Parkland Survivor Kyle Kashuv Interrogated by Broward Police for Non-Crime of Safely Shooting a Legal Gun Inside a Licensed Gun Range; "Treated Like a Criminal"

The Broward Cowards don't like confronting criminals with guns. They make up for it by getting tough with law-abiding citizens with guns.

Although Kashuv was a 2nd Amendment supporter, he'd never actually fired a gun before. So this past weekend he went to the range with his dad.

He posted about it on social media:

It was great learning about our inalienable right of #2A and how to properly use a gun. This was my first time ever touching a gun and it made me appreciate the #Constitution even more. My instructor was very informative; I learnt a lot. #2A is important and we need 2 preserve 2A pic.twitter.com/4rcOZbpl88
— Kyle Kashuv (@KyleKashuv) April 21, 2018

When a parent of a slain student objected to Kashuv's tweet, he responded in this sensible, polite way:

I'm very sorry for your loss, Mr. Guttenberg. Gun safety is important as it helps ensure safety. This is 100% in no way a joke and I can assure you that I don't think it is nor did I intend to act in a reckless manner. Again, I'm so sorry for your loss. May God bless your family.
— Kyle Kashuv (@KyleKashuv) April 22, 2018

Despite making it clear that he was not following the path of Nikolas Cruz, this tweet allegedly "traumatized" some fellow students.

So the Broward Cowards decided to treat the non-threat Kaschuv much differently from the actual live, multiply-reported threat Cruz.

Probably because they knew he wasn't a threat.

Near the end of third period, my teacher got a call from the office saying I need to go down and see a Mr. Greenleaf. I didn't know Mr. Greenleaf, but it turned out that he was an armed school resource officer.

How did you find him, given that he was certainly hiding in a stairwell?

I went down and found him, and he escorted me to his office. Then a second security officer walked in and sat behind me. Both began questioning me intensely. First, they began berating my tweet, although neither of them had read it; then they began aggressively asking questions about who I went to the range with, whose gun we used, about my father, etc. They were incredibly condescending and rude.
Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff's Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again. At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no. I asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, "Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?"
They continued to question me aggressively, though they could cite nothing I had done wrong. They kept calling me "the pro-Second Amendment kid." I was shocked and honestly, scared. It definitely felt like they were attempting to intimidate me.
I was treated like a criminal for no reason other than having gone to the gun range and posted on social media about it.

Motherf***ers.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:42 PM

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1 This kid is a minor?

They can't do this without consent and representation there, can they?

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2018 01:44 PM (P2lQF)

2 this is a 1983 lawsuit waiting to happen.

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 24, 2018 01:44 PM (Kuhyt)

3 The Broward Cowards found a threat they could address!...

Because he was clearly not a threat

Posted by: makatta at April 24, 2018 01:44 PM (Y7Qzg)

4 Sorry. Can't pontificate. Poolside.

Posted by: Katy Tay-Tur at April 24, 2018 01:44 PM (8cKhS)

5 ACLU will be on this in....oh...

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2018 01:45 PM (LiyEm)

6 I bet that Resource Officer eats Tater Tots.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2018 01:45 PM (P2lQF)

7 They can't do this without consent and representation there, can they

They do not accept that there are things they can't do.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2018 01:45 PM (wW03z)

8 I bet they never treated the actual shooter this harshly

Posted by: lin-duh at April 24, 2018 01:45 PM (9iLHi)

9

What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1!?1/!?1/?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 24, 2018 01:45 PM (mPeei)

10 On the other side- I do have to say, I'm very impressed by this young man. He showed FAR more restraint than I would have.

Posted by: makatta at April 24, 2018 01:45 PM (Y7Qzg)

11 it's easier to persecute the middle class law abiding citizen than it is to deal with actual criminals like Cruz and the rest of the DNC's base protected by the PROMISE program.

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 24, 2018 01:46 PM (Kuhyt)

12 Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff's Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again. At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no.

Boom! Interview over or you can cut a check to my attorney with 7 zeros.

For starters.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 01:46 PM (pQplJ)

13 Sue the school system

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 01:47 PM (5y11N)

14 No common sense whatsoever.

This school has piss poor leadership.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 24, 2018 01:47 PM (U+nHb)

15 >> He showed FAR more restraint than I would have.

"Well, you didn't say I couldn't LIVESTREAM it."

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2018 01:47 PM (P2lQF)

16 I fervently hope some "lawfare" will be launched upon these cretins.

Posted by: USMC8541 at April 24, 2018 01:47 PM (NmR1a)

17 They can't do this without consent and representation there, can they

They do not accept that there are things they can't do.
Posted by: pep

They can't run into a building with an active shooter.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 01:47 PM (pQplJ)

18 Standard communist operating procedure

Posted by: goodluckduck at April 24, 2018 01:47 PM (rwaEp)

19 >>They can't run into a building with an active shooter.

Securing the Perimeter, Boss.

Posted by: Parkland High Resource Officer at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (P2lQF)

20 This allegedly "traumatized" some fellow students.

The land of the fweeb and the home of the triggered.

Posted by: mindful webworker's national anathema at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (3tLP6)

21 This just another reason to be wary of the cops and their motives. Some have really let the power go to their heads.

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (HmVmq)

22 Let the lawsuits begin. Kashuv really needs to leave that insane asylum.

Behind a stairwell *snark*

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (suO/a)

23 If this was my kid, I'd be livid. Unreal what these people think they can get away with. What was even the point of the interview, to intimidate him into not posting things on social media?

Posted by: Bluedog at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (zlT2P)

24 Unfucking believable.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (sjdRT)

25 The armed school resource officer would have been a sworn peace officer, not a security guard. Add the Broward Sheriff's officer and the young man was being interviewed in custody with anything he said usable as evidence. Hopefully, one of our awesome 2A Attorneys will get on board with at least giving him their business card and explaining how he should handle those type of situations in the future.

Posted by: 2nd Amemdment Mother at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (USAOW)

26 Nothing like having an NY sheriff in FL.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (wGbBR)

27 I fervently hope some "lawfare" will be launched upon these cretins.
Posted by: USMC8541

You would hope an ambulance chaser would have contacted him as soon as this story hit the press.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (pQplJ)

28 Oh, so NOW, the school security gives a shit?

This is ridiculous even considering a horrible school shooting occurred there.

This is political targeting not real School security/safety.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (U+nHb)

29 Coward Brounty has a real problem. This is bullshit intimidation. Those snowflakes need some coloring books and a kick in the ass.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (Bo0jf)

30 the moral of this story is; Do not embarrass those that allowed kids to die , while we all watched and don't dare mention that Maybe just Maybe it is a good idea to learn to defend yourself.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (eaoOY)

31 Sue their MFing balls off. Individually, by name. Include the school board and the pussy BSO cowards for violating his civil rights. Make them pay big money to defend themselves in court.
I live in Coward County and this shit has to stop. The only way is to cost the commies in charge some real money. Infuriating.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (7A6l6)

32 At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no.

Never, ever, ever, ever ask permission to record. JUST FUCKING DO IT.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (LNPd9)

33 These Broward County Sheriff's are dickles.

Posted by: TJ at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (PKMk+)

34

EM PERSIMMON FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at April 24, 2018 01:49 PM (mPeei)

35 I bet they spent more time dressing down this kid than they did the Perp.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 01:50 PM (eaoOY)

36 Hey FL! The jig is up!

Posted by: Archer at April 24, 2018 01:50 PM (gbWkA)

37 "Mr. Greenleaf"

Why am I not surprised there is a school resource office in Broward County named "Mr. Greenleaf."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 24, 2018 01:50 PM (ATVNj)

38 Remember, keeds - always start your recording before engaging with the nice ossifers.

Posted by: mindful webworker's advice to the shopworn at April 24, 2018 01:50 PM (3tLP6)

39 Gutenberg's tweet doesn't even make sense. He visits his dead daughter on Kyle Kashuv's account? The hell?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 01:50 PM (NWiLs)

40 One said, "Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?"

If I was Broward County deputy, I don*t think I would be be encouraging anyone to remember what happened a few months ago. They might also recall the sheriff department*s immediate reaction to it.

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at April 24, 2018 01:51 PM (lKDd/)

41 This just another reason to be wary of the cops and their motives. Some have really let the power go to their heads.

It's the problem of government writ small. Power inevitably attracts those who want to abuse it. The Founding Fathers understood that and gave us a constitution. The Broward County Sheriff's Dept apparently doesn't and won't because it would interfere with the frisson of power.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2018 01:51 PM (wW03z)

42 Types deletes.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 01:51 PM (+lOpA)

43 Mandatory body cams for cops. Lack of compliance for any reason gets a serious fine to the officer and a bigger fine to the department.

Recordings stored 5 years and available via the standard FOIA.

Posted by: Alskari at April 24, 2018 01:51 PM (tdVTp)

44 That appears to be an AR-15 assault jig with a thing that goes up. This cannot be allowed.

Posted by: Archer at April 24, 2018 01:52 PM (gbWkA)

45 Seditious Mo***r Fu****s

Posted by: Sumdumchief at April 24, 2018 01:52 PM (C5oX6)

46 Someday they're going to be doing this to people who have books....but first, get the guns.

Posted by: torabora at April 24, 2018 01:52 PM (Y274z)

47
39 Gutenberg's tweet doesn't even make sense. He visits his dead daughter on Kyle Kashuv's account? The hell?
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 01:50 PM (NWiLs)

Grief and feels, h8er! GRIEF AND FEELZ!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (pNxlR)

48 Don't talk about your money
Don't talk about your health
Don't talk about your guns.

It is nobody's business. But if you share it, somebody will make it their business.

Posted by: Gridlock at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (5G252)

49 @40

"I wouldn't bring up Paris if I were you, it's poor salesmanship."

Posted by: Rick (to Ilsa) at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (zlT2P)

50 Oh, OK. Had to click through for the full context. Makes more sense now.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (NWiLs)

51 >39
Gutenberg's tweet doesn't even make sense. He visits his dead daughter on Kyle Kashuv's account? The hell?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 01:50 PM (NWiLs)

I think he tweeted a picture of her grave.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (sjdRT)

52 Motherf***ers.

This + 1,000

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (ptqGC)

53 Funny they could find Kyle from his tweets in order to browbeat him but couldn't be bothered to follow up on the shooter's social media red flags

Posted by: Steeldoc at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (cAvOz)

54 Kashuv's got good trigger discipline.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (NWiLs)

55 I'd go to the range again, with pics, the day after the interrogation. Shoot a little smiley face into your target and pose with it.

Posted by: Make Katy Perry Stop Murdering Nuns! at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (9AV11)

56 Sadly, big city police officer has become the best attainable job for the lowest common denominator in our society.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (wGbBR)

57 When you're alone in a room with the police and they say you aren't allowed to record an interview, it's time to start remembering Tyler Durden.

Posted by: JSchuler at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (7axIG)

58 Black rifle = bad bad thing

funny how that works...

Posted by: torabora at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (Y274z)

59 He should set up a Go-Fund-Me so he can go to a private school.

Posted by: Iblis at April 24, 2018 01:53 PM (9221z)

60 first thing you say when i cop wants to ask you questions:
"Am I being detained?" "yes" "I have nothing to say until I talk to my lawyer."

"Am I being detained?" "no" "I'm leaving."

do not pass go, do not give them an answer to anything but name, rank and serial number.

yes, we are at that point of things... have been for awhile.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 24, 2018 01:54 PM (osJAv)

61 His parents should sue the shit out of every institution involved and the individuals. He had the right to record the conversation. He is under 18 i assume so an lawyer/parent should have been present with police involved.

Sue the fucks. Press criminal charges as well.

Posted by: Monk at April 24, 2018 01:54 PM (J567a)

62
So the Broward Cowards decided to treat the non-threat Kaschuv much
differently from the actual live, multiply-reported threat Cruz.

Probably because they knew he wasn't a threat.
=====
As much as I dislike painting LE with the 'coward' brush, what the Cowards of Broward demonstrated to all of us, including those of us in the cheap seats, is that they are nasty bullies and when confronted, will run away.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 24, 2018 01:54 PM (MIKMs)

63 42 Types deletes.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 01:51 PM (+lOpA)

This.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 24, 2018 01:54 PM (Dp6qK)

64 And remember parents, it's never too early to teach your children about fifth amendment protections and police interactions.

As the lawyer says, you have a right to remain silent--use it!

Posted by: mindful webworker's final thought for the moment at April 24, 2018 01:54 PM (3tLP6)

65 Anarcho-tyranny, it's called.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 01:54 PM (fA1SL)

66 BIG BALLS.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 24, 2018 01:55 PM (ymnmz)

67 i think most of the police forces have been mandated to walk lightly against criminals, Because they were all obviously railroaded in some way to be criminals (thank Holder) so i guess they instead shaking up an average joe future adult is easier, and won't demand riots, when they are insulted.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 01:55 PM (eaoOY)

68 Anyone sassin' a cowardly SRO spends a night in the box without no tater-tots.

Posted by: carr, the tater-tot walker at April 24, 2018 01:55 PM (VBKy9)

69 I've been leaving messages for Karma but she's not answering. Hopefully she will pick up the phone shortly and I can provide her with a few names she needs to visit.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 01:55 PM (4ugnK)

70

Where is Gov Scott and AG Bondi? Why are they silent about this clear violation of Kyle's legal rights by the Coward County Sheriffs?

In fact, why haven't they removed Israel from office for his gross negligence that resulted in 17 needless deaths?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 24, 2018 01:55 PM (GdWl+)

71 Also, the kid clearly has manners and is respectful to others.

Something that little bastard Camera Hogg needs to learn.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 24, 2018 01:55 PM (ptqGC)

72 What complete pieces of cowardly shit.

Lawyer up young man and pick the college of your choice because they will be footing the bill.

Posted by: mpfs at April 24, 2018 01:55 PM (79p/O)

73 Meanwhile, the NRA breaks 15 year old fund raising record in March.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (Dp6qK)

74 I guess those poor people get triggered every time they see an AK-15 (intentional)in a movie,tv show or video game.All guns should be edited out and replaced with bananas.

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (LiyEm)

75 Huh. They didn't cower behind another building - they actually confronted the non-gun-toting, non-threatening student inside. Three on one.

Courage!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (W+vEI)

76 Sue the school system
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 01:47 PM (5y11N)

The school and the sheriff's department. This was simple harassment. His tweet was in no way threatening.

Posted by: WOPR at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (J70i0)

77 Florida is some kind of derp magnet.

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (xBSm0)

78 He should have asked them if they could recommend a good hiding range where he could practice emergency response tactics like the pros in their department.

Posted by: not the mama at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (Gke0j)

79 One said, "Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?"

Obvious answer:

"Bitch! I was in it. YOU were hiding outside!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (pQplJ)

80 Never, ever, ever, ever ask permission to record. JUST FUCKING DO IT.

Florida is a two party consent state, as is my home state of Washington.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (iv0p7)

81 Constitution of the United States

Article XXXVII

The Crybullies' Veto

When, in the course of time, hysterical crybabies become a majority of the citizenry, fainting at the slightest challenge to their equanimity, it shall be necessary for the State to impose the full force of coercive menace against any law-abiding citizen who nonetheless has not groveled in abject obedience to the whims of the crybaby majority,

Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2018 01:57 PM (42M22)

82 "One said, "Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?"

Yeah I do. That was where you cowards didn't enter the school or ran away while a KNOWN crazy person was killing us.

That's about it and my attorney will be very busy with you three, the county, the school system, and the sheriffs department.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 24, 2018 01:57 PM (pw+jk)

83 Obvious answer:

"Bitch! I was in it. YOU were hiding outside!"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (pQplJ)

--------

Well said.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 24, 2018 01:57 PM (U+nHb)

84 this is a stupid question , but i'm going to ask anyway. Because i see this on movies alot
Why do the police question a child without a parent or atty advocate present . Do they have any righs?

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 01:57 PM (eaoOY)

85 Wasn't there something in the news about the unions having a no confidence vote in the Sheriff of Broward? Maybe a first step to the governor removing him from office?

Posted by: Make Katy Perry Stop Murdering Nuns! at April 24, 2018 01:57 PM (9AV11)

86 How old is the kid -- 16, 17? Even if he is young, if he's a 2A supporter, then he probably knows more about his rights than most of his crowd. He should have looked his inquisitor in the eye after the first question and said, "I want a lawyer. No more answers until I have a lawyer."

"We can't let you have a lawyer."

"Then this interview is over. And if you don't let me leave, I'm calling my father, who will call his attorney. Questions?"

Of course, I'm imagining how I'd like it to have gone, had it been me. Any 17-year-old that self-possessed would belong on Dawson's Creek: The Crazy Years.

Agreed: lawsuit. Now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2018 01:57 PM (Tgext)

87 majority, --> majority.

Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2018 01:58 PM (42M22)

88
80 Never, ever, ever, ever ask permission to record. JUST FUCKING DO IT.

Florida is a two party consent state, as is my home state of Washington.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (iv0p7)

I wouldn't give a fuck in the face of their Gestapo tactics.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2018 01:58 PM (pNxlR)

89 Kyle sounds like another O'Keefe-in-training. Can't wait for the next episode.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2018 01:58 PM (7n4KQ)

90 In one sense I kind of get what they are doing. I mean its a bit too late, but following up on social media posts of kids posing with guns isn't a bad thing necessarily. Maybe if they'd put the slightest effort into actually following up on the shooter's blatant and repeated posting about wanting to murder people they could have stopped him.

But... this guy is clearly not a lunatic wanting to murder people. He's obviously learning responsible gun use and training rather than posing and threatening. And he's obviously a vocal critic of the Broward County sheriffs department and school administration so this looks more like retaliation and punishing a kid for holding the wrong positions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 01:58 PM (39g3+)

91 Harassment? More like Stalking and whatever false imprisonment. Plus sue them all. Shit like this will only increase and pile on until you stand up to the totalitarians.

And where is the ACLU?

Posted by: Monk at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (J567a)

92 Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff's Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again. At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no. I asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, "Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?"
Yeah. The Broward County Sheriff Office was useless in protecting my fellow students, hiding behind a car outside while the gunmen continued his rampage.

Posted by: undocumented illegal Kyle Kashuv at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (e8kgV)

93 60 It's really fucking pitiful it has to come to this.

What in the world did those sheriffs think they were accomplishing, if what Kyle is saying is accurate? What crime was committed here? A lack of 'feels'?

Posted by: Gaff at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (jPS2y)

94 That Sheriff Israel down there sure has that department running at peak fucking stupid.

Big fucking men going 3-on-1 with a teenager......

Fucking faggots.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (jjaLl)

95 These leftist and useful idiot *&$%s just keep pushing.

The double standard and hypocrisy makes my blood boil.

Posted by: RM at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (U3LtS)

96 80 Never, ever, ever, ever ask permission to record. JUST FUCKING DO IT.

Florida is a two party consent state, as is my home state of Washington.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (iv0p7)

...

If you notify them you're recording, does that not satisfy the requirement?

Serious question. I say "hey I'm recording now" and hold the phone out. They've been notified, and can either talk or not talk.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (yL25O)

97 I wonder if one of these three "men" was the deputy they caught sleeping in his car.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9of72dt

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (iv0p7)

98 This is what these pricks do.

In NJ, 90pct of criminals caught with guns either have the charges dropped or reduced to nothing, you know who NJ prosecutors really go after??

PA Security guards with concealed carry that mistakenly go over the border into NJ with their weapon.

A man with a functioning historical firearm that he admitted to having in his glove compartment.

Christy had to pardon those and others caught up in NJ fascist prosecutors zealotry against otherwise law abiding gun owners while they let hardened repeat criminals roam the streets.

This is all part of the plan.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (l2rO4)

99 Social media is not your friend.

Posted by: rickl at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (xjiRE)

100 Kyle, You're correct, young man. They were arttempting to intimidate you. Mark Steyn is filling in for Rush today. He said that Kanye West-(who, like me Steyn said that "he wouldn't know if he came into Starbucks and stayed too long without buying anything and I was the barrista") said the attempt to badger and coerce people who express a different opinion than the SJW groupthink is "mental slavery". Good choice of words, Kanye. Next thing you know, Kyle, you'll be banned from Twitter and Facebook by the tolerant left.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (tpDAe)

101 So the mere photo of the kid at the gun range "triggered" the other parent and he just had to respond with an irrelevant virtue-signaling non sequitur.

Kyle's measured response shows that he's wiser than his years.

The rest of the story is infuriating.

Posted by: Anonymous7 at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (5aqWh)

102 Never, ever, ever, ever ask permission to record. JUST FUCKING DO IT.

Florida is a two party consent state, as is my home state of Washington.
Posted by: bonhomme

Consent in person to person conversation is when you turn on the recording device and place it in front of the other party. If they keep talking, they've given consent.

I would have stuck my phone right in front of this dick-shit's face.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (LNPd9)

103 Why do the police question a child without a parent or atty advocate present . Do they have any righs?

Police prefer to question everyone without anyone present, but they have a right to it, and in many states they CANNOT question a kid without a parent or guardian present.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (39g3+)

104 >>
Big fucking men going 3-on-1 with a teenager......

Goddamn -

I bet the transcripts are hot as hell!

Posted by: Shep Smith at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (P2lQF)

105
." I was shocked and honestly, scared. It definitely felt like they were attempting to intimidate me.

Intimidate? You ain't seen nothing yet kid

Posted by: Bob Mueller at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (lKyWE)

106 The heavy hand of corrupt cowards!

Posted by: Tentotwo at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (yhf6w)

107 "it's easier to persecute the middle class law abiding citizen than it is to deal with actual criminals like Cruz and the rest of the DNC's base protected by the PROMISE program."

This is true.

Posted by: RM at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (U3LtS)

108 It has gotten to the point where I told my kids that if they are ever questioned in school in situations like these, or in general where a school administrator wants to interrogate them, that they say nothing other than they want to speak to me.

A far cry from the "Officer Friendly" days I grew up in.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (tVWQB)

109 He should have pulled the Vinnie Barbarino.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (4ugnK)

110 so they go to the school to confront him instead of his home ? why?

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:01 PM (eaoOY)

111 I would recommend giving the names and emails/twitter addys of all the so called "grief stricken parents", and "students," as well as the Security Officers and Sheriffs personnel to the nice mild mannered folks at 4Chan -

In the meantime I suggest that the parents of this boy sue the asses off the school district and the sheriffs office. If I were trump I would direct the US Attorney's Office to investigate the unlawful imprisonment and intentional deprivation of rights as well as harassment of this boy by all these people, state officials/county employees immediately. A few jackboots from our side banging on a few doors might start to instill a bit of common sense into the a-holes - you know - "pour encourager les autres." Why does only the left get to use jack-boot tactics?

It is time to punch back twice as hard.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 24, 2018 02:01 PM (Fb9aZ)

112 62 I support police reflexively, but let me tell you a lot of the cops down here in Coward County are just transplanted NY and NJ 20 year guys who are working on their second pension while trying to take it easy in the sunshine with minimal effort. The corrupt BSO is a political swamp that needs to be drained.
It's all a big stinking pile of Democrat.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at April 24, 2018 02:01 PM (7A6l6)

113 Our cops...following in the UK footsteps.

Are they even allowed to question a kid without his parent present...for a Non-crime. I'm not a lawyer, but that's what I learned from L&O. So maybe a real lawyere could weigh in.

More police state tactics. Funny how they weren't all over the CAIR members...who they taught to shoot.

That father should bring a complaint or sue or something. This is like a bad movie about corrupt cops.

What is the recourse here? Anyone know.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:01 PM (xE5n0)

114 I got a speeding ticket this morning. I was going to just pay it, but fuck that. Let's go to court. Let's see your evidence.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2018 02:01 PM (PNcou)

115 Florida is a two party consent state, as is my home state of Washington.
Posted by: bonhomme

So if you tell the cops, "no recording", they can't record an interview with you?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:01 PM (pQplJ)

116 Big Guys when the kid isn't on Devil's Breath accomplishing the tasks it would take 2 highly trained men.

Posted by: Monk at April 24, 2018 02:01 PM (J567a)

117 You know, if Trump had a kid, he'd look like Kyle.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (yL25O)

118 Florida is a two party consent state, as is my home state of Washington.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (iv0p7)

---

Tell them

"i'm recording. If you don't consent then STFU"

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (PNcou)

119 Well ya, everybody has a cow because the Broward County Sheriff doesn't do enough to stop the last school shooting, so now when the Broward Country Sheriff tries to stop the next school shooting everyone has a cow.

/heavy sarcasm 'cuz I'm outta tater tots. makes me irritable when I'm outta food.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (roQNm)

120 So the mere photo of the kid at the gun range "triggered" the other
parent and he just had to respond with an irrelevant virtue-signaling
non sequitur.

Kyle's measured response shows that he's wiser than his years.

THIS. I hope Kyle's "God bless you" didn't trigger the parent further.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (ptqGC)

121 Every kid should be instructed by their parents that if they are ever pulled in to be interrogated that they refuse to answer any questions until his or her parents are present.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (4ugnK)

122 screw college, invest the money and learn a trade, better use of both time and money.

plus he could buy more ammo.

and yeah, the things I'd like to say would get us ALL banned...

Posted by: Todler at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (8D42x)

123 Cowards only know how to scare school children.

Posted by: JAS at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (sCN2W)

124 Always record encounters with agents of the state. Always.

Posted by: Monk at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (J567a)

125 Talk about locking the barn door after the horse was stolen.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - General Mayhem 50% off at the Outrage Outlet! at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (hLRSq)

126 Quite a bit of overcompensation going on here. Sue the fuckers. Sue them hard.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (RD7QR)

127 I've always been pro police, law enforcement in general but hoo boy, my faith in these institutions in the last few years has really taken a hit.

A HUGE hit. I know there are really conscientious officers but there seem to be a lot of power-pushy, assholes too.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (U+nHb)

128 121
Every kid should be instructed by their parents that if they are ever
pulled in to be interrogated that they refuse to answer any questions
until his or her parents are present.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (4ugnK)

And have mommy daddy bring a lawyer.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (jxbfJ)

129 What was even the point of the interview, to intimidate him into not posting things on social media?Posted by: Bluedog at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (zlT2P)

Yes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (tpDAe)

130 A far cry from the "Officer Friendly" days I grew up in.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 24, 2018
*
*
If I'm ever in a situation like that, I plan to say, "My mother always told me, when I was in trouble, ask a cop. These days I'd think she'd be ashamed to say that."

Then shut up, or demand a lawyer.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (Tgext)

131 Big fucking men going 3-on-1 with a teenager......

Goddamn -

I bet the transcripts are hot as hell!

Posted by: Shep Smith at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (P2lQF)

I should be appalled how Shep used a pull quote from my comment, but LOL!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (jjaLl)

132 41 This just another reason to be wary of the cops and their motives. Some have really let the power go to their heads.

It's the problem of government writ small. Power inevitably attracts those who want to abuse it. The Founding Fathers understood that and gave us a constitution. The Broward County Sheriff's Dept apparently doesn't and won't because it would interfere with the frisson of power.
Posted by: pep at April 24, 2018 01:51 PM (wW03z)

It's the problem with all government. Hell, it's the problem with all positions of authority. Positions of authori-tie attract people who want that authori-tie, and those are NOT the people you want, but those are the people you tend to get.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

133 Florida is some kind of derp magnet.
=====

Broward schools seems to have the worst examples of both -- school administration from Chicago and law enforcement from NY.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (MIKMs)

134 This is the important thing to remember: you have to insist upon your rights, because despite the intent of the founding fathers and the constitution, authorities will not grant you your exercise of your rights unless you do so. Police will not get you a lawyer, you have to insist upon one being present. They will do everything they can to get information from you, using every trick, psychological device, and shaming you (what do you need a lawyer for, you're not guilty right?).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (39g3+)

135 In one sense I kind of get what they are doing. I mean its a bit too late, but following up on social media posts of kids posing with guns isn't a bad thing necessarily.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 01:58 PM (39g3+)

The only sense to this was they wanted to harass the kid. Nothing in the tweet could be seen as a threat to anyone. Just posting about being at a gun range is not an excuse for a cop to haul out of class and into an office for interrogation. This is wrong six ways from Sunday and trying to being all understanding doesn't cut it.

Posted by: WOPR at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (J70i0)

136 Northern The kid that did the shooting had a long history. This kid survived that. and now wants to have the ability to defend himself as he stated, Is that the same thing?

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (eaoOY)

137 I wish Ace would finish up an article by telling us how he really feels. I'm always scratching my head and wondering.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (nvMvs)

138 Thinking about the father upset because his son was killed.
If his son was killed in a traffic accident would he be upset by a tweet about a dream car>

Posted by: Northernlurker in the mountains at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (sILsL)

139 this is a stupid question , but i'm going to ask anyway. Because i see this on movies alot
Why do the police question a child without a parent or atty advocate present . Do they have any righs?
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 01:57 PM (eaoOY)

Remember, the idea is to remove all parental rights from their children and give them to the state. At age 17, he doesn't have the same exact rights as an adult, but is certainly old enough to completely intimidate.

The school and the sheriff's department would be receiving a letter from my atty. if this happened to my kid.

With that said, this kind of thing didn't happen years ago because years ago, we didn't have twitter,Instagram, youtube, and facebook to put photos of every single thing we do all day or say.
Kids and adults, this one included do not understand how privacy being valued and protected by the constitution was to prevent this exact kind of crap from happening to an individual. They don't value personal privacy over getting immediate gratification from other's by posting their every activity.

STOP posting everything on the internet.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (m0lmR)

140 109 He should have pulled the Vinnie Barbarino.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (4ugnK)

---

He should have had a note from his mother

Posted by: Juan Epstein at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (PNcou)

141

I wouldn't give a fuck in the face of their Gestapo tactics.

Neither would I.

Any conversation with an agent of the court system is public record, whether it's held in private or not, when it concerns the law. Cops don't inform you of their cameras and recording, do they? They just do it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (GdWl+)

142 "Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?"

Answer: "Yeah, I remember that the Broward County Sheriff's Department Donut Division shit their pants, ran away and let some psycho shoot up the school. Is that what you're referring to, dickless?"

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (ATVNj)

143 And when it all turns bloody and it will it seems, the Leftist twinks will wonder how it became Lexington-Concord. By acting like bullies is how you get this reaction.

I'll consider your espousal of 'respect mai authorotay!' when you are more like Sheriff Andy instead of more like the Reich police under Himmler's command.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (kX6Uw)

144 129 What was even the point of the interview, to intimidate him into not posting things on social media?Posted by: Bluedog at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (zlT2P)

Yes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (tpDAe)

That backfired a bit - went viral instead.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (7n4KQ)

145 (btw i like cow, on a plate medium please)

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (eaoOY)

146 That kid is so composed and mature - then and now, I woulda got myself in trouble because I would have called them a bunch of cock sucking meter maids that turned and ran as fast as they could if any REAL danger ever showed up. Then I would have sung the Brave Sir Robin song.

Sometimes in the past I was kinda like that title of Ron White's book about his youth in a small town - "I had the Right to remain Silent, just not the Ability."

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (V2Yro)

147 114
I got a speeding ticket this morning. I was going to just pay it, but fuck that. Let's go to court. Let's see your evidence.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2018 02:01 PM (PNcou)

You'll have to pay court fees no matter what. Might as well go and talk to the judge.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 24, 2018 02:05 PM (jxbfJ)

148 112 62 I support police reflexively,

Not anymore. The silent "thin blue line" ruined that.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:05 PM (pQplJ)

149 134 This is the important thing to remember: you have to insist upon your rights, because despite the intent of the founding fathers and the constitution, authorities will not grant you your exercise of your rights unless you do so. Police will not get you a lawyer, you have to insist upon one being present. They will do everything they can to get information from you, using every trick, psychological device, and shaming you (what do you need a lawyer for, you're not guilty right?).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (39g3+)

They can't pull this shit on minors. It's a big no no because they can't consent.

Posted by: Monk at April 24, 2018 02:05 PM (J567a)

150 121
Every kid should be instructed by their parents that if they are ever
pulled in to be interrogated that they refuse to answer any questions
until his or her parents are present.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (4ugnK)

And have mommy daddy bring a lawyer.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (jxbfJ)

Bingo.

Posted by: WOPR at April 24, 2018 02:05 PM (J70i0)

151 Broward schools seems to have the worst examples of both -- school administration from Chicago and law enforcement from NY.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (MIKMs)

Sadly, those locusts have moved to Broward to escape the shitholes of Chicago and NYC, only to do their damndest to turn Broward into the same shitholes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 24, 2018 02:05 PM (ptqGC)

152 I'd already be in handcuffs and jail, bcz I'd have been a smartass and said...

"I'm learning to fire a gun so I can protect myself, now that we know you guys hide when there's a school shooting, instead of protecting us. Then you come here and hassle me, an innocent kid. Did you give this much attention to Cruz? Maybe people would still be alive."

Yea, I'd be in jail.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:05 PM (xE5n0)

153
The Battle of the Survivors

Posted by: Soothie at April 24, 2018 02:05 PM (LDnNZ)

154 Yep. Today is going to be leg day....again.

Posted by: Monk at April 24, 2018 02:06 PM (J567a)

155 Mr. Greenleaf is a pseudonym for Walter Peck.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2018 02:06 PM (7n4KQ)

156 Ah, so this kid we can believe but the Camera Hoggs and Shaved Guevaras of the world are full of shit. Got it.

Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:06 PM (WQLgZ)

157 The kid that did the shooting had a long history.

--

Yes, and now this kid has the beginning of a history with the cops.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (roQNm)

158 Jen, thanks for responding i agree don't put everything in you life up on the internet.
saying that i have pretty well did that Here, talking in this forum (only place i type into internet space)

but i agree we all Now know it is a bad idea.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (eaoOY)

159 This was merely some hotshot thinking he could do the intimidation dance and "scared straight" approach. He probably gave the ole eye roll to the principal...and said "watch my smoke" or some such nonsense....Then Kashuv posts about it. I don't think the kid is intimidated. If anything, they just motivated him further.

That kind of junk works on the "safe space" crowd. It doesn't work on people like Kushav.

The other thing is that the Supreme Court decided a case that requires Miranda rights be read if an interview takes place in a custodial setting and the student is not free to leave for some reason. I think, were it me, I would find out what they wanted. If they refused to give a clear answer to that, I would have left the room.

Posted by: Orson at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (aY1vT)

160 Thinking about the father upset because his son was killed.
If his son was killed in a traffic accident would he be upset by a tweet about ~~a dream car~~ a kid taking a safe driving course?

*Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (EyPfd)

161 Who wants to bet that they give Camera Hogg a diploma and try to refuse Kyle his diploma?

Posted by: pookysgirl at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (XKZwp)

162 133 Florida is some kind of derp magnet.
=====

Broward schools seems to have the worst examples of both -- school administration from Chicago and law enforcement from NY.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (MIKMs)

South Florida is its own little substate.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (NWiLs)

163 108
It has gotten to the point where I told my kids that if they are ever
questioned in school in situations like these, or in general where a
school administrator wants to interrogate them, that they say nothing
other than they want to speak to me.

A far cry from the "Officer Friendly" days I grew up in.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 24, 2018 02:00 PM (tVWQB)

*** this happened to Redux Junior once. Long story - but he was questioned and forced to implicate himself in something it turned out he was not involve in at all.

When the truth came out - I marched down to the school and lambasted everyone involved, including the Head of School, for over an hour. That is what this kid's father should do. Demand to speak without everyone involved.****
Form that point on - I told my son just that - you get asked in to be questioned? Name, Rank, home telephone number - that is it. Period.
I will be the judge of the guilt and/or discipline of my kid Mr Teacher/Administrator and NOT you, do you understand? Particularly where you have shown yourselves top be so spectacularly incompetent at any such actions in the past.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (Fb9aZ)

164 156 Ah, so this kid we can believe but the Camera Hoggs and Shaved Guevaras of the world are full of shit. Got it.
Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:06 PM (WQLgZ)

What part of their testimony has been rejected?

Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (yL25O)

165

If Kyle (and we) were smart we'd start the #neveragainbeavictim campaign to "raise awareness" on self defense with guns.

Posted by: Soothie at April 24, 2018 02:07 PM (LDnNZ)

166

Tell them

"i'm recording. If you don't consent then STFU"

And if they do anything to deny you your rights, you have a record for the lawsuit.

Hopefully, you'll be streaming to the cloud, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 24, 2018 02:08 PM (GdWl+)

167 Every kid should be instructed by their parents that if they are ever
pulled in to be interrogated that they refuse to answer any questions
until his or her parents are present.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:02 PM (4ugnK)

And have mommy daddy bring a lawyer.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (jxbfJ)

Bingo.
Posted by: WOPR at April 24, 2018 02:05 PM (J70i0)

I should have clarified that includes school administrators which would not always require a lawyer. In this specific case an attorney would definitely be appropriate.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:08 PM (4ugnK)

168 This allegedly "traumatized" some fellow students.

Who? Hogg? I hope they sue. I'm so sick of all the suing being from left to right. Fuck them.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:08 PM (o7tuA)

169 So, the kid that actually did the shooting SAID on social media that he was going to be a school shooter.

The Broward County Sheriff's Department and the FBI did nothing.

Now, someone posts a video of a legal activity, and they become Super Troopers.

How pathetic.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 24, 2018 02:08 PM (ATVNj)

170 So this happened a few days ago. Has there been a follow-up?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (0tfLf)

171 If this kid starts a "fundme" for legal fees to sue the piss outta these f#cks...I'll donate.

Posted by: USMC8541 at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (xGZ+b)

172 >>South Florida is its own little substate.

You misspelled shithole.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (7n4KQ)

173
WQLgZ, check the mirror to determine who is full of shit.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (pNxlR)

174 Getting pulled down to the office and surrounded by pigs is de facto a detention and Miranda attaches. It was an illegal interrogation.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (NWiLs)

175 Now we know who the real bullies are. Maybe the crazy kid was driven over the edge by these careless law-and-order type bullies. What a bunch of assholes.

Posted by: Fritz at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (2Mnv1)

176 These people are the excremental afterbirth of civilization.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (wwd4n)

177 Broward schools seems to have the worst examples of both -- school administration from Chicago and law enforcement from NY.
-------

Sadly, those locusts have moved to Broward to escape the shitholes of Chicago and NYC, only to do their damndest to turn Broward into the same shitholes.

====

This
is why I no longer support those refugees from failed states who flee a bad situation instead of getting organized and fighting back to fix their own problems instead of running away from them.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (roQNm)

178 Motherf**kers indeed. Hope dad is on the phone to some barrel chested, well dressed high priced, No BS lawyer type to go after the jugular on those spineless thugs, the school board, and the BC keystone cops.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at April 24, 2018 02:10 PM (9B/d8)

179 Point taken VIA.

Posted by: Northernlurker in the mountains at April 24, 2018 02:10 PM (sILsL)

180 172 >>South Florida is its own little substate.

You misspelled shithole.
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (7n4KQ)

Well, in parts. Sections of West Palm, Broward and Miami are rich AF. Other parts are crime-ridden third world villages.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:10 PM (NWiLs)

181 Keep pushing it, leftists.
Keep it up.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 24, 2018 02:10 PM (jWe5r)

182 I'm just amazed they were even able to find Kyle. When did they learn to track people down based on a Tweet?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2018 02:11 PM (PNcou)

183 I'd already be in handcuffs and jail, bcz I'd have been a smartass and said...

Maybe now but at 17? There's a reason the military drafts 18 year olds and not 30.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:11 PM (39g3+)

184 Here's Guttenberg's description of his twitter account:

"My daughter was Jaime Guttenberg. She was murdered in Parkland Florida on February 14, 2018. I will dedicate the rest of my life to the cause of gun safety."

Duh.. you stupid mother fucker.. what was the kid tweeting about?? Gun safety!

Which means you don't give a shit about "gun safety", that is just your leftard way of saying "confiscate all guns".

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 24, 2018 02:12 PM (so+oy)

185 If your local sheriff is named Israel, you're fucked.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:12 PM (2LelM)

186 Well, in parts. Sections of West Palm, Broward and Miami are rich AF. Other parts are crime-ridden third world villages.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:10 PM (NWiLs)

So California Southeast.

Posted by: WOPR at April 24, 2018 02:12 PM (J70i0)

187 I bet the Cowards of Broward have this interview all taped. I would be suing for the tape and about oh $1 billion in emotional damages plus lawyer fees.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 02:12 PM (kX6Uw)

188 171 If this kid starts a "fundme" for legal fees to sue the piss outta these f#cks...I'll donate.

Posted by: USMC8541 at April 24, 2018 02:09 PM (xGZ+b)

Only Deep State Grumblefucks like Bob "Comey's Homey" Mueller are allowed to do that.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 02:12 PM (WDCYi)

189 "Florida is a two party consent state, as is my home state of Washington.

Posted by: bonhomme
"

Not a lawyer, but I suspect that when dealing with state officials (like police officers), consent is not required because they are not acting as private citizens in that case, but are instead representing the state, which has no right to privacy. Or something like that.

Posted by: OldStevie at April 24, 2018 02:12 PM (YBUIU)

190 Speasking of Ron White, I think we missed the chance last thread to invoke something along the lines of

"Yup, you caught me... you got the Tater....."

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:12 PM (jjaLl)

191 Wait whut?

Posted by: ACLU at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (ymnmz)

192 Mr Kashuv is the only adult in this entire situation. Would be awesome if Mark Levin took this pro bono.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (sPimO)

193 Look. The kid's initials are 2/3 of the way to being KKK. Why wouldn't the police be concerned?

Posted by: Don Lemon at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (ATVNj)

194 this reminds me of sending my children to school , and how i would have to sit with them outside the classroom and tell them those People in the class were going to be friends, and the teacher loved kids , why else would she be there?

anyway, shame.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (eaoOY)

195 Stuff like this is why went from giving law enforcement the benefit of the doubt, to now looking at everything they do skeptically.

Posted by: Thursby at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (WVn9a)

196 Following the Twitter feed of a Manchester Guardian reporter who's at the hearing for Baby Alfie.

Man: what a mess. The judge sounds like a dick.

Posted by: Shopgirl at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (53ahq)

197 "There's a reason the military drafts 18 year olds and not 30."

Draft was ended a few decades ago.

Moose at the front should have told you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (EyPfd)

198 From 2013 series, a 3rd-Amendment cartoon webwork, linked in nic. Because, rights.

Posted by: mindful webworker - forced semi-retirement at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (3tLP6)

199 This guy has got to stop antagonizing animals.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/22/man-bitten-by-shark-bear-snake-in-less-than-4-years/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (39g3+)

200 179
Point taken VIA.

Posted by: Northernlurker in the mountains at April 24, 2018 02:10 PM (sILsL)

your point was excellent too Northernlurker.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (o7tuA)

201 Jeebus, as kids we walked to the dump carrying our .22's and no one thought it odd or dangerous. We have a country full of pantywaists these days.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (2LelM)

202 WQLgZ

yay. a troll.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (TXZiW)

203 By "gun safety" he means that if no one has guns people will be safe.

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (LiyEm)

204 Not true of course.

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (LiyEm)

205 Oh pro tip - never ask whether you "can record " something. Simply say: "By the way, I am recording this."

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (Fb9aZ)

206 The Sheriff's department really put their dick into a bear trap here from a PR and legal stand point.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (kX6Uw)

207

By "gun safety" he means that if no one has guns people will be safe.

He keeps using that term.

It doesn't mean what he thinks it means.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 24, 2018 02:15 PM (GdWl+)

208 Brave, brave Sir Broward!
He bravely ran away, away!

Posted by: Sir Robin's Minstrels at April 24, 2018 02:15 PM (rwaEp)

209 Debbie Wasserman country.

Posted by: bobby ahr at April 24, 2018 02:15 PM (zmZ2x)

210 "Kashuv" almost sounds like "Kalashnikov", so a police interrogation was justified.

Posted by: Michael Bloomberg at April 24, 2018 02:15 PM (ATVNj)

211 This story really pisses me off.

Figuratively speaking, heads need to roll.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 24, 2018 02:15 PM (8iiMU)

212 Sue the SOB's.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at April 24, 2018 02:15 PM (8Ls/+)

213 Intimidation is the sine qua non of liberal cowards.

Apparently that's how they roll in Broward County. Run from the criminals and gunshots, castigate and harass those expressing their fundamental rights.

Posted by: Marcus T, Avenger at April 24, 2018 02:15 PM (VpIIl)

214 Moose at the front should have told you.

The moose lies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:16 PM (39g3+)

215 There is no moose.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 24, 2018 02:16 PM (roQNm)

216 Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:12 PM (2LelM)

and another one. does Helen Thomas have a sister? think you got a shot at that?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 24, 2018 02:16 PM (TXZiW)

217 doing this at the school instead of at the kids home , the twiiter was written in the p.ms. so why didn't they go to the childs home instead?
and unless this kid has been a problem kid.. why not just ramble by the kids house so the parents could tell them , that the kid had a right to learn self defense instead of corning the kid at school?

was this to solely intimidate and make a statement to other kids that might be in agreement?

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:16 PM (eaoOY)

218 183 I'd already be in handcuffs and jail, bcz I'd have been a smartass and said...

Maybe now but at 17? There's a reason the military drafts 18 year olds and not 30.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:11 PM (39g3+)

I don't think the cops were following the law...at all. And would have had no problem "bringing me down to the station" for whatever charge they could whip up. They were already acting outside the law.
I've seen it before.

And that Principal did nothing to protect that kid...like call the father. Too bad our journalists are too busy with tater tots to talk about rights infringement.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:16 PM (xE5n0)

219 Sinead Quinine?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (ATVNj)

220 The best outcome for the kid is to sue the school system and use the proceeds to attend a real school.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (2LelM)

221 GLadOS, "The moose is a lie."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (kX6Uw)

222 215 There is no moose.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 24, 2018 02:16 PM (roQNm)

This is not my beautiful house.

This is not my beautiful wife.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (WDCYi)

223 I said it yesterday and I'll say it again:
FUCK the Broward County cowards: Sheriff, Deputies and Resource Officers alike.

If they had any honor, they'd eat a bullet.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (xJa6I)

224 There..are..four...Moose.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (EyPfd)

225 Well, this young man and the earlier mentioned Brit child are just lebensunwertes leben...

The right to exist belongs to the Lander...er, state.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (7LY+6)

226 was this to solely intimidate and make a statement to other kids that might be in agreement?

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as much as it was an attempt to provoke the kid to anger so they could put him in handcuffs and in jail.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (roQNm)

227 I'm certain we have a moose.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (+lOpA)

228 I've mentioned this before, but my son's principal IN THE FOURTH GRADE called the cops on him because he touched a girl's butt on the playground playing tag. Called the cops. On a fourth grade kid. Playing tag.

I was livid. She called me to ask if I would like to be there when the cops arrived.

YOU'RE DAMNED RIGHT I WILL. NOT ONE WORD UNTIL I ARRIVE, UNDERSTAND!!!! AND DON'T YOU TOUCH HIM.

Even the cop thought it was bullshit. My son thought he was going to jail. It was shortly after the cop left that I began to berate the principal. I didn't stop doing so for quite a long while, and when I left, I left my lawyer's card on her desk.

I'm all about school discipline, but this was not that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (7UW64)

229 I don't think the cops were following the law...at all. And would have had no problem "bringing me down to the station" for whatever charge they could whip up. They were already acting outside the law.

No, what I mean is that its easy to come up with the perfect smartass crack we'd say now at 29 years old, but at his age, alone, surrounded by big cops and school admins? Probably not going to be firing off witty rejoinders. He admits he was scared, and that's what they fully intended.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (39g3+)

230 The Sheriff's department really put their dick into a bear trap here from a PR and legal stand point.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (kX6Uw)

lol
I like that visual...made me smile.

Now I can't wait for it to slam shut!

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (xE5n0)

231 You need the answer to two questions:

Am I being detained?

Am I under arrest?

If the answer to those questions is no, LEAVE.

You do not have to talk to the cops. In fact, you should not, ever.

Stop allowing the police to weaponize your nice guy tendencies, your desire to "clear up" a misunderstanding. If they are interviewing you in any way adversarial manner, establish the context (see above questions), and LEAVE if you are not being detained.

Posted by: Unknownsailor at April 24, 2018 02:19 PM (2TtVi)

232 as much as it was an attempt to provoke the kid to anger so they could put him in handcuffs and in jail.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (roQNm)

bingo.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 02:19 PM (+lOpA)

233 Moose at the front should have told you.

The moose lies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

There is no moose.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse

There was a moose.
Moose now in chest freezer.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:19 PM (pQplJ)

234 We're closing in on "Peak Say-Nothing-To-Any-Cop," aren't we?

And it's their own damn fault. Jack-booted thugs.

Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 02:19 PM (953wK)

235 227 I'm certain we have a moose.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (+lOpA)

I had one in the back yard yesterday. He left his calling card, so to speak. Does that count?

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 24, 2018 02:19 PM (7UW64)

236 226 as much as it was an attempt to provoke the kid to anger so they could put him in handcuffs and in jail.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (roQNm)

Every action meticulously planned for maximum propaganda value...

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 02:19 PM (WDCYi)

237 The real stupidity by the cops is that there's no way they'll be able to talk their way out of this.

It doesn't matter if the cops lie (hah, I crack myself up, "if the cops lie") they still cannot explain why three of them were interrogating a minor.

They cannot deny the incident happened and no matter how innocuous they claim the conversation was, there is absolutely no way to explain away their conduct.

Same goes for the principal or whoever it was that had Kashuv pulled into the SRO office.

Posted by: blake at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (IlV2p)

238 Homeschool.

Posted by: Lauren at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (pLLah)

239 213 - I don't think this has much to do with liberals. This is a police problem. Police departments across the country are becoming increasingly detached from the communities they serve. They have developed an us-against-them paramilitary culture (going so far as to refer to non-cops as "civilians") that is completely at odds with service and protection.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (zoyKY)

240 This is not my beautiful wife.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (WDCYi)

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If Paulo had a peso each time Paulo this said

Posted by: The Paulo at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (PNcou)

241

I'm sure that kid is lying, and the po-po never ever touched his weiner or put their thingy in his hershy hole like grandpa used to do to me until I started to like it so he twinked me out to his perv buddies. Man I made a lot of money and bought a lot of meth. Now, the pesky anal leakage is a bit of a problem but the Anal Intruder 3000 my good buddy Anderson loaned me really helps hold it in. I wish Gramps was still here to blow me, he'd be so proud...

Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (UFLLM)

242 GLadOS, "The moose is a lie."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 02:17 PM (kX6Uw)

False.It's so delicious and moist.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (jjaLl)

243 199 This guy has got to stop antagonizing animals.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/22/man-bitten-by-shark-bear-snake-in-less-than-4-years/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:13 PM (39g3+)

shark-bear-snake >> man-bear-pig

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (Dp6qK)

244 The moose is in the lodge.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (5NMZN)

245 If Presdent Obama was still Presdent this would have not happened because people would love each more.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (qM84C)

246 If he asked to leave or have someone else present it is illegal detention.

Posted by: Marcus T, Avenger at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (VpIIl)

247

was this to solely intimidate and make a statement to other kids that might be in agreement?

Yes, it sure looks that way.

There was no reason for anyone to say anything to him for any reason.

NO LAW WAS BROKEN BY KYLE. Now the cops who interrogated him for no reason? That's completely different, as I hope the Kashuv's lawyers will inform them.

And if other people are upset at a harmless tweet, that's their problem. That is no excuse to harass or intimidate anyone.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 24, 2018 02:21 PM (GdWl+)

248 what the kid should do is go to the range again and post different pics that describe the difference between shooting a 9mm and a .45.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:21 PM (4ugnK)

249 "Every action meticulously planned for maximum propaganda value..."

And it would have worked too.

Except the kid was cool, calm, professional and polite under pressure.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2018 02:21 PM (EyPfd)

250 239 213 - I don't think this has much to do with liberals. This is a police problem. Police departments across the country are becoming increasingly detached from the communities they serve. They have developed an us-against-them paramilitary culture (going so far as to refer to non-cops as "civilians") that is completely at odds with service and protection.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (zoyKY)

Pensions and Unions are involved.

Therefore it has EVERYTHING to do with liberals.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 02:21 PM (WDCYi)

251 144 129 What was even the point of the interview, to intimidate him into not posting things on social media?Posted by: Bluedog at April 24, 2018 01:48 PM (zlT2P)

Yes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2018 02:03 PM (tpDAe)

That backfired a bit - went viral instead.
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2018 02:04 PM (7n4KQ)

These people don't think ahead of the next half-second.

Pretty much like goldfish I've had. We could call them Goldfish Liberals, in contrast to Goldwater Conservatives.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at April 24, 2018 02:21 PM (nvMvs)

252 The moose is loose!

Posted by: Justin Trudeau at April 24, 2018 02:21 PM (pAx+1)

253 By "gun safety" he means that if no one has guns people will be safe.

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (LiyEm)

I can't imagine what it must be like, to be a parent of a murdered child.

However... the impulse to turn one's personal grief into a political cause, this early after the death, strikes me as suspect.

Further, it is NOT uncommon for family of crime victims, or other tragedies, to view themselves as completely innocent, where any action they take must be considered morally defensible, because their loss is all-consuming. This of course is not true either.

So one or the other is likely in effect here. Or both.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2018 02:22 PM (9chmE)

254 False.It's so delicious and moist.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (jjaLl)

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This is the AoS blog. We do NOT do moose oral here. Go hang out at NRO.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2018 02:22 PM (PNcou)

255 What can you say. The county over the past 50 years has been thoroughly inundated with locusts from the North and is now firmly in Democrat hands. The best thing gun owners and Republicans can do is move and let them stew in their own juices.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 24, 2018 02:22 PM (mpXpK)

256 I had one in the back yard yesterday. He left his calling card, so to speak. Does that count?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 24, 2018 02:19 PM (7UW64)

Absolutely.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 02:22 PM (+lOpA)

257 Note to 2nd amendment kuds:
Always record these things. Better if you can do it with them unawares.

Posted by: Gaius Julius Caesar at April 24, 2018 02:22 PM (VqEyC)

258 237
The real stupidity by the cops is that there's no way they'll be able to talk their way out of this.

It doesn't matter if the cops lie (hah, I crack myself up, "if the
cops lie") they still cannot explain why three of them were
interrogating a minor.

They cannot deny the incident happened and no matter how innocuous
they claim the conversation was, there is absolutely no way to explain
away their conduct.

Same goes for the principal or whoever it was that had Kashuv pulled into the SRO office.

Posted by: blake at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (IlV2p)

Funny how the SRO turned into a bunch of goons so quickly. Seems to me, at least for that school, the School Board should ask them to leave. They keep F-ing everything up don't they?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 24, 2018 02:22 PM (ymnmz)

259 Police departments across the country are becoming increasingly detached from the communities they serve"

Wait - you saying that gubbmint workers see themselves as a "cut above"?

Get outta here. Really?

/

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (7LY+6)

260 Except goldfish don't have badges of authority, handguns, SWAT, and helicopters.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (kX6Uw)

261 So are moose a kind of weasel? Like the Broward County sheriff?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (RD7QR)

262 241 for crying out loud , was that necessary?

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (eaoOY)

263 Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (UFLLM)

What in the holy hell is that???

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (jjaLl)

264 He'd have been fine if he'd just been shooting a crossbow.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (PNcou)

265 9 I don't think the cops were following the law...at all. And would have had no problem "bringing me down to the station" for whatever charge they could whip up. They were already acting outside the law.

No, what I mean is that its easy to come up with the perfect smartass crack we'd say now at 29 years old, but at his age, alone, surrounded by big cops and school admins? Probably not going to be firing off witty rejoinders. He admits he was scared, and that's what they fully intended.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:18 PM (39g3+)

So, you are saying I'm talking a big game here, but at that age I would have been cowed into silence and manners. Well, yea. Of course. Although, in my day things were very different.

In today's day and age, if I had lived thru that school shooting, I may well have smarted off. Even back in my day I did some things that surprised even me. So put me in the current environment, and yea, I could see me smarting off, especially if I knew I had my parents backing. But we'll never know.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (xE5n0)

266 Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (zoyKY)

I agree but I haven't figured out the chicken or egg paradox.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (4ugnK)

267 What was even the point of the interview, to intimidate him into not posting things on social media?

Thats my read, that this was less about trying to get him to do something dumb than to get him to stop doing things smart. They want him to shut up and go away and are trying to terrify him into submission.

Kyle doesn't seem the kind to submit, though. I doubt the kneels to anyone but God.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:24 PM (39g3+)

268 People who are accustomed to deference and admiration don't deal will with losing that status. These BC thugs are in the same boat as Bill Kristol and Jonah and all the rest - they want their old lives back.

Sorry, y'all screwed the pooch.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at April 24, 2018 02:24 PM (ayHUi)

269 A moose bit my sister once.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 24, 2018 02:24 PM (7ZVPa)

270 This is the AoS blog. We do NOT do moose oral here. Go hang out at NRO.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2018 02:22 PM (PNcou)

Not a Portal fan, I take it?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:24 PM (jjaLl)

271 the impulse to turn one's personal grief into a political cause, this early after the death, strikes me as suspect. "

Indeed. Note the words used: "for those managing this twitter account" - that person assumes that all twatters are like his - "managed" by some 3rd party.

Hmmm.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 24, 2018 02:25 PM (7LY+6)

272 Keep pushing it, leftists.
Keep it up.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 24, 2018 02:10 PM (jWe5r)
**************

That's what this is all about. They are seeing just how far they can push the limits and get away with it. They have launched war against the Right and they won't stop until they take away our rights and abolish the Constitution.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2018 02:25 PM (PvFoN)

273 Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 02:19 PM (953wK)

It's necessary. Much as I support police officers stopping violent crimes and patrolling the streets, a blanket love for law enforcement (bootlicking to use an overused term) never goes in a good direction.

The fact is while there are many cops out there with good morals that do well by their communities who I support wholeheartedly, there are plenty of scum sucking bureaucrat bullies that wear the badge. Not hard to guess which one of the categories the cops in this story fall in.

It always pays to remember that while many police are good people, they look out for themselves first and foremost (as their union activities demonstrate) and you do not want to gamble on any of the ones you interact with being good people. Assume the worst for your own sake.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 24, 2018 02:25 PM (wwd4n)

274

Ohh, look, my medicines! Where have you been you little devils, haven't seen you for weeks...

Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:25 PM (UFLLM)

275 Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:20 PM (UFLLM)

What in the holy hell is that???
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (jjaLl)

He's a TROLL. Look at his other posts.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:25 PM (xE5n0)

276 I would just love it if this young man and as many friends as he could gather all went to the gun range this weekend and took more pictures of themselves learning real gun safety.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2018 02:26 PM (0tfLf)

277 Better if you can do it with them unawares.
_______________________________________

What do my unawares have to do with this issue?

Posted by: Maxine Waters at April 24, 2018 02:26 PM (ATVNj)

278 Serious question. I say "hey I'm recording now" and hold the phone out. They've been notified, and can either talk or not talk.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2018 01:59 PM (yL25O)
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cop grabs phone, turns it off, arrests kid.

phone gets "lost" in property room...

kid charged with everything they can think of, from illegal recording to resisting arrest/assault on a police officer.

prosecuted to full extent of the law, using all resources of the county. forced into a plea bargain which results in him becoming a prohibited person for life.

welcome to the Land of the Free

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 24, 2018 02:26 PM (osJAv)

279 267
What was even the point of the interview, to intimidate him into not posting things on social media?

Thats my read, that this was less about trying to get him to do
something dumb than to get him to stop doing things smart. They want
him to shut up and go away and are trying to terrify him into
submission.

Kyle doesn't seem the kind to submit, though. I doubt the kneels to anyone but God.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:24 PM (39g3+)

He should re-post the same picture with the caption.
This is the picture that got my constitutional rights violated by the Broward County Police.

Easy for me to say.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 24, 2018 02:26 PM (ymnmz)

280 Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (xE5n0)

I wouldn't have said a thing, I would have been terrified and I would be afraid of my parents.

This wouldn't have happened in my day, the boys had rifle racks in their trucks.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (2DYau)

281 Police, pulling a Child out of Class, to question him?

Without notifying his Parents?

Lawsuit Baby.... Lawsuit.

Posted by: Don Q. at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (NgKpN)

282 272. Nope. They won't stop until the hit the water or the ground.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (fA1SL)

283 265 In today's day and age, if I had lived thru that school shooting, I may well have smarted off. Even back in my day I did some things that surprised even me. So put me in the current environment, and yea, I could see me smarting off, especially if I knew I had my parents backing. But we'll never know.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (xE5n0)

I'd like to say I would have dropped a sick burn, but if I had, my father would have broken my legs.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (WDCYi)

284 They cannot deny the incident happened and no matter how innocuous
they claim the conversation was, there is absolutely no way to explain
away their conduct.

There's an easy way to do so, and I'm sure they will do it, with sneers about hypocrisy: we're following up on a social media incident involving one of our students and guns. You told us to do that, you said we should have with Cruz, so now we are doing it and you yell at us for it???

Of course its all BS and its blatant that Cruz and Kashuv are totally different cases, but that's the easy response and it will work with a lot of people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (39g3+)

285 I'm surprised TwitFace hasn't taken this down yet.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (xE5n0)

286 All Trolls are Average Joe

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (3dsTO)

287 He's a TROLL. Look at his other posts.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:25 PM (xE5n0)

Well, yeah, I know it's a troll, my question was, what the hell kind of troll it was..... not the typical one we see here....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (jjaLl)

288 I remember when kids went to a gun range, or fishing, or camping, or to a restaurant and did NOT post it on the web. And no one cared one way or the other, it wasn't their business.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:28 PM (n13/j)

289 Funny how the SRO turned into a bunch of goons so quickly. Seems to me, at least for that school, the School Board should ask them to leave. They keep F-ing everything up don't they?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 24, 2018 02:22 PM (ymnmz)

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I suspect the Broward cops have had a metric ton of crap come down on them so, they're trying to be a little more aggressive. But, as is to be expected by the demonstrably incompetent, the Sheriff's department handled this in the worst possible and most ham-fisted way.

Posted by: blake at April 24, 2018 02:28 PM (IlV2p)

290 205
Oh pro tip - never ask whether you "can record " something. Simply say: "By the way, I am recording this."

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (Fb9aZ)

Yes, let them stop you. Take a tip from lefties, then scream abuse.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:28 PM (o7tuA)

291 I see a lot of interest in wiretapping laws in this thread.

I wonder if one of the several lawyers on this blog would be so kind as to point to a primer or write something up.

Some questions I've seen:
1. Does an officer of the court in the course of their duties have to give consent to be recorded, or are their official actions always public record?

2. If you publicly announce you're recording, and that anyone who doesn't wish to be recorded can feel free to stop talking, are you now safe from two party consent laws?

3. Are there any other details we should know about recording audio in a two party consent state that we might need to know?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 02:28 PM (iv0p7)

292 Lawsuit Baby.... Lawsuit.

Posted by: Don Q. at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (NgKpN)

Shades of Clockboy??

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:28 PM (jjaLl)

293

Parkland Activist: Trump Calling Chuck Todd "Sleepy Eyes" Is Anti-Semitic

https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=382718

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2018 02:29 PM (IqV8l)

294 Shades of Clockboy??

Cool pic, Kyle. Want to come show it to us at the White House?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 24, 2018 02:29 PM (3dsTO)

295 So what quixotic crusade is Hogg on today?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 02:29 PM (kX6Uw)

296 If this kid lawyers up, he's going to be driving around in one of those Broward County Lamborghini cop cars. "Paging Tom Fitton, Tom Fitton, please pick up the nearest white courtesy phone..."

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 24, 2018 02:29 PM (ty7RM)

297 282 272. Nope. They won't stop until the hit the water or the ground.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (fA1SL)

Barron jokes aside, I don't see anybody taking the lead on this.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 02:29 PM (WDCYi)

298 214 Moose at the front should have told you.

The moose lies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018
*
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"Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!"

Posted by: Bullwinkle at April 24, 2018 02:29 PM (Tgext)

299 Well, yeah, I know it's a troll, my question was, what the hell kind of troll it was..... not the typical one we see here....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (jjaLl)

I think its morphrodite.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (o7tuA)

300 I'd like to say I would have dropped a sick burn, but if I had, my father would have broken my legs.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (WDCYi)

Are you my brother? I was taught to be respectful and I was also taught that you do what the officers tell you to do politely and if they are in the wrong you worry about it later. If you disobey an officer it won't end well.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (2DYau)

301 292.

Cool lawsuit, Kyle!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (fA1SL)

302 Never even touched a gun and already taught to index the trigger finger and why.

POLICE!!! HALP!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (OJg/1)

303 Saw my cousin a half hour before he blew his brains out. I was 15 years old and I never blamed Remington for what happened. These libs are using the "I am a victim and I am above reproach" bludgeon tactic. That shit is tiring.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (BItge)

304 Chuck Todd's a MoT?

I did not know that.

Toddberg? Toddstein?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (3dsTO)

305

*Insert something so beyond the pale outrageous here that even daywalkers finally figure out the troll is being trolled*

Sometimes I don't even know you people...

Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (UFLLM)

306 It always pays to remember that while many police are good people, they look out for themselves first and foremost (as their union activities demonstrate) and you do not want to gamble on any of the ones you interact with being good people.

Well, and they are guys doing a job. Its easy to get the impression that cops are doing sacred work fighting crime like a superhero, but they clock in and clock out and do a job just like you do. Its not a calling, its work. They're willing to cut corners to get the job done just like you are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (39g3+)

307 Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (jjaLl)

Reminds me of a caller on Savage once who was absolutely batshit. He threatened to kill himself on air and then started shouting about how everyone should eat their vegetables, then the call got cut off. Savage started screaming for the man to pick up the phone and actually sounded very concerned.

Caller was in SF of course.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (wwd4n)

308 DJT should invite him to the White House.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (FLifI)

309 This kid gets the third degree, and for what? He makes the sheriff look bad.

Someone needs to tell these people the Stash look is not a good one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (R12el)

310 bonhomme, i am not a laywer or a cop, but as their are 4 people there, i would think the cops wouldn't have a right to privacy re the kid?

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (eaoOY)

311 There used to be legal philosophy that if you required people to be disarmed you therefore became their protector. If you fucked that up you were liable. I guess that doesn't wash anymore.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (2LelM)

312
Camera Hogg says millions of law biding Americans are complicit in mass murder and he gets a free ride on The New England Patriots jet and a nice hotel room for the weekend.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (lKyWE)

313 297. Comes the hour, comes the man.

Remember - it was an unknown for a while which way Mi General was going to go, given that Allende appointed him.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (fA1SL)

314 Never, ever, ever, ever ask permission to record. JUST FUCKING DO IT.

Florida is a two party consent state, as is my home state of Washington.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 01:56 PM (iv0p7)

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I don't leave the house without a little $15 USB recorder from Amazon turned on.

It's there for your safety, because if I fear for my life or someone decides I eye-raped them, we can just play back the recording.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (OJg/1)

315 200 179
Point taken VIA.

Posted by: Northernlurker in the mountains at April 24, 2018 02:10 PM (sILsL)

your point was excellent too Northernlurker.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:14 PM (o7tuA)

Jesus, get a room you two.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (NWiLs)

316 Chuck Todd's a MoT? "

Ministry of Transportation?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (7LY+6)

317 You made people feel threatened! You gave up your rights!

Posted by: Clock Boy at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (FLifI)

318 272
They have launched war against the Right and they won't stop until they take away our rights and abolish the Constitution.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2018 02:25 PM (PvFoN)

If they succeed in taking away our rights and abolishing the Constitution, they'll only just be getting started.

Posted by: rickl at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (xjiRE)

319 Maybe someone should remake the Magnificent Seven but have them ride into Parkland HS and protect the peons.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (2LelM)

320 @241. Cleanup needed. We can haz BanHammer?

Posted by: USMC8541 at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (NmR1a)

321 I remember when kids went to a gun range, or fishing, or camping, or to a restaurant and did NOT post it on the web.

*pulls up chair*

Tell us about the time before electricity.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (iv0p7)

322
Jesus, get a room you two.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (NWiLs)

You are Such an asshole. Lol!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (o7tuA)

323

Saw my cousin a half hour before he blew his brains out. I was 15 years old and I never blamed Remington for what happened. These libs are using the "I am a victim and I am above reproach" bludgeon tactic. That shit is tiring.

We've probably all lost friends in car accidents and never thought to blame AAA.
Because we're sane like that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (GdWl+)

324 309 This kid gets the third degree, and for what? He makes the sheriff look bad.

Someone needs to tell these people the Stash look is not a good one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (R12el)

Bolton's stash would like a word with you.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (Dp6qK)

325 "I asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, 'Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?'"

One word: Sue.

He, a minor, is being harassed and intimidated (and dare I say violated) for no offense and without parents or attorney.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (H8S+R)

326 305

*Insert something so beyond the pale outrageous here that even daywalkers finally figure out the troll is being trolled*

Sometimes I don't even know you people...

Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (UFLLM)

I see you are playing 11 dimensional space checkers with us.

LOL

Code word- Scooch in the pooch. Repeat. Scooch in the pooch.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (ymnmz)

327 There used to be legal philosophy that if you required people to be disarmed you therefore became their protector. If you fucked that up you were liable. I guess that doesn't wash anymore.
Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (2LelM)

That doctrine presupposes a sense of responsibility on the part of the "protectors" which, from appearances, the Broward County Sheriff's Office is totally, utterly devoid.

Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (953wK)

328 This story has gotten under my skin like few others. This cannot stand. Someone needs to be fired or sued.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (H8QX8)

329 Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:23 PM (xE5n0)

I wouldn't have said a thing, I would have been terrified and I would be afraid of my parents.

This wouldn't have happened in my day, the boys had rifle racks in their trucks.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 24, 2018 02:27 PM (2DYau)

Oh gawd, yes, back in the day I would have been the same. My parents would have sided with the cops most likely. But our cops were not like these asshats. At all.

In today's environment, things are different. And I may well have said something, if I got pissed off enough. After my schoolmates had been slaughtered. And some of the things that kid said the cops said, would have done it.

Maybe not as great as what I posted, but something more along the lines of "do you all like intimidating a teenager? Feel powerful?"

I've been surprised about some of the stuff I've done and said in my life. Like my brain and mouth have a will of their own sometimes.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (xE5n0)

330 There was a time when acting deferential to the police in all matters was the right thing to do. That was back when they, generally, tried to serve and protect something other than their pension.

The police are out to pad the stat sheets. You will be a number on those stat sheets if you just lay back and cooperate.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (wGbBR)

331 Stash=Stazi

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (R12el)

332 There used to be legal philosophy that if you required people to be disarmed you therefore became their protector.

And before that, it was a moral principle called Noblesse Oblige. You have a responsibility to protect the people you lord over.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (39g3+)

333 They're willing to cut corners to get the job done just like you are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:30 PM (39g3+)

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.

Posted by: A Brian Surgeon at April 24, 2018 02:34 PM (jjaLl)

334

Roger Scootch in the Pooch. Pasta Violet. Pasta Violet.

Posted by: HeHateMe at April 24, 2018 02:34 PM (UFLLM)

335 321
I remember when kids went to a gun range, or fishing, or camping, or to a restaurant and did NOT post it on the web.

*pulls up chair*

Tell us about the time before electricity.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (iv0p7)

You might be surprised, there was actually some space in between.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:34 PM (n13/j)

336 Still waiting for J Goldberg to offer a resounding defence of this followed by a series of tweets to J Tapper, asking why hasn't he made this a story yet.

Much the same way Goldberg lead in the resounding defense of Lauren Southern when she was detained in the UK.

Posted by: Blanco at April 24, 2018 02:34 PM (QGdDN)

337 328 This story has gotten under my skin like few others. This cannot stand. Someone needs to be fired or sued.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (H8QX

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As a wise pundit once said, "embrace the healing power of 'and.'"

Posted by: blake at April 24, 2018 02:34 PM (IlV2p)

338 As I said earlier, I hope that if Kyle ever runs for office one day, I'll still be alive to vote for him.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 24, 2018 02:34 PM (hMwEB)

339
Parkland Activist: Trump Calling Chuck Todd "Sleepy Eyes" Is Anti-Semitic

Old and busted: Hook Nose

New and hot: Sleepy Eyes

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 24, 2018 02:34 PM (lKyWE)

340 331 Stash=Stazi

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (R12el)

Now you're really angering The 'Stache

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 24, 2018 02:35 PM (Dp6qK)

341 so he can be harassed for twittering a comment and a picture of his learning to use tools stated as right*s that are still applicable as far as i know .

Yet we have miles and miles of actual threats -riots, clearly espousing murdering people, such as jews, cops, Christians and those aren't threats just speech.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:35 PM (eaoOY)

342 I've been surprised about some of the stuff I've done and said in my life. Like my brain and mouth have a will of their own sometimes.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (xE5n0)

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Yeah, I've had more than a few times the old mouth filter didn't engage, much to my dismay.

Posted by: blake at April 24, 2018 02:35 PM (IlV2p)

343 They have launched war against the Right and they won't stop until they take away our rights and abolish the Constitution.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2018 02:25 PM (PvFoN)

If they succeed in taking away our rights and abolishing the Constitution, they'll only just be getting started.
Posted by: rickl

Talk about starting the war.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:35 PM (pQplJ)

344 Camera Hogg says millions of law biding Americans
are complicit in mass murder and he gets a free ride on The New England
Patriots jet and a nice hotel room for the weekend.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (lKyWE)

You take that back! You take that back, and admit you made that shit up, and you do it right now!!!!!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 02:36 PM (jjaLl)

345 I've been surprised about some of the stuff I've done and said in my life. Like my brain and mouth have a will of their own sometimes.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (xE5n0)

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Yeah, I've had more than a few times the old mouth filter didn't engage, much to my dismay.
Posted by: blake

Bery recently, too.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:36 PM (pQplJ)

346 asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, 'Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?'"

"Ya mean when you all hid outside as my classmates were slaughtered? Yea, I remember that."

See, that's the direction my smartassery would take. Agreeing with them and insulting them at the same time. BUt only if I knew I had my parents backing and the police were outta line.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:36 PM (xE5n0)

347 I've been surprised about some of the stuff I've done and said in my life. Like my brain and mouth have a will of their own sometimes.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (xE5n0)

My mother worked at the police station, I definitely would have started crying and asking for my mom.

Now, being 29 I would hope I would say something but I think I would be scared.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 24, 2018 02:36 PM (2DYau)

348 342
I've been surprised about some of the stuff I've done and said in my
life. Like my brain and mouth have a will of their own sometimes.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:33 PM (xE5n0)

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Yeah, I've had more than a few times the old mouth filter didn't engage, much to my dismay.

Posted by: blake at April 24, 2018 02:35 PM (IlV2p)

This is really all about me isn't it...oh or Insomniac. yeah, Insomniac.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:36 PM (o7tuA)

349 Kyle: Went to the range and all I got was this stupid lawsuit.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (KXEpd)

350 Ordered my Pinochet helicopter tours t-shirt yesterday. Probably should send one to Kyle Kashuv.

Posted by: free tibet at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (3mbGq)

351 Not your day UFLLM.

Might as well give up.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (+lOpA)

352 I was treated like a criminal for no reason other than having gone to the gun range and posted on social media about it.

Kid, you were treated like a criminal because you have publicly called out the Broward County Sheriff's Department for their incompetence.

You embarrassed the cops. Now, they're trying to show you who's boss.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (O7MnT)

353 Golden Rule #1: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Golden Rule #2: Never start a fight, but always finish one.

Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (953wK)

354 The troll was much better and less annoying than the counter-troll. That is an accomplishment.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (5NMZN)

355 I don't leave the house without a little $15 USB recorder from Amazon turned on.

It's there for your safety, because if I fear for my life or someone decides I eye-raped them, we can just play back the recording.

I don't leave home without my $300 Transcend DrivePro Body 30 1080p Body Camera.

64GB storage
6 axis image stabalization
H.264 image compression

It's tha bomb, baby!

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (iv0p7)

356 Also, cops who won't protect kids and actively prevent kids from learning to protect themselves is Coward County PD indeed.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (hMwEB)

357 they won't stop until they take away our rights and abolish the Constitution. "

In other words, many wish a return to the historical norms of human existence.

"Lord G*d, give us a King"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (7LY+6)

358 Wait sleepy eyes is code for joos?!?! Have to load up on those energy drinks guys.

Nothing says Good Christian like tweaker eyes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (R12el)

359 See, that's the direction my smartassery would take. Agreeing with them and insulting them at the same time. BUt only if I knew I had my parents backing and the police were outta line.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:36 PM (xE5n0)

That's an awesome comeback but I wouldn't think about it until 30 minutes later. I'm not that quick.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 24, 2018 02:38 PM (2DYau)

360 This is really all about me isn't it...oh or Insomniac. yeah, Insomniac.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:36 PM (o7tuA)

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"In many ways, this is the story of the Horde."

Posted by: blake at April 24, 2018 02:38 PM (IlV2p)

361 i wouldn't want to be a cop these days. what's the point? (one of my kids is contemplating it)
training- sensitivity sessions. If you act at all, everyone hates you, If you don't act at all everyone hates you.

stick to fireman might be the right choice

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:38 PM (eaoOY)

362 I remember when kids went to a gun range, or fishing, or camping, or to a restaurant and did NOT post it on the web.

We just went to school and bragged to all the Losers that didn't go.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:38 PM (pQplJ)

363 Ok I gotta do something.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 02:38 PM (o7tuA)

364 310 bonhomme, i am not a laywer or a cop, but as their are 4 people there, i would think the cops wouldn't have a right to privacy re the kid?
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:31 PM (eaoOY)

The case law I am aware of generally holds that LEOs do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy while engaged in their official duties, and that the first amendment generally protects the video and audio recording of LEOs in that context. Using wiretapping statutes to prosecute cop watchers was a bullshit intimidation tactic anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:38 PM (NWiLs)

365 352. You know the score, pal! If you're not cops, you're little people. - Captn Bryan.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 02:39 PM (fA1SL)

366 Broward County is Cook County with better weather and roads.

Posted by: mrtmz at April 24, 2018 02:39 PM (m/Gc2)

367 Nude, BTW.

Wait, whut?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 24, 2018 02:39 PM (7LY+6)

368 Enforcement Act of 1870

And be it further enacted, That if two or more persons shall band or conspire together, or go in disguise upon the public highway, or upon the premises of another, with intent to violate any provision of this act, or to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any citizen with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise and enjoyment of any right or privilege granted or secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having exercised the same, such persons shall be held guilty of felony,

Posted by: Don Q. at April 24, 2018 02:39 PM (NgKpN)

369 adding, you are always at the mercy of who heads the dept. and their political menace.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2018 02:39 PM (eaoOY)

370 I see a lot of people saying "sue" and claiming constitutional rights were violated, but I don't see any basis for that. Cops leaning on someone isn't a violation of rights, being called in as a kid to the principals office to explain something you did isn't a violation of any rights.

The problem here isn't what they did but rather why they did it. The motivation is the issue. I'm all for a kid being hauled up to talk to the man if he's posting crazy stuff on the internet. Maybe if they'd done that with Cruz, he might have been stopped.

What they did, though, was to shut up a kid who is making them look bad and who won't conform. Their reasoning is wrong, their motivation is suspect, not their actions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:39 PM (39g3+)

371 I don't leave home without my $300 Transcend DrivePro Body 30 1080p Body Camera.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 02:37 PM (iv0p7)

Looks pretty sharp.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 24, 2018 02:40 PM (Dp6qK)

372 You might be surprised, there was actually some space in between.

Just giving you a hard time.

Or as they said in your day, "giving you the business".

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 02:40 PM (iv0p7)

373 New thread is up

Posted by: CA Token at April 24, 2018 02:41 PM (6wgM9)

374 But all the officers got home safely.
Only one dog was shot.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 24, 2018 02:41 PM (FLifI)

375 What they did, though, was to shut up a kid who is making them look bad and who won't conform. Their reasoning is wrong, their motivation is suspect, not their actions.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:39 PM (39g3+)

Ding ding ding.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 24, 2018 02:41 PM (2DYau)

376 I see a lot of people saying "sue" and claiming constitutional rights were violated, but I don't see any basis for that. Cops leaning on someone isn't a violation of rights,

Is when they are a minor.

Minors can't give consent. Can't consent to giving a blow job, can't consent to being questioned by the law.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:42 PM (pQplJ)

377 370 I see a lot of people saying "sue" and claiming
constitutional rights were violated, but I don't see any basis for that.
Cops leaning on someone isn't a violation of rights, being called in
as a kid to the principals office to explain something you did isn't a
violation of any rights.

The problem here isn't what they did but rather why they did it.
The motivation is the issue. I'm all for a kid being hauled up to
talk to the man if he's posting crazy stuff on the internet. Maybe if
they'd done that with Cruz, he might have been stopped.

What they did, though, was to shut up a kid who is making them look
bad and who won't conform. Their reasoning is wrong, their motivation
is suspect, not their actions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:39 PM (39g3+)

I tend to agree with a lot you said here but in the end I come to the other conclusion. If their reasoning is wrong, does not that de facto make the actions wrong?

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:42 PM (n13/j)

378 Kid, you were treated like a criminal because you have publicly called out the Broward County Sheriff's Department for their incompetence.

Exactimundo, as Fonzy would say.

They didn't like being raked over the coals for their sloth, incompetence, and failure to do their duty by some snot nosed kid and were gonna make him pay for it by abusing a reasonable policy.

Wait sleepy eyes is code for joos?!?! Have to load up on those energy drinks guys.

One of the most spectacularly idiotic attempts by a leftist to brand Trump anti Semite. Someone on Twitter pulled up the actual writings by Nazis about Jews and told this idiot what they really said (wide, staring eyes, not sleepy) and... she blocked him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:42 PM (39g3+)

379 I don't leave home without my $300 Transcend DrivePro Body 30 1080p Body Camera.

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oooohh...

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at April 24, 2018 02:43 PM (OJg/1)

380 Minors can't give consent. Can't consent to giving a blow job, can't consent to being questioned by the law.

No one has to "consent" to being questioned by the police.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:43 PM (39g3+)

381 370 I see a lot of people saying "sue" and claiming constitutional rights were violated, but I don't see any basis for that. Cops leaning on someone isn't a violation of rights, being called in as a kid to the principals office to explain something you did isn't a violation of any rights.

The problem here isn't what they did but rather why they did it. The motivation is the issue. I'm all for a kid being hauled up to talk to the man if he's posting crazy stuff on the internet. Maybe if they'd done that with Cruz, he might have been stopped.

What they did, though, was to shut up a kid who is making them look bad and who won't conform. Their reasoning is wrong, their motivation is suspect, not their actions.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018
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Maybe not. But if Kyle's father brings a lawyer into this, it might give future harassers pause.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2018 02:43 PM (Tgext)

382
Damn, these motherfuckers make my blood boil. The whole sick mentality they've adopted of trying to criminalize the CIVIL RIGHT of self defense is beyond disgusting.

But Kashuv has some moxy though. They were afraid to let him record the conversation. But he turned around and reported their craven police-state tactics anyway.
I wonder if any those big, tough, gun-armed men would even publicly admit they were in the same room interrogating this teenager who dared questioned their authority.
Yeah, they're some kind of brave, alright. They stood up against an unarmed teenage high school student to make sure the public wouldn't hear how they ganged up to interrogate him. Vintage Paladin Knights, these fucks.

Posted by: Cold Civil War at April 24, 2018 02:43 PM (Z2PYk)

383 I wonder if the NRA is aware of this story and could recommend a good lawyer...maybe even pro bono.

There was a day, not too long ago, I would have called them and talked about it. But I don't do that anymore. *zip it*

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:43 PM (xE5n0)

384 The problem here isn't what they did but rather why they did it.

The motivation is the issue.

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I'm not even an internet lawyer, but it almost seems like they'd need some sort of reason to drag him out of class.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at April 24, 2018 02:43 PM (OJg/1)

385 370 - And therein lies the problem. So long as cops are violating people's rights, treating them like prisoners who must appear and answer their questions about lawful activities on demand, but for the "right" reasons, conservatives will okay it.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at April 24, 2018 02:44 PM (zoyKY)

386 Yeah, I've had more than a few times the old mouth filter didn't engage, much to my dismay.

Posted by: blake at April 24, 2018 02:35 PM (IlV2p)

What filter???

*hic*

Posted by: HillBilly at April 24, 2018 02:44 PM (7UW64)

387 372 - You might be surprised, there was actually some space in between.

Just giving you a hard time.

Or as they said in your day, "giving you the business".

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 02:40 PM (iv0p7)

Why You...!

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:44 PM (n13/j)

388 If the political roles here were reversed then we would immediately find out:

Who were all three of these cops? Full names and spouses.
Where do they go to church? (or more likely their Moloch shrine)
Do their kids attend this school? If not where?
Let's leak their tax returns, real estate holdings and 401k portfolios.
What about a credit report or the cars they drive?
And everything even remotely embarrassing they ever posted online with zero context to make it seem extra crazy.

All thanks to the MSM.

But because the right doesn't have any hired MSM goons. These evil basterds will remain semi-anonomous.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at April 24, 2018 02:44 PM (t7aa8)

389 I remember when kids went to a gun range, or fishing, or camping, or to a restaurant and did NOT post it on the web.

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*pulls up chair*

Tell us about the time before electricity.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2018 02:32 PM (iv0p7)

You might be surprised, there was actually some space in between.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:34 PM (n13/j)

I can see a Monty Python skit coming on...

But seriously, of course we don't live in that world anymore. And yet still, I do think there's some caution warranted, regarding young Mr. Kashuv. I wouldn't be shocked to find out he's another narcissist, exploiting this situation for his own aggrandizement.

I'm not saying I THINK that's what is happening here, just that it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2018 02:45 PM (9chmE)

390 I tend to agree with a lot you said here but in the end I come to the other conclusion. If their reasoning is wrong, does not that de facto make the actions wrong?

In that sense, yes, but the policy of pulling in kids to talk to them when they are acting odd on social media is a good one. The technique is valid. Nothing about it was unconstitutional nor did it violate any rights to do so.

Children are unable to consent to a lot of things (and teen agers), but they're also presumed to be under authority, particularly while in school. That authority has the power to talk to them when they deem it necessary or when the child is in violation of some rule or code.

Thus, the action was an abuse of this power, but not in its self wrong, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:45 PM (39g3+)

391 There is a certain amount of wisdom in to not converting yourself in to a lightning rod.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 24, 2018 02:46 PM (w7KSn)

392 Minors can't give consent. Can't consent to giving a blow job, can't consent to being questioned by the law.

No one has to "consent" to being questioned by the police.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor a

If you are not under arrest, yes, yes you do.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:46 PM (pQplJ)

393 The Broward Cowards don't like confronting criminals with guns. They make up for it by getting tough with law-abiding ~~citizens~~ kids with guns.

FIFY

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 24, 2018 02:46 PM (X8DLV)

394 I'm not even an internet lawyer, but it almost seems like they'd need some sort of reason to drag him out of class.

If this went to court, I'm confident they would argue that they had a student posing with guns on the internet and felt it was wise to talk to him about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:47 PM (39g3+)

395 If you are not under arrest, yes, yes you do.

As I undestand it, the police have the power to question people in an investigation, or if they have reasonable cause to believe something illegal is taking place. That is not subject to your consent. You may insist upon a legal representative being present, but you may not refuse their power to question you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)

396 This was effectively a custodial interrogation without being Mirandized or having a lawyer present. They even admitted they had no reason to detain him. There is a pretty decent case to make that they violated his civil rights, and Kashuv should sue their shriveled little balls off.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:49 PM (NWiLs)

397 Monk: "Always record encounters with agents of the state. Always."

This, if possible. They are never your friends. They are doing a job. Most of it isn't personal. Sometimes, it is. It's those times you need the best defense. Unfortunately, you never know when it is "personal" and when it is routine. So try to be prepared and always keep up your defense to the best of your ability. And try to pre-plan your actions in your mind so that you don't panic when the State proxies target you.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 02:50 PM (H8S+R)

398 If this went to court, I'm confident they would argue that they had a student posing with guns on the internet and felt it was wise to talk to him about it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

With his father AND a trained professional.
And they will lose in court. Bigly.
Because there was nothing illegal. And he was under adult supervision.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:50 PM (pQplJ)

399 That's an awesome comeback but I wouldn't think about it until 30 minutes later. I'm not that quick.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 24, 2018 02:38 PM (2DYau)

It would happen if I was pissed. Not a smartass unless pissed off or tired. A different part of my brain engages. It is impossible to know, of course, things are so different today. But like you, in the past, no way I'd say anything. But today, I think I'd still be pissed my classmates were killed, and that may engage my smartass gene.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 02:50 PM (xE5n0)

400 As I undestand it, the police have the power to question people in an investigation, or if they have reasonable cause to believe something illegal is taking place. That is not subject to your consent. You may insist upon a legal representative being present, but you may not refuse their power to question you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)

Dude...Fifth Amendment. Ever hear of it?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:50 PM (NWiLs)

401 Sue them into Oblivion.

Posted by: James Mora at April 24, 2018 02:51 PM (YjduJ)

402 154
Yep. Today is going to be leg day....again.

Posted by: Monk at April 24, 2018 02:06 PM (J567a)

Help spread the word!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 24, 2018 02:51 PM (jxbfJ)

403 Comey Rule in effect. Never talk to cops.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:52 PM (2LelM)

404 As I undestand it, the police have the power to question people in an investigation, or if they have reasonable cause to believe something illegal is taking place.

But NOT a minor. Not without a parent or attorney present.

And there was nothing illegal taking place. He was under adult supervision at the range.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:52 PM (pQplJ)

405 Jim Acosta, tired of being treated like an idiot, tries to downgrade into sub-retard IQ territory:

"The problem is that people around the country don't know it's an act," the reporter said. "They're not in on the act, and they take what he says very seriously, and they take attacks from [former White House press secretary] Sean Spicer and Sarah Sanders and what they do to us on a daily basis very seriously. They don't have all their faculties in some cases -- their elevator might not hit all floors."

http://tinyurl.com/ycwefg37

Yes, I'm sure mocking and attacking voters as knuckle dragging idiots is sure to make reporters more safe.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)

406 You may insist upon a legal representative being present, but you may not refuse their power to question you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)
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Questions are fine. The expectation of an answer is not. Comey Rule followed by Hillary Rule - I do not recollect.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 02:53 PM (2LelM)

407 390 I tend to agree with a lot you said here but in
the end I come to the other conclusion. If their reasoning is wrong,
does not that de facto make the actions wrong?

In that sense, yes, but the policy of pulling in kids to talk to
them when they are acting odd on social media is a good one. The
technique is valid. Nothing about it was unconstitutional nor did it
violate any rights to do so.

Children are unable to consent to a lot of things (and teen agers),
but they're also presumed to be under authority, particularly while in
school. That authority has the power to talk to them when they deem it
necessary or when the child is in violation of some rule or code.

Thus, the action was an abuse of this power, but not in its self wrong, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:45 PM (39g3+)

I hear ya Chris. I know in my day when we were called to the principals office we went. I just could not imagine growing up now with social media. We would never want the principal or teachers to know what we were doing or thinking out of their eyesight lol.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:53 PM (n13/j)

408 the whole privacy vs sharing bar has moved quite a bit to say the least.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:54 PM (n13/j)

409 Dude...Fifth Amendment. Ever hear of it?

Which part of this applies:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:55 PM (39g3+)

410 Questions are fine. The expectation of an answer is not.

Right, they do not have the power to make you answer. They can intimidate and cajole or trick you, but they cannot make you answer, legally and by your rights. You have the right to refuse to say anything (and if you're smart, you will take advantage of that right).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 02:56 PM (39g3+)

411 They knew he wasn't a threat. Weren't hiding behind cars now, were they...

Posted by: Dandor the Realanator at April 24, 2018 02:57 PM (RB9uO)

412 Which part of this applies:

I can't believe you're asking this. "nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself" Also colloquially known as the right against self-incrimination. It's where we get the whole right to remain silent part of the Miranda warning from.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:57 PM (NWiLs)

413 404 As I undestand it, the police have the power to
question people in an investigation, or if they have reasonable cause to
believe something illegal is taking place.

But NOT a minor. Not without a parent or attorney present.

And there was nothing illegal taking place. He was under adult supervision at the range.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 02:52 PM (pQplJ)

I haven't looked into this other than a quick read of Ace's post, and I don't plan on doing so. But I think the question here is whether these people were acting as police or school personnel. I think they were out of line because it did not happen in the school, but times have changed. People get called out for social media all the time, it is de rigueur.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:57 PM (n13/j)

414 and no I don't think he did anything wrong. I would question putting it on the web not for content but for the kids personal privacy, but that is just me.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 02:59 PM (n13/j)

415 Which part of this applies:

I can't believe you're asking this. "nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself" Also colloquially known as the right against self-incrimination. It's where we get the whole right to remain silent part of the Miranda warning from.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 02:57 PM (NWiLs)

Actually, I think the cops began to trod upon shaky ground with the part about "nor be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law" when they went beyond asking him for the background story behind his tweet.

Very shaky, possibly quicksandy ground.

Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 03:00 PM (953wK)

416 Gutless yellow asswipes gotta gutless asswipe.

Posted by: maddogg at April 24, 2018 03:00 PM (ZOlfu)

417 I can't believe you're asking this. "nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself" Also colloquially known as the right against self-incrimination. It's where we get the whole right to remain silent part of the Miranda warning from.

He wasn't compelled to do any such thing. he was asked, and could choose to answer or not. There was no penalty for not answering, any more than in court if someone asks. If the Mob Boss is asked if he ordered his boys to kill Jimmy "slats" Jacuzzi, and he answers, nobody has violated his constitutional rights.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 03:02 PM (39g3+)

418 Discussing Miranda or the Fifth Anendment is pointless. If a person doesn't get on a gut level that 3 officers hauling a kid into a room to question him about a facially legal activity is outrageous, no amount of law-talk is going to make a difference. Some "conservatives" are authoritarians.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at April 24, 2018 03:08 PM (zoyKY)

419 Kyles mistake was talking to them. His 2nd mistake was not walking out. His 3rd mistake was not calling his father.

Never talk to cops. Especially when they're being dickish.

Posted by: jakee308 at April 24, 2018 03:09 PM (z96ye)

420 He was unlawfully detained and subjected to a custodial interrogation without being advised of his rights. This is a clear violation of the Fifth Amendment under longstanding SCOTUS precedent. Just because you don't get beaten with a rubber hose doesn't make it legally kosher.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 03:11 PM (FISVQ)

421 418 Discussing Miranda or the Fifth Anendment is pointless. If a person doesn't get on a gut level that 3 officers hauling a kid into a room to question him about a facially legal activity is outrageous, no amount of law-talk is going to make a difference. Some "conservatives" are authoritarians.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at April 24, 2018 03:08 PM (zoyKY)

Unfortunately yes. And it bothers me to no end.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 03:14 PM (FISVQ)

422 My plan.

"Officer, before I talk to you I need to check with my law firm, the Horde, for advice. They have to let me do this right?"

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:22 PM (xE5n0)

423 Just remember, kids,

"I know you are but what am I" is ALWAYS an avaliable response to any question from law enforcement.

Not saying it's a GOOD response, mind you . . .

Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 03:25 PM (953wK)

424 This is beyond outrageous. After they started in with their interrogation, what would have happened if he had just got up and walked out? Would they have forcibly detained him?

Shame on all of them. They have blood on their hands.

Posted by: Cheri at April 24, 2018 03:26 PM (oiNtH)

425 These are the LE that were hired wholesale during the last 8 years

Posted by: Bbz at April 24, 2018 03:26 PM (6qLDQ)

426 I hope Kyle's Dad winds up OWNING that danged school when the lawsuits are done!!!

(mumble mumble jack booted friggin THUGS!!)

Posted by: Katfish at April 24, 2018 03:27 PM (WQKoE)

427 One said, "Don't get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?"

Well yes Officer, we all do. While kids were being slaughtered, you pussies hid outside and then tried to lie about it.

Posted by: Cheri at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (oiNtH)

428 This is a small example why Trump needs to take violations of civil rights under color of law very seriously and issue policy for DoJ to aggressively pursue and prosecute even the shadow of civil rights violations with a pre-emptive goal (not slam dunk successful prosecutions) of making power hungry civil servants think before they harass people for being free.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 24, 2018 03:32 PM (Eu5eZ)

429 It wasn't his going to the range. It was his "memorializing" it on social media, where his enemies, Hogg and Sinead Gonzales and the others could view it, and wearing their victimhood shawls, rat him out for violence upon their persons.

It is where we are. Our words are violent threats to them, and we must be silenced by the armed agents of the state.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 24, 2018 03:32 PM (wcgxu)

430 The police are happy to be stormtroopers for the left so long as there is a steady paycheck and a pension in it. See also: Wisconsin "John Doe" campaign finance investigations.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (toi7g)

431 > do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?"

Why, yes I do as a matter of fact! I was being shot at by the nutjob you refused to kick out of school or report to police, while you guys were all safely hiding in the parking lot. How could I possibly forget THAT?

Posted by: Spamf Roming at April 24, 2018 04:15 PM (l+MMl)

432 Makes sense. They are right on top of anyone who is a threat ... to their narrative.

Posted by: George LeS at April 24, 2018 04:30 PM (/ki+X)

433 Back when I was in high school, I regularly went to the shooting range WITH one of the city police officers who invited me along when he went, which was fantastic as all the ammunition was provided by the department.

R.I.P. Officer Johnson wish we had more like you today.

Posted by: thecoat at April 24, 2018 04:42 PM (j3QJG)

434 298 "... no doubt about it. I've got to get another hat!"

Posted by: Bullwinkle at April 24, 2018 05:14 PM (W3KUE)

435 Broward County "police" have no shame.

Posted by: Yonason at April 24, 2018 06:22 PM (EIUgY)

436 The link didn't take...

435
Broward County "police" have no shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgZyNrbTuuw

Posted by: Yonason at April 24, 2018 06:23 PM (EIUgY)

437 Remember: we are to worship the police. The police are always right and are completely above criticism.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at April 24, 2018 08:58 PM (/rbea)

438 " Do you remember what happened here?" Yes, you hid in the parking lot while students were murdered. If I was a real threat you would be hiding out there again.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at April 24, 2018 11:11 PM (pN3as)

439 Every child in Broward County should tweet range videos to the Broward County police. Flood the system.

Posted by: Mr_Fastbucks at April 25, 2018 01:25 AM (4xZi9)

440 Make the taxpayers pay for their stupidity.

Posted by: Noovuss at April 25, 2018 06:29 AM (LSOWG)

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