Antifa Beats the Shit Out of Bernie Sanders Supporter, Thinking He's "Alt-Right" Because He... Was Carrying an American Flag

So that's the real definition of "alt-right" employed by the left now?

When they're justifying their terroristic attacks, they claim they're "fighting Nazis."

But the definition of "Nazi" turns out to be: "someone holding the flag of the nation that defeated the actual Nazis."

John Sexton has the story and video.

Now I'm going to say something, and I don't want it to be read as criticism of Sexton, or anyone else pushing this story.

I understand why the story is being framed the way it is. I do.

I want to talk about why the story can only be framed the way it is.

Without finding fault for anyone on the right for framing it this way.

But the way people on the right are framing this -- and I completely understand the reasons why -- is, "Look, Antifa says they beat up Nazis but they beat up nice liberal Bernie Sanders supporters."

Now, that's the way I framed it too.

The reason the story is framed this way is to dispute the media's argument that antifa only beats up Nazis -- as if that were legal or acceptable.

But it's an argument that CNN clown Chris Cuomo, son of one American governor and brother of another, has made on TV, justifying Antifa's terroristic violence.

You can read Nolte's excellent article on that, or John Sexton's very good piece.

Cuomo -- and I'm sure he did this in coordination ("collusion") with CNN editorial -- implicitly, deliberately endorses terroristic violence by CNN's ground troops in Antifa, while using Yasser-Arafat-like slippery language in doing so, so he can claim he was just saying "Nazis are bad."

That's a lie. I'm sure his script was vetted by CNN and he wrote it several times so that he could justify terroristic violence by the left while retaining some slight scraps of plausible deniability on the point.

But getting back to the why-is-the-story-framed-this-way problem:

Many normal conservatives have been beaten in the street, had eggs thrown at them, been maced in the face, etc.

The media provides air cover for its ground troops, Antifa.

So people frame the story in this way -- a Bernie Sanders supporter was viciously attacked by antifa! -- because the media and city police forces have already decided that conservatives are not human and are not owed civil rights and that it is now de facto legal to brutalize them in the street.

People resort to emphasizing this was a Bernie Sanders supporter because we all understand, and we have all internalized, that the media and Democrat-controlled police forces have deemed us subhuman noncitizens who are of a lesser caste and may be beaten by the higher castes as they choose.

So we all have to emphasize that this is a Bernie Sanders supporter. We could not, say, emphasize that the lesbian girl who was maced in the face by Antifa for the crime of wearing a red MAGA hat was a Trump supporter, because we know that that, in the left's mind, makes her a valid Target of Opportunity.

So we are forced to accept their definition of us as subhuman and beneath the protections of the law. We could not say "They did this to a Trump supporter!" of Charlie Kirk being assaulted (yes, dumping a drink on someone is assault and battery) because we have internalized it that, in the dominant, leftist-controlled rules of engagement, We deserve that.

But this Bernie Suppporter? He doesn't deserve it.

And that's what makes it bad. He, unlike us, does not deserve to be clubbed in the head on the street for carrying an American flag.

We deserve that. He doesn't.

Again, not criticism intended of John Sexton or the many other right-leaning writers writing the story in this way. As I also do not intended to criticize myself for framing it this way.

I point this out only to emphasize to you How bad the situation is.

We all have internalized we have no hope of having anyone in the media point out that beating conservative citizens in the streets is a social evil that borders on open civil war.

So we have stopped even trying.

We have simply moved on to complaining now that the left's fellow travelers are being beaten in the street, hoping against hope that maybe that will make them stop justifying beating conservatives in the street, as Chris Cuomo does on the Super-Patriotic American "news" outfit CNN.

But that is itself hopeless. All the left will do is chide antifa for having chosen the wrong target of the wrong caste to beat in the street for the Nazi-like crime of carrying the American flag.

But they will not criticize antifa for beating citizens in the street. Just for beating the First Class Citizens of the left in the street, mistaking them for the Second Class Citizens of the right, who you're allowed to beat.

Nay -- morally required to beat.

As Matt Yglesias does here.

Some Antifa geniuses beat up a Bernie Sanders voter counter-protesting the alt-right rally in Portland because he was holding an American flag. https://t.co/VcPvOzm3Hg
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) August 21, 2018

At some point the shooting will begin, and people will be killed by the violence they supported, justified, and promoted -- not just the "right" targets, but the "wrong" leftwing targets too -- and these monsters will ask: "How did this happen?"

Well: It was all you.

People respect the social compact of civil peace only so long as that compact protects them as well.

When they see that there is no longer a social compact of peace, they will begin violating it themselves.

And once that starts in earnest: there is little chance of stopping it. Civil wars start off slowly, then enter a period of dramatic escalation, then enter a period of slow, grinding murder for years, until finally, so many people are dead and so much misery has been suffered that people are finally willing to make peace with those who have been murdering them.

Ask the populations of any country who've gone through a civil war.

But I'm sure our very smart media class knows all this, right? They're The Experts in everything.

Just ask them! They'll tell you on twitter, after they liken domestic terrorists to those who liberated Europe from the actual Nazis:

FLASHBACK: CNN's @ChrisCuomo compared violent Antifa thugs to American soldiers who stormed the beaches of Normandy. #DDay pic.twitter.com/BKKYLLhJAf
— Wired Sources (@WiredSources) June 6, 2018

Do you geniuses honestly think you're the only people who've thought "Gee, maybe some political vigilantism/terrorism against my enemies would be fun and profitable"?

I know from the way you write you news reports, you don't think that. You think the right is eager to start murdering people.

So why, Experts and Geniuses, do you insist on starting a civil war with people who you are convinced are arming themselves in the teeth only to start killing progressives?

And then, of course, they whine: "We've been made to feel unsafe to express our First Amendment rights!"

Really?

Tell me -- What's that like?

Because the people actually, currently being victimized by real violence want to hear all about what it's like to merely have back-of-the-mind fears of some future, possible, hypothetical violence.

The idea of only facing hypothetical, possible, future sounds pretty sweet, at least to those of us actually, in reality, being targeted for violence.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:58 PM

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1 Oh, My

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (bUjCl)

2 st

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (iiixZ)

3 Oh fuck me....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (iiixZ)

4 Hey, I did the NOOD thingy.... WFT.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (iiixZ)

5 God help us. Pray for our country to return to it's founding principles. Tolerance is only a one-way street apparently.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (2sCft)

6 Won't be long before antifa is asking for veteran's benefits.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (Y274z)

7 Goonskwadz, then deffskwadz, then, let us never speak of this again.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (fA1SL)

8 Well, yeah!

American flags are flags of white man hate!

Posted by: Antifa azzholes and their CNN lovers at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (UsCnO)

9 All these marxists screaming and crying for blood, violence and death.

What to do, what to do.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (EoRCO)

10 Yeah, those antifa guys and gals are totally like the gallant men that stormed Omaha beach. Just faggier and more cowardly and vile.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (2sCft)

11 It's entirely possible that the next civil war will feature Democrats shooting each other, if this case is an omen.

Hopefully Americans will ensure that the Never Trumpers don't make it to Day 2.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (3Tn95)

12 Breaking News : The law offices of Perkins-Coie have been raided and their attorney's charged with trying to influence the election.

Just joshing, that shit will never happen.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (P1AAi)

13 Left on Left assaulting is as old as, well, Leftism

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (lxZ71)

14 6 > the battle of Berkeley Starbucks. 2018: Hell without a latte.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (iiixZ)

15 Won't be long before antifa is asking for veteran's benefits.
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Sure, heroes of the revolution become rich landowners when they are awarded the rural estates that were once held by enemies of the people.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (I9Sw7)

16 As veterans of the War Against the Deplorables Antifa will ask for free college tuition....oh wait....

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (Y274z)

17 Sooner or later it won't be accidental, it will be for supremacy

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (lxZ71)

18 ...at first slowly, then all at once.

Posted by: Zapp Branigan at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (UTKsr)

19 'Antifa' were commies. Who are no different than fascists.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (oVJmc)

20 Very well put.

Oh don't forget the whole if you ask someone to define what they mean by Nazi that means you are a Nazi because no one who isn't a Nazi would ever ask if you think they're a Nazi.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (dEQP3)

21 Red White and Black were Nazi flag colors.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (Y274z)

22 Sooo, Trump in W Virginia

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (bUjCl)

23

I'm glad I'll be dead sooner rather than later.

Tough on youngins though...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (qul7b)

24 Won't be long before antifa is asking for veteran's benefits.
Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (Y274z)

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I'd vote in favor of them exercising their funeral benefits. Cardboard box or cremation or lye pit - your choice.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (2sCft)

25 Ayn Rand got it wrong. The people in blue cities shouldn't be asking "Who is John Galt?". They should be asking "Do you know where food comes from?"

It's time for "us" to stop feeding "them".

Posted by: Neil deGrasse It's not rape if I'm wearing the dress Tyson at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (1L9V9)

26 22.
*ahem*
That's Best Virginia.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (fA1SL)

27 Antifa are a bunch of terrorists

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (bUjCl)

28 FL Senate poll

Scott (R) +6

Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (MAstk)

29 If you get near me wearing a mask, pray I don't see you first.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (w7KSn)

30 I know a 95 y.o. who came ashore on Omaha Beach who could easily beat the crap out of Chris Cuomo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (ptqGC)

31 *ahem*

That's Best Virginia.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine,
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so sorry, my apologies ! BEST VIRGINIA !

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (bUjCl)

32 Just so the left knows, after things go sideways I will take no prisoners. None.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (r9UYA)

33 It takes time for stuff like this to filter down to the "silent majority". And that's especially true when the Press deliberately lies and covers up stories. The Majority just want to be left to live their lives in peace. They want to have jobs, raise a family, and maybe take a vacation some time. We are at the stage where they are uneasy at the way things are going. That can change quickly. I just hope people are angry enough to turn out and vote for our side in the midterm elections.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (JKNZq)

34 11 It's entirely possible that the next civil war will feature Democrats shooting each other, if this case is an omen.

If that happens, I want in on some of that!

Posted by: abused Americans who still believe in Constitutional Law at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (UsCnO)

35 Antifa Beats the Shit Out of Bernie Sanders Supporter, Thinking He's "Alt-Right" Because He... Was Carrying an American Flag

So that's the real definition of "alt-right" employed by the left now?

Has been for a while. Right after Barky slimed into office Homeland Security came out with that ridiculous list of potential domestic terrorists that included anyone who like sthe 2nd amendment, likes the Constitution, ...

And California (among other places) had long established that wearing an American flag t-shirt was provocative in an American school. Too provocative to allow.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (63i9Y)

36 I would urge you all to wear MAGA hats. Also carry a concealed weapon.

AND FUCKING USE IT ON THESE SUBHUMAN TRASH.

Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (E8aRS)

37 I added this kicker:

And then, of course, they whine: "We've been made to feel unsafe to express our Free Speech rights!"

Really?

Tell me -- What's that like?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (PA9oZ)

38 The Cuomo brothers are trash.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (ptqGC)

39 Beat up.

I've seen pictures of the weapon that antifa fag hit the guy in the head with. It's not an umbrella. It's some sort of club that has a handle on one end and A heavily weighted and pointed hunk of metal at the other end connected by a long spring. A small windup makes that thing lethal.

He split that guys head open and if that video went longer you would see him lying in a pool of blood.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (/tuJf)

40 Im sure that Bernie supporter called us Nazis also so on a uncomplicated level, I don't care that he got the shit beat out of him. And in most Red states , it's not accepted that these procom thugs can be violent with no consequences.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (2DOZq)

41 West, By God, Virginia is a well known phrase around here.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (FTlwv)

42 The folks stirring this shit up will flee to other countries if/when it goes hot. It has never been about winning elections since Trump, it's been about scorched earth to punish Americans and America.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (sFofr)

43 39. That's a spring-cosh, aka 'SIPO' baton.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (fA1SL)

44 Antifa Beats the Shit Out of Bernie Sanders Supporter, Thinking He's "Alt-Right" Because He... Was Carrying an American Flag

Hey! You found the Nazis.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (ylXIx)

45 Antifa are anarchist-terrorists; they sow chaos and terrorize law abiding citizens

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:10 PM (bUjCl)

46 Just so the left knows, after things go sideways I will take no prisoners. None.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (r9UYA)
............

They're not going to get any of my Beanie Weenie, either.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (HgMAr)

47 41.
* shoves coupons for Tudor's through usb *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (fA1SL)

48 Bernie bros hate America, anyway, so the American flag was just a prop.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (63i9Y)

49 >>45
Antifa are anarchist-terrorists; they sow chaos and terrorize law abiding citizens

Posted by: runner

zzzzZZZZzzzz

Posted by: J. Sessions at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (r9UYA)

50 They beat him up because they hate the United States and want it destroyed. Anyone carrying the symbols of the United States, like a U.S. flag is their enemy.

It is not just confined to Antifa, but much of the hard left believes this. What do people think all the kneeling during the National Anthem is about? Or when leftist tear down statues? Or when they burn the flag?

They have been telling us they are our enemies, not political opponents, but straight our enemies. No different then if a enemy army was marching across the country. The desired goals are the same: Overthrow of the United States and the establishment of a government more of their liking.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (MuTTO)

51 Come to my town antifa.
I dare ya.
Bring friends. You'll need them.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (0tfLf)

52 Who in their right minds think we can have an amicable national divorce?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (+dsLj)

53 >>That's a spring-cosh, aka 'SIPO' baton.

I was reasonably certain you would know what it was.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (/tuJf)

54 I would postulate blood keeps news exciting and paychecks coming in.

I would also postulate they/media, occupy, blm, Antiflaw are all a part of the Dem chaos that works to intimidate who they want intimidated at whatever moment.

I would hope we don't end up like yemen, Syria, Libya, Egypt, where they move in and take over.
It's not Their hands that will get dirty.
They'll just suggest who should win from the sidelines.

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (dPd5y)

55 Here comes Trump.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (sdi6R)

56

*puts hands in pockets*
*nonchalantly and calmly walks away humming the Imperial March*

dumb dumb dumb, dumbdie dumb dumbdie dumb

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (I9Sw7)

57 The next civil war will be elites and their circle in Urban Areas versus the rest. It won't be pretty.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (sFofr)

58 Oh yeah, and the Bernie supporter said that he was there to protest the people that came into Portland for their march. He's talking about Patriot Prayer, which is from my side of the river. Yes, technically they came in from a different state. Since the people from Portland keep moving into this area and turning it bluer, I think we should be able to drive across the river and protest.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (JKNZq)

59 We don't need to feed people red pills; I swear the left is force feeding it to them all on their own. Self inflicted wound. Keep it up!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (hvf9s)

60 What's with the drums, Antifa?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (ptqGC)

61 So the flag is now a fascist symbol but black masks are symbols of freedom?

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (KN1xl)

62 I believe Antifa had shown flags espousing communism, was I wrong?

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (dPd5y)

63 52 not amicable but starting to fear inevitable

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (lxZ71)

64 18% of Americans have a favorable opinion of Antifa, down from 24% last year, and 54% have an unfavorable opinion.

https://bit.ly/2MudsNR

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (+y/Ru)

65 Trump on stage in WV....just started.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (Enq6K)

66 48 Bernie bros hate America, anyway, so the American flag was just a prop.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (63i9Y)

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They are the useful idiots, now that the real left controls that particular street he is getting the "boot up his ass" as that former KGB defector told us would be their fate.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (MuTTO)

67 So why, Experts and Geniuses, do you insist on starting a civil war with people who you are convinced are arming themselves in the teeth only to start killing progressives?
+++++++++
Nice post, Ace.
Although the question is rhetorical, here's my take: They encourage outright violence because they believe at least one of two things are true:
1) The police at all levels are on their side, and able to suppress what they're trying to trigger, thus handing them a bloodless-for-them victory.
2) The military is on their side, and able to suppress what they're trying to trigger, thus handing them a bloodless-for-them victory.

The way I see it:
- The first part of #1 is true, the second part is not true.
- The first part of #2 might not be true, the second part might be true.

They're making one hell of a gamble either way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (I2dne)

68 Trump should be on fire tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (ptqGC)

69 Have live feed of the WV rally going in the background and they are playing John Denver's Country Roads, of course. Love it!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (hvf9s)

70 I dunno, I kind of like it when the Left accidentally beats the shit out of its own.

It's like a revolution eating its own, only less cannibalistic or whatever.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (JSIDz)

71 When will people with public platforms start calling out the bullshit claim that Antifa is anti-racist and anti-fascist?
I'd like Antifa to identify five things they don't like about actual, historical Naziism.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (eAMlh)

72 20 Oh don't forget the whole if you ask someone to define what they mean by Nazi that means you are a Nazi because no one who isn't a Nazi would ever ask if you think they're a Nazi.

"it depends on what the definition of 'is' is": clever and witty.

"it depends on what the definitin of 'nazi' is": evil and racist

Posted by: Anachronda at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (NmR1a)

73 He's bashing ESPN....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (Enq6K)

74 AntiFa have been International Communists for 90 years. They aren't new. They are well funded and supported now in America though.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (sFofr)

75 Unlike American soldiers, antifa only attacks people who won't fight back. In that respect they're more like the brave SS soldiers who shot defenseless old ladies and little kids. Pure valor, there.

They've been pretty lucky so far.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (Mouru)

76 Take a look at that rally. Now, picture a gang of Antifa thugs outside, waiting to bash a few heads.

It would not end well.....for Antifa.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (ptqGC)

77

Great post, Ace.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (uPlWr)

78 I'm not going to hang out, but some of you might want to know that I threw some Markie Post boobage in at the end of the last thread.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (fuK7c)

79 53. Heh. I do like instruments of mayhem. And that's a good 'un.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (fA1SL)

80 Ironically, this poor victim probably had more in common with the Nazis than most of the people that Antifa goes after. Doesn't justify it to any degree, mind you.

Posted by: junior at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (umy56)

81 So it must now be the the Antifa (anti First Amendment) flag or no flag. When did they declare victory over the US?

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (KN1xl)

82 We're one Presidential election away from civil war. Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: Guzalot at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (schB/)

83 Mueller - Doing the work that the IRS won't do

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (lxZ71)

84 Trump speaking now live at the rally!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XY_isOiTaw

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (hvf9s)

85 "So we have stopped even trying."

I don't have a forum, but I haven't stopped trying. If ever I mention Antifa, I never say, "Antifa". I say, "The Fascists, Antifa." Because it is right and proper. Factually, it is right and proper.

We are witnessing bona fide Brownshirts who wear black and who lack a specific leader but are actively Brownshirts in ideology. They're Statist thugs on payroll of Capitalists pushing Socialism on the masses but not upon themselves. Tools of oligarchs synchronized with State power.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (6eEQ+)

86 Isn't all campaign money spent with the intent of influencing the election?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2018 07:16 PM (xIfFB)

87 That will teach the Bernie Bros to think they are still in America.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:16 PM (KN1xl)

88 He's speaking now.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (ylXIx)

89 unfortunately that One Bernie supporter wore regular clothes, so not recognised as one of them.

I wonder if Bernie endorses this conduct?

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (dPd5y)

90 Andrew and Chris Cuomo should star in "Dumb and Dumber III".

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (jDF8P)

91 I'll wager NeverTrumpers are avoiding watching this rally like vampires avoid sunlight and garlic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (ptqGC)

92 Antifa pussies have to pick on weanie Bernie bots because actual conservatives would kick their asses. Including me.

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (Z48ZB)

93 These thugs will be just like the Nazis getting rid of the Brownshirt leaders.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (2DOZq)

94 RICO Antifa now while there's still time.

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (FhXTo)

95 I wonder if this is what the Jews felt like as the Nazis took over?

Posted by: BomberCommand at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (5T/WH)

96 84
Trump speaking now live at the rally!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XY_isOiTaw

Thank you for that. The Fox stream audio is shit.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (r9UYA)

97 Coulter was on with Howie Carr, mentioned some guy was tired of some band head guitar jerk mouthing off about politics (hating Trump I guess). So the guy yells something, and (quietly) gives the finger during the next song ... band guy asks him up toward the stage, guy figures it will be a debate, crowd holds him, band leader starts punching him, crowd cheers ...

must be video of that somewhere ... or did I dream it? ha, no sure she said that. but so much crazy shit going on like that, it all kinda flows together in a "purple haze" or something ... purple rage of the left.

Mosh pit, but now sacrificing Trump patriots.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (bT8Z4)

98 Anarchists and Communists have been very active in the US for a very long time. Turn of last century they did assassinations and bombings. Haymarket, etc.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (MIKMs)

99 Antifa pussies have to pick on weanie Bernie bots because actual conservatives would kick their asses. Including me.
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (Z48ZB)

Shouldn't that be Antifa front holders?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (eAMlh)

100 I am convinced that Strozk's "insurance policy" was Jeff Sessions. That got to him early on. He is a plant

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (7rpiB)

101 There must be a reason antifa stay in blue areas. If they hate Trump supporters so much, why aren't they going into the red states and attacking there? Is it because they know they would probably get the shit beat out of them and maybe shot? It just shows what cowards they are.

Posted by: Abby at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (ze06e)

102 "And I know this doesn't matter to you, but we're putting our coal miners back to work."

Donald Trump, professional balla.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (3Tn95)

103 I watched The Way We Were for the first time ever last week. Was on a classic film channel.

Man, they sure had a rosy, romantic picture of what communists were really like back then! If they were all like Babs' depiction, just wanted peace and love, libs might have a case. But the mask is off now; today they are all secret brownshirts with colored hair.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (hvf9s)

104 This guy is like an ambulatory mountain.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (/tuJf)

105 You can blow up windmills easy
Pipelines can go like that
But coal is indestructable

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (ylXIx)

106 How tall is the WV governor, dear heavens.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (dEQP3)

107 RICO Antifa now while there's still time.
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (FhXTo)
++++++++
Wrong approach. They're an international terror group. Send the National Guard next time the act up, bust them down and lock them up. RICO isn't really needed here. It would be nice to get the money men behind the curtain, but the problem goes away if they get their heads cracked by riot police and then thrown in prison. They'll have a serious recruitment problem if we just enforce the damn riot laws as they are on the books right now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:20 PM (I2dne)

108 "I'm gonna bring up your governor....he's the largest most beautiful man."

LOL!

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:20 PM (Enq6K)

109 When the burning times come, all our violence will be protected speech and all your speech will be violence!

Posted by: The Left at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (DzFIB)

110 The WV guv is a freakin' giant.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (r9UYA)

111 85
We are witnessing bona fide Brownshirts who wear black and who lack a specific leader but are actively Brownshirts in ideology. They're Statist thugs on payroll of Capitalists pushing Socialism on the masses but not upon themselves. Tools of oligarchs synchronized with State power.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (6eEQ+)

And as I keep saying, Antifa is *international* in scope. They have been active in Europe for years, usually beating up people who protest open borders immigration policies. So, far from being anarchists, they are actually off-the-books muscle for the State.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

112 The WV guv is a freakin' giant.

Yikes... Glad he's on our side

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (O2RFr)

113 49 >>45
Antifa are anarchist-terrorists; they sow chaos and terrorize law abiding citizens

Posted by: runner

zzzzZZZZzzzz
Posted by: J. Sessions at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (r9UYA)

Related to RUSSIA and the election - antifa were Uncle Joe's foot soldiers so sleepy sessions had already recused himself.

Otherwise antifa clearly meets the definition of a terrorist organization. But, RUSSIA.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (1g7ch)

114 "He's a big man...he's all man. 6'11"....I won't talk about the weight. I won't go there!"

OMG!

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (Enq6K)

115 At some point the shooting will begin, and people will be killed by the violence they supported, justified, and promoted -- not just the "right" targets, but the "wrong" leftwing targets too -- and these monsters will ask: "How did this happen?"

Too bad Maet ain't still around ... he'd ban Ace in a heart-beat for posting some shit like that.

Folks - I can think of a handful of peeps here that have been saying this is exactly how this shit is going to go down for years. Sure - I like to think I was one of the first - but I wasn't the only.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (fiGNd)

116 That live feed is great!!! I love the comments. God Bless Trump!

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (Z48ZB)

117 Six foot eleven?

That's nearly two feet taller than me.

And once again, Trump doing the good boss thing of making sure that everyone gets named and credit given. People remember this.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (dEQP3)

118 Maybe somebody should tell Mueller has Trump and Russia connection. He'd start investigating the shit out of them.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (eAMlh)

119 74 AntiFa have been International Communists for 90 years. They aren't new. They are well funded and supported now in America though.
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (sFofr)

----------------

They were the morons who convinced the average German to vote, or at least not oppose, Hitler and the National Socialists. So even when they don't take over the country, they find other ways to wreck countries.

Thankfully American conservatives are of a different breed - they love constitutional republics. That will be our saving grace.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (MuTTO)

120 "He's a big man...he's all man. 6'11"....I won't talk about the weight. I won't go there!"

OMG!

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (Enq6K)

I know! lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (ptqGC)

121 Otherwise antifa clearly meets the definition of a terrorist organization.
=
exactly

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (bUjCl)

122 If Trump wants to win reelection, he needs to take action against the extreme left. He needs to send troops to guard the First Amendment rights of college speakers. I would expect and hope that Antifa would resist, and be slaughtered by the military.

Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:23 PM (E8aRS)

123 so how does the joke go, we ain't played cowboys and antifa yet?

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (MTjB1)

124 115 At some point the shooting will begin, and people will be killed by the violence they supported, justified, and promoted -- not just the "right" targets, but the "wrong" leftwing targets too -- and these monsters will ask: "How did this happen?"

Too bad Maet ain't still around ... he'd ban Ace in a heart-beat for posting some shit like that.

Folks - I can think of a handful of peeps here that have been saying this is exactly how this shit is going to go down for years. Sure - I like to think I was one of the first - but I wasn't the only.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (fiGNd)

You do know time and facts on the ground change right? What was not appropriate a couple of years ago may be appropriate now and vice versa.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (2DOZq)

125 It's not so bad as all that. "Internalizing" the idea that the media see us as subhuman is simply accepting what has been true since - in my personal memory - 1964. The framing of THIS story is simply a way of forcing them to back off their support of antifa, or to come out of the closet as full-on anti-American. Which anyone who has been listening knows already.

But it will at least either embarrass them or, more likely, open a few more eyes.

Posted by: George LeS at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (59GGI)

126 This is the rally where Trump gives up and resigns 'cause they got him dead to rights this time.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (2NqXo)

127 "I am convinced that Strozk's "insurance policy" was Jeff Sessions."

Plausible.

Also plausible: That Brennan knew that Obama was unqualified for office and was holding that information over his head.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (w7KSn)

128 The enemy of the people are the MSM/Dems. It should be obvious that they are the ones responsible for inciting violence.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (hECVl)

129 If you're watching the Youtube broadcast (I am drifting here and there and back to work while data management is chugging along), the comments section moves too fast to read. People do look engaged, at least in this narrow context.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:25 PM (I2dne)

130 If Trump wants to win reelection, he needs to take action against the
extreme left. He needs to send troops to guard the First Amendment
rights of college speakers. I would expect and hope that Antifa would
resist, and be slaughtered by the military.
Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:23 PM (E8aRS)

Thanks, Moby.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 07:25 PM (jDF8P)

131 I have never forgiven Maet for letting that autistic fucker ChemHeff post a hundred times a day. I thought about quiting AoS.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (rnAwa)

132 Let me get this straight.

Some Commies beat up a guy carrying a U.S. flag.

What's so hard to understand?

Posted by: JAS at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (3HNOQ)

133 Actually I think Cuomo was right. The guys storming the beach at Normandy were anti-fascists.

You got to credit someone when they get something right. Our guys were fighting *fascists* to take a *fascist* regime down.

Hitler would never dispute that his regime was *fascist*. So the people fighting them were anti-fascist.

This is all true.

It's has fuck all to do with a group waylaying anybody *they* call a fascist in a mob.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (vDqXW)

134 >>>127 "I am convinced that Strozk's "insurance policy" was Jeff Sessions."

Plausible.

...

It wouldn't be Sessions per se. It could be that they had the plan to claim he, too, was a RUSSIAN AGENT and take him out of the loop.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (PA9oZ)

135

File this post away under: I Told You So

Because you'll be posting it again.

This really is sad. More and more people are talking about a civil war coming, and these are people you would never had expected it coming from their mouths.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (uPlWr)

136 "He's a big man...he's all man. 6'11"....I won't talk about the weight. I won't go there!"

OMG!
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM

Trump could've added, "I need to lose a few, too," in solidarity. That's okay. The media would be all over him if he made a joke. TRUMP ADMITS OBESITY MAKES HIM UNFIT FOR OFFICE.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (2NqXo)

137 The phoney-umbrella club from Thomas Wictor even if he thinks HQ commenters are a bunch of masturbators...
https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/
1026266313788813312

Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (Evws/)

138 They were the morons who convinced the average German to vote, or at least not oppose, Hitler and the National Socialists.

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It's a horrible question to ask, but: Were those 'ordinary Germans' wrong?

They were faced with a choice. It was gonna be the Nazis or the Commies.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (UiRxW)

139 DRAIN THAT SWAMP!
DRAIN THAT SWAMP!

- love the energy at this rally.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (fA1SL)

140 Those West Virginians don't seem too demoralized by Manafort and Cohen.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (+y/Ru)

141 >>>This really is sad. More and more people are talking about a civil war coming, and these are people you would never had expected it coming from their mouths.

I am well aware. A friend told me that this topic comes up with some alarming frequency among her middle-of-the-road, middle-class, mortgage-holding church members.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (PA9oZ)

142 I point this out only to emphasize to you How bad the situation is.

Yes, it is. Not to add that carrying an American Flag is a sign of being a Nazi. What does that say.

Which just leads to my point about not going to these demonstrations bcz they are no-win. Becz they are what the Media and Left wants. Let them beat up on each other bcz there are no targets from the Right. That's a nice little wake up call for the Left who thinks they are safe from Anti-fa. We need them to wake up and have more Walkaway people.

Look at the disappointment from the Unite the Right Rally when no one showed up. We win with those outcomes. That's when people begin to doubt the narratives.

When my enemy is trying to get me to do something, I'm smart enough not to do it. Let the Left turn on itself. Maybe that poor kid that got beat up will have second thoughts about what he believes. Maybe he'll join the walkaway movement.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (Nt/TS)

143 Omg going after Manchin for being nice to Hillary is great. Some people are learning from Trump how to take it to their opponents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (dEQP3)

144 I'm thinking at future antifa rallies, right before the rally/riot starts, I'm going to go around the immediate vicinity in Portland and put Trump and American flag bumper stickers on the stupid left wing Prius's right over the Coexist and Bernie Bro stickers. Then antifa will trash and burn all the Bernie lovers cars. Good plan, eh?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)

145 You do know time and facts on the ground change right? What was not appropriate a couple of years ago may be appropriate now and vice versa.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (2DOZq)

Bullshit. I was just willing to make obvious conclusions.

Conclusions ANYONE could have made - because I made 'em. I'm smart - but not the smartest one here by no means.

If I could see - it was there for all to see. I was just willing to look.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:29 PM (fiGNd)

146 I love this guy on the stage asked the coal miners to stand up, but pretty much everyone is standing already, lol.

"Dishonest Joe Manchin." Doesn't sound as catchy and biting coming out of anyone's mouth besides Trumo, but it'll do.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:29 PM (hvf9s)

147 tu3031 @ 130: so I must be a Moby because I want Trump to do for pro-American speakers what Eisenhower did for blacks?

Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (E8aRS)

148 The train has left the station.

Hope y'all stocked up on sandwiches.

Might not stop again for a while.

Posted by: Simplemind at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (ZuGkg)

149 I knew we were on the road to civil war when Obama was elected in 2008, for the simple reason that you can't have half of the population trying to ram Communism down the other half's throats without bloodshed.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

150 144 I'm thinking at future antifa rallies, right before the rally/riot starts, I'm going to go around the immediate vicinity in Portland and put Trump and American flag bumper stickers on the stupid left wing Prius's right over the Coexist and Bernie Bro stickers. Then antifa will trash and burn all the Bernie lovers cars. Good plan, eh?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)

I immediately thought the same but I don't live in the Blue Hunting Grounds of Antifa. They wouldn't pull this stuff where I'm located.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (4ErVI)

151 Omg going after Manchin for being nice to Hillary is
great. Some people are learning from Trump how to take it to their
opponents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (dEQP3)

Ya this guy seems pretty good

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (lwiT4)

152 >>Six foot eleven?

>>That's nearly two feet taller than me.

Do you have a broom? I just had a great campaign idea.

Don't kill me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (/tuJf)

153 Six foot eleven?

-
Let's forget about the six feet and talk about the eleven inches.

Posted by: Mae West at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (+y/Ru)

154
Yikes!

Posted by: aaefAd at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (4DCSq)

155 I would guess Antifa claims to be promoting worker but hate actual workers.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (eAMlh)

156 I am well aware. A friend told me that this topic comes up with some alarming frequency among her middle-of-the-road, middle-class, mortgage-holding church members.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (PA9oZ)

What does Insty call it the rebellion of the middle class?

It's been a long, long, long time coming. That's what makes me furious at the Never Trumpers and their idiotic Year Zero nonsense that this is all Trump's doing.

No, you mouth breathers, Trump is the symptom, not the disease. And you better pray that he's the cure.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (dEQP3)

157 the antifa brownshirts do not matter as much as it is the leftist/globalist alliance that they front for
THAT is the enemy that must be annihilated at the base of the problem

Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (swEzU)

158 But coal is indestructable
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM

I'm guessing you have never been to Centralia Pa.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (lxZ71)

159 Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (PA9oZ)

-------

My family and others like those you describe have been preparing for it for some years now. Always saw it as a possibility since Obama was elected. My ex-FiL, too.

Since Trump was elected it's shifted out of the "possible" column into the "probable" column.

And it's nudging right up against the "certainty" end of the spreadsheet.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (UiRxW)

160 i've started actually praying for the country the last few mths and a peaceful resolution of some kind.

ive never felt the need to do that before.

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (dPd5y)

161 No words

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (CE6iV)

162 It's easier to establish that you are actually fighting fascists when the people on the other side *own* the fascist label.

You know what--it anybody goes to prison for this bullshit about "misgendering" that is disagreeing with the self-identified gender--I'm going to see progs get my political identity RIGHT or go to fucking prison!!

That's going to be some massive bullshit to say I can't call you "he" but you can call me a Nazi or a White Supremacist (i.e. Bad Guy of the World) whether or not I find that even remotely descriptive of my politics.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (vDqXW)

163

Getting rid of ICE is one way to take out a counter to groups like antifa.

Antifa should be declared a terrorist group and ICE should take them off the streets.

If blm ramps up again. Same for them. We need to shut these growing groups of violent people down. They have become feral and easily persuaded to violence.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (uPlWr)

164 And you better pray that he's the cure.

I do.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (lwiT4)

165 I knew CW2 was coming after 2010 and the GOPe did Jack shit in Congress.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (89T5c)

166 >>>What does Insty call it the rebellion of the middle class?

he says, quoting someone I believe: "When the lower class rebels, you get riots. When the middle class rebels, you get revolutions."

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (PA9oZ)

167 Smart guy, says some good things, has a folksy polished charm, but doesn't wear out his welcome, when the people are really there to see Trump. Hopefully they vote him in and Manchin out!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (hvf9s)

168 "I wonder if this is what the Jews felt like as the Nazis took over?
Posted by: BomberCommand at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (5T/WH)"

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It is unnerving and police better do something about restraining the Antifa rabble if they want to be accepting by the people as "us" rather than "them".

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (KN1xl)

169 I suppose you could say deranged violent leftists are so out of control they attack their own.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (p0nVR)

170 I am well aware. A friend told me that this topic comes up with some alarming frequency among her middle-of-the-road, middle-class, mortgage-holding church members.

Are they making fucking phone calls? Are they writing letters? Are they doing any of the hard work that a democratic Republic demands? Cz if they are not, then stop with the circle jerk talk about a civil war. If you have time to talk about it, you have time to prevent it. If we get there, if we become the fvcking ME, I will hold responsible all the people who bitched but did nothing to prevent it. This topic makes me so angry every time it comes up. Because people are lazy pieces of shit who would rather talk civil war than make any calls.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (Nt/TS)

171 Do you have a broom? I just had a great campaign idea.

Don't kill me.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (/tuJf)

Oh like I'll give you the sweet mercy of death.

Hahaha Trump maybe I'll sneak out without the Secret Service. Sure, that'll go well.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (dEQP3)

172 ive never felt the need to do that before.
Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (dPd5y)

Very scary times willow. I know I lay in bed many a night when Obama was in office worried to death about our future. I seriously never dreamed people would become THIS unhinged.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)

173 No, you mouth breathers, Trump is the symptom, not the disease. And you better pray that he's the cure.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (dEQP3)

Antifa progs taking away the soap box and they won't recognize the ballot box... there was another box too.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (1g7ch)

174 @100

I've been saying that for months.

Nothing else makes sense.

All of this is happening because of his idiotic and nonsensical recusal.

Jeff Sessions is a disgraceful piece of shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (kT3/m)

175 anyway I don't know wy we are upset at the Bernie supporter are Bernie supporters also Antifa?

I had thought they were more fluffy idealists. peace and love types.

the flag he brought? was that to burn?

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dPd5y)

176 144 I'm thinking at future antifa rallies, right before the rally/riot starts, I'm going to go around the immediate vicinity in Portland and put Trump and American flag bumper stickers on the stupid left wing Prius's right over the Coexist and Bernie Bro stickers. Then antifa will trash and burn all the Bernie lovers cars. Good plan, eh?
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)

I like that. "Monkeywrenching", I believe it's called.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (sdi6R)

177 But coal is indestructable Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM

Fire can't melt coal!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnel at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (hvf9s)

178 In 3 days time there won't be a pit bull that hasn't been put on a spit if this goes hot.

Texans can close off all N/S E/W traffic

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (Xpw10)

179 Silent Sam came down Monday night in Chapel Hill, long after he should have and no thanks to the people who should have done it. And when it finally happened, when the statue was toppled and students sang and social media celebrated, the adults in the room stepped forward to remind us why this had taken so long. University of North Carolina officials were first, hiding behind a nameless statement sent out late Monday. Did that statement acknowledge how the 1913 statue had long been a source of pain on campus,...

Charlotte Observer editorial

In other words, it's okay to break the law as long as it is for a 'good' cause. Like when that black vendor in St. Louis got whomped by SEIU thugs for selling American flags outside a town hall event (they got off too), or like Bike Lock Prof who literally split open a Trumpian scalp and got no jail time, good causes abound these days.

Maybe Bill Ayers is right, and killing off 25 million ungood Americans will bring about the long awaited Utopia.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (0ogQG)

180 Too lazy to scroll thru comments...

Manafort found guilty on eight counts, jury hung om ten.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (Zogyx)

181 Jewells yeah, I thought even if we'd be pissed at eachother at times we would hold together much like 9-11

im not conivniced anymore

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (dPd5y)

182

Also, I've said it before, but it bears repetition: People shouldn't talk about "CW2."

"Civil War" = Failed rebellion

"Revolution" = Successful rebellion

Try "AR2." It's small nit to pick, but mindset matters in these things.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (UiRxW)

183 I seriously never dreamed people would become THIS unhinged.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)

Really ?

I like you Jewells. Let me start with that. I'm not pickin' on you ... I'm just asking.

Why ? With shit in the History Books about the French Revolution, NAZI Germany, Reconstruction in the South ...

... why would you think people in Western Civ wouldn't go unhinged again ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)

184 tu3031 @ 130: so I must be a Moby because I want Trump to do for pro-American speakers what Eisenhower did for blacks?

So how many did Eisenhower have slaughtered by the military, genius? I'll wait...

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (jDF8P)

185 In other words, it's okay to break the law as long as it is for a 'good' cause. Like when that black vendor in St. Louis got whomped by SEIU thugs for selling American flags outside a town hall event (they got off too), or like Bike Lock Prof who literally split open a Trumpian scalp and got no jail time, good causes abound these days.

Maybe Bill Ayers is right, and killing off 25 million ungood Americans will bring about the long awaited Utopia.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (0ogQG)

Social Justice.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (sFofr)

186 Who doesn't remember American soldiers charging the beach, hitting Germans in the head with bike locks?!

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (vDqXW)

187
The train has left the station.

Hope y'all stocked up on sandwiches.

Might not stop again for a while.
Posted by: Simplemind

Are we there yet?

Posted by: Little Billy at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (IqV8l)

188 >>.No, you mouth breathers, Trump is the symptom, not the disease. And you better pray that he's the cure.

right. They don't get that people voted for Trump because people were sick of the Republican Establishment lying to them, selling them out, prioritizing the small number of high-dollar donors' interests over the great number of middle class voters' interests, ignoring them, and even actually just flat-out insulting them as peons and untermenschen at an increasingly speedy clip.

I keep asking: If you're so Elite, how did you not see this coming?

Elites who are actually elite see political trends rising and make adjustments. They co-opt the necessary parts of the coalition of the dissatisfied in order to keep a majority coalition together.

This "Elite" class did not see anything coming and made no adjustments at all. They just started insulting those who questioned their rule as "hobbits" and "wack-a-doos."

But they're Elite. They caused the very uprising that resulted in their exile, and did not see it coming, and took no action to co-opt the coalition aligning against them.

But they're elite.

Just ask them!

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (PA9oZ)

189 Six foot eleven?

That's nearly two feet taller than me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (dEQP3)

Ahem.

*coughs*

*kicks dirt*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (fuK7c)

190 there was another box too.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (1g7ch)

The one with the trap door?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (ylXIx)

191 why would you think people in Western Civ wouldn't go unhinged again ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)

Because we are Americans. We are exceptional. No sarcasm.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (lwiT4)

192 While I agree with everything Ace said, I actually read this story in a way different than either he proposes.

One way is: AntiFa attacks innocent Bernie Bro.

Another is: AntiFa attacks American flag holder.

I read it as: Feel Good Story of the Week: Liberal Protester Hospitalized, No Conservatives Arrested or Hurt.

Posted by: Confuscious at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (JJ9bx)

193 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/ 1031628271153106944.html

Strategic Deception

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (FhXTo)

194 Very scary times willow. I know I lay in bed many a night when Obama was in office worried to death about our future. I seriously never dreamed people would become THIS unhinged.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)

-@----------------

I knew election night they were gonna flip their shit for a while. I had no idea it would go on this long, and keep getting worse.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (I16G8)

195 I think the list of charges against Manafort was shorter than this post.

In summary - The Anti-Falafal Goons will beat up with intent to kill anyone they think is an enemy.

This becomes grounds of pure self defense. Either me or the homicidal nut. I will always choose me if I find myself in such a situation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (YEriz)

196 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (UiRxW)

I count Antifa as the rebellious.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (2DOZq)

197 It's old.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (yQpMk)

198 He's hammering on Mad Max.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (+y/Ru)

199 scogg, because we're not Europe, and we already Knew the lessons of Russian, germany, Italy.

as recent events.

iblame education

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (dPd5y)

200 Look, someone attacked by these bastards, put in harm's and possible death's way (beatings are, by definition, unsafe), needs to pull a gun and shoot to kill in self-defense.

Posted by: S at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (zgX3V)

201 why would you think people in Western Civ wouldn't go unhinged again ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)

I don't know. I knew they would be pissed and throw a hissy fit but I did not imagine this. I truly did not.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (dUJdY)

202 The one with the trap door?
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (ylXIx)

No. That one is the back hole.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (1g7ch)

203 very good, Beating up on that sly Manchin dude

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (bUjCl)

204 Damn it!

Man who not take off old Confuscious sock, soon pull stinky feat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (JJ9bx)

205 There is a reason why the antifa don't come over on this side of the river. There is a reason this town is sometimes sneer at as "Vantucky". Patriot Prayer likes to take it over to Portland.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (JKNZq)

206 >>> I know I lay in bed many a night when Obama was in office worried to death about our future. I seriously never dreamed people would become THIS unhinged. Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)

That's the thing, Jewells. I understand the fear the average lefty or NeverTrumper has, because that is exactly how I felt during the Obama years. I kept waiting for the Sword of Damocles to fall each day he was in office, chipping more and more of our liberties away. It is exhausting to think your president does not have your best interests at heart and would prefer to see you dead. But I never, EVER dreamed of behaving the way the left has. Americans don't do that. The unhingement of the left over Trump, and how quickly the peace-and-love left swings to violence, is unsettling to behold.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (hvf9s)

207 The only candidate running for relection that has even spoken on this is Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (Xpw10)

208 ">>>This really is sad. More and more people are talking about a civil war coming, and these are people you would never had expected it coming from their mouths.

I am well aware. A friend told me that this topic comes up with some alarming frequency among her middle-of-the-road, middle-class, mortgage-holding church members.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (PA9oZ)"

-----------

This unrest is different from the 60s which was mostly the baby boomers throwing a temper tantrum at their parents, in other words a clash of generations.

The current situation is different in that it is purely ideological, the young may still be more represented on the left side but they did not come up with idea themselves, they are being led there by their teachers.

It's the complete divide between the media and academia and the rest of us that is scary.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (KN1xl)

209 But they're Elite. They caused the very uprising that resulted in their
exile, and did not see it coming, and took no action to co-opt the
coalition aligning against them.

I like substituting strange for great sins and PDT for Khan in Genghis's terrible punishment quote.

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (FhXTo)

210 Man who not take off old Confuscious sock, soon pull stinky feat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (JJ9bx)

LOL!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (txw6d)

211 Hit Antifa where they live.

End all federal student lending.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (oVJmc)

212 Talking about Mollie Tibbets now.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (fA1SL)

213 >"I wonder if this is what the Jews felt like as the Nazis took over?

When being an American and listening to liberals is like being Polish and listening to Hitler screech about lebensraum

Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (swEzU)

214

Trump talking about Mollie being murdered.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (uPlWr)

215 209
Genghis Don.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (fA1SL)

216 She was NEVER suppose to lose. Of course the Commies are going scorched earth. It's what they do.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (sFofr)

217 In summary - The Anti-Falafal Goons will beat up with intent to kill anyone they think is an enemy.

This becomes grounds of pure self defense. Either me or the homicidal nut. I will always choose me if I find myself in such a situation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (YEriz)
_________________

When this becomes common, Katy bar the door.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (ylXIx)

218 There is a reason why the antifa don't come over on this side of the river. There is a reason this town is sometimes sneer at as "Vantucky". Patriot Prayer likes to take it over to Portland.
Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (JKNZq)

Trump lost Vancouver...

...by less than 100 votes.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (DzFIB)

219 Maybe they want to start a civil war.
Maybe they are making the following calculation: in the best case, they win. In the worst case, they lose, but they inflict lasting damage to the US. Since they hate the US so much, it's worth it.
They control much of the press in the US. The official press in other countries sympathizes with them and the alternative press is much less professional and well-developed. So they can count on foreign sympathy and support.
The main organized opposition, with free Internet discussion, citizen journalism, citizen political movements, and a middle class that does not depend on the government for its existence, is in the US. If they defeat it, that's it for now.
In addition, they may be overestimating their strength, because they are constantly told that the laws of history are on their side.
But if they don't succeed, they'll just try somewhere else in 10-20 years.

Posted by: PG at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (iqCkn)

220 188
Yeah, I got insulted right into buying more firearms. Works every time.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (HgMAr)

221 Indeed LizLem. As I said I expected hissy fits and the constant drone from CNN etc of how bad a president he is. THIS... this is fucking scary. I just hope there is more us than there is of them.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dUJdY)

222 Good wife have seventy chores in home: cooking, and sixty-nine.

Posted by: Confucius at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (UiRxW)

223 Bander, would you check your mail. Oh, maybe you did.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (Xpw10)

224 So what's the real deal on the Cohen thing? On Twitter, Gabe Malor was talking like this is the end of Trump and that he and Bill Kristol will be treated as conquerors at the HQ tomorrow.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dkK+O)

225 *narrows eyes at Bander*

I'll call you in a bit.

But they're Elite. They caused the very uprising that resulted in their exile, and did not see it coming, and took no action to co-opt the coalition aligning against them.

But they're elite.

Just ask them!
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (PA9oZ)

Hey, just ask Tom Nichols about how we must all listen to him and fellow Experts because we must respect their Expertise even though they've been wrong about everything for, what, 30 years now?

Last I checked, you were an expert because you were good at what you do, not because you performed the ritualistic word dance properly.

You want to have fun? Quote the 2010 Republican Pledge to America to the Never Trumpers and say that it is a new Trump proposal and watch them condemn it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dEQP3)

226 Because we are Americans. We are exceptional. No sarcasm.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (lwiT4)
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Yeah, but we used to recognized God.

Christians are the buffer of Civilization. Long-suffering Christians, I mean. We are taught to absorb the burdens of other people. Not simply keep everything a balanced transaction.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (vDqXW)

227 "How many American citizens must be murdered by illegals just to make Nancy Pelosi feel good?"

Did Trump say that?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (YEriz)

228 I knew election night they were gonna flip their
shit for a while. I had no idea it would go on this long, and keep
getting worse.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (I16G

Amen.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (txw6d)

229 I got dibs on Ayers

sin, bird, doornail.

Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (nFwvY)

230 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)

Because we are Americans. We are exceptional. No sarcasm.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (lwiT4)

Really ? Grammie ... that's Horse Shit.

Americans did shit to other Americans like all the street-fights and riots that came along with the Organized Labor Movement. The one chapter Jonah got right in Liberal Fascism was just how Fascist the US was under Wilson.

Grammie ... it was Americans that served as State Police in Wisconsin - where you live - executing the John Doe raids to suppress Political Opposition to the Party In Charge. It was also Americans cutting down tents and threatening physical harm at the Wisconsin State House.

Peeps ... again ... sometimes I feel like I'm over my skates here ... because I surely can't be the only fucking person seeing this shit play out in real time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (fiGNd)

231 Freedom is the ability to call one male raping another male "homosexual rape".

If that is granted, all else must follow.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (EoRCO)

232 This is more like how Christians felt during Stalin and afterwards when 35 million were rounded up and tossed into Gulags for being Christian.

The More You Know....

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (sFofr)

233 While I agree with everything Ace said, I actually read this story in a way different than either he proposes.

One way is: AntiFa attacks innocent Bernie Bro.

Another is: AntiFa attacks American flag holder.

I read it as: Feel Good Story of the Week: Liberal Protester Hospitalized, No Conservatives Arrested or Hurt.
Posted by: Confuscious at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (JJ9bx)

Yep.

The majority of people are observers. It is all about Optics. There's no way to default to the right as the problem on this story. So, It shakes the narrative. It adds to the cognitive dissonance the population are already dealing with. It helps add to Walkaway.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (Nt/TS)

234 Gabe Malor was talking like this is the end of Trump and that he and
Bill Kristol will be treated as conquerors at the HQ tomorrow.

Oh geez

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (lwiT4)

235 Somebody made a comment a few days ago that rang true. It was that the tipping point would be reached when good men turn from thinking it is a sin to visit violence on these enemies of America to thinking that it is a sin not to visit violence on them.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (iGktu)

236 Glad he got into America was never great

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (lxZ71)

237 But they're elite.

Just ask them!
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (PA9oZ)

Something tells me they'll fare about as well as the left once the civil war is over. They'll not be claimed by either side.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (MX7xj)

238 ok, so, how will revolution start ? trigger ? French and German and Russian had serious economic undertones and were building and discontent was growing for decades. hwo is this revolution going to start - with tax cuts and market through the roof and more people living better ? we gonna establish monarchy or what ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (bUjCl)

239 So civil war, huh?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (BvNr4)

240
How many American citizens must be murdered by illegals just to make Nancy Pelosi feel good?"
Did Trump say that?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (YEriz)

No

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (10vO4)

241 USA USA USA USA!

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (lxZ71)

242 Bander, would you check your mail. Oh, maybe you did.
Posted by: Ben Had

Yeah, I'll be back to you after consultation with the hobbitess.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (fuK7c)

243 I'm not saying that I've ever thought much about civil war and social breakdown.

I'm just saying that if it happens, I know what I'd do.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (JJ9bx)

244 So what's the real deal on the Cohen thing? On Twitter, Gabe Malor was talking like this is the end of Trump and that he and Bill Kristol will be treated as conquerors at the HQ tomorrow.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dkK+O)

------------

Thank you for taking one for the team and following that RINO GOPe Elitist asshole.

He is just wishcasting. If he comes back, I'm out.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (I16G8)

245 Is the Empress planning a little soiree involving Capt Bill and a not quite dead emu?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (YEriz)

246

What makes the Dems fume even more, inside the beltway, is the number of judges, and the SC Judge that Trump has placed.

Soros always dreamed of taking over the judiciary. And all representatives from townships to big cities. Total control.

That sh*t got stopped cold when Trump won. It's taking them back ages, and it is making them furious.

As he rolls back the hard core left's "progress" the unhinged become even more so.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (uPlWr)

247 Donald Trump has the patience of Job.

If you're Donald Trump, how pissed off are you today?

How gauling must it be to have Lanny Fucking Davis out there calling you a criminal?

If I were him, the Saturday Night Massacre would be tinker toys compared to the hell I would unleash on these lawless cocksuckers.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (kT3/m)

248 Grammie ... it was Americans that served as State Police in Wisconsin - where you live - executing the John Doe raids to suppress Political Opposition to the Party In Charge. It was also Americans cutting down tents and threatening physical harm at the Wisconsin State House.

Peeps ... again ... sometimes I feel like I'm over my skates here ... because I surely can't be the only fucking person seeing this shit play out in real time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (fiGNd)
***********

grammie didn't say we were perfect.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (ylXIx)

249 I wish he wouldn't talk about how great the stock market is doing. Because that could vanish overnight.

And this isn't the greatest economy we've ever had when we're umpteen trillion dollars in debt.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

250 Anyone who supports, or fails to condemn, Antifa is guilty of sedition. Why this organization is not targeted by the FBI the way the KKK was is an interesting question. Muslims kills Christians and Jews throughout the mideast with impunity and anyone who comments on that is Islamophobic. Antifa beats up Trump supporters, and if you say anything you must be part of the alt right (which I really don't think has a sufficient definition to be a meaningful category). To me, the second it became ok to heckle conservatives on campus, is the day the war went public. And still we sit hoping someone will make it better. With these two scalps on Mueller's belt, understand the message. Anyone who works in this administration is a target. And anyone who wears a MAGA hat is a target. The war is here and has been for more than a decade.

Posted by: IanDeal at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (5mrLG)

251 This is still only happening in god forsaken democratic hellholes. Everyone seems sane around here.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (yQpMk)

252 USA USA USA USA!

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (lxZ71)
............

Oh, the MSM must be cringing.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (HgMAr)

253 people are lazy pieces of shit who would rather talk civil war than make any calls.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (Nt/TS)

Calls to who? My representative? Hahahahaha

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (BTA9k)

254 Help me out here, where is the bad news in this story?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, sitting quietly in the corner at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (XlbwU)

255 Peeps ... again ... sometimes I feel like I'm over
my skates here ... because I surely can't be the only fucking person
seeing this shit play out in real time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (fiGNd)

You aren't alone, Scoggy.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (txw6d)

256 Americans did shit to other Americans like all the street-fights and riots that came along with the Organized Labor Movement.

I know these things, ScoggDog - but I am talking in a more sweeping sense. Not individual incidents, but in the idea that is America. We are exceptional, as Ronnie so eloquently articulated. The idea of America is clashing right now with the idea of Nihilistic Utopia. I think, in God's Providence, that the exceptional America will prevail.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (lwiT4)

257 It wouldn't be Sessions per se. It could be that they had the plan to claim he, too, was a RUSSIAN AGENT and take him out of the loop.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (PA9oZ)

How come' out of the blue, Sessions endorsed Trump ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (7rpiB)

258 Is the Empress planning a little soiree involving Capt Bill and a not quite dead emu?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (YEriz)

I would never subject an emu to that!

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (dEQP3)

259 Here's some food for thought:

We've had the same politicians, and the same pundits around for decades. The leftists very rarely move to the right; the allegedly conservative ones almost always move left. Nevertheless, being a politician or a political commentator basically means having a very easy life with very little work.

That state of affairs may be coming to an end soon. Look at those commentators on TV and ask yourself, "Which of these 'men' will meet violent deaths?"

I hope David Frum and William Kristol will be on that list.

Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (E8aRS)

260 grammie didn't say we were perfect.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (ylXIx)

She said shit wouldn't go sideways because we're "exceptional".

She's wrong. Shit's happened in her own backyard to show she's wrong.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (fiGNd)

261 >>>Another is: AntiFa attacks American flag holder.

That was my first take.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (txw6d)

262 History aptly shows that when the people start to fight back, when you make the average American take time away from his family and job to defend our freedom, it doesn't end well for the other side.

Ow I'm perfectly fine beating these people again at the ballot box b cute there is so much at stake. But if they make me get off my chair to defend liberty, it's going to get ugly for them, to the point it will be a generation before they even feel safe to open their mouths.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (9lgjh)

263 So since the geniuses in the media determined that since Fa is "anti-fascist", if they attack you, you're a fascist. Because that's what they attack.

So this guy is a fascist, right? Anybody attacked by Fa is a fascist, because Fa calls themselves ant-fascists and the media is trying to teach us all how to have a really simple mind.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (vDqXW)

264 Jewells45, we are smarter and better equipped.
To reiterate 1 D'oh boy is equal to 500 antifa.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (Xpw10)

265 French and German and Russian had serious economic
undertones and were building and discontent was growing for decades. hwo
is this revolution going to start - with tax cuts and market through
the roof and more people living better ? we gonna establish monarchy or
what ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (bUjCl)
This isn't France or Germany or Russia. I don't know exactly how it begins.
But keep in mind the British North American Colonies had a higher standard living than Europe, and it was consistently rising when AR1 was started by wealthy and middle-class merchants and farmers.
We have different motivations, and are more easily angered by authority here.
It's a mindset that seems to be fading, but I think there's still enough of it left to making things pretty sporty.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (UiRxW)

266 Pretty convenient that the DOJ had this Cohen shit to spring, the same day as the bad news about Manafort

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (7rpiB)

267 He is just wishcasting. If he comes back, I'm out.

Oh no. The cocksucker will get an ear full to go with his ass full.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (yQpMk)

268 Thus we have proof that the Empress somewhere in that heart shaped shadowed darkness where a heart should be, she does have concerns for animals.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (YEriz)

269 >>> With shit in the History Books about the French Revolution, NAZI Germany, Reconstruction in the South ... why would you think people in Western Civ wouldn't go unhinged again ?

As a kid I remember feeling proud we no longer punished people by putting them in the stocks, or burning them at the stake, or crucifying them, as a form of punishment and a lesson to others. Then the social media revolution happened, and I realized human nature never changes. The desire to punish and destroy others in public never changes. We just give it prettier trappings and a blue check mark.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (hvf9s)

270 Trump rocking WVA rally!

Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (nd5mm)

271 The Portland Antifa types are whining that this is getting a lot of publicity, while an Antifa guy who refuses to identify himself was allegedly hit in the head by a police munition at the same demonstration.

He has dramatic pictures of a large crowd control round sticking out of his helmet. Unfortunately, people noted that the helmet metal around the round is sticking out, not in. (The guy works in a metal shop.)

He also claimed that he went to a hospital (also anyonomous), was so seriously injured that they had to install a shunt to remove the blood from hemorrhaging, and yet was still released in 24 hours.

Needless to say, the guy will never turn over his helmet or his medical records for independent review, but he did succeed in his goal - slandering the Portland police.

Posted by: The ARC of History at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (Mrl1e)

272 Yeah, Ken sounds like a moby.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (sdi6R)

273 224 On Twitter, Gabe Malor was talking like...
Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dkK+O)

LOL

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:51 PM (BTA9k)

274 Thus we have proof that the Empress somewhere in that heart shaped shadowed darkness where a heart should be, she does have concerns for animals.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (YEriz)

I'm not an entire monster, after all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:51 PM (dEQP3)

275 What absolutebullshit that Cohen thing is.What a dirty little backstabbing shit he is.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:51 PM (mCMQ5)

276 Oh, my. An Ace Essay. Thank you.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at August 21, 2018 07:51 PM (fCE6j)

277 When being an American and listening to liberals is like being Polish and listening to Hitler screech about lebensraum

Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (swEzU)

Or Palp's great-grandfather when the Germans introduced Liverwurst during the occupation.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 07:52 PM (4ErVI)

278 Helmet with a round sticking in it?

Green Helmet guy was one of the refugees Gaylord let in and has moved to Portland?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:52 PM (YEriz)

279 She said shit wouldn't go sideways because we're "exceptional".

That's not exactly what I said. You asked why people didn't see this coming long ago. I meant that I did not imagine this happening because we are America.

I may be naive, but that's what I think. In the end, I think the good guys win. In fact, I know it.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (lwiT4)

280 Pretty convenient that the DOJ had this Cohen shit to spring, the same day as the bad news about Manafort
Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (7rpiB)

They should have waited a week or two.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (1g7ch)

281 Please. It was not "the Baby Boomers throwing a temper tantrum at their parents." It was young people that did not want to go to Vietnam and get shot at. That's why the antifa people are wimpier than the protesters in the 70s. Their life isn't at risk. They are not in danger of getting drafted.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (JKNZq)

282 I have warrior blood. My ancestors were football hooligans. I'll just pop in to Starbuks on the way to the rumble.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (RuIsu)

283 Trump mentioned the Nazi getting shipped back to Germany, yay! And giving ICE their due.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (hvf9s)

284 If there is to be shooting, the lame stream media should be on everyone's top three list.

All of them, then turn the TV off.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (EoRCO)

285 I think, in God's Providence, that the exceptional America will prevail.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (lwiT4)

Then it's just Faith grammie ... plenty of God Fearin' Southerners felt the same.

Didn't work out.

I have no doubt ... if there's a next world ... you're a shoe-in.

I'm game-planning this one, though. Kind of all-in. Pot Committed, as we say on the card table.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)

286 We have different motivations, and are more easily angered by authority here.
It's a mindset that seems to be fading, but I think there's still enough of it left to making things pretty sporty.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (UiRxW)

Revolutions overthrow governemtns. Civil war is disintegration of law and order when no one is in charge, and rule of the gun takes over. Are were there yet ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (bUjCl)

287 Or Palp's great-grandfather when the Germans introduced Liverwurst during the occupation.

Liverwurst is goooood.

Whatever metaphor you're straining for needs improvement.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)

288 Oh no. The cocksucker will get an ear full to go with his ass full.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (yQpMk)

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Good news is I'm 99% sure he would not sully himself by slithering back "down here".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:54 PM (I16G8)

289 Some asshole on Insty "he had no reason to make. This up" LOL

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:54 PM (mCMQ5)

290 Oh hey wasn't Omowhat'sit supposed to be on Hardball tonight with some kind of videotapes?

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:54 PM (dEQP3)

291 Then the social media revolution happened, and I realized human nature never changes. The desire to punish and destroy others in public never changes. We just give it prettier trappings and a blue check mark.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (hvf9s)
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Yes, social media allows you to never be disconnected from mob dynamics!

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:54 PM (vDqXW)

292 I may be naive, but that's what I think. In the end, I think the good guys win. In fact, I know it.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (lwiT4)

Yep, the good guys win. But Satan gets a lot of good punches in, so it's hard to remember that sometimes. Thanks for the reminder grammie.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (hvf9s)

293 Whatever happened in discovery for the US vs some Russian companies?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (yQpMk)

294 How come' out of the blue, Sessions endorsed Trump ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (7rpiB)

Remember, at that time, Trump was a weapon-banning, pro-abortion, progressive taxation, single payer healthcare leftist.

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (BTA9k)

295 So they just did a panning crowd shot at the WV rally and it is strikes me every time that Trump gets more people than a mid-level rock concert (it would be fuller with a top-level rock concert, but that's what it would take).

Is this unusual in our history? I can't remember politicians ever crowds like this, and can't fathom it in a midterm year. I don't know whether to be pleased or distressed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (I2dne)

296 This shit is all going on o backfire on the left bigly.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (mCMQ5)

297 Your argument might carry more weight if you remember the Chicago Seven, the DNC convention, Mayor Daily's famous slip of the tongue, and LBJ deciding not to run for re-election.

That is how we got Nixon.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (YEriz)

298 President Trump saying the economy is going to go much higher than 4.1%

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (lxZ71)

299 Remember, at that time, Trump was a weapon-banning, pro-abortion, progressive taxation, single payer healthcare leftist.

But right on immigration. I think that was the deal with Sessions.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (yQpMk)

300 That's not exactly what I said. You asked why people didn't see this coming long ago. I meant that I did not imagine this happening because we are America.

I may be naive, but that's what I think. In the end, I think the good guys win. In fact, I know it.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (lwiT4)

I saw it but I'm a cynic. Also I've read a lot of history so I know people are generally shitty and everything, everywhere always devolves into this type of stuff.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (4ErVI)

301 Trump rocking WVA rally!
Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (nd5mm)

yeah, it's great.

He's going to be on the road a lot, thank goodness. Ignoring Mueller has got to be getting to him.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (uPlWr)

302 Shit ... Hey Miley.

With all you got goin' on ... surprised you're here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (fiGNd)

303 290 Video tapes now?She hide a camera in her front hole?

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (mCMQ5)

304 Oh I gotta run to a dinner thing. Have fun with the rest of the rally and a lovely evening!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (hvf9s)

305 *couriers to the Empress a slice of pie with ice cream on top*

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (YEriz)

306 Said 25% tax on EU cars

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (lxZ71)

307 Liverwurst is goooood.

Whatever metaphor you're straining for needs improvement.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)

It's from last night when we talked about the Nazis bringing liverwurst to the Balkans during the war. I'm just needling Palp if he's around.

He likes it. I think he said black bread, butter, liverwurst, and raw onions.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (4ErVI)

308 Can we deport antifa back to Germany?

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (Y274z)

309 Is this unusual in our history? I can't remember politicians ever crowds like this, and can't fathom it in a midterm year. I don't know whether to be pleased or distressed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (I2dne)

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Be pleased. Added bonus is that PDT draws tremendous energy from these events.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (I16G8)

310 Yeah,sadly Nixon was a big state,high spending,high taxing social liberal....

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (mCMQ5)

311 Meanwhile: Madonna looks like she just arrived back from Planet Ding-Dong.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (HgMAr)

312 people are lazy pieces of shit who would rather talk civil war than make any calls.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (Nt/TS)

Calls to who? My representative? Hahahahaha
Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (BTA9k)

I promised people I would no longer go into this in detail, so I won't. But you can you can use your damn phone and call anyone you want in our fvcking government and be heard. The fact I have to tell you that tells me you have never even bothered to try and call anyone. Easier to bitch here and wherever else and moan about a civil war. But do anything to stop it? Forget it. Let's become the Middle East instead. Guns and violence.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (Nt/TS)

313 Fox dropped coverage but Fox business has it

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (lxZ71)

314 Omorosa could have slipped a Galaxy Note into her bra set to record...

Yeesh, where is a TSA agent to do an invasive pat-down when you need one?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (YEriz)

315 In every small hamlet throughout the country, there are one or two corrupt businessmen that run the show. They are who your local representatives bastardize the law on behalf of. They are the ones that make the payments.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (JJ9bx)

316 they already had their revolution - installed obama. Trump is counter revolution.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (bUjCl)

317 Fox has it back on

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (lxZ71)

318 Thank you AP. om nom nom

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (dEQP3)

319 Adios LizLem.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (bUjCl)

320 I've always thought of Trump as Alcibiades.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (2DOZq)

321 Trump is rocking it in WV. Good job. He always does.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (yJ1e6)

322 Said 25% tax on EU cars
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (lxZ71)
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To retaliate on theirs, and I understand why they chose not to back down on that point. I read somewhere that Volkswagen AG game-planned it and found that if the EU tariffs on US autos came down, then it made or sense for VAG to build their Euro-spec cars in their US plants - and expand those plants - and import them into Europe.

There's no way Germany lets that happen, so a mutual tariff is where we end up instead of bidirectional non-tarifed trade.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (I2dne)

323 It's from last night when we talked about the Nazis bringing liverwurst to the Balkans during the war. I'm just needling Palp if he's around.

Oh. Your cause is just. Proceed.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (fuK7c)

324 So true about the double standard in the law. People here are asking why they have to clean their glass trash when bums can shoot up in public and shit in the street. Lots of anger rising up in ca.

Posted by: Pj at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (qlTN9)

325 The left took very little the right didn't give it. The ostensible right.
Has Jonah Geldberg - 'On the American Road' - hidden behind Geo Washington yet today to obscenely insult another possibly unseemly member of the religious community? On Twatter? Because: Conservatism?
Trump is the accidental president. He will be squandered.

Posted by: Ten at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (Xlssn)

326 This is horrible stuff. Innocent people are probably going to be injured and its tragic. When you've rarely been exposed to more than a paper cut, only to have someone attempt to bash your head in with a bludgeon at a peaceful demonstration, well, it is an eye-opening experience. Ugly, totally avoidable situations when law enforcement upholds their end of the social compact.

Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (CdLX2)

327 Antifa and the Brown shirts went after each other viciously.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (Y274z)

328 Omorosa could have slipped a Galaxy Note into her bra set to record...
............

or a reel to reel in her Doomsday Machine

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (HgMAr)

329 234 Gabe Malor was talking like this is the end of Trump and that he and
Bill Kristol will be treated as conquerors at the HQ tomorrow.

Oh geez
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM

Yea, I had a dream I banged Markie Post and Heather Thomas after being a guest star on "The Fall Guy" because Lee Majors was sick. There's many things these nevertrumpers have dreamed of. Keep dreaming. Maybe Gabe had a dream that he and Billy Kristolnacht had a make out scene on the Lido deck at night. Not that there's anything wrong with that.....

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (VZV4A)

330 207 The only candidate running for relection that has even spoken on this is Ted Cruz.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (Xpw10

Spoken on what, specifically, please?

Posted by: Emmie at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (4HMW8)

331 o retaliate on theirs, and I understand why they chose not to back down on that point. I read somewhere that Volkswagen AG game-planned it and found that if the EU tariffs on US autos came down, then it made or sense for ~~VAG~~ Front Hole to build their Euro-spec cars in their US plants - and expand those plants - and import them into Europe.

There's no way Germany lets that happen, so a mutual tariff is where we end up instead of bidirectional non-tarifed trade.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

FIFY

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (Iccum)

332 How come' out of the blue, Sessions endorsed Trump ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (7rpiB)

Remember, at that time, Trump was a weapon-banning, pro-abortion, progressive taxation, single payer healthcare leftist.
Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (BTA9k)

Total bullshit. Sessions was instrumental in Trump's campaign. It goes back to an open letter and some memos Sessions wrote to the country about the Establishment. It did not come from "out of the blue". He was there from the beginning.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (Nt/TS)

333 In every small hamlet throughout the country, there are one or two corrupt businessmen that run the show. They are who your local representatives bastardize the law on behalf of. They are the ones that make the payments.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (JJ9bx)

Yup......I have dealt with city, county, state and federal officials.

At every level and in every instance, the government and it's reps were corrupt and self serving to the core.

The facade is to make the average ignorant citizen feel comfortable while it goes on.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (EoRCO)

334 For years it has been Underpants Gnome thinking on fixing DC.

1. Elect Bullsworth
2. ...
3. Victory

Well #2 turns out to be Trump. And people are now whining "but he's not OUR Bullsworth!"

To which I paraphrase Rumsfeld, "You fight with what you got."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (YEriz)

335 FIFY
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (Iccum)
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Fistbump.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (I2dne)

336 Antifa trying to shut down Faith Goldy's Toronto mayoral campaign:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA8S6FmTd8Y

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (vWMNq)

337 Yea, I had a dream I banged Markie Post and Heather Thomas after being a guest star on "The Fall Guy"

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I had a dream where Jessica Alba and Zooey Deschanel both had the hots for me but because they didn't want to share me they duked it out in a mud wrestling contest.

Why can't real life be this way?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (+dsLj)

338 Gabe can go do a double shift at the glory hole to celebrate.Connecting this bullshit as a campaign finance violation is @ stretch and you are going to remove a president for it?LOLEnjoy your bag of dicks Gabe.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (mCMQ5)

339
A federal grand jury indicted Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) and his wife on Tuesday evening on charges of misusing campaign funds for personal expenses. Funny how this happens on the same day as Cohen and Manafort.

I think he was scheduled to win that district and am wondering what can be done? I believe he beat his Rep. opponent by a lot and I think the 2 people with the largest amount of votes, regardless of Party would run against each other.
Anybody in Ca. that knows about how this would work?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (hECVl)

340 I think, in God's Providence, that the exceptional America will prevail.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (lwiT4)

Then it's just Faith grammie ... plenty of God Fearin' Southerners felt the same.

Didn't work out.

I have no doubt ... if there's a next world ... you're a shoe-in.

I'm game-planning this one, though. Kind of all-in. Pot Committed, as we say on the card table.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)
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You're antagonistic to grammie's commitment for the good to win. To what are you Pot Committed?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (ylXIx)

341 He's just free styling now. He might segue into Space Force at any moment.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (/tuJf)

342 Start with stealth. Select target, do recon, choose the time and place most to your advantage, use a hammer, knife, or some other silent means. Always attack from the rear. Sanitize the weapon and discard it in a dumpster 50 miles away from the scene of the deed. Burn the clothes you wore including footwear.

Wait for the time to start shooting. Be of good cheer.

Posted by: colfax mingo at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (NgPkP)

343 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (Nt/TS)

I don't think Levin even does his Levin Surge thing anymore. Yes, I've called and left messages with the snarky intern girls. If commies cared what you think they wouldn't go to such lengths to silence us.

There us the option of a peaceful separation. It doesn't have to be war, but this isn't the 80's anymore and our government is more corrupt than Mexico.

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (BTA9k)

344 The facade is to make the average ignorant citizen feel comfortable while it goes on.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (EoRCO)

Yep. And it mostly works.

To the point that the Serfs get pissed off when they don't get to observe their Song of Allegiance before the Gladiators get started.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (fiGNd)

345 Glad you enjoyed the pie Empress. Last night my store had a surplus of blueberry pies marked-down. Been happily snacking down the one I allowed myself.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (YEriz)

346 The ultra-woke beating the shit out of the not-woke-enough?

Can you pronounce autophagy? I know you can.

Posted by: Mr. Rogers 'hood. at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (RfnqA)

347 Wonder how long he will go on? I think he could go on until 11

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (lxZ71)

348 Revolutions overthrow governemtns. Civil war is
disintegration of law and order when no one is in charge, and rule of
the gun takes over. Are were there yet ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (bUjCl)

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Semantically, you're right - but that's not how history books are written.The American Civil War was a revolution that failed, and the victors labeled it a civil war. The Russian Revolution was a breakdown of law and order where the rule of the gun took over, and the last men standing labeled it a revolution.

And, we're not there yet. Don't know what'll be the spark. One near-term possibility? Dems take the House in November, and draft Articles. Republicunts in the Senate convict. Hell follows.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (UiRxW)

349 Fox dropped coverage but Fox business has it

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (lxZ71)
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Been watching it on FNC now.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (hECVl)

350 He's just free styling now. He might segue into Space Force at any moment.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (/tuJf)

I love him loving this.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (lwiT4)

351 It looks like he hit him in the back of the head with an umbrella

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (SiINZ)

352 Is there any doubt there is a conspiracy to get the Democrats the congressional majority?Obama had 8 years plus the natural left wong tilt o stock the bureaucracy.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (mCMQ5)

353 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (IqV8l)

354 There us the option of a peaceful separation. It doesn't have to be war, but this isn't the 80's anymore and our government is more corrupt than Mexico.
Posted by: SERENITY NOW

Who gets to wear the colander face mask and tell the left to "just walk away."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (Iccum)

355 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)
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You're antagonistic to grammie's commitment for the good to win. To what are you Pot Committed?
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (ylXIx)

Slick ... believe what you want. But read a History Book or two along the way.

Plenty of Jews, I assume, took their last showers thinking The Good Guys Will Win.

Maybe they do, in the Macro-Sense. But I'm strictly working in the Micro here.

If you're thinking Macro ... we ain't got much to talk about. Other than Get Out Of My Way.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (fiGNd)

356 353 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (IqV8l)

About to fall on his face.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (2DOZq)

357 He's just free styling now. He might segue into Space Force at any moment.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (/tuJf)

Please please please.

Also crappity now I want turkey. Which is delicious, Bander, you wrong being of wrongness.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM (dEQP3)

358 "Over my skates"

Is that a synonym for "Bollard bombing"???

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM (YEriz)

359 I love how I'm here with extreme violent thoughts about what I want to do to leftists and Trump is talking about cookies.

LOL

I think I'd probably do well to follow his example more often.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM (+dsLj)

360 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.

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Ass over teakettle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM (UiRxW)

361 Is there any doubt there is a conspiracy to get the Democrats the congressional majority?Obama had 8 years plus the natural left wong tilt o stock the bureaucracy.
Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (mCMQ5)

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They may get the House. They have no path to even come close in the Senate.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (I16G8)

362 Evening all! Love PDT, but the greatest thing ever would be if he gave a shout out to Ace and the Moron Horde at the end of his presidency in 2024. And finally admits that he is Ace.

Posted by: Jmel at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (OeWgo)

363 I wonder if PDT actually calls Trudeau "Justin" without any honorific or even a last name.

If he does, I'd bet a fair amount of money that Trudeau doesn't call PDT "Donald."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (I2dne)

364 Emmie, Ted has said that he has seen more outright anger in this Country than ever before. Ted is campaigning hard and he has his ear to the ground , so to speak.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (Xpw10)

365 The Empress Elle Trip to Fanning?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (YEriz)

366 I had a dream where Jessica Alba and Zooey Deschanel both had the hots for me but because they didn't want to share me they duked it out in a mud wrestling contest.

Why can't real life be this way?
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM

Well that would work too! Gabe Billy, Jonuh and the rest of the cucks with their CNN bulls can dream all they want. At worst they got a finance violation which is a fine to the Trump campaign. Yet no collusion, no RUSSSSSIIAAA! nothing but a bunch of shysters getting clipped for tax shit that had nothing to do with Trump. Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (VZV4A)

367 348
And, we're not there yet. Don't know what'll be the spark. One near-term possibility? Dems take the House in November, and draft Articles. Republicunts in the Senate convict. Hell follows.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (UiRxW)

That would do it. That would be the Uniparty telling the Deplorables, "Fuck you. It's not your country anymore. It belongs to us now."

There is something else that could spark it that I would rather not mention.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (sdi6R)

368 Also crappity now I want turkey. Which is delicious, Bander, you wrong being of wrongness.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM

Has someone been slandering the deliciousness that is turkey?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM (mxvSl)

369 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (VZV4A)

...... and this was in June.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM (lwiT4)

370 Don't know what'll be the spark. One near-term possibility? Dems take the House in November, and draft Articles. Republicunts in the Senate convict. Hell follows.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (UiRxW)
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Or when antifa attacks become a nightly event.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM (ylXIx)

371 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.

It's the same as "out over my skis". If you're skating or skiing aggressively your weight is forward. Your center of gravity is actually just in front of the sweet spot on your skates of skis.

If you get too aggressive, you're too far over your skis, you fall on your face.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (fuK7c)

372 "I may be naive, but that's what I think. In the end, I think the good guys win. In fact, I know it.
"

imo we need to act like our founders to make the good win. We can't wait for the third heaven and earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

or at least, we can have "peace in our time", or we can wander in the wilderness. The world has mostly been run by the corrupt, or as Western Civ progressed, the less corrupt tried to avoid the pitfalls of the masses rebelling.

Now we have the corrupt of WallSt and their paper trillions, their shadow unregulated derivatives quadrillion, just trying to keep the people of the last free hill (to not die on) of America to stay quiet as they marginalize us with third world imports. And so many (even Trump) play in the paper investment world of contrived trillions, and 2Big2Fail/Jail leveraged (almost) trillionaires.

Too many of the middle have their retirement invested in China and the oligarch "manifest fiat currency destiny". Even Richard Dreyfus on tucker said we need to reinforce the preamble ... teach civics. It will be a road to recovery based on that, not oligarch NWO control of humans as widgets.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (bT8Z4)

373 My dreams never include famous hotties as far as I can remember.Old girlfriends usually....

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (mCMQ5)

374 It's the same as "out over my skis". If you're skating or skiing aggressively your weight is forward. Your center of gravity is actually just in front of the sweet spot on your skates of skis.

If you get too aggressive, you're too far over your skis, you fall on your face.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (fuK7c)

It suddenly occurs to me there is an obvious reason why I can't ski.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (dEQP3)

375 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (fiGNd)

You did not answer the question.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (ylXIx)

376 I should be in bed, asleep. But this is entertaining

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (lxZ71)

377 The Anti-Falafals really need to step up their game. Stop pooping on Po-Po cars and move to burning Prius with the wrong bumper sticker slogans on them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (YEriz)

378 369 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....
...... and this was in June.

...... and she was out 4-wheeling from the still by herself with a truck full of 'shine.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (qul7b)

379 There is something else that could spark it that I would rather not mention.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:09

That would spark a war these fools can't begin to conceive.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (mxvSl)

380 Really good point.
antifa did not attack a Bernie supporter.
antifa attacked a man carrying a flag.
so that means... any American is a target now.
Any.
American.
And the MSM is totes ok with this.

Posted by: shibumi at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (SbIX4)

381 And, we're not there yet. Don't know what'll be the
spark. One near-term possibility? Dems take the House in November, and
draft Articles. Republicunts in the Senate convict. Hell follows.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (UiRxW)

I had serious concerns in 2008, obama doing enough damage to the point where we could never recover - make the US into the European union with no way back. then ..the TEA party, Congress turned over and the only thing he could do is executive order. All his legacy trashed in the first year of Trump. They are trying to stop it - Russia Kolyzhion is all they have.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (bUjCl)

382 It suddenly occurs to me there is an obvious reason why I can't ski.

Talking that center of mass problem again and why 4in heels are your enemy?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (YEriz)

383 Emmie, Ted has said that he has seen more outright anger in this Country than ever before. Ted is campaigning hard and he has his ear to the ground , so to speak.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (Xpw10)

Thank you, Ben Had. I have a special interest in Ted Cruz. I'm watching to see if he remains consistent with my initial impression.

Posted by: Emmie at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (4HMW8)

384 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....
...... and this was in June.

...... and she was out 4-wheeling from the still by herself with a truck full of 'shine.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits

Turning into a David Allen Coe song here.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (Iccum)

385 You know who says "over my skates"?Snow Wops that's who!

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (mCMQ5)

386 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (VZV4A)

...... and this was in June.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM

LOL

Hey it's snowed here in June, not enough for a blizzard, OK, maybe her car broke down...or it was a dark stormy (not that ho) night....Oh I forgot to mention, we were the only ones left on the planet and were tasked with repopulating earth. I just never had the heart to tell her I was fixed.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (VZV4A)

387 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (IqV8l)

Running out of talent, as the NASCAR drivers say. Getting in over my head.

It's self-deprecating.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (fiGNd)

388 >>I love him loving this.

The tax cut, cut, cut, cut bill.

He is not just doing what I want and far exceeding my expectations he is endlessly entertaining. I have no idea what will come out his mouth next but I doubt it will be religion of peace.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (/tuJf)

389 Oh man Trump just point blank going after the notion that he's going to censor anyone is awesome.

And good for him for bringing up Right to Try.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (dEQP3)

390 this was Dreyfus in 2017 on Tucker ... pushing civics in schools

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gzS2z_8wpA

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 08:15 PM (bT8Z4)

391 Anyone check on Mika?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (YEriz)

392 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....
...... and this was in June.
...... and she was out 4-wheeling from the still by herself with a truck full of 'shine.
...... and she had some DVD's of her and several hotties making sweet lipstick lesbian love.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (qul7b)

393 Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:04

I just heard the 1st congresscritter to endorse Trump was indicted for something. Duncan Hunter was the 2nd. See a pattern here? They want to f@#k everyone who got Trump elected.

Manafort and Cohen wouldn't be in court unless they worked for Trump. Others skated on more, who was that NJ senator that slole/lost billions and got off scott free? Deep state at work.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (yJ1e6)

394 341 He's just free styling now. He might segue into Space Force at any moment.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (/tuJf)

Speaking of which, last night I mentioned that there is a European satellite that is designed to measure winds in the Earth's atmosphere. Its launch has been delayed by high winds at the launch site. I found that hilarious.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

395 I think GW and SDogg are both correct.

We need to keep the higher values of our esteemed founders tucked away in the corner of our hearts (good guy values)when the time comes and you have to eliminate those who wish you harm, have a "co-exist" bumper sticker and wave the Antifa laundry.

Even if this means half the people living on your block. Even if they are related to you. Even if.....

Then after it is done, pull that little goodness out of your inner heart and let it redeem you somewhat.

But remain vigilant and be prepared to do what has to be done.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (EoRCO)

396 osted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM
...Yes, go on...

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (VZV4A)

397 The Star Trek episode The Arena is on H&I channel. Second only to the Hippie episode Eden to make me laugh.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (2DOZq)

398 I should just go to bed, he might still be going when I get up

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (lxZ71)

399 And there it is.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (/tuJf)

400 Space Force!

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (dEQP3)

401 space FORCE !

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (bUjCl)

402 And Space Force!

Give JackStraw a pickle.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (fuK7c)

403 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....
...... and this was in June.
...... and she was out 4-wheeling from the still by herself with a truck full of 'shine.
...... and she had some DVD's of her and several hotties making sweet lipstick lesbian love.
...... and a 32 oz bottle of warming Astroglide had just spilled all over her only pair of clothes.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (qul7b)

404 Send Nikky Haley to space !

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (bUjCl)

405 SPAAACE FORCE!

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (sdi6R)

406 Manafort and Cohen wouldn't be in court unless they worked for Trump. Others skated on more, who was that NJ senator that slole/lost billions and got off scott free? Deep state at work.
Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (yJ1e6)
++++++++++
You talking about Jon "The Jersey Devil" Corzine? Yeah, tearing down the ring-fence between customer and broker money to go all-in on peripheral European sovereign bonds when it is convenient for his buddy in the white house (and his buddy who used to live there) to have that happen should have landed him in a #meInTheAss prison for a very long time. Curiously, nothing happened. Peculiar.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (I2dne)

407 Send Nikky Haley to space !
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (bUjCl)

I'll um brb

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (dEQP3)

408 My boy is in the VA. You can bet your bottom dollar he's getting the vets what they are entitled to. There will be no "You're Fired" for him.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (lwiT4)

409 Trump speech/music/book nood

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (Iccum)

410 I did a political discussion group for a while here in town. We had a good group of D and R and had lively but productive discussions about unfunded liability and healthcare.

I wanted to move on to a Civics class. o made that impossible. You could be prosecuted under his rules.
I will go back and dig up the news articles about it. It did happen here.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (Xpw10)

411 A few weeks ago I saw an antifa street peddler artist working on his really shitty geometric paintings. He was sporting full on fascist regalia including facemask. Our city doesn't permit street peddling outside of organized crafts fairs.

He had already spilled his turpentine wash and oil paints on the sidewalk. His canvases were yellowed old birch kitchen cabinet doors - his slapdash display blocked the whole sidewalk. I can appreciate art if said art is well executed. His art was just terrible. He claimed to have sold one of his works.

The police just cruised by. Nothing to see here, folks.

Posted by: 13times at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (K3B2k)

412 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (fiGNd)

You did not answer the question.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (ylXIx)

Of course I did. You just don't like the answer.

Because the answer is ... I don't give a shit about your faith.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (fiGNd)

413 Gone fishing...

https://tinyurl.com/ydad28uv

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (jDF8P)

414 JERUSALEM!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (lwiT4)

415
If you get too aggressive, you're too far over your skis, you fall on your face.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

The agony of deface.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (IqV8l)

416 Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (VZV4A)

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First year I lived in Colorado's Front Range, I was ten. Moved here in the winter, which turned to spring and summer, and in the exceedingly beautiful way it does in the Rockies. Coming from Pittsburgh I was loving everything about my new home. And then, it snowed. On the Fourth of July.

Nothing like it has happened since, but with no frame of reference, I this was the normal order, and questioned whether my dad made the right call.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (UiRxW)

417 Good analysis, well stated Ace.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (IDhUW)

418 LOL, Trump is telling the WV crowd THEY are the elite! Love it.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (yJ1e6)

419 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (I2dne)

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And, IIRC, he resides in style on some non-extradiion tropical isle with a mai-tai like an evil-ass "Milton" from "Office Space."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (UiRxW)

420 Missed what trump said about censorship> Anyone catch what he said?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (hECVl)

421 Speaking of which, last night I mentioned that there is a European
satellite that is designed to measure winds in the Earth's atmosphere.
Its launch has been delayed by high winds at the launch site. I found
that hilarious.
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Lucky it doesn't track flatulence.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (Evws/)

422 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (I2dne)

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And, spot on, BTW. Except: you forgot one salient point. You described the crime, but not the victims with standing: MF Global investors (who all lost millions), and CME traders, who also lost millions.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (UiRxW)

423 Shit ... Hey Miley.

With all you got goin' on ... surprised you're here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (fiGNd)

Everyone needs a bit of escape, right?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (txw6d)

424 the baby pies are good too, Anna.
i have freezed, then baked until bubbly.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (Tm+wy)

425 Everyone needs a bit of escape, right?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (txw6d)

Ain't that the truth.

*wink*

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (fiGNd)

426 Of course YouTube has to bombard you with BREAKING. stories about Manafort convictions.Fuck off.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (mCMQ5)

427 Everyone needs a bit of escape, right?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (txw6d)

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I think you misspelled "bourbon," Miley.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (UiRxW)

428 Yes, Scogg. Kipling wrote about that.
---
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (vDqXW)

429 I think you misspelled "bourbon," Miley.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (UiRxW)

I think I ran out of bourbon, YD.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (txw6d)

430 The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (vDqXW)

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One of the English language's masterworks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (UiRxW)

431 Hell, it's 4:20 somewhere, or will be soon enough.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (txw6d)

432 Fourth Turnings are the time of revolution, and we're about 2/3 of the way through a 4th Turning.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (XMhQP)

433 Miley, when all is settled, I will offer you a long weekend in Texas with plenty of food and drink and space.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (Xpw10)

434 🚀 SPACE FORCE!!!

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (bML9A)

435 I never understood that Copybook poem.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (XMhQP)

436 Yes, Scogg. Kipling wrote about that.
---
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (vDqXW)

The last full-time job I had ... I put that poem on my office door.

Not a single one of those fuckers understood it. Doctorates, Masters Degrees, Ivy League ... mattered not.

It's one of the best pieces of Western Literature ever written.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (fiGNd)

437 I would love a long weekend in Texas with plenty of food and drink and space, Ben Had. And ammo. I think shooting would make me feel good, and it's been way too long.
Sure wish I could see y'all in October, but I have some serious business that will take precedence once this situation reaches a plateau. Life-changing business.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (txw6d)

438 I never understood that Copybook poem.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (XMhQP)

You are shitting me. Are you serious ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (fiGNd)

439 I think I ran out of bourbon, YD.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (txw6d)

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Look - there's an outfit from Lawrenceburg, KY that ships high-test stuff nationwide, even to a retail outlet near you. Don't get caught short-handed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (UiRxW)

440
Interesting read thus far. I'm gonna stand with Grammie Winger and say the exceptional country will prevail, just as it has through similar situations, in no small part because of it's extraordinary people.

You've all seen examples of them, they are still here among us.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (S/hVx)

441 Look - there's an outfit from Lawrenceburg, KY that
ships high-test stuff nationwide, even to a retail outlet near you.
Don't get caught short-handed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (UiRxW)
You're right, I must hie to a liquor outlet at the first possible opportunity.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (txw6d)

442 Begriffsschrift, a Formula Language, Modeled Upon That of Arithmetic, for Pure Thought

by Gottlob Frege.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (vDqXW)

443 No expiration date, Dear Lady.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (Xpw10)

444 Thank you, Ben Had!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (txw6d)

445 It's one of the best pieces of Western Literature ever written.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (fiGNd)
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Absolutely. I was astounded that I paid so little attention to Kipling.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (vDqXW)

446 Imran Awan got 3 months of supervised released. Judge liked his anti Trump rant so much, she waved the fine he had been given.

We're hosed.....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (Enq6K)

447 I've mentioned before that I work in the media, in a job where I field letters from angry readers, both left and right. For whatever reason -- probably because of that godawful coordinated nationwide editorial whining about Trump calling us names -- the lefties have worked themselves into a fury this week. I've been swamped with Trump-hating letters.

Allow me to illuminate the thinking that currently motivates the left: They are absolutely, positively convinced Trump is Hitler 2.0. Yeah, they say that about every Republican, but this time they really, really, really believe it. They are 100 percent convinced they are living in a nascent totalitarian state, and that prison camps are just around the corner.

And they are quite open about the fact that they regard Republicans as fully complicit in this. I have read more than one letter the past week from lefties who state very clearly that supporting Trump renders a person less worthy of moral concern, if not transforming them into an enemy. Honestly, I think the only reason we aren't in a full-blown civil war yet is that lefties still feel icky about guns. If this were the America of 1918, where comfort with firearms was universal, the shooting would have already started.

If you want my opinion on who's responsible for us reaching this state: I'd place the blame on responsible liberals who refused to build a firewall to their left to keep out the crazies, and the conservatives who weren't forceful enough in demanding they do so.

Here's why: Every outraged lefty I encounter -- every single one -- is worked up about Trump because, essentially, he's "mean." They go on at great length about his supposed offenses, but at the end of the day, that's what it boils down to: He ridicules and insults his opponents and uses crude, demeaning language.

Now you know and I know that us righties have been putting up with this crap from the left for decades -- heck, the reason we love Trump is because he's the first guy who's willing to give it to the left as good as he gets. But for the left, it's a completely new experience. They've never had someone on the right turn their own tactics back on them, so they lack any sense of scale. When you are accustomed to dealing with polite, proper cucks who simply mumble an apology and roll over and play dead if you scream RAAAAACIST loud enough, any sign of sharp defiance assumes enormous significance. It feels like the other side has broken some unspoken but absolutely fundamental contract -- and if they've broken THAT contract, why wouldn't they break EVERY contract?

Though they wouldn't phrase it this way, in the minds of many lefties, there is, or was, an unwritten amendment to the Constitution that says "conservatives have to play by different rules; conservatives aren't allowed to be mean." And so when Trump violates this unwritten amendment, emotionally, it feels to them as if he's violating the written amendments, and they feel like it's only a matter of time -- days or weeks, probably -- until he simply declares the First Amendment null and void or something.

The solution would have been for both sides to make clear at some earlier date that there wasn't actually a secret amendment to the Constitution that applied only to conservatives, and that when conservatives responded tit-for-tat to liberal abuse, it was healthy, if heated, debate, and not the End of Democracy. That would have given the left an incentive to behave, which in turn wouldn't have given them the false confidence that led to their being blindsided by Trump.

But that's not what happened. And now the left is in what I can only describe as a pre-civil war state. They have, in their own minds, arrived at a point where they think it's morally acceptable for SOMEONE ELSE to attack and even murder conservatives -- not themselves, of course, but some other righteous leftist, like those antifa guys. All they require now is the last push to get to a place where they'd be willing to pull the trigger themselves.

So there's nothing to do but sit back and wait for the spark.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (R1mDg)

448 295 So they just did a panning crowd shot at the WV rally and it is strikes me every time that Trump gets more people than a mid-level rock concert (it would be fuller with a top-level rock concert, but that's what it would take).

Is this unusual in our history? I can't remember politicians ever crowds like this, and can't fathom it in a midterm year. I don't know whether to be pleased or distressed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (I2dne)

I was interested in politics as a 12 year old in 1968, and ever since, first voted in '76, and after thinking of this, the only 2 I can think of were Bobby Kennedy in his final few months for both being JFK's brother on the rebound and standing up for the anti-war movement of 1968, and the Black Hezooz because voting for him washed the sin of racism from white-guilted minds.

But nothing to compare to the solid 2 years of Trump campaign rallies. Nothing else is close, even the JEF in 2008. It was more just an event to be seen at, not an emotional revival the likes of a Billy Graham concert likes Trump creates.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (UsCnO)

449 They have, in their own minds, arrived at a point where they think it's morally acceptable for SOMEONE ELSE to attack and even murder conservatives

Meh ... makes perfect sense.

Still people here that think it's great strategy for somebody else to take a bike-like to the head and not react.

Same ol' Same ol'.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (fiGNd)

450 By the way, that law that the DOJ won't enforce, 18 U.S. Code 241 is the one that contains the part that makes it a federal felony to go in disguise on the highway and deprive someone of their Constitutional rights. In my complaint to the DOJ Inspector General I point that out. Everyone of those Antifa clowns earned a 10 year Federal Prison sentence for being part of that conspiracy.
Can you understand why I am so angry at the US Attorneys for their 148 year history of not enforcing that law against people who conspire to violate 1st and 2nd amendment rights? Bastards - the coming civil war is directly their fault.

Posted by: An Observation at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (RuuTb)

451 How does Anti Fa not meet any of several anti KKK laws and anti terrorism laws?
To my understanding the US Attorneys have a lot of discretion in their own jurisdiction as to who they indict?
Can't one US Attorney appointed by Boosh or DJT figure it out and start prosecuting some of these jokers?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (j4US8)

452 449 They have, in their own minds, arrived at a point where they think it's morally acceptable for SOMEONE ELSE to attack and even murder conservatives

Meh ... makes perfect sense.

Still people here that think it's great strategy for somebody else to take a bike-like to the head and not react.

Same ol' Same ol'.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (fiGNd)

You make a good point, Scogg. If one is going to a demonstration where conservatives are going to be attacked by Antifa blackshirts with masks, one should plan on rumbling. Good old fashioned beat downs with fists and sticks and bats.

Instead, our side (except for Based StickMan and a few bikers from time to time) stand there and take the bonks over the head with bike locks.

Kind of embarrassing, and that will probably change soon as the heat is turned up by the Commie side.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (UsCnO)

453 (420) Bleeeeeeeep.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (RuIsu)

454 So the killer of Mollie was 24, illegally here for 4-7 yrs. One of Obamas Dreamers? Thanks
BO.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (yJ1e6)

455 This is, among other things, a failure of governance. This is why we have the FBI and the NSA. They're supposed to be infiltrating these violent groups, gathering data, getting convictions. I mean, even ignoring state governments. Sure, you expect New York to let these people run wild with a wink and a nod, but what about Alabama, or Idaho?

We have a Republican president and a Republican Congress. If that still isn't enough to get federal law enforcement involved when leftist gangs are chasing normal people from the streets, things have already gone past the tipping point.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (h2Bdk)

456 Is this where I buy remote detonated explosive bags of dicks to throw at our enemies? Or had this not a thing....yet?

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (sFofr)

457 447---Posted by: Ex-liberal at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (R1mDg)
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Very well said.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (0jtPF)

458 Posted by: Ex-liberal at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (R1mDg)
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Thanks. Good read.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (vDqXW)

459 Note this only happens where the government has infringed 2A rights for citizens.
I carry everywhere I can legally carry and almost never go to places I cannot.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (xUc0d)

460 You have to choose between Chile and Venezuela. Sorry.

Hey, at least there will be free helicopter rides for the kids.

Posted by: Mentus at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (PRxea)

461 I thought the prick deserved it for being a Bernie supporter ergo a violent anti-Trump activist. I laughed my ass off. Hopefully he learned a lesson because I can guarantee his abusers didn't.

Posted by: Victoria at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (k4uwn)

462 @447:

What an amazing, brilliant comment, chilling but true.

"Honestly, I think the only reason we aren't in a full-blown civil war yet is that lefties still feel icky about guns. If this were the America of 1918, where comfort with firearms was universal, the shooting would have already started. "

You are one hundred percent correct. As their Antifa shock troops get bolder and the police even more complicit in the violence, initially a few run-of-the-mill liberals will try some violence themselves and then a few more and then guns will become lefty hip. The spark will be when the Right shoot back. As Ace wrote, THAT'S out of bounds. I wish it would happen after I'm in the ground but it is accelerating exponentially and probably not far off.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (0VQh3)

463 It seems that the reflexive shut-off valve of thought extends even to (Anti)Fa. Yglesias doesn't seem to take any stock of *what that says* about how controlled and conscientious Fa is.

This is why it will come down to blows. The left has a reflexive mind-shut-off pressure valve. I thought it was mainly around reflecting on themselves--but now it appears that it can wrap around any part of the left.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (vDqXW)

464 By this point I don't give a hairy rat's if any Dim or commie gets bloodied. They undoubtedly deserved it. But, how do we back the antifa sh!theads to back off?

Posted by: Anna Mac at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (rj4Yf)

465 We should spray paint them pink before... you know.

Don't end up a pink pancake.

Posted by: Mentus at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (PRxea)

466 F'doo, f'doo, f'doo...

Posted by: Brian Griffin at August 21, 2018 10:13 PM (PRxea)

467 It's a game of chicken, for real.

Let them see you tear out the steering wheel before the contest starts.

Posted by: Mentus at August 21, 2018 10:23 PM (PRxea)

468 I remember being in a college bar back in the early 80's. An English major,or some such, came up to a black football player and asked him what he would do if someone called him a n****r. Like Alan Alda might have said on MASH at the time. He'd probably told his buddies, watch me call this guy a n****r without him being able to do a thing about it! The guy just looked at him for a second, and blasted him in the nose. He was all bloody and aghast! He was just asking a question, not saying it himself! The guy said, I'm just answering your question. You're welcome. Funny! Freedom of speech can have consequences.

Posted by: Nobody in particular at August 21, 2018 10:45 PM (8zK8n)

469 So, what would happen if somebodies decided to settle things down a bit by quelling the vigor of the media who are either pushing for--or apologizing for--the anti-right violence? What if somebody were to pin a note to Jim Acosta with a K-bar through the heart? What if the note said, "This stops now. It is far past time for propagandists and social media moguls who control the narrative to stop telling lies and start telling the truth about things. Keep up your lies, bias, and uncivil war against us and you will be next. We will not stop until you stop. You started it, but we will end it."

How many would it take?

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at August 21, 2018 11:02 PM (Uu7xZ)

470 38
The Cuomo brothers are trash.

and uncles and fathers, etc.

Posted by: SweetAndy at August 22, 2018 01:36 AM (Mo5Uy)

471 If the Stupid Jackass Party(Democrats)realy support this filthy Brownshirts then their are no better then these ANTIFA scum suckers and belong in jail

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at August 22, 2018 10:40 AM (FLiOE)

472 My only quibble : "At some point, the shooting will begin..."

It has already begun. The Hodgkinson shooting claimed 4 victims.

It would have wiped out a significant portion of the Republican House if Hodgkinson had been a somewhat competent shooter.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at August 22, 2018 10:45 AM (4DuI9)

473 "We could not, say, emphasize that the lesbian girl who was maced in the face by Antifa for the crime of wearing a red MAGA hat was a Trump supporter, because we know that that, in the left's mind, makes her a valid Target of Opportunity."

IIRC, and assuming we're thinking of the same incident, she wasn't wearing a MAGA hat but rather one that said 'Make Bitcoin Great Again.'

Posted by: aelfheld at August 22, 2018 12:20 PM (IxDhF)

474 Great point and well said!

In this objection we accept the premise that it's ok to beat us as second class citizens.

Posted by: Shiggz at August 22, 2018 03:29 PM (keoqc)

475 Seems like some time soon that the left is going to have their "Fort Sumter moment". In which like the American civil war, they do something violent that starts a real shooting free for all that the police can't stop. Woe unto the left if that day comes.

Posted by: John at August 23, 2018 02:02 PM (lJYve)

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