Leil Leibovitz: How Virtuous Are the NeverTrump Virtue-Signalers, Really?

This is a flamethrower of an article. Highly recommended.

Now that [the Russia Hoax that the NeverTrumpers pushed so hard] has been thoroughly investigated and discredited, it seems fair to ask: Is championing a loony and deeply corrosive conspiracy theory proof of anyone’s superior virtue? The fact that these accusations were false implies that the Never Trumpers who made them early and often were among the political pyromaniacs, and are therefore deserving of the very obloquy that they heaped on Trump [for allegedly poisoning public discourse]. And what about people like Carter Page, a blameless ex-Navy officer who was defamed as an agent of a shadowy, ever-expanding conspiracy headquartered in Moscow?
Conspiracy-mongering doesn’t seem like much of a public virtue. Certainly, the Never Trumpers should have known better than to join in the massive publicity campaign around a "dossier" supposedly compiled by a former British intelligence officer rehashing third-hand hearsay and paid for by Hillary Clinton’s campaign. You can still find many faults with Donald Trump’s behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment, without buying in to some moronic ghost story about an orange-hued traitor who seized the highest office in the land with the help of Vladimir Putin’s social media goons. All that should go without saying, especially for people who ostensibly devote their lives to elevating and enriching the tone of our public discourse.
It is therefore particularly strange to find that David French lent his considerable conservative credibility to the Russiagate lunacy....
It is true that French took care to sound unfailingly fair, a lone voice for reason in a political reality inflamed by lunatics left and right. The thing he was being reasonable about, however, was an FBI investigation that emerged out of a blatant politically motivated forgery. Now, it’s perfectly plausible that French was carrying on his arguments in good faith, even when overwhelming evidence to the contrary was always there for a slightly more curious or skeptical journalist to discover. What's disturbing, from the public virtue standpoint, is that French has yet to admit his own failings, which are compounded by his less-than-courageous misrepresentations of what he actually wrote: In his reply to Ahmari, he strongly denied he had promoted the collusion story, a point of view that’s difficult to defend when your byline appears on stories like "There Is Now Evidence That Senior Trump Officials Attempted to Collude with Russia."
French and the other self-appointed guardians of civility, then, should do us all a favor and drop the civic virtue act.

Like I said, read it in full.

The excellent Julie Kelly, Scourge of Cruise Ship Swabbies, also questions David French's recent claims that he was never a propagator of the Hillary-Clinton information operation.

French claimed that he did not promote the Russian election collusion hoax, as Ahmari stated in his piece. That is patently and provably false.
Time and again, French legitimized the FBI's investigation into the Trump campaign for alleged collusion with the Kremlin, frequently cobbling together a disparate array of "contacts" and meetings as evidence to justify the probe. He downplayed the political origins of the Steele dossier. He repeatedly and willfully omits key details about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting, overlooking the fact that the meeting with Don Jr. included Russian lobbyists who were working with Fusion GPS chief Glenn Simpson on behalf of a Russian tycoon at the time.
In March 2017, French detailed all the reasons Americans should be suspicious about collusion and even suggested that "we can never really know" whether the Russians helped elect Trump. French ridiculed the "Conspiracy Theory Right" for believing the collusion scheme was based on false premises manufactured by partisan bureaucrats in the Obama Administration to sabotage Trump. "Who needs [Russia Today] when you have got Sean Hannity?" French joked to MSNBC’s Chuck Todd in May 2018.
French outrageously demanded that Representative Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the then-chairman of the House Intelligence Committee who was exposing the real scandal, resign his post. "If Nunes steps down as chairman, he can quickly transition from part of the problem to part of the solution," he wrote as Democrats seeded a bogus ethics charge against Nunes.
While he criticized the Nunes memo for failing to make the case (it did) on how the FBI misled the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, French defended a counter memo--now completely discredited--authored by Nunes' nemesis, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) To date, French has not written or tweeted one critical word about Schiff, despite his egregious lies to the American public and to Congress about proof of Russian collusion.
For more than two years, French aided the Left in promoting the now disproven election collusion hoax in order to damage Donald Trump; to say otherwise is simply untrue.

Another read-the-whole-thing recommendation on that.

The NeverTrumpers have a certain NPC script wherein they resort to incoherent spluttering when confronted with their own eager volunteerism in Hillary Clinton's/Sydney Blumenthal's owned-and-operated disinformation.

This idiot exemplifies that NPC script:

I just skimmed those pieces by French. I bet he still stands by almost every word of them. If I had written them, I would stand by them. They all remain accurate and insightful assessments. Every one.
— Quin Hillyer (@QuinHillyer) June 4, 2019

A friend sums up the NeverTrumper position on their past support of the Russiagate Conspiracy Theory: We never once endorsed the Russiagate Conspiracy Theory, and oh, by the way, our endorsement of the Russiagate Conspiracy Theory was just and proper and will be vindicated by future historians.

They all do this. Jonah Goldberg and David French repeatedly deny their own activities on behalf of Sydney Blumenthal's conspiracy-mongering, but each and every time a leftist blows false life into the Conspiracy Theory corpse again, they're both on board for a Second Look at the Conspiracy Theory.

And then right back to denying they were ever believers in the conspiracy theory in the first place.

They're good people, though. Very virtuous. Very honest.

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— Will Chamberlain 🇺🇸 (@willchamberlain) June 1, 2019

Are Apologies and/or Resignations Called For?

You can add Noah Rothman to that list. On the radio in Chicago today he said there is no evidence that the cultural left is winning on college campuses. No evidence. Seriously. Those were his exact words.
— Warner Todd Huston (@warnerthuston) June 5, 2019

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:08 PM

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1 Wow, never trumper's; never heard of 'em

Posted by: zeera new book, link in nic at June 05, 2019 02:09 PM (T9rmq)

2 so much content

Posted by: Enlightened Idiot at June 05, 2019 02:10 PM (z2xIo)

3 And first like a boss.

Posted by: zeera new book, link in nic at June 05, 2019 02:10 PM (T9rmq)

4 top 5

looks like a good movie...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 05, 2019 02:10 PM (8D42x)

5 Shroedinger's cat type stuff.

Posted by: navybrat, paddling like mad at June 05, 2019 02:10 PM (w7KSn)

6 obloquy - new word for me:
strong public criticism or verbal abuse.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2019 02:11 PM (r+sAi)

7 reading the article, shorter first impression...should've said "the progs will get you fired, doxed, and swatted, and maybe beat up if you disagree with their insanity"

I would add "and the right will do nothing to protect you"

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 05, 2019 02:11 PM (JziUy)

8 Build a bridge out of david french!

Posted by: josephistan at June 05, 2019 02:11 PM (7HtZB)

9 he said there is no evidence that the cultural left is winning on college campuses

Well, he's partially correct. They've already won.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 05, 2019 02:11 PM (EgshT)

10 Nood posted below

Posted by: zeera new book, link in nic at June 05, 2019 02:12 PM (T9rmq)

11 French responded to Raheem Kassam's article this morning...with another Male on Male Flirt Tweet...something about Charles Cooke firing him already for thinking the Beatles are overrated *MAN-GIGGLE*.

He's like a cuck AI that is only programmed to tweet the same three things over and over and over.

Posted by: El Kabong at June 05, 2019 02:12 PM (datdl)

12 no one:

no one else:

American Corporations: "yasss kween slay, we are all gay and fabbbbualous this June"

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 05, 2019 02:12 PM (JziUy)

13 Their devotion to hating OrangeMan makes them dumb and forgetful.

They deserve every ounce of ridicule.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2019 02:12 PM (cXV7n)

14 Willowed on my term to use for the opposite of Butterface. Spiderbody. I want credit when it become common jargon.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:13 PM (A3edJ)

15 It occurs to me that unless you have a virtue ethics, "virtue" signaling really just means support for whatever outcome you prefer.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 05, 2019 02:13 PM (KUaJL)

16 So, I can nominate myself for a Pulitzer for 50 bucks?

Cool. Do I actually have to write something though? Maybe Jonah the Whale knows...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:13 PM (O8WFE)

17 NRO may have destroyed conservatism...but they have been the tip of the spear on whether a hot dog is a sandwich.

Posted by: El Kabong at June 05, 2019 02:13 PM (datdl)

18 The Pharisees thought they were especially virtuous. Look how loudly they would pray in public.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:14 PM (hLRSq)

19 French, Goldberg, and all the rest are just Grooms of the Stool for their oligarchic masters.....

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:14 PM (xl2Wl)

20
Bears repeating:

Coup Cucks Clan

Posted by: fixerupper at June 05, 2019 02:14 PM (8XRCm)

21 You can add Noah Rothman to that list. On the radio in Chicago today he said there is no evidence that the cultural left is winning on college campuses. No evidence. Seriously. Those were his exact words.

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Noah is a serious person.

Just ask him. He'll tell you so.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:14 PM (9cans)

22 Long post. Much word quantity.

Give Comment before word consume.

Posted by: Shogun Pikachu - Keeping Japan SJW free at June 05, 2019 02:14 PM (323tT)

23 13 Their devotion to hating OrangeMan makes them dumb and forgetful.

They deserve every ounce of ridicule.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2019 02:12 PM (cXV7n)

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They cannot be wrong about anything. It's not in their constitution, which is living.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:14 PM (9cans)

24 I've tweeted to French directly on several occasions:

"Hey, if you read a couple of books, Bongino's SpyGate and Jarrett's The Russia Hoax, you will discover actual 'facts' that you can use to infirm your opinion. Maybe give that a shot. Or you can be a dumbass motherfucker and a complete hump. Your choice."

He's a dipshit who knows he has been lying his ass off for two years.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 05, 2019 02:15 PM (NoKAc)

25 Fuck the media. Burn it down.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 02:15 PM (7FpQ0)

26 Poor Quin Hillyer, furiously defending French - Hey what happened to your special blue check mark? Never got one? Sucks to be you

Posted by: zeera new book, link in nic at June 05, 2019 02:15 PM (T9rmq)

27
Spiderbody.

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despite her body...... VERY well done.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 05, 2019 02:16 PM (8XRCm)

28 >>For more than two years, French aided the Left in promoting the now disproven election collusion hoax in order to damage Donald Trump; to say otherwise is simply untrue.

Also self-appointed Conservative Tone Police Captain.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:16 PM (W+vEI)

29 24 I've tweeted to French directly on several occasions:

"Hey, if you read a couple of books, Bongino's SpyGate and Jarrett's The Russia Hoax, you will discover actual 'facts' that you can use to infirm your opinion. Maybe give that a shot. Or you can be a dumbass motherfucker and a complete hump. Your choice."

He's a dipshit who knows he has been lying his ass off for two years.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 05, 2019 02:15 PM (NoKAc)

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"Bongino is an unperson."
-David French, serious thinker

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:16 PM (9cans)

30
How many of these elite NeverTrumpers are there? A handful? I'm concerning myself with them less and less. They're museum curiosities. Wilhelm II after 1918.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2019 02:16 PM (M9ntN)

31 nice: he points out they dissing a guy "because he ended up on the side of faith rather than on the side of deracinated cosmopolitan universalism"

fuck corporatism, chose God.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 05, 2019 02:16 PM (JziUy)

32 You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment...

Weak sauce. Either spell out what you think is impeachable, so we can laugh at you, or don't use the I word.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 05, 2019 02:16 PM (81OU+)

33 NRO does have an interesting story up defending the GOPe grifters as much better stewards of political donations than the non-GOPe grifters.

The author awkwardly shoehorns a defense of David French into it but if you skip those parts, it's eye-opening. (does French pay all these people to defend him or what?)

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:17 PM (O8WFE)

34 It occurs to me that unless you have a virtue ethics, "virtue" signaling really just means support for whatever outcome you prefer.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously

I don't trust anyone that runs around proclaiming virtue.

It's like a con-man insisting he's honest. That's just the 'tell.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2019 02:17 PM (cXV7n)

35 28 >>For more than two years, French aided the Left in promoting the now disproven election collusion hoax in order to damage Donald Trump; to say otherwise is simply untrue.

Also self-appointed Conservative Tone Police Captain.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:16 PM (W+vEI)

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"Tone is more important than policy."
-David French, serious person

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:17 PM (9cans)

36 4 top 5

looks like a good movie...
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 05, 2019 02:10 PM (8D42x)

We need a Hollywood pitch guy on video on Russiagate.

Pitch it as a movie that even the idiot producer who does EVERYTHING else, won't do, because this is too unbelievable.

'So Hillary has classified material on her server? how does she get out of that?'

'Not a problem, barely an inconvenience, we just wipe the server and give her immunity!'

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 02:17 PM (NgKpN)

37 I think the universe would collapse if even one of these people did a Profumo, resigned, and spent the rest of his life atoning.

Posted by: pep at June 05, 2019 02:17 PM (wW03z)

38 Damn, look at the girthy content!

Fuck the NeverTrumpers. Honest enemies are better than treasonous, incestuous, arsonist friends.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 05, 2019 02:17 PM (bcbK8)

39 And yet, I have seen French praised as a great patriotic American..... the, praisers made much of his military service, which negates a lot of sins, apparently....

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:18 PM (xl2Wl)

40 I am perplexed by those who insist that David French is or ever was an actual conservative, even lower-case c. Dude was a Clinton fan. That makes him as credible as OJ "looking for the real killers."

Posted by: setnaffa at June 05, 2019 02:18 PM (iloAs)

41 David French Fry endorsed Egghead McMuffin

Posted by: VMom's phone at June 05, 2019 02:18 PM (EGSGm)

42 Noah Rothman was too liberal for HotAir. That sort of puts him to the left of Hillary.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Jake Fapper is an ass at June 05, 2019 02:18 PM (Z216Q)

43 National Review died the same day WFB did. I cancelled my subscription that day, told them Florence King should sodomize Jonah with Jay Nordlinger's dildo on her way out the door and never looked back.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 05, 2019 02:18 PM (BmxiN)

44

They'll give a Pulitzer to any old clown, but not a clown who can't afford pants.

Forget it, Jonah - this is Trousertown.

And, I would express an urge to eat Rothman, but Ace already called dibs on those cucksteaks. Jim Acosta goes to Rich Giamboni. Jonah and Bill are too old and fatty - that's like Soviet meat - no thanks!

I guess I'll settle for Seth Mandel. He's soy-fed, and I bet pretty tender, and nicely marbled.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:18 PM (uZPhU)

45 I don't trust anyone that runs around proclaiming virtue.

It's like a con-man insisting he's honest. That's just the 'tell.'
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2019 02:17 PM (cXV7n)

That would be the first description of Comey.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:18 PM (A3edJ)

46 =============

"Tone is more important than policy."
-David French, serious person

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Much love to you too, dawg

Posted by: Tone Loc at June 05, 2019 02:19 PM (7HtZB)

47 >>>41 David French Fry endorsed Egghead McMuffin

French was also Kristol's original pick to run as a third party spoiler against Trump in 2016.

McMuffin was Cap'n Bill's back up.

Posted by: El Kabong at June 05, 2019 02:19 PM (datdl)

48

Muellering Quin!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2019 02:19 PM (aKsyK)

49 They'll give a Pulitzer to any old clown, but not a clown who can't afford pants.

Forget it, Jonah - this is Trousertown.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Ok, I laughed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2019 02:20 PM (cXV7n)

50 "The louder he proclaimed his honor the faster we counted our spoons."

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:20 PM (hLRSq)

51 Wow, never trumper's; never heard of 'em
Posted by: zeera new book, link in nic at June 05, 2019 02:09 PM

I know, right?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 05, 2019 02:20 PM (OF95o)

52
"On the radio in Chicago today he said there is no evidence that the cultural left is winning on college campuses. No evidence."

Well sure since they already *won*.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 05, 2019 02:20 PM (uquGJ)

53 Cool. Do I actually have to write something though? Maybe Jonah the Whale knows...
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:13 PM (O8WFE)
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I'm nominating myself for the introduction to The Deplorable Gourmet. It's the only thing I've ever had published. Even if I did have to publish it myself, which isn't important right now.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:20 PM (aXucN)

54 Willowed: I may be late to this, but is youtube really taking down videos that criticize Captain Marvel?

Just saw a recent Nerdrotic vid.

Seems like Google et al. are gearing up for 2020.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 05, 2019 02:21 PM (u9hp4)

55 Noah Rothman was too liberal for HotAir. That sort of puts him to the left of Hillary.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Jake Fapper is an ass at June 05, 2019 02:18 PM (Z216Q

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Allahpundit was always a bitch - but I think the moment that totally broke him was when Rothman got hired away for a "real," "prestige" gig in legacy media at Commentary.

The moment that his semi-literate boy protege got hired there instead of him, he went into full-on Leftist estrus. It was pathetic.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:21 PM (uZPhU)

56 "You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment...."

This line is just dumb. The word impeachment has become meaningless. Nothing - not a single thing Trump has done rises to the level of an impeachable offense. "Behavior"? This almost knee jerk need to qualify statements about Trump, is nothing but virtue signaling.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:21 PM (eaG60)

57 Hey, kids-let's pony up 50 smackers and nominate ACE for a Pulitzer! It'll be a gas.

We can submit the Kaboom thing or whatever. Doesn't matter. He can call himself "The Pulitzer-prize nominated Ace of Spades" for the rest of his life. Get it in the Google search engines.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:21 PM (O8WFE)

58 By the way, Erick-come-lately Erickson's article today is...defending David French.

So yeah.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (AM1GF)

59 57 Hey, kids-let's pony up 50 smackers and nominate ACE for a Pulitzer! It'll be a gas.

We can submit the Kaboom thing or whatever. Doesn't matter. He can call himself "The Pulitzer-prize nominated Ace of Spades" for the rest of his life. Get it in the Google search engines.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:21 PM (O8WFE)

The "Flaming Clown Boners" article alone is worthy

Posted by: josephistan at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (7HtZB)

60
Pulitzer Prize.

Why do they call it a prize when its really an award??

*taps chin*

Posted by: fixerupper at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (8XRCm)

61 I'm nominating myself for the introduction to The Deplorable Gourmet. It's the only thing I've ever had published. Even if I did have to publish it myself, which isn't important right now.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:20 PM (aXucN)

Good to know. I'll dash off a limerick or something. Maybe a haiku.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (O8WFE)

62 Speaking of Bluebell's magnum opus and cuckmeat, I suggest using the slow cooker.

I made some pulled pork from a pork shoulder with a can of Coca Cola and a 16 bottle of BBQ sauce.

Easy and delicious.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (bcbK8)

63 56 "You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment...."

This line is just dumb. The word impeachment has become meaningless. Nothing - not a single thing Trump has done rises to the level of an impeachable offense. "Behavior"? This almost knee jerk need to qualify statements about Trump, is nothing but virtue signaling.
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:21 PM (eaG60)

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Since there is no constitutional definition for "high crimes and misdemeanors", it's really up to the charging authority (the House) to define it.

The process is purely political, and the House needs to find a reason that they can pass of politically so that the Senate will convict.

Dershowitz was right when he said that SCOTUS could probably reverse it, but if the political will exists to impeach and convict, SCOTUS won't go against it unless it's populated by people who don't give a shit about preserving SCOTUS' importance to the American government in practical reality. The people would turn on it en masse if they reverse a popular impeachment and conviction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (9cans)

64 You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment...

Weak sauce. Either spell out what you think is impeachable, so we can laugh at you, or don't use the I word.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas

Seconded. Put up or shut up.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 02:23 PM (7FpQ0)

65 Posted by: bluebell

Will there be a short history of the shiv? Asking for a friend...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 05, 2019 02:23 PM (EgshT)

66 Erickson is a straddler..... and too dumb to think that no one notices.....

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:23 PM (xl2Wl)

67 "This line is just dumb. The word impeachment has become meaningless. Nothing - not a single thing Trump has done rises to the level of an impeachable offense."

It's like the secret handshake to identify members of the club.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:23 PM (hLRSq)

68 " You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment,... impeachment,...

What? I HATE THIS SHIT

THIS is exactly what the people criticized do.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:23 PM (nRWPy)

69 "You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment...."

This line is just dumb.

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yes, always with the "but trump bad" verbal throat clearing. Trump doing fine, sorry fuckers.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 05, 2019 02:23 PM (JziUy)

70 David French should resign from NRO and write exclusively for the Bullwark. Are all JAG officers jackwads?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:23 PM (A3edJ)

71 "America," French wrote, "will always be a nation of competing worldviews and competing, deeply held values. We can forsake a commitment to liberty and launch the political version of the Battle of Verdun, seeking the ruin of our foes, or we can recommit to our shared citizenship and preserve a space for all American voices, even as we compete against those voices in politics and the marketplace of ideas."

Apparently French won't see that the other side has decided "No free speech for you!!" until he and his cuck pals are kicked off all social media/internet and run out of DC. Maybe even then he'll council civility while the Antifa mob chants outside his home and lights in on fire. . .

Character means never having to acknowledge reality.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:24 PM (W+vEI)

72 Let's see, Mr. Ace O'Spades...address, address...are web addresses allowed?

I'll e-mail Jonah and ask...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:24 PM (O8WFE)

73 57 Hey, kids-let's pony up 50 smackers and nominate ACE for a Pulitzer! It'll be a gas.

Why not a Nobel Peace Prize nomination as well? That's not very difficult either.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 05, 2019 02:24 PM (xPl2J)

74 Posted by: Laughing in Texas

Sorry L.I.T. - didnt make it down far enough. What they said.....

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:24 PM (eaG60)

75 You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment ...

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Um, no. Bullshit. Name one.

Posted by: ShainS -- Quarter-Wit aspiring to be Half-Wit at June 05, 2019 02:24 PM (52jLw)

76 Where does French go to find people righteous enough for his company?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at June 05, 2019 02:25 PM (JgA4k)

77 Seconded. Put up or shut up.

They won't, but they will go for the consolation censure prize. What they forget is that Trump will consider it a badge of honor, and mock them for their transparent fecklessness and lack of, err, fortitude.

Posted by: pep at June 05, 2019 02:25 PM (wW03z)

78
Hey, kids-let's pony up 50 smackers and nominate ACE for a Pulitzer! It'll be a gas.

We can submit the Kaboom thing or whatever. Doesn't matter. He can call himself "The Pulitzer-prize nominated Ace of Spades" for the rest of his life. Get it in the Google search engines.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:21 PM

The "Flaming Clown Boners" article alone is worthy

Posted by: josephistan at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM

the sex-for-money skankathon

Posted by: AltonJackson (link in nick for the MiMoMe) at June 05, 2019 02:25 PM (hx3Q8)

79 76 Where does French go to find people righteous enough for his company?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at June 05, 2019 02:25 PM (JgA4k)

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All people look up to him for guidance. He is the ideal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:25 PM (9cans)

80 French truly believes that the fake-4chan-neonazis who tormented and trolled him are actual Trump people. They caused a psychotic break.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:25 PM (nRWPy)

81 This post is outstanding. Fuck the NTs.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 05, 2019 02:25 PM (y7DUB)

82 "What a clown"

Best comment about Goldberg.

"Pompous prick" would be accurate also.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (sc+Xh)

83 The conservative case for storing your marital aids in when travelling by sea

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (AURKQ)

84 So French and Comey... two parts of the Holy Trinity of Sanctimony.... who's the Third???

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (xl2Wl)

85 84 So French and Comey... two parts of the Holy Trinity of Sanctimony.... who's the Third???
Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (xl2Wl)

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Ben Shaprio.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (9cans)

86 84 So French and Comey... two parts of the Holy Trinity of Sanctimony.... who's the Third???

That would be Hillary.

Posted by: pep at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (wW03z)

87 Noah Fucking Rothman.

Posted by: DR.WTF at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (aS1PU)

88 84 So French and Comey... two parts of the Holy Trinity of Sanctimony.... who's the Third???
Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (xl2Wl)

Hugh Hewitt?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (bcbK8)

89 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (9cans)

Sorry, but no.

It will end up with the Court's defining it.

Because Politics is NOT a high crime, nor a misdemeanor.

To say that it is anything the House wants, denies what the CONSTITUTION says.

Why would there be a TRIAL in the Senate, to impeach, presided over by the Head Supreme Court Justice, if this had nothing to do with actual LAW?

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (NgKpN)

90 I clarified my post last thread, but Bluebell had it mostly right.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (nRWPy)

91 85 84 So French and Comey... two parts of the Holy Trinity of Sanctimony.... who's the Third???
Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (xl2Wl)

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Ben Shaprio.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (9cans)

Ah, yes...I overlooked him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (bcbK8)

92 Speaking of Bluebell's magnum opus and cuckmeat,

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (bcbK

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Ah. Er. Um. Do you think you could rephrase that, maybe? Thank you.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (aXucN)

93 Help me, I'm lost...

Posted by: David "Cunt Mouth" French at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (FTPVM)

94 Still not tired of winning

Posted by: G marks the spot at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (4Jgb2)

95 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (9cans)

Bingo. Since it is a political body doing what is essentially a political act, and one that is checked by having another political body having to agree by a super-majority, then the political act must be overwhelmingly popular in order to be done. If not, the consequences can be catastrophic to that first body.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (hLRSq)

96 Someone update me:

Who is this "David French" about which this post revolves? Am I supposed to have heard of him? Why is he significant?

Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (5tb4C)

97 *fires up the woodchipper*

Posted by: wizard crusher at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (Q9ugn)

98 Where does French go to find people righteous enough for his company?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere

Cucks Anonymous DOT com.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (cXV7n)

99 Definitely Ben Shapiro.

I wish I didn't have the prog-like desire to punch him.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (nRWPy)

100 Unfortunately, Never Trumpers can bask in the knowledge they've done more to hurt Trump than any other segment of the population, including the leftist (mainstream) media.

They're dangerous and delusional people. And the sooner they leave the stage, the better.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (RLiOt)

101 75 You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment ...

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Um, no. Bullshit. Name one.
Posted by: ShainS -- Quarter-Wit aspiring to be Half-Wit at June 05, 2019 02:24 PM (52jLw)

Constitution says High Crimes and misdemeanors, not because of either SIN, nor because you don't like him.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (NgKpN)

102 96 Someone update me:

Who is this "David French" about which this post revolves? Am I supposed to have heard of him? Why is he significant?
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (5tb4C)

Zombie, he is a Mustard Baron, and also fried onions....

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (xl2Wl)

103 Will there be a short history of the shiv? Asking for a friend...
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 05, 2019 02:23 PM (EgshT)
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No, there wasn't one. In fact, I don't think I mentioned shivs at all. Perhaps I should prepare a monograph; you can ready the Pulitzer paperwork while I type.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (aXucN)

104 91 85 84 So French and Comey... two parts of the Holy Trinity of Sanctimony.... who's the Third???
Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (xl2Wl)

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Ben Shaprio.

Uh, Ben Shapiro would be, at most, two and a halfth.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (oVJmc)

105 Did I ever tell you I knew Hillary Clinton in law school?

Of course I am the reasonable Republican!

Now, let me tell you why Trump is making another big mistake!

Posted by: Michael Medved at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (sy5kK)

106 The NeverTrumpers just want to be loved and accepted by the alphas. When the flesh-eating alien crab overlords come they'll write stories titled "The Conservative Case for Submitting to Xenocrustaceans and Sacrificing People Not Named David French".

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (RD7QR)

107 89 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (9cans)

Sorry, but no.

It will end up with the Court's defining it.

Because Politics is NOT a high crime, nor a misdemeanor.

To say that it is anything the House wants, denies what the CONSTITUTION says.

Why would there be a TRIAL in the Senate, to impeach, presided over by the Head Supreme Court Justice, if this had nothing to do with actual LAW?
Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (NgKpN)

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I'm sorry, but where does the constitution define what is a high crime or a misdemeanor?

It's all about political will. 100%.

If the political will exists to impeach a president because they have bad hair, then its enough to convince a majority of the House and a supermajority of the Senate to go through with it.

If that happens, SCOTUS risks becoming public enemy #1 if they true to reverse it.

Impeachment is a political process with a lawful facade.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:30 PM (9cans)

108 Bingo. Since it is a political body doing what is essentially a political act, and one that is checked by having another political body having to agree by a super-majority, then the political act must be overwhelmingly popular in order to be done. If not, the consequences can be catastrophic to that first body.
Posted by: NTH

Canings and burning down the House?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 02:30 PM (7FpQ0)

109 >>Who is this "David French" about which this post revolves? Am I supposed to have heard of him? Why is he significant?

National Review writer who is obsessed with Trump's character.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:30 PM (W+vEI)

110 92 Speaking of Bluebell's magnum opus and cuckmeat,

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (bcbK
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Ah. Er. Um. Do you think you could rephrase that, maybe? Thank you.
Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (aXucN)

I shouldn't have crossed the threads, sorry.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 05, 2019 02:30 PM (bcbK8)

111 You can add Noah Rothman to that list. On the radio in Chicago today he said there is no evidence that the cultural left is winning on college campuses. No evidence. Seriously. Those were his exact words.

I heard this show. The host Dan Proft who normally agrees with Rothman and other cucks like French was getting noticeably agitated with Rothman. How can you say the left doesn't own education, entertainment or government? Rothman sounded like a complete dumbfuck. Maybe one day Proft will stop having Rothman and French as guests. He pulled the plug on Kevin Williamson after a ridiculous interview.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 05, 2019 02:30 PM (OLCnA)

112 Big question for America Experts.

Why Right side politics team have David French as lead? How he win leadering vote? Maybe vote count bad!

Thought Right side team give few endorsements for Frenchman mistaking man-anus for sexual organ. Also eyes too close. Recommend Hyena marrow extract for correction.

Much confuse big time.

Posted by: Shogun Pikachu - Keeping Japan SJW free at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (323tT)

113 82 "What a clown"

Best comment about Goldberg.

"Pompous prick" would be accurate also.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (sc+Xh)

Goucher College. He will never be Harvard and it will always make him a sanctimonious cuck since he has to virtue signal harder than if he were actually credentialed.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (nRWPy)

114 Who is this "David French" about which this post revolves? Am I supposed to have heard of him? Why is he significant?
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (5tb4C)

He ran for President as the anti-Trump candidate.

His candidacy lasted 6 days from, exactly, 5/31/16 - 6/5/16

But it was a principled six days.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (O8WFE)

115 I may be in cyber wasteland- this is a test

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (ixxVW)

116 A dude named Quin?

Posted by: Ktgreat at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (f8ilN)

117 It seems the NeverTrumpers have been continuously auditioning for the role of "Tame but Loyal Opposition" in a road company version of some Washington DC based musical - "Spies & Dolls - A Musical of Deep State" or some such.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (hLRSq)

118 David French is the guy who talks like a fag and whose shit is retarded.

Posted by: monkey at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (FTPVM)

119 115 I may be in cyber wasteland- this is a test
Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (ixxVW)

I see you.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (u9hp4)

120 dagny, I don't know if you saw my reply, but I can't believe that chick wore an Obama T-shirt to your high school reunion. I know we both went to school here and no one in my class has ever shown up in a T-shirt! And then I can't believe she found an opportunity to bring up her pet mouse and how she keeps its friggin' ashes on her kitchen table. I wouldn't even know how to start with that, and I'm rarely at a loss for words.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (aXucN)

121 Vichy conservatives.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (oVJmc)

122 Ben Shaprio.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:27 PM (9cans)

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Grrrrr. French and Comey are just run-of-the-mill Republican grifters who cloak their perfidy in a Christianity every bit as genuine as the Shroud of Turin.

This is so commonplace on the "Right" that it doesn't even make an impression. 90% of the GOP does this shit.

But, I'll admit to being taken in for a time by Shapiro's Jewish virtue signalling, and am ashamed of that. It won't happen twice. Wearing a yarmulke and mouthing convenient platitudes doesn't mean you're a good person.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (uZPhU)

123 104 91 85 84 So French and Comey... two parts of the Holy Trinity of Sanctimony.... who's the Third???
Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:26 PM (xl2Wl)

=========

Ben Shaprio.

Uh, Ben Shapiro would be, at most, two and a halfth.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 05, 2019 02:29 PM (oVJmc)

Two and A Half Cucks?

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (hLRSq)

124
Who is this "David French" about which this post revolves? Am I supposed to have heard of him? Why is he significant?

Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (5tb4C)

He was the 2016 Presidential nominee. Of Jonah Goldberg.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (BWL+E)

125 You can still find many faults with Donald Trump's behavior in and out of office, including some cardinal enough perhaps to merit impeachment

This seems like some virtue signalling in itself. I'd always like to ask these people to name one.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (yQpMk)

126 I will never figure out what it is about Trump's "character" they think is worse than that of the average politician or their preferred progs?

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (nRWPy)

127 Since there is no constitutional definition for "high crimes and misdemeanors", it's really up to the charging authority (the House) to define it.

* ******** *

It need not be specifically defined. The House doesnt have Carte blanche to make shit up. There are plenty of examples that have been given over the years. "Behavior" that is not criminal but rather what some may find discomforting is not high crime or misdemeanor.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (eaG60)

128 His candidacy lasted 6 days from, exactly, 5/31/16 - 6/5/16

But it was a principled six days.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (O8WFE)

It was also the last time Kap'n Kristol achieved an erection. Not that he could see it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (O8WFE)

129

Australia has no Bill of Rights? I like it... HUMA! Get the jet! Research Trip!

Posted by: Hitlery Cliton at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (UFLLM)

130 His candidacy lasted 6 days from, exactly, 5/31/16 - 6/5/16

But it was a principled six days.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (O8WFE)

That makes today the three year anniversary of David French's concession!

Posted by: Surfperch at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (8L+9j)

131 No, there wasn't one. In fact, I don't think I mentioned shivs at all.
Perhaps I should prepare a monograph; you can ready the Pulitzer
paperwork while I type.

My apologies. Reading comprehension issues here, today. I thought you were referring to your future, which is certain to garner a Pulitzer.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (EgshT)

132 I wonder if Jonah's Pulitzer "nominations" included his use of MacGuffin.

What a doofus.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (eytER)

133 126 I will never figure out what it is about Trump's "character" they think is worse than that of the average politician or their preferred progs?

It's his complete disinterest in anything they have to say. They're important, dammit!

Posted by: pep at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (wW03z)

134 Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:24 PM (eaG60)

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I didn't take it as a slight towards me, just a comment on the quote.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (81OU+)

135 I may be in cyber wasteland- this is a test
Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (ixxVW)

I refreshed - I think you'er solid.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (uZPhU)

136 102 96 Someone update me:

Who is this "David French" about which this post revolves? Am I supposed to have heard of him? Why is he significant?
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (5tb4C)

Zombie, he is a Mustard Baron, and also fried onions....
Posted by: kraken

Now I am afraid. Big Mustard is even more powerful than Big Olive.

Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (5tb4C)

137 David French was a poor man's Egg McMuffin.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (xPl2J)

138 127 Since there is no constitutional definition for "high crimes and misdemeanors", it's really up to the charging authority (the House) to define it.

* ******** *

It need not be specifically defined. The House doesnt have Carte blanche to make shit up. There are plenty of examples that have been given over the years. "Behavior" that is not criminal but rather what some may find discomforting is not high crime or misdemeanor.
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (eaG60)

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"Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (9cans)

139 Fellow conservatives...Drumpf is a racist.

Now go look at my latest NRO article about "The Conservative Case for Giving the Left Everything"...

Posted by: French Davidian at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (nGsFZ)

140 >>He pulled the plug on Kevin Williamson after a ridiculous interview.

Oh, my favorite Williamson column was the one pleading for civility in politics that opened with - not kidding - comparing Trump's kids to te murderous Uday and Qsay Hussein.

Step one: Fling the ugliest, most shocking insult you can possibly think of at your foe.

Step two: Lecture everyone that politics has gotten ugly, and be a better person like him and take the high road.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (W+vEI)

141 I thought you were referring to your future, which is certain to garner a Pulitzer.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (EgshT)
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Well sure, or at least a nomination, if I pay for it.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (aXucN)

142 Who is this "David French" about which this post revolves? Am I supposed to have heard of him? Why is he significant?
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2019 02:28 PM (5tb4C)

Pulitizer prize nominated JournoList, inventor of French bread, vice-president of the Eichenwald chapter of the Tentacle Hentai Appreciation Society.

Posted by: Sjg at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (gDSJf)

143 We should compile and submit Zod's glue trap comments to the Pulitzer people.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls? at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (5t7Yo)

144 133 126 I will never figure out what it is about Trump's "character" they think is worse than that of the average politician or their preferred progs?

It's his complete disinterest in anything they have to say. They're important, dammit!"

Plus he says Mean Things. MEAN THINGS!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (Kpl3J)

145 When the Trump Revolution starts to kick into high gear, I want very much to see the NT'rs lined up and shot before the commies.

Traitors first. Gotta settle the "family" business before you move on to other things.

OT: just came across a brutally honest Stupid Leftist Millennial Girl meme...

Won't eat steak because "EEEW!"
Blows a guy she met on Tinder 15-minutes ago, bareback

Posted by: DocJ at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (KQmvN)

146 This seems like some virtue signalling in itself. I'd always like to ask these people to name one.

Agreed, and I go one further...why didn't similar behavior from other Presidents or elected officials NOT merit impeachment.....?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (eytER)

147 David French was a poor man's Egg McMuffin.

who was a poor man's Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (yQpMk)

148 That rather attractive brunette in the sidebar dressing down Amash represents skillfully the shitstorm that will hit the airwaves if and when the dems try to make shit up to impeach.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (eaG60)

149
Now that [the Russia Hoax that the NeverTrumpers pushed so hard] has been thoroughly investigated and discredited

But it hasn't been according to Never Trumpers. Listen to 5 minutes of former congressman Joe Walsh's radio show and he'll tell you that the Russia bullshit is all real and hero Mewler proved Trump obstructed justice but and I quote, the Constitution prevented Mewler from doing anything and super patriot Mewler follows the Constitution unlike king/dictator Trump

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (OLCnA)

150 What they hate about Trump is his insolence towards them, and his utter indifference about acceptance in Olympus.....

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (xl2Wl)

151 These NT dead-enders hate Trump so much they were willing to believe he was peeing on a bunch of russian hookers. That is the depth of their neurosis.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (r+sAi)

152
I will never figure out what it is about Trump's "character" they think is worse than that of the average politician or their preferred progs?

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (nRWPy)

His character is uniquely American.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (TAmPV)

153 French and Comey are just run-of-the-mill Republican grifters.

Where does this Comey is a republican come from? You don't go from being a communist to being a republican easily. He was whatever he thought would advance him. His family is pussy-hat wearing loons, so I doubt he was ever a republican.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (nRWPy)

154 61 I'm nominating myself for the introduction to The Deplorable Gourmet. It's the only thing I've ever had published. Even if I did have to publish it myself, which isn't important right now.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:20 PM (aXucN)

Good to know. I'll dash off a limerick or something. Maybe a haiku.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:22 PM (O8WFE)

Bullshit award is
Desired by plump cuck man.
The Paolo moans yes.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (RD7QR)

155 It is therefore particularly strange to find that David French lent his
considerable conservative credibility to the Russiagate lunacy....

Dripping...

Posted by: mikeyG at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (LL1Be)

156 Oh, my favorite Williamson column was the one pleading for civility in politics that opened with - not kidding - comparing Trump's kids to te murderous Uday and Qsay Hussein.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (W+vEI)
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I remember that one too, Lizzy. I was shocked. I couldn't believe they let that one through.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (aXucN)

157 http://bit.ly/2Z2Gkyu
********
Ep. 995 The Questions That Must be Asked. The Dan Bongino Show 6/5/2019. - YouTube

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (BqBId)

158 148 That rather attractive brunette in the sidebar dressing down Amash represents skillfully the shitstorm that will hit the airwaves if and when the dems try to make shit up to impeach.
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:35 PM (eaG60)

Not if we have anything to say about it.

We own the airtime.

Posted by: Mainsteam American Media at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (sy5kK)

159 There was some discussion in the last thread regarding The YouTube/Google ban of Conservatives

Vox's Carlos Maza been pushing for Crowder to be banned. He's the same guy who called for Conservatives to have milkshakes thrown on them.

Crowder posted a video a few hours ago discussing this with Tim Pool:

https://tinyurl.com/y5unjqhh

Posted by: redridinghood at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (RBOtF)

160 Death poems. Written in haiku.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (gOfxh)

161 Always keep in mind the NeverTrumpers are toast. They know it and are monetizing whatever and wherever they can cause they know that their time is short.

The only ones giving the NeverTrumpers a stage are the left wing media and the particular zines they work for (for now) or were just created to show case them like The CuckShed (The Bulwark) for Kristol et al.

These will either die a quick death when the donations stop (around about when Trump is reelected) or (in the case of the zines they work for and have history) they decide to embrace the Orange Man before he focuses on them once he gets reelected.

George Will is becoming an endangered species and can't even save himself with stories about baseball anymore.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (sc+Xh)

162 "Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Congress themselves do that every day by 11:00 am.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (7FpQ0)

163 His candidacy lasted 6 days from, exactly, 5/31/16 - 6/5/16

But it was a principled six days.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:31 PM (O8WFE)

All the staying power of an Arab army.

Posted by: josephistan at June 05, 2019 02:38 PM (7HtZB)

164 David French was a poor man's Egg McMuffin.
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (xPl2J)

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Cap'n Cuck's first plan was to draft French, who refused on the grounds that it would burn down his grift, which Bill could sympathize with.

So they both settled on that worm as the standard bearer, in the hopes that throwing Utah would tilt the election. It wouldn't have, but it didn't work anyway. Sorry, fags.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:38 PM (uZPhU)

165 If the political will exists to impeach a president because they have bad hair, then its enough to convince a majority of the House and a supermajority of the Senate to go through with it.

If that happens, SCOTUS risks becoming public enemy #1 if they true to reverse it.

Impeachment is a political process with a lawful facade.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:30 PM (9cans)

And now you know why they are in a hurry to take our guns away.

/spit

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 02:38 PM (NgKpN)

166 >>>But, I'll admit to being taken in for a time by Shapiro's Jewish virtue signalling, and am ashamed of that. It won't happen twice. Wearing a yarmulke and mouthing convenient platitudes doesn't mean you're a good person.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (uZPhU)

__________

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Posted by: Shogun Pikachu - Keeping Japan SJW free at June 05, 2019 02:38 PM (323tT)

167 162 "Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Congress themselves do that every day by 11:00 am.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (7FpQ0)

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Impeach!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:38 PM (9cans)

168 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE BAD MAN SAID DOODY!!!!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLEESBARGER at June 05, 2019 02:38 PM (FTPVM)

169 And let's drop George Will on a desert island with nothing but a crateful of Levi's and Hot Pockets.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 05, 2019 02:38 PM (oVJmc)

170 they use Trump's truthfulness about activities to hang him, yet everyone partakes (just hidden). Trump always embellishes to make a point. sorry, that is not what lies are. You can keep your doctor is what a lie is. the political media is pushing lefties hard left. hope they keep it up as those flyover people that just want to live another day are getting woke from their political slumber.

Posted by: tx32 represent-less at June 05, 2019 02:39 PM (1XtI9)

171 I will never figure out what it is about Trump's "character" they think
is worse than that of the average politician or their preferred progs?

There are several commenters that abhor his "behavior" and his "awful awful awful Tweets". Until cornered , anyway.

They never quite get around to answering your question though.

Posted by: mikeyG at June 05, 2019 02:39 PM (LL1Be)

172 All this shit is simple. NR, WS, etc made a bet that Trump would flame out and it would be better to be on the winning side than the losing side. And as is true of most people, they can't admit failure apologize and move on, so they keep doubling down

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 02:39 PM (FiUMj)

173 I will never figure out what it is about Trump's
"character" they think is worse than that of the average politician or
their preferred progs?

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:33 PM (nRWPy)

His character is uniquely American.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (TAmPV)

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Yep that IS why.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 05, 2019 02:39 PM (pw+jk)

174 Wiki tells it a little differently. According to them, French never actually decided to run and announced that he was not running on this day in 2016. Kap'n Kuck just *named* French on May 31st.

Uh huh. And French knew nothing about it. Riiiiight.

Thus sayeth Wiki:

Political commentator Bill Kristol...named French as his choice to run for US President as an independent conservative candidate to defeat presumptive Republican nominee Trump on May 31. On June 5, French announced that he had considered running, but ultimately decided not to.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 05, 2019 02:39 PM (O8WFE)

175

NRO was soft on Barry O'jugears.

NRO went all-in for Hillary.

NRO went all-against Don Trump, one of the most conservative leaders this country has ever seen who is not afraid, like the Bushes, to push back against the progress.

They pissed all their reputation down the drain. It's not coming back.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Williams at June 05, 2019 02:39 PM (7wsmM)

176 151 These NT dead-enders hate Trump so much they were willing to believe he was peeing on a bunch of russian hookers. That is the depth of their neurosis.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (r+sAi)

No, he paid Russian hookers to pee on a bed that Obama slept on. Get it right, I worked real hard on coming up with that one.

Posted by: Christopher Steele, 00 agent at June 05, 2019 02:40 PM (7HtZB)

177 There must be some mistake. I just began watching Forged in Fire... starting with the interarms' "Branch Battle: Army" and Iraqi War hero, David French, isn't one of the blade-smiths just pussies like snipers and combat medics. I might as well stop watching right now.

Unless... unless they knew French would have won easily so they didn't invite him on purpose??

Okay but this is as disappointing as the guy on Jeopardy! losing on purpose so he wouldn't have to stay away from his daughter any more and vice versa.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2019 02:40 PM (Dh1wo)

178 Thanks. Whatever the glitch was seems to be fixed.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2019 02:40 PM (ixxVW)

179 109 >>Who is this "David French" about which this post revolves? Am I supposed to have heard of him? Why is he significant?

National Review writer who is obsessed with Trump's character.
Posted by: Lizzy

And...why exactly does a National Review writer garner so much attention?

According to wikipedia:

"National Review total circulation: 90,904"

There are punk fanzines that have higher circulation. Satanist libertarian Styxhexenhammer666 gets 100,000+ views on his videos -- of which he posts several each day. And one individual writer within that 90,000 circulation get only some lesser percentage of readers.

(Scratches head.) I'm trying to hate French, but he's so small I can't see where he even is!

Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2019 02:40 PM (5tb4C)

180 I'll go naked before I wear dungarees.

Posted by: George Will at June 05, 2019 02:40 PM (yQpMk)

181 Ahem.

Most of these people were never actually conservatives. Ever. They used it as a way to climb the Woodward-Bernstein media celebrity ladder. Yes, you, Kristol. Fake fat faker faking mcfakerson. I hate to blame John McLaughlin for part of this, but yes, his show and the idiotic Crossfire/Hannity and Colmes/Don Lemon plague were natural outgrowths. There is literally no other time in history that Juan Fucking Williams, Eleanor Clift, and immortal poster child for Washington cocktail dillhole, Fred Barnes, could have become wealthy being certified, willful idiots.

Together with the rise of the celebrity partisan "consultant" and the made-to-order-but-nonreplicable-science-for-funding scam, the media bestowing itself with glam, glitz, and artificial wisdom are why our schools, kids, relationships, and culture are screwy. When Juan Fucking Williams, Eleanor Clift, and Fred Barnes claim to have insight into the issues of the day--ANYONE CAN. Hence, Hollywood thinks that it can lecture the rest of us on how to be virtuous.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 05, 2019 02:40 PM (Boy/L)

182 Free to any NT who has become suicidal:

The Summer brings heat
The Orange Man brings light
I leap out of my soul

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at June 05, 2019 02:40 PM (sc+Xh)

183 Oh, my favorite Williamson column was the one pleading for civility in politics that opened with - not kidding - comparing Trump's kids to te murderous Uday and Qsay Hussein.

Proft's last interview with Williamson was over a year ago and no matter what Proft said Williamson would only come back with Trump is the worst thing ever and was beyond obnoxious. Proft had a similar experience with Ralph Peters and pretty pulled the plug on him during the interview

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 05, 2019 02:41 PM (OLCnA)

184 Now that [the Russia Hoax that the NeverTrumpers pushed so hard] has been thoroughly investigated and discredited, it seems fair to ask: Is championing a loony and deeply corrosive conspiracy theory proof of anyone's superior virtue?

This is not the issue. It isn't a matter of the America-hating Vichy Republicans just being loony. They actively helped in a coup attempt.

The fact that these accusations were false implies that the Never Trumpers who made them early and often were among the political pyromaniacs, and are therefore deserving of the very obloquy that they heaped on Trump [for allegedly poisoning public discourse].

They were part of the coup attempt - carried out in conspiracy with various foreigners looking to cut America down to size. They should all suffer the just punishment for treason (yes, it is treason for the Americans who gave aid and comfort to foreigners looking to destroy America) and the foreigners should just be taken out by poisoned umbrella tips, rabid packs of chi-hua-huas and various other spycrafty ways of ending the existence of foreigners.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 05, 2019 02:41 PM (UqwnA)

185 The last paragraph of the Leibowitz article states that a religious minority cannot exist in the Progressive society of today. I guess I have to asked if liberal Jews even want to exist as a religious minority?

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (JFO2v)

186 "Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

***********

Yep. Its been almost 20 years since I studied those but from what I recall there are a LOT of facts behind that which do NOT come close to applying to Trump's tweets, etc.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (eaG60)

187 Now that [the Russia Hoax that the NeverTrumpers pushed so hard] has been thoroughly investigated and discredited

You don't prove, or disprove, anything with a 450 page report. You do that in 25 pages or less.

That report was designed to not be read at all - or if read, selectively interpreted.

Posted by: Voter at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (9CpgS)

188 His character is uniquely American.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (TAmPV)

That's it.

I was with some Brits recently and the events turned to whisky drinking. They asked what I preferred. I said Bourbon. They suggested that wasn't really whisky. I suggested that it was, but better and american. Just being American made it preferable. Coulda added "like Trump."

And you may have lurched onto something deeper here. The globalists hate him because he is American first and refuses, with aplomb, to be one of the "Hate-America-firsters." That sentiment has been so deeply woven into the urban-chic-academic crowd they don't even know why they react as they do.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (nRWPy)

189 they let you grab their pussy is not an attack on all women, just those that use their attractiveness to get whatever (they want at the moment) from men of power. its called toxic femininity.

Posted by: tx32 represent-less at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (1XtI9)

190
When Juan Fucking Williams, Eleanor Clift, and Fred Barnes claim to have insight into the issues of the day--ANYONE CAN.

You can find as much insight and wisdom from the Morons here than the CNN/MSNBC/Fox talking heads.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (BWL+E)

191 Where does this Comey is a republican come from? You don't go from being a communist to being a republican easily. He was whatever he thought would advance him. His family is pussy-hat wearing loons, so I doubt he was ever a republican.
Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:36 PM (nRWPy)

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Exactly, which is why I used "Republican" to modify the word "grifter."

And that's true of most of the GOP. They're mostly a bunch of liberals who use shibboleths about G-d, country, and liberty to trick us out of more votes, more book purchases, more cruise tickets, and into more leftism.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:43 PM (uZPhU)

192 >>Vox's Carlos Maza been pushing for Crowder to be banned. He's the same guy who called for Conservatives to have milkshakes thrown on them.

Crowder posted a video a few hours ago discussing this with Tim Pool:

https://tinyurl.com/y5unjqhh
- - -

Will check it out.

Crowder and his lawyer have had ongoing discussions with youtube for years since he has been in youtube's sights for a while (demonetizing, countering bogus copyright complaints, ever-changing terms of service, etc.). When youtube does suspend him (because you know they will) there will be an extensive paper trail to contend with.

Since the Covington kid feeding frenzy, there appears to be a number of lawyers very interested in pushing back the Silicon Valley censors/doxxers hard.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:43 PM (W+vEI)

193 Australia has no Bill of Rights? I like it... HUMA! Get the jet! Research Trip!"

That bit in the sidebar is amusing, but there's a whole lot more going on there. Basically the newly confident Conservative Govm't is moving to apply some discipline to a state-owned broadcast company which has been taken over by the far left, and the left is Shrieking "OPPRESSION!!!!" over the fact that the Government is investigating them for engaging in clearly illegal actions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:43 PM (Kpl3J)

194 Jonah Goldberg. Really an astonishingly deceitful turncoat.

He made his bones on the Clinton impeachment because his mom had the tapes.

And now he is peddling Sidney Blumenthal's tripe.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 02:43 PM (9VeU0)

195 186 "Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

***********

Yep. Its been almost 20 years since I studied those but from what I recall there are a LOT of facts behind that which do NOT come close to applying to Trump's tweets, etc.
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (eaG60)

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But, making speeches...The House called making speeches a high crime and misdemeanor.

It can call what it wants a high crime and misdemeanor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (9cans)

196 I'd rather be a democrat than a never-Trumper.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (x6XkS)

197 George Bush never pushed back against the calumnies directed at him because he and his family are part of the Oligarchy that runs America.... ultimate it was Always ndge, nudge, wink,wink with the invective.... he is super tight with the Clintons AND the Obamas.... the Ruling Class.... forced to get votes, but it is all a game........ and then, Along Comes Trump.....

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (xl2Wl)

198 161 Always keep in mind the NeverTrumpers are toast. They know it and are monetizing whatever and wherever they can cause they know that their time is short.

Not really. They are still getting airtime. Here in Houston a fairly conservative show gave Kevin Williamson an hour to sell his new book. Of course it only took him 25 minutes to call most Republicans national socialist.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (JFO2v)

199
Vox's Carlos Maza been pushing for Crowder to be banned. He's the same guy who called for Conservatives to have milkshakes thrown on them.

Posted by: redridinghood

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Tangential, but I'm thinking maybe all the Trumpists should pick a day, get together in whatever local public square, and give themselves a giant milkshaking. Everyone wear something washable, hire a band, have a few hearty speeches, and on the count of three, pour your milkshake all over yourself.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (M9ntN)

200 When Juan Fucking Williams, Eleanor Clift, and Fred Barnes claim to have insight into the issues of the day--ANYONE CAN.

You just perfectly encapsulated the CNN and msnbc business models.

Posted by: mikey at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (LL1Be)

201 What everyone also forgets is that NR is a business and NR writers get a paycheck. It's like any job right? Your boss says do this, you say uhm OK boss. NR told them all to go full NT retard, they did it. And the reason NR told them to do it is because they figured there was more money in it being anti-Trump than pro-Trump.

Other than a few rare people like maybe Hannity or Limbaugh, none of these "conservative" media people really give a fuck about any of it. It's a job. No more no less.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (FiUMj)

202 You can find as much insight and wisdom from the Morons here than the CNN/MSNBC/Fox talking heads.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (BWL+E)

A hell of a lot more, actually. We're the source material for the good ones.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (Kpl3J)

203 I hate the cuckservatives far more than the evil demofascists. The cuckservatives are traitors. They should die a traitor's death.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (pw+jk)

204 IDK how wealthy Fred Barnes is, he lives down the street.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (nRWPy)

205 oops.

I deegee'd.

Posted by: mikeyG at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (LL1Be)

206 A hell of a lot more, actually. We're the source material for the good ones.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (Kpl3J)

I admit nothing!

Posted by: Greg Gutfeld at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (u9hp4)

207 "Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (9cans)

Which is how the Congress should be treated.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (gOfxh)

208 "Where does this Comey is a republican come from? "

He probably voted for a Republican city councilman once. Hence...Republican.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (FiUMj)

209 We own the airtime.
Posted by: Mainsteam American Media

Dead air.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:46 PM (eaG60)

210 180 I'll go naked before I wear dungarees.
Posted by: George Will at June 05, 2019 02:40 PM (yQpMk)

" Dungarees"...... and THAT is all you need to know about George Will....

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:46 PM (xl2Wl)

211 I hate the cuckservatives far more than the evil demofascists. The cuckservatives are traitors. They should die a traitor's death.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (pw+jk)

THIS!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 05, 2019 02:46 PM (OLCnA)

212 Even with the airtime, how many copies do you think Williamson will actually sell?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls? at June 05, 2019 02:46 PM (5t7Yo)

213 204 IDK how wealthy Fred Barnes is, he lives down the street.
Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (nRWPy)

You should give him a cookbook.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 05, 2019 02:46 PM (u9hp4)

214
It can call what it wants a high crime and misdemeanor.

Crime and misdemeanor both have legal definitions.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 05, 2019 02:46 PM (TAmPV)

215 188 The globalists hate him because he is American first

Every Globalist is a semi-communists trying to latch onto a piece of our wealth.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 05, 2019 02:46 PM (JFO2v)

216 160 Death poems. Written in haiku.
Posted by: Fox2! at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (gOfxh)

Fat cuck digs canal
In searing desert sunlight.
Foreman smiles at death.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 05, 2019 02:47 PM (RD7QR)

217 I was nominated for the Publisher's Clearinghouse Sweepstakes.

Posted by: mikeyG at June 05, 2019 02:47 PM (LL1Be)

218 Magical Collusion Dust.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 05, 2019 02:47 PM (sm6Pk)

219 Clinton wasn't impeached because he stuck a cigar up his interns hoo ha. He was impeached for perjuring himself in a court of law.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:47 PM (A3edJ)

220 There are several commenters that abhor his "behavior" and his "awful awful awful Tweets". Until cornered , anyway.

Like what? I would keep saying.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:47 PM (nRWPy)

221 207 "Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (9cans)

Which is how the Congress should be treated.
Posted by: Fox2! at June 05, 2019 02:45 PM (gOfxh)

==========

Of course, the reality is that there isn't the political will sufficient to support impeachment, much less conviction.

Impeachment ain't going anywhere, and I predict that it will be as successful in removing presidents for the next 230 years of the Republic as it was in the first 230 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:47 PM (9cans)

222 >>And you may have lurched onto something deeper here. The globalists hate him because he is American first and refuses, with aplomb, to be one of the "Hate-America-firsters." That sentiment has been so deeply woven into the urban-chic-academic crowd they don't even know why they react as they do.

Also: Trump says things no one says. He uses pre-Lefty euphemism language to discuss issues, such as "illegal alien."

He also says mean things about, and to, people DC/NYC/Hollywood/universities have deemed untouchable. He bluntly criticizes Hillary, something that was just not done (see what happened to Gingrich who dared to do this). He specifies all the criminals and grifters who are invading us from the South, he calls dumb politician dumb, etc. He does not candycoat it or do it slyly.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:47 PM (W+vEI)

223 214
It can call what it wants a high crime and misdemeanor.

Crime and misdemeanor both have legal definitions.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 05, 2019 02:46 PM (TAmPV)

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But not constitutional.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:48 PM (9cans)

224 Our oligarchs are TransNationalists.... of course they hate Trump.....

Posted by: kraken at June 05, 2019 02:48 PM (xl2Wl)

225 The never trump elites sure are stupid and dishonest. Since we cant eat them they appear to be completely worthless.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 05, 2019 02:48 PM (NLny5)

226 Collusion isn't something that you get "evidence" for. It's a thoughtcrime.

Trump will be impeached of wrongthink.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 05, 2019 02:48 PM (KUaJL)

227 Here's what I don't understand. If you've demonstrably taken that point of view- why hide it? Why wouldn't you just simply admit to being wrong or motivated by something other than intellectual or virtuous motives? At least with that perspective you wouldn't be a fraud, which to me is much more indicting of your character.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2019 02:48 PM (VpIIl)

228 I learned two new words today.

Obloquy and Spiderbody.

Its been a good day.

Posted by: IP at June 05, 2019 02:48 PM (gPZ9i)

229 159 There was some discussion in the last thread regarding The YouTube/Google ban of Conservatives

Vox's Carlos Maza been pushing for Crowder to be banned. He's the same guy who called for Conservatives to have milkshakes thrown on them.

Crowder posted a video a few hours ago discussing this with Tim Pool:

https://tinyurl.com/y5unjqhh

Posted by: redridinghood at June 05, 2019 02:37 PM (RBOtF)

Tim Pool has been hinting that by these new standards, Chunk Uygur/TYT should rightfully be banned.

Of course, he won't be.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 05, 2019 02:48 PM (sm6Pk)

230 French and Goldberg ate up and amplified the Collusion Hoax at every possible opportunity. Their only possible defense is that they're gullible chumps ... which is plausible.

The actual defense they're going with is the weaselly, "I was always very careful to say 'if true' before I went right along acting exactly like some nonsense easily disprovable allegation was already proven true."

Pretty shameless for men of character such as they tell themselves (and us) they are.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at June 05, 2019 02:49 PM (hdzef)

231 225 The never trump elites sure are stupid and dishonest. Since we cant eat them they appear to be completely worthless.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 05, 2019 02:48 PM (NLny5)

I willing to venture no one's actually tried eating them yet.

So there's hope.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 05, 2019 02:49 PM (u9hp4)

232 He also says mean things about, and to, people DC/NYC/Hollywood/universities have deemed untouchable.

Here is what I say - he assails the unassailable. The Dems pick out some spokesthing - say a Gold Star parent - to attack Trump, thinking, hah, he cannot repond, it will make him look terrible.

And Trump says LOL GF.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 02:49 PM (9VeU0)

233 Has Jane been in today? I wonder how her husband is.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 05, 2019 02:49 PM (Ci+u3)

234 Clinton wasn't impeached because he stuck a cigar up his interns hoo ha. He was impeached for perjuring himself in a court of law.

Where he was being sued over predatory sex practices.

It's funny how the Left likes to overlook the sexual harassment aspect in that that they invented to destroy the non-left.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (oVJmc)

235 The funny thing is, the Right hates French, Goldberg, Rothman, and Kristol for being lying about what it mens to be a conservative.

The Left hates Rogan, Rubin, Poole, and Peterson for telling the truth about what it means to be a liberal.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (uZPhU)

236 "The actual defense they're going with is the weaselly, "I was always very careful to say 'if true' before I went right along acting exactly like some nonsense easily disprovable allegation was already proven true."

***IF TRUE*** the allegations that Johah Goldberg sexually assaulted many children is very, very troubling.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (FiUMj)

237 Keep thinking of French as a toffee nosed upper class twit who revels in preaching about order to the steerage class masses as he is lowered in a Titanic lifeboat.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (LGo6U)

238 Clinton wasn't impeached because he stuck a cigar up his interns hoo ha. He was impeached for perjuring himself in a court of law.

===========

Where is perjury called a high crime and misdemeanor?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (9cans)

239 And...why exactly does a National Review writer garner so much attention?

According to wikipedia:

"National Review total circulation: 90,904"

I have said that Model Railroader has a higher circulation (138,000) and doesn't need charity.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (hLRSq)

240 SOS. We've known what these cocksuckers are for years.

Posted by: freaked at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (UdKB7)

241 Heartburn at CNN:

CNN poll: 54 percent say Trump will be re-elected.

So if Trumps approval number is only in the mid 40's, why do 54% of respondents say he'll get reelected?

Is the Left facing up to some hard truths?

PS. CNN did a similar poll in March of 2018. The results then were 40%.

Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (G0vdT)

242 Yep. Its been almost 20 years since I studied those but from what I recall there are a LOT of facts behind that which do NOT come close to applying to Trump's tweets, etc.
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:42 PM (eaG60)
=========
But, making speeches...The House called making speeches a high crime and misdemeanor.

It can call what it wants a high crime and misdemeanor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:44 PM (9cans)

another poster alluded to an important issue when he mentioned the right to bear arms - I believe you're correct, Impeachment is a nakedly political process with no actual rules.

BUT when there are no rules for one side, there are no rules for the other. The answer to a purely political impeachment movement that goes against the popular will is, quite literally and seriously, for 10,000 supporters of the President, all armed with rifles, shotguns, and other weapons, to show up on Capitol Hill on the day a vote is scheduled and to take over the House and Senate Chambers. No rules, remember? And the President is the one who controls the Army, he won't get the army involved, Congress would be on its own. Good luck with that, guys.

Those people who want to go ahead with "No Rules!" should stop and think for a bit about what No Rules really means.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (Kpl3J)

243
"Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (9cans)

That's one of the Cruelty to Dumb Animals charges that get thrown in. No one really thinks they'll come to a vote. There's one or two articles that are actually important and if they fail they throw in the towel.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (BWL+E)

244 One of the things I appreciate about Ace is that he'll admit when he was wrong before, even crack jokes about it. Ego ain't a part of his writing and persona. I get that someone like Goldberg, French, et al have 6 figure incomes and book deals to defend but being honest and saying "boy we messed that up, I was an idiot" would go a lot further than "somehow we were still right and I never said that anyway."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (39g3+)

245 Clinton wasn't impeached because he stuck a cigar up
his interns hoo ha. He was impeached for perjuring himself in a court
of law.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:47 PM (A3edJ)

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BJ Clinton also had a real conspiracy to suborn perjury going to.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (pw+jk)

246 It can call what it wants a high crime and misdemeanor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

***********

I respectfully disagree. The House needs FACTS to back up its claim. It cannot just declare something a misdemeanor out of whole cloth.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (eaG60)

247 120 dagny, I don't know if you saw my reply, but I can't believe that chick wore an Obama T-shirt to your high school reunion. I know we both went to school here and no one in my class has ever shown up in a T-shirt! And then I can't believe she found an opportunity to bring up her pet mouse and how she keeps its friggin' ashes on her kitchen table. I wouldn't even know how to start with that, and I'm rarely at a loss for words.
Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:32 PM (aXucN)

It was a small class and the reunion consisted of about 12 women at someone's house. After a long story about Matilda Mouse around the dinner table, I just replied with "hence the Obama shirt." There were some confused looks, so I told the "Swa-ord" story and how "sorry" I was for snickering at the time. It was unkind. Do you forgive me? I guess my point is that people don't get smarter.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:52 PM (nRWPy)

248 cuck offers up wife
daughters if needed for cause
its muh principals

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 05, 2019 02:52 PM (JFO2v)

249 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:43 PM (Kpl3J)

Our problem is that the only Arbiter of what the Bill of Rights means, is the Federal Government.

And since, as we were famously told, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, even plain language can be ignored by the Federal Government if it wants more power.

Things such as, InterSTATE (between States) commerce somehow becomes a Farmer growing chicken feed for his own damn chickens.

Or, shall not be infringed somehow becomes having to have Government approval to buy guns, and soon (as in Calif) ammunition.

We need a process to reign in the power of the Fed Government.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 02:52 PM (NgKpN)

250 Someone said yesterday that Trump is Al Czervik from Caddyshack. There's a lot of truth to that. They hate him because he's rich, powerful and doesn't give a fuck about what they think.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 02:53 PM (FiUMj)

251 243
"Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States"."

Article 10 of impeachment articles against Andrew Johnson.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:34 PM (9cans)

That's one of the Cruelty to Dumb Animals charges that get thrown in. No one really thinks they'll come to a vote. There's one or two articles that are actually important and if they fail they throw in the towel.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (BWL+E)

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They have equal weight. Any of them are valid reasons for impeachment if brought.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:53 PM (9cans)

252 Where is perjury called a high crime and misdemeanor?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (9cans)

Honestly, the only High Crime I can think of off the top of my head is smoking Wacky Tobaccy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:53 PM (Kpl3J)

253 BJ Clinton also had a real conspiracy to suborn perjury going to.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (pw+jk)

Most definitely. Could have been indicted on multiple counts of obstruction too.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:54 PM (A3edJ)

254 "TWO SCOOPS"..........IMPEACH!!!

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:54 PM (eaG60)

255 Honestly, the only High Crime I can think of off the top of my head is smoking Wacky Tobaccy.
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Damn right!

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at June 05, 2019 02:54 PM (Ci+u3)

256 250 Someone said yesterday that Trump is Al Czervik from Caddyshack. There's a lot of truth to that. They hate him because he's rich, powerful and doesn't give a fuck about what they think.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 02:53 PM (FiUMj)

A thousand bucks says the Hawaiian judge slices it into the woods.

Posted by: Roy at June 05, 2019 02:54 PM (40mSG)

257 246 It can call what it wants a high crime and misdemeanor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

***********

I respectfully disagree. The House needs FACTS to back up its claim. It cannot just declare something a misdemeanor out of whole cloth.
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (eaG60)

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That's up to the sovereign People to decide.

"He smells bad, but we're not going to provide proof."

That's good enough if the American People have elected representatives to the House and Senate who feel like it's a good reason.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:54 PM (9cans)

258 .. should say , if a President could be indicted..

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:54 PM (A3edJ)

259 French is worse than a lawyer-toff. He's an evangelical lawyer-toff who thinks that makes him BETTER than EVERYONE including the other lawyer-toffs AND the other Christians, since he's credentialed and holy.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:55 PM (nRWPy)

260 Congress don't need no facts.

The House can impeach for whatever the heck they want.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 02:55 PM (9VeU0)

261 Any of them are valid reasons for impeachment if brought.

You're just playing word games here. If you posit that there are no actual rules, then any reason becomes a sufficient reason, even if a not valid one in the common sense of the word.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 05, 2019 02:55 PM (yQpMk)

262 Does anyone have Paolo's contact information?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Captain Bill at June 05, 2019 02:55 PM (+EkXj)

263 Someone said yesterday that Trump is Al Czervik from Caddyshack. There's a lot of truth to that. They hate him because he's rich, powerful and doesn't give a fuck about what they think.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 02:53 PM (FiUMj)

Yep. Trump is the first person with "Fuck you" money to actually tell these people to go fuck themselves.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 05, 2019 02:55 PM (KUaJL)

264 252 Where is perjury called a high crime and misdemeanor?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (9cans)

Honestly, the only High Crime I can think of off the top of my head is smoking Wacky Tobaccy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:53 PM (Kpl3J)

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Nice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:55 PM (9cans)

265 254 "TWO SCOOPS"..........IMPEACH!!!
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:54 PM (eaG60)

Peach-mint ice cream... sounds good.

Posted by: josephistan at June 05, 2019 02:56 PM (7HtZB)

266 I respectfully disagree. The House needs FACTS to back up its claim. It cannot just declare something a misdemeanor out of whole cloth.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (eaG60)

The House can impeach on whatever it wants. However, to convict still requires 2/3 of the Senate and to get that they better have a darn good case for misconduct in office - high crimes and misdemeanors - to generate sufficient public support to get that many senators to vote to convict.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:56 PM (hLRSq)

267 "Someone said yesterday that Trump is Al Czervik from Caddyshack."

Well that was what I said during the campaign. Also Dangerfield from "Back To School"

Posted by: freaked at June 05, 2019 02:56 PM (UdKB7)

268 There were some confused looks, so I told the "Swa-ord" story and how "sorry" I was for snickering at the time. It was unkind. Do you forgive me? I guess my point is that people don't get smarter.
Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 02:52 PM (nRWPy)
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I forgive you. Say two Hail Marys and pray that that chick gets a clue some day.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:56 PM (aXucN)

269 Those people who want to go ahead with "No Rules!" should stop and think for a bit about what No Rules really means.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM (Kpl3J)

Only about 3% of the Colonists fought in the American Revolution.

Even 1% of the US Population would be north of 3 Million Men.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 02:56 PM (NgKpN)

270 He's a dipshit who knows he has been lying his ass off for two years.

The guiding principle of NeverTrumpers is to not get their wives disinvited from all the fancy DC parties. If conservatives threw those parties instead we'd see a massive explosion in the number of moderate Dems.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 05, 2019 02:56 PM (ZGrMX)

271 >>Here is what I say - he assails the unassailable. The Dems pick out some spokesthing - say a Gold Star parent - to attack Trump, thinking, hah, he cannot repond, it will make him look terrible.

And Trump says LOL GF.
- - -

And the rest of us say THANK YOU for not giving in to their tried and true tricks for silencing conservatives/Republicans.

Is he rude sometimes? You bet! Is he any more rude than the Left regularly is, openly and proudly (just peruse celebrity twitter for Trump insults)? Nope, not even close.

He called Bette Midler ugly. Then she called for someone to stab him. Not a pretty exchange, but at this point, what difference does it make?

New rules. They stared it, Trump is finishing.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (W+vEI)

272 He was impeached for perjuring himself in a court
of law.

It always bothered me that this was what got him into trouble rather than all the other incredibly illegal crap like selling military secrets to china for foreign money laundered through Buddhist temples

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (39g3+)

273

Former Vice President Joe Biden said that if President Trump's administration continued to stonewall Congressional investigations, then the only option Congress will have is impeachment during an interview on Tuesday.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (aKsyK)

274 um ...... "insights" from French, or almost any of these people? What?

About what?

The entire "collusion" nonsense (and really the entire "Russian interference" silliness) was obviously crap for lightweights.

Never heard of French before the jaw-dropping farce of his 40-second "presidential campaign".

Smollett, French, Hillyer - who?

Posted by: Rhomboid at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (czdic)

275 266 The House can impeach on whatever it wants. However, to convict still requires 2/3 of the Senate and to get that they better have a darn good case for misconduct in office - high crimes and misdemeanors - to generate sufficient public support to get that many senators to vote to convict.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 02:56 PM (hLRSq)

Or, they just have to like Mitt Romney enough to follow him to their 30 pieces of silver.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (sm6Pk)

276
Cucks sweat in the sun
carving mighty Trump into
Mt. Rushmore's hard stones

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (uZPhU)

277 Even 1% of the US Population would be north of 3 Million Men.

There are an estimated 400 million firearms in America.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (yQpMk)

278 What is " cardinal enough to merit impeachment"?What "lunatics on the right"?Fuck that guy too.

Posted by: steevy at June 05, 2019 02:58 PM (AjVAj)

279 President and Mrs. Trump represented America, the USA, better than any presidential couple since Dwight and Mamie Eisenhower.

Only the third president to be invited to the big dinner. And the first to be invited back.

The Queen is pleased to Trump as a friend.
The Queen is pleased Trump is representing America.

And wasn't he gracious to Prime Minister May?
He exemplifies the best of America to the world.

Those toadies Goldberg, Kristol and their ilk need to find their safe rocks and go crawl under them.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2019 02:58 PM (pzRUn)

280 People are far too invested in emotion and politics instead of facts, intellectual conclusions and inferences easily made from evidence.

This is the fundamental problem in our society, and people like French are meant to be at least one of the guardians of that well-reasoned approach for the truth.

Truth, or in Latin, veritas, which is inscribed on about 90% of the college mottos in our country because it is the basis of knowledge- a search for the truth.

If only for a total abdication of that responsibility they should be embarrassed. But they are not, because they are too prideful and personally vested in a particular, bigoted, sectarian and therefore, fraudulent outcome.

It's really time to get rid of these recreants.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2019 02:58 PM (VpIIl)

281 Where is perjury called a high crime and misdemeanor?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (9cans)

Perjury can be a misdemeanor or a felony ( which most would consider a high crime) . I understand your point but some charges speak for themselves.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:58 PM (A3edJ)

282 stop and think for a bit about what No Rules really means.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 02:51 PM

Just right.

Posted by: Outback Steakhouse at June 05, 2019 02:58 PM (+EkXj)

283 WTF have you jagoffs done to my magazine?

Posted by: Zombie Bill Buckley at June 05, 2019 02:58 PM (GEpFD)

284 You're just playing word games here. If you posit that there are no actual rules, then any reason becomes a sufficient reason, even if a not valid one in the common sense of the word.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 05, 2019 02:55 PM (yQpMk)

That is exactly what he is saying, and exactly right.

This is why the Clinton team beat the drum that the impeachment was about sex, because lots of people were like, umm, no, that's not a high crime.

As a result, the failure to convict led to disastrous results electorally for Republicans. Newt Gingrich's zipper just piled on.

So the House can actually vote to impeach on ORANGE MAN BAD.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 02:59 PM (9VeU0)

285 2020 will hinge on the economy. If it's kicking ass like it is now, Trump wins. If the Deep State/FED manage to get us into a recession, he loses. I don't think it's much more complicated than that. All this shit about Mueller is noise to most voters, I think.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 02:59 PM (FiUMj)

286 Nick Frankovich - NEVER let this POS cuck off the hook.

Posted by: mikeyG at June 05, 2019 02:59 PM (LL1Be)

287 281 Where is perjury called a high crime and misdemeanor?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 02:50 PM (9cans)

Perjury can be a misdemeanor or a felony ( which most would consider a high crime) . I understand your point but some charges speak for themselves.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 02:58 PM (A3edJ)

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That's not at all my point.

People keep implying that there's some definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors". I want to know where it is and what it says.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (9cans)

288 Lizzy, please - he called Midler a "washed up psycho".

That's restaurant quality trash talk.

Posted by: Rhomboid at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (czdic)

289 #193 Yeah. It looks like the ABC wants to accuse Aussie troops (Special Forces?) of murdering civilians including "kids" in Afghanistan that's probably as bullshit as such accusations against U.S. military there and in Iraq.

The CBC tried the same bullshit here too that didn't pan out at all so it turned into "Canadian troops handed Afghan prisoners over to the Afghan authorities who 'might' have 'tortured' (i.e. roughed up) them so our guys are war criminals." Fuck that.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (Dh1wo)

290 Orange man very bad
Orange man very very bad
Orange man bad, damn it!

Posted by: Leftist Haikus R Us at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (GEpFD)

291 Dark is the night
Pale is the Moon
The Paolo visits.
Wife sighs
The cuck's in his shed.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (hLRSq)

292 Cucks sweat in the sun
carving mighty Trump into
Mt. Rushmore's hard stones

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (uZPhU)

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (pzRUn)

293 High crimes can be whatever the house wants it to be. It's like the pursuit of happiness. Try and define that.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (FiUMj)

294 "Someone said yesterday that Trump is Al Czervik from Caddyshack."

Well that was what I said during the campaign. Also Dangerfield from "Back To School"
Posted by: freaked

Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (7FpQ0)

295 And the rest of us say THANK YOU for not giving in to their tried and true tricks for silencing conservatives/Republicans.

Is he rude sometimes? You bet! Is he any more rude than the Left regularly is, openly and proudly (just peruse celebrity twitter for Trump insults)? Nope, not even close.

He called Bette Midler ugly. Then she called for someone to stab him. Not a pretty exchange, but at this point, what difference does it make?

New rules. They stared it, Trump is finishing.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (W+vEI)
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You've nailed it, Lizzy. Do I like everything he says? No. Would I say some of the things he says? No. Does that mean he's not a good president? No. I think he's been the best president of my lifetime thus far.

There are lots of people who say things I wouldn't, and I still like them. It is not incongruous to say President Trump is a good president but I don't always like everything he says.

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (aXucN)

296 Wasn't Rothman one the twitter circle jerkers mapping out post-election Purge of Trump supporters from conservative movement ... only one problem for them, turns out actually Trump won.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (hdzef)

297 293 High crimes can be whatever the house wants it to be. It's like the pursuit of happiness. Try and define that.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (FiUMj)

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Wrong document, but good point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (9cans)

298
That's not at all my point.

People keep implying that there's some definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors". I want to know where it is and what it says.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (9cans)

There are lots of terms in the Constitution that eventually get defined.

Some are STILL being defined by the Supremes on an almost daily basis.

Why should this term be any different?

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (NgKpN)

299 In a war, the enemy is defeated. Traitors fare much worse.
The NeverTrumpers don't realize that.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (jWe5r)

300 The House can impeach for whatever the heck they want.

Its not impossible that this president might actually challenge that in court though. I mean the constitution does give standards, its just nobody has ever challenged it to define what those mean.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:02 PM (39g3+)

301 Andrew Johnson was primarily impeached for violating the "Tenure in Office" act, which held that a President could not fire his Cabinet officers unless he got Permission from the Senate to do so. A few years later, that Act was thrown out by the Supreme Court as grossly Unconstitutional.

So, he came within one Senate vote of being kicked out of office for a completely unconstitutional "Crime".

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 03:02 PM (Kpl3J)

302 298
That's not at all my point.

People keep implying that there's some definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors". I want to know where it is and what it says.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (9cans)

There are lots of terms in the Constitution that eventually get defined.

Some are STILL being defined by the Supremes on an almost daily basis.

Why should this term be any different?
Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (NgKpN)

==========

Exactly. There's no definition yet.

SCOTUS may eventually try and provide one, but it's not there now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:02 PM (9cans)

303 People keep implying that there's some definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors". I want to know where it is and what it says.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:00 PM (9cans)

I didn't say that's your point. I said I understand your point. But your example that perjury cannot be defined as a high crime or misdemeanor by common definitions is incorrect.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 03:02 PM (A3edJ)

304 294 "Someone said yesterday that Trump is Al Czervik from Caddyshack."

Well that was what I said during the campaign. Also Dangerfield from "Back To School"
Posted by: freaked

Golf clap.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (7FpQ0)

Yup... the triple Lindy!

BIGLY!

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:03 PM (NgKpN)

305 Exactly. There's no definition yet.

SCOTUS may eventually try and provide one, but it's not there now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:02 PM (9cans)

It's a tax!

Posted by: Justice Roberts at June 05, 2019 03:03 PM (KUaJL)

306 It is not incongruous to say President Trump is a good president but I don't always like everything he says.

***

And that's something no Democrat voter will ever understand: the joy of independent thought.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:03 PM (GEpFD)

307 And wasn't he gracious to Prime Minister May?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2019 02:58 PM (pzRUn)

"Hey, Theresa, I've got some cardboard boxes you can use."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 05, 2019 03:03 PM (zmxYi)

308 People keep implying that there's some definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors".

The Federalist and anti Federalist papers did go into it some, but that has never really been defined (any more than the "good behavior" part of judicial impeachments)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:03 PM (39g3+)

309 If Congress wants to have a loosey-goosey standard, they are begging for SCOTUS to formally define the term.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 05, 2019 03:03 PM (eytER)

310 Wait a second, isn't the definition of high crimes in the section of the constitution that provides everyone with free abortions? Near the back.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 03:04 PM (FiUMj)

311 Its not impossible that this president might actually challenge that in court though. I mean the constitution does give standards, its just nobody has ever challenged it to define what those mean.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:02 PM (39g3+)

Hmm, impeachment for "Orange Man Bad...."

I'll allow it!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at June 05, 2019 03:04 PM (9VeU0)

312 301 Andrew Johnson was primarily impeached for violating the "Tenure in Office" act, which held that a President could not fire his Cabinet officers unless he got Permission from the Senate to do so. A few years later, that Act was thrown out by the Supreme Court as grossly Unconstitutional.

So, he came within one Senate vote of being kicked out of office for a completely unconstitutional "Crime".
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 03:02 PM (Kpl3J)

============

That's the longer, better version. I went with pithy by highlighting Article 10, which is purely nonsensical.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:04 PM (9cans)

313 Hawaiian Judge would be a good name for a band.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:04 PM (GEpFD)

314 Former Vice President Joe Biden said that if President Trump's administration continued to stonewall Congressional investigations, then the only option Congress will have is impeachment during an interview on Tuesday.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (aKsyK)

Who did he take that comment from?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 05, 2019 03:04 PM (OLCnA)

315 >>Lizzy, please - he called Midler a "washed up psycho".

That's restaurant quality trash talk.

Heh, thanks. I get his insults confused.

I recall that AJ Benza article about Trump, how Trump was AJ's best source for gossip in the 80's (or 90's?) in exchange for publishing complimentary gossip on Trump. The man has been collecting oppo research on the political/celebrity class for decades, and he no doubt crafts his insults to hit 'em where it hurts (low IQ Mika with her bloody face!). LOLGF, indeed!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 03:04 PM (W+vEI)

316 Why can't French and other neverTrumpers hate Trump while also hating the use of the justice and intelligence systems to mount a coup against a duly elected president and despising the corrupt Robert Mueller?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at June 05, 2019 03:05 PM (JgA4k)

317 Bette, shut up and sing.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2019 03:05 PM (pzRUn)

318 Exactly. There's no definition yet.

SCOTUS may eventually try and provide one, but it's not there now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:02 PM (9cans)

And if the Dems push the 'Obstruction of Justice' charge, with no underlying Crime? It should get to that level.

If they say 'obstruction of Justice', which DOES have a legal definition, and then don't follow the Law itself?

It would be an Ex Post Facto Law, and thus beyond the Constitution anyway.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

319 Who did he take that comment from?

***

His ass.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:05 PM (GEpFD)

320 I say the Dems don't have a hair on their ass if they don't impeach.

Bring it.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 03:06 PM (9VeU0)

321 314 Former Vice President Joe Biden said that if President Trump's administration continued to stonewall Congressional investigations, then the only option Congress will have is impeachment during an interview on Tuesday.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (aKsyK)

Who did he take that comment from?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 05, 2019 03:04 PM (OLCnA)

Slawell?

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:06 PM (NgKpN)

322 318
If they say 'obstruction of Justice', which DOES have a legal definition, and then don't follow the Law itself?

It would be an Ex Post Facto Law, and thus beyond the Constitution anyway.
Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

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Assuming SCOTUS decides to get involved at all.

They may just say, "Political fight between branches of government. We're not getting involved."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:06 PM (9cans)

323 Bette, shut up and sing.

***

Or better still, just shut up completely.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:06 PM (GEpFD)

324 Does anyone have Paolo's contact information?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Captain Bill at June 05, 2019 02:55 PM

Rest assured, little man. The Paolo, he is many steps ahead of you. Also, he believes you need higher thread count sheets.

Posted by: Paolo at June 05, 2019 03:06 PM (OF95o)

325 Yup... the triple Lindy!

Yeah he actually fits the Thorton Melon character better than he does Al Czervic. Czervic was hilarious but you never could really get a sense on who on earth someone like that could have gotten so wealthy. But Thorton was clearly very skilled in business and had surprising gifts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:06 PM (39g3+)

326 TJM is right and was trying to make the point that impeachment is (unavoidably) political, at bottom. Does not mean there is no substance to it. Clinton clearly committed perjury and obstruction of justice - slam dunk case. Failure to convict him was a huge blow to the civil society, which has mostly been in free fall since (owing to many other things, as well).

Posted by: Rhomboid at June 05, 2019 03:06 PM (czdic)

327 296 Wasn't Rothman one the twitter circle jerkers mapping out post-election Purge of Trump supporters from conservative movement ... only one problem for them, turns out actually Trump won.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at June 05, 2019 03:01 PM (hdzef)

Rothman has always been a lefty dweeb even way back in his Mediaite days.

It's just that everybody else there were such screeching monsters it almost made him look relatively sane by comparison.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 05, 2019 03:06 PM (sm6Pk)

328 Czervic was hilarious but you never could really get a sense on who on earth someone like that could have gotten so wealthy.

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I'm guessing inheritance.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:07 PM (GEpFD)

329 273

Former Vice President Joe Biden said that if President Trump's administration continued to stonewall Congressional investigations, then the only option Congress will have is impeachment during an interview on Tuesday.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (aKsyK)

Lean into the chicken, Joe. Give it a rub and a sniff before you, you know, introduce yourself.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 05, 2019 03:07 PM (RD7QR)

330 The Dems will continue flogging themselves. The best chance they have is the Fed raising interest rates at an inappropriate time.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2019 03:07 PM (pzRUn)

331 Lean into the chicken, Joe. Give it a rub and a sniff before you, you know, introduce yourself.

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Boy howdy, I sure am glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (GEpFD)

332 Former Vice President Joe Biden said that if President Trump's administration continued to stonewall Congressional investigations, then the only option Congress will have is impeachment during an interview on Tuesday.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2019 02:57 PM (aKsyK)

Easy for him to say, he doesn't actually have to do anything. That The Penguin is calling in John Dean to testify shows to me that the Democrats know it is over and are just milking the theater of it all for money and to keep their rabid base from primarying them.

Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

333 If they say 'obstruction of Justice', which DOES have a legal definition, and then don't follow the Law itself?

It would be an Ex Post Facto Law, and thus beyond the Constitution anyway.
Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

I saw Maryland Congresscritter Jamie Raskin state, categorically, that there were multiple instances of obstruction of justice outlined in the Mueller report, and that Trump was compounding it by obstructing Congress.

They do not care about facts, or laws, or any of that.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (9VeU0)

334 They may just say, "Political fight between branches of government. We're not getting involved."

Which I would accept as a valid response. Probably in the long run better than the SCOTUS defining the constitution, again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (39g3+)

335 They do not care about facts, or laws, or any of that.

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Why start now?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:09 PM (GEpFD)

336 328 Czervic was hilarious but you never could really get a sense on who on earth someone like that could have gotten so wealthy.

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I'm guessing inheritance.
Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:07 PM (GEpFD)

Actually, he was a Land developer. Talked about buying the club and putting in Condos.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:09 PM (NgKpN)

337
Why does Joey Choo-Choo cross the road?

His dicks stuck in the Chicken!

HaHaHa. I crack myself up.

Fvcker never sniffed MY hair...

Posted by: Hitlery Cliton at June 05, 2019 03:09 PM (UFLLM)

338 Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (hLRSq)
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Who did this to you, Mikey? Who stole your first name?

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 03:09 PM (aXucN)

339 >>Yeah he actually fits the Thorton Melon character better than he does Al Czervic.

Yes, the scene where he corrects the snooty British Econ professor during his lecture on starting a "widget" company is a classic.

This is Trump vs. the DC swamp every day.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 03:09 PM (W+vEI)

340 334 They may just say, "Political fight between branches of government. We're not getting involved."

Which I would accept as a valid response. Probably in the long run better than the SCOTUS defining the constitution, again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (39g3+)

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I agree.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:10 PM (9cans)

341 I forgive you. Say two Hail Marys and pray that that chick gets a clue some day.
Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 02:56 PM (aXucN)

I feel sorry for her. She was a beautiful, albeit stupid, teen and now she, her boyfriend, giant butt, and cremated mouse live in Park Fairfax. She amuses herself with climate advocacy. No kids, no real career, no marriage, no church, no real hobbies, no guns, no meat, no clue.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 03:10 PM (nRWPy)

342 Fvcker never sniffed MY hair...

***

Probably because it smells like booze.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:10 PM (GEpFD)

343 Spiderbody.

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despite her body...... VERY well done.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 05, 2019 02:16 PM (8XRCm)

so, the fat girl at 3 am?

I've heard them called mopeds. because you'll ride them, but you don't want your friends to see you...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 05, 2019 03:10 PM (8D42x)

344 That The Penguin is calling in John Dean to testify shows to me that the Democrats know it is over and are just milking the theater of it all for money and to keep their rabid base from primarying them.
Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (y7DUB)

345 That's the longer, better version. I went with pithy by highlighting Article 10, which is purely nonsensical.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:04 PM (9cans)

Yes, and that was a good point to bring up! It's worth noting that back in England insulting the Parliament WAS a crime, and Parliament had simply carried on an old favorite law of the English and French Kings known as "Lese Majeste", which made it a crime for any commoner to criticize the Sovereign in public - truth or falsehood had nothing at all to do with it.

You can still see progressives and their allies trying to invoke "Lese Majeste" whenever anyone lodges any criticism of Obama or anyone else who they're currently worshiping. That's another "crime" in their eyes that Trump commits constantly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (Kpl3J)

346 You can take our lives but you will never take....our BUUURRRRRIIIIITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (dNzKv)

347 Who did this to you, Mikey? Who stole your first name?

Posted by: bluebell at June 05, 2019 03:09 PM (aXucN)

Squirrels - got it back, though it cost me in pecans and walnuts.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (hLRSq)

348 The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?

***

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess pretty goddamned close to 100%.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (GEpFD)

349 The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (y7DUB)

I think they know the answer to that.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 03:12 PM (9VeU0)

350 I saw Maryland Congresscritter Jamie Raskin state, categorically, that there were multiple instances of obstruction of justice outlined in the Mueller report,

Only under the discredited and shat on legal theory worked up by Weissman in the Enron prosecutions which SCOTUS overturned. Barr already wrote a memo to that effect, ie those instances aren't "under law" obstruction of justice. He wrote the report using those instances for political impeachment, not indictment or any court room since they have already been discredited and deemed ridiculous under the actual law.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 03:13 PM (nRWPy)

351 349 The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (y7DUB)

I think they know the answer to that.
Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 03:12 PM (9VeU0)

And there's a milkshake waiting for them if they get it wrong.

Posted by: Totes Rational Tolerant Lib at June 05, 2019 03:13 PM (u9hp4)

352 344 That The Penguin is calling in John Dean to testify shows to me that the Democrats know it is over and are just milking the theater of it all for money and to keep their rabid base from primarying them.
Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?"

I wrote in JJ's morning thread, next up, Nadler is going to call in Martin Sheen to testify as to that Josiah Bartlett would have done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 03:13 PM (Kpl3J)

353 I saw Maryland Congresscritter Jamie Raskin state, categorically, that there were multiple instances of obstruction of justice outlined in the Mueller report, and that Trump was compounding it by obstructing Congress.

They do not care about facts, or laws, or any of that.

Posted by: blaster

The house might not. But the Senate will.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 03:13 PM (7FpQ0)

354 Easy for him to say, he doesn't actually have to do anything. That The Penguin is calling in John Dean to testify shows to me that the Democrats know it is over and are just milking the theater of it all for money and to keep their rabid base from primarying them.
Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

Remember when the Demunists claimed they had youth on their side? How many of them know anything about Watergate? And if they learned, they would realize that what the Obamunist and Shrillary did makes Watergate look small.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 05, 2019 03:14 PM (ujg0T)

355 350 I saw Maryland Congresscritter Jamie Raskin state, categorically, that there were multiple instances of obstruction of justice outlined in the Mueller report,

Only under the discredited and shat on legal theory worked up by Weissman in the Enron prosecutions which SCOTUS overturned. Barr already wrote a memo to that effect, ie those instances aren't "under law" obstruction of justice. He wrote the report using those instances for political impeachment, not indictment or any court room since they have already been discredited and deemed ridiculous under the actual law.
Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 03:13 PM (nRWPy)

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Democrats aren't serious about impeachment anyway.

If they were there would be some kind of special committee tasked with drafting impeachment articles meeting officially and daily right now.

Instead we just have Nadler and a few back benchers talking shit while not actually doing anything.

It's a show for the rubes. They'll repeal and replace Trump just as soon as they get five more dollars. Can you chip in and help?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:14 PM (9cans)

356 351 349 The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (y7DUB)

75%, easily. And they are fixated on getting the Golden Scalp Weasel.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:15 PM (hLRSq)

357 Only under the discredited and shat on legal theory worked up by Weissman in the Enron prosecutions which SCOTUS overturned. Barr already wrote a memo to that effect, ie those instances aren't "under law" obstruction of justice. He wrote the report using those instances for political impeachment, not indictment or any court room since they have already been discredited and deemed ridiculous under the actual law.
Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 03:13 PM (nRWPy)

Well, no.

There are not actually instances of obstruction of justice outlined in the Mueller report. Not even the made up Weissman kind.

They simply aren't there.

Raskin was part of the reading of the Mueller report on the floor of the House. He knows. He doesn't care.

Even if there were rules for impeachment and evidence and all of that, they don't give two shits about them.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 03:15 PM (9VeU0)

358

Mmmmm, I like milkshakes. Specially chocky shakes... best served in Huma's Cavern of Doom...

Posted by: Hitlery Cliton, Ex Esq at June 05, 2019 03:15 PM (UFLLM)

359 The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?

***

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess pretty goddamned close to 100%.
Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (GEpFD)

I think they know the answer to that.
Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 03:12 PM (9VeU0)

Assuming that's correct, can they win anything at the national level if candidates like Trump call them out?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 05, 2019 03:16 PM (y7DUB)

360 I feel sorry for her. She was a beautiful, albeit stupid, teen and now she, her boyfriend, giant butt, and cremated mouse live in Park Fairfax. She amuses herself with climate advocacy. No kids, no real career, no marriage, no church, no real hobbies, no guns, no meat, no clue.
Posted by: dagny

No reason to live. One might as well just kill themselves.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2019 03:17 PM (7FpQ0)

361
Fvcked by the Nood Fvckers...

Posted by: Hitlery Cliton, Ex Esq at June 05, 2019 03:17 PM (UFLLM)

362 I'd like to ask David French how many Senators and Congressmen have higher moral standards than DJT. I doubt there's a whole lot.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at June 05, 2019 03:17 PM (JgA4k)

363 Remember when the Demunists claimed they had youth on their side?

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I'm assuming this was before their frontrunners were two white guys with a combined age of 153?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:17 PM (GEpFD)

364 People keep implying that there's some definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors". I want to know where it is and what it says.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

********
Sorry but I get the impression you keep implying that people are doing that when they are not. That fact has been made abundantly clear. No defintion. Got it. What I see people doing is implying that there are certain logical requirements for that finding and you're implying there are not.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 03:17 PM (eaG60)

365 I have a feeling that Pelosi will see that the content of the articles of impeachment to be submitted will be ridiculed by the few same on the Left and will be so obviously ridiculous that the common voter will say WTF. She won't let it happen.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 05, 2019 03:18 PM (A3edJ)

366
Instead we just have Nadler and a few back benchers talking shit while not actually doing anything.

It's a show for the rubes. They'll repeal and replace Trump just as soon as they get five more dollars. Can you chip in and help?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:14 PM (9cans)

What they really want to do is use the Impeachment power of Congress, and its subpoena powers, to do the Opposition research they paid Steele and Mueller to do.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 05, 2019 03:18 PM (NgKpN)

367 328 Czervic was hilarious but you never could really get a sense on who on earth someone like that could have gotten so wealthy.

___

Lots of people like that in the real world. Guy starts a small plumbing company, next thing you know he has 500 employees in 10 states. That type of thing.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 03:18 PM (FiUMj)

368 >>The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?

Define their base. I'm guessing the only voices that matter to them are the media and entertainment industries, plus a handful of Lefty activist billionaires who fund them and the various organizations that make things happen. Recall that the featured speakers at a recent Dem Congressional retreat were. . . Obama pal (singer) John Legend and his obnoxious wife.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2019 03:18 PM (W+vEI)

369 It is folly to think that rules or definitions or whatnot are in play with impeachment. Raskin is not alone in stating that the Mueller report details obstruction of justice by the President. Hell, Nadler says it details both Russian collusion and obstruction.

If they are willing to declare things that are obviously untrue, then they will impeach for any reason whatsoever, because they do not care.

They might as well just do Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: blaster at June 05, 2019 03:18 PM (9VeU0)

370 364 What I see people doing is implying that there are certain logical requirements for that finding and you're implying there are not.
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at June 05, 2019 03:17 PM (eaG60)

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If there's no legal requirement for what impeachment is, then the entire process isn't legal. It's political. The only limiting factor is political will.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:19 PM (9cans)

371 since the Mueller report is a ONE sided listing of facts gleanded from many sources and compiled to support the impeachment of Trump, of course it has things that look bad. it is written guilty until proven innocent. every point I have seen has an strong answer, its just is not there (yet as no Democrat wants or needs balance)

Posted by: tx32 represent-less at June 05, 2019 03:19 PM (1XtI9)

372 The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?

***

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess pretty goddamned close to 100%.
Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (GEpFD)

What do they do with all the drool and spittle after a caucus meeting?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at June 05, 2019 03:19 PM (JgA4k)

373 which made it a crime for any commoner to criticize the Sovereign in public - truth or falsehood had nothing at all to do with it.

One of the first cases of jury nullification in America was a libel case when a newspaper accurately and truthfully reported the crimes of the Governor (NY if I recall correctly) before the revolution. Back then it was just illegal to say ill of representatives of the crown, the only point of the trial was to find out if it happened or not.

The jury decided that the claims were true, and hence could not be libelous, and found him not guilty. No word if they flipped off the judge or not. This was the foundation of America's concepts of freedom of the press.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:19 PM (39g3+)

374 nood

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:20 PM (hLRSq)

375 344 That The Penguin is calling in John Dean to testify shows to me that the Democrats know it is over and are just milking the theater of it all for money and to keep their rabid base from primarying them.
Posted by: NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 05, 2019 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

The unanswered question the donks have is how much of their base is full retard?
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 05, 2019 03:11 PM (y7DUB)

CONGRESSMAN NADLER: Mx. Bittersnake-Cockblock, how would you describe your hatred for President Trump?

MX. BITTERSNAKE-COCKBLOCK: Like not having avocado toast and the only alternative is bacon!

[sobbing, testimony drowned out]

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 05, 2019 03:21 PM (RD7QR)

376 Did Ace make a joke once about Jonah and the Pulitzer prize? That would explain that particular claim; Goldberg just copied it out.

But this whole Franco-Ahmari war delights me. For ages I've been railing against the totally one-note version of "fusion" conservatism on Lowry's watch. Gone were the days when I first started to read NR in the 60s (and which dated from its founding), when the contributors were engaged in serious internal disagreements on fundamental issues.

No doubt they still debate, but somehow "is a pineapple pizza a sandwich?" doesn't quite stand up beside this:
https://tinyurl.com/y7ynlfka
(The original Meyer piece is link in the above; both should be read.)

And I am convinced a lot of the Never Trump problem comes from this death of debate. They would not have been so astonished, and their noses not be so out of joint, had people been calling BS on them within their own pages. The fell into the left's trap of believing that they were the only game in town.

I realize that many will put the problem down entirely to corruption. But I'm with C S Lewis, the road to corruption is gradual. And here, in a purportedly intellectual venue, I believe it started with intellectual corruption (just as in the faculty of Bracton College.)

Posted by: Eeyore at June 05, 2019 03:21 PM (VaN/j)

377 If there's no legal requirement for what impeachment is, then the entire process isn't legal. It's political. The only limiting factor is political will.

I agree, if congress was taken over by a bunch of hateful bigots, then they could have just impeached and removed Obama from office simply because they don't like the schwarze. The trial would be some drummed up crap as a thin justification, and that's just wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:21 PM (39g3+)

378 There are not actually instances of obstruction of justice outlined in the Mueller report. Not even the made up Weissman kind.

The Weissman version insists that any defense or anything that interrupts their prosecution is obstruction. Section II is all about instances of ways that Trump by saying he's innocent and acting normally could have "obstructed." Anything other than holding your wrists out for cuffs is deemed as "obstruction" by Weissman under that legal theory.

If you listen to Barr, he keeps saying "not under the law." He also keeps referring to "staff" which means Weissman and their 'legal theory."

Weissman hoped to dangle these pseudo and discredited theories of "obstruction" before the press in a slow roll out so that by the time section 2 had been properly redacted that everyone thought there had actually been obstruction.

It worked on the Enron and the Martha Stewart juries and they saw no reason it wouldn't work for congress and public opinion.

Barr screwed that up by writing up his summary with findings before they could do the slow leak drip.

Posted by: dagny at June 05, 2019 03:24 PM (nRWPy)

379 Lots of people like that in the real world. Guy starts a small plumbing company, next thing you know he has 500 employees in 10 states. That type of thing.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 03:18 PM (FiUMj)

If you drive in Texas you know about Buc-ee's Mega Interstate stops that have been taking over the state, and expanding elsewhere. (made the cover of Texas Monthly a couple months ago) 35 years ago, owners "Beaver" Aplin and Don Wasek, now multimillionaires, were two young broke guys running a glorified cigarette shack in a strip mall in nowheresville, Texas. It's really an amazing story.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2019 03:26 PM (Kpl3J)

380 David French is to journalism as is Schwinn bicycles are to fish.

Get on the G-D deck, swabbie - it don't mop itself..

Posted by: Pinochet Air Tours Flt Attendant at June 05, 2019 03:34 PM (67aEn)

381 I agree, if congress was taken over by a bunch of hateful bigots, then they could have just impeached and removed Obama from office simply because they don't like the schwarze. The trial would be some drummed up crap as a thin justification, and that's just wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2019 03:21 PM (39g3+)

Crappy example.

Barky should have been impeached ... 100 times over. It was amazing how many laws he broke and how many un-Constitutional acts he committed and how much he set out to harm America's interest. Just amazing. But it would have taken serious people with some guts to do that, which we were so sorely lacking. We'll see if we have serious people with guts to throw his America-hating treasonous ass in jail.

The only reason Barky wasn't impeached (the only reason he was even elected) was because he was black.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 05, 2019 03:36 PM (UqwnA)

382 381 The only reason Barky wasn't impeached (the only reason he was even elected) was because he was black.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 05, 2019 03:36 PM (UqwnA)

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Political will, the other side of the coin.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 05, 2019 03:41 PM (9cans)

383 I remember when Goldberg started his complete flip-flop to say that no one in DC really believed in collusion. I thought Mollie Hemingway was going to have a stroke on air.

Posted by: motionview at June 05, 2019 03:45 PM (pYQR/)

384 Mollie Hemingway usually makes Jonah cry on Special Report when they're on together - which is kind of like watching a car crash - gruesome but you just can't turn away, especially while she's simply flaying that fucktard alive on national TV.

Posted by: Boswell at June 05, 2019 03:49 PM (32YRo)

385 I say dear chaps, what a fine bill this is, eh?
- Super Conservative Mittens

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 05, 2019 03:53 PM (FiUMj)

386 The only reason Barky wasn't impeached (the only reason he was even elected) was because he was black.

Yep.

His crew came into government expecting the Democrats would be in power for at least a decade, they could get away with anything. It started with the New Black Panther voter-intimidation giveaway and continued from there.

The Omerta Administration didn't have a Cabinet, it had a Cellblock, but no one called them on it.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2019 03:54 PM (8erNz)

387 Can pseudonymous bloggers be nominated for the Pulitzer?

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Braun's technology is represented well in the blades around the Series 3.
The engine is not as strong as the Series 7, and it's
possible that the blades are all created. Braun's Series 7 7865 was known as a system by and should it we n't considered price it'd be difficult to justify choosing anything else.

The trimmer does a great job of cutting your pubic hair to nearly skin level, whereas the foil shaver head will leave your skin smooth.
the razors are designed to run moist, it's pretty easy to disperse some soap onto
the foil while the head is chilled and run the
shaver engine , in the same way the cleaning rack does. Nearly all razor blades operate sharper, better, and more
comfortable with oil.

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