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Mike Pompeo: Iran is "Responsible" for the Attacks on Two Oil Tankers in the Gulf of Oman
- Two tankers were attacked Thursday near the strategic Strait of Hormuz -- the second time in a month that tankers have been seriously damaged in the region and again the U.S. has pointed the finger of blame at Iran.This is going to be an interesting call from Trump. On one hand, he talks up a ferocious game of obliterating enemies in war. On the other hand, he seems to actually be mostly a dove. He does not want to get into foreign wars and he doesn't want to upset the beautiful, terrific economic conditions we have going on here. But he now has to pick one of these impulses or the other. I suppose he could chart some middle path of tactical strikes against a few key Iranian military installations -- but Iran doesn't have to play the moderate course back. Iran could escalate this into full war. So I don't know if there really is any "middle path" here; the middle path will likely lead to the war path. So what is Trump? Is he the dove or the hawk? People say he's a Jacksonian, and avoids war until it cannot be avoided, then he seeks to inflict crushing damage. But is he? Or is he more of a Clintonian "proportional response" type? Or even an Obama "red line" type? We don't really know yet. Iran seems to be guessing he's an Obama-like "red line" type -- all bark, no bite. But I guess we'll see.
Speaking Thursday afternoon in Washington, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said it was, "the assessment of the United States government that the Islamic Republic of Iran is responsible for the attacks that occurred in the gulf of Oman today. This assessment is based on intelligence, the weapons used, the level of expertise needed to execute the operation, recent similar Iranian attacks on shipping and the fact that no proxy group operating in the area has the resources and proficiency to act with such a high degree of sophistication."
Videos of Pompeo's statement and the tankers ablaze below.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:09 PM (tH5fk)
Posted by: Skip at June 13, 2019 06:09 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Skip at June 13, 2019 06:09 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:09 PM (tH5fk)
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at June 13, 2019 06:09 PM (vFE9h)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 13, 2019 06:09 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: rd at June 13, 2019 06:10 PM (EK+Pw)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:10 PM (CI1R7)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:10 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Hikaru at June 13, 2019 06:11 PM (pgXNG)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 13, 2019 06:11 PM (5l6gb)
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:12 PM (tH5fk)
Trump just closed a deal to sell the Saudis a ton of weapons. Use them.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 13, 2019 06:12 PM (PxX58)
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett's Prayer Rug at June 13, 2019 06:12 PM (rRxrm)
So they've already had their One Free Attack -- and their Second Free Attack?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 13, 2019 06:12 PM (M9ntN)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (jUVms)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (b6kHD)
Posted by: Passing Commenter at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (4fmLd)
Posted by: Tuna at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: Skip at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (BbGew)
Yeah, 14 yr old Soph makes a better argument against the global warming hoax than any adult I've ever heard:
https://youtu.be/Z_TopPhLroc?t
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:14 PM (RhlVF)
I see a possible middle way, the GCC countries could finally stand up and take care of their own business.
Trump just closed a deal to sell the Saudis a ton of weapons. Use them.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Yup.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 13, 2019 06:14 PM (M9ntN)
Posted by: Anchovy at June 13, 2019 06:14 PM (srWwQ)
Posted by: The Ayatollah of Rock 'n' Rolla at June 13, 2019 06:14 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2019 06:14 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:15 PM (tH5fk)
Posted by: DXO at June 13, 2019 06:15 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 06:15 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 13, 2019 06:15 PM (qC1Sy)
Posted by: Xander Crews at June 13, 2019 06:15 PM (miXS6)
Apparently there's some little Swedish Girl, Greta Fuckface, or something, who is an international sensation now because she, get this talks to world leaders and shit, and gives speeches on global warming.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:15 PM (RhlVF)
One.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:10 PM (CI1R7)
and from what I understand, their electrical grid is third-rate, on a good day.
their 11th century leadership is feeling the heat.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 06:16 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Skip at June 13, 2019 06:16 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2019 06:16 PM (Wx/+I)
Posted by: Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner at June 13, 2019 06:16 PM (rRxrm)
562 Aaaaahhhhhh.
Now that I no longer need to invoke the "5 o'clock somewhere" rule, a shot-and-a-beer !
To PDT, to Ace, the cob-loggers, and the Moron Horde !
Long life, good health, and prosperity !
Confusion to our enemies !
Victory !
*downs the shot, follows with a long pull from the icy stein*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:10 PM (a5hgv)
*repeats the toast, just in case ...*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:16 PM (a5hgv)
I like this idea. A lot. Give them intelligence and a plan and let them do it. May we could carry out a tailored anti-radar package.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:16 PM (CI1R7)
Jacksonian, and avoids war until it cannot be avoided, then he seeks to
inflict crushing damage.
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We have a few data points to rely on.
Anyone remember when the column of Russian mercenaries began to move on a small force of US troops in Syria?
We wiped them out. We didn't just turn them back, we obliterated them. It caused morale problems within the whole Russian Mercenary community.
Remember when we dropped the largest conventional munition ever devised on some two-bit Taliban bunker? Why'd we do that?
So North Korea (and China and Iran) could watch.
How about that time we smashed half of Assad's remaining air force?
I would expect Trump is issue more threats, Iran to probe, and then something very, very nasty to happen to Iran.
Something like: "If you don't stop by Wednesday next, I'll turn your airfields into freshly-plowed fields."
The strike will happen on Monday.
Because that's how he rolls.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (EgshT)
"It's going to be a little awkward if that limpet mine turns out to be of US or Israeli manufacture.". - - Vox Day
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (owkQl)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (Cus5s)
Do they want war?
Are they willing to risk a limited strike?
Or do they just want big talk but never any action?
Also, how is this going to affect the situation in Hong Kong?
What sort of opportunity does this present for the Chinese?
What if the Chinese were involved in this?
Posted by: Sam at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (YScgw)
Who's flag we're flying on the tankers???
Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (axyOa)
Not the USA. I think Marshal Islands for one, Panama on the other??
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (N39Ws)
I understand she's a descendant of the ancient noble House of Fuckface.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Archer at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (owkQl)
Ha! Told you!
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett's Prayer Rug at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (rRxrm)
Posted by: pissworld at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (sxqdd)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (Mouru)
Iran seems to be guessing he's an Obama-like "red line" type -- all bark, no bite.
I wonder if there is some horse faced a**hole who might be telling them that?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (TAmPV)
They need punishment.
I'm sure they are pretty happy that Obama pulled out of Iraq. We lost over 4,000 soldiers there and asshole gave it away.
Any good oil stocks someone can recommend?
Posted by: David Prince at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (JkygK)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (owkQl)
Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (b6kHD)
The second part of this story is that Abe was in Iran, trying to be a 3rd party negotiator. Apparently, Japan and Iran have good relations.
Er, make that "had" good relations.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (sy5kK)
I also like this since we and the Brits could actually do this in a couple of days. And then don't say a word.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (CI1R7)
I still don't quite comprehend what I just heard from that little kid. Y'all know I'm seldom at a loss for words, but...DAYUM!
BRB, gotta go subscribe to her channel...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (qPr1r)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:19 PM (a5hgv)
Posted by: John horse face Kerry singin you've got a friend at June 13, 2019 06:19 PM (O2RFr)
Apparently there's some little Swedish Girl, Greta Fuckface, or something, who is an international sensation now because she, get this talks to world leaders and shit, and gives speeches on global warming.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics
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And she's supposedly autistic and home-schooled by her SJW parents. In other words exploited to the hilt, soon to be gone like Cindy Sheehan.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 13, 2019 06:19 PM (M9ntN)
Also: some asshole fool judge ruled that the idiotic lawsuit, "young people v. big oil," can go forward to trial, in which the "young people," a.k.a. children pretending not to be advised and directed by adult leftists, are suing oil companies for using fossil fuels knowing it will destroy the young people's planet/future/lives.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:19 PM (RhlVF)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 13, 2019 06:19 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: the official story and narrative from our government at June 13, 2019 06:19 PM (UZZHo)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (owkQl)
Toledo? Cleveland couldn't even pull this off, much less Toledo.
Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2019 06:20 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:20 PM (CI1R7)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 13, 2019 06:20 PM (Sk/5h)
Posted by: Apostate at June 13, 2019 06:20 PM (z2FAZ)
Anyway, still ticked at you morons for not telling me about this sophie girl before now. One debit on your social justice scale.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 13, 2019 06:20 PM (r+sAi)
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There is always the third option of sending James Taylor over to sing a song ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Quarter-Wit aspiring to be Half-Wit at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (wCFAe)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I dint want ya to think I was yellen' at ya.
Posted by: JT at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (+3V6S)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=181&v=etQKLA50xes
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (owkQl)
And with ayatollah Iran ordering children to act as human minesweepers in their war against Iraq, there would be plenty of possible corpses.
It could go on the Israeli model, with 'proportional' counters to attacks on US property, but thus far Iran has only hit foreign flagged vessels.
Militarily wise, KSA and Iran are reasonably evenly matched. KSA will own the skies (excluding Scuds), but Iran has the boots.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (Z4rgH)
Posted by: DXO at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: ShainS -- Quarter-Wit aspiring to be Half-Wit at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (wCFAe)
By missile.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (Mouru)
they might want to check that iranian harbor where about six ships are burning.
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (nFwvY)
Did soph get un-banned on u-toob ?
Yeah, today. But even she doesn't expect to last long. Comments on her latest vids are open, too. Comments were closed on all her vids because leftist pedos kept leaving pedo comments.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (RhlVF)
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (jUVms)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I dint want ya to think I was yellen' at ya.
Posted by: JT at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (+3V6S)
I KNOW! THAT IS SO ANNOYING!
Posted by: BEN ROETHISBERGER at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Skip at June 13, 2019 06:16 PM (BbGew)
You can thank me for that.
Posted by: Joseph Hazelwood and the Exxon Valdez at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Anchovy
nor my son.
I'm with you, anchovy
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: IC at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: ShainS -- Quarter-Wit aspiring to be Half-Wit at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (wCFAe)
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Maybe use the "Slim Pickens" delivery method?
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (qC1Sy)
Iran: No James Taylor. We will stand-down. Do not want.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (u82oZ)
Torpedo attack. Limpet mine. Which? Both? Iran has torpedoes that can attach sticky mines to ships?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (owkQl)
He's right! The jews have trained sharks!
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett's Prayer Rug at June 13, 2019 06:22 PM (rRxrm)
562 Aaaaahhhhhh.
Now that I no longer need to invoke the "5 o'clock somewhere" rule, a shot-and-a-beer !
To PDT, to Ace, the cob-loggers, and the Moron Horde !
Long life, good health, and prosperity !
Confusion to our enemies !
Victory !
*downs the shot, follows with a long pull from the icy stein*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:10 PM (a5hgv)
*repeats the toast, just in case ...*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:16 PM (a5hgv)
Ok, once again and we will know you are serious.
Posted by: Joseph Hazelwood and the Exxon Valdez at June 13, 2019 06:23 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:23 PM (CI1R7)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 06:23 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (owkQl)
Toledo? Cleveland couldn't even pull this off, much less Toledo.
Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2019 06:20 PM (Izzlo)
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Cleveland Steamers
Posted by: What at June 13, 2019 06:23 PM (EK+Pw)
Posted by: t-bird at June 13, 2019 06:23 PM (asM0l)
Soph also re-uploaded the vid that got her banned: "Be Not Afraid" in which she explains her worldview as if she was a muslim.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:24 PM (RhlVF)
Was not the 1988 engagement with Iran called the tanker war
Posted by: Yo! at June 13, 2019 06:24 PM (1XAal)
Posted by: ShainS --
Send them...to the Yoko Pit.
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:24 PM (tH5fk)
Who's flag we're flying on the tankers???
Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2019 06:13 PM (axyOa)
Not the USA. I think Marshal Islands for one, Panama on the other??
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (N39Ws)
Then I'd say that the Marshal Islands and Panama need to avenge their honor.
Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2019 06:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Whatever at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (rRxrm)
Posted by: . at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of the MSM at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (ZqRa6)
https://jcpa.org/mysterious-blazes-on-six-iranian-ships-in-iranian-ports/
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (yQpMk)
It was. It did not take the Iranians long to figure out not to fuck with Ronnie.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (CI1R7)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (rnXGe)
Oddly, he's been very open about this.
Iran is in a vise. They may be trying to provoke a US invasion figuring that Trump will either back down or be dumb enough to do it.
But what if he just bombs them into the stone age and then walks away?
The media will want to do a bunch of "baby milk factory bombed!!!" stories, but the problem is that he can distract them with a single offhand remark.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (cfSRQ)
Like they haven't already? They just aren't calling it that
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (O2RFr)
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so why do we have to get involved here?
Posted by: willow at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (r/xAU)
The second part of this story is that Abe was in Iran, trying to be a 3rd party negotiator. Apparently, Japan and Iran have good relations.
Er, make that "had" good relations.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 06:18 PM (sy5kK)
Makes this attack a little suspicious, no?
Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but you know who else could have pulled this off? Any one of the gulf states who are also, coincidentally, currently proxy cold wars throughout the Middle East and a proxy hot war in Yemen against Iran.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 13, 2019 06:26 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: DXO at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (nzKWW)
This here. But you couldn't get dems to go along without leaking. And if it wasn't by the book authorized, then they would use it to impeach.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 13, 2019 06:26 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: Inogame at June 13, 2019 06:26 PM (uclyB)
Trump ask for an actual declaration of war.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 13, 2019 06:26 PM (GbPPJ)
Was not the 1988 engagement with Iran called the tanker war
Posted by: Yo! at June 13, 2019 06:24 PM (1XAal)
Yes. Operation Earnest Will was the official name for it.
Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2019 06:26 PM (Izzlo)
if Trump takes any steps that can be described as "war" the Dems in the House will probably start impeachment proceedings
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of the MSM at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (ZqRa6)
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Where have you been? They started them a while ago...
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:26 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2019 06:27 PM (ahS0B)
Over 400 tankers hit. Some spectacular footage of that ... somewhere.
Oh, and the Iraqi attack on the USS Stark (FFG-37) in 1987 was part of this. It turned insider Washington from Iraq is an enemy of an enemy to just an enemy.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:27 PM (u82oZ)
https://jcpa.org/mysterious-blazes-on-six-iranian-ships-in-iranian-ports/
Pardon my laughter, I know it's rude...
Posted by: t-bird at June 13, 2019 06:27 PM (asM0l)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (N39Ws)
Then I'd say that the Marshal Islands and Panama need to avenge their honor.
Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2019 06:24 PM
****
Concur.
Not our ballgame.
Yet.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2019 06:27 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:27 PM (CI1R7)
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 06:27 PM (32YRo)
else could have pulled this off? Any one of the gulf states who are
also, coincidentally, currently proxy cold wars throughout the Middle
East and a proxy hot war in Yemen against Iran.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 13, 2019 06:26 PM (GBteo)
With the added benefit of increases oil prices.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:28 PM (rnXGe)
else could have pulled this off? Any one of the gulf states who are
also, coincidentally, currently proxy cold wars throughout the Middle
East and a proxy hot war in Yemen against Iran.
I kind of doubt it's Iran, but I like that we are blaming them...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (O2RFr)
Japanese company owns one of the tankers, which are flagged under Panama and the Marshall Islands
"Today it was Japan, where a company owning one of the affected ships is based ,; the tankers are flagged under Panama and the Marshall Islands, while the cargos we're headed to Taiwan and Singapore."
Sigh.
None of those countries have functioning navies, so I guess it's up to the US Navy to get in there and take care of this shit.
If they don't run aground or into another ship trying to get there.
Posted by: Sharkman, LT, USNR SC (Ret) at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (NoKAc)
Posted by: DXO at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (nzKWW) "
Basically the sock_rat_eez administration's foreign policy in a nutshell.
Well, we would also revive and update the old WW2 Liberator pistol; fit a lot more of those in; and more deniable besides.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (a5hgv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2019 06:27 PM (ahS0B)
You may be on to something there. Kerry seems to like running his own personal foreign policy.
Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (sdi6R)
https://jcpa.org/mysterious-blazes-on-six-iranian-ships-in-iranian-ports/
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (nFwvY)
joosharks with laser beams.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (t6MX/)
We need asteroids of unusual size to fall on Iran, spontaneously.
No idea how we can get a direct hit on a target we do not like with one. Try and try again, I guess.
More deniable than rods from God.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (2DOZq)
And with ayatollah Iran ordering children to act as human minesweepers in their war against Iraq, there would be plenty of possible corpses.
It could go on the Israeli model, with 'proportional' counters to attacks on US property, but thus far Iran has only hit foreign flagged vessels.
Militarily wise, KSA and Iran are reasonably evenly matched. KSA will own the skies (excluding Scuds), but Iran has the boots.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (Z4rgH)
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My money would be on the Persians over the Arabs in a one on one contest. There is a reason they owned the Mideast until Phillip of Macedon and his son Alexander came along.
Posted by: What at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (EK+Pw)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of the MSM at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (ZqRa6)
What a novel idea. I'm surprised they haven't suggested that before.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2019 06:30 PM (Z4rgH)
Trump is very much a gunboat diplomacy kind of guy. No careful occupation, no attempt to build schools, just a lot of BOOM! and "Don't make me do it again."
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:30 PM (cfSRQ)
I can't help feeling that the traitorous man, John Kerry, is behind this somehow. He and the Deep State and Iran working together to try to provoke President Trump
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I bet he's been whispering in Iranian ears that they can help get rid of Trump in 2020 by making life hard for him.
Something like foreign interference in our elections.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 13, 2019 06:30 PM (M9ntN)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:28 PM (rnXGe)
Get the US to fight their battle, while also getting higher oil prices.
Would mbs, for example, really be that bold though? The Qataris? Hmmm
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 13, 2019 06:30 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 13, 2019 06:30 PM (r+sAi)
what are we also responsible for their oil services?
Posted by: willow at June 13, 2019 06:30 PM (r/xAU)
Posted by: Regular joe at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (6/uwW)
Posted by: Joseph Hazelwood and the Exxon Valdez at June 13, 2019 06:23 PM (sy5kK) "
No sooner done than said.
Prosit !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (a5hgv)
Posted by: Max Klinger at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (aKsyK)
You mean like blowing up Jewish community centers in Buenos Aires kind of zero sense, Brian? Planning attacks all over Europe, Brian? Medieval mullahs trying to hold on to power rank somewhere around Norks and meth-amped meerkats on the rationality scale.
And yeah, I think Secretariat is telling them to push Trump to the limit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (CI1R7)
It's obvious that Iran wants the US to attack them for some reason.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (2DOZq)
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Their people are on the brink of open rebellion. They need a distraction.
See also: Argentina, Falkland War.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
This - Obama people have been promoting this confrontation from the get go - selling Iran the soap that if they just stand strong their State Dept stripey pants will make sure they get it all - nuclear status, release of sanctions, etc.
They just could not stand that their Iranian agreement is not being treated as the greatest Obama achievement - so they have to sow discontent
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (32YRo)
treble damages
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (O2RFr)
https://jcpa.org/mysterious-blazes-on-six-iranian-ships-in-iranian-ports/
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (nFwvY)
joosharks with laser beams.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 13, 2019 06:29 PM (t6MX/)
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My money is on high quality Iranian Fire Protection Practices, IOW Inshallah.
Posted by: What at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (EK+Pw)
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so why do we have to get involved here?
Posted by: willow
Japan is constitutionally disallowed from warring outside of their own borders.
Norway? Eh. They can send their whole navy to defend the strait.
Posted by: mikeski at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (P1f+c)
But the truth of all predictions is always in your hands.
Posted by: The Bruce Dickinson at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (U69PR)
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (jUVms)
These are the 20 candidates who qualified for the first 2020 Democratic debate:
Biden
Sanders
Buttigieg
Harris
Warren
O'Rourke
Yang
Booker
Castro
Gabbard
Inslee
Klobuchar
Williamson
De Blasio
Bennet
Delaney
Gillibrand
Hickenlooper
Ryan
Swalwell
This is gonna be an epic sh!t show.
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:25 PM (yQpMk)
Quantity has a quality of its own. Population around 140 million. They can cause much turmoil.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (Z4rgH)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at June 13, 2019 06:33 PM (ZZj8w)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:33 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd
Sometimes I think PDJT is a Moron.
Hello Mr Two Scoops if you reading this.
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:33 PM (tH5fk)
Posted by: Skip at June 13, 2019 06:33 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 06:33 PM (32YRo)
Buenos Aires kind of zero sense, Brian? Planning attacks all over
Europe, Brian? Medieval mullahs trying to hold on to power rank
somewhere around Norks and meth-amped meerkats on the rationality scale.
And yeah, I think Secretariat is telling them to push Trump to the limit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (CI1R7)
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Wasn't there a big reveal this week that Iran was stockpiling weapons to attack the UK while the nuclear deal was pending and British Intel hushed it up on the orders of Theresa May?
I'm sure I saw something to that effect. The Ruling Class is heavily invested in detente with Iran, even though it doesn't involve actual detente, just the Ruling Class getting rich from corrupt deals while Iran continues to beat us up.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:33 PM (cfSRQ)
Buenos Aires kind of zero sense, Brian? Planning attacks all over
Europe, Brian? Medieval mullahs trying to hold on to power rank
somewhere around Norks and meth-amped meerkats on the rationality scale.
And yeah, I think Secretariat is telling them to push Trump to the limit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:31 PM (CI1R7)
Japanese President is in Tehran today on a state visit. Iran isn't blowing up there tankers during that. Come on.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:33 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: geoffb at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (zOpu5)
Posted by: What at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (EK+Pw)
I thought they were Russian.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:13
I thought I heard Japan. While Abe was in Iran meeting with mullahs.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (q9aU5)
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (jUVms)
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (jUVms)
Welcome to Iran, let me blow up a Japanese tanker as a sign of how much I look forward to our productive conversation and mutual cooperation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (0jFNh)
They are two oceans away from us.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Mr Limpet Mine at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (tH5fk)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (CI1R7)
Good brand new 2 minute vid by Gavin McInnes showing how hateful and full of shit leftists are ALL their beliefs. Gavin makes a different point than I, but he's right, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (RhlVF)
Posted by: willow at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (r/xAU)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 13, 2019 06:20 PM (Sk/5h)
You said "https" twice.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (NWiLs)
Oblabla was advising and colluding(!) with the Iranians on how to handle President Trump?
This seems like the cowardly kind of chicken shit that an Obama or his hacks would suggest.
Attack Japanese assets and see if Trump will uphold our defense treaties or not.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (r1/AF)
****
Well. I'm an ol Army guy, last I checked the Japanese and the Norwegians have a sufficient assets (naval and air) to ensure compensation.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (axyOa)
If they do not go aground en route.
The Norwegian Navy has a problem, like our own 7th Fleet.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (RhlVF)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation
"for some reason". Yeah.
The possible motivation for the Islamic Republic to do that, is that they mean what they say when they chant "Death To America". They're trying to pull the US into a war in Iran and/or against Russia and China, and to hell with the Iranian people in that area.
But then, Israel also has a motive for the US to destroy or at least cripple the Islamic Republic. So do several Sunni Arab states.
I'd take a pause before getting into a conflict that seems in everyone's benefit except for, you know, America's.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (ykYG2)
But the truth of all predictions is always in your hands.
Posted by: The Bruce Dickinson at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (U69PR)
Piece of Mind is such an great album
Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke "
This, absolutely.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (a5hgv)
Do you know the payload limit of the X-37?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (u82oZ)
No, but if you hum a few bars...
Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (sdi6R)
This doesn't make sense. If the Japanese prime minister was recently in Iran (or is now). Why would they attack a ship headed to Japan will a full load of oil?
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (jUVms)
Because it's Saudi oil.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:37 PM (jUVms)
They are right next door to our troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Turkey.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:37 PM (CI1R7)
Posted by: DXO at June 13, 2019 06:21 PM (nzKWW)
This
Posted by: clutch at June 13, 2019 06:37 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (TAmPV)
It wasn't oil.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:37 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: garrett at June 13, 2019 06:37 PM (azYka)
@realDonaldTrump
They've been wrong all along!
https://tinyurl.com/y4ze5wo8
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2019 06:37 PM (cF8AT)
a sign of how much I look forward to our productive conversation and
mutual cooperation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (GBteo)
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They attacked our embassy, took its staff hostage and we did...what?
Oh yeah, Jimmeh Carter sent some helicopters that trashed in the desert.
I'm sure Kerry is whispering that Trump will either get mired in an unpopular war or accept humiliating defeat.
The fact that Trump may opt for Door Number Three: "Bomb the shit out of Teheran and walk away to thunderous applause" never occurs to him.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:38 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: willow at June 13, 2019 06:38 PM (r/xAU)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (TAmPV)
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Hence the reason Jackstraw mentioned the weapons we've recently sold to the Saudi's. Got it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 13, 2019 06:38 PM (jUVms)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 13, 2019 06:38 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: JT at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (+3V6S)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (xPl2J)
The average intelligence and morality of the world would go up a fraction.
Can we pardon some Gitmo dudes to do this, or else>
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Par-Kay at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (azYka)
This conspiracy-mongering by Vox Day is where I part ways with him.
It's an odd mental tic from an intelligent and talented guy.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (6igmU)
Posted by: Eromero at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (qBNEP)
He must of sold out to someone.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (xInes)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 06:36 PM (ykYG2)
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What if we sink/seize the entire Iranian Navy/merchant marine?
We can do it. No question we can do it.
What can Iran do then?
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: garrett at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (azYka)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: willow at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (r/xAU)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: alexthechick
Kevin Williamson can't run - he hates everyone but himself - and cheeseburgers...lots and lots of cheeseburgers!
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (0jFNh)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: What at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (EK+Pw)
I haven't followed the story, but if six Iranian ships burned in port on June 7, that's interesting in and of itself.
Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: garrett at June 13, 2019 06:37 PM (azYka)
The potential loss of fine cheeses would be tragic.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2019 06:32 PM (cF8AT)
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Can't think of his name atm - but didn't Marie Harf "leave" Fox to go work on someone's campaign...and he's not even top 20? el oh el
Posted by: jhawk90 at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (cvTdK)
Posted by: Eromero
Whiff of the grape, eh wot?
Posted by: Mr Limpet Mine at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (tH5fk)
I'm also a little disturbed that some doubt Pompeo and instead embrace some borderline JOOO stuff above. Yeah, you did it, so if you think this is an Israeli op, say so. Don't be coy.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (CI1R7)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (32YRo)
****
Tonkin. I'm not buying this for a second
Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (z2W2E)
Though torpedoes CAN be launched by aircraft.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2019 06:42 PM (Z4rgH)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:42 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 13, 2019 06:42 PM (r1/AF)
Posted by: Archer at June 13, 2019 06:42 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 13, 2019 06:43 PM (Dh1wo)
Those Dhows are wooden, and need good hygiene and sound fire prevention methods to not burn up.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:43 PM (u82oZ)
Love,
DEVGRU
Posted by: Marcus T at June 13, 2019 06:43 PM (cTtM/)
The PM met with the Ayatollah.
Maybe one of the other couple dozen power holders in Iran is making a move.
Or maybe the Ayatollah felt slighted.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 13, 2019 06:43 PM (9t0Zz)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (u82oZ)
Wasn't one of the ship headed for Singapore?
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2019 06:43 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2019 06:35 PM (NWiLs)
I like https.
Too bad Pixy don't...
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 13, 2019 06:44 PM (DTX3h)
Nothing like throwing those into the heavy cover, under moonlight. Insane strikes.
Posted by: garrett at June 13, 2019 06:44 PM (azYka)
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at June 13, 2019 06:44 PM (J70i0)
and instead embrace some borderline JOOO stuff above. Yeah, you did it,
so if you think this is an Israeli op, say so. Don't be coy.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (CI1R7)
There are plenty of suspects, Israel being pretty far down my list. Saudi Arabia seems likely. The new Saudi crown prince doesn't seem very sharp. But it could've been anybody over there. Iran seems the least likely.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:44 PM (rnXGe)
The traffic separation lanes are a bitch. Outside those lanes prepare for groundings or collisions.
The US Navy has has a SSN to LPD collision in the lanes, so it's not for beginners.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (u82oZ)
The damages (both "regular" and punitive) are likely *not* covered by Oberlin's insurance:
http://insureblog.blogspot.com/2019/06/oberlin-gets-schooled.html
Posted by: ibguy at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (EHVbt)
Be sure to check us out this month for our feature with David French:
https://tinyurl.com/y4exmbrr
Posted by: The Cuckshed at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (gAq5d)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 13f, 2019 06:20 PM
Not really. Based on the article and comments, Buhr expected to be personally invited to apply for scholarships that were available for months. She and her parents tried calling the counselor instead of just having her set up an appointment between classes.
I don't know if her speech was auditioned like so many schools with 7-8 valedictorians do (eliminating all but two or three), but the self-centered twat decided to bait and switch because she's more important than any of her classmates.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (/+bwe)
Vox Day sure as hell didn't "question" the Moon landing when he was writing games about a Moon colony back in the late 1990s. But he "questions" it now - not because the evidence for it has gotten any worse; but because he (now) hates the US government that. Much.
He also wasn't notably antisemitic until he got into it with Ben Shapiro on the Right and with all manner of assholes in the science-fiction community.
This is, as Mark once put it, the sort of demon that can only be exorcised with prayer.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: jhawk90 at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (cvTdK)
Had to look it up...Seth Moulton.
Good decision Marie...
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (cF8AT)
Ace of Spades.
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Or Reagan. He was the one who launched a limited strike on the Iranian Navy in 1987 after a similar situation.
People forget Reagan was not exactly gun-ho for foreign adventures unless it directly involved hurting the Soviet Union more then the U.S. Hence his limited reaction dealing with provocations in Lebanon, Libya, Iran, etc.
That is called keeping your eye on what matters most, and not being distracted. Hence why we are facing a more militant and powerful China. We spent the last 20 years running around Iraq and Afghanistan while China got rich and militarily more powerful.
Plus we have a second, perhaps bigger problem - the progressive left. Cannot fight a big war when a significant portion of the population is doing what it can to achieve defeat for political purposes.
Posted by: William Eaton at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (MuTTO)
ABC News
@ABC
Stacey Abrams urges Hollywood to "stay and fight" in Georgia amid mounting calls for boycotts over the state's anti-abortion law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (+y/Ru)
We have owed Iran a shitkicking since the Beirut bombing if not since the Embassy attack. Look, I understand why Reagan didn't pound the shit out of them; we didn't want them to become a Soviet client state, but since the USSR imploded, there hasn't really been an excuse.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: ibguy at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (EHVbt)
and instead embrace some borderline JOOO stuff above. Yeah, you did it,
so if you think this is an Israeli op, say so. Don't be coy.
I don't think it is. I think it's the Saudis.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: DaveA at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (FhXTo)
Did you resolve your birth certificate dilemma ?
Posted by: JT at June 13, 2019 06:39 PM (+3V6S)
No, but thanks for the VitalChek tip. That may be helpful.
Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Eromero at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (qBNEP)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (4ErVI)
The Saudis couldn't plan a kid's birthday party.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (zbF2u)
Posted by: G marks the spot at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (+4PAw)
ABC News
@ABC
Stacey Abrams urges Hollywood to "stay and fight" in Georgia amid mounting calls for boycotts over the state's anti-abortion law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2019 06:45 PM (+y/Ru)
They believe she's the real governor, so they might listen.
Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (Izzlo)
The British Indian Army Engineering Center in Bangalore developed bangalore torpedos pre-WWII.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (25Dt7)
We already know everyone is counseling the Iranians to wait Trump out and then they can start scheduling more pallets of cash to be dropped on Iran. Why wouldn't they also get the Iranians to help hasten things along a bit with some brinksmanship?
Posted by: Thatch at June 13, 2019 06:48 PM (v5Cc/)
I've read she's Aspergers, comorbid with severe OCD and anxiety, which causes eating disorders and selective mutism.
Global warming in an obsession with her, and apparently the only way she can eat and speak is to engage in obsessive protest about her obsession. Protest is her version of "stimming".
Yes, she is grossly exploited: her first protest was coordinated through a non-profit in concert with her mother's book release
Posted by: barbarausa at June 13, 2019 06:48 PM (W7IZQ)
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:48 PM (tH5fk)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 13, 2019 06:17 PM (N39Ws)
Their problem then.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at June 13, 2019 06:48 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:40 PM (u82oZ)
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Wait, Iran has some kind of scruple against attacking innocents???
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:48 PM (cfSRQ)
@ABC
Stacey Abrams
This is news? Who the F' cares what that cow says... This is aimed a ABC not you
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:48 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: the official story and narrative from our government at June 13, 2019 06:48 PM (UZZHo)
Looking at you, Mandalay Bay.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at June 13, 2019 06:49 PM (owkQl)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (Mouru)
It appears to have been a shoddy botched job. Magnetic mines attached by divers and at least one didn't explode.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:49 PM (rnXGe)
Zara Spook was pretty good, too. But that Torpedo got them pissed.
Posted by: garrett at June 13, 2019 06:49 PM (azYka)
Posted by: DaveA at June 13, 2019 06:49 PM (FhXTo)
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ABC News
@ABC
BREAKING: Democratic National Committee announces 20 qualifying candidates for first debates.
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Donk Demolition Derby.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2019 06:49 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 13, 2019 06:49 PM (HmZuC)
They believe she's the real governor, so they might listen.
Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (Izzlo)
Let's see if the bloated, gap-toothed insane dolt holds a press conference to announce she's "vetoing" the bill.
Go ahead, you fat piece of excrement. Do it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:49 PM (zBaqJ)
Oh. I guess I made that up. Thanks for actual info.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 13, 2019 06:49 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Arumaito at June 13, 2019 06:50 PM (Y75K9)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 13, 2019 06:50 PM (ju9gW)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 13, 2019 06:50 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:50 PM (O2RFr)
The 2nd Queen Victoria's Own Madras Sappers and Miners was the unit involved. It is a storied regiment, with plenty of battle honours.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:50 PM (u82oZ)
The British Indian Army Engineering Center in Bangalore developed bangalore torpedos pre-WWII.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (u82oZ)
Great old T. Rex song. Or is it Xi Rex now?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:51 PM (zBaqJ)
Saudi intel did it to stir up trouble after the Saudi airport got hit with a cruise missile. They want us to do their dirty work on Iran.
Posted by: Dogstar at June 13, 2019 06:51 PM (QVhd6)
And do what exactly?
Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM (25Dt7)
Rape all of us to death for starters.
Posted by: baby goats at June 13, 2019 06:51 PM (UZZHo)
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Pour encourager les autres sales culs.
Posted by: zombie voltaire at June 13, 2019 06:51 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
No, hanging is not too good for John Kerry.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 06:51 PM (sy5kK)
CNN is Pelosi
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:50 PM (O2RFr)
Pelosi is calling from inside the house!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2019 06:51 PM (4ErVI)
We have a New Celery Douche Bag to add to The List!
Remember "Counselor Troi," the stupid character in Star Wars The Next Generation?
Well, she recently said Republicans have no place in Star Trek fandom.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:51 PM (RhlVF)
Posted by: Eromero at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (qBNEP)
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An EMP attack against CONUS would get a response that would leave the future inhabitants of what we now call "Iran" wondering where all the people went.
And Trump will not hesitate to remind people that Obama gave the Iranians billions of dollars to build the thing. In cash.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (ty7RM)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (u82oZ)
The PM met with the Ayatollah.
Maybe one of the other couple dozen power holders in Iran is making a move.
Or maybe the Ayatollah felt slighted.
Posted by: bonhomme
Or the proxy clowns they sent had no idea where the ship.was headed
Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (25Dt7)
If I was visiting Iran or Iraq, I would be heading for the border right now.
Posted by: rd at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (EK+Pw)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (ty7RM)
The Gay Rainbow Flag, h8tr!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (O2RFr)
****
They didn't. Iran doesn't need or want a war with us but a certain faction in the US sure as Hell wants one with them. And fuck those guys in particular
Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (0jFNh)
I remember a FUPA that could sense things
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics
And she's organizing students walkouts from classes on Friday until something is done about global warming.
For my part, I'm going to guzzle scotch every night until something is done about global warming. Because I'm down with the struggle.
(Am I the only one who suspects young Greta's teachers suggested the walkout to her? Nothing like a four-day work week!)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (YqDXo)
If I was visiting Iran or Iraq, I would be heading for the border right now.
Posted by: rd at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (EK+Pw)
And the tankers were headed to Japan when they hit the mines.
Climb Mount Ho-Lee-Fook-ataka!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (zBaqJ)
Seems unlikely.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (PxX58)
Posted by: baby goats at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (UZZHo)
Well, she recently said Republicans have no place in Star Trek fandom.
Yikes, time is not kind
http://bit.ly/2Kiwrtf
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (yQpMk)
That counts as Pre-WWII.
Still not what I'd call a torpedo, though.
Also I was just riffing on garrett's bass lure.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Archer at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (gmo/4)
And she's organizing students walkouts from classes on Friday until something is done about global warming.
Honey, tell that to china , and India
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:46 PM (yQpMk)
I think having the Demonicrats and the Fake News and Disinformation Bureau pushing to rebuild Iran AND allow all Iranian victims of American aggression to be allowed into this country with mandatory citizenship is a pretty good excuse.
What people that push for war for Americans overlook is that Americans have been programmed to be the "good guys" and help the countries we defeat rebuild. What Americans should be programmed to believe is that we should go in, kick ass, salt the earth of our enemies, then leave them to their own devices. I guarantee you, countries would go out of their way not to fuck with us.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (m79Dg)
Prosit !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (a5hgv)
Climb Mount Ho-Lee-Fook-ataka!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (zBaqJ)
Limpet-type mines are attached by hand.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (rnXGe)
Yikes, time is not kind
http://bit.ly/2Kiwrtf
Posted by: Grump928(C)
In b4 Bander mentions her little titties in DEATH WISH!
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (RhlVF)
Yikes, time is not kind
http://bit.ly/2Kiwrtf
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (yQpMk)
Fugg! I remember wanting to give her a zetz way back when. She looks like an overstuffed condom.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (ykYG2)
And do what exactly?
Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2019 06:47 PM
I wondered about this. Iran seems to be spreading itself a little thin with other conflicts. Plus, their crude oil production was dropping this spring while foreign investment decreased and debt increased.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (/+bwe)
Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (25Dt7)
This. The point was to disrupt shipping, and the destinations of the tankers was secondary.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Its tight - you stay in your ops square unless called to transit and the traffic doesn't need the big eyes to be seen - at night its crazy in the transit lanes. Lot's of folks on the quarterdeck at all times. Not sure my captain slept while we circled our square.
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:56 PM (tH5fk)
On the Holodeck.
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:56 PM (tH5fk)
Not any more. Look at recent pics. Ugh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:56 PM (zBaqJ)
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The Navy Seals are having some problems with Pride Month.
https://bit.ly/2WL9rJR
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2019 06:56 PM (+y/Ru)
Honey, tell that to china , and India
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (O2RFr)
The stupid bint ought to be doing that something is done about Sweden's Muslim infestation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 13, 2019 06:56 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Caliban at June 13, 2019 06:56 PM (QE8X6)
Honey, tell that to china , and India
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM (O2RFr)
Summer weather in Scandinavia is nice. Perfect for walkouts. Just don't let a moose bite your sister.
Posted by: Archer at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: brought to you by Ginger or Mary-Ann at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (qK2aW)
Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (25Dt7)
This. The point was to disrupt shipping, and the destinations of the tankers was secondary.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (wYseH)
The fact that they were headed to Japan while PM Abe was there is suboptimal, n'est ce pas?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (0jFNh)
http://bit.ly/2Kiwrtf
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 06:54 PM
She was NEVER attractive. Tons of makeup and support bras got her through that series. She's not merely plain, she's actively ugly.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (ju9gW)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 06:58 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Jordy at June 13, 2019 06:58 PM (azYka)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 06:58 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: brought to you by Ginger or Mary-Ann at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (qK2aW)
Great old Zappa tune called "Jones Crusher." On Sheik Yerbouti IIRC.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:58 PM (zBaqJ)
Trump ask for an actual declaration of war.
That would make lots of Prog empty heads get all 'splodey.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 13, 2019 06:58 PM (HaL55)
I might care if she wasn't such a forgettable non-entity that we must refer to her character's name to identify her.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 13, 2019 06:58 PM (HmZuC)
Dr Pulaski!
Pulaski wasn't bad when she was younger --kinda like Jane Wyman or that old broad who played Victoria Barkley on that Western.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:58 PM (RhlVF)
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 06:59 PM (nFwvY)
***
Fine by me. Trekkers are pedos
Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 13, 2019 06:59 PM (z2W2E)
Anyone care to explain it to an old?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 13, 2019 06:59 PM (fuK7c)
But Klingons are somehow welcome.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:59 PM (rnXGe)
Well, she recently said Republicans have no place in Star Trek fandom.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:51 PM (RhlVF)
Now that Counselor Troi's fun bags have deflated and she's a washed up actress, she can find work from Soros groups and left leaning causes parroting various Deplorable insults or OrangeManBad narratives.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 13, 2019 06:59 PM (m79Dg)
Posted by: B. Hussein the Frogman at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (Ndje9)
Jacksonian, and avoids war until it cannot be avoided, then he seeks to
inflict crushing damage.
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We have a few data points to rely on.
President Xi, I wanted to personally let you know I just sent 59 cruise missiles to destroy the Syrian air force. Enjoy the 4 layer chocolate cake!
- President Trump
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (sy5kK)
Dr Pulaski!
Pulaski wasn't bad when she was younger --kinda like Jane Wyman or that old broad who played Victoria Barkley on that Western.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:58 PM (RhlVF)
Barbara Stanwyk, who I have a SERIOUS crush on from her younger days as in "Fireball" and "Double Indemnity" and "Meet John Doe."
AND... she is a fellow alumnus of PS 152 in Flatbush!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: barbarausa at June 13, 2019 06:48 PM (W7IZQ) "
So the next step is pimping her out to some of the New Swedes that they've imported ?
Figures.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (a5hgv)
Posted by: Caliban at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (QE8X6)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (oVJmc)
http://bit.ly/2KjGb6i
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (RhlVF)
What I always found funny is that she didn't have a single word of dialogue in that movie let alone a single line.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (tH5fk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (zBaqJ)
Agreed. The optics are bad. But does it really matter where the oil was headed? I don't know maritime law, so maybe the oil isn't owned by the purchaser until it arrives, or something like that.
And even so, the Iranians don't care about optics. They wanted to make a point about who runs Bartertown, and they did. Hopefully they will get smacked in the mouth for their trouble.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (oVJmc)
"Fiddler on the Holo-Deck..."
in 3-D!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: baby goats at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (UZZHo)
us but a certain faction in the US sure as Hell wants one with them. And
fuck those guys in particular
Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 13, 2019 06:53 PM (z2W2E)
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Iran's economy is circling the drain.
Also: They are run by a cult that is waiting for the Twelfth Imam to lead them to global victory.
People who think Iran is playing some rational game are just as misguided as Obama in thinking they are 'reasonable and responsible potential partners for peace.'
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (tH5fk)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM (a5hgv)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM (HmZuC)
Posted by: capt. picard at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM (Dh1wo)
Never ever cared for Marina Sirtis. Besides playing Counselor Yenta.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (oVJmc)
She had some googleable scenes in the Wicked Lady and Blind Date. Hint.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: filbert at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM (Lz9fr)
And even so, the Iranians don't care about optics. They wanted to make a point about who runs Bartertown, and they did. Hopefully they will get smacked in the mouth for their trouble.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (wYseH)
Agreed. It is salient in the fact that Trump just met with Abe and then Abe turns around and meets with an enemy. Hope Abe "gezunt" learns a lesson and the Iranians get a strong whack on the knuckles.
Or the yarbles.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:03 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: brought to you by Ginger or Mary-Ann at June 13, 2019 06:57 PM (qK2aW)
Susan Ivanova.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 13, 2019 07:03 PM (DTX3h)
Dude was a sleaze by most accounts.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 07:03 PM (oVJmc)
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The Navy Seals are having some problems with Pride Month.
https://bit.ly/2WL9rJR
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2019 06:56 PM (+y/Ru)
I'd hate to be a student at th University of Hawaii. Could never wear any of the school emblems / mascot apparel.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 07:03 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (fuK7c)
With Rachael Maddow as moderator no less
Posted by: It's me donna at June 13, 2019 06:34 PM (O2RFr)
The drinking games for viewers will be legendary.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (sy5kK)
Dude was a sleaze by most accounts.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 07:03 PM (oVJmc)
At this point, considering the Left and their Feminazi divisions, who cares?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (zBaqJ)
Red Sea, Yemen, or something. Localized jamming on all frequencies. Send in Delta Force.
One survivor for questioning. Scoop up all the intel, computers, etc.
Question and kill the survivor. All the bodies are fed to sharks.
Most importantly, say nothing. Tell no one. Give the Iranians fear.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (u82oZ)
Who benefits?
Posted by: filbert at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM (Lz9fr)
Bahhaha. Bahhaha! BAH!
Posted by: baby goats at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (UZZHo)
On the Holodeck.
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 06:56 PM (tH5fk)
Not any more. Look at recent pics. Ugh.
she occasionally shows up on NCIS as the head of the Mossad. she now has an "i smoked way too many cigarettes" voice.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 13, 2019 07:05 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (wYseH)
I have a feeling it's more nefarious than that . They are inviting an attack.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 07:05 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM
If a voice alone could be made flesh I would nail hers! She was made for radio.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 13, 2019 07:05 PM (ju9gW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 06:55 PM (zBaqJ)
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I love the Yiddish.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 07:05 PM (cfSRQ)
But no. He had to point fingers at Iran. Did Pompeo go rogue or is this part of a greater strategery?
My question is "Cui bono" ?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at June 13, 2019 07:05 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 13, 2019 07:06 PM (HmZuC)
/our baby goat
Posted by: baby goats at June 13, 2019 07:06 PM (UZZHo)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 07:05 PM (2DOZq)
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Why not?
Collapsing birth rate, collapsing economy, long-term drought and water mismanagement is turning the country into a desert, and now we've shut off almost all oil sales.
They'd rather fight now then later.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 07:06 PM (cfSRQ)
Dude was a sleaze by most accounts.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 07:03 PM (oVJmc)
At this point, considering the Left and their Feminazi divisions, who cares?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (zBaqJ)
Zactly.
The more bad things that happen to Democrat scum, the happier I am.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (+4oNv)
Sonny Bono?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (fuK7c)
That are funny, mon cher.
Posted by: Caliban at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (QE8X6)
Well, she recently said Republicans have no place in Star Trek fandom.
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The Star Trek universe is basically a fascist military dictatorship portrayed as an utopia. So I guess she's right.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 13, 2019 07:06 PM (HmZuC)
Um . . .
Posted by: filbert at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (Lz9fr)
dude deserves a Medal of Freedom for the costumes he had them wear
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (nFwvY)
The neocons dragged the US into war in Iraq and they've been trying to get its back us back into the region ever since, so excuse me if I choose to exercise extreme skepticism on this.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (nu45M)
and instead embrace some borderline JOOO stuff above. Yeah, you did it,
so if you think this is an Israeli op, say so. Don't be coy.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2019 06:41 PM (CI1R7)
There are plenty of suspects, Israel being pretty far down my list. Saudi Arabia seems likely. The new Saudi crown prince doesn't seem very sharp. But it could've been anybody over there. Iran seems the least likely.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 13, 2019 06:44 PM (rnXGe)
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I don't mistrust Secretary Pompeo.
I mistrust the CIA. The same CIA that missed every major foreign affair happening in the last 50 years. The same CIA that was spying on US Citizen Trump.
That miserable failure of a CIA. Those people should be mistrusted.
Posted by: rd at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (EK+Pw)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Cheri at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (oiNtH)
***
Because they are nutty twelves I believe if they wanted to blow up ships in the gulf none of those sailors would have lived to be rescued
Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 13, 2019 07:08 PM (z2W2E)
Since former Sec State John F'ing Kerry seems to be advising the Iranian regime on how to mess with the US in general and Trump in particular, maybe it is time to haul Kerry down to GTO and waterboard some answers from him.
Kerry might as well be treated as a co-conspirator.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at June 13, 2019 07:08 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Eromero at June 13, 2019 07:08 PM (qBNEP)
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 07:08 PM (32YRo)
Could be but since the thread is also talking nerd
IT's A TRAP !
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 07:09 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 07:09 PM (ykYG2)
It was [redacted].
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Hullabaloser at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (I6r+e)
Remember the "blank check"...
https://tinyurl.com/y5ypuwmm
Posted by: William Eaton at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (4ZE6o)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (yQpMk)
Don't do anything. It's a trap!
Unless and until American assets are attacked or seriously threatened stay out of it.
We don't need their oil anymore.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (JUOKG)
dude deserves a Medal of Freedom for the costumes he had them wear
Posted by: x at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (nFwvY)
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Mini-skirt sand go-go boots as duty uniform.
Regularly slept with females seeking roles. Married Nurse Chapel.
The guy was a player, no question.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (cfSRQ)
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Well, I am a Frog who was ass-fucked at an English "public" school until I learned to speak in received pronunciation so of course I'm a Red!
Posted by: capt. picard at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2019 06:52 PM (25Dt7)
Its possible. The ships, though owned by companies in Norway and japan were both flying flags of convenience (Marshall islands and panama iirc), so maybe the splodey people just decided to pick to random ships to fuck with international shipping.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 13, 2019 07:11 PM (GBteo)
Never ever cared for Marina Sirtis. Besides playing Counselor Yenta.
Yeah, she was pretty dense and all new-agey and shit. But back in the day I'da hit that like the Hammer of Thor. Luwaxana would've felt it telepathically and needed a cigarette afterwards herself.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 13, 2019 07:11 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 13, 2019 07:02 PM
If a voice alone could be made flesh I would nail hers! She was made for radio.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 13, 2019 07:05 PM (ju9gW)
Alison Steele, "the Night Bird," WNEW-FM circa 1976 or so.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:11 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: rd
No one oversees them, really, an entity all to themselves - they are free to decide which country they back - US, Iran, Turkey, afuc
ckistanistan? who knows - they seem to have become an island all to themselves - time to dismantle...
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 07:12 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM (4ZE6o)
There one was a man from Norway,
who got his balls caught in a doorway...
I forgot the rest. Please advise, if possible.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:12 PM (zBaqJ)
William R. Forstchen. Fiction regarding what COULD result from a
well-planned EMP attack.
Posted by: Eromero at June 13, 2019 07:08 PM
EMP attacks are a theory. The Russians invested heavily in weapons specifically designed for EMP attacks during the arms race of the 1960s and then quit. They did extensive testing for nearly a decade and stopped the program without deploying any weapons.
That tells me that the effects of EMP weapons are not what we are lead to believe they are.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 13, 2019 07:13 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
which is why obama insisted on trying to make sure the US could NEVER become energy independent.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 13, 2019 07:13 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2019 07:13 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2019 07:13 PM (WaxcS)
Posted by: monkey at June 13, 2019 07:14 PM (LZFcA)
Posted by: Eromero at June 13, 2019 07:08 PM (qBNEP)
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Meh. Studied the problem.
Here's the thing: Our CAGs and overeas assets would be free to retailiate.
And oh, would they!
Lots of 'hardening' going on these days. For those who missed it, I had my first rifle qualification in 12 years (!) last weekend. Someone is suddenly taking military readiness seriously.
Hint: it wasn't Obama.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 07:14 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 07:14 PM (tH5fk)
That tells me that the effects of EMP weapons are not what we are lead to believe they are.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 13, 2019 07:13 PM (JUOKG)
And it seems that every other week I see articles, especially (unfortunately) in the Washington Free Beacon warning of our vulnerability to same.
Bill Gertz is always at eleventy-leven hair-on-fire with the EMP stuff.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:14 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:14 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2019 07:13 PM (NWiLs)
Robert Taylor, Deborah Kerr.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (oVJmc)
Barbara Stanwyk, who I have a SERIOUS crush on from her younger days as in "Fireball" and "Double Indemnity" and "Meet John Doe."
AND... she is a fellow alumnus of PS 152 in Flatbush!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:00 PM (zBaqJ)
She was also a serious political conservative. Of course, that was back when you could be conservative and still have a career in Hollywood.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (WJy0R)
Macy's has gone SJW.
Father's Day image is transgender with a mixed race child.
https://www.macys.com/
Posted by: shibumi at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (sktRI)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (Mouru)
Hmm. She appears to have been artistically nude in three movies.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:14 PM (u82oZ)
Any split beaver shots with a hint of early morning dew?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2019 07:13 PM (NWiLs)
Never heard of him.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 13, 2019 07:16 PM (+4oNv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2019 07:16 PM (ahS0B)
Red Sea, Yemen, or something. Localized jamming on all frequencies. Send in Delta Force.
One survivor for questioning. Scoop up all the intel, computers, etc.
Question and kill the survivor. All the bodies are fed to sharks.
Most importantly, say nothing. Tell no one. Give the Iranians fear.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (u82oZ)
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Ahmed! Ahmed!
Has anyone seen Ahmed recently?
Posted by: Mullahs at June 13, 2019 07:16 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2019 07:16 PM (WaxcS)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2019 07:13 PM (NWiLs)
Ecce, homo.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (Mouru)
"Icky homo? H8tr!"
- - Mayor Buttmunch
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:16 PM (zBaqJ)
Reminder: the Romans figured prostitutes and actors to be even lower status than hoboes.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 07:16 PM (ykYG2)
Pussy-whipped to hell and back, even by his five-year-old.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
That's what he was there for. Worf was a racial stereotype, not a character.
His whole job was to get punched across the bridge by the bad guy, so we'd all go "wow, the bad guy just one-shotted a Klingon. He must be badass."
And to show that Troi's talk-it-out was always the superior solution to brute force. The Klingon way never worked.
Posted by: mikeski at June 13, 2019 07:16 PM (P1f+c)
Prior calumnies notwithstanding, I am not familiar with Ms. Sirtis.
My reference materials say four.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 13, 2019 07:17 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: baby goats at June 13, 2019 07:17 PM (UZZHo)
The only thing more fungible than money is oil.
There's a $/bbl limit on a lot of planet wide good things including Trump 2020 winning
Posted by: DaveA at June 13, 2019 07:17 PM (FhXTo)
Ted Koppel wrote a book, "Lights Out", over it.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at June 13, 2019 07:17 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, cultural critic at June 13, 2019 07:17 PM (Z216Q)
Bill Gertz is always at eleventy-leven hair-on-fire with the EMP stuff.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:14 PM (zBaqJ)
I'm no EMP expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.
Seems like there should be more important things to worry about.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 13, 2019 07:18 PM (+4oNv)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 07:05 PM (2DOZq)
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Why not?
Collapsing birth rate, collapsing economy, long-term drought and water mismanagement is turning the country into a desert, and now we've shut off almost all oil sales.
They'd rather fight now then later.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 07:06 PM (cfSRQ)
Or, they could join the 21st century and quit being religious fanatic shitheads.
Or, maybe not.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 07:18 PM (sy5kK)
For all the people declaring "not my [relative X] in the military." Shut up. Seriously. It's not your call. You do not get to decide whether, when, where, or how your precious baby of a soldier/marine/sailor/airman serves the country.
I hated this attitude when I was an active duty soldier, and I find it even more obnoxious now that I'm older because I recognize it not as touching concern, but as a power trip. YOU get to decide what a soldier's life is worth. YOU get to declare what righteous cause you'll order your loved one to war, and get to damn others who disagree because you claim moral authority. It's SJWism for the Right. Say hello to Cindy Sheehan.
It's a ridiculous, toxic attitude that cheapens their service for the sake of your ego and posturing. And don't lie that it isn't about ego and posturing. That's why you're repeatedly making these declarations on a social forum with your friends for weeks, instead of writing your Congressman or lobbying leadership. Hell, you don't even make an attempt to genuinely understand the situation; "It's not our problem!" you scream, ignoring that Japan and the Marshall Islands are both American military allies. "Choking off 2/3 of the world's oil supply is just fine. The fact that this is being done to force my country into allowing Iranian nuclear armament is A-OK. Just don't send my precious baby into harm's way."
They're soldiers, not babies. And soldiers sign up for the country, not for a particular cause or conflict. We are a form of currency spent on national objectives. And if national leadership decides it's time to invade Canada (again), then we will invade Canada and do so proudly and professionally.
Jeeze. It's bad enough when helicopter parents and their ilk do this crap with coaches. Who does it for grown adults in the friggin' military?
I'm not sticking around for the hate comments. But be aware that your ill-informed, selfish, childish attitude is recognized and unappreciated by the service members on whose behalf you pretend to speak.
Posted by: Apostate at June 13, 2019 07:19 PM (z2FAZ)
I do not worry about EMP. Did two at-sea tests as Test Director with the world's only seagoing EMP simulator (EMPRESS II; IX 513).
Set a world's record in a few shots. Even Google does not have the reports or magazines I wrote articles in.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:19 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)
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Deborah Kerr.
Now that was someone who could get the engine started.
It's not pure looks, but the vulnerability she could project. Hard to explain, and impossible to look away from her on the screen.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 07:19 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, cultural critic at June 13, 2019 07:17 PM (Z216Q)
50/50 he challenges Trump in a primary. Meh. His handlers will order him to stay in the Senate to sabotage the second term agenda.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:19 PM (zBaqJ)
The US should give warning to all foreign shipping enterinf Iranian harbors that they have x amount of days to depart or risk be sunk by mines. Then deploy air launched mines to close every Iranian controlled port or harbor.
Also kindly sink all Iranian minesweepers in port.
Gonna be hard to sell Iranian oil to France and China with the ports shut down.
Posted by: Nevyan at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (3SWyn)
g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:11 PM (zBaqJ)
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I think I Smoked my first weed listening to her Show. On a campout with the Scouts.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (EZebt)
Should it be Iran, eliminate their navy.
Then send everyone out for lunch.
Posted by: jwest at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (/roJx)
Posted by: IrishEi at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (NtglE)
Very cool. Thanks for that insight, sir!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (zBaqJ)
I mistrust the CIA. The same CIA that missed every major foreign affair happening in the last 50 years. The same CIA that was spying on US Citizen Trump.
That miserable failure of a CIA. Those people should be mistrusted.
Posted by: rd at June 13, 2019 07:07 PM (EK+Pw)
you have no reason to think this way.
Posted by: John Brennan at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (sy5kK)
Well then thank you for stopping by. Discussions are always so much more delightful when one states and flounces.
You are going to leave the Danish, right?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (fuK7c)
Mitt Romney is a useless POS
Posted by: Huck Follywood, cultural critic at June 13, 2019 07:17 PM (Z216Q)
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BREAKING NEWS FROM 2012
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 13, 2019 07:20 PM (cfSRQ)
He had a character on Deep Space Nine. And, there were like four episodes on TNG where the writers developed something of an arc for him. Those were the episodes where Worf gets discommodated / discommended because of Imperial politics.
But then Paramount ruined it by releasing an actual video collection titled "return to grace". HEY LOOK WE DID TOO GIVE WORF AN ARC.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 07:21 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd
Kerr was quite the actress - see her in Black Orchid - an unsung but great movie - won Oscar for best cinematography in the late 40's
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 07:21 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, cultural critic at June 13, 2019 07:17 PM (Z216Q)
50/50 he challenges Trump in a primary. Meh. His handlers will order him to stay in the Senate to sabotage the second term agenda.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2019 07:19 PM (zBaqJ)
I think he'd have declared already. More likely he's positioning for 2024 as the "Return the Republicans to 'Sanity'" candidate.
Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2019 07:21 PM (WaxcS)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 13, 2019 07:22 PM (EZebt)
Red Sea, Yemen, or something. Localized jamming on all frequencies. Send in Delta Force.
One survivor for questioning. Scoop up all the intel, computers, etc.
Question and kill the survivor. All the bodies are fed to sharks.
Most importantly, say nothing. Tell no one. Give the Iranians fear.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (u82oZ) "
This.
Repeatedly.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2019 07:23 PM (a5hgv)
444 "359 I would find an isolated Al Qud force somewhere.
Red Sea, Yemen, or something. Localized jamming on all frequencies. Send in Delta Force.
One survivor for questioning. Scoop up all the intel, computers, etc.
Question and kill the survivor. All the bodies are fed to sharks.
Most importantly, say nothing. Tell no one. Give the Iranians fear.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2019 07:04 PM (u82oZ) "
This.
Repeatedly.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting
All of Iran's refineries just burn to the ground, nothing on radar, no craters, no cool press conference, nothing.
Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2019 07:24 PM (25Dt7)
I listened to her interview Patrick Moraz and I would have sworn she was going to fuck him right in the studio.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 07:25 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 07:25 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Common Tater at June 13, 2019 07:27 PM (6mPBH)
"The attacks were carried out using X weapons, fired by Y forces, commanded by Z."
Let's not start bombing stuff until we know what X, Y and Z are, please.
Posted by: gp, aka Mr. Tact at June 13, 2019 07:27 PM (mk9aG)
I'm not sticking around for the hate comments. But be aware that your ill-informed, selfish, childish attitude is recognized and unappreciated by the service members on whose behalf you pretend to speak.
Posted by: Apostate at June 13, 2019 07:19 PM (z2FAZ)
good thing you left.
nurse just had her oldest join the USMC last month.
nurse can kill you over one hundred ways, with drugs, or a well placed shiv (designed by bluebell, of course) with her medical knowledge.
At least 50 of those ways very slowly and deliberately, while eating snacks and drinking Sierra Nevada Torpedos.
while smiling.
the smiling is the last thing you will remember.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2019 07:30 PM (sy5kK)
That's rich.
Rich I say.
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2019 07:01 PM (tH5fk)
OK, fine. Guess I won't be.
Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2019 07:30 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 13, 2019 07:32 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2019 07:10 PM
Dude. Phrasing.
Posted by: The Dog at June 13, 2019 07:32 PM (COzlW)
Posted by: Boswell at June 13, 2019 07:33 PM (32YRo)
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I think you make a good point.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 13, 2019 07:22 PM (EZebt)
Agree
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 13, 2019 07:38 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: ron n. at June 13, 2019 07:50 PM (om5HK)
Hmmm, wonder what Shatner thinks of this?
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 13, 2019 07:51 PM (myjNJ)
Posted by: Crimso at June 13, 2019 08:46 PM (uCLNU)
They just proved they have technology and the will to sink an oil tanker should the chose.
It will be Gulf Cooperative Council which responds with military force. We will assist but will not be the vangaurd.
We no longer have a reason to protect these sources of oil.
We do have many reasons to assist the non theocratic apocalypse seeking governments.
Posted by: Parker Lonbaugh at June 13, 2019 09:37 PM (IoIaQ)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2019 09:41 PM (ykYG2)
No need for a single US life to be lost here.
Posted by: Rbastid at June 14, 2019 12:11 AM (dg723)
Start convoying tankers through the Straits of Hormuz ASAP and publicly announce new Rules of Engagement: any attacks will be met with an armed response even if the attacker is not in international waters. If there is another attack on a tanker, destroy anything even vaguely looking like an attacker. Let the Iranians escalate from there if they choose to do so. We can take next steps from the main body of our fleet (carriers should be outside of the Persian Gulf) and from Saudi and UAE air bases. These would be to destroy Iranian air and naval bases in the area of the Straits.
Lean even harder on the international banking system to stop transactions with the Iranians. Debar some companies who are selling to Iran from the US financial/banking system and from doing business with in the United States; make sure the Japanese, Indians, etc do the same thing. I am sure we could do this to a couple of mid-sized German companies, making it clear to other German, French, etc they would be next. Let the Chinese know quietly that we may have to do it to some of their companies.
Don't get involved in a ground war against Iran. This country will not support such a thing and it would be too costly in lives and treasure.
Posted by: jamesmadison501 at June 14, 2019 02:23 AM (ryESB)
Posted by: I am not corey Booker at June 14, 2019 02:56 AM (nRj4F)
Iran is a big country with lots of vulnerable infrastructure. Just sayin' that this incident could cause some blow-back. Deniable of course, but don't think for a minute this hasn't been accounted for.
Posted by: Exurban Doug at June 14, 2019 10:40 AM (P1woK)
Posted by: Ray at June 14, 2019 12:46 PM (AVxHd)
Posted by: obsidian at June 14, 2019 01:50 PM (7+yqP)
> On the other hand, he seems to actually be mostly a dove. He does not want to get into foreign wars and he doesn't want to upset the beautiful, terrific economic conditions we have going on here.
> But he now has to pick one of these impulses or the other.
Looks like, either way it goes, Ace, you're positioned to criticize his policy.
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