The Morning Rant: J.V. Edition

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Green New Deal? Damned straight! Sign this monkey up!

Phase 1. A comprehensive design effort (on the order of The Manhattan Project) to create easily manufactured modern nuclear power plants that can be built quickly and with existing manufacturing infrastructure.

Phase 2. Build 200 of them.

Phase 3. Decrease domestic fossil fuel use dramatically.

Phase 4. Become the only world fossil fuel superpower, simultaneously shrinking the ability of Russia to finance its expansionist policies, destroying the funding for many terrorist groups, and realigning geopolitics away from the Middle East and other oil producing nations.

This is what they mean....right?

Growing number of 2020 Democrats supporting 'Green New Deal'

Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., 37, who says he is looking at a 2020 presidential run, told Fox News he was “excited” to support the proposal and be a part of the process.

“When it comes to climate change, we need to advance policies that don’t ask Americans to choose between their jobs and clean air and water,” Swalwell told Fox News this week. “We can do that by greening the grid with investments in renewable energy and a wage and skills guarantee for any displaced worker.”

Because going nuclear would clean up this country in a big way. We could get rid of those horrid bird-killing machines (wind turbines) and free up all of that wasted land currently being used for solar. Maybe we could also begin to retire some hydro-electric systems and return those canyons and valleys to their former beauty (Hetch Hetchy comes to mind).

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Folks, this woman could teach a Master-Class on how to neuter leftists.



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China is the geopolitical problem. Not Russia, which is on a demographic slide that won't end well.
China Will Fail
China has built its rise on its heralded “managed economy.” Even the American left has become enamored of its decades-long success. Not a single mainstream U.S. media outlet has backed President Trump’s aggressive tariffs against the Chinese, even though Beijing have been ripping us off for years.

For all the criticism, however, Mr. Trump is correct, and the weakness of China’s system leaves it uniquely vulnerable to the U.S. pressure campaign.

China’s economy is starting to fail. While this won’t be surprising to anyone who has studied history and free markets, it is coming as a shock to the legions of Wall Street analysts and establishment media talking heads who have drunk the Kool-Aid of Chinese exceptionalism.

The Chinese aren’t exceptional — except maybe at cheating.

I would like to believe this, but it seems a bit...rosy...for my taste.
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Well, this seems like a good idea!
Police in Canada can now demand breath samples in bars, at home
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Posted by: NativeNH at January 10, 2019 10:57 AM (oxrJj)

2 Swalwell talks like a fag and his shit is all retarded.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (9gmA7)

3 Not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (oh/Sd)

4 2 walls. With walkers in between, and shotguns on top, with flamethrowers.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (zLDYs)

5 Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., 37, who says he is looking at a 2020 presidential run


Also in the running, Harold Stassen, my pet newt, and zombie Abe Vigoda.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (wW03z)

6
Munkey!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (veoSD)

7 Probably unpopular opinion: I think wind turbines look cool.

I don't think I'd mind if I had a bunch of land in the country and had one put up on or by it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (KUaJL)

8 "When it comes to climate change, we need to advance policies that don't ask Americans to choose between their jobs and clean air and water," Swalwell told Fox News


Lithium open pit mining FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:01 AM (EMrMF)

9 France has had a modular nuclear reactor design for decades. US has been into custom building plants.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:01 AM (O636P)

10 Sorry, Lizzie. I'm impervious to pussy-hat horse shit.

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Pure poetry.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 10, 2019 11:01 AM (+y/Ru)

11 The first thing you need to do is build a US Navy style Nuclear Power School.

One that treats running reactors as a TRADE, not a College Degree.

Entrance requirements would have to stay high, and it would have to be based on pure merit, not PC or ethnic politics...

Which is the part that of course, makes it impossible to do outside the military.

Posted by: Don Q at January 10, 2019 11:02 AM (NgKpN)

12 Good on ya, Candace!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:02 AM (I2dne)

13 Wow, Canada.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, indulging myself in a glass of whine! at January 10, 2019 11:02 AM (LISuA)

14 Yes let's have sooper genius Occasional Cortex run our economy. Right into the ground

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2019 11:02 AM (OLCnA)

15 Probably unpopular opinion: I think wind turbines look cool.

I don't think I'd mind if I had a bunch of land in the country and had one put up on or by it.
Posted by: joe


Bing "wind turbine burning".

Watch all the videos.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:02 AM (EMrMF)

16 We're getting closer and closer to nuclear fusion. Invest a quarter of what the Donks want for their bullshit windmills and biofuels, and we'll have more cheap, clean energy than we know what to do with inside of a decade.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 10, 2019 11:03 AM (J+mig)

17 Negative effects of wind turbines:

Return on investment is not that great because a wind turbine only lasts 20 to 25 years.

Wind turbines catch fire.

Wind turbines are giant Cuisinarts for birds.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:03 AM (O636P)

18 Swalwell likes the nuke idea though. He suggests locating them in red states.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, indulging myself in a glass of whine! at January 10, 2019 11:03 AM (LISuA)

19 Even when I'm not numerically first, I am morally first.

Posted by: Alexandria "Sandy from the Block" Ocrazio-Cortex at January 10, 2019 11:03 AM (jcSzd)

20 Commies always cheat - and lie.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 10, 2019 11:03 AM (jI3MC)

21 STARBOARD!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2019 11:03 AM (d7Ww2)

22 It's mean girls all the way down.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy axe handles at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (xJa6I)

23 7 Probably unpopular opinion: I think wind turbines look cool.

I don't think I'd mind if I had a bunch of land in the country and had one put up on or by it.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (KUaJL)

Please go drive up Tehachapi pass in California.

Hundreds of derelict wind mills... why? they get money for putting them in, but not fixing them.

Posted by: Don Q at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (NgKpN)

24 15 Probably unpopular opinion: I think wind turbines look cool.


I agree. It's unpopular.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (wW03z)

25 Any cheap and abundant energy source will be declared off limits. Its all about control.

They'll screw around and make solar work if they're not careful. Then they'll say that thermal energy has to go straight into the Earth's crust. You watch.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (uLp9h)

26 The first thing you need to do is build a US Navy style Nuclear Power School.



One that treats running reactors as a TRADE, not a College Degree.



Entrance requirements would have to stay high, and it would have to be based on pure merit, not PC or ethnic politics...



Which is the part that of course, makes it impossible to do outside the military.



Posted by: Don Q at January 10, 2019 11:02 AM

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Not sure if the Industry is ready for a 35-40% school washout rate.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (JUOKG)

27 China are world-class cheaters. But cheating can work for a while. China worries me, but I don't think they're unstoppably ascendant. They are vulnerable to trade pressure - especially if we start enforcing IP law against them through trade policy. They steal everything that isn't nailed down and a lot of stuff that is.

Their one child policy didn't do them any favors, and has set up a very interesting next 20-40 years for them. Regional war isn't out of the question (go take stuff from someone else, use up the surplus men) - though there will be internal opposition to that as people don't want their only kid (on whom they depend for old-age care) to go die in some stupid war.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (I2dne)

28 Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., 37, who says he is looking at a 2020 presidential run

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We're gonna need a bigger clown car!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (+y/Ru)

29 18 Swalwell likes the nuke idea though. He suggests locating them in red states.


Fine by me, provided the red states get to control to whom they sell the power.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:05 AM (wW03z)

30 >>Negative effects of wind turbines:


They are noisy as all fucking get out, too.

You can hear the ones 35-40 miles away, all day and all night, from our ranch. It's fucking awful.

Also, eyesores.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:05 AM (9gmA7)

31 "Restore Hetch Hetchy".

Good to know. Credibility destroyed. Jesus.

Posted by: nip at January 10, 2019 11:05 AM (DfGpI)

32 wind turbines are fugly.

they destroy the landscape.
they kill a shitton of migratory birds
they kill a shitton of bats
the sound of them makes people batshit cra cra.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2019 11:06 AM (d7Ww2)

33 "When it comes to climate change, we need to advance policies that don't ask Americans to choose between their jobs and clean air and water," Swalwell told Fox News

I didn't know you could pack that much bullshit into a single sentence.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (NWiLs)

34 Hydro is being killed off by the environmentalists out here in WA

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy axe handles at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (xJa6I)

35 Candace kicks their bullshit right back in their faces. And (unlike willow) doesn t need incredibly vile profanity to do it. Heh.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (LkzOc)

36 They'll screw around and make solar work if they're not careful.


Space based solar is the long term solution to energy. The only reason it isn't being pusher harder now is that the technologically illiterate fear a giant death ray from space directed at earth.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (wW03z)

37 Just like there is some concern that we have lost the engineering and manufacturing skill to build the Saturn V launch system, I wonder if we still have the engineering skill and the industrial base to build nuclear reactors?

All those craft union people who built the last ones have retired.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (kJWoP)

38 How much energy do wind turbines generate?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (jcSzd)

39 Space based solar is the long term solution to energy. The only reason it isn't being pusher harder now is that the technologically illiterate fear a giant death ray from space directed at earth.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (wW03z)

Hold up.

I'm intrigued by this giant death ray idea.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (KUaJL)

40 Candace kicks their bullshit right back in their faces. And (unlike willow) doesn t need incredibly vile profanity to do it. Heh.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (LkzOc)
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Moderately profane.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (I2dne)

41 Any energy source that has to be subsidized and/or doesn't stack to fossil fuels in output density can GTFO. That leaves fission and fusion. Thanks for playing, greentards.

An average 1.5-MW turbine (26.9% capacity factor) would produce the same amount of electric energy as that used by almost 332 households over a year. It must be remembered, though, that wind power is intermittent and variable, so a wind turbine produces power at or above its annual average rate only 40% of the time. A wind farm would need 235 square miles to produce the same amount of electricity as a 1,000-megawatt nuclear power plant.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (Boy/L)

42 China, as a planned economy, will encounter all of the structural problems of any other planned economy.

See the Soviet Union for how that all works out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Clearance at the Outrage Outlet! All Despair, Gloom 50% Off! at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (hLRSq)

43
Swalwell likes the nuke idea though. He suggests locating them in red states.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, indulging myself in a glass of whine! at January 10, 2019 11:03 AM (LISuA)






Fine with me. We'll have all the power sources that actually WORK.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (veoSD)

44 >> Hydro is being killed off by the environmentalists out here in WA


Which is retarded. We don't need less dams. We need better dams. And more impoundments.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (9gmA7)

45 Swallowell, Occasional Cortex, Raghead Tlaib. The Dems really have an all-star cast don't they

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (OLCnA)

46 Space based solar is the long term solution to energy. The only reason it isn't being pusher harder now is that the technologically illiterate fear a giant death ray from space directed at earth.
Posted by: pep


You say power beam.
We say death ray.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (EMrMF)

47 It seems there will be 500 Democrats running for president.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Clearance at the Outrage Outlet! All Despair, Gloom 50% Off! at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (hLRSq)

48 >>How much energy do wind turbines generate?


Just about enough to make an Eggo. Every three hours.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (9gmA7)

49 34 Hydro is being killed off by the environmentalists out here in WA
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy axe handles at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (xJa6I)

Cleanest energy source there is, but it's cheap and abundant, therefore they hate it.

It's funny watching the "I love science sexually" crowd beclown themselves over nuclear fusion, too. At least 3/4 of those imbeciles don't even know the difference between it and fission.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (J+mig)

50 We went to Maui for the first time in 2015, was surprised to see a long row of wind turbines up the side of the island by Maalaea. They were in operation maybe a third of the time in a constantly windy environment. Just beautiful, right?

Posted by: jhawk90 at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (zy7v/)

51 France has had a modular nuclear reactor design for decades. US has been into custom building plants.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:01 AM (O636P)


Nobody's ever taken the time to explain why this is; or if they have it's been covered with a pillow. I'm willing to believe that there's a reason for this but I'd prefer that it be explained to me in grown up terms.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (y7DUB)

52 The greenies oppose CNG-powered cars, even though that would reduce "carbon" emissions by 7/8ths. That's all I need to know about the carbon scare-mongering.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM (hjaPQ)

53 We don't need less dams. We need better dams. And more impoundments.
Posted by: garrett



Dams don't work.

Posted by: The Dems at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM (wW03z)

54 when i was little we'd drive by the wind turbines on the way to the snow. and when we'd get to the donner site, my mom would always tell the story, and i'd know we were almost to the cabin.

Posted by: concrete girl at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM (Wr4LW)

55 JOE, they may look cool but they are noisy and clutter the landscape. They are also, not eternal as some may wish to believe and need maintenance and repair/replacement. A 20 year life cycle is about all you can expect.
Nuclear is the way to go.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM (Ow8WE)

56 I'll bet Eric Swallwell hasn't fully investigated the potential of perpetual motion technology. Unlimited energy at zero cost. This is something that the feds should be investing in big time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM (UGqF8)

57 a wage and skills guarantee for any displaced worker"

Hmmm.

You know, I always wondered about the "price of "power" will be lower, but there's going to be "lots" of "green jobs"

So more workers = lower costs?

Pull the other one, willya?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM (6qErC)

58 47 It seems there will be 500 Democrats running for president.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Clearance at the Outrage Outlet! All Despair, Gloom 50% Off! at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (hLRSq)

I want a no-holds-barred battle Royale to the death. Last one standing gets the nomination.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM (NWiLs)

59 Soylent Green Energy

Harnessing the Power of People since 2019

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:11 AM (9gmA7)

60 Nikolai Tesla, "why do you hate trasmitted power?"

Beta-Soi Swallows-Well, "you gonna fry us!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:11 AM (O636P)

61 Wind Turbines are ugly. At least with the oil pumps you can paint them to look like a bird going up and down .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 10, 2019 11:11 AM (0/zKO)

62 Space based solar is the long term solution to energy. The only reason it isn't being pusher harder now is that the technologically illiterate fear a giant death ray from space directed at earth.
Posted by: pep
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One man's energy beam is another man's death ray.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:11 AM (I2dne)

63 A wind farm would need 235 square miles to produce the same amount of electricity as a 1,000-megawatt nuclear power plant.

Posted by: Circa


Talk about a carbon footprint.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:11 AM (EMrMF)

64 Just like there is some concern that we have lost
the engineering and manufacturing skill to build the Saturn V launch
system, I wonder if we still have the engineering skill and the
industrial base to build nuclear reactors?



All those craft union people who built the last ones have retired.





Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM

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Not only are those people mostly retired, a whole bunch of them are dead. The last Nuke Power Plant built in the US started construction in 1977.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:11 AM (JUOKG)

65
The Green New Deal: subsistence farming, famine, poverty, low life expectancy, infant mortality, technological and infrastructural decay.

It will be good for the Ruling Class, though.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2019 11:12 AM (tgzKa)

66 The Green New Deal: subsistence farming, famine, poverty, low life expectancy, infant mortality, technological and infrastructural decay.

It will be good for the Ruling Class, though.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2019 11:12 AM (tgzKa)
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Ruling classes love them some serfdom

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:12 AM (I2dne)

67 55 JOE, they may look cool but they are noisy and clutter the landscape. They are also, not eternal as some may wish to believe and need maintenance and repair/replacement. A 20 year life cycle is about all you can expect.
Nuclear is the way to go.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM (Ow8WE)

I'm just saying the aesthetics of the thing don't bother me as much a lot of people here. I fully concede all the other practical arguments against them as a large scale energy strategy.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:12 AM (KUaJL)

68 Not sure if the Industry is ready for a 35-40% school washout rate.

And it damn sure isn't ready for all the idiotic lawsuits for being "unfair" to the non-qualifiers and washouts.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2019 11:12 AM (Boy/L)

69 Skandia Recluse @ 37- There's still a bunch of those old craftsmen around that built the nuke plants. Look anywhere in the country but especially in the south.

Posted by: Eromero at January 10, 2019 11:12 AM (zLDYs)

70 Wind Turbines are ugly. At least with the oil pumps you can paint them to look like a bird going up and down .
Posted by: Can't resist temptation


Must. Resist. Cheap. Hooker. Joke.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:12 AM (EMrMF)

71 Probably unpopular opinion: I think wind turbines look cool.

I don't think I'd mind if I had a bunch of land in the country and had one put up on or by it.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (KUaJL)


You sound like my wife when she's really pissing me off.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2019 11:12 AM (y7DUB)

72 Hundreds of derelict wind mills... why? they get money for putting them in, but not fixing them.

Posted by: Don Q at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (NgKpN)

I suspect this happens a lot. Failure to budget for maintenance is a common human failing any way, and it's about the only way to make the things look as if they were economically viable.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 10, 2019 11:13 AM (uquGJ)

73 Can we go back to the wall for a moment?

How bout we say "The wall is off the table'

And then build up our southern border like the South/North Korean border?

With the same rules of engagement.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 10, 2019 11:13 AM (cqNba)

74 Thorium salt reactors. Invest now.

Posted by: boyNsea at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (Fks5r)

75 Probably unpopular opinion: I think wind turbines look cool.

I don't think I'd mind if I had a bunch of land in the country and had one put up on or by it.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:00 AM (KUaJL)
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I probably agree with you - they're elegant what with the swooping lines and all. But I only see massive sunk costs, inefficiency, corruption and grand-scale scientific fraud when I see them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (I2dne)

76 65
The Green New Deal: subsistence farming, famine, poverty, low life expectancy, infant mortality, technological and infrastructural decay.

It will be good for the Ruling Class, though.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh



Worked out pretty well for us.

Posted by: The Huns at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (wW03z)

77 How can the Canucks get it so wrong?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (MuDfX)

78 Google runs most of there servers off a dedicated hydroelectric plant that the government gives them a break on.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (0/zKO)

79 No, cost and the normal considerations are the only ones to use. "Fossil fuels" are by far the best fuels, from all angles (sorry, science will be used here, so "environmental" BS is excluded).


Far far better to use the cost-superior energy-dense fuels. Duh. Any, *any* departure from that, just as with any other resource or economic activity, implies waste/opportunity cost/reduced economic return.


New-design, closed-circuit nukes might have niche applications. Such as "co-generation" sorts of concepts, like plants on the CA coast, to produce inexpensive power, and desalinate ocean water.


It is stunning to review the degree to which ignorance, laziness/submissiveness, romanticism, and authoritarian impulses limit and impoverish America today. Our energy situation should be, and easily could be, 75% better, in short order, with no important downside.


But the country is too dumbed down - to include many "conservatives" - to break out of its sad state.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (QDnY+)

80 Last one standing gets the nomination.



Does that include propped up against a bollard because the Beast will make sure the opposition commits suicide quickly

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (OLCnA)

81 Ive been predicting that China will blow up internally. Age old cycle of rural v elites. This time with massive pollution. Water pollution is worse than their air pollution

Its another example of failed central planning that will be ignored by our elites

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (MDUhB)

82 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (RzRjr)

83 Wind turbines are high maintenance and unreliable. Like the Osprey pos the Marine brass are so in love with.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (LkzOc)

84 Anytime a politician says climate change, my bullsh*t meter maxes out.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2019 11:15 AM (Dwe7n)

85 Soylent Green Energy

Turning Problems into Powwer since 2019

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:15 AM (9gmA7)

86 Elizabeth Spiers is going to need to put some ice on that.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at January 10, 2019 11:15 AM (0CMdT)

87 I've heard some skepticism here about Candace Owens. And, I get that... but I've seen less disingenuous self-promotion out of her than I've seen from her prominent detractors, notably Ben Shapiro.

So far, I think she's trustworthy, pending some leftist chest-burster coming out of her like Bill Kristol or S.E. Cupp.

I think when guys like Ben say "Candace isn't a TruCon™, she's just a crass opportunist," it's something akin to when Hill-Dawg accuses Trump of Russian collusion. Projection and deflection.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:15 AM (AzW6q)

88 Thorium salt reactors. Invest now.
Posted by: boyNsea at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (Fks5r)
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Upshot: very high process heat - so you can run a Fischer-Tropsch plant in the same facility and gassify coal with basically no additional energy cost.
Downshot: Nasty by-products that are hard to process.
Upshot to the downshot: Not good for atomic weapons fuel manufacture.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:16 AM (I2dne)

89 I have been of the opinion for a long while that Russia, and Putin, are significantly more concerned about China than they are the US.

Russia has a huge land border with China, and they don't have a lot of people out there. China has a lot of people. And a lot more of those people are male than female. Russia has a lot more females than males, and are overall a declining population.

Think about when Russia invaded Georgia - what else was going on then? Olympics in Beijing.

Putin is not worried that the West will invade or destroy Russia.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2019 11:16 AM (9VeU0)

90 39 Space based solar is the long term solution to energy. The only reason it isn't being pusher harder now is that the technologically illiterate fear a giant death ray from space directed at earth.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (wW03z)

If you are beaming large amounts of electricity to Earth, you're probably going to be doing that with microwaves. The only thing keeping it from being a death ray is where it's aimed.

Am I supposed to believe that everyone will use this technology for the betterment of mankind, or that terrorists won't hijack an emitter array to burn a city off the map?

You might as well ask me to believe in unicorns. If it can be weaponized, it will.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 10, 2019 11:16 AM (J+mig)

91 It seems there will be 500 Democrats running for president.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Clearance at the Outrage Outlet! All Despair, Gloom 50% Off! at January 10, 2019 11:09 AM (hLRSq)



I want a no-holds-barred battle Royale to the death. Last one standing gets the nomination.


Posted by: Insomniac at January 10, 2019 11:10 AM

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Maybe do something like Celebrity Death Match.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:16 AM (JUOKG)

92 I think when guys like Ben say "Candace isn't a TruCon, she's just a crass opportunist," it's something akin to when Hill-Dawg accuses Trump of Russian collusion. Projection and deflection.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:15 AM (AzW6q)

*two spidermen pointing at each other*

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:16 AM (KUaJL)

93 61 Wind Turbines are ugly. At least with the oil pumps you can paint them to look like a bird going up and down .
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 10, 2019 11:11 AM (0/zKO)

They used to paint the big spherical storage tanks along I-95 in South Philly to look like baseballs.

Posted by: josephistan at January 10, 2019 11:17 AM (7HtZB)

94 I really like Candace Owen

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 10, 2019 11:17 AM (BJlbN)

95 Google runs most of there servers off a dedicated hydroelectric plant that the government gives them a break on.

BS PR. Google merely "virtually" displaces others back onto the fossil grid. It's every bit the stunt that carbon offsets are. Given a constant load and source, the grid is a completely zero sum game.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2019 11:17 AM (Boy/L)

96 I've heard some skepticism here about Candace Owens. And, I get that... but I've seen less disingenuous self-promotion out of her than I've seen from her prominent detractors, notably Ben Shapiro.



.....

Every conservative celebrity is but one 7 figure contract away from Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:17 AM (MuDfX)

97 Based in the informative discussion here, I conclude that we're not realizing the full potential of wind turbines because we refuse to make human sacrifices to the weather gods. We need to supplement our turbines with skull towers. Maybe we could pass a law requiring eveyone to where beanies with propellers and use that energy to charge our smartphones.

Posted by: Futurist at January 10, 2019 11:17 AM (jcSzd)

98 Nobody's ever taken the time to explain why this is;"

Less opportunity for graft.

Seriously. That's it.


And by "graft", I mean "government contracts"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:17 AM (6qErC)

99 Actually, internalized misogyny is a made-up term by radicalized white suburban feminists who think they can control outspoken women plus garner more power for themselves by creating imaginary diagnoses.

Sorry, Lizzie. I'm impervious to pussy-hat horse shit.


White leftist women don't believe the shit they are trying to peddle. Example A, the other Lizzie, Lizze Warren.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 10, 2019 11:18 AM (EIg7G)

100 How much energy do wind turbines generate?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Not as much as their proponents.

Posted by: JT at January 10, 2019 11:18 AM (RzRjr)

101 88 Thorium salt reactors. Invest now.
Posted by: boyNsea at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (Fks5r)
+++++++++
Upshot: very high process heat - so you can run a Fischer-Tropsch plant in the same facility and gassify coal with basically no additional energy cost.
Downshot: Nasty by-products that are hard to process.
Upshot to the downshot: Not good for atomic weapons fuel manufacture.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:16 AM (I2dne)

Downshot: Lokium will keep trying to screw over Thorium.

Posted by: josephistan at January 10, 2019 11:19 AM (7HtZB)

102 So far, I think she's trustworthy, pending some leftist chest-burster coming out of her like Bill Kristol or S.E. Cupp.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:15 AM (AzW6q)


I'd love to give S.E. a chest burst. It would truly be my pleasure.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 10, 2019 11:19 AM (uLp9h)

103 I always liked the sound of an old pump jack being run on casing gas to a 1 lung hit or miss engine
*POP* chuf chuf chuf chuf *Pop* chuf chuf chuf. ..

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2019 11:20 AM (LkzOc)

104 Given a constant load and source, the grid is a completely zero sum game."

Snort.

I've actually had people yell at me when telling me that yes, their 'lectricty was ONEHUNNERDPERCENT "renewable" or "responsibly" sourced.

I just ask where the other power lines are going into our houses...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:20 AM (6qErC)

105 Nobody's ever taken the time to explain why this is;"

Less opportunity for graft.

Seriously. That's it.


And by "graft", I mean "government contracts"
Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:17 AM (6qErC)


That's what I assumed was the case but was just leaving it open to being surprised.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2019 11:20 AM (y7DUB)

106 Google runs most of there servers off a dedicated hydroelectric plant that the government gives them a break on.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (0/zKO)
++++++++++++
Sort of. Parts of the Columbia River valley in Washington are dotted with hydro plants and energy is cheap. Lots of datacenters dot that region because of it. My company has one. It isn't subsidized as far as I know (at least not in my firm's case), but it is cheaper per kilowatt-hour.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:20 AM (I2dne)

107 Here's the real kicker to all "green" renewables... you need 100% backup for each. So rate-payers pay up for that feel good feeling.
They make 0 economic sense. None. Eliminate subsidies and none get built.

Posted by: MarkY at January 10, 2019 11:20 AM (i022r)

108 Our energy situation should be, and easily could be, 75% better, in short order, with no important downside.

We should have used Puerto Rico after the '17 hurricanes as a test lab for grid updates and hardening. We lose at least 30% of our current in transmission. Just think about what eliminating half of that loss does to both supply and costs. The lack of a hard grid is going to bite us in the ass with a large enough solar flare or an EMP attack.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (Boy/L)

109 AMAZON ALEXA can now control vibrator...

Don't stop! Don't stop! Don't stop!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (+y/Ru)

110 Of course, we can't have Homer Simpson working at the nuclear power plant anymore, like he's done at Hanford for the past few decades.

Posted by: RKae at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (LurX2)

111 83 Wind turbines are high maintenance and unreliable. Like the Osprey pos the Marine brass are so in love with.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2019 11:14 AM (LkzOc)

The Osprey was a deathtrap during its lengthy prototype phase, but the production model has been one of the most reliable vehicles in service.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (J+mig)

112 Every conservative celebrity is but one 7 figure contract away from Orange Man Bad.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:17 AM (MuDfX)

------

Probably right. I'm trying to think - Hannity is solid in his beliefs. So is Rush. And VDH. But that's not many people.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (AzW6q)

113
China are world-class cheaters. But cheating can work for a while. China worries me, but I don't think they're unstoppably ascendant. They are vulnerable to trade pressure - especially if we start enforcing IP law against them through trade policy. They steal everything that isn't nailed down and a lot of stuff that is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM (I2dne)







Word.

As an example, Cisco has always had horrible problems with Chinese factories building counterfeit Cisco equipment. That includes their own Chinese factories. About 15-20 years ago, at least one of them was caught running extra shifts to build more gear than they reported to Cisco. All so they could sell on the black market.

It's depressingly common for telcos to buy Cisco enterprise gear from legit distributors and get stuck when they try to install the software from Cisco, because the serial numbers for the hardware have already been swiped and used for counterfeit gear.

Same thing goes on for virtually all of the telco/data gear manufacturers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (veoSD)

114 A standardized reactor plant that can be upscaled is a one shot design cost.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (O636P)

115 Maybe we could pass a law requiring eveyone to where beanies with propellers and use that energy to charge our smartphones.
=====

Good one.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (MIKMs)

116 If you are beaming large amounts of electricity to Earth, you're probably going to be doing that with microwaves. The only thing keeping it from being a death ray is where it's aimed.

The idea is to keep the energy density very low, not much above solar. The whole thing could be done much more efficiently without that limitation, but DEATH RAY!

Am I supposed to believe that everyone will use this technology for the betterment of mankind, or that terrorists won't hijack an emitter array to burn a city off the map?

The size and complexity of the project and the costs involved make this unlikely in the extreme. Terrorists would love to hijack it, but they'd need to control the software. Also, it would be really hard to drive a truck bomb at it. Besides, it would be easy to disable it, if not outright destroy it.

If it can be weaponized, it will.

Agreed. If.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:22 AM (wW03z)

117 38 How much energy do wind turbines generate?
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At most 2% of demand. Spain cancelled their wind turbine programs because they were losing money. Other Europeans countries have done so because they have to be backed up with real power generators should the wind not blow. This means there is no savings by installing them. Just look at GE stock price to know how great wind turbines are.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:22 AM (2LelM)

118 errorists would love to hijack it, but they'd need to control the software. Also, it would be really hard to drive a truck bomb at it. Besides, it would be easy to disable it, if not outright destroy it.


Which is to say, easy for the people who built it.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:22 AM (wW03z)

119 run on casing gas"

Casing gas? There's a phrase I haven't heard in years...

*thumbsup*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:22 AM (6qErC)

120 I want to believe that Trump Mulvaney will have the shutdown go 30 days and then RIF boatloads if federal employees. Timing fits with the State of the Union

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 10, 2019 11:23 AM (MDUhB)

121 Probably right. I'm trying to think - Hannity is solid in his beliefs. So is Rush. And VDH. But that's not many people.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:21 AM (AzW6q)

.....

Only because they have, save VDH, eight digit contracts going in the other direction.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:23 AM (MuDfX)

122 I'm impervious to pussy-hat horseshit.

That is my slogan for the day.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 10, 2019 11:23 AM (8iiMU)

123 Here's the real kicker to all "green" renewables... you need 100% backup
for each. So rate-payers pay up for that feel good feeling. They make 0 economic sense. None. Eliminate subsidies and none get built.
=====

Green Energy Good. Brown Energy Bad.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 10, 2019 11:24 AM (MIKMs)

124
What is the economic potential of the internalized misogynistic engine?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2019 11:24 AM (pNxlR)

125 WaPo: That sophisticated, specific Russian 2016 voter targeting effort doesnt seem to exist


Nevermind !!

Posted by: McCool at January 10, 2019 11:24 AM (Izjjo)

126 What is the economic potential of the internalized misogynistic engine?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2019 11:24 AM (pNxlR)

Much less than the perpetual outrage device.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:25 AM (KUaJL)

127 If I was a real go getter I'd find some unemployed or under employed lawyers and good salespeople and start a non-profit to save the birds from evil energy companies.

Somehow Sierra Club, WWF etc manage to completely miss that giant corporations like BP and Shell are building a lot of the wind choppers. They don't mind making money from subsidies for shit that doesn't work as well as for real energy products.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 10, 2019 11:25 AM (jUcoH)

128 Just like there is some concern that we have lost
the engineering and manufacturing skill to build the Saturn V launch
system, I wonder if we still have the engineering skill and the
industrial base to build nuclear reactors?



All those craft union people who built the last ones have retired.





Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM

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Not only are those people mostly retired, a whole bunch of them are dead. The last Nuke Power Plant built in the US started construction in 1977.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:11 AM (JUOKG)


?
Someone had to figure out how to build them in the first place, and I bet they left instructions behind.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Clearance at the Outrage Outlet! All Despair, Gloom 50% Off! at January 10, 2019 11:25 AM (hLRSq)

129 124
What is the economic potential of the internalized misogynistic engine?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2019 11:24 AM (pNxlR)

African or European?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 10, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

130 "We can do that by greening the grid with investments in renewable energy and a wage and skills guarantee for any displaced worker."
----------

Same plan Stalin had for the Kulaks. New green jobs in Siberia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2019 11:25 AM (HTHlp)

131 "When it comes to climate change, we need to advance policies that don't ask Americans to choose between their jobs and clean air and water,"


". . . instead, they'll be asked to choose between owning a car or paying their monthly electric bill, and whether they can afford a 1000sq ft micro-home in a high rise or settle for the 680 sq ft one . . ."

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2019 11:25 AM (W+vEI)

132
If it can be weaponized, it will.

Agreed. If.
Posted by: pep at January

Why not weaponize it first, make sure we can pop some heads with it - then goco for commercial power until needed.

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2019 11:26 AM (sFO1P)

133 In addition, we do build nuclear powered submarines and aircraft carriers, so it isn't exactly a lost science.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Clearance at the Outrage Outlet! All Despair, Gloom 50% Off! at January 10, 2019 11:26 AM (hLRSq)

134 Next thing you know, Canada will outlaw motor cars and you'll have to sneak off to your uncle's place to drive that red Barchetta.

Posted by: Not Neil Peart at January 10, 2019 11:26 AM (t2P6q)

135 Too many people don't want "radioactive" electricity coming into their homes.

You think I am kidding.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2019 11:26 AM (9VeU0)

136 Please go drive up Tehachapi pass in California.

Altamont Pass, too. Just piles of junk and every third windmill that's standing isn't turning, for some reason.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2019 11:26 AM (1+J19)

137 Someone had to figure out how to build them in the first place, and I bet they left instructions behind.

That is my hope, that engineering advances mean a new design would be better than the old. Our cars are better, why can't our nuke plants be as much improved?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 10, 2019 11:26 AM (kJWoP)

138
Swallowell, Occasional Cortex, Raghead Tlaib. The Dems really have an all-star cast don't they
Posted by: TheQuietMan


And they keep getting elected.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2019 11:27 AM (aKsyK)

139 What is the economic potential of the internalized misogynistic engine?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2019 11:24 AM (pNxlR)

Much less than the perpetual outrage device.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:25 AM (KUaJL)


That's why I always externalize my misogyny. For the environment. You're welcome.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 10, 2019 11:27 AM (uLp9h)

140 ". . . instead, they'll be asked to choose between owning a car or
paying their monthly electric bill, and whether they can afford a 1000sq
ft micro-home in a high rise or settle for the 680 sq ft one . . ."


Also called Agenda 21

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:27 AM (O636P)

141 Somehow Sierra Club, WWF etc manage to completely miss that giant corporations like BP and Shell are building a lot of the wind choppers.
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The Sierra Club was bought out by a Manhattan hedge fund dork for a $100M donation. The Club then changed their politics on Open Borders and migrants the next day. Everything is for sale. This is the Globalists best weapon.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:27 AM (2LelM)

142

The size and complexity of the project and the costs involved make this unlikely in the extreme.

And that's why that's not a good idea. Nuclear power is proven, safe and we can start building power plants today. There's no RampersandD involved and no delays.
CBD has hit the nail on the head. We need to start pushing for this solution.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2019 11:27 AM (HaL55)

143 Someone had to figure out how to build them in the first place, and I bet they left instructions behind.

And they wrote them in pig-latin.

Posted by: JT at January 10, 2019 11:27 AM (RzRjr)

144 China has built its rise on its heralded managed economy. Even the American left has become enamored of its decades-long success.

They say that like its tough to impress the American left. Just start putting your political enemies in prison camps and you*re 80 percent there. Hell, you can just lie about how successful you are after that because it*s pretty much all they care about.

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at January 10, 2019 11:27 AM (RkYsP)

145 138
Swallowell, Occasional Cortex, Raghead Tlaib. The Dems really have an all-star cast don't they
Posted by: TheQuietMan

And they keep getting elected.
---------------------
Don't forget about Schiff.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:28 AM (2LelM)

146 Maybe we could pass a law requiring eveyone to where beanies with propellers and use that energy to charge our smartphones.
=====

Good one.
Posted by: mustbequantum


And if every car had a sun roof, driving with it open would spin the propeller on the beanie, thereby charging our smartphones for free!
Posted by: Occasional Cortex

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:28 AM (EMrMF)

147 Build small, cheap nuke reactors all over, like the size of those on subs or carriers.

Posted by: Josh C at January 10, 2019 11:28 AM (x45Yc)

148 144 China has built its rise on its heralded managed economy. Even the American left has become enamored of its decades-long success.
--------------------
Care to count the empty cities they built?

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:28 AM (2LelM)

149 How much energy do wind turbines generate?
-------------------
At most 2% of demand. Spain cancelled their wind turbine programs because they were losing money. Other Europeans countries have done so because they have to be backed up with real power generators should the wind not blow. This means there is no savings by installing them. Just look at GE stock price to know how great wind turbines are.
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:22 AM (2LelM)


Remember when Adultery of the Heart was in office and didn't have one fucking clue about how to get anything done the right way and dealt with the "energy crisis" by cranking up the PURPA laws so every Tom Not So Swift with a creek in his yard could hook up a mini turbine to the grid and *POOF* end of problem. That worked well.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2019 11:28 AM (y7DUB)

150 It's depressingly common for telcos to buy Cisco enterprise gear from
legit distributors and get stuck when they try to install the software
from Cisco


And then when Cisco investigates their own plants, let me guess...nobody knows nuttin! I'm kind of surprised they don't know where, when, and by whom a serial number is issued to a newly-manufactured part, but that's not my problem.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, indulging myself in a glass of whine! at January 10, 2019 11:29 AM (LISuA)

151 147 Build small, cheap nuke reactors all over, like the size of those on subs or carriers.
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How about a nuclear car that flies? Fuck George Jetson.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:29 AM (2LelM)

152 36 They'll screw around and make solar work if they're not careful.


Space based solar is the long term solution to energy. The only reason it isn't being pusher harder now is that the technologically illiterate fear a giant death ray from space directed at earth.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:07 AM (wW03z)

You say "death ray" like it's a BAD thing. (The big problem with the energy necessary to beam the energy down to earth: it'll fry anything in its path, including birds and airplanes.)

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at January 10, 2019 11:29 AM (RD7QR)

153 >>"We can do that by greening the grid with investments in renewable energy and a wage and skills guarantee for any displaced worker."



Honestly, what does that even mean? Here's my guess:

"Greening the grid" = replacing fossil fuels replaced with renewable energy, which we cannot produce at the same levels, so = LESS AVAILABLE ENERGY = brownouts, skyrocketing energy costs

"a wage and skills guarantee for any displaced worker" = guaranteed income for people who no longer have jobs. They get to sit in their micro-home in the city, wishing for some electricity to power their laptop and all of their "smart" apps like Alexa.


Sounds like a dream!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2019 11:29 AM (W+vEI)

154 Please go drive up Tehachapi pass in California.

Altamont Pass, too. Just piles of junk and every third windmill that's standing isn't turning, for some reason.
Posted by: t-bird


IH-35 between Ardmore,Oklahoma and Oklahoma City.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (EMrMF)

155
Please go drive up Tehachapi pass in California.

Altamont Pass, too. Just piles of junk and every third windmill that's standing isn't turning, for some reason.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2019 11:26 AM (1+J19)






And they've been that way for 40 years.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (veoSD)

156 Other Europeans countries have done so because they have to be backed up with real power generators should the wind not blow.

And I'll bet some of them use that power to spin the blades. So voters think they're getting their money's worth.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (gHCnG)

157
SOTU: "Thanks to the bold leadership of Chuck and Nanzi, we have seen that a substantial ROF in the federal workplace actually benefits our economy. Once those two pass and release the $5 billion requested for border security, those of you currently involuntarily furloughed will receive your severance package. Let's give Chuck and Nancy a big round of applause for having courage enough to allow their invaluable experiment to run! Out of such exercises, we will reap all the benefits of our bold, new No Red Tape Deal!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (pNxlR)

158 145 138
Swallowell, Occasional Cortex, Raghead Tlaib. The Dems really have an all-star cast don't they
Posted by: TheQuietMan

And they keep getting elected.
---------------------
Don't forget about Schiff.


Kirsten "Schumer's Lapdog" Gillibrand
Al "Not the good Al Green but his Son" Green, Jr.
And Brad "Brad" Sherman

Posted by: Not Neil Peart at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (t2P6q)

159 Flypaper Whiskey 23:

(With apologies to Michael Herr):

"When I was spraying the Mat, all I could think about was being back at Guapo's with a cold beer and tacos. And when I was at Guapo's, all I could think about was spraying the Mat. A dichotomy, to be or not to be, real potent get-in-your-head stuff. Some people know when they've found their destiny. Mine was to cropdust aerosolized glue on a Mexican border rug."

Posted by: Zod at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (Bdeb0)

160
Hydro makes so much sense. Shovel ready jobs. Lakes, recreation, fun, sports...

Oh wait, did I say fun? The Dems disapprove.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (jYje5)

161 Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:22 AM (2LelM)

Yup, unless the total cost of the Wind turbines is less than the FUEL cost of the other generation capacity you have to use...

It does not make economic sense, because the plant costs of the production capacity you need for when the wind does NOT blow (or blows too hard) still has to be there.

Posted by: Don Q at January 10, 2019 11:31 AM (NgKpN)

162 In addition, we do build nuclear powered submarines and aircraft carriers, so it isn't exactly a lost science.


Posted by: Mikey NTH - Clearance at the Outrage Outlet! All Despair, Gloom 50% Off! at January 10, 2019 11:26 AM

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If you let Electric Boat or Newport News Shipbuilding have the contract to build a new Nuke plant it will have cost overruns of about $100 BILLION and take 10 years longer than contracted to build.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:31 AM (JUOKG)

163 China are world-class cheaters. But cheating can work for a while. China worries me, but I don't think they're unstoppably ascendant. They are vulnerable to trade pressure - especially if we start enforcing IP law against them through trade policy. They steal everything that isn't nailed down and a lot of stuff that is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:04 AM


A telecom equipment manufacturer I was a manager for submitted equipment for a bid in India.

7 of the 9 submittals were *our* equipment. Of the 6 Chinese copies, two were so exact that they had duplicated defects existing in our backplane.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2019 11:31 AM (DMUuz)

164 Someone had to figure out how to build them in the first place, and I bet they left instructions behind.
Posted by: Mikey NTH



They were all printed on thermal fax paper.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:31 AM (EMrMF)

165 Does anyone find any parallels between the admirers of China today and the admirers of Italian Syndicalism of the 1930's? Beating the Depression, making the trains run on time and all that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:31 AM (ujg0T)

166 The reason the left wants open borders is to have a cheap source of solar panel squeegee guys.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (2LelM)

167 Not that nuclear power is a bad idea, but THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OIL AND FOSSIL FUELS.

This whole green bullshit lie that they impact temperature whatsoever needs to go to hell.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (JcPeV)

168 >>Also called Agenda 21


Yup.
Doesn't matter what the "problem" is, the solution is always the same: we must control your lives.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (W+vEI)

169 wind generators are ugly bird choppers ... in Europe now, they require old ones be properly dismantled. A bunch of them on a (otherwise) beautiful site is just ugly. They kill birds and bats ... generally perform half as well as advertised.


Solar is a better option, especially for ranches out west. I may do about 10k of solar this year to capture the tax incentive, but the local coop makes their profit mostly by selling electricity, so are less than thrilled at the prospect of selling less, and put up some obstacles for the grid-tie system (like $2M liability insurance requirement, cutting the heat pump lower rate).


The coal generating power plant was shuttered here ... it was clean enough but "global warming" and the war on coal. And most canyons are more awesome as boat heaven reservoirs and power producing dams, imo. Slowing and storing water is generally very useful and enviro-friendly.


But overall, the left wants to cripple US till we submit to their globalist dominance, where we can be made slaves again, like the "good old days", and they won't have to go to China to run their slave labor camps. They don't care about clean energy ... it is just part of their fake "Green Party" propaganda. It is in fact, just the revised name for the communist party.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (Cus5s)

170
...
"a wage and skills guarantee for any displaced worker" = guaranteed income for people who no longer have jobs. They get to sit in their micro-home in the city, wishing for some electricity to power their laptop and all of their "smart" apps like Alexa.
...
Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2019 11:29 AM (W+vEI)
+++++++++++++++
That's the least of it. Modern civilization is based on two key foundation stones: refrigeration and clean water. Both of these require gobs of stable energy. Your iPhone is probably near the bottom of your worries list if the refrigerators and water treatment plants keep going out...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (I2dne)

171 If you let Electric Boat or Newport News Shipbuilding have the contract to build a new Nuke plant it will have cost overruns of about $100 BILLION and take 10 years longer than contracted to build."

But think of the jerbs, man! Whoo Hoo!

/congress

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (6qErC)

172 Did Newson kill High Speed Trains?

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (2LelM)

173 Build small, cheap nuke reactors all over, like the size of those on subs or carriers.

The security would need to be robust. If Abdul Mohammed or Bill Ayers wants to grab the cores to make dirty bombs, every single one of these would be a target.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, indulging myself in a glass of whine! at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (LISuA)

174 Build small, cheap nuke reactors all over, like the size of those on subs or carriers.
--------------------
How about a nuclear car that flies? Fuck George Jetson.
Posted by: Puddin Head


Mid-air collisions looking like Nagasaki.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (EMrMF)

175 Well we could finally give a serious push to the Pebble-bed Reactor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (O636P)

176 "Our cars are better..."

Debatable.
Yes, they run better, the engines run fine, but all the minor stuff is worse.
So you end up with a 5 year old car with windows that won't roll down because of electrical issues.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (w7KSn)

177 Space based solar is the long term solution to energy. The only reason it isn't being pusher harder now is that the technologically illiterate fear a giant death ray from space directed at earth.

-
Wernher von Braun's original dream was to build a solar energy collecting device in space for transmission to Earth but 'Dolph Hitler had other uses for his rockets.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (+y/Ru)

178 Does anyone find any parallels between the admirers of China today and the admirers of Italian Syndicalism of the 1930's"

And admirers of MITI in the 80's. People who fantasize about power over others are nothing new.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (6qErC)

179 OK this is insane. I saw this tweet in a cnbc article on how the furloughed Fed workers are hurting:

"We are a 2 fed household and both furloughed (going on 2+ wks now!).
Our agencies protect clean air water for Americans, and promote
gender equality and womens empowerment in developing countries around
the world. We are sad to have our work caught up in this political
stunt."

Why the fvck is my tax money being spent on gender equality and empowering women in other Countries?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (JUOKG)

180 The size and complexity of the project and the costs involved make this unlikely in the extreme.

And that's why that's not a good idea. Nuclear power is proven, safe and we can start building power plants today. There's no RampersandD involved and no delays.
CBD has hit the nail on the head. We need to start pushing for this solution.



Why do you assume it's either / or? As I said originally, it's the long-term solution. In the meantime, I'm all in favor or nuclear.

It's also not a good idea to eschew new technologies because the old ones work. If we did, we'd all be on a smoke signal blog.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:34 AM (wW03z)

181 Remind me, other than NIMBY, why do we have an energy generation problem again?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, indulging myself in a glass of whine! at January 10, 2019 11:34 AM (LISuA)

182 Hydro makes so much sense. Shovel ready jobs. Lakes, recreation, fun, sports...

Oh wait, did I say fun? The Dems disapprove.
Posted by: Newest Nic at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (jYje5)
++++++++++++++
I think the problem (such as it is) with hydro at this point is that we've used up most of the good sites for it. Hydro is awesome, but there are a lot of requirements and you can only build so many.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:34 AM (I2dne)

183 157


SOTU: "Thanks to the bold leadership of Chuck and Nanzi, we have
seen that a substantial ROF in the federal workplace actually benefits
our economy. Once those two pass and release the $5 billion requested
for border security, those of you currently involuntarily furloughed
will receive your severance package. Let's give Chuck and Nancy a big
round of applause for having courage enough to allow their invaluable
experiment to run! Out of such exercises, we will reap all the benefits
of our bold, new No Red Tape Deal!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM
**************
Gawd. I'd go running into the streets with tears of joy if he were to say this.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2019 11:34 AM (dvH9o)

184 US District (George W. Bush) Judge Philip S. Gutierrezdismissed Judd's sexual harassment case against the movie mogul, stating in the ruling obtained by CNN that Judd's legal team had "not adequately alleged that her relationship with Defendant was covered by the statute."

Posted by: SMOD at January 10, 2019 11:34 AM (QkjLD)

185 Can I have my own nuke? Just a small one? Pretty please...

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (BJlbN)

186 44 >> Hydro is being killed off by the environmentalists out here in WA

Which is retarded. We don't need less dams. We need better dams. And more impoundments.
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (9gmA7)


Yep. The same "No Nukes" eco-fiends regularly oppose hydroelectric projects, and get goo-goo about "Wild and Scenic Rivers".

In a state that alternates between drought and flood like CA does, those people ought to be institutionalized. But sadly, they now get elected to office.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (ujg0T)

187 Hydro makes so much sense.

It depends. If you don't have any, the greens want to build it. If you have it, the greens want to tear it down.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (VP1E6)

188 Did Newson kill High Speed Trains?"

Orville and Wilbur.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (6qErC)

189 When I say I would start a non-profit to save the birds I am only half-kidding. I would have as its mission to lobby the congressional staff to remove the exemptions for wind mills for penalties for killing bald eagles and condors. But other than Ducks Unlimited these "save the critters" are pretty much cash machines. Pay your lawyers and the marketing staff that designs the mailers and TV ads a generous salary, jet off to various conventions to speak about the needs to rich liberals to get them to write checks to mitigate their guilt. If wooden Al Gore can make $100 million you don't need real charisma or smarts to get rich off the environmental guilt train.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (jUcoH)

190 How many Labatt Blue's have you had sir?

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (vmAQh)

191 Bing "wind turbine burning".

Watch all the videos.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:02 AM (EMrMF)

that's the best part, catastrophic failures...

on this green deal point, as someone here who's much smarter and better looking than me once said, I'll start believing global warming is a problem, when the people telling me it's a problem start acting like it's a problem...

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (8D42x)

192 Why the fvck is my tax money being spent on gender equality and empowering women in other Countries?


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (JUOKG)

----------------
This is a good question

Posted by: Huck Follywood, indulging myself in a glass of whine! at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (LISuA)

193 Not that nuclear power is a bad idea, but THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OIL AND FOSSIL FUELS.

When Cock Curious made it clear in 2008 just how much he was willing to shitcan the entire coal industry it was my first clue into how much he hated the country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (y7DUB)

194 "And I'll bet some of them use that power to spin the blades. So voters think they're getting their money's worth."

Wouldn't be hard to have an empty housing with a speed limiting governor, and no electrical generation or gear train drag on the blades.

They would rotate with minimal wind.

And add a jacking motor to rotate them when wind is too slow.

Then generate the real electricity with a hidden nuke plant.


Everyone is happy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (cqNba)

195 If you let Electric Boat or Newport News Shipbuilding have the contract to build a new Nuke plant it will have cost overruns of about $100 BILLION and take 10 years longer than contracted to build.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:31 AM


At least with Electric Boat, you'll get some extra EBG (Electric Boat Green, the best 'duct tape' in the galaxy) to go with the deal.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (DMUuz)

196 154 Please go drive up Tehachapi pass in California.

Altamont Pass, too. Just piles of junk and every third windmill that's standing isn't turning, for some reason.
Posted by: t-bird
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In Palms Springs I noticed around 10% of the mills actually turning. The rest just sit there and bake in the sun.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (2LelM)

197 We are a 2 fed household and both furloughed (going on 2+ wks now!)."

Or for those of us who have had to work, a "paid vacation".

Sux to be you.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (6qErC)

198 I will say this however: the one problem with nuclear power stations is terrorism, largely immigration driven at that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (ujg0T)

199 Flypaper Whiskey 23:

"...nights, I'd get drunk at Guapo's and bring a girl back to my CHU. They'd be loaded, sure, but without fail, they'd stumble over to the map on the wall, trace the border with an unsteady finger where the fat red line of ink was supposed to be.
'Where's the Mat,' they'd ask.
'That's a very old map,' I'd say.
I still have that map, rolled up somewhere. You can't buy one anymore, it's an antique. It's like the Mat has been there forever."

Posted by: Zod at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (Bdeb0)

200

Doesn't matter what the "problem" is, the solution is always the same: we must control your lives.

"He can't even run his own life.
I'll be damned if he runs mine."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (HaL55)

201
...
Why the fvck is my tax money being spent on gender equality and empowering women? in other Countries?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (JUOKG)
++++++++++++++
Small change. The government should not be in the "empowerment" business anywhere. The state's goal should not be picking winners and losers.

If they're going to be, I'd almost rather they do it somewhere else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:37 AM (I2dne)

202 193 Not that nuclear power is a bad idea, but THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OIL AND FOSSIL FUELS.

When Cock Curious made it clear in 2008 just how much he was willing to shitcan the entire coal industry it was my first clue into how much he hated the country.
----------------------
That wasn't Cock Curious, that was Tim Steyer who owned Cock Curious.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 10, 2019 11:37 AM (2LelM)

203 190 How many Labatt Blue's have you had sir?
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM (vmAQh)

.....

Come with me sir. Your being charged with D.U.Eh.

Posted by: Canadians Mounted at January 10, 2019 11:37 AM (MuDfX)

204 THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OIL AND FOSSIL FUELS. "

No, but moredenserfuelbettergooder.

or something.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:37 AM (6qErC)

205 We're all missing the boat here. Take a windmill, and have it power a conected deep fryer, Col. Sanders robot, and conveyor system.

Now you got somethin'.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (uLp9h)

206 Can I have my own nuke? Just a small one? Pretty please...
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM


Check out the bars in Groton or Bremerton on a Saturday night, and you should have a selection to choose from.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (DMUuz)

207 Then generate the real electricity with a hidden nuke plant.

Potemkin Power and Light

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (O636P)

208
"We are a 2 fed household and both furloughed (going on 2+ wks now!).

Our agencies protect clean air water for Americans, and promote

gender equality and womens empowerment in developing countries around

the world. We are sad to have our work caught up in this political

stunt."

Why the fvck is my tax money being spent on gender equality and empowering women in other Countries?


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM
*********
And I bet these two live in a McMansion in Chevy Chase or perhaps Tyson's Corner..

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (dvH9o)

209 It's been said many times, but the left doesn't want the masses to have cheap, clean energy, and they don't care about the masses. Their sole goal is the destruction of America.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (eUVat)

210 It's been a while since I've read about him, but this guy, Bjorn Lomborg, had the best response to Al Gore and AGW other chicken littles:


1. OK, let's say climate change is being caused by man: let's make a list of all the possible/probable worldwide threats to humanity and rank them. Things like AIDS, starvation, AGW, etc.

2. Then, let's recognize that we can't afford to address all of them and decide: what is the best use of our money to try to stop/fix?

The Left always talks about their issues as standalone issues so that they never have to make the tough decision: do we spend our money on X, Y, or Z? They always pretend they can spend magical, unlimited funds on X, Y, and Z, and also A-W, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (W+vEI)

211 >>We are a 2 fed household and both furloughed (going on 2+ wks now!)."


Too bad.

Maybe try getting a job in the Private Sector, next time.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (9gmA7)

212 Why the fvck is my tax money being spent on gender equality and empowering women in other Countries?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:33 AM (JUOKG)



If we could just export our leftist dykes to the Muslim world, permanently.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (ujg0T)

213 I saw this tweet in a cnbc article on how the furloughed Fed workers are hurting:

Think of all the industries shut down in the ten richest counties in America. Oh, that's right, there is no industry! They produce nothing!

The rest of us have been in and out of work since the 1980's. Trust us, Feds, you'll survive, especially now that there are actual jobs to be had.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (Ry8mf)

214
Does anyone find any parallels between the admirers of China today and the admirers of Italian Syndicalism of the 1930's? Beating the Depression, making the trains run on time and all that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon


Japan was going to take over the world 35 years ago.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2019 11:39 AM (aKsyK)

215 Only because they have, save VDH, eight digit contracts going in the other direction.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:23 AM (MuDfX)

---------

I'm certain that, over the years, the GOP has offered Rush and Hannity all kinds of things to make a few "compromises." They always stuck to their audience, and I believe they believe the things they're saying.

Say what you will about Hannity, but he's no pushover. And he hasn't been afraid to stand up to the Murdochs in the Trump era, even though it means he might lose his TV show at some point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:39 AM (AzW6q)

216 We're all missing the boat here. Take a windmill, and have it power a conected deep fryer, Col. Sanders robot, and conveyor system.

Now you got somethin'.
Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM

I was thinking brewery.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 10, 2019 11:39 AM (vmAQh)

217 A comprehensive design effort (on the order of The Manhattan Project)
to create easily manufactured modern nuclear power plants that can be
built quickly and with existing manufacturing infrastructure.


We have had that for at least 40 years. The biggest problem has been so-called Green Commies like the NY/Long Island Loon who have litigated construction to death. And this created endless serial halts in construction and when you are dealing with billion dollar loans this raises the construction costs to an amount that can not be supported.

And who created this ability to easily sue and stop construction. The one and the same communists who oppose Nuclear Power.



Posted by: Vic at January 10, 2019 11:39 AM (mpXpK)

218 the one problem with nuclear power stations is terrorism"

See, that's the other plus for the general "small modular" types - a complete and utter failure would expose areas measured in square yards.

But the average person hears "nucular" and goes, well...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:39 AM (6qErC)

219 That's the least of it. Modern civilization is based on two key foundation stones: refrigeration and clean water. Both of these require gobs of stable energy. Your iPhone is probably near the bottom of your worries list if the refrigerators and water treatment plants keep going out...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:32 AM (I2dne)

"What do yo mean bottom of my priorities? How do you expect me to find and get to clean water and refrigeration if I don't have google/phone GPS, hmmm?"
-Millennials

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:40 AM (KUaJL)

220 furloughed Fed workers are hurting:

Notice how my life hasn't been impacted at all? It wasn't 100% effective to pay you.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2019 11:40 AM (Ry8mf)

221 The Green New Deal = The Five Year Plan, in other words don't pay attention to pesky little things like physics or real economics - just get to work serf.

Posted by: rammajamma at January 10, 2019 11:40 AM (AjNMO)

222 Small change. The government should not be in the
"empowerment" business anywhere. The state's goal should not be picking
winners and losers.



If they're going to be, I'd almost rather they do it somewhere else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:37 AM
************
Exactly. Thanks to the Constitution, empowerment is already in place. Now it is a matter of ensuring equality under the law. Go get empowered on your own.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (dvH9o)

223 Which is retarded. We don't need less dams. We need better dams. And more impoundments.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:08 AM (9gmA7)



You no like salmon and other anadromous fishies?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (fuK7c)

224 China's economy is starting to fail.

That assumes that it was successful before. All we have for that is their word that it was.

Posted by: Vic at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (mpXpK)

225 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:39 AM (AzW6q)

....

Agreed.

In general, though, greed makes cowards of us all.

Posted by: Canadians Mounted at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (MuDfX)

226 211 >>We are a 2 fed household and both furloughed (going on 2+ wks now!)."

Too bad.

Maybe try getting a job in the Private Sector, next time.
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (9gmA7)



As much as we like to bash "Civil Cervix" workers, again, the blame for their plight should be focused upon Smarmy Schumer and Pinko Peelousy. THEY are the reason the bureaucrats are being laid off. Heck, Trump would probably have *more* bureaucrats working in the Border Patrol and ICE.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (ujg0T)

227 It's been a while since I've read about him, but this guy, Bjorn Lomborg, had the best response to Al Gore and AGW other chicken littles:
...
Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (W+vEI)
++++++++++++
He also made the point that we could save far more polar bears (polar bear risk being a common meme among the AGW crowd) far more cheaply by instituting big programs to destroy poaching than we could through a bunch of vague AGW reversal proposals. The moment he did that, he became worse than Hitler.

Lomborg committed the cardinal sin: being a reasonable liberal (and probably not a leftist). You must never - EVER - perform a cost/benefit analysis. Never.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (I2dne)

228 Some excerpts from Pompeo's speech in Cairo today:

"It was here, in this city, another American stood before you and told you that radical Islamist terrorism does not stem from ideology. He told you that 9/11 led my country to abandon its ideals, particularly in the Middle East. He told you that the United States and the Muslim world needed a new beginning. The results of these misjudgments have been dire."

"The good news is this: The age of self-inflicted American shame is over, and so are the policies that produced so much needless suffering. "

BOOM! 💣

Did you hear that, Barry?

Posted by: IrishEi at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (NtglE)

229 The Green New Deal seems a little red...

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (jzKzX)

230 Damn it. Off Dudley Dooright sock.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:42 AM (MuDfX)

231 If windmills were the solution, every rancher I know would repair their non-functioning windmills.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:42 AM (9gmA7)

232 Posted by: Zod at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (Bdeb0)

I have no idea what you're doing but keep doing it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy axe handles at January 10, 2019 11:42 AM (xJa6I)

233 The world is rapidly moving away from centralized power generation and toward power generation at the spot of demand for all energy production. There will still be a need for centralized power generation but in smaller amounts.

Wind and solar make sense in this environment in conjunction with traditional generation including nuclear. There is no one size fits all solution. Everything should be on the table.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2019 11:42 AM (/tuJf)

234
It's been said many times, but the left doesn't want the masses to have cheap, clean energy, and they don't care about the masses. Their sole goal is the destruction of America.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm


Back when cold fusion was touted as an up and coming thing I read an article by some leftist who said that cheap energy would be like giving a child a machine gun. We couldn't handle it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2019 11:42 AM (aKsyK)

235 182 I think the problem (such as it is) with hydro at this point is that we've used up most of the good sites for it. Hydro is awesome, but there are a lot of requirements and you can only build so many.

just think how much power we could generate if we used a space elevator to hoist a lake into geosynchronous orbit, then let it run back down a pipe through a big generator.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 10, 2019 11:43 AM (xGZ+b)

236 228 Some excerpts from Pompeo's speech in Cairo today:

"It was here, in this city, another American stood before you and told you that radical Islamist terrorism does not stem from ideology. He told you that 9/11 led my country to abandon its ideals, particularly in the Middle East. He told you that the United States and the Muslim world needed a new beginning. The results of these misjudgments have been dire."

"The good news is this: The age of self-inflicted American shame is over, and so are the policies that produced so much needless suffering. "

BOOM!

Did you hear that, Barry?
Posted by: IrishEi at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (NtglE)
--------

No pulling punches there.

Posted by: WisRich at January 10, 2019 11:43 AM (G0vdT)

237 Then generate the real electricity with a hidden nuke plant."

Ah - the Spanish "solar cells" w/spotlights move.


Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:43 AM (6qErC)

238 Here's more about Bjorn. The guy has the right approach:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjørn_Lomborg

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2019 11:43 AM (W+vEI)

239 Police in Canada can now demand breath samples in bars, at home

Regulated prohibition. This is what the MADD assholes have been wanting for a long time. It has nothing to do with DUI.

Posted by: Vic at January 10, 2019 11:43 AM (mpXpK)

240 Think of all the industries shut down in the ten richest counties in America. Oh, that's right, there is no industry! They produce nothing!
...
Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2019 11:38 AM (Ry8mf)
+++++++++++++++++
Not true. They produce folderol in breathtaking quantities and at a nearly inconceivable per-capita rate.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:43 AM (I2dne)

241 In Palms Springs I noticed around 10% of the mills actually turning. The rest just sit there and bake in the sun.

That's because it costs too damn much to fix them.
They will leave them to rot.

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM (88+cf)

242 234 Back when cold fusion was touted as an up and coming thing I read an article by some leftist who said that cheap energy would be like giving a child a machine gun. We couldn't handle it.

indeed. next thing you know, we'd have pod racing. couldn't have that.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM (xGZ+b)

243 >>As much as we like to bash "Civil Cervix" workers, again, the blame for their plight should be focused upon Smarmy Schumer and Pinko Peelousy. THEY are the reason the bureaucrats are being laid off. Heck, Trump would probably have *more* bureaucrats working in the Border Patrol and ICE.


Fuck them anyway.

The BEST part of this shutdown is that the Dems no longer have checks coming into their coffers directly from the Federal Employee Unions.

I could care less if they ever open up the Government, again.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM (9gmA7)

244 just think how much power we could generate if we used a space elevator to hoist a lake into geosynchronous orbit, then let it run back down a pipe through a big generator.
Posted by: Anachronda



**scribbles furious notes on patent application**

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM (wW03z)

245 It's not fair! Back during the Endless Obama Recession and Financial Crisis who kept regulating? We did! We administered the thankless programs that kept you on unemployment and retraining.

Posted by: Furloughed Fed Workers at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM (xSo9G)

246

Pompeo is truly Pompei, and Trump is Caesar.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM (UbFs9)

247 You no like salmon and other anadromous fishies?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (fuK7c)


Love 'em ... especially grilled. I'll run a power line to the Salmon Prep Station off my Bald Eagle Automated Deep Frying Windmill.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM (uLp9h)

248

And the rest of the Republicans are all Brutuses.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (UbFs9)

249 The world is rapidly moving away from centralized power generation and toward power generation at the spot of demand for all energy production. "

Again, not enough opportunities for graft.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (6qErC)

250 You no like salmon and other anadromous fishies?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (fuK7c)



"Fish ladders" are good exercise!

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (ujg0T)

251 BOOM!

Did you hear that, Barry?
Posted by: IrishEi at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (NtglE)
++++++++++++
Dayum.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (I2dne)

252 as someone here who's much smarter and better looking than me once said, I'll start believing global warming is a problem, when the people telling me it's a problem start acting like it's a problem...

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 10, 2019 11:35 AM


Or even modifying one single building code to reflect global warming. There's specific regulations for cement footings for instance. In my area it may be 48" for example. You can't change that to 47" because of global warming? Let the developer save a few bucks? Spare some cement from being needlessly wasted?

They don't because they know it's bullshit. We used more CO2 last year then the year before, a big part of it was because we had a nasty winter.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (jYje5)

253 We are a 2 fed household and both furloughed (going on 2+ wks now!).

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not losing a single penny, right? You'll get one big-ass check at the end of all this for not doing a single thing to earn it, right?

If you aren't required to show up at work on snow days, you shouldn't be a full time federal employee with benefits.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (LX21o)

254 Back when cold fusion was touted as an up and coming thing I read an article by some leftist who said that cheap energy would be like giving a child a machine gun. We couldn't handle it.

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Sorry that you suck as a parent, but I intend to teach my children proper trigger discipline.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (KUaJL)

255 [China has built its rise on its heralded 'managed economy.' Even the American left has become enamored of its decades-long success.]

China's "decades-long success" is built on their willingness to take on the polluting industries that have been driven out of the West by extreme environmental regulations.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (O7MnT)

256 Talk about terrorism threat, is Yucca Mountain still closed?

Why yes it still is though Trump is trying to restart it.

Which means every nuclear plant across the US is still storing on site radioactive waste. Now imagine the security cost for guarding all those sites.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (O636P)

257 US nukes are pretty irrelevant to Russia's exports. US power uses virtually no liquid fuels (which is truly internationally priced), and the fossil we use for power is nat gas and coal. Coal mining dramatically dropped off as coal plants shut with nat gas price declines, they did not (by and large) go into increased exports. US domestic nat gas prices are effectively irrelevant to international (LNG, Russian exports to Europe) nat gas pricing. We have a tiny bit of liquification and gasification capability, but it is small enough to be completely irrelevant.

Note: This does not mean small modular nukes are a bad idea. It just means this isn't a reason for them.

Not that when people talk about small modular nukes, they're generally talking about 'nukes aboard subs' scale, which is sub 100MW or smaller. If you build 200 of them....you might, just barely, offset some of the recent and coming nuclear retirements (often 1000 (one unit) to 4000 (4 unit) scale plants. You would have to build thousands of them, which is the point of modularization. 200 is noise in a system as large as the US power grid.

Posted by: Rather Not at January 10, 2019 11:45 AM (oPogG)

258 This is what the MADD assholes have been wanting for a long time. It has nothing to do with DUI.

.....

You can't say that.

Someone will pop up and say they had a loved one killed by a drunk driver and that trumps all logic and debate.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (MuDfX)

259 9
France has had a modular nuclear reactor design for decades. US has been into custom building plants.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:01 AM (O636P)


No, The NRC has regulated the US into custom building Nukes through ever changing regulations, including back-fitting plant that have already been built.

Posted by: Vic at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (mpXpK)

260

Why do you assume it's either / or? As I said originally, it's the
long-term solution. In the meantime, I'm all in favor or nuclear.


The short-term benefits are all with nuclear. And TBH, I don't think space-based beaming of energy will work. Not a dig at you personally, but I just can't see any point in doing any research into bombarding us with radiation. It's just not safe. We already have very efficient ways to generate energy, what we really need is to start getting rid of imbecile politicians who refuse to allow us to develop them for a growing world.
If a politician says he or she believes in man-caused climate change, that should be an instant dis-qualifier for any office. This bullshit has gone on way too long. The Progs have been trying to scare us into submission with climate fear for over years now and not one of their predictions has come to pass. Not. One.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (HaL55)

261 Three days without Ginsburg showing up for SCOTUS oral arguments. Imagine if Hillary was President and it was Alito or Thomas who was missing... There would be nonstop coverage by the Corrupt Media, demands and concerns, concerns and demands...

Posted by: Secret Justice at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (uloIh)

262 >>You no like salmon and other anadromous fishies?


I do.

But the majority of the Wild ones have been gone for decades. Not endangered. Gone.

...and we can solve that problem without removing the dams. The majority of dam removals are nothing but virtue signaling.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (9gmA7)

263 Back when cold fusion was touted as an up and coming
thing I read an article by some leftist who said that cheap energy
would be like giving a child a machine gun. We couldn't handle it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2019 11:42 AM

**********
Cold Fusion...sumpin...sumpin..Movie...sumpin...sumpin...Elisabeth Shue.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (dvH9o)

264 Pompeo just went Chuck Norris on Bathhouse.

Posted by: rammajamma at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (AjNMO)

265 Despite winning electoral office, Pompeo lacks the political gene. I can't see him kissing babies and telling everyone how great they are, and how wonderful it is to meet them. Aside from that, he's my ideal candidate. Sharp as a razor and no nonsense.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (wW03z)

266 241 In Palms Springs I noticed around 10% of the mills actually turning. The rest just sit there and bake in the sun.

That's because it costs too damn much to fix them.
They will leave them to rot.

And what an eye sore they are, same can be said for the Ivanpah solar plant outside of vegas.

Posted by: DXO at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (nzKWW)

267 Take off eh, hoser! There's nobody home!

*hic* *shart* *cackle*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 10, 2019 11:47 AM (2Mnv1)

268 At least with Electric Boat, you'll get some extra EBG (Electric Boat Green, the best 'duct tape' in the galaxy) to go with the deal.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (DMUuz)

If you're doing a refit at Newport News, you can get anything...maybe a nuke....for coffee.

Posted by: BignJames at January 10, 2019 11:47 AM (cxHbL)

269 If you let Electric Boat or Newport News Shipbuilding have the contract to build a new Nuke plant it will have cost overruns of about $100 BILLION and take 10 years longer than contracted to build.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:31 AM (JUOKG)


Okay - I won't be sarcastic. The last presentation by DTE Electric I was at on nuclear plants I was told the company had applied for a license to build "just in case". Further, work was progressing on selecting designs for future commercial reactors and that Westinghouse had two, Mitsubishi had one and a French company another. The idea was, in the event of construction, to use the same designs to speed construction and reduce the costs of running and training personnel. The current US nuclear fleet mostly consists of one-off designs making the training of personnel much more costly than otherwise.

The idea that we no longer have the know-how to build a nuclear plant is bonkers when you consider we built the first one with no know-how at all. I know the Horde tends towards the depressive in life, but really!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Clearance at the Outrage Outlet! All Despair, Gloom 50% Off! at January 10, 2019 11:47 AM (hLRSq)

270 just think how much power we could generate if we used a space elevator to hoist a lake into geosynchronous orbit, then let it run back down a pipe through a big generator.
Posted by: Anachronda at January 10, 2019 11:43 AM (xGZ+b)
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I am very glad this isn't a lefty blog, or this would become the next big headache like the "150 MPG carburetor" thing.

No joke: I saw a lengthy thread once on such a blog about how the solution to transportation energy was a small windmill on the roof of an electric car. Use the battery to get up to speed, then let the wind turbine continue pushing the car along and get unlimited range.

Thermodynamics! How does it work?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:47 AM (I2dne)

271 article by some leftist who said that cheap energy would be like giving a child a machine gun"

Alleged to Paul Ehrlich.

Yeah, him.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:47 AM (6qErC)

272 Besides, if you want to help the Salmon you need to start killing the Marine Mammals and canceling treaties with the Natives.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:47 AM (9gmA7)

273 11
The first thing you need to do is build a US Navy style Nuclear Power School.



One that treats running reactors as a TRADE, not a College Degree.



Entrance requirements would have to stay high, and it would have to be based on pure merit, not PC or ethnic politics...



Which is the part that of course, makes it impossible to do outside the military.

Posted by: Don Q at January 10, 2019 11:02 AM (NgKpN)

The existing training departments at the Nuclear Plants are 1000x better than the USN Nuke Schools.

Posted by: Vic at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (mpXpK)

274 Someone will pop up and say they had a loved one killed by a drunk driver and that trumps all logic and debate.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:46 AM (MuDfX)

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MADD is Carrie Nation waving a bloody shirt. And I would never drive drunk, I think it's terrible, and people deserve to lose their licenses when it happens.

But I also know a pack of meddlesome scolds with a power-agenda when they're shrieking at me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (AzW6q)

275 Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM

youtube has video of wind turbines with transmission fires, or brake fires, or blades freewheeling in high winds to the point of disintegration.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (kJWoP)

276 233 The world is rapidly moving away from centralized power generation and toward power generation at the spot of demand for all energy production. There will still be a need for centralized power generation but in smaller amounts.

Wind and solar make sense in this environment in conjunction with traditional generation including nuclear. There is no one size fits all solution. Everything should be on the table.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2019 11:42 AM (/tuJf)



Except when it isn't. At night, where power demands are lower, Northwest Columbia River hydro dams running 24/7 send power over a thousand miles away to the Southwest cities. Ditto for nuclear power stations. The advantage of a "Grid" in such situations is undeniable.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (ujg0T)

277 What if we were to build an elevated platform, say about 1 meter wide, and 700 kilometers long. Maybe 18 meters tall.

And use the platform to elevate and mount a continuous line of wind turbines to catch the air currents.

Maybe somewhere in the south.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (cqNba)

278 WaPo "journalist" Elise Viebeck describes the carnage wrought by the shutdown:

Elise Viebeck
@eliseviebeck
In a cab en route to the Capitol. The driver, like every driver this week, says the shutdown has devastated business. She tears up talking about it. "We are poor people. They are killing us."

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Who knew cabbies were such crybabies?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (+y/Ru)

279 228, BOOM!

Did you hear that, Barry?
Posted by: IrishEi at January 10, 2019 11:41 AM (NtglE)

Oh...oh my...

Posted by: IC at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (a0IVu)

280 Climbing those windmills ain't exactly for the Wichita Lineman type - full on special skills and training and then you have to fix stuff hanging on at 200'. Of course it will work!

Posted by: rammajamma at January 10, 2019 11:49 AM (AjNMO)

281 Thermodynamics! How does it work?"

Rayciss and gynocentricism. Therefore, irrelevant to the New Soviet Xer. Or Xim.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:49 AM (6qErC)

282 Re: nuclear waste... keep in mind that the US built breeder reactors specifically to have weapons grade plutonium.

Plants don't have to be breeders.

Posted by: MarkY at January 10, 2019 11:49 AM (i022r)

283 Flypaper Whiskey 23:

"...nights, you could sit up on the bluffs past the flight line and look down at the Mat. Early on, they added a phosphorescent to the glue-spray, so night-flyers could see stretches that had already been sprayed. Eerie, like a fat bioluminescent snake stretched out. Then you'd hear the Cessna, that low, warm prop-hum, and you'd see greenish mist falling, as if from mid-dark-sky, in a gentle fog that settled on the ground. Old hands got tired of the view, but I never did; it was reliable, and beautiful in its own way, and I rarely missed a night that I wasn't flying."

Posted by: Zod at January 10, 2019 11:49 AM (Bdeb0)

284 WaPo "journalist" Elise Viebeck describes the carnage wrought by the shutdown:

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They have to keep writing stories about it or 99.9% of the population would forget it was happening.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at January 10, 2019 11:49 AM (LX21o)

285 NOOD, pompeo in cairo

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2019 11:50 AM (d7Ww2)

286 Windmills and hydro. And horse-drawn carriages. And wood fires. Sailing vessels. What else did we use before oil and electricity? Just trying to Think Forward here.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2019 11:50 AM (IMdOQ)

287 Ehrlich is much like Krugmann, never right.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:50 AM (O636P)

288 I saw a lengthy thread once on such a blog about how the solution to transportation energy was a small windmill on the roof of an electric car.

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Oh, dear.

And this was typed by people on computers. Medieval superstition in the space age. Technological barbarism.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 10, 2019 11:50 AM (AzW6q)

289 hat if we were to build an elevated platform, say about 1 meter wide, and 700 kilometers long. Maybe 18 meters tall.

And use the platform to elevate and mount a continuous line of wind turbines to catch the air currents.

Maybe somewhere in the south.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (cqNba)

Slap solar panels on it, and I think you're on to something.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2019 11:50 AM (KUaJL)

290 t-bird: whale oil

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 10, 2019 11:50 AM (O636P)

291 Space based solar is the long term solution to energy. The only reason
it isn't being pusher harder now is that the technologically illiterate
fear a giant death ray from space directed at earth.


It's diffuse.
It's in space.
It's a giant death ray.

Posted by: DaveA at January 10, 2019 11:50 AM (FhXTo)

292 But I also know a pack of meddlesome scolds with a power-agenda when they're shrieking at me."

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 10, 2019 11:50 AM (6qErC)

293 243 >>"As much as we like to bash "Civil Cervix" workers, again, the blame for their plight should be focused upon Smarmy Schumer and Pinko Peelousy. THEY are the reason the bureaucrats are being laid off. Heck, Trump would probably have *more* bureaucrats working in the Border Patrol and ICE."

Fuck them anyway.

The BEST part of this shutdown is that the Dems no longer have checks coming into their coffers directly from the Federal Employee Unions.

I could care less if they ever open up the Government, again.
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM (9gmA7)



Don't repeat the mistake of the Gingrich Rebels "Pickett's Charge" of 1995.

Again, Trump should stay on focus. The blame for the plight of the federal workers is solely on Smarmy and Peelousy. That point must be hammered home.

Your delight at certain bureaucrats suffering is, as the character Hannibal Lecter put it, "In-cidental".

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:51 AM (ujg0T)

294 199 Flypaper Whiskey 23:

Posted by: Zod at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM (Bdeb0)

Sorry, but this just makes me keep hearing that damned Brothers Johnson song that I hate so much...

Posted by: Hikaru at January 10, 2019 11:51 AM (UnA8+)

295 China will fail.

1. It created a huge manpower pool by aborting almost all female babies for 40 years, leading to 119 males for every 100 females. Moat of that manpower pool is already too old to be turned into an Empire-creating army. If it doesn't try to take over the world within about 10 years, it will not have the manpower to do so, ever.

2. It's propped up its economy for 20 years by building enormous empty cities that, because it killed so many of its female babies, will never have families living in them.

China is a house of cards, albeit a dangerous one. I can see its leadership deciding to go for it before it's too late. Watch out Taiwan, and perhaps even Russia.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 10, 2019 11:51 AM (7cCNF)

296 Fuck them anyway.



The BEST part of this shutdown is that the Dems no longer have
checks coming into their coffers directly from the Federal Employee
Unions.



I could care less if they ever open up the Government, again.


Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2019 11:44 AM

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Federal Government unions don't have automatic union dues deductions. It's an opt-in system and most employees in a bargaining unit chose not to "donate". The unions constantly bitch about it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 10, 2019 11:52 AM (JUOKG)

297 @eliseviebeck
In a cab en route to the Capitol. The driver, like every driver this week, says the shutdown has devastated business. She tears up talking about it. "We are poor people. They are killing us."
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And how much interaction with foreigners or out-of-towners has been curtailed? I imagine the cab business has little to do with the locals (they probably drive or commute on public transit like everyone else does everywhere else), so the government equivalent of "business travel" is probably much more important. How much of that is still going on? I honestly don't know.

Besides, I thought Uber and the Millenials were killing cab drivers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2019 11:52 AM (I2dne)

298 STARBOARD!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2019 11:03 AM (d7Ww2)


PORT!!!!

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 10, 2019 11:52 AM (8D42x)

299 Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 10, 2019 11:36 AM

youtube has video of wind turbines with transmission fires, or brake fires, or blades freewheeling in high winds to the point of disintegration.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse



Disintegration is almost a beautiful sight.
Much like splitting the atom.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:52 AM (EMrMF)

300 "Maybe we could also begin to retire some hydro-electric systems and return those canyons and valleys to their former beauty (Hetch Hetchy comes to mind)."

They provide a lot more than electricity. Dams are also flood control and reservoirs for irrigation and drinking water. Hetch Hetchy particularly is a massive source of clean drinking water.

Not to mention you dont just blow up a dam, unless you want to destroy a massive amount of area downstream. Draining and removing a dam could easily cost into the billions.

And on top of all that, The federal government already owns a huge percentage of CA and every other western state. The last thing CA needs is more "preserved" land.

Posted by: Sjg at January 10, 2019 11:53 AM (gDSJf)

301 The majority of dam removals are nothing but virtue signaling.


Not in the Northeast. Of course, we're not removing Hydro dams, we're removing old impoundments and mill dams and such.

Dead rivers are coming back to life. The spawning range of anadromous fish is extending. The mostly extincted sea-run brook trout is maybe reappearing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 10, 2019 11:54 AM (fuK7c)

302
Bewbs are free energy. I don't understand why science finds this so hard. They should be unshackled.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2019 11:55 AM (r+sAi)

303 Please go drive up Tehachapi pass in California.

Altamont Pass, too. Just piles of junk and every third windmill that's standing isn't turning, for some reason.
Posted by: t-bird


IH-35 between Ardmore,Oklahoma and Oklahoma City.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2019 11:30 AM (EMrMF)


Plus the eye sores in between Watonga and Woodward. Beautiful prairie landscapes fucked up by aging, useless monstrosities that were built on a hoax and unfulfilled promises.

Posted by: Sooner at January 10, 2019 11:55 AM (Fs5vw)

304 Speaking of Canadians and alcohol...

A baby seal wanders into a bar.

The bartender says "What'll it be, pal?"

The seal replies "Anything but a Canadian Club on the rocks."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 10, 2019 11:55 AM (MuDfX)

305 The left opposes nuclear power, because it will result in multiple Chernobyls and Fukushimas, and because there is nowhere to safely put the nuclear waste material - see the fight over Yucca Flats in Nevada.

Plus, Macron in France is closing nuclear plants.
And here in New York, son of Mario is closing Indian Point.
Thus, the left says nuclear power is dirty power.

Posted by: mercenary13 at January 10, 2019 11:56 AM (2XQ0T)

306 cost-superior energy-dense fuels

There's enough hydrocarbons to get the human race to LFTR's with enough left over to power those until we have fusion.

There isn't enough to do it twice.

Posted by: DaveA at January 10, 2019 11:56 AM (FhXTo)

307 Item #1: It's in the works. The US Army wants micro-reactors - less than 25 MWe. They need portable power to run all their electronics. They have six companies interested in making this happen, including Westinghouse, who is designing a reactor with Los Alamos that fits on a truck. The DOE just got Centrus to reconfigure centrifuges to make High Assay Low Enriched Uranium (HALEU) up to 19.75% U-235. It's really happening. Thank you, DoD.


Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at January 10, 2019 11:57 AM (UBE50)

308 We are a 2 fed household and both furloughed (going on 2+ wks now!)

Would this include the FBI staff that ignored multiple warnings about the shooter in FL? Thew one that murdered 17 people and no one at the FBI has gone to jail?

Please say yes.

Posted by: Families of 17 dead in Parkland FL at January 10, 2019 11:57 AM (Z04f8)

309 278 WaPo "journalist" Elise Viebeck describes the carnage wrought by the shutdown:

Elise Viebeck
@eliseviebeck
In a cab en route to the Capitol. The driver, like every driver this week, says the shutdown has devastated business. She tears up talking about it. "We are poor people. They are killing us."

-
Who knew cabbies were such crybabies?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 10, 2019 11:48 AM (+y/Ru)



Hey, cabbies are trying to earn money too. For them, this loss of bureaucrat passengers is indeed real, and unlike the bureaucrats, they aren't getting comped at the end when this is all over.

Again, the plight of the cabbies is due to Smarmy Schumer, Pinko Peelousy, and the other border traitors. We must hammer this point home. Those of you on Twitter, go reply to Elise Viebeck accordingly.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 11:57 AM (ujg0T)

310 31 "Restore Hetch Hetchy".

Good to know. Credibility destroyed. Jesus.
Posted by: nip
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Works for me. Make San Fran build desalinization plants to get their fresh water.

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56 I'll bet Eric Swallwell hasn't fully investigated the potential of perpetual motion technology. Unlimited energy at zero cost. This is something that the feds should be investing in big time.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
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I wonder if he's going to go for the cat/buttered toast apparatus.
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Nobody has mentioned that the Watermelon New Deal (it ain't green) is going to cost more than the entire annual GDP of the US. I wonder how many nuclear plants can be built with $13 Trillion.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at January 10, 2019 11:57 AM (ecadB)

311 Besides, if you want to help the Salmon you need to start killing the Marine Mammals and canceling treaties with the Natives.


Oh, dude. I am sooo in favor of killing marine mammals.

Seals are ruining Cape Cod. Twenty years ago there were two small colonies, maybe a hundred animals in each, and they were cute and novel enough that a seal watching business erupted.

Now there are tens of thousands like a picket line in the surf harassing my beloved striped bass.

They've attracted Great Whites, but we need more. We need Eskimos, Canadians, and Orcas.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 10, 2019 12:00 PM (fuK7c)

312 Not in the Northeast. Of course, we're not removing Hydro dams, we're removing old impoundments and mill dams and such.

Dead rivers are coming back to life. The spawning range of anadromous fish is extending. The mostly extincted sea-run brook trout is maybe reappearing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 10, 2019 11:54 AM


I'd rather eat land-locked striper from a lake. Huge mild tasting striper. They do really really well. So well in some places there are no minimum size requirements. That tells you something.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 10, 2019 12:00 PM (jYje5)

313 Attention 'ettes:

There is a new movement aimed at empowering women to grow out their body hair.

It is called "Januhairy", and intended to be an annual event.

Januhairy was started by Laura Jackson, a drama student at the University of Exeter in the U.K., after she noticed a difference in how she felt, after she grew out her body hair for a role.

Posted by: Moron News YOU Can Use at January 10, 2019 12:00 PM (DMUuz)

314 Think about what we've talked about concerning energy on this thread, and then think about what would be happening if the Hildebeast were prez.

Posted by: Sooner at January 10, 2019 12:02 PM (Fs5vw)

315 313 Attention 'ettes:

There is a new movement aimed at empowering women to grow out their body hair.

It is called "Januhairy", and intended to be an annual event.

Januhairy was started by Laura Jackson, a drama student at the University of Exeter in the U.K., after she noticed a difference in how she felt, after she grew out her body hair for a role.

Posted by: Moron News YOU Can Use at January 10, 2019 12:00 PM (DMUuz)



Heh. I remember when the leftist dykes were extolling the virtues of less bodily hairy women over more bodily hairy and presumably nasty men. We have come full circle.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2019 12:03 PM (ujg0T)

316 Which means every nuclear plant across the US is still storing on site radioactive waste. Now imagine the security cost for guarding all those sites.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at
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They wouldn't happen to have walls (gasp) surrounding those nuclear sites would they?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2019 12:04 PM (fN+Wl)

317 77
How can the Canucks get it so wrong?

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It's Trudeau all the way down.

Posted by: TheHoser at January 10, 2019 12:06 PM (IDjUx)

318 Can I have my own nuke? Just a small one? Pretty please...

Remember what happened when you ran with the scissors?
Same thing only with a mushroom cloud.

Posted by: DaveA at January 10, 2019 12:07 PM (FhXTo)

319
The article I read about the land-locked stripers brought tears to my eyes. Big stripers, some rivaling the size of the ocean dwellers.

I remember the time there was the annual striper migration out of a new jersey river and my dad and I were fishing with live eels and he hooked a monster. Had to be in the forty plus pound range. Boat rod bent in half.

The line snapped. Only time I ever saw my dad that close to crying.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 10, 2019 12:08 PM (jYje5)

320 Posted by: mercenary13 at January 10, 2019 11:56 AM (2XQ0T)

Ah yes, Fukushima. Where a tsunami killed over 15 thousand people.

But all of the focus is on how it exposed a poorly designed backup system which caused a meltdown of a very old reactor which has resulted in no loss of life.

Posted by: Sjg at January 10, 2019 12:13 PM (gDSJf)

321 Oh, I know there are landlocked stripers. I can't imagine they taste as good as real stripers because saltwater fish are always better than freshwater fish.

Also, people have introduced an abomination called wipers, a white bass * striped bass hybrid. They have a regular body and a stunted little hillbilly perch head.

No. Kill the seals. Save the stripers.

Also, I understand your Dad's tears.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 10, 2019 12:13 PM (fuK7c)

322 We financed China's boom with 0% interest rates.

Posted by: Mao Tse tongue at January 10, 2019 12:15 PM (RJNUb)

323 "Green New Deal."

I increasingly think many of our fellow "citizens" do not even think about what is indicated, in concrete reality, by different words, but simply react to the emotional tone of words. Much like dogs.

Except most dogs know what "sit" and "toy" actually mean.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 10, 2019 12:24 PM (koNhm)

324 What needs research is making reliable smaller units.

Power companies made their nukes too big. Trying decrease the foot print actually increases the danger.

Smaller units are more easily controlled, do less damage if they go critical and they can contain that damage with less expense.

Note we have lots of experience from building Subs.

Using smaller units then linking them will also spread out the potential damage and foot print of the spent fuel rods and other waste.

It's not being done for two main reasons; the Gov isn't subsidizing it and the laws need to be changed as to the green interference with nuclear power.

Resolve those two (the 2nd will be the hardest and take the most time) and they then become viable for power companies to build. They could even be owned by local cities and counties just as they own the waste treatment plants and the clean water. Make the problems local and they then become more easily solvable.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 10, 2019 12:27 PM (u+4Rc)

325 Posted by: jakee308 at January 10, 2019 12:27 PM (u+4Rc)

Nuclear power enjoys economies of scale, that's why plants for electricity production are large. The cost per MW goes up for smaller reactors. Plenty of other costs scale up with smaller and more prevalent designs as well. Security costs will drastically increase having a dozen times as many sites to guard. And personnel costs as you will need engineers on site at each reactor.

Smaller plants make sense in naval uses, since it reduces the resupply logistical strain, not so much on land.

Posted by: Sjg at January 10, 2019 12:52 PM (gDSJf)

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