Sunday Morning Book Thread 02-10-2019

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Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros,
and everybody who's holding your beer. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by escaped oafs who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which look like the designer was trying to do some sort of stained-glass thing, but couldn't quite get the hang of it.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

CHIRONOMY is the art of gesticulating effectively in conversation or performance.

Usage: I have a beautiful, custom-built chironometer. The Italians make the best ones, of course.

Upcoming Big Screen Adaptations

Interesting article on books being adapted for film or TV that are coming out in 2019. These caught my eye:

The Turning
Based on the book The Turn of the Screw by Henry James
A governess attempts to protect two strange, oddly silent children as malevolent forces draw nearer in this modern update of the classic tale. The movie stars Mackenzie Davis, Finn Wolfhard, and Barbara Marten.

Sounds deliciously creepy.

Greyhound
Based on the book The Good Shepherd by C.S. Forester
A convoy (consisting of 37 merchant ships) ploughs through icy, submarine-infested seas during the most critical days of World War II. Its fate rests in the hands of Commander George Krause, an untested veteran. The movie stars Tom Hanks, Elisabeth Shue, and Karl Glusman.

War dramas always good around here. Hanks is a progressive tool, but I like the recent movies he's been in. Plus, this one sounds interesting enough that I think I'm going to have to read the book first.

The Call of the Wild
Based on the book The Call of the Wild by Jack London
At the dawn of the Klondike Gold Rush, when capable sled dogs are in high demand, half St. Bernard Buck is wrenched away from his home and forced to survive in the harsh conditions of the Yukon. The movie stars Harrison Ford and Dan Stevens.

Waiting to see if they'll ruin another classic by adding a grrl power or gay character.

The Irishman
Based on the book I Heard You Paint Houses: Frank "The Irishman" Sheeran & Closing the Case on Jimmy Hoffa by Charles Brandt
Mob hitman Frank "The Irishman" Sheeran tells his side of the story, looking back on his involvement with organized crime and the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. The movie stars Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, and Joe Pesci (also Harvey Keitel).

Well, playing mobsters won't be much of a stretch for any of those guys. Plus, I haven't seen Pesci in anything for years. Also, I had heard that Jimmy Hoffa was buried in one of the end zones of Meadowlands Stadium, so we'll see what they say about that.

Good Omens
Based on the book Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman
It's the end of the world, and someone has misplaced the Antichrist. As the armies of Good and Evil prep for war, a fussy angel and a fast-living demon team up to stop the apocalypse. The series stars David Tennant, Michael Sheen, and Jon Hamm.

Because Pratchett.

Catch-22
Based on the book Catch 22 by Joseph Heller
In the closing months of World War II, bombardier Yossarian desperately tries to get himself excused from perilous missions. But there's a catch... The series stars Christopher Abbott, Kyle Chandler, George Clooney, and Hugh Laurie.

This is going to be an Amazon mini-series. I'm very curious what they're going to be able to do with it. Interesting casting choices.


Odds and Ends

A few weeks ago, I posted a library pic of the Royal Portuguese Cabinet of Reading in Brazil. Geoff sends this link to one of those 360-degree viewer things where you can look up, down, and all around in a panoramic view of the cabinet. It's pretty neat.

Lawrence Person sent me a link to details of some of his recent acquisitions. Some great pics of autographed books.

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From last week:

20 Yesterday I saw Larry Corriera's advice to the Twitter mob.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8opem8s

(plenty of NSFW language)

There's also a link to a different article about the kerfuffle. It's ironic that a Chinese immigrant should find herself in the middle of a genuine Communist struggle session here in America, but that's what happened.

Posted by: rickl at February 03, 2019 09:09 AM (sdi6R)

The more I read about this, the less sympathy I felt for Amelie Wen Zhao. Particularly her complaint about being subjected to unpleasant remarks, which she blames on "Trump's America" -- as if such a thing never could have happened earlier. Also, she whines about not having a voice because she's a non-citizen when such a handicap can be easily remedied -- by actually becoming a citizen. Even though I'm not a fan of these Twitter mobs, Zhao is no martyr and we need to recognize this for what it is: just another instance of the progressives eating one of their own. Under different circumstances, Zhao might very well be part of a mob devouring some other author.

It's kind of like lobsters:

36 I read the lobster book. Lobsters are mobsters. They have rather violent relations with other lobsters, romance not excepted. Even the weakling lobsters are bullies if they can get away with it, sometimes they gang up on the badass lobster. It's a lobster-eat-lobster world and yet there's something comical about them. Fishermen call them bugs.

Posted by: JuJuBee at February 03, 2019 09:17 AM (8YazN)

The lobster book JuJuBee is referring to is The Secret Life of Lobsters: How Fishermen and Scientists Are Unraveling the Mysteries of Our Favorite Crustacean by Trevor Carson:

In this intimate portrait of an island lobstering community and an eccentric band of renegade biologists, journalist Trevor Corson escorts the reader onto the slippery decks of fishing boats, through danger-filled scuba dives, and deep into the churning currents of the Gulf of Maine to learn about the secret undersea lives of lobsters.

In one of his lectures, Jordan Peterson says that the nervous system of a lobster runs on serotonin, similar to our own. [Cathy Newman: "So what you're saying is that we would taste good sautéed in butter and garlic."]

jordan peterson death stare.jpg


Moron Recommendations

30 This week I read Thomas Perry's latest, The Burglar, about an unlikely burglar who stumbles on a (multiple) murder scene and then becomes the target of the killers. As usual, Perry loads this one with lots of interesting tidbits about burglary, scouting targets, alarms and fencing the goods. Recommended.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 03, 2019 09:14 AM (tGSHk)

This sounds like good info for enterpreneurial morons who wish to make a name for themselves.

A book critic for the L.A. Times called Perry the "master of nail-biting success" for his debut novel, The Butcher's Boy:

Murder has always been easy for the Butcher’s Boy—it’s what he was raised to do. But when he kills the senior senator from Colorado and arrives in Las Vegas to pick up his fee, he learns that he has become a liability to his shadowy employers. His actions attract the attention of police specialists who watch the world of organized crime, but though everyone knows that something big is going on, only Elizabeth Waring, a bright young analyst in the Justice Department, works her way closer to the truth, and to the frightening man behind it.

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For all you budding #LearnToCode types out there, take a look at Donald E. Knuth's four volume The Art of Computer Programming in order to embrace properly your bold new future. I can't say honestly that these books helped me nearly as much as having to program upgraded and expanded functionality for a data gathering system interfaced to a spectrometer.

Posted by: PDP-8e: the coding place to be at February 03, 2019 09:39 AM (pNxlR)

Uh, no.

I can't imagine a BuzzFeed opinion writer specializing in gender studies and intersectional Eskimo scrimshaw being able to understand much of anything in any of the four volumes of The Art of Computer Programming, not even those with Ph.D.'s in romantic comedies. So I must assume this advice is offered tongue-in-cheek. Spoilers: TAOCP contains a crap ton of math. A better Knuth book for non-specialists is probably his lecture collection Things a Computer Scientist Rarely Talks About:

In this series of six spirited, informal lectures, Knuth explores the relationships between his vocation and his faith, revealing the unique perspective that his work with computing has lent to his understanding of God.

His starting point is the 3:16 project, an application of mathematical "random sampling" to the books of the Bible. The first lectures tell the story of the project's conception and execution, exploring its many dimensions of language translation, aesthetics, and theological history. Along the way, Knuth explains the many insights he gained from such interdisciplinary work. These theological musings culminate in a surprising final lecture tackling the ideas of infinity, free will, and some of the other big questions that lie at the juncture of theology and computation.

I didn't know until I started poking around that Knuth is a Christian. Although I'd guess that his understanding of God, the Bible, and other theological topics is a lot more liberal than mine, it sounds like he takes his faith seriously. He's one of those guys I don't mind listening to even when I don't agree with him.


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Moronette 'votermom' is putting together a list of moron authors over on the Goodreads site which is intended to be accessible to non-members. Here is the list she has compiled so far. Let her know if there's an author she's missing.

http://www.bookhorde.org/p/aoshq-authors.html

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM




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1 Willow, I knew I was about to get you'd.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 10, 2019 08:58 AM (EZebt)

2 First. And I can't read.

Posted by: Sooner at February 10, 2019 08:58 AM (CMJ27)

3 Currently working on a re-read of the Recluce series by Modesitt. I have to hit it every now and then when I am out of new stuff.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 08:58 AM (mpXpK)

4 I seem to recall a bit from Barbara Tuchman's discussion of the Dreyfus Affair in her book _The Proud Tower_ -- that if Dreyfus himself had not been the man unjustly accused by the Army, he would have been the Army's most strident defender.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 10, 2019 08:59 AM (+yR45)

5 Now that's a library.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 08:59 AM (mpXpK)

6 Good morning book threadists!

I took a break from Bruce Catton to dip back into Lord of the Rings. When I first read it, I found Tom Bombadil boring and kind of silly, but now I really enjoy the description. Savoring my visit to his house.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 08:59 AM (cfSRQ)

7 That library is made of chocolate, right?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 10, 2019 09:00 AM (EZebt)

8 Read all 3 Schiliter Kelly Turnbull books! Great fun and horror!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2019 09:00 AM (JFO2v)

9 The floor of the Monastery Library looks like an Escher painting.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 10, 2019 09:01 AM (TDyHc)

10 I'm wearing pants and everything!

Posted by: fluffy at February 10, 2019 09:02 AM (dCRRg)

11 I thought monks were supposed live humbly. That library ain't humble.

Posted by: Sooner at February 10, 2019 09:02 AM (CMJ27)

12 Read "The Ipcress File" by Len Deighton. Published in 1962 this is from the book's jacket cover: "The Ipcress File is a major event - the American debut of an ingenious and idiosyncratic English writer, already wildly acclaimed for this off-beat and totally modern spy thriller. The Ipcress File is a spyworks with the lid off: daring, suspenseful, cheeky, comic. There has never been anything like it for sheer, unabashed effrontery."

Heh, whatever. The first half reads as though written by a spaz with tourettes. Once I got used to his writing style the second half was okay. Unlike the movie, which is loosely based on the book, the main character in the book is nameless. I prefer the movie.

Some head music:

Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth
https://youtu.be/rYYCiaHhnx4

Ludovico Einaudi - Ora
https://youtu.be/yjprWxdr6q0

Tangerine Dream - Thief (soundtrack 1981)
https://youtu.be/dgXHHJrKgtA

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 10, 2019 09:03 AM (TDyHc)

13 The best chironometers, "they never export them."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlA9Fs350PE

Posted by: bobby ahr at February 10, 2019 09:04 AM (zmZ2x)

14 >>>At the dawn of the Klondike Gold Rush, when capable sled dogs are in high demand, half St. Bernard Buck is wrenched away from his home and forced to survive in the harsh conditions of the Yukon. The movie stars Harrison Ford and Dan Stevens.


Which one plays Buck?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 10, 2019 09:06 AM (0P2a2)

15 I read SPQR XIII: The Year of Confusion by John Maddox Roberts. The story is set in 46 B. C. during the dictatorship of Julius Caesar. Decius is tasked by Caesar to find the murderer of a foreign astrologer. The mystery isn't as good as the others in this series, but one learns much about the politics of the time.

I also read The Clockmaker's Daughter by Kate Morton. This is the story of Birchwood Manor, set on a bend of the Thames, west of London. It is a story of murder, mystery, thievery, love and loss. The story covers over 150 years, and is told my multiple voices, including a ghost. It's beautifully written, but can be confusing at times as the story jumps back and forth in time with multiple characters telling the story in each time period.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 10, 2019 09:06 AM (u1x0c)

16 Catch-22

Based on the book Catch 22 by Joseph Heller
In
the closing months of World War II, bombardier Yossarian desperately
tries to get himself excused from perilous missions. But there's a
catch... The series stars Christopher Abbott, Kyle Chandler, George
Clooney, and Hugh Laurie.



This is going to be an Amazon mini-series. I'm very curious what they're
going to be able to do with it. Interesting casting choices.
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The original large screen movie was great. The ill-fated TV version never really made it into distribution. If I had to guess how this one will come out it will be full of PC crap.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 09:06 AM (mpXpK)

17 Good morning, all! Haven't read all that much this week, being taken up with overseeing a bathroom renovation (sigh!) but I did order a paperback of "The Dry" by Jane Harper, mentioned in last week's Book Thread. A couple of chapters in, so far - not entirely blown away, but as I said; only a few chapters in.
I've come to be very cynical about something blurbed and marketed as a "New York Times Best-seller!!!11!!" I know that for years that status was based on a handful of local NY book stores reporting sales - figures that were fairly easy to manipulate. These days, "New York Times Best-seller!!!!11!!" seems to be the equivalent of a particularly tawdry traveling medicine show posters...

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 10, 2019 09:07 AM (xnmPy)

18 Sci-Fi recommendation:

The World Treasury of Science Fiction

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/
0316349410

--

1000 pages or so and full of really good short stories ranging from works from the 30s up to the 80s (it was published in '89).

Some foreign pieces translated into English, too, which was interesting because sci-fi means different things to different cultures. The other neat part was finding work by big name authors who dipped their toe in the genre but became famous for other styles.

Best $5 I've spent in years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 10, 2019 09:09 AM (LX21o)

19 To continue my thought from the previous thread (and yes, it's book-related)...

The Man of Destiny series was inspired by two things.

First, the awful Star War prequels. I saw it as a huge opportunity lost for backstory and good storytelling. In my mind I had a much better version and my wife convinced me to write it down.

Part of my vision was based on my own experience in politics, which is what ties it to current events. Civil wars take a long time to get going and the Commonwealth at the start is prosperous and peaceful with a tiny and insignificant military. So how do you get a war?

Well, you get it through political ineptitude, rising partisanship, a belief that the other side is inherently wrong and that further debate is pointless.

And so the slide starts, from political stunts to low-level symbolic violence to low-level actual violence to military build-ups and so on.

As the cost mounts, each side becomes angrier and more determined and eventually people think nothing of blasting whole cities apart.

So yes, I wanted to "fix Star Wars," but in so doing, I wanted to map how an inept and selfish political class can bring on a crisis that ultimately destroys them as well.

What's interesting is that I started writing well before the rise of Trump and some of my proof-readers though Darius was Trump in disguise (outsider everyone hates somehow keeps winning).

He isn't, he's based on the late Jerry Roe, but I can see a lot of parallels.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)

20 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 08:59 AM (cfSRQ)

Bought Man of Destiny. Will begin when I finish Cocktails From Hell.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 09:09 AM (7PLM4)

21 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2019 09:09 AM (d1R3N)

22 >>>I didn't know until I started poking around that Knuth is a Christian. Although I'd guess that his understanding of God, the Bible, and other theological topics is a lot more liberal than mine, it sounds like he takes his faith seriously.

Gödel was also a Christian. He even came up with his own ontological proof of God's existence. I don't know enough about second order logic to tell if it's valid.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 10, 2019 09:10 AM (0P2a2)

23 Bought Man of Destiny. Will begin when I finish Cocktails From Hell.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 09:09 AM (7PLM4)

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Great! I hope you enjoy it. Don't forget to leave a good review if you do.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 09:11 AM (cfSRQ)

24 Bookshelves in that monastery library look a little saggy. One of Ace's early projects?

And didn't they already make a movie of Catch 22?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 09:12 AM (nPGq2)

25 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I'm nearing the end of Flight From Terror by Alya Rachmanova. The Bolsheviks are fully into killing the bourgeois at this point, and the author's friend is lamenting their horrible success:

"It's much easier for the Reds", he said. They have their definite slogans, which are clear, simple and readily understandable by the most primitive minds. No one inquires whether or not these things can be accomplished or even whether they've been logically thought through. The Whites have no such formulas to offer them.

It keeps hitting me how things are exactly like this now. Leftists with their catchy slogans, and Republicans with nothin'.

Posted by: April at February 10, 2019 09:13 AM (OX9vb)

26
Interesting article on books being adapted for film or TV that are coming out in 2019. These caught my eye:

What I predicted years ago, was that the metrics of views that entities like Netflix and Amazon have available to them would ultimately decide the content in the following years. They know down to the second how long someone watched a movie, how many watched, how many watched all the way through.

I'm not seeing many SJW oriented movies or programs on your list. Maybe the tide has turned and upper echelon people are returning to the concept of giving the most people the programming that will earn everyone the most money. What a concept.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 09:13 AM (jYje5)

27 Lobster book looks like fun!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2019 09:13 AM (AuDw8)

28 fwiw: joe pesci has been retired for several years. he was slated to play "joey" in clint eastwood's film "jersey boys", ad etwood decided to cast the original actors from the broadway production of the musical.

why would pesci want to play "joey"? because it's based on him! he was instrumental in introducing several of the singers that formed the four seasons musical group, including frankie valli.

pesci was reportedly pissed off they cut him from the movie.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2019 09:14 AM (Pg+x7)

29 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 09:11 AM (cfSRQ)

Will do.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 09:14 AM (7PLM4)

30 9 The floor of the Monastery Library looks like an Escher painting.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 10, 2019 09:01 AM (TDyHc)


You beat me to it.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 09:14 AM (sdi6R)

31 clint eastwood not "ad elwood". damn keyboard splchk wtvr.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2019 09:15 AM (Pg+x7)

32 I've been reading Dr James Thacher's journal from the America Revolution and came across this account of a treaty ceremony with the Indians after Burgoyne surrendered :

"One of the chiefs then took the commissioners , one at a time, by the hand, and danced them round the circle; then rubbing his hand about the grease and blacking of the pot, he blackened the face, first of General Schuyler, and then the other gentlemen, which excited much laughter. "

Thacher's whole journal from the time period o f1775 thru 1783 is quite interesting and available free here:

americanrevolution.org/thacher.php

Posted by: freaked at February 10, 2019 09:15 AM (UdKB7)

33 Which one plays Buck?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 10, 2019 09:06 AM (0P2a2)

Jose the Chihuahua. He bulked up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 09:15 AM (nPGq2)

34 It's ironic that a Chinese immigrant should find herself in the middle of a genuine Communist struggle session here in America, but that's what happened.

Posted by: rickl at February 03, 2019 09:09 AM (sdi6R)

This is now a common Progressive action. The response to Free Speech is to down out the Speaker. Bots, fake accounts, semi-children in their drawers in their parents guest room created all kinds of wailing and crying.

These are all alligator tears! None of it is real! It is digital mass hysteria created by a few to be retweeted, reposted, and regurgitated by people called Media. When someone occasionally tells the TRUTH the rage monster come to crush the story. Rob Lowes joke about Liawatha and Commander in CHIEF was real fukn funny and true. Now it is deleted! Erased from the collective mind as it created tear between the two hemispheres of Progressivism. One side needs the downtrodden, poor, Political Leader that rises to the top of the heap and the other side need a Social Justice courtroom that produces guilt or innocence, then look for the crime.

In this case everyone knows that Elizabeth Warren is a liar, a cheat, and has used a made up minority status to jobs, favors, prestige, and power. The hemispherical tear happens when one realizes that this was manufactured out of thin air about 40 years ago (we have proof from as early as 1986).

#4 Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.

PS Fuck You Liawatha!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2019 09:15 AM (JFO2v)

35 Ah yes deightons unnamed spy (only identified later as harry palmer) is meant to be very down to earth as far removed from bond as possible hence the quotidian details. It's also tangled in the Brits messy involvement in Albania, the kingsman series plays with this set up as eggsy is an up and coming harry palmer.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at February 10, 2019 09:16 AM (Dinhn)

36 Read The Good Shepherd after I'd finished the Hornblower stories.
Forester is great for leadership lessons .
What I remember most from the book was that the crew choose not curse after serving with "the good shepard" ( I forget if he was a captain or higher rank)

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at February 10, 2019 09:17 AM (iouK0)

37 Finally done with "Little Caesar." Kind of an abrupt ending. In this instance, I think the movie did it better.

The more I learn about the real La Cosa Nostra and associates, the more ridiculous the '70s TV shows using "the Syndicate" seem.

Funny how so many of their money-making operations have been usurped by the state.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 10, 2019 09:17 AM (BBoD+)

38 You beat me to it.
Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 09:14 AM (sdi6R)

Heh, not by much. In fact the photo itself looks like a painting.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 10, 2019 09:18 AM (TDyHc)

39 Checking the UK Daily Mail.. looks like the Danes are fed up with immigrants. Shuffled them all off to their own island. lmao!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 10, 2019 09:18 AM (dUJdY)

40 32
Posted by: freaked at February 10, 2019 09:15 AM (UdKB7)


Does this mean that white people culturally appropriated blackface from the Indians? My head will asplode.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 09:18 AM (sdi6R)

41 YAY BOOK THREAD!

a gilt monastery?

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2019 09:18 AM (BJlbN)

42 Shuffled them all off to their own island. lmao!
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 10, 2019 09:18 AM (dUJdY)

The Island of Misfit Boys

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2019 09:19 AM (JFO2v)

43 34
It's ironic that a Chinese immigrant should find herself in the middle
of a genuine Communist struggle session here in America, but that's what
happened.



Posted by: rickl at February 03, 2019 09:09 AM (sdi6R)

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The other salient point is that while the progressives dream of a "brown" America, they have zero use or respect for East Asians. They are happily discriminating against them in college admissions and using racist stereotypes to do it.

I'm increasingly convinced that people become Democrats because it's the only place one can abuse women and use racist ideology with impunity.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 09:19 AM (cfSRQ)

44 Good morning book thread!

I reread Fenton Wood's excellent Pirates of the Electromagnetic Waves (Yankee Republic Book 1) this week. It's an amazing young adult techno-adventure reminiscent of Bertrand R. Brinley's classic Mad Scientists Club. Set in an alternate universe nostalgically reminiscent of mid-century America, Wood tells the story of a boy and his young friends as they struggle to build and operate a radio station. I highly recommend this book, and I look forward to more Yankee Republic tales.

I also read Larry Correia's House of Assassins (Saga of the Forgotten Warrior Book 2). A warrior deliberately designed to be an instrument of the law begins to question his caste-ridden society and the rules he took for granted in this epic fantasy adventure. A good and entertaining tale.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at February 10, 2019 09:19 AM (1pQvR)

45 I am borrowing Good Omens now because of that tv series

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2019 09:20 AM (BJlbN)

46 The Call of the Wild

I loved that story when I was young, loved wilderness adventure stories. "

Waiting to see if they'll ruin another classic by adding a grrl power or gay character."

Buck, the dog, is going to be gay. There'll be a long scene where he establishes his Dominance over the Wolf Pack that way, by rogering them all in turn.

oh, and those poor indians...

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 09:20 AM (V2Yro)

47 On the book front, the most interesting thing I read this week was the New Yorker profile of Dan Mallory, who wrote the best seller, "Woman in the Window" under the pen name of A. J. Finn. https://tinyurl.com/ybm4qjfx

In short, the profile reveals that Mallory had for years falsely claimed to have had brain cancer. Apparently since the profile appeared, he's admitted that this wasn't true and has apologized. I leave it to the Horde to decide how sincere that apology was. (After the profile, I'm skeptical.)

Anyway, that article led me to read two of the Poirot continuation novels by Sophie Hannah, who was a source interviewed in the profile. (Mallory had been one of her editors.) The novels were apparently authorized by Christie's estate. As successors to Christie--definitely not. As not-so-bad mysteries written recently--they're okay.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 10, 2019 09:21 AM (S+f+m)

48 'Does this mean that white people culturally appropriated blackface from the Indians?'

I about choked when I read it. I wish I knew if that Chief was in Lizzy Warren's tribe.

Posted by: freaked at February 10, 2019 09:21 AM (UdKB7)

49 I am borrowing Good Omens now because of that tv series
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2019 09:20 AM (BJlbN)

It's decent. Gaiman, to me, sometimes comes across as thinking he's cleverer than he actually is. Also one of the best characters is Discworld Death reskinned.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 09:22 AM (7PLM4)

50 Man of Destiny is a great read! I still need to read the fourth volume but well done Mr. Lloyd.

Posted by: Dread0 at February 10, 2019 09:24 AM (Bptbo)

51 I about choked when I read it. I wish I knew if that Chief was in Lizzy Warren's tribe.
Posted by: freaked at February 10, 2019 09:21 AM (UdKB7)

I hope they add about 4 bars from the Seminole fight some and the Chop to Hail to the Chief!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2019 09:24 AM (JFO2v)

52 Lobsters are mobsters.


********


I AM NOT A MOBSTER!!

Posted by: Joseph "The Lobster Man" Merrick at February 10, 2019 09:25 AM (m45I2)

53 > Fishermen call them bugs.

A Bug? That's not a bug. Now, THIS is a Bug!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5z6nccl

Posted by: Ibacus Peronii at February 10, 2019 09:26 AM (wNN8A)

54 It keeps hitting me how things are exactly like this now. Leftists with their catchy slogans, and Republicans with nothin'. "

Once it comes to that level of fight, the Right only survives if a Franco or a Pinochet can take charge. The White Russians were too hung up on their old, fading nobility and so no one of this caliber ever arose on their side.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 09:26 AM (V2Yro)

55 As to chironomy , I always thought Herr Hitler was quite good at it . A couple of minutes of Triumph of the Will makes that quite clear.

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at February 10, 2019 09:27 AM (3GR94)

56 Good morning Fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a great week of reading.

It was so nice to meet Horde members at the MoMe yesterday. It was a seriously wonderful time. And I got to meet some of the folks who coerce me into busting my book budget every week.

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 09:27 AM (bmdz3)

57 I AM NOT A MOBSTER!!

Posted by: Joseph "The Lobster Man" Merrick at February 10, 2019 09:25 AM (m45I2)

Nice belt buckle, dude. It looks like Jimmy Hoffa's watch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 09:29 AM (nPGq2)

58 The definition of chironomy is wrong.

Chironomy is a method of conducting Gregorian chant, in which you indicate the notes by pointing to specific parts of one's hand. It was part of the sol-fa method of reading music, and invented by the same monk guy who invented Western musical notation. (IIRC.)

Similar in some ways to the idea of spelling out the ogham alphabet on one's hand.

Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at February 10, 2019 09:30 AM (sF8WE)

59 Allright, I'm admitting something. I watched the Super Bowl. One of the musical highlights (Gladys Knight was tremendous, and Don Lemon can go suck on a lemon, the loser) was the rendition of "America The Beautiful" given by the two teenage sisters from Atlanta, Chloe and Halle.


https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxelgpsp

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comic relief at February 10, 2019 09:30 AM (Z216Q)

60 Kornilov the minister of war had the right idea, kerensky one of the dimmer elements to rise out of the social revolutionaries bollixed it up, and lenim was able to consolidate his forces.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at February 10, 2019 09:31 AM (Dinhn)

61
Man of Destiny is a great read! I still need to read the fourth volume but well done Mr. Lloyd.



Posted by: Dread0 at February 10, 2019 09:24 AM (Bptbo)

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Glad you liked it!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 09:31 AM (cfSRQ)

62 The Charlton Heston version of Call of the Wild appears low budget, plus picture quality from when I watched from tv was really bad.
Very atypical for something with Heston.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at February 10, 2019 09:31 AM (iouK0)

63 That's nice JTB.. glad you had a good time. I'm working towards going to the one in Texas in October. It's about time I met some of you goofballs.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 10, 2019 09:31 AM (dUJdY)

64
I watched the Man in the High Castle season one, beginning to end. Started season two and about five minutes in something pissed me off so much I turned it off and won't go back.

With the metrics Amazon has nowadays they can actually look and sort through the data and see that X number of viewers hit that same exact point and turned it off. Now they have the ability to go back to that scene and figure out what it was and not repeat the same stupid mistake again.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 09:31 AM (jYje5)

65 54 The White Russians were too hung up on their old, fading nobility and so no one of this caliber ever arose on their side.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 09:26 AM (V2Yro)

Much like the GOPe now.

If only Russia had had a Donald Trump.

Posted by: April at February 10, 2019 09:32 AM (OX9vb)

66 What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Nothing. I'm in one of those depressed moods where it actually hurts to pick up a book and read.

I have been listening to Bill Bryson read his own One Summer: America, 1927 and liking that. Bryson's a leftist hack (every one of his books always has throwaways about how much he hates Republicans), but I will grant he is a talented writer.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2019 09:32 AM (Ki5SV)

67 BTW after The Good Shepherd , one might pick up HMS Ulysses/Alistair Horne , the Arctic convoys . I believe it follows somewhat PQ77(?) an actual event/battle. And one the Admiralty still would rather not talk about

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at February 10, 2019 09:32 AM (3GR94)

68 Tolle Lege
Nothin new yet, lots of I wants though.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 09:33 AM (/rm4P)

69 I read Yankee Ships in China Seas by Daniel Henderson. Published in 1946 (but from the anti-Japanese content, obviously started during WWII), it is a survey of the American commerce with China from 1789 to about 1880. Primarily a series of brief biographies and vignettes, the book does give some interesting "human interest" context to the China trade. Apparently the Chinese authorities were generally favorably disposed towards Americans because they did very little in the opium trade compared to the British. A point Henderson makes is that the American clipper ships (very fast sailing vessels) came into to being due to the lack of a significant U.S. Navy: the Americans needed to be able to outrun the pirates. I found the author's approach to look at various topics rather than use a chronological order a bit annoying; it got a little difficult to keep track of when events were happening. Rating = 3.5/5.

I'm currently reading Money Mischief by Milton Friedman. Publish in 1992, it is directed towards the interested layman rather than economists. Only finished the first two chapters, but I have found it to be a bit "dry" but interesting so far. He mentions that (at the time of writing) the world is in the middle of a 20-year experiment on using fiat currency (rather than currency based on a commodity, such as gold) based on nothing but the various governments' abilities to restrain from increasing the money supply and thus causing inflation. Of course, things are even worse now. He makes an interesting point that governments debase their currencies due to either an inability or unwillingness to set taxation to match spending.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 10, 2019 09:33 AM (5Yee7)

70 A great Amazon or Netflix 3 season mini-series
would be "A Canticle for Leibowitz"

...as the book occurs in 3 sections.

Posted by: retropox at February 10, 2019 09:33 AM (bJqSl)

71 Those pants looked to be patterned on -

Stained Glass and Hair


which I believe was the title of a hit by Tommy James and the Shondells in the 60s.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2019 09:35 AM (CRRq9)

72 There's a great movie to be made about Operation Pedestal, the convoy to Malta which fought off waves and waves of air and naval attacks. It's like Zulu on the ocean.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 10, 2019 09:35 AM (+yR45)

73 Tom Hanks (Appolo 13, Cast Away, Sully, Captain Phillips) is going to be in a movie about someone taking a dangerous trip who may not survive?

Awesome.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 09:36 AM (k05pd)

74 Korensky ( think thats right spelling) tried to pull a government together in the beginning of the Russian revolution but once the Communists got going it wasn't going to be stopped.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 09:36 AM (/rm4P)

75
Stained Glass and Hair

which I believe was the title of a hit by Tommy James and the Shondells in the 60s.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2019 09:35 AM


it was the B side to Crimson & Clover

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 10, 2019 09:36 AM (KCxzN)

76 Funny how so many of their money-making operations have been usurped by the state.

Management style, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 10, 2019 09:36 AM (fTQ1B)

77 62 The Charlton Heston version of Call of the Wild appears low budget, plus picture quality from when I watched from tv was really bad.
Very atypical for something with Heston."

The wiki stub says that Heston was so disappointed with it that he publicly asked people not to watch it. As you say, it was clearly a very low budget production.

For a period in the 70's (actually probably started with El Cid, an incredibly dull movie) Heston got stuck with the tag of being the actor who had to die at the end of every one of his movies. He was the Sean Bean of his day.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 09:37 AM (V2Yro)

78 I started Luke Rosiak's book, "Obstruction of Justice," last week. It's an in-depth look at the treachery of the Deep State in the Awan scandal.

Easy reading style, and Rosiak has done yeoman's work researching and investigating this stunningly corrupt (and ongoing) episode in the democrat's Scandalpalooza.

I thought I had followed the Awan story very closely real-time, as many Hordelings no doubt have as well.
But there is much, much more to this saga, and from what I have read so far, "Obstruction of Justice" does an excellent job of bringing the real truth to light.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2019 09:37 AM (NtglE)

79 From the Dark Secrets of Secret Dark Power File-


We all know that AOC is short-hand for -

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

But it also stands for-

Assassin of Cows!!!!



Wake up, sheeple!!!!1111!!!111!1

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2019 09:37 AM (CRRq9)

80 re: Lobster


**********


That's not a bug, it's a creature!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 10, 2019 09:38 AM (m45I2)

81 Savinkov was one of the few with any imagination, he was a bomb thrower in the early era of the sr chronicles in belys petersberg

Posted by: Admiral marcus at February 10, 2019 09:38 AM (Dinhn)

82 72
There's a great movie to be made about Operation Pedestal, the convoy to
Malta which fought off waves and waves of air and naval attacks. It's
like Zulu on the ocean.



Posted by: Trimegistus at February 10, 2019 09:35 AM (+yR45)

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Yes, but it won't be made because
1. War movie
2. No Americans

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 09:39 AM (cfSRQ)

83 72 There's a great movie to be made about Operation Pedestal, the convoy to Malta which fought off waves and waves of air and naval attacks. It's like Zulu on the ocean. "

Is that the one where they had to pass in front of this island with some huge german artillery pieces on top of a mountain facing the sea, and they had to send some special team on to the island to knock them out?

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 09:39 AM (V2Yro)

84 ""The more I read about this, the less sympathy I felt for Amelie Wen
Zhao. Particularly her complaint about being subjected to unpleasant
remarks, which she blames on "Trump's America" -- as if such a thing
never could have happened earlier. Also, she whines about not having a
voice because she's a non-citizen when such a handicap can be easily
remedied -- by actually becoming a citizen. Even though I'm not a fan
of these Twitter mobs, Zhao is no martyr and we need to recognize this
for what it is: just another instance of the progressives eating one of
their own. Under different circumstances, Zhao might very well be part
of a mob devouring some other author.""



As soon as she said "Trump's America" I no longer gave a shit about her. She exposed herself. You don't move from a fucking ass sucking communist country TO America, and then start using the bullshit phrases of the communist left that are designed to mock the most "American" president we had in a looong time. If trump's America sickens you, you don't belong here to start with, and have no fucking clue what America is. Totally SJWs eating their own.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 10, 2019 09:40 AM (9Om/r)

85 No that was guns of navarrine in the Aegean sea from 1961, although they revisited it in 1979.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at February 10, 2019 09:41 AM (Dinhn)

86 The Good Shepherd by Forester is a good book. Shares many of the preoccupations of his Hornblower books, not much like The African Queen. Basically, some of the dumber officers want the convoy escort captain to attack Germans, rather than defend the convoy without stopping, according to doctrine; they accuse him of cowardice when some convoy ships are lost. They learn better.

Convoy defense was actually wargamed in a secret facility by UK Navy guys as part of convoy command training, so they would know why the doctrine was what it was and how it worked. Nobody seems to know the rules anymore or they are still secret; Lindybeige pointed out that the Duke of Edinburgh is about the only guy who took the training who is still alive.

Anyway, the UK did not let our guys take the training, or rather, senior U.S. Navy guys pooh-poohed having our guys take it. So our doctrine had some differences in detail and in experiential belief of commanders.

Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at February 10, 2019 09:42 AM (sF8WE)

87 "Greyhound"
Based on the book "The Good Shepherd" by C.S. Forester
...Plus, this one sounds interesting enough that I think I'm going to have to read the book first.


Not a bad book, it is more about the U.S. destroyer skipper's dealing with his internal doubts than the ASW aspect. He is a devout Lutheran; we'll see if that survives the transition to the big screen.

I don't think it is as good as Rayner's The Enemy Below, but a decent read none-the-less. Rayner's book is more about the anti-submarine warfare aspects and that is what interested me. (Rayner was a British escort skipper in the North Atlantic and knew precisely of what he wrote.)

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 10, 2019 09:42 AM (5Yee7)

88 I think votermom said last week that she tweeted support and encouragement to Zhao. Maybe if she sees enough support from Trump voters, the light bulb will switch on.

I dunno. I've given up trying to persuade leftists with logic and reason.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 09:43 AM (sdi6R)

89 "fisherman call lobsters bugs" ... I hadn't heard that, but they are like giant "mud bugs" (craw fish). They are closely related ... and those claws out front are not made for romance.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2019 09:43 AM (Cus5s)

90 14 >>>At the dawn of the Klondike Gold Rush, when capable sled dogs are in high demand, half St. Bernard Buck is wrenched away from his home and forced to survive in the harsh conditions of the Yukon. The movie stars Harrison Ford and Dan Stevens.

Which one plays Buck?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 10, 2019 09:06 AM (0P2a2)


Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 09:44 AM (9O8yT)

91 Candace Millard's The River Of Doubt.


Many of you probably have read this one, but it was new to me (Candace takes a great picture by the way, and no disrespect intended). Anyway, this was a very fine story of the harrowing river trip Teddy Roosevelt took after his election loss, a trip that very nearly killed him and most every one else in his expedition. Well-written, gripping story and some new geography to learn about.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comic relief at February 10, 2019 09:45 AM (Z216Q)

92 I've read portions of some of Knuth's books. It's more tedious than difficult, but can be very useful on an as needed basis. Reading them cover to cover is a waste of time even if you're into that stuff.

And lobsters are certainly not MY favorite crustacean. Fisherman are right, they're just overgrown bugs. People in 3rd world countries eat bugs. Because they have to.

Posted by: I like cookies at February 10, 2019 09:45 AM (xxAFD)

93 BTW I would not the soy boys in H wood anywhere near Catch-22 , for all the usual reasons . But one thing they will not get right and get terribly wrong is that it is an anti-war movie . The key and essential moment is when Yossarian and the squadron are on a bombing mission over a v hot target . The lead aircraft is hit and destroyed which makes Y then the lead aircraft . He takes the group around and back to the IP , the AA now having the correct course and altitude , he goes back to finish the job despite the massively increased danger. It's his job and when he must do it , he does it . A cynical and sarcastic kid to be sure , but when the chips are down , he steps up....BTW somebody help the bombardier.

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at February 10, 2019 09:47 AM (3GR94)

94 Thanks to All Hail Eris and her intriguing quotes from Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith, I dug out my complete Lovecraft. The 'shock' endings have been taken over by familiarity with with the genre. But his ability to establish an atmosphere for the reader is undimmed by time. Like Robert E. Howard, lovecraft uses archaic words just enough to give an impression of the ancient intruding on the present to add depth to his descriptions The technique is still damn effective.

After a few more stories, I'll switch to Clark Ashton Smith for a while. These pulp magazine short stories are addictive.

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 09:47 AM (bmdz3)

95 There's a great movie to be made about Operation Pedestal, the convoy to
Malta which fought off waves and waves of air and naval attacks. It's
like Zulu on the ocean.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 10, 2019 09:35 AM (+yR45)

War movies and series that will never be made in the United States today:

Dan Daly in the Boxer Rebellion
Unit 731
Witold Pilecki, Undercover Agent in Auschwitz
"Larry Thorne"
WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVE
Battle of the Chosin Reservoir
The war between Vietnam and China
Vietnam VS Pol Pot
Basically anything in sub-Saharan Africa that doesn't involve whites



Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 09:48 AM (7PLM4)

96 By the way, Millard recently published a book on Churchill and Boer War which I have on my nightstand to read next. The Boer War is tough stuff but I'm interested to learn about the young Churchill in it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comic relief at February 10, 2019 09:49 AM (Z216Q)

97 85 No that was guns of navarrine in the Aegean sea from 1961, although they revisited it in 1979."

I thought the guns of navarrine was where Harrison Ford had to blow up some big dam that the Germans were guarding.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 09:49 AM (V2Yro)

98 Buck, the dog, is going to be gay. There'll be a long scene where he establishes his Dominance over the Wolf Pack that way, by rogering them all in turn.

oh, and those poor indians...

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 09:20 AM (V2Yro)


Don't worry, they'll all be gay, too.

"Prairie fairies" they used to be called.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 09:50 AM (9O8yT)

99 On the ww2 ship theme:
H.M.S. Marlborough Will Enter Harbour.
A short novel by Monsarrat, about an escort ship struggling to get to safety after being torpedoed.
The Cruel Sea is longer & better known, but I've yet to get through it.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at February 10, 2019 09:50 AM (iouK0)

100 Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at February 10, 2019 09:47 AM (3GR94)

That's... Memphis Belle? Coincidence?

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 09:51 AM (7PLM4)

101 .BTW somebody help the bombardier.
Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at February 10, 2019 09:47 AM (3GR94)

I'm the bombardier.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 09:52 AM (cxHbL)

102 I don't think that much of Catch-22. It's too over the top. It makes some points, but goes way too far and to me that compromises it.

Yes, there's all manner of dumb stuff going on in wartime, but it makes it a slapstick cartoon.

I have zero interest in seeing a movie of it.

Evelyn Waugh's Sword of Honour is much better, but the miniseries they made of it is lacking. I think the problem of filming books by Evelyn Waugh is that he's such a great writer than many of the jokes don't translate well.

Yes, yes, I know, I'm the resident Evelyn Waugh snob. I'll go away now.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 10, 2019 09:52 AM (cfSRQ)

103 I've always thought Tom Hanks would play a great Major Major Major Major, if they ever remake the stupid version of Catch-22 into a real movie. He's got the right earnest bewilderment and hapless look about him.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comic relief at February 10, 2019 09:53 AM (Z216Q)

104 Had started Light it Up by Nick Petrie last week and finished it this week, It is the third book in his series about Peter Ash, a veteran with a "certain set of skills". Well-written and tightly plotted and finds characters still dealing with issues from previous books- Ash has PTSD with problems being indoors for long periods of time, which kind of causes issues when one needs to be indoors.New book in series just came out and I have an Amazon gift card tempting me to purchase it...

Posted by: Charlotte at February 10, 2019 09:53 AM (JwHYp)

105 Read "The Ipcress File" by Len Deighton. Published in 1962 ... I prefer the movie.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 10, 2019 09:03 AM (TDyHc)


I concur. The book is disappointing compared to the movie. One of the exceptions to the rule that the source material is better than the movie.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 10, 2019 09:54 AM (5Yee7)

106 63 ... Jewells, It is definitely worth attending a MoMe. I got to meet CBD and thank him for all his threads. I got to meet All Hail Eris and blame her for expanding my reading of pulp magazine adventure and horror stories. And so many others. It was one of the most enjoyable social events I've ever been to. The Horde is diverse (in the best sense) and interesting bunch imaginable.

I don't want to derail the book thread too much but I'll be talking about the MoMe on all the threads today.

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 09:55 AM (bmdz3)

107
Well, duh.

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/
asos-confuses-internet-with-horrific-trend

Posted by: Assless Chaps at February 10, 2019 09:55 AM (wNN8A)

108 Hey, Berserker! Did you see my comment in the EMT?

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=379718#c30274906

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 09:56 AM (sdi6R)

109 I'm really looking forward to Good Omens on Amazon Prime! The trailers look really good and true to the book.
I re-read Heinlein's Waldo Magic Inc. this weekend.. haven't read it in years.. Magic Inc holds up pretty well.. Waldo, not so much in our digital age.. but still a fun read.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 10, 2019 09:57 AM (438dO)

110 I read Jedediah Bila's #DoNotDisturb book, which I thought was a self help but actually it's a memoir, just organized aroubd tye theme of why she carves out cellphone free time now.
It's ok.

First book from.first book thread of the year down

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2019 09:57 AM (BJlbN)

111 The Russian general was Kerensky.

A movie about the Winged Hussars was Day of the Siege with F Murray Abraham. A lot of cgi but worth it when the hussars descend on the Turks.

Posted by: Dread0 at February 10, 2019 09:57 AM (Bptbo)

112 I did pick up a new book called Hollywood's Lost Backlot, which is about the old Ince Ranch, later taken over by DeMille and now an Amazon HQ. It was where "Tara" was built as well as being part of King Kong and, later, home of TV shows like Batman (especially the bit where the Batmobile drives out of the hidden cave), Green Hornet and Andy Griffith. But, as I said above, I haven't had the heart to begin reading.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2019 09:58 AM (Ki5SV)

113 "Also, I had heard that Jimmy Hoffa was buried in one of the end zones of Meadowlands Stadium, so we'll see what they say about that."

The book maintains he was cremated within hours of being killed.

I don't remember if they said what happened to the ashes.

Posted by: NCC at February 10, 2019 09:58 AM (tLoaY)

114 Morning Readers!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2019 10:00 AM (MVjcR)

115
67 BTW after The Good Shepherd , one might pick up HMS Ulysses/Alistair Horne , the Arctic convoys . I believe it follows somewhat PQ77(?) an actual event/battle. And one the Admiralty still would rather not talk about
Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at February 10, 2019 09:32 AM (3GR94)
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Is that the one in which an escort carrier came down a sea so large she buried her bows to the point the flight deck was peeled back and bent up?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 10, 2019 10:01 AM (WEBkv)

116 OM, I think it was, linked an interesting conversation between Raymond Chandler and Ian Fleming from the BBC. It's worth reposting here, in case people missed it. You have to listen carefully, because the recording isn't the best, but it's interesting.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3rqfdgt

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comic relief at February 10, 2019 10:03 AM (Z216Q)

117 69 I read Yankee Ships in China Seas by Daniel Henderson. Published in 1946 (but from the anti-Japanese content, obviously started during WWII), it is a survey of the American commerce with China from 1789 to about 1880.
...
A point Henderson makes is that the American clipper ships (very fast sailing vessels) came into to being due to the lack of a significant U.S. Navy: the Americans needed to be able to outrun the pirates.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 10, 2019 09:33 AM (5Yee7)


Sounds interesting, but I'd be skeptical about that argument. The Brits too were into fast clippers, and they certainly had a navy. Also, the USN during the late sailing days was far from contemptible in size. Nowhere near so small as the Jeffersonian and post-Civil War eras.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:05 AM (VaN/j)

118 If I remember correctly the last three planes ( and they might have been Hurricanes) based on Malta at that time were known as Faith, Hope and Charity.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 10:05 AM (/rm4P)

119 "Also, I had heard that Jimmy Hoffa was buried in one of the end zones of Meadowlands Stadium, so we'll see what they say about that."


That stadium was demolished in 2010....I don't think Jimbo was there.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 10:06 AM (cxHbL)

120 I can recommend the audio version of Catch 22. (Free, in my library system). Narrator does a great job with this long book that definitely gets beyond absurd at some points.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at February 10, 2019 10:06 AM (iouK0)

121 Hi I would like to join your Goodreads bookclub

Posted by: Jill Dillard at February 10, 2019 10:06 AM (BCKGm)

122 Gödel was also a Christian. He even came up with his own ontological proof of God's existence. I don't know enough about second order logic to tell if it's valid.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 10, 2019 09:10 AM (0P2a2)
_______________________

"They (evolutionists) challenge science to prove the existence of God. But must we really light a candle to see the sun? They say they cannot visualize a Designer. Well, can a physicist visualize an electron? What strange rationale makes some physicists accept the inconceivable electron as real while refusing to accept the reality of a Designer on the grounds that they cannot conceive Him?"

Werner von Braun


https://tinyurl.com/y2mrvn7h

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 10, 2019 10:07 AM (WEBkv)

123 I thought Buck, the dog in Call of the Wild, was a German Shepherd, or at least some type of Wolfdog.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 10, 2019 10:07 AM (MkcN1)

124 72 There's a great movie to be made about Operation Pedestal, the convoy to Malta which fought off waves and waves of air and naval attacks. It's like Zulu on the ocean.
Posted by: Trimegistus at February 10, 2019 09:35 AM (+yR45)


Didn't know that. I do see it's listed on IMDB.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:08 AM (VaN/j)

125 Hi, and welcome, Jill!

Posted by: April at February 10, 2019 10:10 AM (OX9vb)

126 Lobster book looks like fun!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



I am reading the lobster book now. The guy seems to have gone to the Mark Kurlansky (Cod, Salt) School of Writing Book-length Magazine Articles.

It's still fun, I love everything about lobsters.

And this is a mostly drive-by post and a thanks to everyone at the MoMe. That was a hoot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 10, 2019 10:10 AM (dCbET)

127 Hey, Berserker! Did you see my comment in the EMT?



http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86post=379718#c30274906

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 09:56 AM (sdi6R)



You mean this?


And you gotta love the guy's name. If a metal guitarist called himself Troy Thrash we'd laugh at him.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 08:12 AM (sdi6R)


I'm pretty sure I would laugh too.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 10, 2019 10:11 AM (9Om/r)

128 Perhaps a cup of tea will improve my mood, though I doubt it. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2019 10:13 AM (Ki5SV)

129 Speaking of books to movies, I stumbled across a miniseries of Len Deighton's SS-GB. I've watched just the first two episodes and it's OK. I hadn't realized t hat I had developed such a mental image of protagonist Douglas Archer but I do know that I hadn't seen him as the pretty boy actor they have playing him.

A remake of Catch 22? Back in the day, they said that the novel could not be made into a movie. The chaos of the novel simply could not be translated to the screen. I thought the Alan Arkin version was pretty good (and Joseph Heller liked it) but I fear for one of my favorite books in this age lunacy. I've often thought that this age of lunacy is ripe for a Catch 22 style sacred cow skewering but I fear in this production the sacred cows will remain unskewered and the usual scapegoats will be BBQed.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 10:13 AM (+y/Ru)

130 I believe Amazon Prime also streams the other BBC Pratchett adaptations (Hogfather, Colour of Magic, Going Postal).

BBC wiol a
so be filming The Watch this year I think.

Another upcoming tv adaptation is His Dark Materials - Philip Pullman ' Golden Compass world.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2019 10:14 AM (BJlbN)

131 The Malta planes were Gladiators, among the last of the front line biplanes.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at February 10, 2019 10:15 AM (iouK0)

132
And this is a mostly drive-by post and a thanks to everyone at the MoMe. That was a hoot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 10, 2019 10:10 AM


You attended an event that would invite someone of your sort? That's why I stayed away. Some extremely questionable judgement involved.

Also, I'm allergic to shiv wounds.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 10:15 AM (jYje5)

133 118 If I remember correctly the last three planes ( and they might have been Hurricanes) based on Malta at that time were known as Faith, Hope and Charity.
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 10:05 AM (/rm4P)]/i]

They were Gladiators. The were actually RN planes, but flown by RAF pilots. Cunningham's memoir ("A Sailor's Odyssey, which is quite good) says he caught shit from the Admiralty for unauthorized transfer of Fleet Air Arm fighters to another service.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:16 AM (VaN/j)

134 It's been a long time since I read "The Call of the Wild" but I recall that after the natives kill Buck's master - the only man who managed to earn Buck's love and loyalty - Buck rampages though their tribe, killing as many of them as he can before running off and returning to the wild. I am positive that ending will NOT be in the movie, or the plot will be changed so Buck's master is a noble Eskimo killed by white men. Buck will take his revenge by killing white settlers - and the SJWs will applaud.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)

135 I misread the Pedestal entry on IMDB. It was apparently something for TV.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:17 AM (VaN/j)

136 Hi Votermom! See #121

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2019 10:18 AM (NtglE)

137 Last week Jim S. brought up "Present Concerns", a collection of magazine and newspaper articles written by CS Lewis in the 1940s, 50s and early 60s. I hadn't heard of this book before, which is unusual. The articles are a bit disconcerting. I'm used to Lewis' longer works on academic and apologia. These pieces are more like a letter to an acquaintance. It adds a new, at least new to me, dimension to Lewis and is definitely worth reading.

The disturbing aspect is how Lewis foresaw so many aspects of what is wrong with western culture now. It also reinforces the value he places on individuals which is a big part of his appeal for me. This is Lewis as Nostradomus.

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 10:20 AM (bmdz3)

138 I remember liking The Good Shepard in my teens. Haven't read it since. I read all the Forrester I could get back then. The one that sticks best, oddly enough, is a non-naval novel. The Sky and the Forest, set in the Congo. A chief and his son are caught by Arab slavers, but escape and make their way home.

One thing that really came through was how difficult it was for them to form concepts for which they had no language. This was before I read 1984, which makes an similar point.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:20 AM (VaN/j)

139 134 It's been a long time since I read "The Call of the Wild" but I recall that after the natives kill Buck's master - the only man who managed to earn Buck's love and loyalty - Buck rampages though their tribe, killing as many of them as he can before running off and returning to the wild. I am positive that ending will NOT be in the movie, or the plot will be changed so Buck's master is a noble Eskimo killed by white men. Buck will take his revenge by killing white settlers - and the SJWs will applaud.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)

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I believe you're correct and, minor quibble, most likely it will be a homosexual Eskimo who befriends Buck and will be killed by intolerant whites.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 10, 2019 10:20 AM (WEBkv)

140 Based on the book The Good Shepherd by C.S. Forester
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I have many of Forester's books, though not all. The complete Hornblower collection, of course, 'Rifleman Dodd', 'African Queen', 'The Gun', and others.

I recall being home on leave from the service, and perusing the bookshelves for something to read. There was a copy of 'The Good Shepherd' there, and I asked my mother about it. She assured me that it was a good read, and so it was.

It now resides on my bookshelf. I just took it down, to check, and assume that it is a first printing (1955). I find in the front, a newspaper clipping which is a review of the book. It also mentions price, $3.95.

So many decades ago. How odd that the Book Thread should reconnect me with a conversation with my mother. How long ago? Half a century.



Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2019 10:21 AM (YvUf/)

141 118 If I remember correctly the last three planes ( and they might have been Hurricanes) based on Malta at that time were known as Faith, Hope and Charity.
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 10:05 AM (/rm4P)


Al Stewart referenced them in his song "Flying Sorcery".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klsTowdcEsk

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 10:22 AM (sdi6R)

142 Hi Jill,

Welcome aboard. Here's the link for the book club:

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2019 10:22 AM (NtglE)

143 On thinking on it, there is a serious IPCRESS File vibe to Good Omens. At least to the point of the mad scramble to prevent something that every player is committed to.

Makes me think of what you mentioned in the earlier thread, Vanya.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2019 10:23 AM (mUa7G)

144 137 Last week Jim S. brought up "Present Concerns", a collection of magazine and newspaper articles written by CS Lewis in the 1940s, 50s and early 60s. I hadn't heard of this book before, which is unusual. The articles are a bit disconcerting. I'm used to Lewis' longer works on academic and apologia. These pieces are more like a letter to an acquaintance. It adds a new, at least new to me, dimension to Lewis and is definitely worth reading.

The disturbing aspect is how Lewis foresaw so many aspects of what is wrong with western culture now. It also reinforces the value he places on individuals which is a big part of his appeal for me. This is Lewis as Nostradomus.
Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 10:20 AM (bmdz3)


Yes. I've just been rereading it. The two that really stood out were "Democratic Education" and "After Priggery - What?" The former pretty much defines what has happened in schools, the latter deals with how we should treat dishonest journalists.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)

145 Jill: There should not be a period at the end of the link. Here's a good one.

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2019 10:24 AM (NtglE)

146 Ah, 'The Butcher's Boy' ... one of my first mystery novels. Excellent reading for a teenager!

Posted by: Packetman at February 10, 2019 10:24 AM (cpHtP)

147 Jewells

Received my AoS keychain yesterday.

It's gorgeous!!

Thanks so much!

Posted by: Sixkiller at February 10, 2019 10:25 AM (POz6S)

148 I had an uncle Bob who was a Maine lobsterman.
He and his brother Shep used to go out together and set traps.
One day, he went out and they took my aunt Beth with them.
Well, aunt Beth was a rather large and pleasant woman. She took to setting the traps like a champ.
But, she was a bit pigeon chested, so one time she goes to set a trap, loses her balance and boop, over the side she goes.
The uncles looked all over for her, but she was way down there.
Gone.
They knew auntie would pop up eventually, so they went back to port and made grilled cheese sandwiches.
Uncle Bob came in to the bait shop a week later and Shep asked about Beth.
"She pop up?"
"Ayah, she done pop up day before yesterday."
"Did you bring her in?"
"Well, funny thing was, Beth popped up and she had five or six lobsters hanging all over her. And they was full gauge keepers. FULL GAUGE KEEPERS I tells ya."
"So, I took the lobsters from her, then I set her and threw her back in..."

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 10, 2019 10:25 AM (w7KSn)

149 Posted by: Sixkiller at February 10, 2019 10:25 AM (POz6S)

Oh great! Glad you like it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 10, 2019 10:26 AM (dUJdY)

150 The normal pattern of the novel has the narrative build to a climax, where the trepidations of the hero reach that pinnacle, where all his inner will is called upon to prevail over the villain (the giant lobster?).


That pattern makes a good story, but history is full of tragedies (which are maybe less fun to read, but useful). The SJWs have AOC as their hero, and live in that fantasy world, after having the narrative built for them by the MSM. America (especially white male Christian) is their villain, and globalists are writing the script via the MSM and Hollywood, casting themselves as the super heroes against "evil nationalism".

the better novels are by writers expressing what they have learned from real life perils, and losses. On a personal level they reveal heroes and villains, but it takes a dystopian novel like Orwell's "1984" to reveal the deeper root of the terror. Or Ace has been referring to the "firemen" of Fahrenheit 451, for our intrepid "journolistas" that insist on burning down the truth tellers.


One thing I don't like about the superhero stories, is it builds a sort of inaction into the normies, as they wait for someone with super powers to save them. Even religion can be the "opiate of the masses" if people don't understand a call to personal action (till the super hero JC returns in power). We must recapture the spirit of the founders to prevail, Trump is useful but has no super powers.


that's all ... cheers

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2019 10:26 AM (Cus5s)

151 IrishEi, cool breeze is on it

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2019 10:27 AM (BJlbN)

152 107
https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/
asos-confuses-internet-with-horrific-trend
Posted by: Assless Chaps at February 10, 2019 09:55 AM (wNN8A)

Looks like something Madonna would wear.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 10:27 AM (gbepJ)

153 I finished "Over My Dead Body", by Rex Stout. Another in a long line of superb Nero Wolfe books. I've learned not to start a Nero Wolfe story unless I can read it without interruption. I always want to know what happens next and it REALLY bugs me when I have to wait to get back to the book.

PS: I have yet to solve a Nero Wolfe story before the end. That is annoying (after all, I'm a bright, young fellow) but adds to the entertainment.

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 10:27 AM (bmdz3)

154 Call of the Wild made my wife cry so hard she never would try White Fang, which is the same plot line in reverse.

I can see the former being made now, up to a point. The dog escapes from heteronormative cis-colonialist White Civilization. (But isn't the final shift because of a female wolf? That has to change.)

White Fang shows a wolf-dog who ends up liking "the gods" of evil patriarchy, and even defending their property rights. (Not to mention the violence.) That cannot be borne.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:28 AM (VaN/j)

155
The disturbing aspect is how Lewis foresaw so many aspects of what is wrong with western culture now. It also reinforces the value he places on individuals which is a big part of his appeal for me. This is Lewis as Nostradomus.
Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 10:20 AM (bmdz3)

See also: Screwtape Proposes A Toast

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 10:30 AM (7PLM4)

156 PS: I have yet to solve a Nero Wolfe story before the end. That is annoying (after all, I'm a bright, young fellow) but adds to the entertainment.
Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 10:27 AM (bmdz3)


He's hard to figure. Offhand, the only one I caught was "Champagne for One." And I think it was meant to be easy; Sgt Purley Stebbins gets it too.

I'd like to get out some more I know I've got boxed up, but I can't do the lifting yet. (Otherwise I'm in pretty good shape,though.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:31 AM (VaN/j)

157 Sorry for the OT, but "Face the Nation" just aired an interview with Gov. Northam. Among other things, he said he would not resign because right now, Virginia needs a leader with "a moral compass." Surprisingly, he did not instantly burst into flames.

Also Gayle King, who did the interview, talked about how this is clearly a source of anguish to him, or something like that. The Dems are officially walking this back.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 10, 2019 10:33 AM (2PXwn)

158 White Fang shows a wolf-dog who ends up liking "the gods" of evil patriarchy, and even defending their property rights. (Not to mention the violence.) That cannot be borne.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:28 AM (VaN/j)
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I see a future as a MSM movie reviewer.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 10, 2019 10:33 AM (WEBkv)

159 Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 10:22 AM

Another I never heard, guess I will rectify that later on.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 10:34 AM (/rm4P)

160 "So, I took the lobsters from her, then I set her and threw her back in..."
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 10, 2019 10:25 AM
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https://youtu.be/u9LYvER9Lao

Posted by: Bert and I at February 10, 2019 10:35 AM (wNN8A)

161 I'd like to get out some more I know I've got boxed up, but I can't do the lifting yet. (Otherwise I'm in pretty good shape,though.)
Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:31 AM (VaN/j)

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Kenny Rogers:

https://tinyurl.com/objaswz

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 10, 2019 10:37 AM (WEBkv)

162 But one thing they will not get right and get terribly wrong is that it is an anti-war movie .

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I concur. I doubt that Heller, a Jew, was saying that the war was just so terrible that we should have just let Hitler have Europe rather than dirty our hands.

Incidentally, The Bridgebusters: The True Story of the Catch 22 Bomb Wing by Thomas McKelvey Cleaver is very interesting. All the most unbelievable parts of Catch 22 were true. SPOILER ALERT!!! The most disappointing part is that like Youssarian, Heller made a deal to get out of combat. Like Youssarian the deal involved making brass look good; he participated in making a propaganda film about how swell the commanders are. Unlike Youssarian, he didn't back out. I've forgotten but Heller did fly an enormous number of combat missions (I'm thinking 60) but he must have been a tortured soul as evidenced by him having Youssarian do what he did not.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 10:37 AM (+y/Ru)

163 One thing I don't like about the superhero stories,
is it builds a sort of inaction into the normies, as they wait for
someone with super powers to save them. Even religion can be the "opiate
of the masses" if people don't understand a call to personal action
(till the super hero JC returns in power). We must recapture the spirit
of the founders to prevail, Trump is useful but has no super powers.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2019 10:26 AM (Cus5s)


I always thought it was a terrible mistake to claim the role of Jimmy Olsen in the early Superman comics was to give the kids reading the comics a "role to play" in the whole thing. The role to play for the reader was Superman doing super things. Jimmy Olsen was the role for the reader to imagine his friends into.

I was Superman. Jimmy Olsen was my amazed friends.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2019 10:37 AM (mUa7G)

164 "So, I took the lobsters from her, then I set her and threw her back in..."
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 10, 2019 10:25 AM (w7KSn)
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"MASH Goes to Maine" did that joke.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 10, 2019 10:38 AM (WEBkv)

165 On a visit to a friend in Maine, I met her friend that did some lobster trapping. His family had a hotel on the coast in Bar Harbor, but not enough influence I guess, to stop some guy from stealing lobsters from his traps.
He told me he sat out on an island once, and watched and observed this guy running his traps. So he went and talked to the thief, said "hey, I saw you do it, you have a family, much more to lose than I do". I forget exactly what else, but a little heavier on the implied threat. And that was the end of the theft.

He was a cool guy, but he was probably serious. Life takes some serious proactive effort at times, especially now that our JustUs system mostly serves the elite crooks. Maybe video and a lawyer would be useful at times, but even that can get expensive. Maybe we will all have to form our own gangs ... America's outcome is uncertain.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2019 10:40 AM (Cus5s)

166 OT/

I just got suspended from Twitter for posting #LearnToCode. It wasn't even at a journalist but a pseudo-coded loop in reply to Jack Posobiec posting "Governor Coonman" 16 times in a row. Twitter REALLY doesn't like that hashtag!

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 10, 2019 10:40 AM (Xqo6t)

167 Probably apocryphal, but too good not to share:

Steve Jobs: "It's an honor to meet you, Professor Knuth. I've read all your books."

Don Knuth: "You're full of shit.'


> Although I'd guess that his understanding of God, the Bible, and other theological topics is a lot more liberal than mine, it sounds like he takes his faith seriously.

As far as I know, he's a fairly standard old-school Lutheran, so I guess that would depend on what your understanding is.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 10:41 AM (0OWcv)

168 I've been reading Jay Winik's "The Great Upheaval" about the last decades of the 18th Century. There was a lot of interplay between America, France, and Russia.

Empress Catherine of Russia was apparently quite a hottie in her youth, and she still managed to bend men to her will as she aged.

Winik looks like a douche in the book jacket photo, and it says that he is on the governing council of the National Endowment for the Humanities. So he's definitely a lib.

He describes Russia's war against the Ottoman Empire as a "holy war" against the "infidels". Gee, do you think that maybe Russia was sick and tired of being victimized and enslaved by the Muslims for centuries?

It's a good book overall, though.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 10:42 AM (sdi6R)

169 Shhhhhhh

Posted by: RBG at February 10, 2019 10:42 AM (MAstk)

170 He was a cool guy, but he was probably serious. Life takes some serious proactive effort at times, especially now that our JustUs system mostly serves the elite crooks. Maybe video and a lawyer would be useful at times, but even that can get expensive. Maybe we will all have to form our own gangs ... America's outcome is uncertain.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2019 10:40 AM (Cus5s)
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Knew a guy who trapped during the winter, MN, who discovered his traps were being robbed.

Reset his traps and waited for the thief to show, put a bullet next to the guys head and told him in no uncertain terms that was a warning.

I knew the guy well enough to know he would have done exactly what he said he'd done.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 10, 2019 10:46 AM (WEBkv)

171 "I was Superman. Jimmy Olsen was my amazed friends.Posted by: Kindltot

my closest friend and neighbor from grade school broke his arm when he tried to fly down the basement stairs as Superman. Or so he told me later, I didn't know him then. I think maybe he had a cape on or some such.
Another neighbor was always playing Underdog. Maybe it instills something good, idk. But imo it somewhat negates the hard work/discipline that is the real path to achievement. But maybe just the notion of conquering villains is good.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2019 10:46 AM (Cus5s)

172 I finished The Man in the High Castle. Philip K. Dick always comes up with a fascinating premise and interesting ideas, and the little details he puts in always flesh out his world. The problem is, he doesn't seem to know how to tell a "story" in that the book just seems made up of random happenings.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 10, 2019 10:47 AM (l9m7l)

173 Just received a copy of Remodern America, by Richard Bledsoe. Blurb says "Elitists have weaponized art into an assault on the foundations of our culture."

Haven't started it yet, but at least it should offer another viewpoint than the artist who did that pink whatever on the blog yesterday.

Posted by: Lirio100 at February 10, 2019 10:47 AM (JK7Jw)

174 168
I've been reading Jay Winik's "The Great Upheaval" about the last
decades of the 18th Century. There was a lot of interplay between
America, France, and Russia."

It's an excellent book. And Winik does not strike me as a prog at all. He certainly does not downplay the excesses of the French Revolution.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 10:48 AM (d6Ksn)

175 he caught shit from the Admiralty for unauthorized transfer of Fleet Air Arm fighters to another service.

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Winning the war is OK but the important thing is to defeat the rival services.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 10:48 AM (+y/Ru)

176 Ugh. A terrible week. In spite of being smugly self-assured that I would be untouched by the flu (having had The Shot), I became unspeakably ill last weekend. I haven't been this sick in..., well, ever.

In the occasional lucid moments, this place has pretty much been my only human contact for the past week. Trying to get up the strength to attend the funeral of a friend this afternoon, hoping I'm no longer contagious.

I've tried filling the non-delirium moments by reading 'A Beautiful Mind', the biography of John Nash. I have found it to be the singularly most depressing thing that I have read, which is saying something.

I'm beginning to doubt that I will finish it. There are some people's lives which are so disturbing, so dysfunctional, that one would rather not brush up against them, even vicariously.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2019 10:49 AM (U7Mh9)

177 I just checked Amazon. _Flight From Terror_ by Alya Rachmanova is 111.00 or so in used hardcover, and that's it.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at February 10, 2019 10:50 AM (Clxcy)

178 Philip K Dick used to write high on speed. That would explain things, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 10:51 AM (1UZdv)

179 168 I've been reading Jay Winik's "The Great Upheaval" about the last decades of the 18th Century. There was a lot of interplay between America, France, and Russia.

Empress Catherine of Russia was apparently quite a hottie in her youth, and she still managed to bend men to her will as she aged.

Winik looks like a douche in the book jacket photo, and it says that he is on the governing council of the National Endowment for the Humanities. So he's definitely a lib.

He describes Russia's war against the Ottoman Empire as a "holy war" against the "infidels". Gee, do you think that maybe Russia was sick and tired of being victimized and enslaved by the Muslims for centuries?

It's a good book overall, though.
Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 10:42 AM (sdi6R)


An interesting thing about the 18th C is that in most of Europe the long-lasting fight between kings and aristocrats had been decided, one way or the other. In Britain, the aristocracy won. In France (especially) and Russia, the kings did (and the aristocracy became just hangers on and an officer class.)

But historically, they had been in opposition for centuries, if not forever.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:52 AM (VaN/j)

180 he said he would not resign because right now, Virginia needs a leader with "a moral compass."

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Recalibrate! Recalibrate!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 10:52 AM (+y/Ru)

181 177 I just checked Amazon. _Flight From Terror_ by Alya Rachmanova is 111.00 or so in used hardcover, and that's it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at February 10, 2019 10:50 AM (Clxcy)

I found it at an antique store for $3.00.

I'd loan it to you if you like!

Posted by: April at February 10, 2019 10:52 AM (OX9vb)

182 Led by the likes of AOC, the Ds are going all-in on the need to end the world as we know it, because if we don't it will be the end of the world as we know it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 10:53 AM (1UZdv)

183 Katy Tur on Meet the Press. She has absurdly large tits. But then her father was a man.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 10:55 AM (1UZdv)

184 I just checked Amazon. _Flight From Terror_ by Alya Rachmanova is 111.00 or so in used hardcover, and that's it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at February 10, 2019 10:50 AM (Clxcy)

I found it at an antique store for $3.00.

I'd loan it to you if you like!
Posted by: April at February 10, 2019 10:52 AM (OX9vb)


O_O

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 10:55 AM (bUjCl)

185 Recalibrate! Recalibrate!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 10:52 AM (+y/Ru)

Yeah, the poles are moving.....35mph.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 10:56 AM (cxHbL)

186 > Led by the likes of AOC, the Ds are going all-in on the need to end the world as we know it, because if we don't it will be the end of the world as we know it.

Claims the world is going to end in 12 years, comes up with a 10 year plan to make us miserable for the remaining time.

Nah, honey. If we've only got 12 years, it's gonna be sex, drugs, and rock and roll time.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 10:56 AM (0OWcv)

187 he said he would not resign because right now, Virginia needs a leader with "a moral compass."

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Recalibrate! Recalibrate!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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It is well known to mariners that there exist some serious magnetic anomalies along the south Atlantic coast. The coast is littered with the carcasses of ships steered by arrogant captains.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2019 10:56 AM (HTHlp)

188 Empress Catherine of Russia was apparently quite a hottie in her youth, and she still managed to bend men to her will as she aged.

Its easy when you can have their entire extended family tortured and executed.

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2019 10:56 AM (25Dt7)

189 Way back in the mists of time, when there were only 3 volumes in TAOCP, Bill Gates said he'd hire anyone who had read them.

Professionally, the treatment of pseudorandom number generation and testing was extremely valuable for me.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 10:56 AM (P1+Yz)

190 175 he caught shit from the Admiralty for unauthorized transfer of Fleet Air Arm fighters to another service.

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Winning the war is OK but the important thing is to defeat the rival services.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 10:48 AM (+y/Ru)


Yes. And Cunningham says that we were even worse. He was surprised how intense it was.

Me, I grew up with it. My father and paternal grandfather were navy. Mom's was an army pilot {but didn't like the Air Force}. The arguments were constant, albeit friendly. Most of my parents' friends, the men were navy or marines, and overwhelmingly served in the Pacific, not the ETO. It wasn't until college that it sunk in how atypical that was for the WWII generation.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:57 AM (VaN/j)

191 New York Post cover yesterday:

Bezos Exposes Pecker

Today, about the Feds going after the Enquirer:

Hard Times For Pecker

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 10:57 AM (1UZdv)

192 Led by the likes of AOC, the Ds are going all-in on the need to end the world as we know it, because if we don't it will be the end of the world as we know it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 10:53 AM (1UZdv)

Seems like a song title in there somewheres......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2019 10:57 AM (Z+IKu)

193 I'm reading "Who's Afraid In Virginia, Wolf?".

Posted by: Gov. Rainman Coonman, son at February 10, 2019 10:58 AM (Ndje9)

194 > Yes. And Cunningham says that we were even worse. He was surprised how intense it was.

See the description of early Navy aviation in one of Heinlein's stories.

"We were determined to keep aviation out of the wrong hands. The Army's hands."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 10:58 AM (0OWcv)

195 The D field is too crowded, so a few will get taken out. But by who?

Beto needs to take out Bernie early, to have a chance, but can't be seen to be doing it. So a Social Media war.

Kamala needs to get Booker out of the way, and early.

Klobucher announces today, but she just blew up over the revelation, never reported by Media, especially by MN Media, that she has worse anger issues than Alec Baldwin and has been viciously attacking her staff for years. No VP for you! Cui bono?

Pocohantas has no shame. She made false statements to advance her career. In the legal profession, intentionally misleading authorities is a hanging offense. Expect more examples of her lying soon, and pressure that she drop out. Pocohantas dropped out in 2012. I wonder what Hillary had on her.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 10:59 AM (1UZdv)

196 Nah, honey. If we've only got 12 years, it's gonna be sex, drugs, and rock and roll time.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 10:56 AM


Sodomy, rum, and the lash for sailors?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 10:59 AM (P1+Yz)

197 I'm beginning to doubt that I will finish it. There
are some people's lives which are so disturbing, so dysfunctional, that
one would rather not brush up against them, even vicariously.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2019 10:49 AM (U7Mh9)
That's basically why I stopped reading bios. If the subject was a good, decent, well-adjusted type unfortunately, they are not as interesting to read about. Bios, like fiction, depend on drama and people who are f'ed up create an awful lot of drama. But it ends up being very depressing, particularly if you are an admirer of the subject's work and achievements. It's disheartening to realize what a shit Shelley - a very great poet - was for instance. Or, on a pop culture level, to learn that good old Bing Crosby and Johnny Carson were cold SOBs. I've decided it's better to not know about the lives of prominent people because the chance they were assholes in real life is pretty high. In the case of Nash, of course, he was certifiably nuts, so I guess the remarkable thing was what he managed to achieve in spite of it. There are a lot of crazy, nasty people on earth and most of them contribute squat to human knowledge.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 11:01 AM (d6Ksn)

198 174
It's an excellent book. And Winik does not strike me as a prog at all. He certainly does not downplay the excesses of the French Revolution.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 10:48 AM (d6Ksn)


I think he's definitely a prog. It's impossible to sugarcoat the horrors of the French Revolution, but he tries to put the best face on it he can.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:02 AM (sdi6R)

199 About halfway through "Something Wonderful - Rodgers and Hammerstein's Broadway Revolution" by Todd S. Purdum. Lorenz Hart has just died in an alcoholic fog and "Oklahoma!" has just premiered. Pretty good so far.

Still no central heat here at Castell Skookumchuk and probably none until sometime tomorrow. But the fireplaces are a goin' strong. Just like 1890. Speaking of alcoholic fogs, family folklore says that back in Scotland it was customary to put a wee dram in the morning oatmeal. This would work with Malt-o-Meal and bourbon too, right?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 10, 2019 11:03 AM (k3g2v)

200 I've been working on the Discworld series and have made it up to Book Eight so far. It's "Guards! Guards!", the first of the City Watch series, and I enjoyed it.

I had read a lot about Pratchett and Discworld but had never gotten around to reading the books. Superficially they are parodies of fantasy adventure fiction, but this conceals some very sharp satire. There's a nice bit where the bad guy who summoned the dragon terrorizing the city explains that the citizens will happily hand over a sacrificial victim once per month as long as everything else stays stable - and the dragon is horrified. Its reaction is something along the lines of "I'm supposed to be brutal and evil, but you guys are way ahead of me!"

I also liked the burgeoning romance between Captain Vimes and Lady Sybil. Two people in early middle age who think life has passed them by, and then suddenly realize that maybe it hasn't.

Posted by: Dr Alice at February 10, 2019 11:04 AM (lBBGI)

201 I stubbornly refuse to wear pants. Even for the book thread.

Posted by: GGE of the Kilted Horde, NC Chapter at February 10, 2019 11:04 AM (vbvxt)

202 Beto needs to take out Bernie early, to have a chance, but can't be seen to be doing it. So a Social Media war.

Perhaps this week's articles asking if we've had "peak-Beto" are Sandenista counter strikes. Although the Beto bumper stickers in Austin, the Berkeley of Texas, are still thick.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 11:04 AM (P1+Yz)

203 5 DAYS.

Posted by: THE WALL at February 10, 2019 11:05 AM (MAstk)

204 Adam Schitt on Meet the Press again!
He's going to investigate that Trump is a tool of Russia because of business dealings. The Trump Tower Moscow that never happened is the centerpiece.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:05 AM (1UZdv)

205 A question for moron writers, what are some simple tools for beginning writers to organize themselves.

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2019 11:05 AM (25Dt7)

206 I stubbornly refuse to wear pants. Even for the book thread.

Posted by: GGE of the Kilted Horde, NC Chapter at February 10, 2019 11:04 AM (vbvxt)

There's a pair of shorts for you, up thread.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 11:06 AM (cxHbL)

207 Empress Catherine of Russia was apparently quite a hottie in her youth, and she still managed to bend men to her will as she aged.

-
And she was hot to trot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 11:07 AM (+y/Ru)

208 A question for moron writers, what are some simple tools for beginning writers to organize themselves.

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2019 11:05 AM (25Dt7)

index cards

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 11:08 AM (cxHbL)

209 But historically, they had been in opposition for centuries, if not forever.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 10:52 AM (VaN/j)

Yep. There's a guy on YouTube, a prof whose name escapes me right now, who has a very interesting series of lectures about Shakespeare and politics and one of his major themes is how the history plays are based on the constant fight for control between the monarch and the nobility. Henry V managed to gain the upper hand because of his success in war, but once you got a monarch who was a weakling, the power struggles started up again immediately.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 11:09 AM (d6Ksn)

210 194 > Yes. And Cunningham says that we were even worse. He was surprised how intense it was.

See the description of early Navy aviation in one of Heinlein's stories.

"We were determined to keep aviation out of the wrong hands. The Army's hands."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 10:58 AM (0OWcv)


Absolutely. It gets forgotten that the battle between Mitchell and Moffett was between two equally air-minded officers. And the Brits, who went with a unified air force, were miles behind in carrier ops by WWII, despite having invented CVs in WWI.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 11:09 AM (VaN/j)

211 195 The D field is too crowded, so a few will get taken out. But by who?
Beto needs to take out Bernie early, to have a chance, but can't be seen to be doing it. So a Social Media war.
Kamala needs to get Booker out of the way, and early.
Klobucher announces today, but she just blew up over the revelation, never reported by Media, especially by MN Media, that she has worse anger issues than Alec Baldwin and has been viciously attacking her staff for years. No VP for you! Cui bono?
Pocohantas has no shame. She made false statements to advance her career. In the legal profession, intentionally misleading authorities is a hanging offense. Expect more examples of her lying soon, and pressure that she drop out. Pocohantas dropped out in 2012. I wonder what Hillary had on her.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 10:59 AM (1UZdv)


It's lobsters all the way down.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 11:10 AM (9O8yT)

212 The D field is too crowded, so a few will get taken out. But by who?

Cackle heard from Chappaqua, NY.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 11:10 AM (VaN/j)

213 "And she was hot to trot."

Heh

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:11 AM (1UZdv)

214 House of Assassins is sitting on my table right now but I'm not reading it until Mrs Hades is done with her book so that we can read it together.

Posted by: GGE of the Kilted Horde, NC Chapter at February 10, 2019 11:11 AM (vbvxt)

215 Catherine was attractive and smart as hell. What man could resist that combination? I would be putty in her hands.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:11 AM (sdi6R)

216 207 Empress Catherine of Russia was apparently quite a hottie in her youth, and she still managed to bend men to her will as she aged.
-
And she was hot to trot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 11:07 AM (+y/Ru)


Boy, I'll say!

Posted by: Mr. Ed at February 10, 2019 11:12 AM (9O8yT)

217 Winning the war is OK but the important thing is to defeat the rival services.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 10:48 AM (+y/Ru)

The Imperial Japanese Army and the IJN apparently had a yuuuuuuuuge problem with that.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 11:12 AM (7PLM4)

218 Media doesn't say it, but if Biden announces he'll immediately be the front runner.

Bloomberg shits all over the Green Plan. He's going to be great during the debates, making Trump arguments in a drone voice.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:14 AM (1UZdv)

219 It's an excellent book. And Winik does not strike me as a prog at all. He certainly does not downplay the excesses of the French Revolution.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 10:48 AM (d6Ksn)

I think he's definitely a prog. It's impossible to sugarcoat the horrors of the French Revolution, but he tries to put the best face on it he can.
Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:02 AM (sdi6R)


It's been a while since I read the book, but I didn't get that at all, him going easy on the french. In fact, if he dances around anything, it's just what a fool Jefferson was for being seduced by the french (in more ways than one), and coming back here, becoming damn close to being a traitor, by continuing to operate on france's behalf... behind Washington's back!

So yeah, your evidence of Winik being a lib/progressive... not convincing.

Read "On the Brink."

It's an insider look at all that was right and wrong with the Republican Party during the Reagan years. The tone and direction he goes, he could fit right in here in the comments section.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:15 AM (cY3LT)

220 There's a pair of shorts for you, up thread.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 11:06 AM (cxHbL)



If they are anything like the pants I'll pass.

And the Brits, who went with a unified air force, were miles behind in carrier ops by WWII, despite having invented CVs in WWI.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 11:09 AM (VaN/j)


And yet it was the Brits who had to show us how to land our most iconic Navy WW2 fighter (the F4U Corsair) on carriers. We learned a lot from them.

Posted by: GGE of the Kilted Horde, NC Chapter at February 10, 2019 11:15 AM (vbvxt)

221 Intrigued by the Call of the Wild news, I went digging. Harrison Ford plays John the hero (no surprise), Dan Stevens is Hal (the owner who mistreats the dogs), Karen Gillian (late of Doctor Who -- she was Amy Pond) is Hal's sister Mercedes (yes: there's a girl in the book), and the French actor (lEmmanuel? Sy) who played the role Kevin Hart took in his latest film (which is a remake of a French film).

*deep breath*

I'm intrigued!

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at February 10, 2019 11:16 AM (tlXVi)

222 I've been reading Jay Winik's "The Great Upheaval" about the last
decades of the 18th Century. There was a lot of interplay between
America, France, and Russia."

It's an excellent book. And Winik does not strike me as a prog at all. He certainly does not downplay the excesses of the French Revolution.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 10:48 AM (d6Ksn)


Whether he's a prog or not he doesn't downplay what a duplicitous pile of shit Saint Delano was in his book 1944; both in clumsily trying to play Stalin by pretending to badmouth Churchill or lying to the public about his terrible health.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 10, 2019 11:17 AM (1pz14)

223 Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 10:59 AM (1UZdv)

It's lobsters all the way down.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 11:10 AM (9O8yT)


That description you give above, the lobsters thing, I'm sure it's already been pointed out, it's a substantial part of Peterson's book. Taking up a goodly part of the first chapter, I think.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:17 AM (cY3LT)

224 I haven't finished the book yet, and so far it hasn't said anything about the legend of Catherine and the horse.

I'd assume that was scurrilous propaganda from the media of the day, which was about as accurate as today's media.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:18 AM (sdi6R)

225 Meh. She wasn't so great.

Posted by: Whirlaway at February 10, 2019 11:21 AM (UGqF8)

226 73 Tom Hanks (Appolo 13, Cast Away, Sully, Captain Phillips) is going to be in a movie about someone taking a dangerous trip who may not survive?

Is it just me, or should Tom Hanks consider switching travel agents?

Posted by: WarEagle82 at February 10, 2019 11:21 AM (+Kpte)

227 And yet it was the Brits who had to show us how to land our most iconic Navy WW2 fighter (the F4U Corsair) on carriers. We learned a lot from them.
Posted by: GGE of the Kilted Horde, NC Chapter at February 10, 2019 11:15 AM (vbvxt)


That's true. But it was partly for two reasons:

1. They had to make do with what we gave them, and at first we didn't have enough Hellcats to share. (IMO the Corsair was a better fighter, from what I've read, but there's plenty of dispute. And it was a bitch to operate from CVs. "Bent-winged ensign eater.")

2. Their carriers were more aerodynamically designed than ours, so the winds over the deck were easier to deal with. This came from years of dealing with RAF-based designs for fighters.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 11:22 AM (VaN/j)

228 Nice monastery. I guess those monks had a lot of time on their hands to read.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 11:23 AM (UGqF8)

229 I just started another zombie apocalypse series called Five Roads to Texas. It's on kindle unlimited. I read the first book so far...not bad.
I finished the Sarah Hoyt mystery series about refinishing furniture...meh...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 10, 2019 11:23 AM (kufk0)

230 "Hot to trot."

That's going on my writing index cards with "hubba hubba" and "23 Skidoo."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 11:23 AM (k05pd)

231 I saw the trailer for the Good Omens series. I did not recognize David Tennnant at all. They've got him in long red hair and the transformation is good. Micheal Sheen is almost is almost unrecognizable. It took me a minute but it finally registered. I had to go to IMDB to figure out who was playing the demon.

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 11:23 AM (jm1YL)

232 Addendum to my previous post:

The French actor is *Omar Sy. The remade Kevin Hart version of his starring role is The Upside. His character name isn't listed on IMDb, but assuming he's one of the French postal workers who brings Buck to the territory.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at February 10, 2019 11:24 AM (tlXVi)

233 Think the Brits improvised with landing the Corsairs on a carrier, before they were "fixed" and able to do a conventional landing. The plane would come low/slow up alongside the carrier, opposite direction, and the landing signal officer would give them the sign to do a 180 and cut the throttle. Think I read that in Tillman's Corsair book. Anna Puma could clear this up if she's around.


Not to disparage the Brits and their resourcefulness, especially early, when things were grim and they had little to work with.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2019 11:24 AM (QDnY+)

234 I stubbornly refuse to wear pants. Even for the book thread.
Posted by: GGE of the Kilted Horde, NC Chapter at February 10, 2019 11:04 AM

Luckily kilts are permitted wear

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 11:25 AM (/rm4P)

235 Has anyone read Chernow's biography of George Washington? I've been getting more interested in the non-war time Washington and his time with Mount Vernon. How was the book?

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 11:25 AM (bmdz3)

236 > Catherine was attractive and smart as hell. What man could resist that combination?

Also massively rich, don't forget.

On the other hand, there would be knowing she could have your testicles burned off before skinning you alive, should she get pissed at you.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 11:26 AM (0OWcv)

237 I'd assume that was scurrilous propaganda from the media of the day, which was about as accurate as today's media.
Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:18 AM (sdi6R)


The pamphleteers in France portrayed Marie Antoinette, who seemed to be a genuinely good person who happened to be from Austria, as a more insatiable cock consumer than Stanley Ann Dunham.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 10, 2019 11:26 AM (1pz14)

238 Catherine was attractive and smart as hell. What man could resist that combination? I would be putty in her hands.
Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:11 AM (sdi6R)

---------

Greg, is it supposed to be this soft?

Posted by: Babs the Great at February 10, 2019 11:26 AM (UGqF8)

239 Curious thing about the Bezos affair. Who leaked it to the Enquirer. How did they get pictures?

There were stories quoting Bezos security director that it was the brother of Bezos' GF, claiming that he was a Trumpster. But there's been no follow-up.

When I put on my tinfoil hat I see a blackmail attempt by the brother in cahoots with sister, the Edmund Hillary of social climbing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:26 AM (1UZdv)

240 I am not putting on my stained glass pants just to conform to your egregious rules. I would rather engage in chironomy than compromise my principles.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 11:27 AM (3sjI6)

241 Superheros have always been around. Privileged with powers beyond ordinary xen, conferred by the gods and goddesses of xenkind for purposes of celestial amusement.

Posted by: freaked at February 10, 2019 11:27 AM (UdKB7)

242 Re: Flight From Terror by Alya Rachmanova

I found it at an antique store for $3.00.

I'd loan it to you if you like!


That's nice, but I'm kind of short of physical space at the moment, I have too much junk I need to get rid of.

I find myself wondering, though, with old books like that, who owns the copyright?

I'm currently on and off rereading, in digital format on kindle, another book by a Russian refugee of the Russian revolution, Peter Goullart's _Forgotten Kingdom_, which isn't about Russia, but about Lijiang in Yunnan, where he worked for the Chinese government until the coming of the communists (again!).

I'm unsure of who owns the copyright, and it's presense on kindle has been on again and off again, so that I had to buy a physical copy when I wanted to give it to a friend. I suspect at least some of the people who have printed it in the last twenty years, especially in China, have just been printing it without actually getting the copyright.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at February 10, 2019 11:27 AM (Clxcy)

243 Tom Hanks (Appolo 13, Cast Away, Sully, Captain Phillips) is going to be in a movie about someone taking a dangerous trip who may not survive?
-------------------------------------
Is it just me, or should Tom Hanks consider switching travel agents?
Posted by: WarEagle82 at February 10, 2019 11:21 AM (+Kpte)


One of the greatest tricks Hollowwood has perpetrated on humanity is this idea that actors are special.

It really is amazing.

Guys like Hanks (and Deniro, and Pacino, and Decrappio... (side note, if you are a young up-and-comer in acting, consider adding an "o" to the end of your name), they land the right role early enough, and for the rest of their careers they can coast on their schtick, their style, and everyone claps at them, saying how amazing an actor they are.

What's amazing is the gullibility of the movie buying public.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:28 AM (cY3LT)

244 It's funny that America came up with a carrier fighter that couldn't actually be landed on a carrier, but eventually turned out to be our best carrier fighter.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:28 AM (sdi6R)

245 I was terrible in chironomy. I never could figure out the hippopotanuse.

Posted by: Little Lupe at February 10, 2019 11:28 AM (Tyii7)

246 234 I stubbornly refuse to wear pants. Even for the book thread.
Posted by: GGE of the Kilted Horde, NC Chapter at February 10, 2019 11:04 AM

Luckily kilts are permitted wear
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 11:25 AM (/rm4P)


I'll allow it.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 11:29 AM (9O8yT)

247 Have not (yet) read any of his books, though plan to do so, but knew Winik a bit back in the day. It was 10,000 years ago, in terms of American political decay, so the terms of reference were very different, but he was not what today we call a "prog" on policy issues. He was the foreign policy guy for then-senator Chuck Robb of VA (D). Back when half or more of the Dem caucus in the Senate was far, far, far to the "right" of half of today's GOP caucus. And VA didn't elect state-wide progs of any variety.



Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2019 11:30 AM (QDnY+)

248 The only true announcement that matters (if he runs) is Schultz.


That's likely game over. It won't matter who the Dem nominee is.

Posted by: HA at February 10, 2019 11:30 AM (MAstk)

249 What's amazing is the gullibility of the movie buying public.
...

It's amazing.

Especially their ability to get conservatives to give them millions. Which they in turn donate to leftwing orgs and Dems.

They are master manipulators.

Posted by: HA at February 10, 2019 11:31 AM (MAstk)

250 Sorry for the OT, but "Face the Nation" just aired an interview with Gov. Northam. Among other things, he said he would not resign because right now, Virginia needs a leader with "a moral compass." Surprisingly, he did not instantly burst into flames.

Also Gayle King, who did the interview, talked about how this is clearly a source of anguish to him, or something like that. The Dems are officially walking this back.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 10, 2019 10:33 AM (2PXwn)

Some moral compasses point straight to Hell.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 11:31 AM (nPGq2)

251 I finished Flann O'Brian's At Swim Two Birds earlier this week. What a wonderful book and a good example, along with The Great Upheaval, of the outstanding recommendations I've gotten on these book threads. The wisdom of the Horde!

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 10, 2019 11:32 AM (1pz14)

252 ''Not to disparage the Brits and their resourcefulness, especially early, when things were grim and they had little to work with.''

I've recommended this excellent book before:

''Churchill's Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. The Mavericks Who Plotted Hitler's Defeat'' by Giles Milton. Fascinating story of a smal circle of men ran the Churchill's secret war. It reads like a novel in places. I was biting my fingernails in more than one place.

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 11:32 AM (jm1YL)

253 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at February 10, 2019 11:27 AM (Clxcy)

I wonder if it's something the Gutenberg Project would make available if I gave the book to them? I don't really know how that works.

Posted by: April at February 10, 2019 11:33 AM (OX9vb)

254 I don't think Schultz will run if Biden does. They're both still hedging

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:33 AM (1UZdv)

255 My brother who works for the Army Corp of Engineers tells me that a good candidate for where Jimmy Hoffa might be is the Rouge River in Detroit. The Corp is responsible for the waterway and performed side scan sonar of the river and found 11 vehicles. Eventually those vehicles will be hauled off the bottom.

Posted by: Yawrate at February 10, 2019 11:33 AM (U2SYP)

256
Isn't French socialism great? Woman gets cell phone smashed, then kicked away, then police face plant her, and tie her up:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1094622403123134464

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 11:33 AM (jYje5)

257 I had a discussion this morning with a liberal about AOC. AOC knows she will not last in Congress after redistricting. She plans to run for Mayor of New York City. Everything she is doing is designed to create a record that will get her the Mayor's race.

You heard it here first.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 11:34 AM (k05pd)

258 247 Have not (yet) read any of his books, though plan to do so, but knew Winik a bit back in the day. It was 10,000 years ago, in terms of American political decay, so the terms of reference were very different, but he was not what today we call a "prog" on policy issues. He was the foreign policy guy for then-senator Chuck Robb of VA (D). Back when half or more of the Dem caucus in the Senate was far, far, far to the "right" of half of today's GOP caucus. And VA didn't elect state-wide progs of any variety.



Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2019 11:30 AM (QDnY+)


That's good to hear, rhomboid.

I never claimed to be a good judge of people. I'm much better dealing with cats.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:34 AM (sdi6R)

259 59 Allright, I'm admitting something. I watched the Super Bowl. One of the musical highlights (Gladys Knight was tremendous, and Don Lemon can go suck on a lemon, the loser) was the rendition of "America The Beautiful" given by the two teenage sisters from Atlanta, Chloe and Halle.


https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxelgpsp
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comic relief at February 10, 2019 09:30 AM (Z216Q),

The NFL killed that link. The two girls are so pretty, though. I will see if I can find it elsewhere.

Posted by: Gem at February 10, 2019 11:34 AM (XoAz8)

260 It seems that, decades ago, wearing blackface was a thing for college guys in the South.

Did Psycho Joe?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:35 AM (1UZdv)

261 It's amazing.

Especially their ability to get conservatives to give them millions. Which they in turn donate to leftwing orgs and Dems.

They are master manipulators.

Posted by: HA at February 10, 2019 11:31 AM (MAstk)


This may shock some of you but I've out and out ridiculed commenters elsewhere for doting on that disgusting spectacle called the academy awards show.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 10, 2019 11:35 AM (1pz14)

262 Finishing the three book Raven series by Kevin Miller. Easily the best techno-read since early Clancy. Great series.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 10, 2019 11:36 AM (0tfLf)

263 The only true announcement that matters (if he runs) is Schultz.


That's likely game over. It won't matter who the Dem nominee is.

Posted by: HA at February 10, 2019 11:30 AM (MAstk)

Heard Klobuchar is going to announce today. How cold is it in Minn. today?

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 11:36 AM (cxHbL)

264 I was a college guy in the South in the early 80s and never saw any blackface. Saw a lot of rednecks though.

Posted by: freaked at February 10, 2019 11:36 AM (UdKB7)

265 A booklist over at the bbc. I was struck, in the summaries, by this description of Rachel Maddow:

the mesmerising approach of Rachel Maddow, the "current sweetheart of liberal cable TV"

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20190130-ten- books-to-read-this-february

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 11:37 AM (gbepJ)

266 ''Has anyone read Chernow's biography of George Washington? I've been getting more interested in the non-war time Washington and his time with Mount Vernon. How was the book?''

I haven't read that one but years ago I read James Flexner's "Washington:The Indispensable Man" which I understand is or was the best biography of the great man. It was very good. I've been thinking os revisiting it.

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 11:38 AM (jm1YL)

267 As for anyone interested in Catherine the Great, the best book out there, most likely, is Robert Massie's biography of her.

He does address the horse story, and it's been years since I read it, but I'm pretty sure he essentially dismisses the whole thing. It's bull, and a good comparison would be someone like Trump. All his (and her) faults are out in the open, but it doesn't stop the rumor mongers from going for the most egregious nonsense they can, to try to shock the world.

But how do you shock the world on these guys? Catherine was KNOWN to have serial lovers, and she would trade one in for another, as soon as the old one got too old... which I assumed happened when these guys were otherwise still quite young. She liked 'em young.

So the horse thing has no basis in fact. Somehow somewhere, someone overheard her say something about a fondness for horses. Just like with Trump, someone heard him say 'grab her pu$$y." And history will record, Donald Trump spent his days, seeking out women, cupping his hand, and snatching their crotches!

Because of course he did.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:38 AM (cY3LT)

268 > I wonder if it's something the Gutenberg Project would make available if I gave the book to them? I don't really know how that works.

Looks like it was published in 1933, so it would still potentially still be in copyright. However the copyright does not appear to have been renewed.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 11:39 AM (0OWcv)

269 Tuna, read that book (Churchill's blah blah blah). Good, and entertaining. Really, parts of it are absolutely worthy of good movie-making. The real life characters, their color and quirk, are quintessentially British, brilliant, and interesting. And to think, they got to indulge their imaginations and talents in a no-holds-barred global war of good and evil.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 10, 2019 11:39 AM (QDnY+)

270 208 "A question for moron writers, what are some simple tools for beginning writers to organize themselves."

An excel spread sheet, for plotting. Keeps track of where everyone in the plot is and what they are doing. Very good for doing historicals, and working the plot in and through historical events. Set a column along the left side for hours, days, months, whatever - and then a column for events, and then a column for each character.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 10, 2019 11:40 AM (xnmPy)

271 257 I had a discussion this morning with a liberal about AOC. AOC knows she will not last in Congress after redistricting. She plans to run for Mayor of New York City. Everything she is doing is designed to create a record that will get her the Mayor's race.

You heard it here first.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 11:34 AM (k05pd)


*opens mouth*
*tries to think of something to say*
*closes mouth again*

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:40 AM (sdi6R)

272 the mesmerising approach of Rachel Maddow, the "current sweetheart of liberal cable TV"

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20190130-ten- books-to-read-this-february
Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 11:37 AM (gbepJ)


For whatever stupid reason, libs love Ralph.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 10, 2019 11:40 AM (1pz14)

273 I'm inclined to think the Brit Fleet Air Arm pilots must've been pretty good at the start of the war, given that they were't wiped out in the crap fighters they had:

Gladiator - OK for a biplane, but outdated. (And a landplane design, at that.)

Skua - Actually a dive-bomber, but called a "fighter" because something had to do that job. (Actually "fighter" to the RN meant something a bit different, but still.)

Fulmar - Based on a land based bomber. No faster than the Gladiator.

Hurricane - Aging land based fighter.

Until the lend-lease Wildcat, that was it. There's a reason the Swordfish was the relative success. And it could operate in just about any weather. (OK, there was the Albacore, supposed to replace the Swordfish, but didn't.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 11:40 AM (VaN/j)

274 I read Good Omens a long time ago and don't remember much of the plot, but I liked it.

Catch-22 will be unbearable.

Posted by: Gem at February 10, 2019 11:41 AM (XoAz8)

275 "You heard it here first."

I said it here weeks ago.

NYC used to have a two term limit for the mayor. Bloomberg got it extended to three. Ironically, De Blasio was a harsh critic at the time. But the office will open in a few years.

AOC checks the right boxes for a NYC mayoral run. Many will support her to keep the looting going.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:42 AM (1UZdv)

276 Although the Beto bumper stickers in Austin, the Berkeley of Texas, are still thick.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 11:04 AM (P1+Yz)

As are the people who stick them on their cars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 11:42 AM (nPGq2)

277 257 I had a discussion this morning with a liberal about AOC. AOC knows she will not last in Congress after redistricting. She plans to run for Mayor of New York City. Everything she is doing is designed to create a record that will get her the Mayor's race.

You heard it here first.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 11:34 AM (k05pd)


They deserve her. A debate between her and DeBlasio would be kind of fun.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 11:42 AM (VaN/j)

278 I haven't read Winik's new book, but I do have his "April 1865," about the closing days of the Civil War, and unlike most modern historians, he tries to treat Lee and Davis and the other Confederates fairly--i.e., he suggests the CSA was sincerely planning to end slavery if it meant winning independence; so not exactly the "all Southerners are Nazis!" narrative.

As for Chernow, his biographies on Washington and Hamilton have really good scholarship and writing but I think you can definitely see a political bias at work, in that he wants to make both out to be progressive Big Government types. (Which is somewhat true of Hamilton, much less so of Washington, in my opinion.)

Posted by: Dr. T at February 10, 2019 11:43 AM (2PXwn)

279 What's amazing is the gullibility of the movie buying public.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:28 AM (cY3LT)

We're not gullible...OK, maybe. If you say so. Was it on the internet?--Movie going public.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 11:43 AM (3sjI6)

280 The Call of the Wild
Based on the book The Call of the Wild by Jack London
At the dawn of the Klondike Gold Rush, when capable sled dogs are in high demand, half St. Bernard Buck is wrenched away from his home and forced to survive in the harsh conditions of the Yukon. The movie stars Harrison Ford and Dan Stevens.


Which character is 76 year old Harrison Ford going to play?
My guess is either he is in for two minutes as Judge Miller, Buck's original owner.
Or, as Judge Miller he leads a group of commandos into the Arctic on a quest to return Buck.

Please don't let him be John Thornton.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 11:43 AM (zCabI)

281 I had a discussion this morning with a liberal about AOC. AOC knows she will not last in Congress after redistricting. She plans to run for Mayor of New York City. Everything she is doing is designed to create a record that will get her the Mayor's race.

You heard it here first.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 11:34 AM


Hey, she knows how to close a bar up at the end of the night and put the cash receipts in the safe. How much harder could the job of chief administrator for a city of eight million be?

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 11:43 AM (jYje5)

282 236
On the other hand, there would be knowing she could have your testicles burned off before skinning you alive, should she get pissed at you.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 11:26 AM (0OWcv)


One could say that about any ordinary modern American woman, should one choose to say that.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:45 AM (sdi6R)

283
Isn't French socialism great? Woman gets cell phone smashed, then kicked away, then police face plant her, and tie her up:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1094622403123134464

Posted by: Newest Nic


Fifty Shades of Frog

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 10, 2019 11:46 AM (aKsyK)

284 265 the mesmerising approach of Rachel Maddow, the "current sweetheart of liberal cable TV"

This must make her livid. So sexist!!

Posted by: April at February 10, 2019 11:47 AM (OX9vb)

285 Its easy when you can have their entire extended family tortured and executed.

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2019 10:56 AM (25Dt7)


my lefty brother's marriage had a similar impact on his family.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comic relief at February 10, 2019 11:47 AM (Z216Q)

286 I haven't read Winik's new book, but I do have his "April 1865," about the closing days of the Civil War, and unlike most modern historians, he tries to treat Lee and Davis and the other Confederates fairly--i.e., he suggests the CSA was sincerely planning to end slavery if it meant winning independence; so not exactly the "all Southerners are Nazis!" narrative.

As for Chernow, his biographies on Washington and Hamilton have really good scholarship and writing but I think you can definitely see a political bias at work, in that he wants to make both out to be progressive Big Government types. (Which is somewhat true of Hamilton, much less so of Washington, in my opinion.)
Posted by: Dr. T at February 10, 2019 11:43 AM (2PXwn)


Just thought I'd note, with a chuckle, your use of the phrase "Winik's new book." He hasn't published anything since the the FDR book, which came out in 2015. So in the world of scholarly history, I guess that constitutes new!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:48 AM (cY3LT)

287 AOC checks the right boxes for a NYC mayoral run. Many will support her to keep the looting going.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:42 AM (1UZdv)

Yup......plus if she loses out she can always go into pron or snuff films.

"Deep Throat II: Congressional Boogaloo".....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2019 11:48 AM (Z+IKu)

288 i.e., he suggests the CSA was sincerely planning to end slavery if it meant winning independence; so not exactly the "all Southerners are Nazis!" narrative.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 10, 2019 11:43 AM (2PXwn)

Any historian that promotes the line that the North promoted freeing blacks as some kind of moral imperative is a historian that is engaged in altering the past to control the future. Now, it was important to the South, but primarily from an economic perspective. "Wait. You want to free my slaves that are worth X number of dollars and give me no compensation? Uh, I'll go with no."

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 11:49 AM (3sjI6)

289 Great video of the brutal French arrest.

I'd have thought the French Yellow Vest thing would die down, but it seems to be escalating. Ignored by our Media.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:49 AM (1UZdv)

290 Just thought I'd note, with a chuckle, your use of the phrase "Winik's new book." He hasn't published anything since the the FDR book, which came out in 2015. So in the world of scholarly history, I guess that constitutes new!
Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:48 AM (cY3LT)

Hey! It's more a case of "academics being so concentrated on their own field, it's only by luck they notice anything outside it." Cut me some slack!

Posted by: Dr. T at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (2PXwn)

291 Yup......plus if she loses out she can always go into pron or snuff films.

"Deep Throat II: Congressional Boogaloo".....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2019 11:48 AM (Z+IKu)

With those teeth, I don't think there's too many men that would insert their member into her mouth. Especially if she's in a "Smash the Patriarchy" mood.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (3sjI6)

292 205 A question for moron writers, what are some simple tools for beginning writers to organize themselves.
Posted by: Jean


In all my writing classes -- both for film & academics -- I require the students to outline the project before they begin. You can format said outline any way you like (I prefer a simple "1. First thing/2. Second thing/etc."). The point is, to think through what you've got of your story thus far, even if it means that some sections of the outline read: '"57. Something happens here..."

Then, just start writing. When you get stuck -- and you always get stuck -- refer to your outline. It can remind you of where you are in your story.

That does NOT mean you must be faithful to your outline. I have never had a finished project read the same as my first outline! It's merely a jumping-off point; a way to put your thoughts in order.

And it also saves you from the greatest delay tactic of all writers: Editing and rewriting as you go along. Save that shit for the second draft!

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (tlXVi)

293 He does address the horse story, and it's been years since I read it, but I'm pretty sure he essentially dismisses the whole thing. It's bull, and a good comparison would be someone like Trump. All his (and her) faults are out in the open, but it doesn't stop the rumor mongers


====


Don't know who would seriously consider that to be true. This is similar to rumors about Marie Antoinette and her friends around the time of Revolution. Rabble fodder.

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (bUjCl)

294 I also liked Massie's Catherine the Great biography a lot. My recollection about the horse story is the same as yours: fake news created by political enemies.

It's really annoying because the story reduces one of the most intellectual and influential women in European history to a punch line.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (S+f+m)

295 Tuna and Dr. T, Thanks. I'll put the Flexner books on the list. May be heading to the used book store later.

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (bmdz3)

296 You heard it here first.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 11:34 AM (k05pd)

NYC already has a loony "hispanic" Commie mayor. Late to the party, babe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (nPGq2)

297 It won't matter who the Dem nominee is.

-
Kirsten Jellybrain began eating fried chicken with a fork, looked around and saw that others were eating it like Americans and put down the fork.

https://bit.ly/2Ssd4lN

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)

298 What's amazing is the gullibility of the movie buying public.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:28 AM (cY3LT)

We're not gullible...OK, maybe. If you say so. Was it on the internet?--Movie going public.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 11:43 AM (3sjI6)


Speaking of the internet, I find myself mesmerized by the Youtube star, Pewdiepie.

I never heard of the guy before a few weeks ago. He's got the largest following on Youtube. Got in trouble not too long ago for using the n-word in a live stream, gets labeled a nazi by the left because he's swedish... and jokes about stupid NPC idiots and their stupid idiotic idiocy.

Started out as an online gamer, and has branched into much much more. I thought it was wonderful, a video he did on the books he's been reading. Mind you, he has a VERY young audience, for the most part, and here he was, telling them the value of immersing themselves in books.

Made some very decent recommendations too. One thing he said that struck me as interesting, he noted a lot of young readers seem to go for non-fiction, and he recommended they put some more time and effort into fiction, because of the ability of fiction writers to weave their perspectives in without hammering the reader over the head with it.

I don't agree with that, but I thought it was an interesting perspective.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:53 AM (cY3LT)

299 Checking the UK Daily Mail.. looks like the Danes are fed up with immigrants. Shuffled them all off to their own island. lmao!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 10, 2019 09:18 AM (dUJdY)



Since Denmark is pillar of socialist perfection to follow we should ship all of our migrants aka illegals off to an island.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2019 11:53 AM (SiINZ)

300 I just got suspended from Twitter for posting
#LearnToCode. It wasn't even at a journalist but a pseudo-coded loop in
reply to Jack Posobiec posting "Governor Coonman" 16 times in a row.
Twitter REALLY doesn't like that hashtag!
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 10, 2019 10:40 AM (Xqo6t)


#LearnToWriteFederalGovernmentGrantProposalsForTwitter

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2019 11:55 AM (mUa7G)

301
I'd have thought the French Yellow Vest thing would die down, but it seems to be escalating. Ignored by our Media.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:49 AM


The cops are getting increasingly brutal, which is only going to prolong the unrest. My wife asked my son and daughter-in-law -- who consider themselves well-informed -- if they knew anything of these three freaking months of protests. They knew nothing.

Yet they probably know of the one woman who had a heart attack at Charlottesville who the police claim some redneck ran down. Know how many have died of being run down in France so far? Ten.

* crickets *

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 11:55 AM (jYje5)

302 (I prefer a simple "1. First thing/2. Second thing/etc.")

-
Tolstoy's Anna Karenina outline:

1. Blah blah blah
2. She throws herself in front of a train.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 11:56 AM (+y/Ru)

303 Just thought I'd note, with a chuckle, your use of the phrase "Winik's new book." He hasn't published anything since the the FDR book, which came out in 2015. So in the world of scholarly history, I guess that constitutes new!
Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:48 AM (cY3LT)

Hey! It's more a case of "academics being so concentrated on their own field, it's only by luck they notice anything outside it." Cut me some slack!
Posted by: Dr. T at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (2PXwn)


Yes yes! Exactly. The world can and does, when we will allow it, move slow. In some ways. Which can be a good thing or a bad thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 11:56 AM (cY3LT)

304 Since Denmark is pillar of socialist perfection to follow we should ship all of our migrants aka illegals off to an island.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2019 11:53 AM (SiINZ)

I choose Puerto Rico......they would love it and the mofongo.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2019 11:57 AM (Z+IKu)

305 Don't underestimate the French when they are riled up about perceived injustices.

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 11:57 AM (bUjCl)

306 Please don't let [Harrison Ford] be John Thornton.

Posted by: Chuck C


Sorry. As I noted upthread: that's what the film credits say.

(sadz over the realization that no one reads my posts)

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at February 10, 2019 11:58 AM (tlXVi)

307 I just got suspended from Twitter for posting
#LearnToCode. It wasn't even at a journalist but a pseudo-coded loop in
reply to Jack Posobiec posting "Governor Coonman" 16 times in a row.
Twitter REALLY doesn't like that hashtag!
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 10, 2019 10:40 AM (Xqo6t)

#LearnToWriteFederalGovernmentGrantProposalsForTwitter

-
#LearnToFirstAmendment

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)

308 Another neighbor was always playing Underdog. Maybe
it instills something good, idk. But imo it somewhat negates the hard
work/discipline that is the real path to achievement. But maybe just the
notion of conquering villains is good.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2019 10:46 AM (Cus5s)


Playing cowboys and indians or playing frontiersman are fun for little kids. As we grown up we are supposed to learn that there is a lot of hard work and drudgery there as well.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2019 11:58 AM (mUa7G)

309 294 I also liked Massie's Catherine the Great biography a lot. My recollection about the horse story is the same as yours: fake news created by political enemies.

It's really annoying because the story reduces one of the most intellectual and influential women in European history to a punch line.
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 10, 2019 11:51 AM (S+f+m)


Yes. In Winik's book, Catherine sounds like a fascinating woman.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 11:58 AM (sdi6R)

310 I just got suspended from Twitter for posting
#LearnToCode. It wasn't even at a journalist but a pseudo-coded loop in
reply to Jack Posobiec posting "Governor Coonman" 16 times in a row.
Twitter REALLY doesn't like that hashtag!
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 10, 2019 10:40 AM (Xqo6t)

#LearnToWriteFederalGovernmentGrantProposalsForTwitter

-
#LearnToFirstAmendment
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)


#Edocotnrael

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 11:59 AM (bUjCl)

311
Tolstoy's Anna Karenina outline:

1. Blah blah blah
2. She throws herself in front of a train.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


Where do you think I got the idea in the first place?

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at February 10, 2019 12:00 PM (tlXVi)

312 Since Denmark is pillar of socialist perfection to follow we should ship all of our migrants aka illegals off to an island.

-
Moloki has a history.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 12:00 PM (+y/Ru)

313 Posted by: Dr. T at February 10, 2019 11:43 AM (2PXwn)

Any historian that promotes the line that the North promoted freeing blacks as some kind of moral imperative is a historian that is engaged in altering the past to control the future. Now, it was important to the South, but primarily from an economic perspective. "Wait. You want to free my slaves that are worth X number of dollars and give me no compensation? Uh, I'll go with no."
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 11:49 AM (3sjI6)


Yes, history has a hard time with complexity. Fellas like Charles Sumner, in temperament and ego and behavior would fit right in with today's left.

So convinced of their rightness, and so quick to note just how superior he was to you and you and you and certainly me.

The term, virtue signaling, would have summed up Chuck pretty well.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:01 PM (cY3LT)

314 Somebody should make a movie trailer with a block of carbonite being dragged behind a dogsled.

Posted by: freaked at February 10, 2019 12:01 PM (UdKB7)

315
Moloki has a history.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 12:00 PM


Your comment leaves me stumped.

Posted by: Father Damien at February 10, 2019 12:02 PM (jYje5)

316 seems that, decades ago, wearing blackface was a thing for college guys in the South

-

It wasn't, though. Not for normal people. Rich democrats from wealthy families?

Yeah, it looks more and more like they kept their traditions alive.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Vietnam Ford Ranger at February 10, 2019 12:02 PM (xyung)

317 George Washington University has "learn to code" program. They call it a boot camp. Their ads all say "Learn to Code." I wonder if twitter is tanking those ads?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 12:02 PM (k05pd)

318 Tolstoy's Anna Karenina outline:

1. Blah blah blah
2. She throws herself in front of a train.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 11:56 AM (+y/Ru)


Dammit!!

How about a spoiler alert!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:02 PM (cY3LT)

319 I just read the Good Shepherd about four months ago, its a really tense, tight story that's almost nonstop action. However, a lot of the tension comes from the maneuvering of ships, fuel expenditures, and the captain's internal conflict over making risky decisions. I'm not sure how well a lot of that will translate to the big screen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2019 12:03 PM (39g3+)

320 The French are tougher than we credit, and irascible by nature. They like to revolt.

So this can escalate to real riots. Cue up The Clash:

White riot! White riot!
I wanna riot of my own!

Meanwhile Macron has called the French ambassador home in protest over some Italian politicians egging the Yellow Vests on. Sacre bleu!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 12:03 PM (1UZdv)

321 Madame Bovary outline:

Oh, spoiler...


1. Blah blah blah
2. She drinks rat poison.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

322 1. Blah blah blah
2. She throws herself in front of a train.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 10, 2019 11:56 AM (+y/Ru)

We're going to need 100 pages about honest sweat and the simply, rugged beauty of living as a serf.

Posted by: Russian Publisher at February 10, 2019 12:04 PM (7PLM4)

323 305
Don't underestimate the French when they are riled up about perceived injustices.

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 11:57 AM (bUjCl)

Yep. French cops can be pretty brutal from what I understand - no Miranda rights there - but I think it will backfire badly on them. The frogs are effete as hell, but I think that's balanced out by the burning desire to run out in the street, put up the barricades and riot when they think the authorities (non-German authorities, that is) are shitting on them It's part of the national mythology.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 12:04 PM (d6Ksn)

324 Frank Sheeran used to get my under-age dad into bars back when he was a mob enforcer in Philly.
True story.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 10, 2019 12:04 PM (9QCzd)

325 Learn to "doctor" PDF documents

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 10, 2019 12:04 PM (aKsyK)

326 War and Peace outline:

1. Blah blah blah
2. The Russians win!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:05 PM (cY3LT)

327 Russians win?

SUBPOENAS!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 12:06 PM (k05pd)

328 #Edocotnrael

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 11:59 AM (bUjCl)

#Learntocode >> rot13 >> #Yrneagbpbqr

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:06 PM (nPGq2)

329 Moby Dick:

1. Blah blah blah
2. GIANT SPERM WHALE BOAT SINKS

Posted by: Russian Publisher at February 10, 2019 12:06 PM (7PLM4)

330 Madame Bovary outline:

Oh, spoiler...


1. Blah blah blah
2. She drinks rat poison.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

Do "Old Yeller"

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 12:06 PM (cxHbL)

331 Since Denmark is pillar of socialist perfection to follow we should ship all of our migrants aka illegals off to an island.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2019 11:53 AM (SiINZ)

I choose Puerto Rico......they would love it and the mofongo.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2019 11:57 AM (Z+IKu)

Only if we revoke their US territory status and quarantine the island.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 12:07 PM (3sjI6)

332 Giant sperm?

SUBPOENAS!

Posted by: Don Lemon at February 10, 2019 12:07 PM (k05pd)

333
'Jaws' outline:

1. blah, blah, blah
2. You're gonna need a bigger boat

Posted by: Father Damien at February 10, 2019 12:07 PM (jYje5)

334 Finnegan's Wake:

1.Blah blah blah
2. Blah blah blah

Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:07 PM (7PLM4)

335 Great Gatsby outline:

1. Blah blah blah
2. The boat stays out on the water.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:08 PM (cY3LT)

336 @Donna, true.

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 12:08 PM (bUjCl)

337 If you can enarge the floor only area, a optical illusion your looking at steps.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 12:08 PM (/rm4P)

338 I think Alcatraz is available, as well.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 10, 2019 12:08 PM (MIKMs)

339 "The frogs are effete as hell,"

The Yellow Vests are rural French Deplorables. I thought the protests would burn out because they have to schlepp to Paris every weekend. But they seem to be getting a taste for it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 12:09 PM (1UZdv)

340 Madame Bovary outline:

Oh, spoiler...


1. Blah blah blah
2. She drinks rat poison.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

Do "Old Yeller"
Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 12:06 PM (cxHbL)


Weird. Where did this water on my cheeks come from... it can't be raining in here, can it?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:09 PM (cY3LT)

341 Slaughterhouse Five:

1. Blah blah blah
2. Space alien zoo sex

Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:11 PM (7PLM4)

342 I think Alcatraz is available, as well.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 10, 2019 12:08 PM (MIKMs)

Not big enough. There are some nice big uninhabited islands in the Aleutian chain.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:11 PM (nPGq2)

343
#Learntocode >> rot13 >> #Yrneagbpbqr
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:06 PM (nPGq2)


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Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 12:11 PM (bUjCl)

344 I was amazed by the library today because it is so unusual to see so much light in a library. They are usually dim and dark (no doubt to preserve the books themselves), but this one just yells about the light of learning.

Sublimely beautiful.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 10, 2019 12:11 PM (MIKMs)

345 Do "Old Yeller"
Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 12:06 PM (cxHbL)


Men actually admit to crying.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 12:11 PM (VaN/j)

346 Looking at the picture of the Stift Admont Monastery Library, it reminded me of how much more complex and rococo Austrians and Bavarians were than Northern Germans, especially Prussian areas. Maybe it was the beautiful, Alpine vistas in those two areas, as opposed to the austere, gloomy North, that fostered a love of the decorative arts.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 12:11 PM (3sjI6)

347 Huck Finn:

1. Blah blah blah
2. Injun Joe did it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:12 PM (cY3LT)

348 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2019 12:13 PM (u82oZ)

349 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2019 12:13 PM (u82oZ)


--. --- --- -.. / -- --- .-. -. .. -. --. -.-.--

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 12:14 PM (bUjCl)

350 Every novel outline ever written:

1. Blah blah blah
2. The End.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 12:15 PM (3sjI6)

351 Please don't let [Harrison Ford] be John Thornton.

Posted by: Chuck C

Sorry. As I noted upthread: that's what the film credits say.

(sadz over the realization that no one reads my posts)
Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at February 10, 2019 11:58 AM


To be honest, I didn't read any posts.
.
So old Harrison Ford is going to survive almost drowning in icy rapids.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 12:15 PM (zCabI)

352 317 George Washington University has "learn to code" program. They call it a boot camp. Their ads all say "Learn to Code." I wonder if twitter is tanking those ads?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2019 12:02 PM (k05pd)

ha!

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 12:16 PM (gbepJ)

353 Learn to "doctor" PDF documents
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 10, 2019 12:04 PM


Yawn.

Posted by: TFG's staff at February 10, 2019 12:16 PM (DMUuz)

354 Great Expectations Outline:

1. Blah, blah, blah
2. Guillotined!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 12:16 PM (wem1b)

355 Got a lot of chores done , as I've been up for a while.

The first time I read Arthur C. Clarke first published short story, Rescue Party, I will admit I had tears of pride. A well done story.

Over the years, Clarke got less and less enchanted with praise for Rescue Party as he wrote more and more stories.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2019 12:17 PM (u82oZ)

356 One could get kinda vicious about doing Titanic, the movie.

1. "Oh, Leo, my love, I'll never let you go!"

2. She lets go.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at February 10, 2019 12:17 PM (Clxcy)

357 One could get kinda vicious about doing Titanic, the movie.



1. "Oh, Leo, my love, I'll never let you go!"



2. She lets go.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at February 10, 2019 12:17 PM (Clxcy)

I describe it as she cheats on her fiance, the ship sinks, her heart goes on.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:18 PM (9/vGE)

358 #Learntocode >> #acdeeLnoort

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 12:19 PM (gbepJ)

359 King Lear

spoiler alert.

1. blah. blah. blah.
2. just about everyone dies. In one scene.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 12:19 PM (zCabI)

360 Yay, book thread!!!

Eh, I got nuthin''.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2019 12:19 PM (kQs4Y)

361 runner

-....- -....- .-.-.- / -....- -....- -....- / -....- -....- -....- / -....- .-.-.- .-.-.- / -..-. / -....- -....- / -....- -....- -....- / .-.-.- -....- .-.-.- / -....- .-.-.- / .-.-.- .-.-.- / -....- .-.-.- / -....- -....- .-.-.- / -....- .-.-.- -....- .-.-.- -....- -....- / - --- / -.-- --- ..- / .- ... / .-- . .-.. .-.. --..-- .-. ..- -. -. . .-. .-.-.- / .--- ..- ... - / ..-. --- .-. / -.-- --- ..- --..-- / --- ..- .-. / -. . .-- / -... .- - - .-.. . -.-. .-. -.-- / .- --. .- .. -. ... - / - .... . / .-.. . ..-. - / -.--. ..-. .-. --- -- / .-- .... .. -.-. .... / ... ..-. / -. --- ...- . .-.. ..--.. -.--.- .-.-.- / -.. . .- - .... / - --- / ...- . .-. -- .. -. -.-.--

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2019 12:20 PM (u82oZ)

362 It's been a long time since I read it, but I'll give a shot at A Tale of Two Cities:


1. Knitting.


2. Blah blah blah.


3. Still knitting.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:20 PM (9/vGE)

363 354 Great Expectations Outline:

1. Blah, blah, blah
2. Guillotined!
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 12:16 PM (wem1b)


????

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 12:20 PM (VaN/j)

364 It reminds me of that line from that dumb schwarzenegger movie ... "I had to let him go."

BTW, are we even allowed to say "Schwarzenegger" anymore? Isn't the whole damn name kinda un-pc?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at February 10, 2019 12:21 PM (Clxcy)

365 Philip K Dick in the 1970s:

There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 12:22 PM (1UZdv)

366 I am rereading Ryk E. Spoor's rollicking Space Opera, Spheres of Influence. The sequel to Grand Center Arena.

Great fun. It's a SF world I find very interesting.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2019 12:22 PM (u82oZ)

367 Any Hemingway/Fitzgerald....for me.

1.Open cover
2.Zzzzzzzz

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 12:22 PM (cxHbL)

368 Pride and Prejudice outline:

1.Blah, blah, blah
2.Spunky heroine wins heart rich guy

Sense and Sensibility outline:

1.Blah, blah, blah
2. spunky heroines won hearts of rich guy and formerly rich guy

Emma outline:

1.Blah, blah, blah
2.Spunky heroine wins heart of rich guy

Persuasion:

1.Blah, blah, blah
2.Spunky heroine rewind heart of rich guy

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:23 PM (jm1YL)

369 I describe it as she cheats on her fiance, the ship sinks, her heart goes on.
Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:18 PM (9/vGE)

OT, but.

My dad once put forward the theory that James Cameron only makes one movie-- a story about hubris in technology being brought low. Skynet, the Colonial Marines, the 'unsinkable' Titanic, nuclear weapons (The Abyss), and Space Alien Indians.

Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:23 PM (7PLM4)

370 341 Slaughterhouse Five:

1. Blah blah blah
2. Space alien zoo sex
Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:11 PM (7PLM4)


1. Blah
2. Zoo
3. Blah
4. Alien
5. Blah
6. Space
7. Blah
8. Sex

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 12:23 PM (sdi6R)

371 Hi.

Library pic: After the "whoa!" at the whole place, after the "huh!" looking at the op-art floor tiles, came the "man, I'm glad I don't have to dust and clean that place!"



As I read through the Upcoming Big Screen Adaptations, it gradually dawned on me that maybe this wasn't some Onion-like parody article.

Posted by: mindful webworker's incredulous ghost, hanging around, at February 10, 2019 12:24 PM (Iynsv)

372 ''Great Expectations Outline:

1. Blah, blah, blah
2. Guillotined!

Wrong Dickens. A for effort though

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:24 PM (jm1YL)

373 Tom Hanks has been doing remakes of Bachelor Party for 35 years.

Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2019 12:24 PM (wxZSX)

374 I just started G.J. Meyers' A World Undone. Archduke Franz Ferdinand just got whacked by a Serbian nationalist. Austria-Hungary is making threats. Not sure where all of this will go.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 12:24 PM (UGqF8)

375 368 Pride and Prejudice outline:

1.Blah, blah, blah
2.Spunky heroine wins heart rich guy

Sense and Sensibility outline:

1.Blah, blah, blah
2. spunky heroines won hearts of rich guy and formerly rich guy

Emma outline:

1.Blah, blah, blah
2.Spunky heroine wins heart of rich guy

Persuasion:

1.Blah, blah, blah
2.Spunky heroine rewind heart of rich guy
Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:23 PM (jm1YL)


Emma is completely different. She's already rich.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 12:24 PM (VaN/j)

376 Eh, I got nuthin''.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2019 12:19 PM (kQs4Y)

Same here.

But hi to everyone all the same!

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 12:25 PM (XmV7U)

377 Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 11:49 AM (1UZdv)

Those protests in Iran have been going on for (nearly a year now?) and you would never know it from US coverage. The media did dutifully relay the Ayatollah's lie about "Death to America" chants, required by government, being just about Trump. Rita Panahi (something like that) called BS on Twitter, saying her school class in Tehran 30 years ago had been forced to chant it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2019 12:25 PM (phT8I)

378 Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:23 PM (jm1YL)

Yes, it's Chick Drama Lit. But it's really well written Chick Drama Lit.

Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (7PLM4)

379 374 I just started G.J. Meyers' A World Undone. Archduke Franz Ferdinand just got whacked by a Serbian nationalist. Austria-Hungary is making threats. Not sure where all of this will go.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 12:24 PM (UGqF


Reminds me of when my wife got into Band of Brothers. At one point I said "I don't want to spoil it for you, but we win." She threw a pillow at me.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (VaN/j)

380 Rescue Party:

1. Earth being destroyed by a nova in the Sun.
Very alien aliens attempt to rescue inhabitants.

2. Blah, blah, blah.

3. Humanity self-rescued beforehand. Universe, watch out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (u82oZ)

381 ''Emma is completely different. She's already rich.''

Still Spunky though.

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (jm1YL)

382 Slaughterhouse Five:

1. Blah blah blah
2. Space alien zoo sex

Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:11 PM (7PLM4)

But....but....Montana Wildhack!

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (cxHbL)

383 Rita Panahi (something like that) called BS on Twitter, saying her school class in Tehran 30 years ago had been forced to chant it.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2019 12:25 PM (phT8I)

-------

They knew Trump was coming.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (UGqF8)

384 LOTR:
1. Blah blah blah3. My Precious and the Crack of Doom
Sounds like a porno.

Posted by: I like cookies at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (xxAFD)

385 Yep. There's a guy on YouTube, a prof whose name escapes me right now, who has a very interesting series of lectures about Shakespeare and politics and one of his major themes is how the history plays are based on the constant fight for control between the monarch and the nobility. Henry V managed to gain the upper hand because of his success in war, but once you got a monarch who was a weakling, the power struggles started up again immediately. "

That story is true for almost all countries - France and Russia, for example, where the Monarchy ended up with an unequivocal victory. What makes English history so fascinating, and so significant historically for the entire world, is that there were other players who were just as, and sometimes more powerful. First was the Church, which for a long time was able to maintain a completely parallel legal system. Henry VIII's overthrow of Rome wasn't just about Ann Boleyn, it was also about the Monarchy finally being able to seize the power of the Church for its own use, something monarchs had wanted to do for centuries.

And then, more so in England than in most other countries (save for the Netherlands) there was the rising Commercial class - no titles, no inherited powers, but control of great amounts of wealth and all the levers of trade. The wealthier they got, the less willing they were to take orders from anyone.

With this many competing power centers, it was impossible for any one of them to win out completely over all the others, and alliances were always shifting and fluid. England's greatest innovation was to get them all to meet together and work out their differences in a thing they called Parliament. And since that body eventually came to incorporate the powers of all of them, it ended up being stronger than any of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (V2Yro)

386 376 Eh, I got nuthin''.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2019 12:19 PM (kQs4Y)

Same here.

But hi to everyone all the same!
Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 12:25 PM (XmV7U)
-------
Howdy AHE and hogmartin!

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2019 12:27 PM (MVjcR)

387 Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 12:23 PM (sdi6R)

So it goes.

Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:27 PM (7PLM4)

388 Emma is completely different. She's already rich.

Heh. I guess they're well-written but I just cannot get into any of those books. Its all elegant parties and annoying people and nothing really happening.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2019 12:27 PM (39g3+)

389 Reminds me of when my wife got into Band of Brothers. At one point I said "I don't want to spoil it for you, but we win." She threw a pillow at me.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (VaN/j)


LOL

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 12:27 PM (UGqF8)

390 In homage to Muldoon:

Bill the bomber was a blackguard,
he kept the gendarmie en garde.
Alas one day he had terrible gas,
an explosion blew out his ass,
hoisting Bill on his own petard.

Posted by: Call me Deacon Bleau at February 10, 2019 12:28 PM (0x00j)

391 Emma is completely different. She's already rich.


Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 12:24 PM (VaN/j)

Another suggestion for Emma:
1) Blah, blah, blah.
2) Hero acquires rich, busybody wife nearly half his age and a hypochondriac father-in-law.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:28 PM (9/vGE)

392
But....but....Montana Wildhack!
Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (cxHbL)

?

I only read it once. I'll let Immortan Joe give my review.

"MEDIOCRE!"

Thanks. What he said.

Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:29 PM (7PLM4)

393 --. --- --- -.. / -- --- .-. -. .. -. --. -.-.--
Posted by: runner at February 10, 2019 12:14 PM

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Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2019 12:20 PM


-... . / ... ..- .-. . / - --- / -.. .-. .. -. -.- / -.-- --- ..- .-. / --- ...- .- .-.. - .. -. . .-.-.-

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 12:30 PM (DMUuz)

394 329 Moby Dick:

1. Blah blah blah
2. GIANT SPERM WHALE BOAT SINKS

.
Dick? SPERM?
.
Tell me more!!

Posted by: Shep! at February 10, 2019 12:30 PM (YibTd)

395 Washington Square:

1. Old maid sits in her house, doing nothing.
2. Blah blah blah
3. Old maid sits in her house, doing nothing.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 10, 2019 12:30 PM (cY3LT)

396 ''LOTR:
1. Blah blah blah3. My Precious and the Crack of Doom
Sounds like a porno.''

It does doesn't it? LOL

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:30 PM (jm1YL)

397 Heh. I guess they're well-written but I just cannot get into any of those books. Its all elegant parties and annoying people and nothing really happening.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2019 12:27 PM (39g3+)

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is much, much better than it has any right to be. Wickham gets a better ending as well. Well... Not better for him.

Posted by: Vanya, Literary Critic at February 10, 2019 12:31 PM (7PLM4)

398 Waiting for Godot:

1. Blah. Blah blah. Blah, blah, blah

2. Go to 1.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:32 PM (nPGq2)

399 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 12:04 PM (d6Ksn)

It was fascinating to learn in a G.A. Henty book that rioting has been a Parisian hobby for nearly a thousand years.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2019 12:32 PM (phT8I)

400 Heh. I guess they're well-written but I just
cannot get into any of those books. Its all elegant parties and
annoying people and nothing really happening.


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2019 12:27 PM (39g3+)


Try out Lady Susan; it's much shorter in length and pretty much written in letter format. She's a real piece of work. You can find it online for free pretty easily.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:32 PM (9/vGE)

401 Thomas Hardy novels:

1.blah, blah, blah
2.depresing ending

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:33 PM (jm1YL)

402 Do "Old Yeller"

"Here boy, here boy...."

BLAM !

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2019 12:33 PM (d1R3N)

403 The New Horizons space probe is so far away that it now transmits data at about the same rate as a Baudot TTY dialup used in the 70's

Posted by: Neo at February 10, 2019 12:33 PM (e8kgV)

404 392


But....but....Montana Wildhack!

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (cxHbL)

Vonnegut took the name Wildhack from an Indianapolis family his parents were friends with. They were not terribly flattered by the use he put their surname to, but I can't blame Vonnegut - it's a great last name.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 12:33 PM (d6Ksn)

405 Hey, Weasel!

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 12:33 PM (XmV7U)

406 -... . / ... ..- .-. . / - --- /

They've #LearnedToCode!

Posted by: Little Lupe at February 10, 2019 12:34 PM (Tyii7)

407 I love libraries, always have. I love printed books. Always have. Love computers, well yeah maybe sometimes. All the books shown in the picture would fit neatly on a couple of bleu ray data disks. With enough left over for all the porn in playboy, hustler, and BDSM Weekly. Just Sayin'.

Posted by: Ray at February 10, 2019 12:34 PM (AVxHd)

408 ''Try out Lady Susan; it's much shorter in length and pretty much written in letter format. She's a real piece of work. You can find it online for free pretty easily.''

Did you see the movie with Kate Beckinsale. Too, too funny.

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:34 PM (jm1YL)

409 England's greatest innovation was to get them all to meet together and work out their differences in a thing they called Parliament. And since that body eventually came to incorporate the powers of all of them, it ended up being stronger than any of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (V2Yro)

Have you ever seen a televised interpretation of a session of Parliament? It's like the Two Minute Hate meets the World Cup.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 12:35 PM (3sjI6)

410 380
Rescue Party:



1. Earth being destroyed by a nova in the Sun.

Very alien aliens attempt to rescue inhabitants.



2. Blah, blah, blah.



3. Humanity self-rescued beforehand. Universe, watch out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2019 12:26 PM (u82oZ)


That sounds more like "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage. That was actually a pretty good movie.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 12:35 PM (mpXpK)

411
In 1979 an Ayatollah departed France to take over the Iranian government.

My greatest fear is that someday an Ayatollah will someday depart Iran to take over the French government. The French have to shit to get done to make sure that doesn't happen.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 12:35 PM (jYje5)

412 Forcing HS boys to read the Brontes is a hate crime.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 12:36 PM (hvV4q)

413 It was fascinating to learn in a G.A. Henty book that rioting has been a Parisian hobby for nearly a thousand years.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2019 12:32 PM (phT8I)

Frog resume:Hobbies: drinking wine, eating fromage, making ze steak frites, screwing ze neighbor's wife, rioting in street

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 12:37 PM (d6Ksn)

414 ''Forcing HS boys to read the Brontes is a hate crime.''

Jane Eyre outline:

1.blah, blah, blah
2. Spunky orphan wins heart of rich guy

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:38 PM (jm1YL)

415 I love libraries, always have. I love printed books. Always have. Love computers, well yeah maybe sometimes. All the books shown in the picture would fit neatly on a couple of bleu ray data disks. With enough left over for all the porn in playboy, hustler, and BDSM Weekly. Just Sayin'.
Posted by: Ray at February 10, 2019 12:34 PM (AVxHd)

Yeah, but there's something good to say about ostentatious opulence. See pretty, sparkly things!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 12:38 PM (3sjI6)

416 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:32 PM (nPGq2)

Hahaha!

Posted by: April at February 10, 2019 12:39 PM (OX9vb)

417 Because Pratchett...

I've tried to find a place in England to visit in honor of Pratchett and the only one I've found is the shop he co-founded that sells items themed around Discworld. But it's only open four days a week, for six hours each day, and is located in a spot I will literally circle around and never get closer than an hour's drive.

I am peeved...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 10, 2019 12:39 PM (naEeR)

418 Did you see the movie with Kate Beckinsale. Too, too funny.



Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:34 PM (jm1YL)


I haven't, no.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:41 PM (9/vGE)

419 Frog resume:Hobbies: drinking wine, eating fromage, making ze steak frites, screwing ze neighbor's wife, rioting in street
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 12:37 PM


Ha-rumphing; sneering at non-Frogs/the wrong Frogs; taking the month of August completely off; bathing infrequently, if at all

Posted by: Frog résumé bullet points you skipped (now with és for more authenticity) at February 10, 2019 12:41 PM (DMUuz)

420 Come on people. There are more blah, blah, blahs out there.

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:42 PM (jm1YL)

421 In 1979 an Ayatollah departed France to take over the Iranian government.

My greatest fear is that someday an Ayatollah will someday depart Iran to take over the French government. The French have to shit to get done to make sure that doesn't happen."

Everyone who takes over the French Government ends up regretting it, going all the way back to the last Louie. Let the Ayatollah have it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2019 12:42 PM (V2Yro)

422 I love early Library architecture


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Andrew Carnegie

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 12:42 PM (mpXpK)

423 I'm thinking of bringing a lawsuit that for every Bronte novel on a HS syllabus there must be one Flashman novel.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 12:43 PM (hvV4q)

424 We cheered when Old Yeller died.

Posted by: The Democrat Party at February 10, 2019 12:44 PM (Tyii7)

425 It was fascinating to learn in a G.A. Henty book that rioting has been a Parisian hobby for nearly a thousand years.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2019 12:32 PM (phT8I)

Frog resume:Hobbies: drinking wine, eating fromage, making ze steak frites, screwing ze neighbor's wife, rioting in street
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 12:37 PM (d6Ksn)

Ze drinking of ze wine, ze eating of ze fromage, ze making ze steak frites, ze screwing of ze neighbors wife gets so tedious. Rioting is a fun way to, how you say, blow off ze steam.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 12:44 PM (3sjI6)

426 Weasel!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2019 12:44 PM (kQs4Y)

427 Back to The Call of the Wild.
It is animated, so I withdraw my objections to Harrison Ford.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 12:45 PM (zCabI)

428 le car-b-cue

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 12:45 PM (gbepJ)

429 ''I haven't, no.
Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:41 PM (9/vGE)''

Do watch it. Kate is so good as are all the other actors. It's delightful. I think Amazon produced it.

Posted by: Tuna at February 10, 2019 12:45 PM (jm1YL)

430 426 Weasel!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2019 12:44 PM (kQs4Y)
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I trust the Book Thread Authorities will allow me to say how great it was to meet everyone last night!

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2019 12:46 PM (MVjcR)

431 It is animated, so I withdraw my objections to Harrison Ford.
Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 12:45 PM


I know.

Posted by: Han Solo at February 10, 2019 12:46 PM (DMUuz)

432 Back to The Call of the Wild.
It is animated, so I withdraw my objections to Harrison Ford.
Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 12:45 PM (zCabI)

Does he do the vocalizations for Buck? That would be within his emotional range.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 10, 2019 12:48 PM (3sjI6)

433 I trust the Book Thread Authorities will allow me to say how great it was to meet everyone last night!
Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2019 12:46 PM


They're allowing kilts to qualify as pants now.

Given that slippery slope, who knows where the bottom is?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 12:48 PM (DMUuz)

434 I trust the Book Thread Authorities will allow me to say how great it was to meet everyone last night!

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2019 12:46 PM



They're allowing kilts to qualify as pants now.



Given that slippery slope, who knows where the bottom is?


Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 12:48 PM (DMUuz)

GGE couldn't make it to yesterday's festivities, but the past times he attended the NoVaMoMee he wore a kilt. Those times were in June, though.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:50 PM (9/vGE)

435 They're allowing kilts to qualify as pants now.

Given that slippery slope, who knows where the bottom is?

Under the kilt ?

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2019 12:51 PM (d1R3N)

436 Apropos of absolutely nothing. Apparently Ariana Grande sang the national anthem at a Florida Panthers game when she was under 10. She was also hit by a puck at an NHL game twice before she was 5.
She was also hit on by a creep in her early 20s.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 10, 2019 12:53 PM (MkcN1)

437 who knows where the bottom is?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 12:48 PM (DMUuz)

Well, beneath the kilt, for one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 10, 2019 12:54 PM (FXbwN)

438 John Le Carre novels:

1. Blah, blah blah.
2. Kill them all.

Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2019 12:54 PM (wxZSX)

439 Me type slow.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 10, 2019 12:54 PM (FXbwN)

440 You know, as a lurker I hate this post because its by far my favorite weekend one but by the time I'm home from church it's 450 comments in...

Posted by: Aivanther at February 10, 2019 12:54 PM (WNAwi)

441 hello to Weasel, All Hail Eris, Hogmartin, Vendette, Bluebell (Mrs. and Mr.), CBD, Jinx the Cat, NGU, and so many others. The MoMe was so great. I even got the chance to thank Weasel and CBD personally for their efforts with the threads. The only problem was there wasn't enough time to talk to everyone, long enough.

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 12:56 PM (bmdz3)

442 Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2019 12:56 PM (bmdz3)



*Waves*

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:56 PM (9/vGE)

443 Nood.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:57 PM (9/vGE)

444 420 Come on people. There are more blah, blah, blahs out there.


Rules for Radicals
1. blah blah blah
2. Achieve Communist shithole!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2019 12:58 PM (BJlbN)

445 nood

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 12:59 PM (mpXpK)

446 They're allowing kilts to qualify as pants now.

Given that slippery slope, who knows where the bottom is?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 12:48 PM (DMUuz)

Is it under the kilt?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:01 PM (XmV7U)

447 GGE couldn't make it to yesterday's festivities, but the past times he attended the NoVaMoMee he wore a kilt. Those times were in June, though.
Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 12:50 PM


In Scotland, they'd think nae aboot that.

On a rugby tour of Great Britain, the midpoint was a game in Edinburgh. I was scheduled not to play, and happy about it, as I was in the depths of my second cold of the trip and not feeling that well. However, the team we were playing needed a player for their third side's game, and I was drafted.

Dressed and on the pitch, it was bloody cold. I've played with snow on the field in the U.S. more than one, and this was the coldest I'd experienced. The lads on their team kept coming up, and apologizing for "how warm it is, Yank." Initially, i thought they were having a bit of fun at the Yank's expense, but enough did it seriously that began to believe it.

No true Scotsman is going to complain about drafts, is my conclusion.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 01:01 PM (DMUuz)

448
427 Back to The Call of the Wild.
It is animated, so I withdraw my objections to Harrison Ford.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 12:45 PM (zCabI)

It's live action combined with CGI animated Buck, played by motion capture "choreographer" Terry Notary (from Planet of the Apes, Hobbit, etc.)

Posted by: Sad Buck at February 10, 2019 01:02 PM (NqQAS)

449 Should've figured I'd get beaten to that one in the time it takes to get through the checkpoint.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:02 PM (XmV7U)

450 You know, as a lurker I hate this post because its
by far my favorite weekend one but by the time I'm home from church it's
450 comments in...



Posted by: Aivanther at February 10, 2019 12:54 PM (WNAwi)


Welcome!

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 01:04 PM (9/vGE)

451 Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 01:01 PM (DMUuz)

I have no doubt that GGE would have shown up yesterday wearing his kilt.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 01:05 PM (9/vGE)

452 Hello there Vendette! Nice to meet you.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (XmV7U)

453 On rugby and weather, I once played in a gail force wind. Rugby balls are lighter than footballs, but larger and have a tendency to sail.

Hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (hvV4q)

454 Hello there Vendette! Nice to meet you.



Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2019 01:08 PM (XmV7U)


Same!

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 01:09 PM (9/vGE)

455 441
hello to Weasel, All Hail Eris, Hogmartin, Vendette, Bluebell (Mrs. and Mr.), CBD, Jinx the Cat, NGU, and so many others."
What a great bunch of 'rons and 'ettes! I'm jealous.
All I did last night was go out for pizza (it was very good pizza) and watch "To Sir With Love" a movie which dates from the time smart-ass white working class blokes, rather than Muzzie pedo rings and acid throwers, scared the fish and chips right out of middle class Brits. Extremely dated movie, but I've always had a weakness for Sidney Poitier.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 01:27 PM (d6Ksn)

456 Posted by: DonnaV at February 10, 2019 01:27 PM (d6Ksn)



Well, if you can make it to a future NoVAMoMee and Maud'dib once again makes the name tags, people can envy the ampersands in your nic in person.

Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 01:29 PM (9/vGE)

457 Well, if you can make it to a future NoVAMoMee and
Maud'dib once again makes the name tags, people can envy the ampersands
in your nic in person.


Posted by: Vendette at February 10, 2019 01:29 PM (9/vGE)

My ampersands are yuge and luxurious!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 01:31 PM (d6Ksn)

458 My ampersands are yuge and luxurious!
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at February 10, 2019 01:31 PM


Y'all just have to strut those Cardboard Membership privileges ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2019 01:34 PM (DMUuz)

459 262
Finishing the three book Raven series by Kevin Miller. Easily the best techno-read since early Clancy. Great series.

Diogenes- I had not heard of this series. Thanks for posting about it,

Posted by: Charlotte at February 10, 2019 01:53 PM (JwHYp)

460 We cheered when Old Yeller died.
Posted by: The Democrat Party at February 10, 2019 12:44 PM (Tyii7)


Honestly I was hoping Travis would turn Doctor 12 gauge on his fat fuck brother, Arliss, for being a Mike al-Moor level irritating tub of shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 10, 2019 02:03 PM (1pz14)

461 The link on the side about Ian Fleming's interview with Raymond Chandler has some interesting moments. Having read both of these authors extensively (and repeatedly), there styles were different but both were entertaining.

The James Bond in the books was not well reflected in the movies. Connery and Craig had parts of the Bond character but not fully.

Marlowe also was shown in the movies differently but my favorite was Robert Mitchum (not Bogart).

Posted by: zogger at February 10, 2019 02:11 PM (SKahJ)

462 Re the shout out on the new Thomas Perry, The Burglar, and the bonus of (his first book) The Butcher's Boy, Perry writes books seemingly designed for the Horde. They're absolutely riveting. My favorite is Perry's Jane Whitefield series which begins with Vanishing Act. Whitefield is a full-blooded descendant of the Oneida tribe (sorry, Fauxcahontas) who uses her Native American skills in reverse. She doesn't track people; she helps them disappear.

The psychology of staying successfully "underground" is fascinating, including right vs left, what car to drive, and how to shake pursuers in a crowd.

Butcher's Boy, IIRC, since I read it eons ago, is about an orphan adopted by a butcher. The butcher's side gig is hitman. He teaches his adopted son everything he knows.

This week I'm reading A Borrowing of Bones, by Paula Munier. If you love dogs, esp. military or search-rescue dogs, this is your book. The two main characters work with both and uncover weirdness in the Vermont wilderness over a 4th of July weekend.
Admittedly, it's meandering, and if I have to read one more time about everyone who comes in contact with the dogs scratching behind their ears (the dogs, that is), I'm gonna scream.

That said, OM's snippet about Good Omens looks way more interesting.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 10, 2019 02:22 PM (tGSHk)

463 Good afternoon,

I purchased the C.S. Lewis _Present Concerns_ after the mention last week.

The Abolition of Man is probably the best single item to read concerning modernity.

As I've grown in my knowledge of theology, I rely less and less on Lewis views in that department. I don't think he considered himself a theologian, and thus I think he would have no problem with that. At a certain time in my life, his writings were very helpful. Now I value more and more his writings concering modernity.

Posted by: goodluckduck at February 10, 2019 03:32 PM (V8zw+)

464 @440 --

Aivanther, I know what you mean! I devote three hours of my Sundays to church, and the Book Thread is on its last skein by the time I get to it. (This Sunday was an exception; the thread had begun before church.)

It doesn't help that I'm a completionist in regard to blog threads. By the time I get to the end, the day is shot. I don't know how some of the Horde can keep conversations going on every thread. I suspect they are retirees (at 29).

Anyway, you're not alone.

Maybe we should do like church and have two threads.

*heavy thud*

OM? OM? (pats his wrist) Speak to me!

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 10, 2019 04:10 PM (SSEHD)

465 Just finished Dead Aim by Thomas Perry, and while it meanders a bit in the middle, towards the end the suspense rachets up to an incredible degree. Also please avoid "the cabin at the End of the World" - a thriller for SJWs that al but mentions the T word.

Posted by: vivi at February 10, 2019 04:16 PM (11H2y)

466 ????

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2019 12:20 PM (VaN/j)


Oops. I sure screwed that one up. I meant Tale of Two Cities.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 04:32 PM (wem1b)

467 Green Nude Eel:

1. Blah, blah, blah
2. Venezuela!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 04:35 PM (wem1b)

468 Greetings:

Just started reading "Rogue Justice: The Making of the Security State" by Karen J. Greenberg. It was published in 2016, before "The War on Trump" really took off.

It had a blurb from Ali Soufan whom I had previously read but the book itself reads like an Orwellian "Up is Down; Left is Right". In attacking her perceptions, she reports on the machinations of Ted Kennedy, Mueller, the FISA court, warranting seeking FBI-ers etc. in an attempt to tamp down their more egregious efforts. But in light of what has been revealed since the exposures of the Comey-world FBI and the intelligence versus criminal cases manipulations, it's through the looking glass all the way down.

Of course, her early whine about "Japanese-American Internment" did nothing for our relationship. I hope that I can muster the emotional well-being to read it all the way through.

Posted by: 11B40 at February 10, 2019 04:39 PM (evgyj)

469 Back to The Call of the Wild.
It is animated, so I withdraw my objections to Harrison Ford.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 12:45 PM (zCabI)

It's live action combined with CGI animated Buck, played by motion capture "choreographer" Terry Notary (from Planet of the Apes, Hobbit, etc.)
Posted by: Sad Buck at February 10, 2019 01:02 PM


I renew my objection. Current day Harrison Ford should not play John Thornton.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 10, 2019 04:58 PM (zCabI)

470 >>> the non-war time Washington and his time with Mount Vernon.

Hopefully you are still checking the thread! One of my favorite books about Washington and Mt Vernon is the book Founding Gardeners. I think you cannot understand the Man unless you understand the care and devotion he put into his gardens. He was even obsessing about them at Valley Forge. War in the balance, his head in a noose if they lose, and he still cared about the spring plantings.

I also have a great book about the architecture and interior design of mount Vernon. Neat to see how he built it out from its original humble frame into a masterpiece of design and proportion.

Aivanther I have the same prob on sundays. Church, then lunch, then family obligations. By the time I can read the AOS in the afternoon, the east coast has turned into eve. But always still a good read.

Posted by: LizLem at February 10, 2019 05:41 PM (VjxvX)

471 I consider the book thread open all day.

Posted by: goodluckduck at February 10, 2019 06:15 PM (V8zw+)

472 Hi

Posted by: Quilp at February 10, 2019 06:43 PM (40oqD)

473 471 I consider the book thread open all day.
Posted by: goodluckduck at February 10, 2019 06:15 PM (V8zw+)


So do I!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 10, 2019 07:06 PM (wem1b)

474 Jean: I wish you all the best with the writing. Some good advice here today. You'll find a way that works for you. Despite the endless mockery, the outlining can prove a helpful way to organize your thoughts. Because sometimes charging blindly ahead works, and sometimes, it don't.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at February 10, 2019 08:23 PM (tlXVi)

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