Fight The Power! Cast Off The Shackles Of The Gun Lobby!

Their clever mind-control tricks have pushed many Americans to purchase modern striker-fired pistols. Yes, they are loads of fun, and the one pictured is amazingly accurate too, no doubt because of a really, really nice trigger.

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But we are free men! we have free will! After much soul searching I have decided to move in another direction, and think for myself. I realize now that I have been a pawn of the Gun LobbyTM and the NRA.

No more!

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Single Action for the win!

******

And because this made me laugh. But it is quite profane, so be careful!


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Posted by: Ha at February 10, 2019 12:51 PM (MAstk)

2 A 1911, my favorite

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 12:52 PM (/rm4P)

3 Freakin' Carl. Could have saved the human race, but no.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:54 PM (cY3LT)

4 I thought Weasel did the gun thread later on Sundays. Well, I for one can never get enough gun threads (or guns)!

Posted by: Gref at February 10, 2019 12:55 PM (AMIL/)

5 Since this is a Gun Thread saw a interesting artical this week to watch for 'gun right' groups who seem to raise money for nothing but to enrich their own pockets.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 12:56 PM (/rm4P)

6 I suspect this is a two-fer gun Sunday, kinda buy one, get one free

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 12:57 PM (/rm4P)

7

It's amusing to me , looking at the various offerings, the lineage from John Browning is so clearly delineated.


EVERYTHING flows from that original design, it's unmistakable.


Pretty close to perfect out of the box.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2019 12:57 PM (S/hVx)

8 One of the benefits of a striker fired pistol is the ease of the double action. Really, though, what is the difference between actuating the firing pin by hitting it with a hammer against a spring, or pushing it back against a spring to bounce forward?

What the world really needs is a decocker/safety. That is what advancing really looks like.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2019 12:58 PM (mUa7G)

9 B92 for the win.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 12:58 PM (mk9aG)

10 This is fantastic -- Virginia Governor Coonman somehow manages to stick his foot even further down his throat, though that seemed impossible. And yet:

Northam describes slaves as merely "Indentured Servants From Africa" while explaining why he's totally not racist:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6688565/ Gov-Ralph-Northam-explains-hes-not-resigning-Gayle-King-lectures-slavery.html

Like throwing kerosene on a fire.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 12:59 PM (c+2jX)

11 I did cast off the shackles. Bought a CZ 75. DA/SA, decoder, holds more than seven rounds, based on the Browning Hi Power, which is what JMB designed *after* the 1911.

Come at me bro

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 12:59 PM (7PLM4)

12 Damn autocorrect. Decocker.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:00 PM (7PLM4)

13 Video is high-larious!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 10, 2019 01:00 PM (FXbwN)

14 zombie - and he says he is the moral leader.
Can't fix stupid

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 01:00 PM (/rm4P)

15 Northam describes slaves as merely "Indentured Servants From Africa" while explaining why he's totally not racist


He was too busy working on his moonwalk and blackface application techniques to learn any history.

Posted by: Gref at February 10, 2019 01:00 PM (AMIL/)

16 Gun thread is 7 hours early!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!!

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at February 10, 2019 01:02 PM (C1NyB)

17 15 Northam describes slaves as merely "Indentured Servants From Africa" while explaining why he's totally not racist

He was too busy working on his moonwalk and blackface application techniques to learn any history.
Posted by: Gref


All the ISFAs in Virginia will demand his resignation over this insult to their history!

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 01:02 PM (c+2jX)

18 It's amusing to me , looking at the various offerings, the lineage from John Browning is so clearly delineated.

EVERYTHING flows from that original design, it's unmistakable.

Pretty close to perfect out of the box.


Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2019 12:57 PM (S/hVx)

Mr Schwarzlose would like to disagree

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2019 01:02 PM (mUa7G)

19 The robot video is funny --- but it's such a superb example of how NOT to use profanity that you wish you could use it in a high-school English class.

When every other word is "fuck," when there's nothing BUT profanity, it loses its impact, both in forcefulness and in humor.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2019 01:03 PM (Rxduq)

20
I don't think indentured savants had dental plans back then. Under socialism they will.

Posted by: Alexandria Occasional Cortex at February 10, 2019 01:03 PM (jYje5)

21 That robot in the video is Hillary 40 years from now, as she prepares for her 11th run for the presidency.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 01:03 PM (UGqF8)

22 Gun thread is 7 hours early!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!!
Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at February 10, 2019 01:02 PM (C1NyB)

You say it's your birthday?

Well it's my birthday too.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 10, 2019 01:04 PM (FXbwN)

23 15
Northam describes slaves as merely "Indentured Servants From Africa" while explaining why he's totally not racist





He was too busy working on his moonwalk and blackface application techniques to learn any history.



Posted by: Gref at February 10, 2019 01:00 PM (AMIL/)

The first "slaves" that came over to the colonies were indentured servants, however they only had a period of servitude of 5 years and were released if they completed the 5 years "honorably". And they were a combination of all races.


The 5 years of labor was supposed to pay for the cost of getting them to the colonies which was quite expensive at the time.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 01:04 PM (mpXpK)

24 Northam describes slaves as merely "Indentured Servants From Africa" while explaining why he's totally not racist:

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 12:59 PM (c+2jX)

Joe Biden is a Pro Bono Body Odor Consultant

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:04 PM (7PLM4)

25
Come see my cheesy movie ... pleeeeeeease!

Posted by: Brie Lardson at February 10, 2019 01:04 PM (pNxlR)

26 Happy Birthday, Euastace !

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (d1R3N)

27 From the article:

"'Yes,' Northam said. 'And while we have made a lot of progress in Virginia, slavery has ended. Schools have been desegregated. We have ended the Jim Crow laws, easier access to voting. It is abundantly clear that we still have a lot of work to do."

A lot of work definitely needs to be done -- such as removing racist governors from office!

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (c+2jX)

28 Carl should be reported to H.R. for his abusive behavior.

Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (wxZSX)

29 I do very much enjoy shooting the 1911, but if I was in a gunfight, I'd prefer my B92. But my most accurate handgun is a 1955 Ruger Standard. My most _useful_ handgun is my P-3AT, because it's on my body at all times, except in the shower.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (mk9aG)

30
"Indentured Servants From Africa"

Which speaks to a little known part of my 'Green Plan' -- renaming our green currency. If the Europeans can have the Euro and Africans the Afro, why can't we come up with a better name then 'dollar'?

Posted by: Alexandria Occasional Cortex at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (jYje5)

31 27
From the article:



"'Yes,' Northam said. 'And while we have made a lot of progress in
Virginia, slavery has ended. Schools have been desegregated. We have
ended the Jim Crow laws, easier access to voting. It is abundantly clear
that we still have a lot of work to do."



A lot of work definitely needs to be done -- such as removing racist governors from office!

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (c+2jX)


Yes, and this idiot had a whole lot to do with ending slavery in 1865.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 01:06 PM (mpXpK)

32 based on the Browning Hi Power, which is what JMB designed *after* the 1911.

Come at me bro
Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 12:59 PM


The P-35 is based upon a design by St. JMB (PBUH), but was completed by Dieudonné Saive, who deserves as much, if not a little more, credit.

Aside from the magazine safety, it's doggone near perfect.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 01:06 PM (DMUuz)

33 http://oldafsarge.blogspot.com/2019/02/fix-bayonets.html

Liked this artical, but then has a picture of my Pommeranians.
Should bayonet use continue?

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 01:06 PM (/rm4P)

34 Beeman's > Wrigley's

Posted by: mindful webworker's goofy ghost, hanging around, at February 10, 2019 01:06 PM (Iynsv)

35 Ted Kennedy:

"Freelance Swimming Instructor"

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:06 PM (7PLM4)

36 The first "slaves" that came over to the colonies were indentured servants, however they only had a period of servitude of 5 years and were released if they completed the 5 years "honorably". And they were a combination of all races.

The 5 years of labor was supposed to pay for the cost of getting them to the colonies which was quite expensive at the time.
Posted by: Vic


Shhhh! We must not let facts interfere with the Leftist Outrage Machine!

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 01:07 PM (c+2jX)

37 Which speaks to a little known part of my 'Green Plan' -- renaming our green currency. If the Europeans can have the Euro and Africans the Afro, why can't we come up with a better name then 'dollar'?
Posted by: Alexandria Occasional Cortex

The honkie ?

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2019 01:07 PM (d1R3N)

38 Fucking Carl, man!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2019 01:07 PM (kQs4Y)

39 Which speaks to a little known part of my 'Green Plan' -- renaming our green currency. If the Europeans can have the Euro and Africans the Afro, why can't we come up with a better name then 'dollar'?
Posted by: Alexandria Occasional Cortex at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (jYje5)


I suggest that the years should also be renamed to reflect the importance of the date on which America embarked on its program to save the entire planet. I think "Year Zero" has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 01:07 PM (UGqF8)

40 I did cast off the shackles. Bought a CZ 75.
DA/SA, decoder, holds more than seven rounds, based on the Browning Hi
Power, which is what JMB designed *after* the 1911.



Come at me bro

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 12:59 PM (7PLM4)


Waaay up on my list of favorites.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (9Om/r)

41 Aaaah! Love my 1911's. You can't beat that sweet trigger.

Posted by: Cranky Old Fart at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (YBUIU)

42 Carl Walther didn't molest his employees. Just sayin'.

He shot them.

Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (wxZSX)

43 Personally, I always had a taste for Walther pistols.

Posted by: A. Hitler at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (UGqF8)

44
Was cleaning the Remington 1858 the other day and once more was struck by how small the grip is. The Colt Army is massive in comparison.
Wonder how come that is? Small hands back then?

Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (S/hVx)

45
Northam describes slaves as merely "Indentured Servants From Africa" while explaining why he's totally not racist.


Don't presume to explain American history to me, Coonman.

Also, grow a pair and reject any indoctrination literature from Coates and his ilk. Chart your own course, if you must. We have no need whatsoever for another groveling, glove sniffing Caucasian soysack when it comes to racial matters in this country.

Posted by: ain't buying what you're selling at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (pNxlR)

46 Oh, sorry. Read that wrong.

Posted by: mindful webworker's roseannadanna ghost, hanging around, at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (Iynsv)

47 Star BM.

Cheap, steel and a total Browning rip off sans the safeties and trigger.

See the Battle of Bridge 14 and 2/Lt. Van Vuuren killing 11 Cubans with one during this battle.

Viva Espana!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2019 01:09 PM (Z+IKu)

48 My most _useful_ handgun is my P-3AT, because it's on my body at all times, except in the shower.
Posted by: gp


A HA! Now I know when to burst into your house and surprise you with a bouquet of flowers. All other times might be too dangerous. Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 01:09 PM (c+2jX)

49
The 5 years of labor was supposed to pay for the cost of getting them to the colonies which was quite expensive at the time.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 01:04 PM


I believe I've read that passage from Europe was hundreds of dollars back then. I have no clue what that equates to in today's dollars. A small fortune I would imagine.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 01:09 PM (jYje5)

50 Goddamit Carl.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2019 01:09 PM (rnAwa)

51 "Indentured Servants From Africa" Chattel slaves/property, not indentured/indebted.

Many American immigrants, mostly European, DID arrive as indentured servants, going back to the 1600s. That's how bad they wanted to get here. And of course, to this day we still have some immigrant indentures.

I hope Northam is a better doctor than politician.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:10 PM (mk9aG)

52 Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2019 01:11 PM (MVjcR)

53
It is abundantly clear that we still have a lot of work to do.


Favor us with a fer instance, Ralph Malph.

Posted by: really ain't buying what you're selling at February 10, 2019 01:11 PM (pNxlR)

54 Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 01:06 PM (DMUuz)

That's true, he died and never finished it. But having shot both designs I'll take the Hi Power and its grandchildren.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:11 PM (7PLM4)

55 49 Depends on where you got that number in dollars. But the cost was quite high and had to be paid up front in gold.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 01:11 PM (mpXpK)

56 44 Average human height was shorter 150 years ago

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 01:12 PM (/rm4P)

57 Carl Walther didn't molest his employees. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (wxZSX)

Neither did Carl Weathers, as far as I know.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:12 PM (XmV7U)

58 "A HA! Now I know when to burst into your house " I didn't say what I have in the shower.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:12 PM (mk9aG)

59 by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2019 01:09 PM (Z+IKu)

Van Vuuren? Was he Foreign Legion?

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:13 PM (7PLM4)

60 The gun grabbers that disarmed Germany are determined to do the same thing here. Of course first they destroy the Middle Class and destroy the economy. This just engaged in massive (tax cut) increase on the Middle class combined with real tax cuts for the rich, despite lies to the contrary will accelerate socialist anarchy sought and being achieved by the globalist rich. Is it still a wonder why bill & Hitlery and her worst cohorts continue unscathed ? The con continues until the collapse....

Posted by: ron n. at February 10, 2019 01:13 PM (XkVhH)

61 I suppose Northam could have been a decent neurosurgeon and just never studied anything outside his field. But in that case why would he have gotten involved in politics? Rather scary to think that such a racist, eugenicist (PP) dope was deciding whether to perform brain surgery.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 10, 2019 01:13 PM (jUcoH)

62 The first real slaves brought over from Africa were brought by the Spanish. However the Spanish dumped them on the beach in SC because they were running low on beer. The Africans disappeared into the forest and were never heard from again.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 01:14 PM (mpXpK)

63 Joe Biden is a Pro Bono Body Odor Consultant
Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:04 PM (7PLM4)

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I am too busy saving the world to be the official body odor consultant of failed candidates

Posted by: Bono at February 10, 2019 01:14 PM (U2JQS)

64 I suppose Northam could have been a decent
neurosurgeon and just never studied anything outside his field. But in
that case why would he have gotten involved in politics? Rather scary
to think that such a racist, eugenicist (PP) dope was deciding whether
to perform brain surgery.






Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 10, 2019 01:13 PM (jUcoH)

He's not just a neurosurgeon, but a pediatric neurosurgeon, and practiced for years.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 01:15 PM (9/vGE)

65
Given the msny disparaging remarks directed at the great unwashed by the Never Trumpers and the Dims, is our status properly described as "undentured servants"?

Posted by: Just Askin' at February 10, 2019 01:15 PM (pNxlR)

66 I like to rape women who have been previously raped. They learned to keep their mouths shut real good. Plus I like to make rape survivors feel even worse than they already do. I bring their rock bottom even lower. That's just how I roll. I'm the next Obama!

Posted by: Justin Fairfax, VA Lt. Gov. / Former Federal Prosecutor / Serial Rapist at February 10, 2019 01:15 PM (uloIh)

67 How do you like the R1 CBD? I've been eyeing it up as my first 1911. Like the price point.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 10, 2019 01:16 PM (IcJtd)

68 Van Vuuren? Was he Foreign Legion?
Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:13 PM (7PLM4)

Affrikaner......South Africa's bush war in Angola in 1975.

Killing commies and Cubans, but I repeat myself.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2019 01:17 PM (Z+IKu)

69 27---A lot of work definitely needs to be done -- such as removing racist governors from office!
Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (c+2jX)
------------------------
No, no, no.
HE doesn't have to pay. The Left never pays.

If any of the holy elite should sin, it cannot be their fault.
It is OUR fault.
It's "Virginia." It's "America."
WE get to pay.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2019 01:19 PM (Rxduq)

70 Oh, you meant viva Espania for the Star. I thought you were saying he was Spanish.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:19 PM (7PLM4)

71 Joe Biden is a Pro Bono Body Odor Consultant
Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 01:04 PM (7PLM4)
----------
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I am too busy saving the world to be the official body odor consultant of failed candidates
Posted by: Bono at February 10, 2019 01:14 PM

~~~~~

I think you misunderstood what Vanya was saying. Biden is Pro Bono, means he is in favor of you, so no worries.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2019 01:19 PM (NtglE)

72 Sorry, guys. I tried.

Posted by: Carl at February 10, 2019 01:19 PM (t6MX/)

73 The video LMAO

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 01:20 PM (jm1YL)

74 "is our status properly described as "undentured servants"?"

Some folks'll
Never lose a toe
And then some
Folks'll!
Like Cletus
The Slack-Jawed Yokel!

That's The Simpson's parody of white trash.

That is what pops into every Democrat and newsmedia persons' and college professors' head when they think of the deplorables.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:21 PM (mk9aG)

75 30 Which speaks to a little known part of my 'Green Plan' -- renaming our green currency. If the Europeans can have the Euro and Africans the Afro, why can't we come up with a better name then 'dollar'?
Posted by: Alexandria Occasional Cortex


Interesting real trivia:

There was a medieval town in Bohemia then called Joachimsthal where, around 1500AD, they discovered silver ore in a cave. It was turned into a very productive silver mine, and with all that freshly smelted silver, they decided to make coins out them. These coins quickly gained a reputation for being the highest quality and being made of the purest silver, so they were dubbed "coins from Joachimsthal" or (in German) "Joachimsthaler" coins, starting in 1516.

Because they were so desirable, they spread all over Europe and were known as the standard by which all other silver coins were measured (back then, it was hard to tell the purity of each coin, and many were made from degraded metals).

As the Joachimsthaler spread throughout Europe and even around the world, its name was shortened and the "Joachim" part was dropped, and after a while they were just called "thalers." Which in German has a hard T, so is pronounced "tollars."

Over time, as people from many lands used the word, the pronunciation shifted from tollar to dollar. By the late 1700s, when the US wanted a new currency to replace the British pound, they sought out the unit of currency with the best reputation, and settled on using the thaler, which by then had had its spelling changed to dollar.

And the rest is history.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 01:23 PM (c+2jX)

76 Bayonets or assault smirks?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 10, 2019 01:24 PM (t6MX/)

77 Yes, and this idiot had a whole lot to do with ending slavery in 1865.
Nor did he have anything to do with any of the other advances he lists, all of which had to be shoved down the Democrats throats while they fought against them. He is just another racist Democratic thug in a long line of them.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2019 01:25 PM (qsztn)

78 It cannot be any official GOP figure cuz the FNM would find and report that one fact, but someone should be pointing out to the black population the racist position of the DEMs: demanding that Fairfax resign, preparing to impeach him and letting Coonman, pushing for black infanticide to skate

(I know Fairfax was PP too, and sexual assault is serious, but politics aint beanball)

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 10, 2019 01:27 PM (jUcoH)

79 I spilled a can of Anathematizer, now I hate my floor too much to clean it up.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 10, 2019 01:27 PM (RuIsu)

80
Now I see why the British press is embargoing news from the Yellow Jacket protests in France:

A mother was arrested in front of her children and locked up for seven hours after referring to a transgender woman as a man online.

Three officers detained Kate Scottow at her home before quizzing her at a police station about an argument with an activist on Twitter over so-called 'deadnaming'. The 38-year-old, from Hitchin, Hertfordshire, had her photograph, DNA and fingerprints taken and remains under investigation.

More than two months after her arrest on December 1, she has had neither her mobile phone or laptop returned, which she says is hampering her studies for a Masters in forensic psychology.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/amp/Mother-
arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 01:27 PM (jYje5)

81 Bayonets or assault smirks?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 10, 2019 01:24 PM


Which one has the thingie that goes up?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 01:31 PM (DMUuz)

82 "I spilled a can of Anathematizer, now I hate my floor too much to clean it up."

Pour some Apathylon on there, and you won't care anymore.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:32 PM (mk9aG)

83

Imposter Gun thread

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 01:33 PM (KYuJa)

84 I spilled a can of Anathematizer, now I hate my floor too much to clean it up.
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 10, 2019 01:27 PM (RuIsu)

Try some immanentizing spray?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:35 PM (XmV7U)

85
Is it true that alex marx cortez's "green deal" includes Us plebes drinking our own urine?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 01:35 PM (KYuJa)

86 "Any time of day is a good time for a gun thread."

-- paraphrasing Fabienne from Pulp Fiction slightly

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 01:35 PM (DMUuz)

87 Is it true that alex marx cortez's "green deal" includes Us plebes drinking our own urine?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 01:35 PM


That was a fake addition.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 01:36 PM (DMUuz)

88 I have to say, I've always had a soft spot for Walther firearms. My first free rifle was an old KKM, layer upgraded to a GX-1. Always felt funny having to use an Anschutz at school.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 10, 2019 01:37 PM (wycr+)

89 "Carl Walther didn't molest his employees. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (wxZSX)



Neither did Carl Weathers, as far as I know.

Posted by: hogmartin"

But Carl the factory guy does molest his robots.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 10, 2019 01:37 PM (DjIXP)

90 85


Is it true that alex marx cortez's "green deal" includes Us plebes drinking our own urine?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 01:35 PM (KYuJa)
Don't be ridiculous. Our urine will be harvested and given to the needy.

Posted by: Peaches at February 10, 2019 01:37 PM (14URa)

91 I need robot-killing guns now

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 01:38 PM (xJa6I)

92 I own only two striker fired pistols. I like-a the hammer.

Posted by: Ronald Hyatt at February 10, 2019 01:39 PM (yQpMk)

93 I traded an old scope for a beautiful Union Switch & Signal slide in Dulite so now I have a $600 paperweight!

Posted by: DBCooper at February 10, 2019 01:39 PM (bttOm)

94 And yes, the PPQ is like magic. It does jam a bit, so I don't carry it. My XD and Glocks don't, so those are my carry guns. But the PPQ is the best damn range toy I own.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 01:40 PM (xJa6I)

95 Don't be ridiculous. Our urine will be harvested and given to the needy.



The very finest Lady Piss will be reserved for the Overlords.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:40 PM (yQpMk)

96 I need robot-killing guns now
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 01:38 PM (xJa6I)


It's going to hurt, but 3.5in slugs in 12ga would probably suffice for now. Until they up-armor the robots. Then we'll have to upgrade to steel slugs made at home because TPTB will ban the manufacture thereof.

Then titanium tipped steel slugs.
Then HE filled titanium slugs.
Then run for the corn and pray.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 10, 2019 01:42 PM (z79tQ)

97 I have to say, I've always had a soft spot for Walther firearms.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 10, 2019 01:37 PM (wycr+)

I really like the PPS M2, single stack little compact sibling of the PPQ up there but for those of us with tiny flimsy effeminate paws. It feels more polished than the VP9 somehow, and despite smaller and lighter it seems faster to recover from recoil.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:44 PM (XmV7U)

98 By the late 1700s, when the US wanted a new currency to replace the British pound, they sought out the unit of currency with the best reputation, and settled on using the thaler, which by then had had its spelling changed to dollar.



Is that really true? I thought it was based on the Spanish Dollar, or Piece of Eight. Hence the 4bits, 6bits, 8bits a dollar!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:44 PM (yQpMk)

99 I own and have been carrying a Sig Sauer P229 .40. Have used it in my official job for the last 15 years. I find the Sig to be reliable, easy to carry, and accurate. I breaks down into 4 parts so cleaning is easy and quick. It is concealable and yet menacing enough to get quick result when thrust into the face of a perp. Someone above mentioned a decocker- it has that too, so one is carried in the pipe, ready to go. My $.02.

Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 10, 2019 01:44 PM (Yhhsn)

100 98 By the late 1700s, when the US wanted a new currency to replace the British pound, they sought out the unit of currency with the best reputation, and settled on using the thaler, which by then had had its spelling changed to dollar.



Is that really true? I thought it was based on the Spanish Dollar, or Piece of Eight. Hence the 4bits, 6bits, 8bits a dollar!
Posted by: Grump928(C)


By then, the Spanish were making "thalers" as well, so you are correct -- as am I. By the late 1700s, "dollar/taler/thaler" had become a generic name for a type of large pure silver coin, made by many nations, including Spain (who made them breakable into 8 pieces).

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2019 01:47 PM (c+2jX)

101 Couple things I noticed about AOC GND, besides the absurdity and economic ignorance.

First, it reads like a junior term paper that somebody waited all semester to start, then dashed it off in one night.

Second, it's just the usual potpourri of all the leftist peace-and-justice blah blah demands, same stuff they've been chanting for 40 years. They throw a bone to every one of their little constituencies (e.g., indigenous people, unions it's like watching one of their standard cookie-cutter marches strut by.

One big question is: Who Is The Author? Was it AOC? I'd like a "reporter" to get a definite answer to that.

Other questions: Why did so many seemingly mature adult male Dems sign on to it? Didn't they read it before endorsing it? Do they really believe it? Why do they think America wants a Ten Year Plan to Remake Our Entire Society? Do they really believe there is some credible cataclysmic threat that can be met in only this way? If so, why didn't they prepare a careful, detailed, genuine analysis, instead of a D- term paper/random wishlist?

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:48 PM (mk9aG)

102 Carl Walther didn't molest his employees. Just sayin'.

He shot them.




I don't care who he is back in the world, he gives away our position one more time, I'll bleed him, real quiet. Leave him here.

Posted by: Mac at February 10, 2019 01:49 PM (yQpMk)

103 "I need robot-killing guns now" For the little ones, I have the Garand. For the big ones, the M1917 rechambered in 300H&H.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:50 PM (mk9aG)

104 I have a confession to make: after giving my 1911 away....I'm thinking of buying another one.

I don't know why. It's a sickness. I'm not likely to carry it over my striker or hammer-fired 45s I already own. I don't even really like firing them, I really don't like field stripping them.

But...here we are....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 01:50 PM (xJa6I)

105 I don't care who he is back in the world, he gives away our position one more time, I'll bleed him, real quiet. Leave him here.

Posted by: Mac at February 10, 2019 01:49 PM (yQpMk)


Great line. I could never figure out what he says right before that. He calls him a name or something.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 10, 2019 01:51 PM (9Om/r)

106 I have a confession to make: after giving my 1911 away....I'm thinking of buying another one.



I am keen for a Moron Report on the Double Stack R1.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:51 PM (yQpMk)

107 I could never figure out what he says right before that.


he says "You're ghostin' us, motherfucker."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:52 PM (yQpMk)

108 103 "I need robot-killing guns now" For the little ones, I have the Garand. For the big ones, the M1917 rechambered in 300H&H.
Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:50 PM (mk9aG)

This is a good start.

I have an AR 10 lower that needs an upper. That'll be where I begin. I may need special anti-robot ammo, though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 01:52 PM (xJa6I)

109 Slavery was good because the governmen.. er I mean the owners provided for everything.

Posted by: Governor Nathan Northam at February 10, 2019 01:53 PM (pw+jk)

110 he says "You're ghostin' us, motherfucker."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:52 PM (yQpMk)


Ah. It always sounded like he called him ghost nuts. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 10, 2019 01:53 PM (9Om/r)

111 I've ordered my birthday rifle for this year. It will be a couple of weeks to ship, probably.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:53 PM (yQpMk)

112 106 I have a confession to make: after giving my 1911 away....I'm thinking of buying another one.



I am keen for a Moron Report on the Double Stack R1.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:51 PM (yQpMk)

Pass. I have no confidence in Remington. I may get a cheapie Rock Island, since Hickock 45 gave it a good review. Price is more in my ballpark than a Wilson Combat is.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 01:54 PM (xJa6I)

113 Do they really believe there is some credible cataclysmic threat that can be met in only this way? If so, why didn't they prepare a careful, detailed, genuine analysis, instead of a D- term paper/random wishlist?
Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:48 PM (mk9aG)

Our political class understands that the public doesn't respond to anything other than crisis. Ergo, everything they want needs to be a response to some manufactured crisis.
What's really pissing them off is the public's ability to see through their bullshit. They demand action on a manufactured crisis while ignoring actual ones, while the deplorables want action on a more sane priority list.

Long story short: D- term paper/random wishlist disguised as existential crisis has more emotional appeal, nevermind if it would work or what it would cost.


ps We are a totally unserious and stupid populace. They'll eventually get everything they want, or there will be conflict.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 10, 2019 01:55 PM (z79tQ)

114 The hammer on my SCCY CPX-2 can't be cocked by thumb but only by the double action of pulling the trigger. The trigger pull is long and heavy, but I like it; it lets me carry an eleventh round of 9mm in the pipe safely. I have learned how to shoot that pistol accurately - despite the trigger.

If you use a spray cleaner on the weapon, you have to re-oil the trigger mechanism at the rear of the disassembled pistol for it to work reliably.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2019 01:56 PM (qsztn)

115 I have no confidence in Remington.


So far, no problems with my basic R1. And it shoots like it is possessed. I am a notoriously bad pistol shot, but this thing will put all 7 in the 4in ring at 7 yards, out of the box.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:56 PM (yQpMk)

116 I have a Beratta 9 mm and .38 detectives special from the 1930s but the one thing I want is .38 hammerless pocket pistol.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 10, 2019 01:57 PM (vV/gB)

117 When every other word is "fuck," when there's nothing BUT profanity, it loses its impact, both in forcefulness and in humor.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2019 01:03 PM (Rxduq)


I watched a 23 minute video of Sinbad on Facebook yesterday. The man is funny as hell and I don't think I heard one cuss word in the entire video.

Posted by: Bill R. at February 10, 2019 01:58 PM (IuYIh)

118 "Maternity photo shows mom-to-be posing with gator, shotgun, and beer"

Guess where?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3ybosm8

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 01:58 PM (gbepJ)

119 Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 10, 2019 01:44 PM (Yhhsn)

SIG made good guns. Not my favorite but I did end up buying a SIG 250-22 recently. I had a P229 with a DAK trigger. Now THAT was a great rapid fire pistol. But only had 13 rounds in 9mm, so I traded it away when I got my XD9.

I'm sure your pistol would get the job done just fine.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 01:58 PM (xJa6I)

120 115 I have no confidence in Remington.


So far, no problems with my basic R1. And it shoots like it is possessed. I am a notoriously bad pistol shot, but this thing will put all 7 in the 4in ring at 7 yards, out of the box.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 01:56 PM (yQpMk)

That's actually a weight off my mind, Grump. Glad it's working for you. Reliable for you too, I assume?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:00 PM (xJa6I)

121 "I have a confession to make: after giving my 1911 away ..."

Gosh I sure am glad I got rid of that gun!
Said NO ONE EVER!

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 02:00 PM (mk9aG)

122 I watched a 23 minute video of Sinbad on Facebook yesterday. The man is funny as hell and I don't think I heard one cuss word in the entire video.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 10, 2019 01:58 PM (IuYIh)

That's also true of Brian Regan and Jim Gaffigan, two of my absolute favorites.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 10, 2019 02:00 PM (FXbwN)

123 Went to the gun store yesterday with Mrs. Martini and found a pistol she can rack... Smith 'n Wesson Shield .380 EZ.

Come home and, well, I've got no room in the safe. Best feeling evah.

Posted by: Marini Farmer at February 10, 2019 02:01 PM (3H9h1)

124 97 I have to say, I've always had a soft spot for Walther firearms.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 10, 2019 01:37 PM (wycr+)

I really like the PPS M2, single stack little compact sibling of the PPQ up there but for those of us with tiny flimsy effeminate paws. It feels more polished than the VP9 somehow, and despite smaller and lighter it seems faster to recover from recoil.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:44 PM (XmV7U)

GunProDeals has them for under $300. I don't need one...but you're making me want one...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:01 PM (xJa6I)

125 He said "striker-fired" AND "really nice trigger", isn't that an oxymoron?

Posted by: We made Bill Nye wear the dress, happy now? at February 10, 2019 02:02 PM (1L9V9)

126 109 Slavery was good because the governmen.. er I mean the owners provided for everything.
Posted by: Governor Nathan Northam at February 10, 2019 01:53 PM (pw+jk)

When income taxes reach very high levels, and if the Government gives you food and housing.

How is that different from slavery EXCEPT that the Government will allow lazy slaves?

Posted by: Don Q. at February 10, 2019 02:03 PM (NgKpN)

127 11 I did cast off the shackles. Bought a CZ 75. DA/SA, decoder, holds more than seven rounds, based on the Browning Hi Power, which is what JMB designed *after* the 1911.

Come at me bro
Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 12:59 PM (7PLM4)

My CZ 75 is my second favorite range toy. It feels like I'm cheating, using it. I need a good belt holster for it, Don Hume doesn't make one, apparently.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:03 PM (xJa6I)

128 Guns scare me. We should take all of them away except for security and the government.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at February 10, 2019 02:03 PM (pw+jk)

129 GunProDeals has them for under $300. I don't need one...but you're making me want one...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:01 PM (xJa6I)

Doooooo iiiiiit

https://stoatnet.org/ppsm2andfriend.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 02:03 PM (XmV7U)

130 Reliable for you too, I assume?


So far no failures of any kind, at least for the few hundred rounds I and guests have put through it. But I don't run thousands through pistols like a competition shooter will so I can't speak to longevity.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 02:04 PM (yQpMk)

131 CBD told me yesterday that I had to comment if I ever wanted to be allowed into another NoVaMoMe. Then he changed the secret hand shake/tail wag and wouldn't tell me what they were.
I suppose my .308 will take down that obnoxious robot pretty quick, but it's really that tail grabber Carl I'm gunning for.

Posted by: Rocky Lombo's Pancreaus at February 10, 2019 02:04 PM (mUoYB)

132 3 Freakin' Carl. Could have saved the human race, but no.
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Effin' hilarious video.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 10, 2019 02:05 PM (W+kMI)

133 125 He said "striker-fired" AND "really nice trigger", isn't that an oxymoron?
Posted by: We made Bill Nye wear the dress, happy now? at February 10, 2019 02:02 PM (1L9V9)

Uhh, no. Try the PPQ and you'll understand.

Heck, I know a lot of folks who prefer the striker triggers over DA or DA/SA triggers.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:05 PM (xJa6I)

134 "Long story short: D- term paper/random wishlist disguised as existential crisis has more emotional appeal, nevermind if it would work or what it would cost.
ps We are a totally unserious and stupid populace."

That's right on point. They probably convince many people with just the name of the thing: Green New Deal.

"Green" and "New Deal" are indisputably Good Things among the LoFos. They don't care about the details, they just know somebody is finally "saving the planet," and their friends would shun them if they didn't act/pose like they cared.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 02:05 PM (mk9aG)

135 Robots are cool. There should be a super hero comic book with a superrobot. That would be wicked.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at February 10, 2019 02:06 PM (pw+jk)

136 Many American immigrants, mostly European, DID
arrive as indentured servants, going back to the 1600s. That's how bad
they wanted to get here. And of course, to this day we still have some
immigrant indentures.




Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 01:10 PM (mk9aG)


That's how my first ancestor in North America got here. His name was John Howland.

Posted by: Bert G at February 10, 2019 02:06 PM (OMsf+)

137 Happy Birthday Pug Mahon.
Happy Birthday Eustace Haverkamp.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 10, 2019 02:06 PM (aWjrD)

138 So I'm on a waiting list for a P365. Anybody have one?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 10, 2019 02:06 PM (k3g2v)

139 128 Guns scare me. We should take all of them away except for security and the government.
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So, only people who in the past worked for Clinton (either one) or Pelosi, or who presently work for them or in the future work for them should own guns?

Posted by: exdem13 at February 10, 2019 02:07 PM (W+kMI)

140 Happy Birthday Pug Mahon.
Happy Birthday Eustace Haverkamp.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 10, 2019 02:06 PM (aWjrD)

Thanks. Made it one more year. Barely.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 10, 2019 02:08 PM (FXbwN)

141 Robocop used a Barrett .50 on ED 209

Just saying

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2019 02:09 PM (ZfRYq)

142 I see where the Va LT Gov and Harvey Weinstein are both big gun control advocates; they don't want the women they assault to have weapons - might not be good Men's Health practice if they did.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2019 02:09 PM (qsztn)

143 96 I need robot-killing guns now
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 01:38 PM (xJa6I)


It's going to hurt, but 3.5in slugs in 12ga would probably suffice for now. Until they up-armor the robots. Then we'll have to upgrade to steel slugs made at home because TPTB will ban the manufacture thereof.

Then titanium tipped steel slugs.
Then HE filled titanium slugs.
Then run for the corn and pray.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 10, 2019 01:42 PM (z79tQ)


Campbell's soup can HEAT charge.

Once upon a time (2d Ranger demolitions range), I made some from C-Rat cans. Went clean through an engine block.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 10, 2019 02:09 PM (di1hb)

144 138 So I'm on a waiting list for a P365. Anybody have one?
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If I had that $$$ I would buy a VR-80 instead.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 10, 2019 02:09 PM (W+kMI)

145 Guns scare me. We should take all of them away except for security and the government.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at February 10, 2019 02:03 PM (pw+jk)

Finally, a sentiment that wasn't plagiarized from one of Ace's old posts!

Posted by: Surfperch at February 10, 2019 02:10 PM (QSdIk)

146 The R1 has an internal extractor? Cool.

My Sig 1911 has an external extractor which is functional but, detracts from the looks of the firearm.

Living in CA, I'll never be able to purchase an R! double stack 1911.

Be cool to shoot IDPA with 15 round magazines of 230 grain fun.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 10, 2019 02:12 PM (WEBkv)

147 The elites do not believe that the end is nigh. They fly in private jets and have beachfront property. They do not live preindustrial zero emission lifestyles.

The GND is just a way to control people, and they think all the kids will vote for them to take control.

They may be right.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2019 02:12 PM (ZfRYq)

148 Oh and range report: before I get distracted -

I braved the snow of Snowpocalypse 2: Deadly Prey to head to the range Saturday with friends. I brought my Star BM for folks to try and my XD45, along with the usual Ruger MK IV. Didn't get the chance to spend time with SIG P250-22 this week or the Steyr M9, which I'm still evaluating for reliability.

MY Star BM shoots a little high, but I kinda like that. Fixed sights, so I'm stuck with that but the gun trucks along just fine. All metal, so that helps with the snappy JHP rounds I was using.

XD45 is very nice. Very, very nice. It's my carry gun, so it had better be.

The Ruger MK IV is growing on me. I'm getting good groups with it now, so I don't know where my previous trouble were coming from. I have to clean it regularly but.... 22LR, comes with the territory.

Great day at the range.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:12 PM (xJa6I)

149 131 I suppose my .308 will take down that obnoxious robot pretty quick, but it's really that tail grabber Carl I'm gunning for.
Posted by: Rocky Lombo's Pancreaus at February 10, 2019 02:04 PM (mUoYB)

heh

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 02:12 PM (gbepJ)

150 The Walther PPQ is also single-action only. Glocks and other striker-fired pistols have the striker partially cocked when a round is chambered. When you pull the trigger, the striker is then fully cocked and released. That contributes to their crappy out-of-the-box triggers. The PPQ's striker is fully cocked from the get-go, so you get a light, crisp, consistent release every time you pull the trigger.

Posted by: Larry Elmore at February 10, 2019 02:13 PM (6IPkS)

151 138 So I'm on a waiting list for a P365. Anybody have one?
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Actually for that $$ I could buy two .45 Hi-Points and that one twin-gun waist holster and go low-rent John Woo on some dudes.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 10, 2019 02:13 PM (W+kMI)

152 Happy Birthday Pug !

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2019 02:13 PM (d1R3N)

153 Parting thought to you morons: don't fall on this consarned ice! I fell 9 days ago and I'm still busted up. Here in N Illinois, it's just f&cking sheet ice everywhere, and it won't melt for weeks. Yesterday I put sheet-metal screws in the soles/heels of my boots so I could walk outside. I could handle the cold and snow, but this c*cksucking f*cking ice is demonic!

Be careful.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 02:13 PM (mk9aG)

154
What's this from?

Shave and a haircut...
two bits!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 02:14 PM (KYuJa)

155
So I'm on a waiting list for a P365. Anybody have one?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 10, 2019 02:06 PM (k3g2v)


I've been trying to decide between one of those, the sub-compact frame for the P320 I just got, or a VP9SK.

Posted by: Bert G at February 10, 2019 02:14 PM (OMsf+)

156
Someone needs to go back in time and kill Carl.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 02:14 PM (jYje5)

157 141 Robocop used a Barrett .50 on ED 209

Just saying
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It is true that .50 BMG round will settle the hash of a lot of stuff.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 10, 2019 02:15 PM (W+kMI)

158 What's this from?

Shave and a haircut...
two bits!




Toons can't resist it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 02:15 PM (yQpMk)

159 Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:44 PM (XmV7U)

That's the one possible downside of the PPQ...it's ridiculously light, so the recoil from 230 grain rounds is noticeable.

But it's also ridiculously accurate, so I really have no complaints.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2019 02:16 PM (wYseH)

160 We have a new couple neighbor a few doors down. My wife of course Facebook stalks them. Ir's 15% shit about cats and 85% moonbat lib shit including how gunz r evil, Trump is literally Hitler and if only Bernie had won in 2016 we'd be living in a utopia today. Day after day all fucking day long.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 10, 2019 02:17 PM (VyIWU)

161 The XDM is also SA striker fired. That scares me. I wouldn't have bought it at all sans the grip safety. I still won't carry it with one in the chamber.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 02:18 PM (yQpMk)

162
Here's where I know the Shave and a Haircut tune from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GAtKkWOU2s

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 02:19 PM (KYuJa)

163 Thanks for the early gun thread! Going to my first actual handgun class in a couple weeks. I've shot .22s up to Taurus Judge but don't have any real education. What should I choose to start shooting with?

Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:19 PM (KB3MD)

164 Speaking of dangerous tools, I gots to go chain saw some more. Back for the Genuine Gub Thread, at least. If I don't give out sooner.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 02:20 PM (yQpMk)

165 That's the one possible downside of the PPQ...it's ridiculously light, so the recoil from 230 grain rounds is noticeable.

But it's also ridiculously accurate, so I really have no complaints.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2019 02:16 PM (wYseH)

I think the PPS M2 full weighs less than the VP9 empty, but it still feels more stable and controllable with 124s. I can't account for it.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 02:20 PM (lk9x3)

166 147
The elites do not believe that the end is nigh. They fly in private jets
and have beachfront property. They do not live preindustrial zero
emission lifestyles.



The GND is just a way to control people, and they think all the kids will vote for them to take control.



They may be right.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2019 02:12 PM (ZfRYq)

++++Just sitting here, unwilling to work. I hear there's a wage packet in this new lifestyle.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 10, 2019 02:20 PM (aWjrD)

167 Also I'm considering conceal carry class and license...with that in mind, what should I work on getting good with? After safety?

Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:21 PM (KB3MD)

168
It's going to hurt, but 3.5in slugs in 12ga would probably suffice for now. Until they up-armor the robots. Then we'll have to upgrade to steel slugs made at home because TPTB will ban the manufacture thereof.

Then titanium tipped steel slugs.
Then HE filled titanium slugs.
Then run for the corn and pray.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 10, 2019 01:42 PM


several years ago, Lucky Gunner did an April Fools day ad for 12 ga. "drone loads" with titanium shot (or maybe it was depleted uranium)

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 10, 2019 02:21 PM (KCxzN)

169 I still won't carry it with one in the chamber.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 02:18 PM (yQpMk)

On the rare occasions that I am able to carry I carry my HK USP, because it has that great decocker and a very good DA-SA trigger.

Somebody mentioned upthread that that is the way to go...decocker/safety...and I tend to agree.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2019 02:21 PM (wYseH)

170
What should I choose to start shooting with?

Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:19 PM


Change that to 'Who should I start shooting at?' and I'll give you the short list.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 02:21 PM (jYje5)

171 I'll be honest guns kinda scare me too. Scsre isn't the right word. More like I am uncomfortable around them. But I am also the biggest 2A fan you will ever meet. I hate the idea of banning things just because I'm not into them.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 10, 2019 02:22 PM (VyIWU)

172 Bookmark

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 02:22 PM (/rm4P)

173 Change that to 'Who should I start shooting at?' and I'll give you the short list.



I have a longer list. Mrs928 says that any day that we don't go on a multi-state murder spree is a good day.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 02:22 PM (yQpMk)

174
hogmartin: did the TSA confiscate your souvenir?

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 10, 2019 02:23 PM (KCxzN)

175 25
Come see my cheesy movie ... pleeeeeeease!
------------
Go see Battle Angel Alita instead. More butt-kicking, more interesting story, no SJW sermonizing, and Alita knows more than one facial expression.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 10, 2019 02:23 PM (W+kMI)

176 I think the PPS M2 full weighs less than the VP9
empty, but it still feels more stable and controllable with 124s.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 02:20 PM (lk9x3)

I think ergonomically it is a better design (although I like my VP9), and the damned trigger (I assume it's the same as the PPQ) is awesome.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2019 02:24 PM (wYseH)

177 Change that to 'Who should I start shooting at?' and I'll give you the short list.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 02:21 PM (jYje5)



The dude that smashed my passenger side car window Friday night and stole a bunch of stuff from me tops my list. Tho I probably couldn't shouldn't have shot him even if I saw him doing it right? Need to be learning about that too....

Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:24 PM (KB3MD)

178 Now I see why the British press is embargoing news from the Yellow Jacket protests in France:
A mother was arrested in front of her children and locked up for seven hours after referring to a transgender woman as a man online.
...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/amp/Mother-
arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 01:27 PM (jYje5)




This insanity is caused by the phenomenally fast magnetic polar shift that is occurring.

As bird navigation utilizes the magnetic signature the human brain is also affected; some can tolerate it many cannot.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 10, 2019 02:24 PM (ePWRo)

179 171 I'll be honest guns kinda scare me too. Scsre isn't the right word. More like I am uncomfortable around them. But I am also the biggest 2A fan you will ever meet. I hate the idea of banning things just because I'm not into them.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 10, 2019 02:22 PM (VyIWU)

Guns are worthy of respect. And its worth mastering that fear, even for casual shooting purposes. I was scared to death of guns, as much as I liked them growing up. My family were pretty anti-gun (I'm the oddball) and it instilled a real fear of them in me.

It took a while to get used to shooting and even now, I'm never unaware of their potential. It's a good thing, fear is a gift.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:24 PM (xJa6I)

180

Speaking of guns...

have we discussed these "muslim community patrols" yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 02:25 PM (KYuJa)

181 did the TSA confiscate your souvenir?
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 10, 2019 02:23 PM (KCxzN)

Against all odds, no. It's right here with me.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 02:26 PM (lk9x3)

182 Change that to 'Who should I start shooting at?' and I'll give you the short list.

I have a longer list. Mrs928 says that any day that we don't go on a multi-state murder spree is a good day.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2019 02:22 PM


Domestic only? Venezuela needs some fixing.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 02:26 PM (jYje5)

183 More like I am uncomfortable around them.


Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 10, 2019 02:22 PM (VyIWU)

That's smart. I think that people who are too comfortable and relaxed around guns are dangerous.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2019 02:26 PM (wYseH)

184 Don't own a gun, but I had work in the industry.

A Glock is like a Camry. Reliable and boring.

But some guys want a fancier car, even if it's a pain in the ass to own.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 02:26 PM (hvV4q)

185 When applying for a ccw in a blue state say you need it in case you see a 2 day old un aborted baby around town. Approval in under 24 hours. Guaranteed.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 10, 2019 02:27 PM (VyIWU)

186
Nood.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2019 02:27 PM (/9p9e)

187
weird: I'll load up my 1911 with one in the pipe, hammer back, & safety on, put it on my hip and think nothing of it

when I carry my S&W SD9 in the same condition, it kinda freaks me out 'cause there's no external safety

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 10, 2019 02:27 PM (KCxzN)

188
When I saw vids on youtube for "muslim community patrols" I thought it was going on Eurostan.

But this is happening in NYC, now.

Why? Because NYC had 17 hoax hate crimes in 2017 against muslims. So, crisis.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 02:27 PM (KYuJa)

189 167 Also I'm considering conceal carry class and license...with that in mind, what should I work on getting good with? After safety?
Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:21 PM (KB3MD)

Moving when shooting, focusing on the front sight, gun handling in general (Drawing, holster, reloading)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:28 PM (xJa6I)

190 Guns are worthy of respect. And its worth mastering that fear, even for casual shooting purposes. I was scared to death of guns, as much as I liked them growing up. My family were pretty anti-gun (I'm the oddball) and it instilled a real fear of them in me.

It took a while to get used to shooting and even now, I'm never unaware of their potential. It's a good thing, fear is a gift.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:24 PM (xJa6I)

---------------------------

I was raised like this too, in suburban Chicago. When I bought my first gun in GA 30 years ago, I felt like I was doing something illegal. Fortunately, a buddy of mine was able to teach me the basics.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 10, 2019 02:28 PM (ffYR/)

191 186
Nood.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2019 02:27 PM (/9p9e)

No! No,no,no,no,no!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:29 PM (xJa6I)

192 155, BertG - a VP9SK is the other choice. I've rented a full size VP9 and liked it a lot But I can't find a rental VP9SK. Or a P365. I like the P365 in theory because you can reverse the mag button. Same mechanism as on a Sig P360 or SP2022.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 10, 2019 02:30 PM (k3g2v)

193 178
Now I see why the British press is embargoing news from the Yellow Jacket protests in France:

A mother was arrested in front of her children and locked up for
seven hours after referring to a transgender woman as a man online.

...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/amp/Mother-

arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html



Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 01:27 PM (jYje5)++++
Unless they are Asian and of slight builds to begin with, any other male that tries to pretend to be a woman looks just plain silly. It is to laugh, yet we too may be locked up soon for the mistake of being honest.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 10, 2019 02:30 PM (aWjrD)

194 Guns are worthy of respect. And its worth mastering that fear, even for
casual shooting purposes. I was scared to death of guns, as much as I
liked them growing up. My family were pretty anti-gun (I'm the oddball)
and it instilled a real fear of them in me.



It took a while to get used to shooting and even now, I'm never unaware of their potential. It's a good thing, fear is a gift.



Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:24 PM (xJa6I)



I don't think a person realizes how worthy of respect they are until they've shot one, whether it's a .22 pistol or an AR-15, or something in between.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 02:32 PM (9/vGE)

195 No! No,no,no,no,no!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:29 PM (xJa6I)



I know, right? Why break up a good conversation?


Thanks for the advice!

Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:33 PM (KB3MD)

196 163 Thanks for the early gun thread! Going to my first actual handgun class in a couple weeks. I've shot .22s up to Taurus Judge but don't have any real education. What should I choose to start shooting with?
Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:19 PM (KB3MD)

If you're really really starting from scratch, get a .22 revolver. If you have some experience under your belt, get a Glock 17 or 19, used even. No they aren't quite perfection, but they are very, very functional and easy to use/maintain. And they will work for you until you find 'the one'.

If you have a .22 and a Glock 19 or 17, you're good to go for a long, long time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:36 PM (xJa6I)

197 I don't think a person realizes how worthy of respect they are until they've shot one, whether it's a .22 pistol or an AR-15, or something in between.
Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 02:32 PM (9/vGE)

Gersh Kuntzman knows all too well.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 02:36 PM (XmV7U)

198 192 155, BertG - a VP9SK is the other choice. I've rented a full size VP9 and liked it a lot But I can't find a rental VP9SK. Or a P365. I like the P365 in theory because you can reverse the mag button. Same mechanism as on a Sig P360 or SP2022.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 10, 2019 02:30 PM (k3g2v)

I think GunProDeals and J&G sales were both advertising SIG 365 for sale, if you want to deal with the transfer hassle.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:41 PM (xJa6I)

199 someone mentioned not feeling comfortable carrying a round in the chamber. if you are going to carry, you need to have your weapon ready to go, ready to use without a moment's hesitation. There may not be time to pull the slide back and bring it up to aim-

My recommendation. Get a pistol that has a decocker. As I mentioned above, I have carried a Sig 229 for 15 years in this manner. IT HAS NEVER GONE OFF (without me pulling the trigger )

There was a store clerk at a local mall where I live who carried a small .38. he didn't maintain his weapon or keep one in the chamber. he attempted to shoot a guy with an AK who had shot up the mall. the gun went click and the shooter responded with a blast. The clerk took a 7.62 in the gut. he is a paraplegic now, but alive, I guess. mall shooter later surrendered.

food for thought.

Posted by: Democrrrrracy Manifest at February 10, 2019 02:44 PM (Yhhsn)

200 Thanks Mark...I am pretty much starting from scratch...I have a little experience but would rather back up and do it right from Lesson 1. Also looking for a shotgun for home defense, have a nice staircase going to the second level so very defensible position!

Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:46 PM (KB3MD)

201
He said "striker-fired" AND "really nice trigger", isn't that an oxymoron?
Posted by: We made Bill Nye wear the dress, happy now? at February 10, 2019 02:02 PM (1L9V9)






My Kahr CW9 has a sweet, buttery-smooth DAO trigger. Stock, factory trigger. It's so smooth that you forget that it's 8 lbs.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 10, 2019 02:47 PM (eXA4G)

202 Every gun you carry for defense needs to be ready to go. It's the reason I don't carry the Makarov or Tokarev, I don't feel comfortable with either gun with a round in the chamber.

Some people can make Israeli carry work for them, if you train a lot, you can make a lot of things work. But I suggest you keep a round in the chamber.

I've never seen a modern striker fired pistol go off without a finger on the trigger. Never. That's what the trigger safety is for. (And why you keep your finger off the trigger until the sights are on target)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:49 PM (xJa6I)

203 177 The dude that smashed my passenger side car window Friday night and stole a bunch of stuff from me tops my list. Tho I probably couldn't shouldn't have shot him even if I saw him doing it right? Need to be learning about that too....


Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:24 PM (KB3MD)

I know NC is purpling up thanks to an influx of locusts , but unless you live around Charlotte or Raleigh you probably could have got away with shooting him as long as the car was parked in your yard.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 02:53 PM (mpXpK)

204 200 Thanks Mark...I am pretty much starting from scratch...I have a little experience but would rather back up and do it right from Lesson 1. Also looking for a shotgun for home defense, have a nice staircase going to the second level so very defensible position!
Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 02:46 PM (KB3MD)

Shotguns are the kings of social situations. But they are not easy. But if you train with them, they work very well. I will say they are heavy, awkward to reload until you learn tricks and the recoil of a 12 gauge is nothing to sneer at. It makes a .45 look like a kitten.

Start with the .22 revolver and a Glock 17. If at all possible, save up for some bulk ammo (online retailers like ammoseek or sgammo will save you a ton vs buying in stores) and take a one or two day training class. There should be some in NC well worth taking. Check with your local gun range or ping me via the email on my site if you'd like help finding instructors near you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:54 PM (xJa6I)

205 I invented a simple decocker and named it the Lorena Bobbitt. Never did sell well.

Posted by: Anchovy at February 10, 2019 02:55 PM (B3kya)

206 205 I invented a simple decocker and named it the Lorena Bobbitt. Never did sell well.
Posted by: Anchovy at February 10, 2019 02:55 PM (B3kya)

ISWYDT

...and it hurt

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:59 PM (xJa6I)

207 Appreciate the advice Mark! I'll take it to the class and range. And I may hit you up on that email advice, I live in "the city" but wouldn't mind driving a bit to meet some really good people.

Posted by: NC Ref at February 10, 2019 03:00 PM (KB3MD)

208 >>>On the rare occasions that I am able to carry I
carry my HK USP, because it has that great decocker and a very good
DA-SA trigger.

Somebody mentioned upthread that that is the way to go...decocker/safety...and I tend to agree.


Posted by CBD.<<<

My is USP is a champ. It only gets second billing on those rare occasions when my compact 1911 needs a night on the town.

Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2019 03:00 PM (wxZSX)

209 208 >>>On the rare occasions that I am able to carry I
carry my HK USP, because it has that great decocker and a very good
DA-SA trigger.

Somebody mentioned upthread that that is the way to go...decocker/safety...and I tend to agree.


Posted by CBD.

My is USP is a champ. It only gets second billing on those rare occasions when my compact 1911 needs a night on the town.
Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2019 03:00 PM (wxZSX)

HK makes good guns, over engineered (in a mostly good way), over priced/sized compared to the competition, but they do work. I have a good buddy who has a USP and it's a heck of a shooter.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 03:08 PM (xJa6I)

210 Sigh.

That empty echo of an dying gun thread.

I'll miss you gun thread! See folks next week.

*kicks rock*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 03:10 PM (xJa6I)

211 Glad you pointed out that the NRA is not looking out for gun owners, BUT The Gun Owners of America is!
The NRA are a bunch of surrender monkeys, not so the GOA.
$25 buys a membership and well worth it, they fight.
The "gun lobby" you speak of is the NRA and does NOT include GOA.

Posted by: Joe Walker at February 10, 2019 03:23 PM (S+i5q)

212 Whuh? Dying early gun thread, and I just got here.


Anyone check out the case the SCOTUS accepted, from New York? Does it engage important issues, or marginal ones?


As noted several times before, CZ-75 remains at top of my list. Actually the list is just that one gun, for now. Time, logistics, other hobbies/demands, pretty much make my current selection more than I have been able to exercise sufficiently.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2019 03:33 PM (QDnY+)

213 P-64

Safety/Decocker.


Zippy little gun.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2019 03:35 PM (cqNba)

214 VIA, if I hadn't invented an effective rationale for my no-more-guns,-for-now policy - "no new calibers" - I'd definitely have picked up a P-64 a year or two ago when even unissued ones were available for around $300. But I'd just added my last caliber (.380), to get a CZ-83 (actually 2, one surplus and possibly one of the last of the special production run new ones in the pipeline).


Don't carry, apart from duty days at the range, so all those considerations are sort of moot for me.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2019 03:41 PM (QDnY+)

215 " VIA, if I hadn't invented an effective rationale for my no-more-guns,-for-now policy - "no new calibers" - I'd definitely have picked up a P-64 a year or two ago "

I purchased a very nice one about 5 years ago, and really wound up liking it.

Then suddenly, four more followed me home.
I was gonna tell Mrs Via.

But they just climbed into the one gun safe, snuggled down, and never made enough ruckus for me to mention them to her.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2019 03:46 PM (cqNba)

216 188


When I saw vids on youtube for "muslim community patrols" I thought it was going on Eurostan.
But this is happening in NYC, now.
Why? Because NYC had 17 hoax hate crimes in 2017 against muslims. So, crisis.Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 10, 2019 02:27 PM (KYuJa)

Jewish communities in NYC have had similar patrols for at least 20 years. I saw marked clones of NYPD cars with BHSP (BensonHurst Security Patrol),and Hasidic Jews with Uzi smgs in Brooklyn during a rally after 9-11.




Posted by: elliot at February 10, 2019 08:04 PM (1PAtI)

217 I've never seen a modern striker fired pistol go
off without a finger on the trigger. Never. That's what the trigger
safety is for. (And why you keep your finger off the trigger until the
sights are on target)



Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 10, 2019 02:49 PM (xJa6I)

Glock, in particular, has three internal or external safety mechanisms that prevent an accidental discharge, starting with the trigger safety (one of the armorer function checks involves trying to depress the trigger without touching the smaller trigger safety). As long as the trigger guard is confined within a holster, it is nearly impossible to cause an AD/ND. Blackhawk Serpa holster being the exception. They have been banned by many LE agencies.

Posted by: elliot at February 10, 2019 08:15 PM (1PAtI)

218 What the world really needs is a decocker/safety. That is what advancing really looks like.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2019 12:58 PM (mUa7G)


You mean like what my Colt Double Eagle is equipped with? That design is the Browning frame, slide and barrel with a newer double action first trigger pull to single action for remaining trigger pulls? Great design but Colt only made them for a few years: double action feels a great deal like a revolver.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 10, 2019 08:55 PM (5Yee7)

219 Walther PPQ M2 shoots smoother, faster and is left handed....FTW

Posted by: OMSmedia at February 10, 2019 11:36 PM (sQBe5)

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