Gun Thread: I Heart This Rifle - [Weasel]

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E. Fudd and his Favorite Wabbit Wifle


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1999 Springfield Armory, Inc. M1A 'Loaded' Model


I have to admit I think this may be my favorite rifle. I just like everything about it. It's well balanced, fun to shoot, fun to look at, sort of fun to clean (not really), and makes it seem like I know what I'm doing on a rifle range. Pointy end downrange, right?

The M1A is the semi-automatic civilian version of the M14. Chambered in .308 Winchester or 7.62x51mm NATO, the fully automatic M14 was introduced as a replacement for the M1 Garand beginning in 1959, and served as the U.S. battle rifle until the arrival of the M16 around 1964. The M14 continues to be used by specialized units to this day.

In 1974, Springfield Armory, Inc., a private corporation headquartered in Genesco, IL., began production of the M1A. Offering several different models with an array of features; the M1A remains popular with competitive shooters, marksmen, hunters and sportsmen alike. The M1A 'Loaded' model pictured above includes as standard a number of match grade components including a National Match barrel, NM front and rear sights and two stage military trigger. Although not standard on the Loaded model, this particular rifle has a custom bedding job and was very clearly someone's well cared for match rifle. Although I haven't done any scientific measuring, with decent ammo off a bench I think this is probably very close to a 1.5 MOA rifle. Did I mention it was fun to shoot?

So do you have a favorite rifle, and if so, why? There are a lot of good reasons, I suppose; favorite caliber, smells good, pleasant hunting or range memory - any number of things. Which rifle would you never consider selling?


Reloading Bench
While very small physical and pressure differences do exist, .308 Winchester and 7.62x51mm NATO ammunition are interchangeable, with the .308 Win developing slightly higher pressure. Over the years, the military has produced M80 Ball, M118 Match and M852 NATO Match ammunition to varying degrees of accuracy. Unfortunately, military loads are often driven by the economics of component cost and availability, with absolute accuracy sometimes becoming a secondary consideration. Whether you're shooting surplus, commercial or handloaded ammunition, to start out look for a bullet weight in the 168 - 175gr range, and a muzzle velocity around 2600 fps. The 168s will perform well inside about 700 yards while the 175s are effective beyond 1000 yds. If you're considerng a custom rifle, most long range .308 competitors are using bullet weights of 200gr and above with very high ballistic coefficients. Bullets weighing less than 168gr are effective at reduced distances.


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Federal Gold Medal Match Ammo - 168 and 175gr SMK

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Link-O-Rama
Article: .308 vs 7.62x51mm
Article: M80 Ammo Comparison Test
Article: M118 Ammo History
Article: M1A Loaded Model


***This Old Gun***

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Finally, Common Sense Cup Control


This week's Old Gun is neither old nor a gun. It's more of an accessory. Actually it is an accessory. And just in time for the holidays!! I suspect the unsigned note and photo is from a tactical bitter clinger who didn't appreciate my derisive comments regarding AR-15 attachments a few weeks ago. This, however, is quite useful and should be on everyone's wish list!

The Tactical Bitter Clinger writes:

I have attached pictures of my AR-15 tacticool quick-detach cup holder. It is mounted on my first AR-15 build a CA-compliant rifle for my daughter who lives there. I am torn between naming it Moonflower (because California) and Diana (it is Cerakoted burnt bronze, similar color as Wonder Woman's armor).

Thanks Tactical Bitter Clinger! I'm a convert to the world of AR-15 accessories!!

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Please note the new and improved gmail account MoronGunThread for sending in stories and pictures. Thanks for your patience and please let me know if you have any more trouble (with the email). Again, that's morongunthread at gmail dot com. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:02 PM




Comments

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1 I would never consider selling my Garands.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 04, 2018 07:01 PM (WEBkv)

2 What just happened to the margins? Hope I didn't do that.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 04, 2018 07:02 PM (WEBkv)

3 rd.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 04, 2018 07:02 PM (WEBkv)

4 rth.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 04, 2018 07:03 PM (WEBkv)

5 Finally!
I'm setting up the reloading gear now.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 07:03 PM (UsCnO)

6 Okay, enough playing with myself.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 04, 2018 07:03 PM (WEBkv)

7 308 is an excellent battle round. Set it on a 200yard zero and you have minute of man from 0-450 yards.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:03 PM (yQpMk)

8 Cupholders. Yeah.

Posted by: Emmie at November 04, 2018 07:03 PM (4HMW8)

9 Damn, I don't think I've ever seen a post start out with blown margins before.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 04, 2018 07:04 PM (NWiLs)

10 Muy girthioso.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 07:04 PM (mS+Df)

11 bang bang boom

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 07:04 PM (GBteo)

12 How many rounds does Elmer Fudd's rifle hold? It can fire throughout an entire cartoon without needing to be reloaded.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:04 PM (F0Iqf)

13 Bass pro has the wood stock M1A1 on sale this week for $1,400.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 04, 2018 07:04 PM (JUOKG)

14 margins. top picture is too big I think

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 07:04 PM (GBteo)

15 7 308 is an excellent battle round. Set it on a 200yard zero and you have minute of man from 0-450 yards.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:03 PM (yQpMk)

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A lot of rounds are like this.

30-06 and .243 come to mind. Only because I know the ballistics a bit.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 04, 2018 07:04 PM (WEBkv)

16 Ok.. who blew the margins?

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 04, 2018 07:06 PM (dUJdY)

17 How long before we can go OT and turn this into a thread on show tunes?

Posted by: Shep! at November 04, 2018 07:06 PM (oVJmc)

18 Only Fifteen comments in four minutes? It's like I hardly know you guys!

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:07 PM (F0Iqf)

19 Your "picture" is too big, Weasel, IYKWIM. Probably the top one.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2018 07:07 PM (Evws/)

20 A lot of rounds are like this.

30-06 and .243 come to mind.



That makes sense for 30-06 since the 7.62Nato was intended to near enough replicate the 30-06 ballistics.

I don't have any experience with .243 but I have a nephew that takes deer with it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:08 PM (yQpMk)

21 OK. That was an alertness test. You passed.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:08 PM (MVjcR)

22 I guess we're lucky that Weasel's favorite rifle isn't even wider.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at November 04, 2018 07:08 PM (J+w7h)

23 Thanks for the BJ, Weasel. I didn't think you could do that with a photo, but here I am.

Posted by: The Margins at November 04, 2018 07:08 PM (F0Iqf)

24
16 Ok.. who blew the margins?

Jewells45 at November 04, 2018 07:06 PM (dUJdY)

......


Not me! No not me!

Well maybe earlier today. FNG

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:08 PM (DMcz+)

25 Dad got a SA M1A years back and on the first range trip, got a case-head sep that required a gunsmith to remove the casing from the chamber. Second time out, the receiver wedged itself shut and couldn't be cycled.

I REALLY want to love that rifle, but I am very hesitant. Did they have a bad run a few years ago or was it just a one-off? FWIW I have never heard of any other issues with it. It was with bog-standard ammo too, I don't remember exactly what but nothing exotic or old or overpowered.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 07:08 PM (mS+Df)

26 The rifles I will never sell are the ones that my father owned (Winchesters, .22 and .30/30) and the one I don't own yet.

A left-handed Weatherby that I saw at Cabela's ten years ago. Some day.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (fuK7c)

27 Sure, ensmallen the pic *now* so it looks like I was complaining about nothing.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (Evws/)

28 That's a loooooooong M-1.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (oVJmc)

29 Whole thread just did a dance

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (T4oHT)

30 69 Minutes doing a hit piece on ARs as soon as the football game is over.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (BXMxN)

31 LOL 69 Minutes is the porn parody version

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (BXMxN)

32 All of my rifles I would consider selling since so many new and better rifles are available now.

I have no love for the AR-15, so those can go. The various Remington 700s with bull barrels chambered in anything starting with a '3', there are better rifles now. The AR-10T... yep, too heavy and fires the outdated 7.62. Even better bullpups than the Tavor X95. (e.g. Desertech MDR). Even the SOCOM II dressed up as a Juggernaught bullpup.

I love new technology and better calibers.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (lD3vL)

33 Pic. Be still my beating heart.

It's like seeing a picture of one of my old girlfriends, with whom I was smitten. A very sweet sort of stab in the heart sensation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2018 07:11 PM (fZcn6)

34 I am pretty sure my AR 15s and ammo are somewhere I can find them. Been a love fest since boot with the 16s.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:11 PM (DMcz+)

35 ( sidles up to thread... peeks in... yep, all good... slides off).

Posted by: kraken at November 04, 2018 07:12 PM (ffWPP)

36 Did try to send in my musket picture a few weeks ago, maybe not a good idea, the margins would be blown twice as wide.

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2018 07:13 PM (T4oHT)

37 Really - margins look fine to me. Not sure what 'you people' are talking about.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:13 PM (MVjcR)

38 30
69 Minutes doing a hit piece on ARs as soon as the football game is over.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (BXMxN)


*checks calendar"

Yep! Election day in two days!
Gotta scare the shit out of Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, and her sisters and college friends who moved to Seattle and Portland.

Because, it's for the children, you know.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 07:13 PM (UsCnO)

39 The M16, after adjustments for Nam early failures, is a reliable weapon for both close in and long range.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:14 PM (DMcz+)

40 Weasel I want to ask you about using the round bales as a berm.

What do think would happen if there was a 3 foot space between the bales? Would the bullet be further slowed down by having to hit the second bale and also would that add a fall to the bullet as it entered the second bale and so on?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:14 PM (tJujB)

41 36 Did try to send in my musket picture a few weeks ago, maybe not a good idea, the margins would be blown twice as wide.
Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2018 07:13 PM (T4oHT)
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Skip - please try again at the new email (below)

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:14 PM (MVjcR)

42
How many rounds does Elmer Fudd's rifle hold? It can fire throughout an entire cartoon without needing to be reloaded.
Posted by: Surfperch


Just like every revolver on every cowboy and police TV show.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2018 07:15 PM (aKsyK)

43 69 Minutes doing a hit piece on ARs as soon as the football game is over.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (BXMxN)

Don't they realize that Gun Control is the single biggest losing issue for the Dems?

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:16 PM (F0Iqf)

44 ' I would never consider selling my Garands.'

Me either. All my guns will be passed on to my boys.

I have a Marlin lever action in 35 Remington though that is the only rifle I would consider selling or trading. It's fun to cock but it's really snappy to shoot.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 07:16 PM (UdKB7)

45 I don't have a M1 but I do have a BM59. If you imagine a sexy Garand, that is what you get with the Beretta.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:16 PM (yQpMk)

46 Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:14 PM (tJujB)

........

My farm range is 400 yds downhill into the swamp as the back drop. No escapees.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:18 PM (DMcz+)

47 How many rounds does Elmer Fudd's rifle hold? It can fire throughout an entire cartoon without needing to be reloaded.
Posted by: Surfperch

Just like every revolver on every cowboy and police TV show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2018 07:15 PM (aKsyK)

Fully Semi-automatic semi-hardened Assault Revolvers!

BAN THEM NOW!

Posted by: Hysterical Gun Grabbers who've never seen a single gun before in their lives at November 04, 2018 07:18 PM (F0Iqf)

48 I have no love for the AR-15, so those can go. The various Remington 700s with bull barrels chambered in anything starting with a '3', there are better rifles now. The AR-10T... yep, too heavy and fires the outdated 7.62. Even better bullpups than the Tavor X95. (e.g. Desertech MDR). Even the SOCOM II dressed up as a Juggernaught bullpup.

I love new technology and better calibers.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy


I'll relieve all of them for you for $200 at my nearest FFL.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 07:18 PM (aPsQQ)

49 40 Weasel I want to ask you about using the round bales as a berm.

What do think would happen if there was a 3 foot space between the bales? Would the bullet be further slowed down by having to hit the second bale and also would that add a fall to the bullet as it entered the second bale and so on?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:14 PM (tJujB)
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I'm not really sure if a space would make much difference. I'm really only guessing though. I think single bales were used as backstops at the farm where I used to train, but they were all well beyond 1000yds from the firing point.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:19 PM (MVjcR)

50
I'll relieve all of them for you for $200 at my nearest FFL.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 07:18 PM (aPsQQ)

......

$250 for all.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:19 PM (DMcz+)

51 $300!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:20 PM (yQpMk)

52 Don't they realize that Gun Control is the single biggest losing issue for the Dems?
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:16 PM (F0Iqf)

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It is, yet Blotto O'Rourke and Stacy Abrams are both running for Governors of Red States on this platform.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 04, 2018 07:20 PM (I16G8)

53 I like the M1A's and 7.62's in general. I got started on them when I got a Po Po trade M1A scout in a synthetic stock in a few years back when they were trading them in for cat n rat rifles (AR's).

I like that caliber and stuck with it, adding a couple CMP special garands, a BM 59, a couple bolt action Spanish Mausers and even a Century C 308

I have a couple ARs but only got em when they were trying to outlaw them. Really don't care for them much and prefer 7.62's

Nothing new here. Didn't buy any guns this week, still waiting to hear my place in the CMP 1911 lottery.

Posted by: NYT Jurno List at November 04, 2018 07:20 PM (cCxiu)

54 $350.00

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:20 PM (DMcz+)

55 $450 and that's your final offer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 07:20 PM (aPsQQ)

56 Don't they realize that Gun Control is the single biggest losing issue for the Dems?

Hope springs eternal in the liberal heart. Besides, most leftie media is no longer about convincing the deplorables but about virtue signaling to the people who already agree with them.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at November 04, 2018 07:20 PM (J+w7h)

57 Crap, darn sock

Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 04, 2018 07:20 PM (cCxiu)

58 500.00

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:20 PM (DMcz+)

59 BH - a second bale certainly wouldn't hurt and is probably a good idea.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

60 But seriously, a story link for the Gun Thread...
https://twitter.com/jordankstein/status/
1058407543377182723

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (Evws/)

61 I'll relieve all of them for you for $200 at my nearest FFL.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 07:18 PM (aPsQQ)

......

$250 for all.
Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:19 PM (DMcz+)

I'd pay twice that if they were legal here in CA.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (F0Iqf)

62 43
Don't they realize that Gun Control is the single biggest losing issue for the Dems?
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:16 PM (F0Iqf)


Shh. Don't tell them.

Posted by: rickl at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

63 Smaug, that sounds like a really good set-up.

Since this is just a temp deal I was wondering if the spacing would make a difference.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (tJujB)

64 Evening all

Back from my final trip to Pensacola. It was fun. Nw Duty Station Camp Lejeune.

I'm beat

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (Fh8wK)

65 I don't know if I could reliably hit even a rolled hay bale at 1000yds.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (yQpMk)

66 I'd gladly sell my POS DPMS .308 RECON GII. Project gun right out of the box to make it fire. Way over-gassed, Had to put an adjustable gas block on it. Piercing primers, blown out primers, bent firing pin retainer, two ruined firing pins. Bolt was full of primer parts. New bolt, new firing pin, gas block and a better muzzle brake and it finally shoots sorta normal.
Should have spent the money on an M1A.

Posted by: DBCooper at November 04, 2018 07:22 PM (bttOm)

67 Is the 6.8 mm Remington Special Purpose Cartridge (6.8 SPC, 6.8 SPC II or 6.843mm) really going to replace 5.56 NATO?

Posted by: 30-06 afficianado at November 04, 2018 07:23 PM (AQxLS)

68 13 Bass pro has the wood stock M1A1 on sale this week for $1,400.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 04, 2018 07:04 PM (JUOKG)

Is that all? Shit, let me check my couch cushions...

Posted by: Insomniac at November 04, 2018 07:23 PM (NWiLs)

69 Don't they realize that Gun Control is the single biggest losing issue for the Dems?
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:16 PM (F0Iqf)

Shh. Don't tell them.
Posted by: rickl at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

They wouldn't believe me if I told them, thankfully.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:23 PM (F0Iqf)

70 Would never sell my 1909 Argentine Mauser. Just a beautiful piece, action is as smooth as greased glass, and the balance is perfect.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2018 07:23 PM (MF0yO)

71 63 Smaug, that sounds like a really good set-up.

Since this is just a temp deal I was wondering if the spacing would make a difference.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (tJujB)

.......

I am blessed. Closest domicile is over 2 miles.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:23 PM (DMcz+)

72 64 Evening all

Back from my final trip to Pensacola. It was fun. Nw Duty Station Camp Lejeune.

I'm beat
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (Fh8wK)

Did you make a bracelet out of teeth?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 04, 2018 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

73 we were at the local over-priced/rip off toy store (they cheat people on used gun values, telling them collector's items are junk, then sell for top dollar) when i saw a loaded SA M1A.

they wanted ~$1600 for it, IIRC.

next to it was another M1A type, in some funky "Hollywood" type camo stock.

MFG was "AR Sales South El Monte CA"

i literally groveled on the floor to get Resident Evil to buy it, earning me many disdaining looks from the yutes and their GFs, until she said "Oh get up!"

i then looked at them and said "hey, i get the rifle." as we walked off to do the transaction. yes: when it comes to firearms acquisition i AM shameless.

turns out there were only a very few made, and we paid dirt for it.

went into the *good* toy store after picking it up, and they looked at it, said "wow, what did you pay for this?"

upon being told, the response was "i hate you"


Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at November 04, 2018 07:24 PM (Dagiw)

74 Did you make a bracelet out of teeth?
Posted by: Insomniac at November 04, 2018 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

Well Crab legs from farewell dinner on the beach last night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2018 07:24 PM (Fh8wK)

75 Looking at maybe getting a JAE-100 stock for my NM M1A. Like the wood stock but want a tad more stability.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at November 04, 2018 07:25 PM (l7Kbv)

76 Is the 6.8 mm Remington Special Purpose Cartridge (6.8 SPC, 6.8 SPC II or 6.8 43mm) really going to replace 5.56 NATO?
Posted by: 30-06 afficianado


Ah, the classic gun blog headline~! Insert X and Y and you have a blog.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 07:25 PM (aPsQQ)

77 65 I don't know if I could reliably hit even a rolled hay bale at 1000yds.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:21 PM (yQpMk)
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Sure you could! The X ring on a standard long range F Class targets is 5".

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:25 PM (MVjcR)

78 I was bad this weekend at Grice's in Clearfield, Penna.

https://tinyurl.com/y9d6o78o

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 04, 2018 07:25 PM (FTlwv)

79 If I can only have one ...

... the M1A Standard, syn stock, Vortex 3x9 (Diamondback), co-witness mount. And a stack of checkmate mags.

Posted by: The Midnight Rider at November 04, 2018 07:25 PM (1hhNr)

80 Weasel, I don't think anything got thru the 5 bale set up that we have used but I was just curious as to what would happen if a bullet had to penetrate two or three surfaces.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:26 PM (tJujB)

81 GPOTUSE on another rally. Gawd, that man is infatigueable.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:26 PM (DMcz+)

82 38' of drop at 1000yards with the 308. I don't know if I can even raise the peep sight up that much. I think it only goes up to 800meters.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

83 74 Did you make a bracelet out of teeth?
Posted by: Insomniac at November 04, 2018 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

Well Crab legs from farewell dinner on the beach last night
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2018 07:24 PM (Fh8wK)

Lucky bastich. Plenty of farewell dinners have been held for me, but I was never invited to any of them.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 04, 2018 07:26 PM (NWiLs)

84 I would like to try my hand at 600 though. My longest local range is only 300.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:28 PM (yQpMk)

85 Lucky bastich. Plenty of farewell dinners have been held for me, but I was never invited to any of them.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 04, 2018 07:26 PM (NWiLs)

Well I was never invited to one I really wanted to go to?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 04, 2018 07:28 PM (Fh8wK)

86 81 GPOTUSE on another rally. Gawd, that man is infatigueable.
Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:26 PM (DMcz+)

It's almost as if Trump doesn't have AIDS, nor Kuru, and Spirit Cooking is a lie.

Posted by: literally serious at November 04, 2018 07:29 PM (8SG/h)

87 Trump has the energy of twenty men! Twenty men who buttfuxk cats!!

Posted by: Gethin Jenkins at November 04, 2018 07:30 PM (Cz4vd)

88 38' of drop at 1000yards with the 308. I don't know if I can even raise the peep sight up that much. I think it only goes up to 800meters.
Posted by: Grump928(C)


" ?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 07:30 PM (aPsQQ)

89 80 Weasel, I don't think anything got thru the 5 bale set up that we have used but I was just curious as to what would happen if a bullet had to penetrate two or three surfaces.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:26 PM (tJujB)
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I'm just really not sure. I'm think all the hay will destabilize the bullet, but I'm not sure if multiple surfaces make a big difference.
Anyone else have an idea?

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

90 84 I would like to try my hand at 600 though. My longest local range is only 300.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:28 PM (yQpMk)
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Where are you located Grump? Anywhere on the east coast?

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:31 PM (MVjcR)

91 Where are you located Grump? Anywhere on the east coast?


Gulf Coast. Across the bay from Mobile in Baldwin County.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk)

92 82 38' of drop at 1000yards with the 308. I don't know if I can even raise the peep sight up that much. I think it only goes up to 800meters.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

.....

Ilum rounds in a .50 eliminate need for sights. Walk it it in.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:32 PM (DMcz+)

93 Anybody else hear about this story?

Pete Davidson slammed for Saturday Night Live joke about a wounded veteran running for Congress (link to TVGuide.com)

https://tinyurl.com/ybwez9at

I'm not outrageously outraged... Davidson did some jokes about himself too... but I'm glad he's getting called out about this.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:34 PM (miE9U)

94 Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk)
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My mom is in Milton. If you ever make it to the mid-Atlantic then look me up and we'll go shooting.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:34 PM (MVjcR)

95 I'm just really not sure. I'm think all the hay will destabilize the bullet, but I'm not sure if multiple surfaces make a big difference.
Anyone else have an idea?
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

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I would not be sure either. Which is why I use a down hill into the swamp range.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:34 PM (DMcz+)

96 I think I heard a gunshot in the distance.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (F0Iqf)

97 I would never consider selling my Garands.


Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 04, 2018 07:01 PM

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I sold mine after my accident where I destroyed my shoulder and had to have the Doctor rebuild it with 30 screws. TSA loves me............


He specifically told me no more high powered rifles or shotguns on my right shoulder and I can't hit the side of a barn shooting left handed so I sold most everything except the low recoil stuff.


Anything with more recoil than a .223, 30 carbine or a 9mm causes me pain now.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (JUOKG)

98 GPOTUSE jokes about heart attack. En fuego!

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (DMcz+)

99 The M16, after adjustments for Nam early failures, is a reliable weapon for both close in and long range.

Whaaa ...? Long range? No way. Our guys are getting peppered in Stan and Iraq cause a 7.6254mmR will *accurately* reach 1000 yds. It's a standard deployment. To get that range outta M4 you've got to tilt it up mortar style, and then it's sub-lethal as well as subsonic. (slight exaggeration alert!)

The platform's OK, especially as it's so common and lots of folks are used to it. But there are much, much better munitions.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (EZCPr)

100 I think I heard a gunshot in the distance.
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (F0Iqf)


Just a car backfiring. Go back to sleep.

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at November 04, 2018 07:36 PM (miE9U)

101 My mom is in Milton.


I know it well. I have an Aunt in Baghdad.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:36 PM (yQpMk)

102 'Gawd, that man is infatigueable.

My feet and legs are sore just from standing around waiting for him all day. I came home and sat down exhausted and meanwhile PDT is doing another rally. There must be two of him.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 07:36 PM (UdKB7)

103

Anything with more recoil than a .223, 30 carbine or a 9mm causes me pain now.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (JUOKG)
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You might take a look at the 260 Remington. It's a .308 cartridge necked down to 6.5mm. Great round and popular with hunters in Europe, or so I hear.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (MVjcR)

104 96 I think I heard a gunshot in the distance.
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (F0Iqf)


I'm getting used to it now.

Posted by: David Byrne at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (sdi6R)

105 Me loves me my Garand M1 and I'd never willingly part with it. It shoots well, has a great feel and smell, reminds me of my past Dad, Uncles and Grampa and, of course, the *ping*.

I did sell my Springfield Trapdoor model 1873 (carbine) long ago before the canoe accident. It had a very desirable SN that put it in the Custer range although no provenance to honestly say it was ever issued to the 7th Cav Reg. Or ever issued for that matter.

I was showing it at a gun show and another seller asked if it was for sale. I told him stupid money would take it. He offered stupid money ++. I threw it at him before he could change his mind. No regrets.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (9rIkM)

106 Where is Weasel Acres located? Girl928 is in WV, and Father928 is in Greenwood SC, so I cover that route at least once a year.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (yQpMk)

107 I'm not outrageously outraged... Davidson did some jokes about himself too... but I'm glad he's getting called out about this.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:34 PM (miE9U)

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Hey Steve, I wanted to apologize for being a jerk to you about posting Quora stuff the other night. I had a particularly bad day that day, but that is no excuse for my behavior. I'm sorry.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (I16G8)

108 I boofoo dogs. Like Stormy Daniels! Hey-O!!

Posted by: Mirror Universe Donald Trump at November 04, 2018 07:38 PM (IH2A1)

109 I love new technology and better calibers.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 04, 2018 07:09 PM (lD3vL)

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I win the bid at 500 per. Send all your AR15s to me.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:38 PM (DMcz+)

110 Don't they realize that Gun Control is the single biggest losing issue for the Dems?

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:16 PM (F0Iqf)


Short answer: no.

Understand the entire methodology of the Left. They do not accept your views as valid if they disagree. Instead of listening to our opinions, they tell you where you are wrong, and what you will think instead.

Compare today's Left with the Liberals of a generation ago. Liberals would disagree with you, but still support a conversation about issues. With the Left, you and I are either Lemmings who follow what they say without question, or we are evil and must be silenced. There is no middle ground with them.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 07:39 PM (UsCnO)

111
Is the 6.8 mm Remington Special Purpose Cartridge (6.8 SPC, 6.8 SPC II or 6.8x43mm) really going to replace 5.56 NATO?


Posted by: 30-06 afficianado at November 04, 2018 07:23 PM

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That's what I read earlier. They are going to do the battle rifle first and then the Squad Automatic Weapons second. Six platforms are going to be tested for the rifle.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 04, 2018 07:39 PM (JUOKG)

112 As long as Armalite, that is.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:40 PM (DMcz+)

113 Black gun racist. Orange man bad.

Posted by: Anti-Gun NPC at November 04, 2018 07:40 PM (F0Iqf)

114 Anything with more recoil than a .223, 30 carbine or a 9mm causes me pain now.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (JUOKG)


Excuse me ... would you have a moment to let me tell you about the everlasting salvation of the Ruger PC Carbine ?

Posted by: The Midnight Rider at November 04, 2018 07:40 PM (1hhNr)

115
106 Where is Weasel Acres located? Girl928 is in WV, and Father928 is in Greenwood SC, so I cover that route at least once a year.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (yQpMk)
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Appomattox, VA. NE of Lynchburg about 30 minutes.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

116
Is the 6.8 mm Remington Special Purpose Cartridge (6.8 SPC, 6.8 SPC II or 6.8x43mm) really going to replace 5.56 NATO?
Posted by: 30-06 afficianado at November 04, 2018 07:23 PM (AQxLS)


there has been a call for a conversion to 270 since the 1930's. I am not sure why, but the Garand, and the FN-FAL and a British rifle were supposed to be brought out in that caliber. Ya know, before WWII loomed.

MacArthur nixed the conversion for the Garand, the others I am not sure of.

The 6.5 Creedmore is supposed to be a lovely cartridge with both long range accuracy and low kick that fits in an AR platform.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (mUa7G)

117 93
Anybody else hear about this story?



Pete Davidson slammed for Saturday Night Live joke about a wounded veteran running for Congress (link to TVGuide.com)



https://tinyurl.com/ybwez9at



I'm not outrageously outraged... Davidson did some jokes about himself too... but I'm glad he's getting called out about this.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:34 PM (miE9U)
Davidson lost his dad on 9/11. He ridiculed someone who fought the filth who murdered his father. Major douche. Davidson would have to stand on a ladder to kiss a SEAL's ass.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (d6Ksn)

118 Weasel, will trade tractor driving, mowing and chain sawing along with cooking for lessons.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (tJujB)

119 Arizona must be a very strange place if Sinema is even competitive, much less winning.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (yQpMk)

120 Florida stats look good.

Florida 2016 Early voting stats

Dems 1,580,000

Repubs 1,425,000

Democrats out voted republicans by 155,000 or repubs down 2.1% in early voting

Trump won the state on election day.

Florida early voting 2018 as of Nov 4, 2018

988,0000 republicans

1,025,000 democrats

Democrats so far 37,000 ahead or repubs down 2.0% or down less than 2016 in early voting.

So far, that's close BUT .10% BETTER than 2016 when Patriots won Florida for our GPOTUSE.

https://tinyurl.com/htrbpew

https://tinyurl.com/y873znam

Pardon reposting.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:42 PM (DMcz+)

121 I have two rifles I will never sell. One is a Garand that came from CMP with NOS stock and barrel. It is essentially a new rifle. Wish I could shoot well enough to wring out all its accuracy. I will keep trying to be worthy.

The top, though, is a custom 50 caliber flintlock made to fit me: 42 inch swamped barrel, LOP for my height, top of the line lock, full length stock, and designed to look like it was made in 1790. It has my preferred flat butt stock and balances like a dream. It was a retirement gift from Mrs. JTB.

They are both specified in my will.

Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 07:43 PM (V+03K)

122 Posted by: Ghidorah at November 04, 2018 07:40 PM (wWPNi)
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Anything to add to the gun conversation we're having?

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:43 PM (MVjcR)

123 Calm Mentor, it's cool man. Everyone has bad days, including me. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:44 PM (miE9U)

124 Arizona must be a very strange place if Sinema is even competitive, much less winning.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (yQpMk)

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Yeah, gotta be the large number of transplants they have living there now.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 04, 2018 07:44 PM (I16G8)

125 Donna, yup.
I am NOT a fan of Ariana Grande's, but it's looking to me like she dodged a bullet not marrying this... person.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:45 PM (miE9U)

126 Appomattox

I usually go up 77 through Wytheville so you are, what, a long two hours east of that?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:45 PM (yQpMk)

127 Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 07:43 PM (V+03K)
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Very nice, JTB.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:46 PM (MVjcR)

128 The top, though, is a custom 50 caliber flintlock made to fit me: 42 inch swamped barrel, LOP for my height, top of the line lock, full length stock, and designed to look like it was made in 1790. It has my preferred flat butt stock and balances like a dream. It was a retirement gift from Mrs. JTB.
Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 07:43 PM (V+03K)


That sounds amazing. Who made it?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 07:46 PM (mS+Df)

129 Quibble with the post for safety. The 7.62 chamber, being full-auto and designed to use a variety of NATO country ammo of differing manufacture tolerances, is cut for higher tolerance. The 7.62 brass is thicker to account for this. 308 uses thinner wall brass and combined with a 7.62 chamber on the large end can be trouble. I believe all us milspec chambers are cut to .308 spec; however my beater m14SA has a 7.62 chamber that just swallows a 308 field. I only feed that one 7.62.

Posted by: Paul Gerst at November 04, 2018 07:46 PM (2hKpF)

130 I am still offline, technically, but....guns.

I am in Savannah on vacation, so no range trip this week.

BUT I did buy a new (to me) Gen 3 Glock 17. Now I can swap slides and lowers between it and my Glock 19's to my heart's content. Eat your heart out, 19x and G45. Plus it's Tennifer-coated as all Glocks should be.

Favorite rifle may be a bit surprising, it's my Kel-Tec SU-16 C. I own several (ahem) AR 15s of various sizes and calibers. But the SU-16 is the lightest and more than accurate at ranges I will be shooting. Did I mention it's lightweight? It is. It's my designated 'wife' gun, along with my M1 carbine.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 04, 2018 07:46 PM (l/FCQ)

131 Ilum rounds in a .50 eliminate need for sights. Walk it it in.

Posted by: Smaug
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Are you taking new subscribers to your newletter?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 04, 2018 07:47 PM (9rIkM)

132 Calm Mentor, it's cool man. Everyone has bad days, including me. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:44 PM (miE9U)

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Thank you.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 04, 2018 07:47 PM (I16G8)

133 127 Appomattox

I usually go up 77 through Wytheville so you are, what, a long two hours east of that?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:45 PM (yQpMk)
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Probably something like that. Offer stands, though!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:47 PM (MVjcR)

134 124 Calm Mentor, it's cool man. Everyone has bad days, including me. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:44 PM (miE9U)

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Calm Mentor is pretty fab. Much appreciate guidance today on not infuture-ating the blowing of margins.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:48 PM (DMcz+)

135 Offer stands, though!/i]


Thank you.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:48 PM (yQpMk)

136 I understand the proposed Army 6.8 is not the 6.8 SPC II. The case dimensions are different (longer?) but who knows at this point. We shall see...

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 04, 2018 07:49 PM (CeJUf)

137 I don't believe in selling guns. Buying guns, certainly. Trading guns, maybe. Giving them away, even. But never selling them.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2018 07:50 PM (zLDYs)

138 Idiots at 60 Minutes is doing a piece on how powerful an AR-15 is.

Yes..it is... but they are comparing ballistic gel tests between the AR-15 and a 9mm!

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at November 04, 2018 07:50 PM (438dO)

139 Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

Huh. My sister is in Suffolk. What's that? About 3 hours away?

Thanks for you reply, again. I'm still going over things!

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 04, 2018 07:51 PM (C1NyB)

140 I would have thought a Glock 17 or similar would be the most used weapon in mass shootings.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:51 PM (yQpMk)

141
With the Left, you and I are either Lemmings who follow what they say without question, or we are evil and must be silenced. There is no middle ground with them.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg


The long game. The Chinese 100 year plan. They wait you out and replace you with new citizens.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2018 07:52 PM (aKsyK)

142 132 Ilum rounds in a .50 eliminate need for sights. Walk it it in.

Posted by: Smaug
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Are you taking new subscribers to your newletter?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 04, 2018 07:47 PM (9rIkM)

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Yah old Nam vets taught me. Tank retrievers. They rock. I will always be in awe.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:52 PM (DMcz+)

143 The top, though, is a custom 50 caliber flintlock made to fit me: 42 inch swamped barrel, LOP for my height, top of the line lock, full length stock, and designed to look like it was made in 1790. It has my preferred flat butt stock and balances like a dream. It was a retirement gift from Mrs. JTB.

What school?

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 07:52 PM (bZ7mE)

144 Just remembered his name. Sgt. Duke. 3/139FA Cyclone Division. I know, sounds not real but he was a bad ass.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:53 PM (DMcz+)

145 104
96 I think I heard a gunshot in the distance.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (F0Iqf)



I'm getting used to it now.

Posted by: David Byrne at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (sdi6R)

I wonder how many get this brilliant pun. Good job.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 07:54 PM (UsCnO)

146 Slow night on the gun thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:54 PM (yQpMk)

147 Eromero, I'm with ya. When my brother was dying he gave me his 20gauge shot gun and a black powder rifle that he had made from a kit.
I gave them to a dear friends grandson.

I clean a gazillion doves behind that shotgun and I know this boy will hunt with it forever.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 07:54 PM (tJujB)

148 So how 'bout that Tide, huh?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:55 PM (yQpMk)

149 'I wonder how many get this brilliant pun'

This ain't no Mudd Club.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 07:55 PM (UdKB7)

150 93 Anybody else hear about this story?

Pete Davidson slammed for Saturday Night Live joke about a wounded veteran running for Congress (link to TVGuide.com)

https://tinyurl.com/ybwez9at

I'm not outrageously outraged... Davidson did some jokes about himself too... but I'm glad he's getting called out about this.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:34 PM (miE9U)

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Making fun of wounded vets...the new American pastime.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 07:56 PM (fbgDX)

151 IEDs are so hilarious.

Buttholes.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 07:56 PM (fbgDX)

152 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 07:54 PM (UsCnO)

I was going to call in that I got it, but I understand they're tapping phone lines. Even though that's not allowed. Got some peanut butter?

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 04, 2018 07:57 PM (C1NyB)

153 130 Quibble with the post for safety. The 7.62 chamber, being full-auto and designed to use a variety of NATO country ammo of differing manufacture tolerances, is cut for higher tolerance. The 7.62 brass is thicker to account for this. 308 uses thinner wall brass and combined with a 7.62 chamber on the large end can be trouble. I believe all us milspec chambers are cut to .308 spec; however my beater m14SA has a 7.62 chamber that just swallows a 308 field. I only feed that one 7.62.
Posted by: Paul Gerst at November 04, 2018 07:46 PM (2hKpF)
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Point taken, but I've personally never seen pressure signs resulting from the mix. I think as a practical matter most people are using them interchangeably, but a really, really loose chamber could cause pressure signs with a stout 308 load.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:57 PM (MVjcR)

154 SMH, yup.
I'm hoping the guy Davidson made fun of is on the show next week for a 'rebuttal' sketch.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 07:58 PM (miE9U)

155 Posted by: Paul Gerst at November 04, 2018 07:46 PM (2hKpF)
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And thanks for speaking up!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:58 PM (MVjcR)

156 Will never sell my JM Marlin 1894 cowboy spec 357/38.
Accurate as f***.
20 inch barrel in heavy/octogan balances perfectly, very handy, but maintains just enough weight forward to be very naturally steady. Negligible recoil and could drop a deer or BG quite effectively.

Was sighting in its 30-30 bigger brother today at a God-awful range in my suburban locale, run by the County. Basically wait in line like the DMV for 2-3 rounds of administration until you get the Golden Ticket to go down to the range, where they herd you into groups, wait, wait, wait for the civil servant to change the targets, then an hour of BENCH SHOOTING ONLY.

Necessary evil to be able to sight in a rifle (Skinner Express peep with a custom front that is actually a POS that I will replace with a factory fine bead). Chased groups by adjusting the rear peep windage. Since its all the way down I can't really do anything about shooting high except different ammo choices and accepting a six o'clock hold.

Sort of ultimately to get groups slightly right-hand sided within the black (4-5" circle) with 170 grain Federal (100 yards).

My favorite shooting remains offhand with the 357 carbine (yeeha!) at around 50 yards for practical accuracy. That is what I do (with everything else) at my paradise range in the Adirondacks. There, you can show up with whatever, so long as it's not alcohol on the premises, and have at it outdoors up to 200 yards, hang your own targets etc.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 04, 2018 07:59 PM (j4US8)

157 Reading along as have all day, dreaming what if.

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2018 07:59 PM (T4oHT)

158 Who's Pete Davidson?

Posted by: josephistan at November 04, 2018 07:59 PM (Izzlo)

159
Making fun of wounded vets...the new American pastime.
Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 07:56 PM (fbgDX)

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Hell has a special place for them. Pinapples and anoose. Repeatededly.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 07:59 PM (DMcz+)

160 PDT killing it again in TN. 2nd rally today. I don't know how he does it. Never skips a beat.

Posted by: Tuna at November 04, 2018 08:00 PM (jm1YL)

161 josephistan, you're better off not knowing

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 08:00 PM (miE9U)

162 159 Who's Pete Davidson?
Posted by: josephistan at November 04, 2018 07:59 PM (Izzlo)

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Some doofus who thinks getting blinded by an IED is funny.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 08:00 PM (fbgDX)

163
I think I heard a gunshot in the distance.

Annoying thugs have such persistence.
Started humming a song from nineteen sixty-two
Ain't it funny how the night moves

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2018 08:01 PM (aKsyK)

164 161 PDT killing it again in TN. 2nd rally today. I don't know how he does it. Never skips a beat.
Posted by: Tuna at November 04, 2018 08:00 PM (jm1YL)

BREAKING NEWS: Bad Orangeman kills many in Tennessee!

Posted by: This is CNN at November 04, 2018 08:01 PM (Izzlo)

165 If I still had a Twitter account, I'd troll Davidson a bit.

"Hey Pete, I hear Ariana jut got engaged to the SEAL you made fun of. Any comment?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 04, 2018 08:01 PM (miE9U)

166 MVjcR)

Huh. My sister is in Suffolk. What's that? About 3 hours away?

Thanks for you reply, again. I'm still going over things!
Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 04, 2018 07:51 PM (C1NyB)
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Probably a solid 3 hours.
My pleasure - let me know when you decide on an upper.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:01 PM (MVjcR)

167 147 Slow night on the gun thread.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:54 PM (yQpMk)

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Where are the Jarheads when ya need em.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:01 PM (DMcz+)

168 Making fun of a wounded Vet. Never in my presence. Go ahead, I'll go to jail.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 08:02 PM (tJujB)

169 I think I heard a gunshot in the distance.

.......

My niehbors have no doubts.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:03 PM (DMcz+)

170 Effing spellblech

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:03 PM (DMcz+)

171
Who's Pete Davidson?
Posted by: josephistan


The fifth Doctor Who

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2018 08:04 PM (aKsyK)

172 He offered stupid money ++. I threw it at him before he could change his mind.

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Was his name Chumlee?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2018 08:04 PM (Evws/)

173 168 147 Slow night on the gun thread.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 07:54 PM (yQpMk)
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Where are the Jarheads when ya need em.
Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:01 PM (DMcz+)
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Yeah!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:04 PM (MVjcR)

174 Need to get to the range soon. Just received three Taurus PT111 Gen 2s I sent in for warranty work (they said 12 weeks, all back in less than 4). All prob 8-12k rds through them, one a problem child sent back once previously.

A) Ejector replaced, no other issues.

B) Replaced trigger safety and trigger spring, adjusted slide. No other problems found.

C) Replaced extractor, extractor spring, rear sight, rear sight screw, trigger bar, trigger safety, ejector, firing pin, sear.

Guess the problem child, now practically a new gun.

Posted by: SacredCow at November 04, 2018 08:04 PM (uAAwg)

175 Oh, and 'ettes, check out Dan Crenshaw, the Navy SEAL GOP candidate insulted on last night's SNL. Even with one eye gone, the man is gorgeous:
https://tinyurl.com/y8r54bw4
A soyboy on SNL actually made fun of those looks? I wish to hell I could vote for him.


Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at November 04, 2018 08:05 PM (d6Ksn)

176 The weird thing is that Pete Davidson's father was NYFD who was killed on 9/11. Maybe he has some sort of psychological problem about that; I don't know.

Posted by: rickl at November 04, 2018 08:05 PM (sdi6R)

177 PDT killing it again in TN. 2nd rally today. I don't know how he does it. Never skips a beat.
Posted by: Tuna at November 04, 2018 08:00 PM (jm1YL)

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I think this is his third, as he was also in TN earlier today, and he's doing 3 tomorrow.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 04, 2018 08:05 PM (I16G8)

178 161 PDT killing it again in TN. 2nd rally today. I don't know how he does it. Never skips a beat.

Tuna at November 04, 2018 08:00 PM (jm1YL)

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GPOTUSE is amazing. Greatest President of the United States Ever!

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:05 PM (DMcz+)

179 169
Making fun of a wounded Vet. Never in my presence.

Disgust level: safety off.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:06 PM (UsCnO)

180 Loved E Fudd Open Blogger. Another great post.

Long time lurker, FNG poster.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:07 PM (DMcz+)

181 180 169
Making fun of a wounded Vet. Never in my presence.

Disgust level: safety off.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:06 PM (UsCnO)

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Right on my brother in arms.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:08 PM (DMcz+)

182 Posted by: SacredCow at November 04, 2018 08:04 PM (uAAwg)
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So are you generally pleased with their customer service? That's a quick turnaround.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:08 PM (MVjcR)

183 BTW law enforcement can dring the anti-2A as deeply as anyone. Do not trust them to disobey confiscatory laws.

At the Crap County range today a range officer (LE badged) was complaining to a bunch of young dudes asking about pistol permits about how "The New County Executive" (Democrat) no longer gives "Sportsmen's permits" (slightly less restrictive about carry away from the range) because some guys who got them "ruined it for everyone else" because they got Sportsmen's permits but didn't really hunt or hike.

Young dudes were nodding their heads: "Yeah, some guys ruin it for everyone else!"

I wanted to ask him whether some fat cop who sits behind a desk all day eating donuts and filling out forms but has a Glock strapped to his hip is also "ruining it for everyone else" but I just wanted to go shooting.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 04, 2018 08:09 PM (j4US8)

184 LeftCoast Dawg. + 1000

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 08:09 PM (tJujB)

185 181 Loved E Fudd Open Blogger. Another great post.

Long time lurker, FNG poster.
Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:07 PM (DMcz+)
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Thanks and welcome! It's my pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:11 PM (MVjcR)

186 Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (MVjcR)

How similar is the 6.5mm to the 6.5 Creedmoor?

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 08:11 PM (kiSdp)

187 So in the 60 minutes piece, why did they not use some real competition - like the aforementioned .308, a Marlin .444, a.500 nitro Express, or even Ma Deuce?

Posted by: Ex-ex at November 04, 2018 08:12 PM (js0Yg)

188 129 ... My flintlock was made by Tennessee Valley Muzzleloading. If I were ever to get a fowler, I would go to them for it. Beautiful work and I could specify all the features and measurements.

Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 08:13 PM (V+03K)

189 Got to turn light and tablet off, 4am comes up awful early.

May all your dreams end up in gunsmoke

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2018 08:13 PM (T4oHT)

190 Anything with more recoil than a .223, 30 carbine or a 9mm causes me pain now.



Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 04, 2018 07:35 PM (JUOKG)



Excuse me ... would you have a moment to let me tell you about the everlasting salvation of the Ruger PC Carbine ?


Posted by: The Midnight Rider at November 04, 2018 07:40 PM

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Got one and a suppressor on ATF hold to put on it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 04, 2018 08:13 PM (JUOKG)

191 Ex-ex, great to have you here.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 08:14 PM (tJujB)

192 187 Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:37 PM (MVjcR)

How similar is the 6.5mm to the 6.5 Creedmoor?
Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 08:11 PM (kiSdp
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Pretty similar I think. I believe the creedmoor has a higher shoulder angle

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:15 PM (MVjcR)

193 A Charleville musket I assume as you're a Yank? (Although they're 69 calibre so I'm probably wrong now that I think of it.)

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2018 08:15 PM (Evws/)

194 So i need a little coaching here.

Got my S&W .357 a couple weeks ago. Ran a couple hundred rounds of .38 through and seems to do well. Single action better than double of course.

Then I tried a few rounds of .357. Once again, single action accurate and controlled. Double action, however was a bit overwhelming.

I want to be solid and confident. How do I train more for the .357 double action other than just shooting a shitload of rounds? Any specific muscle memory drills?

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 08:16 PM (PkVlr)

195
Thanks and welcome! It's my pleasure.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:11 PM

.......

And FNG learns new identities.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:17 PM (DMcz+)

196 Appomattox, VA. NE of Lynchburg about 30 minutes.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

I drove through on the way home from a pointing dog training trip. Beautiful area. Guy from S.C. does the training. I wish that wasn't so far away.

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 08:17 PM (kiSdp)

197 Favorite rifle? Hard to say. If pushed to the wall, I'd say it is my SMLE #5 MK 1 - the Jungle Carbine, in .303. I've also got a SMLE 34 MK 1, but the JC edges it out by a hair.

Posted by: William Quick at November 04, 2018 08:17 PM (Ewoxi)

198 Service announcement:


Mexican Drug Gangs, for all of your illegal alien transportation needs when traveling through Mexico.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:19 PM (UsCnO)

199 Unfortunately I remain mostly obsessed with my Armalite weaponery so can't ever add much. Hitting a head with M16 (ar-15 civ) open sights at 400 mt seals it for me.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:19 PM (DMcz+)

200 My flintlock was made by Tennessee Valley Muzzleloading. If I were ever to get a fowler, I would go to them for it. Beautiful work and I could specify all the features and measurements.
Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 08:13 PM (V+03K)


Oh, very nice. The stocks on their sample pieces on the website are lovely. Do you have any pictures of your rifle?

http://www.tennesseevalleymuzzleloading.com/

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 08:19 PM (mS+Df)

201 Greetings:

My understanding is that the M14 came to life as an semi-automatic. There was a subsequent (???) model M14E1 (???) that had automatic fire capability (and a front pistol grip).

Never shot the E1 but the the M14(A1 ???) could reach out and touch and with a scope 600-800 meters.

Posted by: 11B40 at November 04, 2018 08:20 PM (evgyj)

202 All guns for which you have ammunition should be your favorite gin. This is known.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2018 08:20 PM (zLDYs)

203 sorry O/T...wish I saw this during the book thread, but I just noticed that author Matt Bracken's Twitter account has been suspended.

Anyone know why?

Posted by: squeakywheel at November 04, 2018 08:20 PM (ekJ3K)

204 195 So i need a little coaching here.

Got my S&W .357 a couple weeks ago. Ran a couple hundred rounds of .38 through and seems to do well. Single action better than double of course.

Then I tried a few rounds of .357. Once again, single action accurate and controlled. Double action, however was a bit overwhelming.

I want to be solid and confident. How do I train more for the .357 double action other than just shooting a shitload of rounds? Any specific muscle memory drills?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 08:16 PM (PkVlr)
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Is that ever a great question! There is a lot more going on in DA, and the tendency is to anticipate the shot. I know that I still find myself doing it sometimes. Lots and lots of shooting is one answer, but I will tell you that I mentally rehearse the shot first and COMMAND myself not to anticipate the shot which seems to help me a little.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:21 PM (MVjcR)

205 So in the 60 minutes piece, why did they not use some real competition - like the aforementioned .308, a Marlin .444, a.500 nitro Express, or even Ma Deuce?
Posted by: Ex-ex


If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 08:21 PM (aPsQQ)

206 Oh, and 'ettes, check out Dan Crenshaw, the Navy SEAL GOP candidate insulted on last night's SNL. Even with one eye gone, the man is gorgeous:
https://tinyurl.com/y8r54bw4
A soyboy on SNL actually made fun of those looks? I wish to hell I could vote for him.




Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at November 04, 2018 08:05 PM (d6Ksn)
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He's not in my district, but he's in a friend of mines district in the Houston area and I really like him. Helped her with researching the candidates for the primaries and picked him.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 04, 2018 08:21 PM (hECVl)

207 144 ... Grey Fox, TVM calls it the Late Lancaster. Like their other models, it doesn't match an existing rifle but is meant to suggest a certain period and general style. I considered an earlier style model but the elegant lines of the Pennsylvania from circa 1790 really appealed.

Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 08:22 PM (V+03K)

208 176: Donna with the ampersands, yes he is very handsome. That troll who made fun of him should be ass kicked, preferably with my stilletos.

Posted by: IC at November 04, 2018 08:22 PM (4lu7W)

209 203 All guns for which you have ammunition should be your favorite gin. This is known.
Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2018 08:20 PM (zLDYs)

.........

Shit gin could be the problem with my sights. Reconfigurating.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:22 PM (DMcz+)

210 "So are you generally pleased with their customer service? That's a quick turnaround."

Very quick and very pleased. I figured it would be next year before I received them. Now, to see if the repairs corrected the issues I had with them. That is the true test. But the service was great.

Posted by: SacredCow at November 04, 2018 08:22 PM (uAAwg)

211 So Stacy Abrams said (cried somewhere on Breitbart) that if she wins people will have to turn in some weapons. She can try that, but I know sheriffs in south Georgia that won't allow that to happen.

Other than that, the state has no idea who owns what. It is against state law that any state, county or local municipal entity register weapons.

Posted by: Ex-ex at November 04, 2018 08:22 PM (js0Yg)

212 198 Favorite rifle? Hard to say. If pushed to the wall, I'd say it is my SMLE #5 MK 1 - the Jungle Carbine, in .303. I've also got a SMLE 34 MK 1, but the JC edges it out by a hair.
Posted by: William Quick at November 04, 2018 08:17 PM (Ewoxi)
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I live the .303 British. Great round. I have a Jungle Carbine too which is a lot of fun to shoot!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:23 PM (MVjcR)

213 'I'd say it is my SMLE #5 MK 1 - the Jungle Carbine, in .303.'

If favorite rifle means one you don't mind toting around all day I might want to change my choice.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 08:23 PM (UdKB7)

214 153
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 07:54 PM (UsCnO)



I was going to call in that I got it, but I understand they're
tapping phone lines. Even though that's not allowed. Got some peanut
butter?

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 04, 2018 07:57 PM (C1NyB)

Yes, but it is crunchy and all natural. I like it that way, I like to stir things up.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:24 PM (UsCnO)

215 If favorite rifle means one you don't mind toting around all day I might want to change my choice.


That's why God gave us slings.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 08:24 PM (yQpMk)

216 Looks like gab might be coming back up. It's starting to intermittently work

Posted by: Gman at November 04, 2018 08:25 PM (GyfXs)

217
197 Appomattox, VA. NE of Lynchburg about 30 minutes.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

I drove through on the way home from a pointing dog training trip. Beautiful area. Guy from S.C. does the training. I wish that wasn't so far away.
Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 08:17 PM (kiSdp)
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Thanks! It really is beautiful and the people are great The more I'm down there, the more I like it!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:25 PM (MVjcR)

218 Posted by: IC at November 04, 2018 08:22 PM (4lu7W)

And in your Halloween dress.

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 08:26 PM (kiSdp)

219
If favorite rifle means one you don't mind toting around all day I might want to change my choice.
Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 08:23 PM (UdKB7)
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They're sturdy!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:27 PM (MVjcR)

220 Weasel, back at my 119, that was supposed to be I will.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 08:28 PM (tJujB)

221 204 sorry O/T...wish I saw this during the book thread, but I just noticed that author Matt Bracken's Twitter account has been suspended.

Anyone know why?
Posted by: squeakywheel at November 04, 2018 08:20 PM (ekJ3K)

.......

Darnn, I missed a banhammering?

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:29 PM (DMcz+)

222 Today, I carried a G22 for the yob and a G19 out and about. Both favorites because I carried them.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2018 08:30 PM (zLDYs)

223 And I see they're all rifles and not smoothbores so I'm doubly wrong.
BTW, interesting weapons. I especially like the Jaeger-style one.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2018 08:30 PM (Evws/)

224 Been eyeing a Bond Arms Derringer. Any pros cons?

Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 08:30 PM (2na8x)

225 So, I put on a T-Bone that needed to be grilled, as I got busy yesterday and alternative plans dictated a different dinner plan.


And then the Gun Thread appeared. Lost all track of time.



The result? My first T-Bone, Donald Trump style.


Going to have to drink twice as much red wine to make up for it.


I'm good, it was the Gun Thread after all.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:30 PM (UsCnO)

226 222 204 sorry O/T...wish I saw this during the book thread, but I just noticed that author Matt Bracken's Twitter account has been suspended.

Anyone know why?
Posted by: squeakywheel at November 04, 2018 08:20 PM (ekJ3K)

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I'm kind of surprised they have left him alone this long.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:31 PM (MVjcR)

227 Ok, gonna be a dik. Nothing new. How can the Armalite M16 or civ AR15 not be your favorite weapon?

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:31 PM (DMcz+)

228 Today, I carried a G22 for the yob and a G19 out and about. Both favorites because I carried them.
Posted by: Eromero


Did you heft a FN-FAL around for any period or know anyone that did? They look awfully weighty.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 08:32 PM (aPsQQ)

229 Grey Fox, TVM calls it the Late Lancaster.

Nice. My own home-made flintlock rifle is based on Chamber's Early Lancaster, using the same buttplate, triggerguard, and stock pattern.

That is one gun I won't sell, if for no other reason than it is so ugly that no one would want to buy it!

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 08:33 PM (bZ7mE)

230 221 Weasel, back at my 119, that was supposed to be I will.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 08:28 PM (tJujB)
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Lessons and bad advice are free. Doubly free for you Ben Had!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:33 PM (MVjcR)

231 206
So in the 60 minutes piece, why did they not use some real
competition - like the aforementioned .308, a Marlin .444, a.500 nitro
Express, or even Ma Deuce?

Posted by: Ex-ex



If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 08:21 PM (aPsQQ)
HAHAHAHAHA!
So true.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:33 PM (UsCnO)

232 205 195 So i need a little coaching here.

Got my S&W .357 a couple weeks ago. Ran a couple hundred rounds of .38 through and seems to do well. Single action better than double of course.

Then I tried a few rounds of .357. Once again, single action accurate and controlled. Double action, however was a bit overwhelming.

I want to be solid and confident. How do I train more for the .357 double action other than just shooting a shitload of rounds? Any specific muscle memory drills?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 08:16 PM (PkVlr)
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Is that ever a great question! There is a lot more going on in DA, and the tendency is to anticipate the shot. I know that I still find myself doing it sometimes. Lots and lots of shooting is one answer, but I will tell you that I mentally rehearse the shot first and COMMAND myself not to anticipate the shot which seems to help me a little.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:21 PM (MVjcR)


Acclimation.

Rent or borrow a 44 mag. Shoot a couple boxes. Then shoot your 357 mag.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (di1hb)

233 weft, no FN-Fal for me, but my bro has one.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (zLDYs)

234 225 Been eyeing a Bond Arms Derringer. Any pros cons?
Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 08:30 PM (2na8x)
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A derringer is something I've only fired once. A friend owned it and he didn't keep it long.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (MVjcR)

235 'How can the Armalite M16 or civ AR15 not be your favorite weapon?'

Good all around rifle that doesn't weigh too much. What's not to like? It's just so cold, not like a nice warm Garand .

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (UdKB7)

236 192 Ex-ex, great to have you here.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 08:14 PM (tJujB)

Thanks Ben Had

Posted by: Ex-ex at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (js0Yg)

237 38' of drop at 1000yards with the 308. I don't know if I can even
raise the peep sight up that much. I think it only goes up to 800meters.

Posted by: Grump928(C)


38 foot drop or did you mean 38" (inch) drop?

Big difference.


Posted by: LGoPs at November 04, 2018 08:36 PM (ziurx)

238 I always had a soft spot for what they used to call the CAR-15.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 04, 2018 08:36 PM (9Om/r)

239 Acclimation.

Rent or borrow a 44 mag. Shoot a couple boxes. Then shoot your 357 mag.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (di1hb)
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True!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:36 PM (MVjcR)

240 And my favorite GUN is an M101A1.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:36 PM (DMcz+)

241 Rex @RexImperator has also been Twitter banned. They're hitting all the popular conservatives before the election because SM was used so effectively for Trump in 2016 and the Left can't meme.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2018 08:37 PM (Evws/)

242 I want to make a rifle based on the same original that this one is based on: https://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2010/02/ian-pratt-rifle.html

I've been trying to get a suitable barrel for it for quite awhile now, though, and it keeps getting delayed.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 08:37 PM (bZ7mE)

243 Looks like Gab is back up and running, spread the word, especially to people who were interested in signing up when it went down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 04, 2018 08:37 PM (39g3+)

244 Like many others here ... I got paid, but not much, to carry the M-16.

The rifle I carry for free is the Springfield M1A.

Posted by: The Midnight Rider at November 04, 2018 08:38 PM (1hhNr)

245 Big difference.
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That's what she said!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2018 08:38 PM (Evws/)

246 If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 08:21 PM (aPsQQ)
HAHAHAHAHA!
So true.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:33 PM (UsCnO)

It was a purely rhetorical question.

Posted by: Ex-ex at November 04, 2018 08:38 PM (js0Yg)

247
Good all around rifle that doesn't weigh too much. What's not to like? It's just so cold, not like a nice warm Garand .
Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (UdKB7)

.......

You are going to have to edjucamate me at a MoMe.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:39 PM (DMcz+)

248 Leftist "comedians" also made fun of Barron. One of them even said something like she hoped he doesn't get killed by an AR-15 (paraphrasing I don't remember the exact "joke"). So is it really shocking that these same assholes would make fun of a wounded vet?

I don't even get mad anymore at this shit, it's just where we are as a society.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:39 PM (suxaw)

249 233
205 195 So i need a little coaching here.



Got my SW .357 a couple weeks ago. Ran a couple hundred rounds
of .38 through and seems to do well. Single action better than double of
course.



Then I tried a few rounds of .357. Once again, single action
accurate and controlled. Double action, however was a bit overwhelming.



I want to be solid and confident. How do I train more for the .357
double action other than just shooting a shitload of rounds? Any
specific muscle memory drills?

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 08:16 PM (PkVlr)

--------

Is that ever a great question! There is a lot more going on in DA,
and the tendency is to anticipate the shot. I know that I still find
myself doing it sometimes. Lots and lots of shooting is one answer, but I
will tell you that I mentally rehearse the shot first and COMMAND
myself not to anticipate the shot which seems to help me a little.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:21 PM (MVjcR)



Acclimation.



Rent or borrow a 44 mag. Shoot a couple boxes. Then shoot your 357 mag.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (di1hb)

The Horde is truly the center mass of wisdom.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:39 PM (UsCnO)

250 'especially to people who were interested in signing up when it went down.'

I'm not really interested unless it will somehow help wreck twitter.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 08:40 PM (UdKB7)

251 244 Looks like Gab is back up and running, spread the word, especially to people who were interested in signing up when it went down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 04, 2018 08:37 PM (39g3+)

........

Awesome. Nice post.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:40 PM (DMcz+)

252 Fired 50 rounds through my new Glock 19X today. My first impression is the new 'Marksman' barrel seems to be a bit more accurate barrel then my G19/G17 Gen 3's. The extended grip feels wonderful in my hand. It's a keeper.


Posted by: Ugg Boots at November 04, 2018 08:41 PM (r9UYA)

253 247
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer.



Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 08:21 PM (aPsQQ)

HAHAHAHAHA!

So true.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:33 PM (UsCnO)



It was a purely rhetorical question.

Posted by: Ex-ex at November 04, 2018 08:38 PM (js0Yg)

You are a visionary and you don't even realize it.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:41 PM (UsCnO)

254 The ex-ex is here... y'all find a new place yet?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 08:41 PM (kufk0)

255 off stinky boots

Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 08:42 PM (r9UYA)

256 A derringer is something I've only fired once. A friend owned it and he didn't keep it long.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (MVjcR)


Did you know? Derringers are a type of gun. I know this because of all of the facts.

http://tinyurl.com/yd44b6f6

Posted by: Rolling Stone Magazine at November 04, 2018 08:42 PM (mS+Df)

257 238 38' of drop at 1000yards with the 308. I don't know if I can even
raise the peep sight up that much. I think it only goes up to 800meters.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

38 foot drop or did you mean 38" (inch) drop?

Big difference.


Posted by: LGoPs at November 04, 2018 08:36 PM (ziurx)
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I think perhaps what Grump was referring to was the point of impact if the bullet path did not arc, but continued on a straight line from the muzzle. Depending on the load, 38 MOA is in the right neighborhood for .308 elevation at 1000 yds.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:43 PM (MVjcR)

258 240 Acclimation.

Rent or borrow a 44 mag. Shoot a couple boxes. Then shoot your 357 mag.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (di1hb)
------
True!
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:36 PM (MVjcR)


Or that 500 S&W over there. Just skip load the first few cylinders.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 04, 2018 08:44 PM (di1hb)

259 WA has a ballot measure that while doesn't ban AR-15 makes it a lot harder to get one. And also classifies all semi-auto rifles as "assault weapons". Among the things the ballot measure will do
- have to be 21 to buy
- 10 day wait period
- must take a safety course prior to buying
- $25 tax

This applies only to "assault weapons". And then for all guns, if you have a minor in the house, guns have to be locked up. If the minor gets access to a gun, the parent/guardian will be liable for any crimes committed by he minor with the gun.

And it will pass easily, probably get 65% of the vote.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:44 PM (suxaw)

260 256 off stinky boots
Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 08:42 PM (r9UYA)

.......

Is that superior to off stinky socks?

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:44 PM (DMcz+)

261 A derringer is something I've only fired once. A friend owned it and he didn't keep it long.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:35 PM (MVjcR)


Well, that answers my question. Thank you.

Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 08:45 PM (2na8x)

262 The military will shortly replace the .556 with the 6.8. They've been talking about it for a decade but it looks like it's finally going to happen.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 08:45 PM (2DOZq)

263 'Derringers are a type of gun.'

And a floor wax!

Posted by: Rick Derringer at November 04, 2018 08:45 PM (UdKB7)

264 249
Leftist "comedians" also made fun of Barron. One of them even said
something like she hoped he doesn't get killed by an AR-15 (paraphrasing
I don't remember the exact "joke"). So is it really shocking that these
same assholes would make fun of a wounded vet?



I don't even get mad anymore at this shit, it's just where we are as a society.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:39 PM (suxaw)

You're correct, but I am still keeping a list.

And with the cheap cost of computing these days, I include pics and maps if I can get them.


Thumb drives are great.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:46 PM (UsCnO)

265 Ben Had, if you're still around, regarding hay, it shouldn't make any significant difference velocity-wise. I'd be more concerned about possible deflection by the interface boundaries, but given it's hay, that's likely insignificant, too.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2018 08:46 PM (DMUuz)

266 Still giggling over E. Fudd and fav wifle.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:46 PM (DMcz+)

267 Oh and my wife voted yes for that ballot measure cuz kids and safety and FOR THE CHILDREN. And this is a Trump 2016 voter, FWIW. But also a soft spot for all THINK OF THE CHILDREN bullshit that left pushes.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:46 PM (suxaw)

268 WA has a ballot measure that while doesn't ban AR-15 makes it a lot harder to get one. And also classifies all semi-auto rifles as "assault weapons".
Posted by: Lurking Lurker



engrenage

Learn it, oppose it, educate others.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 08:46 PM (aPsQQ)

269 38 foot drop or did you mean 38" (inch) drop?



456" @ 1000yds is what I'm seeing for 168-grain BTHP.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 08:46 PM (yQpMk)

270 Ducanthrax,
How's kitty ace doing?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 08:47 PM (kufk0)

271 >>Is that superior to off stinky socks?

Posted by: Smaug

Stinky socks can be washed.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 08:47 PM (r9UYA)

272 255 The ex-ex is here... y'all find a new place yet?
Posted by: lin-duh

Yeah. We moved in the 1st. Ain't got a stick of furniture yet, but it's already better than what we had.

Posted by: Ex-ex at November 04, 2018 08:48 PM (js0Yg)

273 263
The military will shortly replace the .556 with the 6.8. They've been
talking about it for a decade but it looks like it's finally going to
happen.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 08:45 PM (2DOZq)

And another 20+ million gun owners will shudder their collection is now no longer complete.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:48 PM (UsCnO)

274 Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:44 PM (suxaw)

None of that stuff sounds legal over there in WA state.

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 08:48 PM (kiSdp)

275

Well, that answers my question. Thank you.
Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 08:45 PM (2na8x)
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That may have sounded more critical than i intended. Since it doesn't have a trigger guard, the trigger pull is about a zillion pounds, and with the tiny grip I just had a hard time aiming it.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:48 PM (MVjcR)

276 Damn, my brain thinks it's almost bedtime. I'm getting sleepy...

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 08:48 PM (kufk0)

277 195 ... "I want to be solid and confident. How do I train more for the .357 double action other than just shooting a shitload of rounds? Any specific muscle memory drills?"

I am by no means an expert but I have to be slow and deliberate when firing DA. Part of that is I have big hands and have to concentrate on trigger finger placement. Then really take my time applying pressure. Gradually, I build up speed.

Two things I've found. I have to repeat the process often to retain whatever skills I've developed. Mine don't last forever. Also, I had to learn that I can't fire powerful rounds as quickly, with accuracy, as milder loads. I'm faster with 38 or 44 specials compared to 357 or 44 magnums.

Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 08:48 PM (V+03K)

278 >>260
WA has a ballot measure that while doesn't ban AR-15 makes it a lot harder to get one.


Once again the NRA left us out to dry. They are worthless.

Glad we're out of this insane asylum next year. Good riddance to WA state.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 08:49 PM (r9UYA)

279 250 233
205 195 So i need a little coaching here.

Load one empty brass per cylinder. Spin. Practice till you dont flinch on empty chamber.

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at November 04, 2018 08:49 PM (tV1En)

280 268 Oh and my wife voted yes for that ballot measure cuz kids and safety and FOR THE CHILDREN. And this is a Trump 2016 voter, FWIW. But also a soft spot for all THINK OF THE CHILDREN bullshit that left pushes.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:46 PM (suxaw)

.........

Yah, well putting up with stupid is in my wheelhouse. Dr. Smaug has the vj!

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:50 PM (DMcz+)

281 Waaaay O/T

I'm on a flight right now and there is someone a couple of rows ahead of me watching an Amy Shumer movie. No clue what movie, I can just see her fugly face on the screen. And the dude is laughing a lot. So I've finally got an answer to to the question "Who the fuck finds that bitch funny?". There you go....THAT GUY!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:50 PM (suxaw)

282 My M1 carbine. Nice shooter, runs good,can carry it all day, everyday. BUT , my SKS is the weapon for when things get real

Posted by: Rick554 at November 04, 2018 08:51 PM (nT69T)

283 I want to be solid and confident. How do I train more for the .357 double action other than just shooting a shitload of rounds? Any specific muscle memory drills?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Have a range buddy load a mix of 38s and 357s in the cylinder. You won't know how many of each, or which chamber. Great practise for acclimation to 357.

Posted by: 30-06 afficianado at November 04, 2018 08:51 PM (AQxLS)

284 So, it's like overtraining. Shoot something way more powerful to build contro then step down?


And, btw, I live in Seattle. My kid, who turned 18 on Friday, no guy an AR 15 on Saturday in anticipation of the new law getting passed. And yes, he also voted.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 08:51 PM (PkVlr)

285 Duncanthrax, Thank You. I was curious if 3 bales at 15 feet was any different than 5 contiguous bales at 15 feet.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 08:51 PM (tJujB)

286 Hi Ex-ex!

Duncanthrax - update on the kitty, please!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:51 PM (MVjcR)

287 268
Oh and my wife voted yes for that ballot measure cuz kids and safety and
FOR THE CHILDREN. And this is a Trump 2016 voter, FWIW. But also a soft
spot for all THINK OF THE CHILDREN bullshit that left pushes.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:46 PM (suxaw)

When the next American Civil War starts, turn to her and said, "this is partially YOUR fault, dear."

Just make sure you say "dear".


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (UsCnO)

288 Once again the NRA left us out to dry. They are worthless.

Glad we're out of this insane asylum next year. Good riddance to WA state.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 08:49 PM (r9UYA)

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The NRA sued to keep this measure off the ballot. And they won. Until the WA supreme court overturned that win. WA supremes would overturn 2+2=4 if a Democrat asked them to.

So I wouldn't be too hard to the NRA on this one. They tried.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (suxaw)

289 This thread sure seems slow for a Gun Thread.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (F0Iqf)

290 ugboots @ 253- If I was going to get a G19X, I'd buy the G45. The 'black' one.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (zLDYs)

291 My M1 carbine. Nice shooter, runs good,can carry it all day, everyday. BUT , my SKS is the weapon for when things get real

What do you like about it vs the carbine? I would think just having the box magazine vs the stripper clips would be a plus for the M1.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (yQpMk)

292
That may have sounded more critical than i intended. Since it doesn't have a trigger guard, the trigger pull is about a zillion pounds, and with the tiny grip I just had a hard time aiming it.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:48 PM (MVjcR)

.....

Pretty sure not. Most kind hearted weasel. The lack of nasty clashes on the AoSHQ is why this FNG dipped in.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (DMcz+)

293 290 This thread sure seems slow for a Gun Thread.
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (F0Iqf)

.......

Heat it up!

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 08:54 PM (DMcz+)

294 Weasel, I was only looking at the ones with the trigger guard. The ones with no trigger guard seem to just be a waste for my intended purposes.

Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 08:54 PM (2na8x)

295 205 195 So i need a little coaching here.

Load one empty brass per cylinder. Spin. Practice till you dont flinch on empty chamber.
Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at November 04, 2018 08:49 PM (tV1En)
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My pal with all the machine guns does that drill, and he almost always flinches. Then he yells at himself, and then he does it again. It probably works for normal people though!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:55 PM (MVjcR)

296 >>291
ugboots @ 253- If I was going to get a G19X, I'd buy the G45. The 'black' one.


Posted by: Eromero

Doesn't look as cool.
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>>>So I wouldn't be too hard to the NRA on this one. They tried.

The anti ads are running 10 to 1. I see very few NRA paid ads.


Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 08:55 PM (r9UYA)

297 FWIW that WA ballot could have been a lot worse. At first they were looking to ban all semi auto rifles. I guess they figured that was a bridge too far even for the WA courts and settled on just making it hard as fuck to buy one instead.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:56 PM (suxaw)

298 Just checking in.
I SO want a cup holder on my .308!!!!

You listening Santa?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2018 08:56 PM (0tfLf)

299 Insty: "the Georgia Democrat has vowed to ban the very rifles the Black Panthers are carrying".


What Would E. Fudd Do?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 04, 2018 08:56 PM (Ndje9)

300 279
>>260

WA has a ballot measure that while doesn't ban AR-15 makes it a lot harder to get one.


Once again the NRA left us out to dry. They are worthless.

Glad we're out of this insane asylum next year. Good riddance to WA state.



Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 08:49 PM (r9UYA)

Born here.

I'm staying.

And fighting.

And shooting the bastards when the next CW starts. Shooting the bastards. They gave up on America a long time ago. Fuch them.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:57 PM (UsCnO)

301 295 Weasel, I was only looking at the ones with the trigger guard. The ones with no trigger guard seem to just be a waste for my intended purposes.
Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 08:54 PM (2na8x)
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It was all I could do to keep from shooting myself because it was so awkward. Maybe I was doing it wrong.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:57 PM (MVjcR)

302 The anti ads are running 10 to 1. I see very few NRA paid ads.


Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 08:55 PM (r9UYA)

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They could buy 1000 ads and it won't make a difference. King Co will vote 80-20 for it and the rest of the state will vote 70-30 against it, and it will still pass. Basically how every election in WA state works.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:57 PM (suxaw)

303 Ex-ex,
Glad you got out of that ungodly place!
SMH, feeling better?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 08:57 PM (kufk0)

304 My boys and I will be right there with you Left Coast Dawg.


Btw, how bout them HUSKIES!!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 08:58 PM (PkVlr)

305 290 This thread sure seems slow for a Gun Thread.
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (F0Iqf)
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CBD may be deleting comments behind the scenes to keep the count low.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:59 PM (MVjcR)

306 'Heat it up!'

You're the f'n dragon!

Posted by: Dick Derringer at November 04, 2018 08:59 PM (UdKB7)

307 I have other options, but sadly there was a canoe accident.

Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (2na8x)

308 For urban rabbit hunting, I found a good air rifle option. Many jurisdictions let you shoot air rifles inside city limits as it is not a "firearm." My city adds a "can't display any scary black replica gun where visible to the street" type rule that applies even to pellet guns.

I use a Gammo Swarm Maxxim, which is manual break barrel powered, with a 10 shot revolving cartridge for .22 pellets, with enough power to drop a rabbit in one shot. It's suppressed so it won't annoy neighbors. Plus the 10 shot option ensures you can get multiple rabbits in one go, with follow up execution shots as quickly and humanely as possible. They also have a stronger Magnum variant, for $300 versus $180.

Posted by: wooga at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (n5VsB)

309
The NRA sued to keep this measure off the
ballot. And they won. Until the WA supreme court overturned that win. WA
supremes would overturn 2+2=4 if a Democrat asked them to.



So I wouldn't be too hard to the NRA on this one. They tried.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (suxaw)

The Washington State Supreme Court would make Red China envious. Not Xi's China, Mao's China. They are truly evil people.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (UsCnO)

310 WA also has a ballot measure to increase energy costs to save mother gaia. What's another $1000 a year in heating costs? You're saving a tree and a whale dude!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (suxaw)

311 Yeah, I'm ok, lin-duh.

Just reading stories over at This Ain't Hell.

And watching this kitteh lose her mind over her toy mice.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 09:01 PM (fbgDX)

312 308 Wow, the NYT live polling just found that Hultgren in Illinios 14 lost with only 43% of the vote (49-43). This kind of result will lead to the GOP losing 40 seats in the House.

Every race in the NYT live polling is now breaking huge for the Dems. GOP candidates losing in suburbs of Dallas, Atlanta, Orange County, etc. Looks like a bloodbath
Posted by: Ghidorah at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (wWPNi)

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Since NYT is a very unbiased source of political info, I am taking their polling data very seriously.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:01 PM (suxaw)

313 This thread sure seems slow for a Gun Thread.
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (F0Iqf)
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CBD may be deleting comments behind the scenes to keep the count low.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:59 PM (MVjcR)

Is there some sort of thread envy amongst the Cobs?

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 09:02 PM (F0Iqf)

314 308
Wow, the NYT live polling just found that Hultgren in Illinios 14 lost
with only 43% of the vote (49-43). This kind of result will lead to the
GOP losing 40 seats in the House.



Every race in the NYT live polling is now breaking huge for the
Dems. GOP candidates losing in suburbs of Dallas, Atlanta, Orange
County, etc. Looks like a bloodbath

Posted by: Ghidorah at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (wWPNi)

Don't forget, G, to cash that Soros check on Monday. Deposit it, and it will bounce on Tuesday.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:02 PM (UsCnO)

315 308 Ghidorah

Gonna be a long night.

(And yeah, I know, don't feed the trolls.)

Posted by: ibguy at November 04, 2018 09:02 PM (vUcdz)

316 Ex-ex shaved his beard off.

Folks at church barely recognized him.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 09:02 PM (fbgDX)

317 The photo of the Atlanta Panthers, one of them has their scope mounted backwards!

Posted by: backbeat baby at November 04, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)

318 CBD may be deleting comments behind the scenes to keep the count low.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:59 PM (MVjcR)

.........

Shit. Now I now know why it's raining. Was blaming my jehw wife.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:03 PM (DMcz+)

319 My boy was handling his new AR in the living room last night. The kitteh thought the laser pointer was for her. She went batshit crazy

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 09:03 PM (PkVlr)

320 Since NYT is a very unbiased source of political info, I am taking their polling data very seriously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:01 PM (suxaw)

It'll be an early night. NYT told me there's an 85% chance Hillary wins.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:03 PM (GBteo)

321 I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago.

I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why trolls think it's okay to micturate down their own legs in Weasel's lovely gun thread. I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of helplessness were just too much. She could tell something was wrong. I found myself at such a loss for words - nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, "I just don't know - I don't know what's going on in this country anymore..."

When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, "Mommy" she said, "why are trolls doing this to the thread?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. I just fell into her arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes. She had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think it's too much, but seeing the strength in my daughter's voice helped me to get through.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:04 PM (mS+Df)

322 Every race in the NYT live polling is now breaking huge for the Dems. GOP candidates losing in suburbs of Dallas, Atlanta, Orange County, etc. Looks like a bloodbath

Posted by: Ghidorah at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (wWPNi)



Heh.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:04 PM (yQpMk)

323 SMH,
That's what kittens do. My kitten drags her wand toy around the house, wand and all. Pretty funny.
Glad your feeling better. Sorry about the daughter situation...will keep praying for all of you.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 09:04 PM (kufk0)

324
Is there some sort of thread envy amongst the Cobs?
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 09:02 PM (F0Iqf)
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Nah, I'm just goofing on Mr. Dildo and his 7,000 comment food thread.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:04 PM (MVjcR)

325 323 hogmartin

A classic - Thanks!!

Posted by: ibguy at November 04, 2018 09:04 PM (vUcdz)

326 Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 08:16 PM (PkVlr)

I'm late with this, and I hope you're still around.

A great aid for this is snap caps. Put one in the cylinder with 5 live rounds. Spin it, and close it up without looking. (You probably already know this, but don't flick your wrist to flip the cylinder closed like in the movies. It's really bad for the crane.)
Anyway, shoot the cylinder. At some point, you'll land on the snap cap. This will point out if you are anticipating too much, plus it will really get you used to the trigger.

Remember, this is a very fungible skill. DA revolver shooting takes a lot of practice. I'm still not worth a shit like I should be.

**you can also do 2 or 3 snap caps, if you're a masochist like that....

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 04, 2018 09:05 PM (C1NyB)

327 Black vs Coyote vs FDE or OD for a polymer lower on a handgun?


Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 09:05 PM (r9UYA)

328 Nah, I'm just goofing on Mr. Dildo and his 7,000 comment food thread.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:04 PM (MVjcR)

Yeah but dude did you see the pictures of the food? Especially that stew-looking thing in the dutch oven?

C'mon.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:05 PM (GBteo)

329 321 My boy was handling his new AR in the living room last night. The kitteh thought the laser pointer was for her. She went batshit crazy
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 09:03 PM (PkVlr)

........

Whoa, new Moron Kitteh toys. Visit AoSHQ store.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:05 PM (DMcz+)

330 The Republican response to Ghidorah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbB9GBykZAA

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 09:06 PM (bZ7mE)

331 I bet ex-ex looks much younger without the big, luxurious beard....

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 09:06 PM (kufk0)

332 258 238 38' of drop at 1000yards with the 308. I don't know if I can even
raise the peep sight up that much. I think it only goes up to 800meters.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

38 foot drop or did you mean 38" (inch) drop?

Big difference.


Posted by: LGoPs at November 04, 2018 08:36 PM (ziurx)
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I think perhaps what Grump was referring to was the point of impact if the bullet path did not arc, but continued on a straight line from the muzzle. Depending on the load, 38 MOA is in the right neighborhood for .308 elevation at 1000 yds.
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:43 PM (MVjcR)


IIRC, most commercial ballistic firing table data is shown with a 100 yd zero. Bullet drop is distance below point of aim at various ranges.

Military firing tables have a ton more data. Basically, it is set up with various superelevation angles (bore axis angle with respect to horizontal. You get max ordinate, range to impact, angle of drop, and height above horizontal at various ranges.

Had to use those to calculate impact area when crews shot outside range limits a few times. To get superelevation angle, you have to measure it on the barrel with a quadrant sight. Ballistic ded reckoning.

The fun part was going out to see if you could actually find the impact point.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 04, 2018 09:06 PM (di1hb)

333 Every race in the NYT live polling is now breaking huge for the Dems. GOP candidates losing in suburbs of Dallas, Atlanta, Orange County, etc. Looks like a bloodbath

Posted by: Ghidorah at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (wWPNi)

You'd love to see our polling, we have the Generic Ballot at D+8974331.

Posted by: Quinninippiacaccacaquapac Polling Institute at November 04, 2018 09:06 PM (F0Iqf)

334 >>Every race in the NYT live polling is now breaking huge for the Dems.


This has so much troll scat around it it's laughable.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 09:06 PM (r9UYA)

335 AZ-1 which a D won in 2016 by 8 was moved from Lean D to Toss Up today on RCP.

Not very blue wavy.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:07 PM (suxaw)

336 Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:04 PM (mS+Df)
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A scene that I'm certain is being repeated all across America.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:07 PM (MVjcR)

337 305
My boys and I will be right there with you Left Coast Dawg.





Btw, how bout them HUSKIES!!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 08:58 PM (PkVlr)

I have 3 younger brothers, one of them is a Cougar alum. 364 days a year, we are inseparable, arguing brothers.

One day a year, I have no idea who the bastard is.

But once again, the Apple Cup will decide who plays for the Pac 12 championship. As is it should be. Minshew is a damned good QB. Cougs are tough this year.




Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:07 PM (UsCnO)

338 The Republican response to Ghidorah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbB9GBykZAA
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 09:06 PM (bZ7mE)


It's called the Trump effect.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at November 04, 2018 09:07 PM (T71PA)

339 FPosted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (suxaw)

Can that WA state gun thingy go to the Supreme Court? Cuz that sounds like a camel's nose under the tent issue.

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 09:07 PM (kiSdp)

340 They should just issue a BAR to every soldier that can bench 250 and above.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:07 PM (2DOZq)

341 What I'm blown away by on RCP is how many races have either zero polling or have a single, small sample size poll by a no name outfit from a month ago.

They sure seem confident in some of these projections based on... something.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:08 PM (GBteo)

342 Thanks lin-duh.

I'll be fasting and praying tomorrow...

Lord knows we need to.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 09:08 PM (fbgDX)

343 Hey I made Breitbart! I'm the guy on the left in the red hat.

https://tinyurl.com/y8t2sbpk

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:08 PM (UdKB7)

344 COB shoot out. Somebody throw a ham in the air and we see if CBD or Weasel shoots it first.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 09:09 PM (tJujB)

345 >>321 My boy was handling his new AR in the living room last night. The
kitteh thought the laser pointer was for her. She went batshit crazy

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 09:03 PM (PkVlr)
LOL

Was the new firearm all gunked up with cosmoline grease? If so a thorough cleaning and lubing should be done. YMMV.


Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 09:09 PM (r9UYA)

346 lol, he does lin-duh.

Next: a haircut.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 09:09 PM (fbgDX)

347 I only shoot 150gr 7.62 in my BM59 and 03a3. The 59 has the same 1:10 twist as the Garand so in theory, I could shoot 200gr bullets through it. I guess I would need an adjustable gas port though. Would it be worth it to try? Or does that only make sense at 800+ yards?

I could try it in the M1903 but that thing is already more accurate than I am.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:09 PM (yQpMk)

348 for example, WI-3 went Trump +4.5, has had zero polling, but has it has likely D.

I mean, it might end up being likely D, but that's a complete guess.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:10 PM (GBteo)

349 COB shoot out.



*throws up corn dodger*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:10 PM (yQpMk)

350 Next: a haircut.
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Good luck with that!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 09:10 PM (kufk0)

351 343 What I'm blown away by on RCP is how many races have either zero polling or have a single, small sample size poll by a no name outfit from a month ago.

They sure seem confident in some of these projections based on... something.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:08 PM (GBteo)

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Yeah it's weird. Like AZ-1 went from Lean D to tossup without any new polls either. It's almost like someone just throws darts or something. I dunno. Or maybe there are other polls they look at but don't publish on RCP? Which would be really weird, but there has to be something underlying these ratings.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:11 PM (suxaw)

352 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 08:57 PM (UsCnO)

So if I move to eastern WA with my AR-10, is someone going to check if I have it?

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 09:12 PM (kiSdp)

353 What I'm blown away by on RCP is how many races have either zero polling or have a single, small sample size poll by a no name outfit from a month ago.

They sure seem confident in some of these projections based on... something.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:08 PM (GBteo)

Two Words: Newspaper Endorsements.

Posted by: Real Clear Polling at November 04, 2018 09:12 PM (F0Iqf)

354 345 Hey I made Breitbart! I'm the guy on the left in the red hat.

https://tinyurl.com/y8t2sbpk
Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:08 PM (UdKB7)

..........

Lol, you and about a gadjillion other red hats. Need verification.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:12 PM (DMcz+)

355 This is a bit off-topic, but didja y'all know about this?

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https://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=82551

C-130s are badass.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 09:12 PM (fbgDX)

356 Lol, you and about a gadjillion other red hats. Need verification.
Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:12 PM (DMcz+)


You can tell because he's the one with the peanut butter crackers.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:13 PM (mS+Df)

357 Oh joy, son is practicing his tuba... good thing I have a box of earplugs. I can use my muffs if it gets really bad...

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 09:13 PM (kufk0)

358 Yeah it's weird. Like AZ-1 went from Lean D to tossup without any new polls either. It's almost like someone just throws darts or something. I dunno. Or maybe there are other polls they look at but don't publish on RCP? Which would be really weird, but there has to be something underlying these ratings.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:11 PM (suxaw)

I think AZ-01's leaning change is due to early voting coming in strong for the R's in that district.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 09:13 PM (F0Iqf)

359
I mean, it might end up being likely D, but that's a complete guess.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:10 PM (GBteo)

.......

Supress Skank vote and all will be well.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:13 PM (DMcz+)

360 Nothing stops low vibrations.
Whales know this.

Posted by: navybrat, travel nut at November 04, 2018 09:14 PM (w7KSn)

361 Yeah it's weird. Like AZ-1 went from Lean D to tossup without any new polls either. It's almost like someone just throws darts or something. I dunno. Or maybe there are other polls they look at but don't publish on RCP? Which would be really weird, but there has to be something underlying these ratings.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:11 PM (suxaw)

Maybe ... I don't think it's that though. At least not exclusively. I think RCP averages polls then stares and chicken entrails (endorsements, which campaign manager can convince them that "momentum is on their side," ad spending, etc.) to make their determination.

In other words: Not fucking science.

Which is why I get so annoyed that with the "polls are scientific proof" assholes.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:14 PM (GBteo)

362 3 generic polls today are D7, D8, D9. That's pretty fucking high. In 2016 polls narrowed to basically a tie by the weekend before election day. Can polls really be THAT off? I dunno, anyhing is possible. For Reps to keep the house it has ot be about D3 or lower. So D8 to D3....that's a lot of polling real estate to overcome.

And before anyone says yeah but look at Trump polls in 2016...I don't think any state Trump won had him losing by more than 5 points, 2 days before election day.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:15 PM (suxaw)

363 You can tell because he's the one with the peanut butter crackers.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:13 PM (mS+Df)

.........

OMG, I see him now.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:15 PM (DMcz+)

364 I stand by my prediction: make up of the house after the election will be similar to what it is now. R's may pick up or lose a handful of seats, but no major change.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:15 PM (GBteo)

365 'Need verification.'

See that big ass ceiling fan in the hangerpicture? That really is a Big Ass Fan.

Bigassfans.com

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (UdKB7)

366 lin-duh, my good friend told me he really enjoyed his chat with your boy about playing the tuba.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (tJujB)

367 Posted by: Ghidorah at November 04, 2018 09:00 PM (wWPNi)

This is a thing of beauty. A treasure to behold. Bless your heart.

You see? Irony is truly dead. If this troll is a true believer, they are laughable beyond description. Simply missing, "Gonna be an early night." Thanks Bill Wynn. Why aren't you 50 points ahead?

And if a parody, well, it's just not very good.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (C1NyB)

368 321
My boy was handling his new AR in the living room last night. The
kitteh thought the laser pointer was for her. She went batshit crazy

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 09:03 PM (PkVlr)

So glad to hear of your boy's new purchase, and of course, his superior, American patriot parent.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (UsCnO)

369 I think AZ-01's leaning change is due to early voting coming in strong for the R's in that district.
Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 09:13 PM (F0Iqf)

___

Ahh OK that makes sense.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (suxaw)

370 Florida stats look good.

Florida 2016 Early voting stats

Dems 1,580,000

Repubs 1,425,000

Democrats out voted republicans by 155,000 or repubs down 2.1% in early voting

Trump won the state on election day.

Florida early voting 2018 as of Nov 4, 2018

988,0000 republicans

1,025,000 democrats

Democrats so far 37,000 ahead or repubs down 2.0% or down less than 2016 in early voting.

So far, that's close BUT .10% BETTER than 2016 when Patriots won Florida for our GPOTUSE.

https://tinyurl.com/htrbpew

https://tinyurl.com/y873znam

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (DMcz+)

371 Do all you morons have your body armor?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)

372
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:09 PM (yQpMk)
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That's on my to-do list of experiments. I mostly stick with 150s in my '03.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:17 PM (ORKC1)

373 Do all you morons have your body armor?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)


I've been waxing my chitinous exoskeleton, yes.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:18 PM (mS+Df)

374 I ran into a young Spec 4 in Iraq a number of years ago who was carrying an M-14. Asked him how that happened and he said, "Hell, I don't know. They just came around and gave them to the guys in my company who were good shots."

Made me chuckle.

Posted by: kaf at November 04, 2018 09:18 PM (PT5l/)

375 Nothing stops low vibrations.
Whales know this.
Posted by: navybrat
---
I know, but it muffles it a bit...

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 09:18 PM (kufk0)

376 So far, that's close BUT .10% BETTER than 2016 when Patriots won Florida for our GPOTUSE.

Posted by: Smaug


When did you first see AoSHQ?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 09:19 PM (aPsQQ)

377 My prediction is which ever side wins the house, the margin of victory will be less than 10. It's going to be a 220-215ish house.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:19 PM (suxaw)

378 364 3 generic polls today are D7, D8, D9. That's pretty fucking high. In 2016 polls narrowed to basically a tie by the weekend before election day. Can polls really be THAT off? I dunno, anyhing is possible. For Reps to keep the house it has ot be about D3 or lower. So D8 to D3....that's a lot of polling real estate to overcome.

And before anyone says yeah but look at Trump polls in 2016...I don't think any state Trump won had him losing by more than 5 points, 2 days before election day.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:15 PM (suxaw)

a) nationwide polls dont matter for individual house races

b) yes -- the polls are almost always uniformly inaccurate. The biggest voodoo in the polling word is adjustments for demographics, and guesses on turn out models. All polls are assuming a higher D turnout in the midterms than usual since the D base is so pumped up and the R base is not. That may or may not end up being true. But if their assumptions are off by a 1 or 2 percentage points (or more) in turn out (which they will be), then their numbers in every close race get thrown way off.

Look at 2012 -- not a single polling outfit was correct in their turn out models. No one (and I mean no one) thought black turn out in 2012 would be higher than it was in 2008.

Thus every poll was wrong. Some got lucky and still guessed a sort of correct outcome.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:19 PM (GBteo)

379 373 Do all you morons have your body armor?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq

......

I do not. I count on my 400 mt head shot with open sight AR 15 for the advantage.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:19 PM (DMcz+)

380 The M14 has the gas system the Garand should have had to begin with.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:19 PM (yQpMk)

381 Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:15 PM (suxaw)

Generic Country wide polls are worthless.

The only thing that matters are head to head polls.

Because Country wide generic polls are like the popular vote... it really does not matter.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 04, 2018 09:20 PM (NgKpN)

382
When did you first see AoSHQ?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 09:19 PM (aPsQQ)

......

Been lurking for about 4 years.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:20 PM (DMcz+)

383 Do all you morons have your body armor?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)


F'real though, might be a PASGT helmet and vest around here somewhere.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:20 PM (mS+Df)

384 Weasel, I'm glad you didn't ask about what one handgun we would never sell. I would have to break it down by caliber and then agonize about which ones in each category.

Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 09:20 PM (V+03K)

385 This is my wifle,
This is my gun,
This is for fighting
and this is for fun.

huh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh.

Posted by: Pvt. Fudd at November 04, 2018 09:20 PM (oVJmc)

386 Maybe longer. I feel safe here. Took along time.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:21 PM (DMcz+)

387 >>373 Do all you morons have your body armor?

Too heavy. Too expensive.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 09:21 PM (r9UYA)

388 The M14 has the gas system the Garand should have had to begin with.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:19 PM (yQpMk)

I think the new 6.8 rifles for the military will be piston.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

389 Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:21 PM (DMcz+)

I'm glad you're here. Probably the rest of us, too!

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (C1NyB)

390 OK, gun nuts. I finished Lumen, a mystery in which the victim had prophesied that she would be killed through her name, Lumen, Latin for light. Using this, our hero was able to determine what gun had killed her. This is 1939.

Go!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (+y/Ru)

391 Harry P:

a. It doesn't but trends do matter.

b. Agree totally, this is where the polls will be right or wrong, turnout model. And it's where I think we have a shot, because everyone KNOWS Ds are more pumped than Rs. One of my guiding principles in life is when everyone knows something is absolutely going to happen, it probably won't.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (suxaw)

392 341
FPosted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:52 PM (suxaw)



Can that WA state gun thingy go to the Supreme Court? Cuz that sounds like a camel's nose under the tent issue.

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2018 09:07 PM (kiSdp)

I hope so. Honestly, I gave up on the WSSC a long time ago. They are traitors to the US and Wash State Constitutions. Not even close.

Hopefully with the 5 adults finally in the US Supreme Court, this nonsense destroying the 2nd Amendment, and Article 24 of the WS Constitution, will be called out and defeated, as it should.
Or, as an alternative, we need to start taxing speech at a nickel a word. At least, why aren't these traitors consistent?


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (UsCnO)

393 386 Weasel, I'm glad you didn't ask about what one handgun we would never sell. I would have to break it down by caliber and then agonize about which ones in each category.
Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 09:20 PM (V+03K)
--------
Maybe next week!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (ORKC1)

394 Good Night everyone and Thank You Weasel for another fun gun thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (tJujB)

395

Has freaked returned with a report, yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Creator of the at November 04, 2018 09:23 PM (yxTdI)

396 My boy was handling his new AR in the living room last night. The kitteh thought the laser pointer was for her. She went batshit crazy

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 09:03 PM (PkVlr)

My mother would've drawn and quartered me if I had bought a gun when I was 18. Your son is lucky to have such a great mom.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 09:23 PM (F0Iqf)

397 Here's another "likely Dem" -- look at MN-2.

Two polls, both from around the same time -- wayyy back in September. One has the D +3, the NYT poll has the D+12. Trump carried by +1.2

My only point is that these are garbage numbers and this whole poll worshiping needs to stop.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:23 PM (GBteo)

398 Laser blaster?

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:23 PM (UdKB7)

399 @373 yep. Body armor, gas masks etc just in case the local constabulary ever decides to go full retard nazi progressive.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 04, 2018 09:24 PM (cCxiu)

400 Duncanthrax - update on the kitty, please!
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 08:51 PM


Ace is doing well. Her muzzle is pretty much healed up.

She is a scary smart kitten. Very observant, and learns quickly. She lines up with the dogs at meal times (although she has food available 24x7) and for treats. She is very vocal, and her vocabulary is increasing. Still as affectionate and purry as ever.

Just a super cat.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2018 09:24 PM (DMUuz)

401 Good night, Ben Had.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 04, 2018 09:24 PM (hyuyC)

402
16 Ok.. who blew the margins?
Posted by: Jewells45 at November 04, 2018 07:06 PM (dUJdY)






Hey, it's just a little ice cream.

Posted by: A Penguin at November 04, 2018 09:24 PM (eXA4G)

403 Do all you morons have your body armor?
---
Was in 5.11 today and they had a "Smooth Operator" patch. I just got a belt. Have a range bag from there too. They had some armor but I didn't look too closely.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2018 09:24 PM (kufk0)

404 396 Good Night everyone and Thank You Weasel for another fun gun thread.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (tJujB)
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Thanks and goodnight Ben Had.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:25 PM (ORKC1)

405 SCOTUS has let a lot of state anti-gun things stand lately. I think they're out of the gun business for a while, states can do whatever the fuck they want it seems.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:25 PM (suxaw)

406 379
My prediction is which ever side wins the house, the margin of victory
will be less than 10. It's going to be a 220-215ish house.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:19 PM (suxaw)

With the win, comes the Committee chairs. That is the issue.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:25 PM (UsCnO)

407 239

Greetings, Berserker-Dragonheads Division
(at November 04, 2018 08:36 PM (9Om/r)

Back during my all-expense-paid tour of somewhat sunny Southeast Asia, I had a CAR-15 front end on the regular M-16 back end. I didn't have a good feeling about the collapsable stock and never shot at anything over 220 yards. Great looking weapon that the officer-types were all wanting to borrow or steal.

Mr. Stoners "buffer group" is amazingly unremarked upon but what a great idea.

Posted by: 11B40 at November 04, 2018 09:25 PM (evgyj)

408 391 Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:21 PM (DMcz+)

I'm glad you're here. Probably the rest of us, too!
Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (C1NyB)

.........

Most intellectually stimulating without dog shit drooly troll site ever, and thank you.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:25 PM (DMcz+)

409 Rassmussen, D=+3 today. There is something called the ecological fallacy--that what is true for one level of analysis is true for a lower level of analysis. E.g. National and district. Sometimes this is true, sometimes not. Generally bad economic times or wars move things but neither is present.

Second, early voting in many states dampens trends in those states.

For predicting House races, with scanty polls in many, people like RCP are trying to use the past to predict the future. A lot of people are assuming that the sheer amount of money that ACT Blue showered on Dems will win those close races.

Third, believe it or not rain on election day in some places does tend to hinder Democrat turnout.

Last, people keep forgetting about independents. I don't think that too many nationwide polling folks have a great grip on who will vote on Tuesday in specific states and districts. Samples of 300-500 in a CD is basically garbage in close races as the error margin is too large.

What it depends upon is the GOTV for the remaining votes in early voting states and imperative in states that do not have it. GOTV is worth about 5 pct points on average for a candidate.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2018 09:25 PM (ROzyM)

410 the rifle i'm willing to sell?

no, not that one either.

i am, however, taking names for the list of folks who might be interested in receiving random disbursements from the estate, that might entitle them to attempt recovery of objects lost in the accident, assuming they could be found in the muck and mire under all that water.

Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at November 04, 2018 09:26 PM (Dagiw)

411 'Has freaked returned with a report, yet?'

I can report that a good time was had by all and the back of my legs hurt like hell. Also, I made Breitbart, see #345.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:26 PM (UdKB7)

412 a. It doesn't but trends do matter.

b. Agree totally, this is where the polls will be right or wrong, turnout model. And it's where I think we have a shot, because everyone KNOWS Ds are more pumped than Rs. One of my guiding principles in life is when everyone knows something is absolutely going to happen, it probably won't.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (suxaw)

I just get annoyed with political polling. I have a masters in a statistics-heavy field, and am very aware of how shitty statistics is at predicting things when you're dealing with close calls.

Much less political polling, which involves so much more guess work then actual, normal, statistics that it's kind of an insult to statistics (already a wishy-washy math field) to call political polling statistics.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:26 PM (GBteo)

413 This is my wifle,
This is my gun,
This is for fighting
and this is for fun.

huh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh.


The funny thing is that "rifle" is actually a contraction of "rifle-barreled gun." That is what you will find in old documents. I think that "rifle" is etmologically linked to "ripple" and "riffle," so technically a "rifle" should indicate one of the grooves making up the rifling in the barrel.

So, despite what the Corp may think, they are both guns....

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM (bZ7mE)

414 Yeah any poll older than 2 weeks is basically garbage.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM (suxaw)

415 Using this, our hero was able to determine what gun had killed her. This is 1939.

Go!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (+y/Ru)


Very pistol, invented 1877.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM (mS+Df)

416
Just a super cat.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2018 09:24 PM (DMUuz)
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So glad to hear that. WeaselWoman and I were talking about your adoption again the other day, very nicely done. Maybe a pic for the pet thread? Or the gun thread?

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM (ORKC1)

417 373 yep. Body armor, gas masks etc just in case the local constabulary ever decides to go full retard nazi progressive.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 04, 2018 09:24 PM (cCxiu)

Yes that's the primary reason but I was thinking that they may attempt to put some restrictions on purchasing in the future so that's why I asked . Get it while you can.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM (2DOZq)

418 386
Weasel, I'm glad you didn't ask about what one handgun we would never
sell. I would have to break it down by caliber and then agonize about
which ones in each category.

Posted by: JTB at November 04, 2018 09:20 PM (V+03K)

Hahahahaha! JTB is the Man!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM (UsCnO)

419 Niters, Ben Had.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 09:28 PM (fbgDX)

420 That's not to say I don't think we could see a Blue Wave this election day. Or a R pick up. Or any other outcome.

Just that I wouldn't rely on political polls to form my opinion on that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:28 PM (GBteo)

421 I've been waxing my chitinous exoskeleton, yes.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:18 PM


Mine's aerospace alloys, and I have Huma wax and polish it.

Posted by: Hillary!! at November 04, 2018 09:28 PM (DMUuz)

422 I have a Polish police IIIa kevlar vest that I picked up from keepshooting.com just because it was cheap. They frequently get surplus kevlar from overseas. I recommend getting on their mailing list. They often have cool stuff come in.

I'd like to get a plate carrier and some good plates but I haven't had the budget and I really can't imagine needing it and not being able to pick some up off the ground.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:29 PM (yQpMk)

423 You do realize by this time yesterday it was an hour later than this time, right? And the ONT would be up by now.

Because, Destroying Sanity Time.

Posted by: mindful webworker's war on clock abuse at November 04, 2018 09:29 PM (sNBsc)

424 Third, believe it or not rain on election day in some places does tend to hinder Democrat turnout.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2018 09:25 PM (ROzyM)

It was raining in Lake County, CA (a Democrat Stronghold) on Election Day 2016, Trump was able to come within 3 points or so of winning it.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 09:29 PM (F0Iqf)

425
Excuse me ... would you have a moment to let me tell you about the everlasting salvation of the Ruger PC Carbine ?
I bought one in .40 about 10 years ago (the original run). I love it. I was asked by several people while shooting it out at Range 14 at Ft Dix if it was suppressed. The bolt cycling was louder than the muzzle blast (at least that was what I was told). Several people offered to buy it that day.

It is still one of my favorites to shoot. I am interested in the new version for the magazine conversion kit.

Posted by: elliot at November 04, 2018 09:29 PM (1PAtI)

426 I can also report that every time the press got mentioned there was a big BOOO! I looked back at the press stand and they all had sour looks on their faces.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:30 PM (UdKB7)

427 Might sell my rifle, but never sell my spear and magic helmet!

Posted by: Elmer at November 04, 2018 09:30 PM (giesC)

428 394 . . . Or, as an alternative, we need to start taxing speech at a nickel a word. At least, why aren't these traitors consistent?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
________

I would like to see background checks and licensing before any lefty is allowed to invoke the First, Fourth, Fifth, or Eighth Amendment.

Posted by: Furious George at November 04, 2018 09:31 PM (rDq8D)

429
They could buy 1000 ads and it won't make a
difference. King Co will vote 80-20 for it and the rest of the state
will vote 70-30 against it, and it will still pass. Basically how every
election in WA state works.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 08:57 PM (suxaw)

This. Although if the Red state Washingtonians would step up, they would actually outnumber the Lefties of Seattle. But they watch the TV news and think that is the way people here think. No need to vote. Waste of time. That is what they think.

No, it is the way the Lefties in Seattle think, because they own the TV news on all channels.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:31 PM (UsCnO)

430 Hey, you know them polls? The ones the left/media/deepstate control? In the Navy we called their methods 'gun-decking', a more sanitized description than 'trick-fcuking" of the numbers.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2018 09:31 PM (zLDYs)

431 I can also report that every time the press got mentioned there was a big BOOO! I looked back at the press stand and they all had sour looks on their faces.
Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:30 PM (UdKB7)


Well, good. If they don't like it, then maybe they should stop being terrible all the time.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:31 PM (mS+Df)

432 Using this, our hero was able to determine what gun had killed her. This is 1939.

Go!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:22 PM (+y/Ru)

Very pistol, invented 1877.

-
Good guess, but no.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:31 PM (+y/Ru)

433 I just get annoyed with political polling. I have a masters in a statistics-heavy field, and am very aware of how shitty statistics is at predicting things when you're dealing with close calls.

Much less political polling, which involves so much more guess work then actual, normal, statistics that it's kind of an insult to statistics (already a wishy-washy math field) to call political polling statistics.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:26 PM (GBteo)

___

Having taken enough stats myself I kinda agree.

My beef is finding people to poll. Area code portability has made the phone poll model unworkable. Which is why (and I know I'm a broken record with this) national polls in 2016 were on the money, but state polls weren't. Ask 1000 people in the US randomly who will you vote for and you can derive the overall national vote.

But try finding 1000 people in PA or MI. Do you call 1000 Michigan area codes? Good luck since 250 of them live out of Michigan. And then laughably try polling a CD in an urban area that has 5 area codes in the CD and each area code is part of 5 other CDs. It's literally imposible to get a good sample of people. And then on top of that the response rate for polls is about 1%.

So call 10,000 to get 100 people to answer out of which maybe 50 are people you need to talk to. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:32 PM (suxaw)

434 Maybe a pic for the pet thread? Or the gun thread?
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM


I tried to get one yesterday of her napping on my belly, but the lighting sucked, and today up on the window OP, but she kept moving, and I didn't get a decent shot. I'll keep trying.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2018 09:33 PM (DMUuz)

435 Hint: Handgun commonly used during the Spanish Civil War.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:33 PM (+y/Ru)

436
Was the new firearm all gunked up with cosmoline grease? If so a thorough cleaning and lubing should be done. YMMV.




Posted by: Under Fire at November 04, 2018 09:09 PM (r9UYA)

It was a new AR. Clean enough to eat off of it.

Shoot 50 rounds and wrap some bacon around the barrel.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:33 PM (UsCnO)

437 Because, Destroying Sanity Time.
Posted by: mindful webworker's war on clock abuse at November 04, 2018 09:29 PM (sNBsc)

......

That's pretty much my state of mind at 9:00 ESTDST

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:34 PM (DMcz+)

438 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:31 PM (+y/Ru)

A flintlock

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:34 PM (2DOZq)

439 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:31 PM (+y/Ru)

A Mauser?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:35 PM (2DOZq)

440 re: Rain on election day

GA-06 had torrential rain on election day for the special election. May have had some effect. Which is really funny when you think about it and how random and arbitrary election results can be due to weather or other random things like that.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:35 PM (suxaw)

441 69 Minutes doing a hit piece on ARs as soon as the football game is over.

And me with my first AR scheduled to arrive on Election Day...

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2018 09:36 PM (Mh0FI)

442 You too, Duncan?

Been trying to get a decent pic of Momi also.

Now, she's playing around in the bathroom.

Later on this evening, she'll attack our feet while we try to sleep.

Posted by: SMH at November 04, 2018 09:36 PM (fbgDX)

443 Hint: Handgun commonly used during the Spanish Civil War.

Astra?

Not exactly "light" but close...

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 09:36 PM (bZ7mE)

444 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:31 PM (+y/Ru)

Astra

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 04, 2018 09:36 PM (2DOZq)

445 Hint: Handgun commonly used during the Spanish Civil War.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:33 PM (+y/Ru)


This is a really good riddle.

I don't know the answer or anything (except a guess from that hint: Star made pistols in Spain since before WWI), but it's a really good riddle.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:37 PM (mS+Df)

446 Ah. Star Bonifacio Echeverria SA.

So, a Star Model A?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:37 PM (yQpMk)

447 Might sell my rifle, but never sell my spear and magic helmet!
Posted by: Elmer


But you might get an arrow to the knee.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2018 09:37 PM (aPsQQ)

448 It's funny how the left has this hard on for the AR15. Do they think if it was banned, mass killers would just say aww shucks and not find something else to use?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:38 PM (suxaw)

449 436 Maybe a pic for the pet thread? Or the gun thread?
Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM

......

I got one of doggeh lickin kitteh's butt, NSFW. Kitteh smacked doggeh up side the head. Solved..

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:38 PM (DMcz+)

450 More Americans are beaten to death with fists each year than are killed by ARs.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:39 PM (yQpMk)

451 It's funny how the left has this hard on for the AR15. Do they think if it was banned, mass killers would just say aww shucks and not find something else to use?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:38 PM (suxaw)


No. It's just a scary black gun - an easy sell to prohibit.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at November 04, 2018 09:39 PM (T71PA)

452 "Things are breaking late for the Dems."

Lamps, ashtrays, all kinds of things.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:39 PM (mS+Df)

453 Most intellectually stimulating without dog shit drooly troll site ever, and thank you.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:25 PM (DMcz+)

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Headline: "Smart Military Blog Damned with Faint Praise: Film @ 11"


Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at November 04, 2018 09:39 PM (Dagiw)

454 "Things are breaking late for the Dems."

Lamps, ashtrays, all kinds of things.



I'm looking forward to the tears of unfathomable sadness Tuesday night.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:40 PM (yQpMk)

455 "Things are breaking late for the Dems."

Lamps, ashtrays, all kinds of things.


Their grip on reality...

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 09:40 PM (bZ7mE)

456 I see that Bill Wynn got a new name.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 09:40 PM (F0Iqf)

457 Hint: Handgun commonly used during the Spanish Civil War.

Astra?

Not exactly "light" but close...
Posted by: Grey Fox

Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! Astra means stars in Latin.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 04, 2018 09:41 PM (+y/Ru)

458 I wonder if hot tears of impotent rage are more piquant though.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:41 PM (yQpMk)

459 We need fist control obviously.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:41 PM (suxaw)

460 Did MUMR weasel its way in again?

Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 09:41 PM (2na8x)

461 Rain does that and there is some research out there about it.

Prior to about 2006-8, polling was pretty accurate for some outfits. However, the whole cord cutting, call screening, etc. was already causing some pollsters to tear their hair out. At the same time, costs of telecom due to VOIP and computers making calls near free resulted in a lot of crappy pollsters springing up.

Thus, non-response bias is a big problem when you are trying to poll a congressional district--it gets worse with cell phones of young cord cutters often not reflecting the CD of where they are living.

There is also an increase in people lying about voting or being likely to vote. It has darn near made the old National Election Survey data useless with 20 percent over reporting of voting when they did not--the last that I checked. The only remedy is to actually pull voting records to eliminate the over reporting.

BTW, there is also a well known weekend effect that Dems do better on election polling during weekends than Reps. Reps do better during week days.

A wildcard is how much does Trump's rallies move the population--usually figure about 5-10 people per attendee hearing about the event--thus a 15000 person turnout could potentially affect 75000 to 150000. It would be interesting to see if this mobilized casual voters, particularly those that tend to vote in the general and not in the midterms.

The Dems have been spending money like water on campaign flyers and TV ads but I am not so sure that in a TV system that allows almost infinite choices that the TV ads are that effective, overuse of campaign flyers also turns voters off just like constant phone calls.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (ROzyM)

462 452
NYT live polling also shows Pete Sessions losing by 4 in Texas. Beto leads in that district by 3-4 pts, as well.



Things are breaking late for the Dems.

Posted by: Ghidorah at November 04, 2018 09:38 PM (wWPNi)

You've been masturbating again while you post, correct?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (UsCnO)

463 463 Did MUMR weasel its way in again?
Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 09:41 PM (2na8x)
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*ahem*

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (MVjcR)

464 Hey the 2016 poll troll is back!! I wondered what happened to it.

Posted by: IC at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (4lu7W)

465 450 It's funny how the left has this hard on for the AR15. Do they think if it was banned, mass killers would just say aww shucks and not find something else to use?

They wouldn't know an AR15 from a Steyr.

The reason why they want to ban the AR15 is because they know Normals love them. If Normals loved lever action rifles, then the Left would ban those.

They hate you so they attack the things that you love.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (lD3vL)

466 Anyone who sells any weapon is a commie-pinko-bedwetter.

Unless you are selling your pristine Remington 1100 12 gauge to me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (wYseH)

467 Very pistol, invented 1877.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Certainly an excellent guess.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2018 09:43 PM (/dN1M)

468 I wonder if hot tears of impotent rage are more piquant though.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:41 PM (yQpMk)


We'll have ample opportunity to try both and see for ourselves!

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:43 PM (mS+Df)

469 Things are breaking late for the Dems.

Posted by: Ghidorah at November 04, 2018 09:38 PM (wWPNi)

---
so's your Mom...

if you call Servpro stat, after the train is done, you can probably keep from staining the sofa, the easy chair, your bed, your parent's bed, the stairway carpet down to your basement, your sister's bed, the patio furniture, etc...

hope your Soros check covers it all., or will you be doing the prep w*rk orally, to save money and get your rocks off?

Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at November 04, 2018 09:43 PM (Dagiw)

470 469 Anyone who sells any weapon is a commie-pinko-bedwetter.

Unless you are selling your pristine Remington 1100 12 gauge to me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (wYseH)
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A left-wing-commie-pinko-bedwetter!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:44 PM (MVjcR)

471 Hopefully Abram's Free Shit Army will get high and stay home on Tuesday.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:44 PM (UdKB7)

472 No love for the Ruger here, apparently. Got back from the store and expected to read something.....

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 04, 2018 09:44 PM (FTlwv)

473 Thus, non-response bias is a big problem when you are trying to poll a congressional district--it gets worse with cell phones of young cord cutters often not reflecting the CD of where they are living.

There is also an increase in people lying about voting or being likely to vote. It has darn near made the old National Election Survey data useless with 20 percent over reporting of voting when they did not--the last that I checked. The only remedy is to actually pull voting records to eliminate the over reporting.

___

Part of it I think is people see all over their social media feeds how EVERYONE is excited to vote. So someone calls and says hey man are you voting? You of course say FUCK YEAH I'M VOTING. After all you don't want to be the uncool kid who isn't voting while all the cool kids are doing it, right?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:44 PM (suxaw)

474 BZ to Grey Fox and Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2018 09:44 PM (mS+Df)

475 Troll guy does not really know what live polling actually means. It is an untried method that relies on little known Siena college which is fairly good for the NE, NY area but not really known for its polling expertise elsewhere. Academic poll groups are generally some of the lesser performing ones outside of their home turf. Don't know how to weight likely voters is the culprit.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2018 09:44 PM (ROzyM)

476 NYT live polling also shows Pete Sessions losing by 4 in Texas

I don't think Pete Sessions even knows where his district is because he has been gone so long.

If it wasn't for the gray haired ladies who swoon over him, he would have (and should have been) swept out in the Primaries.

Pete Sessions is hardly a conservative, and isn't a Texan.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 04, 2018 09:45 PM (lD3vL)

477 Unless you are selling your pristine Remington 1100 12 gauge to me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Had one, my father's. House was burgled while I was away in the service, so stolen. Along with my Fox Model B side-by-side 20 ga.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2018 09:45 PM (/dN1M)

478 nood ONT

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 04, 2018 09:45 PM (GBteo)

479 We need fist control obviously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 04, 2018 09:41 PM (suxaw)

This. I've decided to ban these dangerous weapons from the streets of London. All Londoners without a "Scary Weapon Liscence" must report to the NHS to be disarmed within the next 30 days or they can look forward to a lifetime in the Grey Bar Hotel.

Posted by: Sadiq Kahn, Mayor of London at November 04, 2018 09:45 PM (F0Iqf)

480
345 Hey I made Breitbart! I'm the guy on the left in the red hat.

https://tinyurl.com/y8t2sbpk

Posted by: freaked



There's like 50 people with red hats in that pic.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Creator of the at November 04, 2018 09:46 PM (yxTdI)

481 Unless you are selling your pristine Remington 1100 12 gauge to me.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (wYseH)

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whichever one of those you want, you *still* can't have it....

drop your name in the bucket and hope for the best.

sending me random bottles of spirits or cash for booze speeds up my departure as well.

think of it as buying a lottery ticket.

Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at November 04, 2018 09:46 PM (Dagiw)

482 *ahem*

Apologies. No insult intended.

Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 09:46 PM (2na8x)

483 There is something known as Socially Acceptable Answers and it bedevils pollsters as they have to ask multiple questions from different perspectives to get a handle on it. That depresses the complete response rate as these drop off after longer questioning time.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2018 09:46 PM (ROzyM)

484 Okey-dokey, gun fans. That's it for this week. Stop by next Sunday, same time, same URL!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:47 PM (MVjcR)

485 483


345 Hey I made Breitbart! I'm the guy on the left in the red hat.



https://tinyurl.com/y8t2sbpk



Posted by: freaked





There's like 50 people with red hats in that pic.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Creator of the at November 04, 2018 09:46 PM (yxTdI)

OPSEC

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:47 PM (UsCnO)

486 'There's like 50 people with red hats in that pic'

Yeah but only one is me.

Posted by: freaked at November 04, 2018 09:47 PM (UdKB7)

487 Don't forget, G, to cash that Soros check on Monday. Deposit it, and it will bounce on Tuesday.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:02 PM (UsCnO)


Pssst. Are you going to tell him that is not how you spell "Giardia"?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 04, 2018 09:47 PM (mUa7G)

488 482 *ahem*

Apologies. No insult intended.
Posted by: Infidel at November 04, 2018 09:46 PM (2na8x)
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None taken! Just can't help myself at this point!

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:47 PM (MVjcR)

489 So, despite what the Corp may think, they are both guns....
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 04, 2018 09:27 PM (bZ7mE)

.......

My DI would differ. Painfully.

Posted by: Smaug at November 04, 2018 09:48 PM (DMcz+)

490 The reason why they want to ban the AR15 is because they know Normals love them. If Normals loved lever action rifles, then the Left would ban those.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (lD3vL)

They're already in the process of banning lever-actions in the UK and Australia.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2018 09:48 PM (F0Iqf)

491 Commercial .308 ammo can slap-fire in an M-14.

My understanding is that the M-14/M-1A have a firing pin that is loose in the bolt, not held in place by a spring, and this is part of the original design of the M-14.

Mil-spec 7.62x51 mm has thick metal on the primers to resist accidental discharge. Commercial
primers have thinner metal for reliable ignition with commercial-type firing systems.

When the M-14 bolt chambers a round, the firing pin bounces off the primer. Commercial ammo has a small but real chance of igniting.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 04, 2018 09:49 PM (t5m5e)

492 450 It's funny how the left has this hard on for
the AR15. Do they think if it was banned, mass killers would just say
aww shucks and not find something else to use?



They wouldn't know an AR15 from a Steyr.



The reason why they want to ban the AR15 is because they know
Normals love them. If Normals loved lever action rifles, then the
Left would ban those.



They hate you so they attack the things that you love.



Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at November 04, 2018 09:42 PM (lD3vL)


This.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 04, 2018 09:50 PM (9Om/r)

493 whichever one of those you want, you *still* can't have it....

drop your name in the bucket and hope for the best.

sending me random bottles of spirits or cash for booze speeds up my departure as well.

think of it as buying a lottery ticket.


Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at November 04, 2018 09:46 PM (Dagiw)

that trick worked for Hyman Roth in Godfather II. We are on to you, red!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2018 09:50 PM (UsCnO)

494 Hey guys, thank you so much for the tips on getting competent with my .357. I'm one of those woerdos who reads the entire thread.


Dawg, I feel your pain. My oldest kid is a Coug and LOVES it out there in Pullman.

Both my boys vote. They both shoot. And they both love our country. I would be proud as hell
If one of them joined the military. But they will choose their own paths.


Once again, I so appreciate so
Many tips and ideas. Thank you

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 09:51 PM (PkVlr)

495 Posted by: nurse ratched at November 04, 2018 09:51 PM (PkVlr)
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Thanks for stopping by, nurse ratched! Hope to see you again next week.

Posted by: Weasel at November 04, 2018 09:52 PM (MVjcR)

496 Hint: Handgun commonly used during the Spanish Civil War.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

ASTRA M1921 (400)

Posted by: 30-06 afficianado at November 04, 2018 09:53 PM (AQxLS)

497 What is the mass of a m14 firing pin? Can it really generate enough impact to set off a primer without a hammer strike?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:54 PM (yQpMk)

498 I am in CA. Like many people here, I made sure I bought some long guns before 2014. Now, by law all transactions are permanently recorded in a state database.

I am reluctant to buy any more guns now. Anybody else of the same mind?

(It has occurred to me that the state may very well have kept unofficial records illegally pre-2014.)

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 04, 2018 09:55 PM (t5m5e)

499 CBD @ 469- Remington 100 12ga? No way, I gave 165 yankee dollars for it new. Still got it too.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2018 09:57 PM (zLDYs)

500 497 What is the mass of a m14 firing pin? Can it really generate enough impact to set off a primer without a hammer strike?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:54 PM (yQpMk)

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Mass I don't know.
Do a web search for M-14 slap fire.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 04, 2018 09:57 PM (t5m5e)

501 What is the mass of a m14 firing pin? Can it really generate enough impact to set off a primer without a hammer strike?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 04, 2018 09:54 PM (yQpMk)



Obviously a custom tungsten pin is what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 04, 2018 09:58 PM (1g7ch)

502
Obviously a custom tungsten pin is what the doctor ordered.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 04, 2018 09:58 PM (1g7ch)

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Joking, right? Tungsten is way denser than steel.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 04, 2018 10:05 PM (t5m5e)

503 Folks,

I have worked in elections at the local, state, and national level in the past. I then went to grad school, done published research regarding voting, etc. I can tell you all sorts of historical examples of elections, realignment, recall all kinds of research on elections such as the rain effect above, etc. I used to be an election junkie even when I changed fields. I am not so much anymore.

The polling is getting increasingly problematic at the local and state levels. A number of crappy firms have entered the field with little track record and who knows is doing their interviews (some have apparently been outsourced overseas). Some have toyed with all kinds of models to overcome problems but we are not there yet.

But, without decent polls in a specific race over time, reliable information on what the early voting numbers mean, without knowing all of the particulars--candidate quality, news coverage, demographic shifts in voters, ad strategies, incumbency, GOTV, etc. I would be reluctant to call a single House race within the margin of error.

The news media should really do the same as most of them suffer from making wishes on the basis of Team Blue. Few years ago, you could actually get some rational information from the news; those days are gone.

Senate races are a bit easier and Repubs will make some gains--how much depends on who flips those very close races.

Dems seem to be on track to gain some gubernatorial seats but these are idiosyncratic based on state by state particulars.

In the House, the Dems will gain some seats at the minimum 10-12 seats with a max probably around 30. I would not be surprised by any result between 10 and 30. Call the middle projection of 15 seats for the Dems as my wag.

You will know if east coast races start showing Dem flips but it will take longer to call House races than President or Senate races. In my day, I knew the bellweather precincts in the counties and what the normal vote would be from those. As a result, I could usually call a race 1-2 hours before the media got around to it by using something like the AOS decision desk via calls to county clerks or pre stationed folks who got me the counts asap. Nowadays, I simply tune it out.

As for me, going to bed is the best rather than listening to blather from the media and has-been campaign consultants like Rove.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2018 10:09 PM (ROzyM)

504 The M-14 was what we had in basic and ait in '67. It was a wonderful machine. I shot expert with it and I wish I had one, to this day...

Posted by: ChrisP at November 04, 2018 10:12 PM (jT+MY)

505 Nurse Ratched,

Re the .357 problem--one is to handload or buy boutique ammo (expensive). The other is to use a heavier revolver or resort to porting your barrel (which creates new issues). The physics of the matter will make recovery from firing a .357 far different than from a .38+p. You will have greater muzzle rise, you will have more muzzle flash and recoil, and you will have a bit longer time to get back on the sights. Padded shooting gloves and good recoil absorbing grips can help especially in increasing the length of your practice sessions.

I use Titegroup to load .357s to something like .38 +P+ at around 1200-1250 fps for a 125 gr. XTP bullet. More than enough to do what you need to and without the blast that the full bore 125 gr HP at 1400 have.

Another is to go with 100-110 grain bullets--I found laser like accuracy with the old Powrball @100 grains or Corbons 110 gr. HP. I haven't personally used them but others report that Hornady 140 XTPs aren't bad to fire in this caliber either.

If you are hunting, then the 158 gr. SWC can be pretty good medicine and lighter recoiling if you use lead bullets with loads to match it.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2018 10:18 PM (ROzyM)

506 Joking, right? Tungsten is way denser than steel.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 04, 2018 10:05 PM (t5m5e)

Just don't keep it at the same address.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 04, 2018 10:44 PM (1g7ch)

507 Just don't keep it at the same address.

Are you thinking of uranium?

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2018 11:47 PM (lK7fO)

508 If you shoot a wabbit with that wifle, there won't be much left of the wabbit.

Posted by: Richard at November 05, 2018 07:38 AM (hUZo5)

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