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Darkly Conspiratorial Hillary Clinton: "I Knew They Would Never Let Me Be President"

This is a woman, you'll remember, who prized aides like Sidney Blumenthal who would play to and confirm her conspiratorial fantasies.

The NYT reporter who covered Hillary for a decade, Amy Chozick, shares some insights into the woman who fell from grace stairs.

This from a Washington Post review of her book, Chasing Hillary.

She contends that sexism played a big role in Clinton’s defeat but also encounters it first-hand among Clinton’s campaign staff....

When Chozick zeroes in on Clinton and leaves herself out of it, she can be perceptive, pithy and surprising. On Clinton's apparent disdain for the electoral process: "If there was a single unifying force behind her candidacy, it was her obvious desire to get the whole thing over with." On Clinton's ambition: "Her only clear vision of the presidency seemed to be herself in it."

...

And even on Clinton's proclivities: "For all the lesbian theories, Hillary enjoys nothing more than flirting with a handsome, preferably straight man." (Despite aggressively questioning Clinton about her e-mails, Ed Henry became a favorite: "She would regularly look past her almost entirely female press corps to call on the Fox News correspondent, with his cherub cheeks and Pucci pocket squares.")

...

I've noticed this about some "alpha" women who have queen bee tendencies: They're kinda sexist against other women. Maybe it's that they feel other women are competitors on the specific playing field of Who Is The Queeniest of Queen Bee in a way men are not/cannot be -- men are competing in another division entirely, as in college sports -- but power-seeking women often are fixated on a Lonely Victory -- they want to be the woman in charge. They don't want other women tagging along to share the Female Empowerment Spotlight.

This is fun:

"Chasing Hillary" offers some searing moments surrounding election night, as when the Clinton team's data guru grasps that his Florida models were off (Latino turnout lower than expected, white turnout huge in the Panhandle), then turns to campaign manager Robby Mook and says, they could be wrong everywhere."

I'm at full staff.

Mook eventually delivers the news of impending defeat to Clinton. "I knew it. I knew this would happen to me,” she answers. "They were never going to let me be president."

For those who still say Trump is psychologically unfit to be president, I say: Well, okay, but compared to whom?

The only other candidate in the race who could actually win was a woman with a long history of corruption and conspiracy-thinking, who walked around with a literal Enemies List and actually rated people on that list, from one to seven (if memory serves) as far as how betrayish she felt they were.


The next day, Times reporters consider what they'd missed -- and why. "God, I didn't go to a single Hillary or Trump rally," a colleague of Chozick's admits, "and yet, I wrote with such authority."

You've got your Dunning in my Kruger! Mmm-- two incompetent tastes that taste even more incompetent together!!!

Now come the parts about the sexism of Hillary's male staff, towards women.

Chozik only refers to these Guys by nicknames -- Broan Loafers Guy, Policy Guy. Cutesy stuff like that.

The most "loathsome" is the one she calls "Original Guy," "the longest-serving Svengali and the most-devoted member of Hillary’s court of flattering men."

She later reveals this "loathsome" creature to be Philippe Reines.

They ask if there are any other Times reporters, preferably male, that they could talk to instead of her....

The undercurrent of sexism spills over when Chozick and Original Guy spar over whether a prior conversation can go on the record, and he randomly paraphrases a crude line from "Thank You for Smoking," a 2005 film in which a reporter sleeps with a lobbyist for information. "I didn't know I had to say it was off the record when I was inside you," Original Guy smirks. (“"he words hung there," Chozick recalls, "so grossly gynecological.")

Chozick doesn’t name him but later cites a Times story by Maggie Haberman revealing that Original Guy served as the Trump stand-in during Clinton’s debate preparation. "Hmmm, wherever will Hillary find a manipulative, sometimes-charming, often hilarious, possible sociopath," Chozick muses. "I won't out Original Guy here, except to say that his name rhymes with “Philippe Reines."

Odds that Jake Tapper and CNN will give Amy Chozick a full "town hall" to promote her book at: Zero.

They're only interested in promoting some tell-all books.

Because Integrity.

...

The fury is less evident when she mentions the harassing tendencies of Clinton’s spiritual adviser, whom the Clinton reporters nicknamed Hands Across America. "HAA exhibited generally creepy behavior, but seemed more pitiful and effeminate than threatening, which is why I tried to ignore his rubbing up and down my back," Chozick writes. She does not name HAA in the book; more than a year after Trump's inauguration, Chozick co-wrote a Times story about how Clinton kept spiritual adviser Burns Strider on the 2008 campaign despite repeated accusations of harassment by campaign staff.

The Daily Beast has another damning quote -- "Basket of Deplorables" was no off-the-cuff line. Hillary routinely used it as a laugh line in big-money fundraising dinners in swank places like the Hamptons.

That was no slip of the tongue, since "Hillary always broke down Trump supporters into three baskets," Chozick writes.

“Basket #1: The Republicans who hated her and would vote Republican no matter who the nominee.

Basket #2: Voters whose jobs and livelihoods had disappeared, or as Hillary said, 'who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens in their lives and their futures.'

Basket #3: The Deplorables. This basket includes 'the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic--you name it.'

"The Deplorables always got a laugh, over living-room chats in the Hamptons, at dinner parties under the stars on Martha’s Vineyard, over passed hors d'oeuvres in Beverly Hills, and during sunset cocktails in Silicon Valley," Chozick continues.

Funny, I don't remember Chozick or anyone else covering Clinton during the campaign reporting that little nugget. It's almost as if they were trying to protect her from herself, and deliberately hiding relevant information from the public they were allegedly helping to make an informed choice.

And speaking of conspiracy theories: Bill Clinton, maybe trying to pay Hillary Clinton back for all the conspiracy theories she dreamed up to save his bacon in 1997, spins out this incredible conspiracy theory about the New York Times trying to get Trump elected.

Why? For money.

"After the election, Bill would spread a more absurd Times conspiracy: The publisher had struck a deal with Trump that we’d destroy Hillary on her emails to help him get elected, if he kept driving traffic and boosting the company's stock price."

References to "They," talk of a Jewish-owned newspaper sabotaging her campaign for sheckels -- these conspiracy theories, like most conspiracy theories, seem to be converging on to an anti-semitic underlying premise.

The book sounds very feminist, very liberal, and still very pro-Hillary, despite her frustrations with Hillary for being a Gigantic Loser.

So I'm not recommending it. Just sharing some quotes.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:15 PM




Comments

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1 First?

Posted by: WonkishRogue at April 20, 2018 06:11 PM (BRpqW)

2 Wow! My life is complete.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at April 20, 2018 06:11 PM (BRpqW)

3 I Knew They Would Never Let Me Be President

++++

I agree with her 100%. Except for her value of "they". She thinks NYT. I think the American people.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:11 PM (pvjTE)

4 I'm not saying it was aliens... But, it was aliens.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 20, 2018 06:12 PM (v30M8)

5 who was she bullshitting with the comment Why am I not 50 pts ahead? then?

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2018 06:13 PM (aC6Sd)

6 A glass Dido is all she will ever break

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 20, 2018 06:13 PM (6Ll1u)

7 Yeah. Amy Chozick.

The one that cried after she finished her post-election day column.

Objective. Yeah. That's it.

Posted by: golfman at April 20, 2018 06:14 PM (If3tB)

8 She is going through the stages of grief

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2018 06:14 PM (aC6Sd)

9 Man, and we thought TFG was a narcissist...

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 20, 2018 06:14 PM (MX7xj)

10 Oh Boo Fucking Hoo....

Hillary needs to be denied the breath of life.

Somewhere out there is a pillow with her name on it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 20, 2018 06:14 PM (EoRCO)

11 I thank the Lord every night that this unholy creature lost the election. It's hard to even imagine the reign of terror we would be facing right now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Friday Afternoon Mode at April 20, 2018 06:15 PM (xPJvm)

12 Amy Chokesondick?

Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2018 06:15 PM (LiyEm)

13 "(...She would regularly look past her almost entirely female press corps to call on the Fox News correspondent, with his cherub cheeks and Pucci pocket squares.")

For all the Patriarchy, that's a lotta Matriarchy goin' on there.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 20, 2018 06:15 PM (H8S+R)

14 She is going through the stages of grief
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2018 06:14 PM (aC6Sd)

She's stuck on denial and anger, caught in a loop.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Friday Afternoon Mode at April 20, 2018 06:15 PM (xPJvm)

15 In her new book "Chasing Hillary: Ten Years, Two Presidential Campaigns, and One Intact Glass Ceiling," New York Times reporter Amy Chozick described how Biden told the White House press corps that he wanted to run but thought that the Clintons would sabotage him.

He said something like "you guys don't understand these people," according to an excerpt in the Daily Beast. "The Clintons will try to destroy me."

That's a nice party you got there, Joe.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:16 PM (+y/Ru)

16 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Friday Afternoon Mode at April 20, 2018 06:15 PM (xPJvm)

And I thank God every morning she isn't President.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:16 PM (tpDAe)

17 Hillary Clinton: "I Knew They Would Never Let Me Be President"
...........

So you tried to steal it. Worked with Bernie, with Trump not so much.
Sucks to be you.

Posted by: wth at April 20, 2018 06:16 PM (HgMAr)

18
References to "They," talk of a Jewish-owned newspaper sabotaging her campaign for sheckels -- these conspiracy theories, like most conspiracy theories, seem to be converging on to an anti-semitic underlying premise.

To take complete control they know they have to take out the Joos. It's in the playbook.

History always repeats.

Saul may have forgotten to mention that part. Or was self-loathing.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 20, 2018 06:17 PM (LOgQ4)

19 Comey cried and cried when Mookie broke the devastating news about Florida. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 20, 2018 06:17 PM (Tyii7)

20 I'm not saying it was aliens... But, it was aliens.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 20, 2018 06:12 PM (v30M
.............

Ancient Alien Theorists say yes.

Posted by: wth at April 20, 2018 06:17 PM (HgMAr)

21 The crazy, the evil not-fun crazy, is strong with her.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 20, 2018 06:17 PM (0QYMt)

22 She's just like Comey.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 06:18 PM (oVJmc)

23 Amy Chokesondick?
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2018 06:15 PM (LiyEm)

I'd bet "AllergictoDick".

Posted by: golfman at April 20, 2018 06:18 PM (If3tB)

24 She was just becoming more selective in her appeal throughout the campaign.

Posted by: Ian Faith at April 20, 2018 06:18 PM (rznWS)

25 Shes practically Margret Thatcher, except for the winning and running a country and shit.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 20, 2018 06:19 PM (6Ll1u)

26 She's stuck on denial and anger, caught in a loop.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Friday Afternoon Mode at April 20, 2018 06:15 PM (xPJvm)

Is she gonna self destruct like that "Does not compute" computer in Star Wars?

Posted by: X-ray at April 20, 2018 06:19 PM (TGrKk)

27 These insider books are rarely worth reading. All the interesting stuff is shared when the book is being promoted. How many people actually read a Bob Woodward book? You can watch one interview he does and get anything that might be important.

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 20, 2018 06:19 PM (xPl2J)

28 Ed Henry

Posted by: Me? at April 20, 2018 06:19 PM (nzKWW)

29 Comey cried and cried when Mookie broke the devastating news about Florida. *hic*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 20, 2018 06:17 PM (Tyii7)

*clap

Posted by: golfman at April 20, 2018 06:19 PM (If3tB)

30 Ugh. Speaking of successful yet self-contradicting women:

I like a number of the short stories Pam Houston has written over he years. Her best stuff -- unsurprisingly -- was in her first collection, Cowboys Are My Weakness. Even though she makes a liberal reference or two, all the stories reference the life of the trained horsewoman/hunter/outdoor enthusiast she'd trained hard to be. And yes, guns were mentioned. Frequently.

Just saw her Twitter feed today. The lib stuff, not surprising. The support of the anti-NRA crowd: disappointing.

Aaaaaarrrrggggggghhhhhh!!!! And another one bites the dust. You stupid bitches, why can't you leave politics out of it??

Posted by: Shopgirl at April 20, 2018 06:19 PM (RKQJl)

31 And do you know who's responsible for Hillary losing the election? THE JOOS!!!

Posted by: O'Brien at April 20, 2018 06:20 PM (O5Q3r)

32 "I Knew They Would Never Let Me Be President!"




Oh boohoo, such self-pity, such melodrama.
When one considers all the people's lives she's ruined, from Benghazi, to Haiti, all for money and power --- there is no pity for her. Heck, I wish that was on video so we could watch it often along with The Young Turk's election night coverage.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2018 06:20 PM (W+vEI)

33 There was just too damned much mincing going on with my staff. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 20, 2018 06:20 PM (Tyii7)

34
Baskets for sale! baskets? baskets anyone?

Posted by: Hillary selling at the framers market at April 20, 2018 06:20 PM (r+sAi)

35 What is it about Hillary that she seems to surround herself with men that seem to have zero respect for women.

Posted by: buzzion at April 20, 2018 06:20 PM (lKs2v)

36 Wasn't Ed Henry the one that was cheating on his wife with that Vegas stripper?

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 20, 2018 06:20 PM (xPl2J)

37 What is a Pucci pocket square? And she liked handsome men? Well, who doesn't?

Posted by: IC at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (a0IVu)

38 Sorry for the early OT but I wanted to respond to this:


266 Insomniac, what is a health care lawyer? Never heard of that before now. My BIL is a malpractice lawyer but not the same thing I guess?
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 20, 2018 06:01 PM (dUJdY)

I suppose the best definition I can provide is a lawyer whose specialty is the representation of health care providers with regard to matters implicating federal and state regulation of health care and health care providers. It can touch on all kinds of things including fraud and abuse, false claims, self-referral, antikickback laws, privacy and confidentiality, licensing issues, Board discipline, business arrangements, regulatory compliance, and on and on. Medical malpractice is a specialized area of personal injury.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (NWiLs)

39 Norks shutting down long range missile tests and nuke site. It's the foreign policy clusterfark we were warned about when Trump was elected.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (BRpqW)

40 >>>36 Wasn't Ed Henry the one that was cheating on his wife with that Vegas stripper?

Look, I don't think of myself as a hero. If other people want to call me a hero -- well, I can't stop them.

Posted by: Ed "The Hero" Henry at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (8rNrN)

41 [come on, clean it up, get a hair cut]

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (rznWS)

42 And that was the Dems best candidate. Because she used her own stolen money to buy the Democratic Party. DaneGeld.

Looks like the MAIM (Mainstream Agit-Prop and Indoctrination Media) covered the story of how awful she was with a pillow, until it stopped moving.

Iowahawk was so prescient.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (hyuyC)

43 "Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of it's own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone"

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (bUjCl)

44 >>Funny, I don't remember Chozick or anyone else covering Clinton during the campaign reporting that little nugget. It's almost as if they were trying to protect her from herself, and deliberately hiding relevant information from the public they were allegedly helping to make an informed choice.



Just Like "Game Change," they save the best stuff for after the election, long after it has a chance to influence votes.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2018 06:22 PM (W+vEI)

45 Amy Chozick Chokesondick.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:22 PM (+y/Ru)

46 Poor Hillary, the excoriated cuckquean. Bill raped his way thru Arkansas and D.C. and you stood there watching like starry-eyed groupie.

Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2018 06:22 PM (VuZ3C)

47 How could you not see that Deplorable turnout was primed to go up from Romney levels in places like the FL panhandle? Why if you were that oblivious you might even run a campaign to insult these folks thinking that it would never goad these folks into turning out to deliver a big fuck you.


Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2018 06:22 PM (qMV6r)

48 The blog just turned into a pink hole. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 20, 2018 06:22 PM (Tyii7)

49 They will never let me be president either. They are pretty smart people.

Posted by: f'db at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (UdKB7)

50 so, is this they[ different from the they of the vast right wing conspiracy ?

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (bUjCl)

51 Paging FaCubeItche.

FaCubeItche please use the Purple Dank courtesy phone.

Posted by: Barrel at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (hyuyC)

52 Just like I don't want to hear complaints about sexual crudeness or infidelity from the Party of Clinton Presidential Kneepads, I really don't need to hear anything about sexism from the Party of Perpetual Vile Attacks on Sarah Palin.

Everybody knows the right would vote overwhelmingly for Nikki Haley (especially right now), and this argument is bullshit.

The "racist right" also goes gaga over Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas because it's about ideas not skin color.

And everybody knows it.

Hillary Clinton had the most crooked record in politics and a reputation for abusive behavior. She could have lost to a ham sandwich.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (FDnQi)

53 I can understand a cabal of "they" controlling the strings of power, but can't understand how "they" would prefer Trump over Hillary.

Posted by: MAGA at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (LnOh3)

54 Fa Cube,

Come on, you're a regular. you know you can't cut and paste from Word or whatever you're doing to cause all that HTML to post with your actual words.

Posted by: Ed at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (8rNrN)

55 41. Get busy, gettin' Boss Ace's hobos outta Boss Barrel's bunghole.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (fA1SL)

56 ThaBarrelItches

Posted by: wth at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (HgMAr)

57 Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (rznWS)

To the barrel he shall go,
the barrel he shall go.
Hi-ho the merrio,
to the barrel he shall go

Posted by: random lurker commenter at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (oLa9K)

58 Thanks Insomniac for the explanation.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (dUJdY)

59 Just saw her Twitter feed today. The lib stuff, not surprising. The support of the anti-NRA crowd: disappointing.

Aaaaaarrrrggggggghhhhhh!!!! And another one bites the dust. You stupid bitches, why can't you leave politics out of it??
Posted by: Shopgirl at April 20, 2018 06:19 PM (RKQJl)

I listen to food/cooking podcasts. They frequently make a point to deride the previous science of eggs/butter/fat etc.

I always wonder where they fall on climate change.

Posted by: golfman at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM (If3tB)

60 I watched Jonathan Alter say PDT lies about everything with no sense of irony about Hillary Clinton lying all the time. If you are a narcissist, you pretty much think you can get away with lying. Think about it. Zippy used to say he learned about his scandals when everyone else did. He always got away with "oops, did I do that", Irkle-esque routine. The Make Believe Media just didn't care to report it.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM (rdl6o)

61 Your a DC slacker unless you snort coke off a hookers ass

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM (6Ll1u)

62 Wouldn't that explain why she wasn't 50 points ahead? That "THEY" were never going to let her be president.

The aliens just want you to sleep and consume. They were never going to let Hillary be president.

Why do the left always get away with venturing into tin-hat territory?

I know. It's because of THEM!

Posted by: Axeman at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM (vDqXW)

63 I knew they would never let me have The Precious!

Posted by: Gollum at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM (djCea)

64 18
References to "They," talk of a Jewish-owned newspaper sabotaging her campaign for sheckels -- these conspiracy theories, like most conspiracy theories, seem to be converging on to an anti-semitic underlying premise.

To take complete control they know they have to take out the Joos. It's in the playbook.

History always repeats.

Saul may have forgotten to mention that part. Or was self-loathing.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 20, 2018 06:17 PM (LOgQ4)

++++

Not sure I follow your reasoning. Jews, for the most part, tend to be very much part of the progressive project. Obviously, there are exceptions, such as some who write here. But, why would any progressive think they have to take out the Jews, when the Jews, for the most part, are allies?

Plus, the NYT is partially owned by a Mexican corporatist. I don't think he's a Jew, but I have to admit, I've never looked into it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM (pvjTE)

65 57 random lurker commenter

I am so stealing that!

Posted by: Barrel at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM (hyuyC)

66 ThaBarrelItches
Posted by: wth at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (HgMAr)

And facubeitches is scratchin.

Bravo.

Posted by: golfman at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM (If3tB)

67 I think Hillary's accurate quote was: "I Knew They Would Never Let Me Be President!" cough, cough . . falls down, breaks wrist.

Posted by: Make Katy Perry Stop Murdering Nuns! at April 20, 2018 06:25 PM (9AV11)

68 "Natalia Lima, 42, performed steamy $2,000-an-hour routines for Henry in a private VIP 'Skybox' at Sapphire Las Vegas strip club"

https://tinyurl.com/gr749s8

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 20, 2018 06:25 PM (xPl2J)

69 Norks shutting down long range missile tests and nuke site. It's the foreign policy clusterfark we were warned about when Trump was elected.

-
Destabilising the chessboard Mad Madeline Albright set up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:25 PM (+y/Ru)

70 I knew they would never let me have unlimited, free ice cream!

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at April 20, 2018 06:25 PM (AoK0a)

71 Anti Semitic? What Damn Jew Bastard said that?

Posted by: Hillary at April 20, 2018 06:25 PM (2DOZq)

72 Hillary Clinton will never perch atop a rocky crag with lightning flashing in the background, spread her leathery wings, and cackle the victory shriek of her people. OR be president.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 20, 2018 06:26 PM (y87Qq)

73 Chozick had the Clinton beat for NYT. They hired her full time just to report on Clinton's.

I saw a pic of her and Bill and they seem e quite friendly. She looks like his type (female and breathing).

Posted by: blaster at April 20, 2018 06:26 PM (DwF62)

74 58 Thanks Insomniac for the explanation.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 20, 2018 06:23 PM (dUJdY)

No problemo. 9 times out of 10 people's eyes glaze over when I try to explain what I do for a living.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 20, 2018 06:26 PM (NWiLs)

75 Who's this they? The people who kept you out of Minnesota? Out of Michigan? Who forced you to run up the score in CA? Who forced you to run on policies that amount to pitting an increasing number of victim groups against each other for a decreasing slice of the pie? That they?

Posted by: Luke Asscracker at April 20, 2018 06:27 PM (Dp6qK)

76 He said something like "you guys don't understand these people," according to an excerpt in the Daily Beast. "The Clintons will try to destroy me."
=====

Probably the only reason I could ever support the Clintons' efforts.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at April 20, 2018 06:27 PM (nILVB)

77 Even if I had never found Ace and still mostly believed the FNM I think I would have voted for Trump based on the video of Hillary recounting to a reporter her law career and describing the case she won to get the rapist of the young teen off (believe that was linked on FB) It was not a smoking gun of doing anything illegal but it is crystal clear that she has/had no empathy for the victim (cuz just poor white trash who lived on the wrong side of the tracks)

OTOH Trump the billionaire seems quite dialed in to treating people from all walks of life as real people. Perhaps from being in the real estate and hospitality business and getting to know the folks building and working in his hotels and resorts.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 20, 2018 06:27 PM (eASYU)

78 I just saw a talking penis on tv. Some fake Vietnam war liar or, maybe it was just a fucktard. Might have been an eel.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 20, 2018 06:28 PM (KP5rU)

79 You put in 77% of the effort, you get 77% of the results.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 20, 2018 06:28 PM (Dp6qK)

80 The JEF
JE Hoover

Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2018 06:29 PM (VBKy9)

81 "It's almost as if they were trying to protect her from herself, and deliberately hiding relevant information from the public they were allegedly helping to make an informed choice."

Relevant information? If only. They were even hiding her. How many months delay before she went out in public to campaign? How many reinvention tours were initiated? How many states did they keep her out of? She is what Hollywood would normally call "Box Office Poison".

She was so awful the entire kingdom of media, academia, and Deep State, (against Trump, for god's sake!) failed to drag her carcass across the finish. With a checklist resume that would make any academic (and only an academic) swoon, she got beat by a veritable hard hat steel worker.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 20, 2018 06:30 PM (H8S+R)

82 You put in 77% of the effort, you get 77% of the results.
=====

I love a good Seven & Seven!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at April 20, 2018 06:30 PM (nILVB)

83 Insomniac.. I imagine you stay pretty busy.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 20, 2018 06:30 PM (dUJdY)

84 The globalists that wanted an open border hemisphere ... that thought making money in grossly polluted COMMUNIST China was awesome ... no surprise the "basket of deplorables" line was a good laugh for them.

Yes, destroy the west, we cokeheads are living it up on all the free money ... sure we are selling out America, who cares? Selling out everything patriots fought for in several wars? OF COURSE! We are the Wall Street Traders ... WE RULE the world.

So now, back to America First ... if other nations want to prosper, they should follow (the original) American Way. We will shine the light for them, even help them. But don't be a global mafia traitor that wants to rule with the iron fist, taking the easy money bribes.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 20, 2018 06:30 PM (bT8Z4)

85 hill worshipper writes book.
also cries.

gag me with a spoon.

Posted by: concrete girl at April 20, 2018 06:30 PM (zr8oO)

86 They = American voters.

Analysis: True.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 20, 2018 06:31 PM (Ndje9)

87 It's written "Chozick" but it's pronounced 'chokes on dick'.

Posted by: a. chozick at April 20, 2018 06:32 PM (VBKy9)

88 Skip: "She is going through the stages of grief"

Heh. They're determined to restart over and over, too.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 20, 2018 06:32 PM (H8S+R)

89 Reading the bit about Hillary and her frequent "deplorable" slur at fundraisers, It's so funny how quickly the Democrats flipped on the white working class as soon as they no longer had that vote in the bag. That was like the backbone of the party once upon a time.

If blacks ever were to start voting Republican, Democrats would probably routinely use the "N" word at rallies to big applause.

Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:32 PM (lKmt3)

90 "The Deplorables always got a laugh, over living-room chats in the Hamptons, at dinner parties under the stars on Martha's Vineyard, over passed hors d'oeuvres in Beverly Hills, and during sunset cocktails in Silicon Valley," Chozick continues.

"Bitter Clingers" was so last year .... so Indonesian.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2018 06:32 PM (8gDQu)

91 83 Insomniac.. I imagine you stay pretty busy.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 20, 2018 06:30 PM (dUJdY)

Eh, that's a whole story in itself.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 20, 2018 06:33 PM (NWiLs)

92 And she liked handsome men? Well, who doesn't?
Posted by: IC at April 20, 2018 06:21 PM (a0IVu)



I'd be willing to bet that a dashing fellow like Sally Kohn, would be envious and resentful of handsome men.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 20, 2018 06:33 PM (/qEW2)

93 Hillary enjoys nothing more than flirting with a handsome, preferably straight man
----
Bitch!

Posted by: andi sullivan at April 20, 2018 06:33 PM (VBKy9)

94 If conspiring against Hillary is wrong, I don't want to be right.


Chozzik sounds like a twatwaffle BTW.

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2018 06:33 PM (+lOpA)

95 I guess the ' They' would be us.

Kind of makes me warm and fuzzy inside

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2018 06:33 PM (aC6Sd)

96 "They were never going to let me be president."

Hey, my house has many mansions.

Posted by: Donald Trump, singlehandedly sidelining the Clinton Machine at April 20, 2018 06:33 PM (2NqXo)

97 Ace, thank you for posting a lot of really good stuff today.

Serious, you guy.

I still expect Hillary to run again in 2020 because she fully believes the election was stolen from her and she is the most qualified person to ever run for president, so she is absolutely entitled to a do-over. I would almost expect that she is praying for N Korea to bomb Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at April 20, 2018 06:34 PM (KxbBq)

98 I wonder who "they" are in Hillary's head.

She sunk herself. She had every opportunity as Sec. of Sate to build a candidacy and she sabotaged herself. I wonder if self-sabotage and blaming others is some weird pathology that forms a pattern in her life.

When McCain was running he began to do erratic things that made me wonder if he was sabotaging himself. That he suddenly had doubts. It's not concious, it's subconscious behavior. That's why you can only guess at it.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 06:34 PM (qV3Xe)

99 Here's the thing...as long as Hillary CLinton is in the national spotlight there exists the unflattering portrait of the Democrat Party as a party of has-beens and whiners and...LOSERS!

How much that is worth to us normals as depressed Democrat turnout I have no idea, but as unpleasant as the mere thought of her is, we need to do everything we can to keep her in the public eye and seemingly relevant as the grande dame of the Democrat party.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 20, 2018 06:34 PM (wYseH)

100 * sniff *

She truly deserved to win.

* sniff coke *

Posted by: Beef Flaps at NRO at April 20, 2018 06:34 PM (LNPd9)

101 $2,000/hour for a lap dance?

That better include sammiches.

Posted by: money to burn at April 20, 2018 06:35 PM (mEglQ)

102 Visual metaphor for the Clinton camlaign.

https://youtu.be/BOvt8OlfX4E

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:35 PM (+y/Ru)

103 If only she could have resisted the siren song of graft. The secret server, the CGI sleaze, the Russian collusion, she might have won. Even Susan Sarandon thinks she's a sleaze.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 20, 2018 06:35 PM (/qEW2)

104 Okay, I'll admit it, those filthy Jooos did one good thing if they kept her out of the oval office.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Anti-Semite at April 20, 2018 06:35 PM (wYseH)

105 Say, Chaz Bono, if I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?

*bats eyes*
*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at April 20, 2018 06:35 PM (nILVB)

106 $2,000/hour for a lap dance?
That better include sammiches.
Posted by: money to burn at April 20, 2018 06:35 PM (mEglQ)

And penetration.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 20, 2018 06:36 PM (EoRCO)

107 She was believing her BS polls even though they were over-sampled to Hell and back. There was no way she was up by 15% like some of those polls said. still she came close to winning but she bet wrong on NY and CA. She had to know she would take those far left blue States so why did she concentrate on them so much instead of some of those toss-up States. She had some bad people working for her which tells you all you need to know.


And still she refuses to go home and STFU.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 20, 2018 06:36 PM (mpXpK)

108 Some poor child died today, but Hillary lives.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 20, 2018 06:37 PM (6Ll1u)

109 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party. I can't think of one even if you ignored their political opinions.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:37 PM (2DOZq)

110 Say, Chaz Bono, if I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?

*bats eyes*
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary at April 20, 2018 06:35 PM (nILVB)

Oh dear.

My brian just went kerblooie.

Thanks a pant-load.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Friday Afternoon Mode at April 20, 2018 06:37 PM (xPJvm)

111 and did Hillary ever thank all the mainstream Republicans who couldn't wait to disown Trump after the Billy Bush tape came out?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (KxbBq)

112 Not sure I follow your reasoning. Jews, for the most part, tend to be very much part of the progressive project.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:24 PM


Hear me out here. Slowly if you please. In 'self report' Jews vote that way. There's no actual definitive polling data to prove that. Just what people say when they exit the polls. Self report is notorious for inaccuracy. I'm not saying it's inaccurate. Just that it very much tends to be that way. Always.

How many beers did you drink?

"Just two" (always) says the guy who blows a .380 indicating a whole lot more then two beers. Like a case of beer.

It now seems that a slimeball like Hillary, knowing the inaccuracy of self-report, seems to want to blame the Joos. Because imho and historically, very bad people always go down that road.

I suspect she's gonna get shanked pretty soon. She's dangerously skirting around an issue which could kill the DNC.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (LOgQ4)

113 "She is going through the stages of grief"

-
She's in the paranoid schizophrenic stage now.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (+y/Ru)

114 109 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party. I can't think of one even if you ignored their political opinions.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:37 PM (2DOZq)



Hmmmm.....


::ponders::

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (+lOpA)

115 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party. I can't think of one even if you ignored their political opinions.


=

you are on to something there, can't think of one

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (bUjCl)

116 >> I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party. I can't think of one even if you ignored their political opinions.


Tulsi Gabbard?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (W+vEI)

117 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party

Me. ;^) I'm still a registered Democrat.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:39 PM (tpDAe)

118 Darkly Conspiratorial. Is that the movie Ace is reviewing?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:40 PM (o7tuA)

119 "You've got your Dunning in my Kruger! Mmm-- two incompetent tastes that taste even more incompetent together!!!"

That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

Posted by: BillyR at April 20, 2018 06:40 PM (Yt2pn)

120 they all seem cultish ( I mean BO, relly ...), very unpleasant

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:40 PM (bUjCl)

121 >>>If only she could have resisted the siren song of graft. The secret
server, the CGI sleaze, the Russian collusion, she might have won. Even
Susan Sarandon thinks she's a sleaze.<<<

Yes, but what is the statute of limitations on most of Hillary's high crimes and misdemeanors? She bailed after the jug-eared whistling fuckstick's first term, so I suspect there was some Alinskyesque forethought and planning there.

Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2018 06:41 PM (VuZ3C)

122 FenelonSpoke

OK. FenelonSpoke counts.

We got one. Any others?

Posted by: Barrel at April 20, 2018 06:41 PM (hyuyC)

123 116 >> I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party. I can't think of one even if you ignored their political opinions.


Tulsi Gabbard?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (W+vEI)

Yeah that may be one .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:41 PM (2DOZq)

124 Darkly Conspiratorial. Is that the movie Ace is reviewing?

Actually sounds like a good title for a movie.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:41 PM (tpDAe)

125 113
"She is going through the stages of grief"



-

She's in the paranoid schizophrenic stage now.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (+y/Ru)
Let me know when shes at the 'jump off a bridge' stage. I'd like to watch.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (o7tuA)

126 Would the Dems even allow a likable female into their party?

Posted by: Axeman at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (vDqXW)

127 I think she's just got alcohol-fueled fever-dreams of those giant ants from the classic 50s movie . . .

THEM!!!!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (0oDnb)

128 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party. I can't think of one even if you ignored their political opinions.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

____________

Women rarely do well in that role.

If they come off strong, they look like a bitch. Sweet, and they look weak.

I'm no feminist, but I've seen it in the workplace as well and we just seemed to be wired that way.

Also, women do hate other women. The preach sisterhood but they never like one getting too far ahead of themselves.

Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (lKmt3)

129 Removes nasty sock.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (hyuyC)

130 Me. ;^) I'm still a registered Democrat

==

Fenelon is an asset, like Reilly ace of spies

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (bUjCl)

131 I picture Hillary as a female Howard Hughes...shuffling around with Kleenex boxes on her feet swigging a bottle of vodka and murmuring "Rosebud" over and over to herself.

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (gbWkA)

132 She is going through the stages of grief
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2018 06:14 PM (aC6Sd)
---
All 51,426 of them.

Posted by: Axeman at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (vDqXW)

133 >>>grande dame of the Democrat party.


"Grande dame"
Isn't that the polite way to say old whore?

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (bML9A)

134 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party. I can't
think of one even if you ignored their political opinions.

It's because I'm an Injun, isn't it!

Posted by: Injun Liz Warren at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (O5Q3r)

135 124
Darkly Conspiratorial. Is that the movie Ace is reviewing?



Actually sounds like a good title for a movie.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:41 PM (tpDAe)

..as soon as I posted it I thought the same thing...great minds Fen?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:43 PM (o7tuA)

136 "She is going through the stages of grief"

-
She's in the paranoid schizophrenic stage now.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (+y/Ru)


What if she slipped and hit her head really hard and ended up in a coma, reliving election day 2016 over and over and over for eternity and every time she passed out in the early morning of November 9 2016, she woke up again on the morning of November 8 2016?

That would be awful.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 20, 2018 06:43 PM (y87Qq)

137 Also, women do hate other women. The preach sisterhood but they never like one getting too far ahead of themselves.

Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (lKmt3)



They sure as fck hated Sarah. =(

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2018 06:44 PM (+lOpA)

138 "Natalia Lima, 42, performed steamy $2,000-an-hour routines for Henry in a private VIP 'Skybox' at Sapphire Las Vegas strip club"

Steamy? That's it? For $2,000/hr? For that price, it better be volcanic. Earth shattering. Viagra-shaming.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 20, 2018 06:44 PM (H8S+R)

139 Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (lKmt3)

I don't disagree in general but there are a lot of nice but strong women in the Republican Party.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:44 PM (2DOZq)

140 BOOK THREAD!!!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 20, 2018 06:44 PM (hMwEB)

141 Tulsi Gabbard?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (W+vEI)


Yep ... she's pretty likable.

Also living proof that the Democratic Party also has an Establishment Party. Dems could ABSOLUTELY win the Presidency in the near future with someone like Gabbard.

But ... nope ... she's not Progressive enough for the Power Players in the DNC. They'd rather lose with one of their own.

A smart Republican Party would work with her. Maybe try to get her to join. So ... no.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2018 06:44 PM (fiGNd)

142 I think she's just got alcohol-fueled fever-dreams of those giant ants from the classic 50s movie . . .

THEM!!!!!!

-
Speaking of ants, the kamikaze ants of Borneo.

https://bit.ly/2HdQFmC

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:44 PM (+y/Ru)

143 That would be awful.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 20, 2018 06:43 PM (y87Qq)

ISWYDT.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:44 PM (o7tuA)

144 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party.
............

Kamala Harris?
*ducks, runs*

Posted by: wth at April 20, 2018 06:45 PM (HgMAr)

145 BOOK THREAD!!!

I thought this was the movie thread!

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 20, 2018 06:45 PM (dUJdY)

146 Hear me out here. Slowly if you please. In 'self report' Jews vote that way. There's no actual definitive polling data to prove that. Just what people say when they exit the polls. Self report is notorious for inaccuracy. I'm not saying it's inaccurate. Just that it very much tends to be that way. Always.

How many beers did you drink?

"Just two" (always) says the guy who blows a .380 indicating a whole lot more then two beers. Like a case of beer.

It now seems that a slimeball like Hillary, knowing the inaccuracy of self-report, seems to want to blame the Joos. Because imho and historically, very bad people always go down that road.

I suspect she's gonna get shanked pretty soon. She's dangerously skirting around an issue which could kill the DNC.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (LOgQ4)

++++

Well, that's one way to get to that conclusion. Another is to looks at demographics. Example: New York City I think could be fairly described as having a significant Jewish population. It is also very leftist.

I have no studies at hand, and I'm too lazy to go try and find out if they exist and what they say. But, my anecdotal point of view is that areas that are relatively heavily Jewish are also predominately left wing.

Is there any significant area in the USA that is the opposite, like Utah and the Mormons, but with Jews? None that I can think of. Jews tend to be more left wing, just as Mormons tend to be more right wing.

Of course, all the disclaimers should go here. There are plenty of right wing Jews and left wing Mormons and you shouldn't stereotype, etc.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)

147 Well, the Clintons may have been a force against Biden, but they won't be against Holder & Obama & ValJar and that cabal. So her time is over, Presidence wise. She'll lead something else, or teach, or something. She retains the blind allegiance of millions And she will get vengeance somehow, somewhere, if she can. She blames everyone, so it is a target rich environment.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 06:46 PM (qV3Xe)

148 Also, women do hate other women. The preach sisterhood but they never like one getting too far ahead of themselves.

Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM (lKmt3)


They sure as fck hated Sarah. =(
Posted by: eleven

____________

If they are also legitimately attractive, that's when the knives really come out.

I have mixed feelings about Palin, but I would definitely NOT want to run a female Presidential candidate after seeing it all go down. I really think it backfires even though Republicans don't do as well with female voters.

Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:46 PM (lKmt3)

149 I call on women everywhere to burn their bras to protest male chauvinist pigs. Stop cooking hubby's dinner and wearing those frilly little aprons that make you look so hot (note to self: find one for Huma on ebay). You can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, but never let him forget he's a deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobe, hairy-knuckled man (spit). I am Woman, hear me bore, with cankles too big to ignore.

Posted by: Hillary, proudly ushering in 1972 at April 20, 2018 06:46 PM (2NqXo)

150 There are plenty of right wing Jews and left wing Mormons
====

I agree.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at April 20, 2018 06:47 PM (nILVB)

151 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party.
............


Kate Upton.

It was the guys asking, right?

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 06:47 PM (qV3Xe)

152 Not sure if you know this or not, but that fat ugly fucking harridan thief succubus of a parasite piece of shit shit will never be president of the "United States of America"!

Posted by: Izapole at April 20, 2018 06:48 PM (SALmb)

153 149
I call on women everywhere to burn their bras to protest male chauvinist
pigs. Stop cooking hubby's dinner and wearing those frilly little
aprons that make you look so hot (note to self: find one for Huma on
ebay). You can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, but never let
him forget he's a deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobe,
hairy-knuckled man (spit). I am Woman, hear me bore, with cankles too
big to ignore.

Posted by: Hillary, proudly ushering in 1972 at April 20, 2018 06:46 PM (2NqXo)

Wait a minute Hill....is this a Motown song you stole?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:48 PM (o7tuA)

154 New York City I think could be fairly described as having a significant Jewish population.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)


I think it's still true that the NYC Jewish population is greater than Israel's.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:48 PM (2DOZq)

155
As far as self report let me present this story/example. There was an OB/GYN dude who assured women he was 100% accurate in predicting the sex of the newborn. He had actual proof.

How did he do it? By lying.

He'd tell a woman she was going to have a boy. Then write 'female' on the chart.

If the woman had a boy she'd never question him.

If she had a girl he'd point to the chart where he wrote 'female'.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 20, 2018 06:48 PM (LOgQ4)

156 But, my anecdotal point of view is that areas that are relatively heavily Jewish Catholic are also predominately left wing.

.....

None that I can think of Jews Catholics tend to be more left wing...

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)

there you go. no need to thank me.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:49 PM (bUjCl)

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:49 PM (bUjCl)

158 I set up a Pointer Sisters Station on Pandora. Try listening to that and not getting the happy feet.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:49 PM (o7tuA)

159 Late to the party, but "For those who still say Trump is psychologically unfit to be president, I say: Well, okay, but compared to whom?" is a fucking genius observation- that is literally the first time I have heard that thought expressed. Awesome.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 20, 2018 06:50 PM (5AVMW)

160 I don't disagree in general but there are a lot of nice but strong women in the Republican Party.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

____________

Yes, but I think things change when you have the heat of a Presidential campaign where you better be in the mud pit 24/7 if you actually want to win.

A female Senator being able to keep that image is a lot easier.

Nikki Haley is probably our strongest example, but I'm not a 100% fan of hers.

Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:50 PM (lKmt3)

161 I picture Hillary as a female Howard Hughes...shuffling around with Kleenex boxes on her feet swigging a bottle of vodka and murmuring "Rosebud" over and over to herself.
Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2018 06:42 PM

Hillary's got a thing for Marion Davies?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at April 20, 2018 06:50 PM (2NqXo)

162 Is she gonna self destruct like that "Does not compute" computer in Star Wars?
Posted by: X-ray at April 20, 2018 06:19 PM (TGrKk)

Was the Norman or Landru?

Posted by: Fox2! at April 20, 2018 06:51 PM (brIR5)

163
None that I can think of Jews Catholics tend to be more left wing...



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)



there you go. no need to thank me.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:49 PM (bUjCl)

runner is the slasher!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:51 PM (o7tuA)

164 158 I set up a Pointer Sisters Station on Pandora. Try listening to that and not getting the happy feet.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:49 PM (o7tuA)

What other artists are they selecting for you on that channel?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:51 PM (2DOZq)

165 NY is has a huge Irish and Italian population, so does Boston and...it's very left wing ! I think I am on to something here !

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:51 PM (bUjCl)

166 even Shrilliary has the Pyschological Projection Progtard thing down to a science. NO Hillbags You, MFM, Deep State & the world wanted to keep Trump from being President

Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 20, 2018 06:52 PM (y3aQB)

167 Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:50 PM (lKmt3)

Disagree. You are who you are and more so when stressed.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:52 PM (2DOZq)

168 runner is the slasher!!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 06:51 PM (o7tuA)


if you are good you are good !

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:52 PM (bUjCl)

169 Hillary is not a succubus. She's not a demon if you use the definition of fallen angel, nor is she having sex with men in their sleep unless Bill was just really bored. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:52 PM (tpDAe)

170 So what am I chopped liver?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at April 20, 2018 06:53 PM (nWc4E)

171
Well, that's one way to get to that conclusion. Another is to looks at demographics. Example: New York City I think could be fairly described as having a significant Jewish population. It is also very leftist.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:45 PM


New York City is the perfect example of the minority population being the majority of the population.

In my estimation a minority population would vote 100% for Hillary. She didn't hit that number, did she?

Somebody lied. Is HC 'going there'? Seems like it.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 20, 2018 06:53 PM (LOgQ4)

172 But yes, I trust that you are correct-that Hillary will never be President.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:53 PM (tpDAe)

173 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:52 PM (tpDAe)
++++
Webb Hubbell & Vince Foster say Hi from zombieland

Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 20, 2018 06:54 PM (y3aQB)

174 170 So what am I chopped liver?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at April 20, 2018 06:53 PM (nWc4E)



Gall bladder.

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2018 06:54 PM (+lOpA)

175 151 I'm trying to think of a likable woman in the Democrat Party.
............

Kate Upton.

It was the guys asking, right?
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 06:47 PM (qV3Xe)

She could be Soros, and I would still pledge allegiance to those funbags.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 20, 2018 06:54 PM (Dp6qK)

176 Tina Brown, after listening to a presentation by Hillary Clinton, proclaimed it "Brainsex."

She jokingly suggested she get a tv show called "Brainsex with Hillary Clinton."

True story

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at April 20, 2018 06:55 PM (nILVB)

177 Well, I'm going to go do something constructive. Like watch a baseball game.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 20, 2018 06:55 PM (dUJdY)

178 On drudge ...Sessions is reported to have said that if Rosenstein is fired he's outa-here.... A two-fer!!!! .... Your move pdt

Posted by: Lurker at April 20, 2018 06:55 PM (nzKWW)

179 Hillary's problem is that she is a repulsive stalinist.

Most politicians, even Obama, are charismatic to about half the peeps out there. She is not.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 20, 2018 06:55 PM (Eu5eZ)

180 Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue

Posted by: Wendy Wasserman at April 20, 2018 06:55 PM (TqcFo)

181 I think it's still true that the NYC Jewish population is greater than Israel's.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:48 PM (2DOZq)

you are off...by millions

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:56 PM (bUjCl)

182 "Hillary is not a succubus. She's not a demon "

I'm pretty sure she is an evil witch. She's sure got the cackle for it.

Posted by: f'db at April 20, 2018 06:56 PM (UdKB7)

183 Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 20, 2018 06:54 PM (y3aQB)

Don't know about Webb Hubbell but from what I read about Vince Foster I think he genuinely loved her. I guess that she was before she became completely corrupt on power,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:56 PM (tpDAe)

184 Disagree. You are who you are and more so when stressed.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

__________

Palin was well liked in Alaska and when she was first named VP on the ticket Then not so much and people quickly soured. Even her home state deeply disliked her.

I thought the media was incredibly unfair, but that's going to happen to anyone with an R after their name.



Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:56 PM (lKmt3)

185 Keep Hillary not in preznit.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at April 20, 2018 06:56 PM (2NqXo)

186 None that I can think of Jews Catholics tend to be more left wing...

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)

there you go. no need to thank me.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:49 PM (bUjCl)

++++

Agreed! Catholics tend to be left wing and Evangelicals tend to be right wing.

No doubt, the Jewish could be broken down into subgroups that might have similar tendencies. The Orthodox, for example, I think are more conservative. But, I believe that there are not so many of those.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM (pvjTE)

187 Posted by: f'db at April 20, 2018 06:56 PM (UdKB7)

We were having a discussion in an earlier thread about whether Hillary belonged to a coven.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM (tpDAe)

188 Anybody remember Hillary dancing?


That was freakin gold Jerry.

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM (+lOpA)

189 182. And her house moves around on chicken legs. And she has a fleet of mortars & pestles.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM (fA1SL)

190 Hillary is not a succubus. She's not a demon if you use the definition of fallen angel, nor is she having sex with men in their sleep unless Bill was just really bored. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:52 PM (tpDAe)



She is just a twisted, evil piece of shit that we are SO lucky to have avoided as our President.....


And she's gross, too!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM (5AVMW)

191 THEY handed her a senate seat. THEY made her Secretary of State. THEY blazed a path to the nomination for her. THEY were just fine with her being president.

WE were not.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM (gC2IV)

192 That old hag will be pissing and moaning about not being the President and will NEVER be the President until the day she dies.

God willing and the Creek don't rise, that day will come soon.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at April 20, 2018 06:58 PM (qjAcT)

193 Tina Brown, after listening to a presentation by Hillary Clinton, proclaimed it "Brainsex."

She jokingly suggested she get a tv show called "Brainsex with Hillary Clinton."

True story
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at April 20, 2018 06:55 PM

It would have to be Briansex.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at April 20, 2018 06:58 PM (2NqXo)

194 "We were having a discussion in an earlier thread about whether Hillary belonged to a coven."

Well I missed that but have been convinced for years that's she's evil even if she doesn't ride a broom.

Posted by: f'db at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (UdKB7)

195 Agreed! Catholics tend to be left wing and Evangelicals tend to be right wing.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

________

I wonder how much of that is just regional.

Evangelicals are heavy in the South, Catholics heavy in the NorthEast.

Is it geography or religion. Or both?

Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (lKmt3)

196 I think the author tried to use the Mike Tyson rape defense attorney strategy and reveal all the bad things about his client to deflect from the real charges. See how that worked out.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (2DOZq)

197 e were having a discussion in an earlier thread about whether Hillary belonged to a coven.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM

Paging Marina Abramovic!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (2NqXo)

198 Brainsex.

Gunny Hartman: I WILL BRAINSEX YOU!

Eh. Not the same punch.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Friday Afternoon Mode at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (xPJvm)

199 187. Yes, yes she does.

https://tinyurl.com/y7adwmc3

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (fA1SL)

200 It seems like a lot of the insanity of the Democrat Party is breaking off and floating to the surface this week.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (oVJmc)

201 Well I missed that but have been convinced for years that's she's evil even if she doesn't ride a broom.
Posted by: f'db at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (UdKB7)


Witch rides a bollard like a stripper pole.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (Dp6qK)

202 I will never be sure she won't be President until we see her broomstick

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2018 07:00 PM (aC6Sd)

203 No doubt, the Jewish could be broken down into subgroups that might have similar tendencies. The Orthodox, for example, I think are more conservative. But, I believe that there are not so many of those.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM (pvjTE)

the tilt is not as significant. If majority of Catholics voted republican we would not have a democrat party. if majority of jews voted republican..it may make a difference in this county or that, but not that much at all.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 07:00 PM (bUjCl)

204 Hillary flirting? With a man? The deuce you say

Posted by: PhilDirt at April 20, 2018 07:00 PM (NgMkh)

205 Well I missed that but have been convinced for years that's she's evil even if she doesn't ride a broom.
====

She can't ride a broom due to weight limits and her magic is not powerful enough to wield a street sweeper.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at April 20, 2018 07:00 PM (nILVB)

206 Lurker: "On drudge ...Sessions is reported to have said that if Rosenstein is fired he's outa-here.... A two-fer!!!! .... Your move pdt"

Oops. There's that word again.

I sense a gaslighting.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 20, 2018 07:01 PM (H8S+R)

207 THEY handed her a senate seat. THEY made her Secretary of State. THEY blazed a path to the nomination for her. THEY were just fine with her being president.
---
THEY called her Brad.

Posted by: Axeman at April 20, 2018 07:01 PM (vDqXW)

208 >>>"I Knew They Would Never Let Me Be President"

Reflect on the pettiness. Imagine a defeated general formally surrendering and saying to the opposing general "I knew they would never let me win". You were trying to destroy us. Why should we have let you win? And Democrats play dirty, so if that remark was meant to hint at a conspiracy, Democrats are the last ones who can be whining about that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 20, 2018 07:01 PM (/qEW2)

209
The book sounds very feminist, very liberal, and still very pro-Hillary, despite her frustrations with Hillary for being a Gigantic Loser.







Reminds me a bit of David Mamet when he was still a leftist. After Kerry got clubbed like a Yukon seal in '04, Mamet wrote an op-ed where he was pissed off that he wasted his vote on a big pussy like Mrs. Heinz's gigolo. Because in Mamet's eyes, Kerry wouldn't fight, wouldn't go for the jugular, politically speaking.

Didn't surprise me as much as I thought it would have when Mamet came over to the Dark Side.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2018 07:02 PM (eXA4G)

210 Donna Summer
Barry White
Diana Ross
Martha and the Vandellas
KC and the Sunshine Band
Temptations
Mary Wells
Deneiece Williams
Four Tops
Marvellettes
Smokey Robinson

...and thats not all!!

...get all the greatest hits!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 07:02 PM (o7tuA)

211 I wonder how much of that is just regional.

Evangelicals are heavy in the South, Catholics heavy in the NorthEast.

Is it geography or religion. Or both?

Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (lKmt3)

++++

With the Catholics, it's also a question of the leadership since it is such a top down organization. But, good point about the regionalism. I'm sure it's no accident that Evangelicalism has had an easier time finding converts in the South as opposed to Massachusetts.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:02 PM (pvjTE)

212 She later reveals this "loathsome" creature to be Philippe Reines.

Who?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 20, 2018 07:02 PM (yQpMk)

213 Next up: She didn't really want to be president anyway.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (gC2IV)

214 I still think the funniest thing I've ever seen was when Trump suggested Hillary use some of her own money for her campaign. The look she gave him was priceless.

Look, we all know the Dems are going to call their opponent stupid, then evil and finally a psychopath. Hillary certainly didn't have a problem going to Trump's wedding before he ran for office. I don't remember any Dems calling Trump evil or stupid back when he was on the Apprentice. It's all BS.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (5HBd1)

215 Sounds like I'm in baskets #1 and #3.

And proud of it, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (GBxj/)

216 If Reines is the "Original Guy", does that make Podesta the Transitional Guy?

Posted by: George LeS at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (/ki+X)

217 Hillary as president would have been like an evil Nixon. A goateed Nixon, if you will.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (yQpMk)

218 181 I think it's still true that the NYC Jewish population is greater than Israel's.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 06:48 PM (2DOZq)

you are off...by millions
Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 06:56 PM (bUjCl)

Only by five million. That's close enough for government work.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (2DOZq)

219 We were pretty much unanimous in our decision.

Posted by: The Gods of Olympus at April 20, 2018 07:04 PM (UdKB7)

220 It seems like a lot of the insanity of the Democrat Party is breaking off and floating to the surface this week.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (oVJmc)
---
They have more to react to when non-libs are in power, and fewer resources to conceal it.

I just want to release a hearty guffaw when they start talking about Trump as a dictator or fascist in their trembling little voices.

I mean, literally, in WHAT world are they living? There's fascism in your streets because he's trying to keep aliens at the borders?

Posted by: Axeman at April 20, 2018 07:04 PM (vDqXW)

221 The only question I want hear from a reporter is, Hillary are you going to chose a blindfold and a cigarette?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 20, 2018 07:04 PM (r9UYA)

222
I have a Jewish neighbor guy I enjoy. I catch up with him every six months or so. From conversations I know without a shadow of a doubt he is nullifying his wifes vote.

Without any conflict in the household.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 20, 2018 07:04 PM (LOgQ4)

223 Catholics are a big cohort. They're political center is always close to that of the electorate as a whole

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2018 07:04 PM (qMV6r)

224 210. Pfft! If that mix aint got Mitar Miric, aka The Podgorica Panty-dropper, it ain't gonna sell, mang.

https://youtu.be/ignq296onLs

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:04 PM (fA1SL)

225 7 Yeah. Amy Chozick.

The one that cried after she finished her post-election day column.


Wait - Chokzondick cried after Hillary lost, and she didn't attend a single Hillary rally?

There's Hillary's problem right there. Star power? Zero.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:05 PM (GBxj/)

226 Took the plunge and took a hit off the exhaust pipe that is the WaPo comment section.
Those people (?) still think that HRC was the bestest most wonderfullest candidate of all tim 'I mean, like, c'monm even Obama said so.'

Posted by: random lurker commenter at April 20, 2018 07:05 PM (oLa9K)

227 With the Catholics, it's also a question of the leadership since it is such a top down organization. But, good point about the regionalism. I'm sure it's no accident that Evangelicalism has had an easier time finding converts in the South as opposed to Massachusetts.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:02 PM (pvjTE)

no. it's the same canard that prevented Catholics from rising politically - taht they are puppets of Rome. It has to do with social position more than religious diktats.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 07:05 PM (bUjCl)

228 Next up: She didn't really want to be president anyway.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (gC2IV)
---
She heard the grapes at the White House are pretty sour.

Posted by: Axeman at April 20, 2018 07:05 PM (vDqXW)

229 I was probably remembering the USA Jewish population being greater than Israel's.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 20, 2018 07:05 PM (2DOZq)

230 It would have to be Briansex.


At her age it would be Bransex.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 20, 2018 07:06 PM (yQpMk)

231 Weird...

My chrome fork browser no longer has a working spell checker

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 20, 2018 07:06 PM (LNPd9)

232 Evangelicals are heavy in the South, Catholics heavy in the NorthEast.




Stop fat-shaming religious people!

Posted by: Triggly Puff at April 20, 2018 07:06 PM (qV3Xe)

233 Nobody giving us credit?

Bastids.

Posted by: those meddling kids at April 20, 2018 07:06 PM (cHbmY)

234
That old hag will be pissing and moaning about not being the President and will NEVER be the President until the day she dies.

God willing and the Creek don't rise, that day will come soon.
Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at April 20, 2018 06:58 PM (qjAcT)








Honestly, I'm hoping that Frau Gruppencankles lives a long life. A long life where EVERY DAY she reflects on the fact that she will Never Be President.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2018 07:07 PM (eXA4G)

235 At her age it would be Bransex.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 20, 2018 07:06 PM (yQpMk)


Wow! Is it four hours already?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 20, 2018 07:07 PM (Dp6qK)

236 Who is willing to give me odds on Hillary Clinton's own grandchildren bashing her in the head and commandeering the Foundation? Anyone?

Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2018 07:07 PM (VuZ3C)

237 43 "Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of it's own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone"

Hillary has got Cobwebs in the Windmills of her Mind.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2018 07:07 PM (V2Yro)

238 231.

Usul no longer requires the weirding module.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:07 PM (fA1SL)

239 The US Jewish population is about the same as Israel's. Amazingly they each have about 40% of all the Jews in the world

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2018 07:07 PM (qMV6r)

240 Nobody giving us credit?

Bastids.
Posted by: those meddling kids at April 20, 2018 07:06 PM (cHbmY)
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Us neither

Posted by: Deadbeats at April 20, 2018 07:07 PM (vDqXW)

241 233 Nobody giving us credit?

Bastids.
Posted by: those meddling kids at April 20, 2018 07:06 PM (cHbmY)



Second look at Shaggy?

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2018 07:08 PM (+lOpA)

242


That old hag will be pissing and moaning about not being the President and will NEVER be the President until the day she dies.


Yep.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 07:08 PM (oVJmc)

243 Shaggy was a pimp. But I did not know, until this day, that was Old Man Withers all along.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 20, 2018 07:09 PM (yQpMk)

244 That old hag will be pissing and moaning about not being the President and will NEVER be the President until the day she dies.


Yep.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 07:08 PM (oVJmc)

man thats contagious!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'had to leave his sausage in Italy' at April 20, 2018 07:09 PM (o7tuA)

245

How come they never mention the "deplorable" table talk at dinner with the Bushes. Wouldn't be surprised that Barbara Bush gave Cankles the phrase. Sounds right up her alley. But she was so charming and all. #paragon

Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2018 07:10 PM (Ymy4N)

246 213 Next up: She didn't really want to be president anyway.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (gC2IV)


"FINE!" / Hillary

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:10 PM (GBxj/)

247 no. it's the same canard that prevented Catholics from rising politically - taht they are puppets of Rome. It has to do with social position more than religious diktats.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 07:05 PM (bUjCl)

++++

I'm not saying that Catholics are puppets. But, most non-Catholic churches don't even have a Pope or his equivalent. The Catholic Church is a very top down organization. Other churches, even when they are members of other religious bodies, still have more of a grassroots structure. The Catholic Church has the Archdioceses, which are subservient to Rome.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (pvjTE)

248 I dont know what a Pucci pocket square is but it sounds ghey as hell.

Posted by: The Gods of Olympus at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (UdKB7)

249 "I Knew They Would Never Let Me Be President" -- Hillary

"The generals betrayed me!!" -- guess who

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (KxbBq)

250 242. If I were advising TGE, I'd direct a low-level staffer to send Felonia cards and the like for her birthday, anniversary, Chubbles' birthday, spawn of chubbles' anniversary and birthday, arbor day.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (fA1SL)

251 Give the lady a CIGAR and be done with her.

Posted by: saf at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (5IHGB)

252 Amy, Huma, and H. How does a 3-way go with them?

Triangulation? Wasn't Bill the master at that?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (MVssx)

253 I used to ask Hillary supporters to name one accomplishment of hers as either Senator or Secretary of State. No one ever gave me an answer or even tried to.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (5HBd1)

254 -
--
Agreed! Catholics tend to be left wing and Evangelicals tend to be right wing.





Posted by: Anon Y. Mous



________



I wonder how much of that is just regional.



Evangelicals are heavy in the South, Catholics heavy in the NorthEast.



Is it geography or religion. Or both?





Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM

----------------------------------

Around here (rural Kansas) Catholics are very conservative, but, then again, so is everyone else. The C-Hag received less than 6% of the vote in this county.






Posted by: irright at April 20, 2018 07:12 PM (RVcmP)

255 Cnn chyron WaPo saying Sessions has told WH he might quit if Rosenstein fired. Ha ha.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:12 PM (PUmDY)

256 253 I used to ask Hillary supporters to name one accomplishment of hers as either Senator or Secretary of State. No one ever gave me an answer or even tried to.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (5HBd1)

airmiles
lol

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 20, 2018 07:12 PM (hMwEB)

257 213 Next up: She didn't really want to be president anyway.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2018 07:03 PM (gC2IV)

Later: She's too good to be President.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 20, 2018 07:13 PM (J7NdS)

258 This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 20, 2018 07:13 PM (EZebt)

259 Not to go off-topic (but the comment count is over 100)...

Young Andrew proclaimed himself to be undocumented. So put him on a plane for Napoli, or Salerno?

Posted by: Fox2! at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (brIR5)

260 But, most non-Catholic churches don't even have a Pope or his equivalent. The Catholic Church is a very top down organization. Other churches, even when they are members of other religious bodies, still have more of a grassroots structure. The Catholic Church has the Archdioceses, which are subservient to Rome.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (pvjTE)

how the Catholic church choses to run its business is not relevant to how Catholics vote

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (bUjCl)

261 259. Calais or points west. That's where wogs begin.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (fA1SL)

262 She's in the paranoid schizophrenic stage now.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (+y/Ru)


She's tracing out Algore's trajectory. He too thought it was his turn, and he too lost his shit when he was defeated.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (GBxj/)

263 I am very disappointed in Claude Raines. Not only is he dead, but he is also a dogged sycophant to Hillary!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (sCUYC)

264 Look at Amy's photo. She's every driver with the blue bumper sticker they'll never tale off.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (MVssx)

265 Young Andrew proclaimed himself to be undocumented. So put him on a plane for Napoli, or Salerno?

Posted by: Fox2! at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (brIR5)

++++

Syria.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:15 PM (pvjTE)

266 She was campaigning three days a week.

Yet, it's someone else's fault.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 07:15 PM (oVJmc)

267 An enemies list with people rated one to seven because everyone was an enemy. No one could be a ten because no one was safe. (Assuming 7 was the least enemy enemy)

Posted by: wodun at April 20, 2018 07:15 PM (lFga6)

268 Especially in the Northeast Irish and Italian Catholics often find it hard to vote R because of a perception that it's the Country Club party. Reagan was an exception. Trump's rebranding can have a big effect here, and even carry black and Hispanic males

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2018 07:16 PM (qMV6r)

269 261 259. Calais or points west. That's where wogs begin.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (fA1SL)

Watch who you are calling a wog....

What are choice Slavic epithets?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:16 PM (sCUYC)

270 Friday Flash Email Traffic.

Take your chances with a 1916 Mauser. $99.99

http://bit.ly/2Jbreyz

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 20, 2018 07:16 PM (yQpMk)

271 266 She was campaigning three days a week.

Yet, it's someone else's fault.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 07:15 PM (oVJmc)

Sometimes even for two weeks in a month.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 20, 2018 07:16 PM (Dp6qK)

272 Remember when she went to Chipotle? That was funny.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:16 PM (PUmDY)

273
If one were to subscribe to the theory I have, that Jews are understandably very well versed in history, very well cognizant of left wing violence, then it takes very few leaps of faith to realize that lying to exit-pollsters is very much in their self interest.

With that I exit for the night.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 20, 2018 07:16 PM (LOgQ4)

274 Hillary enjoys nothing more than flirting with a handsome, preferably straight man

For once I'm thankful that I'm not handsome.

Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

275 272 Remember when she went to Chipotle? That was funny.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:16 PM (PUmDY)

Yeah, Woman of the People.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:17 PM (sCUYC)

276
262 She's in the paranoid schizophrenic stage now.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 06:38 PM (+y/Ru)

She's tracing out Algore's trajectory. He too thought it was his turn, and he too lost his shit when he was defeated.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (GBxj/)





She must have stayed indoors during the "grow a beard" phase....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2018 07:17 PM (eXA4G)

277 It seems like a lot of the insanity of the Democrat Party is breaking off and floating to the surface this week.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 06:59 PM (oVJmc)

The Wreck of the DNC
It was the party DNCThat sailed the election seas,And they brought along HillaryAs their nominee.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 20, 2018 07:17 PM (0QYMt)

278 For once I'm thankful that I'm not handsome.
Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

And straight ??

Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2018 07:18 PM (Ymy4N)

279 She must have stayed indoors during the "grow a beard" phase....


She's had Bill for decades.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 20, 2018 07:18 PM (yQpMk)

280 I thought of Killary until she lost the election, then I thought of her no more.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 20, 2018 07:18 PM (RLBUL)

281 Hillary enjoys nothing more than flirting with a handsome, preferably straight man

Yeah, right. Pull the other one, it plays "Jingle Bells."

The Reds are just phoning it in now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:18 PM (GBxj/)

282 269. Standard? Inostranyets - 'furriner.' Blyat - standard curse word, for all situations. Korva - foul and also suitable for all situations. Generally, true slav doesn't call names so much as describes intent to defile the honor of an enemy's entire womenfolk, usually at the enemy's funeral mass.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:18 PM (fA1SL)

283 Remember when she went to Chipotle? That was funny.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:16 PM (PUmDY)
---
I happen to know that she talked to somebody who talked to the counter person.

Posted by: Axeman at April 20, 2018 07:18 PM (vDqXW)

284 278 For once I'm thankful that I'm not handsome.
Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

And straight ??
Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2018 07:18 PM (Ymy4N)

He did not say that. No need to get crazy, here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:18 PM (sCUYC)

285 275, she was going for the hipster doofus vote.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:19 PM (PUmDY)

286 They. It was one guy, Hillary. One crazy guy running against you and yours as well as his own party.

You're lucky he was alone.

Posted by: t-bird at April 20, 2018 07:19 PM (eHYux)

287 Hillary was going to make it rain for the Inner Inner D party. That's why they wanted her

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2018 07:19 PM (qMV6r)

288 2020 - It's finally her turn!

Cue Jackson Browne Running on Empty.

Posted by: An Observation at April 20, 2018 07:19 PM (QGEI2)

289 >>>She was campaigning three days a week.<<<

Jesus, even Fred Thompson was more dedicated than this.

Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2018 07:19 PM (VuZ3C)

290 250 242. If I were advising TGE, I'd direct a low-level staffer to send Felonia cards and the like for her birthday, anniversary, Chubbles' birthday, spawn of chubbles' anniversary and birthday, arbor day.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:11 PM (fA1SL)

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Brilliant!

Greetings and salutations from the White House on your birthday!

The White House extends its best wishes on the birth of your grandchild.

Greetings from the White House. Wish you were here!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2018 07:19 PM (gC2IV)

291 261 259. Calais or points west. That's where wogs begin.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (fA1SL)

I always thought it was Dover.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 20, 2018 07:20 PM (brIR5)

292 263 I am very disappointed in Claude Raines. Not only is he dead, but he is also a dogged sycophant to Hillary!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (sCUYC)

I don't see it

Posted by: The invisible man at April 20, 2018 07:20 PM (Ymy4N)

293 285 275, she was going for the hipster doofus vote.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:19 PM (PUmDY)


She got that, except for some defections to Bernie.

It was the massive turnout of Bollard-Americans that did her in.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:20 PM (GBxj/)

294 The US Jewish population is about the same as Israel's. Amazingly they each have about 40% of all the Jews in the world
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2018 07:07 PM (qMV6r)

*types

*deletes

Posted by: golfman at April 20, 2018 07:20 PM (If3tB)

295 291. Channel Islands - comparatively wog-free.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:20 PM (fA1SL)

296 Al Gore lost with much more grace than Hillary. The Supreme Court stepped in on that one. And Gore stepped back. I wish he had plowed ahead. I never liked how that election was decided.

Al Gore went away and did something different, he didn't go on a pity and blame tour like Pantsuit.

So, though no fan of ManBearPig, I can't put them in the same category. In fact, comparing them makes her look even worse. Which is pretty hard to do. She is pretty maxed out.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 07:21 PM (qV3Xe)

297 Jesus, even Fred Thompson was more dedicated than this.
Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2018 07:19 PM (VuZ3C)

Hey, do not sully the name of dear departed Fred Thompson.

He might hear you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:22 PM (sCUYC)

298 "Hillary enjoys nothing more than flirting with a handsome, preferably straight man."

Oh. OK. Now I'm totally convinced she's not a lesbian.

I guess I was way off base.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:22 PM (GBxj/)

299
266 She was campaigning three days a week.

Yet, it's someone else's fault.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 20, 2018 07:15 PM (oVJmc)







Must be why she got only 78 votes for every 100 to Trump.

One of you math whizzes will need to check my figures though.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2018 07:22 PM (eXA4G)

300 I'm not saying that Catholics are puppets. But, most non-Catholic churches don't even have a Pope or his equivalent. The Catholic Church is a very top down organization. Other churches, even when they are members of other religious bodies, still have more of a grassroots structure. The Catholic Church has the Archdioceses, which are subservient to Rome."

In the English speaking world, that's a fight that began in 1534 with Henry VIII. It's not as vicious a fight as it used to be, but it's still there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2018 07:23 PM (V2Yro)

301 Hillary enjoys nothing more than flirting with a handsome, preferably straight man



I totally believe this. It rings true. The psychological reasons are obvious, but I won't bore you with them.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 07:23 PM (qV3Xe)

302 how the Catholic church choses to run its business is not relevant to how Catholics vote

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (bUjCl)

++++

It's not 100% dispositive, but it is relevant. The Vatican says building walls is wrong; let the immigrants flow. Also, no to abortion. Against the death penalty.

Now, many Catholics will ignore this stuff and vote the way they want and still go to church on Sunday. They even have a term for it Cafeteria Catholics.

Others will follow the church's teaching religiously. Still others will decide to switch faiths and find something closer to their beliefs.

Over time, either the congregation will move towards the leadership, or the leadership will move towards the congregation. Since the Catholic Church is so top down, the leadership is very slow to change.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:23 PM (pvjTE)

303 If one were to subscribe to the theory I have, that Jews are understandably very well versed in history, very well cognizant of left wing violence, then it takes very few leaps of faith to realize that lying to exit-pollsters is very much in their self interest.

With that I exit for the night.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic

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That doesn't match up with my personal experience, I would say those surveys are fairly accurate.

I would say being Jewish is makes it about 90% likely you're going to be VERY liberal and outspoken about it.

It's funny too because the Left doesn't even pretend to not want to see Israel destroyed, but American Jews just don't seem to care all that much. Not that I care much about my "people" in Western Europe either.


Posted by: Maritime at April 20, 2018 07:24 PM (lKmt3)

304 She was campaigning three days a week.
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In CA and NY.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2018 07:24 PM (VBKy9)

305 Please, please God make this stupid scrunt stay around forevah!

Posted by: billygoat at April 20, 2018 07:24 PM (M2d71)

306 295 291. Channel Islands - comparatively wog-free.

Granted.

But you have to beg the Lord's aid in exercising your feudal rights in Norman French.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 20, 2018 07:25 PM (brIR5)

307 Must be why she got only 78 votes for every 100 to Trump.

One of you math whizzes will need to check my figures though.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2018 07:22 PM (eXA4G)

No. It was due to lack of available feminine hygiene products.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 20, 2018 07:25 PM (Dp6qK)

308 Trump wiped his ass with you, like a cloth.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 20, 2018 07:25 PM (M+Lyo)

309 After the lawsuit, Gore had "grace," I guess.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:26 PM (PUmDY)

310 ... preferably straight man."
....and Pucci pocket squares."

So I see the straight thing was not a hard and fast rule, then.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 20, 2018 07:27 PM (LWu6U)

311
Yep, we got lucky with Trump.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at April 20, 2018 07:27 PM (roQNm)

312 It's not 100% dispositive, but it is relevant. The Vatican says building walls is wrong; let the immigrants flow. Also, no to abortion. "

The Mormon Vatican says the same things, and the rest of us give them leeway and still call them conservatives.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2018 07:27 PM (V2Yro)

313 I will mention, best slav insult ever, I learned from my grandfather.

' I shit on your mother's beard. '

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:28 PM (fA1SL)

314 Jews are fleeing Germany and France in the thousands...the ones sho can afford to. The article didn't say where they were going. I hope they come here. I think for awhile they were expected to go to Britain, but that was before Londoninstan.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 07:28 PM (qV3Xe)

315 She's tracing out Algore's trajectory. He too thought it was his turn, and he too lost his shit when he was defeated.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:14 PM (GBxj/)

And she and her team came up with "Collusion". But she already made her billions.

Guess we'll be debating collusion in 20 years.

Posted by: golfman at April 20, 2018 07:29 PM (If3tB)

316 313 I will mention, best slav insult ever, I learned from my grandfather.

' I shit on your mother's beard. '
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:28 PM (fA1SL)

Colorful. Certainly paints a picture.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:29 PM (sCUYC)

317 Gag.

Hilary, you horrible beast, you. Just. Go. Away.

Posted by: Rosasharn at April 20, 2018 07:29 PM (PzBTm)

318 She was campaigning three days a week.
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In CA and NY.

Maybe campaigning in Canada was not an efficient use of her time.

Posted by: X-ray at April 20, 2018 07:30 PM (Rrifi)

319 After the lawsuit, Gore had "grace," I guess.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:26 PM (PUmDY)


I thinked I blanked that. Didn't he decided against it? Or was it thrown out.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 07:30 PM (qV3Xe)

320 "i knew they would never let me be president."

she's on to us.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 20, 2018 07:30 PM (Pg+x7)

321 Like I said, Catholics are a big diverse lot who on average vote much like your average American.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2018 07:31 PM (qMV6r)

322 Magnum opus of slav vulgarity & insults - even has a painting to commemorate its composition - Reply of the Zaporozhian Host to Sultan Mehmed.

https://tinyurl.com/glvmsdk

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:31 PM (fA1SL)

323 It went to the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:32 PM (PUmDY)

324 The Mormon Vatican says the same things, and the rest of us give them leeway and still call them conservatives.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2018 07:27 PM (V2Yro)

The DC and WSJ Vatican demand they define Conservative.

Posted by: golfman at April 20, 2018 07:32 PM (If3tB)

325 A girls gotta do what a girls gotta do

Posted by: Libby Holman at April 20, 2018 07:32 PM (Ymy4N)

326 Who numbers their hate level?


That just hit me.

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2018 07:32 PM (+lOpA)

327 186---Agreed! Catholics tend to be left wing and Evangelicals tend to be right wing.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 06:57 PM (pvjTE)
-------------------------
FALSE. The Catholic vote, starting in 1980, has been pretty much the same as the national vote. Where there has been a statistically significant lean, it's been to the right.

The real divide is between traditionalist Catholics, who tend heavily right, and the Social Justice ones and CINOs, who tend left.




Posted by: Zombie Swayze at April 20, 2018 07:33 PM (0jtPF)

328 310 ... preferably straight man."
....and Pucci pocket squares."

So I see the straight thing was not a hard and fast rule, then.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 20, 2018 07:27 PM (LWu6U)


The tough part was finding a straight man in Democrat HQ.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:33 PM (GBxj/)

329 ManBearPig and Hildebeast results and aftermaths were not alike, IMO. Just, no.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 07:33 PM (qV3Xe)

330 312 It's not 100% dispositive, but it is relevant. The Vatican says building walls is wrong; let the immigrants flow. Also, no to abortion. "

The Mormon Vatican says the same things, and the rest of us give them leeway and still call them conservatives.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2018 07:27 PM (V2Yro)

++++

Are all three of those official Mormon Church policy? I'm not all that familiar with their policies.

Oh, wait. You clipped off the death penalty part. So, I guess, they are ok with the death penalty? The no on abortion sounds likeit would be true.

But, on immigration, is there a specific policy by the main branch of Mormons? (LDS?)

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:33 PM (pvjTE)

331 Magnum opus of slav vulgarity & insults - even has a painting to commemorate its composition - Reply of the Zaporozhian Host to Sultan Mehmed.

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I didn't even know Trump was that old.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 20, 2018 07:33 PM (+y/Ru)

332 Magnum opus of slav vulgarity & insults - even has a painting to commemorate its composition - Reply of the Zaporozhian Host to Sultan Mehmed. \
==


meh

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 07:35 PM (bUjCl)

333 Hillary is like herpes. You think it's gone then BAM! An irritating bumpy rash thats sure to destroy any sexual mood.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 20, 2018 07:35 PM (rLyG8)

334 Catholics tend to be left wing and Evangelicals tend to be right wing. And everyone else is hot wings.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 20, 2018 07:35 PM (qV3Xe)

335 I knew they would never let me be President.

Posted by: Alf Landon at April 20, 2018 07:35 PM (cp1if)

336 The appalling part is that she obviously didn't care about the process of becoming president. No wonder she didn't show up in places she thought were in the bag, like Michigan. She hated being around the "deplorables." Why bother if you are going to win anyway? And that stuff was really the only thing Trump loved. God, we dodged such a huge bullet.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at April 20, 2018 07:36 PM (g32Cf)

337 Hillary is slowly going insane, twisting in the wind. Her own liberal media is just helping her off the edge.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 20, 2018 07:36 PM (M+Lyo)

338 Magnum opus of slav vulgarity & insults - even has a painting to commemorate its composition - Reply of the Zaporozhian Host to Sultan Mehmed.
=====

How I picture a Moron Meet-Up

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at April 20, 2018 07:36 PM (nILVB)

339 Whenever I see the name Henry VII I immediate hear flutes.


It's like Frau Blucher.

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2018 07:36 PM (+lOpA)

340 261 Rockaway Beach or points west.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 20, 2018 07:37 PM (2835Q)

341 For all the lesbian theories of those assholes at AoSHQ ..."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:38 PM (GBxj/)

342 332. Meh? The freaking Sultan of the Ottoman Empire threatens punishment and claims divine right to do so, all in an effort to get these heroes of the SMR to please stop raiding his territory, and they reply as they do? These guys rode horses because their balls dragged when they walked.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:38 PM (fA1SL)

343 I agree with you Prof. He was still bitter as crap, though. The sec of State of FL had certified the results. They destroyed that woman.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:38 PM (PUmDY)

344 Watched the video.
Even back then, Alyssa Milano had crazy eyes.

Posted by: Sal at April 20, 2018 07:38 PM (hA4a+)

345 339 Whenever I see the name Henry VII I immediate hear flutes.

I think of the song by Herrmans Hermits. Earwig time, your welcome.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 20, 2018 07:38 PM (rLyG8)

346 338. I've had the same thought many's the time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:38 PM (fA1SL)

347 I knew they would never let me be a contender!

Posted by: Terry Malloy at April 20, 2018 07:39 PM (djCea)

348 I'm not mormon, I've just always known quite a few. One shortcut - everything Mitt Romney and Jeff Flake say is exactly aligned with the Church's views.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2018 07:39 PM (V2Yro)

349 >>>ManBearPig and Hildebeast results and aftermaths were not alike, IMO. Just, no.<<<

Hilldawg has become a sniveling, bitter hag because her vagina is dry and chaffing and men don't want to fuck her anymore. ManBearPig is on a crusade to exterminate all of humanity with his insane, atmospheric pseudoscience.

Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2018 07:39 PM (VuZ3C)

350 It is probably best she keeps making appearances, until she is fitted for orange at least.

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2018 07:40 PM (aC6Sd)

351 Watched the video.
Even back then, Alyssa Milano had crazy eyes.
Posted by: Sal at April 20, 2018 07:38 PM (hA4a+)

You would have crazy eyes too if you were a child sodomized by creepy TV producers. That much crazy doesn't happen by itself. Maybe not, but it's an explanation.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 20, 2018 07:40 PM (rLyG8)

352 I knew they would never let me be a legitimate businessman.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at April 20, 2018 07:40 PM (yQpMk)

353 Cnn chyron WaPo saying Sessions has told WH he might quit if Rosenstein fired. Ha ha.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:12 PM (PUmDY)
**************
CNN... you must have a strong stomach.

If Sessions did say that I think it's because he's in over his head and depends on Rosenstein to tell him what to do.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (PvFoN)

354 Meh? The freaking Sultan of the Ottoman Empire threatens punishment and claims divine right to do so, all in an effort to get these heroes of the SMR to please stop raiding his territory, and they reply as they do? These guys rode horses because their balls dragged when they walked.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 20, 2018 07:38 PM (fA1SL)

fine, fine

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (bUjCl)

355
"For all the lesbian theories, Hillary enjoys nothing more than flirting with a handsome, preferably straight man."
...
Clinton kept spiritual adviser Burns Strider on the 2008 campaign despite repeated accusations of harassment by campaign staff



It burns when I'm astride her.

Posted by: Ed "preferably straight" Henry at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (EzdLW)

356 Eh. These kinda books, I always wonde rhow much is true and how much is invention, and how much is "this is how I remember it" because in the past I have been SURE something happened then find out later I misunderstood or had it remembered wrong.

Did Hillary say and do all this stuff? Were staffers really like that? Yes, the "they wouldn't let me win" line sounds awfully plausible, and it hits me in all the right confirmation bias buttons but its third hand: supposedly she said it, then a writer says it, then someone reports the writer said it.

So its hard to get too interested and make any real statements about any of it. Yeah, like the "we'll be hanging" line its probably true, or at least sounds awfully plausible. But Hillary is messed up and crazy enough to start with and severely unlikable without rumors and gossipy books.

Even back then, Alyssa Milano had crazy eyes.

I think Alyssa was passed around like a toy by Hollywood types since the age of 12. She's a mess for a reason.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (39g3+)

357 So when she means 'they':

I am assuming the VRWC- which is hilarious in light of recent events.

Joos? Because it is always the Joos?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (sCUYC)

358 Late as usual.


She's a stupid, criminal sociopath. Obviously. Has always been. Obviously.


That she could be a senator, or a prez candidate, is a devastating indictment of the country. But of course same goes for Obama.


And ace I'm sure someone here has discussed the "I cried" part of the dumb reporterette's story. Unsurprising, and pathetic.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (QDnY+)

359 Thank goodness Cap and Trade never passed. They were going to have an Exchange in Chicago.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (PUmDY)

360 How insulated do you have to be to think that thousands of people who would stand in line for hours in all weathers just to go to a rally wouldn't stand in a line for 45 minutes to vote?

Posted by: Sal at April 20, 2018 07:43 PM (hA4a+)

361 The reason the hate list stops at level seven is that anybody at a higher level of hate goes on the Arkancide list.

Posted by: An Observation at April 20, 2018 07:43 PM (QGEI2)

362 If Sessions did say that I think it's because he's in over his head and depends on Rosenstein to tell him what to do.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (PvFoN)

I see Rudy in the justice departments future.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 20, 2018 07:43 PM (rLyG8)

363
Hillary is paranoid. There is plenty of evidence.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2018 07:44 PM (w1zJX)

364 I knew they would let me shoot off all these fireworks..

Posted by: Election night barge in the Hudson tender at April 20, 2018 07:44 PM (ICWiF)

365 I listen to music and just watch the chyrons sometimes.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 20, 2018 07:44 PM (PUmDY)

366 Wonder if anyone has recommended plexaderm to Lord Jim

Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2018 07:44 PM (Ymy4N)

367 The appalling part is that she obviously didn't care about the process of becoming president. No wonder she didn't show up in places she thought were in the bag, like Michigan.

I think she hates being around people in general. She selects a few she can stomach and the rest she hates.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2018 07:44 PM (39g3+)

368 After seeing that painting of the Zaporzhian Host, I looked up the text of their letter, of which a copy still exists. (presumably Mehmet destroyed the original in a fit of rage as soon as he saw it) That was one of the funniest things I have read, those guys would have fit in with us! I remember one line in particular, Mehmet had bragged in a letter to them about how many lands he controlled, and when they wrote back they said "oh yes, you are the Great Goatfucker of Egypt". Imagine saying that to a guy who thinks he's an Emperor.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2018 07:45 PM (V2Yro)

369 302----It's not 100% dispositive, but it is relevant. The Vatican says building walls is wrong; let the immigrants flow. Also, no to abortion. Against the death penalty.

Now, many Catholics will ignore this stuff and vote the way they want and still go to church on Sunday. They even have a term for it Cafeteria Catholics.

Others will follow the church's teaching religiously. Still others will decide to switch faiths and find something closer to their beliefs.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:23 PM (pvjTE)
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You are completely ignorant on this subject.

"Church teaching" and statements by a pope are not the same thing.

And "cafeteria Catholics" are those who pick and choose official DOCTRINES, not bits of papal chit-chat.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 20, 2018 07:45 PM (0jtPF)

370 I knew they wouldn't let me be respected.

Posted by: Fredo Corleone at April 20, 2018 07:45 PM (yQpMk)

371 but can you imagine what a different news cycle there'd be:

every press conference a love-in, every newscast cooing "join us.... be part of us... no more conflict... only peace..."

sort of like invasion of the body snatchers.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 20, 2018 07:45 PM (Pg+x7)

372 "ManBearPig is on a crusade to exterminate all of humanity with his insane, atmospheric pseudoscience."

The part that annoys me most, is because I'm a cheap ass Scotsman. I do way more than he does to protect the fake BS he was selling.

Posted by: X-ray at April 20, 2018 07:45 PM (Rrifi)

373 363
Hillary is paranoid. There is plenty of evidence.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2018 07:44 PM (w1zJX)

Understatement threadwinner!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 20, 2018 07:45 PM (sCUYC)

374 And ace I'm sure someone here has discussed the "I cried" part of the dumb reporterette's story. Unsurprising, and pathetic.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 20, 2018 07:42 PM (QDnY+)


I'm calling it right here: anyone who cries over an election result is too emotionally unstable to be allowed to vote.

Did that airline pilot chick blub when an engine blew up and whacked out a passenger? No. She just got on with the job. That's what adults do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:46 PM (GBxj/)

375 Yeah, and the thing about Trump being psycholoically "unfit" to be president - one has to be very, very stupid - NPR stupid - to "think" such a stupid thing.


With ridiculous figures like Obama and Clinton (both of them), the intellectual and character deficiencies are so dramatic and disqualifying that one doesn't reach the psychological fitness box on the evaluation form.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 20, 2018 07:46 PM (QDnY+)

376 I knew they would never let me remain a Beatle.

Posted by: Pete Best at April 20, 2018 07:46 PM (djCea)

377 Did that airline pilot chick blub when an engine blew up and whacked out a passenger? No. She just got on with the job. That's what adults do.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:46 PM (GBxj/)

Exactly.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 20, 2018 07:47 PM (rLyG8)

378 nood

Posted by: IC at April 20, 2018 07:47 PM (a0IVu)

379 361 The reason the hate list stops at level seven is that anybody at a higher level of hate goes on the Arkancide list.
Posted by: An Observation at April 20, 2018 07:43 PM (QGEI2)


I got to the thread late and haven't read everything, but that's a possible threadwinner.

Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2018 07:47 PM (sdi6R)

380 I knew They was going to bomb at the box office.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283632/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1

Posted by: Wes Craven Presents at April 20, 2018 07:47 PM (EzdLW)

381 You are completely ignorant on this subject.

"Church teaching" and statements by a pope are not the same thing.

And "cafeteria Catholics" are those who pick and choose official DOCTRINES, not bits of papal chit-chat.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 20, 2018 07:45 PM (0jtPF)

++++

Bullshit. I am a former Catholic and know many still in the church. And anyone who thinks the church's teachings are divorced from what the Pope has to say is beyond ignorant and straying into delusional.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:47 PM (pvjTE)

382 I knew they wouldn't let me set the TransAtlantic record.

Posted by: Captain Edward John Smith at April 20, 2018 07:48 PM (yQpMk)

383 I mean take the marquee line here "I knew they wouldn't let me be president." Its begging for analysis and discussion. But we don't even know she said it. I mean it sounds plausible, but I despise the woman and I'll be willing to buy into just about every awful thing she's attributed to having said.

If we knew for sure, we could look at the psychosis and arrogance in the line: "they" being the American people instead of "we." "let me be president" as opposed to "serve them as president" or "take office." She sounds like she deserved the job simply by being her. All plausible Hillary stuff.

But did she really say it? Or is this just some reporterette hoping to make some book sales?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2018 07:48 PM (39g3+)

384 Bullshit. I am a former Catholic and know many still in the church. And anyone who thinks the church's teachings are divorced from what the Pope has to say is beyond ignorant and straying into delusional.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 07:47 PM (pvjTE)
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Ignorant.
Don't make me laugh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 20, 2018 07:49 PM (0jtPF)

385 I know how she feels. I've known since high school that Women would never allow me to have a girl friend. Because of my Mother and my Sister hating me.

They talk to each other you know. They have secret ways of communicating. They spread the word to all their girlfriends and even some women they don't know in other states.

It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

Posted by: jakee308 at April 20, 2018 07:49 PM (z96ye)

386 I knew they wouldn't let me Quarterback the Bears. *RING* "Hello?" pause "No kidding, be right there."

Hey, uh, I think I'm on my way to Halas Hall.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 20, 2018 07:50 PM (rLyG8)

387 Yes, the "they wouldn't let me win" line sounds awfully plausible, and it hits me in all the right confirmation bias buttons but its third hand: supposedly she said it, then a writer says it, then someone reports the writer said it.

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"Vast right wing conspiracy"

Especially, see: https://preview.tinyurl.com/o2a6axa

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2018 07:51 PM (nBBdT)

388 Trump offers Hilary 5cents on the dollar for unused election night fireworks hilarious!!!! https://tinyurl.com/ycrbho9v

Posted by: Election night barge in the Hudson tender at April 20, 2018 07:51 PM (ICWiF)

389 She's talking about our sacred, pure and uncorruptible election process, right?

Posted by: Mega at April 20, 2018 07:52 PM (rv0Fo)

390 They talk to each other you know. They have secret ways of communicating. They spread the word to all their girlfriends and even some women they don't know in other states.

It's a conspiracy I tell ya.
Posted by: jakee308
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Financed by the Koch brothers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2018 07:52 PM (nBBdT)

391 I knew they would never let me be a Viking.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2018 07:54 PM (nBBdT)

392 I knew they wouldn't let us keep our doctor.

Posted by: Obamacare customers at April 20, 2018 07:54 PM (ICWiF)

393 It's not 100% dispositive, but it is relevant. The Vatican says building walls is wrong; let the immigrants flow. Also, no to abortion. Against the death penalty.


Is this the same Vatican that is surrounded by a wall and guarded by the Swiss Guard?

Posted by: Infidel at April 20, 2018 07:57 PM (a3OL0)

394 Clinton campaigned hard in FL, PA and NC. She lost all three. Her campaigning in Wisconsin would not have made a difference. I dare say MI was stolen from Trump, probably NH too.

I also think the media not calling GA for Trump may have impacted CO Republican voter turnout. There was no reason on earth for GA not to be called for Trump when the polls closed.

Posted by: MAGA at April 20, 2018 07:57 PM (LnOh3)

395 "Just when I thought I was in, they pull me out."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2018 07:59 PM (GBxj/)

396 The devil is not mocked.

Posted by: Zombie manly wade wellman at April 20, 2018 08:02 PM (sXefu)

397 The Catholic Catechism instructs the faithful that good government has two duties, both of which must be carried out and neither of which can be ignored. The first duty is to welcome the foreigner out of charity and respect for the human person. Persons have the right to immigrate and thus government must accommodate this right to the greatest extent possible, especially financially blessed nations: "The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him." Catholic Catechism, 2241.

The second duty is to secure one's border and enforce the law for the sake of the common good. Sovereign nations have the right to enforce their laws and all persons must respect the legitimate exercise of this right: "Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens." Catholic Catechism, 2241.

In January 2003, the U.S. Catholic Bishops released a pastoral letter on migration entitled, "Strangers No Longer: Together on the Journey of Hope." In their letter, the Bishops stressed that, "[w]hen persons cannot find employment in their country of origin to support themselves and their families, they have a right to find work elsewhere in order to survive. Sovereign nations should provide ways to accommodate this right." No. 35. The Bishops made clear that the "[m]ore powerful economic nations...have a stronger obligation to accommodate migration flows." No. 36.

USCCB Position

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) opposes "enforcement only" immigration policies and supports comprehensive immigration reform. In Strangers No Longer: Together on the Journey of Hope, the U.S. Catholic Bishops outlined the elements of their proposal for comprehensive immigration reform.


http://tinyurl.com/9l96gwc

Who is the USCCB?

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) is an assembly of the hierarchy of the United States and the U.S. Virgin Islands who jointly exercise certain pastoral functions on behalf of the Christian faithful of the United States. The purpose of the Conference is to promote the greater good which the Church offers humankind, especially through forms and programs of the apostolate fittingly adapted to the circumstances of time and place. This purpose is drawn from the universal law of the Church and applies to the episcopal conferences which are established all over the world for the same purpose.

Those who are ignorant of Church policy might want to familiarize themselves with what the leadership is putting out. As opposed to blathering on about things they don't know.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2018 08:04 PM (pvjTE)

398 In the US Catholic Church there is a huge fight brewing. Pope Francis is not popular with the lay members of the faith but is more so with the front line priests.

For the moment the bishops seem to be on the side of the lay people but I think that is a near thing.

The Priesthood is aging and unless a major change happens the Church will be facing a crisis of leadership.

It is already more common to have a priest from overseas saying mass in the US then a native born priest.

Posted by: Big V at April 20, 2018 08:06 PM (ZvLtE)

399 Who?

Posted by: Grump928


The guy on first.

Posted by: JT at April 20, 2018 08:14 PM (LhPUP)

400 If I was in charge I would use intel to find out where she is flying to next and order a squadron of P-38's to intercept her and shoot her out of the sky.

Posted by: torabora at April 20, 2018 08:26 PM (Y274z)

401 I love the smell of Ace at full mast early in the morning.

Posted by: Born Free at April 20, 2018 08:28 PM (y7Mkd)

402 Darkly Conspiratorial Hillary Clinton: "I Knew They Would Never Let Me Be President"

Who is this (((They))) Cankles is raving about?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 20, 2018 08:29 PM (9BLnV)

403 When she is fitted for her orange jumpsuit they will need to get the leggings cuffs XXXL.

Posted by: torabora at April 20, 2018 08:30 PM (Y274z)

404 Did that airline pilot chick blub when an engine blew up and whacked out a passenger? No. She just got on with the job. That's what adults do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


THIS !

She didn't say "I KNEW they'd never let me fly a plane with 2 engines"

Posted by: JT at April 20, 2018 08:33 PM (LhPUP)

405 The DNC, inspired by fabulist long hauler Hillarity Chappaquack, decided to drive the Russia Trump counterfit lawsuit buggy all the way to the cul de sac. Hear me: They are NOT suing Imran Awan, who worked for several House Democrats, including Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, for stealing their salacious and succulent docs. Why?

Posted by: Boris Karloff at April 20, 2018 09:16 PM (woq/D)

406 Of course she believes in conspiracies. She's committed so many that she can't even remember them all.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 20, 2018 09:59 PM (Ndje9)

407 Ah Hillary ever intelligent straight male in the USA wants to just slap the bejabbers out of you.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 21, 2018 12:12 AM (Sda6L)

408 I doubt "deplorable" had much effect for or against Hillary's vote tally, but "irredeemable" would have motivated Christians to oppose the wannabe Second Coming in the form of a haggard, old female. After all, Christ is sited, (at least four times in the gospels,) instructing his followers to leave God's judgement to God.

Posted by: Marooned at April 21, 2018 11:14 AM (8hRlF)

409 "Queen Bee" dynamics is, unfortunately, <a href="https://tinyurl.com/y89tyaoz">standard for female social interactions</a>.
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/dzcuo8">All female organizations don't function well.</a>

Posted by: LarryD at April 21, 2018 05:09 PM (349br)

410 Shes practically Margret Thatcher, except for the winning and running a country and shit.

So you're saying she's Madeline Albright?

Posted by: Dagwood at April 21, 2018 06:26 PM (7Hhdr)

411 I have read so many posts about the blogger lovers however this article is genuinely a pleasant paragraph,
keep it up.

Posted by: henry mahon plymouth at May 19, 2018 07:44 PM (Ui/nJ)

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