Global Cooling..errr...Global Warming...errr...Climate Change! But Mostly Virtue-Signalling, Redistributionist Policies Of The Left

No theme to this other than the ridiculousness of the whole scam.

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Climate Science Violates The Basic Precepts Of Science

Climate science is too primitive to be of any use in making policy. Let it first get its predictions right and become a genuine science.
There are a few rules that real scientists follow, and hiding the data ain't one of them. That alone should disqualify most of the studies done in support of AGW.

Trump Administration Might "Re-Examine" Climate Modeling

"The United States reaffirms its commitment to re-examine comprehensive modeling that best reflects the actual state of climate science in order to inform its policy-making decisions, including comparing actual monitored climate data against the modeled climate trajectories on an on-going basis," says the U.S. portion of the communiqué.
Maybe it's time to re-purpose that 1960s balled, The Times They Are A-Changin'?

Posted by: CBD at 02:15 PM




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1 Climate Change is all bull shit.

Which is why it keeps changing.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 12, 2019 02:17 PM (Z+IKu)

2 THE WORLD ENDED YESTERDAY!

THIS IS A DREAM!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 12, 2019 02:18 PM (oVJmc)

3 Climate Confusion is killing us all!

Posted by: G marks the spot at May 12, 2019 02:19 PM (H6dmW)

4 I'll worry about global warning when French vinters are again demanding tariffs against England's cheap and plentiful wine.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 12, 2019 02:20 PM (yQpMk)

5 All the AGW hype is BS invented by the communists to justify more taxes and more control.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:20 PM (mpXpK)

6 I was born in the 1960s. I guess I was balled then. Umm.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 12, 2019 02:20 PM (GwY6O)

7
*rubs hands*

So, who's up for a Climate Change conference in Tahiti?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:21 PM (X3lUd)

8 Others fetched

Posted by: G marks the spot at May 12, 2019 02:21 PM (H6dmW)

9 There are a few rules that real scientists follow, and hiding the data ain't one of them. That alone should disqualify most of the studies done in support of AGW.

Absolutely right. Submit a paper, and refuse to submit your raw data and data reduction algorithms as supplementary material?

Kiss my ass. MS: REJECTED, out of hand.

Their excuse? People would use that information to discredit their findings.

Wow. If your findings CAN be discredited, they SHOULD be discredited. Scientific research 101.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2019 02:21 PM (qlqmy)

10 7


*rubs hands*



So, who's up for a Climate Change conference in Tahiti?



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:21 PM (X3lUd)

The last AGW conference was in socialist France.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:21 PM (mpXpK)

11
My mortgage gets paid off just as the world is supposed to end.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:22 PM (X3lUd)

12 The climate is changing. It has been changing for 4B years. It will continue changing for another 4B.

Whether I drive an SUV or not will have zero impact on that change.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:22 PM (FiUMj)

13 "The United States reaffirms its commitment to re-examine comprehensive modeling that best reflects the actual state of climate science in order to inform its policy-making decisions, including comparing actual monitored climate data against the modeled climate trajectories on an on-going basis," says the U.S. portion of the communiqué.

PDT - There will be a test. Please show all your work, your final grade will depend on that.

Posted by: tbodie at May 12, 2019 02:23 PM (4RRDi)

14
Supplementary material: Take it from me, because I say so!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:23 PM (X3lUd)

15 This may be your last chance. Vote Cunk2020!

Posted by: Cunk2020 at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (0yz8p)

16 Speaking of weather, and the discussion in the last thread, I bought a small remote weather station for the farm so I can keep track of conditions and rainfall. It will transmit data to a number of different weather websites. I was going to use Weather Underground, but am willing to look at others. Any recommendations?

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)

17 Ugh, they use that song in some stupid commercial for an online college.

Posted by: Jordan61, PNW MoMe Survivor & Awesome Mug Winner! at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (bnHlR)

18 I have moved into the " Sun is taking a crap on us, here comes a mini ice age" camp.
Burn fossil fuels like there's no tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2019 02:25 PM (BbGew)

19 In fairness, if current trends continue, Alabama will catch fire by next January.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 12, 2019 02:25 PM (yQpMk)

20 Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)

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Did you buy a good one, ie expensive or a cheap Walmart type? The cheap ones are useless, they will be inaccurate.

You want ones that can stay in the sun and accurately read the temp. The cheap ones will show 118 degrees when the sun shines on them. That type of thing.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (FiUMj)

21
Maybe it's time to re-purpose that 1960s balled, The Times They Are A-Changin'?
Posted by: CBD


And you tell me over and over and over again my friend
You don't believe we're on the eve of destruction

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (aKsyK)

22 Admitting the illegally-sited ground stations will lead to redoing all this crap 'data' correctly giving the lie to the whole CAGW scam.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (Dh1wo)

23 Modeling. Modeling, NOT empirical data.

Jurassic Park was made with computer modeling.

The climastrologists need to make hard, definitive, specific short-term (

* And no, Virginia, I'm not buying this "we WOULD have predicted the historical weather" crap. Of course they would have reproduced the historical weather. The models are BASED on the historical weather. All that that proves is that they parameterized their models correctly from the historical weather. Turn it around: what would you conclude if their models DIDN'T "predict" the historical weather? I'd conclude that their programmers were for shit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (qlqmy)

24 Isn't there a lawsuit pending against Warmists but it can't proceed because they won't provide their data?

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (F7lRL)

25 The HADCRUT leaks and subsequent anti-FOIA panic among the more senior members of the AGW cult should have settled this issue rather conclusively.

I used to think that the thing that'd send the balloon up would the widespread realization among the public about just how big the scam was. But no, it's probably going to be something like drag queen story time.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (67XdO)

26 16 I was going to use Weather Underground, but am willing to look at others. Any recommendations?

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)

I would have said WU but no more. I don't know which ones are left that accept local private stations.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:28 PM (mpXpK)

27
Absolutely right. Submit a paper, and refuse to submit your raw data and data reduction algorithms as supplementary material?

Kiss my ass. MS: REJECTED, out of hand.
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I used to have a copy of this taped on the door of my lab.
http://tinyurl.com/y649ve27

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 12, 2019 02:29 PM (CDGwz)

28 Isn't there a lawsuit pending against Warmists but it can't proceed because they won't provide their data?
Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (F7lRL)

--Isn't Mark Steyn still tied up in his lawsuit against Hockey Stick Mann?

Posted by: logprof at May 12, 2019 02:30 PM (8hJuo)

29 It's a tactic.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 12, 2019 02:30 PM (w7KSn)

30 I was going to use Weather Underground, but am willing to look at others. Any recommendations?
Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)


Don't just give your valuable weather data away free, all willy-nilly like that. They want something you've got, let them bid on it. Dance for Weasel's amusement, weather monkeys!

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 12, 2019 02:30 PM (RHDdi)

31 20
Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)



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Did you buy a good one, ie expensive or a cheap Walmart type? The cheap ones are useless, they will be inaccurate.



You want ones that can stay in the sun and accurately read the temp.
The cheap ones will show 118 degrees when the sun shines on them. That
type of thing.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (FiUMj)

The cheap ones from LaCross are available from Amazon and they are the best.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:30 PM (mpXpK)

32 20 Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)

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Did you buy a good one, ie expensive or a cheap Walmart type? The cheap ones are useless, they will be inaccurate.

You want ones that can stay in the sun and accurately read the temp. The cheap ones will show 118 degrees when the sun shines on them. That type of thing.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:27 PM (FiUMj)
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It's not bad but I don't have it yet. Should arrive tomorrow.. About mid-range price wise.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:30 PM (MVjcR)

33 WU used to have the most reliable storm tracking and snow forecasts as compared to local weather bimbos.

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:31 PM (F7lRL)

34 Isn't there a lawsuit pending against Warmists but it can't proceed because they won't provide their data?
Posted by: kallisto
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I haven't heard anything about the Mann/Steyn dustup in the last year or so.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 12, 2019 02:31 PM (xSo9G)

35 So, who's up for a Climate Change conference in Tahiti?
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We can take my private jet!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2019 02:32 PM (Dh1wo)

36 Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:30 PM (mpXpK)

I have seen a sunshield thermometer enclosure that provides plenty of interior airflow that should work for almost any thermometer

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 02:32 PM (f3oO4)

37 28. maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:33 PM (F7lRL)

38 33 WU used to have the most reliable storm tracking and snow forecasts as compared to local weather bimbos.
Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:31 PM (F7lRL)
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WU recently acquired Intellicast which was the service I used for years for their forecasts. So lately I've been using WU.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:33 PM (MVjcR)

39 And BTW, unless you buy and expensive ventilated weather instrument box no monitor in direct sunlight will be accurate. The instruction manuals even say this.

The best place is on the North facing side of your house separated from the house. I have to move mine twice a day to keep them out of direct sunlight.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:35 PM (mpXpK)

40 THE WORLD ENDED YESTERDAY!



THIS IS A DREAM!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 12, 2019 02:18 PM (oVJmc)

So, sorta like Lost then.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2019 02:36 PM (q1Pj5)

41 "Climate Change". Yeah, every three months a new season.

This has been going on for a LONG time.

Hello?
Posted by: Kemp at May 12, 2019 02:35 PM (SyKI+)

Hey!

Where is the SPOILER ALERT!?

Posted by: tbodie at May 12, 2019 02:36 PM (4RRDi)

42 I'd like to see the *chan cave-dwellers pull off one of their troll campaigns to convince people to burn a tire on their front lawns to raise awareness of climate change.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 12, 2019 02:36 PM (RHDdi)

43 That last bit from the pull quote, the bit about the US comparing "modeled" predictions to actual data - ..... um, isn't that sort of basic and required for *all* models and predictions of any kind? WTF? Has that not been part of the "US" approach? (yeah I won't be shocked if it wasn't)


Have any warmist models *ever* been anything but invalidated by results vs. predictions?


But the meta-disaster here is the combo of scientific and logical illiteracy, and passivity, and desperate urge for fake religions, and raw authoritarian power madness reflected in the whole thing, by both the perps and a significant % of the populace.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2019 02:36 PM (QDnY+)

44 36
Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:30 PM (mpXpK)



I have seen a sunshield thermometer enclosure that provides plenty
of interior airflow that should work for almost any thermometer

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 02:32 PM (f3oO4)

Yes I have seen those too, and they are expensive.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:36 PM (mpXpK)

45 It will transmit data to a number of different weather websites. I was going to use Weather Underground, but am willing to look at others. Any recommendations?
Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:24 PM (MVjcR)

WU for us. The app and PC interface do just fine. You can even add a webcam.



This is ours at work.

Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 02:37 PM (OE84+)

46 Didn't Paul Newman do a movie where the new ice age happened and they all sat around playing a stupid game and trying to kill each other while freezing to death?

A real stink bomb it was. Needs a remake.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 12, 2019 02:37 PM (Z+IKu)

47
I see they yanked the medals and records from the male "transgender" power lifter.

Boo-hoo-hooing to begin any second now.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 12, 2019 02:38 PM (pNxlR)

48 There was a storm working its way up the coast - maybe Sandy? And our corporate mandated an all hands to get us prepped for Armageddon. Now emergency prep is always important, but I checked WU and it showed our area missing the worst of it.

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:38 PM (F7lRL)

49 40 And BTW, unless you buy and expensive ventilated weather instrument box no monitor in direct sunlight will be accurate. The instruction manuals even say this.

The best place is on the North facing side of your house separated from the house. I have to move mine twice a day to keep them out of direct sunlight.
Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:35 PM (mpXpK)
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A high degree of precision for temp readings isn't particularly necessary for me in this application. I'm mostly interested in the rain and soil moisture gauges.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:38 PM (MVjcR)

50 BTW, the good boxes have an internal fan that helps circulate the air. Of course then you have to have a power supply.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:38 PM (mpXpK)

51 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's, Gay, Lesbian, and Tri-Gender Reproductive Clinic want lets people kno that's all Transgendar persins of color will be giveren a 5% discunt today in Obamaboro shopping store things. We are pruod to be all persons of color friendly.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (aka: Obamaboro), VT at May 12, 2019 02:39 PM (qM84C)

52 http://bit.ly/2E37AEY
*******
Lindsey Graham: FBI Knew That Steele Dossier Wasn't Reliable - Sara A. Carter

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 12, 2019 02:39 PM (BqBId)

53 Global cooling, new ice age, rain forest depletion, melting polar ice caps, worldwide flooding, climate instability, extreme weather cycles.

These are all junk science, complete nonsense.

It's the ozone depletion from hair spray that will kill us all. We must stop the ozone depletion!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 12, 2019 02:39 PM (KEvUg)

54
Weather app on my phone says, "Temperature, 74. YOU'RE GOING TO DIE!!!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:39 PM (X3lUd)

55 The hysterics screeching of we only have 10 more years to save the climate back in the 80's were in dog years, so shut-up deniers.

Posted by: Ripley at May 12, 2019 02:39 PM (MxEKc)

56 I simply have my outdoor thermometer on the north side, shaded portion of our porch.

Btw, I have tracked outdoor temperatures, now and then, using very sensitive instruments. The fact is, averaging is necessary because of large short-term variations. Every bit of breeze brings a different temperature.

How NOAA does that is an interesting topic. They always round half-degree measurements upwards.

Measurement of 3.5 deg, 3.5 deg, and 3.5 deg. will result in a reported temperature of 4 deg.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 12, 2019 02:40 PM (xSo9G)

57 51 A high degree of precision for temp readings isn't
particularly necessary for me in this application. I'm mostly
interested in the rain and soil moisture gauges.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:38 PM (MVjcR)

I like the precision because I do a monthly daily high and low average. But I guess it will not be long before I will have to drop that.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:40 PM (mpXpK)

58 Being at 30 degrees latitude, a sub tropical zone, Houston enjoys 4 seasons: cool dry fall, a wet spring, summer, and OMG!Julyand August!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2019 02:40 PM (q1Pj5)

59
WU for us. The app and PC interface do just fine. You can even add a webcam.



This is ours at work.
Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 02:37 PM (OE84+)
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Thanks golfman!

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:41 PM (MVjcR)

60
Houston enjoys 4 seasons: cool dry fall, a wet spring, summer, and OMG!Julyand August!!

Posted by: Count de Monet


You left out Mosquito season.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:41 PM (X3lUd)

61 Weasel.

From the end of the gardening thread yesterday...

I like the sickle bar mower idea but try triclopyr for woody species. It will knock out the deciduous plants and not bother the grasses. Might want to wait until after a few mowings with the new grass.


Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 02:41 PM (OE84+)

62 55 It's the ozone depletion from hair spray that will kill us all. We must stop the ozone depletion!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 12, 2019 02:39 PM (KEvUg)

NASA used to publish the size of the so-called Ozone hole. In 10 years of data after banning from A/C the size did not change so they quit publishing it.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:42 PM (mpXpK)

63 You left out Mosquito season.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:41 PM (X3lUd)

That's pretty much year round.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 12, 2019 02:42 PM (q1Pj5)

64 I had a LaCrosse and it was meh. I now have Ambient Weather and it's DA BOMB.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:42 PM (FiUMj)

65 Weasel

Forgot link for our PWS.

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNCRAEFO15

Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 02:43 PM (OE84+)

66 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's, Gay, Lesbian, and Tri-Gender Reproductive Clinic are also sponsering a adopt a treee day . So come on to Barttleboro today and help save the trees. What has your cummunity done to save trees ??

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (aka: Obamaboro), VT at May 12, 2019 02:43 PM (qM84C)

67 rhomboid - all true , but add social approval from all the Kewl Kidz who are AGW acolytes.

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:43 PM (F7lRL)

68
I like the precision because I do a monthly daily high and low average. But I guess it will not be long before I will have to drop that.
Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:40 PM (mpXpK)
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Gotcha.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:43 PM (MVjcR)

69
Re: Newman ice age movie --

"Quintet is generally regarded as the greatest blooper of [Robert] Altman's career, a pretentious embarrassment attributable to an overconsumption of drugs, power or both."

Lots of Europeans in the cast, so an expectation of twatwafflery was warranted.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 12, 2019 02:44 PM (pNxlR)

70 39 And BTW, unless you buy and expensive ventilated weather instrument box no monitor in direct sunlight will be accurate. The instruction manuals even say this.

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The one I have is pretty damn good. I've compared it with having thermometers a few feet away in the shade and they're within 1-2 degrees of each other even at high noon on a summer day when the sub is beating down.

Wasn't that expensive, $200 IIRC.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:44 PM (FiUMj)

71
What has your cummunity done to save trees ??
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (aka: Obamaboro), VT at May 12, 2019 02:43 PM (qM84C)


Not as much as your "cummunity" has done to save potted indoor plants.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 12, 2019 02:45 PM (pNxlR)

72 64
I had a LaCrosse and it was meh. I now have Ambient Weather and it's DA BOMB.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:42 PM (FiUMj)

I have both. The LaCross is generally more accurate but the Ambient has lasted the longest.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:45 PM (mpXpK)

73 Let's face it. Owning your own tricked out 767 would be freaking outstanding!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 12, 2019 02:45 PM (0tfLf)

74 51. Mary! I'm so glad you remembered the children of coler.

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:46 PM (F7lRL)

75 Quintet is generally regarded as the greatest blooper of [Robert] Altman's career.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 12, 2019 02:44 PM (pNxlR)

Yup....Pure crapola. 2 hours of my life down the toilet.

Thanks Krebs!


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 12, 2019 02:47 PM (Z+IKu)

76 I worked a program once that had a data distribution system with about as much built-in integrity as you can get. The "original" master records were duplicated immediately as soon as the "original" data had been collected to create a small set of "standard" reference records with a secondary set of references then obtained from duplicating the primary reference data.. The originals were then stored in Obama's passport vault and usually inly the only the secondary reference records were available to analysts. In the rare case of a disagreement related to the reference records, there were several resolution processes, where the ultimate resolution would be to actually go back to the original master.

There was no data "correction" allowed in either the primary or secondary references. Analysts could apply different data massaging, but it was clearly marked as processed data.

Holding back data directly traceable to the original data stinks of corruption!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 02:47 PM (f3oO4)

77 70 Wasn't that expensive, $200 IIRC.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:44 PM (FiUMj)

Mine generally read within .5 degrees of each other , and $200 is pretty expensive for a box, especially if it doesn't have a fan.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:47 PM (mpXpK)

78 The times, they are a changin- BACK!

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2019 02:47 PM (OnEJV)

79 Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 02:43 PM (OE84+)
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Appreciate it golfman. I like the look of the Davis gear, but need something 3G capable and they get pricey in a hurry!

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:48 PM (MVjcR)

80 I have a weather rock.

One percenter and all that

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 12, 2019 02:48 PM (6qErC)

81 1970 was when my geology professor taught us about the coming ice age. In about 25,000 years. Haven't seen reason to revise that understanding since then.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for short-storiesh thing at May 12, 2019 02:49 PM (VQjKe)

82 In my immediate area within a mile radius there are about 10 PWS units on DU. They're all pretty accurate. It's impossible to know how accurate any of them is. But I basically to the figure skating thing. Take out the worst and best, then average the rest. And I know generally what the temp is. If it's off 0.2 degrees, meh, so be it.

Right now for example my PWS is showing 74.3, everyone else is showing 72 to 75.

Where there is yuuuge variation is wind. And it's all due to placement, how far from the house is it, are there trees nearby, etc. Unless it's in an open field 100 yards from the nearest building, wind measurements on those things are pretty useless, IMO.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:49 PM (FiUMj)

83
80 I have a weather rock.

One percenter and all that
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 12, 2019 02:48 PM (6qErC)


You ... fookin' ... snob!

GO! And never darken our door again!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 12, 2019 02:50 PM (pNxlR)

84 79 Appreciate it golfman. I like the look of the Davis gear, but need something 3G capable and they get pricey in a hurry!

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:48 PM (MVjcR)

Davis instruments are really expensive and that is what the certified airport people use. A weather system from them generally runs into the thousands of dollars.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:50 PM (mpXpK)

85 78
The times, they are a changin- BACK!

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2019 02:47 PM (OnEJV)

+++
Crow/Kitteh???

Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2019 02:50 PM (EjlXc)

86 Yes I have seen those too, and they are expensive.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:36 PM (mpXpK)


Amazing that a sunshield box costs more than the instrumentation inside it!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 02:51 PM (f3oO4)

87 GO! And never darken our door again"

You have a door?

*sob*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (6qErC)

88 Anyone who says the science is settled regarding a discipline only a couple of decades old, one that involves thousand upon thousands of variables, and millions of feedback loops, is either an idiot or con artists.

Posted by: IanDeal at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (vgGyZ)

89 82 Where there is yuuuge variation is wind. And it's
all due to placement, how far from the house is it, are there trees
nearby, etc. Unless it's in an open field 100 yards from the nearest
building, wind measurements on those things are pretty useless, IMO.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:49 PM (FiUMj)

The biggest impact during the day is from cloud cover. Sometimes from location too, my local airport has its weather shack near a concrete runway. Dureing the day it gets hot.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (mpXpK)

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84 79 Appreciate it golfman. I like the look of the Davis gear, but need something 3G capable and they get pricey in a hurry!

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:48 PM (MVjcR)

Davis instruments are really expensive and that is what the certified airport people use. A weather system from them generally runs into the thousands of dollars.
Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:50 PM (mpXpK)
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The one I ended up ordering is the Ecowitt WH6006E. It was about $350, so we'll see how it goes. If I decide to keep up with the monitoring I'll probably upgrade to a better station later but this should at least get me started. I hope!

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (MVjcR)

91
I have a weather rock.

One percenter and all that

Posted by: Anon a mouse


If the rock is wet, it's raining.
If the rock is swinging, the wind is blowing.
If the rock casts a shadow, the sun is shining.
If the rock does not cast a shadow and is not wet, the sky is cloudy.
If the rock is difficult to see, it is foggy.
If the rock is white, it is snowing.
If the rock is coated with ice, there is a frost.
If the ice is thick, it's a heavy frost.
If the rock is bouncing, there is an earthquake.
If the rock is under water, there is a flood.
If the rock is warm, it is sunny.
If the rock is missing, there was a tornado.
If the rock is wet and swinging violently, there is a hurricane.
If the rock can be felt but not seen, it is night time.
If the rock has white splats on it, watch out for birds.
If there are two rocks, stop drinking, you are drunk.


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (X3lUd)

92 88 is either an idiot or con artists.
Posted by: IanDeal at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (vgGyZ)

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Can't they be both?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 12, 2019 02:54 PM (FiUMj)

93 Had to wear squall jacket to church this morning but I much prefer cool rainy weather to hot blistering sun.

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 02:55 PM (F7lRL)

94 Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (mpXpK)

I think for a while WUWT was able to post pictures of "approved" NOAA weather station locations and they were unbelievable. Next to chimneys and HVAC units etc.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 02:55 PM (f3oO4)

95 Weasel.

We have an AcuRite 01512. Bluetooth into the house.

Why 3G? Running it off a cell signal?

Ours is connected to DSL running about 3.0 mps.

Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 02:56 PM (OE84+)

96 If there are two rocks, stop drinking, you are drunk.
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Hadrian,that was funny

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 12, 2019 02:57 PM (IDhUW)

97 my local airport has its weather shack near a concrete runway"

Interesting to see how DC's long term site (in VA, so...) has been moved around National Airport... what was once in a grassy meadow is now on a concrete pad near ac ductwork...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 12, 2019 02:57 PM (6qErC)

98 Ballad, not balled. Sheesh!

Posted by: monkey at May 12, 2019 02:57 PM (Aaxh4)

99 There is no upper limit what these people would do to Trump. They would put his son in jail if they could. I don't know if he will forgive them, but I hope he doesn't, for the country's sake.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 12, 2019 02:57 PM (BgUNS)

100 The one I ended up ordering is the Ecowitt WH6006E. It was about $350, so we'll see how it goes. If I decide to keep up with the monitoring I'll probably upgrade to a better station later but this should at least get me started. I hope!
Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (MVjcR)

Makes sense now.

Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 02:57 PM (OE84+)

101 Only 2 rocks?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 12, 2019 02:58 PM (6qErC)

102 Anyone who says the science is settled regarding a discipline only a couple of decades old, one that involves thousand upon thousands of variables, and millions of feedback loops, is either an idiot or con artists.

Posted by: IanDeal at May 12, 2019 02:53 PM (vgGyZ)


Come on, the computer based modeling will keep everyone honest!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 02:58 PM (f3oO4)

103 Ooo, I love a good balled.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 12, 2019 02:58 PM (Aaxh4)

104 88 Anyone who says the science is settled regarding a discipline only a couple of decades old, one that involves thousand upon thousands of variables, and millions of feedback loops, is either an idiot or con artists.

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Agreed.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 12, 2019 02:58 PM (IDhUW)

105
Interesting to see how DC's long term site (in VA, so...) has been moved around National Airport... what was once in a grassy meadow is now on a concrete pad near ac ductwork...

Posted by: Anon a mouse


Republicans still to blame.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 02:59 PM (X3lUd)

106 I think the Brattleboro approach to indoor horticulture is more of the "slash and burn" variety

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2019 02:59 PM (Ct55T)

107 I'm smoking some bacon. I was going to take the doggie out to hang out by the smoker. But the smoker scares her.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 02:59 PM (JgA4k)

108 Einstein was settled until Stephen Hawking came along.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 12, 2019 03:01 PM (BgUNS)

109 99 There is no upper limit what these people would do to Trump. They would put his son in jail if they could. I don't know if he will forgive them, but I hope he doesn't, for the country's sake.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 12, 2019 02:57 PM (BgUNS)

Personally it is fine to forgive, but when it is a national forgiveness, it is immoral bc the rule of law must be upheld.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 12, 2019 03:01 PM (IDhUW)

110
Oh, huzzah, it's pink bat day at the Rangers-Astros game.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 03:01 PM (X3lUd)

111 95 Weasel.

We have an AcuRite 01512. Bluetooth into the house.

Why 3G? Running it off a cell signal?

Ours is connected to DSL running about 3.0 mps.
Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 02:56 PM (OE84+)
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Yep. This is for the farm so no internet signal unless I'm there with my little hotspot gizmo.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 03:02 PM (MVjcR)

112 balled?

Posted by: teej at May 12, 2019 03:02 PM (E5emk)

113 Would think a smoker with BACON would drive the doggie nuts, not scare here (it would draw me from a 1/2 mile away .....).


Speaking of 767s and gas, let us remember the time an Air Canada 767 ran out of gas and had to glide into an old air force base. "Ladies and gentlemen, we're making an unscheduled stop because we're out of fuel. Note the midget racers on the runway and watch their reaction when they realize we really are landing".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2019 03:02 PM (QDnY+)

114 Some 50 or 60 years ago the government said the low fat, high carb food pyramid was settled science. Dissenters were banished.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 03:03 PM (JgA4k)

115 It's the ozone depletion from hair spray that will kill us all. We must stop the ozone depletion!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 12, 2019 02:39 PM (KEvUg)

Back in the 70's we had the hole in the ozone layer due to CFC's, plus! All big cities had out of control ozone (air) pollution.

I once asked my science teacher how all those CFC's got past the ground level ozone to destroy only the upper atmosphere ozone.

He smiled and changed the subject.

Posted by: tbodie at May 12, 2019 03:03 PM (4RRDi)

116 Yeah, missed the last thread entirely.

Posted by: teej at May 12, 2019 03:03 PM (E5emk)

117 It's war time. Enemies are to be vanquished, not forgiven.

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 03:04 PM (F7lRL)

118 107 I'm smoking some bacon. I was going to take the doggie out to hang out by the smoker. But the smoker scares her.
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 02:59 PM (JgA4k)
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Cigar smoke scares WeaselDog.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 03:04 PM (6n6h9)

119 107
I'm smoking some bacon. I was going to take the doggie out to hang out by the smoker. But the smoker scares her.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 02:59 PM (JgA4k)

+++
Obviously no replacement for your dear wife, but has your new dog become a good companion for you so far?

Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2019 03:04 PM (EjlXc)

120 Yep. This is for the farm so no internet signal unless I'm there with my little hotspot gizmo.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 03:02 PM (MVjcR)


You should apply for a grant to test rural wireless internet performance in a practical setting!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 03:05 PM (f3oO4)

121 Years ago when I got into all this weather stuff I had a monitor that included local wind speed as well as temps and humidity. I had the monitor mounted on a pole in the backyard. The wind speed thing got brittle with age and eventually a gust of wind blew it off the pole and broke it. I never replaced it as I found I could care less about the wind speed.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:05 PM (mpXpK)

122 115. SERPENTINE!

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 03:06 PM (F7lRL)

123 Some 50 or 60 years ago the government said the low fat, high carb food pyramid was settled science. Dissenters were banished.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 03:03 PM (JgA4k)


I'm sure BigAgri had nothing to do with that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 03:06 PM (f3oO4)

124 And after scrolling up just a bit and reading down, I see I'm not the only one.

Posted by: teej at May 12, 2019 03:07 PM (E5emk)

125 The Earth itself is a closed heat engine.

It takes radiated energy from the sun, and reradiates that energy back out.

What they are arguing about is the Atmospheric temperature near the Earth's surface.

CO2 cannot be FURTHER changing the Temperature near the earth's surface. Why? Because while CO2 does absorb the Energy radiated by the Earth itself, it only does so in very limited Wavelengths, and ALL of that energy is being absorbed by existing CO2 and Water Vapor.

That energy is then passed on to the rest of the atmosphere via conduction and convection.

This energy is absorbed within METERS of the earth's surface. Even doubling or tripling CO2 will only mean its absorbed at 8 or 9 meters, vs 10 meters (which does not mean anything as conduction and convection are moving that energy around anyway).

Whole thing is a con.

Posted by: Don Q at May 12, 2019 03:07 PM (NgKpN)

126 Obviously no replacement for your dear wife, but has your new dog become a good companion for you so far?
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2019 03:04 PM (EjlXc)

We love each other.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 03:07 PM (JgA4k)

127 Take your hands off me, you damn dirty ape!

Posted by: Archer at May 12, 2019 03:07 PM (vzk+c)

128 115 I once asked my science teacher how all those CFC's got past the ground level ozone to destroy only the upper atmosphere ozone.



He smiled and changed the subject.

Posted by: tbodie at May 12, 2019 03:03 PM (4RRDi)

BTW next year thanks to that non-existent ozone hole all A/C freon will be banned next year and they have NOTHING yet to replace it.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:08 PM (mpXpK)

129 We love each other.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 03:07 PM (JgA4k)

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Wonderful!

Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2019 03:08 PM (EjlXc)

130 BTW next year thanks to that non-existent ozone hole all A/C freon will be banned next year and they have NOTHING yet to replace it.
Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:08 PM (mpXpK)

Stock up!!

Posted by: golfman at May 12, 2019 03:10 PM (OE84+)

131 123
Some 50 or 60 years ago the government said the low fat, high carb food pyramid was settled science. Dissenters were banished.



Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 03:03 PM (JgA4k)



I'm sure BigAgri had nothing to do with that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 03:06 PM (f3oO4)

High carb food is a big no-no if you have diabetes as I have found out recently.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:10 PM (mpXpK)

132 108 Einstein was settled until Stephen Hawking came along.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 12, 2019 03:01 PM (BgUNS)

And Steven Hawking is no longer settled either.

Posted by: Don Q at May 12, 2019 03:10 PM (NgKpN)

133 Sigh.

So Goolag has no "doodle" for Mother's Day, just the stock logo, but they do have a snarky little link at the bottom of the homepage saying "Here's to every parent taking on the role of a lifetime".

What it links to, i'll never know.

But "F*ck You, Mom!" does sound very much like a Goolag-approved sentiment.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2019 03:11 PM (Ct55T)

134 Global cooling er warming er climate change is all bullshit. All of it. The climate of the earth is always changing always has and always will change. The biggest factor driving that change is the big yellow hot thing in the sky.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at May 12, 2019 03:12 PM (0OmEj)

135 I won't slow down on my CO2 production until Malibu is under water.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 12, 2019 03:13 PM (jp0Bv)

136 95. Weasel. Some of the providers' software for cell phone type transmission of weather data will only interface with their proprietary interwebs software. Do not know anything about the brand you are buying.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 12, 2019 03:13 PM (gSgAd)

137 Here's a link to an image of temperature data taken off of our porch, 5 minute intervals, over 24 hours. You'll see why averaging is necessary.

WARNING - May produce crick in neck!

http://tinyurl.com/y23qqsso

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 12, 2019 03:14 PM (xSo9G)

138 BTW, we are in a long term cooling trend right now. Real climate people say that and my local data here since 1998 when I started taking it backs that up.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:14 PM (mpXpK)

139 134 Global cooling er warming er climate change is all bullshit. All of it. The climate of the earth is always changing always has and always will change. The biggest factor driving that change is the big yellow hot thing in the sky.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at May 12, 2019 03:12 PM (0OmEj)

Yup, until these Climate "Scientists" can explain how Ice Ages happen? They need to just shut the hell up.

Posted by: Don Q at May 12, 2019 03:15 PM (NgKpN)

140
You should apply for a grant to test rural wireless internet performance in a practical setting!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 12, 2019 03:05 PM (f3oO4)
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It'd take millions!

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 03:15 PM (MVjcR)

141 You should apply for a grant to test rural wireless internet performance in a practical setting!
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And lesbians with pudding!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2019 03:15 PM (Dh1wo)

142 136 95. Weasel. Some of the providers' software for cell phone type transmission of weather data will only interface with their proprietary interwebs software. Do not know anything about the brand you are buying.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 12, 2019 03:13 PM (gSgAd)
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Thanks. This one is compliant with some protocol (?) and is advertised to work with WU and a few others.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 03:17 PM (MVjcR)

143 Since doggie doesn't want to hang out by the smoker I'm in the other yard with her where she's gnawing on a beef marrow bone.
I think she'd sell me for body parts for one of those.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 03:19 PM (JgA4k)

144 Does it come with the phone card and minutes? Davis makes one buy the card and data separately

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 12, 2019 03:19 PM (gSgAd)

145 The Protocols of the Elders of Freon. You-know-who controls the weather.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2019 03:20 PM (Dh1wo)

146 it's called weather.

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 12, 2019 03:20 PM (DGS6j)

147 Northerlurker, so she like the bones, does she?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 12, 2019 03:21 PM (02iTB)

148
So Goolag has no "doodle" for Mother's Day,
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Well, just a thought, you might consider NOT using them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 12, 2019 03:22 PM (xSo9G)

149 Yeah, put me down for a mini Ice Age.

I've read that we may be entering a solar "grand minimum" beginning next year that could last for 50 years.

https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2019/04/10/ experts-predict-the-solar-cycle/

((remove space))


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 12, 2019 03:22 PM (kQs4Y)

150
Northerlurker, so she like the bones, does she?

Posted by: Ben Had


Fresh bones cause deafness in Borzoi. Don't ask me how I know this.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 03:23 PM (X3lUd)

151 Global cooling is much worse than Global Warming. Just ask the people who suffered through the last ice age,

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:24 PM (mpXpK)

152 The only thing needed to confirm the whole thing is a hoax was at the 2009 Copenhagen Climate Conference. Standing ovation for oil dictator Hugo Chavez after his anti-American rant. Yet here, the left are trying to sue oil companies. The whole thing is 100% BS to grab more money and power.

Posted by: Ripley at May 12, 2019 03:24 PM (MxEKc)

153
I've read that we may be entering a solar "grand minimum" beginning next year that could last for 50 years.

"Climate Chaos! Turn power over to us to fight it!" - Your Ruling Class

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2019 03:25 PM (X3lUd)

154 Our local news media likes to tell us about the "near record high temperatures" in there stories
near record highs are NOT record highs. They present this information intentionally to reaffirm the paranoia of the feeble minded. If you are smart on the other hand, you would realize that temperatures that can't break records from the 1910's aren't indicative of an upward trend.
The next time somebody tries to scare you by telling you that we are seeing the highest temperatures we've seen in 100 years, the only response should be "wait, it was this hot 100 years ago?"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 12, 2019 03:27 PM (h1jJh)

155 We're gonna overpopulate and starve to death! Alar! Acid rain! The bees are all dying! AAAAAHHHH!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 12, 2019 03:29 PM (NWiLs)

156 How people buy into this shit is completely beyond me -

'You want proof?' they say.

'Hurricanes!'
'Floods!'
'Forest Fires!'




Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2019 03:32 PM (99E+7)

157 We're gonna overpopulate and starve to death! Alar! Acid rain! The bees are all dying! AAAAAHHHH!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at May 12, 2019 03:29 PM (NWiLs)

So, drink the Alar, shower in the acid rain and avoid the bees. You'll be fine .

Posted by: tbodie at May 12, 2019 03:32 PM (4RRDi)

158 "Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night
God said, "Let Newton be!" and all was light."

"It did not last. The Devil, howling, "Ho!
Let Einstein be!" restored the status quo."

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 12, 2019 03:34 PM (IFKOp)

159 She doesn't hear me say come. Hmmmmmm.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 03:34 PM (JgA4k)

160 One other thing besides low temps that the lack of sun activity causes is poor FM radio reception.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:35 PM (mpXpK)

161
BTW, we are in a long term cooling trend right now. Real climate people say that and my local data here since 1998 when I started taking it backs that up.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:14 PM (mpXpK)

This scientist seems to be saying the same thing.
https://tinyurl.com/ybjk2qyc

Posted by: YIKES! at May 12, 2019 03:35 PM (t6XCL)

162 if your "science" is settled, you have a religion, not a science.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 12, 2019 03:35 PM (MasTK)

163

Jay Inslee on his way to defeat climate change

https://tinyurl.com/y5h6gqnc

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 12, 2019 03:36 PM (aKsyK)

164 If it takes a lawsuit to force you to provide the raw data the Federal Government funded you that you used to make your global warming claims, what you are doing is not science.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 12, 2019 03:36 PM (JUOKG)

165 Yesterday, Obama admitted he was born in Kenya:

https://tinyurl.com/y5txeclo

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at May 12, 2019 03:38 PM (sktRI)

166 Oh wait.

Obama link is... old? But I've never seen it before. Sigh.

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at May 12, 2019 03:38 PM (sktRI)

167 NOAA admits poorly located weather stations skews data

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/03/
big-news-verified-by-noaa-poor-weather
-station-siting-leads-to-artificial-long-
term-warming/

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 12, 2019 03:39 PM (MasTK)

168 BTW next year thanks to that non-existent ozone hole all A/C freon will be banned next year and they have NOTHING yet to replace it.
Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2019 03:08 PM (mpXpK)

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Propane!

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 12, 2019 03:40 PM (Fxbk+)

169 Put me down for a solar minimum prediction as well. Wintering in Texas sounds better every year.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 12, 2019 03:41 PM (XKZwp)

170 If it takes a lawsuit to force you to provide the raw data the Federal
Government funded you that you used to make your global warming claims,
what you are doing is not science.
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And after losing the court case your sole, single copy of the programme that made you famous ends up being accidentally deleted, it means something is up.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2019 03:42 PM (Dh1wo)

171 Wintering in Texas sounds better every year.
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OTOH, there's nothing between Texas and the Canadian cold-air mass but a barbed-wire fence, and it's down half the time.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 12, 2019 03:44 PM (IFKOp)

172 So being a Texan, I'm kind of interested in this global cooling thing. It's almost mid-May and I'm sitting in my back yard under a spreading live oak tree and it's a lovely temperature. Normally by this time, there's a good chance it would be too hot to sit out here this time of day.

Of course the bad news is that there would be an even greater influx of Yankees around here, so there's that. (Explainer: Californians are the worst kind of Yankees.)

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 12, 2019 03:44 PM (S+f+m)

173 143 Since doggie doesn't want to hang out by the smoker I'm in the other yard with her where she's gnawing on a beef marrow bone.
I think she'd sell me for body parts for one of those.
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 12, 2019 03:19 PM (JgA4k)

A Vet on my bird hunting website says his wife drives a Mercedes from all the dogs that come in with a broken canine tooth. $2,500 surgery. He says only flat raw hides. His evidence is that the wolves leave the deer, elk or moose bones alone in the wild. Can't argue with that.

Posted by: clutch at May 12, 2019 03:46 PM (kiSdp)

174 >>Wintering in Texas sounds better every year.


I've been to Texas.

Nothing about Texas sounds good to me.

Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2019 03:47 PM (99E+7)

175

Of course the bad news is that there would be an even greater influx of Yankees around here, so there's that. (Explainer: Californians are the worst kind of Yankees.)
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 12, 2019 03:44 PM (S+f+m)

Whoa, we don't claim those idiots!

Posted by: clutch at May 12, 2019 03:48 PM (kiSdp)

176 >>His evidence is that the wolves leave the deer, elk or moose bones alone in the wild.


He's obviously never set foot in wolf country. Their scat is loaded with bone shards.

Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2019 03:49 PM (99E+7)

177 I once asked my science teacher how all those CFC's got past the ground level ozone to destroy only the upper atmosphere ozone.

He smiled and changed the subject.
Posted by: tbodie at May 12, 2019 03:03 PM (4RRDi)


That doesn't make sense. CFCs do not react with ozone. Photolysis of CFCs in the upper atmosphere (by hard UV irradiation) produces chlorine ATOMS (Cl.), which catalytically decompose ozone according to

Cl .+ O3 --> ClO + O2
ClO + O3 --> Cl. + 2 O2

I.e., chlorine atoms act as oxygen atom carriers by forming chlorine monoxide.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2019 03:50 PM (qlqmy)

178 144 Does it come with the phone card and minutes? Davis makes one buy the card and data separately
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 12, 2019 03:19 PM (gSgAd)
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No, I bought a 500min/unlimited data card separately. $9/mo.

Posted by: Weasel at May 12, 2019 03:50 PM (MVjcR)

179 DID YOU KNOW: Since plastic bags have been banned in CA, over 12,000 whales have been created or saved.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 12, 2019 03:57 PM (4knXT)

180 Nothing about Texas sounds good to me.

Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2019 03:47 PM (99E+7)

So, NO STATE INCOME TAX, doesn't sound good to you?

Posted by: Kemp at May 12, 2019 03:57 PM (nuKkT)

181 179 DID YOU KNOW: Since plastic bags have been banned in CA, over 12,000 whales have been created or saved.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 12, 2019 03:57 PM (4knXT)


Were they using the plastic bags as condoms?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2019 03:57 PM (qlqmy)

182 He's obviously never set foot in wolf country. Their scat is loaded with bone shards.
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2019 03:49 PM (99E+7)

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Pro Tip: It's best not to inspect the scat in Cougar Country.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 12, 2019 03:58 PM (4knXT)

183 Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2019 03:49 PM (99E+7)

At any rate, I have no desire to add to his wife's Mercedes fund. Flat raw hides is all my Pointer gets.

Posted by: clutch at May 12, 2019 03:58 PM (kiSdp)

184 So, NO STATE INCOME TAX, doesn't sound good to you?

Kemp, shhhhhh.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 12, 2019 04:00 PM (S+f+m)

185 if there's a cob in the house, the comments page on the Book Thread won't load. could be my 'puter, don't know.

Posted by: kallisto at May 12, 2019 04:01 PM (kD8Fh)

186
Were they using the plastic bags as condoms?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2019 03:57 PM (qlqmy)

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Don't know. The algorithm was borrowed from the Obama Office of Management and Budget.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 12, 2019 04:02 PM (4knXT)

187 Here are some actual figures. Given that the Earth's atmosphere weighs 14.7 lbs for each square inch of the Planet's surface, Each person's share of that atmosphere is about 185,000 tons of air. In order to change the temperature of the atmosphere each person on the planet has to change the temperature of 185,000 tons of air.

Considering that it costs $5.00 per month to change the temperature by 1 degree F of the 1200 lbs of air in a 2000 sq ft house, it would cost each person on the planet about $300,000 dollars a month to heat their share of the atmosphere by one degree. That assumes that each person's share of the air is as well insulated as the air in a house.

That is what it would cost - if we were trying to do that on purpose. Global warming assumes we are doing it by accident.

Posted by: An Observation at May 12, 2019 04:04 PM (A8q10)

188 So chlorine bad.

Must ban chlorine.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 12, 2019 04:05 PM (1g7ch)

189 "43 That last bit from the pull quote, the bit about the US comparing
"modeled" predictions to actual data - ..... um, isn't that sort of
basic and required for *all* models and predictions of any kind? WTF?
Has that not been part of the "US" approach? (yeah I won't be shocked if
it wasn't)


Have any warmist models *ever* been anything but invalidated by results vs. predictions?


But
the meta-disaster here is the combo of scientific and logical
illiteracy, and passivity, and desperate urge for fake religions, and
raw authoritarian power madness reflected in the whole thing, by both
the perps and a significant % of the populace.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2019 02:36 PM (QDnY+)"
Nope, they started straying from real science about 40 or so years ago. Watermelons as far as the eye can see; it's all political, and cult-like, because progressivism is a cult.
What's worse, they've been busted repeatedly on running old data through "correction" algos, and then DESTROYING THE ORIGINAL STATION DATA. North American climate records are basically worthless at this point. This is Taliban-statue-smashing levels of barbarism.
People have been hand-wringing about the burning times for years - admittedly fewer of them, lately - but shit like this is why it was a done deal even 10, 20 years ago. You cannot have things like this going on and maintain a functioning culture. And this is precisely the same sort of self-destructive, virtue-signalling, navel gazing bullshit that has led to the EU's "refugee" insanity.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at May 12, 2019 04:05 PM (67XdO)

190
F00d N00d!

Posted by: Spun & Murky at May 12, 2019 04:05 PM (4DCSq)

191 Nood food.

Posted by: Olddog in mo at May 12, 2019 04:06 PM (tB2Xv)

192 Food thread up.

Posted by: HH at May 12, 2019 04:06 PM (mIJBI)

193 But the meta-disaster here is the combo of scientific and logical illiteracy, and passivity, and desperate urge for fake religions, and raw authoritarian power madness reflected in the whole thing, by both the perps and a significant % of the populace.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2019 02:36 PM (QDnY+)


This.

See also health/ diet/ nutrition for some real voodoo "science" followed by the voodoo religious faithful.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2019 04:12 PM (qlqmy)

194 That doesn't make sense. CFCs do not react with ozone. Photolysis of
CFCs in the upper atmosphere (by hard UV irradiation) produces chlorine
ATOMS (Cl.), which catalytically decompose ozone according to



Cl .+ O3 --> ClO + O2

ClO + O3 --> Cl. + 2 O2



I.e., chlorine atoms act as oxygen atom carriers by forming chlorine monoxide.SSS

Is there a natural source of chlorine? Well the oceans have sodium chloride in large amounts - so if that were to be carried upward by water vapor from the oceans that would be a source that could be decomposed by ultra violet light. But if that were happening then we would have sodium in the upper atmosphere... Oh wait, I seem to remember something about the Sodium layer in the upper atmosphere reflecting radio waves... Gee, I wonder how that gets there.
Not like the amount of salt in the air, you can smell it when you're near the ocean, is way bigger than the total amount of Freon ever created.

Posted by: An Observation at May 12, 2019 04:17 PM (A8q10)

195 In the 80's, it was Patrick Emory's hairspray consumption that was destroying the ozone.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 12, 2019 04:17 PM (RuIsu)

196 data contradicts the left's fake models ... NASA has the answer, just lower the earlier data points, now the data is closer to agreeing (but still wrong)


Tony Heller has done good work


youtube.com/watch?v=6kUAtt2pXlc

Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2019 04:32 PM (Cus5s)

197 Is there a natural source of chlorine? Well the oceans have sodium chloride in large amounts - so if that were to be carried upward by water vapor from the oceans that would be a source that could be decomposed by ultra violet light. But if that were happening then we would have sodium in the upper atmosphere... Oh wait, I seem to remember something about the Sodium layer in the upper atmosphere reflecting radio waves... Gee, I wonder how that gets there.
Not like the amount of salt in the air, you can smell it when you're near the ocean, is way bigger than the total amount of Freon ever created.

Posted by: An Observation at May 12, 2019 04:17 PM (A8q10)


Chloride != chlorine atoms. Irradiation of chloride ions to produce chlorine atoms is basically a non-starter much below the X-ray range of radiation. Irradiation of CFCs homolytically cleaves RC-Cl to RC. + Cl., which is much easier.

Sodium chloride is effectively involatile. There might be a little bit in spray, but that's it.

Sodium layer??

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2019 04:38 PM (qlqmy)

198 When the methane frozen at the bottom of the oceans thaws and bubbles to the surface I wouldn't want to be a climate change denigher.

Posted by: raimondo at May 12, 2019 04:45 PM (Dasvv)

199 198 When the methane frozen at the bottom of the oceans thaws

Methane melts at -182 C.

It must be pretty nippy at the bottom of ocean.

But thank you for contributing to the mirth of nations.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2019 04:47 PM (qlqmy)

200 https://washex.am/2E5VA5B
*********
Strengthened Trump crippling Democratic Senate recruitment, 0-7 so far

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 12, 2019 05:34 PM (BqBId)

201 on ABC with George Stephanopoulos: "I think the American people will be shocked and dismayed to know that Joe Biden's son was making $50,000.00 a month just a couple of months after he was dishonorably discharged from the military for drugs. $50,000.00 a month, I think most Americans will be dismayed that the vice president's son was doing this while Joe Biden was actually lobbying to have this company go free of prosecution," said Senator Rand Paul.

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 12, 2019 05:47 PM (BqBId)

202 https://fxn.ws/2E5FJnD
*******
Graham pushing to declassify key 'document' on Steele dossier, announces new asylum law package | Fox News

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 12, 2019 05:55 PM (BqBId)

203 From Wikipedia:

The late Ordovician glaciation event was preceded by a fall in atmospheric carbon dioxide (from 7000 ppm to 4400 ppm)

How cold was it?

The Ordovician-Silurian extinction events, when combined, are the second-largest of the five major extinction events in Earth's history in terms of percentage of genera that became extinct.

Today, the world will end because we're climbing from just over 300ppm to just under 400ppm.

It's almost like there might be more than one variable in the equation...

Posted by: mikeski at May 12, 2019 05:57 PM (P1f+c)

204 Global warming true believers: the left's end-times cult

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 12, 2019 06:22 PM (T09ml)

205 I wouldn't want to be a climate change denigher.
Posted by: raimondo at May 12, 2019

+++++



"denigher"

You are a troll with the artistic touch of The Onion.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 12, 2019 06:25 PM (T09ml)

206 Peggy Lipton has Passed Away

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 12, 2019 06:44 PM (BqBId)

207 The Mummy is ending right now on SyFy. The Mummy Returns is next.
The 1999 version of Rachel Weisz is pretty hawt.
She is a big-time One.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 12, 2019 06:47 PM (ufFY8)

208 never mind: we only have 12 seconds left to save the planet...

Babylon Bee

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 12, 2019 06:51 PM (MasTK)

209 All I know is that I am not a God nor any of Gods that we think we can control what is called weather.

Posted by: Sherpa_k2 at May 12, 2019 07:08 PM (BsCoj)

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