Wall Street Journal: Trump May Put Universities On the Hook for the Loans Its Students Take Out, and Incentivize Them To Make Sure Their Students Have Some Chance of Paying Back These Massive Sums

I'm pretty sure this is Authoritarian, Fascist, and Racist, because it imperils the left's phony-baloney jobs.

The White House is weighing a measure that would require colleges and universities to take a financial stake in their students' ability to repay government loans, an effort that could squeeze loan availability to students and reduce defaults.

For several months, Trump administration officials have been discussing enacting such a mechanism or making a push for one in Congress as part of a broader effort to combat rising college costs.

In the administration's budget proposal released Monday, officials made brief mention of a "request to create an educational finance system that requires postsecondary institutions that accept taxpayer funds to have skin in the game through a student loan risk-sharing program."

Such a proposal could be included in a coming executive order addressing higher education, several officials said...

The order the White House is preparing, expected in coming weeks and lead by the presidentís daughter Ivanka Trump, will likely touch on several hot-button issues in higher education, including a possible provision tying federal research dollars to rules about free speech on campuses, these people said.

The executive order would be signed with an ink produced by crushing up Viagra tablets and mixing them with panther blood and cobra venom.

SAS Motto: Who Dares, Wins.

The GOP has been timid, half-hearted, and corrupted by cowardice for too long.

It's time for l'audace.

There's a principle in chess. And poker. It's a simple principle: Always be attacking. Always. (Well, except for the times you can't attack because your opponent has executed that principle better than you have.)

In chess, when you attack, you reduce the number of possible moves your opponent can make (because he must make some move in response to the attack) and it is only by attacking that even high-level players can predict opponent moves and play three or even seven moves ahead. Without an attack, you leave your opponent with dozens of possible moves each move, which then become thousands of possible combinations over three or five or seven successive movies.

But by always attacking, you reduce the number of responses to a mere two or three per move, and you can evaluate which among them looks like the best response from the opponent.

In Poker, as they say, your two best moves in almost any situation are to 1, raise the bet, or 2, fold the hand. Calling is weak and passive and will lose you money. But if you make decisive moves -- fold a hand and put an end to the bleeding, or raise an opponent's bet and make him decide whether he wants to match the bet or just fold the hand -- you give yourself more chances to win (or, in the case of folding -- to lose cheaply).

The Republican Party is a party of weak poker players who believe in calling bets forever -- weak, passive play that never puts the question to the opponent -- and even of suddenly folding a hand when there's not even a bet at stake.

They call this "being reasonable," and they are very proud to string together dozens, sometimes hundreds of very reasonable defeats all in a row.

(From Wikipedia: Who Dares, Wins (Latin: Qui audet adipiscitur; ... French: Qui ose gagne; Italian: Chi osa vince; Portuguese: Quem ousa, vence; German: Wer wagt, gewinnt) is a motto made popular by the British Special Air Service. It is normally credited to the founder of the SAS, Sir David Stirling.)

BTW Wikipedia also included the Greek but there's no way this system is going to print Greek characters. But I'll include thrasos, a concept explained to me by Columbo in For Your Eyes Only.

Trump certainly has thrasos and l'audace. It's very much in doubt if he has the corresponding virtue of caution, but I don't think you can really have an abundance of both. I think your personality is set to either favor risk-taking, doubling-down, and aggression, or it's set to favor risk-aversion and mitigation, withdrawal from confrontation, and passivity.

The cucks kinda-sorta suggest that they're just as capable of showing some thrasos, some balls, some daring in the appropriate moment, while being all judicious and cautious the rest of the time, but I don't see any evidence that they can suddenly steel themselves and become something other than what they are. I see them being too scared to make bold and controversial moves all the time.

So, does anyone think the risk-averse, cautious cuck crew will suddenly show some thrasos and endorse this move? Or do you think they'll go with their usual timorous instincts and shy away from anything big and bold and likely to upset their leftist Twitter palz too much?

Likewise, I think people tend to either be very sensitive to other people's feelings about them -- in which case they are well-mannered, polite in disagreement, and generally "nice," but at the expense of not being assertive, combative when necessary, and ruthless in pursuit of their own interests.

And on the other hand, the people who do not really care about the opinions of others have much comfort in being assertive, combative, and unashamed in pursuing their own interests. They come off like assholes, yes, because the opposite of "nice and solicitous of the opinions of others" is "asshole who doesn't care what other people think."

I think this party is controlled by a lot of people who want to be "nice" all the time and not nearly enough people who can be assholes when needed.

I definitely do not believe that anyone can be "nice" 99% of the time but then go into Super-Asshole mode for just those few occasions that require it. I think your default setting controls your behavior almost all of the time.

So with Trump, with a lot of what the cucks call "flaws," I don't see them as flaws. I see them as different personality settings which yes, do have downsides associated with them -- but upsides as well, and further, I see the crap the cucks want ("let's be nice to all of our enemies and pretend the goals of the political contest are to show Who Is More Morally Upstanding rather than winning any tangible policy conflicts") has significant downsides too.

I don't believe you can Be Both. I don't think you can be All Things to All People. I don't think you can reinvent yourself moment-to-moment like Madonna doing costume changes in a 1985 show.

We may contain multitudes, but we don't contain an infinite number of personality permutations.

Nice is good. Nice is nice. It's nice to be nice.

But nice is also passive and frequently ineffectual. If your goal is just to be nice, then you can satisfy your goal of being nice by being nice.

But what if being nice is not your primary goal, or even a goal your rank very highly? What if your political goals are political in nature -- in that you want political victories from politcial contests, and not merely personal victories, like showing I'm Better Than They Are or Look At My Principles, Aren't They Shiny and Smooth from Never Actually Being Brought Into Any Fight?

We seem to have a major argument about what it is we actually want from conservatism in this moment. Some of us want actual tangible political conservative victories; some of us just want the personal validation of feeling like we did the Nice thing and lost like gentlemen (with our principles still pristine and without a single ding or scuff because we never risked them in a fight).


For the latter sort of person: Why even pretend you're involved in politics? If all you want is self-validation, buy some Tony Robbins tapes used on eBay and just play them to yourself every night. You don't have to pretend to be involved in politics when all you want is reassurance that you're a Really Good Person.

Just tell yourself You're A Really Good Person, like mantra. (Most of you guys seem to already do this; many NeverTrumper articles are about no other topic than the claimed Goodness of the writer.)

Why pretend this is in service of a political struggle, when it's obvious to everyone else (and it surely must at least be becoming obvious to you) that the "game" you are playing is simply to acquire I'm a Good Person chits.

Your actual fight isn't political; it's personal and psychological. You just want to tell people how very, very Virtuous you are, and you want your fellow Virtue-Mongers to emotionally validate you and tell you how virtuous you are in return for assuring them that they're virtuous.

Why dress this up with the pretense it's about policy, even remotely? The huge number of complete flips on "Eternal Sacred Conservative Dogma" that you guys have executed to show your Virtue proves that you're entirely uninterested in policy or political outcomes.

If we set up a site, call it The HugBox, where you could all publicly congregate and write endless, wordy posts about how virtuous you are, would you agree to stay in The Hugbox and leave the rest of us who still think things like But Gorsuch and But the Economy still matter alone?

BTW: They're not even "nice," of course. They just think that rumor-spreading and other indirect forms of attack are "better," somehow, than direct confrontation.

And they're only nice and respectful to those they believe are worthy of respect -- a group which mostly includes (surprise, surprise!) their leftwing twitter pals and MSNBC buddies.

Their colleagues at National Review? Not so much, it turns out.

But I will leave these immoral monsters with their delusions intact if they just get the fuck out of my party.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:21 PM




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1 The University System needs a Reckoning.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:17 PM (HvRkE)

2 Dennis Miller talked about this ages ago. If you don't teach someone something useful, well, they should not have to pay you back.

So... goodbye gender/queer studies and performance art PHDs?

Posted by: shibumi, recently married at March 12, 2019 05:17 PM (6vFO7)

3 This needs to be done. Massive loans to children is the worst form of child abuse imaginable.

Paul Janet showed us all that the time of our lives speeds up. 18 year-olds have no sense of how short their life will really be.

Posted by: jc at March 12, 2019 05:18 PM (PuMKG)

4 Next thing you know, nobody gets a grade lower than a C.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:18 PM (KOCKb)

5 fucking orange man. accountability is for the unwashed and uneducated. IMPEACH!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2019 05:18 PM (KP5rU)

6 Do it, DO IT NOW!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 05:18 PM (W+vEI)

7 The executive order would be signed with an ink produced by crushing up
Viagra tablets and mixing them with panther blood and cobra venom.


heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 05:19 PM (ptqGC)

8 From now on, I see a Red Tassle and I shoot the man wearing it!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 12, 2019 05:19 PM (HvRkE)

9 4 Next thing you know, nobody gets a grade lower than a C.
Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:18 PM (KOCKb)


That's pretty much true already.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 05:19 PM (oRUl9)

10 Trump? Executive order? Not so fast

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at March 12, 2019 05:20 PM (O2RFr)

11 No grants, loans only, prime plus 5 percent, not dischargable. Oh, and stop block grants to universities.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2019 05:20 PM (YslsA)

12 i don't always listen to jimi hendrix. but, when i do, so do my neighbors.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2019 05:20 PM (KP5rU)

13 The Hugbox is what I called the cruise ship, sob.

Posted by: Bill Krystol at March 12, 2019 05:20 PM (U2JQS)

14 Limit the number of students majoring in Women's Grievance Studies the way they limit Comp Sci students.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:20 PM (KOCKb)

15 What kind of Rotten Tomatoes score did this movie get?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 05:20 PM (Io8AJ)

16 L'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:20 PM (T6t7i)

17
Fucking charge !!

Posted by: Yo! at March 12, 2019 05:21 PM (1XAal)

18 Or in the case of the GOPe, "I don't wanna, it's scary".

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:21 PM (T6t7i)

19 Half of the law school deans in the United States suddenly have a serious puckering problem.

Posted by: The ARC of History at March 12, 2019 05:21 PM (I2/tG)

20 Next time I'd like less l'audace on my hamburger.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 12, 2019 05:21 PM (xPJvm)

21 Oh, almost forgot, defaults are the responsibility of the university to make good.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2019 05:21 PM (YslsA)

22 L'audace, l'audace, toujour l'audace

Posted by: Friedrich der Grosse at March 12, 2019 05:21 PM (RD7QR)

23 For the latter sort of person: Why even pretend you're involved in politics? If all you want is self-validation, buy some Tony Robbins tapes used on eBay and just play them to yourself every night. You don't have to pretend to be involved in politics when all you want is reassurance that you're a Really Good Person.
...
Your actual fight isn't political; it's personal and psychological. You just want to tell people how very, very Virtuous you are, and you want your fellow Virtue-Mongers to emotionally validate you and tell you how virtuous you are in return for assuring them that they're virtuous.

+++++++++++
Raucous applause from my corner, Ace.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:21 PM (I2dne)

24 After reading the Sarah Lawrence Diaspora Club demands in JJ's morning post, this cannot come soon enough! The activist kidz are demanding free everything - housing, food, toiletries, healthcare, even unlimited access to therapists of one's own ethnicity (and free rides to therapy :eek.


Adult daycare/current Lefty universities need to end.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 05:22 PM (W+vEI)

25 Finally, some common effing sense.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 12, 2019 05:22 PM (jUVms)

26 Can't we just print money to pay off those student loans?

Posted by: AOC at March 12, 2019 05:22 PM (MAstk)

27 This is not the hill to die on.

Posted by: Never Trumpers at March 12, 2019 05:22 PM (I2/tG)

28 Trump wants Universities to be somewhat financially responsible for their actions?



Hahahahahahaha!


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 05:22 PM (sy5kK)

29 Bah. Der pep got there first.

Posted by: Friedrich der Grosse at March 12, 2019 05:22 PM (RD7QR)

30 Make a list of the majors which are not needed. Then do not lend money to any student with any of those majors declared.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:22 PM (KOCKb)

31 unconstitionable. i'll burn the kollige down if you make me pay.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2019 05:22 PM (KP5rU)

32 >>The executive order would be signed with an ink produced by crushing up Viagra tablets and mixing them with panther blood and cobra venom.

SAS Motto: Who Dares, Wins.





Poetry, ace!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 05:23 PM (W+vEI)

33 1 The University System needs a Reckoning.
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:17 PM (HvRkE)


This.

Almost every part of the economy has been re-thought and re-structured. Except universities; they retain essentially the same structure they've had since the Middle Ages, when the first ones were founded. (Salerno, 9th century, IIRC. Oxford was a newcomer in the 12th century. New College, Oxford was founded in the 1300s.)

Universities are LONG overdue for re-thinking and restructuring.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 05:23 PM (oRUl9)

34 Horrible. Absolutely horrible. It is terrible that Trump would waste political capital like this rather than using it wisely to push through another 1/2 of 1% reducing in the corporate tax rates along with a 10% increase in H1-B visas...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 05:23 PM (wCmLp)

35 The Republican Party is a party of weak poker players who believe in
calling bets forever -- weak, passive play that never puts the question
to the opponent -- and even of suddenly folding a hand when there's not
even a bet at stake.



pfffffft. They aren't even in the game. They're in the corner drinking O'Doul's and eating cheetos.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:23 PM (T6t7i)

36 The Republican Party is a party of weak poker players who believe in calling bets forever -- weak, passive play that never puts the question to the opponent -- and even of suddenly folding a hand when there's not even a bet at stake.

Or you can dog-paddle.

Posted by: GOPe at March 12, 2019 05:23 PM (OE84+)

37 It"s TIGER blood and DRAGON venom.

Posted by: Venus at March 12, 2019 05:23 PM (lZaEn)

38 As I mentioned in the last thread, this will not be effective at fixing the student loan market.

However, if what you're actually looking for is a convenient flail with which to thrash one's Leftist enemies, this is a good one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 05:23 PM (AzW6q)

39 Hugbot 3000

Posted by: Moron Robbie, search engine expert at March 12, 2019 05:24 PM (xyung)

40 I would prefer to see the government out of the money-for-colleges business. If they're going to be in that business, however, this is a good step. They should also compel any college or university that accepts so much as one red cent of taxpayer money visibly and continuous adopt and enforce the Chicago statement on free expression.

Access to lots of filthy taxpayer lucre and government involvement in all aspects of life is *their* vision, not mine. I want the government out of the business. If the government is going to be in the business, though, turn the screws on them. Hard and deep.

They have sown the wind.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:24 PM (I2dne)

41 29
Bah. Der pep got there first.

Posted by: Friedrich der Grosse



That's what she said.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:24 PM (T6t7i)

42 How will we pay for all of our gender studies professors and diversity bureaucrats if we are on the hook for our students' loans?

This is self-evidently racist.

Posted by: Universities at March 12, 2019 05:24 PM (I2/tG)

43 Trump will be called "anti-Education" and accused of keeping poor and minority students from going to college.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (NFEMn)

44 What a follow-on post!

A bad day to be a college.

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (oTMWb)

45 Do it, DO IT NOW!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 05:18 PM (W+vEI)



I hope you said that with the Schwarzenegger voice. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (9Om/r)

46 Common sense student loan control.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, search engine expert at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (xyung)

47 38
As I mentioned in the last thread, this will not be effective at fixing the student loan market.


Why is that?

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (T6t7i)

48 The GOPe's poker strategery is to check to the dems first, to let the dems set the agenda, then fold.

Posted by: davidt at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (Pp8LH)

49 Unicorn Blood and Crushed Purple Skittles.

Posted by: Inks not used at March 12, 2019 05:26 PM (HvRkE)

50 there's only one party

you can't reason with people who are not motivated by reason

Posted by: simplemind at March 12, 2019 05:26 PM (U3Yhz)

51 Be nice.
Until it's time to not be nice.

Or something.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 12, 2019 05:26 PM (6qErC)

52 ace>So, does anyone think the risk-averse, cautious cuck crew will suddenly show some thrasos and endorse this move?

Shows thasos.

I have some, too.

Posted by: Some Hawaiian Judge at March 12, 2019 05:26 PM (OE84+)

53 48
The GOPe's poker strategery is to check to the dems first, to let the dems set the agenda, then fold.


Posted by: davidt



That's not fair. We finally got rid of Ryan, and now we have the brutal juggernaut that is.......Kevin McCarthy.

Never mind.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:26 PM (T6t7i)

54 The Republican Party is a party of weak poker players who believe in
calling bets forever -- weak, passive play that never puts the question
to the opponent -- and even of suddenly folding a hand when there's not
even a bet at stake.
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So that painting that shows all the Republican presidents--Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Ike, Reagan, etc. sitting around playing cards is a fake?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (NFEMn)

55 As I mentioned in the last thread, this will not be effective at fixing the student loan market.

Why is that?
Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (T6t7i)

They still owe the $$$.

$1.5T

With a T.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (OE84+)

56 Where is my F*in FABRIC SOFTNER? who do you racist mysogiyst MF'er expect me to learn my truth with itchy pants?

Posted by: Sarah Lawence students at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (U2JQS)

57 Make a list of the majors which are not needed. Then do not lend money to any student with any of those majors declared.

Federally financing of university students started as a way of subsidizing students majoring in critical areas during the Cold War - STEM, and certain defense-related foreign languages.

Then it got extended to everyone, of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (I2/tG)

58 Trump doesn't even have to go this far.

Just quit having the government guarantee student loans and put it all back in the private sector. Let the banks decide who is a worthy credit risk instead of letting them dump it all off on us.

I know that'll severely restrict loans and people going to college. So what? That should be the idea. One way to strangle financially Leftist scum.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (Io8AJ)

59 55
As I mentioned in the last thread, this will not be effective at fixing the student loan market.



Why is that?

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (T6t7i)



They still owe the $$$.



$1.5T



With a T.

Posted by: golfman


Ah. But it will limit the future damage.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (T6t7i)

60 As I mentioned in the last thread, this will not be effective at fixing the student loan market.

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It may or may not have a salutary effect. But not nearly enough of one.

But the real problem is, unlike other debt, student loans are protected from bankruptcy discharge.

As long as the government encourages every last person to go to school, and then protects lenders from those consequences, they'll keep on making the bad loans forever and ever.

However, making the colleges partially responsible for loan payments, paired with cutting research funding, will cause actual pain to them.

And that's cool with me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 05:28 PM (AzW6q)

61
Yeah those Alabama football players on "full rides" majoring in Advanced Cheerleader Molestation and Hookah Studies at the SEC Pro Football Combine and Oh, Yeah, Also "University" are definitely not denying a space to a serious student.


Definitely not.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 05:28 PM (LL1Be)

62 43 Trump will be called "anti-Education" and accused of keeping poor and minority students from going to college.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (NFEMn)


Go to the loan officer at your bank. If you can convince him you're a good bet, you're in.

If you can't, you probably don't belong in college anyway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 05:28 PM (oRUl9)

63 This is not the answer. It will only result in higher tuition.

get the government out of student loans and back to private lending institutions. Then let normal bankruptcy laws apply.

If a kid want's to spend $200k on a major in poetry, let him pay for it himself or let the bank take the risk.

Posted by: WisRich at March 12, 2019 05:28 PM (G0vdT)

64 With a T.
Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (OE84+)

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Fine, but isn't that the argument for not making it worse? For the country and the student.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 12, 2019 05:28 PM (jUVms)

65 It's this or the whole college should be free which would increase colleges monetary intake.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 05:28 PM (BbGew)

66 So... goodbye gender/queer studies and performance art PHDs?
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Let the school and student sort that one out. They will soon enough if the government quits underwriting the loans and allows discharge in bankruptcy.

Posted by: Drc at March 12, 2019 05:28 PM (vbaSG)

67 This is so much better than commie democrats' idea of giving free college tuition for everyone no matter how stupid the course of study that they select.
I love the Donald.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (+lVUW)

68 I would suggest that Trump ask the Dept of Education to cut about two thirds of the regulations on colleges. That would free colleges to get rid of thousands of redundant adminstrators, such as diversity departments, women's departments, minority deparments, etc. In 2019, you shouldn't need adminstrators to hand hold minorities or women.

The savings would be in the billions , which should allow the colleges to cut costs.

Yes, I know, to dream....

Posted by: Jen the original at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (nInlj)

69
If you can't, you probably don't belong in college anyway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Or join the military for a few years.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (T6t7i)

70 The executive order would be signed with an ink produced by crushing up
Viagra tablets and mixing them with panther blood and cobra venom.


Poetry.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (LL1Be)

71 So, make the "loans" loans again?

Posted by: Burger Chef at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (RuIsu)

72 Ace, in poker there's a principle called fold equity.

Basically, it means that your odds are better than they appear when you bet into an opponent because there's a chance he might just give up the hand.

It becomes particularly important in end-of-game play when the blinds are high. At some point when you have around 10x the Big Blind in chips, the only moves are to push all your chips in or fold. That's it.

Posted by: Warden at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (MZ8Zz)

73 Hugbox > Juicebox

Posted by: Czech Chick at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (J9wxX)

74 But, but what about those poor Rom/Com PHD candidates?

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (kzGg0)

75
Just quit having the government guarantee student loans and put it all back in the private sector. Let the banks decide who is a worthy credit risk instead of letting them dump it all off on us.




Easy to envision; impossible to pull off.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (sy5kK)

76 Tax the Endowments

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (HvRkE)

77 As I mentioned in the last thread, this will not be effective at fixing the student loan market.

Why is that?
Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (T6t7i)

They still owe the $$$.

$1.5T

With a T.
Posted by: golfman at Ma

It'll fix the problem of adding to the problem.

Student loan guarantees should be cut off IMMEDIATELY.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (Io8AJ)

78 The name of the movie ace is reviewing here is:

"Stop Taking It In The Shitter, GOPe Homos"

Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (G1fgw)

79 In 2019, you shouldn't need adminstrators to hand hold minorities or women.

You didn't need them in 1969 either. That's not the point.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (T6t7i)

80 Florence King once said that America would never get fixed until Americans overcome their habit of voting for pols whose eyes plead "Please like me."

The cucks' eyes plead "please like me."

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (d6Ksn)

81 Trump will be called "anti-Education" and accused of keeping poor and minority students from going to college.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 05:25 PM (NFEMn)
+++++++++++++
The best way to help would be to make college affordable. The government, however, has done what it always does when trying to solve an "affordability crisis" regardless of what it is: they threw money at the problem.

More dollars chasing a similar number of goods always has the same, predictable result: inflation. That the government thinks this *won't* happen is proof of their madness.

I put it on a prior thread, but none of this is the correct answer to the college costs bubble. Eliminate any and all government funding for the universities (at least federally, states can do what they want). Make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy again. Put the lenders *and* the borrowers back on the hook.

Students will look at the huge interest rates and increasingly say, "no bid." Lenders will look at the titanic risks and increasingly say, "no bid." The colleges will drop their prices and trim out the bullshit. A lot of colleges will go bankrupt, allowing them to be cleansed and reopened by others.

Just quit giving colleges and students pallets of cash and stop giving lenders special treatment and this problem will solve itself. This wouldn't solve the problem of universities being intellectual vacuums, of course, but it will solve the affordability problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (I2dne)

82 Excellent but still a quibble. The cucks aren't "nice" at all. You approached this but didn't quite get there. They solicit votes and audiences on the basis of professed beliefs or policy positions they want implemented. Then they are "nice" to the other side and fold. In fact, when "their" side calls them on this, they become quite nasty to "their" side.

They are liars, frauds, grifters and whores.
There isn't a nice bone in their bodies.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (iw59Q)

83
Since we're going with badass foreign mottos and such, we need to add two Finnish entries.

Sisu: loosely translated as intestinal fortitude, guts, or balls. But much more than that.

And even better is Hakkaa Paalle, which translates as "Hack Them Down"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (mNlmu)

84 Also, when you attack in chess, you put pressure on your opponent. Suddenly, they start making mistakes.

Posted by: WOPR at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (J70i0)

85 It's actually questionable whether Friedrich ever said that, although he may have; it's often credited to a French revolutionary named Danton, which is where Napoleon picked it up.

My favorite Friedrich quote of all was about what he thought of the languages that he used:
"I speak French to my Lovers, I speak Polish to my Servants, and I speak German to my Dogs."

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (Kpl3J)

86 >>Ace, in poker there's a principle called fold equity.


In marriage, too.

It's known as the 'Any Fold'll Do Clause'.

I employ it frequently.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (HvRkE)

87 I've been saying for a long time now that making the Schools cosigners on loans was the way to cut down on baristas with $100k + in student loan debt.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (ffYR/)

88 Go to the loan officer at your bank. If you can convince him you're a good bet, you're in.

A quarter-century ago, a bank set up a table at Sproul Plaza at the University of California, Berkeley, to distribute applications for cheap student-oriented credit cards.

A scandal ensured when it turned out that the bank processed the applications from engineering majors and other quantative majors, and threw out all the applications from liberal arts majors.

Posted by: The ARC of History at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (I2/tG)

89 I thought of a similar idea. Create a class actions suit suing universities for awarding degrees in made up fields that have not science or scholarship like feminist and gay studies. Similarly, I think the amount made available via student loans be tied to the average salary for which that major gets paid. It is insane to loan an 18-24 year-old $150,000 to get a degree that pays $28,000. Like getting a $500,000 loan on a $200,000 house.

Posted by: IanDeal at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (/ZJzH)

90 So what does the practicum for Advanced Cheerleader Molestation look like?

Posted by: Friedrich der Grosse at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (RD7QR)

91 Damn. My Anna Navarro's Husband sock fell off.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (HvRkE)

92 I've hammered this to death here, but the main problem is that in the past there was a shared set of unwritten rules of polite behavior, things which One Did Not Do or be shunned, lose power and influence, be ostracized, etc. It cost you to act in certain ways. Some of those rules were a bit arbitrary or nonsense, but they were all shared and understood, rules that were not laws per se, but simply behavioral and societal agreements.

The left has abandoned all of these, considering them weak or something which interfered with their goals. They have ignored all the unwritten rules for a while now and pay no price for it.

In a setting where only one side abides by these rules, then the side who does not, wins. They conquer by breaking the rules and violating everything for maximum personal advantage no matter what damage it does to society, honesty, honor, or truth. The lasting damage, they figure, can be fixed because they're smarter, better, more enlightened, and gosh darn it, people like them.

As long as the GOP continues to follow the unwritten rules which are no longer part of society while the Democrats do not, they will continue to suffer. This has nothing to do with fairness or propriety. Honor and propriety require both sides to carry out the system; when one does not, you're no longer required to be honorable toward them.

Propriety only has meaning or significance in a system where the rules are followed: then its proper. If they are abandoned, its no longer proper.

Until the GOP understands this, they will keep being the left's bitch. Trump gets this. They do not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (39g3+)

93 76 Tax the Endowments
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (HvRkE)

Yep. Harvard is all in favor of leftism. They need to start ponying up.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (d6Ksn)

94 Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (OE84+)

Gotta stop the bleeding though.

Posted by: clutch at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (kiSdp)

95 I think this is contrary to what all True Evangelical Calvinists can believe. At least, I'm pretty sure David French will tell us so.

As for Mandel and Kristol, all I can do is recommend sending them cases of Depends to try and keep their pants dry. Or a little dryer.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 12, 2019 05:32 PM (VaN/j)

96 Tax the Endowments
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (HvRkE)

The Paolo will be upset.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 05:32 PM (NFEMn)

97
May's fake Brexit plan FAILS.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (qBVKX)

98 Only thing shocking me is the Lori Laughlin daughter link didn't involve a stripper pole

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (BbGew)

99 Ah. But it will limit the future damage.
Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:27 PM (T6t7i)

Agreed.

Limit but not fix.

The GOP need to be eying the endowments like the left eye our 401k's.

And let's get those 403b's and 401a's while we're at it.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (OE84+)

100 Or join the military for a few years.
Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (T6t7i)


Yep.

People say they never used the stuff they learned at college. If that's the case, then you wasted your time, and a lot of money (first for tuition, and second from foregone wages).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (oRUl9)

101 Ahoy! all hands to the HugBox!

Posted by: Cuck Crew Kaptain at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (9oE3U)

102 While we're at it, get rid of tenure in K-12 and universities.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (+lVUW)

103 >>As I mentioned in the last thread, this will not be effective at fixing the student loan market.



Maybe it's not really about loans, or only partly so?

While this seems aimed at reducing tuition, it naturally forces *them* to radically reduce administration and meaningless courses in order to reduce costs/tuition.

I like it - make them drain their own damn campus swamps!!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (W+vEI)

104 I would suggest that Trump ask the Dept of Education to cut about two thirds of the regulations on colleges. That would free colleges to get rid of thousands of redundant adminstrators, such as diversity departments, women's departments, minority deparments, etc. In 2019, you shouldn't need adminstrators to hand hold minorities or women.

The savings would be in the billions , which should allow the colleges to cut costs.

Yes, I know, to dream....
Posted by: Jen the original at March 12, 2019 05:29 PM (nInlj)
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Here's the problem: the regulations are the minority part of the problem. Colleges *want* these legions of administrators, programs, facilities, subsidized student organizations, etc. It's how they virtue-signal to each other, ensure that the spaces within their walls is consistent and free of wrongthink, and entice students with all their great stuff.

Cutting off the money solves this problem. I am never opposed to regulatory reform, but the colleges love this stuff.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (I2dne)

105 I advise you to do what your Parents did, Get A Job Sir!

Posted by: The Big Lebowski at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (HvRkE)

106 Next thing you know, nobody gets a grade lower than a C.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:18 PM (KOCKb)

This is pretty accurate already. I've got roughly another year of school left and you'd have to be a complete moron to fail the majority of courses I've taken.

I've watched the faculty bend over backwards to make sure their students don't fail, and the problem is, most shouldn't be there in the first place.

There's currently a student in one class who can barely speak English but the professor won't tell the guy he needs to take a remedial English course for fear of offending him. The pc culture has really crippled education.

Posted by: Pine Barrens at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (oh+79)

107 It's all fun and games until some of the bitches on the faculty get kneecapped.

Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (LuPts)

108 Ace makes a great point about "nice".


I would not use that word to describe the Demo candidates, not even in the top 20.


I would use "mean", "stupid", anti-American", well, you get the point.


But in a battle to the end, they have a better chance of survival than the pansy-assed GoPe.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (sy5kK)

109
I can't even imagine starting out in life with a six figure negative worth. The first time I actually studied an amortization table I was like, 'Oh my gawd, am I ever fvcked.'

But snowflakes are smart.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (jYje5)

110 What are you talking about, Ace? I'm sure this system can render Greek letters.

Posted by: Συρφπηρξ at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (Tr9jL)

111 When student loans become the purview of government, putting students' butts into seats becomes big business.

Keep in mind that this principle is at work in healthcare as well. If someone else is paying for it you can be damn sure that that hospital administrator or physician will find a justification for putting that butt into the MRI scanner. what used to be one-sixth of the economy has become one-fifth of the economy in 10 short years.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (m45I2)

112 Iowahawkblog for the win.

Posted by: aelfheld at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (IxDhF)

113 Back in the day, I had a National Defense Student Loan (and grant).

Funny.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (KOCKb)

114 Thinks of all the money we could save on PP abortions because college kids aren't screwing and getting preggers. Win win.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (pUDQf)

115
After the Failure of her attempt to hoodwink the British citizens, May said it was the best and only deal available.

Sure it was.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 12, 2019 05:35 PM (qBVKX)

116 Until the GOP understands this, they will keep being the left's bitch. Trump gets this. They do not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (39g3+)
++++++++++
Yes. They have turned our world into a jungle. Drawing room rules don't work in the jungle.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:35 PM (I2dne)

117 ------------------------------------------------------------
So that painting that shows all the Republican presidents--Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Ike, Reagan, etc. sitting around playing cards is a fake?"

even though he usually comes in for a lot of criticism, all of US Grant's army pals agreed that he was one of the best poker players they ever met. Never betrayed even a tiny hint of emotion, no matter what he was holding.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 05:35 PM (Kpl3J)

118 I fucking love it. PDT has opened another front to gore another sacred cow.

Work for your welfare
Schools having to invest in the students they accept


Posted by: Ben Had at March 12, 2019 05:35 PM (5hE5B)

119 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (mNlmu)

Ah, that I what the Sisu bumper stickers where I grew up meant. Never knew that.

Posted by: clutch at March 12, 2019 05:35 PM (kiSdp)

120 92
....
Propriety only has meaning or significance in a system where the rules are followed: then its proper. If they are abandoned, its no longer proper.

Until the GOP understands this, they will keep being the left's bitch. Trump gets this. They do not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (39g3+)

Absolutely. While it is true that for society to function well, such rules must exist, and be overwhelmingly observed, we don't live in such a society. And the only way to get back there is to make it painful for them to continue flauting them.

But the Trans-Conservatives simply don't think things are that bad. They like the way things are. I increasingly think that's the problem. The believe "Hey, everything is great. You guys are messing it up. Stop it!"

Posted by: Eeyore at March 12, 2019 05:35 PM (VaN/j)

121 Just quit having the government guarantee student loans and put it all back in the private sector. Let the banks decide who is a worthy credit risk instead of letting them dump it all off on us.




Easy to envision; impossible to pull off.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 05:30 PM (sy5kK)

"Effective immediately, the United States government will no longer guarantee student loans."

There, that wasn't so hard, was it?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (Io8AJ)

122 Scott Walker had the guts to push through Act 10 in WI. The rest of the GOP was cowering like little girls behind him but he kept pushing and taking the arrows. Eventually they came around to support.

Now Evers is bent on taking it all down. I hope the Pubbies have learned a lesson.

Posted by: Pete Seria at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (7ZQe3)

Posted by: hogmartin at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (t+qrx)

124 Well done, Eeyore.

Now. Come to Me.

Posted by: Barrel at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (HvRkE)

125 For the General Education requirement (first two years) you pretty much have to loan students money. Once they choose a major, however, the loan should be based on probable ability to pay it back, based upon the major.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (KOCKb)

126 Only thing shocking me is the Lori Laughlin daughter link didn't involve a stripper pole

----

"There can be no separate college admission for [the] wealthy"

LOL. Yeah, right. Give $50 million to Stanford, and then see if they turn your kid down when he applies.

I'm sure Chelsea Clinton got into Stanford purely on the basis of her academic excellence.

Posted by: The ARC of History at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (I2/tG)

127 Oh, yes, just how long before our true Conserving Conservatives tell us this is Caesarism?

Posted by: Eeyore at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (VaN/j)

128 The Barrel is not a Hugbox.

Posted by: davidt at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (Pp8LH)

129 The Republican Party is a party of weak poker players who believe in
calling bets forever -- weak, passive play that never puts the question
to the opponent -- and even of suddenly folding a hand when there's not
even a bet at stake.


If you believe, as I do, that making laws and passing a budget is always secondary to protecting the Uniparty Congressional money train, their behavior becomes less mysterious.

Same with the cucks at the CuckShed.


It's not malicious. There's just not a high enough percentage in having integrity or giving a fuck.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (LL1Be)

130 And, to put it more bluntly: I don't care about fixing the system. I don't care if the loans are good, or work for the lenders or borrowers or the schools. None of it.

I hate the Left, and the Universities are a Leftist citadel. Put them on the hook for the loans they've been glutting themselves upon for decades. Withdraw their federal subsidies. All of them. No more FAFSA, Pell Grants, nothing. Start taxing their endowments at the capital-gain rate, with the whole nut taxed at year zero.

Trump should be looking at the Universities with the same steely gaze that Henry VIII had when he thought about all that Church land.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (AzW6q)

131 Now Evers is bent on taking it all down. I hope the Pubbies have learned a lesson.

LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 05:37 PM (O2RFr)

132 Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:31 PM (HvRkE)

Wait, wut?! Did you sneak off and get married behind my back?

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 05:37 PM (qll3d)

133 so goldberg or hayes, which is the one that does the ancient aliens show?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:37 PM (MTjB1)

134 ... the "game" you are playing is simply to acquire I'm a Good Person chits.

______


The Cucks will certainly be our betters when we finally adopt the Chinese Communist Social Credits system.

Posted by: ShainS -- 2020 Dem candidate promising free hookers and blow to all! at March 12, 2019 05:38 PM (AEe1m)

135 Do they even bother with career counseling in high school any more? Or is it an absolute given that the only way you're going to survive is to go to college and get your degree?


I suppose that's half true, now that they no longer seem to have any sort of shop classes in high school, so there's no way for a kid to know any better.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 12, 2019 05:38 PM (sLicW)

136 The Paolo will be upset.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 05:32 PM (NFEMn)

Well done.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 05:38 PM (OE84+)

137 Sponge

Posted by: FIRST!!!!! at March 12, 2019 05:38 PM (C1NyB)

138 Good piece Ace.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at March 12, 2019 05:38 PM (Dgce0)

139
Shorter Ace:

Tora! Tora! Tora!...




(...tsivan-lanu-Moshe, mo'rasha-kehilas-Yaakov,...)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:38 PM (zBaqJ)

140 Marriage?

Oh, hell no.

I lost my sock on that comment.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:39 PM (HvRkE)

141
So that's what the FBI is working on these days? A college admissions scandal?

PLEASE tell me someone tweeted if Eliz Warren would be charged for LYING on her college and law school forms about being an indian?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 12, 2019 05:39 PM (qBVKX)

142 92 I've hammered this to death here, but the main problem is that in the past there was a shared set of unwritten rules of polite behavior, things which One Did Not Do or be shunned, lose power and influence, be ostracized, etc. It cost you to act in certain ways. Some of those rules were a bit arbitrary or nonsense, but they were all shared and understood, rules that were not laws per se, but simply behavioral and societal agreements.

The left has abandoned all of these, considering them weak or something which interfered with their goals. They have ignored all the unwritten rules for a while now and pay no price for it.



--------------------

It's just how Communists roll.

Nothing new.

Question is, what are WE going to do about it? Because the Comms are coming!

Posted by: Cloud William at March 12, 2019 05:39 PM (sy5kK)

143 Posted by: Eeyore at March 12, 2019 05:35 PM

Put one of these at the end of your nic:

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after you return from the barrel, that is.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 12, 2019 05:39 PM (jYje5)

144 I can't even imagine starting out in life with a six figure negative worth. The first time I actually studied an amortization table I was like, 'Oh my gawd, am I ever fvcked.'

But snowflakes are smart.
Posted by: Newest Nic at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (jYje5)
+++++++++++
I graduated with $52k in debt. My total debt after my first year out of school (because I was stupid and bought too much car when I totaled my old one, plus a small amount of CC debt) was $63k.

I lived in constant terror of an emergency or a layoff. I saved enough to get me through a 3-month unemployment and then tackled the debt. It was like dragging around a millstone. I didn't change my living standard for years, even as I started earning more money. I did nothing but pay it off.

It was worth it, but it is absolutely terrifying and I was fortunate enough and smart enough to get a real job. If I hadn't, if I was one of these sociologist baristas, I'd still have that millstone and it would be bigger and heavier.

When I was going into school (I don't know if it's still this way, I suspect it is), student loans were pitched from all corners - from the lenders to the guidance counselors to the teachers to the colleges to your friend's parents - as a "good" kind of debt. Like a mortgage. It's an investment in your future. Not at all reckless like a credit card. This is a lie. A pernicious, dangerous lie.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:39 PM (I2dne)

145 Prussian sockoff

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 05:39 PM (RD7QR)

146 even though he usually comes in for a lot of criticism, all of US Grant's army pals agreed that he was one of the best poker players they ever met. Never betrayed even a tiny hint of emotion, no matter what he was holding.
Posted by: Tom Servo at M



not so hard to do when everything from your nose down is covered in whiskers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:40 PM (MTjB1)

147 Keep in mind that this principle is at work in healthcare as well. If someone else is paying for it you can be damn sure that that hospital administrator or physician will find a justification for putting that butt into the MRI scanner. what used to be one-sixth of the economy has become one-fifth of the economy in 10 short years.
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True. But the percentage of health care dollars that go to physicians remains a small part of the total. Even if you cut physician fees to 0, health care expenditures will only drop by 17%. 83% of the money goes to everything but the physician. That number is likely smaller in 2018 and 2019. And despite the continuing rise in spending, hospitals in rural Texas continue to BK almost weekly.

Posted by: Drc at March 12, 2019 05:40 PM (vbaSG)

148
More Patton. Less patent-leather.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:40 PM (zBaqJ)

149 Whaddaya mean I have to pay it back??? My mommy is a star and she paid for my seat in this skool!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 05:40 PM (0tfLf)

150 Well done, Ace. The people who are really scary are the "nice" people who then get mad about something. They're not used to being mad, and couple that with their belief that they are "nice" and reasonable people, and they tend to overreact when they do go to lay down the law.

Most law enforcement people will tell you that the rash shooter isn't the a-hole; it's the "hey, can't we all just get along?" guy who's now been punched in the face. The a-hole is used to these confrontations and keeps his wits about him. Mr. Nice Guy overreacts and starts firing.

Posted by: Ted K. at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (FJYfm)

151 Sisu: loosely translated as intestinal fortitude, guts, or balls. But much more than that.


I always wondered if the Life Aquatic of Steve Zissou was a play on that.


And even better is Hakkaa Paalle, which translates as "Hack Them Down"


Reminds of "che palle" in Italian. Such balls! It was never said to me in a good way.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (fuK7c)

152 High School Career Counselor? LOL. Many years ago, Parade Magazine would do an annual "What people make" article. I had to laugh. Would you take the advice of someone making $16,000 per year (this was 2004)? That's what some school district in Tenn. was paying the career guidance counselor.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (KOCKb)

153 106 Next thing you know, nobody gets a grade lower than a C.
Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:18 PM (KOCKb)
This is pretty accurate already. I've got roughly another year of school left and you'd have to be a complete moron to fail the majority of courses I've taken."

Like many here, I've got an ability for taking standardized tests (it's partly about understanding how they're written) and also like many here, I'm fairly well read, and I've made a standing bet with some people that I can take a standardized final exam (multiple choice) in any modern humanities course they want to name, without ever having gone to a class or cracked a book, and I could score at least a 70.

It's not because I'm so smart, it's because those tests are all so banal and predictable.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (Kpl3J)

154 Anytime some kid complains about student loans, remind them that the Army will repay the loans. See what the response is

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (aAyMm)

155 102
While we're at it, get rid of tenure in K-12 and universities.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (+lVUW)

This. Been screaming it. Imagine, that you can't be fired after a few years on the job. Whats the monetary value of that little perk? and yet the hero teachers who could have been millionaires like all those that work for private companies but instead selflessly chose to sacrifice their whole life for 'the children'. if only people realized this, appreciated their considerable worth to society, paid them more money and treated them like professionals.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (9oE3U)

156 The Barrel is not a Hugbox.


It most certainly is not.


And whatever you do, if you see a big blonde Bier Maiden in the Barrel named Inga, don't let her hug you. Because she's not a Bier Maiden, she's really not named Inga, and she's definitely not blonde.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (sLicW)

157
Felicity Huff's, man. Mostly on whippits.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (zBaqJ)

158 Do they even bother with career counseling in high school any more? Or is it an absolute given that the only way you're going to survive is to go to college and get your degree?

I suppose that's half true, now that they no longer seem to have any sort of shop classes in high school, so there's no way for a kid to know any better.
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 12, 2019 05:38 PM (sLicW)
++++++++++++
When I was in high school back around the turn of the century, this is how it was. They encouraged college - any college. They discouraged the military and trade schools.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (I2dne)

159 I don't know about that nice/assertive assessment. I can go into Bitch mode when something needs to be done but I try to be nice most of the time. Trump has the advantage of being a natural salesman and being good at getting other people on board with his plan initially but certainly he had to be able to go into the "DO this NOW" mode to avoid ruin in real estate and hotel business.

I very much like the plan to make colleges have some skin in the game as regards their graduates ability to earn a living and repay student loans.

Posted by: paleRider is simply irredeemable at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (eASYU)

160 While it is true that for society to function well, such rules must exist, and be overwhelmingly observed, we don't live in such a society. And the only way to get back there is to make it painful for them to continue flauting them.

Right, this is the tricky part, enforcing the system until they squeal, then going back to the way things need to be; can we make it back there again? How much does it take for them to learn? Its like war: if you do not fully and completely defeat an enemy, you'll have to fight them again. But in the process of fully defeating them, you have to take care that you aren't becoming the evil you are trying to destroy.

But the Trans-Conservatives simply don't think things are that bad. They like the way things are. I increasingly think that's the problem. The believe "Hey, everything is great. You guys are messing it up. Stop it!"

And for them everything is great. They are wealthy and powerful in this system. They probably are treated well, for the most part. Its every once in a while they find out the way the left is, with Kavanaugh for example. He was One Of Them and was treated wrong. They reacted very badly to that experience.

We're tasting that every day out here, but they aren't.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (39g3+)

161 Do they even bother with career counseling in high school any more? Or is it an absolute given that the only way you're going to survive is to go to college and get your degree?
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 12, 2019 05:38 PM (sLicW)


The counseling office at my high school (public, decent school, but not the swankiest in the city by a long shot) was basically there for you to choose a school and a major. Unless you were going straight into the military, it was assumed that you were going to college. I don't think there was any trades program.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (t+qrx)

162 The Barrel might not be much to look at, but once Ace finishes up with the shelving it will really be quite homey.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (HvRkE)

163 If we set up a site, call it The HugBox, ...

______


Is it too late to register the domain name www.hugcuckshed.com?

Posted by: ShainS -- 2020 Dem candidate promising free hookers and blow to all! at March 12, 2019 05:43 PM (Jt8Xd)

164

Why pretend this is in service of a political struggle, when it's obvious to everyone else (and it surely must at least be becoming obvious to you) that the "game" you are playing is simply to acquire I'm a Good Person chits.

So many Republicans seem only to be vying for the title of Miss Congeniality instead of standing up for America and truth.
Mittens Rombley springs immediately to mind. What a fucking waste of protoplasm.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 05:43 PM (HaL55)

165 high school counselor jobs were designed to warehouse souses.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (MTjB1)

166 Is it too late to register the domain name www.hugcuckshed.com?
Posted by: ShainS -- 2020 Dem candidate promising free hookers and blow to all! at March 12, 2019 05:43 PM (Jt8Xd)


No.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (t+qrx)

167 >>Do they even bother with career counseling in high school any more?


They told me I should be a Potter.

I insisted on being a Fire Truck. They gave up.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (HvRkE)

168 It was worth it, but it is absolutely terrifying and I was fortunate enough and smart enough to get a real job. If I hadn't, if I was one of these sociologist baristas, I'd still have that millstone and it would be bigger and heavier.

When I was going into school (I don't know if it's still this way, I suspect it is), student loans were pitched from all corners - from the lenders to the guidance counselors to the teachers to the colleges to your friend's parents - as a "good" kind of debt. Like a mortgage. It's an investment in your future. Not at all reckless like a credit card. This is a lie. A pernicious, dangerous lie.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:39 PM (I2dne)


I have about $22k left to pay off, and I know exactly when my last payment will be (April 2022). I hate that I had to take on the debt for grad school, since I had all my undergrad loans paid off, but I will say that it allowed me to change careers to something that I wanted to do and got me out of the defense contractor world.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (wCmLp)

169
The Barrel might not be much to look at, but once Ace finishes up with the shelving it will really be quite homey.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (HvRkE)


The Keurig will be nice, too. Only those won't be K-Cups.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (ptqGC)

170 It's an investment in your future. Not at all reckless like a credit card. This is a lie. A pernicious, dangerous lie.

And on the flipside, if you are a victim on the SJW totem-pole, or can run a FO-FO Fawty and catch a ball, you can be given "scholarships and grants" that waive all that nasty money that rule-following, taxpaying, studious non-SJWs have to pay.


But there is definitely not a 'two-tiered' educational system.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (LL1Be)

171 "This isn't the hill to die on!!!" says every TRUE CONSERVATIVE in an endless field of smoking craters that used to be hills.

Posted by: TRUE Conservative at March 12, 2019 05:45 PM (BvNzB)

172 high school counselor jobs were designed to warehouse souses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (MTjB1)


Wait, is this universal? Because with a sample size of one... yes.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 12, 2019 05:45 PM (t+qrx)

173 SAS changed it's motto in 2016. Trump wins. Be like Trump.


I think my schadenboner is going to give Cher and that GA Dem legislator fits.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 05:45 PM (t6MX/)

174 >>There's a principle in chess. And poker. It's a simple principle: Always be attacking. Always.

Pressure will bust a pipe as they say and it's true. Applying pressure makes your opponent a reactionary and leads to mistakes. Buddy Ryan's entire defensive philosophy was predicated on pressuring the quarterback. Buddy asked hall of fame quarterback Y.A.Tiddle about the best strategy for defending the pass and he said "if you give me enough time, I'll find someone to throw it to. What gets me is when you bring that pressure".

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 12, 2019 05:45 PM (4e+hS)

175 While you're there, see if you can find my car ke-

Oh, sorry, I thought you said Hugebox.

Posted by: davidt at March 12, 2019 05:45 PM (Pp8LH)

176 the only way to run a keurig in the barrel is to make a circuit with a taser, a moron, and a keurig.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:45 PM (MTjB1)

177 Ace, here's a link that will help your blog achieve it's full potential:

http://tinyurl.com/kq2s

Posted by: Συρφπηρξ at March 12, 2019 05:45 PM (Tr9jL)

178 I went to an expensive liberal arts school, got a useless degree, owe $100,000, and am mired in debt.

This is the fault of capitalism.

Posted by: Millenials at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM (I2/tG)

179 Nice guy? I don't give a shit!

Good father? Fuck you! Go home and play with your kids!

Posted by: Blake at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM (datdl)

180 102 While we're at it, get rid of tenure in K-12 and universities.
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 12, 2019 05:33 PM (+lVUW)


For K-12, definitely.

For universities, I have mixed feelings. Faculty members can benefit from protection for being fired for controversial views. Think, e.g., Arthur Jensen, whom Berkeley would have fired in a heartbeat for his publications on IQ and race. Of course, tenure also protects leftist agitators, but a better way of dealing with that problem is to can entire departments (when tenure does not apply).

The other aspect is, as I have seen, STEM faculty sometimes just burn out. They worked their asses off to get a faculty position, and then to get tenure, after which they go for a while longer before just gradually burning out entirely on research. (Not to be confused with laziness.) Some of them focus on teaching, or on writing textbooks, while some go into administration,* but firing them seems a bit harsh, much like cutting off veterans after their service would be.

Now it must be said, some just do f-all, but they're generally held in contempt by their colleagues, which has to hurt.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM (oRUl9)

181 >>>Basically, it means that your odds are better than they appear when you bet into an opponent because there's a chance he might just give up the hand.

right that's what i was getting at. You have a chance of winning just by making your opponent react. calling his bet does not make him react.

Posted by: The Fiercely Heterosexual Cory Booker, Looking for a Side-Boo at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM (PbpT7)

182 Wait, is this universal? Because with a sample size of one... yes.
Posted by: hogmartin at M




lol. yes. we had many and they were all souses.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM (MTjB1)

183 This is the principle behind playing 'small ball' in baseball.


Force action. Reap the results.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (HvRkE)

184 My mom was seriously pissed when the High School counselor told one of my older brothers that he didn't have to go to college. That was in 1969.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (KOCKb)

185 When I was in high school back around the turn of the century, this is how it was. They encouraged college - any college. They discouraged the military and trade schools.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (I2dne)


Ditto.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (wCmLp)

186 I have about $22k left to pay off, and I know exactly when my last payment will be (April 2022). I hate that I had to take on the debt for grad school, since I had all my undergrad loans paid off, but I will say that it allowed me to change careers to something that I wanted to do and got me out of the defense contractor world.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (wCmLp)
+++++++++++++
It can be worth it. For the right major, a change in prospects, whatever - it is not *always* a bad choice. It was and it wasn't for me. I studied a trade, but I ended not working in it for very long because I couldn't afford my student loans doing that work - though my secondary skills I acquired at college did help me get what is now my career.

The problem I see on the demand side of the equation is that every voice I heard was telling me that student debt was good, totally worth it, and essential and that it isn't really something to worry about.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (I2dne)

187 If you've got kids going to college, I can't recommend the Pre SAT enough. National merit semi finalists and finalists get full rides to a lot of schools(you can look up lists online).

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (hJHKc)

188 Thankfully the high school my cousin's daughter is attending is advising students about both going to college and not going to college: that either choice is valid and that each student should prepare a future with both choices, to see what looks best for them.

Because at this point I think going to college is the worst choice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (39g3+)

189 ace, I don't think "timid, half-hearted, and corrupted by cowardice" is all, or even most, of the explanation of GOP behavior.


THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT, OR SUPPORT, THE URGENT POLICY CHANGES OR PRIORITIES OF THOSE WHO ELECT THEM.


McConnell and Ryan managing to do almost nothing on Trump's - and the electorate's indicated - priority of returning rule of law and common sense to borders and immigration was not due to cowardice of any sort. (Trump's near-complete failure to politicize and force these issues is a separate topic)


I know it's appealing/satisfying to some to ascribe cowardice - or worse ("cucked") - to these people, but I don't think it's true enough to even be relevant. They're dishonest, they're unbelievably irresponsible, they're small people and personalities, but they don't do what they do out of cowardice.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (QDnY+)

190 Hopefully, In good ol USA fashion, Trump will go down swinging for the bleachers. Damn the torpedos and full speed ahead. We are basically done at this point as a nation, so at least go down swinging.

Posted by: Madhatter at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (qQD2m)

191 means that your odds are better than they appear when you bet into an opponent because there's a chance he might just give up the hand.




works for sex too

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (MTjB1)

192 157
Felicity Huff's, man. Mostly on whippits.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (zBaqJ)

Arooo?

Posted by: A whippet at March 12, 2019 05:48 PM (RD7QR)

193 Which one of the cucks will be the first to join the left in calling this racist?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 12, 2019 05:48 PM (TN1P5)

194 This is the fault of capitalism.

Posted by: Millenials at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM (I2/tG)


Heh, what the dolts will never understand is that credit is capitalism.

Posted by: davidt at March 12, 2019 05:48 PM (Pp8LH)

195 Err, kids who will be going to college. High school age juniors or before. The Junior Year Pre Sat is the one that counts.

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 05:48 PM (hJHKc)

196 This is the principle behind playing 'small ball' in baseball.

Sure, nobody makes errors if the ball isn't in play. But today its all about the home run because there's no defense against it. They're willing to trade huge strikeout totals to get taters.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:48 PM (39g3+)

197 going to college is better than not going to college, so long as you study something useful.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:48 PM (MTjB1)

198 I went to an expensive liberal arts school, got a useless degree, owe $100,000, and am mired in debt.

This is the fault of capitalism.

Posted by: Millenials at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM




Sadly I have a good friend who, while too old to be a millennial, will be in debt for the rest of her life. Multiple grad degrees, super lib, hates Orange man and its every one else's fault she can't find a job in her career field...the environment.
I feel sorry for her...but not much.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 05:49 PM (0tfLf)

199 As someone alluded to above, the FBI has nothing more important to work on?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 05:49 PM (Io8AJ)

200 OT: The Babylon Bed has reviewed Captain America including:

THE BOTTOM LINE: Satanic drivel from the pit of hell.

https://bit.ly/2Hu3sjJ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 12, 2019 05:49 PM (+y/Ru)

201 >>going to college is better than not going to college, so long as you study something useful.


Make more money as a plumber or an electrician if you have 1/2 a brain.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 05:50 PM (HvRkE)

202 Scientia bona est!

owledgeknay isway oodgay!

Posted by: Archer at March 12, 2019 05:50 PM (gmo/4)

203 This is why he is the 3rd Greatest Of All Time presidents, behind George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. The best in 150 years. If the philosophy and ethnic studies majors can't find jobs and pay back their student loans, let the learning institutions who accepted the tuition money from the lending institutions who financed this stupidity share in this nonsense together!!! We'll soon see people switching majors to fields of studies where graduates can actually find jobs.

Posted by: Don_in_Central Jersey at March 12, 2019 05:50 PM (UPDS7)

204 Dennis Miller always used to close with the Glengary Glenn Ross reference: Always Be Closing if you want the knife set.

Good advice for people of power on our side.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 12, 2019 05:50 PM (FTlwv)

205 Posted by: Don_in_Central Jersey at March 12, 2019 05:50 PM (UPDS7)

------

Don't forget my main man Silent Cal.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 05:51 PM (AzW6q)

206 191 means that your odds are better than they appear when you bet into an opponent because there's a chance he might just give up the hand.




works for sex too
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (MTjB1)


So, if she says no, drop trou and yell "blackjack!?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (zBaqJ)

207 So anyone hear any real news about the Mueller report... All kind of rumors today that it's coming soon and it's bad for trump Yeah, I know but I wondered if there is anything that can be verified?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (O2RFr)

208 OT: The Babylon Bed has reviewed Captain America including:

THE BOTTOM LINE: Satanic drivel from the pit of hell.

https://bit.ly/2Hu3sjJ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 12, 2019 05:49 PM (+y/Ru)
+++++++++++++
They're in fine form so far:
Frankly, the movie is pretty problematic. In one scene featuring Brie Larson's eponymous character, Captain Marvel is seen flying around and beating up bad guys, which is pretty unrealistic. I mean, who's watching the kids? Did she call a babysitter? Did she leave them with the grandparents? It's all very confusing. And the film doesn't bother to explain this plothole you could pilot a Kree ship through in the slightest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (I2dne)

209 This is a great idea. This is the kind of thinking that is needed to put the left back on its heals.

So Democrats want student debt amnesty. Fine - let the Universities pay for it. This will play well with the young students in debt and the tax payers.

Note: At the same time Trump should support nailing the universities with a price control to prevent them from jacking up tuition.

Some Never Trump conservative will now complain that this is not conservative. My response -

1. Universities live on the tax payer dime. So there is a price to pay for getting the "uncle sugar money".

2. Universities are not conservative places, so screw em! This is about winning which means keeping America a constitutional republic. Anything that helps that I am for. That is conservative!

Posted by: William Eaton at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (MuTTO)

210 You'll get a nice view of the hugbox right there next to the gloryhole.

Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (LuPts)

211 When I was in high school back around the turn of the century, this
is how it was. They encouraged college - any college. They discouraged
the military and trade schools.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (I2dne)



Ditto.



And yet, I know one multi-millionaire who only went to HS (and was filthy rich in less than 5 years out), and a bunch of fairly well-off guys who went into the trade, plumbing, HVAC, etc. All are happy, owe nothing and will retire when they're 10 years younger than I am now.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (sLicW)

212 My mom was seriously pissed when the High School counselor told one of my older brothers that he didn't have to go to college. That was in 1969.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM

*******

Back then there was always the University of Saigon!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (0tfLf)

213 109
I can't even imagine starting out in life with a six figure negative worth. The first time I actually studied an amortization table I was like, 'Oh my gawd, am I ever fvcked.'



Now, if you just vote for us and our new Democratic Socialism, all of your fears will magically go away!

Posted by: Leftist Liars Lying at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (sy5kK)

214 Posted by: hogmartin at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM (t+qrx)

Sexton?

Posted by: clutch at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (jtPcs)

215 Why do InstaThots need to go to college?

Posted by: Dead Horses at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (awqYm)

216 Town hall- Mueller's investigation is being funded through until the end of September.
Lots of people will die not knowing I guess

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (BbGew)

217 This is the fault of capitalism.

Posted by: Millennials at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM (I2/tG)


If you're an aficionado of baffled expressions, ask a millennial what he understands by the term "capital."

I've never heard one who understood the concept, viz., of deferred consumption.

But if you should encounter one, then ask him why Third World countries experience droughts, famines, floods, etc. See if he makes the connection. (I'm betting not.)

Answer: lack of capital to make the requisite investments in infrastructure. Instead they live on a hand-to-mouth subsistence basis.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (oRUl9)

218 Here you go.

In January, the art student was admitted to Yale as a soccer recruit. It was then that Singer sent longtime Yale women's soccer coach Rudy Meredith a check for $400,000.

This may be bigger than they intended.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (OE84+)

219 going to college is better than not going to college, so long as you study something useful.

At the current prices, I don't agree. And at the currrent quality of education, I think its plainly untrue. It SHOULD be. College ought to be a place where people learn how to think -- not WHAT to think but the tools to think for themselves, and the understanding of great minds before them to arm themselves to do so. It should give a broad higher education in a fundamental array of fields such as science, medicine, art, literature, mathematics, languages, history, and so on.

Armed with this, the leaders of tomorrow can be raised up and prepared for the challenges they'll face.

But college hasn't been about that for nearly 100 years now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (39g3+)

220 The problem I see on the demand side of the equation is that every voice I heard was telling me that student debt was good, totally worth it, and essential and that it isn't really something to worry about.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (I2dne)


Yup. It's why I'm sympathetic to the youngsters who are calling for debt relief, and get annoyed with those on the right who sneer about kids going $100k into debt. 18-year-olds who've been told their entire lives by parents, teachers, the culture at large, that they have to go to college, no matter the cost, aren't exactly in the best position to make a rational decision on the matter.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (wCmLp)

221 The Keurig will be nice, too. Only those won't be K-Cups.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 05:44 PM (ptqGC)

I got yer K cups right here, sweetheart.

Posted by: Alexandria Obviously-Braindead at March 12, 2019 05:54 PM (Io8AJ)

222 One my best Teachers taught us about HOW to take a test.

If you didn't know the answer then try to use process of elimination.

If you don't know and need to guess he read off the percentages of when A,B,C or D is the correct answer.

If the answer is taking forever skip and do it at the end

Some people never got this advice.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 12, 2019 05:54 PM (dKiJG)

223 The other aspect is, as I have seen, STEM faculty
sometimes just burn out. They worked their asses off to get a faculty
position, and then to get tenure, after which they go for a while longer
before just gradually burning out entirely on research. (Not to be
confused with laziness.)


I see your point, but I'd argue that if tenure didn't exist, the pressure on young professors would be less, because the university wouldn't be making an irrevocable decision, and so could lighten up a bit on the young'uns. Hence, less burnout.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:54 PM (T6t7i)

224 So, if she says no, drop trou and yell "blackjack!?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at M




yes

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:54 PM (MTjB1)

225 Prager often tells how he got through college and graduate school really dirt cheap compared to today.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 05:55 PM (BbGew)

226 So anyone hear any real news about the Mueller report... All kind of rumors today that it's coming soon and it's bad for trump Yeah, I know but I wondered if there is anything that can be verified?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (O2RFr)

---------------------------

There must be some news they want to sweep out of the headlines. They've been reporting this occasionally since before the mid terms.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 05:55 PM (ffYR/)

227 I've always been proud of (AND thanked God for) Forrest Gumping my way through life - including college.

Posted by: Archer at March 12, 2019 05:55 PM (gmo/4)

228 18-year-olds who've been told their entire lives by parents, teachers, the culture at large, that they have to go to college, no matter the cost, aren't exactly in the best position to make a rational decision on the matter.

Yep, its a failure of parents to teach and guide their children, parents who bought into the lie because they've been churned through the same system.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:55 PM (39g3+)

229 Some Never Trump conservative will now complain that this is not conservative. My response -

1. Universities live on the tax payer dime. So there is a price to pay for getting the "uncle sugar money".

2. Universities are not conservative places, so screw em! This is about winning which means keeping America a constitutional republic. Anything that helps that I am for. That is conservative!
Posted by: William Eaton at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (MuTTO)
++++++++++++
I'm a Trump-loving conservative, but I don't want to see this happen. I want them to get the hell out of the universities business, quit rigging the student loan and bankruptcy games, and let the market sort out the cost problems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:55 PM (I2dne)

230
Daily Caller piece below dovetails nicely with this post:

I Was a Republican House Member for 17 Years But the Party Left Me.

https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/03/09/coleman-republican-party/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:56 PM (zBaqJ)

231 I was not ready for college when I left high school. My folks knew it, my guidance counselor knew it, I knew it. I feel that far too many parents feel this unbelievable pressure to send the kids to college whether they're ready or not.

Instead I worked, moved to Alaska, eventually joined the Army. When DEROSed I was ready for college.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 12, 2019 05:56 PM (xPJvm)

232 My second son went to a liberal arts college, got a degree in history and has a great job and a wonderful RN wife just 3 years out of college.

While he was at school he volunteered with the local fire company and then transferred to the rescue service. With 4 years of experience he was a shoo-in for his law enforcement career, and someday that degree will help him advance.

By the by, Hampden-Sydney College is a pretty conservative school that teaches a bit of polish and etiquette in addition to the curriculum. I would recommend it.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 12, 2019 05:56 PM (FTlwv)

233 I've asked before, can these moral heros of conservatism name one single conservative policy position they helped become law?

Yet the whole of their hate--as self described conservatives--is spent on politicians and their supporters who are DOING conservative things, passing laws, seating judges and, the biggest horror, getting elected.

And that's another point--if these fuckers are so great, know so damned much--why the fuck aren't they running for office??

They should win in a cake walk if they are half what they think they are

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 12, 2019 05:56 PM (TN1P5)

234 109 I can't even imagine starting out in life with a six figure negative worth. The first time I actually studied an amortization table I was like, 'Oh my gawd, am I ever fvcked.'

This is something that should be taught in a basic finance course in high school.

Take out a multi-year loan, say a mortgage, and calculate how much that $X loan will cost you overall. Typically, at least 1.5 X.

Then ask students to figure out how much of your initial years' payments go to principal, and how much to interest.

Now THAT is eye-opening.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 05:57 PM (oRUl9)

235 When I was in high school back around the turn of the century, this
is how it was. They encouraged college - any college. They discouraged
the military and trade schools.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM



Same here, yet the two biggest scholarships that went to my senior class was an appointment to the Air Force Academy and a four year Army ROTC scholarship.
I was the ROTC guy and at least my counselor had the courage to tell me he hadn't done one of those applications before. He helped where he could, but I was on my own.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 05:57 PM (0tfLf)

236 When did The Barrel turn into some sort of Leisure Time Clubhouse for time out? Has everyone forgotten the original story of The Barrel? This isn't a pleasure cruise people!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 05:57 PM (m45I2)

237 Universities are not conservative places, so screw em! This is about winning which means keeping America a constitutional republic. Anything that helps that I am for. That is conservative!
Posted by: William Eaton at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (MuTTO)

--------

^This guy gets it. We don't owe these Universities anything but a swift kick to the nuts. Cut 'em loose and let 'em fend.

Maybe then they'll realize it's time to quit running indoctrination mills and marshal their resources towards producing non-retarded graduates with degrees that are useful to American society.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 05:57 PM (AzW6q)

238 I'm bemused by all the Classical references coming when I'm reading and listening to Plutarch.

Life is funny, maybe Jung was right after all about the Collective Unconscious.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 05:58 PM (xJa6I)

239

Sadly I have a good friend who, while too old to be a millennial, will be in debt for the rest of her life. Multiple grad degrees, super lib, hates Orange man and its every one else's fault she can't find a job in her career field...the environment.
I feel sorry for her...but not much.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 05:49 PM (0tfLf)


Sounds like one of my good friends. He went this route, tried for 15 years to do something in this field. To pay his bills, he was a painter, started his own painting business.


Today, decades later, he owns the second largest painting contractor business in Eastern Washington.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 05:58 PM (sy5kK)

240

I went to an expensive liberal arts school, got a useless degree, owe $100,000, and am mired in debt.



This is the fault of capitalism.

Posted by: Millenials at March 12, 2019 05:46 PM (I2/tG)

And I wonder whom it was who recommended that you "chase your dreams" and "be who you are" instead of finding out just how many jobs there were for gender grievance majors and what those positions pay?
I bet it wasn't your dad.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 05:58 PM (HaL55)

241 OT: The Babylon Bed has reviewed Captain America including:

THE BOTTOM LINE: Satanic drivel from the pit of hell.

https://bit.ly/2Hu3sjJ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


Sounds like some good beer.

Posted by: weft cut-l00p at March 12, 2019 05:58 PM (Hk+Y0)

242 Townhall- Mueller's never ending investigation
https://tinyurl.com/yyp9rg3x

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 05:58 PM (BbGew)

243 Yup. It's why I'm sympathetic to the youngsters who are calling for debt relief, and get annoyed with those on the right who sneer about kids going $100k into debt. 18-year-olds who've been told their entire lives by parents, teachers, the culture at large, that they have to go to college, no matter the cost, aren't exactly in the best position to make a rational decision on the matter.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 05:53 PM (wCmLp)
+++++++++++++++
The deck was stacked, that's for sure. I still don't want to see student debt relief on the taxpayer dime. This was all either a tragic mistake or viciously calculated destruction of the youth, but we shouldn't pile yet more dreadful "solutions" onto the heap of misery.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:58 PM (I2dne)

244 My second son went to a liberal arts college, got a degree in history and has a great job and a wonderful RN wife just 3 years out of college.

How many years before he pays off that debt? How much of that worldview did he pick up?

And how much of this could have have done without going to college for 4 years?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 05:58 PM (39g3+)

245 236 When did The Barrel turn into some sort of Leisure Time Clubhouse for time out? Has everyone forgotten the original story of The Barrel? This isn't a pleasure cruise people!
Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 05:57 PM (m45I2)

It's SUPPOSED to be rum, sodomy and the lash. Only without the rum.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 05:59 PM (xJa6I)

246 That's not fair. We finally got rid of Ryan, and now we have the brutal juggernaut that is.......Kevin McCarthy.

Never mind.
Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:26 PM (T6t7i)



What does that guy do all day anyway?

You never hear about him at all. Like people don't want talk about him. Like they're embarrassed or something.


I'm guessing he's one of these guys who sits in his office all day masturbating into crew socks while he looks at pictures of mallard ducks.

Minority "leader" or Duck Masturbator?

You decide.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2019 05:59 PM (9X624)

247 231
I was not ready for college when I left high school.


So true of so many, especially me. The women who never miss an opportunity to point out that women mature faster than men (true, I think) never suggest that maybe we should take that into account in the school system. In any case, that's why the military is so useful to so many young men. It gives them a chance (or forces them) to grow up in a way that a female HS teacher never could.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:59 PM (T6t7i)

248 51 Be nice.
Until it's time to not be nice.
Or something.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 12, 2019 05:26 PM (6qErC)

Hey, that's my line.

Posted by: Dalton at March 12, 2019 05:59 PM (yODqO)

249 The only time certain a-holes invoke MY conservatism is when they're using it to save their own ANTI-conservative asses.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 12, 2019 05:59 PM (oVJmc)

250 "Why dress this up with the pretense it's about policy, even remotely?
The huge number of complete flips on "Eternal Sacred Conservative Dogma"
that you guys have executed to show your Virtue proves that you're
entirely uninterested in policy or political outcomes."

that is logical ... UNLESS they were always the Kabuki Theater Players. They were always leftists/Dems ... chosen by BigMoney to be fake leaders of the conservatives.


Or even if they are just snake oil salesmen (policy argument for show, no real results), in it for the money/fame -- they still need to have The Act, and if they are on TV, people think they must be the important Republicans, and buy the snake oil (Romney's Raiders).

Posted by: illiniwek at March 12, 2019 05:59 PM (Cus5s)

251 Meme I've seen:

18 year old: I'd like ,$10k to start a business.
Banks: no

18 year old: How about $100k for college?
Banks: Of course

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 12, 2019 06:00 PM (TN1P5)

252 The gubment should get out of the student loan sharking bidness and pass it on to banks and schools.

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:00 PM (ePWRo)

253 Just cancel govt guaranteed loans. University costs will drop like a rock and a lot of the political crap will drop too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 12, 2019 06:00 PM (r+sAi)

254 And I wonder whom it was who recommended that you "chase your dreams" and "be who you are" instead of finding out just how many jobs there were for gender grievance majors and what those positions pay?
I bet it wasn't your dad.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 05:58 PM (HaL55)
++++++++++++++
This is why I like Mike Rowe. Both on the education side and the work side. "Don't follow your passion - but bring it with you" is singularly good advice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:00 PM (I2dne)

255 some sort of Leisure Time Clubhouse for time out? Has everyone forgotten the original story of The Barrel? This isn't a pleasure cruise people!
Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 05:57 PM (m45I2)

It's SUPPOSED to be rum, sodomy and the lash. Only without the rum.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at M




lol, keurig was added to make sure nobody misses the suffering.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 06:01 PM (MTjB1)

256 Predatory colleges?

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 12, 2019 06:01 PM (p0nVR)

257 251 Meme I've seen:

18 year old: I'd like ,$10k to start a business.
Banks: no

18 year old: How about $100k for college?
Banks: Of course

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 12, 2019 06:00 PM (TN1P5)

Can't default on college loans.

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 06:01 PM (hJHKc)

258

"This case is about the widening corruption of elite college admissions
through the steady application of wealth, combined with fraud," said
U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts Andrew Lelling.

"There can be no separate college admission for wealthy, and I will add
there will not be a separate criminal justice system either."



Reposted because it shows how deep in denial these assholes truly are.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 06:01 PM (LL1Be)

259 442d RCTVin WWII - "Go for broke."

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2019 06:02 PM (TJ9+R)

260 The Republican Party is a party of weak poker players who believe in calling bets forever -- weak, passive play that never puts the question to the opponent -- and even of suddenly folding a hand when there's not even a bet at stake.


Bill Kristol says only illiterate rubes with some vague talent for numbers play poker. And David French passionately agrees. So the Congressional GOP is doing it right.

It is amazing. We win a mighty election victory in 2016 and spending, tax receipts and the deficit go up faster than under Zoobama.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Raise You! at March 12, 2019 06:02 PM (dq4fo)

261
How's my Thrasos taste, beatches?

Posted by: M K Ultra at March 12, 2019 06:02 PM (n2qRY)

262 Keep in mind that this principle is at work in
healthcare as well. If someone else is paying for it you can be damn
sure that that hospital administrator or physician will find a
justification for putting that butt into the MRI scanner. what used to
be one-sixth of the economy has become one-fifth of the economy in 10
short years.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 05:34 PM (m45I2)--------------

According to my oncologist, I have had, in the last 20 years, over 50 scans, including x-rays, CT scans, MRI, PET scans and sonograms. Still kicking though.


Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at March 12, 2019 06:02 PM (G9Y8y)

263 Be nice.
Until it's time to not be nice.
Or something.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 12, 2019 05:26 PM (6qErC)

Hey, that's my line.
Posted by: Dalton at March 12, 2019 05:59 PM (yODqO)

--------

It's nice to be important, but important to be nice.

And if you ain't nice... there'll be hell to pay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXkjPm1tx0

Posted by: Dave Courtney at March 12, 2019 06:02 PM (AzW6q)

264 The women who never miss an opportunity to point out that women mature faster than men (true, I think)

Nah, its crap. Women mature in areas that are socially functional and useful faster than men, but not in other areas. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. Women tend to excel more easily in a civilized area, but men's strengths are always needed where things go wrong. And they always do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 06:03 PM (39g3+)

265 I see your point, but I'd argue that if tenure didn't exist, the pressure on young professors would be less, because the university wouldn't be making an irrevocable decision, and so could lighten up a bit on the young'uns. Hence, less burnout.
Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 05:54 PM (T6t7i)


That's a fair point, and I've thought that too. Getting tenure in the bigs is kind of like SEAL training - to be endured, not to be enjoyed.

A colleague (and friend of mine) were both untenured, when a third guy came up to us and announced, "I did it! I'm now an assistant professor! My troubles are over!"

My colleague and I burst out laughing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 06:03 PM (oRUl9)

266 We did this with cars Ally bank is the old GM load company. Killed, refunded, resurrected, with Bhussein cash into Ally!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2019 06:03 PM (JFO2v)

267 You never hear about him at all. Like people don't want talk about him. Like they're embarrassed or something.

I know I am.

Posted by: pep at March 12, 2019 06:03 PM (T6t7i)

268 231
I was not ready for college when I left high school. My folks knew it,
my guidance counselor knew it, I knew it. I feel that far too many
parents feel this unbelievable pressure to send the kids to college
whether they're ready or not.



Instead I worked, moved to Alaska, eventually joined the Army. When DEROSed I was ready for college.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 12, 2019 05:56 PM (xPJvm)

I was ready, but we couldn't afford it. I joined the navy and saved, got some real world experience, and was even more ready when I could on my own dime. I wouldn't change any of that.
I want my boys to develop a marketable skill before they leave high school, welding, machining, electrical, something, so that they have a fallback, and so they realize the value of real work and money and can appreciate whether college is an investment that will have a positive ROI for them.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:04 PM (t6MX/)

269 I graduated in 4 years debt free but if I had to do it all over again I would have just become a Fireman like most of the rest of my family ( father was exception. Retired military).

I would have been retired 9 years ago.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at March 12, 2019 06:04 PM (2DOZq)

270 Still plenty of jobs in woke companies for post modern interpretive dance majors and intersectional feminism. Who else to staff HR.

Posted by: Kid "toxic" Tyrone at March 12, 2019 06:04 PM (SEdJI)

271 252 And you wonder how government got so big

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 06:04 PM (BbGew)

272 My second son went to a liberal arts college, got a degree in history and has a great job and a wonderful RN wife just 3 years out of college.

How many years before he pays off that debt? How much of that worldview did he pick up?

And how much of this could have have done without going to college for 4 years?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

He's debt free thanks to scholarships and just a bit of help from us. It was a very positive experience for him and well worth it.

As to the second part of the question, that is an unknown, but he would have been looking for another wife for certain.

There is a lot of destructive indoctrination in our institutions, but I won't come out against good, solid education.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 12, 2019 06:05 PM (FTlwv)

273 It is amazing. We win a mighty election victory in 2016 and spending, tax receipts and the deficit go up faster than under Zoobama.

The deficit was going to go up the first year because that's what tax cuts do; the benefits lag behind the lowered revenue, but they catch up. The problem is that both the Republicans and Democrats in congress will always spend more each year by gigantic amounts no matter what.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 06:05 PM (39g3+)

274 Man that demands letter the SJWs sent to Sarah Lawrence because a faculty member isn't engage in enough righthink is a helluva thing.

https://tinyurl.com/y36aa22g

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:06 PM (I2dne)

275 I have very little pity for any kid who goes to college and comes out thou$ands in debt. There are just too many ways to get all or most of it paid for.
Hey...join the frigging Army...or National Guard. If you're good enough, get an ROTC scholarship. Or just get a damn job.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:06 PM (0tfLf)

276 Daily Caller piece below dovetails nicely with this post:

I Was a Republican House Member for 17 Years But the Party Left Me.

https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/03/09/coleman-republican-party/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:56 PM (zBaqJ)


I suspect he's an Open Borders guy, but I can respect someone who has decided to go independent - the Republican Party is nothing to admire these days, as we attest. What I cannot abide are those who actively support the Democrats, like the Cuckshed bunch.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 06:06 PM (Kpl3J)

277 264 The women who never miss an opportunity to point out that women mature faster than men (true, I think)

Nah, its crap. Women mature in areas that are socially functional and useful faster than men, but not in other areas. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. Women tend to excel more easily in a civilized area, but men's strengths are always needed where things go wrong. And they always do.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 06:03 PM (39g3+)


Another consideration is that early maturation tends to be associated with limited intellectual development. Almost all of the guys I played ball with in high school got married 10 minutes after graduation. They were ready; I was not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 06:06 PM (oRUl9)

278 I didn't get into Stanford, (maybe some fucker gave them a bribe) and I was tired of school so I took a gap year off. Nothing like working for minimum wage to get my motivation back. No problem getting into a good school. My parents were cool with me living at home.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 06:07 PM (KOCKb)

279 FORZA JUVE!

Posted by: Eskimo at March 12, 2019 06:07 PM (qVCqG)

280 Be nice.
Until it's time to not be nice.
Or something.
Posted by: Anon a mouse


Then be the meanest bastard in the AO.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 06:08 PM (LHT0w)

281 442d RCTVin WWII - "Go for broke."


Nobody was talking about cultural appropriation.That's just raw, rude, nationalism.

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:08 PM (ePWRo)

282
Next job I'm not going with the pretend to be a woman crap, I'm going with the pretend to be a woman pretending to be a man! Victoria/Victor! Man, I'll be a very convincing trans-man, short hair, vague boobage, occasional mutters about vag-itch in boxers... PROFIT!

Posted by: M K Ultra at March 12, 2019 06:08 PM (n2qRY)

283 My wife was taking a new Nurse to shadow her, she had 2 degrees and went to a 2 year school for her RN both degrees were useless, art history and Sports management and she had over 150 grand in debt. How the hell was she going to pay off her debt with a Nursing job.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 12, 2019 06:08 PM (dKiJG)

284 How the hell was she going to pay off her debt with a Nursing job.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 12, 2019 06:08 PM


*******

Kneepads?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:09 PM (0tfLf)

285
College hacks: "But this will put our many esteemed 'Studies' programs and degrees at risk!"

Me: "That's a feature, not a bug, if that occurs. Learning to code would have taught you that."

Posted by: cocktail hour! at March 12, 2019 06:09 PM (pNxlR)

286 How the hell was she going to pay off her debt with a Nursing job.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 12, 2019 06:08 PM (dKiJG)

NOT Typical Progressivism 101: Transfer wealth to old white people!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2019 06:09 PM (JFO2v)

287 Wasn't it Rahm Emanuel that suggested every American go through a year or two of some kind of "AmeriCorps" service? It seemed like he wanted serious indoctrination for all.


But at this point, if we could teach them real Americana and instill real work skills, pay them a little money, it would (potentially) be better than sending them to the death (by a thousand leftist cuts) camps, that our universities have become. College leaves so many brainwashed and deep in debt, captive to the Supreme State ... I blame the hippies.


But that is why we need 50 million more Hondurans, to do all dirty work so our youth can be enslaved to leftist dogma.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 12, 2019 06:09 PM (Cus5s)

288 284
How the hell was she going to pay off her debt with a Nursing job.



Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 12, 2019 06:08 PM





*******



Kneepads?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:09 PM (0tfLf)

Happy ending.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:09 PM (t6MX/)

289 Bullshit. Obama doubled the National Debt and what did we get for it? Yeah, it's grown in two years. But hey! What results.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 06:09 PM (KOCKb)

290 The Bernie Bros are gonna hate this.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (LL1Be)

291

How the hell was she going to pay off her debt with a Nursing job.


By marrying a doctor, silly!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (HaL55)

292 Also from the Sarah Lawrence demand letter:

Students of color should not be forced to resort to racist white professors in order to have access to their own history. It is crucial that the College offer courses taught about people of color by people of color so that students may engage in
and produce meaningful work that represents them authentically.


These people are unreal. I think they actually fail to understand that they're racists.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (I2dne)

293 Be nice, until it's time not to be nice - Dalton, Road House.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (VWp7G)

294 I'm seriously thinking about doing an Everest trek next year to mark my emotional healing from the grief caused by the death of my wife last year.
Today I saw an ad on Facebook for a company that does Himalaya. How?
That's a little creepy.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (eAMlh)

295 Good, I don't like all this "trump yucky BUT" bullshit. He's ok, stop it.

As for student loans, they could start with capping it. Ending the annual max tuition. Have colleges cap admin to faculty ratios so they can't have 100 diversity coordinators making nearly 7 figures. Also, force colleges to be republican friendlyh.

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (7uiTk)

296 Niece went to Nursing school while in the NROTC. Worked out great.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (KOCKb)

297 I just saw Dicks Sporting Goods is doubling down on stupid -- going to stop selling firearms entirely in 125 stores.Wonder if they realize that the number at the bottom of their income statement as highlighted in red with parentheses around it is a bad thing?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (jxbfJ)

298 Hey...this is OT but rumor has it there may be a Nurse Ratchet/Insom sighting in the ONT.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:11 PM (0tfLf)

299 206 191 means that your odds are better than they appear when you bet into an opponent because there's a chance he might just give up the hand.




works for sex too
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 05:47 PM (MTjB1)


So, if she says no, drop trou and yell "blackjack!?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:52 PM (zBaqJ)


Umm, how does one clean the sprayed coffee from under the keycaps on the computer?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 06:11 PM (sy5kK)

300 Why isn't student loan risk a function of the the degree? Easy money for EE, hard money for art history

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2019 06:11 PM (25Dt7)

301 Want to control tuition costs?

Minimize the number of (govt) sources for Student Loans, which IS a 'third party pay' system. (...which incidentally helped to wreck health care...besides flooding HC with 'zero payers' (e.g.-illegals, formerly institutionalized mental patients... now the homeless)).

^^^When 'somebody else' is paying for it, colleges have little to no incentive to exercise control over costs.

P.S. -- Ban govt loans to non-STEM degree-seekers... no more subsidized "-studies" BS. Want a BA in Intersectional Lesbian Literature? Fine.. do it on your own (or Daddy's) dime, cupcake, not mine.

P.P.S. -- Lock in GI Loans to include Trade Schools AND Certification Fees.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at March 12, 2019 06:11 PM (W+kMI)

302
292 Also from the Sarah Lawrence demand letter:

Students of color should not be forced to resort to racist white professors in order to have access to their own history. It is crucial that the College offer courses taught about people of color by people of color so that students may engage in
and produce meaningful work that represents them authentically.

These people are unreal. I think they actually fail to understand that they're racists.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (I2dne)

Democrats generally are so racist they don't even know what racism is.

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 06:12 PM (hJHKc)

303 My daughter is in nursing school. Graduates next year with her BSN. Yes she'll be graduating with some college debt, but when you start out at $60k/yr, if she is smart she'll be fine.But I'm also hinting that she could join the Army, go in as an officer and they'll pay her debt off.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 12, 2019 06:12 PM (jxbfJ)

304 294
I'm seriously thinking about doing an Everest trek next year to mark my
emotional healing from the grief caused by the death of my wife last
year.

Today I saw an ad on Facebook for a company that does Himalaya. How?

That's a little creepy.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (eAMlh)

Cookies and javascript. Facebook is embedded on virtually every web page. It knows what you look at.

RIP, your dear wife. My continued condolences to you.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:12 PM (t6MX/)

305 Often Overlooked Quotes from The Godfather:

"Does this man have real balls?"

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 12, 2019 06:12 PM (o7l6R)

306 I almost had a forced gap year. Nobody (guidance counselor also worked at the state liquor store) told me that I really should apply to more than one college. Not even when that school didn't grant me early admission.

So when I got my rejection all of the application periods were closed and I had no where to go. Fortunately the State U. was a little round-heeled on my behalf.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2019 06:13 PM (fuK7c)

307 Students of color should not be forced to resort to racist white professors in order to have access to their own history. It is crucial that the College offer courses taught about people of color by people of color so that students may engage in and produce meaningful work that represents them authentically.

Then complain about the lousy education they receive.

A friend of mine (black) said students in Compton do poorly because they have shitty teachers. No prizes for guessing why.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 06:13 PM (oRUl9)

308 Why isn't student loan risk a function of the the degree? Easy money for EE, hard money for art history
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2019 06:11 PM (25Dt7)
+++++++++++++
Because there's very little lender risk. Student loans are non-dischargeable in bankruptcy. The lender might not get paid back quickly, but they get to hound the student for life if needed, including social security and the estate.

They won't get all of the recapitalized interest, of course, but they will get their principal and a lot more back over time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:13 PM (I2dne)

309 298 Hey...this is OT but rumor has it there may be a Nurse Ratchet/Insom sighting in the ONT.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:11 PM (0tfLf)


The ONT is after the FCC Family Hour. That is good.

Except on the West Coast, where insanity rules.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 06:13 PM (sy5kK)

310 Niece went to Nursing school while in the NROTC. Worked out great.

Posted by: JAS at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM



My daughter did the same. Picked up some pricey certificaitons (for free), served her country, and when she finished, she walked into a $100k/year job at a private clinic.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:13 PM (0tfLf)

311 These people are unreal. I think they actually fail to understand that they're racists.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (I2dne)

-------

They're Dems. Fish don't know they're wet, either.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 06:14 PM (AzW6q)

312 "253 Just cancel govt guaranteed loans. University costs will drop like a rock and a lot of the political crap will drop too."

Exactly. Unfortunately, the idiot children of the Administrative State all but guarantee it won't happen. Universities and colleges once were sanctioned if their student loan default rates were too high. Then they got the bright idea to hire former senators and congressmen to teach.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 12, 2019 06:14 PM (iw59Q)

313 He "may" do it. I'll raise three cheers when he does it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 12, 2019 06:14 PM (H8QX8)

314 Women mature faster because nature intended them to become mothers while they were young and strong.
------------------------

Daily Caller piece below dovetails nicely with this post:

I Was a Republican House Member for 17 Years But the Party Left Me.

https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/03/09/coleman-republican-party/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 05:56 PM (zBaqJ)

-----------------

Good riddance.

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:14 PM (ePWRo)

315 Im sure he got the idea from Mittens and Jeb

Posted by: Avi at March 12, 2019 06:15 PM (kSq2k)

316 ace news analysis = best news analysis

Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2019 06:15 PM (Hucnr)

317 294 I'm seriously thinking about doing an Everest trek next year to mark my emotional healing from the grief caused by the death of my wife last year.
Today I saw an ad on Facebook for a company that does Himalaya. How?
That's a little creepy.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (eAMlh)


My Brother is going through the same and he and his son's are taking short trips here and there.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 12, 2019 06:15 PM (dKiJG)

318 Way back in the day - surely not my day, as I am but 29 - there were limits on ROTC scholarships, I think mid 80s it was 70% were awarded for hard sciences (what we call STEM today) and only 30 for the liberal arts degrees. If you were one of those students for whom engineering was pre-business, you also lost your scholarship.

Posted by: blaster at March 12, 2019 06:16 PM (ZfRYq)

319

College hacks: "But this will put our many esteemed 'Studies' programs and degrees at risk!"



Me: "That's a feature, not a bug, if that occurs. Learning to code would have taught you that."


Ooh, here's an assignment: Find out what good "Studies programs" have done for anybody.

Show your work.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 06:16 PM (HaL55)

320 I'm here to tell you that the Dems are not crazy. They know some things.

Posted by: Melania's Body Double at March 12, 2019 06:16 PM (vDqXW)

321 If you want a better look at what's been happening in Caracas, read "An Enemy of the State" by F Paul Wilson.

He goes into the details far more than did Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged

Posted by: Greg Q at March 12, 2019 06:16 PM (uhgWY)

322 300 Why isn't student loan risk a function of the the degree? Easy money for EE, hard money for art history
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2019 06:11 PM (25Dt7)


You need an objective basis for doing this, so here it is:

Charge true, fully-burdened costs for each degree, after taking into account the overheads brought in by the faculty of that department.

STEM departments typically bring in the lion's share of overheads (on research grants). Social science departments bring little, and humanities departments bring in nothing.

So that would provide a natural mechanism for adjusting student loan risk.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 06:17 PM (oRUl9)

323 Stop US Bug Govt Loan Guarantees

Watches old white guys kill over!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2019 06:17 PM (JFO2v)

324 I'm seriously thinking about doing an Everest trek next year to mark my emotional healing from the grief caused by the death of my wife last year.
Today I saw an ad on Facebook for a company that does Himalaya. How?
That's a little creepy.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM


Do some research. I just heard last week that they have closed some of the Everest climb due to the trash.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:17 PM (0tfLf)

325 Truth is only true if someone of the same skin color as you says it!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 06:18 PM (39g3+)

326 Today I saw an ad on Facebook for a company that does Himalaya. How?
That's a little creepy.
Posted by: Northern Lurker

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The algorithm said "Canucks love snow. Show him the Himalayas."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 06:18 PM (AzW6q)

327 Make K12 teachers put up their pensions! ha!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2019 06:18 PM (JFO2v)

328 the train keeps on chugging.

Posted by: trapper's girl at March 12, 2019 06:19 PM (xc+81)

329 Make K12 teachers put up their pensions! ha!
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2019 06:18 PM (JFO2v)
++++++++++
That won't work. The pensions are all broke.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:19 PM (I2dne)

330 Way back in the day - surely not my day, as I am but 29 - there were limits on ROTC scholarships, I think mid 80s it was 70% were awarded for hard sciences (what we call STEM today) and only 30 for the liberal arts degrees. If you were one of those students for whom engineering was pre-business, you also lost your scholarship.

Posted by: blaster at March 12, 2019 06:16 PM



It keeps changing so one needs to check. For people who enlist, the Green to Gold program is excellent and it seldom get maxed out on offers to active duty soldiers.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:19 PM (0tfLf)

331 Do some research. I just heard last week that they have closed some of the Everest climb due to the trash.



Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:17 PM (0tfLf)

Maybe look at some of the U.S. peaks. Rainier is quite doable, probably cheaper, and there are a number of other nearby peaks to practice/train on, such as St. Helens, Hood, Adams. If that is beneath your level, there is McKinley.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:20 PM (t6MX/)

332 "Your actual fight isn't political; it's personal and psychological. You just want to tell people how very, very Virtuous you are, and you want your fellow Virtue-Mongers to emotionally validate you and tell you how virtuous you are in return for assuring them that they're virtuous."

And this, exactly this, is what they have in common with the left. The left exists solely to virtue signal. Tell them their polices won't work, they don't give a fuck. because it was never about the policy, it was about being seen as a good person. policy smolicy, who cares? Does it make me look virtuous?

So we have idiots who are trying to spend our money on their way to virtue, and the people opposed to them who decide to cave in in the cause of virtue.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at March 12, 2019 06:20 PM (AJj50)

333 the train keeps on chugging.
Posted by: trapper's girl at March 12, 2019 06:19 PM (xc+81)

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Next stop, Honolulu!

Posted by: Donkey Chompers at March 12, 2019 06:20 PM (AzW6q)

334 Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (7uiTk)

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Unless Bander suddenly developed dyslexia, this is really close to socking a regular.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:20 PM (gC2IV)

335 I'm a Trump-loving conservative, but I don't want to see this happen. I want them to get the hell out of the universities business, quit rigging the student loan and bankruptcy games, and let the market sort out the cost problems.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:55 PM (I2dne)

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If you limit their tuition scam they will have cut stuff - like transsexual muslim studies.

Once again there is a condition: If they get federal money for anything. Of course if government got out entirely that would be great, but that is a politically good move. To win in war (and politics) you must many times take the indirect rout to a goal.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 12, 2019 06:20 PM (MuTTO)

336 When I was in high school back around the turn of the century, this
is how it was. They encouraged college - any college. They discouraged
the military and trade schools.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:42 PM


Same here, yet the two biggest scholarships that went to my senior class was an appointment to the Air Force Academy and a four year Army ROTC scholarship.
I was the ROTC guy and at least my counselor had the courage to tell me he hadn't done one of those applications before. He helped where he could, but I was on my own.
Posted by: Diogenes

I was actively discouraged from going to The Citadel by everyone in my high school, except the wrestling coach. Help you get money, talk to admissions, you can do so much better ... Thinking about their smug faces got me through many dark days.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2019 06:20 PM (25Dt7)

337 OT


Why are Sandy Ocasio, Omar, T-Rancid and the other radicals, going what seems batshit crazy over policy the last few months?


She and they are simply Leftist / Globalist tools, being useful.


It's their task to probe the pro-freedom forces for weakness by advancing radical proposals. How conservatives and Republicans respond to her probes is what her masters most want to know.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (sy5kK)

338 The Colombians should be girding their loins.
When/As Venezuela falls communists from the south will attempt to fill the vacuum.

That's when Columbia annexes Venezuela.

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (ePWRo)

339 Cap student loans at $5k per year. Total max at $25k

Posted by: MAGA at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (I5LRE)

340 >>>I'm here to tell you that the Dems are not crazy. They know some things.<<

Like, you know, whatever, you know?

Posted by: Alexandrea Obama-Cortex at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (LuPts)

341 Do some research. I just heard last week that they have closed some of the Everest climb due to the trash.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:17 PM (0tfLf)

Oh I'm not climbing Everest. I don't want some poor Sherpa to risk his life trying to haul my soft white ass up Everest. It's just a trek from Kathmandu to base camp.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (eAMlh)

342
Unless Bander suddenly developed dyslexia, this is really close to socking a regular.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Or bander got some bad port

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (25Dt7)

343 Unless Bander suddenly developed dyslexia, this is really close to socking a regular.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:20 PM (gC2IV)

Different hash.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (t6MX/)

344 335 I'm a Trump-loving conservative, but I don't want to see this happen. I want them to get the hell out of the universities business, quit rigging the student loan and bankruptcy games, and let the market sort out the cost problems.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 05:55 PM (I2dne)

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If you limit their tuition scam they will have cut stuff - like transsexual muslim studies.

Once again there is a condition: If they get federal money for anything. Of course if government got out entirely that would be great, but that is a politically good move. To win in war (and politics) you must many times take the indirect rout to a goal.
Posted by: William Eaton at March 12, 2019 06:20 PM (MuTTO)

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Edit: I meant to say "politically BAD move" above.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (MuTTO)

345 That won't work. The pensions are all broke.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:19 PM (I2dne)

SS is gone! When I told my financial advisor to use 0% for SS, he shit the bed!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (JFO2v)

346
So, only blacks can teach other blacks?

I nominate Thomas Sowell or Shelby Steele to run the whole friggin campus.

Now sit down, shut up and listen. There will be tests.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 06:22 PM (zBaqJ)

347

One man.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2019 06:22 PM (0xPsI)

348 Unless Bander suddenly developed dyslexia, this is really close to socking a regular.

Thanks. I didn't see him in this thread but I posted in last.


Posted by: Snaderbatch


That is not I. It's also not cool.

It's not exactly socking a regular, but it's close enough that alexthechick texted me as to if that were I.

'Tisn't.


So, 7uiTk, please find an original nic.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2019 06:22 PM (fuK7c)

349 Imagine what Trump could accomplish if the Republicans held both houses of Congress.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 06:23 PM (LL1Be)

350 Oh I'm not climbing Everest. I don't want some poor Sherpa to risk his life trying to haul my soft white ass up Everest. It's just a trek from Kathmandu to base camp.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM



Ha! I can relate.
Consider Kilimanjaro. My SNL did it about 5 years ago. Did the homework. Did the prep. Said it was a great climb/walk and exhilarating at the tip.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:23 PM (0tfLf)

351 337:

"It's their task to probe the pro-freedom forces for weakness by advancing radical proposals. How conservatives and Republicans respond to her probes is what her masters most want to know."

"If," not "how." Hope their masters didn't spend to much to find the answer.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 12, 2019 06:24 PM (iw59Q)

352 Imagine what Trump could accomplish if the Republicans Conservatives held both houses of Congress.


Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 06:23 PM

******

FIFY.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:24 PM (0tfLf)

353 "294 I'm seriously thinking about doing an Everest trek next year to mark my emotional healing from the grief caused by the death of my wife last year."

Listen brother and listen well - healing won't be found on the side of a mountain.

When my Father died suddenly and tragically I did the Camino Santiago. Go in the off season.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at March 12, 2019 06:24 PM (AJj50)

354 This is not who we are as a person.

Posted by: Melania's Body Double at March 12, 2019 06:24 PM (vDqXW)

355 Snaderbatch is very different from Bandersnatch, give it a rest

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 06:24 PM (39g3+)

356 Why send the National Guard when one #TrumpTweet blows them up entirely.

Posted by: DaveA at March 12, 2019 06:25 PM (FhXTo)

357 Imagine what Trump could accomplish if the Republicans held both houses of Congress.
Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 06:23 PM (LL1Be)
+++++++++++
I know this is sarcasm, but the answer is probably "less than now."

Since Republicans and Democrats are actually the same people wearing different vestments (for the most part) but one side is ostensibly on "your team," it makes it harder to go to war because it is bad to make war on "your team."

This gives the Uniparty a big check.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 06:25 PM (I2dne)

358 Sowell is prejudiced against the South.

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:25 PM (ePWRo)

359 349
Imagine what Trump could accomplish if the Republicans held both houses of Congress.


Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 06:23 PM (LL1Be)


Campaign slogan for 2020!!! Gold!!!

Posted by: GOPe at March 12, 2019 06:25 PM (Pp8LH)

360 Why isn't student loan risk a function of the the degree? Easy money for EE, hard money for art history
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2019 06:11 PM (25Dt7)

You need an objective basis for doing this, so here it is:

Charge true, fully-burdened costs for each degree, after taking into account the overheads brought in by the faculty of that department.

STEM departments typically bring in the lion's share of overheads (on research grants). Social science departments bring little, and humanities departments bring in nothing.

So that would provide a natural mechanism for adjusting student loan risk.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

No, I mean the other side. The cost of money to the student - the availability and interest - on the loans. Base it on likelihood of repayment. Just like every other loan.

Then, charge more for the grifters in the departments that can't support themselves.

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2019 06:26 PM (25Dt7)

361 Imagine what Trump could accomplish if the GOP supported him.

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:26 PM (ePWRo)

362 Where all the already-been-raped girls at? I gotta get some "due process" for my dick heh heh heh. Good to be a Democrat!

Posted by: Justin Fairfax, Serial Rapist at March 12, 2019 06:26 PM (4Eo4+)

363 rumor has it there may be a Nurse Ratchet/Insom sighting in the ONT.

Cue the slow disco music

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 12, 2019 06:26 PM (ykYG2)

364 Fine

Posted by: Thistopher Caylor at March 12, 2019 06:27 PM (fuK7c)

365 "There are no results for site:acecomments.mu.nu "7uiTk""
Bander,
make a Winona or truck stop joke and see who it reveals.

Posted by: DaveA at March 12, 2019 06:27 PM (FhXTo)

366 Oh I'm not climbing Everest. I don't want some poor Sherpa to risk his life trying to haul my soft white ass up Everest. It's just a trek from Kathmandu to base camp.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:21 PM (eAMlh)

I have done the ride at Disney Animal about 20 time you possies. With a beer once!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2019 06:27 PM (JFO2v)

367 294 I'm seriously thinking about doing an Everest trek next year to mark my emotional healing from the grief caused by the death of my wife last year.
Today I saw an ad on Facebook for a company that does Himalaya. How?
That's a little creepy.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:10 PM (eAMlh)


Funny you mention this. I was talking to two of my younger brothers, both also over 29. They were having a conversation on their cell phones, and one mentioned that they were thinking of going to Tahiti or the South Seas somewhere on vacation. It was a joke, because neither of them has that on their top 500 list of things to do.

Later that evening, pop up ads appeared on Tahiti and other vacation trips when they surfed the internet, on devices other than the phones they used.

Both of them. And neither had EVER searched for such a topic.

I talked to both of them separately, and both mentioned this to me casually. They have no reason to lie.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 12, 2019 06:27 PM (sy5kK)

368 Consider Kilimanjaro. My SNL did it about 5 years ago. Did the homework. Did the prep. Said it was a great climb/walk and exhilarating at the tip.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:23 PM (0tfLf)

Kilimanjaro has always fascinated me. It's a huge mountain, and basically goes from equatorial to arctic climes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 12, 2019 06:28 PM (xPJvm)

369 One thing about this Everest trek, I am from east coast, and as a 17 year old sent to the Denver area the air was pretty thin for a few weeks. Image even at base of Everest it's real thin.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 06:28 PM (BbGew)

370 Watch college become more affordable when government stops fucking with the market.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 12, 2019 06:28 PM (oVJmc)

371 "How? That's a little creepy."

Ever hear of a DoD, Darpa thingy called LifeLog?

Got shut down by "oversight"... and Facebook started the same day.

Things that make ya go hmmm.

Posted by: teej at March 12, 2019 06:28 PM (NUb9I)

372 So, only blacks can teach other blacks?

I nominate Thomas Sowell or Shelby Steele to run the whole friggin campus.

Now sit down, shut up and listen. There will be tests.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 06:22 PM (zBaqJ)

And black students can only produce quality work for black professors?

Are white guys with grey hair and glasses that intimidating?

Sounds like a low IQ problem to me. Maybe somebody should do a study on that.

Posted by: Alexandria Obviously-Braindead at March 12, 2019 06:28 PM (Io8AJ)

373 361 Imagine what Trump could accomplish if the GOP supported him.
Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:26 PM (ePWRo)

361 Imagine what Americans could accomplish if the GOP supported us.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 12, 2019 06:28 PM (JFO2v)

374 Way back in the day - surely not my day, as I am but 29 - there were limits on ROTC scholarships, I think mid 80s it was 70% were awarded for hard sciences (what we call STEM today) and only 30 for the liberal arts degrees. If you were one of those students for whom engineering was pre-business, you also lost your scholarship.

Posted by: blaster at March 12, 2019 06:16 PM


It keeps changing so one needs to check. For people who enlist, the Green to Gold program is excellent and it seldom get maxed out on offers to active duty soldiers.
Posted by: Diogenes

Did they fix the way Foreign language majors were counted?

Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2019 06:29 PM (25Dt7)

375 When my Father died suddenly and tragically I did the Camino Santiago. Go in the off season.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at March 12, 2019 06:24 PM (AJj50)

I have thought about that. But I've had a long time fascination with the Himalayas.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:29 PM (eAMlh)

376 Whoops off big tit Commie sock.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 06:29 PM (Io8AJ)

377 I'm a Trump-loving conservative, but I don't want to see this happen. I want them to get the hell out of the universities business, quit rigging the student loan and bankruptcy games, and let the market sort out the cost problems.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

----

...And I want it to be the first step in the government retreating from everything else: arts in particular. (That one I could go on about for hours.)

Whenever people talk about a clean-needles-for-addicts program, I have to remind them that EVERYTHING government sticks its hands into is basically a clean-needles-for-addicts program.

Posted by: RKae at March 12, 2019 06:29 PM (Rd8+4)

378 Before I forget, another jaw-dropper that might be 1) brainless local radio "news" announcers, or 2) inaccurate or out of context. Radio "news" - WH working with Senate GOP to changes in statutes governing national emergency declarations, to be adopted in tandem with vote on Trump's nat'l declaration on the border. To avoid "awkward situation/vote" for Trump.


WTFFFFFF?


This WH appears dead-set on not achieving its key policy goals by not doing anything to defeat its biggest enemy - parts of the GOP.


There's suddenly an urgent need to amend the law when dozens of nat'l emergencies, some of long duration, are in existence, NONE of them remotely as important or pertinent to national security as our own f***ing border and ability to control who enters the country? None of these declarations having attracted the least attention before? It would be awkward for *Trump* to force the useless Senate GOP to vote on something, when it's avoided any big votes for 2 years while Trump's/the country's agenda has languished?


Let the Senate vote. If they're idiotic enough to vote the wrong way, veto the f***ing resolution. No way they over-ride. And - AND - (fanfare) - what do you know, you'll have GOP incumbents ID'ing themselves as priority targets for removal, preferably by primary.


FFS.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 12, 2019 06:30 PM (QDnY+)

379 So, only blacks can teach other blacks?

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And they can only design bridges if blacks are going to drive on them. THAT'S why you don't see them as engineers.

Posted by: RKae at March 12, 2019 06:31 PM (Rd8+4)

380 Remember during the midterm's, old supah conservative McCarthy had that radio spot about his border bill....what a fraud

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 12, 2019 06:31 PM (OOH1c)

381 Nurse Ratchet/Insom sighting in the ONT.

Cue the slow disco music
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at M



didn't someone have shot of them strolling on weekend ont?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 06:31 PM (MTjB1)

382 rumor has it there may be a Nurse Ratchet/Insom sighting in the ONT.

Cue the slow disco music
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 12, 2019 06:26 PM (ykYG2)

Last night's, or tonight's?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 06:31 PM (Io8AJ)

383 Hey how about this:

Free Republic for everyone!

Free Markets for everyone!

Posted by: Axeman at March 12, 2019 06:31 PM (vDqXW)

384 "Later that evening, pop up ads appeared on Tahiti and other vacation trips when they surfed the internet, on devices other than the phones they used."

I was talking to a friend the other day about how I'd like to see Bali and, you know, some Ginger Island ladies and all, and I went to open my wallet that night and my wife's head popped out and told me that the roof on the house needs to be replaced - so, how did that happen?

Posted by: Boswell at March 12, 2019 06:31 PM (32YRo)

385 Nurse Ratchet/Insom sighting in the ONT.

Cue the slow disco music
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at M



didn't someone have shot of them strolling on weekend ont?
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 06:31 PM (MTjB1)

Well she did mention she might be in love on the gun thread, but she was also talking up a 1911, so who knows.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (Io8AJ)

386 THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT, OR SUPPORT, THE URGENT POLICY CHANGES OR PRIORITIES OF THOSE WHO ELECT THEM.

McConnell
and Ryan managing to do almost nothing on Trump's -...

they're small people and personalities, but
they don't do what they do out of cowardice.


They do what they're paid to do and we're not their employers.
Voters - we've got millions of em all over the country.

Posted by: DaveA at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (FhXTo)

387 Protect free speech (NO campus speech codes), or lose funding, no compromise.

Make all admissions entirely race and sex neutral. SAT scores with identifying numbers only - no names or addresses. Everyone above (insert whatever cutoff you like) SAT score goes into a lottery, and the winners are admitted. That would eliminate all sex and race based bias. Scholarship money is then added on the basis of need. Easy peasy. Think of the thousands of admission officers you can cut loose, the millions of hours on bullshit essays you can dispense with.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (AJj50)

388 This action by the president is a good first step. I'd also make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (gC2IV)

389 Students of color should not be forced to resort to racist white professors in order to have access to their own history.

These people are unreal. I think they actually fail to understand that they're racists.
_______________

Yeah, like it would be impossible for a white person to teach African American history. It's not as if any AA's (or Mexicans or Puerto Ricans or muzzies, etc.) have ever taught a history they and their ancestors weren't personally involved in, right?

These students are also lazy. Despite their histrionics, they are not being denied "access" to their history. Don't want to take a history class taught by a white person? Fine, there's an abundance of resources for you to tap on your own. You can find and read all sorts of books about black history written by blacks, hispanic history written by hispanics, etc., and you can also find websites where you and others who look just like you can discuss those books -- without getting any white cooties.

Of course, that would require some initiative and work on the part of the complaining students, and we all know these pampered princes aren't going to go for that. They want their lefty indoctrination spoon fed to them, by the victimologist of their choice, at somebody else's expense.

Losers.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (fqUgw)

390


Watch college become more affordable when government stops fucking with the market.


And then they'd need to stop manipulating the economy. Some long-term stability in the job markets would be nice. You know, like we used to have back when we actually made things to sell before BJ Cliton gave all that to his buddies, the Chi-Coms.


Or we could just keep going with this "Gig economy" where skillsets change every few years so nobody ever gets to put in enough time in one job to get really good at it or establish any financial security.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (HaL55)

391 This is the real college scam. Those aren't student loans. They're transfer payments to Leftist re-Educators that the kids are on the hook for.

While the professors are on sabbatical in Tuscany, Biff and Suzie have to wait tables to pay for it because their degree in Grievance Studies has prepared them for nothing but bleaching Bill Maher's musky nether-regions.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (Ndje9)

392 "some of us just want the personal validation of feeling like we did the Nice thing and lost like gentlemen"

Yes, and isn't that just another type of virtue signalling, which is supposed to be the lefties' stock in trade?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at March 12, 2019 06:34 PM (hjaPQ)

393 Later that evening, pop up ads appeared on Tahiti and other vacation trips when they surfed the internet, on devices other than the phones they used.

Anyone else getting ads for Melania body-doubles?

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 06:34 PM (jOEDM)

394 I just saw Dicks Sporting Goods is doubling down on stupid -- going to stop selling firearms entirely in 125 stores.

-
What about fishing poles? They kill people. If you consider fish to be people anyway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 12, 2019 06:34 PM (+y/Ru)

395 388
This action by the president is a good first step. I'd also make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (gC2IV)

The latter would have a greater effect on the student loan bubble overnight. Thanks, W, for that cluster.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:35 PM (t6MX/)

396 I'll disagree with the boss on one thing, calling in poker is not always weak.

If you know your hand is best, for instance holding two Kings and a King comes in the flop, then simply calling a bet can entice an opponent to overextend and piss even more of their chips away to you thinking that they will bluff you out.

Playing possum is sometimes advantageous in that it gives your opponent a false sense of superiority.

Alas, our GOP aren't shrewd poker players, tricking the liberals into losing more while holding the nuts when they call.

They are weak faux-conservatives holding the nuts in their mouth and enjoying the payoff when the Dems f*ck their constituents.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 06:35 PM (51k37)

397 So, the FBI is arresting rich people for getting their kids into colleges illegally.

Can they please investigate illegal aliens who also get into college?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 12, 2019 06:35 PM (oFRFY)

398 Why would the French even have a phrase for "Who Dares, Wins"? Makes no sense.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 12, 2019 06:35 PM (tu3iY)

399 394 I just saw Dicks Sporting Goods is doubling down on stupid -- going to stop selling firearms entirely in 125 stores.

-
What about fishing poles? They kill people. If you consider fish to be people anyway.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 12, 2019 06:34 PM (+y/Ru)


"Look! Howard's being eaten!"

"Makes you wonder, doesn't it? I mean, what's it all about?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 06:35 PM (zBaqJ)

400 Anyone else getting ads for Melania body-doubles?

Posted by: t-bird

Depends - government career opportunity or escort service?

Posted by: Boswell at March 12, 2019 06:36 PM (32YRo)

401 The whole never fight thing is why I left the GOP. The wimp factor turned my stomach.


Actual card carry Libertarian. Sure people point and laugh, then I bring up the GOP and then point and laugh.

Posted by: nip at March 12, 2019 06:36 PM (DfGpI)

402 Well, the massive bribery scheme to get rich parents kids into top level schools has broken.

Explains a lot: Bribe the testers and school athletic directors, get your kid into an Ivy League school, she graduates with a degree in Interpretive Lesbian Dance, gets hired by a leftist think tank and ends up on CNN.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at March 12, 2019 06:37 PM (T09ml)

403 Good post. I read it all!

Posted by: Chris M at March 12, 2019 06:37 PM (opHsK)

404 The executive order would be signed with an ink produced by crushing up
Viagra tablets and mixing them with panther blood and cobra venom.
.Pure poetry.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at March 12, 2019 06:37 PM (b6kHD)

405 368 Consider Kilimanjaro. My SNL did it about 5 years ago. Did the homework. Did the prep. Said it was a great climb/walk and exhilarating at the tip.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 06:23 PM (0tfLf)

Kilimanjaro has always fascinated me. It's a huge mountain, and basically goes from equatorial to arctic climes.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 12, 2019 06:28 PM (xPJvm)


"...above the Ser-en-get-EEE..."

Toto sucks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 06:37 PM (zBaqJ)

406 403 Good post. I read it all!
Posted by: Chris M at March 12, 2019 06:37 PM (opHsK)


You're only supposed to read the comments.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 06:38 PM (zBaqJ)

407 385 Nurse Ratchet/Insom sighting in the ONT.

Cue the slow disco music
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at M



didn't someone have shot of them strolling on weekend ont?
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 06:31 PM (MTjB1)

Well she did mention she might be in love on the gun thread, but she was also talking up a 1911, so who knows.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (Io8AJ)

The lovebirds are off canoodling.

And yes, the Nurse has a Rock Island 1911 now.

Is nice.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 06:38 PM (xJa6I)

408 I'm sure Chelsea Clinton got into Stanford purely on the basis of her academic excellence.
Posted by: The ARC of History at March 12, 2019 05:36 PM (I2/tG)

You're right. It's because she's stunningly beautiful like her mother.

Posted by: Sooner at March 12, 2019 06:38 PM (qxneL)

409 This action by the president is a good first step. I'd also make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy.


Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM

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I disagree. You break it you buy it should be the norm in student loans if the Federal Government is going to be the top dog in the student loan business. The Federal Government is not in the forgiveness business.


If, and it's a big if, the Fed steps out of the student loan business, then yes make those loans dischargable like any other non collateral loan you get from a lending institution.

We would see some serious reduction in student loans for frivolous degrees like black african transgendered womens studies.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 12, 2019 06:38 PM (JUOKG)

410 Well, the massive bribery scheme to get rich parents kids into top level schools has broken.

Next up: The Upper Class Twit of the Year Competition

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 12, 2019 06:38 PM (oVJmc)

411 I'm seriously thinking about doing an Everest trek next year to mark my emotional healing

Do you just mean base-camp? I think just that step would be a major experience. Coming back alive is always a bonus.

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 06:39 PM (elfAG)

412 They []McConnell and Ryan]ndo what they're paid to do and we're not their employers.
Voters - we've got millions of em all over the country.

Posted by: DaveA at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (FhXTo)


This is about me isn't it?


Posted by: Xi Jinping at March 12, 2019 06:39 PM (ePWRo)

413 Make all admissions entirely race and sex neutral. SAT scores with identifying numbers only - no names or addresses. Everyone above (insert whatever cutoff you like) SAT score goes into a lottery, and the winners are admitted. That would eliminate all sex and race based bias. Scholarship money is then added on the basis of need. Easy peasy. Think of the thousands of admission officers you can cut loose, the millions of hours on bullshit essays you can dispense with.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at March 12, 2019 06:33 PM (AJj50)


Also make it illegal to refer to any extra-curricular activities that indicate your race or sex.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 06:39 PM (oRUl9)

414 The Barrel is not a Hugbox.


It most certainly is not.


And whatever you do, if you see a big blonde Bier Maiden in the Barrel named Inga, don't let her hug you. Because she's not a Bier Maiden, she's really not named Inga, and she's definitely not blonde.
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 12, 2019 05:41 PM (sLicW)

Oh, what experience teaches one....

Posted by: MarcusZ1967 at March 12, 2019 06:40 PM (cfMWI)

415 I think there's a "friendzone" analogy to the bits about neo-cucks being risk averse and "nice" with the lefties.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at March 12, 2019 06:40 PM (Sk/5h)

416 Well, the massive bribery scheme to get rich parents kids into top level schools has broken.

How does one defraud a system that offers and accepts payment for Gender Studies? And gleefully enforces Affirmative Action?

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 06:40 PM (elfAG)

417 Always thought student loans from government was just a big funnel to pay Leftist Seminaries, and how quick Leftists are to forgive those loans to be paid by taxpayers.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 06:41 PM (BbGew)

418
Do you just mean base-camp? I think just that step would be a major experience. Coming back alive is always a bonus.
Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 06:39 PM (elfAG)

Yes. I just mean base camp. Hard but entirely doable.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:41 PM (eAMlh)

419 I'll disagree with the boss on one thing, calling in poker is not always weak.

Depends on where you sit - you could just "pass" and let the bluffed make a move if you think the pigeon sits after you in the deal...

Posted by: Boswell at March 12, 2019 06:41 PM (32YRo)

420 Students applying for loans to study gender studies and the social sciences should not be qualified for loans. It's high time we treat the humanities and social science and women's-gender-queer what ever studies like we do cake decorating, they can go to night school and pay two hundred bucks for their "Education".

Posted by: Rose at March 12, 2019 06:42 PM (Ot5t8)

421 The whole never fight thing is why I left the GOP. The wimp factor turned my stomach.





Actual card carry Libertarian. Sure people point and laugh, then I bring up the GOP and then point and laugh.





Posted by: nip at March 12, 2019 06:36 PM

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And I point and laugh at the libertarian party. How serious can they be when legalizing marijuana/drugs is at the top of their platform?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 12, 2019 06:42 PM (JUOKG)

422 Are there enough Melania body doubles for all of us?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 06:43 PM (eAMlh)

423 My wife was taking a new Nurse to shadow her, she had 2 degrees and went to a 2 year school for her RN both degrees were useless, art history and Sports management and she had over 150 grand in debt. How the hell was she going to pay off her debt with a Nursing job.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 12, 2019 06:08 PM (dKiJG)



This is why you have to be Ve-e-e-e-e-e-ery careful who you marry.

Her debt becomes your debt should you marry her.

If I were a young man thinking of marriage, I'd definitely have a credit check run on her.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2019 06:43 PM (9X624)

424 Yes, this, every freakin' word.

On fire, Ace !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 12, 2019 06:44 PM (wA4OO)

425 The lovebirds are off canoodling.

And yes, the Nurse has a Rock Island 1911 now.

Is nice.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 06:38 PM (xJa6I)

Still? I thought this was just a weekend thing.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 06:45 PM (Io8AJ)

426 Let's make college affordable for everyone, the politicians said. What they did was provide easy money in the form of guaranteed loans which, in turn, caused tuition to skyrocket. This is what happens when stupid people acquire power, i.e. Politicians.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:45 PM (gC2IV)

427
And I point and laugh at the libertarian party. How serious can they be when legalizing marijuana/drugs is at the top of their platform?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman


Well, that AND open borders.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 12, 2019 06:45 PM (aKsyK)

428 I hate the fact that great thinkers like Ace have to even spend the time talking about jizz-buckets like David French and Bill Kristol........

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at March 12, 2019 06:46 PM (5AVMW)

429 Meh, I think we can all agree that the Libertarian and the Republican Party are junk

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 06:46 PM (39g3+)

430 Well, that AND open borders.

....

Did they remove making sure penis-sippers could marry as their number 1 priority?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 06:47 PM (51k37)

431 How did AOC get into any college?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 12, 2019 06:47 PM (oFRFY)

432 and she had over 150 grand in debt.

Do people today even know that college used to be affordable? And that it was probably because there weren't many loans available?

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 06:47 PM (Zo1XC)

433 put the loans under CFPB. what's good for the goose is good for Liz Warren's gander. skin in the game indeed.

these student loans are the most subprime, no income verification, no ability to repay, defaulted on loans ever. why should they be exempt from normal lending regulations.

at least with subprime real estate loans you got a house. with these, you get a degree in shit studies. and it's been dumbed down to high school level, so you're really paying for shit that taxpayers already paid for.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2019 06:47 PM (nFwvY)

434 Well, that AND open borders.



....



Did they remove making sure penis-sippers could marry as their number 1 priority?



Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 06:47 PM

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No it's still item 1.4 on their platform.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 12, 2019 06:48 PM (JUOKG)

435 And I point and laugh at the libertarian party. How serious can they be when legalizing marijuana/drugs is at the top of their platform?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

Well, that AND open borders.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

----

One good thing about legalizing pot is that it might cause the libertarian party to finally just go away.

Posted by: RKae at March 12, 2019 06:48 PM (Rd8+4)

436 How did AOC get into any college?

Thank you, you've passed the audition! *zip*

Posted by: "Professor" Harvey Weinstein at March 12, 2019 06:48 PM (Zo1XC)

437 Who would ever thing an institution of higher learning would admit an inadmissible student for a $500,000.00 padding to their coffers?

Have you no shame? They have ethics you know.
Character building is one of the major tenets we imbue to our students.



Huh, 75 and he's shoe in.

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:48 PM (ePWRo)

438 When I went to college, tuition was $10 per credit hour.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:48 PM (gC2IV)

439
Did they remove making sure penis-sippers could marry as their number 1 priority?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger


You don't need to do that which has already been done.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 12, 2019 06:49 PM (aKsyK)

440


How did AOC get into any college?


Kneepads?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 06:49 PM (HaL55)

441 438 When I went to college, tuition was $10 per credit hour.

....

And you probably learned things as well.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 06:49 PM (51k37)

442 OT-I need some advice. Does this sound like the opening gambit in a scam to you? I just got it in my personal e-mail, There is no mention of the church or my name:


Hello. My name is _____. I am new in the neighborhood and am looking for a church to worship on Sundays. I am a Black African. I was
a____(church denomination). I hope there is no discrimination here in the church of God.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:49 PM (AllCR)

443 DaveA, there's a lot more going on than just donors. That is, things are even worse than you imply.


Was away all day and missed the post on the college admissions thing.


Happy to see in the comments here, and so far unanimously in my few personal interactions about it, many whose first reaction is "huh? who cares? how about enforcing important laws?".


As if college admissions is some pure and holy institution untainted by any impropriety. I think I even heard the prosecutor, in a radio snippet, unintentionally mocking his own crusade by saying "see, this isn't like a wealthy person donating a building to help his kid's chances at admission, this is about fraud". English needs new terms, even new concepts, for the heights of breath-taking unintentional self-parody being pioneered by what pass for public servants in the US.


I have the added bonus of never having heard the names of the actors before, or of course caring who they were/are. Guess this makes it a sub-non-story.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 12, 2019 06:50 PM (QDnY+)

444 No it's still item 1.4 on their platform.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 12, 2019 06:48 PM (JUOKG)

They were gonna update their platform, but then they got high.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:50 PM (t6MX/)

445 I'd end student loans. tuition would plunge overnight. diversity coordinators would learn to code. poorly.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2019 06:50 PM (nFwvY)

446 This action by the president is a good first step. I'd also make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

All student debt should be collateralized with some current marketable asset (not future earnings) that the bankruptcy court can liquidate, otherwise discharge is meaningless to the debt holder - right now student debt is junk status. And the Feds need to get out of the junk debt that student loans are, like now.

Posted by: Boswell at March 12, 2019 06:50 PM (32YRo)

447 Applicants with star power go to the front of the line.

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:50 PM (ePWRo)

448 I've been away from commenting since yesterday, so that the Name field still had my last sock in it: "Brie Larson's previous buttocks", which I had to clear.

This post is my first peek at the HQ today. Scrolling down the main page.

Holy smokes Ace EN FUEGO today!

Posted by: Hands at March 12, 2019 06:50 PM (786Ro)

449 I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it--people like me.

Posted by: Stuart Smalley Republicans at March 12, 2019 06:51 PM (vDqXW)

450 >>>How did AOC get into any college?<<<

Let's just say the endowment was more than just a pair of honeynips.

Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2019 06:51 PM (LuPts)

451 Sorry. Jumpy computer, "I was a ____________(church denomination ) back in my country.
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I welcome everyone, but I have never gotten an e-mail e-mail like this and am leery

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:51 PM (AllCR)

452 Such a proposal could be included in a coming executive order addressing higher education, several officials said...

The order the White House is preparing, expected in coming weeks and lead by the president's daughter Ivanka Trump, will likely touch on several hot-button issues in higher education,



If Ivanka wants something, Daddy won't say no. Here comes the executive order to make Ivanka's sadz go away.

Posted by: Hands at March 12, 2019 06:52 PM (786Ro)

453
And you probably learned things as well.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 06:49 PM (51k37)

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Yes, I are smarterer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:52 PM (gC2IV)

454

OT-I need some advice. Does this sound like the opening gambit in a
scam to you? I just got it in my personal e-mail, There is no mention of
the church or my name:





Hello. My name is _____. I am new in the neighborhood and am looking
for a church to worship on Sundays. I am a Black African. I was

a____(church denomination). I hope there is no discrimination here in the church of God.


Sounds like a scam to me. Don't open any links in them, fer sure.

No name? No church name? Yeah, it's spam.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 06:53 PM (HaL55)

455 I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it--people like when I sell out my constituency!

Posted by: Stuart Smalley Republicans at March 12, 2019 06:53 PM (vDqXW)

456 I welcome everyone, but I have never gotten an e-mail e-mail like this and am leery

Looks scammy to me

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 06:53 PM (39g3+)

457 Fen - I am thinking it's a Leftist trap, doesn't sound real to me.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 06:53 PM (BbGew)

458 He can't keep the kids from playing with daddy's weather machine. How in the world can you expect him to deny Ivanca?

Posted by: Braenyard en tanto delicto at March 12, 2019 06:54 PM (ePWRo)

459 When I went to college, tuition was $10 per credit hour.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 06:48 PM (gC2IV)

I ain't far behind you.

Made $6.00 an hour and put myself through school with $5K of debt.

$61 a month for 10 years.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 06:54 PM (OE84+)

460 If Ivanka wants something, Daddy won't say no. Here comes the executive order to make Ivanka's sadz go away.


Posted by: Hands at March 12, 2019 06:52 PM

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I heard that exact same statement at least 25 times on illegals getting DACA protection....didn't happen then and it ain't gonna happen now.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (JUOKG)

461 I welcome everyone, but I have never gotten an e-mail e-mail like this and am leery

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:51 PM (AllCR)

It appears to be a scam or phishing attempt. If it a person in real need, there would have been no fill in the blanks. Just kidding. If there is real interest, the person will follow up.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (t6MX/)

462 Read about Evergreen State College in Spokane. No real courses, mostly you study what you want, get the degree in the usual things that only is good when doing studies on the matting call of Lesbians, stuff like that. But it is a degree from a state college.....

Posted by: Colin at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (bauKl)

463 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:49 PM (AllCR)

Yes. Person could look up a local denomination online, for crying out loud.

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (qll3d)

464 I welcome everyone, but I have never gotten an e-mail e-mail like this and am leery
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


tell him you are opening a chain of burrito restaurants in Nigeria and you need his bank account number in order to make a large deposit because you are a prince.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (nFwvY)

465 Hello. My name is _____. I am new in the neighborhood and am looking
for a church to worship on Sundays. I am a Black African. I was

a____(church denomination). I hope there is no discrimination here in the church of God.


Scam. If you're "new in the neighborhood", just walk around.

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (Zo1XC)

466 Sorry. Jumpy computer, "I was a ____________(church denomination ) back in my country.
-------------

I welcome everyone, but I have never gotten an e-mail e-mail like this and am leery
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:51 PM (AllCR)

I'd ignore.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (Io8AJ)

467 457 - Trap is wrong word, More like a fishing expedition

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 06:56 PM (BbGew)

468 Hello. My name is _____. I am new in the neighborhood and am looking for a church to worship on Sundays. I am a Black African. I was
a____(church denomination). I hope there is no discrimination here in the church of God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:49 PM (AllCR)

Somali grifter?

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 06:56 PM (OE84+)

469 There aren't any attachments. Just "Hope to hear from you soon."

Why wouldn't you just say something like "I am from Liberia" not a "Black African"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:56 PM (AllCR)

470 OT-I need some advice. Does this sound like the opening gambit in a scam to you? I just got it in my personal e-mail, There is no mention of the church or my name:


Hello. My name is _____. I am new in the neighborhood and am looking for a church to worship on Sundays. I am a Black African. I was
a____(church denomination). I hope there is no discrimination here in the church of God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:49 PM (AllCR)

---------------------

"Dear__________,

I can assure you that our Church is open to and welcomes all. Please feel free to stop by any of our public services to gauge whether our Church suits your needs. I hope to see you at a service soon".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 06:56 PM (ffYR/)

471 I'd ignore.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (Io8AJ)

That would be best.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 06:57 PM (OE84+)

472 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (t6MX/)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:57 PM (AllCR)

473 Serious question: Do you think Lori Laughlin girls put out? Or is this 'partying' they're into just getting drunk in public and going 'woo' and maybe giving you a handy if they think you're cute while not taking their bottoms off?

I've been giving this a lot of thought.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 06:57 PM (xJa6I)

474 >>>How did AOC get into any college?
......

Face down ass up on the admissions officer's couch?

Posted by: did I say that out loud? at March 12, 2019 06:57 PM (v0R5T)

475 Sounds fishy to me Fenelon.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2019 06:58 PM (dUJdY)

476 472-Sorry. Flounder. There were no no blanks. Just for privacy info I didn't put what they had in what I blanked out

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:58 PM (AllCR)

477 476
472-Sorry. Flounder. There were no no blanks. Just for privacy info I didn't put what they had in what I blanked out

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 06:58 PM (AllCR)

Yeah, that's why I joked about fill in the blanks.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 06:59 PM (t6MX/)

478 "Dear__________,

I can assure you that our Church is open to and welcomes all. Please feel free to stop by any of our public services to gauge whether our Church suits your needs. I hope to see you at a service soon".
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 06:56 PM (ffYR/)

Calm Mentor displays grace that of which I am trying to emulate.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 06:59 PM (OE84+)

479 I wouldn't ignore this one, but I'd be very general in my reply and gave out zero personal info, not even I am a pastor at First Church of the AoSHQ. Just a generic list of the local denomination the person mentioned.

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 07:00 PM (qll3d)

480 (454) Pouring the foundation for a class-action suit. Civil Rights variety.

Posted by: Burger Chef at March 12, 2019 07:00 PM (RuIsu)

481 Posted by: Colin at March 12, 2019 06:55 PM (bauKl)



It's not in Spokane.

Posted by: Ha at March 12, 2019 07:01 PM (MAstk)

482 he'll know you're not at home on Sunday and know how far away you are. (i'm the paranoid type).

Posted by: hte guy who likes Zombeavers the movie at March 12, 2019 07:01 PM (bVc72)

483 I think Fen blanked out the info, not that the person left it blank.

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 07:01 PM (qll3d)

484 Essentially, once the feds quite backstopping student debt, and a student who has no history of earnings, or can't show an ongoing earning path, is not a going concern, so lending them anything uncollateralized becomes business malpractice. Sure, there's a market for junk, but the interest rates and/or returns on strips or pools would balloon to 20-25% plus.

Loans would be rare except for doctor interns or dentists/vets...

Posted by: Boswell at March 12, 2019 07:01 PM (32YRo)

485 CNN lawsuit filed.

Posted by: Ha at March 12, 2019 07:02 PM (MAstk)

486 nothing wrong with that letter, though you should ask how black.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:02 PM (MTjB1)

487 478 "Dear__________,

I can assure you that our Church is open to and welcomes all. Please feel free to stop by any of our public services to gauge whether our Church suits your needs. I hope to see you at a service soon".
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 06:56 PM (ffYR/)

Calm Mentor displays grace that of which I am trying to emulate.
Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 06:59 PM (OE84+)

This is how people cause themselves problems.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 07:02 PM (Io8AJ)

488 he'll know you're not at home on Sunday and know how far away you are. (i'm the paranoid type).

Me too. Too many wierdos out there.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2019 07:03 PM (dUJdY)

489 That's a very fine answer, CM. If the writer is sincere, he'll come to a service. If it was some kind of scam, he'll never show up, and the issue will have been dealt with.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 07:03 PM (Kpl3J)

490 something of a class action foundation feel though I would be more worried had they said they were irish.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:03 PM (MTjB1)

491 nothing wrong with that letter, though you should ask how black.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:02 PM (MTjB1)

"We could use a few more darkies in our church. Come on by!!!!"

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 07:04 PM (Io8AJ)

492 sure you are welcome, we welcome everyone, but your should bring money, lots.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:04 PM (MTjB1)

493 I can assure you that our Church is open to and welcomes all. Please feel free to stop by any of our public services to gauge whether our Church suits your needs. I hope to see you at a service soon".
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 06:56 PM (ffYR/)

Calm Mentor displays grace that of which I am trying to emulate.
Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 06:59 PM (OE84+)

This is how people cause themselves problems.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 07:02 PM (Io8AJ)

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I'm not sure I understand your comment.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 07:05 PM (ffYR/)

494 This is how people cause themselves problems.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 07:02 PM (Io8AJ)

????

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 07:05 PM (OE84+)

495 Oh shit.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 07:05 PM (OE84+)

496 we would love to have you here, could you email verification of circumcision?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:05 PM (MTjB1)

497 we would love to have you here, could you email verification of circumcision?
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:05 PM (MTjB1)

I'm down.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at March 12, 2019 07:07 PM (OE84+)

498 493 Didn't get that either Calm

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 07:07 PM (BbGew)

499 Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:05 PM (MTjB1)

Hi English might be limited. She should just ask for dick pics. I think that's Universally understood.

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 07:07 PM (qll3d)

500 488 he'll know you're not at home on Sunday and know how far away you are. (i'm the paranoid type). "

It seems logical that Fenelon received that because of her clerical work. Given that, it's pretty obvious where she'll be on Sunday, it's not a secret.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 07:07 PM (Kpl3J)

501

"I can assure you that our Church is open to and welcomes all. Please feel
free to stop by any of our public services to gauge whether our Church
suits your needs. I hope to see you at a service soon".


"And if you wish to attend any of our private services, those are every Friday and Saturday night with a full moon. Attire is all black. Please bring a small woodland animal, preferably alive."
"Oh, and bring candles. Lots of candles. And some chalk. We go through a lot of candles and chalk."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 07:07 PM (HaL55)

502 Hi English might be limited. She should just ask for dick pics. I think that's Universally understood.
Posted by: red headed 'ette at M


lol

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:08 PM (MTjB1)

503 I'm not sure why I thought eating and reading this blog was a good idea... half my dinner is on the monitor.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2019 07:08 PM (dUJdY)

504 The kollege student loan scam has gone on for far too long.

All those overpaid, underworked, oversexed professors are ripe for justice.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2019 07:08 PM (Z+IKu)

505 ?

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 07:08 PM (OE84+)

506 That's a very fine answer, CM. If the writer is sincere, he'll come to a service. If it was some kind of scam, he'll never show up, and the issue will have been dealt with.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 07:03 PM (Kpl3J)

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Thanks. I was going for welcoming while not even mentioning race as part of the discussion.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 07:08 PM (ffYR/)

507 Jewells how was the gem show? (This is Tammy)

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 07:09 PM (qll3d)

508 Hey Tammy It was awesome!! I was in paradise! lol

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2019 07:10 PM (dUJdY)

509 This is how people cause themselves problems.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy

Calm is a good person - he is unusual among our species in that he intends to return to his fellow man the graces he has received.

That doesn't make him naÔve but a disciple of Christ.

Posted by: Boswell at March 12, 2019 07:10 PM (32YRo)

510 Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2019 07:10 PM (dUJdY)

Yay!!!! I have not been to many, but have really enjoyed the ones I did go to.

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 07:10 PM (qll3d)

511 O.K. Maybe I am too suspicious a person but my church is on a back street and why wouldn't they say what neighborhood they moved into?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 07:11 PM (AllCR)

512 Thanks. I was going for welcoming while not even mentioning race as part of the discussion. "

Yes, the inclusion of race in the original letter is odd, since it shouldn't ever be part of a discussion like this. It's not necessarily a red flag, more of a yellow one, since there are people who find this the most important identifier about themselves. Still, it's grounds for caution.

(possibility exists that it could be someone fishing for a race insensitive response, for reasons unknown)

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 07:12 PM (Kpl3J)

513 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 07:11 PM (AllCR)

Because they're waiting for you to volunteer that info so they can rob you while you're preaching?

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 07:12 PM (qll3d)

514 This is how people cause themselves problems.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 07:02 PM (Io8AJ)



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I'm not sure I understand your comment.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 07:05 PM (ffYR/)

If people try to emulate something they are not, here, grace, they might pull or strain something.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 07:13 PM (t6MX/)

515 Note to self. Never ask the horde for advice. Ever. On any subject.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 07:13 PM (gC2IV)

516 Northern screamers have small air bubbles in the skin, which produce a crackling sound when pressed. Males also lack a penis. They can usually be found in the editorial rooms of National Review and The Bulwark.
https://twitter.com/StrangeAnimaIs/status/1105201057641218048

I may have added some words to that.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 12, 2019 07:13 PM (ykYG2)

517

O.K. Maybe I am too suspicious a person but my church is on a back
street and why wouldn't they say what neighborhood they moved into?


Why not just show up for a Sunday service instead and see for themself? Yeah, something sounds "off." I've learned to trust that intuition over the years.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressives at March 12, 2019 07:13 PM (HaL55)

518 you run your church however you want, no one says churches cannot be racist or discriminate.


get their hood size.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:14 PM (MTjB1)

519 Oh I don't think the race thing is all that odd, on the very slim chance that he is a new immigrant filled with stories about evil racist Americans. Lot's of white Africans.

But I do think it's a scam.

Posted by: red headed 'ette at March 12, 2019 07:14 PM (qll3d)

520 Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 07:13 PM (gC2IV)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 07:15 PM (AllCR)

521 Jesus loved all neighbors.

Copy paste CM.

That was excellent.

Nevertheless, and I do when welcoming, keep the candelabra nearby.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 07:15 PM (OE84+)

522 you get their address so you will be able to rob them while they are at your church.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:15 PM (MTjB1)

523 No Irish.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 07:16 PM (t6MX/)

524 511 O.K. Maybe I am too suspicious a person but my church is on a back street and why wouldn't they say what neighborhood they moved into?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 07:11 PM (AllCR)

It does read like a form letter (even with the blanks filled in) which is strange. Although maybe this person sent a lot of identical letters out. but still... there's something very artificial about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 07:17 PM (Kpl3J)

525 No Irish.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at M


lol

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 12, 2019 07:17 PM (MTjB1)

526 Sorry; Duke, Jumpy computer. I would ever ask them about relationship advice but this seems o.k.

The time for our service is on the website. It seems on odd letter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 07:17 PM (AllCR)

527 Fenelon is robbing people via e-mail?!?

(Yes, glasses are broken. How did You Know?)

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 12, 2019 07:17 PM (/+bwe)

528 527
Fenelon is robbing people via e-mail?!?



(Yes, glasses are broken. How did You Know?)

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 12, 2019 07:17 PM (/+bwe)

She is crafting her phishing letter with the horde's help.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 07:18 PM (t6MX/)

529 It does read like a form letter (even with the blanks filled in) which is strange. Although maybe this person sent a lot of identical letters out. but still... there's something very artificial about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 07:17 PM (Kpl3J)

There are a lot out there looking for a lawsuit.

Posted by: golfman at March 12, 2019 07:18 PM (OE84+)

530 Oh I know CM is a good guy, that wasn't a criticism of him st all.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 12, 2019 07:18 PM (Io8AJ)

531 522 you get their address so you will be able to rob them while they are at your church."

but as I understand, they would just need to know where the Church itself is located, which I assume is very public information.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 07:18 PM (Kpl3J)

532 Do your church members have access to your personal email? I'd wonder how the person has it.

You never know, it may be a when Jesus Came to Dinner moment.

Posted by: slowdown at March 12, 2019 07:18 PM (E+yET)

533 I just got VDHs The Case for Trump and will start reading it when my glasses are replaced.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 12, 2019 07:19 PM (/+bwe)

534 Go with your gut Fenelon. If you think it's off then it is. I would ignore it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2019 07:19 PM (dUJdY)

535 475 Sounds fishy to me Fenelon.

hmm. speaking of fishy, mrs. chronda gave me some fish oil gummies. she'll probably ask me whether i ate any when i get home...

Posted by: Anachronda at March 12, 2019 07:19 PM (sGtp+)

536 Nood.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 07:20 PM (t6MX/)

537 She is crafting her phishing letter with the horde's help.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 07:18 PM

Make sure your letter includes that your church has no teetotalers, so bring money for the keg deposit, too!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 12, 2019 07:21 PM (/+bwe)

538 Do your church members have access to your personal email? I'd wonder how the person has it.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 07:21 PM (AllCR)

539 The Progressives run on winning, on Progressing their agenda.

The GOP has, for my entire life run on an agenda of slowing down the Progressives.

Not winning. Not actually limiting government. Not decreasing spending.

Just slowing down the Left's wins.

Obamacare is a prime example. They could have killed it when they had both houses and the Presidency, instead it is still law.

And they will once again run on repealing Obamacare.

Because if they actually solved that problem, they think they would not have anything to run on.

Posted by: Don Quixote, dreaming the impossible dream at March 12, 2019 07:21 PM (NgKpN)

540 My personal e-mail is not on the website but my church members have access to it,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 07:23 PM (AllCR)

541 I would suggest delete. If they are sincere they will try again.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 12, 2019 07:27 PM (bFSXM)

542 Fen, the only tweak I'd suggest to Calm's response is to add

"There are many welcoming churches in this city, and I'd suggest you visit several of them before deciding on a new and more permanent church home!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 12, 2019 07:29 PM (CMq2e)

543 Surely all this ""l'audace" concept has been explicated and executed by NO-ONE better than Sen. Mitch "LongGame" McConnell!"

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at March 12, 2019 07:53 PM (ixZj7)

544 "292 People should start mailing one, just one, french fry to the Tater with a simple note "Who will be next?". Maybe enclose a ketchup pack."

Inspired and made me laugh, but even before the Three Deceive-o's pass their protection bill this would cause the SDNY to empanel a grand jury and cost you millions in "legal" costs.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 12, 2019 08:18 PM (iw59Q)

545 Re; the University System needs a Reckoning "
the University System needs a Reaming".
IOWS a colonoscopy.
Each polyp and ( tenured tumor) clipped immediately ,sent to bio waste bin of history, salted and incinerated.
FIFY, Garrett.

Posted by: Honorable Gastronomic at March 12, 2019 09:08 PM (sO3eN)

546 The college loan scam is another cog in the' destroy the middle class' wheel of the Alinskyists.
Cause it sure doesn't hurt the Hollyweird Parents with enough cash to buy their brats a tier one degree.

Posted by: Subway mngt w/throwaway phones and clotheslines. at March 12, 2019 09:17 PM (sO3eN)

547 Gosh darn you, you made me laugh so loud I woke up my children.
You never want to wake up your children at 4:00 am, nothing good follows that.

Posted by: Katherine at March 14, 2019 07:01 AM (5p9SP)

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