Jordan Peterson Files $1.5 Million Defamation Lawsuit Against Wilfrid Laurier, The Canadian University That Called Him an Incompetent Nazi While Intimidating Lindsey Shephard

Yes. Finally.

Let the "Nazis" start suing their enemies into the poor-house. Just like they did in WW2 (obviously).

University of Toronto Professor Jordan Peterson has launched a $1.5-million defamation suit against Wilfrid Laurier University, two of its professors and a former gender and equity manager for suggesting he was “analogous to Adolf Hitler.”

The statement of claim, prepared by lawyer Howard Levitt and filed Monday, says Peterson was falsely labelled as incompetent, sexist, misogynist, dangerous and racist in a now infamous disciplinary meeting with Wilfrid Laurier University teaching assistant Lindsay Shepherd.

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"So I think this is a warning, let's say, to other careless administrators and professors who allow their ideological presuppositions to get the best of them to be a bit more careful with what they say and do," he said.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:30 PM




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1 Foist and naked

Posted by: Anthony Weiner - butt naked at June 21, 2018 12:29 PM (sdrzW)

2 Canada needs an ACLU. a real one not the commie front we got

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 21, 2018 12:30 PM (u6geU)

3 punch back twice as hard

Posted by: brak at June 21, 2018 12:30 PM (VckGX)

4 Annoying pseudo-paywall to the article. Deal-breaker for me.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at June 21, 2018 12:32 PM (XELll)

5 Can one do this in the USofA?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 21, 2018 12:32 PM (hPkc4)

6 They want to decide what you can and can't say under penalty of law? They aren't going to like living by those rules. Go get em, Jordan.

Posted by: Rationalist Yoda at June 21, 2018 12:33 PM (duAEC)

7 Sue pants suit and Che' berets off them!!

Posted by: dananjcon at June 21, 2018 12:35 PM (xqfqx)

8 It's Canadia, Ace.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2018 12:38 PM (ogl5q)

9 About time we started using their playbook against them.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 21, 2018 12:38 PM (72PAC)

10 Good good good good good.

Good.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:38 PM (rhdgT)

11 Is that $1.5 Million in loonies or dollars?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 12:38 PM (0tfLf)

12 Melania should tell the MSM to fuck off in the 6 languages she speaks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 21, 2018 12:34 PM (V+Su2)

That would be so hot.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 21, 2018 12:38 PM (8iiMU)

13 Ballsy. I like this. Always go on offense with these people; hit them hard (in their wallets) and keep on hitting them hard until they are bankrupt and living under a bridge.

Posted by: IC at June 21, 2018 12:38 PM (a0IVu)

14 I hope his case isn't based on the claim that he is actually a competent Nazi.

That probably wouldn't play well with the jury.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2018 12:39 PM (jHrzU)

15 punch back twice as hard
Posted by: brak


They bring a knife, you bring an artillery piece.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 12:39 PM (OZZ16)

16 I highly recommend his book

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2018 12:40 PM (O2RFr)

17 Good for him!

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 21, 2018 12:40 PM (zRZaJ)

18 They bring a knife, you bring an artillery piece.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 12:39 PM (OZZ16)

Does a drone equipped with a flamethrower count as an artillery piece?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 21, 2018 12:40 PM (72PAC)

19 "So I think this is a warning, let's say, to other careless
administrators and professors who allow their ideological
presuppositions to get the best of them to be a bit more careful with
what they say and do," he said.

This is not simply a matter of ideology.
The university fops are following the plan set out for them by their Alinsky masters. It's not a got dam coincidence that "nazi" has become the shaming word of choice across the board. It's supposed to keep us deplorables in our place.
Here's to success for Mr. Peterson.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 12:40 PM (Iz8Py)

20 OT, but I love the fact that Melania is visiting McAllen, Texas.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:42 PM (rhdgT)

21 Between this and the SPLC lawsuit its high time the right fought back and used the courts to stop these slanderous hate machines.

Seriously the SPLC is a hate group. They spend their entire operation targeting and attempting to destroy people and groups they do not like using lies and deception. What else do you call that?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 12:42 PM (39g3+)

22 Also, Steve Smith's public denunciation of his Gope affiliation was meant to be an example, to motivate other squishy Gopes to follow his lead.
He didn't need to be all drama queeny about it.
Personally, I don't think he was ever an anti-leftist, it was just his cover. Along with his natasha, Nicole Wallace.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 12:43 PM (Iz8Py)

23 Seriously the SPLC is a hate group. They spend their entire operation targeting and attempting to destroy people and groups they do not like using lies and deception. What else do you call that?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Thursday?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 12:43 PM (OZZ16)

24 Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:42 PM (rhdgT)
She really does love children, and they love her.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 12:43 PM (Iz8Py)

25 Lawsuits and saying no to the lefts insanity is no longer sufficient, for lack of a better construction, we have to find a final solution to the fascism and totalitarianism of the left.

Because they won't stop, they will keep pushing forward until they win.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 21, 2018 12:43 PM (xQUuw)

26 Love how Trump trolled "the Elites" last night...... "I'm smarter than them, better looking, have a better apartment than them, and oh, yeah, I'm President!..."


LOL

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (jjaLl)

27 Do you know who else used to file law suits?!?!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (OLCnA)

28 Take off, eh!

Posted by: Professor Adolf Hitler at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (2Mnv1)

29 20 OT, but I love the fact that Melania is visiting McAllen, Texas.


Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:42 PM



Ditto.
And I am proud of her to be so public after the threats made by dirtbag Fonda.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (0tfLf)

30 It's past time that we dealt with the Maple Menace. They throw migrant kids into jail for months.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (q8F2l)

31 Nazi FASCIST TEABAGGGGGGGGEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

garglegarglegargle

Posted by: Mega at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (Fy2tB)

32 "Steve Smith"

it's German. it's spelled "Schidt".

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (u6geU)

33 I wonder how these sorts of 'defamation' lawsuits work in Canada. Down here, I doubt Peterson's suit would have a prayer, but maybe Canada's laws are more reasonable.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (DXfIG)

34 Yeah this isn't so much people getting "carried away" its a specific and systematic effort to reduce every single person who isn't sufficiently leftist to a nazi monster racist hater in the public eye. This isn't like the past where they'd claim someone was just wrong or mistaken, or had a different viewpoint they disagreed with.

See, all those losers and freaks and human detritus that used to hang out by the bus stop and coffee shops that called people fascists for requiring shoes in their store and nazis for calling the police on their graffiti?

They're in charge of schools, newspapers, movies, even businesses. They took over while we weren't paying attention. So now they use the same idiotic rhetoric... but have the power behind them to make it stick and hurt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 12:45 PM (39g3+)

35
A lawsuit that couldn't be brought or won in the US, I believe. But Canucks have some crazy speech laws, so fight fire with fire Jordan!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2018 12:45 PM (r+sAi)

36 She really does love children, and they love her.
Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 12:43 PM (Iz8Py)
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I think she's probably a quiet, gentle soul and kids can tell that.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:45 PM (rhdgT)

37 Jordan Peterson is trying to separate this University from their money, this is unfair and hurtful.
Registration Closed...

Posted by: Little Green Cucks at June 21, 2018 12:45 PM (yhf6w)

38 The young teaching assistant just announced last week or early this week that she is also suing the school and profs. Interesting.

Posted by: GregV61 at June 21, 2018 12:45 PM (FLpne)

39 Great news!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Coffee drinker at June 21, 2018 12:45 PM (LISuA)

40 reading this made my morning

Posted by: bored383 at June 21, 2018 12:46 PM (zJ4nO)

41 This suit is filed in Canada? Then he will lose.

Posted by: Decaf at June 21, 2018 12:46 PM (/3+Sg)

42 I wonder how these sorts of 'defamation' lawsuits
work in Canada. Down here, I doubt Peterson's suit would have a prayer,
but maybe Canada's laws are more reasonable.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 21, 2018 12:44 PM (DXfIG)



Ask Mark Steyn about Canada's defamation laws..... they are nuts. The Prof stands a good chance of winning.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 12:46 PM (jjaLl)

43 Ah...Lindsey Shepard of the forever furled brow of concern Shepards.
https://tinyurl.com/yablrpto
Yup, like a screen door in a Hurricane.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 21, 2018 12:46 PM (xqfqx)

44 OT, but I love the fact that Melania is visiting McAllen, Texas.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:42 PM (rhdgT)


Oh no I hope she doesn't choose stylish footwear for travel.

That's literally worse than Hitler.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2018 12:46 PM (jHrzU)

45 Oh, and in before the Concern-mongers start broadcasting their lofty principles about misuse of the courts.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 21, 2018 12:46 PM (DXfIG)

46 I barely understand the furor (or fuhrer) over Peterson. I read his book and there was barely anything "right" in it. It was mostly an introduction to classical ways of thinking for those who hadn't been exposed to that sort of thing. Hell, it wasn't even particularly masculine. I think it truly exposes the intellectual bankruptcy of leftist dogma that any level of independent thinking, even non-political, is verboten.

Posted by: Alex #11 at June 21, 2018 12:46 PM (ka13S)

47 Yes. Stand up to, and de-fang, the bullies.

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (/A+Cl)

48 36
She really does love children, and they love her.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 12:43 PM (Iz8Py)

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I think she's probably a quiet, gentle soul and kids can tell that.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:45 PM (rhdgT)
-----------I've always felt, beauty aside, she has a way of making people feel as ease. Kids relate to this right away.

Posted by: IC at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (a0IVu)

49 Meanwhile, in other less-good news, China's navy.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6vtxepa

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Coffee drinker at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (LISuA)

50 #32 It's pronounced scheisse

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (OLCnA)

51 50 #32 It's pronounced scheisse

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM



Snort!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 12:48 PM (0tfLf)

52 What Bluebell said.

Posted by: Muad'dib at June 21, 2018 12:48 PM (sjdRT)

53 What's anti-defamation law like in Canada?

From what I've gleaned of American anti-defamation law, Peterson's a "public person" and is therefore practically free game for any sort of verbal diarrhea.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 21, 2018 12:48 PM (9qZ3S)

54
I think she's probably a quiet, gentle soul and kids can tell that. Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:45 PM (rhdgT)

-----------I've always felt, beauty aside, she has a way of making people feel as ease. Kids relate to this right away.


Posted by: IC at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (a0IVu)


She smiles with her eyes

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 21, 2018 12:48 PM (10vO4)

55 A Hawaiian judge just said he won't allow the law suit

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2018 12:49 PM (OLCnA)

56 Seriously the SPLC is a hate group. They spend their entire operation targeting and attempting to destroy people and groups they do not like using lies and deception. What else do you call that?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Inaccurate. You forgot to add fund-raising. They do quite a bit of that. They've been so successful that they're sitting on a pile of about $500 million.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 21, 2018 12:49 PM (DXfIG)

57 Is that $1.5 Million in loonies or dollars?

If that's Canadian kopecks, it translates to $1,125,914.85 freedom dollars.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 21, 2018 12:50 PM (9qZ3S)

58 49 Meanwhile, in other less-good news, China's navy.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6vtxepa
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Coffee drinker at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (LISuA)

They don't have Space Force, though

Posted by: josephistan at June 21, 2018 12:50 PM (7HtZB)

59 Good for the Perfesser. I guess it will be a Litigious War that will be fought.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2018 12:50 PM (Y9uH4)

60 Meanwhile, in other less-good news, China's navy.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6vtxepa

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Coffee drinker at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (LISuA)

***
No Problem. Two words...Star Force BABY!!

Posted by: dananjcon at June 21, 2018 12:50 PM (xqfqx)

61 the new Puritans, in their witch-burning frenzies

are finding out some of these witches burn back

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at June 21, 2018 12:50 PM (RKQ/v)

62 Love how Trump trolled "the Elites" last night...... "I'm smarter than them, better looking, have a better apartment than them, and oh, yeah, I'm President!..."


LOL

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G)<<<


And "I'm richer than they are".

Ha ha ha, Run Bill run Hill go count your money through gritted teeth.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (U9Qbt)

63 From what I've gleaned of American anti-defamation law, Peterson's a "public person" and is therefore practically free game for any sort of verbal diarrhea.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 21, 2018 12:48 PM (9qZ3S)


I was hoping the Canadian laws would be a bit more rational.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (DXfIG)

64 Ahem...SPACE force baby!

Posted by: dananjcon at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (xqfqx)

65 Sue their sorry communist asses off.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (o2MD2)

66 The statement of claim, prepared by lawyer Howard Levitt and filed Monday, says Peterson was falsely labelled as incompetent, sexist, misogynist, dangerous and racist in a now infamous disciplinary meeting with Wilfrid Laurier University teaching assistant Lindsay Shepherd.

++++

Assuming that was all couched as opinion, the defamation suit would go nowhere in an American court. But, different laws in the Great, White North.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (pvjTE)

67
WaPo says anybody with kid won't be prosecuted on illegal border crossings. I call bullshit on them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2018 12:52 PM (r+sAi)

68 And "I'm richer than they are".



Ha ha ha, Run Bill run Hill go count your money through gritted teeth.



Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (U9Qbt)



Geez, how did I forget that???


Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 12:52 PM (jjaLl)

69 49 Meanwhile, in other less-good news, China's navy.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6vtxepa

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Coffee drinker at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (LISuA)


Meh. We already built one and figured out the economics don't work. At least at this point.



Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2018 12:52 PM (jHrzU)

70 I barely understand the furor (or fuhrer) over Peterson."

I suspect it's because he's "inside the walls" in Academia, and in closed pseudo-religious systems (which is what Academia is, now) "BURN THE HERETIC!!!" always gets people more excited than any other endeavor. Perhaps they are correct to see him as a huge threat, because his very existence inside the walls challenges their own claims to Supreme Moral Authority.

they couldn't care less about what people like us say, because to them we are just Barbarians and are to be ignored. So they hate us, but they don't spend this kind of emotional energy on us. The Heretic, though - BURN HIM!!! BURN!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 12:52 PM (k1TUh)

71 This is OT but in the fighting back category:
Bill Donahue, the head of the Catholic League, is systematically getting advertisers to drop Samantha Bint's show:
Verizon, Wendy's, I forget what the others were. He said his group has standing due to Sam Bint being a virulent anti-Catholic.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 12:52 PM (Iz8Py)

72 "So I think this is a warning, let's say, to other careless administrators and professors who allow their ideological presuppositions to get the best of them to be a bit more careful with what they say and do," he said.
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fuck that bullshit. push for your 1.5 mil, let the judgement against the university be the warning.

I fear that he's just really pushing for a retraction and/or public apology and would call that a win. It isn't.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 21, 2018 12:53 PM (z79tQ)

73 Just load me up with a sack o' Toonies, Eh?

Posted by: Jerdan Peedersin Aboot Town at June 21, 2018 12:53 PM (fiF07)

74 Lawsuits and saying no to the lefts insanity is no longer sufficient, for lack of a better construction, we have to find a final solution to the fascism and totalitarianism of the left.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 21, 2018 12:43 PM (xQUuw)


Can't be done, pardner.

Fascism and Totalitarianism is the Nature of Man. Its just What We Do. History shows that - at least my limited reading of it does. My study of Human Nature shows it.

The more ambitious the Man, the more he'll use any means available to manipulate, coerce, and control those around him.

You want to limit Man's ability to do that shit ? Limit his means, and/or his free time. Whatever you do ... don't build him an apparatus to use. You know ... like a big damn government.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 21, 2018 12:53 PM (fiGNd)

75 That Jordan Peterson.

He's smart.

Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2018 12:54 PM (+lOpA)

76 I fear that he's just really pushing for a retraction and/or public apology and would call that a win. It isn't.
~~~
Agreed. 97% of Lib apologies, aren't really.

Posted by: socalcon at June 21, 2018 12:54 PM (Roy2Z)

77 Excellent!!!


Punch back twice as hard.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2018 12:54 PM (W+vEI)

78 59
Good for the Perfesser. I guess it will be a Litigious War that will be fought.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2018 12:50 PM (Y9uH4)

There's another front that is getting little if no attention: the young persons of coler, as our friend Mary from VT would say. There is a Freethinkers movement that is growing with the yutes, of all colers. But it is the POCs that will make the difference.
I call it the undertow.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 12:55 PM (Iz8Py)

79 Must be something in the water up there in Canada.

https://bit.ly/2KcbPCi

Posted by: Fish Love! at June 21, 2018 12:55 PM (l3N6i)

80 the new Puritans, in their witch-burning frenzies are finding out some of these witches burn back

Also, newts.

Posted by: pep at June 21, 2018 12:55 PM (wW03z)

81 It's probably too late to put my two kopecks in, but I believe the official motto for our shiny new Space Force ought to be:

"It's the only way to be sure."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 21, 2018 12:55 PM (Vq4VW)

82 Peterson posted a video on the lawsuit, which I watched last night.

What this story is missing is the fact that Lindsay Shepherd started this. She is also filling a similar lawsuit and he is copying her suit. His idea is that there is a better chance that one of them win if they both file.

They are also filing for all court costs, which you can do in Canada.

Here's his video (40 minutes):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkNv4LFpGf4

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 21, 2018 12:55 PM (vWMNq)

83 Bluebell, my stepdaughter is in your area for a conference. I hope my husband and I can make it out there again sometime and it would be cool if we could meet up with you. It's been awhile since I've been in that part of the country.

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 12:56 PM (/A+Cl)

84 Bill Donahue is cool, he takes it to 'em with joy.
Are he and Trump cousins?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 12:56 PM (U9Qbt)

85 67
WaPo says anybody with kid won't be prosecuted on illegal border crossings. I call bullshit on them.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2018 12:52 PM (r+sAi)

That troubles me if true.

Posted by: josephistan at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (7HtZB)

86 LOL China will have a railgun when they have a base on the moon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (39g3+)

87 12 Melania should tell the MSM to fuck off in the 6 languages she speaks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 21, 2018 12:34 PM (V+Su2)

That would be so hot.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 21, 2018

*
*
Hotter still would be if Melanie kneed Anderson Cooper in the nuts.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (G+x7t)

88 They're not going to like the new rules, so confident they were that they'd never apply to them.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (TN1P5)

89 69 49 Meanwhile, in other less-good news, China's navy.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6vtxepa

If you read that CNBC article, there's a little thing that is quite comical in their reporting. China's Rail Gun will be ready by 2025!!!! they say. However, the US version of it's railgun is still "Years away" from completion.

How many years, guys? Say, like 7?

and besides, it sounds cool, but isn't that big an improvement in capability. It means a big naval gun can do what a missile can do, at somewhat lower cost. It doesn't add much to the game.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (k1TUh)

90 I was hoping the Canadian laws would be a bit more rational.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (DXfIG)
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Canadian free speech laws are awful. Mark Steyn was involved in a prolonged lawsuit (filed against him) that he eventually won, but it wasn't easy going.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (rhdgT)

91 I think he left off a few zeroes in his ad damnum clause.

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (Fb9aZ)

92 JP seems like a genuinely nice dude, who I wouldn't want to cross.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 12:58 PM (AzW6q)

93 Just load me up with a sack o' Toonies, Eh?

Google tells me a toonie weighs 6.92 grams.

1.5 million / 2 * 6.92 grams = 5190kg = 11,442lbs.

The curb weight of a 2018 Mustang GT is 3,705lbs.

So the sack of toonies would weigh as much as 3.09 Mustang GTs.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 21, 2018 12:59 PM (9qZ3S)

94 The Peterson video is long because he goes into all the abuse Lindsay Shepherd suffered *after* the original incident. I was aware of about half of it. It's worse than you might think.

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 21, 2018 12:59 PM (vWMNq)

95 Okay CanuckOrons, how's Canadian defamation law? More like the US or more like the UK?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 21, 2018 12:59 PM (RD7QR)

96 44 OT, but I love the fact that Melania is visiting McAllen, Texas.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 12:42 PM (rhdgT)

Oh no I hope she doesn't choose stylish footwear for travel.

That's literally worse than Hitler.
Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2018

*
*
If she visited them barefoot, the MSM would say she was culturally appropriating the Mexican "run down the dusty street in no shoes" culture.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2018 12:59 PM (G+x7t)

97 >>"So I think this is a warning, let's say, to other careless administrators and professors who allow their ideological presuppositions to get the best of them to be a bit more careful with what they say and do,"




Heh. Would love to know his temperament when he said that since he does still sound polite, but he definitely gets pissed off at these idiot critics.


Interesting that it is another professor, not an activist or a media person - probably not insignificant (i.e. he understands the campus dynamics of professor like this).

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2018 12:59 PM (W+vEI)

98 Bunch of groups apparently now looking into suing the odious leftist hate group SPLC, after they settled that one case for $3 million. Mo Dees has something like $80 million stashed away, so hopefully even more legal sharks will be circling the waters around that sanctimonious POS now.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 21, 2018 12:59 PM (fqUgw)

99 I barely understand the furor (or fuhrer) over Peterson."

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 12:52 PM (k1TUh)
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He genuinely knows what he is talking about. And he is skilled at weighing and answering questions and making arguments that do not sound like "Up yours, pal".

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2018 01:00 PM (vDqXW)

100 Must be something in the water up there in Canada.

Posted by: Fish Love! at June 21, 2018 12:55 PM (l3N6i)

I was thinking there was something in their water. How else do you explain Justin Trudeau?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 21, 2018 01:00 PM (9BLnV)

101 Should have been $1.5 trillion, or 1 and 1/2 Obama coins ...

Posted by: ShainS at June 21, 2018 01:00 PM (BiLU+)

102 Bluebell, my stepdaughter is in your area for a conference. I hope my husband and I can make it out there again sometime and it would be cool if we could meet up with you. It's been awhile since I've been in that part of the country.
Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 12:56 PM (/A+Cl)
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Oh, do let me know if you are coming out this way! You can always reach me at the cookbook email address.

Your stepdaughter is getting treated to typical June weather here - 90s and thunderstorms one day, 70s the next, etc. I hope she gets a chance to sightsee a little bit if she's interested in that. I know DC is a hellhole but I love the monuments and museums here.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 01:00 PM (rhdgT)

103 Inaccurate. You forgot to add fund-raising. They do quite a bit of
that. They've been so successful that they're sitting on a pile of about
$500 million.----

That the SPLC has parked in offshore accounts.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 21, 2018 01:00 PM (aVYsC)

104 Hotter still would be if Melania kneed Anderson Cooper in the nuts.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (G+x7t)
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She could knee me in the face at the very same time. Two for one.

Posted by: Shep! at June 21, 2018 01:00 PM (AzW6q)

105 Inaccurate. You forgot to add fund-raising. They do quite a bit of that. They've been so successful that they're sitting on a pile of about $500 million.
Posted by: OregonMuse,
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....stashed in offshore accounts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM (1iicH)

106
and besides, it sounds cool, but isn't that big an improvement in capability. It means a big naval gun can do what a missile can do, at somewhat lower cost. It doesn't add much to the game.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (k1TUh)


Yeah it's biggest impact is on the ships survivability.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM (10vO4)

107 In China, they don't have a corruption problem. They don't even have high levels of corruption. In China corruption is simply how things get done, have always gotten done, and always will get done. They don't have any concept of government or business without bribes, kickbacks, extortion, and theft. The only time it gets punished is when someone who is even more crooked wants to get a rival or competitor out of the way.

That's why they build bridges with sections packed with garbage, their pollution is so horrendous, their buildings literally fall over, their waterways are poison, their foods are filled with carcinogens, etc. It doesn't even matter what laws are passed, they are completely ignored for the right price.

I have zero fear of Chinese technology until they can prove unequivocally that they are able to produce and repeatedly produce something impressive. Not a one-off show piece, not a working model, not a video. Actual tech.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM (39g3+)

108 >>The Peterson video is long because he goes into all the abuse Lindsay Shepherd suffered *after* the original incident. I was aware of about half of it. It's worse than you might think.




Ah, will check it out.
So he's throwing down the gauntlet for professors who feel free to harass him and others like him? Excellent!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM (W+vEI)

109 and besides, it sounds cool, but isn't that big an improvement in capability. It means a big naval gun can do what a missile can do, at somewhat lower cost. It doesn't add much to the game.
Posted by: Tom Servo


We need space based lasers or Rods from God.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM (CJOtA)

110 ....stashed in offshore accounts.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM (1iicH)



Who knew poverty was so lucrative?

Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2018 01:02 PM (+lOpA)

111 I'm too lazy to check for sure, but I seem to recall that Lindsay is actually a caring, idealistic liberal. It didn't save her from the lefty totalitarian thought police.

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 01:02 PM (/A+Cl)

112 He genuinely knows what he is talking about. And he is skilled at weighing and answering questions and making arguments that do not sound like "Up yours, pal".
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2018 01:00 PM (vDqXW)

But, that's a favorite argument for the left. In fact, they like to skip the arguing and go straight to the up yours.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 21, 2018 01:02 PM (9BLnV)

113 From the daily caller:
Former Secret Service agent files suit vs Clinton and Co.

It's a good time to be alive.

Posted by: Derptastic at June 21, 2018 01:02 PM (DB16e)

114 Does a drone equipped with a flamethrower count as an artillery piece?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 21, 2018 12:40 PM (72PAC)

Especially at night.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at June 21, 2018 01:02 PM (PbH71)

115

EM CHRUSCIKI FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at June 21, 2018 01:03 PM (mPeei)

116 Seriously the SPLC is a hate group. They spend their entire operation targeting and attempting to destroy people and groups they do not like using lies and deception. What else do you call that?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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There is a reason they sent 100million dollars off shore.

Posted by: simplemind at June 21, 2018 01:04 PM (2v3O+)

117 >>I'm too lazy to check for sure, but I seem to recall that Lindsay is actually a caring, idealistic liberal. It didn't save her from the lefty totalitarian thought police.




She was. She was just trying to provide some balance by showing the short Peterson clip. The audio of her inquisition is amazingly bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2018 01:04 PM (W+vEI)

118 Fascism and Totalitarianism is the Nature of Man. Its just What We Do. History shows that - at least my limited reading of it does. My study of Human Nature shows it.

The more ambitious the Man, the more he'll use any means available to manipulate, coerce, and control those around him.

You want to limit Man's ability to do that shit ? Limit his means, and/or his free time. Whatever you do ... don't build him an apparatus to use. You know ... like a big damn government."

I agree with you completely on that! It was the idea of our founders to try and build a government that was effective, but limited. We've just been too damn good at getting around all of the limitations that were there, and have got no one to blame but ourselves.

There's a reason this is an eternal conundrum that can never be solved, except for short periods of time. The only way to "limit his means" involves the use of compulsive systems that are exactly what we don't want, except without those, man is no longer limited, and he will immediately set about to building them.

God looks down at us, and sometimes he laughs, and sometimes he cries.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 01:04 PM (k1TUh)

119 Name calling and slander. No references, no arguments. And these people are academics.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2018 01:04 PM (/qEW2)

120 Hotter still would be if Melanie kneed Anderson Cooper in the nuts.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (G+x7t)

Then dug one of those skyscraper stilettos into his instep.
"And then turn your pretty head and walk a - way-y-y"

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 01:04 PM (Iz8Py)

121 Canada has libel laws that give this guy an edge, but in the USA, probably not.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 21, 2018 01:04 PM (ujg0T)

122 If you claim watching a video debate, in a college classroom does you irreparable mental damage, you literally need to be institutionalized, along with the administrators, who patronize you juvenile delusions.

Posted by: TJ at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (Etpgd)

123 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM (39g3+)
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Well said.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (U9Qbt)

124 113 From the daily caller:
Former Secret Service agent files suit vs Clinton and Co.

It's a good time to be alive.
Posted by: Derptastic at June 21, 2018

*
*
From The Daily Caller, November 2018:

Former Secret Service Agent Dies in Strange Fiery Crash
Clinton Lawsuit Dropped

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (G+x7t)

125 I do think a drone-borne flammenwerfer is more the province of combat engineers than artillerists... But that's just an opinion.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (Vq4VW)

126 We need space based lasers or Rods from God.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM (CJOtA)

The Paolo is familiar with such a rod.

Posted by: The Paolo at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (7HtZB)

127 "gender and equity manager". I don't even want to know.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (/qEW2)

128 4 Annoying pseudo-paywall to the article. Deal-breaker for me.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at June 21, 2018 12:32 PM (XELll)

So?
Ace reported the important things.

The rest is just fluff.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (wT8T7)

129 Peterson espouses classical liberal values, so he ain't no conservative wonder. However, when confronted with perfectly sensible values as these, todays leftist piece of shits go crazy on him. He has proven, or shown, in stark living color, how demented the leftists have become.


That is what he is bringing to the table. Plus, if you have never seen his disassembly of the BBC skank, DuckDuckGo it and watch in rapt fascination.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (Y9uH4)

130 Bluebell, I was wondering what the weather was like in June. I assumed hot and muggy.

Yes, I would definitely get in touch if we travel in your area; thank you for the welcome. My husband and I have really enjoyed meeting Hordelings when we travel.

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (/A+Cl)

131 86 LOL China will have a railgun when they have a base on the moon.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 12:57 PM (39g3+)

...

No, they'll have a railgun exactly like ours six months after we finish.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 21, 2018 01:06 PM (yL25O)

132 67
WaPo says anybody with kid won't be prosecuted on illegal border crossings. I call bullshit on them.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
_________________________

That was true during the Obama administration, which is why we suddenly got "surges" of kids coming across the border, and why there were also surges of kids being bought, sold, kidnapped, etc., south of the border by adult criminals who wanted to use the kids as shields for themselves when crossing the border illegally.

Trump has said everybody illegally crossing will be prosecuted, and he's still saying that. If we do it any other way, then we're creating incentives for these kids to be used and abused, which is what the left claims they don't want.

Of course, they're lying about that, as they lie about everything.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 21, 2018 01:06 PM (fqUgw)

133 I dunno how Canadian defamation laws work, but he'll have a hard time proving damage. If anything, the event might have increased his visibility and audience since controversy sells.

In the US, this probably wouldn't work but if Canada has the motherland's defamation laws which are *much* looser than in the US, he probably has a shot. He'd be a slam dunk winner in the UK if he didn't have all the wrong opinions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2018 01:06 PM (I2dne)

134 He genuinely knows what he is talking about. And he is skilled at weighing and answering questions and making arguments that do not sound like "Up yours, pal".
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2018 01:00 PM (vDqXW)
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His biggest crime is being effective.

Part of that is the competence and knowledge. But part of it is is refusal to back down, and part is the ability to connect with people. Millions of people, and young ones, and outside the media's chain-of-command.

While they couldn't be more different, his "crime" is the same as Milo's - he's stealing their young skulls full of mush, and they can't just ignore him and make him go away.

So they go on the offensive.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 01:06 PM (AzW6q)

135 My husband and I have really enjoyed meeting Hordelings when we travel.
Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (/A+Cl)


And so far, not a single axe-murderer among them!

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 01:07 PM (/A+Cl)

136 63 From what I've gleaned of American anti-defamation law, Peterson's a "public person" and is therefore practically free game for any sort of verbal diarrhea.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 21, 2018 12:48 PM (9qZ3S)

I was hoping the Canadian laws would be a bit more rational.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (DXfIG)

++++

Even if that same speech was directed against a non-public figure in America, it still wouldn't make it as defamation. You are allowed to state your opinion about things in America. If I say of you that I have heard the way you speak to women (assuming that's true), and that it seems to me you have a disrespectful attitude when talking to them, and therefore you are a sexist - that's not defamation. It's stupid, but it is opinion, so allowed.

On the other hand, if I claim I saw you kicking a dog, that's a factual assertion. Assuming it's untrue, it's defamation.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 21, 2018 01:07 PM (pvjTE)

137 I agree with you completely on that!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 01:04 PM (k1TUh)


Well Tom ... I'm not much on formalities ... so I'll get right down to it.

You're fucked.

Never agree with me two threads in a row. That's bad juju. Your Karmic Futures are down - bigly.

In time, if you lay low, this will blow over. But, at least for now, tread lightly.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 21, 2018 01:07 PM (fiGNd)

138 >>But, that's a favorite argument for the left. In fact, they like to skip the arguing and go straight to the up yours.




Peterson talks circles around them and they haaaate it, particularly since he is a old school liberal.

He is *not* a conservative, he's one of them, yet they have to label him a alt-right Nazi to justify hating him, mischaracterize what he says, because they cannot deal with the real Peterson, his legit opinions and arguments.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2018 01:08 PM (W+vEI)

139 49 Meanwhile, in other less-good news, China's navy.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6vtxepa
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Coffee drinker at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (LISuA)



Is anyone else reminded of the old "Spaceship Yamato" anime from this article?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 21, 2018 01:08 PM (ujg0T)

140 "Democrats are causing destruction and pain and they know it." _PDT

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:08 PM (U9Qbt)

141 OT, but I think we can solve the whole border crisis by allowing simply everyone who wants to, to come in.

Once they go through processing.

And then make that processing a part of the local DMV.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 21, 2018 01:09 PM (yL25O)

142
I dunno how Canadian defamation laws work, but he'll have a hard time proving damage. If
Since his employer is the one who defamed him, couldn't the damages be that his classes would be cancelled due to lack of enrollment by young skulls full of mush who were alienated by the false nazi charge?
Maybe there's some clause in the shitbag university's policy that prevents the shitshow administrators from impugning the motivations of its faculty?
Just spitballin here.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 01:09 PM (Iz8Py)

143 At the link the video moves into the university authorities' inquisition of the TA.
I had read it before but had not HEARD it.
Chilling.
Absolutely chilling.

And that young woman, who was in tears, still had the guts to stick to her principles.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 21, 2018 01:09 PM (0jtPF)

144 125
I do think a drone-borne flammenwerfer is more the province of combat engineers than artillerists... But that's just an opinion.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 21, 2018 01:05 PM (Vq4VW)

This.Plus what kind of self respecting cannon-cocker wants to use a flamethrowing drone when they can vaporize you with a 155 from 25 miles away?

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 21, 2018 01:09 PM (37IEG)

145 A railgun is a beautiful anti-ship and shore installation weapon, it delivers incredible power for not a lot of cost. That's ideal for a fixed, large target

The problem is, that's all its good for. It is basically impossible to use to hit things over the horizon, it has to be aimed by turning the ship (a huge step back in development), and it isn't any use against anything significantly mobile.

So neat idea for some applications (hitting big space ships, for instance) but very limited in the real world. Its like the carbon rod bombardment idea (used in GI Joe): neat concept but really not very useful in 99.9% of situations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:09 PM (39g3+)

146 Emmie, June is usually pretty nice here. Actually it's rare for it to get into the 90s in June. July and August, for sure.

It does tend to rain rather a lot in the late spring here, but that makes everything very green and pretty. And the rain is usually in the form of thunderstorms, which don't last all that long but do drop a lot of water.

Right now it's sunny and 79 at my house. Zero complaints!

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 01:10 PM (rhdgT)

147
Who knew poverty was so lucrative?
Posted by: eleven
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Honestly, while every principled fiber of my being harbors contempt for them, it's difficult not to admire people who have worked up a scam that costs *nothing*, does *nothing* material, and yet brings in hundreds of millions of dollars. I mean, they are even less engaged than the Clinton Foundation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2018 01:10 PM (1iicH)

148 Who knew poverty was so lucrative?
_________________

Helps when you have stupid, clueless, but filthy rich leftard celebrities like George Clooney throwing millions your way.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 21, 2018 01:10 PM (fqUgw)

149 Space Force is too limiting. Our new military branch should be called Star Force.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:11 PM (U9Qbt)

150 Space Force is too limiting. Our new military branch should be called Star Force.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:11 PM (U9Qbt)


How will they ever slap down a friggin' Challenge Coin while wearing a space-suit in zero gravity ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 21, 2018 01:11 PM (fiGNd)

151 I have zero fear of Chinese technology until they can prove unequivocally that they are able to produce and repeatedly produce something impressive. Not a one-off show piece, not a working model, not a video. Actual tech.

I was always amused by this Chinese boat launch video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFo8Yy6FZlI

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (k1TUh)

152 Peterson espouses classical liberal values, so he ain't no conservative wonder. However, when confronted with perfectly sensible values as these, todays leftist piece of shits go crazy on him.

As someone posted a few weeks ago here, he's simply presenting what everyone has always known, and those are things that have been declared hatefacts and disallowed by the radical modern left.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (39g3+)

153 Jordan Peterson is Milo, without the fabulousness... and the patience to hit back where hitting back will be effective.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (9chmE)

154 We need space based lasers or Rods from God.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 01:01 PM


You want Rods from God.
You'd settle for Bods from Gal Gadot
You'll get Bobs from NSA.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (ctuyM)

155 And that young woman, who was in tears, still had the guts to stick to her principles.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 21, 2018 01:09 PM (0jtPF)

And so another classical liberal academic is red-pilled.
That lib professor at Evergreen U learned the hard way as well. All he did was express objection at the idea of a non-white attendance day at his school and bat wielding demons were unleashed on him.
I wonder what old school liberal Ivanka is thinking now about her "tolerant" friends?

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (Iz8Py)

156 Meanwhile, in other less-good news, China's navy.

China, innovate?

I'll believe THAT when I see it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (oVJmc)

157 WaPo says anybody with kid won't be prosecuted on illegal border crossings. I call bullshit on them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk

____________________

I read somewhere that would be the case temporarily, until such time as they would have systems and facilities to hold families.

Posted by: Javems at June 21, 2018 01:13 PM (lhn63)

158 Meanwhile, in other less-good news, China's navy.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6vtxepa

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Coffee drinker at June 21, 2018 12:47 PM (LISuA)


Oh, the railgun again? Great science fiction theory, but very hard to get to work in the real world of traversing and elevating in a corrosive environment that is subject to shock effect. The catapult versions on the Ford-class still aren't right and those are comparatively simple being fixed in the deck and not requiring the same level of acceleration.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordion Band! at June 21, 2018 01:13 PM (hLRSq)

159 New rules, baby. New rules. Sue those commies into the poorhouse.

Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (xjiRE)

160
Space Force is too limiting. Our new military branch should be called Star Force.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:11 PM (U9Qbt)


Did somebody already call dibs on Starfleet?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (10vO4)

161 Right now it's sunny and 79 at my house. Zero complaints!
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2018 01:10 PM (rhdgT)


Sounds lovely! Last time I was there I was young enough that I didn't pay attention to heat and humidity. I love the eastern US in spring and fall.

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (/A+Cl)

162 Honestly, while every principled fiber of my being harbors contempt for them, it's difficult not to admire people who have worked up a scam that costs *nothing*, does *nothing* material, and yet brings in hundreds of millions of dollars. I mean, they are even less engaged than the Clinton Foundation.

What happened to The Center Science in the Public Interest? Remember, those were the guys that would put out reports on how something people liked was actually bad for you like clockwork, about every two or three months. Wheat will kill you. Apples give you cancer. Feeding children causes them to get leprosy. Every few months, another absurd claim that the news guys could not wait to rush to proclaim as the voice of God.

They kind of disappeared, where did they go? Did everyone just finally figure out they were totally contradictory and full of crap?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (39g3+)

163 I dunno how Canadian defamation laws work, but he'll
have a hard time proving damage. If anything, the event might have
increased his visibility and audience since controversy sells.



In the US, this probably wouldn't work but if Canada has the
motherland's defamation laws which are *much* looser than in the US, he
probably has a shot. He'd be a slam dunk winner in the UK if he didn't
have all the wrong opinions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2018 01:06 PM (I2dne)


All this speculation... how about someone ask Mark Steyn how those laws work.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (9chmE)

164 "The problem is, that's all its good for. It is basically impossible to use to hit things over the horizon, it has to be aimed by turning the ship (a huge step back in development), and it isn't any use against anything significantly mobile."


The dynamite cruiser USS Vesuvius.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Vesuvius_(188

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordion Band! at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (hLRSq)

165 Posted by: Bob from NSA at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (ctuyM) <<<


Hi Bob, longtime no see.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM (U9Qbt)

166 Wheat will kill you. Apples give you cancer. Feeding children causes them to get leprosy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (39g3+)


Know what's really a bitch ? Starvation.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM (fiGNd)

167 China, innovate?

I'll believe THAT when I see it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (oVJmc)
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Yeah. They hate innovation at a basic cultural level. They seem to be trying to get over it, but it's millennia worth of sclerosis to overcome.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM (AzW6q)

168
That is what he is bringing to the table. Plus, if you have never seen his disassembly of the BBC skank, DuckDuckGo it and watch in rapt fascination.
Posted by: Jak Sucio
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I think that was where he said something like, "Look, if you want people to respect you and your opinion, then don't say things that make you look stupid."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM (1iicH)

169 Just the words "Chinese Navy" don't make any real sense. Its like the Namibian Air Force or Military Intelligence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM (39g3+)

170 As someone posted a few weeks ago here, he's simply presenting what everyone has always known, and those are things that have been declared hatefacts and disallowed by the radical modern left.
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correction: hatefacts disallowed by the radical post-modern left.

Also, by definition, they aren't leftists in that a left is part of a nation, as is the right. They are anarchists who believe there should be no nation but their should be a government capable of giving them things they want. Try and square that circle if you can.

Posted by: Gumby at June 21, 2018 01:16 PM (2LelM)

171
Good for Dr. Peterson. Hopefully, this is the beginning of a wave of lawsuits against Progs.


Now what we need to start doing is pressing charges against the Pantifa-type protestors under 18 US Code 241 every time they manage to emerge from their two mommies' basement.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 21, 2018 01:16 PM (HaL55)

172 I read somewhere that would be the case temporarily, until such time as they would have systems and facilities to hold families. "

Yeah, looked it up. Roughly, at this time there's detention space for about 3200 family units, and it's mostly full, and there are about 400 more coming in per week. So, for a bit there is no room to put them, and they get lucky. BUT efforts are now being made to add space as quickly as possible, and as it is added new entries will be placed there.

This is one of the main reasons Cruz was adamant that the amount of time taken to process them be as short as possible - it's absolutely impossible to keep them if you're going to take a year before you do a hearing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 01:17 PM (k1TUh)

173 They kind of disappeared, where did they go? Did everyone just finally figure out they were totally contradictory and full of crap?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (39g3+)


Must be alive and well - my son's high school career center just sent an email about job opportunities with them.

I think they are volunteer jobs to go get petitions signed.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2018 01:17 PM (jHrzU)

174 colleges and universities are basically overpriced daycare centers

Posted by: TJ at June 21, 2018 01:17 PM (Etpgd)

175 They are anarchists who believe there should be no nation but their should be a government capable of giving them things they want. Try and square that circle if you can.

I think they are not anarchists, but feudalists. They want to be landed lords in city states, surrounded by serfs working farms and making the civilization that they as lords demand, without anyone else getting the benefits because its been declared doupleplus ungood for the environment.

They get cell phones, you work int he mines to gather the minerals cell phones need. They get electrical power and lightning fast internet, you work in the power plants to produce it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (39g3+)

176 Horde PSA: There are two kinds of ships:

1. Submarines.

2. Targets.

That is all.

Posted by: 1120 at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (ctuyM)

177 174 colleges and universities are basically overpriced daycare centers
Posted by: TJ at June 21, 2018 01:17 PM (Etpgd)

...

They know the parents will spend any amount of money not to have to live with their annoying liberal spawn any longer.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (yL25O)

178 Space Force is too limiting. Our new military branch should be called Star Force.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:11 PM (U9Qbt)


Did somebody already call dibs on Starfleet?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic



StarLords. The mascot can be a raccoon.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (CJOtA)

179 A Former Secret Service Agent for the Clintons has brought a lawsuit against them, their foundation, David Brock, Soros, etc. RICO seems to be the basis. I don't know much about it but he said that he can't get heard through the media so he will be heard through the courts.

Posted by: Cheri at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (oiNtH)

180 93 Just load me up with a sack o' Toonies, Eh?

Google tells me a toonie weighs 6.92 grams.

1.5 million / 2 * 6.92 grams = 5190kg = 11,442lbs.

The curb weight of a 2018 Mustang GT is 3,705lbs.

So the sack of toonies would weigh as much as 3.09 Mustang GTs.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 21, 2018 12:59 PM (9qZ3S)


They promised me!

No math!

Arrgghh!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (wT8T7)

181 I'm assuming Peterson's main offense is that he has not yet abandoned common sense.

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (/A+Cl)

182 Trump is not the only one fighting back!!
The left is NOT going to like the new rules.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (pw+jk)

183 OT Trump in Duluth says to protestor with "man bun" (or douche donut as I call it) "Is that a man or a woman? He needs a haircut more than I do". LOL. I wish I could have gone. Too fckn funny. MAGA, suck it libs! Unhinged fcks.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (QDaCe)

184 Yeah, looked it up. Roughly, at this time there's detention space for about 3200 family units, and it's mostly full, and there are about 400 more coming in per week. So, for a bit there is no room to put them, and they get lucky. BUT efforts are now being made to add space as quickly as possible, and as it is added new entries will be placed there.


Area 51

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (CJOtA)

185 Space Force is too limiting. Our new military branch should be called Star Force.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:11 PM

I am so in.

Posted by: Kodai at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (p+Wdc)

186 I just spent my lunch break reading a rolling stone interview of Johnny Depp discussing his financial issues in depth. Man, celebrities are not well adjusted people.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (mk7Bj)

187 I read somewhere that would be the case temporarily, until such time as they would have systems and facilities to hold families.
Posted by: Javems at June 21, 2018 01:13 PM

You're gonna need a bigger cage.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (2NqXo)

188 Building an aircraft carrier is one thing , building a working carrier is another.
And knowing how to use it is on another level entirely.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (37IEG)

189
Just the words "Chinese Navy" don't make any real sense


It's actually worse than that. The official tittle is PLAN(The Peoples Liberation Army Navy)

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (10vO4)

190 OT Trump in Duluth says to protestor with "man bun" (or douche donut as I call it)


Twat knot.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 01:21 PM (CJOtA)

191 Space Force is too limiting. Our new military branch should be called Star Force.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:11 PM (U9Qbt)

There is certainly more Space than there are Stars. Plus, it will be centuries before we can fight stars. Unless we want to attack the Sun. Hmmm, it might be good practice.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 21, 2018 01:21 PM (9BLnV)

192 No matter how much money you make, if you are a stoned idiot you'll always spend it faster.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:22 PM (39g3+)

193 I hope Dr. Peterson gets filthy rich off lawsuits like this & retires to his own private island. & builds an island lair with a swimming pool full of sharks & commies to throw in it.

Oh, & yeah: secret passages. Every idea of a dream home I've ever had comes with secret passages. Because cool.

Posted by: troyriser at June 21, 2018 01:22 PM (Um8ak)

194 OT Trump in Duluth says to protestor with "man bun" (or douche donut as I call it)


Twat knot.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 01:21 PM


Oh I am stealing that one. Some restaurant in Duluth took a bunch of heat for hosting Fox and Friends. Seriously, fuck these people. Maybe we should boycott airports because they show PNN.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 21, 2018 01:23 PM (QDaCe)

195 I don't understand the allure of a greasy, ill kept man bun. Having long hair is a lot of work.

Posted by: IC at June 21, 2018 01:23 PM (a0IVu)

196 Related: I remember during the recent Kanye-troversy, the libs making a big deal about the fact that he could be seen to have a Jordan Peterson (Nazi!) lecture up on his computer, during one of his videos. Kanye's lost it! He's listening to that NazEEEE!!!!1!!11

How many people do ya figure watched their first JP video 'cause of that?

It's weird to me, to think about non-trivial numbers of people being introduced to mind-expanding intellectual material by Kanye freakin' West.

We live in interesting times...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 01:23 PM (AzW6q)

197 Come in through corridor 'A' to reception area 'B' where you will be finger printed, photographed, and DNA sampled, then exit through corridor 'C' to the bus marked 'Mexico'.

Adios.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:23 PM (U9Qbt)

198 And so far, not a single axe-murderer among them!

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2018 01:07 PM (/A+Cl)



Challenge Accepted!

Posted by: The Horde at June 21, 2018 01:23 PM (jjaLl)

199 Area 51

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (CJOtA)

FEMA camps?

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 01:23 PM (Iz8Py)

200 "Report to Congress on U.S. Navy Lasers, Railgun and Gun-Launched Guided Projectiles", May 24, 2018

https://bit.ly/2MKpDm8

Posted by: just plain facts at June 21, 2018 01:24 PM (l3N6i)

201 >> colleges and universities are basically overpriced daycare centers


That's pretty much all public funded schooling.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2018 01:24 PM (ogl5q)

202 Space Force is too limiting. Our new military branch should be called Star Force.


Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:11 PM
I am so in.


Posted by: Kodai at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (p+Wdc)


Come on, you maggots! What, you want to live forever??

Posted by: Johnny Rico at June 21, 2018 01:24 PM (9chmE)

203 Looked up that page on the USS Vesuvius, interesting, I'd never heard of it! Actually very innovative for 1888, that's some real Steam Punk there.

I was amused to see how the ship came to its end - it had been converted to an early Torpedo testing ship, and in 1915 it launched a torpedo that "Ran a circular course and punctured the hull". Fortunately the Captain was able to run the ship aground before it sank under the water, so no lives were lost. But that was the end of the Vesuvius - sunk by its own action.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (k1TUh)

204 I just spent my lunch break reading a rolling stone interview of Johnny Depp discussing his financial issues in depth. Man, celebrities are not well adjusted people.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM

He had so much money coming in he could've set it up so that even his great-grandkids would be lighting cigars with hundred-dollar bills but instead he went on an extended spending spree that wiped him out.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (2NqXo)

205 Just the words "Chinese Navy" don't make any real sense. Its like the Namibian Air Force or Military Intelligence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM


Ya, mon.

Posted by: The Jamaican Bobsled Team at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (p+Wdc)

206 As someone posted a few weeks ago here, he's simply
presenting what everyone has always known, and those are things that
have been declared hatefacts and disallowed by the radical modern left.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (39g3+)

What are your thoughts on Peterson's position that the greatest challenge we face today is the wealth gap?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (UBzPO)

207 Yeah. They hate innovation at a basic cultural level. They seem to be trying to get over it, but it's millennia worth of sclerosis to overcome.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM (AzW6q)

They love inovation, just prefer to steal it!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (JFO2v)

208 Oh, & yeah: secret passages. Every idea of a dream home I've ever had comes with secret passages. Because cool.
Posted by: troyriser at June 21, 2018 01:22 PM (Um8ak)
----
Douglas Carlston, the CEO of Broderbund software, has mansion with thousands of feet of secret passages and catacombs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (AzW6q)

209 >You'd settle for Bods from Gal Gadot

You'll get Bobs from NSA.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (ctuyM)


I would certainly settle gladly for Bods from Gal Gadot. She even makes a stillsuit look hawt.

Posted by: Muad'dib at June 21, 2018 01:26 PM (sjdRT)

210 I don't understand the allure of a greasy, ill kept man bun. Having long hair is a lot of work.


Posted by: IC at June 21, 2018 01:23 PM


Maybe the "Ettes" can weigh in. I don't know any women who think it's hot. I just think it's funny that Trump mocked him for it. LOL. I had friends who went, I am swamped with work, but now I am regretting not going.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 21, 2018 01:26 PM (QDaCe)

211 201 >> colleges and universities are basically overpriced daycare centers

That's pretty much all public funded schooling.
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2018 01:24 PM (ogl5q)



"I've been fobbed off, and I've been fooled
I've been robbed and ridiculed
From day care centers to night schools
Handle me with care"--George Harrison in his Traveling Wilbury days

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 21, 2018 01:26 PM (ujg0T)

212 >>I was amused to see how the ship came to its end - it had been converted to an early Torpedo testing ship, and in 1915 it launched a torpedo that "Ran a circular course and punctured the hull".


In Australia, torpedo sink you!

Posted by: Crocodile Dundee at June 21, 2018 01:26 PM (ogl5q)

213 He needs a cool moniker...like JPat for short

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (h/uSM)

214 "What happened to The Center Science in the Public Interest? "

That was only lile four people and a fax machine. I think they either moved on to other causes or all died.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (t9n/3)

215 Building an aircraft carrier is one thing , building a working carrier is another.
And knowing how to use it is on another level entirely.


Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (37IEG)

As proven by the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y89sp8w5

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (aVYsC)

216 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 21, 2018 01:09 PM (0jtPF)
And so another classical liberal academic is red-pilled.
That lib professor at Evergreen U learned the hard way as well. All he did was express objection at the idea of a non-white attendance day at his school and bat wielding demons were unleashed on him.
I wonder what old school liberal Ivanka is thinking now about her "tolerant" friends?


Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM



Meanwhile, a huge downturn in application to Evergreen U. Layoffs continuing!!!
ha!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (0tfLf)

217 Horde PSA: There are two kinds of ships:



1. Submarines.



2. Targets.



That is all.

Posted by: 1120 at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (ctuyM)



First thing we learned in Sub School......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (jjaLl)

218 Douglas Carlston, the CEO of Broderbund software, has mansion with thousands of feet of secret passages and catacombs.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (AzW6q)

Living the dream. *sigh*

Posted by: troyriser at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (Um8ak)

219 Building an aircraft carrier is one thing , building a working carrier is another.
And knowing how to use it is on another level entirely.

Posted by: Damnedyankee <<<


Why build one when you can buy a used Russian carrier pretty cheap.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (U9Qbt)

220 He had so much money coming in he could've set it up so that even his great-grandkids would be lighting cigars with hundred-dollar bills but instead he went on an extended spending spree that wiped him out.
=========
Its almost as if "a fool and his money are soon parted" is for real . . .

Posted by: simplemind at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (7S2Ry)

221 You want SDF Macross
You'd settle for the Colonial Marines from Aliens
You'll get Rich Evans as Space Cop

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (NL6wI)

222 214 "What happened to The Center Science in the Public Interest? "

That was only lile four people and a fax machine. I think they either moved on to other causes or all died.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (t9n/3)



I think a lot of Ralph Nader scams are finally dying off.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (ujg0T)

223 170---They are anarchists who believe there should be no nation but there should be a government capable of giving them things they want. Try and square that circle if you can.
Posted by: Gumby at June 21, 2018 01:16 PM (2LelM)
----------------------------------------
A house built on sand.

In the immortal words of the late Leonard Cohen:
And if you call me brother now,
Forgive me if I ask,
"According to whose plan?"

When you have a ruling class that despises God, there is no brotherhood under the Creator.
When you have a ruling class that rejects the very concept of nationality, there is no solidarity in citizenship. When you have a ruling class that declares abortion to be a sacred 'right,' there is no compelling bond of family.

On what moral basis can you demand ANY sacrifice for the supposed good of others?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (0jtPF)

224 >> There are two kinds of ships:


Relationships?

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (ogl5q)

225 Leaf on Leaf violence.

*rubs hands together*

Excellent.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (E4NQ0)

226 >Why build one when you can buy a used Russian carrier pretty cheap.





Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (U9Qbt)


The Chinese did buy at least 1 used Russian carrier.

Posted by: Muad'dib at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (sjdRT)

227 169 Just the words "Chinese Navy" don't make any real sense. Its like the Namibian Air Force or Military Intelligence.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM (39g3+)

The Namibian Air Force relies on Chinese aircraft, notably their knock off of the Russian MiG-21. So it all comes full circle.

Posted by: josephistan at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (7HtZB)

228 Maybe the "Ettes" can weigh in. I don't know any
women who think it's hot. I just think it's funny that Trump mocked him
for it. LOL. I had friends who went, I am swamped with work, but now I
am regretting not going.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 21, 2018 01:26 PM (QDaCe)
I'm a woman and certainly don't find it hot at all. And so far, all the guys I have talked to who have a man bun (small sample size admittedly) have not exactly impressed me with their towering intellect.

Posted by: IC at June 21, 2018 01:29 PM (a0IVu)

229 >>Its almost as if "a fool and his money are soon parted" is for real . . .






Hush now, you!

Posted by: Amber Heard, who's good at dating rich men and spending money at June 21, 2018 01:30 PM (W+vEI)

230 The Chinese did buy at least 1 used Russian carrier.
Posted by: Muad'dib at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (sjdRT)
----
The Varyag.

Kuznetsov class.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 01:30 PM (AzW6q)

231 203 Looked up that page on the USS Vesuvius, interesting, I'd never heard of it! Actually very innovative for 1888, that's some real Steam Punk there.

I was amused to see how the ship came to its end - it had been converted to an early Torpedo testing ship, and in 1915 it launched a torpedo that "Ran a circular course and punctured the hull". Fortunately the Captain was able to run the ship aground before it sank under the water, so no lives were lost. But that was the end of the Vesuvius - sunk by its own action.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (k1TUh)


==============

The Navy was a whole lot more friendly to innovation compared to the Army. They had repeating rifles (1879 Lee Remingtons) decades before the Army.

Posted by: Jackal at June 21, 2018 01:30 PM (hFYKc)

232 165 Posted by: Bob from NSA at June 21, 2018 01:12 PM (ctuyM)


Hi Bob, longtime no see.


Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM



Not for Bob.

***checks tape over computer camera***

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 01:30 PM (0tfLf)

233
What are your thoughts on Peterson's position that the greatest challenge we face today is the wealth gap?
==
That's NOT what I said.

Posted by: J. Peterson at June 21, 2018 01:30 PM (7S2Ry)

234 What are your thoughts on Peterson's position that the greatest challenge we face today is the wealth gap?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (UBzPO)

---

Technology/Automation is going to keep making more functioning people unemployable. That's a problem.

what do you do when there is no job a 90 IQ person can do as well as a machine?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 21, 2018 01:31 PM (h/uSM)

235 >> I don't know any women who think it's hot.



Nope, dirty man bun (along with likely stench of BO + weed) is not hot.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2018 01:32 PM (W+vEI)

236 There are two kinds of ships:





Relationships?

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (ogl5q)



Diabetics alert!!!! LOL

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 01:32 PM (jjaLl)

237 The Navy was a whole lot more friendly to innovation compared to the Army. They had repeating rifles (1879 Lee Remingtons) decades before the Army.
Posted by: Jackal

it helps when the item is a relatively minor acquisition. For the army, it's one of it's biggest expenses. For the navy, some boarding parties.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 21, 2018 01:32 PM (q8F2l)

238 But that was the end of the Vesuvius - sunk by its own action.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (k1TUh)

---

sucks

Posted by: Richard O'Kane at June 21, 2018 01:32 PM (h/uSM)

239
On what moral basis can you demand ANY sacrifice for the supposed good of others?
=====
Of course we make no demands on a Moral basis. Our demands are based upon force alone.

Posted by: Facism with a Smiley Face at June 21, 2018 01:32 PM (7S2Ry)

240 On what moral basis can you demand ANY sacrifice for the supposed good of others?



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 21, 2018 01:28 PM (0jtPF)




On the pronouncements and decrees of Pope Steven Colbert I.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 01:33 PM (Iz8Py)

241 So what you're saying is, you oppose Academic freedom and student safety?

Posted by: Cathy Newman at June 21, 2018 01:33 PM (AzW6q)

242 217 Horde PSA: There are two kinds of ships:



1. Submarines.



2. Targets.


That is all.

Posted by: 1120 at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (ctuyM)


First thing we learned in Sub School......


Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM



I was born in Groton...grew up hearing this. 'Ol man was in subs for 19 of his 20 years beginning in '37. Fascinating stories.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 01:33 PM (0tfLf)

243 Oh, the railgun again? Great science fiction theory, but very hard to get to work in the real world of traversing and elevating in a corrosive environment that is subject to shock effect.

---------------

I will say this - these are the Chinese. A highly expensive weapon that requires major overhaul / part replacement at very short intervals is not big deal.

The people aren't permitted to feel like the government's money is being wasted.

Posted by: reason at June 21, 2018 01:33 PM (W2YA6)

244 Nope, dirty man bun (along with likely stench of BO + weed) is not hot.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2018 01:32 PM (W+vEI)
And halitosis. gross.

Posted by: IC at June 21, 2018 01:33 PM (a0IVu)

245 On the pronouncements and decrees of Pope Steven Colbert I.

I'd love to see Colbert on Jeopardy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2018 01:34 PM (oVJmc)

246 Why build one when you can buy a used Russian carrier pretty cheap.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:27 PM (U9Qbt)

We pretty much beat the living snot out of the only other people who truly understood working aircraft carriers. The Brits sort of understand, but....not really.

But all this talk of navies brings to mind the perennial threat from the brown-water ski-boat Iranian navy that they're going to deploy their destroyer from the Persian Gulf out onto a real ocean and cruise across the Atlantic to the East Coast of the United States.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 21, 2018 01:34 PM (37IEG)

247 What are your thoughts on Peterson's position that the greatest challenge we face today is the wealth gap?

I think when Peterson gets off of revealed wisdom and traditional truths, he gets into trouble, like his flights of fancy about the Bible or his attempt to create an ethical system without any ethical foundations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:34 PM (39g3+)

248 Yeah. They hate innovation at a basic cultural level. They seem to be trying to get over it, but it's millennia worth of sclerosis to overcome.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2018 01:15 PM (AzW6q)


If it were merely a question of culture, their totalitarian government should be able to change that overnight. Analogous to what Reagan said, that our value of liberty can be lost in a single generation. You'd think an attachment to stasis and stability could also be lost in a generation.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2018 01:35 PM (/qEW2)

249 They kind of disappeared, where did they go? Did everyone just finally figure out they were totally contradictory and full of crap?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:14 PM (39g3+)

So weird, I was just wondering about them the other day as I contemplated ordering Chinese.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 21, 2018 01:35 PM (MX7xj)

250 136 63 From what I've gleaned of American anti-defamation law, Peterson's a "public person" and is therefore practically free game for any sort of verbal diarrhea.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 21, 2018 12:48 PM (9qZ3S)

I was hoping the Canadian laws would be a bit more rational.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 21, 2018 12:51 PM (DXfIG)

++++

Even if that same speech was directed against a non-public figure in America, it still wouldn't make it as defamation. You are allowed to state your opinion about things in America. If I say of you that I have heard the way you speak to women (assuming that's true), and that it seems to me you have a disrespectful attitude when talking to them, and therefore you are a sexist - that's not defamation. It's stupid, but it is opinion, so allowed.

On the other hand, if I claim I saw you kicking a dog, that's a factual assertion. Assuming it's untrue, it's defamation.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 21, 2018 01:07 PM (pvjTE)

Thank you for the explanation. But does this mean that blatent lies are just protected opinions? Is that how the Left has succeeded because there's no way to stop them from spreading false labels?

Posted by: Iris at June 21, 2018 01:35 PM (dYDe7)

251 The Chinese did buy at least 1 used Russian carrier.

Posted by: Muad'dib <<<


Yeah, and after years of rehab the first sea trials went rather remarkable - in a negative way.
Same for their sub, I think.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:35 PM (U9Qbt)

252
I'd love to see Colbert on Jeopardy.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2018 01:34 PM (oVJmc)

He actually said that Trump's border EO doesn't get him off the "moral meathook".

So I guess Pope Steve is the moral authority now, speaking ex cathedra on his clown car show.

Posted by: kallisto at June 21, 2018 01:35 PM (Iz8Py)

253 175
I think they are not anarchists, but feudalists....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:19 PM (39g3+)
---------------------------
Um, no.
Feudalism, at least in the West, was based on contract, custom, and RECIPROCAL obligations.

What we're seeing is more like satrapies of an empire.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 21, 2018 01:36 PM (0jtPF)

254 I was born in Groton...grew up hearing this. 'Ol
man was in subs for 19 of his 20 years beginning in '37. Fascinating
stories.



Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 01:33 PM (0tfLf)



Groton was great..... I'm going to assume your Dad was in from ...'87?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 01:36 PM (jjaLl)

255 But they've got that AK down pat.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:36 PM (U9Qbt)

256 (Waving hands furiously)





Bonzo was the worst Nazi ever!

Posted by: Koko at June 21, 2018 01:36 PM (ymnmz)

257 193 I hope Dr. Peterson gets filthy rich off lawsuits like this & retires to his own private island. & builds an island lair with a swimming pool full of sharks & commies to throw in it.

Oh, & yeah: secret passages. Every idea of a dream home I've ever had comes with secret passages. Because cool.
Posted by: troyriser at June 21, 2018 01:22 PM (Um8ak)

Funny thing? Petersen is NOT a Conservative.

Not even close.

He is a Classic Liberal.

but the Left is now calling the Classic Liberals, Nazis....

Posted by: Less Nessman? at June 21, 2018 01:37 PM (NgKpN)

258 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 21, 2018 01:37 PM (72PAC)

259 what do you do when there is no job a 90 IQ person can do as well as a machine?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 21, 2018 01:31 PM (h/uSM)

I've worked as a manual laborer, literally ditch-digging and hod-carrying-type jobs, as well as other strong back, weak mind kinds of jobs that human labor-replacing machines won't be cost-effective for in the foreseeable future. Honest work is honest work. People willing to work will find those jobs.

Posted by: troyriser at June 21, 2018 01:37 PM (Um8ak)

260 I thought I specified 'working' aircraft carrier? No?

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 21, 2018 01:37 PM (37IEG)

261 That's NOT what I said.

Posted by: J. Peterson at June 21, 2018 01:30 PM (7S2Ry)

It most certainly is. He repeats it whenever given the chance. That wealth inequality is the greatest threat we face as a society and the greatest threat to capitalism. He's not talking about land owners or business people who've earned a few million, he's talking about the creation of over 500 billionaires and several thousand more approaching a billion, most created from the 2008 bailouts when they should've gone to prison instead.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 21, 2018 01:38 PM (UBzPO)

262 But that was the end of the Vesuvius - sunk by its own action.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (k1TUh)



---



sucks

Posted by: Richard O'Kane at June 21, 2018 01:32 PM



Could be worse.

Posted by: The Edmund Fitzgerald at June 21, 2018 01:38 PM (p+Wdc)

263 234 What are your thoughts on Peterson's position that the greatest challenge we face today is the wealth gap?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (UBzPO)

---

Technology/Automation is going to keep making more functioning people unemployable. That's a problem.

what do you do when there is no job a 90 IQ person can do as well as a machine?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 21, 2018 01:31 PM (h/uSM)

Machines and automation will take the jobs of lawyers and doctors in the near future. There are plans via Charter Schools for computers to replace all teachers in the near future. I read about it here in Georgia. Former DoD wrote a paper on it for Georgia Charter Schools citing its already happening in many other states and this IS the future.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 21, 2018 01:38 PM (E4NQ0)

264 Feudalism, at least in the West, was based on contract, custom, and RECIPROCAL obligations.

Sure, in theory the landed lords were to protect the serfs but they think they do. They just have a different set of values and things they protect from. They protect people from overpopulation, environmental damage, social injustice, nationalism, that kind of thing.

They think they ARE carrying out noblesse oblige.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:38 PM (39g3+)

265 If it were merely a question of culture, their totalitarian government should be able to change that overnight. Analogous to what Reagan said, that our value of liberty can be lost in a single generation. You'd think an attachment to stasis and stability could also be lost in a generation.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear <<<


Taylor nailed it upthread, they are so corrupt they defeat themselves.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 21, 2018 01:38 PM (U9Qbt)

266 239---Of course we make no demands on a Moral basis. Our demands are based upon force alone.
Posted by: Facism with a Smiley Face at June 21, 2018 01:32 PM (7S2Ry)
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BINGO!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 21, 2018 01:39 PM (0jtPF)

267 I'm a woman and certainly don't find it hot at all. And so far, all the guys I have talked to who have a man bun (small sample size admittedly) have not exactly impressed me with their towering intellect.


Posted by: IC at June 21, 2018 01:29 PM (a0IVu)


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I'm a dude that used to have hair long enough to pull back.

There was one occasion and one occasion only that I ever did what could even remotely considered a "man bun," and this was when I was doing yard work, and the entire mess of hair was being injected to the confines of a hat.

This was, to put into Mil-speak, a "ferry-configuration" only. Not for deployment.

Appropriate, as dudes who display their man-bun are in fairy-configuration as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: reason at June 21, 2018 01:39 PM (W2YA6)

268 Groton was great..... I'm going to assume your Dad was in from ...'87?


Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 01:36 PM


He enlisted in 1936 and went to torpedo school. His only surface cruise was aboard the old Lexington. After that he qualified for subs. Was on the Cachelot at Pearl Harbor and did a lot patrols throughout the war in a number of boats.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 01:39 PM (0tfLf)

269 I was born in Groton...grew up hearing this. 'Ol man was in subs for 19 of his 20 years beginning in '37. Fascinating stories.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 01:33 PM (0tfLf)

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Huh. Lived most of my formative years in Ledyard. Worked part time jobs on base in HS.

Which brings me to my next point: Groton has an actual revolutionary fort, yet instead of having fireworks there on July 4, they would have "Groton Week" and do fireworks a week early or later or whatever.

Except you could be celebrating your nation's founding on an actual sacred battleground.

But no.

Groton Week.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 21, 2018 01:39 PM (yL25O)

270 But all this talk of navies brings to mind the perennial threat from the brown-water ski-boat Iranian navy that they're going to deploy their destroyer from the Persian Gulf out onto a real ocean and cruise across the Atlantic to the East Coast of the United States.

Posted by: Damnedyankee

Imagine that cruise, under active radar lock the entire time. Between that and no technical support whatsoever, it should be an exciting cruise.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 21, 2018 01:40 PM (q8F2l)

271 That's NOT what I said.

Posted by: J. Peterson at June 21, 2018 01:30 PM (7S2Ry)

It most certainly is. He repeats it whenever given the chance.
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First, you are supposed to read that in Jordan Peterson's voice, because every single time is interviewed by anyone he says this like half a dozen to 100 times. Its humor, but its also true.

he is very precise about what he says and the way he says things and he encourages you to listen carefully. So, never mind, wrong audience.

Posted by: simplemind at June 21, 2018 01:40 PM (pxIck)

272 264
Sure, in theory the landed lords were to protect the serfs but they think they do. They just have a different set of values and things they protect from. They protect people from overpopulation, environmental damage, social injustice, nationalism, that kind of thing.

They think they ARE carrying out noblesse oblige.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2018 01:38 PM (39g3+)
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That's not what feudalism was all about.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 21, 2018 01:43 PM (0jtPF)

273 He enlisted in 1936 and went to torpedo school. His
only surface cruise was aboard the old Lexington. After that he
qualified for subs. Was on the Cachelot at Pearl Harbor and did a lot
patrols throughout the war in a number of boats.



Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2018 01:39 PM (0tfLf)


Holy shit that's impressive! The men that served on the first classes of subs are heroes in my book, with balls of freakin steel. And in the War no less!
The Carver's keel was laid in '64 or so, I was on it from 87-90 and it was the lap of luxury compared to what your Dad served on. Hat's off to him!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 21, 2018 01:43 PM (jjaLl)

274 First, you are supposed to read that in Jordan
Peterson's voice, because every single time is interviewed by anyone he
says this like half a dozen to 100 times. Its humor, but its also true.



he is very precise about what he says and the way he says things and
he encourages you to listen carefully. So, never mind, wrong
audience.

Posted by: simplemind at June 21, 2018 01:40 PM (pxIck)

I've watched hundreds of hours of Peterson. Hundreds. He is very clear about it. I only mention it because it's the antithesis of what we're supposed to believe as conservatives but I can't help but agree with him after what we saw following 2008. If things go the way I expect them to in the next 20 years the offspring of those sociopaths will be lording over us.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 21, 2018 01:44 PM (UBzPO)

275 208 Douglas Carlston, the CEO of Broderbund software, has mansion with thousands of feet of secret passages and catacombs containing the bones of his enemies.

fixt, 'cause what else are catacombs for?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 21, 2018 01:45 PM (NmR1a)

276 Watching Melanie on FBN. She is a natural. Beauty, charm, personality, and charisma in one package

Posted by: Soona at June 21, 2018 01:47 PM (Fs5vw)

277 I've watched hundreds of hours of Peterson.
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Humor is good for you. Give it a try.

Posted by: simplemind at June 21, 2018 01:50 PM (66r14)

278
267 There was one occasion and one occasion only that I ever did what could even remotely considered a "man bun," and this was when I was doing yard work, and the entire mess of hair was being injected to the confines of a hat.

so, more of a topknot, then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chonmage

The chonmage is a form of Japanese traditional topknot haircut worn by men ... It was originally a method of using hair to hold a samurai helmet steady atop the head in battle, and became a status symbol among Japanese society.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 21, 2018 01:51 PM (NmR1a)

279 183 OT Trump in Duluth says to protestor with "man bun" (or douche donut as I call it) "Is that a man or a woman? He needs a haircut more than I do". LOL. I wish I could have gone. Too fckn funny. MAGA, suck it libs! Unhinged fcks.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM (QDaCe)


I was cheered by that, and retrospectively somewhat embarrassed by my Minnesota bashing. The Minnesotans I know here are all from Minneapolis, and are all relentlessly loony leftist.

So, my apologies. I hadn't realized that the problem was localized in the state, and I should have, because California has the exact same distribution. Absent SF and LA, the state is pretty conservative.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 21, 2018 01:58 PM (L+DZm)

280 204 I just spent my lunch break reading a rolling stone interview of Johnny Depp discussing his financial issues in depth. Man, celebrities are not well adjusted people.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 21, 2018 01:20 PM

He had so much money coming in he could've set it up so that even his great-grandkids would be lighting cigars with hundred-dollar bills but instead he went on an extended spending spree that wiped him out.
__________________

Lisa Marie Presley is in the same boat. She had ownership of Elvis Presley Enterprises that was valued at $100 million. She should have been set for life, but she sold 85% of her Elvis holdings to re-fund the trust fund Elvis had left her and which she had depleted with her extravagant spending. After the sale, she again pissed away most of her principal (which, if managed conservatively, should have been enough to give her a couple of million in discretionary income per year, without ever touching the principal). Now she's suing her money manager, she's got millions in debt, and she has an ex-husband (with whom she had a post-nuptial agreement) suing her for alimony payments.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 21, 2018 01:58 PM (fqUgw)

281 What are your thoughts on Peterson's position that the greatest challenge we face today is the wealth gap?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 21, 2018 01:25 PM (UBzPO)

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Its bullshit. Its more stoking the fires of coveting.

Our poverty level is at the 95th percentile of incomes world wide. 95th. We are so prosperous as a nation, our "poor" check the balance of their SNAP cards thru an app on a $300.00 smart phone.

Through market forces, we as a nation, HAVE eliminated true poverty.

Wealth gap is a red herring. Its a tool to confiscate from the top. But somehow that confiscation never quites gets to the bottom, now does it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 21, 2018 01:58 PM (8XRCm)

282 I assume the purpose of a man bun is to give the wearer's boyfriend something to grip to guide him when he's fellating the boyfriend.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 21, 2018 01:59 PM (L+DZm)

283 Its bullshit. Its more stoking the fires of coveting.

Our poverty level is at the 95th percentile of incomes world wide. 95th. We are so prosperous as a nation, our "poor" check the balance of their SNAP cards thru an app on a $300.00 smart phone.

Through market forces, we as a nation, HAVE eliminated true poverty.

Wealth gap is a red herring. Its a tool to confiscate from the top. But somehow that confiscation never quites gets to the bottom, now does it.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 21, 2018 01:58 PM (8XRCm)


This.

There is no poverty in the U.S. Sure, people have less than others, but anyone who has a cell phone, a microwave, a color TV, cable, designer sneaks, etc. is NOT poor. Something like > 95% of households have color TVs (I looked it up once, but don't remember exactly). Being envious of what others have does not in itself mean you're poor.

Poor means you lack food, clothing, shelter. If you have those, you're not poor. I've traveled extensively in the Third World, and THERE you see real, no-shit poverty.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 21, 2018 02:03 PM (L+DZm)

284 The interrogation of Lindsey Shephard was enlightening to say the least. I marveled at innumerable points at the intolerant Groupthink, the wholesale antithesis of scholarly and academic freedom, the innate oppressive bias of the professors, the blinding arrogance of insular scolds, and the all-encompassing terror Jordan Peterson instills in the academics' bubble. There are days worth of posts wrapped in that video and that all derives simply from a mere five minute excerpt of JP via a TA who thinks university is a place to challenge ideas.

Holy cow what a freakin' mess. I find the University rather, oh what's the word... "problematic".

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 21, 2018 02:16 PM (H8S+R)

285 just when I think I can't possibly admire Jordan Peterson any more intensely.
Hand to God, he must clank when he walks.
Swoon.

Posted by: vivi at June 21, 2018 03:08 PM (11H2y)

286 I love children....with grill marks and corn on the cob.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 21, 2018 03:09 PM (Kuu/n)

287 Unfortunately, this is being done in a Canadian (Kangaroo) Kourt, Mr. Peterson will be lucky to avoid prison.

Posted by: Enkidu at June 21, 2018 08:16 PM (hY0DH)

288 >>>two of its professors and a former gender and equity manager for suggesting he was analogous to Adolf Hitler



of course the two professor and gender and equity manager are analgous to Ernst Rohm, if Rohm had been a fat bull dyke instead of a fat fag.

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