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New York Times Editorial: Democrats Should Admit They're In Favor of Open Borders and Just Go YOLO With It

No one's in favor of Open Borders, except for 85% of the political and media class (including the allegedly conservative media class being kept fat and happy by their corporate angels).

At least, no one admits being in favor of open borders to the rubes.

But this editorial suggests its time to drop the masks.

NY Times opinion writer Farhad Manjoo says it's time for the Democratic Party, or some brave person in it, to drag the Overton Window to the left on immigration. He believes there's a solid case to be made for open borders and it's time someone made it.


Imagine radically shifting our stance toward outsiders from one of suspicion to one of warm embrace. Imagine that if you passed a minimal background check, you'd be free to live, work, pay taxes and die in the United States. Imagine moving from Nigeria to Nebraska as freely as one might move from Massachusetts to Maine.

There's a witheringly obvious moral, economic, strategic and cultural case for open borders, and we have a political opportunity to push it. As Democrats jockey for the presidency, there's room for a brave politician to oppose President Trump's racist immigration rhetoric not just by fighting his wall and calling for the abolishment of I.C.E. but also by making a proactive and affirmative case for the vast expansion of immigration.

He's certainly playing up the bright side of this politically, but the actual reasoning is a bit, err, confused.


When you see the immigration system up close, you're confronted with its bottomless unfairness. The system assumes that people born outside our borders are less deserving of basic rights than those inside. My native-born American friends did not seem to me to warrant any more dignity than my South African ones; according to this nations founding documents, we were all created equal. Yet by mere accident of geography, some were given freedom, and others were denied it.

Much more at the link.

He has discovered the "bottomless unfairness" that people who are American citizens are American citizens and people who are not American citizens are equally not American citizens.

And this unfairness must be fixed by making every person in the world American.

Note that the #Woker segments of Corporate Shill "Conservatism" were very quick to dismiss this as merely being an editorial in the leading Democrat/liberal newspaper in America:



I guess it's not just the acknowledged Democrat media figures saying "YOLO."

Hey, snazzy blazers with nautically-themed buttons aren't cheap!

Look, this is supported by both kinds of People Who Matter, liberal Democrats and liberal Republicans!

Trust Your Establishment Betters, peon. They want what's best for you, and also, seven billion non-Americans yearning take your place.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:56 PM




Comments

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1 numero uno?

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2019 02:57 PM (d7Ww2)

2
They don't want open borders. They just don't want the US to have a national identity. See?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 02:58 PM (/9p9e)

3


Manjoo?


MANJOO???

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (vk99r)

4 NY Times opinion writer Farhad Manjoo

I read that as "Farthead Manjuice."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (ptqGC)

5 I have maintained for a long time that one effective (and true) way to get across the problems of unlimited immigration to suburbanites is to ask them if they want their traffic worse, grocery lines longer, more kids crowding their schools, more of their remaining woods cut down for more subdivisions and apartments.

In short: its getting too fucking crowded here.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (koNhm)

6
Manjoo. Man+Joo.

A name that should trigger Sarsour, Ilhan Omar and T-Labia like crazy, right?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (/9p9e)

7 He has discovered the "bottomless unfairness" that people who are American citizens are American citizens and people who are not American citizens are equally not American citizens.
===
and it turns out these citizens tend to be white which means those who like america are white nationalissss

Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (7J5t2)

8 Heighten the differences!

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (h5Df3)

9 Okay Guy Benson - show me proof the democrats disagree with the NYTimes Op Ed.. because I don't see any.

Posted by: CNN at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (xOBRH)

10
"Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil" - Jeremiah 13:23

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (BWL+E)

11

Let's get Ben Shapiro to debate Mr Manjoo!

Ben can point out where Manjoo is wrong!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (vk99r)

12 Pelosi already stated fences are immoral, it's not a secret.

Posted by: willow at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (zy5Ai)

13 We need a civil war to be extremely uncivil.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (tHAoL)

14 First Rule on Immigration - anyone named Farhad Manjoo doesn't get it.

Next question.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (2LelM)

15
YOLO? You Only Live Once? Bad movie. Worst of the Jim Bonds.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (jYje5)

16 10
"Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil" - Jeremiah 13:23
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (BWL+E)


And the cuck crowed 3 times...

- - Kristol 1:2:3

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (/9p9e)

17 you know what, I'm fully behind this.

let the borders be wide open, let everyone be an American.

but in exchange, the United States constitution, AS WRITTEN and amended, is the governing law of the planet. 1st and 2nd amendment for every person on the planet. I can freely move to any country, take my guns and my insults, and they have to accept me. this works both ways..

oh and PDJT is president of the earth...

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (8D42x)

18 Is Manjoo a real name?

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (2LelM)

19
Manjoo?


MANJOO???
Posted by: Soothsayer


gesundheit

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (aKsyK)

20 I thought America was terrible compared to socialist countries anyway...

Posted by: steevy at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (BXMxN)

21
6
Manjoo. Man+Joo.

A name that should trigger Sarsour, Ilhan Omar and T-Labia like crazy, right?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (/9p9e)

The next era of mad science by Yakub, inventor of the white man, patent pending.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (h5Df3)

22 Pelosi already stated fences are immoral, it's not a secret.
Posted by: willow



Except for the one around her home.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (tHAoL)

23 "Yet by mere accident of geography culture / philosophy, some were given freedom, and others were denied it."


FIFY

The stoopid is strong in this one.

Posted by: Hands at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (786Ro)

24 fine.
if people want to come here, they should wait in line.
follow our laws
learn our language
and respect our culture.

they should also support themselves and contribute to society.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (d7Ww2)

25 Carry over from last thread - something your dad should teach you: LIFE IS NOT FAIR!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (W+vEI)

26 You want everybody in the world to be American citizens?

Alright. Deal. In exchange, we now have sovereign control over every square inch of the planet. That's how it works, right? We can't care for our citizens if we don't even control the areas which they inhabit.

Every other government in the world, you have until Monday to clear out your desks.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (oZ6kz)

27 Man WHO????

Posted by: NC Ref at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (KB3MD)

28 14 First Rule on Immigration - anyone named Farhad Manjoo doesn't get it.

Next question.
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (2LelM)


In all seriousness, people who jumped through the hoops and waited in line to become citizens do in fact get it. Especially those from former gulag countries.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (/9p9e)

29
Open borders is in fact, horribly racist. It's the theft of the best and brightest people of color from their countries of origin. Which condemns the remaining majority to a life of squalor, poverty and violence.

Open borders is a borderline act of war against whole nations full of non-white people.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (ijO9y)

30
NOBODY IS SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE OPEN BORDERS.

IDIOTS, ALL WE'RE SAYING IS WE SHOULD LET EVERYONE INTO THE COUNTRY WHO WANTS TO COME HERE, AND CUT THE GRASS ON THE BORDER TO MAKE IT EASIER TO TRAVEL. AND ABOLISH ICE.

Posted by: The Left at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (vk99r)

31 OK. I pronounce the ultimate 'open-border'.

The entire earth is now The United States of America.

I'm calling dibs on the Yucatan.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (n0W4B)

32 When did we stop giving these immigrants American names? This is probably when things went pear shape.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (2LelM)

33 Wait, this guys is name "Manjoo"?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (xfb67)

34 All this just so limousine liberals can have dirt-cheap domestic help. *shakes head*

Posted by: pookysgirl at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (XKZwp)

35

Invade the world

Invite the world

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (aKsyK)

36 There''s a witheringly obvious moral, economic, strategic and cultural case for open borders, and we have a political opportunity to push it. As Democrats jockey for the presidency, there's room for a brave politician to oppose President Trump's racist immigration rhetoric not just by fighting his wall and calling for the abolishment of I.C.E. but also by making a proactive and affirmative case for the vast expansion of immigration.

Oh yes, there it is. Let the false dichotomy wash over you.
Any opposition to open borders is reactionary racism. No shades of gray, no legitimate concerns over where these people come from, cultural compatibility, etc. Just pure racism.

Also, who the hell allowed this to be published with the non-word "abolishment?" There's a perfectly good *real* word for this. It's "abolition" - although I suppose that's just the white man's language.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (I2dne)

37 21 The next era of mad science by Yakub, inventor of the white man, patent pending.
Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (h5Df3)


And on the 7th day G-d rested... which allowed the Jooz to sneak in and steal the weather machine!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (/9p9e)

38 this is a very big issue because the inertia is on the side of letting in 2,000,000 plus a year every year forever without end. And that's not including illegals and H1B's that pop a kid out.

the immigration laws in our nation have to be designed by the most evil people possible.

and we need big push to change the laws to something that makes sense.

Are we a nation of people who are already here or are we a nation of the next boat load of people?

Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (7J5t2)

39 Let me get this straight, Dems and Cucks have tried to spread Americanism via the Military, which hasn't worked out so well, so, the alternate plan is to bring all those people here?

Groovy.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (qC1Sy)

40 17 you know what, I'm fully behind this.

let the borders be wide open, let everyone be an American.

but in exchange, the United States constitution, AS WRITTEN and amended, is the governing law of the planet. 1st and 2nd amendment for every person on the planet. I can freely move to any country, take my guns and my insults, and they have to accept me. this works both ways..

oh and PDJT is president of the earth...

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (8D42x)

God emperor, and that's as cheap as I can make it.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (h5Df3)

41 The NYT has been the enemy of the American people for a long, long time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (bcbK8)

42
Manjoo?


MANJOO???
Posted by: Soothsayer



gesundheit

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.



Heh.

Posted by: The Left at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (vk99r)

43 "Man"joo. Sounds toxic.

Posted by: m at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (QfXC4)

44 32 When did we stop giving these immigrants American names? This is probably when things went pear shape.
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (2LelM)


Vito Andolini < Vito Corleone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (/9p9e)

45 I bet he's relived he's not named Mangoo.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (xfb67)

46 He's not saying it's aliens, but...

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (DNj86)

47 So this shit thinks the Revolutionary War is an "accident of geography"? Some people are way too stupid

Posted by: CN at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (U7k5w)

48 43 "Man"joo. Sounds toxic.
Posted by: m at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (QfXC4)


"byyyyy MENnen!"

not the best a manjoo can get.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (/9p9e)

49 NY Times opinion writer Forehead Manjuice is an idiot.

Posted by: SMH at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (RU4sa)

50 @guypbenson
I mean, it's someone writing an op-ed in the Times.



*frottage* -- er, I mean *fist bump*

Posted by: Tru Cons - protecting you from victory since 1988 at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (786Ro)

51 6
Manjoo. Man+Joo.

It's pronounced 'man-HOO'. As in manhooha, aka mangina or 'front hole'.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (n0W4B)

52

Hello Sailor! my borders are open!

Posted by: Steve MAGA at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (n2qRY)

53 First rule of religious missionaries - you have to go and live in the shitholes. Don't bring your work home with you.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (2LelM)

54 >>>>The system assumes that people born outside our borders are less deserving of basic rights than those inside.



IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE TO ASSUME PEOPLE BORN OUTSIDE OF OUR BORDERS LIFE BY AMERICAN LAWS AND VALUES WOULD BE IMPERIALISTIC AND DISRESPECTFUL OF OTHER CULTURES!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (W+vEI)

55 "All this just so limousine liberals can have dirt-cheap domestic help. *shakes head*

Posted by: pookysgirl at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (XKZwp) "

Hey, give them more credit than that. It's also so that they can feel morally superior to the rubes while the policies they advocate for continue to make life miserable for America's native born working class. Don't you get that they're just BETTER than us? They care about people and stuff.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (oZ6kz)

56 As bad as Toxic Americanism is for the world, you'd think they'd want a wall to keep us in and warning signs telling everyone else to stay away.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (kqf/5)

57
I just want to say Bertram Cabot Jr is one of our most pithiest 'menters here at AoS.

I don't acknowledge it, but you make me laugh a lot in the threads.

Posted by: The Left at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (vk99r)

58 And the cuck crowed 3 times...



- - Kristol 1:2:3

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (/9p9e)


I seriously doubt the cuck could pull that off.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (QLvwG)

59 Uhh... really.. is this really any news to anyone?

I heard another Dem representative on the news at lunch..

"of course we want secure borders.. but Trump's wall is a non-starter.."

"of course we're ready to negotiate! but Trump's wall is a non-starter.."

It's like.. no one believes this bullshit, man!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (so+oy)

60
The next era of mad science by Yakub, inventor of the white man, patent pending.
Posted by: Someguy


The ought to make a movie about that guy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (aKsyK)

61 >>this works both ways..


This is your first train, isn't it?

Posted by: AOC at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (ph5oI)

62 Also, remember, style guide requires "the failing New York Times."

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (oZ6kz)

63 Manjoo? What about WOMANjoo! What about that, you toxic male!

Posted by: joncelli of the howling horde at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (RD7QR)

64 Oh heck EVERYONE is in favor of Open Borders but in a squishy, didn't think it through, politically expedient, emotional, feely sort of way.

As someone with libertarian tendencies who thought it through and what it would take decades ago, I find the spectacle spectacular. And incredibly stupid.

No one wants Open Borders... they just want to feel good about how loving and accepting they are.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (BD/yx)

65 There's a witheringly obvious moral, economic, strategic and cultural case for open borders, and we have a political opportunity to push it.

The fact that it's working so well in Europe?

Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (yAc+w)

66 Manjoo is just pissed he can't control birdspies, the weather or shape shift. Its obvious.

Posted by: Its just me at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (F2Gk+)

67 6
Manjoo. Man+Joo.

A name that should trigger Sarsour, Ilhan Omar and T-Labia like crazy, right?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (/9p9e)

"Half man, half Joo, he roams the night, seeking really good deals and protecting mankind. He is....MANJOO!"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (bcbK8)

68 Odds that Manjoo can pour a blueberry Slurpee without getting his pants wet?

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (2LelM)

69
You never see Manjoo and Manu Raju in the same room together...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (/9p9e)

70 As bad as Toxic Americanism is for the world, you'd think they'd want a wall to keep us in and warning signs telling everyone else to stay away.
Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 18, 2019 03:05 PM (kqf/5)
+++++++++++
No, they don't want that all. They want our money, while spitting at us and poking us in the eye.

It's called "hypocrisy" and it's a helluva drug.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (I2dne)

71
What an ass I am.

I'm going senile.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (vk99r)

72 My native-born American friends did not seem to me to warrant any more dignity than my South African ones; according to this nations founding documents, we were all created equal. Yet by mere accident of geography, some were given freedom, and others were denied it.
________________

Wow, there is so much idiocy in that piece it's almost hard to imagine that a sentient being wrote it.

Your South African friends are not being denied freedom because of geography, you stupid douche. They're being denied freedom because they allowed their government to take their freedom from them. That has nothing to do with Americans. We did not deprive your South African friends of their freedom, and we do not have any obligation to risk our lives or our treasure to secure their freedom, just as we have no obligation to invite them to come here and share in the freedoms that our generations of our ancestors fought and won for us.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (fqUgw)

73

Foreskin Manjuice? Oh I know him. One time at the Backdoor Club he... *giant Shepard's Crook pulls offstage*...

Posted by: Steve MAGA at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (n2qRY)

74 67 6
Manjoo. Man+Joo.

A name that should trigger Sarsour, Ilhan Omar and T-Labia like crazy, right?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (/9p9e)

"Half man, half Joo, he roams the night, seeking really good deals and protecting mankind. He is....MANJOO!"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (bcbK


Oy VEYYY!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (/9p9e)

75 Imagine being killed by someone who wandered across the place where your border used to be because you don't stop people.

We can install what I call a "Reverse Gortex" border, where these blessed warm friendly unknowns will flow into the US, but not back out because Canada and Mexico are certain to be far far more choosy about who they want coming in and possibly staying.
Although clearly Mexico will currently let anyone pass through as long as they promise not to stay.

But why should people who WALK across be pandered to, we should allow unrestricted driving traffic, and unrestricted air entry, and unrestricted sea entry as well!

Get rid of that international gate shit at the airports! All gates are effectively domestic! No more customs!
And we can let them bring their own cars! They can drive across the border, or they can offload them from container ships! It's going to be awesome!

Let all the other countries police our border from THEIR side!

Cuba did that during the Mariel boatlift, and it worked wonders for them!



Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (37IEG)

76 The fact that it's working so well in Europe?
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (yAc+w)
+++++++++++
I think that's called a "beachhead"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (I2dne)

77 It not that people born outside our borders have less natural rights, it's that protecting those rights is someone else's problem.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (xfb67)

78 63 Manjoo? What about WOMANjoo! What about that, you toxic male!

Posted by: joncelli of the howling horde at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (RD7QR)

Wymynjxx

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (h5Df3)

79 Carry over from last thread - something your dad should teach you: LIFE IS NOT FAIR!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (W+vEI)

------------------

My daughter heard this a lot growing up, as well as being told that while we may think she's special, once she exited the house no one out there was going to think so.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 18, 2019 03:08 PM (ffYR/)

80 67 6
Manjoo. Man+Joo.

A name that should trigger Sarsour, Ilhan Omar and T-Labia like crazy, right?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 02:59 PM (/9p9e)

"Half man, half Joo, he roams the night, seeking really good deals and protecting mankind. He is....MANJOO!"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (bcbK

=============

Half man, half Joo, half pig.

Manjoopig.

Super cereal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:08 PM (q8oeS)

81 76 The fact that it's working so well in Europe?
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:06 PM (yAc+w)
+++++++++++
I think that's called a "beachhead"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (I2dne)


Mirror Universe Operation Overlord.

More Muzzies means it's over for our Lord...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:08 PM (/9p9e)

82 How about if we send to Farhad Majoo's house al the MS-13 members, terrorists and other criminals coming over the border?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 18, 2019 03:08 PM (AllCR)

83 the "bottomless unfairness" that people who are American citizens are American citizens

I'd like to point out that there is no trademark on the Constitution. One *could* take it back to one's shithole and use it.

Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:08 PM (Bvcbh)

84 you know what, I'm fully behind this.

let the borders be wide open, let everyone be an American.

but in exchange, the United States constitution, AS WRITTEN and amended, is the governing law of the planet. 1st and 2nd amendment for every person on the planet. I can freely move to any country, take my guns and my insults, and they have to accept me. this works both ways..

oh and PDJT is president of the earth...

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (8D42x)

God emperor, and that's as cheap as I can make it.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:04 PM (h5Df3)

Acceptable. it's a good start until Baron...

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 18, 2019 03:09 PM (8D42x)

85 MANJOO???

+++

I thought it was like a DC antihero name, like with Man Bat

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 18, 2019 03:09 PM (adQJ2)

86
When did we stop giving these immigrants American names? This is probably when things went pear shape.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:03 PM (2LelM)

This was actually quite rare. The immigration officials had the passenger lists from the steamship line. If names got changed, it was likely the immigrant doing it. Immigration officials also spoke an average of three languages.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:09 PM (BWL+E)

87 77 It not that people born outside our borders have less natural rights, it's that protecting those rights is someone else's problem.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 18, 2019 03:07 PM (xfb67)

=============

"What the Framers actually meant when they forged a new country was that countries don't actually exist and it's the Federal government's job to provide medical care to every citizen of the world."
-9th Circuit

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:09 PM (q8oeS)

88 The underlying premise of the Declaration of Independence (we hold these truths to be self -evident, etc) is that it is underpinned by the willingness of the signers to commit "our lives, fortunes and sacred honor" to buy those "inalienable" rights.

I don't see Farhad Schmoo willing to do anything to secure those inalienable rights for himself or anyone else except get a plane ticket and jet over here from anywhere and say something like "I belong!".

I mean, as native born citizens, we do have undoubtedly someone in our past who actually fought to secure those rights.

Like two of my Great-great grandfathers that served in the Union Army in the Civil War
Like my Grandfather, that served in WWI
Like my Father that served in WWII

Yeah, that too Farhad.

You are welcome to come and actually work toward citizenship, and share our future, but just showing and demanding a piece of the action sounds like some spoiled brat at Chuck E. Cheese demanding a free pizza and an ice cream cone, just because he wants one.

Yeah, let's go with that and see where it ends up. This is witheringly stupid. Tell me again why people are busting down the door to get into Russia, let alone South Africa these days?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at January 18, 2019 03:09 PM (vcOmj)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:09 PM (BWL+E)

90 83 the "bottomless unfairness" that people who are American citizens are American citizens

I'd like to point out that there is no trademark on the Constitution. One *could* take it back to one's shithole and use it.
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:08 PM (Bvcbh)


Bottomless unfairness is as illogical as ass-less chaps.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:09 PM (/9p9e)

91

Free Foreskin Manjuice! Attica! Attica!

*thump*

slump, bleed

Posted by: Steve MAGA at January 18, 2019 03:09 PM (n2qRY)

92 Yeah, ManJoo is obviously what I like to call, a fucking idiot.
Have him give me a call, I'll tell him that in person.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (37IEG)

93

Another unfortunate sur name is Burdick.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (vk99r)

94 This is precisely what he globalists want. No more sovereign nations.

It's also precisely what people don't want. See the pushback on the EU in Europe as one example.

It is also exactly what Democrats want, but only speak of in dark corners or through their radical members like the Kook from Queens.

What do you think they mean when they say abolish ICE or they make protecting the border a demarcation line in their political dealings?

We haven't had any improvements in our immigration programs because Republican Cucks and Democrats have teamed up to do nothing and thereby undermine it.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (ci1ix)

95 Bottomless unfairness already? And it's not even happy hour!

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (oZ6kz)

96 "...not just by fighting his wall and calling for the abolishment of I.C.E. but also by making a proactive and affirmative case for the vast expansion of immigration."

Ooops... there it is. Right there.

The writer isn't calling for Open Borders AT ALL. Just vast expansion of immigration... not FREE immigration.

Picking and choosing, opening the door and closing it... just the same as it's ever been.

Oh, and didn't Trump advocate expanding immigration and Nancy had a fit about it?

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (BD/yx)

97 Farhad Manjoo was born in South Africa. I'm assuming he came here some other way than sneaking in over the border.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (AllCR)

98
If only we can hack into the NY Times comments section and deposit this here thread over there with no repercussions.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (/9p9e)

99
I don't see Farhad Schmoo willing to do anything to secure those inalienable rights for himself or anyone else except get a plane ticket and jet over here from anywhere and say something like "I belong!".

Boss Palp's canal needs zeks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (BWL+E)

100 "NY Times opinion writer Farhad Manjoo says it's time . . ."

I'm sorry. Is this Babylon Bee or the Onion again? Sorry, I've been distracted . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 18, 2019 03:11 PM (14URa)

101 And the cuck crowed 3 times...



- - Kristol 1:2:3

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:01 PM (/9p9e)


I seriously doubt the cuck could pull that off.
Posted by: Count de Monet


Large enough girth makes everyone squeal.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:11 PM (tHAoL)

102 My native-born American friends did not seem to me to warrant any more dignity than my South African ones

----

Are his South African friends the whites that the government plans to exterminate, or the Zulus planning to do the exterminating? Either way, you can see what this little piece of shit intends to happen to people like me.

Like a lot of other talk out of the Left lately, this is advocation of white genocide. It isn't about just making the demographic that keeps the lights on into a minority, it's about exterminating them after that's accomplished.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 18, 2019 03:11 PM (if9EY)

103 We demand the right to stay once we're past the border here!

#banthebanhammer

Posted by: United Federation of Trolls at January 18, 2019 03:11 PM (GrJA/)

104 100 "NY Times opinion writer Farhad Manjoo says it's time . . ."

I'm sorry. Is this Babylon Bee or the Onion again? Sorry, I've been distracted . . .
Posted by: Peaches at January 18, 2019 03:11 PM (14URa)

============

Babylon Bee had to scrap a story because this came out and made certain levels of comedy impossible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:11 PM (q8oeS)

105 No one is 'given' freedom. It is earned in blood and treasure. And each generation must learn to defend, protect, and cherish it, as explained by The Great Communicator.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (QLvwG)

106 In reverse, we should be able to tax all foreigners living abroad.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (37IEG)

107 Look you'd be pissed off all the time too if your parents named you Forehead Manjuice

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (oZ6kz)

108 "Farhad Manjoo"

That has to be a made up name.

Posted by: Chris M at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (eAZVt)

109 These fuckers really do want open warfare.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (FH4Qi)

110 Oh, he's of the South African Mangoo's. Good people.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (xfb67)

111 Yet by mere accident of geography, some were given freedom, and others were denied it.

+++

First, magic dirt doesn't exist
Second, our revolution is available for export and emulation. See France.
Third, freedom isn't given.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (adQJ2)

112 105 No one is 'given' freedom. It is earned in blood and treasure. And each generation must learn to defend, protect, and cherish it, as explained by The Great Communicator.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (QLvwG)

===========

The natural state of man is free, but to preserve it will require blood and treasure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (q8oeS)

113 >> When you see the immigration system up close, you're confronted with its bottomless unfairness. . . Yet by mere accident of geography, some were given freedom, and others were denied it.


Is it me, or did Ayn Rand capture this sentiment perfectly in Atlas Shrugged? "It's not fair that he gets to own a bank and I don't." Guy is given a bank, promptly runs it into the ground through incompetence. "It's not fair I wasn't allowed to succeed!"

Posted by: Lizzy at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (W+vEI)

114 you will taste MAN juice!

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (tZ4Qu)

115 106 In reverse, we should be able to tax all foreigners living abroad.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (37IEG)

I would tax Raquel Welch...though I have a feeling she'd tax me...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (bcbK8)

116 Something tells me the OP ed writer would be horrified if I countered with "minimal" background checks exactly as required of any one seeking to own a gun in New York city.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (TN1P5)

117 I'd like to point out that there is no trademark on the Constitution. One *could* take it back to one's shithole and use it.
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:08 PM (Bvcbh)
++++++++++
It's about the people, not the document - and certainly not the geography. Case in point: Liberia. When we founded that country, it included a carbon copy of our constitution. How's that working out for them?

It's culture, you bozos. And I don't want people from wholly incompatible cultures coming here to stay. I also don't want so many from compatible places that they can overrun our culture.

Ending chain migration, ending birthright citizenship (unless your parents are citizens, of course), blacklisting wholly incompatible countries (except possibly for those who will bring truly extraordinary potential benefit), installing quotas, and aggressively pushing assimilation are perfectly reasonable and not racist at all. Defending what's yours is allowed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (I2dne)

118
100 "NY Times opinion writer Farhad Manjoo says it's time . . ."

I'm sorry. Is this Babylon Bee or the Onion again? Sorry, I've been distracted . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 18, 2019 03:11 PM (14URa)

I didn't even notice that.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (h5Df3)

119

Oh Majoo, you've done it again!

Posted by: Forehead Magoo at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (aKsyK)

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Posted by: Cheribebe at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (fnWQo)

121
Imagine if they just stayed in the country of their birth and made that a better place to live.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (TAmPV)

122 One could consider the relative lack of pants around here bottomless.

Posted by: United Federation of Trolls at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (GrJA/)

123 This was actually quite rare. The immigration officials had the passenger lists from the steamship line. If names got changed, it was likely the immigrant doing it. Immigration officials also spoke an average of three languages.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

M'name is Michaelangelo Bonarodi

Immigration official: What kind of a moniker is that for an American? From now on, you're M.C. Boone!

(line from National Lampoon Hour, "The Immigrants: This week, the hillbillies!")

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (vcOmj)

124 Hanjar Fa Doo

Posted by: Anagrams at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (3iQ1J)

125 Make America A Shithole!



Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (3388M)

126 He has discovered the "bottomless unfairness" that people who are American citizens are American citizens and people who are not American citizens are equally not American citizens.

And this unfairness must be fixed by making every person in the world American.
...........

I am quite convinced these stupid open borders folks are always one of two classes:

1. Elites who would have more people to rule and vote for their socialist utopia and who are already rich and would not be affected.

2. Deluded lefties who live in their mom's basement, making roughly $10k per year from their demented ramblings on-line who would also not be affected economically by an influx of several million new people a year, like the rest of us would be.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (so+oy)

127 Another unfortunate sur name is Burdick.


We have a guy in our neighborhood named Dick Sweet. His name is listed in the neighborhood directory as Sweet, Dick.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (ptqGC)

128 Well they can then come here legally and kill rape and rob.

Posted by: torabora at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (Y274z)

129
In reverse, we should be able to tax all foreigners living abroad.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (37IEG)


IRS agents vs. Russian oligarchs. Should be fun to watch.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (BWL+E)

130 There are a ton of people at the March for Life on the EWTN network, which is broadcasting it live, with commentary.

Posted by: vivi at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (11H2y)

131 99
I don't see Farhad Schmoo willing to do anything to secure those inalienable rights for himself or anyone else except get a plane ticket and jet over here from anywhere and say something like "I belong!".

Boss Palp's canal needs zeks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (BWL+E)


Funny how they demand to "belong" to a place that is constantly described as the worst place on earth and the source of all evil for the past 243 years.

Fuck you, Manjoo. You're a goddam liar. You want in not to belong but to overthrow and destroy and punish.

Die in a fire. Somewhere else. Our air quality is bad enough in NYC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (/9p9e)

132 121
Imagine if they just stayed in the country of their birth and made that a better place to live.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (TAmPV)

============

That's a lot harder than going abroad and demanding that someone else cater to you in their house.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (q8oeS)

133 99
I don't see Farhad Schmoo willing to do anything to secure those inalienable rights for himself or anyone else except get a plane ticket and jet over here from anywhere and say something like "I belong!".

Boss Palp's canal needs zeks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:10 PM (BWL+E)

Truth

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (bcbK8)

134
I know it's racist (according to the Left not me) but the only response to this claptrap bullshit is a simple question:

Why Does The USA Want Or Need Any Of These People?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (vk99r)

135 ManJou! You idiot!

Posted by: Inspector Clousseau at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (adQJ2)

136

The faster we can destroy the white species, the better off we are.

That's what everyone thinks right? That's the zietgeist (nazi) that the Univerities promote through their whiteness studies pogroms, or programs...

It's high time we get rid of whites.


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (ikxxu)

137 Forehead Manjuice ? Twenty bucks, same as in town.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (kqf/5)

138 really, any results get you an equally stupid name for an Op-Ed writer.

Posted by: Anagrams at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (3iQ1J)

139 My native-born American friends did not seem to me to warrant any more dignity than my South African ones

Yeah, Starbucks isn't the best place to hang out.

Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (Bvcbh)

140 ++++++++++
It's about the people, not the document - and certainly not the geography. Case in point: Liberia. When we founded that country, it included a carbon copy of our constitution. How's that working out for them?

It's culture, you bozos. And I don't want people from wholly incompatible cultures coming here to stay. I also don't want so many from compatible places that they can overrun our culture.

Ending chain migration, ending birthright citizenship (unless your parents are citizens, of course), blacklisting wholly incompatible countries (except possibly for those who will bring truly extraordinary potential benefit), installing quotas, and aggressively pushing assimilation are perfectly reasonable and not racist at all. Defending what's yours is allowed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (I2dne)

They turned it into a replica American South, with tea and white mansions and plantations and a slave class of black people.

It should've been expected in retrospect.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (h5Df3)

141 We have a guy in our neighborhood named Dick Sweet. His name is listed in the neighborhood directory as Sweet, Dick.

Posted by: Jane D'oh


Sweet, Paolo Dick?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (tHAoL)

142
Adolphe Menjou called. He said change your fucking name or he'll come after you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (/9p9e)

143

The USA would be better off if we ended ALL immigration today. Much better off.

We don't need these people. We don't.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (vk99r)

144 American citizenship is not unfair too the rest of the world, Only a socialist tool would see it that way. Americans and America do not owe the world anything. Nothing at all. Nada. Zip. Nil. Zero. Nothing.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (0OmEj)

145
I never particularly cared for that idiom that 'good fences make good neighbors'. No, it's something else completely. Bad neighbors make fences necessary.

We have some really shitty neighbors to the south.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (jYje5)

146 141 We have a guy in our neighborhood named Dick Sweet. His name is listed in the neighborhood directory as Sweet, Dick.

Posted by: Jane D'oh


Sweet, Paolo Dick?
Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (tHAoL)

===========

Far too many of our conversations end up here.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (q8oeS)

147 "Free men aren't equal.
Equal men aren't free."

-- Jerry Pournelle

Posted by: United Federation of Trolls at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (GrJA/)

148 you want a better life than what you have in your homeland?

good on you: now make your country a better place to live.

you're welcome.

next problem?

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (pbYL9)

149 The faster we can destroy the white species, the better off we are.

That's what everyone thinks right? That's the zietgeist (nazi) that the Univerities promote through their whiteness studies pogroms, or programs...

It's high time we get rid of whites.


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere


Yet no one ever gets froggy enough to jump.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (tHAoL)

150 It really makes no sense to imort all of these tortilla vendors.

What of Lefse and Pita?

Should we not Love equally the purveyors of ALL the Flat Breads?

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (3iQ1J)

151 Sweet, Paolo Dick?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:14 PM (tHAoL)


He's doesn't resemble a Paolo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (ptqGC)

152 his is precisely what he globalists want. No more sovereign nations

+++

Correct. If you find yourself in need of a rough guide listen to Imagine once again

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (adQJ2)

153 I wonder if Manjoo can explain why over the entire course of mankind's existence it was only western Europeans that were able to escape slavery and serfdom. I'd really like Manjoo to take that fact on and write an opinion as to why only one people were responsible for modernity. What is the secret sauce for this breakthrough? I doubt it is the NYTs editorial board.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (2LelM)

154 How many white South African farmers will we offer asylum?

Posted by: Its just me at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (F2Gk+)

155 Interestingly, it looks the left's change from fascism to some form of 20th-century communism is now complete.

Our progressives were usually fascists - that is, non-international socialists (e.g., national socialists, though not necessarily Nazis. Mussolini was a non-Nazi fascist who wanted socialism for Italy). Now they're full on international socialists.

Global revolution, comrades!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (I2dne)

156
Far too many of our conversations end up here.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (q8oeS)

Seriously. I read the post and then scrolled to the last comment to start reading and it was about....dicks..

Posted by: IC at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (a0IVu)

157 Funny how so many of the "progressive" arguments rest on the assumption that all the other countries in the world are shithole countries.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (BD/yx)

158 I loved Mr. Manjoo as a kid. He thinks he's walking down the sidewalk, but its really a beam high in the air. He's talking to a fire hydrant. But it all somehow works out.

And the cane. Loved the little cane.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (kqf/5)

159 Opinion writer DamnedYankee says it's time someone kicked BicycleMan Juice out of the country.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (37IEG)

160 His name is both sexist and racist at the same time. Good thing he lives Far from the Hood.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (r+sAi)

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Posted by: Cheribebe at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (fnWQo)

-------------------

Thank you Cheri, I had not been told of that list. I will look it up.

I have an attorney ready to go, Feds just need to get off of it and issue their denial so he can get to work on it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (ffYR/)

162 It really makes no sense to imort all of these tortilla vendors.

What of Lefse and Pita?

Should we not Love equally the purveyors of ALL the Flat Breads?
Posted by: garrett



Naan! I say naan!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (tHAoL)

163 141 We have a guy in our neighborhood named Dick Sweet. His name is listed in the neighborhood directory as Sweet, Dick.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

Knew a Brit with the unfortunate name of Robert Sowell. When they called the roll in his class it was "R. Sowell" followed on by tittering and snickers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (/9p9e)

164 155 Interestingly, it looks the left's change from fascism to some form of 20th-century communism is now complete.

Our progressives were usually fascists - that is, non-international socialists (e.g., national socialists, though not necessarily Nazis. Mussolini was a non-Nazi fascist who wanted socialism for Italy). Now they're full on international socialists.

Global revolution, comrades!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (I2dne)

============

I consider the difference one of semantics.

They're both statists who wish to rule their fellow men with an iron something or other (fist, boot, whatever).

They're both deserving of scorn.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (q8oeS)

165 94 This is precisely what he globalists want. No more sovereign nations.
___________________

The U.N. recently passed some bullshit global migration compact. You won't be surprised to know what's in it: "migrants" get to live wherever they want, and we get to pay to support them.

F*ck the U.N., f*ck the NYT, and f*ck the globalists.

The U.S. belongs to its citizens, and nobody else.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (fqUgw)

166 "What's new, Mr. Manjoo?"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (bcbK8)

167 Who knew ?

Sen. Bob Casey rules out 2020 presidential bid

Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (QkjLD)

168
How many white South African farmers will we offer asylum?

Posted by: Its just me at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (F2Gk+)


Should be all of them. Hardworking bunch. And the young men.....the 'ettes would approve.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (ptqGC)

169 153
I wonder if Manjoo can explain why over the entire course of mankind's
existence it was only western Europeans that were able to escape slavery
and serfdom. I'd really like Manjoo to take that fact on and write an
opinion as to why only one people were responsible for modernity. What
is the secret sauce for this breakthrough? I doubt it is the NYTs
editorial board.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (2LelM)
Good muthafuckin' point there, Puddin. They never bother their nasty little heads with that one, do they?

Posted by: Peaches at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (14URa)

170 Step 1: "It's not fair that my being born outside of the US means I don't have the same rights as Americans. Let me in!"

Step 2: "It's not fair that your laws don't stop those bad people from mocking my god! It's not fair that your laws say I can't beat my wife, that I have to transport filthy dogs in my Uber car. You must change your laws to accommodate my human rights."


Step3: "Why is America becoming as big a sh#thole as the country I left?"

Posted by: Lizzy at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (W+vEI)

171 The idea of Americans being permitted to govern themselves in the best interests of themselves and their posterity?

Harrumph. Told you it would never last!

Posted by: Zombie King George III at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (DuAZ5)

172 American citizenship is not unfair too the rest of the world, Only a socialist tool would see it that way. Americans and America do not owe the world anything. Nothing at all. Nada. Zip. Nil. Zero. Nothing.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 18, 2019 03:15 PM (0OmEj)
++++++++++
Nyet, comrade. Liberty is a zero-sum game. For some to have it, others must not have it. Migration to areas that have it is the only way to equalize liberty across the planet.

By no one have any of it at all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (I2dne)

173 165
The U.N. recently passed some bullshit global migration compact. You won't be surprised to know what's in it: "migrants" get to live wherever they want, and we get to pay to support them.

F*ck the U.N., f*ck the NYT, and f*ck the globalists.

The U.S. belongs to its citizens, and nobody else.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (fqUgw)

===========

If Trump was ever looking for an excuse to cut ties with the UN and kick them out of New York, I think he has the perfect one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (q8oeS)

174 162 It really makes no sense to imort all of these tortilla vendors.

What of Lefse and Pita?

Should we not Love equally the purveyors of ALL the Flat Breads?
Posted by: garrett



Naan! I say naan!
Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (tHAoL)

All of the above.

Man, I love naan...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (bcbK8)

175 170 Step 1: "It's not fair that my being born outside of the US means I don't have the same rights as Americans. Let me in!"

Step 2: "It's not fair that your laws don't stop those bad people from mocking my god! It's not fair that your laws say I can't beat my wife, that I have to transport filthy dogs in my Uber car. You must change your laws to accommodate my human rights."


Step3: "Why is America becoming as big a sh#thole as the country I left?"
Posted by: Lizzy at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (W+vEI)

=============

"Yeah? Why is that?"
-John Cleese after mocking Christians and Olde England for decades

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (q8oeS)

176 Well, I feel much better now, knowing for sure we have an agent-provocateur in the NYT Editorial Board. Good work, dude.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 18, 2019 03:19 PM (9GXhn)

177 If Trump was ever looking for an excuse to cut ties with the UN and kick them out of New York, I think he has the perfect one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (q8oeS)


The day he does that, he will be guaranteed re-election.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:19 PM (ptqGC)

178 Open borders is in fact, horribly racist. It's the
theft of the best and brightest people of color from their countries of
origin. Which condemns the remaining majority to a life of squalor,
poverty and violence.



Open borders is a borderline act of war against whole nations full of non-white people.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (ijO9y)

---
if Mexico and Central America are losing their best and their brightest to the US, we REALLY need to build the wall.

because the ones i run into every day are mostly cerrotes.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 18, 2019 03:19 PM (pbYL9)

179 153 I wonder if Manjoo can explain why over the entire course of mankind's existence it was only western Europeans that were able to escape slavery and serfdom. I'd really like Manjoo to take that fact on and write an opinion as to why only one people were responsible for modernity. What is the secret sauce for this breakthrough? I doubt it is the NYTs editorial board.
___________________

Obviously the evil white man stole all the good ideas from the noble brown savages!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 18, 2019 03:19 PM (fqUgw)

180 Make America A Shithole!

Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM (3388M)
..........

Hmm. Makes sense. Then nobody will want to come here.
Problem solved!

Posted by: wth at January 18, 2019 03:19 PM (v0R5T)

181

He has discovered the "bottomless unfairness" that people who are
American citizens are American citizens and people who are not American
citizens are equally not American citizens.

And this unfairness must be fixed by making every person in the world American.



The right and proper way to do that is for the rest of the world to adopt our Constitution and the Principles in it, not to bring them all here. Abolish dictatorships and oppression worldwide (Cuba would be a good place to begin, IMHO). It won't be easy, but they'll discover the benefits and blessings of freedom for themselves and for their fellow countrymen.



Freedom is for everyone. Start demanding it from your government and don't take "No" for an answer.




Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 18, 2019 03:19 PM (HaL55)

182 Seriously, have there been any studies at to what the end state of this "Open borders" campaign will look like?

Not just in North America, but Europe and Asia and the Middle East?

How about from a law enforcement (jurisdiction) point of view, a taxation point of view and a sovereign immunity point of view?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 18, 2019 03:19 PM (RpM6k)

183 You want to come here?

Fine.

You owe us 242+ years in back taxes and penalties.

Pay up.

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (3iQ1J)

184 Shorter Manjoo


I want to choke out the American breadbasket and watch America wither like Zimbabwe.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (ymnmz)

185 The last time white people en masse moved from a place of origin it was called colonialism.

Posted by: iwuzhere at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (yUPCi)

186
Why Does The USA Want Or Need Any Of These People?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:13 PM


I know a second generation Nigerian. His parents became citizens before he was born. The entire family is church going Christians. His mom is a physician, the dad a professional. None of them has ever spent a day on the dole. They actually bring something to the country. Their knowledge of our laws and constitution surpasses anything that any soy-boy American graduate of either high school or college would know. They are open to reason and intelligent argument.

They are the lefts worst nightmare. Which is why the left wants the exact INVERSE of this family.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (jYje5)

187 There is so much deliberate vague language and conflation in that. I don't have time to parse it, but whoever wrote this is a slimy piece of filth.

If anyone reads Mr. Manjoo's statement, and isn't concerned about how problematic it is, you're a cretin.

And I'd just like to point out how this statement by Manjoo underscores why Men and Jews are so evil.

(kidding, I need to deflate the tension somehow)

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (/qEW2)

188 I consider the difference one of semantics.

They're both statists who wish to rule their fellow men with an iron something or other (fist, boot, whatever).

They're both deserving of scorn.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (q8oeS)
++++++++++
Oh yes. Absolutely. There are myriad technical differences, but only one real practical difference between fascism and communism (two between Nazism and communism): The communists are internationalists and the fascists are nationalists. That's about it. All of 'em are socialists - it's just "socialism for whom." (The Nazis were also fundamentally racists, not just nationalists - their answer was "Socialism for the Aryans, extermination of the rest")

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (I2dne)

189 No one is saying they want open borders. Democrats are just saying that the people that are actually tasked with the enforement of our immigration laws are Nazis and that the department needs to be shut down. So see they don't want open borders! They just don't want border enforced...

Posted by: buzzion at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (WaxcS)

190
With the Left, anything that strikes a normal person as insane today will be either mandatory or forbidden tomorrow.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (BWL+E)

191 The USA would be better off if we ended ALL immigration today. Much better off.

But that would be as catastrophic as this government shutdown has been!

Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (Pu/Kw)

192 They could always start a country in our image in their shithole. The Constitution is a public document. No secret.

Posted by: Anchovy at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (B3kya)

193 Who needs content when you have comments?

Posted by: torabora at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (Y274z)

194 On the plus side, NYC and the state of CA are going to give illegals free health care. So the illegals will flood those places.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (ptqGC)

195 183 You want to come here?

Fine.

You owe us 242+ years in back taxes and penalties.

Pay up.
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (3iQ1J)

===========

You must first prove your entrepreneurial spirit by building a successful business in your home country and run it for at least two decades.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (q8oeS)

196 175
"Yeah? Why is that?"
-John Cleese after mocking Christians and Olde England for decades
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (q8oeS)


Wow, he gets me nuts. And after blasting the US, conservatives, Trump and Judeo-Christianity he openly refuses to criticize the space-rock-pedophile-death-cultists because he knows they'll cut his head off.

John Cleese and all the rest, sadly, are miserable hypocritical turds of the worst kind.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (/9p9e)

197
Re: "Everesting"

This immidiately reminded me of how the Left ruined the occupation of being a Firefighter.

For the test to be a Firefighter, the candidate must carry a 160lb dummy up a flight of stairs and out of a burning building (a training structure). Or something like that.

So when "women" wanted to be "firefighters" could not perform this task, the Left demanded the test be changed to carrying an 80lb dummy out the building, twice. Or something like that.

Point is "Everesting" is total bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (vk99r)

198 191 The USA would be better off if we ended ALL immigration today. Much better off.

But that would be as catastrophic as this government shutdown has been!
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (Pu/Kw)

*puts finger alongside nose*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (bcbK8)

199

Manjoo Manjoo

Posted by: Mork from Ork at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (aKsyK)

200 If the Chinese invaded Egypt, what would that be called?

Posted by: iwuzhere at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (yUPCi)

201 Baaaaaah! Orange man baaaaaaaad!

Posted by: Manjoo's Love Goat at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (DuAZ5)

202 Not for any of Manjoo's reasons, but I agree the Dems should just come out with it. Do it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (r+sAi)

203 Can we at least limit means of migration to the most advance systems of propulsion the emigrant's culture has invented?

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (3iQ1J)

204 Manjoo is an Indian South African...de-naturalize and let the South Africans settle this

Posted by: CN at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (U7k5w)

205 Man, I love naan...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (bcbK
-----
And pickled limes.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (Hx3Yn)

206
I know a second generation Nigerian. His parents became citizens before he was born. The entire family is church going Christians. His mom is a physician, the dad a professional. None of them has ever spent a day on the dole.

Never ask African immigrants what they think of our homegrown variety.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (BWL+E)

207 Screw that fool. Anyone who thinks socialism is good can t think worth a damn anyway. So why would I give a damn for his opinions?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (wKcYr)

208 162 It really makes no sense to imort all of these tortilla vendors.
............

But think how cheap tortillas will be with all the competition!

Posted by: wth at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (v0R5T)

209 188 Oh yes. Absolutely. There are myriad technical differences, but only one real practical difference between fascism and communism (two between Nazism and communism): The communists are internationalists and the fascists are nationalists. That's about it. All of 'em are socialists - it's just "socialism for whom." (The Nazis were also fundamentally racists, not just nationalists - their answer was "Socialism for the Aryans, extermination of the rest")
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:20 PM (I2dne)

==========

And it's that last part, the racism, that made Fascism a bad thing in culture. Not their need to control or even dominate, but the fact that they killed Jews.

The rest of their worldview? Perfectly fine, apparently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (q8oeS)

210
He has discovered the "bottomless unfairness" that people who are American citizens are American citizens and people who are not American citizens are equally not American citizens.


So he is admitting that American culture is superior to any other culture in the world.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (TAmPV)

211 196 175
"Yeah? Why is that?"
-John Cleese after mocking Christians and Olde England for decades
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:18 PM (q8oeS)


Wow, he gets me nuts. And after blasting the US, conservatives, Trump and Judeo-Christianity he openly refuses to criticize the space-rock-pedophile-death-cultists because he knows they'll cut his head off.

John Cleese and all the rest, sadly, are miserable hypocritical turds of the worst kind.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (/9p9e)

The problem with Cleese is that he can see clearly how stupid the Left is.

But he HATES us.

Comedy genius but fuck him with an axe handle.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (bcbK8)

212

Everesting is like driving your car for 8000 miles and claiming your Magellan.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (vk99r)

213 I'm assuming Farhad Manjoo first tried this scam with Australia and they booted his ass .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 18, 2019 03:23 PM (QviAd)

214 Why not let the Russians vote in our elections then?

Posted by: iwuzhere at January 18, 2019 03:23 PM (yUPCi)

215 I suppose all these well to do leftists will be dropping the security of their gated communities, tearing-down the gates and pulling-off the doors of their stately mansions because, hey, if it's OK for the country as a whole it ought to be totes perfectly A-OK for their high-income zip-codes.

Right?

Posted by: DocJ at January 18, 2019 03:23 PM (9fXnJ)

216 >>> "bottomless unfairness" that people who are American citizens are
----------------

So, he's not an American? Why is he here?

Posted by: Billy Bare at January 18, 2019 03:23 PM (ePWRo)

217 The Left wants open borders till they get enough votes for permanently control. Then they will build a wall to keep us in.

Posted by: Flatville Bill at January 18, 2019 03:23 PM (rJN3l)

218 The reason that the government is complicit in the violation of the law they themselves wrote, implement and enforce HAS TO BE because they want it.

You'll never see Tax Sanctuary States, at least not for more than a microsecond.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 18, 2019 03:23 PM (dcu2m)

219 I remember having to learn 3 Milli Vanilli songs...just in time to them getting "outed" so the songs were learned for naught.

Bastards.

Posted by: Kitsapbass at January 18, 2019 03:23 PM (sGtp+)

220 The system assumes that people born outside our borders are less deserving of basic rights than those inside.

really I have been under the impression the last few years they had more rights.

rights to take prayer breaks.
rights to defend themselves from seals.
rights to actual FREE healthcare.

Posted by: willow at January 18, 2019 03:24 PM (zy5Ai)

221 If Trump was ever looking for an excuse to cut ties with the UN and kick them out of New York, I think he has the perfect one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

He is still angling to get that UN money for remodeling the building.
There was a hearing in 2005 (it's on YouTube) where Trump is testifying to the Senate over the whole thing. It's interesting and pretty funny, actually. Toward the end, Trump and Jeff Sessions are kidding around about the whole thing. So Trump and Sessions actually go back some years, and I think Jeff was a BIG disappointment to Donald as AG.

Sad!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at January 18, 2019 03:24 PM (vcOmj)

222 167 Who knew ?

Sen. Bob Casey rules out 2020 presidential bid
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2019 03:17 PM (QkjLD)

Yeah, that's a bit like Amy Schumer informing everybody that she's going to stop being fuckable.

Posted by: joncelli of the howling horde at January 18, 2019 03:24 PM (RD7QR)

223 And yes, of course most legal immigrants don't favor more illegal immigration. The left just doesn't care. They came here to get away from various statist shitholes - they last thing they want is to turn the USA into another one.


Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:24 PM (oZ6kz)

224 >> The system assumes that people born outside our borders are less deserving of basic rights than those inside.


How about you add me to your Bank and Credit Card accounts, Manjuice?

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (3iQ1J)

225 157
Funny how so many of the "progressive" arguments rest on the assumption
that all the other countries in the world are shithole countries.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at January 18, 2019 03:16 PM (BD/yx)


And the solution is to move them all to the US......but to a part that is far away from them.

What are we going to do with all the land in the empty shithole countries once we move everyone here? Can I haz the land?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (ymnmz)

226 He misses the old old country and wishes to restore some of their wonderful customs, like suttee, which now has to happen by accident in a kitchen fire when the goat to wife marriage exchange rate is lower than desired.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (37IEG)

227
And yes, of course most legal immigrants don't favor more illegal immigration.

Don't get Her Majesty - a native New Zealander - started on that subject.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (BWL+E)

228 CM, My condition fell on the compassionate allowance list, Being on the CA list only speeds the process it is not a guarantee of disability coverage. Line up a lawyer. I was represented by a company (allsup) paid for by CIGNA the insurance company on the hook for long term disability.

Horde, do yourselves a favor an get short term and long term disability coverage. Its cheap and will pay for itself should something happen.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (0OmEj)

229
Everesting is like driving your car for 8000 miles and claiming your Magellan.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter


Many long haul truckers have accomplished what Neil Armstrong did.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (aKsyK)

230
And it's that last part, the racism, that made Fascism a bad thing in culture. Not their need to control or even dominate, but the fact that they killed Jews.

The rest of their worldview? Perfectly fine, apparently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (q8oeS)

Commies are more equal opportunity and egalitarian in their slaughter.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (h5Df3)

231 Your betters will always be and they will always be better than you. Get used to it.

Posted by: John Cleese reels at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (ePWRo)

232 Hello Horde.

Yes, this is me in the prayer chain.

I am writing to ask for your help. To be clear, I have asked for and received help already. I wanted all to know that. Circumstances are such that I find myself needing ask another time.

-Calm Mentor is going through a very difficult time right now. He is at his last bit of money. Support is appreciated. Please pray that he gets a job.

https://www.gofundme.com/help-with-time-to-find-employment

The campaign tells the story, but this is my situation:

I am partially handicapped, with limited mobility and only 25% use of my strong right arm. Up until June, I was still able to drive for Uber, and did so for over a year. I was deactivated as a driver at that time.

My only family is a brother who I was helping financially while working. My "friends", I found, consisted of those from a marriage of 17 years which ended three years ago. I have been turned down for welfare benefits because, as reported, I made too much money this last year to qualify. I applied for SSDI, and am awaiting their first denial, as I'm told this is their standard practice.

While working, I had built up a small reserve of money, one that was used up recently to pay an oral surgeon to treat a badly abscessed tooth.

I have been everywhere in applying for jobs, and in the past 6 months have only gotten 3 days of good freelance work, and 5 days of temp work. I will find something, as failure is not an option. In the meantime, I am looking at homelessness very soon. This is the reason for my request. Anything you could do would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for listening, and I have put my email in my nic if anyone would like to contact me off of the board. I will post this once only per thread for today and tomorrow. Be well.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (ffYR/)

233

HELP! I'm being tortured at the NY Times!!

Posted by: Logic at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (rXie1)

234 219 I remember having to learn 3 Milli Vanilli songs...just in time to them getting "outed" so the songs were learned for naught.

Bastards.
Posted by: Kitsapbass at January 18, 2019 03:23 PM (sGtp+)

They're still good songs, even if Rob and Fab didn't sing them.

Most pop is fake.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (bcbK8)

235 So the British Empire is flat on its ass and Manjoo is looking for another empire to skate on.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (2LelM)

236 On the plus side, NYC and the state of CA are going to give illegals free health care. So the illegals will flood those places.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (ptqGC)
...........

Only when they're sick. We have only so many lawns need mowing.
Don't worry, we'll send them back to you after we treat them.

Posted by: wth at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (v0R5T)

237
Yeah, my Navigator has 112K miles on it. That's just like me driving to the Moon!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (vk99r)

238 Why not let the Russians vote in our elections then?
Posted by: iwuzhere


Oooh! Clever. Let's try that one out on Bob Mueller!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (vcOmj)

239 "Never ask African immigrants what they think of our homegrown variety.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (BWL+E) "

Most West Indian immigrants absolutely despise American blacks. They're a favorite group of Thomas Sowell to study because on average they well outperform natives.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (oZ6kz)

240 They are the lefts worst nightmare. Which is why the left wants the exact INVERSE of this family.

+++

I understand why you like them. But they ought to go back as well. Yes I know you said second generation. I would go further back than that.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (adQJ2)

241 And it's that last part, the racism, that made Fascism a bad thing in culture. Not their need to control or even dominate, but the fact that they killed Jews.

The rest of their worldview? Perfectly fine, apparently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (q8oeS)
++++++++
If you're on the Left, yes - sort of. Many leftists - *loved* the fascists at the beginning (and lots converted to it wholesale). It was a way to get socialism without the natural proletarian uprising (about which Marx was shockingly wrong) and without an internationalist (e.g., hard to coordinate) Leninist "vanguard of the proletariat." It was perfect.

That changed when Hitler invaded the USSR. Marxism and it's offspring Leninism were always the preferred form of socialism. Fascism, while acceptable, was never preferred.

In the eyes of the Left - especially the US Left - fascists became evil the moment they invaded the USSR, and not a moment before. Thus the 40+ year postwar effort to recast the fascists as conservatives. They committed the socialist equivalent of the Sin Against The Holy Ghost.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (I2dne)

242 230
And it's that last part, the racism, that made Fascism a bad thing in culture. Not their need to control or even dominate, but the fact that they killed Jews.

The rest of their worldview? Perfectly fine, apparently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:22 PM (q8oeS)

Commies are more equal opportunity and egalitarian in their slaughter.
Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:25 PM (h5Df3)

=============

And yet, flying a Soviet hammer and sickle doesn't get you cast out of polite society.

In fact, you can be Obama's media guy and have Soviet posters in your kitchen and all is just fine.

When I live in Rome, I would have to walk through protests from time to time. At every one I saw the Soviet flag. It was enraging.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (q8oeS)

243 Fuk me runnin!
That potty mouth willow is on the thread.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (wKcYr)

244 I propose that if all people are equal; and that makes all counties equal-- which is what the writer is saying, correct?

Then we should adopt an equal immigration.

Herefore: All immigration between the US and any nation in the world shall be equal-- for every US citizen who immigrates to another country, an equal number of persons shall be allowed to immigrate to the US from said country.

Let the writer give up his place in the US to a more deserving person in Nambia, or wherever

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (TN1P5)

245 Do these elitist nincompoop truly not realize there's a difference between legal and illegal immigration?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (zJmMh)

246

Dry Feet, Welfare Can't be Beat!


I like it when Foreskin Manjuice beats me, too!

Posted by: Steve MAGA at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (n2qRY)

247 235 So the British Empire is flat on its ass and Manjoo is looking for another empire to skate on.
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (2LelM)

=============

Isn't the open borders concept an argument FOR empire building?

"Borders don't exist. You want to live in America. Well, we'll bring America to you!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:28 PM (q8oeS)

248
Open borders is in fact, horribly racist. It's the
theft of the best and brightest people of color from their countries of
origin. Which condemns the remaining majority to a life of squalor,
poverty and violence.



Open borders is a borderline act of war against whole nations full of non-white people.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 18, 2019 03:02 PM (ijO9y)

---
if Mexico and Central America are losing their best and their brightest to the US, we REALLY need to build the wall.

because the ones i run into every day are mostly cerrotes.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 18, 2019 03:19 PM (pbYL9)






Actually, that's not really the way I think... mostly. But it's a pretty good argument to throw in the commies' faces.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 18, 2019 03:28 PM (veoSD)

249 Progressives love giving away shit that is not theirs to give away!

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 18, 2019 03:28 PM (JFO2v)

250 >>Never ask African immigrants what they think of our homegrown variety.

The most scathing description of Obama I ever heard was from a black South African cab driver. Some of the stuff he said would have gotten him banned here.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 18, 2019 03:28 PM (/tuJf)

251
And yes, of course most legal immigrants don't favor more illegal immigration.

I'd bet many illegal immigrants don't favor more illegal immigration.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 18, 2019 03:28 PM (TAmPV)

252 You must first prove your entrepreneurial spirit by building a successful business in your home country and run it for at least two decades.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM


The legal immigrants are some of the best and the brightest from the countries they come from. Believe it or not, becoming a legal US citizen through the immigration process is a rather lengthy and expensive proposition. Only people of means with spotless records and perfect health can accomplish it.

Of course, I think the number should be limited by an annual review by Congress. Perhaps less then 500,000. Depending on US birth rates.

But the truth of the matter is we're draining some borderline countries of their best people. That might pay negative dividends in the long run.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 18, 2019 03:28 PM (jYje5)

253 "I understand why you like them. But they ought to go back as well. Yes I know you said second generation. I would go further back than that.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 18, 2019 03:26 PM (adQJ2) "

So the Kennedys get to stay, but many of the Horde has to leave?? Where do I sign up!!

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:28 PM (oZ6kz)

254 pfft.

Posted by: willow at January 18, 2019 03:29 PM (zy5Ai)

255 Are Guy Benson and Ben Shapiro butt buddies?
It sure looks like it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 18, 2019 03:29 PM (pw+jk)

256 241 In the eyes of the Left - especially the US Left - fascists became evil the moment they invaded the USSR, and not a moment before. Thus the 40+ year postwar effort to recast the fascists as conservatives. They committed the socialist equivalent of the Sin Against The Holy Ghost.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (I2dne)

=============

An American hippie living in Rome called me a Nazi because I said that I wanted the government to be in charge of only roads and national defense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:29 PM (q8oeS)

257 I'm really tired of FOREIGNERS coming here and telling me what America is all about... who we are.

Sorry chuckles, my forefathers built the damn country you now want to take advantage of.

Piss off.

Posted by: Don Q at January 18, 2019 03:29 PM (NgKpN)

258 I assume dickwad Manjoo is naturalized

Posted by: CN at January 18, 2019 03:29 PM (U7k5w)

259 The system assumes that people born outside our borders are less deserving of basic rights than those inside.
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They probably are less deserving or they would have forced their governments to acknowledge their rights as our ancestors did.

In fact what our system assumes is what is plainly stated in our Declaration of Independence, that governments are formed among men for the protection of our God-given rights. Which is to say that government's *only* responsibility is the protection of the rights of the men that formed it.

Posted by: Methos at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (kOpft)

260 The last survey I saw sad about 70% want immigration of around 500k per year. The current legal is over 1 Million.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (JFO2v)

261 Seriously. I think it is unfair that I can't draft checks off this asshole's bank account.


How is that fair, Bro?

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (3iQ1J)

262 256 241 In the eyes of the Left - especially the US Left - fascists became evil the moment they invaded the USSR, and not a moment before. Thus the 40+ year postwar effort to recast the fascists as conservatives. They committed the socialist equivalent of the Sin Against The Holy Ghost.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (I2dne)

=============

An American hippie living in Rome called me a Nazi because I said that I wanted the government to be in charge of only roads and national defense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:29 PM (q8oeS)

Word meanings are hard.

I hope you punched him in the mouth.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (bcbK8)

263 the Kennedys get to stay, but many of the Horde has to leave?? Where do I sign up!!

++++

Correct.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (adQJ2)

264 260 The last survey I saw sad about 70% want immigration of around 500k per year. The current legal is over 1 Million.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (JFO2v)

============

"We'll get right on putting that proposal together."
-The People's chamber in Congress

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (q8oeS)

265 Don't read anything into the fact that "conservatives" such as Guy Benson are routinely rushing to White Knight the leftists and the leftist media.

Stop being h8rz, h8rz.

Posted by: ace at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (PbpT7)

266 I am here in Beijing today offering my editorial that it is immoral that China doesn't admit unlimited numbers of Africans, Indians, Muslims and Central Americans!

*disappears and is never heard from again*

Posted by: Manjoo at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (DuAZ5)

267 And yet, flying a Soviet hammer and sickle doesn't get you cast out of polite society.

In fact, you can be Obama's media guy and have Soviet posters in your kitchen and all is just fine.

When I live in Rome, I would have to walk through protests from time to time. At every one I saw the Soviet flag. It was enraging.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (q8oeS)
++++++++++
When I was in college, one of my classmates had one of those Soviet fur hats, complete with hammer and sickle. I found a small, brass swastika pin and bought it for him.

When I gave it to him, he got really angry and asked why the hell I thought he'd want it. I told him, "Since you wear the emblem of one socialist death machine, I figured you'd be interested in another."

He threw it at me (hard), stormed off, and never spoke a word to me again.

I'd be expelled if I did it today.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (I2dne)

268 250: I work with many Africans who detest Obama and see him as an Islamist

Posted by: CN at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (U7k5w)

269 He's Farhad Manjoo ... Farhad Manjoo
Tubby Flubby Cucky Globalist Puff

He's Farhad Manjoo ... Farhad Manjoo
Silly Willy Nilly old bear

Posted by: JayDub at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (hVHEm)

270 262
Word meanings are hard.

I hope you punched him in the mouth.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (bcbK

=============

I was young and dumb. I was still under the impression that Nazi's were on the right. I backed down like a little bitch.

It's one of the most shameful moments of my life.

It's my Jerk Store.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (q8oeS)

271 257 I'm really tired of FOREIGNERS coming here and telling me what America is all about... who we are.

Sorry chuckles, my forefathers built the damn country you now want to take advantage of.

Piss off.
Posted by: Don Q at January 18, 2019 03:29 PM (NgKpN)

"But your forefathers were immigrants once, so you have to let in anyone else who wants to come here" is their argument

Posted by: josephistan at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (Izzlo)

272 Things are being sorted out, aren't they?

Like goats on one hand and sheep on the other.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Globalist Griefs - Two for One - at The Outrage Outlet! at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (hLRSq)

273 He used to work for Slate.
That covers it I think.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (37IEG)

274 "Correct.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (adQJ2) "

Why stop there? Let's just give the country back to the Native Americans. I guess I'll take Helen Thomas's advice and go to Poland.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (oZ6kz)

275 If we have open borders for countries, why can't we have open borders for states?

For example, if I want to concealed carry in New York, why should they stop me? No borders.

If I want to go to Massachusetts to get welfare even though I am from New York, why should borders stop me?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (RpM6k)

276 >> The system assumes that people born outside our borders are less deserving of basic rights than those inside.


"the system" - what is that, exactly?
Our system of government that knows it only has responsibility for people inside it (i.e. our borders) and that people outside it are governed by . . . another "system?"

He'd be shrieking if "the system" got busy telling people outside of our borders how to live, how to treat it's citizens and so on. Not that we don't - many Americans can and do attempt to export our values and ideas -- and we are criticized for it as cultural (and white) supremacists.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (W+vEI)

277 An American hippie living in Rome called me a Nazi because I said that I wanted the government to be in charge of only roads and national defense.
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Anti-authoritarian = Nazi. Got it

*scribbles*

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (Hx3Yn)

278 "calling for the abolishment of I.C.E"

Nice that he called himself a liar.

he will not allow any background check. Only unfettered immigration. Anything else would be racist.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (Z04f8)

279 Wow, he gets me nuts. And after blasting the US, conservatives, Trump and Judeo-Christianity he openly refuses to criticize the space-rock-pedophile-death-cultists because he knows they'll cut his head off.

John Cleese and all the rest, sadly, are miserable hypocritical turds of the worst kind.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 18, 2019 03:21 PM (/9p9e)

Discussed in previous thread. He's a sheep that doesn't see the difference between the wolves and the sheep dogs.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (QviAd)

280 Did someone say Manjoose!!?

Posted by: Shep Smith at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (xqfqx)

281 I want a 10 year moratorium on immigration of all kinds. I don t owe those folks my country. Let them fix their home shithole for a change.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (wKcYr)

282 An American hippie living in Rome called me a Nazi because I said that I wanted the government to be in charge of only roads and national defense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:29 PM (q8oeS)
+++++++++++
The leftist recasting of the fascists into some kind of regressive uber-conservatives has been distressingly successful. They were socialists through and through, and the left has been able to wholly rewrite history for anyone who hasn't dug into hard - and many who have.

The true lifeblood of the left isn't hate, racism, theft or jealousy. It's lies. Lies run through their veins.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (I2dne)

283 265 Don't read anything into the fact that "conservatives" such as Guy Benson are routinely rushing to White Knight the leftists and the leftist media.

Stop being h8rz, h8rz.
Posted by: ace at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (PbpT7)

Wait, Guy Benson is even "" conservative?

I assumed he was a gay rights activist.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (bcbK8)

284 277 An American hippie living in Rome called me a Nazi because I said that I wanted the government to be in charge of only roads and national defense.
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Anti-authoritarian = Nazi. Got it

*scribbles*
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (Hx3Yn)

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What finally clicked for me about the nature of Nazi philosophy was actually (surprise) a movie.

Valkyrie (underrated), and there's a scene where Hitler is telling von Stauffenberg that all must be part of the state.

I don't know why it clicked for me then, but that's the moment it did.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:33 PM (XSSCs)

285 I work with many Africans who detest Obama and see him as an Islamist

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He is.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 18, 2019 03:33 PM (adQJ2)

286 Unfortunately, the elites' overall refusal to defend Western civilization and its native citizens plus elite relativism that all cultures are equal means that foreigners are persuaded that Americans in America are essentially those that "won the lottery". Thus, unfair to non-winners.

Posted by: whig at January 18, 2019 03:33 PM (Kvi3C)

287 "Wait, Guy Benson is even "" conservative?

I assumed he was a gay rights activist.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (bcbK "

I mean come on Mark, he is (or was) a writer for the most right-wing site on the net, Hot Air!

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:33 PM (oZ6kz)

288 I want to import sharia law so we can push NYT editors off rooftops.

Posted by: Regular joe at January 18, 2019 03:34 PM (7PllL)

289 Beer runs through my veins. Is that bad ?

Posted by: JayDub at January 18, 2019 03:34 PM (JODDm)

290 11

Let's get Ben Shapiro to debate Mr Manjoo!

Ben can point out where Manjoo is wrong!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:00 PM (vk99r)

Boyjoo vs. Manjoo!

Posted by: Insomniac at January 18, 2019 03:34 PM (MgmBg)

291 287 "Wait, Guy Benson is even "" conservative?

I assumed he was a gay rights activist.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:32 PM (bcbK "

I mean come on Mark, he is (or was) a writer for the most right-wing site on the net, Hot Air!
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:33 PM (oZ6kz)

Right. A gay rights activist.

What am I missing?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:34 PM (bcbK8)

292 Beer runs through my veins. Is that bad ?
Posted by: JayDub at January 18, 2019 03:34 PM (JODDm)
++++++++
Nah. Just watch out for the breathalyzer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:34 PM (I2dne)

293 Guy Benson is a very convincing animatronic but not quite across the uncanny valley.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (oZ6kz)

294 How many illegals live on Indian reservations or pueblos?

Posted by: Its just me at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (F2Gk+)

295
Boyjoo vs. Manjoo!

Posted by: Insomniac



Ha!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (vk99r)

296 I think it is only fair that a few hundred million Indians (dot, not feather) be allowed to come here so I can poop on the beach like they do at home.

So convenient.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (Z+IKu)

297 "Wait, Guy Benson is even "" conservative?"


He tries to play one at Townhall.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Globalist Griefs - Two for One - at The Outrage Outlet! at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (hLRSq)

298
Every legal immigrant I've spoken with is absolutely indignant about illegal immigrants. I don't know if they're taking that anger to the polling booth, but I hope so.

Trump drawing attention to this divide could be his best reelection strategy imaginable. Plus, the House is up for grabs again in 2020.

Nancy Pelosi should enjoy her every day and the perks it provides. They may not last.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (jYje5)

299
What finally clicked for me about the nature of Nazi philosophy was actually (surprise) a movie.

Valkyrie (underrated), and there's a scene where Hitler is telling von Stauffenberg that all must be part of the state.

I don't know why it clicked for me then, but that's the moment it did.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:33 PM (XSSCs)

Mussolini's "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" is a succint way to describe facism.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (h5Df3)

300 "245
Do these elitist nincompoop truly not realize there's a difference between legal and illegal immigration?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at January 18, 2019 03:27 PM (zJmMh)"
...
Of course they do. But that doesn't help paint you as a bigot, now does it?
Open borders means war, doesn't matter if it's a result of deliberate policy action or neglecting to enforce the law. If this is the path they're embarking on, then that is where we are going and there is *nothing* that is going to change that.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (eAshZ)

301 "But your forefathers were immigrants once, so you have to let in anyone else who wants to come here" is their argument
Posted by: josephistan at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (Izzlo)

---------------

This is where you can note the we had zero immigration from 1920-1965, so as to allow immigrants time to assimilate into the Country and become Americans fully.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 18, 2019 03:36 PM (ffYR/)

302 The New York Times will be shuttered by 2025. No newspapers. Only an online brand of reporting of correspondents for hire.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 18, 2019 03:36 PM (RpM6k)

303 299
What finally clicked for me about the nature of Nazi philosophy was actually (surprise) a movie.

Valkyrie (underrated), and there's a scene where Hitler is telling von Stauffenberg that all must be part of the state.

I don't know why it clicked for me then, but that's the moment it did.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:33 PM (XSSCs)

Mussolini's "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" is a succint way to describe facism.
Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (h5Df3)

Yep.

I can't recall where I heard that spelled out, it was either Jonah Goldberg or Razorfist, but it's a great rebuttal to Nazi = Right wing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:36 PM (bcbK8)

304 Mussolini's "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" is a succint way to describe facism.
Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (h5Df3)
+++++++++
Yup. Fascism is conservative like Bill Kristol and Ana Navarro are conservative.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (I2dne)

305 299 Mussolini's "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" is a succint way to describe facism.
Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:35 PM (h5Df3)

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But yeah, small government conservatives are EXACTLY the same.

"I want the government to stop making economic choices for me!"

[center]=[/center]

"The state must make all economic choices for all citizens!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (XSSCs)

306 Pro-Illegal Immigration, Pro-Baby Killing, Pro-BDS. You gotta just love where they stand.

Posted by: Bosk at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (9m9TT)

307 >>Mussolini's "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" is a succint way to describe facism.


That quote still gets read out loud at the Daily NYT 3 PM Circle Jerk.

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (3iQ1J)

308 The true lifeblood of the left isn't hate, racism, theft or jealousy. It's lies. Lies run through their veins.
---
I'm sure their father is proud of them.

Posted by: Methos at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (kOpft)

309 260 The last survey I saw sad about 70% want immigration of around 500k per year. The current legal is over 1 Million.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 18, 2019 03:30 PM (JFO2v)

And someone is telling us lies.

According to the Gov, we have 330 Million people here, with 13 to 14% foreign born.

Including everything (H1Bs, Greencards, refugees) it is at LEAST 1.5 million per year.

Over 30 years? That's 45 Million people

Now add it at LEAST 20 million Illegals.

That's 65 Million foreign born, the or close to 20% foreign born.

That's the highest percentage of foreign born America has ever had. You cannot assimilate 20% into your culture in a generation.

Posted by: Don Q at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (NgKpN)

310
"All the U.P. folk were fiercely American, as any rash doubter ruefully and swiftly found out - as all-American as, say, Rocco Purgatorio, the Italian, who had once broken up a memorable Liberty Bond rally in the Chippewa High School by abruptly getting up and waving a tiny flag and singing fervently: "Eef you doan lak you Unka Semmy, den go backa to da lan' w'ere you from - you - you son-a-beech!"

- Robert Travers, "Anatomy of a Murder"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (BWL+E)

311 the only "moral" case for open borders is the idea that these folks will get better welfare here than in whatever shithole they come from.

or better jobs, as in taking our jobs...see every blue collar small business killed by their hispanix rivals undercutting them with day laborers the last 20 years.

BZZT

the unspoken moral case is that america was once 90% white, which is a crime against humanity.

uh yeah, that's how countries work. they're filled with people who are in common.

The other moral to the leftist is the idea that America stops progress by being anti-commie so she needs to be destroyed and the only way to do that is to breed the real american awya

Posted by: Wizards! At the bottom of it all! at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (7J5t2)

312 301 "But your forefathers were immigrants once, so you have to let in anyone else who wants to come here" is their argument
Posted by: josephistan at January 18, 2019 03:31 PM (Izzlo)

---------------

This is where you can note the we had zero immigration from 1920-1965, so as to allow immigrants time to assimilate into the Country and become Americans fully.
Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 18, 2019 03:36 PM (ffYR/)

============

And it's why we don't blink at Italian names.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:37 PM (XSSCs)

313 Boyjoo vs. Manjoo!

Posted by: Insomniac

Booya !

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (QviAd)

314 Everything political comes down to two questions:
Who decided and Who pays.
And every leftist, like this ass thinks the answers are I decide and You pay...right up until some else decides and he has to pay, then he decides less government power is a good thing.

In Minneapolis, the Democrats have been welcoming Somali immigrants for years. Recently, a 20 year Democratic State Representative was primaried by a Somali immigrant. They are your supporters and friends only until they have enough backing to vote your asses out of office.

Posted by: JB1000 at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (16OL0)

315 It isn't an "accident of geography" --my ancestors founded this country, they fought in the American Revolution, the Battle of New Orleans, wW I, WW2, Korea and Vietnam for it.

Sorry his ancestors didn't care about making his shithole country of origin better for their posterity but that's not my fault --i owe nothing to him or anyone else who didn't sacrifice to build this country.

We never should have let this entitled jerkoff in.

Posted by: Venus at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (lZaEn)

316 127 We have a guy in our neighborhood named Dick Sweet. His name is listed in the neighborhood directory as Sweet, Dick.


I knew a girl named Kate Forney. In answer to the obvious question, yep she sure did!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (9GXhn)

317 298: I assume Manjoo and his family who came here via South Africa are here legally. He is stupid enough to believe that geography determines "rights". WTG Cornell! Another failed university

Posted by: CN at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (U7k5w)

318 Mussolini was the NYT Poster Boy for quite some time.

They were enamored with him.

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (3iQ1J)

319 ITS FUNNY BECAUSE NO ONE HAS FOUR FATHERS. THEY HAVE FOUR MEN WHO COULD BE THE FATHER ON MAURY POVICH, BUT NOT FOUR FATHERS.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (RpM6k)

320 Nancy Pelosi should enjoy her every day and the perks it provides. They may not last.
Posted by: Newest Nic


Air travel is always nice.


Bwahahaha!

Posted by: Donny two scoops at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (Z04f8)

321 Milli Vanilli sidebar links:

Oy vey. That was awful and best forgotten.

Posted by: Blame It On The Brain at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (8eVay)

322 Mussolini was the NYT Poster Boy for quite some time.

They were enamored with him.
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (3iQ1J

He was a fellow journalist after all.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (QviAd)

323 315 It isn't an "accident of geography" --my ancestors founded this country, they fought in the American Revolution, the Battle of New Orleans, wW I, WW2, Korea and Vietnam for it.

Sorry his ancestors didn't care about making his shithole country of origin better for their posterity but that's not my fault --i owe nothing to him or anyone else who didn't sacrifice to build this country.

We never should have let this entitled jerkoff in.
Posted by: Venus at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (lZaEn)

============

My family first came here in 1653.

That line fought in the North Carolina militia during the Revolution.

Another line fought in the Texas 7th Infantry in the Civil War.

If the sins of the father must fall on the sins of the son, then so shall the fruits of their labors.

My ancestors built this country.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (XSSCs)

324 Manjoo sure are retarded and your all sh*t's all f*cked up.

Posted by: Bosk at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (9m9TT)

325 Does this brain damaged editorialist think brown people from south of the border are too stupid to understand laws and the legal procedures? Seems racist to me.

Do they think this white can just wander across the northern border any time I like? Somehow I think it's only the southern border they want open.

To make myself perfectly clear, I'm not going to do that.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at January 18, 2019 03:40 PM (zJmMh)

326 319 ITS FUNNY BECAUSE NO ONE HAS FOUR FATHERS. THEY HAVE FOUR MEN WHO COULD BE THE FATHER ON MAURY POVICH, BUT NOT FOUR FATHERS.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (RpM6k)

==========

I read that as four feathers.

And I thought of movies.

Weird, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:40 PM (XSSCs)

327 As many have said - Globalists think globalism is a lot more than some trade deals. They want a global legal system, a global military, a global government. That means an end to national borders, national governments, and of course our constitution. They don't care if Americans lose their liberty, safety, and self determination.

That is not some stupid Alex Jones conspiracy anymore, it is realty. We are American citizens! We are not globalist serfs!

Posted by: William Eaton at January 18, 2019 03:40 PM (MuTTO)

328 322
Mussolini was the NYT Poster Boy for quite some time.



They were enamored with him.

Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2019 03:38 PM (3iQ1J



He was a fellow journalist after all.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (QviAd)
It's like he was their Paolo . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 18, 2019 03:41 PM (14URa)

329 >>>The system assumes that people born outside our borders are less deserving of basic rights than those inside.
--------


Each individual state should make that assumption.

Posted by: Billy Bare at January 18, 2019 03:41 PM (ePWRo)

330 "Accident of Geography".

Right.

My ancestors took huge risks 379 years ago to sail across the Atlantic to get here, fought the savages who lived here and carved a civilization out of the wilderness, created a government and ecomomic system unlike any ever seen on this planet, fought to save the world twice, and now protect the entire world's sea lanes and serve as the necessary and strong engine of the world's economy and the protector of peace for the globe.

That's the fucking "accident of geography" of My People, bitch. What the fuck have You contributed to the world?

Posted by: Sharkman at January 18, 2019 03:41 PM (BfOXk)

331 So, Nancy wanted to leave the country rather than attend the March for Women.

I still think they are going to announce that RBG is dead during the march tomorrow. She's mort, but they need to wait for maximum effect.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 18, 2019 03:41 PM (RpM6k)

332 Once again, a leftist's position is that wealth is inexaustible, that destroying of an advanced society is impossible (or at least a good in the cause of 'justice'), and that destroying the standard of living of the most advanced is a good if someone they approve of benefits.


Leftism, down to its very roots, is a destructive philosophy and process.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 18, 2019 03:42 PM (dcu2m)

333
He was a fellow journalist after all.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation


Stalin, too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:42 PM (BWL+E)

334 Look out! The Donks have been thinking!

Democrat Floats Canceling Super Bowl: 'Would Definitely Lead To The End Of The Government Shutdown'

-
I guess that'd mean repealing the Superbowl clause.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 18, 2019 03:42 PM (f9AnO)

335 They're actually talking about the Overton Window? Holy shit Trump has broken them.

Posted by: ... at January 18, 2019 03:42 PM (ghLtY)

336 If a billion people moved here, they would likely reject much of what made us blessed to be Americans. They'd vote for freebies in exchange for freedom.


Posted by: Mike at January 18, 2019 03:42 PM (+S3WW)

337 Look out! The Donks have been thinking!

Democrat Floats Canceling Super Bowl: 'Would Definitely Lead To The End Of The Government Shutdown'

-
I guess that'd mean repealing the Superbowl clause.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 18, 2019 03:42 PM (f9AnO)
+++++++++
So no PSAs during the Super Bowl, then? Will anyone notice?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2019 03:42 PM (I2dne)

338 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (XSSCs)

Damn, beat me by a few years, best guess is 1668.

But had a direct ancestor at Valley Forge.

Posted by: Don Q at January 18, 2019 03:43 PM (NgKpN)

339
I still think they are going to announce that RBG is dead during the march tomorrow. She's mort, but they need to wait for maximum effect.



They don't think they get to keep all those ribs they pledged, do they?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 18, 2019 03:43 PM (dcu2m)

340 334 Look out! The Donks have been thinking!

Democrat Floats Canceling Super Bowl: 'Would Definitely Lead To The End Of The Government Shutdown'

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I guess that'd mean repealing the Superbowl clause.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 18, 2019 03:42 PM (f9AnO)

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Well, considering the direction of NFL leadership recently, I could imagine Goodell cancelling out of solidarity.

Because he's a giant tool.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:43 PM (XSSCs)

341 still think they are going to announce that RBG is dead during the march tomorrow. She's mort, but they need to wait for maximum effect.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 18, 2019 03:41 PM (RpM6k)

They're waiting to see how the box office is doing on her movie. If it needs a boost , they will announce then.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 18, 2019 03:43 PM (QviAd)

342 338 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (XSSCs)

Damn, beat me by a few years, best guess is 1668.

But had a direct ancestor at Valley Forge.
Posted by: Don Q at January 18, 2019 03:43 PM (NgKpN)

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That's awesome.

I want to prove my lineage to the Revolutionists so that I can join the SAR, but I doubt I'll ever be able to.

John and his son Shadrack.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (XSSCs)

343 Posted by: Sharkman at January 18, 2019 03:41 PM (BfOXk)
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Good rant.

Posted by: Billy Bare at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (ePWRo)

344 I second the motion to cancel the Superbowl.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (dcu2m)

345

Holy cats, that would put President Trump in the position of The Man Who Saved The Super Bowl when he tells the Democrats to fuck off.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (vk99r)

346 I already cancelled the Super Bowl,

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 18, 2019 03:45 PM (QviAd)

347 "Look out! The Donks have been thinking!

Democrat Floats Canceling Super Bowl: 'Would Definitely Lead To The End Of The Government Shutdown'"

Well, yeah, because all Democrats would be in hiding after resigning their seats and the remaining Republicans would be too scared to do anything but what the Golden Scalp Weasel tells them to do.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Globalist Griefs - Two for One - at The Outrage Outlet! at January 18, 2019 03:45 PM (hLRSq)

348 Btw, that is why that musical Hamilton being a hit is such a disgrace. The left is always bitching about "cultural appropriation" yet lavish praise on a fantasy musical that pretends POC had *anything* to do with the philosophy upon which this country is founded is the height of hypocrisy.
Sorry your ancestors had nothing to do with western civilization, but that's why their countries are still shitholes. Stop trying to steal my history to Boost your self-esteem.

Posted by: Venus at January 18, 2019 03:45 PM (lZaEn)

349 344 I second the motion to cancel the Superbowl.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (dcu2m)

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It's not like I care about football.

I can't imagine a better way to further degrade the sport, though.

Maybe baseball can make its proper comeback as the national pastime and favorite sport.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:45 PM (XSSCs)

350 "Accident of Geography"


According to leftists, they (and they alone) create wonderful societies. They also believe in every alarmist idea about overpopulation, climate and resources.

By their standards, none of this makes sense. disparities are not accidental; it's because the Beautiful People haven't worked their magic in other lands.


And how dare he put the evil US above other lands?

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 18, 2019 03:45 PM (Z04f8)

351
You know, all these government agencies that are shut down. If they're that important, maybe - and I know this is ridiculous - they could be handled by some lower level of government. For example, I have heard of things called "states".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:45 PM (BWL+E)

352 I don't watch/like sportsball.

But football is NOT the government.

If that's changed, point me towards the law that says that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 18, 2019 03:46 PM (bcbK8)

353 The Soviets and Hitler were both for open borders ... sorta. They were in favor of forcibly invading across borders, and taking control. The Soviets post WW2 did it to US in more stealthy fashion, and the Dems/Globalists have continued with economic warfare ... massive bailouts for 2Big2Fail/Jail banks/hedgeFunds, and laws written by the oligarchs and FOR the oligarchs.


Now they have social media as their Trojan horse, to control/supervise our very thoughts and communications. The "borders" protecting our right to assemble (online) is being challenged ... and it is nearly impossible for conservatives to assemble on a college campus. (see Coulter/Berkeley and cops on the side of Antifa, plus Professor BikeLock almost murdering someone)

Posted by: illiniwek at January 18, 2019 03:46 PM (Cus5s)

354 So, Nancy wanted to leave the country rather than attend the March for Women.

I still think they are going to announce that RBG is dead during the march tomorrow. She's mort, but they need to wait for maximum effect.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot



I honestly think they are doing everything that they can to avoid announcing that she it mort.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2019 03:46 PM (tHAoL)

355 351
You know, all these government agencies that are shut down. If they're that important, maybe - and I know this is ridiculous - they could be handled by some lower level of government. For example, I have heard of things called "states".
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:45 PM (BWL+E)

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We can't have 50 different administrations looking into food safety! Each one focusing on the safety of food in a particular, well-defined area?

Are you crazy!!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:46 PM (XSSCs)

356 That's awesome.

I want to prove my lineage to the Revolutionists so that I can join the SAR, but I doubt I'll ever be able to.

John and his son Shadrack.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (XSSCs)

You'd have what, 1000 ancestors or so in that generation? Its quite possible.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:47 PM (h5Df3)

357 343
Posted by: Sharkman at January 18, 2019 03:41 PM (BfOXk)

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Good rant.

Posted by: Billy Bare at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (ePWRo)
Excellent rant.

Posted by: Peaches at January 18, 2019 03:47 PM (14URa)

358 "But had a direct ancestor at Valley Forge."

Shit

I had a direct ancestor at the Garden of Eden.

At least according to family lore and oral history.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 18, 2019 03:47 PM (cqNba)

359 Still no notice of the pending National Woman's March on the local media.

With what...18 hours to go?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 18, 2019 03:48 PM (cqNba)

360 356 That's awesome.

I want to prove my lineage to the Revolutionists so that I can join the SAR, but I doubt I'll ever be able to.

John and his son Shadrack.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (XSSCs)

You'd have what, 1000 ancestors or so in that generation? Its quite possible.
Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:47 PM (h5Df3)

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It's the actual proof that my dad is my dad, and his dad is his dad, and so on until we got to Shadrack.

That's hard, because the records before the middle of the 19th century get really spotty, and the SAR's demands for proof are quite high.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:48 PM (XSSCs)

361
You know, all these government agencies that are shut down. If they're that important, maybe - and I know this is ridiculous - they could be handled by some lower level of government. For example, I have heard of things called "states".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:45 PM


50 different state EPA's? I gotta put you on scroll over dude. That's crazy talk.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 18, 2019 03:48 PM (jYje5)

362 Milli Vanilli sidebar links:

Oy vey. That was awful and best forgotten.

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If you dig deep enough, you'll find Putin was behind Mi!li Vanilli.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 18, 2019 03:48 PM (f9AnO)

363 342 338 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:39 PM (XSSCs)

Damn, beat me by a few years, best guess is 1668.

But had a direct ancestor at Valley Forge.
Posted by: Don Q at January 18, 2019 03:43 PM (NgKpN)

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That's awesome.

I want to prove my lineage to the Revolutionists so that I can join the SAR, but I doubt I'll ever be able to.

John and his son Shadrack.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:44 PM (XSSCs)

Actually traced it back to Bordeaux in France... legend has it that there were 5 Brothers who fought for the Huegonaughts, lost, and had to flee France. Family sold their land and bought a Bar, that is actually still there (actually been there, they tell the story of the brothers, we didn't know that before I was in France).

They went to England, where the English didn't like them, so ended up in the new World.

Posted by: Don Q at January 18, 2019 03:48 PM (NgKpN)

364 We are a nation of states.
No other nation on this earth is a nation of states.

Posted by: Billy Bare at January 18, 2019 03:48 PM (ePWRo)

365 My mom and sister did the hard work to find out that they are eligible for the DAR, from both sides of the family. They didn't join though.

Posted by: Its just me at January 18, 2019 03:48 PM (F2Gk+)

366 It seems to this guy is arguing the America is great and the rest of the sucks, but that can't be right as I have heard many libs claim that all cultures/nations are equal.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (p0nVR)

367 Really, if you people hate the elites so much, shouldn't you be in favor of importing into the United States the entire muslim population of the Middle East?

That would lower the elite quotient considerably and benefit you enormously. I'm just looking after your interests here.

Posted by: Cap'n Bill Kristol at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (DuAZ5)

368 Look out! The Donks have been thinking!



Democrat Floats Canceling Super Bowl: 'Would Definitely Lead To The End Of The Government Shutdown'


I don't think they've thought this through. Do they realize that the majority of residents of Fulton County are black? And the GA NAACP is planning to use the Super Bowl to promote destroying any and all Confederate monuments in the state?

*ponders* Actually, I approve.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (ptqGC)

369 OT Conservative Treehouse commenter reporting all of Pelosi's children and grandchildren were booked on the flight-a total of 7 Congresspeople and their family members, So WHY are we paying for their vacation from Taxpayer funds?!!. This is an abuse!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (AllCR)

370 If you have any European ancestry(as most US blacks so for instance) you're almost certainly a descendant of Charlemagne.

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (h5Df3)

371
Sorry, I denounce myself.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (BWL+E)

372 365 My mom and sister did the hard work to find out that they are eligible for the DAR, from both sides of the family. They didn't join though.
Posted by: Its just me at January 18, 2019 03:48 PM (F2Gk+)

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That is just sad.

I can understand keeping away from the DoC, but the DAR?

Damn, you join that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (XSSCs)

373 330
"Accident of Geography".



Right.



My ancestors took huge risks 379 years ago to sail across the
Atlantic to get here, fought the savages who lived here and carved a
civilization out of the wilderness, created a government and ecomomic
system unlike any ever seen on this planet, fought to save the world
twice, and now protect the entire world's sea lanes and serve as the
necessary and strong engine of the world's economy and the protector of
peace for the globe.



That's the fucking "accident of geography" of My People, bitch. What the fuck have You contributed to the world?

Posted by: Sharkman at January 18, 2019 03:41 PM (BfOXk)


And manjoo in his wisdom can wise correct these "accidents" witha wave of his magic want and pick up all the Shitholiands and whisk them to a place 3500 miles away form him.

I would argue that aa accident of geography needs to be rectified in that they all are put up in his house.

Why do none of these lefty turds go to shitholeistan and agitate for a working constitution and civil liberites laws where the problem is?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 18, 2019 03:50 PM (ymnmz)

374 Heaven forfend that politicians set out their actual beliefs!

That's Trump's greatest crime, after all. He refuses to play the game of say one thing and do another. He ran on doing x y and z and he's trying to do x y and z.

This cannot be allowed to stand.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 18, 2019 03:50 PM (GbPPJ)

375 >>We are a nation of states.
No other nation on this earth is a nation of states.

Australia.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 18, 2019 03:50 PM (/tuJf)

376
I had a direct ancestor at the Garden of Eden.

At least according to family lore and oral history.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
_____________________

My notes say your are only 1/1024th.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at January 18, 2019 03:50 PM (GEhPL)

377 375 >>We are a nation of states.
No other nation on this earth is a nation of states.

Australia.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 18, 2019 03:50 PM (/tuJf)

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Objection:

They actually work to control their border.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (XSSCs)

378 369
OT Conservative Treehouse commenter reporting all of Pelosi's children
and grandchildren were booked on the flight-a total of 7 Congresspeople
and their family members, So WHY are we paying for their vacation from
Taxpayer funds?!!. This is an abuse!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (AllCR)
Great catch, Fen. And not at all surprising. Because, after all, what is the real purpose of the USAF? Hint: not just bus transport.

Posted by: Peaches at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (14URa)

379 If we don't have borders, can we force our laws on Mexico and Canada?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (h1jJh)

380
No other nation on this earth is a nation of states.

Australia.


Germany.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (BWL+E)

381 The United States of Mexico

That is the actual, official, name of Mexico.

Is the relationship of their States like ours? Dunno.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (9GXhn)

382 Manjoo and his fellow travellers may be moving the Overton Window, but not in the direction they think.

Posted by: PabloD at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (IEWxR)

383 379 If we don't have borders, can we force our laws on Mexico and Canada?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (h1jJh)

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It's seriously an argument FOR imperialism.

"Okay, there are no borders. So, I'm going to send troops into Mexico and make them do what I want since sovereignty doesn't mean anything."
-Trump

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (XSSCs)

384 James, the SAR I guess huh?

Posted by: Its just me at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (F2Gk+)

385
nood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (vk99r)

386
My family traces to some region that was either France or Germany, depending on the year. Even some province in the region with my rather obscure last name.

Like I said, some of the best and brightest came to this country and founded it. Within limits, no reason that can't continue. Depending on US birth rates.

But there's the front door to entrance. And the back door. Anyone coming in the back door, or through the window gets the hook.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (jYje5)

387 OT Conservative Treehouse commenter reporting all
of Pelosi's children and grandchildren were booked on the flight-a total
of 7 Congresspeople and their family members, So WHY are we paying for
their vacation from Taxpayer funds?!!. This is an abuse!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (AllCR)


They were going to take their family members to A-stan? I've heard it's a lovely vacation spot, though.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (ptqGC)

388 Continuing the theme of a "trust society" from previous threads....

A trust society needs two things to exist:

A) Trust (duh)
B) Wealth (perhaps not duh)

Assumed trust among strangers is only be obtained in a society where the cost/pain of not having the thing you wish to steal is less than the cost/pain of knowing you are a social transgressor. More trust begets more wealth (collectively) as fewer resources are spend on security and defensive measures. More wealth, in turn, begets more trust, as everyone has more "skin in the game", and fewer people have enough desperation to violate social mores.

A Republic can really only exist in its true form in just such a strong, stable trust society. Just as we can breathe easy knowing our neighbor is almost certainly not trying to rob us or murder us, in the same manner we can allow the "other team" to win once in a while, disliking it, but knowing that they are not actively seeking our destruction. They may suck, they may be wrong, but at least there's a small glimmer of good faith in there.

Now observe the general erosion of the trust society by the social policies and general social "engineering" of the progressive left over the past decades. Nearly *every* single posture or maneuver the left makes is designed to erode the trust society. Or, at best, to replace the stability of the trust/wealth cycle with the illusory stability of the master/slave relationship between citizen and state.

This ties in directly with immigration policy. An immigrant, in order to be successful as an American, must be willing to be a part of that trust society.

If your first action upon entering the country, your first position, your first stance in regard to The American Polity, is to say "F*ck your rules, I'm going to do as I please" out of greed, laziness, stupidity, desperation, or some combination of them all, then you have fundamentally proven yourself unsuited to and undeserving of citizenship (or even residency) in a trust society. Not just America. *Any* trust society.

It is THIS more than any other reason why immigration policy is so vital to get right, and why it curdles my blood and frazzles my synapses to hear blase pseudo-intellectuals gabble on about "liberty" and "freedom" with respect to free, unrestricted, unmonitored migration.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (Ct55T)

389 You would think that the idea of another 200 million or so residents in the US would set the environmentalists' teeth on edge. But then you would also think that importing a 100 million new underclass residents to get welfare would bother the free marketers too.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (8Wq0q)

390 381 The United States of Mexico

That is the actual, official, name of Mexico.

Is the relationship of their States like ours? Dunno.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (9GXhn)

That's my response to people who complain about us calling ourselves Americans. We aren't the only United States so what else can we be called?

Posted by: Someguy at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (h5Df3)

391 384 James, the SAR I guess huh?
Posted by: Its just me at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (F2Gk+)

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For me, yeah, but your female relatives? I don't think the SAR will let them in.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (XSSCs)

392 So I looked up Farhad Manjoo. According to Wiki, he was born in South Africa in 1978 to parents with Indian heritage. When he was 8, they emigrated to southern CA and he grew up there, then graduated from Cornell.

No information as to whether he is a permanent resident or citizen. Likely a permanent resident.


He has worked for Slate, Salon, Wired News and now the NYT. His last article for Slate , he advocated men wearing makeup.


Another one of those first generation quasi Americans who don't remember what they left, and hate where they went. Marinated in an Ivy league journalism school hatred of all things American.


And so you get his brilliant piece on immigration.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 18, 2019 03:53 PM (bLfL5)

393

Cancel the Superbowel? Blacks rampage and riot?

*crosses fingers*

Oooo I hope they don't rape me! my god, getting held down while huge sweaty black men penetrate me over and over...

I'm all verklempt!

Posted by: Steve MAGA at January 18, 2019 03:53 PM (n2qRY)

394 >>They actually work to control their border.

They've had a real problem with Papua New Guiana. The ocean helps.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 18, 2019 03:53 PM (/tuJf)

395
They were going to take their family members to A-stan? I've heard it's a lovely vacation spot, though.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 18, 2019 03:52 PM (ptqGC)


Nasty men with bang sticks there to protect them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:53 PM (BWL+E)

396 The first of my clan to arrive in Colonial Virginia in the early 1750s did so only after being kidnapped en route and taken to the West Indies until others of the clan paid ransom. His sons fought in the Revolution as artillerymen. One was at Valley Forge.


Since then nearly all of my direct ancestors of my namesake served in some capacity, my grandfather being an engineer/machinist for Boeing during WWII.


So I get a bit hot under the collar with all that accident of geography bullshit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 18, 2019 03:54 PM (xPJvm)

397
Le Nood est arrive.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:55 PM (BWL+E)

398 My ancestors came from Hudson Wisconsin, at least that's what my grandfather told me. More likely Ireland and Austria in the 1850's. One of them just in time to get in on the civil war.

Posted by: free tibet at January 18, 2019 03:55 PM (nIvDu)

399 "378
369

OT Conservative Treehouse commenter reporting all of Pelosi's children

and grandchildren were booked on the flight-a total of 7 Congresspeople

and their family members, So WHY are we paying for their vacation from

Taxpayer funds?!!. This is an abuse!!



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 18, 2019 03:49 PM (AllCR)
Great
catch, Fen. And not at all surprising. Because, after all, what is the
real purpose of the USAF? Hint: not just bus transport.


Posted by: Peaches at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (14URa)"
...
Let's not forget that Pelosi usually blows through about $1-2k per *week* on travel food and booze whenever she has the gavel.
She's been using the .gov to fly her family around for decades.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at January 18, 2019 03:55 PM (eAshZ)

400 " direct ancestor at Valley Forge"

it is cool to be able to trace that back.


if every generation produced four kids per kid (there used to be big families) ... and that was 20 generations back, he would have about one trillion great (to the 20th) grandkids.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 18, 2019 03:57 PM (Cus5s)

401 Still no notice of the pending National Woman's March on the local media.

With what...18 hours to go?

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Didja see this. Sorry, what? Jewish Women's March official slams 'white Christians' like Meghan McCain for ... fighting anti-Semitism.

"Hey Jewish fam why are we not going hard rage on Meghan McCain for using us to bolster the 52%?

SHE USED OUR PAIN to place white Christian Trump-supporting racist Nationalist women as being victimised here?

Are you kidding me?"

Meanwhile,

The embattled Women's March co-President fails to affirm Israel's right to exist, AFTER refuting charges of anti-Semitism on @FiringLineShow tonight.

In an interview, @TamikaDMallory asked if Israel has the right to exist.
"The Palestinians are native to their lands"
And the Jews?
"Well I'm not Jewish"
But you're not Palestinian either
"I'm speaking about people who are brutally oppressed... "

-
There you have it. The problem with the Jews is they haven't been oppressed enough.

https://bit.ly/2sDnlw1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 18, 2019 03:59 PM (f9AnO)

402 93 people booked on that flight but they threw in a little trip to see the troops and visit NATO to make it seen legit. Nice racket if you can get it!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 18, 2019 04:00 PM (AllCR)

403 No other nation on this earth is a nation of states.
-------------------------------
Australia.

Germany.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (BWL+E)

The United States of Mexico .

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 18, 2019 03:51 PM (9GXhn)
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Come to the HQ and learn.

Posted by: Billy Bare at January 18, 2019 04:01 PM (ePWRo)

404 OT Conservative Treehouse commenter reporting all of Pelosi's children and grandchildren were booked on the flight-a total of 7 Congresspeople and their family members

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They'd need those extra guns if it looked like they were going to be overrun.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 18, 2019 04:03 PM (f9AnO)

405
Whenever I have a get together with my kids and grandkids, Afghanistan is always at the top of our vacation destination list.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 18, 2019 04:03 PM (jYje5)

406 Nan was gonna drop all the kids in Davos or whatever, continue with the other Donkies to a quickie stop in the Stan, then back to Davos.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 18, 2019 04:03 PM (9GXhn)

407 93 people booked on that flight but they threw in a little trip to see the troops and visit NATO to make it seen legit. Nice racket if you can get it!

A group of us were taken to a restaurant/bar once by a salesman. He said, 'First thing, do you still like our product?' We said 'Yeah, sure.' He said 'Okay, business meeting concluded. This goes on my expense account. Drink up!'

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 18, 2019 04:05 PM (8Wq0q)

408 In most of history, the population was exploited by their elite class, and the wealth was held by a few. Low income people suffered.


This was normal.


Then, through a combination of events, some white men got together and created the US Constitution, after writing their Declaration of Independence from one of said elite class that had been exploiting them.


The Constitution is unique for many reasons, most of those here readily understand.


The Constitution has been attacked now for centuries. Be it war from other countries, a split in beliefs that caused a Civil War, or a World War, where the choice was fight or be obliterated, the Constitution and it's believers always stood strong.


But now, there is a different war, it is the war of confusion and lies. Massive lies, co-ordinated daily, and the population is smothered with them. Some people are succumbing to the lies, and start doubting their own sanity. Because WHY would so many seemingly successful people on TV pound and pound and pound this same, unproven information at us?


They seem successful, but they are mostly highly paid trolls. Paid by those who HATE the Constitution, hate common people, and most importantly, want to keep their elite status at the expense of anyone else who dares want any of their resources. These payers include not only hard core Leftists, but CofC goons like the Coch Brothers, who wrap their rich azzes in the Flag, while doing their best for wide-open borders. Profits require backs, lots of pliable backs. Open borders, unlimited H-1B's and H-2B's, that's what they are all about.


The only conclusion an aware, independent person can conclude is that we are already AT WAR with the enemies of our Constitution, and it follows, at war with those that believe in the Constitution. It is the most dangerous, because it is silent and sneaky. It's coming from manipulating kid's understanding of both history and reality. Rich pretty people lying to us about the reported news, and more importantly, the news that is ignored or censored. And the examples are many.


Not all of our enemies dislike the Constitution! The most effective soldiers are not only the George Soros types, and those shills that take his money and form "non-profits" that are only created to undermine the Constitution. No, they are the Sergeants, the Capos. The real soldiers? The masses of uneducated, willfully stupid Americans.


You see these stupid Americans everywhere. They are seen on late night shows and comedy routines, making stupid non-answers to civics questions, and then laughing at the stupid, because it is funny. Maybe funny in the moment, but in the aggregate, it is an attack. An attack on knowledge means that person is malleable and can be changed to think the Constitution is old and stale, and needs to be changed. Without any actual data. Why are we laughing anyway? Because they are actually proud of being stupid!


If you think I'm wrong, just look at Robert Francis ororKe, and Sandy from the Bronx. Both are saying exactly this! The Constitution is stale, change it.

Umm, change exactly what? What passages or Amendments should be changed? Answer: who cares! Because stupid is the new America. Many schools, especially inner-city that have horrible atmospheres for learning, are a prime source. They don't teach facts, they teach feelings instead. Feelings = Victimology.

And feelings lead to stupid people like Sandy and Robert Francis looking into the camera and telling you that your Constitution needs changing, well, BECAUSE.

So the Constitution, the document that took the ideas of the Magna Carta and made them a country of laws, not men, is now under attack like never before. Not from foreign powers, but from inside. Not from detailed discussions, but from rampant stupidity and ignorance of facts and history.

People here at AoS understand responsibility, they understand that a plan, combined with hard work, usually means a level of success. Not any more. To the "new" world, it is class envy and class division now. Which, by the way, is inherently un-Constitutional. Try telling that to Sandy or RFo'K. Or their ignorant followers.


No, as others say, I don't see voting at the way we get out of this.

Oh, and happy Friday.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 18, 2019 04:21 PM (sy5kK)

409

I have no intention of allowing this country to become The Disunited States of Anywhere.


I'll protest, march, vote--whatever to keep us ONE united country.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 18, 2019 04:38 PM (S/hVx)

410 If you are all for Open Borders and a Disarmed American Public then you should move to another nation and live there

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 18, 2019 04:42 PM (wGqjj)

411 We are NOT created equal.


Any woman with children knows this instinctively.

Men? Well, their interest is primarily based upon themselves, by nature.

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at January 18, 2019 04:58 PM (xZjSg)

412 Obviously there weren't 50 votes in the previous Senate or the Wall would have been done already. Or Mitch rolled the President. Or both.

In any case, there should have been a vote so voters would know who was who. We might have peeled off a Democrat or two to make up for Flake and Co., but as I said, Mitch made sure there was no vote taken.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 18, 2019 05:00 PM (Ndje9)

413 The problem with open borders is that the traffic only moves one way. At least this idiot acknowledges that things must be awfully good for the brown people of the world in this country since tens of millions of them want to crash our border. How he squares that with his belief that the country was founded by bigots and racists and is the greatest threat on the planet to anyone who isn't a straight white male, I can't imagine.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at January 18, 2019 05:08 PM (zmIJL)

414 "I have, like, a dozen brown friends who are great people. Therefore the entire country must take in tens of millions of non-citizens regardless of the consequences."

He's not providing any arguments to support open borders beyond his experiences with friends. How retarded is that?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at January 18, 2019 05:26 PM (zmIJL)

415 I wonder what 'faith tradition' Farhad Manjoo adheres to?

Posted by: aelfheld at January 18, 2019 05:55 PM (IxDhF)

416 Not Americans are Not Americans because they live in other countries that are not part of America.

Say, it occurs to me, that if Not Americans want to become American in overwhelming numbers, then why don't they simple get rid of their shitty Not American government, and petition to becomes a state? They could also adopt our economic system, culture, values, and our constitution. Then they would have everything we have, and wouldn't have to leave where they are, Not America, to come to America.

Funny how that is never an option - make these countries more like America, instead of abandoning countries to come to America.

If you become enough like America, I'm sure we would be more than happy to formalize the process.

Posted by: Progressive logic at January 18, 2019 06:06 PM (AJj50)

417 Walter Ulbricht announced on June 15, 1961 that "no one intends to build a wall". Out of nowhere. Less than two months later...

The political class and their acolytes, who are VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY UPSET that people do in fact show passports at the border at ports of entry, say, one way or another "no one wants open borders" while remaining upset, as noted above, and wants agencies like ICE, who enforce immigration laws, abolished.

They need to just admit that while, say, crossing into Canada and being hassled by CBSA does not bother them at all, it does bother them that one can't cross into the United States and feel LESS hassle than one feels when crossing county lines.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at January 18, 2019 07:11 PM (v/CZU)

418 The natural state of man is free, but to preserve it will require blood and treasure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at January 18, 2019 03:12 PM (q8oeS)

Libertarians vehemently disagree. Freedom exists for the asking and need not be defended or earned.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at January 18, 2019 07:16 PM (v/CZU)

419 GIVEN? We fucking fought and died for our freedoms, more than once.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm, but I got a head of steam up ...

>Men? Well, their interest is primarily based upon themselves, by nature.

Yeah that's why men will will work themselves into an early grave so their kids can have a better life, run into a burning house to to get their wife and children out, or put themselves between an attacker and their family.

What utter fucking bullshit. All. of. it.



Posted by: Shanks for the memory at January 18, 2019 09:20 PM (TdCQk)

420 the dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States and yet lands only in Europe...
Not anymore now fascism along with lots of other shit will be landing in the U.S.

Posted by: Tom Wolfe at January 18, 2019 10:32 PM (Dk6GG)

421 Good now we can correct the problem of the wrong people having all the money

Posted by: Bill DeBlasio at January 18, 2019 10:39 PM (Dk6GG)

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