It's Official: Federal Judges Have Decided That There Are Special Rules In the Constitution That Say Trump Doesn't Have the Basic Powers All Other Presidents Have

A judge -- appointed by Trump, actually -- decides the president can not deny a press pass to a non-reporter who physically pushes away an intern and declares that Jim Acosta now has his press pass back.

The judge said the government could not say who initially decided to revoke Acosta’s hard pass. The White House had spelled out its reasons for revoking his credentials in a tweet from White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders and in a statement after CNN filed its lawsuit. But the judge said those "belated efforts were hardly sufficient to satisfy due process."
The judge also found that Acosta suffered "irreparable harm," dismissing the government's argument that CNN could simply send other reporters to cover the White House in Acosta’s place.
The suit by CNN alleges that Acosta's First and Fifth Amendment rights were violated by suspending his hard pass. While the judge didn't rule on the underlying case, he signaled they were likely to prevail in their claims.

This is an emergency injunction, not a decision following a full trial, but the judge found a substantial likelihood that CNN would prevail on the merits (which is necessary finding for granting an injunction).

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:36 PM

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1 The aim is to emasculate Trump; to make him look powerless and cucked.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 16, 2018 12:37 PM (ykYG2)

2 this is horse shit.

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at November 16, 2018 12:37 PM (4YHTV)

3 Yep. Time to end pressers.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 12:38 PM (RD7QR)

4 First and outraged

Posted by: Regular joe at November 16, 2018 12:38 PM (7PllL)

5 Get some rope. I'll find a suitable tree.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at November 16, 2018 12:38 PM (2sCft)

6 Number three
I agree. Time to require a submission of all questions in writing.

Posted by: Pep at November 16, 2018 12:38 PM (qrklq)

7 just give him a seat in the back and ignore him

Posted by: brak at November 16, 2018 12:39 PM (VckGX)

8 Time to restore the White House Swimming Pool.

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 12:39 PM (xFmWK)

9 Move the press conference room out of the white house now! New rules, bitchez.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at November 16, 2018 12:39 PM (2sCft)

10 So make all pressers by individual invitation going forward.

Posted by: Frag at November 16, 2018 12:39 PM (7/jhW)

11 So let's see what happens when the WH ignores the ruling.

Really. I want to see.

This is a judiciary that has bent over backwards to avoid getting involved in Legislature rules....well, same thing.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (PFy0L)

12 By this logic, Trump can never again hold a one-on-one interview with a reporter, because that would somehow deprive all of the other reporters of their First Amendment rights.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (wW03z)

13 Chrystal Lite is gonna LOVE this!

Posted by: Max Power at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (q177U)

14 Completely obscene.

*Buying more ammo*

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (Ftuf+)

15 Note that the AP story continues to spread the "doctored video" lie: "Sanders distributed a doctored video that made it appear Acosta was more aggressive than he actually was."

Posted by: Brewdog at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (oNFAg)

16 It's a result of a build up from prior decisions, tweaks, momentum. Soon, the end result is flipped from if we had asked the question fresh with no history.

But, is this a Cheaterfields fence issue?

Posted by: TonicDog at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (j0fQS)

17 6 Number three
I agree. Time to require a submission of all questions in writing.
Posted by: Pep at November 16, 2018 12:38 PM (qrklq)

Somebody in a previous thread said use email; I endorse this, or else something like a live comment feed. We have the technology, let's use it to end these media circuses.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (RD7QR)

18 What is the judge's name? Where is his address? How big of a crowd can we get to stand on his porch and push his door in?

I think America is over.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (o/vR0)

19 I don't know the best response. I'll trust Trump to find it.

Posted by: m at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (+ZMGe)

20 Life liberty or property? What was deprived such that due process is required?
The judge's reasoning seems to be that credentialing the press pool creates a first amendment right, but that's asinine. Credentialing is merely crowd control. You have limited space and so some system must be used, no matter how arbitrary.

Posted by: wooga at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (clOFZ)

21 Make the f*cker sit in the back of the room and dont call on him...

Posted by: DXO at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (nzKWW)

22 7 just give him a seat in the back and ignore him
Posted by: brak

What if he starts acting up? Time-out? Throw an eraser at him?

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (wW03z)

23 We are no longer a nation of laws. Try talking to a lib about basic election laws. They don't care. They cannot comprehend how a civil society is supposed to behave.

It's over. The commie takeover of our schools and plan to make our young people brain-dead has been a complete success.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (a+WIL)

24 Nobody said nood.

Posted by: Little Lupe at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (vtcmf)

25 It sill doesn't make it right but I read that the return is just until the CNN court case has been decided and isn't a permanent 'injunction' (or whatever).

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2018 12:41 PM (Evws/)

26 I'm still not clear on why they have passes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and prayers, RBG at November 16, 2018 12:41 PM (iPqiQ)

27 7 just give him a seat in the back and ignore him
Posted by: brak at November 16, 2018 12:39 PM (

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That is part of the problem.

The WHCA controls seating at these press conferences, not the White House.

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 12:41 PM (xFmWK)

28 Sure, sit him in the back, but doesn't he have a constitutional right to sit up front and beat the WH staffer girls?

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 16, 2018 12:41 PM (a+WIL)

29 When the reporter becomes the story itself, you've lost the argument.

Posted by: zombie at November 16, 2018 12:42 PM (c+2jX)

30 So we now have a constitutional right to whining? Fuck 'em.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at November 16, 2018 12:42 PM (2sCft)

31 Press pass revocations require approval of the House of Representatives. It's a tax!

Posted by: Justice Roberts at November 16, 2018 12:42 PM (clOFZ)

32 just carrot and stick the guy. it's not that hard of a problem to deal with.

Posted by: Chappaquiddick Sleigh Ride at November 16, 2018 12:42 PM (uvoQ3)

33 He just gets a hard pass to the White House. They can add another level of passes for the pressers and not give CNN any.

Posted by: Roy at November 16, 2018 12:42 PM (ABjxW)

34 25 It sill doesn't make it right but I read that the return is just until the CNN court case has been decided and isn't a permanent 'injunction' (or whatever).
Posted by: andycanuck

The judge issued the injunction because he thinks CNN is likely to win the case.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2018 12:42 PM (wW03z)

35 although, from now on, they shouldn't let acosta get under their skin. Let him get up there and make a fool out of himself. Just blink and pander to him, "oh, you have a question, sure!" He doesn't want answers to questions anyways, so let him blab and sweetly say, "bless you heart. Did you get a doughnut? There are doughnuts over there. You seem a tad agitated".

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at November 16, 2018 12:42 PM (4YHTV)

36 No questions to the toad. Simple...isolate him like he has the worst lice infestation.

Posted by: JustN at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (1uVOe)

37 I am curious to see what the WH is going to do.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (a0IVu)

38 24 Nobody said nood.
Posted by: Little Lupe

Your music sucks!

Posted by: wooga at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (clOFZ)

39 Trump should have the Secret Service bounce him from the room first time he opens his mouth.

Posted by: JAS at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (3HNOQ)

40 Buy ammo.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (a+WIL)

41 Ignore the court order. Separations of powers says "Fuck You!" Problems? Refer the court to the Constitution.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (hSQF+)

42 Give 1 hour notice of presser, held in exec office bldg. questions submitted in advance , answer a few and call it a day. Let press secretary appear on monitor from old WH press room. Never hold a live presser again nor call on CNN.

Fire Kelly Ann Conway because she is married to a fat bitch.

Posted by: john doe at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (WX+x0)

43 Trump should issue a million press passes to random Americans, and then announce that there will be a daily lottery to determine who gets to sit in the WH press room.

Posted by: The ARC of History at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (I2/tG)

44 Revoke all permanent passes. Make entrance into the press conferences subject to a press lottery. Every. Fucking. Day.

Posted by: Timon at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (G5IFy)

45 That was excellently quick.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (wW03z)

46 I could live without a White House Press Conference. In fact, I already do. It is the reporters who can't live without one because their paycheck depends on it.

It isn't news any more; it is just gossip from highly placed insiders who have to remain anonymous because their speaking to the press is outside of their official job description.

"I really should be telling you this, but I heard that John Bolton and General Kelly got into a shouting match about something a week ago."

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (hrcfq)

47 Press Passes For ALL

Let's do this.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (MkS65)

48 who really cares?

the Press loves stories about itself. they love to be the center of attention.

who cares? I certainly don't.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (d7Ww2)

49
Oh for fucks sake.

Damn. Ive been saying that ALOT lately.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (8XRCm)

50 It's over. The commie takeover of our schools and plan to make our young people brain-dead has been a complete success.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (a+WIL)

Not complete, and therefore not a success.

Really, given the amount of money pitted against us I'm surprised there was no wave. Hence why the Dems moved to overt fraud.

They wouldn't need that against a population that actually supported them.

Posted by: trev006 at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (3/Acz)

51 Where's my press pass?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (SkuXa)

52 Bah, who cares? 10 to 1 Acosta never gets to ask another question.

Posted by: Orson at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (MDqfa)

53
How many divisions does this judge have again?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (veoSD)

54 Oh, if only Acosta had suffered irreparable harm.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (AzW6q)

55 22 7 just give him a seat in the back and ignore him
Posted by: brak

What if he starts acting up? Time-out? Throw an eraser at him?
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (wW03z)

A judge will rule that Trump must call on him.

Posted by: josephistan at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (7HtZB)

56 LOL

Posted by: Horseface at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (pQrYJ)

57 Where's my press pass?

Yup, I'm om my way to the WH to demand mine...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (O2RFr)

58 I'm sure there was a lack of due process. They didn't follow proper protocol like those Title IX sex assault tribunals do. A pox on the White House. /sarc

Posted by: Roy at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (ABjxW)

59
Give me a press pass. I'll gain ground with it. I'll shove Acosta through a wall and make it look like he did it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (/9p9e)

60 -
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Trump should have the Secret Service bounce him from the room first time he opens his mouth.

Posted by: JAS at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM
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Someone should slip a toy gun in his pocket and have the SS beat the shit out of him.

Posted by: irright at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (pMGkg)

61 Someone on Gab asked if a person, who self-identifies as a reporter, can go into a courtroom, interrupt and disrespect, brush off the bailiff and expect no punishment? Because that seems like a due process issue to me.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (xQfPr)

62 It's bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (NWiLs)

63 Meh. I still think Trump wins this. If not here then on appeal.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (8tNRg)

64 So fucking pissed. I can't type what i'm thinking must be done

Posted by: Hobbiehawk at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (Qot/z)

65 52 Bah, who cares? 10 to 1 Acosta never gets to ask another question.
Posted by: Orson at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (MDqfa)

That's not the issue. See Ace's headline for that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (/9p9e)

66 Honest questions, why the fuck is the administration bending the knee to this shit? These judges are unelected, and uncountable. They can make their rulings all damned day, lets see them enforce them!

Posted by: AntiCuck at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (L/iL8)

67 Whooda' thought that little Jim Acosta enjoys a special place in our Constitution?

Posted by: BuckIV at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (PZ2ib)

68 First and Fifth amendment rights are personal right, your honor.

Mr. Acosta is not here as an individual. He is here as a representative of a corporation, which has several other reporters they can send.

As liberals love to point out in First Amendment Free Speech matters, your honor, individual rights do not extend to corporations.

You have extended personal rights to a corporation, CNN, which is clearly erroneous.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (H7LIz)

69 You don't have to obey an unlawful order.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (hSQF+)

70 The previous administrations all agreed to work with the White House Correspondents Association, and agreed to give them certain rights and responsibilities.

Looking back, maybe President Trump should have thrown the problem in their lap.

Dear WHCA,

One of your members is misbehaving. Please coreect the problem. If it is not corrected with alacrity, no press conferences will be held.

/s/ Donny Two Scoops

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (xFmWK)

71 Now the intern can press charges and make a federal case out of it.

Posted by: Roy at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (ABjxW)

72 Nice Robe you got there...

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (MkS65)

73 So make all pressers by individual invitation going forward.

Obama regularly had "off-the-record" tet-a-tets in the White House with a selected group of lackey press people.

Trump should do the same, but just have the White House photographer film them, for later distribution.

Posted by: The ARC of History at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (I2/tG)

74
So..... does this constitutional right apply to ALL people?? Am I, under the first amendment, entitled to a WH Press Pass.

This is ridiculous on its face.

The administration should issue 2500 press passes and drown the Press briefing room in a singularity of stupidity.

Its a Constitutional Right... after all.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (8XRCm)

75 Have the Secret Service declare Acosta a security risk and ban him on those grounds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (EYsyU)

76 Overt fraud? Like a guy dressed as a noncitizen German seeing if he could vote and the Dem poll workers saying 'yes'?
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/
1063462546080972803

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (Evws/)

77 This is ridiculous but if they absolutely must give the pass back, simply never call on him. Don't allow him to ask anything.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (4ErVI)

78 need to take this to next court, eventually supreme court if necessary

Posted by: Sphynx at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (rXie1)

79 Melania should wear her "I don't care, do you?" jacket to the next presser and stand next to GEPDT and look lovely......as always

stop giving the press the attention it wants!

I DON'T FUCKING CARE!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (d7Ww2)

80 More evidence that we have descended into lawlessness.

Posted by: navybrat, has no evidence that my bathroom scale is accurate at November 16, 2018 12:47 PM (w7KSn)

81 Due process? What's the due process for press credential privileges?
So, what do you have to do to get your credentials revoked? Is there any scenario in which such a thing could happen?

Didnt obama toss around the idea of banning all of fox from the pressers?

Posted by: MST3K at November 16, 2018 12:47 PM (k58xs)

82 I can just walk up to Wolf Blitzer on his show and ask him questions, right?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 16, 2018 12:47 PM (cTN62)

83 63 Meh. I still think Trump wins this. If not here then on appeal.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (8tNRg)

No pressers until the matter is decided. Accoster gets a press pass? Fine, he can use it to clean his fingernails because there won't be any pressers to go to.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 12:47 PM (RD7QR)

84 All press conferences will now be on a helicopter full of spooky looking soldiers in sunglasses. Get on the helicopter, Jim.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 16, 2018 12:47 PM (o/vR0)

85 The judge also found that Acosta suffered "irreparable harm,"
...........

aw, did he hurt his widdle pussy?

Posted by: wth at November 16, 2018 12:47 PM (HgMAr)

86
Odds of this judge ever getting a Supreme Court nomination from Trump/Pence? Zero.

The reinstatement is my primary issue.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (e7O7B)

87 8 Time to restore the White House ~~Swimming Pool.~~ Crocodile Pit
Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 12:39 PM (xFmWK)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (BRvh1)

88 Willowed from last thread . . .

If I were Trump, I'd ignore Acosta completely and never call on him.

Or I'd call on him and ask what a baby-man/beta male who yanks a mic out of a young woman's hand could possibly have to say that would be relevant and mature

Posted by: Marybeth at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (CmURZ)

89 Now, when Sarah does not call on him, he will go back and the judge will force her to call on him.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (so+oy)

90 Trump responded saying they will "temporarily" give Accost-u his pass back and write some new "guidelines "

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (O2RFr)

91 Now THIS is the kind of national issue that the SCOTUS must be concerned with.

Posted by: JAS at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (3HNOQ)

92 Maybe Trump should do just the opposite: let Acosta ask ALL the "questions" (do all the speechifying, in reality) then wind up the press conference with no one else getting to say a word.

Then do that every time until the other reporters take matters in hand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (EYsyU)

93 Let Jim preen.

This whole thing is really about the WHCA and their shitty little show every year.

It was based on the 5A, in which if the gov't gives you something - they can't arbitrarily take it away without due process. Again, have Trump let Jim ask the first question, answer it. Say: Thanks Jim and move onto the next person. If he balks in giving back the mic, Trump should say: By a show of hands, who says Jim should ask another question? When he asks another and continues on: Trump says: 2 questions down, 8 more to go. By a show of hands. . . .. Rinse. Repeat. At the next presser you'll have all hands up the very first time.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (q1VoB)

94 Here's a fix: Hold WH press conferences six times a day, make attendance mandatory. Hold in a large auditorium nearby. Expand the number of reporters present three fold. Invite YouTubers and Libertarian/Conservative Bloggers and Occasional-Cortex style socialist press. Drive the elites nuts.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (rXie1)

95 If Jim Acosta has an unalienable right to a WH press pass, then why don't I?

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch, Inhaling an Unhealthy Amount of the Oaken Goodness at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (gh7cp)

96 This doesn't even make sense to me.
Not a lawyer, but I cannot understand why this would prevail.

Posted by: Inogame at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (ySZHT)

97

I think they should allow AJ back in, but he's have to submit to a full bodily search first. You know, the kind where they use those little blue rubber gloves.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (HaL55)

98
60 -
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Trump should have the Secret Service bounce him from the room first time he opens his mouth.

Posted by: JAS at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM
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Someone should slip a toy gun in his pocket and have the SS beat the shit out of him.

Posted by: irright at November 16, 2018 12:45 PM (pMGkg)

Or like something I read once in a cheezy spy novel, cut out an outline of a gun in tin foil, and somehow slip it into an opponent's carry-on baggage before he goes through airport security. It could just be in a folded over newspaper slipped into a carry-on bag side pocket.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (veoSD)

99 Put him in a closet. Rope the closet off.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (LX21o)

100 The fact that it was a Trump appointee doing this kind of signals that the decision was based on the Constitution and precedent, doesn't it? Just because you/me/we don't like the decision doesn't mean that it was a wild and crazy piece of left-wing judicial activism.

Posted by: Welp at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (IM7hs)

101 92
Maybe Trump should do just the opposite: let Acosta ask ALL the
"questions" (do all the speechifying, in reality) then wind up the press
conference with no one else getting to say a word.

Then do that every time until the other reporters take matters in hand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (EYsyU)

Bingo.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (q1VoB)

102 re: "By this logic, Trump can never again hold a one-on-one interview with a
reporter, because that would somehow deprive all of the other reporters
of their First Amendment rights."

I hear ya, but I guess I don't understand why reporters have extra special First Amendment rights at all. If Mr. Accoster has the inalienable right to be there causing a ruckus, then don't I as well?

Posted by: Not a Reporter at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (SOV+T)

103 Trump is a smart man and he doesn't like Acosta- with good reason. He also doesn't like being crossed . He and Sarah Sanders will figure out some way around this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (AllCR)

104 Didn't this irreparable harm come when Acosta chose to act like a brain damaged child?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (nBr1j)

105 BTW, Alex Jones should apply for a WH Press Pass right now; and he should be seated right next to Acoster.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (Evws/)

106 Enough w/ the press conferences. End it.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (a0IVu)

107 If everyone has an elite press pass, then nobody has an elite press pass. - Syndrome

Posted by: Roy at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (ABjxW)

108 103 Trump is a smart man and he doesn't like Acosta- with good reason. He also doesn't like being crossed . He and Sarah Sanders will figure out some way around this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (AllCR)

I sure hope so.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (a0IVu)

109 We're living in a banana republic. If this were some random citizen they would have been arrested and banned from the WH forever. Celebrities and Democrats - BIRM - can do whatever they want - including assault - and nothing ever happens. Ever.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (gA69l)

110 The press now believes that it has a constitutional right to abuse a president who it doesn't like. That's outright bullying.
Trump should simply eliminate the policy of hardpasses. No one gets one anymore, and the new policy of attendance at pressers is by invitation only, or is some federal judge going to micro-manage that too?

Posted by: XOXO at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (MUOwd)

111 Bah, who cares? 10 to 1 Acosta never gets to ask another question.

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That's not the point.

The point is, we had both Houses of Congresses, and they blocked everything on their own Party's agenda except for weak-tea tax reform that was favored by their donors, and they get away with it.

We have a federal judiciary that illegally enjoins the President whenever it wants, and gets away with it.

We have a federal law enforcement apparatus and intelligence agencies that's attempting a coup in broad daylight and getting away with it.

They're doing all of these things to make it clear to us that we have no say in our own governance.

Fuck Jim Acosta... this about me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (AzW6q)

112 Enough w/ the press conferences. End it.

Yup and the Impromptu ones also...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (O2RFr)

113 Trump should ignore this.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (yT080)

114 This is ridiculous but if they absolutely must give the pass back, simply never call on him. Don't allow him to ask anything.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 16, 2018 12:46 PM (4ErVI)

Just simply say he is banned from entering the WH. Fuck the judge

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (P4Pk9)

115 Bingo.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (q1VoB)

You like that idea? I was just tossing it out there while I contemplated it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:50 PM (EYsyU)

116 Jim Acosta standing tall!

Posted by: Tattoo at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (QE8X6)

117 Trump should ignore this.

WH already said they will comply

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (O2RFr)

118 Huge mistake here. The Judiciary just took superior status to the Executive.

Really needed to refuse the judge's order.

Posted by: Stagger Lee at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (QwmrN)

119 Maybe the WH could refuse to allow men with hair product into the press room--some kind of security issue.
If you can't get hair product past security in an airport you shouldn't be able to get into the press room.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (nBr1j)

120 Wasserman calls Florida Senate for Rick Scott

Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (HrSJb)

121 Even the other reporters don't like Acosta because he takes up all their time. That's why I think Deplorable Jay has a good idea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (AllCR)

122 >>>No pressers until the matter is decided. Accoster gets a press pass? Fine, he can use it to clean his fingernails because there won't be any pressers to go to.

THIS

Posted by: Max Power at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (q177U)

123 Call it the Clinton Rule. You must allow manhandling of female interns.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (qzJPr)

124 If reports are correct (meaning i'm too much of a lazy slattern to read in detail for myself), then this injunction is purely procedural. Not THAT Lil' Jimmy got bounced, but HOW Lil' Jimmy got bounced.

Almost like judge is trying to nudge the WH into doing it the right way to make it stick next time, and trying to pre-empt leftist lawfare maneuvers in the future with a flimsy injunction, as opposed to letting it go to a full ruling which can be more robustly and sensibly appealed.

Now if you'll pardon me, i have to get to the bodega. I'm all out of tin foil. Again.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 12:52 PM (BRvh1)

125 RRH elections calls Ga Governor for Kemp

Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 12:52 PM (HrSJb)

126 119 Maybe the WH could refuse to allow men with hair product into the press room--some kind of security issue.
If you can't get hair product past security in an airport you shouldn't be able to get into the press room.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (nBr1j)

Then Trump couldn't get in either!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:52 PM (EYsyU)

127 This judge is afraid of Gaslight Media. Another profile in courage.

Posted by: kallisto at November 16, 2018 12:52 PM (Rf71G)

128 Trump should ignore this.

WH already said they will comply
--
Well that's that.
What next?

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 16, 2018 12:52 PM (hrcfq)

129 I wonder what made-up dirt the MSM had on the Judge?

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch, Inhaling an Unhealthy Amount of the Oaken Goodness at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (gh7cp)

130 Enough w/ the press conferences. End it.
Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 12:49 PM (a0IVu)

---------------

This. A daily email blast to reporters only. There is no law that pressers must be held, and in fact for a long time they weren't.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (ffYR/)

131 This really is not the hill to die on. It was dopey to take away his press pass when the outcome was perfectly predictable. Mollie has the solution: stop televising the press conferences. Then the little man will have no balls.

Posted by: Caliban at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (QE8X6)

132 128 Trump should ignore this.

WH already said they will comply
--
Well that's that.
What next?

Well they did say they will "temporarily" give Accost-u his pass back and write some new "guidelines" regarding behavior so...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (O2RFr)

133 121 Even the other reporters don't like Acosta because he takes up all their time. That's why I think Deplorable Jay has a good idea.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (AllCR)

Thanks! I was just mulling it over as a possibility, trying to think of some way to split Acosta out from the herd. Divide and conquer, and all that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (EYsyU)

134 120 Wasserman calls Florida Senate for Rick Scott
Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (HrSJb)

Wasserman-Schlitz? That must have rustled her mayonnaise.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (RD7QR)

135 It was a mistake to revoke his pass. Acosta wants attention and he got it. Trump should simply never call on him. Let all the other CNN idiots ask their idiot questions but don't give grandstanding Acosta the floor.

Posted by: JuJuBee at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (iYspq)

136 RRH elections calls Ga Governor for Kemp

Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 12:52 PM (HrSJb)

And Tank Abrams' team announced a couple of hours ago they're going to continue to fight, because RACISM.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 16, 2018 12:54 PM (ptqGC)

137 You have to be so tall to get into the press room?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 12:54 PM (nBr1j)

138 >>Then do that every time until the other reporters take matters in hand. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (EYsyU)

They won't, not as long as Acosta is The Story.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 12:54 PM (Bdeb0)

139 RRH elections calls Ga Governor for Kemp

Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 12:52 PM (HrSJb)
I bet Socialist Stacey is on the phone raising hell with the DNC because they managed to get a bunch of other races fixed, but not hers.

Posted by: Bert G at November 16, 2018 12:54 PM (tOP4K)

140 And Tank Abrams' team announced a couple of hours ago they're going to continue to fight, because RACISM.

yes, they want a new election...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (O2RFr)

141 This was a jackass ruling but it was based on a fake fifth amendment right against "takings" rather than the first amendment. This judge should be pilloried AND Trump should immediately announce that all press conferences are suspended pending the final outcome of this suit.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (F/KeJ)

142 Here is where I think the judge pulled this out of his fifth point of contact,

"The lawyers for the White House could not say how the decision to revoke Jim Acosta's pass was made."

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (xFmWK)

143 Judge who? ha ha ha
Come and get me motherf**ker. Matthew? Could you please escort Mr. Acosta to the helicopter pad?

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (HgMAr)

144 Kelly has made his decision, now let him enforce it.

Posted by: Zaklog the Great at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (ZsNt7)

145 >>135 It was a mistake to revoke his pass. Acosta wants attention and he got it. Trump should simply never call on him. Let all the other CNN idiots ask their idiot questions but don't give grandstanding Acosta the floor. Posted by: JuJuBee at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (iYspq)

This is spot-on. Taking his pass was an un-Trumpian error.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (Bdeb0)

146 Still trying to figure out how revoking a press pass that you issued in the first place is denying someone 5th Amendment protections. If a dealership demanded that I give back the keys to the car they loaned me did they deny me of due process?

Posted by: josephistan at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (7HtZB)

147 I bet Socialist Stacey is on the phone raising hell
with the DNC because they managed to get a bunch of other races fixed,
but not hers.

Posted by: Bert G at November 16, 2018 12:54 PM (tOP4K)

There are already progs urging her to run for David Perdue's senate seat.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (ptqGC)

148 I'd tell the judge try and enforce it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 16, 2018 12:56 PM (OLCnA)

149 132 128 Trump should ignore this.

WH already said they will comply
--
Well that's that.
What next?

Well they did say they will "temporarily" give Accost-u his pass back and write some new "guidelines" regarding behavior so...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (O2RFr)

Guideline 1: If you're a preening douchebag dickhead with an excessive sense of self-importance you can't ask questions.

Guideline 2: The president is armed and willing to enforce Guideline 1.

Guideline 3: See Guidelines 1 and 2.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 12:56 PM (RD7QR)

150
Thank you Donna.

What this country needs are more guidelines.
Where would we be without guidelines?
Everybody just stay in their own lane, no lane changes without signalling well in advance.

We need common sense lane control guidelines.

Posted by: Nuland Goodleaf, Herbologist at November 16, 2018 12:56 PM (hrcfq)

151 Number three

I agree. Time to require a submission of all questions in writing.

Posted by: Pep at November 16, 2018 12:38 PM (qrklq)

Hell no... don't take any questions from any of the vultures. Shut down press conferences and make it very clear that CNN is why the press can't have nice things.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 12:56 PM (F/KeJ)

152 117 Trump should ignore this.

WH already said they will comply

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (O2RFr)

They did? Well, so much for that. Roll over.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 12:57 PM (a0IVu)

153 139 RRH elections calls Ga Governor for Kemp

Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 12:52 PM (HrSJb)
I bet Socialist Stacey is on the phone raising hell with the DNC because they managed to get a bunch of other races fixed, but not hers.
Posted by: Bert G at November 16, 2018 12:54 PM (tOP4K)

They didn't rig an election for her? Racism!

Posted by: josephistan at November 16, 2018 12:57 PM (7HtZB)

154 Skip our dinner? Don't like the way we mock and ridicule you!

Ha Ha! Joke's on you, Bad Orange Man!

Judge says WE have the power to decide who shall enjoy First Amendment rights!

Maybe we'll put Creepy Porn Lawyer in the front row next press conference!

Posted by: WHCA at November 16, 2018 12:57 PM (DuAZ5)

155 138 >>Then do that every time until the other reporters take matters in hand. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:48 PM (EYsyU)

They won't, not as long as Acosta is The Story.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 12:54 PM (Bdeb0)

Sure, initially. But after a few repetitions it'll be old hat, and editors will be clamoring for new stories, and wondering why they're paying reporters to sit on their asses and watch this dumpster fire. Meanwhile Acosta will be looking increasingly ridiculous.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:57 PM (Wd55D)

156 This is spot-on. Taking his pass was an un-Trumpian error.
Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (Bdeb0)

I thought the whole thing was orchestrated, as opposed to being a flub.

Maybe it was a mistake to orchestrate it as such, but the way events played out made me think the decision to bounce him was made long ago, and they were just waiting for a good pretext, like not surrendering the mic when asked.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 12:58 PM (BRvh1)

157
All reporters are now required to wear a gimp suit for admission to the press room.

It's a security thing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2018 12:58 PM (veoSD)

158 My previous post was an angry ramble.

Let me simplify: If you think this is about Acosta and his pass, or the optics and tactics of removing it, you're missing the forest for the trees. The courts have absolutely no right to re-instate that press pass, and that's why they did it - to show they can. Same as DACA injunctions and everything else. They are railroading the President and all of his voters.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 12:58 PM (AzW6q)

159 Who first told Jim Acosta that he's smart and important?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 12:58 PM (nBr1j)

160
New Rule: All correspondents must kneel and say "May I address you, my Queen?" before asking a question of SHS

Posted by: Sphynx at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (rXie1)

161 135 It was a mistake to revoke his pass. Acosta
wants attention and he got it. Trump should simply never call on him.
Let all the other CNN idiots ask their idiot questions but don't give
grandstanding Acosta the floor. Posted by: JuJuBee at November 16, 2018
12:53 PM (iYspq)

This is spot-on. Taking his pass was an un-Trumpian error.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (Bdeb0)

It was not a mistake at all. Acosta is a preening douchbag who needs to be reigned in.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (F/KeJ)

162 The Tater has weighed in. "Democracy has been saved from rotting from the inside." Or something.

https://tinyurl.com/y73t4h5q

And by "weighed in" I mean waddled mincingly in.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (ptqGC)

163 Not enough 'due process'?

OK, have President Trump sign an Executive Order banning Acosta from the White House for being rude to the President of the United States.

Give him his pass back, then immediately rescind it again.

Due Process done Judgey Poo...

Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (NgKpN)

164 Didnt obama toss around the idea of banning all of fox from the pressers?
_________________

Obama once threw a reporter out of a press conference of his, and all the other reporters cheered.

Of course, that was King Barry, and he could do no wrong. No "due process" was required for his Royal Acts.

Posted by: Kamaltoe Harris at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (fqUgw)

165 I would really like to read a good analysis of this decision. Was it based on some existing law? Did congress pass legislation at some point where the president has to go through a process to eject a reporter?

Because if that's not true, the judge just made up something whole cloth without a shred of logic or reason, without any legal support from precedent or constitution.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (39g3+)

166 he should have allowed; no think of any cop when a perp would shove down their arm when asking for compliance.

do this to the irs when they show up in your office, do this to typical cop joe.

do This to a Judge!

Posted by: willow at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (aSpXp)

167 I repeat. This is establishing an official (and self-anointed) priesthood with special privileges.

If Acosta has a "right" to WH access, then so does EVERYONE because EVERYONE has a right to freedom of the written/broadcast word.

That is what "freedom of the press" is. It is not a right reserved for professionals. It is not a right of a specific class of people hired by Big Fat Corporations.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (Rxduq)

168 Fuck Acosta and his Hawaiian Judge.

Lose his paperwork, have the SS flag him for an advanced screening. Sorry bruh, press room is at firesafe capacity.

Or lock him in the Obama press closet

Posted by: ~~Nationalist~~ Monarchist Pikachu at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (F5cXa)

169 I bet Socialist Stacey is on the phone raising hell
with the DNC because they managed to get a bunch of other races fixed,
but not hers.

Posted by: Bert G at November 16, 2018 12:54 PM (tOP4K)
...............

While they're fixing things, take a look at her teeth.

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (HgMAr)

170 Why is there a "White House press pool" anyway?

There is no reason to credential anyone because they work for some entity that was run by a guy who owns half of Montana.

Treat it like the yoga class at the local Jew-gym, or for that matter Black Friday at the Apple Store: the first fifty to sign in get through the door.

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (8erNz)

171 how many divisions are at this judge's command. fuck little jimmy acoster. i still say he must wear a propeller beanie if he wants to ask a question of anyone. fucking bullshit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (KP5rU)

172 Would you mind if I share something inspiring from long ago? (That I first heard in a movie I like)

Maybe timeless ?
May I share it so that you may not think you bear the weight of the world just this day.

Thanks.

Let me copy-paste for this deserves every letter:

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (Tr9jL)

173 I think either ignore Acosta entirely, or fatigue the response by letting him quack incessantly until everybody gets tired of it and him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (Wd55D)

174
Why are any of you surprised? I told you so:

>>>Of course Fake News Acosta is gonna win.
These are the Times we live in.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 14, 2018 07:23 PM (LLkDq)

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Creator of the Nood alert at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (ut0PJ)

175 From Wikipedia (I know it from OBLIVION)

Horatius

The first poem, Horatius, describes how Publius Horatius and two companions, Spurius Lartius and Titus Herminius, held the Sublician bridge against the Etruscan army of Lars Porsena, King of Clusium. The three heroes are willing to die in order to prevent the enemy from crossing the bridge, and sacking an otherwise ill-defended Rome. While the trio close with the front ranks of the Etruscans, the Romans hurriedly work to demolish the bridge, leaving their enemies on the wrong side of the swollen Tiber.[3]

This poem contains the often-quoted lines:

Then out spake brave Horatius,
The Captain of the Gate:
"To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his Gods."

This is a very good and accurate poem.
You should all commit it to memory if it is not already.

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (Tr9jL)

176 Skip our dinner? Don't like the way we mock and ridicule you!

Ha Ha! Joke's on you, Bad Orange Man!

Judge says WE have the power to decide who shall enjoy First Amendment rights!

Maybe we'll put Creepy Porn Lawyer in the front row next press conference!

Posted by: WHCA at November 16, 2018 12:57 PM (DuAZ5)

What the hell is the WHCA and why do they have any power in this?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (F/KeJ)

177 131 Mollie has the solution: stop televising the press conferences.
Posted by: Caliban at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (QE8X6)

This.

Posted by: m at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (+ZMGe)

178 How do you spell Fuck Off in Latin?

Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (FhXTo)

179 God said "you want written law ... I'll give you so much law you'll be sorry you asked ... why couldn't you all just get along?"

well, that may not be exactly how we got Old Testament law, but if they demand normal decorum can't work ... let Trump (the executive) give a whole list of "laws" (rules of order, whatever) on what behavior is acceptable for acquiring/retaining a hard pass. Same rules apply to all ...

Stand in line for questions at a fixed mic, 30 second time limit per QUESTION (no politicking of speechifying, no yelling, no touching interns or microphones, no lying, no false premises, etc.)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (Cus5s)

180 Why did Fox come out in support of Jimmy when, AFAIK, no body in the media defended Fox when the purple lipped on attacked them?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (nBr1j)

181 134. Wasserman who works for Charlie Cook

Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (HrSJb)

182 No due process ?
Give him a nice Title 9 trial, then revoke it again.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (tSXzq)

183 trump and sanders do conference by Twitter and only allow Right blogs questions.

Posted by: willow at November 16, 2018 01:02 PM (aSpXp)

184 A judge will rule that Trump must call on him.
Posted by: josephistan at November 16, 2018 12:44 PM (7HtZB)

Acosta makes an ass of himself in a press conference. Trump pulls a luxurious, gold-plated .45, and shoots Acosta in the head. Then pardons himself, since murder is a Federal crime in DC.

Posted by: just the punchline at November 16, 2018 01:02 PM (fDU8w)

185 >>This is spot-on. Taking his pass was an un-Trumpian error.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 12:55 PM (Bdeb0)

It was not a mistake at all. Acosta is a preening douchbag who needs to be reigned in. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (F/KeJ)

He wasn't reined in at all. Quite the contrary. Allow Zod to do your thinking for you.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 01:02 PM (Bdeb0)

186
Well they did say they will "temporarily" give Accost-u his pass back and write some new "guidelines" regarding behavior so...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 12:53 PM (O2RFr)

Guideline 1: If you're a preening douchebag dickhead with an excessive sense of self-importance you can't ask questions.

Guideline 2: The president is armed and willing to enforce Guideline 1.

Guideline 3: See Guidelines 1 and 2.

____________

lol. I approve this plan!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 16, 2018 01:02 PM (fqUgw)

187 Let Jimmy have his mic but turn off the lights and leave.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:02 PM (nBr1j)

188
how many divisions are at this judge's command. fuck little jimmy
acoster. i still say he must wear a propeller beanie if he wants to ask a
question of anyone. fucking bullshit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 16, 2018 01:00 PM (KP5rU)

The judge did reluctantly say he can't make the White House take Acosta's questions.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:02 PM (F/KeJ)

189 The courts have absolutely no right to re-instate that press pass, and
that's why they did it - to show they can. Same as DACA injunctions and
everything else. They are railroading the President and all of his
voters.
---
This.

It is long past time to tell the courts that they lack standing to rule in areas where they promote progressive causes and ignore their rulings entirely.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2018 01:02 PM (kOpft)

190 Part 2 of what I would do?

Next Press Conference, have Sarah come out and give the usual opening statement.

Then say 'Until further notice, as we are no longer in control of our own Press Conferences, we choose to exercise our Right of Freedom of Speech, and will no longer be fielding questions. Have a good day.'

/drop the mic, and walk offstage.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:03 PM (NgKpN)

191 Another possibility: hold pressers as video conferences, with questions submitted and voted on by the reporters.

I rather like video conferences, myself, especially when they feature a parallel messaging capability - much like the HQ - in addition to live speech.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 01:03 PM (1+J19)

192 I can almost be sympathetic to the argument that, once admitted to the Press Corps, journalists have a right to fair and non-arbitrary treatment. It is a government agency after all.

The problem is, in the history of the press corps (which includes Sam Donaldson and Helen Thomas, btw), no one has EVER been such a jackass to actually force the rules and procedures of the Press Corps to a "test case" like this.

Take a bow, Jimmy, you psoriatic glans-hole.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 01:03 PM (BRvh1)

193 I guess we all have a "right" to a press pass. When can I expect mine? And, isn't it funny that you have to have a press pass, but ID isn't required to vote?

Posted by: Astro at November 16, 2018 01:03 PM (tvwhk)

194 CNN has many hard passes outstanding.
Acosta is one employee out of many.
Why the focus that one clown out of the others in the organization?

Posted by: Wontsubmit at November 16, 2018 01:03 PM (122Gu)

195 148
I'd tell the judge try and enforce it

I agree. They need to start copying techniques of the left.

Posted by: dartist at November 16, 2018 01:04 PM (K22Va)

196 I wonder if its possible to act like such a complete jackass that the WH would have the right to kick you out. Apparently not.

Posted by: Runway Hitchhiker at November 16, 2018 01:04 PM (IkUFe)

197
Number three

I agree. Time to require a submission of all questions in writing.

Posted by: Pep at November 16, 2018 12:38 PM (qrklq)

Hell no... don't take any questions from any of the vultures. Shut down press conferences and make it very clear that CNN is why the press can't have nice things.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 12:56 PM (F/KeJ)

Nah. Issue answers to the written questions in a single document, in WordPerfect format. But don't specify which answer goes to which question.

Reporters are smart (as they keep telling us), they shouldn't have any problem working that out.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2018 01:04 PM (veoSD)

198 It was not a mistake at all. Acosta is a preening
douchbag who needs to be reigned in. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner
at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (F/KeJ)

He wasn't reined in at all. Quite the contrary. Allow Zod to do your thinking for you.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 01:02 PM (Bdeb0)

He will be. There is nothing in the court order that requires the White House to hold press conferences or take Acosta's questions if they do. ALL press conferences should be suspended immediately pending this law suit.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:04 PM (F/KeJ)

199

Given all the false stories and retractions that the Communist News Network has published, I'm surprised they still have access to the WH.

Were I PDT, I would've revoked their access after about the fifth retraction and issued a statement that said, "Accurate reporting is essential to a nation where the people are in charge. CNN has failed in that regard and we would be remiss in our duties to the American people if we allowed an organization that repeatedly refuses to tell them the truth access to the White House."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 16, 2018 01:04 PM (HaL55)

200 Every answer to a CNN question needs to be No Comment, next question.

And wtf, a Trump appointed judge ruled this way? Ugh. So much for the theory that he was appointing constitutionalists.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 16, 2018 01:04 PM (wUv3p)

201 Andrew Jackson had a solution that Trump might use,"(Justice) John Marshall has made his decision: now let him enforce it!

Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at November 16, 2018 01:04 PM (vI+F1)

202 It's a tax!

Posted by: John Roberts at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (1+J19)

203
Put Acosta's seat in the back of the room facing the wall.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (TAmPV)

204 >>Sure, initially. But after a few repetitions it'll be old hat, and editors will be clamoring for new stories, and wondering why they're paying reporters to sit on their asses and watch this dumpster fire. Meanwhile Acosta will be looking increasingly ridiculous. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 12:57 PM (Wd55D)

We're going to be hearing "Russian collusion" again for the next two years...echoing the previous two years. Old hat? For you and I, sure. Not for the mouth-breathers, though. There is no "old hat" in the Fifth Estate for half of the population, more's the pity.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (Bdeb0)

205 194 CNN has many hard passes outstanding.
Acosta is one employee out of many.
Why the focus that one clown out of the others in the organization?
Posted by: Wontsubmit at November 16, 2018 01:03 PM (122Gu)

Yeah, you gotta think that behind the scenes, the other folks at CNN are seething. "I want to be the next guy who behaves like an asshole to Trump, but Acosta won't get out of the way!"

Posted by: josephistan at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (7HtZB)

206 178 How do you spell Fuck Off in Latin?

Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (FhXTo)

uckfay offay?

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (d7Ww2)

207 Seat Acosta in the back next to the men's room and a college reporter with bad personal hygiene. Don't ever call on him.

Fuck that. Make the asshole judge rule you must call on him.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (SS4vH)

208 to judge wrongly. And then the atmosphere of the whole city, and then the whole world, becomes one of slander, and quarreling and feuds, when faith in the sages is not strong in the land.

just sayin

Posted by: willow at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (aSpXp)

209 Every answer to a CNN question needs to be No Comment, next question.

"You have a question?" Listens.

"Yep, that's a question all right. Next!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (1+J19)

210 What I would do...in the first presser, give the one and only question to Acosta. After the question, end the presser with the comment "lets see Jim get a judge to order me to hold longer conferences."

Then, only answer one question in all subsequent pressers if Acosta is there.

Posted by: thesgm at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (y2v/7)

211 Again : Lottery System.

Draw balls from a bingo tumbler.

Acosta is assigned a number that never gets put in the tumbler.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (UnA8+)

212 Hey I like this guy!
(Info Wars)
https://tinyurl.com/ydh35yyj

Minus the globalism, he'd fit in well here.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (xqfqx)

213 1 The aim is to emasculate Trump; to make him look powerless and cucked.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 16, 2018 12:37 PM (ykYG2)

------

And it's working, Trump is no Andrew Jackson.

Posted by: MAGA at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (/8RAd)

214 Remember, this is just a temporary order. It could be that Judge Kelly wants to fully litigate all the due process issues, to give the government a chance to present a persuasive case that a press pass doesn't fall within any penumbras. It would clarify what rights exist, if any, and set a precedent. Honest judges do reverse their TROs sometimes.

Posted by: Lab Rat at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (N0pUw)

215 Treat it like the yoga class at the local Jew-gym

Wut?

Posted by: bonhomme at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (9qZ3S)

216 I guess we all have a "right" to a press pass. When can I expect mine?
And, isn't it funny that you have to have a press pass, but ID isn't
required to vote?
---
Wrong.

You're not a progressive, therefore you have no rights in America.

Posted by: The system fools put their trust in at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (kOpft)

217 just give him a seat in the back and ignore him
Posted by: brak

What if he starts acting up? Time-out? Throw an eraser at him?

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (wW03z)

think faster, like 830 fps...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (8D42x)

218 The only highlight of this story is Acosta gets to run the show again, annoying more and more journalists. Acosta is saved, but the rest of them are going to suffer. Almost makes the ruling worth it.

Almost.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (Agn5J)

219 44 Revoke all permanent passes. Make entrance into the press conferences subject to a press lottery. Every. Fucking. Day.
Posted by: Timon at November 16, 2018 12:43 PM (G5IFy)

Ah, yes. Lottery held at 6 am, daily. Must be present to win. No guarentees any presser will take place that day, and time of presser subject to change without notice. No warrenties implied nor granted.

Posted by: morton at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (eXs9O)

220 >>He will be. There is nothing in the court order that requires the White House to hold press conferences or take Acosta's questions if they do. ALL press conferences should be suspended immediately pending this law suit.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:04 PM (F/KeJ)

You sound confident that either press conferences will be suspended, or that the White House will simply embargo Acosta's questions.

Confident enough, perhaps, to wager...

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (Bdeb0)

221 211 Again : Lottery System.

Draw balls from a bingo tumbler.

Acosta is assigned a number that never gets put in the tumbler.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (UnA8+)

"Dammit! They never call eleventy-seven!"

Posted by: josephistan at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (7HtZB)

222 Shit like this is why I suspect the judiciary is going to be instituted much differently in the next republic. And at this point, there is guaranteed to be one. We're just finishing picking teams and starting positions, now.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (67XdO)

223 It was not a mistake at all. Acosta is a preening douchbag who needs to be reigned in. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (F/KeJ)

He wasn't reined in at all. Quite the contrary. Allow Zod to do your thinking for you.

By the way, thank you for correcting redbanzai's use of 'reign'.

For God's sake, people. 'Reign' means to rule. 'Rein' is the cords that go to the bit in a horse's mouth, and to 'rein in' is to slow or stop the horse.

And don't you effing EVER use 'hone in' on this blog or I'll have to fire up the torch.

Pedantically yours...

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (8erNz)

224 Just once I'd like to hear the phrase "fuck you, executive privilege".

We really need a good Andrew Jackson type quote.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (SS4vH)

225 Just another simple reminder that the united States has joined the third world in having a completely lawless dysfunctional "government".

Act accordingly

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (boNFp)

226 This reminds me of the twitter ruling: Trump can't block anyone.

And yet --- Twiter gets away with shadowbanning and suspending Congressmen's accounts.

HOW DOES THAT WORK, oh champions of free speech Lefties?!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (W+vEI)

227 Wasserman calls Florida Senate for Rick Scott

Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 12:51 PM (HrSJb)
****************************
I thought they had till sometime over the weekend Sat/Sun for PBC.
What's the latest?

Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (hECVl)

228 214; sure. and later, i'll have monkeys flying out of my ass. the judge is a dickbag.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (KP5rU)

229 I think the WH just shouldn't show for the press conferences any more.

Just let them in, and have no one come out for the briefing.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (9VeU0)

230 Every answer to a CNN question needs to be No Comment, next question.

"You have a question?" Listens.

"Yep, that's a question all right. Next!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 01:05 PM (1+J19)

---

Trump staff, we know you lurk here.

Please make this happen.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 16, 2018 01:08 PM (LX21o)

231

The judge did reluctantly say he can't make the White House take Acosta's questions.

So when Accost-her never gets called on and he starts his inevitable sniveling, SHS can say, "Hey, the judge said we didn't have to call on him. We're just following his ruling."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 16, 2018 01:08 PM (HaL55)

232 Remember, this is just a temporary order. It could
be that Judge Kelly wants to fully litigate all the due process issues,
to give the government a chance to present a persuasive case that a
press pass doesn't fall within any penumbras. It would clarify what
rights exist, if any, and set a precedent. Honest judges do reverse
their TROs sometimes.

Posted by: Lab Rat at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (N0pUw)

No... Kelly just proved he is unfit for the bench.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:08 PM (F/KeJ)

233 Dear Jim,
You can pick up your new credentials...
at the Saudi Embassy.

GEOTUS

Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2018 01:08 PM (FhXTo)

234 Trump says he has finished answers to Mueller's questions.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2018 01:08 PM (hECVl)

235 178
FVCK off ? Idk

How do you spell it ?

If you want me to consulate with you I will.
It's all not surprising in anyway really but I have hugs to spare.

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:08 PM (Tr9jL)

236 217
just give him a seat in the back and ignore him

Dana Perino said they used to do that during the Bush years. A time out like little kids.

Posted by: dartist at November 16, 2018 01:08 PM (K22Va)

237 The White House had spelled out its reasons for revoking his credentials in a tweet from White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders and in a statement after CNN filed its lawsuit. But the judge said those "belated efforts were hardly sufficient to satisfy due process."

Why does the WH even have to "spell out reasons" for what they do? IANAL, but if party A decides to treat party B in a way that party B doesn't like, B doesn't always have the right to "due process". It depends on the context. Isn't that correct?

If there is something like a contractual violation, then B is entitled to "due process". But if I tell B, "you are no longer welcome in my house", I have no need to justify my decision and if B doesn't like it, B is not entitled to "due process".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (/qEW2)

238

It's too bad the Google employee who got fired didnt have this judge.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Creator of the Nood alert at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (ut0PJ)

239 This entire exercise has done nothing but enhance Accosta's sense of self importance and made the WH look incompetent and powerless.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (a0IVu)

240 Due process?

How do you write a guide line for kicking out preening assholes?

Posted by: MAGA at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (/8RAd)

241 >>>Pedantically yours...

You better rain in your tone!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (Agn5J)

242 Well, at least we won the AZ Sec of State Race. SOS is also the LT governor in AZ. does not make up for Sinema, but at least we have that for 2020

Posted by: Jonah at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (HrSJb)

243 Posted by: Lab Rat at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (N0pUw)

Judges only grant injunctions like this based on the idea that the original complaint has a good chance of being correct.

Otherwise, they let the action go, and fix it AFTER the court case is heard and decided.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (NgKpN)

244 Secret Agent Jim Acosta, Licensed to Annoy

Posted by: wth at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (HgMAr)

245 Barky got his questions in advance (and who scripted them?) and had the answers on his teleprompter ... but that was just fine with the mafia media.

Because they are not "reporters", they are DNC propagandists, run by the oligarchs/globalists. They seem certain they have the critical mass to ignore voters and continue their agenda. Five Eyes is still operating in cahoots with our own DeepState, as PJ Watson presents the May sellout on Brexit, analogous to our government ignoring our voters.

YouTube link to Watson on Brexit vote being ignored
https://tinyurl.com/yblx69hr

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (Cus5s)

246 Trump needs to hire the bouncers from the Peppermint Lounge. They know how to handle these mugs.

Posted by: Regular joe at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (7PllL)

247 I like a lot of these suggestions but I'll go one better. No more press conferences. No more press contact, period. The Executive is under no obligation to inform of the media of jack-shit. It's a courtesy.

Disband the Press Corps, eliminate the position of Press Secretary and inform all employees of the executive branch at the federal level that anyone caught speaking to the media about anything will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for leaking.

Then run all communications from the White House, and stream it online.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (AzW6q)

248 The judiciary is our Praetorian Guard.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 16, 2018 01:10 PM (KUaJL)

249 >>Revoke all permanent passes. Make entrance into the press conferences subject to a press lottery. Every. Fucking. Day.

I love that idea!

Also, allow bloggers to enter the lottery --- if citizen Acosta has a right to be there, then so does citizen blogger nobody.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 16, 2018 01:10 PM (W+vEI)

250 100 right?

The Daily Mail little ice age article mentioned in the previous thread has a map of the Roman Empire 117AD. (Anno Domini for you millennials).

Just west of Arabia it references a place they refer to as Judea. Scanned the map closely but could not find a reference to Palestinia.

Posted by: Jingles still calling for Wild Bill at November 16, 2018 01:10 PM (Cz+xD)

251 You know what. Cancel the in person daily briefing. Don't give the collective media turds, which now apparent includes Fox, any more than a sheet of paper.

Fuck these people. Who needs their lies anyway.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2018 01:10 PM (SS4vH)

252 229 I think the WH just shouldn't show for the press conferences any more.

Just let them in, and have no one come out for the briefing.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (9VeU0)

Have an old man with a banjo come up and just start picking at it.

He'll call on people, but if they don't request a song (and that's all they're allowed to do, request a song), he ignores them.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:11 PM (UnA8+)

253 We should streamline the process and have a federal judge sit at the resolute desk. All presidential decisions must be signed by the judge to be official. The president can have a cubicle in the basement and send any documents awaiting approval up via the judges intern. The intern will scan all communications and can choose to not pass them along if he does not feel they merit the judges attention.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 16, 2018 01:11 PM (OM1pY)

254 And don't you effing EVER use 'hone in' on this blog or I'll have to fire up the torch.

Pedantically yours...
Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (8erNz)

"Hone in" and "Home in" are both perfectly acceptable.

"Honing" means removing or deforming material until an ideal form (viz. a knife edge) is reached. It is an incremental process with a defined goal and therefore a perfectly serviceable metaphor for incremental progress.

I still don't like it, and consider "home in" to be a better device, but i just felt like being prickly.

so, mnyeah.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 01:11 PM (BRvh1)

255 Like I said: first fifty people that show up at the WH door get in and ask questions. Screw this credentialed press garbage.

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:11 PM (8erNz)

256 This entire exercise has done nothing but enhance
Accosta's sense of self importance and made the WH look incompetent and
powerless.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (a0IVu)

Only if they let it.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:11 PM (F/KeJ)

257

uckfay offay?

It's "off-way."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 16, 2018 01:12 PM (HaL55)

258 And don't you effing EVER use 'hone in' on this blog or I'll have to fire up the torch.

This knife is dull, I need to sharpen it. Please get the hone in the drawer.

*sticks out tongue*
*makes neener neener face*

Posted by: bonhomme at November 16, 2018 01:12 PM (9qZ3S)

259 158
Let me simplify: If you think this is about Acosta and his pass, or the optics and tactics of removing it, you're missing the forest for the trees. The courts have absolutely no right to re-instate that press pass, and that's why they did it - to show they can. Same as DACA injunctions and everything else. They are railroading the President and all of his voters.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 12:58 PM (AzW6q)
---------------------------------------
THIS too.

It is to underscore that the Judiciary is sovereign ---( a fact we have long since known) --- but also to cement the official, privileged status of a highly exclusive, self-anointed professional guild of fat cats who have arrogated to themselves the name of "the press."

Members of the press (meaning the profession) who are not anointed by the clique, BTW, can go to hell. They have no rights.

And as for the non-professionals, the pamphleteers of old who didn't earn a living writing, or the ordinary citizen, forget about it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2018 01:12 PM (Rxduq)

260 I love that idea!

Also, allow bloggers to enter the lottery --- if citizen Acosta has a right to be there, then so does citizen blogger nobody.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 16, 2018 01:10 PM (W+vEI)

So this. Bloggers are the only ones reporting real news anymore anyway.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:12 PM (F/KeJ)

261 Another Executive Order issued from the bench. Thank God Lefties love the Constitution.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kavanaugh Shitshow Survivor at November 16, 2018 01:12 PM (rZClK)

262 247 Then run all communications from the White House, and stream it online.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 01:09 PM (AzW6q)

Run it through production filters so it looks and sounds like a Trump-ized version of Max Headroom.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:12 PM (UnA8+)

263
I'm pissed off that no one ever told me my First Amendment right gave me a seat at the WH press briefings.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 16, 2018 01:12 PM (TAmPV)

264 "Hone in" and "Home in" are both perfectly acceptable.

"Honing" means removing or deforming material until an ideal form (viz. a knife edge) is reached. It is an incremental process with a defined goal and therefore a perfectly serviceable metaphor for incremental progress.

I know what it is to 'hone', but no one 'hones in' on something.

Sorry, don't accept your reasoning on this.

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (8erNz)

265 what irreparable damage is being done to other reporters by having CameraHogg back in the room? And what irreparable damage is done to the Executive by having a judge overrule it?

There is no irreparable damage to Acosta, who is more the center of attention than ever. Special Rights for FakeNews ... insane ... (but I hope the judge got his children back ... /s )

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (Cus5s)

266 So lemme get this straight:

The WHCA is a private entity operating in interstate commerce that exercises monopoly power over who does or does not get to participate in press conferences by the president of the United States.

And y'all bitches got me for an internet browser?

Posted by: Bill Gates at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (DuAZ5)

267 Yeah but he shouted the loudest IC that was unavoidable want it ? They have monopoly you do not get to choose who gets to ask questions... why do I feel I woke up in ground hog day.

What's different about today.

The media challenged trump and us.

The courts overturned trump and us.

What's different ? Is this a lot sillier than denying the "Muslim ban"? Are the words of power to article 1 any less clear?

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (Tr9jL)

268 Still another thought. How about going ahead, even calling on Acosta, but not getting into an argument with him: just placidly acknowledge having heard what he said, without taking a stand either way.

"It's not an invasion, it's a caravan!"

"Well, that's one way of looking at it, Jim."

[Insert another Acosta rant.]

"Interesting perspective. I'll have to consider that."

I've found that this can be a good way of taking the wind out of the sails of someone who is hot.

Eventually Acosta will run out of steam, then wind up the presser, and send everybody home without getting to ask a question. Rinse. Lather. Repeat. as necessary.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (VP1E6)

269 Run it through production filters so it looks and sounds like a Trump-ized version of Max Headroom.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:12 PM (UnA8+)

-------

That would be awesome.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (AzW6q)

270 uckfay offay?

It's "off-way."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy

I stand corrected,

thank you

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (d7Ww2)

271 Not sure which way the WH should go here. It is obvious bull, but Trump has to deal with a vindictive power-hungry HOR in Jan. They will make up all kinds of reasons for their attempted impeachment, but defying court order might be one. Without that problem, I would just say no to the court.

They should definitely treat him like snail shit if he is let back in. He seems like a national security risk to me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2018 01:14 PM (r+sAi)

272 Want it = wasn't it

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:14 PM (Tr9jL)

273 Trump doesn't have to do press conferences at all. He should announce that since Acosta wastes everybody's time by behaving like a preening asshole and trying to debate Trump at press conferences, he's decided to stop holding them for the media.

But Trump understand that the public has questions about some of his policies, and he wants to answer those questions directly, so he will begin holding Q&A sessions in the White House for members of the public, who will be selected at random and cleared by SS.

This way the public gets its questions answered, and it doesn't have to get them filtered through the hostile, left-wing bias of the Dim-controlled media.

And Trump will have a list of rules drawn up in advance for how public questioners should behave in the conference room, and one of those rules will be that once the president has signalled that he has answered the question, the microphone must be relinquished and the questioner must take his/her seat and not attempt to debate the president, thereby wasting everybody's time.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 16, 2018 01:14 PM (fqUgw)

274 *sticks out tongue*
*makes neener neener face*

Grabs tongue, rubs with hone until sharp.

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:14 PM (8erNz)

275 The case should be simple - the White House just needs to bring in video examples of Acosta being rude, and thereby demonstrate that all the reporters, except Acosta, seem to have an unofficial standard they adhere to, which Acosta does not adhere to (as demonstrated).

So he's banned because he doesn't adhere to the commonly acceptable standards of behavior nearly all the other members of the press use and the White House expects.

As it is now, it's not a daily press briefing, it's the Jim Acosta show.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 16, 2018 01:14 PM (37IEG)

276 Make them wait out overnight in line. Every day.

Posted by: Someguy at November 16, 2018 01:15 PM (qt8Bt)

277 Once Sarah has the new "policies and procedures" in place, which should include a requirement to be respectful to the president, Trump should call on Acosta, let him put his foot in his mouth, and then revoke his hardpass with full due process, and not one thing for some federal judgie to find at fault.

Posted by: XOXO at November 16, 2018 01:15 PM (MUOwd)

278 Time for weekly press conferences. Make then squeal about their frequency. Daily conferences are unnecessary (both legally and actual information). Once a week is fine.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 16, 2018 01:15 PM (wGbBR)

279 >>So this. Bloggers are the only ones reporting real news anymore anyway.

Hell, start up that remove hook-up with news organizations across the country.
Oh, look! That cute weather gal from the Denver Fox affiliate has a question! Oh, and that journalist from the Tennessee small town daily!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (W+vEI)

280 Oh .. I see ... every one is rightly unerved about a 10 day long election.

10 days long - counting votes - I can count very high in 10
Days...

10
Day
Election
Counting

Yes. This is bad indeed. Much worse than Acosta tbh

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (Tr9jL)

281 Grabs tongue, rubs with hone until sharp.

Too late, my tongue's already sharp.
Also, where's the hone? Is the hone in the drawer?

Posted by: bonhomme at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (9qZ3S)

282 Little prick has already gone to the WH to pick up his pass

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

283 So do I have a Constitutional right to a press pass too or is Acosta a special kind of citizen?

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (BJKQV)

284 This is so fucking asinine.

Posted by: phone of kari at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (sd1SN)

285 217 just give him a seat in the back and ignore him
Posted by: brak

What if he starts acting up? Time-out? Throw an eraser at him?

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2018 12:40 PM (wW03z)

think faster, like 830 fps...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 16, 2018 01:06 PM (8D42x)

---------

Although the thought of Jim Acosta's brains splattered across a wall is warming, think of the precedent.

Words are words.
Words are not violence.
Contrary to what the Progessive Left think,
Words by themselves are never justification for any violence, much less homicide.

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (xFmWK)

286 Not sure which way the WH should go here. It is
obvious bull, but Trump has to deal with a vindictive power-hungry HOR
in Jan. They will make up all kinds of reasons for their attempted
impeachment, but defying court order might be one. Without that problem,
I would just say no to the court.

They should definitely treat him like snail shit if he is let back in. He seems like a national security risk to me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2018 01:14 PM (r+sAi)

Let them impeach him... let them impeach him every day of the week. There is no way hen is convicted in the Senate and they only reveal themselves as the petty assholes they are.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (F/KeJ)

287 In further thought, there's no reason Orange Man should take questions in person. This could readily be done on the 'net, hell, even on Twitter.

This press-pool nonsense restricts those who can ask questions to those funded by organizations who can plop a seven-figure-remunerated parrot in DC.

There is no reason for this any longer.

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (8erNz)

288 I think under 14th Amendment we are all due a press pass.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (9VeU0)

289 280 Oh .. I see ... every one is rightly unerved about a 10 day long election.

10 days long - counting votes - I can count very high in 10
Days...

10
Day
Election
Counting

Yes. This is bad indeed. Much worse than Acosta tbh
Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (Tr9jL)

And the longer it goes, the more Dems win seats...

4 now in California alone... which makes ZERO news as the MSM only talks about Florida.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (NgKpN)

290 i think the judge here didn't want to set precedent with a ruling against cnn that could be used by future presidents in some prejudicial way. it should be kicked up to the supreme court.

that's a guess.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 16, 2018 01:18 PM (Pg+x7)

291 I've got jet lag. It's snowing hard. Should I put on pants?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:18 PM (nBr1j)

292 It is obvious bull, but Trump has to deal with a vindictive power-hungry
HOR in Jan. They will make up all kinds of reasons for their attempted
impeachment, but defying court order might be one. Without that problem,
I would just say no to the court.
---
Meh.

Trump can always pull a Yeltsin and call up the military to disband the congress.

We aren't a nation of laws any more, so we might as well act like it.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2018 01:18 PM (kOpft)

293 Too late, my tongue's already sharp.
Also, where's the hone? Is the hone in the drawer?

Check for the hone in Jim Acosta's backside.

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:18 PM (8erNz)

294 >>> I've got jet lag. It's snowing hard. Should I put on pants?

Make fists with your toes.

Posted by: John McClane at November 16, 2018 01:19 PM (Agn5J)

295 >>282 Little prick has already gone to the WH to pick up his pass Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

Of course he has. And next press conference, he'll be there. And he'll ask a question. And he'll be answered. What happens after that depends on whether Trump or Acosta win at being Trump.

And that is the way of the world.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 01:19 PM (Bdeb0)

296 What a hono!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2018 01:19 PM (Evws/)

297 273
Like town halls

Interesting. If chosen random trump could handle it

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:19 PM (Tr9jL)

298 291: no.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 16, 2018 01:19 PM (Pg+x7)

299 Little prick has already gone to the WH to pick up his pass

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

I would have given it to him with a smile. Let him learn how meaningless that pass is.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:19 PM (F/KeJ)

300 280
Oh .. I see ... every one is rightly unerved about a 10 day long election.

10 days long - counting votes - I can count very high in 10

Days...

10

Day

Election

Counting

Yes. This is bad indeed. Much worse than Acosta tbh

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (Tr9jL)
This is why we have to have early voting! Because otherwise the elections would go even LONGER than 10 days!
I'm not sure why we're voting at all any more. Why dimwit Democrats are okay being disenfranchised well...
I did say dimwit didn't I.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 16, 2018 01:19 PM (37IEG)

301 Wasn't there a book where a character named his son Honed (ho ned)?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 16, 2018 01:20 PM (LX21o)

302 Irregardless, we all know Trump is right!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2018 01:20 PM (Evws/)

303 Yes if this is not destroyed by the SC we have a bone to pick... musical. Until then I'm chillin on this one

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:20 PM (Tr9jL)

304 Oh .. I see ... every one is rightly unerved about a 10 day long election

---

It's a shame nobody thought to put anything about that in the Constitution.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 16, 2018 01:20 PM (LX21o)

305 180 Why did Fox come out in support of Jimmy when, AFAIK, no body in the media defended Fox when the purple lipped on attacked them?
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:01 PM (nBr1j)
-----------------------------------------------
As to the former, because it's all about class privilege. Fox is Big Corporate Media. They want the privileged clique to remain.
If the press room were open to more conservative voices, their status and power would be greatly reduced.

The WH Press Corps actually DID (sweetly and secretly) get Obama to squelch the idea of excluding Fox from the press room itself. There are many in the WHPC and elsewhere who realize the value of having the room only 98% pro-Obama, who know the optics of getting rid of the ONLY opposition is bad.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (Rxduq)

306 A press pass is like an invitation. If you're are invited to an event and you start misbehaving, you can be ejected. You are not being deprived of property. It's hard to see how it's justifiable to conflate the physical invitation or a press pass with the conditional extension of a courtesy.

Those ejected are being deprived of their liberty ... to be a nuisance. But to argue that this is unjust would be like saying that criminals have the right to commit crimes, because to stop them from doing so would be depriving them of "liberty" without "due process". This judge really sounds like a dimwit.

I hate how these cretins paper over their obviously immoral and nonsensical ideas with a veneer of legal jargon and don't get called out on it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (/qEW2)

307 226 This reminds me of the twitter ruling: Trump can't block anyone.

And yet --- Twiter gets away with shadowbanning and suspending Congressmen's accounts.

HOW DOES THAT WORK, oh champions of free speech Lefties?!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (W+vEI)

Because it's OK when we do it.

Posted by: Lefties at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (xjiRE)

308 I woulda wiped my ass with it first.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (na6TI)

309 Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (8erNz)

Let's just hone in on your objection here.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (xQfPr)

310
This press-pool nonsense restricts those who can
ask questions to those funded by organizations who can plop a
seven-figure-remunerated parrot in DC.

There is no reason for this any longer.

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (8erNz)

If that is the rules now, it needs to end immediately.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (F/KeJ)

311 Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (8erNz)

-----

Bingo. Circle gets the square. Just get them all out. The President no longer needs them press to communicate with anyone.

This is horse and buggy stuff.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (aYAWQ)

312 283
So do I have a Constitutional right to a press pass too or is Acosta a special kind of citizen?

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (BJKQV)
Yes - he has money behind him that bought a bunch of machines and hired a bunch of people. Other than that they're us and self selected.
You on the other hand don't have the amount of money needed to self select.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (37IEG)

313 Gross, but it had to be said.

Posted by: Shopgirl #PatrickIsMahomesie at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (na6TI)

314 >>>I would have given it to him with a smile. Let him learn how meaningless that pass is.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:19 PM (F/KeJ)

*Puts vaseline on underside of pass*

Posted by: Jingles still calling for Wild Bill at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (Cz+xD)

315 284 This is so fucking asinine.
Posted by: phone of kari at November 16, 2018 01:16 PM (sd1SN)

Is everyone else realizing just how asinine ALL news is these days? Look at every single "top story", and it's just pure unadulterated 100% cold-brew jackassery all the way down.

Invading "migrants"? Lil' Jimmy's press pass? Half of CA burning to the ground because Gov. Moonbeam doesn't understand basic land management? Europe wanting to re-militarize to "defend themselves" from the U.S.?

Seriously... has the entire world collectively lost their goddamn minds? Am I taking crazy pills? Are we about a season or two away from "Ow, My Balls!" premiering on Wednesday Prime-time?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (BRvh1)

316 Why didn't the courts (or media lawyers) care when Barky went "too long" between press conferences?
That harmed them ALL, while the WH removing one political campaigner actually HELPED them ALL get more time to ask real questions. But normal decorum is now out the window ... you want rules/laws/due process ... we'll give it to you good and hard.

(except Hillary/Rosie/Mueller not in prison means the DeepState mafia is still running DC)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (Cus5s)

317 We continue to play their game, though. A once weekly press conference would be more than adequate. ANd they could not bitch about "access." There is absoloutely nothing gained by doing these daily.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (wGbBR)

318 223 It was not a mistake at all. Acosta is a preening douchbag who needs to be reigned in. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 12:59 PM (F/KeJ)

He wasn't reined in at all. Quite the contrary. Allow Zod to do your thinking for you.

By the way, thank you for correcting redbanzai's use of 'reign'.

For God's sake, people. 'Reign' means to rule. 'Rein' is the cords that go to the bit in a horse's mouth, and to 'rein in' is to slow or stop the horse.

And don't you effing EVER use 'hone in' on this blog or I'll have to fire up the torch.

Pedantically yours...
Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (8erNz)

JEM, at this point and time I'd like to hone in on the fact that you obviously came to play.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (RD7QR)

319 How come Antifa and Occupy Wall Street and similar organizations never protest the seven figure incomes going to doofii like Jim Acosta?
He gets very well compensated for being observably stupid and contributing nothing to society.
I think that's worth of protest by the left if anything is.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (nBr1j)

320 292 Trump can always pull a Yeltsin and call up the military to disband the congress.

We aren't a nation of laws any more, so we might as well act like it.
Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2018 01:18 PM (kOpft)

At this point, go for it.

Next State of the Union, order the military to round up a few choice Demoncrats (Maxine Waters first and foremost) and arrest them and ship them off to GITMO.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:23 PM (UnA8+)

321 299 Little prick has already gone to the WH to pick up his pass

I'd put him front and center, roped off with a purple rope about 5' from all the others. The reactions from the other jealous little twits will make news for days.

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2018 01:23 PM (DCYln)

322

I stand corrected,

thank you

Your welcome.
I'm sublingual.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 16, 2018 01:23 PM (HaL55)

323 The WH should announce they're moving the press to the EOB. Get all of them out of the WH. When there is a press conference, they can be called back to the WH. Revoke everyone's hard pass. Fuck them all.

Posted by: Piet Mondrian at November 16, 2018 01:23 PM (Z216Q)

324 Ah, yes. Lottery held at 6 am, daily. Must be present to win. No guarentees any presser will take place that day, and time of presser subject to change without notice. No warrenties implied nor granted.

Posted by: morton at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (eXs9O)

Ha ha, that's golden!

Posted by: Max Power at November 16, 2018 01:23 PM (q177U)

325 307 Because it's OK when we do it.
Posted by: Lefties at November 16, 2018 01:21 PM (xjiRE)

Or, how they'd actually say it.

"Well YOU don't have rights! YOU'RE not people!"

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (UnA8+)

326 Check for the hone in Jim Acosta's backside.

Fire up the torch!

: )

Posted by: bonhomme at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (9qZ3S)

327 How come Antifa and Occupy Wall Street and similar organizations never protest the seven figure incomes going to doofii like Jim Acosta?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (nBr1j)

I'm sure they receive sizeable portions of those seven figures.

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch, Inhaling an Unhealthy Amount of the Oaken Goodness at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (gh7cp)

328 I guess Trump's due process rights weren't violated when the government decided to spy on him and his campaign.

Posted by: MAGA at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (Km5ke)

329 Breaking: Judge issues an injunction ordering the White House to
reinstate Jim Acosta's press pass. The case is not over and this is not a
ruling on whether or not the administration violated CNN/Acosta's
First/Fifth Amendment rights.

https://twitter.com/amber_athey/status/
1063456352914292736

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (Evws/)

330 Apparently Trump said if at any time they felt disrespected, he and his staff will end the press conference/briefing and leave.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (a0IVu)

331 I know what it is to 'hone', but no one 'hones in' on something.

Sorry, don't accept your reasoning on this.
Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (8erNz)

Agree. We already have well-respected metaphorical uses for "hone", and "hone in" is not one of them. We have "finely honed" and "honed to perfection". As in: "The democrats' election stealing process has been honed to perfection."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (fDU8w)

332 How come Antifa and Occupy Wall Street and similar organizations never protest the seven figure incomes going to doofii like Jim Acosta?

That would be like protesting your promoter, agent, and bodyguard.

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (DCYln)

333 We continue to play their game, though. A once
weekly press conference would be more than adequate. ANd they could not
bitch about "access." There is absoloutely nothing gained by doing
these daily.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (wGbBR)

Don't hold them at all. Issue press releases as necessary and let the press sit and spin otherwise.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (F/KeJ)

334 ... dershowitz was on one of the news shows and said he thought cnn didn't have a case and shouldn't have brought the suit because once they're shot down they'll look terrible.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 16, 2018 01:24 PM (Pg+x7)

335 I am a reporter, because reasons.

I demand access to the White House press room and TWO SCOOPS of ice cream!

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (4+cDL)

336 If Acosta cannot be singled out for punishment, punish them all. It's not like PDJT would be sacrificing positive coverage from anyone; they all hate him.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, AntiDemFa (Anti-Demofascist) at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (Z216Q)

337 Just got here so apologies if this has been said:

Ask Jimmy Acosta the 1st question. Let him talk all he wants. Refuse to answer. Let him argue all he wants.

Rinse and repeat. When the allotted time is over, announce the end of the press conference. Go back to office and tweet whatever PDT wanted to say.

Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (oM0mm)

338 Trump should state before every press briefing that there is a strict 25 question limit. He should call on Acosta and let him ask as many questions as he likes. Focus exclusively on Acosta and when he has asked 25 questions, end the press conference. Let the other reporters deal with Acosta

Posted by: dri at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (3lRK6)

339 300+ OT

The Emoji Movie Pitch Meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GlZn2fEC10

brutal sarcasm

Posted by: Max Power at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (q177U)

340 315
Seriously... has the entire world collectively lost their goddamn minds? Am I taking crazy pills? Are we about a season or two away from "Ow, My Balls!" premiering on Wednesday Prime-time?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 01:22 PM (BRvh1)

"Ow, My Balls!" won't be available in California because they're about to sue their electric utilities into oblivion.

Posted by: rickl at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (xjiRE)

341 Put a whoopee cushion on Jimmy's chair? Childish, I know.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (nBr1j)

342 291,

only if they're flannel, you're wearing slippers an sipping coffee with Baileys

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (d7Ww2)

343
Ask Jimmy Acosta the 1st question. Let him talk all he wants. Refuse to answer. Let him argue all he wants.

Rinse and repeat. When the allotted time is over, announce the end of the press conference. Go back to office and tweet whatever PDT wanted to say.
Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (oM0mm)

That would be letting Accosta control the narrative. I prefer ignoring him completely. His ego won't be able to handle that.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (a0IVu)

344 From now on all press passes will require recipients to either wear a dunce cap or a pussy hat. For identification purposes.

Posted by: Fritz at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (Z9C5C)

345 Wild Bill, Wild Bill, I got your horse.
Jumped in the saddle and reined him in.

Posted by: Jingles still calling for Wild Bill at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (Cz+xD)

346 The WH should announce they're moving the press to
the EOB. Get all of them out of the WH. When there is a press
conference, they can be called back to the WH. Revoke everyone's hard
pass. Fuck them all.

Posted by: Piet Mondrian at November 16, 2018 01:23 PM (Z216Q)

This.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (F/KeJ)

347 My two favorite ideas:

- ignore him, as the judge said they can do.
- change the format. Written questions only. That preserves their ability to ask questions and prevents them from grandstanding and acting belligerently.

I'm still not sure how it's a freedom of speech issue. No one is stopping these reporters from expressing themselves in writing or on the air. It doesn't mean having the right to bluster where ever, whenever you choose. If this is decided on a 1A basis, Alex Jones needs to be given back his accounts on all social media.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (/qEW2)

348 This.
https://twitter.com/McAllisterDen/status/1063456771426136070

Posted by: geoffb at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (zOpu5)

349 Also, I made a fun barrel graphic a couple days ago, and I can't use it because for the first time ever NONE OF YOU WILL SCREW UP AND GET EMBARRELLED.

It's like I don't know you people.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (AzW6q)

350 I'm not 100% on this, but I think the judge has to look at the facts in the light most favorable to the moveant during a TRO, and if those facts support the argument, decide if failure to act could cause irreparable harm. Or something like that.

I'm too lazy to look this up in the rules of federal civil procedure, so I could be wrong.

But if that's true, this doesn't mean much about the merits of the case.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (GBteo)

351 340 "Ow, My Balls!" won't be available in California because they're about to sue their electric utilities into oblivion.
Posted by: rickl at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (xjiRE)

"YOU don't DESERVE electricity! YOU'RE not even people, scum!"

--Your Betters

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (UnA8+)

352 315

Yes I am totally aware of what you are pointing out as an anomaly.

Posted by: JDC at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (Tr9jL)

353 Words by themselves are never justification for any violence, much less homicide.
Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (xFmWK)

"In five seconds I'm going to shoot your wife."

"I've got your daughter locked in my basement and there's nothing you can do about it."

"I'm a Cowboys Fan."

There are plenty of "words" that can be sufficient cause for violent response...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (BRvh1)

354
You all do know that ALL these lower level judges are all political hacks and Swamp creatures recommended to the president by other Swamp creatures, yes.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Creator of the Nood alert at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (ut0PJ)

355 nd don't you effing EVER use 'hone in' on this blog or I'll have to fire up the torch.

Pedantically yours...

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:07 PM (8erNz)

So you don't want to talk about the new Russian Honing Missiles that can defeat every weapon we have, and all the ones we'll ever invent in the future?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (37IEG)

356 Jimmy can attend the press conferences but he has to sit in the corner wearing a dunce hat

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (OLCnA)

357 This is incorrect and this judge has overstepped his authority.

Posted by: Sponge at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (F4u7C)

358 The other reporters may hate Accosta but they hate Trump a whole lot more. So letting Accosta hog the limelight and be rude is not going to galvanize them to do anything towards him.

Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (a0IVu)

359 358 The other reporters may hate Accosta but they hate Trump a whole lot more. So letting Accosta hog the limelight and be rude is not going to galvanize them to do anything towards him.

Exactly

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (O2RFr)

360 347 My two favorite ideas:

- ignore him, as the judge said they can do.
- change the format. Written questions only. That preserves their ability to ask questions and prevents them from grandstanding and acting belligerently.

I'm still not sure how it's a freedom of speech issue. No one is stopping these reporters from expressing themselves in writing or on the air. It doesn't mean having the right to bluster where ever, whenever you choose. If this is decided on a 1A basis, Alex Jones needs to be given back his accounts on all social media.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (/qEW2)

"I will only be accepting questions asked in Swahili."

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (UnA8+)

361 Hopefully Trump will have a hone to pick with this judge.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (LX21o)

362 "Homing in". If 'honing in' were a phrase, it would mean you are already a few atoms away from your goal. It is the final touch. Furthermore, you could never get that close in the first place by honing. It would be like telling a reporter to "polish deeper!"

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (Ydn2k)

363
In other words, these judges appointed by President Trump are no different from Chris Wray and Rodenstein -- Wash DC jerkoffs.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Creator of the Nood alert at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (ut0PJ)

364 I had an epiphany late in my military career.. when I took a 'modern history' class.

And they talked about things I was involved in (and almost invariably had it wrong).

The epiphany was that History is what happens when we are just trying to muddle through our lives... its happening around us.

Pay attention folks. We are watching the blatant destruction of the very idea we are a Republic.

Between the Judges, and the Left... respect for the rule of law is eroding, and once gone, won't be restored without major societal upheaval...

We are living in historic times.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (NgKpN)

365 Prole Press Pass:

The White House randomly selects 20 proles to visit the White House and submit their questions about their nation to the White House Press Secretary. Televised. Give and take between the executive and the people who put him/them there.

These "democracy dies in darkness" babblers have outlived their usefulness. They've become a self-selected class of political/ideological gatekeepers. Americans have concerns that aren't reported because they aren't asked. By Americans.

Impractical? Of course. But in a better time, the President and the people would've tolerated far, far less of the posturing, filtering, faux-indignation, and thought-policing that passes as 'journalism' today.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (Bdeb0)

366
"I will only be accepting questions asked in Swahili."
Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (UnA8+)

Asante sana, Mr President.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (nBr1j)

367 That would be so great if this made it to the SCOTUS.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (LX21o)

368 Rig the room with fx. When Jimmie starts to speak loud construction sounds occur - hammering and such.

Posted by: Jingles still calling for Wild Bill at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (Cz+xD)

369 290 i think the judge here didn't want to set precedent with a ruling against cnn that could be used by future presidents in some prejudicial way. it should be kicked up to the supreme court.

that's a guess.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 16, 2018 01:18 PM (Pg+x7)
------------------------------------------------
"Some prejudicial way" here can only mean "in a way the judge doesn't like."

The POTUS has the authority to give or deny access to anyone he pleases. Period.
If Obama HAD thrown out Fox for prejudicial reasons, as he wanted to, he was well within his authority to do so.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (Rxduq)

370 I'm wondering if there are any limits on reporters. Can he scale the White House fence, slip in thru a window?

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (Ydn2k)

371 338
Trump should state before every press briefing that there is a strict 25
question limit. He should call on Acosta and let him ask as many
questions as he likes. Focus exclusively on Acosta and when he has asked
25 questions, end the press conference. Let the other reporters deal
with Acosta

Posted by: dri at November 16, 2018 01:25 PM (3lRK6)

Yup.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (q1VoB)

372 Agree. We already have well-respected metaphorical uses for "hone", and "hone in" is not one of them. We have "finely honed" and "honed to perfection". As in: "The democrats' election stealing process has been honed to perfection."

Exactly. You hammered the nail flush.

Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (8erNz)

373 The first network to air "Oww My Balls" wins.

Posted by: nip at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (DfGpI)

374 >>I'm still not sure how it's a freedom of speech issue.

It's not. It's a due process issue per the judge.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (/tuJf)

375 The suit by CNN alleges that Acosta's First and Fifth Amendment rights were violated by suspending his hard pass. While the judge didn't rule on the underlying case, he signaled they were likely to prevail in their claims.

This decision is absolutely, completely and ridiculously insane. In. Sane.

It's hard to even begin to describe how crazy this is.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (KEr/t)

376 The well-honed plug homed in on Acosta.

Posted by: Zod at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (Bdeb0)

377 Can visitors be refused a White House tour?

Are there places that are off limits?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (LX21o)

378 Pretty sure Jennicet Gutierrez was denied any further passes by the Obama White House after her rude, persistent interruption of that reception back in June 2015.

But of course, her rude interruption was the sort of disallowed incivility, whereas Acosta's is...well...necessary incivility...obviously.

Posted by: TheGipper at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (Sa/HV)

379 "Irreparable Injury?" Really. "Property interest?" You're kidding right. [Query: is a press pass a property right that is transferable to a third party? Does a foreign correspondent/non-citizen have a property right in a White House press pass? If a non-legacy journalist applies for a press pass and is denied, does that person have a right to judicial review of the executive decision to deny the pass?]

Anarchy is the ultimate result of this Alice in Wonderland/Red Queen "jurisprudence". I don't like anarchy.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (hKi6n)

380 The other reporters may hate Accosta but they hate Trump a whole lot more. So letting Accosta hog the limelight and be rude is not going to galvanize them to do anything towards him.

Exactly
Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (O2RFr)

-------------

Acosta, by acting like the douche that he is, gives them stories to report on.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (ffYR/)

381 I am finely boned.

Posted by: Little Lupe at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (vtcmf)

382 372 Agree. We already have well-respected metaphorical uses for "hone", and "hone in" is not one of them. We have "finely honed" and "honed to perfection". As in: "The democrats' election stealing process has been honed to perfection."

Exactly. You hammered the nail flush.
Posted by: JEM at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (8erNz)

Well, as the Japanese say, "The screw that sticks up gets hammered down eventually, after a lot of cursing." That may be a free translation.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (RD7QR)

383 368 Rig the room with fx. When Jimmie starts to speak loud construction sounds occur - hammering and such.
Posted by: Jingles still calling for Wild Bill at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (Cz+xD)

A Braying Donkey.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (UnA8+)

384 I'm tired of all these judges who think they are president.

Trump, no doubt, has information about all these assholes that he needs to put some information into us about their affairs with farm animals, pay for play rulings , and their taste for tranny dominatrixes.

You wonder how these assholes ever passed the bar exam let alone law school. But then again, Bathhouse Barry and the Wookie both got law degrees so apparently it's easier than getting the Creepy Porn Lawyer to beat a woman.

Posted by: Grumblation at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (3FtG5)

385 If Eric Holder can ignore congressional subpoenas, if Hillary Clinton can physically print out emails in response to a subpoena, then trump can ignore this ruling.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 16, 2018 01:32 PM (OM1pY)

386
Trump, no doubt, has information about all these assholes that he needs to put some information into us about their affairs with farm animals, pay for play rulings , and their taste for tranny dominatrixes.

Except Trump nominated this one

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 01:32 PM (O2RFr)

387 It's Trump's fault because he pays attention to every pissant court in the land.

Posted by: skzion at November 16, 2018 01:32 PM (DOpvX)

388 Trump should stop having White House press conferences. Sarah Sanders can work out of some different room - where Acosta is never allowed in, in the first place.

I really don't like even following this judge's insane ruling, though. I really, really don't like it, at all.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 16, 2018 01:32 PM (KEr/t)

389 So if a judge can decided who gets to go to WH press conferences, then it should follow that the WH gets to decide where this judge's courtroom is.

I vote Antarctica.

Posted by: Stu Podaso - Deranged Deplorable Dreg at November 16, 2018 01:32 PM (9LIpg)

390 366

"I will only be accepting questions asked in Swahili."

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (UnA8+)

Asante sana, Mr President.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (nBr1j)
Sanders: Today is official "Klingon day" - all questions must be asked in Klingon.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 16, 2018 01:32 PM (37IEG)

391 384
You wonder how these assholes ever passed the bar exam let alone law school. But then again, Bathhouse Barry and the Wookie both got law degrees so apparently it's easier than getting the Creepy Porn Lawyer to beat a woman.
Posted by: Grumblation at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (3FtG5)

Well, Barry's entire life was laid out and planned out for him the day Stanley decided to get pregnant.

Barry's grandparents were well-connected within Communist circles.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:33 PM (UnA8+)

392 Fox also doing their sympathy piece on the illegal invaders. F them.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2018 01:33 PM (SS4vH)

393 If this is simply an injunction until the trial, the WH could simply not have any press conferences until the trial.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 16, 2018 01:33 PM (/qEW2)

394

It's not. It's a due process issue per the judge.

I wonder if Little Jimmy Accost-her had to sign any agreements in order to be in the press pool for the WH?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 16, 2018 01:33 PM (HaL55)

395 I don't generally like the idea of yanking a press pass because the person being questioned is uncomfortable with the process; that is to say, tough or sometimes abrasive questions. Not a good precedent.

But any simple application of common sense would tell anyone with a shred of objectivity that Acosta was way out of bounds, and that it was not a one time thing. Oh, and by the way, as I recall, a reporter was excoriated by the media when he stood up to Obama after Obama rebuked him at a press conference for being too persistent.

The level of double standards, hypocrisy, and lack of fairness and balance have reached insane levels. No solutions from here - the party that theoretically represents most of us seems just fine with the ratcheting up of the insanity from the left.

Posted by: RM at November 16, 2018 01:33 PM (U3LtS)

396

Let them impeach him... let them impeach him every day of the week. There is no way hen is convicted in the Senate and they only reveal themselves as the petty assholes they are.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (F/KeJ)

__________

If they impeach him, does that mean I am President?

Posted by: Willard Romney at November 16, 2018 01:34 PM (xFmWK)

397 I am finely boned.
Posted by: Little Lupe at November 16, 2018 01:31 PM (vtcmf)

Here, honey. Tie this bag over your head, and you can become even more finely boned.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2018 01:34 PM (fDU8w)

398 We're gonna need to expand Gitmo, bigly !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 16, 2018 01:34 PM (tSXzq)

399 Trump should start handing out rulings and injunctions and TROs left and right.

Judge: "Hey, you can't do that! You're not a judge!"

Trump: "Yeah, well, you're not a President, so fuck you buddy."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2018 01:34 PM (BRvh1)

400 It's not. It's a due process issue per the judge.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (/tuJf)

It's not a due process issue, either. The judge is a nut. AN absolute nut.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 16, 2018 01:34 PM (KEr/t)

401 The POTUS has the authority to give or deny access to anyone he pleases. Period.
If Obama HAD thrown out Fox for prejudicial reasons, as he wanted to, he was well within his authority to do so.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (Rxduq)

Yes, and no. Think about this in other government contexts.... let's say the EPA issued you a waiver for something, then changes some rule on a whim that could put your company out of business overnight with no comment period, no notice to anyone, and no due process whatsoever.

Should you be able to get an emergency stay on the rule so that you can litigate the EPA's rule making before you go out of business? Or should the courts say, "hey, the executive branch has spoken, bro. Tough shit. You don't have any right to due process here, and you have no property interest in that waiver."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:34 PM (GBteo)

402 This decision is absolutely, completely and ridiculously insane. In. Sane.

It's hard to even begin to describe how crazy this is.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (KEr/t)

That's the America we live in. Even Trump can't fix that.

Arm yourself accordingly.

Posted by: Country Boy - out of exile at November 16, 2018 01:35 PM (Dd8PY)

403 Democrats should just go for complete victory now.

File suit against Trump's movements on Air Force One. File suit against ralleys. There will always be a judge to grant a favorable injunction, and if Trump is going to obey - why not ?

Dems won't lose a single vote because if it.

At this rate - if Trump continues to show weakness - he's not going to win in 2020. Mark my words.

This is an awful, awful move to comply with this judge.

Posted by: Stagger Lee at November 16, 2018 01:35 PM (QwmrN)

404 Words by themselves are never justification for any violence, much less homicide.

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (xFmWK)

"I have a court order demanding you turn over your guns"

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2018 01:35 PM (kOpft)

405 368
Rig the room with fx. When Jimmie starts to speak loud construction sounds occur - hammering and such.

Posted by: Jingles still calling for Wild Bill at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (Cz+xD)
The bell from Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 16, 2018 01:35 PM (37IEG)

406 why anyone still watches fox news blows my fucking mind. fair and balanced my ass. as bad as the rest, if not worse. fuck fox.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (KP5rU)

407 >>I wonder if Little Jimmy Accost-her had to sign any agreements in order to be in the press pool for the WH?

Probably not but if Trump is to be believed it sounds like he will have to in the future.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (/tuJf)

408 Ferral Judges also run the elections in FL and GA. Who knew. Thankfully, they are elected and fully accountable to the people.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (wGbBR)

409 nood feminist twats

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (LX21o)

410 Built in timer/taser in the mic. Hand it over or ride the lightning.

Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (FhXTo)

411 In my agreement that the defendant is most likely to fail, i find for the HAB consortium and against the Wright bros.

Posted by: Judge at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (L/iaS)

412 Except Trump nominated this one
Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2018 01:32 PM (O2RFr)

I wonder if this isn't just case of the judge virtue-signaling, that despite being a Trump appointee, he has retained his judicial independence?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (fDU8w)

413 390 366

"I will only be accepting questions asked in Swahili."

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:28 PM (UnA8+)

Asante sana, Mr President.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (nBr1j)
Sanders: Today is official "Klingon day" - all questions must be asked in Klingon.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 16, 2018 01:32 PM (37IEG)

Quick, get Michelle Obama over here!

Posted by: THIS is CNN at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (NgKpN)

414

The first network to air "Oww My Balls" wins.

They already show Ass. It stars Jim Acosta.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 16, 2018 01:36 PM (HaL55)

415 Can visitors be refused a White House tour?

Are there places that are off limits?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB at November 16, 2018 01:30 PM (LX21o)
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Yes and yes. If you want to go on a WH tour, you have to submit your name, address, DPOB and SSN fairly far in advance. They run a check on you.

And if you go on a tour, there are very specific areas you can visit.

Posted by: bluebell at November 16, 2018 01:37 PM (U5tDi)

416 403 Democrats should just go for complete victory now.

File suit against Trump's movements on Air Force One. File suit against ralleys. There will always be a judge to grant a favorable injunction, and if Trump is going to obey - why not ?

Dems won't lose a single vote because if it.

At this rate - if Trump continues to show weakness - he's not going to win in 2020. Mark my words.

This is an awful, awful move to comply with this judge.
Posted by: Stagger Lee at November 16, 2018 01:35 PM (QwmrN)

Shit, go for the Instant Kill.

Sue to have him removed from office.

There Will be a Judge willing to rule on "Because I Said So".

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:37 PM (UnA8+)

417 323 The WH should announce they're moving the press to the EOB. Get all of them out of the WH. When there is a press conference, they can be called back to the WH. Revoke everyone's hard pass. Fuck them all.
Posted by: Piet Mondrian at November 16, 2018 01:23 PM (Z216Q)
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THIS. But you don't have to call them back into the WH.
The president or press sec can just go to the EOB.

But they still will need passes to the EOB. That's not a fortress like the WH but it's not exactly open to the public.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2018 01:37 PM (Rxduq)

418 As a side ruling, the judge ordered the WHite House aide arrested for assault and battery for trying to take the mic away from Acosta.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 16, 2018 01:37 PM (KEr/t)

419 401 The POTUS has the authority to give or deny access to anyone he pleases. Period.
If Obama HAD thrown out Fox for prejudicial reasons, as he wanted to, he was well within his authority to do so.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2018 01:29 PM (Rxduq)

Yes, and no. Think about this in other government contexts.... let's say the EPA issued you a waiver for something, then changes some rule on a whim that could put your company out of business overnight with no comment period, no notice to anyone, and no due process whatsoever.

Should you be able to get an emergency stay on the rule so that you can litigate the EPA's rule making before you go out of business? Or should the courts say, "hey, the executive branch has spoken, bro. Tough shit. You don't have any right to due process here, and you have no property interest in that waiver."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:34 PM (GBteo)

I'm pretty sure that unless there was federal rule-making in the first place--and I'm pretty sure there is simply an ad hoc agreement between the White House and the WHCA--there is no question of due process. No rulemaking, no federal agency, and so no rule.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 01:38 PM (RD7QR)

420 418 As a side ruling, the judge ordered the WHite House aide arrested for assault and battery for trying to take the mic away from Acosta.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 16, 2018 01:37 PM (KEr/t)

The sad part is that nobody would be surprised if this had been serious.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:38 PM (UnA8+)

421 Trumps twitter account has been silent for 22hrs.

Posted by: Jingles still calling for Wild Bill at November 16, 2018 01:38 PM (Cz+xD)

422 It's unfortunate that Jim Acosta is living rent-free in PDT's head. That gives Acosta way too much cred.

Posted by: m at November 16, 2018 01:39 PM (+ZMGe)

423 Hold the pressers on the lawn. In the rain. And cold. Trump will be under a heated canopy.

Posted by: smilin jack at November 16, 2018 01:39 PM (yDxHh)

424 I'm tired of all these judges who think they are president.
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They don't think they're president.

The president actually has to answer to someone.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2018 01:39 PM (kOpft)

425 It really is long past time for the Executive to ignore the Judicial. They already call him an authoritarian, might as well be one, particularly when it's apparently authoritarian to act within the constraints of the Constitution.

FFS, it's not like the Left gives a rat's ass about it anyway. When they scream "Unconstitutional!" ask them when they started giving a fuck about it. It's like, so old and shit, right?

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 16, 2018 01:39 PM (5gT6u)

426 I'm pretty sure that unless there was federal rule-making in the first place--and I'm pretty sure there is simply an ad hoc agreement between the White House and the WHCA--there is no question of due process. No rulemaking, no federal agency, and so no rule.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 16, 2018 01:38 PM (RD7QR)

An imperfect analogy to be sure, but I have to imagine most case law on this kind of thing is more related to agency actions then something like this.

I mean, I honestly don't know what the answer is here, and haven't read the pleadings, so I don't know exactly what they were arguing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:40 PM (GBteo)

427 It's unfortunate that Jim Acosta is living rent-free in PDT's head.

I imagine that, without provocation, Trump never thinks of Acosta at all.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 16, 2018 01:40 PM (yQpMk)

428 It's not. It's a due process issue per the judge.

It's not a process issue due or otherwise. It's an @GEOTUS whim and stopping battery issue.

Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2018 01:40 PM (FhXTo)

429 Trump's response will be interesting. I suspect it will be a while before another press conference.

Posted by: Mike K at November 16, 2018 01:41 PM (s170V)

430 If White House lawyers can't win this case, how are they going to fare against Mueller's team? I am worried!

Posted by: Bob Agard at November 16, 2018 01:41 PM (lP7Xv)

431 Over at Cruise Ships Online, Jim "Cuckboy" French is waving the stained underdrawers of his Muh Principles and congratulating the judge on his ruling against Orange Man Bad.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/donald-trump-appointed-judge-rules-for-cnn-jim-acosta/

Posted by: William Quick at November 16, 2018 01:41 PM (Ewoxi)

432 Press conferences are unnecessary.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 16, 2018 01:41 PM (yQpMk)

433

The other reporters may hate Accosta but they hate Trump a whole lot more. So letting Accosta hog the limelight and be rude is not going to galvanize them to do anything towards him.
Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 01:27 PM (a0IVu)

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Not on the first day. Maybe not on the third day.

By the end of the second week, they will be willing to kill him to get "their face time on TV."

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 01:41 PM (xFmWK)

434 It really is long past time for the Executive to ignore the Judicial.
Posted by: McLurkerson at November 16, 2018 01:39 PM (5gT6u)

Obama did ... more than once.

Obama understood the difference between Law and Power.

Posted by: Stagger Lee at November 16, 2018 01:41 PM (QwmrN)

435 425 It really is long past time for the Executive to ignore the Judicial. They already call him an authoritarian, might as well be one, particularly when it's apparently authoritarian to act within the constraints of the Constitution.

FFS, it's not like the Left gives a rat's ass about it anyway. When they scream "Unconstitutional!" ask them when they started giving a fuck about it. It's like, so old and shit, right?
Posted by: McLurkerson at November 16, 2018 01:39 PM (5gT6u)

Pull a Thomas Jefferson during Marbury v Madison? "federal judges ... cannot issue a [writ of] mandamus to the President." Drop mic.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:41 PM (GBteo)

436 That would be letting Accosta control the narrative. I prefer ignoring him completely. His ego won't be able to handle that.
Posted by: IC at November 16, 2018 01:26 PM (a0IVu)

Accosta wouldn't be controlling anything, just shouting in the wind as it were. Plus his co-conspirators would become irrelevant. PlusPlus the entire media complex would be reduced to saying, "Today PDT announced on Twitter...", with them becoming irrelevant.

Their egos could not handle that.

Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2018 01:42 PM (oM0mm)

437 Posted by: McLurkerson at November 16, 2018 01:39 PM (5gT6u)

I've said it before.

If I was President I'd sign an Executive order, saying that 'as the only Court Constitutionally equal to the Executive, is the Supreme Court itself, we will only be bound BY the Supreme Court.'

It is not the within the Constitutional power of a lower Court, to stop the President's POLICIES from advancing.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:42 PM (NgKpN)

438 Move the WH press conferences to the middle of nowhere Kansas or Oklahoma.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 16, 2018 01:42 PM (xfb67)

439 There's a story at Legal Insurrection.

- It's NOT on essentially based 1st Amendment grounds, but on 5th.

- But by failing to use "due process" the First somehow becomes relevant. (I don't get that.)

- It's apparently based on a precedent that there needs to be a process for cutting them off, involving notification and shit.

- But then it does say "BIG: Judge Kelly rules Jim Acosta's first amendment rights overrules the White House's right to have orderly press conferences." and "And here it is! Kelly says plaintiffs have shown likelihood fifth amendment rights were violated, and there is irreparable harm."

None of which makes sense to me.

On the positive side: "I want to emphasize the very limited nature of this ruling," Judge Timothy J. Kelly said. "I have not determined that the First Amendment was violated here."

Question: Does our right to symbolic free speech, protected by the Constitution, cover kicking that smug POS in the balls? Just asking.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 16, 2018 01:42 PM (VaN/j)

440 Obama would gaslight the living SHIT out of everyone by giving multiple speeches and interviews where he'd say "You know I can't just do this blatantly illegal and unconstitutional thing!"

And then 24 hours later he'd do it anyway.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:43 PM (UnA8+)

441 The US Supreme Court has held that it is within the EPA's administrative prerogative to deem carbon dioxide is a pollutant. Regular citizens are regularly denied judicial review because they "lack standing." This stuff is not going to end well.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at November 16, 2018 01:44 PM (hKi6n)

442 the public destruction of Kavanaugh did not have real "due process", where an actual FBI (one not complicit) would determine the crazy woman was a political operative.

The nationally televised character assassination was designed (DeepState) with that intent ... and our propaganda media hyped the lies at every step. Even Orwell perhaps never imagined they could get this Deep, and be this successful ... or maybe he did and was not really exaggerating in "1984".

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2018 01:44 PM (Cus5s)

443 >>>"Should you be able to get an emergency stay on the rule so that you can
litigate the EPA's rule making before you go out of business? Or should
the courts say, "hey, the executive branch has spoken, bro. Tough shit.
You don't have any right to due process here, and you have no property
interest in that waiver."

The fact that CNN's business model doesn't rely upon Jim Acosta alone having access to pressers makes this a poor analogy.

Why the hell this case has any chance of winning is case #1673 of why the USA is over.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 16, 2018 01:44 PM (5gT6u)

444 And then 24 hours later he'd do it anyway.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 16, 2018 01:43 PM (UnA8+)

Obama was quite a bit smarter than many here give him credit for.

Posted by: Stagger Lee at November 16, 2018 01:44 PM (QwmrN)

445 268 Still another thought. How about going ahead, even calling on Acosta, but not getting into an argument with him: just placidly acknowledge having heard what he said, without taking a stand either way.

"It's not an invasion, it's a caravan!"

"Well, that's one way of looking at it, Jim."

[Insert another Acosta rant.]

"Interesting perspective. I'll have to consider that."

I've found that this can be a good way of taking the wind out of the sails of someone who is hot.

Eventually Acosta will run out of steam, then wind up the presser, and send everybody home without getting to ask a question. Rinse. Lather. Repeat. as necessary.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 16, 2018 01:13 PM (VP1E6)

But that gives Acosta multiple minutes of on-air speechifying preening time.

Posted by: m at November 16, 2018 01:45 PM (+ZMGe)

446 Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:42 PM (NgKpN)

That bears repeating about a million times.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 16, 2018 01:46 PM (5gT6u)

447 You can turn a mic off with the flick of a switch. Just sayin.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 16, 2018 01:46 PM (xfb67)

448 The fact that CNN's business model doesn't rely upon Jim Acosta alone having access to pressers makes this a poor analogy.

Why the hell this case has any chance of winning is case #1673 of why the USA is over.
Posted by: McLurkerson at November 16, 2018 01:44 PM (5gT6u)

Oh, I think it was Jim Acosta, the individual, who was going to be irreparably harmed, not CNN, the organization.

But either way, I was using an analogy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:46 PM (GBteo)

449 Query: do gun-owner's have a due process property interest to keep and bear arms justifying the issuance of restraining orders against executive and administrative agencies who seek to limit those interests/rights?

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at November 16, 2018 01:46 PM (hKi6n)

450 Here is where I think the judge pulled this out of his fifth point of contact,

"The lawyers for the White House could not say how the decision to revoke Jim Acosta's pass was made."

Posted by: rd

That would be fourth point of contact. Fifth point of contact is push-up muscle.

Posted by: Oedipus at November 16, 2018 01:47 PM (CXLVd)

451 >>>Obama was quite a bit smarter than many here give him credit for.

Nah, when you have a press that covers for you like he did, you can get away with all kinds of stupid shit.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 16, 2018 01:47 PM (5gT6u)

452 Second look at polonium umbrellas?

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 16, 2018 01:47 PM (p0nVR)

453 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:46 PM (GBteo)

So, by said logic, everyone ever fired, can sue, because being fired gives 'harm'?

As can everyone not invited to an event?

Hmmm... so President Trump should now sue the Judge, because this ruling 'harms' the Power of the Presidency to control his own Freedom of Association?

Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:49 PM (NgKpN)

454 Why is Trump keeping Kellyanne on the payroll ? Shes def not that important. Anyone who has loyalties to someone who hates you, dump, yesterday !!

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2018 01:50 PM (L/iaS)

455 Well there is still a court battle to be had. So OK Acosta is back in. If I were the Prez I would simply ignore him and not take questions from him. After all there are always reporters there who never get a chance to answer a question.

Posted by: Predator Intl at November 16, 2018 01:54 PM (BIrbE)

456 So, by said logic, everyone ever fired, can sue, because being fired gives 'harm'?

As can everyone not invited to an event?

Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:49 PM (NgKpN)

If you have a 5A life, liberty, or property interest, yes, and if the actor is the fed gov.

I'd have to look it up, but I forget if federal jobs qualify.

But, again, probably not a ton of case law, since no one can ever accuse the federal government of not giving enough due process to their unionized employees before firing them.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:55 PM (GBteo)

457 Posted by: Don Q. at November 16, 2018 01:49 PM (NgKpN)

Don - think - you're trying to explain why a judge overstepped his bounds ... to a lawyer.

Ever seen an Insurance Agent tell you to buy less insurance ? A car salesman tell you to skip the undercoat ? A sports ref admit that the ump is blind ?

Me neither.

Posted by: Stagger Lee at November 16, 2018 01:55 PM (QwmrN)

458 When does Donnie Two Scoops unleash his inner Andrew Jackson: "The judge has made his unconstitutional decision; now let him enforce it."

Posted by: butch at November 16, 2018 01:55 PM (0APJ3)

459 451 >>>Obama was quite a bit smarter than many here give him credit for.

Nope. He was glib, a remarkably good liar (per Roger Aales), and had political skills -- and total ass-covering by the press.

Remember "corpse-man", twice in the same speech? Harvard educated and said that?

Posted by: smilin jack at November 16, 2018 01:57 PM (yDxHh)

460 Take on the WHCA. They back him and his rude, terrible behavior.

Posted by: smilin jack at November 16, 2018 02:00 PM (yDxHh)

461 http://bit.ly/2OPRaSW
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Judge Orders Trump, Acosta To Wear Their Get-Along Shirt | The Babylon Bee

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentally Ill Girlffriend at November 16, 2018 02:01 PM (BqBId)

462 Timothy C. Holmseth @THolmseth
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@realDonaldTrump I HAVE DIRECT SPECIFIC IMMEDIATE INFORMATION ABOUT THE VERY BALLOTS IN THE 2018 ELECTION IN BROWARD COUNTY FLORIDA.

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentally Ill Girlffriend at November 16, 2018 02:03 PM (BqBId)

463 Nope. He was glib, a remarkably good liar (per Roger Aales), and had political skills -- and total ass-covering by the press.

Posted by: smilin jack at November 16, 2018 01:57 PM (yDxHh)

Yet - he understood that the Law doesn't matter when you have the Power - and the will to use it.

Posted by: Stagger Lee at November 16, 2018 02:03 PM (QwmrN)

464 Yes, and no. Think about this in other government contexts.... let's say the EPA issued you a waiver for something, then changes some rule on a whim that could put your company out of business overnight with no comment period, no notice to anyone, and no due process whatsoever.

Should you be able to get an emergency stay on the rule so that you can litigate the EPA's rule making before you go out of business? Or should the courts say, "hey, the executive branch has spoken, bro. Tough shit. You don't have any right to due process here, and you have no property interest in that waiver."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:34 PM (GBteo)

You are comparing the possible violation of a law and depriving someone of property without due process, with rescinding a courtesy?

Why do think such things are remotely comparable?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 16, 2018 02:03 PM (/qEW2)

465 If you have a 5A life, liberty, or property interest, yes, and if the actor is the fed gov.

I'd have to look it up, but I forget if federal jobs qualify.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 16, 2018 01:55 PM (GBteo)

Why do you think Acosta has a liberty or property interest?

His liberty is being curtailed because he was unruly. But if a criminal trying to rob a government office were stopped, his liberty would also be curtailed.

You are being equivocal about your use of the word liberty.

And what sort of "property" interest does Acosta have? His pass is a physical expression of a courtesy extended to him, but to say that that is "property" is to conflate the physical expression with the courtesy itself. It's like saying a piece of writing *is* the thought expressed, which is nonsense. It's black marks on a page.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 16, 2018 02:10 PM (/qEW2)

466 Time for an executive order moving briefings to the Executive Office Building and cancelling all access passes to the White House not in the hands of individuals employed by the government or working at the White House in a personal capacity for the President, Vice President and their families.

In addition, press briefings will be suspended until a new system is in place for the issuance of press passes for such briefings.

Posted by: Dusty at November 16, 2018 02:13 PM (NgvOp)

467 HOLY FUCK. This is BATSHIT insane. Trump absolutely has to take this as far as he has to. No fucking way can a court other than SCOTUS - and a bit on that in a sec - tell the president who he can and cannot allow into the White House. Fucking unbelievable.

I mean, shit, your employer can fire you for any reason whatsoever. And the court will absolutely stand behind, say, CNN, if they decided to fire Acosta over something like this. But denying him a pass to teh White House ? Beyond the pale.

Now, Trump has to push this as far as he has to, and we truly are living in a lawless wasteland if this gets to SCOTUS and either they refuse to hear it, or worse yet, uphold this idiocy. If that happens, I say no holds barred. The gloves come off. If we cannot even live in a world where the CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF THE UNITED STATES cannot even decide if a reporter gets a pass to the White House, we're all fucked.

Be interesting to see the court enforce this. No pass given, nobody without a pass gets in. Come on down to the White House and enforce your dumbass judgement.

Posted by: deadrody at November 16, 2018 02:15 PM (jsGbO)

468 225 Just another simple reminder that the united States has joined the third world in having a completely lawless dysfunctional "government".

Act accordingly
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
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THIS!!!

Posted by: Roozter at November 16, 2018 02:21 PM (lEynA)

469 ace, how would you rule, if you knew that ruling in favor of President Trump would guarantee your family be attacked at every opportunity by antifa goons with local law enforcement ready to defend them, not you?

Posted by: SDN at November 16, 2018 02:25 PM (K9d/B)

470 Do like Obama and don't hold any press conferences. OR don't let Acosta into them OR don't call on Acosta.

The best one is to have 2 secret service agents standing by Acosta. Sure the Press will make fun and get all hissy but then they're gonna do that anyway. This is what happens when no one cares about what the press says.

I believe the TRO just returns the press pass which only allows Acosta to enter the WH without an escort.

Someone might check that. I can't find an actual copy of it on the googs.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 16, 2018 02:26 PM (ukGwT)

471 Alex Salvi @alexsalvinews
2m
#BREAKING on @OANN In it's final days in power, the Republican-led House Judiciary Committee plans to issue subpoenas to former FBI Director James Comey and President Obama's attorney general, Loretta Lynch, on November 29th and December 5th. #OANN

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentally Ill Girlffriend at November 16, 2018 02:27 PM (BqBId)

472 He should have claimed executive privilege and ignored the judge.

Posted by: Walknot at November 16, 2018 02:34 PM (Q7JJV)

473 Acosta sitting in the back of the room not allowed to ask questions will also do irreparable harm ... so he must be allowed to dominate the mic and make his hateful rants (even as that does irreparable harm to all other reporters in the room ... but they don't matter)

What of the irreparable harm to Trump/America from 2+ years of the fake Trump/Russia investigation/leaks/narrative from the lies of the DNC/FBI and media paid for by Hillary/Soros/Perkins/Fusion/FiveEyes operatives? Any efforts to restrain the coup are squelched because the radical courts might determine "Obstruction of Injustice".

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2018 02:34 PM (Cus5s)

474 Words by themselves are never justification for any violence, much less homicide.

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2018 01:17 PM (xFmWK)

"I have a court order demanding you turn over your guns"

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2018 01:35 PM (kOpft)

Some dude in Maryland was shot dead this week for resisting an ex parte order like that.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2018 02:43 PM (F/KeJ)

475 I look forward to seeing reporters yell questions at judges in court rooms now. Goose, gander, sauce...

Posted by: Jack Traven at November 16, 2018 02:43 PM (E+Ip7)

476 " I look forward to seeing reporters yell questions at judges in court rooms now. Goose, gander, sauce..."

x1000!

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 16, 2018 02:46 PM (SqopC)

477 But the judge said those "belated efforts were hardly sufficient to satisfy due process."

'Due process' for what?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 16, 2018 02:49 PM (o7l6R)

478 The judge should be removed from the bench, what's next forcing ISIS members into the press corps. I am sick of these judges, Acosta physically man handled an employee and Trump had every legal right to ban him. I hope they appeal or ignore the judges ruling all together.

Posted by: Rose at November 16, 2018 03:03 PM (ovQSQ)

479 Walk out give the briefing and don't take questions just walk away. Leave the press just sitting there, do this until they realize that they are being punished for Acostas behavior. Also, make sure Acosta's seat is in the very back in the far corner. Make a point without saying a word.

Posted by: poohrat at November 16, 2018 03:05 PM (fJmj8)

480 "Judge Timothy Kelly has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

Posted by: ZEROFucksgiven at November 16, 2018 03:06 PM (DBvJ7)

481 simple.

end the press conferences.

CNN can submit questions by Twatter.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 16, 2018 04:13 PM (UsCnO)

482 Another idiot actvists liberal judge who should,nt be allowed to judge a PET SHOW

Posted by: Tamaa Bird 1000 Voices at November 16, 2018 04:27 PM (wGqjj)

483 Ace has said the split is coming.There will be a reckoning when it occurs,yet the button pushing keeps intensifying.

Posted by: YTown Guy at November 16, 2018 05:04 PM (b0UWr)

484 Due process applies to the application of the law. This isn't a law so it doesn't apply. Unless the judge wants to tell us all how due process applies to sharing a sidewalk, or getting in line at the deli.

Posted by: Socratease at November 16, 2018 05:58 PM (2GbWn)

485 I've been amazed by this since day one, since EVERY building access card I've EVER had, had on it or on the paperwork required to get it something like
"This card is the sole property of (DoD, JimBob Executive Services, Major Contractor Co), and must be surrendered immediately upon notification."If WH "hard pass" press passes do NOT have that language on them, then the SS are a bunch of friggin' idiots!

Posted by: GWB at November 16, 2018 07:15 PM (4nMNV)

486 Trump should have told the judge to issue Acosta a pass and escort him into the next press event.

Time to put these dictators in their place.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at November 16, 2018 08:45 PM (Pr11x)

487 To clarify the "Trump Apointee" aspect that the media is GLEEFULLY pushing:
When Trump accelerated his pace to appoint judges at all levels, he has to "horse trade" for the lower-level (sub-circuit-level) judges to get his desired judges in place. So this judge was probably the result of such a horsetrade, where Trump got two of his desired judges and the Left got this idiot in place. Incidentally, all presidents have had to do this, and it's usually a 2 to 1 deal, sometimes 3-1 or 4-2, but rarely worse than a 2:1 trade.

At the federal circuit level, and of course SCOTUS level, there is no horsetrading. It STILL sucks, but if this didn't happen then the judges wouldn't be approved and the dockets would remain open. The only way to overcome this fiasco, of course, is to have a huge senate majority, which ain't gonna happen soon.

Posted by: Jimmy Durante at November 17, 2018 10:34 AM (CkNGY)

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