

The Peshmerga take whatever piece they want.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (qiqGr)

255 Two weeks ago John Kerry was seen in Paris talking with Iranian officials. I truly believe he was arranging these provocations with them, in order to open a new front in the Democrat war against Trump.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (cApiC)



Maybe we can get Nadless or Schiffforbrains to look into Lurch colluding with a foreign government. I mean they are all against that, right?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 20, 2019 11:46 AM (OLCnA)

256 This is treason and a guilty verdict leads to death.



Posted by: Sponge at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM (9gDA7)


PETA would object - we don't just go around slaughtering horses anymore. And the anguish of Sarah Jessica Parker would simply be too much to bear.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:46 AM (GEo5Y)

257 We'll kill one civilian, rebuild all their infrastructure, give them a trillion dollars and outfit them with the latest weaponry then we'll make them swearsies to be our friend and that's all that will happen. Modern day war. This will take 25 years.
Posted by: NCKate at June 20, 2019 11:42 AM (cWedi)

Who told you?--John "Swift Boat" Kerry.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (m79Dg)

258 The Mullahs want the 12th Iman to climb out of his well, destroy the world, and start paradise on Earth.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (eR65l)

259 This may be a different breed, perhaps.. but feral hogs have been a huge problem as far south as Texas for years.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (so+oy)

A local hunter shot one that weighed 600 pounds not long ago, right around here. Those things don't give a damn about people or dogs or anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (Kpl3J)

260
Iran doesn't have the cash to go to war with the U.S.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (TAmPV)

261 Obvious risk: Iran says "I just got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, so fuck it" and unloads on Israel, cause nothing to lose.



Posted by: General Specific at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (UFLLM)

They do not have the where with all to inflict that much pain or damage on Israel. And they would risk much by trying and or letting hezbbela or hamas loose. THAT would be crossing a line and even Netanyahu would have to respond with devastating force

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (V+Su2)

262 NYTimes conspiracy theory:
Iran's Gambit: Force the World to Rein In Trump
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Well that's it folks. If this is what the NYT really thinks. John Fuckin Kerry is behind it.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (NFEMn)

263 good morning everyone!
Posted by: IC

Hiya IC !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (XLmkx)

264 Acorn fed hog is good eats.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (qiqGr)

265 Sort of. Not so long ago it would have *really* hurt us. Thank G-d,hard-working oilmen and Trump for energy independence.



But the high seas belong to the United States. Trade happens
smoothly and piracy is low because of our absolute dominance of the
seas. If they close Hormuz, we might have to respond so everyone else
doesn't get uppity about it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (I2dne)
That's why New York is banning fracking, because...let the dirty fly over states provide the fossil fuels that keep their oh so correct cities lit up.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (37IEG)

266 258
The Mullahs want the 12th Iman to climb out of his well, destroy the world, and start paradise on Earth.


Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (eR65l)
Didn't we have something like that in 2016? Trump climbs out of the basement of polls, takes out all his challengers. Destroys the DNC and Hillary and started paradise in the USA?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (N39Ws)

267 Two weeks ago John Kerry was seen in Paris talking with Iranian officials. I truly believe he was arranging these provocations with them, in order to open a new front in the Democrat war against Trump.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (cApiC)

This is treason and a guilty verdict leads to death.

I'm just wishcasting here, I know, but.....
Posted by: Sponge at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM (9gDA7)


Treason only applies if Congress declared war.
It's in the Constitution.

Look it up.

Posted by: Rosie Odonel at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (1g7ch)

268 Well, this is something I've never heard of, railbiking.

https://youtu.be/viSJsOUCGu4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (+y/Ru)

269
Posted by: Diogenes
........

Apparently this is different.. It says the feral hog problem here has pretty much been in southern states..

This new invasion from Canada is a concern for northern states.

............

http://tinyurl.com/yynk6q6n

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (so+oy)

270 Two weeks ago John Kerry was seen in Paris talking with Iranian officials. I truly believe he was arranging these provocations with them, in order to open a new front in the Democrat war against Trump.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (cApiC)

This is treason and a guilty verdict leads to death.

I'm just wishcasting here, I know, but.....

Posted by: Sponge at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM

****

PDT needs to slip the French a sweet deal on something and get copies of the tapes. DGSE has them, count on it.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (axyOa)

271 Warai-otoko #219:
For the love of titwanking, does no one on television know how to pronounce "Xi Jinping"?
I mean, just look it up if you don't know, for feck's sake.


When I was a college radio DJ in the early '❚0s, the UPI teletype would regularly spit out pronunciation guides for all people and places in the news, national and local. Very handy for me, especially as an Oklahoman struggling with Wisconsin place names.

Do you suppose the current journ-o-listzers even have such a resource, much less use them?

Oh, and.. .good morning. Running late today, I am. In before the Boss, anyway. I missed my cool sunrise walk; it's uhhgh hot.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids blog at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (/IMJl)

272 264
Acorn fed hog is good eats.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (qiqGr)
On my bucket list is to go feral hog hunting and come home with some nice bacon and back strap.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (N39Ws)

273 251 >>blocking Hormuz doesn't hurt us; it hurts Putin and Emperor Xi. if Iran provokes a fight, they are stupid.

It's about 25% if the world's oil supply. It might not hurt as badly but it would indeed hurt us.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (PxX5

Would not hurt Putin in the least. Driving up oil prices would HELP his economy, and drive the EU more towards completing the Russia to Germany pipeline.

75% of the Mid East oil goes to Asia.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (NgKpN)

274 Treason only applies if Congress declared war.
It's in the Constitution.



Meh. Go with espionage then.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (qiqGr)

275 Kris is a 'ette what knows about art.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

A very nice lady.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 11:49 AM (XLmkx)

276 248
feral hogs have been a huge problem as far south as Texas for years."


"Problem"?


nah. Delicious opportunity.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019

*
*
. . .
*shlack-shlack*
Bang! [thump]
"Mmmm. Thass a big 'un, Calvin."
"Ah know. Go'n get yer truck, will ya?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:49 AM (ClOmq)

277 It can be done and there will be costs - dead men, disrupted trade, expenditure of treasure, etc. - but those costs will re-establish a semblance of order. Unless it all goes pear-shaped and we end up in a regional or global mega-war.

Of course, losing deterrence will often have that outcome, too. See Europe, ca. 1936-1945.

Losing deterrence puts you in a high-risk situation, and we lost deterrence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


Everyone who thinks China wouldn't intervene to preserve its interests, raise your hand...

Sometimes, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 11:49 AM (AM1GF)

278 So, the pigs will be at courtside during hockey games?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:35 AM (ClOmq)

Right after they start wearing flannel, drinking beer, and saying "Eh".

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 11:49 AM (m79Dg)

279 That's why New York is banning fracking, because...let the dirty fly over states provide the fossil fuels that keep their oh so correct cities lit up.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (37IEG)
+++++++++++
Our great cities should remember that it takes a continent to feed and power them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:49 AM (I2dne)

280 Lots of creative ways to apply pressure without war.

Isolated Quds forces in Yemen are low hanging fruit, but that would need good OPSEC.

I will just note that the Iranian electrical generation industry is concentrated, has a high load factor, and is quite vulnerable in a variety of ways. A country without power is mission-killed.

Be a shame if something accidentally happened. Like in Argentina and Uruguay.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 11:49 AM (u82oZ)

281 This new invasion from Canada is a concern for northern states.



Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (so+oy)


We should consult Gov. Cuomo. I wonder if he needs more than seven shots to kill a feral hog.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (GEo5Y)

282 Treason only applies if Congress declared war.
It's in the Constitution.

Look it up.
Posted by: Rosie Odonel


Says no such thing.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (sRczR)

283 Corn fed/sugar cured hog is good eats.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (qiqGr)

Now yer talkin'.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (ykq7q)

284 Kerry vs Logan Act. Pretty straight forward.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (37IEG)

285 Small things have a tendency to become big things.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Heh. That's what SHE said!

Posted by: Michael Scott! at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (vcOmj)

286 Blocking Hormuz is part of a greater effort to attack U.S. interests. Iran is already actively involved in aiding and abetting anti U.S. efforts on just about every battlefield. They've been helping kill our men for a long time and the last weak-ass, effeminate president rewarded them for it.

Trumps' excuse that he "doesn't want war" seems to be winning out over doing the right thing and sending these people a message to knock it off or really get their ass kicked. In fact to me he's starting to sound like he's full of shit, kinda like Mr Red Line from the last administration.

I don't think anyone wants war, but nobody wants to stand around while these assholes inconsequentially doink the bear in the ass. They need a little bit of the right hammering.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (VpIIl)

287 This may be a different breed, perhaps.. but feral hogs have been a huge problem as far south as Texas for years.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (so+oy)

A local hunter shot one that weighed 600 pounds not long ago, right around here. Those things don't give a damn about people or dogs or anything.
=========
I'm serious you guyz about the pig-drop.

A couple dozen breeding pairs, 12 months, Voila, your country is unclean. What's a mooslim to do?

Posted by: Gen'l Mayhem at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (r0eYw)

288 Corn fed/sugar cured hog is good eats.


Yeah, but the farmer doesn't like you shooting his stock.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (qiqGr)

289 Reading Alito's opinion in the Cross case. He's basically arguing Chesterton's Fence.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at June 20, 2019 11:50 AM (eq2Ql)

290 279 That's why New York is banning fracking, because...let the dirty fly over states provide the fossil fuels that keep their oh so correct cities lit up.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (37IEG)
+++++++++++
Our great cities should remember that it takes a continent to feed and power them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:49 AM (I2dne)

I drink your milkshake.

Posted by: Best Virginia at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (AURKQ)

291 That's why New York is banning fracking, because...let the dirty fly over states provide the fossil fuels that keep their oh so correct cities lit up.
Posted by: DamnedYankee


You can't afford our fracked oil.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (sRczR)

292 266 258
The Mullahs want the 12th Iman to climb out of his well, destroy the world, and start paradise on Earth.


Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (eR65l)
Didn't we have something like that in 2016? Trump climbs out of the basement of polls, takes out all his challengers. Destroys the DNC and Hillary and started paradise in the USA?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
_______

Naaaaa. Doesn't the 12th Imam refer to Texas A&M football fans?

Posted by: Furious George at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (9vQJW)

293 Lots of creative ways to apply pressure without war.

NOBODY ( well except democrats) is even mentioning the word war. But a retaliation and deterrences is not war, just smart diplomacy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (V+Su2)

294 just fyi about Iranian surface to air missile systems; if they're Russian built, and I believe they are, then they're mounted on trucks and they shoot n' scoot into a hidden location quickly. So, pinpointing where the shot came from isn't going to do us any good, it's just going to be a dirt field. (or more likely a hospital parking lot, or an elementary school)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (Kpl3J)

295 There are reports the MQ-4 "Global Hawk" drone was downed by an Iranian built copy of Russia's SA-11 Buk mobile anti-air system. Mid-to-high altitude reach. 60K ft (the max ceiling of MQ-4's) could, in theory, be reached by the SA-11 if the drone was at that altitude.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (PlceE)

296 Trump will respond, but not like Obama would have.

TFG would have responded by starting to call it the "Gays of Hormuz", and think that would be effective.

Posted by: Roy at June 20, 2019 11:52 AM (40mSG)

297 283
Corn fed/sugar cured hog is good eats.


Also distills down to bacon flavored whiskey.

Posted by: General Specific at June 20, 2019 11:52 AM (UFLLM)

298 just fyi about Iranian surface to air missile systems; if they're Russian built, and I believe they are, then they're mounted on trucks and they shoot n' scoot into a hidden location quickly. So, pinpointing where the shot came from isn't going to do us any good, it's just going to be a dirt field. (or more likely a hospital parking lot, or an elementary school)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (Kpl3J)


exactly

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:52 AM (V+Su2)

299 Iran's forces are JV.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at June 20, 2019 11:52 AM (qiqGr)

300 The Mullahs want the 12th Iman to climb out of his well, destroy the world, and start paradise on Earth.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 11:47 AM (eR65l)

And remember, kids. For each infidel you blow up, you'll be accorded a reward in paradise. Go ahead, I'm going to stay here and make sure everything goes according to plan.--67 year old Imam with hands on some honey's ass.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 11:52 AM (m79Dg)

301 Yup, make them fear their own shadow.


Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they learn why they fear the night.

Posted by: Thulsa Doom at June 20, 2019 11:53 AM (fuK7c)

302 The Straits of Sexworkermuz

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 11:53 AM (AURKQ)

303 Also distills down to bacon flavored whiskey.
Posted by: General Specific at June 20, 2019 11:52 AM (UFLLM)

Do you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Roy at June 20, 2019 11:53 AM (40mSG)

304 So, pinpointing where the shot came from isn't going to do us any good


You don't have to get the exact same launcher to send the message. In fact, a random choice sends a better message.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:53 AM (qiqGr)

305 But if the 12th Imam comes out and sees his shadow, then there's going to be 6 more centuries of Sunni's in charge of Mecca.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:53 AM (Kpl3J)

306 279 That's why New York is banning fracking, because...let the dirty fly over states provide the fossil fuels that keep their oh so correct cities lit up.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:48 AM (37IEG)
+++++++++++
Our great cities should remember that it takes a continent to feed and power them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
________

When I was a young'n in the oil patch, two popular bumper stickers were "Drive 70 and Freeze a Yankee" and "Let the Bastards Freeze in the Dark".

Posted by: Furious George at June 20, 2019 11:54 AM (9vQJW)

307
Treason only applies if Congress declared war. It's in the Constitution.

It says whoever owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 20, 2019 11:54 AM (TAmPV)

308
I don't think anyone wants war, but nobody wants to stand around while these assholes inconsequentially doink the bear in the ass. They need a little bit of the right hammering.
=====
Remember that story about the irregular Russian forces that were advancing on and oil refinery in Syria like a year ago. The RUssians denied any knowleged of them multiple times over the deconfliction comm system. Finally went all the way up the chain of command and Mattis said wipe them out. Total wipe out with arty.

Trump will let the military kill em dead if its necessary. He just doesn't want to do it, unless the other side is really really really stupid and incapable of learning a lesson any other way. Which it appears they are.

Posted by: simplemind at June 20, 2019 11:54 AM (CwZUj)

309 Actually it would be pretty funny if Trump Admin charged Kerry with treason and expedited it with the full Manafort treatment... all the way to SCOTUS if need be.

/Constitutional definition of treason says nothing about declared war/

Do it just to seize Teresa's accounts.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 11:54 AM (1g7ch)

310 And remember, kids. For each infidel you blow up, you'll be accorded a reward in paradise. Go ahead, I'm going to stay here and make sure everything goes according to plan.--67 year old Imam with hands on some honey's ass.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 11:52 AM (m79Dg)

Time to start cranking out those plastic keys, again.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 11:54 AM (ykq7q)

311 Iran's forces are JV.
Posted by: Barry Soetoro


Was it Iran or Iraq's special forces that liked to dive through flaming hoops for practice?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:55 AM (sRczR)

312
You can't afford our fracked oil.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (sRczR)
Meeeester Cuomo! You gotta understand! That fracked oil causes all kinda dirty po-lution that just hasta be specially cleaned, but for you I'm gonna give you a special deal today only. The price per barrel, after factoring in the costs to git it, and process it, and then clean up all the global warmed ee-fects you're justifiably con-cerned over is a mere $200.00 per half barrel.

Posted by: Hank Haney Fracked Oil Company at June 20, 2019 11:55 AM (37IEG)

313 >>just fyi about Iranian surface to air missile systems; if they're Russian built, and I believe they are, then they're mounted on trucks and they shoot n' scoot into a hidden location quickly. So, pinpointing where the shot came from isn't going to do us any good, it's just going to be a dirt field. (or more likely a hospital parking lot, or an elementary school)

Before the ink on Obama's Iran deal was signed the Russians were in Iran completing a weapons deal that included S-300 ground to air missiles.

Thanks Obama!

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:55 AM (PxX58)

314 Pasty Joe chimes in:

NEW: In statement, @JoeBiden lashes out at @realDonaldTrump Iran strategy as "a self-inflicted disaster," and says pulling from diplomacy has "made military conflict more likely."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)

315 "just fyi about Iranian surface to air missile systems; if they're Russian built, and I believe they are, then they're mounted on trucks and they shoot n' scoot into a hidden location quickly. So, pinpointing where the shot came from isn't going to do us any good, it's just going to be a dirt field. (or more likely a hospital parking lot, or an elementary school)"

Not completely true and with things like the EA18G, satellites and the F 35's new Mission/EWC capabilities, there would be a whole lot of destruction. Plus, sooner or later you need to turn them on to be an effective deterrent.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 11:55 AM (VpIIl)

316 here is a feral hog population map ... dense in the south, not much up north. I'd think the frozen tundra would be a little hard on them ... none around me.


https://tinyurl.com/yx9hqcub

Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 11:56 AM (Cus5s)

317 Treason only applies if Congress declared war. It's in the Constitution.

It says whoever owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

Or, in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:56 AM (sRczR)

318 271 Warai-otoko #219:
For the love of titwanking, does no one on television know how to pronounce "Xi Jinping"?
I mean, just look it up if you don't know, for feck's sake.

When I was a college radio DJ in the early '80s, the UPI teletype would regularly spit out pronunciation guides for all people and places in the news, national and local. Very handy for me, especially as an Oklahoman struggling with Wisconsin place names.
=====
Very thoughtful, wish they could do that today, although there are more names that are harder to pronounce.

One of the funniest Bob and Tom "reality comedy" moments was Kristi Lee trying, and failing, to pronounce "Fukuyama" in a news story. By the time the show producer called in live I was past doing productive work and just laughing.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 11:56 AM (W+kMI)

319 Lots of creative ways to apply pressure without war.

NOBODY ( well except democrats) is even mentioning the word war. But a retaliation and deterrences is not war, just smart diplomacy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 11:51 AM (V+Su2)

Hey, Xerxes. You've got a really nice villa on the Caspian Sea here. Be a shame if something happened to it. Like having a hotel and golf course built over it.--DJT, real estate developer.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 11:57 AM (m79Dg)

320 The price per barrel, after factoring in the costs to git it, and process it, and then clean up all the global warmed ee-fects you're justifiably con-cerned over is a mere $200.00 per half barrel.
Posted by: Hank Haney Fracked Oil Company at June 20, 2019 11:55 AM (37IEG)

Well, it's not exactly a barrel, really. More like a canister. Well, less of a canister than a container.

Posted by: Mr. Kimball at June 20, 2019 11:57 AM (AURKQ)

321 The Mullahs want the 12th Iman to climb out of his well, destroy the world, and start paradise on Earth.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Dad, Lassie says that the Imam is coming out of the well out back!

Timmy, go get a wheelbarrow full of brick!. Were closing that MF'er up RIGHT NOW!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at June 20, 2019 11:57 AM (vcOmj)

322 Thanks to Barky for giving the mullahs pallets of cash and to Kerry for having their backs.

Disgusting beyond measure. How many loved ones have wept over the coffins of their slain sons and daughters who have died due to Iran's support of terror? One would be too many.

Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 11:57 AM (oiNtH)

323 We should fill the Iranian harbors with rusty failing ships filled with non-existing cargos of embargoed goods and scuttle them the most inconvenient locations in the shipping lanes.

Posted by: Downcast at June 20, 2019 11:57 AM (omjRG)

324 316
here is a feral hog population map ... dense in the south, not much up
north. I'd think the frozen tundra would be a little hard on them ...
none around me.


https://tinyurl.com/yx9hqcub

Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 11:56 AM (Cus5s)
Getting close to me in NH.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:57 AM (N39Ws)

325 NEW: In statement, @JoeBiden lashes out at @realDonaldTrump Iran strategy as "a self-inflicted disaster," and says pulling from diplomacy has "made military conflict more likely."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)


Creepy Uncle Joe says surrender to his sweet caress is always the best option.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (1g7ch)

326 Nevergiveup

Good morning, Sir.

It is war. Just not a legal, declared war. Warheads on foreheads is war.

What will Iran do if the Senate starts debating a declaration of war, to make everything legal?

Everything! We could distribute comely and built Iranian war brides to the lonely here on AoSHQ.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (u82oZ)

327 Drop Meth-Fueled Attack Squirrels on Tehran.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (qiqGr)

328 San Fran is banning smoking including vaping?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (SaxfT)

329 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (RD7QR)

330 Not completely true and with things like the EA18G, satellites and the F 35's new Mission/EWC capabilities, there would be a whole lot of destruction. Plus, sooner or later you need to turn them on to be an effective deterrent.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 11:55 AM (VpIIl)

Yup, its a distributed system with multiple sensor trucks, which must remain stationary for at least the duration of the flight.

The launch trucks themselves can scoot, but they are worthless without the Radar Trucks and command node.

So, yes, the Airdales would be playing Whack a Mole, if the target was the Anti Air systems.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (NgKpN)

331 not really in favor of spending a penny to attack Iran until our own fucking borders are secured

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (9SyfW)

332 One would be too many.

Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 11:57 AM (oiNtH)

I wouldn't mind it so much, so long as it's theirs doing the weeping and not ours.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (AURKQ)

333 328 San Fran is banning smoking including vaping?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (SaxfT)
---

But Pot is totes okay.

Posted by: WisRich at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (G0vdT)

334 I'd wager the S-300's are just outside the various WMD sites strung out across Iran.

At one at Mr. Mullah's place in Tehran.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (PlceE)

335 328 San Fran is banning smoking including vaping?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (SaxfT)


The law doesn't apply to illegal immigrants. /sarc

Posted by: Roy at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (40mSG)

336
Dumb question, but are we purchasing anything that moves through the Straits of Hormuz? Is Iranian piracy someone else's problem? Like China's?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (M9ntN)

337 328
San Fran is banning smoking including vaping?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (SaxfT)
Had to do it, someone was enjoying themselves.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (37IEG)

338 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.


The M44 is a good hog gun. And it comes with it's own pig-sticker, just in case.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (qiqGr)

339 Getting close to me in NH.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 11:57 AM (N39Ws)


They really are fun to hunt, and good eating if properly smoked. I use a Springfield M1A.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (GEo5Y)

340 Pasty Joe chimes in:

NEW: In statement, @JoeBiden lashes out at @realDonaldTrump Iran strategy as "a self-inflicted disaster," and says pulling from diplomacy has "made military conflict more likely."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

How do you do diplomacy with animals that chant for your death? STFU Biden.

Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (oiNtH)

341 ... none around me.


https://tinyurl.com/yx9hqcub

Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 11:56 AM (Cus5s)

Want some? I'll throw in some armadillos, too.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (ykq7q)

342 Gracci had their problems with the Deep State. And ended up dead.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (e1mEI)

343 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: joncelli


.357 on up in pistol calibers out of rifles.
.223 on up in rifle calibers.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (sRczR)

344 We could distribute comely and built Iranian war brides to the lonely here on AoSHQ.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (u82oZ)


Well maybe, but I will stick vimen made in the USA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (V+Su2)

345 San Fran is banning smoking including vaping?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (SaxfT)
++++++++++
Why? And how? And if they're doing it, why do I suspect that their hordes of aggressive street people will not be interfered with, but workers and conference-goers certainly will be?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (I2dne)

346 Biden gave Iran pallets of cash with Barky. He probably licked ever dollar.

F that old, senile grandpa, creeper

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (VpIIl)

347 >>Thanks to Barky for giving the mullahs pallets of cash and to Kerry for having their backs.

Disgusting beyond measure. How many loved ones have wept over the coffins of their slain sons and daughters who have died due to Iran's support of terror? One would be too many.


Thanks to them and a lot of others in DC, the media, academia for getting into Qatar, who are allied with Iran.

I also recall reading that Obama was giving a lot of Iranian VIPs citizenship, just to be sure we had our fill of Iranian nationals making trouble from within our borders.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (bDqIh)

348
San Fran is banning smoking including vaping?


Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (SaxfT)


But you can still smoke pot on the street if you want to.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (TAmPV)

349 329
So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (RD7QR)
Your friendly neighborhood .308 is a good choice so the little bastard doesn't stand up again like he does sometimes after you stun him with that .223

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (37IEG)

350 an Fran is banning smoking including vaping?

Posted by: BourbonChicken

But you can shit out in the open. Winning.

Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 12:01 PM (oiNtH)

351 343
So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: joncelli





.357 on up in pistol calibers out of rifles.

.223 on up in rifle calibers.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:00 PM (sRczR)
Give me an excuse to get a nice .308 or a .338

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 12:01 PM (N39Ws)

352 Well if this war lasts 12 or 13 years we can send Joe Biden over to sniff its hair.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 12:01 PM (0PDHs)

353 San Fran is banning smoking including vaping?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (SaxfT)


Vape and chew is tobacco too.

- San Fran Nan

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 12:01 PM (1g7ch)

354 good eating if properly smoked. I use a Springfield M1A.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (GEo5Y)

I'd use a couple good handfuls of soaked hickory and cherry, but that's just me. You do you.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (AURKQ)

355 Shoot a feral hog and then stand around awhile as it cools off. Watch all the critters that un-ass from the carcass. You will never eat one after that.

And use .308.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (VpIIl)

356 SF's ban on smoking is to prevent the smoke smell from taking away from the ambiance of the shit aroma.

Posted by: Roy at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (40mSG)

357 Dumb question, but are we purchasing anything that moves through the Straits of Hormuz? Is Iranian piracy someone else's problem? Like China's?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (M9ntN)


Oil still runs the worlds economy and even if we in the USA do not get most of our oil from the Persian gulf, others do- japan, china, the eu and YADA YADA YADA- and with all our economies intertwined, it would have an effect. Hell oil is up 6% today already

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (V+Su2)

358 Just had an involuntary reboot.

Y'all watching Lindsey?


Posted by: Thulsa Doom at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (fuK7c)

359 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (RD7QR)

A rifle or carbine that loads a full sized rifle cartridge. 30-06, 308, 270...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (WG6O9)

360 350 an Fran is banning smoking including vaping?

Posted by: BourbonChicken

But you can shit out in the open. Winning.
Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 12:01 PM (oiNtH)

and Pot is still AOK!

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (NgKpN)

361 How do you do diplomacy with animals that chant for your death? STFU Biden.
Posted by: Cheri


Slo-Joe is miffed because Donald Trump has upended the treaty that Kerry and The Clean Articulate Negro formulated as "policy"

Some policy, huh?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (vcOmj)

362 Give me an excuse to get a nice .308 or a .338


If you want to be professional about it, get a good 308 and a nightvision scope. Take them at night in the farmer's field. Some people even shoot suppressed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (qiqGr)

363 10 theocracy

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (swldI)

364 Nevergiveup

You are not lonely. IIANM, soon you will be surrounded by bridesmaids.

Now broseiden or Slapweasel or Country Boy or ...

Insomniac has escaped that dire fate with the wonderful help of nurse ratched. And Her Grace, Miley the Duchess and shibumi are also givers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (u82oZ)

365 Give me an excuse to get a nice .308 or a .338
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 12:01 PM (N39Ws)


Go mag-fed.

Here's the deal. I've never shot at "just one". Always find 'em in groups. Usually, they'll scatter. But now and then, they'll charge.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (GEo5Y)

366

Feral pigs>>>Mike Farrell

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (aKsyK)

367 Give me an excuse to get a nice .308 or a .338
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


.45-70, .444.

What works best is something suppressed and sub sonic. 1st crack and they are headed to the next county.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:04 PM (sRczR)

368 251 >>blocking Hormuz doesn't hurt us; it hurts Putin and Emperor Xi. if Iran provokes a fight, they are stupid.

It's about 25% if the world's oil supply. It might not hurt as badly but it would indeed hurt us.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 11:45 AM (PxX5


I think a little hurt would be worth it to bring Iran to it's knees.

On the other side of the coin, however, I don't think anyone has any idea of how many Iranians have crossed our southern border of the US. There could be some really bad retaliation in this country.

Posted by: Sooner at June 20, 2019 12:04 PM (Fs5vw)

369 349
329

So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.



Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (RD7QR)
Then again, you can just never go wrong with an 3.5-inch bazooka.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:04 PM (37IEG)

370 If we have been at war for 40 years why did Teagan sell them our most advanced bHawk middle system ?
Why did their main ally Russia help to elect our POTUS ?
As for no longer being a neocon, sorry but that train already left and you were onboard too late to day you didn't really want to go there

Posted by: Kurt at June 20, 2019 12:04 PM (apH+b)

371 329 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (RD7QR)

12 gauge slug, through the head.

A friend of mine and I yesterday were just talking about a guy we know who kills them with an air rifle. (!?!?) of course he has a high powered air rifle that he charges up for about 100 shots at a time, don't know how many psi it holds (No hand pump!) He lets the hog get real close and shoots them through the eye.

that guys got balls of steel.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 12:04 PM (Kpl3J)

372
Oil still runs the worlds economy and even if we in the USA do not get most of our oil from the Persian gulf, others do- japan, china, the eu and YADA YADA YADA- and with all our economies intertwined, it would have an effect. Hell oil is up 6% today already

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (V+Su2)

Climb oil climb!

Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (EV0u2)

373 San Fran is banning smoking including vaping?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2019 11:58 AM (SaxfT)

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But Pot is totes okay.

Posted by: WisRich at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (G0vdT)

And dick. Lots of dick smoking going on in san fran.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (9Om/r)

374 Pro Tip for those waiting for a US Response:

Watch for any increase in Israeli preparendness and mobilizations

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (V+Su2)

375 I just took my dog, Paisley, for a walk. Somehow she got her leash caught in the legs of this portable, propane-powered fire pit thing.
That sent her off on a mad, freak-out panic, roaring around the yard with the fire pit and propane tank in tow. In the process she knocked over a flower pot and ended up tangled in a lilac bush. It took a little effort to get her untangled.
Now, having observed me go into the mystery room with the big white water bowl, coming out a little damp and clean and getting dressed she's worried I'm about to go out. I'm not, but she's worried.
Poor doggie.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (JgA4k)

376 Broseidon Czar of the Brocean

Thread-winner.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (u82oZ)

377 350 an Fran is banning smoking including vaping?

Posted by: BourbonChicken

But you can shit out in the open. Winning.
Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 12:01 PM (oiNtH)

and Pot is still AOK!
Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (NgKpN)



Just telll the jackboots that your vape is THC oil....

Ok, CBD oil to be politically correct in San Fran.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (1g7ch)

378 Use an M203.

Pre-tenderized.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (AURKQ)

379 Nevergiveup

Correct. Plus the Saudi's and Kuwait.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (u82oZ)

380
Slo-Joe is miffed because Donald Trump has upended the treaty that Kerry and The Clean Articulate Negro formulated as "policy"


Slo-Joe is miffed because he got himself a sweet cut of the cash Obama sent to Iran and now they're putting the screws to him.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (TAmPV)

381 Then again, you can just never go wrong with an 3.5-inch bazooka.


Fougasse. The hams come already cooked.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (qiqGr)

382 I'd use a couple good handfuls of soaked hickory and cherry, but that's just me. You do you.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (AURKQ)


I tried apple once ... wasn't as good. And that surprised me - because apple works great on pork chops. Go figure.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (GEo5Y)

383 Ok I'm no military strategerist. But it seems to me that this should be a multi-country a response. How do we do that? Well a little deception. So say we bomb ooooh for arguments sake, Germany. But on the bombs we write "Hello From Iran." (or some such wording). and Boom. Germanys in 100%.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (OX6sG)

384 The US does not rely on petro from the Gulf as much as we used to.

South Korea, Japan and China do. Among others (Europe comes to mind.)

Maybe let them figure this shit out? OTOH we could put China over another barrel by pinching off their oil and let this fester a while.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (PlceE)

385 Climb oil climb!


Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 12:05 PM (EV0u2)


LOL, you own options?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (V+Su2)

386 From SFGate:
Smokers no longer would be allowed to puff away near the doors, vents and operable windows of any building - restaurants, shops, offices and housing complexes.
Diners no longer would be able to smoke at outdoor tables. Smoking would be banned from farmers' markets, lines for movie theaters, concerts and sporting events, near ATMs and cab stands. The smoking ban in and near transit stops would be expanded.


So not blanket, but getting close. That effectively eliminates much of the city. Like many major cities, there are vents and air-handlers on big buildings *everywhere.* And how, from the outside, will someone who does not occupy a building necessarily know what windows are operable? Will need to assume that they are. And I am also curious as to what "near" means.

This kind of thing is sadly typical. San Francisco has titanic problems and they go after something that - if it is even a problem at all - is so minor that it doesn't matter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (I2dne)

387 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.

-
8.8 cm Flak 18/36/37/41

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (+y/Ru)

388 good eating if properly smoked. I use a Springfield M1A.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:59 AM (GEo5Y)

I'd use a couple good handfuls of soaked hickory and cherry, but that's just me. You do you.
Posted by: Warai-otok


200 to 250 lbs or less. Anything over 300 lbs is starting to get old and tough.

Remember, these are wild hogs, not farm raised layabouts.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (sRczR)

389
Nice starter Navy you got there ayatollah.
Shame if you had some maritime accidents befall it.

~US Navy Submarine Command

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (8XRCm)

390 358 Just had an involuntary reboot.

Y'all watching Lindsey?


Posted by: Thulsa Doom at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (fuK7c)

What's Miss Lindsay up to?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (RD7QR)

391 "There was an article in the not too distant past that the communications between the drone and the controllers, including any audio/video/photography/data is not encrypted. Very easy to intercept."

I have a "hobbiest" drone and the communications with it are effectively encrypted. I cannot believe the military versions aren't.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 12:07 PM (uYEsI)

392 Back under the stairs, Dunce.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:07 PM (qiqGr)

393 This kind of thing is sadly typical. San Francisco has titanic problems and they go after something that - if it is even a problem at all - is so minor that it doesn't matter.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (I2dne)

To be fair, it is a city full of low hanging fruits.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:07 PM (AURKQ)

394 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.

-----

Try one of them there atlatls.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:07 PM (8XRCm)

395 I wonder what it would take to build a piprline from the Saudi oilfields through Oman in order to bypass the Straits? Granted you've now given a potential stranglehold to the Sultan of Oman, but fellow Arabs would surely be more trustworthy, for values of trust, than Persians.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at June 20, 2019 12:08 PM (2E6fI)

396 200 to 250 lbs or less. Anything over 300 lbs is starting to get old and tough.



Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (sRczR)


Very true. You obviously know your hogs. I'm more of a novice.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 12:08 PM (GEo5Y)

397 With the state of satellite technology these days.. do we even need drones for surveillance? especially if they cost $200 million!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 12:08 PM (so+oy)

398 NEW: In statement, @JoeBiden lashes out at @realDonaldTrump Iran strategy as "a self-inflicted disaster," and says pulling from diplomacy has "made military conflict more likely."

Biden-Obama-_progressive style diplomacy , arm their pals to disarm their enemy, U.S.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:08 PM (r/xAU)

399 He lets the hog get real close and shoots them through the eye.

that guys got balls of steel.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 12:04 PM (Kpl3J)

Possible Darwin candidate.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 12:08 PM (ykq7q)

400 372 Someguy


Climb Peak Oil!

FIFY

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (u82oZ)

401 Vaping? Bad

Shooting up in the streets with government-provided needles, then dropping the needle wherever, is totes OK.

With apologies to our San Francisco 'rons and 'ettes: can we just wall this crazy in so that it doesn't spread?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (bDqIh)

402 Oh,and try not to hunt the little bastards on the same elevation they're standing on. The back of a pickup works.

If you have huge balls, get a boar spear and do it the way our ancient frequently killed ancestors did it.


Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (37IEG)

403 (I was just making a lame joke about the idea of using an M1 to smoke meat... i've never prepared wild hog. Just so's ya'll know.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (AURKQ)

404 punctuation is tool of putin who elected president and ships sail so there. its truth and spelling is tool of satan who elected porsedent too

Posted by: Krut at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (RD7QR)

405 Iran is a total sideshow. If the Navy wants to bar Iranian boats from the Straits for a couple of weeks, go ahead. But I wouldn't worry too much over an unmanned drone.

Win the election. That's what I care about.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (LISuA)

406 Sub launched cruise. No warning. No comment.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (W+RZ5)

407 I wonder what it would take to build a piprline from the Saudi oilfields through Oman in order to bypass the Straits? Granted you've now given a potential stranglehold to the Sultan of Oman, but fellow Arabs would surely be more trustworthy, for values of trust, than Persians.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at June 20, 2019 12:08 PM (2E6fI)


You don't have to. The Saudis can build one right to the Med thru a very trusted allie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (V+Su2)

408 BignJames

Those hogs are big and mean.


Maybe A-10 training flights?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (u82oZ)

409 oh, "no Blood for Oil!"

memories.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (r/xAU)

410 200 to 250 lbs or less. Anything over 300 lbs is starting to get old and tough.



Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (sRczR)

----

The piglets make the best eating.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (8XRCm)

411 My guess is that within the next 48 hrs we hit the SAM site that shot down the drone and possibly the naval base that launched the attacks against the tankers.

Posted by: MH-53J at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (Ln4Ks)

412 Hoyer said he received a call from Clyburn apologizing for remarks he made to The Wall Street Journal, in which Clyburn pointedly asked, "How many black folks are on Hoyer's staff?"

"I'm disappointed," Hoyer told POLITICO on Thursday morning. "I think he's wrong."

Hoyer said a majority of his congressional aides -- 70 percent -- do represent diverse populations: women, people of color, or LGBT individuals.

Pelosi said on Thursday that she and Clyburn also discussed his comments.

"We had a conversation. He apologized," Pelosi said.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (QkjLD)

413 Y'all watching Lindsey?


Posted by: Thulsa Doom at June 20, 2019 12:02 PM (fuK7c)

What's Miss Lindsay up to?



Oops. Thulsa was a sock I didn't get to use.

Lindsey says Iran is bullshit, if you attack our interests we're going to bring pain.

Said that Trump is being tested the way Assad tested Obama and that Trump's response will define him.

Said that Israel will in no way allow Iran to have nuclear weapons and when they go to war they will have our 100% support.

Said a few other hawkish things.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (fuK7c)

414
LOL, you own options?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (V+Su2)

Stock in a small oil firm, behaves a lot like an option.

Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (EV0u2)

415 I can't even begin to tell you how many hog's I've killed with a .22 WMR

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (jsWA8)

416 Unleash the B52s

Let them hate so long as they fear.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (6/uwW)

417 Some Hawaiians claim to hunt pig with dog and knife...

... be wise and not take them up on an offer to join them. Smarter to fish for shark past the reef with 'em.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (1g7ch)

418 "One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened."

I agree, and think that will happen. Trump is not going to play to cheap seats. He has Iran over an economic barrel and knows it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (H8QX8)

419 396 200 to 250 lbs or less. Anything over 300 lbs is starting to get old and tough.



Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (sRczR)

Very true. You obviously know your hogs. I'm more of a novice.

Wait... are we talking about hunting or a LBGT march?

Posted by: catman at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (4HMlb)

420 If you have huge balls, get a boar spear and do it the way our ancient frequently killed ancestors did it.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (37IEG)


Word.

Posted by: Robert Baratheon at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (GEo5Y)

421 Stock in a small oil firm, behaves a lot like an option.


Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (EV0u2)


Good luck. I hope you make a fortune.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (V+Su2)

422 I'd send Iran $1.5 billion in cash, wrapped up nice on easy to move pallets.

That would show them.

Posted by: Barak Obama at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (pw+jk)

423 The Dem Kerry/Jarret Iran strategy may not be what you think it is. Effectively they have been trying to crash the economy through various means so as to improve their chances in 2020.

I also suspect this is how someone like Soros got a large part of their wealth through the market churn caused by events affecting the markets that these speculators brought about. Ukraine for example and the Orange revolution had an effect on the Euro and various Euro bonds. Political instability results in market instability and gives the opportunity for speculators (or hedge funds if you like) to make money if you know in advance something is going to occur as a result of your own actions. If you knew when a political event like that would occur, you could make a tidy sum using options and futures with very little outlay of cash.

Many of the recent economic recessions have been caused by a rise in oil prices. Fracking makes the U.S. not as subject to physical shock but a rise in oil prices would cause a slowdown in the U.S. economy as these are set on the world market. I notice that not one person is calling for actual occupation so a destabilized Iran would keep oil prices elevated for some time.

Given the complexity in who hates whom in the Middle East, it is not a safe assumption to take anything at face value. It is just as possible that some of our Gulf "friends" planted bombs in order to spur to U.S. to fight their real enemies--the non-Arab Persians. It would have a side benefit of raising oil prices while being essentially riskless to them due to U.S. protection.

It is possible that the Iranians could have planted the bombs to raise oil prices. The Russians have also not been averse to aiding events that cause instability as this causes energy prices to rise to their benefit and market share as a "safe" alternative for Europe. The only folks probably not benefiting from this are the Chinese and other customers of Persian Gulf Oil.

Posted by: whig at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (WT0Md)

424 Shooting up in the streets with government-provided needles, then dropping the needle wherever, is totes OK.



With apologies to our San Francisco 'rons and 'ettes: can we just wall this crazy in so that it doesn't spread?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 12:09 PM (bDqIh)

I've heard the stat that SF gives away 200 needles a year PER addict. How is that helpful?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (OX6sG)

425 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.

-----

Shine em at night. Walk up to the biggest one and whack it with bat.

Trust me. This is how we did it back home.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (8XRCm)

426 iran just needed nuclear capability for heating and cooling the planet you guys.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (r/xAU)

427 Very true. You obviously know your hogs. I'm more of a novice.

Wait... are we talking about hunting or a LBGT march?




Closing time.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (qiqGr)

428 410
200 to 250 lbs or less. Anything over 300 lbs is starting to get old and tough.







Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (sRczR)
Friends let the big ones cook in the sun forever. The stench of a just dead old boar isn't quite strong enough to keep the buzzards away, but I'll bet they discuss it first.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (37IEG)

429 Said that Israel will in no way allow Iran to have nuclear weapons and when they go to war they will have our 100% support.

Said a few other hawkish things.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (fuK7c)

Whoa. Coming from somebody like Graham that's a significant revelation.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (RD7QR)

430 Stock in a small oil firm, behaves a lot like an option.


Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (EV0u2)


------

Erodes value over time ?????

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (8XRCm)

431 One option would be to keep any response under the radar, so Iran won't know for sure what happened.
Like, nuking them from orbit? Works for me.

Posted by: Paladin at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (quX0S)

432 Slack is up 50% already from its IPO (well not really IPO but let's call it an IPO). Irony is all of Slack's new millionaires hate OrangeManBad who is in large part responsible for this stratospheric market.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (FiUMj)

433 The piglets make the best eating.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (8XRCm)


Kiss my ass.

Posted by: Piglet, friend of Winnie the Pooh at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (GEo5Y)

434 Hey the SCOTUS has knocked down the 4th Circuit's ruling against the Bladensburg Peace Cross Memorial. The Cross can stay.

Gorsuch went after the 'offended observer' theory saying it is bad law, that such plaintiffs have no standing before the law.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (eR65l)

435 He lets the hog get real close and shoots them through the eye.

that guys got balls of steel.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 12:04 PM (Kpl3J)

Possible Darwin candidate.
Posted by: BignJames


Yeah. First time that air rifle blows a seal, that hog will eat his ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (sRczR)

436 really when you think about it a few senators and an SOS giving iran nuclear capability is way interesting if we had an actual media, or a govt or country that gives two shits.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (r/xAU)

437 419
396 200 to 250 lbs or less. Anything over 300 lbs is starting to get old and tough.







Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:06 PM (sRczR)



Very true. You obviously know your hogs. I'm more of a novice.



Wait... are we talking about hunting or a LBGT march?

Posted by: catman at June 20, 2019 12:11 PM (4HMlb)
More coffee spilled here. Nice!!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (N39Ws)

438 Pentagon briefing.

"There will be no questions"

dumb journalist "Can we ask why no questions?"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (vEIlU)

439 Yeah. First time that air rifle blows a seal, that hog will eat his ass.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (sRczR)

So much phrasing....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (AURKQ)

440
Just had an involuntary reboot.
Y'all watching Lindsey?


He has always been a hawk.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (TAmPV)

441 Unleash the B52s



Let them hate so long as they fear.



Good idea! Blast "Love Shack" and "Rock Lobster" at them until the mullahs commit suicide to get away from the noise.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targetting at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (0bu2O)

442 And an under the radar response ?
One shoukd always think twice before getting into an fight with anyone who has less to lose than you do
A grid malfunction here will make the USA squeal louder than one will make the Iranians

Posted by: Kurt at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (apH+b)

443

Not shot down over Iran...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (vEIlU)

444

Sounded like a pre-recorded message.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (vEIlU)

445 It's icecream!

Posted by: Air Rifle at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (qiqGr)

446 That's NOT a BLOWN seal, I had Ice Cream.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (jsWA8)

447 439
Yeah. First time that air rifle blows a seal, that hog will eat his ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (sRczR)



So much phrasing....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (AURKQ)
How did this conversation turn to Mayor Buttplug and Senator Spartacus?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (37IEG)

448 Jinx

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (qiqGr)

449 433
The piglets make the best eating.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (8XRCm)

Kiss my ass.




Posted by: Piglet, friend of Winnie the Pooh at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (GEo5Y)
I've been eating a 300lb+ pig for decades and it is still delicious.

Posted by: Kermit at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (N39Ws)

450 By the way, I'd like to send a little love Meghan McCain's way. Joy Behar is a bitch. It's her complete claim to any sort of tawdry fame she has. And McCain is indeed the "sacrificial Republican" every day she appears on the show.

So, maybe Meghan, you should leave the show.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (LISuA)

451 Mueller, "why is Iran being so naughty?.."

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (r/xAU)

452 200 to 250 lbs or less. Anything over 300 lbs is starting to get old and tough. "

Women?

*ducks*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (6qErC)

453 it's not 'water-boarding' if you use diesel..."

That's terrible - and funny.

For pride month switch to a bucket of Astro-lube.

Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2019 11:41 AM (FhXTo)

free bonus with diesel, you can light it and destroy the evidence once you get the information you need...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (8D42x)

454 The piglets make the best eating.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:10 PM (8XRCm)

Kiss my ass.

Posted by: Piglet, friend of Winnie the Pooh

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Eat More Eeyore!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 12:14 PM (+y/Ru)

455 Yeah. First time that air rifle blows a seal, that hog will eat his ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (sRczR)


No No - that's just a little ice cream.


Posted by: Air Rifle at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (GEo5Y)

456 Erodes value over time ?????

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (8XRCm)

Lol not that component. More like it's leveraged because a % increase in the price of oil has a larger % increase in earnings and vice versa.

Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (EV0u2)

457 groundhogs are bad enough, don't need no pigs stampeding everything.


Some in the south set up big cages to trap them ... give them feed, then after they start coming in, trap 25 at a time. Some even raise the little ones after catching them. But in the wild the piggies are terrorists ... and they can reproduce quickly.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

458 Tinfoil Hat On...

The US Navy shot down the drone in order to get Trump into a war with Iran

Tinfoil Hat Off

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (FiUMj)

459 In statement, @JoeBiden lashes out at @realDonaldTrump Iran strategy as "a self-inflicted disaster," and says pulling from diplomacy has "made military conflict more likely."

Biden believes giving the Mullahs billions of dollars to extend and fund their terrorist arm is the proper thing to do. Brain damaged egotistical pervert.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (e46OR)

460 A grid malfunction here will make the USA squeal louder than one will make the Iranians

Posted by: Kurt at June 20, 2019 12:13 PM (apH+b)



Damn. You are one stupid fucker there, Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (qiqGr)

461 Said that Trump is being tested the way Assad tested Obama and that Trump's response will define him. "

That's a good point - recall Obama made the big speech about his "Red Line" in Syria, Assad almost immediately called his bluff, and from then on everyone in the region knew without a doubt that Obama was just a big shit-talker that no one should ever take seriously. Obama's response defined him from that point forward.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (Kpl3J)

462 EC-130s from the PA ANG IIRC are configured to broadcast television. I wonder what would happen in Iran if they got blasted 24/7 by Van Halen's 'Hot for Teacher'

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (eR65l)

463 Maggie McCain can go fuck off. Anyone associated with the POS Juan McAmnesty can go fuck off.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 12:16 PM (FiUMj)

464 Kurt is making the job of parodying him harder and harder every time he comments.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 12:16 PM (RD7QR)

465 Destroy their single gasoline refinery and use our graphite weapons on the electric grid.

Posted by: Archer at June 20, 2019 12:16 PM (gmo/4)

466 Hey the SCOTUS has knocked down the 4th Circuit's ruling against the Bladensburg Peace Cross Memorial. The Cross can stay.
Gorsuch went after the 'offended observer' theory saying it is bad law, that such plaintiffs have no standing before the law.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 12:12 PM (eR65l)

Excellent! All of these types of lawfare lawsuits should be thrown out due to no standing at the lower levels.

Offended observer my ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2019 12:16 PM (Z+IKu)

467 462 EC-130s from the PA ANG IIRC are configured to broadcast television. I wonder what would happen in Iran if they got blasted 24/7 by Van Halen's 'Hot for Teacher'

PornHub would be better

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (jsWA8)

468 In case it hasn't been mentioned, we are owed this because of 1953 and Mossedeg(however it's spelled) and CIA installing that dick-tater the Shah.......so tired of hearing that shit, someone always pulls that excuse out of their ass when it comes to Iran.

Posted by: JROD at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (gPP3v)

469 EC-130s from the PA ANG IIRC are configured to broadcast television. I wonder what would happen in Iran if they got blasted 24/7 by Van Halen's 'Hot for Teacher'


Three's Company.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (qiqGr)

470
Maggie McCain

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Speaking of 300# pigs......

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (8XRCm)

471 EC-130s from the PA ANG IIRC are configured to broadcast television. I wonder what would happen in Iran if they got blasted 24/7 by Van Halen's 'Hot for Teacher'

Karma Cameleon ... only the best of Western Civ is good enough for Iran!

Posted by: catman at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (4HMlb)

472 Lewis and Clark took an air rifle on their expedition. It was lethal. The Indians were fairly impressed. So am I.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (W+RZ5)

473 Once, when I was a yout. "Hot for Teacher" came on the radio and my dad pulled over because the opening drum solo made him think he had a flat tire.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (1ISKN)

474 EC-130s from the PA ANG IIRC are configured to
broadcast television. I wonder what would happen in Iran if they got
blasted 24/7 by Van Halen's 'Hot for Teacher' ?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (eR65l)


Do not speak of such ghastly deeds.

Posted by: Manuel Noriega at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (GEo5Y)

475 Speaking of 300# pigs......"

Depends on the view.

/ wait for it...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 12:18 PM (6qErC)

476 470


Maggie McCain



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Speaking of 300# pigs......

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (8XRCm)
Hey, I have standards. I wouldn't even....

Posted by: Kermit at June 20, 2019 12:18 PM (N39Ws)

477 471 EC-130s from the PA ANG IIRC are configured to broadcast television. I wonder what would happen in Iran if they got blasted 24/7 by Van Halen's 'Hot for Teacher'

Karma Cameleon ... only the best of Western Civ is good enough for Iran!
Posted by: catman at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (4HMlb)

War crime.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 12:18 PM (RD7QR)

478 i like the "Nuke the Moon" methodology of international diplomacy:
https://tinyurl.com/y2gjthk2

Posted by: WaldoTJ at June 20, 2019 12:18 PM (M1MpJ)

479 Very true. You obviously know your hogs. I'm more of a novice.

Wait... are we talking about hunting or a LBGT march?
Posted by: catman


Shot a few, ate a bunch. Guy my sister knows roasted one for my nephew's HS graduation a couple of years back. I picked his brains on information. That's what got me into it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:18 PM (sRczR)

480 473 Once, when I was a yout. "Hot for Teacher" came on the radio and my dad pulled over because the opening drum solo made him think he had a flat tire.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (1ISKN)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: Millenial at June 20, 2019 12:18 PM (FiUMj)

481 NBC News
@NBCNews
Civilization could crumble by 2050 if we don't stop climate change now, new policy paper from an Australian think tank says.

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Wait. You're saying civilization hasn't crumbled?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (+y/Ru)

482
Shot a few, ate a bunch.

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Lesbians??

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (8XRCm)

483
Gorsuch went after the 'offended observer' theory saying it is bad law, that such plaintiffs have no standing before the law.
Posted by: Anna Puma

=====

Whoa, what? That sounds kind of momentous.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (M9ntN)

484 "There was an article in the not too distant past
that the communications between the drone and the controllers, including
any audio/video/photography/data is not encrypted. Very easy to
intercept."



I have a "hobbiest" drone and the communications with it are
effectively encrypted. I cannot believe the military versions aren't.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 12:07 PM (uYEsI)

===
Your first mistake is taking anything from an "article" as close to the truth. Gell-Mann amnesia is real.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (pw+jk)

485 Anna Puma

Good idea.

Let's extend that to those girls playing brass instruments you like to link. And there are a number of other possibilities, like Progressive car insurance commercials, loops of nuclear blast damage, and several Elephant walk videos.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (u82oZ)

486 I don't get it.
Posted by: Millenial at June 20, 2019 12:18 PM (FiUMj)

You see, when the tire on a car gets damaged, all the air comes out, and...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (AURKQ)

487 this is the way I see it, there will only be interest in Iran when something similar to 9 11 happens .

and then half the country will say we fight while the other half says, Imperialistic Americans .

i'm saying if it happens in Pelosi's -Feinstein's - Blasio's or DC we just say they hate brown peoples and it's their own fault., and we aren't going to fight a war over oil.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (r/xAU)

488 Van Halen's 'Hot For Teacher' video is one of those rare pieces of art that inspires laughter and boners.

Mostly boners.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (bcbK8)

489 "I've heard the stat that SF gives away 200 needles a year PER addict. How is that helpful? "

Keeps the needle manufacturer in the black...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (uYEsI)

490 482


Shot a few, ate a bunch.



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Lesbians??

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (8XRCm)
Pics or it didn't happen

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 12:19 PM (N39Ws)

491 472
Lewis and Clark took an air rifle on their expedition. It was lethal. The Indians were fairly impressed. So am I.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (W+RZ5)
Some Italian dude back in the 1700/1800's (can't remember) built one that fired musket rounds - with recharge cylinders. Sold a bunch of them, regiment level.
It was lethal. Never caught on though. Probably more difficult to maintain the running hot water down the barrel to clean it and drying it all out with patches.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:20 PM (37IEG)

492 I have been wanting to try a pig Luau style. I assume it is more or less like a goat roast.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:20 PM (qiqGr)

493 They need to bring back music videos and music video babes.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:20 PM (1ISKN)

494 FWIW, I prefer Win 30-30. Slim profile, short length, easy to handle in the scrub brush...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 12:20 PM (6qErC)

495 468 In case it hasn't been mentioned, we are owed this because of 1953 and Mossedeg(however it's spelled) and CIA installing that dick-tater the Shah.......so tired of hearing that shit, someone always pulls that excuse out of their ass when it comes to Iran.
Posted by: JROD at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (gPP3v)

___

Plus the Crusades!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (FiUMj)

496 War Pigs?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (bcbK8)

497 They need to bring back music videos and music video babes.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:20 PM (1ISKN)
++++++++++
Sure treated us and our viewers well.

Posted by: Whitesnake at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (I2dne)

498
I've heard the stat that SF gives away 200 needles a year PER addict. How is that helpful? "


I don't see the point.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (TAmPV)

499 @491
Geribaldi or something close to that.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (W+RZ5)

500 Some in the south set up big cages to trap them ... give them feed, then after they start coming in, trap 25 at a time. Some even raise the little ones after catching them. But in the wild the piggies are terrorists ... and they can reproduce quickly.
Posted by: illiniwek


10 lb canister of tannerite. 50 lb sack of corn. Herd move in to eat corn, one shot on tannerite. Boom.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (sRczR)

501 They need to bring back music videos and music video babes.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:20 PM (1ISKN)


I used to be a big fan. Not anymore.

Posted by: Chuck Finley at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (GEo5Y)

502 Just listened Lindsey Graham talk to reporters. I love Lindsey 2.0 although he's ways always kinda war happy.

Posted by: WisRich at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (G0vdT)

503 just like witches at black masses.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (qiqGr)

504 Mullahs having a conference. Suddenly their PowerPoint presentation on the progress of the nuclear program is hacked by Tawny Kitaen crawling across the hood of a Jaguar.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 12:22 PM (eR65l)

505 Watch Dear Meat for Dinner on You Tube.. He hunts them on his Fl ranch with a cross bow at night all the time. Clean cook and eats them. Take a look... Mostly a Moron (like us) too!

Posted by: catman at June 20, 2019 12:22 PM (4HMlb)

506 FBI Serves Incredibly Broad Warrant To 8chan, Demanding Info On All Users Who Responded To A Shooter's Post

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 12:22 PM (QkjLD)

507 @NBCNews
Civilization could crumble by 2050 if we don't stop climate change now, new policy paper from an Australian think tank says.

____

But won't we all be dead in 12 years?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 12:22 PM (FiUMj)

508 But won't we all be dead in 12 years?


The question is moot!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:23 PM (qiqGr)

509 506 FBI Serves Incredibly Broad Warrant To 8chan, Demanding Info On All Users Who Responded To A Shooter's Post

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 12:22 PM (QkjLD)

Infodump in response. Every post from all the users who posted or viewed the thread.

Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 12:23 PM (EV0u2)

510 The only folks probably not benefiting from this are the Chinese and other customers of Persian Gulf Oil.
Posted by: whig


Unless they offer to waltz in and pick up the pieces. Iran loses its port? China will build new, modern one! For a few concessions, naturally...oh wait, Oman's got blown up in the hostilities? We'll replace that one, to! Just agree to these few conditions...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 12:23 PM (AM1GF)

511 Real men hunt hogs with a long bow. You get the pig, or the pig gets you.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:23 PM (W+RZ5)

512 The great Paul Shanklin contributed to the theme too, although he was kicking McLame at the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iKuMVqht4U

Posted by: exdem13 at June 20, 2019 12:23 PM (W+kMI)

513 FWIW, I prefer Win 30-30. Slim profile, short length, easy to handle in the scrub brush...
Posted by: Anon a mouse


And the new Henry Side Gate Loader allows reloads on the fly!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:23 PM (sRczR)

514 Former Olympic track athlete Conrad Mainwaring was arrested on one felony count of sexual battery on Wednesday amidst an ESPN investigation that reported more than 30 men were molested by the 67-year-old Los Angeles-based high school track and field coach.

The ESPN Outside The Lines report claims the abuse spanned over the course of 44 years, with the youngest alleged victim claiming abuse at age 14.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 12:24 PM (QkjLD)

515 Real men hunt hogs with a long bow. You get the pig, or the pig gets you.


I'm not a fan of fairness to food.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:24 PM (qiqGr)

516 506 FBI Serves Incredibly Broad Warrant To 8chan, Demanding Info On All Users Who Responded To A Shooter's Post
Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 12:22 PM (QkjLD)

_____

I'm old enough to remember when Americans were free to say stuff without the police showing up.

Good times those were.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 12:24 PM (FiUMj)

517
I've heard the stat that SF gives away 200 needles a year PER addict. How is that helpful? "

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70,000 people a year died from opioid abuse. 70,0000 HUMAN BEINGS....DEAD.

And these fuckers are giving them free needles, safe places to shoot, legalizing recreational dope, buying NARCAN like lip gloss and wanting to subsidize for free smack.

Assault rifles kill less than 100 on any given year and the same people want to tear up the Constitution fer safeties sake.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:24 PM (8XRCm)

518 But won't we all be dead in 12 years?"

Only in the northern hemisphere. See "On the Beach"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 12:25 PM (6qErC)

519 Which is better for killing feral pigs, bow or crossbow?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:25 PM (1ISKN)

520 The ESPN Outside The Lines report claims the abuse spanned over the course of 44 years, with the youngest alleged victim claiming abuse at age 14.
Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 12:24 PM (QkjLD)

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Not sure I get what the issue is.

Posted by: Today's Democrats at June 20, 2019 12:25 PM (FiUMj)

521 "Civilization could crumble by 2050 if we don't stop climate change now, new policy paper from an Australian think tank says."

Pfeh, as if you could tell. I've seen the Roadwarrior documentaries.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 12:25 PM (uYEsI)

522 Many of the recent economic recessions have been caused by a rise in oil prices. Fracking makes the U.S. not as subject to physical shock but a rise in oil prices would cause a slowdown in the U.S. economy as these are set on the world market. I notice that not one person is calling for actual occupation so a destabilized Iran would keep oil prices elevated for some time. "

What you say was true in the 1970's and 1980's - BUT - The economic situation with respect to oil has changed dramatically in recent years, and those making these old economic arguments haven't taken that into account.

In the 70's and 80's, the higher prices paid for oil would all be shipped overseas, leading to an immediate and dramatic loss of income for the US Economy. BUT with the US having taken over the position of #1 Oil Producer in the World, today the increased oil revenues in large part would flow to the major oil producing states such as Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, North Dakota, and even Pennsylvania. What' more, the excise and production taxes would lead to a huge INCREASE in Tax revenues for those states, putting them into surplus, and the Royalties and excise taxes on our large offshore production would immediately bring about a huge boost in Federal tax revenues.

In short, while higher oil prices would still impact consumer spending, so much of that increase would flow back into the US Economy in other ways that there is likely to be no net economic loss at all. That's one of the huge benefits of boosting your own production that nobody ever talks about, but they should.

It also demonstrates why it would be incredibly foolish for anyone to try to "hurt" the US by engineering high oil prices. It can't work anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 12:26 PM (Kpl3J)

523 Infodump in response. Every post from all the users who posted or viewed the thread.
Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 12:23 PM (EV0u2)


Send copy of everything ever posted and or visited the domain

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 12:26 PM (1g7ch)

524 FBI Serves Incredibly Broad Warrant To 8chan, Demanding Info On All Users Who Responded To A Shooter's Post

which is why I would never register anywhere, and hope this place has a document dump, just in case, LOL.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:26 PM (r/xAU)

525 "Which is better for killing feral pigs, bow or crossbow?"

Ma-deuce.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 12:26 PM (uYEsI)

526 I love this part of Gorsuch's ruling, it probably sent Ruth Vader-Meinhoff Ginsburg to the fainting couch.

The Constitution's meaning is fixed, not some good-for-this-day-only coupon, and a practice consistent with our nation's traditions is just as permissible whether undertaken today or 94 years ago...

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 12:26 PM (eR65l)

527 Which is better for killing feral pigs, bow or crossbow?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:25 PM (1ISKN)

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Crosboww.

Moar power and takes no skill to shoot.

Crossbowers arent *real* archers.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:26 PM (8XRCm)

528 I'm not a fan of fairness. Unless I'm losing.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 12:26 PM (6qErC)

529 @519
Consider the boar spear. So personal.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:27 PM (W+RZ5)

530 499
@491

Geribaldi or something close to that.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:21 PM (W+RZ5)
Better than I did at getting close - I didn't even try because I'd of said Luigui SpumoniGirandoni

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:27 PM (37IEG)

531 The best way to get hogs is with some M18's set up around a bait pit. You get them all at once. Bonus: ready-made pulled pork

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:27 PM (VpIIl)

532 Also oil isn't as critical to the world's economy as it was in the 70s and 80s. It's still important obviously, but we have many more options for energy, and we're much more energy efficient. Which makes us less hostage to the whims of the crazies in the middle east.

Posted by: Today's Democrats at June 20, 2019 12:27 PM (FiUMj)

533 Heh - turns out that was the air rifle Lewis and Clarke had with them.
Full circle.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (37IEG)

534 507 @NBCNews
Civilization could crumble by 2050 if we don't stop climate change now, new policy paper from an Australian think tank says.

____

But won't we all be dead in 12 years?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
______

No, we're all dead three years ago. Pay attention.

Posted by: Al Gore at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (9vQJW)

535 Which is better for killing feral pigs, bow or crossbow?"

Feet per second.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (6qErC)

536 FBI Serves Incredibly Broad Warrant To 8chan, Demanding Info On All Users Who Responded To A Shooter's Post.

-

they could go to any left demonstrations and pick up active violent offenders. They are unserious, it's all intimidation.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (r/xAU)

537 I have been wanting to try a pig Luau style. I assume it is more or less like a goat roast.
Posted by: Grump928(C)


We did one on a vertical spit with a big wood fire every Thanksgiving at my ex's grandparents. Family would come in from all over Texas and Louisiana. It was a 90 lb store bought pig.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (sRczR)

538 Trump is meeting with prissy boy Trudeau right now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (vEIlU)

539 526 I love this part of Gorsuch's ruling, it probably sent Ruth Vader-Meinhoff Ginsburg to the fainting couch.

The Constitution's meaning is fixed, not some good-for-this-day-only coupon, and a practice consistent with our nation's traditions is just as permissible whether undertaken today or 94 years ago...
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2019 12:26 PM (eR65l)

____

DAAAAAAYUM that's good.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (FiUMj)

540 @526-

It's an awesome concurr nice. Message to " offended observers": LOLGF.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (eq2Ql)

541 We now have a bobcat that comes around occasionally. I love that little bastard, it's a murder machine and kills just about anything that breaths.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (VpIIl)

542 Feet per second.


Foot pounds.

*touches nose*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (qiqGr)

543 >>@NBCNews
Civilization could crumble by 2050 if we don't stop climate change now, new policy paper from an Australian think tank says.


Typical SF resident: "Damnit, warm weather will ruin my street-shitting, gay sex-performance filled street fair, and recreational drug and activism community life!! Oh, the [already lost for some] humanity!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (bDqIh)

544 Sorry, folks, but store bought pig tastes about 1000% better than feral pig.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (1ISKN)

545 538 Trump is meeting with prissy boy Trudeau right now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:28 PM (vEIlU)

Your hair. Low T hair. Sad!

Posted by: The Donald at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (RD7QR)

546 "Assault rifles kill less than 100 on any given year and the same people want to tear up the Constitution fer safeties sake."

Gotta argue the 'Assault Rifle' usage.

If it don't have a Pew-pew-pew-pew-pew on the selector, it's just a lightweight semi-automatic sporting rifle.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (cqNba)

547 "Which is better for killing feral pigs, bow or crossbow?"

Ma-deuce.
Posted by: Rob Crawford


.45-70

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (sRczR)

548 70,000 people a year died from opioid abuse. 70,0000 HUMAN BEINGS....DEAD.

And these fuckers are giving them free needles, safe places to shoot, legalizing recreational dope, buying NARCAN like lip gloss and wanting to subsidize for free smack.
(...)
Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:24 PM (8XRCm)

You forgot, "All while criminalizing people in chronic pain who need doctor's prescriptions."

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 12:30 PM (BD/yx)

549 Civilization could crumble by 2050 if we don't stop climate change now, new policy paper from an Australian think tank says.

____

But won't we all be dead in 12 years?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
______

No, we're all dead three years ago. Pay attention.

-
Repealing Net Neutrality killed us last year.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 12:30 PM (+y/Ru)

550 Which is better for killing feral pigs, bow or crossbow?

A Lance. From Horseback. - Bengal Lancers

Posted by: Archer at June 20, 2019 12:30 PM (gmo/4)

551 544 Sorry, folks, but store bought pig tastes about 1000% better than feral pig.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (1ISKN)

Meh. It's good for a big crowd. Get enough beer in them and then serve the hog and nobody will be the wiser.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (RD7QR)

552 Sorry, folks, but store bought pig tastes about 1000% better than feral pig.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe


Of course it does. It's all about the feed.
Biggest difference? Feral is free.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (sRczR)

553 .45-70

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (sRczR)
Now you're talking - a rifle that lets you know you just pulled the trigger!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (37IEG)

554 You forgot, "All while criminalizing people in chronic pain who need doctor's prescriptions."
Posted by: Synova

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (r/xAU)

555 "Meh. It's good for a big crowd. Get enough beer in them and then serve the hog and nobody will be the wiser."

Until the next day...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (VpIIl)

556 I like how we send drones in now, but still pretend to be all indignant if one gets shot down.

Like it's a big deal or something.

Was there a G.I. Joe action figure onboard and now he's being held hostage? Does he have a tiny burlap bag over his head? Did they re-record his talking mechanism so when you pull his string he says, "America is Satan, Allahu Akbar!"?

So now we start wars over busted drones? That's like killing a guy because he broke your iPod.

Posted by: RKae at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (lk1TJ)

557 "Repealing Net Neutrality killed us last year."

But I don't want to get on the cart....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (cqNba)

558 You forgot, "All while criminalizing people in chronic pain who need doctor's prescriptions."
Posted by: Synova

and their doctors. they care more about criminals then victims. again.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:32 PM (r/xAU)

559 2nd mouse gets the cheese ... so I guess the second hog gets the bow hunter. ...

Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 12:32 PM (Cus5s)

560 He was a good boy.

Posted by: Mama Trudeau at June 20, 2019 12:32 PM (vtcmf)

561 Honestly, was there a sale on non-sequiturs today that I missed?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:32 PM (VpIIl)

562 555 "Meh. It's good for a big crowd. Get enough beer in them and then serve the hog and nobody will be the wiser."

Until the next day...
Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (VpIIl)

Well, okay, put a pallet of toilet paper on the list of party supplies.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 12:32 PM (RD7QR)

563 I wonder what it would take to build a piprline from the Saudi oilfields through Oman in order to bypass the Straits? Granted you've now given a potential stranglehold to the Sultan of Oman, but fellow Arabs would surely be more trustworthy, for values of trust, than Persians.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at June 20, 2019 12:08 PM (2E6fI)

........................

Irt already exists, but even better.. it goes straight to the red sea. Both an oil and a natural gas pipeline.

The stuff going through the Straits of Hormuz is likely destined for China or other eastern countries. You'll recall one of the tankers that got bombed was Japanese.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (so+oy)

564 MSNBC faux journalist Kasie Hunt tried to spread fake news yesterday by saying that the segregationalist Senators that Biden referenced were Republicans.

Deareast Kasie, there are those of us out here in yokel land who actually have some knowledge and internet. Biden named the Senators and a simple search can show us mouth breathers that they were Democrats. You poor dear.

Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (oiNtH)

565 So now we start wars over busted drones? That's like killing a guy because he broke your iPod.

Posted by: RKae


*shifty eyes

Wait. We don't do that?

*shifty eyes

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (sRczR)

566 actaully I knew a guy in New Orleans that killed a big one with a bow ... but I wonder if he carried a gun for backup ... I would think so.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (Cus5s)

567 i like the "Nuke the Moon" methodology of international diplomacy:
https://tinyurl.com/y2gjthk2
Posted by: WaldoTJ at June 20, 2019 12:18 PM

Never. Not. Funny.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (6yUhx)

568 The last Wild hog I killed was with a 50 caliber muzzleloader. Stalked within 10 yards and let him have a 300 grain slug through both lungs. He was maybe 150 pounds and quite tasty.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (W+RZ5)

569

hmm

Trump saying it's possible that Iran did not want to shoot down that drone in International air, and that it was a "mistake."

hmmmm

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (vEIlU)

570 Honestly, was there a sale on non-sequiturs today that I missed?

Posted by: Marcus T

----

I'm using the chicken to measure it.

Posted by: RKae at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (lk1TJ)

571 Some in the south set up big cages to trap them ... give them feed, then after they start coming in, trap 25 at a time. Some even raise the little ones after catching them. But in the wild the piggies are terrorists ... and they can reproduce quickly.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 20, 2019 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

Thats how we do it here in GA. A local trapper has a cage he can operate from his cell phone when the time is right.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at June 20, 2019 12:34 PM (9dQxE)

572 As the Biden Flops In the Days of Our Lives, All My Children Version

Just in: An Arkansas woman claims Hunter Biden is the father of her child - and she's suing to prove it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 12:34 PM (+y/Ru)

573 10 Why do they bother calling Iran a "republic"? There's nothing even remotely like a republic about it.


"Kingdom" would be closer in spirit, even though a king doesn't run it. Or the "State" of Iran?


Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (ClOmq)

"Shit-ocracy".

Posted by: Hikaru at June 20, 2019 12:34 PM (sm6Pk)

574 "Well, okay, put a pallet of toilet paper on the list of party supplies.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 12:32 PM (RD7QR)"

And lots of antibiotics and Biltricide.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:34 PM (VpIIl)

575 Kill the sow. Catch the piglets, put them on super growing mash for 2 months. Now they are ready to eat.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 20, 2019 12:34 PM (jsWA8)

576 You forgot, "All while criminalizing people in chronic pain who need doctor's prescriptions."

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 12:30 PM (BD/yx)

This. Just like gun laws. lets make the law abiding citizen a criminal because of sick individuals who don't follow the law.. and I've had bilateral knee replacements thankfully before they started holding back much needed pain relief.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 12:34 PM (OX6sG)

577

Trump now taking questions. From moments ago, tape.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:34 PM (vEIlU)

578 Trump's giving Iran "an out."

Trudeau looks like like a manchild

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (vEIlU)

579 I can remember when it was ok to give Iran our Tech/ money/ and nuclear capabilities. re" during Obama admin.

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (r/xAU)

580 Trudeau next to Trump is not a good look for Trudeau.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (gC2IV)

581
hmm

Trump saying it's possible that Iran did not want to shoot down that drone in International air, and that it was a "mistake."

hmmmm
Posted by: artisanal 'ette

======

It's possible. I still don't get why Iran would be going around randomly shooting and mining things.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (M9ntN)

582

oy, letting Trudeau talk.
He's so dumb.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (vEIlU)

583 Thats how we do it here in GA. A local trapper has a cage he can operate from his cell phone when the time is right.
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs



A big round or octagonal trap? Saw that on YouTube. Impressive.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (sRczR)

584


Lispy boy Trudeau.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (vEIlU)

585 If it don't have a Pew-pew-pew-pew-pew on the selector, it's just a lightweight semi-automatic sporting rifle.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (cqNba)

----

Yeah, yeah.... I know. I was using the language of the left.

Guilty.

But them asshole have no idea what a sporting rifle is, and they dont wanna know.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (8XRCm)

586 MSNBC faux journalist Kasie Hunt tried to spread fake news yesterday by saying that the segregationalist Senators that Biden referenced were Republicans.




They magically switched parties and never told anyone about it don't you know

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (OLCnA)

587 Watch out for ballsack ticks.

Posted by: Mama Trudeau at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (vtcmf)

588 "hmm

Trump saying it's possible that Iran did not want to shoot down that drone in International air, and that it was a "mistake."

hmmmm"

I sort of like that.

A public position that it could have been a mistake.

So therefore, if something in Iran goes 'splodey, it wasn't us.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (cqNba)

589 Domestic pig is castrated because of the bad flavor of boar meat.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (BD/yx)

590 552
Sorry, folks, but store bought pig tastes about 1000% better than feral pig.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe





Of course it does. It's all about the feed.

Biggest difference? Feral is free.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (sRczR)
Well, there is the price of the cartridge. But still a sweet deal.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (N39Ws)

591 It's possible. I still don't get why Iran would be going around randomly shooting and mining things.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (M9ntN)


speculation it is a way to give Iran an "out"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:37 PM (vEIlU)

592 Just in: An Arkansas woman claims Hunter Biden is the father of her child - and she's suing to prove it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, T

And in further As the Stomach Turns news, he would have impregnated her while he was still with his brother's widow.

Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 12:37 PM (oiNtH)

593 "Meh. It's good for a big crowd. Get enough beer in them and then serve the hog and nobody will be the wiser."
Until the next day...
Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:31 PM (VpIIl)

Oooooo.....Thunder Bucket time!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2019 12:37 PM (Z+IKu)

594
Trudeau next to Trump is not a good look for Trudeau.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

=====

Is he wearing his Mickey Mouse socks?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2019 12:37 PM (M9ntN)

595 70,000 people a year died from opioid abuse. 70,0000 HUMAN BEINGS....DEAD.



And these fuckers are giving them free needles, safe places to
shoot, legalizing recreational dope, buying NARCAN like lip gloss and
wanting to subsidize for free smack.

(...)

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:24 PM (8XRCm)



You forgot, "All while criminalizing people in chronic pain who need doctor's prescriptions."

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 12:30 PM (BD/yx)


The problem is the name: Narcan. It sounds like "narc."


If you want the junkies to use them regularly, when their fellow dope fiends overdose, you should call it something like... oh, I don't know, "Free Trip." Or "High Booster."

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 12:37 PM (a2xio)

596 or, Iran does not have control ... which is probably true anyway

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:37 PM (vEIlU)

597 *shifty eyes



Wait. We don't do that?



*shifty eyes

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (sRczR)

judgement call. Now if he leans on your car thats a no brainer.....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 12:37 PM (OX6sG)

598 573
10 Why do they bother calling Iran a "republic"? There's nothing even remotely like a republic about it.





"Kingdom" would be closer in spirit, even though a king doesn't run it. Or the "State" of Iran?





Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:05 AM (ClOmq)

Haven't you noticed?

The commies and tyrant kings think it's a clever disguise to call themselves a Republic. Soviet Socialist Republic, People's Republic of China, German Democratic Republic (East Germany for the youngsters), Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Republic of Iran.

Good that we didn't call ourselves the Republic of American States.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 20, 2019 12:37 PM (37IEG)

599 589
Domestic pig is castrated because of the bad flavor of boar meat.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (BD/yx)
What? You mean "makin bacon" ruins the taste?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (N39Ws)

600 "Trump saying it's possible that Iran did not want to shoot down that drone in International air, and that it was a "mistake."

hmmmm
Posted by: artisanal 'ette "

He's turning into a fag Jane Fonda Lite.

Yeah, and maybe it was turkey season and they were confused.

Someone is telling him not to "take the bait" because sanctions are killing them and this is meant to provoke a response. But sooner or later this is going to cost someone their lives. Then what?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (VpIIl)

601 Trudeau = shrimp.

Posted by: mikeyG at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (LL1Be)

602

NOOOD
Ace is up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (vEIlU)

603 521 "Civilization could crumble by 2050 if we don't stop climate change now, new policy paper from an Australian think tank says."


By that time I'll be dead. Good luck, everyone.

Posted by: Sooner at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (Fs5vw)

604 MSNBC faux journalist Kasie Hunt tried to spread fake news yesterday by saying that the segregationalist Senators that Biden referenced were Republicans.

Deareast Kasie, there are those of us out here in yokel land who actually have some knowledge and internet. Biden named the Senators and a simple search can show us mouth breathers that they were Democrats. You poor dear.
Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (oiNtH)


Mostly TRUE.
The parties switched positions sometime...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (1g7ch)

605 Sorry, folks, but store bought pig tastes about 1000% better than feral pig.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
------
Especially if it's one of those "heritage" pigs.

Posted by: lin-duh @ werk at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (9iLHi)

606 If you just leave the ballsack tick in place for a week or so, you can tell women you have 3 nuts.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (W+RZ5)

607 MSNBC faux journalist Kasie Hunt tried to spread fake news yesterday by saying that the segregationalist Senators that Biden referenced were Republicans.

Deareast Kasie, there are those of us out here in yokel land who actually have some knowledge and internet. Biden named the Senators and a simple search can show us mouth breathers that they were Democrats. You poor dear.
Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (oiNtH)

-----

But was she referring to the "pre THAY ALL SWITCHED SIDES" or to the "post THAY ALL SWITCHED SIDES" theory.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:39 PM (8XRCm)

608 569

hmm

Trump saying it's possible that Iran did not want to shoot down that drone in International air, and that it was a "mistake."

hmmmm
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (vEIlU)

Deescalating is prudent. The next boom is squarely on Iran's shoulders and it frustrates those who want a conflict. Nobody is enthusiastic about going hot now except Kerry and the Mullahs.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 12:39 PM (RD7QR)

609 With all of the private and public resources at his disposal Trump should be able to get a better face painter. He still has the reverse raccoon thing going on.

Get one of the guys who paints wolves on vans, or a model airplane builder, or even a tagger, there are plenty of people with spray paint skills.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 20, 2019 12:39 PM (fuK7c)

610 Someone is telling him not to "take the bait" because sanctions are killing them and this is meant to provoke a response. But sooner or later this is going to cost someone their lives. Then what?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (VpIIl)

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:39 PM (r/xAU)

611 let's see, if I were to strike Iran...

Obviously their oil export terminal, and sole gasoline refinery. No fuel, no money.

Destroy all their nuclear reactors and centrifuges (I don't care how deep you bury these fuckers - a Jdam will wreck them.)

All air defense units and warplanes. All missile launchers.

Power? Yeah ever substation and power plant is toast.

So no money, no weapons, no power. That should take, what, 3 weeks?

Then just wait them out.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 20, 2019 12:39 PM (VPvxh)

612 If Trudeau stopped moving he would look like a gay manikin.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:40 PM (VpIIl)

613 Someone is telling him not to "take the bait" because sanctions are killing them and this is meant to provoke a response. But sooner or later this is going to cost someone their lives. Then what?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (VpIIl)

Then we will Pull an Obama, and tell Americans 'we can absorb losses"


Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:40 PM (r/xAU)

614
But them asshole have no idea what a sporting rifle is, and they dont wanna know.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (8XRCm)

Crowder has great vid about that showing lefty stupidity about scary guns. or he did once....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 12:40 PM (OX6sG)

615 Father-in-law had his trail cam set to record video.
Sow and five or six bacon seeds go trotting down the trail. Pitch black out. Then you see Mr. Coyote following. Then you hear a squeal off camera. LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:40 PM (sRczR)

616 599 589
Domestic pig is castrated because of the bad flavor of boar meat.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (BD/yx)
What? You mean "makin bacon" ruins the taste?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 12:38 PM (N39Ws)

Oh, I don't know. Just what I was told when I helped my dad cut their little nuts out one time.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 12:40 PM (BD/yx)

617 Trudeau next to Trump is not a good look for Trudeau.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (gC2IV)

To be fair, the only good look for Trudeau would be his feet and ankles sticking out of a barrel of quick-setting cement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2019 12:40 PM (WG6O9)

618 oh bullshit.

The phrasing was perfect.
" They made a big mistake."

Can go either way. They fucked up and have a chance to apologize .

Or they fucked up and should prepare for atomization and bouncing rubble.

Posted by: mikeyG at June 20, 2019 12:41 PM (LL1Be)

619 There's a lot of chauvinism in this idea that it's entirely up to us (The US) if there is a war or not, and Iran is free to do whatever the hell they please without being blamed for "starting the war".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:41 PM (AURKQ)

620 Trudeau looks like like a manchild.

-
M-O-O-N. That spells "diplomacy".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 12:41 PM (+y/Ru)

621 Give me an excuse to get a nice .308 or a .338
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 12:01 PM (N39Ws)

Go mag-fed.

Here's the deal. I've never shot at "just one". Always find 'em in groups. Usually, they'll scatter. But now and then, they'll charge.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 12:03 PM (GEo5Y)

Belt fed, full auto if you can find it. take out whole packs at a time...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 12:41 PM (8D42x)

622 Commercial hog is castrate to gain weight, nothing to do with taste.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 20, 2019 12:42 PM (jsWA8)

623 It looks like the media is set on taking out Biden. So who do they want as the dem nominee and why?

Posted by: josephistan at June 20, 2019 12:42 PM (Izzlo)

624 Senate just added a resolution blocking arm sales to Saudi Arabia
But
Kushner depends on them to stop from going bankrupt
Trump will veto it

Posted by: Kurt at June 20, 2019 12:42 PM (apH+b)

625 anyway if a typical American cannot defend his property why should govt have the ability or sanction to defend theirs?

they have said we cannot defend our homes, our lives, but we are to defend ___? another countries oil? or a drone?

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:42 PM (r/xAU)

626 Deareast Kasie, there are those of us out here in yokel land who actually have some knowledge and internet. Biden named the Senators and a simple search can show us mouth breathers that they were Democrats. You poor dear.
Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2019 12:33 PM (oiNtH)

-----

But was she referring to the "pre THAY ALL SWITCHED SIDES" or to the "post THAY ALL SWITCHED SIDES" theory.
Posted by: fixerupper


They never switched sides. Bless her heart. The Klan of 1870 is the same Klan of Robert Byrd.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 12:43 PM (sRczR)

627 You pick a very select, limited target of value and send a warning. We already changed the alert status and reportedly the ROE's.

I have no doubt whatever happens next to U.S. assets or men will get the hammer. But the problem is the Iranian's see what Trump is doing is weakness, and they're going to take this to the next step. Count on it, I've seen this before.

Until some Iranians head is where his ass used to be, this will escalate.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 12:43 PM (VpIIl)

628 "hmm



Trump saying it's possible that Iran did not want to shoot down that drone in International air, and that it was a "mistake."



hmmmm"


--------------------
I sort of like that.



A public position that it could have been a mistake.



So therefore, if something in Iran goes 'splodey, it wasn't us.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 12:36 PM (cqNba)


Anyone who's ever dealt with a belligerent drunk in a bar knows you don't stand toe to toe with them while they're acting like fools. You step back, be the bigger man, act like a rational adult, and when they make some stupid move and cross YOUR line, you can knock them the F out.

Self defense.


If you go in with all your guns a'blazin', then YOU look like the aggressor.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 12:43 PM (a2xio)

629 Marcus, and Trump could defend with Media, and Progressives control of the propaganda?

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:44 PM (r/xAU)

630 sometimes we just have to absorb the losses, hoping it isn't 'us'

Posted by: willow at June 20, 2019 12:45 PM (r/xAU)

631 noood up

Posted by: josephistan at June 20, 2019 12:46 PM (Izzlo)

632 Thinly veiled anti-Semitic trolling above.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 12:46 PM (a2xio)

633 619 There's a lot of chauvinism in this idea that it's entirely up to us (The US) if there is a war or not, and Iran is free to do whatever the hell they please without being blamed for "starting the war".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 20, 2019 12:41 PM (AURKQ)

There's a lot of this in almost all of the "hate America" rhetoric from people here who like to hate on America. Everything in the whole world is because of something we did. Every economy in every nation, every social policy, every war, every dictator.

Somehow it's something that America did, because the idea of anyone else ANYWHERE making their own decisions or choices is impossible, or having easily seen consequences is impossible.

Taking that away, making the whole world and every tribal clansman innocent of anything they do is profoundly racist.

I think that it ends up in that place because these people aren't interested in the rest of the world, they're only interested in domestic politics, so the only thing that CAN matter is whatever the US did.

Sort of how Climate Change only matters where they can claim people are involved. If people aren't involved it can't be used for political capital.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 12:47 PM (BD/yx)

634 576 This. Just like gun laws. lets make the law abiding citizen a criminal because of sick individuals who don't follow the law.. and I've had bilateral knee replacements thankfully before they started holding back much needed pain relief.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 12:34 PM (OX6sG)


Need an excuse for mass-incarcerations when the crackdown comes, after all.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 20, 2019 12:49 PM (sm6Pk)

635 has Orange Man scared off little faggy boy Trudeu's eyebrow yet?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 20, 2019 12:52 PM (pw+jk)

636 So, they shot down a drone, let's see if they can shoot down a cruise missile...

Posted by: PDT at June 20, 2019 01:01 PM (0dmP2)

637 This may be a stupid question, but what's more expensive: a drone or a missile? If we have some relatively cheap drones, what if we kept Iran busy by sending drones out there until they ran out of missiles. Then we could send a dozen or so more, just for good measure.

Posted by: Steve "Bofa" D'Snutz at June 20, 2019 01:05 PM (SOV+T)

638 Stop buying their Pistachios and sew up all the goats...
Paint samples & their non homosexuals hardest fapped.

Posted by: saf at June 20, 2019 01:11 PM (5IHGB)

639 Trump just announced that "hard to believe downing of the American drone was intentional"
Says " I have a feeling it was a mistake"
This is going to be hard for anyone to spin
Ace ? Want to take a swing st it ??

Posted by: Kurt at June 20, 2019 01:20 PM (apH+b)

640 So what would be good for shooting a feral hog? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had
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Go big, or go home on a stretcher.

Posted by: Feral Hog at June 20, 2019 01:26 PM (3PMqH)

641 Trump just announced that "hard to believe downing of the American drone was intentional"
Says " I have a feeling it was a mistake"
This is going to be hard for anyone to spin
Ace ? Want to take a swing st it ??
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Super easy, barely and inconvenience.

We make like the Iranians just made a mistake. Not escalating not giving the deep state the war they want. They, frustrated we don't take the bait, escalate and give us a legit casus belli against Iran, hoping we will kill the Mullahs and thereby eliminate the main prosecution witnesses against the deep state. We don't. We make a deal with the Mullah's to testify against Obama and friends in exchange for not turning them all in to confetti.

Big tailgate party before the hangings.

You are totally invited Kurt.

Posted by: secretary of pitch meeting at June 20, 2019 01:34 PM (r0eYw)

642 Is the Iranian nuke facility near anything semi-important or populated? If not we just nuke it a few times.
We nuke it a few time just to let everyone freak out a bit and tell us we can't do that. Then we do it again just to get the point across.

Posted by: Southdakotaconservative at June 20, 2019 01:50 PM (syPRf)

643 I was in the Navy during the first Gulf War, and remember the speculation about DARPA doing their Deep Blue act on "kinetic weapons" (aka tungsten telephone poles from space), which would wipe out a medium-sized area (about a city block), leaving absolutely no radiation, and a crater several meters deep... no hint of US involvement, just witness reports of a meteorite strike...
I wonder how far they have come in the past 25+ years...

Posted by: Drumwaster at June 20, 2019 01:58 PM (PKuQK)

644 After having served in Vietnam because of a "Lie" "Gulf of Ton kin" from Johnson and the "Lie" "Weapons of Mass Destruction" of Iraq from Bush, I will be very hesitant to accept anything the government. Including the what the military says on this shoot-down. Really, go to war for a hunk of metal are people idiots or just following a political meme. Either way, no way would I endorse war with such a worthless country. Complete sanctions would result in the collapse of Iran, via actions by its own people and military.

Posted by: hstad at June 20, 2019 02:22 PM (uywSX)

645 If you thought attcking Iraq was a mistake then you should bring all the troops home from the Middle East, now. Americans and the West no longer have the stomach to fight real wars and not just small short conflicts.

Posted by: YatYas at June 20, 2019 02:49 PM (xN9Un)

646
Would be a terrible shame if some of their power plants came under cyber attack. Or even good ol' fashioned sabotage.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 20, 2019 03:14 PM (1hM1d)

647 A little reported incident of 6 or 7 Iranian ships, docked in multiple ports, burning up simultaneously last week may already be a sign of going 'under the radar'.

Posted by: Jim Robbins at June 20, 2019 05:40 PM (C8s5B)

648 242 Two weeks ago John Kerry was seen in Paris talking with Iranian officials. I truly believe he was arranging these provocations with them, in order to open a new front in the Democrat war against Trump.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 20, 2019 11:43 AM (cApiC)

This is treason and a guilty verdict leads to death.

I'm just wishcasting here, I know, but.....
Posted by: Sponge at June 20, 2019 11:44 AM (9gDA7)


Kerry, paying for his traitorous acts?

Sponge, that's some good chit you be smoking!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 20, 2019 07:10 PM (sy5kK)

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