Food Thread: Primitivo And Pig: A Match Made In Heaven

Back in the day, Zinfandel was a poorly understood grape that was used mostly to make insipid white wines that had some residual sugar. Pretty boring and crappy. But there were an intrepid few in Northern California who understood how good the grape could be. Some of them were the Old Italian grape growers who knew of the grape from Italy, where it is called "Primitivo."

Now of course the slim-hipped hipsters have discovered Zinfandel and it is no longer a lovely secret, and the prices have skyrocketed. But the Italian version is still reasonably priced, and it can be a great drink. I was in Hoboken recently for dinner, at an old-school Italian restaurant that served the classics...and did a really good job of it. They had a Primitivo on the menu for not very much money, and it was a pleasure to drink. Fruity and big and without the sere qualities that too many modern wines aspire to.

So all of you wine drinkers out there, give it a try. Don't spend too much...my favorite wine store has two...a nice one for $11 and a fancy-bottle one for $17. A cursory check on the internet has dozens for less than $10, so they haven't gone mad with pricing like the California Zins.

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This sounds absolutely spectacular!
Pot-roasted Shoulder of Pork with Chilli and Beer
It's a simple recipe, with no weird ingredients, and the technique is basic. And that's as it should be! The liberal use of lemon juice is a nice touch, since it will counter the richness of the fatty meat. I would caution you to be careful with the dried red chili. The typical dried stuff in this country can be quite spicy, and while it will be damned fine eating, it might not be optimal for Red Sox fans and other weak-willed people.

Oh, I'll bet it will work with the other end of the pig. Hams are even cheaper than shoulders!

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I like eggnog! Yeah, it's sort of sweet and sort of thick and to be honest is redolent of mucus, but for whatever reason -- probably the booze -- it hits the spot once each year. Alton Brown's Eggnog sounds like it would be good, especially in comparison to some of the commercial brands. Taste Test: Eggnog is obviously subjective, but a few of these sound repulsive. Home made is worth the trouble, especially since it's only once a year...
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I love this idea, but the pie itself is massive, calling for two pounds of meat (smoked ham is never optional in Dildo World). If I were to make this I would make a few smaller pies, which would require actual thought before attempting, so..um...maybe not.
English Pork Pie
Although, now that I think about it, the idea of a slice of pie rather than an entire pie for oneself is appealing.

First World Problems baby!

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It's clickbait, but it's fun and disgusting clickbait!
Only Someone With a Stomach of Steel Would Be Willing to Try at Least 15 of These Vintage Recipes
Prune Whip anyone?
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Here's something a bit different.
Fudgy Chocolate Mug Cakes
It's written to be made with, or at least for kids, but it's a quick and simple dessert that works well for just two people. I'm not a big fan of cakes, but hot out of the oven, or in this case microwave, covers up a multitude of sins.
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Food and cooking tips, Haggis, young wild pigs, Scotch Eggs, thick and fluffy pita and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

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1 Lets eat

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 03:58 PM (/rm4P)

2 Hi ... am i hungry!

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 03:58 PM (SOasJ)

3 Wine is a scam.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 03:59 PM (vhKHa)

4 Zin's are pretty good, find old zin wine are the best.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 03:59 PM (/rm4P)

5 Muscadine grapes are the only ones worth dealing with.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 16, 2018 03:59 PM (/qEW2)

6 "smoked ham is never optional in Dildo World"

Dildo World truly is a magical land where dreams really do come true.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:00 PM (t+qrx)

7 Wine is not a scam, ( corgis dutifully called btw)

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:00 PM (/rm4P)

8 No real man would eat a Fudgy Chocolate Mug Cake.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2018 04:00 PM (93ZJL)

9 Wine is a scam.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 03:59 PM (vhKHa)

Wine marketing is a scam. But the product is wonderful.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2018 04:00 PM (wYseH)

10
I made an excellent ribrye roast with veggies last night.

And the Cowboys are a garbage team.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2018 04:01 PM (LsBY9)

11 according to she who rules my world with an iron fist, the only wine worth drinking is Boone's Strawberry Hill

Posted by: ncj....not exactly the dog whisperer at December 16, 2018 04:01 PM (pWEY3)

12 3 Wine is a scam.
Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 03:59 PM (vhKHa)

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I buy by price, alcoholic content and a cool-looking label, in that order.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2018 04:01 PM (93ZJL)

13 >>But the product is wonderful.

Well, you need Sherry. And Port.

The rest of it I could care less about. I don't drink it. Only cook with it.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:02 PM (vhKHa)

14 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 16, 2018 04:02 PM (nlUp2)

15 Rice Wine. For the Vinegar.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:03 PM (vhKHa)

16
*polite cough*

Isn't ham trayf? Or is there a Rebbe Francis advising CBD?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2018 04:03 PM (LsBY9)

17 The fudge I made with Fireball is delicious! You can't taste the Fireball. At least I didn't and hubby didn't. Very easy to make.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:03 PM (dUJdY)

18 >>Isn't ham trayf?

It all depends on how they kill the pig.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:04 PM (vhKHa)

19 I don't drink it. Only cook with it.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:02 PM (vhKHa)

What the hell do you drink with meals?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2018 04:04 PM (wYseH)

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I like eggnog! Yeah, it's sort of sweet and sort of thick and to be honest is redolent of mucus, but for whatever reason -- probably the booze -- it hits the spot once each year.

I mix hot Mickey D coffee with cold Wawa eggnog and come up with a sweet coffee flavored eggnog.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:04 PM (kD8Fh)

21 >>What the hell do you drink with meals?

Water.

or Coke.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:05 PM (vhKHa)

22 Port, baby.

Otherwise, bourbon goes with everything.

Posted by: Sixkiller at December 16, 2018 04:05 PM (R8xvp)

23 Isn't ham trayf?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2018 04:03 PM (LsBY9)

It is indeed, but I do not keep the laws of Kashrut.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2018 04:05 PM (wYseH)

24
What the hell do you drink with meals?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2018 04:04 PM (wYseH)

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My money is on NyQuil.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2018 04:05 PM (93ZJL)

25 I'm very choosy in the wine that I drink.

Only wine from the very best boxes do I let touch my lips.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 16, 2018 04:05 PM (9rIkM)

26 December 17 is National Maple Syrup day.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at December 16, 2018 04:06 PM (bML9A)

27 I buy by price, alcoholic content and a cool-looking label, in that order.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2018 04:01 PM (93ZJL)

An old housemate of mine would only ever buy wine that came in a bottle with a deep punt on the bottom. His reasoning was that you might be able to find a good wine in bargain-basement bottles, but nobody's going to spend the extra buck to put lousy wine in expensive bottles.

It made sense, but I don't know if it was true.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:06 PM (t+qrx)

28 I'm going to stir-fry a bunch of vegetables and chicken, though I might not do that tonight. Too depressed and somewhat ill.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 16, 2018 04:06 PM (l9m7l)

29 >>What the hell do you drink with meals?

Definitely NOT milk.

I see milk at a dinner table and I am leaving.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:06 PM (vhKHa)

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I built my own wine cellar, 'cause manly men do stuff like that. Lots of racks. In theory it could hold a thousand bottles.

But I really don't drink that much wine. Discovered after the fact that having half of it devoted to white wines was the stupid, because they don't improve with age. Get a little off color, if my eyes are any judge.

So I gotta figure out a lotta recipes that require white wine. Chicken and turkey around my parts are unbelievably delicious and succulent. Because white wine has to go.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 16, 2018 04:07 PM (jYje5)

31
December 17 is National Maple Syrup day.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade

French toast all around!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2018 04:07 PM (LsBY9)

32 I like syrah with rib roast for its peppery taste.
And agree with CBD that wine marketing is a scam and getting bottles at restaurants is often robbery.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:07 PM (/rm4P)

33 ZinfAndel is my favorite except Barolo which is pricier. Big and jammy. Earthquake has a good one - $20 or so on sale. And all Orin Swift reds are wonderful. California, though.

Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:07 PM (XROPS)

34 I remember when a wino was a homeless bum living under a bridge and flying a sign for spare change at the downtown intersection for his next bottle of rot gut.

Now, it's a slim hipped boomer or pajama boy wine lover.

I love pork pie with some nice chutney and hot tea.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2018 04:08 PM (Z+IKu)

35 I see milk at a dinner table and I am leaving.
Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:06 PM (vhKHa)

A gracious dinner guest flips the table before leaving.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:08 PM (t+qrx)

36 or Coke.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:05 PM (vhKHa)

I...but...no!

You would desecrate a great piece of elk or antelope or even a grandly marbled beefsteak with Coke?

You are a savage.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2018 04:08 PM (wYseH)

37 When I lived kin CA Zinfandel used to be just about the only wine I would buy. Here in SC there is not a big selection of it and I pretty much gave up on wine except for sparkling wine on New Years.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2018 04:09 PM (mpXpK)

38 Honestly, if it wasn't for a couple of sauces, deglazing, and letting it turn into vinegar I don't know what I would do with wine.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:09 PM (vhKHa)

39 28 I'm going to stir-fry a bunch of vegetables and chicken, though I might not do that tonight. Too depressed and somewhat ill.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 16, 2018 04:06 PM (l9m7l)

I hope you can follow through with your plan to cook. "Eat! You'll feel better!", mom used to say, and she was right.

My BF's dad passed away suddenly last week. He has no appetite at all and I have to coax him to get some nourishment. I know how he feels because in my mother's last days and after her passing I had no appetite at all. I lost about 15 pounds.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:09 PM (kD8Fh)

40 Watch Sour Grapes. It will reconfirm your belief that expensive wines are scammorific.

Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:09 PM (XROPS)

41 A bottle of wine makes a meal feel like an occasion. I like the ritual of it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2018 04:10 PM (93ZJL)

42 >>I...but...no!

You would desecrate a great piece of elk or antelope or even a grandly marbled beefsteak with Coke?

Fuckin' A Right

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:10 PM (vhKHa)

43 I love eggnog and I have a great recipe for it. But one 8 oz glass has a whole weeks worth of cholesterol in it.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2018 04:10 PM (mpXpK)

44 >>A gracious dinner guest flips the table before leaving.

Touche.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:10 PM (vhKHa)

45 My cousin bottles his own wine. When he offered it I accepted it, hesitantly but the color looked good so I wasn't *too* afraid. It tasted surprisingly good.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:13 PM (kD8Fh)

46 My BF's dad passed away suddenly last week. He has no appetite at all and I have to coax him to get some nourishment. I know how he feels because in my mother's last days and after her passing I had no appetite at all. I lost about 15 pounds.

Oh how sad.. especially this time of year.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:15 PM (dUJdY)

47
The taste of alcohol is disgusting to me, so it's ice water with lemon for me. Coke goes with salty carbohydrates.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2018 04:16 PM (LsBY9)

48 Those vintage concoctions are just...hideous. I think CBD picked the least offensive one to feature.

Our family had the Woman's Day Encyclopedia of Cooking. It was published in the late 1960s. A lot of the recipes are dated, and sometimes I try and figure out how to update them, but nothing I've yet seen in those volumes matches the unappetizing samples of retro food in the linked piece.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:17 PM (kD8Fh)

49 As i understand it, there was red zinfandel back to the later half of the 1800's mainly because of Italians coming to 'fornia and they brought vine shoots with them. And so zin became an everyday wine and bit by bit somewhat common. Prohibition threw a wrench into the works for more than a decade but the cali wine industry rebounded.

White zin came about 1965 or so because some winery made a big booboo. Wine partially fermented and still a bit sweet. They arrested fermentation and figured they could sell cheap to get off their hands. I cant remember which winery did this, but Beringer was right on their heels...

Stuff sold out in record time.

Then the white zin boom happened.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 04:17 PM (SOasJ)

50 I'm with garrett on the milk at supper, but then I have lots of food rules.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:17 PM (/rm4P)

51 Oh how sad.. especially this time of year.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:15 PM (dUJdY)

He has four sisters. Three of them are taking it rather well. I call them "The Grabbys".

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:18 PM (kD8Fh)

52 I haven't reentered my recipe from Betty Crocker yet but this is what the Master Cook recipe has for nutrition in an 8 oz glass of their egg nog.

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 1046 Calories; 84g Fat (75.7% calories from fat); 16g Protein; 45g Carbohydrate; 0g Dietary Fiber; 567mg Cholesterol; 245mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1 Lean Meat; 1/2 Non-Fat Milk; 14 Fat; 1 1/2 Other Carbohydrates.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2018 04:18 PM (mpXpK)

53 Baby, it's cold outside!

Posted by: Sausage Stuffed Steak at December 16, 2018 04:19 PM (Z9C5C)

54 The taste of alcohol is disgusting to me, so it's ice water with lemon for me

God, I wish I had that problem. I need to cut it back to just weekends. So stressed right now I look forward to that glass or two of wine every night.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:20 PM (dUJdY)

55 I'd sure like to try that mackerel pudding. All the fun of dessert and all the smell of bait fish. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2018 04:20 PM (93ZJL)

56 And speaking of the food thread its about time for me to go start up some supper.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2018 04:21 PM (mpXpK)

57 50 I'm with garrett on the milk at supper, but then I have lots of food rules.
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:17 PM (/rm4P)

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Me too.

Posted by: Yahweh at December 16, 2018 04:21 PM (93ZJL)

58 I'm page 162 in the Deplorable Gourmet, 'Mom's Despair', and I'd like to know when we're going to get going on Volume 2? Because I've got a perfect recipe to submit:
https://tinyurl.com/ycn74qur

Posted by: Monty James at December 16, 2018 04:23 PM (a2tKe)

59 Westside Paso Robles Zinfandels > any other zins, Primitivo or not.

next question?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2018 04:24 PM (zJ7J0)

60 I need a tasty appetizer filling for some mini phyllo cups. No freaky ingredients. Any ideas?

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:25 PM (PF4TZ)

61 Dildo World truly is a magical land where dreams really do come true.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:00 PM (t+qrx)

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and *everything* comes with a side order of maple syrup!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2018 04:26 PM (zJ7J0)

62 ingredients. Any ideas?

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:25 PM (PF4TZ)

At thanksgiving a guest brought appetizers made of brie, cranberry chutney and walnuts. They were heated and so tasty! Maybe you could riff on that selection of ingredients?

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:26 PM (kD8Fh)

63 De-lurking....

"Chillie" is a Brit spelling. Here in the Land of Enchantment "Chile" is either red or green (red is just very ripe & dried green) & the basis for our cuisine. "Chili" is something Texans eat.

Posted by: Fred Weldon at December 16, 2018 04:26 PM (g8bPc)

64 I need a tasty appetizer filling for some mini phyllo cups. No freaky ingredients. Any ideas?
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:25 PM (PF4TZ)

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Those mini Reese's peanut butter cups could be good.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 04:27 PM (ffYR/)

65 I need a tasty appetizer filling for some mini phyllo cups. No freaky ingredients. Any ideas?
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:25 PM (PF4TZ)

Spinach and feta.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:27 PM (t+qrx)

66 and *everything* comes with a side order of maple syrup!
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2018 04:26 PM (zJ7J0)

Every kitchen is plumbed for gravy.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:28 PM (t+qrx)

67 I haven't reentered my recipe from Betty Crocker yet but this is what the Master Cook recipe has for nutrition in an 8 oz glass of their egg nog.

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 1046 Calories; 84g Fat (75.7% calories from fat); 16g Protein; 45g Carbohydrate; 0g Dietary Fiber; 567mg Cholesterol; 245mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1 Lean Meat; 1/2 Non-Fat Milk; 14 Fat; 1 1/2 Other Carbohydrates.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2018 04:18 PM

I'm very suspicious of those numbers. Very. One egg is 60 calories. My daily caloric intake is just a little over 1,200. I can't imagine an 8 ounce drink with that many calories unless it's pure alcohol and pure butter fat.

Which would actually be pretty damn tasty.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 16, 2018 04:29 PM (jYje5)

68 When I think of a Frankaroni Loaf, I think of Amy Schumer in a teddy with a tub of lubricant.

Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2018 04:29 PM (Z9C5C)

69 See, I have food rules. spinach and feta are freak foods, same with brie. Maybe something with cr�me cheese, green onions and something else.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:29 PM (PF4TZ)

70 spinach and feta are freak foods
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:29 PM (PF4TZ)

I don't think we're going to be able to reach any common ground, on those terms.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:30 PM (t+qrx)

71 I've started drinking a cup of coffee in the late afternoons to keep from falling asleep.

Posted by: Weasel -Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

72 I need a tasty appetizer filling for some mini phyllo cups. No freaky ingredients. Any ideas?
Posted by: Infidel

Crab and cream cheese with chives

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2018 04:30 PM (ZejZP)

73 Maybe I will just save the cups and do a sweet filling and eat them all myself.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:31 PM (PF4TZ)

74 Infidel. A deviled egg mixture with horseradish, crumbled bacon and a finely minced chive.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 04:31 PM (mh1zq)

75 Is it really maple syrup day tomorrow?

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:32 PM (/rm4P)

76 Same goes with Ketchup at Breakfast.

Table: Flipped.

Garrett: Parking Lot.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:32 PM (vhKHa)

77 I AM NOT GAY, but I like Brie cheese. And quiche. There. I've said it.

Posted by: Weasel -Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:32 PM (MVjcR)

78 Or a chopped up waldorf salad.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2018 04:32 PM (ZejZP)

79 Here in the Land of Enchantment "Chile" is either red or green (red is just very ripe & dried green) & the basis for our cuisine. "Chili" is something Texans eat.

lol.. I noticed they put green chili on everything! Some of the best breakfasts I ever had though were in ABQ. Had an omelette one time there that was to die for. Smothered in green chili

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:32 PM (dUJdY)

80 crab, cr�me cheese and chives. sounds good. We also like artichoke hearts.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:33 PM (PF4TZ)

81 >>I've started drinking a cup of coffee in the late afternoons to keep from falling asleep.

Me too.

Then I take a 15 minute nap.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:33 PM (vhKHa)

82 See, I have food rules. spinach and feta are freak foods, same with brie. Maybe something with creme cheese, green onions and something else.
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:29 PM (PF4TZ)

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Maybe a can of Artichoke hearts, drained, mixed with mayo, garlic juice and parmesan cheese?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 04:33 PM (ffYR/)

83 OopsI meant green chile lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:33 PM (dUJdY)

84 I use to have coffee in evening but stopped it as I thinkit wrecks my sleep which gets wrecked enough.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:33 PM (/rm4P)

85 Camembert>Brie

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:33 PM (vhKHa)

86 cream cheese, green onions and something else.
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:29 PM (PF4TZ)

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Bacon?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (5aX2M)

87 But a nighttime cap of scotch is nice.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (/rm4P)

88 The extra pounnds I put on at Christmas come almost entirely from cookies and eggnog.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (d6Ksn)

89 It's like a tremendous weight has been lifted from my shoulders! I like Brie! I like quiche!

Posted by: Weasel -Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (MVjcR)

90 Salad shrimp with mayo/sriracha dressing aka hipster 1000 island.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (ZejZP)

91 I've started drinking a cup of coffee in the late afternoons to keep from falling asleep.

I'd be up all night if I did that.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:35 PM (dUJdY)

92 just a few of our favorite Paso zin makers, for those who might be curious

https://www.zinalley. com/

https://opolo. com/

https://huntcellars. com/

https://www.peachycanyon. com/

https://www.bartonfamilywines. com/

http://pvwines. com/

https://www.tobinjames. com/

at our house, we will drink no wine before it is open...

Pixy's being a bitch, so there's a space in front of "com" on each one.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2018 04:35 PM (zJ7J0)

93 Pickled herring goes well with:
Chablis
Chardonnay
Chenin blanc
Riesling

Or icy akvavit.

Posted by: Coriandrum Sativum at December 16, 2018 04:36 PM (twG1r)

94 Nothing wrong with using new mex dried red chilis in a texas chili.
Them chilies are beautiful.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 04:36 PM (SOasJ)

95 It's like a tremendous weight has been lifted from my shoulders! I like Brie! I like quiche!
Posted by: Weasel -Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (MVjcR)

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*Fist bump* I like both myself.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 04:36 PM (ffYR/)

96 From memory, My old egg nog recipe called for 4-5 egg yolks whipped with sugar plus half and half or cream and whiskey. LOTS of calories.

Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:37 PM (XROPS)

97 I've started drinking a cup of coffee in the late afternoons to keep from falling asleep.

I'd be up all night if I did that.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:35 PM (dUJdY)
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That was my worry, but it doesn't seem to be having that effect. I drink dark roast which apparently has less caffeine.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:37 PM (MVjcR)

98 Quiche is a great way to use up leftovers.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:37 PM (vhKHa)

99 "White zin came about 1965 or so because some winery made a big booboo.
Wine partially fermented and still a bit sweet. They arrested
fermentation and figured they could sell cheap to get off their hands. I
cant remember which winery did this, but Beringer was right on their
heels..."
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Gallo?

They really bottled some crap sometimes.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 16, 2018 04:37 PM (9rIkM)

100 It's like a tremendous weight has been lifted from my shoulders! I like Brie! I like quiche!
Posted by: Weasel -Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (MVjcR)

It's because they're tasty.

Headed out to the soul food place to pick up dinner in a few. If anybody wants me to grab something, get your order in before five. I recommend the mei fun.

http://www.lansingchinaflavor.com/

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:38 PM (t+qrx)

101 I also really like chicken pot pie and chicken 'n dumplings. Also, cornbread.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:38 PM (MVjcR)

102 Local Coffee Roaster bakes a PM Blend which is a 1/2 Caf Dark Roast.

For fags.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:38 PM (vhKHa)

103 Oh and don't give me anything other than red zin, none of this blush or pink stuff.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:38 PM (/rm4P)

104 Ohh, found a recipe for artichoke, cr�me cheese, blue cheese and parm. Maybe add some crispy bacon on top.

Thanks for the ideas, horde!!!

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:38 PM (PF4TZ)

105 I AM NOT GAY, but I like Brie cheese. And quiche. There. I've said it.

According to the Paolo, melty Brie is an aphrodisiac. So there's that.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:39 PM (kD8Fh)

106 There's a good brie recipe on p.117 from Tami

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 16, 2018 04:39 PM (EZebt)

107 cream cheese, green onions and something else.
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:29 PM (PF4TZ)

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Bacon?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (5aX2M)

And/or mushrooms for savory

Honey and figs and bacon and goat cheese for sweet.

Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:39 PM (XROPS)

108
It's like a tremendous weight has been lifted from my shoulders! I like Brie! I like quiche!

Posted by: Weasel -Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:34 PM (MVjcR)

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*Fist bump* I like both myself.

Posted by: Calm Mentor
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I like Brie but can't tolerate quiche.

Apparently I'm only a little gay.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 16, 2018 04:39 PM (9rIkM)

109 Zinfindel is a red grape, they seperate the skins so as to lighten the color

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:40 PM (/rm4P)

110 According to the Paolo, melty Brie is an aphrodisiac. So there's that.
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What about Alison Brie?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 16, 2018 04:40 PM (tfbws)

111 From memory, My old egg nog recipe called for 4-5 egg yolks whipped with sugar plus half and half or cream and whiskey. LOTS of calories.
Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:37 PM (XROPS)

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I had a Bailey's recipe that was kinda like that. It used Eagle condensed mike for sweetness, along with the Hershey's chocolate syrup.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 04:40 PM (ffYR/)

112 A lot of those Stomach of Steel images look like they came out of Lileks' "Gallery of Regrettable Foods"...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 16, 2018 04:40 PM (7s3Gx)

113 71 I've started drinking a cup of coffee in the late afternoons to keep from falling asleep.
Posted by: Weasel -Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)
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Why?

Nap >> coffee.

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 16, 2018 04:40 PM (WEBkv)

114 Interesting thing is that different types of chili peppers have different spots in the mouth where they hit you, and how fast the work.

Jalapenos are hot the minute they hit your tongue. I call it a front burn.
Thai and cayenne peppers taste nice, and then after you get over your first apprehension, they grab you by the back of the throat.

Now, I have started making a hot chili oil with dried and ground thai and cayenne peppers, cooked up in sesame oil with chopped garlic.

I mix a tablespoon of thai peppers with a tablespoon of cayenne pepper, a couple of thinly sliced garlic cloves, in with a cup of sesame oil.
I put that in a jelly jar with a canning lid and a ring, put it in a pressure cooker and bring the pressure up to 15 lbs, let it cook there for 5 minutes, and then let it cool down on the stove top.

It makes a very tasty, spicy oil with a smokey taste that takes a couple of beats to start burning.
Very tasty, very suprising.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2018 04:40 PM (mUa7G)

115
Thank you, Fred. Lurk less, talk more.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2018 04:40 PM (LsBY9)

116 Ok, got to decide what for supper, breaded chicken tenders or cheese steak.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:41 PM (/rm4P)

117 A lot of those Stomach of Steel images look like they came out of Lileks' "Gallery of Regrettable Foods
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The Snowy Chicken Mold did. His writeup was a lot funnier.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 16, 2018 04:41 PM (tfbws)

118 >>According to the Paolo, melty Brie is an aphrodisiac. So there's that.

Yea, for women.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2018 04:42 PM (/tuJf)

119 I received some local mesquite olive oil for Christmas. have no idea what to do with it.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 04:42 PM (PF4TZ)

120
Nap >> coffee.
Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 16, 2018 04:40 PM (WEBkv)
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I agree in principle, but I seem to feel like shit once I wake up after a nap.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:42 PM (MVjcR)

121 Tonypete...
Coulda been Gallo.
But i wont waste time on pinko zin research.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 04:43 PM (SOasJ)

122 1 gallon of Gallo burgundy
1 box of raisins
8/10 cinnamon sticks

Warm. The longer it sits the better it gets.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 04:43 PM (mh1zq)

123 And black eyed peas.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:43 PM (MVjcR)

124 I agree in principle, but I seem to feel like shit once I wake up after a nap.

Look at the bright side; ya don't smell like shit !

Posted by: JT at December 16, 2018 04:43 PM (nlUp2)

125 >>I agree in principle, but I seem to feel like shit once I wake up after a nap.

This is why a nice double americano just before a short nap works well. You wake up refreshed and a bit more energetic.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (vhKHa)

126 Our family had the Woman's Day Encyclopedia of
Cooking. It was published in the late 1960s. A lot of the recipes are
dated, and sometimes I try and figure out how to update them, but
nothing I've yet seen in those volumes matches the unappetizing samples
of retro food in the linked piece.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:17 PM (kD8Fh)
James Lileks' "The Gallery of Regrettable Food," filled with repulsive concoctions from the 1950's, (cauliflower in jello, wieners smothered with pimentos) and Lileks' commentary, is one of the funniest books ever. I have to believe people's taste buds were so deadened by martinis in the 50's that they didn't realize they were eating crap.
But I've found even 1980's and 90's cookbooks with color photography can look weirdly unappealing, as if the food was shellacked or else the colors in the photos faded slightly - just enough to make everything look a bit gross.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (d6Ksn)

127 Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:26 PM (kD8Fh)

I like the concept, but I don't like the taste of melted brie (not sure why, or even what specifically I object to). I'd love to know some other options.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (uquGJ)

128 I meant the BEP with cornbread.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (MVjcR)

129 >>1 gallon of Gallo burgundy
1 box of raisins
8/10 cinnamon sticks

>Warm. The longer it sits the better it gets.

I'll mull that over.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (vhKHa)

130 I agree in principle, but I seem to feel like shit once I wake up after a nap.
Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:42 PM (MVjcR)
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Have you tried having a drink after the nap?

I think you should investigate the possibility for science.

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (WEBkv)

131 Stacy Quiche was good as Mike Hammer. Otherwise, meh.

Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (Z9C5C)

132
I like the concept, but I don't like the taste of melted brie (not sure why, or even what specifically I object to). I'd love to know some other options.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (uquGJ)
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Hi Polliwog -maybe the Camembert mentioned earlier? I'm not sure that I've ever had it.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:46 PM (MVjcR)

133 Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2018 04:30 PM (ZejZP)

That's pretty much a crab-cheese wonton.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 16, 2018 04:46 PM (uquGJ)

134 Camembert is best if you leave it out for an hour or so. It gets super creamy at room temps.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:47 PM (vhKHa)

135 Chou Farci, the French dish with bacon might be ok, cabbage stuffed with 3 meats, though in France meat is a questionable term.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:47 PM (/rm4P)

136 I built my own wine cellar, 'cause manly men do stuff like that. Lots of racks. In theory it could hold a thousand bottles.

[. . .]
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 16, 2018 04:07 PM (jYje5)

Ya know, J(ampersand)B fifths fit in those wine racks too. Come to think of it, so does Hood River Vodka, should it come to that

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2018 04:47 PM (mUa7G)

137
8 people, so far, died in those French protests.
French govt is using TEAR GAS and water cannons on its own citizens.

Posted by: The Willower at December 16, 2018 04:47 PM (EBsT+)

138
Have you tried having a drink after the nap?

I think you should investigate the possibility for science.
Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 16, 2018 04:44 PM (WEBkv)
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I think it's the nap itself that's problematic. It's not restful at all and I have crazy little half dreams from being semi-conscious.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:48 PM (MVjcR)

139 105
I AM NOT GAY, but I like Brie cheese. And quiche. There. I've said it.

According to the Paolo, melty Brie is an aphrodisiac. So there's that.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2018 04:39 PM (kD8Fh)

Hey, ace was very much into the stinky French cheeses, like eppoises, for a while. It helped him learn the frog talk and kept up his strength during bouts of heroic shelf-building.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 04:48 PM (d6Ksn)

140 Blue cheese, honey and a walnut.

Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:49 PM (XROPS)

141 I'm very suspicious of those numbers. Very. One egg
is 60 calories. My daily caloric intake is just a little over 1,200. I
can't imagine an 8 ounce drink with that many calories unless it's pure
alcohol and pure butter fat.

Which would actually be pretty damn tasty.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 16, 2018 04:29 PM (jYje5)

12 Eggs

1 cup Sugar

1 cup Milk

2 cups Bailey's Irish Cream

6 cups Heavy Cream
no alcohol in base recipe

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2018 04:49 PM (mpXpK)

142 Hey! Here's a fun cocktail I found in an online video for the late night NBC guy. He sucks but this cocktail looked good so I tried it.

There were no measurements, as the cocktail was from some restaurant, but it looked easy to duplicate and was.

This is for two people.

Step 1:

Finely grate an English cucumber, jalapeno, and ginger root. Roughly between one to two tsp of each. You can vary the amounts based on what you like. For
If you want your cocktail lighter and more refreshing, heavy on the cucumber and ginger. If you like spicy, heavier on the jalapeno.
Put that inside your shaker.

Step 2:

Add:

1 oz simple syrup
2 oz fresh lime juice

Step 3:

Here's where you also get to make a choice:
The original recipe was for vodka but it also works well with gin.

However, what really works best is:

Mezcal from San Luis Potosi!

Most of the mezcals from SLP don't have a smokey flavor, so if you hate smokiness...Don't worry.
These mezcals have a fruity flavor with a strong hint of green pepper flavor and it really blends well with this combination. I'll recommend a few below.

Okay. So...Step 3:

3 oz of vodka or gin or mezcal.

Step 4:

Shake with ice. Strain. (Don't worry too much about getting every little bit of grating out. Makes the cocktail look yummier - like confetti of deliciousness.

Drink!

Try it today! It's stupidly easy and...

You'll love it.

San Luis Potosi Mezcals - Made from Agave Salmiana

1) Mescals De Leyenda San Luis Potosi

2) Mezcal Derrumbes San Luis Potosi

3) Miel De Tierra Joven Agave Salmiana

4) Cobardes Mezcal Salmiana Joven

5) Wild Shot (this one is smokey - imported by a CW singer, who I guess is trying to be the Jimmy Buffett of Mezcal. Tastes good though, if you like or don't mind smokiness.)

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2018 04:49 PM (9X624)

143 I prefer Teleme to brie as a soft cheese. Soft asiago is a revelation.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 04:50 PM (mh1zq)

144 140
Blue cheese, honey and a walnut.

Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:49 PM (XROPS)

Yes! Or Camembert and apricot or fig preserves.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 04:50 PM (d6Ksn)

145 I don't drink wine, but I do make my own grape juice that I can in quart canning jars.

They sit in the pantry, and some of them start precipitating tartaric acid crystals. I had one that came out of the bottom of the jar that was about the size of a kernel of dried corn. Very spiky and a lovely amethyst color

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2018 04:50 PM (mUa7G)

146 I think it's the nap itself that's problematic. It's not restful at all and I have crazy little half dreams from being semi-conscious.
Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:48 PM (MVjcR)

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With me, naps that are restful are about 3 hours long, it seems. Then sleep for the night is crap. I can't seem to do the 20-30 minute recommended time frame.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 04:51 PM (ffYR/)

147 I'm a sucker for a good Triple Creme, too.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:51 PM (vhKHa)

148 Salad shrimp with mayo/sriracha dressing

YUHP.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2018 04:51 PM (ZejZP)

149 Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2018 04:49 PM (9X624)

Sounds great. I may try it with 1800 silver.

Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:51 PM (XROPS)

150 Blue cheese, honey and a walnut.

Posted by: LASue
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You wouldn't be a single 'ette, would you?

Wait a minute.
I'm married.
Shit.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 16, 2018 04:51 PM (9rIkM)

151 Back in the day built many wine racks, for restaurants and homes, made a storage bin under my stairs and have 2 wine cabinets, alas can't afford to fill them. Had over 100 bottles at one time, drank them up without replacing them.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:52 PM (/rm4P)

152 With me, naps that are restful are about 3 hours
long, it seems. Then sleep for the night is crap. I can't seem to do the
20-30 minute recommended time frame.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 04:51 PM (ffYR/)
Same here. I wish I could cat nap for 20 minutes and feel refreshed, but I can't.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 04:52 PM (d6Ksn)

153 Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:42 PM (MVjcR)

Maybe dehydrated? I noticed I didn't feel awful after a nap once I started having a big glass of water with lemon juice as soon as I got up. It made a big difference.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 16, 2018 04:52 PM (uquGJ)

154 I think it's the nap itself that's problematic. It's not restful at all and I have crazy little half dreams from being semi-conscious.
Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:48 PM (MVjcR)

garrett is onto it at #125. If I nap fifteen minutes too short or too long, I'm cranky and groggy. About 20 minutes is perfect, just get up and move as soon as I wake up instead of lying around.

Also napping just before sunset makes me feel like I've wasted the day because it's after dark when I wake up, even if I was up before sunrise and doing things all day.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:53 PM (t+qrx)

155 143 I prefer Teleme to brie as a soft cheese. Soft asiago is a revelation.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 04:50 PM (mh1zq)
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Not sure I've had Teleme, either. At least not that I'm aware of. We have a quarterly reception at the office and all sort of fancy stuff is served, including a lot of different cheese. Maybe I should ask what it is sometime.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:53 PM (MVjcR)

156 Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2018 04:49 PM (9X624)

Sounds great. I may try it with 1800 silver.
Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:51 PM (XROPS)

Absolutely, tequila would work.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2018 04:53 PM (9X624)

157
Maybe dehydrated? I noticed I didn't feel awful after a nap once I started having a big glass of water with lemon juice as soon as I got up. It made a big difference.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 16, 2018 04:52 PM (uquGJ)
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Truth be told, I'm pretty sure it's my sleep apnea that's causing the nap issue.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:54 PM (MVjcR)

158 Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 04:46 PM (MVjcR)

I don't think I've ever tried Camembert. I'll have to look it up.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 16, 2018 04:54 PM (uquGJ)

159 137 sad to see people die, but when the 12pdrs come out shooting canister it could be a real blood bath.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:55 PM (/rm4P)

160 Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2018 04:49 PM

Mincemeat recipe inbound.

This will probably land me in the Barrel, but I'll take one for the team today. Can't make me feel worse than I already do.

*holds breath*

*pastes*

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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 04:55 PM (Uw2PZ)

161 Well. That worked beautifully.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 04:56 PM (Uw2PZ)

162 RedMindBlueState please report to the barrel...

Posted by: junior at December 16, 2018 04:56 PM (Fp6vo)

163 There are apertifs in the Barrel.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:57 PM (vhKHa)

164 Soft asiago is a revelation

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It certainly is to me!!!

Soft asiago acquisition is now my primary objective.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 16, 2018 04:57 PM (5aX2M)

165 There's a *soft* asiago? I don't think I could use it for Christmas though since asiago is one of the cheeses that wrecks my sister's stomach.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 16, 2018 04:57 PM (uquGJ)

166 I've been making the simplest and easiest of sandwiches for dinner lately. A chicken breast and a fried egg on a buttered roll. The yolk should be runny so you can mop it up with your roll. For whatever reason, the egg really makes the chicken breast taste better and vice versa.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 04:57 PM (d6Ksn)

167 Same here. I wish I could cat nap for 20 minutes and feel refreshed, but I can't.

Power nap. I go to the park if I have a little break at work. Put the seat all the way back and just lay back. Better if it's a sunny day. I don't actually sleep but sort of drift in and out. Feel much better after. Usually do that for about 20 minutes. Only on the days when I have zero energy.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:57 PM (dUJdY)

168 Weasel- often after work in afternoon I set my tablet alarm for no more than 20 minutes, nap aout and get up when alarm goes off. This doesn't seem to effect the nighttime. If I sleep longer 45 minutes or more it does .

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:57 PM (/rm4P)

169 Blue cheese, honey and a walnut.
Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 04:49 PM (XROPS)

Well, this escalated into an odd but interesting game of "f, marry, kill" quickly. I already know what I'd pick, but I'll let everyone else think it over first.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 04:58 PM (t+qrx)

170 Fine. I hope the Barrel catches whatever it is I have.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 04:58 PM (Uw2PZ)

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Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 16, 2018 04:58 PM (EBsT+)

172 Well, I can't top #160, but Infidel, do you have the cookbook? Eris has a great appetizer that uses phyllo cups. I'm not home so can't look it up for you, sorry!

Posted by: bluebell ~ sign up now for the NoVaMoMe! at December 16, 2018 04:58 PM (uP/Wc)

173 163
There are apertifs in the Barrel.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:57 PM (vhKHa)

Also eggnog! Oh, wait. That's not eggnog.....

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 04:58 PM (d6Ksn)

174

What are you running, Windows 95?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 16, 2018 04:59 PM (EBsT+)

175 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 04:55 PM

Why?

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 04:59 PM (/rm4P)

176 >>I've been making the simplest and easiest of sandwiches for dinner lately. A chicken breast and a fried egg on a buttered roll. The yolk should be runny so you can mop it up with your roll. For whatever reason, the egg really makes the chicken breast taste better and vice versa.

That would be good with a slice of apple (fried in the bacon grease), and bacons.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:59 PM (vhKHa)

177 @170 Fine. I hope the Barrel catches whatever it is I have.
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Don't worry. I'm sure that the barrel already has it.

Posted by: junior at December 16, 2018 04:59 PM (Fp6vo)

178 CBD, since we're on the pork discussion, I'm working a new dinner recipe based of your link to the sorghum bacon. One more round of polishing it up and I will spill to you/horde for feedback. I used TOO much smoke in last rev, per needed time of hitting temp in the Pit Barrel. Still having tough time pairing a good side...

Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 16, 2018 04:59 PM (nbwH3)

179 Roquefort, roast garlic and sunflower seed

Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2018 05:00 PM (Z9C5C)

180 I love those frosted party loaves. I tried to make one and it was a disaster, so I applaud anyone who can.I

That pork shoulder recipe sounds great, but what kind of beer is bitter? Just any old IPA?

Posted by: Gem at December 16, 2018 05:01 PM (XoAz8)

181
Well. That worked beautifully.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 04:56 PM (Uw2PZ)

"Recipes from The Barrel", by RedMindBlueState

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2018 05:01 PM (LsBY9)

182 It makes a very tasty, spicy oil with a smokey taste that takes a couple of beats to start burning.
Very tasty, very suprising.

I'm playing around with infusions and a whipping siphon and something like this is next on the list...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 16, 2018 05:01 PM (7s3Gx)

183

Fake News told me the French protests are about "the rise in fuel costs."

That was today. They reported 8 dead in the protests like it was nothing.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 16, 2018 05:01 PM (EBsT+)

184 That would be good with a slice of apple (fried in the bacon grease), and bacons.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:59 PM (vhKHa)
Good idea. I came up with it when I had nothing in the fridge for dinner except butter, eggs and chicken breasts. But bacon and apple would certainly be nice additions.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 05:02 PM (d6Ksn)

185 Good question. Pixy wouldn't let me post initially and I thought I deleted everything. Apparently not.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:02 PM (Uw2PZ)

186 Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2018 05:00 PM (Z9C5C)

Are we back to the random recipes from last week?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 16, 2018 05:02 PM (uquGJ)

187 Well, I can't top #160, but Infidel, do you have the cookbook? Eris has a great appetizer that uses phyllo cups. I'm not home so can't look it up for you, sorry!
Posted by: bluebell ~ sign up now for the NoVaMoMe! at December 16, 2018 04:58 PM (uP/Wc)

I've got it here, but it includes Manchego, and feta was ruled out as too exotic an ingredient.

"freak food", actually.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 16, 2018 05:02 PM (t+qrx)

188 I do the Fried Apple slice, Bacon and Gruyere on a Roll a lot during the fall.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 05:03 PM (vhKHa)

189 We bought a few bottles of Italian primitivo at Gocery Outlet a couple of months ago for $4 a bottle. Wonderful stuff. Should've bought a case.

On the food front, on Friday night I whipped up a dinner consisting of spinach and avocado salad, salt encrusted roast beef tenderloin, crispy roasted potatoes, and creamed spinach. Pretty damn good if I do say so myself.

Also have my second loaf of sourdough proofing right now. Made the first loaf a few days ago, it was very good but did not have much of a sourdough flavor.

Posted by: Average Guy at December 16, 2018 05:03 PM (knFcS)

190 Prune Whip. On the menu at CYO Camp in 1969. I don't know if it was bad or good. I wouldn't eat it to find out.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 05:03 PM (RfzVr)

191 Well, I can't top #160, but Infidel, do you have the cookbook? Eris
has a great appetizer that uses phyllo cups. I'm not home so can't look
it up for you, sorry!

Posted by: bluebell ~ sign up now for the NoVaMoMe! at December 16, 2018 04:58 PM

Sure, mock my pain.

If you can get in touch with Naturalfake, I'd be happy to email you the mincemeat recipe.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:05 PM (Uw2PZ)

192 Good question. Pixy wouldn't let me post initially and I thought I deleted everything. Apparently not.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:02 PM (Uw2PZ)

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Hogmartin put up a good ascii character scrubber that is helpful for C&P.

stoatnet.org/ace

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 05:05 PM (ffYR/)

193 'Just a little whip
of your
precious prune
would satisfy
my soul'

Posted by: Jack Bruce at December 16, 2018 05:05 PM (vhKHa)

194 YD, I hope you can find it. The store here carried it one time and I bought all they had after I tried it. Haven't seen it since.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:05 PM (mh1zq)

195
On the food front, on Friday night I whipped up a dinner consisting of spinach and avocado salad, salt encrusted roast beef tenderloin, crispy roasted potatoes, and creamed spinach. Pretty damn good if I do say so myself.

Wow, that all sounds awesome!

Posted by: Gem at December 16, 2018 05:06 PM (XoAz8)

196 "lol.. I noticed they put green chili on everything! Some of the best breakfasts I ever had though were in ABQ. Had an omelette one time there that was to die for. Smothered in green chili"

Again, it's "chile" here

It's not unusual to eat green chile 3 times a day: Green chile breakfast burrito, green chile cheeseburger then green chile enchiladas.

Posted by: Fred Weldon at December 16, 2018 05:06 PM (g8bPc)

197 OK...let's see if this works.

Holiday Mincemeat
(Yield 12 to 14 Cups)
2 lbs lean beef brisket
1 bay leaf
6 whole peppercorns
2 tsp salt
� lb beef suet
2 C raisins
2 C currants
4 C apples, peeled and chopped
� C diced citron (optional)
� C diced orange peel (no pith)
� C diced lemon peel (no pith)
1 C granulated sugar
1 tsp fresh grated nutmeg
1 tsp cinnamon
� tsp allspice
� tsp ground cloves
Brandy or other spirits
1. Place the brisket in a pot just large enough to hold it and cover with water. Bring water to a boil, add bay leaf, peppercorns and 1 tsp of salt, and reduce to a simmer. Cover and cook the meat for 2 � to 3 hours, or until it can be shredded with two forks. Cool. Shred. (Note: I find it can take up to four hours depending on the brisket)
2. Finely chop the beef suet and add to the brisket (a little vegetable oil on the blade will keep the suet from sticking to the knife).
3. Mix the shredded brisket and all remaining ingredients except the brandy in a large bowl.
4. Spoon into 1 qt Mason jars. Fill jars with brandy until just covered. Put on lid (without the rubber gasket) and let stand on the counter for at least two weeks. Top up with more spirits as the fruit absorbs it (tasting the spirits, of course, to ensure no one did anything to them while your back was turned).
5. When ready to make pie, use one jar of mincemeat. Drain mincemeat well, reserving the now very well flavored brandy, and heat in a skillet for a few minutes to drive off alcohol (otherwise, it can be a bit boozy). Add to 4 C chopped apples, pears or both, stir to mix well.
6. The pie has a top and bottom crust. I use Pilsbury ready-made pie crust. Fill pie crusts, seal, egg wash, and bake as per the instructions on the crust (I think it's about 400 deg for about an hour).

Note: I save the drained brandy and reduce it to make a syrup. Do this on low heat and be VERY careful. The vapors will ignite spectacularly otherwise. Mix in a little cream if you want to make a nice sauce. Serve with a nice slice of aged, extra sharp cheddar, or other favorite cheese, a mug of smoking bishop, and enjoy Christmas in a very Dickensian fashion.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:07 PM (Uw2PZ)

198 Infidel, Mesquite anything is good in moderation. If you didn't want to use a grill, inside with most beef (too strong for other meats usually), could be used in a wet rub / poultice with salt and pepper on steaks or roast.

Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 16, 2018 05:07 PM (nbwH3)

199 Hogmartin put up a good ascii character scrubber that is helpful for CP.

stoatnet.org/ace

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 05:05 PM

Thanks!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:08 PM (Uw2PZ)

200 It's not unusual to eat green chile 3 times a day: Green chile breakfast burrito, green chile cheeseburger then green chile enchiladas.

The Bobby Flay menu.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 05:08 PM (vhKHa)

201 >>>Are we back to the random recipes from last week?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette<<<

Michelin comes to me when they want their tires tested and their food critiqued.

Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2018 05:09 PM (Z9C5C)

202 Wow, that all sounds awesome!
Posted by: Gem at December 16, 2018 05:06 PM (XoAz

Yes indeed. The roast recipe came from the food wishes blog/YouTube channel, as did the creamed spinach. The potato recipe came from serious eats.

Posted by: Average Guy at December 16, 2018 05:10 PM (knFcS)

203 RedMindBlue State,

That looks good.

Do you have the key for the Secret Diamond Quanities?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2018 05:11 PM (9X624)

204 Prune Whip. On the menu at CYO Camp in 1969. I don't know if it was bad or good. I wouldn't eat it to find out.
Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 05:03

A restaurant I tended bar for served prune whip as a special sometimes. Heard a waitress say...We have prune whip on special today. I know it sounds disgusting but Dixie likes it. (Dixie was one of the owners.)

Posted by: Farmer at December 16, 2018 05:11 PM (yJ1e6)

205 Fake News told me the French protests are about "the rise in fuel costs."

That was today. They reported 8 dead in the protests like it was nothing.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 16, 2018 05:01 PM

Pretty sure they didn't mention the dude who had his hand blown off from a 'flash grenade'. Because it's just like flash dancing or something.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 16, 2018 05:11 PM (jYje5)

206 I must ask...what is a 'mug of smoking bishop'?

The pie sounds delish!

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 05:12 PM (SOasJ)

207 Well, I can't top #160, but Infidel, do you have the cookbook? Eris has a great appetizer that uses phyllo cups. I'm not home so can't look it up for you, sorry!

Posted by: bluebell

Page 133. Sounds good, would have to replace the cherries. Hmm.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 05:12 PM (PF4TZ)

208 Ack, sheep milk.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 05:14 PM (PF4TZ)

209 On last night's ONT Miley linked to this pork tenderloin recipe she had just made for publius and herself. Publius said it was so good he licked the plate clean. (Of course that may have been an euphemism knowing those two.)

Here's her link -

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y73rm2bp

Oh my gosh it is mouthwatering. I am making it Tuesday.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 05:14 PM (RfzVr)

210 I don't drink it. Only cook with it.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 04:02 PM (vhKHa)

You should follow the Keith Floyd method, One bottle goes in the meal and one bottle goes in me

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 16, 2018 05:14 PM (SiINZ)

211 Do you have the key for the Secret Diamond Quanities?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2018 05:11 PM

Carp. Wait one.

I must ask...what is a 'mug of smoking bishop'?

The pie sounds delish!

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 05:12 PM

It's a warm mulled wine. See The Deplorable Gourmet.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:14 PM (Uw2PZ)

212 Had a veddy British boyfriend who made buttered toast (on really good bread) and then spread softened Camembert on it. Extremely wonderful. Great fot tea.
Also the guy who taught me the best sandwich: Good bread, softened cream cheese, sliced black olives. All that's required. However, it's even better if the bread is toasted and you add sprouts and tomatoes (my own iteration).
Finally, he told me never to eat French Toast (he was half French) without real maple syrup.

Posted by: Akua Makana at December 16, 2018 05:15 PM (YkUJb)

213 Speaking of New Mexico chiles, it brings to mind one of my favorite bits of trivia. Like most states, New Mexico has a state bird, etc., but to my knowledge, it's the only state with a State Question. Which is, of course "red or green?"

Don't believe it? Check it out at the NM Secretary of State's site.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at December 16, 2018 05:15 PM (S+f+m)

214 The diamond quantities are "1/2".

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:16 PM (Uw2PZ)

215 >>>Finally, he told me never to eat French Toast (he was half French) without real maple syrup.<<<

You forgot the salt and pepper. And cinnamon. Some swear by nutmeg, but that's just a little too "busy" for me.

Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2018 05:19 PM (Z9C5C)

216 212
Had a veddy British boyfriend who made buttered toast (on really good
bread) and then spread softened Camembert on it. Extremely wonderful.
Great fot tea.

Also the guy who taught me the best sandwich: Good bread, softened
cream cheese, sliced black olives. All that's required. However, it's
even better if the bread is toasted and you add sprouts and tomatoes (my
own iteration).

Finally, he told me never to eat French Toast (he was half French) without real maple syrup.

Posted by: Akua Makana at December 16, 2018 05:15 PM (YkUJb)
This all sounds wonderful.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 05:21 PM (d6Ksn)

217 I'll put cinnamon on French toast, but salt and pepper? And I've found challah bread makes the best french toast.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at December 16, 2018 05:22 PM (d6Ksn)

218 Diamond is the best!
Thanks for the smokin bishop.
That seems the perfect libation to the pie.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 05:23 PM (SOasJ)

219 WOW. I have only visited this site 13,089 times since 2012.(according to firefox). I really need to step up my game. ha.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 05:24 PM (RZWC0)

220 >> challah bread makes the best french toast.

Yep. Brioche is second best.

But the crust on the challah makes it so much better.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 05:25 PM (vhKHa)

221 I always add nutmeg and vanilla to the egg mixture. Also use heavy cream.

I use molasses as a topping.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:25 PM (mh1zq)

222 Speaking of New Mexico chiles, it brings to mind one of my favorite bits of trivia. Like most states, New Mexico has a state bird, etc., but to my knowledge, it's the only state with a State Question. Which is, of course "red or green?"

Don't believe it? Check it out at the NM Secretary of State's site.
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at December 16, 2018 05:15 PM (S+f+m)

I see roadrunners all the time here in the foothills of the Manzano Mountains, there's a couple living right behind us.

You can also order "Christmas", which is both red & green chile.

Posted by: Fred Weldon at December 16, 2018 05:25 PM (g8bPc)

223 Just finished baking lemon cheesecake cookies, pecan toffee shortbread cookies, and chocolate crinkle cookies. I have red velvet crinkle and sugar cookies left to make. It's a bake-a-thon over here.

Posted by: no good deed at December 16, 2018 05:26 PM (uTY3H)

224 >>> I have only visited this site 13,089 times since 2012.(according to firefox)

Where does look to find this sort of information?

Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 05:27 PM (RfzVr)

225 Some swear by nutmeg, but that's just a little too "busy" for me.

I put orange zest in the wash and use challah.

Posted by: no good deed at December 16, 2018 05:27 PM (uTY3H)

226 OopsI meant green chile lol!
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 04:33 PM (dUJdY)

Esta bien, I'll let it slide

Posted by: Fred Weldon at December 16, 2018 05:27 PM (g8bPc)

227
You can also order "Christmas", which is both red & green chile.
Posted by: Fred Weldon at December 16, 2018 05:25 PM (g8bPc)
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That reminds me of a trip we made to Santa Fe a few years ago. Amazing food. Almost as good as that at Ben Had's TxMoMe this year.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:28 PM (MVjcR)

228 219- 13,089 times visited And commented?

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 05:30 PM (/rm4P)

229 Weasel, Yebel is already working on the menu for next year. He is really excited about it.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:30 PM (mh1zq)

230 I remember staying in Sante Fe NM on a two week family road trip as a kid. We went to all sorts of places. There was a buffalo ranch in OK. Anyway, we went to this church in Santa Fe that had a circular staircase made of wood and no center pole or handrails. It was amazing to see.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 05:31 PM (PF4TZ)

231 >>I put orange zest in the wash and use challah.

Grand Marnier

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 05:31 PM (vhKHa)

232 and the food was good too.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 05:31 PM (PF4TZ)

233 229 Weasel, Yebel is already working on the menu for next year. He is really excited about it.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:30 PM (mh1zq)
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SWEET! I was hoping that would be the case!!

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:31 PM (MVjcR)

234 Made a new discovery of an old product. We had a nice lunch at the local Cracker Barrel and were checking out when I noticed a long forgotten wrapper in the candy section. It was a Chunky Bar with peanuts and raisins, the big square kind. Didn't know they were still made.

Damn, the thing is delicious! I don't know if it's a different recipe for the chocolate itself or the combination of peanuts and raisins with the milk chocolate. But it is so tasty I have to limit myself to a nibble now and then to keep from scarfing the whole thing down.

Just FYI.

Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 05:31 PM (bmdz3)

235 219 I don't think I want to know, might have that many this year alone.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 05:31 PM (/rm4P)

236 >> 13,089 times visited And commented?

That's a slow week for sven.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 05:32 PM (vhKHa)

237 233 Ben Had

That would be fantastic. Hard to believe this year[s meal can be topped.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2018 05:33 PM (hyuyC)

238 I see roadrunners all the time here in the foothills of the Manzano Mountains, there's a couple living right behind us.

I've seen them a few times. So cute

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 05:33 PM (dUJdY)

239 Does anyone still decant wine before serving?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2018 05:33 PM (Z+IKu)

240 230 I remember staying in Sante Fe NM on a two week family road trip as a kid. We went to all sorts of places. There was a buffalo ranch in OK. Anyway, we went to this church in Santa Fe that had a circular staircase made of wood and no center pole or handrails. It was amazing to see.
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 05:31 PM (PF4TZ)
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It's still there! Very close to the hotel we stayed in.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:33 PM (MVjcR)

241 Made a new discovery of an old product. We had a
nice lunch at the local Cracker Barrel and were checking out when I
noticed a long forgotten wrapper in the candy section. It was a Chunky
Bar with peanuts and raisins, the big square kind. Didn't know they were
still made.

Posted by: JTB
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Did they have Bun candy bars? Loved them back in the day but boy, they were a bellyache in a wrapper.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 16, 2018 05:33 PM (9rIkM)

242 235 - 250 comments a week gives 12,500 a year

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 05:34 PM (/rm4P)

243 I think you only need to Dechant Trapist Ales.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2018 05:34 PM (vhKHa)

244 219 t-dubya-d

Hard to quit the Horde.

I shudder to think about how many times I've been here. I could have worked out instead and be hulking out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2018 05:34 PM (hyuyC)

245 NaCly, have to keep upping the game. Dessert will be sopapillas

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:35 PM (mh1zq)

246 Does anyone still decant wine before serving?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

Yes, especially red.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 05:35 PM (PF4TZ)

247
There was a discussion on the ONT last night about Waffle House, Huddle House and other local/regional restaurants. Comment was that someone hadn't seen a Huddle House in years.

I hadn't either, so did a search. Turns out, there are lots of HHs locally, just only in small towns. Menu looks delicious.

Closest one is about ten miles away. Planning a breakfast run soon...

Posted by: Spun & Murky at December 16, 2018 05:35 PM (4DCSq)

248 2-Buck Chuck has a Zinfandel sold in Ca., $2 at Trader Joe's. Berringer's has a white zin for around $8, I think the best in the price range.

Posted by: potadas at December 16, 2018 05:35 PM (EFKmz)

249 Where does look to find this sort of information?
Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 05:27 PM (RfzVr)
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Better question is, why?

Not information I really care to know, mainly because it might mean I need an AoS intervention.

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 16, 2018 05:35 PM (WEBkv)

250 242 235 - 250 comments a week gives 12,500 a year
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 05:34 PM (/rm4P)
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No math!

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:35 PM (MVjcR)

251 Address bar. Tracking attempts blocked. little shield on there Click on that. then the arrow by connections. Then "more info" at the bottom. Shocking!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 05:36 PM (RZWC0)

252 Damn, the thing is delicious! I don't know if it's a different recipe for the chocolate itself or the combination of peanuts and raisins with the milk chocolate. But it is so tasty I have to limit myself to a nibble now and then to keep from scarfing the whole thing down.

Just FYI.
Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 05:31 PM (bmdz3)

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Candy bars like that have a life expectancy of 30 minutes or less from the time that I purchase them. I have to ignore the candy aisles and the checkout displays or I would be 30 lbs. heavier. I indulge once a week or so.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 05:36 PM (ffYR/)

253 Fritz, salt and pepper on French Toast? Mais non!
However, I do see that if you are out of real maple syrup, you could put cinnamon and/or nutmeg on the melting butter.
The best bread for French Toast (sorry Phillipe) is King's Hawaiian.

Posted by: Akua Makana at December 16, 2018 05:37 PM (YkUJb)

254 I strictly limit treats like candybars to when I'm at WeaselAcres. And also when I'm at home.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:38 PM (MVjcR)

255 Um, CBD, I think there's something really wrong with that website that you link in the sidebar for this article: "Britain's political class could see a revolution like they've never seen before," yellow vests UK warn. They have a nice template courtesy of the good ol' USA. [CBD]
The "previous article" at that link has this final paragraph:
"It seems that migrant criminality makes Middle aged years look like a child's playground as the current situation in Europe attests."
?

Posted by: m at December 16, 2018 05:39 PM (QfXC4)

256 sorry to harsh the food thread mellow, but FMR... why is this pissant not already in Federal PMITA prison?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-15/mueller
-scrubbed-messages-peter-strzoks-iphone-
oig-recovers-19000-new-fbi-lovebird

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2018 05:39 PM (zJ7J0)

257 Thanks for the smokin bishop.
That seems the perfect libation to the pie.
Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 05:23 PM

No problem. For those who have a copy, it's on page 19 of TDG.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:39 PM (Uw2PZ)

258 Dessert will be sopapillas

Oh my...

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 05:40 PM (dUJdY)

259
No problem. For those who have a copy, it's on page 19 of TDG.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:39 PM (Uw2PZ)
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Everyone should damn well better have a copy!!

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:40 PM (MVjcR)

260 Weasel, Loretto Chapel. Just looked it up. Amazing history.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 05:40 PM (PF4TZ)

261 239 yes you are supposed to, it aerates the wine and can help.
I don't often but have for some wines a large balloon glass to swirl the wine.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 05:41 PM (/rm4P)

262 The problem with candy bars is that they don't make any appropriately sized for a King.

Posted by: Abdullah II bin Al-Hussein at December 16, 2018 05:41 PM (vhKHa)

263 Dessert will be sopapillas
Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:35 PM (mh1zq)
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Can I have 12?

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:41 PM (MVjcR)

264 Weasel, you may have all you want.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:42 PM (mh1zq)

265 2-Buck Chuck has a Zinfandel sold in Ca., $2 at Trader Joe's. Berringer's has a white zin for around $8, I think the best in the price range.
Posted by: potadas at December 16, 2018 05:35 PM

Speak for yourself

Posted by: Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board at December 16, 2018 05:43 PM (/rm4P)

266 It says "have I visited this site prior to today". Answer is YES 13,089 times. Maybe that includes my last 2 laptops. Been here since "lace wigs" and "pipe fittings" etc; Usually don't comment tho.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 05:43 PM (RZWC0)

267
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 16, 2018 05:43 PM (KCxzN)

268 Yay, food! All these yummy recipes and ideas, and I still wonder what's for supper?

Been sick since Thursday night, haven't been up and about much until today and *finally* feel like I could eat just a little.

And then, poof!, the energy is gone again.

Eggnog, yum, haven't had it for several years.

Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2018 05:43 PM (zMzA6)

269 t-dubya-d

Thank you. Interesting. O.o

Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 05:43 PM (RfzVr)

270
260 Weasel, Loretto Chapel. Just looked it up. Amazing history.
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 05:40 PM (PF4TZ)
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Yep! There's also a place on the high road to Taos that is a pilgrimage site. Can't recall the name offhand.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:43 PM (MVjcR)

271 241 ... TonyPete, I think the Cracker Barrel carried them. I never heard of them myself but maybe they wern't sold in New England when I was a kid. Mrs. JTB believes she saw them there a few days ago.

Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 05:44 PM (bmdz3)

272 Jewells, I hope you can make it.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:44 PM (mh1zq)

273 Loretto Chapel

It's now (at least 1999-200) in private hands, not affiliated with the Church.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 16, 2018 05:45 PM (MwFQu)

274 Most folks decant to show off.....

I enjoyed a quadruple of st. Bernardus recently and it had a sizeable bit of sediment...and no problem. It was jammy good.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 05:46 PM (SOasJ)

275 One last question....whatever happened to claret?

When I was a kid, all the old English drunks in the novels/movies drank it like mamma's milk.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2018 05:46 PM (Z+IKu)

276 El Santuario de Chimay� In Chamayo, NM.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:47 PM (MVjcR)

277 Old bottles decant positively, settlement is horrible

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 05:47 PM (/rm4P)

278 Best Egg Nog recipe.

1) grab car keys
2) go to liquor/grocery store (your state may vary.)
3) Purchase Evan Williams Egg Nog. 30 proof.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 16, 2018 05:48 PM (Dhht7)

279 Reckon I should slap something together for the gun thread.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:49 PM (MVjcR)

280 Beware of red wines that have "Terra" in the name.

They bottled part of the dirt in it.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:49 PM (mh1zq)

281 Me too Ben. Planning on it.. just hope the money part works out and I still need to figure out if I want to drive or fly.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 05:50 PM (dUJdY)

282 281 Me too Ben. Planning on it.. just hope the money part works out and I still need to figure out if I want to drive or fly.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 05:50 PM (dUJdY)
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Hope it works out, Jewells!

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:51 PM (MVjcR)

283 I made me a grilled cheese sandwich for supper tonight, accompanied by Lay's potato chips and a Diet Coke.

Posted by: ALH at December 16, 2018 05:51 PM (cS3Yq)

284 Oh. And i had a pic of my sons dog in the pet thread once. Sitting in front of Trump Tower in Chi town! That right there gives me bragging rights!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 05:51 PM (RZWC0)

285 CBD, Thanks for another fun food thread and for letting me know about the old style Zinfandel. I don't just sit around and drink wine but enjoy it with a meal. And the classic Zin sounds like it would go great with one of my heartier soups or stews.

Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 05:52 PM (bmdz3)

286 One last question....whatever happened to claret?

When I was a kid, all the old English drunks in the novels/movies drank it like mamma's milk.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2018 05:46 PM

Nothing. They just started calling it Bordeaux again.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 05:52 PM (Uw2PZ)

287 Me too Weasel. Whatever I earn next year in shows goes to the Ben Had Mo Mee!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 05:53 PM (dUJdY)

288 Hope i don't seem like a troll. Back to lurking!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 05:54 PM (RZWC0)

289 Jewells45

I can drive you, if you want. What's a couple of more hours in an 11 hour drive.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2018 05:54 PM (hyuyC)

290 For those who don't know, Jewells has an Etsy shop for jewelry. Click on her nic when you see it. Buying something is best, but it also helps her when she has a higher click numbers.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 05:54 PM (ffYR/)

291 Jewells45

The creations of Jewells45 have made my wife happy. Priceless.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2018 05:55 PM (hyuyC)

292 Jewells, we will definitely have to have some of your wares for door prizes again.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:55 PM (mh1zq)

293 Salty that's great!! Still planning on a trip to see you and wifey in the spring. Maybe we can plan the October trip!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 05:55 PM (dUJdY)

294 I made me a grilled cheese sandwich for supper tonight, accompanied by Lay's potato chips and a Diet Coke.

Posted by: ALH at December 16, 2018 05:51 PM (cS3Yq)
Well la di dah, miss one percenter.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 05:56 PM (RfzVr)

295 Jewells45 has made dazzling special creations for me, for further transfer to my wife.

Plus she is responsible for the foil-covered cowboy hat given as a door prize at Ben Had's recent TxMoMeet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2018 05:57 PM (hyuyC)

296 More than happy to do it Ben.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 05:57 PM (dUJdY)

297 Well la di dah, miss one percenter.
Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 05:56 PM (RfzVr)

Name brands are best.

Posted by: ALH at December 16, 2018 05:57 PM (cS3Yq)

298 Ben Had

Loud and clear transmission. WILCO.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2018 05:58 PM (hyuyC)

299 Plus she is responsible for the foil-covered cowboy hat given as a door prize at Ben Had's recent TxMoMeet.

Pretty sure I will never forget taking the hat and a roll of foil to work and putting it together. I had a blast doing it. Thankfully it wasn't busy that day.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 05:58 PM (dUJdY)

300 NaCly, you went above and beyond last time. I will take this task.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 05:59 PM (mh1zq)

301 Thanks Calm Mentor.. the traffic does help and Etsy notices. BTW.. I broke 200 sales. Not bad for just little over a year

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:00 PM (dUJdY)

302 Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 05:54 PM

Please stop by again.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 06:00 PM (/rm4P)

303 It's clickbait, but it's fun and disgusting clickbait!

That whole article is basically anti-1963 prejudice.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 16, 2018 06:00 PM (fuK7c)

304 Thanks Calm Mentor.. the traffic does help and Etsy notices. BTW.. I broke 200 sales. Not bad for just little over a year
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:00 PM (dUJdY)

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Most excellent!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 06:01 PM (ffYR/)

305 Oh Weasel.. you sweetheart. I hope she enjoys

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:01 PM (dUJdY)

306 The "previous article" at that link has this final paragraph:

"It seems that migrant criminality makes Middle aged years look like
a child's playground as the current situation in Europe attests."

?

Posted by: m at December 16, 2018 05:39 PM (QfXC4)-----------------------

Maybe they meant "Middle Ages"

Posted by: THAT GUY at December 16, 2018 06:01 PM (FZsOX)

307 200 Ben Had

Says the overachiever. Let me help. It was my pleasure last time.

Or maybe we can get a travel fund for Horde members with limited options. Anna Puma, Insomniac and perchance others come to mind.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2018 06:01 PM (hyuyC)

308 Jewells, I'm having an idea. I will email you and ask if it is possible.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:02 PM (mh1zq)

309 277 Skip

Worked in a nice upscale wine shop long ago. We had an older lady, english fo certain. Twice a week she would buy a vintage port.

We had ports going back to the forties at that time.

I had said to her one day...you truly like vintageport...
She responded...'i just want the jam'. She told me her valet got the juice.

I made a deal with her...we decanted the port for her, she got the jam, we got at least 2/3 of an old bottle...all were good with it 'cept her valet.

Then i asked 'what do you do with the sediment?'

I spread it on my scones!

This lasted for several years...great times...

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 06:02 PM (SOasJ)

310 making pancakes and bacon for dinner... with real maple syrup. My son's suggestion.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 16, 2018 06:02 PM (kufk0)

311 305 Oh Weasel.. you sweetheart. I hope she enjoys
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:01 PM (dUJdY)
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I'm sure she will! Thank you!

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:03 PM (MVjcR)

312 Go for it Ben!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:03 PM (dUJdY)

313 NaCly, I'm on board with that.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:04 PM (mh1zq)

314 Grilled cheese sammich, yep that's the ticket.

Not a one-percenter here, though-- gonna have it with store-brand bottled water and no chips.

Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2018 06:04 PM (zMzA6)

315 And speaking of wines, I dined in Paris at the Jules Vern restaurant a few years ago, 100 meters up in the Eiffel Tower. Not boasting, I didn't pay for it. We got the cheapest bottle of wine on the list at 75 Euros. Saw the same bottle in a supermarket a few days later for 5. Tasted the same.

Posted by: THAT GUY at December 16, 2018 06:05 PM (FZsOX)

316 @302. Skip. According to my stats i never leave. lol.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 06:05 PM (RZWC0)

317 OK Ben Had.

I found its called asiago pressato or asiago fresco.

I'm having a block sent to my office.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 16, 2018 06:06 PM (5aX2M)

318 jewells, do me a favor. email me so I can reply.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:06 PM (mh1zq)

319 I bought 1 bottle of good port in my wine buying days, still have that for when I retire. Had that bottle probably 20 years already.
Still have a few 1997 Californians.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 06:07 PM (/rm4P)

320 279 Reckon I should slap something together for the gun thread.
Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 05:49 PM (MVjcR)

Obscure cartridges still in the production stream and readily available - .270 I don't hear much about but during the ammo lean Obama reign it was always, if sometimes the only item, on the shelves.

And .270 can be used to take most N American fresh meat for the food thread.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 16, 2018 06:07 PM (1g7ch)

321 316 I should shut up some.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 06:08 PM (/rm4P)

322 YD, let me know where you got it from if you would.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:08 PM (mh1zq)

323
Obscure cartridges still in the production stream and readily available - .270 I don't hear much about but during the ammo lean Obama reign it was always, if sometimes the only item, on the shelves.

And .270 can be used to take most N American fresh meat for the food thread.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 16, 2018 06:07 PM (1g7ch)
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That's a good idea for a thread. You don't hear much about the .270. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:09 PM (MVjcR)

324 Ben Had I posted an update on Scout at the end of the pet thread.

Posted by: freaked at December 16, 2018 06:09 PM (UdKB7)

325 Last one: goat cheese, raspberry chipotle sauce drizzle, pecan piece and arugula sprig.

Posted by: LASue at December 16, 2018 06:09 PM (XROPS)

326 jewells, do me a favor. email me so I can reply

Oh crap.. do I have your addy?

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:10 PM (dUJdY)

327 Calm Mentor, just want to let you know your prayer request from last week is on my daily list.

*All I want for Christmas is a brand new job*

Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 06:10 PM (RfzVr)

328 Any bottle of wine say 10 years or more I would decant, especially for guests. The dregs will kill that last glass.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 06:11 PM (/rm4P)

329 Egg Nog with bacon. I'm gonna do it.

No carrots.

Posted by: Burger Chef at December 16, 2018 06:11 PM (RuIsu)

330 We've been watching Christmas movies the last couple of weeks.
The real star of Home Alone is the house.
I have a question about the scene in the movie where Kevin is sitting in the church listening to the choir - What songs were they singing? It was celestial.

Posted by: ALH at December 16, 2018 06:11 PM (cS3Yq)

331 Another fan of Jewell's Etsy site. She made it easy to find some of Mrs. JTB's Christmas gifts. My knowledge of jewelry stops with my wedding ring and watches but fortunately Mrs. JTB knows what she likes.

Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 06:12 PM (bmdz3)

332 322

Shipping is swinging though. 16.00 on an 18.00 purchase

IGourmet.com
https://tinyurl.com/y9v5awzo

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 16, 2018 06:13 PM (5aX2M)

333 freaked. I was really looking for it. I saw that Scout hasn't gotten any relief yet. I did forget to mention that it was brown rice.

I also used olive oil on Brody's raw spots as a conditioner.

One more comment and someone's going to think I'm about ready to eat the dog.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:13 PM (mh1zq)

334 331 Another fan of Jewell's Etsy site. She made it easy to find some of Mrs. JTB's Christmas gifts. My knowledge of jewelry stops with my wedding ring and watches but fortunately Mrs. JTB knows what she likes.
Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 06:12 PM (bmdz3)
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She makes really nice pieces, doesn't she?

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:13 PM (MVjcR)

335 Calm Mentor, just want to let you know your prayer request from last week is on my daily list.

*All I want for Christmas is a brand new job*
Posted by: cfo mom at December 16, 2018 06:10 PM (RfzVr)

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Thank you! I appreciate it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 06:13 PM (ffYR/)

336 Ben I can't seem to find you in my yahoo account. I know we corresponded. Shit.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:14 PM (dUJdY)

337 Jewells, murphywong at peoplepc.com

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:14 PM (mh1zq)

338 Oh you guys are gonna make me blush and that hasn't happened since... well a long damn time.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:15 PM (dUJdY)

339 email sent Ben.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:17 PM (dUJdY)

340 The mark-up for wine in any restaurant is always through the roof. I usually buy it by the glass if I get it at all.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2018 06:17 PM (mpXpK)

341 Does anyone still decant wine before serving?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2018 05:33 PM (Z+IKu)

an ex-girlfriend's sister and brother in law (both of whom I have knows for 30 years) are wine drinkers, so I bought them a glass hospital urinal. It had volume markings up one side for 1000 ml, and it would sit on the table flat and I told them it wouldn't tip and spill, and it had a broader area to allow the wine to breathe.

No idea if they ever used it, but the sister sure was holding back laughs when she accepted it.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2018 06:18 PM (mUa7G)

342 307 Salty Canine

A most cromulent idea. Count me in.

Posted by: ibguy at December 16, 2018 06:20 PM (vUcdz)

343 Occasionally I have sat at dinner tables with adults who have had glasses of milk with their meals. I have always been taken aback by this sight. And I don't know why exactly.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 16, 2018 06:20 PM (rE1pK)

344 >>Comment was that someone hadn't seen a Huddle House in years.

Hmm. Never heard of it. Looks yummy.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 16, 2018 06:21 PM (wSGZR)

345 ibguy, missed you on the pet thread, but wanted to know how your little girl is doing.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:22 PM (mh1zq)

346 Kindltot...i have one given to me many years ago...i use it when occasion dictates.

Funny...

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 06:22 PM (SOasJ)

347 The mark-up for wine in any restaurant is always through the roof. I usually buy it by the glass if I get it at all.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2018 06:17 PM

In general, the cost of a glass of wine in a restaurant equals their cost for the bottle. IOW, they've covered their cost with the first glass, and the next three = profit.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 06:22 PM (DMUuz)

348 Occasionally I have sat at dinner tables with adults who have had glasses of milk with their meals. I have always been taken aback by this sight. And I don't know why exactly.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 16, 2018 06:20 PM (rE1pK)

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For me it is from a habit formed while growing up. We had milk at every meal, and add juice then later coffee at breakfast.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 06:23 PM (ffYR/)

349 ibguy

We have a while to save up. We may need a thread for those wanting to get to Tx but otherwise would not make it. I don't think we need to go all 501 (c) 3 on it. It'd be an interesting contest to see whom the Horde would most want to visit. AtC and her Victory assets comes to mind.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2018 06:23 PM (hyuyC)

350 Can't believe you mentioned a pork shoulder. Just finished one in a Big Easy Oil-less fryer. 8.5 lbs. 3.5 hours. Melt in mouth juicy. Best purchase i ever made. Amazing.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 16, 2018 06:24 PM (KTFtO)

351 That's a good idea for a thread. You don't hear much about the .270. Thanks!
Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:09 PM

The .280 Remington is even better, particularly in the .280 Remington AI (Ackley Improved) version.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 06:25 PM (DMUuz)

352 345 BH

Doofus...er...Maddie?

She's great, thank you!

She still jumps 3-4' in the air, as if the 4 stupid knee surgeries never happened.

And she is SO sweet.

Posted by: ibguy at December 16, 2018 06:25 PM (vUcdz)

353 You did specify brown rice BH. I don't know why.

Posted by: freaked at December 16, 2018 06:25 PM (UdKB7)

354 Is John Wick only now coming out on blu-ray? I am seeing a metric fuck ton of ads for it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 16, 2018 06:25 PM (ycWCI)

355 334 ... "She (Jewells45) makes really nice pieces, doesn't she?"

Hi Weasel. That's a fact. I wish I coud surprise Mrs. JTB with such things as jewelry but it would be like trying to pick out clothes or shoes for her. That is not a smart move for a mortal man. Besides, there is no rhyme or reason to women's clothing sizes that can be understood by the male of the species. I recognize my limitations.

Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 06:25 PM (bmdz3)

356 349 Salty Dog

Roger that, but: LadyL is OURS.

Posted by: ibguy at December 16, 2018 06:26 PM (vUcdz)

357
The .280 Remington is even better, particularly in the .280 Remington AI (Ackley Improved) version.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 06:25 PM (DMUuz)
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My mid-range match gun is a .260 Remington.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:26 PM (MVjcR)

358 Nah Skip. I get up at 4 am CST almost every day to be to work at 7. After a one hour drive so i can see what happened ONT. It's good to hit every light green!(although they are flashing yellow when i go thru). If i dint hab 2 alternate fro y keyboard to the onsreen keyboard i would oent ore. (can you tell what keys I am missing)?

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 06:26 PM (RZWC0)

359 Obscure cartridges still in the production stream and readily available - .270 I don't hear much about but during the ammo lean Obama reign it was always, if sometimes the only item, on the shelves.

And .270 can be used to take most N American fresh meat for the food thread.

Posted by: Burnt Toast
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I can't say that the .270 as obscure. It is very likely the most versatile cartridge in existence.

I'll point out that Jack O'Connor regarded the .270 as suitable for all North American big game. Wags come and go, but if O'Connor said it, you can take it to the bank.

He wrote several books, and 'The Rifle Book' merits space on any shooter/hunter's bookshelf.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2018 06:26 PM (xSo9G)

360 For me it is from a habit formed while growing up. We had milk at every meal, and add juice then later coffee at breakfast.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 06:23 PM (ffYR/)

+++

I suppose I just don't like milk. I even resented having to drink it (those little half-pint cartons) all through grade school.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 16, 2018 06:27 PM (rE1pK)

361 Can't believe you mentioned a pork shoulder. Just finished one in a Big Easy Oil-less fryer. 8.5 lbs. 3.5 hours. Melt in mouth juicy. Best purchase i ever made. Amazing.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 16, 2018 06:24 PM (KTFtO)

I saw them things while out and about among the great unwashed this weekend.

Is it easy to clean and it said little or no oil......you like it?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2018 06:27 PM (Z+IKu)

362 Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 06:25 PM (bmdz3)
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Just use the WeaselMethod. Hand it to her and say "Here, Wear this".

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:28 PM (MVjcR)

363 no rhyme or reason to women's clothing sizes that can be understood by the male of the species.

As a woman I can relate. I've seen tops, blouses whatever that say large and it would be tight on a skinny 12 year old. I never shop online for clothes for that reason.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:29 PM (dUJdY)

364 Dems are investigating every aspect of Trump's life going back decades and they haven't even taken office yet. The GOP had how many years in power and couldn't bother looking into Obama or the Clintons. Useless pieces of shit.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 16, 2018 06:29 PM (2edBm)

365 I can't say that the .270 as obscure. It is very likely the most versatile cartridge in existence.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2018 06:26 PM (xSo9G)

Very popular with smaller-statured women and introducing kids (approximate age 10-14) to deer hunting.

Posted by: Bert G at December 16, 2018 06:29 PM (OMsf+)

366 Washrivergal, I drink a glass of milk every morning. It's a habit I've had since I was a kid.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:30 PM (dUJdY)

367 My mid-range match gun is a .260 Remington.
Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:26 PM

A good friend of mine who shoots 600 - 1k yd. matches uses .260 Rem, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 06:31 PM (DMUuz)

368 358 Thats as bad as text messages I get from a boss who talks the text message.
Most people I read some time ago gloss right over errors when reading, happens often here.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 06:31 PM (/rm4P)

369 I saw them things while out and about among the great unwashed this weekend.

Is it easy to clean and it said little or no oil......you like it?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2018 06:27 PM (Z+IKu)

Love it. I cooked a 'test turkey' before Thanksgiving and another for the holiday. i have two turkeys in eh freezer, after holiday sales. Made a pork loin for guests (best they ever had), and ribs you can hand from hooks (about 20 minutes). It really seals in the juices and you get that crispy 'fried' skin. So easy to use. basket inside. throw that in the dishwasher. Coupla different accessories if you wish for veggies, and kaboobs.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 16, 2018 06:32 PM (KTFtO)

370 366 Washrivergal, I drink a glass of milk every morning. It's a habit I've had since I was a kid.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:30 PM (dUJdY)

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It would be interesting to find out if it was a great benefit for you as far as strong teeth and bones. Has a doctor ever said?

Posted by: washrivergal at December 16, 2018 06:33 PM (rE1pK)

371 As an aside, 'The Best Way to Cook Every Cut of Venison'

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yabltvp2

YMMV

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2018 06:33 PM (xSo9G)

372 A good friend of mine who shoots 600 - 1k yd. matches uses .260 Rem, as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 06:31 PM (DMUuz)
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Beyond 600 I shoot a 6.5-.284.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:33 PM (MVjcR)

373 Jewells - the subject was brought up milk at supper time. Sometimes I have a glass before bed too but no way at major meal.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 06:34 PM (/rm4P)

374 Can't believe you mentioned a pork shoulder. Just finished one in a Big Easy Oil-less fryer. 8.5 lbs. 3.5 hours. Melt in mouth juicy. Best purchase i ever made. Amazing.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 16, 2018 06:24 PM (KTFtO)

Cool......Thanks CB!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2018 06:34 PM (Z+IKu)

375 364
Dems are investigating every aspect of Trump's life going back decades
and they haven't even taken office yet. The GOP had how many years in
power and couldn't bother looking into Obama or the Clintons. Useless
pieces of shit.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 16, 2018 06:29 PM (2edBm)

Cowards. They might not LIKE us! Yeah, they don't...they want us dead.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 16, 2018 06:34 PM (KTFtO)

376 Skip, do you have a specific brand for your shiraz?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:35 PM (mh1zq)

377 375 364
Dems are investigating every aspect of Trump's life going back decades
and they haven't even taken office yet. The GOP had how many years in
power and couldn't bother looking into Obama or the Clintons. Useless
pieces of shit.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 16, 2018 06:29 PM (2edBm)

Cowards. They might not LIKE us! Yeah, they don't...they want us dead.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 16, 2018 06:34 PM (KTFtO)

If I was Trump, at this point I'd make an executive order, word for word the same as Obama did that hid all of his personal papers.

Posted by: Don Q. at December 16, 2018 06:36 PM (NgKpN)

378 It would be interesting to find out if it was a great benefit for you as far as strong teeth and bones. Has a doctor ever said?
Posted by: washrivergal
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I believe that there is a movement afoot to discourage drinking of milk. The usual plaint is that it is 'not natural' to human beings.

The impetus is, of course is 'global warming', because cows.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2018 06:37 PM (xSo9G)

379 Just polished off some fish, rice and peas.
Gonna top it off with a special Gin Gimlet.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 16, 2018 06:37 PM (qxq6t)

380 Then the white zin boom happened.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 04:17 PM (SOasJ)

Sutter Home?

Posted by: Grannymimi at December 16, 2018 06:38 PM (u5LFV)

381 Milkman bad.

Posted by: PETA at December 16, 2018 06:38 PM (xSo9G)

382 If you investigate any 70 year old billionaire who has run a business dor 40 years you are bound to find something. Which is why eventually they will get Trump for something.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 16, 2018 06:38 PM (2edBm)

383 I believe that there is a movement afoot to discourage drinking of milk. The usual plaint is that it is 'not natural' to human beings.

The impetus is, of course is 'global warming', because cows.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2018 06:37 PM (xSo9G)

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You sure wouldn't know this by the looks of the milk cooler whenever snow is predicted.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 16, 2018 06:39 PM (ffYR/)

384 It would be interesting to find out if it was a great benefit for you as far as strong teeth and bones. Has a doctor ever said?

It's one of the reasons I did it. Just had my checkup and she wants me on something to strengthen my bones. I have what they call Osteopenia..not osteoperosis.. yet. Not sure how I feel about it. She tried last year and I balked. Hated the side affects. But I don't want to end up like my mom.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:39 PM (dUJdY)

385
I believe that there is a movement afoot to discourage drinking of milk. The usual plaint is that it is 'not natural' to human beings.

Unlike smartphones

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2018 06:39 PM (aKsyK)

386 Beyond 600 I shoot a 6.5-.284.
Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:33 PM

Long action? Norma brass?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 06:39 PM (DMUuz)

387
I believe that there is a movement afoot to discourage drinking of milk. The usual plaint is that it is 'not natural' to human beings.

The impetus is, of course is 'global warming', because cows.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2018 06:37 PM (xSo9G)

+++

Very leery of modern "studies". Always a tell-tale motive involved.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 16, 2018 06:41 PM (rE1pK)

388 Grannymimi...i believe they cashed in also.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 06:41 PM (SOasJ)

389 If I was Trump, at this point I'd make an executive
order, word for word the same as Obama did that hid all of his personal
papers.

Posted by: Don Q. at December 16, 2018 06:36 PM (NgKpN)

yes. he should look at every executive order Obama had and use the same verbiage to get his work done. Also, take the money for the wall just like Obama did money for Iran, and Obamacare. AND tell everyone he's doing things the way Obama did so they would be happy with his administration. Put it to them hard...very hard.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 16, 2018 06:42 PM (KTFtO)

390 I seldom order wine at a restaurant but sometimes it works out. We were at an excellent Greek place and decided to try a greek wine. It was a white retsina style but the pine flavoring was very light. Turns out it was perfect with the meal: avgalo lemono soup ans spanakopita. It also goes well with any white fish dish.

Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 06:42 PM (bmdz3)

391 @382
They are not going to get him for anything real, which is why they are left with the only option of synthesizing crimes.

It strains credulity that hush money payoffs to whores before one even declares their candidacy for office constitutes a campaign finance violation.

I hate Jeff Sessions more and more every day.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 16, 2018 06:42 PM (qxq6t)

392 Yeah. I spilled a beer on my keyboard couple years back and the c,v,and m key don't work anymore. To tight to buy a new one. In the meantime the onscreen keyboard works fine. AT least til the corgi hoard latches on to a bone and takes off running. heheh. Then there is no way to keep up!!!!!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 06:43 PM (RZWC0)

393

Hmm. Never heard of it. Looks yummy

Hi Mama AJ! Long time, no see!

HHs in Minden, Ruston, Natchititoches and even Farmerville!. None in Bossier or SHV though...

Posted by: Spun & Murky at December 16, 2018 06:43 PM (4DCSq)

394 It's one of the reasons I did it. Just had my checkup and she wants me on something to strengthen my bones. I have what they call Osteopenia..not osteoperosis.. yet. Not sure how I feel about it. She tried last year and I balked. Hated the side affects. But I don't want to end up like my mom.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:39 PM (dUJdY)

+++

I don't blame you. Anything to avoid relying on prescribed medications and their awful side-effects.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 16, 2018 06:44 PM (rE1pK)

395 It was a white retsina style but the pine flavoring was very light. Turns out it was perfect with the meal: avgalo lemono soup ans spanakopita. It also goes well with any white fish dish.
Posted by: JTB
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But, how was the decor?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2018 06:44 PM (CDGwz)

396 392
Yeah. I spilled a beer on my keyboard couple years back and the c,v,and m
key don't work anymore. To tight to buy a new one. In the meantime the
onscreen keyboard works fine. AT least til the corgi hoard latches on to
a bone and takes off running. heheh. Then there is no way to keep
up!!!!!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 06:43 PM (RZWC0)

Margarita here.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 16, 2018 06:44 PM (KTFtO)

397 Hardy's chicken biscuits.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:45 PM (mh1zq)

398 Fish and chip and mushies...

Am glad i taught them well. I'm not cooking tonight.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at December 16, 2018 06:47 PM (SOasJ)

399 A great wine for the money is Red Diamond Merlot. Usually the cheapest one on the wine list. A great value. Good flavor, slightly less dry and wonderful follow-up finish.
Avoid the cab.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2018 06:47 PM (0tfLf)

400 I was in the er two weeks ago. They were all shocked I wasn't on any medications at all.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 06:47 PM (PF4TZ)

401 @396 OOhh sticky. ikk! Just like Cpt. Kruises Cruises.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 06:48 PM (RZWC0)

402 The Italian winemaker Grifone makes a primitivo that, in my neighborhood, sells for $3 a bottle and is decent every-night table wine.

Posted by: grayishpanther at December 16, 2018 06:48 PM (wXKRR)

403 Yeah. I spilled a beer on my keyboard couple years back and the c,v,and m
key don't work anymore. To tight to buy a new one. In the meantime the
onscreen keyboard works fine. AT least til the corgi hoard latches on to
a bone and takes off running. heheh. Then there is no way to keep
up!!!!!

Posted by: t-dubya-d

If you need a cheap one, monoprice.com has some cheap plug-in ones.

If you want a wireless, I bought a cheap wireless one last year from Amazon:
Logitech K270 for about $27.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2018 06:48 PM (ZejZP)

404 Hi Diogenes

I really like the Indian Wells blend from Chateau St Michelle. It is inexpensive and usually found as Costco.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 16, 2018 06:49 PM (PkVlr)

405 I have always in my drinking liked to try what I never had before. If I happen to get something I like next time might get another but thats about it.
But syrahs are best from the north west Oregon and Washington.
Drink a lot from South America.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 06:49 PM (/rm4P)

406 I don't blame you. Anything to avoid relying on prescribed medications and their awful side-effects.

Agreed and the key is staying active but very hard when you have arthritis. I took a wrong step today and now my foot is throbbing. PLAN A.. rub some CBD ointment on it and sit the hell down for an hour! lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 06:50 PM (dUJdY)

407 >>Hi Mama AJ! Long time, no see!

Howdy neighbor!

Yeah, I've driven by the Minden one, I guess. Bit of a drive unless we were already headed that way...

Breakfast out is usually IHOP or Sue's Country Kitchen. Not that we go often, but those are the favorites.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 16, 2018 06:51 PM (wSGZR)

408 400 I was in the er two weeks ago. They were all shocked I wasn't on any medications at all.
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 06:47 PM (PF4TZ)

You are really blessed, Infidel. Me, too.

Posted by: m at December 16, 2018 06:51 PM (QfXC4)

409 Whoops. Meant Capt. Krystols Cruises.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 06:52 PM (RZWC0)

410 405 I do that for craft beer as well, at Blueprint brewery I like to at least sample those I never had before.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 06:52 PM (/rm4P)

411 For an everyday Syrah/Shiraz, Charles Shaw (aka Three-Buck Chuck) at Trader Joe's isn't bad.

For special occasions, Deerfield Winery's Syrahs are a personal favorite.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 06:52 PM (DMUuz)

412 You are blessed as well, m.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 06:53 PM (PF4TZ)

413 Duncanthrax, do they have a peppery flavor?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:54 PM (mh1zq)

414 Posted by: JTB at December 16, 2018 06:42 PM

Retsina isn't horrible, provided the flavor is very light.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2018 06:55 PM (Uw2PZ)

415 So, I have no idea what the office does for Christmas since I started on the 27th last year. Guess I need to ask the am recept. how has been there almost thirty yrs.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 06:56 PM (PF4TZ)

416 who, sheesh.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 06:57 PM (PF4TZ)

417 Few appreciate the subtle qualities of the maple syrup grape.

Posted by: Some Food Critic at December 16, 2018 06:57 PM (Tyii7)

418 Thanks but no thanks weft-cut. Money not a problem. G-pa taught me if it aint totally broke by g#d don't throw it away!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 06:57 PM (RZWC0)

419 My bride turned 29 today. I made her strawberry crepes. Turned out really well despite having never made crepes before in my life. The only thing is the recipe serves four and we were but two today.

we powered through, somehow, but neither of us is thinking about dinner.

so I'm in her good graces for a good long time, I'm thinking. I know, don't get cocky.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 16, 2018 06:58 PM (fmOMA)

420
Long action? Norma brass?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 06:39 PM (DMUuz)
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Standard action. Lapua.

Posted by: Weasel - Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 16, 2018 06:58 PM (MVjcR)

421 So, I have no idea what the office does for Christmas since

We don't do anything. Back when there were more employees we did gift exchange. Now it's just 4 people. We don't even put a tree up. Boss is a stingy jerk. Oh... BUT!!!! he said he may make changes to the Christmas bonus this year! So I either get more or get enrolled in the jelly of the month club.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

422 Jewells, at least you can use the jelly. Better than the blossom of the month.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 07:02 PM (mh1zq)

423 Ben - Many do, not all, to me they go well with a rubbed rib roast.
Another, and often cheaper yet good quality are Petit Syrah, they are not in the same family of grape but to me taste similar. I think cheaper because they are off the beaten path.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2018 07:02 PM (/rm4P)

424 SEE! I could never have a nic like "m". Homey's keyboard don't work that way. ha.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 07:03 PM (RZWC0)

425 Ex Senator Dicknose (Loser-AZ) will be a guest on Colbert.
Perfect.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 16, 2018 07:04 PM (LL1Be)

426 Skip, Thanks.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 07:04 PM (mh1zq)

427 Right now I'm drinking my customary tipple: six-dollar vinho verde from Portugal. Any cheaper and they'd have to cut me a check.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 16, 2018 07:07 PM (+gvbf)

428 George Washington's eggnog recipe:, sherry, eggs, cream and something else I can't remember. My neighbor made it one year. Delicious.

Posted by: Grannymimi at December 16, 2018 07:07 PM (u5LFV)

429 Gub Nood. 2nd nood today.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 07:09 PM (RZWC0)

430 Duncanthrax, do they have a peppery flavor?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2018 06:54 PM

Some of the Deerfield Ranch bottlings have a bit. The Three-buck Chuck, not much. The Rhône style Syrahs generally have more than Austrailians, another good source for Syrah.

If the taste is of green bell pepper, or green peppercorn, it's often from a class of molecules called pyrazines, generally methoxypyrazine, and this is not generally considered a Good Thing. If this is what you're referring to, neither TBC or the Deerfield's have it.

Deerfield Ranch makes an effort to histamines at very low levels, FWIW.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2018 07:10 PM (DMUuz)

431 Oh... BUT!!!! he said he may make changes to the Christmas bonus this year! So I either get more or get enrolled in the jelly of the month club.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 16, 2018 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

Heh. It's only ten of us and one is of counsel. Three are part time. I don't have a clue. Christmas decorations were put up.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2018 07:15 PM (PF4TZ)

432 Any morons into wine should watch Sour Grapes on Netflix about an asian guy who sold fake bottles of the world's most expensive wines. Genuinely captivating viewing.

Posted by: Clintonstain at December 16, 2018 07:40 PM (6ngkD)

433 [Pot-roasted Shoulder of Pork with Chilli and Beer]

It's "chile". Stop being so kosher.

Posted by: JBSPRY at December 16, 2018 08:49 PM (d/n9j)

434 Stop being so kosher.

Posted by: JBSPRY at December 16, 2018 08:49 PM (d/n9j)

That's how the website wrote it.

And I am unsure of the tone of your comment. Care to elaborate?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2018 09:05 PM (wYseH)

435 I'm no hunter, but it always seemed to me that if you sighted your riffle in camp that you would scare off the game you were hunting. I know distance helps, but what more is there than that?

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 09:12 PM (RZWC0)

436 Oh Boy. My comment showed up at the wrong time.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 09:15 PM (RZWC0)

437 and on the wrong thread!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 16, 2018 09:16 PM (RZWC0)

438 The Lardy Cake looks a depression era recipe that was put out by the Dept. of Agriculture and was touted as "Butterless, Eggless, Milkless Cake.

Posted by: javapoppa at December 16, 2018 09:33 PM (AVeF2)

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