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Donald Trump: I Might Just Shut Down the Government if I Don't Get Funding for the Wall, an End to Catch and Release, an End to Sanctuary Cities, and a Change to Merit-Based Immigration



The obvious first take is that this is dangerous, people who shut down the government always lose in the court of public opinion, etc.

However, this is an interesting little dynamic. Republicans always lose to Democrats on shutdowns.

But what about a Republican president versus a Republican Congress? While Trump names "Democrats" here, it is in fact weak-sister Republicans in the House and especially the Senate who resist these measures while conning their voters into believing they actually support them.

Maybe it's time for this, and see if congressional Republicans can be bullied by the threat of a shutdown by a Republican President just like they always allow themselves to be bullied by the same threat when offered by Democrats.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:38 PM




Comments

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1 Hmm

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 30, 2018 05:37 PM (hYJ19)

2 Rd

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 30, 2018 05:37 PM (hYJ19)

3 skeptical this can work

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 30, 2018 05:37 PM (ckk1c)

4 Not st!

Posted by: Follow the money at July 30, 2018 05:37 PM (VWE5i)

5 Seems empty here...

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 30, 2018 05:38 PM (hYJ19)

6



SURRENDER DOROTHY

Posted by: Wicked witch of the swamp at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (IqV8l)

7 The obvious first take is that this is dangerous, people who shut down
the government always lose in the court of public opinion, etc.

If Trump has listened to everyone who told him not to do dangerous things, he wouldn't be president. That doesn't mean he shouldn't do crazy stuff, but I suspect he's gamed this out and thinks he can win. He might well be right. This seems like an opportune time to ride the wave he started.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (T6t7i)

8 Thom Tillis hardest hit.

Posted by: golfman at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (If3tB)

9 I just found The List for men to follow. I'll post it after 100 comments.

*glares*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (ptqGC)

10 >>But what about a Republican president versus a Republican Congress?

Bold strategy Cotton.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (/tuJf)

11 I think shutting down the government for immigration reform might play out better - since all polls show most Americans of both persuasions want stricter immigration regulations.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (a0IVu)

12 I called the corgis.

Posted by: JAS at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (3HNOQ)

13 Trump won because of his stance on illegal immigration. If Republicans in Congress have any hope of being reelected they have to support him, otherwise their voters will stay home in November.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (UBzPO)

14 should

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (T6t7i)

15 Trump isn't afraid to fight on all fronts. He'll make tactical retreats if necessary.

November will swing on turnout, and Immigration will be his best issue to motivate the base. Schumer can't let Trump get the Wall, and Trump will crucify him for it

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (n+6mJ)

16 Shut it down. Save money.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (5jVnA)

17 I dunno know. I wouldn't bet against PDT. Let's see where this goes.

Posted by: Tuna at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (jm1YL)

18 SHUT'EM DOWN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB4D-GbQ9A4

Posted by: PUBLIC ENEMY at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (+bAaV)

19 The obvious first take is that this is dangerous, people who shut down the government always lose in the court of public opinion, etc.

That gets repeated a lot without any evidence, whatsoever. It's like the GOP who were scared that impeaching was a deeath sentence for them and how terrible it was when they impeached Clinton ... they lost a seat or two in the Senate the next midterm - the horror! - and had majorities in the Senate, the House and held the Presidency in the next election.

Trump knows what the real story is with "government shutdowns".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (ZVU3Y)

20 This would be such a huge win, I hope he does it and doesn't back down.
Republicans used lose on this because they are asparagus-legged s#itweasels. PDT is not a Republican , he is himself.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (yN/cP)

21 Shut. It. Down. Sell off the real estate and then fire 80 percent of them. (military excluded)

Posted by: Under Fire at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (r9UYA)

22 It will be interesting how this all hashes out.

I wager DJT will do ok.

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (hYJ19)

23 9
I just found The List for men to follow. I'll post it after 100 comments.

*glares*

Uh-oh, it's the rarely seen, and very dangerous, cross-thread grudge display.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (T6t7i)

24 Hm. What stage of the primaries are we in?

Is everyone locked in for the general election ballot already?

Posted by: rosignol at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (sjCQ+)

25 This would play well to his base, I think.... we love his fightyness...

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (DpEis)

26 I think country is sick of immigration BS and Trump knows this -- propitious timing for the threat.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (H8QX8)

27 Prepare to see Trump Derangement Syndrome on steroids. And that's just from the Never Trumpers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (ptqGC)

28 I like this, but it's bluster.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (+fPHo)

29 Trump seems to think this excellently polling issue could help win the midterms. But the really Top Men in the Congress think otherwise. We will see who is right.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee is King! at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (Ogr1j)

30 Build it, and they will come ... to vote.

yeah, he should shut it down, keep it shut down, for the win. Let the Repubs argue for more heroin, more illegals, more crime.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (bT8Z4)

31 I trust the instincts of President Trump. What does he have to loose on this issue.His base is for enforcing the border and building the wall. Nobody will Turn on him because of this issue. The gope needs his base. The dims already hate him. Win win so much winning.

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable. at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (0OmEj)

32 Shut it down!

Lock her up!

Shut it down!

Lock her up!

Shut her up!

Lock it down!

Posted by: JAS at July 30, 2018 05:41 PM (3HNOQ)

33 Have we ever lost because of a shut down?

I know that's what the media say. But they're a bunch of cocksucking liars.

A lot of these presumptions lead to GOPe doing cucky things because zomg we can't do that!

Is there actual proof that we "lost" because of a government shut down?

And when have we ever had an honest to God actual shut down? I'm talking where checks aren't going out and the military stands down?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 30, 2018 05:42 PM (4ErVI)

34 He ought to throw in birthright citizenship, as in end-of.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 30, 2018 05:42 PM (+fPHo)

35 9 I just found The List for men to follow. I'll post it after 100 comments.

*glares*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (ptqGC)


There, there now.....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 05:42 PM (DpEis)

36 We keep seeing that border security polls in the 70s for approval. Force the pols to match their voters, including Dems.

Posted by: clutch at July 30, 2018 05:42 PM (kiSdp)

37 Trump, I and most Americans against illegal aliens will kick ass on this issue even with the media.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 05:42 PM (pw+jk)

38 Given that every single "government shutdown" in my lifetime has been both:
1) Not a shutdown
2) A nothingburger
I say go for it.

The absurdity of the "shutdown" is so great that my mother added it to the "list of words that must not be uttered in her home" (yes, the list exists - and this phrase is on it because the government doesn't actually shut down). Vital stuff keeps going, the rabble get furloughed. It might be interesting to see one play out over, say, six months. I suspect things would be okay.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 30, 2018 05:42 PM (I2dne)

39 Ace: "Maybe it's time for this, and see if congressional Republicans can be bullied by the threat of a shutdown by a Republican President just like they always allow themselves to be bullied by the same threat when offered by Democrats."

I'm guessing this will finally be the hill for them to die on.

And if they usurp Trump, I'll help Trump with their wish. Want to see a Blue Wave? Watch it level Capitol Hill if the GOPe blocks Trump and the Deplorables.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 30, 2018 05:43 PM (6eEQ+)

40 Trump isn't afraid to fight on all fronts. He'll make tactical retreats if necessary.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (n+6mJ)

Art of the Deal.

Start yuuuge.

Posted by: golfman at July 30, 2018 05:43 PM (If3tB)

41 Should it down, see if I vcare

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2018 05:43 PM (pHfeF)

42 Further, despite the best efforts of the Donks, the Mean Girl Media and Hollywood, the American people have a firm anti-illegal immigration opinion.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 30, 2018 05:43 PM (+y/Ru)

43 For the people!

Posted by: DNC at July 30, 2018 05:43 PM (ctuyM)

44 Shut. It. Down. Sell off the real estate and then fire 80 percent of them. (military excluded)



Posted by: Under Fire at July 30, 2018 05:40 PM (r9UYA)


Sure. Let's only cut the military by 60%.


And if you wear a uniform, you spend AT LEAST 25% of your time on combat training/action.


Everybody. No exceptions.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM (9chmE)

45 Woman in red on The Five says shutdown is too complicated.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM (IqV8l)

46 Republicans only ever APPEAR to be bullied by Dems. It's controlled opposition. That's just acting.

They actually oppose Trump.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM (AzW6q)

47 Trump says this... some will come out howling... usual suspects.. plus a few New Ones. See how this works??

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM (DpEis)

48 I also think this a ploy against red state Dem's where the wall i popular. Trump needs their votes and won't think twice about putting severe political pressure on them.

OT:

You need to go see Ron DeSantis' new campaign add: Hilarious.

Posted by: WisRich at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM (G0vdT)

49 It's never a shutdown...everyone always gets paid and also get's a paid vacation. Shut down my ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM (Lg2h/)

50 willowed

My daughter is getting married in the Spring. She actually asked me for some tips for dealing with men. Ok then:
======
learn how to freakin cook.

My wife nearly killed us both in the first month when she tried to cook salmon on a George foreman grill.

Posted by: simplemind at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM (8+mrB)

51 I honestly believe that if President MegaloDon Trump ordered the arrest of, and had tried and imprisoned, Governors, Mayors, Sheriffs, and other public officials involved with these sanctuary states and cities -- he'd be reelected in a landslide.

Posted by: ShainS at July 30, 2018 05:45 PM (XogA+)

52 I just found The List for men to follow. I'll post it after 100 comments.

*glares*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM

* peeks out from bunker *

How far from The Look is that glare?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2018 05:45 PM (ctuyM)

53 Woman in red on The Five says shutdown is too complicated.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
=======
Gutfeld should tell her to calm down.

Posted by: simplemind at July 30, 2018 05:45 PM (8+mrB)

54 Know what I hate about a shutdown?

All those effing govt. get a free paid vacation.

New policy Trump should announce.

"Come to work and you will get paid, eventually. Stay home and you will not get paid, unless you use vacation pay."

Posted by: JAS at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (3HNOQ)

55 Shut down my ass


Eeeek, no!

Posted by: Shep Smith at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (T6t7i)

56 "Come to work and you will get paid, eventually. Stay home and you will not get paid, unless you use vacation pay."





Posted by: JAS at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (3HNOQ)
THIS.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (a0IVu)

57 42 Further, despite the best efforts of the Donks, the Mean Girl Media and Hollywood, the American people have a firm anti-illegal immigration opinion.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 30, 2018 05:43 PM (+y/Ru)


That's RACIST!!

*rape*

*rape*

*grope*

*grope*

Posted by: Democrats at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (5jVnA)

58 give me the wall!

Posted by: concrete girl at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (Hp0xH)

59 *glares*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (ptqGC)

Don't worry your pretty little head about it ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (xDiTg)

60 If he really wants my support on this, he needs to say that there will be no post facto pay for gubmint employees once the shutdown is over.

I'm sick of paying for extra vacations for 'non-essential' gubmint workers.

And that would really bring the heat to the threat. For the first time ever.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (0ogQG)

61 Recent events show that the Wall can reduce the number of Illegals getting on US soil to claim 14th Amendment rights. So more important than ever

Good fences make good neighbors, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2018 05:47 PM (n+6mJ)

62 Salmon on a George Foreman grill?

Use plenty of butter!

Crispy skin, no?

Posted by: JAS at July 30, 2018 05:47 PM (3HNOQ)

63 Republicans only ever APPEAR to be bullied by Dems. It's controlled opposition. That's just acting.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM

Unpossible!

Next you're gonna tell us professional wrestling isn't totes real.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2018 05:47 PM (ctuyM)

64 The obvious first take is that this is dangerous, people who shut down
the government always lose in the court of public opinion, etc.

If Trump has listened to everyone who told him not to do dangerous things, he wouldn't be president. That doesn't mean he shouldn't do crazy stuff, but I suspect he's gamed this out and thinks he can win. He might well be right. This seems like an opportune time to ride the wave he started.
Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (T6t7i)

--------------

I'm old enough to remember that the Rs took the entire Congress over after the last "shutdown".

Hold the line, PDT. Shut. It. All. The. Way. Down.

No back pay, no 2 week paid vacations.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 30, 2018 05:47 PM (I16G8)

65 Cuck my wife, please.

Posted by: Congressional GOPe at July 30, 2018 05:47 PM (wjHbC)

66 54 Know what I hate about a shutdown?

All those effing govt. get a free paid vacation.

New policy Trump should announce.

"Come to work and you will get paid, eventually. Stay home and you will not get paid, unless you use vacation pay."

Posted by: JAS at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM (3HNOQ)

A new policy that says you keep your government job if you bring in the freshly cut head of another government employee.

Does that make sense? It sounded like it did in my head.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 30, 2018 05:47 PM (4ErVI)

67 >>Woman in red on The Five says shutdown is too complicated.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

=======

Gutfeld should tell her to calm down.

Posted by: simplemind

I thought he was referring to Gutfeld.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (r9UYA)

68 Hey now 'ron and 'ettes, according to Trump's DHS the term is now "illegal aliens."

I love this man... in a staunch hetero sexual manner.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (pw+jk)

69 46
Republicans only ever APPEAR to be bullied by Dems. It's controlled opposition. That's just acting.



They actually oppose Trump.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 05:44 PM (AzW6q)

Yeah but they still want to be re-elected in November. They won't if they don't back Trump on immigration.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (UBzPO)

70 if economy continues to do well, no one, NO ONE will care if the goberment is shut down. so, gofor it , PDJT !

Posted by: runner at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (D1bJZ)

71 Don't worry your pretty little head about it ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 30, 2018 05:46 PM

Scogg, it's been an honor knowing you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (ctuyM)

72 I keep sending WH emails through their website - please build the wall.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (a0IVu)

73 Trump won because of his stance on illegal immigration.

-
I suspect that among the commies' goals in seeking open borders is to get his supporters to abandon him by getting him to break his promise on illegal immigration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (+y/Ru)

74 Shut it down! The important parts keep working, just the bs crap stops.

Posted by: Archer at July 30, 2018 05:49 PM (gmo/4)

75 This threat is a solid ploy.

Scenario 1: The GOPe in Congress pre-emptively surrenders (shocking, right?) just on Trump's threat.

Scenario 2: The Dems' hair bursts into flames and they run around shrieking like lunatics (shocking, right?) just on Trump's threat. This galvanizes Trump's base, and amps GOTV efforts for the midterm.

Either of these makes threatening a shutdown a good gamble. It's called 'preparing the field' before a battle.

Posted by: Ersatz at July 30, 2018 05:49 PM (44PTs)

76 While I'm waiting on Congress, can I also wish for a pony?

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 30, 2018 05:49 PM (MDSzN)

77 The government shuts down every Friday afternoon until Monday morning and we are better for it.

Posted by: Cheri at July 30, 2018 05:49 PM (oiNtH)

78 Scogg, it's been an honor knowing you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (ctuyM)

He could've pointed and laughed.

Quick, someone say something about tiny AtC is!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 30, 2018 05:49 PM (4ErVI)

79 A new policy that says you keep your government job if you bring in the freshly cut head of another government employee.

Does that make sense? It sounded like it did in my head.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 30, 2018 05:47 PM (4ErVI)
++++++++++++
I don't that there are enough government barbers to do all the jobs of government. If the haircut doesn't have to be *good* then it could work.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 30, 2018 05:49 PM (I2dne)

80 "Keep you panties dry, sugar-tits."

Posted by: JAS at July 30, 2018 05:49 PM (3HNOQ)

81 Scogg, it's been an honor knowing you.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (ctuyM)

Pissy Jane will always be my Favorite Jane.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (xDiTg)

82 I'm all for it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (mpXpK)

83 I suspect that among the commies' goals in seeking
open borders is to get his supporters to abandon him by getting him to
break his promise on illegal immigration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (+y/Ru)


Very possible. He'll lose me too if he does. I suspect he's aware of that though.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (UBzPO)

84 Even IF a shutdown comes to pass, 20 bucks says all the memorials/parks/monuments will stay open.

And another 20 says Trump will announce all those things are staying open while the shutdown continues.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (jWe5r)

85 That's why Donald deserves two scoops of ice cream.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (qdG+G)

86 I was curious how he would handle the inevitable budget fight following his threat to never sign anything as shit-tastic as the CR again. Interesting tactic.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (NL6wI)

87 So Tapper called in the cavalry (Obama) 90 days out from November. That means they're scared by the real polling.

Posted by: Steve Earle Song Ideas at July 30, 2018 05:51 PM (PvCxa)

88 I suspect that among the commies' goals in seeking
open borders is to get his supporters to abandon him by getting him to
break his promise on illegal immigration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 30, 2018 05:48 PM (+y/Ru)

=====
^^^^THIS^^^^
And the base knows he is trying but the donks and gopE is against him. They will reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 05:51 PM (pw+jk)

89 This might work to Trump's advantage either way. If the GOPussies balk and refuse to go along with him, they won't be blamed --and thus--the Democrats can't demagogue them for the midterms.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2018 05:51 PM (y8Foj)

90 85
That's why Donald deserves two scoops of ice cream.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (qdG+G)
I think the WH chefs have him on a diet. So its arugula and sorbet these days.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 30, 2018 05:51 PM (a0IVu)

91 Very possible. He'll lose me too if he does. I suspect he's aware of that though.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (UBzPO)

He'd have to cuck out in a really over the top way though.

I always knew GOPe was going to play games with this though so I don't blame Trump. I blame GOPe.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 30, 2018 05:51 PM (4ErVI)

92 It's not bullying if they really need to be truncheoned.

Posted by: DaveA at July 30, 2018 05:51 PM (FhXTo)

93 Love watching Trump play the Left like a violin....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 05:51 PM (DpEis)

94 I can't bear to read about immigration, because it's the fundamental issue, and we're still flubbing it. I can't say what I'd like to about judges and the sleazy grifters from Central America that the Democrats are hoping to use to cement their rule forever. Makes me so angry, I'd get a banning.

I'm just hopefully awaiting the day when I read that the wall has been built.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 30, 2018 05:51 PM (/qEW2)

95 Trump won't pull the prissy memorial shut down act that Obama did. Americans by and large don't like it when veterans are bullied while attempting to view a memorial.

Posted by: Cheri at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (oiNtH)

96 This is not a move against the GOPe, it's a move against red state Dem's. You can bitch and moan all you want about the GOPe, believe me it's will deserved but the bottom line is that they need 9-10 Dem votes in the Senate.

Kavanaugh & Wall funding just weeks before elections? Sweet jeebus.

Posted by: WisRich at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (G0vdT)

97 Trump will also have his own October Surpise in response to Russiagate and Mueller. Count on it

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (n+6mJ)

98 Even IF a shutdown comes to pass, 20 bucks says all the memorials/parks/monuments will stay open.

And another 20 says Trump will announce all those things are staying open while the shutdown continues.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (jWe5r)
++++++++
Maybe. They might pull out the stops this time and close down things people actually like in order to stick a needle into Trump. In a city here in CO (Colorado Springs, I think), they decided to suspend garbage collection during a budget/tax dispute. There are a ton of things they could have suspended and no one would care, but that didn't fit their objectives.
This time, in the absence of Official Opposition (there is only real opposition now), I think they'll pull out the real knives and attack things people care about.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (I2dne)

99 The obvious first take is that this is dangerous, people who shut down the government always lose in the court of public opinion, etc.

---


Calm down, Ace.

Posted by: Hands at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (EzdLW)

100 86
I was curious how he would handle the inevitable budget fight following
his threat to never sign anything as shit-tastic as the CR again.
Interesting tactic.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 30, 2018 05:50 PM (NL6wI)

The only thing about signing that CR that makes any sense was him setting up the Dems on immigration right before the election. His EO ending the family separations supports that theory. The Dems never expected him to do that and it kneecapped their only political ploy.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (UBzPO)

101 Scenario 2: The Dems' hair bursts into flames and they run around
shrieking like lunatics (shocking, right?) just on Trump's threat. This
galvanizes Trump's base, and amps GOTV efforts for the midterm.

You have to wonder, though, whether we're approaching an asymptote on the Dem crazy? I mean, if someone hasn't concluded they're bugf*** nuts by now, it's unlikely they will. Still, I suppose maintenance and reinforcement of the lesson is a good idea.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (T6t7i)

102 Kavanaugh Wall funding just weeks before elections? Sweet jeebus.

Posted by: WisRich at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (G0vdT)
Christmas in October for me.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (a0IVu)

103 Trump is just holding the Republicans to the deal they made in March. He signs that if they don't do him over in the next go around.

My money is on Trump for this.

You know, it's fascinating to watch what fuck you money means on the grandest possible stage. Being President is Trump's retirement community service work, not the be all and end all of his life. This is not the culmination of his entire life, this is what he did because he thought he could do good for the country. Legacy schmegacy.

Funny what a difference that makes.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 30, 2018 05:53 PM (dEQP3)

104 Anxiously waiting for the list...

Posted by: golfman at July 30, 2018 05:54 PM (If3tB)

105 Calm down, Ace.
Posted by: Hands at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (EzdLW)

Watching the birth of a meme is pretty cool.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 30, 2018 05:54 PM (xDiTg)

106 This is not a move against the GOPe, it's a move against red state Dem's.

I rate this as plausible.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 05:54 PM (T6t7i)

107 Cruz did not lose anything from the last "shut down"... go , Trump, go!

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at July 30, 2018 05:54 PM (FTXAT)

108 kelda roys, wisconsin's own occasional kotex. what a phucking freak.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 30, 2018 05:55 PM (KP5rU)

109 Trump won because of his stance on illegal immigration. If Republicans in Congress have any hope of being reelected they have to support him, otherwise their voters will stay home in November.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 30, 2018 05:39 PM (UBzPO)

Not if Trump tells them he NEEDS them to vote for the GOPussies.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2018 05:55 PM (y8Foj)

110 *GASP*

Posted by: Semen Bill Kristol at July 30, 2018 05:55 PM (O9JR8)

111 Trump always chooses the high ground in his battles with the Left... that's a general to follow....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (DpEis)

112 I suspect that among the commies' goals in seeking open borders is to
get his supporters to abandon him by getting him to break his promise on
illegal immigration.
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You're not wrong. It's the issue that won the primary for him. Backing off on it would be seen as a huge betrayal by his most hardcore supporters, who have ignored a lot of other crap in the hopes that he'll deliver on this.

Posted by: rosignol at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (sjCQ+)

113 Bully, bully.

Posted by: Teddy Roosevelt at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (yQpMk)

114 This really shows how pitiful the GOP-e really is. Here we have the House, Senate and the WH. And they still can't do their f'ing job.
I hope Trump holds their feet to the fire and calls out every one of them who fails to get in line. He's got nothing to lose (as AtC said in so many words above). This is shaping up to be quite a show. And I can't wait to watch.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (jxbfJ)

115 I have been a Bulldog my entire life. I was a Dawg fan before Herschel played there. I always will be a Bulldog.

However, WTAF is this crap with the Dean of the Journalism school?!?!??!?!!!?!?!?!?

F#$% You you spineless useless F%#ing pos C%$# sucker!!!

FU FU FU!!!!!

You useless MFer! FU!

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (gBoVY)

116 Dooooo eeeeeeeeet!!!

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (swEzU)

117 "They might pull out the stops this time and close down things people actually like in order to stick a needle into Trump."

Sure. If they're given the opportunity to do so. But unlike JEF - who ensured those things were shut down to make his point - Trump won't let it happen.


Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 30, 2018 05:57 PM (jWe5r)

118 I trust him on this. He wants the wall (genuinely), and needs to goose up turnout a little bit. Hits the red state dems. This is a good move.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 30, 2018 05:57 PM (fYi9j)

119 If Republicans in Congress have any hope of being reelected they have to
support him, otherwise their voters will stay home in November.

I just had a vision of Cleavon Little saying "back off, or the GOPe gets it!".

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 05:57 PM (T6t7i)

120 Ace is fine with being told to Calm His Tits.

Just don't use the word MOIST and you'll be OK.

Posted by: garrett at July 30, 2018 05:57 PM (+bAaV)

121 Funny what a difference that makes.



Your Grace is spot on, as always.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 05:57 PM (yQpMk)

122 Do it and tell the senators all their salaries are docked until the wall is funded (I can dream, can't I?)

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 30, 2018 05:58 PM (a0IVu)

123 Trump has already announce that he'll be campaigning "7 days a week" for Republican candidates this Fall....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2018 05:58 PM (y8Foj)

124 You have to wonder, though, whether we're approaching an asymptote on the Dem crazy? Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 05:52 PM (T6t7i)

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? I used to think that too.

But I'm beginning to believe there is no bottom to the insanity. Shrieking like lunatics is the only "play" they've got left. They're losing at the ballot box. They're losing in the media (because Trump doesn't give a damn). They losing on the merits (e.g. Occasional Cortex's inability to explain what she believes).

Screaming and invective (RACIST!) is all they've got left.

Posted by: Ersatz at July 30, 2018 05:58 PM (44PTs)

125 Trump has also said he's going all out to personally campaign in swing places. Add Kavanugh, a shutdown government and Trump's own anti-Russiagate October Surprise and it's going to be one hell of a Fall

Are you not entertained!

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (n+6mJ)

126 Ace is fine with being told to Calm His Tits.



Just don't use the word MOIST and you'll be OK.

Posted by: garrett at July 30, 2018 05:57 PM (+bAaV)

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Or "creamy"

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (pw+jk)

127 109Not if Trump tells them he NEEDS them to vote for the GOPussies.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2018 05:55 PM (y8Foj)

Why vote for the GOPussies? They are thinly veiled Dems. Vote them back in why? So it can be said a Rethugican won the district - only to find out the GOP cucksucker returns to the DIABLO ways?Is it better to pull a bandaid off slowly or just yank it off good and hard? Pull it off. If we are going to get a Dem regardless, lets at least thin the GOP-e herd, watch the Dems self immolate (because they will) and keep our focus on 2020. Hopefully with better candidates.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (jxbfJ)

128 Your Grace is spot on, as always.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 05:57 PM (yQpMk)

Ditto.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (xDiTg)

129 Government shut down means government employees get a free paid vacation. Government contractors get nothing.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (FTlwv)

130 115 I have been a Bulldog my entire life. I was a Dawg fan before Herschel played there. I always will be a Bulldog.

Try being a Nittany Lion, It's hell, I tell ya, pure hell.

Posted by: dr kill at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (Jj+59)

131 What are we going to do without a fully staffed and motivated FBI?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (r9UYA)

132 Going back a couple of threads, what are you willing to do to keep Notorious RBG on the bench?

https://bit.ly/2LBr9Kv

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (+y/Ru)

133 I suspect that among the commies' goals in seeking open borders is to
get his supporters to abandon him by getting him to break his promise on
illegal immigration.
--

You're not wrong. It's the issue that won the primary for him. Backing off on it would be seen as a huge betrayal by his most hardcore supporters, who have ignored a lot of other crap in the hopes that he'll deliver on this.
Posted by: rosignol at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (sjCQ+)

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They are hoping that this is his "read my lips, no new taxes" type of issue. They are not dealing with someone like GHWB.

They chose.......poorly.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (I16G8)

134 Loin status = GIRDED

Posted by: Hands at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (EzdLW)

135 However, this is an interesting little dynamic. Republicans always lose to Democrats on shutdowns.
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Because, media.

If a Rep. Pres balks, as Bush did, then it is the President that is held responsible. If a Rep. Congress balks, then Congress is blamed.

Never is the underlying issue/bill discussed.

Has there *ever* been a reference to 'obstructive' Democrats in the MSM?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (CDGwz)

136 And by "shut it down" we mean they close a campsite in Yosemite NP, and f**k with other tourist destinations. They still do all the "necessary" crap. Call their bluff. And, let DJT own it. He can; he can take it, and over half the American population believes we have to fix our foreign "visitor" problems.
And, it's so, so comforting to know that we have a Senate Majority and House Majority leader who have Trump's back on this.
Purge this f'ing party.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (ty7RM)

137 128 Your Grace is spot on, as always.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 05:57 PM (yQpMk)

Ditto.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (xDiTg)

Tres....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (DpEis)

138 >>Try being a Nittany Lion


You mean Nifty Lion.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at July 30, 2018 06:00 PM (+bAaV)

139 I'm fine with a wall. But I don't see why we can't have a moat with sharks or alligators instead. Built by people serving time for immigration offenses.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 30, 2018 06:00 PM (ckk1c)

140
Having a squish for a Congressman it IS critical that PDT lay down 'The Wall' marker. The squish can never be believable on The Wall but his GOP opponent has tons of Wall credibility.

In deep red districts Real opportunity to crush some squishes.

Posted by: Smashing the Golden Calf at July 30, 2018 06:00 PM (WPxnj)

141 Shut it down. All of it. I don't want to hear about the welfare queens with da chilluns or the old farts on the SS Ponzi Scheme riding around in their RV's having to eat dog food or the illegal invaders who won't get their EBT's filled to buy tortillas and their MS-13 tatts or the EPA chasing around some snail darter in a mudhole.

No more bush league psych out stuff. To hell with all of them and shut it all down.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2018 06:00 PM (EoRCO)

142 What's it going to take to get them to fire on Ft. Sumter this time?

Posted by: torabora at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (k5Zml)

143 Why vote for the GOPussies? They are thinly veiled Dems. Vote them back in why? So it can be said a Rethugican won the district - only to find out the GOP cucksucker returns to the DIABLO ways?Is it better to pull a bandaid off slowly or just yank it off good and hard? Pull it off. If we are going to get a Dem regardless, lets at least thin the GOP-e herd, watch the Dems self immolate (because they will) and keep our focus on 2020. Hopefully with better candidates.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (jxbfJ)

I won't argue on your points--they're all solid. But I don't want to see the Democrats get anymore power than they already have. Yes, the GOPussies are useless, but Trump needs them.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (y8Foj)

144 Speaking of Never-Trumpers-GOPe useless and witless politicians, does Juan Mc Cain just gets to continue drawing pay while "dying" in AZ?

Posted by: Cheri at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (oiNtH)

145 Purge this f'ing party.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

I prefer helping them to see the benefits of voting properly.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (T6t7i)

146 A Force Field... a shimmering Force Field is what we need for the border....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (DpEis)

147 144
Speaking of Never-Trumpers-GOPe useless and witless politicians, does
Juan Mc Cain just gets to continue drawing pay while "dying" in AZ?

Posted by: Cheri at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (oiNtH)
I hope not?

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 30, 2018 06:02 PM (a0IVu)

148 Going back a couple of threads, what are you willing to do to keep Notorious RBG on the bench?
================================
I'd be happy to give her my liver. She'll be retired in no time.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:02 PM (ty7RM)

149 At this po8nt, I might actually hate the republicans more than the democrats.

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2018 06:02 PM (MVjcR)

150 If the government shuts down, does that mean they hit "pause" on the Mueller witch hunt?

Is that a vital government service?

If that s***show does go on hiatus, is it a good thing or bad thing?

Posted by: Ersatz at July 30, 2018 06:02 PM (44PTs)

151 Speaking of Never-Trumpers-GOPe useless and witless politicians, does Juan Mc Cain just gets to continue drawing pay while "dying" in AZ?
Posted by: Cheri at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (oiNtH)

Appears so... he had no pride in real life, and none in near death life.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2018 06:02 PM (Lg2h/)

152 point.

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2018 06:03 PM (jXBkn)

153 A Force Field... a shimmering Force Field is what we need for the border....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (DpEis)


The serious kind, where you toss a rock at it and it vanishes in a puff of dust.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 30, 2018 06:03 PM (9Om/r)

154 145145
Purge this f'ing party.



Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

I prefer helping them to see the benefits of voting properly.


Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (T6t7i)

You think three months before the midterm elections is enough time to educate these clowns?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 30, 2018 06:03 PM (jxbfJ)

155 I am starting to suspect McCain's diagnosis....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 06:03 PM (DpEis)

156 As much as the loss of a few ss checks would suck for me personally I say shut the whole thing down. Make it hurt.

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable. at July 30, 2018 06:04 PM (0OmEj)

157 >>149
At this po8nt, I might actually hate the republicans more than the democrats.

Posted by: Weasel

Most are the internal enemy. I wouldn't piss on a GOPe if they were on fire.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 30, 2018 06:04 PM (r9UYA)

158 Shut it down? Really?

This is Trump and a negotiating ploy. Of course, the first thing the Vichy Republicans do is ....surrender!

Oh no, we aren't going to shut down the government! Oh No! (their skirts are all over their heads).

Give it time. The purpose of this is to energize the base and get turnout up for November.
When Republican congresspeople go home, and get an earful from their constituents, they may come back and support Trump and get something passed.

They are mostly little people afraid of their own shadows.

BOOOO!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at July 30, 2018 06:04 PM (vcOmj)

159 151 Speaking of Never-Trumpers-GOPe useless and witless politicians, does Juan Mc Cain just gets to continue drawing pay while "dying" in AZ?
Posted by: Cheri at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (oiNtH)

Appears so... he had no pride in real life, and none in near death life.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2018 06:02 PM (Lg2h/)
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God how I wish Trump campaigns in AZ for the wall and posts video of Juan McCain saying "Build the dang fence!"

Posted by: WisRich at July 30, 2018 06:04 PM (G0vdT)

160 Trump agreed to the Omnibus to get the military funded first so now he can force a shutdown if need be

He also wants Mueller played out completely before he retaliates. I'm reminded of Hitler and Napoleon in Russia

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2018 06:04 PM (n+6mJ)

161 if mclame is dying, i'm in line to be the new pope. i will be addressed as "your popeness."

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (KP5rU)

162 You think three months before the midterm elections is enough time to educate these clowns?


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Sure. It's exactly the right time to "educate" them. Nice seat you have there. Pity if something were to happen to it.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (T6t7i)

163 I hate both parties equally.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (89T5c)

164 I am starting to suspect McCain's diagnosis....
Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 06:03 PM (DpEis)

He's hiding from his involvement in the Steele dossier.

Posted by: golfman at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (If3tB)

165 Actually.... every time the Republicans shut down the government, they seem to GAIN seats in the next election cycle.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (NgKpN)

166 163 I hate both parties equally.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (89T5c)
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That's why we call it the uniparty.

Posted by: WisRich at July 30, 2018 06:06 PM (G0vdT)

167 I prefer helping them to see the benefits of voting properly.
Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (T6t7i)


I concur. However, like good judicial appointments, Border Security is a sine qua non.

Turtle had better act on border security like he has with judges, or else--turtle soup.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 30, 2018 06:06 PM (ujg0T)

168 i will be addressed as "your popeness."
_________

I believe the proper form is "your popitude"

Posted by: Ersatz at July 30, 2018 06:06 PM (44PTs)

169 Scogg, it's been an honor knowing you.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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He's already out of the country, I think. Which is only a good head start, but it's something.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2018 06:06 PM (CDGwz)

170 Sure. It's exactly the right time to "educate" them. Nice seat you have there. Pity if something were to happen to it.
Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (T6t7i)

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Yep. Otherwise known as the Kavanaugh ploy.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 30, 2018 06:06 PM (I16G8)

171 Loser McLoseface, Losing Worthless Scrunt, and Losing piece of shit all need to sit down, shit the fuck up, and follow PDTs lead.

Its fourth quarter, he handed you a 4 touchdown lead, and you all are sitting on the bench trying to fingerfuck the cheerleaders.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:07 PM (JFO2v)

172 However, like good judicial appointments, Border Security is a sine qua non.

Agreed. Some things can be overlooked. This isn't one of them.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2018 06:07 PM (T6t7i)

173 111. Trump always chooses the high ground in his battles with the Left... that's a general to follow....


'...windage and elevation...'

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 30, 2018 06:07 PM (hYJ19)

174 130 115 I have been a Bulldog my entire life. I was a Dawg fan before Herschel played there. I always will be a Bulldog.

Try being a Nittany Lion, It's hell, I tell ya, pure hell.
Posted by: dr kill at July 30, 2018 05:59 PM (Jj+59)

-------------------------------------------------------

A hearty and heart-felt Roll Tide to botha y'all.

Posted by: cornbred at July 30, 2018 06:07 PM (0uY/a)

175 He's already out of the country, I think. Which is only a good head start, but it's something

Horde witness protection program?

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 30, 2018 06:07 PM (MDSzN)

176 Actually.... every time the Republicans shut down the government, they seem to GAIN seats in the next election cycle.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (NgKpN)

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You know how I know that is true, other than the actual history of shutdowns?
The left/democrats/media/gopE always say the opposite of it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 06:08 PM (pw+jk)

177 Do it TGE! Your approval numbers will skyrocket.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:08 PM (t82DG)

178 153 A Force Field... a shimmering Force Field is what we need for the border....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 06:01 PM (DpEis)


The serious kind, where you toss a rock at it and it vanishes in a puff of dust.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 30, 2018 06:03 PM (9Om/r)

Iron Dome, tied to a body capacitance system, calibrated for animals above 100 lbs.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:08 PM (NgKpN)

179 Turtle had better act on border security like he has with judges, or else--turtle soup.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 30, 2018 06:06 PM

Let's not be too hasty. This is complex, with many subtleties that are not apparent to amateurs.

Posted by: Mitch M., Snapper Extrodinaire at July 30, 2018 06:08 PM (ctuyM)

180 does Juan Mc Cain just gets to continue drawing pay

************

I prefer to refer to Juan by his given name, Songbird McPlanecrash.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 30, 2018 06:09 PM (+dsLj)

181 Everytime the government gets shut down, the stock market goes up.

I have absolutely no proof of that, but it sounds good to me. Let's start a rumor.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at July 30, 2018 06:09 PM (vcOmj)

182 I am starting to suspect McCain's diagnosis....
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I don't. My mom died of glioblastoma. I saw a picture of him post op. recently. He had the cockeyed eye thing my mom had before she died. It can take a bit of time depending on which part of the brain is the origin. It has to get into the reptilian brain before your autonomic functions shut down. Remember: everyone dies of the same thing. Pulmonary failure.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:09 PM (ty7RM)

183 Most are the internal enemy. I wouldn't piss on a GOPe if they were on fire.

Posted by: Under Fire
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Hmm. Something of a paradox there, or is it a conundrum?

Anyway, one would have to suppress the potential satisfaction of immediate gratification.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2018 06:09 PM (CDGwz)

184 A Force Field... a shimmering Force Field is what we need for the border....


Mine fields are cost effective. That should appeal to a businessman.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 06:09 PM (3Absq)

185 So will the GOPe finally have the guts to stand up and take their place on the Good Ship Kristol? They're neverTrumpers all, just hoping they won't have to drop their masks before the election.

Posted by: cornbred at July 30, 2018 06:09 PM (0uY/a)

186 163 I hate both parties equally.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (89T5c)

Come on now Debbie Wethead Scrunt? Palsi? Foaddy-Fi. Name 1 repub you hate that much?

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (JFO2v)

187 At this po8nt, I might actually hate the republicans more than the democrats.
Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2018 06:02 PM (MVjcR)

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I've been there for close to four years, man. To hell with them all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (AzW6q)

188 Iron Dome, tied to a body capacitance system, calibrated for animals above 100 lbs.

20 to 30 million watts IRP?

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (MDSzN)

189 I'm glad I could spread that little bit of joy for the Horde. My mood ring is solid black today.
Cheers!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (ty7RM)

190 I wouldn't piss on a GOPe if they were on fire.


I would at least try to beat out the flames with a logging chain, good christian that I am.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (3Absq)

191 I think forgets that Trump won the last shutdown.

Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (DH5wZ)

192 173 111. Trump always chooses the high ground in his battles with the Left... that's a general to follow....


'...windage and elevation...'
Posted by: Lone ranger at July 30, 2018 06:07 PM (hYJ19)


I believe that was John Wayne's line as he taught a Hawt Southern Widow how to shoot in the movie 'The Undefeated'.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:11 PM (NgKpN)

193 Its fourth quarter, he handed you a 4 touchdown lead, and you all are sitting on the bench trying to fingerfuck the cheerleaders.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:07 PM

* Scottish burr *
That's as close as they're ever going to get to being Winners.

Posted by: John Patrick Mason at July 30, 2018 06:11 PM (ctuyM)

194 if mclame is dying, i'm in line to be the new pope. i will be addressed as "your popeness."
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (KP5rU)

Greetings to Chavez the Hugo I, The Popeness Humungus! The Warrior of Vaticanland! The Popenhole-Ah of Rock and Rolla!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2018 06:11 PM (EoRCO)

195 Come on now Debbie Wethead Scrunt? Palsi? Foaddy-Fi. Name 1 repub you hate that much?
Posted by: rhennigantx


Don't harsh their anger! It feeds the Dark Side!

yeah, like they are really all the same (eyeroll)


Jim Jordan and Rand Paul are JUST LIKE Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

Burn the witch and all that.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at July 30, 2018 06:11 PM (vcOmj)

196 186 163 I hate both parties equally.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 30, 2018 06:05 PM (89T5c)

Come on now Debbie Wethead Scrunt? Palsi? Foaddy-Fi. Name 1 repub you hate that much?
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (JFO2v)


THIS. As loathsome, spineless, or turncoat many in the GOPee can be, I can't think of any who go as far as to deserve a HUAC hearing, A Nuremburg Trial, or Deportation to the Mythical Wakanda-land. I can think of a good many Demunist Commiecrats who do, however.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 30, 2018 06:12 PM (ujg0T)

197 I'm voting GOP even if my ass is on fire. One party is a bunch of amnesty cucks, but the other party actually wants to kill me dead.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 30, 2018 06:12 PM (+dsLj)

198 I think forgets that Trump won the last shutdown.
Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (DH5wZ)

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Well, Trump wasn't in office during that, but Rs did retake the Senate after the last one.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 30, 2018 06:12 PM (I16G8)

199 194; thank you, my friend.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 30, 2018 06:13 PM (KP5rU)

200 You R's out there on my left, swing over to my right and we fix bayonets and all charge down the hill and drive the D's from the field.

Posted by: torabora at July 30, 2018 06:13 PM (k5Zml)

201 197 I'm voting GOP even if my ass is on fire. One party is a bunch of amnesty cucks, but the other party actually wants to kill me dead.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 30, 2018 06:12 PM (+dsLj)


Shhh.... we don't have to tell them, though....

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 06:13 PM (DpEis)

202 197 I'm voting GOP even if my ass is on fire. One party is a bunch of amnesty cucks, but the other party actually wants to kill me dead

THIS

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 30, 2018 06:13 PM (MDSzN)

203 Come on now Debbie Wethead Scrunt? Palsi? Foaddy-Fi. Name 1 repub you hate that much?
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:10 PM (JFO2v)

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Paul Ryan. Mitch McConnell. Jeff Flake. Bob Corker. Ben Sasse. Bob Mueller. And that doesn't even begin to address the thousands of others in media and government.

These bastards have been responsible for hoodwinking us while they gave away the game to the enemy, the whole time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:13 PM (AzW6q)

204 Most of the Federal government should be shut down permanently.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (sdi6R)

205 No one asked me to name who I hate ask much as the three scrunterreros.

John McCain. He quit the fukn race and came back to hand the election over to Halfblack.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (JFO2v)

206 I mentioned on a previous thread that when the government shuts down, the funds are not available for guaranteeing or insuring FHA or VA loans. Some lenders stick their necks out and close anyway, but a lot do not. If the government does shut down, it would be great to make provisions for this ahead of time because needless to say people get very angry when they cannot close of their homes. It would be good to find a way to take that out of the government shutdown equation.

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (YuQLm)

207 115 I have been a Bulldog my entire life. I was a Dawg fan before Herschel played there. I always will be a Bulldog.

However, WTAF is this crap with the Dean of the Journalism school?!?!??!?!!!?!?!?!?

F#$% You you spineless useless F%#ing pos C%$# sucker!!!

FU FU FU!!!!!

You useless MFer! FU!
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (gBoVY)

Dawg fan bleeding red and black since a zygote and multigeberational alumni checking in. The J school used to be a treasure and one of the best in the country. I'm sure the Dean eats bags of dicks to virtue signal its a place of SJWism and restistance.

Also can't wait for football season to start this year. We will be strong. 2019 will will be terrifyingly great. Can you believe Cal's best receiver and athlete in the entire Pac 12 transferred home? He has crazy speed. Our offense will be like video game incredible by 2019.

Kirby is a master recruiter. He is a closer.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (t82DG)

208 Paul Ryan. Mitch McConnell. Jeff Flake. Bob Corker. Ben Sasse. Bob Mueller. And that doesn't even begin to address the thousands of others in media and government.

These bastards have been responsible for hoodwinking us while they gave away the game to the enemy, the whole time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:13 PM

This, to exponent 10000.

Blue Falcons, all.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (ctuyM)

209 Apagalo!

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (HgMAr)

210 Posted by: weirdflunky at July 30, 2018 05:56 PM (gBoVY)

Ha! My wife has been a U-G fan a long time also. She can't believe that idiot Dean.

Posted by: clutch at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (kiSdp)

211 200 You R's out there on my left, swing over to my right and we fix bayonets and all charge down the hill and drive the D's from the field.
Posted by: torabora at July 30, 2018 06:13 PM (k5Zml)


Even as a Faithful Son of the South.


I must point out that is was mainly DEMOCRATS who were on the wrong side of Pickets Charge.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:16 PM (NgKpN)

212 Cierre del gobierno!

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at July 30, 2018 06:16 PM (HgMAr)

213 Sigh
Even with PDT, America as seen it's best days because of all the assholes on the left and the RINOs. PDT is only a temporary reprieve. I wish that was untrue, but that is the way I see it.

SMOD come and take me away

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2018 06:16 PM (Lg2h/)

214 204 Most of the Federal government should be shut down permanently.
Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (sdi6R)

Lemmee see.. I want the military, and the interstate highway system, and.......

Posted by: kraken at July 30, 2018 06:16 PM (DpEis)

215 197 I'm voting GOP even if my ass is on fire. One party is a bunch of amnesty cucks, but the other party actually wants to kill me dead.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 30, 2018 06:12 PM (+dsLj)

Amnesty kills your kids and grandkids and our country. But I get your point.

We need a MAGA party.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:17 PM (t82DG)

216 I don't see the List. Maybe Jane calmed down after all...

Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2018 06:17 PM (NWiLs)

217 This is not true. From the leftard side of things, shutdowns are merely a half step away from proving that the 330M+ Americans don't give a shit about whatever the federal government might be up to today.

Posted by: sunflower at July 30, 2018 06:17 PM (Exn6m)

218 It really is bizarre that the GOP, a supposedly legitimate political party has no legislative agenda other than getting Kavenaugh for the mid-terms.


Bizarre.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 30, 2018 06:17 PM (rsaUi)

219 I don't see the List. Maybe Jane calmed down after all...
Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2018 06:17 PM (NWiLs)

-----

Maybe she's adding amendments, lol.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (AzW6q)

220 Cuelguelos de un paso elevado!

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (HgMAr)

221 Look, the main reason Trump's threat has such validity is Trump will make sure all of America knows how unnecessary 90% of fedizilla is.

The left, right, gopE, and deep state are FUCKING TERRIFIED OF THAT. When Americans know that the federal government is useless and affects ZERO percent of our everyday life the man behind the curtain is exposed. The establishment will cave and get down on their knees like a $5 whore.


You. Know. I am. Right.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (pw+jk)

222 I must point out that is was mainly DEMOCRATS who were on the wrong side of Pickets Charge.
Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:16 PM (NgKpN)

And voting rights
And education
And separate but equal
And depression economy
And Obamacare
And KKK
And Housing Mortgage Crisis
And .....

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (JFO2v)

223 Interesting.

https://tinyurl.com/yd94fsth

DoJ to take stronger stance in guaranteeing religious liberty.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (/qEW2)

224 I hate them both. Sick of the good cop/bad cop shit. Fair amount of r's wouldn't mind seeing us disappear either.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 30, 2018 06:19 PM (89T5c)

225 221 Look, the main reason Trump's threat has such validity is Trump will make sure all of America knows how unnecessary 90% of fedizilla is.

The left, right, gopE, and deep state are FUCKING TERRIFIED OF THAT. When Americans know that the federal government is useless and affects ZERO percent of our everyday life the man behind the curtain is exposed. The establishment will cave and get down on their knees like a $5 whore.


You. Know. I am. Right.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (pw+jk)


Trumpzilla vs. Fedzilla.

"History shows again and again the terrible folly of socialist men...."

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 30, 2018 06:19 PM (ujg0T)

226 Well, Mr. President, just go right ahead. Make America Great Again. It's why we voted for you.

Posted by: Eromero at July 30, 2018 06:19 PM (zLDYs)

227 >>>I am starting to suspect McCain's diagnosis....<<<

At this point, I say we pull the plug on Malignant Johnny's tumor. That damn thing never stood a chance in hell.

Posted by: Fritz at July 30, 2018 06:19 PM (wjHbC)

228 Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 30, 2018 06:15 PM (YuQLm)


I don't think that's how this works.

There is no government outlays for VA loans. They are a loan Guarantee, not a payment to the lender.


Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:20 PM (NgKpN)

229 my popemobile will be a ferrarri, for the folks. i just need to find a driver.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 30, 2018 06:21 PM (KP5rU)

230 Trump has to do this because the GOPe in the house passed a bill to allow 32 million central Americans to seek asylum here for something as petty as domestic violence! Trump knows what is going on. He has to shut this shit down now or 10's of millions will invade in the next 10 years and America will be gone forever.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:21 PM (t82DG)

231 192 Don Q...

I dont know the exact movie but yes, that was a hawt woman.
Been many years since i watched 'undefeated' so i cant confirm

Might just watch that tonite.

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 30, 2018 06:21 PM (hYJ19)

232 194; thank you, my friend.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 30, 2018 06:13 PM (KP5rU)

Your welcome! Just let me drive the Pope Mobile when we go to take the compound and all that precious gasoline.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (EoRCO)

233 Trumpzilla vs. Fedzilla.



"History shows again and again the terrible folly of socialist men...."

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 30, 2018 06:19 PM (ujg0T)

=====
He picks up a department in Washington and throws it back down.....
Go go Trumpzilla.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (pw+jk)

234 222 I must point out that is was mainly DEMOCRATS who were on the wrong side of Pickets Charge.
Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:16 PM (NgKpN)

And voting rights
And education
And separate but equal
And depression economy
And Obamacare
And KKK
And Housing Mortgage Crisis
And .....
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (JFO2v)


The comment was pointed at the tactic...


You know, fix bayonets and charge?


When Republicans win its because they call in Artillery.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (NgKpN)

235 Also can't wait for football season to start this year. We will be strong. 2019 will will be terrifyingly great.


I see no reason why UGA won't win the East again.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (3Absq)

236 Anxiously waiting for the list...

Posted by: golfman at July 30, 2018 05:54 PM (If3tB)

And here it is:

5 Deadly Terms Used By Women

#1 Fine -- This is the word women use to end an argument when she knows she is right and you need to shut up.

#2 Nothing -- Means something an you need to be worried.

#3 Go Ahead -- This is a dare. Not permission. Do not do it.

#4 Whatever -- A woman's way of saying "screw you."

#5 That's OK -- She is thinking long and hard on how and when you will pay for your mistake.

Bonus Word: Wow! -- This is not a compliment. She's amazed that one person could be so stupid.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

237 I prefer to refer to Juan by his given name, Songbird McPlanecrash.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 30, 2018 06:09 PM (+dsLj)


What goes up must come down... la la la...
Ow, my head.

Posted by: Sen. Drooling John (R) at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (HgMAr)

238 I don't buy the "conventional wisdom" that Republicans always lose public opinion on government shutdowns. The GOP "gained" seats in a mid-term after the last one. The media and the GOPe want to pretend that the shutdown played bad for Ted Cruz and others, but the reality is that most people don't care one way or the other and the majority of people who do care were in favor of the shutdown. The only people who didn't like the shutdown were the DC types who began to realize that they matter a lot less than they thought.

Shut. It. Down.

(Full Disclosure: I'm a federal employee.)

Posted by: fretlesst at July 30, 2018 06:23 PM (sGtp+)

239 I must point out that is was mainly DEMOCRATS who were on the wrong side of Pickets Charge.
Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:16 PM (NgKpN)



I'm picturing it more as Chamberlain's Right Wheel.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 06:23 PM (3Absq)

240 236, Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

Heh.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 30, 2018 06:24 PM (a0IVu)

241 The left, right, gopE, and deep state are FUCKING TERRIFIED OF THAT. When Americans know that the federal government is useless and affects ZERO percent of our everyday life the man behind the curtain is exposed. The establishment will cave and get down on their knees like a $5 whore.


You. Know. I am. Right.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (pw+jk)

SO TRUE! You can cuss the dogcatcher. You can vote out the assembly man banging his Tranny lover. You can run the police chief off. But the CUCKs, Weasels, Scrunts, and Neer do wells of DC go on and on, forever. There is not one thing they do not want to control. Your shit, your deodorant, your tampons, and your food. Please do not try to save me from myself, the GREATEST MAN EVER still has mixed emotion about me.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:24 PM (JFO2v)

242 218 It really is bizarre that the GOP, a supposedly legitimate political party has no legislative agenda other than getting Kavenaugh for the mid-terms.


Bizarre.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 30, 2018 06:17 PM (rsaUi)

The House recently passed a bill via voice vote to allow 32 milliokn central Americans to seek asylum in America if they claim domestic vioknce. What could go wrong? Talk about virtue signalling cucks.

*spit*

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:24 PM (t82DG)

243 ...Tommy Boy likey this plan!

Posted by: Tommy Boy at July 30, 2018 06:24 PM (dwxY9)

244 They keep trying to put Trump in a corner so he returns the favor by putting them in a corner. Either live up to your rhetoric or FOAD.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2018 06:25 PM (IG3bX)

245
5 Deadly Terms Used By Women

#1 Fine -- This is the word women use to end an argument when she knows she is right and you need to shut up.

#2 Nothing -- Means something an you need to be worried.

#3 Go Ahead -- This is a dare. Not permission. Do not do it.

#4 Whatever -- A woman's way of saying "screw you."

#5 That's OK -- She is thinking long and hard on how and when you will pay for your mistake.

Bonus Word: Wow! -- This is not a compliment. She's amazed that one person could be so stupid.







Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

====LOL

Not to mention the other 100 terms that are more individualized for the intended male to stupidly step in the bear trap.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 06:25 PM (pw+jk)

246 TRUMP = Sheriff Bart with his own gun to his head

CONGRESS = The People of Rock Ridge

"Oh, Baby, you are SO talented....and they're so DUMB."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 30, 2018 06:25 PM (oVJmc)

247 Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

I was expecting something else. But in this list is dishonesty, duplicity, manipulation, conniving and scheming. Not a flattering list.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2018 06:25 PM (NWiLs)

248 221 Look, the main reason Trump's threat has such validity is Trump will make sure all of America knows how unnecessary 90% of fedizilla is.

The left, right, gopE, and deep state are FUCKING TERRIFIED OF THAT. When Americans know that the federal government is useless and affects ZERO percent of our everyday life the man behind the curtain is exposed. The establishment will cave and get down on their knees like a $5 whore.


You. Know. I am. Right.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 06:18 PM (pw+jk)

Damn straight.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2018 06:26 PM (sdi6R)

249 Just want to point out Picketts Charge should have been called Longstreet's Second Assault, but carry on as usual.

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2018 06:26 PM (pHfeF)

250 See I told you Trump is really a Democrat !!!!

Posted by: Ben Shapiro, Bill Kristol, et al. at July 30, 2018 06:26 PM (iRJ+A)

251 Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

HOLY COW !!

Posted by: runner at July 30, 2018 06:26 PM (BmG3e)

252 THERE IS A LIST !

Posted by: runner at July 30, 2018 06:27 PM (BmG3e)

253 It's not about the nail!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2018 06:27 PM (NWiLs)

254 Bonus Word: Wow! -- This is not a compliment. She's amazed that one person could be so stupid.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

I would add the phrase, "Lovely, just lovely." It isn't. So stop. And fix it now.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 30, 2018 06:27 PM (7UW64)

255 THERE IS A LIST !


I though that women kept this hidden from us. Is Jane going to be Burn Booked?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 06:28 PM (3Absq)

256 >>my popemobile will be a ferrarri, for the folks. i just need to find a driver.

Right here your holiness.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2018 06:28 PM (/tuJf)

257 McCain is nearing his transformation into the villain John "Two Faced" McCain. He isn't dying. I don't buy it either.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:28 PM (t82DG)

258 Don Q,
having been in the mortgage business for 35 years, I am positive that when there are no funds to guarantee the VA loans, lenders are afraid to close. Only recently in the last few years lenders have stuck their necks out and closed loans, but would not continue for a long period of time. Once the loan closes, if it cannot be guaranteed and the borrower goes delinquent, the lender is stuck with the loan and no VA guarantee

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 30, 2018 06:28 PM (YuQLm)

259 The House recently passed a bill via voice vote to allow 32 milliokn central Americans to seek asylum in America if they claim domestic vioknce. What could go wrong? Talk about virtue signalling cucks.

*spit*
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:24 PM (t82DG)

So the top 10% of taxpayers pay 90% of taxes. Lets go buy a nice central american state or 2 and send the local to US. We move there and leave Dems with a 100 trillion check

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:29 PM (JFO2v)

260 I was expecting something else. But in this list is dishonesty, duplicity, manipulation, conniving and scheming. Not a flattering list.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2018 06:25 PM (NWiLs)

I believe you misread the list.

In the list is the avoidance of coming down on someone like a full ton of bricks and breaking him forever.

That list is a list of mercy, my friend. Take it as offered.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 30, 2018 06:29 PM (7UW64)

261 piranhas.
like in the addams family.

Posted by: concrete girl at July 30, 2018 06:29 PM (Hp0xH)

262 256; so let it be written and let it be done. peace out.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 30, 2018 06:29 PM (KP5rU)

263 We should all thank Jane for her thoughtful list. I believe it benefits both sides.

Posted by: runner at July 30, 2018 06:29 PM (BmG3e)

264 So the top 10% of taxpayers pay 90% of taxes. Lets go buy a nice central american state or 2 and send the local to US. We move there and leave Dems with a 100 trillion check
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:29 PM (JFO2v)

This sounds suspiciously like pro-Peruvia.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 30, 2018 06:30 PM (7UW64)

265 I though that women kept this hidden from us. Is Jane going to be Burn Booked?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 06:28 PM (3Absq)

Jane is a hero.

Posted by: runner at July 30, 2018 06:30 PM (BmG3e)

266 Moreover... the Republicans are, in a way worse than the Democrats.

No, they don't share the *most* evil goals of the Dems. But the majority of goals *are* shared, and their pretty danged evil - mainly the maintenance of the status quo, where they enjoy wealth, power, and privilege without regard to, and at the expense of the voters they "serve."

Where they cross the line into being uniquely horrible is this: both factions of the Party of know that we don't want this shit. We don't want their new Mexican demographic, or their entitlement state, or their stupendous spending, and on and on.

So, the Republicans play the "face" to the Democrat "heel" in this kayfabe, and simply pretend to oppose those things during elections, so the peasants don't get too restless as we're inevitably, once again, fucked blind by the Party.

They're using our better angels against us.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:31 PM (AzW6q)

267 245
5 Deadly Terms Used By Women

#1 Fine -- This is the word women use to end an argument when she knows she is right and you need to shut up.

#2 Nothing -- Means something an you need to be worried.

#3 Go Ahead -- This is a dare. Not permission. Do not do it.

#4 Whatever -- A woman's way of saying "screw you."

#5 That's OK -- She is thinking long and hard on how and when you will pay for your mistake.

Bonus Word: Wow! -- This is not a compliment. She's amazed that one person could be so stupid.







Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

====LOL

Not to mention the other 100 terms that are more individualized for the intended male to stupidly step in the bear trap.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 30, 2018 06:25 PM (pw+jk)

All communications via email with the younger generation 45 and younger, record, or never talk in private. It's the only way.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:31 PM (t82DG)

268 Jane is a hero.

Our ma.....woman in Havana.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 30, 2018 06:31 PM (MDSzN)

269 I believe you misread the list.


Nope, not at all. The intent of furnishing the list was to forewarn and forearm. The list itself and the "hidden" meanings of the words spoken - which are often the opposite of what is said - demonstrate the characteristics I listed.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2018 06:31 PM (NWiLs)

270 See? This is why we need communism!

Posted by: Little Lupe at July 30, 2018 06:32 PM (Tyii7)

271 Never thought the wall would be built. Still don't.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 30, 2018 06:32 PM (r+sAi)

272 Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 30, 2018 06:28 PM (YuQLm)

Hmmm... it seems like that would be a debt owed by the United States, and thus able to be collected on, once the Government opened back up... as it inevitably will.

So what happens if an OLD VA loan goes bad while the government is shut down? Seems like it would be the same situation.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:32 PM (NgKpN)

273 Force the cucks to declare who is more important - American citizens or illegal aliens.

Posted by: josephistan at July 30, 2018 06:32 PM (Izzlo)

274 McCain is nearing his transformation into the villain John "Two Faced" McCain. He isn't dying. I don't buy it either.
====================================
I dare you to find a more fucked up disease to lie about. That would be beyond flying in the face of God. I watched what it did to my mom, one of the most brilliant and well read people I have ever known. It robbed her of her gifts, one by one, until she was a husk of a person, living on morphine and water at the end.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:33 PM (ty7RM)

275 No, because the loan has already been guaranteed. The lender may not be able to collect during the shutdown, but they can collect once the government opens up. But if a loan is not guaranteed and goes delinquent, it is the lender's problem

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 30, 2018 06:34 PM (YuQLm)

276 They're using our better angels against us.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:31 PM (AzW6q)

Are better angels Alinsky #4? Use their rules against them?

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:34 PM (JFO2v)

277 timing kind of sucks. I kind of wish this would have popped up during primary season.

Posted by: Orson at July 30, 2018 06:34 PM (z7M+W)

278 I would add the phrase, "Lovely, just lovely." It isn't. So stop. And fix it now.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 30, 2018 06:27 PM (7UW64)

------------

"Sheesh honey, I told you I would take care of it. No need to bug me every month about it!".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 30, 2018 06:34 PM (I16G8)

279 That would be beyond flying in the face of God.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:33 PM (ty7RM)

Well, technically McCain crashed....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2018 06:34 PM (wYseH)

280 Want the wall to be built but its only part of the problem.

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2018 06:35 PM (pHfeF)

281 259 The House recently passed a bill via voice vote to allow 32 milliokn central Americans to seek asylum in America if they claim domestic vioknce. What could go wrong? Talk about virtue signalling cucks.

*spit*
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:24 PM (t82DG)

So the top 10% of taxpayers pay 90% of taxes. Lets go buy a nice central american state or 2 and send the local to US. We move there and leave Dems with a 100 trillion check
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:29 PM (JFO2v)

The bill is a nation killer. I like your idea. First I suggest biuioding a southern wall with the bones of our domestic enemies and all invaders who are hear illegally. If that diwnst persuade them that they shouldn't come,
*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:35 PM (t82DG)

282 I dare you to find a more fucked up disease to lie
about. That would be beyond flying in the face of God. I watched what it
did to my mom, one of the most brilliant and well read people I have
ever known. It robbed her of her gifts, one by one, until she was a husk
of a person, living on morphine and water at the end.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:33 PM (ty7RM)

And yet just a couple of weeks ago, Meggie Mac was saying he was still up and walking around, etc.


Yeah, something is fishy. Stinks, even.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:35 PM (ptqGC)

283 This sounds suspiciously like pro-Peruvia.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 30, 2018 06:30 PM (7UW64)

I thought Peruvia was in Eastern Europe.

Really though it's more a state of mind I think.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 30, 2018 06:35 PM (4ErVI)

284 I feel like biting someone again.

Posted by: Little Lupe at July 30, 2018 06:36 PM (Tyii7)

285 So what does a woman say when the man is right?
Answer: "RRRrrrr" and a turn and exit.

Posted by: mrp at July 30, 2018 06:36 PM (Pqytn)

286 Isn't a gov shut down like going out of business? If so, dibs on the Columbia River!

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 30, 2018 06:37 PM (MDSzN)

287 273 Force the cucks to declare who is more important - American citizens or illegal aliens.
Posted by: josephistan at July 30, 2018 06:32 PM (Izzlo)

They picked many year ago. Your daughters hymen and sons lives are not worth one plug nickel!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 30, 2018 06:37 PM (JFO2v)

288 but they can collect once the government opens up. But if a loan is not guaranteed and goes delinquent, it is the lender's problem
Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 30, 2018 06:34 PM (YuQLm)

Oh, I get it... because you need VA approval to get the VA loan in the first place...


And they won't be working.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:37 PM (NgKpN)

289 Don
Also VA loans cannot be sold until they are guaranteed, so if interest rates go up, the lender is screwed waiting for the guarantee even if the loan does not go delinquent.

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 30, 2018 06:37 PM (YuQLm)

290 A most novel idea...

259 rhenniganTX

So the top 10% of taxpayers pay 90% of taxes. Lets go buy a nice central american state or 2 and send the local to US. We move there and leave Dems with a 100 trillion check

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 30, 2018 06:37 PM (hYJ19)

291 279 That would be beyond flying in the face of God.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:33 PM (ty7RM)

Well, technically McCain crashed....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2018 06:34 PM (wYseH)


More than once...

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:38 PM (NgKpN)

292 I sure hope they don't foreclose on my teefs.

Posted by: Little Lupe at July 30, 2018 06:38 PM (Tyii7)

293 I heard something briefly on Fox today about some Pakistani (?) being arrested for planning to bring four Yemini terrorists across the TX border.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:39 PM (ptqGC)

294 @271

There will be no meaningful funding for wall so no meaningful wall will be built.

In fact the GOP is not only not going to fund the wall but they are pushing through new rules that would limit what little the Adminisitraion can do through executive action to stem the tide.


The Democrats are evil but at least they show you how evil they are openly, the GOP on the other hand are snakes and charlatans and for a all intents and purposes are an illigitimate political party as properly understood.


In summation...


The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 30, 2018 06:39 PM (rsaUi)

295 289 Don
Also VA loans cannot be sold until they are guaranteed, so if interest rates go up, the lender is screwed waiting for the guarantee even if the loan does not go delinquent.
Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 30, 2018 06:37 PM (YuQLm)


Still... as a Vet? I'd take border security and less illegals even if it meant waiting a couple of weeks for my loan to close.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:39 PM (NgKpN)

296 >>>So what does a woman say when the man is right?<<<

Nevermind -- I'll just suck it up until later when I'll be banging your friend/brother/father when you're not around.

Posted by: Fritz at July 30, 2018 06:39 PM (wjHbC)

297 The mayors and City Councils of all Sanctraury Cities need to be arrested and Arrest Moonbeam and Newsom Hold the cities liable for any crimes commited by the Future Democratic Voters

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 30, 2018 06:39 PM (wGqjj)

298 Yeah, something is fishy. Stinks, even.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:35 PM (ptqGC)

----

He's certainly beating the odds badly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:40 PM (VQH4r)

299 @293

Look for Mueller to fold them into the Awan immunity deal.

Or..


You get immunity and you get immunity and you get immunity...

Everybody gets immunity!!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at July 30, 2018 06:41 PM (rsaUi)

300 And yet just a couple of weeks ago, Meggie Mac was saying he was still up and walking around,
............

in clockwise ever-tightening circles until he hits a wall, then they point him across the room and he does it again.

Posted by: wth at July 30, 2018 06:41 PM (HgMAr)

301 274 McCain is nearing his transformation into the villain John "Two Faced" McCain. He isn't dying. I don't buy it either.
====================================
I dare you to find a more fucked up disease to lie about. That would be beyond flying in the face of God. I watched what it did to my mom, one of the most brilliant and well read people I have ever known. It robbed her of her gifts, one by one, until she was a husk of a person, living on morphine and water at the end.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:33 PM (ty7RM)

I'm sorry about your mom. Watching a parent die is one of the worst things a person can go through. I'm not making fun of her or others. My remarks are about McCain.

I honestly don't believe John McCain has what he says he has. A stroke or two two, yes. Skin cancer, yes. Non cancerous masses turning him into the villain John "Two Faced" McCain yes.

He is fucked for being a traitor via the phoney Russia piss gate fusion GPS crap. Plus the McCain Institute/Foundation is just like the Clinton Foundation and CGI. He is a war criminal, traitor, and war profiteer of the worst kind.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:41 PM (t82DG)

302 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:33 PM (ty7RM)

My mother died of glioblastoma too. I took care of her, so I watched the progression. To be honest, it could have been much worse. She didn't have pain till the last week of her life, and she never had seizures. It was difficult to watch her fade away, but it would have been harder to watch her suffer great pain.

Someone at hospice told me that glioblastoma is the only kind of cancer that can, for some, be almost painless.

Posted by: girldog at July 30, 2018 06:41 PM (g5YYQ)

303 He's certainly beating the odds badly.

When was he diagnosed? IIRC, the average time from diagnosis to death is 18 months. My BFF lasted 20.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2018 06:42 PM (3Absq)

304 It's interesting that Stacey Abrams, the Great Black Hope for GA gov. (vagina--extra points) wants to ban the use of law enforcement to aid ICE.

Atlanta is ground zero for human trafficking and MS-13 gangs and drugs.

She's got Soros money funding her and The Beast's support.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:42 PM (ptqGC)

305 297 The mayors and City Councils of all Sanctraury Cities need to be arrested and Arrest Moonbeam and Newsom Hold the cities liable for any crimes commited by the Future Democratic Voters
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 30, 2018 06:39 PM (wGqjj)

May I present to Jeff Sessions 1907, Title 8, USC 1324 aiding and abetting Illegal Aliens.


It specifically makes what these mayors and city councils are doing, a Felony.

Posted by: Don Q at July 30, 2018 06:42 PM (NgKpN)

306 There comes a time where the issue is so important that the gubmint needs to be shut down. Enforcement of our borders and tightening immigration is that issue. I have no problem 'shutting down' the government for at least two reasons:
1) Most of the 'essential services' will still run. I forget the percentage from last time, but it is ridiculously high. I hope PDT shuts shuts down more departments, actually.
2) As someone mentioned above, most of the services do not affect everyday Americans.

The biggest screaming will probably come from those receiving transfer payments, like welfare, social security (if that is actually delayed), etc. In the long term, what would probably be a temporary, scary disruption to these people might be beneficial, IF the following lesson would be learned: WHAT THE GOVERNMENT GIVES, THE GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE AWAY. I would hope that that is the message that is received.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 30, 2018 06:43 PM (8iiMU)

307 It costs more to kick people out of a war memorial than it does to leave it open. That shit really pissed me off. How fucking stupid do they think we are?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 30, 2018 06:43 PM (rnAwa)

308 And yet just a couple of weeks ago, Meggie Mac was saying he was still up and walking around, etc.
================================
My mom was up and walking around near the end too. Walking into door jambs, walking around the pitch black house, trying to walk into the bathroom. You can survive a pitifully long time on auto-pilot waiting for the end. I hate to be an ass about this, but it makes zero sense they would fake a horrible disease like this.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2018 06:43 PM (ty7RM)

309 299 @293

Look for Mueller to fold them into the Awan immunity deal.

Or..


You get immunity and you get immunity and you get immunity...

Everybody gets immunity!!!!
Posted by: Kreplach at July 30, 2018 06:41 PM (rsaUi)

Except you, no Immunity for you!

/points at the President

Posted by: Immunity Nazi at July 30, 2018 06:44 PM (NgKpN)

310 269 I believe you misread the list.


Nope, not at all. The intent of furnishing the list was to forewarn and forearm. The list itself and the "hidden" meanings of the words spoken - which are often the opposite of what is said - demonstrate the characteristics I listed.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2018 06:31 PM (NWiLs)

And Florida is a stand your ground state as well.

*fistbump*

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 30, 2018 06:44 PM (t82DG)

311 308 And yet just a couple of weeks ago, Meggie Mac was saying he was still up and walking around, etc.

Yep, and after his stroke, Woodrow Wilson was still hitting em outa the park.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at July 30, 2018 06:45 PM (MDSzN)

312 No nerves in the brain. But like how HAL dies in 2001

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2018 06:45 PM (l2Ee0)

313 Nood!

Posted by: The boy that cried "Nood!"

Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 30, 2018 06:45 PM (2sCft)

314 I doubt McCain is lying about it.

I think it's 18 months, maybe two years when most people start dying from it.

A very few make it longer than five years but it's only about 5% or less.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 30, 2018 06:46 PM (4ErVI)

315 Brit Hume: Trump Pushing Government Shutdown 'Is as Dumb an Idea as ICan Imagine'


Wasn't this dessicated old asshole supposed to have retired like 10 years ago?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 30, 2018 06:47 PM (r9UYA)

316 When was he diagnosed? IIRC, the average time from diagnosis to death is 18 months. My BFF lasted 20.

------

Don't know about averages. The median is less than a year with aggressive treatment, and McCain is 82 years old and had prior cancer to begin with, so I would think he'd stack on the left side of that curve...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:47 PM (VQH4r)

317 If the president does the proper battlefield prep, then a federal government shutdown makes sense. The Wall, Sanctuary Cities, local non-compliance with federal laws and regulations will put the Dems in a position promoting insurrection in favor of people who are in this country illegally. The Dems also support porous borders that allow drug runners and terrorists to cross into the US undetected. If the GOP-e and the Democrat Party wants to promote drug running and terrorism, that's on them.

Posted by: mrp at July 30, 2018 06:48 PM (Pqytn)

318 They're using our better angels against us.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2018 06:31 PM (AzW6q)

If they don't know the difference between restraint and weakness, then they deserve neither.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 30, 2018 06:48 PM (rnAwa)

319 5 Deadly Terms Used By Women

#1 Fine -- This is the word women use to end an argument when she knows she is right and you need to shut up.

#2 Nothing -- Means something an you need to be worried.

#3 Go Ahead -- This is a dare. Not permission. Do not do it.

#4 Whatever -- A woman's way of saying "screw you."

#5 That's OK -- She is thinking long and hard on how and when you will pay for your mistake.

Bonus Word: Wow! -- This is not a compliment. She's amazed that one person could be so stupid.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

It's a shame that women never learned to say what they mean. It's sort of like make-up. "This is the way I want you to see me while my real self hides beneath this layer of cosmetics." With the words it's "I prefer not to engage in clear communication with you. I will use language that means what I want it to mean. Nothing more, nothing less".

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 30, 2018 06:48 PM (9BLnV)

320 307 It costs more to kick people out of a war memorial than it does to leave it open. That shit really pissed me off. How fucking stupid do they think we are?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 30, 2018 06:43 PM (rnAwa)

They keep getting re-elected. Does that answer your question?

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2018 06:49 PM (sdi6R)

321 Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:42 PM (ptqGC)

Bless her heart.

Posted by: clutch at July 30, 2018 06:56 PM (kiSdp)

322 Definitely a yuge Trump win possible here (the Dems know it, too), and maybe the only way to guarantee the GOP retains the House. The cucks will flap and squawk and watch the polls and then likely vote with the president. Trump has their number and they still don't know it. It will be good to watch Ryan retire in absolute tatters.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 30, 2018 06:59 PM (E8md/)

323 304
It's interesting that Stacey Abrams, the Great Black Hope for GA gov.
(vagina--extra points) wants to ban the use of law enforcement to aid
ICE.

Atlanta is ground zero for human trafficking and MS-13 gangs and drugs.

She's got Soros money funding her and The Beast's support.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:42 PM (ptqGC)

Serious question: Soros is a foreign national. He is using a huge amount of money to alter US and local elections. Why is this POS not arrested and brought to America for trial?

Soros is doing a hundred times what Russia is doing to mess with our elections. Jail the bastard.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 30, 2018 07:36 PM (UsCnO)

324 Serious question: Soros is a foreign national. He is using a huge amount of money to alter US and local elections. Why is this POS not arrested and brought to America for trial?

Soros is doing a hundred times what Russia is doing to mess with our elections. Jail the bastard.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 30, 2018 07:36 PM (UsCnO)

IIRC, Soros is now an American citizen. Having said that, as a Nazi collaborator, why isn't he stripped of his citizenship and sent back to Hungary to face the music?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 30, 2018 08:28 PM (rpokJ)

325 It's interesting that Stacey Abrams, the Great Black Hope for GA gov. (vagina--extra points) wants to ban the use of law enforcement to aid ICE.

Atlanta is ground zero for human trafficking and MS-13 gangs and drugs.

She's got Soros money funding her and The Beast's support.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2018 06:42 PM (ptqGC)

The irony of a black woman promoting human trafficking is staggering.

But, OTOH, if the Beast supports her, she's in trouble. If Obongo supports her, she's definitely toast.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 30, 2018 08:29 PM (rpokJ)

326 I say shut it down and see if anyone notices.

Posted by: anonymous at July 30, 2018 09:22 PM (v5uOx)

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