Yay!!! Andrew Cuomo's Pro-Infanticide Abortion Law Spares a Murderer an Additional Charge of Also Killing His Girlfriend's Unborn Baby

The second charge was not for murder; New York law, I guess, never allowed for that.

But they did have a law against "second-degree [unlawful] abortion," a law violated by this guy when he deliberately murdered his pregnant girlfriend.

But that charge has been dropped now, because New York no longer has any laws against abortion at all, even inflicting one on a completely unwilling party.

Queens District Attorney Richard Brown sent out a press release saying Anthony Hobson, 48, would be charged with second-degree abortion as well as murder in Sunday’s fatal stabbing of Jennifer Irigoyen, 35.

But a DA spokeswoman later told The Post that the abortion charge "was repealed by the Legislature, and this is the law as it exists today."

...

It faced fierce opposition, with the New York State Catholic Conference warning that it "removes accountability for those who would harm unborn children outside the context of medical termination of pregnancy."

Cuomo's office did not comment on the murder case.

I'll bet.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:15 PM




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1 well he sure dodged a bullet on that one!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 11, 2019 05:11 PM (GBteo)

2 I shall summon the others.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 11, 2019 05:11 PM (GBteo)

3 Littering.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 11, 2019 05:11 PM (Ndje9)

4 Just. As. Planned.

Posted by: Max Power at February 11, 2019 05:11 PM (q177U)

5 It's open season on babies in NY!

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:12 PM (BXMxN)

6 Get back to me when the Catholic Church excommunicates him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 05:13 PM (ptqGC)

7 >>>Cuomo's office did not comment on the murder case.

Which one? Pretty soon it's going to be hard to keep track.

Posted by: Max Power at February 11, 2019 05:13 PM (q177U)

8 Evil shitbags.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:13 PM (NWiLs)

9 Cuomo.. there's a special place in Hell for you.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (dUJdY)

10 This has always been a fatal (no pun intended) problem for the pro-LTA people. If a person isn't a person, how can someone be charged with murder.

Naturally, the press never asks the question. How about it Jake?

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (T6t7i)

11 Evil shitbags.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:13 PM (NWiLs)

It's a point of pride to them.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (RSrzo)

12 I hate these people.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (0tfLf)

13 Margaret Sanger would be so proud. If NY has another terrorist attack, I am going to have a hard time shedding a tear. I don't wish for it to happen but what they are doing is monstrous.

VA Governor is a doctor? I guess he was out the day that they recited the Hippocratic Oath.

Posted by: Cheri at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (oiNtH)

14 They're killing Babies, but they're doing the weekend with RBG...

I'm going to turn into the skeleton on the milk carton before I get Proof of Life on RuthBaderGainsburger.

Maybe they're going full Re-Animator on her?

Posted by: USMC 8541 at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (NmR1a)

15 Cannot...wait...for...the..rally...tonight!

Posted by: Tuna at February 11, 2019 05:15 PM (jm1YL)

16 If I were an attorney in NY, I'd wait for the very next case of a mother murdering her minor child (even if the kid is 17), and take her case pro bono. I'd demand an immediate dismissal of charges on the grounds that it's legal to kill your own clump of cells, so long as you're a woman and you feel that the clump of cells is adversely affecting your mental health.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 05:15 PM (AzW6q)

17 Cuomo.. there's a special place in Hell for you.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (dUJdY)

Yes right next to his daddy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:15 PM (bim/x)

18 How will NY tax all the rich babies if there aren't any?

Posted by: Miklos, not seeing the math here at February 11, 2019 05:15 PM (zCyNd)

19 16
If I were an attorney in NY, I'd wait for the very next case of a mother
murdering her minor child (even if the kid is 17), and take her case
pro bono. I'd demand an immediate dismissal of charges on the grounds
that it's legal to kill your own clump of cells, so long as you're a
woman and you feel that the clump of cells is adversely affecting your
mental health.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


Yup. And at what point does this privilege stop? A day? A month? When they're obnoxious teenagers? What's the principle you use to decide?

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2019 05:16 PM (T6t7i)

20 Qhomo, you are killing future NY taxpayers.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2019 05:16 PM (pw+jk)

21 Cuomo, AKA Infant Murder Douche, was going back and forth with Cardinal Dolan. He knows they don't have the balls to excommunicate him and he's mocking them.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 11, 2019 05:17 PM (IKjSy)

22 This is all to desensitize people for when state-run healthcare euthanizing anyone they deem to not be worth keeping alive.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 11, 2019 05:17 PM (QSdIk)

23 Has Andrew Cuomo been excommunicated yet?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 11, 2019 05:17 PM (aCNZ6)

24 I'm glad we're finally getting civilized.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 11, 2019 05:17 PM (RuIsu)

25 We had a case in CO where the Baby was cut out of the mother and the mother survived. The baby died. Murder charges could not be made. NY is just catching up to CO.



I hate my state a little more each day.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 11, 2019 05:17 PM (0OmEj)

26 Men in NY who are motivated to kill their pregnant partner just got a boost.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 11, 2019 05:18 PM (zmIJL)

27
If I were an attorney in NY, I'd wait for the very next case of a mother
murdering her minor child (even if the kid is 17), and take her case
pro bono. I'd demand an immediate dismissal of charges on the grounds
that it's legal to kill your own clump of cells, so long as you're a
woman and you feel that the clump of cells is adversely affecting your
mental health.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 05:15 PM (AzW6q)

Thank you!!

Posted by: Susan Smith and Andrea Yates at February 11, 2019 05:18 PM (QLvwG)

28 Watched Gosnell movie last night. It's the perfect compliment to the lunacy in New York and the comments by Northam. This law in New York sounds great to soft leftists (Women's Rights! Light up the Empire State Building pink!) but when they are confronted with the reality of late term abortion, it's not at all what they thought they were doing. In fact, it's appalling to all but the most hard core (nearly psychotic) pro-choice fanatics. What this guy is NOT being charged with now is so mild compared to what this law really allows - which Searcy did such a fine job explaining in that film.
Encourage your liberal friends to watch it. If you can get them to do so, we may yet turn such lunacy around.

Posted by: BetaPhi at February 11, 2019 05:18 PM (hGNrS)

29 *types, deletes*

Posted by: trev006 at February 11, 2019 05:18 PM (Prldh)

30 >>>>This is all to desensitize people for when state-run healthcare euthanizing anyone they deem to not be worth keeping alive.
Posted by: Surfperch at February 11, 2019 05:17 PM (QSdIk)

Well it's not binary, as Ben would say. It's a win/win.

Posted by: Max Power at February 11, 2019 05:18 PM (q177U)

31 Dude was like stoopid. Just rape her in the MOUTH bro!

Posted by: Justinthemouth Fairfax, D - Serial Rapist at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (uloIh)

32 Has Andrew Cuomo been excommunicated yet?
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 11, 2019 05:17 PM (aCNZ6)

As JOOOO, maybe I should refrain from saying this, but it appears to me the Catholic Church is gutless, especially in NY and under this Pope

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (bim/x)

33 What if the bastard had stuck a knife in his girlfriend's belly and killed the baby but not her?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (ptqGC)

34 https://twitter.com/i/status/1093970098522488833

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (4e+hS)

35 >>This is all to desensitize people for when state-run healthcare euthanizing anyone they deem to not be worth keeping alive.



Bingo!


Hell, they're already sliding from "abort a sick/defective baby in the 3rd trimester" argument to "allows parents to decide whether or not they want to spend a few hours with a sick baby before stopping life support."

It's almost like they can't help but reveal their true intentions.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (W+vEI)

36 Men in NY who are motivated to kill their pregnant partner just got a boost.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 11, 2019 05:18 PM (zmIJL)


Not the partner, just the kid. A little love shove in the belly would save a lot of child support grief.

Posted by: Miklos, seeing incentives at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (zCyNd)

37 Jane D'oh: "Get back to me when the Catholic Church excommunicates him."

This.

The Church seems decades, if not centuries, behind the curve on dumping those who do real damage to its doctrine. I wonder how it is that people of power get such kid gloves? It's a mystery.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (6eEQ+)

38 Andrew Cuomo will be judged.Well,we all will but he should really worry.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (BXMxN)

39 Killing babies is my business and business is good.

Posted by: SORT OF DAVE MUSTAINE at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (DfGpI)

40 What if the bastard had stuck a knife in his girlfriend's belly and killed the baby but not her?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (ptqGC)

An Award from Planned Parenthood

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (bim/x)

41
Qhomo, you are killing future NY taxpayers.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious


The next Demo president will restore the pillar of SALT.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (aKsyK)

42 Calls for excommunicating the governor seem a bit extreme to me.

Yeah, that's the ticket! Extreme.

Posted by: Cardinal Dolan with a Hard-On at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (hjaPQ)

43 13---VA Governor is a doctor? I guess he was out the day that they recited the Hippocratic Oath.
Posted by: Cheri at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (oiNtH)
-----------------------------
They may still have recited it at EVMC back in the 80's.
I don't know.
But I'll bet they don't now.

I can't name a single secular medical school that does have the recitation now.

I'm talking about the actual Oath of Hippocrates, not the one edited beyond all recognition.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (Rxduq)

44 The woman was 5 months pregnant.


Satan owns the DemonRat party, lock, stock and barrel.

G-d is going to rain His judgment down on this nation if we don't figure out how to end this insanity.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (2eKoI)

45 There was specific legislation that now makes killing an unborn child NOT murder.

Nice job, New York.

So if someone intentionally kills a pregnant woman's baby, they only face assault charges?

Posted by: LASue at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (XROPS)

46 As JOOOO, maybe I should refrain from saying this, but it appears to me the Catholic Church is gutless, especially in NY and under this Pope

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (bim/x)

Nah, you're right. Of course this Pope is a commie protecting pederasts, so it's not actually the worst of his problems. At least Pope Pius was staring at a machine that could devour the Vatican and centuries of history.

Posted by: trev006 at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (Prldh)

47

"New York New York, It's a wunderbar town!!!!"

- - J. Mengele and the T-4 Boys


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (/9p9e)

48 For all my failings in this fallen world, I'm pretty secure in the following statement: I've never supported the killing of kids. Of any age.

Oh, and to my Catholic brothers and sisters--time for your church to put up or shut up. This is the existential evil question of our time.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (vE2Ex)

49 Wait, so "second-degree [unlawful] abortion" no longer exists, so "second-degree abortion" is now totally legal?

So, if I were to stab a pregnant woman and kill her unborn child, I would be charged with assault with a deadly weapon but *not* for killing the baby?

That's all kinds of fucked up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 11, 2019 05:21 PM (I2dne)

50 G-d is going to rain His judgment down on this nation if we don't figure out how to end this insanity.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (2eKoI)

We're so far past due it's absurd. Bring on the cleansing fire.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:21 PM (NWiLs)

51 How long does the female who carried the baby in her womb get to decide to murder the baby? Within 5 minutes of birth? Up to a week after taking the baby home?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 11, 2019 05:21 PM (aCNZ6)

52 Hey, we're not stupid. We respond to incentives, just like everybody else.

The law in NY now says that we can act as abortionists. So we do the calculations, and we figure that it's gonna be a whole lot cheaper to stomp on the bitch's belly until the baby dies, than to do nothing and let the bitch stick us with child support payments for 18 years.

Sure, we may have to do a year or so in lock-up for assaulting the bitch, but it'll be worth it to get out from under 18 years of sending her a check every month!

Posted by: Unwilling Baby Daddies in NY at February 11, 2019 05:21 PM (fqUgw)

53 21
Cuomo, AKA Infant Murder Douche, was going back and forth with Cardinal
Dolan. He knows they don't have the balls to excommunicate him and he's
mocking them.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 11, 2019 05:17 PM (IKjSy)

Cardinal Dolan doesn't want anything to interfere with his cocktail circuit.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 11, 2019 05:22 PM (jxbfJ)

54 Fake Catholics.
Fake Jews.
Fake News.

Posted by: Presto at February 11, 2019 05:22 PM (uloIh)

55 I posted on one of the previous thread where this came up that we had a similar case here in SC. Some thug murdered a pregnant woman and killed her and the baby. The prosecuted the thug under the multiple murder law which made him eligible for the death penalty.


They did not go for the death penalty but he WAS convicted of multiple murder. He got a nice lengthy visit to the grey bar hotel and if he lives long enough to get out he will be an old old man.

Posted by: Vic at February 11, 2019 05:22 PM (mpXpK)

56 So, if you're in NY and you decide to kill your pregnant girlfriends baby by pummeling her in the stomach, that's only assault, even if the baby dies?

Is that where we're at now?

Posted by: shibumi, on wedding countdown at February 11, 2019 05:22 PM (u0hpX)

57 49 Wait, so "second-degree [unlawful] abortion" no longer exists, so "second-degree abortion" is now totally legal?

So, if I were to stab a pregnant woman and kill her unborn child, I would be charged with assault with a deadly weapon but *not* for killing the baby?

That's all kinds of fucked up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 11, 2019 05:21 PM (I2dne)

Aggravated battery or attempted murder as to the pregnant woman, but nothing as to the baby apparently. These are some seriously sick fucks in charge of NY.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:22 PM (NWiLs)

58 Check this abortion doctor out : https://twitter.com/i/status/1093970098522488833

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (4e+hS)

59 Men in NY who are motivated to kill their pregnant partner just got a boost.



Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 11, 2019 05:18 PM (zmIJL)





Not the partner, just the kid. A little love shove in the belly would save a lot of child support grief.

Posted by: Miklos, seeing incentives at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (zCyNd)

===
Collateral damage and NOT MY FAULT!!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (pw+jk)

60
Regardless of Cuomo's Catholicism, the law was passed by the entirety of the state's legislature and signed by him.

Yes, the Catholic Church should have instantaneously excommunicated him. But the failing of everyone else should engender outrage from all quarters, regardless of religion.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (/9p9e)

61 deliberately murdered

Isn't murder deliberate, by definition?

Posted by: m at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (hl9+B)

62 This has always been a fatal (no pun intended)
problem for the pro-LTA people. If a person isn't a person, how can
someone be charged with murder.

Naturally, the press never asks the question. How about it Jake?


Posted by: pep at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM


Hasn't been a problem for them at all. They're vocally against any law that allows an additional murder charge for killing an unborn child. At least they are around here. Until now I would have called them the fringe...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (p+Wdc)

63 56 So, if you're in NY and you decide to kill your pregnant girlfriends baby by pummeling her in the stomach, that's only assault, even if the baby dies?

Is that where we're at now?
Posted by: shibumi, on wedding countdown at February 11, 2019 05:22 PM (u0hpX)

I have a similar question.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (aCNZ6)

64 OT/last topic: don't know about you guys, but I'm beginning to think ace isn't too fond of this Jake Tapper fellow. Just my personal impression.


On-topic


For many who have never put the abortion issue at the center of their public policy spotlight, this sudden rush to quasi-infanticide (with standing ovations in state houses, no less) is one more big lever prying them away from any feelings of kinship to a citizenry that celebrates/tolerates such despicable stuff.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (QDnY+)

65 46
As JOOOO, maybe I should refrain from saying this, but it appears to me
the Catholic Church is gutless, especially in NY and under this Pope



Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (bim/x)



Nah, you're right. Of course this Pope is a commie protecting
pederasts, so it's not actually the worst of his problems. At least Pope
Pius was staring at a machine that could devour the Vatican and
centuries of history.

Posted by: trev006 at February 11, 2019 05:20 PM (Prldh)
Excommunication can be done by any Bishop. Problem is, the Albany Bishop started to issue harsh words, then was castigated by Cardinal Dolan.There are enemies within the wire, and they are members of our Church hierarchy - who are supposed to be our shepherds.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (jxbfJ)

66 Aggravated battery or attempted murder as to the pregnant woman, but nothing as to the baby apparently. These are some seriously sick fucks in charge of NY.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:22 PM (NWiLs)
+++++++++
Right. Nuances aside, I can be prosecuted for harming the mother but not for forcing the death of the child she's carrying.

What if I am just forcing her to have an abortion? If I strap her down and perform the procedure against her will? That's probably a modest crime, but extremely heinous.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM (I2dne)

67 Killing babies. Getting rid of planes and going back to trains. Getting rid of all internal combustion engines. "Progress" sure looks a lot like going backwards.

Posted by: Presto at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM (uloIh)

68 So a murder of a unborn baby is just a abortion by another means.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM (/rm4P)

69 There is a special place for all these folks.

WHAT they don't count on, is this mess is turning people to our side.

Posted by: Golfman at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM (OE84+)

70 If you think Infantcide is OK you should be EX-Comunicated full stop

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM (dKiJG)

71 Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable?


---

I have had a stupid day, have a headache and am irritable as well.

*fistbump*

Posted by: shibumi, on wedding countdown at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (u0hpX)

72 Phew. Good thing, that.

Would have been a horrible miscarriage of justice, otherwise.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (Ct55T)

73 Entertainment TV is far worse than news when it comes to progressive bias and hatred for conservative people and views. A cross section of nightly programming on major networks, cable TV or popular streaming services is loaded with anti-conservative, anti-Trump propaganda. January features at least 33 separate entertainment programs that attack conservative values and/or President Donald Trump while promoting a hardcore progressive agenda.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (bim/x)

74 Aggravated battery or attempted murder as to the pregnant woman, but nothing as to the baby apparently. These are some seriously sick fucks in charge of NY.
________________

Nope, not attempted murder of the woman. There's no intent to kill her.

Posted by: Unwilling Baby Daddies in NY at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (fqUgw)

75 I thought feminists want female heads of state because that would make the world a kinder, gentler place.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (aCNZ6)

76 Not the partner, just the kid. A little love shove in the belly would save a lot of child support grief.
Posted by: Miklos, seeing incentives at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM

He can't be sure it will work, or that it won't also kill her. If it does work, she will testify against him for grievous bodily injury. Men who don't want a kid will take out the mom. I've never heard of a case where a man tries to kill the baby but not "that lyin' bitch who swore to me that she was on the pill".

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (zmIJL)

77 >>Killing babies. Getting rid of planes and going back to trains. Getting rid of all internal combustion engines. "Progress" sure looks a lot like going backwards.



You forgot the part about eating bugs instead of cow, pig, and chicken.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (W+vEI)

78 Killing babies. Getting rid of planes and going
back to trains. Getting rid of all internal combustion engines.
"Progress" sure looks a lot like going backwards.

Posted by: Presto at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM (uloIh)

=======
Forward to the past comrades!!
The future is going to be glorious, GLORIOUS!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (pw+jk)

79 Has Body Parts,Inc. commented on this case?

Posted by: dantesed at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (88xKn)

80 Two murders for one charge! Bonus!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (438dO)

81 Looking on the bright side, the pushback against infanticide is going to be immense. I had dinner with my mother yesterday. I've never once heard her say anything about abortion.

She was outraged.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (hjaPQ)

82 The Catholic Church hierarchy is a pile of human garbage.

And I'm a practicing Catholic (for now).

Posted by: Tawdry Prole at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (thbcn)

83 Killing people is what democraps do. Any kind of people, any kind of way. It's their speciality.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (zLDYs)

84 Since in NY anyone can perform an abortion, the logical next step is to make the murder of pregnant women simply medical malpractice.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (BJlbN)

85 Gonna need more helicopters here, boss.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 11, 2019 05:27 PM (QzJWU)

86 A take on Y Dice's thought. Propose Roman law where they already allow LTAs. "There is no difference between that 28 month fetus and that 3 week infant so we need to end the practice of jailing moms who put their babies in the dumpster after finding the wailing newborn disturbs the woman's mental health more than the fetus in utero did"

But alas, there would be a real risk that the ghouls would support this rather than moving to end abortions past the point of viability outside the womb.

Posted by: paleRider is simply irredeemable at February 11, 2019 05:27 PM (eASYU)

87 What if the bastard had stuck a knife in his girlfriend's belly and killed the baby but not her?

Posted by: Jane D'oh


Assault with a Deadly Weapon or Attempted Murder of the woman.

No charge at all related to the baby.

That's the law now.

Except . . . that the law in NYC seems to indicate that whether the woman possessed the "will" or "desire" to have her baby actually "be" a baby is the important question.

So if the woman survives the attack and says "I wanted that clump of cells to actually 'BE' my baby", then you could charge him with murdering the child.

But of course that is yet another of the logically insane problems with this entire subject on the DemonRat side.

"Only G-d and a Woman can create life merely by willing it."

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:27 PM (2eKoI)

88 "Killing babies is what we do!"
--Democrats

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:27 PM (39g3+)

89 You forgot the part about eating bugs instead of cow, pig, and chicken.
Posted by: Lizzy at

AOC farts.

She's first.

Posted by: Golfman at February 11, 2019 05:28 PM (OE84+)

90 82
The Catholic Church hierarchy is a pile of human garbage.



And I'm a practicing Catholic (for now).

Posted by: Tawdry Prole at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (thbcn)
As am I. And I hang my head in shame at the Church leadership. Of course, I've been super p*ssed at them since they went all in for Obamacare.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 11, 2019 05:28 PM (jxbfJ)

91 Used to be "abortion" was one of those topics you just didn't talk about in polite society.

Then, the Barbarians decided they'd talk about it, and talk loudly, in any society. Which made them think they were the majority. Because they were the only audible voices.

Now, the rest of society is piping up, finally realizing that the Old Rules no longer apply.

Interesting times.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:28 PM (Ct55T)

92 At some point, if you want to keep your health insurance, abortion will be mandatory. I'm sure you'll receive some kind of notice that your child "may not be covered" if carried to term.

Posted by: Max Power at February 11, 2019 05:28 PM (q177U)

93 Check this abortion doctor out : https://twitter.com/i/status/1093970098522488833
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM (4e+hS)

--------

Whoa. Somebody needs to call an exorcist for that guy!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 05:28 PM (AzW6q)

94 Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (zmIJL)

Lots of cases where the father tries to cause a miscarriage.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 05:28 PM (TD9KB)

95 But which hand did he use?

Posted by: wth at February 11, 2019 05:28 PM (v0R5T)

96 Pregnant belly stab would probably be a charge of performing an abortion without a license.Misdemeanor.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:29 PM (BXMxN)

97 Killing babies. Getting rid of planes and going
back to trains. Getting rid of all internal combustion engines.
"Progress" sure looks a lot like going backwards.

Posted by: Presto at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM (uloIh)

Green New Deal compliant cars have already hit the showroom!


http://tinyurl.com/yxdmejvu

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2019 05:29 PM (438dO)

98 I know what it would take to get left wing politicians to start taking anti-abortion believers seriously, but I can't say it. But it's the same reason Charlie Hebdo won't dare to criticize any Muslim positions anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 05:29 PM (Kpl3J)

99 If there's no additional charge for the killing of the unborn child, if there's no difference between killing a woman and killing a pregnant woman, then why did they even mention that the woman was pregnant?

Posted by: m at February 11, 2019 05:29 PM (hl9+B)

100 What if I am just forcing her to have an abortion? If I strap her down and perform the procedure against her will? That's probably a modest crime, but extremely heinous.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM (I2dne)

Just a little assault between friends.

Posted by: LASue at February 11, 2019 05:29 PM (XROPS)

101 Light up the Freedom Tower (it'll make it easier for SMOD to target you sick fu*ks)

Posted by: Dick Poulin at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (Cozcj)

102 Cuomo's office did not comment on the murder case.



How many reporters will even ask him about it? He's not losing sleep over the issue. No one's going to hold his feet to the fire.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (zmIJL)

103 90 Every week we pray for illegals, using veiled language, during the prayers for the faithful. And not one damn word about abortion.

Posted by: Tawdry Prole at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (thbcn)

104 Glass don't faht, hahaha!

Juche One, Loundeye Zeeloh!

Ahahaha!

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (Ct55T)

105 I thought feminists want female heads of state because that would make the world a kinder, gentler place.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (aCNZ6)

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The saner women I know cringe at the thought of having all women in charge.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (ffYR/)

106 So if you slip your pregnant lady the abortion pill at 8 months it's only practicing medicine without a license in NY?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (4e+hS)

107 For all y'all predicting this sickening season of infanticide fever will have negative political repercussions for the party of death, not sure what that's based on.


I'll believe *any* insane, vile, stupid, destructive policy enacted or pushed by Dems will have political consequences when I see it. Lately there is zero data supporting such a connection.


We'll see.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (QDnY+)

108 What if I am just forcing her to have an abortion? If I strap her down and perform the procedure against her will? That's probably a modest crime, but extremely heinous.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 11, 2019 05:24 PM

Then your name might just be Caligula.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (zmIJL)

109 Scott Peterson is on death row in Cali precisely because his crime was deemed a multiple murder.
Sure, he'll never meet Ole Sparky, but still.......

I do love the way the feminazis are destroying perhaps the greatest of taboos, violence against pregnant women.
Even most primitive societies are beyond this.

But it's all .... for women!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (Rxduq)

110 So if the woman survives the attack and says "I wanted that clump of cells to actually 'BE' my baby", then you could charge him with murdering the child.

Probably not, in the current state of NY Law. They even exempted abortion clinics from most health clinic laws. In the current legal climate, Gosnell wouldn't even be shut down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (39g3+)

111 83
Killing people is what democraps do. Any kind of people, any kind of way. It's their speciality.


Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2019 05:26 PM (zLDYs)

They do take exception to killing US enemies on the battlefield.

Posted by: Vic at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (mpXpK)

112 Governor Northam blames everyone for his racism

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/321467/

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (BXMxN)

113 If there's no additional charge for the killing of the unborn child, if there's no difference between killing a woman and killing a pregnant woman, then why did they even mention that the woman was pregnant?
Posted by: m at February 11, 2019 05:29 PM (hl9+B)

excellent point Motion in limine to exclude any mention of the pregnancy.

Posted by: LASue at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (XROPS)

114 Yeah, lighting the Freedom Tower in pink to celebrate the murder of babies was really something.

*types**deletes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (ptqGC)

115 We're so far past due it's absurd. Bring on the cleansing fire.

Posted by: Insomniac


Seriously. I just started re-reading Lucifer's Hammer by Niven/Pournelle last night and I can tell you it makes me think of how things are now.

Of course the SMOD that G-d would send wouldn't be Lucifer's Hammer, but more like The Lord's Righteous Fist.

We are in for it, and quite rightly so.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (2eKoI)

116 Ask any abortion advocate that if the technology existed where the unwanted fetus could be removed from the mother and put in an incubator until it reached full term and available for adoption would they agree to that instead of abortion?

The answer would not surprise you.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 05:32 PM (TD9KB)

117 The saner women I know cringe at the thought of having all women in charge.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
...........

I had one female boss in my late 20's. I swore never again! fucking nightmare.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2019 05:32 PM (438dO)

118 What if I am just forcing her to have an abortion? If I strap her down and perform the procedure against her will?

Assault and various charges based on doing stuff to the woman. Nothing for murdering the helpless unborn baby. Literally the most extreme, outrageous, and horrific abortion laws on the planet.

And they lit up the Freedom Plaza pink in celebration.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:32 PM (39g3+)

119
G-d is going to rain His judgment down on this nation if we don't figure out how to end this insanity.
Posted by: Sharkman


Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

Posted by: Travis Bickel at February 11, 2019 05:32 PM (aKsyK)

120 Cuomo and Palsi can still take communion, correct?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 11, 2019 05:32 PM (ty7RM)

121 116 They have already gone on record they think adoption is crueler then abortion.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:32 PM (BXMxN)

122 60 Regardless of Cuomo's Catholicism, the law was passed by the entirety of the state's legislature and signed by him.
Yes, the Catholic Church should have instantaneously excommunicated him. But the failing of everyone else should engender outrage from all quarters, regardless of religion.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM

Exactly, reacting in rage after the law has passed is too late. "Now", right now, needs to be the time that all concerned constituents demand in their states that a copy of this vile legislation should not be presented, discussed, nor passed.

Posted by: slowdown at February 11, 2019 05:33 PM (E+yET)

123 The saner women I know cringe at the thought of having all women in charge.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (ffYR/)


You can add me to that list.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 05:33 PM (ptqGC)

124 We're so far past due it's absurd. Bring on the cleansing fire.

Yeah. We really do have it coming. God help us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:33 PM (39g3+)

125 Andrew Cuomo's Pro-Infanticide Abortion Law Spares a Murderer an Additional Charge of Also Killing His Girlfriend's Unborn Baby

Frankly, murder should merit a death sentence so it really shouldn't make much of a difference. Multiple murders might call for a slower, more painful death.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 11, 2019 05:33 PM (XZlDP)

126 120 They can take it but they are committing a mortal sin unless they confess and repent,They are making things worse for themselves.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:34 PM (BXMxN)

127 Assault and various charges based on doing stuff to the woman. Nothing for murdering the helpless unborn baby. Literally the most extreme, outrageous, and horrific abortion laws on the planet.

And they lit up the Freedom Plaza pink in celebration.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:32 PM (39g3+)
++++++++++++
Yeah, this is what I'm getting at and it is completely bonkers. Forced abortion is not a crime in NY. The only criminal act is the assault or whatever that is necessarily executed in order to cause the forced abortion.

That is seriously fucked up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 11, 2019 05:34 PM (I2dne)

128 Obama opened this can of worms. The most pro-abortion president in my time.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 05:34 PM (ptqGC)

129 The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper... "no."

Posted by: Rorschach at February 11, 2019 05:34 PM (NWiLs)

130 Frankly, murder should merit a death sentence so it really shouldn't make much of a difference. Multiple murders might call for a slower, more painful death.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 11, 2019 05:33 PM (XZlDP)

I still don't want to live under a so-called "government" which openly asserts that shoving a knife through a fetus (while wearing a labcoat or not) is just hunky-dory.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:35 PM (Ct55T)

131 Killing babies. Getting rid of planes and going back to trains. Getting rid of all internal combustion engines. "Progress" sure looks a lot like going backwards.

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We'll melt all our internal combustion engines down and make a Golden Calf.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 05:35 PM (+y/Ru)

132 I had one female boss in my late 20's. I swore never again! fucking nightmare."

I hate fucking female bosses!

Posted by: The Chimpanzee at February 11, 2019 05:35 PM (Kpl3J)

133 My political awakening:

September 11th, 2001: I am not a Democrat

November 9th, 2016: I am not Conservative

January 22nd, 2019: I am not Pro-choice

Posted by: Max Power at February 11, 2019 05:35 PM (q177U)

134 Obama opened this can of worms. The most pro-abortion president in my time.

Ever. The most racist president in my time, perhaps ever. So filled with sneering hate.

I pray regularly, on my aching knees, for God to show patience and mercy toward our nation, while expecting judgment. The bones of all those tiny babies are at our feet.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:36 PM (39g3+)

135 I hate fucking female bosses!
Posted by: The Chimpanzee at February 11, 2019 05:35 PM (Kpl3J)

"I mean, she promised she'd give me a raise... but that's not what I meant!!!!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:36 PM (Ct55T)

136 New York State Catholic Conference warning that it "removes accountability for those who would harm unborn children outside the context of medical termination of pregnancy."


What does that mean?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2019 05:37 PM (AllCR)

137 Cuomo's Catholicism

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He's not Catholic Catholic.

Posted by: Oopsie Goldberg at February 11, 2019 05:37 PM (+y/Ru)

138 It's moider I tells ya.

Posted by: wth at February 11, 2019 05:37 PM (v0R5T)

139
He can't be sure it will work, or that it won't also kill her. If it does work, she will testify against him for grievous bodily injury. Men who don't want a kid will take out the mom. I've never heard of a case where a man tries to kill the baby but not "that lyin' bitch who swore to me that she was on the pill".
___________________

Our homie Ray Carruth told the buddies he hired to shoot his baby mama in the belly. He wanted to kill the baby, not the woman. Just his bad luck the baby survived (with brain damage) but the woman died!

Posted by: Unwilling Baby Daddies in NY at February 11, 2019 05:37 PM (fqUgw)

140 I saw Unwilling Abortions open for the Damned at CBGB's in 1979. Those punks had a lot of passion in their music, but not that much talent.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at February 11, 2019 05:37 PM (2sCft)

141 How about charging him with practicing women's reproductive health without a license? The state didn't get their payola from this guy and that is the worst crime of all.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (ZQSMx)

142 In the current legal climate, Gosnell wouldn't even be shut down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (39g3+)


That's the scariest thing I think I've ever read on this blog, and that's saying a lot.

Posted by: Max Power at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (q177U)

143 Obama opened this can of worms. The most pro-abortion president in my time.

Just put the fetus on the shelf over there. It'll die eventually.

Who wants lunch?

Posted by: Ex-King, Ex-Admiral, Ex-Emperor Barky at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (XZlDP)

144 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2019 05:37 PM (AllCR)

Sorry; I re-read it. I understand it now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (AllCR)

145 On the next "Law and Order:SVU"....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (Ct55T)

146 New York State Catholic Conference warning that it "removes accountability for those who would harm unborn children outside the context of medical termination of pregnancy."

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Like Solomon, they're splitting the baby.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (+y/Ru)

147 January 22nd, 2019: I am not Pro-choice
Posted by: Max Power at February 11, 2019 05:35 PM (q177U)

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There comes a point when you can no longer the cognitive dissonance of the pro-Choice worldview. It's a central moral question. If you believe in the sanctity of human life you have to oppose abortion. I'm still sort of up in the air about the death penalty, because it's a lot more complicated than abortion, but I got cleared up on the simple one during college.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (AzW6q)

148 Huh. So I've never really considered it, but is there an obvious pro-abortion connection to why adoption is prohibitively expense in the United States?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (LX21o)

149 I have had several female bosses and they were uniformly not great. One was fixated on hiring women and getting men out of her department. However, that's a pretty limited sample and I don't doubt there are some good ones out there. I had my share of crappy male bosses too.

However I do think that, whether its cultural or inherent, men do take to positions of power better than women do, on average. That it takes a pretty extraordinary woman to be in power and handle it well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (39g3+)

150
It faced fierce opposition, with the New York State Catholic Conference

Did this fierce opposition include calling for a public excommunication for Cuomo and every Catholic lawmaker who voted for the law and holding the church accountable for sitting on its hands? Yeah, get back to me when it does.

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (PrVhQ)

151 56 So, if you're in NY and you decide to kill your pregnant girlfriends baby by pummeling her in the stomach, that's only assault, even if the baby dies?

Is that where we're at now?
Posted by: shibumi, on wedding countdown at February 11, 2019 05:22 PM (u0hpX)


Worse. IIRC, performing abortions in NY no longer requires an MD. What's to prevent the guy from telling police he was just performing an abortion himself?

Posted by: cornbred at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (M6YjU)

152 No longer a catholic which has actually made me a stronger and better Christian. You don't need the trappings of a church based on man made rituals to be a true believer. I'm not saying that if you do follow the catholic church that you aren't a true believer I'm just saying that it isn't necessary. Read the gospel, it's all right there.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (kufk0)

153 No one's going to hold his feet to the fire.

Posted by: JuJuBee


Not while he's alive, of course.

But once he's gone to his reward, he'll be shocked to discover that even though he was doing Satan's work while on Earth, Satan doesn't give a shit and will gladly spit-roast him for Eternity.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (2eKoI)

154 145 On the next "Law and Order:SVU"....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (Ct55T)

An evangelical Christian minister beats his pregnant mistress to cause a miscarriage, blames it on a black gay man.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (NWiLs)

155 I wonder what Goucher College's most famous alumnus thinks of this.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (lcEkv)

156
Oh fuckfuckfuckfuck...

You see this?

Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.

And guess what. Fake News is there to see it and share it with us!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (Cadn7)

157 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (AzW6q)

Would it help to know that there are over 800 people in prison now for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 05:40 PM (TD9KB)

158 Regardless of Cuomo's Catholicism, the law was passed by the entirety of the state's legislature and signed by him.

Yes, the Catholic Church should have instantaneously excommunicated
him. But the failing of everyone else should engender outrage from all
quarters, regardless of religion.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:23 PM

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I'd ask that we back this bus up just a little bit.

I'm not sure I want to see religious leaders pronouncing anathemas on politicians. The Church used to do this in a hot minute and the results weren't particularly good.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (cfSRQ)

159 Huh. So I've never really considered it, but is there an obvious pro-abortion connection to why adoption is prohibitively expense in the United States?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
.............

I think it's all the legalities.. People have adopted and many years later the woman wants her baby back..

They likely have to go through some extremely expensive legal crap to make sure everything is air tight.. and you know.. lawyers!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (438dO)

160 156 LOL of course,she is a "person of color" and a muslim.She won the victim sweepstakes as far as the left is concerned.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (BXMxN)

161 145 On the next "Law and Order:SVU"....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (Ct55T)

An evangelical Christian minister beats his pregnant mistress to cause a miscarriage, blames it on a black gay man.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (NWiLs)
=++++
Now you got yer screenwriter cap on. That's Gold, Jerry! Gold!!

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (2sCft)

162
Anyone ask that lying fake news fraud ana navarro and her PUNGENT crotch if she accepted Steve King's apology after he said nothing wrong but was being framed by the Fake News?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (Cadn7)

163 114 Yeah, lighting the Freedom Tower in pink to celebrate the murder of babies was really something.

*types**deletes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (ptqGC)
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Disgusting.

Just as Obama lighting the White House in rainbow colors was disgusting.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (Rxduq)

164 An evangelical Christian minister beats his pregnant mistress to cause a miscarriage, blames it on a black gay man.
=====

.....who was also his secret lover

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (JcXHH)

165 Huh. So I've never really considered it, but is there an obvious pro-abortion connection to why adoption is prohibitively expense in the United States?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (LX21o)

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Having adopted privately, it seems to be more of a supply/demand thing, to look at it coldly. A LOT of couples/individuals are looking to adopt.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (ffYR/)

166 The saner women I know cringe at the thought of having all women in charge.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (ffYR/)

Just looking at the all white kennel club at the SOTU made me cringe.

Posted by: Cheri at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (oiNtH)

167 I do think that the more crazy the Roman Catholic church goes, the more people they're going to hemorrhage, probably to the Eastern Orthodox. I mean they're welcome to the Reformation but it takes a big change in theology

Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.

In other news, congressional Democrat aides hate the Joo

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (39g3+)

168 >>Just put the fetus on the shelf over there.


...or the floor.

Our shelf guy hasn't finished yet.

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (/wAOm)

169 Hmm,"fierce opposition" means something different to me.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (BXMxN)

170 73 Entertainment TV is far worse than news when it comes to progressive bias and hatred for conservative people and views. A cross section of nightly programming on major networks, cable TV or popular streaming services is loaded with anti-conservative, anti-Trump propaganda. January features at least 33 separate entertainment programs that attack conservative values and/or President Donald Trump while promoting a hardcore progressive agenda.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:25 PM (bim/x)

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Which is why I refuse to watch network/cable TV.

I watch the Dove channel, and youtube (lots of good 'ol 70s disaster flicks).

Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (RU4sa)

171 Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.

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Ahhhh. It's like the ending to It's a Wonderful Life.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM (+y/Ru)

172 125
Andrew Cuomo's Pro-Infanticide Abortion Law Spares a Murderer an Additional Charge of Also Killing His Girlfriend's Unborn Baby



Frankly, murder should merit a death sentence so it really shouldn't
make much of a difference. Multiple murders might call for a slower,
more painful death.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 11, 2019 05:33 PM (XZlDP)

The problem lies in a liberal SCOTUS ruling that deemed capital punishment "cruel and unusual".

That was later rolled back somewhat by making it available for "special circumstances". And illogical ruling since it did not remove the cruel and unusual punishment categorization.
But one of the "special circumstances is "multiple murder".


Posted by: Vic at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM (mpXpK)

173 I'd ask that we back this bus up just a little bit.

I'm not sure I want to see religious leaders pronouncing anathemas on politicians. The Church used to do this in a hot minute and the results weren't particularly good.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (cfSRQ)

I'm sure there's enough space between "murdering infants is totes OK" and "I'm gonna pay some bishops to accuse a neighboring Duke of some ridiculous heresy or another because I want his lands for myself."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM (Ct55T)

174 An evangelical Christian minister beats his pregnant mistress to cause a miscarriage, blames it on a black gay man.
=====

.....who was also his secret lover
Posted by: Bicentennialguy

...And was then abducted by aliens.

Posted by: Jerry Springer at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM (gkstg)

175 I.agree that soon abortion will ve mandatory

insurance will say - oh the fetus has bad DNA, or the mom has GD, we will cover termination but not birth or complications

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM (BJlbN)

176 If experience has taught me anything :

The one thing women are good at it is making decisions.

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM (/wAOm)

177 166 The saner women I know cringe at the thought of having all women in charge.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 11, 2019 05:30 PM (ffYR/)

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Count me as one of them.

Gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (RU4sa)

178 I think it's all the legalities.. People have adopted and many years later the woman wants her baby back..

They likely have to go through some extremely expensive legal crap to make sure everything is air tight.. and you know.. lawyers!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2019 05:41 PM (438dO)



Here in Cali, one MUST foster before one can adopt, and if in the next five years Meth-Head Mom went through rehab and says she wants her baby back, tough.

Most people who take part in the Foster program are just there for the state babysitting money.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (ujg0T)

179 But once he's gone to his reward, he'll be shocked to discover that even though he was doing Satan's work while on Earth, Satan doesn't give a shit and will gladly spit-roast him for Eternity.

"I have a special spike made of acid-coated hornets to ram through his entire body stem to stern and roast him over lava for when we give him a break from the REAL misery."
--Satan laughing, spreads his wings

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (39g3+)

180 Seeing pictures of Cuomo signing this bill with all in attendance with their big smiles horrified me. Even friends of mine that are pro-choice are horrified.

Posted by: Cheri at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (oiNtH)

181 154 145 On the next "Law and Order:SVU"....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:38 PM (Ct55T)

An evangelical Christian minister beats his pregnant mistress to cause a miscarriage, blames it on a black gay man.
Posted by: Insomniac



The black gay Islamic man

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (aZZa7)

182 Just put the fetus on the shelf over there.


...or the floor.

Our shelf guy hasn't finished yet.
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (/wAOm)

Give him a break. It's hard to put up shelves in a broom closet. There's no light.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (TD9KB)

183
Is there a mug shot of this guy? Oh, right, they got rid of those too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (IPtjv)

184 Here in Cali, one MUST foster before one can adopt, and if in the next five years Meth-Head Mom went through rehab and says she wants her baby back, tough.

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Holy crap.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (LX21o)

185 I'm sorry my church (Catholic) is anti abortion in name only. The fact they will not exclude supporters of baby murder is shameful. I don't know what to do to change this other than prayer. The church doesn't care what I think.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (0OmEj)

186 >>Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.


Someone should nail 9 strips of bacon to her door.

Posted by: Luther at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (/wAOm)

187 So if the woman survives the attack and says "I wanted that clump of cells to actually 'BE' my baby", then you could charge him with murdering the child.

Probably not, in the current state of NY Law. They even exempted abortion clinics from most health clinic laws. In the current legal climate, Gosnell wouldn't even be shut down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


I understand your point, but there is a distinction between NY protecting abortionists while those ghouls are doing their thing, which is what the laws you've talked about will do, and protecting the Sacred Right of the Mother To Deem Her Child Human or Not, Depending Upon Her Mood.

I would think that if the woman survived and "wanted" her child then the assailant, as long as he wasn't an abortionist (however defined, as someone up-thread has said that anyone can perform one in NY now) plying his stock in trade, then the assailant could still be charged.

Which, of course, would lead to criminal trials where Thug is trying to say he meets the low standard for being an abortionist and so should be let go.

Illogic + Insanity + Satan + "Woman's Rights" = SMOD.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (2eKoI)

188 For some reason Ace is reliving his shameful "Cuck Period" in the sidebar.

Some funny stuff there, sure, but why? Why, oh why?


Is PCSD (Post-Cuck Stress Disorder?) a thing?


Will he start carrying a small poodle named Mr Wiggleworth everywhere he goes as his PCSD Service Dog?

What if he starts having flashbacks to his time in the fever swamps of the Viet Cuck?

The mind reels!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (9X624)

189 I'm in the camp that 9 times out 10, talking about abortion benefits Democrats. It's like our version of gun control.

This though might be the first time in a long time I really think abortion politics are blowing up in the Dems faces.

The late term stuff really hits home, I hope social conservatives stay there and don't start talking about rape babies.

Posted by: Blago at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (UfkIY)

190 The one thing women are good at it is making decisions.
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM (/wAOm)

it's because we have so much practice
we can make and remake decisions infinitely

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (BJlbN)

191 156
Oh fuckfuckfuckfuck...

You see this?

Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.

And guess what. Fake News is there to see it and share it with us!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (Cadn7)

They aren't even trying to pretend anymore.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (NWiLs)

192
Someone should nail 9 strips of bacon to her door.


Hate crime!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (Cadn7)

193 They have already gone on record they think adoption is crueler then abortion.
Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2019 05:32 PM (BXMxN)

Or living= if you are not perfect.

Quite Aryan, actually.

Posted by: LASue at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (XROPS)

194 I'm not sure I want to see religious leaders pronouncing anathemas on politicians. The Church used to do this in a hot minute and the results weren't particularly good.

But think: what was the problem with that happening? Was it the pronouncement of anathemas, or the unBiblical, improper power that the church had? That is: was it the fact that the church declared that someone was sinful and should not receive communion that was the problem, or the fact that this would destroy people's lives and could be abused for power and riches?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (39g3+)

195 'What do you want for dinner?'

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (/wAOm)

196 176 to me not more so or less so.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (/rm4P)

197 As JOOOO, maybe I should refrain from saying this,
but it appears to me the Catholic Church is gutless, especially in NY
and under this Pope

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (bim/x)


Absolutely true NGU and I am a Catholic. I also remember that when I served in the military one of the things I was rated on in my OER was Moral Courage. And I was nothing but a grunt but that rating had an impact on my career. The Roman Catholic Church seems to be singularly lacking in this regard. Maybe they should consider incorporating it into whatever their version of an Efficiency Report is. You'd think it would be at the top of the list. You would think.

Posted by: LGoPs at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (vFUiw)

198 Would it help to know that there are over 800 people in prison now for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 05:40 PM (TD9KB)

-------

Sure - it really is one where I can see both sides, though.

I don't actually have a moral/intellectual objection to it. We're not talking about an innocent person here, in fact, it's quite the opposite.

My qualms are practical - the government is so incompetent that I don't really trust them with this power even if their hearts are in the right place.

Which, all too often they're not... there are prosecutors out there who will most definitely lie, withhold exculpatory evidence, bribe witnesses, whatever they have to do keep up the conviction rate and get maximum penalties.

On the other hand, some crimes cry out for blood, and some cases have such a preponderance of evidence that there can be no doubt.

It's a tough one for me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (AzW6q)

199 22 This is all to desensitize people for when state-run healthcare euthanizing anyone they deem to not be worth keeping alive.
Posted by: Surfperch


Exactly. This shit isn't about protecting mom's health.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (+lVUW)

200 Democrat Handmaidens flock to pay Homage to Elected Exotic Weirdo...with sticky notes!

They're doing all they can to re-elect Trump, so there's that.

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (talIc)

201 The problem lies in a liberal SCOTUS ruling that deemed capital punishment "cruel and unusual".

That was later rolled back somewhat by making it available for "special circumstances". And illogical ruling since it did not remove the cruel and unusual punishment categorization.
But one of the "special circumstances is "multiple murder".


Posted by: Vic at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM (mpXpK)


I know. More than half the problems this country faces - that cannot be fixed - are because of the courts (the federal courts, mostly) making totally insane and frivolous rulings about very serious and clear issues. It is a real problem and one of the reasons why things will never be fixed without actually breaking the system and starting over - i.e. national divorce.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (XZlDP)

202
Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.

Congress has AIDS.
And 95 post-it notes on the door.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2019 05:47 PM (aKsyK)

203 Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.


I hope none of them were jooossss. Gross.

Posted by: Ilhan Omar, incest is love at February 11, 2019 05:47 PM (aZZa7)

204 So could a boyfriend slip his girlfriend an abortifacient causing a miscarriage and not get charged with anything? Or punch her in the belly until she miscarries and only be charged with assault against the woman?

Posted by: 29Victor at February 11, 2019 05:47 PM (BJKQV)

205 Someone should nail 9 strips of bacon to her door.

I would so love to do this. If that makes me a bad person, I don't wanna be good.

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 05:47 PM (talIc)

206 I don't think The Church should bar pro-abortion politicians from services... but they MUST (not "should") be barred from receiving communion.

To say otherwise is ridiculous, and an outright insult to the Sacrament.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:47 PM (Ct55T)

207 Trump should swoop in and declare that the assailant in this case violated the Civil Rights of the Baby by killing it, and seek to have him charged under Federal Civil Rights laws.

It wouldn't work of course, but the right heads would explode, and it would be a great opportunity for Trump to blast the DemonRats on this subject.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:47 PM (2eKoI)

208 There are a few bishops that take the issue seriously.
The Bishop of San Francisco has instructed all priests in his diocese to refuse communion to Nancy Pelosi until she repents. (Cordileone by name --- and by nature, it seems!)

Of course, she's rarely back there and probably only goes to church for show anyway.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2019 05:48 PM (Rxduq)

209 Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.

-
Ahhhh. It's like the ending to It's a Wonderful Life.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 05:43 PM



Every time the muezzin calls prayer, a Demoncrat gets its postit note.

Posted by: Zuzu al-Bailey at February 11, 2019 05:48 PM (786Ro)

210 I do think that the more crazy the Roman Catholic
church goes, the more people they're going to hemorrhage, probably to
the Eastern Orthodox. I mean they're welcome to the Reformation but it
takes a big change in theology

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (39g3+)

---
The Catholic Church is under a massive sustained assault from both without and within. The left knows that it is their Great Enemy and will stop at nothing to destroy it.

The ACLU is suing Catholic hospitals to force them to perform abortions. Obama made nuns pay for birth control. Catholic adoption agencies are being told to place children with homosexuals or be shut down.

And of course there's the insidious rot that has corrupted its upper levels.

I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this, but if we fall, you'll be next and you won't last half as long. The Methodists, Presbyterians and Anglicans have all succumbed, as have a number of Lutheran denominations. The Southern Baptists are starting to feel pressure.

Handing out excommunications is a drastic step that can backfire in a big way. It is also likely to prove completely ineffective if not counterproductive.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 05:48 PM (cfSRQ)

211 184 Here in Cali, one MUST foster before one can adopt, and if in the next five years Meth-Head Mom went through rehab and says she wants her baby back, tough.
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Holy crap.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (LX21o)



Yah, when my ex and I went to the meetings for interested foster or foster-to-adopt parents (held in each major county AFAIK), it was really eye-opening. Only two couples out of 30 odd were interested in taking the risk of foster to adopt, bonding with the kid, only to have Messed Up Mom potentially want the tot back in the future. The rest were just there for that sweet sweet stipend, and if you are on General Assistance and staying home anyway, as many AFDC Welfare Women are, hey, why not?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 11, 2019 05:48 PM (ujg0T)

212 In 2012, there were more black babies killed by abortion (31,32 in New York City than were born there (24,75, and the black children killed comprised 42.4% of the total number of abortions in the Big Apple, according to a report by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.

Black Lives Matter

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 11, 2019 05:48 PM (LX21o)

213 In summation, it is legal to kill a baby in New York.

Misgendering an adult, however...

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 05:49 PM (/wAOm)

214 I see that Linda Soursore has got BroFo Omar's back.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 05:49 PM (+y/Ru)

215 Cordileone by name --- and by nature, it seems!

Take this bread and eat from it - that's an offer you can't refuse.

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 05:49 PM (talIc)

216 I thought democrats wanted to ban post-it notes ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 11, 2019 05:49 PM (XZlDP)

217 Congress has AIDS.
And 95 post-it notes on the door.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.



Those are the herpes.

Posted by: eleven at February 11, 2019 05:49 PM (NLLmE)

218 You see this?

Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.



Dems love those flash mob optics.

Posted by: Zuzu al-Bailey at February 11, 2019 05:49 PM (786Ro)

219 Well, the little smiley face things dull the impact a bit, but f*ck it. It's just black kids anyway.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 11, 2019 05:49 PM (LX21o)

220 167 I do think that the more crazy the Roman Catholic church goes, the more people they're going to hemorrhage, probably to the Eastern Orthodox. I mean they're welcome to the Reformation but it takes a big change in theology

Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.

In other news, congressional Democrat aides hate the Joo
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:42 PM (39g3+)

Well we do have our own Eastern Rites they allow the Preist's to marry and it's more Old School Roman Rite. If I could switch I would to the other Catholic Rites.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (dKiJG)

221 Read the sidebar flashback post. The days of the countdown.

10

DAY 1,214

249 to go (322 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 04, 2016 07:19 AM (p4UlV)

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (dNzKv)

222 Christopher R. Taylor--Maybe all the current baby-killing loveparade is actually the revenge of the democraps against the Gosnell film makers?

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (zLDYs)

223 201 I know. More than half the problems this country
faces - that cannot be fixed - are because of the courts (the federal
courts, mostly) making totally insane and frivolous rulings about very
serious and clear issues. It is a real problem and one of the reasons
why things will never be fixed without actually breaking the system and
starting over - i.e. national divorce.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (XZlDP)

What really chafes my butt is that the "cruel and unusual punishment" clause was directly aimed at "drawing and quartering" which was a punishment meted out to those who were alleged to have committed treason against the crown. So a simple execution was judged to be the same as torturing someone for several hours prior to cutting out their intestines and beheading them.

Posted by: Vic at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (mpXpK)

224 I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this

No, not enjoying it. Finding it unsurprising, but not enjoying it. Because the same legal attacks on Roman Catholics are on Protestants right now. Any ruling against a bunch of Nuns is also a ruling against a Pizza place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (39g3+)

225 So, does this mean I can walk around the streets of Brooklyn carrying a coat-hanger, and slip it under the miniskirt of any passing baby-bump coeds to give them abortions against their consent -- and I won't be charged with any crime, because it's now legal?

Sweet. I think I found my new hobby.

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (c+2jX)

226 I know. More than half the problems this country faces - that cannot be fixed - are because of the courts (the federal courts, mostly) making totally insane and frivolous rulings about very serious and clear issues. It is a real problem and one of the reasons why things will never be fixed without actually breaking the system and starting over - i.e. national divorce.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (XZlDP)

Yup. You know how slavery started in North America? A court case.

Know how the Supremes became the arbiter of the Constitution itself? It gave it unto itself in, a court case.

Know how the Fed Government is in EVERY business in the US? A Court case that decided that a farmer raising feed for his own chickens, is somehow interstate commerce.

Dual Citizenship? Court Case.

Have to give all kinds of government benefits to illegals? Court case.

Abortion? Court case.

Ability to infringe on gun rights? Yup, court case.

I can go on and on... but a lot of problems we have in the US happened when the Courts made political rulings from the bench.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (NgKpN)

227
As JOOOO, maybe I should refrain from saying
this, but it appears to me the Catholic Church is gutless, especially in
NY and under this Pope

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:19 PM (bim/x)

As a papist myself, unfortunately, I agree with you.
The Church currently has a significant number of evil men in high positions.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 11, 2019 05:51 PM (8iiMU)

228 195 'What do you want for dinner?'
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 05:46 PM (/wAOm)

"Whatever you want, honey."
"OK, let's order Chinese."
"I'm not really in the mood for Chinese."
"Alright, let's go to the Tex Mex place."
"No, I got heartburn last time."
"Fine. Chick-fil-a?"
"Too hatey."
"The steakhouse?"
"Have you SEEN how inhumanely they treat cows."
"Fine. Let's stay in."
"I don't feel like cooking."
"I'll cook, then."
"You? Cook? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
"Oh fuck this..."
"What are YOU getting all mad for? You're the one who can't make up his mind!"

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:52 PM (NWiLs)

229 225 So, does this mean I can walk around the streets of Brooklyn carrying a coat-hanger, and slip it under the miniskirt of any passing baby-bump coeds to give them abortions against their consent -- and I won't be charged with any crime, because it's now legal?

Sweet. I think I found my new hobby.
Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (c+2jX)

Assault.

Posted by: m at February 11, 2019 05:52 PM (hl9+B)

230 215 Cordileone by name --- and by nature, it seems!

Take this bread and eat from it - that's an offer you can't refuse.
Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 05:49 PM (talIc)

*as the communicants pass by the celebrant...*

You think you're better than me?

You think you're better than me?

You think you're better than me?

...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:52 PM (Ct55T)

231
I've never heard of a case where a man tries to kill the baby but not "that lyin' bitch who swore to me that she was on the pill".
__________________

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3s7nee8

This one happened in NY (of all places). A Brooklyn man, who'd been in a 9-year relationship with the woman, had her assaulted and beaten when she was 7 months pregnant, killing their baby daughter.

The man was angry because the woman had refused to go to several appointments he'd made for her with an abortion doctor, and also because the woman had threatened to tell his fiancee' that she was pregnant by him.

Shortly before the assault, the man had researched "can being hit in the stomach cause a miscarriage?" and similar type questions on the internet.

Among the charges he was found guilty of were assault, and "forced abortion." This was in 2015, before the new law was passed in NY.

Posted by: Unwilling Baby Daddies in NY at February 11, 2019 05:52 PM (fqUgw)

232 The Catholic Church is under a massive sustained assault from both without and within. The left knows that it is their Great Enemy and will stop at nothing to destroy it.

The ACLU is suing Catholic hospitals to force them to perform abortions. Obama made nuns pay for birth control. Catholic adoption agencies are being told to place children with homosexuals or be shut down.

And of course there's the insidious rot that has corrupted its upper levels.

I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this, but if we fall, you'll be next and you won't last half as long. The Methodists, Presbyterians and Anglicans have all succumbed, as have a number of Lutheran denominations. The Southern Baptists are starting to feel pressure.

Handing out excommunications is a drastic step that can backfire in a big way. It is also likely to prove completely ineffective if not counterproductive.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd

_________

I would argue the Catholic Church has already been co-opted into the Hive. At least at every leadership level that matters. It might as well be the Southern Poverty Law Center.

As a Protestant, I honestly take no pleasure in it. It's devastating in fact. Christians can't afford to be divided right now.

I will say rank and file American Catholics are partly to blame though for not standing up to leadership, but that's sort of part of the Theology to always fall in line.

Posted by: Blago at February 11, 2019 05:52 PM (UfkIY)

233 As a Protestant, I don't enjoy, one bit, the RC troubles. I'm sorry about it, and hope the next Pope rights the ship.

Posted by: kraken at February 11, 2019 05:52 PM (90T4r)

234
Ralph Coonman Northam: This is a 'teaching moment' for myself and for the country.

What did you learn, asked Fake News.

Northam: "I learned I was born in 'white privilege.'"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (Cadn7)

235 Posted by: Vic at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (mpXpK)

And as Robert Heinlein pointed out, any punishment must be cruel, or it is not punishment.

and you hope that its 'unusual' in that you don't have to use it that often.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (NgKpN)

236 When you have a Chief Justice who plays politics as we now know he did with O-care, the nation is in big trouble. Trying to "build consensuses" and "make deals" is Congresses job. His job is to rule on the constitutionality of the bill, period.

I don't think Trump will have enough SCOTUS appts. to get us out of this mess.

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (talIc)

237 I'm still sort of up in the air about the death penalty, because it's a lot more complicated than abortion, but I got cleared up on the simple one during college."

For most crimes, I can see the argument for some level of mercy, but when the crime is truly heinous, and there is no conceivable doubt about guilt, then no, I don't think there's any good argument against it.

Best current example - ask a good, dedicated leftist who is against the D.P. why he thinks Dylan Roof, a white supremacist who murdered 9 completely innocent black worshippers in cold blood, and for no reason other than his own hatred, should be given room and board for life.

For bonus points, bring up Nidal Hassan, who murdered 13 people at Ft. Hood because they weren't Muslims, and who openly says he would gladly do it again if he ever got the chance. What's the reason for keeping him around again?

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (Kpl3J)

238 Maybe all the current baby-killing loveparade is actually the revenge of the democraps against the Gosnell film makers?

Yeah I think some of it is a reaction to Gosnell, but I think the bulk of it is fear that RBG is on her last legs, if not already gone, and the Supreme Court slips totally out of their control for a generation at least. I don't believe it will happen, but they think Roe v Wade and Casey will be overturned if hard left radicals lose power in the court. So they're acting now to lock in baby murder in their states.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (39g3+)

239 THE LAW IS THE LAW!

Posted by: Mario Koomoe at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (kSq2k)

240 184 Here in Cali, one MUST foster before one can adopt, and if in the next five years Meth-Head Mom went through rehab and says she wants her baby back, tough.
--
Holy crap.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (LX21o)


In TX once the judge terminated rights, it is a done deal. Parents have 30 days to appeal, but can only appeal on the grounds that procedure wasn't followed.

I think in CA, if the child is part Indian, the tribe can claim custody at any time, even if the birth parent wasn't a member of the tribe.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (dNzKv)

241 Pretty soon it will be the baby's fault somehow. Next step.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (m1xkc)

242 I'm sorry my church (Catholic) is anti abortion in
name only. The fact they will not exclude supporters of baby murder is
shameful. I don't know what to do to change this other than prayer. The
church doesn't care what I think.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 11, 2019 05:45 PM (0OmEj)

---
It isn't the Church's job to exclude ANYONE. Salvation is offered to all.

In fact, God's joy is so much greater when a sinner repents.

That's the dilemma the bishops and priests deal with on a daily basis.

Sure, it would be fun and satisfying to issue a Bull of Excommunication, but would it actually accomplish anything?

Anything besides feeding the leftist line that Catholics can't be trusted to hold public office, I mean.

Because that's where this is headed. If Cuomo is excommunicated, the Dems will refuse to confirm another Catholic judge on the grounds that fear of excommunication would destroy their impartiality.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (cfSRQ)

243 I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this, but if we fall, you'll be next

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I think that is right. They're going for the biggest target first. After that, it'll just be mopping up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (+y/Ru)

244 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:52 PM (NWiLs)

Someone named their restaurant 'I Don't Care'

As in 'where do you want to go to eat? '

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (TD9KB)

245 Just put the fetus on the shelf over there. It'll die eventually.

Who wants lunch?

Posted by: Ex-King, Ex-Admiral, Ex-Emperor Barky


AoSHQ Style Book Violation:

"Ex-Prez'nit Cock-Curious" must be added to all such appellations.

Please make a note.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (2eKoI)

246 229 225 So, does this mean I can walk around the streets of Brooklyn carrying a coat-hanger, and slip it under the miniskirt of any passing baby-bump coeds to give them abortions against their consent -- and I won't be charged with any crime, because it's now legal?

Sweet. I think I found my new hobby.
Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (c+2jX)

Assault.
Posted by: m


But according to the new law, I'm not actually hurting or injuring anyone or anything, so it can't be assault. Abortion -- even nonconsensual abortion -- is not a criminal act, according to the state of NY.

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (c+2jX)

247 As am I. And I hang my head in shame at the Church leadership. Of course, I've been super p*ssed at them since they went all in for Obamacare.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
---

I agree with both of you.

Posted by: shibumi, on wedding countdown at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (u0hpX)

248 There was that case in Colorado where some psycho lured a pregnant woman over to her house saying she was selling baby clothes, knocked the mom out, cut the baby out of her, and went to the hospital with the baby, claiming she'd just given birth. The baby died. Amazingly the mom didn't die but came-to, all cut open, and managed to call for help.

They weren't able to charge the psycho with murder in that case either.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (BD/yx)

249 Hey... they never said anything about "cruel or unusual"...

So be as cruel as you like, as long as it's pedestrian.

Or do something incredibly odd and bizarre.. but not very cruel.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (Ct55T)

250 An evangelical Christian minister beats his pregnant mistress to cause a miscarriage, blames it on a black gay man.
=====

.....who was also his secret lover
Posted by: Bicentennialguy

Well say goodbye to that white privilege today!

Posted by: Kiwi Shoe Polish at February 11, 2019 05:55 PM (gkstg)

251 221 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (dNzKv)


Dude, don't DO that! I thought I was sucked into a time vortex...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:55 PM (/9p9e)

252 237 Dylan Roof
Nidal Hassan
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (Kpl3J)

Insanity?

Posted by: m at February 11, 2019 05:55 PM (hl9+B)

253 Copy/paste fail

Posted by: Kiwi Shoe Polish at February 11, 2019 05:55 PM (gkstg)

254 The left wing pussie gov of NJ just declared a State Of Emergency AGAIN for the shittly little snow storm we MAY be getting overnight? What a pussy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:55 PM (bim/x)

255 I've never heard of a case where a man tries to kill the baby but not "that lyin' bitch who swore to me that she was on the pill".

Used to happen more often back before Roe V Wade, the old staircase special. Keep the girl, battered a bit, but dump the baby.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:55 PM (39g3+)

256 Encourage your liberal friends to watch it. If you can get them to do so, we may yet turn such lunacy around.
Posted by: BetaPhi at February 11, 2019 05:18 PM (hGNrS)

It was great. My beloved Andrew Klavan did a masterful job of writing the script. Not preachy but he got the point across powerfully.

One of the most impactful scenes is when Searcy's lawyer characters was interviewing the high class abortionist.

If you haven't already, you should watch it.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 05:55 PM (9hauA)

257 239 THE LAW IS THE LAW!
Posted by: Mario Koomoe at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (kSq2k)


"The House of Pain!"

- - Bela Lugosi, Island of Lost Souls

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (/9p9e)

258
In her "apology" to Jews and AIPAC for using their Jew Dollars to buy Government, Omar reaffirms her pledge to fight against corruptible lobbys such as the NRA...

and AIPAC.


I shit you not. That's what she said in her apology.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (Cadn7)

259 Maybe all the current baby-killing loveparade is actually the revenge of the democraps against the Gosnell film makers

-
I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (+y/Ru)

260 They weren't able to charge the psycho with murder in that case either.
Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (BD/yx)

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Nope. NY and VA were well behind CO in the "whack that little fucker whenever the mood strikes you" mass murder sweepstakes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (AzW6q)

261 Too damn sad too damn mad to comment.

Posted by: Publius Erectius Ignoramus (formerly functionally erect) at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (qdINy)

262 "cruel and unusual" was originally understood to mean no drawing and quartering, no breaking on the wheel, no iron maidens (air guitar riff there!) and none of the other really messed up ways that English and other Euro's used to execute people whenever they got bored. When you're going to execute someone, just do it quickly and cleanly. At least that's my motto.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (Kpl3J)

263 I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this, but if we fall, you'll be next and you won't last half as long. The Methodists, Presbyterians and Anglicans have all succumbed, as have a number of Lutheran denominations. The Southern Baptists are starting to feel pressure.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 05:48 PM (cfSRQ)

More than political pressure on the Southern Baptists: check out the large report in the Houston Chronicle on sexual predation.

It's fine, though. Just as the end of the Catholic Church in America won't even end American Catholicism, much less the global church, the Christian religion will long outlive this version of the United States.

Posted by: trev006 at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (Prldh)

264 .....who was also his secret lover

Posted by: Bicentennialguy


Pretty sure that was the Pilot Episode for that show.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (2eKoI)

265 241 Pretty soon it will be the baby's fault somehow. Next step.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 11, 2019 05:54 PM (m1xkc)


Zy-Scape-Goat...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (/9p9e)

266 257 239 THE LAW IS THE LAW!
Posted by: Mario Koomoe at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (kSq2k)


"The House of Pain!"

- - Bela Lugosi, Island of Lost Souls
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (/9p9e)

Pack it up, pack it in
Let me begin
I came to win
Battle me that's a sin
I won't tear the sack up
Punk you'd better back up
Try and play the role and the whole crew will act up

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (NWiLs)

267 New Jersey is a state of emergency amirite?

Posted by: eleven at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (NLLmE)

268 I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this, but if we fall, you'll be next


No, we're not.

Biblically speaking, Christians should prepare for persecution to ramp up as the years go on. It's not going to get better. Not till Jesus returns.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (aZZa7)

269 Zombie, you'd be assaulting the coed.

Posted by: m at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (hl9+B)

270 Dylan Roof
Nidal Hassan
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (Kpl3J)

Insanity?

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Evil.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (+y/Ru)

271 They are going after Protestants. Just had a huge investigation of the Southern Baptists where they investigated sexual crimes over a 20 year period. Or maybe it was covertly sponsored by the Catholic Church. Who knows these days. I don't trust anyone.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (TD9KB)

272 In her "apology" to Jews and AIPAC for using their Jew Dollars to buy Government, Omar reaffirms her pledge to fight against corruptible lobbys such as the NRA...

and AIPAC.


I shit you not. That's what she said in her apology.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (Cadn7)

Apparently the dope is NOT aware t hat AIPAC dos NOT contribute to candidates or politicians.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (bim/x)

273

Steve King was stupid not to POUNCE on Omar and just hammer the shit out of her stupid terrorist-scarf covered head.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (Cadn7)

274 266 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (NWiLs)


Um, the movie. Not Beto's relatives...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (/9p9e)

275 What really chafes my butt is that the "cruel and unusual punishment" clause was directly aimed at "drawing and quartering" which was a punishment meted out to those who were alleged to have committed treason against the crown. So a simple execution was judged to be the same as torturing someone for several hours prior to cutting out their intestines and beheading them.

Posted by: Vic at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (mpXpK)


What annoys me is that no punishment is innately cruel and unusual. It is in relation to the crime committed. Of course, it's cruel and unusual to jail someone for 5 years for stealing a stick of chewing gum, but only in the wildly disproportionate relationship between the crime and punishment.

Drawing and quartering is a perfectly reasonable punishment for someone who drew and quartered an innocent victim.

Reciprocity dictates what is fair and what is just. Reciprocity is the very foundation of fairness, and every human knows this intuitively. And with a crime there is a punishment added to the reciprocity (since the criminal forced his actions on the victim).

The SCOTUS has the reasoning ability of a 9th grade girl, generally. Most of our judges are pretty awful, which is why it ticks me off so completely that they are never even threatened with impeachment for being total anti-Constitutionalists and idiots, while they have lifetime appointments. It's just crazy.

The Founders really shit the bed on this one - lifetime appointments don't remove politics from decisions, it makes those in such positions more brazen and nakedly political.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (XZlDP)

276 Sure, it would be fun and satisfying to issue a Bull of Excommunication, but would it actually accomplish anything?

Just obeying God's will. This isn't about pragmatism, its about discipline in the church. Keys of the kingdom, guarding communion and all that, stuff the Bible orders church leadership to do, to their and the church's peril. The church should never, ever make a decision about moral and church issues based on "will this work" or "what will this accomplish" but rather "is this God's will?" If its the right thing to do, then do it and be ready to face the consequences.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (39g3+)

277 Heard a snipped of the idiot groveling Northam interview.


Not clear how it is I can be any further shocked or appalled at anything happening in the US, but to hear a governor doing the Stalin show trial confession - to this vile idiotic racist lunacy of "white privilege" - actually further reduced my respect for the country.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (QDnY+)

278 >> "cruel and unusual" was originally understood to mean no drawing and quartering, no breaking on the wheel, no iron maidens (air guitar riff there!) and none of the other really messed up ways that English and other Euro's used to execute people



'I just want to see your blood
I just want to stand and stare

See the blood begin to flow
as it falls upon the floor

Iron Maiden can't be fought
Iron Maiden can't be sought'

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (/wAOm)

279 Here in Cali, one MUST foster before one can adopt, and if in the next five years Meth-Head Mom went through rehab and says she wants her baby back, tough.

Most people who take part in the Foster program are just there for the state babysitting money.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 11, 2019 05:44 PM (ujg0T)

We had friends whose child was given back to the Tribe and the guy was some loser and the kid went to the Grandparents.

The price of adopting in the US is more expensive than going overseas and adopting and it's permanent.

Hell in India it's way way cheaper to use rent a womb where they just implant your eggs into young woman who then lives in a dormitory until the Baby is born.

Yes I looked into it because we were looking into invertro and our last shot took thank God.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 11, 2019 05:59 PM (dKiJG)

280 224 I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this

No, not enjoying it. Finding it unsurprising, but not enjoying it. Because the same legal attacks on Roman Catholics are on Protestants right now. Any ruling against a bunch of Nuns is also a ruling against a Pizza place.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:50 PM (39g3+)

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As a protestant, no, I'm not enjoying this.

Catholic, Protestant, makes no difference to the left.

Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 05:59 PM (RU4sa)

281 I would argue the Catholic Church has already been
co-opted into the Hive. At least at every leadership level that
matters. It might as well be the Southern Poverty Law Center.



As a Protestant, I honestly take no pleasure in it. It's devastating in fact. Christians can't afford to be divided right now.



I will say rank and file American Catholics are partly to blame
though for not standing up to leadership, but that's sort of part of the
Theology to always fall in line.

Posted by: Blago at February 11, 2019 05:52 PM (UfkIY)

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Even Francis hasn't given an inch of ground on the right to life.

The Church goes through cycles, just like every other human institution. Success breeds complacency which breeds decline and ultimately crisis.

But crisis can bring renewal and resurgence, and that's the historical pattern with the Church.

The good news is that at long last the corruption is out in the open where it can be identified and corrected. But it's going to be a long fight and not for the faint of heart.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 05:59 PM (cfSRQ)

282 237 I'm still sort of up in the air about the death penalty, because it's a lot more complicated than abortion, but I got cleared up on the simple one during college."

For most crimes, I can see the argument for some level of mercy, but when the crime is truly heinous, and there is no conceivable doubt about guilt, then no, I don't think there's any good argument against it.

Best current example - ask a good, dedicated leftist who is against the D.P. why he thinks Dylan Roof, a white supremacist who murdered 9 completely innocent black worshippers in cold blood, and for no reason other than his own hatred, should be given room and board for life.

For bonus points, bring up Nidal Hassan, who murdered 13 people at Ft. Hood because they weren't Muslims, and who openly says he would gladly do it again if he ever got the chance. What's the reason for keeping him around again?
Posted by: Tom Servo


Best counter0example of all:

Anders Breivik murdered 77 teenage socialists in Norway, got convicted, and was sentenced to (not kidding) 21 years in prison, which is the maximum allowable sentence in Norway. And the prison, by all accounts, is like a 4-star resort, with private rooms, saunas, hot tubes, massage therapists, classes, meditation sessions, etc. He could get out in 10 and a half years, or be kept for an absolute maximum of 26 years if he commits further crimes in prison. Max.

Justify THAT, lefties.

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 06:00 PM (c+2jX)

283 Because that's where this is headed. If Cuomo is excommunicated, the Dems will refuse to confirm another Catholic judge on the grounds that fear of excommunication would destroy their impartiality.

And hence violate the constitution, which they are trying to do anyway, so I don't know where you're going with this. You figure the Democrats would agree to ANY choice by a Republican president if only nobody was excommunicated???

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 06:00 PM (39g3+)

284 "I have a special spike made of acid-coated hornets to ram through his entire body stem to stern and roast him over lava for when we give him a break from the REAL misery."
--Satan laughing, spreads his wings
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Which requires the Oblig. post of the thing that caused me to laugh the first time after 9/11:

https://tinyurl.com/Hijackers-in-Hell

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 06:00 PM (2eKoI)

285 274 266 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (NWiLs)


Um, the movie. Not Beto's relatives...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (/9p9e)

I came to get down.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 06:00 PM (NWiLs)

286 Trump did say doody though

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2019 06:00 PM (qCnHp)

287 Androoling Coma will be subbing for Ted Kennedy someday soon.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 11, 2019 06:00 PM (Pby3z)

288 This is all so tragic and truly appalling. When we've come to a point where people in this country applaud and smile at the killing of innocent life, we're screwed. On the other hand, the devil always overplays his hand so sadly, this may be the only way to wake up normal, sane people on who and what the Democratic party really is.

Posted by: Cheri at February 11, 2019 06:00 PM (oiNtH)

289 hot tubes

Hot tubes in prison. Oooooh.

Posted by: Shep Smith at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM (c+2jX)

290 'I just want to see your blood
I just want to stand and stare

See the blood begin to flow
as it falls upon the floor

Iron Maiden can't be fought
Iron Maiden can't be sought'



Iron Maiden - gonna getcha wherever you are
Iron Maiden - gonna getcha, how near or how far (bangs head)

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM (talIc)

291 271 They are going after Protestants. Just had a huge investigation of the Southern Baptists where they investigated sexual crimes over a 20 year period. Or maybe it was covertly sponsored by the Catholic Church. Who knows these days. I don't trust anyone.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (TD9KB)


---

The guy who heads the Southern Baptist Convention is a LGBT aficionado and ecumenical up the wazoo.

Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM (RU4sa)

292 258
In her "apology" to Jews and AIPAC for using their Jew Dollars to buy Government, Omar reaffirms her pledge to fight against corruptible lobbys such as the NRA...

and AIPAC.


I shit you not. That's what she said in her apology.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter



This gal is an absolute gem!! I hope she keeps talking. There is no way that inner burning rage will be kept under wraps. She can't help her self. No Dems, she is YOUR Hate-machine that YOU created. Congrats!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM (aZZa7)

293 It's a hard rain gonna fall.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM (LpoXC)

294 267 New Jersey is a state of emergency amirite?
Posted by: eleven at February 11, 2019 05:57 PM (NLLmE)

Oh, for about 75 years now.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 11, 2019 06:02 PM (RD7QR)

295 The guy who heads the Southern Baptist Convention is a LGBT aficionado and ecumenical up the wazoo.
Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM (RU4sa)

Like I said, I don't trust anyone. Hate to live that way but...

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 06:02 PM (TD9KB)

296 Well, it was his choice after all and a person's choice is their truth which shall not be infringed upon.

Posted by: inflammable at February 11, 2019 06:03 PM (qQWOK)

297 SCREAM FOR ME LONG BEACH!

Posted by: Bruce Dickinson at February 11, 2019 06:03 PM (/wAOm)

298 As a protestant, no, I'm not enjoying this.

Catholic, Protestant, makes no difference to the left.

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Damn straight, make no mistake about it - whether you are Catholic, Protestant, non-denominational Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or a rock-worshipping African deist, an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us.

All of it is in service of the ultimate Leftist goal of killing G-d and elevating the State and Party to his throne.

The only religion they tolerate is Islam, for politically expedient reasons, and as soon as they do away with the rest of us, they'll come for that too.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 06:03 PM (AzW6q)

299 257 239 THE LAW IS THE LAW!
Posted by: Mario Koomoe at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (kSq2k)


"The House of Pain!"

- - Bela Lugosi, Island of Lost Souls
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (/9p9e)


Not eat meat, that is the Law!

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 11, 2019 06:03 PM (di1hb)

300 295 The guy who heads the Southern Baptist Convention is a LGBT aficionado and ecumenical up the wazoo.
Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM (RU4sa)

Like I said, I don't trust anyone. Hate to live that way but...
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 11, 2019 06:02 PM (TD9KB)

----

I trust the Lord.

But yeah, anything human or manmade, verify first.

Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 06:03 PM (RU4sa)

301 252 237 Dylan Roof
Nidal Hassan
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 05:53 PM (Kpl3J)

Insanity?

People who don't want to admit to the existence of Evil like to make the insanity claim - because to accept that those two men (and others who carefully and deliberately do horrible things, like Ted Bundy or Stephen Paddock) are sane overturns their entire worldview.

But look at the facts - Both Dylan Roof and Nidal Hassan, (and Paddock and Bundy and many others of that type) carefully planned their deeds in advance, took care to gather weapons, took care to make sure their victims would be vulnerable, made sure that no one would stop them, and at all points were very clear in their own minds about what they were about to do.

That's not insanity; those perpetrators were completely sane. That is simply pure Evil. Our ancestors knew that, and knew how to deal with it. How come so many of us don't????

(btw, I've seen fuzzy headed people wonder why Ted Bundy and other serial killers do what they do. I want to shout at them, "It ain't hard to figure out! They do it because killing people, to them, is the most fun thing they have ever done in their lives!!! And that's why they ain't ever gonna quit, unless we MAKE them quit! By Killing Them!!!)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 06:03 PM (Kpl3J)

302 Apparently the dope is NOT aware t hat AIPAC dos NOT contribute to candidates or politicians.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (bim/x)



American Israel Political Action Committee does not? What do they do instead then? (this is NOT an attack on AIPAC, far from it, but I thought that was what PACs were all about).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (ujg0T)

303 Fuck excommunicate. Assholes like that need to visited by the Knight Templars.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (9Om/r)

304 For bonus points, bring up Nidal Hassan, who murdered 13 people at Ft. Hood because they weren't Muslims, and who openly says he would gladly do it again if he ever got the chance. What's the reason for keeping him around again?
__________________

The feds managed to dispatch the OK bomber McVeigh to his just reward in pretty good time. It's likely that Hassan is dragging his proceedings out, despite his supposed desire to get his 72 raisins in heaven. He gets to live in a relatively cushy federal prison (with all sorts of special protections, due to his self-inflicted disability), he's still drawing his M.D. Army paycheck, and he gets to mock the stupid Americans who were dumb enough to let this vicious viper live among us.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (fqUgw)

305 so, lets go the New York where killing the unborn is just A-OK

Posted by: Democrats be the KKK at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (Wa5hI)

306 I don't think the guillotine is cruel. Quick and pretty much foolproof. Cheap and terrifying too.

Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (UdKB7)

307 Omar reaffirms her pledge to fight against corruptible lobbys such as the NRA...

and AIPAC.


On The Onion today:

"Ilhan Omar Thankful For Colleagues Educating Her On Painful History AIPAC Lobbyists Have Had To Endure"

Because that's the real story here. How bad those Joo lobbyists are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (39g3+)

308 Boom

Apparently two of Fairfax's staffers have resigned.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (1pz14)

309 The only religion they tolerate is Islam, for politically expedient reasons, and as soon as they do away with the rest of us, they'll come for that too.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

That's what they think.

Posted by: Mohammad al Mohammed bin Muhammad at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (gkstg)

310 The only religion they tolerate is Islam, for politically expedient reasons, and as soon as they do away with the rest of us, they'll come for that too.
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The only problem with that is that islam sees themselves as the victor, and won't bend to the progs.

So expect to see lots of gays being pushed off buildings and women in headscarves claiming they are liberated.

Posted by: shibumi, on wedding countdown at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (u0hpX)

311 The only religion they tolerate is Islam, for politically expedient reasons, and as soon as they do away with the rest of us, they'll come for that too.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 06:03 PM (AzW6q)


I suggest they pack a lunch ... it's gonna' be an all day affair.

Posted by: GoldDust at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (/VASf)

312 American Israel Political Action Committee does not? What do they do instead then? (this is NOT an attack on AIPAC, far from it, but I thought that was what PACs were all about).
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (ujg0T)

they don't have a PAC. They promote relations between Israel and the US and positions but NOT individual candidates

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (bim/x)

313 142 In the current legal climate, Gosnell wouldn't even be shut down.Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:31 PM (39g3+)

That's the scariest thing I think I've ever read on this blog, and that's saying a lot.
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Both of these things are true

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (qCnHp)

314
OT:

When does the PDT rally in El Paso start?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (/9p9e)

315 Hot tubes in prison. Oooooh.
Posted by: Shep Smith at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM

Are you out of your fucking mind?
Richard II

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (zmIJL)

316 290 'I just want to see your blood
I just want to stand and stare

See the blood begin to flow
as it falls upon the floor

Iron Maiden can't be fought
Iron Maiden can't be sought'



Iron Maiden - gonna getcha wherever you are
Iron Maiden - gonna getcha, how near or how far (bangs head)
Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:01 PM (talIc)

Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of

Posted by: josephistan at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (Izzlo)

317 http://bit.ly/2Bw4Rma
************
9th Circuit (WAIT THE 9TH CIRCUS) Sides With Trump On Environmental Waivers For Border Wall | The Daily Caller

Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (BqBId)

318 97 SCREAM FOR ME LONG BEACH!

...

Excellent!

Posted by: Ha at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (pwKyE)

319 Another reason not to visit the State......

Thanks Governor Magilla Gorilla!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (Z+IKu)

320 Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.
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This is apparently a thing now. We should start a dead pool on how long it'll be before the phony hate crimes start up.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (hjaPQ)

321 The church should never, ever make a decision about
moral and church issues based on "will this work" or "what will this
accomplish" but rather "is this God's will?" If its the right thing to
do, then do it and be ready to face the consequences.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 05:58 PM (39g3+)

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So you presume to know God's will? Please share it with me, particularly His will regarding March Madness.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (cfSRQ)

322 Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of
Posted by: josephistan at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (Izzlo)
*****
Black Sabbath

Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (BqBId)

323 Has Senator Frau Blucher from Minnesota spoken out against Omar?

Posted by: Avi at February 11, 2019 06:07 PM (kSq2k)

324 American Israel Political Action Committee does not? What do they do instead then? (this is NOT an attack on AIPAC, far from it, but I thought that was what PACs were all about).
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (ujg0T)

they don't have a PAC. They promote relations between Israel and the US and positions but NOT individual candidates
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (bim/x)

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/02/aipac-dont-contribute-which-pro-israel-groups-do/

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:07 PM (bim/x)

325 >>Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of


Sabbath

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 06:07 PM (/wAOm)

326 As someone who was raised Catholic, I think the Church should state their positions, but otherwise stay out of it.
Just like I feel about a woman who aborts, I feel the same way about Cuomo and the rest of them.
God will sort it out.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2019 06:07 PM (438dO)

327 Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of

Posted by: josephistan at February 11, 2019 06:05 PM (Izzlo)


Bob Dole named his album and first single after himself.

Posted by: Bob Dole at February 11, 2019 06:07 PM (XZlDP)

328
When does the PDT rally in El Paso start?

I dunno, probably 8pm local time.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:07 PM (Cadn7)

329
An evangelical Christian minister beats his pregnant mistress to cause a miscarriage, blames it on a black gay man.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 05:39 PM (NWiLs)

His best friend growing up was Donald J Brump, a billionaire real estate developer who became NY governor. And the twist at the end is Brump is the black guy's gay lover. Cuz....hypocrisy.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 11, 2019 06:07 PM (lcEkv)

330 So you presume to know God's will? Please share it with me, particularly His will regarding March Madness.

Um, are you familiar with the Bible? Check it out some time. Lots of info in there from God. Reveals His will. I encourage a read.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 06:07 PM (39g3+)

331 My dear wonderful and amazing friend lives in NYC. She's a Christian and not political, just kind of liberal by default. She told me that she really wants to talk about abortion today. I wonder if she is grieved by this law and just wants to talk about it.

I really hope this time, these people have gone so far that the tide will start to turn.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (9hauA)

332 9th Circuit (WAIT THE 9TH CIRCUS) Sides With Trump On Environmental Waivers For Border Wall | The Daily Caller
Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (BqBId)

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Three judge panel, 2-1.

Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (RU4sa)

333 Maiden and Sabbath are prolly my top 2 bands.

Posted by: Ha at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (pwKyE)

334

Rally starts at 7pm local time, 8pm our time.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (Cadn7)

335 320 It would be easy for a death threat to get posted along wouldn't it?

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (/rm4P)

336 When we've come to a point where people in this country applaud and smile at the killing of innocent life, we're screwed.
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Call it an early lynching. Democrats don't change.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (qCnHp)

337
Keep in mind that these people that have no qualm about killing a innocent newborn are the same people who will fight like hell to prevent an execution of a convicted murderer.

Posted by: YIKES! at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (t6XCL)

338 330 So you presume to know God's will? Please share it with me, particularly His will regarding March Madness.

Um, are you familiar with the Bible? Check it out some time. Lots of info in there from God. Reveals His will. I encourage a read.


specifically about march madness, i'm pretty sure sycacuse is one of the heads of the beast.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (v3pYe)

339 I really hope this time, these people have gone so far that the tide will start to turn.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (9hauA)

Don't hold your breath

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (bim/x)

340 Rally is 9pm EST

Posted by: Ha at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (pwKyE)

341 So you presume to know God's will? Please share it with me, particularly His will regarding March Madness.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (cfSRQ)


I find your outlook terribly narrow. What about the Kentucky Derby ? NBA Playoffs ? Golf ? All fine wagering opportunities ... for entertainment of course.

Posted by: GoldDust at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (/VASf)

342 WaPo's SCOTUS reporter is now claiming he personally saw RBG at her daughters music recital a week or so ago. It was after dark and no one was carrying garlic, so maybe....

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comics at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (LISuA)

343 So you presume to know God's will? Please share it with me, particularly His will regarding March Madness.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd


Syracuse to at least the Sweet 16.

Posted by: God at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (NLLmE)

344 Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath

The greatest album ever made.

Bar none.

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (/wAOm)

345 OMG - From the Babylon Bee:

Confronted With Details Of Green New Deal, Ocasio Cortez Claims Not To Speak English

http://tinyurl.com/y23z28yv

Posted by: josephistan at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (Izzlo)

346 Cool, so El Paso Rally at 6 mountain time!

I can stay up for it LOL

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (talIc)

347 I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this, but if we fall, you'll be next


I'm not; I consider RC's my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2019 06:10 PM (AllCR)

348
7pm "mountain" time.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:10 PM (Cadn7)

349 Congressional aids for Democrats are flocking to Ilan Omar's office to leave sticky-notes of support on her office door.
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This is apparently a thing now. We should start a dead pool on how long it'll be before the phony hate crimes start up.

-
Jews are the canary in the coal mine and what's happening doesn't look good for us.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 11, 2019 06:10 PM (+y/Ru)

350 I'd go with Master of Reality as favorite Sabs album.

Very short album but all killer, no filler.

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:10 PM (talIc)

351 Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of
Posted by: josephistan


The Monkees

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 06:10 PM (c+2jX)

352 Rally Starts: 7pm Mountain Standard (9pm EST).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (AzW6q)

353
My dear wonderful and amazing friend lives in NYC. She's a Christian and
not political, just kind of liberal by default. She told me that she
really wants to talk about abortion today. I wonder if she is grieved by
this law and just wants to talk about it.

I really hope this time, these people have gone so far that the tide will start to turn.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (9hauA)


If you feel like it, would you mind sharing her thoughts?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (ptqGC)

354 The second charge was not for murder; New York law, I guess, never allowed for that.

OK. So knock off a couple of volts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (YqDXo)

355 Call it an early lynching. Democrats don't change.
________________

Thank goodness! At least someone understands why we need to rid our society of these undesirable types!

I can't do everything for you people!

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (fqUgw)

356 9 est or 6 mountain?


Can't be both.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (lcEkv)

357
Wait, is Central time different from Mountain time?

So 7pm Mountain time is -2 hours Real Time, or Eastern Time.

Okay, so 9pm our time.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (Cadn7)

358 Cool, so El Paso Rally at 6 mountain time!

I can stay up for it LOL
Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (talIc)

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Nope! 7 MST.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (AzW6q)

359 Most under rated Sabbath album?

Born Again.

Posted by: Ha at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (pwKyE)

360
See how stupid time zones are?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (Cadn7)

361 347 I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this, but if we fall, you'll be next
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I don't think a lot of Protestants "enjoy" this at all.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (hjaPQ)

362 Laters y'all...

*walks away, shaking her head sadly*

Posted by: SMH at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (RU4sa)

363 specifically about march madness, i'm pretty sure sycacuse is one of the heads of the beast.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (v3pYe)


John Calipari at Kentucky is one of the signs and portents, if I remember Sunday School correctly.

Posted by: GoldDust at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (/VASf)

364 I would have hoped that Roman Catholics would have been a rock to stand against runaway abortion laws.
But know Leftism has infiltrated Christianity.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (/rm4P)

365 356 9 est or 6 mountain?


Can't be both.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (lcEkv)

Overruled!

Posted by: Random Hawaiian Judge at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (Izzlo)

366 Wtf our local TV news is doing a story on lynchings.

Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2019 06:13 PM (UdKB7)

367 Mentioned it before but I will never, ever forget IM encoring with their self-titled tune to close out the show I caught on their very first US tour.

Whole crowd on their feet, screaming along like crazy people, hair flying, sweat flying. It was glorious. Most of the audience had never even heard them before. Magic was in the air that night.

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:13 PM (talIc)

368
I'm sure a lot of Protestants are enjoying this, but if we fall, you'll be next and you won't last half as long.


Enjoy seeing fellow Americans be forced to kill babies by the government and the Moloch worshipping demons?

No, asshole. We do not "enjoy" it.

Posted by: mikeyG at February 11, 2019 06:13 PM (LL1Be)

369 357
Wait, is Central time different from Mountain time?

So 7pm Mountain time is -2 hours Real Time, or Eastern Time.

Okay, so 9pm our time.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (Cadn7)

Eastern (real time)
Central = Eastern - 1
Mountain = Eastern - 2
Pacific = Eastern - 3

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 06:13 PM (NWiLs)

370 Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of
Posted by: josephistan

The Monkees

Beatles.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (Pby3z)

371 Jews are the canary in the coal mine and what's happening doesn't look good for us.
________________

We conservatives have your backs, but it would help a lot if you Jews would stop voting for the people who want you dead!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (fqUgw)

372 The only religion they tolerate is Islam, for politically expedient reasons, and as soon as they do away with the rest of us, they'll come for that too.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 06:03 PM (AzW6q)

No, they tolerate Islam because they are SCARED of Islam.

Moslems will fight for their beliefs... actual fighting. They will kill you.

There is no other modern religion who will do that.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (NgKpN)

373
VA Governor is a doctor? I guess he was out the day that they recited the Hippocratic Oath.
Posted by: Cheri at February 11, 2019 05:14 PM (oiNtH)

Wait. I thought they said it was the Hypocritic Oath.

Posted by: Dr. Howard-Fine-Howard Northam at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (ABjxW)

374 370

He was talking about real music.

Posted by: Ha at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (pwKyE)

375 And while your at it , AH Lloyd, you might want to see about having that giant chip on your shoulder removed.

It's blocking your vision.

Posted by: mikeyG at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (LL1Be)

376 Born Again.
Posted by: Ha at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (pwKyE)

Very under-rated. That stupid cover has colored perceptions from the day it was released.

Ever heard the old joke? Ian Gillan woke up with a collosal hangover and said "I joined Black fucking SABBATH last night?"

But I thought he did a hell of a job (pun intended.)

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (talIc)

377 A coworker just announced she's pregnant. I advised her not to cross over into NY, where they can kick her in the belly with immunity.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (7PllL)

378 370 Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of
Posted by: josephistan

The Monkees

Beatles.
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (Pby3z)

The Beatles didn't have a self-titled song

Posted by: josephistan at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (Izzlo)

379 Fun fact....distance between El Paso and LA is less than El Paso and Beaumont, TX

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (lcEkv)

380 Boom

Apparently two of Fairfax's staffers have resigned.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2019 06:04 PM (1pz14)
........

Rats. Sinking ship. Some disassembly required.

Posted by: wth at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (v0R5T)

381 "There is no other modern religion who will do that. "

It's more of a cult.

Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (UdKB7)

382 Drawing and quartering is a perfectly reasonable punishment for someone who drew and quartered an innocent victim. "

Well, this points out the problem with it when it was in use - a mass murderer could commit unspeakable murders, but as long as they were against poor people (back in the day) he would only be hanged. Drawing and Quartering was specially reserved for Crimes against the King, such as Treason and Counterfeiting. (really) The idea was to Scare the Hell out of Everyone who even thought about committing a crime against the Crown. This was a punishment meted out by the Powerful against their personal enemies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (Kpl3J)

383 O/T Which moron was it who predicted that Northam would go after Confederate monuments as a response to his blackface stuff? Ding, ding, ding we have a winner. He's going to "take a harder line" on statues that provoke this much "hate". He states that they must be put in museums instead.

Posted by: squeakywheel at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (muUop)

384 370 Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of
Posted by: josephistan

The Monkees

Beatles.
Posted by: Joe Mama


The Beatles never performed a song called "The Beatles." So they are not on the list.

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (c+2jX)

385 > So you presume to know God's will?

Amos 3:7 "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets"

Posted by: bonhomme at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (zGsgt)

386 Hey hey we're the Beatles. People say we Beatle arou---nope. Never heard it.

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:16 PM (talIc)

387 Someone needs to yank Cuomo's balls out through his ass with a pair of forceps. For the children.

Posted by: Roy at February 11, 2019 06:16 PM (ABjxW)

388 Moslems will fight for their beliefs... actual fighting. They will kill you.

There is no other modern religion who will do that.
Posted by: Don Q.

Whatever the religion those people in Myanmar are seem to be doing a good job.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 11, 2019 06:16 PM (gkstg)

389 it would help a lot if you Jews would stop voting for the people who want you dead!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (fqUgw)

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:16 PM (bim/x)

390 384 370 Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of
Posted by: josephistan

The Monkees

Beatles.
Posted by: Joe Mama

The Beatles never performed a song called "The Beatles." So they are not on the list.
Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (c+2jX)

Hey hey we're the Beatles
And people say we Beatle around
But we're too busy trippin'
To lay any more tracks down

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 06:16 PM (NWiLs)

391 Northam will only kill white babies now as a penance dor his kkk photo

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 11, 2019 06:17 PM (lcEkv)

392 King Crimson came close with "In the Court of the Crimson King" (song and album title)

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:17 PM (talIc)

393 379 Fun fact....distance between El Paso and LA is less than El Paso and Beaumont, TX"

Tell me about it - I've driven it!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 06:17 PM (Kpl3J)

394 I think 24-7 Spyz had an LP called 24-7 Spyz Harder Than You.

... which had songs titled 24-7 Syz and Harder Than You.

Did the Bosstones have an eponymous song?

Tomahawk?

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 06:17 PM (/wAOm)

395 Rally is 9pm EST
Posted by: Ha at February 11, 2019 06:09 PM (pwKyE)

-----------------------------

Hopefully Fox will cover it and blow off Hannity.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 11, 2019 06:17 PM (ffYR/)

396 Other self-titled songs:

Sweet Baby James
The Monkees Theme
Stray Cat Shuffle
and
The Ballad of John and Y***

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 11, 2019 06:18 PM (Ndje9)

397 The Beatles didn't have a self-titled song
Posted by: josephistan

Just their as their alias:
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 11, 2019 06:18 PM (Pby3z)

398 See how stupid time zones are?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (Cadn7)
..........

Talked about stupid. I thought I'd outsmart everyone and not switch my clocks back on daylight savings. I'm still confused exactly when I can start drinking.

Posted by: wth at February 11, 2019 06:18 PM (v0R5T)

399 King Crimson came close with "In the Court of the Crimson King" (song and album title)

Great song by a great band.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 06:18 PM (39g3+)

400 Hopefully Fox will cover it and blow off Hannity.
---
Oh, puh-leeze.

Posted by: Shemp Smith at February 11, 2019 06:18 PM (hjaPQ)

401 389 it would help a lot if you Jews would stop voting for the people who want you dead!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (fqUgw)

Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:16 PM (bim/x)

It's not an unfair point, though I recognize there is a difference between being merely culturally Jewish and a practicing religious Jew. The break for Dems among self-identified American Jews is, to my understanding, around 70%.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 06:19 PM (NWiLs)

402 Maiden was one of the few bands to have a self-titled album & a self-titled song. Bad Company is the only other one I can think of
Posted by: josephistan

The Monkees

Beatles.
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM



Bo Diddley, ftw!

It's like you morons aren't even 29 yet.

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2019 06:19 PM (786Ro)

403 Moslems will fight for their beliefs... actual fighting. They will kill you.

There is no other modern religion who will do that.
Posted by: Don Q. at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (NgKpN)

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Moslems tolerate the Left, because the Left is useful to them. The Left tolerates the Moslems for the same reason.

If the Moslems were saying (right now) "We love Trump, and we hate the idolators of the Left. Kill Democrats and Make America Great Again *loud ululation*," Antifa would be outside of mosques beating people with bike locks.

The Left, particularly its leadership, doesn't know fear, only aggression and victory. This is foolish - they should be afraid of Moslems, and they should be afraid of me - but it is the case. They only know to move the ball downfield by any means necessary, and they see Islam as an ally at this time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 06:19 PM (AzW6q)

404 399 King Crimson came close with "In the Court of the Crimson King" (song and album title)

Great song by a great band.


5.1 mixes came up earlier today.

The surround sound on that one - it sounds like Robert Fripp just plopped down next to you on the sofa with his guitar. Amazing.

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2019 06:19 PM (talIc)

405 >>Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band

Those guys were fags.

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2019 06:19 PM (/wAOm)

406 Bo Diddley, ftw!

It's like you morons aren't even 29 yet.
Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2019 06:19 PM (786Ro)

Just 22 and I don't mind dyin'.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (NWiLs)

407
Posted by: squeakywheel at February 11, 2019 06:15 PM (muUop)

I think that a few of us predicted that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (AllCR)

408 owa Democratic leaders Monday announced a new option for registered party members to take part in Caucus night. The plan calls for a virtual caucus that will take place over several nights leading up to the precinct caucuses that will be accessible by phone and by smartphone app

LOL...what could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (bim/x)

409 Obama opened this can of worms. The most pro-abortion president in my time.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 05:34 PM (ptqGC)

Pity Stanley Anne never got one.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (nPGq2)

410 Bo Diddley, ftw!

It's like you morons aren't even 29 yet.
Posted by: Hands


Good one! Excellent memory. +1000

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (c+2jX)

411 Bo Diddley - ftw!

It's like you morons aren't even 29 yet.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (/wAOm)

412 https://youtu.be/lJj22Z006ec

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (786Ro)

413 Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (9hauA)

If you feel like it, would you mind sharing her thoughts?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2019 06:11 PM (ptqGC)

I think I could probably give a brief summary. I'm talking to her later tonight. I just thought it was weird for her to insist I should call her back to discuss this. She does not like abortion, so I'm thinking her desire to discuss it relatively urgently must mean something is bothering her. It could be the NY law, but maybe it is something else.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (9hauA)

414 I wondered when this would come back to bite them on the rear.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (0QYMt)

415 >>Just 22 and I don't mind dyin'.


Just 18
Pickup truck
outta money
outta luck

Posted by: MOAR MAIDEN at February 11, 2019 06:21 PM (/wAOm)

416
My dear wonderful and amazing friend lives in NYC. She's a Christian and
not political, just kind of liberal by default. She told me that she
really wants to talk about abortion today. I wonder if she is grieved by
this law and just wants to talk about it.



I really hope this time, these people have gone so far that the tide will start to turn.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 06:08 PM (9hauA)

---
That's another important point that is getting lost in the demand for denunciation: the evil here speaks for itself.

BTW, I apologize for saying some Protestants are enjoying this, but it seems to me that people these days are all to eager to show their outrage by demanding that OTHER people join in their hate.

Cuomo's actions speak for themselves. The Church has clearly denounced him for what he has done, and other sanctions may yet come. This isn't over by any means.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 06:21 PM (cfSRQ)

417 Bo Diddley - ftw!

It's like you morons aren't even 29 yet.
Vagina.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 11, 2019 06:21 PM (gkstg)

418 Madness mentions their name in a song, plus they had two songs entitled Madness.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 06:21 PM (39g3+)

419 The break for Dems among self-identified American Jews is, to my understanding, around 70%."

I hate fucking Reform Jews! Except those hot young ones, if they can shut up for a few seconds.

Posted by: The Chimpanzee at February 11, 2019 06:21 PM (Kpl3J)

420 We conservatives have your backs, but it would help a lot if you Jews would stop voting for the people who want you dead!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 11, 2019 06:14 PM (fqUgw)



That IS one of the most maddening enigmas of American Politics.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (ujg0T)

421 If you count 'Fury of the Aquabats,' then....the Aquabats.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (oVJmc)

422 I can't believe I forgot Bo!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (Ndje9)

423 When you're going to execute someone, just do it quickly and cleanly. At least that's my motto.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2019 05:56 PM (Kpl3J)

---
Fuck yeah!!!

Posted by: Le Guillotine at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (lcEkv)

424 Moslems will fight for their beliefs... actual fighting. They will kill you.

Yes and we like to return the favor,,,well at least we used to. Where have you gone Ariel Sharon, a nations turns it's loney eyes to you

Posted by: IDF at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (bim/x)

425 Bo Diddley?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (/wAOm)

426 O/T Which moron was it who predicted that Northam would go after Confederate monuments as a response to his blackface stuff? Ding, ding, ding we have a winner. He's going to "take a harder line" on statues that provoke this much "hate". He states that they must be put in museums instead.

Posted by: squeakywheel

Might have been me, but I doubt I was alone.

He says 'we' a lot when assigning blame, like he has a rat in his pocket.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (FTlwv)

427 360


See how stupid time zones are?





Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:12 PM (Cadn7)

LOL. I just learned a couple weeks ago that the central part of Australia has a time zone on the 0:30 or the hour.
It's equivalent to:
Eastern: 9pmCentral: 8:30pmMountain: 7pm.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (8iiMU)

428 Big Country's biggest hit was "In a Big Country", so close.

But no eponymous album, unless greatest hits albums count (which shouldn't )

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (786Ro)

429 Baseball season start yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:23 PM (bim/x)

430 So under the new law, we are all abortionists now?

I actually didn't mind the WSJ article Cardinal Dolan wrote about the pushback on the new abortion laws/ infanticide. Now put your money where your mouth is, cardinal, and refuse these ppl communion.

The Museum of the City of New York (a really good museum if you have time) had an exhibit on rebel Victorian women. One of the ladies they highlighted was Madame Restell, the city's most notorious abortionist in that era. Her home was dubbed "the house built on baby skulls." They are not lying...

Posted by: LizLem at February 11, 2019 06:23 PM (hvf9s)

431 388 Moslems will fight for their beliefs... actual fighting. They will kill you.

There is no other modern religion who will do that.
Posted by: Don Q.

Whatever the religion those people in Myanmar are seem to be doing a good job.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 11, 2019 06:16 PM (gkstg)

Buddhist Priests revolted, mostly unarmed.


It didn't go well.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 11, 2019 06:24 PM (NgKpN)

432 O/T Which moron was it who predicted that Northam would go after Confederate monuments as a response to his blackface stuff? Ding, ding, ding we have a winner. He's going to "take a harder line" on statues that provoke this much "hate". He states that they must be put in museums instead.

Posted by: squeakywheel


Might have been me, but I doubt I was alone.

He says 'we' a lot when assigning blame, like he has a rat in his pocket.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM



At what point do they run out of monuments and start going after confederate tombstones?

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2019 06:24 PM (786Ro)

433 NOOD

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2019 06:24 PM (dUJdY)

434

nood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2019 06:25 PM (Cadn7)

435 Baseball season start yet?

Pitchers and catchers report starting.... tomorrow

Its coming, soon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2019 06:25 PM (39g3+)

436 419 Madness mentions their name in a song, plus they had two songs entitled Madness.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Strangely, their song "Madness" was NOT on their album called "Madness," but was on an earlier album.

Also, semi-disqualifying them: The song "madness" that they do is just a cover version of an old ska song, and so wasn't their own original song -- in fact, they named their band after the old song, so it's kind of cheating to include them on the list. It's equivalent of there being a Led Zep cover band that calls itself "Stairway to Heaven," because that's the signature song. Doesn't really count.

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2019 06:25 PM (c+2jX)

437 Know the Street

Posted by: Primal Rage at February 11, 2019 06:25 PM (FTPVM)

438 408 owa Democratic leaders Monday announced a new option for registered party members to take part in Caucus night. The plan calls for a virtual caucus that will take place over several nights leading up to the precinct caucuses that will be accessible by phone and by smartphone app

LOL...what could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2019 06:20 PM (bim/x)



I'm guessing it is being done so they can more easily rig the system. Don't want another Bernie Sanders victory or near victory where they have to do silly things like draw from a deck of cards to see who won the precinct.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 11, 2019 06:27 PM (y48hA)

439 Canada has a 1/2 hour timezone too. NEWFOUNDLAND is 30 mins ahead of Atlantic Time which is an hour ahead of EST.

Posted by: Le Guillotine at February 11, 2019 06:27 PM (lcEkv)

440 429 Baseball season start yet?
---
I read today that Kyler Murray is blowing off a $4.6 million bonus from the A's to enter the NFL draft.

He seems like a great guy and he's certainly a great athlete, but I have to question the wisdom of this decision. I hope it works out well for him.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 11, 2019 06:28 PM (hjaPQ)

441 Antifa would be outside of mosques beating people with bike locks.

Maybe once.

Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2019 06:28 PM (FhXTo)

442 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (8iiMU)

I believe Iranian time is also on the half hour.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 06:28 PM (9hauA)

443 429 Baseball season start yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup



The Pittsburgh Pirates have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 11, 2019 06:28 PM (aZZa7)

444 In the film Rumble in Cell Block 99, the entire motivation of the protagonist is protecting his unborn child from a sick doctor who plans to dismember the baby in the womb but leave it alive.

It's a really, really effective part of that movie.

Except if you're a NY legislator, apparently.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 11, 2019 06:29 PM (yL25O)

445 Bob Dylan had "Bob Dylan's Dream" and "Bob Dylan's 115th Dream".

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2019 06:29 PM (sdi6R)

446 If the Moslems were saying (right now) "We love Trump, and we hate the idolators of the Left. Kill Democrats and Make America Great Again *loud ululation*," Antifa would be outside of mosques beating people with bike locks.


Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2019 06:19 PM (AzW6q)


Sorry, I don't agree with this at all.


The Left only protests against 'safe' targets.


Anytime they are confronted with strength, they will back down.

You will note, that since folds like the Proud Boys started showing up, suddenly Antifa is no longer in the news.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 11, 2019 06:29 PM (NgKpN)

447 I can't actually get too upset about this.

Tenth Amendment. If New York voters want to legalize the slaughter of children, fine.

Just make sure Cuomo files an amicus brief seeking Gosnell's release, since he is no longer in violation of any NY laws.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 11, 2019 06:31 PM (vcatx)

448 442 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 11, 2019 06:22 PM (8iiMU)

I believe Iranian time is also on the half hour.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 11, 2019 06:28 PM (9hauA)


India time is too.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2019 06:32 PM (sdi6R)

449 King Crimson came close with "In the Court of the Crimson King" (song and album title)

Posted by: Sodom Chamber of Commerce


I'll allow it.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 11, 2019 06:33 PM (2eKoI)

450 Late Term Abortion - Now not just between a woman and her doctor, but any psycho who wants to kill.

Ask us about our new and improved post birth abortion...
Now not just between a woman and her doctor, but any psycho who wants to kill.

- New York

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 11, 2019 07:03 PM (1g7ch)

451 Catholics are pro choice cucks.

Posted by: torabora at February 11, 2019 07:10 PM (4DS7b)

452 Breitbart has an article about New Mexico's abortion law that allows abortions up to the end of term. Now they want to amend it to compel doctors to perform abortions. Just about all states are short on physicians, so maybe the time has come where more right to life states begin recruiting, with incentive, doctors opposed to infanticide.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 11, 2019 07:19 PM (xzqr4)

453 Well, there's Wild Man Fisher. Kinda.....

Posted by: pawn at February 11, 2019 08:02 PM (RQgLd)

454 At least the law is logical. Fucked up but logical.

Posted by: nip at February 11, 2019 08:26 PM (NUH4Q)

455 So you presume to know God's will? Please share it with me, particularly His will regarding March Madness.




Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 11, 2019 06:06 PM (cfSRQ)

The Catholic Church does indeed "presume" to know God's will. (And of course every Christian church has the teachings of Jesus, which are pretty clear about various aspects of God's will, Jesus being God and all.)
The RCC has the Magisterium as well, interpreting the biblical texts and previous magisterial writings. Add in papal infallability.
The Magisterium teaches that the communion host and wine are literally the Body and Blood of Christ. It seems reasonable, though I don't know the official position, that taking communion while in an unrepentant state of mortal sin would be committing the sin of blasphemy. If that were so, the a priest knowingly administering the sacrament would be aiding blasphemy.
So I don't know about excommunication, but refusal to administer any sacrament other than confession or last rites would, again, seem reasonable.
No teachings, AFAIK, about brackets.

Just my two cents' worth.

Posted by: BJM at February 11, 2019 09:13 PM (hu22E)

456 And this is the same dolt who wants all his citizens disarmed and where Conservatives and Christians are not welcome Just wait one day Satan will have him

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 12, 2019 04:26 PM (wGqjj)

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