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Gun Thread: Customer Service [Weasel]
Last week I included a link sent in by redc14 on a Kimber firearm recall. The issue, I think, was some sort of defective optics base plate that could potentially come off and cause problems for the shooter. Anyhoo, I asked what sort of experiences people have had with various firearm manufacturers customer service and while the question elicited a few comments during the thread, I also received a number of emails on the topic and I thought it might be fun to discuss it a little more this week.
Before I became a wildly rich and famous writer of gun threads, I used to spend some time on a few different gun discussion forums. I happen to own a few Sig Sauer pistols and Smith & Wesson revolvers and discussion boards for these products were a place I spent some time where factory customer service was a frequent topic. Overall, I'd say the Smith & Wesson comments were almost all wildly positive, and while a little more balanced, the Sig Sauer comments were in general very favorable.
Although I have never had a firearm recalled or even experienced a serious problem, I have had occasion to contact each of these company's customer service departments for technical advice or to order small parts. Without exception, the representatives I spoke with were knowledgeable, courteous and helpful; and frequently provided small parts such as springs, pins and the like at no charge. I cannot honestly say I have had anything close to a bad experience with either one. One place that I received remarkable customer service was with the CMP. I decided to have a M1917 rebarreled and cannot say enough about the people I dealt with at their Anniston, AL Custom Shop, or the work they did on my rifle. Due to the volume of work they receive, you fill out some forms and are placed on a waitlist before sending them your gun. In my case the wait was about 6 months but I wasn't in a hurry, so it wasn't a big deal. When the time came, I discussed at length how I wanted the chamber on the new barrel cut and they did it exactly as I requested. Honestly, I was not expecting them to be nearly as accommodating to my special requests as they were, but rather expected them to offer a single 'standard' chamber profile. The turnaround time was fast and they even replaced a few internal parts which they observed were worn at no charge and without being asked to do so. Amazing service they must perform hundreds of times a month. And these experiences were not only limited to big manufacturers. In fact, I have had really nothing but favorable experiences with firearms related product manufacturers of all sizes, including some very small outfits producing highly specialized parts and tools. I suspect this is because firearms owners and enthusiasts are typically a friendly lot and most of the people working in these businesses are shooters, as well. I honestly cannot think of another single industry that is so well represented. So my experiences have all been favorable. How about yours? In an age of impersonal online retailers, most of the time all aspects of customer service and product support seem to have long vanished in the rear-view mirror. Have you had a noteworthy personal experience with firearms related companies, good or bad?Well now let's see what else there is to talk about: It happened again this week, this time in Virginia Beach. A lunatic went into a city office building and started shooting co-workers. Before the cops showed up and ended the carnage there were 12 dead, six wounded and countless lives changed forever. The city building in question was by policy a designated "Gun Free Zone" and apparently everyone was following the rules except the asshole doing the shooting. The Crime Prevention Research Center statistics show that between 1950 and 2018, 97.8% of mass public shootings have occurred in areas where citizens are prohibited from protecting themselves and others. Think about that. Think about the difference one or more armed employees in the building could have made in the outcome of this senseless act. Clearly, legislators in Louisiana are paying attention.
Just in time for Father's Day! Our pal rhomboid sends us this interesting link to a website by a guy who seems to know a lot about WWII flamethrowers. This website is worth poking around on for a while. There is a ton of good information and it's well presented. Thanks rhomboid!
Ballistic Coefficient is a measure of a projectile's ability to overcome air resistance, and becomes more important as we shoot at longer distances. Introduction to the G1 and G7 Ballistic Drag Models WARNING: MATH! Expect to see this material again.
Article: Reminders for Giving Firearms for Father's Day
Shooting Times: Revolver vs. Semiauto - A Ballistic Oddity
Great Article: Ammoland - S&W New Departure Safety Hammerless
Inaugural Creedmoor 150 Match - Muzzleloaders!
I saw the Henry side gate .30-30 lever action and I had to have it. I have a soft spot for lever actions. Hope to pop a few rounds off very soon. My first Henry!
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Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 02, 2019 07:01 PM (JUOKG)
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My new 12 ga Mossberg 590 Mariner would not eject spent shells properly right out of the box.
I probably could have fixed it myself but, as I said, right out of the box. So, I called Mossberg customer service, they gave me a return number and back she went. A week or two it came back better than new.
But, I was a bit annoyed by the complete lack of any paperwork with the return. No explanation, no note that said sorry for the inconvenience and no offer to reimburse me for the shipping back to them.
I don't think I asked for too much.
I probably could have fixed it myself but, as I said, right out of the box. So, I called Mossberg customer service, they gave me a return number and back she went. A week or two it came back better than new.
But, I was a bit annoyed by the complete lack of any paperwork with the return. No explanation, no note that said sorry for the inconvenience and no offer to reimburse me for the shipping back to them.
I don't think I asked for too much.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 02, 2019 07:05 PM (Y4EXg)
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I don't think I asked for too much.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 02, 2019 07:05 PM (Y4EXg)
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At a minimum I would think a note of explanation was warranted.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 02, 2019 07:05 PM (Y4EXg)
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At a minimum I would think a note of explanation was warranted.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 07:07 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Can't Help It at June 02, 2019 07:09 PM (jDEFw)
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The Crime Prevention Research Center statistics show that between 1950 and 2018, 97.8% of mass public
shootings have occurred in areas where citizens are prohibited from
protecting themselves and others.--------------
If we only had some measurable way to figure out where the next crazy person will strike.
Why bother? Just hassle those who follow the law. It's easier and more profitable!
shootings have occurred in areas where citizens are prohibited from
protecting themselves and others.--------------
If we only had some measurable way to figure out where the next crazy person will strike.
Why bother? Just hassle those who follow the law. It's easier and more profitable!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 07:11 PM (sy5kK)
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I had a S&W 442 with an out of spec hand (the thing that pushes against the cylinder pawl). My gunsmith shipped it and received it so I wasn't actually involved at all. I was a little annoyed that it got through QC in the first place, especially on what is by design a self-defense firearm, but I can't complain about how it was handled.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 07:11 PM (qc+VF)
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Browning is re-doing a "saltwater" Superposed Lightning we picked up for a song. only the 20 gauge set was bad, but they are re-doing the whole gun so everything matches.
it took us a year to come up with the scratch to pay for it, and it's going to take about that long for the w*rk to get done. current ETA is Christmas time this year.
as they said: the good news is that we have the two best Superposed techs in the world to w*rk on that model, but the bad news is that there's only two of them."
our two favorite local toy stores both have great gunsmiths, so no horror stories there.
it took us a year to come up with the scratch to pay for it, and it's going to take about that long for the w*rk to get done. current ETA is Christmas time this year.
as they said: the good news is that we have the two best Superposed techs in the world to w*rk on that model, but the bad news is that there's only two of them."
our two favorite local toy stores both have great gunsmiths, so no horror stories there.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 07:11 PM (znxDN)
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Anyhoo, I asked what sort of experiences people have had with various firearm manufacturers customer service and while the question elicited a few comments during the thread
Dear Winchester,
I have my Dad's model 94 from 1949 and his bolt action .22 from some time earlier than that. They're both fine and hit what they're aimed at.
Very truly yours,
Bander
Dear Winchester,
I have my Dad's model 94 from 1949 and his bolt action .22 from some time earlier than that. They're both fine and hit what they're aimed at.
Very truly yours,
Bander
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2019 07:11 PM (fuK7c)
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oh yeah...
then there was the time that Jim SND sold us the Class 3 O/U shotgun.
it went back to Mossberg, who fixed it, and then, apparently to test it, send someone out to the range with a case of shells, 'cause you could have planted 'taters in the bore for all the buildup.
no explanation on how they fixed it either.
come to think of it, i don't think it's been back out for us to try since then either.
we need to get out more.
then there was the time that Jim SND sold us the Class 3 O/U shotgun.
it went back to Mossberg, who fixed it, and then, apparently to test it, send someone out to the range with a case of shells, 'cause you could have planted 'taters in the bore for all the buildup.
no explanation on how they fixed it either.
come to think of it, i don't think it's been back out for us to try since then either.
we need to get out more.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 07:15 PM (znxDN)
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Question for my far more knowledgeable on firearms friends:
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
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Good stuff, Weasel. Thank you!
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at June 02, 2019 07:18 PM (IfYaq)
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Afternoon/evening all.
Question for my fellow Texans:
Do any of you ever ignore gun free zones here, whether they have the 51% sign in say restaurants, or are some other facility?
Just curious.
Question for my fellow Texans:
Do any of you ever ignore gun free zones here, whether they have the 51% sign in say restaurants, or are some other facility?
Just curious.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 07:20 PM (d+hd5)
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WARNING: MATH! Expect to see this material again.
OMG!!! It's going to be on the final! I wasn't expecting a final exam.
OMG!!! It's going to be on the final! I wasn't expecting a final exam.
Posted by: Agitator at June 02, 2019 07:20 PM (m9DnX)
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No mention of H&K's legendary service motto?
"Because you suck, and we hate you!"
*sigh* Wistful memories ofbetter earlier times.
Anyone know if H&K still sets the standard for customer (dis) service?
Conversely, there's Taurus....who until recently, had legendary bad customer service. Not because we sucked, or that they hated us.
But in spite of themselves, no matter how hard they tried.
My understanding is, that now with their new U.S. based Service Center (vs. sending to Brazil), that things have greatly improved. Again though, no direct experience, myself.
Going off topic though, I will absolutely vouch for Gerber Knives service. No need for the "stories", just trust that they were first rate, in every regard.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
"Because you suck, and we hate you!"
*sigh* Wistful memories of
Anyone know if H&K still sets the standard for customer (dis) service?
Conversely, there's Taurus....who until recently, had legendary bad customer service. Not because we sucked, or that they hated us.
But in spite of themselves, no matter how hard they tried.
My understanding is, that now with their new U.S. based Service Center (vs. sending to Brazil), that things have greatly improved. Again though, no direct experience, myself.
Going off topic though, I will absolutely vouch for Gerber Knives service. No need for the "stories", just trust that they were first rate, in every regard.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 07:20 PM (QzJWU)
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What part of the country are you from, by the way?
A vegan, an atheist, a cross-fitter and a Texan walk into a bar...
https://youtu.be/7xk9-lVpttE
(youtube - Ray Wylie Hubbard)
A vegan, an atheist, a cross-fitter and a Texan walk into a bar...
https://youtu.be/7xk9-lVpttE
(youtube - Ray Wylie Hubbard)
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 07:20 PM (qc+VF)
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Reports I read the Va Beach mass murderer used a 45.
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 07:21 PM (BbGew)
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Good stuff, Weasel. Thank you!
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at June 02, 2019 07:18 PM (IfYaq)
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my pleasure!
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at June 02, 2019 07:18 PM (IfYaq)
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my pleasure!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 07:22 PM (MVjcR)
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I had some kinda problem with my new S&W 1911, called and they knew what it was a shipped me a part.
Oh now I remember, I was taking it apart to clean it and something shot out of the mechanism and got lost in my room. Lol. Anyway they sent me another whatever it was pdq.
Oh now I remember, I was taking it apart to clean it and something shot out of the mechanism and got lost in my room. Lol. Anyway they sent me another whatever it was pdq.
Posted by: Tu abuela tambien at June 02, 2019 07:22 PM (efMXe)
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Shot a rifle/pistol competition yesterday.
Won Top Rifle, just missed Top Gun. Got a cool hat out of it.
First time event and I hope this outfit, 82nd Airborne, retired, builds it up and it become a regular event.
Won Top Rifle, just missed Top Gun. Got a cool hat out of it.
First time event and I hope this outfit, 82nd Airborne, retired, builds it up and it become a regular event.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 02, 2019 07:22 PM (WEBkv)
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Another day, another inability to post more than a sentence without the "Server 500 error"
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:22 PM (jdGlx)
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I collect mostly surplus weapons and ammo.
I have dealt with people such as AIM Surplus, Liberty Tree Collectors, SARCO Inc. and Numrich Gun Parts to name a few. All have been excellent in customer service, price and answers to questions and whatnot.
Numrich especially with their schematics showing rifles and pistols with their parts list have been extremely helpful.
Just my two cents worth.
I have dealt with people such as AIM Surplus, Liberty Tree Collectors, SARCO Inc. and Numrich Gun Parts to name a few. All have been excellent in customer service, price and answers to questions and whatnot.
Numrich especially with their schematics showing rifles and pistols with their parts list have been extremely helpful.
Just my two cents worth.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 02, 2019 07:23 PM (Z+IKu)
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Can you buy .22 ammo in NY with an out of state ID?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 02, 2019 07:23 PM (+fPHo)
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Hot damn, the gun thread! First the book thread, then the food thread, the Nats took two of three from the Reds and now the gun thread. This has been a good day.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 07:23 PM (bmdz3)
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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?
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Just the one atop my stove, but that's for the previous thread.
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Just the one atop my stove, but that's for the previous thread.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 02, 2019 07:23 PM (ta49A)
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Going to try and zero my Mosin Nagant PU sniper next week when the range is not crowded. You have to zero it through the mount and ten tweak it through the scope. I'm going to bring a file, sandpaper in case I have to adjust the mount if POI is too far left, and a aluminum can and snips if I have to shim it if POI is too far to the right. I got a chamber laser device for initial zero.
Also going to shoot my new to me police turn in Glock 17 and my new to me 1944 SW Victory model that is about 95% or better finish. May bring the Taurus PT92 C Compact to see if it still has an extraction issue.
Also going to shoot my new to me police turn in Glock 17 and my new to me 1944 SW Victory model that is about 95% or better finish. May bring the Taurus PT92 C Compact to see if it still has an extraction issue.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:23 PM (jdGlx)
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Reports I read the Va Beach mass murderer used a 45.
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 07:21 PM (BbGew)
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Same here.
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 07:21 PM (BbGew)
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Same here.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 07:24 PM (MVjcR)
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Finally found the super secret glitch characters a dash and an ampersand.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:24 PM (jdGlx)
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Keith, strip out smart quotes, long dashes, and any other character that wasn't in the original cuneiform ascii set.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2019 07:24 PM (fuK7c)
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Question for my far more knowledgeable on firearms friends:
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
I have owned numerous SnW revolvers, mostly in the 357 cal and never had a single problem with any of them even shooting max hand loads.
But the old colts used to have the smoothest action. Alas I have heard the new Colts are not WAS.
Question for my far more knowledgeable on firearms friends:
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
I have owned numerous SnW revolvers, mostly in the 357 cal and never had a single problem with any of them even shooting max hand loads.
But the old colts used to have the smoothest action. Alas I have heard the new Colts are not WAS.
Posted by: Vic at June 02, 2019 07:25 PM (mpXpK)
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Question for my fellow Texans:
Do any of you ever ignore gun free zones here, whether they have the 51% sign in say restaurants, or are some other facility?
(*gasp*) Why, that would be wrong! On the other hand, concealed means concealed and if it ever needed to be unconcealed, well, I guess the sign is the least of your problems.
Do any of you ever ignore gun free zones here, whether they have the 51% sign in say restaurants, or are some other facility?
(*gasp*) Why, that would be wrong! On the other hand, concealed means concealed and if it ever needed to be unconcealed, well, I guess the sign is the least of your problems.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 07:25 PM (qc+VF)
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July 1, new California ammunition law goes into
effect. Background check for ammunition purchase featuring intrusive collection of personal information, and ammunition can only be purchased if a firearm of that caliber is registered under the customer's name in a state database.
It's clear that the ultimate goal is ending legal firearms ownership for regular people. They keep
tightening up, increment by increment.
I hope this law and the waxy yellow buildup of all the previous ridiculous state laws can be reversed.
effect. Background check for ammunition purchase featuring intrusive collection of personal information, and ammunition can only be purchased if a firearm of that caliber is registered under the customer's name in a state database.
It's clear that the ultimate goal is ending legal firearms ownership for regular people. They keep
tightening up, increment by increment.
I hope this law and the waxy yellow buildup of all the previous ridiculous state laws can be reversed.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 02, 2019 07:25 PM (t5m5e)
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I had great service from the folks in Arkansas who service RWS/Diana airguns. Did a great job replacing the seals and mainspring in my 75TO1match gun about 2 years ago. Excellent support, great pricing, and done ahead of schedule. Sadly, it arrived back the day after the RMBS Dad passed away. He was looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 02, 2019 07:25 PM (OF95o)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 02, 2019 07:25 PM (8msR+)
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Ruger replaced the hammer/trigger assembly on my 30 year old Blackhawk for free and very quickly. Now it only fires if I squeeze the trigger instead of just pulling the hammer back and letting it go.
Posted by: Cosda at June 02, 2019 07:26 PM (YA4TI)
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Smith makes a great 1911 btw. Thing never jammed. I used it in a bowling pin fundraiser shoot. They stopped having that event and I sold the smith at a gun show. Fellow was mighty glad to have it. Heartwarming!
Posted by: Tu abuela tambien at June 02, 2019 07:27 PM (efMXe)
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Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
Hi-Point.
Though I notice you didn't specify reliable in what way.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
Hi-Point.
Though I notice you didn't specify reliable in what way.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 07:29 PM (t+qrx)
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Purchased a Hi Point .45 carbine just before the deadline in WA state which will make it a lot harder to purchase. Did some serious research. Have developed a great deal of respect for that company. Lifetime warranty for a well made rifle.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:29 PM (j3ReE)
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This is somewhat tangential, but y'all may or may not be surprised to learn that the NYT *spit* published the names, photos, families, and home locations of Hondurans defending their communities against MS-13.
Because our betters feel it is important to point out the prey for the predators.
Because our betters feel it is important to point out the prey for the predators.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at June 02, 2019 07:29 PM (4HMW8)
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Keltec has excellent customer service. They should, as they sell half-assed crap that needs to be returned. My P32 is a great pocket pistol: flat, thin, light weight. Even shot good, until the hammer wouldn't travel back far enough to fall forward and fire.
Perturbed, I contacted them. Nice people, send it back, they said. Got it back in a week, all better. They even polished the feed ramp, and retouched the sights. Great, right?
Wrong. Friend of mine's P32 also broke. Same great customer service, but it's only great because they have so much practice.
Any manufacturer can make a lemon, but I prefer my guns to be made by a company that treats such problems as the exception, and not the rule. Kinda like the maytag repair commercials, remember?
Perturbed, I contacted them. Nice people, send it back, they said. Got it back in a week, all better. They even polished the feed ramp, and retouched the sights. Great, right?
Wrong. Friend of mine's P32 also broke. Same great customer service, but it's only great because they have so much practice.
Any manufacturer can make a lemon, but I prefer my guns to be made by a company that treats such problems as the exception, and not the rule. Kinda like the maytag repair commercials, remember?
Posted by: eastofsuez at June 02, 2019 07:30 PM (U2zca)
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Question for my fellow Texans:
Do any of you ever ignore gun free zones here, whether they have the 51% sign in say restaurants, or are some other facility?
(*gasp*) Why, that would be wrong! On the other hand, concealed means concealed and if it ever needed to be unconcealed, well, I guess the sign is the least of your problems.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 07:25 PM (qc+VF)
But what are the odds of someone knowing you're carrying it? I've read that people give off certain "signals" or "traits" when they're carrying. It would suck to get confronted with it on me.
Do any of you ever ignore gun free zones here, whether they have the 51% sign in say restaurants, or are some other facility?
(*gasp*) Why, that would be wrong! On the other hand, concealed means concealed and if it ever needed to be unconcealed, well, I guess the sign is the least of your problems.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 07:25 PM (qc+VF)
But what are the odds of someone knowing you're carrying it? I've read that people give off certain "signals" or "traits" when they're carrying. It would suck to get confronted with it on me.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 07:30 PM (d+hd5)
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Out of the box series 70 mk 4 Colt factory 1911 all steel commander in satin nickel threw it's safety before first magazine empty. Harrumph. Called Armand Swenson about ambo replacement, he said don't ship, just come by!
Wow. Had great stories, a shop full of aluminum fail examples (he refused to fly anymore), cigar boxes of pistols to service. Showed one with dished in trigger guard, yeah, detective lost finger, but since otherwise woulda been tween da eyes! Pronounced factory trigger so good he dint need to toich it "the ones with a scratch on this side of the hammer seem better"!
Wow. Had great stories, a shop full of aluminum fail examples (he refused to fly anymore), cigar boxes of pistols to service. Showed one with dished in trigger guard, yeah, detective lost finger, but since otherwise woulda been tween da eyes! Pronounced factory trigger so good he dint need to toich it "the ones with a scratch on this side of the hammer seem better"!
Posted by: but she is gone now at June 02, 2019 07:30 PM (fQiiX)
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I've had a few dealings with customer service for Ruger, Traditions, Lee Precision, and Marlin (before they were bought out). The issues were small but each time the people were knowledgeable, efficient and pleasant.
The few times I read about people having trouble with CS was usually involving muzzleloading gear. But these are often one man shops and injury or a family crisis can cause delays. Even then it's rare.
The few times I read about people having trouble with CS was usually involving muzzleloading gear. But these are often one man shops and injury or a family crisis can cause delays. Even then it's rare.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 07:31 PM (bmdz3)
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (MVjcR)
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Do any of you ever ignore gun free zones here, whether they have the 51% sign in say restaurants, or are some other facility?
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Unless it's a government building where I'd have to go thru a metal detector, I ignore all the time.
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Unless it's a government building where I'd have to go thru a metal detector, I ignore all the time.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (j3ReE)
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Son N**** the Valiant pick up a 12 g. Browning Superposed 1974 non-saltwater for a song, if songs go for a grand. He says as far as he can tell, it had never been shot.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (w7U7L)
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Keith, strip out smart quotes, long dashes, and any other character that wasn't in the original cuneiform ascii set.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2019 07:24 PM (fuK7c)
This is not mine but it is an AoS standard last time I looked so here goes
"Best to run it through the Unicode repair site
http://bit.ly/pixyize
but if your browser won't let you do ampersands, even that won't work."
YMMV
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2019 07:24 PM (fuK7c)
This is not mine but it is an AoS standard last time I looked so here goes
"Best to run it through the Unicode repair site
http://bit.ly/pixyize
but if your browser won't let you do ampersands, even that won't work."
YMMV
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (AZxMX)
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Vic, thanks!
hogmartin, 'reliable' as in "least likely to kill you when you fire it, ever." I.e., something that you can get top performance out of for a long long time, with the least maintenance.
Here, let me rephrase: what's the Honda of handguns? ;-)
hogmartin, 'reliable' as in "least likely to kill you when you fire it, ever." I.e., something that you can get top performance out of for a long long time, with the least maintenance.
Here, let me rephrase: what's the Honda of handguns? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (miE9U)
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Little LCD went shooting with friends yesterday out in the deep woods, north of Seattle about an hour and a half.
He and friends had an AR-15, AR-10, .22 Marlin rifle, couple of .22 pistols, XD 40SC, 30.06(Remington 700 I am guessing), an old Russian pistol .380 of unknown brand (but it was heavier than the XD40SC, Dad!) and an SKS. There were a couple other rifles as well that he didn't shoot.
First time with the SKS, and he said the stock was way too short for him. He is 6'7"+. But he did appreciate the history of it a little bit, which pleasantly surprised me.
He and 4 buddies were deep in the woods, and said there were a lot of shooters. Buy the end of the day, they had met at least a half dozen other shooters and everyone swapped firearms to sample, as well as some good stories.
This is what responsible shooting activity looks like. LLCD allegedly dropped off my guns back home (F*** YOU 594!! - PROVE IT!) and spent an hour with the old man catching up (even talked about the girlfriend of maybe 8 months now - kind, smart, attractive, and for some unfathomable reason, thinks the world of Little LCD - she is a keeper, son, don't screw it up!) and then left.
No, he didn't clean the guns. What a wonderful father/son activity when he comes over the next time, cleaning guns together! It will be a surprise.
He and friends had an AR-15, AR-10, .22 Marlin rifle, couple of .22 pistols, XD 40SC, 30.06(Remington 700 I am guessing), an old Russian pistol .380 of unknown brand (but it was heavier than the XD40SC, Dad!) and an SKS. There were a couple other rifles as well that he didn't shoot.
First time with the SKS, and he said the stock was way too short for him. He is 6'7"+. But he did appreciate the history of it a little bit, which pleasantly surprised me.
He and 4 buddies were deep in the woods, and said there were a lot of shooters. Buy the end of the day, they had met at least a half dozen other shooters and everyone swapped firearms to sample, as well as some good stories.
This is what responsible shooting activity looks like. LLCD allegedly dropped off my guns back home (F*** YOU 594!! - PROVE IT!) and spent an hour with the old man catching up (even talked about the girlfriend of maybe 8 months now - kind, smart, attractive, and for some unfathomable reason, thinks the world of Little LCD - she is a keeper, son, don't screw it up!) and then left.
No, he didn't clean the guns. What a wonderful father/son activity when he comes over the next time, cleaning guns together! It will be a surprise.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 07:33 PM (sy5kK)
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Weasel, Thanks for those links, especially the 150th anniversary of the Creedmore match. Great reading and history.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 07:33 PM (bmdz3)
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I thought Hi-Point's products were effectively disposable... :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:33 PM (miE9U)
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Also re H&K, I've heard they've gotten better about their availability in the US at least.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:34 PM (miE9U)
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Good work on this one, Weasel! So I'm thinking about a 10MM. Have in mind a G20. No reason, just want one.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 07:35 PM (qBNEP)
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I've hag GREAT customer service from LOK grips. They make nice G10 grips. I have a set on my Beretta 92 S that has the heel magazine release and they offer to do a special cut for that. I asked if they had any plans to do similarly for the Hi Powers that have a lanyard stub in about the same place and was told ship in your old grips so we can see where its at and well cut it for you for free.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:35 PM (jdGlx)
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"Ballistic Coefficient is a measure of a projectile's ability to overcome air resistance"
Huh?
The projectile has no ability to overcome anything. The shape of the projectile minimizes air resistance!
I want my membership fees refunded!
Huh?
The projectile has no ability to overcome anything. The shape of the projectile minimizes air resistance!
I want my membership fees refunded!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 07:36 PM (wYseH)
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46 Keith, strip out smart quotes, long dashes, and any other character that wasn't in the original cuneiform ascii set.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2019 07:24 PM (fuK7c)
This is not mine but it is an AoS standard last time I looked so here goes
"Best to run it through the Unicode repair site
http://bit.ly/pixyize
but if your browser won't let you do ampersands, even that won't work."
YMMV
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (AZxMX)
Thanks for the tips. It will reduce a fair a mount of aggravation.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2019 07:24 PM (fuK7c)
This is not mine but it is an AoS standard last time I looked so here goes
"Best to run it through the Unicode repair site
http://bit.ly/pixyize
but if your browser won't let you do ampersands, even that won't work."
YMMV
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (AZxMX)
Thanks for the tips. It will reduce a fair a mount of aggravation.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:36 PM (jdGlx)
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It will reduce a fair a mount of aggravation.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:36 PM (jdGlx)
Believe me, you are in good company!
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:36 PM (jdGlx)
Believe me, you are in good company!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 02, 2019 07:37 PM (AZxMX)
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Question for my far more knowledgeable on firearms friends:
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
Not sure, but it is certainly a revolver.
Question for my far more knowledgeable on firearms friends:
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
Not sure, but it is certainly a revolver.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 07:37 PM (sy5kK)
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I thought Hi-Point's products were effectively disposable... :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:33 PM (miE9U)
The pistol-caliber carbines are actually really good.
The pistols, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually work. There's not a lot to go wrong on a blowback-operated .45. Once you get over the fact that it's a blowback-operated .45.
But I would not call them the "Honda" of guns by any measure.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:33 PM (miE9U)
The pistol-caliber carbines are actually really good.
The pistols, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually work. There's not a lot to go wrong on a blowback-operated .45. Once you get over the fact that it's a blowback-operated .45.
But I would not call them the "Honda" of guns by any measure.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 07:37 PM (t+qrx)
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49 Weasel, Thanks for those links, especially the 150th anniversary of the Creedmore match. Great reading and history.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 07:33 PM (bmdz3)
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I hoped you would like that!
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 07:33 PM (bmdz3)
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I hoped you would like that!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 07:38 PM (MVjcR)
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hogmartin, thanks.
Maybe I should say, Hi-Point is the Lucas Electric of firearms...
Maybe I should say, Hi-Point is the Lucas Electric of firearms...
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:39 PM (miE9U)
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But what are the odds of someone knowing you're carrying it? I've read that people give off certain "signals" or "traits" when they're carrying. It would suck to get confronted with it on me.
I have no data but my hunch is that the odds are small if you're not doing something like touching your waistband all the time or wearing a fanny pack or a "photographer's" vest. I just sort of assume those people are carrying.
I'd have to check but just going on memory (an increasingly bad idea) violating a 51% sign is a misdemeanor and violating a 30.06 sign only becomes a trespassing misdemeanor if you're asked to leave and don't. Carrying into a post office is a federal felony. Don't do that.
I have no data but my hunch is that the odds are small if you're not doing something like touching your waistband all the time or wearing a fanny pack or a "photographer's" vest. I just sort of assume those people are carrying.
I'd have to check but just going on memory (an increasingly bad idea) violating a 51% sign is a misdemeanor and violating a 30.06 sign only becomes a trespassing misdemeanor if you're asked to leave and don't. Carrying into a post office is a federal felony. Don't do that.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 07:39 PM (qc+VF)
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 07:40 PM (MVjcR)
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50 ... "I thought Hi-Point's products were effectively disposable"
I have a Hi-Point 45 auto. It is weird looking compared to a Colt and feels clunky in the hand. But it has never had a FTF or FTE and is pretty darn accurate. It cost under $200 when I bought it some years ago. Is it a gun for the ages? Probably not. But it has been decent.
I have a Hi-Point 45 auto. It is weird looking compared to a Colt and feels clunky in the hand. But it has never had a FTF or FTE and is pretty darn accurate. It cost under $200 when I bought it some years ago. Is it a gun for the ages? Probably not. But it has been decent.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 07:40 PM (bmdz3)
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My first shottie was a Monkey Ward 12 ga. bolt action - kicked like a mothe, ughh, kicked like a mule. After a year or two the neck of the stock developed a crack.
Sent it off, got it back with a new stock - with a metal pin drilled through the neck.
Never sure about the engineering on that. I've only put a couple rounds through it since. That was mmmm 40 years ago, but it still has an honored spot in my safe.
Sent it off, got it back with a new stock - with a metal pin drilled through the neck.
Never sure about the engineering on that. I've only put a couple rounds through it since. That was mmmm 40 years ago, but it still has an honored spot in my safe.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 07:41 PM (+6GvU)
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...Here, let me rephrase: what's the Honda of handguns? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (miE9U)
Honda broke the mold, when they successfully developed the Honda Jet.
I think it'd be a great thing if they were to develop and sell a handgun.
Though I'm not sure how they're gonna squeeze a CVCC chamber and variable valve timing into a Glockette platform?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (miE9U)
Honda broke the mold, when they successfully developed the Honda Jet.
I think it'd be a great thing if they were to develop and sell a handgun.
Though I'm not sure how they're gonna squeeze a CVCC chamber and variable valve timing into a Glockette platform?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 07:41 PM (QzJWU)
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Another day, another inability to post more than a sentence without the "Server 500 error"
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:22 PM (jdGlx)
If you cut and paste anything, it will show the Server 500 error. At least that happens to me. You have to retype it by hand for it to post.
YMMV, of course.
Another day, another inability to post more than a sentence without the "Server 500 error"
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:22 PM (jdGlx)
If you cut and paste anything, it will show the Server 500 error. At least that happens to me. You have to retype it by hand for it to post.
YMMV, of course.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 07:41 PM (sy5kK)
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Gunzzzz!
Range: just back from it. First silhouette match, with the 1866 Yellow Boy Uberti reproduction in 45 Colt. Good fun. Need to drift the sights, windage a bit off, almost have elevation figured out, but 2nd time I've really shot the rifle, so no big deal [Weasel has a pic of this rifle, purdy, I sent in a while ago - I see a Henry cousin is featured today ..... somebody else had a Henry lever today, stood it right next to mine in the rack, and the difference in brass color was striking - mine was much more "yellow"].
Flamethrowers: hell yeah. Besides the site linked above, check out the Forgotten Weapons UToob with Gun Jesus for a great video of him explaining and using a WWII flamethrower.
Gunzzz biz customer service: no other category of consumer goods I am familiar with has service like the gunzzz biz. To include reloading vendors. I now half expect brand new replacements, gratis, for any item that's not perfect - it's happened so much. Not to say I've had much trouble with any of my stuff [with actual firearms, never any problem]. And the support is also superb. Part of it is Weasel's point - most of the industry is peopled by enthusiasts - so business and customer are much more part of a community than is typically the case.
Range: just back from it. First silhouette match, with the 1866 Yellow Boy Uberti reproduction in 45 Colt. Good fun. Need to drift the sights, windage a bit off, almost have elevation figured out, but 2nd time I've really shot the rifle, so no big deal [Weasel has a pic of this rifle, purdy, I sent in a while ago - I see a Henry cousin is featured today ..... somebody else had a Henry lever today, stood it right next to mine in the rack, and the difference in brass color was striking - mine was much more "yellow"].
Flamethrowers: hell yeah. Besides the site linked above, check out the Forgotten Weapons UToob with Gun Jesus for a great video of him explaining and using a WWII flamethrower.
Gunzzz biz customer service: no other category of consumer goods I am familiar with has service like the gunzzz biz. To include reloading vendors. I now half expect brand new replacements, gratis, for any item that's not perfect - it's happened so much. Not to say I've had much trouble with any of my stuff [with actual firearms, never any problem]. And the support is also superb. Part of it is Weasel's point - most of the industry is peopled by enthusiasts - so business and customer are much more part of a community than is typically the case.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 07:41 PM (QDnY+)
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JTB, good to hear.
Also IMHO it's probably overall a good thing to have a line of relatively low-cost, decent-quality pistols out there. Not everyone who needs to protect themselves with a firearm, can afford to spend $500 or more.
Also IMHO it's probably overall a good thing to have a line of relatively low-cost, decent-quality pistols out there. Not everyone who needs to protect themselves with a firearm, can afford to spend $500 or more.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:42 PM (miE9U)
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RE CMP: Shipped them a Garand and the day after they received it, I got a call to get some clarification on what I wanted refinished. They'd already put a new barrel on the rifle.
After I got the rifle back, it looked almost brand new. (I had the gas cylinder redone along with a new op rod installed)
Very pleased with their work.
After I got the rifle back, it looked almost brand new. (I had the gas cylinder redone along with a new op rod installed)
Very pleased with their work.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 02, 2019 07:42 PM (WEBkv)
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Jim, how about a fuel-injected handgun with an option for CVT transmission? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:42 PM (miE9U)
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Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
There are a LOT of reliable semi autos. The makarov springs first to mind. Took the PPK and cut out half of the parts and is the T34 of handguns. Typical Soviet. Glocks and plenty of similar. C775s. HiPowers if the feedramp is later and supports the range of SD ammo.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
There are a LOT of reliable semi autos. The makarov springs first to mind. Took the PPK and cut out half of the parts and is the T34 of handguns. Typical Soviet. Glocks and plenty of similar. C775s. HiPowers if the feedramp is later and supports the range of SD ammo.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:43 PM (jdGlx)
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Meant to say I *include* reloading companies in the category that provides incredible customer service, along with the firearm companies.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 07:43 PM (QDnY+)
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news on the VB shooter. used suppressors. Daily Mail actually gave truth on muffling. people first thought they heard a nail gun. his 45s were legal. no word on whether his silencers had proper papers. (seems to have slipped their mind). they did mention that sales of suppressors is increasing. Must be all those John Wick movies where much of his shooting has suppressors.that and all Hollywood shoot-em ups where the shots are "fifft" and not "bang".
Posted by: tx32 represent-less at June 02, 2019 07:44 PM (1XtI9)
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Jim or others, IS there a Japanese-made handgun or firearms company? And are there any that sell in the US?
I don't think I've ever heard of any Asian firearms manufacturer (outside of the ChiComs themselves). I probably need to get out more.
I don't think I've ever heard of any Asian firearms manufacturer (outside of the ChiComs themselves). I probably need to get out more.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:44 PM (miE9U)
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ESPN Sunday Night Baseball is unwatchable. I hate aroid and that girl and the other fuck who will not shut the fuck up
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2019 07:45 PM (Y+V3r)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:45 PM (miE9U)
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Maybe I should say, Hi-Point is the Lucas Electric of firearms...
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:39 PM (miE9U)
There's a Paul Harrell video that reviews it, check that.
I was half goofing and half serious. It's inexpensive but it's odd-looking, heavy, un-ergonomic. It's also brutally simple and there isn't much to go wrong.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:39 PM (miE9U)
There's a Paul Harrell video that reviews it, check that.
I was half goofing and half serious. It's inexpensive but it's odd-looking, heavy, un-ergonomic. It's also brutally simple and there isn't much to go wrong.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 07:45 PM (t+qrx)
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[i[My first shottie was a Monkey Ward 12 ga. bolt action - kicked like a mothe, ughh, kicked like a mule. After a year or two the neck of the stock developed a crack.
Sent it off, got it back with a new stock - with a metal pin drilled through the neck.
Never sure about the engineering on that. I've only put a couple rounds through it since. That was mmmm 40 years ago, but it still has an honored spot in my safe.
If by "neck" you mean the wrist, then be assured that a dowel or metal rod inserted long-wise through the middle of the wrist is a standard method of repairing a serious break in that area. Shouldn't be visible with the gun assembled, though.
Sent it off, got it back with a new stock - with a metal pin drilled through the neck.
Never sure about the engineering on that. I've only put a couple rounds through it since. That was mmmm 40 years ago, but it still has an honored spot in my safe.
If by "neck" you mean the wrist, then be assured that a dowel or metal rod inserted long-wise through the middle of the wrist is a standard method of repairing a serious break in that area. Shouldn't be visible with the gun assembled, though.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 02, 2019 07:45 PM (bZ7mE)
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Thanks Bob.
Yeah I'm already aware of the post office issue. I read their notice as that you can't even bring it on the property, much less in the building. So that one I wouldn't mess with.
The 51% and others where it's possible, I'm thinking about it.
Yeah I'm already aware of the post office issue. I read their notice as that you can't even bring it on the property, much less in the building. So that one I wouldn't mess with.
The 51% and others where it's possible, I'm thinking about it.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 07:46 PM (d+hd5)
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54 "Ballistic Coefficient is a measure of a projectile's ability to overcome air resistance"
Huh?
The projectile has no ability to overcome anything. The shape of the projectile minimizes air resistance!
I want my membership fees refunded!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 07:36 PM (wYseH)
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Sorry. No refunds. We spent all the money, but
perhaps that was a little bit inelegant.
How about:
"The ability of the bullet to maintain velocity, in comparison to a standard projectile"
Huh?
The projectile has no ability to overcome anything. The shape of the projectile minimizes air resistance!
I want my membership fees refunded!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 07:36 PM (wYseH)
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Sorry. No refunds. We spent all the money, but
perhaps that was a little bit inelegant.
How about:
"The ability of the bullet to maintain velocity, in comparison to a standard projectile"
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 07:46 PM (MVjcR)
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Hey Weasel, I just sent you a silly question...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 07:47 PM (0ReGO)
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Jim or others, IS there a Japanese-made handgun or firearms company? And are there any that sell in the US?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:44 PM (miE9U)
Howa is the only one that comes to mind.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:44 PM (miE9U)
Howa is the only one that comes to mind.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 07:47 PM (t+qrx)
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What part of the country are you from, by the way?"
Hmmm. Tough call there...
FWIW, the Taurus keeps on going. I'm guessing somewhere around 250 plus rounds, no sweat...
Hmmm. Tough call there...
FWIW, the Taurus keeps on going. I'm guessing somewhere around 250 plus rounds, no sweat...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2019 07:47 PM (6qErC)
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I don't think I've ever heard of any Asian firearms manufacturer (outside of the ChiComs themselves). I probably need to get out more.
Miroku, or however you spell it. They are the actual manufacturer for the guns sold by Winchester these days, I hear...
Miroku, or however you spell it. They are the actual manufacturer for the guns sold by Winchester these days, I hear...
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 02, 2019 07:47 PM (bZ7mE)
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Son N**** the Valiant pick up a 12 g. Browning Superposed 1974 non-saltwater for a song, if songs go for a grand. He says as far as he can tell, it had never been shot.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (w7U7L)
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ours is a 12/20 combo, 1970 from the serial number, in the original Browning case, w/documents.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (w7U7L)
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ours is a 12/20 combo, 1970 from the serial number, in the original Browning case, w/documents.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 07:48 PM (znxDN)
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LCD.
Nice report about Junior. I'm looking forward to watching my grandkids go through the same thing as they get older. My granddaughter is a kick-ass shooter.
Nice report about Junior. I'm looking forward to watching my grandkids go through the same thing as they get older. My granddaughter is a kick-ass shooter.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:48 PM (j3ReE)
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Don't go to Fox yet if you're not interested in getting pissed.
Posted by: dartist at June 02, 2019 07:49 PM (K22Va)
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for reloading i can testify to Dillon as having awesome customer service.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 07:50 PM (znxDN)
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I THINK WHAT HE"S TRYING TO SAY IS WHICH HANDGUN ALWAYS STARTS IN THE MORNING AND NEVER BREAKS DOWN.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER(ERGERERGER) at June 02, 2019 07:50 PM (opA8E)
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Had a minor problem with the rear sight on my new Ruger Ranch Rifle (.223), Sturm-Ruger's customer service was superb. Replaced instantly at no charge.
Posted by: Hanoi Paris Hilton at June 02, 2019 07:51 PM (8QIfI)
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Ballistic Coefficient is a measure of a projectile's ability to overcome air resistance, and becomes more important as we shoot at longer distances. Introduction to the G1 and G7 Ballistic Drag Models WARNING: MATH! Expect to see this material again.
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Help with homework!!!
Do you carry the one or multiply by the numerator?
(There's a reason I was a political science major)
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Help with homework!!!
Do you carry the one or multiply by the numerator?
(There's a reason I was a political science major)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:51 PM (j3ReE)
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...Jim or others, IS there a Japanese-made handgun or firearms company? And are there any that sell in the US?
I don't think I've ever heard of any Asian firearms manufacturer (outside of the ChiComs themselves). I probably need to get out more.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:44 PM (miE9U)
Miroku of Japan (made a LOT of the Browning branded long arms over the years), produces a top-notch copy of the Colt Detective Special.
Armscor (Rock Island Armory) of the Phillipines, also puts out a line of very worthy 1911 platforms, and to the custom builder, a Rock Island frame is tough to beat.
Rock Island is also now turning out a very nice, bargain priced Detective Special clone-ish kind of wheelgun. I've not got to check one out myself, though.
If Japan wanted to, it could produce a revolver to give Korth a run for their money, and a 1911 to make Cabot cry, but at half the price.
Japan has a very mature, very highly skilled gun making industry.
Pity is that they can't hardly sell to their own home market.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
I don't think I've ever heard of any Asian firearms manufacturer (outside of the ChiComs themselves). I probably need to get out more.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:44 PM (miE9U)
Miroku of Japan (made a LOT of the Browning branded long arms over the years), produces a top-notch copy of the Colt Detective Special.
Armscor (Rock Island Armory) of the Phillipines, also puts out a line of very worthy 1911 platforms, and to the custom builder, a Rock Island frame is tough to beat.
Rock Island is also now turning out a very nice, bargain priced Detective Special clone-ish kind of wheelgun. I've not got to check one out myself, though.
If Japan wanted to, it could produce a revolver to give Korth a run for their money, and a 1911 to make Cabot cry, but at half the price.
Japan has a very mature, very highly skilled gun making industry.
Pity is that they can't hardly sell to their own home market.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 07:51 PM (QzJWU)
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76 Keith, thanks.
I admit if I had to get myself a starter handgun, I'd probably try to buy an S&W.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:45 PM (miE9U)
I just picked up a police trade in Glock 17, EC condition, really. About $350 at AIM Surplus. 9mm is harder to find but they always have police trade in Glocks, Sigs, sometimes SnW in .40 or .45 in good condition at great prices. I've had really good luck with US and foreign police trade ins.
Typically far more holster time than range time.
I admit if I had to get myself a starter handgun, I'd probably try to buy an S&W.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:45 PM (miE9U)
I just picked up a police trade in Glock 17, EC condition, really. About $350 at AIM Surplus. 9mm is harder to find but they always have police trade in Glocks, Sigs, sometimes SnW in .40 or .45 in good condition at great prices. I've had really good luck with US and foreign police trade ins.
Typically far more holster time than range time.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:51 PM (jdGlx)
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the ROKs make plenty of firearms, but not sure if they export any to our civilian market.
they ought to.
i also want them to send back all the Garands and Carbines they have in warehouses.
they ought to.
i also want them to send back all the Garands and Carbines they have in warehouses.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 07:52 PM (znxDN)
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If you cut and paste anything, it will show the Server 500 error. At least that happens to me. You have to retype it by hand for it to post.
YMMV, of course.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
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Paste your copied stuff here:
https://www.charset.org/html-special-characters
Click the 'convert' button, then copy and paste converted stuff (lower window) here. Only takes a second, works great. Try it.
YMMV, of course.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
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Paste your copied stuff here:
https://www.charset.org/html-special-characters
Click the 'convert' button, then copy and paste converted stuff (lower window) here. Only takes a second, works great. Try it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 07:52 PM (YvUf/)
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Thanks, Grey Fox. Too lazy to look up the definition. The "neck" I described is where my palm and thumb wrap around, i.e., the narrow part.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 07:52 PM (+6GvU)
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I still haven't gotten my tax stamp for my Maxim-9 but I broke down and shot it yesterday. Totally cool. I brought a few boxes of 158gr 9mm and it was so quiet it was amazing. Obviously not movie silenced pistol quiet but not even unpleasant much less damaging.
I think it is going to work well as a home defense weapon.
I think it is going to work well as a home defense weapon.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 07:52 PM (yQpMk)
98
Hey Weasel, I just sent you a silly question...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 07:47 PM (0ReGO)
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They're the best kind! Received and replied.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 07:47 PM (0ReGO)
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They're the best kind! Received and replied.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 07:53 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2019 07:53 PM (6qErC)
100
Ben, Jim and Keith, thanks :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:54 PM (miE9U)
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I've been shooting my Israeli Arms Baby Eagle for years. It has never let me down. An excellent piece.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:54 PM (j3ReE)
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So, I'm watching Streets of Fire, which is a shitty movie by the way (the editing and writing are SO bad) and the main character's arsenal is a chromed pump action, a lever action 30-30 and a revolver.
Which would be fine if the movie was set in 1905 but in this pseudo 50's by way of the 80's there are SO many better options.
Ah well, Rick Moranis is fun.
Which would be fine if the movie was set in 1905 but in this pseudo 50's by way of the 80's there are SO many better options.
Ah well, Rick Moranis is fun.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 07:55 PM (xJa6I)
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I am vacationing in Virginia Beach. There is a two-man "band" right below my balcony which is both very loud and very awful, if "awful" can accommodate a superlative. Where are our disgruntled government workers when you need them?
Posted by: Caliban at June 02, 2019 07:55 PM (opA8E)
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Do you carry the one or multiply by the numerator? "
Depends when the train reaches Chicago. Or not.
Depends when the train reaches Chicago. Or not.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2019 07:55 PM (6qErC)
105
Rhomboid, I also include reloading companies in the great service list. I broke some pins on my RCBS press and they sent me a bag full, gratis.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 07:56 PM (+6GvU)
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Jim covered the Asian firearms front very well.
Dunno if Charter Arms of Singapore imports anything here, and whether they make anything for the civilian market, but they were a thing, on the military side, at one point.
redc - what are the 2 local funstores with good mechanics, if you can mention them? Just curious. A bit of a drive for me, but always good to have the intel just in case.
Dunno if Charter Arms of Singapore imports anything here, and whether they make anything for the civilian market, but they were a thing, on the military side, at one point.
redc - what are the 2 local funstores with good mechanics, if you can mention them? Just curious. A bit of a drive for me, but always good to have the intel just in case.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
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There are a LOT of reliable semi autos. The makarov
springs first to mind. Took the PPK and cut out half of the parts and is
the T34 of handguns. Typical Soviet.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:43 PM (jdGlx)
East German Makarov, absolutely yes. The Russian and Romanians do not eat the conical ammo well, and may hang up if you don't use the round nose ammo.
springs first to mind. Took the PPK and cut out half of the parts and is
the T34 of handguns. Typical Soviet.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 07:43 PM (jdGlx)
East German Makarov, absolutely yes. The Russian and Romanians do not eat the conical ammo well, and may hang up if you don't use the round nose ammo.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 07:57 PM (hSQmw)
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I've read that people give off certain "signals" or "traits" when they're carrying. It would suck to get confronted with it on me.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 07:30 PM (d+hd5)
You must mean the calm demeanor and relaxed confidence of a person carrying the tools needed to deal with deadly threats, should the arise.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 07:30 PM (d+hd5)
You must mean the calm demeanor and relaxed confidence of a person carrying the tools needed to deal with deadly threats, should the arise.
Posted by: iron308 at June 02, 2019 07:57 PM (Vygy8)
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Mark, Streets Of Fire was designed as a music video-influenced 1980s-era B-movie. I once read Walter Hill had the whole thing shot under a black tarp, so that no sunlight (or anything looking like it) would ever show up in any images in that film.
And at least the soundtrack is epic. :-)
And at least the soundtrack is epic. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:57 PM (miE9U)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2019 07:57 PM (6qErC)
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Grump, you shot it sans ear protection??
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 07:58 PM (QDnY+)
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Wow! I put a decent scope, Nikon Prostaff Rimfire II on a Marlin model 60. This is my first real test using a rifle scope. Fifty yards with just elbows braced. At first they were low but I was able to adjust the scope correctly. (This is not a given.) Once dialed in I was able to keep 30 shots in a little over and inch.
This isn't bragging; it's amazement. After all, I was the shooter.
I learned a few things. First, I have to learn to relax when shooting. My arms and shoulders were sore for 2 days afterward. It's a 22lr so recoil was not a factor. Second, I should use a rest, which I have but forgot to bring. Third, this type of shooting is a LOT of fun as long as I'm sitting. The prone and kneeling positions ain't gonna happen. Fourth, the trigger on the model 60 is terrible. I just never noticed it before when plinking.
One more session at 50 yards then going to try at 100 yards.
BTW, the ammo was CCI Bl*zer 40 grain lead bullets, the inexpensive stuff.
This isn't bragging; it's amazement. After all, I was the shooter.
I learned a few things. First, I have to learn to relax when shooting. My arms and shoulders were sore for 2 days afterward. It's a 22lr so recoil was not a factor. Second, I should use a rest, which I have but forgot to bring. Third, this type of shooting is a LOT of fun as long as I'm sitting. The prone and kneeling positions ain't gonna happen. Fourth, the trigger on the model 60 is terrible. I just never noticed it before when plinking.
One more session at 50 yards then going to try at 100 yards.
BTW, the ammo was CCI Bl*zer 40 grain lead bullets, the inexpensive stuff.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 07:58 PM (bmdz3)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 07:58 PM (yQpMk)
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It was even hearing safe with 124gr.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 07:59 PM (yQpMk)
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Is touching your waistband when in a sketchy area a deterrent to would-be criminals or just an advertisement for who should be dispatched first?
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at June 02, 2019 07:59 PM (4HMW8)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (6qErC)
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As you all know, that deranged and idiotic "actor" robert deniro (who sucks as an actor, btw) made a "PSA" ranting against President Trump.
Well, the great Jon Voight has a few words about President Trump, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVB5iS3-D1w
As you all know, that deranged and idiotic "actor" robert deniro (who sucks as an actor, btw) made a "PSA" ranting against President Trump.
Well, the great Jon Voight has a few words about President Trump, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVB5iS3-D1w
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (2nPdk)
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East German Makarov, absolutely yes. The Russian and Romanians do not eat the conical ammo well, and may hang up if you don't use the round nose ammo.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 07:57 PM (hSQmw)
I have two Bulgarians that run the cheap bear hollow point 100 percent as well. In that caliber ball is probably best anyway.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 07:57 PM (hSQmw)
I have two Bulgarians that run the cheap bear hollow point 100 percent as well. In that caliber ball is probably best anyway.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (jdGlx)
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And the Gun Jesus flamethrower video I mentioned above really is quite informative, feel like I actually understand the device now, which I never did.
Tragically I have no way to apply this new knowledge, in a practical way.
Tragically I have no way to apply this new knowledge, in a practical way.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (QDnY+)
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So, longish post or two to follow. Feel free to skip.
But as part of my 'Fuck you WA state' purchases, I bought 4 handguns. Most of them were of the 'well, if I'm ever going to buy them, now is the time' sort of things. No 'must have's but some 'want to have's.
I bought a Glock 42 in 380 ACP,
a Ruger SR 1911 in stainless steel,
a Ruger MK IV .22lr with the 1911 style grip,
and a CZ P-07 in 9mm.
I've taken them all out and put a couple of hundred rounds through them, they all work, they're all fine (the Glock 42 has been particularly good and easy to shoot).
But it got me thinking: if you had to pick 4 pistols to own...those 4 aren't a bad set.
Thoughts follow.
But as part of my 'Fuck you WA state' purchases, I bought 4 handguns. Most of them were of the 'well, if I'm ever going to buy them, now is the time' sort of things. No 'must have's but some 'want to have's.
I bought a Glock 42 in 380 ACP,
a Ruger SR 1911 in stainless steel,
a Ruger MK IV .22lr with the 1911 style grip,
and a CZ P-07 in 9mm.
I've taken them all out and put a couple of hundred rounds through them, they all work, they're all fine (the Glock 42 has been particularly good and easy to shoot).
But it got me thinking: if you had to pick 4 pistols to own...those 4 aren't a bad set.
Thoughts follow.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (xJa6I)
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>>>The projectile has no ability to overcome anything. The shape of the projectile minimizes air resistance!
I want my membership fees refunded!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 07:36 PM (wYseH)
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Give a guy some tools and a cookbook; you don't know what'll turn up.
I want my membership fees refunded!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 07:36 PM (wYseH)
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Give a guy some tools and a cookbook; you don't know what'll turn up.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (w+EKT)
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The Virginia Beach shooter used two .45 pistols. He had a 5-8 minute shoot out with the Police. I'm assuming they were not 1911s.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (2DOZq)
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116 Ah well, Rick Moranis is fun."
Seriously? Diane Lane...*el sigh*
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (6qErC)
She's pretty, don't get me wrong, but she's not in the movie enough to sell it.
Seriously? Diane Lane...*el sigh*
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (6qErC)
She's pretty, don't get me wrong, but she's not in the movie enough to sell it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:01 PM (xJa6I)
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I believe Troma was the king of B-movie cheese in the 1980s, particularly with regard to horror.
Surprised they're not brought up more on the movie threads. :-)
Surprised they're not brought up more on the movie threads. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:01 PM (miE9U)
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:02 PM (MVjcR)
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Yikes, but good for you, Grump. And woe for many of us, where suppressors are verboten [borrowing that adjective conveys precisely the right flavor and mindset of what we're up against].
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 08:02 PM (QDnY+)
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124 I believe Troma was the king of B-movie cheese in the 1980s, particularly with regard to horror.
Surprised they're not brought up more on the movie threads. :-)
qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:01 PM (miE9U)
Toxic Avenger for the win!
Surprised they're not brought up more on the movie threads. :-)
qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:01 PM (miE9U)
Toxic Avenger for the win!
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 08:02 PM (jdGlx)
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109 Mark, Streets Of Fire was designed as a music video-influenced 1980s-era B-movie. I once read Walter Hill had the whole thing shot under a black tarp, so that no sunlight (or anything looking like it) would ever show up in any images in that film.
And at least the soundtrack is epic. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:57 PM (miE9U)
Yeah, some good music by Jim Steinman in it. But the editing and writing is TERRIBLE. And I'm not fond of the performances so far either.
And at least the soundtrack is epic. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:57 PM (miE9U)
Yeah, some good music by Jim Steinman in it. But the editing and writing is TERRIBLE. And I'm not fond of the performances so far either.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:02 PM (xJa6I)
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Keith, I still wanna see that one. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:02 PM (miE9U)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2019 08:02 PM (6qErC)
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The Virginia Beach shooter used two .45 pistols. He had a 5-8 minute shoot out with the Police. I'm assuming they were not 1911s.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (2DOZq)
So between that and all the peeps he shot he was reloading repeatedly, yes??
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (2DOZq)
So between that and all the peeps he shot he was reloading repeatedly, yes??
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (d+hd5)
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Mark, NOW you tell me after I got the blu-ray... ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (miE9U)
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I also got to function check my SLR and M14. No failures.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (yQpMk)
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Bookmark
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (2nPdk)
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Anon, yup. I believe Toxie is the more-or-less official mascot of Troma.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (miE9U)
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Daewoo is the main Korean small arms compamy. I have seen some of their pistols. They didn't make a successful sedan though.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (hSQmw)
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 08:04 PM (t+qrx)
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129 Keith, I still wanna see that one. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:02 PM (miE9U)
Classic. Now, I'd have to watch it again to see how well it has aged.
Not by Troma, but Return of the Living Dead is a true classic that has stood the test of time.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:02 PM (miE9U)
Classic. Now, I'd have to watch it again to see how well it has aged.
Not by Troma, but Return of the Living Dead is a true classic that has stood the test of time.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 08:04 PM (jdGlx)
Posted by: F-4 Phantom 2 at June 02, 2019 08:04 PM (Izzlo)
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Regarding Kel-tec customer service, I can vouch for the speed and quality of the repairs. And yes, it's due to all the practice they get. They've handled both my RFBs (18 and 24 inch barrels) and my RDB, which all had gas regulator problems.
The nice secretary lady who handled my emails was also kind enough to send a free replacement screw when I lost a screw from the 18" RFB. When I received it and let her know that it was the wrong type, she was kind enough to send another one free. When I told her that one wasn't the right type either, she sent a third type. I suspect they go through a lot of these parts.
The nice secretary lady who handled my emails was also kind enough to send a free replacement screw when I lost a screw from the 18" RFB. When I received it and let her know that it was the wrong type, she was kind enough to send another one free. When I told her that one wasn't the right type either, she sent a third type. I suspect they go through a lot of these parts.
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at June 02, 2019 08:04 PM (f0Pv6)
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Hi Mr Weasel
Queens Birthday here. Holiday so driving to range in 5 mikes. As a lot of my bundooks are older than some countries I am the customer service centre
Queens Birthday here. Holiday so driving to range in 5 mikes. As a lot of my bundooks are older than some countries I am the customer service centre
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 02, 2019 08:05 PM (L3kXu)
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best handgun...I like the Smith model 29 and of course 1911, but the gun that can take the most abuse has to be the Glock. See the spiral bound Glock Handbook.
My story: customer brought in a Glock 9, found on a lakebed after a long drought. the finish was marred on the slide, so...long time. He never disassembled just soak, fiddle around, repeat. Got it working, but it jammed a bit. When I worked on it, I found:
Busted recoil spring
However, as I went, every other spring was ready to fail or did break during takedown except the mag catch spring.
Oh yeah, it still had mud in it.
Labor and parts: under 50 bucks.
Very easy to tune up, too.
My story: customer brought in a Glock 9, found on a lakebed after a long drought. the finish was marred on the slide, so...long time. He never disassembled just soak, fiddle around, repeat. Got it working, but it jammed a bit. When I worked on it, I found:
Busted recoil spring
However, as I went, every other spring was ready to fail or did break during takedown except the mag catch spring.
Oh yeah, it still had mud in it.
Labor and parts: under 50 bucks.
Very easy to tune up, too.
Posted by: Gooshy at June 02, 2019 08:05 PM (1XbQc)
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Keith, kewl.
Not sure if it's Troma, but there was an actual movie (remake?) of Re-Animator made in the 1980s that is also considered a (bloody, gory) all-time classic.
Not sure if it's Troma, but there was an actual movie (remake?) of Re-Animator made in the 1980s that is also considered a (bloody, gory) all-time classic.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:05 PM (miE9U)
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Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (d+hd5)
I figure he had to have a number of mags if they were 1911s.
I figure he had to have a number of mags if they were 1911s.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:05 PM (2DOZq)
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Is touching your waistband when in a sketchy area a deterrent to would-be criminals or just an advertisement for who should be dispatched first?
Again, just IMO with no supporting evidence but if -- God forbid -- I ever have to point a gun at another human, I want it to be the biggest surprise he's ever had.
Again, just IMO with no supporting evidence but if -- God forbid -- I ever have to point a gun at another human, I want it to be the biggest surprise he's ever had.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 08:06 PM (qc+VF)
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Combining redc1c4's Garand comment and Weasel's weekly "have you been to the range this week and why not you miserable excuse for a patriot and probably voted democrat at least once in your life screed,
The answer is, Yes!
Went yesterday afternoon intending to shoot some long range. Got there and there were dozens of vehicles parked on the range. And 150 clean cut muscled young men with short haircuts carrying various weapon systems I lusted for. Turns out they had a long range match at our 1140 yard range.
I didn't even get out of the car.
So I went back this morning to shoot my Savage Axis and my, drum roll, Garand. It turns out that the Savage likes my reloads, but hates M2 Ball ammo. What the heck? It's great Greek ammo from the 1960's!
The answer is, Yes!
Went yesterday afternoon intending to shoot some long range. Got there and there were dozens of vehicles parked on the range. And 150 clean cut muscled young men with short haircuts carrying various weapon systems I lusted for. Turns out they had a long range match at our 1140 yard range.
I didn't even get out of the car.
So I went back this morning to shoot my Savage Axis and my, drum roll, Garand. It turns out that the Savage likes my reloads, but hates M2 Ball ammo. What the heck? It's great Greek ammo from the 1960's!
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:06 PM (+6GvU)
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Kindltot, woo! Thanks. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:06 PM (miE9U)
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So, back on my 'Fuck you WA state' purchases:
First, you have a .22 semi-auto. These are just fun to shoot and the MK IV is so nice and easy to break down for cleaning and just as easy to reassemble. The grip angle on this 22-45 mimics the 1911, so you don't have the radical rakish grip of a Glock. It's sufficiently accurate, so far with Mini Mags it's been reliable too. So fun to shoot but the shooting fundamentals and gun handling isn't too different from a 'real' gun.
Which leads me to the 1911. The Ruger is ok, frankly the Rock Island Tac 2 has a better trigger and it cost less, but it's in stainless steel, which is good in hot weather where you might sweat on it, it's all steel in case you have to carry it exposed in the heat and it's in a big boy caliber: 45 ACP. And the gun shoots. My first 7 rounds shot the X out of the center of the 10 ring on an IPSC target, just at 7 yards so no bragging points but it works.
On to the next two next.
First, you have a .22 semi-auto. These are just fun to shoot and the MK IV is so nice and easy to break down for cleaning and just as easy to reassemble. The grip angle on this 22-45 mimics the 1911, so you don't have the radical rakish grip of a Glock. It's sufficiently accurate, so far with Mini Mags it's been reliable too. So fun to shoot but the shooting fundamentals and gun handling isn't too different from a 'real' gun.
Which leads me to the 1911. The Ruger is ok, frankly the Rock Island Tac 2 has a better trigger and it cost less, but it's in stainless steel, which is good in hot weather where you might sweat on it, it's all steel in case you have to carry it exposed in the heat and it's in a big boy caliber: 45 ACP. And the gun shoots. My first 7 rounds shot the X out of the center of the 10 ring on an IPSC target, just at 7 yards so no bragging points but it works.
On to the next two next.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:06 PM (xJa6I)
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Thanks for another fun Gub Thread, Weasel!
My Ruger LC9 needed some service a while back, and I can't say enough good things about that company's customer service. 1st rate.
As regards GFZ's and houses of worship (well, *all* GFZ's): I've maintained for a *long* time that any place that posts a GFZ poster has *explicitly* agreed to *guarantee" the safty of me and mine, and are *explicitly* liable if I or my loved ones are injured or killed.
Of course, I do *not* leave that to chance when I'm at shul.
My Ruger LC9 needed some service a while back, and I can't say enough good things about that company's customer service. 1st rate.
As regards GFZ's and houses of worship (well, *all* GFZ's): I've maintained for a *long* time that any place that posts a GFZ poster has *explicitly* agreed to *guarantee" the safty of me and mine, and are *explicitly* liable if I or my loved ones are injured or killed.
Of course, I do *not* leave that to chance when I'm at shul.
Posted by: ibguy at June 02, 2019 08:07 PM (EHVbt)
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Hi Mr Weasel
Queens Birthday here. Holiday so driving to range in 5 mikes. As a lot of my bundooks are older than some countries I am the customer service centre
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 02, 2019 08:05 PM (L3kXu)
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Thanks for checking in NZFrank! Have a good time at the range with the bundooks! And Happy Birthday to the Queen, of course.
Queens Birthday here. Holiday so driving to range in 5 mikes. As a lot of my bundooks are older than some countries I am the customer service centre
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 02, 2019 08:05 PM (L3kXu)
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Thanks for checking in NZFrank! Have a good time at the range with the bundooks! And Happy Birthday to the Queen, of course.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:08 PM (MVjcR)
152
Daewoo is the main Korean small arms compamy. I have seen some of their pistols. They didn't make a successful sedan though.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (hSQmw)
PMC is quality ammo for the price.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (hSQmw)
PMC is quality ammo for the price.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:08 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 02, 2019 08:08 PM (2nPdk)
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Not sure if it's Troma, but there was an actual movie (remake?) of Re-Animator made in the 1980s that is also considered a (bloody, gory) all-time classic.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:05 PM (miE9U)
Reanimator is great. Frankenhooker is great and hi grade camp.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:05 PM (miE9U)
Reanimator is great. Frankenhooker is great and hi grade camp.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 08:09 PM (jdGlx)
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I have two Bulgarians that run the cheap bear hollow point 100 percent as well. In that caliber ball is probably best anyway.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (jdGlx)
And you have shown conclusively that the plural of anecdote is not "data"
(this is an apology)
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (jdGlx)
And you have shown conclusively that the plural of anecdote is not "data"
(this is an apology)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:09 PM (hSQmw)
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Frankenhooker? LOL, gotta look that one up. Thanks again Keith.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:10 PM (miE9U)
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This is somewhat tangential, but y'all may or may not be surprised to learn that the NYT *spit* published the names, photos, families, and home locations of Hondurans defending their communities against MS-13.
Because our betters feel it is important to point out the prey for the predators.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley
I normally don't feel the need to use expletives to express myself but that recieved a YFING KIDDING ME!
Two can play that game. Call it doxing if you want but this is 21rst century guerrilla warfare. I'm wondering how comfortable some of these "journalists " would feel if we start retaliating in that manner.
Because our betters feel it is important to point out the prey for the predators.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley
I normally don't feel the need to use expletives to express myself but that recieved a YFING KIDDING ME!
Two can play that game. Call it doxing if you want but this is 21rst century guerrilla warfare. I'm wondering how comfortable some of these "journalists " would feel if we start retaliating in that manner.
Posted by: Sock Monkey kicking back and enjoying a little porch music at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (L4L/X)
158
Keith that sounded snarky, and it was, but aimed at myself.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (hSQmw)
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PMC is quality ammo for the price.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:08 PM (2DOZq)
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Run it exclusively in my 1911's. Dirty, but consistent. Only problem I had was a round didn't eject properly, but, that was due to a dirty extractor. Stripped the pistol, cleaned thoroughly, and away we go.
Bad on my part, as I'm probably close to 10K rounds through this particular 1911.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:08 PM (2DOZq)
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Run it exclusively in my 1911's. Dirty, but consistent. Only problem I had was a round didn't eject properly, but, that was due to a dirty extractor. Stripped the pistol, cleaned thoroughly, and away we go.
Bad on my part, as I'm probably close to 10K rounds through this particular 1911.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (2nPdk)
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Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:06 PM (+6GvU)
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Nice! Were these some of the loads you tuned for seating depth?
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Nice! Were these some of the loads you tuned for seating depth?
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (MVjcR)
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To expand: I haven't gone 10K rounds without cleaning, rather, I hadn't pulled everything out, extractor, firing pin, etc., and cleaned.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 02, 2019 08:13 PM (WEBkv)
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Frankenhooker looks fantastic! I gotta get it on disc...
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:13 PM (miE9U)
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I normally don't feel the need to use expletives to express myself but that recieved a YFING KIDDING ME!
Two can play that game. Call it doxing if you want but this is 21rst century guerrilla warfare. I'm wondering how comfortable some of these "journalists " would feel if we start retaliating in that manner.
Posted by: Sock Monkey kicking back and enjoying a little porch music at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (L4L/X)
Why don't we, and/or why aren't we?
Is it the whole "that's not who we are" bullshit? Because I'm ok with getting down and dirty with these scum.
Two can play that game. Call it doxing if you want but this is 21rst century guerrilla warfare. I'm wondering how comfortable some of these "journalists " would feel if we start retaliating in that manner.
Posted by: Sock Monkey kicking back and enjoying a little porch music at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (L4L/X)
Why don't we, and/or why aren't we?
Is it the whole "that's not who we are" bullshit? Because I'm ok with getting down and dirty with these scum.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:13 PM (d+hd5)
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>>> 152 Daewoo is the main Korean small arms compamy. I have seen some of their pistols. They didn't make a successful sedan though.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (hSQmw)
PMC is quality ammo for the price.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:08 PM (2DOZq)
Jim and others have recommended it for the brass.
... so how do you guys tell; mostly through experience?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (hSQmw)
PMC is quality ammo for the price.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:08 PM (2DOZq)
Jim and others have recommended it for the brass.
... so how do you guys tell; mostly through experience?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 08:14 PM (0ReGO)
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86
LCD.
Nice report about Junior. I'm looking forward to watching my
grandkids go through the same thing as they get older. My granddaughter
is a kick-ass shooter.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:48 PM (j3ReE)
So a parental moment of pride I have to share. When Little LCD called me a few days ago and said he was coming over to allegedly borrow some unnamed things, he continued the conversation with, "uh, Dad, where is the best place to buy ammo? And I'm not supposed to buy the steel cased stuff, right?"
I have enough ammo for at least a few waves of zombies, but I'm not SG Ammo. The cost of ammo is why I don't have more calibers.
So something is getting through. I call that a good day.
LCD.
Nice report about Junior. I'm looking forward to watching my
grandkids go through the same thing as they get older. My granddaughter
is a kick-ass shooter.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:48 PM (j3ReE)
So a parental moment of pride I have to share. When Little LCD called me a few days ago and said he was coming over to allegedly borrow some unnamed things, he continued the conversation with, "uh, Dad, where is the best place to buy ammo? And I'm not supposed to buy the steel cased stuff, right?"
I have enough ammo for at least a few waves of zombies, but I'm not SG Ammo. The cost of ammo is why I don't have more calibers.
So something is getting through. I call that a good day.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 08:14 PM (sy5kK)
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10 ... "Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?"
No idea about semi-autos but I suspect Ruger single-actions might be the most reliable. When Bill Ruger introduced the Single-Six or Blackhawk he set up a machine to continuously cock and dry fire a model on display. The story goes that after two days the machine broke down. The revolver was just fine. Mechanical problems with Ruger single actions are rare enough to be noteworthy. Usually complaints are about inconsistent chamber sizes.
No idea about semi-autos but I suspect Ruger single-actions might be the most reliable. When Bill Ruger introduced the Single-Six or Blackhawk he set up a machine to continuously cock and dry fire a model on display. The story goes that after two days the machine broke down. The revolver was just fine. Mechanical problems with Ruger single actions are rare enough to be noteworthy. Usually complaints are about inconsistent chamber sizes.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 08:14 PM (bmdz3)
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So we have a .22 LR auto and a .45 ACP both with the same grip angle and similar sights to boot. So you have some transferrable skills. Both are single action, but how about those DA/SA fans and fanatics?
Well, I gotta tell ya, if I HAD to carry a DA/SA...it would be a CZ. The CZ 75 and the Tanfoglio Witness are amazing shooters but the all-steel construction FOR SOME FOLKS is a problem (I've carried '92's for a decade with no serious difficulty). Enter the polymer P07.
This holds 15 rounds of 9mm and has that great 'inner rails' CZ accuracy..which is no joke. This shoots as well as the single actions. Mine is decocker-only but it can be modified to be a safety if that floats your boat. It's a damn fine double stack pistol. But you do still have a slight problem of a different trigger pull in single action vs the first shot in double action.
So, we add a striker fired pistol from THE striker fired pistol mfg: a Glock. In this case, a Glock 42.
This pistol is so small. It easily will fit any deep cover carry needs in non-permissive environments. Yet, it fires the .380 round very well, with about the same recoil as the .22 mini mags through some witchcraft...and via the superior Glock recoil spring.
The gun will run Mozambique drills all day long, though with a 6 round capacity, I would only feel comfortable engaging two bad guys with it. Extra mags are cheap, I got to plastic ETS 9 round mags for range use and so far they've been great and easy to use.
So, 4 guns that kind cover all of the spectrum of pistols and what you might carry them for. Not intentional but it's a pretty good vertical slice.
Food for thought, morons.
Well, I gotta tell ya, if I HAD to carry a DA/SA...it would be a CZ. The CZ 75 and the Tanfoglio Witness are amazing shooters but the all-steel construction FOR SOME FOLKS is a problem (I've carried '92's for a decade with no serious difficulty). Enter the polymer P07.
This holds 15 rounds of 9mm and has that great 'inner rails' CZ accuracy..which is no joke. This shoots as well as the single actions. Mine is decocker-only but it can be modified to be a safety if that floats your boat. It's a damn fine double stack pistol. But you do still have a slight problem of a different trigger pull in single action vs the first shot in double action.
So, we add a striker fired pistol from THE striker fired pistol mfg: a Glock. In this case, a Glock 42.
This pistol is so small. It easily will fit any deep cover carry needs in non-permissive environments. Yet, it fires the .380 round very well, with about the same recoil as the .22 mini mags through some witchcraft...and via the superior Glock recoil spring.
The gun will run Mozambique drills all day long, though with a 6 round capacity, I would only feel comfortable engaging two bad guys with it. Extra mags are cheap, I got to plastic ETS 9 round mags for range use and so far they've been great and easy to use.
So, 4 guns that kind cover all of the spectrum of pistols and what you might carry them for. Not intentional but it's a pretty good vertical slice.
Food for thought, morons.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:15 PM (xJa6I)
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Weasel,
I'm about to pull the trigger on a slightly used CZ75B. I hear nothing but good things about the pistol. Can't fire it due to quick sale and other factors but love the heft and feel. Reminds me of the Sig Sauer in weight and balance. But I would like your opinion.
Thanks
I'm about to pull the trigger on a slightly used CZ75B. I hear nothing but good things about the pistol. Can't fire it due to quick sale and other factors but love the heft and feel. Reminds me of the Sig Sauer in weight and balance. But I would like your opinion.
Thanks
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:15 PM (pw+jk)
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JTB, wow. Thanks for the info re Ruger.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 08:16 PM (miE9U)
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Mark A E, you have entirely too much disposable income.
And a Naughty Nurse with whom to shoot.
I haz jealous.
And a Naughty Nurse with whom to shoot.
I haz jealous.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:16 PM (+6GvU)
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Here's the story in Breitbart about NYT, Hondurans, and MS-13:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5utqpe8
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5utqpe8
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at June 02, 2019 08:17 PM (4HMW8)
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158 Keith that sounded snarky, and it was, but aimed at myself.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (hSQmw)
No problem. You are correct that that Maks rep is on ball. I was pleased that mine fed the hollowpoint. It's just as cheap and as easy to find.
I've got the P64 and CZ83 as well. Both run on anything as well. The P64 is brutal to shoot though. I'd rather be shooting hot magnum loads. More cheap surplus purchases from AIM. Missed the Maks when they were $150 or so. Hit them about $200.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 08:11 PM (hSQmw)
No problem. You are correct that that Maks rep is on ball. I was pleased that mine fed the hollowpoint. It's just as cheap and as easy to find.
I've got the P64 and CZ83 as well. Both run on anything as well. The P64 is brutal to shoot though. I'd rather be shooting hot magnum loads. More cheap surplus purchases from AIM. Missed the Maks when they were $150 or so. Hit them about $200.
Posted by: Keith at June 02, 2019 08:17 PM (jdGlx)
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Help with homework!!!
Do you carry the one or multiply by the numerator?
(There's a reason I was a political science major)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:51 PM (j3ReE)
always divide by zero. the answers are infinite.
Help with homework!!!
Do you carry the one or multiply by the numerator?
(There's a reason I was a political science major)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:51 PM (j3ReE)
always divide by zero. the answers are infinite.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (sy5kK)
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About PMC ammo.
They, and Norma, produce the purest brass casings that I know of on the market today.
Other makers might make theirs to a higher precision, and I'd ask Weasel to weigh in on this.
But that pure brass sure makes the cases just a bit more durable, elastic and probably worth another two or three reloads in their service life.
Oh, and in a tightly chambered semi auto, that pure brass will bind just a wee bit less along the way.
Progressive reloading machines seem to love the stuff, too.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
They, and Norma, produce the purest brass casings that I know of on the market today.
Other makers might make theirs to a higher precision, and I'd ask Weasel to weigh in on this.
But that pure brass sure makes the cases just a bit more durable, elastic and probably worth another two or three reloads in their service life.
Oh, and in a tightly chambered semi auto, that pure brass will bind just a wee bit less along the way.
Progressive reloading machines seem to love the stuff, too.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (QzJWU)
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a lot of the custom 1911 "race guns" for USPSA (STI, for example) are built on Rock Island frames
a lot of the custom 1911 "race guns" for USPSA (STI, for example) are built on Rock Island frames
Posted by: AltonJackson (click here for details for the June MoMe whats In June) at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (Dqv8A)
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I know some of you Morons have taken Appleseed classes and enjoyed them (me too). There's even an 'Ette who is now an instructor...
Any other classes / training facilities you would recommend? I have a certificate for a free class at Front Sight which I *still* haven't used (sad!) but I might be able to schedule one this year.
Any other classes / training facilities you would recommend? I have a certificate for a free class at Front Sight which I *still* haven't used (sad!) but I might be able to schedule one this year.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (0ReGO)
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So I started breaking in my new Glock 19.
Only 200 rounds in, but I think I'll be pretty good with it. It is probably too big for me to carry on my body, but fine in my handbag.
Mark had a baby Glock. I love it! Would be a perfect on body carry and it fit my hand really well. Accurate and not as much of a squirrelly kick as I thought it would.
I love the Ruger .22 pistol. 150 rounds and only 3-4 were off the mark.
Super fun!
Only 200 rounds in, but I think I'll be pretty good with it. It is probably too big for me to carry on my body, but fine in my handbag.
Mark had a baby Glock. I love it! Would be a perfect on body carry and it fit my hand really well. Accurate and not as much of a squirrelly kick as I thought it would.
I love the Ruger .22 pistol. 150 rounds and only 3-4 were off the mark.
Super fun!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (PkVlr)
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171 Mark A E, you have entirely too much disposable income.
And a Naughty Nurse with whom to shoot.
I haz jealous.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:16 PM (+6GvU)
Most of the gubs were cheap, but I did stretch a bit on the credit card because....FUCK WA state.
And I have no evidence of how naughty that nurse is, she's a perfect angel around me. Insom will be the guy to ask about the naughty.
Come shooting, I'll let you borrow them. We're shooting again next Saturday.
And a Naughty Nurse with whom to shoot.
I haz jealous.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:16 PM (+6GvU)
Most of the gubs were cheap, but I did stretch a bit on the credit card because....FUCK WA state.
And I have no evidence of how naughty that nurse is, she's a perfect angel around me. Insom will be the guy to ask about the naughty.
Come shooting, I'll let you borrow them. We're shooting again next Saturday.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:20 PM (xJa6I)
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redc - what are the 2 local funstores with good mechanics, if you can mention them? Just curious. A bit of a drive for me, but always good to have the intel just in case.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
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American Gun W*rks in Glendale and Addax Tactical in San Fernando.
there's also a guy out in San Gabriel who specializes in cleaning expensive shotguns, but i disremember his name. i think he does smithing on them as well. found him through Moore and Moore Sporting Clays.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
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American Gun W*rks in Glendale and Addax Tactical in San Fernando.
there's also a guy out in San Gabriel who specializes in cleaning expensive shotguns, but i disremember his name. i think he does smithing on them as well. found him through Moore and Moore Sporting Clays.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 08:20 PM (znxDN)
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hogmartin, you've got mail
hogmartin, you've got mail
Posted by: AltonJackson (click here for details for the June MoMe whats In June) at June 02, 2019 08:21 PM (Dqv8A)
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Need to give a thanks out to the morons who gave good marks to the Walther P22 awhile back when I askef. Sweet little gun. Put about 200 rounds of various quality ammo through it without a single jam . Petfect fit for what we wanted. Decided to het my CWP before Wa St makes that more difficult.
Posted by: Sock Monkey kicking back and enjoying a little porch music at June 02, 2019 08:21 PM (L4L/X)
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Paste your copied stuff here:
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Click the 'convert' button, then copy and paste converted stuff (lower window) here. Only takes a second, works great. Try it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 07:52 PM (YvUf/)
Thanks Mike! I'm going to try it.
Paste your copied stuff here:
https://www.charset.org/html-special-characters
Click the 'convert' button, then copy and paste converted stuff (lower window) here. Only takes a second, works great. Try it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 07:52 PM (YvUf/)
Thanks Mike! I'm going to try it.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 08:21 PM (sy5kK)
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169 Weasel,
I'm about to pull the trigger on a slightly used CZ75B. I hear nothing but good things about the pistol. Can't fire it due to quick sale and other factors but love the heft and feel. Reminds me of the Sig Sauer in weight and balance. But I would like your opinion.
Thanks
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:15 PM (pw+jk)
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I'm hoping some of the more knowledgeable CZ owners will speak up, but I can't recall anyone ever having anything bad to say about them. I don't own one but the ones I've fired have all been very solid.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a slightly used CZ75B. I hear nothing but good things about the pistol. Can't fire it due to quick sale and other factors but love the heft and feel. Reminds me of the Sig Sauer in weight and balance. But I would like your opinion.
Thanks
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:15 PM (pw+jk)
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I'm hoping some of the more knowledgeable CZ owners will speak up, but I can't recall anyone ever having anything bad to say about them. I don't own one but the ones I've fired have all been very solid.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (MVjcR)
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just three minutes ago, 100' out the door, the rabbit just laid down, not even a hop. But the follow up on rabbit two, from about 50', clean miss twice. I really need to practice.
Sometimes it seems, when I have such a clean shot, maybe I have guilt, or some such subtle thing. But when the shot is more of a challenge, I get more mentally geared up? Not sure ... but two rabbits entered the garden, one rabbit left.
just my old 22 with the iron sights ... my eyes might also be a factor, some fuzziness in there.
Sometimes it seems, when I have such a clean shot, maybe I have guilt, or some such subtle thing. But when the shot is more of a challenge, I get more mentally geared up? Not sure ... but two rabbits entered the garden, one rabbit left.
just my old 22 with the iron sights ... my eyes might also be a factor, some fuzziness in there.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (Cus5s)
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Any other classes / training facilities you would recommend? I have a certificate for a free class at Front Sight which I *still* haven't used (sad!) but I might be able to schedule one this year.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (0ReGO)
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for women who want to find out about shooting w/o extra testosterone, nothing is a better intro, IMHO, than "Women on Target"
taught by women, for women, it's class room from morning to lunch, demystifying all the terms and discussing safety rules, then off to the range after they eat. mostly 22's, but if people bring other guns (which we did to the one HRH took) there will be other things to shoot as well.
time and money well spent if you have your eye on an 'ette who is a firearms virgin.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (0ReGO)
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for women who want to find out about shooting w/o extra testosterone, nothing is a better intro, IMHO, than "Women on Target"
taught by women, for women, it's class room from morning to lunch, demystifying all the terms and discussing safety rules, then off to the range after they eat. mostly 22's, but if people bring other guns (which we did to the one HRH took) there will be other things to shoot as well.
time and money well spent if you have your eye on an 'ette who is a firearms virgin.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (znxDN)
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Naughty Nurse R, my favorite hand gun is my G19. Well, it's actually the G32, becuz .357 sig, but same frame. With barrels for .40 S&W and 9 mm.
Sweet spot for my hands and for non obvious carry.
Sweet spot for my hands and for non obvious carry.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (+6GvU)
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Oh double rundown!
(Sorry).
Umm... Brave Sir Robin should show up. He asked when the gub thread was and we told him but then I was like oh hey they're all gub threads and what up?
I was expecting, like, what's the "30" in .30-30 mean, or the "06" in .30-06? No. He was full of this kind of modular platform of that kind of AK variant with a left-handed swizel.
(Sorry).
Umm... Brave Sir Robin should show up. He asked when the gub thread was and we told him but then I was like oh hey they're all gub threads and what up?
I was expecting, like, what's the "30" in .30-30 mean, or the "06" in .30-06? No. He was full of this kind of modular platform of that kind of AK variant with a left-handed swizel.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2019 08:24 PM (fuK7c)
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Jukin @ 169--The CZ75-SP-01 is a real sweet handler and accurate as heck. You can't go wrong with one.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 08:24 PM (qBNEP)
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I once sent in a Burris scope that had been dropped. No obvious dings, still was zeroed and adjusted fine. However it now had a few particles of something on an internal lens surface. I had owned the thing for more than twenty years and it was merely an annoyance, but I decided to send it in to be checked out and cleaned internally. I fully expected to pay for the service, but it showed up in a couple weeks clean in and out, no charge. And a new set of scope covers thrown in.
Posted by: irright at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (RVcmP)
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169 Weasel,
I'm about to pull the trigger on a slightly used CZ75B. I hear
nothing but good things about the pistol. Can't fire it due to quick
sale and other factors but love the heft and feel. Reminds me of the Sig
Sauer in weight and balance. But I would like your opinion.
Thanks
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:15 PM (pw+jk)
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I'm hoping some of the more knowledgeable CZ owners will speak up,
but I can't recall anyone ever having anything bad to say about them. I
don't own one but the ones I've fired have all been very solid.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (MVjcR)
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They have. Just thought I get more opinions. Knowing my luck the guy has sold it in the last three days I haven't been able to get a hold of. That is the way it works for me.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a slightly used CZ75B. I hear
nothing but good things about the pistol. Can't fire it due to quick
sale and other factors but love the heft and feel. Reminds me of the Sig
Sauer in weight and balance. But I would like your opinion.
Thanks
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:15 PM (pw+jk)
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I'm hoping some of the more knowledgeable CZ owners will speak up,
but I can't recall anyone ever having anything bad to say about them. I
don't own one but the ones I've fired have all been very solid.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (MVjcR)
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They have. Just thought I get more opinions. Knowing my luck the guy has sold it in the last three days I haven't been able to get a hold of. That is the way it works for me.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (pw+jk)
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184 169 Weasel,
I'm about to pull the trigger on a slightly used CZ75B. I hear nothing but good things about the pistol. Can't fire it due to quick sale and other factors but love the heft and feel. Reminds me of the Sig Sauer in weight and balance. But I would like your opinion.
Thanks
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:15 PM (pw+jk)
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I'm hoping some of the more knowledgeable CZ owners will speak up, but I can't recall anyone ever having anything bad to say about them. I don't own one but the ones I've fired have all been very solid.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (MVjcR)
Since Weasel is opening it up, Junkin..BUY it. You won't regret it.
The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th century, I think.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a slightly used CZ75B. I hear nothing but good things about the pistol. Can't fire it due to quick sale and other factors but love the heft and feel. Reminds me of the Sig Sauer in weight and balance. But I would like your opinion.
Thanks
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:15 PM (pw+jk)
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I'm hoping some of the more knowledgeable CZ owners will speak up, but I can't recall anyone ever having anything bad to say about them. I don't own one but the ones I've fired have all been very solid.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (MVjcR)
Since Weasel is opening it up, Junkin..BUY it. You won't regret it.
The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th century, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (xJa6I)
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Re brass, thanks Jim! I'm only in the exploration phase, but that's helpful to know.
Off to start the bbq...
Off to start the bbq...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 08:26 PM (0ReGO)
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Jukin @ 169--The CZ75-SP-01 is a real sweet handler and accurate as heck. You can't go wrong with one.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 08:24 PM (qBNEP)
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Thanks Eromero. That seems to be the drift. Just wish I could take to range before. But what the hell it feels so good in my hand.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 08:24 PM (qBNEP)
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Thanks Eromero. That seems to be the drift. Just wish I could take to range before. But what the hell it feels so good in my hand.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:26 PM (pw+jk)
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Hey RI red!
I need that little baby Glock. Imma get one!
And I'm not naughty around Mark. He's married!
I need that little baby Glock. Imma get one!
And I'm not naughty around Mark. He's married!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 02, 2019 08:26 PM (PkVlr)
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Mozambique drills
Ha!
Or as my granddaughter says, two in the pump house, one in the junction box.
Ha!
Or as my granddaughter says, two in the pump house, one in the junction box.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM (j3ReE)
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>>> 186 Any other classes / training facilities you would recommend? I have a certificate for a free class at Front Sight which I *still* haven't used (sad!) but I might be able to schedule one this year.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (0ReGO)
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for women who want to find out about shooting w/o extra testosterone, nothing is a better intro, IMHO, than "Women on Target"
taught by women, for women, it's class room from morning to lunch, demystifying all the terms and discussing safety rules, then off to the range after they eat. mostly 22's, but if people bring other guns (which we did to the one HRH took) there will be other things to shoot as well.
time and money well spent if you have your eye on an 'ette who is a firearms virgin.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (znxDN)
Thanks red!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (0ReGO)
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for women who want to find out about shooting w/o extra testosterone, nothing is a better intro, IMHO, than "Women on Target"
taught by women, for women, it's class room from morning to lunch, demystifying all the terms and discussing safety rules, then off to the range after they eat. mostly 22's, but if people bring other guns (which we did to the one HRH took) there will be other things to shoot as well.
time and money well spent if you have your eye on an 'ette who is a firearms virgin.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2019 08:23 PM (znxDN)
Thanks red!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM (0ReGO)
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The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th century, I think.[/]
True or false: the CZ 75 is a copy of the Browning High Power? Sincere question; they look similar externally but I really don't know about either in detail.
True or false: the CZ 75 is a copy of the Browning High Power? Sincere question; they look similar externally but I really don't know about either in detail.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 08:29 PM (qc+VF)
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Since Weasel is opening it up, Junkin..BUY it. You won't regret it.
The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will
feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th
century, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (xJa6I)
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Thanks MAE. Yeah the weight is what I liked. I know the guy will be back in town for sure Tuesday. Will let all know when it is mine.
The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will
feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th
century, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (xJa6I)
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Thanks MAE. Yeah the weight is what I liked. I know the guy will be back in town for sure Tuesday. Will let all know when it is mine.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:29 PM (pw+jk)
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Hurrah for nic tags!
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 08:29 PM (qc+VF)
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VB shooter guns were 45 semi autos per police chief.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 02, 2019 08:30 PM (pj5aK)
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Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 08:18 PM (QzJWU)
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I use Lapua brass exclusively in my match guns. I have had good luck with norma brass too over the years. PMC ammo has always worked fine for me and I have no reason to suspect the brass isn't of a very good quality from a materials perspective.
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I use Lapua brass exclusively in my match guns. I have had good luck with norma brass too over the years. PMC ammo has always worked fine for me and I have no reason to suspect the brass isn't of a very good quality from a materials perspective.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:30 PM (MVjcR)
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True or false: the CZ 75 is a copy of the
Browning High Power? Sincere question; they look similar externally but
I really don't know about either in detail.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 08:29 PM (qc+VF)
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From my research, very similar internals and bolt/locking. Me likely internal rails.
Browning High Power? Sincere question; they look similar externally but
I really don't know about either in detail.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 08:29 PM (qc+VF)
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From my research, very similar internals and bolt/locking. Me likely internal rails.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:31 PM (pw+jk)
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Since Weasel is opening it up, Junkin..BUY it. You won't regret it.
The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th century, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (xJa6I)
Yup....when you got that feeling and it feels right, buy it.
You always regret the one(s) you didn't so live a little.
Life ain't no dress rehearsal.
The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th century, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (xJa6I)
Yup....when you got that feeling and it feels right, buy it.
You always regret the one(s) you didn't so live a little.
Life ain't no dress rehearsal.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 02, 2019 08:31 PM (Z+IKu)
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Going off topic though, I will absolutely vouch for Gerber Knives
service. No need for the "stories", just trust that they were first
rate, in every regard.
I can vouch for this as well. I have a folder that they no longer produce, which has a pocket clip that I managed to snap off. I emailed to inquire about purchasing a replacement clip; the response from Gerber was to ask for the model of knife and a shipping address. Four days later a new pocket clip and the requisite screws arrived in the mail, gratis.
service. No need for the "stories", just trust that they were first
rate, in every regard.
I can vouch for this as well. I have a folder that they no longer produce, which has a pocket clip that I managed to snap off. I emailed to inquire about purchasing a replacement clip; the response from Gerber was to ask for the model of knife and a shipping address. Four days later a new pocket clip and the requisite screws arrived in the mail, gratis.
Posted by: Bert G at June 02, 2019 08:32 PM (OMsf+)
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1 The Virginia Beach shooter used two .45 pistols. He had a 5-8 minute shoot out with the Police. I'm assuming they were not 1911s.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (2DOZq)
So between that and all the peeps he shot he was reloading repeatedly, yes??
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (d+hd5)
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The sheriff or chief of police who did the news conference the other night made it a point to repeat that extended capacity magazines had been used.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 02, 2019 08:00 PM (2DOZq)
So between that and all the peeps he shot he was reloading repeatedly, yes??
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:03 PM (d+hd5)
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The sheriff or chief of police who did the news conference the other night made it a point to repeat that extended capacity magazines had been used.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:32 PM (MVjcR)
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I also love my S&W .357 revolver.
Makes me feel all cowgirl n shit.
But really, I would spend more time on .375 double action. It's hard, but I think if I challenge myself to get good with her, just about everything else will be a little easier.
Makes me feel all cowgirl n shit.
But really, I would spend more time on .375 double action. It's hard, but I think if I challenge myself to get good with her, just about everything else will be a little easier.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 02, 2019 08:33 PM (PkVlr)
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Weasel, for the longest time my range book has said, "Savage does not like 150 grain; don't bother." This was based on shooting M2 Ball through it.
Well, being someone who doesn't listen to anyone, including myself, last month I loaded up some Hornady FMJ-BT 150 g over IMR 4350 in increasing dosages. Turns out that I was wrong - surprise! On the last level I got .5 inch groups with only 1" flyers at 100 yds. Not bad for an out of the box gun that anyone can buy.
Next week is doing seating depth on the best load. You have created a monster. Thanx!
Well, being someone who doesn't listen to anyone, including myself, last month I loaded up some Hornady FMJ-BT 150 g over IMR 4350 in increasing dosages. Turns out that I was wrong - surprise! On the last level I got .5 inch groups with only 1" flyers at 100 yds. Not bad for an out of the box gun that anyone can buy.
Next week is doing seating depth on the best load. You have created a monster. Thanx!
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:34 PM (+6GvU)
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Astros sweep the A's, 6-4 in 12. Altuve, Springer and Correa are all on the injured list, which makes it all the better.
Astros sweep the A's, 6-4 in 12. Altuve, Springer and Correa are all on the injured list, which makes it all the better.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2019 08:35 PM (0RLJq)
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Oh! Just remembered. Nikon scope on Savage unseated its cross hairs. Sent it back and they sent me an entirely new upgraded model. Customer service!
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:36 PM (+6GvU)
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No mention of H&K's legendary service motto?
"Because you suck, and we hate you!"
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 07:20 PM (QzJWU)
Heh. I knew THAT would come up!
I've wondered about Larry Correia and John Ringo working together on the Monster Hunter Files books. Correia coined that phrase in his classic blog post about H und K's customer service, and Ringo is a long-time HK fanboi, judging by how often the subject comes up in his own books. I keep imagining them savagely flinging typewriter ribbons at each other as they argue the issue.
No mention of H&K's legendary service motto?
"Because you suck, and we hate you!"
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 07:20 PM (QzJWU)
Heh. I knew THAT would come up!
I've wondered about Larry Correia and John Ringo working together on the Monster Hunter Files books. Correia coined that phrase in his classic blog post about H und K's customer service, and Ringo is a long-time HK fanboi, judging by how often the subject comes up in his own books. I keep imagining them savagely flinging typewriter ribbons at each other as they argue the issue.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2019 08:36 PM (eXA4G)
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The sheriff or chief of police who did the news conference the other night made it a point to repeat that extended capacity magazines had been used.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:32 PM (MVjcR)
So that means it's time to load up on 40 round clips and 100 round drums?
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:32 PM (MVjcR)
So that means it's time to load up on 40 round clips and 100 round drums?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:36 PM (d+hd5)
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208 Weasel, for the longest time my range book has said, "Savage does not like 150 grain; don't bother." This was based on shooting M2 Ball through it.
Well, being someone who doesn't listen to anyone, including myself, last month I loaded up some Hornady FMJ-BT 150 g over IMR 4350 in increasing dosages. Turns out that I was wrong - surprise! On the last level I got .5 inch groups with only 1" flyers at 100 yds. Not bad for an out of the box gun that anyone can buy.
Next week is doing seating depth on the best load. You have created a monster. Thanx!
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:34 PM (+6GvU)
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Good to hear, brother!
Well, being someone who doesn't listen to anyone, including myself, last month I loaded up some Hornady FMJ-BT 150 g over IMR 4350 in increasing dosages. Turns out that I was wrong - surprise! On the last level I got .5 inch groups with only 1" flyers at 100 yds. Not bad for an out of the box gun that anyone can buy.
Next week is doing seating depth on the best load. You have created a monster. Thanx!
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:34 PM (+6GvU)
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Good to hear, brother!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:38 PM (MVjcR)
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LCD,
Both of my boys went out to the mountains on Friday. They had 3-4 ARs, a 20 gauge, a 12 gauge KSG, and some homemade ARs a 6.5 Grendel. Also a couple pistols.
They had a ball. Four boys and a girlie.
Both of my boys went out to the mountains on Friday. They had 3-4 ARs, a 20 gauge, a 12 gauge KSG, and some homemade ARs a 6.5 Grendel. Also a couple pistols.
They had a ball. Four boys and a girlie.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 02, 2019 08:38 PM (PkVlr)
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CZ75 remains my "next gun". It already was, but then a deal on the 1866 Yellow Boy came along and I had little choice but to act.
Have a CZ83 [like Keith bought one, surplus, from AIM in OH]. Liked it so much, when I - amazingly - came across a new one in a toy store, had to get it. Cleaned, function checked, CLP's "COL" oil formulation applied sparingly, and stored away. Think it was one of the last new ones sold - one of a limited run done for a North American distributor after the model was discontinued by CZ.
Have a CZ83 [like Keith bought one, surplus, from AIM in OH]. Liked it so much, when I - amazingly - came across a new one in a toy store, had to get it. Cleaned, function checked, CLP's "COL" oil formulation applied sparingly, and stored away. Think it was one of the last new ones sold - one of a limited run done for a North American distributor after the model was discontinued by CZ.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 08:38 PM (QDnY+)
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So that means it's time to load up on 40 round clips and 100 round drums?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:36 PM (d+hd5)
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Yeah. Like I said, he went out of his way to repeat the point.
So that means it's time to load up on 40 round clips and 100 round drums?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:36 PM (d+hd5)
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Yeah. Like I said, he went out of his way to repeat the point.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:39 PM (MVjcR)
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Need to give a thanks out to the morons who gave good marks to the
Walther P22 awhile back when I askef. Sweet little gun. Put about 200
rounds of various quality ammo through it without a single jam . Petfect
fit for what we wanted. Decided to het my CWP before Wa St makes that
more difficult.
Posted by: Sock Monkey kicking back and enjoying a little porch music at June 02, 2019 08:21 PM (L4L/X)
DNK if that was me, but in a past thread I expressed my pleasure at that little piece. Little LCD and friends all enjoyed that gun quite a bit. Everyone wanted to try it, and it never took time off all day.
The 375 round box and the open box of maybe 100 rounds of .22LR was all gone when he stopped by. zero misfires.
Need to give a thanks out to the morons who gave good marks to the
Walther P22 awhile back when I askef. Sweet little gun. Put about 200
rounds of various quality ammo through it without a single jam . Petfect
fit for what we wanted. Decided to het my CWP before Wa St makes that
more difficult.
Posted by: Sock Monkey kicking back and enjoying a little porch music at June 02, 2019 08:21 PM (L4L/X)
DNK if that was me, but in a past thread I expressed my pleasure at that little piece. Little LCD and friends all enjoyed that gun quite a bit. Everyone wanted to try it, and it never took time off all day.
The 375 round box and the open box of maybe 100 rounds of .22LR was all gone when he stopped by. zero misfires.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 08:39 PM (sy5kK)
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I own a small underwater arsenal and being an engineer (by trade) I have never encountered a problem that couldn't be resolved by seaweed, crawdad droppings and elbow grease.
Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2019 08:39 PM (LuPts)
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They had a ball. Four boys and a girlie.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 02, 2019 08:38 PM (PkVlr)
Bet she was tired.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 02, 2019 08:38 PM (PkVlr)
Bet she was tired.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:40 PM (d+hd5)
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198 The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th century, I think.[/]
True or false: the CZ 75 is a copy of the Browning High Power? Sincere question; they look similar externally but I really don't know about either in detail.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 08:29 PM (qc+VF)
The CZ 75 has a lot in common with the Browning Hi-Power but it's not identical. The slide inside the rails is one big difference, but there are some internal differences.
So it's a copy, like the Makarov is a copy of the Walther PP, but not a knock off like the way the Turks and Spaniards have literally copied successful guns.
True or false: the CZ 75 is a copy of the Browning High Power? Sincere question; they look similar externally but I really don't know about either in detail.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 08:29 PM (qc+VF)
The CZ 75 has a lot in common with the Browning Hi-Power but it's not identical. The slide inside the rails is one big difference, but there are some internal differences.
So it's a copy, like the Makarov is a copy of the Walther PP, but not a knock off like the way the Turks and Spaniards have literally copied successful guns.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:40 PM (xJa6I)
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Since Weasel is opening it up, Junkin..BUY it. You won't regret it.
The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th century, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (xJa6I)
DO IT.
I have the P-01 myself, and it's a tack driver. Better yet is that the only time it's ever jammed on me is with out-of-spec ammo.
Since Weasel is opening it up, Junkin..BUY it. You won't regret it.
The gun is not light, but that means shooting 9mm out of it will feel like cheating. The CZ 75 is one of the top 5 pistols of the 20th century, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:25 PM (xJa6I)
DO IT.
I have the P-01 myself, and it's a tack driver. Better yet is that the only time it's ever jammed on me is with out-of-spec ammo.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2019 08:41 PM (eXA4G)
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Bert G @ 205-, I had a Gerber folder missing a screw and stopped by the Kershaw knife booth at the NRA convention to see if they had screws that would fit. The very attractive lady running the booth not only gave me some screws, but threw in a screwdriver set too. I bought 2 Kershaws from her. One I carry for work, and the other is clipped in my Wrangler pocket right now. Mrs. E and I probably have a dozen of each brand around here.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 08:41 PM (qBNEP)
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The sheriff or chief of police who did the news conference the other night made it a point to repeat that extended capacity magazines had been used.
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If he was using 1911s that means he could've had as many as 8 rounds?
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If he was using 1911s that means he could've had as many as 8 rounds?
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (2DpZX)
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196 Mozambique drills
Ha!
Or as my granddaughter says, two in the pump house, one in the junction box.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM (j3ReE)
Yup.
"Two to the body, one to the head;
puts a man down, makes him dead."
Ha!
Or as my granddaughter says, two in the pump house, one in the junction box.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM (j3ReE)
Yup.
"Two to the body, one to the head;
puts a man down, makes him dead."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (xJa6I)
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169 .. Jukin, Hope you don't mind me butting in. The CZ75b is a superb pistol. Very accurate and reliable. (Keep it cleaned and lubed for best results.) Oddly, it is comfortable for Mrs. JTB with her small hands and for me with my catcher mitts.
I've mentioned in previous threads, CZ makes a 22lr adapter for the 75b that is nicely accurate.
I've mentioned in previous threads, CZ makes a 22lr adapter for the 75b that is nicely accurate.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (bmdz3)
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According to the msm Republicans in the Va House defeated a bill to ban extended magazine. A 45 extended mag is typically 26 rounds. So Republicans responsible for shooting.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 02, 2019 08:44 PM (pj5aK)
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225 169 .. Jukin, Hope you don't mind me butting in. The CZ75b is a superb pistol. Very accurate and reliable. (Keep it cleaned and lubed for best results.) Oddly, it is comfortable for Mrs. JTB with her small hands and for me with my catcher mitts.
I've mentioned in previous threads, CZ makes a 22lr adapter for the 75b that is nicely accurate.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (bmdz3)
Yup, they make a Kadet for the P07. I'll be buying once I've paid off the CC for the last splurge. It's not a 'firearm', so I can have it delivered right to the house too!
I've mentioned in previous threads, CZ makes a 22lr adapter for the 75b that is nicely accurate.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (bmdz3)
Yup, they make a Kadet for the P07. I'll be buying once I've paid off the CC for the last splurge. It's not a 'firearm', so I can have it delivered right to the house too!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:44 PM (xJa6I)
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...Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 08:41 PM (qBNEP)
The Japanese made Kershaws are some of the finest production knives ever made.
Period.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
The Japanese made Kershaws are some of the finest production knives ever made.
Period.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 08:44 PM (QzJWU)
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According to the msm Republicans in the Va House defeated a bill to ban extended magazine. A 45 extended mag is typically 26 rounds. So Republicans responsible for shooting.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 02, 2019 08:44 PM (pj5aK)
And all blacks then.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 02, 2019 08:44 PM (pj5aK)
And all blacks then.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 08:45 PM (d+hd5)
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Nurse R, the Baby Glock is sweet. RI Redson has one and it's a dream, especially after shooting my Ruger LCP in the same caliber. But the LCP is just small enough that I can carry it anywhere.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:45 PM (+6GvU)
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169 .. Jukin, Hope you don't mind me butting in. The
CZ75b is a superb pistol. Very accurate and reliable. (Keep it cleaned
and lubed for best results.) Oddly, it is comfortable for Mrs. JTB with
her small hands and for me with my catcher mitts.
I've mentioned in previous threads, CZ makes a 22lr adapter for the 75b that is nicely accurate.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (bmdz3)
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Thanks and Mark Andrews Edwards mentioned the 22LR kit.
CZ75b is a superb pistol. Very accurate and reliable. (Keep it cleaned
and lubed for best results.) Oddly, it is comfortable for Mrs. JTB with
her small hands and for me with my catcher mitts.
I've mentioned in previous threads, CZ makes a 22lr adapter for the 75b that is nicely accurate.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (bmdz3)
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Thanks and Mark Andrews Edwards mentioned the 22LR kit.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:45 PM (pw+jk)
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Gunga la Gunga
Posted by: JT at June 02, 2019 08:45 PM (kDGnU)
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Huh. They do make a 26 round G21 mag.
Better buy one. I don't need one but FUCK YOU, gun grabbers.
Better buy one. I don't need one but FUCK YOU, gun grabbers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:46 PM (xJa6I)
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I "standardized" on PMC .38 special brass for reloading by buying a case of their ammo just before I started to reload. Has worked fine.
Actually, have not standardized in any other caliber - apart I guess from 3O-O6, where I use HXP brass [bought a bunch along with the 2 M-1s from CMP].
Looks like it'll be Starline for the 45 Colt, as I picked up a bunch of LAX Ammo 45C to get me going in that caliber.
In my 45ACP brass, occasionally come across headstamps [barely legible] from WWII arsenals [Denver, St. Louis, as I recall] - which is fun.
Actually, have not standardized in any other caliber - apart I guess from 3O-O6, where I use HXP brass [bought a bunch along with the 2 M-1s from CMP].
Looks like it'll be Starline for the 45 Colt, as I picked up a bunch of LAX Ammo 45C to get me going in that caliber.
In my 45ACP brass, occasionally come across headstamps [barely legible] from WWII arsenals [Denver, St. Louis, as I recall] - which is fun.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 08:47 PM (QDnY+)
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Huh. They do make a 26 round G21 mag.
Better buy one. I don't need one but FUCK YOU, gun grabbers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:46 PM (xJa6I)
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Most of my buys since 2008 have been hate buys or fuck you buys.
Better buy one. I don't need one but FUCK YOU, gun grabbers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:46 PM (xJa6I)
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Most of my buys since 2008 have been hate buys or fuck you buys.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 08:47 PM (pw+jk)
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I had a bad experience with Thompson/Center. I needed a replacement screw for my Contender barrel stock. I stripped out the screw. Well I emailed T/C and asked about buying a replacement: their customer service replies and says, no problemo, tell us make and model. After I write them back and tell them its a G1 Contender with an 8" octagonal barrel, radio silence. I literally never heard a thing from them after that.
I had to go to Ebay and buy a couple of aftermarket screws.
I had to go to Ebay and buy a couple of aftermarket screws.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 02, 2019 08:47 PM (5Yee7)
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It would be nice of them to mention the manufacturer. None of the non-factory extended pistol magazines I've ever encountered have ever fed for sh*t.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 08:47 PM (2DpZX)
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in re: customer service; Phoenix Arms has been very good
(Phoenix makes The Raven, the classic .25APC "Saturday Night Special" & the HP22, a 10 round .22LR semi-auto)
I had a Phoenix Arms HP22 for years & just wore it out. Finally the slide just broke. Called them up to ask about buying a new slide, next thing I know they're giving me a RMA number and shipping instructions for returning it for replacement. Less than two week later, I had a new slide & was back in business.
For a company what sells very in-expensive pistols (the HP22 is ~$145 at Cheaper Than Dirt), I thought they had "big name" customer service
in re: customer service; Phoenix Arms has been very good
(Phoenix makes The Raven, the classic .25APC "Saturday Night Special" & the HP22, a 10 round .22LR semi-auto)
I had a Phoenix Arms HP22 for years & just wore it out. Finally the slide just broke. Called them up to ask about buying a new slide, next thing I know they're giving me a RMA number and shipping instructions for returning it for replacement. Less than two week later, I had a new slide & was back in business.
For a company what sells very in-expensive pistols (the HP22 is ~$145 at Cheaper Than Dirt), I thought they had "big name" customer service
Posted by: AltonJackson (click here for details for the June MoMe whats In June) at June 02, 2019 08:48 PM (Dqv8A)
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Heh, bought TWO 26 rounds G21 mags. They were only $20 each with shipping.
Now I just have to hope they work.
On a related note, stick to factory mags for social events unless you've very thoroughly tested your after market mags.
Now I just have to hope they work.
On a related note, stick to factory mags for social events unless you've very thoroughly tested your after market mags.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:49 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: The Dalai Lama at June 02, 2019 08:49 PM (OF95o)
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I don't think I have a single extra high capacity pistol magazine. Plenty for rifles, but none for pistols other than the double stack factory style. Nothing extra long.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:49 PM (MVjcR)
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I just picked up a Henry single shot rifle in .223/5.56. Haven't had a chance to fire it yet. The wood is gorgeous walnut, the metal is nicely finished and the wood to metal fit is excellent. I'm going to the range this week to try it out with the iron sights and two bullet weights to see if it has a preference. The reviews for this line of rifles has been overwhelmingly positive.
In the meantime I'll research which scope and rings to get for it.
In the meantime I'll research which scope and rings to get for it.
Posted by: JTB at June 02, 2019 08:50 PM (bmdz3)
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Or as my granddaughter says, two in the pump house, one in the junction box.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM (j3ReE)
Yup.
"Two to the body, one to the head;
puts a man down, makes him dead."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (xJa6I)
Winning hearts and minds. Two in the heart, one in the mind.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM (j3ReE)
Yup.
"Two to the body, one to the head;
puts a man down, makes him dead."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (xJa6I)
Winning hearts and minds. Two in the heart, one in the mind.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 08:52 PM (t+qrx)
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I have a Just Right carbine that uses G21 mags.
These 26 round magazines from GunMagWarehouse should pair nicely.
Now just need to test them.
Sigh.
One more test item
These 26 round magazines from GunMagWarehouse should pair nicely.
Now just need to test them.
Sigh.
One more test item
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:52 PM (xJa6I)
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243 Or as my granddaughter says, two in the pump house, one in the junction box.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM (j3ReE)
Yup.
"Two to the body, one to the head;
puts a man down, makes him dead."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (xJa6I)
Winning hearts and minds. Two in the heart, one in the mind.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 08:52 PM (t+qrx)
Oh, I LIKE that one, Hog.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM (j3ReE)
Yup.
"Two to the body, one to the head;
puts a man down, makes him dead."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM (xJa6I)
Winning hearts and minds. Two in the heart, one in the mind.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 08:52 PM (t+qrx)
Oh, I LIKE that one, Hog.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:52 PM (xJa6I)
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I bought Model 37's for both grandkids, one had a problem after considerable usage with the bolt failing to lock after firing.
Sent it to Ithaca Gun and they repaired it at no charge, sent me a bill of particulars concerning the repair, paid the shipping AND reimbursed me for my original shipping charge.
The fix was done quickly and there's never been another problem. Really courteous professional service.
I bought Model 37's for both grandkids, one had a problem after considerable usage with the bolt failing to lock after firing.
Sent it to Ithaca Gun and they repaired it at no charge, sent me a bill of particulars concerning the repair, paid the shipping AND reimbursed me for my original shipping charge.
The fix was done quickly and there's never been another problem. Really courteous professional service.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 02, 2019 08:53 PM (KATBx)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 02, 2019 08:53 PM (PkVlr)
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The Japanese made Kershaws are some of the finest production knives ever made.
Period.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim
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I have a small Kershaw pocket knife. It probably could be carried on a keychain. It takes, and holds, an edge better than any of the other such that I have.
Conversely, a similar-sized Schrade will not take an edge and hold it through a week of opening the mail, which is the duty which it has been resigned to.
Period.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim
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I have a small Kershaw pocket knife. It probably could be carried on a keychain. It takes, and holds, an edge better than any of the other such that I have.
Conversely, a similar-sized Schrade will not take an edge and hold it through a week of opening the mail, which is the duty which it has been resigned to.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 08:53 PM (YvUf/)
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The only thing the CZ75 has in common with the BHP is the Browning-style recoil system with the slide stop pin pulling double-duty as the unlocking cam. Which describes pretty much 90% of modern autoloading pistols. The trigger mechanism is totally different, with the BHP having the mechanism divided up between the frame and the slide. Pulling the trigger pushes up on a bar in the frame that tilts a transfer bar in the slide, tripping the frame mounted sear. The CZ trigger mechanism is 100% housed in the frame.
The grip and ergonomics have some similarities, mainly that both are EXTREMELY comfortable in the hand.
The only thing the CZ75 has in common with the BHP is the Browning-style recoil system with the slide stop pin pulling double-duty as the unlocking cam. Which describes pretty much 90% of modern autoloading pistols. The trigger mechanism is totally different, with the BHP having the mechanism divided up between the frame and the slide. Pulling the trigger pushes up on a bar in the frame that tilts a transfer bar in the slide, tripping the frame mounted sear. The CZ trigger mechanism is 100% housed in the frame.
The grip and ergonomics have some similarities, mainly that both are EXTREMELY comfortable in the hand.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2019 08:53 PM (eXA4G)
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From this thread, it would appear that the gun-owning and buying Horde is solely responsible for the improved Trump economy.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 08:54 PM (+6GvU)
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Any tried one of the 80% Glock kits?
Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2019 08:54 PM (25Dt7)
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Generally it seems most are doing good jobs on customer service, easier to make list of bad results.
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 08:55 PM (BbGew)
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A 26-round mag for a 1911??? Or even for a Glock, or XD, or HK - have never seen such a thing, and can't imagine they're very reliable.
Of course reloading any mag-fed pistol is trivial, and as always, mag capacity has nothing to do with homocidal mental illness or incapacitating rage. And as always, the mag will be the focus of the authoritarian dimwits.
Y'all be watchful for lots of mass shootings to be coming in CA - a while back, a court decision meant "high capacity" mags could be purchased, and approximately one zillion were. Thus, as degradation follows welfare, big killing sprees are now guaranteed.
Of course reloading any mag-fed pistol is trivial, and as always, mag capacity has nothing to do with homocidal mental illness or incapacitating rage. And as always, the mag will be the focus of the authoritarian dimwits.
Y'all be watchful for lots of mass shootings to be coming in CA - a while back, a court decision meant "high capacity" mags could be purchased, and approximately one zillion were. Thus, as degradation follows welfare, big killing sprees are now guaranteed.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 08:55 PM (QDnY+)
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Question for my far more knowledgeable on firearms friends:
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
A better question is which brands are garbage. I've had marginal performance out of a brand new Charter Arms Bulldog back in the 1980s. It went BOOM when I pulled the trigger but it was wildly inaccurate, and I shot handguns frequently back then.
Pretty much any of the big names make decent quality handguns: but if you don't keep them clean and lubricated, none are going to be functioning flawlessly.
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
A better question is which brands are garbage. I've had marginal performance out of a brand new Charter Arms Bulldog back in the 1980s. It went BOOM when I pulled the trigger but it was wildly inaccurate, and I shot handguns frequently back then.
Pretty much any of the big names make decent quality handguns: but if you don't keep them clean and lubricated, none are going to be functioning flawlessly.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 02, 2019 08:56 PM (5Yee7)
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Anyone have recommendations on AR-10's?
I'm thinking about one for a Hog Removal/Burning Times tool.
I'm thinking about one for a Hog Removal/Burning Times tool.
Posted by: Glen the Deplorable at June 02, 2019 08:57 PM (3rAnC)
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252 Generally it seems most are doing good jobs on customer service, easier to make list of bad results.
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 08:55 PM (BbGew)
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Agreed, Skip. I didn't mention it in the thread because I didn't want to be an asshole, but the only time I've come even close to getting an attitude was from Trijicon. I have an ACOG on an AR and I called them with a question and it was pretty evident the guy I was talking to didn't want to be bothered.
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 08:55 PM (BbGew)
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Agreed, Skip. I didn't mention it in the thread because I didn't want to be an asshole, but the only time I've come even close to getting an attitude was from Trijicon. I have an ACOG on an AR and I called them with a question and it was pretty evident the guy I was talking to didn't want to be bothered.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 08:58 PM (MVjcR)
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Reports I read the Va Beach mass murderer used a 45.
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 07:21 PM (BbGew)
I also heard that he was a Professional Engineer and a disgruntled employee. I think all the casualties were in the Public Works dept., so it sounds like he had a list and checked it twice.
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2019 07:21 PM (BbGew)
I also heard that he was a Professional Engineer and a disgruntled employee. I think all the casualties were in the Public Works dept., so it sounds like he had a list and checked it twice.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 02, 2019 08:58 PM (5Yee7)
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Or as my granddaughter says, two in the pump house, one in the junction box.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM
Yup.
"Two to the body, one to the head;
puts a man down, makes him dead."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM
Winning hearts and minds. Two in the heart, one in the mind.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 08:52 PM
Two in the chest, lay it to rest
One in the head, make sure it's dead
Gun Thread or Nursery Rhyme Hour? You decide
Or as my granddaughter says, two in the pump house, one in the junction box.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 08:28 PM
Yup.
"Two to the body, one to the head;
puts a man down, makes him dead."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 08:43 PM
Winning hearts and minds. Two in the heart, one in the mind.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 08:52 PM
Two in the chest, lay it to rest
One in the head, make sure it's dead
Gun Thread or Nursery Rhyme Hour? You decide
Posted by: AltonJackson (click here for details for the June MoMe whats In June) at June 02, 2019 08:59 PM (Dqv8A)
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Of course reloading any mag-fed pistol is trivial,
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Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that an intelligent guy with the interest and ability to go the suppressed route wasn't going to be deterred by needing to carry six magazines instead of two when he decided his best option in life involved mass murder.
Of course reloading any mag-fed pistol is trivial,
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Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that an intelligent guy with the interest and ability to go the suppressed route wasn't going to be deterred by needing to carry six magazines instead of two when he decided his best option in life involved mass murder.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 09:00 PM (lPsvG)
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>>>I just picked up a Henry single shot rifle in .223/5.56. Haven't had a chance to fire it yet.<<<
I'm looking at getting a .357 mag carbine to complement my wonderful underwater pistol.
It's those high tides that keep kicking my ass!
I'm looking at getting a .357 mag carbine to complement my wonderful underwater pistol.
It's those high tides that keep kicking my ass!
Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2019 09:00 PM (LuPts)
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There were lots of purdy lever actions at today's match, in all flavors. I can see that aspect of the disease worsening, now that I have one.
And a guy with a Finn Mosin won whatever category that was in. He casts and reloads his own lead bullets for it. Incredibly accurate. Would have to sell 2 or 3 of my russki rotgut versions to pay for a Finn.
And a guy with a Finn Mosin won whatever category that was in. He casts and reloads his own lead bullets for it. Incredibly accurate. Would have to sell 2 or 3 of my russki rotgut versions to pay for a Finn.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:01 PM (QDnY+)
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Jean @ 251- Glock 80 percents? Dude, Glocks are so cheap you don't really need to build something that enables the feds to put your ass in prison.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:01 PM (qBNEP)
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I also heard that he was a Professional Engineer and a disgruntled employee. I think all the casualties were in the Public Works dept., so it sounds like he had a list and checked it twice.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
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Well, it sounds like he wasn't fired, but should have been. The event postmortem will be interesting, but then, I thought the same about the Las Vegas shooter.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
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Well, it sounds like he wasn't fired, but should have been. The event postmortem will be interesting, but then, I thought the same about the Las Vegas shooter.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 09:02 PM (HTHlp)
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Modern Schrade's aren't a good comparison.
Benchmade, ZT, Case, Spyderco, or GEC would be more appropriate.
Benchmade, ZT, Case, Spyderco, or GEC would be more appropriate.
Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2019 09:02 PM (25Dt7)
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I'm betting "standard capacity" is a whole lot like the ideal temperature of the earth, isn't it? We can't tell you what it is, but I know for a fact it's less than what you got.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 09:03 PM (lPsvG)
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Anyone have recommendations on AR-10's?
I don't have one so no recommendation from me, just a gentle reminder that there is no equivalent of mil-spec for AR-10s so be careful trying to mix and match differently branded uppers and lowers.
I don't have one so no recommendation from me, just a gentle reminder that there is no equivalent of mil-spec for AR-10s so be careful trying to mix and match differently branded uppers and lowers.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:03 PM (qc+VF)
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Evening all
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:03 PM (pcp3j)
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Emmie Oakley, if you're still here, a comment on carrying. I think everyone who starts carrying is extremely self-conscious for a while, imagining that everyone near them can tell that you're a pistol-packin' mama or pappa. Truth is , hardly anyone even suspects that a lot of people carry.
The only way you give yourself away is by "tells": touching your jacket or shirt to make sure you aren't printing, hitching up your pants or shifting your holster around for comfort, etc. The best strategy is simply to ignore the fact you're carrying - and stay in condition Orange as to people and situations.
One reason I like my LCP and holster- it feels and fits like a wallet. The only time I touch it is before I leave the house, the old "spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch" check, where I substitute "gun" for one of them.
The only way you give yourself away is by "tells": touching your jacket or shirt to make sure you aren't printing, hitching up your pants or shifting your holster around for comfort, etc. The best strategy is simply to ignore the fact you're carrying - and stay in condition Orange as to people and situations.
One reason I like my LCP and holster- it feels and fits like a wallet. The only time I touch it is before I leave the house, the old "spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch" check, where I substitute "gun" for one of them.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 09:04 PM (+6GvU)
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I also heard that he was a Professional Engineer...
*hmm, probably an NC State graduate*
Too early?
*hmm, probably an NC State graduate*
Too early?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 09:04 PM (U7Mh9)
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Howdy rickb223!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:04 PM (MVjcR)
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Anyone have recommendations on AR-10's?
Palmetto State Armory is one company.
Have one of their AR-15's.
Palmetto State Armory is one company.
Have one of their AR-15's.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:04 PM (pcp3j)
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255 Anyone have recommendations on AR-10's?
I'm thinking about one for a Hog Removal/Burning Times tool.
Posted by: Glen the Deplorable at June 02, 2019 08:57 PM (3rAnC)
I got a good deal on a Palmetto State PA-10. Trigger is awfully, awfully nice. I'm going to sight it in soon, hopefully with a local moron.
I'm thinking about one for a Hog Removal/Burning Times tool.
Posted by: Glen the Deplorable at June 02, 2019 08:57 PM (3rAnC)
I got a good deal on a Palmetto State PA-10. Trigger is awfully, awfully nice. I'm going to sight it in soon, hopefully with a local moron.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
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Evening all
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:03 PM (pcp3j)
How's life on the north end of town?
(or east, I forget now)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:03 PM (pcp3j)
How's life on the north end of town?
(or east, I forget now)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:05 PM (d+hd5)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:05 PM (pcp3j)
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Robbie, exactly. And suppose it's par for the current course, but to have law enforcement promoting such idiotic, ignorant crap, it's sickening ..... the country is so, so, so ill served by so many on the public payroll when it comes to security [and in a sheriff's case, a wound self-inflicted by the voting public].
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:05 PM (QDnY+)
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I carried my glock 26 with a clipdraw. if not familiar its a clip installed on the side of the gun and goes over the belt, gun tucked in the waistband. Fully concealed, no printing at all
Ok, i carry it with around chambered and have for years. The clip bent and so I'm going to install a new one. When looking others similar. All of them warn about not using it with a chambered round. Anyone else use the clipdraw or clone and do you chamber a round?
Ok, i carry it with around chambered and have for years. The clip bent and so I'm going to install a new one. When looking others similar. All of them warn about not using it with a chambered round. Anyone else use the clipdraw or clone and do you chamber a round?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 02, 2019 09:05 PM (OX6sG)
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 09:06 PM (lPsvG)
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Remington has a $75 rebate on the R1 going until 7/31 so you can get a good 1911 for close to $425.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 09:06 PM (yQpMk)
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Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:03 PM
Thanks for that. I hadn't thought about that point. I was considering going the 80% route. May need to think harder about it.
Thanks for that. I hadn't thought about that point. I was considering going the 80% route. May need to think harder about it.
Posted by: Glen the Deplorable at June 02, 2019 09:07 PM (3rAnC)
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So tired of arguing with idiots on Facebook.
Where in this does it say a hunting license is required?
Feral Hogs And Coyotes
Hunter Education requirements apply.
A resident or non-resident hunting license is not required to hunt depredating feral hogs or coyotes on private property with landowner authorization.
That is straight from TP&W's website.
Where in this does it say a hunting license is required?
Feral Hogs And Coyotes
Hunter Education requirements apply.
A resident or non-resident hunting license is not required to hunt depredating feral hogs or coyotes on private property with landowner authorization.
That is straight from TP&W's website.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:07 PM (pcp3j)
281
How about Cold Steel for an everyday knife?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:07 PM (QDnY+)
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I got a good deal on a Palmetto State PA-10.
Trigger is awfully, awfully nice. I'm going to sight it in soon,
hopefully with a local moron.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
Popular. All out of stock.
I got a good deal on a Palmetto State PA-10.
Trigger is awfully, awfully nice. I'm going to sight it in soon,
hopefully with a local moron.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
Popular. All out of stock.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (OX6sG)
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Remington has a $75 rebate on the R1 going until 7/31 so you can get a good 1911 for close to $425.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 09:06 PM (yQpMk)
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That is a good deal.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 09:06 PM (yQpMk)
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That is a good deal.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (MVjcR)
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Glock 80 percents? Dude, Glocks are so cheap you don't really need to build something that enables the feds to put your ass in prison.
Under current law and ATF interpretations, finishing an 80% receiver is totally legal. Just like bump stocks were a couple of months ago.
Under current law and ATF interpretations, finishing an 80% receiver is totally legal. Just like bump stocks were a couple of months ago.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (qc+VF)
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My money is on NC A&T.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron
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Pretty sure that would get you banned on FB...and outed.
My money is on NC A&T.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron
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Pretty sure that would get you banned on FB...and outed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (U7Mh9)
286
Retired, thanks.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (miE9U)
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Remington has a $75 rebate on the R1 going until 7/31 so you can get a good 1911 for close to $425.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
Fuck Remington. Because they'll fuck you on that rebate. Been there, had that happen. Re-sent all the paperwork. Still bupkis.
If you can give a rebate, you can take the money off the price at the point of sale.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
Fuck Remington. Because they'll fuck you on that rebate. Been there, had that happen. Re-sent all the paperwork. Still bupkis.
If you can give a rebate, you can take the money off the price at the point of sale.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:09 PM (pcp3j)
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That is a good deal.
Ja. I have the R1 as a government model, full length and blued. Their rebate was $100 a year or two ago when I bought mine so I got in under $400 all up. It's a great pointer.
Ja. I have the R1 as a government model, full length and blued. Their rebate was $100 a year or two ago when I bought mine so I got in under $400 all up. It's a great pointer.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 09:10 PM (yQpMk)
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Question for my far more knowledgeable on firearms friends:
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
Sorry to get to this late, Steve.
The Glock and Springfield Armory XD have been the most reliable. In tens of thousands of rounds, I've had a handful of malfunctions and those seem to have been caused by me letting the guns get VERY dirty (Springfields run dirty better than any gun I own) or by recoil springs wearing out.
Which brand name of handgun is considered the all-time most reliable?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 07:17 PM (miE9U)
Sorry to get to this late, Steve.
The Glock and Springfield Armory XD have been the most reliable. In tens of thousands of rounds, I've had a handful of malfunctions and those seem to have been caused by me letting the guns get VERY dirty (Springfields run dirty better than any gun I own) or by recoil springs wearing out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:10 PM (xJa6I)
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Pretty sure that would get you banned on FB...and outed.
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Probably. Iirc one or two of the 9/11 hijackers went there, too.
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Probably. Iirc one or two of the 9/11 hijackers went there, too.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 09:10 PM (lPsvG)
291
How about Cold Steel for an everyday knife?
Posted by: rhomboid
Still kicking myself in the ass for not getting a mini bushman while they were still being made. CS are good knives from what I've seen.
Posted by: rhomboid
Still kicking myself in the ass for not getting a mini bushman while they were still being made. CS are good knives from what I've seen.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:10 PM (pcp3j)
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Oh, and I have my quibbles with them, but the SIG P320 fired 1k rounds without a hiccup.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:11 PM (xJa6I)
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Fuck Remington. Because they'll fuck you on that rebate. Been there, had that happen. Re-sent all the paperwork. Still bupkis.
Interesting. I've gotten six rebates from them with no trouble.
Interesting. I've gotten six rebates from them with no trouble.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 02, 2019 09:11 PM (yQpMk)
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Anyone have recommendations on AR-10's?
Old skool is new again.
Brownells Retro BRN-10......
https://tinyurl.com/yyzr9zs4
Old skool is new again.
Brownells Retro BRN-10......
https://tinyurl.com/yyzr9zs4
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 02, 2019 09:11 PM (Z+IKu)
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Being a public works employee the title engineer could be rather generic.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 02, 2019 09:11 PM (w+EKT)
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...How about Cold Steel for an everyday knife?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:07 PM (QDnY+)
Cold Steel makes a perfectly functional, highly acceptable piece of working steel. It'll do.
Hold and work with an equivalent Kershaw though, and you'll find that the Kershaw has a "soul" that the Cold Steel ....well, just leaves me Cold.
To me, Cold Steel and Benchmade might as well have been turned out by the Seiko watchmaking robots. They're great, and work as advertised.
But there's something human in the workmanship in the Kershaw, that stands out.
Not quite a bespoke custom knife, but it has that kind of feel.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:07 PM (QDnY+)
Cold Steel makes a perfectly functional, highly acceptable piece of working steel. It'll do.
Hold and work with an equivalent Kershaw though, and you'll find that the Kershaw has a "soul" that the Cold Steel ....well, just leaves me Cold.
To me, Cold Steel and Benchmade might as well have been turned out by the Seiko watchmaking robots. They're great, and work as advertised.
But there's something human in the workmanship in the Kershaw, that stands out.
Not quite a bespoke custom knife, but it has that kind of feel.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 09:12 PM (QzJWU)
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How's life on the north end of town?
(or east, I forget now)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy
North. Still. :-(
Doing good. Just got back into town from the in-laws. Got to pew pew pew the Winchester 69A .22 for awhile yesterday.
(or east, I forget now)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy
North. Still. :-(
Doing good. Just got back into town from the in-laws. Got to pew pew pew the Winchester 69A .22 for awhile yesterday.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:13 PM (pcp3j)
298
The guy who won with the Finn Mosin today is *still* casting using lead from little radioactive sample containers from one of his first jobs - biotech company ordered the wrong size [decades ago]. He got a ton of lead [literally], free. Now THAT is a long-term reloading cost-saving story for the record books.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:13 PM (QDnY+)
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291 How about Cold Steel for an everyday knife?
Posted by: rhomboid
Cold Steel and Spyderco are my two favorite brands.
The Recon 1, the Voyager the Talwar, the Ti-Lite all make good largish carry knives. I really like the smallest Espada but it doesn't have a wave-open nub and I really like that feature on a defensive knife.
Posted by: rhomboid
Cold Steel and Spyderco are my two favorite brands.
The Recon 1, the Voyager the Talwar, the Ti-Lite all make good largish carry knives. I really like the smallest Espada but it doesn't have a wave-open nub and I really like that feature on a defensive knife.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:14 PM (xJa6I)
300
Popular. All out of stock.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (OX6sG)
n.b. this is the only complaint I ever hear about PSA. They have a reputation for very nice things at good prices and sell out all the time.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (OX6sG)
n.b. this is the only complaint I ever hear about PSA. They have a reputation for very nice things at good prices and sell out all the time.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (t+qrx)
301
Rickb, agreed on rebates. Companies make money on them. Customers forget to turn them in half the time. The company reneges half the time. The other half of the time the rebate has expired.
I like my Remington rifles, but I've never had a good feeling about their handguns.
I like my Remington rifles, but I've never had a good feeling about their handguns.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (+6GvU)
302
Kind of OT, but I will make it gun-related. Went to an acreage auction today, and bought a "firearms loss facilitation vehicle', otherwise known as a twelve-foot aluminum boat, for $350 dollars.
Also bought, for $100, an old McCullogh model I-40 chainsaw, which I out fuel in, once I got it home, and it starts and runs fine. Even idles!
Also bought, for $100, an old McCullogh model I-40 chainsaw, which I out fuel in, once I got it home, and it starts and runs fine. Even idles!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (7njPr)
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Thanks, RI Red.
Actually, this may have been a silly or stupid thing I did. I was walking down a street, a little bit ahead of my companions (both older and slower than me) when I spotted a group of yutes eyeing us. I checked my waistband (even though I wasn't carrying) in order to give the impression that we were not a soft target.
Like I said, I don't know if it was stupid to try to deter mischief in that manner. Maybe I was just signaling that I should be attacked first.
Actually, this may have been a silly or stupid thing I did. I was walking down a street, a little bit ahead of my companions (both older and slower than me) when I spotted a group of yutes eyeing us. I checked my waistband (even though I wasn't carrying) in order to give the impression that we were not a soft target.
Like I said, I don't know if it was stupid to try to deter mischief in that manner. Maybe I was just signaling that I should be attacked first.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (4HMW8)
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Bob The Bilderberger @ 284...Exactly! The feds are notorious entrappers of innocent folk. They can't be trusted to regulate toilet paper much less firearm-related stuff.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:16 PM (qBNEP)
305
I'm looking at getting a .357 mag carbine to complement my wonderful underwater pistol.
It's those high tides that keep kicking my ass!
Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2019 09:00 PM
I was just looking at the Henry Big Boy in .357...$650-ish at CtD
I want a lever action, but didn't want to add another caliber to the ammo management program
was looking at the Henry in .22LR, but a lever action in .357 would have a fair amount of "Burning Times" value & practicality
I'm looking at getting a .357 mag carbine to complement my wonderful underwater pistol.
It's those high tides that keep kicking my ass!
Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2019 09:00 PM
I was just looking at the Henry Big Boy in .357...$650-ish at CtD
I want a lever action, but didn't want to add another caliber to the ammo management program
was looking at the Henry in .22LR, but a lever action in .357 would have a fair amount of "Burning Times" value & practicality
Posted by: AltonJackson (click here for details for the June MoMe whats In June) at June 02, 2019 09:16 PM (Dqv8A)
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AOP, I'll have a reply to your question from earlier, re Japan/WWII end-game strategeries, in the ONT [at least I hope to].
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (QDnY+)
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So. Should I buy a SIG P365? They're finally available for rent at a few local ranges. Some hiccups with the first production run (typical SIG) but things seem to have stabilized and reports are mainly positive. Anybody own one?
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (k3g2v)
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n.b. this is the only complaint I ever hear about PSA.
Then you must read the reddit gundeals board. Quite a few people say that they have had their credit card info compromised after using PSA's online ordering system.
Then you must read the reddit gundeals board. Quite a few people say that they have had their credit card info compromised after using PSA's online ordering system.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (qc+VF)
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Hey folks, not sure how much time till the nood falls, but here goes:
Did some range time today, 15 yard target with the Walther PPQ. Finally getting a nice group at this range. My trigger pull still needs work but clealry improving.
For fun I unleashed the Colt King Cobra which was (of course) a delight to shoot and scary accurate. Of course, it has a 6" barrel, so it better be.
Putting magnums through it gets even tighter groups. I shoot it sparingly, but always enjoy the experience.
Did some range time today, 15 yard target with the Walther PPQ. Finally getting a nice group at this range. My trigger pull still needs work but clealry improving.
For fun I unleashed the Colt King Cobra which was (of course) a delight to shoot and scary accurate. Of course, it has a 6" barrel, so it better be.
Putting magnums through it gets even tighter groups. I shoot it sparingly, but always enjoy the experience.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 02, 2019 09:18 PM (cfSRQ)
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307 So. Should I buy a SIG P365? They're finally available for rent at a few local ranges. Some hiccups with the first production run (typical SIG) but things seem to have stabilized and reports are mainly positive. Anybody own one?
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (k3g2v)
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I think someone mentioned having one near the start of the comments.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (k3g2v)
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I think someone mentioned having one near the start of the comments.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:18 PM (MVjcR)
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Fuck Remington. Because they'll fuck you on that rebate. Been there, had that happen. Re-sent all the paperwork. Still bupkis.
Interesting. I've gotten six rebates from them with no trouble.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
They jacked me Christmas, actually right after Thanksgiving, of 2017 on my wife's 870 20 gauge.
Interesting. I've gotten six rebates from them with no trouble.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
They jacked me Christmas, actually right after Thanksgiving, of 2017 on my wife's 870 20 gauge.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:18 PM (pcp3j)
312
Alton, look at the Rossi versions of lever actions too, if you can. Lower price points.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:18 PM (QDnY+)
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In other news, still waiting for the Dreyse 1907 to come back from the shop. Looking forward to seeing what it can do with the right magazine.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 02, 2019 09:19 PM (cfSRQ)
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s/must read/must not read/
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:20 PM (qc+VF)
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312 Alton, look at the Rossi versions of lever actions too, if you can. Lower price points.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:18 PM (QDnY+)
I have a Rossi 92 in 44 mag.
Is nice. And pretty.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:18 PM (QDnY+)
I have a Rossi 92 in 44 mag.
Is nice. And pretty.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:20 PM (xJa6I)
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Well, it sounds like he wasn't fired, but should have been. The event postmortem will be interesting, but then, I thought the same about the Las Vegas shooter.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 09:02 PM (HTHlp)
I'm willing to bet 40 quatloos he is a member of one of the many protected classes and this will all vanish into the mists of time!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 09:02 PM (HTHlp)
I'm willing to bet 40 quatloos he is a member of one of the many protected classes and this will all vanish into the mists of time!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 02, 2019 09:20 PM (AZxMX)
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I was just looking at the Henry Big Boy in .357...$650-ish at CtD
I want a lever action, but didn't want to add another caliber to the ammo management program
was looking at the Henry in .22LR, but a lever action in .357 would have a fair amount of "Burning Times" value & practicality
Posted by: AltonJackson
Always go with the large loop lever. Your hands will thank you. And they are glove friendly in winter.
I want a lever action, but didn't want to add another caliber to the ammo management program
was looking at the Henry in .22LR, but a lever action in .357 would have a fair amount of "Burning Times" value & practicality
Posted by: AltonJackson
Always go with the large loop lever. Your hands will thank you. And they are glove friendly in winter.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:20 PM (pcp3j)
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Emmie, the only better thing would have to actually been carrying.
Get your CC. And the training to go with it.
Get your CC. And the training to go with it.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 09:20 PM (+6GvU)
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Popular. All out of stock.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (OX6sG)
n.b. this is the only complaint I ever hear about PSA. They have a reputation for very nice things at good prices and sell out all the time.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (t+qrx)
They have the S&W M&P Shield 9mm on sale again for $249.99.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (OX6sG)
n.b. this is the only complaint I ever hear about PSA. They have a reputation for very nice things at good prices and sell out all the time.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (t+qrx)
They have the S&W M&P Shield 9mm on sale again for $249.99.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:21 PM (d+hd5)
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Jim/New Sunk Dawn--Kershaw 1620YL Ken Onion Design 2.5" blade spring assist one hand. They are the cat's pajamas.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:21 PM (qBNEP)
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It's anecdotal, but I've been buying from PSA for a decade or so and have never had any problems. Probably 18-25 purchases, from uppers to stuff requiring shipping to FFLs, and I've never had any credit card issues.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 09:22 PM (lPsvG)
322
Colt King Cobra! Interesting to see it's being brought back in ..... the 3" barrel length.
Have a "snub" version myself, don't shoot it much [tho might get the accessories to use it in matches, if I ever get around to it]. Real pretty, stainless. Actually, I think Weasel used it for one of the first, if not the first, pics here on the gub threads.
Have a "snub" version myself, don't shoot it much [tho might get the accessories to use it in matches, if I ever get around to it]. Real pretty, stainless. Actually, I think Weasel used it for one of the first, if not the first, pics here on the gub threads.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:22 PM (QDnY+)
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Then you must (not) read the reddit gundeals board. Quite a few people say that they have had their credit card info compromised after using PSA's online ordering system.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (qc+VF)
Nope, I haven't. That was news to me.
I'll keep an eye out since I bought about 40lb of Federal M855 when they had the free shipping two weeks ago. Thanks.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (qc+VF)
Nope, I haven't. That was news to me.
I'll keep an eye out since I bought about 40lb of Federal M855 when they had the free shipping two weeks ago. Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:24 PM (t+qrx)
324
Anyone heard anything on the Kimber wheel guns?
Yea/Nay?
Yea/Nay?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:24 PM (pcp3j)
325
308 n.b. this is the only complaint I ever hear about PSA.
Then you must read the reddit gundeals board. Quite a few people say that they have had their credit card info compromised after using PSA's online ordering system.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (qc+VF)
Lot of noise on Reddit. Not a lot of good info from what I've seen. Better, smarter folks here, to be honest.
Then you must read the reddit gundeals board. Quite a few people say that they have had their credit card info compromised after using PSA's online ordering system.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:17 PM (qc+VF)
Lot of noise on Reddit. Not a lot of good info from what I've seen. Better, smarter folks here, to be honest.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:24 PM (xJa6I)
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324 Anyone heard anything on the Kimber wheel guns?
Yea/Nay?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:24 PM (pcp3j)
Second hand info I've heard has been positive.
Yea/Nay?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:24 PM (pcp3j)
Second hand info I've heard has been positive.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:25 PM (xJa6I)
327
hog, you buy ammo by the pound? Cool. Would love to walk up to the counter and say "I'd like 45 pounds of your best 45 Colt, please, and also a half pound of the aged gouda".
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:25 PM (QDnY+)
328
Popular. All out of stock.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (OX6sG)
n.b. this is the only complaint I ever hear about PSA. They have a
reputation for very nice things at good prices and sell out all the
time.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (t+qrx)
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Never had a problem like that but sometimes there is a few weeks lag on getting what I ordered.
Popular. All out of stock.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 02, 2019 09:08 PM (OX6sG)
n.b. this is the only complaint I ever hear about PSA. They have a
reputation for very nice things at good prices and sell out all the
time.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (t+qrx)
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Never had a problem like that but sometimes there is a few weeks lag on getting what I ordered.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 09:25 PM (pw+jk)
329
I have a newer Sig P365. So far, no issues but I'm not an expert. Hubbie actually got one after I did since he liked it so much. My Glock 43 is going to its new home tomorrow.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:26 PM (UUBmN)
330
Actually, I think Weasel used it for one of the first, if not the first, pics here on the gub threads.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:22 PM (QDnY+)
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Check it out in the 9/16/18 thread in the archives. Damn nice gun.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:22 PM (QDnY+)
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Check it out in the 9/16/18 thread in the archives. Damn nice gun.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:27 PM (MVjcR)
331
hog, you buy ammo by the pound? Cool. Would love to walk up to the counter and say "I'd like 45 pounds of your best 45 Colt, please, and also a half pound of the aged gouda".
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:25 PM (QDnY+)
Take up muzzleloading.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:25 PM (QDnY+)
Take up muzzleloading.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:28 PM (t+qrx)
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nurse, going outdoors in the deep woods is a lot of fun. Even with the anti-gunners in King County, we have a lot of good places to outdoor shoot in WA. There is a DNR area near Sedro Woolley, a former gravel pit, that is a favorite of mine, although sometimes it gets crowded. Also, the Olympic Pennsula has some great areas to shoot, near 101 just south of the split to the cutoff to Kingston and the Edmonds ferry.
Basic safety is important, especially the back stop consideration.
Outside + nice day + gubs = one mighty fine time!
Basic safety is important, especially the back stop consideration.
Outside + nice day + gubs = one mighty fine time!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 09:28 PM (sy5kK)
333
I'm willing to bet 40 quatloos he is a member of one
of the many protected classes and this will all vanish into the mists
of time!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 02, 2019 09:20 PM (AZxMX)
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Yep. Black, democrat, public employee. Will wait to see if also muzzie. It will be memory holed by tonight.
of the many protected classes and this will all vanish into the mists
of time!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 02, 2019 09:20 PM (AZxMX)
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Yep. Black, democrat, public employee. Will wait to see if also muzzie. It will be memory holed by tonight.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2019 09:28 PM (pw+jk)
334
...Jim/New Sunk Dawn--Kershaw 1620YL Ken Onion Design 2.5" blade spring assist one hand. They are the cat's pajamas.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:21 PM (qBNEP)
Discontinued!
*muffled sob*
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:21 PM (qBNEP)
Discontinued!
*muffled sob*
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 09:29 PM (QzJWU)
335
Well, gub lubbers, it's been real. Got to wind down so I can go to sleep so I can get up in the morning so I can go to work so I can get a paycheck so I can buy that sweet 6.5 Creedmore and optics that I "need".
Thx, Weasel, Weaslings and Morons. Y'all are great.
Thx, Weasel, Weaslings and Morons. Y'all are great.
Posted by: RI Red at June 02, 2019 09:29 PM (+6GvU)
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:30 PM (MVjcR)
337
Also bought, for $100, an old McCullogh model I-40 chainsaw, which I out fuel in, once I got it home, and it starts and runs fine. Even idles!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (7njPr)
Just don't go wearing a mask made of skin or else I will start to worry.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2019 09:15 PM (7njPr)
Just don't go wearing a mask made of skin or else I will start to worry.
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 02, 2019 09:30 PM (dUJdY)
338
334, Jim, Eromero
Yeah, I know. But the Scallion itself is a pretty handy little thing. As is the Link. And as a lefty, I appreciate the Kershaws.
Yeah, I know. But the Scallion itself is a pretty handy little thing. As is the Link. And as a lefty, I appreciate the Kershaws.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (k3g2v)
339
Okay....I have a general question for you maniacs.
I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot of weight!
Any thoughts?
I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot of weight!
Any thoughts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (wYseH)
340
**waves hand in front of your face**
this is not the mass shooting you are looking for...
this is not the mass shooting you are looking for...
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (UUBmN)
341
The yellow one I had in my right pocket at the TxMoMe and a black one for work. When did they discontinue them, Jim?
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (qBNEP)
342
The mini-Dozier has a positive blade lock and the clip is black. With slacks it's virtually not there.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 02, 2019 09:32 PM (w+EKT)
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Thanks Weasel, and it reminds me of another service story. Ordered some purdy Hogue pau ferro grips for the King Cobra. They came. They resisted my best efforts to get them mounted on the frame. Talked with Hogue, twice. 2nd time, nice guy said - "yeah, you've discovered something for us - they're not properly worked on the inside, won't fit the frame". He asked where I was, and when I told him, he said oh, just drive down to our facility near the border, it's where we do a lot of that work anyway.
Great experience. Their international manager received me at their facility, and then had the chief of the relevant department bring in 3 different *properly worked* sets to choose from. Gave me a bunch of their swag, gave me a quick mini-tour of their facility.
Now *that's* customer service.
Great experience. Their international manager received me at their facility, and then had the chief of the relevant department bring in 3 different *properly worked* sets to choose from. Gave me a bunch of their swag, gave me a quick mini-tour of their facility.
Now *that's* customer service.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:32 PM (QDnY+)
344
Being a public works employee the title engineer could be rather generic.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I wonder if he was in fact a registered PE. That process usually weeds out the weak sisters.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I wonder if he was in fact a registered PE. That process usually weeds out the weak sisters.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2019 09:32 PM (2qPhT)
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Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (UUBmN)
Why are you rehoming a Glock? Thinking about unloading anything else?
Why are you rehoming a Glock? Thinking about unloading anything else?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:33 PM (d+hd5)
346
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (qBNEP)
You color coordinate your pocket knives?
That may be the coolest thing I have ever heard...
You color coordinate your pocket knives?
That may be the coolest thing I have ever heard...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:33 PM (wYseH)
347
339 Okay....I have a general question for you maniacs.
I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot of weight!
Any thoughts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (wYseH)
That's the tradeoff. Weight means a more comfortable shooting experience and a more painful hiking experience.
If you're going to go hunting with it, you want a lighter one. If it's a range toy, the weight will be welcome.
I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot of weight!
Any thoughts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (wYseH)
That's the tradeoff. Weight means a more comfortable shooting experience and a more painful hiking experience.
If you're going to go hunting with it, you want a lighter one. If it's a range toy, the weight will be welcome.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:33 PM (xJa6I)
348
...The yellow one I had in my right pocket at the TxMoMe and a black one for work. When did they discontinue them, Jim?
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (qBNEP)
I put that model number into Bing and then into their website.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (qBNEP)
I put that model number into Bing and then into their website.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 09:33 PM (QzJWU)
349
A word of advice. If anybody is inclined to buy an AR "pistol" used, and the owner says he built it, for Heaven's sake make sure it started out as a pistol lower. Probably a good way for something to snowball into something serious if it started out as a rifle lower.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 02, 2019 09:33 PM (iWluy)
350
339 Okay....I have a general question for you maniacs.
I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot of weight!
Any thoughts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (wYseH)
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I'd say get the one you like the looks of best. You're not going to be holding and sighting it for really long periods of time, I wouldn't think.
I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot of weight!
Any thoughts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:31 PM (wYseH)
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I'd say get the one you like the looks of best. You're not going to be holding and sighting it for really long periods of time, I wouldn't think.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:34 PM (MVjcR)
351
Unless it's a government building where I'd have to go thru a metal detector, I ignore all the time.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (j3ReE)
In NC, if a private business puts up a no concealed weapons sign, I take my business elsewhere. I view it as a private property issue. Your property, you're free to keep my S and W out. But I'll go with my pistol. No real choice on statutory exclusions.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2019 07:32 PM (j3ReE)
In NC, if a private business puts up a no concealed weapons sign, I take my business elsewhere. I view it as a private property issue. Your property, you're free to keep my S and W out. But I'll go with my pistol. No real choice on statutory exclusions.
Posted by: Agitator at June 02, 2019 09:35 PM (m9DnX)
352
CB,
Turns out it was a bit snappy for my tastes. I think Hubbie is looking to sell his M&P shield and his Kimber in .45acp, I believe it's a commander. Beautiful piece.
Turns out it was a bit snappy for my tastes. I think Hubbie is looking to sell his M&P shield and his Kimber in .45acp, I believe it's a commander. Beautiful piece.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:35 PM (UUBmN)
353
The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel,
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You've just answered the question. Buy it first and you won't have to buy another one later.
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You've just answered the question. Buy it first and you won't have to buy another one later.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 09:36 PM (lPsvG)
354
Then there's the Opinels and the Nontrons...
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 02, 2019 09:36 PM (k3g2v)
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:37 PM (MVjcR)
356
If it's a range toy, the weight will be welcome.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:33 PM (xJa6I)
You know, it's a .357 magnum, so the recoil isn't a big deal. I am just wondering about holding an 8.68lb. rifle compared to the lighter steel version. I can shoot an M1 with no problem, so I am probably overthinking this.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:33 PM (xJa6I)
You know, it's a .357 magnum, so the recoil isn't a big deal. I am just wondering about holding an 8.68lb. rifle compared to the lighter steel version. I can shoot an M1 with no problem, so I am probably overthinking this.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:37 PM (wYseH)
357
CBD @ 346- Well the yellow goes good with jeans, and the black goes good with that sexy uniform I wear at work, and matches up very well with a G17. Just kidding, all you can see is the clip on the outside of the pocket. But you knew that already. Heh.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (qBNEP)
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CBD, if you're considering *not* going with the purdy brass - and it is, I noted above that a guy at the match today put his Henry lever right next to my own, pretty, brass receiver Uberti Yellow Boy repro - consider other than Henry.
Why?
King's Improvement [loading gate, vs. tube feed at the muzzle]. Was heading toward a Henry [brass] my own self, but a fellow range officer with one convinced me to look at loading-gate versions instead.
Did I just hear Henry now has a loading gate rifle? Anyway, consider that issue, if you haven't already. Guess that means Rossi, Uberti, Winchester [Miroku].
Why?
King's Improvement [loading gate, vs. tube feed at the muzzle]. Was heading toward a Henry [brass] my own self, but a fellow range officer with one convinced me to look at loading-gate versions instead.
Did I just hear Henry now has a loading gate rifle? Anyway, consider that issue, if you haven't already. Guess that means Rossi, Uberti, Winchester [Miroku].
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (QDnY+)
359
I'd say get the one you like the looks of best.
You're not going to be holding and sighting it for really long periods
of time, I wouldn't think.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:34 PM (MVjcR)
Good point. It will be a plinking/self defense/wow...this is FUN! gun.
And if I need to shoot something way out there, I'll just call you.
You're not going to be holding and sighting it for really long periods
of time, I wouldn't think.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:34 PM (MVjcR)
Good point. It will be a plinking/self defense/wow...this is FUN! gun.
And if I need to shoot something way out there, I'll just call you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (wYseH)
360
I'm very pro-Opinel, but I'm an old man with old man tastes, and I like the elegant little folders. It doesn't hurt that they take and hold an edge like crazy.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (lPsvG)
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Mark, thanks!
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 02, 2019 09:39 PM (miE9U)
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And if I need to shoot something way out there, I'll just call you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (wYseH)
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Always happy to be of service!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (wYseH)
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Always happy to be of service!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:40 PM (MVjcR)
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Did I just hear Henry now has a loading gate rifle?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (QDnY+)
I think you are correct, but it is a 30-30 or something in a rifle caliber, so I can't fire it at my gun club.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (QDnY+)
I think you are correct, but it is a 30-30 or something in a rifle caliber, so I can't fire it at my gun club.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (wYseH)
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CBD & Weasel,
Y'all coming to the TxMoMe this year?
Y'all coming to the TxMoMe this year?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (UUBmN)
365
As always, thanks for the gubs. Just thinking this evening how much I miss my FAL.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (EgshT)
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364 CBD & Weasel,
Y'all coming to the TxMoMe this year?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (UUBmN)
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I'll be there!
Y'all coming to the TxMoMe this year?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (UUBmN)
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I'll be there!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (MVjcR)
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Okay....I have a general question for you maniacs.
I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot of weight!
Any thoughts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I have the steel one. Whichever you get, get the large lever loop. Your hand will thank you. Winter glove friendly. If you are hunting hog, go with the heavier model to absorb the recoil from the 180 gr bullets.
I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot of weight!
Any thoughts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I have the steel one. Whichever you get, get the large lever loop. Your hand will thank you. Winter glove friendly. If you are hunting hog, go with the heavier model to absorb the recoil from the 180 gr bullets.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (pcp3j)
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360 Opinels are wonderful. I couldn't find a carbon blade knife for the kitchen (Carbon blades seem to be easier for me to sharpen with my poor skills). I have 2 number eights, one in the kitchen drawer and another in my gear kit.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (iWluy)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:42 PM (UUBmN)
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I'll be in and out from here. Y'all have fun and thanks as always, weasel.
Posted by: Robbie Ray Moron - Mitch are you fo' real?!! at June 02, 2019 09:43 PM (lPsvG)
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Okey-Dokey. Before the ONT comes along and kicks us to the curb, I just want to thank you all again for stopping by and making this a good time. I truly appreciate it!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:43 PM (MVjcR)
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CBD, agree with others here - if you want the pretty Henry, get it. Weight not an issue for range or other uses you indicate. Especially as you noted the M-1 is not a problem.
Not to keep stirring the pot, but if pistol caliber is a must, how about 45 Colt, or 44 Mag? Nice, big hole in the end of that pretty octagonal barrel .....
Not to keep stirring the pot, but if pistol caliber is a must, how about 45 Colt, or 44 Mag? Nice, big hole in the end of that pretty octagonal barrel .....
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:43 PM (QDnY+)
373
Weasel - Thanks again for another great gub thread.
Posted by: Spankmeister at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (dn8lZ)
374
No, thank YOU for doing this thread!
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (UUBmN)
375
Enjoyed it as always, Weasel!!
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (d+hd5)
376
Thank YOU Weasel and to Ace and whoever else indulges us here.
This is a good site, a good thread
This is a good site, a good thread
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (QDnY+)
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You're very welcome, Robby Ray Moron!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (MVjcR)
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Y'all coming to the TxMoMe this year?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (UUBmN)
Only if WeaselWoman is frying bacon.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (UUBmN)
Only if WeaselWoman is frying bacon.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (wYseH)
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Opinels are wonderful. I couldn't find a carbon blade knife for the kitchen (Carbon blades seem to be easier for me to sharpen with my poor skills). I have 2 number eights, one in the kitchen drawer and another in my gear kit.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (iWluy)
Honing a broken-in Opinel carbon #8 with a good patina on a stone is therapeutic.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (iWluy)
Honing a broken-in Opinel carbon #8 with a good patina on a stone is therapeutic.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (t+qrx)
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Thanks, Weasel. G'night ya bunch of bitter, clinging, gun nuts.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (qc+VF)
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My pleasure rhomboid. Thank you!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (MVjcR)
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Okey-Dokey. Before the ONT comes along and kicks us to the curb, I just want to thank you all again for stopping by and making this a good time. I truly appreciate it!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:43 PM (MVjcR)
Thank you, Weasel! Have a great week, everyone.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:43 PM (MVjcR)
Thank you, Weasel! Have a great week, everyone.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (t+qrx)
384
Thank you for the thread. Always interesting.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (w+EKT)
385
You're welcome BtB. See you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (MVjcR)
386
And I'll repeat, for the yuks and public service, any puzzled by the "gub" thing, get thee to UToob and search for "I have a gun/Woody Allen" scene from his movie Take the Money and Run. It's good.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (QDnY+)
387
Hey, how 'bout that Amash kid!1!!!
Posted by: Glenn Beck at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (Jj+59)
388
Did I just hear Henry now has a loading gate rifle?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (QDnY+)
I think you are correct, but it is a 30-30 or something in a rifle caliber, so I can't fire it at my gun club.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
30-30, 38-55 & 35 Rem.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2019 09:38 PM (QDnY+)
I think you are correct, but it is a 30-30 or something in a rifle caliber, so I can't fire it at my gun club.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
30-30, 38-55 & 35 Rem.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (pcp3j)
389
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (t+qrx)
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Thanks pal, and you're welcome!
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Thanks pal, and you're welcome!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:47 PM (MVjcR)
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376
Thank YOU Weasel and to Ace and whoever else indulges us here.
This is a good site, a good thread
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (xJa6I)
double down on this!
Thank YOU Weasel and to Ace and whoever else indulges us here.
This is a good site, a good thread
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (xJa6I)
double down on this!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 02, 2019 09:47 PM (sy5kK)
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I'll be there!
Posted by: Weasel
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Yay!
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:42 PM (UUBmN)
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Aw, shucks! That reminds me I need to book the flights.
Posted by: Weasel
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Yay!
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:42 PM (UUBmN)
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Aw, shucks! That reminds me I need to book the flights.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:48 PM (MVjcR)
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And that new Henry in Brass side gate in 30-30 is gorgeous. It also tube loads/unloads.
Best of both worlds.
Best of both worlds.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2019 09:48 PM (pcp3j)
393
Enjoyed it, Weasel and company. Time to clock out for today. See you tomorrow.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:49 PM (qBNEP)
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Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 02, 2019 09:41 PM (EgshT)
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Hope to see you next week Notorious BFD
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Hope to see you next week Notorious BFD
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:49 PM (MVjcR)
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Barring the Zombie Apocalypse, I shall be here!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 02, 2019 09:50 PM (EgshT)
396
373 Weasel - Thanks again for another great gub thread.
Posted by: Spankmeister at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (dn8lZ)
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Thanks and you're welcome!
Posted by: Spankmeister at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (dn8lZ)
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Thanks and you're welcome!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:50 PM (MVjcR)
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374 No, thank YOU for doing this thread!
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (UUBmN)
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It's absolutely my pleasure. Thanks
Posted by: lin-duh at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (UUBmN)
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It's absolutely my pleasure. Thanks
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:51 PM (MVjcR)
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Most of us have populated different Gun Forums, in one form or another over the years.
This one, while not a classic "forum"....is where ya can relax, talk guns, have fun, and not have it all be polluted by a bunch of overly nit-picking perfectionists.
Glocks and S&W wheelguns living together, it's the end of the world as we know it!
Thanks Weasel, for such a damn good job with all things shooty.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
This one, while not a classic "forum"....is where ya can relax, talk guns, have fun, and not have it all be polluted by a bunch of overly nit-picking perfectionists.
Glocks and S&W wheelguns living together, it's the end of the world as we know it!
Thanks Weasel, for such a damn good job with all things shooty.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 09:52 PM (QzJWU)
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Enjoyed it as always, Weasel!!
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (d+hd5)
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Looking forward to seeing you in October and doing some shooting!
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (d+hd5)
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Looking forward to seeing you in October and doing some shooting!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:52 PM (MVjcR)
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Thank YOU Weasel and to Ace and whoever else indulges us here.
This is a good site, a good thread
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (xJa6I)
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Appreciate that, MAE!
This is a good site, a good thread
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 02, 2019 09:45 PM (xJa6I)
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Appreciate that, MAE!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:53 PM (MVjcR)
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Enjoyed it as always, Weasel!!
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (d+hd5)
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Looking forward to seeing you in October and doing some shooting!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:52 PM (MVjcR)
Excited to see you and the Mrs. again!! And shooting!!!
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:44 PM (d+hd5)
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Looking forward to seeing you in October and doing some shooting!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:52 PM (MVjcR)
Excited to see you and the Mrs. again!! And shooting!!!
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 02, 2019 09:53 PM (d+hd5)
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393 Enjoyed it, Weasel and company. Time to clock out for today. See you tomorrow.
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:49 PM (qBNEP)
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Thanks and see you tomorrow!
Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2019 09:49 PM (qBNEP)
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Thanks and see you tomorrow!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:54 PM (MVjcR)
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Guys - yup. Civilized, friendly gun discussions. And on the internet, no less...
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 02, 2019 09:55 PM (k3g2v)
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Thanks for the post, comments and, again, for the archive!
Posted by: stonecutter at June 02, 2019 09:55 PM (Bfr22)
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Thanks Weasel, for such a damn good job with all things shooty.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 09:52 PM (QzJWU)
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Thanks amigo!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2019 09:52 PM (QzJWU)
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Thanks amigo!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:55 PM (MVjcR)
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>>>>I want a Henry lever action in .357 magnum, but I am agonizing over
which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal
barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot
of weight!
Any thoughts?<<<
The brass and silver are pretty. I guess the answer is about utility. Is this rifle going to ride next to you everyday in your truck? Is it going to be like reaching for the stick shift? Actually, none of that matters, get the gorgeous one!
which one. The brass framed one is gorgeous, with that awesome octagonal
barrel, but about 1.5 lbs. heavier than the steel version. That's a lot
of weight!
Any thoughts?<<<
The brass and silver are pretty. I guess the answer is about utility. Is this rifle going to ride next to you everyday in your truck? Is it going to be like reaching for the stick shift? Actually, none of that matters, get the gorgeous one!
Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2019 09:57 PM (LuPts)
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384 Thank you for the thread. Always interesting.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (w+EKT)
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Thanks Braenyard! You're very welcome!
Posted by: Braenyard at June 02, 2019 09:46 PM (w+EKT)
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Thanks Braenyard! You're very welcome!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:58 PM (MVjcR)
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Thanks for the post, comments and, again, for the archive!
Posted by: stonecutter at June 02, 2019 09:55 PM (Bfr22)
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My pleasure. One of these days I'll update the archive to include descriptions.
Posted by: stonecutter at June 02, 2019 09:55 PM (Bfr22)
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My pleasure. One of these days I'll update the archive to include descriptions.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 09:59 PM (MVjcR)
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ONT is up. Goodnight!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2019 10:02 PM (MVjcR)
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AR 10's ? I have three 20" Palmettos. I absolutely love them. They're set up with A2 stocks, gogun brakes and varying sized scopes. I don't hunt but for the pure pleasure of shooting they can't be beat. Very accurate.
Posted by: ck at June 02, 2019 10:04 PM (GXRoa)
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I believe you are technically incorrect about the "gun-free" status of the municipal building, but practically correct.
Most cities in Virginia do not have the ability to declare city buildings "gun-free." They do have the power to prohibit city employees from carrying in city buildings. But cities and counties generally cannot prohibit non-employees from carrying in those buildings.
State colleges are exceptions but they are state and not city buildings. I can carry in city and county buildings (except court houses and detention centers).
Virtually everyone in that Virginia Beach city building was a city employee. So, practically, the building was rendered essentially gun-free by prohibiting employees from carrying in the city building. The one "customer" who was shot and killed could have been armed but the odds are against that as there are only about 500,000 CHPs in Virginia with a population of 8.5 million. The odds of him open carrying or having a CHP do not work in our favor.
On the other point, I have carried into locations marked "gun-free" but in my state those signs do not have force of law. I have attracted attention at a local court house when the deputy noticed the key to my pistol locking mechanism on my key ring. But I had just passed through their metal detectors so they new I was not carrying a firearm.
Carry everywhere you can legally carry.
Most cities in Virginia do not have the ability to declare city buildings "gun-free." They do have the power to prohibit city employees from carrying in city buildings. But cities and counties generally cannot prohibit non-employees from carrying in those buildings.
State colleges are exceptions but they are state and not city buildings. I can carry in city and county buildings (except court houses and detention centers).
Virtually everyone in that Virginia Beach city building was a city employee. So, practically, the building was rendered essentially gun-free by prohibiting employees from carrying in the city building. The one "customer" who was shot and killed could have been armed but the odds are against that as there are only about 500,000 CHPs in Virginia with a population of 8.5 million. The odds of him open carrying or having a CHP do not work in our favor.
On the other point, I have carried into locations marked "gun-free" but in my state those signs do not have force of law. I have attracted attention at a local court house when the deputy noticed the key to my pistol locking mechanism on my key ring. But I had just passed through their metal detectors so they new I was not carrying a firearm.
Carry everywhere you can legally carry.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 02, 2019 10:05 PM (+Kpte)
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In other news, still waiting for the Dreyse 1907 to
come back from the shop. Looking forward to seeing what it can do with
the right magazine.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 02, 2019 09:19 PM (cfSRQ)
I have fired one. It was a bit odd.
The guy who owned it said it was like aiming down a canoe
come back from the shop. Looking forward to seeing what it can do with
the right magazine.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at June 02, 2019 09:19 PM (cfSRQ)
I have fired one. It was a bit odd.
The guy who owned it said it was like aiming down a canoe
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2019 10:05 PM (hSQmw)
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A little late but ref customer service.
Yes S&W is excellent.
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Had bad magazines for my Rossi rs22.
One mossberg mag, one rossi mag (they're identical)
Mossberg charged me shipping to replace the mag, Rossi sent me a mag at no charge.
Yes S&W is excellent.
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Had bad magazines for my Rossi rs22.
One mossberg mag, one rossi mag (they're identical)
Mossberg charged me shipping to replace the mag, Rossi sent me a mag at no charge.
Posted by: ArthurK at June 02, 2019 10:59 PM (AHu5O)
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Late with this, but great thread, as usual, weasel.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 02, 2019 11:16 PM (WEBkv)
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Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 02, 2019 10:05 PM (+Kpte)
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Point taken - thanks for the clarification WarEagle82.
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Point taken - thanks for the clarification WarEagle82.
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John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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