Saturday Evening Movie Thread 09-08-2018 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Ethan Hawke is a Twat

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"Now we have the problem that they tell us 'Logan' is a great movie. Well, it's a great superhero movie. It still involves people in tights with metal coming out of their hands. It's not Bresson. It’s not Bergman, but they talk about it like it is. I went to see Logan cause everyone was like, 'This is a great movie' and I was like, 'Really? No, this is a fine superhero movie. There's a difference but big business doesn't think there’s a difference. Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it."

-Ethan Hawke

I'm not the biggest fan of James Mangold's film Logan. I think it over-relies on previous iterations of the character in order to create its emotional response from the audience. It doesn't stand on its own as well as I think it should. It's still a fine film, though.

That critique, however, does not dismiss the movie because it is about a man who has claws in between his knuckles. What kind of pretentious moron dismisses a film because it contains fantastical elements that are not the actual point of the story? A movie that marvels at explosions like Michael Bay's worst instincts? Sure, that isn't a movie about anything. But a movie that strives to be about the effects of growing old and losing your place in the world? It's suddenly not worth serious consideration because it involves things that aren't real?
Ethan Hawke is a complete twat.


Genre Storytelling

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You know who was probably the greatest genre storyteller ever?

William Shakespeare.

The man wrote in a wide variety of genres from historical dramas, to sex comedies, to revenge fantasies, to ghost stories, and even drug infused trips into madness. He dealt with wizards, magic, and fairies all the time.

I sure hope Ethan Hawke swears off appearing in any production of A Midsummer's Night Dream or Macbeth for the rest of his life, or else he'll be an unmitigated twat.

Have you ever heard of a storyteller named Stanley Kubrick? The man worked war movies, science fiction, horror, thriller, and dystopian fantasy. He dipped his hands into the fantastical more than once, and his movies are all worthwhile as movies, not as genre exercises.

Oh, and Ingmar Bergman? One of the filmmakers that Ethan Hawke referenced in his quote? Bergman made a film and stage production of the silly little piece by Mozart called The Magic Flute which is one of the most delightful films I've ever sat through. Oh, and it deals with dragons, fairies, and magic freaking flutes.

I take it all back. Ethan Hawke isn't a twat. He's not a complete twat or an unmitigated twat.

He's a jackass of a twat that gives twats a bad name.


What the Hell was That?

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I read that quote up above from Ethan Hawke and it enraged me in ways that I find confusing after it had passed. Hawke had shown that he's not actually terribly sophisticated even though his sentiment is designed to make him appear that way. He demonstrated with that word salad that he doesn't actually understand storytelling at all. He's shown that he's an unimaginative mental midget who can't connect with people who are different from him. He's made it plain for all the world to see that he is so unimaginative that he can't look through narrative conventions to view the humanity hidden beneath unless it's all stripped away and he's just left with the obvious message beneath.

This is actually something that I remember arguing about with a professor in college. We were talking about some upcoming movie and the director in charge. He said that he was worried about the quality of that film because the director's previous work was just genre stuff.

This was a man whose opinions on film I respected. He's one of the first people to encourage me formally to look beyond the movies of my youth and discover films and stories of a wider breadth and depth, and he was dismissing anything that dealt with genre off hand. It was as I considered what he said that I realized something: Everything is a genre.


Everything is Genre

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As a quick little exercise, imagine a movie that someone might say has no genre. When I do it (or, when I did this for the first time over ten years ago), I thought of the movie In the Bedroom. It's a small movie from the first decade of this century about a family dealing with family troubles including a death. As I considered it, I realized that it, too, belonged to a genre: the family drama. It had its general rules that all such movies generally adhere to. The genre has its formulaic and stereotypical elements that come and go depending on the quality of the individual story being told. It's just like any science fiction, fantasy, comic book, or horror film. It can as easily fall into its own routines just like any other genre piece without actually saying anything about people.

Stories like the family genre have greater innate respectability from people because its trappings aren't as obviously entertaining. They tend to appeal to a different set of emotions from pure excitement or wonder or terror like some other genre pieces. But does that mean that the Lifetime movie about the woman moving back home from the big city is inherently more informative about the human condition than a movie about a man who dresses like a bat and tries to punch a man dressed like a clown?


Pretentiousness

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What kills me is Hawke's obvious pretentiousness. He can't be bothered with genre filmmaking in serious conversation. It's an odd thing for a man who's stared in terrible horror movies (The Purge, Sinister), a terrible vampire movie (Daybreakers) and even an apparently really good time travel movie (Predestination). I'm sure if someone were to ask him his opinion of Bergman's The Magic Flute, he would wax poetic about it's virtues without making any connection to his dismissal of Logan because it's about a man with claws as opposed to Mozart's work about a magic freaking flute.

What does this tell me? For one, that Ethan Hawke is probably neither incredibly intelligent or self-aware, and that he is dismissive of some of the movies that have paid for most of his lifestyle (he's probably not making a whole bunch of money working with Richard Linklater all the time). Hawke is a microcosm of Hollywood in general.

He's happy to make money off the dumb masses who watch him chase funny named ghosts, but don't give those masses any credit for any amount of taste. Sure, Logan had its qualities, but did you see those dumb claws?


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
The Nun
Peppermint
God Bless the Broken Road

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Hard Rain

Movies I Saw This Week:
The Secret of NIMH (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) Poster blurb: "A well balanced children's story that works surprisingly well." [Netflix DVD]
Batman: The Dark Knight Returns (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "The first part is kind of fantastic, and the second part less so. Overall, very good." [Netflix DVD]
Black Panther (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) "Unfocused storytelling combined with terrible action sequences, and moments of actual interest come together to leave Marvel's worst movie." [Netflix Instant]
Superman Returns (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "Underrated, but flawed." [Personal Collection]
Silence (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Possibly Scorsese's best film. A remarkable and heart-rending experience." [Personal Collection]


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1 Movie sign!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:18 PM (kQs4Y)

2 Movie thread!!
Special gray boxes!!
Party time!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:19 PM (feaxc)

3
Dedicated to...

Burt Reynolds.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:20 PM (Tf31n)

4 Ethan has a point. Superhero movies are mostly a piss-poor genre, with bloated budgets and silly plots.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 07:21 PM (1UZdv)

5
Ethan Hawke is a very limited actor. Good actor, but, like most actors, he offers ONE personality, their own, to the characters he plays.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:21 PM (Tf31n)

6 Yeah, Predestination was great, but let us not forget Ethan (a) cheated on Uma Thurmon, and (b) played Jolly the Pimp in the excrevescent Valerian.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:22 PM (kQs4Y)

7 Now we have the problem that they tell us 'Logan' is a great movie. Well, it's a great superhero movie.
....

It only won awards because of racism. And sexism.
And mutantism.

Posted by: Serena Williams at September 08, 2018 07:22 PM (FRlvP)

8 What is a genre? Can you get salve to make it go away?

Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 07:22 PM (zLDYs)

9 All the true sophisticates love superhero movies.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 08, 2018 07:23 PM (U3075)

10 Sooth, yup.

*Very* late in his career, Burt Reynolds did a cameo on The King Of Queens as Doug Heffernan's old high school football coach.

He was great and funny, as always.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:24 PM (feaxc)

11
Also: the very long tv ad for A Star Is Born makes me a) feel like I've seen the movie already, and b) want to avoid it.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:24 PM (Tf31n)

12 Burt Reynolds acted well enough to make Sally Fields desirable.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 08, 2018 07:24 PM (hyuyC)

13 I'm about 15 minutes into Deadpool II. I love that the opening fight scene is set to Dolly Parton's 9 to 5.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:24 PM (kQs4Y)

14 I liked Ethan Hawke in Gattaca.

I don't know anything about his opinions on things, but I'd watch the hell out of Gattaca any day and twice on Sundays. There's nothing bad about that movie, and the musical score is stunning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldkSV0gElxg

Hell, I'll watch it tonight. I'll do it, too, don't try me.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 07:24 PM (y87Qq)

15 GATTACA was extremely good.

But not because of Ethan Hawke.

Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 07:25 PM (FRlvP)

16
He was great and funny, as always.

Yep. I remember that episode, since I'm a fan of King of Queens.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:25 PM (Tf31n)

17
1. "Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it."
-- Ethan Hawke


2. "Ethan Hawke quit being a Knicks fan when he stopped getting free tickets"
-- Yahoo Sports, May 15, 2018

https://sports.yahoo.com/
ethan-hawke-quit-knicks-fan-stopped-getting-free-tickets-230959289.html

Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 07:25 PM (786Ro)

18 hogmartin, help me out here. What is Gattaca???

From what I've heard it seems to be a film that spans 9 different genres and plot types...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:25 PM (feaxc)

19 You know what word is not in the Hawke quote? Genre. But, nevermind. You keep ranting about how he turned up his nose at genre flicks.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 08, 2018 07:26 PM (U3075)

20

I'm about 15 minutes into Deadpool II. I love that the opening fight scene is set to Dolly Parton's 9 to 5.



They did THAT again?
They did that in the first Deadpool, with a different song.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:26 PM (Tf31n)

21 Gattaca was a terrific film about being more than the sum of one's DNA.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:27 PM (kQs4Y)

22 The Dark Knight Returns is actually part of a trilogy. It all connects to Commisioner Gordon. You look at the picture of him and his wife, or actually when you see his wife I forget which, that gets shown in like one scene of Part One or Part Two and it's the other police officer from the other DC Animated movie Batman: First Year.

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 07:27 PM (cAnNx)

23 6 Yeah, Predestination was great, but let us not forget Ethan (a) cheated on Uma Thurmon, and (b) played Jolly the Pimp in the excrevescent Valerian.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:22 PM (kQs4Y)

Excrevescent? Plop plop fizz fizz!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 07:27 PM (NWiLs)

24 Soothsayer, yup. Some great episodes of that show. IMHO Jerry Stiller was *better* on KoQ than Seinfeld. Plus he got his son Ben to play his own father once on an episode.

The show also had some great cameos from Lou Ferrigno (as the Heffernan's too-nice, overly PC neighbor, Gavin McLeod, and Brian Cranston (!).

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:28 PM (feaxc)

25 The movie GATTACA is excellent. The had the potential to be pretentious twattery but instead is one of my favorites. The soundtrack is haunting.

https://youtu.be/8ccvv9NhloI

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 08, 2018 07:28 PM (rnAwa)

26 Now we have the problem that they tell us 'Logan' is a great movie. Well, it's a great superhero movie.
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Jeez.

So Ethan is really arguing about which sub-genre of Sci Fi is declasse.

Yeah, douche.

Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 07:28 PM (FRlvP)

27 Ethan, not every movie can suck as much as Boyhood.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 08, 2018 07:29 PM (o3AYq)

28 19 You know what word is not in the Hawke quote? Genre. But, nevermind. You keep ranting about how he turned up his nose at genre flicks.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 08, 2018 07:26 PM (U3075)

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Well, he dismisses an entire genre and gives his reasons, which amount to no more than "not real people". So yeah, he's still a that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 08, 2018 07:29 PM (rhlLd)

29 Oh Come ON DAYBREAKERS was a good movie, Predestination was terrible and Now DR WHO can both share the same plots

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 08, 2018 07:29 PM (dKiJG)

30 I owe an apology to the movieguy from last weekend. I was way too blunt about things that I would never watch. My apologies, I appreciate all content brought to the blog.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 07:29 PM (5kTP+)

31
Gattaca vs The Island?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:29 PM (Tf31n)

32 Some films seem to resist being classifiable in any genre at all.

I'm thinking of both Gattaca and Magnolia...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:30 PM (feaxc)

33 hogmartin, help me out here. What is Gattaca???

From what I've heard it seems to be a film that spans 9 different genres and plot types...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:25 PM (feaxc)


It's pretty simple: Ethan Hawke is one of the last generation of people who are born with their genetics left to chance. He always wanted to be an astronaut, but he can't because he wasn't chosen by a genetecist from the best of his parents' genes like his younger brother was. This makes him sad.

He meets Jude Law who is a GMO who got paralyzed while out of the country. His DNA checks out but he's broken. Now Ethan Hawke has the DNA to bluff his way into following his dream. Except he still has to do it with his crappy loser body. Awesomeness ensues. Watch it. It's really good.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 07:31 PM (y87Qq)

34 I was enjoying a pleasant beer in the local brewery when two guys with fedoras walk in. One of them is wearing some bone ugly faux fur vest.
Gah.
In movie land there would be gunfire about now. L

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 08, 2018 07:32 PM (MWdMi)

35 Soothsayer, I'm already more or less convinced I'll enjoy Deadpool, because it starts with Juice Newton's "Angel Of The Morning." That's the kind of thing I'd try to shoehorn into an action movie.

One of the Deadpool movies will no doubt feature "Sometimes When We Touch."

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:32 PM (feaxc)

36 "Sweetheart, can you speak up? It's a little hard to hear you with that pity dick in your mouth."

Tough old dame!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:33 PM (kQs4Y)

37 hogmartin, thanks. I will. Sounds like it actually does cross both the dramedy/romcom and sci-fi genres.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:33 PM (feaxc)

38 Well, Hawke might be confused about genre films, but compared to the douchey things actors say about politics, global warming, BLM, Trump, illegals, etc. this seems rather minor on the douchebag scale.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 08, 2018 07:33 PM (d6Ksn)

39 The Deadpools are good, because they're funny

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 07:34 PM (1UZdv)

40
Yeah it's cute and nostalgic to insert these oldies tunes into movies (Guardians of the Galaxy, Deadpool, etc.) but it's becoming unoriginal.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:34 PM (Tf31n)

41 Dead Poet's Society was the peak of ham-fisted mawkish pablum for both Ethan Hawke and Robin Williams.

Here is Hawke's best scene in Lord of War.

https://youtu.be/UTK8torOylM

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 08, 2018 07:35 PM (rnAwa)

42 I bought a set of the first 5 Mission Impossible movies after seeing part of one of the more recent ones. Should I just watch them in order? Which ones are best? Any duds?

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

43 The nun

A priest with a haunted past and a novice on the threshold of her final vows are sent by the Vatican to investigate the death of a young nun in Romania and confront a malevolent force in the form of a demonic nun.

Sounds great-Nope

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 08, 2018 07:35 PM (AllCR)

44 Debating whether to get Deadpool 2, sight unseen. I've heard so many good things.

Think I will wait until the bluray is heavily discounted though... just like I did with the original DP.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:35 PM (feaxc)

45 "SciFi movie actor Ethan Hawke"

Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 07:35 PM (FRlvP)

46 was on youtube and watched Burt Reynolds, Don Rickles, Buddy Hackett on the Johnny Carson show my god do I miss how good Late Night use to be,

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 08, 2018 07:35 PM (dKiJG)

47 "Genre" movies that won Best Picture Oscar, in just the past 30 years:

The Hurt Locker (war)
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (fantasy)
Chicago (musical)
Gladiator (sword & sandal)
Unforgiven (western)
The Silence of the Lambs (horror)

Really, pretty much ALL the Best Picture winners are of some genre or another, but these were the most obvious ones to me.


Ethan Hawke = twat
TJM = not a twat

Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 07:36 PM (786Ro)

48
Gattaca was much like The Island for me: Uninteresting with no likable characters.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:36 PM (Tf31n)

49 Wasn't Boyhood more than 3 hours long?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2018 07:36 PM (PUmDY)

50 I thought I had that Superman Returns but when I looked what I have is Man of Steel. I liked it but the critics hated it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 08, 2018 07:36 PM (mpXpK)

51 Patrick, same here. I'm stuck watching King Of Queens reruns every night on TV Land.

I like the show, but when you've seen every single episode at least five times...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (feaxc)

52 Gattaca was a terrific film about being more than the sum of one's DNA.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:27 PM (kQs4Y)


It's totally ok to tear up a bit at the final montage sometimesevery time.

The movie GATTACA is excellent. The had the potential to be pretentious twattery but instead is one of my favorites. The soundtrack is haunting.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 08, 2018 07:28 PM (rnAwa)


Speaking of the ending montage... DON'T watch that link if you haven't seen the movie yet, qdpsteve.

But yes, theme reprise over the final montage: UHNF. Right in dem feelz.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (y87Qq)

53 watching Foreigner

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (CE6iV)

54 Ethan Hawke was in Dead Poet's Society. That was the movie that started to turn me against Robin Williams. That and that movie where RW was a doctor.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (MWdMi)

55 Watching Year of Living Dangerously, Peter Wehr can put up a good historical movie

Posted by: Skip at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (T4oHT)

56 Ethan Hawke still has cred for Training Day.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (5kTP+)

57 TD Clemson

(too soon for football comments?)

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (e7oj4)

58 I don't have a ton of experience with the superhero movie genre, but if I had to guess the all-time best pics:

- Superman (197
- The Dark Knight
- Deadpool

...MAYBE the original Spider-Man too...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:38 PM (feaxc)

59 The Nun - not gonna watch because creepy movies are not my thing. Peppermint - also not going to watch because I hate watching movies that have a sad premise to it like losing a kid. I want to be entertained for my twenty bucks so I stick to Mission Impossible type genres.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:38 PM (4lu7W)

60 40
Yeah it's cute and nostalgic to insert these oldies tunes into movies (Guardians of the Galaxy, Deadpool, etc.) but it's becoming unoriginal.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:34 PM (Tf31n)

Who started that? I'm thinking of films made by and watched by boomers, like "Full Metal Jacket" and well, just about every Scorcese gangster film ever. And yeah, it was effective in the 80's but it's become a cliche.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 08, 2018 07:38 PM (d6Ksn)

61 hogmartin, thanks, I'll wait for the bluray. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:39 PM (feaxc)

62 Logan is a pretty near faithful telling of the graphic novel, "Old Man Logan"

If you didn't like the movie then you didn't like the source material, and the source material was great.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 08, 2018 07:39 PM (kT3/m)

63 Tell us how you really feel, TJM?

I think Ethan Hawke is simply pretentious.
He is an artist, a poet, he smokes cigarettes and talks, talks, talks just like his character I Before Sunrise (wasn't a lot of the dialog in those 3 movies ad libed?).

On the plus side, he was in one of my favorite movies, Gattaca, so not a total pretentious twat? on occ

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 07:39 PM (W+vEI)

64 hogmartin, thanks. I will. Sounds like it actually does cross both the dramedy/romcom and sci-fi genres.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:33 PM (feaxc)


There's nothing comedic and barely any romance in it. It doesn't suffer for that, though.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 07:39 PM (y87Qq)

65 35 Soothsayer, I'm already more or less convinced I'll enjoy Deadpool, because it starts with Juice Newton's "Angel Of The Morning." That's the kind of thing I'd try to shoehorn into an action movie.

One of the Deadpool movies will no doubt feature "Sometimes When We Touch."

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:32 PM (feaxc)



You know they actually had a Celine Dion song made for the film. Even made a music video for it. https://youtu.be/CX11yw6YL1w

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 07:39 PM (cAnNx)

66 I don't know Ethan Hawke from Adam's house cat.

But I like Hunchbacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv0b9TxAtG4

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 08, 2018 07:39 PM (EoRCO)

67 Donna, Stanley Kubrick was NOT a boomer. Born 1928. Although Gustav Hasford (who wrote the book FMJ is based on, The Short-Timers) is one.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:39 PM (feaxc)

68 I think I miss Phillip Seymour Hoffman.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 07:40 PM (5kTP+)

69
Speaking of TV Land, why does every "retro" tv channel turn to crap after a few years?

Heroes Icons was great. Now they have newer shows on such as Numbers and Nash Bridges. Garbage TV.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:40 PM (Tf31n)

70 I don't think Hawke is wrong per se. I like scifi and fantasy, but most superhero movies are stupid precisely because they are superhero movies. They are films with nothing to say that take about 2 hours to say it. Man gains superpowers, does heroic stuff, gains inexpicable nemesis, overcomes nemesis, bangs starstruck mortal wench. Same formula again and again. Or even worse: dispense with even that minimal character arc and have a team of superheros doing heroic things (by which I mean CGI-fueled action) for two hours. They are generally awful movies for 12-year-olds or imbeciles.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at September 08, 2018 07:40 PM (H5knJ)

71 buzzion, OMG. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:40 PM (feaxc)

72 Yeah it's cute and nostalgic to insert these oldies tunes into movies
(Guardians of the Galaxy, Deadpool, etc.) but it's becoming unoriginal.


I always thought that they do that because Millenial music pretty much sucks.

Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 07:40 PM (FRlvP)

73 Patrick, same here. I'm stuck watching King Of Queens reruns every night on TV Land.

I like the show, but when you've seen every single episode at least five times...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (feaxc)

I started watch the old Tim Conway Don Knotts Disney Movies, with my 5 yr son and we watch the old Scooby Doo movies with the Celebs from my Youth and I think Cher is the only one that is alive from them and rest are all Dead and it makes me so Sad. Maybe some of the Harlem Globe Trotters are alive and I was shocked to see Scooby and Shaggy saying thier prayers before bed.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 08, 2018 07:41 PM (dKiJG)

74 Peter Weir is great at portraying littlle worlds unto their own. Master and Commander (18th century British navy), Witness (Amish), Dead Poets

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 07:41 PM (1UZdv)

75 55 Watching Year of Living Dangerously, Peter Wehr can put up a good historical movie
Posted by: Skip at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (T4oHT)

One of my very favorite movies. It sort of crosses genres doesn't it? I recall seeing with a boyfriend and he enjoyed the history and thriller aspect of it and I liked the romance. And Mel Gibson has never looked better on film. That scene where they drive though the roadblock - hot, hot, hot!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 08, 2018 07:41 PM (d6Ksn)

76 That and that movie where RW was a doctor.
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (MWdMi)
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Patchcord Adams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gib1u_3kdIM

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:41 PM (kQs4Y)

77
Who started that? I'm thinking of films made by and watched by boomers,
like "Full Metal Jacket" and well, just about every Scorcese gangster
film ever. And yeah, it was effective in the 80's but it's become a
cliche.


Did Scorcese do that abomination "Gatsby?"
That had revolting music all throughout. So out of place.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:41 PM (Tf31n)

78 >> I want to be entertained for my twenty bucks so I stick to Mission Impossible type genres.

Word.
*fist bump*

Yeah, I kinda want to see the new The Predator movie. I know, but it looks like dumb fun and it's written by Shane Black ("Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang") so it might not be awful?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 07:42 PM (W+vEI)

79 70 I don't think Hawke is wrong per se. I like scifi and fantasy, but most superhero movies are stupid precisely because they are superhero movies. They are films with nothing to say that take about 2 hours to say it. Man gains superpowers, does heroic stuff, gains inexpicable nemesis, overcomes nemesis, bangs starstruck mortal wench. Same formula again and again. Or even worse: dispense with even that minimal character arc and have a team of superheros doing heroic things (by which I mean CGI-fueled action) for two hours. They are generally awful movies for 12-year-olds or imbeciles.
Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at September 08, 2018 07:40 PM (H5knJ

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That assumes that no superhero movie could ever be truly great.

Like saying, will most horror movies are terrible, so no horror movie can be great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 08, 2018 07:42 PM (rhlLd)

80 57
TD Clemson



(too soon for football comments?)

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 07:37 PM (e7oj4)

Damn, I forgot that GA/SC game was on this afternoon. And I could have watched it on a local channel.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 08, 2018 07:42 PM (mpXpK)

81 Patchcord Adams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gib1u_3kdIM
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:41 PM (kQs4Y)

Ah yes. I hated that movie.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 08, 2018 07:42 PM (MWdMi)

82 Patrick, oh yeah. Lots of old surprises out there.

I recently read on Ken Levine's blog that Hanna-Barbara tried, without much success, to go into live-action features and even a few prime time sitcoms in the mid- to late-1970s. One of their films was C.H.O.M.P.S., with Valerie Bertinelli.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:42 PM (feaxc)

83
And my local team beats the Nebraska Cornhuskers! Bwahahahaha. I hate the Cornhuskers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 08, 2018 07:43 PM (r+sAi)

84 50 I thought I had that Superman Returns but when I looked what I have is Man of Steel. I liked it but the critics hated it.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 08, 2018 07:36 PM (mpXpK)



Man of Steel is the best Superman movie. But it is not the Best movie with Superman as the star.

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 07:43 PM (cAnNx)

85
Robin Williams made a lot of garbage. Never got that guy.
He epitomized Obnoxious.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:43 PM (Tf31n)

86 Yep game over, and GA beat the snot out of them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 08, 2018 07:43 PM (mpXpK)

87 The only movie I cared for that featured Mr. Hawke: Dead Poets Society. And that was in spite of him, not because of him. (Truth be told, it is one of my favorite movies...in my top 5, as I have no one favorite movie).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 08, 2018 07:44 PM (XZgzl)

88 Soothsayer, I think Gatsby was Baz Luhrmann. "The glitter king." Bleah.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:44 PM (feaxc)

89 The entire Mission Impossible series is well made and entertaining. The weakest is the second one directed by John Woo.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 08, 2018 07:44 PM (rnAwa)

90 I haven't been to a movie in months. I think the last thing I saw in a theater was a special showing of Miyazaki's Porco Rosso. Before that it was probably Ant Man. Looking at the listings of what's playing right now, I just don't see anything that interests me. It all looks either stupid or boring.

How is it that moviemakers have managed to forget how to make movies?

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 07:45 PM (3Ezy2)

91 88 Soothsayer, I think Gatsby was Baz Luhrmann. "The glitter king." Bleah.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:44 PM (feaxc

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Don't hate on Luhrmann. He's weird as hell, but talented.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 08, 2018 07:45 PM (rhlLd)

92 Who started that? I'm thinking of films made by and watched by boomers, like "Full Metal Jacket" and well, just about every Scorcese gangster film ever. And yeah, it was effective in the 80's but it's become a cliche.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 08, 2018 07:38 PM



American Graffiti, ftw!

no, wait..

The Big Chill, ftw!

Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 07:45 PM (786Ro)

93 Speaking of TV Land, why does every "retro" tv channel turn to crap after a few years?

Heroes Icons was great. Now they have newer shows on such as Numbers and Nash Bridges. Garbage TV.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:40 PM (Tf31n)




If you like TV spy shows, Charge! TV (yeah, I never heard of it either) starting at 7pm Central will run two episodes of the Avengers and Danger Man.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 08, 2018 07:45 PM (SiINZ)

94 >>I always thought that they do that because Millenial music pretty much sucks.


Oh boy, yes.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 07:45 PM (W+vEI)

95 Anybody seen the new Jennifer Garner revenge , kill them all movie?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 07:46 PM (5kTP+)

96 89 The entire Mission Impossible series is well made and entertaining. The weakest is the second one directed by John Woo.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 08, 2018 07:44 PM (rnAwa)

I do watch movies to be entertained. I'm not smart enough to watch for any other reason.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 08, 2018 07:46 PM (MWdMi)

97 Did Scorcese do that abomination "Gatsby?"

That had revolting music all throughout. So out of place.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:41 PM (Tf31n)



The recent one with DiCrapio? That was some Australian who directed that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 08, 2018 07:46 PM (SiINZ)

98 Let's give the Democrats the House so we cam impeach Trump and stop the economic progress and go back to the days of OBAMA !!!!

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove at September 08, 2018 07:46 PM (qM84C)

99 "They are generally awful movies for 12-year-olds or imbeciles."

And they eat up the multiplexes. Some are entertaining, and even good.

I like movies that are "good of their kind." Most superheros movies just suck

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 07:46 PM (1UZdv)

100 Ben Had: that movie you're thinking of is Peppermint. Basically it's Death Wish in the present day, with a woman in the lead.

You know it's good 'cuz all the stopped Roger Ebert reviewer could talk about was how raciss it is. Even their own comment section asked if the idiot had even actually seen the movie before he reviewed it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (feaxc)

101 Didn't all the Fallout video games start with old time music?

I think the stories in some games is better than stories in movies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (hyuyC)

102 Dang,Vic

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (PUmDY)

103 Logan is a shitty movie, period.

Just had the displeasure of watching "Black Panther" for the first time (for free). What a lame drivel. Basically a black "iron man", the same lame corny jokes non stop with some crappy social justice thrown in. Right now I am trying to watch "Thor Ragnarok" and great googly moogly, Marvel has gone to shit

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (WTcEx)

104 I'm watching the Buckeye game on DVR. It's nice to again have a quarterback that can throw the football again. Actually throwing a pass just beyond the first down marker on a 3rd and 6 instead of another QB run? What a concept!

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (cAnNx)

105 I enjoyed movie night with the kids and grandchildren. Granddaughter number one wants to watch Infinity War. Anybody know anything about it?

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 08, 2018 07:48 PM (MWdMi)

106 Colin Kaeppernick should play the heavy in the next Kingsman movie...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:48 PM (feaxc)

107 38 Well, Hawke might be confused about genre films, but compared to the douchey things actors say about politics, global warming, BLM, Trump, illegals, etc. this seems rather minor on the douchebag scale.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 08, 2018 07:33 PM (d6Ksn)

++++

He's not confused. He made a valid criticism about how superhero movies (NOT genre movies) are filling all the bandwidth and that what he considers more artistic films are getting ignored. He named two examples of the ignored films.

Two Lovers, 2008
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1103275

Hereafter, 2010
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1212419/

I've never seen either of those and I have no clue whether or not I missed anything. And, actors forever have been complaining about the business end of show business. He's not the first actor to bitch about how it's all about the money and not always so much about the art. And then they always cash the checks.

TJM didn't link, but the entire interview is here if anyone is interested.

http://tinyurl.com/ybs2sksm

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 08, 2018 07:49 PM (U3075)

108 Tigers score on 65 yd pass!

Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 07:49 PM (zLDYs)

109 103 Logan is a shitty movie, period.

Just had the displeasure of watching "Black Panther" for the first time (for free). What a lame drivel. Basically a black "iron man", the same lame corny jokes non stop with some crappy social justice thrown in. Right now I am trying to watch "Thor Ragnarok" and great googly moogly, Marvel has gone to shit
Posted by: GrandMa Bell at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (WTcEx)

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I was really surprised at how little I liked Black Panther.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 08, 2018 07:49 PM (rhlLd)

110 I watched most of Logan on TV in a motel a couple of months ago, during a cross-country drive. I didn't bother finishing it. The fact that all the bad guys were played by white male actors got a little grating. Even the bad guys in Mexico were gringos.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 07:50 PM (3Ezy2)

111 I kinda watched Black Panther on a recent flight- no ear phones and napping.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 08, 2018 07:50 PM (MWdMi)

112 That was Robin Williams in The Fisher King, right? I vaguely remember liking that, but it was ages ago. Has anyone seen it recently? Is it worth seeing again or just leave it as-is?

Didn't all the Fallout video games start with old time music?
I think the stories in some games is better than stories in movies.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (hyuyC)


Fallout 2 had "A Kiss to Build a Dream On" for the intro. And agreed, some games have amazing stories. The Marathon Trilogy (Mac, 1994/5/6), e.g.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 07:51 PM (y87Qq)

113
I don't get Charge in my area anymore.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:51 PM (Tf31n)

114 I'm just enjoying the fact that we got a rant out of TJM this week. He's usually so dispassionate.

Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 07:51 PM (786Ro)

115 Ha, Deadpool complaining they're too cheap to ever have any of the other superheroes at the Castle, and behind him out of his line of sight is a room with Blue Beast and all the X-kids.


Typo fun: I just learned that "superheroes" and "superherpes" are OH so close.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:51 PM (kQs4Y)

116
Did I see right?

Boston College and Syracuse both scored 62 points in their games today?


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:52 PM (Tf31n)

117 Lizzy, i was thinking about watching the Predator too..looks kinda cheesy but amusing.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:52 PM (4lu7W)

118 qdpsteve, I heard the local guy review it and he was appalled that this was just another revenge movie and that someone would take justice into their own hands, I guess the never saw "The Brave One" either.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 07:52 PM (5kTP+)

119 Peppermint - also not going to watch because I hate watching movies that have a sad premise to it like losing a kid.
Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:38 PM (4lu7W)

--Peppermint looks like a revenge flick. I like those.

Sooth, I quit TV Land when they cowed to SJW idiocy and dropped The Dukes of Hazzard.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 07:52 PM (e7oj4)

120 42 I bought a set of the first 5 Mission Impossible movies after seeing part of one of the more recent ones. Should I just watch them in order? Which ones are best? Any duds?
Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

Three blows goats. One's OK, two is eh. I liked Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation best.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 07:52 PM (NWiLs)

121 114 I'm just enjoying the fact that we got a rant out of TJM this week. He's usually so dispassionate.
Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 07:51 PM (786Ro)

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Last one I remember is The Candidate. I hated that movie and I just had to share.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 08, 2018 07:52 PM (rhlLd)

122 Clemson is stepping up now.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 07:53 PM (e7oj4)

123 I don't get Charge in my area anymore.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:51 PM (Tf31n)



I just started getting. I also noticed I now have a station called Revolt which looks to be BLM bullshit 24/7. On right now is Hip Hop vs Trump.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 08, 2018 07:53 PM (SiINZ)

124 Huey Newton was great in the original Black Panther.

Posted by: Bobby Seale at September 08, 2018 07:53 PM (EoRCO)

125 119 Peppermint - also not going to watch because I hate watching movies that have a sad premise to it like losing a kid.
Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:38 PM (4lu7W)

It's basically Punisher but a chick.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 07:53 PM (NWiLs)

126 Extrapolating on the theme, much the same can be said for music. My tastes are very eclectic but many people limit their choices by remaining loyal to a genre and dismissing all others. Two of my favorite musicians are Yo-yo Ma and Aussie guitarist John Williams. They are similar in that each plays in a wide variety of styles. Yo-yo has even done two bluegrass / mountain music albums! Not all of their albums are winners, in my opinion, but both are genre blenders and that's one reason I admire them.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2018 07:53 PM (+y/Ru)

127 Oh dear, A&M in all sorts of trouble. Watching wazzu play tonight with the Hilinski family there to raise the COUG flag is gonna be tough.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:54 PM (4lu7W)

128
You know it's good 'cuz all the stopped Roger Ebert reviewer could talk about was how raciss it is. Even their own comment section asked if the idiot had even actually seen the movie before he reviewed it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (feaxc)
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I was actually surprised that the bad guys looked like MS-13 thugs and not WASP bankers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 07:54 PM (kQs4Y)

129 15 GATTACA was extremely good.

But not because of Ethan Hawke.
Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 07:25 PM (FRlvP)

==

Because of Jude Law!!! He was such a pretty boy, LOL.

Gattaca is one of my fav movies.
I also like Daybreakers.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 08, 2018 07:54 PM (CE6iV)

130 I'm usually a big Marvel superhero fan, but I thought Black Panther was also a little grating. Mostly because despite being set in Africa, it wasn't about Africa. It was about American white liberal guilt. That's why people from a never-colonized hermit kingdom in Africa use "colonialist" as a mocking term of derision for an American white guy. That's why all the actual problems facing African countries are handwaved out of existence, because it would be awkward to address them since they can't be blamed on white people.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 07:55 PM (3Ezy2)

131
I also noticed I now have a station called Revolt which looks to be BLM bullshit 24/7. On right now is Hip Hop vs Trump.

Who are the advertisers, the PLO? Hezbollah? MS-13?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:55 PM (Tf31n)

132 Whats surprising about Predestination is it does work at all. Go read trhe source (Heinlein's All You Zombies) and it comes across as unfilmable.

Posted by: redchief at September 08, 2018 07:55 PM (mL4jt)

133 I'll confess an apparently unpopular opinion.

I HATED Logan, I'm a huge old school marvel/superhero fan and was not happy with how the characters were treated and the spoiling of one of the reasons I like superhero stuff... The good guys are good and overcome all obstacles to do good, and at the end, nothing pivotal to the character changes.

I know it's a non-in-depth view.. and I don't care.

Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at September 08, 2018 07:55 PM (DsgwF)

134 130 I'm usually a big Marvel superhero fan, but I thought Black Panther was also a little grating. Mostly because despite being set in Africa, it wasn't about Africa. It was about American white liberal guilt. That's why people from a never-colonized hermit kingdom in Africa use "colonialist" as a mocking term of derision for an American white guy. That's why all the actual problems facing African countries are handwaved out of existence, because it would be awkward to address them since they can't be blamed on white people.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 07:55 PM (3Ezy2)

Never mind that pretty much all the African countries that didn't have colonial influence are shitholes. And the others are working really hard at it, like South Africa.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 07:56 PM (NWiLs)

135 I like rah rah f**k yeah go America type movies too. Where special forces kick isis ass and all the goat lovers die horribly.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:56 PM (4lu7W)

136 He dealt with wizards, magic, and fairies all the time.


Brother, tell me about it.

Posted by: Judge Brett Kavanaugh at the Senate this week at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (786Ro)

137 I want to be entertained for my twenty bucks so I stick to Mission Impossible type genres.

Word.
*fist bump*

Yeah, I kinda want to see the new The Predator movie. I know, but it looks like dumb fun and it's written by Shane Black ("Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang") so it might not be awful?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 07:42 PM (W+vEI)

Well they had to cut out some scenes because the Director hired his buddy a convicted Sexually offender.


Logan is stupid because the Little Girl that is like Logan is not done growing and she has steel or whatever it's called grafted on her bones so when she grows she will be in constant pain.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (dKiJG)

138 I Sinister the one with the home movies? That wss prettu creepy.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (CE6iV)

139 White Lightning, Malone and The end are coming on This TV for a trio of Burt Reynold movies

Posted by: Skip at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (T4oHT)

140 135 I like rah rah f**k yeah go America type movies too. Where special forces kick isis ass and all the goat lovers die horribly.
Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:56 PM (4lu7W)

Terrorists your game is through!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (NWiLs)

141 Speaking of genres, I love nearly all. My standard is "is it good of its kind."

It's harder to do a good comedy than drama. Comedy has to make you laugh. Drama too often gets points just for being earnest.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (1UZdv)

142 hogmartin

The Marathon Trilogy were games where the story was prime entertainment. Glad you picked up on that.

An earlier effort, Pathways into Darkness, was also a good story and game. But no real music.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (hyuyC)

143
White Lightning was good because it was gritty. Gator was more silly.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 07:58 PM (Tf31n)

144 138 I Sinister the one with the home movies? That wss prettu creepy.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (CE6iV)

It is. I thought it was a snoozefest, but I'm pretty jaded regarding horror flicks.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 07:58 PM (NWiLs)

145 Didn't all the Fallout video games start with old time music?
I think the stories in some games is better than stories in movies.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 08, 2018 07:47 PM (hyuyC)

Fallout 2 had "A Kiss to Build a Dream On" for the intro. And agreed, some games have amazing stories. The Marathon Trilogy (Mac, 1994/5/6), e.g.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 07:51 PM (y87Qq)



Yeah Fallout is full of old timey songs. I think Fallout 4 has "The Wanderer" which is probably the most recognized song they've ever used.

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 07:58 PM (cAnNx)

146 My all time favorite revenge movies
Man On Fire
The Brave One
Criminal
The Missing

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 07:59 PM (5kTP+)

147 Can honestly say I have never seen an Ethan Hawke (who????) movie.

And with luck I will die forty years hence in that same condition.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 08, 2018 07:59 PM (fRQju)

148
Oh... Hard Rain. Haven't seen that since around when it came out. Good fun flick from what I recall.

Posted by: otho at September 08, 2018 08:00 PM (LkFnL)

149 147 Can honestly say I have never seen an Ethan Hawke (who????) movie.

And with luck I will die forty years hence in that same condition.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 08, 2018 07:59 PM (fRQju)

You never saw Training Day?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 08:00 PM (NWiLs)

150 >>I like movies that are "good of their kind." Most superheros movies just suck



They are all blending together. One thing I did enjoy about Black Panther was that there were real person fight scenes, not all cartoonish super-power fight scenes where they smash each other into buildings and hop back up, jump up to the top of a building, yadda yadda yadda. I start to look at my watch, calculate how much longer the movie is, and consider turning it off, whatever.


Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 08:00 PM (W+vEI)

151 Sinister wasn't home movies. It was sn*ff films. Too much of them.

Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 08:00 PM (786Ro)

152 Son of a bitch. I was looking forward to watching the Avengers and all I get it We are experiencing technical difficulties with the program provider.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 08, 2018 08:01 PM (SiINZ)

153 Ethan Hawke should be the next Senator of Arizona!

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at September 08, 2018 08:01 PM (vXPUJ)

154 "a man who dresses like a bat and tries to punch a man dressed like a clown"
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I approve of this.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 08, 2018 08:01 PM (0jtPF)

155 I do have my favorite genres. Loves me some dinosaur movies. I even enjoyed Skull Island. Unfortunately, I won't see Jurassic World II: SJW Bugaloo because I'm sick of being preached to and I understand that is what this is. Can't we just have escaped dinosaurs ripping people apart the way God intended?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2018 08:01 PM (+y/Ru)

156
Quietman, watch White Lightning, instead.

Or Columbo.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 08:01 PM (Tf31n)

157 I could ignore everything else stupid that Ethan Hawke acted in or says because of Gattaca.

Just like I could ignore everything else stupid that Tom Cruise acted in or said because of Collateral.
Gut level impact is the crucial element I guess.

Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 08:02 PM (FRlvP)

158 i have no idea who Ethan Hawke is, and i've never heard of "Logan" or it being a movie...

is it anything like Logan's Run?

because otherwise IDGAF about that asshat or the movie he's blathering about.

if i wanted to hear an actor say anything, i'd hand them a script.

other than that, they can all STFU.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 08, 2018 08:02 PM (pJeub)

159 135 I like rah rah f**k yeah go America type movies too. Where special forces kick isis ass and all the goat lovers die horribly.
Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:56 PM (4lu7W)

--I've started watching Jack Ryan. Two episodes in, and it's pretty good. Maybe not 100% pure Clancy, but solid.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:03 PM (e7oj4)

160 Only movie I've ever seen with Ethan Hawke in it was that overpraised piece of crap Boyhood, by Linklater. Remember that? They filmed it over the course of about ten years so the characters all aged in real-time. Every adult white male in the movie was a violent alcoholic, except Hawke's character, who was a wimpy alcoholic. Oh, and vote for Obama, and getting high solves everything. Feh.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:04 PM (3Ezy2)

161 Why in the hell are there incompatible 'regions' for DVDs? To date I've managed to avoid buying the wrong one, but it's only a matter of time.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:04 PM (MVjcR)

162 159 135 I like rah rah f**k yeah go America type movies too. Where special forces kick isis ass and all the goat lovers die horribly.
Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 07:56 PM (4lu7W)

--I've started watching Jack Ryan. Two episodes in, and it's pretty good. Maybe not 100% pure Clancy, but solid.
Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:03 PM (e7oj4)

Does he play any good pranks on Dwight?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 08:04 PM (NWiLs)

163 Just noted that Smokey and the Bandit is on Amazon Prime...


I have Coors, will watch it later tonight..

Posted by: Don Q at September 08, 2018 08:05 PM (NgKpN)

164 Quietman, watch White Lightning, instead.

Or Columbo.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 08, 2018 08:01 PM (Tf31n)



I watched a bit of On Her Majesty's Secret Service last night, so I'm in an Emma Peel mood. Hang about,. I can watch it on their website. It's a Tara King episode

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 08, 2018 08:05 PM (SiINZ)

165 The "regions" are nothing but settings in your DVD player. There are web sites which tell how to disable them.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:05 PM (3Ezy2)

166 Can honestly say I have never seen an Ethan Hawke (who????) movie.



And with luck I will die forty years hence in that same condition.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 08, 2018 07:59 PM (fRQju)

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what he said...

/me high fives Sharkman

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 08, 2018 08:06 PM (pJeub)

167 Ohhh, logprof yes, Jack Ryan is definitely on my list.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 08:06 PM (4lu7W)

168 I would like to see a Molly Million s movie.

Posted by: Jean at September 08, 2018 08:06 PM (9DtOw)

169 Logan is stupid because the Little Girl that is like Logan is not done growing and she has steel or whatever it's called grafted on her bones so when she grows she will be in constant pain.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (dKiJG)



She has his healing factor though. That is his actual mutant power, not the claws though they were sort of retconned as being part of it. In fact that's the reason he has the Adamantium grafted to his bones, his healing factor keeps it from killing him. So X-23 is going to be fine.

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:06 PM (cAnNx)

170 One of my favorite Burt Reynolds movie was Breaking In from the late 80s, early 90s. He plays a professional thief who takes a novice under his wing. Good and funny. Not a typical Reynolds vehicle.

Think I'll go on YouTube for some Turd Ferguson.

Also, Svengoolie is on and it looks like a stinker.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:06 PM (+Tibp)

171 >>--I've started watching Jack Ryan. Two episodes in, and it's pretty good. Maybe not 100% pure Clancy, but solid.



Oh, curious to hear what you think when you're done.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 08:07 PM (W+vEI)

172 Can she heal me?!?

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at September 08, 2018 08:07 PM (vXPUJ)

173 Aguirre: the wrath of God was apparently first done in English, and later given a German soundtrack. Here's what I think is the original English version: https://tinyurl.com/yabyjzrl
Note it seems more natural than the lip-synching in the German version.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 08, 2018 08:07 PM (/qEW2)

174 Dont you have to like Black Panther?...or racist or something

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 08, 2018 08:08 PM (CDETr)

175 Logan is stupid because the Little Girl that is like Logan is not done growing and she has steel or whatever it's called grafted on her bones so when she grows she will be in constant pain.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 08, 2018 07:57 PM (dKiJG)


How will the bones even grow? makes no sense...

Posted by: Don Q at September 08, 2018 08:08 PM (NgKpN)

176 161 Why in the hell are there incompatible 'regions' for DVDs? To date I've managed to avoid buying the wrong one, but it's only a matter of time.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:04 PM (MVjcR)



You planning to buy a movie in Japan or Europe?

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:08 PM (cAnNx)

177 146 My all time favorite revenge movies
Man On Fire
The Brave One
Criminal
The Missing
Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 07:59 PM (5kTP+)

--Same as my list, although I'd add the first Taken movie.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:08 PM (e7oj4)

178 bones?!? screw that! I need help with my brain!

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at September 08, 2018 08:09 PM (vXPUJ)

179 Half way through "Thor Ragnarok" and yep, Marvel has gone to shit

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at September 08, 2018 08:09 PM (WTcEx)

180 I have Coors, will watch it later tonight..

Posted by: Don Q at September 08, 2018 08:05 PM (NgKpN)

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sad tale: i bought a 30 pack of Coors on sale earlier this summer, for old times sake, and it was, for me, undrinkable.

not sure what they did to it, or if my taste bud memory bank is faulty, but it was so sweet that it tasted bad, and the extra sugar and my gut didn't get along either.

had to give it to a friend who is supposed to replace with something i can drink.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 08, 2018 08:09 PM (pJeub)

181 Incompatible regions for dvd is to combat piracy especially in Asia.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 08:09 PM (4lu7W)

182 Half In the Bag 2018 Movie Catch-up Part I:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJVd5C8OU0

And Part II:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsBe5qRVz-0

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 08:10 PM (kQs4Y)

183 171 >>--I've started watching Jack Ryan. Two episodes in, and it's pretty good. Maybe not 100% pure Clancy, but solid.



Oh, curious to hear what you think when you're done.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 08:07 PM (W+vEI)


I'm like 7 or 8 in and its getting predictable.

And making terrorists out to be sympathetic figures...


Really, its all because he tried to keep his younger brother out of French Prison... and ended up in himself... /facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at September 08, 2018 08:10 PM (NgKpN)

184

You planning to buy a movie in Japan or Europe?
Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:08 PM (cAnNx)
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If I did, I'd like it to work! I've come this >< close a couple o times on Amazon.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:10 PM (aCwvo)

185 I saw The Secret of NIMH recently, and I think it suffers from what all of Don Bluth's films suffer from--an inability to end when it's supposed to. Other than that, I don't remember much about it.

I remember seeing Superman Returns a few years ago, and thought it was a pure valentine to the first Christopher Reeve Superman movie. Same plot, same situations, hell, even the same dialogue.

The first Christopher Reeve Superman movie, by the way, ought to be a template for how the character is done. "Batman V Superman" could have been a struggle between Superman's eternal optimism and Batman's ingrained cynicism. Instead they went with "stupid" instead.

Tip for anyone who wants to make a Fantastic Four movie: study that first Superman movie. That's the way the Fantastic Four should be done--with a gee-whiz optimism and forward-thinking urge to conquer problems.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 08, 2018 08:10 PM (l9m7l)

186 Sweet, Kentucky is beating the Gaytors.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:10 PM (e7oj4)

187 180 I have Coors, will watch it later tonight..

Posted by: Don Q at September 08, 2018 08:05 PM (NgKpN)

---
sad tale: i bought a 30 pack of Coors on sale earlier this summer, for old times sake, and it was, for me, undrinkable.

not sure what they did to it, or if my taste bud memory bank is faulty, but it was so sweet that it tasted bad, and the extra sugar and my gut didn't get along either.

had to give it to a friend who is supposed to replace with something i can drink.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 08, 2018 08:09 PM (pJeub)



The first beer I ever had was a Coors.

The last Coors I ever had was my first beer.

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:10 PM (cAnNx)

188 On TCM tonight, Sean Connery in Robin and Marian and then The Man Who Would Be King. High adventure!

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:11 PM (+Tibp)

189 I watched most of Logan on TV in a motel a couple of months ago, during a cross-country drive. I didn't bother finishing it. The fact that all the bad guys were played by white male actors got a little grating. Even the bad guys in Mexico were gringos.
Posted by: Trimegistus


Well, it's not like those people would be smart enough to be super-scientist doctors.

...crap.

Posted by: Hollywood at September 08, 2018 08:11 PM (P1f+c)

190 On TCM tonight, Sean Connery in Robin and Marian and then The Man Who Would Be King. High adventure!

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:11 PM (+Tibp)



Them are good ones

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 08, 2018 08:12 PM (SiINZ)

191 181 Incompatible regions for dvd is to combat piracy especially in Asia.
Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 08:09 PM (4lu7W)
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Thanks - I guess that makes sense. I don't like it! but it makes sense.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:12 PM (MVjcR)

192 With all that ragging on Ethan, I just had to go wiki the poor dude.

Let's see, he's a self described feminist. Thinks monogamy is old and busted. Thinks tulips sprout from TFG's ass and Shrillary's exoskeleton.

In other words, your garden variety progressive lib.

So ignore his personal mouth droppings. Pay attention to his art. He's a pretty good actor.

I loved his portrayal in Gattaca. It turns out, I've seen quite a few of his flicks overall.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 08, 2018 08:12 PM (0ogQG)

193 My all time favorite revenge movies

Man On Fire



Denzel or Scott?

Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 08:12 PM (FRlvP)

194 188 On TCM tonight, Sean Connery in Robin and Marian and then The Man Who Would Be King. High adventure!
Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:11 PM (+Tibp)
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Awesomeness! I shall set my recorder, thanks.

Though, TMWWBK should be paired with The Wind and the Lion for maximum Conneryficness.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 08:12 PM (kQs4Y)

195 redc1c4- I quit Coors 15 years ago. Went to Shiner and never went back.

Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 08:13 PM (zLDYs)

196 Really, its all because he tried to keep his younger brother out of French Prison... and ended up in himself... /facepalm
Posted by: Don Q at September 08, 2018 08:10 PM (NgKpN)

Is that better or worse than a Turkish prison?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 08:13 PM (NWiLs)

197 I guess you can tell I was an early Beta adopter.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:13 PM (MVjcR)

198 Weasel, when i growing up all the street markets in Asia has pirated dvds - cheap copies of the original selling for a tenth of the price of an original.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (4lu7W)

199 193 My all time favorite revenge movies

Man On Fire


Denzel or Scott?
Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 08:12 PM (FRlvP)

Denzel. No contest.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (NWiLs)

200 DVDs are region encoded so that BHO could receive a pen holder carved from timbers of the Resolute's sister ship and, in exchange, toss England a couple discs that can't be played on region 2 players. Which was a thing that happened in real life, if you recall.

I hesitate to bring up political BS in the movie thread, but it is notionally on topic.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (y87Qq)

201 Didn't Wolverine have bone claws before his adamantium upgrade?

If not, which muscles and neural pathways operate the extend/retract thing? Humans don't come with extra USB ports to attach new peripherals.

(insert MST3K mantra here.)

Posted by: mikeski at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (P1f+c)

202 184

You planning to buy a movie in Japan or Europe?
Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:08 PM (cAnNx)
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If I did, I'd like it to work! I've come this >

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:10 PM (aCwvo)



Maybe you should look into a DVD/Blu-ray player that is multiregion compatible. Looking on amazon you can get Sony or LG, so you're not buying some cheap generic sketchy brand.

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (cAnNx)

203 Though, TMWWBK should be paired with The Wind and the Lion for maximum Conneryficness.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage

My favorite Connery line was in The Untouchables.

"Who would claim to be that...that was not?"

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (+Tibp)

204 201 Didn't Wolverine have bone claws before his adamantium upgrade?

Yes.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 08:15 PM (NWiLs)

205 I guess you can tell I was an early Beta adopter.
Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:13 PM (MVjcR)


Hey, so were my parents!

WAIT

...I mean...

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 08:15 PM (y87Qq)

206
Maybe you should look into a DVD/Blu-ray player that is multiregion compatible. Looking on amazon you can get Sony or LG, so you're not buying some cheap generic sketchy brand.
Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (cAnNx)
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Good idea - thanks, but I'd like to complain about it for a while first.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:15 PM (MVjcR)

207 Sorta off topic but something that occurred to me about Hollywood. It seems every show has black and white best buddies and a gay main character. OK, it's a little self conscious and virtue signaling but fine if that's the way you see the world. But simultaneously, the actors and directors etc. are telling us that AmeriKKKa is a deeply racist country where hate reigns supreme. If you are going to portray the country as a utopia of inclusion and diversity, don't then criticize it as the Fourth Reich.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2018 08:15 PM (+y/Ru)

208 Just found an article about how Herbert Von Karajan was an actual Nazi...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 08:16 PM (feaxc)

209 174 Dont you have to like Black Panther?...or racist or something
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 08, 2018 08:08 PM (CDETr)

--Apparently Black Panther is about a black African nation that is proud and exclusionary to outsiders, which white ethnicities are not allowed to be.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:16 PM (e7oj4)

210 **looks around the thread guiltily**

I've seen the 1994, Roger-Corman-produced version of Fantastic Four that never got a theatrical release.

Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 08:17 PM (786Ro)

211 --Apparently Black Panther is about a black African nation that is proud and exclusionary to outsiders, which white ethnicities are not allowed to be.
Posted by: logprof

So, South Africa?

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:17 PM (+Tibp)

212 Denzel. No contest.

...
Agreed. Just throwing out a little Mary Ann v Ginger - type challenge.

Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 08:17 PM (FRlvP)

213 187 The last Coors I ever had was my first beer.

Posted by: buzzion


We didn't drink Coors for the taste; we drank it because it was contraband. You know, like it was portrayed in Smokey And The Bandit. That part of the movie was true.

Having a 6 pack of Coors meant you had 5 new friends. Even girls. Now git off my lawn.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 08, 2018 08:17 PM (0ogQG)

214 I'm forming an anti-multi-region DVD format advocacy group. Who's in?

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:18 PM (MVjcR)

215
One of the more annoying things in the Marvel universe is the constant idea that the heroes create the villains. It's essentially the idea that one should not fight for what is right, that passivity in the face of evil is the better course of action. That is a purely evil idea in and of itself.

It shows up as a central idea in most of the MCU. All three Iron Man films, all three Thor films, two of the three Avengers films, Black Panther, The Hulk, two of the three Captain America films etc. It's tiresome. And it's slowly made me give up on the MCU.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 08:18 PM (eXA4G)

216 DVD players are all made in the same factories in China. You really think they bother manufacturing different machines for Europe, America, and Asia? It's just settings. All DVD players are multi-region. Dr. Mrs. T. found a web site telling how to disable the regional settings when we bought some disks in Japan on a trip.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:18 PM (3Ezy2)

217 201 Didn't Wolverine have bone claws before his adamantium upgrade?

If not, which muscles and neural pathways operate the extend/retract thing? Humans don't come with extra USB ports to attach new peripherals.

(insert MST3K mantra here.)


Posted by: mikeski at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (P1f+c)



After Magneto ripped the Adamantium from his bones it was revealed he had bone claws. However I believe prior to this any flashbacks of him pre-Weapon X did not have him with bone claws. So they made it a bit of a shock when he revealed that he had them in that comic.

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:19 PM (cAnNx)

218 >>--Apparently Black Panther is about a black African nation that is proud and exclusionary to outsiders, which white ethnicities are not allowed to be.


Yeah, but that is common in superhero movies. Wonder Woman lives on a women's only island, Superman's home planet is superior to humans, ditto for Thor's home planet -- they all have superior technology, stronger inhabitants, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 08:19 PM (W+vEI)

219 Denzel. No contest.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 08:14 PM (NWiLs)

--"Death is Creasy's art, and he's creating his masterpiece."

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:20 PM (e7oj4)

220 Robin and Marian is stunning in High Def. Wow. I don't remember it this way at all.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:20 PM (+Tibp)

221 Weasel. I will support you in all of your efforts.

I want Joan Plowright in Murder by Numbers.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 08:20 PM (5kTP+)

222 216 DVD players are all made in the same factories in China. You really think they bother manufacturing different machines for Europe, America, and Asia? It's just settings. All DVD players are multi-region. Dr. Mrs. T. found a web site telling how to disable the regional settings when we bought some disks in Japan on a trip.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:18 PM (3Ezy2)
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Sounds like something covered by the stern FBI warning at the beginning!

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:20 PM (MVjcR)

223

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Bill Daily, the comic sidekick to leading men on the sitcoms "I Dream of Jeannie" and "The Bob Newhart Show," has died, a family spokesman said Saturday.

He played Major Roger Healy in all five seasons of "I Dream of Jeannie" from 1965 to 1970. Healy was the astronaut partner to Larry Hagman's Major Anthony Nelson as both men tried to contain the antics of Jeannie, the blond bombshell who lived in a bottle played by Barbara Eden.

Just two years later he landed a very similar role and had an even longer run on "The Bob Newhart Show," playing aviator Howard Borden behind Newhart's psychologist Dr. Bob Hartley for 140 episodes between 1972 and 1978.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2018 08:21 PM (IqV8l)

224 179 Half way through "Thor Ragnarok" and yep, Marvel has gone to shit
Posted by: GrandMa Bell at September 08, 2018 08:09 PM (WTcEx)


Wait until you get a load of Captain Marvel.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 08, 2018 08:22 PM (1g7ch)

225 TMJ, Apparently you have inspired beyond the world of Ace of Spades. The Great Courses has a recent offering "How to View and Appreciate Great Movies". I haven't checked it out yet but it is being well received so far with a 4.8 out of 5 set of reviews.

And keeping with tonight's theme, the course deals with genres.

Just FYI.

Posted by: JTB at September 08, 2018 08:22 PM (V+03K)

226 What's a DVD?

Posted by: kids at September 08, 2018 08:22 PM (786Ro)

227 Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 08:20 PM (5kTP+)
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Thanks Ben Had. Knew I could count on you.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:22 PM (MVjcR)

228 >>It shows up as a central idea in most of the MCU. All three Iron Man films, all three Thor films, two of the three Avengers films, Black Panther, The Hulk, two of the three Captain America films etc. It's tiresome. And it's slowly made me give up on the MCU.



THIS
It's all "OMG, we're the enemy!!" Ugh, angst.

The only time that worked for me was in The Dark Knight.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 08:22 PM (W+vEI)

229 No, nothing I said assumes a superhero movie could not be great. I just don't think it's a coincidence that most are not good movies.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at September 08, 2018 08:23 PM (H5knJ)

230 What's a DVD?
Posted by: kids at September 08, 2018 08:22 PM (786Ro)


Git off my lawn!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 08:24 PM (feaxc)

231
My all time favorite revenge movies

Man On Fire


Denzel or Scott?
Posted by: you loved Brad at September 08, 2018 08:12 PM (FRlvP)







Denzel, by far. The Scott Glenn version sucks donkey balls. I don't give a fuck what Tarantino says.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 08:25 PM (eXA4G)

232 The first Christopher Reeve Superman movie, by the way, ought to be a template for how the character is done. "Batman V Superman" could have been a struggle between Superman's eternal optimism and Batman's ingrained cynicism. Instead they went with "stupid" instead.


I don't remember which one it was I or II but When Reeves wanted to tell Louis he was Superman and looked into the mirror took off his glasses stood straight up and squared his shoulders that was good acting because he looked totally different and he showed how people couldn't see Clark as Superman.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:25 PM (dKiJG)

233 >> I don't give a fuck what Tarantino says.

Show me dem feets!

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at September 08, 2018 08:26 PM (8O3HH)

234 Damn, stupid fumble by Clemson.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:26 PM (e7oj4)

235 Patrick: yup.

I believe too many studios today are controlled by two different groups:

- Chinese/international investors.
- The kids in the CGI department. "Moar servers means moar explosions!!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 08:27 PM (feaxc)

236 Who is this fumble-fingered Clemson fellow you keep going on about?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 08:27 PM (kQs4Y)

237 Show me dem feets!
Posted by: Quentin Tarantino

Seconded!

Posted by: Dick Morris at September 08, 2018 08:27 PM (xEuHL)

238 237 Show me dem feets!
Posted by: Quentin Tarantino

Seconded!

Posted by: Dick Morris at September 08, 2018 08:27 PM (xEuHL)



Hat trick!

Posted by: Rex Ryan at September 08, 2018 08:28 PM (cAnNx)

239 Forgot to add Equalizer in my list

Anybody seen II yet?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2018 08:29 PM (5kTP+)

240 No, nothing I said assumes a superhero movie could not be great. I just don't think it's a coincidence that most are not good movies.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls


I'm sure there's some corollary to Murphy's Law that a movie's quality is inversely proportional to it's budget. And superhero movies always get "summer blockbuster" budgets.

Ex: Avatar. Huge budget. Beautiful movie. And a script that would earn a C- in any creative-writing class.

Posted by: mikeski at September 08, 2018 08:29 PM (P1f+c)

241 redc1c4- I quit Coors 15 years ago. Went to Shiner and never went back.


Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 08:13 PM (zLDYs)

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here in #Failifornia, Shiner, or Shiner Bock, if i have my druthers, is an import, and priced accordingly.

these days, my canoe sex beer in "Simpler Times" lager from Trader Joe's

$6.50/12 and 6.2% ABV, so winning both ways. tastes pretty good, especially for that price point.

my preferred beer is the one they named after me, but it's not cheap, unlike its namesake: Arrogant Bastard Ale

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 08, 2018 08:30 PM (pJeub)

242 Good evening.

It's popular amongst Hollyweird types to rag on successful films. Superhero films make bank, ergo they're hated (until you're hired to star in one).

By the way, Hawke's First Reformed? Piece of shit.

Posted by: Robert at September 08, 2018 08:30 PM (/cL3k)

243 /cL3k ?

That's my new hash?

So...onomatopoeic.

Posted by: Robert at September 08, 2018 08:31 PM (/cL3k)

244 I don't give two shits about Ethan Hawke, but he's right about Logan. Overwrought nonsense. I disliked it from the opening, and it went downhill from there. Far, FAR too dark for any sort of "pop culture" genre.

Posted by: deadrody at September 08, 2018 08:31 PM (jsGbO)

245 >> Seconded!

Here ya go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4kwlHVfMgc

Posted by: Salma Hayek at September 08, 2018 08:32 PM (8O3HH)

246
It's all "OMG, we're the enemy!!" Ugh, angst.

The only time that worked for me was in The Dark Knight.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 08:22 PM (W+vEI)







Yet it's somewhat different in TDN. The Joker wasn't created by the heroes, he was innately evil and opportunistically took advantage of the situation. And most importantly, he manipulated Batman and Gordon into the "we are the enemy" situation/solution, which they took because out of many horrible courses of action it was the least evil.

That's infinitely more complex and interesting, which is one of the reasons it works so well.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 08:32 PM (eXA4G)

247 Yeah, at the beginning of Jack Ryan I was thinking "I don't think the backstory of the terrorist leader's childhood is something Tom Clancy would have given a shit about."

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:33 PM (e7oj4)

248 What's a DVD?
Posted by: kids at September 08, 2018 08:22 PM (786Ro)

Say that shit again and you get to spend a week with Kevin Spacey and a Roman Polanski.

Posted by: Robert at September 08, 2018 08:33 PM (/cL3k)

249 Ex: Avatar. Huge budget. Beautiful movie. And a script that would earn a C- in any creative-writing class.


Posted by: mikeski at September 08, 2018 08:29 PM (P1f+c)



Uh, would probably get an F for plagiarism. For either Dances with Wolves or Ferngully.

Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2018 08:33 PM (cAnNx)

250 2. "Ethan Hawke quit being a Knicks fan when he stopped getting free tickets"
-- Yahoo Sports, May 15, 2018

https://sports.yahoo.com/
ethan-hawke-quit-knicks-fan-stopped-getting-free-tickets-230959289.html
Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 07:25 PM (786Ro)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You're actually holding it against Ethan Hawke that he ended up in a feud with James Dolan, possibly THE worst owner in all of sports ?

More points, in my opinion.

Posted by: deadrody at September 08, 2018 08:34 PM (jsGbO)

251 I'm about this close to abandoning Jack Ryan owing to the whole making muzzie terrorists sympathetic thing. Oh, and the black partner is a converted muslim? Puhleeze.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:35 PM (+Tibp)

252 Show me dem feets!


Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at September 08, 2018 08:26 PM


No. I will not.

Posted by: rob liefeld at September 08, 2018 08:35 PM (LkFnL)

253 I grew sick of the Marvel Universe some time ago, but I did like Thor:Ragnarok, probably because it retained its sense of humor and made me laugh at points. Same thing in Ant Man.

I've realized now that the only Marvel Movies I like are the movies in which even the characters realize the entire marvel universe is one big joke.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2018 08:36 PM (V2Yro)

254 Going to see MY HERO ACADEMIA movie this month, the Japanese are doing a better job of telling super hero stories because they don't have all that PC crap and aren't trying to shove a message down your throat, just a good story.

I love the story of a Superman type hero mentoring a younger version of himself, you see the Kid grow make mistakes get hurt etc. the Female characters are treated equally and some even like to dress sexy.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:36 PM (dKiJG)

255 Well, there's a reason they're called COMIC books rather than TRAGIC books.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:36 PM (3Ezy2)

256 Uh, would probably get an F for plagiarism. For either Dances with Wolves or Ferngully."

You left out the Smurfs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2018 08:37 PM (V2Yro)

257 OK. True story. Recently someone came up the street opening unlocked cars at night. Apparently I left mine unlocked and they rooted around looking for loose change and stuff. The cops asked what was missing and I mentioned they didn't take the box of CDs in the backseat.

The 15 year old cop laughed and said no one uses CDs anymore.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:37 PM (MVjcR)

258 >>..That's infinitely more complex and interesting, which is one of the reasons it works so well.


Yes, exactly, and you've explained better than I could.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 08, 2018 08:38 PM (W+vEI)

259 Also, check my math, but I think the ginger CIA badass in Jack Ryan who called himself Garth in one episode might just be the King in the Bud Light Dilly Dilly commercials.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:38 PM (+Tibp)

260 The Trimegistobile has developed some odd quirks lately, one of which is spontaneously sounding the car alarm for no reason. There's no way to deactivate the damned thing, so I've taken to just not locking the car. The only things inside to steal are a snow shovel and a bag of, yes, CDs. I'm glad to hear they're safe.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:39 PM (3Ezy2)

261 Uh, would probably get an F for plagiarism. For either Dances with Wolves or Ferngully.

Posted by: buzzion


Well, most of the C- was for proper spelling and grammar.

Posted by: mikeski at September 08, 2018 08:39 PM (P1f+c)

262 Patrick Rothfuss has a great takedown of the snobbery toward "genre fiction" in under two minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFI30pcv4sM

Posted by: McLurkerson at September 08, 2018 08:40 PM (WP3Pq)

263 The only things inside to steal are a snow shovel and a bag of, yes, CDs.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:39 PM (3Ezy2)


For traction?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 08, 2018 08:40 PM (y87Qq)

264 Also, check my math, but I think the ginger CIA badass in Jack Ryan who called himself Garth in one episode might just be the King in the Bud Light Dilly Dilly commercials.
Posted by: Blutarski

So Garth got recruited by the Clowns after leaving Wayne's World?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 08:40 PM (xEuHL)

265 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:36 PM (dKiJG)

--How is the My Hero Academia show on Toonami?

I've seen ads, but it comes on at a time when it's hard to catch (we can't afford DVR right now ).

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:40 PM (e7oj4)

266 You're actually holding it against Ethan Hawke that he ended up in a feud with James Dolan, possibly THE worst owner in all of sports ?

More points, in my opinion.
Posted by: deadrody at September 08, 2018 08:34 PM



Sorry, wasn't my point. Point was Hawke complaining about money while taking freebies from someone. I've never heard of James Dolan till now. Read the Yahoo article to see Hawke bitching about it.

Posted by: kids at September 08, 2018 08:41 PM (786Ro)

267 So Garth got recruited by the Clowns after leaving Wayne's World?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power!

Hey! That's my wizard!

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:41 PM (+Tibp)

268 201 Didn't Wolverine have bone claws before his adamantium upgrade?

If not, which muscles and neural pathways operate the extend/retract thing? Humans don't come with extra USB ports to attach new peripherals.


i can't wiggle my ears, either.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 08, 2018 08:41 PM (1Kvij)

269 /off sock

Posted by: Hands at September 08, 2018 08:41 PM (786Ro)

270 Dr. Mrs. T. and I couldn't finish watching Avatar. It just got too stupid and predictable about the time the two sides were setting up for the big final battle. We could both tell exactly what was going to happen, and weren't interested in seeing it.

The only other movie we bailed out on was Pearl Harbor. For two hours we'd been saying "Only you can save us, Admiral Yamamoto!" and then after the attack we realized with horror that THE MOVIE KEPT ON GOING. At which point we stopped and sent it back to Netflix.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:41 PM (3Ezy2)

271 257 OK. True story. Recently someone came up the street opening unlocked cars at night. Apparently I left mine unlocked and they rooted around looking for loose change and stuff. "

They're not just looking for loose change - that's been happening a lot in a lot of places. I've had a cop I know tell me that a lot of times its young gang bangers, mostly mexican, who've figured out that there are way too many stupid people who will leave a handgun under the seat or in the console. That's what they're looking for. And yes, all you gotta do is watch the papers for how many reports there are of "yeah, somebody stole my gun out of my car, I forgot to lock it."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2018 08:42 PM (V2Yro)

272 Odd moment in Pearl Harbor: at one point you can see the USS Arizona memorial during the battle.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:44 PM (3Ezy2)

273 OK. True story. Recently someone came up the street opening unlocked cars at night. Apparently I left mine unlocked and they rooted around looking for loose change and stuff. The cops asked what was missing and I mentioned they didn't take the box of CDs in the backseat.
The 15 year old cop laughed and said no one uses CDs anymore.
Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:37 PM (MVjcR)

Teens and dope fiends do it to get items to sell or pawn. I think they call it "lifting" cars and if locked up they move on down the block.

If caught, they tell the PoPo that they thought it was their grannies house and oops! wrong car, so sorry.

Make sure to lock up before bed as they like to do neighborhoods in the early a.m.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 08, 2018 08:44 PM (EoRCO)

274 I'm about this close to abandoning Jack Ryan owing to the whole making muzzie terrorists sympathetic thing. Oh, and the black partner is a converted muslim? Puhleeze.
Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:35 PM (+Tibp)


Don't watch 7 DAYS IN ENTEBBE, it's shit, they sympathize the terrorists and DURING the hostage rescue they wedge in an interpretive dance for some damn reason.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:45 PM (dKiJG)

275 253 I grew sick of the Marvel Universe some time ago, but I did like Thor:Ragnarok, probably because it retained its sense of humor and made me laugh at points.

precisely. thor ragnarok is a comic book movie that feels like a comic book.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 08, 2018 08:45 PM (1Kvij)

276
My all time favorite revenge movies

Man On Fire

Denzel or Scott?
Posted by: you loved Brad


Crosby

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2018 08:45 PM (IqV8l)

277 Don't watch 7 DAYS IN ENTEBBE, it's shit, they sympathize the terrorists and DURING the hostage rescue they wedge in an interpretive dance for some damn reason.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

And it's such a great story that needs telling! I've seen two movies based on it and feel certain both were better than the recent offering.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 08:47 PM (+Tibp)

278 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:45 PM (dKiJG)

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 08, 2018 08:47 PM (b6JIq)

279 270 Dr. Mrs. T. and I couldn't finish watching Avatar. It just got too stupid and predictable about the time the two sides were setting up for the big final battle.

the only thing avatar had going for it was 3d. i enjoyed it in 3d, but found it unwatchable in 2d; even the colors seemed wrong.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 08, 2018 08:49 PM (1Kvij)

280 So, on the "genre" question... yes, every story has a genre.

Is it ordinary people doing ordinary things? Not even any intentional comedy? You could title it "Tuesday"? It's "slice-of-life."

At the other end, do you have no idea WTF is going on at all? Drugs aren't helping? It's "avant-garde".

No other stories like it? (a) I doubt it, and (2) fine, it's its own genre, then, until someone writes another one. Kind of like how sapiens is the only living species in the genus homo.

Posted by: mikeski at September 08, 2018 08:49 PM (P1f+c)

281 Don't watch 7 DAYS IN ENTEBBE, it's shit, they sympathize the terrorists and DURING the hostage rescue they wedge in an interpretive dance for some damn reason.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

I was equally disappointed by A Night In Paris. Digital cameras had very low picture quality back then and that girl needed a sammich.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 08:49 PM (xEuHL)

282
Odd moment in Pearl Harbor: at one point you can see the USS Arizona memorial during the battle.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:44 PM (3Ezy2)







And I thought that the scene with the Japs dropping napalm on the Perry-class frigates was bad....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 08:49 PM (eXA4G)

283 Just finished watching a Russian movie (via Amazon Prime) about the mission to salvage the Solyat 7 space station in 1985. Not a bad movie although I thought it went a bit too long. Very little in the way of CGI and it appeared that the Russians used a lot of models and mock-ups that actually gave a more "tactile" feel to the movie that the current Hollywood CGI-bloated movies.

It was interesting to see events from the former Soviet perspective and Uncle Palp would be proud of his fellow SMR. Of course, they gloss over the whole Commie Big Brother watching them.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 08, 2018 08:50 PM (5Yee7)

284 The only other movie we bailed out on was Pearl Harbor. For two hours we'd been saying "Only you can save us, Admiral Yamamoto!" and then after the attack we realized with horror that THE MOVIE KEPT ON GOING. At which point we stopped and sent it back to Netflix.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 08, 2018 08:41 PM (3Ezy2)

Easily the most disappointing movie I ran across. I remember in early 2001 seeing the trailer for it, thinking that Pearl Harbor was going to be EPIC. The truth was far more sinister. I hear Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970) was far superior.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 08, 2018 08:51 PM (XZgzl)

285 Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy....you obviously don't understand serious actor speak. You see, Logan is not a great movie because Ethan isn't in it.

I will say this about all superhero movies. They are not imaginative. Hollywood has very few good writers and studios don't want to pay a million dollars or more for a script. So, when CGI got developed enough so that your superhero moves didn't look like the Superman TV series of the 50's or the Batman series of the 60's, Hollywood jumped at the change to buy remade storylines. Storylines that were originally written for boys 6 though 16.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 08, 2018 08:52 PM (9BLnV)

286 Pearl Harbor Sucked:
https://youtu.be/SsPrQgTO0HU

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 08:52 PM (xEuHL)

287 265 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:36 PM (dKiJG)

--How is the My Hero Academia show on Toonami?

I've seen ads, but it comes on at a time when it's hard to catch (we can't afford DVR right now ).
Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:40 PM (e7oj4)

I watch thru Funimation and I think you can watch thru CrunchyRoll for free but have to watch some commercials.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:53 PM (dKiJG)

288 Shiner on draft most anywhere here in ETEX.

Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 08:55 PM (zLDYs)

289 From Paris with Love

Good movie, Travolta is in it but hell it doesn't pull its punches about Terrorism and Terrorists. If you haven't seen it watch it. Very fun movie.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:57 PM (dKiJG)

290 I liked Event Horizon. My husband and I mimic Fishburne's character when we are departing a place we don't like: "We're leaving!" Scary movie, but really good.

Posted by: jmel at September 08, 2018 08:57 PM (OeWgo)

291 I hear Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970) was far superior."

If you haven't seen it, you should. I have always considered Tora Tora Tora to be one of best/most accurate WW2 movies ever made. I suspect what (Hollywood) people don't like is that they don't have any big song and dance scenes to build up some "drama" about the characters or whatever nonsense it is that Pearl Harbor wasted 2/3 of the movie on. Tora Tora Tora shows you the forces, shows you the preparations of the opposing sides, shows you the battle as it happened, as accurately as they could, And it is brilliant! Everything that is important about that battle, you are shown as clearly and accurately as possible, and any bullcrap that didn't belong in a movie about Pearl Harbor got left out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2018 08:57 PM (V2Yro)

292 Speaking of DVDA, when is Hollywood going to do a CGIed up, super high-budget remake of Orgazmo?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 08:58 PM (xEuHL)

293 283: but not interesting enough to mention the title?

Posted by: Anachronda at September 08, 2018 08:58 PM (1Kvij)

294 Fuck superhero movies until they bring back color!

I want Superman's costume to be RED, BLUE & YELLOW! Not maroon, gray with a hint of blue, and dim gold.

Whatever happened to yellow? Everything that used to be yellow on a superhero has been turned to dim gold.

I'm so damned sick of it.

It DOES NOT make the movie "more realistic." It DOES NOT make the movie "more serious."

Posted by: RKae at September 08, 2018 08:59 PM (z/Stl)

295 Maybe I missed it/them, but 300 comments without mention of the movie the pic up top is from?

Posted by: davidt at September 08, 2018 08:59 PM (DZOpY)

296

The problem I have with Logan is the over the top violence involving children.

Posted by: Frankly at September 08, 2018 09:00 PM (ClVoC)

297 All movies made today have to show America as the bad guy. That really takes talent.

Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 09:00 PM (zLDYs)

298 I liked Event Horizon. My husband and I mimic Fishburne's character when we are departing a place we don't like: "We're leaving!" Scary movie, but really good.
Posted by: jmel

Interesting concept and had Sam Neill as a demoniac. What's not to like?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 09:01 PM (xEuHL)

299 "On TCM tonight, Sean Connery in Robin and Marian and then The Man Who Would Be King. High adventure!

King is a great movie. And yes a genre flick.

Like Blazing Saddles, couldn't get made today.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:01 PM (1UZdv)

300
That Ethan Hawke thing reminds me of Sean Penn's rather infamous interview on Inside the Actor's Studio where he claimed that film's purpose isn't to entertain. As he put it, "if you want to be entertained, go buy a hooker and an eight-ball".

Horseshit. From it's very beginning, narrative film was ENTERTAINMENT, specifically, genre. The first narrative films were Westerns, Comedies, and SciFi. Serious drama in film didn't happen until much later.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:02 PM (eXA4G)

301 All movies made today have to show America as the bad guy. That really takes talent.
Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 09:00 PM (zLDYs)

Did you say talent? "Bornnnnnn in the USA!, Bornnnn in the USA!".....

I got it in spades.

Posted by: The Boss at September 08, 2018 09:02 PM (EoRCO)

302 On TCM tonight, Sean Connery in Robin and Marian and then The Man Who Would Be King. High adventure!

----

I used to weep like ghost at the end of Robin & Marian.

Now that I've seen it 100 times, I weep as it's starting, just because I know what's going to happen 2 hours later.

Posted by: RKae at September 08, 2018 09:03 PM (z/Stl)

303 252 Show me dem feets!

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at September 08, 2018 08:26 PM

No. I will not.

Posted by: rob liefeld at September 08, 2018 08:35 PM (LkFnL)


C'mon, Rob! Don't be like that!

Posted by: zombie Don Martin at September 08, 2018 09:03 PM (NL6wI)

304 From Paris with Love

Good movie, Travolta is in it but hell it doesn't pull its punches about Terrorism and Terrorists. If you haven't seen it watch it. Very fun movie.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:57 PM (dKiJG)


It's been a few years since I've seen it, but I enjoyed it. Probably wouldn't be made in Hollywood now because the movie's theme is that you can trust Mohammadans until you suddenly can't. One of the American character's is in denial that his Mohammadan wife is actually a terrorist.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 08, 2018 09:04 PM (5Yee7)

305 Didn't they try to remake KELLY'S HEROES again but in the Iraq war and I don't mean the Goerge Clooney piece of crap.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 09:04 PM (dKiJG)

306 More movies I've never seen. Oh well, I think I can go OT now.

Just put the tools away from another afternoon of dismembering the steenkin' Lincoln. Rear air suspension, and shocks: out. Rear axle: out.

And Pinnacle whipped cream vodka, mixed with lemon-lime Gatorade makes an OK drink.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2018 09:04 PM (iwUO9)

307 "The 15 year old cop laughed and said no one uses CDs anymore. "

Happened to me. Lost hundreds in retail value. Thief probably got $10 for the lot.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:05 PM (1UZdv)

308 M (MVjcR)

Teens and dope fiends do it to get items to sell or pawn. I think they call it "lifting" cars and if locked up they move on down the block.

If caught, they tell the PoPo that they thought it was their grannies house and oops! wrong car, so sorry.

Make sure to lock up before bed as they like to do neighborhoods in the early a.m.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 08, 2018 08:44 PM (EoRCO)
-----
Yep. I always lock it too, except when criminals are sneaking around.

And WeaselDog, who can hear a package of crackers opening four miles away, slept through the whole thing.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 09:06 PM (MVjcR)

309 Black Panther is not the worst Marvel movie.
Thor 2, Iron Man 2 and 3 exist.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 08, 2018 09:06 PM (xJa6I)

310 252 Show me dem feets!

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at September 08, 2018 08:26 PM

----

I'm gonna nail you for picking your feet in Poughkeepsie.

Posted by: RKae at September 08, 2018 09:07 PM (z/Stl)

311
From Paris with Love

Good movie, Travolta is in it but hell it doesn't pull its punches about Terrorism and Terrorists. If you haven't seen it watch it. Very fun movie.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:57 PM (dKiJG)

It's been a few years since I've seen it, but I enjoyed it. Probably wouldn't be made in Hollywood now because the movie's theme is that you can trust Mohammadans until you suddenly can't. One of the American character's is in denial that his Mohammadan wife is actually a terrorist.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 08, 2018 09:04 PM (5Yee7)






Although, it really isn't a Hollywood film as such, it's more a French production. There's not a lot to admire the Frogs for, but they've shown themselves to be MUCH more willing to make films showing the mohammedans as the savages they are.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:07 PM (eXA4G)

312 Just put the tools away from another afternoon of dismembering the steenkin' Lincoln. Rear air suspension, and shocks: out. Rear axle: out.

And Pinnacle whipped cream vodka, mixed with lemon-lime Gatorade makes an OK drink.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

So you were driven to drinkin'
by that Hot Rod Lincoln?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 09:08 PM (xEuHL)

313 307 "The 15 year old cop laughed and said no one uses CDs anymore. "

Happened to me. Lost hundreds in retail value. Thief probably got $10 for the lot.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:05 PM (1UZdv)
-------
Fortunately for me, my criminals apparently don't like blues and rock & roll

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 09:08 PM (MVjcR)

314 Well . fuck Thor Ragnarok, idiotic movie. But the worst part is, they used Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song"

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at September 08, 2018 09:08 PM (WTcEx)

315 And yes, like most actors, Ethan Hawke is an idiot.
The only actors I've know who weren't idiots were part-timers who had full time real jobs on the 'side'. (The Microsoft Theatre Troupe had some damn fine actors in it when I was involved)

So I don't care about what actors say or think about anything. I've known too many of the shallow, insecure twits.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 08, 2018 09:08 PM (xJa6I)

316 From what I've heard it seems to be a film that spans 9 different genres and plot types...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 07:25 PM (feaxc)

Never seen it, but apparently they used a bunch of Studebaker Avantis to pose as ultra-futuristic electric cars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2018 09:09 PM (iwUO9)

317 The Frogs made Taken, the Liam Neeson flick.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:10 PM (1UZdv)

318 Still, good post TJM. Enjoyed reading it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 08, 2018 09:10 PM (xJa6I)

319 Logan sucks disk and licks sweaty taint but other than that i will never see it again.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 08, 2018 09:10 PM (pw+jk)

320 So I don't care about what actors say or think about anything. I've known too many of the shallow, insecure twits.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Alice Cooper said pretty much the same thing about musicians.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 09:10 PM (xEuHL)

321 Greetings:

New Chicom movie "Detective Dee: The Heavenly Kings"

Posted by: 11B40 at September 08, 2018 09:11 PM (evgyj)

322 I hear Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970) was far superior.

-
In Harm's Way, a!though fiction, is another good movie including the Pearl Harbor attack.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2018 09:11 PM (5Mk4N)

323 New Chicom movie "Detective Dee: The Heavenly Kings"
Posted by: 11B40

Does it have the fantasy, sorcery stuff in it, or is it just good old Judge Dee? Probably good either way.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 09:12 PM (+Tibp)

324 287 265 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:36 PM (dKiJG)

--How is the My Hero Academia show on Toonami?

I've seen ads, but it comes on at a time when it's hard to catch (we can't afford DVR right now ).
Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 08:40 PM (e7oj4)

I watch thru Funimation and I think you can watch thru CrunchyRoll for free but have to watch some commercials.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 08:53 PM (dKiJG)

It's also on Hulu. My Hero Academia is really good.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 08, 2018 09:13 PM (NWiLs)

325 Tried to show the wife the movie 'Clue', which is one of my 100 top movies and hilariously funny.

She got bored 10 min in.

So I put in Grand Torino. And she watched every second of it.

People have weird tastes but at least the wife has some taste.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 08, 2018 09:14 PM (xJa6I)

326 I was in a production of the Magic Flute. It used 6 D cell batteries.

Posted by: Sandra F. - now with more of me to love at September 08, 2018 09:14 PM (sXefu)

327 The Man Who Would Be King. High adventure!

-
Michael Caine, Sean Connery, what's not to like?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2018 09:14 PM (5Mk4N)

328
317 The Frogs made Taken, the Liam Neeson flick.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:10 PM (1UZdv)







"But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Ribbit."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:14 PM (eXA4G)

329 Although, it really isn't a Hollywood film as such, it's more a French production. There's not a lot to admire the Frogs for, but they've shown themselves to be MUCH more willing to make films showing the mohammedans as the savages they are.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:07 PM (eXA4G)


I didn't realize that From Paris with Love was a French production. That does bring up the topic that it is the Transnational Socialist "elite" that excuses the Mohammadan terrorism since the Tranzies see them as a tool in their war against Western Civilization, individual freedom and capitalism.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 08, 2018 09:14 PM (5Yee7)

330 Logan tried to be serious and answer what happens when superheroes get old.

I wish my life was non-stop Hollywood movie show
A fantasy world of celluloid villains and heroes
Because celluloid heroes never feel any pain
And celluloid heroes never really die

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:14 PM (1UZdv)

331 320 So I don't care about what actors say or think about anything. I've known too many of the shallow, insecure twits.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Alice Cooper said pretty much the same thing about musicians.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 09:10 PM (xEuHL)

Alice Cooper is one based, cool cat.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 08, 2018 09:14 PM (xJa6I)

332 Ever notice how some people can't just say, "I didn't like it!"? Instead they say, "I did not like it and YOU did not like it either. And now I am going to tell you exactly why YOU didn't like it."

Sorry Mr. Hawke, sir, I liked Logan. It was a downer but two actors I like got to say goodbye to characters I like.

Posted by: JB1000 at September 08, 2018 09:15 PM (d/4fn)

333 290 I liked Event Horizon. My husband and I mimic Fishburne's character when we are departing a place we don't like: "We're leaving!" Scary movie, but really good.
Posted by: jmel at September 08, 2018 08:57 PM (OeWgo)

And it's officially Warhammer 40k canon, apparently for us board game grognard geeks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 08, 2018 09:16 PM (xJa6I)

334 TD Clemson

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:16 PM (e7oj4)

335 speaking of Pearl Harbor movies, how about 1941?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 08, 2018 09:17 PM (pJeub)

336 Don't hate on Luhrmann. He's weird as hell, but talented.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 08, 2018 07:45 PM (rhlLd)

Bax Luhrman was the perpetrator of "The Sunscreen Song", and for that sin alone, he should spend eternity cycling between the nine circles of Hell.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2018 09:17 PM (iwUO9)

337 291..... I have always considered Tora Tora Tora to be one of best/most accurate WW2 movies ever made. I suspect what (Hollywood) people don't like is that they don't have any big song and dance scenes to build up some "drama" about the characters or whatever nonsense it is that Pearl Harbor wasted 2/3 of the movie on.....
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2018 08:57 PM (V2Yro)
--------------------------------
I am not a war-movie afficionado but I'll second that endorsement. VERY good movie.

BTW, I want the "drama," as you put it. I usually only like action or military movies that have interesting characters and personal drama.
(Bridge on the River Kwai is a good example.)

BUT I have discovered that, in war movies at least, I would prefer no "drama" at all to bad, cliched crap. I hated Pearl Harbor. It doesn't do ANYTHING well.

If you want personal drama in a Pearl H setting, watch From Here to Eternity.
If you want the war story, watch TTT.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 08, 2018 09:18 PM (0jtPF)

338 Okey dokey. Time for bed. Night everyone.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 09:18 PM (MVjcR)

339 How can you not mention COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO the French version is better. They show the prosecutor hiring an abortionist to kill his lovers baby and they bury it the Garden. You won't get that in Hollywood EVER.

The Man From Nowhere
Korean movie about Gansters kidnap a neighbor's kid whose mother stole drugs and sell the Kids to an Chinese Organ harvesting Gang. So he goes on a murder spree to get the kid back

A BollyWood film company bought the rights to MAN FRON NOWHERE called ROCKY HANDSOME, I like both but Rocky Handsoome has a haunting song that's really a prayer part of it is in English it was good wish I could buy the song.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 09:18 PM (dKiJG)

340 Insty links to twitchy about a "writer" who walks back and apologizes for his Zina Bash ok sign freak out.

The write turns out to be Patterico. Wow. NeverTrump really makes people crazy. And Patterico was not even recognized by Insty he was just a writer.

Haha.

And seriously people the OK sign just means OK.

Posted by: blaster at September 08, 2018 09:18 PM (DH5wZ)

341 "Alice Cooper is one based, cool cat."

Yes. And his early band were outstanding talents.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:19 PM (1UZdv)

342 257 The 15 year old cop laughed and said no one uses CDs anymore.

Posted by: Weasel at September 08, 2018 08:37 PM (MVjcR)


I still buy them, immediately rip them securely and losslessly to FLAC, then stow them away.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 08, 2018 09:19 PM (NL6wI)

343 Well, Dabo, I gotta leave this in your capable hands. Tomorrow will be here afore I can turn around.

Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 09:19 PM (zLDYs)

344 speaking of Pearl Harbor movies, how about 1941?
Posted by: redc1c4

Underrated classic.
This isn't the state of California, this is a state of insanity.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 09:20 PM (xEuHL)

345 All movies made today have to show America as the bad guy. That really takes talent.
Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2018 09:00 PM

Made by Leftists so what do you expect?

Posted by: Skip at September 08, 2018 09:21 PM (T4oHT)

346 Rule 1. Movies made from French comic books are horrible.

Posted by: blaster at September 08, 2018 09:21 PM (DH5wZ)

347 Underrated classic.
This isn't the state of California, this is a state of insanity.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power!

Hey! Hey! Get in the back of the tank!

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 09:21 PM (+Tibp)

348 My favorite WWII Pacific theater war movie is Lee Marvin's, Hell in the Pacific

Posted by: davidt at September 08, 2018 09:22 PM (DZOpY)

349 Nice TD by the Aggies

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:22 PM (e7oj4)

350
346 Rule 1. Movies made from French comic books are horrible.
Posted by: blaster at September 08, 2018 09:21 PM (DH5wZ)







Heavy Metal - The exception that proves the rule.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:22 PM (eXA4G)

351 Black Panther is not the worst Marvel movie.
Thor 2, Iron Man 2 and 3 exist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 08, 2018 09:06 PM (xJa6I)

Black Panther is much worse than those 3 because it tries to SJW about race. The others are just escapist entertainment, although they dabble in politically correct topics. Black Panther is the movie world equivalent of "black Africans created the Pyramids using their flying powers and are responsible for all the knowledge of the world which YT took from them and then sucked that knowledge out of their heads". I've always wondered how sucking the knowledge and memories out of a person's head somehow escaped those black geniuses we owe so much to. And how were they enslaved by such primitive people like YT. Well, primitive except for the knowledge sucking power.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 08, 2018 09:24 PM (9BLnV)

352
My favorite WWII Pacific theater war movie is Lee Marvin's, Hell in the Pacific
Posted by: davidt at September 08, 2018 09:22 PM (DZOpY)








Great flick. With Marvin and Mifune, probably the single most testosterone-soaked film ever made.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:24 PM (eXA4G)

353 Oh man, I hated Event Horizon. I've never really liked Sam Neill. He always seems slightly creepy to me. Maybe because the first movie I remember seeing him in was one of The Omen movies. Gattaca is one of my favorite sci-fi flicks. I kind of just like actors when they are saying lines someone else wrote. I don't care about their opinions about movies anymore than I do about critics opinions. I like what I like. So, there.

Posted by: no good deed at September 08, 2018 09:24 PM (1uG1d)

354 yikes, I agree with Eris again about a movie. Gattaca is great stuff. couldn't say how many times I've watched it.

Posted by: Gooshy at September 08, 2018 09:24 PM (ztpxH)

355 Hunter Renfrow is a beast.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:25 PM (e7oj4)

356 How will the bones even grow? makes no sense...

Posted by: Don Q at September 08, 2018 08:08 PM (NgKpN)

Superhero movies, virtually by definition, don't make sense. Which is why they are mostly crap.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2018 09:26 PM (iwUO9)

357 the vagrants and junkies in my AO steal just about anything, including CD's, which they sell at the used record stores...

they also have a device, easily bought for ~$20-30 that opens electronic car door locks. the only solutions is to leave *nothing* of value in your vehicle, not even pocket change.

i drive a BTS Toyota Tacoma, with obvious junk behind the seats, and empty water/Powerade bottles in the passenger seat floor well... it's never been bothered.

herself has a MB SLK. she also leaves *nothing* in it, not even the owners manual. never been opened, AFAWK, but they did steal the running lights off the front of the previous model.

some idiot up the hill complained on NextDoor awhile back that her brat's school bags and such had been stolen from the back of her mom-mobile for the THIRD time...

because her family is obviously too stupid to figure it out from the first or second thefts that leaving anything of value in your vehicle is an invitation to have it stolen.

good thing for her that breathing is autonomic, eh?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 08, 2018 09:26 PM (pJeub)

358 Is there a better actor at playing a prick than Robert Shaw.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:26 PM (1UZdv)

359 Blood Rain

Korean Christian movie and Murder Mystery, gritty, good plot.great acting.

If you haven't seen it I don't want to spoil it

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 08, 2018 09:26 PM (dKiJG)

360 Who the hell is Samford?

Posted by: Zombie Burt Reynolds at September 08, 2018 09:26 PM (EoRCO)

361 That was a cool trick play and it almost worked!

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:27 PM (e7oj4)

362 348
My favorite WWII Pacific theater war movie is Lee Marvin's, Hell in the Pacific

Great movie. 2 actors in the movie, hilarious.

Posted by: dartist at September 08, 2018 09:27 PM (K22Va)

363 I'm taking a break from the book to eat dinner.

Earlier I mentioned "Isaac's Storm" about the 1900 Galveston hurricane.

Then I learned that Sept. 8-9 is the anniversary. Sept. 8 was even on a Saturday that year, too.

So I was like, shit, I *have* to read it now. I'm about 1/3 through it. I don't know if I'll finish it tonight, but definitely will this weekend.

Posted by: rickl at September 08, 2018 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

364 Watching Robin and Marian (1976). They must have spent a lot of money to make Sean Connery look so bald

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:29 PM (1UZdv)

365 Who the hell is Samford?
Posted by: Zombie Burt Reynolds

Don't' you know, you big dummy?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 09:29 PM (xEuHL)

366 Is there a better actor at playing a prick than Robert Shaw.

I don't know, but Ernest Borgnine was great at playing a sadistic bastard in Emperor of the North.

Posted by: no good deed at September 08, 2018 09:30 PM (1uG1d)

367 Hell in the Pacific, no subtitles for the English or Japanese, I can see a Japanese audience getting as much from the movie as an American.

Posted by: davidt at September 08, 2018 09:30 PM (DZOpY)

368
Watching Robin and Marian (1976). They must have spent a lot of money to make Sean Connery look so bald
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:29 PM (1UZdv)








Yeah, by paying him enough to make him agree to leave his toupee at home.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:30 PM (eXA4G)

369 "Great movie. 2 actors in the movie, hilarious."

My favorite WWII movie is also (mostly) two actors on an island, Heaven Knows Mr Allison. Robert Mitchum and Deborah Kerr.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:32 PM (1UZdv)

370 I have only seen one Luhrmann film: Moulin Rouge. Yes, it is mostly derivative but it's a visual masterpiece IMO. And it is fun and, sometimes, poignant. The tango sequence to Roxanne is fascinating and powerful.

Posted by: JTB at September 08, 2018 09:32 PM (V+03K)

371 Lee Marvin was great in Eight Iron Men and Attack for WW2 movies as well.

Posted by: dartist at September 08, 2018 09:32 PM (K22Va)

372 Later tonight my local PBS is running To Have and Have Not with Bogey and Bacall. Nice.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 09:33 PM (+Tibp)

373 360 Who the hell is Samford?
Posted by: Zombie Burt Reynolds at September 08, 2018 09:26 PM (EoRCO)

--I dunno Burt, but FSU is looking like a diaper fire this season.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:33 PM (e7oj4)

374 I wonder how Archer is taking the news of Burt Reynold's death.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 08, 2018 09:34 PM (m9Hvu)

375 Did FSU do a Burt Reynolds thing before the game

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:34 PM (1UZdv)

376 Samford? Eh? Who is zat??

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 09:34 PM (4lu7W)

377 372 Later tonight my local PBS is running To Have and Have Not with Bogey and Bacall. Nice.
Posted by: Blutarski at September 08, 2018 09:33 PM (+Tibp)

--Isn't that the movie with Hoagy playing "Georgia on my Mind"?

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (e7oj4)

378 Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 08, 2018 09:24 PM (9BLnV)

Eh. It's stupid, Wakanda looks cool - it's practically a character rather than a location - but doesn't make logical sense.

But it could have been a LOT more preachy about the evil white people. It was far less SJW than I expected, so it might be an expectation thing. I was braced for worse and most of the bad guys were black, not white.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (xJa6I)

379 My favorite WWII movie is also (mostly) two actors on an island, Heaven Knows Mr Allison. Robert Mitchum and Deborah Kerr.

Another really good one about the South Pacific during WWII.

Posted by: dartist at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (K22Va)

380 yikes, I agree with Eris again about a movie.
---
I KNEW you'd like Shaving Ryan's Privates!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (kQs4Y)

381 This goes out to the late Mr. Reynolds:
https://youtu.be/uHZJej98_T0

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (xEuHL)

382 360 Who the hell is Samford?
Posted by: Zombie Burt Reynolds at September 08, 2018 09:26 PM (EoRCO)
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Fairly small school in Alabama. Birmingham, I believe.
It's a decent school and well worth attending since you can ever thereafter say you went to Stanford.
If they ever find out the truth, they'll just think they misheard.

Or did you mean Sam Ford?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (0jtPF)

383 Who the hell is Samford?

He's a no-good heathen!

Posted by: Zombie Aunt Esther at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (Tyii7)

384 I have only seen one Luhrmann film: Moulin Rouge.

Strictly Ballroom is fun. He kept the same kind of frenetic, tightly shot closeups that make people appear more manic from this for Moulin Rouge, I think.

Posted by: no good deed at September 08, 2018 09:36 PM (1uG1d)

385 Hawk isn't wrong. Logan is *almost* a great film, but they kind of gave up in the last half hour and finished it like a standard superhero movie. Should have come up with a better plot twist than super plot serum. Good movie, though.

Posted by: I thought Ethan Hawk was Tom Cruise's character in Mission Impossible at September 08, 2018 09:37 PM (58Y0p)

386 374 I wonder how Archer is taking the news of Burt Reynold's death.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 08, 2018 09:34 PM (m9Hvu)
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I hope nobody tells him! He's in a coma and this might cut his tether to this world.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 09:37 PM (kQs4Y)

387 Why, yes, it is:

https://youtu.be/5k0bKSJOywc

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:37 PM (e7oj4)

388 A&M is rocking and rolling. Hope they can make a game of this.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 09:37 PM (4lu7W)

389 He's a no-good heathen!
Posted by: Zombie Aunt Esther

I'm gonna press yo face in dough and make gorilla cookies.

Posted by: Fred Sanford at September 08, 2018 09:38 PM (xEuHL)

390 preachy about the evil white people.

-
Didja hear the news from Texas? The elites want to stop referring to the defenders of the Alamo as heroic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 08, 2018 09:38 PM (5Mk4N)

391 JTB

The first Luhrmann film, Strictly Ballroom is luminous.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 08, 2018 09:38 PM (hyuyC)

392 Have a great night, everyone. May you all be bragging, not complaining.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 08, 2018 09:39 PM (hyuyC)

393 They're not just looking for loose change - that's been happening a lot in a lot of places. I've had a cop I know tell me that a lot of times its young gang bangers, mostly mexican, who've figured out that there are way too many stupid people who will leave a handgun under the seat or in the console. That's what they're looking for. And yes, all you gotta do is watch the papers for how many reports there are of "yeah, somebody stole my gun out of my car, I forgot to lock it."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 08, 2018 08:42 PM (V2Yro)

Thinking of a "bait gun", with a partly-blocked barrel, and top cartridge in the mag loaded with dynamite instead of smokeless powder. The thief with his hand blown off would have to confess to burglary for the cops to get a fix on where he got the gun. "Who you gonna believe, officer, solid citizen me, or some lying gang-banger?"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2018 09:39 PM (iwUO9)

394 Fairly small school in Alabama. Birmingham, I believe.
It's a decent school and well worth attending since you can ever thereafter say you went to Stanford.
If they ever find out the truth, they'll just think they misheard.

Or did you mean Sam Ford?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (0jtPF)

--Jimbo Fisher played QB at Samford.

As did Bobby Bowden.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:39 PM (e7oj4)

395
Why, yes, it is:

https://youtu.be/5k0bKSJOywc
Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:37 PM (e7oj4)






Despite the photo in the clip, Georgia on My Mind isn't in the movie.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:40 PM (eXA4G)

396 Just watched "Thor: Ragnarok." We enjoyed it, but most of the time it felt more like a comedy than an action movie.

"You're late."
"You're missing an eye."

Posted by: pookysgirl at September 08, 2018 09:40 PM (XKZwp)

397 I saw Bergman's "The Magic Flute" in a little art theater when it first came out. Delightful and enchanting.

Posted by: Tuna at September 08, 2018 09:40 PM (jm1YL)

398 So you were driven to drinkin'
by that Hot Rod Lincoln?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Now with 30% More Dark Mysteries of Power! at September 08, 2018 09:08 PM (xEuHL)

sounds like it to me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2018 09:42 PM (iwUO9)

399
Didja hear the news from Texas? The elites want to stop referring to the defenders of the Alamo as heroic.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


Hirohito demands a recount!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2018 09:42 PM (IqV8l)

400 Ragnarok was pure eye candy for me. He is a hottie. I watched it while working out for some additional oomph.

Posted by: IC at September 08, 2018 09:43 PM (4lu7W)

401 Sweet, Kentucky is up on the Gaytors again.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:43 PM (e7oj4)

402 Calling it as soon as white Lightning is over

Posted by: Skip at September 08, 2018 09:43 PM (T4oHT)

403 O/T
Love how Trump took down Obama by just saying Obama talking (... and furthermore) just put him to sleep. So true ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:43 PM (1UZdv)

404
Thinking of a "bait gun", with a partly-blocked barrel, and top cartridge in the mag loaded with dynamite instead of smokeless powder. The thief with his hand blown off would have to confess to burglary for the cops to get a fix on where he got the gun. "Who you gonna believe, officer, solid citizen me, or some lying gang-banger?"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2018 09:39 PM (iwUO9)






Like SOG used to do in Vietnam. They'd find the VC's weapons caches in the jungle, and replace some of the AK rounds with rounds that had their powder replaced with C4. Kablooie. The object being to make the Cong distrust any ammo in their stashes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:43 PM (eXA4G)

405 Despite the photo in the clip, Georgia on My Mind isn't in the movie.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 09:40 PM (eXA4G)

--I think every time I see HC, I immediately think "Georgia"

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:44 PM (e7oj4)

406 Damn, fine TD by Aggies.

This is a shootout now.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:45 PM (e7oj4)

407 380 yikes, I agree with Eris again about a movie.
---
I KNEW you'd like Shaving Ryan's Privates!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 09:35 PM (kQs4Y)

---

Ooook...

Posted by: SMH at September 08, 2018 09:45 PM (o8Bqg)

408 393-----Jimbo Fisher played QB at Samford.

As did Bobby Bowden.
Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 09:39 PM (e7oj4)
-----------------------------
Well, tie me to an anthill and smear my ear with jam.
I had no idea.
Wow.

I have a friend who taught there a decade or so ago and loved it. But she's never said a word about athletics.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 08, 2018 09:45 PM (0jtPF)

409 Ooook...
Posted by: SMH at September 08, 2018 09:45 PM (o8Bqg)
---

Ooh, too soon? Sorry!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 09:47 PM (kQs4Y)

410 Oh, so you want to look like the Valkyrie, IC? Hope you have white face paint handy!

Posted by: pookysgirl at September 08, 2018 09:48 PM (XKZwp)

411 403 O/T
Love how Trump took down Obama by just saying Obama talking (... and furthermore) just put him to sleep. So true ...
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:43 PM (1UZdv)
----------------------
That one was beyond brilliant.
Straight to the jugular --- calling the Lightbringer boring!!! --- but nothing the MSM can grab onto and turn back against Trump.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 08, 2018 09:48 PM (0jtPF)

412
at 380

Bwahahaha!

Posted by: Gooshy at September 08, 2018 09:48 PM (ztpxH)

413 When Fear the Walking Dead came out, they had "making of" videos and actress Kim Dickens started talking about how she hadn't expected much from acting in genre, but how the characters were all so real that it was almost as good as acting in a real production. My first thought was, lady! Your naked boob got groped by the invisible man, and you're above this role?
Her interview made it difficult to accept here performance in the first few episodes of the show. I was quite glad when she finally got killed off.

Posted by: Senator Farticus at September 08, 2018 09:48 PM (VWE5i)

414 I second (or third or whatever where up to now) the sentiment that both Gattaca and Predestination are outstanding films.

Posted by: Jim S. at September 08, 2018 09:49 PM (ynUnH)

415 Ooh, too soon? Sorry!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at September 08, 2018 09:47 PM (kQs4Y)

---

LOL!

ow.

Posted by: SMH at September 08, 2018 09:49 PM (o8Bqg)

416 ONT is up

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 08, 2018 09:50 PM (I16G8)

417 Trying an inception thing for TJM.

Granted, there are a lot of good actors out there. But how rare is it when you literally forget who the actor is? I mean truly.

I offer two examples (granted, from a TV miniseries, but it counts, IMO)

Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones in Lonesome Dove. First time I saw it I was several minutes past the opening credits. Took me twenty minutes to holler "holy shit, that Robert Duvall. Took me even longer to recognize Jones.

That, my friends is rare. Very rare. And it was done without benefit of a lot of makeup.

Charlize Theron in Monster is another great example.


Been watching Game of Thrones lately. While it's impossible not to recognize Peter Dinklage, his performance as Tyrion Lannister is absolutely magnificent. In fact, as I read the books some years ago, I had Dinklage in mind.


Eh. Food for thought.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at September 08, 2018 09:50 PM (ma19p)

418 "speaking of Pearl Harbor movies, how about 1941?"

1941 is one of the few movies that my dad bought on VHS tape when it came out. I remember watching it about 25 times one summer ('81 or '82) simply because that's all we had. I was only 9 or 10, and didn't even get half the jokes. Maybe I should watch it again?

Posted by: Chris M at September 08, 2018 09:51 PM (6XZdO)

419 ''Strictly Ballroom is fun. He kept the same kind of frenetic, tightly shot closeups that make people appear more manic from this for Moulin Rouge, I think.''

''Strictly Ballroom" is a wonderful movie. Besides the most entertaining Aussie character actors you have the 2 young leads who had some great chemistry. It really is worth watching.

Posted by: Tuna at September 08, 2018 09:51 PM (jm1YL)

420 "But how rare is it when you literally forget who the actor is? I mean truly."

Tom Hardy is great at this. He does it with his voices.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:54 PM (1UZdv)

421 Seeing the role Dinklage had in "Infinity Gauntlet" was a hoot.

Spoiler: It wasn't Pip.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 08, 2018 09:54 PM (PAtUJ)

422 ''Watching Robin and Marian (1976). They must have spent a lot of money to make Sean Connery look so bald ''

That movie had some serious sound issues.

Posted by: Tuna at September 08, 2018 09:55 PM (jm1YL)

423 There are two types of people in the world: Those who have never seen nor even heard of Secret of NIMH, and those that think it is one of the best animated movies ever. There is almost nothing in between....

Posted by: Castle Guy at September 08, 2018 09:56 PM (Lhaco)

424 Tom Hardy is great at this. He does it with his voices.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 09:54 PM (1UZdv)

totally agree. He is the best of the bunch (kind of a sorry bunch) these days. He can do comedy as well, which is cool: Rock-n-Rolla for example.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at September 08, 2018 09:58 PM (ma19p)

425 ''That one was beyond brilliant.
Straight to the jugular --- calling the Lightbringer boring!!! --- but nothing the MSM can grab onto and turn back against Trump.''

PDT is baiting Oblahblah. He of the enormous ego must have been steamed when he read that comment..

Posted by: Tuna at September 08, 2018 09:58 PM (jm1YL)

426 Thanks to TJM for yet another great weekend movie thread. Sorry I had to miss last week, I was in Colorado. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 08, 2018 09:59 PM (feaxc)

427 The Secret of NIMH is based on the book, "Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH. My all time favorite bookk I must have read two dozen times as a kid. I was very pleasantly surprised when my daughter brought the book home from school last year and told me it was her favorite. She was surprised when I went into my crap box and pulled out my copy of the same book from 40 years ago.

Posted by: Dax at September 08, 2018 10:00 PM (/S1ka)

428 ''There are two types of people in the world: Those who have never seen nor even heard of Secret of NIMH, and those that think it is one of the best animated movies ever. There is almost nothing in between....''

My son loved it. We also had the book which I must have read to him at least 100 times.

Posted by: Tuna at September 08, 2018 10:00 PM (jm1YL)

429 Aggies are shredding the Clemson secondary

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 10:00 PM (e7oj4)

430 Mentioned above.

One of the greatest adventure flicks ever starting on TCM

The Man Who Would Be King

Couldn't be made today

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 10:01 PM (1UZdv)

431 Connery, Caine and Plummer all still with us.

Sadly, not for long.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 08, 2018 10:06 PM (1UZdv)

432 427 The Secret of NIMH is based on the book, "Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH. My all time favorite bookk I must have read two dozen times as a kid. I was very pleasantly surprised when my daughter brought the book home from school last year and told me it was her favorite. She was surprised when I went into my crap box and pulled out my copy of the same book from 40 years ago.
Posted by: Dax at September 08, 2018 10:00 PM (/S1ka)

--It is a cool book.

But I like Watership Down even more.

A book about rats, and a book about rabbits.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 10:06 PM (e7oj4)

433 Heh, the Jayhawks have a player named Pooka Williams Jr.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2018 10:08 PM (e7oj4)

434 The James Madison: "Genre" is a word used to dismiss the work of "inferior" creators as compared to the true sophisticates and artists. I ran into that all the time in my bookselling days. I specialized in mysteries, and the stories I heard from various authors were both horrifying and hysterically funny in an obscene way.

I knew one mystery writer who taught at some university or another, and didn't dare tell any of her colleagues that she was a published author. The then head of the communications department at a local college was involved in bringing a very interesting mystery writer to her college, and she couldn't get any of her colleagues to even post a flyer because Mardy was a "genre"author, not a real author.

If I hear someone sneering about "genre" anything, I know I'm dealing with a totally ignorant pseudo-intellectual.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 08, 2018 10:11 PM (ZtE5B)

435 You could have knocked me over with a feather when I realized Shia Laboef played that one tank soldier in "Fury". I honestly had no idea the little dweeb could actually act.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 08, 2018 10:26 PM (ZtE5B)

436 @434 -- Oh boy, do I sympathize with that!

Long before the MCU got established, many comics fans would go on about how this or that tale would make a great movie. I could agree, but what bugged me was the underlying attitude that the comic itself was not good enough to be treated with respect on its own.

Fandom was permeated with unspoken shame. I wondered, did fans of cozy mysteries or bodice-rippers have that same attitude toward what they ostensibly enjoyed? For that matter, why should we care about what some snot opined on our hobby?

My response is to buy what sounds interesting to me, and if it's good, hang on to it, even if I may not read it again for years. Sadly, this means that I have bought several comics that met quick cancellation.

When you think about it, making a good comic is damned difficult. In a just world, the good ones would have the respect due to them.

OK, this is getting away from me, and maybe I should have waited for the book thread. I'll wrap up with this:

I would rather read stories than literature.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 08, 2018 10:28 PM (PAtUJ)

437
434 The James Madison: "Genre" is a word used to dismiss the work of "inferior" creators as compared to the true sophisticates and artists. I ran into that all the time in my bookselling days. I specialized in mysteries, and the stories I heard from various authors were both horrifying and hysterically funny in an obscene way.

I knew one mystery writer who taught at some university or another, and didn't dare tell any of her colleagues that she was a published author. The then head of the communications department at a local college was involved in bringing a very interesting mystery writer to her college, and she couldn't get any of her colleagues to even post a flyer because Mardy was a "genre"author, not a real author.

If I hear someone sneering about "genre" anything, I know I'm dealing with a totally ignorant pseudo-intellectual.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 08, 2018 10:11 PM (ZtE5B)






On the flip side is an academic like Rod Whittaker, who wrote books on the side as Trevanian. Most famous for his genre books such as The Eiger Sanction and Shibumi, but he HATED genre. Most of them were actually written as spoofs of the genres he hated.

Fantastically talented writer, but a miserable pretentious prick. Which broke my heart because I really enjoyed his first five books.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2018 10:38 PM (eXA4G)

438 Love Watership Down. My friends and I could hardly talk without crying when we thought of Fiver.

Posted by: Patricia at September 08, 2018 11:03 PM (qlTN9)

439 I know this is late but...

This was a man whose opinions on film I respected. He's one of the first people to encourage me formally to look beyond the movies of my youth and discover films and stories of a wider breadth and depth, and he was dismissing anything that dealt with genre off hand. It was as I considered what he said that I realized something: Everything is a genre.

This is a discussion I've had several times with authors and the like. People who sniff and claim that they do not respect "genre" books are simply disliking certain other genres than the ones they prefer.

Literary misery pieces about man's inhumanity to man and so on ... that's just as much genre as a western or a noir detective novel. Its depressive and pretentious but genre. "Literary fiction" is not some unique category of fiction which transcends genre, that is its genre.

And people who sneer at books because they have an easily identifiable category in the book store are insufferable and pretentious themselves.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2018 12:52 AM (39g3+)

440 Great post and the Twitter rocks too

Posted by: Summer of Love at September 09, 2018 12:54 AM (FJrl0)

441 Oh, and I thought Training Day was hugely overrated.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2018 01:14 AM (39g3+)

442 (I recommend getting DVDs from your local library, rather than paying for rental or streaming.)

Forget about all the negative criticisms of The Shape of Water for a minute. Yes, it's got heavy-handed slams on Christianity, American military, and (human) males generally. Yes it's made by people that hate Normals like us.

But it's also got the beautiful naked Sally Hawkins, who really does give a stupendous performance. It's got great lighting and color palette. It does have touching moments, surprising because they are birthed in grotesquery. It has the very subtle, nuanced actor Michael Shannon ...

... OK I'm kidding, Shannon plays the scene-chewing damaged angry a-hole that he almost always plays, about the same character he played in that unwatchable Herzog eco-movie 2 years ago. I still like him, and maybe someday he'll try to stretch his range a bit. I liked his small part in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. He was good in that housing-collapse movie, 99 Homes?

There is a great small speech by the General Hoyt character at around 1:36:05 in TSoW:

"36 hours from now this entire episode will be over. And so will you. Our universe will have a hole in it with your outline. And you will have moved on, to an alternate universe: The Universe of Sh!t. You will be lost to civilization, and you will be unborn. Unmade, and undone."

That's Full Metal Jacket quality dialogue right there.

Posted by: gp at September 09, 2018 01:32 AM (mk9aG)

443 I was reading along wondering why the hell you cared about the opinion of Tom Cruise's character in Mission: Impossible. I had to look him up to even realize he was a movie guy. I kept waiting for a punch line.

Posted by: GWB at September 09, 2018 06:55 AM (U+O1a)

444 "Logan" was a great movie, genre or otherwise. I haven't wanted to watch another super hero film since watching it, since there didn't seem anything new for that form of storytelling to convey.

Posted by: Dr. Tar at September 09, 2018 08:26 AM (Fl92O)

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