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LOL: Amazon, in a "Stunning Reversal," Will Not Build Its Major New Headquarters In NYC
Alexandria Donkey-Chompers wins. And it's too bad, because I hear there are a lot of low-skilled hipsters in Brooklyn who need work lately. Learn to code, bitches.Amazon will not build a new headquarters in New York City, a stunning reversal to an ambitious plan that would have brought an estimated 25,000 jobs to the city. The online retailer faced fierce opposition from some New York politicians who were unhappy with the nearly $3 billion in tax incentives Amazon was promised. Along with thousands of jobs, the Seattle company had planned spend $2.5 billion building its new offices. ... It was a serious blow to Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio, who lobbied intensely to land the campus within city limits.I actually have no idea if I support such lavish giveaways to attract a business. These don't seem fair to businesses already located in the city. If you just keep offering tax deals to a certain number of favored companies, doesn't the tax burden shift to those who aren't being given sweetheart deals? But I'm going to LOL anyway.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: navybrat on a mission from Odin at February 14, 2019 12:55 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 14, 2019 12:55 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: rickl at February 14, 2019 12:55 PM (xjiRE)
Posted by: RCW3000 at February 14, 2019 12:56 PM (Y9z1H)
I know, joking.
Hutzler 571 Banana Slicer!!! Now available in left handed cuts.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 14, 2019 12:56 PM (KeAJH)
Posted by: nip at February 14, 2019 12:57 PM (DfGpI)
Posted by: nip at February 14, 2019 12:57 PM (DfGpI)
For three very large in incentives.
Having said that, screw those guys because they cry about how the low tax states have unfair advantages. Blow it out your ass.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 14, 2019 12:57 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at February 14, 2019 12:57 PM (n2qRY)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 14, 2019 12:57 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (gC2IV)
So, naturally, NY chased out Amazon.
#Winning!
Posted by: blake - used High Sierra Salesman at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (qC1Sy)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (bim/x)
This makes my schadenboner smile.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (37IEG)
As a resident of this forsaken state, same.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (yTfbH)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (BXMxN)
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 14, 2019 12:59 PM (sLicW)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 14, 2019 12:59 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 12:59 PM (6qErC)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 14, 2019 12:59 PM (0O7c5)
WINNING!
This friends, will be said.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 14, 2019 12:59 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Alexandia McBugeye Donkey-Chompers at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (otZA3)
Posted by: SMOD at February 14, 2019 12:55 PM (QkjLD)
HE HASN'T WON YET!!!!
Posted by: Alexandria Obviously-Braindead at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (8ov+p)
It was a dumb idea to begin with.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (BqByW)
Hmm, but a wall is too expensive, you say...
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (Ry8mf)
If 99.9% of businesses do not qualify for a specific tax break, it's a subsidy and it's not "conservative" to support these practices where whoever has the best lobbyist, wins.
it means higher taxes for everyone else to subsidize some Governor running for election so he can brag about attracting a big name business.
Posted by: Blago at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (yhf6w)
13 What matters is that New York state and city suffer.
This makes my schadenboner smile.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (37IEG)
As a resident of this forsaken state, same.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (yTfbH)
I try not to think this will cause the highly mobile hipster asshole douchebags to leave and bring their hipster asshole douchebag ways to US in Texas.
but it will.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Jeff Bozo at February 14, 2019 01:01 PM (zGN7G)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 01:01 PM (BXMxN)
Posted by: Ersatz at February 14, 2019 01:01 PM (zuVZw)
NYC won the bidding war, offering the best offer to Amazon out of everyone.
Will whoever gets the new location be offering an equally good option, or will it less advantageous?
Will the first process turn off some locations from even trying in a second round?
I hope that this sort of government giveaway ends, but I'm not deluded enough to think that it actually will, especially for a big fish like Amazon.
But, will it recede slightly?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:01 PM (ANN96)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (BXMxN)
Posted by: Delaforce the Now Explosive Mechanic. Where's the Snackbar? at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (7I7KY)
Because putting a fulfillment center anywhere near NYC is a retarded idea.
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (otZA3)
And then it turned into a eff-up.
Posted by: blaster at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (9VeU0)
Posted by: AOC at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (EDU7t)
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (WaWnz)
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: navybrat on a mission from Odin at February 14, 2019 12:55 PM (w7KSn)
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Businesses that want to shift the tax burden off of themselves and on to their employees would do well there.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (ffYR/)
Posted by: Ersatz at February 14, 2019 01:01 PM (zuVZw)
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Does a Marxist have any sense of history?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (ANN96)
Action Item ONE: Install random clicking sound generator on all of McCabe's personal phones.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (Boy/L)
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For Amazon it's mostly access to ports of entry. They ought to move to Elizabeth NJ just to piss Cuomo off
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 01:03 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:03 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (CDGwz)
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It makes sense if NYC is going to pretty much let you build tax free with some other goodies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:03 PM (ANN96)
I can see cases made for small-ish inducements, the idea being that once they're here, it'll be good and they'll stay, you just have to persuade them a bit. It works (sometimes) with airports and airlines, or the petitions to get a local franchise of X Fast-Food Place (or whatever), but I'm sure it's a case-by-case thing. (And sometimes it's, "Well, all three of these places look good, which one looks best or has the best welcome wagon?" as opposed to "Oh, look, free money to do what we were going to do anyway" or "Ha ha let's bilk these rubes then bail in a year".)
Oh, and in terms of yugely expensive sports stadiums and fields and such? Hard pass. Big no. Bad Idea Jeans.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 14, 2019 01:03 PM (84QUd)
This foolishness is our gain!
We will bring the horse into the city, and enjoy all the benefits thereof!
Posted by: King Priam of Texas at February 14, 2019 01:03 PM (37IEG)
Under my plan, those buildings will still get built and those jobs will still be created.
Posted by: AOC at February 14, 2019 01:03 PM (CDGwz)
The Cuomo's of the world never understand or want to understand that having wealth creates mobility and beyond a certain point, those who can afford the taxes are also able to afford to leave.
Posted by: blake - used High Sierra Salesman at February 14, 2019 01:03 PM (qC1Sy)
Not to mention the scenery!
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (otZA3)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (BXMxN)
Posted by: Blago at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (+y/Ru)
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I think it was just SJW signaling. Should have moved it to Austin.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (2DOZq)
That's some cognitive dissonance right there.
Posted by: WisRich at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 14, 2019 01:05 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 01:05 PM (/tuJf)
445 It's in Boston. There isn't anything other than he said she said from 14 years leter, and the accused is a Democrat.
See if you can guess what they decide. "
Actually the Rape Charges have got better chances of being filed than you may think. First off, and perhaps most importantly, the Boston DA is a woman who's especially hard on rape cases.
Second, forget the smokescreens about "no corroboration" - Fairfax already admitted that yes, they were together that night, and yes, they had some form of sexual relations. So, 90% of her story has already been confirmed by the Accused (stupidly). No need at all now to establish whether or not "it" happened, it did, he confessed - the only question is whether it was consensual, or whether it was forced.
And that is a question only a jury can decide, and it will come down to who is more credible in the courtroom. Almost EVERY rape case ever filed between two people who knew each other comes down to that exact same question, it's nothing new.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:05 PM (Kpl3J)
I drove past it a while back.
It's humongous.
They call it a "Fulfillment Center"
Have no idea what that even means.
Supposed to employ only 1500 people.
Article:
https://tinyurl.com/yyob58oo
Posted by: franksalterego at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (3cq8T)
Posted by: wth at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (tGvsw)
That's some cognitive dissonance right there.
Posted by: WisRich at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (G0vdT)
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Well, the state doesn't print its own money money.
Apparently Monetary Theory (the halfbaked economic theory that she subscribes to) is all about how a nation large enough that prints its own money doesn't need to worry about its debt ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (ANN96)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (+y/Ru)
That's some cognitive dissonance right there.
Posted by: WisRich at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (G0vdT)
LOL
Love that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (bim/x)
But look people, we got a deep cleavage here between people and billionaires!
We gotta jiggle things up a bit, and get busy for da people!
Posted by: Alexandria Ocrazyass-Sexytalk at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (DuAZ5)
Posted by: weew at February 14, 2019 01:07 PM (EaEMG)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 14, 2019 01:07 PM (LWu6U)
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By wins, I believe you mean 'wins a primary challenge from her own party, funded by Cuomo.'
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2019 01:07 PM (YslsA)
Have no idea what that even means.
***
All the crap they ship.
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 01:07 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 14, 2019 01:07 PM (LWu6U)
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I'd rather just have a regulatory and tax environment attractive enough in general that can bring in business of all kinds and sizes.
But I'm just a fuddy-duddy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:08 PM (ANN96)
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 01:08 PM (xxAFD)
Amazon isn't going to be hiring a bunch of local lefties to staff their new HQ....at least not local NY lefties. (If they go to Austin, similar risks)
Ocasional Cortex managed to deprive NYC of hundreds of millions of dollars in income, which should reduce her political lifespan.
And I just saved a ton on my car insurance.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:08 PM (bcbK8)
I don't mind big businesses that will be a net benefit to the city. That's a win win even for businesses that don't get the breaks. What I hate the most is subsidizing billionaires play toys, ie; sports franchises.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:08 PM (2DOZq)
No scenario involving these to parties adequately gets them both what they deserve.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (KUaJL)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (BXMxN)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (GBteo)
What was that warning about embracing vipers to your bosom?
"Oh", cried the Texan with his last breath "I am rightly served for pitying a scoundrel."
The greatest kindness will not bind the ungrateful.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (37IEG)
Apparently Monetary Theory (the halfbaked economic theory that she subscribes to) is all about how a nation large enough that prints its own money doesn't need to worry about its debt ever."
The Big Irony is that EVERYONE in our government, in both parties today, believes that. But they know they're not ever supposed to say it out loud.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)
Have no idea what that even means.
Supposed to employ only 1500 people.
Article:
https://tinyurl.com/yyob58oo
Posted by: franksalterego at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (3cq8T)
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Fulfillment center is just like it sounds. It is where they warehouse, package and ship the inventory to fulfill their orders.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (ffYR/)
In the meantime, we taxpayers in Virginia have had to cough up the big bucks to Amazon in "incentives" so that ultra-prosperous, low-unemployment NoVA gets a center.
I don't like these special deals in the first place but, at least when they go to places that are struggling economically, you can see more benefit.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (Rxduq)
Have no idea what that even means.
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"Fulfillment Center" = fancy name for warehouse where orders are filled. Likely it will be heavily automated.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (Hx3Yn)
Apparently Monetary Theory (the halfbaked economic theory that she subscribes to) is all about how a nation large enough that prints its own money doesn't need to worry about its debt ever."
The Big Irony is that EVERYONE in our government, in both parties today, believes that. But they know they're not ever supposed to say it out loud.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)
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Buy gold!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (ANN96)
Bezos needs to save his pennies for alimony I guess.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (tGvsw)
Perhaps the soon to be ex Mrs. Bezos plans on selling off a lot of her stock and it could be to people who aren't fond of Jeff either.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:10 PM (TAmPV)
That's some cognitive dissonance right there.
Posted by: WisRich
>Print more money? That's Weimar Republic tatics right there.
Next, AOC will say to use our worthless money as fuel.
Posted by: Delaforce the Now Explosive Mechanic. Where's the Snackbar? at February 14, 2019 01:10 PM (7I7KY)
Posted by: franksalterego at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (3cq8T)
Businesses went from "warehouse" to "distribution center" because of just in time. And then to "fulfillment center" because it sounds nice. It's all about the feel.
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 01:10 PM (xxAFD)
Have no idea what that even means.
Supposed to employ only 1500 people.
Article:
https://tinyurl.com/yyob58oo
Posted by: franksalterego at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (3cq8T)
Where they actually pick and pack the orders. These things are highly automated, IIRC, and freaking huge because they are basically storing (briefly) the stuff that's being picked and packed. Working there is exhausting because you're going constantly and there are metrics for how much you're supposed to get done over a given shift. It's a job for the young, apparently.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 01:10 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: cpurick at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (7YrFp)
Posted by: dananjcon at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (xqfqx)
BUT, here's the thing -- the billions in "tax breaks" are largely based on theoretical taxes. The city agreed to hold Amazons property taxes down for a period of time instead of taxing them at what they would otherwise be taxed at for the massive building they wanted to build.
But like... now they're just going to continue to get an even lower amount of property taxes from the buildings that currently exist there.
It didn't cost the city anything (realistically) to offer this "tax break" because it was, again, a tax on the THEORETICAL building that amazon was going to build.
Now it won't get built at all, so...
Way to go, NYC.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Joey "Two Shakes" Biden at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (0bNXR)
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 01:08 PM
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You know, I'm beginning to wonder what is really going on? With AOC stealing the spotlight, what's going on behind the scenes? What are we missing? How much of this is misdirection?
Posted by: Diogenes at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (0tfLf)
The Big Irony is that EVERYONE in our government, in both parties today, believes that. But they know they're not ever supposed to say it out loud.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)
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Buy gold!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (ANN96)
That sounds a lot like the theory that Zimbabwe and Venezuela operated on...
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (J+mig)
This ain't the 1960's where places like NYC have a hold on companies, just because. Technology ensures they can exist just about anywhere.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: ShainS -- Registered Hat Offender at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (CESUr)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (0O7c5)
I don't mind big businesses that will be a net benefit to the city. That's a win win even for businesses that don't get the breaks. What I hate the most is subsidizing billionaires play toys, ie; sports franchises.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation
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But isn't that just different versions of Solyndra?
If you're part of the right "tribe" of business, you get hooked up. The mom and pop company don't get shit because Cuomo can't brag about those companies.
It really gives politicians a lot of power and means you have to grease palms to get a fair shake.
Posted by: Blago at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (UfkIY)
We'll just call those suckers that end up stuck paying "middle-class companies". Then, they'll sit there and take it and pay for the freeloaders without bitching.
Posted by: Roy at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (8RFw7)
Be a Forensic Files show in under 60 days when both are found dead under strange circumstances in the mansion.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (tGvsw)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (TAmPV)
Bezos is into kink I hear.
Posted by: torabora at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (J+mig)
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The results in America are going to make Zimbabwe look like a third world shithole!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (ANN96)
Posted by: Jeff Bezos Penis at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (3JbJY)
Have no idea what that even means.
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All the crap they ship.
Yeah, Amazon sells not only their own crap, but other people's crap too - sometimes even competing. I'll buy other people's crap if Amazon's crap charges CA 9% sales tax.
So basically a giant warehouse full of crap, a zillion robots to get the crap, and a few human drones to package the crap. https://youtu.be/Y-lBvI6u_hw
Posted by: clutch cargo at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (sLicW)
Winners:
business - free money
developers - real estate value goes up
politicians - lots of cash changing hands means more room for graft
losers:
taxpayer - his taxes go up (where else does the money come from?)
low income locals - rents higher
unemployed locals - no one does this for min. wage jobs, the jobs are always high paying jobs, often attracting outsiders and with them moving to low tax enclaves near the city.
competitors to business - obvious. now they too have to move to get tax beaks
other businesses - rates up, salaries up taxes up. Hey - it's almost like a death cycle.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (LWu6U)
But oh this is delicious. Someone asked I wonder how the Amazon people who snapped up condos on LIC feel right now. Hahahahahahaha.
I'm not a good person.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (mf5HN)
Have no idea what that even means.
That's the warehouse where your anal beads pass thru on the way to your front door.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - last single man standing on Valentine's Day?? at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (8ov+p)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (VpIIl)
Womp, womp x1000!
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: cpurick at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (7YrFp)
FUCK YOU, that's were it is. And by the way have I indicted you on perjury charges yet?
Posted by: The Swamp at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 01:08 PM
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She would be on my side then.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Loacoon at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy
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It is normally a temporary tax break. Meanwhile, the employees are working and paying state and local taxes, sales taxes are being collected, and after a short while, the business is paying its normal share of income and property tax. Sort of a 'buy the first year for half price' type of deal. Once they move in, it is expensive to move again.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (YslsA)
Posted by: franksalterego at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (3cq8T)
Posted by: MacGruber at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (S+el1)
Heh-heh
I do like to see these assholes fight with each other.
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: torabora at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Delaforce the Now Explosive Mechanic. Where's the Snackbar? at February 14, 2019 01:10 PM (7I7KY)
But only if you fold it into fans and wave them around. Wind power is allowed but burning is not.
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (WaWnz)
They call it a "Fulfillment Center"
Have no idea what that even means.
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 01:07 PM
You manufacture widgets. You ship 1,000 to Amazon. They stick 'em on a shelf, process the order, ship them to customer for you. They notify you when inventory is low and you ship them another 1,000 widgets.
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (jYje5)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (BXMxN)
But the only part that paying attention to is the 3 billion. Idiots.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (ePjOB)
Silicon valley money is the only thing left keeping California finances above water.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (Kpl3J)
Imagine the carbon footprint from all that burning.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 01:10 PM (RD7QR)
A place to be ridden into the ground for peanuts, then gotten rid of once the workload blows out your back and joints.
All of our virtue-signalling betters in DC have nothing bad to say about it, because it's only the non-preferred classes being exploited.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (J+mig)
It's absolutely frightening that OCrazy-Eyes is already being given such deference and handed the keys to the throne.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (UnA8+)
Have no idea what that even means.
fully filled with mints, obviously.
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: Juicy Fruit Small-ette at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (GEhPL)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (VpIIl)
actually so did I, but with the construction ( and yeah that's a mess) it's not a bad airport now. BETTER than Newark
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (cqNba)
Buy gold!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (ANN96)
You can't eat that stuff, and you can't use it to trade for things that are useful until you get the beginning of a stable economy going.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (37IEG)
But I'm going to LOL anyway.
.........
These deals are not that unfair or egregious as they seem, Ace.
First off.. they are giving away nothing. Potential tax revenues are fairy dust.
If Amazon decides not to reside in NY, then the tax base has not changed by one cent.
If they do, NY gets tax revenues from 25,000 new well paid jobs.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (+ldAm)
I am not a Bezos customer.
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (RuIsu)
Buy gold!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (ANN96)
You can't eat that stuff, and you can't use it to trade for things that are useful until you get the beginning of a stable economy going.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (37IEG)
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It doesn't spoil.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (ANN96)
It just ensures that the state/city/whatever is filled with the "right kinds of business" that are properly socially conscious (read: committed to stupid evil leftism) and those icky businesses that won't bend the knee to leftism get filtered out.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (KUaJL)
I wonder if Amazon really walked because of the objections by "politicians and others." There must have been some credible threats that the giveaways could become takebacks.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:16 PM (13CQC)
Same Roman villa in Pompeii that has the sensual fresco of Jupiter and Leda has revealed another treasure in fresco - one of Narcissus.
https://phys.org/news/2019-02-pompeii-uncovers-narcissus-fresco-ancient.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:16 PM (tGvsw)
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 14, 2019 01:16 PM (lD3vL)
taxpayer - his taxes go up (where else does the money come from?)
low income locals - rents higher
unemployed locals - no one does this for min. wage jobs, the jobs are always high paying jobs, often attracting outsiders and with them moving to low tax enclaves near the city.
competitors to business - obvious. now they too have to move to get tax beaks
other businesses - rates up, salaries up taxes up. Hey - it's almost like a death cycle.
Amazon employees (would have gotten to) - Pay NY income tax
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2019 01:16 PM (W+vEI)
the debt, saying the Gov't can just print money to fund her GND but
hells bells, we can't spend a dime to create 25,000 jobs in the State
she represents.
That's some cognitive dissonance right there.
Posted by: WisRich at February 14, 2019 01:04 PM (G0vdT)
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Well, the state doesn't print its own money money.
Apparently Monetary Theory (the halfbaked economic theory that she
subscribes to) is all about how a nation large enough that prints its
own money doesn't need to worry about its debt ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (ANN96)
I am ashamed of economics schools everywhere that this fool was allowed to earn an economics degree and remain this blindingly stupid.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (AmZyC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (bim/x)"
Come see me when they extend the runway. I almost ended up in Jamaica Bay, twice. I'm not going for number three.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (0OmEj)
Anything to stick it to De Bolshevik and 'Catholic Baby Murderer' Cuomo is fine by me.
Posted by: Gov. 'Blackface' Northam at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (Y8PSl)
Posted by: Hikaru
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On the contrary, with every day that passes, she becomes more of a problem for them. She will be primaried.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (YslsA)
Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (ePjOB)
I wonder if Amazon really walked because of the objections by "politicians and others." There must have been some credible threats that the giveaways could become takebacks.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:16 PM (13CQC)
Bezos was likely told that bad things will happen to him if he makes OCrazy-Eyes look bad.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (VpIIl
What? Can't you swim? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: RickZ at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (Y8PSl)
Posted by: Diogenes at February 14, 2019 01:11 PM (0tfLf)
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I think they're being pretty open about goals. The main one being mass illegal immigration. But they are shifting from one topic to another to keep people's attention off of it, and to make them care about other things.
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (xxAFD)
The thing was freaking huge. Right next to an airport and the highway (I-90? I-94?), if I recall correctly.
The movement of "stuff" is highly automated, but they use lots of humans who remain stationary (so they don't get run over) to pack the boxes. It's pretty clever, really, but I wouldn't want to be a packer.
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (VP1E6)
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 14, 2019 12:58 PM (JFO2v)
"Jeff Bezos"
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (sy5kK)
subscribes to) is all about how a nation large enough that prints its
own money doesn't need to worry about its debt ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (ANN96)
I am ashamed of economics schools everywhere that this fool was allowed to earn an economics degree and remain this blindingly stupid.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (AmZyC)
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She learned what they taught.
I don't believe it included a basic micro-economics course, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (ANN96)
FIFY
Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (Hx3Yn)
That's assuming there will be no new infrastructure needed to support a new business employing 25,000.
If you look at the history of things like stadiums that is pretty much never the case.
Still, I agree that the new jobs will generate a lot of new tax revenue.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (OLCnA)
And also - for 100,000 new jobs, when the labor market is already tight, it means you've got to build new housing for 100,000 people, and grocery stores, and drug stores, and so forth and so on.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (Kpl3J)
don't need gold anymore, now that we have bitcoin. just don't forget your password!
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (sGtp+)
There's a lot of rumors goin' around, about how it's going to be a slave camp.
This thing is out in the middle of nowhere... No other businesses nearby... Closest restaurant is 5 miles away.
Posted by: franksalterego at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (3cq8T)
Oil companies get 'Tax Loopholes'..
Weird how that works out like that.
Posted by: Blanco at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (QGdDN)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (YslsA)
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And the start of the Democratic Party split will be upon us...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (ANN96)
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Yes. They want and need to get new blood but they're embracing the seriously mentally ill
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (JHXFb)
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It doesn't spoil.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (ANN96)
True, and it's not a bad thing, but I'm concerned with lasting the 1st 6 months or so, not the longer term.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (WaWnz)
Buy gold!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (ANN96)
You can't eat that stuff, and you can't use it to trade for things that are useful until you get the beginning of a stable economy going.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (37IEG)
Buy whores!
Posted by: Swearengen at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (D7FqI)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (YslsA)
Yep and on top of that all the support services and property are fully taxed and end up being gentrified and taxed even more. You want business because it creates more business.
They moved much of the navy desk jobs to the Washington Navy yard and they built National Stadium. Neither were taxed at the going rate, in fact the first not at all. What ensued? Luxury apartments, retaurants, townhomes, office buildings etc. Jobs create growth. Growth is good especially compared to the ghetto.
My house's value just went up because of amazon moving to crystal city. Fine by me.
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (nRWPy)
I'm less okay with that one.
But still, now none of those jobs will exist in NY and NY will get no revenue.
So... win?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (bim/x)
Is that like saying Eritrea is better than Somalia?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - last single man standing on Valentine's Day?? at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (8ov+p)
But only if you vote for Pedro.
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC
I read that as
Vote for Paolo
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (jYje5)
Apparently Monetary Theory (the halfbaked economic theory that she subscribes to) is all about how a nation large enough that prints its own money doesn't need to worry about its debt ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (ANN96)
Our perpetual motion machine will work this time for sure!
Posted by: rickl at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (xjiRE)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (AmZyC)
The authors of this alleged "monetary theory" should be charged with fraud.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (J+mig)
How is it fair? It's not. It doesn't matter if the benefits to the local region are worth it. It is not capitalism.
Posted by: megabar at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (uoZbr)
The Mob
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (BXMxN)
Posted by: rammajamma at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (AjNMO)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (9hauA)
I sense they were looking for a way out because of the true cost. Amazon always wins.
No way a bunch of snowflakes turned this around.
The costs would be way too high for Amazon, regardless of tax breaks.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (OKeCc)
These deals are not that unfair or egregious as they seem, Ace.
First off.. they are giving away nothing. Potential tax revenues are fairy dust.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (so+oy
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Then I wonder why Amazon walked?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (13CQC)
I mean there are apparently no anti-trust issues ever with these new internet monopolies ...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (VP1E6)
Don't knock it till you've tried it
Posted by: Shep! at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (7HtZB)
This decision makes Cuomo and DiBlasio cry.
Therefore, it is good.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Rxduq)
Even in those circumstances where socialism has temporary victories and seems to be in charge (Nicaragua, Cambodia, the Obama administration), in the long run capitalism returns with a vengeance and kicks socialism's ass.
But most of the time, in head-to-head conflicts, Adam Smith's Invisible Hand pimp-slaps AOC's toothy grin.
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (c+2jX)
Heh
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (nRWPy)
Buy gold!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:09 PM (ANN96)
You can't eat that stuff, and you can't use it to trade for things that are useful until you get the beginning of a stable economy going.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:15 PM (37IEG)
Buy whores!
thus the need for shiny pretties and we're back to the gold.
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Roy at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (8RFw7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (bim/x)"
Not with a 450 ton aircraft strapped to my ass.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (VpIIl)
This decision makes Cuomo and DiBlasio cry.
Therefore, it is good.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Rxduq)
This
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (AmZyC)
An Economics degree WITH Honors. BU should investigate how the hell that happened.
Posted by: RickZ at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Y8PSl)
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM (M+Lyo)
****
No no no
Not really.
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM (Dc+hm)
By this logic, no one should ever pay taxes on anything new since it is all "theoretical" and if it wasn't built there would be no revenue.
The land will either be used for something else and generate tax revenue, or it will sit idle and NOT generate expense (policing, traffic, schools for new employees,.....) Taxes should not be used like some kind if revenue stream, it is a way to pay for services and costs.
If the city has an bad balance of low income citizens to high paying jobs, well amazon is not going to fix that, it will only increase rents and stratification and make those unemployed worse off.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Mark1971 at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: pincorrect at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM (vw8UI)
Even in those circumstances where socialism has temporary victories and seems to be in charge (Nicaragua, Cambodia, the Obama administration), in the long run capitalism returns with a vengeance and kicks socialism's ass.
But most of the time, in head-to-head conflicts, Adam Smith's Invisible Hand pimp-slaps AOC's toothy grin.
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (c+2jX)
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Capitalism is a natural order upon which human behavior aligns itself.
Socialism is an unnatural structure that demands subservience of basic human attributes to merely function at all.
But Socialism is sexy and stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM (ANN96)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (9hauA)
That, and the fraud, but mostly ..
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (nRWPy)
First off.. they are giving away nothing. Potential tax revenues are fairy dust. "
This, x 10,000.
Smoke n' mirrors.
And no, they're not building another HQ in Texas...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (6qErC)
Man, I wonder. She's not the only one. The democrats are reaping what they've sown by dumbing down the population. The fact that this blathering idiot isn't being laughed off loud and hard is scary. I could see the masses turn on the old guard just as easily.
Posted by: clutch cargo at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (sLicW)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:13 PM (2DOZq)
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Me too, that's why it's going to be fun. The left is getting so crazy they're eating their own. On multiple topics. Of course, there's that little thing about destroying the country that's not so fun.
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (xxAFD)
I mean there are apparently no anti-trust issues ever with these new internet monopolies ...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Cus5s)
The could get employees from the camps the want to put us in
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (ANN96)
Hopefully more than one way:
2020 ticket:
The 'adult' - Joe Biden (ha)
The 'F you that's why' - Hillary (you know it's happening)
The 'holy crap the other two aren't the most extreme' - Kamala
The 'What's a Constitution I'm doing it anyway' - Occasional Cortex (I'm aware of her age.)
Impossible? Probably.
But I can dream.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (yTfbH)
This decision makes Cuomo and DiBlasio cry.
Therefore, it is good.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Rxduq)
Oh there is plenty of douchenfreude for those guys most definitely.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (2DOZq)
I mean there are apparently no anti-trust issues ever with these new internet monopolies ...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Cus5s)
I'm ok with this. That's how Kirkland, WA got its start and other towns too, I'm sure.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (bcbK8)
Austin is so fucked if Amazon moves there - city of a million with the
infrastructure for a quarter of that. Deep blue assholes anyway so no
net loss to Texas if another 25-200k move in.
Posted by: rammajamma at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (AjNMO)
WHAT? I like the comfort of reliably being stuck on a 4 lane in bumper to bumper traffic on a Saturday afternoon at 2:00!
It makes me feel one with my homies and not at all wishing I had a fully loaded vehicle of armed destruction with which to smite idiots.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (vbJig)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (LWu6U)
He didn't explain it well, but if the jobs actually show up (i.e. the new retard that cheated his way into office doesn't fuck things up too badly) then he did a good thing. Last I heard was something like 30k jobs could potentially be coming to that area of WI. And for that reason Walker gets punished.
Dumbasses.
Posted by: GMan at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (sxq57)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)
*stands*
*applauds*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (NLLmE)
subscribes to) is all about how a nation large enough that prints its
own money doesn't need to worry about its debt ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:06 PM (ANN96)
I am ashamed of economics schools everywhere that this fool was
allowed to earn an economics degree and remain this blindingly stupid.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (AmZyC)
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She learned what they taught.
I don't believe it included a basic micro-economics course, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (ANN96)
BTW, what she ascribes to is not Monetary Theory... It's Modern Monetary Theory. Milton Friedman, she ain't.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (AmZyC)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (YslsA)
I've read where the NY Dem Powers That Be might just redistrict her out of a job due to NY's population loss. IMAO, that would be glorious.
Posted by: RickZ at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (Y8PSl)
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (BJlbN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (tGvsw)
Nice hash
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (nRWPy)
Soy oy oy! Soy yoy oy oy!
Soy yoy oy oy yoy yoy yoy!
Posted by: Bob Marley at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (VP1E6)
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I live in a residential hotel, and a couple of residents here work at an Amazon fulfillment center. I can't physically pack 3 packages per minute as they require, but those who work there could not warn me strongly enough NOT to apply for a job there. They hate it.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (ffYR/)
Vote for Paolo
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (d7Ww2)
To each her own wildest dream.
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (WaWnz)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (hECVl)
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (CDGwz)
t-bird has either revealed or stumbled on the next phase of the Amazon BORG machine.
Think about it, they started by collapsing the book market with losses until the competition was crushed and mostly bankrupt, now are the "infrastructure" for ALL e-commerce. Amazon TRACKS over a third of ALL on-line retail transactions, and every bit of data associated with it.
If you shop there, Amazon knows more about your habits than you do!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (sy5kK)
sales taxes are being collected, and after a short while, the business is paying its normal share of income and property tax.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (Kpl3J)
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Sales of what, in Amazon's case?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (13CQC)
infrastructure for a quarter of that. Deep blue assholes anyway so no
net loss to Texas if another 25-200k move in.
Posted by: rammajamma at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (AjNMO)
Yes Austin won't do anything to improve the infrastructure. /s
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (2DOZq)
But the only part that paying attention to is the 3 billion. Idiots.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (ePjOB)
From a policy perspective, I'm against these kinds of "giveaways."
From a math perspective, this was a great deal for NY. They were basically offering to use some of the taxes paid by Amazon employees to offset the taxes Amazon would owe. As in, nothing came out of the pocket of NY, it just collected fewer taxes than it otherwise would for a finite amount of time. But the only reason it would have been collecting ANY tax revenue from Amazon was because Amazon was moving there. So now, they get nothing.
And the "economic development money" was basically an offset the crazy high property taxes amazon would have been paying on their massive office space they were going to build.
Now it's not being built at all.
So this is a lose-lose-lose for NY.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (GBteo)
Shit Midas.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 14, 2019 01:23 PM (vbJig)
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Ahem... easy there.
Posted by: Barak Obama at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (pw+jk)
thus the need for shiny pretties and we're back to the gold.
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (sGtp+)
Don't forget good rotgut liquor..
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (37IEG)
Socialism is an unnatural structure that demands subservience of basic human attributes to merely function at all.
But Socialism is sexy and stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM
Sexy? Socialism is the teenage daughter leaving the room in a huff, banging her feet angrily on the steps, entering her bedroom and slamming the door behind her.
My daughter? Never.
My leftist sister when we were growing up. Constantly.
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (jYje5)
infrastructure for a quarter of that. Deep blue assholes anyway so no
net loss to Texas if another 25-200k move in.
Posted by: rammajamma at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (AjNMO)
Those blue votes would matter in state-wide elections. It is not just Austin they would be inflicted on.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (AmZyC)
2020 ticket:
The 'adult' - Joe Biden (ha)
The 'F you that's why' - Hillary (you know it's happening)
The 'holy crap the other two aren't the most extreme' - Kamala
The 'What's a Constitution I'm doing it anyway' - Occasional Cortex (I'm aware of her age.)
Impossible? Probably.
But I can dream.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 01:22 PM (yTfbH)
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The establishment candidate will win by a nose hair (Biden, probably).
The socialist wing, still stinging after Bernie's loss and their continued belief that Bernie would have beaten Trump, revolts. They're second-class citizens in their own party.
They rally around a socialist candidate (maybe Bernie).
Fingers crossed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (ANN96)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: progressives at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (RZ6R1)
Posted by: FrodoB at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (NjZfF)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (13CQC)
25,000 people, making an average of $150,000 a year moving to Long Island City and buying shit at local stores. Sales tax in NYC is 8.75% I believe.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (GBteo)
And also - for 100,000 new jobs, when the labor market is already tight, it means you've got to build new housing for 100,000 people, and grocery stores, and drug stores, and so forth and so on.
by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:18 PM (Kpl3J)
I don't know how they planned to handle the major increase in truck traffic in an area that was so dense already
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:26 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Sponge at February 14, 2019 01:26 PM (+exTc)
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at February 14, 2019 01:26 PM (NjJUT)
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (BJlbN)
It's being kept comfortable
Posted by: josephistan at February 14, 2019 01:26 PM (7HtZB)
Nobody wants to stay and be insulted by Cuomo and the Democrats in Albany. They want their liberal utopian welfare sanctuary state where they piss on minority rights and ignore the Constitution? Enjoy it.
By the way, next will be Tesla moving out of Buffalo.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:26 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: rammajamma at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (AjNMO)
With that said real Amazons seared off their right breasts before puberty so they could wield a bow more effectively and I ain't seen no mono tit women working for Jeff Bezos.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (cCxiu)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (Dc+hm)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:26 PM (TAmPV)
This wasn't a warehouse.
It was high end, 6 figure, office jobs. Coding, marketing, legal, compliance, accounting, etc.
You know, jobs that require college and advanced degrees.
Jobs that would have brought real money and real talent to long island city.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM
I fix dat for you, eh?
Posted by: Roman Moroni at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - last single man standing on Valentine's Day?? at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (8ov+p)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - last single man standing on Valentine's Day?? at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (8ov+p)
At least Eritrea didn't give us Ilhan Omar.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (UnA8+)
Vote for Paolo
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:19 PM (d7Ww2)
To each her own wildest dream.
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (WaWnz)
Whoa whoa WHOA. I saw that!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (NWiLs)
Same Roman villa in Pompeii that has the sensual fresco of Jupiter and Leda has revealed another treasure in fresco - one of Narcissus.
https://phys.org/news/2019-02-pompeii-uncovers-narcissus-fresco-ancient.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:16 PM (tGvsw)
Somehow, this too is the story of Obama...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (bcbK8)
I don't know how they planned to handle the major increase in truck traffic in an area that was so dense already
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:26 PM (TAmPV)
that's why you need 'immigrants'.
They'll pack 20 in a vehicle, and 15 in a 400 sq foot apartment.So you really don't need to add to your infrastructure at all! And they're all little teeny South American peoples so they don't take up as much space as TrigglyPuff does!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: dananjcon at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (xqfqx)
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Sounds a lot like the city of Opportunity that Handsome Jack (the primary antagonist) built for the employees of the Hyperion Corporation in the game, Borderlands 2.
Posted by: Augustine at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (BDZWU)
...
It seems to me there could actually be bipartisan support for legislation banning this sort of thing.
Greg Abbot would be among the hardest hit, but it's absolutely anti-competitive to grant tax money to huge entities that small and even large but not gigantic firms will never be given.
Not to mention the huge giveaway of tax money, and the unvoidable temptation toward corruption of public officials when such sums are involved.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM
I fix dat for you, eh?
Posted by: Roman Moroni at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (p+Wdc)
Listen to the mouth on that guy!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Augustine at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (BDZWU)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 14, 2019 01:21 PM
I fix dat for you, eh?
Posted by: Roman Moroni at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (p+Wdc)
Ice-hole cork-soaker!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Twitter - The Electronic Valu-Rite at The Outrage Outlet and Reduce Your IQ and Soul at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (hLRSq)
===
Sounds a lot like the city of Opportunity that Handsome Jack (the primary antagonist) built for the employees of the Hyperion Corporation in the game, Borderlands 2.
Posted by: Augustine at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (BDZWU)
And he would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't for that meddling Claptrap unit!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (bcbK8)
I hate to see some of NY suffer though. The county I lived in at election time went overwhelmingly for Trump by 19%.
But I've since moved out of state, got out while the getting was good.
Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (talIc)
Posted by: Boris Badenuff at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (kUTiJ)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Cus5s)
-----------------------------------
Pay people in script and have a company store with its own interesting credit system!
And since you're the only game in town, all of the politicos and cops will be on your side. Hey, they'll own Amazon stock!
Sixteen tons, baby!
Monopoly to the Nth degree!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (Rxduq)
But then again, it not moving there hurts the idiots who are out to get me and mine. Decisions, decisions....
Posted by: Dr. T at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (PXKj8)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (tGvsw)
Posted by: Augustine at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (BDZWU)
Maybe Pittsburgh. Give those Californians a taste of a western PA winter.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (bim/x)
25,000 people, making an average of $150,000 a year moving to Long Island City and buying shit at local stores. Sales tax in NYC is 8.75% I believe.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (GBteo
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Tnx. But -- $150k/year at a fulfillment center?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (13CQC)
The movement of "stuff" is highly automated, but they use lots of humans who remain stationary (so they don't get run over) to pack the boxes. It's pretty clever, really, but I wouldn't want to be a packer.
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:17 PM (VP1E6)
There's a one million square foot warehouse space being built about 10 minutes from me that's right next to the FedEx facility. As soon as the plan was announced, everyone in town said oh so we're getting an Amazon fulfillment center and the town tried to do the oh no we're not saying it's for anyone in particular and the response was uh huh right.
Town finally admitted it when the zoning plans were submitted and had the Amazon logo on the bottom of the page. Last I heard, other than getting a zoning variance, there were no tax breaks for it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (mf5HN)
#Diversity. Now with 50% more Muslim!
Posted by: Ripley at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Soylent Green New Deal at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (uloIh)
HA HA HA HA !!!
Fuch your Laws!
Posted by: Comey/Rosenstein/McCabe/Strozk/Page /Ohr/Ohr/Baker/Yates/Priesak/Brennan/Clapper /Lynch/Obama at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (sy5kK)
My family ran a very profitable fulfillment center in Hawaii.
Posted by: Mazie Hirono at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (jYje5)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (6qErC)
My daughter? Never.
My leftist sister when we were growing up. Constantly.
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 14, 2019 01:25 PM (jYje5)
Socialism is sexy because the people who like socialism have the mentality of children, and therefore also have a child's view of what's sexy.
So... these things are both true.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (KUaJL)
Someone wake Bill DeBlassis out of his fat and bloated nap.
He might need to do something.
Why the hell would Bezos build in manhattan...such a waste of money.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (z8c2c)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - last single man standing on Valentine's Day?? at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (8ov+p)
piker
Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (RZ6R1)
Posted by: Tom Servo
That's the thing. There's little sense in a mega-corp setting up in a metro area.
They have the ability to start an entire city on their own in an area that has a fraction of the costs associated with a big metro.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (0ogxh)
Posted by: t-bird at February 14, 2019 01:02 PM (CDGwz)
t-bird has either revealed or stumbled on the next phase of the Amazon BORG machine.
Think about it, they started by collapsing the book market with losses until the competition was crushed and mostly bankrupt, now are the "infrastructure" for ALL e-commerce. Amazon TRACKS over a third of ALL on-line retail transactions, and every bit of data associated with it.
If you shop there, Amazon knows more about your habits than you do!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 01:24 PM (sy5kK)
And, just to feed everyone's fears, Amazon is indeed looking into banking.
#CyberpunkIsNow
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (bcbK8)
Normally, though, I don't shop on Amazon.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (7MRhd)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (pw+jk)
Their lawyers are bogged down with #OrangeManBad 'research.'
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Insomniac
OH! Ahem,
Hi Insom!
*scurries away
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (d7Ww2)
Oh I'm not done with you yet.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (NWiLs)
Socialism is an unnatural structure that demands subservience of basic human attributes to merely function at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Bingo.
I actually hate even using the word "capitalism," which is just a made-up neologism concocted by Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx in an attempt to delegitimize the existing economic structure.
There is in fact no "system" or "ideology" known as "capitalism." Instead, it's just the word we use to describe how economic relationship naturally evolve in the absence of artificial rules imposed by force.
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (c+2jX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (tGvsw)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (Dc+hm)
Posted by: dananjcon at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (xqfqx)
Hopefully it will be better looking than her.
It isn't often you see a billionaire trade DOWN in the looks department.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - last single man standing on Valentine's Day?? at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (8ov+p)
I'd wager close to a dollar that New York sues Amazon for this.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (pw+jk)
Sure, the DA for the southern district will discover collusion with Russians after they do a no-knock raid on someone's house and office.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (NLLmE)
This wasn't a warehouse.
It was high end, 6 figure, office jobs. Coding, marketing, legal, compliance, accounting, etc.
You know, jobs that require college and advanced degrees.
Jobs that would have brought real money and real talent to long island city.
Then why are they calling it a fulfillment center?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (TAmPV)
infrastructure for a quarter of that. Deep blue assholes anyway so no
net loss to Texas if another 25-200k move in. "
If they went to Texas, they would actually build about 30 or 40 miles north near Georgetown. (that gets called "Austin" a lot of times since it's kind of in the area) That's where there's still lots of relatively cheap land that can be picked up, plus it's a growing high-tech center. A $2.5 billion campus in NYC could probably be built for half of that near Georgetown.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (Kpl3J)
Well, there's 25,000 more "not working" but collecting pay folks for Lexi Donkey-Chompers' Verde Gnu Dial!
Posted by: Lexi! Sexy! Ambidextry! at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Insomniac
OH! Ahem,
Hi Insom!
*scurries away
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (d7Ww2)
Oh I'm not done with you yet.
Posted by: Insomniac
I thought you were working......
eeek!
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (13CQC)
Not a fulfillment center.
It was Amazons east coast HQ.
All back office people. Lawyers, accountants, coders, sales people, marketing.
High paying good jobs.
It's hard to find a place in the US with a big enough pipeline of young professionals to be able to fill that many highly skilled, high paying jobs.
NYC and Boston come to mind. DC / Richmond corridor.
...Parts of TX, CA, and WA.
Yeah, this was a huge fuck up.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (VpIIl)
But, then again, she doesn't believe people should work for a living. The government must provide for them from cradle to death.
Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Every other state at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (VpIIl)
Maybe Amazon can relocate to outside of Cooperstown and make them upgrade the Hall of Fame?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (bim/x)
Tnx. But -- $150k/year at a fulfillment center?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (13CQC
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Woops, just saw #249. 25k employees mostly like that?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
Fixed.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (ePjOB)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (OLCnA)
They had to have some vision and smart people sure, but it is not normal for a company to lose money on every sale for 20 years, so as to gain market share (drive normal business out of business, since most companies need profits).
That is a problem with using easy money to "goose" the markets. We saw that with the housing bubble as well ... and now "affordable housing" means banks will gladly put you in debt forever. Same with "affordable college" .... sure, go in debt for $100k, easy money is here for you ... and the leverage ...
... don't forget the Romney raiders with their leveraged buyouts, stripping companies that had "too many" assets that weren't being used to leverage debt to the moon.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (Cus5s)
*scurries away
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (d7Ww2)
Oh I'm not done with you yet.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (NWiLs)
You two going to bang already, or do the rest of us have to watch you Ross and Rachel for a couple of years?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (tGvsw)
Indeed. It's fairy dust.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (6qErC)
I actually hate even using the word "capitalism," which is just a made-up neologism concocted by Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx in an attempt to delegitimize the existing economic structure.
There is in fact no "system" or "ideology" known as "capitalism." Instead, it's just the word we use to describe how economic relationship naturally evolve in the absence of artificial rules imposed by force.
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (c+2jX)
============
My biggest pet peeve around this argument is corporatism.
It's closer to fascism than anything else, but it's used interchangeably with capitalism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (XSSCs)
Amazon could buy a farm by a river and rail line, near a major
interstate junction ... and build its own perfect little Amazon City.
Then build dorms and fill them with H1Bs, then build a big wall around
it all ... its own post office and tax system ...
Just like The Giant Rat did down here. Good. Do we really want them mixing with the general population?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (W+vEI)
Then why are they calling it a fulfillment center?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (TAmPV)
No one leaves work who is not sexually fulfilled ...
Posted by: Bezos' House of Peckery at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 01:32 PM (TAmPV)
Who is calling it a fulfillment center?
Amazon is calling it "HQ2"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 14, 2019 01:30 PM (pw+jk)
...
If Amazon did not have gilded escape clauses they should hang their lawyers on live TV.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (yL25O)
I know - all you have to do is read the amendment to see that it has to be spearheaded by the VP, and if he isn't in on it, then the entire idea is dead before it starts.
The greatest insanity of pushing this is that it's actually EASIER to IMPEACH a President than it is to remove him through the 25th.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Andrew McCabe at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously
lol
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (NLLmE)
I pass a distribution center once a week and even going like 75 mph it takes a while to get from one end to the other. It's right off a major highway, and right next to an exit, yet it is out in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (OKeCc)
Yeah, this was a huge fuck up.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (GBteo
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Exactly who fucked up? I'm still trying to figure out why Amazon really walked. The story says it was because of "objections" by "politicians and others." There must have been some teeth behind those objections.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (13CQC)
There is in fact no "system" or "ideology" known as "capitalism." Instead, it's just the word we use to describe how economic relationship naturally evolve in the absence of artificial rules imposed by force.
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (c+2jX)
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AMEN.
Preach it!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (Rxduq)
There is in fact no "system" or "ideology" known as "capitalism." Instead, it's just the word we use to describe how economic relationship naturally evolve in the absence of artificial rules imposed by force.
Really well stated, zombie.
I have had to explain this to my daughter repeatedly over the past year (thanks a lot, mr. mini-socialist honors history teacher!) and I wish I was as succinct as you just were!
sigh.
so glad I'm paying twenty large a year for a commie-catholic private school. next year, a whole year of Social Justice class!!! hoo. ray.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (Rarvo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (bim/x)"
Well, the Chinese are already occupying the Catskills. So, maybe.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Bruce at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (VWiVo)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (13CQC)
Yeah. I have several friends who were hoping to get jobs there. I even considered applying for a job in their legal department.
Google has a big office in NYC, too, so it would have been a great ecosystem of bringing high paying jobs at tech companies in to NYC.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Insomniac
OH! Ahem,
Hi Insom!
*scurries away
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (d7Ww2)
Oh I'm not done with you yet.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM
Neither is the Paolo. Please to be patient.
Posted by: Paolo at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (13CQC)
You can say that without thinking of Donkey Chompers Cortez?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (37IEG)
I know - all you have to do is read the amendment to see that it has to be spearheaded by the VP, and if he isn't in on it, then the entire idea is dead before it starts.
The greatest insanity of pushing this is that it's actually EASIER to IMPEACH a President than it is to remove him through the 25th.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (Kpl3J)
============
Powermad VP?
Disgruntled cabinet?
Seems like an easy enough formula. At least easier than a majority of the House and 2/3 of the Senate all working together to accomplish anything, much less something as big as impeachment of a president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (XSSCs)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (d7Ww2)
The Brazilian workers revolted. "
No Alexa, no peace!
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (6qErC)
I actually hate even using the word "capitalism," which is just a
made-up neologism concocted by Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx in an
attempt to delegitimize the existing economic structure.
There is in fact no "system" or "ideology" known as "capitalism."
Instead, it's just the word we use to describe how economic relationship
naturally evolve in the absence of artificial rules imposed by force.
I usually try to say "the free market" when referring to what is called "capitalism." It's a good suggestion that will stick in the brains of the weak when repeated often enough.
Make that tendency to blindly accept suggestions work for good as much as possible.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
----
And into medical insurance partnering with JPMorgan Chase
No lie.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (akHM/)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - last single man standing on Valentine's Day?? at February 14, 2019 01:27 PM (8ov+p)
*
I admire your lifestyle.
Cut, Jib, Letter
Posted by: dananjcon at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (xqfqx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (tGvsw)
And, just to feed everyone's fears, Amazon is indeed looking into banking.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
----
And into medical insurance partnering with JPMorgan Chase
No lie.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (akHM/)
Sigh, and we used to worry about the Phone Company, or Coca Cola.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (37IEG)
It's closer to fascism than anything else, but it's used interchangeably with capitalism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:34 PM (XSSCs)
...
Yeah.
If we were willing to cede the term capitalism and define it as corporatism, I think we would have an easier time explaining to the masses what we favor and why.
I just constantly ask my kids why someone else should have an opinion or regulatory control if I agree of my own volition to enter into an exchange of goods or services with another entity. That covers everything from trading my labor to purchasing goods.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (yL25O)
*scurries away
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:28 PM (d7Ww2)
Oh I'm not done with you yet.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (NWiLs)
You two going to bang already, or do the rest of us have to watch you Ross and Rachel for a couple of years?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 01:33 PM (KUaJL)
Can we watch either way?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - last single man standing on Valentine's Day?? at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (8ov+p)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
----
And into medical insurance partnering with JPMorgan Chase
No lie.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 14, 2019 01:37 PM (akHM/)
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They're the next corporation to rule the world, right after IBM and then Wal-Mart.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (XSSCs)
I'm still not sure that Amazon was ever really that interested in NYC...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (6qErC)
or who gave him the orders to do that? Can we get the minutes for the CFR meetings where all the real decisions are made for US?
Posted by: illiniwek at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (VpIIl)
What happened to the Jews?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: Chris M at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (eAZVt)
Posted by: Toni at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (ppbIJ)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:29 PM (13CQC)
For the IT and Automation guys.
Not for the order pickers and box packers.
They'll make $13/hr at best.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: andycanuck at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (13CQC)
Dem politicians. DeBlasio and Cuomo were for it, for obvious reasons.
But lots of minor D politicians (including AOC) were super against giving "billions" to Amazon (even though it was more of a ... "we won't tax you as much as we otherwise would" kind of giveaway).
Unions were against it because Amazon isn't unionized.
The local Queens politicians were against it because it would make Long Island City rents go way up and drive out poorer people.
I think Amazon just said "fuck it." They probably did not anticipate the amount of opposition from the left they'd get if they moved to NYC.
Most places in the country would be ecstatic to get a company like Amazon moving in, spending billions of dollars on buildings, and attracting 25,000 young people making an average of $150,000 a year.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (GBteo)
It's absolutely frightening that OCrazy-Eyes is already being given such deference and handed the keys to the throne.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (UnA8+)
I kept saying if we gave this broad all this attention we were going to end up with her for president one day. Mark my words.
Posted by: Defenestratus at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (kI/3T)
or who gave him the orders to do that?
1) Fredo
2) That scrunt AG
3) An admin out of control and incomptent
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously
----
Ah, and they say romance is dead.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (akHM/)
I mean there are apparently no anti-trust issues ever with these new internet monopolies ...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 14, 2019 01:20 PM (Cus5s)
I'm ok with this. That's how Kirkland, WA got its start and other towns too, I'm sure.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
Companies towns are fascinating. Another example (very little-known) is Scotia, in far northern California, which started out as a strict self-contained company town owned by the Pacific Lumber Company. Workers were paid in scrip that could only be spent at the company store. Kids were born there and grew up and never left. Almost like a independent nation-state.
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (c+2jX)
Atari was still there, amongst others (including the CCCP).
Just highlighted to me the absurdity of all of these crazy fantasies that corporations will ever rule the world.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (XSSCs)
I couldn't help it.....
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (d7Ww2)
I do not tolerate excuses.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (c+2jX)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (Rarvo)
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM (c+2jX)
They steal words from us all the time. I don't mind taking one of theirs and turning it into a positive.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (oVJmc)
There must have been some teeth behind those objections.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (13CQC)
You can say that without thinking of Donkey Chompers Cortez?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (37IEG)
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What could she do besides make noise? The deal was made by New York State.
I'm still tryna find out why Amazon walked. Big company like that just walk away because of "objections"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (13CQC)
You underestimate them. They are really that dumb.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (Rarvo)
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (c+2jX)
...
Bethlehem, PA
Posted by: TexasDan at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously
lol
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (NLLmE)
Rumor has it they have plans.
But no pictures, yet.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 01:41 PM (sy5kK)
Not for the order pickers and box packers.
They'll make $13/hr at best.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:38 PM (UnA8+)
Yeah, I don't think anyone at the proposed long island city location, other than the janitors and whatnot were going to be low-level employees.
As Amazon explained it when they began their hunt for HQ2, it's all high paying back end jobs. I would imagine that nearly every one of those 25,000 jobs would have gone to people with bachelors degrees if not higher.
You know, the kind of jobs we want to create.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:41 PM (GBteo)
Go and READ the actual 25th Amendment, which it amazes me that almost no one, starting with McCabe, has ever bothered to do.
If the Veep and officers vote to remove him, BUT the President sends a letter to Congress saying that he IS fit and intends to remain in office, then he can ONLY be removed by a 2/3 majority vote in EACH House of Congress.
That's why I say, it's actually HARDER to do than Impeachment.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:41 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (Rarvo)
Supposedly Harrisburg (South Central PA) was on the short list at one point, but was one of the first candidates to be knocked off.
Keep Bezos out.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:41 PM (UnA8+)
He best go run and hide
Daddy's got a new .45
And I won't think twice to stick that barrel
Straight down Paolo's throat
Believe me when I say that I got something for his punk ass
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:41 PM (NWiLs)
betcha Amazon ends up here (SE PA)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM
Neighbor. You getting offers to buy your house from some investment firm, too? Lately they've been getting insane.
Posted by: Newest Nic - Notorious Liar at February 14, 2019 01:42 PM (jYje5)
I'm still tryna find out why Amazon walked. Big company like that just walk away because of "objections"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (13CQC)
...
I'm thinking that the recent run-ins they have had with the city of Seattle have probably really altered their willingness to put up with local "color".
Posted by: TexasDan at February 14, 2019 01:42 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (GBteo)
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A suburb just NW of the Atl. airport was willing to give them a third of their land and call it Amazon. They would have setup their infrastructure for them and everything.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 01:42 PM (ffYR/)
Bezos is committed to Bezos. Everything else is just coincidence.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 01:42 PM (sy5kK)
It's absolutely frightening that OCrazy-Eyes is already being given such deference and handed the keys to the throne.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:14 PM (UnA8+)
Add that to the interrogation someone obviousely prepared for Ilhan Omar and her being appointed to the House Foreign Affairs Committee and then throw in all the other oddities newly elected to the House and it all seems scarily orchestrated and agenda driven. It feels like a mapped-out plan of destruction.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 14, 2019 01:42 PM (9Ni3Z)
I was at TxDOT in the 80's when Reagan was selecting military bases to close. Gov. Ann Richards took a broadside when she and her cronies bought land all around Manor for the proposed new Austin municipal airport. From our perch in Houston while reviewing schematics for all the roads that would serve the airport we found her fingerprints all over the land deals.
Then Reagan or Bush Sr. closed Bergstrom. Then George Jr beat her for governor. She got left holding the bag.
Posted by: DanMan at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (XTiHL)
Most places in the country would be ecstatic to get a company like
Amazon moving in, spending billions of dollars on buildings, and
attracting 25,000 young people making an average of $150,000 a year.
Maybe our new guvnor will try to get them to set up shop down here. The weather's a lot nicer, no unions, no overregulation.
Good recipes for gator. Cold beer out on a lake. Great fishing. Beautiful young ladies in bikinis during the summer.
Palm trees.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (HaL55)
There must have been some teeth behind those objections.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:35 PM (13CQC)
You can say that without thinking of Donkey Chompers Cortez?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (37IEG)
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What could she do besides make noise? The deal was made by New York State.
I'm still tryna find out why Amazon walked. Big company like that just walk away because of "objections"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (13CQC)
Amazon came to halting construction on a half dozen skyscrapers in Seattle when the local commies tried to exort them for an 'employee tax'.
Money is portable. Money that does most of its fulfillment via wide-distributed warehouses is very portable.
NYC is literally not worth the hassle when other places are offering comparable deals. Now, like Kate Upton getting a divorce, they have options.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (2DOZq)
My .02 (so there) is that this was negotiation. Bozo got NY/NYC to kowtow w/dollar figures and then shopped that around the world (here's what NYC will do - what can you do?) until they had the next steps sorted out, and will use that the next time they're shopping for sites...
Of course, one could then say that Bozo has poisoned the well a bit, but hey, "city fathers" aren't known for their ... perceptiveness.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (6qErC)
A suburb just NW of the Atl. airport was willing to give them a third of their land and call it Amazon. They would have setup their infrastructure for them and everything.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 01:42 PM (ffYR/)
which is why the Atlanta area was a finalist.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (sy5kK)
With my IT background, I could be a Kapo.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (yQpMk)
You din't think we'd let a feeder line like that go by, did you?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (yQpMk)
But no pictures, yet.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 01:41 PM (sy5kK)
Rumor has it Gal Gadot has the hots for me, but all that got me was this restraining order.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (KUaJL)
I think Amazon just said "fuck it."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (GBteo
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Hah. Cuomo must be grinding his teeth over the stupidity of virtually ever leftist special interest group in his state.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:31 PM
Neither is the Paolo. Please to be patient.
Posted by: Paolo at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (p+Wdc)
Happy Valentine's Day everybody!
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at February 14, 2019 01:44 PM (WaWnz)
Posted by: Bruce at February 14, 2019 01:36 PM (VWiVo)
I'm not that big of a fan of Rush but I had him on the car radio when it was announced, particularly because it was rejected on the first cut. I almost drove off the road from laughing so hard at him singing "Barack Hussein Obama mmmm mmmm mmm".
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2019 01:44 PM (y7DUB)
You din't think we'd let a feeder line like that go by, did you?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (p+Wdc)
Course not. Things just wouldn't be right otherwise.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:44 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (bcbK
Wait! Wut???
Posted by: every guy with a dream at February 14, 2019 01:44 PM (sy5kK)
He best go run and hide
Daddy's got a new .45
And I won't think twice to stick that barrel
Straight down Paolo's throat
Believe me when I say that I got something for his punk ass
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 01:41 PM (NWiLs)
*holds lighter up*
I'm rooting for you crazy kids. And for your .45.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:44 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (Rarvo)
Oh God, as if traffic here isn't bad enough. Try to imagine 25,000 Amazon types hitting Montgomery or Bucks all at the same time on any given work day.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (RD7QR)
They do the "tax incentive" thing here all the time, doling out breaks to this company or that, to the film industry, to big data... but why not just have a *good* deal for every company?
Is it about having the power to pick and choose, to hand out favors?
Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (BD/yx)
Personally I hope more and more people vote with their feet and leave this State with its high taxes and hostility to the 2nd Amendment.I myself cannot do this as my job is located is in the financial industry and my skill set pretty much keeps me here. Besides, where else would I go, New Jersey? Connecticut? LOL LOL LOL
That is my 2 cents.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (Oq/TM)
Of course, one could then say that Bozo has poisoned the well a bit, but hey, "city fathers" aren't known for their ... perceptiveness.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (6qErC)
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Could be like the Olympics.
Everyone knows that it's a terrible investment with massive cost overruns, just the best corruption money can buy, and no real return, and yet cities still fall all over themselves to get the next one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (XSSCs)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 14, 2019 01:42 PM (9Ni3Z)
"Are you proud of the Genocide you were a part of? YES OR NO!!!!"
"I---"
"YES OR NO!!!!"
"No."
"I'll take that as a Yes."
Pure evil.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (UnA8+)
THAT is a heartwarming story! Thank you!
heh heh heh
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (Rarvo)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 01:42 PM (ffYR/)
I don't think they have the talent pipeline in Atlanta.
It's not easy finding a place where you can find 25,000 highly educated and qualified people.
From what I heard at least, the cities Amazon were considering were Boston, New York, and Austin.
But they wanted it to be on the east coast, so I think the short list was Boston and New York.
Boston does not have great public transportation and has a chronic housing shortage as it is.
New York is a much bigger city, and Long Island City is not as built up as, say, Manhattan, so there is plenty of room to expand there. Plus public transportation in NYC is the most extensive public transportation in the country... you don't need to own a car there, as you do in, say, Boston.
NYC made a lot of sense.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (bcbK
Wait! Wut???
Posted by: every guy with a dream at February 14, 2019 01:44 PM (sy5kK)
Calm down, just making a comparison. So far Justin still got that pussy on lock.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (sGtp+)
Amazon moving in, spending billions of dollars on buildings, and
attracting 25,000 young people making an average of $150,000 a year.
Maybe our new guvnor will try to get them to set up shop down here. The weather's a lot nicer, no unions, no overregulation.
Good recipes for gator. Cold beer out on a lake. Great fishing. Beautiful young ladies in bikinis during the summer.
Palm trees.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (HaL55)
You'd be getting 24,999 new Democrat votes out of that deal.
Posted by: Liberty at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (aMifl)
What could she do besides make noise? The deal was made by New York State.
I'm still tryna find out why Amazon walked. Big company like that just walk away because of "objections"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:40 PM (13CQC)
I was being literal
Girl has a set of teeth.
But New York has consistently demonstrated a trend towards "we're really pretty fucking stupid" when it comes to elected and appointed officials.
So I see no reason to think some of their brighter stars, with more power than DonkeyChomps has yet, are in this game up to their stupid necks.
Chuckles Schumer comes to mind too.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:46 PM (37IEG)
oh no I agree
it would suck
but if there's anywhere that has a high concentration of H1Bs already, it's here (and NJ and DE). It will be somewhere in the Tri State Area is my wager.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 01:47 PM (Rarvo)
Oh, God, the Olympics. Every city that hosts one (IIRC) ends up in massive debt and gets other issues.
For some suburbs and surrounding communities, maybe it's a win for them, and maaaaaaaybe for the state/province/region/country as a whole, but generally? Nah.
I'm sure there's a way to do it right-- there have to be a few cities/areas that *could* do it right-- but in addition to all the "normal" issues there's a lot of graft and corruption, so it's one of those things that almost *can't* work.
Possibly if a host city re-hosts (maybe not the next one, but the one after?), but even then, I dunno.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 14, 2019 01:47 PM (84QUd)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (yQpMk)
That's exactly what all the IT commies I've encountered have said, heh.
That they expect to be given some level of authority over the plebes because they're IT.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:47 PM (UnA8+)
Amazon moving in, spending billions of dollars on buildings, and
attracting 25,000 young people making an average of $150,000 a year.
Maybe our new guvnor will try to get them to set up shop down here. The weather's a lot nicer, no unions, no overregulation.
Good recipes for gator. Cold beer out on a lake. Great fishing. Beautiful young ladies in bikinis during the summer.
Palm trees.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (HaL55)
Why are you all welcoming the thought of a plague of leftists descending like locusts on your state?
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:48 PM (AmZyC)
Possibly if a host city re-hosts (maybe not the next one, but the one after?), but even then, I dunno.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 14, 2019 01:47 PM (84QUd)
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If I remember correctly, even the ones that do re-host end up needing to rebuild most of what they have.
It's part of the graft inherent in the system.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:48 PM (XSSCs)
NYC made a lot of sense.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:45 PM (GBteo)
....
Austin: Apple announced their $1B campus here; Google just took most of a large building downtown.
Traffic is unfixable.
I can't imagine the competition they would face for 25,000 workers here.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 14, 2019 01:48 PM (yL25O)
That they expect to be given some level of authority over the plebes because they're IT.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:47 PM (UnA8+)
The IT people make your computer update on time.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 01:48 PM (KUaJL)
That they expect to be given some level of authority over the plebes because they're IT.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:47 PM (UnA8+)
Bwaahahahahah - most of the ones I've met would shit themselves at the first sign of someone willing to get physical with them.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:48 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (13CQC)
Yeah, no shit.
There was nothing but upside for NYC.
Turning NYC in to the east coast silicon valley could have really helped the state with their looming fiscal disaster, too.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:48 PM (GBteo)
NYC is literally not worth the hassle
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (bcbK8
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Now I'm laughing even harder. Cuomo lies down with lefties, wakes up and Amazon flees. He's looking around the bedroom at all these fat, hungover, tobacco-stained fucks who chased off Prince Charming.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:49 PM (13CQC)
Ah, so the opposition was growing.
That meant legal fees and lawsuits and all that from the left nutjobs. That is probably what pushed them to move on from NY. It had to come down to dollars.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:49 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (MIKMs)
384 With my IT background, I could be a Kapo.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 14, 2019 01:43 PM (yQpMk)
That's exactly what all the IT commies I've encountered have said, heh.
That they expect to be given some level of authority over the plebes because they're IT.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:47 PM (UnA8+)
Working in IT as well, I've been quoted as saying "Never piss off your IT guys. You do want to get a CORRECT paycheck this week, right?". Not to mention that your browsing history belongs to us.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:48 PM (GBteo)
I was always under the impression that Orlando was supposed to be Silicon Valley East.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (Kpl3J)
Texas is doing better than almost every state but we are not that successful where we should turn down such business opportunities.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (2DOZq)
wsj
uphill battle
lawsuits
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (OKeCc)
*queue ominous sounding music*
Posted by: Homer Simpson at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (BDZWU)
Bloomberg "news" just put up a tweet from Donkey Chompers, the people of New York defeated corporate greed. I'll bet Cuomo and DeBolshevic just love her now
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (OLCnA)
I was always under the impression that Orlando was supposed to be Silicon Valley East.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (UnA8+)
I thought 495 in Massachusetts was Silicon Valley East. (bwaahahahahahahaha, thank you Mike DuTaxus!"
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (37IEG)
NOPE.
It's crony socialism.
Under a free market system, cronyism is an abuse.
Under socialism, it's standard procedure, even essential.
This is true regardless of who technically owns property, i.e., it's true of both corporatism/Fascism and of Marxism.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (Rxduq)
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (UnA8+)
Not if I say no.
Posted by: Disney at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (jxbfJ)
The lead IT guy in my building is permanently pissed off (well more sneeringly disdainful) at everybody else, so...
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (UnA8+)
Amazon stop its search for another headquarters spot. The company decided to add more more "jobs at its other headquarters location in Northern Virginia, as well as offices in Nashville and other tech hubs around the country."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (OKeCc)
eh, Orlando is a mickey mouse kind of place to base a business.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 01:52 PM (Kpl3J)
I was always under the impression that Orlando was supposed to be Silicon Valley East.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (UnA8+)
I thought 495 in Massachusetts was Silicon Valley East. (bwaahahahahahahaha, thank you Mike DuTaxus!"
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (37IEG)
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Charleston wants to be Silicon Harbor.
We've got a few tech companies, but we're never going to grow that large.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:52 PM (XSSCs)
That's my feeling. Maybe in another five years they will start another search.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 14, 2019 01:52 PM (2DOZq)
-
Calculus? Geometry? Opera?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 01:52 PM (+y/Ru)
I was being literal
Girl has a set of teeth.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:46 PM (37IEG
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OH, dammit!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 01:52 PM (13CQC)
Why not have them in repeat cities? All the facilities have been built already and most would only need repairs. If the Winter Olympics are in the US why not just have them in Lake Placid each time?
Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at February 14, 2019 01:52 PM (BD/yx)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:49 PM (OKeCc)
Well, if I were Amazon, I'd just be pissed.
They're saying "hey, we're going to create 25,000 high paying jobs, spend billions on a building, and invest substantially in your city." and instead of everyone cheering and being excited, a large and vocal minority of people said "FUCK YOU! WE DONT WANT YOU!" and hinted at making their lives miserable with boycotts and union thugs holding signs in the street and media cameras interviewing little old ladies who were worried that Amazon coming to town would raise their rent...
And Amazon said, "uhh... seriously? Well, okay then. Idiots."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:52 PM (GBteo)
Instead, it's just the word we use to describe how economic relationship
naturally evolve in the absence of artificial rules imposed by force."
right, mostly, but whatever we call it "free market" ... it happens best under a system of liberty. So there are a lot of "artificial" rules (good law, built on the constitutional intent) ... lots of laws needed to protect liberty, which allow an economy to function properly.
Once we cross borders, a cost must be added if we value the society we have built, and don't wish to "freely trade" it away to commies and slave holders and polluters.
anyway, I think "absence of artificial rules" in that definition might be better stated as "in a society of established fair laws and regulations" ... because without that, most traditional "free trade" concepts don't function.
Corporatism and globalism have both overruled those laws intended for the people. But I also like to say, even the communists use principles of "capitalism", but they treat their "human resources" as raw capital, and manage it as if they are its owner.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (Cus5s)
legal insurrection has a good rundown
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (d7Ww2)
Before there was a Silicon Valley there was Rte 128 in Mass.
That got chased away too.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (RD7QR)
IT guys. You do want to get a CORRECT paycheck this week, right?". Not
to mention that your browsing history belongs to us.
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Just like the DOJ/FBI/etc.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (nPGq2)
Why not have them in repeat cities? All the facilities have been built already and most would only need repairs. If the Winter Olympics are in the US why not just have them in Lake Placid each time?
Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at February 14, 2019 01:52 PM (BD/yx)
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Because the Olympic organization is hugely corrupt and can't skim nearly as much money off the top if they're just reusing the same facilities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (XSSCs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 01:54 PM (bim/x)
Why are you all welcoming the thought of a plague of leftists descending like locusts on your state?
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 14, 2019 01:48 PM (AmZyC)
I'm wondering the same thing. Keep them far away from me.
Posted by: rickl at February 14, 2019 01:54 PM (xjiRE)
417 Working in IT as well, I've been quoted as saying "Never piss off
your IT guys. You do want to get a CORRECT paycheck this week, right?".
Not to mention that your browsing history belongs to us.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 14, 2019 01:50 PM (jxbfJ)
The lead IT guy in my building is permanently pissed off (well more sneeringly disdainful) at everybody else, so...
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (UnA8+)
I'm generally not that way. Gotta be nice if I want my projects approved. But there is that handful of users who, when they call, make me cringe. Stupidity knows no bounds.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 14, 2019 01:54 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Augustine at February 14, 2019 01:54 PM (BDZWU)
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (RD7QR)
But you've basically got a permanent room in the halls of Congress.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:54 PM (UnA8+)
Traffic is unfixable.
I can't imagine the competition they would face for 25,000 workers here.
Posted by: TexasDan
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^^^^
what he said!
Posted by: lin-duh at February 14, 2019 01:54 PM (kufk0)
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Whoa! He musta been a sex machine to all the chicks to need is own plantation!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 01:55 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (UnA8+)
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At a place I used to work, the one IT guy we had always looked like he was about to go Postal.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 01:55 PM (ffYR/)
Eric Benaim, the CEO of Long Island based brokerage Modern Spaces, told Forbes NYC would make a mistake saying no to Amazon:
"By saying no to Amazon, New York City is essentially saying 'no' to any company that would consider coming to the city to do business," Benaim said. "If we, as a city, reject this deal, we will send the message that New York City is closed for business."
Benaim has been a resident of Long Island City since 2006 and calls himself an "ambassador" for the city.
"If the Amazon deal falls through, it not only effects Long Island City but also New York City as a whole," Benaim said. "Other businesses won't be attracted to the area because they will know NYC kicked out the biggest company and rejected the biggest economic impact in the history of the state."
not to mention people are fleeing NY
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:55 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (37IEG)
128 corridor, but yeah.
It was. Back in the '70s and '80s.
I read an interesting law review article a while back that posited that the reason CA blew up and 128 corridor did not is because CA does not enforce non-compete agreements and MA does. And without the ability of highly talented people to jump around and switch jobs easily, the talent pool kind of stagnated, and people decided to move to CA, since many in MA were under non-competes that prohibited them for working in technology in MA for a year after they left their job.
I thought it was an interesting take.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:55 PM (GBteo)
That got chased away too.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM
Yep. Past tense. They keep fantasizing about it, though.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 14, 2019 01:55 PM (p+Wdc)
Before there was a Silicon Valley there was Rte 128 in Mass.
That got chased away too.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 01:53 PM (/tuJf)
DEC, Wang, Apollo, Data General, Prime. POOF.Massachusetts Miracle becomes Massachusetts mirage.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:56 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I LIKE it!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at February 14, 2019 01:56 PM (kufk0)
Traffic is unfixable.
I can't imagine the competition they would face for 25,000 workers here.
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Donkey Chompers Barbie is going to fix that.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 01:56 PM (+y/Ru)
Bloomberg "news" just put up a tweet from Donkey Chompers, the people of New York defeated corporate greed. I'll bet Cuomo and DeBolshevic just love her now
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2019 01:51 PM (OLCnA)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 01:56 PM (Rxduq)
buh bye
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 01:56 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 01:57 PM (r+sAi)
IBM, Nixdorf and a host of others as well.
Talk about killing the Golden Goose.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 01:57 PM (/tuJf)
fav narcissus limerick -
there once was a man named narcissus
who everyone thought was a sissus
we can't really know
which way he did go
but he never spent time with the missus!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 14, 2019 01:57 PM (Pg+x7)
now i has the sadzz. and i feel old.
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 01:58 PM (sGtp+)
I thought it was an interesting take.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 01:55 PM (GBteo)
Working at EDS as I did once, we had non-competes. But everyone who had a clue understood it was practically unenforceable in Texas because of the right to work laws. However, we did employ lots of young and out of state people who didn't really understand that 2nd part, and tied themselves down.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:58 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 14, 2019 01:58 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 01:57 PM (r+sAi)
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My memory is getting better the farther away in time I am. You are going to love what I recall about the horrid race/homo hate crime next week.
Posted by: Jussie Smollett at February 14, 2019 01:59 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 01:57 PM (r+sAi)
Okay, there was no bleach but there was a mild abrasive. It was horrifying! [sobs]
Posted by: Jussie "Juicy" Smollett at February 14, 2019 01:59 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I LIKE it!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at February 14, 2019 01:56 PM (kufk0)
That is brilliant.
Posted by: rickl at February 14, 2019 01:59 PM (xjiRE)
now i has the sadzz. and i feel old.
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 01:58 PM (sGtp+)
Dude - sorry to say it, but if you recognize those machines you kinda, uh, ARE old
You're in good company though.
Well, me, maybe not.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 02:00 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Yeah, but imagine being in a department in California and having to go to a meeting in Texas!
Posted by: Jussie at February 14, 2019 02:01 PM (RD7QR)
Why are you all welcoming the thought of a plague of leftists descending like locusts on your state?
Reason Numero Uno is that they like music and their money is just as green as everyone else's, so I might possibly get more gigs. I only have a few years of playing left in me, so I need to make monetary hay while the sun shines.
Reason Numero Dos Equis is that there's a good opportunity to deprogram them. This place is pretty purple already, Orange Co voted for Her Heinous and Seminole Co went for Trump. It's a long process, but it can be done because I've done it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 14, 2019 02:01 PM (HaL55)
Ha ha, that Smollett dude changed his story again. No cracked ribs or bleach this time.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 01:57 PM (r+sAi)
First rule, don't base your story of being attacked by random strangers out at o dark thirty on the coldest friggin night of the last 30 years.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 02:01 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: DanMan at February 14, 2019 02:02 PM (XTiHL)
Working at EDS as I did once, we had non-competes. But everyone who had a clue understood it was practically unenforceable in Texas because of the right to work laws. However, we did employ lots of young and out of state people who didn't really understand that 2nd part, and tied themselves down.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 01:58 PM (37IEG)
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In GA, we are also right to work. The smarter employers use non disclosures instead of non competes, as those can be much more easily enforced.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 02:02 PM (ffYR/)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 02:03 PM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Jussie
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Teleconference...duh!
Posted by: lin-duh at February 14, 2019 02:03 PM (kufk0)
Politics
Half-Human, Half-Robot Justice Enters Supreme Court, Introduces Self As Ruth Bader Gins-Borg
Photo at link.
https://bit.ly/2GEoThP
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 02:03 PM (+y/Ru)
Ha ha, that Smollett dude changed his story again. No cracked ribs or bleach this time.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
__________________
Racist!
Posted by: Juicy Fruit Small-ette at February 14, 2019 02:05 PM (GEhPL)
In GA, we are also right to work. The smarter
employers use non disclosures instead of non competes, as those can be
much more easily enforced.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 02:02 PM (ffYR/)
We had those. But EDS did so many lines of business, that was almost unenforceable too. I wasn't mad when I left, so I didn't try to screw with that. And I was (am) very machine specific and none of my old bosses would have tried to enforce anything. The Tandem fraternity was protection from that because the rest of the corporation was Big Blue and Big Blue lookalikes.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 14, 2019 02:06 PM (37IEG)
Bezos is into kink I hear.
Posted by: torabora at February 14, 2019 01:12 PM (Y274z
"Must a command be repeated?" Slaps five-bladed Gorean slave whip against thigh.
Posted by: Bowl of Port Kar at February 14, 2019 02:07 PM (5FQVt)
Posted by: Sock monkey at February 14, 2019 02:09 PM (SLTeJ)
Posted by: DanMan at February 14, 2019 02:02 PM (XTiHL
Bethpage, out on Long Island.
Posted by: Fox2! at February 14, 2019 02:09 PM (5FQVt)
That said, AOC's criticisms were more about wanting to subversively coerce Amazon to subscribe to and pay for their social programs in order to bolster their political power over Amazon's management decision-making and to thereby recruit support for their socialist program.
Amazon evidently didn't like where this was heading, seeing these folks acting like a 21st century "Mob" trying to muscle in, starting with its demands for "protection money".
Posted by: civil truth at February 14, 2019 02:18 PM (BDZwF)
Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at February 14, 2019 02:26 PM (vI+F1)
Posted by: BluesFish at February 14, 2019 02:36 PM (YjGF5)
Posted by: zombie at February 14, 2019 01:39 PM (c+2jX)
Resource-extraction companies pretty much have to build company towns, because the resources they extract are often found in the middle of nowhere.
Read up on Tumbler Ridge, B.C. It is one weird place. Built to house workers at a huge metallurgical coal mine. Whole downtown was "architect-designed" and it has this really weird Potemkin village vibe. Then the mine closed down, and you could have bought a nice 3-bedroom home there for a couple of thousand bucks. I should have done it. Mine opened back up, and now homes there are north of hundred grand.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 14, 2019 02:37 PM (nPGq2)
Posted by: Giovanni's philosophy and Pasta House at February 14, 2019 02:45 PM (VRIVk)
Luddite Libtards win again.
Posted by: HULUGU at February 14, 2019 02:52 PM (VSm85)
On the one hand you have an elitist super-Lefty, Bezos. Loves to climb on board with all the Leftist crap - even donates heavily to their causes, I'm sure. Pats himself on the back for condemning "income inequality" and "evil corporations" - even though he's the prime example.
But those Lefties are inherently ANTI-BUSINESS. Even all those "incentives" (bribes) are so that they can lure you into their air, and milk you like a cow.
You REALLY wanted to go to NYC, Mr Bezos, because you know it's rife with "elightened", "educated", and "cultured" people like yourself - you'd feel right at home.
But they're "educated" with SOCIALISM, and their "culture" is all about how corporations like YOU are EVIL, dipshit. They're a MOB, and they have their site on YOU, your power and your money.
You FEED the monster for YEARS, then act surprised when it prematurely starts biting you? TOO FUNNY!!
Posted by: Optimizer at February 14, 2019 02:53 PM (hOOi9)
Veto this piece of shit, Mr. President.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 14, 2019 02:56 PM (o0D4q)
Posted by: SMOD at February 14, 2019 12:55 PM (QkjLD)
HE HASN'T WON YET!!!!
Posted by: Alexandria Obviously-Braindead at February 14, 2019 01:00 PM (8ov+p)
HA!HA! I haven't voted yet!
Posted by: t fna tl; fna tl;dr at February 14, 2019 02:58 PM (RCnU/)
Veto this piece of shit, Mr. President.
Oh, wow.
I was thinking, "Take the money, and STILL declare an emergency, and use other pots of money too".
But if this is true, it's really legislation to specifically STOP the wall, not just an insulting pittance. No can do!
That's why he said, "I'll have to read it first". He knows how these slimeballs work.
Posted by: Optimizer at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (hOOi9)
BNL NEWS
@BreakingNLive
BREAKING NEWS: Sources close to President Trump now say the President won't sign funding bill, which would give him $1.3 billion for border barrier and avoid a second shutdown.
Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: DanMan at February 14, 2019 02:02 PM (XTiHL
Bethpage, out on Long Island.
Posted by: Fox2! at February 14, 2019 02:09 PM (5FQVt)
I interviewed in the '70s for a computer company out on Long Island. Told them I was not working for a company stupid enough to locate in the middle of union and social corruption. Company long gone. RIP
Posted by: t fna tl; fna tl;dr at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (RCnU/)
Posted by: Joe Walker at February 14, 2019 03:33 PM (S+i5q)
I am of two minds about this transformation.
Amazon's growth obliterated my life long understanding of Seattle in a time frame that felt like overnight. Further this transformation became the end game that profoundly shifted the population from something approximating a left leaning, middle class to one comprised of 20 and 30 something singles whose politics were to the left of normal but to the right of the insanity of that now rules over Seattle. The economic change this brought was profound and made life for the lifelong Marxists there difficult.
On the other hand, I viewed this as exactly what happens when a free people are allowed to engage in the pursuit of wealth and happiness. For all the carping about Amazon, what I saw was company create vast wealth for its employees and shareholders, a view I find laudable, though its local effects were to my detriment because it drove real estate and rent prices crazy.
These two things eventually drove me out the city. In first case the Marxist reaction to all this brought on was exhausting, there is only so much protesting, using government taxation as a weapon to attack a company for socialist reasons, and a cultural attitude that unless you were willing to spit on Republicans that you needed to die.
Secondly, these new costs made it clear that staying was a losing game. In response I went looking for new digs and ended up in flyover country where I found a perfectly lovely place to live, became a home owner again, and can now to live quite large on money that would have sent into bankruptcy if I had stayed.
Such is life. Such is change. It happens and it is normal.
In the case of the New York Amazon headquarters one thing is clear, that the Blasio and Cuomo are worth shit when it comes to negotiating a deal. Frankly they gave up the farm and all the sheep.
Subsidies are not inherently bad if in the end they give economic life where there is none or it is on life support. A case in point is how Alabama has been economically transformed by auto manufacturing and all the coat tail business that came with that.
Plan and simple, the same Marxist/Socialist shits that relentlessly attacked Amazon in Seattle are the same crowd that queered the NY deal and for the same reasons. These people ultimately would have benefitted from Amazon being in the city and all the coat tail economic changes that would soon come. Too, they would have benefitted from the new taxes that could have paid for schools and infrastructure.
Instead these idiots, sacrificed all this for what? The principles that underly the New Green Deal or the Marxist mirage of everything will be fair.
Instead of attacking Amazon the idiots would have better served by calling for Blasio and Cuomo to their hung by their political necks for giving up farm and sheep when they could have had this for a goat and pig.
Suck it New York. You got exactly what you deserve. Enjoy it.
God save us from the Selfie Generation.
Posted by: AntiMarxProLennon at February 14, 2019 05:51 PM (O3UQk)
ADC and the state/local governments of NY deserve each other.
Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at February 14, 2019 07:18 PM (Oj4EX)
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