#MuhPrinciples: NeverTrumpers Decide It's Now Not About the Crime, It's About the Sex

NeverTrumpers, as a group, maintained, like most Republicans, that Clinton's sexual dalliances were not the serious problem -- not commendable behavior, to be sure ("simply reprehensible," as Democrats looking for a half-in-half-out position would bleat), but also not really the concern of the public, at least not in any official sense.

Personally, I wasn't lying when I maintained that. I did not care that Clinton had an affair with Monica Lewinsky, whether in the Oval Office or not; I knew about his history from The New Republic, which supported him but frequently alluded to the almost-certainly-true rumors of rampant infidelity in his past.

What bothered me was the crime -- he lied to a federal judge when he could easily just settle without admitting anything, just saying "I'm settling so I can focus on the job the American people elected me to do."

Instead, he lied. Under oath. The Chief Law Enforcement officer of the United States lied under oath.

NeverTrumpers surely echoed this "It's not the sex, it's the perjury" sentiment.

But now #MuhPrinciples demand a reversal.

I don’t really care about the Stormy Daniels thing. I believe it all happened & don’t condone it, but it’s basically on-brand Trump sleaze. This is who we elected. Polling on this drama shows most people don’t care either & POTUS’ job approval #’s are up...
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) May 3, 2018

A rare disagreement w/the very sharp @guybenson. It matters. POTUS and his team lied. And lied again. And again. And again - all about a matter in which their first goal was to deceive. We should care about aggressive dishonesty.https://t.co/sLwbJ6rw4o
— Stephen Hayes (@stephenfhayes) May 3, 2018

As for the lying (not under oath): I have to say I really don't care much about a guy lying about something which quite frankly isn't any of my business and which most people like about. Even if you ask a guy about a woman he might have slept with in a non-adulterous way (i.e., they were single, it was just a casual hook-up), he will probably publicly lie about it because well, you're kind supposed to keep your sexual history secret, and you're supposed to keep other people's sexual histories secret, too.

And really -- you're not supposed to even ask. So if you get lied to about a question you weren't supposed to ask, well, that's on you, Busybody.

Clinton's first lies about Lewinsky weren't public lies -- they were official lies, perjuries in fact, made under oath. He made public not-under-oath-lies after that but only to protect his lies under oath.

But Eternal Principles and all.

Ben Howe makes a somewhat different point: he says he at least wants to see people "condemning" this, rather than "applauding" it. (He claims that people "demand" that he "applaud" Trump when he does something praiseworthy, and says he wants that reciprocated by people "condemning" Trump when he does something bad.)

Well, no one's applauding his infidelity, Ben. Literally no one, except maybe a wag who posts Pepe Memes and is goofing about praising Trump for his Dragon Energy.

As for condemning it -- yeah, infidelity and lying about it are bad.

So there: Considered this condemned.

I'm not sure what that matters. I'm also not sure how we were all elected to the position of Morality Police and Sexuality Scolds. I personally don't really envision myself in that role, and I don't rush to it gladly.

But if I'm being asked "Is this good?" then the answer is: No, this is not good. In fact, it's bad.

But that's not really want Ben Howe wants, or what David French wants, or what Steven Hayes wants.

What they want is for people to say "Oh, we were wrong for voting for Trump to keep Hillary Clinton from the presidency; we should have done what you guys did and supported her, either openly (and somewhat honorably) like Ben Howe did, or covertly (and thus less honorably) like French and Hayes did."

And on that: Sorry, guys. I'm afraid that you guys, like Hillary Clinton, must one day give up your bitterness and blame-shifting over Hillary Clinton's loss.

Trump is a very flawed man, and of course was a flawed candidate, and is a flawed president. While there are some who genuinely dispute this -- wrongly, I'd say -- most people's eyes are open to his flaws, and have always been open to his flaws.

We don't claim he doesn't have flaws.

However, we will hold to our November 2016 position that Trump, even with his flaws, was a better choice of president than the corrupt totalitarian serial-lawbreaking serial-perjuring grifter Hillary Clinton.

You lot disagree with that. You supported Hillary Clinton, whether passive aggressively and dishonestly (French, Hayes) or aggressive-aggressively and virtue-signalling (Howe).

I'm sorry your gal lost, but the election is now fucking seventeen months in the past.

It's time to come out of the woods and put aside the Chardonnay, fellas.

No one believes you're arguing about "principles" here. It's obvious to everyone that you're not arguing about Eternal Principles or American Values; you're arguing about a much smaller and shabbier thing: You're whining that You were right, and damnit, other people should admit we were right!

With a big side of: We've got to protect our phony-baloney jobs!

You were not right. You were right as to many of your assumptions (that Trump is a dishonest guy with barely any knowledge about policy or conservative principles) -- but then, few even argued with you about those.

You are, and were, completely wrong in your conclusion -- that this therefore made the most corrupt presidential candidate in ages and a determined Identity Politics Cultural Warrior a better choice.

Hell, some of you (French, Hayes) are so ashamed of that conclusion you can't even speak it honestly. You have to pretend you were fighting for some imaginary Third Way, instead of admitting you preferred Hillary Clinton.

At some point, you will have to make peace with the thinking that rational people made peace with ages ago, that an election is not an up or down (binary choice!!!) referendum on the moral and characterological qualities of one man, but a comparison on the moral and characterological qualities of two candidates, one of which would be president, as well as -- as if this matters (apparently it doesn't matter so much); the NeverTrumpers are all-in on character questions and treat policy questions as if they were silly distractions -- the policy choices each candidate would make, the legislation each would support, the policy of either enforcement or nonenforcement of immigration laws each would champion, and the judges each would nominate.

You continue treating this as a game where you win if you can merely prove Trump was flawed.

Wrong. We almost all agree that Trump is, was, and will always be deeply flawed.

The actual question, which you continue to avoid in your passive-aggressive childlike evasions, is whether or not, given Trump's flaws as well as your favored candidate Hillary's flaws, Hillary was preferable.

And, as I say: You're so dishonest you can't even admit that what you actually were/are arguing for.

(Ben Howe partly excepted from this, though he doesn't bring up the Hillary-Trump comparative analysis up very often, if at all.)

I get that you guys are Morally Outraged and Deeply Offended.

Let me explain this to you as I would explain it to a Social Justice Warrior (a breed you endlessly-emotional moral scolds increasingly resemble): I don't care if you're Morally Outraged and Deeply Offended.

I don't have time to coddle your infinite sensitivities and smooth over your endlessly ruffled feathers.

Life is hard. Some choices are harder than others. Serious men make hard choices; honest men admit what choices they actually made, instead of serially lying about it.

Deal with it.

And until Hayes, Kristol, Goldberg, and French stop lying and admit that they supported Hillary Clinton for president over Trump, they cannot criticize Trump for lying.

Your only job, your only purpose, is to inform the public about your actual beliefs and preferences.

You had one job: to tell your readers honestly who they should support for president, and who you supported.

You lied in that regard.

You continue lying.

In all likelihood, you will go to your graves lying.

But yeah, let me get all worked up about a notorious sexual braggart now on his third wife banging a porn star.

More: A friend writes (paraphrased), "Something no one talks about is that the NTs actually favored Hillary from a policy perspective as well. Internationalist interventionism, 'free trade', corporate cronyism. That was their candidate."

I'd add in: They actually are largely open borders as well. Free trade absolutists are very sympathetic to, if not outright supportive of, the idea that just as goods should be free to cross borders unimpeded, so too should labor.

This is the position of the Wall Street Journal, which used to declare, every 4th of July, something like, "The immigration policy of the United States shall consist of five words: 'There shall be open borders.'"

They stopped declaring that forthrightly that after 9/11 (whoopsie!), but you can hear this echoing in their rhetoric.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:39 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 03, 2018 04:31 PM (p6e8W)

2 Heh...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 03, 2018 04:32 PM (p6e8W)

3 Ok, that's enough fun. Corgi's...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 03, 2018 04:32 PM (p6e8W)

4 I'll point out that the Swamp didn't even convict Clinton of the perjury.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 04:33 PM (Ifb4G)

5 But I like Charlie Gibson still.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at May 03, 2018 04:33 PM (ijopM)

6 I understand completely.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 03, 2018 04:33 PM (prxEu)

7 Woot! Woot! Now to read the content.

Posted by: SteveOReno at May 03, 2018 04:33 PM (2sCft)

8 Stephen Hayes lies about fucking dogs.
All. The. Time.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:34 PM (pe3zc)

9 Is anyone telling the truth about anything anymore? That's how I feel. Lies all over the place.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at May 03, 2018 04:34 PM (ijopM)

10 Ben Shapiro and Gabe Malor and other #nevertrump are all in on the inkind contribution thing.

I have two words. Not those two. John Edwards.

Don't they know the outcome of his trial?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2018 04:34 PM (Yl3Ht)

11 Puritans!

Now to read teh content....

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 03, 2018 04:34 PM (8iiMU)

12 We have gone a long way from Russia, Russia, Russia to get to here. Wherever here is.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet sponsors the musical - Life and Times of Sonobi at May 03, 2018 04:34 PM (0QYMt)

13 "We should care about aggressive dishonesty"

Like with a cloth?

Posted by: Hoodoo Gurus at May 03, 2018 04:34 PM (W+vEI)

14 Clinton also threatened witnesses and subordinates re. his lying.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:35 PM (pe3zc)

15 Stephen Hayes lies about fucking dogs.
All. The. Time.

Posted by: garrett
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What?
Steve Hayes fucks dogs?

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 04:35 PM (QvdcM)

16 not for nothing, but wasn't stormy extorting the guy?

Posted by: Kuhyt at May 03, 2018 04:35 PM (Kuhyt)

17 I wasn't voting for National Saint, I was voting against Hillary. Then I realized that I had accidentally voted FOR the most conservative president in recent memory. The upshot is that I don't care what he schlonged, resent the condescension of those who want me to care, and want more Trump to spite them.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 03, 2018 04:35 PM (RD7QR)

18 And now we shall see the fruits of the nonstop 24/7 MSM/Nevertrumper hate campaign against Trump since election day, 2016.

Posted by: filbert at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (953wK)

19 I condemn it. Where's my lousy T-shirt?

Y'all heard about this Kanye guy?

Posted by: eleven at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (+lOpA)

20 I don't claim to be flawless.

My penis, on the other hand...

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (pe3zc)

21

Hayes.
He's grown so small.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (fceHP)

22 Stormy has gotten 100x s more coverage, then Netanyahu did when he produced evidence that Iran continues their Nuc program.... and we were chumps in the Nuc Treaty.

Posted by: Don Q. at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (NgKpN)

23 Would anyone hire a clean freak to remediate a septic tank?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (LNPd9)

24 Is Trump deeply flawed? I'm not inclined to believe so. He is definitely a male.

Posted by: Cheri at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (oiNtH)

25 That they're doing all this lecturing in the midst of the Hollywood/MSM implosion over very pervey, sometimes rapey, powerful men - who got away with it for DECADES - is just too much.

Was it consensual?
Yeah, shut up with your morality pose.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (W+vEI)

26 >>What?
Steve Hayes fucks dogs?

I read it online!

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (pe3zc)

27 This Stephen Hayes dog-fucking situation has me angry.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (4e+hS)

28 We should care about aggressive dishonesty.https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/992063392084058114
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Because we would NEVER EVER get that from Hillary.

Thank you, all the same. I'll just enjoy by Gorsuch, 3% economic growth, rescinding the Johnson order for a greater freedom of conscience... and potentially de-nuked Kim-family-nutcase.

Posted by: Guys who took care of Vince Foster at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (vDqXW)

29 So.. bottom line.. did Ace like the movie???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (4+IgA)

30 What?

Steve Hayes fucks dogs?

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 04:35 PM

All of those dogs are liars.

Posted by: Steve Hayes at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (prxEu)

31 Even if you ask a guy about a woman he might have slept with in a non-adulterous way (i.e., they were single, it was just a casual hook-up), he will probably publicly lie about it because well, you're kind supposed to keep your sexual history secret, and you're supposed to keep other people's sexual histories secret, too.

I can say no, or I can say, "Your mother, Trebek!"

Which one you wanna hear?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (2ifxQ)

32 The only part of DJT's sex life I care about is the tweets to the presses nutsacks.

Posted by: DaveA at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (FhXTo)

33 WTF is worth saving in this country anymore?

Posted by: Editor at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (3A6kT)

34 Trump!, so far, hasn't gotten his knob polished in the Oval Office. That's the difference for me.

Posted by: Bruce at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (8ikIW)

35 16 not for nothing, but wasn't stormy extorting the guy?
Posted by: Kuhyt at May 03, 2018 04:35 PM (Kuhyt)

Huh? Oh yeaaahhhhhh....

Posted by: eleven at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (+lOpA)

36 So, it seems what these guys are saying is, I should be so ashamed to find that the Donald Trump may or may not have had a consensual sexual relationship with a porn star ten years ago, that I should be wishing I voted for Egg McMuffin, or God Forbid, Felonia von Pantsuit.

Yea, no.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (p6e8W)

37 Boom! Margins blown by 28 comments in!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 04:38 PM (2ifxQ)

38 Stormy is the Rosa Parks of Porn Stars who need their 15 minutes of fame.

Posted by: TJ at May 03, 2018 04:38 PM (YzMAB)

39 When I want the truth, I talk to myself. And that guy is looking a little shifty lately.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 03, 2018 04:38 PM (RuIsu)

40 After 8 years of Obama's "aggressive dishonesty" I'm finding it a bit difficult to get worked up about Trump lying about paying off a porn star for an act that happened 10 years ago.

Guys like Hayes will never understand that some of us knuckle draggers got tired of being lied to by everyone in DC for years and we want someone who will do whatever it takes to shake the place up and clean up the scumbags who lie not about personal failing but so about things that affect our lives.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 04:38 PM (/tuJf)

41 29 So.. bottom line.. did Ace like the movie???
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 03, 2018 04:37 PM (4+IgA)

Bottom line: Stephen Hayes screws Fido. I read it on the Web so it must be true.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 03, 2018 04:38 PM (RD7QR)

42 Stephen Hayes is Just Jealous because PDT didn't Shtupp him or grab his Mish

Posted by: JoshBarroquette at May 03, 2018 04:38 PM (y3aQB)

43 #MuhPrinciples dictate I'm first...

Posted by: Todler at May 03, 2018 04:38 PM (8D42x)

44 This Stephen Hayes dog-fucking situation has me angry.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (4e+hS)

Finally, some good luck!

Posted by: The Chicken at May 03, 2018 04:39 PM (953wK)

45 and you know what, maybe we're being too...binary...by arguing the binany choice between HRC and trump.

WE FUCKING CHOSE TRUMP FROM AMONG 17 GOP CANDIDATES.

We being you guys. I voted Cruz. I thought Trump was able to destroy Jeb! and move Cruz to the right. yay.

However, I supported trump ultimately because he had the unique policy position of not being a cuck.

So, these guys aren't bitching about a choice 17 months ago...they're bitching about the nomination choice made 20 months ago.

Posted by: Kuhyt at May 03, 2018 04:39 PM (Kuhyt)

46 Hes our Grant.

Fuck all this noise.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 03, 2018 04:39 PM (OaBwR)

47 "Ben Howe makes a somewhat different point: he says he at least wants to
see people "condemning" this, rather than "applauding" it."

Alright. Bad Trump! Bad Trump! No borscht for you!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet sponsors the musical - Life and Times of Sonobi at May 03, 2018 04:39 PM (0QYMt)

48 Hillary Clinton: still not the President.

Ah, that was nice. Kind of like saying "ommmmm" in the lotus position, but much easier.

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 04:39 PM (gh7cp)

49 >>Stormy is the Rosa Parks of Porn Stars who need their 15 minutes of fame.

Back of the Bus Girls 13

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:39 PM (pe3zc)

50 Lay off Stephen Hayes. These things happen.

Posted by: Dana Perino at May 03, 2018 04:39 PM (fiGNd)

51 Okay, for the last for all the brain dead people out there:

STOP ASKING PRESIDENT TO DISCLOSE FACTS ABOUT A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT!

Once he discloses facts about a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, it ceases being a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT!

And to the retard who calls himself the "attorney" for Stormy Daniels, you keep accusing Trump of a coverup -- about a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, which your client signed and by its very definition IS AN INTENTIONAL COVERUP!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 03, 2018 04:40 PM (ATVNj)

52 Given the timing, Stormy Daniels was meant to be an October surprise, right?

She started negotiating with Cohen weeks before the election.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2018 04:40 PM (W+vEI)

53 There was a time I would have given a crap about spousal infidelity, but the libs ruined that with Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 03, 2018 04:40 PM (6n332)

54 The thing Bill Clinton was hounddogged for happened while he was in office--in fact while he was IN the office. That's not the same thing as a consensual affair that occurred in the past, if that's what actually happened with Miss Daniels. However, I will fess up to some considerable hypocrisy. I am willing to put up with The Donald's infidelities because he's a fighter, which is something I want to see, and because the alternative is unthinkable. And the Dems who supported Clinton through that bizarre period of history had similar reasons.

Posted by: Caliban at May 03, 2018 04:40 PM (QE8X6)

55 Trump is not who we are!

Posted by: Kevin Williamson in a Burqa at May 03, 2018 04:40 PM (yhf6w)

56 Not shitting my pants over here, Boss !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 04:40 PM (fiGNd)

57 50
Lay off Stephen Hayes. These things happen.

Posted by: Dana Perino

The comments went to shit quick.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2018 04:40 PM (4e+hS)

58 Life is hard.

Guess what else is hard, ladies.

Posted by: Charlie Rose, cocksman at May 03, 2018 04:41 PM (+INtM)

59 I'll admit this much, I regret investing so heavily into the "character matters!" Clinton wars. I've come to the conclusion character just really doesn't matter in politics unless it interferes with your ability to win.

And I also think it was incredibly stupid "we" impeached Bill Clinton over what he said in a civil suit regarding sexual harassment. I certainly know if Trump lied under oath about Stormy Daniels, I don't think it would warrant removal from office.

So I'm willing to admit to the charge that I'm a hypocrite for holding Trump to a different standard. So sue me.
If Democrats had gone along with removal of Bill Clinton, I might have an ounce of shame over the flip flop.

Posted by: Maritime at May 03, 2018 04:41 PM (lKmt3)

60 Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Posted by: Bueller? Bueller? at May 03, 2018 04:41 PM (gbWkA)

61 So also, the order of impeaching trump now goes in descending order as each previous option evaporates.

1. he colluded
2. his staff colluded
3. he or his staff did something in the past
4. maybe his staff did a process crime
5. can we maybe subpoena trump to get him to fuck up an answer and step into a perjury trap that congress will surely impeach him over?
6. ok well he denied paying stormy through cohen? that's a lie...and you jesus lovers hate lies, right?

Posted by: Kuhyt at May 03, 2018 04:41 PM (Kuhyt)

62 I'll make a deal:

I'll condemn Trump's (alleged) dalliances when Hillary gets indicted for the e-mail server national security crimes.

Not before.

Posted by: filbert at May 03, 2018 04:41 PM (953wK)

63 Stormy Daniels is a graduate of Russia's sparrow school. Trump was literally in bed with the Russians.
Also, Trump....Donald Trump, Double 0 scoops.

Posted by: Harvey Ficusfocker at May 03, 2018 04:41 PM (YEDec)

64 I voted for someone as president. Not Pope.

Besides, Crackhead Whore signed an NDA. We shouldn't even know about this. Of course, the NeverTrumpers would go bananas if someone came out of the wood work (or after having gotten some wood) and sued one of them.

They pansies. They are bitter because the next 8 years were to be of them telling the rest of us how to cope with a Hillary presidency. Meaning that "we need to give it a good fight and need your donation. But dammit, we lost."

Screw them and the St. Bernard they rode in on.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (bB4HN)

65 also...now do pedo island.

Posted by: Kuhyt at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (Kuhyt)

66 http://bit.ly/2JT46W9
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rony Overload: James Comey's Book Ripped Giuliani for Hogging Spotlight, Political Ambitions | Breitbart
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Psychological Projection much

Posted by: JoshBarroquette at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (y3aQB)

67 What happened to "everybody lies about sex"? I can't recall the number of times I heard that from Clinton apologists during the Clinton/Monica scandal.

Or "they were consenting adults." Yes, except one was in a position of authority over the other, and the other was also barely out of her teens, and both of those are supposed to be no-no's for a middle-aged, married w/kid president.

Bill Clinton was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office from a subordinate while president. Trump banged a professional whore years before he became president. But Trump is the one who should be impeached over sex? GMAFB

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (fqUgw)

68 That Guy Benson thread does nothing but convince me yet again that you've got to be mentally ill to be on Twitter.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (Ifb4G)

69 Thanks for writing this Ace. It's important to us conservatives to know who's being honest and who's trying to trick us.

Posted by: Draki at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (Y0byY)

70 Condemning ~/~ praising.

I can praise you for one thing you do. "Praising Joe" is not on the same level as "Condemning Joe".

"Rebuking Joe" is a little more the same. I rebuke Trump, for what it's worth.

But I rolled the dice on election day for a SCOTUS seat. And I got a SCOTUS seat.

Posted by: Guys who took care of Vince Foster at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (vDqXW)

71 Not as if I'm seeing anyone saying we should all be trying to emulate Trump either.

Though, marrying models, and banging porn stars and playboy bunnies... I can think of worse fates.

Posted by: buzzion at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (lKs2v)

72 Also...can we stop with this: "Trump is a very flawed man, and of course was a flawed candidate, and is a flawed president. While there are some who genuinely dispute this -- wrongly, I'd say -- most people's eyes are open to his flaws, and have always been open to his flaws."

how about this:

trump is doing a good job and trying his hardest to maintain the dignity of the nation while dealing with his unique personality quirks.

Posted by: Kuhyt at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (Kuhyt)

73 I am upset that Trump lied, but Ms. Daniels was no doubt paid for her services at the time of the sexual encounter.

I hope he sues the hell out of her for breach of contract. She was paid later (don't know when) to keep her mouth shut.

The fact that this happened ten years ago has me shrugging my shoulders. He was a private citizen at the time, so it's none of my business.

What really upsets me is the Feds tapping Cohen's phones and offices. If they were going on the assumption that this Michael Cohen was the one who travelled to Prague (as part of the Russian [non]collusion matter), then I would assume that everything that followed that flawed reasoning would be inadmissable.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (uDcBt)

74 It was either Trump's! dalliances, or Hillaries many tounge lashings from Huma. Those were the only choices

Posted by: Bruce at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (8ikIW)

75 Another loud bang in the continuous drumbeat of how bad Trump really is, brought to you by the Democrat Press Machine. Owned by Soros (TM)

The press and the Dems (but I repeat myself) go on and on with their foul screeching about the man they could not defeat by previously proven means (Romney, and on the state level, Ted Stevens) so they just continue to whore out what little reputation they had left.

What I find fascinating is the popularity of Donald Trump is as high as ever! It shows me that the liars in the press and their human tools like Eric Swallowwell and Adam Schiftt are failing to connect with those who watch the news less than most of the Horde.

The press senses this and has turned it to overdrive, with their new star, the Whore's Attorney becoming the newest star. The Whore's Attorney redefines sleaze.

Yet no actual crimes can be identified, much less proven.

How long will the DemoPress and their human tools in Congress be able to keep this sham going?

Watching Rudi on FandF earlier, I wondered if he would have stepped up and been AG instead of Snoozer McSezzzzzzzzions.

What could have been.................

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (UsCnO)

76 And another thing. David French is icky.

Posted by: Caliban at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (QE8X6)

77 Wrong. We almost all agree that Trump is, was, and will always be deeply flawed.
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And yet is still a better man than any of the nevertrumpers

Posted by: Methos at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (XQvuQ)

78 Thanks for writing this Ace. It's important to us conservatives to know who's being honest and who's trying to trick us.

Posted by: Draki at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (Y0byY)

That's not fair. I've always been candid about just how much Jasper means to me.

Posted by: Dana Perino at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (fiGNd)

79 "Life is hard. Some choices are harder than others. Serious men make hard choices; honest men admit what choices they actually made, instead of serially lying about it."

This should not be foreign to them. This seems to be the standard by which they expect Trump to live.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (Dp6qK)

80 Stormy has gotten 100x s more coverage, then Netanyahu did when he produced evidence that Iran continues their Nuc program.... and we were chumps in the Nuc Treaty.

Posted by: Don Q.
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What Israel did was Yugeeee, Ginormous, and the media virtually buried it.

The feat of acquiring all that right there in center of enemy hell, then putting it together and What? Like load it on a truck and drive it out!!!

Then part two the volume of knowledge and the verification, LEGAL PROOF, that they not only want to kill us but are spending all their treasure to actively achieve that goal.

And they bury it with a story about a cheap whore.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (QvdcM)

81 Well, nobody ever, in the history of man, has held high office and done things he isn't particularly proud of, or things that violate one or more of the commandment. Not. Ever.

Uh....

So, now we must condemn all of the presidents with a D near their name, because to my knowledge each and every one of them was a philanderer (with the possible exception of Truman or Carter, and they weren't all that bright to begin with). Right?

We have absolutely forgotten in this country and as a people that only those who have never sinned are allowed to cast stones. Mind your own soul, and see that it is in conformity with your God and His Holy Will. Until then, you can't see past the 2x4 in yer own eye, so quit ogling.

Do I care about other people's sex lives? Only inasmuch as these people may or may not make good role models for my kid. Otherwise, screw donkeys on the front porch for all I care. As a Catholic, I must pray for you and hope that you make it to heaven, and I am also reminded to exercise the Corporal and Spiritual Works of Mercy, meaning that I'm supposed to remind you that screwing donkeys on the front porch is probably not going to end you up on heaven, but beyond that, I would become just another puritan scold, battling eyeball 2x4's.

These "journalists" who have issues with Trump's sex life are looking through solid 2x4 glasses. Period.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (7UW64)

82 My vote was entirely "fuck you, you clowns".

And the clowns keep proving me right.

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (gh7cp)

83 55 Trump is not who we are!
Posted by: Kevin Williamson in a Burqa at May 03, 2018 04:40 PM (yhf6w)

Yeah.... because who in their right mind would want to be a Billionaire, married to a Supermodel, who is also doing hot women....

Oh, and is President of the US...

Crap.... where do I sign up???

Posted by: Don Q. at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (NgKpN)

84 Iirc Dan rather and Peter Jennings were among those who said gentlemen lie about sex.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (LiyEm)

85
If it wasn't this it would be something else to the lunatics and NeverTrumpers.

Trump's character was a known quantity on Election Day.

Only Leftists vote for a National Daddy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2018 04:44 PM (dIH3U)

86 Excellent Post Ace. You clarified things wonderfully.

You focused in on the true issue.

Well done.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at May 03, 2018 04:44 PM (ijopM)

87 There is a massive difference between Billy Boy and Trump in regards to their affairs..

Trump's was 10 years before he became president. Who the fuck cares???

Bubba's was in the backroom of the oval office.. with a friggin' intern!!!

I do wish, however, that Trump would have the self-control to simply ignore these subjects or to dismiss them when asked about it.. It is way too easy for the press to get under his skin and make him start talking about crap he should simply dismiss as none of your business or irrelevant to his presidency.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 03, 2018 04:44 PM (4+IgA)

88 I just refuse to give the NeverTrumpers a single goddam inch. They've never supported the president, so why should anyone believe they are anything more than concern trolls?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 04:44 PM (LISuA)

89 That's not fair. I've always been candid about just how much Jasper means to me.

Posted by: Dana Perino at May 03, 2018 04:43 PM (fiGNd)

Bitch, you told me it was because you thought I liked peanut butter.

This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Posted by: Jasper at May 03, 2018 04:44 PM (Dp6qK)

90 I voted for Trump to be President, not a member of the clergy.

Posted by: Archer at May 03, 2018 04:44 PM (gbWkA)

91 27
This Stephen Hayes dog-fucking situation has me angry.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2018 04:36 PM (4e+hS)

I think we need to call in a clinical puppyologist.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 03, 2018 04:44 PM (8iiMU)

92 >> Excellent Post Ace. You clarified things wonderfully.

>You focused in on the true issue.

>Well done.

Apple Polisher.

Why don't you just award him THREADWINNING status and get it over with?

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (pe3zc)

93 Well at least he had the decency to pay for dinner.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (koNhm)

94 What happened to "everybody lies about sex"? I can't recall the number of times I heard that from Clinton apologists during the Clinton/Monica scandal.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 03, 2018 04:42 PM (fqUgw)
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They sure are awful sore about one of their victories, where a president didn't get removed because "perjury about sex" was not enough to remove him.

Posted by: Guys who took care of Vince Foster at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (vDqXW)

95 He's a good man, President Trump is.

I know it.

You know it.

I think maybe he made sexy with some people a long time ago, but this was before he decided to do politics.

I doubt he made sexy with "stormy daniels" though cause she's obviously skanky and stupid and she has cartoon tits with underboob funguses.

She's made this all up I think.

Lying skank.

Posted by: happyfeet at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (mLfQi)

96 I find Irish Setters to be the sexiest of dogs.

*wink*

Posted by: Charlie Rose at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (4e+hS)

97 Who likes their peanut-butter ?!?! That's right .... YOU like your peanut-butter !!! Who's a good dog ?!?!

Posted by: Dana Perino at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (fiGNd)

98 The worst thing is Trump actually touched a hot woman.

Oh Garson, please bring me 57 Rothchild penis. Gracias.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (pw+jk)

99 Up Next on The Panel,
Super Conservatives Steve Hayes
And Bill Kristol with their picks for 2020

Posted by: Faux News Brett Bear at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (BixXU)

100 It's been 10 years ...

and you can still hear the echo of Stormy Danial's Vagina.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (pe3zc)

101 ace, I see no reason to stipulate that Trump is lying over this thing. The underlying thing, I mean. But I haven't followed it closely. My impression is it's a he said/she said, with all the signs of a typical shakedown of a wealthy target.

But I'm really baffled by the statement that Trump had no knowledge of policy. He was mostly elected because he committed himself to specific policies, all of which represented a big change. And so far he has actually worked to fulfill his campaign pledges more than any president in living memory (save one, but that's too annoying to go back over).

Stifling over-regulation. Taxes. Mass, disastrous lawlessness on immigration/border security. Opioid crisis. Human trafficking. Trade deals. Feckless foreign policy of the Obama idiots.

On each one, Trump ran on very specific approaches, all of which he has implemented, or tried to implement.

Some of these people don't care, or don't understand these policy shifts, but they're the lightweights, not Trump.

Only "flaws" - of consequence - I can see so far is not firing Sessions when it was clear he was damaged goods (self-damaged, and even then not really, but whatever), and not realizing much earlier (have he and his legislative people *yet* realized?) that he had to run against the GOP, gut and change the GOP, quickly, if he is to have much real impact.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (QDnY+)

102 Our honor and character as a nation should follow the principles that Barack Obama set forth with his steadfast leadership.

Posted by: Deadly Dick Durbin at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (yhf6w)

103 Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 04:38 PM (/tuJf)

I was also tired of waiting for the muh principles group to actually accomplish something conservative.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet sponsors the musical - Life and Times of Sonobi at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (0QYMt)

104
If Democrats had gone along with removal of Bill Clinton, I might have an ounce of shame over the flip flop.

The Dems wrote the rules, then rewrote them when they needed to.

All I'm doing is not allowing their double-standards to allow them to defeat us depending on how they want to apply them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (Ifb4G)

105 So did Ace like the movie?

Posted by: Penfold at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (Fbt5B)

106 If given the choice between a sanctimonious sellout and a sinner who at least works at doing the right thing for America, well, guess.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (icpJx)

107 I have a friend in DC...

Posted by: Stephen Hayes' Dog at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (AzW6q)

108 .. you're kind supposed to keep your sexual history secret, and you're supposed to keep other people's sexual histories secret, too.

Right. That's the way I' see this too, *if* it's true. Trump's a horndog but he's not unchivalrous, in his manner.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (3dsTO)

109 EVen taking away all the FISA business, Russia collusion stuff --- Trump banging a pornstar 12 years ago is so outrageous why?

As Adirondack Patriot notes, he's been under an NDA, which would explain evasions. And frankly, this is the type of thing that might be good to know *before* voting, but 1 1/2 years after, when he's going on all cylinders, in the middle of negotiating peace in Korea, etc. --- I'm just not feeling the importance of it.

It MAY have mattered once, but right now?
I don't care.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (W+vEI)

110 ("simply reprehensible," as Democrats looking for a half-in-half-out position would bleat)

Better known as "Just the tip."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 04:47 PM (ptqGC)

111 Bill Clinton was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office from a subordinate while president. Trump banged a professional whore years before he became president. But Trump is the one who should be impeached over sex? GMAFB

Posted by: TrivialPursuer
--------------------------------

Could it be that Trump getting more pussy than Clinton while at the same time having no verified lamps thrown at him and actually maintaining convivial relationships with his past wives have the Dims testicles in a twist?

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 04:47 PM (QvdcM)

112 I have a friend in DC...

Posted by: Stephen Hayes' Dog at May 03, 2018 04:46 PM (AzW6q)

You bet you do !!!

Posted by: Dana Perino at May 03, 2018 04:47 PM (fiGNd)

113 Yup, Trump; er President Trump is no saint. I did not vote for a saint. I probably never will. I voted for the better candidate. By rites Hillary should be in jail. Donny two scoops did not have a very high hurdle to jump. Bonus that he is the most conservative president since Reagan maybe even since Coolidge.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 03, 2018 04:47 PM (0OmEj)

114 FWIW, he also banged penthouse pets who told Daily Mail about it. So...what's the point. Another chick? Another zzz.

Posted by: Kuhyt at May 03, 2018 04:48 PM (Kuhyt)

115
More than anything, for me the reason for voting for Trump was he was working - tirelessly, it seemed - to win the office despite serious headwinds, while Shrillary believed and acted as it she was entitled to it.

Her "side o' beef" moment on 9/12/16 clinched her position with me as "never, while I draw breath."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2018 04:48 PM (pNxlR)

116 I think Trumps relationship with the stripper porn star is reprehensible, and I think his general treatment of other people is probably scumbaggy. I just do not care, because America barfed up Hillary Clinton and Bernie The Red to run against him. Election over, and thankfully the least worst of the candidates won. And he's been doing an amazing job, by and large.

So all these concern trolls can go screw themselves.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 04:48 PM (LISuA)

117 You know who else Trump banged and then paid to shut up and go away?

All of his ex wives.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:48 PM (pe3zc)

118 David French has no problem protecting some radical leftist professor from losing her job, for saying something very stupid and offensive, without apology or penance (naturally because of principles) but, on the other hand we all must confess our sins in voting for a guy that flawed as he was, was a better choice than Hillary.

I really am tired of these assholes thinking they are owed an explanation, because they are the self appointed high priests of conservatism.

Posted by: TJ at May 03, 2018 04:48 PM (YzMAB)

119

But that's not really want Ben Howe wants, or what David French wants, or what Steven Hayes wants.

probably more skeletons in their closets than the movie Skeletons

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 04:48 PM (fceHP)

120
Getting slapped around by MH has really taken it's toll on Steve.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 03, 2018 04:48 PM (10vO4)

121 Bubba's was in the backroom of the oval office.. with a friggin' intern!!!

Probably with his wife and daughter in the house, too. But I'm he never did that back in the governors mansion...

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (gh7cp)

122 Wow, what's up Cavuto's ass?

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (Z1I24)

123 I don't care who Trump did or did not go to bed with. I just want Sessions to get off his ass and indict some of the FBI/DOJ criminals and put this shit on the front pages at last. WTF is he waiting for? Mueller's 70 blank indictments to bear fruit? Steiner?

This stalled IG report is infuriating and not for one second do I believe the sloooooowness is deliberate. Not even McCabe has been indicted yet.

Posted by: CN at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (5gaNQ)

124 Have yet to meet an unflawed person. Probably never will since Mother Theresa is dead. Or Pope John Paul II. And you know what, I'm sure the two of them would have admitted to flaws. I voted for someone to get a job done as President. He's doing that. Let he and Melania work out his possible horndog issues. I'm not married to him. Don't care.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (N3JsI)

125 We finally have a president banging porn stars and people are upset?
#sad

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (4e+hS)

126 >>But that's not really want Ben Howe wants, or what David French wants, or what Steven Hayes wants.

I think we all know what Stephen Hayes wants.

Posted by: Lassie at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (pe3zc)

127 I just finished up a yuge funeral reception.

As luck would have it, one of the friends of the deceased is a rapid feminist Dem who worked as an ambassador somewhere for Billy Jeff Clinton.

She is heading up the Resistance Movement here. I so badly wanted to slip something into her tea.

And she's quite the sourpuss, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (ptqGC)

128 Posted by: happyfeet at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (mLfQi)

For what it's worth, those closest to PDT swear he's been a changed man since settling down with Melania (and advancing age probably plays a factor, I would think.)

*IF* the Stormy Daniels fling happened, and I'm not saying it did, it well could have been the final fling before the birth of Barron led him to change his ways.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (3dsTO)

129 92 >> Excellent Post Ace. You clarified things wonderfully.

>You focused in on the true issue.

>Well done.

Apple Polisher.

Why don't you just award him THREADWINNING status and get it over with?
Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (pe3zc)

lol
Well, this is the first time I've ever praised an Ace post. I've been pretty ticked off with some of his stuff lately, enough to re-consider if I belonged here.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (ijopM)

130 Trump, Consensual sex.

Clinton, rape and intimidation of a young humidor.

Big difference and FUCK THE NEVER TRUMPERS with a pineapple, barbed wire, sideways with some Tapatio.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (pw+jk)

131 These guys can't be arguing that Hillary Clinton has better morals than Donald Trump because that would be stupid. I mean really, purposefully stupid.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (U+nHb)

132 ***49 >>Stormy is the Rosa Parks of Porn Stars who need their 15 minutes of fame.

Back of the Bus Girls 13
Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:39 PM (pe3zc)***

Dammit, garrett! You owe me a new monitor!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (uDcBt)

133 Trump may be a "flawed man", (unlike all his statist enemies of course), but in 2006 he was still a Democrat doing things Democrats do.
Maybe, just maybe, he has subsequently seen the light and has tried to better himself, and is now trying to focus on correcting the damage the commies have done to us over the past eight years (plus). I see no contrary evidence to this so until otherwise he gets a full pass from me.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (7A6l6)

134
Wow, what's up Cavuto's ass?

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (Z1I24)

Jeb!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (ptqGC)

135 I adore you, Ace. Fur and all.

Posted by: biblio at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (6FY0P)

136 As luck would have it, one of the friends of the deceased is a rapid feminist Dem who worked as an ambassador somewhere for Billy Jeff Clinton.

She is heading up the Resistance Movement here. I so badly wanted to slip something into her tea.

And she's quite the sourpuss, too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (ptqGC)

AoSHQ obligatory: She sounds nice.

Posted by: filbert at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (953wK)

137 If Stormy Daniels were not a "porn star", I wonder how much play this story really would have gotten?

I mean how much are we talking about Marla Maples?

But my pet theory is the media's goal here is to get Melania to leave Trump before the campaign. Imagine trying to run for reelection in the middle of a nasty divorce and child custody.

Posted by: Maritime at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (lKmt3)

138 >>And she's quite the sourpuss, too.

*falls over in shock*

*not really*

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (mtfdF)

139 And she's quite the sourpuss, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (ptqGC)

Did you suggest vinegar and water ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (fiGNd)

140 Cavuto hates Trump.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (LiyEm)

141 A more fitting moniker for that slug.

Posted by: Dinky Dick Durbin at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (yhf6w)

142
Damn. Teh Ewok hated this movie too.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 03, 2018 04:50 PM (XWkhW)

143 17 I wasn't voting for National Saint, I was voting against Hillary.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 03, 2018 04:35 PM (RD7QR)

I wasn't voting for National Saint either, but I supported Trump because I thought he was the only one who could have defeated the Democrat/Media Complex. I also found myself liking him more and more as the campaign went on.

Posted by: rickl at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (xjiRE)

144 22 years of smut society. Pornifying kids. Slutty pop stars. Sex is awesome, man, stop being a square and NOW I'm supposed to give a shit? FYNQ.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (xQfPr)

145 I try to follow this stuff as best I can but don't remember President Trump in a court room or under deposition denying a trist with Stormy, do you?

Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (aC6Sd)

146 I couldn't get through all the virtue.

Posted by: nip at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (ECLaL)

147 This is big whereas selling out our country to give Iran a nuclear bomb and a few billions in cash is ho hum.

Nice work penis sippers.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (pw+jk)

148 FenlonSpoke this morning said it best for me.
"Trump is not my man, he's my president"
Done

Posted by: Winston at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (wgCUV)

149 But yeah, let me get all worked up about a notorious sexual braggart now on his third wife banging a porn star.

Twelve years ago, at that, in 2006!

Posted by: Schaeffer at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (E7RiA)

150 The media is getting the vapors over this NDA, but not all the NDAs associated with Benghazi.

If there are no indictments coming from Mr. Huber soon, it's all like valium for the Trump base.

Posted by: CN at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (5gaNQ)

151 The fact I have heard of Stormy Daniels at all really pisses me off. She gives legit porn "artists" a bad name. Fucking slut.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (KP5rU)

152 The comments went to shit quick.
------
grrrrr grrrrrrr

Posted by: jasper at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (VBKy9)

153 Good gawd but Guy Benson is a squishy cheese wiener boor.

Posted by: 13times at May 03, 2018 04:51 PM (K3B2k)

154
Nevertrumpers: Trump is a sex maniac, let's vote to have Bill Clinton roam around the WH again!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 03, 2018 04:52 PM (r+sAi)

155 These people are like children who have never been socialized outside their kindergarten class for the last 50 years.

Posted by: Monk at May 03, 2018 04:52 PM (CtNpS)

156 Trump could bang a whore during the State of the Union as far as I care as long as he follows it with ripping out the Left's living guts.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 04:52 PM (Ifb4G)

157 As luck would have it, one of the friends of the deceased is a rapid feminist Dem who worked as an ambassador somewhere for Billy Jeff Clinton.

She is heading up the Resistance Movement here. I so badly wanted to slip something into her tea.

And she's quite the sourpuss, too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (ptqGC)

AoSHQ obligatory: She sounds nice.
Posted by: filbert

Well bless her heart.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 04:52 PM (dhqL5)

158 100
It's been 10 years ...

and you can still hear the echo of Stormy Danial's Vagina.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (pe3zc)

Yep, threadWINNER!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 03, 2018 04:52 PM (UsCnO)

159 These guys can't be arguing that Hillary Clinton has better morals than Donald Trump because that would be stupid. I mean really, purposefully stupid.
Posted by: Seems Legit

________

It's always been this standard of Republicans need to resemble Sunday School teachers and Democrats can do whatever the hell they want because the abortion issue means morality only applies to one party.

That really is the math they are using.

Posted by: Maritime at May 03, 2018 04:52 PM (lKmt3)

160 David French and others can say what they want but they haven't earned a grain of respect for anything they say.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 03, 2018 04:53 PM (Qy/KM)

161 The lesson here children is that President Trump should have just gratified himself.

Posted by: Jocelyn Elders at May 03, 2018 04:53 PM (pe3zc)

162 LeftCoast Dawg
---
Watch out for Steve, man.

Posted by: Stephen Hayes' Dog at May 03, 2018 04:53 PM (AzW6q)

163 Wait a minute, so if you're not a career politician you're NOT allowed to lie about who you're screwing, how old they are, whether they do it for a living, and so on?

I missed that part.

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2018 04:53 PM (anGdJ)

164
Trump could bang a whore during the State of the Union as far as I care as long as he follows it with ripping out the Left's living guts.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 04:52 PM (Ifb4G)

With his gold-plated, luxurious war-cock.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (XWkhW)

165 >>>119
probably more skeletons in their closets than the movie Skeletons

...

lulz!

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (8rNrN)

166 If only there was a belief system based around the fact that all human beings are flawed. It would have to be pretty big though.

Posted by: Mega at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (rv0Fo)

167 Hear, hear!

Nicely said, Ace.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (pvjTE)

168 You were not right. You were right as to many of your assumptions (that Trump is a dishonest guy with barely any knowledge about policy or conservative principles) -- but then, few even argued with you about those.

You know... Those guys who these dipshits do claim to have a knowledge of policy and conservative principles (The Boehners, the Paul Ryans, the Romneys) never seem to ever advance any of them, and a lot of times sure look to actually be working against them.

So why the hell shouldn't we go with someone they swore doesn't have the knowledge of it.

Posted by: buzzion at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (lKs2v)

169 I voted Trump because I knew I'd get at least *some* good stuff, versus NO good stuff with Felonia. Just how much good stuff, I didn't know (it turned out to be more than I hoped for) but the choice was some versus none.

Plus he clearly loved America and I was very curious to finally find out just how a businessman would do running the country, something I had always wondered about. Never thought it would be THIS businessman, but this was the choice we had. And lastly, the guy worked his damn ASS off for it.

I certainly knew who and what Donald Trump is. I grew up in NY during his real estate heyday. Nobody, but nobody, voted Trump to be pastor in chief.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (3dsTO)

170 I have a new pony...his name is Simpy.

Posted by: Dreamy James Comey at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (yhf6w)

171 Keep cucking that chicken.

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (J7XgW)

172 Why does that Trump get all the coverage?

I lusted for a woman in my heart!

Doesn't that count for anything?

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (UsCnO)

173 116 I think Trumps relationship with the stripper porn star is reprehensible, and I think his general treatment of other people is probably scumbaggy.

....America barfed up Hillary Clinton and Bernie The Red to run against him. Election over, and thankfully the least worst of the candidates won. And he's been doing an amazing job, by and large.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 04:48 PM (LISuA)

Exactamundo.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (ijopM)

174 Who was the last president who truly epitomized presidentialness and morality?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (Qy/KM)

175 166 If only there was a belief system based around the fact that all human beings are flawed. It would have to be pretty big though.
Posted by: Mega at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (rv0Fo)

I see where you're going with this.

Posted by: Cecile B. DeMille at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (+lOpA)

176 Let he and Melania work out his possible horndog issues. I'm not married to him. Don't care.

Posted by: never enough caffeine
---------------------------------------

I think she has a handle on the issue.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (QvdcM)

177 My favorite part of the Trump candidacy (and Presidency) is that Trump is over 35, is a natural-born citizen, has lived in the United States for at least fourteen years, and that is all the qualification he needed to become POTUS.

I really like that we got a POTUS with barebones qualifications. I really didn't like this thing that arose over time requiring POTUSes to be high-priests of the beltway insider club, and I'm really glad Trump blew that all up.

Posted by: Kensington at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (Cw3TC)

178 100

It's been 10 years ...

and you can still hear the echo of Stormy Danial's Vagina.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:45 PM (pe3zc)

Yep, threadWINNER!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 03, 2018 04:52 PM (UsCnO)

=========
So I was about to do Stormy and I looked down and said "My you have a big pussy.....big pussy...."
Stormy said "You didn't have to say that twice."
I said "I didn't."
Try the roast beef and tip your waitxhe.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (pw+jk)

179 You know, if I had known he banged a porn star ten years ago...nope, nevermind, I STILL would have voted for him! Who effing cares?!

I would call these people children, but that would be an insult to most children I know.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (MX7xj)

180 That damn Stephen Hayes gets ALL the action ....

Posted by: Dana Perino at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (fiGNd)

181 Trump's "flaws", whatever they are (list appreciated), appear to be irrelevant to his duties. Clinton's flaws, both of character and intellect, were integral to his disastrous unfitness for office, which had serious concrete consequences for the country and the world, including body counts.

So the way people are comparing the one (undocumented) set of flaws with a known, disastrous loser like Clinton is very stupid.

And ace as usual you way too easy on these lightweights. They supported an obviously stupid, sociopathic criminal* with idiotic policy "ideas". This is their level of understanding. No reason to treat them as any more serious or intellectually worthy than Maxine Waters or Obama.

* Her criminality was historic, and obvious for all to see, even *before* we found out, as we are, how corrupt and criminal entire segments of key national institutions had become in order to help/protect her ridiculous "career".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (QDnY+)

182 With his gold-plated, luxurious war-cock.

Where do you buy one of those?

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (anGdJ)

183 And she's quite the sourpuss, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 04:49 PM (ptqGC)

Did you suggest vinegar and water ?
Posted by: ScoggDog

For a douche or a drink?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 04:56 PM (dhqL5)

184 And another thing.

Comey is a really, really weird dude.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 03, 2018 04:56 PM (T71PA)

185 Who was the last president who truly epitomized presidentialness and morality?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (Qy/KM)

well if he were not such a RINO, which counts, I'd say Bush...but because he did not pardon Libby, I am going to go with Ford

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 04:56 PM (Lg2h/)

186 This bullshit idea that the president is some saintly paragon got exploded long ago.The media was discreet for many years about love lives and debauchery by presidents.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2018 04:56 PM (LiyEm)

187 On one corner we have a known prostitute (it's legal if you film it apparently) who broke a non-disclosure agreement about alleged carnal excursions (aka - shut up go away money) which appears suspiciously like a shakedown

vs

It really doesn't matter who is in the other corner.
Contestant number one is objectively a dishonest money grubbing whore.
Anyone who gives the claims credibility to be further investigated is dishonest.

It's not slut shaming. It is the dishonest money grubbing.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 03, 2018 04:56 PM (Eu5eZ)

188 My preference is for a President who is faithful and honest. I'll settle for one who is doing a good job, and doesn't lie to LE.

Mike Pence is the former, but he could bore a hole through a diamond.

Posted by: pep at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (LAe3v)

189 182; Dick's. They are where the war rifles used to be.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (KP5rU)

190 With his gold-plated, luxurious war-cock.

Where do you buy one of those?
Posted by: JEM

Men's Department at Macy's.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (dhqL5)

191 So all this crap about how Hillary was the "most qualified candidate in history!!!!1!!!!1111!" mattered not at all.

Nor should it have, even if it weren't complete bullshit.

- Natural-born citizen
- At least 35 years old
- A resident for at least 14 years.

That's all. Not special pantsuits or shady foundations necessary.

Posted by: Kensington at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (Cw3TC)

192 and that is all the qualification he needed to become POTUS

You forgot the gold-plated luxurious war-cock.

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (anGdJ)

193 What I love is watching Stephen Hayes and all the NeverTrumpers watch Stormy Davis extort money from Trump in real time, and they're cheering her on. Stephen Hayes is actually on the side of a criminal over the president. That's how fucking nuts he is.

I call her an extortionist because she admits soliciting at least one payment from Trump to stay silent and any reasonable person would admit she is only going public now because she thinks she was underpaid. If Trump paid her again, she'd disappear. Until she needed more money.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (LISuA)

194 Look, Trump is a rogue and a rake.... but unlike his opponent in 2016, he is not a traitor and a mercenary. So I voted for him, and will even more happily do so again.... he is General Grant... " the man fights"...

Posted by: kraken at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (zSVEm)

195
My favorite part of the Trump candidacy (and Presidency) is that Trump
is over 35, is a natural-born citizen, has lived in the United States
for at least fourteen years, and that is all the qualification he needed to become POTUS.

I
really like that we got a POTUS with barebones qualifications. I really
didn't like this thing that arose over time requiring POTUSes to be
high-priests of the beltway insider club, and I'm really glad Trump blew
that all up.

Posted by: Kensington at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (Cw3TC)

Which is the very reason the True Cons and Deep State despise him. How dare he!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (ptqGC)

196 Margin clean up on #28, please. Looks like the thing being quoted was caught but not before it got propagated.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (V3nW3)

197 15 Stephen Hayes lies about fucking dogs.
All. The. Time.

Posted by: garrett
-------------------------

What?
Steve Hayes fucks dogs?

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 04:35 PM (QvdcM)

++++

The opposite. The dogs won't have him, but he pretends he does.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (pvjTE)

198 What has Bill Kristol employee Stephen Hayes done to move the cause of conservatism one single inch?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (Ifb4G)

199
165 >>>119
probably more skeletons in their closets than the movie Skeletons

...

lulz!

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2018 04:54 PM (8rNrN)

International treaty! All skeletons come from India.

Y'know, I think there's a skeleton farm over there....

Posted by: Frank, at Uneeda Medical Supply at May 03, 2018 04:58 PM (XWkhW)

200 NeverTrumpers: Trump's a doody-head!!!!

The Left:

Students petition to eliminate 'offensive' Colonial mascot

"More than 200 George Washington University students have signed a petition calling on the school to adopt a new mascot and nickname, saying the current "Colonials" moniker "has too deep a connection to colonization."

campusreform.org/?ID=10857

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 03, 2018 04:58 PM (LNPd9)

201 What I want for Constitutional offices is people who uphold the Constitutional principles of self-governance and the Constitution itself.

This is the very basics of being entrusted with Constitutional authority in a Constitutional office.

Trump has done that.

You need to go get yourself checked if you believe that Hillary believes in either of those things.

Posted by: Guys who took care of Vince Foster at May 03, 2018 04:58 PM (vDqXW)

202 That's not fair. I've always been candid about just how much Jasper means to me.
----
woof woof [wags tail]

Posted by: jasper at May 03, 2018 04:58 PM (VBKy9)

203
It is true that they would rather have a corrupt lying treasonous Hillary than Trump. Why won't they admit her evil ways and still stand up and say she was the better candidate?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 03, 2018 04:58 PM (r+sAi)

204 And, by the way, Stormy Daniels does look really good in a pencil skirt.

Posted by: Kensington at May 03, 2018 04:58 PM (Cw3TC)

205 Trump said shit every day that the average GOP fag would have bowed out of the race over.I found it hilarious as he was written off time after time and ithad no effect on him or he got even more popular.It has held true into his first year plus in office.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2018 04:58 PM (LiyEm)

206 They are never going to stop going after PDT. If not for being a horn dog, then for wiping with the wrong hand...So get over his faults and let's support all the good he is doing and the answer to any and all left wing critisisms is "Fuck You, Blow me"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (Lg2h/)

207 And another thing.

Comey is a really, really weird dude.
Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 03, 2018 04:56 PM (T71PA)
---
True dat. PDT talks smack about literally everyone who ever pisses him off. Sometimes it's pretty off-base - reference Cruz' dad - and it can be tough to tell when he's serious. But he was dead, bang-on the nail when he said Comey was nuts.

That guy belongs in a freakin' asylum.

Sandcastles. Good Lord. The top lawman in the US. Sandcastles.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (AzW6q)

208 When people stop trying to promote zim/zhe/zher and and keep telling us that a man with a p-nis is a women, and a white man can be a black man just cuz he thinks he is, then maybe I'll care about these ridiculous sex issues. When the Dems decided we had to look the other way on Billy boy, they never some how thought they'd have to do the same for one of ours.

tfb

Posted by: Slinky Sally at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (sBDDH)

209 The opposite. The dogs won't have him, but he pretends he does.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (pvjTE)

====
Oh some will for coke or a forty.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (pw+jk)

210
She is heading up the Resistance Movement here. I so badly wanted to slip something into her tea.

Nah. You shoulda told her, "The chair is against the wall. The chair is against the wall."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (pNxlR)

211 Trump's "flaws", whatever they are (list appreciated), appear to be irrelevant to his duties. Clinton's flaws, both of character and intellect, were integral to his disastrous unfitness for office, which had serious concrete consequences for the country and the world, including body counts.
...
Posted by: rhomboid
----------------------------

This thread can only tolerate so much truth.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (QvdcM)

212 >>Stormy Daniels does look really good in a pencil skirt.

She's no Hyapatia Lee.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (pe3zc)

213
Students petition to eliminate 'offensive' Colonial mascot

"More than 200 George Washington University students have signed a
petition calling on the school to adopt a new mascot and nickname,
saying the current "Colonials" moniker "has too deep a connection to
colonization."

George Washington, slaveowner.

Derp, derp, derp.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (Ifb4G)

214 It seems a high percentage of office holders are trash so maybe I have unfortunately low expectations.
It's a bit of a pleasant surprise when a candidate actually appears to be a good person.
My assumption, perhaps unfair, is that any leftist is a vile human being.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 03, 2018 05:00 PM (Qy/KM)

215
and let's not forget the reason this stormy chick is in the news is because its a pile on to a fabrication Hillary paid for and Obama sent through the govt. mill.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 03, 2018 05:00 PM (r+sAi)

216 I saw it suggested that Stormy has grounds for a defamation lawsuit.

Can you defame someone whose credits include "Toxxxic Cumshots 6"?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2018 05:00 PM (vChNs)

217 May they all eat a bag of diseased dycks and choke on it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2018 05:00 PM (9ls8w)

218 A decade ago.

Nothing since then.

If you cannot see that is important, I don't think there's any reaching you. If you're unwilling to let something go that happened in the past, and see the good in someone changing for the better, I really don't think you're a very good person yourself.

I mean for crying out loud, that long ago the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise was hot and exciting, Daniel Craig had just become James Bond, Will and Grace was still on the air, Dr Who had just rebooted, Anna Nicole Smith and Merv Griffin were still alive, and Daniel Powter had a big hit with "Bad Day." Gray's Anatomy and American Idol were top shows, and George Bush was still president.

For people who are 29, that's not that long ago but.. it really was a while ago. Forever ago for young people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (39g3+)

219 200 Oh my God,the US was colonized!LOL

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (LiyEm)

220 If Trump was exactly the same except a communist, these Lefty pricks would have embraced him with a hero worship like you've never seen in your life.

Posted by: Mega at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (rv0Fo)

221 This bullshit idea that the president is some saintly paragon got exploded long ago.The media was discreet for many years about love lives and debauchery by presidents.

Posted by: steevy
----------------------

Hmm, somewhere around the turn of the twentieth century we had a president who was banging a teenager in the White House.

I don't think anyone GAS.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (QvdcM)

222 What has Bill Kristol employee Stephen Hayes done to move the cause of conservatism one single inch?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 04:57 PM (Ifb4G)

What have *any* of them done?Zip.Zero.Nada.We had to wait for a Manhattan businessman with a Queens accent who has been a pop culture celebrity for nearly forty years to actually watch conservative action items being delivered. He has humiliated them.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet sponsors the musical - Life and Times of Sonobi at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (0QYMt)

223 Stormy Daniels does look really good in a pencil skirt.

===

I put a pencil thin mustache on her.

Posted by: Guermo "Dirty" Sanchez at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (pw+jk)

224 206 They are never going to stop going after PDT. If not for being a horn dog, then for wiping with the wrong hand...So get over his faults and let's support all the good he is doing and the answer to any and all left wing critisisms is "Fuck You, Blow me"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (Lg2h/)

-------

Agree.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (U+nHb)

225 And, by the way, Stormy Daniels does look really good in a pencil skirt.
===============================

She's ugly as sin.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (LISuA)

226 Like the old Clinton line...

If your coming for Trump, you better bring some Kryptonite.

Posted by: Jwest at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (/roJx)

227 The George Washington Hempgrowers

It's historically accurate and the kids will really go for it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (3dsTO)

228 She's no Hyapatia Lee.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 04:59 PM (pe3zc)

Post-Boob Job Hyapatia Lee was no Hyapatia Lee.

Rare is the lass that doesn't benefit from Bigger Boobs. Yet - Hyapatia Lee was one such lass.

Her natural boobs were perky and damn near perfect, with a delightful upturn.

You people can waste your efforts using the Time Machine to go back and kill Hitler. I'm using it to stop Hyapatia Lee from making the biggest mistake of our lives.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (fiGNd)

229 What I cannot get is what the nevertrumpers are hoping will happen. What do they figure is the end game for them?

1. Base turns against Trump
2. ???
3. Pence is president

Is that their thinking?? What is their goal, what do they want to see take place?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (39g3+)

230 I will say though that Cohen is a really shitty lawyer to have advised Trump to give Stormy Daniels a big payoff and then tried to sue for her breaking her NDA.

Just seems like the worst advice you could possibly give.

Stormy Daniels would have been a 1 day tabloid story had she not had that paper trail. It would have been a "he said, she said" just like all of these other Gloria Alred skanks that made claims against Trump.

Posted by: Maritime at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (lKmt3)

231 Stephen Hayes....fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: Zzzzzzz at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (WPxnj)

232 There has to be 2 dozen congressional members with payoffs to women from sexual harassment or misconduct.

Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (aC6Sd)

233 >> The George Washington Hempgrowers

The Fightin' Wooden Molars

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 05:03 PM (pe3zc)

234 "Let me explain this to you as I would explain it to a Social Justice Warrior (a breed you endlessly-emotional moral scolds increasingly resemble): I don't care if you're Morally Outraged and Deeply Offended."

----------

For people deeply concerned about morally outrageous behavior they seem extremely unconcerned about FBI and/or Mueller "wiretapping" Trump's lawyer. To me that action is evidence of a coup yet they are exercised about a porn star.

What's more immoral, lying about a porn star or lying to your voters before every election then cheating on them with the opposition?

Posted by: Decaf at May 03, 2018 05:03 PM (/3+Sg)

235 I didn't like Clinton shoving a cigar up an intern's vag in the White House/Oval Office. Keep your fetishes out of my White House.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2018 05:03 PM (U+nHb)

236 She is heading up the Resistance Movement here. I so badly wanted to slip something into her tea.

Nah. You shoulda told her, "The chair is against the wall. The chair is against the wall."
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

The tits are not calm. Repeat: The tits are not calm.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 05:03 PM (dhqL5)

237 Stormy Daniels just looks manufactured... to fit the roles she played... pretty stock character, actually... Trump could do better than that..

Posted by: kraken at May 03, 2018 05:03 PM (zSVEm)

238 She's ugly as sin.

I don't think Stormy Daniels fans are even aware that she has a face.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:03 PM (39g3+)

239 233 >> The George Washington Hempgrowers

The Fightin' Wooden Molars

LOL!

The Treechoppers

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2018 05:03 PM (3dsTO)

240 "I think Trumps relationship with the stripper porn star is reprehensible, and I think his general treatment of other people is probably scumbaggy."

Not sure I agree with this. I've read a lot of stories about him doing really nice things for the average joe....way before he was running for president.

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:04 PM (Enq6K)

241 Trump committed adultery.

Hillary committed treason.

I know which act I take more seriously. I know which act affects this country more deeply.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 03, 2018 05:04 PM (l9m7l)

242 As for the lying (not under oath): I have to say I really don't care much about a guy lying about something which quite frankly isn't any of my business and which most people like about.

Hear, hear!

And double points for the Freudian slip "most people like about".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 03, 2018 05:04 PM (hTOcI)

243 231 Stephen Hayes....fuck that guy in particular.
Posted by: Zzzzzzz at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (WPxnj)

Where has my buddy, Charles C.W. Cooke been lately?

I can't remember the last time I told him to go fuck himself.

Posted by: Jwest at May 03, 2018 05:04 PM (/roJx)

244 What these assholes what to do is shame Christians for not behaving like the Christians that they are constantly defining and seeking to control. Afterall, they can't have Christians running off the plantation.

Posted by: Monk at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (CtNpS)

245 MAGA is my priority

Posted by: concrete girl at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (zr8oO)

246 Personally I never fantasized or would ever stick mine in or near any porn "star"...PDT has more guts, or a better immune system, than me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (Lg2h/)

247 Even the 'Native' Americans colonized the Americas via a land bridge from Asia.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (9ls8w)

248 Melania isn't going anywhere. She knew what she was getting into when she married Trump. Besides, those Eastern European women don't think like typical American women.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (kufk0)

249 Whats the name of the sex movie Ace is reviewing?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (aljs9)

250 MAGA is my priority
Posted by: concrete girl at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (zr8oO)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (Lg2h/)

251
Ben Howe
David French
Hayes wants

"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone ..."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (fceHP)

252 Stifling over-regulation. Taxes. Mass, disastrous lawlessness on immigration/border security.
____________________

Speaking of which, it's being reported that there were 39,000 apprehensions of illegals on the southern border in April.

Given that BP only catches a small fraction of those who cross illegally, that means that hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens made it across the border undetected last month. That's just one month.

There is currently a backlog of over 1 million cases pending in U.S. immigration courts.

It was recently reported that each "refugee" in the U.S. costs U.S. taxpayers over $40,000 a year, which is more than the average American family earns in a year. Also, more than 50% of immigrants, both legal and illegal, are receiving at least one form of federal welfare.

We have $21 trillion in public debt, which we are now trying to finance by issuing 2-month T bills. Once interest rates get back to a more normal 3% rate, we will be spending more on servicing our massive debt than we spend on defense. In fact, interest payments on our debt will become our third largest government expense, after SS and Medicare.

Despite our dire economic straits, our government continues to allow hundreds of thousands of third-world poor to swarm across our borders every month and many of them will seek, and be granted, refugee status here.

But yeah, the most important issue facing our nation right now is whether or not Donald Trump paid some skanky whore to keep her mouth shut about having had sex with him over a decade ago.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (fqUgw)

253 Is that paste coming out of Stormy Daniels vajayjay. Because I could go for some paste right about now.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (pw+jk)

254 182
With his gold-plated, luxurious war-cock.

Where do you buy one of those?

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2018 04:55 PM (anGdJ)

Just search for "war-cock", and you will get 3 pages of results at my site.
You're welcome!

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (UsCnO)

255 I think that if George Washington could come back, he would demand his name be no longer associated with George Washington University.

Then he would proceed to kick the ever-loving shit out of these "students".

Posted by: Archer at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (gbWkA)

256 I wish we had the luxury of voting for only saintly candidates, I really do.

The NeverTrumpers are safe (for now) from the sociopathic progressive worker bee army.

The rest of us are not, so we will vote for fighters whenever we can.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (GzDYP)

257 220 If Trump was exactly the same except a communist, these Lefty pricks would have embraced him with a hero worship like you've never seen in your life.
Posted by: Mega at May 03, 2018 05:01 PM (rv0Fo)

Excellent point.

Posted by: rickl at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (xjiRE)

258 The number one rule of Christianity is that we are ALL SINNERS. And the number two rule is THERE IS FORGIVENESS IN CHRIST.

If you do something wrong, that's a sin and shame on you, on your knees before The Lord. But if you stop... then that is praiseworthy and to be honored.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (39g3+)

259 Dozens of progressives have told me that "everyone lies about sex" and Clinton looking the entire nation in the eye (on TV) and lying was totes OK.

My, have the rules changed? I didn't get the memo.

Posted by: West at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (7Fa8Y)

260 Just FUI, Juan Williams is thick headed.

Posted by: Chillin the most at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (S5wVA)

261 There was a time that pro athletes were held out as heroes. That fell apart over 50 years ago when the sportswriters stopped covering up for them.

Same thing has been happening with politicians in the last 30 years. Only difference is narc-ing on a players drinking/whoring doesn't change who wins the games.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (vChNs)

262 246 Personally I never fantasized or would ever stick mine in or near any porn "star"...PDT has more guts, or a better immune system, than me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (Lg2h/)

Isn't Trump a germaphobe?

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (Enq6K)

263 Even the 'Native' Americans colonized the Americas via a land bridge from Asia.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (9ls8w)

Three times! Fighting each other every step of the way.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (hTOcI)

264
She is heading up the Resistance Movement here. I so badly wanted to slip something into her tea.

The Resistance is really just a front of dupes and suckers to protect corruption and the status quo.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (Ifb4G)

265
Whats the name of the sex movie Ace is reviewing?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (aljs9)

"1,001 Trumpian Nights."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:07 PM (ptqGC)

266 Personally I never fantasized or would ever stick mine in or near any porn "star"...PDT has more guts, or a better immune system, than me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (Lg2h/)

Isn't Trump a germaphobe?
Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:06 PM (Enq6K)

That is what I thought also?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:07 PM (Lg2h/)

267 I've decide to take a look at Stormy's official website, so y'all won't have to, and will report back what I find.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 03, 2018 05:07 PM (4e+hS)

268 Stormy Daniels just looks manufactured... to fit the roles she played... pretty stock character, actually... Trump could do better than that..
Posted by: kraken

Trump - known germophobe.

Stormy - cockholster.

One generally doesn't hang with the other.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 05:07 PM (dhqL5)

269 Christians are of two sorts basically.... Liberal Mainline types, who voted Hillary.... and Conservative Non Denoms, Catholics, and Fundies who voted Trump.... none of this will budge the Vote needle, I opine...

Posted by: kraken at May 03, 2018 05:07 PM (zSVEm)

270 1. Base turns against Trump
2. ???
3. Pence is president

Is that their thinking?? What is their goal, what do they want to see take place?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (39g3+)
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It would be absolutely self-immolation of the Republican Party to want the stain of the first President removed from office a Republican.

However, if they think they can get him to resign, then it might be Nixon II.

Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 05:07 PM (vDqXW)

271 No one believes you're arguing about "principles" here. It's obvious to everyone that you're not arguing about Eternal Principles or American Values; you're arguing about a much smaller and shabbier thing: You're whining that You were right, and damnit, other people should admit we were right!

AKA Hissy fit.

Time out!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:07 PM (fceHP)

272 ...saying the current "Colonials" moniker "has too deep a connection to colonization." ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 03, 2018 04:58 PM (LNPd9)

Tell Mua'dib that "Colonial" is a killing word.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (T71PA)

273 >>>If you do something wrong, that's a sin and shame on you, on your knees before The Lord. But if you stop... then that is praiseworthy and to be honored.

What if you do something wrong and lie and said you never did, and if you did it so what?

Posted by: Denny Barron at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (KkyDr)

274 Not sure I agree with this. I've read a lot of stories about him doing really nice things for the average joe....way before he was running for president.

I think his behavior is based on a basic Super Alpha/Tycoon's attitude: if you are a potential enemy or rival, I will destroy you. If you annoy me, I will destroy you. if you are no harm to me, I will be great to you. He'll help people in need but he'll crush anyone in his path.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (39g3+)

275 I don't think Stormy Daniels fans are even aware that she has a face.

Her body is solid and trunk-like. Her boobs are so fake you feel a little sympathetically uncomfortable. But I don't really care about her looks, since she might in turn say some things about me that I might not want to hear.

What I think is she's a nasty blackmailer and- worse - she's a blackmailer who won't stay bought.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (LISuA)

276 (200) George Washington colonized North America?

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (RuIsu)

277 Whats the name of the sex movie Ace is reviewing?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 03, 2018 05:05 PM (aljs9)

9 1/2 Months ... since Trump was elected.

Well ... close enough.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (hTOcI)

278 I must have missed something. What is the lie they are babbling about?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (QQ+il)

279 One side: adulterous capitalist who does not support killing babies.
Other side: adulterous communists who do support killing babies.

It's not really a difficult choice.

Posted by: Anagram Nation at May 03, 2018 05:09 PM (GXOTw)

280 Oh another concernedly concerned new poster.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2018 05:09 PM (LiyEm)

281 Dozens of progressives have told me that "everyone lies about sex" and
Clinton looking the entire nation in the eye (on TV) and lying was totes
OK.

My, have the rules changed? I didn't get the memo.

That was the first change.

Before that, it was WOMEN DON'T LIE and ANITA HILL IS A SAINT!

It changes with the political wind.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 05:09 PM (Ifb4G)

282 MSNBC is now reporting that Cohen's phone was not tapped. Pen register not tapping.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:09 PM (/tuJf)

283 237
Stormy Daniels just looks manufactured... to fit the roles she played...
pretty stock character, actually... Trump could do better than that..

Posted by: kraken at May 03, 2018 05:03 PM (zSVEm)

Look at Stormy, now picture her 12 years younger.
That is what got schlupped, not the old bag of silicone-filled MILF we see on CNN etc, today.

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at May 03, 2018 05:09 PM (UsCnO)

284 the NeverTrumpers are all-in on character questions and treat policy questions as if they were silly distractions -- the policy choices each candidate would make, the legislation each would support, the policy of either enforcement or nonenforcement of immigration laws each would champion, and the judges each would nominate.

Trump's back to 50%, so they land in the other half.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:10 PM (fceHP)

285 Given a choice a profligate who would actively defend freedom of speech and religion and a sexually moral person hates freedom of speech and religion and I would vote for the profligate.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 03, 2018 05:10 PM (Qy/KM)

286 I think his behavior is based on a basic Super Alpha/Tycoon's attitude: if you are a potential enemy or rival, I will destroy you. If you annoy me, I will destroy you. if you are no harm to me, I will be great to you. He'll help people in need but he'll crush anyone in his path.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (39g3+)

So...just like Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:10 PM (Enq6K)

287 Guy Benson has the intellectual candle-power of a high school newspaper editor. Which makes him a heavyweight in the "conservative" pundit community, and a veritable J.S. Mill in the wider punditocracy.

Last time I was exposed to his deep thoughts, several years ago, he beclowned himself (and the quote is memorable) by saying he was "not one who pounds the table over illegal immigration". Hilarious!

"I am not one who pounds the table over economic growth and prosperity"
"I am not one who pounds the table over national security"
"I am not one who pounds the table over (insert any serious topic that actually is the point of national politics"

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2018 05:10 PM (QDnY+)

288 I could tell by the way her saddlebags looked Stormy would make a great pornstar.

Posted by: David Brooks at May 03, 2018 05:10 PM (pw+jk)

289 A while back I perused some of Stormy's oeuvre over at PronHub, purely in the name of research.

I found it rather pedestrian. On a scale of one to ten I give her a "meh."

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2018 05:10 PM (3dsTO)

290 What if you do something wrong and lie and said you never did, and if you did it so what?

Did you ever do it again? If not, then you're just belligerent about it. Again: let those without sin cast the first stone, go and sin no more.

Isn't Trump a germaphobe?

I think he's just really careful, not weird about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:10 PM (39g3+)

291 224 206 What they said. Twice.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at May 03, 2018 05:11 PM (JZJ9v)

292 Pre-election, I was on board with the 'Trump is flawed' camp.

After watching him in action, I don't care about his flaws. He's good at this and he's good for America.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards Now With Infinity War Review at May 03, 2018 05:11 PM (xJa6I)

293 What I cannot get is what the nevertrumpers are hoping will happen.
...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
----------------------------------------

They are throwing everything and anything at Trump hoping that something will stick.

I think he had himself checked out before getting into the race. He had his people punish his past.
He passed the test.

And before it's over he's going to fuck Mueller, and he's going to fuck Comey, and he's going to fuck the whole fetid lot of them. And if we're lucky he's going to fuck McConnell, his wife, and that rotting bunch bunch in the senate. And do the same for the house.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:11 PM (QvdcM)

294
"Ace Degenerate"

That's the title of the free youtube episode of "Cobra Kai," the continuing [comedy] saga of The Karate Kid.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 03, 2018 05:11 PM (g143o)

295 286 I think his behavior is based on a basic Super Alpha/Tycoon's attitude: if you are a potential enemy or rival, I will destroy you. If you annoy me, I will destroy you. if you are no harm to me, I will be great to you. He'll help people in need but he'll crush anyone in his path.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:08 PM (39g3+)

So...just like Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:10 PM (Enq6K)

I take that back...she's great to no one...ever.

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:12 PM (Enq6K)

296
and here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rB36UGoP4Y

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 03, 2018 05:12 PM (g143o)

297 ...his commie wife...

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:12 PM (QvdcM)

298 Astros score 4 in the bottom of the 7th to come back and go ahead of the Yankees 4-3 then added another in the bottom of the 8th. Yanks came back in the top of the ninth with 3 of their own to go back up 6-5. Chapman in. Jesus Sanchez can't catch 3rd strike and now 2 men on 2 outs..Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:12 PM (Lg2h/)

299 In all likelihood, you will go to your graves lying.

ouch

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:12 PM (fceHP)

300 293. Yep. They turned a NY republican into a maniac. Genghis Don - that moniker will become well-known.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at May 03, 2018 05:13 PM (fA1SL)

301 Nevertrump means forever Hillary

Posted by: Richard A Hennigan at May 03, 2018 05:13 PM (IR6S/)

302 What I think is she's a nasty blackmailer and- worse - she's a blackmailer who won't stay bought.
________________

Yes, she was probably paid a sizable amount for her signature on the original NDA. But then Trump won the nomination and she figured she could increase her pay-off.

No honor among thieves, and apparently none among skanky whores either.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 03, 2018 05:13 PM (fqUgw)

303 So...just like Hillary Clinton?

Except that as opposed to Hillary who seems to be a genuine sociopath, Trump seems to actually like people. So he'll be nice to folks unless they are a rival or threat to his goals.

She just hates everyone and attacks those between her and a goal.

Trump is by all accounts congenial and charming to people but Hillary treats everyone with total contempt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:13 PM (39g3+)

304 >>>What is their goal?

to be told they're right.

i disagree and think they're wrong.

how do you like me now?!

Posted by: concrete girl at May 03, 2018 05:13 PM (zr8oO)

305 > I take that back...she's great to no one...ever.

Yeah, she's infamous for mistreating her underlings or anyone else she perceives as beneath her.

Posted by: Anagram Nation at May 03, 2018 05:13 PM (GXOTw)

306 MSNBC is now reporting that Cohen's phone was not tapped. Pen register not tapping.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:09 PM (/tuJf)

To Tap, or Not To Tap ... THAT is the question;
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of Golden Scalp Weasels
Or to take arms against a Basket of Deplorables

Posted by: FBI Agent Having an Existential Crisis at May 03, 2018 05:13 PM (fiGNd)

307 Trump is by all accounts congenial and charming to people but Hillary treats everyone with total contempt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:13 PM (39g3+)

Because he is a relatively normal person with the same flaws of all of us

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:14 PM (Lg2h/)

308
And before it's over he's going to fuck Mueller,
and he's going to fuck Comey, and he's going to fuck the whole fetid
lot of them. And if we're lucky he's going to fuck McConnell, his wife,
and that rotting bunch bunch in the senate. And do the same for the
house.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:11 PM (QvdcM)

============
That's why the swamp is fighting so hard. They know they are in a corner and about to be hurt. Perhaps fatally.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 03, 2018 05:14 PM (pw+jk)

309 They're trying to peel off Trump's support so people won't come out in November-Democrats win-and at some point -following up on the "metoo" movement Gloria Alred will bring forth additional Trump accusers who never said anything for the past 30 years. Then attempt at Impeachment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2018 05:14 PM (tpDAe)

310 You were right as to many of your assumptions (that Trump is a dishonest guy with barely any knowledge about policy or conservative principles)

He understands the one most important issue. Our immigration "policy" is destroying us, and for us to fix anything else, we must fix that first as top priority. That's why he was elected. If he manages to do only that, I would say he's the greatest President who ever lived. It may not be possible I admit - Congress, the judiciary and several federal agencies need to be cleaned out.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 03, 2018 05:14 PM (/qEW2)

311 can't catch 3rd strike and now 2 men on 2 outs..Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Don't give up.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:14 PM (QvdcM)

312 Hillary would cannibalize the country and sell it off to the highest bidder, as she has done for 25 years.

Trump won't.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 05:14 PM (oVJmc)

313

Good post. Finally finished.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:14 PM (fceHP)

314 struck out altuve and Yanks win and take 3 out of 4
6-1 on the road trip

Hey how did the Met's do today? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:15 PM (Lg2h/)

315 If Stormy had pulled this shit with the Clintons we would have had a three bullet suicide in the back of the head and a 4 hour news cycle on it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 03, 2018 05:15 PM (pw+jk)

316
Look at Stormy, now picture her 12 years younger.
That is what got schlupped, not the old bag of silicone-filled MILF we see on CNN etc, today.

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at May 03, 2018 05:09 PM (UsCnO)

She was hot af when she was 27.

Posted by: Monk at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (CtNpS)

317 "Free trade absolutists are very sympathetic to, if not outright supportive of, the idea that just as goods should be free to cross borders unimpeded, so too should labor."

Strongly disagree.

Business interests are sympathetic to both, because they are clear, immediate beneficiaries of both. Libertarians are sympathetic to both, because they are both consistent with their ideology.

Free trade and unrestricted movement of labor create very different economic outcomes. Trade is inherently positive, or at the very least neutral, to each party participating in the transaction. Unrestricted movement of labor results in wages averaging out between two populations. When dealing with two very disparate economies, one set of workers' gains quite directly comes at the expense of the other.

Posted by: Sjg at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (gDSJf)

318 They are throwing everything and anything at Trump hoping that something will stick.

But to what end? What is their goal??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (39g3+)

319 How old is Stormy's daughter? She's got to be super proud of her whore mom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (ptqGC)

320 If Stormy had pulled this shit with the Clintons we would have had a three bullet suicide in the back of the head and a 4 hour news cycle on it.
-------
*clap, clap, clap*
You nailed it...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 03, 2018 05:17 PM (kufk0)

321 > But to what end? What is their goal??

They're evil.

Posted by: Anagram Nation at May 03, 2018 05:17 PM (GXOTw)

322 319 How old is Stormy's daughter? She's got to be super proud of her whore mom.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (ptqGC)

-------

I'll bet Take Your Daughter To Work Day is a hoot at their house.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 03, 2018 05:18 PM (n6XcA)

323 The latest addition to special counsel Robert Muellers team of prosecutors contributed to Hillary Clintons 2008 presidential campaign, according to federal campaign records.

Uzo Asonye, an assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, is joining Muellers stable of prosecutors to work as local counsel on the case against Paul Manafort, President Donald Trumps former campaign chairman who has been indicted on money laundering and bank fraud charges.

Conservatives need not apply

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:18 PM (Lg2h/)

324 Look at Stormy, now picture her 12 years younger.
That is what got schlupped, not the old bag of silicone-filled MILF we see on CNN etc, today.

Posted by: Jeff Bezos

She's not a MILF if no one wants to.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 05:18 PM (dhqL5)

325 Good post. Finally finished.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:14 PM (fceHP)

lol

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at May 03, 2018 05:18 PM (ijopM)

326

I don't care if PDT is flawed. He is far less flawed than SCOAMF.

And about that dishonesty, SCOAMF was and is a hell of a lot more dishonest than PDT. In fact, what's honest about setting up a shadow government as he has done? And that's just one out of many examples that can be cited.

There's no comparison between PDT and even the very best Prog, if there is such a thing. We're all far better off with PDT in the WH.

Posted by: Rabbits everywhere at May 03, 2018 05:18 PM (GdWl+)

327 She's not a MILF if no one wants to.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 05:18 PM (dhqL5)

Stormy Daniels is still a One.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (fiGNd)

328 >>>the NeverTrumpers are all-in on character questions and treat policy questions as if they were silly distractions

This is what is so annoying about them. I don't even think they care about character questions. They are like the (out of the closet) Leftists talking about "Russia" because they think it's a Pavlovian signal that will cause conservatives to instinctively turn against the President.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (/qEW2)

329
George Washington Instigators, to commemorate his role in getting the French and Indian War up and running.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (pNxlR)

330 But to what end? What is their goal??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (39g3+)

The end? To impeach him, Drive him from Office, Restock the Courts and the Supreme Court with left wingers, Destroy us on the Right, Destroy America

Shit like that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (Lg2h/)

331 318 They are throwing everything and anything at Trump hoping that something will stick.

But to what end? What is their goal??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (39g3+)

They don't know....just say they were right, damnit!!

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (Enq6K)

332 I, a married white suburban woman, do not give a damn about this. (And I also think she's lying. Trump is a known germophobe.). We have the best economic negotiating team ever, working to protect American jobs. We have a great Secretary of Treasury, finding ways to get loans for small businesses. We have several agencies repealing overly restrictive regulations. We have respect from world leaders that held us in contempt during the Obama years. We have a helluva lot more folks working. And theres sven a good chance of calming things down in Korea. We'd have more accomplished if all these RINOs would stop whining about Trump and push our agenda through.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (Lqy/e)

333 Very accurate and perceptive, Ace.
I used another insight of yours today.
I called my senator's office - schumer - and asked the intern if the Senator was a Giants fan. When he confirmed it, I asked the factotum what kind of Giants fan Schumer was if he did everything he could to make Giants QB Eli Manning fail and was rooting for him to fail. "Donald Trump was elected to be the Quarterback of the United States," I said. "So what team is my senator really on?"

Posted by: vivi at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (11H2y)

334 > She's not a MILF if no one wants to.

Indeed. When I see some of the women described as "MILFs" I think "I'm sorry your mother was a tatted-up, silicone-inflated crack whore."

Posted by: Anagram Nation at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (GXOTw)

335 They are throwing everything and anything at Trump hoping that something will stick.

But to what end? What is their goal??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (39g3+)

Impeachment.

The crazy Resistance womyn who was at the funeral reception I just hosted today, writes these insane letters to the editor of our prog fish wrap. It's all about impeaching PDT "to save the country!"

She drives a car with an I'm With Her sticker and a Resist! sticker. She also had her pinched face up Obama's ass, hoping for another sweet ambassadorship like the one Clinton gave her (France, I believe). I've had encounters with her before. She's a piece of work.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (ptqGC)

336 >>But to what end? What is their goal??

Trump is not of the body. He is a mortal threat to everyone in DC who makes their living by being part of the establishment or in the case of the media being their stenographers.

They don't want to just drive Trump out, they want to make it clear that they will destroy anyone who even works with Trump so that there never will be another Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (/tuJf)

337 Anyone? Mueller? Anyone?

Posted by: Ben Stein's funny voice at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (ty7RM)

338 >>Hey how did the Met's do today?

Lost a pitcher last night, so they are right on track.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (pe3zc)

339 I'm inclined to give Trump the benefit of the doubt in that whatever the media reports about him I will instantly believe the opposite, so no I do not believe he engaged in schadenboningmeinfreusels with Stormy.

And Guy Benson can go get butt fucked by the barbed bowsprit of Captain Blackbeard's pirate ship.

Posted by: Forderick Wonkensteen at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (+dsLj)

340 But to what end? What is their goal??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (39g3+)

To crush him, to see him driven before them, and to hear the lamentation of his women.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (fiGNd)

341

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (fiGNd)

342 229 What I cannot get is what the nevertrumpers are hoping will happen. What do they figure is the end game for them?

1. Base turns against Trump
2. ???
3. Pence is president

Is that their thinking?? What is their goal, what do they want to see take place?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:02 PM (39g3+)

++++

Yes, that is their goal. They would like to fill in #2 with Impeachment, likely based on something like obstruction of justice. That's why Mueller wants to ask Trump about his motives in firing Comey. That's why they raided Cohen's office.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (pvjTE)

343 They are throwing everything and anything at Trump hoping that something will stick.

But to what end? What is their goal??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (39g3+)

impeach and intimidate anyone else who dares in the future

you notice how they always talk about bringing the illegals "out of the shadows?" Well they are pushing conservative voters in the shadows. The silent majority, into the shadows.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:21 PM (fceHP)

344
They don't want to just drive Trump out, they want to make it clear that they will destroy anyone who even works with Trump so that there never will be another Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (/tuJf)

Exactly and it's about time PDT makes it clear he will use his Pardon Powers...This is War

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:21 PM (Lg2h/)

345 Ha !!!

Duh ... Duh-Duh-Duh ... Duh-Duh ... Duh-Duh ...

No Barrel Time !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:21 PM (fiGNd)

346 to be told they're right.

I think really that is all it comes down to.

To shut up anyone who dares try to have a voice other than theirs, to get their old job back and the SUX-9000 with the Blaupunkt, and everyone to know their place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:21 PM (39g3+)

347 When I vote I do not look for white smoke coming from a Vatican chimney afterwards.

I know Trump is a horndog with questionable deals in his past. I don't care. Trump is what this country needs RFN. A son-of-a-bitch who will get the job done. He gets it done. So these pearl clutchers can kiss my lily white backside.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at May 03, 2018 05:22 PM (O9qtX)

348 Megyn Kelly, Stormy Daniels... Who's next? Low IQ Crazy Mika?

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2018 05:22 PM (J7XgW)

349 This is nothing but Alinsky tactics being used by NeverTrumpers and Marxists to make those flyover Christians live by their rules. Alinsky doesn't work anymore on many right wingers, which is why we don't give a shit about shaming and name calling tactics.

Posted by: Monk at May 03, 2018 05:22 PM (CtNpS)

350
Over the past year, I have gone from wary acceptance (always thankful he is not Hillary) to full approval of the man.

He is indeed walking the talk.

All the rest is bullshit. Give him 8 years and he WILL take huge strides toward cleansing my beloved country of the utter filth laid on it by the progressive left.

And that shining city on a hill will be visible again.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (S/hVx)

351 Here's my biggest issue.

Yes, Trump is flawed and as you noted most of us knew that. But he was also the best choice, and the man has done more for us in 16 months than some of these so called compassionate conservatives did in 8 years.

Notwithstanding any of that, what's happening now is a subversion of our government. Unelected bureaucrats are undermining our government and trying to bring down the president.

One might want to believe a "conservative" would not only oppose that subversion, but start gathering up rope and buildings by a gallows.

What are the so called never trumpers doing? They are clapping like seals as our government is undermined.

There was a time we called that treason. The nevertrumpers call it "righteous".

Fuck that. They can die in a fire.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (ylDtb)

352 Impeachment.
Maybe. That would be the ideal, (for them). If they were thinking strategically, a wounded, lame Republican President would suit their ultimate goals better. Trump isn't going to stop though. He just won't.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (ty7RM)

353 Impeach him and then......Pence?

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (Enq6K)

354 > When I vote I do not look for white smoke coming from a Vatican chimney afterwards.

Sometimes a horndog evens get that. Case in point: me.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (GXOTw)

355 >>Impeach him and then......Pence?

*Squints*

Posted by: Mike Pence at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (pe3zc)

356 Cory Chase > Stormy Daniels

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (QQ+il)

357 The thing that stuns me is that these people don't understand what Trump has done for us as a people. All these great and mighty institutions they command are, we realize, not only actively evil, but also profoundly stupid and weak. Trump has shown us - we can fight back. Bring him down and there will be Hell to pay.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (fA1SL)

358 Trump is to the American people what Grant was to Lincoln - A guy who fights for us.

Posted by: Archer at May 03, 2018 05:24 PM (gbWkA)

359 Lost a pitcher last night, so they are right on track.

Lots their BEST pitcher, no less. And their stellar relief staff is back to form of sucking and giving up games, too.

Its the Mets, what can you do?
/Chinatown music

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:24 PM (39g3+)

360 340
But to what end? What is their goal??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:16 PM (39g3+)

To crush him, to see him driven before them, and to hear the lamentation of his women.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (fiGNd)

If they want lurid tales -go watch a porn movie. Because frankly, I didn't vote for Trump to be an altar server. I voted for a disruptor - baggage and all.
So if they are dying to hear of Trump spit-roasting some high priced "talent" while we are losing our country -- don't be surprised when November's election results bite them in the ass. Again.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 03, 2018 05:24 PM (jxbfJ)

361 It was 10-12 fucking years ago! Clinton was less than 5 years away from his Whitewater scam and the press backed up the idea that it was "in the past".

I'm not the fucking hypocrite, the whole PUBLISHED left IS!

Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 05:25 PM (vDqXW)

362

Off, adorably soft and furry little sex machines sock.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 03, 2018 05:25 PM (GdWl+)

363 Melania Trump is great, but I had to have Firefox block that ad at the top of the page.

Posted by: Monty James at May 03, 2018 05:25 PM (gKOMX)

364 being used by NeverTrumpers and Marxists to make those flyover Christians live by their rules.

yeah, and there's a huge disconnect there: Christians, at least evangelical Christian's are remarkably tolerant of sinners. "Hate the sin, love the sinner." Progs just don't get this, b/c they never go to church.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2018 05:25 PM (ty7RM)

365 To crush him, to see him driven before them, and to hear the lamentation of his women.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (fiGNd)
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Love wins--because Love Trumps Hate.

Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 05:25 PM (vDqXW)

366 > Trump is to the American people what Grant was to Lincoln - A guy who fights for us.

Yeah, I'm thinking of the story about Lincoln being told that Grant drank heavily. "Find out what brand he drinks and send a case to all my other generals."

Find out what escort service Trump uses and order up some girls for Bitch McConnell and company.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at May 03, 2018 05:25 PM (GXOTw)

367 These people are manipulative shitweasels. If any confused grannies are tempted to drop their support for him, perhaps the best argument would be "Hillary wants to bring in savages to harass your granddaughters and defecate in your swimming pools and get away with it. The President wants to prevent that".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (/qEW2)

368 Caputo's GFM acct. is nearing $105K...they've upped the goal to $125k.

I think I read Rush was talking about it today too...I'm sure that helped.

Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (Enq6K)

369 Yes, she was probably paid a sizable amount for her signature on the original NDA. But then Trump won the nomination and she figured she could increase her pay-off.

No honor among thieves, and apparently none among skanky whores either.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer

__________

Will any high profile person ever trust an NDA after this?

Clearly it's not worth the paper its written on and is always open to a better offer.

My guess is Stormy Daniels will keep her payoff and rake in another cool million.

Part of that is because Trump can't really litigate this as President, but what did they think was going to happen if Trump won? That this whore would never revisit this and maybe ask for more from a billionaire President?

Posted by: Maritime at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (lKmt3)

370 >>Lots their BEST pitcher, no less. And their stellar relief staff is back to form of sucking and giving up games, too.

Nah. They dodged a bullet. Or a Tommy John.

deGrom's MRI came back negative and he will make his next start.

It would be nice if they would start hitting.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

371 I'd add in: They actually are largely open borders as well. Free trade absolutists are very sympathetic to, if not outright supportive of, the idea that just as goods should be free to cross borders unimpeded, so too should labor.

Who were they supporting in the primaries?

Jeb!
Rubio?

Well, there you have it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (fceHP)

372 Yes, Trump is flawed and as you noted most of us knew that. But he was also the best choice, and the man has done more for us in 16 months than some of these so called compassionate conservatives did in 8 years.

Yep. And I think they even know that and that's what hurts and infuriates the most.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (39g3+)

373 He fights.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (QQ+il)

374 Look, I must be one of the few people on earth who believes that Trump didn't f..k Stormy. I believe that she's lying through her teeth and that she isn't "his type."

I think the sketch she had drawn of the man who "threatened" her tells you all you need to know about her veracity.

I also believe that no one listened to the fact that Cohen paid things for Trump to keep scandal away from him as he was persuing the Presidency. That doesn't mean Trump paid him to pay her off because she was telling the truth. Just the threat of her story was enough to derail him.

This entire thing reeks.

Posted by: True the Note at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (HLTe8)

375 What's nuts is that I find Trump to be more candid and honest than not. Like discussing why he didn't go to the WHCD at the rally, I cant ever see a standard politician being that blunt and open.

I think the CRUCIAL thing is that if Trump fibs about anything, he doesn't do so with malice, with the intention of hurting the country the way Obama/Clinton/Bush did. The Nevertrumpers being the fucking fucks of cocksucking fucks that they are, are incapable of making that distinction.

Posted by: Forderick Wonkensteen at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (+dsLj)

376 Trumps former campaign chairman who has been indicted on money laundering and bank fraud charges.

Conservatives need not apply

Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Americans need a defense against wanton prosecution.

Prosecutors, little town and big time can burn through money and bankrupt just about anyone defending themselves.

This must be stopped.
It is obscene
It is immoral
It should be against the law.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:27 PM (QvdcM)

377 Geez, I get the feeling that "republican" never Trumpers want PDJT out of the office more than the democrats.

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 05:27 PM (bUjCl)

378 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:19 PM (ptqGC)

Well, of course your political opinions are antithetical to hers and she doesn't sound like a pleasant person. On the other hand, her friend or other loved one died died and that's not the situation where people are often at their best, as you know. It seems like this is one of your ministries at the church-coordinating the hospitality after a funeral which is an important ministry and one that people appreciate-even if they don't always say that. So you didn't put something in her drink and I imagine if you dealt with her it was in a kindly and compassionate manner.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2018 05:27 PM (tpDAe)

379 If they want lurid tales -go watch a porn movie. Because frankly, I didn't vote for Trump to be an altar server.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 03, 2018 05:24 PM (jxbfJ)

Yeah ... but this show ain't for us. Its for Beltway Republicans - to give them the pretext to support Impeachment.

And if it wasn't Stormy Daniels ... Democrats would just serve up something else. And many Republicans ain't gonna' be too picky.

The House is gonna' be tricky - but I think they've already got the votes in the Senate.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:27 PM (fiGNd)

380 Nah. They dodged a bullet. Or a Tommy John.

deGrom's MRI came back negative and he will make his next start.

It would be nice if they would start hitting.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

Yes and good for you. I really don't hate the Mets that much...but what is up with the coaches and Med Staff letting him go out and pitch the next inning?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:27 PM (Lg2h/)

381 Ace could've saved a lot of time just writing You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded, but there it is.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 03, 2018 05:28 PM (4ErVI)

382 I They don't want to just drive Trump out, they want to make it clear that they will destroy anyone who even works with Trump so that there never will be another Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:20 PM (/tuJf)

Exactly and it's about time PDT makes it clear he will use his Pardon Powers...This is War
Posted by: Nevergiveup

I want to see Trump sack up and start going after people. Is Mueller's mother still alive? Seems she needs an audit from the IRS. The stress was too much and she stroked out and died? Too bad.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 05:28 PM (dhqL5)

383 Progs just don't get this, b/c they never go to church.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2018 05:25 PM (ty7RM)
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I can't count the number of times a social prog has told me either: 1) what business of mine is it to HATE someone else's sin? or 2) when they pronounce their righteous judgment they should hate the sinner right along with the sin--that it's impossible to do both.

Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 05:28 PM (vDqXW)

384 There was a time we called that treason.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (ylDtb)

Democrats: proud to oppose the peaceful transition of executive power since 1860.

Posted by: Sjg at May 03, 2018 05:28 PM (gDSJf)

385 Just try and imagine a deep state blocking Obama and his party. Bush holdovers.

It is beyond imagining. They fight with every fiber of their bodies, while all we can raise is talk of "comity."

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 03, 2018 05:28 PM (xOga2)

386 356 Cory Chase > Stormy Daniels
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (QQ+il)

Liked!

Posted by: Teh Zodiac Killer at May 03, 2018 05:28 PM (CtNpS)

387 >>It would be nice if they would start hitting.

Matt Harvey is hitting...

Rock Bottom.

Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2018 05:28 PM (pe3zc)

388 398th...and I read the content!

Posted by: DanMan at May 03, 2018 05:29 PM (XTiHL)

389 356 Oh yah,if Trump banged her my esteem for him goes up....

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2018 05:29 PM (LiyEm)

390 >>Yes and good for you. I really don't hate the Mets that much...but what is up with the coaches and Med Staff letting him go out and pitch the next inning?

The Mets have had an issue with keeping their players, and mainly their pitchers, healthy one rate last decade plus.

It's unreal this goes on year after year.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:29 PM (/tuJf)

391 so, I've been busy with life and living under a rock recently, but did trump admit he banged the porn star, or are we still just inferring he did based on an alleged pay off?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 03, 2018 05:29 PM (F5+ro)

392 Geez, I get the feeling that "republican" never Trumpers want PDJT out of the office more than the democrats.

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 05:27 PM (bUjCl)
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The whole new evolution of having a spine bothers them.

Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 05:29 PM (vDqXW)

393 The man was on his third wife. There was not a single soul that did not know that Trump was an adulterer when that soul voted for him. Happily. Gleefully.

FOAD NTs.

Posted by: Corned Beef and Chlorine at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (EracK)

394 one rate?

over

I've got to stop multi-tasking. I clearly suck at it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (/tuJf)

395 The thing that makes me think he didn't do Daniels is him being a germaphobe AND him saying his Vietnam in the 80s was avoiding STDs.

OK, if you're a germaphobe and STDs are on your mind ARE YOU GOING TO FUCK STORMY WITHOUT HER BEING TESTED?

And she never mentions that.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (QvdcM)

396 356 Cory Chase > Stormy Daniels
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 03, 2018 05:23 PM (QQ+il)

Looking for a job with Ted Cruz are we?

Posted by: buzzion at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (lKs2v)

397 http://bit.ly/2JT3Fv1
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Dershowitz: Mueller Has No Case Against Trump for Obstruction of Justice (VIDEO) - True Pundit

Posted by: JoshBarroquette at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (y3aQB)

398 Will any high profile person ever trust an NDA after this?

Its pretty obvious an NDA isn't worth a damn thing now so I would never, ever have anyone sign one.

deGrom's MRI came back negative and he will make his next start.

That's good news at least.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (39g3+)

399 so, I've been busy with life and living under a rock recently, but did trump admit he banged the porn star, or are we still just inferring he did based on an alleged pay off?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 03, 2018 05:29 PM (F5+ro)

I ask also.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (QQ+il)

400 Trump has shown us - we can fight back.

OVERTON WINDOW, NOT THE HILL TO DIE ON, TOO MUCH POLITICAL CAPITAL REQUIRED, TIMING IS BAD, GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!

Posted by: GOPe at May 03, 2018 05:31 PM (iv0p7)

401 The Neocon plan for America is quite sensible, really.

Bring in cheap third world labor to replace the white working class (and their votes). They're basically Nazis, anyway, and we should sell them our books lecturing them not to get all tribal and nationalistic and uppity on us. Their communities deserve to die.

De-industrialize the American heartland by imposing free trade with a global governing structure. Move their factories abroad by the tens of thousands.

Turn America into a weak, agricultural, pastoral land that exports crops and raw materials. Eventually it will be divided up into sections and separated.

Oh wait, did I say America? I meant Germany. That's my plan for Germany.

Posted by: The Ghost of Henry Morgenthau, Jr. at May 03, 2018 05:31 PM (DuAZ5)

402 Checking Bing images, I can say that I can think of any number of porn stars I'd find far hotter than cookie-cutter plastic blond Stormy Daniels.

And it turns out she's an untrustworthy whore as well.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 05:31 PM (oVJmc)

403 "Afterall, they can't have Christians running off the plantation."

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I wish I could say that they want us to remain on the Republican plantation, it's much worse than that. They want us on the Democrats plantation so that they can then go there as well and say they reflect the public sentiment.

These are deeply dishonest people who have a nerve pointing out other people's inconsistency, not even dishonesty.

Posted by: Decaf at May 03, 2018 05:31 PM (/3+Sg)

404 I've been busy with life and living under a rock recently, but did trump admit he banged the porn star, or are we still just inferring he did based on an alleged pay off?

*****************

Check his Twitter, he continues to deny it and stated the agreement was akin to a sworn affidavit that Stormy did not in fact engage in schadenboningfreusels with him, and she signed it to that effect, and that his payment to Cohen was a legal retainer, not a compensation for the hush money.

Then he capped it off by more or less saying he will now counter sue the fuck out of Stormy to recover damages.

Posted by: Forderick Wonkensteen at May 03, 2018 05:31 PM (+dsLj)

405 Well, I didn't vote happily or gleefully for him because he was an adulterer. I happily voted for him because he wasn't Hillary Clinton and I believed that he-unlike Obama-really does love America and wants to make it better.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2018 05:32 PM (tpDAe)

406 The man was on his third wife. There was not a single soul that did not know that Trump was an adulterer when that soul voted for him. Happily. Gleefully.

FOAD NTs.
Posted by: Corned Beef and Chlorine at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (EracK)
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He was a total adulterer by Jesus' standards, anyway--but so was Ronnie, and so was Newt.

Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 05:32 PM (vDqXW)

407 The whole new evolution of having a spine bothers them.
Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 05:29 PM (vDqXW)

Yeah, having a spine is against their interests.

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 05:32 PM (bUjCl)

408 One thing about this isn't quite accurate. NR, anyway, was largely censorious about Clinton's sex life, too. Of course, that was almost 20 years ago, so the current crop were mere subalterns then. And of course, NR then was still what it had always been, a forum for very various views. Not true today, when the kiddies have taken over.

(IMO, Lowry killed the magazine. I stopped subscribing when Florence King retired. God, I wish she were around to write about today's politics. She'd be scathing about both Trump and NeverTrump. I'd love to see her let go on the SJWs, in their current condition.)

Posted by: George LeS at May 03, 2018 05:32 PM (/ki+X)

409 368 Caputo's GFM acct. is nearing $105K...they've upped the goal to $125k.

I think I read Rush was talking about it today too...I'm sure that helped.
Posted by: Tami at May 03, 2018 05:26 PM (Enq6K)

I'm surprised GoFundMe hasn't pulled it yet with their typical bullshit excuse, while continuing to allow McCabe's to stay up.

Posted by: buzzion at May 03, 2018 05:32 PM (lKs2v)

410 The only thing that I consider to be "good" about the NeverTrumpers is that they appear to be a astonishingly small portion of the actual voting population. I don't know anyone in my day to day life who thinks that way, or who even knows who these people are. If they did know about them, they would just shrug and say "what a pack of idiots".

They get a lot of attention because they are all the Ivy League types and they get a lot of attention because they're mostly well known in east coast political commentary circles - but that is an infinitesimally small part of the electorate, and one that actually has almost no influence at all in any of the states that voted for Trump.

So they cheer fake polls, and get quoted in the NYT, and act like they're some big influential bunch of hoo ha's, but in reality - they're really nothing at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 05:33 PM (k1TUh)

411 After this Stormy thing is over Mueller will need to start over looking for other 'crimes'

Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2018 05:33 PM (aC6Sd)

412 oh...and I agree with the content btw

Posted by: DanMan at May 03, 2018 05:34 PM (XTiHL)

413 Check his Twitter, he continues to deny it and stated the agreement was akin to a sworn affidavit that Stormy did not in fact engage in schadenboningfreusels with him, and she signed it to that effect, and that his payment to Cohen was a legal retainer, not a compensation for the hush money.

Then he capped it off by more or less saying he will now counter sue the fuck out of Stormy to recover damages.
Posted by: Forderick Wonkensteen at May 03, 2018 05:31 PM (+dsLj)

Okay, so then it's kind of like how one day everyone just decided that the Russians hacked the DNC, without any proof or real reason to believe that beyond an allegation by one person?

I find it so odd how this like shift happens.

It's not really a gradual overton window shift, its a sudden, jarring shift.

Either way, Trump probably did bang the porn star -- but I don't know why we're believing it based on third hand rumors of pay offs (and, of course, the young lady's word for it)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 03, 2018 05:34 PM (F5+ro)

414 After this Stormy thing is over Mueller will need to start over looking for other 'crimes'
Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2018 05:33 PM (aC6Sd

I hear PDT does not replace his divets

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:34 PM (Lg2h/)

415 I get the feeling that "republican" never Trumpers want PDJT out of the office more than the democrats.

Given that they complain about Trump about 8 times for every once they did about Obama or any other Democrat, yeah that's kinda obvious. The problem for them is that Trump represents a direct threat to their power and esteem, their positions as voices of the party and advisors. Democrats don't do that. They're the opposition but not the real enemy. The Tea Party movement and those damn voters are the real enemy.

The Mets have had an issue with keeping their players, and mainly their pitchers, healthy

Yeah but they fired all their trainers and conditioning guys and got a new team, hopefully ones that are less worthless and can actually do their job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:34 PM (39g3+)

416 I've got to stop multi-tasking. I clearly suck at it.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 05:30 PM (/tuJf)

heh, I've been making a salad.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:34 PM (fceHP)

417 413. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at May 03, 2018 05:35 PM (fA1SL)

418 After this Stormy thing is over Mueller will need to start over looking for other 'crimes'

==

Unless his Russian handlers decide to bring Mueller aka Matryoshka home.

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 05:35 PM (bUjCl)

419

I'm surprised GoFundMe hasn't pulled it yet with their typical bullshit excuse, while continuing to allow McCabe's to stay up.

Caputo hasn't been accused of anything.

They will have to torture reason extensively to come up with a new rationale.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 05:35 PM (oVJmc)

420 heh, I've been making a salad.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:34 PM (fceHP)

I love tossed salad !!!

Posted by: Allison Williams at May 03, 2018 05:35 PM (fiGNd)

421 Find out what brand he drinks and send a case to all my other generals.

Posted by: amy schumer at May 03, 2018 05:36 PM (VBKy9)

422 Is Mueller's mother still alive? Seems she needs an audit from the IRS.

If Trump pulled the wink wink nod nod "I wonder if there's more to X's finances that an audit would discover" Obama and gang did, the world would implode.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 05:36 PM (iv0p7)

423 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2018 05:32 PM (tpDAe)

spot on

Posted by: DanMan at May 03, 2018 05:36 PM (XTiHL)

424 The Mets have had an issue with keeping their players, and mainly their pitchers, healthy

Yeah but they fired all their trainers and conditioning guys and got a new team, hopefully ones that are less worthless and can actually do their job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:34 PM (39g3+)

LOL apaprently not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:36 PM (Lg2h/)

425 410 The only thing that I consider to be "good" about the NeverTrumpers is that they appear to be a astonishingly small portion of the actual voting population. I don't know anyone in my day to day life who thinks that way, or who even knows who these people are. If they did know about them, they would just shrug and say "what a pack of idiots".

They get a lot of attention because they are all the Ivy League types and they get a lot of attention because they're mostly well known in east coast political commentary circles - but that is an infinitesimally small part of the electorate, and one that actually has almost no influence at all in any of the states that voted for Trump.

So they cheer fake polls, and get quoted in the NYT, and act like they're some big influential bunch of hoo ha's, but in reality - they're really nothing at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 05:33 PM (k1TUh)

Well yeah. The thing about the NeverTrumpers is that they are the ones that have been at the helm of the Republican Party for decades. They've coalesced into a name with NeverTrump but they were just as equally invested in snuffing out/neutering other attempts to get them out of the drivers seat like the Tea Party.

Posted by: buzzion at May 03, 2018 05:36 PM (lKs2v)

426 I think there is an aspect that Ace didn't cover. I'm guessing some NT think of Republicanism as a brand with an image. They work really hard to buff and polish the brand with an image they would like to be associated with. They defend it from attacks from the other side. Then along comes a man who doesn't really fit the brand, and steals it while confirming some of the flaws the opponents lobbed (in their minds). When that was threatened, they would rather keep the image intact than win. I guess they think it would be a long-game win.

Most of us think of politics as a big compromise, and keep some distance between our person and the party, or at least understand there are different legs on the party stool, but I'm not sure the NT do.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2018 05:36 PM (rwaEp)

427
Well, of course your political opinions are
antithetical to hers and she doesn't sound like a pleasant person. On
the other hand, her friend or other loved one died died and that's not
the situation where people are often at their best, as you know. It
seems like this is one of your ministries at the church-coordinating the
hospitality after a funeral which is an important ministry and one that
people appreciate-even if they don't always say that. So you didn't put
something in her drink and I imagine if you dealt with her it was in a
kindly and compassionate manner.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2018 05:27 PM (tpDAe)

I'm extremely tired and have had a terrible week.

The deceased and none of his family are or ever were members of our church. We gave them a lovely funeral and reception (and the reception didn't cost them a penny, but was donated by myself and others).

Sorry if I'm in "a mood" when I see a woman who has been extremely nasty to me and others over several years enjoying the food and drink we put out. And sorry my words, due to exhaustion, offended you. I've already asked my Maker for forgiveness.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (ptqGC)

428 So they cheer fake polls, and get quoted in the NYT, and act like they're some big influential bunch of hoo ha's, but in reality - they're really nothing at all.

*******************

Twitter is the worst fucking invention on Earth (save Trump). It makes the mob seem 1000000x bigger than they actually are, like going after the poor teenage girl for wearing a dress. A poll was done and 95% said there was nothing wrong with that. And yet that 5% extreme minority on twitter seems like the whole world is after you.

Posted by: Forderick Wonkensteen at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (+dsLj)

429 Harry check Trump's tweet today on the subject. He says she admitted the contrary - no affair - as part of the settlement. None of us know. Yet most seem to just assume it's true.

Wonkensteen reminded me of something else about Trump that is quite interesting. He is, in fact, the most open and candid president we've had in my lifetime. By far.

This of course is a big reason he connected with this voters, and why that connection has strengthened. He rarely parsed his words (quite the contrary), which many voters (correctly) interpreted as what he really thinks, and to their delight it turned out to be what he is actually trying to do.

Stand to be corrected, but I can't think of any president or other major political figure in my lifetime who has stated his positions so clearly, and then stuck with them/pursued them so vigorously and directly.

It's funny, and ironic. As a loud-mouthed Queens real estate developer/marketing guy, of course he's considered a "bulls***ter". Sort of just a cultural assumption. And he hasn't lost all his promotional instincts - he still exaggerates sometimes, and loves his superlatives.

But when it comes to delivering, on vital national policies, while in the highest office in the land - he's infinitely more sincere and candid than almost anyone else in politics.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (QDnY+)

430 he thing about the NeverTrumpers is that they are the ones that have been at the helm of the Republican Party for decades. They've coalesced into a name with NeverTrump but they were just as equally invested in snuffing out/neutering other attempts to get them out of the drivers seat like the Tea Party.
Posted by: buzzion at May 03, 2018 05:36 PM (lKs2v)

They are the uber RINOs of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (Lg2h/)

431 I'm out for a while.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (ptqGC)

432 414 After this Stormy thing is over Mueller will need to start over looking for other 'crimes'
Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2018 05:33 PM (aC6Sd

I hear PDT does not replace his divets
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:34 PM (Lg2h/)

Uses more than one mulligan per hole.

Posted by: buzzion at May 03, 2018 05:38 PM (lKs2v)

433 No one knows how he's going to foul them all (#293 (QvdcM) ) but I bask in awe at the light of his finesse.

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:38 PM (QvdcM)

434 I'm surprised GoFundMe hasn't pulled it yet with their typical bullshit excuse

I am surprised as well. They are run by evil people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:38 PM (39g3+)

435 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (ptqGC)

It didn't offend me, Jane. You have mentioned you're really tired, you're worried about your beloved cat and you've mentioned you need a vacation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2018 05:38 PM (tpDAe)

436 The neverTrumpers were rooting for Hillary to not only beat Trump but to stomp him in a landslide. This was to be the excuse to purge "their" party, the GOP, of the deplorables.

Shockingly to them, it didn't work out that way and they are still clueless and outraged as to why. They don't know what to do at this point, so the only thing they can think of is to continue their efforts to disgrace Trump, and by extension his supporters, so that they can have "their" party back.

Posted by: cool breeze at May 03, 2018 05:38 PM (UGKMd)

437 Even putting aside the perjury, I STILL object to Billy Clintons affair with Monica, not because of the morality immorality issue. I object to it because he was given a pass for doing what in anyone else would be grounds for summary dismissal: he banged an employee who reported to him.

You don't get to say "Oh, well, we know he was a shit." here. She was many years his junior, and an employee, who reported to him. As long as that a guy is in MY employ, I hold him to the same professional standards as I will be held to. There is no good reason to institutionalize double standards. It is socially corrosive, to say the least.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 03, 2018 05:39 PM (CPk08)

438 391 so, I've been busy with life and living under a rock recently, but did trump admit he banged the porn star, or are we still just inferring he did based on an alleged pay off?

just assume he did and stay busy with life

Posted by: DanMan at May 03, 2018 05:39 PM (XTiHL)

439 I'm out for a while.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (ptqGC)

Later.

That was a stand-up thing you did ... even if that bitch deserved a good back-hand to the chops.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:39 PM (fiGNd)

440
Find out what brand he drinks and send a case to all my other generals.

Posted by: amy schumer at May 03, 2018 05:36 PM (VBKy9)

Actually it was a barrel whiskey

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 03, 2018 05:39 PM (10vO4)

441 It's always about the sex.

Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2018 05:39 PM (Pg7Qj)

442 Is there in principle more important then hating Trump? It reminds me of the unreasonably high level of vitriol the left has for Sarah Palin. Its all about hating their voters. In their mind the working and middle classes should never be allowed to be empowered. Their voices need filtered by representatives of the "smart set". Before Trump we lost every single engagement in the culture war because actually standing up for principles was beneath them.

Posted by: Drew in MO at May 03, 2018 05:39 PM (cGlgB)

443 >>122 Wow, what's up Cavuto's ass?

He's always been a whiny little bitch.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 05:40 PM (r9UYA)

444 Another thing that the Never-Trumper's don't get, as to why almost no one cares about these Trump stories...

Do they really think any of us believe that there is even One Single Politician in either party who has a shred of Moral Dignity, a single member of Congress or Senator who wouldn't sell us all out at the drop of a hat if he or she could personally profit by it? A single Federal Judge who isn't hopelessly corrupt and who is willing to slant the law to come up with whatever ruling he a) likes or b) was paid to produce?

Sure, I'll admit Trump has weak morals. And I'll say that even given that, he still has more morals than anybody ELSE in the Federal Govm't these days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 05:40 PM (k1TUh)

445 Either way, Trump probably did bang the porn star -- but I don't know why we're believing it based on third hand rumors of pay offs (and, of course, the young lady's word for it)

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Exactly, I'm as pro-Trump as his own family, but even I will accept that he MIGHT have banged the old milk bag, but again it's her word against his, so in the absence of a blue dress, why are we accepting this as fact?

Even worse, the more she tells her story, the more holes there are in it, including the bullshit story of a man who just happens to look like her ex threatening her.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 03, 2018 05:40 PM (+dsLj)

446 Right on. I was a Never Trumper until after the Indiana Primary. I then realized I was a Never Hillary person. I had moved to Arkansas in 1977. I had been governed by the Clintons in some manner for 24 years. I was not going to agree to any more years. What a God awful woman Hillary was and is. I can only believe Providence took a stand in this election.

Where are the 30,000 e-mails? Talk about Dishonesty! Give me a break

Posted by: Arkansas Yankee at May 03, 2018 05:40 PM (m/1QV)

447 436 Yes,I remember our HQ NeverTrumpers saying they would come back to laugh at us and say "I told ya so" after Hillary won in a landslide...

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2018 05:40 PM (LiyEm)

448 We're supposed to care about aggressive dishonesty now that death panels are shown to be true, Joe the Plumber has been destroyed because of the way a candidate answered a question, and Obama "evolved" on gay marriage in four years.

Oh yeah, and all those times the (D) SCOTUS f*ckers recused themselves on Obamacare and gay marriage.

But NOW we're against aggressive dishonesty.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 05:41 PM (VgKNm)

449 I'll just assume he peed on her with Bill Clinton watching, and move on

Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2018 05:41 PM (Pg7Qj)

450 NBC is now saying Cohen wasn't wiretapped. They were looking at call logs or something, but not listening.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 05:41 PM (iv0p7)

451 Also for all of the complaining done, competent people aren't lining up out of the woodwork to run for office.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2018 05:41 PM (rwaEp)

452 If Michael Flynn is exonerated (as I hope he will be) a GoFundMe can be set up for him? I hope?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2018 05:41 PM (3dsTO)

453 #boredwiththewhore

Posted by: Regular joe at May 03, 2018 05:41 PM (7PllL)

454 Sure, I'll admit Trump has weak morals. And I'll say that even given that, he still has more morals than anybody ELSE in the Federal Govm't these days.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 05:40 PM (k1TUh)

That pretty well sums it up, right there.

Posted by: filbert at May 03, 2018 05:42 PM (953wK)

455 Nood - lolcow comey

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at May 03, 2018 05:42 PM (fA1SL)

456 Nood douche.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 03, 2018 05:42 PM (Dp6qK)

457 LOL apaprently not

Well the problem is that they don't have x-ray vision and pitchers hate to come out or admit any weakness. So if the pitcher says "my arm is kinda buggin me" the trainer looks, and sees nothing obvious like a compound fracture or bleeding. He says "you think you can keep going?" and there are few pitchers on earth who will say "no" there. They'll all figure they have another inning in them or more.

I mean, Dave Dravecki pitched until he broke his own freaking arm despite being riddled with cancer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2018 05:42 PM (39g3+)

458 437 Even putting aside the perjury, I STILL object to Billy Clintons affair with Monica, not because of the morality immorality issue. I object to it because he was given a pass for doing what in anyone else would be grounds for summary dismissal: he banged an employee who reported to him.

You don't get to say "Oh, well, we know he was a shit." here. She was many years his junior, and an employee, who reported to him. As long as that a guy is in MY employ, I hold him to the same professional standards as I will be held to. There is no good reason to institutionalize double standards. It is socially corrosive, to say the least.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 03, 2018 05:39 PM (CPk0

Yeah, this has always bothered me.

Any one of us would be fired from a job (and rightly so) for doing exactly what Bill was doing.

You can't shlup the intern when youre the CEO in pretty much any office environment without getting fired.

It also destroys morale of everyone else in the office, since it gives the impression that sleeping with the boss may be the way for advancement, not working hard.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 03, 2018 05:42 PM (F5+ro)

459 "And before it's over he's going to fuck Mueller, and he's going to fuck Comey, and he's going to fuck the whole fetid lot of them. And if we're lucky he's going to fuck McConnell, his wife, and that rotting bunch bunch in the senate. And do the same for the house."

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Oh, I hope so. Bring back Conan the Barbarian, I'm done with the wokesters on our side.

Posted by: Decaf at May 03, 2018 05:42 PM (/3+Sg)

460 If I was a Senator, and High Quality Snatch was constantly thrown at me ... I'd partake.

Or even Mid-Grade Poon. I'm sure I'm hoover that up, if I thought I could get away with it.

I mean really, K-Mart Blue Light Special Tail ? Yeah ... like I haven't before.

OK ... so Expired Kinda' Sketchy Gash ? Well ... I dunno'. Cute dress ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:42 PM (fiGNd)

461 NBC is now saying Cohen wasn't wiretapped. They were looking at call logs or something, but not listening.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 05:41 PM (iv0p7)

Not listening or not taping?

Still stinks to high heaven

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:43 PM (Lg2h/)

462 Another thing that the Never-Trumper's don't get, as to why almost no one cares about these Trump stories...

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 05:40 PM (k1TUh)
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Poophat even thinks it bears out Trump's hyperbole about shooting somebody in broad daylight. You know, because who can tell the difference from murder and not being forward with the truth?

Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 05:43 PM (vDqXW)

463 Harry check Trump's tweet today on the subject. He says she admitted the contrary - no affair - as part of the settlement. None of us know. Yet most seem to just assume it's true.Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (QDnY+)

That is the crux right there. She has signed multiple statements saying Der Trumpenfuhrer had not bagged that game. She signed an NDA and accepted money to go away.

So now she says he did bag that gamey thang, and wants more money.

Was she lying then or is she lying now? In either circumstance, she is a lying whore. So why is ANY credence given her by the MSM?

Because they want to undo November 8 2016. That makes it an attempted coup. One way helicopter rides for the lot of them.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at May 03, 2018 05:43 PM (O9qtX)

464 It turns out Guy Benson really hasn't reformed from being a dick, after all.

Trump's a billionaire. People make accusations to get money. Is it impossible? No. But the idea that we should simply believe a porn star who already violated an agreement (in other words, "she lied"), well like I said - he's a dick.

Nobody really knows; nobody - except maybe Mrs. Trump - really cares.

If you're in the news/commentary business, and you don't have any facts, professing your BELIEF reflects poorly on you.

Isn't HE the guy who's going to have a new show, with co-star Harf (the serial liar)? I suppose he thinks he's the new Hannity now. He just isn't.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 03, 2018 05:43 PM (EnK/R)

465 NBC is now saying Cohen wasn't wiretapped. They were looking at call logs or something, but not listening.

Posted by: bonhomme
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You mean with a wire? You're not talking about sharking or using a faux micro tower to pick up signal. Right?

Posted by: gNewt at May 03, 2018 05:43 PM (QvdcM)

466 I have a problem with people who renege on contacts. If you agree to a settlement and sign a non- disclosure/confidentiality agreement and then go out and spill the beans. why settle with anyone anymore?
You should be sued & have to give the money back.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 03, 2018 05:44 PM (PvFoN)

467 Exactly, I'm as pro-Trump as his own family, but even I will accept that he MIGHT have banged the old milk bag, but again it's her word against his, so in the absence of a blue dress, why are we accepting this as fact?

Weren't there stories circulating saying Daniels did actually have a stained blue dress? Whatever happened to that?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 05:44 PM (iv0p7)

468 Re: RESIST

Those stickers are useful as hell, btw. If you see one, notice any campaign stickers on the car and remember that the candidate hates you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 05:44 PM (VgKNm)

469 And by whore I mean these cucks.

Posted by: Regular joe at May 03, 2018 05:44 PM (7PllL)

470 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2018 05:37 PM (ptqGC)

Sorry to hear.

She sounds like a person that one could accidentally trip while she's walking buy. Accidentally.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:45 PM (fceHP)

471
Then he capped it off by more or less saying he will now counter sue the fuck out of Stormy to recover damages.
_____________________

I hope he bankrupts her.

I don't know if Trump banged her or not (he still denies it), and I don't care. What I do know is that she has lied, repeatedly, and violated her agreement to stay quiet about what, if anything, happened between them.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 03, 2018 05:45 PM (fqUgw)

472
But NOW we're against aggressive dishonesty.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 05:41 PM (VgKNm)

Yeah, remember when the media just shrugged it's narrow shoulders after Harry Reid declared he lied about Mittens not paying any taxes but it worked.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 03, 2018 05:45 PM (10vO4)

473 Exactly, I'm as pro-Trump as his own family, but even I will accept that he MIGHT have banged the old milk bag, but again it's her word against his, so in the absence of a blue dress, why are we accepting this as fact?

But who gives a shit? It is not illegal to bang outside of marriage----well unless your in The Military. And apparently it is tots OK in the FBI

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 05:45 PM (Lg2h/)

474 Open borders = no borders = no country.

Posted by: josephistan at May 03, 2018 05:45 PM (ANIFC)

475 >>Weren't there stories circulating saying Daniels did actually have a stained blue dress? Whatever happened to that?
Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 05:44 PM (iv0p7)

The semen of multitudes.

Posted by: Caliban at May 03, 2018 05:45 PM (QE8X6)

476 She sounds like a person that one could accidentally trip while she's walking buy. Accidentally.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 05:45 PM (fceHP)

It would be awful if Jane then accidentally tripped and went knee-first into the back of the bitch's neck.

Horrible.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2018 05:46 PM (fiGNd)

477 NOOD Comey da Clown

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2018 05:46 PM (3dsTO)

478 And he hasn't lost all his promotional instincts - he still exaggerates sometimes, and loves his superlatives.

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That's second nature to him due to his real estate wheeling and dealing, which is why it was so instructive to read his book Art of the Deal. In it he talks of what he describes as truthful hyperbole, useful to help close deals. So instead of saying this deal will benefit you, he'll say, this is the best deal you'll ever get, you'll never find a better deal than this, it will be tremendous, tremendous, totally great deal, nobody can offer a deal like I can offer a deal, believe me.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 03, 2018 05:46 PM (+dsLj)

479 Weren't there stories circulating saying Daniels did actually have a stained blue dress? Whatever happened to that?

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Im seriously doubt Stormy ever wore a dress.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 03, 2018 05:48 PM (+dsLj)

480 Hey guys where's my $130,000!!

I had a sizzling session of sweaty monkey sex with Guy Benson!

What, you don't believe me?

Well, would ya believe a re-enactment of the Kama Sutra by me and Eric Ericsson in a cozy 2-person hot tub?

No?

How about me with Captain Bill Kristol as my human dildo in the poop deck?

Ding, ding, that's a winner!

Posted by: Rainy Spaniels, busty syphilitic crack whore extraordinaire at May 03, 2018 05:49 PM (DuAZ5)

481 You all always crack me up but I never like to miss a sex thread.....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 03, 2018 05:51 PM (aljs9)

482 Trump talks a big game but he also fights and that what matters. The people who hate Trump have spend the last 20 + years talking a big game but never fighting. We have lost every major fight in the culture war because of these assholes, so fuck them.

Posted by: Drew in MO at May 03, 2018 05:51 PM (cGlgB)

483 Ace: "Wrong. We almost all agree that Trump is, was, and will always be deeply flawed."

And his flaws are considerably less impactful on my life that than the flaws possessed by any other presidential candidate for which I've had a chance to vote.

And Trump, BTW, has good characteristics that far outshine the compromised, bought cesspool of insiders that have been the only option I had ever been previously presented. Given the circumstances of Washington and the Glitteratti, Trump is a Saint.

It's funny getting lectured to by the likes of these NeverTrumpers on How Best To Get Things Done when they haven't done sh*t but flap their gums, record some notes, and take boat trips.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 03, 2018 05:53 PM (H8S+R)

484 Trump's flaws could not cancel out his positives and the defects of his opponents were greater. Trump kept beating Republican candidates in the primary and Hillary to critical positions on trade, immigration, foreign policy, internationalism vs. nationalism.

The response from the other candidates would be to half heartily follow, outright say it was wrong, or claim Trump was lying without offering anything of their own on the subject.

Maybe Trump is an idiot, but he won because all of his opponents kept getting outmaneuvered by him politically. If you are getting outmaneuvered by someone that is "stupid novice" what does that say about the quality of the political establishment in this country?

If you want to beat someone you first have to make a accurate assessment of of strengths and weaknesses. Everyone seemed to figure out Trump's weaknesses, and never gave much thought to his strengths. Hence Hillary never set foot in Wisconsin...

Posted by: William Eaton at May 03, 2018 05:55 PM (MuTTO)

485 Several weeks before the campaign, ace, you wrote that if Clinton won you would become a Democrat and keep your head down. Many of us got it. Unless someone deliberately chose to be a dissident, it would have been the only rational choice. Recent events prove as much, and even without a police state-type commissar at the helm our government continues to slide toward totalitarianism. Maybe that can be stopped, but probably not.

The Never Trumpers decided some time back our descent into authoritarianism--if they even honestly opposed it--was inevitable and they chose the path of least resistance. The congressional cucks came to the same conclusion as well. None ever will admit it but "Never Trump" was a fig leaf for a surrender that happened long ago.

From a policy standpoint, your friend absolutely is right. While they lie to their respective bases about it, the Democrats and Republicans reached a consensus some time ago that end-of-history neoliberalism, and the attendant open borders and globalism, were inevitable and permanent. Hillary represented that endpoint and Trump was a departure from it, however long that lasts (it's why he historically will be the most important president of our lifetimes).

Finally, the erosion of our civil liberties continues unabated. I find it almost poignant that some in the comments above continue to believe no search warrant would issue without probable cause. That train left the station long ago, and now the destruction of attorney-client privilege begins in earnest.

I still think Trump will survive, and always will be indebted to him for the courage he has shown and never will believe anyone else who sought the nomination would have endured unless they submitted completely to the Deep State and its enforcers. The United States as a democratic entity is another matter. It's hard to put the totalitarian genie back into the bottle and government surveillance and lawlessness probably will grow until either we get the preferred solution of a national divorce or the more likely one of violent upheaval and division. Trump was the last change to avoid either and like most long shots it apparently will come up short. He'll finish his term, and likely be re-elected, but what follows will not dissent in any discernible way from Deep State orthodoxy. That cannot hold, and Never Trumpers chose sides long ago in anticipation of the aftermath.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 03, 2018 06:00 PM (qROhQ)

486 Is it true Gabe Malor sucks cock and takes it in the ass? I'd like to verify that in person.

Posted by: James Comey at May 03, 2018 06:02 PM (uCmdr)

487 I keep seeing this "deeply flawed" characterization.

To my knowledge his character flaws have been:
(1) Cheating on his wives with some hotty when he was younger.
(2) Anything I see them put here doesn't generally amount to anything, if it isn't outright FakeNews.

If anything, he's pro-American, and has a strong sense of justice - he makes sure to reward people who have done great things for him. And he went to great expense, and a vast amount of trouble to get our country back on the rails.

They complain about him being blunt, but I'll take that over some slick-talking politician blowing smoke up my ass ANY day.

They say he constantly lies, but HE'S the one working hard to fulfill his campaign promises, and his success at that has been remarkable.

"Deeply flawed"? I must be missing something, 'cause those thing are super important, and he's been a LOT more virtuous in those areas than any other national politician. I'd say it's rather the opposite.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 03, 2018 06:08 PM (EnK/R)

488 I forgot to add that Trump is also recognized as a great father, and while he had a fatal flaw as a husband, he apparently has been a great EX-husband - his ex-wife literally endorsed him!!

Posted by: Optimizer at May 03, 2018 06:10 PM (EnK/R)

489 These preening NeverTrump clowns are as much an embodiment of our civilizational decline as the worst degenerates on the Left. The only thing their "principles" have accomplished is to lose within two generations what better men spent two millennia building.

We're in a war for the survival of Western civilization, and behind their moral vanity and sanctimony these people are just cowards. Born losers who backstab their own side and grovel to their enemies. At least Trump, for all his faults, has the guts to fight, which in a war is ultimately what matters.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at May 03, 2018 06:13 PM (Z0/+C)

490 Luv it when gay guys have a problem wid sex

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 06:15 PM (Ymy4N)

491 That Hayes putz is going down with the ship

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 06:17 PM (Ymy4N)

492 NBC's furious backpedaling on the telephone wiretap story indicates the Special Counsel is not pleased. Cohen's phone calls probably were tapped without the convenience of a warrant and someone inadvertently let the grabbed pussy out of the bag.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 03, 2018 06:19 PM (qROhQ)

493 Poor #NeverTrumpers.

They used to be important. Now they are reduced to being pseudo-Republican Pomeranians, circling and yipping, trying to bite President Trump's ankles.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 03, 2018 06:22 PM (T09ml)

494 They spent 20 years telling us "It's only sex." Now it's a big deal?

I didn't care then and I don't care now.

Let them call us hypocrites. They made the rules, we are now playing by them.

HOWEVER, they've changed the rules again by weaponizing the federal government against the deplorables.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at May 03, 2018 06:27 PM (56GKt)

495 Adultery:
* serious enough to halt the implementation of conservative policies (by Trump)
* NOT QUITE serious enough to halt the implementation of liberal policies (by Clinton)

Posted by: mphl at May 03, 2018 06:36 PM (SNJsw)

496 Caring about possible post presidency infidelity with a pron star never fed a hungry child.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue Tarasque Enthusiast at May 03, 2018 06:38 PM (BRpqW)

497 er *pre presidency

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue Tarasque Enthusiast at May 03, 2018 06:38 PM (BRpqW)

498 491 That Hayes putz is going down with the ship

Ahoy matey!

Posted by: B. Kristol Oh Captain my Captain at May 03, 2018 06:40 PM (BRpqW)

499 Ask Steven Hayes if he still thinks Saddam was behind 9/11. How is his book on that selling by the way?

Posted by: jihadi at May 03, 2018 06:55 PM (blf2l)

500 Clinton's sex was impeachable by itself. Trump was a dozen years ago. Bill was ditching Secret Service and putting himself at risk of being setup by Putin. Also, getting oral while talking to a Congressman about the military who are fighting in Yugoslavia, impeachment material right there.

Posted by: MikeN at May 03, 2018 08:08 PM (o/eHL)

501 Very well done Ace. Nothing really to add-- On Target.

Posted by: Alamo at May 03, 2018 08:57 PM (5GtVW)

502 Well, nothing to add rather than I have an overwhelming compulsion to punch any one of these limp-wristed effete pansies right in the mouth if I were ever to have the opportunity.

Posted by: Alamo at May 03, 2018 09:01 PM (5GtVW)

503 Ace, I agree. I could not believe that Donald Trump would be a great, or even a particularly good president (though he's done surprisingly well in a number of areas). But in a contest between himself and Hillary Clinton, it's painfully clear that he would be the *better* president.

Or to put it another way: We elected a vulgar businessman from Queens as president - in other words, we elected President Archie Bunker. But after eight years of President Meathead, Archie is looking pretty damn good.

Posted by: Brown Line at May 03, 2018 10:00 PM (S6ArX)

504 Trump could have (and probably did) bang Stormy Daniels like a cheap Chinese gong. And based on Stormy's track record as a porn actress, the emphasis should be on the word "cheap". And you know I don't give flying bushel of monkey poo about that. He wasn't any angel, and we knew that going in.

What I do care about is that he can, and does, bang Little Rocket Man about the head and shoulders until we come to some kind of Korean peace. And frankly the future ain't lookin' too bright for the Iranian mullahs. So far, it's all good.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 03, 2018 10:05 PM (Sda6L)

505 As a boy I learned at my Dear Mother's knee how to spot a racket. In secondary school we had, among other things, _Julius Caesar_ and _MacBeth_. This was my education in politics and served and continues to serve me well. Never read newspapers or followed broadcast news because they never got to the good stuff. One day in 2005 while channel surfing something made me stop and go back. It was Donald Trump dismantling O'Donnell. (I never use her given name because that is how my Mother was known to her friends.) He was calm and measured and matter of fact with a bemused expression.

"You can't make false statements, O'Donnell will rue the words she said. I'll most likely sue her for making those false statements---and it'll be fun. O'Donnell's a loser. A real loser. I look forward to taking lots of money from my nice, fat, little friend."

This was the good stuff. A big time operator publicly facing down a TV bully.

Trump did not attack O'Donnell. O'Donnell attacked Trump and attacked Miss USA who was under Trump's protection. Then it was war and Trump did not just respond. He went for unconditional surrender.

Donald Trump is not deeply flawed so you can stop with that. Donald Trump cares about those under his protection and upholds his word.

Posted by: Wit's End at May 04, 2018 12:26 AM (ROYpB)

506 The link to Ann Coulter in your right column is dead.

Money quote: "...until Hayes, Kristol, Goldberg, and French stop lying and admit that they supported Hillary Clinton for president over Trump, they cannot criticize Trump for lying."

Bingo.

Posted by: Gandydancer at May 04, 2018 01:11 AM (SowZm)

507 I didn't vote for Trump. Voted for McMullin, which I regret. Thrilled Hillary lost. Not thrilled with Trump as POTUS since morally and ethically he is a dirt bag and I question his mental stability, but his administration and "style" have produced many positive results. That said, my main problem with Trump supporters are the evangelicals, many of them my friends and family, who say Trump is God's representative on Earth and completely dismiss his immorality by anointing him a modern day King David (that's not hyperbole, they literally say that). Even though I don't consider myself a christian, I believe it is one of the greatest forces for good in this world and I admire men of deep Christian faith. But the ease with which they have discarded their principles to excuse Trump's immorality bugs the hell out of me.

Posted by: Sq_stDownOurWay at May 04, 2018 11:27 AM (rl2c4)

508 Like DownOurWay I voted for McMullin. My (probable pipe) dream was that neither candidate would win the majority of the electoral college votes. McMullin faded in Utah in the final weeks, but I voted for him hoping for a last minute change of heart for some. I didn't feel like I could vote for either candidate in good conscience and also was ambivalent about the actual governing results and power dynamics vs all GOP or split GOP congress with Dem executive branch.

My calculus was whether running up trillions more debt like we tend to do in this country under a united government was worth losing the supreme court seat. I have a feeling Hillary would've been mostly stonewalled and we'd have a $4-500 billion deficit now instead of a $1.5 trillion deficit. Under Obama, deficits declined when republicans gained control of congress. I think that trend of would've continued.

On the plus side of PDT's presidency so far, we have a conservative justice, reduced regulations and reduced taxes which I applaud. We've also unearthed tons of corruption in the bureaucratic class. I'm still not sure if it is worth another trillion in debt though. I'm deeply worried about the fiscal future of this country.

Posted by: Josh at May 06, 2018 05:04 AM (SsWLl)

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