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Trump About to Sign Bill That Drastically Limits His Ability to Build a Wall and Deport Illegals
He'll also declare a national emergency, but this bill itself restricts his ability to move money around to build the wall.
Fox live viewer here.You know, a long time ago, I knew a guy who was a senior legislative staffer for a Republican congressman. He told me that Democrats routinely build traps and poison pills into bills. Sometimes, for example, they'll pretend to concede a legal point to Republicans, but then they'll deliberately write the law in such an aggressive way that they know a liberal interest group will challenge it as unconstitutional and easily win, because it was written to be unconstitutional. And thus, the "concession" granted by the Democrats disappears like morning mist, but the concessions granted by Republicans -- usually about money -- remain. The Democrats win it all. But you probably knew that. And that's not the point I'm making. Here's the point I'm making: I asked him why Republicans don't take this crap out of bills -- are they incompetent? "No," he told me. "They know they're in there. They want them there. They want the credit for having gotten what appears to be a conservative victory, but they're actually liberal-leaning (or at least they fear a liberal backlash at home) and they want Democrats to 'steal' their victory away." So anyway, this guy was always trying to take this garbage out of bills, and his Republican colleagues were fighting to keep this shit in. He told me this like 12, 13 years ago. He is who he says he is (his resume is genuine) and he never gave me reason to think he wasn't generally honest. Failure Theater. And now I fear that Trump has been enlisted as a Lead in this latest performance of Failure Theater, scripted by "Republicans" who pretend to be conservative but ho are actually very much aligned with the urban cosmopolitan liberals. Krikorian points out the Democrat traps, which were almost certainly agreed to by McConnell and Co.
[T]he news that the Dems agreed to $1.375 billion for the construction of "primary pedestrian fencing" (i.e., high barriers, not the low ones intended simply to stop vehicles, in places where there’s none now) seemed like a win. It's not. That’s because the bill allows the fencing to be built only in the Rio Grande Valley Sector in South Texas. It's surely needed there, but real barriers are also needed elsewhere, such as the parts of the Arizona or New Mexico borders where there’s only vehicle fencing. But the Democrats had a reason for this limitation. The bill states: [paraphrase: Fencing can only be built with the permission of local mayors] In other words, local governments would have an effective veto over whether barriers would be constructed. And which party controls all local government in South Texas? Go ahead, look it up, I'll wait. Rio Grande City is the least Democratic community in the area, and even there voters supported Hillary Clinton in 2016 by more than three to one.So the border itself is in Democrat hands, and you need the support of Democrat local leaders to build the wall. This means, of course, that no walls may be built. Furthermore, this scotches Trump's (claimed) plan to do this by Emergency order, because legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by the President would supersede the vague general powers the President would claim under the various statutes concerning national emergencies. The specific trumps the general. The general powers conferred by statute for emergency authorization would be limited by the quite-specific limitations in the very spending bill Trump is signing. Trump would sign a piece of paper forbidding him to do that which he claims he will next do on his own authority. Krikorian continues... and it gets even worse. Basically, Trump would give up any ability to deport most illegal aliens.
The second poison pill is even worse. Section 224 states:There are already a huge number of Unaccompanied Alien Children in the US. Each is now a human shield protecting anyone in who could even potentially be a sponsor in the future from deportation. And of course this makes UACs, who have already been Golden Tickets into the US, that much more valuable, and they will therefore become Standard Traveling Gear for all illegal aliens. Trump must refuse to sign this bill, demand Congress pass a one-week funding CR, demand Congress strip this bullshit out of the bill and then resubmit it. Or else he's selling us out. And he can't pretend he doesn't know -- he knows. We've seen Failure Theater performed enough times. We don't need to see it again. And let me say this about that cocksucker McConnell: this rat bastard and saboteur is many things, but he is not stupid and he is not uninformed about legislation. He knows this stuff is in the bill. He helped put it there, and he's a key part of the sales effort to lie to the rubes once again and tell them it's not in there. Until we pass it, and then, oops! Tricked again! Those darned Democrats got us, but if you send us money and vote extra hard for us, we promise, next time we'll get 'em....In other words, this would mean that ICE cannot detain or remove anyone who has effectively any relationship with an "unaccompanied" minor -- either because they’re sponsors, in the same household as sponsors, or even just "potential sponsors" (or in the household of potential sponsors!) of such a child.
None of the funds provided by this act...may be used by the Secretary of Homeland Security to place in detention, remove, refer for a decision whether to initiate removal proceedings, or initiate removal proceedings against a sponsor, potential sponsor, or member of a household of a sponsor or potential sponsor of an unaccompanied alien child.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:29 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 15, 2019 10:29 AM (6qErC)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:29 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: IanDeal at February 15, 2019 10:29 AM (4zQrR)
Posted by: Carpe Manana at February 15, 2019 10:30 AM (PbH71)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:30 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:31 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2019 10:32 AM (UGqF8)
Posted by: Surfperch at February 15, 2019 10:32 AM (QSdIk)
The Pawtamack two step...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 15, 2019 10:32 AM (6qErC)
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 10:32 AM (xv43o)
Posted by: ... at February 15, 2019 10:32 AM (igQcG)
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (BJlbN)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (7ZQe3)
They are disgusting power hungry scum.
I wish there were not so many stupid Americans. (and there are A LOT)
Posted by: Charlotte the sailor at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (lGLBx)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (bcbK
I take my bitterness with bourbon and a splash of vermouth.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (AURKQ)
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (3sjI6)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (iXnsK)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (bcbK
I take my bitterness with bourbon and a splash of vermouth.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (AURKQ)
Bourbon makes bitterness bearable
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (a4/Ug)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (OLCnA)
Congress is united -- with a veto proof margin -- for open borders.
Posted by: Revenant at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (NUNXH)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (I2dne)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (xyung)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: espanostifer at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (U7FPi)
Because there is going to be a civil war in this country, sooner rather than later.
I hope that the heads of all of these traitors are put on spikes surrounding DC and that people can spit on them as they pass flipping the bird.
Posted by: Charlotte the sailor at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (lGLBx)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (O2RFr)
+++++++++++
It took a while for Disney's "imagineers" to make a good animatronic replica.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (I2dne)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (7ZQe3)
And let me say this about that cocksucker McConnell: this rat bastard
and saboteur is many things, but he is not stupid and he is not
uninformed about legislation.
He knows this stuff is in the bill.
*types* *deletes*
PDT speaking. Is it too early for vodka?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: WisRich at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (G0vdT)
The Press.
Their family.
Their friends.
Their property.
People who got jobs from them.
People who donated to their campaigns.
People who worked on their election campaigns.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:36 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 10:36 AM (a4/Ug)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (ptqGC)
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No. I actually have a liter and a half of whiskey at my desk right now because it was just given to me as a birthday gift. I'm sorely tempted.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 15, 2019 10:36 AM (I2dne)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (ptqGC)
Bourbon is the drink of the day!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:36 AM (bcbK8)
Bush declared a National Emergency to protect Belarusians.
Obama declares a National Emergency to protect Burundians.
Trump declared a National Emergency to protect Americans.
See the difference?
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 10:36 AM (xv43o)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 15, 2019 10:36 AM (OLCnA)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (ptqGC)
It's NEVER too early for vodka. Grey Goose is always appropriate!
Posted by: Charlotte the sailor at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (lGLBx)
When does Pence down a bottle of vodka, clamber up on a tank and go deal
with this Yeltsin-style?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (I2dne)
Maybe Trump needs to do a shot of Tequila. Drinking and smoking seemed to get Barry whatever the mincing twit wanted.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:34 AM (O2RFr)
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Ahem:
"The Supreme Court's public information office told The Hill Ginsburg was attending the meeting in which the justices consider requests to review cases."
Again, pics or it didn't happen.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (xyung)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (xfb67)
i'd prefer a gov't shutdown....i've never met a gov't shutdown i didn't
like.....sorry not sorry.....but i won't hate on trump for this.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM
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Me neither. Trump has to play the hand he is dealt. He can't do this by himself and that is the way it should be because you know there is another obama right around the Presidential corner.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (JUOKG)
Zod Sumter.
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (ptqGC)
This has been evident for decades. Since nothing was done to enforce the laws that Congress itself passed, even through changes in party control, it's obvious that the power structure wants the flood.
Even their own authority as the authors of immigration law is secondary to maintaining that flow of new underlings.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM (iXnsK)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:38 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: nip at February 15, 2019 10:38 AM (DfGpI)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 10:38 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: ace at February 15, 2019 10:38 AM (PbpT7)
Posted by: DR.WTF at February 15, 2019 10:38 AM (T71PA)
"The Supreme Court's public information office told The Hill Ginsburg was attending the meeting in which the justices consider requests to review cases."
Again, pics or it didn't happen.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 15, 2019 10:37 AM
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Correct, the meeting where the public is not allowed to see the SCOTUS Justices.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 15, 2019 10:38 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: espanostifer at February 15, 2019 10:35 AM (U7FPi)
Wrong. It is a crucial part of a multiple prong fight against illegal immigration.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 10:39 AM (a4/Ug)
Posted by: kraken at February 15, 2019 10:39 AM (90T4r)
DOW up 350. Let's see what happens after this speech.
Posted by: Pete Seria
Wall Street loves open borders.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 10:39 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:39 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (AB9tT)
After Pelosi basically threatened forcible disarmament of the deplorable population, I've started hearing something.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (37IEG)
We've got one generation left, tops.
Sorry Mr. Franklin. We couldn't keep it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (xyung)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (iys0/)
I keep hoping he's going to say - Not signing it.
National Emergency
Drop mike.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (37IEG)
Same here.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: BignJames at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (cxHbL)
Posted by: CP at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (fMfXq)
He seems to be talking about it pretty bluntly.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (/tuJf)
The told him the price to not go full out against him.
To hell with the lot of them.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (6qErC)
Posted by: socalcon at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (Roy2Z)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 10:39 AM (aKsyK)
IT'S FUNNY (AND ALSO SAD) BECAUSE WALL STREET RUNS ALONG THE FORMER LOCATION OF A WALL MEANT TO PROTECT NEW YORK CITY.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (QSdIk)
Posted by: Charlie Brown at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (flINI)
So he's on her staff?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (6qErC)
Occasional Cortex is a Man?!?!
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Posted by: No at February 15, 2019 10:41 AM (vU07D)
Posted by: washrivergal at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Kcf2u)
So he's on her staff
Sounds like she's on "his."
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Russian Stooge at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (myrLZ)
But we absolutely have to make sure that those who betrayed us are dead, the more painfully the better. Men like Mitch and Paul Ryan need to be put in cages and lit on fire and filmed while they beg for their miserable lives.
Posted by: southdakota conservative at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (wg50I)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (37IEG)
Could Trump just build the wall IN Mexico, and not in the tyrant controlled counties on the border? They'd have no legal standing to say 'no' then.
And Mexico is not gonna do anything.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: hindmost at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (WXeEx)
Spectator article on "the bill" is awesome. Trump should use it as a
template (via Stephen Miller) for another speech, with the climax being
that he must veto the bill (or surrender America to 5 billion fake
refugees). "Powerful oligarchs are looking to run the world for their
enrichment, with citizens serving them"
crescendo starts with
emphasis on our unique American liberty, builds with grand points in
history to protect freedoms for Americans (and the Western world) ...
moving toward the fight against corporate/globalist desire to control us
and "conglomerate" us into indebted consumer widgets. Walls work ...
(work in El Paso example) ... and we still bring in one million per year
legally, more than any other nation.
Trump's (Miller's) SOTU
was awesome (except cratering on the H1Bs and expanding mass legal
immigration) ... but the follow up speech is needed, to show Congress is
serving the commies and the corporations, ignoring/punishing the
working American. Paint their dystopian world of 2030, if we don't stop
their anti-American infiltration. (75% would agree, if scripted to hit
the main points ... only legal merit based immigration, not welfare
state for the world)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (KvRqW)
Posted by: Revenant at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (NUNXH)
Posted by: Phil Hartmark F/K/A Truck Monkey at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (flINI)
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 10:32 AM (xv43o)
Not necessarily, and most definitely not always. I don't ever advise blind faith.
Great things are happening and not on the media time line, screw Ann Coulter, she is a fraud, as are most of the main stream conservative pearl clutchers.
Things are going great!
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (xv43o)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: Draki at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (TpAxy)
And if you AREN'T teaching your children how to prep, you are a child abuser. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Jonah Kyle at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (SH7Tr)
Posted by: keena at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (RiTnx)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (7ZQe3)
*******
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Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (BqBId)
Either veto the damned bill or sign it. We're doomed either way.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:43 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:42 AM (7ZQe3)
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Could be, but I kinda doubt it. If the House impeaches (which I think might be a given) and the Senate chooses to convict, then newly-minted President Pence will pardon DJT before the ink is dry and then Trump goes on the warpath. Even if the Senate is willing to end their careers and possibly their lives on such a stunt, the country is over if they do it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 15, 2019 10:44 AM (I2dne)
And much of our loss in the midterms was engineered by the GOPe.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:44 AM (iXnsK)
The problem again becomes a voting public who hammers the president and Republicans if you shut down the government. We can talk all day about how stupid that is, but it's a curious and foolish fact. We need to move this issue to the side and keep fighting the battles, while we talk about other things. If we don't, we lose in 2020. It's that simple.
I'm a little tired of the Failure Theater bullshit being floated by people who offer no viable or realistic alternatives.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 10:44 AM (rtTs+)
The French Yellow jackets make AOC look middle of the road, they are not the right.
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 10:44 AM (xv43o)
Your question is, can Trump unilaterally declare War on Mexico, and get everyone in Washington to say nothing about it?
It is a silly question.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 10:44 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2019 10:44 AM (bim/x)
Democrats hold one half of congress for one month and pass a 1500 page bill to help illegals not be illegal any more and prevent any type of border security from being put in place.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (LX21o)
Ryan and McConnell wouldnt give him the wall money when they were in charge for 2 years
They werent going to give it to him now either
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (KvRqW)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (YslsA)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (37IEG)
He's riffing now. Could be good stuff coming.
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (ptqGC)
And much of our loss in the midterms was engineered by the GOPe."
Oh, agreed. Paul Ryan himself signaled it 6 months in advance when he announced he was quitting, rather than fight for Trump, and us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (OLCnA)
If Trump can't win with that, then the cold civil war will need to go hot.
Posted by: Roy at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (ABjxW)
Posted by: kraken at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (90T4r)
Posted by: Juan Ceva at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (8gXue)
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In general, I suspect so. He would almost certainly pardon the Donald, though, and then the gloves come off.
Regardless of any of that, Senators - like all government types - love their petty suzerains. They will not gamble them on what would probably be the biggest back fire since the War Between the States.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (I2dne)
If Donald Trump right now declared martial law, dissolved Congress and outlawed the Democrat and GOP parties, I would not blanche.
Hell, I would cheer.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Cthulhu 2020 at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (dd1qZ)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: Cthulhu 2020 at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (dd1qZ)
This evil cleric of the Old Ones...he gets it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (O2RFr)
If Donald Trump right now declared martial law, dissolved Congress and outlawed the Democrat and GOP parties, I would not blanche.
Hell, I would cheer.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (zBaqJ)
I'd help.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (7ZQe3)
Hell, I would cheer.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
MOAB Congress.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (AM1GF)
I guess you missed the part where he just said he is going to sign an National Emergency.
And yes, it amuses me after everything Trump has done and gone through some of you still think he has no idea whats going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (/tuJf)
They werent going to give it to him now either
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (KvRqW)
I have dreamed a dream and now that dream is gone from me.
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (T71PA)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (6qErC)
Posted by: HA at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (MAstk)
They werent going to give it to him now either
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 10:45 AM (KvRqW)
I have dreamed a dream and now that dream is gone from me.
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (T71PA)
Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (0otOH)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (O2RFr)
_____
Hologram
Posted by: Phil Hartmark F/K/A Truck Monkey at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (flINI)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (iXnsK)
in 2018 the population was 327 million
in 1964 the birthrate was 3.2, in 2018 it was 1.9
if you average out the birthrate over those years we should have had about 200 million.
where did the other 127 million come from?
they have been imported from 3rd world hellholes for the purpose of disruption, division and destruction.
and that plan is working very well.
Posted by: shoey at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (lOf8d)
What force or guile could not subdue,
Thro' many warlike ages,
Is wrought now by a coward few,
For hireling traitor's wages.
The English steel we could disdain,
Secure in valour's station;
But English gold has been our bane -
Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (KvRqW)
Is he leading up to "no, I'm not signing it".
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (37IEG)
If a veto caused her to have a fatal seizure....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (ptqGC)
Imagine !JEB!...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (6qErC)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (JFO2v)
If Donald Trump right now declared martial law, dissolved Congress and outlawed the Democrat and GOP parties, I would not blanche.
Hell, I would cheer.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2019 10:46 AM (zBaqJ)
#metoo
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (BJlbN)
Posted by: Inogame at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (ySZHT)
He wouldn't have his hands tied and he could move money around.
Posted by: Ex-Virginian at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (yDxHh)
But meanwhile they pass 10,000 page unconstitutional monstrosities nobody wants that cost trillions.
Somehow this is the biggest scandal ever though. Fuck them all.
Posted by: ... at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (igQcG)
Ryan and McConnell wouldnt give him the wall money when they were in charge for 2 years
They werent going to give it to him now either
You are so wrong, the Wall is being built under their noses, this is all theater.
Trump is winning everything. Look who he has destroyed this month, Warren, VA for 2020 will vote red, more to come.
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (xv43o)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (7ZQe3)
I guess you missed the part where he just said he is going to sign an National Emergency.
And yes, it amuses me after everything Trump has done and gone through some of you still think he has no idea whats going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (/tuJf)
Jack, whether you're right or wrong, I'm glad you're here man.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (YslsA)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (U7k5w)
Hell, I would cheer. "
I don't trust the joint chiefs of staff to be on his side. They'd side with Schumer and Pelosi.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (Kpl3J)
No pictures, but confirmation from the court
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Inogame at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (ySZHT)
---
The SCOTUS Public Relations Office told some news agency that she was at work.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (LX21o)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (T71PA)
----------------
I had a dream my life would be
so different from this hell I'm living.
Posted by: WisRich at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (G0vdT)
Yao.
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (Bdeb0)
The "needs the permission of the city" provision might not actually be that restrictive - the American Spectator post that JJ linked to stated that it requires a "good faith effort" from the Feds to compromise with local authorities over a 6 month window. Doesn't say that local authorities can just veto a wall.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (oZ6kz)
Why do so many people who support Trump think he's a doddering idiot?
Posted by: Ree at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (N3yvc)
Posted by: Roy at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (ABjxW)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (LX21o)
What force or guile could not subdue,
Thro' many warlike ages,
Is wrought now by a coward few,
For hireling traitor's wages.
The English steel we could disdain,
Secure in valour's station;
But English gold has been our bane -
Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 10:48 AM (KvRqW)
From the great David Byrne,
"Same as it ever was"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (7ZQe3)
Then I remember "and" is an option.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (OLCnA)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (U7k5w)
They've internalized MSM spin.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (iXnsK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (BqXKV)
Camo.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (AM1GF)
Forget both: sports coats or hoodies
Blend in, don't stand out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Ree at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (N3yvc)
It's not so much Trump, as it's we've been down this road many, many times before.
Failure Theater never changes.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 15, 2019 10:49 AM (YslsA)
Line item veto was struck down by SCOTUS in the late '90s. Would have been great, but it won't work.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (0O7c5)
and the "left" includes the establishment gop
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (LX21o)
Blend in, don't stand out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
In the cities, that IS camo.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (AM1GF)
He's going to build the wall.
Posted by: HA at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (MAstk)
Zod finds himself living in a (checks behind door) shotgun shack.
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (BqXKV)
KY sends Mitch, but its all the other Senators that put him into leadership.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (iXnsK)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: dIb at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (VJOLZ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 10:51 AM (aKsyK)
On pizza with sausage?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (AM1GF)
No pictures, but confirmation from the court
hmm. rbg mysteriously at work in the week after jenny nicholson (i think that's her name; can't get there from work to check) posted a video on her youtube channel discussing the mysterious disappearance of an animatronic from a long-disused attraction at epcot.
coincidence?
Posted by: Anachronda, just asking questions at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:53 AM (iXnsK)
This
Posted by: DR.WTF at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (T71PA)
Zod finds himself living in a (checks behind door) shotgun shack.
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (Bdeb0)
Ah, life in wartime...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (bcbK8)
This means, of course, that no walls may be built.
----
NOT TRUE. The bill specifically lists 5 localities and ONLY applies to the funds in this particular pool of $1.375 in the Bill.
Posted by: Justice for Jussie! at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (ptqGC)
It has to be the courts. Or, you know, the other thing...
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: kraken at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (90T4r)
True enough, but I'd take my chances with someone else if KY would bounce that prick.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (BqXKV)
The dream is still in my head
I heave a sigh and sadly smile
And lie a while in bed
I wish that it might come to pass
Not fade like all my dreams
Just think of what my life might be
In a world like I have seen
I don't think I can carry on
Carry on this cold and empty life
Oh no, my spirits are low in the depths of despair
My lifeblood spills over
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (OLCnA)
Forget both: sports coats or hoodies
Blend in, don't stand out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
Have a long mustache
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic
"And".
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Justice for Jussie! at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (Xqo6t)
Further more, those requirements expire September 30th.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 15, 2019 10:55 AM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 15, 2019 10:55 AM (hjaPQ)
True enough, but I'd take my chances with someone else if KY would bounce that prick.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (BqXKV)
What's this about KY on the prick?
It's a little cold but fun.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:55 AM (bcbK8)
I have hope for the emergency powers, but I have no idea how it will all play out.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 15, 2019 10:55 AM (wGbBR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:55 AM (ptqGC)
Forget both: sports coats or hoodies
Blend in, don't stand out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
Have a long mustache
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (aKsyK)
That chair? Put that against the wall.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:55 AM (bcbK8)
well, at least the ones that want to go from bakersfield to merced...
Posted by: Anachronda at February 15, 2019 10:55 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Hawaiian judge at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (O2RFr)
I have to go all NRO, but maybe it's time we sit the next one out. Not for POTUS, but for House and Senate. Some of these bastards need to be removed to keep the rest in line.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (BqXKV)
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (KvRqW)
Oh stop. You're actually being rational, reading the bill and not subscribing to click bait, garment rending, hyperbole, ignorance and what is actually possible. How dare you be so measured.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (rtTs+)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (AM1GF)
There she was this morning, in conference, like she never left!
She was so overcome with emotion to be back among her fellow justices that she couldn't even speak!
She was sitting in her wheelchair with her head was down as if she were asleep, with drool collecting into a container suspended from her neck.
I know her so well that I was able to speak for her as each case came up for discussion.
I just leaned over close to her as if she were talking to me, and then I said out loud what I knew she must have been thinking.
The emotion of the day affected not just Justice Ginsburg, but I think all of us.
And of course all the reporters covering us agreed that the occasion was too special to be captured in photographs or video.
Sometimes it's best to have those memories only in your mind.
Posted by: Justice Kagan at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (DuAZ5)
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM
hey wait, this IS your beautiful wife!
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (Kpl3J)
Or the various other tyranny that needs ending.
I'm now fully in the 'we aren't voting out way out of this mess' camp.
Time to seriously talk to my family about moving from this shithole state to one more sane, not that it'll matter in the long run.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (yTfbH)
Keep in mind, that ALSO expires with the next funding Bill. This is not NORMAL legislation... it only applies to the use of Funds in this PARTICULAR bill.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (Xqo6t)
We knew this already but he explained it so well
Posted by: Arti at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (0x9L2)
Posted by: BignJames at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (cxHbL)
"WTF! Is he going to sign the bill?!!!"
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (Bdeb0)
*Checks distance between Alexandria and Seattle*
Damn it. Have fun...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (bcbK8)
Not really a good threat as armed insurrection would be the next move on that chess board.
Posted by: Inogame at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (ySZHT)
Two years. We had two fucking years of a GOP President, a GOP Senate, a GOP House.
They didn't give us the wall, because they never wanted to give us the wall, and would in fact rather be voted out than give us the wall.
And now you have retards saying 'This is brilliant, Trump can run on the wall in 2020!'
No more. If he refuses to even fight here - if he caves, if he pretends, oops, he got tricked by them folks, it was those dastardly Democratic judges - then fuck him, and fuck the rest of them too.
Frankly, what hurt Trump most of all was having to pretend like half the GOP isn't loaded with traitorous cocksuckers.
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (DUynq)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (7ZQe3)
I'm not sure he knows how to end it..
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 10:58 AM (KvRqW)
Posted by: Serious Cat
And you believe that isn't now permanently in the template why, exactly?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:58 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (Kpl3J)
Hey wait, this IS my beautiful (fortified) house!
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 10:58 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: dananjcon at February 15, 2019 10:58 AM (xqfqx)
Oh stop. You're actually being rational, reading the bill and not subscribing to click bait, garment rending, hyperbole, ignorance and what is actually possible. How dare you be so measured.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (rtTs+)
Don't worry. It'll never catch on.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:58 AM (bcbK8)
You can thank Ryan, McConnell, and that POS McCain for that. May he rot in Hell.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 10:58 AM (BqXKV)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 10:33 AM (7ZQe3)
You all realize that there is no way Trump himself has read an 1100 page bill. Nor have most of Congress. They've been told what is and what isn't in the bill. This is the way legislatures work, most have no clue what is in a bill they are voting on, they simply decide yes or no based on what advisors, assistants, and lawyers tell them, along with lobbyists. So if Trump signs it, then it is because he has been advised to do so , not because he has read and understood the bill himself. Good heavens, he was with a head of state all day yesterday, he hasn't had time to read an encyclopedia of legal jargon.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (gpuEA)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (uGHnY)
Oh there you go again. Another rational person who read the bill and skipped the hyperbole. How dare you be so rational.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (rtTs+)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (a4/Ug)
Posted by: Bert G at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (OMsf+)
damn it Bert, what did you do?!??!?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (rtTs+)"
There's no way I've read this abomination but apparently other people have. And one reason I trust them is because they aren't being Pollyannas about it. No one is saying this Bill is a win - rather that it obviously presents a lot of challenges, many that will be inevitably fought in the courts. The Bill is trying to rein in Trump's emergency powers - but other laws have passed and failed to curb executive overreach.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (oZ6kz)
(I still suspect if Trump agrees, it is likely under duress from Mueller's Mob, or he has just surrendered to Jarvanka. Maybe signing is a condition of ending the open coup ... but the real coup continues .. DeepState wins, in any case)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (Cus5s)
Time to seriously talk to my family about moving from this shithole state to one more sane, not that it'll matter in the long run.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 10:56 AM (yTfbH)
It'll help when the battle lines are drawn.
Posted by: Someguy at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (BqByW)
Posted by: dIb at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (VJOLZ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 10:54 AM (ptqGC)
How so?
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (uGHnY)
Yeah, it brightened my day a bit.
So did the cocaine I put in my hot chocolate.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:00 AM (bcbK8)
Thank you.
Everyone is getting worked up over a 7 month bill.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 11:00 AM (/tuJf)
Show the country exactly what the Democrats gave them.
Posted by: Ex-Virginian at February 15, 2019 11:00 AM (yDxHh)
Posted by: Someguy at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (BqByW)
Good point, though I imagine battle lines will be more of a city vs everyone else thing, not a state vs state thing.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 11:00 AM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (bcbK
Put a red pin on Alexandria on your campaign map. When we're done for, you can remove it and strike us from the order of battle...
We'll hold out as long as the ammo and the gin allows...don't bother sending help.
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (Bdeb0)
Thank you.
Everyone is getting worked up over a 7 month bill.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 11:00 AM (/tuJf)
I'd completely forgotten that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: davidingeorgia at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (MFFrQ)
...
you don't understand, we're all going to die before Sept.
Posted by: HA at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (MAstk)
can't say for sure, but there was that margin busting incident yesterday....
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (Kpl3J)
I'm not sure he knows how to end it..
the ninja way: throw smoke ball and vanish.
Posted by: Anachronda at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (sGtp+)
Our cities here in PA are surrounded by rivers.
heh
Gotham kept showing the city stuck with the bridges blown. I thought that was a pretty sight.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (Rarvo)
well there's no such thing as a line item veto if you mean that seriously. You either sign a bill in whole or your reject it in whole. You can't pick and choose.
Posted by: ace at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (RQ0P7)
It's serfdom.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (BqXKV)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (a4/Ug)
...
you don't understand, we're all going to die before Sept.
I thought we had 12 years
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM (bcbK
Put a red pin on Alexandria on your campaign map. When we're done for, you can remove it and strike us from the order of battle...
We'll hold out as long as the ammo and the gin allows...don't bother sending help.
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (Bdeb0)
Stack 'em high while the music plays, man.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (lwiT4)
I think he should beg for clemency, but today doesn't seem like a good day. How about Monday when we get another update on Jussie's hoax, or maybe an article about Avenatti's firm being put in receivership?
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: happyfeet at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (mLfQi)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (FChgt)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 15, 2019 11:01 AM (RQ0P7)
If his house is anything like mine, he's iced in.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Stephen at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (VimJl)
They now have a Single Action (SA), a striker fired (SF) and now a Double Action (DA). Each is under $400.
I'm telling you, those Turks are crazy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (FChgt)
No, he is settling my anger, and I wanna break shit, dammit!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (BqXKV)
He's going to build the wall.
Posted by: HA at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (MAstk)
yes, just watch.
Posted by: shoey at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (lOf8d)
Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (1fJ/v)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 10:59 AM (rtTs+)
Thanks. The sections of Bill applying to Immigration and Border security is actually pretty brief. Only took me 15 minutes to skim through it when it was released. Quick reading when the text is only 5-7 words per line.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (Xqo6t)
I meant you read the specific provision cited. Not the Breitbart Hair on Fire ignorance.
The bill itself is of limited significance and in some cases dubious constitutionality. Things like a local mayor overriding Executive authority don't even pass the smell test. When you read the actual provision you know why. It's mostly because people are with pushing an agenda or ignorant.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (rtTs+)
I expect Texas will fund its own wall eventually if the State Republicans remain in power.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 11:02 AM (a4/Ug)
Primary Cornyn next time around.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (xfb67)
Posted by: Honduras at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (vg8iE)
many coyotes are living free in the USA, how many children came across
the border, how many MS-13 have been caught, etc.
=====
Summertime, and the livin' is easy . . .
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (KvRqW)
Posted by: happyfeet at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (mLfQi)
This bill has a half-gnawed morsel of food floating in a 55-gal drum of poison.
I don't know what's going on if he signs it.
This seems like the hill to die on - one way or the other.
Posted by: McInTx (formerly (T)expat - West Africa Time) at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (ESAuA)
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (oZ6kz)
communicates on twitter, maybe that's the best way to express
displeasure with this bill?
Posted by: Stephen at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (VimJl)
I emailed him twice. I'm not on Twitter and have no desire to be.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (ptqGC)
BIFF: Yeah, good punt, and Trump will get another set of downs, Pete.
PETE: So the team that scores the most points will win?
BIFF: Right Pete. Key insight.
PETE: [Rolls eyes]
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (FChgt)
I'm good. Confused as to if Trump signed or not.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (lwiT4)
And yes, it amuses me after everything Trump has done and gone through some of you still think he has no idea whats going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 10:47 AM (/tuJf
You said the same thing about Sessions. You also seemed to think McCabe would be indicted instead of going on book promo tours bragging about his treason. No offense but at some point you have to face reality. It's not as bad as some make it out to be but it's definitely not as positive as you try to portray.
I'm also hearing the same spin to defend Trump when he ended the shutdown. Shutdown Great he will never cave. Shutdown never was going to work. Trump did what he had to do,
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (a4/Ug)
Hell, I would cheer.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
We should have been pushing this line directly to him for months now. We should have been floating polls from the base letting him know that we would openly support this kind of action. And every day we don't come right out and say this directly to him the Left and the GOPe are going to work to sink this country. We need to strike now and strike hard while we have someone on "our side" who has the power to keep the Military sidelined at least if not working with us.
This needs to be stated openly so he and everyone else can see it.
Posted by: southdakota conservative at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (wg50I)
Keep in mind, that ALSO expires with the next funding Bill. This is not NORMAL legislation... it only applies to the use of Funds in this PARTICULAR bill.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 15, 2019 10:57 AM
Do you have any confidence things will be better aligned for Trump and us by the time the next CR bill comes up? Or more of the same as this current crap sandwich?
Posted by: Hands at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (786Ro)
The Margins were a great rock band.
They had alot of groupies..
Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (KvRqW)
Posted by: PJ at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (qlTN9)
Asking for educational purposes, of course."
post a long string of text with no spaces, or giant URL's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
A calm man is much more thorough. Be as the Spartans.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (lwiT4)
Same here. Keeping you in my daily prayers, dear.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (ptqGC)
i wish we could clone you picklehead
Posted by: happyfeet at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (mLfQi)
But yeah, what a dark day and Failure Theater is back, or something.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (rtTs+)
Posted by: TooCon at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (tV1Ba)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (lwiT4)
Asking for educational purposes, of course.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (xfb67)
First, some nuzzling. The slowly unzip...
Oh wait. The other kind. Welp, long unbroken strings of text causes the site to get borked on phones. So break up URLs or long strings of nonsense text.
Or use TinyURL or the like.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (BqXKV)
It'll be WAY better next time! You have my WORD on it!!!
Posted by: Joe Isuzu at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (Kpl3J)
Reconquista!
At the gringos' expense, of course!
"For English, press 9"
Posted by: Honduras
It will become "for English, go to England."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: kraken at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (90T4r)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (lwiT4)
It makes a terrible Bourbon back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Kurt at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM
You misspelled "Obama", troll. Because that's what the Lightbringer did.
Posted by: Hands at February 15, 2019 11:07 AM (786Ro)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:07 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (lwiT4)
Barbecue starter fluid. Bigger can, stays in your hair longer.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 15, 2019 11:07 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (lwiT4)
Same here. Keeping you in my daily prayers, dear.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:05 AM (ptqGC)
+1
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:07 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: SH at February 15, 2019 11:07 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (AM1GF)
All hail Emperor Trump
Posted by: Kurt at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (zlHlf0
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This is today's dumbest internet comment. Nothing can possibly top it.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:07 AM (lwiT4)
I want to hear him say the words. "I'm not signing that piece of crap bill."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (37IEG)
This. A thousand times this.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (QLvwG)
Yeah Yeah - things will burn with Democrats in charge. It'll be so awful. The Republic will fall. I don't really give a fuck. Let. It. Burn.
Posted by: Juan Ceva at February 15, 2019 10:40 AM (8gXue)
Welp, new fucking guy moby you've been spouting this shit all morning.
Here's a bag of dicks.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (Z4rgH)
he got us this far and he'll see us safe to the far shore by gum
he's a superstar yeah that's what he are you know it
Posted by: happyfeet at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (mLfQi)
Posted by: Gref at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (AMIL/)
Didn't Arizona try this a few years ago and the Supreme Court shot it down?
--Poop
Posted by: I.M. Nincompoop at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (zn7R9)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (34w2E)
I turn 42 on Sunday and I look at my kids and have realized that I saw the height of American greatness (in my mind, anyway)- the 1980s, and its all downhill from here.
Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (RQ0P7)
That might get their attention.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (xfb67)
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:09 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (AM1GF)
And refrain in the interim from engaging in oral foreplay with the missus! Pro Safety Tip.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 15, 2019 11:09 AM (QLvwG)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (hjaPQ)
*thinks*
Nancy Pelosi is hot.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 11:09 AM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 15, 2019 11:09 AM (H8QX8)
Thank you.
Everyone is getting worked up over a 7 month bill.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 11:00 AM
You mean like we got worked up over LAST year's 7 month bill that expired September 30, 2018?
Whole lot of Charlie Browns out there, believing that THIS time Lucy will hold the football in place.
Posted by: Hands at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (786Ro)
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Neither is setting up a bunch of new cans.
Posted by: SH at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (sX1BW)
The lead up to November 2016 was awful, not 9/11 awful, but bad. And then PDT won.
Right now we could have been sitting with Hillary as President and the House controlled by the dems.
Are things perfect, no, however they are not a disaster. We are still winning more then we are losing.
Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (N3JsI)
Also, IIRTH, if the President declares an emergency he gets to spend the money and tell Congress what he spent. So the bill may restrict his ability to move money around but the Emergencies Act doesn't make him move money around.
"When the President declares a national emergency or Congress Expenditures, declares war, the President shall transmit to Congress, within ninety reports to days after the end of each six-month period after such declaration, a Congress. report on the total expenditures incurred by the United States Govern-ment during such six-month period which are directly attributable to the exercise of powers and authorities conferred by such declaration."
Posted by: SkylerKat at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (SXIn9)
Ryan, McCain and Flake screwed us.
We have to keep fighting and keep praying.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (hECVl)
Oh dear. Trump has apparently not signed the bill and we're still going to the camps?
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (hjaPQ)
*thinks*
Nancy Pelosi is hot.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 11:09 AM (yTfbH)
RBG working a stripper pole in pasties and a thong.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Revenant at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (NUNXH)
....
yup.
Always heavy on the concern and the I'm not voting for so and so.....
Everyone here who voted for Trump in 16 will do so again in 20.
Posted by: HA at February 15, 2019 11:11 AM (MAstk)
you mean that seriously. You either sign a bill in whole or your reject
it in whole. You can't pick and choose.Posted by: ace
I just meant he can make the point of exactly why he is vetoing ... by pointing out those absurd "line items".
Posted by: illiniwek at February 15, 2019 11:11 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 11:11 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Nina "Fucking Liar" Totenberg at February 15, 2019 11:11 AM (vg8iE)
"See Sun-In-His-Hair. His council has left him, and the People see he is wounded."
Little Big Drunk snarled like a dog. "He lives in the lodge that was to be mine!"
"When we lived in the White Lodge, we brought in many rag-people," said Soot. Scowl nodded. Even she was smiling cautiously.
"I will take the Lodge back," said Eats-Her-Soul, who was an old woman from Massa-chu-setts and talked too much. "Then we will bring in the rag-people and rule them."
"Caution," said Bit-A-Lip, Drunk's husband. "He is wounded, but he will not quit. He is still dangerous."
They all laughed at him, but Bit knew he was right. He had come back. He knew. He watched Sun, and saw a chieftain confused, but not broken.
"Watch," said Bit. "Wait. Be careful."
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:11 AM (Bdeb0)
Thank you.
Everyone is getting worked up over a 7 month bill.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 11:00 AM
You mean like we got worked up over LAST year's 7 month bill that expired September 30, 2018?
Whole lot of Charlie Browns out there, believing that THIS time Lucy will hold the football in place.
Posted by: Hands at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (786Ro)
Steiner will come.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:11 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (hjaPQ)
*thinks*
Nancy Pelosi is hot.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 11:09 AM (yTfbH)
RBG working a stripper pole in pasties and a thong.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
Those aren't dumb. They are, however, horrifying.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 11:11 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:11 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (lwiT4)
Thanks for expressing some bitterness, Ace. That's the kind of moment this truly is.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (13CQC)
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Doubt it would happen, but it would be interesting.
And heck yes, the State of Texas can ride roughshod over its state municipalities.
Posted by: SH at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (FChgt)
Scott Adams/Brandon Darby at Breitbart points out that the part about granting local border towns the say as to whether or not the wall is built there = literally turning over the decision to the cartels
Border town officials are already being bought by cartels. Not speculation, they've been caught and prosecuted for it. It's already a problem. You don't then say "Hey, let's let these corrupt, cartel-owned guys decide on the wall!"
Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (W+vEI)
Three weeks ago I told people upset with the cave "It's just three weeks, wait to see what he does in three weeks."
Are we now supposed to just wait seven months and judge him by what he does in seven months?
We can just wait for him to actually deliver forever, can't we? During that time, Democrats win, and illegals keep coming in.
Posted by: ace at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (hjaPQ)
Didn't Arizona try this a few years ago and the Supreme Court shot it down?
--Poop
Posted by: I.M. Nincompoop at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (zn7R9)
I think that shot down Arizon's attempt to use their own law enforcement to enforce immigration laws. I'm unsure whether that included any state funded constructed barriers at the border.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (a4/Ug)
Tell her to go fuck herself.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 15, 2019 11:13 AM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 15, 2019 11:13 AM (OLCnA)
Right you are.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (lwiT4)
Nah, I was thinking of voting for Beto. He's all about love instead of walls.
/sarc just in case
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:13 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (rtTs+)
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I'm not lighting my hair on fire about this. But, we have to face facts. Under normal circumstances, this would probably work.
But, in this case, Congress ("both" Parties) is already set on undermining the execution of an NE declaration, and will continue to fight the President as hard as they can. The Courts will accommodate them at every turn, likely all the way to SCOTUS.
So, I'm hopeful that Trump and his people have gamed this out, and can ram it through the opposition, but I'm super-pessimistic about it. When the entire government is standing shoulder-to-shoulder to defend their precious Deep State and its dusky serfs from bad orangeman, he has a big hill to climb.
As I said at the time, the answer was to keep the government shut down until the Democrats caved in. They would have, eventually. It was just a failure of nerve.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2019 11:13 AM (AzW6q)
when was the last time a successful lawsuit stopped one of those?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 11:13 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 15, 2019 11:13 AM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:13 AM (ptqGC)
But yeah, let's form the circular firing squad and talk about nonsense.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (rtTs+)
They seem to be jumping right on the wall construction piece regardless of whether it's limited or whatever - talking about local lawsuits to stop any progress.
I basically go by - are they crowing and happy? then that's probably bad. are they whining and pulling their hair out? probably that's a good thing.
Now, the President might be in for a learning experience here, but at least we do know this is opening the question, finally, and I do still think that ANY start on this is a good start.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (Rarvo)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (7ZQe3)
The bill itself is of limited significance and in some cases dubious constitutionality. Things like a local mayor overriding Executive authority don't even pass the smell test. When you read the actual provision you know why. It's mostly because people are with pushing an agenda or ignorant.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 11:03 AM (rtTs+)
Not even that as the language says NOTHING about a mayor "Vetoing" a project. It only says that DHS is required to meet up to 6 months to meet with local officials to come to an agreement on design and placement. But after September 30th that requirement goes away,
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (7ZQe3)
Drain the f#@%ing swamp!!!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (W+vEI)
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (0OmEj)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM (FChgt)
She's back? There's been a confirmed, proof-of-life sighting?
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (QLvwG)
Posted by: Ripley at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (MxEKc)
Camo.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 10:50 AM (AM1GF)
Forget both: sports coats or hoodies
Blend in, don't stand out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 10:52 AM (bcbK
Gray man. Learn it, live it.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (0otOH)
I turn 42 on Sunday and I look at my kids and have realized that I saw the height of American greatness (in my mind, anyway)- the 1980s, and its all downhill from here.
Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 15, 2019 11:08 AM (RQ0P7)
It's a bad, bad idea to take Twitter as indicative of the nation as a whole. Twitter is a propaganda force multiplier that makes a few look like many. I think most people with two brains cells to rub together can see that Jussie was making this shit up.
Now what the Chicago cops do is up to them, but considering the fact that the resources used to check this guy's story could have been better used closing some actual homicide cases maybe they will decide to make an example of Mr. Smollet.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (bcbK
By now she probably could be the pole.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (9Om/r)
charge the hoaxer or will write it off to leads exhausted and we just
don't know "because he was off of video surveillance for 60 seconds and
SO MUCH CAN HAPPEN in that time frame).
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Frankly, I think PD is waiting until after the mayoral election.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (OLCnA)
Posted by: SH at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Rose at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (Ot5t8)
Posted by: Browncoat formerly known as Mike at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (o38N1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:10 AM (bcbK
By now she probably could be the pole.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (9Om/r)
Not a load-bearing pole.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:15 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (ptqGC)
>>Are we now supposed to just wait seven months and judge him by what he does in seven months?
>>We can just wait for him to actually deliver forever, can't we? During that time, Democrats win, and illegals keep coming in.
He just said he is going to do a National Emergency and take the money that way. What more do you want him to do, shut down the government for another month and get the same deal from a Democrat House and a 53 majority in the Senate? They are not going to give him the money. Not going to happen.
Politics is the art of the possible. Wishing and screaming never get anything done. Why does anyone care where the money comes from if the job gets done?
I want the wall built. I don't care if he shits the money. Get the money. Build the damn wall.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (/tuJf)
The Horde has been unclear.
Posted by: Vance at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (zzW7w)
Posted by: Ripley at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (MxEKc)
Posted by: dIb at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (VJOLZ)
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With enhanced goodies and protections. Here to stay.
****
Well, at least Trump will get credited for being non racist and for addressing the problem
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (idlY2)
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Yes. That would be awesome.
Posted by: SH at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 11:06 AM (aKsyK)
+++++++++++
Except there, they'll be speaking Arabic and Urdu.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (I2dne)
THIS
Trump needs to pounce on that. Frankly I am shocked San Fran Nan can still string a sentence or two together. Clearly early onset dementia/Alzheimer's based on her ramblings
Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (RQ0P7)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (FChgt)
Former Massachusetts GOP Gov. Bill Weld has launched a committee to explore a 2020 Republican primary challenge against President Trump.
Weld confirmed the move during an address Friday at "Politics and Eggs," a must stop in the first-in-the-nation primary state of New Hampshire for any White House hopeful.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (8iiMU)
But yeah, let's form the circular firing squad and talk about nonsense.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 11:14 AM (rtTs+)
This.
That's the sporty line for a lot of folks. How many? If folks sit out 2020, we may find out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (ptqGC)
If on November 3rd, 2020 there are construction cranes in place and some portion of the wall is being built, Trump wins. If not, no matter how much he might say he tried his best and got backstabbed by his own party and he'll do more in his next 4 years, he'll lose.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (7ZQe3)
THIS. Cannot be stated enough.
The "twitterverse" is a such a small self-selected group. It was an attempt - I guess successful - to control online discourse rather than allow open commenting on blogs (which us staid folks still do, yay Pixy).
Get everyone on SM, then control them. If real people leave the platform, who cares.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (Rarvo)
The Horde has been unclear.
He's only mentioned signing the national emergency, not the bill
Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (AM1GF)
Nobody represents the American citizen, nor the worker anymore.
Our country was founded on a cry of "No taxation without representation!"
Alleged representatives that piss on us and tell us it's raining are even worse than none at all.
For a bunch of alleged political and policy elites, who act like they deserve to rule, they just don't seem to realize the extent that they're playing with fire.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (J+mig)
"Mr. President, what enchants you most about being in the Oval Office?"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (ptqGC)
Never happen. For whatever reason, and I believe it's irrational, Republicans always get blamed for a shutdown. Subject for another day. In this case the president also got hammered for the shutdown. Again not rational but fact. There is zero reason to believe another shutdown would not yield the same result. Not only that, it's a diversion from the presidents accomplishments. We end up talking about nothing else. Now, we get to move on and the president is getting the wall built. That's what people wanted, one more accomplishment to talk about. Now we move on. It's that simple.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (rtTs+)
He probably hates it too so he's not saying anything about it.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (yTfbH)
Alternatively, a Yukio Mishima speech, with the requisite ending.
You'd start hearing gunfire within five minutes...
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (Bdeb0)
Say what? How Gov. Abbott wishes that were true, he's still fighting Austin about that sanctuary city crap. City governments have to obey state law, but other then that, they're not a part of the state government.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (hjaPQ)
If you thought Jeb was low energy, wait 'till you see Weld!
Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (QLvwG)
He could have pulled Kavanaugh but he didn't.
He's up against an unbelievable amount of obstacles and obstructionists.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (hECVl)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11
Hollywood prop
Posted by: Arti at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (0x9L2)
I mean, that's my theory. I wish it had gone on longer, but at some point the game of Chicken gets too risky IMI.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (wpMD8)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (W+vEI)
In my fantasy, he signals an aide to wheel out a Weber grill, puts the bill on the grate, and lights it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (xfb67)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (FChgt)
"Prank-calling Hillary, great question, thanks. Next."
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (Bdeb0)
If he was negotiating that away for other reasons, that was a mistake.
yes, this in "only" 9 months", but is it going to get better in 9 months? It will be heading to full campaign season .... but this (from Spectator article) essentially codifies a lot of points that will hamper Trump even more, give radical judges more power. MAYBE it finds its way to SCOTUS ... in 2021?
Posted by: illiniwek at February 15, 2019 11:20 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 15, 2019 11:20 AM (GEhPL)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2019 11:16 AM (/tuJf)
...
There is a proposal in Texas to take from our rainy day fund and build it ourselves.
Dan Patrick has come out against this because principles.
If the Feds make it impossible to build a Federal wall without local mayoral support, i wonder what will happen if state tries to build it's own wall.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 15, 2019 11:20 AM (yL25O)
If on November 3rd, 2020 there are construction cranes in place and some portion of the wall is being built, Trump wins. If not, no matter how much he might say he tried his best and got backstabbed by his own party and he'll do more in his next 4 years, he'll lose.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:17 AM (oZ6kz)
Yup.
I would LOVE a yuge, luxurious wall. The best wall ever, I'd love it.
But if it's just steel slats along the border, I'll learn to cope.
But the open door policy has to end. Has to. We're letting wolves in.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:20 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 11:20 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: BluesFish at February 15, 2019 11:20 AM (312tC)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (AURKQ)
-joncelli
And this, my friends, is why I come to the Horde everyday. To get recharged and centered and to have rational men and women talk me back from the ledge. Great point amigo.
Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (RQ0P7)
Posted by: Browncoat formerly known as Mike at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (o38N1)
That makes sense. No point getting my hopes up.
Just sign it then President Trump and get ready to bend over to the Dems.
Posted by: dIb at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (VJOLZ)
Posted by: Draki at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (TpAxy)
Alternatively, a Yukio Mishima speech, with the requisite ending.
You'd start hearing gunfire within five minutes...
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (Bdeb0)
Uhhhh, didn't Mishima's girlfriend hack off his wang at the end there?
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (RD7QR)
In my fantasy, he signals an aide to wheel out a Weber grill, puts the bill on the grate, and lights it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (ptqGC)
Do you have a newsletter?
I'm liking your fantasies.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (8iiMU)
Posted by: TexasDan
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I can answer that.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (KoKdw)
Instead he got a worse deal.
It happens.
You get up and go get them next time.
It's called adulting. It's why you are in the basement repairing leaking copper pipes instead of what you really want to do, which is ball up in the corner and cry because your firstborn son hates you and has dedicated himself to ruining his life just so he can show you Dad!
Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (36hgo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Arti at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (0x9L2)
Three weeks ago I told people upset with the cave "It's just three weeks, wait to see what he does in three weeks."
Are we now supposed to just wait seven months and judge him by what he does in seven months?
We can just wait for him to actually deliver forever, can't we? During that time, Democrats win, and illegals keep coming in.
Posted by: ace at February 15, 2019 11:12 AM
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What's the alternative? The democrats control the $$$$ and that can't be changed until 2020. All Trump can do is veto every bill that comes across his desk and he will be blamed 24/7/365 until November 2020.
The alternative is someone worse than hillary. Heck she was just in it for the money. People like AOC and biden are in it for the idealogly, and that is way more dangerous.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 15, 2019 11:20 AM (Cus5s)
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In view of Trump making this his keystone campaign issue, and his complete failure to press for funding until after the midterm...it's hard to see Trump as not wanting this to fail all along as well.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (yL25O)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (xfb67)
Let 'em know
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (bcbK8)
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Yes they are. The state can dictate to the cities all they want. All municipal power derives from the state.
Posted by: SH at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (wpMD8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (ptqGC)
Out: Veto
In: Q-to
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (AURKQ)
"This is most important election of all time, folks! If we lose this one, it's over. It's over! They're coming for our jobs, our guns, our churches, our everything! They'll destroy our lives!"
'So what do we do if we lose the vote?'
"We regroup and try to vote in the next election and do better!"
Yeah yeah yeah. We have to eat our shit sandwiches and like it and always vote the right way, eat more shit sandwiches, because the alternative is we're doomed. But never so doomed that we should refuse the shit sandwich or not think about the next election. Never so doomed that it would be a bad idea to donate money to the GOP's latest fundraiser. And CERTAINLY never so doomed as to warrant some civil disobedience.
After all, you know how it is. The Democrats riot and do all this kind of shit when things don't go their way. The GOP is better than that(tm)! We just got right back to our jobs and pay our taxes and are good and loyal and vote for the RINOs, no matter how badly we're fucked.
It's amazing how with that strategy, the left always advances, and the conservatives conserve nothing, isn't it?
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (DUynq)
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (zmIJL)
Posted by: TexasDan
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I can answer that.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (KoKdw)
So can Arizona.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (bcbK8)
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Yeah, I'm not sure another shutdown at this point would be the right way to go. I just mean that keeping the last one going was the right way to do it. The Dems would have eventually caved in. They'd have had to, and yes - it would have gotten ugly, but the LIVs would likely have long forgotten by next year. Even if they somehow stayed focused on the budget kerfuffle for another year and a half (they wouldn't), and it spiked his chance for re-election, at least he'd have made good on his promise to build the wall.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: TexasDan
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I can answer that.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (KoKdw)
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States have gotten a little pushy lately with Federal intervention though. There are several with laws saying they would arrest Federal officials attempting to enforce laws violating the second amendment, etc.
I think it might come down to how many battalions the Hawaiian judge can mobilize in Texas.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 15, 2019 11:23 AM (yL25O)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (RD7QR)"
If we're talking about the same Mishima, he was gay, and he committed seppuku when he saw his coup attempt wasn't exactly catching on with the general populace.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:23 AM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:23 AM (FChgt)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:22 AM (ptqGC)
That was great. "They gave it to obama and he didn't even know what he got it for" lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (9Om/r)
Damn, this is depressing.
I almost can't believe it's happening.
Please, President Trump, don't sign this bill. Please.
Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (Z2PYk)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Arti at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM
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Same here. The Country is fare better off with Trump than without him.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (kG5hP)
Alternatively, a Yukio Mishima speech, with the requisite ending.
You'd start hearing gunfire within five minutes...
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:18 AM (Bdeb0)
Uhhhh, didn't Mishima's girlfriend hack off his wang at the end there?
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (RD7QR)
He committed Seppuku, because Japan.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (37IEG)
Posted by: Revenant at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (NUNXH)
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 11:24 AM (DUynq)
Posted by: TexasDan at February 15, 2019 11:23 AM (yL25O)
One riot, one Texas Ranger. I think that's how the formula goes.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (QLvwG)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (xfb67)
Let 'em know
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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This. It is critical that the SOB's be directly informed.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (U2TY5)
It's only halted by a few rational people which actually reviewed some of the co tent by themselves.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (1XGOd)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2019 11:19 AM (ptqGC)
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I'm more of a drop trou and piss on it, but then again I'm known for my lack of housebreaking.
Posted by: BluesFish at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (312tC)
Posted by: DaveA at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (FhXTo)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 15, 2019 11:21 AM (RD7QR)"
If we're talking about the same Mishima, he was gay, and he committed seppuku when he saw his coup attempt wasn't exactly catching on with the general populace.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:23 AM (oZ6kz)
Which reminds me, "In the Realm of the Senses" was great until it wasn't.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Horseface at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (H6s51)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (U7k5w)
One riot, one Texas Ranger. I think that's how the formula goes.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (QLvwG)
One judge only needs one rope.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 15, 2019 11:26 AM (37IEG)
One riot, one Texas Ranger. I think that's how the formula goes.
Posted by: Count de Monet
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We're back to 'Big Iron', aren't we?
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at February 15, 2019 11:26 AM (U2TY5)
Fat's Dandy (6-1)
Quim Acosta (scratch)
Coulter Elbows (3-1)
Ingrahammar (2-5)
Mantis Pelosi (7-1)
Booth's Vader Ginsu (50-1)
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:26 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: TexasDan at February 15, 2019 11:23 AM (yL25O)
One riot, one Texas Ranger. I think that's how the formula goes.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (QLvwG)
There's a reason for that. I've seen what Rangers keep in their trunks.
So much envy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:26 AM (bcbK8)
I'm done. I may as well start voting Democrat from here on out as they'll be the only party left long before I'm likely to slip this mortal sphere (when I'll certainly be voting Democrat with uncanny regularity).
In a way this is a relief. I'll now have plenty more time to focus on other things.
Posted by: DocJ at February 15, 2019 11:26 AM (NYS7S)
Posted by: kraken at February 15, 2019 11:27 AM (90T4r)
Yeah, not much great there.
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:27 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 11:27 AM (U7k5w)
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No. I'm not abandoning Trump, he's still got my vote.
That's not really the point, though. The point is, this is a clusterfuck of his own making, and I have serious doubts about this solution to it.
Now, Trump's surprised me before, and I hope he will again. But this is NOT a "win." Not yet, not by a long shot, and until we see results, I've gotta tentatively put this in the "L" column.
I don't see that as "abandoning Trump."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2019 11:27 AM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Surfperch at February 15, 2019 11:27 AM (QSdIk)
Posted by: shoey at February 15, 2019 11:27 AM (lOf8d)
Posted by: BluesFish at February 15, 2019 11:25 AM (312tC)
Nice 'Major League' reference!
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 15, 2019 11:27 AM (QLvwG)
So much envy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:26 AM (bcbK
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Yup. 300g of Stanizolol, 200g of Decadurabolin and a bottle full of estrogen blockers.
Posted by: Jose Canseco and Juan Gonzalez at February 15, 2019 11:28 AM (oZ6kz)
All hail Emperor Trump
Posted by: Kurt at February 15, 2019 11:04 AM (zlHlf0
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This is today's dumbest internet comment. Nothing can possibly top it.
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You don't know our regulars very well, do you?
Posted by: exdem13 at February 15, 2019 11:28 AM (W+kMI)
Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 11:23 AM (FChgt)
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I will too.
I voted for Trump because of SCOTUS/conservative judges & also the Dems are pure evil.
He is fighting
Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 11:28 AM (hECVl)
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 15, 2019 11:28 AM (0OmEj)
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 15, 2019 11:28 AM (0OmEj)
Take care, man
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:28 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (9Om/r)
Posted by: exdem13 at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (W+kMI)
Basically everyday he needs to ride McConnel's and congresses ass on this. Every. Day.
Posted by: dIb at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (VJOLZ)
Posted by: Joe Dirt at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (dd1qZ)
So much envy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:26 AM (bcbK"
Yup. 300g of Stanizolol, 200g of Decadurabolin and a bottle full of estrogen blockers.
Posted by: Jose Canseco and Juan Gonzalez at February 15, 2019 11:28 AM (oZ6kz)
LOL
Goofballs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Joe Dirt at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (dd1qZ)
Sorry, I'll change pants
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (oZ6kz)
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I guess that's right, Yankee.
Posted by: Browncoat formerly known as Mike at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (o38N1)
Ha! Name one time in the last century when the State of Texas was able to directly order a Municipality to do something, and they did it without a Court Order forcing them to.
State agencies of course can set water and health standards, and they have authority over roadways, and other bureaucratic contingencies that are regulated by the various agencies.
But on matters of public policy? You may not realize it, but the Texas Governor's position is an extraordinarily weak one, designed that way intentionally. He basically has the power to sign what the Lege sends him and that's about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2019 11:30 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 15, 2019 11:31 AM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 15, 2019 11:29 AM (oZ6kz)
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^This. And I'm not very optimistic the answer is "much." We'll see though, we are in the Crazy Years, and anything's possible.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2019 11:31 AM (AzW6q)
Posted by: kraken at February 15, 2019 11:27 AM (90T4r)
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This^^^^
Look at the new crop of Socialists that have a possibility of running our country.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 11:31 AM (hECVl)
Off to battle the hordes at Kroger.
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Well, that will get her exercise requirement met. New Kroger at Beckett Ridge near us is big enough I feel like renting a segway for shopping.
Posted by: exdem13 at February 15, 2019 11:31 AM (W+kMI)
Posted by: Joe Dirt
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It's the improperly tanned tiger skin in the art thread.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 15, 2019 11:31 AM (2qPhT)
Show the country exactly what the Democrats gave them.
Posted by: Ex-Virginian
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OANN pops up the staggering numbers every 30mins or so. Eye opening indeed.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 15, 2019 11:32 AM (+ldAm)
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I'll vote for him again in 2020 in the primary and general. But we're done with this nightmare. Picture another 2-3 million illegals voting next November. It will be a bloodbath and even if PDJT wins by some miracle it will be a Dem sweep down-ballot.
And that's with only another 2-3 million illegals voting.
The country was not meant to recover from Obama - PDJT is going to turn out to be the speed-bump to hell many of us feared him to be. I don't blame him; there's only so much one guy can do.
Doesn't mean I've abandoned him. Doesn't mean I have to blind myself to the reality of our situation, either.
Posted by: DocJ at February 15, 2019 11:33 AM (NYS7S)
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We should all claim them. We're the village raising them after all
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 15, 2019 11:33 AM (idlY2)
AP: In an unprecedented show of Federal law-enforcement authority, the entire audience at a recent Richmond Raceway NASCAR event was arrested and sent to sodomy-camp on the orders of FBI chief Christopher Wray on charges of disloyalty to the Deep State...developing
Posted by: Zod at February 15, 2019 11:34 AM (Bdeb0)
sure, but it is at the fringe where the election is decided ... if the working class feels dumped on, does he lose the rust belt?
sure, "we" know he is up against DeepState criminals and globalists. The big question is whether this bill will establish legislation which could block Trump's wall building current authorities (as Ace mentioned at the outset). Why would even a few mayors get to block national interest? What precedent does that set for the other liberal border towns, or rural patches that are drug cartel friendly? etc.
National defense is on the line ... a bill helping the invaders is cray cray. Bully pulpit for the win.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 15, 2019 11:34 AM (Cus5s)
In fact, for the last two, I can almost guarantee that they *have* said that back when those two assholes ran.
Trump was supposed to be different. He was supposed to fight. And until now, he's been fighting. With some missteps, but he's been fighting.
But now? Now it's him giving up. Giving up, and also saying, "I want more people than ever to immigrate to the US! Just legally!"?
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 11:35 AM (DUynq)
yes, I agree, of course I'll vote for Trump in 2020, but I will not call this crap a win, it isn't a win and anyone who calls it a win is an idiot.
Posted by: shoey at February 15, 2019 11:35 AM (lOf8d)
There's more coming.
Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2019 11:38 AM (Fs5vw)
Would you be that guy in Mad Max playing the guitar on that souped up semi?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 15, 2019 11:39 AM (a4/Ug)
Barring some changes or successes, why would I bother? It's not like voting is the only way to make a change in this world. And if it becomes clear that Trump is little different from Jeb! when it matters, I'll explore my other options.
Why should I pretend Trump is great and can be trusted if he in fact can't be?
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 11:42 AM (DUynq)
The Trump trend is UP!
You all get the vapors on squiggly noise.
Come on man.
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 11:44 AM (xv43o)
Posted by: creeper at February 15, 2019 11:44 AM (9xi3m)
I'm not picking up after people any more. If you're too lazy to break your links into pieces or use tinyurl or put the link in your nickname, and expect us to clean up after you, then we don't want you posting here. I'm sorry, but I have better things to do, and so do the cobloggers, than chasing around people's thoughtless posts to fix them.
Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.
How much for the indygogo that rolls this fucker into beta?
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at February 15, 2019 11:44 AM (77G+m)
A. President Trump, (about 200 and wounded 300 in Syria)
You know why you don't hear about it? Trump is purposely not bragging to let Putin save face.
There are so many things going on and all you guys cry about are what the media, the same media that you know is fake! tells you to cry about.
Come on man.
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 11:47 AM (xv43o)
Posted by: Wethal at February 15, 2019 11:47 AM (3RspO)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 11:48 AM (fYfkW)
Posted by: Evelyn at February 15, 2019 11:48 AM (6R834)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 11:48 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 11:49 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 11:49 AM (xv43o)
Great the Uniparty wins again you dolt.
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 11:51 AM (xv43o)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 11:52 AM (fYfkW)
I've never sat out a presidential election due to irritation over the
nominee, but I will not vote at all if Trump jumps on the illegal
bandwagon by signing this. I will not play Charlie Brown's football and
hope Lucy Pelosi will be honest next time. Illegals streaming over the
border, Planned Parenthood still funded. Hillary and Comey
unindicted....this shit does not get my vote.
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 11:48 AM (U7k5w)
While I think Trump should veto and see if their "veto proof majority" stands up to a second vote, this bill is NOT on Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 15, 2019 11:53 AM (AmZyC)
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at February 15, 2019 11:53 AM (67XdO)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 11:54 AM (fYfkW)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 11:52 AM (fYfkW)
Your Democratic Party wont exist shortly.
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 11:56 AM (xv43o)
nominee, but I will not vote at all if Trump jumps on the illegal
bandwagon by signing this. I will not play Charlie Brown's football and
hope Lucy Pelosi will be honest next time. Illegals streaming over the
border, Planned Parenthood still funded. Hillary and Comey
unindicted....this shit does not get my vote.
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 11:48 AM (U7k5w)
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Me too. Trump screwed us. His answers or lack of them in regards to this how this whole thing went down are unacceptable.
Wah wah, "people didn't step up"
It's already over. Someone should have told him two years ago that he was president.
Demographics win. A future civil war is guaranteed now. Sure as the sun rising in the morning.
What actually shocks me is how incompetent he seems. I always figured it was part of his plan.
Now I find out he had no plan. Just failure theater for the rubes.
Posted by: Options at February 15, 2019 12:02 PM (JV8Vm)
Posted by: West at February 15, 2019 12:05 PM (7Fa8Y)
Posted by: mrp at February 15, 2019 12:05 PM (Pqytn)
Hardly. What, with Ruthie scheduled to kick the bucket soon.
Abortion to be made illegal at the fed level.
Gun ownership by law abiding legal citizens in the USA skyrocketing.
Well, to answer your question: No. We have lots and lots of winning in store.
Posted by: Martell at February 15, 2019 12:07 PM (jtWL9)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 12:08 PM (fYfkW)
Posted by: Tnuctipun revenge at February 15, 2019 12:08 PM (Wa5hI)
Trump screwed us.
Posted by: Options at February 15, 2019 12:11 PM (JV8Vm)
Level of gun ownership 2018: 43%
"Skyrocketing"
Trumpaloon: how do facts work?
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 12:11 PM (fYfkW)
Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at February 15, 2019 12:12 PM (9AcAx)
Posted by: Off the reservation at February 15, 2019 12:15 PM (vWMNq)
It's taken us a minimum of 30 years to get to this place, over 100 if you count back to Wilson. We can't expect to turn it around over night.
So, we build a will but there are holes where democratic politicians or corruption are in place. Guess here the mess is directed? Guess where the pressure builds.
The Dem congress will be alienating the majority of centrist and independent Americans in the next 1.5 years.
We are in a fight. We can't be pussies about it. We literally have no viable alternative today to trump, on wither side. Fight through the discouragement, see it as a incremental win, the setting of a foundation for a longer fight.
Posted by: Keith at February 15, 2019 12:17 PM (jdGlx)
Trump has been fighting. And the GOP has been fighting against him: see Syria, etc. See Obamacare.
The problem here isn't that Trump is losing. It's that he's giving up without a fight. I wouldn't hold it against him if he veto'd this bill, said why, and got overridden. That's on the GOP cucks and the dems then.
But doing it this way? He's the one owning it.
He already signed one shit bill that he said he regretted and he never should have signed, because he trusted Paul Ryan, a guy who every Trump supporter knew was completely un-fucking-trustworthy, especially on this issue.
Why the fuck should I support a guy who will cave?
If you make me choose between a right-wing candidate who will fight hard and lose, and one who will just give up and do failure theatre, I'll take the first one. At least his fighting may inspire people. At least he can push for cultural change.
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 12:17 PM (DUynq)
Posted by: MW at February 15, 2019 12:21 PM (hNTtn)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 12:24 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2019 12:25 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: the Butcher at February 15, 2019 12:26 PM (DIosY)
Nice work.
Posted by: MW at February 15, 2019 12:29 PM (hNTtn)
Non-sequitur. But nice try.
Trump failed and failed spectacularly here.
Shit, I was stunned to hear him speaking about "people not stepping up". Really? Really? Really?
He really doesn't give a shit about us immigration voters. That's why at two years in he looks like a dear in headlights about the topic and his not doing anything real about it. Failure theater.
The wall just got ten feet higher. Not.
Two years wasted. Two years.
Posted by: Options at February 15, 2019 12:31 PM (JV8Vm)
Right now there's some white guy in South Africa saying this to explain why it totally makes sense to cut a deal with the ANC and allow some 'orderly' amount of taking land from white farmers without compensation, and how maybe in 50 years things will be better. Chalk this up as a partial win!
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 12:31 PM (DUynq)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 15, 2019 11:53 AM (AmZyC)
It is when he signs it.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at February 15, 2019 12:32 PM (77G+m)
Posted by: dw at February 15, 2019 12:32 PM (stPAM)
I hope everybody here realizes that "Okay, that's it, I'm DONE with
Trump" is PRECISELY the reaction the Democrats and NeverTrumpers were
shooting for with this situation.
Nice work.
Posted by: MW at February 15, 2019 12:29 PM (hNTtn)"
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I think you're missing something here.
A lot of us view Trump as the last hail-mary shot to fix things generally within the system. If we roll out of this with a bill that effectively neuters immigration enforcement, then that attempt is done; there is no reviving it, it's toast.
At that point, the best course of action is to withdraw support from all of the GOPe frog-boiling bullshit. Hell, I honestly think it'd be time to just vote for the looniest, most evil Dem you can pull the lever for. The sooner the Dems think they're in the clear, the sooner they'll fuckup and things will kick off.
Because with unchecked illegal immigration, things WILL kick off. The longer we dick around with the GOP pretending to represent us, the weaker a position we will be in when that time comes.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at February 15, 2019 12:35 PM (67XdO)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 12:36 PM (fYfkW)
Then I guess it would be really, really stupid for Trump to sign that bill, eh? Clearly it's a Democrat and NeverTrumper trap.
He'd be stupid to fall for it. Clear as day, it's a mistake.
Right?
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 12:38 PM (DUynq)
A nation where one faction can tag-team in votes and seat-apportioning census population from over the border on demand is not a nation anymore. If they fuck this up, it's going to make the Spanish civil war look like a soccer riot.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at February 15, 2019 12:39 PM (67XdO)
Level of gun ownership 2018: 43%
"Skyrocketing"
Trumpaloon: how do facts work?
Not too well coming from the likes of you?
Posted by: Martell at February 15, 2019 12:41 PM (YT8K5)
Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at February 15, 2019 12:42 PM (TPgeI)
Even assuming above was true would pale in comparison to selling socialism to Americans given the 100million dead in its wake.
Posted by: Martell at February 15, 2019 12:44 PM (YT8K5)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 12:46 PM (fYfkW)
Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at February 15, 2019 12:47 PM (9AcAx)
Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at February 15, 2019 12:51 PM (9AcAx)
And he promised he would never get rolled again by another massive, last minute, poison-pilled spending bill.
Veto the thing and demand Congress come up with a real spending bill.
Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at February 15, 2019 12:52 PM (9AcAx)
Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at February 15, 2019 12:53 PM (9AcAx)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 12:54 PM (fYfkW)
Yup.
You have to admit, we really should have seen this coming.
He waited until AFTER the Democrats took control of the House to pull this.
Posted by: rayj at February 15, 2019 12:56 PM (pI/IV)
"If the President may properly decline to enforce a law, at least when it unconstitutionally encroaches on his powers, then it arguably follows that he may properly announce to Congress and to the public that he will not enforce a provision of an enactment he is signing. If so, then a signing statement that challenges what the President determines to be an unconstitutional encroachment on his power, or that announces the President's unwillingness to enforce (or willingness to litigate) such a provision, can be a valid and reasonable exercise of Presidential authority.[5]"
Posted by: starboardhelm at February 15, 2019 12:57 PM (hOtJL)
"hi, I was a MAGA trump voter. I was wondering why trump signed a bill that was amnesty and limited our ability to deport. I thought you were good at making deals?"
Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at February 15, 2019 12:59 PM (9AcAx)
Trump laid down his markers during the SOTU, made the sale to the country, then evidently decided that he could trust the Dems and NeverTrumpers not to warp and undermine his proposals. None of this sounds like a successful CEO to me, so I am at a total loss as to what is going on. But those here blaming the GOPe swine are barking up the wrong tree. The boss is the boss and if he can't even get his way on the most important issue facing the country then... he ain't the boss after all.
Posted by: Lawrence Larson at February 15, 2019 01:04 PM (huJwx)
Posted by: Martell at February 15, 2019 01:10 PM (6CWvV)
I think he's done great stuff. I don't blame him for failures handed to him by the RINOs and the Uniparty cucks.
But he already played his 'I believed them and they tricked me' card with one spending bill. "I believed Paul Ryan" is a pathetic enough excuse to use as to why he didn't get his wall built in the first two years, when the GOP had control. Probably because they told him 'Mister President, if you try to get that wall, we'll oppose it, and then we'll be slaughtered during the election.'
If in a month or three it turns out all the critics of this bill were right (and they were right about the last one) and he says "I believed Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell", who the fuck will he be kidding?
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 01:23 PM (DUynq)
Nice work.
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Ahem, you left out somebody who also had a role in setting up this bitter disappointment to his base, didn't you?
Posted by: Lawrence Larson at February 15, 2019 01:24 PM (huJwx)
Then what? Wait for a bill that ISN'T full of poison pills and shit, and sign that one? Good luck.
Leave the government unfunded for a month? Six months? A year?
Good. Abandon Trump. To hell with him. To hell with the GOP. To hell with everything. Stay home next election. Heck, vote for the Democrats. Show how pissed off you are, as if any of the people making you angry will actually be aware of your opinion. When the Democrats finally get their own Hugo Chavez into the Oval Office, and take the absolute power they think is theirs by divine right, you can strut around bragging about how you showed THEM all right.
Posted by: MW at February 15, 2019 01:28 PM (hNTtn)
Posted by: DDMeow at February 15, 2019 01:35 PM (nh8ys)
Posted by: DDMeow at February 15, 2019 01:39 PM (nh8ys)
What's the alternative again?
You've said they'll shoot down everything and put poison pills in every bill. The GOP didn't build the wall when they had the house, senate and presidency, and we all know why - most of the GOP hates the wall, hates immigration controls, and doesn't want to stop it. They even have Trump now saying that he's going to import more people into the country - legally - than ever before.
And we're on the cusp of Trump signing a bill loaded with poison pills that will undermine everything he wants to do.
They can't even protect this country's borders, but they'll stop a left-wing dictator from rising?
C'mon.
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 01:50 PM (DUynq)
Posted by: Joseph dagostino at February 15, 2019 02:01 PM (LqdHh)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 02:16 PM (fYfkW)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 02:16 PM (fYfkW)
At least we won't be miserable for the next six years.
MAGA gets reelected in a land slide.
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 15, 2019 02:39 PM (xv43o)
Posted by: Martell at February 15, 2019 02:52 PM (6CWvV)
Apparently even Trump forgets why we got Trump.
If the obvious happens, and the result of this bill is 'More refugees, more border flooding, more amnesty, and also the wall doesn't get built or only some piddling section gets built', Trump is going to get primaried in 2020.
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 02:56 PM (DUynq)
Posted by: Iblis at February 15, 2019 03:08 PM (erz+D)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 03:11 PM (fYfkW)
Look forward to replacing Ruth, building more of the wall, the census win, the hideous common core be gone, retirement plans gaining more and the hatred filled bile of leftists becoming more visible to independents.
The next six years are going to be incredible. We are running for our lives whereas the left is running for more power. The question is: can we convince in a timely fashion most Americans of the lefts deceit and intent to culturally replace us?
Posted by: Martell at February 15, 2019 03:16 PM (6CWvV)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 03:20 PM (fYfkW)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 03:20 PM (fYfkW)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 03:21 PM (fYfkW)
I mean really, let's think about this. The main reasons Trump spent over $100M of his own money to get this job were (1) to keep America from turning into Venezuela, with open borders being the main tool for the Socialist to accomplish that, and (2) to stop America from getting ripped off by China and everybody else.
Could it really be that he has traitors within his midst telling him lies about how this bill is OK? Could it be that he really doesn't know it's a poison pill? It really CAN'T be that he's a fraud about illegal immigration - we've got 100 million reasons why that's not true.
But the Republican Congress-creatures voting for this? THEY need to be primaried, if HALF of what we're hearing is true.
Posted by: Optimizer at February 15, 2019 03:43 PM (hOOi9)
What is "Things everyone would be saying if Jeb! won in 2016?", Alex?
>The question is: can we convince in a timely fashion most Americans of the lefts deceit and intent to culturally replace us?
Well, at least we didn't just pass a spending bill that guarantees there will be more leftists in the US to do that, right?
Next up: Trump can start giving campaign speeches entirely in spanish. 4d chess, muchacho, 4d chess.
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 03:45 PM (DUynq)
All kinds of possibilities.
Terrible advice.
Family pressure.
Threats from the GOP.
Changed his mind.
Keep in mind one of his defenses was that he trusted Paul Ryan would get his wall. Paul Ryan! Who the fuck trusts Paul Ryan at his word? Why not just say he believed the promises of John McCain too?
Posted by: SecBlasphemy at February 15, 2019 03:49 PM (DUynq)
Posted by: Bruno Vecchia at February 15, 2019 03:49 PM (fYfkW)
Btw, beast = cankles = Hildebeast
Speaking broken Spanish did not help RINO Jebito much to peel away votes from Trumps 60plus million supporters.
Posted by: Martell at February 15, 2019 04:22 PM (6CWvV)
Posted by: JoeofPA at February 15, 2019 06:19 PM (gPJYl)
McConnell and his merry bunch of nutless buttboys have gone from pissing in our faces to shitting down our throats.
Posted by: Voter theater. at February 15, 2019 07:11 PM (6LYfC)
There are many ways to skin a cat, and T has been around long enough to know a few.
Trump' base is getting more loyalty from him than they're giving to him.
Posted by: Molly at February 15, 2019 09:52 PM (YhXpT)
Posted by: DFCtomm at February 16, 2019 01:56 AM (50gG9)
Posted by: Optimizer at February 15, 2019 03:43 PM (hOOi9)
He loves his kids more than anything else, wives not so much, but kids, yes. If they've made believable threats against his family, then he'll do it, most would.
Posted by: DFCtomm at February 16, 2019 01:59 AM (50gG9)
Posted by: Cliffy at February 16, 2019 09:27 AM (H3nZ4)
"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No." They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father or President Truman. Decent men who believed in a day's work for a day's pay. Instead they followed the droppings of lechers and communists and didn't realize that the trail led over a precipice until it was too late. Don't tell me they didn't have a choice."
Dont tell me PDT didnt have a choice. He just lacked the spine to make the hard one.
Posted by: AntiCuck at February 16, 2019 09:47 AM (zcxxG)
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