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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Sunday Morning Book Thread 05-13-2018![]() Arthur Conan Doyle Room, Toronto Reference Library Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which are ugly enough, but the clunky shoes make her look like a modern-day version of Olive Oyl. Pic Note Elementary: It takes a shrewd detective to find one of the world’s foremost collections of library materials devoted to the life and work of Arthur Conan Doyle and his Sherlock Holmes stories. Tucked away on the top floor of the Toronto Reference Library, the Arthur Conan Doyle Room is one of the city’s best-kept secrets.(h/t James Verpoten) It Pays To Increase Your Word Power® NYINGIE-NYANGIE is an old Scots word for a manoeuvring back and forth. Usage: "These brave men have chosen death -- by nyingie-nyangie." Amazon: Bring Out Your Dead (Clang!) With all the used bookstores closing, I was surprised when a friend told me about an offshoot of Books-A-Million. They're buying and selling books, games, CD's, etc. Here's the link, which also has a locations tab to see if there's one near Moron or Oaf habitats.She's referring to 2nd & Charles, which buys and sells used books, CDs, vinyl, games, toys, musical instruments, video games, and more. According to the locations page, the franchises are located mostly in the Eastern states, with a few in Texas and Colorado. Might be worth checking out if you live near one their outlets. None Dare Call It Censorship ![]() When reviewers first saw Keira Drake’s The Continent, this story of a teenager trapped by a war between two “native” tribes quickly found attention on social media – though not much of it was good. This young adult novel was attacked for its “white saviour narrative” and its stereotypical portrayal of people with “reddish-brown skin” or “almond-shaped eyes”. The author Justina Ireland called it a “racist garbage fire”.Oh dear. What to do? Drake apologised, said she would “address concerns about the novel”, and delayed the release. Her publisher, Harlequin Teen, sent the book out to two “sensitivity readers”, who vetted the manuscript for stereotypes, biases and problematic language. Armed with a list of potential problems and possible solutions, Drake went back to the drawing board.Yes, there are actually people who hire themselves out as "sensitivity readers" to make sure that all of the right gender and ethnic diversity boxes are checked off. Unlike Drake, some authors hire them proactively to head off the SJW howling mobs: Anna Hecker, whose young adult novel When the Beat Drops is published in May, says she first contacted sensitivity readers after two rounds of edits with her publisher. Her protagonist, Mira, is mixed-race – half Caucasian, half African-American – and Hecker is not.The sensitivity readers hotly deny that what they're doing constitutes censorhip, but it sounds like that's because they merely lack the requisite muscle to enforce their decisions. One erstwhile sensitivity reader describes why she quit being one: “I quit doing them because they were exhausting and sometimes authors wanted to argue with me,” she says. “They weren’t open to the feedback. They weren’t trying to understand the feedback. They were insisting on the rightness of what they were writing.”I fail to see the problem here. She was hired to read a manuscript and provide feedback. Which she did. And she was paid for her work. There was (presumably) nothing in her contract about being given veto authority over content. She sounds more like a frustrated totalitarian than a manuscript reader. Besides, we already have "sensitvity readers", and always have. They're called "readers." And they enforce their decisions through something called "the market", i.e. if a book is lousy, they won't buy it. Nobody wants to buy crappy books. Another Guardian piece on the subject actually makes some good points: There’s a thin line between combing through manuscripts for anything potentially objectionable to particular subgroups and overt political censorship. Is it any longer acceptable for characters to be bigoted? Can a character in your novel vote for Brexit? And if all the characters speak with the same courtesy, and voice the same standard left-of-centre views, contemporary fiction can’t hope to contribute to the understanding of a world that elects Donald Trump. Fiction won’t help younger readers to make sense of their real lives, if in books Muslim men never groom white girls or become radicalised through the internet, transsexuals never regret transitioning or conclude they’re actually gay, women are always confident and empowered, and the terminally ill are always brave (or whatever they’re supposed to be; ask the experts). These days, with all hell breaking loose in Europe and the US, the left’s sensitivity run amok seems to be coexisting in a bubbled‑off alternative universe.If everybody is thinking the same way, then nobody is really thinking at all. Moron Recommendation 173...A guy by the name of Traphes Bryant wrote a book many years ago about his time as the dog keeper of the White House (Dog Days at the White House). A really great read and something I've read over and over again.I think Dog Days at the White House: The Outrageous Memoirs of the Presidential Kennel Keeper is long out of print, but you can get used copies via Amazon for as little as $2. So the culture at the JFK White House appears to have been quite libertine. Thw WH press corps must certainly have known about it. It doesn't sound like something that could be kept secret, what with naked people walking around and all. Naturally, they never bothered to report on it. You'd think that such goings-on would be newsworthy, but perhaps I'm just mistaken. ___________ Moron ibguy writes to tell me: Last summer, a dear friend and mentor passed away. Stuart was a physicist and student of theology, interested in exploring the relationship of science with religion, particularly Judaism. For many years, he had talked about publishing his writings, but never got around to it. So to honor his legacy, I have (with permission from all involved).The book is titled 'A Scientist In Search of God. From the blurb: Collected works of Dr Stuart Fickler. Melding science and religion, Dr Fickler brings physics and Judaism together. A noted scientist on a lifelong search to reconcile his rational, scientific self with his spiritual side. Written in a variety of (online) media, these essays reflect his journey, and his passion. This book’s purpose is to serve as his written legacy. The hardcover version is available at cost (~$14 + shipping) and also as a free download (pdf): Hardcover: http://www.lulu.com/content/hardcover-book/a-scientist-in-search-of-god/22852432 eBook: http://www.lulu.com/content/e-book/a-scientist-in-search-of-god/22852595 Did I mention the .pdf version is FREE? ___________ Books By Morons Moron lurker and author Mark Hudson outed himself on votermom's Goodread's group. Here's his Amazon page. Mark has written a number of books. He didn't mention any one in particular, so I'll just grab one to talk about. An Emerald Abyss: A Gordan Hudde Novel is a political thriller about disappearing veterans, featuring former US Army Ranger and current CIA operative Gordan Hudde: Veterans have given their all for this country; the veterans administration seems to be failing them and far too many are committing suicide every day.You should read Mark's bio over on his Amazon page. He sounds like an interesting guy. ___________ Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde. ___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2018 08:52 AM (aC6Sd) 2
I've been plugging this bad boy in the comments and I think I reviewed it, but here is Razib Khan with a fuller review of Kyle Harper, The Fate of Rome.
tinyurl.com/y8y9hja3 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 08:56 AM (6FqZa) 3
Am reading Patrick O'Brien' Treason Harbour of the Aubrey/ Maturin series.
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2018 08:56 AM (aC6Sd) 4
Fox News Sunday with Mike Pompeo. Discussing North Korea. Posted by: Forgot My Nic at May 13, 2018 08:57 AM (LOgQ4) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 08:58 AM (RJcOX) 6
Top 10
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 13, 2018 08:58 AM (89T5c) 7
Fuck you sensitivity readers. Fuck writers that use sensitivity readers.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 08:59 AM (JFO2v) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 09:00 AM (RJcOX) 9
Yay Book Thread !
Unfortunately, its arrival has coincided (as it often does) with Mrs Eez invoking the Honey-Do list. Best regards, and a happy Mothers Day to all moms here ! bbl ? Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 13, 2018 09:00 AM (BU61H) 10
Dr Fickler brings physics and Judaism together.
I'd love to see how he does that. Plenty of apologists have tried to do this with the Old Testament alone (Old Testament because these apologists were Protestant Christians) but I was never impressed with their efforts. Judaism of course brings a vast store of rabbinic tradition to the interpretation of - for them - the Torah, and secondarily the Prophets. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 09:00 AM (6FqZa) 11
Really like the McDonnell Dublin Trilogy of 4 books.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 09:01 AM (JFO2v) 12
Glad we didn't have to move all those books yesterday when stripping my book shelves.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:02 AM (mpXpK) 13
I've been on a bit of a binge of reading about explorers lately. I re-read Morehead's The White Nile, and now I'm reading an old book called They Found The Buried Cities, by Robert Wauchope. It's about explorers in Central America -- including lots of excerpts from their journals or published accounts. Wauchope himself was an archaeologist, and the whole first chapter is a detailed account of how to do an expedition in the 1930s.
One thing which struck me was the endless delays. You show up in Merida or Campeche or wherever and (of course) you need official permission to go wandering around the interior digging up ruins. But the governor's away for two weeks, so the intrepid explorers wind up cooling their heels until he returns. I think people then had more patience. Modern travellers get apoplectic if the Starbucks barista takes too long mixing a latte. Posted by: Trimegistus at May 13, 2018 09:02 AM (kk0lv) 14
I am currently working on a re-read of the Honor Harrington series by Weber.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:03 AM (mpXpK) 15
Confined to bed, not at Mass this morning (sad to say) so I can comment here for once.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh I usually do the Vigil Mass on Saturday night. I got taken short up in Longmont last night, low on petrol, so I attended there. Then I get a whole Sunday to rest up. Or, if I miss the Saturday, to attend whichever one I can. Yay book thread. Thank you for putting this together Mr Muse. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 09:03 AM (6FqZa) 16
I believe the correct response to the censors (if you deign to give one) is "Your concern is noted," like is done with any other sort of concern troll.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Lift Your Spirits with The Hymns of James Comey from the Outrage Outlet! at May 13, 2018 09:03 AM (0QYMt) 17
I am told by my betters that you can't be a good scientist unless you're an atheist. So, Bad scientists: Michael Faraday, James Clark Maxwell, Henry Eyring, Gerhard Ertl. Good scientists: Trofim Lysenko, Elena Ceaucescu. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 09:04 AM (RJcOX) 18
Yes, there are actually people who hire themselves out as "sensitivity
readers" to make sure that all of the right gender and ethnic diversity boxes are checked off. Unlike Drake, some authors hire them proactively to head off the SJW howling mobs: I don't understand why people that these AH's harass don't just tell them KMA and go to Hell. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:05 AM (mpXpK) 19
Good morning fellow Book Threadists and Happy Mothers Day as it applies. We have a cool, steady rain here so outdoor plans are shelved but it is great weather for reading. The coffee is hot. The percolator burner is turned off (always double check that). Now for the content.
Posted by: JTB at May 13, 2018 09:07 AM (V+03K) 20
Good morning. I'm doing the final read-through/nitpick of my own novel, "Karidach's Daughter," and also working on maps and putting the cover art (which is gorgeous) through the right incantations and wizardry, so that the color will come out right.
If you're wondering, Why maps? - the whole thing is set in what is now Western Russia in the 10th century, using the old names for the towns and other locations, and without a map most readers won't know what/where I'm talking about. This is a sensitivity-reader-free production, though husband and daughter did a lot of proofreading. Having been working on the story for twenty-plus years (really) I was so sick of it that I could hardly bear to look at it anymore, and six eyes are much better than two when it comes to catching errors and omissions. It's going straight to Kindle - not bothering with attempting to find an actual book publisher since there are no transgender characters - will let you know when it's available. Posted by: Annalucia at May 13, 2018 09:07 AM (S6ArX) 21
Personally I like "sensitivity readers" if they have insight on how a character of another race or (especially) sex might react to events. I do emphasise "might" because NAXALT. But badly-written female characters are a plague in male-written works and vice versa.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 09:08 AM (6FqZa) 22
Prayers for healing hadrian and for you too om.
A Happy Mother's Day to all. I thought YA novels were all written-by-committee anyway. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2018 09:08 AM (EZebt) 23
So the culture at the JFK White House appears to have been quite libertine.
Of course it was. He and Robert were doing everyone in sight. There have been many stories from ex-SS agents about letting the floozies in the back doors to do the Kennedy clan. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:08 AM (mpXpK) 24
Morning Readers, and Happy Mothers Day!
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 09:09 AM (MVjcR) 25
I read When Christ and His Saints Slept by Sharon Kay Penman. Recommended here many times over many years, the book did not disappoint. Penman tell the story of the civil war of succession after Henry I of England dies, leaving his daughter, Maude, as his successor; but before she can return to England from France, her cousin, Stephen, is crowned as King because many powerful men did not want to be ruled by a woman. (Hillary wasn't the first!) This led to a 14-year bloody civil war. Full of intrigue, more than a few double-crosses, battle scenes, and a few love stories, Penman brings these times to life in this very worthwhile book.
I also read Jupiter Myth by Lindsey Davis, the fourteenth in the Falco series. It's 75 A. D. and Falco, an investigator for the Roman Emperor, is on holiday in Britain with his wife, Helena. Helena's uncle Frontinus is the governor of Britain, and when a nobleman is murdered, he calls upon Falco to solve the case. The investigation soon uncovers a large-scale racketeering operation in Londinium and pits Falco against an old foe from Rome. The reader learns a little about early London under Roman rule. Posted by: Zoltan at May 13, 2018 09:09 AM (RKP6T) 26
Arthur Colon Doyle - a limerick The Upset Tummy he penned And it comes with a twist at the end He finally solves the question Of what causes indigestion "It is alimentary my friend! Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 09:09 AM (m45I2) 27
The tradition continues:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bowdler I just find it so unutterably sad -- and these self-righteous scolds don't even realize what intellectual mutation and stunting they are marketing. Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 09:09 AM (MIKMs) 28
I don't understand why people that these AH's harass don't just tell them KMA and go to Hell.
They are definitely in their rights to tell them politely, okay, I agree on this bit; but for the rest of it, no, this particular character isn't you, so stop trying to make it you, KMA and go to Hell. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 09:10 AM (6FqZa) 29
More libraries need to look like Henry Higgin's digs. This one lacks a sense of continuity. The carpet is from hunger. And wtf is up with the pair of 17th c joint benches ? Are there no decent cabinetmakers in Canada ?? They ended up going to Ikea for the shelves. Not even Ace would stoop that low
Posted by: REDACTED at May 13, 2018 09:11 AM (Ymy4N) 30
Bolton beating on Tapper over the Norks. Prelude to Pompeo on the major Sunday Morning Shows.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 09:12 AM (pV/54) 31
Mike Pompeo on Fox News Sunday seems upbeat about North Korea. The leftists are gonna go ballistic when Trump returns from summit with a deal. A huge deal. Posted by: Forgot My Nic at May 13, 2018 09:13 AM (LOgQ4) 32
30 Bolton beating on Tapper over the Norks. Prelude to Pompeo on the major Sunday Morning Shows.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 09:12 AM (pV/54) I always ask my Dad why he banged on me so much "Cause it's easy, dipshit" Posted by: REDACTED at May 13, 2018 09:13 AM (Ymy4N) 33
Because of the "million to one chance" reference to Pratchett's "Guards! Guards!" I've been reading some more Pratchett. I find him an interesting read although many pages seem like filler to me, they're still readable, and then, and fairly frequently, he throws a really clever hilarious page or two!
Also now have read the first three novels in Estleman's Valentino series (mentioned a while back here), as usual, good dialog and characters. Sometimes, I think I might have OCD tendencies then I tell myself nah that can't be true. After a couple of days of this reinforcement I've convinced myself that I'm a normal reader after all. For Moronish types in NoVA, there is a treasure in Manassas known as Richard McKay Used Books. It's catch as catch can but they have a wide variety at excellent prices. I've also found that AbeBooks.com has an excellent selection of used books (some very obscure) and almost always cheaper than Amazon's used book dealers. Everything I've gotten from them has been in either good enough or excellent condition. Sadly they don't do anything but print media. Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 09:14 AM (n9EOP) 34
Just as an observation on good scientist = atheist and bad scientist = believer. How on earth do they square the circle of life with Darwin (believer)?
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 09:14 AM (MIKMs) 35
My wife's been telling me horror stories for the past few years about how pervasive SJW politics have become. Join a FB writing group if you want to see these idiots in action. Sensitivity readers are a routine demand made of authors, experienced and new.
The cost of getting a book out the 'approved' is absurd considering the likely return on investment. Even if you go through a traditional publisher, the out of pocket expense for the author is insane. Posted by: alskari.sarum@gmail.com at May 13, 2018 09:14 AM (kzS7W) 36
In American English, maneuver is the standard spelling of the word... Manoeuvre is the preferred spelling throughout the rest of the English-speaking world. Maneuver and manoeuvre are pronounced the same, and they share all their definitions.
-Grammarist (link in nic) True fact: In the Quebec, it is pronounced "manure." Posted by: Gramma Grammerly at May 13, 2018 09:15 AM (ECLlc) 37
Arthur Conan Doyle the Barbarian In the Hyborian Age, a young Cimmerian unleashes the God of Mystery, Shar-Lok while searching for the Fairies of Kotin Glea. Meh. I got nuthin'. Reading about Option Trading this week....Interesting in an uninteresting way. Posted by: naturalfake at May 13, 2018 09:16 AM (9q7Dl) 38
I second Comrade Hrothgar's mention of "AbeBooks." Great for stuff which will never be digitized, such as nineteenth-century bound volumes of Punch magazine.
Posted by: Annalucia at May 13, 2018 09:16 AM (S6ArX) 39
Howdy, beloved Horde!
Yesterday I discovered that my niece has become quite the accomplished illustrator. I knew she had talent, and she is really honing her skills in college. Anyway, I told her I knew some writers who sometimes need book jackets designed and asked if could promote her here. She says she'd appreciate it. This is one of my relatives who I have always felt might enjoy the HQ because she is highly intelligent and would enjoy the intellectual stimulation here. I have not referred her here before because, uh, it gets a little bawdy sometimes. -- So Niece, whatever you do, NEVER click a link in the comments. If you don't know what something is, NEVER look it up in the Urban Dictionary. These things cannot be unseen. Trust your aunt on this. -- Here is her site: awkwarddesigner.com Posted by: Mindy again at May 13, 2018 09:18 AM (/A+Cl) 40
On book 4 of "The Hangman's Daughter" series.
The Poisoned Pilgrim I highly recommend the series. This book takes place in June of 1666 in Germany. I am not normally a reader of historical fiction but someone here (thanks by the way) suggested "The Hangman's Daughter" and I'm very happy they did. Check them out. Posted by: weirdflunky at May 13, 2018 09:18 AM (VLHlQ) 41
mustbequantum : Darwin isn't nearly the problem for the more militant atheists that Newton is. Darwin was a moderate. Newton wasn't just a believer; he was a fanatic.
Newton's specific beliefs were near-autistic, from what I could tell, and very weird, but that's by the way. As for how the atheists deal with Newton, I think they just keep his scientific and mathematic findings separate from his philosophical musings. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 09:18 AM (6FqZa) Posted by: micky at May 13, 2018 09:19 AM (dF9Lb) 43
too soon?
Posted by: micky at May 13, 2018 09:19 AM (dF9Lb) 44
right, windows 10 update about to start, read y'all later morons
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 09:20 AM (6FqZa) 45
Haven't been reading much this week between work (ugh) and finishing up a short story submission for Oren Litwin's project. Scratch a Moron, and you'll find a frustrated author wannabee, it seems. We shall see what happens.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 13, 2018 09:21 AM (lApJ5) 46
If George Orwell had hired Arnold Ziffel as a sensitivity reader, "Animal Farm" might have turned out quite differently.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2018 09:21 AM (sdi6R) 47
I dunno, bth, modern internet interactions seem to assign more weight to Darwin, probably because none of them can read or understand Newton.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 09:22 AM (MIKMs) 48
Your mere description of the YA books is triggering me.
*stamps foot, scrunches up face* I expect now that you have had this corrective feedback of thought by a more woke mind, you will remove the offending paragraphs, and possibly this whole column. Posted by: Hypersensitive Reader with a manbun at May 13, 2018 09:23 AM (ECLlc) Posted by: josephistan at May 13, 2018 09:25 AM (ANIFC) 50
I'm leaving through the owners manual for my tractor, something I almost never do. Already have some ideas for circumventing the safety features.
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 09:26 AM (MVjcR) 51
right, windows 10 update about to start, read y'all later morons
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 09:20 AM (6FqZa) It's working now, ain't it? Block the update. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2018 09:26 AM (WFV7d) 52
Leaving = leafing.
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 09:27 AM (MVjcR) 53
Other projects taking up time this week; continued reading various books on the American Revolution, including one about the experiences of captured Hessians in the Colonies ...
For leisure reading, I pulled a volume of Sharon McCrumb's short stories from my shelves; Foggy Mountain Breakdown. I had forgotten how very good she is, at short form. Posted by: Sgt. Mom at May 13, 2018 09:27 AM (xnmPy) 54
"If everybody is thinking the same way, then nobody is really thinking at all."
Hear! Hear! So say we all! . . . wait a minute.... Posted by: The Mass of Humankind at May 13, 2018 09:27 AM (ECLlc) 55
I'm leaving through the owners manual for my tractor, something I almost never do. Already have some ideas for circumventing the safety features.
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 09:26 AM (MVjcR) A farmer I know told me that the first half to full day he spent with new equipment was disabling all the safety features so he could use the darn thing efficiently! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 09:28 AM (n9EOP) 56
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY to all of the moms here.
Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 09:28 AM (+UJer) 57
I'm hearing this Win10 thing. It's teh awesome. Like pulling away from XP awesome. 7 is about as close.
For Dell's hardware, my lattitude is really troublefree, but I got 7 and have seen 10. Well, it is better than 95/97 and 3.51 but not really. It is 'cool' though. Latest and greatest and all that. Posted by: micky at May 13, 2018 09:28 AM (dF9Lb) 58
Good Morning Horde!
Happy Mother's Day where applicable. Congratulations to Krak's family for a new addition! "Sensitivity Readers". The proper response is, "Thank you for your input, now, go pound sand" Posted by: Winston at May 13, 2018 09:29 AM (wgCUV) 59
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 09:28 AM (n9EOP)
-------- High speed mowing in reverse sounds like a good place,to start. Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 09:30 AM (MVjcR) 60
Posted by: Zoltan at May 13, 2018 09:09 AM (RKP6T)
The Brother Cadfael mystery series is set during that Civil War, which is how I even know it happened at all since (as with practically all of history) it never got mentioned in school. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2018 09:30 AM (rp9xB) 61
Am I the only one who thought that was a really nice Moron library at first?
Posted by: josephistan Nice library Arthur ! Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 09:30 AM (+UJer) 62
Reading Jordan Peterson's book, 12 rules for life. It has some great insights.
Posted by: Somewhere on Shanghai Highway at May 13, 2018 09:31 AM (Cq+AP) Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2018 09:31 AM (EoRCO) 64
"Sensitivity Readers". The proper response is, "Thank you for your input, now, go pound sand"
Posted by: Winston at May 13, 2018 09:29 AM (wgCUV) Or sit them down with an unabridged dictionary and have them report back when they're finished. Posted by: weirdflunky at May 13, 2018 09:31 AM (VLHlQ) Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 09:32 AM (+UJer) 66
Newton's specific beliefs were near-autistic
=========================== I don't understand that reference. Was Newton theist is some way, or atheist? Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 13, 2018 09:32 AM (rBnYq) 67
Also just got O'Reilly's book Killing England. Hopefully it is good
Posted by: Somewhere on Shanghai Highway at May 13, 2018 09:33 AM (Cq+AP) 68
Thanks to commenter naturalfake for suggesting Moscow to the End of the Line by Venedikt Erofeev as the book featuring the heaviest drinking in all of literature. It easily surpasses Dashiell Hammett's The Thin Man and Hemingway.
Originally circulated as samizdat, it is a devastating portrait of the Soviet Union in the Brezhnev years, when the only alternative to despair was to drink heavily and continually. Do NOT try any of the author's cocktail recipes at home! Posted by: cool breeze at May 13, 2018 09:33 AM (UGKMd) 69
Wow, just checked the 2nd and Charles site and there's a branch in Woodbridge VA. Too bad I can't make it today, the rain and gloom here would make it a perfect day to investigate a used book location.
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 09:33 AM (n9EOP) 70
Good Sunday morning, horde!
Annalucia, I look forward to reading your book when it's available. Keep us posted. Yesterday, I started Three Men in a Boat, by Jerome K. Jerome, recommended here by several. You all said it was humorous, but I wasn't expecting it to be laugh out loud funny! I'm 40 pages in, and have laughed 'til I cried several times, and texted excerpts to my sister. Good recommendation, thanks! Posted by: April at May 13, 2018 09:33 AM (e8PP1) 71
Fuck you sensitivity readers. Fuck writers that use sensitivity readers.
- I was reminded of the days when I was a kid and radio stations banned certain songs, Ed Sullivan shot Elvis only above the waist and forced the Rolling stones to change Let's Spend the Night Together to Let's Spend Some Time Together by Spotify's decision to ban R. Kelly. I don't give a Hillzass about R. Kelly but it is an example of us moving into the new Victorian era. Incidentally, also when I was a kid, a popular past time was freaking the squares in which one would violate social norms for the purpose of annoying and laughing at the uptight. I'm smelling a comeback. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 13, 2018 09:33 AM (+y/Ru) 72
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 09:12 AM (pV/54)
So far Pompeo seems to have a Trumpian sensibility when tweeting. I don't see his tweets often, but they are uniformly pointed and hilarious. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2018 09:33 AM (rp9xB) Posted by: April at May 13, 2018 09:34 AM (e8PP1) 74
weirdflunky, you're too kind.
The Harvard Classics will send them to the fainting couch with the vapors. They'll be then easy to use a My Pillow on. For the children, of course. Posted by: Winston at May 13, 2018 09:34 AM (wgCUV) 75
28 They are definitely in their rights to tell them
politely, okay, I agree on this bit; but for the rest of it, no, this particular character isn't you, so stop trying to make it you, KMA and go to Hell. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 09:10 AM (6FqZa) You missed my point entirely. I wasn't beating up on the sensitivity reviewers. I was beating up on the SJWs who created the need for them in the first place. And no need for YOU to make it personal either. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:35 AM (mpXpK) 76
Anyone wanna wager that 98% of sensitivity readers are self-loathing white girls?
Posted by: April at May 13, 2018 09:36 AM (e8PP1) 77
High speed mowing in reverse sounds like a good place,to start.
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 09:30 AM (MVjcR) My small tractor will let me mow in reverse (there's an over-ride switch), but I want to replace the transmission so it will go faster in both forward, and especially in, reverse. Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 09:36 AM (n9EOP) 78
Took a short break from The Histoty of Rome podcast to read and listen to the new "Murderbot" novella. I'm becoming very fond of the construct SecUnit. I guess there are two more novellas to be released later this year. I'll be very sad if the author, Martha Wells, doesn't continue his story.
Posted by: Tuna at May 13, 2018 09:36 AM (jm1YL) 79
I an not saying I would kill for that Conan Doyle room and materials but I won't dismiss the possibility. The librarians will just have to take their chances.
A couple of suggestions. 1. On Conan Doyle by Michael Dirda. He does his usual wonderful job of how he came to know Doyle's writing ( very similar to my experience) and why the stories are so enjoyable. 2. Through The Magic Door by Conan Doyle. A collection of essays on the books he likes, and doesn't like, and why. This is available as a free Kindle book. His nonfiction writing is a pleasure to read. Not one I read in one sitting but enjoyed a chapter at a time between other reading. Posted by: JTB at May 13, 2018 09:38 AM (V+03K) 80
My small tractor will let me mow in reverse (there's
an over-ride switch), but I want to replace the transmission so it will go faster in both forward, and especially in, reverse. Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 09:36 AM (n9EOP) My old Snapper had that. But none of the two that I have bought after that have it. I I put it in reverse the blade shuts down. My understanding is that it a gov mandated safety crap. So is the seat switch that shuts it own if you get up or get off. I was able to jumper that on my old lawn tractor easily. Not so on my last two. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:39 AM (mpXpK) 81
Just to be clear- the bunga-bunga joke has been prohibited at the Cannes Film Festival.
Wait for the movie. Posted by: Miklos. cineaste at May 13, 2018 09:40 AM (zCyNd) 82
You missed my point entirely. I wasn't beating up on the sensitivity reviewers. I was beating up on the SJWs who created the need for them in the first place. And no need for YOU to make it personal either.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:35 AM (mpXpK) Vic, bth was addressing the hypothetical "sensitivity reader", not you. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2018 09:40 AM (WFV7d) 83
Sensitivity readers?
The campaign of the Left to produce a populace of emotional infants continues apace. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2018 09:41 AM (oVJmc) 84
Next time boy, buy yo' self a tractor!
Posted by: Just the Cajun punch line at May 13, 2018 09:42 AM (zCyNd) 85
Also just got O'Reilly's book Killing England. Hopefully it is good
I read Killing Kennedy. It sucked. Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 09:42 AM (+UJer) 86
I remember visiting my Dad one weekend and he had a complete ACD works which I began to read. The story was about when Watson met Holmes and Holmes explained to him that he thought the mind was like a attic, not to be cluttered with useless junk due to the lack of room. Six months later at the age of 15, I dropped of HS to sell antiques full time. Best move I ever made. Thanks to Holmes.
Posted by: REDACTED at May 13, 2018 09:43 AM (Ymy4N) 87
From Last Thread:
.Yep, if someone told me 18 months ago that obama and the FBI planted a spy in the Trump Campaign and were wiretapping everyone I would have pegged them as a 9/11 conspiracy nut." Imagine what it will do to leftists hearts when historians look back on this decade, and note that the most honest and truthful journalist of the entire decade was Sean Hannity. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 09:44 AM (V2Yro) 88
Sheep>lawn tractors
Posted by: Bruce, Bruce, and Bruce at May 13, 2018 09:44 AM (zCyNd) 89
Or sit them down with an unabridged dictionary and have them report back when they're finished.
Posted by: weirdflunky at May 13, 2018 09:31 AM (VLHlQ) Hahaha....yup. And if they miss an offending word or two, like "God", it's time to go all Syme on them. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2018 09:44 AM (EoRCO) 90
First of all Happy Mother's Day to the 'ettes; even though it's a fake holiday by the greetings card companies the underlying emotion is still heartfelt. Mrs. Hate, for whom the concept of suffering in silence is the path never taken, used to be apoplectic that she had to be at the graduation of the local kollidge where they passed out participation certificates to the brainwashed on Mothers Day. I told her she should petition the dickweeds at American Greetings to move their fake holiday because the tenured nitbrains were as flexible as crowbars on that.
Anyway I finished American Sanctuary and enjoyed it quite a bit. The writer, A. Roger Ekirch, did his research very well but struck me as not quite as engaging of a narrator as Jay Winick or Timothy Snyder. But that's a subjective judgement on my part and doesn't diminish what he accomplished in making readers aware of an incident, mainly unknown by most people, which roiled the young country and was a major deal in terms of telling the Brits to stop fucking around with our ships and sailors, and that we won't bend over and extradite people just on your demand. It also pointed out that assigning rights to non citizens has been a bone of contention for a long fucking time and is probably why it was never directly addressed in the Constitution. And the incident at hand is still addressed in court documents. Even though I backhanded the narrative it's still a thought provoking book. Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2018 09:45 AM (y7DUB) 91
If you think about it, the useless safety features are basically a way for equipment manufacturers to put an end to legal rent-seeking. Make a product that's unusable with the safety features properly installed. Customers disable safety features in order to use the equipment. Injured customers have to suck it up because the ambulance-chasers can't look for a big payout, since the machine was being used improperly.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 13, 2018 09:45 AM (XvTjt) 92
Sensitivity readers?
Pfaugh... would-be jumped up Political Commissars. As for the 'erstwhile' one. Sounds like they want to be the writer but lack the chops. IE they want to be god pushing around around characters but lack the actual talent or drive. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 09:45 AM (HMNwq) 93
Two tractors ago I disconnected everything. Newest tractor I'm leaving it all on. With an 'interesting' property with hills and slopes I have to cut across I'm okay with tractor engine and blades shutting off if I would get thrown. But it would be nice to be able to throw it in reverse with the blades still spinning. Or have a switch to override. Somewhere on the back, so in order to press the button you have to look behind the tractor. Posted by: Forgot My Nic at May 13, 2018 09:46 AM (LOgQ4) 94
It sucked.
Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 09:42 AM (+UJer) I think O'Reilly would let you write the next book, as long he gets to put his name on it and keep all the money. Posted by: Random Miklos House at May 13, 2018 09:46 AM (zCyNd) 95
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:39 AM (mpXpK)
I'm sure the safety stuff is both government and corporate lawyer mandated. Since I try to get grandkids to do useful work every once in a while, I leave the safeties on. But the reverse mowing option might be because the TORO I have is probably a low end commercial unit. It does require that you have two keys, one in the ignition and one in the reverse option slot (which has to be re-engaged every time you shut down the blade). Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 09:46 AM (n9EOP) 96
Good morning horde from the boondocks of NE Texas. Wanted to pop in & wish the 'ettes a Happy Mother's Day.
Salute! Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2018 09:46 AM (J/LQs) 97
Just started reading the satirical novel The Narrative by Deplora Boule at the recommendation of the Bookhorde blog. I'm finding it a bit heavy-handed, but thoroughly funny political humor from the "right" perspective.
Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at May 13, 2018 09:47 AM (1pQvR) 98
My old Snapper had that. But none of the two that I have bought after that have it. I I put it in reverse the blade shuts down. My understanding is that it a gov mandated safety crap. So is the seat switch that shuts it own if you get up or get off. I was able to jumper that on my old lawn tractor easily. Not so on my last two.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 09:39 AM (mpXpK) I have an old Dixon ZTR mower. Mowing in reverse is natural with them, but it does have the seat switch, which never gives me trouble. And the blade clutch is electric, so if I ever have to dismount the mower while it is running, I can just declutch the blades with the flip of a a switch. But it's sort of difficult to mount/dismount a running ZTR, because you tend to grab a steering lever for an assist, and the machine wants to move. But what works on one type of machine doesn't work on others. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2018 09:47 AM (WFV7d) 99
Do not use hair dryer in bath or shower.
Posted by: Hamilton Beach Legal Dept. at May 13, 2018 09:48 AM (zCyNd) Posted by: Somewhere on Shanghai Highway at May 13, 2018 09:48 AM (Cq+AP) 101
81 Just to be clear- the bunga-bunga joke has been prohibited at the Cannes Film Festival.
Wait for the movie." This is about that Space-X flight, isn't it? Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 09:48 AM (V2Yro) 102
Spanx X
Posted by: Somewhere on Shanghai Highway at May 13, 2018 09:49 AM (Cq+AP) 103
Injured customers have to suck it up because the ambulance-chasers can't look for a big payout, since the machine was being used improperly.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 13, 2018 09:45 AM (XvTjt) Shakespeare had it right! Posted by: Dick the Butcher at May 13, 2018 09:50 AM (n9EOP) 104
if you mow in reverse does the grass get longer?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 09:50 AM (V2Yro) 105
Never start a sentence with "My old Snapper"
Posted by: Somewhere on Shanghai Highway at May 13, 2018 09:50 AM (Cq+AP) 106
Now reading "To Change the Church" by Ross Douthat. Disturbing and depressing, as it hits a point of personal pain. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 09:50 AM (RJcOX) 107
the TORO I have is probably a low end commercial unit. It does require that you have two keys, one in the ignition and one in the reverse option slot (which has to be re-engaged every time you shut down the blade).
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar So, you need a co-pilot. Hire a homeless guy and write a book..... Stinky is my Co-Pilot. Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 09:50 AM (+UJer) 108
Shakespeare should've had a sensitivity reader for Othello. I mean, a black man kills his white wife? Could he be any more racist? And Othello is presented somewhat sympathetically. A batterer needs to be understood? Oh, the patriarchy! And why didn't Desdemona just kung fu his ass out the window like Laura Croft? Are we to believe Mr. Man was stronger than her? This piece of garbage should never have been allowed!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (+y/Ru) 109
One of the things you learn, well I suppose in any endeavor, certainly in the dental world and bartending universe as well as writing is-
you can't control the baggage an individual brings with them and/or their intelligence. There are people who do to their life experiences or personality or education or lack of intelligence may not get your book or may not get what you're trying to do. They won't be readers of your book or clients or whatever anyway, so if you've done your best - why try to please them? There will be others who are your readers or market. Not everyone will love you. I guess the one way this might make sense is if a book publisher offered you a huge contract because they thought your book would be a YUGE bestseller...but only if you made these (SJW-style) changes. There, they're with their rights I think since they're buying your book for big money. And then, your choice is your integrity(if you truly object to the SJW changes) or the sale. For most people, that would be a tough choice. But, censorship right the bat? GFY. Posted by: naturalfake at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (9q7Dl) 110
''.....The investigation soon uncovers a large-scale racketeering operation in Londinium and pits Falco against an old foe from Rome. The reader learns a little about early London under Roman rule. ''
The Medicus series by Ruth Downie is recommended. Roman legion doctor serving in Britain during the reign of Hadrian finds he has a knack for solving murder mysteries. Lots of wonderful info on the Romans and various native tribes. Posted by: Tuna at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (jm1YL) 111
Label on top step of ladder: STOP HERE.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (oVJmc) 112
This is about that Space-X flight, isn't it?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 09:48 AM (V2Yro) Working title: Musk's Martian Minxes Posted by: Lilly Pulitzer at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (zCyNd) 113
https://tinyurl.com/Read-It-READ-IT-NOW
Posted by: Marooned at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (8hRlF) 114
With an 'interesting' property with hills and slopes I have to cut across I'm okay with tractor engine and blades shutting off if I would get thrown.
But it would be nice to be able to throw it in reverse with the blades still spinning. Or have a switch to override. Somewhere on the back, so in order to press the button you have to look behind the tractor. Posted by: Forgot My Nic Engine cut-off switch/bracelet like on a bass boat. Wear it on the "squirrelly" angles in case thrown, take it off when you need to get off & keep things running. Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (J/LQs) 115
if you mow in reverse does the grass get longer?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 09:50 AM (V2Yro) Heh! Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (WFV7d) Posted by: SCAG at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (Ymy4N) 117
Finally finished The Birth of the Modern: World Society 1815-1830 by Paul Johnson.
It is a magisterial book that is also a good read. He has a way of summing up events and people that is captivating. He breaths life into most stories, and he covers all sides of the world. I found his coverage of the War of 1812, the English poets, Greek revolutionary actions, reform in the UK, South American liberation, and Chinese policy fascinating. I'm reading short books that are light fluff to recover from that toy poodle killing book. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 13, 2018 09:52 AM (hyuyC) 118
I have a John Deere ZTR and it has a remarkably complicated sequence for starting. Love it, though. Much faster and neater than my old L130. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 09:53 AM (RJcOX) 119
if you mow in reverse does the grass get longer?
LOL. That sounds like a Steven Wright question. Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 09:53 AM (+UJer) 120
Now back to fixing the Deere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 13, 2018 09:53 AM (hyuyC) 121
if you mow in reverse does the grass get longer?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 09:50 AM (V2Yro) Only if the mower is based on a repurposed Delorean. Posted by: Doc Brown at May 13, 2018 09:53 AM (zCyNd) 122
So, like, when I applied for the job, I was told I needed to be like literate.
I was like, "what?" and got right back in their face and told them I was a woke person and using big words was like totally unwoke and how like I wasn't sure I even wanted the job. Turns out, that was the right answer. And, because my job can be so stressful, I got a fainting couch, too! And boy, I mean, (almost slipped up there!) wow, some of the stuff I've read over the first two days have been so hurtful I've had to stop and use the couch a lot. Fortunately, I don't have to worry about deadlines or anything. I was told it's more important that I get a book properly vetted before it's published. After all, it's only money and, well, that just isn't my problem! Well, thought I'd check in and let you all in on just how dreadfully stressed I am at this job. Anyway, back to "Fun with Dick and Jane." Gotta get this one whipped into shape! Could be a while, though, for this one! Very hard to read what with all the privilege in the book! Later! Posted by: Sensitivity Reader at May 13, 2018 09:54 AM (WEBkv) 123
Sensitivity Readers give Mao's Little Red Book two thumbs up!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2018 09:55 AM (oVJmc) 124
Now back to fixing the Deere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 13, 2018 09:53 AM (hyuyC) Not again. Please not again. Posted by: Miklos "Buck" Molnar at May 13, 2018 09:55 AM (zCyNd) 125
Shakespeare should've had a sensitivity reader for Othello."
What needs sensitivity training is Titus Andronicus. I just chalk that one up as proof that even the best of writers can crank out a real stinker every so often. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 09:55 AM (V2Yro) 126
Label on top step of ladder: STOP HERE.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2018 09:51 AM (oVJmc) I seem remember reading somewhere, probably here, that a step ladder company added the line "Use only on solid stable level unfrozen ground!" on their product. This supposedly happened after a user was climbing a ladder placed on top of a frozen manure pile and tried to sue the company because of the epic fail that ensued! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 09:56 AM (n9EOP) 127
Good morning Rons & Ettes. Just listened to the finished Audiobook of Amy Lynn. It's got problems. What a slog this is. It's almost as bad as editing.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 09:56 AM (qhkNP) 128
I bought a cheetah mower because I got a lot of grass to mow and the mower makes almost 20 mph. Of course, you can't mow at 20 mph but no one explained that to me at the time.
Posted by: REDACTED at May 13, 2018 09:57 AM (Ymy4N) 129
Killing England, is the moral of the story Leftism or Islam?
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2018 09:57 AM (aC6Sd) 130
Killing England, is the moral of the story Leftism or Islam?
Should be Leftism, since it is what props the door open to the other. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2018 09:59 AM (oVJmc) 131
Sensitivity Readers give Mao's Little Red Book two thumbs up!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2018 09:55 AM (oVJmc) You're more than a number in my little red book More than a one night stand Just when you were thinking that you've been took I see my Red Guard baby, self-rectifying with two thumbs up Posted by: The Orignal Drifters at May 13, 2018 09:59 AM (zCyNd) 132
It's Not You. It's Me - a limerick The poor young lass is moping. She's a fretter. Whatever could have possibly upset her? I think perhaps one factor Is they've repossessed her tractor And told her 'bout it in a John Deere letter! Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 10:01 AM (m45I2) 133
I have a John Deere ZTR and it has a remarkably complicated sequence for starting. Love it, though. Much faster and neater than my old L130.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 09:53 AM (RJcOX) I had to repower my Dixon mower with a Kawasaki engine after its original Briggs and Stratton engine wore out. The throttle linkage doesn't have enough range to work the carburetor choke. So my routine is: open fuel petcock under tank, advance throttle to about 1/4, work choke linkage by hand while turning ignition switch to crank with other hand. It always starts, and usually stays running, unless I am too quick to release the choke. Then I hop on, and mow for the rest of the day no problem. Warm restarts don't need the choke, so can be done from the seat. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2018 10:01 AM (WFV7d) 134
Just to be clear- the bunga-bunga joke has been prohibited at the Cannes Film Festival.
I guess they don't wanna give their guests any ideas. Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 10:01 AM (+UJer) 135
I 've continued in an historic reading mood, both for literature and fact. I got out my Riverside Canterbury Tales with its excellent glosses and background sections but also to try reading aloud. It is an effort but fun.
Haven't started it yet but I picked up a copy of Beowulf, Old English on one page and a good translation on the page opposite. I usd to be pretty good at reading the OE out loud but that was well over 40 years ago and a lot of rust has accumulated since then. At least I can only improve. I splurged on the Landmark Julius Caesar and began the intro sections. So far they have done the usual Landmark great job. And I love the maps. Some complained about appendices only available as a download but it isn't that big a deal. They are available as a free pdf download. I have copies on the laptop and Kindle Fire. They would have added mire than 300 pages to an already massive book. If need be, I can always print them out. Posted by: JTB at May 13, 2018 10:01 AM (V+03K) 136
Should be Leftism, since it is what props the door open to the other.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2018 09:59 AM (oVJmc) Leftism seems almost tame. It's more like the the planned destruction of culture and civilization. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:01 AM (qhkNP) 137
88 Sheep>lawn tractors
Posted by: Bruce, Bruce, and Bruce at May 13, 2018 09:44 AM (zCyNd) Baaaa, humbug! Posted by: C Dickens at May 13, 2018 10:01 AM (n9EOP) 138
I just chalk that one up as proof that even the best of writers can crank out a real stinker every so often.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 09:55 AM (V2Yro) It was the best of comments, it was the worst of comments Posted by: Chuck "paid by the word" Dickens at May 13, 2018 10:01 AM (zCyNd) 139
well Morons. Its time for me to shutdown until Tuesday so I can pack this stuff away so the cleaners can come in.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 10:02 AM (mpXpK) 140
What the Dickens!!???
Posted by: Bookish M. at May 13, 2018 10:03 AM (zCyNd) 141
Have a good one Vic, and be safe.
Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 10:03 AM (+UJer) 142
Newton was a fanatical theist (with his own weird semi-Christian non-Trinitarian theology).
Georg Cantor and Kurt Godel spring immediately to mind as more recent examples of men who were absolutely at the top of their intellectual fields and who made no bones about their deep faith (both were Lutheran, if anyone is curious) and had to deal with university faculties that were already heavily socialist, atheist, and looked down on theism. Posted by: Locarno at May 13, 2018 10:04 AM (qkTxK) 143
I'm gonna need a sensisitivity reader for my Cannibal Cookbook. I realized Muzzie Severed Head Cheese Pizza might need a rewrite, among other things.
Morning Gang. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:04 AM (aljs9) 144
well Morons. Its time for me to shutdown until Tuesday so I can pack this stuff away so the cleaners can come in.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2018 10:02 AM (mpXpK) Yep. The coal fired vacuums are hardly worth the effort any more. Templeton June 12th! Posted by: Steampunk Miklos at May 13, 2018 10:04 AM (zCyNd) 145
45 Haven't been reading much this week between work (ugh) and finishing up a short story submission for Oren Litwin's project. Scratch a Moron, and you'll find a frustrated author wannabee, it seems. We shall see what happens.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 13, 2018 09:21 AM (lApJ5) --------------------- Good luck! Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 10:05 AM (WEBkv) 146
I realized Muzzie Severed Head Cheese Pizza might need a rewrite, among other things.
Saaaaarite Posted by: salafist, transitioning at May 13, 2018 10:05 AM (zCyNd) 147
Morning all
Shopping all done, I think? For the mother's day brunch we annually hold for the worthless relatives. Getting ready to cook the bacon as soon as the wife finds the pan. Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 10:06 AM (SjImc) 148
Getting ready to cook the bacon as soon as the wife finds the pan.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 10:06 AM (SjImc) *BOINGGGG* Oh, thank you darling. Posted by: Alexa knows too much at May 13, 2018 10:07 AM (zCyNd) 149
Was in the Woodlands Barnes and Nobles yesterday and some space station Astronaut was pimping his children's book. I think his name was Anderson.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 13, 2018 10:08 AM (VzbI8) 150
I've started reading The Art of Contrary Thinking by Humphrey B. Neill.
I expect the direction of the book might be captured by the phrase the masses are always wrong. It's primarily about finances but I believe it also applies to politics. Lefties invariably believe they're the intelligent ones but what is leftist politics but emotion driven mass movements? And hence the vicious hysteria when ever someone leaves the herd and the determination to guard childlike college students from contrary thinking. Posted by: Northernlurker light at May 13, 2018 10:09 AM (nBr1j) 151
Muldoon! You are truly an idiot savant! That made me laugh, and I haven't had cawfee yet.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:09 AM (aljs9) 152
A ordered the hardback version of A Scientist's Search for God. As an engineer, I find no contradiction between a belief in the Supreme Architect of the Universe and science. I have given the issue a bit of thought and find the "Unmoved Prime Mover" to be a convincing argument.
Stephen Hawking did not believe in God and wrote a book in which he said that mathematics proved that God did not create the universe. My reaction was, "Um, from what did those equations derive?" A young engineer I used to work with referred to mathematics as the Language of God. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 13, 2018 10:09 AM (5Yee7) 153
I think his name was Anderson.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 13, 2018 10:08 AM (VzbI ![]() Yeah, We were together on the Mars mission. Left a flag and all. Posted by: Space Cadet Sheila Jackson-Lee at May 13, 2018 10:10 AM (zCyNd) 154
Stephen and Maud in England?
For a very irreverent and not quite correct look at English history, dig up 1066 and All That: A Memorable History of England by Walter Carruthers Sellar and Robert Julian Yeatman. From page twenty After this Stephen and Matilda (or Maud) spent the reign escaping from each other over the snow in nightgowns while 'God and His Angels slept.' Taking advantage of this lax state of affairs, the Barons built a surfeit of romantic castles, into which they lured everybody and then put them to the torture; nor is it recorded that the Sword was once sheathed, right to the bottom, during the whole of this dreadful reign. Hence the memorable greeting so common among the Barons of the time - "Merrie Englande!" Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:11 AM (HMNwq) 155
While on the topic of garden tools, I recently bought a 14" Greenworks chain saw. 40 volt rechargeable battery. I just so tired of gas/oil mixtures and pull start. Cutting? Little different then 14" Poulan gas. Price about the same -- right around $100. BUT, that doesn't include battery or charging unit. That adds another $80 to $100 to the price. Battery life kinda short. Maybe 15 minutes tops on fat logs. So another battery or two is my future. Makes very little noise. Have to remind myself sometimes this isn't a toy. [X] Recommended for those north of 29 years of age Posted by: Forgot My Nic at May 13, 2018 10:11 AM (LOgQ4) 156
Posted by: Northernlurker light at May 13, 2018 10:09 AM (nBr1j)
Reminds me of one of my favorite sayings. A million people believing a foolish thing does not make it not foolish. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 13, 2018 10:12 AM (VzbI8) Posted by: Off the reservation at May 13, 2018 10:13 AM (vWMNq) 158
My reaction was, "Um, from what did those equations derive?" A young engineer I used to work with referred to mathematics as the Language of God.
===== With young people, I just shrug and say how long is a day for a supreme deity? Usually stops the more ridiculous assertions about what Christians/Jews believe. Worked with my BSE baby girl. Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:13 AM (MIKMs) 159
With young people, I just shrug and say how long is a day for a supreme deity? Usually stops the more ridiculous assertions about what Christians/Jews believe. Worked with my BSE baby girl.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:13 AM (MIKMs) Hmm, so, we could still be in the seventh day. He could still be resting. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:15 AM (qhkNP) 160
I the leftists state all old books also will be subject to a Sensitiity evading and changed accordingly. Gone With The Wind is first. I mean portraying slaves as slaves? I can't even.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:15 AM (aljs9) 161
Fuck you sensitivity readers. Fuck writers that use sensitivity readers.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 08:59 AM (JFO2v) Heh...What is old is new again. Thomas Bowlder thought that William Shakespeare was too naughty for 19th century women and children and produced the expurgated "Family Shakespeare" in 1807. That is were the term "bowlderize" came from. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 13, 2018 10:16 AM (5Yee7) 162
Two religion of peace updates.
The latest Paris stabber was from Chechnya. Family, With Children in Tow, Carry Out Suicide Bombings At 3 Churches in Indonesia The family that blows up together . . . . I got nothing. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 13, 2018 10:16 AM (+y/Ru) 163
I was glad to see the library was part of an institutional collection, I was feeling pretty inadequate and poor
Posted by: CN at May 13, 2018 10:16 AM (5gaNQ) 164
Hmm, so, we could still be in the seventh day. He could still be resting.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:15 AM (qhkNP) *Giant being, contemplating a single atom in his fingernail* Posted by: Could I buy some pot from you? at May 13, 2018 10:17 AM (zCyNd) 165
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:13 AM (MIKMs)
Unfortunately you have to ask that same question to some creationists. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 13, 2018 10:17 AM (VzbI8) 166
"What needs sensitivity training is Titus Andronicus.
I just chalk that one up as proof that even the best of writers can crank out a real stinker every so often." Like Kubrick never made the same movie again, Shakespeare worked different genres. Titus was his over-the-top let's-shock-the-audience Hostel. Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:18 AM (pV/54) 167
The family that blows up together . . . . I got nothing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 13, 2018 10:16 AM (+y/Ru) Don't give 'em any ideas about "nuclear families". Posted by: Mornin' Miklos at May 13, 2018 10:18 AM (zCyNd) 168
Guardian - And if all the characters speak with the same courtesy, and voice the same standard left-of-centre views, contemporary fiction cant hope to contribute to the understanding of a world that elects Donald Trump.
So Trumpers lack courtesy? Oh, but I beg ever so humbly to disagree. In fact, I gotcher courtesy right here, Guardian! Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 13, 2018 10:18 AM (MjkWd) Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 10:18 AM (+UJer) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 10:19 AM (RJcOX) 171
Unfortunately you have to ask that same question to some creationists.
===== Even in a hotbed of modern revivalism, I've never met any, nor have my kids. Should work the same way. Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:20 AM (MIKMs) 172
The fact that these sensitivity readers exist, offspring of Bowdler (spit) and the Hayes Commission for movies, makes my blood boil. And that these totolatarian cliwns are butt hurt because their 'enlightened ' attitudes aren't universally enbraced makes it worse.
Write the damn book and see if it sells. Just proofread it first. I wonder if 50 Shades of Whatever was reviewed for sensitivity. Posted by: JTB at May 13, 2018 10:21 AM (V+03K) 173
OSP, the voice actors giving a bad delivery? As in they all sound like Steven Wright on Valium?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:21 AM (HMNwq) 174
[38].......Great for stuff which will never be digitized, such as nineteenth-century bound volumes of Punch magazine.
Go to archive.org. You will find all that stuff digitized including Punch magazine. Posted by: microcosme at May 13, 2018 10:21 AM (0jKjd) 175
160 I the leftists state all old books also will be subject to a Sensitiity evading and changed accordingly. Gone With The Wind is first. I mean portraying slaves as slaves? I can't even.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:15 AM (aljs9) -------------------- I believe there's a "woke" version of a classic coming out. I can't remember if it's "Ann of Green Gables" that's being butchered or "Little Women." I want to say it's one of that genre. Unfortunately, my 29 year old memory just isn't what it never was. Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 10:21 AM (WEBkv) 176
It's been said slavery was a human norn until 1865, while it still goes on has been greatly reduced since then.
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2018 10:21 AM (aC6Sd) Posted by: Gallagher on meth at May 13, 2018 10:22 AM (zCyNd) Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:22 AM (pV/54) 179
Could always buy Books by Morons?
https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Isis-Anastasia-Atelier-ebook/dp/B014BTSEYO Not a single sensitivity reader was consulted. ![]() Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:23 AM (HMNwq) 180
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 13, 2018 10:16 AM (+y/Ru)
Obviously, the koran needs a good sensitivity edit! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 10:23 AM (n9EOP) 181
The family that blows up together . . . . I got nothing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 13, 2018 10:16 AM (+y/Ru) Lets compare and contrast that with a Sunday family reunion. Gaze into a park, 75-100 people in matching T-shirts, cooking, eating, playing games. laughing. And, if it's the OSP family reunion, the occasional waft of weed, the clinking of a mason jar, and a couple of drunk uncles in a tussle over unresolved issues. Probably concerning a woman that is no longer with either of them. Still, no splosions, no one dies. Everyone laughs and remembers the good times. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:23 AM (qhkNP) 182
It's been said slavery was a human norn until 1865, while it still goes on has been greatly reduced since then.
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2018 10:21 AM (aC6Sd) Reports of its death are greatly exaggerated. Posted by: Samuel Clemens at May 13, 2018 10:24 AM (zCyNd) 183
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 13, 2018 10:18 AM (MjkWd)
Yeah, that was a bit of self-congratulatory tripe. Courtesy is distinctly *not* a notable attribute of the left. Real courtesy takes (at least the ability to fake) a certain amount of humility and leftists are generally too positive they are correct to display any humility. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2018 10:24 AM (rp9xB) 184
Since Seamus brought up. John Deer, we are building 4 raised gardens for veggies. If its good enough to do, its good enough to overdo. They are on the shaded part of the house which means it only gets 120 part of the day so covering with burlap and making complete. Enclosure so we can. Garden with the kitties. This is an entree into Heidi Acres. I'm getting her a John Deer hat.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:24 AM (aljs9) 185
Not a single sensitivity reader was consulted.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:23 AM (HMNwq) Amen Sister. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:24 AM (qhkNP) 186
With young people, I just shrug and say how long is a day for a supreme deity? Usually stops the more ridiculous assertions about what Christians/Jews believe. Worked with my BSE baby girl.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:13 AM (MIKMs) Genesis follows the order of events that atheists say that a non-divine creation of the universe requires. Believe in the Supreme Architect of the Universe or don't; your opinion is immaterial to me until you want to harm me for having an opposing opinion. My big problem with the militant atheists is their cowardice: plenty of vitriol for Christians and Jews but silence towards Mohammadans. It seems that the militant atheists tacitly agree that one of those three religions behaves differently in how they treat unbelievers. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 13, 2018 10:25 AM (5Yee7) 187
What qualifies one to be a sensitivity reader? Sand in your hoo-haw?
That might explain the sensitivity part. Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 10:25 AM (m45I2) Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:25 AM (MIKMs) Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:26 AM (HMNwq) 190
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:22 AM (pV/54)
His tweets show a Trumpian personality. It came as a surprise. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2018 10:26 AM (rp9xB) 191
Not a single sensitivity reader was consulted.
===== What are we, liverwurst? Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:25 AM (MIKMs) I like liverwurst Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:27 AM (qhkNP) 192
OK, I'm not currently meme-compliant.
I'm assuming that oafs and oafettes are refugees from some other site. Which one? Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:27 AM (fuK7c) 193
"Actually Titus Andronicus was the equivalent of the modern-day shoot-'em-up revenge movie."
Right on. IIRC, Titus feeds his enemy a pie made of her two sons. Now where have I seen that recently? But Game of Thrones would never go so far as to have a daughter killed by her father because she had been raped. Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:28 AM (pV/54) 194
I'm assuming that oafs and oafettes are refugees from some other site. Which one?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:27 AM (fuK7c) I want to guess. Hot Air? Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:28 AM (qhkNP) 195
187 What qualifies one to be a sensitivity reader? Sand in your hoo-haw?
That might explain the sensitivity part. Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 10:25 AM (m45I2) --------------------- I believe there are more than a few "woke" umm, men? who qualify as having sand in their hoo-haw. Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 10:29 AM (WEBkv) 196
The family that blows up together . . . .
Doesn't grows up together ? Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 10:18 AM (+UJer) Saves more seats on the helos when the time comes for the rest. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2018 10:29 AM (EoRCO) 197
I'm assuming that oafs and oafettes are refugees from some other site. Which one?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:27 AM (fuK7c) Good question, I hadn't heard the term before but it seems meme-ish! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 10:29 AM (n9EOP) 198
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:27 AM (fuK7c)
No refugees. Apparently some Horde related phrase produces the anagram of (something, I've forgotten what exactly) Oaf. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2018 10:30 AM (rp9xB) 199
Meat pie of children?
Oh right Medea expressing her ire at Jason for running off with another Grecian trollop. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:30 AM (HMNwq) 200
The level of censorship that younger generations willingly embrace is truly insane. The world has become ripe for another goosestepping madman.
Posted by: Fritz at May 13, 2018 10:30 AM (J7XgW) 201
Still in history mode, I came across the two volume "Audubon and his Journals". He kept them during his travels in the late 1840s and early 1850s. I learned of them because he has some sections on the use of firearms in the back country but so far they are generally intetesting. They are still in print but available cheap as ebooks.
Posted by: JTB at May 13, 2018 10:31 AM (V+03K) 202
I like liverwurst
******* Cool! I've got a big batch of the stuff. You want to trade me for that seagull you've got there? Just kidding. I don't really want to take a tern for the wurst. Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 10:31 AM (m45I2) 203
Vic , I wasn't insulting you. I should have posted quotes around most of my comment so I'm sorry I didn't make that clear. I'm an idiot.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 10:31 AM (6FqZa) Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:32 AM (HMNwq) 205
Just kidding. I don't really want to take a tern for the wurst.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 10:31 AM (m45I2) Wow, just, wow. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:33 AM (qhkNP) 206
Maybe the way to use "sensitivity readers" is to get their feedback, then expand and enhance all they see as objectionable. If something is "potentially" triggering, have it change from potentiality to actuality. If someone says "This could be read as sexist", rewrite it so as to remove all doubt.
Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 10:33 AM (/ki+X) 207
Ooh, and here's nice Mr Hilter-he's just found a place where they let bombers by the hour....
Posted by: Evergreeen State University at May 13, 2018 10:33 AM (zCyNd) 208
Of course, my brain is not working very well this am (youngest kidlet graduated yesterday with BSE) and there is no way to walk through the house because of the detritus of moving back home --
I seem to recall Christopher Marlowe doing a real bloody rape, revenge, ghost with missing hands, etc. and being successful. TA is probably trying to imitate. After all, that was the culture of hanging, drawing, and quartering. Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:33 AM (MIKMs) Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 10:33 AM (+UJer) 210
3 Am reading Patrick O'Brien' Treason Harbour of the Aubrey/ Maturin series.
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2018 08:56 AM (aC6Sd) Wray is probably the biggest POS in the entire series. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 10:34 AM (/ki+X) 211
MSM is now getting obsessed with the Trump - Fat Boy summit. Lots of Grandmas back seat driving.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:34 AM (pV/54) 212
Oh right Medea expressing her ire at Jason for running off with another Grecian trollop.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:30 AM (HMNwq) Sir! I must insist on a retraction of such slander! Posted by: Anthony Trollop at May 13, 2018 10:35 AM (zCyNd) 213
Wray is probably the biggest POS in the entire series.
Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 10:34 AM (/ki+X) Prescient name, eh what? Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 10:35 AM (n9EOP) 214
206 Maybe the way to use "sensitivity readers" is to get their feedback, then expand and enhance all they see as objectionable. If something is "potentially" triggering, have it change from potentiality to actuality. If someone says "This could be read as sexist", rewrite it so as to remove all doubt.
Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 10:33 AM (/ki+X) --------------- And then return it to the sensitivity readers just to watch their heads explode? Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 10:35 AM (WEBkv) 215
Sand in your hoo-haw?
Wasn't that a Drifters song ? Posted by: JT ******* I believe you are correct. It was played during the intro sequence of True Grit. Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 10:35 AM (m45I2) 216
Obviously, the koran needs a good sensitivity edit!
LOL, Hrothgar. The French told al-Azhar exactly that, but in French, because everyone loves to be lectured in French. It went down as well as you'd expect. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 10:35 AM (6FqZa) Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 10:35 AM (+UJer) 218
(youngest kidlet graduated yesterday with BSE)
Wow. Bovine Spongiform Encephalopagy must be really hard to confront during your studies. Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:35 AM (fuK7c) 219
''I believe there's a "woke" version of a classic coming out. I can't remember if it's "Ann of Green Gables" that's being butchered or "Little Women."
''Little Women", wherein Jo is a lesbian. Posted by: Tuna at May 13, 2018 10:37 AM (jm1YL) 220
Ace of Spades === escaped oafs
Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at May 13, 2018 10:37 AM (oi10F) 221
Some conservative Authors are getting a little careful. A friend of mine, someone who swore me to secrecy and that many of you have heard of, just unleashed a heavy does of ridicule on SJW's in a book called "The Narrative, by Deplora Boule. Funny as hell. The hits come fast and furious.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at May 13, 2018 10:37 AM (qhkNP) 222
I don't understand authors kow-towing to publisher censors in this day and age when anyone can self-publish.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 13, 2018 10:37 AM (84F5k) 223
I believe you are correct. It was played during the intro sequence of True Grit.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 10:35 AM (m45I2) Sorry. It was The Sands of Hooha-Jima. Posted by: Anthony Trollop at May 13, 2018 10:37 AM (zCyNd) 224
And then return it to the sensitivity readers just to watch their heads explode?
Release it to become a bestseller. Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2018 10:37 AM (nBBdT) 225
Bull Shit Exponential is how I have described it (hat tip my dad, another one). Just kidding.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:38 AM (MIKMs) 226
My liver couldn't get any wurst.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:38 AM (aljs9) Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:39 AM (HMNwq) 228
I'm 2/3 of the way through "A Gentleman in Moscow." It's an amazing story, that is at once charming, and horrifying. The charming part is a former Duke is sentenced to life in the Metropol hotel in Moscow, (for a poem he wrote), and he maintains his sanity in a good humored, old-moneyed fashion. The horrifying part is watching the revolution's chickens come home to roost. I typically don't go for the airport best sellers, but this book is fascinating.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 13, 2018 10:40 AM (ty7RM) 229
Hasn't some guy redone the classic fairy tales to make them less upsetting to kids? Like Hansel and Gretel?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:40 AM (aljs9) 230
50 I'm leaving through the owners manual for my tractor, something I almost never do. Already have some ideas for circumventing the safety features.
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 09:26 AM (MVjcR) Those are true Moron sentiments, usually followed by asking someone to hold your beer. Posted by: RI Red at May 13, 2018 10:40 AM (Aoygp) 231
Disney already did that Cannibal Bob...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:41 AM (HMNwq) 232
The Sand Pebbles, bet those jokers hurt.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:39 AM (HMNwq) You have NO idea. Posted by: Lena Dunham's sister at May 13, 2018 10:41 AM (jHrzU) 233
1-write something
2-give to many sensitivity readers 3-collect all comments, screeds, etc 4-forget all original text 5-Comedy gold, Jerry! Posted by: Miklos (sic) (Ed.) at May 13, 2018 10:41 AM (zCyNd) 234
''MSM is now getting obsessed with the Trump - Fat Boy summit. Lots of Grandmas back seat driving.''
Probably as PDT hoped they would be. Keeps them busy while he continues to work behind their backs. Stupid idiots they are. Posted by: Tuna at May 13, 2018 10:41 AM (jm1YL) 235
230 50 I'm leaving through the owners manual for my tractor, something I almost never do. Already have some ideas for circumventing the safety features.
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 09:26 AM (MVjcR) Those are true Moron sentiments, usually followed by asking someone to hold your beer. Posted by: RI Red at May 13, 2018 10:40 AM (Aoygp) And saying "hey! Watch THIS!" As you're wife dials 911. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:42 AM (aljs9) 236
Greetings:
Re: Sensitivity One of my favorite books is T.R. Fehrenbach's "Comanches: The History of a People. It was first published back in the mid-70s. Recently, I came across it re-titled as "Comanches: The Destruction of a People". Posted by: 11B40 at May 13, 2018 10:43 AM (evgyj) 237
231 Disney already did that Cannibal Bob...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:41 AM (HMNwq) I'm gonna kick some ass. Posted by: Zombie Walt Disney at May 13, 2018 10:43 AM (aljs9) 238
"The Narrative, by Deplora Boule
-------------------------- Obviously written by a Moron. Ordered! Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 10:44 AM (WEBkv) 239
Hasn't some guy redone the classic fairy tales to make them less upsetting to kids? Like Hansel and Gretel?
All of the Grimm tales have been redone for kids for ages. Given that we're all 29, we probably read them more than 50 years ago and they'd already been cleaned up. Hansel and Gretl were taken out to be abandoned in the woods because their parents couldn't feed them. Snow White's sisters cut the heels and toes off their feet to fit into the slippers. That stuff has been cleaned up for yonks. Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:44 AM (fuK7c) 240
Sorry, I forgot the mobius loop part 1-write something 2-give to many sensitivity readers 3-collect all comments, screeds, etc 4-send to other sensitivity readers 5-forget all original text 6-send to yet other sensitivity readers 6-Comedy gold, Jerry! Posted by: Miklos (sic) (Ed.) at May 13, 2018 10:44 AM (zCyNd) 241
Anna, there is nothing that Lefties can't poison by touching it.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:44 AM (aljs9) 242
Disney already did that Cannibal Bob...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:41 AM (HMNwq) I'm gonna kick some ass. Posted by: Zombie Walt Disney at May 13, 2018 10:43 AM (aljs9) It's a small world, after all. Posted by: Roy Disney at May 13, 2018 10:45 AM (zCyNd) Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:46 AM (HMNwq) 244
I think we should put the Muslims in charge of Disney World.
Posted by: Rob Zombie Walt Disney at May 13, 2018 10:47 AM (qhkNP) 245
It's a small world, after all.
Posted by: Roy Disney at May 13, 2018 10:45 AM (zCyNd) Bringing up that fcuking song is grounds for a forever barreling. What is wrong with you? Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 13, 2018 10:47 AM (aljs9) 246
One of my favorite books is T.R. Fehrenbach's "Comanches: The History of a People. It was first published back in the mid-70s. Recently, I came across it re-titled as "Comanches: The Destruction of a People".
I prefer Pekka Hämäläinen, The Comanche Empire: We Kill You And Take Your Women. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 10:47 AM (6FqZa) 247
Just as an observation on good scientist = atheist and bad scientist = believer. How on earth do they square the circle of life with Darwin (believer)?
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 09:14 AM (MIKMs) People come with different equipment. Some people come with heads that are only capable of one type of thought. Others are only capable of another. Seems to me, this question of how to have a scientific brain and a believing brain is a question for those who are incapable of having both. I never had that problem. It must be a terrible burden to be so limited. Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2018 10:47 AM (cY3LT) 248
>>>My liver couldn't get any wurst.<<<
Yes, but could a wry guy like you still muster what it takes to tap an onion like Kate Upton? Posted by: Fritz at May 13, 2018 10:48 AM (J7XgW) 249
Are we next going to be pun-ished to ride in a tea-cup?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 10:48 AM (HMNwq) 250
MSM: You can't negotiate a deal with Fat Boy. He'll take you to the dry cleaners.
Trump: Hold my non-alcoholic beer! Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:48 AM (pV/54) 251
there are some "cultural quirks" that SJW in the academia simply can't cover up easily.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 13, 2018 10:48 AM (6FqZa) 252
Obviously written by a Moron.
Ordered! Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 10:44 AM (WEBkv) It's something else. Over the top and down the other side. Posted by: Rob Zombie Walt Disney at May 13, 2018 10:48 AM (qhkNP) 253
Sand in your hoo-haw?
Wasn't that a Drifters song ? Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 10:33 AM (+UJer) No.....Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon...... Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2018 10:49 AM (EoRCO) 254
On In Search Of 2200, we will attempt to locate proof that the ill-fated Obama Expedition really existed....
Posted by: zombie Leonard Mimoy at May 13, 2018 10:50 AM (zCyNd) 255
So the culture at the JFK White House appears to have been quite libertine. Thw WH press corps must certainly have known about it. It doesn't sound like something that could be kept secret, what with naked people walking around and all. Naturally, they never bothered to report on it. You'd think that such goings-on would be newsworthy, but perhaps I'm just mistaken.
************** Of course the press corps back then knew what was going on in the JFK White House. I recall seeing interviews decades ago with some of the reporters who were around back then, and they all freely admitted they knew Jack Kennedy was a major league horndog, as were his brothers. But then as now, they were not going to talk about it because Democrat. Some things never change... Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at May 13, 2018 10:50 AM (1bzSL) 256
Science can't answer Why, the most important question of all.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:50 AM (pV/54) 257
Hasn't some guy redone the classic fairy tales to make them less upsetting to kids? Like Hansel and Gretel?
Long ago, although you can still read the originals in German. Cinderella's sister chopped off her heels so she could fit in the slippers. As she's walking down the aisle with the Prince, crows or ravens swoop down and peck her eyes out to point out the deceit. ...and they lived happily ever after. Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2018 10:50 AM (ZpfqO) 258
Snow White's sisters cut the heels and toes off their feet to fit into the slippers.
That stuff has been cleaned up for yonks. Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:44 AM (fuK7c) That was in "Cinderella." Cinderella kicked some ass in the expurgated version I read. I seem to recall that Evil Stepmother got stuffed into a chest and died. Let's not forget the Grampus, that imp that kidnapped and tortured naughty children, when parents told their children that bed-time story. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 13, 2018 10:51 AM (5Yee7) 259
" Am I the only one who thought that was a really nice Moron library at first? "
It looks very similar to mine. In that it has books. Posted by: Science'd! at May 13, 2018 10:51 AM (UdKB7) 260
I've been reading The Blue Nile by Moorehead and find it fascinating. It put me in the mood for 'darkest Africa' stories so I got out one of my copies of King Solomon's Mines. Those books by Haggard are just a delight.
Posted by: JTB at May 13, 2018 10:53 AM (V+03K) 261
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Heh...What is old is new again. Thomas Bowlder thought that William Shakespeare was too naughty for 19th century women and children and produced the expurgated "Family Shakespeare" in 1807. That is were the term "bowlderize" came from. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 13, 2018 10:16 AM (5Yee7) I have a 19th C collection of Aristophanes, which does much the same thing. The translator says he omitted parts because of "differences in manners and morals". There go many of the funniest bits. What's really sad is that the translation is quite lively; more so than more recent ones. (Can't speak to accuracy, as I don't know Greek. I have an English-only brain.) Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 10:53 AM (/ki+X) 262
Science can't answer Why, the most important question of all.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:50 AM (pV/54) I wrote an entire series of novels based on the premise that people should know the 'why?'. So important, rarely explained. Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 13, 2018 10:53 AM (qhkNP) 263
Cinderella's sister chopped off her heels so she could fit in the slippers. As she's walking down the aisle with the Prince, crows or ravens swoop down and peck her eyes out to point out the deceit.
...and they lived happily ever after. Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2018 10:50 AM (ZpfqO) That's not how I tell it...see, there was this girl named Rindercella... Posted by: Archie Campbell at May 13, 2018 10:53 AM (zCyNd) 264
Put me some knowledge here please. I too am trying to clear gas-oil needy outdoor equipment from my life. How large a tree branch would you safely and practically tackle with that 14-inch lectrick chainsaw?
Ps. I found the perfect tool for removing Scotch Broom, a traditional chore this time of year when it blooms. You need to pull it out by the root BTW. The Pullerbear. www.Pullerbear.com Made in Canuckalonia and strong like bull. Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (MjkWd) 265
Oh a big shout out to the French and the Euro weenies who again had this terrorist on a watch list and well WATCHED!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (SjImc) 266
@258, oops that should have been "unexpurgated version." How I wish we had a preview option before hitting Post.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (5Yee7) 267
Science can't answer Why, the most important question of all.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 10:50 AM (pV/54) Neither can parents. Well they could, but, ah...ask your mother. Posted by: almost noontime at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (zCyNd) 268
Cinderella's sister chopped off her heels so she could fit in the slippers.
Yeah, I was mistaken when I said Snow White. That's the origin of the phrase "a little bird told me", btw. Also, the Grimm's wrote the tales in German, but the stories they collected were Frankish. I'm not sure what Frankish means, but that's a good trivium. Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (fuK7c) 269
That's not how I tell it...see, there was this girl named Rindercella...
Posted by: Archie Campbell at May 13, 2018 10:53 AM (zCyNd) Then there was Cinderfella. Oh wait, that was gay porn. Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (qhkNP) 270
244 I think we should put the Muslims in charge of Disney World.
Posted by: Rob Zombie Walt Disney at May 13, 2018 10:47 AM (qhkNP) The Unhappiest Place on Earth Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 10:56 AM (JFO2v) 271
I mentioned this on the overnight but the graphic novel that Ace had mentioned that was being produced by youtube's "divirsity comics" guy caused an uproar with the sjws. Some shop owners said they would ban it and boycott whoever dared to publish it. Then another writer, Mark Waid, got involved in threats.
Now the publisher has dropped it. I wonder when the the book burning starts. Posted by: bananaDream at May 13, 2018 10:57 AM (yRBj9) 272
My only gripe with that library is the stretchers on the benches are on the floor. Seems to me that it would be more practical to have the stretchers higher so that you could either sit on the bench and browse, or use the bench as a bookstand while you are sitting on the floor. I know that probably limits most of us over 29, but people younger than 29 would be perfectly comfortable on the floor and the books would be marginally safer.
I try not to comment on personal libraries any more because envy and covetousness are sins. My duty to warn of slippery leather chairs is done. Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 10:57 AM (MIKMs) 273
Also, the Grimm's wrote the tales in German, but the stories they collected were Frankish. I'm not sure what Frankish means, but that's a good trivium.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (fuK7c) A trivium is a set of three things to put hot pots or pans on, but nobody knows this unless you're really hard up for something to do and play some stupid game. So there. Posted by: Miklosus Pannonicus at May 13, 2018 10:59 AM (zCyNd) 274
I wonder when the the book burning starts.
Posted by: bananaDream at May 13, 2018 10:57 AM (yRBj9) Not long before assorted firearms are liberated from the bottom of local lakes. Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 13, 2018 10:59 AM (qhkNP) 275
"I quit doing them because they were exhausting and sometimes authors wanted to argue with me," she says. "They weren't open to the feedback. They weren't trying to understand the feedback. They were insisting on the rightness of what they were writing."
See here's the problem. This person didn't see their job as an adviser or someone offering their perspective, they saw their job as absolute governor of behavior and writing. That no one can question their judgment and that they were the final arbiter of what goes into a story. She puts it in terms of "feedback" but its clearly just "commands" or she wouldn't mind a discussion about it. Such a person should never have been even approached, and needs to be kept away from power of any kind. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 10:59 AM (39g3+) 276
268 Cinderella's sister chopped off her heels so she could fit in the slippers.
I think the Hungarian version is that Satan is the cause of Cinderella's problems. So in end the end she lives happily ever after and her three step sisters kill themselves. So Cindys is asking Satan I thought you were after me and he says he was but I got 3 deaths with your happiness so I am ok. Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 11:00 AM (JFO2v) 277
I wonder when the the book burning starts.
Posted by: bananaDream at May 13, 2018 10:57 AM (yRBj9) The hostility of Leftists to Diversity of Thought is quite breathtaking to watch. What they would do if they had power to stuff Thought Criminals in the cattle cars isn't hard to imagine. For that reason, I absolutely refuse to surrender a single firearm or cartridge that I own. Molon Labe. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 13, 2018 11:02 AM (5Yee7) 278
Such a person should never have been even approached, and needs to be kept away from power of any kind.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 10:59 AM (39g3+) Or power tools, except I might let her use an old electric toothbrush when it's time to scrub the grout again. Posted by: Good Housekeeping Miklos at May 13, 2018 11:02 AM (zCyNd) 279
Only thing I would do if I was conservator of this library would be to replace the teddy bear with a real cat.
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2018 11:02 AM (aC6Sd) 280
274 I wonder when the the book burning starts.
Posted by: bananaDream at May 13, 2018 10:57 AM (yRBj9) Not long before assorted firearms are liberated from the bottom of local lakes. Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 13, 2018 10:59 AM (qhkNP) I think the triggering event would be the censorship of this here site. Posted by: RI Red at May 13, 2018 11:02 AM (Aoygp) 281
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (MjkWd)
Fiskars has a similar tool and I thought it would do the trick, but the muz must have influenced the Finnish design team because they use plastic where they should have used steel! I may re-engineer it just because I already have it and with enough angle iron and bolts, I might be able to make it useful! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 11:03 AM (n9EOP) 282
Then there was Cinderfella. Oh wait, that was gay porn.
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (qhkNP) "Cinderfella"......Dana Dane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6ETfZie0w Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2018 11:03 AM (EoRCO) 283
Further, I consider any author so willing to change their work to fit the demands of hard left squeaky wheels an inauthentic artist. That's not someone writing their story or telling the tale in their hearts, it is someone writing a product crafted for maximum commercial success, its the difference between Rembrandt and Thomas Kinkade.
I can write books crafted to be the maximum saleability too: the one strong grrl character who overcomes cruel and pointlessly mean people to reveal her awesome nature that saves us all as the chosen one against [insert vampires/zombies/werewolves/hot monster of the day here]. Its easy to crank out whatever latest fad that is selling well at the moment. But the book is going to suck. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:03 AM (39g3+) Posted by: Nancy Kerrigan at May 13, 2018 11:04 AM (QxXRY) 285
I think the Hungarian version is that Satan is the cause of Cinderella's problems. So in end the end she lives happily ever after and her three step sisters kill themselves. So Cindys is asking Satan I thought you were after me and he says he was but I got 3 deaths with your happiness so I am ok.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 11:00 AM (JFO2v) No. The authentic Hungarian version has much more gratification of envy, without any real benefit to anyone. Seeing your enemies simply die? Where's the fun in that? OK, I mean serious fun. Posted by: Medieval Miklos at May 13, 2018 11:05 AM (zCyNd) 286
I think I loaned out my copy of Grimm's. I can locate Chaucer, Toynbee, two versions of Boccaccio, Bulfinch, Virgil, and even a book on Finnish folklore. But so far no bookpile has revealed the Grimm's
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 11:06 AM (HMNwq) 287
Science can't answer Why, the most important question of all.
===== Every 4yo evah. Why and Are We There Yet are the keys to the mysteries of the universe. Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 11:06 AM (MIKMs) 288
200 The level of censorship that younger generations willingly embrace is truly insane. The world has become ripe for another goosestepping madman.
Posted by: Fritz at May 13, 2018 10:30 AM (J7XgW) Oh yes! Sexual behavior rules that no one can follow. Free speech zones, are you fukn kidding me? Censorship and banning of speakers. And the tranny culture promotion is a total joke. Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 11:06 AM (JFO2v) 289
There were several great small movies last year.
I, Tonya was one. A lot of fun, the greatest bad stage mom ever, a subtle commentary on class, and the best ass in the business after six months of intense training. Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 11:07 AM (pV/54) 290
But so far no bookpile has revealed the Grimm's
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 11:06 AM (HMNwq) Frisk the Uzbeks. Posted by: Miklos, from the West Balkans at May 13, 2018 11:07 AM (zCyNd) Posted by: 42 at May 13, 2018 11:07 AM (UdKB7) 292
When an author writes a book, its not a collection of modular events that can be shifted around however the current trend of prudish killjoys and censors demand. Each part of a good book serves the whole book and fits together in a whole like a jigsaw puzzle. You can't just take puzzle pieces from a different box and stick them into the picture, even if they are the same size and shape.
The idea that you submit your book to a panel of 'experts' to control any heretical ideas you may have written can only come from someone who doesn't understand art or fiction. You can manage to create something doing this, but its going to be like someone who makes puzzles out of white pieces. There's nothing really there to enjoy, but its perfectly interchangable. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:07 AM (39g3+) 293
Then there was Cinderfella. Oh wait, that was gay porn.
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 13, 2018 10:55 AM (qhkNP) Wait, I thought 'Cinderfella' was a Jerry Lewis movie. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:08 AM (Fwyn7) Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 11:09 AM (MIKMs) 295
best ass in the business after six months of intense training.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 11:07 AM (pV/54) Hey, no one told me! Posted by: RI Red at May 13, 2018 11:09 AM (Aoygp) 296
Wait, I thought 'Cinderfella' was a Jerry Lewis movie.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:08 AM (Fwyn7) I thought I made it up. I think it was jerry lewis movie. Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 13, 2018 11:10 AM (qhkNP) 297
I've been rereading the Judge Dee mysteries, which I recommend. Dee was an historical person (7th C), but also became famous as the greatest Chinese detective. The author started by just translating an original Chinese mystery, then wrote a bunch; the earlier ones following the original model, use actual old plots. Of course, original stories were written in the Ming era, though they are set in the Tang, and like Western writers of the day, there was no sense of anachronism.
One fun thing is the lack of SJW perspective. Dee is a 100% Confucian mandarin. His comments on Taoists and (worse) Buddhists are funny. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:10 AM (/ki+X) 298
So John Kerry just left a meeting @ LAvenue in Paris w/3 Iranians. A friend was sitting next to their table and heard JK blasting @realDonaldTrump. The Iranians had a 5 person security detail and left in diplomatic vehicles. Is he FARA registered?
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 11:10 AM (JFO2v) 299
I think I loaned out my copy of Grimm's. I can locate Chaucer, Toynbee, two versions of Boccaccio, Bulfinch, Virgil, and even a book on Finnish folklore. But so far no bookpile has revealed the Grimm's
I've been big on free Kindle stuff lately what with (a) being broke and (ii) free being good. There's a Joseph Campbell thing on Comparative Mythology that's great. It's mostly an overview of a course he used to give. The Joseph Campbell Society promises that more is coming. I hope soon. Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 11:11 AM (fuK7c) 300
Anybody remember Morey Amsterdam's "Mixed Up Fairy Tails For Smart Kids?" Those were a hoot. I think they are on the utoob.
Posted by: f'd at May 13, 2018 11:12 AM (UdKB7) 301
298 So John Kerry just left a meeting @ LAvenue in Paris w/3 Iranians. A friend was sitting next to their table and heard JK blasting @realDonaldTrump. The Iranians had a 5 person security detail and left in diplomatic vehicles. Is he FARA registered?
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 13, 2018 11:10 AM (JFO2v) Arrest him for Logan Act violation just to make a point. And to make heads explode. Posted by: josephistan at May 13, 2018 11:13 AM (ANIFC) 302
Fractured Fairy Tales are the best. Moose and Squirrel said so.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 11:13 AM (MIKMs) 303
I came across a Youtube video called "Making Manuscripts" about illuminated manuscripts. It starts with preparing the hide and all the steps to make vellum, making the ink, how to prep a quill for use, making ink and paints, even how to apply gold leaf. It was fascinating.
Posted by: JTB at May 13, 2018 11:13 AM (V+03K) 304
I met Joseph Campbell once.
I'd been a regular True-Believer up until I heard his spiel live, but found him curiously air-headed and RC-lite hippy-dippy in person. It was a blow. Kind of a hero with a thousand and two-faces. Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 13, 2018 11:14 AM (H5rtT) 305
If The Shoe Fits - a limerick Ah, the sweet tale of poor Cinderella A story with just one sequela In a pumpkin-shaped carriage She went seeking marriage Ended up with a prince of a fella Posted by: Muldoon at May 13, 2018 11:15 AM (m45I2) 306
Sorry it was "Mixed Up Stories For Smart Kids". What can I say that was like last century. Here's Cinderella:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn6IW7eeeQ0 Posted by: f'd at May 13, 2018 11:16 AM (UdKB7) 307
I believe there's a "woke" version of a classic coming out. I can't remember if it's "Ann of Green Gables" that's being butchered or "Little Women."
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 10:21 AM (WEBkv) 'Little Women'. I mentioned this on the book thread couple three weeks ago and missed the obvious joke, 'Little Wymyn'. It's all diversified up with lesbian and multi-racial characters and sure to be a big hit. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:16 AM (Fwyn7) 308
Kind of a hero with a thousand and two-faces.
Oh, that's too bad. I mean, I'm glad to know that but I didn't want to know that. Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 11:16 AM (fuK7c) 309
I've been rereading the Judge Dee mysteries, which I recommend. Dee was an historical person (7th C), but also became famous as the greatest Chinese detective.
I'll have to dig those up. I've read a long series of mysteries about Sir John Fielding, the guy who created the Bow Street Runners, who were the precursors to London's first police force. He was a blind man, the brother of Henry Fielding (who wrote Tom Jones). I like those kind of mystery stories if well done; they tend to be very centered in their time and historically written rather than someone just inventing a character in the past then writing modern stories. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:16 AM (39g3+) Posted by: Dino Martin, in the Lounge at May 13, 2018 11:16 AM (zCyNd) 311
Arrest him for
Probably has more severe penalties. You could break him on the wheel. A bicycle wheel... Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 13, 2018 11:17 AM (H5rtT) 312
Ok, off to the real world. See y'all later.
Posted by: RI Red at May 13, 2018 11:17 AM (Aoygp) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 11:18 AM (RJcOX) 314
You could break him on the wheel. A bicycle wheel...
Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 13, 2018 11:17 AM (H5rtT) Federal regulations require that all persons being broken on the wheel wear a helmet and reflective vest. Posted by: Miklos from OSHA at May 13, 2018 11:19 AM (zCyNd) 315
I'm not sure what Frankish means, but that's a good trivium.
Beanish means it smells like farts. Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 11:19 AM (+UJer) 316
When Muldoon hits your eye As the limerick guy Thats-a moron Posted by: Dino Martin, in the Lounge at May 13, 2018 11:16 AM (zCyNd) ===== Just had to requote. Good job! Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 11:19 AM (MIKMs) 317
God forgive me, but I still enjoy reading "Cheaper By The Dozens.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 11:18 AM (RJcOX) A friend of mine who is an industrial engineer says Gilbreth is still mentioned in the IE textbooks he used in college. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:21 AM (Fwyn7) 318
Bandersnatch re: Joseph Campbell
Amazon video has Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers series available. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 11:21 AM (HMNwq) 319
The talk of Holmes reminds me of a true and important event in my life. (Hope I haven't told this before.)
When I was in 3rd grade, I had an excellent teacher. She had a bookcase full of books which we could just bring to her and ask to read. she noted who had what, and always let us take them. (My 2nd grade teacher had done the same - lucky 2 years in a row. Of course both had a few years on them.) Anyway, 1 I read was an edited down version of 2 Holmes stories. I was swept away. Later, I mentioned this to my grandmother, who gave me a copy of the Adventures. By this time I was in 4th grade; with a very different teacher. She found out about it, and told my mother to take it away from me as too advanced for my grade level. (! ?? !!!) Fortunately, dad called BS on that. She was a rotten teacher, and proved she was the sort who should have a restraining order keeping her at least 100 yards from any school. But I cannot deny she taught me one very important lesson. Many teachers are actively engaged in preventing kids learning anything whatsoever, and that goes double if they are learning on their own. The seem threatened by the very idea. This would have been in 1962. I encountered many more over the years, and see no evidence things have gotten better, but much that they've gotten worse. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:21 AM (/ki+X) 320
Muldoon has a limerick schtick
It seems a mere verberal trick But though it looks sassy He is way to classy To just end a rhyme with "dick". Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 13, 2018 11:22 AM (fuK7c) Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 13, 2018 11:23 AM (H5rtT) 322
Amazon video has Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers series available.
===== Stringer is right. Saw most of that series and it turned me off. Nothing like his writing at the time. Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 11:24 AM (MIKMs) 323
302 Fractured Fairy Tales are the best. Moose and Squirrel said so.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 11:13 AM (MIKMs) The greatest of all TV shows. There are 2 versions of Puss in Boots, the better is the one including the line "A million pazoozas is a lot of pazoozas." It's probably the best of the fairy tales. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:24 AM (/ki+X) 324
"Sensitivity readers" at least explains the inept politically correct tweaks that get thrown into movies. I guess the scripts are fed to these people and get all these adjustments grafted onto them, so that an otherwise entertaining story becomes an annoying ham-handed propaganda. Authors and publishers should just have the guts to ignore these reviewers. How do sad puppies do sales-wise in comparison to those who remain on the politically correct plantation?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2018 11:24 AM (/qEW2) 325
'Little Women'. I mentioned this on the book thread couple three weeks ago and missed the obvious joke, 'Little Wymyn'. It's all diversified up with lesbian and multi-racial characters and sure to be a big hit.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:16 AM (Fwyn7) -------------------------- Oh, yeah, that's right, it was you. Oh, don't worry, I'm sure the book will be a top seller because there will be more than a few "woke" school districts that will make it required reading. Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 11:25 AM (WEBkv) 326
I honestly think Campbell has done more harm to writing than any other single person with his trying to reduce storytelling to a mathematical formula. Far too many stories completely violate every rule he lays down, and far too many people have tried shoehorning their idea into this pattern like its a magical device to write a story.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:25 AM (39g3+) 327
Anyway, 1 I read was an edited down version of 2 Holmes stories. I was
swept away. Later, I mentioned this to my grandmother, who gave me a copy of the Adventures. By this time I was in 4th grade; with a very different teacher. She found out about it, and told my mother to take it away from me as too advanced for my grade level. (! ?? !!!) What, did she think you would go blind or something? She was a rotten teacher, Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:21 AM (/ki+X) Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. (SWIDT?) Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:26 AM (Fwyn7) 328
Thanks for the tipoff on 2nd ampersand Charles. There's one near me, I'll try to check it out. Maybe later today.
Posted by: Bert G at May 13, 2018 11:27 AM (yzxic) 329
Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. (SWIDT?) Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:26 AM (Fwyn7) --------- Are we allowed to say 'shit' in the reading thread? Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 11:27 AM (MVjcR) 330
I'll have to dig those up. I've read a long series of mysteries about Sir John Fielding, the guy who created the Bow Street Runners, who were the precursors to London's first police force. He was a blind man, the brother of Henry Fielding (who wrote Tom Jones). I like those kind of mystery stories if well done; they tend to be very centered in their time and historically written rather than someone just inventing a character in the past then writing modern stories.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:16 AM (39g3+) John Dixon Carr wrote several. As always with Carr, it's the puzzle which is central. But he was pretty meticulous about history. And a conservative to boot. Another conservative mystery writer was Andrew Garve. His Ashes of Loda and Murder Through the Looking Glass, both set in the USSR, should be fun for any moron. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:28 AM (/ki+X) 331
Are we allowed to say 'shit' in the reading thread?
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 11:27 AM (MVjcR) I thought in a high class thread like this, the style book would call for the term "fecal matter"! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 11:29 AM (n9EOP) 332
Whan the drouth of Sonday thred is perced to the root
And bathed is the Horde in in such liquor Of which vertu engendred is the verse To Muldoon, of limerick without end Do the humble pilgrims wend Posted by: Jeff Chaucer at May 13, 2018 11:29 AM (zCyNd) Posted by: Diogenes at May 13, 2018 11:29 AM (0tfLf) 334
327 Anyway, 1 I read was an edited down version of 2 Holmes stories. I was
swept away. Later, I mentioned this to my grandmother, who gave me a copy of the Adventures. By this time I was in 4th grade; with a very different teacher. She found out about it, and told my mother to take it away from me as too advanced for my grade level. (! ?? !!!) Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:21 AM (/ki+X) What a dipshit. When I was in 4th grade (would have been 1964 or 1965), I took a reading comprehension test and they told me I was reading at the 11th grade level. They thought it was great. They *encouraged* me to read more. That teacher you had should've been flogged. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:30 AM (Fwyn7) 335
How do sad puppies do sales-wise in comparison to those who remain on the politically correct plantation?
In comic books at least, they sell very, very poorly. And what's worse, is that they kill formerly successful titles. For example, the Iron Man when they had Tony inexplicably give his armor to a young teenaged black girl to wear, people were curious at first, and bought a fair number of titles (for modern sales). But the sales rapidly plummeted to a tenth their previous levels. Its been the same for every SJW comic that Marvel put out. Initial curiosity (people are wiling to give girl Thor a chance) and then revulsion and rejection because they suck. The truth is, if you're writing to a template and to moralize or change the world instead of tell the story and entertain, people can sense it and its going to suck. Almost nobody in the history of mankind has pulled it off, and they only did so by being primarily entertaining and having a good story to tell that happened to also have a message. For example, for every Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels, there have been 92,000,000 tracts by some religion or political organization trying to Change The World and save you from yourself. And they all sucked. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:30 AM (39g3+) 336
Perhaps the term 'night soil' is more inclined towards your prevarications and proclivities of sensitivity?
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Greetings, George LeS:
# 297 at May 13, 2018 11:10 AM (/ki+X) Dee shows up in some Chinese movies available over the internet as "Detective Dee and ..." . Pretty good stuff. Also there's a Korean knockoff too. Posted by: 11B40 at May 13, 2018 11:31 AM (evgyj) 338
333 Escaped oafs?
I like it. Posted by: Diogenes at May 13, 2018 11:29 AM (0tfLf) It's an acronym for 'ace of spades'. Believe it. Or not. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:31 AM (Fwyn7) 339
Most of us have 'bad teacher' stories, but I do have to say that for some reason, our little town had a confluence of great to good teachers in elementary school while mine were growing up. Lotsa higher degrees, don't call them 'doctor'; but really a lot of fun and open to differing theories and methods. Making teaching an enjoyable and rewarding profession.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2018 11:32 AM (MIKMs) 340
336 Perhaps the term 'night soil' is more inclined towards your prevarications and proclivities of sensitivity?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 13, 2018 11:30 AM (HMNwq) -------- Much more refined! Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 11:32 AM (MVjcR) Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:32 AM (Fwyn7) 342
The truth is, if you're writing to a template and to moralize or change the world instead of tell the story and entertain, people can sense it and its going to suck. Almost nobody in the history of mankind has pulled it off, and they only did so by being primarily entertaining and having a good story to tell that happened to also have a message.
The Wizard of Oz actually has a few good messages, clearer if anyone actually read the book. Posted by: Miklos. behind the curtain at May 13, 2018 11:33 AM (zCyNd) 343
I never had any bad teachers, but I had a some indifferent teachers, people who just showed up and went through the motions, repeating their lesson plan and going home. I had some incompetent teachers who didn't really know what they were doing but tried.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:33 AM (39g3+) 344
The best way to destroy children's love of reading is to teach it and try to push or punish it. Let them find it themselves. I never got a thing out of any English course I took. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 13, 2018 11:33 AM (RJcOX) 345
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:30 AM (39g3+)
Speaking of satire, My Hero Magadamia looks like it might have a good enough story to last even after no one recognizes the (currently quite identifiable) swamp creatures or knows *why* Miku kun has electric powers. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2018 11:34 AM (rp9xB) 346
Oh, well played, sir!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:32 AM (Fwyn7) So, you want the widow's number, right? Posted by: Jeff Chaucer at May 13, 2018 11:35 AM (zCyNd) 347
Are we allowed to say 'shit' in the reading thread? Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 11:27 AM (MVjcR) I think you can when you're quoting an adage. Speaking of bowdlerization, if you watch an old WWII movie, from the time or the decade after, you'll often hear men in the background singing "Bless 'em All." Every time that happened, dad (Navy pilot in WWII) would cackle. He told me what the real words were; I expect the average moron can figure out what word "Bless" replaced. (You can f find both versions online.) Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:36 AM (/ki+X) 348
The Wizard of Oz actually has a few good messages, clearer if anyone actually read the book.
Its pretty wonderful stuff, I read it again recently. Its obvious the book is meant for little children but its charming for anyone. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:37 AM (39g3+) 349
My wife always does things at the last minute...makes me nervous, so I am hiding in the bedroom with my cats till I told to start BBQing. Oh and sipping a bit of booze
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 11:37 AM (SjImc) 350
I've been reading a really fascinating book titled A Child of Hitler, When God Wore a Swastika by Alfred Heck. It's all about Sensitivity Readers making sure books conform to the government's ideas of freedom.
It's also about a Hitler Youth serving with the Luftwaffe and then being tasked with defending his hometown as the Americans arrive. Posted by: William Alan Webb at May 13, 2018 11:37 AM (OhYcy) 351
Do the lawnmowers' manufacturers hire sensitivity readers for their owners' manuals? If not, this seems problematic.
Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:37 AM (/ki+X) 352
Are we allowed to say 'shit' in the reading thread?
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 11:27 M (MVjcR) Fuck, no Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 11:38 AM (SjImc) 353
The truth is, if you're writing to a template and to moralize or change the world instead of tell the story and entertain, people can sense it and its going to suck.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:30 AM (39g3+) Yeah, like most Christian fiction I've read. This is why I believe progressivism is one of Protestant Christianity's unwanted stepchildren. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:38 AM (Fwyn7) 354
352 Are we allowed to say 'shit' in the reading thread?
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 11:27 M (MVjcR) Fuck, no Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 11:38 AM (SjImc) Alright, knock off your goddamn swearing, NGU. It sounds like hell. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:39 AM (Fwyn7) 355
Things like "sensitivity readers" and putting "trigger warnings" in books are another reason why I recommend self publishing to everyone. Don't put your book before a board of commissars who censor it and then give you 10% of the sales price.
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Are we allowed to say 'shit' in the reading thread?
Posted by: Weasel at May 13, 2018 11:27 M (MVjcR) Fuck, no Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 11:38 AM (SjImc) That has got to be the Book Thread Winner for the day! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 11:41 AM (n9EOP) 357
Family, With Children in Tow, Carry Out Suicide Bombings At 3 Churches in Indonesia
The family that blows up together . . . . I got nothing. They blow up so quickly. ![]() Posted by: andycanuck at May 13, 2018 11:42 AM (Evws/) 358
From what I am seeing, I do NOT see any dems going to Jerusalem for the opening of the embassy there...But yeah they support Israel? My ass
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 11:42 AM (SjImc) 359
This is why I believe progressivism is one of Protestant Christianity's unwanted stepchildren.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:38 AM (Fwyn7) So you're just going to single out the Prots? Posted by: Frankie at May 13, 2018 11:43 AM (n9EOP) 360
I had a nun in fifth grade who was borderline certifiable. My younger sister had her two years late and she was certifiable, and was finally cashiered out, as certified.
To this day, Little Sis and I share a bond over this apart from our other siblings. "But you didn't have Charles Edwards" shuts down all whingeing. Posted by: Ignoramus at May 13, 2018 11:44 AM (pV/54) 361
337 Greetings, George LeS:
# 297 at May 13, 2018 11:10 AM (/ki+X) Dee shows up in some Chinese movies available over the internet as "Detective Dee and ..." . Pretty good stuff. Also there's a Korean knockoff too. Posted by: 11B40 at May 13, 2018 11:31 AM (evgyj) I'll have to look those up. Did you watch "Rome" on HBO? One of the first things I noticed is that Titus Pulo was really the same character as Dee's lieutenant Ma Joong. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 11:44 AM (/ki+X) 362
Surprahz surprahz surprahz. The Paris attacker was a known wolf, a Chechen on file in their database as a suspected extremist.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2018 11:45 AM (/qEW2) 363
a Chechen on file in their database as a suspected extremist.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2018 11:45 AM (/qEW2) Probably still on file as a suspected extremist... Posted by: Miklos, day tripping at May 13, 2018 11:46 AM (zCyNd) 364
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:38 AM (Fwyn7)
So you're just going to single out the Prots? Posted by: Frankie at May 13, 2018 11:43 AM (n9EOP) I believe I am. And I'm a Prot. I can see the same holy-rolling, the same "we have to change the world" fervor. The direct ancestor of 'by any means necessary' is Carrie Nation. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:47 AM (Fwyn7) 365
Surprahz surprahz surprahz. The Paris attacker was a known wolf, a Chechen on file in their database as a suspected extremist.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2018 11:45 AM (/qEW2) Why it's almost like all the surveillance worldwide assets are focused on the pesky citizens not the terrorists! Much like a feudal or totalitarian system would implement surveillance! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 11:48 AM (n9EOP) 366
I believe I am. And I'm a Prot. I can see the same holy-rolling, the same "we have to change the world" fervor. The direct ancestor of 'by any means necessary' is Carrie Nation.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:47 AM (Fwyn7) Cotton and/or Increase Mather, more like. Posted by: Miklos, daywalker for a day at May 13, 2018 11:48 AM (zCyNd) 367
Live: Embassy celebrations begin
Watch LIVE as Israel celebrates the true friendship with the United States and the transfer of the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Me no see any democrats there? Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 11:51 AM (SjImc) 368
Yeah, like most Christian fiction I've read.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:38 AM (Fwyn7) I didn't know this was even a thing, but the more I think about it, I guess there is. . .The Days of Elijah by Mark Goodwin would fall into that category, though I read the series more for the dystopian aspect. Posted by: Bert G at May 13, 2018 11:53 AM (yzxic) 369
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This is such a wonderful/dangerous thread. If you knew how many unread book piles I had...
Anyway, I'm trucking along with the Nero Wolfe books. As mysteries, they mostly work still. As snapshots of time, they're remarkable. Thanks again to whoever here got me onto them. I just finished 'In the Best Families' and it might be the best one, though it's one of the few books that does require you to read some previous novels to get the context of why Wolfe does some of what he does. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 13, 2018 11:53 AM (xJa6I) 371
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I hope you are having a better mothers day than I am - awful headache I read a fantastically funny book this week that would send sensitivity readers into a catatonic shock review in nic Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 13, 2018 11:53 AM (hMwEB) 372
prohibition was the first big "progressive" triumph, driven by liberal Christians. Its the same mindset now that bans dresses and books and movies and certain toys in the name of saving us from ourselves. There were old rules in places called Blue Laws that were about moral behavior: businesses must close on Sundays, no alcohol may be sold in the city limits, etc.
That's the same thing we're getting now, except they aren't onlyl negative. Now there's positive blue laws; rules on what you must do as well as must not. You must put solar panels on your house. You must recycle. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:54 AM (39g3+) 373
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Posted by: Infidel at May 13, 2018 11:53 AM (a3OL0) It's just ending but any of the Israeli News Links Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2018 11:54 AM (SjImc) 374
nood ungrateful krauts
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The direct ancestor of 'by any means necessary' is Carrie Nation. Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:47 AM Carrie Nation wasn't much of a writer - but she was a damn fine performance artist. Posted by: Hands at May 13, 2018 11:56 AM (EzdLW) 376
willowed, of course
Posted by: Hands at May 13, 2018 11:57 AM (EzdLW) 377
Most recent book I finished was Black Alley, on of the last Mickey Spillane books. Believe it or not he was writing Mike Hammer into the 1990s, and someone is still writing them to this day. Mike has to be like 97 years old, but after a certain point, mystery writers stop aging their heroes because it gets ridiculous.
The book is a major departure from the usual Hammer stories: he starts out nearly dead and is in very bad shape physically through the whole story. So he has to outsmart his opponents instead of bulldozing through them. Not Spillane's best work but its an interesting experiment with the character. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 11:58 AM (39g3+) 378
I teach science and religion, so I'll be reading A Scientist in Search of God. If I might make a few other recommendations on this subject:
Philip J. Sampson, Six Modern Myths about Christianity and Western Civilization. An outstanding book that I use as one of my textbooks. Ronald L. Numbers, ed., Galileo Goes to Jail and Other Myths about Science and Religion. I think this book is the proceedings from a conference, and some of the chapters are questionable. But it's definitely worth the read. And Numbers is probably the greatest historian of science and religion after David Lindberg. Speaking of which... David C. Lindberg and Ronald L. Numbers, God and Nature: Historical Essays on the Encounter between Christianity and Science. David C. Lindberg and Ronald L. Numbers, When Science and Christianity Meet. James Hannam, God's Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science. Hannam writes the Quodlibeta blog which I sometimes contribute to, although we haven't been putting much up for a while now. God's Philosophers is the British title, the American title is The Genesis of Science, although it always seems less expensive to get the British one. Alvin Plantinga, Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism. Plantinga is one of the greatest living philosophers. His thesis is that there is superficial conflict but deep concord between science and religion, and superficial concord but deep conflict between science and naturalism (naturalism being the view that nature is all that exists: no supernatural entities need apply). This is not an overview by any stretch of the imagination, it expresses one side of the debate, and there are plenty of philosophers who disagree. But it's still very enlightening and worth the read. Posted by: Jim S. at May 13, 2018 12:04 PM (ynUnH) 379
His thesis is that there is superficial conflict but deep concord between science and religion, and superficial concord but deep conflict between science and naturalism (naturalism being the view that nature is all that exists: no supernatural entities need apply).
He's absolutely right. The conflict is not between science and faith, its between two faiths, one masquerading as science. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 12:07 PM (39g3+) 380
This is why I believe progressivism is one of Protestant Christianity's unwanted stepchildren."
There's a relationship, but it's different than what you're thinking. Progressivism takes the transformative, redemptive message of Christianity, based on man's relationship with God, and perverts it, transforming it into a promise of Redemption that comes from using force to control the actions of other men. You could say that every belief of the left is based on perverting honest and serious moral beliefs and turning them on their heads. Christianity is focused on personal behavior, as judged by God, progressivism ignores personal behavior and focuses only on Public Behavior, as judged by Themselves. (personal behavior only matters to them when it goes public and causes them a political problem, as with Schneiderman) Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 12:12 PM (V2Yro) 381
Much like a feudal or totalitarian system would implement surveillance!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 11:48 AM (n9EOP) That is a bizarre (but all too common) notion of feudalism. It was the opposite of totalitarian. Its real weakness was excessive diffusion of power. It was a situation where, essentially, anyone could declare a sanctuary policy. And therefore, despite being theoretically completely law-bound, it was hard to actually enforce the rule of law. But a "feudal despot" is a flat-out oxymoron. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 12:12 PM (/ki+X) 382
Apparently this "sensitivity reading" only goes in one direction. I've been reading a book by a NYT best-selling author. Most of it takes place in a coal mining town where the characters fit every stereotype of the Left: They live in trailers, are overweight, violent, dumb, suspicious of outsiders, eat only fried food, smoke cigarettes, are addicted to opioids and meth and start their day at the methadone clinic. And, of course, they would all be better off if the coal mine closed.
They have to be rescued by a smart, heroic ex-government employee and his equally smart, heroic inside-the-beltway friends. Plenty of stereotypes there, but I suspect there's no SJW twitter mob going after the author or publisher. Posted by: girldog at May 13, 2018 12:12 PM (g5YYQ) Posted by: Jack Fisher at May 13, 2018 12:19 PM (D17oQ) 384
I believe I am. And I'm a Prot. I can see the same holy-rolling, the same "we have to change the world" fervor. The direct ancestor of 'by any means necessary' is Carrie Nation.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 11:47 AM (Fwyn7) How much of that is just the watering down of Protestantism in the educated classes? C S Lewis could certainly write, but he was alive before it became total, back in the time when it was possible to be both Anglican and Christian. But the Carrie Nation type isn't just limited to Protestants. We had Savonarola, after all. And then there is about 90% of Islam... I've also been reading Lewis's and Waugh's lately. There was plenty of quality Protestant literature before the 20th C. But a lot of it goes unnoticed, because the language used is different than that used nowadays by Evangelicals, who are the only significant body of believing Protestants around. Lewis points out how much it runs through Jane Austen, for instance. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 12:22 PM (/ki+X) 385
383 a strict lurker, I'd like to join AoSHQ Moron Horde.
so, "Hi". Posted by: Jack Fisher at May 13, 2018 12:19 PM (D17oQ) Loved your HMS Dreadnought. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 12:23 PM (/ki+X) 386
Not sure you can credit legalistic American Christianity with progressivism. Progressivism goes beyond didactic storytelling. It's more subtle, indirect, postmodern. It's also much broader in scope beyond storytelling. It revises history and distorts news. I think they would have developed the same techniques regardless of whether or not there were zealous legalists.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2018 12:24 PM (/qEW2) 387
382 Apparently this "sensitivity reading" only goes in one direction.
Exactly right. I've been reading a book by a NYT best-selling author. My condolences. Most of it takes place in a coal mining town where the characters fit every stereotype of the Left: They live in trailers, are overweight, violent, dumb, suspicious of outsiders, eat only fried food, smoke cigarettes, are addicted to opioids and meth and start their day at the methadone clinic. And, of course, they would all be better off if the coal mine closed. Posted by: girldog at May 13, 2018 12:12 PM (g5YYQ) Good Lord, how can you read such dreck? Is it a school assignment? Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 12:25 PM (Fwyn7) 388
Are we allowed to say 'shit' in the reading thread?
Posted by: Weasel Yeah, but don't throw any. Posted by: JT at May 13, 2018 12:28 PM (+UJer) 389
Progressivism takes the transformative, redemptive message of Christianity, based on man's relationship with God, and perverts it, transforming it into a promise of Redemption that comes from using force to control the actions of other men.
Yes, this is why progressives always misread the bible to endorse socialism. Christ's rebukes, sayings, etc. are exhortations to individuals. But progressives distort this and pretend he's laying out government policy. Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2018 12:29 PM (/qEW2) Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 13, 2018 12:32 PM (H5rtT) 391
the huge flaw that Liberal Christians have been making with regards to public policy (and I would say it started with the Victorians)
Original, biblical Christianity *always* was centered on Morality as a personal choice; in fact it was recognized that it had no value whatsoever unless it was undertaken as an honest, personal choice. Never once did any of the early Christians yearn for or ask for Government to use force to make everyone follow them. Government is Force. Morality can *never* be imposed by Force, only obedience. But it is always the hubris of wealthy and powerful people to tell themselves that they can prove their own "morality" by using force to impose their own views on everyone else. That's not Christianity - that's just wealthy and powerful people doing the same thing they have done since we all lived in mud huts and they lived in the stone tower on the hill. And "religion" becomes nothing more than a convenient excuse to let them do what they were always going to do anyways. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2018 12:33 PM (V2Yro) 392
Oh dear, Weasel and I forgot to have a sensitivity reader review The Deplorable Gourmet before we published. Apologies if we were politically incorrect.
BAHAHAHAHA! Posted by: bluebell at May 13, 2018 12:37 PM (oMtOd) 393
Amazon just delivered my copy of Thump: the First Bundred Days by the same team that wrote and drew My Hero Magadamia. It's a bunny-themed children's book about Trump and Pence and the road to the whitehouse. The art is beautiful and even the dedications are a hoot.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2018 12:53 PM (rp9xB) 394
392 Oh dear, Weasel and I forgot to have a sensitivity reader review The Deplorable Gourmet before we published. Apologies if we were politically incorrect.
BAHAHAHAHA! Posted by: bluebell at May 13, 2018 12:37 PM (oMtOd) ---------------------- Reminds me that I need to get a few more copies of TDG and distribute them among my more liberal relatives. Maybe strategically leave TDG laying around my place of work. Probably create more of a furor than an armed muslim showing up at the front door.. Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 12:57 PM (WEBkv) 395
210 3 Am reading Patrick O'Brien' Treason Harbour of the Aubrey/ Maturin series. Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2018 08:56 AM (aC6Sd) Wray is probably the biggest POS in the entire series. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 10:34 AM (/ki+X) Wray, FBI. Same-o same-o. Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 13, 2018 12:57 PM (e1mEI) 396
Posted by: bluebell at May 13, 2018 12:37 PM (oMtOd)
I started redacting my copy and am now buying magic markers by the gross and I still haven't finished! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 12:57 PM (n9EOP) 397
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 13, 2018 12:25 PM (Fwyn7)
-------------- I've gotten the point that "New York Times Bestseller List" is a disqualification from my reading list. Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 13, 2018 12:58 PM (WEBkv) 398
I started redacting my copy and am now buying magic markers by the gross and I still haven't finished!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 12:57 PM (n9EOP) -------- I sometimes wonder if anyone stumbled onto the cookbook on Amazon and ordered it without knowing anything about us. They would be very confused, and that's putting it mildly. Posted by: bluebell at May 13, 2018 01:04 PM (oMtOd) 399
Glad to see the progressive Christianity comments presented here. Lots of valid points, and much to chew on. The key point "I" think is that Christ talked to the individual telling them that they had the choice to live a moral life and should do so. He did not say "Caesar will, and should, enforce morality as he currently defines it!"
One thing is certain and that is "Never miss a Book Thread!" Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 01:04 PM (n9EOP) 400
They would be very confused, and that's putting it mildly.
Posted by: bluebell at May 13, 2018 01:04 PM (oMtOd) Confused... but able to set a great table! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 01:05 PM (n9EOP) 401
Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 12:12 PM (/ki+X)
Going to think about that. Offhand, within the local fiefdom, I don't think the vassals had a lot of flexibility and might not even be able to leave. So it seems totalitarian but not on the Nation State scale that essentially devours many many fiefdoms. Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 01:13 PM (n9EOP) Posted by: Mark Hudson at May 13, 2018 01:18 PM (+3bHL) 403
Read the first part of Thump. It's in verse! Very, very, *very*, bad verse. The rhymes are strained, the metre is strained, I am cringing and laughing hysterically at the same time.
The art work on the other hand is just as lovely as expected. The juxtaposition of beautiful art and horrible poetry is something I think the Horde can definitely appreciate. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2018 01:18 PM (rp9xB) 404
Plenty of stereotypes there, but I suspect there's no SJW twitter mob going after the author or publisher.
Yeah that's an angle they are perfectly fine with, no need to check those type of bias stories Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 13, 2018 02:11 PM (39g3+) 405
Be sure to check FB or twitter, all the smart people tell me I must have a presence there as well.
Posted by: Mark Hudson at May 13, 2018 02:34 PM (+3bHL) 406
401 Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 12:12 PM (/ki+X)
Going to think about that. Offhand, within the local fiefdom, I don't think the vassals had a lot of flexibility and might not even be able to leave. So it seems totalitarian but not on the Nation State scale that essentially devours many many fiefdoms. Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 13, 2018 01:13 PM (n9EOP) Even on the local level despotism was almost impossible. Remember, almost everyone had some sort of feudal or at least familial connection with someone else. Remember that a vassal was, by definition, armed. Try to be too overbearing, and it's going to come down on your head. Add in the fact that there would be the Church (itself constantly warring within itself), and you've got a very much constrained situation. A further point is that it's actually harder to sustain serious oppression over people you live among (they may start peeing in your soup) in a world where combat was hand-to-hand, and the situation is very different. Really, totalitarianism is a kind of modern invention. (Thanks a lot, France.) Prior to the French Left, almost all powerful people really did seek legitimacy in the idea that they were protecting those under them. After 1789, there arose the idea that legitimacy came from your commitment to fundamentally control those you ruled. Note the change from "ruler" to "leader"; the latter implies you are leading them somewhere. That's in principle; in fact it meant you were at war with your people. Posted by: George LeS at May 13, 2018 02:40 PM (/ki+X) 407
Well, you know how it is with Jews. You start accepting Jews and next thing you're accepting Christians.
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We recently discovered a "2nd and Charles" store had taken over the building formerly used by Hastings (where I'd buy used DVDs) in Conroe, Texas. We loved the store, and I bought quite a few books there.
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