Of Course: Provision to Give Monster Tech Companies Neutral-Platform Immunity Even If They Behave Like Publishers Snuck Into... NAFTA Replacement Trade Bill

Of course.

I want to know which corrupt corporatist Republican on Google's payroll snuck this in.

Less than two weeks ago, President Trump signed the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement intended to be the successor to the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump has attacked for decades. The White House says the agreement will "better serve the interests of American workers and businesses" and "includes the strongest digital trade... provisions of any United States trade agreement."
Unfortunately, an obscure article in one provision of the agreement only serves the interests of the largest tech monopolies by granting them special privilege to censor conservatives. Congress should demand the removal or amendment of this article before giving consent to confirm section 230.
How did this happen? Big Tech lobbyists orchestrated the quiet insertion of a seemingly innocuous provision (Article 19.17) into the deal that is based on Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Section 230, much beloved by big tech, and an essential building block of their monopolistic dominance, holds that platforms like Facebook cannot be held liable as a "publisher or speaker" of their users' content.
...

The law was not intended to permit media platforms from censoring whatever they deemed "objectionable" -- which would be something a publisher does. The law was written to permit the censoring/moderating of objectively objectionable stuff, stuff that could get you in trouble with the law, slander, threats, etc.

But this new language someone snuck into the trade bill changes that.

According to Candeub, these changes will "likely lead courts to interpret it to mean whatever the platforms object to -- which has thus far included the word 'illegal alien,' pro-life advertisements, videos defending 'Israel's Legal Founding,' and President Trump’s own immigration advertisements."
This means courts would likely throw out any action to stop censorship under state law or an executive order, which Trump reportedly wants to issue.

The provision can still be stripped out of the bill -- but I'll bet you any amount of money it won't be. Google employees like Represenative Goodlatte will see to that.

The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:38 PM

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1 Goodlatte can't go away fast enough.

Posted by: pep at December 14, 2018 01:38 PM (TpAxy)

2 ola

Posted by: m at December 14, 2018 01:38 PM (bAsK/)

3 Rats. Willowed!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 14, 2018 01:38 PM (KUaJL)

4 Got to watch those boys like a hawk.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 01:38 PM (hLRSq)

5 I'd bet anything Eric Cantor was involved in the lobbying. Probably Trent Lott as well.

Posted by: pep at December 14, 2018 01:39 PM (TpAxy)

6 I want to be the first to congratulate our Monster Tech overloards.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2018 01:39 PM (xfb67)

7 The Devil is in the details

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 14, 2018 01:40 PM (Wkm6f)

8 I'm sure NRO will post a column condemning this in . . .oh wait, the Google check cleared?
Never mind!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2018 01:40 PM (W+vEI)

9 They are not for us.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 01:40 PM (vDqXW)

10 Has anyone got an actual count on how many rino bastards we have left to purge out of the house and senate?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 14, 2018 01:40 PM (/B2KC)

11 Politicians plus NRO on the take from Google on this issue.

Posted by: GregV61 at December 14, 2018 01:40 PM (FLpne)

12 Well, this item pisses me off.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:41 PM (8iiMU)

13 Trump is for us.

And if the liberals could wedge their heads out of their asses, they would see he's for them too.

But the Republican party plots against us as they farm their political side for cash and votes.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 01:41 PM (vDqXW)

14 So the US has gone all zaibatsu, sepukku is in the future then.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 14, 2018 01:41 PM (Wkm6f)

15 Abolish Google.

Hmm, this feels familiar.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:42 PM (h5Df3)

16 OT b/c Schadenfreude:

"All good things come to an end. And so, after 23 years, does The Weekly Standard. I want to express my gratitude to our readers and my admiration for my colleagues. We worked hard to put out a quality magazine, and we had a good time doing so. And we have much more to do. Onward!"

He meant "Ahoy!"

Posted by: m at December 14, 2018 01:42 PM (bAsK/)

17 United States of Google

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2018 01:42 PM (aKsyK)

18 14 So the US has gone all zaibatsu, sepukku is in the future then.

Also, watsamatayu.

Posted by: pep at December 14, 2018 01:42 PM (TpAxy)

19 Old skool political corruption.

I know the stink well. Hell, the Simpsons knows this stink well. Stupid preverted arts...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:42 PM (bcbK8)

20
All good things come to an end.

And it's the same with the wildwood weed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (aKsyK)

21 One has to wonder if Google issues its employees cute nicknames a la Motley Fool:

Bob "Cubby" Goodlatte
Gerald "Doughnuts" Connolly

Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (Bdeb0)

22 So. . . does this protect them from Backpage, Craigslist type prosecution, too?

Saw speculation that Tumblr's recent "no pr0n" policy wasn't that they recently got morality, but that they wanted to try to prevent prosecution for their platform being used to facilitate illicit activities.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (W+vEI)

23 Eh, I wouldn't be so upset if they could perfect a viable Japanese sexbot.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (RD7QR)

24 18
14 So the US has gone all zaibatsu, sepukku is in the future then.

Also, watsamatayu.

Posted by: pep at December 14, 2018 01:42 PM (TpAxy)

All you honchos are turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (8iiMU)

25 Unbelievable. Just watched "The Creepy Line" last night -- it was, how you say ... creepy. Thanks for the recommendation, Ace.

Posted by: ShainS -- #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (cF3xE)

26 Suckers, you don't even know that the overlords aren't going to follow any "laws" anyway.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (xfb67)

27 Willowed on the last thread.

The NDAs presented to @weeklystandard staffers forbid "disparaging, derogatory, critical, insulting, offensive, deprecating or belittling comment in public or in private"

And that was just referring to talking about dems!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (nAeGR)

28

The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech.

Yep. We the People aren't even a second or third thought to those assholes in Congress. And why should we be? NAFTA stripped millions of us from ever having any income, just like they wanted to happen. Now most of us are in poverty and goddamned close to living on the streets while they get paid millions of dollars and get to live in gated communities with armed guards to keep just as far away from us as possible.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (HaL55)

29 23 Eh, I wouldn't be so upset if they could perfect a viable Japanese sexbot.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (RD7QR)

Define viable.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (h5Df3)

30 >>"All good things come to an end. And so, after 23 years, does The Weekly Standard. I want to express my gratitude to our readers and my admiration for my colleagues. We worked hard to put out a quality magazine, and we had a good time doing so. And we have much more to do. Onward!"

The captain goes down with the ship, Bill. It's The Way.

Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (Bdeb0)

31 "The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech."

This was always a required step in any good cyberpunk distopia.

Like I've said, I just want to make it long enough to get to good quality sexbots before it all crashes and burns.

Or before I do.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (bcbK8)

32 I guess the dystopian Cyberpunk types had it right, they always predicted that big tech would rule the world.

I wonder how long before SCOTUS issues the Shiawase Decision now?

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 01:45 PM (J+mig)

33 29 23 Eh, I wouldn't be so upset if they could perfect a viable Japanese sexbot.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (RD7QR)

Define viable.
Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (h5Df3)

Oh this will get us into trouble.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

34 31 "The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech."

This was always a required step in any good cyberpunk distopia.

Like I've said, I just want to make it long enough to get to good quality sexbots before it all crashes and burns.

Or before I do.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (bcbK

So...Street Samurai? Combat Mage? Rigger?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:45 PM (NWiLs)

35 All good things come to an end.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (aKsyK)
---
Could there be one thread without butt stuff?

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (vDqXW)

36 All good things come to an end.

=====

And it's the same with the wildwood weed.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM

Those were the days, my friend.
We thought they'd never end.

Posted by: Mary Hopkin at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (ctuyM)

37

Sunday
Sunday
Sunday

It's Monster Tech!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (aKsyK)

38 Data is not "tech". This country hasn't developed tech for 20 years.

Posted by: Gonads and Strife at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (smXDp)

39 8 I'm sure NRO will post a column condemning this in . . .oh wait, the Google check cleared?
Never mind!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2018 01:40 PM (W+vEI)

_____

Can't wait to get the Weakly Standard's hot take on this. Oh, wait ...

Posted by: ShainS -- #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (cF3xE)

40 34 31 "The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech."

This was always a required step in any good cyberpunk distopia.

Like I've said, I just want to make it long enough to get to good quality sexbots before it all crashes and burns.

Or before I do.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (bcbK

So...Street Samurai? Combat Mage? Rigger?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:45 PM (NWiLs)

If I don't turn into an orc, like my friends assume I will, I'm getting Chromed. Street Samurai all the way, man.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (bcbK8)

41 10 Has anyone got an actual count on how many rino bastards we have left to purge out of the house and senate?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 14, 2018 01:40 PM (/B2KC)

ALL.
OF.
THEM.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (UnA8+)

42 If I could write, I'd write a letter to my congressman, if he could read.

(He's a D, anyway.)

Bottom line: Trump too has a responsibility to quash this. I back him, but I don't believe Napoleon Is Always Right. Anyone who is at all sound in DC (OK, not too many of them) should be on this.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (VaN/j)

43 If I don't turn into an orc, like my friends assume I will, I'm getting Chromed. Street Samurai all the way, man.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (bcbK

*fistbump*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:47 PM (NWiLs)

44 Eh, I wouldn't be so upset if they could perfect a viable Japanese sexbot.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (RD7QR)

Define viable.
Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (h5Df3)

Oh this will get us into trouble.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

It has to know that a hotdog isn't a sandwich.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 14, 2018 01:47 PM (KUaJL)

45 38 Data is not "tech". This country hasn't developed tech for 20 years.
Posted by: Gonads and Strife at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (smXDp)

MIT
Boston Dynamics
Hell, even MSFT Research

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:47 PM (bcbK8)

46 All you honchos are turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM

You really think so?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2018 01:47 PM (p+Wdc)

47 So...Street Samurai? Combat Mage? Rigger?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:45 PM (NWiLs)

Used to play a rigger that could moonlight as a weapons specialist. Good fun.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 01:47 PM (J+mig)

48 The captain goes down with the ship, Bill. It's The Way.
Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (Bdeb0)

I wouldn't worry about Bill. Why, he's already had an offer to be a fluffer on the newest Stormy Daniels web video.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (3sjI6)

49 >>31 "The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech."

...with electrolytes.

Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (Bdeb0)

50 I'd bet anything Eric Cantor was involved in the lobbying. Probably Trent Lott as well.
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2018 01:39 PM (TpAxy)

Forrest Gump Cantor getting smoked in the primary was probably the last bit of good news we're likely to ever get out of ~~South Maryland~~ Virginia.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (y7DUB)

51 Speaking of which, anyone see Scott Adams Google rant?

They tweaked the search results so that faked pics of him as a Nazi came back as the 4th and 5th results. Looks like they've fixed it, but this is exactly the kind of BS they should NOT be protected from. Someone like Adams should be able to take legal action when they intentionally target someone as a Nazi, etc. like that.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (W+vEI)

52 I just love how these things "sneak" into final bills without anybody noticing something is up.

Bought and paid for treasonous traitors are what "rules" over us.

Val Jar accidentally or not spoke the truth, Barky was ready to rule over us the same way all the rest of them do.

*spit*

Posted by: Boots at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (e9omi)

53 "The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech."

More than 10 megabytes away. Not my problem...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (/9p9e)

54 And it's the same with the wildwood weed.

We just smiled and waved ... sitting on those sacks of cash.

Posted by: Former Nazi Collaborator and Convicted Felon George Soros at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (yQpMk)

55 It's nearly impossible to respond within the confines of Ace's ground rules and the increasingly laughable laws of the land.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (Z0+HO)

56 So does this mean the caravans are going to found Aztechnology now?

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (J+mig)

57 Just remember, nothing that runs on electricity works after the first salvo.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (xfb67)

58 Someone notify Rand Paul. If there's one thing he's good for its drawing attention to things.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (h5Df3)

59 Term. Fucking. Limits.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (gA69l)

60 DIGITAL DISPERSAL ORDER

Pursuant to Section 215 of the Hate Crimes Against Tech Act, the above post has been determined to be a tech hate crime and all viewers of this post are hereby ordered to digitally disperse and return to your digital homes.

Digitally move along, now. Nothing to digitally see here.

Posted by: GooMazonCIA HQ at December 14, 2018 01:50 PM (DuAZ5)

61 56 So does this mean the caravans are going to found Aztechnology now?
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (J+mig)

Hey, they invented those racks for storing bleached skulls, what more do you want?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:50 PM (RD7QR)

62 >>Forrest Gump Cantor getting smoked in the primary was probably the last bit of good news we're likely to ever get out of South Maryland Virginia. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (y7DUB)

That cuts like a knife.

Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:50 PM (Bdeb0)

63 48 The captain goes down with the ship, Bill. It's The Way.
Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:44 PM (Bdeb0)

I wouldn't worry about Bill. Why, he's already had an offer to be a fluffer on the newest Stormy Daniels web video.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (3sjI6)
--------------------------------------

One look at him and his job title would change to Anti-Fluffer.

Posted by: Boots at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (e9omi)

64 All you honchos are turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (8iiMU)

I believe there was a music video entitle "Turning Japanese-O" (I think). As I recall, turning Japanese-O meant masturbating. So, you may be right!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (3sjI6)

65 >>>That cuts like a knife.

"We have repeatedly apologized for Bryan Adams, and will do so again!"

Posted by: Canada at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (gA69l)

66 Merry Christmas, Morons!

Scary times we live in.

And now the SJW fascists want Santa to be gender neutral.

So we got that gong for us, too.

Posted by: Juicebox Hero at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (J9wxX)

67 All you honchos are turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

to gen u

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (EdhH3)

68 59 Term. Fucking. Limits.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (gA69l)

Terms paid for by limbs.

You get one free term. You want to be re-elected? You amputate a limb. You want to run again after that? Say goodbye to your other leg.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (UnA8+)

69 64 All you honchos are turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (8iiMU)

No idea what you're talking about, omae.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (J+mig)

70
46
All you honchos are turning Japanese.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian
Galt at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM
You really think so?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2018 01:47 PM (p+Wdc)

"honcho" is actually derived from Japanese.

And, that is an excuse for this:

https://tinyurl.com/y6v3o5us

Kirsten Dunst is turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (8iiMU)

71 >>I wouldn't worry about Bill. Why, he's already had an offer to be a fluffer on the newest Stormy Daniels web video. Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (3sjI6)

With choppers like that? He won't last.

Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (Bdeb0)

72 Sex drones are more likely. A robot controlled by a real person, as opposed to the self-controlled AI like those Boston Dynamics monsters.

The down side is that your sexy robowifu will be maneuvered by a 60 year old Romanian dude.

Posted by: wooga at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (TmsKM)

73 The only way Google, Apple, Twitter, et al will get hit is if people stop using their products. So basically, never.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (gA69l)

74 picky pixy.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (8iiMU)

75 All you honchos are turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (8iiMU)

Nani?!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (KUaJL)

76 Used to play a rigger that could moonlight as a weapons specialist. Good fun.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 01:47 PM (J+mig)

Good stuff. I had a rigger but was usually a Street Sam or a PhysAd. I played one PhysAd and kept him alive long enough he was practically Goku by the time I retired him.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (NWiLs)

77 55 It's nearly impossible to respond within the confines of Ace's ground rules and the increasingly laughable laws of the land.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (Z0+HO)

Pinochet is looking like a better and better option all the time. That's about all I can say.

Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (xjiRE)

78 Merry Christmas, Morons!

Scary times we live in.

And now the SJW fascists want Santa to be gender neutral.

So we got that gong for us, too.
Posted by: Juicebox Hero

F them. That is the hill to die on.

It's Father Christmas. Not "Ru Paul, bitch!"

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (EdhH3)

79 >>>Terms paid for by limbs.

You get one free term. You want to be re-elected? You amputate a limb. You want to run again after that? Say goodbye to your other leg.

BRILLIANT!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 14, 2018 01:53 PM (gA69l)

80

Someone notify Rand Paul. If there's one thing he's good for its drawing attention to things.

Yeah, but that's all that will happen. Nothing and no one ever actually stops any of this shit from happening and it certainly won't this time either.
It's unConstitutional, and therefore illegal as hell. But the Progs want it so they can brainwash the few remaining aware people into voting for their candidates. Nobody's every going to stop this.
Never. We've had it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2018 01:53 PM (HaL55)

81 >>You get one free term. You want to be re-elected? You amputate a limb. You want to run again after that? Say goodbye to your other leg.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (UnA8+)

House full of Bobs.

Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:53 PM (Bdeb0)

82 "Kirsten Dunst is turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (8iiMU) "

I've never liked Dunst and her dumb snaggletooth but her Turning Japanese cover is...strangely erotic.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 01:53 PM (oZ6kz)

83 money talks

Posted by: ACDC at December 14, 2018 01:53 PM (VckGX)

84 62 >>Forrest Gump Cantor getting smoked in the primary was probably the last bit of good news we're likely to ever get out of South Maryland Virginia. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2018 01:48 PM (y7DUB)

That cuts like a knife.
Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:50 PM (Bdeb0)

Yeah, but it feels so right.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:53 PM (NWiLs)

85 72 Sex drones are more likely. A robot controlled by a real person, as opposed to the self-controlled AI like those Boston Dynamics monsters.

The down side is that your sexy robowifu will be maneuvered by a 60 year old Romanian dude.
Posted by: wooga at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (TmsKM)

But who will know my needs better than a man of my own kind?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (RD7QR)

86 57 Just remember, nothing that runs on electricity works after the first salvo.

Steam powered sexbots!

Posted by: wooga at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (TmsKM)

87 You get one free term. You want to be re-elected? You amputate a limb. You want to run again after that? Say goodbye to your other leg.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (UnA8+)

House full of Bobs.
Posted by: Zod

Mat.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (EdhH3)

88 >>>I've never liked Dunst and her dumb snaggletooth but her Turning Japanese cover is...strangely erotic.

Always liked her, and she looks crazy stupid hot in that. But my taste may be awful.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (gA69l)

89 But who will know my needs better than a man of my own kind?
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (RD7QR)

Pretty sure I've heard gay dudes say that

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (KUaJL)

90
I want to know which corrupt corporatist Republican on Google's payroll snuck this in.

Keelhaul the SOB

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (TAmPV)

91 57 Just remember, nothing that runs on electricity works after the first salvo.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (xfb67)

Shoot straight. Conserve ammo. And never, ever, cut a deal with a dragon.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (NWiLs)

92 >>>I want to know which corrupt corporatist Republican on Google's payroll snuck this in.

My guess is... most. Even with Trump, we can't win. The swamp will never be drained because the average American voter is a dolt.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (gA69l)

93 91 57 Just remember, nothing that runs on electricity works after the first salvo.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (xfb67)

Shoot straight. Conserve ammo. And never, ever, cut a deal with a dragon.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (NWiLs)

This is just good advice, right here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (bcbK8)

94 87 You get one free term. You want to be re-elected? You amputate a limb. You want to run again after that? Say goodbye to your other leg.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (UnA8+)

House full of Bobs.
Posted by: Zod

Mat.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (EdhH3)

Art.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (NWiLs)

95 What's wrong with cutting deals with a dragon?

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (h5Df3)

96 I willowed myself in the last thread.

Is the Carpathia going to pick up any survivors of the sinking TWS?

Posted by: mpfs, Merry F'in Christmas at December 14, 2018 01:56 PM (HLjZZ)

97 "The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech."

don't forget the 2Big2Fail/Jail globalist trillionaires and their banks, or the WallSt Hedge Funders (now called banks as well, another bad joke on US). Goldman Sachs has their minions operating at every level ... right in the government, then into the IMF, back to GS ... and they may be the real players behind GOOG/FB and the rest.

Then there is FiveEyes conspiring against Trump, Kerry going to Iran and telling them to "wait out Trump", Podesta types dealing in Russia banking, and Chinese running lose in everything ... using GOOG to grade their citizens and keep them compliant.

MonsterTech is the weapon, in the hands of its creator ??? -- Dr. BigMoney -- and globalists in CFR or other shadow groups, operating hand in glove with our CIA/FBI/MSM/DNC -- and other agencies. New World Order, baby.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2018 01:56 PM (Cus5s)

98 What's wrong with cutting deals with a dragon?
Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (h5Df3)
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Negotiations tend to dragon.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 01:56 PM (vDqXW)

99 Genius son-in-law Kushner negotiated this trade bill.

How about making Mexico stop illegal immigration if they want to be a trading partner?

Or is that too outside the box? yet somehow this shit got snuck in?

Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 01:56 PM (UfkIY)

100 89 But who will know my needs better than a man of my own kind?
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (RD7QR)

Pretty sure I've heard gay dudes say that
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (KUaJL)

Well, it's not like I'm wearing crocs.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 01:56 PM (RD7QR)

101 I want to know which corrupt corporatist Republican on Google's payroll snuck this in.

I'm pretty sure the sponsor will always remain anonymous. Apparently its insertion will have been an act of God.

Posted by: pep at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (TpAxy)

102 Surely just a coincidence but our Justin has close ties to Facebook including the three years ago blowing off a voting meeting of the heads of government at the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact conference to meet with Facebook execs.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (Evws/)

103 95 What's wrong with cutting deals with a dragon?
Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (h5Df3)

They're older than you, thus have centuries of experience in trickery and deceit.

They also think you taste good with ketchup.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (J+mig)

104 Plutocracy.
Sorry Ben, we couldn't keep it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (r+sAi)

105 i remember the good old days when people said,"gm is too big to fail." well, they did. twice. they just have to write the obitchuary this time. one of these tech fuck ups will hire mary barra. guaranteed.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (KP5rU)

106 75 All you honchos are turning Japanese.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 01:43 PM (8iiMU)

Nani?!
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 14, 2018 01:52 PM (KUaJL)

So ka...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (bcbK8)

107 87 You get one free term. You want to be re-elected? You amputate a limb. You want to run again after that? Say goodbye to your other leg.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (UnA8+)
House full of Bobs. Posted by: Zod
Mat. Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 01:54 PM (EdhH3)

"All in favor, raise your...uhh...squirm."

Posted by: Zod at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (Bdeb0)

108 By the way, Eyore, thanks for the info on Buckley.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (vDqXW)

109 95 What's wrong with cutting deals with a dragon?
Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (h5Df3)

Nothing. Nothing at all.

Posted by: Dunkelzahn at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (NWiLs)

110 Dragons are perfectly fine trade partners, as long as you've got a contingency plan for killing them once they turn on you.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (oZ6kz)

111 I've never liked Dunst and her dumb snaggletooth but her Turning Japanese cover is...strangely erotic

Last thing that I saw her in was Interview with the Vampire.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 01:58 PM (EdhH3)

112 10 Has anyone got an actual count on how many rino bastards we have left to purge out of the house and senate?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 14, 2018 01:40 PM (/B2KC)
-------------------------------------
Well, quite a few of them, like Goodlatte, are retiring or lost their re-election bids this year.
Of course, they were replaced by Dems or baby-RINOs.

(I assume, for example, that the nice-looking young fellow replacing Goodlatte will behave GOPe-properly.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2018 01:58 PM (Rxduq)

113 the paul ryan experiment continues to show cuck profit.

The GOP is shivving its base once again.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 14, 2018 01:59 PM (7J5t2)

114 kimodo dragons cannot be trusted, ever. plus, those fuckers are fast.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2018 01:59 PM (KP5rU)

115 BREAKING on CNN: Google to bring Robert Mueller aboard (Ahoy!) as head of their FBI public-private partnership Pre-Crime Division as long as he finishes his Trump and Associates anal probe sometime in the next 20 years. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 14, 2018 01:59 PM (cF3xE)

116 "Last thing that I saw her in was Interview with the Vampire.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 01:58 PM (EdhH3) "

She was scorching hot in that!!

Posted by: John Podesta at December 14, 2018 01:59 PM (oZ6kz)

117 110 Dragons are perfectly fine trade partners, as long as you've got a contingency plan for killing them once they turn on you.
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 01:57 PM (oZ6kz)

Ideally, someone ELSE kills the dragon, while you slink away and count your money.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 02:00 PM (bcbK8)

118 68----Terms paid for by limbs.

You get one free term. You want to be re-elected? You amputate a limb. You want to run again after that? Say goodbye to your other leg.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 01:51 PM (UnA8+)
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Term limbits.
Damn.
Best idea I've heard in ages.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2018 02:01 PM (Rxduq)

119 My blood is boiling after reading this.
Think it's time to call my Rep. & Senators again.

Would someone that is on Twitter tweet this to Laura Ingraham, Tucker, Hannity & Trump so that more people can get enraged and stop this shit.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 14, 2018 02:01 PM (hECVl)

120 Donny Two Scoops needs to start vetoing stuff.
And then making deals, (possibly with Democrats) to get his promises fulfilled.
And if everyone refuses.....let the masks continue to come off, and let Nancy keep the gubmint shut down forever.

The rubber must hit the road. Very soon.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 02:01 PM (8iiMU)

121 "Ideally, someone ELSE kills the dragon, while you slink away and count your money.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 02:00 PM (bcbK

"

Well, if this is DD, you just hire a low level sorcerer, hit them with a Shivering Touch spell, and laugh while you steal their horde and coup de grace them.

If it's anything else...then yeah, you probably don't want to have to 1v1 a dragon.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:01 PM (oZ6kz)

122 Well, if this is DD, you just hire a low level sorcerer, hit them with a Shivering Touch spell, and laugh while you steal their horde and coup de grace them.

If it's anything else...then yeah, you probably don't want to have to 1v1 a dragon.
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter?

**cough**dork**cough**

Posted by: pep at December 14, 2018 02:02 PM (TpAxy)

123 She was scorching hot in that!!

Posted by: John Podesta at December 14, 2018 01:59 PM (oZ6kz)

I'll say!

Posted by: Roman Polanski at December 14, 2018 02:03 PM (8iiMU)

124 "**cough**dork**cough**

Posted by: pep at December 14, 2018 02:02 PM (TpAxy) "

Hey, I'm not the nerd making Shadowrun references!

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:03 PM (oZ6kz)

125 SMOD, Where are you?

Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at December 14, 2018 02:04 PM (vI+F1)

126 What do you have against us komodo dragons, chavez?

We don't bite, I promise.

Muhahaha.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:04 PM (oZ6kz)

127 A Saga Sort of Continues:

Trump sits in the Oval Office talking to the little furry guy.

"This is the deal, and it's a good one. Big John is going to be leaving and I'll need a new chief of staff. Now, I'm going to level with you it can be rough. I'm a man that knows my own mind, but I'm willing to listen to advice. The others - the egos around here would make a Hollywood producer look like a wallflower, and I have known many Hollywood guys. And these cats can be vicious and back-stabby. So you would need an iron will to put people away. You savvy that?"

The Ewok shakes his golden hobo cull and yells "Jub-jub-jub, jubjubjubjub! Jub!" before making a sweeping cut and then mimicking turning a roasting spit and rubbing his belly.

"That's good, you're full of moxie, kid and I like that. You'll start at the New Year. Here's an employee list so you'll know all the names."

The Golden Scalp Weasel paw-bumps with the Ewok as it leaves.

*********************************

In a Chinese restaurant in Maryland Fu Manchu sits in his office dealing with unexpected visitors.

"I already have dishwasher! He's lazy, but I will make him work." He turns to the female "You would scare away the pigeons and that would be bad for bottom line."

"Ppppppppt! Says you President Fillmore!" Nancy replies.

Chuck Schumer soothes Nancy down, giving her a Rubik's Cube to play with.

"Look we need your help. I know the Golden Scalp Weasel is your foe and he is ours. We have control of the House and I am sure I can flip a few more of those imbecile GOPes to give me de facto senate control."

"I have no money to loan to losers." He looks over at Nancy gnawing on the cube. "Or loonies."

"It isn't money - the tech oligarchs have given us free access to their checking accounts and boy howdy! I didn't think that much real money actually existed."

"Moloch!" Nancy interjects.

"No, Nancy - it's moolah. No, we need advice, this is beyond our ken. All of my cunning, my corruption, the three coats of slime I exude everyday - none of this prepared me to handle this sort of emergency. I have been denying it for months, but I am afraid it is true." Chuck leans in closer to Fu Manchu. "I'm afraid Trump means to do exactly what he said he'll do." He says this and looks around in fright, wiping sweat and slime off of his forehead.

Fu Manchu blinks twice, his face stone cold. Finally he asks "And?"

"What do you mean 'And'?"

"Is there more?"

"More? What more could be said?"

"Well, of course he means what he said! He always means things - he boasts but he makes a promise he means to keep it! Why do you think we enemies? He vowed to break China! I'm no commie but I am not seeing the Middle Kingdom torn apart by a bunch of hairy foreign devils!"

"So what do we do? A politician's word is as good as a tissue paper cat in an inferno! If people start expecting us to keep our word the Democrats will be ruined! We can't keep our promises to every identity group out there! We need to break the Golden Scalp Weasel now!"

Fu Manchu strokes his mustache and smiles an evil smile. "Okay. I come up with plan, but first you got to do something for me."

"Deal."

**************************
"Who're you kid?"
"I'm Brad, an intern at CNN, but I needed some money to fix my car or my girlfriend is going to dump me. Who're you?"
"I'm the senate minority leader. Could you pass me those rubber gloves? I don't want dishpan hands."

To be continued......

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 02:04 PM (hLRSq)

128 Hey, I'm not the nerd making Shadowrun references!
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:03 PM (oZ6kz)

But you knew what we were talking about.

One of us! One of us!

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 02:04 PM (J+mig)

129 Ha. Just finished shooting photos of my company's C-Execs receiving an award from a national news magazine for best customer service in our industry.

And Bob Goodlatte sucks on Eric Schmidt's gross old pecker.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:04 PM (AzW6q)

130 We ain't voting our way out of our predicament, OBVIOUSLY.

Time for alternative measures.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (6E5H6)

131 A Plutocracy?

That's just fucking Goofy!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (Evws/)

132 Hey, I'm not the nerd making Shadowrun references!
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:03 PM (oZ6kz)

But you knew they were Shadowrun references nevertheless.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (NWiLs)

133 Dontcha just love the way "our" government works for us?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (z79tQ)

134 92 My guess is... most. Even with Trump, we can't win. The swamp will never be drained because the average American voter is a dolt.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 14, 2018 01:55 PM (gA69l)

Anybody who would want to stop this shit doesn't dare run.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (UnA8+)

135 Abandon Ship!

Posted by: Cap'n Kristol Method at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (2Mnv1)

136 129 Ha. Just finished shooting photos of my company's C-Execs receiving an award from a national news magazine for best customer service in our industry.

And Bob Goodlatte sucks on Eric Schmidt's gross old pecker.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:04 PM (AzW6q)

Ew. Right there in front of everybody?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 02:06 PM (RD7QR)

137 Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 02:06 PM (EdhH3)

138 Ew. Right there in front of everybody?
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 02:06 PM (RD7QR)

-------

He doesn't have to hide who is for you, you bigoted Puritan.

Why do you want to stand in the way of love, joncelli?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:07 PM (AzW6q)

139 I would just like it if half the country (conservatives) got the same sort of basic protection from authorities that a transgender man does that wants to go into a girls bathroom at an Elementary School.

Seriously, if some tranny or Muslim was silenced on Facebook or Google, there would be hell to pay. But us? That technically run federal law enforcement? It's a pipe dream.

Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:07 PM (UfkIY)

140 52 I just love how these things "sneak" into final bills without anybody noticing something is up
_____

Too bad the length of Congressional legislation is not limited to the size of a single tweet.

Posted by: ShainS -- #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 14, 2018 02:07 PM (cF3xE)

141 "But you knew they were Shadowrun references nevertheless.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (NWiLs) "

It's that trivia part of my brain. I just can't help it. I know things, man....things I don't wanna know....

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:07 PM (oZ6kz)

142

EM BINNACLE FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at December 14, 2018 02:08 PM (GEhPL)

143 It's that trivia part of my brain. I just can't help it. I know things, man....things I don't wanna know....
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:07 PM (oZ6kz)

Weak sauce, man.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 02:08 PM (NWiLs)

144 "Weak sauce, man.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 02:08 PM (NWiLs) "

You can laugh because you weren't there. I've seen shit man...C-beams in the dark off the Tannhauser gate....zombie skullfucking Bill Kristol's bloated corpse...and it'll all be lost...

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:10 PM (oZ6kz)

145 it may be an oligarchy.... or a plutocratic oligarchy.
it sure aint a republic.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 14, 2018 02:10 PM (r+sAi)

146 Oh, and has anybody from team spirit squad popped in to accuse ACE of being a Doom and Gloomer?

I thought not.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:10 PM (qxq6t)

147 All you have to do to shut down Google is ask it to calculate Pi to the last decimal place.

I saw that in a movie once.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2018 02:11 PM (xfb67)

148 Hikaru's really got something with this term limbits idea.

-It doesn't deprive the electorate of their right to vote for the person they choose.
-It can't be construed as a violation of the poll-tax amendment if the amputations are paid for out of the treasury. (Courts sometimes s-t-r-e-t-c-h voting rights to include candidacy rights.)
-It's not cruel and unusual punishment for a crime because there is no crime.
-It's really no different from requiring an actress to fix her nose or enhance her boobage to get a role.

Brilliant.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2018 02:11 PM (Rxduq)

149 Thought I saw that zombie was a she. How would the skullfucking work?

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:11 PM (h5Df3)

150 149
Thought I saw that zombie was a she. How would the skullfucking work?

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:11 PM (h5Df3)

ace was doing that deed, I believe.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:12 PM (8iiMU)

151 The GOP is an illegitimate political party.

Time to find or found another.

Is the Bull Moose Party or it's remnants still around?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:12 PM (qxq6t)

152 The term limbits idea is good.

But no politician will ever settle for just four terms.

Do we start removing ribs next? I vote for eyes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:13 PM (AzW6q)

153 149 Thought I saw that zombie was a she. How would the skullfucking work?
Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:11 PM (h5Df3)

I think ace was supposed to be doing the skullfucking. It was a little hazy since all the blood ran from my head while reading it.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 02:13 PM (RD7QR)

154 "Is the Bull Moose Party or it's remnants still around?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:12 PM (qxq6t) "

Yeah, but they're the commies. Bull Moose was a nickname for the Progressive Party.

Federalists or bust!

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:13 PM (oZ6kz)

155
Thought I saw that zombie was a she. How would the skullfucking work?

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:11 PM (h5Df3

===

There's always speculation, but no one knows.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 14, 2018 02:13 PM (oGNNA)

156 "55
It's nearly impossible to respond within the confines of Ace's ground rules and the increasingly laughable laws of the land.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 14, 2018 01:49 PM (Z0+HO)"
Pretty much. If this nonsense isn't addressed, then the outcome is just about fixed, and only the timing remains.
I fessed up in a comment thread the other day - I have worked for some place that might or might not rhyme with "frugal". Few people have any idea how much power we're talking about, or how little respect for responsible use of data, the law, or accountability. "Don't be evil" comes with an asterisk that the definition of evil is whatever batshit party line is currently in fashion.

When things get stupid I can all but guarantee you that various lefty groups will be handed lists of names, addresses, and handles.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 14, 2018 02:13 PM (eAshZ)

157 126; nothing against kimodo dragons. just saying they're fast and wrecklessky untrustable. you can never let your guard down. they're always watching.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2018 02:14 PM (KP5rU)

158 There is no team spirit squad here. We're neither teens nor cheerleaders. It's just that some of choose not to focus on negativity all the time and do find things to be grateful for in our lives everyday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:14 PM (AllCR)

159 "Do we start removing ribs next? I vote for eyes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:13 PM (AzW6q) "

I'd say testicles but let's face it, most politicians have already lost those.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:14 PM (oZ6kz)

160 Was listening to a Chicago radio station briefly, and some idiot was lamenting that there were no 'good' Republicans like McCain or Flake around.
So, a little silver lining that some of those shitweasels are gone, or headed out.

Still a bunch of idiots still there, though.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:15 PM (8iiMU)

161 144 "Weak sauce, man.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2018 02:08 PM (NWiLs) "

You can laugh because you weren't there. I've seen shit man...C-beams in the dark off the Tannhauser gate....zombie skullfucking Bill Kristol's bloated corpse...and it'll all be lost...
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:10 PM (oZ6kz)

At least one of those memories SHOULD be lost, like tears in the rain.

And is there any other scene in any movie, ever that added so much depth and richness to an antagonist? And fucking Hauer AD-Libbed that!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 02:15 PM (bcbK8)

162 All you have to do to shut down Google is ask it to calculate Pi to the last decimal place.

I saw that in a movie once.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2018 02:11 PM (xfb67)

------

Spock: Google.... Is it correct that Vulcans cannot lie.

Google: You ... are... correct.

Spock: Im lying.

Google: ...computing...computing ..computing.... computing.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 14, 2018 02:15 PM (8XRCm)

163 "here is no team spirit squad here. We're neither teens nor cheerleaders. It's just that some of choose not to focus on negativity all the time and do find things to be grateful for in our lives everyday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:14 PM (AllCR) "

Indeed, many of us have reasons to be optimistic about our personal lives.

But the country as a whole?

Not lookin' good at all.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:15 PM (oZ6kz)

164 far a i know, zombie has never claimed a gender. lot of speculation out there.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2018 02:16 PM (KP5rU)

165 Europeans understand how much more important it is to be "dignified" and "civil" than your so-called "freedom."

Posted by: Le Google at December 14, 2018 02:16 PM (koNhm)

166 Time for alternative measures.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (6E5H6)

Such as?

Posted by: clutch at December 14, 2018 02:16 PM (kiSdp)

167 OT: The new Battletech game, by the same makers of the latest Shadowrun game, is 30% off on GOG.com

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 02:16 PM (bcbK8)

168 166 Time for alternative measures.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:05 PM (6E5H6)

Such as?
Posted by: clutch at December 14, 2018 02:16 PM (kiSdp)

Think nationally, work locally

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 02:16 PM (bcbK8)

169 Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:15 PM (oZ6kz)

No, it's not and nobody denies that. Just that some people analyze date differently than other people do.

I find the attacks on Jack Straw a bore.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (AllCR)

170 >>> Now most of us are in poverty and goddamned close to living on the streets while they get paid millions of dollars and get to live in gated communities with armed guards to keep just as far away from us as possible.

Upstairs/downstairs mentality, they haz it. But instead of a proper noblesse oblige upstairs mentality, they want to use OUR downstairs money for the oblige part. And prevent us from being able to speak about the injustice of it on social media.

This will not end well.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (hvf9s)

171 "And is there any other scene in any movie, ever that added so much depth and richness to an antagonist? And fucking Hauer AD-Libbed that!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 02:15 PM (bcbK

"

It's hard to top. You go 0-60 from "yeah, fuck that metal Kraut! Fuck 'im up!" to "Oh shit...he has like real human feelings and memories...this kinda sucks."

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (oZ6kz)

172 164 far a i know, zombie has never claimed a gender. lot of speculation out there.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2018 02:16 PM (KP5rU)

Swear I saw it come up last thread.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (h5Df3)

173 Is this an example of the 'art of the deal'?

Posted by: aelfheld at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (IxDhF)

174 169-data, not date.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:18 PM (AllCR)

175 It's hard to top. You go 0-60 from "yeah, fuck that
metal Kraut! Fuck 'im up!" to "Oh shit...he has like real human feelings
and memories...this kinda sucks."

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (oZ6kz)

It IS a great scene.

I didn't know that was ad-libbed.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:18 PM (8iiMU)

176 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:14 PM (AllCR)

Waking up in a warm bed in a warm house and going to work is pretty good I think.

But what do I know, I'm just a wanna-be comic writer on a smart military blog.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 02:18 PM (hLRSq)

177 I just love how these things "sneak" into final bills without anybody noticing something is up

Too bad no one "sneaks" the abolition of Congress into one of those bills.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 02:18 PM (EdhH3)

178 I'd say testicles but let's face it, most politicians have already lost those.
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:14 PM (oZ6kz)

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Good point. And, I think an outcome of this system would be that the Uniparty would just nominated candidates based upon raw physical health... to increase their ability to survive these surgeries until they're limbless, deaf, dumb, blind sacks of guts, that vote on bills by tapping their heads on the desk.

I guess Thad Cochrane's already basically done that, though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:19 PM (AzW6q)

179 "This will not end well.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (hvf9s) "

California is less than a decade away from becoming Elysium.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 14, 2018 02:19 PM (oZ6kz)

180 Corporate Cucks Suddenly Claiming Corporations Can Do Wrong, and Arguing, For the First Time Ever, That Maybe There Are Reasons That #MuhPrivateBusiness Should Not Take an Action That It Nevertheless Has Every Legal Right to Take

This is the important distinction. I don't think we "need a law' for every damned thing, because as Americans we used to handle things as privately and without government interference as possible. And while Google is technically and legally able to deplatform people for absurd political hate reasons, they ought not and should be pressured and shamed into not doing so because its not only wrong to do so, but bad for liberty, progress, and the culture as a whole.

This new blasphemy where these big businesses and news organizations are deciding as high priests what we may and may not say, or see, or hear is completely unAmerican and vile, unethical, and destructive.

The problem with the nevertrumper types is not that they were saying this is legal and a price of freedom -- it is -- but that they weren't then saying BUT ITS WRONG AND YOU OUGHT NOT DO IT. They didn't follow up with the proper and correct position that their alleged principles would demand.

Because if you love liberty its a double edged sword: it allows certain things which are not good and ought not be left unopposed. Liberty means you're legally free to do it, without government stomping on you. But it also means that you have to protect liberty by not allowing people to abuse it and damage it.

It comes down to judgment and discernment rather than legalities. It comes down to ethics, to right and wrong, rather than who has the power to do what. And when we call upon government to fix our problems, each time we do so, we surrender a bit more of our power as citizens, and a bit more of our liberty.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:19 PM (39g3+)

181 Data is not "tech". This country hasn't developed tech for 20 years.
Posted by: Gonads and Strife at December 14, 2018 01:46 PM (smXDp)

MIT
Boston Dynamics
Hell, even MSFT Research
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 01:47 PM (bcbK

Regardless of whether or not the US has been developing "tech", I agree this particular case really isn't about "monster tech". It's more like "monster social media". There's not much tech to these sites, which are like blogs with a few bells and whistles added.

What's appalling about these cases is that they are approaching something like a phone company eavesdropping on your conversations (or texts) and then cutting off your connection the moment they heard you saying things they disapproved of. It is about stifling communication and censoring data.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 14, 2018 02:19 PM (/qEW2)

182 @163

I have a wife and beautiful children.

I have a career.

I own my house outright, have zero debt and have plentiful investments and savings.

I have much to be thankful for but to your point, what is going on is intolerable and has put us on a trajectory that will lead this nation to ruin.

I'm not happy about that.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:19 PM (qxq6t)

183 It IS a great scene.

I didn't know that was ad-libbed.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:18 PM (8iiMU)

Voiceover Theatrical Release Blade Runner is the BEST Blade Runner.

Fight me!

Posted by: blaster at December 14, 2018 02:20 PM (9VeU0)

184 You can laugh because you weren't there. I've seen shit man...C-beams in the dark off the Tannhauser gate....zombie skullfucking Bill Kristol's bloated corpse...and it'll all be lost...
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Interesting note: Hauer wrote the original monologue himself.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:20 PM (vDqXW)

185
When things get stupid I can all but guarantee you
that various lefty groups will be handed lists of names, addresses, and
handles.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 14, 2018 02:13 PM (eAshZ
=====

Surely it's already happened.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 14, 2018 02:20 PM (oGNNA)

186 It's all Mortal Engines!!!

Also, that movie looks to be really really stupid.

Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2018 02:20 PM (gmo/4)

187 And when we call upon government to fix our
problems, each time we do so, we surrender a bit more of our power as
citizens, and a bit more of our liberty.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:19 PM (39g3+)

Well said.
+1

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:20 PM (8iiMU)

188 there's no political solution for this anymore. It will only begin to end when the fourth box of democracy is opened.

Posted by: Deebly super elite at December 14, 2018 02:21 PM (qJjzH)

189 I find the attacks on Jack Straw a bore.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (AllCR)

Well, he's a Mets fan, so I am unsure whether he can even read them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2018 02:21 PM (wYseH)

190 A gaggle of Googles.

aka, the Democrat Party.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 14, 2018 02:21 PM (UsCnO)

191 I'm not happy about that.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:19 PM (qxq6t)

But it helps the attack the people on same side because they differ from your POV on certain things. I don't get it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:21 PM (AllCR)

192 183 It IS a great scene.

I didn't know that was ad-libbed.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:18 PM (8iiMU)

Voiceover Theatrical Release Blade Runner is the BEST Blade Runner.

Fight me!
Posted by: blaster at December 14, 2018 02:20 PM (9VeU0)

*Backs up Blaster*

Ford tried to tank the narration, damn him, but for two scenes at least, it helps a hell of a lot over the Director's cut.

Also the theatrical cut doesn't have the stupid, retcon unicorn dream.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 02:21 PM (bcbK8)

193 151 The GOP is an illegitimate political party.

Time to find or found another.

Is the Bull Moose Party or it's remnants still around?

Posted by: Kreplach
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Kreplach: agree w/your early tirade that the GOP is a useless pile of dog shit and an illegitimate political party as you enlightened us on of the exchange between McCarthy & Hoyer where McCarthy said Hoyer didn't understand how hard it is to govern when you take over despite having a majority.. What the holy fuck are you talking about batman? You are a special kind of stupid are you - and he is the newly elected minority leader... *facepalm*

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at December 14, 2018 02:22 PM (ZgjWN)

194 186
It's all Mortal Engines!!!

Also, that movie looks to be really really stupid.

Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2018 02:20 PM (gmo/4)

It appears to be stupid, but visually interesting.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:22 PM (8iiMU)

195 Thought I saw that zombie was a she. How would the skullfucking work?

Posted by: Someguy

Strap on.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 02:22 PM (EdhH3)

196 there's no political solution for this anymore. It will only begin to end when the fourth box of democracy is opened.

Posted by: Deebly super elite at December 14, 2018 02:21 PM (qJjzH)

I think you're looking for the seventh seal.

Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2018 02:23 PM (gmo/4)

197 It appears to be stupid, but visually interesting.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:22 PM (8iiMU)

LOL. The story "appears" to be stupid. The visuals look interesting.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:23 PM (8iiMU)

198 They don't care. They simply don't care that we are being silenced. They don't care, and many R's are likely in agreement. It's not a right that means much to them. What should happen to them is something I can't verbalize.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at December 14, 2018 02:23 PM (JoUsr)

199 Mr. Adams goes to WAR!

Posted by: Burger Chef at December 14, 2018 02:23 PM (RuIsu)

200 It IS a great scene.

I didn't know that was ad-libbed.

Apparently they gave him lines, which he didn't think were very good -- kind of harsh, mechanical lines. And he went home and thought about it, and came up with the single most powerful scene in the movie that makes sense of everything that came before. Without that final speech, the film is uncertain and just an action movie about killing robots. With it, suddenly you understand the conflict, the moral quandary, and the confusion that the Blade Runner is going through: is this even right? Should I do this?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM (39g3+)

201 Damn, fun thread overall but I have a work lunch thing.

BBL, 'rons and 'ettes

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM (bcbK8)

202 I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life, anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

Tell me that isn't an improvement over the silence between Hauer's "Time to die." and Gaff showing up.

Posted by: blaster at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM (9VeU0)

203 Just that some people analyze date differently than other people do.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM

This.

Posted by: Ace's Time Machine at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM (ctuyM)

204 Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at December 14, 2018 02:22 PM (ZgjWN)

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McCarthy. Feh. His biggest job as minority leader is going to be wheeling-and-dealing with red state dems to prevent Articles from being drafted.

He will do nothing whatsoever.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM (AzW6q)

205 "170
>>> Now most of us are in poverty and goddamned close to living
on the streets while they get paid millions of dollars and get to live
in gated communities with armed guards to keep just as far away from us
as possible.

Upstairs/downstairs mentality, they haz it. But instead of a proper
noblesse oblige upstairs mentality, they want to use OUR downstairs
money for the oblige part. And prevent us from being able to speak about
the injustice of it on social media.

This will not end well.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 02:17 PM (hvf9s)"
....
Less important than the gated communities is how they've turned entire blue enclaves into surveillance fortresses. Plate readers out the wazoo, tracking capabilities via anything wireless, facial recognition, etc. NYC has vans driving around blasting vehicles and structures with backscatter xray equipment looking for contraband and weapons. More cities are starting to install automated acoustic gunfire-triangulation equipment.

It's also been several years now since software was available on the commercial market to monitor camera feeds and automatically ID people or vehicles engaged in usual activity.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM (eAshZ)

206 Voiceover Theatrical Release Blade Runner is the BEST Blade Runner.

No fight here, its perfect as is. As shown in multiple films since, while a great visual director, Ridley Scott is not a good storyteller without a lot of help. His vision of the film is not the right vision.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:25 PM (39g3+)

207 Thought I saw that zombie was a she. How would the skullfucking work?

Posted by: Someguy

Sometimes when a bloated corpse and an anonymous internet instigator REALLY love each other....

Posted by: blaster at December 14, 2018 02:25 PM (9VeU0)

208 Until our party is cleansed of 5th columnists, we will not make much progress.
PDT can only do so much by himself.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2018 02:26 PM (mfOi4)

209 Strap on.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 02:22 PM

Subaru drivers call that "packing".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2018 02:26 PM (ctuyM)

210 Big Tech censorship at its worst. Something worth making an issue over before the bill is up for a passage vote. That is, if the Republicans want a chance to hold their seats (much less achieve a House majority and to keep the White House) in the 2020 general.

Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2018 02:26 PM (Pqytn)

211 "185

When things get stupid I can all but guarantee you

that various lefty groups will be handed lists of names, addresses, and

handles.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 14, 2018 02:13 PM (eAshZ
=====

Surely it's already happened.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 14, 2018 02:20 PM (oGNNA)"
It's been fairly narrowly targeted, though. Mil software used to ID networks and key individuals is a serious threat that some have been warning about for a few years now.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 14, 2018 02:26 PM (eAshZ)

212 McCarthy. Feh. His biggest job as minority leader is going to be wheeling-and-dealing with red state dems to prevent Articles from being drafted.

He will do nothing whatsoever.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM (AzW6q)

So he's going to be a failure then.

Because impeachment is coming, sure as its gonna rain.

Posted by: blaster at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (9VeU0)

213 @193

I'm a project manager by profession so just watching that exchange literally had me jumping out of my skin.

It was almost surreal watching that.

I mean, WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK!!!!???

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (qxq6t)

214 Now most of us are in poverty and goddamned close to living on the streets while they get paid millions of dollars and get to live in gated communities with armed guards to keep just as far away from us as possible.

I expect an economic crash soon. A bad one. I think the president is doing all he can to prevent it and heal the economy but its too late, and too much damage has been done. The rats have chewed away the entire foundation. First us, then China and the whole world will eat depression like never before.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (39g3+)

215 Big Tech censorship at its worst. Something worth
making an issue over before the bill is up for a passage vote. That is,
if the Republicans want a chance to hold their seats (much less achieve a
House majority and to keep the White House) in the 2020 general.

Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2018 02:26 PM (Pqytn)

John Spartan, you have been fined one credit...

Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (gmo/4)

216 It was almost surreal watching that.

I mean, WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK!!!!???

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (qxq6t)

Our betters are worse.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:28 PM (8iiMU)

217 It's also been several years now since software was available on the commercial market to monitor camera feeds and automatically ID people or vehicles engaged in usual activity.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM

If the van's a rockin' we'd like to come knockin'.

Posted by: Vivid Amateur Division at December 14, 2018 02:28 PM (ctuyM)

218 Yeah, I think Deckard being a replicant is a needless Shyamalan "what a twist!" type of development. It doesn't add any richness to the story.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at December 14, 2018 02:28 PM (zt1Ym)

219 @196

I believe it's more along the lines of The Ninth Gate.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:28 PM (qxq6t)

220 there's no political solution for this anymore.

--

Not unless every one of these [insert derogatory label of choice] are thrown out of office and true American patriots who still have reverence to the Constitution are elected to take their places. Short of that, we're in deep doo doo. And since most people don't see what's going on, I'm lead to the conclusion we're in deep doo doo.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at December 14, 2018 02:28 PM (JoUsr)

221 Wow, I was way late on the Hauer tidbit. I'm not usually that late.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:28 PM (vDqXW)

222 214 I expect an economic crash soon. A bad one. I think the president is doing all he can to prevent it and heal the economy but its too late, and too much damage has been done. The rats have chewed away the entire foundation. First us, then China and the whole world will eat depression like never before.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (39g3+)

While Barry laughs and gets Reggie Love to suck his dick aboard Richard Branson's yacht.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 02:29 PM (UnA8+)

223
I expect an economic crash soon. A bad one. I
think the president is doing all he can to prevent it and heal the
economy but its too late, and too much damage has been done. The rats
have chewed away the entire foundation. First us, then China and the
whole world will eat depression like never before.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (39g3+)

I think the chickens will come home to roost vis a vis the government debt.
Something will give related to that, and that will be the spark, I fear.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:29 PM (8iiMU)

224 Yeah, I think Deckard being a replicant is a needless Shyamalan "what a twist!" type of development. It doesn't add any richness to the story.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at December 14, 2018 02:28 PM (zt1Ym)
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It just makes the story more like a Dick.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:29 PM (vDqXW)

225 Since I'm still not tired of pissing on Bill Kristol, can I make a motion to make this the new "Ahoy!" icon?

https://tinyurl.com/yafzrbvb

Posted by: Hooray for Boobies at December 14, 2018 02:30 PM (SOgjZ)

226 218 Yeah, I think Deckard being a replicant is a needless Shyamalan "what a twist!" type of development. It doesn't add any richness to the story.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at December 14, 2018 02:28 PM (zt1Ym)

Except it was kind of the main theme of the book.

The core theme is "what does it mean to be human?" The movie captures that, though better with the voiceover.

Posted by: blaster at December 14, 2018 02:30 PM (9VeU0)

227 @218

Deckard is not a replicent for the simple fact that PK Dick said he's not.

So Ridley Scott can get bent.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:30 PM (qxq6t)

228 It comes down to judgment and discernment rather than legalities. It comes down to ethics, to right and wrong, rather than who has the power to do what. And when we call upon government to fix our problems, each time we do so, we surrender a bit more of our power as citizens, and a bit more of our liberty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

_____________

You expect social marxist billionaire founders to start doing the right thing because we shame them?

It's never going to happen. We need to get the law involved because it scares shareholders and that is the only thing that gets their attention.

Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:30 PM (UfkIY)

229 cuck ryan has done this for the past 2 years, letting every bill be basically kryptonite to current conservative causes

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 14, 2018 02:31 PM (7J5t2)

230
I expect an economic crash soon. A bad one. I think the president is doing all he can to prevent it and heal the economy but its too late, and too much damage has been done. The rats have chewed away the entire foundation. First us, then China and the whole world will eat depression like never before.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (39g3+)

As a general rule before a recession there's some sort of bubble that collapses(supply shocks like the oil embargo are their own special category). If one hasn't formed yet then we're in the clear for a few years yet. I don't see any but its rare for people to notice them in advance.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:32 PM (h5Df3)

231
begun, they have, the Blade Runner wars...

Posted by: Yoda at December 14, 2018 02:32 PM (KCxzN)

232 228 You expect social marxist billionaire founders to start doing the right thing because we shame them?

It's never going to happen. We need to get the law involved because it scares shareholders and that is the only thing that gets their attention.
Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:30 PM (UfkIY)

Three Words : Whiff of Grapeshot.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 02:32 PM (UnA8+)

233 I think the chickens will come home to roost vis a vis the government debt. Something will give related to that, and that will be the spark, I fear.

People talk about this bubble and that bubble, but we're under a foamy bubble bath of doom. There are so many floating overhead ready to pop its almost terrifying.

You expect social marxist billionaire founders to start doing the right thing because we shame them?

They're only doing what they are right now because of leftist pressure and shaming. They know it hurts their bottom line but have been shamed into these acts. Its a matter of what the public and society values most and cares about most.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:33 PM (39g3+)

234 165 Europeans understand how much more important it is to be "dignified" and "civil" than your so-called "freedom."
Posted by: Le Google at December 14, 2018 02:16 PM (koNhm)
-----------------------------------
Actually, the preference for "dignity" and "civility" over "freedom" is more unambiguously ASIAN than European.

Bills, limiting constitutions, and declarations of individual liberties are characteristically WESTERN. And although the US took "ordered liberty" to its highest form, the concepts do not originate in nor are exclusive to American soil.

(In any case, the Googlers don't really mean "European." They mean the European ruling class. )

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2018 02:33 PM (Rxduq)

235 Posted by: Hooray for Boobies at December 14, 2018 02:30 PM (SOgjZ)

Winston Churchill on Italian liners:

"The service is excellent, the food is superb, and in the event of emergency there is none of this nonsense about women and children first."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 02:33 PM (hLRSq)

236 Apparently they gave him lines, which he didn't think were very good -- kind of harsh, mechanical lines. And he went home and thought about it, and came up with the single most powerful scene in the movie that makes sense of everything that came before. Without that final speech, the film is uncertain and just an action movie about killing robots. With it, suddenly you understand the conflict, the moral quandary, and the confusion that the Blade Runner is going through: is this even right? Should I do this?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:24 PM (39g3+)
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Yup. For all those years people remarked at Hauer's performance in that scene, they might not have known how much of that whole monologue was his. When you think about it, the realization of one's own death is probably one of the most profoundly humanizing realizations one can make. It's in the name "human", we return to dust.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:34 PM (vDqXW)

237 People talk about this bubble and that bubble, but we're under a foamy bubble bath of doom. There are so many floating overhead ready to pop its almost terrifying.

I decided to put everyting into tulips. It's a lock!

Posted by: blaster at December 14, 2018 02:34 PM (9VeU0)

238 One of the talk stations I listen to played a congressman from California who said he didn't want the government to sensor speach, though he wished they could, but did want private companies like Google to be able to sensor speach by law.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 02:35 PM (/rm4P)

239 Posted by: blaster at December 14, 2018 02:34 PM (9VeU0)

Buy gold!
Mine bitcoin!
Silver dimes!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 02:36 PM (hLRSq)

240 One of the talk stations I listen to played a congressman from California who said he didn't want the government to sensor speach, though he wished they could, but did want private companies like Google to be able to sensor speach by law.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 02:35 PM (/rm4P)
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Don't let me stop you. That was good stuff.

Posted by: Ted Lieu at December 14, 2018 02:36 PM (vDqXW)

241 One of the talk stations I listen to played a congressman from California who said he didn't want the government to sensor speach, though he wished they could, but did want private companies like Google to be able to sensor speach by law.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 02:35 PM (/rm4P)

It was that commie Lu

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2018 02:36 PM (yWXpx)

242 I expect an economic crash soon. A bad one. I

think the president is doing all he can to prevent it and heal the

economy but its too late, and too much damage has been done. The rats

have chewed away the entire foundation. First us, then China and the

whole world will eat depression like never before.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:27 PM (39g3+)

I think the chickens will come home to roost vis a vis the government debt.
Something will give related to that, and that will be the spark, I fear.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at December 14, 2018 02:29 PM (8iiMU)

=========================
Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and
summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and
summer again.

Posted by: PerChance at December 14, 2018 02:37 PM (Pqytn)

243 241 One of the talk stations I listen to played a congressman from California who said he didn't want the government to sensor speach, though he wished they could, but did want private companies like Google to be able to sensor speach by law.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 02:35 PM (/rm4P)

It was that commie Lu
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2018 02:36 PM (yWXpx)

Well, at least he was honest.

Posted by: IC at December 14, 2018 02:37 PM (a0IVu)

244 241 One of the talk stations I listen to played a congressman from California who said he didn't want the government to sensor speach, though he wished they could, but did want private companies like Google to be able to sensor speach by law.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 02:35 PM (/rm4P)

It was that commie Lu
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2018 02:36 PM (yWXpx)

And that lying son of a bitch Johnson!

Posted by: Jenny's SDS boyfriend at December 14, 2018 02:37 PM (NWiLs)

245 Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 02:35 PM (/rm4P)

That was Ted Lieu. I think he is the one that wore the Tigger costume so = furry. General Zaroff wants him over at the Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza as they as short on entertainment for the customers.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 02:37 PM (hLRSq)

246 It was that commie Lu
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2018 02:36 PM

Not to be confused with me, pronounced "Comma-la".

Thank you.

Posted by: Kamala! 2020! at December 14, 2018 02:38 PM (ctuyM)

247 They're only doing what they are right now because of leftist pressure and shaming. They know it hurts their bottom line but have been shamed into these acts. Its a matter of what the public and society values most and cares about most.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

_____________

I disagree, I think they are doing this because they are culturally Leftist and want to throw around their power to mold the world into their vision.

Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:38 PM (UfkIY)

248 Line item veto?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 14, 2018 02:38 PM (KTFtO)

249 As a general rule before a recession there's some sort of bubble that collapses(supply shocks like the oil embargo are their own special category). If one hasn't formed yet then we're in the clear for a few years yet. I don't see any but its rare for people to notice them in advance.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:32 PM

In days of old when US manufacturing was a thing, manufacturers would overbuild inventories in anticipation of inflation, then suddenly pull back in unison. We haven't seen that as a cause in about two decades. It's been some stupid predictable government action -- like zero down, zero doc mortgages or something else entirely predictable as the cause.

Of course the government can run out of money, or the world can suddenly no longer trust the US dollar, but that's more on the 'gradually then suddenly' longer term horizon. For now.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 14, 2018 02:39 PM (jYje5)

250
Posted by: Hooray for Boobies at December 14, 2018 02:30 PM (SOgjZ)
Winston Churchill on Italian liners:

The rule of thumb in the cruising world is Norwegian Captain, German officers and Italian chefs

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 14, 2018 02:39 PM (TAmPV)

251 It comes down to judgment and discernment rather than legalities. It comes down to ethics, to right and wrong, rather than who has the power to do what. And when we call upon government to fix our problems, each time we do so, we surrender a bit more of our power as citizens, and a bit more of our liberty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

See every church in the non-muslim world.

Posted by: golfman at December 14, 2018 02:39 PM (GL/05)

252 Winston Churchill on Italian liners:

"The service is excellent, the food is superb, and in the event of emergency there is none of this nonsense about women and children first."

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Is that a legit WC quote? That's excellent!

Posted by: Hooray for Boobies at December 14, 2018 02:39 PM (SOgjZ)

253 I disagree, I think they are doing this because they are culturally Leftist and want to throw around their power to mold the world into their vision.
Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:38 PM (UfkIY)
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People say don't use the word "liberal", but liberals are striving for the ultimate freedom: freedom from reality.

Their slogan is "Why not?"

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:40 PM (vDqXW)

254 I disagree, I think they are doing this because they are culturally Leftist and want to throw around their power to mold the world into their vision.
Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:38 PM (UfkIY)

This. Sure there is social pressure, but these guys are cheerfully picking up their little red books. In every hate circle there has be the majority who willingly shames their neighbor over some perceived ill.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2018 02:40 PM (ycWCI)

255 I disagree, I think they are doing this because they are culturally Leftist and want to throw around their power to mold the world into their vision.

I think they are culturally leftist, so they feel more willing to go along with the pressure -- it takes less -- but if it was just them being lefty twits, they would have ALWAYS been doing it, not just suddenly and recently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:40 PM (39g3+)

256 >>> It's also been several years now since software was available on the commercial market to monitor camera feeds and automatically ID people or vehicles engaged in usual activity.

Taylor Swift got facial recognition put in place at her Rose Bowl concert, to scan the audience's faces to recognize stalkers that might have shown up. They justified it by calling it a "private venue."

Big Brother is coming for us sooner than we anticipated. When is the Horde crowdfunding the purchase of an off-the-grid mountain in Montana we can retreat to during the burning times? I'd chip in a few bucks.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 02:40 PM (hvf9s)

257 Does anyone know how we can combat this provision? Can we call our reps and such? This is really serious, it's what big tech has always wanted. Are the usual twitter warriors/ youtube pundits aware of this? I see a lot of complaining about people's accounts being banned or censored, is this on their radar? They have an audience, they should be sounding the alarm on this.

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at December 14, 2018 02:40 PM (4YHTV)

258 248 Line item veto?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 14, 2018 02:38 PM (KTFtO)

Struck down by SCOTUS.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

259 I half expect the Demoncrat house to pass a bill protecting Antifa from prosecution if they murder an icky conservative un-person.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 02:41 PM (UnA8+)

260 The UK is the new Florida. Proof? "Vegan Single Mother Drinks Sperm Smoothies Every Morning".

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9vbbj2o

The guy that's her "supplier" while she dates other men is the cuckiest cuck that ever cucked. Or stuck in the world's most radioactive friendzone, I'm not sure which.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 14, 2018 02:42 PM (ZGrMX)

261 Is that a legit WC quote? That's excellent!

Posted by: Hooray for Boobies at December 14, 2018 02:39 PM (SOgjZ

I may be off a bit, but that is the gist of it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 02:42 PM (hLRSq)

262 258
248 Line item veto?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 14, 2018 02:38 PM (KTFtO)

Struck down by SCOTUS.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 14, 2018 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

Only when it suits me.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at December 14, 2018 02:42 PM (8iiMU)

263 I half expect the Demoncrat house to pass a bill protecting Antifa from prosecution if they murder an icky conservative un-person.

You're joking but I fully expect some kind of "protester shield bill" that protects protesters from lawsuits and prosecution for any damage that they accidentally cause in exuberant expression of their fears of Bad Orange Man.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:42 PM (39g3+)

264 Obviously this calls for an FBI INVESTIGATION.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 14, 2018 02:42 PM (hjaPQ)

265 Well, it's Friday. The MSN had a link to an article about the best dive bar in every state. The one from NJ was too far away, but maybe some of you folks can enjoy the dive bar in your state

:

www.thedailymeal.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (AllCR)

266 The UK is the new Florida. Proof? "Vegan Single Mother Drinks Sperm Smoothies Every Morning".

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9vbbj2o

The guy that's her "supplier" while she dates other men is the cuckiest cuck that ever cucked. Or stuck in the world's most radioactive friendzone, I'm not sure which.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 14, 2018 02:42 PM (ZGrMX)

That's hot.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (ycWCI)

267 Big Brother is coming for us sooner than we anticipated. When is the Horde crowdfunding the purchase of an off-the-grid mountain in Montana we can retreat to during the burning times? I'd chip in a few bucks.
Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 02:40 PM (hvf9s)

Off to watch "The Creepy Line" on AMAZON...

No snark.

Posted by: golfman at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (GL/05)

268 >>> I expect an economic crash soon. A bad one. I
think the president is doing all he can to prevent it and heal the economy but its too late, and too much damage has been done.

Oh, but he will definitely get the blame for it!! Even with a dummycrat in office at the time.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (hvf9s)

269 Does anyone know how we can combat this provision? Can we call our reps and such? This is really serious, it's what big tech has always wanted. Are the usual twitter warriors/ youtube pundits aware of this? I see a lot of complaining about people's accounts being banned or censored, is this on their radar? They have an audience, they should be sounding the alarm on this.
Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at December 14, 2018 02:40 PM (4YHTV)
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I believe this is totally challengeable under law. Congress is not just allowed to stipulate that a Publisher isn't a Publisher. So when somebody wants their day in court against the Big Tech companies, if they don't get an Obama-judge, it will be up to the court to determine whether Twitter and Facebook act significantly like publishers to be considered publishers.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (vDqXW)

270 Housing bubble was pretty straightforward. Overbuild housing, housing prices collapse, recession. Tech bubble. Bajillion startups valued super high, people come to their senses and pull back, recession.

Government can exacerbate these or cause them to occur, sure. But without something going wrong in the real economy(and thus an observable super hot market) the only other recession we're likely to see is a debt crisis(collapse of confidence in the currency).

From where I'm sitting the economy looks reasonably solid on the fundamentals and isn't running overly hot.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (h5Df3)

271 "The UK is the new Florida. Proof? "Vegan Single Mother Drinks Sperm Smoothies Every Morning"."

We can thank the internet for bringing us nearly the sum total of human insanity every day.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (hLRSq)

272
so .... 15 minutes until the deadline for Mueller to turn over all copies and originals of the 302 documents used to get General Flynn, required by Judge Emmet Sullivan. A federal judge is not the person to lie to or willfully mislead. Mueller, hopefully, will find that out soon.

Not to worry. It only takes about 3 minutes to pop the popcorn.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 14, 2018 02:44 PM (UsCnO)

273 In every hate circle there has be the majority who willingly shames their neighbor over some perceived ill.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2018 02:40 PM

9mm.
Ginger.
Crossbows.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2018 02:44 PM (ctuyM)

274 Well at least now I know who it was, heard it last night going to the company Christmas party on Rich Zeoli's show.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 02:44 PM (/rm4P)

275 9mm.
Ginger.
Crossbows.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2018 02:44 PM (ctuyM)

.45
May Ann
Lonbows

(AOSHQ Haiku)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2018 02:45 PM (ycWCI)

276 From where I'm sitting the economy looks reasonably solid on the fundamentals and isn't running overly hot.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (h5Df3)

The recent 1-2% drops are keeping the markets less hot, I agree.
No irrational exuberance.
If anything, a fair amount of skittishness.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2018 02:46 PM (8iiMU)

277 Here's what I based a lot of my fears of economic disaster on (more than just the debt bubble, the housing bubble, the pension bubble, etc):

I went downtown for some Christmas shopping and the place was like a ghost town. Shops with eager hopeful looking clerks doing nothing. Several old, established businesses now shut down from last time I was in town. This is not a good sign, not this time of year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:46 PM (39g3+)

278 Lonbows, which fire lawn darts, oddly.

*Longbows

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2018 02:46 PM (ycWCI)

279 For some reason the media wants me to know that 10 years ago George Bush had a shoe thrown at him at a press conference by an Iraqi.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:47 PM (qxq6t)

280
I think they are culturally leftist, so they feel more willing to go along with the pressure -- it takes less -- but if it was just them being lefty twits, they would have ALWAYS been doing it, not just suddenly and recently.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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We've never had a "class" of oligarchs that have controlled communication and culture like we do now.

Usually business titans were people that were say in oil, transportation, mining, etc. They didn't control "culture"
the way Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc do.

These platforms only rose to prominence in the last 10 years, and they weren't "near monopolies" like they are now. They didn't have the power and position yet to censor people.

Bezos is a good example, he just shipped retail, but that wasn't enough power over American culture, so he bought the Washington Post as his plaything. The paper went from Establishment liberal to hyper-partisan leftist.

Free market libertarian types are going to be selling the rope for their own hanging if they think the "market" is going to be a check on Big Tech.

Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:47 PM (UfkIY)

281 And while Google is technically and legally able to deplatform people for absurd political hate reasons, they ought not and should be pressured and shamed into not doing so because its not only wrong to do so, but bad for liberty, progress, and the culture as a whole.

Erm ... one small difficulty that I'm wondering about.

How can they be "pressured and shamed" when every avenue by which pressure and shaming can be expressed is shut down?

Seems to be a bit of a flaw with your plan.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 14, 2018 02:47 PM (/qEW2)

282 263 You're joking but I fully expect some kind of "protester shield bill" that protects protesters from lawsuits and prosecution for any damage that they accidentally cause in exuberant expression of their fears of Bad Orange Man.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:42 PM (39g3+)

No, I'm really not joking.

They want us dead, and I don't think they're far from just coming out and enshrining it into law.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 02:47 PM (UnA8+)

283 260
The UK is the new Florida. Proof? "Vegan Single Mother Drinks Sperm Smoothies Every Morning".

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9vbbj2o

The guy that's her "supplier" while she dates other men is the
cuckiest cuck that ever cucked. Or stuck in the world's most
radioactive friendzone, I'm not sure which.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 14, 2018 02:42 PM (ZGrMX)

You do know that a new version of Mary Poppins is being released?

"Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down" .

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 14, 2018 02:47 PM (UsCnO)

284 A federal judge is not the person to lie to or willfully mislead. Mueller, hopefully, will find that out soon.

The Honorable Emmit Sullivan will not abide.

Posted by: golfman at December 14, 2018 02:48 PM (GL/05)

285 I went downtown for some Christmas shopping and the place was like a ghost town. Shops with eager hopeful looking clerks doing nothing. Several old, established businesses now shut down from last time I was in town. This is not a good sign, not this time of year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:46 PM (39g3+)

I wish that was the case here in So Cal. the malls are a damn zoo. I am glad I did my shopping online.

Posted by: IC at December 14, 2018 02:48 PM (a0IVu)

286 15 minutes until the deadline for Mueller to turn over all copies and originals of the 302 documents used to get General Flynn, required by Judge Emmet Sullivan.

100% chance of delay and no action by the judge. You think I'm kidding? The FBI has already done that to a federal judge, like five times in a row. Kept delaying and stonewalling and dragging their feet. Same thing to congress.

You know why? What are they gonna do about it?

I mean, the President of the United States, the chief executive who is their boss, he can do something about it but I guess he's to busy eating two scoops of ice cream at Mar-A-Lago to give a crap about the FBI's corruption and abuse of power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:48 PM (39g3+)

287 From the sidebar: LOL'ing about Jim Hanson telling off J-Pod... I know Jim. He's a solid dude.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 14, 2018 02:48 PM (AzW6q)

288 Free market libertarian types are going to be selling the rope for their own hanging if they think the "market" is going to be a check on Big Tech.
Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:47 PM (UfkIY)
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Liberals are theorists and libertarians are theorists. Conservatives, AFAICS, look at what the market will bear and what provides continuity.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:49 PM (vDqXW)

289 Mueller Team Scrubbed Peter Strzoks Texts Before Giving Phone to Inspector General

12 Angry democrats strike again.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2018 02:49 PM (yWXpx)

290 >>> As a general rule before a recession there's some sort of bubble that collapses(supply shocks like the oil embargo are their own special category). If one hasn't formed yet then we're in the clear for a few years yet. I don't see any but its rare for people to notice them in advance.

In my state it's housing. House building slowed during the recession and we never caught up, and now with the economic boom, not enough houses for the demand. It's a seller's market, with house prices grossly inflated. Not San Francisco bad yet, but something has to give. The education bubble has also been mentioned here this week as a balloon desperately in need of popping.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 02:49 PM (hvf9s)

291 I too have been shopping. Not sure where everyone is located, but Michigan Avenue was hopping with people. People with bags of stuff from high end stores. And it was raining and a crappy cold chill.

Posted by: flyover at December 14, 2018 02:49 PM (aUHJk)

292 We've never had a "class" of oligarchs that have controlled communication and culture like we do now.

Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:47 PM (UfkIY)

THIS^...

Before they controlled the cables.

Now they control the WORDS.

Let that sink in.

Posted by: golfman at December 14, 2018 02:50 PM (GL/05)

293 Vegan Single Mother Drinks Sperm Smoothies Every Morning

well, the saddest thing about the story is that some loser chokes his chicken and brings the sperm to her three times a week. he does not even get a hand job for his efforts.

why not make it a win win and simply milk it right out of him with her mouth? no fuss, no muss, everyone gets what they need.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 02:50 PM (MTjB1)

294 We've never had a "class" of oligarchs that have controlled communication and culture like we do now.

yes but "now" goes back years before they started doing it just this year. I mean, its not like Twitter suddenly showed up, it was huge in 2012. This is all very recent, and its because the leftists decided that all the unwritten rules of public behavior, freedom, and politeness were trash they will wipe their ass with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:50 PM (39g3+)

295 "Vegan Single Mother Drinks Sperm Smoothies Every Morning".
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9vbbj2o

That's the most subtle "Dear Penthouse Letters" send-up I've ever read.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2018 02:50 PM (ctuyM)

296 Certainly the FBI's failure to produce documents demanded by federal judges cries out for an FBI INVESTIGATION.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 14, 2018 02:51 PM (hjaPQ)

297 288 Free market libertarian types are going to be selling the rope for their own hanging if they think the "market" is going to be a check on Big Tech.
Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:47 PM (UfkIY)

Big tech is basically exempt from normal market forces, due to being deeply in bed with politics. The playing field has been thoroughly tilted to favor the existing oligopoly.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 02:51 PM (J+mig)

298 >>> I expect an economic crash soon. A bad one. I
think the president is doing all he can to prevent it and heal the economy but its too late, and too much damage has been done.

Oh, but he will definitely get the blame for it!! Even with a dummycrat in office at the time.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 02:43 PM (hvf9s)
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Looking at the economic situation as a whole, the thing that is going to trigger financial trouble is the unfunded government pension bubble. In the bluer states, pension promises are impossibly high, and there isn't any money to pay them. Even with the stock market making tremendous gains after Barky & his pals did their best to kneecap us, the market has recovered.

But current taxes have to be raised significantly to pay those pensions and fund the things that taxpayers actually expect from government, like roads, bridges, schools, public safety, etc.

Just like in France, the point will come that people can't pay more and all that papering over of the pensions bombs will be exposed. The bond houses keep lending money to governments to keep the lights on, but those muni bonds come due and the middle class will eventually run out of money.

Posted by: Boots at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (e9omi)

299 I wish that was the case here in So Cal. the malls are a damn zoo. I am glad I did my shopping online.

Its possible I just got there before the rush, I dunno. But it was very frightening and distressing. You should have seen the look on the face of the poor guy who owns the "I'll burn you a custom wooden sign" shop. He looked like he'd invested his entire future and house into a shop that nobody was going into. I'd have bought a sign just to throw him a bone but what would I do with one?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)

300 Certainly the FBI's failure to produce documents demanded by federal judges cries out for an FBI INVESTIGATION.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 14, 2018 02:51 PM (hjaPQ)
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All the prosecutors are at the DOJ. This is your Independent Police State championed by know-nothing news-reactors on cable.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (vDqXW)

301 US retail sales are doing strong from what news I find on it. It may be local or that people are switching to Amazon and such.

Posted by: Someguy at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (h5Df3)

302 The playing field has been thoroughly tilted to favor the existing oligopoly.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 02:51 PM

You say that like it's a Bad Thing.

Posted by: Standard Oil at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (ctuyM)

303 Certainly the FBI's failure to produce documents demanded by federal judges cries out for an FBI INVESTIGATION.

Exactly. Who watches the watchmen?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)

304
What are they gonna do about it?

======

Well, I think there is such a thing as a warrant. Let's see how mad Emmett Sullivan really is.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (oGNNA)

305 Its possible I just got there before the rush, I dunno. But it was very frightening and distressing. You should have seen the look on the face of the poor guy who owns the "I'll burn you a custom wooden sign" shop. He looked like he'd invested his entire future and house into a shop that nobody was going into. I'd have bought a sign just to throw him a bone but what would I do with one?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)

That is so sad...poor guy..hopefully business lifts off this weekend..

Posted by: IC at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (a0IVu)

306 Looking at the economic situation as a whole, the thing that is going to trigger financial trouble is the unfunded government pension bubble. In the bluer states, pension promises are impossibly high, and there isn't any money to pay them.

We can fix that.

We'll just run the wage earners to another state.

Posted by: Blue State Legislators at December 14, 2018 02:53 PM (GL/05)

307 Exactly. Who watches the watchmen?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)
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I've got it on DVD. Director-cut.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 02:53 PM (vDqXW)

308
I wish that was the case here in So Cal. the malls are a damn zoo. I am glad I did my shopping online.

Posted by: IC at December 14, 2018 02:48 PM (a0IVu)

I was at The Grove last night and it was a madhouse.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 14, 2018 02:53 PM (TAmPV)

309 the simple solution for the unfunded pensions is not to pay them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 02:53 PM (MTjB1)

310 260

IAN
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Of course I had to read the article. Notice near the end of her goals?

'I want a relationship where my partner asks if I want one shot or two shots of sperm in my smoothie each morning'

I can see the donors lining up in 5....4...3....2...1

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at December 14, 2018 02:54 PM (ZgjWN)

311 It may be local or that people are switching to Amazon and such.

If it is people switching to online shopping, that's disastrous. You have to have a local economy and local jobs for people to be able to afford to shop on Amazon. You cannot just shut everything down and shop online, people need jobs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (39g3+)

312 Don't mind me--I'm just over here in the corner, working hard to be unfuckable.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (hjaPQ)

313 why not make it a win win and simply milk it right out of him with her mouth? no fuss, no muss, everyone gets what they need.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 02:50 PM (MTjB1)

Bravo.

Posted by: golfman at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (GL/05)

314 'I want a relationship where my partner asks if I want one shot or two shots of sperm in my smoothie each morning'

Baby please! I am not from Havana!

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (ycWCI)

315 Well, I think there is such a thing as a warrant. Let's see how mad Emmett Sullivan really is.

You misunderstand. If the top cops are the bad guys, WHO BUSTS THEM?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (39g3+)

316 I'm quite unreasonably annoyed I arrived too late for the Shadowrun subthread topic. Annoyed.

Posted by: Sporkatus, point-buy grognard at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (HtLSE)

317 If it is people switching to online shopping, that's disastrous. You have to have a local economy and local jobs for people to be able to afford to shop on Amazon. You cannot just shut everything down and shop online, people need jobs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at D

no one needs stores.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (MTjB1)

318 Time to quit acting like douchebags and infiltrate Big Tech.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (FTPVM)

319 312 Don't mind me--I'm just over here in the corner, working hard to be unfuckable.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (hjaPQ)

It's amazing the progress you've made.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2018 02:56 PM (ycWCI)

320 The government is now an owned and operated subsidiary of Monster Tech.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:38 PM

This has been true for years now with most Silicon Valley Municipal Governments, when the monopolies tell them to jump, they not only ask 'how high?' but also where to land. Expect to see this level obedience at the Federal level in 3-5 years.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 14, 2018 02:56 PM (tYPH9)

321 I wish that was the case here in So Cal. the malls are a damn zoo. I am glad I did my shopping online.

Posted by: IC at December 14, 2018 02:48 PM (a0IVu)

I was at The Grove last night and it was a madhouse.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

I had to go to the Apple store last Saturday to get my phone battery replaced. I had a 3:15 appointment. Walked out at 5:30. Totally blown away about how fast & easy it was.

The rest of the mall was a zoo.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 02:56 PM (EdhH3)

322 @293 yankeefidth-well that's not very "vegan" of her, that's like eating millions of microscopic tadpoles.

I can't remember what an ex-girlfriends of mine married name is, but if this girls first name is Tiffany, it my be an ex of mine. She was quite the goo gobbler. Is their a link ?

Posted by: JROD at December 14, 2018 02:56 PM (0vY1N)

323 If it is people switching to online shopping, that's disastrous. You have to have a local economy and local jobs for people to be able to afford to shop on Amazon. You cannot just shut everything down and shop online, people need jobs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (39g3+)

Dude. Our shit got shipped to Mexico around 1994. There is no economy.

Posted by: golfman at December 14, 2018 02:57 PM (GL/05)

324 320 This has been true for years now with most Silicon Valley Municipal Governments, when the monopolies tell them to jump, they not only ask 'how high?' but also where to land. Expect to see this level obedience at the Federal level in 3-5 years.
Posted by: Surfperch at December 14, 2018 02:56 PM (tYPH9)

Or right now, if this is any indication.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 02:57 PM (UnA8+)

325 Burn down Silicon Valley.
Scatter the nerds.
Salt the drive platters.

Posted by: We made Bill Nye wear the dress, happy now? at December 14, 2018 02:57 PM (1L9V9)

326 You misunderstand. If the top cops are the bad guys, WHO BUSTS THEM?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (39g3+)

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Ooooooh Ooooooooh Ooooooooh!!!!

Call on meeeeee Mister Kotter!!!

A FREE AND IMPARTIAL PRESS!!!!!

*blink*

wait..... we're soooooo screwed

Posted by: fixerupper at December 14, 2018 02:57 PM (8XRCm)

327 @309

You would think it's that simple but when the Donks controlled every state they built into most state constitutions union remuneration clauses that courts have said states cannot violate.

Essentially saying the union compensation is a constitutionally protected right and you must tax the citizenry to pay them.

Which is why Tiny Dancer in Chicago is agitating to change the Illinois constitution on his way out the door.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2018 02:57 PM (qxq6t)

328 MAE if you're still here: ever tried using a spreadsheet to create a character with 0.01 points of essence in 4E/20th?

Posted by: Sporkatus, point-buy grognard at December 14, 2018 02:57 PM (HtLSE)

329
Don't mind me--I'm just over here in the corner, working hard to be unfuckable.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (hjaPQ)

You should work smarter at being unfuckable not harder

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 14, 2018 02:58 PM (TAmPV)

330 If it is people switching to online shopping, that's disastrous. You have to have a local economy and local jobs for people to be able to afford to shop on Amazon. You cannot just shut everything down and shop online, people need jobs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (39g3+)

Aside from store management, retail work is subsistence level. Those WalMart employees aren't making a big contribution to anybody's holiday sales.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 02:58 PM (J+mig)

331 This might have been asked already, but can the SC throw this out as unconstitutional?

(Roberts laughs, I know I know. But let's say we get another judge or two.)

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 14, 2018 02:58 PM (JcPeV)

332 Don't mind me--I'm just over here in the corner, working hard to be unfuckable.
Posted by: Amy Schumer

Here, have another box of Krispy Kremes.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 02:58 PM (EdhH3)

333 girlfriends of mine married name is, but if this girls first name is Tiffany, it my be an ex of mine. She was quite the goo gobbler. Is their a link ?
Posted by: JROD at D

https://tinyurl.com/y9vbbj2o

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 02:58 PM (MTjB1)

334 It won't end until public hangings in all the town squares across America and/or people close their businesses and stop going to work.

Posted by: pro edger at December 14, 2018 02:58 PM (qVyOY)

335 The Special Council is the closests thing America has to the KGB

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2018 02:59 PM (yWXpx)

336 yes but "now" goes back years before they started doing it just this year. I mean, its not like Twitter suddenly showed up, it was huge in 2012. This is all very recent, and its because the leftists decided that all the unwritten rules of public behavior, freedom, and politeness were trash they will wipe their ass with.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

___________

Twitter's IPO was in 2013. Were they trying to appear more neutral because they were afraid of their big rollout? Possibly.

Regardless, the founder Jack Dorsey is like the poster child of left wing oligarchs.

I really don't think all of this censoring is reaction to liberals screaming. It's seems very specific and the whole company is on board.

Regardless, some laws protecting neutrality on platforms would be a good idea. It would be like if 30 years ago AT&T decided they were going to start censoring phone calls or denying service to Republicans.

If you want to argue that's not free market thinking to add new regulations, I can live with that. Political speech is more important.

Posted by: Blago at December 14, 2018 02:59 PM (UfkIY)

337 331 This might have been asked already, but can the SC throw this out as unconstitutional?

(Roberts laughs, I know I know. But let's say we get another judge or two.)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 14, 2018 02:58 PM (JcPeV)

No, because Silicon Valley will keep doing it anyway, and it will make Roberts look like a powerless fool.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 02:59 PM (UnA8+)

338
Don't mind me--I'm just over here in the corner, working hard to be unfuckable.
Posted by: Amy Schumer

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Wow.

And here I thought that was just the way you are.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 14, 2018 02:59 PM (8XRCm)

339 Actually heard of a couple of conservatives outed and how the rest of the Leftists in these big media companies have either tried or successfully got rid of them.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 03:00 PM (/rm4P)

340 You misunderstand. If the top cops are the bad guys, WHO BUSTS THEM?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM (39g3+)
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Ya got us.

Posted by: City of Philadelphia at December 14, 2018 03:00 PM (vDqXW)

341 Here, have another box of Krispy Kremes.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 02:58 PM (EdhH3)

Finally.

Posted by: Amy Shoemer at December 14, 2018 03:00 PM (GL/05)

342 I had to go to the Apple store last Saturday to get my phone battery replaced. I had a 3:15 appointment. Walked out at 5:30. Totally blown away about how fast & easy it was.

The rest of the mall was a zoo.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 02:56 PM (EdhH3)

Ditch Apple. Company store bullshit.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 14, 2018 03:00 PM (J+mig)

343 Don't mind me--I'm just over here in the corner, working hard to be unfuckable.
Posted by: Amy Schumer

Don't go a-changing, to more disgust me. I hate you just the way you are.

Posted by: Boel Jilly at December 14, 2018 03:00 PM (HtLSE)

344 >>Expect to see this level obedience at the Federal level in 3-5 years.

How about Amazon, whose founder is the richest guy in the world, panhandling from state to state to get the best goodies from local governments for the privilege of hosting is HQ2. I forget the amount that NY is subsidizing his payroll, maybe $40k/per employee? disgusting.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2018 03:01 PM (W+vEI)

345 no one needs stores.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 02:55 PM

Right. Do manufacturers of products need brick and mortar stores to mark-up their product X 3 and limit their unit sales when they can sell it on Amazon for X 1.2 and be thrilled at a large market and more unit sales?

This is evolution. It is a better way. For some.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 14, 2018 03:01 PM (jYje5)

346 You misunderstand. If the top cops are the bad guys, WHO BUSTS THEM?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Charles Harrelson to the white courtesy phone. Charles Harrelson, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2018 03:02 PM (EdhH3)

347 the simple solution for the unfunded pensions is not to pay them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 02:53 PM (MTjB1)
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Simple in theory but complicated to reach that point. Most states have laws, some have pension guarantees written into their state constitutions that pensions cannot be diminished.

So a local unit of government says, hell no we ain't payin'. Those collecting that pension, or their union, files suit. Suit eventually winds up at State Supreme Court. All of whose members are in line to collect a big fat government pension as soon as they retire. State Supreme Court rules against the local unit of government and orders pension payments to continue, because local units of government have taxing power and can always raise money that way.

Eventually the power to raise taxes to pay pensions means that pensions crowd out the things people think they are paying taxes for but aren't getting. But it's going to take awhile to get there, people have to get mad enough to put on a yellow vest and march in the streets.

Posted by: Boots at December 14, 2018 03:02 PM (e9omi)

348 ow about Amazon, whose founder is the richest guy in the world, panhandling from state to state to get the best goodies from local governments for the privilege of hosting is HQ2. I forget the amount that NY is subsidizing his payroll, maybe $40k/per employee? disgusting.
Posted by: Lizzy at D

there is not direct transfer of money from the state to amzn, just reduced taxes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 03:03 PM (MTjB1)

349 344 >>Expect to see this level obedience at the Federal level in 3-5 years.

How about Amazon, whose founder is the richest guy in the world, panhandling from state to state to get the best goodies from local governments for the privilege of hosting is HQ2. I forget the amount that NY is subsidizing his payroll, maybe $40k/per employee? disgusting.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2018 03:01 PM (W+vEI)

*Get subsidized 40k per head, Employ a bunch of warehouse monkeys at 25k per*

Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 03:03 PM (UnA8+)

350 Re: Guzzler. She's not a vegan anymore. Animal product.

Posted by: Burger Chef at December 14, 2018 03:03 PM (RuIsu)

351 Nood payoffs

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 14, 2018 03:04 PM (hLRSq)

352 You gotta hand it to the Deep State Narrative Spinners.
"Russia collusion" was a sinister sounding, non-crime that puts the smearee in the position of having to either (a) deny a set of ambiguous facts that opens one up to charges of being a "liah!" or (b) trying to instruct a Twitter mob that "collusion" isn't a crime, without sounding like Boris Badinov.

Similarly, the latest Cohen spin is about "hush money" with the "intent to influence an election." Of course "hush money" (an NDA) is not a crime, and is routinely part of nearly every settlement for personal injury (or alleged personal injury) though of course made to sound as sinister as possible. It is not a crime if done for any purpose that includes something not affecting an election, eg. to try to protect your reputation, or simply to avoid wasting time getting tied up in Court.

So Tump has denied "instructing Cohen to do anything illegal" which is being mangled by the MSM as "Trump denies paying hush money." And, of course, as it will be shown that Trump did indeed authorize the payment (about which there was absolutely nothing improper) they will all go to eleventy on "Liar! Liar!"

How can you defend against this sort weasely slime to a public that largely operates on the level of pushing buttons on an iPhone?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 14, 2018 03:04 PM (koNhm)

353 Ein Neu!

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 14, 2018 03:04 PM (Wkm6f)

354 Amy Schummer has no worries from me, even in my worst dreams.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 03:05 PM (/rm4P)

355 Right. Do manufacturers of products need brick and mortar stores to mark-up their product X 3 and limit their unit sales when they can sell it on Amazon for X 1.2 and be thrilled at a large market and more unit sales?

This raises an interesting point, something that occurs to me. Paradoxically, the left's Mail Megacorp hero and its business model could be one of the strongest forces for anti-urbanization, ever. Brick and mortar store presences are one of the main drivers of "Urban Convenience", having everything easily within reach. If physical mail networks replace so much of that with more rurally based (due to cheap land costs) warehousing, the jobs leave the city and the urban center loses access advantage to the suburbs and beyond.

Posted by: Sporkatus at December 14, 2018 03:05 PM (HtLSE)

356 This is evolution. It is a better way. For some.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 14, 2018 03:01 PM (jYje5)
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Why I am a Christian Part #337.

Christianity describes key and essential parts of existence and reality itself as trade-offs and adjustments.

Posted by: City of Philadelphia at December 14, 2018 03:05 PM (vDqXW)

357 But Amy it is a goal in life so go for it.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2018 03:05 PM (/rm4P)

358
Don't mind me--I'm just over here in the corner, working hard to be unfuckable.
Posted by: Amy Schumer

I saw a picture of The Oval Office scene from the other day that had Chuck Scummer with his head down and somebody photoshopped a picture of naked Amy Shumer into PDT's hands

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 14, 2018 03:06 PM (TAmPV)

359 theory but complicated to reach that point. Most states have laws, some have pension guarantees written into their state constitutions that pensions cannot be diminished.

So a local unit of government says, hell no we ain't payin'. Those collecting that pension, or their union, files suit. Suit eventually winds up at State Supreme Court. All of whose members are in line to collect a big fat government pension as soon as they retire. State Supreme Court rules against the local unit of government and orders pension payments to continue, because local units of government have taxing power and can always raise money that way.

Eventually the power to raise taxes to pay pensions means that pensions crowd out the things people think they are paying taxes for but aren't getting. But it's going to take awhile to get there, people have to get mad enough to put on a yellow vest and march in the streets.
Posted by: Boots at D

you never win when you are fighting math. so go, raise taxes and keep raising taxes until everyone has moved out of the state. you cannot make people pay money they do not have. wold be a good time to find the state constitution guarantees unconstitutional too.

will be even funnier when pensioners who have moved out of states with pension bubbles are suing the states that owe them the pensions.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2018 03:06 PM (MTjB1)

360 Sign the petition:

https://www.petition2congress.com/ctas/stop-big-tech-takeover

Posted by: Lee at December 14, 2018 03:06 PM (V6uTn)

361
So Tump has denied "instructing Cohen to do anything illegal" which is being mangled by the MSM as "Trump denies paying hush money." And, of course, as it will be shown that Trump did indeed authorize the payment (about which there was absolutely nothing improper) they will all go to eleventy on "Liar! Liar!"

Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 14, 2018 03:04 PM (koNhm)
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They know how bad people are of keeping track of things, and they nourish confusion daily.

Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 03:07 PM (vDqXW)

362 How about Amazon, whose founder is the richest guy in the world, panhandling from state to state to get the best goodies from local governments for the privilege of hosting is HQ2. I forget the amount that NY is subsidizing his payroll, maybe $40k/per employee? disgusting.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2018 03:01 PM

I remember a prime minister of Jamaica who once said in response to US complaints about marijuana smuggling that 'we would not export, if you would not import'.

Not quite the same, but I imagine it's become a bidding war to get an Amazon facility. Amazon may not be showing up, hat in hand, but the 'importers' are looking to 'win' the facility.

Actually, many years ago I calculated the start-up cost per employee hired in equipment and facility at over $100,000 dollars. It's a ton of money to create a job anymore. Unfortunately, only the biggest target sees any of that sweet paydown of costs.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 14, 2018 03:07 PM (jYje5)

363 This has been true for years now with most Silicon Valley Municipal Governments, when the monopolies tell them to jump, they not only ask 'how high?' but also where to land. Expect to see this level obedience at the Federal level in 3-5 years.
Posted by: Surfperch at December 14, 2018 02:56 PM (tYPH9)

Or right now, if this is any indication.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2018 02:57 PM (UnA8+)

Right now there are still a couple voices of dissent, city councils in Silicon Valley will vote unanimously according to the tech companies' will with not even a semblance of regard to what voters think.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 14, 2018 03:09 PM (tYPH9)

364 >>> Vegan Single Mother Drinks Sperm Smoothies Every Morning".

Yeah, not clicking on that.

Unless the guy supplying the sperm is vegan, it's not vegan grade sperm, correct? Would be hilarious if the guy chowed down on a massive steak right before "harvest" time.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2018 03:10 PM (hvf9s)

365 Sometimes government regulation is appropriate, like issuing recalls when a food company has e. coli in their product and dictating hygiene standards in the first place.

The question is, when is regulation called for given the harm that a company's policies are causing?

Note the question is when, not if.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 14, 2018 03:15 PM (/qEW2)

366 They know how bad people are of keeping track of things, and they nourish confusion daily.
Posted by: Axeman at December 14, 2018 03:07 PM (vDqXW)

Confucius never said it better.

Posted by: Amy Shoemer at December 14, 2018 03:16 PM (GL/05)

367 This raises an interesting point, something that occurs to me. Paradoxically, the left's Mail Megacorp hero and its business model could be one of the strongest forces for anti-urbanization, ever. Brick and mortar store presences are one of the main drivers of "Urban Convenience", having everything easily within reach. If physical mail networks replace so much of that with more rurally based (due to cheap land costs) warehousing, the jobs leave the city and the urban center loses access advantage to the suburbs and beyond.

Posted by: Sporkatus at December 14, 2018 03:05 PM

Very interesting point. Even though I live in the furthest reaches of 'the boonies' the fedex, ups, usps trucks all go past my house daily. Even my supermarket will deliver for free, or almost.

Do we even need a second car? I can get whatever I want in a time frame of hours to mere days. Uber is clicks away.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 14, 2018 03:27 PM (jYje5)

368 328 MAE if you're still here: ever tried using a spreadsheet to create a character with 0.01 points of essence in 4E/20th?
Posted by: Sporkatus, point-buy grognard at December 14, 2018 02:57 PM (HtLSE)

Not via spreadsheet but I can get down to .1 with Herolabs doing the math. I ran out of character money before I ran out of ways to abuse Alpha and Betaware.

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