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Former Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty to Campaign Finance Violations;
Claims He Paid Off Mistresses at Trump's "Direction" with "Purpose of Influencing Election"
Strange way to describe what would be seen in other contexts as "paying off a potential or actual blackmailer."
US President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen has pleaded guilty in a Manhattan court to violating campaign finance laws. He said he did so at the direction of "the candidate" and that he acted for the "purpose of influencing election". Mr Cohen's admission was related to hush money paid to Mr Trump's alleged mistresses. The 51-year-old admitted eight counts, including tax and bank fraud in a plea deal with prosecutors. In the court on Tuesday he said that he had been directed by "a candidate for federal office" to break federal election laws.In other news, Hillary Clinton deliberately concealed the purpose of her Fusion GPS payments as run-of-the-mill "legal services" payments to Perkins-Coie and hardly a word about that has been mentioned in the media, let alone by any federal prosecutor or DOJ staffer. Apparently some violations of FEC laws are good and just, so long as you're a Democrat; then no one can say what your "intent" is. Speaking of intent, that's pretty important here. The reason Cohen claimed Trump did this with the "purpose of influencing the election" is 1, because that's what prosecutors wanted him to say for his deal and 2, candidates do not have to disclose non-campaign expenditures for everything. They don't have to disclose that they spent money to see a Broadway show, for example. Even if they were photographed there and that, somehow, wound up making the news and advancing their campaign. So this payment is only of any legal consequence if it was made with the primary intent of influencing the election. And not, say, avoiding embarrassment and marital strife. In Trump's case, he can say, and probably will say, "I didn't make that payment to advance my campaign, I made it because I felt that these women would try to cash in and talk about this, which would harm my relationship with my wife." Which, obviously, it would. In fact, the media has been making just this case, by breathlessly reporting that Melania wasn't staying at the White House and was deliberately avoiding appearing in public because she was upset by the betrayal. So: How do you establish his intent was actually to "influence the election" and not just "avoid a strain on my marriage"? One can say that both are in play, but you'd have to prove he had the primary intent of doing one rather than the other. Because there's no law against paying hush-money to someone who might want to damage your reputation. Now, maybe Cohen has tapes of Trump specifically tying this to his election campaign. But maybe we just have to take his word for it. And again, if this is now a Very Serious Offence: It's been known for a year that Hillary Clinton deliberately hid the purpose of her payments to Perkins Coie as "legal services" when in fact a big chunk of that money went for oppo research. Rather than simply omitting mention of them, she filed a deliberately false report for the purpose of disguising the nature of the payment. Why is Trump required to disclose the purpose of every nickel he spent in 2016 while Hillary Clinton is permitted to straight-up file false reports with the FEC without any criminal investigation whatsoever?
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (NWiLs)
You stupid idiots have screwed the pooch.
Posted by: Cato at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (PM8Em)
Posted by: wooga at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (tvzmd)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (LWYzG)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (iiixZ)
Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (4TJc6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (ptqGC)
You stupid idiots have screwed the pooch.
Posted by: Cato
What did I say that was wrong, Cuck?
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (PA9oZ)
Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (4TJc6)
Posted by: wooga at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (tvzmd)
Posted by: BadJohnnyCochranSock at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Cato the Front Hole at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Lavrenti Beria at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (Mouru)
Yeah ... though it's clear he meant this as anyone taking care of a possible problem would "influence an election", not in any silly Russian sort of thing. But the MFM is running with the "purpose of influencing election" as if Mueller's witch hunt has hit the jackpot.
Of course, in this context, everything someone in a campaign does is with the "purpose of influencing election". After all, they're trying to win the damn thing. Have to influence it to win it, generally.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (63i9Y)
So they just shriek. As usual.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (PA9oZ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (I16G8)
Nonetheless, he's done an outstanding job.
Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (xIfFB)
Basically Trump needs to go thermonuclear and nuke all of this shit from space.
What is going on is a anthitetical to justice as can be imagined.
Jeff Sessions is a Fucking disgrace.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (kT3/m)
Didn't Michele Bachman eat a Corn Dog with the intent of influencing the election?
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (g5KCb)
I mean, if we're concerned about campaign finance violations, this one seems a bit more serious that a few women getting paid to STFU...
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (W+vEI)
In this case these aren't even contributions, Trump paid the money himself.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (k1TUh)
Micheal did what Micheal wanted to do. All I wanted to do was not violate laws.
And that's the thing. See Nuremburg. You have an obligation as my attorney that if I say do something illegal and you go and do it, it's on you. You are the one to be advising me. No matter how much I plead with you to do something illegal.
But hey . .. walls are closing in and all that shit.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (q1VoB)
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)
The Jon Edwards precedent is in play here. He was charged in a case
where he directed his top campaign contributors to pay off his mistress,
during his campaign - and he was found innocent.
In this case these aren't even contributions, Trump paid the money himself.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (k1TUh)
But TRUMP!!!111!!!!
---- screaming beasts in the MFM
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (ptqGC)
This needs to be put above every courthouse in America.
Hey, at least it's better than "Work Makes Free"......
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (EoRCO)
So they just shriek. As usual.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (PA9oZ)
I remember back int he good ol' days ... in 2008, when Barky's campaign paid ACORN almost a million dollars in Ohio (after ACORN was already under serious investigation and charged with some voter fraud, I believe) and, mistakenly, labeled the payments as "lighting expenses". Yep. Barky's just lucky he wasn't running against anyone who knew or cared anything about campaign financing ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (63i9Y)
Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (4TJc6)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)
They're doing Jello shots on the Lido deck right now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: some rat in the swamp at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (LOq4H)
Hillary Clinton shanked Seth Rich to influence the election.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: ABCBSNBCNN at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (UsCnO)
Jeff Sessions is a Fucking disgrace.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (kT3/m)
Without mentioning names, I really want to hear the explanations from the Sessions defenders about why his instantaneous recusal will, in effect, lead to the reversal of the counterrevolution back to pre-1913 days.
And please show your work.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (G4W16)
Do you really think the media was gonna talk about it... The only reason they mentioned it at first is because they suspected a White farmer...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (O2RFr)
You can confess past crimes to your attorney and he has to keep his mouth shut, so how does this lawyer get away with revealing client communications?
Posted by: wooga at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (tvzmd)
Posted by: ABCBSNBCNN at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (UsCnO)
"Don't rub it in."
- - Les of Moonves
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (G4W16)
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (sFofr)
No. She doesn't have any money. She needs to keep in the fray so as to live that lifestyle she likes. You think she likes sitting at home watching Trump and drinking gin?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (q1VoB)
If the only thing Mueller has found is potential FEC violations it's a joke.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: rammajamma at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (xceTB)
Do you really think the media was gonna talk about it... The only reason they mentioned it at first is because they suspected a White farmer...
Posted by: It's me donna
...
yeah that was never going to be news.
They aren't bothering to hide it any more. They're All-In.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (PA9oZ)
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (HgMAr)
Because shutup.
Posted by: Democrats and the MFM (BIRM) at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (mpXpK)
I'll take "Things Jonah Goldberg didn't say after Bill Kristol came all over his face" for $500.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (NWiLs)
Beyond that, ace, as noted by others above, there's the wee little issue of what - $83M? - being diverted by Hillary's campaign, I believe in violation of law. There is at least one lawsuit ongoing about this, IIRC.
Then there's actually the *other* clearly improper thing about the Perkins-Coie laundered campaign $: payment to foreign entities for campaign activities. Big no-no. Steele. Probably others. Nope, not legal. Yep, absolutely already known to have happened. Furriners can volunteer info, time, etc., but cannot be paid.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (HgMAr)
That was Hop Sing.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (G4W16)
Manafort... big time tax issues
Trump... poking Playboy bunnies and tramps.
Russia? AOL.
Hmmmmmm
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (iiixZ)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (JUOKG)
I guess his next trial is supposed to include more connections to trump...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (O2RFr)
In Cohen's case, he simply taped his clients.
I hope Trump and maybe Hannity sues this asshole for malpractice.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (YbmG/)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)
A Lemon Lime Party!
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (iiixZ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (ptqGC)
That ain't Jello.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (q1VoB)
You stupid idiots have screwed the pooch.
Posted by: Cato at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (PM8Em)
Soros Troll Alert.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (g5KCb)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (2NqXo)
It's actually been illegal to be a Republican for almost 45 years.
They've only just got around to start prosecuting it.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (BfOXk)
...
That and the fact that Mewler 'colluded' to raid the home of the attorney of the subject of his investigation, in a blatant violation of law .
It's easy to joke that these people are powerless. But they are not.
The Constitution may not be completely dead, but Barack Obama spent 8 years beating it into a coma.
Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (8A18y)
This was never about Russia, it's just a political hit job and nobody is going to stop him from just dripping out bad news cycles by prosecuting everyone that Trump has ever met. To the point where Mueller can bulldoze into the President's own personal lawyer and seize everything, then leak it to the media.
Sessions and Trump apparently are okay with this because they just keep letting him do it.
Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (UfkIY)
Yeah I was wondering... Didn't think jello came in vanilla
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (O2RFr)
Pudding. FTW.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (G4W16)
Meanwhile, an illegal alien is in custody for the murder of the girl in Iowa and a 7.3 just hit off the coast of northeastern Venezuela.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (u8Nqb)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (mpXpK)
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I'm guessing Manafort will get a pardon when all is said and done. Cohen, not so much.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (I16G8)
Lanny Davis. Clinton fixer for decades.
Burn the entire government down, please.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (BfOXk)
Trump will be gone before Fall 2019. They play this game better than conservatives do because we tend to be do-nothing bed-wetters. They, on the other hand, live and breathe this stuff. We are so f'in naive.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (53n3X)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Eleanor: my spirit animal is Bill the Cat at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (QU+qf)
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (a0IVu)
When in doubt....whack 'em out.
Posted by: Zombie Carlo Gambino and Zombie Tony Accardo at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (rznWS)
Also, all this crap about Brennan losing his security clearance. As Rush pointed out today, Clapper advised Barry to clean house after his first coronation. Said there were entirely too many people with security clearances. I haven't heard how many Bush holdovers lost theirs.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: nurse ratched
_________
Sessions is on the case.
Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: hepcat at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (5b+Sr)
Posted by: Touchy Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (14qvS)
should do. I don't want to do anything illegal and asked if I could pay
with campaign funds.
Micheal did what Micheal wanted to do. All I wanted to do was not violate laws.
And
that's the thing. See Nuremburg. You have an obligation as my attorney
that if I say do something illegal and you go and do it, it's on you.
You are the one to be advising me. No matter how much I plead with you
to do something illegal.
But hey . .. walls are closing in and all that shit.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM
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Actually Trump is on tape with cohen saying he didn't want to pay cash and then the tape was mysteriously cut off.
They have nothing on Trump.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (sFofr)
No. She doesn't have any money. She needs to keep in the fray so as to live that lifestyle she likes. You think she likes sitting at home watching Trump and drinking gin?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (q1VoB)
There are ongoing investigations into the CGI and CF so the assets could be frozen or seized. It could both scared and broke as fuck.
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (G4W16)
++++
Somehow just don't feel like dippin' in the pudding today.
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (2sCft)
Uh., Never
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (G4W16)
++++
Somehow just don't feel like dippin' in the pudding today.
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (2sCft)
Yeah, I know.
I'd pee myself if the judge sentenced Manafort for time served.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (G4W16)
Gellerreport- muslim slymaster escapes jailtime
By
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_S._Chutkan
The entire Awan spy syndicate was let go.
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (lxZ71)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (58Au8)
You must not have gotten the message... Trump is now Stalin... Get with the program!
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (PA9oZ)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (d7Ww2)
There are multiple active investigations into CF.
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Bill Jello puddin Cosby at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Jeff Sessionszzz... at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (n/eZB)
There are multiple active investigations into CF.
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (sFofr)
They'll wind up in a ditch. With Vince Foster.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (G4W16)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (cCsPW)
First of all, Manafort's FARA stuff relates to Ukraine, years and years before Trump ran for president (so, again, no connection), but beyond that, as I understand it, Manafort was linked up with the pro-EU membership element in Kiev - i.e, the *archenemies* of Moscow in Ukraine.
Haven't bothered to dig into it, so might have it wrong, but that's my understanding.
And as I noted in last thread, actually prosecuting a FARA case like this is actually the biggest F U to the country and the non-corrupt Beltway from Mueller, to date. Such cases exist in their thousands, have never been prosecuted - so selectively prosecuting this one is outrageously punitive and political.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (QDnY+)
He may be out of prison, but he'll also be out of gainful employment.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (6eEQ+)
Yep, even without expertise in fed election law, can't see how these
sorts of payments can be proven to be one thing (illegal) and not the
other (common, completely legal).
....Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (QDnY+)
Because this is all a pretext for impeachment, not a trial in normal court. Nothing has to be proven for removal, just enough votes from the Senate.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (rnXGe)
basis for impeachment or, at the least, a 24 month anti-Trump news
cycle. Who cares about Hillary equivalency? She's not in office.
Trump will be gone before Fall 2019. They play this game better than
conservatives do because we tend to be do-nothing bed-wetters. They, on
the other hand, live and breathe this stuff. We are so f'in naive.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM
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I have $1,000 to get in on the "Trump will be out of office before fall of next year" action. What odds are you giving.?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (JUOKG)
Comey and Strzok BOTH said Flynn didn't lie when they interviewed him. Yet, he's awaiting sentencing FOR LYING TO THE FBI. (Sorry for shouting.)
The man has lost his house, and is sitting waiting to find out how long he'll be in prison.
Lesson: Never, ever agree to an interview with the FBI.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jeff Sessionszzz... at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (n/eZB)
+++++
Sorry Sleepy Jeff. We'll try to keep it down....
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (2sCft)
Selling his client down the river.
SAD !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (58Au
This cocksucker will never practice law again.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (u8Nqb)
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (53n3X)
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You haven't been paying attention to Trump as President, have you? He's not going anywhere.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (I16G8)
Or something.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (ye3s4)
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (a0IVu)
I'm hoping Manafort/Cohen are the trick by which we can go, "oh, such things are illegal...?" and go after them. Not 'investigate', but actually do something.
Posted by: t-bird at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (n/eZB)
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (sFofr)
And they will be completed 10 years after she croaks.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (mpXpK)
In this context the phrase is utterly meaningless.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (63i9Y)
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (2NqXo)
Selling his client down the river.
----
Apparently , a brilliant judge decided that Cohen was not Trump's attorney and therefore fair game.
Or he was his attorney and therefore Mewler could toss his underwear drawer.
Either way - Search Warrant Status : Granted
Sure am glad so many Hawaiian judges are on the case , looking out for us little guys.
Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (8A18y)
Mother. Fucker.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (UsCnO)
But he will not. Because of all the OTHER stuff he is doing. Like messing around with organizations involving washed up Smallville actresses.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (++G28)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (u8Nqb)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (ptqGC)
Or any law enforcement agents, without the presence of competent counsel. They are to be presumed to be lying, corrupt cocksuckers until proven otherwise.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)
A Lemon Lime Party!
Posted by: Steve Quayle
Did not use any teeth either!
Posted by: Don Lemon at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (tvzmd)
Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (Tm+wy)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
_______
I truly think it would be in Trump's interest to just fire Mueller and this be the main issue in 2018.
Whether Trump should be impeached.
It worked well for Bill Clinton, and they've got less on Trump.
Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (UfkIY)
Her, her husband, their associates, etal.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (Nt/TS)
Lesson: Never, ever agree to an interview with the FBI.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (ptqGC)
Or any law enforcement agents, without the presence of competent
counsel. They are to be presumed to be lying, corrupt cocksuckers until
proven otherwise.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (NWiLs)
Yup.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (xInes)
"Cohen's tale of paying off the stripper isn't Trump's problem. Whatever the hell else Cohen may tell Mueller now about Trump's shenanigans over the years, true or false, for a favorable sentencing recommendation is Trump's problem"
And you can ga-ron-tee that anything salacious will be "leaked" to the press. "Crossfire Hurricane" is quite a multi-layered operation.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (j4US8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (ptqGC)
This stuff gets so stupid that it is almost funny.
Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (6uV+4)
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (14URa)
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (2NqXo)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (yQpMk)
he says while shitting his pants
Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (/tuJf)
And Brian, there is no way in hell they get 67 votes in the Senate.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (u8Nqb)
You give Senate Republicans WAAAY too much credit.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Your sycophant press at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (q1VoB)
Well, she likes drinking gin. A lot.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (9BLnV)
Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (fA1SL)
So everyone on the planet forgot about the tapes that Cohen had with
Trump telling Cohen to pay the payment from a company account that was
not his campaign.
This stuff gets so stupid that it is almost funny.
Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (6uV+4)
And that's evidence that it had nothing to do with the campaign but to protect his family.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (rnXGe)
Where is PDT doing a rally tonight? It should be a good one.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (ptqGC)
West Virginia
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Zombie Ibragim Todashev at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (rznWS)
Evil never takes a holiday.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (lxZ71)
Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Fed up at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (nzKWW)
I don't think the dial goes past 11.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (oYNmA)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yzxic)
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (a0IVu)
Thanks!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (ptqGC)
No one told me I was supposed to be wetting the bed.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (10vO4)
--
Venezuela, it appears. Is now a failed state, and everyone who lives there is trying to get out of the country.
Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (I9Sw7)
He has a party that is almost HALF FILLED WITH TRAITORS in his own fucking party. And Sessions is blackmailed or insane.
2018 is everything. GOP picks up enough TRUMP GOP'ers, read, non fucking cucks, and you will see the battleship fully operational. If not, then expect more of Mueller gone wild for another fucking 2 years.
Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (q+HNC)
If this crap is what is used to remove him from office, there will be blood.
Clinton was a rapist, the Senate knew it, they let him stay in office. If perfectly legal confidentiality agreements are now impeachable, there will be blood.
Rivers of it.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (pKB/v)
Because we're at war. And the people who enforce the rules like this are all on the other side of us, and of Trump.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (bcbK8)
The problem is that now these goatfelchers have tasted blood and are
only going to amp things up in their quest to subvert the election and
overthrow the President.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (NWiLs)
Yep, this is all we're going to hear about until November. All day every day. Every candidate will have to go on record with a position.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (rnXGe)
Comey and Strzok BOTH said Flynn didn't lie when they interviewed him. Yet, he's awaiting sentencing FOR LYING TO THE FBI. (Sorry for shouting.)
The man has lost his house, and is sitting waiting to find out how long he'll be in prison.
I really wish someone would do a GoFundMe for him...one of his friends or associates.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (Nt/TS)
Step 2 is the Blue Wave in the House. Or at least Blue enough with some #NeverTrumper leftovers to reach 218.
Step 3 is another two years of non-stop hair-on-fire nonsense to stall to 2020.
So the Communists today did get step #1, albeit a bit of a crooked alley, not an interstate.
Me? Just one day closer to the War the Commiecans are demanding.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (rnXGe)
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Yet you give them too much credit for having the balls to impeach a President of their own party, who is very popular. They would be voting themselves out of their jobs.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (HiLJ1)
Post script on Mollie Tibbetts:
https://tinyurl.com/y7mqwddq
Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yzxic)
Omg.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (P1AAi)
that Cohen had with Trump telling Cohen to pay the payment from a
company account that was not his campaign.
This stuff gets so stupid that it is almost funny.
Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM
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Yep just like I said above....the Trump tape abruptly cut off when Trump said to not pay in cash.
This is another huge nothingburger where the msm thinks they have got Trump this time. All they have to do is play the tape and find out there is no "there" there.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (JUOKG)
No it's not. Won't even be the biggest thing we hear by the end of next week.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (/tuJf)
This is a scandal all right. Mueller is the scandal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, sitting quietly in the corner at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (XlbwU)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (Z48ZB)
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (BfOXk)
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (2NqXo)
The poor, dear woman. She was broke when she left the White House with the silverware.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (eAMlh)
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (a0IVu)
Words are not deeds.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (DzFIB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (ptqGC)
Like me?
Posted by: zombie Ted Kennedy at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (UsCnO)
It's an attempt to make Trump seem like an uncool and libidinous old man who cheats on his wife and has to pay for sex. The other narrative they're pushing is that he's alone and deluded, abandoned by his former associates and soon by his wife. They're trying to make an example of anyone who stands by him or defends him in public, so that nobody will want to work for him in the future. That's all.
Getting a conviction right now is not important for them, preventing Trump from achieving too much is. Then they can also charge him with being all talk. And when they get back into power due to voter apathy they can take revenge at their own pace.
Hopefully Trump has some counter-measures planned. So far he has emerged victorious from these ambushes, but it'd be good to see some pushback.
Posted by: PG at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (iqCkn)
BINO has been setting his own hair on fire for a while now. there doesn't seem to be much that doesn't panic him.
Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (nFwvY)
Oh please. I don't panic, I've just seen this coming for months and I've been right the entire way. All of this was entirely predictable and so its what's coming.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (rnXGe)
It isn't. The usual suspects will caterwaul in hopes of convincing The Deplorables - especially the religious ones - of going to their fainting couches instead of the polls. The MFM et al. don't believe a word they themselves say, but they're praying (so to speak) The Other will believe the MFM et al's BS.
This mid-term is shaping up to be the most critical mid-term of my entire 29 years. Easily.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (VZV4A)
Posted by: Derptastic at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (DB16e)
who walks to cops to the body, except for michael cohen?
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (iiixZ)
Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (jDF8P)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (oYNmA)
As for Mueller, he never had any problems with lies before, it was just a matter of how they could help him.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (KN1xl)
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (2NqXo)
Yes. People are still dying when investigating her.
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: some rat in the swamp at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (LOq4H)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (P1AAi)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (rnXGe)
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Yet you give them too much credit for having the balls to impeach a President of their own party, who is very popular. They would be voting themselves out of their jobs.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (I16G
We don't care, if the Establishment lives on, it will be a win.
Posted by: Kamikaze Republicans at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (DzFIB)
* fistbump & Tudor's Politician thru USB *
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (dUJdY)
Sessions will get right on the Deep State corruption after he cracks the illegal Ginseng distribution ring.
Stuff will mess you up man.
Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (oVJmc)
balls to impeach a President of their own party, who is very popular.
They would be voting themselves out of their jobs.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (I16G
You can't see several Senate Republicans voting to remove for "the good of the country", and to "get all this behind us" so we can "all just move on."?The script writes itself with those fucks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (lwiT4)
Can someone es'plain John McAfee to me?
https://tinyurl.com/yakkpehy
More to the point, is McCafee a 'Ron?
Is McCafee /ourguy?
Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (Zogyx)
Can he legally pay to be flown to a campaign stop if it's for the purposes of "influencing an election?"
Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Your sycophant press at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (O2RFr)
I'm a little teapot, short and stoutHere is my handle, here is my spout
Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (p+zZ8)
...
"Lawfare" has evidently been escalated to "thermonuclear lawfare".
Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (8A18y)
https://tinyurl.com/y7mqwddq
Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yzxic)
Oh wow. Kinda took the wind outta my sails.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (Nt/TS)
are you ready for some football?
Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (Tm+wy)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (P1AAi)
You had to go there. It's not just some Russian bankers tied to Putin or corrupt senior FBI agents.
It's STORMY EFFING DANIELS, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Confuscious at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (JJ9bx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (ptqGC)"
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Let's remember this is California, laws are what they say they are.
Ten million illegals no problem, one Republican politician is one too many.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (KN1xl)
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (lwiT4)
Yep; I do. Every morning and during the day.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (AllCR)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (lxZ71)
are you ready for some football?
Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (Tm+wy)
Yowzaa!
Posted by: zombie Howard Cosell at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (MAstk)
Trump SHOULD order Mueller to investigate the payments by Hillary Clinton to Perkins Coie.
Watch heads explode.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (wFDuq)
You can't see several Senate Republicans voting to remove for "the good of the country", and to "get all this behind us" so we can "all just move on."?The script writes itself with those fucks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (rnXGe)
No I can't.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (10vO4)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (ABjxW)
Reminds me of the young Scandie woman who was gang-raped to death by members of the 7th Century Death Cult. She was a big fan of open borders.
Very sad.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)
Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (Zogyx)
McAfee is a lunatic con artist. Probably a murderer too.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (rnXGe)
For what?
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (dUJdY)
Being Republicans in a competitive District.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (DzFIB)
It isn't. The usual suspects will caterwaul in hopes of convincing The Deplorables - especially the religious ones - of going to their fainting couches instead of the polls. The MFM et al. don't believe a word they themselves say, but they're praying (so to speak) The Other will believe the MFM et al's BS.
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This. This is just Scandal #369 that is SURE to bring down Trump, but is forgotten in a week, just in time for Scandal #370, which is SURE to bring down Trump, but is forgotten in a week, just in time for...
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (Z48ZB)
And as Drider said - wasn't there a tape of Trump directing that payments come out of his own funds? Don't see how any part of this adds up to a serious FEC charge, whatever Cohen "swears" to.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (/tuJf)
Nobody's going to tell me that this along with Cohen wasn't coordinated by the DOJ to happen today to maximize the pain on the GOP. Manafort was just a gift they only dreamed of.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (ye3s4)
....
Over 60k in funds that he already paid back from his personal funds.
Troll on, dunce.
Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (8A18y)
Yeah, Ms. Tibbett's tweet didn't age well.
Reminds me of the young Scandie woman who was gang-raped to death by
members of the 7th Century Death Cult. She was a big fan of open
borders.
Very sad.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)
Tell us about it.
Two bikers across kill-me-stan
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (q1VoB)
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Thus why Cohen Hired Lyin Lanny Davis the Clinton Fixer, It is The Clintons who are in trouble because of Cohen, Cohen was a DemoCRAZY until PDT was elected & then he switched
Posted by: Nothing is Going to Happen at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (y3aQB)
And these people are going to vote up or down on Trump paying off his (consensual) whore?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Inogame at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (jTGTB)
This is a whole load of Nothing.
Relax, everyone.
We got a good man in the White House and he's no pussy. Er, front hole.
Mr President's got this.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (LWYzG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (G4W16)
Venezuela, it appears. Is now a failed state, and everyone who lives there is trying to get out of the country.
Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (I9Sw7)
I wonder how many of them voted for socialism.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (sdi6R)
Reminds me of the young Scandie woman who was gang-raped to death by members of the 7th Century Death Cult. She was a big fan of open borders.
Very sad.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)
Or the there is no evil getting ran over and stabbed in turkshitholestan!
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (JFO2v)
- - Les of Moonves
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM
Rubbing it in? That's my moonves.
Frank Costanza
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (2NqXo)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (rnXGe)
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Sure, I see "several". What I don't see are anywhere close to 67 total in the Senate suicidal enough to kill their careers. Granted, Dems would probably not get voted out.
Use the fire extinguisher on the hair, please.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (qi1wI)
Posted by: sOME mORON at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (ICWiF)
Posted by: Snoreregard at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (Zf9Ej)
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (sFofr)
In this context the phrase is utterly meaningless."
Yep. "Waking up" is an attempt to influence the election, essential as it is to campaigning.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:33 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (ptqGC)
I did not just read that.
Well, I still feel awful for her.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 21, 2018 06:33 PM (MX7xj)
Posted by: John McCain from the great beyond at August 21, 2018 06:33 PM (8A18y)
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (QDnY+)
....
Over 60k in funds that he already paid back from his personal funds.
Troll on, dunce.
Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (8A18y)
*looks around* Last time I checked, I'm not a troll.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (JFO2v)
closer to 60-65%. Its retarded to even entertain that Trump will be
impeached. He is objectively doing well and is popular with Americans.
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM
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Yep and there is a tape out there with Trump saying to do it right and not pay cash and then the tape cuts off.
Everyone needs to step away from the fainting couches.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (JUOKG)
Reminds me of the young Scandie woman who was gang-raped to death by members of the 7th Century Death Cult. She was a big fan of open borders.
Very sad.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)
Sounds like Darwin Award material.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (sdi6R)
June 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
July 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
August 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
September 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
October 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
November 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
December 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
January 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
Febuary 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
March 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
April 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
May 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
June 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
July 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
August 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
https://youtu.be/rLEchPZm318
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnAwa)
I remember reading reading in those long ago "enlightened" times that everyone you slept with was to be referred to as simply a sex partner.
Those were the days my friend
Thought they'd never end
And the came a president who must be deposed and his voters swapped for the imported illegal ones who have no compunction in voting illegally or killing innocent girls out for a jog.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (KN1xl)
They absolutely, positively HATE US ALL.
Except for the Soros Troll at post #2. They pay him good money to piss us off. And with the $18 Billion Soros gave to his organizations, they are hiring.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (sFofr)
A) The Left hates Trump outright
B) They want payback for Bill's impeachment
C) They think even if he's not removed it will cripple the agenda and his re-election bid
D) They are once again wildly misreading the mood of the American people.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (G4W16)
Issa is retiring and they tried to pin something on Nunes but it didn't stick... Funny how two Republican Congressmen in the last couple weeks have been charged with crimes... Almost like it was planned to help the Dems take those seats.. Almost
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, sitting quietly in the corner at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (XlbwU)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (NWiLs)
That was going to happen regardless of Cohen or Manafort or whatever.
They probably sit around in circles punching each other in the 'nads to fire themselves up.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (4ErVI)
Ever wonder why the never made a modern movie about Audie Murphy?
Or Alvin York?
I mean, it's probably better they didn't since they'd ruin it and make it all about moral equivocation and no homos in the service.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (LWYzG)
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)
Plus, they'd cast Markie Mark as Audie Murphy, I'd bet.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (LWYzG)
*looks around* Last time I checked, I'm not a troll.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
...
Relax! I responded to your comment.
I was quoting the troll who followed you "Ha".
Who was summarily executed.
Posted by: John McCain from the great beyond at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (8A18y)
Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (QE8X6)
*looks around* Last time I checked, I'm not a troll.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (ptqGC)
There are one or two monosyllabic trolls trolling around.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (G4W16)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (fA1SL)
No one on the left ever seems to see the inside of a jail cell.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (8A18y)
Plus, they'd cast Markie Mark as Audie Murphy, I'd bet.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (LWYzG)
Markie Post.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (G4W16)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnXGe)
I agree with you. I have no idea how it's going to go.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (sdi6R)
Where is that somnambulant whore of an AG?
Cracking down on the Ginseng herbal pipelines. Important stuff.
Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (r9UYA)
I have a feeling you are right.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: American at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (o9TX1)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (LWYzG)
Posted by: Regular joe at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (7PllL)
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (JFO2v)
Odd that this is happening so close to the election, it's almost as though something else is going on...
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (GAVZe)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnXGe)
I agree with you. I have no idea how it's going to go. Me either... We really need to get Kavanaugh through... And Have Darth Vader Ginsburg "retire." We're gonna need the SC
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (c056A)
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (VZV4A)
Posted by: BuckIV at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (PZ2ib)
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (JFO2v)
June 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
July 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
August 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
September 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
October 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
November 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
December 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
January 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
Febuary 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
March 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
April 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
May 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
June 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
July 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
August 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
https://youtu.be/rLEchPZm318
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnAwa)
That video is FUNNY!
Aggh!! THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN!!!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (UsCnO)
See? Justice!!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)
WTF?!?!
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (Z48ZB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (G4W16)
They are clueless in this area.
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (VZV4A)
Out of bourbon. Will vodka do?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: BuckIV at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (PZ2ib)
Hell is coming to breakfast
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (G4W16)
Voters are gonna be PISSED.
Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (q177U)
Aside from going hard on immigration, the blatant two-faced bullshit of this whole ridiculousness is the best mid-term weapon the GOP has.
Take it to the bank.
Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (q+HNC)
Posted by: Snoreregard at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (Zf9Ej)
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (VZV4A)
Hi Skandi. Want some glogg?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM
Of course Jane. I can rough it with the best of them!
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (VZV4A)
really need to get Kavanaugh through... And Have Darth Vader Ginsburg
"retire." We're gonna need
Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (r9UYA)
===
Expeditiously Retire.
"Ex-pire"
Oops did I say that out loud?
Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (8A18y)
See? Justice!!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)
Huh. And I wasn't going to drink this week.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (ptqGC)
No. You're thinking of 'Hell Comes to Frog-town.'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (TTgpD)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (G4W16)
Oh this sounds promising!
We need a pitch. Markie Post as Audrea Murphy, war hero. In a bikini with an army of babes. Whip cream guns, etc.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (G4W16)
Answer me these riddles three and thou shalt passeth over.
Riddle the first!
Who speaketh like a dandy while also lacking in mental faculty?
Posted by: Some Bridge Troll at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (Zogyx)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (LWYzG)
Posted by: Snoreregard at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (Zf9Ej)
Bet his front hole is sore!
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (c056A)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM
Does it have bourbon in it? If so yes, or as I said to Jane, vodka will do. Just not ValuRite, I have standards you know.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (VZV4A)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (lwiT4)
Yep; I do. Every morning and during the day.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (AllCR)
^^^^
This. Not meaning to be overly dramatic, but the forces of Darkness really are aligned against PDJT and his cabinet. God bless him, them and their families. God bless the USA.
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (JUOKG)
I understand him to be crazy as an outhouse rat. So, in a word, no. Run, do not walk, away from this guy.
Seriously, he is a strange bird.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (LWYzG)
To play devil's advocate, how is Sessions recusal relevant to either of these prosecutions? Neither of them have anything to do with Russia. Manafort and Cohen were on the Democrat's enemy's list form the start and they would've been targeted by a prosecutor somewhere even if Mueller never existed.
In fact, I suspect the only reason for having Mueller's name associated with these was to allow his team to take credit for something so as to keep the left's hopes afloat.
Oddly enough after all this time absolutely nothing has come of any of the Russia stuff that Sessionzzzz has supposedly been so snoozily incompetent about. To the contrary, every breathless Russia story from the Democrats has instantly blown up in their faces and repeatedly made them look like desperate crazy people. Weird.
Posted by: GalosGann at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (Dl9Eq)
Judge who let Awan walk, Jamaica born Obama plant in to the injustice system
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (lxZ71)
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (qul7b)
forces of Darkness really are aligned against PDJT and his cabinet. God
bless him, them and their families. God bless the USA.
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (2sCft)
I literally pray for the man, his family, his administration, and this country every single day. We're living in interesting times.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (lxZ71)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (2sCft)
Furthermore, I suspect a large number politicians on both sides of the aisles have fixers and under the table payments for "indiscretions". All payments could be considered attempts to "influence the election". Just look at how much taxpayer money was spent on sexual harassment claims against Congress critters. They are spending public money to "influence an election". HRH and the spending on Bill Clinton's bimbo eruptions will also be revived.
It it possible that Trump actually is the SMOD that brings down the temple on all of it. Just imagine the fun if all of the NSA intercepts, security clearance questionnaires, and IRS tax records for all people holding public office, all registered lobbyists and lawyers, and the media were released in a searchable google like database.
After all the Chinese have a large portion of it via the leak during the Obama years regarding security clearance questionnaires on their self reported behavior. Why can't we have a peek?
Posted by: whig at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (jWFXC)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (LWYzG)
++++
Okay, but VINTAGE Markie Post. Yes!
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 21, 2018 06:33 PM
At least she didn't have to pedal her ass halfway around the world to get butchered. We import killers, too, so citizens can be butchered right where they live and work. Think of the convenience!
What? Too soon?
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (2NqXo)
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM
Relax bud. Worst case scenario and I mean worst case the Trump campaign gets hit with a campaign finance violation. Oh I am sure that CNN etc. etc. etc. etc. will hump each others legs for days over impeachment. Paying off a couple of whooress is not impeachable. At worst it's a campaign finance hit.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (VZV4A)
Markie Post is, like, 60, now.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (LWYzG)
Quit killing my dreams.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (4ErVI)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_S._Chutkan
Judge who let Awan walk, Jamaica born Obama plant in to the injustice system
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (lxZ71)
That mincing pantywaist Obama did more to damage this nation that any president in modern times. Not a hot enough place in hell for that prancing, preening, ponce.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (VZV4A)
Daughter in law found my bottle of Everclear. Threw it away. "By accident", she said.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (TTgpD)
Awan given time served plus supervised blah blah blah - in case that is, in reality, potentially one of the biggest congressional criminal scandals - with a hostile foreign intel element - in our history.
And that's it. Done. Public has never even heard of it (um, no press, duh).
And the vile, stupid Warner of VA is out asserting that a punitive, very dicey (note immunity given to underling, Gates, whose admitted crimes EXCEEDED those of the target, his boss) tax case from nearly a decade ago PROVES Mueller's op is "not a witch hunt". WTF?
Not a serious country.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (IIQAD)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (2sCft)
The left is already calling for Kavanaugh's hearings to be cancelled due to this latest breaking "news"......
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (JUOKG)
lol
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (10vO4)
Trump will be gone before Fall 2019. They play this game better than conservatives do because we tend to be do-nothing bed-wetters. They, on the other hand, live and breathe this stuff. We are so f'in naive.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (53n3X)
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Trump will go down fighting which is what our side needed, a fighter, not another sissified conservative whose idea of politics is being a "good moral loser".
In defeat he will become a heroic martyr, or he will win and be a victor, but nothing will be the same again. Too much has been seen and said to go back to the conservatism of yesteryear. Those Never Trumpers who still believe that if Trump is taken out via political legal warfare it will vindicate their approach will be seriously mistaken. Instead it will be the opposite - they will be despised as traitors in a coming conflict resembling the breakdown of the Roman Republic.
Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (lxZ71)
What's up, Skip?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (2sCft)
Golly!
Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (Zogyx)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM
And I assume you told her to replace it then.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (VZV4A)
The office of special prosecutor is who did the Manafort trial. Was that a serious question??
No Mueller, no Manafort trial. Simple as that. I still have yet to hear exactly how a trial over taxes and bank shit from years before Trump announced has ANYTHING to do with "muh Russia".
Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (q+HNC)
Thank God President Trump is not a decent man.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (iGktu)
And the Deep State will want to keep that underwater.
That's what swamp critters do, they bite you in the ass drag you into deep waterdrown you and eat you.
We came We saw and He died
It's very similar to those bedtime stories we heard as children about the monster in the closet.
Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (Y274z)
I think it more dire. Trump is a proxy. The forces don't hate Trump; they hate us. Before Trump became the voice of the people, all these forces loved Trump. He entertained them, financed some of them, and rubbed shoulders with them in an epicenter of American power. Alas, he's now their gorilla in the midst because he sided with forgotten and abused Middle America.
But their ire is against us through Trump. It is as simple as that.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (Zogyx)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM
++++
Grammie, your DIL is a jerk.
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (2sCft)
Yea, hating white people and being for open borders means I'm a little less outraged. I still feel bad she died, and feel bad for her family, but my outrage level decreased. It was at eleventy. If you are killed bcz of policIes you advocated for, and hate people who are trying to protect you, I can't get as outraged. I still think what happened was awful. She did not deserve it. At the same time, she believed in these policies. Which makes me wonder if her family did too. I would think that'd make the pain even worse.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (Nt/TS)
Jessica comes in and is qualified even though she swan on Berkeley team in 90s.
David walks in and is qualified even though he was stripper for 11 years and take 2 lbs a hormones each day.
Bethany comes in, female, 123 ibs, XY chromosomes, rejected.
So FDA kills 100k over women each year!
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (VZV4A)
Oh. There's a thought.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Rose at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (qHeFI)
What about all the other such payoffs before Trump was a candidate.
Even if true, wasn't Cohen the guy responsible to report it as campaign contributions?
Poor Mikey. Instead of pardons, he'll be getting hardons.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (IeDO8)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (TTgpD)
Relax bud. Worst case scenario and I mean worst case the Trump campaign gets hit with a campaign finance violation. Oh I am sure that CNN etc. etc. etc. etc. will hump each others legs for days over impeachment. Paying off a couple of whooress is not impeachable. At worst it's a campaign finance hit.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (VZV4A)
Not sure why democrats want to bring campaign finance front and center just before an election. Because that sword cuts both ways
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (10vO4)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (lwiT4)"
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This is the essence of these attacks and to make it extremely unpleasant for anyone who accepts a position in his administration.
It's a slow motion civil war.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (KN1xl)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (lxZ71)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (u8Nqb)
You have more confidence than me.
Posted by: clutch at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (2sCft)
TBH - I don't think she knew what it was. She was cleaning my upper shelves. I had it hidden next to one of my shooty-things and I think she got addle-pated by the whole scenario.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (bUjCl)
He's a lawyer.
Of course he is a pathological liar!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM
Relax bud. Worst case scenario and I mean worst case the Trump campaign gets hit with a campaign finance violation. Oh I am sure that CNN etc. etc. etc. etc. will hump each others legs for days over impeachment. Paying off a couple of whooress is not impeachable. At worst it's a campaign finance hit.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (VZV4A)
agree with Minnfidel, because there is always the shooting option. It's in the Constitution, you know. Refreshing the tree of liberty stuff.
Just don't run out of ammo or beef jerky.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (lxZ71)
That is heartbreaking. So sorry. Prayers up.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:50 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:50 PM (lxZ71)
Posted by: Cato at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (PM8Em)
Wow.
Why is the Green Hornet's sidekick so weird?
Posted by: naturalfake at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (z7pBf)
Posted by: creeper at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (LA9ih)
++++
Grammie, I am unsure of the dialect you are speaking, but I'll take your word for your DIL's good intentions, or lack of bad intentions. Are shooty-things discussed on the Sunday afternoon Gun Thread?
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (lxZ71)
I'm so sorry Skip.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (lwiT4)
Trump needs to release all hes got ASAP
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (O2RFr)"
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I would say that is his insurance policy.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (KN1xl)
Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (Y274z)
Be there shortly. I'll bring a Caesar salad and garlic bread.
Posted by: creeper at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (LA9ih)
Yes, right along with the canoe lessons.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM
They don't care, they will flail at anything anti Trump. I mean these people pick ax out his freaking star in Hollywood. They are that unhinged. Let the left talk impeachment, they've had that wet dream for 2 plus years. I also had a dream that I banged the shit out of Markie Post and Heather Thomas at the same time as a guest on the "Fall Guy". Yea, didn't happen. As I said, at worst it's a campaign finance violation.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (VZV4A)
Just don't run out of ammo or beef jerky.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (UsCnO)
lock and load. While we are armed to the teeth, the libtards are still trying to figure out which bathroom to use
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (d7Ww2)
So Cohen is claiming that he wrote a check to Daniels directly out of the MAGA hat proceeds account?
Posted by: Chris W at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (yUo+H)
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (lxZ71)
Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (MuTTO)
If Caesar didn't meekly assent to the demands of the Senate, how can anyone be retarded enough to think Trump will surrender to this limp-wristed Congress?
The masks are off, the state is rogue, and it needs to be purged.
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (3Tn95)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (sFofr)
I give a shit about Manafort to the extent that he'd be a free man if he hadn't worked for DJT. That should bother everyone here.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (y7DUB)
You tell me this country isn't screwed up.
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (c056A)
finance front and center just before an election. Because that sword
cuts both ways
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (10vO4)
Cuts both ways, you say? LOLOL!!!!
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (sFofr)
I beg to differ sir. A great many people care.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (UsCnO)
What's wrong with Turkey Jerky?
Posted by: That Guy... at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (DzFIB)
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (TTgpD)
The protected; Dems and their criminal enterprise allies, and the unprotected; not Leftists.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (hyuyC)
So another day ending in y.
What else does Mueller have because if today was the day he fired his big guns against Trump that ain't gonna get it done.
He's been after Manafort for years, wanted to prosecute him when he was running the FBI. The same FBI that had a FISA warrant against Manafort for the 2 years before he worked for Trump and then restarted right after the election.
The same Manafort that worked for Oleg Deripaska who you should become aware of if you aren't already.
Cohen might be able to tie Trump to a FEC violation. Obama was fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for millions of dollars of FEC violations. I'd like to see how Congress justifies an impeachment.
Mueller is winding down his investigation. This is not going to amount to any real damage against Trump. His supporters never thought he was Jesus and his detractors have nothing to really go after him with.
I'm pretty sure Cohen isn't a Russian spy.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (/tuJf)
I give a shit about Manafort to the extent that he'd be a free man if he hadn't worked for DJT. That should bother everyone here.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (y7DUB)
Trump will pardon him after his second trial is over
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (10vO4)
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (ptqGC)
You tell me this country isn't screwed up.
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (c056A)
The ruling elite absolutely hate the native white population, but at best they are a parasite on American blood.
This country will be healthy once these demons are burning in hell.
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (3Tn95)
Posted by: BuckIV at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (PZ2ib)
Hell is coming to breakfast
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (JFO2v)
Buzzards gotta eat too.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (HgMAr)
Hillary will never be president.
The NASDAC, the NYSE, the DOW; all finished up.
Donald Trump will win re-election in 2020.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (ylXIx)
So Cohen is claiming that he wrote a check to Daniels directly out of the MAGA hat proceeds account?
Actually, I think the claim is that paying someone off with your own money to keep a scandal from damaging your campaign is a 'campaign expenditure.'
Which means that basically any personal expense could be claimed to be a 'campaign expenditure,' whether it uses campaign money or not.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (oVJmc)
Nancy Leong: I'm troubled by one response I'm seeing to the allegations about Asia Argento, which is, "she made a payment to him, so she must have done something wrong." Any lawyer will confirm that paying money to settle a dispute doesn't necessarily indicate wrongdoing. 1/
Kurt Schlicter had replied: So that's the rule again?
And then POOF!
Leong continues in multiple tweets to explain that a payoff does not meant guilt listing reasons and details why.
After all, legal fees can add up.
After all, it can give her unwanted bad publicity.
Deleted fast. No need to wonder why.
Nancy Leong is Professor of Law at the University of Denver Sturm College of Law, where she teaches and studies Civil Rights, Constitutional Law, and Criminal Procedure.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (uPlWr)
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (2sCft)
Well, in my defense, I had forgotten that I'd put that particular firearm in that exact spot. Then when I went to hide the Everclear - so as not to get it mixed up with the regular liquor - I put it in that same spot because it was so good for hiding. Then I forgot about the both of them.
What can you do.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (lwiT4)
I kid you not. They think this is it.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM (9lgjh)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM (lxZ71)
You tell me this country isn't screwed up.
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM
Yes it's sad, but let them hump each other. Neither of these cases have anything to do with Russia or collusion. Worst case scenario it's a FEC violation depending on how the whores were paid and the campaign get's fined. Oh it won't stop them from trying but. Meh. Fuck em.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM (VZV4A)
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (dUJdY)
Could be. But I read she was a psych major, so odds are she was an SJW.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (Y274z)
See? Justice!!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)
WTF?!?!
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (Z48ZB)
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People, how could this be a surprise to anyone reading here?
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (KN1xl)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Burger Chef at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (RuIsu)
I blame us.
Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (w7KSn)
I kid you not. They think this is it.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM
The higher the highs, the lower the lows. The letdown when they realize they were deceived again will put them in the pits of despair.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (2NqXo)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (lxZ71)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (10vO4)
I'm not sure Manafort won't get this reversed on appeal but either way he's ok, just out a lot of money for legal fees. I still maintain that this is a warning to anyone thinking of helping an outsider candidate in the future.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (iiixZ)
Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (Y274z)
Stack that bastard Cohen on top of this and it's just too much.
Hugs to all who are hurting.
creep out
Posted by: creeper at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (LA9ih)
Trump needs to release all hes got ASAP
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (O2RFr)"
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I would say that is his insurance policy.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (KN1xl)
Maximum advantage to release the redacted stuff in unredacted form the last week of September, up to the first two weeks of October. No later because of so much early voting.
It would kill the Commies and #Nevers timing perfectly and bigly.
And run as a campaign ad, Mollie Tibbet's and Kate Steinle's pictures a thousand times, split screen with leading Dems saying "we want open borders" and "eliminate ICE".
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (MTjB1)
So many reasons not to have social media. However, knowing what she believed brought my blood pressure down. My grief for her and her family still there, and my disgust at her killer. But that is all.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (Nt/TS)
high-giving each other like 8 year olds and saying "the Trump nightmare
is almost over", yada yada.
The same people who will probably defend Rapin' Bill and Teddy to this day.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (bUjCl)
I blame us.
Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (w7KSn)
***************
You're right, they should be locked in asylum for their own protection. Padded cells for some.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (ylXIx)
Yes, but Mollie wanted open borders and hated white people, so maybe not real effective.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (Nt/TS)
This country will be healthy once these demons are burning in hell.
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (3Tn95)
Truth.
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (sFofr)
Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (lxZ71)
https://tinyurl.com/y7mqwddq
Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yzxic)
...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (uPlWr)
Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (ylXIx)
Posted by: creeper at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (LA9ih)
Yep.
And the Cohen language is so vague its pretty suspicious. If Cohen is claiming his client instructed him to break the law, and he didn't advise his client of the illegality, that's on him, not his client.
But it sounds like what he did wasn't even illegal.
And who is he claiming intended to influence the election? Him or Trump?
They'll use this to break the a/c privilege by claiming crime/fraud but it looks very weak-- and bizarre.
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (Z48ZB)
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (VZV4A)
See? Justice!!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)
WTF?!?!
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (Z48ZB)
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People, how could this be a surprise to anyone reading here?
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (KN1xl)
How will all the Sleepy Jeff shills paper over this botch job by their somnambulant hero. He's sitting on top of the biggest nest of vipers in the country and hasn't done a fucking thing to send them packing.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (y7DUB)
What can you do."
You could lose it in the same lake/pond/estuary where all the other lost firearms are. At least you'd have a fighting chance of recovery given enough motivation.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (ylXIx)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (IIQAD)
Closest we ever got, as far as my research shows, is a bit of aureole in a Harry Langdon photo shoot.
https://bit.ly/2PsIiUL
Ya takes what yas can gets.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (IIQAD)
We're in the process of taking this one back.
These inbred interpreters can't last.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (ylXIx)
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People out there in voterland are taking note.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (KN1xl)
well, attempted fucking anyway.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (NmR1a)
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Everyone should. It's like that saying first they came for Manafort and I did nothing ...
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:10 PM (KN1xl)
well, attempted fucking anyway.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (NmR1a)
************
Been in trouble before
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (ylXIx)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (y7DUB)
I agree.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (Nt/TS)
I have to say Trump is insanely squeaky clean for a real estate
developer. 50 years in business and all they can find is Diet Coke and a
saggy porn star.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (+dsLj)
Real estate developer in NYC at that. Even the mob didn't want to fuck with him.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (rnXGe)
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People out there in voterland are taking note.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (KN1xl)
They'll lie to everyone now and say they're voting donk...might even do so to keep the prosecutors and Antifa types from destroying them and their families. I am certainly considering registering as a donk to avoid problems
Posted by: Snoreregard at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (Zf9Ej)
I'm not saying the charges against them aren't legit or whatever, I just don't care. I know I should, but I don't.
If they're guilty, great, lock them up. Whatever.
Posted by: JJTownsend1977 at August 21, 2018 07:16 PM (PsdJu)
Yes, your contention is that only Mueller's team would ever have gone after Manafort. I get that, but I disagree and I think it's silly.
Posted by: GalosGann at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (Dl9Eq)
Posted by: A Healthy Breakfast at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Stainy Geeblus at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (36a3F)
You don't screw with billionaires like Trump. Period.
Darwin on exhibit here.
Posted by: S at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (zgX3V)
The Jon Edwards precedent is in play here. He was charged in a case
where he directed his top campaign contributors to pay off his mistress,
during his campaign - and he was found innocent.
In this case these aren't even contributions, Trump paid the money himself.
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As Rush says, this whole thing is a nothingburger.
Posted by: S at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (zgX3V)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (JUOKG)
I'm just venting. I want to go out and stomp on Democrat front holes, but since I can't, I'll just fume over my own frustration and impotency.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (uCrjJ)
During a campaign, holding a press conference is an attempt to
"influence the election". Kissing babies is an attempt to "influence
the election". Everything a campaign does is an attempt to "influence
the election".
In this context the phrase is utterly meaningless.
It's called "spin."
Posted by: S at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (zgX3V)
If you got plastic surgery, bought new suits, a new car and said these were to help me get elected they are still not directly related to campaigning hence use your own money. So spending money to keep someone quiet is ALSO not a campaign expenditure. Trump had to use personal money which he did.
Even if Trump knew this money would possibly help him get elected it STILL is not campaign related.
Posted by: bobbymike at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (gJ4xp)
Posted by: bk in tx at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (fhqAu)
By the time the dust settles, there will be vengeance.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (GoLZO)
Tell you what, tho: I am impressed - no, MIGHTY impressed with the way you and the rest of Ace's morons go about the PROCESS of denial.
Cohen pled guilty to conspiracy - CRIMINAL conspiracy - with "Individual-1" as his co-conspirator.
"Individual-1" is Trump. So, this felony charge is, by definition, one in which Cohen has UNDER OATH stipulated he committed in criminal conspiracy with the POTUS.
This is new. This has never happened before in the entire history of this country.
But of course the AoSHQ is, this means nothing and nothing will come of it.
Riiiiiiiiiiggggggttttttt.
Posted by: the Mueller you rode in on at August 22, 2018 01:52 AM (x+yK4)
This isn't Cohen. This is Lani Davis talking. I can imagine the coaching session.
Posted by: RobertM at August 22, 2018 05:58 AM (Gjakl)
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