The Intellectual Dark Web and Education [KT]

I have been running across the term "Intellectual Dark Web" lately. Sounds kind of sinister. The first definition I ran across was just something vague about people who got their messages out even though they bypassed the mainstream media. But I guess this is an actual group of people:

It turns out the IDW is mostly a collection of disillusioned liberals looking for a place to have honest conversation

Daniel Miessler took it upon himself to figure out what these people believed on all the major issues:

During the research I started noticing some weird stuff about this supposedly hateful IDW group of Harris, Weinstein, Rubin, and Shapiro. Namely, they're all Jewish, and yet a number of them are often labeled as white supremacists and even neo-Nazis. That completely breaks the stupidmeter.

Some of these people may not be your favorites, but at least they are talking to each other, if not to you. Anyway, Miessler's chart of the positions of six of the leading members of the "Intellectual Dark Web" is helpful. Take a look.

Just so you know where he's coming from:

Rather than bash them due to something you heard from this one place--or that one friend--take the time to actually listen. Most of them are progressive just like you and me. And if you're not liberal that's fine too--listening will show you that true discussion is still possible.

There's a longer list of members in a piece this week by Bari Weiss in the NYT:

The closest thing to a phone book for the I.D.W. is a sleek website that lists the dramatis personae of the network, including Mr. Harris; Mr. Weinstein and his brother and sister-in-law, the evolutionary biologists Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying; Jordan Peterson, the psychologist and best-selling author; the conservative commentators Ben Shapiro and Douglas Murray; Maajid Nawaz, the former Islamist turned anti-extremist activist; and the feminists Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Christina Hoff Sommers. But in typical dark web fashion, no one knows who put the website up.

The term "Intellectual Dark Web" was coined by Eric Weinstein, the brother of Bret Weinstein, the professor at the center of the Evergreen State drama.

A year ago, Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying were respected tenured professors at Evergreen State College, where their Occupy Wall Street-sympathetic politics were well in tune with the school's progressive ethos. Today they have left their jobs, lost many of their friends and endangered their reputations.
All this because they opposed a "Day of Absence," in which white students were asked to leave campus for the day. For questioning a day of racial segregation cloaked in progressivism, the pair was smeared as racist. Following threats, they left town for a time with their children and ultimately resigned their jobs.

Eric Weinstein's commentary:

"Nobody else reacted. That's what shocked me," Mr. Weinstein said. "It told me that a culture that told itself it was radically open-minded was actually a culture cowed by fear.

This brings us to a challenging piece from Quillette, which is reviled by The Left partly because it sometimes publishes pieces by members of the IDW. After Academia is a pretty dramatic title. Can education bypass academia the way the IDW has bypassed mainstream media? Nobody is listening to conservatives. Will anyone in academia listen to the IDW? What can conservatives learn from the IDW?

The piece focuses on the Evergreen State drama, with a video documentary included:

I keep being invited to talk about free speech on college campuses and every time I'm invited I make the same point: that this isn't about free speech and this is only tangentially about college campuses. This is about a breakdown in the basic logic of civilisation, and it's spreading. College campuses may be the first dramatic battle but of course this is going to find its way into the courts; it's already found its way into the tech sector. It's going to find its way to the highest level of governance if we aren't careful, and it actually does jeopardise the ability of civilisation to continue to function.
--Bret Weinstein

The author of the piece has a girlfriend from Bulgaria. About the behavior of students, faculty and administration at Evergreen State:

This is exactly the kind of ideological coercion for which Bulgarians have no tolerance: the chain of citations is immaterial if the behaviour is identical. Their society was destroyed by totalitarian tendencies, albeit dressed in different academese. And this isn't an academic panel discussion; at Evergreen, gangs of thugs prowled the campus with baseball bats in search of thought criminals.
These radical ideologies are empowering, but not in the inspiring way that this term is usually used. This power corrupts and, more importantly, it attracts the easily corrupted. Concurrently, a similar corrupting process seems to have occurred in academia, which has ballooned into an administrative morass, the primary purpose of which is to accrue rent-seeking profit, as predicted by Parkinson's Law. Parkinson's Law holds that a task will take as long as the time allotted to complete it. It seems to be a kind of social equilibrium theorem applicable to any complex organisation. Normally such organisations would simply collapse under the weight of their own bureaucratic inefficiency, but academia is different. It will never be allowed to collapse because education is a right.

"It will never be allowed to collapse because education is a right." Until it collapses.

I liked this:

"If we are to address this problem and rescue education, we first need to distinguish between what I will call the classical and modern variants. Classical education involves the acquisition of culturally and scientifically useful knowledge, and fostering an ability to think critically to further understanding. Modern education, on the other hand, is accreditation by an officially sanctioned seminary." . . . .

So, do you see viable ways to get an education while skipping the destructiveness and expense of academia? There are a few suggestions in the piece. You might want to read it.

Hope you have a great weekend.

Remember, this is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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1 "Nobody else reacted. That's what shocked me," Mr. Weinstein said. "It
told me that a culture that told itself it was radically open-minded was
actually a culture cowed by fear.

Really? You were surprised? And you call yourself an intellectual?

Posted by: pep at May 11, 2019 11:23 AM (T6t7i)

2 "Education is a right"

Suuuure.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 11:24 AM (6qErC)

3 And you call yourself an intellectual?

Posted by: pep at May 11, 2019 11:23 AM (T6t7i)

Nestled in the cocoon of progressive thought. So...pretty much an idiot.

I have no sympathy for these people. If they are so ignorant that they can't see the obvious parallels between current behavior on our campuses and Nazi Germany or Communist China, then they are too stupid to help and deserve what they got.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2019 11:30 AM (wYseH)

4 4th?

Posted by: Some other guy at May 11, 2019 11:31 AM (EyFCU)

5 Nice sentiments and agenda. Are they going to vote for Trump?

Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2019 11:34 AM (oTIO6)

6 Morning Horde-mates.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2019 11:34 AM (v+/21)

7 "It turns out the IDW is mostly a collection of disillusioned liberals looking for a place to have honest conversation"

I'm sorry. "Intellectual" and "liberal" together is an oxymoron. The "progressive" worldview, which is just academic mental masturbation, has never bothered to question the attempts by "liberals" to "make the world a better place" have only resulted in making the world a worse place. Until they examine their history and conclude they have been, and always will be, full of shit, i.e., cease being "progressive", I won't waste my time listening to their drivel.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 11, 2019 11:37 AM (m79Dg)

8 I have no sympathy for these people. If they are so ignorant that they can't see the obvious parallels between current behavior on our campuses and Nazi Germany or Communist China, then they are too stupid to help and deserve what they got.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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It often requires a life-changing event to cause the scales to fall from Prog/Liberal eyes.

Sometimes, even that doesn't work. Juan Williams comes to mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc., now with more caffeine at May 11, 2019 11:37 AM (w54mS)

9 There are many other IDW members. Off the top of my head:

Sargon of Akkad
Matt Christianson
Blonde in the Belly of the Beast
Tim Pool
Lauren Southern (sorta)
Lauren Chen (also known as Roaming Millenial)
Styxhexenhammer666
Aydin Paladin (sorta)
The Distributist
Paul Joseph Watson
Freedom Tunes

These are all via YouTube.

These are right of center voices for the most part but are part of the web of discussion with the IDW.

Posted by: KC at May 11, 2019 11:37 AM (DXTEG)

10 "Modern education, on the other hand, is accreditation by an officially sanctioned seminary."
________

But is that not exactly what the universities which brought us classical education started out as? Well, "officially sanctioned" was more a status that developed over time, than their start.

And rather less important than people think. The earliest of the traditional universities started in the 1100s, and were very well established by 1300, yet continued their mission until the late 20th C. That doesn't fit with the model of "right forever on the scaffold, wrong forever on the throne" that seems to underly a lot of the above.

In other words, I detect more of a common ancestry than they suspect between the IDW and their opponents.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 11, 2019 11:37 AM (VaN/j)

11 If you go purely by the unofficial induction ceremony for the IDW, being interviews on the Rubin Report, then Tim, Roaming Millenial, and Sargon are Official Members.

Posted by: KC at May 11, 2019 11:40 AM (DXTEG)

12
Nobody else reacted. That's what shocked me.

Jeebus, you're in higher education, an echo chamber in fact.

Find some "good ol' boys" and ask them to take you on a snipe hunt. In the post-hunt socializing, give a look at where you've hung out before and ask your new acquaintances what they think of that world. Don't defend it, just listen and ask questions in order to understand their perspective.

All you "book smart" types are too full of yourselves.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:40 AM (pNxlR)

13 "Education is a right"

Suuuure.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 11:24 AM (6qErC)

Depends on who the "educators" are. Sometimes it's mandatory.

Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 11:42 AM (ykq7q)

14
Can I be a member of the IDW, huh? Please, please, please! I'm all intellectual and stuff, too!

-- J'noah "Self-appointed Thought Leader" Goldbrick

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:43 AM (pNxlR)

15 i guess "intellectual" has taken on a new meaning. phucktards.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 11, 2019 11:44 AM (KP5rU)

16 KC

Add Razorfist, because nobody rants like him.

Posted by: Vanya at May 11, 2019 11:44 AM (jOt8z)

17 There was a YT channel run by Debbie sonething or other called Sane Progressive. She described the Hillarhoids' dirty tricks on the Bernie Bots...then became disillusioned with Bernie himself. She deplatformed herself due to threats she received.

Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2019 11:45 AM (oTIO6)

18 -- J'noah "Self-appointed Thought Leader" Goldbrick

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:43 AM (pNxlR)

....and plagiarist.

Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 11:45 AM (ykq7q)

19 All you "book smart" types are too full of yourselves.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:40 AM (pNxlR)

Your uncooperative attitude will be the main topic in this month's faculty meeting!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2019 11:45 AM (wYseH)

20 Crap. Power off now. Running on UPS. Time to sign off.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc., now with more caffeine at May 11, 2019 11:46 AM (/dN1M)

21 These guys largely built their own gulag. It was perfectly OK when they were Occupying Wall Street, trespassing on property and harassing the innocent while advocating utopian totalitarianism by a dictatorship of the elite but then they found themselves on the outside of the elite and on the inside of the gulag. My GAF meter is hovering around zero.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)

22 I was having too hard a time making it through that NYT article to see if they included Gad Saad. I'd definitely put him in this bunch.

I love the deafness of this article about deafness. 'They're Jewish!' 'They're progressives like you and me, but they're not in our cultivated mainstream conversation, should we listen?' And that's a perfect little picture of a bubble.

And the author couldn't resist taking a shot at Candace Owens. Just couldn't fucking resist leaving the thesis of the piece to argue, and be wrong about it too.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 11, 2019 11:47 AM (hFbrr)

23 Dammit, I hate it when I do that. Left a good joke in a dead thread. I'm bringing it forth. If y'all don't approve, posh and nonsense on you:

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I suspect Mad Magazine is not what Mayor Pete reads. He seems more like a GQ guy.
Posted by: never enough caffeine at May 11, 2019 10:41 AM (N3JsI)

Or GHQ. Gentleman's Hindquarterly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2019 11:33 AM (7njPr)

I do so hope he sticks around this race for a long time. If for no other reason, so we can watch the media stumble and fumble its way to avoiding calling him "Buttplug."

So, Mayor Buttplug, Trump seems to think "making America great again" means going back to the 80s, what say you, Mayor, when was American great?

"I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 11:47 AM (cY3LT)

24
She described the Hillarhoids' dirty tricks on the Bernie Bots...then became disillusioned with Bernie himself.

"Why am I listening to a schmuck who has neither held an honest job in his life nor sponsored and gotten passed any significant piece of legislation? And how was it that his wife bankrupted an entire college?

Wake up, Li'l Susie, wake up!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:47 AM (pNxlR)

25 It often requires a life-changing event to cause the scales to fall from Prog/Liberal eyes.

Sometimes, even that doesn't work"

"But I want Big Brother to Love Me"!!!!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 11:47 AM (6qErC)

26
"I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."

The heyday of Jim Crow laws, lynchings and the KKK?

Gotcha, Major Buttplug! You sure know how to pick 'em!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:49 AM (pNxlR)

27 In the old Soviet Union, these people were called dissidents.

They were locked up in looney bins and given "treatment".

You have the right to free speech as long as you're not
dumb enough to actually try it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 11, 2019 11:49 AM (Z+IKu)

28 I gave her another example: What if we found a culture that was ritually
blinding every third child? And she actually said, It would depend on
why they were doing it.

They actually believe this, and their moral relativism is just as comfortable executing you and sending your sterilized children to work camps.

DO NOT FORGET.

Posted by: M K Ultra at May 11, 2019 11:49 AM (UFLLM)

29 18 -- J'noah "Self-appointed Thought Leader" Goldbrick

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:43 AM (pNxlR)

....and plagiarist.
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 11:45 AM (ykq7q)
______

He can write speeches for Joe Biden. They're a match made in Xerox.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 11, 2019 11:49 AM (VaN/j)

30 Never protest in a small group (e.g. Abortion clinics). There is safety in numbers. The bullyboys won't mess with a crowd.

Posted by: JAS at May 11, 2019 11:51 AM (KOCKb)

31 Conversation.

Their use of this word brings out my inner Inigo Montoya.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 11, 2019 11:51 AM (hFbrr)

32 Had to clean out truck, spring cleaning.
Now to figure out the dark web education

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 11:51 AM (BbGew)

33 "Parkinson's Law holds that a task will take as long as the time allotted to complete it. It seems to be a kind of social equilibrium theorem applicable to any complex organisation."

Somebody's never worked a hard bid lump sum job, I see. Jesus Christ, these people live in an intellectual cave lined with fucking bubble wrap.

Posted by: Vanya at May 11, 2019 11:51 AM (jOt8z)

34 I'm glad they found a Safe Space on the left side of the aisle, but they still see us as Deplorables.

Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2019 11:52 AM (oTIO6)

35
Your uncooperative attitude will be the main topic in this month's faculty meeting!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2019 11:45 AM (wYseH)

none + + + + + some + + + + + too damn many
^^^
^^^

Behold! the reading on my fookstogive-ometer!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:52 AM (pNxlR)

36 There are many other IDW members. Off the top of my head:

Sargon of Akkad
Matt Christianson
Blonde in the Belly of the Beast
Tim Pool
Lauren Southern (sorta)
Lauren Chen (also known as Roaming Millenial)
Styxhexenhammer666
Aydin Paladin (sorta)
The Distributist
Paul Joseph Watson
Freedom Tunes

These are all via YouTube.

These are right of center voices for the most part but are part of the web of discussion with the IDW.

Posted by: KC at May 11, 2019 11:37 AM (DXTEG)

Certainly you can throw Ethan Van Skiver on the list. He's on the front lines of the comic book war, funny as heck, and not shy about his politics.

He gets more than his share of hate heat.

You might even throw Pewdiepie onto the list. Pewds gets raked over the coals for bullshit, and he's about as apolitical as you can get, but also doesn't shy away from being critical towards the media and the censors and the anti-free speech/copystrike nonsense that goes on with Youtube.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 11:53 AM (cY3LT)

37 >> I'm sorry. "Intellectual" and "liberal" together is an oxymoron.
Classical liberals are finally starting to leave the progressive plantation. Christina Hoff Sommers is not a conservative, but she's not a progressive either.

They claim that 15% of the US population wants to emigrate to Canada and elsewhere. These are hopelessly indoctrinated progressives. I hope Trump can find some cash to help them out.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 11, 2019 11:53 AM (o2vOl)

38 "It turns out the IDW is mostly a collection of disillusioned liberals looking for a place to have honest conversation"

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"Intellectual" and "liberal" together is an oxymoron.

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And "honest" isn't even in the same universe.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 11:54 AM (+y/Ru)

39
"I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 11:47 AM (cY3LT)

Also known as the Gay Nineties

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 11, 2019 11:54 AM (TAmPV)

40 "I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."
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The heyday of Jim Crow laws, lynchings and the KKK?

Gotcha, Major Buttplug! You sure know how to pick 'em!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:49 AM (pNxlR)

Oh my. I didn't think I needed to explain the joke. Look up the 1890s on your favorite web search thingamajig.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 11:55 AM (cY3LT)

41 My comment at 34 does not apply to some of the names at comment 9, with whom I am familiar.

Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2019 11:55 AM (oTIO6)

42 Their use of this word brings out my inner Inigo Montoya."

That word killed your father and thus must prepare to die?

/

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 11:55 AM (6qErC)

43 "So, do you see viable ways to get an education while skipping the destructiveness and expense of academia?"

You can easily get a good education on your own, but you don't get the credentials that get you a job. Employers don't want "educated" people; they want "credentialed" people.

Posted by: gp Submerged in the Sh!thole at May 11, 2019 11:55 AM (mk9aG)

44 Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 11:47 AM (cY3LT)

Also known as the Gay Nineties
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 11, 2019 11:54 AM (TAmPV)

IT'S FUNNY CUZ MAYER BUTTPLUG IS GAY.

Posted by: Ben Rothlessburger at May 11, 2019 11:56 AM (cY3LT)

45
So, Mayor Buttplug, Trump seems to think "making America great again" means going back to the 80s, what say you, Mayor, when was American great?

"I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 11:47 AM (cY3LT)

Not coincidentally, during the Jim Crow era.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2019 11:56 AM (eXA4G)

46 Posted by: KC at May 11, 2019 11:37 AM (DXTEG)

Why only "sorta" on Aydin Paladin?

She's a beast with a ton of content who does an excellent job ramming all the left's academic citations right back up their asses.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 11, 2019 11:57 AM (hFbrr)

47 Oh my. I didn't think I needed to explain the joke"

You have to be a bit over 29 to get the reference to the "Gay 90's"...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 11:57 AM (6qErC)

48 At best Ij would put these " conservatives " more into the Liberal column more in the Dennis Prager definition

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 11:57 AM (BbGew)

49 The Bulgarian girlfriend also made another interesting comment, a bit before the part quoted above, to the effect that the kids hadn't been raised to respect authority. Note that this is juxtaposed with her (and her peoples') rejection of ideological totalitarianism.

That doesn't quite fit with the modern mindset, but it is part of the picture many forget. We should remember that (a) there is no more "respect authority" minded tradition than Confucianism, and (b) under Mao, Confucius was Public Enemy #1, and they sought to eradicate his influence completely.

Things are not so simple as we might think.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 11, 2019 11:57 AM (VaN/j)

50 Not coincidentally, during the Jim Crow era.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2019 11:56 AM (eXA4G)

Wasn't that also the timeframe when trying to unionize got you shot in the face by the National Guard?

Posted by: Vanya at May 11, 2019 11:58 AM (jOt8z)

51 Employers don't want "educated" people; they want "credentialed" people."

Yep. Keeps the lawyers at bay.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 11:58 AM (6qErC)

52
By "dark", do they mean they scowl a lot and are all fierce and stuff?

'Cause that'd be awesome!

And something to which yoots could relate!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 11:58 AM (pNxlR)

53 Oh my. I didn't think I needed to explain the joke"
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You have to be a bit over 29 to get the reference to the "Gay 90's"...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 11:57 AM (6qErC)

Le sigh.

I think I would have some respect for the stupid idiot gay mayor if he actually DID say something like this.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 11:58 AM (cY3LT)

54 *Insert Gay 90s joke here*

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 11, 2019 11:59 AM (6qErC)

55 I trust none of the "I.D.W." members. They are Globalist bullshit artists who have had to defend themselves from being painted into a corner by Leftists.

...they only care about their own asses and working with the U.N. on shit like "Agenda 21".

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Town Drunk at May 11, 2019 11:59 AM (Ckg4U)

56 Employers don't want "educated" people; they want "credentialed" people."

Sometimes the two go hand in hand. Would you want a non-credentialed doctor?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:00 PM (lwiT4)

57 By "dark", do they mean they scowl a lot and are all fierce and stuff?"

"Dark Web" sounds all scary n' stuff. It's the land of nee'r do wells, scoundrels, and thieves.

And gypsies, tramps, and thieves...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:00 PM (6qErC)

58 "this supposedly hateful IDW group of Harris, Weinstein, Rubin, and Shapiro"

Rubin...as in Jen Rubin? Anything she's involved with can go fuck itself.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 11, 2019 12:00 PM (FiUMj)

59
Not coincidentally, during the Jim Crow era.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2019 11:56 AM (eXA4G)

Wasn't that also the timeframe when trying to unionize got you shot in the face by the National Guard?
Posted by: Vanya at May 11, 2019 11:58 AM (jOt8z)

Good times.... good times....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2019 12:00 PM (eXA4G)

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54 *Insert Gay 90s joke here*
Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 11, 2019 11:59 AM (6qErC)

Are you deliberately trying to make things harder?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:01 PM (pNxlR)

61 Didn' t Evergreen State's enrollment crater after the thugs took over?

Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2019 12:01 PM (oTIO6)

62 trying to unionize got you shot in the face by the National Guard?"

Why would the NG shoot someone trying to un-ionize?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:01 PM (6qErC)

63
"this supposedly hateful IDW group of Harris, Weinstein, Rubin, and Shapiro"

Dave Rubin

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:01 PM (pNxlR)

64 Intellectual Dark web is a lot of words for Just Wrong.

Posted by: DaveA at May 11, 2019 12:01 PM (FhXTo)

65 Those guys are all looking forward to drinks and cigars in the Hot Tub.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:02 PM (Lz8qP)

66 That word killed your father and thus must prepare to die?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 11:55 AM (6qErC)

I want that sonofabitch back, you.

Wait, what?

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 11, 2019 12:02 PM (hFbrr)

67 Employers don't want "educated" people; they want "credentialed" people."

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Sometimes the two go hand in hand. Would you want a non-credentialed doctor?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:00 PM (lwiT4)

Here's a funny thing.

Some day in the not so distant future, people with licenses are going to be subjected to intense searches of their online presence, and perhaps NOT get their licenses renewed... because they do things like post comments on AoSHQ.

Think it won't happen?

We'll see.

That's why I try my damnedest to protect my anonymity on this here site...

p.s. My name ain't really Burt.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

68 On intellectuals, it's always good to keep in mind Orwell's "You'd have to be an intellectual to believe that. No ordinary man could be such a fool."

Also Waugh's point, in the 30s, that the word "intellectual" was shifting from reference to the rational mind to an aesthetic emphasis. (Yes, it was happening already, then.)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 11, 2019 12:03 PM (VaN/j)

69 "I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."

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Speaking of screwball Donk wannabes, they're reporting that Blotto is lying low and is preparing a spectacular re-introduction of himself to the electorate. I don't know what it'll be but, I'm calling it right now, it'll be stupid and offensive.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)

70 Would you want a non-credentialed doctor?"

Sure.

Depends on who's doing the "credentialing"...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:04 PM (6qErC)

71 p.s. My name ain't really Burt.

My name really isn't winger.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:04 PM (lwiT4)

72 Weinstein supported Occupy Wall Street and now has a problem with people of the same ilk?

Bugger him. You're reaping what you've sown.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:04 PM (AQVpU)

73 Employers don't want "educated" people; they want "credentialed" people."

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Sometimes the two go hand in hand. Would you want a non-credentialed doctor?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:00 PM (lwiT4)

Here's a funny thing.

Some day in the not so distant future, people with licenses are going to be subjected to intense searches of their online presence, and perhaps NOT get their licenses renewed... because they do things like post comments on AoSHQ.

Think it won't happen?

We'll see.

That's why I try my damnedest to protect my anonymity on this here site...

p.s. My name ain't really Burt.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

So yeah, point being, credentialing can be used as a two edged sword. It protects you from the charlatans, it also keeps the legit professionals in line. So it remains entirely possible a non-credentialed person is perfectly capable. Just not allowed to be a member of the guild, because of some non-approved behavior that has NOTHING to do with his or her skills or application of same.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:05 PM (cY3LT)

74 p.s. My name ain't really Burt."

Roger that...

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at May 11, 2019 12:05 PM (6qErC)

75 Dark Web sounds all scary n' stuff. It's the land of nee'r do wells, scoundrels, and thieves.

And gypsies, tramps, and thieves...
------
...and Methodists.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at May 11, 2019 12:05 PM (IFKOp)

76
How, or better, WHY would anyone consider that interaction with these individuals is beneficial in any manner?

They need to be rendered ineffectual, thus becoming harmless.

That's a huge task, given how well they've entrenched themselves in all levels of society.

Debate won't cut it, given that their wilful ignorance has rendered them invulnerable to reason.

Approach the problem from that angle.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 11, 2019 12:05 PM (KATBx)

77 Wasn't that also the timeframe when trying to unionize got you shot in the face by the National Guard?
_______

IIRC, they were Pinkertons. And since that was a private company....

(You finish it.)

Someone should point out to Buttplug that the 1890s' most noted sodomite was an Irishman, not an American. I guess we weren't so great after all.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 11, 2019 12:06 PM (VaN/j)

78 my name isn't really chavez. it's melvin flapdoodle.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 11, 2019 12:06 PM (KP5rU)

79 ...and Methodists."

Tough crowd.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:06 PM (6qErC)

80 My daughter teaches at a nearby college, is a conservative Christian mom and was just named Top Ten in her field, for her county. But she teaches a skill, not bullshit. She puts up with nada.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:06 PM (lwiT4)

81 my name isn't really chavez. it's melvin flapdoodle.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 11, 2019 12:06 PM (KP5rU)

He's really Prince Harry. I know this to be a fact.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:07 PM (lwiT4)

82 "my name isn't really chavez. it's melvin flapdoodle."
-Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 11, 2019 12:06 PM (KP5rU)

Shut up, Melvin. I am Slapford J. Weasel and proud of it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Town Drunk at May 11, 2019 12:07 PM (Ckg4U)

83 >>Wasn't that also the timeframe when trying to unionize got you shot in the face by the National Guard?

Not the Guard...but those were the days, my friend.

Nothing American about Unions. Nothing at all.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:07 PM (Lz8qP)

84 Speaking of screwball Donk wannabes, they're reporting that Blotto is lying low and is preparing a spectacular re-introduction of himself to the electorate. I don't know what it'll be but, I'm calling it right now, it'll be stupid and offensive.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)

How many times did Hillarhoid "reintroduce" herself, to no effect?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:07 PM (AQVpU)

85
Beagle Boy "961-619" here!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:08 PM (pNxlR)

86 They still think they are smarter than everyone else, and of course, know "What Is Best" for the rest of us.

The kicker is they created there own little secret club.

Bet the meetings are in a tree house or a fort they constructed in thier bedroom.

Posted by: Charles Martel at May 11, 2019 12:08 PM (vZr7w)

87 78 my name isn't really chavez. it's melvin flapdoodle.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 11, 2019 12:06 PM (KP5rU)

Of the Sheboygan Flapdoodles?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 12:08 PM (Ct55T)

88
p.s. My name ain't really Burt.

My name really isn't winger.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:04 PM (lwiT4)

Likewise, my name isn't really Count.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 11, 2019 12:08 PM (q1Pj5)

89
At least they don't call themselves the Meeting of the Concerned.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 11, 2019 12:08 PM (TAmPV)

90 Nothing American about Unions. Nothing at all."

Hmm.

Thought that was about Ionization. And Unionization.

Next, you'll tell me a mole is a little animal...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:09 PM (6qErC)

91 Well, I guess I've been told.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 11, 2019 12:09 PM (KP5rU)

92 >>The kicker is they created there own little secret club.

You can be a member too, just eat this S'MORE out of Ben Shapiro's Asscrack!

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:09 PM (Lz8qP)

93 "Of the Sheboygan Flapdoodles?"
-Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 12:08 PM (Ct55T)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Town Drunk at May 11, 2019 12:09 PM (Ckg4U)

94 Wasn't that also the timeframe when trying to unionize got you shot in the face by the National Guard?

And those promoting unionization were themselves thugs who brutalized those who didn't want to unionize?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:09 PM (AQVpU)

95 "I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."

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Speaking of screwball Donk wannabes, they're reporting that Blotto is lying low and is preparing a spectacular re-introduction of himself to the electorate. I don't know what it'll be but, I'm calling it right now, it'll be stupid and offensive.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)

There seems to be some rumbling that he should have come out as gay, or at least a big supporter of LBGTQRSTUV.

Watch for a college sex tape... grainy (is that REALLY him?), with him and some of the boys. To be leaked and therefore blamed on you awful hobophobe Rethuglicans so shame on you.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:09 PM (cY3LT)

96 84 Speaking of screwball Donk wannabes, they're reporting that Blotto is lying low and is preparing a spectacular re-introduction of himself to the electorate. I don't know what it'll be but, I'm calling it right now, it'll be stupid and offensive.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)

How many times did Hillarhoid "reintroduce" herself, to no effect?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:07 PM (AQVpU)

Next time out, he'll be "Robert Francis Maria Ortega y Rodriguez del Paso"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 12:10 PM (Ct55T)

97 I have no sympathy for these people. If they are so ignorant that they can't see the obvious parallels between current behavior on our campuses and Nazi Germany or Communist China, then they are too stupid to help and deserve what they got.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2019 11:30 AM (wYseH)

This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:10 PM (AQVpU)

98 The comments here are eye-opening. People decrying thought-bubbled liberals while announcing they have no idea what the IDW is, and/or just blindly taking the word of other people.

Shapiro is part of the IDW; like him or don't, he's clearly a cultural conservative. Dave Rubin is quite vocally an EX-liberal, turned libertarian. Jordan Peterson is arguably the central figure of the IDW, and he's not even mentioned here. Rubin and Peterson quit Patreon out of solidarity with Sargon of Akkad, and they're all very critical of the totalitarians both on campus and in tech, much moreso than most in the GOP.

I mean, jeez, some of you need to get out of your silos.

Posted by: Sam at May 11, 2019 12:10 PM (UOBj4)

99 p.s. My name ain't really Burt.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

*Scratches name off list*
Shit, back to square one.

Posted by: Special Agent REDACTED, Sooper Genius, FBI at May 11, 2019 12:10 PM (hFbrr)

100
Bet the meetings are in a tree house or a fort they constructed in thier bedroom.
Posted by: Charles Martel at May 11, 2019 12:08 PM (vZr7w)

Pillow fort or blanket fort?

'Cause one of 'em's way harder to reduce than the other!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:10 PM (pNxlR)

101 And those promoting unionization were themselves thugs who brutalized those who didn't want to unionize?"

And why should someone be so violent over ionization anyway? Sheesh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:10 PM (6qErC)

102 heheheh.... i still can't get over "Alfred E. Newman"....

Spread some Kerrygold on it, this dude's campaign is toast.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 12:12 PM (Ct55T)

103 while announcing they have no idea what the IDW is"

and don't really care. However, it's fun to mock those who hold themselves as our superiors.

Tres fun...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:12 PM (6qErC)

104 I'm sorry. "Intellectual" and "liberal" together is an oxymoron.

Not to mention "honest."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:12 PM (AQVpU)

105 p.s. My name ain't really Burt."
-----------------
Roger that...
Posted by: Bob from the NSA at May 11, 2019 12:05 PM (6qErC)

Dammit! How did you you? All this time, I thought you were fake too.

Oh well, might as well change my nic now.

Posted by: RogerTC at May 11, 2019 12:13 PM (cY3LT)

106 87: Almost. Port Warshington Flapdoodles.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 11, 2019 12:13 PM (KP5rU)

107 Kerrygold. Butter so nice it's twice the price!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 11, 2019 12:13 PM (q1Pj5)

108 I read about these guys, and immediately thought lol get fucked.

Posted by: Roy at May 11, 2019 12:13 PM (ABjxW)

109 Posted by: Sam at May 11, 2019 12:10 PM (UOBj4)

Got an example of a commenter doing precisely what you claim?

Also, Jordan Peterson is mentioned in the article, not to mention is in the fucking picture up top.

Did you have an accurate observation to make, or did you just feel like playing Commenter Badass?

Posted by: Special Agent REDACTED, Sooper Genius, FBI at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (hFbrr)

110 My name isn't really Wrecks. It's what I do, not who I am.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (+y/Ru)

111
A scolding! Wow!

I've listened to Shapiro, Rubin, Peterson (who is in the picture) and one or two others, buster. I'm through with Shapiro. Rubin is still on my playlist. Peterson is an intermittent broadcaster at best.

Having said that, so what?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (pNxlR)

112 >>Shapiro is part of the IDW; like him or don't, he's clearlymaking his living off of a carefully crafted image of a cultural conservative.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (Lz8qP)

113 Off, crusty FBI sock.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (hFbrr)

114 The biggest scam in "credentials" is IT related certifications. It's 100% BS. It's nothing more than a money making scheme for the software giants who dole out the "certs". $100-200 to take the exame and then $1000+ for the course to teach people how to pass the exam.

And on top of it, every H1B with that cert got the answers from someone else.

And yet employers always want candidates with the certifications. Everyone knows it's a sham, but everyone still pretends the certs mean something.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (FiUMj)

115 So do these guys sit around in coffee shops wearing black turtlenecks and snapping their fingers to a dude playing bongos in the corner?

What's old is new again.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (0tfLf)

116 My name actually is long for "R".

Posted by: Roy at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (ABjxW)

117 Next, you'll tell me a mole is a little animal...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:09 PM (6qErC)

And if it quarks like a duck, it must be a goose.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:15 PM (cY3LT)

118 I'm glad they have a website, because I want to join!
BTW whatever happened to the Christakises, the profs who were hounded out of Yale, I believe?

Posted by: Disillusioned Liberal at May 11, 2019 12:15 PM (qlTN9)

119 America right wing leader IDW nake zero sense.

America right wing people straight, white, Christian, like trump, avoid drugs and call each other Conservatives and friends. IDW is gay, drugged out, atheist or jewish, some Canadian, who barely tolerate the right, call themselves liberals and hate Trump.

In Japan, Japanese people lead by Japanese leaders who like Japanese and are Japanese. Makes sense - America IDW make NO sense.

Also, should Midget Shapiro for Milkers Shapiro. Much Improve!

Posted by: Shogun Pikachu - Keeping Japan SJW free at May 11, 2019 12:15 PM (IM3Id)

120 *looks up from jerking off over my girthy list of youtube subscriptions that are cooler than yours just long enough to shake an angry fist at my lessers*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 12:15 PM (Ct55T)

121 If I didn't make snap judgments, I'd have no judgments at all.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:16 PM (lwiT4)

122 I saw the BBC thing and don't see how Shapiro got pwned or whatever. The BBC guy was being a dick and Shapiro called him out.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 11, 2019 12:16 PM (FiUMj)

123 Shapiro is part of the IDW; like him or don't, he's clearlymaking his living off of a carefully crafted image of a cultural conservative.
Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:14 PM (Lz8qP)

I've always had the impression that Shapiro is a guy who read a lot of books, saw how "cool" the Republicans of the 80s were, and decided to be that.

No substance behind it.

Just the image.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:16 PM (cY3LT)

124 Next, you'll tell me a mole is a little animal...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:09 PM (6qErC)

Technically, it's a shit-ton of something, and tastes good on chicken.

Posted by: Roy at May 11, 2019 12:17 PM (ABjxW)

125
Let's face it, the IDW won't be a "thing" until Hollywood announces plans to produce films to populate an "IDWverse".

I await what will be their superpowers and snazzy costumes with bated breath.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:17 PM (pNxlR)

126 So do these guys sit around in coffee shops wearing black turtlenecks
and snapping their fingers to a dude playing bongos in the corner?

Maynard G. Krebbs is in that group? I might have to pay attention.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:17 PM (lwiT4)

127
"If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."

Hmmmm. No EPA, no income tax, no gun laws, no Federal Reserve, senators elected by legislatures...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:17 PM (X3lUd)

128 They can take their little IDW club and stick it up their asses.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 11, 2019 12:17 PM (H8QX8)

129
heheheh.... i still can't get over "Alfred E. Newman"....

Buttigieg blew it when he didn't respond with " what,me worry."

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 11, 2019 12:18 PM (TAmPV)

130 121 If I didn't make snap judgments, I'd have no judgments at all.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2019 12:16 PM (lwiT4)

All my judgments are Vel-Cro.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 12:18 PM (Ct55T)

131 Tank Abrams is saying the Russians are going to take over the country by 2030
1) why should we care if there is only 12 years left anyway
2) is she only mad about the Putin government and wouldn't if it was the Communism years

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 12:18 PM (BbGew)

132
My name isn't actually Hadrian. But you must still address my as "Your Holiness".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (X3lUd)

133 >>They can take their little IDW club and stick it up their asses.

That comes after the Hot Tub and Cigars.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (Lz8qP)

134 >>Tank Abrams is saying the Russians are going to take over the country by 2030

Good thing Trump is colluding with them then. He'll be too old to carry on.

Posted by: Roy at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (ABjxW)

135 98. Yes Jordan Peterson is mentioned in the article. My problem with these thought leaders is my skepticism of their willingness to fully embrace Trump - because that's the only way to fight the speech police. Suppose GEOTUS invited IDW to the White House - would they show up?

Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (oTIO6)

136 Any of you understand the Guilliani/Ukraine thing?He was gonna go now he's not? He got the Dems all in a tizzy .. What is going on?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (O2RFr)

137
Tank Abrams is saying the Russians are going to take over the country by 2030

She has the chops to make such bold pronouncements. Let's see how that works out for her.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:20 PM (pNxlR)

138 136 Any of you understand the Guilliani/Ukraine thing?He was gonna go now he's not? He got the Dems all in a tizzy .. What is going on?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (O2RFr)

Stray Voltage, methinks.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 12:20 PM (Ct55T)

139 If I didn't make snap judgments, I'd have no judgments at all.
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Please, don't say "snap". It's...triggering.

Posted by: Thor, ~~Lord~~ God of Thunder at May 11, 2019 12:20 PM (IFKOp)

140 Hmmmm. No EPA, no income tax, no gun laws, no Federal Reserve, senators elected by legislatures...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:17 PM (X3lUd)

no air conditioning...fuk dat

Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 12:20 PM (ykq7q)

141 Stray Voltage, methinks.

Either he's brilliant or he's nuts

Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2019 12:20 PM (O2RFr)

142 So, Mayor Buttplug, Trump seems to think "making America great again" means going back to the 80s, what say you, Mayor, when was American great?

"I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."

I think he meant a time before AIDS.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:20 PM (AQVpU)

143 So, Mayor Buttplug, Trump seems to think "making America great again" means going back to the 80s, what say you, Mayor, when was American great?

"I say again, America was never all that great. At least not in our lifetimes. If you want to find a time when America was great, you have to go all the way back to the 1890s."

Mean longevity in 1890: 45 years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:21 PM (AQVpU)

144 >>>133 >>They can take their little IDW club and stick it up their asses.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (Lz8qP)

________
Been there done that. We're not scared.

Rubin openly made it his lifestyle

Posted by: Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan & Jordan Peterson at May 11, 2019 12:22 PM (IM3Id)

145 I'm sorry, but it's hard to take the IDW at all seriously after Ben Shapiro's disastrous BBC interview. I feel some measure of leniency in grading- it really is impossible to win when the other guy controls the camera- but wow, it was bad. The interviewer quotes Shapiro as saying that Jews love to build, and Arabs love to roll around in their own sewage. Benny protests that he meant the Hamas leadership, the interviewer quotes the part explicitly saying nope, all Palestinians. Benny absolutely melts down, calling the interview with a nobody and claiming the interviewer is only in it for the shekels. Which is hiliariously similar to the dumber white nationalist arguments, but never mind.

I've seen and heard about tons of IDW events, but intellectually there is no real identity to act on beyond a very vague appeal to Western civilization. It's all lowest common denominator, clean your room stuff. Which is all well and good if you're selling SWPL books, not so much if you want to be the intellectual vanguard of a mass movement.

Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 12:22 PM (OnEJV)

146
Any of you understand the Guilliani/Ukraine thing?He was gonna go now he's not? He got the Dems all in a tizzy .. What is going on?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (O2RFr)

He said on Shannon Bream's show that he got word that some bad actors in Ukraine might be trying to set him up.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 11, 2019 12:22 PM (TAmPV)

147 Tank Abrams is saying the Russians are going to take over the country by 2030

And as Democrats go, she's an "intellectual" and a "thought leader."

Also makes some mean pancakes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:22 PM (AQVpU)

148 >>Any of you understand the Guilliani/Ukraine thing?He was gonna go now he's not? He got the Dems all in a tizzy .. What is going on?

Guilianni was trying to bolster the confidence of the new Ukrainian Regime to continue their internal investigation into Obama/Biden influencing their prosecution of BeauBiden/Russian Oligarch/Pay to Play scandal.

Apparently, he was informed that he would be walking into a setup where he would be exposed to some nefarious Ukrainians and would be duly embarassed and his purpose negated/obscured.

He can get the same thing done from home.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:22 PM (Lz8qP)

149 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:17 PM (X3lUd)

no air conditioning...fuk dat
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 12:20 PM (ykq7q)

I don't really pay all that much attention to this stuff, but I think... think, much of the 19th century was considered a mini-ice age. Temp highs not quite what they became in the 20th century.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:23 PM (cY3LT)

150 Donald J. Trump Retweeted
Ned Ryun @nedryun
13h
Love how Comey and Baker trying to get out there ahead of FISA report. But sorry, boys. Barr doesn't give a rip about public opinion. If you broke the law, and Im pretty sure you did, prison is a real possibility.
*******
HMMMMM now why would PDT retweet this if "Nothing was going to happen"

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 11, 2019 12:24 PM (BqBId)

151
Tank Abrams is saying the Russians are going to take over the country by 2030

Ironically her favorite cocktail is a Black Russian.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 11, 2019 12:24 PM (TAmPV)

152 Tank Abrams is saying the Russians are going to take over the country by 2030

Joe McCarthy nods.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:24 PM (AQVpU)

153 And if you're not liberal that's fine too--listening will show you that true discussion is still possible.

--

I like that.

You listen while you see how true discussion works.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:24 PM (RD/6H)

154 So little Benny had a bad interview? I can't stand his whinny voice

Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2019 12:24 PM (O2RFr)

155
I think he meant a time before AIDS.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

One can only grimly laugh at the Sodomite Lobby screaming that Reagan was killing them all for not coming up with a cure while simultaneously expressing horror at the idea that screwing promiscuously was a factor and maybe they shouldn't.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:25 PM (X3lUd)

156 I can't stand his whinny voice

Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2019 12:24 PM (O2RFr)

It is a little horse.

Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 12:25 PM (ykq7q)

157 Bet the meetings are in a tree house or a fort they constructed in thier bedroom.
Posted by: Charles Martel at May 11, 2019 12:08 PM (vZr7w)

With a mispelled sign that says: "No girls allowed."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:26 PM (AQVpU)

158
156 I can't stand his whinny voice

Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2019 12:24 PM (O2RFr)

It is a little horse.
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 12:25 PM (ykq7q)

Well, he is only this many hands high * gestures *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:27 PM (pNxlR)

159 Which is all well and good if you're selling SWPL books, not so much if you want to be the intellectual vanguard of a mass movement.
Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 12:22 PM (OnEJV)

I genuinely appreciate guys like Jordan Peterson and Milo and Loomer and yes, even little Ben, going into the dens of the left, and battling it out.

But it's mostly just theater, and paying gigs. For them.

If people are looking for true leaders of a movement, it's generally not going to be happening in groups like this. They're doing their thing, and that's fine.

But Mike Pence and AG Barr have done more good for the conservative movement, in just a few years time, than all these folks will do in their whole lifetimes.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:27 PM (cY3LT)

160 I see the Dems are all in a tizzy too about PDT and the 4th of July Celebration.
He may speak to the nation.
AWESOME!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2019 12:27 PM (0tfLf)

161 You have the right to free speech as long as you're not
dumb enough to actually try it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 11, 2019 11:49 AM (Z+IKu)

Angela Davis, 1970: "Of course the Party supports free speech. You're free to tell the truth. You're just not free to tell lies."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:28 PM (AQVpU)

162
With a mispelled sign that says: "No girls allowed."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:26 PM (AQVpU)

"Cooties for thee but not for we"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 11, 2019 12:28 PM (pNxlR)

163 Willowed below:

Yes, the time before the '80s was a wonderful time to come of age and be
on a certain southern college campus where the girl-guy ratio was even better
than Surf City! Not two, but three swinging coeds for every guy! And all you had to do was just wink your eye.

Post-pill, pre-AIDS, and bushy, bushy, blonde hair pubes.
Surf's Up!

*gets whisper in ear* The 1880s? Hell, don't know nothing 'bout that.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 11, 2019 12:28 PM (q1Pj5)

164 Being from Georgia I bet Tank Abrams can make a few good southern dishes, at least she looks it.

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 12:29 PM (BbGew)

165 164 Being from Georgia I bet Tank Abrams can make a few good southern dishes, at least she looks it.

May not make them but she sure does eat them

Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2019 12:29 PM (O2RFr)

166 Q: What do gay horses eat?

A: "Heeeeeyyyyyyy!" *said in a mincing and melodic manner*

Posted by: Warai-otoko knows this joke doesn't work in text form, so shut up. at May 11, 2019 12:30 PM (Ct55T)

167 One can only grimly laugh at the Sodomite Lobby screaming that Reagan was killing them all for not coming up with a cure while simultaneously expressing horror at the idea that screwing promiscuously was a factor and maybe they shouldn't.

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And now it's become a noble, honorable death, a dead badge of courage, and the same people who lurvs them some gay people with AIDS will march in the street to demand an end to gun violence and homicides.

You know. The gun injuries and deaths that yield almost exactly the same numbers as new HIV/AIDS cases and AIDS deaths annually.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:30 PM (RD/6H)

168 The comments here are eye-opening. People decrying thought-bubbled liberals while announcing they have no idea what the IDW is, and/or just blindly taking the word of other people.

Shapiro is part of the IDW; like him or don't, he's clearly a cultural conservative. Dave Rubin is quite vocally an EX-liberal, turned libertarian. Jordan Peterson is arguably the central figure of the IDW, and he's not even mentioned here. Rubin and Peterson quit Patreon out of solidarity with Sargon of Akkad, and they're all very critical of the totalitarians both on campus and in tech, much moreso than most in the GOP.

I mean, jeez, some of you need to get out of your silos.

Posted by: Sam at May 11, 2019 12:10 PM (UOBj4)

So many of the IDW pass themselves off as "conservative" thought leaders. Those guys listed are no more conservative than Cap'n Bill.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 11, 2019 12:30 PM (m79Dg)

169 One can only grimly laugh at the Sodomite Lobby screaming that Reagan was killing them all for not coming up with a cure while simultaneously expressing horror at the idea that screwing promiscuously was a factor and maybe they shouldn't.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:25 PM (X3lUd)

One of the biggest factors in spreading AIDS, at least in the Bay Area?

The refusal of bathhouse owners to change their practices/ policies, thereby promoting the rapid spread of the virus.

Even Randy Shilts in his poxy book that to some extent blamed Reagan (who I guess was supposed to drop everything to save the degenerates from the consequences of degeneracy) also blamed the bathhouse owners.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:30 PM (AQVpU)

170 Being from Georgia I bet Tank Abrams can make a few good southern dishes, at least she looks it.

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 12:29 PM (BbGew)

lard pie

Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 12:31 PM (ykq7q)

171 Dave Rubin is quite vocally an EX-liberal, turned libertarian.

Libertarianism is every bit as intellectually bankrupt as liberalism.

So he's 0 for 2.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:31 PM (AQVpU)

172 Tank Abrams so fat and dumb she stand outsidda Waffle House at 3 AM sayin "I'd like to buy a vowel, Pat!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 12:31 PM (Ct55T)

173 Sounds a lot like the Neoconservatives like Kristol and company in the early 2000's that ended up not being conservative at all.

The only issue they weren't "liberal" on was a spending trillions in the Middle East on dumb wars.

Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2019 12:32 PM (UfkIY)

174 Never protest in a small group (e.g. Abortion clinics). There is safety in numbers. The bullyboys won't mess with a crowd.
Posted by: JAS at May 11, 2019 11:51 AM (KOCKb)

It's the cops job to bust heads in the wrong thinker's crowd, at least in blue cities.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 11, 2019 12:32 PM (m79Dg)

175 You never heard of the ineffectual dork web?

Posted by: Quilp at May 11, 2019 12:33 PM (Bf3hj)

176 "viable ways to get an education while skipping the destructiveness and expense of academia?"

Well, much education can be had online for free, but many employers require 4 years of indoctrination in Orwellian institutions. (Comey Brennan Jarrett Obama ... KollegeKommieKids, who is promoting this kind?)
We need to remove the "credentialed" HaHavahd types from the seats of power, and install adults that have real world abilities. Different angles on argument from a new group marketing themselves as an IDW ... still the same church, different pew. imo

In the FBI for example, we got a like minded group of Harvard commies that could give "special handling" to cases involving their cartel (Hillary got the special team to special handle her crimes, Trump got them to attack him). The answer is not different academic argument, it is to promote from the field agents, those with street experience, not servants of the "elite". That applies to journalism as well.

Real independent thinkers with their own website income ... might have a future in implementing change. AoS deserves more market share ... PJ Watson may have to go independent ... already has some site in case he gets further blacklisting. And their are public servant types that have not been tainted by higher power ... I think Hannity had one agent on, saying how disgusting it is to hear Comey destroying "the institution" others worked hard at for decades. These are the voices of hands on experience we need.

The IDW might make some valid points along the way, but look more like New Coke to me, rebranding of the old theme ... as if all Truth comes from academic argument, not real world hustle. They just needed to come out with a new label. idk, didn't read it all.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2019 12:33 PM (Cus5s)

177 But Mike Pence and AG Barr have done more good for the conservative movement, in just a few years time, than all these folks will do in their whole lifetimes.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:27 PM (cY3LT)

Absolutely, yes. I sympathize with Milo, actually: boy went from riches to rags due to concentrated lying assault, and he's having to unlearn a lot of bad habits. I wouldn't call him my intellectual leader, but he has lessons to impart, and he's doing it without obvious financial backing, so good for him.

At the remains of the day, I would be impressed with Shapiro if he had half of Milo's integrity. "Yes, the Palestinians keep choosing leaders that leave them in squalor on the off hand chance they get to kill more Jews. I hold them in total contempt: why don't you?" But he keep backing away from his actual words, and the interviewer didn't even take him to task for advocating Israel ethnically cleanse the West Bank.

Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 12:33 PM (OnEJV)

178 >>The only issue they weren't "liberal" on was a spending trillions in the Middle East on dumb wars.

Nothiing dumb about killing Muslims in the ME.

The dumb part was trying to be friends with some of them.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:33 PM (Lz8qP)

179 You know. The gun injuries and deaths that yield almost exactly the same numbers as new HIV/AIDS cases and AIDS deaths annually.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:30 PM (RD/6H)

Plus, gun injuries and deaths are largely in the ghetto, and involve illegal weapons and gang disputes (outside of the poor innocent bastards who get caught in the crossfire between gang members).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:33 PM (AQVpU)

180 Being from Georgia I bet Tank Abrams can make a few good southern dishes, at least she looks it.

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 12:29 PM (BbGew)

We really only know that she can eat them. In mass quantities.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 11, 2019 12:34 PM (m79Dg)

181 160 I see the Dems are all in a tizzy too about PDT and the 4th of July Celebration.
He may speak to the nation.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2019 12:27 PM (0tfLf)

Of course they don't like that. It may cause some people to question Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: rickl at May 11, 2019 12:34 PM (sdi6R)

182 Umm, Dr. Jordan Peterson is hardly a liberal and he certainly isn't a Progressive, thank goodness.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 11, 2019 12:34 PM (HaL55)

183 The interviewer quotes Shapiro as saying that Jews love to build, and Arabs love to roll around in their own sewage.

And Shapiro backed off from this statement? Sounds like hammer/nail to me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:34 PM (AQVpU)

184 So many of the IDW pass themselves off as "conservative" thought leaders. Those guys listed are no more conservative than Cap'n Bill.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 11, 2019 12:30 PM (m79Dg)

For real: how is Shapiro different from Kristol? To me they're just the same lie, different packaging.

Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 12:34 PM (OnEJV)

185 Plus, gun injuries and deaths are largely in the ghetto

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Interestingly, I'm betting this is where the majority of new HIV/AIDS cases mysteriously occur, too.

(Off to check dot gov stats)

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:35 PM (RD/6H)

186 8 Hammer

"life changing event":

My own:

Around 1990, I felt like I got screwed out of a job due to... affirmative action. I finally DID get the position, when it came open again, thanks to the prominent man who hired me. THIS man kept an autographed copy of a book by Judge Bork on his desk!

I decided I had been behaving like the chicken who kept voting for Col. Sanders. Never again. And hereI am.

Posted by: mnw at May 11, 2019 12:35 PM (Cssks)

187

Assholes who spew that shit about America isn't or never was that great deserve a throat punch.

Here's a news flash--we are GOVERNED, not RULED, by a political system unique in this world.

Faithful adherence to that system, over time. has resulted in the most exceptional country on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people.

Along the way, we have met and overcome situations that have destroyed lesser governments.

And we've come out the better for it.

Off the soapbox now, and thanks for letting me rant.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 11, 2019 12:36 PM (KATBx)

188
Plus, gun injuries and deaths are largely in the ghetto, and involve illegal weapons and gang disputes (outside of the poor innocent bastards who get caught in the crossfire between gang members).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

People with poor impulse control, who persist in destructive habits. You know, Democrats.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:36 PM (X3lUd)

189 imo 'Conservative' is a sliding scale. I consider myself an Anti-Leftist and changed my registration from 'R' to unaffiliated due to RINO - Unhparty antics.

Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2019 12:36 PM (oTIO6)

190 To quote Gomer Pyle: Well gooollee.

"In 2017, 38,739 people received an HIV diagnosis in the US. The annual number of new HIV diagnoses remained stable between 2012 and 2016...

Black/African American gay and bisexual men accounted for the largest number of HIV diagnoses (9,807), followed by Hispanics/Latinos (7,436) and whites (6,982)."

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/
ataglance.html

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:37 PM (RD/6H)

191 The intellectual left is just trying to reverse the current trend of out-and-proud socialists.

They know this scares the rubes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 12:37 PM (yQpMk)

192 We really only know that she can eat them. In mass quantities."

"Red beans and rice didn't...."

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 12:37 PM (6qErC)

193 And Shapiro backed off from this statement? Sounds like hammer/nail to me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:34 PM (AQVpU)

As are most of the things the BBC called him on. I can see him backing away from ethnic cleansing, but the first step is to admit that your words are excessive, or ignorant, or evil. Ben keeps directing people to his list of dumb/ bad things he's said, but that's the problem. People want to hear what you have to say about it, not what your handlers put out. If you really want to be an intellectual renegade, stand by your actions, as Steve Bannon does.

Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 12:38 PM (OnEJV)

194
Well, I finished a plate of eggs, mushrooms and alligator and pork sausages. Time for more coffee.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:38 PM (X3lUd)

195 People with poor impulse control, who persist in destructive habits. You know, Democrats.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:36 PM (X3lUd)

Yep. People for whom the thought (if you'll pardon the exaggeration) is equivalent to the deed.

"What do I want? [whatever] When do I want it? RIGHT NOW."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:39 PM (AQVpU)

196 Well, I finished a plate of eggs, mushrooms and alligator and pork sausages.

One of these things is not like the other ones...

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 12:39 PM (yQpMk)

197 Well, I finished a plate of eggs, mushrooms and alligator and pork sausages. Time for more coffee.
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You just can't get good alligator in the PNW.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 11, 2019 12:40 PM (IFKOp)

198 I can see him backing away from ethnic cleansing

Shapiro advocated ethnic cleansing?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:40 PM (AQVpU)

199 Short people got no reason...

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 12:40 PM (yQpMk)

200 196 Well, I finished a plate of eggs, mushrooms and alligator and pork sausages.

One of these things is not like the other ones...
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 12:39 PM (yQpMk)

The mushrooms, as they are not an animal product.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 11, 2019 12:40 PM (NWiLs)

201 Assholes who spew that shit about America isn't or never was that great deserve a throat punch.

Here's a news flash--we are GOVERNED, not RULED, by a political system unique in this world.

Faithful
adherence to that system, over time. has resulted in the most
exceptional country on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people.

Along the way, we have met and overcome situations that have destroyed lesser governments.

And we've come out the better for it.

Off the soapbox now, and thanks for letting me rant.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 11, 2019 12:36 PM (KATBx)

Well said and worth repeating!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 11, 2019 12:40 PM (q1Pj5)

202 >>You just can't get good alligator in the PNW.

Most of what you see is actually just Emu meat that is branded as gator meat.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:41 PM (Lz8qP)

203 Nearly 200 comments and no one has referenced Ben Shapiro's sister's chest...
It's like I don't know you people.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at May 11, 2019 12:41 PM (RWSlt)

204
You just can't get good alligator in the PNW.

Posted by: Captain Obvious

Fisherman's Cove, Kenner, LA.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:41 PM (X3lUd)

205 197 Well, I finished a plate of eggs, mushrooms and alligator and pork sausages. Time for more coffee.
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You just can't get good alligator in the PNW.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 11, 2019 12:40 PM (IFKOp)

All I have to do is walk out my front door, club one over the head and drag it into my kitchen.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 11, 2019 12:41 PM (NWiLs)

206 >>The mushrooms, as they are not an animal product.

But they are Packed to the Gills with nutrition!

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:41 PM (Lz8qP)

207 Gewgaws is a word not used enough.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 12:42 PM (yQpMk)

208 >>All I have to do is walk out my front door, club one over the head and drag it into my kitchen.

This is solid Dating Advice, right here.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:42 PM (Lz8qP)

209 You just can't get good alligator in the PNW.

Posted by: Captain Obvious

Fisherman's Cove, Kenner, LA.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:41 PM (X3lUd)

Florida woman's yoga pants.

Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2019 12:42 PM (ykq7q)

210 >>Florida woman's yoga pants.

You should never wet brine gator.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:43 PM (Lz8qP)

211 Nearly 200 comments and no one has referenced Ben Shapiro's sister's chest...

It's like I don't know you people.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at May 11, 2019 12:41 PM (RWSlt)

That's the chest buried on Oak Island?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 11, 2019 12:43 PM (q1Pj5)

212 Posted by: irongrampa at May 11, 2019 12:36 PM (KATBx)

Well said and worth repeating!
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 11, 2019 12:40 PM (q1Pj5)

Sure sure, but just to set the record straight (pun intended), the quote above, from Mayor Buttplug, is not real. I made it up. So I could make a "gay 90s" joke.

I do appreciate the fact that these things take on a life of their own, however, so don't let me try to stop anyone from arguing about which decades were the best.

I'm off to do things. Non-internet things, I mean. Have fun, everybody.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2019 12:43 PM (cY3LT)

213 Well, I finished a plate of eggs, mushrooms and alligator and pork sausages.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:38 PM

Time for a bottle of scotch

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 12:43 PM (BbGew)

214 Black/African American gay and bisexual men accounted for the largest number of HIV diagnoses (9,807), followed by Hispanics/Latinos (7,436) and whites (6,982)."

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/
ataglance.html
Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:37 PM (RD/6H)

So more than nine times the incidence of whites, when normalized for population. Wow. I knew it was higher, but not THAT much higher.

I've heard some people ascribe the difference to the difference in rates of incarceration.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:43 PM (AQVpU)

215 Dark web morons know it's not Ben's sister.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:44 PM (RD/6H)

216 Shapiro hates Trump and his digs at him are downright stupid at this point. Peterson signed with CAA and sold Judge Kavanaugh down the river. The rest don't strike me as guys I'd wanted covering my six in a firefight.

I'm a Candace Owens fan. She hits the Left where it hurts and doesn't let up.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 11, 2019 12:45 PM (H8QX8)

217 https://lidblog.com/biden-corruption-hillary-collusion/

This gets snow balling in the Propaganda Ministry it's all over for Creepy Uncle Joe

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 12:45 PM (BbGew)

218 Come election time I bet the IDW will back some Third Way cocksucker like that plastic hair head from Utah.

Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2019 12:45 PM (oTIO6)

219
So more than nine times the incidence of whites, when normalized for population. Wow. I knew it was higher, but not THAT much higher.

The CIA. Again!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:45 PM (X3lUd)

220 IDW before the gardening thread...

I Dream of Weeds?

1 Dick Wakanda

I Don't Wannaknow.......................

look at my TOO_LIPS!!

Posted by: saf at May 11, 2019 12:48 PM (5IHGB)

221

I knew the Left was tearing down Tiger Woods for making President Trump look good, i.e., not snubbing the president, but I didn't know until now that Fake News CNN spread a rumor during the ceremony that Tiger and President Trump were engaged in a business deal.

Fake News CNN went on to "report" that the medal ceremony for Tiger and Trump was actually an "advertisement" for a Trump golf course in Dubai designed by Tiger.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 11, 2019 12:48 PM (WNnWU)

222 Well, I finished a plate of eggs, mushrooms and alligator and pork sausages.

In Florida, alligator belongs in your pants.

Posted by: Florida Woman at May 11, 2019 12:50 PM (EgshT)

223 I knew the Left was tearing down Tiger Woods for making President Trump look good, i.e., not snubbing the president, but I didn't know until now that Fake News CNN spread a rumor during the ceremony that Tiger and President Trump were engaged in a business deal.

Fake News CNN went on to "report" that the medal ceremony for Tiger and Trump was actually an "advertisement" for a Trump golf course in Dubai designed by Tiger.

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Must've worked out well for the Trumpster. Bombshell from the Bee:

Trump Awards Medal Of Freedom To Legendary Golfer Happy Gilmore

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 12:51 PM (+y/Ru)

224 Black/African American gay and bisexual men accounted for the largest number of HIV diagnoses (9,807), followed by Hispanics/Latinos (7,436) and whites (6,982).

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I've heard some people ascribe the difference to the difference in rates of incarceration.

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I'm sure that plays a role, but I'd be surprised if that many black and hispanic men were gay/bisexual. Or maybe they are. You'd have to actively work to get to those numbers, and they separate the straight cases. Only 1700 black men got it that way.

Don't miss that there is not a white male, heterosexual number given. If you read the numbers on the column and do some quick guesstimates it's under 1000 (one thousand) cases a year. And that apparently includes hispanics, so actual white-white numbers are probably under 500.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:52 PM (RD/6H)

225 Shapiro advocated ethnic cleansing?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:40 PM (AQVpU)

Yuuuuuuuup.

https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2003/08/27/
transfer-is-not-a-dirty-word-n976781

I mean, he's since said the idea is stupid and immoral, so I guess it's great, but there have to be conservative figures that don't have a record of ordering population "transfers." I don't even think I would mind if he was a local Israeli intellectual: they're super pissed, and with good reason. But the thing about being promoted well beyond your abilities ever since you were 16, is that you tend to make huge, glaring mistakes. And they're coming back to haunt him.

Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 12:52 PM (OnEJV)

226 Who's the guy on the right side of the picture? Looks like Christian Slater.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 11, 2019 12:54 PM (m79Dg)

227 I'm sure that plays a role, but I'd be surprised if that many black and hispanic men were gay/bisexual. Or maybe they are. You'd have to actively work to get to those numbers, and they separate the straight cases. Only 1700 black men got it that way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:52 PM (RD/6H)

So ... intravenous drug use, then?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:54 PM (AQVpU)

228 OT question. I have a back neighbor that has a huge tree right at the fence line. He's sorta an asshole. When Dad replaced the fence about 12 years ago, he built it around the tree which is encroaching on this property. Actually on the utility easement. Tree is dead as a door nail and about 60 + feet tall. I have this horrible feeling its going to blow over onto my property.

Any ideas how to rectify that? I had to go talk to the guy last weekend bc his sprinklers were shooting through the fence and flooding my yard.

Posted by: Infidel at May 11, 2019 12:54 PM (yBXUJ)

229 >> Shapiro advocated ethnic cleansing?

Like you could clean Muslims.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:54 PM (Lz8qP)

230 My name isn't actually Hadrian. But you must still address my as "Your Holiness".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 12:19 PM (X3lUd)

So does that mean that you don't have a wall either?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 11, 2019 12:55 PM (nVq7R)

231 >>I'm sure that plays a role, but I'd be surprised if that many black and hispanic men were gay/bisexual.

You shouldn't be.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:55 PM (Lz8qP)

232 Any ideas how to rectify that?
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With a dead tree that big, your city may have something to say about it, as a safety violation.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 11, 2019 12:56 PM (IFKOp)

233 Yeah, I figure druggies or sleeping around with free or paid whores.

Could you imagine the outrage at white privilege if that data was publicized? 300-500 (if that) new cases a year, and only because racism.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Whintle at May 11, 2019 12:57 PM (RD/6H)

234 "If we are to address this problem and rescue education, we first need
to distinguish between what I will call the classical and modern
variants. Classical education involves the acquisition of culturally and
scientifically useful knowledge, and fostering an ability to think
critically to further understanding. Modern education, on the other
hand, is accreditation by an officially sanctioned seminary." . . . .

The first item requires the acknowledgement of Objective Truth and the complete and total rejection of Postmodernism and cultural Marxism, specifically any sort of "gender/grievance/racist" studies.

It also should apply Christian religious study and its application in politics here in America. Most of our laws are based on the Ten Commandments along with the Golden Rule and have built the greatest and most fair nation in recorded history. The hows and whys of this astounding phenomenon needs to be studied so that its principles can spread around the world. Everyone should be aware of the blessings and benefits of freedom.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 11, 2019 12:57 PM (HaL55)

235 The left is pure writhing evil. They represent everything bad about humanity. They are thieves, rapists and murderers. May they all burn in hell.

Posted by: Chris M at May 11, 2019 12:58 PM (6XZdO)

236 Like you could clean Muslims.
Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 12:54 PM (Lz8qP)

I've found that hydrofluoric acid does wonders with removing pesky stains!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 11, 2019 12:58 PM (m79Dg)

237 Everyone should be aware of the blessings and benefits of freedom.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 11, 2019 12:57 PM (HaL55)

Or I could just beat everyone up and take all their stuff.

Posted by: Warai-otoko finally gets what "Progressivism" is all about at May 11, 2019 12:59 PM (Ct55T)

238 Tree is dead as a door nail and about 60 + feet tall. I have this horrible feeling its going to blow over onto my property.

Any ideas how to rectify that?
Posted by: Infidel at May 11, 2019 12:54 PM (yBXUJ)

Politely, in passing, mention the L word: "liability."

"Now I don't know if your homeowner's insurance covers liability for damage from trees falling over and such, but it might be a good time to check."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:59 PM (AQVpU)

239 Bisy backson.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Spirit Animal is Alfred D. Wintle at May 11, 2019 12:59 PM (RD/6H)

240
It turns out the IDW is mostly a collection of disillusioned liberals looking for a place to have honest conversation

In other words, they're getting bitten by the monster they helped to create and now they aren't happy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 11, 2019 01:00 PM (nVq7R)

241 The left is pure writhing evil. They represent everything bad about humanity. They are thieves, rapists and murderers. May they all burn in hell.
Posted by: Chris M at May 11, 2019 12:58 PM (6XZdO)

That includes mother rapers and father rapers.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 11, 2019 01:00 PM (m79Dg)

242 I had more thawed venison/pork sausage in the frig but went with just eggs with cheese .... venison is just not appealing to me. Never had gator, that I recall, despite being in New Orleans 14 years. Probably had it at some festival along the way, but don't remember.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2019 01:00 PM (Cus5s)

243 235 The left is pure writhing evil...
Posted by: Chris M at May 11, 2019 12:58 PM (6XZdO)

I'll second that.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 11, 2019 01:00 PM (H8QX8)

244 Babylon Bee crushes it again: "Ilhan Omar Blasts Israel for Refusing Palestine's Generous Gift of Rockets."

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 11, 2019 01:00 PM (ty7RM)

245 eggs, mushrooms and alligator and pork sausages. "

Pork stuffed 'gator?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 01:00 PM (6qErC)

246 Captain, hadn't thought about that. Would make me feel like a snitch, although we never voted to be incorporated. The city fkn council just decided. Hmmm.

Posted by: Infidel at May 11, 2019 01:01 PM (yBXUJ)

247 Pork stuffed 'gator?

Self-stuffed. It's natural and organic and all that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 11, 2019 01:02 PM (HaL55)

248 I have a question: why are these clowns meeting in meatspace? When you have as many people as that, it's frustrating because most people will have trouble getting a word in edgewise.

Much better to have something like the HQ, where anyone and everyone can have his say. Plus, no travel needed, and an instant transcript of the conversation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 01:02 PM (AQVpU)

249 Never had gator, that I recall, despite being in New Orleans 14 years.
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Gator = chicken+squid
If you can only choke down an exotic by battering and deep frying, it's not worth it.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 11, 2019 01:03 PM (ty7RM)

250 Self-stuffed. It's natural and organic and all that. "

Always wanted an "authentic" turduken...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 01:04 PM (6qErC)

251 Everyone should be aware of the blessings and benefits of freedom.

-
Freedom's just another word for no cable TV.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2019 01:04 PM (+y/Ru)

252 250 Self-stuffed. It's natural and organic and all that. "

Always wanted an "authentic" turduken...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 01:04 PM (6qErC)

Can't spell turducken without turd.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 11, 2019 01:04 PM (NWiLs)

253 Posted by: Infidel at May 11, 2019 01:01 PM (yBXUJ)
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No harm in contacting the city government to find out what your options are. Also, you might try calling your local arborists. No doubt, similar situations have occurred before; they might have some insight.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 11, 2019 01:05 PM (IFKOp)

254 Nood.

Posted by: HH at May 11, 2019 01:05 PM (mIJBI)

255 by battering and deep frying, it's not worth it."

Wait, what?

Clearly you've never been to the Texas State Fair.

They'd sell Delvac on a stick if one could batter and fry it...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 11, 2019 01:05 PM (6qErC)

256 It turns out the IDW is mostly a collection of disillusioned liberals looking for a place to have honest conversation

In other words, they're getting bitten by the monster they helped to create and now they aren't happy
Posted by: TheQuietMan

They're just another group of moderately lefty cucks that the media is going to prop up as "opposition". Like a younger, "hipper" George Will and Bill Kristol.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 11, 2019 01:05 PM (gkstg)

257 If you can only choke down an exotic by battering and deep frying, it's not worth it.

Oh, but it's good especially with a good hot sauce and a cold beer. It takes some care to cook right esltways it can get a tad chewy, but down here they been doin' it up right for generations. Just gotta find the right place.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 11, 2019 01:06 PM (HaL55)

258 Much better to have something like the HQ, where anyone and everyone can have his say. Plus, no travel needed, and an instant transcript of the conversation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 01:02 PM (AQVpU)

If you're rich and live in the same area, real life meetups have the advantage of sharing booze, plus being able to hear a voice and feel a personal presence. It's not nothing. But yes, I would saw my own arm off to escape a table with Shapiro and Harris. Yeesh.

Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 01:06 PM (OnEJV)

259 They're "intellectuals" and academics, so suppose it's to be expected that things will be over-determined, dramatic, etc. To have a "movement", or something, I mean.

They seem to be recoiling from the horror of thuggish, stupid, totalitarian behavior and mindset that they (finally) noticed arising from "their" "side" of things.

Pretty simple.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 01:07 PM (QDnY+)

260 I lament the fact that the word "intellectual" has come to mean "includes no overt fart jokes or dick jokes".

I mean, come on....

what's wrong with fart jokes and dick jokes?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 01:08 PM (Ct55T)

261
Education for Morons:

Everyone knows you can deny the long-form census and take the short one.

People don't know that if you're sufficiently evasive/hostile, the census taker will eventually refuse to come back altogether, because he feels threatened.

Morons in blue states like me should do this to reduce their power.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 11, 2019 01:10 PM (5aX2M)

262
Christophobic anti-religious hate bigot Sam Harris is no alternative to the other commufascists.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 01:11 PM (X3lUd)

263 Don't like Venison?

You are doing something wrong.

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2019 01:12 PM (Lz8qP)

264 They're just another group of moderately lefty cucks that the media is going to prop up as "opposition". Like a younger, "hipper" George Will and Bill Kristol.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 11, 2019 01:05 PM (gkstg)

The Coffee Party, part deux.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 01:13 PM (AQVpU)

265 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2019 12:31 PM (AQVpU)
Is Dave Rubin Jennifer's brother? I don't know any of these people except Joe Rogaine.

Posted by: clutch at May 11, 2019 01:16 PM (kiSdp)

266 I suppose their revulsion at totalitarian mindsets and behavior, and the assault on western civilization, is to be welcomed (of course).

But if their policy instincts and preferences are those that result in less freedom, prosperity, and security (best definition of "progressive" I've found), then their value/merit is marginal.

Of course it's important they get to advocate those policies without fear of baseball bats, job loss, etc. But with the certainty that their ideas will be savaged into oblivion, on a substantive basis. This isn't that complicated.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 01:17 PM (QDnY+)

267 No Dave Rubin is no relation to Jennifer.

And speaking as a straight man, he's prettier.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 11, 2019 01:18 PM (5aX2M)

268 Jen Rubin, Ben Shapiro. "Conservatives."

No.
Soulless grifters.

Jordan Peterson is also part of the globalist problem, not part of the solution. Check out his connection with the UN, and the things he's endorsed.

This whole Dark Web thing sounds like a non-event to anyone outside the Left.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 11, 2019 01:18 PM (Fxbk+)

269 The Coffee Party, part deux.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Wasn't Jon Stewart the figurehead of that? Huge cultural phenomena, that.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 11, 2019 01:19 PM (gkstg)

270 If you're rich and live in the same area, real life meetups have the
advantage of sharing booze, plus being able to hear a voice and feel a
personal presence. It's not nothing. But yes, I would saw my own arm off
to escape a table with Shapiro and Harris. Yeesh.

Yeah, but I'd love to have the opportunity to speak with Dr. Peterson. Dude is scary smart, a Christian but maybe doesn't know that fully yet, and is a big proponent of free speech and an opponent of Progressivism. He's debated Abby Shapiro's retarded brother before online. I didn't get the drift that they were very simpatico.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 11, 2019 01:20 PM (HaL55)

271
This whole Dark Web thing sounds like a non-event to anyone outside the Left.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Bukharinites vs. Stalinists

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 01:21 PM (X3lUd)

272 What a weird collection of people. I read the NY Times article, and no surprise, the author is very dismissive of most of the right-leaning people in the group. But it's such a strange group to begin with.

And then you throw Kanye West into the mix and I'm thinking, "intellectual?" Really?

Posted by: bluebell at May 11, 2019 01:22 PM (aXucN)

273 Gadflies, nobodies, standup comics, self-help book authors, and social media addicts...

*This* is your intelligentsia?

#LOLGF

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 01:24 PM (Ct55T)

274 They're just another group of moderately lefty cucks that the media is going to prop up as "opposition". Like a younger, "hipper" George Will and Bill Kristol.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 11, 2019 01:05 PM (gkstg)

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Yeah, they're liberals. But they don't pretend to be otherwise, like the cucks.

And I see it as a phenomenon related to the "Left Pole." It's the opposite side of the coin of the GOP's cuckoldry. As the Dems embrace the positions of the NPC base, they find every person in the Party who isn't racist, sexist, and fascist drifting away.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 11, 2019 01:25 PM (5aX2M)

275

I'd suck their brains out with a straw, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at May 11, 2019 01:25 PM (qKSXo)

276 121
If I didn't make snap judgments, I'd have no judgments at all.

Born under a bad sign ...

Posted by: Jack Bruce at May 11, 2019 01:27 PM (vWMNq)

277 And then you throw Kanye West into the mix and I'm thinking, "intellectual?" Really?

Yup. Kanye out-weighs most of them.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 11, 2019 01:30 PM (vWMNq)

278 You won't make much money selling sinks to people who don't have running water.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - black slaves invented cooking at May 11, 2019 01:31 PM (07se2)

279 You would think that intellectuals would have some kind of record of achievement. Instead, it is more like a club membership.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:31 PM (yQpMk)

280 I have zero affinity to the modern incarnation of liberalism, not matter how it sometimes manages to camouflage itself. Yes, false hope manifests itself from time to time when a blind liberal finds a nut but that is invariably the exception rather than the rule. Call me permanently jaded and I shall concur, wholeheartedly

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 11, 2019 01:32 PM (EgshT)

281 Honestly, between the fart jokes we have as much intellectual give and take as any of these conclaves.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:32 PM (yQpMk)

282
Instead, it is more like a club membership.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member

Like the Mensa Society. People congratulating themselves.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 01:32 PM (X3lUd)

283 My LinkedIn is an intellectual dark web

Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2019 01:33 PM (Ga991)

284

IDWs secret handshake involves thumbs and bungholes

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at May 11, 2019 01:33 PM (qKSXo)

285 I've just about gotten the mancave straightened up.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:34 PM (yQpMk)

286 281
Honestly, between the fart jokes

I dunno. The fart jokes themselves are probably competitive.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 11, 2019 01:34 PM (vWMNq)

287 Next, the shop. Then, maybe, I can go get some recoil therapy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:35 PM (yQpMk)

288

Revulsion towards venison generally comes (in my experience) from improper handling after harvesting.

We have rules about care after shooting, immediately gut the animal, being careful not to damage the anal glands or the ureter, if there's snow, pack the body cavity full to cool it.

We use atv's to get the meat back to a cool room quickly.

No matter who butchers the deer, it is deboned. Takes more time, but worth it, as the bone marrow is very strong and WILL flavor the meat.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 11, 2019 01:36 PM (KATBx)

289 Do any of these Leftists have calloused hands and dirty fingernails?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:36 PM (yQpMk)

290 286 281
Honestly, between the fart jokes

I dunno. The fart jokes themselves are probably competitive.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 11, 2019 01:34 PM (vWMNq)

We put the "rude" in "erudition"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 11, 2019 01:36 PM (Ct55T)

291 Grump, is your reloading set-up in the "cave"?

Have to do some 30 carbine and clean up my reloading bench, which is also the workbench.

And not that I have the spare time, energy, or focus to do it, but the bench could use a refinishing. It's one of those metal-framed benches with a nice butcher-block deck. Suppose I'll need to rent a sander to clean it off before putting new coating on it.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 01:37 PM (QDnY+)

292 Revulsion towards venison generally comes (in my experience) from improper handling after harvesting.

We have rules about care after shooting, immediately gut the animal, being careful not to damage the anal glands or the ureter, if there's snow, pack the body cavity full to cool it.

We use atv's to get the meat back to a cool room quickly.

No matter who butchers the deer, it is deboned. Takes more time, but worth it, as the bone marrow is very strong and WILL flavor the meat.
Posted by: irongrampa

Have you tried peppering the meat after field dressing?

Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2019 01:39 PM (Ga991)

293 Grump, is your reloading set-up in the "cave"?

In the shop, the mancave is where I annoy the wife by tweeking actions. But I'm still in the setting up and studying up phase on reloading. Still collecting dies etc as I can find them at reasonable prices.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:39 PM (yQpMk)

294 Plus, no travel needed, and an instant transcript of the conversation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yes. Transcripts.

Posted by: Bob, at NSA at May 11, 2019 01:41 PM (U7Mh9)

295 https://youtu.be/5tfyvjBpl-Q

I watched this segment with Jordan Peterson, and.... ouch. I get that he's not a Christian, and the idea of taking the world's evil and suffering upon yourself is pretty noble on the surface, but from a Christian perspective? That advice is literally suicidal. The world is dominated by Satan, his ingelligence is matched only by his malevolence, and without Christ your failure is guaranteed.

What's interesting is that Ben Shapiro immediately makes this exact point. Jordan then talks about Brothers Karamazov, and talks about the idea that Christ has set an impossibly crushing example for the rest of the world. Which of course misses the point of him being the son of God that no one can measure up to.

It becomes pretty clear that Jordan Peterson, whatever his other virtues, is badly informed about some basic Christian tenets.

Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 01:44 PM (OnEJV)

296 I want to go shoot my accidental M14S but I haven't had the chance to go over it for safety and lube it up. I will just take my SLR and a pistol or two.

The other thing I need to do is replace the bipod/grenadelauncher rig on my BM59. I found a BM62 gastube for it that doesn't have the grenade valve and sights so I can lighten up the front end of the rifle by at least half a pound if I don't put the bipod on it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:44 PM (yQpMk)

297 It's an occupation, the IDW doesn't do anything but monetize their endless babbling. Dave Rubin's been simultaneously preaching that "we're moving the needle" and whining about being silenced for at least five years.
Nothing these people do have accomplished shit.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 11, 2019 01:44 PM (4thlk)

298 Regarding Peterson:

https://tinyurl.com/y57bcjvk
Title: "Jordan Peterson Dismantled"
He may not be who you think he is. Just sayin'

Posted by: F. Lee Bailout at May 11, 2019 01:45 PM (0klD4)

299
the mancave is where I annoy the wife by tweeking actions

Actions not directed or supervised by the wife annoy the wife.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 01:45 PM (X3lUd)

300 OT question. I have a back neighbor that has a huge tree right at the fence line. He's sorta an asshole. When Dad replaced the fence about 12 years ago, he built it around the tree which is encroaching on this property. Actually on the utility easement. Tree is dead as a door nail and about 60 + feet tall. I have this horrible feeling its going to blow over onto my property.

Any ideas how to rectify that? I had to go talk to the guy last weekend bc his sprinklers were shooting through the fence and flooding my yard.
Posted by: Infidel

I would ensure any communication with him is recorded, do you have his email address? If not, send a letter or leave a note, and ask him to email you about the tree. Tell him your insurance adjuster had a problem with it.

Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2019 01:45 PM (Ga991)

301 and none of that will happen if I don't get my ass in gear so bbl.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

302 Grump, outstanding. That's more or less how I got set up. Approached it from the get-go as a game of reducing costs. Half of my gear was bought used - as you know, most reloading gear properly treated will outlast the owner by decades. Still snipe at local component private sales, when they're "distress priced". For my reloading style (replacing factory ammo at minimum cost), has worked worked out beautifully.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 01:46 PM (QDnY+)

303 "This whole Dark Web thing sounds like a non-event to anyone outside the Left."

Joe Rogan has more viewers than CNN. If you think they don't have reach, you're kidding yourself.

Posted by: Eddie at May 11, 2019 01:49 PM (UOBj4)

304

In the shop, the mancave is where I annoy the wife by tweeking actions. But I'm still in the setting up and studying up phase on reloading. Still collecting dies etc as I can find them at reasonable prices.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 01:39 PM (yQpMk)
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Drop me a line if you have questions, I'm always happy to help when I can.. Have you decided on a caliber to start with?

Posted by: Weasel at May 11, 2019 01:49 PM (MVjcR)

305 168

None of them other than Shapiro would describe themselves as conservative at all, let alone "conservative thought leaders." You're making things up.

Posted by: Eddie at May 11, 2019 01:54 PM (UOBj4)

306 Actions not directed or supervised by the wife annoy the wife.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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As the husband character in 'Roseanne' put it about his shop in the garage, where he went to escape his wife and daughters, "To get away from the clucking."

I feel compelled to post this with a cloaking bag over my head. The prudent thing to do.

Posted by: I didn't say it at May 11, 2019 01:58 PM (XOpTG)

307 Actions not directed or supervised by the wife annoy the wife.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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As the husband character in 'Roseanne' put it about his shop in the garage, where he went to escape his wife and daughters, "To get away from the clucking."

I feel compelled to post this with a cloaking bag over my head. The prudent thing to do.
Posted by: I didn't say it at May 11, 2019 01:58 PM (XOpTG)

===

I was never here. We never had this conversation.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 11, 2019 02:03 PM (EZebt)

308
It's why I enjoy mowing all four acres. It's productive, it's satisfying to see the results and no one bothers me while I do it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2019 02:04 PM (X3lUd)

309 135 You should be skeptical of their willingness to fully embrace Trump, because it doesn't exist.

But lesser-of-two-evils vote count just as much as enthusiastic ones. That's true of Bill Kristol sliding left, but also just as true of Dave Rubin sliding right. Given that some these people do in fact have very large audiences, would you rather have them say that they're holding their nose and supporting Trump, or say that they're holding their nose and supporting Buttigeig? They're Bill Clinton center-left types being driven out by the authoritarian left ... should they be welcomed in, or told to stay out?

Churchill was willing to put in a kind word for Satan if it helped him fight Hitler, but some of ya'll aren't winning to stop hating anyone a single notch to your left in order to fight the woke brigades. If you don't see the utility of even temporary or half-hearted allies, you don't really think you're in a war.

Posted by: Eddie at May 11, 2019 02:04 PM (UOBj4)

310 https://tinyurl.com/hxlejlf

Could this be made in today's environment?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 11, 2019 02:11 PM (ufFY8)

311 rhomboid- sand it then just put on a mineral oil, though your not eating off I suppose the wood will appreciate it.

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2019 02:11 PM (BbGew)

312 292 Jean

I met a moose hunter in Coldfoot, AK who takes a chainsaw with him when he hunts. He described his meat locker as "my trophy room."

Posted by: mnw at May 11, 2019 02:14 PM (Cssks)

313 268 Jen Rubin, Ben Shapiro. "Conservatives."

No.
Soulless grifters.

Jordan Peterson is also part of the globalist problem, not part of the solution. Check out his connection with the UN, and the things he's endorsed.

This whole Dark Web thing sounds like a non-event to anyone outside the Left.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 11, 2019 01:18 PM (Fxbk+)

DAVE Rubin.
This can't be said enough.

Posted by: m at May 11, 2019 02:14 PM (C7rlo)

314 Ah, Skip, glad you're here, definitely the one to ask about this issue.

I think its has some sort hard/clear coat to it - polyurethane? - that's how it came out of the factory, I suppose.

To my very uneducated way of thinking, considering that this surface sometimes sees fluids (gun-cleaning solvents, for example), or oil, shouldn't there be an impenetrable coating on it, like it has now?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 02:15 PM (QDnY+)

315 Ian Galt - and how about Newman's nuke song (damn, can't recall the title), which was very un-PC, and very funny, about furrin' countries, etc.?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 02:17 PM (QDnY+)

316 And Eddie you make a lot of sense.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 02:18 PM (QDnY+)

317 If you don't see the utility of even temporary or half-hearted allies, you don't really think you're in a war.

Posted by: Eddie at May 11, 2019 02:04 PM (UOBj4)

Well I'm not interested in having any of them thrust their tongue down my throat, but Jordan Peterson has earned quite a bit of praise around here, to name one example.

We used to have A Liberal AOS Reader, No Really as an occasional poster here. And he/she was treated civilly and worthy of debate.

I can't say he/she 'won' any debates, but wasn't flamed either. No personal insults, or very few.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 11, 2019 02:23 PM (Z4rgH)

318 The Randy Newman song is called "Political Science."
YouTube video here: https://tinyurl.com/j5cttmy

Always been one of my favorites.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 11, 2019 02:34 PM (S+f+m)

319 As far as needing to be rich to attend a moron meet-up, well I'm not rich and I organized one. It was a small deal-only about 10 people attended. We had dinner and drinks and I provided some door prizes.
I enjoyed myself but you didn't need a six figure salary to attend, Just the ability to buy dinner and a drink.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 02:34 PM (FSPNP)

320 If you don't see the utility of even temporary or half-hearted allies, you don't really think you're in a war.�

Posted by: Eddie at May 11, 2019 02:04 PM (UOBj4)�

The problem is, quite a few of them aren't "soldiers" in any real respect. Peterson came up with a really stupid idea for Kavanaugh to resign immediately after being confirmed, and Shapiro thinks he has the gravitas to "criticize" Trump. I can tolerate that, but it's impossible to note the rise of these men without also noticing systematic marginalization and even deplatforming of other, arguably more useful personalities (Alex Jones, Milo, Candace Owens, James Woods, Bounding into Comics). Ben Shapiro seems to think he is a gatekeeper in this regard. Believe him.

Allies I can have. Tonya Hardings, not so much.

Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2019 02:35 PM (OnEJV)

321 GnuBreed, I remember that commenter. Pretty good example of an intelligent person trying to claw their way out of their mostly inertial/inherited mindset.

But with that, cleaning and reloading to do, will check back and hope Skip (or any other wood-smart Moron) has put me some knowledge re refinishing a butcher block workbench deck. Even though that chore lies months in the future.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 02:35 PM (QDnY+)

322 Art Rondolet, that's it, gracias! Yep, one of the great ones, lyrics-wise. For Cold War/furrin policy geeks, especially.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2019 02:37 PM (QDnY+)

323 I'm going to kick them all in the cunt and then make my way to the chess thread.

Posted by: Fritz at May 11, 2019 02:40 PM (LuPts)

324 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 02:34 PM (FSPNP)

Unless, of course, you wanted to fly out to another state and join their meet-up and then it would cost some money.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 02:42 PM (FSPNP)

325 I've mowed the front yard and done all the edging and all the sweeping. Now I just have to mow the back yard. I'm mostly done.

Posted by: rickl at May 11, 2019 02:43 PM (sdi6R)

326

Kick 'em in the taco, Paco.

Posted by: M K Ultra at May 11, 2019 02:46 PM (UFLLM)

327 318
The Randy Newman song is called "Political Science."

YouTube video here: https://tinyurl.com/j5cttmy

Always been one of my favorites.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 11, 2019 02:34 PM (S+f+m)

Ha! Never heard it until now. Thanks!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 11, 2019 02:47 PM (ufFY8)

328 "... it's impossible to note the rise of these men without also noticing systematic marginalization and even deplatforming of other, arguably more useful personalities (Alex Jones, Milo, Candace Owens, James Woods, Bounding into Comics). Ben Shapiro seems to think he is a gatekeeper in this regard. Believe him."

Peterson and Rubin both quit Patreon after Sargon of Akkad was deplatformed. That's significant cash money they're walking away from. Joe Rogan has had Alex Jones on, and kinda sorta defended him when nobody else would. Rogan & Tim Pool gave Twitter Jack probably the toughest interview he's ever had. Peterson is no fan of Milo, but he's also pointed out where some of the attacks on him were unfair and dishonest. As a group, they're more invested in sticking up for marginalized voices/against big tech than is, say, most of Fox News.

Shapiro, the conservative, is much the worst of the group on this score. The others, though much more liberal, have no problem saying they disagree with (Milo/Jones/etc), but have an even bigger problem with the bannings and censorship.

Posted by: Eddie at May 11, 2019 02:47 PM (UOBj4)

329 IDW is the Intellectually Dark Web?

Nah bro, they are the Intellectually Dumb Web.

Posted by: Gmac - Winning never gets old, like me ... But I'm still winning dammit! at May 11, 2019 02:48 PM (qZdIZ)

330 Fenelon

I'd go to a MoMe in a heartbeat if three were one near St. Louis.

P.S. Chicago is not near St. Louis. I don't want to have to make an overnight trip. St. Louis/KC/Memphis would all work, though.

Posted by: mnw at May 11, 2019 02:55 PM (Cssks)

331 P.S. So would Indianapolis.

Posted by: mnw at May 11, 2019 02:59 PM (Cssks)

332 Posted by: mnw at May 11, 2019 02:59 PM (Cssks)

Consider organizing one in your area. All you have to do is arrange for a restaurant that has a private meeting space. Sounds of these meetings seem sort of elaborate affairs over several days. The one we had lasted one evening.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 03:04 PM (FSPNP)

333 Illogical, Demented and Worthless. They can rot for all I care.

Posted by: WVinMN at May 11, 2019 03:09 PM (CRPBJ)

334 Head and humidity break.

I have little faith in any of the "thought leaders" to my left. Okay, truth be told, I have none.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 03:09 PM (yQpMk)

335 The IDW is criticized and often ignored by many on the right for lacking conservative purity. Personally, I believe they are a net positive in the arena of ideas. They are willing to state opinion and argue their positions, intelligently, usually, without losing their cool... unlike their fellow regressive leftists.

Posted by: Rich at May 11, 2019 03:11 PM (7M3cs)

336 Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying were respected tenured professors at Evergreen State College, where their Occupy Wall Street-sympathetic politics were well in tune with the school's progressive ethos.

So now I am to understand that they are more woke than they used to be? Evergreen State College makes Berkeley look like middle America and they were tenured there. Still asleep at the wheel like the majority of Academia

Posted by: Stacey's arm jowells at May 11, 2019 03:18 PM (wF8/p)

337 These people aren't allies. The only reason they would hold their nose to vote for Trump is that they don't have much air left.

Posted by: Spinach at May 11, 2019 03:22 PM (AfYvi)

338 Or:

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

They are not the solution we need.

Posted by: Spinach at May 11, 2019 03:50 PM (/jZjK)

339 "If you don't see the utility of even temporary or half-hearted allies, you don't really think you're in a war"Posted by: Eddie

I don't think academia will save us, and the battle is removing (political and social) power from them, returning more to Average Joe. But I do think some of the left could see the usefulness of Trump fighting the DeepState (permanent state, shadow government), regardless of their academic argument.

This guy is apparently a YoungTurk, but he has pointed out that Hillary had a Russia/Uranium one problem, so they fabricated the Trump Russia thing out of whole cloth. Old Uncle Joe is as corrupt as Hillary, whereas Trump is an outsider, real world guy. Some of the left may be catching on to that, at least. The left used to be as (or more) America First than the right, at least unions were, for their jobs.

Jimmy Dore on YouTube
https://tinyurl.com/yymrrg57

Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2019 04:09 PM (Cus5s)

340 Threads like this remind me why I don't come here much anymore. A thoughtful, balanced post, asking intelligent questions, followed by mostly comments that are either childish namecalling, or "anyone who disagrees with me is scum and I'd rather lose than have liberals vote for my candidate."

OK. Have fun with that prayer thread, y'all.

Posted by: Joe at May 11, 2019 04:13 PM (UOBj4)

341 Official Trump War Room @TrumpWarRoom
Biden: "I believe the fence is needed[because] people are driving across that border with TONS, TONS, hear me, TONS of everything from byproducts for methamphetamine to cocaine to heroin & it's all coming up through corrupt Mexico.'

Thanks for the support Joe!

BUILD THE WALL!

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 11, 2019 04:14 PM (BqBId)

342 http://bit.ly/2WyybRC
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Giuliani: I didn't go to Ukraine to start an investigation, there already was one - YouTube

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 11, 2019 04:16 PM (BqBId)

343 OK. Have fun with that prayer thread, y'all.
Posted by: Joe at May 11, 2019 04:13 PM (UOBj4)

The prayer thread is not really fun-It is a way to support people who are having various difficulties and pray for they and their loved ones, some of whom may comment on various threads or not. I guess your point is that people who can be silly and irritable and rude can't pray for others or that if you pray for others you have to be a perfect person, which I don't find in Scripture. I haven't been following this thread, so I don't know what your comments relate to, Joe and I'm sorry if you didn't feel welcomed. I expect you will find the same sort of insularlity on most threads related to politics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 04:33 PM (FSPNP)

344 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 04:33 PM (FSPNP)
*******
My Mom RIP told me "There was only 1 perfect person to walk the Earth, Everyone else has sinned & most a lot"

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 11, 2019 04:46 PM (BqBId)

345 Plus, I don't even see any other posts with a "Joe" as the handle. I do see at least one other same hashtag-Eddie, so why did you post under a different name, "Joe"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 04:48 PM (FSPNP)

346 Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 11, 2019 04:46 PM (BqBId)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 04:54 PM (FSPNP)

347 Whoops; Sorry. Jumpy computer

Yes, and if we all had to be sinless in order to pray no prayer would ever be said except by the Holy Spirit-which intercedes with signs too deep for groans. I believe God wants us to pray and knows we are sinners in need of his Grace.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 04:56 PM (FSPNP)

348 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2019 04:56 PM (FSPNP)
******
Yep

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 11, 2019 05:41 PM (BqBId)

349 Threads like this remind me why I don't come here much anymore.

Did that feel good?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 11, 2019 07:28 PM (yQpMk)

350 The important thing about these guys is that they are willing to talk about any topic frankly. That is sadly a position that is rapidly disappearing among what passes for our "intelligentsia" these days.

Posted by: Clean Willie at May 12, 2019 08:41 AM (TwCsL)

351 From the NYT article:

Eric Weinstein: "The IDW is great as long as we exclude those whose opinions I don't like."

Or something like that. The IDW has emerged precisely because viewpoints are being censored and the first thing this jerk wants to do is introduce censorship into the IDW movement. What a dumbass.

Posted by: Clean Willie at May 12, 2019 09:01 AM (TwCsL)

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