Hate Crimes Are Skyrocketing in NYC and the Media, For Some Reason, are Subdued to the Point of Silence

The reason is simple: The victims are Jews, who the left now considers to be near or at the bottom of the "Progressive Stack" and not worthy of defending from unprovoked street attacks, and the perpetrators are by blacks and Hispanics, who are at or near the top of the Progressive Stack and therefore cannot be criticized, even if they're knocking out a minority group for no reason except that they're Jews.

David Marcus of The Federalist explains, and admits he's shied away from discussing this plainly himself (as many of us have):

Imagine that members of a religious minority were being frequently physically assaulted in America’s largest city at alarming rates. Imagine if members of that minority were being cold-cocked or spit on randomly for doing nothing more than being who they are and dressing how they dress. Imagine what a powerful and important story this would be to our country, how mobilized the media and government would be to stop it. But what if I told you that this is happening in New York City right now, and nobody seems to care very much? How can this be? I'll explain it.

Orthodox Jews in New York City, specifically in Brooklyn, have experienced alarming rates of physical assault over the past year. The New York Police Department says that hate crimes in the city are up 67 percent this year. Of those, a whopping 80 percent have been anti-Semitic hate crimes. Just this week an Orthodox Jew just walking down the street was attacked from behind, punched in the head by an attacker who then ran away. In another incident this week, an Orthodox Jew was attacked by a group of men, one of whom shouted "You (expletive) Jew."


This is an all too familiar story in Brooklyn these days, and there is a reason it isn’t being treated as a crisis by our media or government. That reason is that many if not most of the assailants are black or Hispanic men. In an article in The New York Times last October that was careful to point out, although without much evidence, that people of all descriptions are committing acts of anti-Semitism, Ginia Bellafante writes (emphasis mine), "In fact, it is the varied backgrounds of people who commit hate crimes in the city that make combating and talking about anti-Semitism in New York much harder."

We should be clear about what this means. It means that if these assaults were being committed by white men in hoods or MAGA hats, it would not be "hard to talk about." It would be a clear-cut case of bigotry that needs to be fought with every tool in our arsenal. Instead, journalists are wringing their hands about intersectionality, and careful not to indulge the narrative that these physical attacks are coming from blacks and Hispanics in bordering neighborhoods, even though that narrative is absolutely true.

I know this because I have done it myself. Back in February I wrote about these attacks and I wrote some things that I now regret and want to apologize to the Orthodox community for. I wrote that Orthodox Jews are a "strange set of neighbors," and their insular ways lead to tension in communities. In retrospect, and through some Orthodox Jews who reached out to me, I see that this was not acceptable, that in fact, I was in some way blaming these Jews for their own assaults.

Just as bad, I was making excuses for these attackers, trying to a find a far more nuanced take than I ever would if the assailants were white men. Even as someone who writes often about race double standards in the media, I fell straight into the trap. I found it "hard to talk about" without placing some blame on both sides.

The New Rules say we have to bust out our Progressive Stack Slide-Rules now to determine which hate attacks are actually hate-hate attacks and which hate attacks are just Desperate Cries for Justice from an Oppressed, and Yet Hateful, Minority.

But if it's a white guy, yeah, that's Real Hate.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:45 PM




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1 not first.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 13, 2019 04:45 PM (JUOKG)

2 The important question: Did I beat flounder this time?

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at May 13, 2019 04:46 PM (qC1Sy)

3 I hate hate crimes.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 13, 2019 04:46 PM (sy5kK)

4 if only there was some way to identify these yutes of unknown origin...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 13, 2019 04:46 PM (8D42x)

5 Actually, I think it's less about "it's OK to hate white Jews" and more about "Our Muslim Masters Tell Us We Must Hate White Jews, So We Do."

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at May 13, 2019 04:47 PM (sktRI)

6 And the Democrats approve.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Party of One! Personalized Identity Group Kits Now at The Outrage Outlet! at May 13, 2019 04:47 PM (0QYMt)

7 "Orthodox Jews in New York City, specifically in Brooklyn, have
experienced alarming rates of physical assault over the past year."

I used to drive a truck back ion the 00's and spent many a very long day in Brooklyn. Hassidic Jews all over the place down there and one day I saw them carrying baseball bats. I knew something was up.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 13, 2019 04:47 PM (JUOKG)

8 Leftist Blacks hate Jews. That's it, and when they feel free to express it publicly because there will be no cost to doing so, these attacks are what happen. That's what we have such a hard time saying.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2019 04:47 PM (Kpl3J)

9
Jewish Defense League must rise again.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:47 PM (zBaqJ)

10 And what the hell is hate speech?


It's speech.


If you don't know the azzholes because they can't speak up, that's when it gets dangerous.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 13, 2019 04:47 PM (sy5kK)

11 But I was told a "noodigieg" and this is about our good Moslem friends fitting into (North) American culture.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 13, 2019 04:48 PM (Dh1wo)

12 Attacks on Jews increasing: Canary in the coal mine?

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at May 13, 2019 04:48 PM (qC1Sy)

13 7 I knew something was up.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 13, 2019 04:47 PM (JUOKG)


Kosher dog day at Yankee Stadium?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:48 PM (zBaqJ)

14 Read the content.

Posted by: Max Power at May 13, 2019 04:49 PM (q177U)

15 In fact, it is the varied backgrounds of people who commit hate crimes"

As long as they're neither white nor male, it's OK.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 13, 2019 04:49 PM (6qErC)

16 The Democrats are going to play Highlander with their factions. Jews are out.

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2019 04:49 PM (jyVW0)

17 The worst part is that Leftist Jews will not say a word about their oppressors, because their Political Beliefs are more important to them than the threat of getting beaten daily.

And pointing out that it's their own supposed allies who are the ones who hate them most of all might damage their political standing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2019 04:49 PM (Kpl3J)

18 I'm not a fan of David Marcus but is dead right here in this article.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:49 PM (zBaqJ)

19 I do believe if I saw someone spitting on a Jew or bullying them (and I work with a couple, one is Orthodox), I do believe I'd knock the spitter on their ass.

That's a cause worth some ruckus.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 04:50 PM (bcbK8)

20 good on you, Ace.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2019 04:50 PM (d7Ww2)

21 Why would Hispanics attack jews? And why aren't muslims mentioned?

Posted by: Max Power at May 13, 2019 04:50 PM (q177U)

22 Ah, I anticipate the lefties will go with the nuanced She Shouldn't Have Worn That Dress explanation.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 13, 2019 04:50 PM (RD7QR)

23 Wait, haven't we been told that non-white people can't be racist or bigoted?

Posted by: aelfheld at May 13, 2019 04:50 PM (IxDhF)

24 Don't go to Black Twitter.

Everyone in Tan-a-hesi Coates.

Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (OE84+)

25 The media controls the whether machines.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - black slaves invented cooking at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (07se2)

26 Real hate is like obscenity...
you know it when you see it.

Posted by: McCool at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (lWCRE)

27 Reached out... with a fistful of Benjamins I bet!!

Posted by: rep. ilhan omar at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (Dh1wo)

28 Funny how Al Sharpton has been silent.

Bastard

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (zBaqJ)

29 There are different categories of Jews, and they rank very differently in the Progressive hierarchy. We'd be hearing more about these attacks if the victims were liberal, Reform, upper-class Jews. It's only Orthodox and traditionalist Jews who rank below blacks and Latinos.

Posted by: CPK at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (2eoAO)

30 I'm sorry but I don't quite understand why Marcus was reluctant to write about this.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (aCNZ6)

31 11 But I was told a "noodigieg" and this is about our good Moslem friends fitting into (North) American culture.


Not particular to Moslems

but mostly Blacks

and look, honestly, this is a thing for all city dwellers - but of course it will be worse for the Hasids. I'd imagine if Amish people walked around Philly the yoots would have some fun with them, too.

which is not to say there's not anti-Semitism there, there probably is in some cases. but some it's just "look at that weirdly dressed person let's attack him for fun"

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (Rarvo)

32 24 Don't go to Black Twitter.

Everyone in Tan-a-hesi Coates.
Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (OE84+)

Camelhair coats look better

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (bcbK8)

33 11 But I was told a "noodigieg" and this is about our good Moslem friends fitting into (North) American culture."

But it isn't Moslem's doing it - unless you're going to include Black Muslims (Farrahkhan), who's beliefs have about as much to do with the Arabic Muslims as those of the Christian Scientists have to do with Christianity.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (Kpl3J)

34 22 Ah, I anticipate the lefties will go with the nuanced She Shouldn't Have Worn That Dress explanation.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 13, 2019 04:50 PM (RD7QR)


#NoSexySheitls!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (zBaqJ)

35 You know who else hated the joos?


Shut up? Its different this time.

Posted by: leftist everywhere! at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (0OmEj)

36 I once was lost but now I'm flound.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (Dh1wo)

37 Wait, haven't we been told that non-white people can't be racist or bigoted?

And they aren't if you never hear about it!

Posted by: The MFM at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (jyVW0)

38 >>>The media controls the whether machines.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - black slaves invented cooking at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (07se2)

Is that...? Did you just intentionally...?

Posted by: Max Power at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (q177U)

39 But hey, more Islam is the solution, right?

Posted by: Hikaru at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (fNu7U)

40 9 Jewish Defense League must rise again.
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Yeah, whatever happened to the JDL?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (hjaPQ)

41 31 I'm sorry but I don't quite understand why Marcus was reluctant to write about this.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (aCNZ6)

Because his wife's Bull tells him not to make eye contact with anyone and it carries over into his personal life.

Or he's racist. Take your pick.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (bcbK8)

42 I have come to believe that a lot of Jews simply like being persecuted (though as a whole -- not individually on the street). It's what they know. I guess it makes them feel closer to God. God knows I can't think of any other reason so many would continue to pull the lever for Democrat-Communists.

Posted by: Fake ... Everything at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (4Eo4+)

43 Al Sharpton is most grateful that our media is not asking him any uncomfortable questions about his past..

Posted by: McCool at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (lWCRE)

44 The same shitheads hate us scot-irish hillbilly, rednecks. However, they tend to realize that spitting on us is a good way to get shot.

Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (PgnX8)

45 I'm surprised the MFM isn't blaming this on literally-Hitler.

Posted by: ShainS -- Born Again Easter Worshipper at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (mwX6k)

46 Jewish Defense League must rise again. "

They did good in the early 70's. Kept pressure on the idiotic groups in NYC...

Their blocking the Black Panthers was epic.

And yes, despite my rather poor efforts at being a religious person, I too get riled up at the idea of Jews being attacked.

It's not right. Period.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (6qErC)

47 39 But hey, more Islam is the solution, right?
Posted by: Hikaru at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (fNu7U)


A final one to be sure...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (zBaqJ)

48 It's like Jews are the barometric pressure gauge for the Left going full on fascist.

Leftards seem to want street violence and civil/racial war.

They are going to be very sorry when they get what they want.

Posted by: Naturalfake at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (S+Ct8)

49
The reason is simple: The victims are Jews, who the left now considers to be near or at the bottom of the "Progressive Stack" and not worthy of defending from unprovoked street attacks,


Quit whining and give us more money.

Posted by: The DNC at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (TAmPV)

50 Where do women fit in?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (1p/JV)

Based on the push to insure no XX person ever wins a sporting contest again, as well as yesterday's cookie commercial (heavily and repeatedly defended by the company), I say *they don't*.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (uquGJ)

51 Is it Islam > Gays > Hispanics > Blacks > Jews?


Where do women fit in?

---

Well, you have to factor in race with women.

So... a different chart.

Muslim Women> Lesbians> Hispanic Women> Black Women> Jewish Women> White Women

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (sktRI)

52 But I was told a "noodigieg" and this is about our good Moslem friends fitting into (North) American culture.

Sorry, I was just trying to lighten things up and Make Ace Gay Again.

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2019 04:54 PM (jyVW0)

53 43 Al Sharpton is most grateful that our media is not asking him any uncomfortable questions about his past..
Posted by: McCool at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (lWCRE)


Hell, every Democrat candidate trucks up to Sylivan's must kiss his sewer-lid medallion.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:54 PM (zBaqJ)

54 Of course David Marcus would shy away from it. He's a NeverTrump Cuck. His articles make me think he's eagerly working on "The Conservative Case to Elect Joe Biden."

Posted by: buzzion at May 13, 2019 04:54 PM (WaxcS)

55 Because his wife's Bull tells him not to make eye contact with anyone and it carries over into his personal life.


Or he's racist. Take your pick.
--


I think it can be both.

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at May 13, 2019 04:54 PM (sktRI)

56 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at May 13, 2019 04:54 PM (IXZGh)

57 Do Jews care when non-Jewish white people get attacked by feral diversity?

I feel like I don't see that same level of "Skokie NEVER AGAIN we must do something!" anxiety when whites get attacked.

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 13, 2019 04:54 PM (xFkiy)

58 The same shitheads hate us scot-irish hillbilly,
rednecks. However, they tend to realize that spitting on us is a good
way to get shot.






Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM

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Hey now! Us pasty Appalachian Scots/Irish need to stick together.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (JUOKG)

59 45 I'm surprised the MFM isn't blaming this on literally-Hitler.

Posted by: ShainS -- Born Again Easter Worshipper at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (mwX6k)

Because this time Literally Hitler has a black face. His name is Louis Farrakhan, and he was talking openly about the need to Exterminate the Satanic Jews just last week.

And that is not an exaggeration.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (Kpl3J)

60 Hey decommio mentioned it..even though it is mostly black on jew crime, decommio is blaming white nationalilsts and PDT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (FwN37)

61 Posted by: Fake ... Everything at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (4Eo4+)

And you are a fucking idiot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (wYseH)

62 (sktRI)

52
But I was told a "noodigieg" and this is about our good Moslem friends fitting into (North) American culture.

Question - is that pronounced Noodi-Guy? or Nooda-Guy?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (37IEG)

63 yeah I figured this thread would draw anti-semites

sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (FwN37)

64 46 Jewish Defense League must rise again. "

They did good in the early 70's. Kept pressure on the idiotic groups in NYC...

Their blocking the Black Panthers was epic.

And yes, despite my rather poor efforts at being a religious person, I too get riled up at the idea of Jews being attacked.

It's not right. Period.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 13, 2019 04:53 PM (6qErC)



Rabbi Meir Kahane, the JDL's founder was assassinated by what is best described as a proto-Al Qaeda operative in 1990. That was an opening salvo in what culminated in 9/11/01.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (zBaqJ)

65 Is it Islam > Gays > Hispanics > Blacks > Jews?

Where do women fit in?


Women are at the top of all this pile. Well, shrieking crones, to be more precise. And, you're right- blacks will eventually be next.

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (Ibwur)

66
Hey now! Us pasty Appalachian Scots/Irish need to stick together.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (JUOKG)

Yeah, like they always stuck together anyway.
Ask the Hatfields and McCoys....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (NFEMn)

67 Willowed:

Hilarious. DeBlasio was set to give a speech at about his new Green Deal initiative at Trump Tower in Manhattan today. He was going to speak in front of the building but bad weather forced the event inside the building's lobby area. Trump's staff turned up the music system so DeBlasio had to shout his entire speech becoming horse. What songs you ask? They Blasted "I've got you under my skin" and "Stranger in Paradise". Trump fans heckled the mayor and held signs saying "Worst Mayor Ever", "Trump 2020" and even "LGBT for Trump". Beautifully done!

Posted by: Cheri at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (oiNtH)

68 60 Hey decommio mentioned it..even though it is mostly black on jew crime, decommio is blaming white nationalilsts and PDT
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (FwN37)

Of course. Of course.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (RD7QR)

69 The only way the media would bring this up is if one of these attacks was carried out by some white southern tourist wearing a maga hat. They could then report the story and trot out the statistics of the increasing number of attacks against Jews and the percent change over the past year. By omitting the inconvenient fact that every other one of these attacks in the past year were committed by people of color, they would thus insinuate that all the attacks were perpetrated by white trump supporters.

Posted by: delbag at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (gJAok)

70 Heck, I'm putting it in my name field.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (07se2)

71 No, I'm not. But I'm sorry you feel that way.

Posted by: Fake ... Everything at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (4Eo4+)

72 Isn't this kind of like the backlash that's always about to happen to Muslims after a terror attack?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (aCNZ6)

73 Why would Hispanics attack jews? And why aren't muslims mentioned?
Posted by: Max Power at May 13, 2019 04:50 PM (q177U)

The Mooslimbs in the USA have not achieved the protected status of those in Europe.

The US practitioners of the religion of peace still have to attempt to stay under the radar.

Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (OE84+)

74 #52 That's okay, t-bird, and understandable with Ace wanting to fit into a new bikini or something like that on the pseudo-fast-thread unless I misread that comment.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (Dh1wo)

75 Do the media elites and politicians who are Jewish, look down on the Orthodox community like the way McCain and Mittens look down on Trump supporters ?

I mean, there has to be some psychological deception they pull on themselves to say that they are not like the victims...

Posted by: McCool at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (lWCRE)

76 I went to NYC a month before 9/11. Walking the streets was interesting because you were either bumped into, given a dirty look or ignored completely.

I went to NYC a month after 9/11. It was completely different. Eye contact was met with a nod or a "hi" or some other greeting.

It appears they're back to being assholes again because NYC.

Posted by: Sponge at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (IXZGh)

77 63
yeah I figured this thread would draw anti-semites



sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 04:55 PM (FwN37)
Hoping to find they're being accepted.
I'm thinking, no. But there's probably a Rash-shitta Taliban friendly site out here somewhere.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (37IEG)

78 Rabbi Meir Kahane, the JDL's founder was assassinated by what is best described as a proto-Al Qaeda operative in 1990. That was an opening salvo in what culminated in 9/11/01.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (zBaqJ)

Some guy named Nosir

Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (NFEMn)

79 WaPo: "Jews Wage All-Out Defensive War Against Minorities. ...With Their Faces!"

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (Ibwur)

80 76 It appears they're back to being assholes again because NYC.
Posted by: Sponge at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (IXZGh)

Thank you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (zBaqJ)

81 Hilarious. DeBlasio was set to give a speech at about his new Green Deal initiative at Trump Tower in Manhattan today. He was going to speak in front of the building but bad weather forced the event inside the building's lobby area. Trump's staff turned up the music system so DeBlasio had to shout his entire speech becoming horse. What songs you ask? They Blasted "I've got you under my skin" and "Stranger in Paradise". Trump fans heckled the mayor and held signs saying "Worst Mayor Ever", "Trump 2020" and even "LGBT for Trump". Beautifully done!
Posted by: Cheri at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (oiNtH)


Is there footage of this? Because if true, this is hilarious.

Posted by: Sponge at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (IXZGh)

82 But I'm sorry you feel that way.

Posted by: Fake ... Everything at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (4Eo4+)

Using loser leftist non-apology shit too.

You are an idiot, and an unoriginal one to boot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (wYseH)

83 78 Rabbi Meir Kahane, the JDL's founder was assassinated by what is best described as a proto-Al Qaeda operative in 1990. That was an opening salvo in what culminated in 9/11/01.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (zBaqJ)

Some guy named Nosir
Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (NFEMn)

Brother to Yassir?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (bcbK8)

84 The same shitheads hate us scot-irish hillbilly, rednecks. However, they tend to realize that spitting on us is a good way to get shot.
Posted by: Jean


Bingo!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (F8EBp)

85 Do the media elites and politicians who are Jewish, look down on the Orthodox community like the way McCain and Mittens look down on Trump supporters ?

Posted by: McCool at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (lWCRE)

Very much so.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (uquGJ)

86 went to NYC a month before 9/11. Walking the streets was interesting because you were either bumped into, given a dirty look or ignored completely.

I went to NYC a month after 9/11. It was completely different. Eye contact was met with a nod or a "hi" or some other greeting.

It appears they're back to being assholes again because NYC.
Posted by: Sponge at M




what does that even mean?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 04:59 PM (MTjB1)

87 Thank you.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (zBaqJ)


Sometimes, the truth hurts, I guess.

Posted by: Sponge at May 13, 2019 04:59 PM (IXZGh)

88 Pastor Niemöller sends his regards.

Posted by: just a guy at May 13, 2019 04:59 PM (57plp)

89
Some guy named Nosir
Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (NFEMn)

Brother to Yassir?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (bcbK


Yassir, that's my baby,
Nosir, I don't mean maybe...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:59 PM (zBaqJ)

90 >>>We'd be hearing more about these attacks if the victims were liberal, Reform, upper-class Jews. It's only Orthodox and traditionalist Jews who rank below blacks and Latinos.

NOPE

All Jews rank WAY below black people. The only people lower are non jewish white heterosexual males

Posted by: Max Power at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (q177U)

91 Historians (the non woke variety) will have a field day with this era.

Posted by: IanDeal at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (vgGyZ)

92 The Great White Scotsman: "Hassidic Jews all over the place down there and one day I saw them carrying baseball bats. I knew something was up."

'Matzah Ball with the Mets' Day?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (6eEQ+)

93 what does that even mean?
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 04:59 PM (MTjB1)


When it takes a tragedy of epic proportions to remind you you're human, there may be some issues........maybe.

Posted by: Sponge at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (IXZGh)

94 Concealed Carry should be part of every religion. I think only the Skih's have something like it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (1ISKN)

95 Maybe Al Shaerpton can weigh in on this

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (R6U1S)

96 Yeah, like they always stuck together anyway.
Ask the Hatfields and McCoys...."

That was in house, so to speak. Bring in some outsiders to the hollers and that feud is over real quick like...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (6qErC)

97 Some guy named Nosir
Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (NFEMn)
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Nosir Idontmeanmaybe?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (IFKOp)

98 I am trying very hard to be understanding, but I will never get walking up to and assaulting strangers. Someone's very existence is not a provocation.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (XKZwp)

99 Orthodox Jews are conservative right? Therefore they are triple plus bad.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (FiUMj)

100 94 Concealed Carry should be part of every religion. I think only the Skih's have something like it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (1ISKN)

And that actually and honestly made me strongly consider converting.

But I hate turbans. And I'm pretty bald.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (bcbK8)

101 87 Thank you.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:58 PM (zBaqJ)

Sometimes, the truth hurts, I guess.
Posted by: Sponge at May 13, 2019 04:59 PM (IXZGh)


I think you mistake people minding their own business for being cold/callous/whatever. I find most NYers to be friendly courteous and helpful whenever approached politely.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (zBaqJ)

102 The only people lower are non jewish white heterosexual males

Think of us as Orthodox Americans.

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (CDGwz)

103 Maybe Al Shaerpton can weigh in on this
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (R6U1S)

to busy, he is protesting at Freddy's Fashion Mart

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (FwN37)

104 85 Do the media elites and politicians who are Jewish, look down on the Orthodox community like the way McCain and Mittens look down on Trump supporters ?

Posted by: McCool at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (lWCRE)

Very much so."

And the Orthodox and their allies are some of the strongest supporters of Bibi Netanyahu, and they make up a much larger proportion of the Israeli electorate than they do of the American Electorate. And that's a big reason why so many of the Elite American cultural jews are starting to hate Israel so much.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (Kpl3J)

105 When it takes a tragedy of epic proportions to remind you you're human, there may be some issues........maybe.
Posted by: Sponge at M



you mean when you are willing to cheapen the events of 911 to show you dislike new yorkers, you are a whore that will do anything?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (MTjB1)

106 Law enforcement: how does it work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (HaL55)

107 For a long time, conservatives have been clucking their tongues about European anti-semitism, and insisting its presence meant the continent would fall to the caliphate.

Well, now America is going the same way. The Democrat Party was always much more likely to Corbynize, because American minorities have zero reason to feel the slightest guilt about the Holocaust. And there are a lot more minorities, proportionally, than you find in Europe.

That said... the Orthodox have learned lessons from the Israeli experience. Either they will make aliyah, or get ready to defend themselves. They certainly won't just be victims.

Posted by: trev006 at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (OnEJV)

108 Do the media elites and politicians who are Jewish, look down on the Orthodox community like the way McCain and Mittens look down on Trump supporters ?

--

they self identify as democrat liberal elites.

jew doesn't even enter the picture, unless they're speaking to a jewish audience.


Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (sktRI)

109 The Mooslimbs in the USA have not achieved the protected status of those in Europe.

The US practitioners of the religion of peace still have to attempt to stay under the radar.

Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 04:57 PM (OE84+)

Going only by what I've seen of the Muslims in my area, they are busy making money with their import /export companies, halal shops, bakeries and hookah lounges.
When you see them walking down the streets, you don't have to cross to the other side like when you see blacks and Hispanics. At least not yet.
Hate to put it this way, but this is the way I see it.

The US--unlike Europe-- doesn't put them in ghettos and let them simmer and stoke.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (NFEMn)

110 92 The Great White Scotsman: "Hassidic Jews all over the place down there and one day I saw them carrying baseball bats. I knew something was up."

'Matzah Ball with the Mets' Day?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (6eEQ+)


See me at #13.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (zBaqJ)

111 Progressive Jenga. Mark victim status groups on the pieces. Re-stack randomly when necessary.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (RuIsu)

112 91 Historians (the non woke variety) will have a field day with this era.
Posted by: IanDeal at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (vgGyZ)

___

Except there won't be any non-woke kind since it's impossible to get accepted into academia as a normie.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (FiUMj)

113 Orthodox Jews are conservative right?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (FiUMj)

Modern Orthodox tend to be. Hasidim...less so.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (wYseH)

114 Orthodox Jew ... imo this means .. Jews that actually act like the believe scripture, and try to practice. I'm ignorant of how many "real Jews" are "orthodox" ... I mean Jews for Trump ... they don't have to abide by the law, just abide by "liberty for all". I don't care about the orthodox part, except those seem to be the ones supporting Trump and American style Liberty. So of course they get attacked for being part of the "wrong group".


We Gentiles that believe in American Style liberty get attacked as well, but we wear the red hats to be identified, and Trump supporters don't wear those much in NY or DeepBlue hate zones. Orthodox Jews have more trouble hiding I guess ... or are brave enough to not hide.


War is at hand ...

Posted by: illiniwek at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (Cus5s)

115 Super depressed now that I know our future in a few years is The Manboo.

Posted by: literally serious at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (O3do3)

116 Frankly I don't care about these Democrat urban centers anymore including my own city of Houston.



Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (lmPMy)

117 How about we get PDT to tweet about each of the next dozen of these when they happen? A little exposure with a fire hose?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 13, 2019 05:03 PM (LUWD6)

118 Modern Orthodox tend to be. Hasidim...less so.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (wYseH)

hasidim sometimes go to the highest bidder

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 05:03 PM (FwN37)

119 Orthodox Jews are conservative right? Therefore they are triple plus bad."

Orthodox Jews are so terrible that they even think that Marriage should be between a Man and a Woman. Shocking, I know.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2019 05:03 PM (Kpl3J)

120 113 Orthodox Jews are conservative right?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (FiUMj)

Modern Orthodox tend to be. Hasidim...less so.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (wYseH)


State Rep Dov Hikind, a Dem from the very orthodox Borough Park section of Brooklyn has had it up to here with his party's Joo-hatred.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:03 PM (zBaqJ)

121 Oh, to have 1955 back again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 13, 2019 05:03 PM (elsTe)

122 Hey now! Us pasty Appalachian Scots/Irish need to stick together.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

Agree, the best thing to bring to a gun fight is lots of friends with guns.

Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (PgnX8)

123 Jesus juan is stupid

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (FwN37)

124 Story and video at the link of the DeBlasio debacle today in NYC at Trump Tower.

https://tinyurl.com/y2rm8x4a

Posted by: Cheri at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (oiNtH)

125 122 Hey now! Us pasty Appalachian Scots/Irish need to stick together.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

Agree, the best thing to bring to a gun fight is lots of friends with guns.
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (PgnX


An armored or airborne division or two.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (zBaqJ)

126 hasidim sometimes go to the highest bidder

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 05:03 PM (FwN37)

Yup. They tend to be net consumers of government programs because of their large families, so it makes sense, even though it rankles...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (wYseH)

127 115 Super depressed now that I know our future in a few years is The Manboo.
Posted by: literally serious at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (O3do3)

Is this a form of homelessness? Am I understanding this right?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (RD7QR)

128 you know, ny, especially the local ny1, was early in going to the never announce the race of the suspected criminal thing.

was funny to watch the news guy describe the attack while showing the sketch but not mention their race, even when it was obvious from the sketch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (MTjB1)

129 The closest analogs to Orthodox Jews around here in the turrible ol' raysis South are the communities of Old Order Amish a few miles north in Tennessee. The people there, including law enforcement there, are very protective of the Amish. The fastest way to get yourself put under the jail is to mess with their Amish.

The same doesn't seem to be true with Orthodox Jews in New York.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (hjaPQ)

130 86 New Yorkers tend to be very cautious and insulate themselves from other members of that gigantic non-community . They leave people to fend for themselves if there's a problem, and focus on number one. For all the smack about vibrant diversity, it's a very unfriendly place.

Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (U7k5w)

131 120 113 Orthodox Jews are conservative right?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (FiUMj)

Modern Orthodox tend to be. Hasidim...less so.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (wYseH)


State Rep Dov Hikind, a Dem from the very orthodox Borough Park section of Brooklyn has had it up to here with his party's Joo-hatred.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:03 PM (zBaqJ)

Tell him to come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. And guns. And we share.

He will have to tolerate the Jews for Jesus guys, though. Fair is fair.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (bcbK8)

132 State Rep Dov Hikind, a Dem from the very orthodox Borough Park section of Brooklyn has had it up to here with his party's Joo-hatred.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:03 PM (zBaqJ)

___

So he'll vote for Trump? Change parties? Of course not. He'll yap and yap about it and in the end vote straight "D" and support every other "D".

Talk is cheap. Actions baby, actions.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (FiUMj)

133 Yup. They tend to be net consumers of government programs because of their large families, so it makes sense, even though it rankles...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (wYseH)

I saw a special a few years ago where they took over an upstate NY town and live on government benefits IIRC .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 13, 2019 05:06 PM (lmPMy)

134 128 you know, ny, especially the local ny1, was early in going to the never announce the race of the suspected criminal thing.

was funny to watch the news guy describe the attack while showing the sketch but not mention their race, even when it was obvious from the sketch.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (MTjB1)


"The suspect is 5'11-6' feet tall and heavily shaded with several erasure marks..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:06 PM (zBaqJ)

135 But it isn't Moslem's doing it - unless you're going to include Black Muslims (Farrahkhan), who's beliefs have about as much to do with the Arabic Muslims as those of the Christian Scientists have to do with Christianity.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (Kpl3J)


It's easier to think of the NOI as Black Scientologists led by al-Rahn Hubbard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2019 05:06 PM (y7DUB)

136 Spitting on anyone, anywhere is an offense deserving of broken faces (exceptions, of course being the likes of serial murderers and tyrants).

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 13, 2019 05:06 PM (6eEQ+)

137 42 I have come to believe that a lot of Jews simply like being persecuted (though as a whole -- not individually on the street). It's what they know. I guess it makes them feel closer to God. God knows I can't think of any other reason so many would continue to pull the lever for Democrat-Communists.
Posted by: Fake ... Everything at May 13, 2019 04:52 PM (4Eo4+)



It is maddening to see so many of them continue to be mindlessly Leftist. I think that image of "scary Bible Belt Peoplez" has been drilled into them by the Left media.

However, if a trend can't continue....it won't. Their lying eyes and ears (and bodies) are telling them that it *isn't* the scary Bible Belt peoplez who are attacking them.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 13, 2019 05:06 PM (ujg0T)

138 127 115 Super depressed now that I know our future in a few years is The Manboo.
Posted by: literally serious at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (O3do3)

Is this a form of homelessness? Am I understanding this right?
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (RD7QR)

Yeah, more or less. Seems like a lot of them are self-selecting for this life, lot of them are on the bottom.

But I'll say this: Japanese hobos, teeth aside, are better quality than what we have in Seattle.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:06 PM (bcbK8)

139 So he'll vote for Trump? Change parties? Of course not. He'll yap and yap about it and in the end vote straight "D" and support every other "D".

Talk is cheap. Actions baby, actions.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (FiUMj)

I am pretty sure he supported PDT last time. He usually supports Republicans

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 05:06 PM (FwN37)

140 Just as bad, I was making excuses for these attackers, trying to a find a far more nuanced take than I ever would if the assailants were white men.

Well at least he recognizes his problem, but will it be different next time, or will he have learned nothing?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (39g3+)

141 126: The satmar types I have dealt with place little value on English literacy.

Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (U7k5w)

142 131
He will have to tolerate the Jews for Jesus guys, though. Fair is fair.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (bcbK


I told a friend who is a Jew for Jesus he had to give back his bar mitzvah money and get his foreskin reattached with a rusty stapler.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (zBaqJ)

143 The Orthodox are reliably conservative and it's wrong that they should be victims of anyone.

But let's not pretend that the Orthodox are not perfect little angels.
They can be very abrasive and off-putting, often acting as though people who are not part of their community don't exist. They can be very rude and obnoxious--just like anyone else.
On of the drivers in my company, a black guy, was called a "monkey" by an Orthodox dude for being a couple minutes late.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (NFEMn)

144 I can't get the KY tube open and my mom's boyfriend is coming tonight!

Posted by: Kurt at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (+dcjm)

145 People in NYC got a reputation for being rude when it was being defensive against being accosted. During the Giuliani Bloomberg years the accosting went down, and NYCers became downright freindly to strangers

That's been reversing. Thank you Mayor Bill

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (R6U1S)

146 Everything old is new again. The shame of the Holocaust is wearing off on the Left, the elitists, who were always antisemitic. When an English politician talks about "that shitty little country," he isn't joking. The shit in his soul is showing through. I love Trump for his support for Israel and for the Jews. That by itself is worth my allegiance.

Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019 05:08 PM (qEujL)

147 Why wouldn't the races of the perps we can't mention keep going? Not only do the elitists defend them, they can count on the silence or encouragement from elitist left wing Jews.

After all, elitist left wing Jews don't live in neighborhoods where they might be threatened. Even if they did, the perps would leave them alone once they were informed that their intended victims are #woke and they love them.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 13, 2019 05:08 PM (0Ntuf)

148 13 7 I knew something was up.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 13, 2019 04:47 PM (JUOKG)


Kosher dog day at Yankee Stadium?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:48 PM (zBaqJ)


If they can eliminate an American icon like Kate Smith, Kosher dogs aren't long for Yankee stadium.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 13, 2019 05:08 PM (sy5kK)

149 123 Jesus juan is stupid
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (FwN37)

So is Jesus Jones.

'Right here, Right now' aside.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:08 PM (bcbK8)

150 Whoa there, Jew Media! I don't hate all Jews. Take self-hating Jews, for instance. I love them!

Posted by: Ilhan Omar at May 13, 2019 05:08 PM (FJYfm)

151 124 Story and video at the link of the DeBlasio debacle today in NYC at Trump Tower.

https://tinyurl.com/y2rm8x4a
Posted by: Cheri at May 13, 2019 05:04 PM (oiNtH)

---------------------------

Wow, the weather in NYC in May didn't cooperate?
What a surprise....

And no backup plan other than the lobby of the hotel owned by a person DeBlasio detests.

What a maroon.

DeBlasio should be renamed "DeBacleo."

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (qC1Sy)

152 144 Posted by: Kurt at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (+dcjm)


Which are grossly exaggerated and your justification to persecute and beat them up.

Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (zBaqJ)

153 My understanding is that outside of NYC and it's suburbs, Hasidim are very rare in the US. Regular Orthodox are much more widespread.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (Kpl3J)

154 The satmar types I have dealt with place little value on English literacy.

Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (U7k5w)

They tend to be quite insular, but they do some good work.

I'll take Chabadnicks any day though.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (wYseH)

155 133 kiryas Joel...Satmars

Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (U7k5w)

156 I think leftist Jews have a big disconnect in their minds. They do not connect persecution as a direct result of leftist policies to leftist policies.

To the extent they see persecution happening from certain groups that they wish to avoid stating outright, they likely blame a culture of oppression. They are only acting out because they've been so mistreated by the evil white Republican!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (39g3+)

157 I blame Al Sharpton

Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (dmvIq)

158 was funny to watch the news guy describe the attack while showing the sketch but not mention their race, even when it was obvious from the sketch.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (MTjB1)

"The suspect is 5'11-6' feet tall and heavily shaded with several erasure marks..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:06 PM (zBaqJ)


My favorite is talking heads gravely stating that "police are looking for a man wearing a t-shirt and jeans," yet not mentioning his race.

Because it's tougher to change your attire than your race, I guess. So be on the lookout for a man wearing a t-shirt and jeans.

Oh. OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (Iv8V1)

159 you know, were you ever interested in getting yourself some 80s station wagon, the hasidic hoods in brooklyn are the place to go.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (MTjB1)

160
I told a friend who is a Jew for Jesus he had to give back his bar mitzvah money and get his foreskin reattached with a rusty stapler.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (zBaqJ)
-----------------

Well, as a White Male of a certain age, circumcision was SOP back then.

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (qC1Sy)

161 154 The satmar types I have dealt with place little value on English literacy.

Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (U7k5w)

They tend to be quite insular, but they do some good work.

I'll take Chabadnicks any do though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (wYseH)


My eye-talian friend has done a fair bit of business with Chabad and he has high praise for them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (zBaqJ)

162 Karol Marcowicz writing in the NY post has a related article, "Who will speak up for the besieged Hasidim?" today in the NY Post

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2019 05:11 PM (FSPNP)

163 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (zBaqJ)

Kurt ain't beating up anything except his dick.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 13, 2019 05:11 PM (lmPMy)

164
Jesus juan is stupid
Posted by: Nevergiveup


Did I just hear him blame the "Zionists?"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2019 05:11 PM (aKsyK)

165 >>I find most NYers to be friendly courteous and helpful whenever approached politely.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (zBaqJ)

This is very true, as I remember from my days at Columbia. They are very warm when it comes to helping. But the eye avoidance thing can seem a little disconcerting to country boys like me.

Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019 05:11 PM (qEujL)

166 The closest analogs to Orthodox Jews around here in the turrible ol' raysis South are the communities of Old Order Amish a few miles north in Tennessee. The people there, including law enforcement there, are very protective of the Amish. The fastest way to get yourself put under the jail is to mess with their Amish.

The same doesn't seem to be true with Orthodox Jews in New York.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

Generally the same with the Amish in PA, the rural sheriffs tend to pay close attention to community voter blocs when elections can swing on 500 votes

Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2019 05:11 PM (PgnX8)

167 >>My understanding is that outside of NYC and it's suburbs, Hasidim are very rare in the US. Regular Orthodox are much more widespread.

I met a large group of them when I was working in PR. They came on vacation in a group of about 40, whole families.

There was one girl about my age at the time who was absolutely stunning. Her father never took his eyes off of us while we were talking and made it clear that was as close as I getting.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2019 05:12 PM (/tuJf)

168 154: I have no issues with most Orthodox groups, I lived in Kew Gardens Hills for a year, but the poor educational standards of the Satmars is very unappealing.

Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:12 PM (U7k5w)

169 163 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:09 PM (zBaqJ)

Kurt ain't beating up anything except his dick.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 13, 2019 05:11 PM (lmPMy)


Hard to do since it's perpetually attached to his mother's uvula.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:12 PM (zBaqJ)

170 Hey now! Us pasty Appalachian Scots/Irish need to stick together.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

Agree, the best thing to bring to a gun fight is lots of friends with guns.
Posted by: Jean


Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2019 05:12 PM (F8EBp)

171 157 I blame Al Sharpton
Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (dmvIq)

Usually a safe bet.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 13, 2019 05:12 PM (RD7QR)

172 I find most NYers to be friendly courteous and helpful whenever approached politely.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at M



the default is some sort of resting bitch face / stay the fuck away from me expression. however, once you initiate conversation they are as friendly as anyone anywhere in the U.S.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 05:13 PM (MTjB1)

173 Fun Fact:

According to FBI UCS, The vast overwhelming majority of so-called hate crimes happen in NYC, LA, Chicago and Seattle.


The lowest incidences are in cities in the south and west.

Go figure.

Posted by: John The Savage at May 13, 2019 05:13 PM (uSoLb)

174 There is a very intense but suavely concealed anti-Semitism among elite Progressives. I see it, having relatives in Berkeley.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 13, 2019 05:14 PM (H8QX8)

175 Fun Fact:

According to FBI UCS, The vast overwhelming majority of so-called hate crimes happen in NYC, LA, Chicago and Seattle.


The lowest incidences are in cities in the south and west.

Go figue.
Posted by: John The Savage at M




what is your point?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 05:14 PM (MTjB1)

176 I like how Kurt is here innocently highlighting how the media stokes anti-semitism, while he thinks he's making a point about why the Orthodox are disliked.

Hmm, actually "like" is probably the wrong word.

Posted by: Sporkatus at May 13, 2019 05:14 PM (CGB5H)

177 160
I told a friend who is a Jew for Jesus he had to give back his bar mitzvah money and get his foreskin reattached with a rusty stapler.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (zBaqJ)
-----------------

Well, as a White Male of a certain age, circumcision was SOP back then.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (qC1Sy)

*looks down*
*removes pants*

Can confirm. Foreskin can stay detached. What is this bar mitzvah money you speak of? Any way to get in on that action?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:14 PM (bcbK8)

178 OT The headline in NY TIMES caught my eye. 'They were promised coding jobs in Appalachia, now they say it's a fraud '

Posted by: A dude in MI at May 13, 2019 05:14 PM (OOH1c)

179 When I moved to NYC , the people couldn't be friendlier. Unless being loud and brash occasionally was off-putting to you.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 13, 2019 05:15 PM (lmPMy)

180 Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019 05:11 PM (qEujL)

What the fvck are you looking at!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:15 PM (wYseH)

181 the default is some sort of resting bitch face / stay the fuck away from me expression. however, once you initiate conversation they are as friendly as anyone anywhere in the U.S.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 13, 2019 05:13 PM (MTjB1)

------

I like the NYers in NY well enough - some of the expats can be dicks, but on the whole, they're pretty nice.

But, that said - Coloradans (real ones, from before the flood) are probably the nicest people I've ever met.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2019 05:15 PM (AzW6q)

182 The US--unlike Europe-- doesn't put them in ghettos and let them simmer and stoke.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (NFEMn)

I agree to a point.

How do we get Ilhan Omar and Talib?

Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 05:15 PM (OE84+)

183 what is your point?

We hicks can't be bothered to actually do anything actively unpleasant. Part of that whole being toothless and lazy thing.

Posted by: Sporkatus at May 13, 2019 05:16 PM (CGB5H)

184 172: That's if they respond at all.

Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:16 PM (U7k5w)

185 The refusal to admit that the attackers are primarily from certain groups reminds me of the cat call video (which also took place in New York), which suddenly vanished when people began to note the lack of light-skinned participants.

Posted by: junior at May 13, 2019 05:16 PM (d9ca0)

186 I told a friend who is a Jew for Jesus he had to give back his bar mitzvah money and get his foreskin reattached with a rusty stapler.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (zBaqJ)
-----------------

Well, as a White Male of a certain age, circumcision was SOP back then.
Posted by: blake



Yeah.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2019 05:16 PM (F8EBp)

187 What the fvck are you looking at!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:15 PM (wYseH)

I'm just talking in general about the difference in public manners between city and country folk. Or are you saying, in your calm and detached rational way, that there is no difference?

Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019 05:17 PM (qEujL)

188 @175
My point is that the south and west, per Democrat media narrative are loaded to the gills with retrograde racists and and happen to be Republican leaning but that the vast overwhelming majority of hate crimes committed and located in liberal bastions, per UCS.
So it blows up the narrative.

Posted by: John The Savage at May 13, 2019 05:17 PM (uSoLb)

189 Does drawing attention to this story help evil or good?

If attention helps evil, THEN THIS IS MUH NATIONAL EMERGENCY!

If attention helps good, then THERE ARE SO MANY EMERGENCY NOW maybe report this later.

So simple an NPC could do it.

Posted by: Shogun Pikachu - Keeping Japan SJW free at May 13, 2019 05:17 PM (y81lq)

190 176 I like how Kurt is here innocently highlighting how the media stokes anti-semitism, while he thinks he's making a point about why the Orthodox are disliked.

Hmm, actually "like" is probably the wrong word.
Posted by: Sporkatus at May 13, 2019 05:14 PM (CGB5H)



What BlackOrchid pointed out in #31 bears repeating -- for the hoodrats, just the Orthodox stand out more makes them a target:

"look, honestly, this is a thing for all city dwellers - but of course it will be worse for the Hasids. I'd imagine if Amish people walked around Philly the yoots would have some fun with them, too.

which is not to say there's not anti-Semitism there, there probably is in some cases. but some it's just "look at that weirdly dressed person let's attack him for fun"
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 13, 2019 04:51 PM (Rarvo)"

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 13, 2019 05:17 PM (ujg0T)

191 We hicks can't be bothered to actually do anything actively unpleasant. Part of that whole being toothless and lazy thing.
---
Burning crosses cuts in on my catfishing time.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 13, 2019 05:17 PM (hjaPQ)

192 Well, as a White Male of a certain age, circumcision was SOP back then.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (qC1Sy)

*looks down*
*removes pants*

Can confirm. Foreskin can stay detached. What is this bar mitzvah money you speak of? Any way to get in on that action?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edward


With interest?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2019 05:18 PM (F8EBp)

193 The dems support islam. Thats all you need to know.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 13, 2019 05:18 PM (9Om/r)

194 165
>>I find most NYers to be friendly courteous and helpful whenever approached politely.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:01 PM (zBaqJ)



This is very true, as I remember from my days at Columbia. They are
very warm when it comes to helping. But the eye avoidance thing can seem
a little disconcerting to country boys like me.

Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019

*
*
. . .
The New Yorkers I met on my short visit in the fall of 1998 were not rude, just involved in their own problems. They were perfectly willing to help a stranger if it didn't cost them any money. My hostess and I were on a Third Avenue bus, in the dark and the rain, and she wondered aloud where we should get off for the crosstown bus. A grumpy-looking fellow in one of those English driving caps I saw everywhere spoke up and gave us brief instructions. We thanked him, followed the instructions, and found our bus without trouble.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 13, 2019 05:18 PM (elsTe)

195 better?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 13, 2019 05:18 PM (qN9G0)

196 O/T

Hmm, Fed's ask Judge for another delay in sentencing of Richard Gates saying he's still cooperating on investigations.

Posted by: WisRich at May 13, 2019 05:18 PM (G0vdT)

197 192 Well, as a White Male of a certain age, circumcision was SOP back then.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (qC1Sy)

*looks down*
*removes pants*

Can confirm. Foreskin can stay detached. What is this bar mitzvah money you speak of? Any way to get in on that action?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edward


With interest?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2019 05:18 PM (F8EBp)

Well that would be usury...but I'm persuadable

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:18 PM (bcbK8)

198 I'm just talking in general about the difference in
public manners between city and country folk.

Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019 05:17 PM (qEujL)

And I'm making a joke.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (wYseH)

199 175: The point is that the troglodytes who run their mouth about inclusions are the biggest haters of all, and the rural and Southern people they blame for hatred are not h8ers after all.

Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (U7k5w)

200 Oy.

Michelle Obama says in upcoming book...

after a miscarriage, both of the girls were conceived by IVF.

Just throwing it out there.

Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (OE84+)

201 To be fair, blacks have been attacking hassidic Jews in Brooklyn for a very long time, now. This is nothing new.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (P/i/D)

202 142 131
He will have to tolerate the Jews for Jesus guys, though. Fair is fair.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (bcbK


I told a friend who is a Jew for Jesus he had to give back his bar mitzvah money and get his foreskin reattached with a rusty stapler.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (zBaqJ)

At least he didn't have to date Joy Behar.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (sy5kK)

203 And I'm making a joke.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (wYseH)

Oh, sorry. I'm not as smart as you are and a little slow on recognizing the sarc.

Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019 05:20 PM (qEujL)

204 What BlackOrchid pointed out in #31 bears repeating -- for the hoodrats, just the Orthodox stand out more makes them a target:

Limping Antelopes.

The Asian population in Houston present the same target of opportunity for these thugs. They though will eventually start to fight back.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 13, 2019 05:20 PM (lmPMy)

205 and the rural and Southern people they blame for hatred are not h8ers after all.
Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (U7k5w)

Just leave me the fuck alone.

Liberty.

Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 05:20 PM (OE84+)

206 NYC is a friendly place if you are not wasting people's time.

Never saw anyone in trouble/need lack for help in all the years I lived there.

Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2019 05:20 PM (dmvIq)

207 My favorite is talking heads gravely stating that "police are looking for a man wearing a t-shirt and jeans," yet not mentioning his race.

Because it's tougher to change your attire than your race, I guess. So be on the lookout for a man wearing a t-shirt and jeans.

Oh. OK.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 13, 2019 05:10 PM (Iv8V1)

___

The suspect was last seen wearing jeans, a hoodie and is described as between 5'10 and 6' tall with an average build.

Well that shit that narrows it down to only about 100,000 people. Should be a piece of cake to find him.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:20 PM (FiUMj)

208 202 142 131
He will have to tolerate the Jews for Jesus guys, though. Fair is fair.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM (bcbK


I told a friend who is a Jew for Jesus he had to give back his bar mitzvah money and get his foreskin reattached with a rusty stapler.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:07 PM (zBaqJ)

At least he didn't have to date Joy Behar.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (sy5kK)

Jeez, talk about a hate crime.
Or a hate fuck.
Ick.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:21 PM (bcbK8)

209 200 Oy.

Michelle Obama says in upcoming book...

after a miscarriage, both of the girls were conceived by IVF.

Just throwing it out there.
Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (OE84+)

Well, it's not like Barry was going to do it.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 13, 2019 05:21 PM (RD7QR)

210 >>The New Yorkers I met on my short visit in the fall of 1998 were not rude, just involved in their own problems.

Again, correct. I did not accuse anyone of being rude.

Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019 05:21 PM (qEujL)

211
after a miscarriage, both of the girls were conceived by IVF.

Just throwing it out there.
Posted by: golfman at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (OE84+)

____

Whose sperm was used?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:21 PM (FiUMj)

212 >>The Asian population in Houston present the same target of opportunity for these thugs.


When we would have lunch and be betting on who the next person to be mugged on the street outside the building (Newark) would be, you couldn't get even odds on the Asian Student.

Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2019 05:21 PM (dmvIq)

213 With interest?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2019 05:18 PM (F8EBp)

----------------

Most certainly with interest!

Posted by: cory booker - severe hetero at May 13, 2019 05:22 PM (qC1Sy)

214 The point is that the troglodytes who run their mouth about inclusions are the biggest haters of all, and the rural and Southern people they blame for hatred are not h8ers after all.
Posted by: CN at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (U7k5w)

--------

My grandmother was a Southerner, and was active in the civil rights movement. She traveled a lot and observed that the Northerners, for all their rhetoric, were more racist in practice. IOW - while you had isolated incidents in the South that were extremely egregious and unheard of in the North, the casual day-to-day racism in the North was worse.

She also claimed that while the racism in the South has gradually faded, she thought it had gotten worse up North.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2019 05:22 PM (AzW6q)

215 >>Whose sperm was used?


Glenn Davis fathered the fat one.

Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2019 05:22 PM (dmvIq)

216 Honestly there are probably enough cameras around NYC, That the event and the resulting beat down would be recorded.

War

Posted by: Picric at May 13, 2019 05:23 PM (nonGu)

217 210
>>The New Yorkers I met on my short visit in the fall of 1998 were not rude, just involved in their own problems.



Again, correct. I did not accuse anyone of being rude.

Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019

*
*
. . .

Oh, no, Caliban. That's the standard trope about NYCers repeated ad nauseam by people who've never been there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 13, 2019 05:23 PM (elsTe)

218 Whose sperm was used?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:21 PM (FiUMj)

Michelle's.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:23 PM (wYseH)

219 Well, it's not like Barry was going to do it.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 13, 2019 05:21 PM (RD7QR)
------------------

Even if Barry would have wanted to, would he have wanted to?

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at May 13, 2019 05:23 PM (qC1Sy)

220 the default is some sort of resting bitch face / stay the fuck away from
me expression. however, once you initiate conversation they are as
friendly as anyone anywhere in the U.S.


Once you reach the age of 29 or so, you can spot a homeless grifter coming a block away down here who will hit you up for money. As soon as you see one, you start to put a pretty mean scowl on. Keeps them away, it does.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 13, 2019 05:23 PM (HaL55)

221 202
At least he didn't have to date Joy Behar.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 13, 2019 05:19 PM (sy5kK)


Who is not Jewish. The poor idiot husband is,

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 05:23 PM (zBaqJ)

222 >>Michelle's.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:23 PM (wYseH)


Close her up.

We have a Dildo for a Winner.

Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2019 05:24 PM (dmvIq)

223 That was an opening salvo in what culminated in 9/11/01.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2019 04:56 PM (zBaqJ)

With a stop in 93 for the first WTC bombing. Same guy did the assassination (mysteriously aquitted) went on to be involved in that attack.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at May 13, 2019 05:24 PM (7zQnd)

224 If these attacks were on "Upper West Side Liberals," would get much more media play. But Brooklyn Hasidim? Hell, those guys would've voted for Ted Cruz much less Trump, so everyone in media is like, "Eh, whatevs. Probably had it coming."

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at May 13, 2019 05:24 PM (hdzef)

225 I did not accuse anyone of being rude.


Posted by: Caliban at May 13, 2019

No, you didn't. and in fact you made an accurate observation, which was easy to riff on...

Thus the joke.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:24 PM (wYseH)

226 Nood

Posted by: Jordan61, PNW MoMe Survivor & Awesome Mug Winner! at May 13, 2019 05:24 PM (Ez6QX)

227 That's the standard trope about NYCers repeated ad nauseam by people who've never been there.
=====

Neil Simon - The Out Of Towners.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2019 05:25 PM (MIKMs)

228 Forget it, Jake, it's Hymie Town.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at May 13, 2019 05:25 PM (df+Zi)

229 Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2019 05:21 PM (dmvIq)

Heh. Sounds about right.

The thugs in Houston like to follow Asians from the store or bank and attack them when they get home.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 13, 2019 05:26 PM (lmPMy)

230
Michelle Obama says in upcoming book...
after a miscarriage, both of the girls were conceived by IVF.


Incredibly virile foreigner?

Posted by: The DNC at May 13, 2019 05:26 PM (TAmPV)

231 Moochelle knew where Barry's had been.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 13, 2019 05:27 PM (RuIsu)

232 She also claimed that while the racism in the South has gradually faded, she thought it had gotten worse up North.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2019 05:22 PM (AzW6q)

Smart lady.

I noticed that in the 1980s, and it has gotten even better in the South and even worse in the Northeast and CA.

I'll take race relations as defined by the states below the Mason-Dixon line ANY DAY over how it is conducted by the employees of the NY Times and the Boston Globe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:27 PM (wYseH)

233 227
That's the standard trope about NYCers repeated ad nauseam by people who've never been there.
=====

Neil Simon - The Out Of Towners.


Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2019

*
*
. . .
Or by people who have only seen that movie!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 13, 2019 05:27 PM (elsTe)

234
The dems support islam. Thats all you need to know.


...over America.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 13, 2019 05:28 PM (HaL55)

235 Do the Obama kids look like Ron Brown?

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 13, 2019 05:30 PM (RuIsu)

236 How much of the "rude, I'm not getting involved" reputation of New Yorkers stems from the kinda bogus Kitty Genovese story?

Posted by: Ilhan Omar at May 13, 2019 05:35 PM (FJYfm)

237 How much of the "rude, I'm not getting involved" reputation of New Yorkers stems from the kinda bogus Kitty Genovese story?

It was symbolic. Sometimes people claim something as their rallying cry, but the real issue was elsewhere. Actually that happens all the time.

See also: Drogheda. When cities don't surrender they get burned and citizens get killed. Them's the rules of 17th-century war. The real issue was that Cromwell had killed and was killing many thousands of Irish who weren't in that doomed city.

Drogheda was a McGuffin - and so was Kitty Genovese. In that case the issue was a crime wave in NYC that nobody was talking about much.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2019 05:59 PM (ykYG2)

238 The fascist left has always been anti-Semitic.

See:

Stalin, Joseph

Hitler, Adolf

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 13, 2019 06:08 PM (T09ml)

239 Some guys did something.

Posted by: ilman omar at May 13, 2019 06:12 PM (aXjVw)

240 113 Orthodox Jews are conservative right?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 13, 2019 05:00 PM (FiUMj)

Modern Orthodox tend to be. Hasidim...less so.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2019 05:02 PM (wYseH)

It depends on which Chassidic group. They're all culturally conservative but some of the sects, like that Satmar in New Square, NY, will make deals with politicians and then the group votes en masse for those pols. I think they ended up voting for Hillary when she ran for the Senate. That's pure political horsetrading, not much ideology involved. Most Chabad/Lubavicher Chassidim are politically conservative, it seems to me.

Posted by: Ronnie Schreiber at May 13, 2019 06:28 PM (W8/ca)

241 "131
He will have to tolerate the Jews for Jesus guys, though. Fair is fair.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 13, 2019 05:05 PM "

I can tolerate a lot of people who are wrong and work with them on common ground.

I don't have a problem with Christians preaching to me but Jews For Jesus are intellectually dishonest. They give christological interpretation to elements of Judaism that are traced to the Pharisees. They can't say that the rabbis have put a veil over the Jews' eyes and then turn around and say rabbinic practices are in fact deep with Christian meaning.

Posted by: Ronnie Schreiber at May 13, 2019 06:41 PM (W8/ca)

242 I used to live a neighborhood near Crown Heights, which is ground zero of where most of this takes place. The unspoken truth is that the assaulters are, for the most part, Carribeans.

This group in the 80s and 90s (thanks to a radical shift in our immigration politics) came to think of large swaths of Brooklyn as "theirs" and anyone who did live, or tries to live in the neighborhood is seen as an "interloper" or "gentrifier."

They have also been fed a steady diet of resentment politics for a full generation : from the times of good 'ol Al Sharpton and Mayor Dinkins (remember Crown Heights "riots" /pogroms anyone?) through the Obama years that saw a high-profile legitimization of the worst kind of resentment politics, and today we have unreconstructed socialism making a comeback with the Bernie's, the AOCs etc.

So you have a mix of "traditional" Brooklyn red diaper baby radicalism on racial-grievance steroids and enabled by a generation of lowlife demagogues: all superimposed on a group that is disproportionately poor, uneducated and violent.

And, they share a neighborhood with a very insular, very identifiable group of higher income, higher-education Orthodox, who generally don't make it a secret that they don't hold their other neighbors in very high regard. And frankly I don't blame them. That doesn't excuse the violence of course, but there it is.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 13, 2019 06:51 PM (SqopC)

243 "They can't say that the rabbis have put a veil over the Jews' eyes and then turn around and say rabbinic practices are in fact deep with Christian meaning."

it depends on the practice and on which rabbis. I know just enough of the Mishnah to be annoying, but from that I did notice some Mishnaic comments that ended up in the Gospel. (John Crossan noticed too.) also noticed lots of rabbis arguing with each other.

I imagine a lot depends on the particular J4J guy talking at you, too. sorry if you have run into cranks and tricksters.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2019 06:54 PM (rrPpu)

244 Them Jews vote like shiite...Schumers with schiff for brains that'd sock it to us in the nadler soros style ...

Posted by: I wontsubmit at May 13, 2019 07:59 PM (122Gu)

245 Marcus's article is but a chapter in a much larger story. While crime has, for
the most part, been trending down, and we are talking about a small
minority of predators, interracial crime is, statistically speaking,
black on white, end of story. This is
true in all parts of the country and runs the spectrum of criminal
activity. It's not part of the progressive agenda, so our media has no
interest in the narrative. Murder, rape (the rate of white on black
rape is statistically NS), assault, robbery, the direction flows one way
with respect to race, and the reason is that no one will talk about it,
no one will give voice to it.

Anecdotally, here
is the difference: Twenty-five years ago when three animals murdered
James Byrd in Texas, the first President Bush went to Congress and spoke
out about it. When does any leader, white or black, liberal or
conservative, so much as whisper a mention about a horrific, racially
motivated crime where the perp is black and the victim white? Can you
name a single instance of a black on white murder becoming national
news? Doesn't happen. The reasons for this are obvious. White
conservatives are afraid of being called racists; white Dems know they
can't win without the overwhelming majority of black vote, so they are
afraid of anything that might antagonize blacks; too many blacks still
fall in line behind the likes of Sharpton and Farrakhan, men who have
made a career of race hatred.

Kudos to Dave Marcus for taking this on -- but no one
on the left is concerned about the larger picture of black on white
crime. You
think they give a damn about blacks criminally victimizing Hassidic
Jews? Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Strawberrysboy at May 13, 2019 07:59 PM (c+cy3)

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