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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | NYT: ACTING ON MUELLER'S CRIMINAL REFERRAL, FBI RAIDS OFFICES OF TRUMP'S PERSONAL LAWYER MICHAEL COHENThey're really going to do this, aren't they? Gird your loins. This feels like the beginning of the end, one way or the other.The F.B.I. on Monday raided the office of President Trump's longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress. Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen's lawyer, who called the search "completely inappropriate and unnecessary." The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Mueller's investigation, but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York.Paying someone to keep her mouth shut is not a crime, or else everyone who pays a blackmailer is himself committing a criminal act. Not saying this woman is a blackmailer, but it's not illegal to pay off a blackmailer. The only crime I can imagine is being investigated -- pretextually -- is the claim by this porno actress and admitted liar that a thug approached her and recommended she stay silent about Trump, making a vague threat against her and her child. Is an admitted liar's claim, without any evidence that the thug has anything to do with Michael Cohen, enough for Mueller to generate a criminal referral and for the FBI to secure a warrant? Seems unlikely -- maybe there was evidence of some connection that we're not aware of. Now, unless there is some real proof that Cohen hired a thug to make a threat, I'm thinking this is a pretext -- like Sally Yates' claim that they had to investigate Michael Flynn because of a possible, hypothetical violation of the dead-letter no-longer-a-law Logan Act -- to grab up other information while allegedly investigating a crime. I can't declare this is all a set-up, though. It's hard for me to believe that Mueller would make a criminal referral based only on an admitted liar and fame-chaser's vague word, and I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that, and I can't believe a judge would issue a warrant based only on that. But it's not as hard for me to believe as it might have been two years ago. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Crap
Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2018 04:59 PM (O2RFr) 2
Firstest?
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 04:59 PM (aC6Sd) 3
You have to be fing kidding.
Posted by: RI Red - that's all, folks. at April 09, 2018 04:59 PM (vbXzc) 4
Paying someone to keep her mouth shut is not a crime, or else everyone who pays a blackmailer is himself committing a criminal act.
_________ Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones $850,000 to shut up, funny I don't remember any raids. Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (lKmt3) 5
Someone needs to shut that rat bastard mueller down..
Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (O2RFr) 6
This is a raid, boys! Everybody up against the fucking wall!
Posted by: Officer Clancy at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (bJ0w+) 7
I thought I read somewhere that Mueller got a search warrant that had no beginning or end dates. so Mueller could go back to.... and try and find something.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (ec0wE) 8
So they are basically voting themselves free helicopter ride with their actions. Have fun on the way down. Enjoy the view.
Posted by: Max Power at April 09, 2018 05:01 PM (QCc6B) 9
Ok, secondest.
Well one way or another shit is going to hit the fan, either the FBI is trying their damnest or they are biting off more than they can chew. Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 05:01 PM (aC6Sd) 10
You want proof of Russian collusion.
You'll settle for a process crime that will allow impeachment. You'll get an eleven-year-old affair with a pornstar. Posted by: Viridian at April 09, 2018 05:01 PM (uU7lV) 11
Drudge had some vague teaser up about the person who made the "threat" a few days ago. Maybe the prostitute is claiming it was Cohen himself, or someone he paid. But unless Cohen is an imbecile, there will be nothing.
Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 05:01 PM (Z48ZB) 12
4 Paying someone to keep her mouth shut is not a crime, or else everyone who pays a blackmailer is himself committing a criminal act.
Of course blackmail is a crime... Ms. Daniels should be arrested at once... Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2018 05:01 PM (O2RFr) Posted by: nip at April 09, 2018 05:01 PM (ECLaL) 14
None of those things ace finds hard to believe are hard for me to believe at all.
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:01 PM (LiyEm) 15
This is the same FBI who let Whitey Bolger stay free for decades while Mueller was in Boston.
This is the same FBI who is still trying to apprehend a missing airline mechanic over the Florida JetBlu crash. This is the same FBI who's vaunted crime labs have been shown to commit fraud to secure convictions. So why the surprise? Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (YndnO) Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (Z48ZB) 17
Mueller knows there won't be any pushback, so he'll just do whatever the hell he wants. Who is going to stop him?
Posted by: kathysaysso at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (vkS2Z) 18
So, this is what going to hell in a handbasket looks like. Wheeeee!!
Posted by: dantesed at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (88xKn) 19
What swing voter is basing their vote on letting Mueller conduct his investigation over the next several years?
This has gone on long enough, let the media howl for a week when Mueller is fired and they will be on to the next thing. Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (lKmt3) 20
hmm, wivil car?
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (Kuhyt) 21
This is what a coup looks like.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (fA1SL) 22
if it's illegal to pay someone to shush after sex. What about Clintons payoffs? and congress has a Fund that does something similar?
is That illegal? and if it's about Trump/cohen' building a casino in Russia , Is That illegal ? Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (eaoOY) 23
You dont need guns. These people are here to protect you.
Posted by: muckrack at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (RZ4iC) 24
Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant
Some judge issued a search warrant of a lawyer's office for this bullshit? That judge needs to be criminally disciplined. Seriously. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (8gDQu) 25
I smell Team Desperation. When will Hillary return?
Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (2LelM) 26
If you strike against the King, be very damn sure you have enough to take him down.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your huckleberry! at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (oHt/4) 27
We've come a long way, baby.
Everything we thought was unthinkable a year ago is now not only plausible, but likely. Posted by: Blake at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (qC1Sy) 28
Grandstanding play,makes it look like there is real smoke."His personal lawyer's office was RAIDED!"
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (LiyEm) 29
At long last Mr. Mueller, have you no sense of shame?
Posted by: Zombie Jos. Welch at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (FLifI) 30
Wisconsin John Doe writ large.
Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (G0vdT) 31
The deep state knows the end is near and is pulling out the stops
Posted by: Grad School Fool at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (swEzU) 32
isn't Mueller involved in Uranium one?
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (eaoOY) 33
I imagine the leaks are being coordinated during the inventory process.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (fA1SL) 34
Great, let's have the FBI raid the offices of Perkins, Coie to get information about the Fusion GPS dossier.
Now that lawyer's offices, and privileged attorney-client communications are fair game, let's go after them. Posted by: The ARC of History at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (Mrl1e) 35
I am without speech....unbelievable.
Posted by: Tami at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (Enq6K) 36
This is most definitely a coup. They told me that if I voted for Trump constitutional norms (like attorney-client privilege) would be destroyed, and they were right.
Posted by: NeverNeverTrump at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (2DrTr) 37
Maybe for this one, instead of a Flaming Skull we need a Burning Bush.
Posted by: Mega at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (rv0Fo) Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (EVeeU) 39
Contreras was obviously dirty, and he is a FISA court judge. Absolutely there are judges crooked enough to authorize something like this without a solid underlying charge.
For Mueller, public perception is crucial. Maybe he can persuade people that stealing the President's legal files is legitimate? Or maybe we really are in the endgame and the masks are entirely gone. Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (jRA31) 40
everytime I think the left's reached peak hysteria, they go one further.
so...what do they plan on doing? reading through trumps' lawyer's papers? what....? Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (Kuhyt) 41
What a waste of taxpayers money... One would think this is the most important thing EVAH! Pay no attention to Syria, or NK, or Iran... This is World shattering!
Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (O2RFr) 42
It's going to be great if there ends up being a post it note on the most horribleist thing that says something like "Trump can't know about this."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (ks6bw) 43
Maybe for this one, instead of a Flaming Skull we need a Burning Bush.
Posted by: Mega at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (rv0Fo) Jeb? Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (EVeeU) 44
Almost seems he's daring Trump to fire him.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (89T5c) 45
Campaign violation. Time to lock up Trump mo.
Posted by: MAGA at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (AihDr) 46
Mueller will say that Trumps lawyer made an illegal campaign contribution of $130,000 is his pretext. What makes this risible is the hundreds of millions of illegal foreign contributions that got laundered through the Hillary Foundation
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (n+6mJ) Posted by: Rick in SK at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (FZYNt) Posted by: Harry Reid at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (fuK7c) 49
Mueller just crossed the Rubicon. So now he's gone from Russia to a porn star. Which means he's got jack and shit on Trump with Russia.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (kTQeF) Posted by: Flaming Jeb! at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (oVJmc) 51
34 Great, let's have the FBI raid the offices of Perkins, Coie to get information about the Fusion GPS dossier.
---- sessions needs to strap this dog down. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (Kuhyt) 52
Seems legit. Remember the DOJ is still stonewalling the fantasy used to spy on Trump. Is this the FBI hail Mary play?
Posted by: PhilDirt at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (KXXdn) 53
There's been an unbroken string of nothingburgers. I'm betting on nothingburger.
Posted by: jd at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (cIj06) 54
Great, let's have the FBI raid the offices of Perkins, Coie to get information about the Fusion GPS dossier.
Now that lawyer's offices, and privileged attorney-client communications are fair game, let's go after them. Posted by: The ARC of History at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (Mrl1e) Yep. And I wouldn't be averse to seizing their assets, either, so that they don't have any money to cover things up with. And someone needs to clean out Mueller, his family and everyone who's ever said a good word about him. Raided and assets all seized. Fuck these people. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (8gDQu) 55
Everything we thought unimaginable a year ago is happening RIGHT NOW.
Posted by: Max Power at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (QCc6B) 56
Fuck, raid Miller's office and take all their cell phones. There are quite a few criminals working there, it's worth a shot.
Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (jRA31) 57
I can't declare this is all a set-up, though. It's hard for me to believe that Mueller would make a criminal referral based only on an admitted liar and fame-chaser's vague word, and I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that, and I can't believe a judge would issue a warrant based only on that.
I can. We've seen plenty of banana republic bullshit already. Posted by: Insomniac at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (NWiLs) Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (LOgQ4) 59
Is this some kind of bust?
Posted by: Stormy at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (rv0Fo) 60
34: FBI is playing for the other team, sorry.
And this is not the Mueller investigation, or a coincidence that Wray just stonewalled Fitton for 3 years. Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (5gaNQ) 61
it's not as if the clinton crime family hasn't left a trail of bodies and pizza corpses
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (Kuhyt) Posted by: Mitt Romney at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (FZYNt) 63
Shit just got real. I fear there's going to be bloodshed before this is all over.
Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2018 05:07 PM (bJ0w+) 64
good reason for trump to instruct fbi to fire everyone who is holding back the FISA stuff.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:07 PM (Kuhyt) 65
Thought experiment:
Assume Mueller is an evil bastard but not a total retard. What does he think the end game here will be? Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:07 PM (FLifI) 66
They're going for an obstruction of justice impeachment when someone objects to an investigation based on a false pretense.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 05:07 PM (ks6bw) 67
Relax. I am assured by the most informed authority that this is all a sideshow. The criminal indictments for those who are misusing their power are coming.
Any. Day. Now. Stop being impatient. These things take TIME. Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 09, 2018 05:07 PM (G8hDY) 68
(censored)
Posted by: nip at April 09, 2018 05:07 PM (ECLaL) 69
From last thread:
from my memory, did FBI agents storm Bill Clinton's legal counsel when he paid Paula Jones $850,000 to keep quiet? Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (lKmt3) ---------------------- Hey let's set the way-back machine for Jan 1993 when the incoming Clinton administration fired every single one of the US Attorneys. Including the US Attorney investigating Whitewater. Oh was that an "investigation" or a "matter"? Doesn't matter, Slick shut that down right quick didn't he. This deep state stuff scares the hell out of me. They are going for broke and if they win, nobody is safe. Posted by: Boots at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (EBwPV) 70
I must be stupid because I'm trying to figure out how Mueller is investigating alleged Russian collusion by seizing the records from Trump's personal attorney in order to review the alleged payment history of Trump to a porn star, for payments and incidents that occurred more than 10 years prior to being elected President. Did I get that right? Is Mueller now going to tell me that this Stormy person is a Russian operative?
Posted by: Pancake at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (LPFcl) 71
FBI is clearly in the Mueller/Rosenstein camp.
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (5gaNQ) 72
Before asking for a warrant and raiding Cohen's office, the prosecutor involved was supposed to do the following:
Alternatives to Search Warrants.In order to avoid impinging on valid attorney-client relationships, prosecutors are expected to take the least intrusive approach consistent with vigorous and effective law enforcement when evidence is sought from an attorney actively engaged in the practice of law. Consideration should be given to obtaining information from other sources or through the use of a subpoena, unless such efforts could compromise the criminal investigation or prosecution, or could result in the obstruction or destruction of evidence, or would otherwise be ineffective. NOTE: Prior approval must be obtained from the Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division to issue a subpoena to an attorney relating to the representation of a client. SeeUSAM 9-13.410. Authorization by United States Attorney or Assistant Attorney General.No application for such a search warrant may be made to a court without the express approval of the United States Attorney or pertinent Assistant Attorney General. Ordinarily, authorization of an application for such a search warrant is appropriate when there is a strong need for the information or material and less intrusive means have been considered and rejected.Prior Consultation.In addition to obtaining approval from the United States Attorney or the pertinent Assistant Attorney General, and before seeking judicial authorization for the search warrant, the federal prosecutor must consult with the Criminal Division. NOTE: Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Criminal Division as early as possible regarding a possible search of an attorney's office. Telephone No. (202) 305-4023; Fax No. (202) 305-0562. To facilitate the consultation, the prosecutor should submit the attached form (seeCriminal Resource Manual at 265) containing relevant information about the proposed search along with a draft copy of the proposed search warrant, affidavit in support thereof, and any special instructions to the searching agents regarding search procedures and procedures to be followed to ensure that the prosecution team is not "tainted" by any privileged material inadvertently seized during the search. This information should be submitted to the Criminal Division through the Office of Enforcement Operations. This procedure does not preclude any United States Attorney or Assistant Attorney General from discussing the matter personally with the Assistant Attorney General of the Criminal Division. Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your huckleberry! at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (oHt/4) 73
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Maybe for this one, instead of a Flaming Skull we need a Burning Bush. Please clap. Posted by: Flaming Jeb! Burning Bush, clap? Posted by: SFGoth at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (dZ756) 74
If Sessions just stands by, can we now officially declare he's in on it?
You think Eric Holder would have allowed the FBI to pull this shit on Obama? Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (lKmt3) 75
If I understand this correctly, this raid is unrelated to the Russian Investigation and anything they're investigating is out of Mueller's purview? On that point, its not necessarily bad for POTUS. Posted by: Serious Cat at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (+Ty8m) 76
I can. We've seen plenty of banana republic bullshit already.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (NWiLs) I fully expect it to get worse. I don't know how, but I'm girding my loins and putting on my face colander. #gallowshumor Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (EVeeU) Posted by: Michele Obama's Landing Strip at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (NoJDX) Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (89T5c) 79
This is the FBI that is refusing to hand over documents to Congress, right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (ks6bw) 80
>>>1 Drudge had some vague teaser up about the person who made the "threat" a few days ago. Maybe the prostitute is claiming it was Cohen himself, or someone he paid. But unless Cohen is an imbecile, there will be nothing.
I don't believe that's the goal. The goal is to get all of Trump's private, privileged communications with his lawyer to serve as a roadmap as to what to investigate next and what to ask under oath. Posted by: ace at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (8rNrN) 81
unless there is some real proof that Cohen hired a thug to make a threat,
___________________ Hard to believe Cohen would be that stupid. Even harder to believe that he would document the deed and keep the evidence in his client files. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (fqUgw) 82
And where is the Fing OIG Report?
I am running out of JackStraw-like patience. I'm even running out of Buddha-like patience. And I'm pissed I have to send a large check to the IRS that I really can't afford. Or want to pay. I'm pretty sure most of it goes to finance the bastards in DC. Posted by: RI Red - that's all, folks. at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (vbXzc) 83
73 50
Maybe for this one, instead of a Flaming Skull we need a Burning Bush. Please clap. Posted by: Flaming Jeb! Burning Bush, clap? Posted by: SFGoth The Clap burns or so I've been told Posted by: Rick in SK at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (FZYNt) 84
This has gone on long enough, let the media howl for a week when Mueller is fired and they will be on to the next thing.
Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (lKmt3) Trump will be removed from office for firing Mueller. That has always been his purpose. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (UBzPO) 85
maybe it was that same judge that was passing out FISA warrants. he seems like a sneaky little shit.
Posted by: x at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (nFwvY) 86
52 Seems legit. Remember the DOJ is still stonewalling the fantasy used to spy on Trump. Is this the FBI hail Mary play?"
I thought they already threw their hail mary pass. what is the point of this? assuming the worst, the lawyer threatened stormy over some shit, are they thinking there's a memo of threatening stormy? Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (Kuhyt) 87
Seriously, Are they aware that Pence is ten times more Conservative as Trump? Or are they actually thinking Hillary will be put in? Madness...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (O2RFr) 88
Has Jimmy Drama tweeted out any Biblical verse yet?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (z/tng) 89
They just want to get at the privileged Trump lawyer documents
Posted by: MAGA at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (AihDr) 90
you are skeptical now, wait till you see the police sketch artist's rendering of the person who threatened poor Stormy. . . he's got a golden scalp weasel on his head.
Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (dbKmZ) 91
there is also a link to the hill. but i think they probably cribbed from nyt
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (eaoOY) 92
59 Is this some kind of bust?
Posted by: Stormy at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (rv0Fo) Honey, they're not real, and they're not spectacular. Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (BRvh1) 93
69 Ahh but when he fired the AG's it was no big deal,the Whitewater investigation continued under another professional prosecutor.So it was all fine.
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (LiyEm) 94
I think I'll wait a bit on the facts. Too many things have seemed huge that turned out to be small.
And I have never heard of an investigator determining what is privileged and what is not; that is the job of a court. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (0QYMt) 95
Color me shocked if the "Judge" who signed off on the warrant isn't a certified Soros-backed, Obama-donor whose daughter has an FBI Internship and is married to Mueller's nephew.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (FLifI) 96
74: He was neutered before he was confirmed, otherwise he's never have been confirmed.
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (5gaNQ) 97
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hmm, wivil car? Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:03 PM (Kuhyt) Just think, 100 years from now children will be learning about the first shots fired at Fort Poontang. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (UBzPO) 98
92 59 Is this some kind of bust?
Posted by: Stormy at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (rv0Fo) Honey, they're not real, and they're not spectacular. Posted by: Warai-otoko those aren't hills to die on Posted by: Rick in SK at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (FZYNt) Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (YndnO) 100
When you set out to kill the king, you must kill the king.
Mueller will fall way short and take his beloved FBI down with him. Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (7A6l6) 101
Cohen says it was unnecspessary as he has turned over any non privileged document they have ssked for.
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (LiyEm) 102
What is Stormy going to show in Penthouse that literally everyone hasn't seen way too much of, already?
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (NoJDX) 103
I heard this on the way home and actually said out loud oh for fuck sake how far is this gonna go . They really do want to push us don't think
Posted by: BigZesty at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (vo4QD) 104
Ace: "It's hard for me to believe that..."
I'm more inclined to believe it than not believe it. "Law enforcers" like Meuller not only indict ham sandwiches these days, they make the sandwiches, too. Rogue agency in an increasingly rogue government. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (H8S+R) 105
and, what? you can't threaten a hoe who tries to blackmail you? What nature of threat is too much? "We'll take your kids, you drug abusing whore?" "we'll break your legs?"
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (Kuhyt) 106
Willowed:
Our courts are broken. The rule of law does not exist. Rules don't either. There is a caste system in place based on race/religion/sex/politics. On my personal case, my ex is 3 years late on discovery, and had multiple extensions and purposely missed gave the finger to all of them (like 6 so the following would not happen) and the judge is allowing the ex to give all discovery directly to the judge without me and my lawyer seeing it first or at all. My ex represents herself now.. So I don't even get a chance to authenticate anything or see his supposedly evidence, the judge made a ruling that it can all go to him. So that's breaking due process, rules of evidence, ex parte hearing, the local rules of the courts and Lord knows what else. Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM ( I expect things to get worse for PDT until he starts the tribunals at GITMO. Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (tcQdP) 107
What does he think the end game here will be?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:07 PM (FLifI) Democrats and Republicans in Congress uniting to impeach. He's FBI: do you think he cares if some hypothetical trial will go against him five years down the road? This has worked well since last year, why on earth would he stop? There is a flaw to the argument, of course, but then if Mueller knew what it was he would never have taken the job. Trump, to his credit, is not going out like a bitch. Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (jRA31) 108
conveniently again Mueller gets a raid on Trump's lawyer which reveals all (client privilege) communications between Trump and the lawyer. But we're sure (Sessions keeps telling us) Rosie and Mueller are super swell patriots, so nothing to worry about folks.
Or the OIG report and various investigations are being pried out of Rosenstein's control, and this is their (DS Mob's) countermove to try to put Trump in check. But if Sessions is on top of it all, seems some big moves better happen any day now. Release the Hounds ... if there is a secret plan we are supposed to trust, it can't wait forever. The enemy is killing off good people and time is a wastin' ... seize the day. Live free or die. Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (bT8Z4) 109
Trump will be removed from office for firing Mueller. That has always been his purpose.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans _________ By Who? You really think Congress has the votes to remove Trump over firing Mueller? I don't. What would be the high crime they would charge Trump with? Exercising his authority as head of an elected branch of government? Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (lKmt3) 110
They think that indictments are going to be issued and so they moved first and hard to muddy the waters. But hey the GOP doesn't really give a shit because #neverTrump. I truly loathe the GOPe.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (o7tuA) 111
They'll never stop. Mueller will keep fishing until they find something, or out of desperation, make up some shit. All with the nodding approval of both political parties, the media, and the scummy never-Trumpers.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (ppaKI) 112
I'm surprised it took Mueller this long.
Posted by: ShainS at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (FrRJA) 113
Lawfare needs to be met with more lawfare.
Or US Marines. I'm ok with the latter. We're going to do this decline, let's do it so our side wins. Go Marshal Tito on their ass. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (xJa6I) 114
102 What is Stormy going to show in Penthouse that literally everyone hasn't seen way too much of, already?
Posted by: garrett that's 10 years past it's prime and airbrushed AF Posted by: Rick in SK at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (FZYNt) 115
54 Great, let's have the FBI raid the offices of Perkins, Coie to get information about the Fusion GPS dossier.
Now that lawyer's offices, and privileged attorney-client communications are fair game, let's go after them. Posted by: The ARC of History at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (Mrl1e) ========================= Hell, I'd settle for the FBI raiding the DNC, impounding the server that was 'hacked' and determine what REALLY happened Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (8u5U9) 116
Somebody's pants are on fire.
And have been for some time. After all of the years of the left flooding the zone with sexual perversion and mainstreaming said perversion, do they really thing the rest of us are going to get the vapors over some raunchy extramarital sex by an admitted power-wielding alpha male? Where are my pearls when I need to clutch them, anyway? Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (7UW64) 117
87: They'll get rid of Pence and having NOT confirmed his VP choice the new donk Speaker will reign, and I do mean reign
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (5gaNQ) 118
This has been a total witch hunt and has nothing to do with Russia.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (PvFoN) 119
Posted by: shibumi ________________ Look. It's really simple. Invite the bum over and whack 'em up side the head with an ashtray. Trust me,, I know about these things... *hic* Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (mPeei) 120
This is a last gasp.
Mueller has nothing. Something about the OIG report being released in the next several days - at least parts - and needed to keep it off the headlines. Plus, assuming Mueller is evil but not stupid - as someone else said - Mueller has to be able to say he turned over every rock to find something and there was nothing. But his "report" just prior to the midterms will be full of innuendo. Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (bB4HN) 121
Thought experiment:
Assume Mueller is an evil bastard but not a total retard. What does he think the end game here will be? Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:07 PM (FLifI) Mueller is an evil bastard but also a puppet. He thinks nothing and does what he is told. As for what his masters "think", they don't care about the end game necessarily, it is a contest of sheer will against someone who refuses to play by the rules of their made-up game. Posted by: Mega at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (rv0Fo) 122
Emergency move by Mueller. The IG report is going to be issued in days.
Posted by: MikeN at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (o/eHL) 123
This is the same FBI who let Whitey Bolger stay free for decades while Mueller was in Boston.
This is the same FBI who is still trying to apprehend a missing airline mechanic over the Florida JetBlu crash. This is the same FBI who's vaunted crime labs have been shown to commit fraud to secure convictions. So why the surprise? Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (YndnO) On Hawaii Five 0 there was a crooked FBI agent as part of the storyline. So thanks to the performances of Mueller and Reverend Jimmy, the FBI being a large collection of corrupt shitbags is now an accepted popular entertainment meme. Great job, Uniparty, because this includes the fucking Bushes. Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (y7DUB) 124
102 What is Stormy going to show in Penthouse that literally everyone hasn't seen way too much of, already?
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (NoJDX) Just a mugshot, with her mouth closed. Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (BRvh1) 125
Trump should immediately declassify everything that congress has requested from the FBI and order them to turn the documents over. Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (lKyWE) 126
115: If it was going to happen, it would have.
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (5gaNQ) 127
Someone yesterday made a cryptic post that said:
"Ace better make sure the flamming skull is filled up for tommorow" Something like that. Like, make sure the gas can is full. It wasn't JackStraw nic either. I think it was one I didn't recognize. Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (EVeeU) 128
My friendsh. You have nothing to fear from barack obama in the white house.
Posted by: McCain's Tumor at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (Dp6qK) 129
I am sure PDT's Papers were never in his lawyer's office. I have it on good authority they were in some crazy Jew's apartment in Trump Tower for safe keeping
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (5y11N) 130
Hell, I'd settle for the FBI raiding the DNC, impounding the server that was 'hacked' and determine what REALLY happened
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (8u5U9) It was "hacked" by the muzzies they hired to do exactly that. No mystery there. Just wondering when they will arrest said muzzies. Probably never. Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (7UW64) 131
Every morning those same FBI agents raid the fucking donut shop and they always order one plain donut to expose the cuck-of-the-day.
Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (bJ0w+) 132
Has anyone ever asked if Stormy went to Trump's lawyer looking for a payoff?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (oVJmc) 133
I hear Pence loves Marine One.
Posted by: Max Power at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (QCc6B) 134
Nothing to worry about. We have Jeff Sessions on the job!!!
Posted by: Tentotwo at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (yhf6w) 135
122: How many days? Two or two hundred?
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (5gaNQ) 136
meanwhile, liberals be all like, "finally, I knew that if we suspended the right to counsel, we'd finally get drumpf"
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (Kuhyt) 137
*orders another high speed, high capacity magazine clip*
Posted by: Taqyia2Me at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (Ftuf+) 138
the facts are irrelevant . . . rule of law is irrelevant . . . the end justifies the means for the ilk of Mueller and his enablers, and especially the rabid base whose paranoid delusions are being fed by all this
Posted by: Bored383 at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (zJ4nO) 139
When the hell are Wray and Rosenstein going to be held in contempt. I am so sick of this shit and being on defense when the Dems are sticking their corruption up our asses and laughing.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (o7tuA) 140
I don't believe that's the goal. The goal is to get
all of Trump's private, privileged communications with his lawyer to serve as a roadmap as to what to investigate next and what to ask under oath. Posted by: ace at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (8rNrN) Tax returns. Tax evasion based on these documents will be the next path. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (UBzPO) 141
Because of attorney client privilege, especially executive privilege, I assume the search warrant was limited to items that would not violate that established protection . And not just for his client Trump.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (tHX5V) Posted by: Tami at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM (Enq6K) 143
>> If it was going to happen, it would have.
If Bob Dole had a dollar for chick Bob Dole said this to before Bob Dole found Viagra. Well, Bob Dole would be a rich man. Posted by: Bob Dole at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (NoJDX) 144
I'm not an attorney, but just to illustrate how crazy what's going on here, I was involved in a company lawsuit and some "privileged" information landed in my lap. My lawyer would not even look at it or discuss because he was afraid it could lead to him being disbarred.
So at least before Trump, attorney client privilege was taken very seriously. Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (lKmt3) 145
You really think Congress has the votes to remove Trump over firing Mueller?
Yes -because there is only one party. The impeachable offense would be obstruction of justice. Keep in mind this has nothing to do with law, its all politics. They all hate trump and they just need a fig leaf. Any fig leaf. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (S9lcG) 146
Look. It's really simple. Invite the bum over and whack 'em up side the head with an ashtray. Trust me,, I know about these things...
*hic* Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (mPeei) Have him shoot himself in the back of the head? Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (7UW64) 147
139: They both need to go down hard. Snoreregard too
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (5gaNQ) 148
What is Stormy going to show in Penthouse that literally everyone hasn't seen way too much of, already?
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (NoJDX) In the age of PornHub why does Penthouse exist? Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (y7DUB) 149
Someone left the Flaming Skull out in the rain (sorry Mr. Webb), now it's drying in the oven so it will light...
Posted by: Burger Chef at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (RuIsu) 150
THIS is why I keep everything in my mattress
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (5y11N) 151
PDT's gonna clean up big time with his new GoFundMe defense fund.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (7A6l6) 152
140 I don't believe that's the goal. The goal is to get
all of Trump's private, privileged communications with his lawyer to serve as a roadmap as to what to investigate next and what to ask under oath. Posted by: ace " meh, since trump's never really been a target of the investigation, officially, what paperwork has really been generated? Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (Kuhyt) 153
This had to be done with Sessions approval.
Posted by: MAGA at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (AihDr) Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (G8hDY) 155
that's 10 years past it's prime and airbrushed AF
__________________ Seriously, who really wants to look at some middle-aged, used-up old whore's saggy fake tits and stretched-out hooha? There isn't enough penicillin in the world to make that skank attractive. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (fqUgw) 156
They all hate trump and they just need a fig leaf. Any fig leaf.
Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (S9lcG) I'm thinking this pretty much tears that ol' fig leaf right off. Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (7UW64) Posted by: Sharkman at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (Kge8X) 158
Seem odd that democrats will go to such lengths to destroy their political opponents and the GOP won't do anything.
In our own way, we are surrendering the country to our enemies just like England and Europe. Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (roQNm) 159
44 Almost seems he's daring Trump to fire him.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory As I said last thread, have Mueller arrested for fraud. He's had over a year and has nothing. The fact that he continue to spend public money is fraud. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (YxTUV) 160
That must be one lumpy mattress
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (YndnO) 161
145: Agreed. Ryan and McConnell will lead the charge, then line their pockets some more.
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (5gaNQ) 162
I heard the warrant has "Whatever" in the reason box.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (ppaKI) 163
141 Because of attorney client privilege, especially executive privilege, I assume the search warrant was limited to items that would not violate that established protection . And not just for his client Trump."
this is a cry for help from mueller. or he wants to fly fish full time. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (Kuhyt) 164
Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love....
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) 165
This had to be done with Sessions approval.
Posted by: MAGA at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (AihDr) Probably not since he recused himself. Rosenstein probably knew Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (5y11N) 166
nothing more than desperation on mueller's part. he has nothing so far and is desperate to save his reputation.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (MTjB1) 167
----------------------------------- Wednesday August 29th: 10:00am: Threatened "Adult Actress" In Parking Lot 10:05am: Lunch ----------------------------------- Posted by: Mega at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (rv0Fo) 168
And, here. We. Go.
Posted by: Thursby at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (WVn9a) 169
deep state pensions will not be honored in America 2.0 unless GEOTUS personally approves one. so go all in assholes. skin that smokewagon.
Posted by: x at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (nFwvY) Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (YxTUV) 171
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I am sure PDT's Papers were never in his lawyer's office. I have it on good authority they were in some crazy Jew's apartment in Trump Tower for safe keeping Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (5y11N) thanks NGU I needed a laugh. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (o7tuA) 172
threaten, like with a SWAT team at 6am?
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (Kuhyt) 173
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. Jim Comey, Esq. at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (bJ0w+) 174
There's no collusion. The economy is doing well. Trump's approval ratings are solid. 2018 looks dicey.
Gotta get those tax returns. Posted by: MJ at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (bvW/W) 175
Who did the Deep State catch Sessionzzz in bed with?
[ ] dead girl [ ] live boy This is an attempted coup and Beauregard has has either been sidelined or is working for the other side. Posted by: cool breeze at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (UGKMd) 176
Drudge had some vague teaser up about the person who made the "threat" a few days ago. Maybe the prostitute is claiming it was Cohen himself,
- The Hogg and whore media have been teasing that there will be a composite sketch of the threatener based on Stormy's description. Since, no doubt, Stormy was tripping balls, I expect the sketch to resemble Cthulhu. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (+y/Ru) 177
Hi! You may remember me from such films as "My Lawyer Has A DVD Nudge Nudge" and "This One Time I Was On TV". You probably don't remember that I was in porn and never heard of me before Trump.
Posted by: Stormy Daniels McClure at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (H8S+R) 178
meh, since trump's never really been a target of the investigation, officially, what paperwork has really been generated?
=========== Its a look at his business dealings. Did he ever contact anyone about anything that had any connection whatsoever to Russia. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (kkt7n) 179
How the fuck do we not just start putting these prosecutors up against a wall and shooting them?
This is a sitting US President. Not some criminal. Honestly do they want war? They must Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (sfAgW) 180
Trump's probably about to go nuclear.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (7uYFy) 181
148....the columns are what keep penthouse afloat...swearsies
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (CDETr) 182
This has what exactly to do with Russian collusion?
How is it Trumps layer can't hide behind client privilege like Hildebeast's lawyer did? Posted by: TSgt Ciz at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (af5xa) 183
What, exactly, does this have to do with Russian Interference in the 2016 election?
"I went home with the porn star, the way I always do. How was I to know, she was with the Russians, too!" Apologies to Warren Zevon. Posted by: West at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (7Fa8Y) 184
Yes -because there is only one party.
The impeachable offense would be obstruction of justice. Keep in mind this has nothing to do with law, its all politics. They all hate trump and they just need a fig leaf. Any fig leaf. Posted by: because sarcasm ________ They don't have the votes, I'd gamble my 401k on that. Deep down they would love it, but it would be a career ender for every Republican that went along and they know it. Ask people like Jeff Flake how things worked out and then compare that to a Republican that would vote to impeach Trump over Mueller. Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (lKmt3) 185
>> In the age of PornHub why does Penthouse exist?
Penthouse is actually doing pretty good, sales and all. It's Forum, IIRC. There's still enough who like things old school. Posted by: publius, the Cranny-Curious Poperin Pear at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (8O3HH) 186
SMFH
No one associated with the Clinton Crime circle has ever been raided Gee, ya think they could have raided Hillary's lawyers office since she had given him a flash drive will all of her State emails - even though he did not have the security clearance to possess them? Nah, bro, they only care about deals with freakin pornstars from 12 years ago. Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (W+vEI) 187
Hey Mueller, I gonna call my lawyer. He the best lawyer in New York. He so good that by tomorrow morning, the only place you gonna be able to get a job is in Alaska. So dress warm.
Posted by: Donnie Two Scars at April 09, 2018 05:18 PM (rv0Fo) 188
I need about a dozen cupcakes. Or bananas or apples, or something sweet. I got nothing. Trying to lose those winter pounds...even though it was snowing today, and itks really cold. Fuckity, fvck, fvck.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:19 PM (EVeeU) 189
Which team is Sessions on? This is a serious question.
Posted by: MJ at April 09, 2018 05:19 PM (bvW/W) 190
I'm confused what a lying coked up whore who had consensual sex with Trump has anything to do with Mueller's investigation?
I pray the rumors are true that the Marine's have been preparing GITMO for tribunals. Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:19 PM (tcQdP) 191
Drudge had some vague teaser up about the person who made the "threat" a few days ago. Maybe the prostitute is claiming it was Cohen himself,
And here's where Cohen gets his 130 G's back, in spades. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:19 PM (oVJmc) 192
188
I need about a dozen cupcakes. Or bananas or apples, or something sweet. I got nothing. Trying to lose those winter pounds...even though it was snowing today, and itks really cold. Fuckity, fvck, fvck. Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:19 PM (EVeeU) So you didn't get my chocolates? Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:19 PM (o7tuA) 193
Its a look at his business dealings. Did he ever contact anyone about anything that had any connection whatsoever to Russia."
the what now? trump's personal lawyer did what with russia. Pretty sure that trump's business dealings, such as they were, didn't take a dump without a business lawyer signing off on it. who the fuck is this guy? Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (Kuhyt) 194
In the stupid times we're living in, having a porn whore bring down PDT isn't far fetched anymore.
I'll bet Murderin' Joe and Mika are having celebratory sex right now. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (ptqGC) 195
Where are my pearls when I need to clutch them, anyway?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (7UW64) ............ You can just commence with the wringing of hands until you find them. Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (HgMAr) 196
Penthouse is actually doing pretty good, sales and all. It's Forum, IIRC. There's still enough who like things old school.
Posted by: publius, the Cranny-Curious Poperin Pear at April for the older guys that only have flip phones and dial up. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (MTjB1) 197
If Trump were Bill Clinton, he'd lob some missiles on Syria tonight....
Posted by: JoeF. at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (7uYFy) 198
>>Penthouse is actually doing pretty good, sales and all. It's Forum, IIRC. There's still enough who like things old school.
I don't know about you, Jackie... But I still jerk off manually. Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (NoJDX) 199
The Russians 11 years ago could see Donald Trump was going to get into politics in 2016 so they got a porn star to get in and get the goods on him knowing he would pay her off then 11 years later the Russians would have him on a string.
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (aC6Sd) 200
The DOJ is controlled by Dems, as are courts and much of the FBI. Clearly, Rosentein is a Dem pawn and Mueller will keep digging until he manufactures something.
This is probably ultimate desperation, backed by an out of control justice complex, still in the hands of Dems. Nothing else makes sense. Posted by: standfast24 at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (PNFIr) 201
Watergate Fantasy Syndrome. They all have it.
Posted by: Eromero at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (zLDYs) 202
Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love....
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) 203
who the fuck is this guy?
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (Kuhyt) Cohen has a reputation as a no-holds barred, leave no prisoners kind of lawyer. Cut-throat. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (UBzPO) 204
Huh? What? What time is it? Hey, where are the fluffers?
Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (Tyii7) Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (NoJDX) 206
Isn't Cohen suing Steele (and others) over the BS in the Dossier about him?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:22 PM (oVJmc) 207
Cohen has a reputation as a no-holds barred, leave no prisoners kind of lawyer. Cut-throat.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (UBzPO) The kind of guy who would threaten a porn star and her kid?? Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 05:22 PM (ptqGC) Posted by: Thursby at April 09, 2018 05:22 PM (WVn9a) 209
Cohen has a reputation as a no-holds barred, leave no prisoners kind of lawyer. Cut-throat.
So like Weismann? Posted by: dagny at April 09, 2018 05:22 PM (CAKgV) 210
When Donald was born he punched the girl baby in the crib next to him in the nethers. its in the hospital records. The attorney may have them.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:22 PM (o7tuA) 211
Show me the person and I'll find a crime, unless they can buy the DNC.
Posted by: FBI at April 09, 2018 05:23 PM (Lb4wQ) 212
So you didn't get my chocolates?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:19 PM (o7tuA) I don't like chocolate much. But thank you for trying with the chocolate milk. Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:23 PM (EVeeU) 213
Following the FISA precedent, maybe Team Mueller sees a double opportunity. Find some crime of anything (e.g. questionable loan application for a project 10 years ago) but meanwhile go through as much personal dirty laundry as possible through Trump's personal attorney, and drip-drip leaks about new, salacious affairs, etc. on a weekly basis to continue to info op.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:23 PM (FLifI) 214
This situation is wholly intolerable and needs to be ended now.
We know the endgame. They are hunting the President and he needs to turn this back on them. Posted by: Kreplach at April 09, 2018 05:23 PM (GV0Mg) 215
Cohen has a reputation as a no-holds barred, leave no prisoners kind of lawyer. Cut-throat.
so what? Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:23 PM (Kuhyt) 216
More evidence that the ballot box no longer matters in this country.
Since the people voted for someone that Washington DC does not like, then they will just "take care of him" now? So what we gonna do about it? Posted by: Pam at April 09, 2018 05:23 PM (5FhpD) 217
I don't think it is the beginning of the end, this will go on for many more years. I remember saying when Mueller was first appointed that was what it was to be until Trump was no longer Prez and got a lot of pushback. The Leftists play for keeps, Trump should fire Mueller and Rosenstein now and Sessions can name less partisan replacements. The longer it goes on the worst it is going to get. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (r+sAi) 218
I can't declare this is all a set-up, though. It's hard for me to believe that Mueller would make a criminal referral based only on an admitted liar and fame-chaser's vague word, and I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that, and I can't believe a judge would issue a warrant based only on that."
lemme guess, sealed warrant? who the fuck these people think they are? Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (Kuhyt) 219
Where are my pearls when I need to clutch them, anyway?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 05:11 PM (7UW64) ............ You can just commence with the wringing of hands until you find them. Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (HgMAr) Fainting couch for the win! Posted by: Hrothgar at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (n9EOP) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (+y/Ru) 221
Maybe this is to force Trump to decline ANY interview with Mueller. There's no telling what he might contradict that are in his attorney's files.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (UBzPO) 222
Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love.... Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) Who is no Candy Samples Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (lKyWE) Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (z3FQb) 224
In the age of PornHub why does Penthouse exist?
Penthouse is actually doing pretty good, sales and all. It's Forum, IIRC. There's still enough who like things old school. Posted by: publius Static pictures versus moving video? FTS. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (YxTUV) 225
I bet Obama and Holder know more about what's going on than almost anyone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (ks6bw) 226
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This had to be done with Sessions approval. ================= Not an expert, but I don't read the rules that way. See @72 Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your huckleberry! at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (oHt/4) 227
I don't like chocolate much. But thank you for trying with the chocolate milk.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:23 PM (EVeeU) Lol. Hang in there GG. You're groovy even when you're snarly. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (o7tuA) 228
This is how you get Citizens Committees for Vigilance.
And helicopter rides. Fuck that torches n' pitchforks shit. Ain't got time for that hoo-rah. Do Not Pass Go. Do Not Collect $200. Go Directly to Helipad. If they'd put it on Pay Per View, I'd sign up to watch the show. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (QzJWU) 229
"I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that.."
I can -- easily. I knew his statement that Trump wasn't a target was BS. There are no consequences for Mueller for anything he says or does. He must understand this by now. He is completely beyond the law or oversight. He is a total Lavrenti Beria. In fact, I'll bet Beria was more careful about how he maneuvered himself through the political mazes of the Soviet Union. Mueller, what does he care? No one has the will to stop him and he knows it. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (H8QX8) 230
Jewells better start bedazzling those codpieces.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (EVeeU) 231
It's hard for me to believe that Mueller would make a criminal referral based only on an admitted liar and fame-chaser's vague word, and I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that, and I can't believe a judge would issue a warrant based only on that.
All the players believe they're saving the country from a lunatic, while conveniently saving their own asses. Its not hard to believe at all. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (VQcx0) 232
well, trump strikes me as the type of guy who would take this lying down. so, all in all, a very good idea for the left. After all, they control several blogging services and social media websites. the branches of government, not so much.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (Kuhyt) 233
Joy Reid's dream of Trump barricading himself inside the WH as he refuses a subpoena from Mueller:
https://tinyurl.com/ybx6u7ol She really thinks this may happen. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (ptqGC) 234
Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love....
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) Who is no Candy Samples Posted by: Flawless Male Logic Who is no Junior Samples. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (YxTUV) 235
It's hard for me to believe that Mueller would make a criminal referral based only on an admitted liar and fame-chaser's vague word, and I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that, and I can't believe a judge would issue a warrant based only on that."
lemme guess, sealed warrant? who the fuck these people think they are? Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (Kuhyt) Christopher Steele...dossier....FISA COURT... Posted by: Tami at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (Enq6K) 236
Have him shoot himself in the back of the head? Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 05:14 PM (7UW64) Twice and then lock himself in a car trunk. Posted by: Berry Buginski at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (k10w7) 237
I thought this investigation was supposed to be limited to the Russians interfering during the election?
Posted by: andycanuck at April 09, 2018 05:26 PM (VBKy9) 238
Wednesday August 29th:
10:00am: Threatened "Adult Actress" In Parking Lot 10:05am: Lunch __________________ LOL. But no way in hell would he only charge 5 minutes for that. Most lawyers who bill by the hour have a minimum charge of 15 minutes for any task. So IRL it would look more like this: 8/29: Review case file; 1.5 hrs. Travel to/from parking lot for consultation with skanky porn actress Daniels; 1.0 hr. Memo to file re consultation with skanky porn actress Daniels; 2.0 hrs Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 09, 2018 05:26 PM (fqUgw) 239
Always wondered what one of these would look like in the US. Now I know. Posted by: Sharkman at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (Kge8X) If Trump ends up impeached, is the left ready forresident PenceThe fallout / anger / retribution they will suffer at the hands of Trump voters? Do they even care? This move makes me nervous. This will do nothing to alleviate the (presently) cold civil war we are in. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2018 05:26 PM (jxbfJ) 240
My loins are always girded. Only way to be sure.
Posted by: I'll take mine with extra gluten, please at April 09, 2018 05:26 PM (ehq/Q) 241
Joy Reid's dream of Trump barricading himself inside the WH as he refuses a subpoena from Mueller:
https://tinyurl.com/ybx6u7ol She really thinks this may happen. Posted by: Jane D'oh Trump in reality: "Put it on the pile". Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:26 PM (YxTUV) 242
>> but meanwhile go through as much personal dirty laundry as possible through Trump's personal attorney, and drip-drip leaks about new, salacious affairs, etc. on a weekly basis to continue to info op.
This has always been an oppo research exercise on the side. Gotta feed FudionGPS in the event they don't cobble together something the prosecute him on. Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2018 05:26 PM (W+vEI) 243
Personally I think this is not directed directly at PDT.
I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:27 PM (5y11N) 244
223 So what we gonna do about it?
====== You. Cannot. Be. Serious. People won't even quit Facebook. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (z3FQb) Sadly this. And to make matters worse, in the Current Year even after knowing everything evil about Facebook, you are considered weird, social outcast, and a person of interest if yiou refuse to get a Facebook profile, which is mandatory for many corporate jobs and employment in general. Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:27 PM (tcQdP) 245
What's all this then?
Posted by: Chief Inspector Dick, Dick of the Yard at April 09, 2018 05:27 PM (VBKy9) 246
If Meta Muesli is doing this it means he has Jack Shit on Russia.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 05:27 PM (kTQeF) 247
Penthouse is actually doing pretty good, sales and all. It's Forum, IIRC. There's still enough who like things old school. Posted by: publius Static pictures versus moving video? FTS. Whatcha gonna fap to when the EMP hits, Sonny??? Posted by: Old Fashioned Perv at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (oVJmc) Posted by: Chief Inspector Dick, Dick of the Yard at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (VBKy9) 249
Lol. Hang in there GG. You're groovy even when you're snarly.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:24 PM (o7tuA) Ha! First smile to hit me all day. Better than cupcakes, and no calories. I need to order a T-shirt that says that. "I'm groovy even when I'm snarly." Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (EVeeU) 250
Christopher Steele...dossier....FISA COURT...
Posted by: Tami at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (Enq6K) Yep. let the media keep repeating it until its considered fact and never never never back off or apologize. Thats the way to do it. Like fascism. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (o7tuA) 251
Always wondered what one of these would look like in the US.
--- The elimination of political opponents looked just like this in the days of the USSR. Only the names were changed. Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (roQNm) 252
Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love....
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) Who is no Candy Samples Posted by: Flawless Male Logic Who is no Junior Samples. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (YxTUV) Who is no Whitman's Sampler. Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (gbWkA) 253
And I think will cause to PDT to refuse or tighten his demands on any "Interview"
How can he possible be interviewed when his legal papers have been siezed? Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (5y11N) 254
Sorry. Another three murders in Midsomer County.
Posted by: Chief Inspector Dick, Dick of the Yard at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (VBKy9) 255
well, stormy may as well sign her penthouse check over to Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (MTjB1) 256
Static pictures versus moving video? FTS.
Whatcha gonna fap to when the EMP hits, Sonny??? Posted by: Old Fashioned Perv The minds' eye movies from videos already watched. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (YxTUV) 257
I can't declare this is all a set-up, though. It's hard for me to believe that Mueller would make a criminal referral based only on an admitted liar and fame-chaser's vague word, and I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that, and I can't believe a judge would issue a warrant based only on that.
----- Believe. They really are that blatant, thuggish, uncaring, and stupid. They have been all along. The porno actress was potentially phase one of a setup. I would not put anything past them, including suborning perjury under threat, and fabricating evidence. Criminals. Banana republic goverment criminals. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (d8tb7) 258
Yep. let the media keep repeating it until its considered fact and never never never back off or apologize. Thats the way to do it. Like fascism. " well, come on...all this stuff can only come from the right. fascism, hate speech, the pending handmaidens tale. The left can never do this. The GOP says so Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (Kuhyt) 259
All the players believe they're saving the country from a lunatic, while conveniently saving their own asses.
Its not hard to believe at all. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (VQcx0) -------------------------------------- Their opinions on Trump (lunatic or whatever) are for public consumption, oh look what we are here to save you from. They care nothing for anything except that "their" candidate, the drunken shrew, lost a fixed election and it's their job to take him down. The destruction of the United States of America as it was founded needed only one more good shove and it was over. What we have seen since November 9 2016 is their Plan B for our destruction. Posted by: Boots at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (EBwPV) 260
In the age of PornHub why does Penthouse exist?
- It's an institution. Been around forever. The first Forum began, "Forsooth, prior to the evening of my copulation, methinks never would it befall me . . . . Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (+y/Ru) 261
>>Personally I think this is not directed directly at PDT.
I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG. I think you're right. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (/tuJf) 262
If Meta Muesli is doing this it means he has Jack Shit on Russia.
---------- Of COURSE he has jack shit on Russia. The whole damn thing has nothing whatsoever to do with Russia at all. It never did. It was a patent harassment operation designed to tick trump off and get him to fire people. It is an obstruction of justice trap. Period. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (z3FQb) 263
Ha! First smile to hit me all day. Better than
cupcakes, and no calories. I need to order a T-shirt that says that. "I'm groovy even when I'm snarly." Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (EVeeU) Lol! you go girl. Do it. Zazzle. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:30 PM (o7tuA) 264
Okay, here's why I hate Sleepy Jeff and think that he's the Snivelling Little Coward Ne Plus Ultra of DC.
He recused himself from the Russia Investigation for reasons of Muh Honorz and Nap Tyme. B-u-u-u-u-ut, this investigation by Mueller no longer has anything to do with the Russia Investigation You'd think Comatose Jeff could now step into his proper role and end these witch-hunts which have zero to do with Russia. Force Mueller and the FBI to stay on the Russia track and if they don't....Shut. The. Whole. Thing. Down. Easy Peasy. And completely understandable by the Average Joe. But...Nope. Good Ole Braindead Jeff got some snoozin' to do. Hey, Jeffy-Poo, you're outright cowardice is tearing the country in two. Good work, asshole. Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2018 05:30 PM (9q7Dl) 265
Is this a situation that can be resolved? Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (9oJYp) Not resolvable and not trustworthy. Dump ASAP. JMO Posted by: Mega at April 09, 2018 05:30 PM (rv0Fo) 266
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Static pictures versus moving video? FTS. Whatcha gonna fap to when the EMP hits, Sonny??? Posted by: Old Fashioned Perv The minds' eye movies from videos already watched. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (YxTUV) The "spank bank" FTW Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2018 05:30 PM (jxbfJ) 267
Maybe they don't understand how dangerous this shit is.
This is how things get bad, real bad, real fast. Insurrection Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 09, 2018 05:30 PM (M+Lyo) 268
Who is no India Summers.
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (NoJDX) Who is no Saskatoon Winters Posted by: Berry Buginski at April 09, 2018 05:30 PM (k10w7) 269
Personally I think this is not directed directly at PDT.
I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG. Posted by: Nevergiveup ___________ It's definitely though a bank shot at Trump to reintroduce Stormy Daniels into the national conversation. I will never understand how or why Trump and his legal team responded to Stormy Daniels the way they did. They should have ignored her. Instead they had his lawyer say he paid the woman out of the goodness of his heart, then sued for like $30 million for not complying with her non disclosure agreement, etc. I hate that we may have a Constitutional crisis over a burned out porn star trying to book some gigs, but here we are. Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:30 PM (lKmt3) 270
Rook takes Knight.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (tHX5V) 271
Jewells better start bedazzling those codpieces.
lol.. send them my way and I shall bedazzle them. Diamonds or pearls? Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (dUJdY) 272
It's an institution. Been around forever. The first Forum began, "Forsooth, prior to the evening of my copulation, methinks never would it befall me . . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Adam's letter to the editor about Eve. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (YxTUV) 273
Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love....
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) Who is no Candy Samples Who is no kayden kross Posted by: BigZesty at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (vo4QD) 274
Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love....
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) Who is no Candy Samples Posted by: Flawless Male Logic Who is no Junior Samples. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (YxTUV) Who is no Whitman's Sampler. Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (gbWkA) Who is no Christine Todd Whitman.... Posted by: JoeF. at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (7uYFy) 275
Personally I think this is not directed directly at PDT.
I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG. I think you're right. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (/tuJf) However for the reason I mentioned above, this will complicate the interview issue and everything else going forward. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (5y11N) 276
I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG.
======== When the Feebs want you they come at you through your friends and family. Its directed at Cohen, but its still all about Trump. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (JF8cM) 277
Mueller is fucking out of control
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (M+Lyo) 278
So the deep state and FBI are making very clear that if you (non beltway approved person) dare run for important office, or work for the campaign of an outsider like Trump they will violate the 4th amendment and raid your personal space on some BS warrant.
Well how far is it to them going after *me* for daring to make a modest campaign contribution to Trump? Doesn't seem very far to me and I'm ready to make a sign and stand in a picket line on a general strike until congress goes after these nazi wannabes. However I'm still not ready to be a one woman general striker. And I suspect nothing will happen unless Trump suggests something similar; just as in the NFL and belated tuning out over them encouraging the players to be disrespectful to the flag and anthem. I don't really like that, its way too much like Barkys cult of personality. We need the Hannity's , Rush, OANN opinion shows etc to push the idea that honest folks should take some peaceful but load actions against this crap. Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (eASYU) 279
Nothing stimulates the mind's eye like the written word. The brain is the premier sexual organ. These young idiots today don't realize that. Hell, their stupid brains have been conditioned by these stupid cell phones. They're brain damaged. Posted by: publius, the Cranny-Curious Poperin Pear at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (8O3HH) 280
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:27 PM (5y11N)
Not true. The SP could not have performed this raid. It is outside his mandate. But the US Attorney can share the findings Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (sfAgW) 281
If they kind find something to charge cohen with , they will offer him a deal to testify against trump. (read that as blackmail into lying against trump)
Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (4VsG1) 282
1. Search for any/all illegality (general warrant)
2. Continue info op with confidential info 3. Hamstring Trumps present, aggressive legal team by having them deemed "conflicted" as potential "co conspirator" 4. Intimidate potential new counsel by threat of new, Gestapo raids. Have I left anything out? Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (FLifI) 283
Jewells better start bedazzling those codpieces.
lol.. send them my way and I shall bedazzle them. Diamonds or pearls? Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (dUJdY) Can you bedazzle flamethrowers? I'd like to sparkle mine up. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (ptqGC) 284
"No one associated with the Clinton Crime circle has ever been raided"
Posted by: Lizzy right, all that time, all those crimes, FBI/CIA have to be in on it. And the FISC judges ... most of Congress. Hillary can smash hard drives, just laugh it off. insanely criminal, must be FBI is also criminal at top levels under Obama, but what about even now? A last desperate act as see they see it all coming down? We hope so. Tick Tock works both ways though. Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (bT8Z4) 285
"Personally I think this is not directed directly at PDT. I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG."
No, it's about Trump. It's all about Trump and always about Trump. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (H8QX8) 286
32 isn't Mueller involved in Uranium one?
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (eaoOY) Mueller was head of the FBI when the Uranium One scandal paid off the Clintons with foreign government money, and he did his best to cover it all up. He really needs to be dangling from a traitor's hangmans noose. Nobody more deserving. Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2018 05:33 PM (UsCnO) 287
Lizzy: "Nah, bro, they only care about deals with freakin pornstars from 12 years ago."
Part of these diversionary tactics to invent crimes against Trump is to hide and bury those committed (and easily proven BTW) by Clinton/Obama. It's not only deliberate misappropriation of resources and dereliction of duty, it's a delaying tactic to time out statutes of limitations. Justice delayed is not justice denied; it's a get out of jail free card for corruptocrats. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 09, 2018 05:33 PM (H8S+R) 288
Loud actions. *LOUD* but peaceful. damn fat fingers.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 09, 2018 05:33 PM (eASYU) 289
Make no mistake, Cohen may be the target but he is just another piece in the chess game whose goal is to get the King.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 09, 2018 05:33 PM (tHX5V) 290
the other way I read this is the Feebs realize its life or death. They probably know already that trump has decided to blow up the FBI.
Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:33 PM (SLMZN) 291
Can you bedazzle flamethrowers? I'd like to sparkle mine up.
Posted by: Jane D'oh It's so romantic sitting by the firelight of a purged & burning village. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:33 PM (YxTUV) 292
The SP could not have performed this raid. It is outside his mandate. But the US Attorney can share the findings
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (sfAgW) Nothing is outside of his mandate if he says so and Rosenstein agrees. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (5y11N) 293
This is all so depressing.
Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (a0IVu) 294
Level: Venuzuela
Posted by: muckrack at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (RZ4iC) Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (dUJdY) 296
India Summer is a national treasure. But I don't know who she is, a friend sung her praises to me. Posted by: publius, the Cranny-Curious Poperin Pear at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (8O3HH) 297
Who is no Junior Samples.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (YxTUV) Who is no Whitman's Sampler. Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (gbWkA) Who is no Christine Todd Whitman.... Posted by: JoeF. Let me know when we get to Kevin Bacon Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (7v00c) 298
So the deep state and FBI are making very clear that if you (non beltway approved person) dare run for important office, or work for the campaign of an outsider like Trump they will violate the 4th amendment and raid your personal space on some BS warrant.
Well how far is it to them going after *me* for daring to make a modest campaign contribution to Trump? Facebook, Twitter, and Google would have already dealt with you. And would probably have all the evidence of your guilt already in their secret files. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (oVJmc) 299
I hate that we may have a Constitutional crisis over a burned out porn star trying to book some gigs, but here we are.
Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:30 PM (lKmt3) A couple of weeks ago I was in downtown St. Louis and saw one of those enormous billboard vehicles go by with an advertisement for Stormy Daniels show (or something...didn't catch all what it said)... I was like, "Oh you are effing kidding me!?" Posted by: Tami at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (Enq6K) 300
Think of it -- using a porno actress and accusations of infidelity get many people to relax their critical thinking skills. These things from years ago are not impeachable offenses, but the salacious nature results, they hope, in more of a perception that something criminal must have happened.
The governor of MO had an affair. Bad behavior, but not criminal. The retard attempting to prosecute him figures that's enough though. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (d8tb7) 301
291
Can you bedazzle flamethrowers? I'd like to sparkle mine up. Posted by: Jane D'oh It's so romantic sitting by the firelight of a purged burning village. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:33 PM (YxTUV) Kicking at stones and spreading salt around you? Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2018 05:34 PM (jxbfJ) 302
"Personally I think this is not directed directly at PDT. I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG."
No, it's about Trump. It's all about Trump and always about Trump. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 09, 2018 05:32 PM (H8QX Well we have to take as a given that everything is allways about PDT, we know that. But this is specifically aimed at Cohen. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:35 PM (5y11N) 303
natural fake, oh contraire, they were interested in a dela re Trump/ Cohen /land in Russia to build a hotel thing
so there we are Russia! Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:35 PM (eaoOY) 304
So, aimed at Cohen, as a Trump intimate and long-time associate, in other words going after one of "Trump's tribe"?
"First we f**k Flynn, then we f**k Trump" - who allegedly said that? If privileged items were part of the seizure, I think this is A Big Deal, in its own terms, procedurally speaking. But the privileged stuff would be more about Trump than Cohen. Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at April 09, 2018 05:35 PM (Dhcvl) 305
>>When the Feebs want you they come at you through your friends and family. Its directed at Cohen, but its still all about Trump.
Of all people, Cohen is not rolling over on Trump. He's been his personal lawyer for years, his only client, and that is going nowhere. I remember hearing when Manafort was indicted that he would roll on Trump. Now it looks as if Manafort is getting ready to sue Mueller. Mueller has never had anything because there never was anything. Strzok even admitted that in his texts and he knows because he was part of the team that made the entire Russian collusion crap up. The only way they are getting Trump is on some process crime like perjury over some tangential issue like paying off a hooker. Even if that happened, it wouldn't get Trump taken down. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:36 PM (/tuJf) 306
No raid on the Clinton Foundation. No raid on the illegal server Clinton office. But raiding lawyer's offices. They are growing so much hate and distrust. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 09, 2018 05:36 PM (fceHP) 307
I see Steve Wozniak has dropped Facebook over 'data collection.'
Claims Apple respects your privacy. Yeah. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:36 PM (oVJmc) Posted by: Kuhyt at April 09, 2018 05:36 PM (Kuhyt) 309
77 >>sessions needs to strap this dog down.
I only trust Gorilla Tape. To prove the strength of Flex-Tape, I sawed the country apart then taped it back together with Flex-Tape! Posted by: The Flex-Tape Guy at April 09, 2018 05:36 PM (v3pYe) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 09, 2018 05:37 PM (tpDAe) 311
Incest porn is the hottest porn.
Posted by: Anthony Weiner - Porn Expert at April 09, 2018 05:37 PM (V1fSK) Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2018 05:37 PM (r+sAi) 313
so can anyone state apprx how many Good guys are in the fbi or doj at this point?
do we have a tally. and we should look up the sostates? and DAs that soros has been buying. Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:37 PM (eaoOY) 314
Who is no Junior Samples.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (YxTUV) Who is no Whitman's Sampler. Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (gbWkA) Who is no Christine Todd Whitman.... Posted by: JoeF. Who is no Slim Whitman... Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2018 05:38 PM (9q7Dl) 315
As was posted here a while back by I forget who...
Where have you gone, Augusto Pinochet? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you woo woo woo Posted by: marcus gravey at April 09, 2018 05:38 PM (T8/UU) 316
308 you can't threaten a porn star who is threatening you???
This goes beyond the Logan act! As long as Jennifer Agutter is still involved, it's all good. Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2018 05:38 PM (sGtp+) Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 09, 2018 05:38 PM (fA1SL) 318
Can you say, "jumped the MF'ing shark"?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 09, 2018 05:38 PM (1ISKN) 319
Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love....
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) Who is no Candy Samples Posted by: Flawless Male lol, nothing dates you like the pronettes you like. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:38 PM (MTjB1) 320
Its a bunch of nothing designed to get Trumps privileged info but Id hazard a guess anything like that which could harm him is long gone. This isnt Trumps first rodeo. Team Soft Hands is desperate for something to cling to because Mueller has been such a spectacular failure so far.
The only upside for TSH might be increased fundraising after it turns out to be another big zero. Posted by: WonkishRogue at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (O9JR8) Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (dUJdY) 322
Level: Venuzuela
========= Not yet. When the national average weight drops by 30 lbs and you are rooting through dumpsters for your next meal then its getting close, but still got a ways to go. That place is Thunderdome now. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (kkt7n) 323
Piper Perri is ugly.
For petite girls Hannah Hays, Kenzie Reeves and Angel Smalls are the best. But the #1 pornstar is Pinky. No question. Posted by: Anthony Weiner - Porn Expert at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (V1fSK) Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (fuK7c) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (oVJmc) 326
275 Personally I think this is not directed directly at PDT.
I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG. I think you're right. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (/tuJf) However for the reason I mentioned above, this will complicate the interview issue and everything else going forward. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (5y11N) --------- I remember reading some time ago that Mueller way around Trump pardoning everyone was to make the crimes local and not Federal crimes. Apparently on the belief that POTUS can only pardon Federal crimes. Does this make any sense or is this a Internet myth? Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (G0vdT) 327
At this point, Mueller comes off as some sick little perverted fuck peeping thru a hole in the drywall into the girls' locker room.
Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (bJ0w+) 328
No raid on the Clinton Foundation.
No raid on the illegal server Clinton office. But raiding lawyer's offices. They are growing so much hate and distrust. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 09, 2018 05:36 PM (fceHP) Agreed. This is total bullshit. Now it's time to take off the gloves, and investigate - and prosecute - the Clintons. And Obama, for, inter alia, turning off credit card address verification for campaign contributions. Why this relatively obscure outrage? Because it's definitive, not interpretation needed. His campaign either did, or did not, do this, so it cannot be portrayed as a witch hunt. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (zwqot) 329
Long-shot prediction: This is investigating a crime AGAINST Trump by Cohen. Maybe he was passing confidential information about Trump's personal life, business dealings to a third party. Or something.. I dunno. *shurgs* Posted by: Serious Cat at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (+Ty8m) 330
so can anyone state apprx how many Good guys are in the fbi or doj at this point?
do we have a tally. and we should look up the sostates? and DAs that soros has been buying. Posted by: willow at April no, but we have bee repeatedly an reliably informed that it is not the responsibility of rank and file fbi and other leo employees to uphold the oaths they swore to and risk their pensions and jobs because they have mortgages and families. so there. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (MTjB1) 331
This is nothing but a last ditch desperate attempt to find anything they can before the IG report comes out, nothing more.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (+Dllb) 332
I pine for the days when I naively believed we were a nation of laws and our FBI and Justice Department were made of mostly decent men and women.
Reading Ace's post, I remembered that Ms. Porny-Porn-Porn has a daughter. Should be around 8 years old. How proud she will be of her mommy's exploits. Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (oiNtH) 333
The stink of desperation can be smelled in space at this point.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (fceHP) Posted by: Soothie at April 09, 2018 05:41 PM (zh9tu) 335
298: Oh FB et al are collecting info on me, but they have not yet made me an un-person. I'm talking about the deep state sending local LEOs out on some BS excuse and making the *raid* to collect evidence a punishment.
In my case they'd probably come up with some state environmental law that I'm breaking by keeping horses, having older vehicles that do the old vehicle tiny fluid leaks or sumpin like that. They haven't got down to my level yet but much like the WI "John Doe" raids it is chilling to think about. Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 09, 2018 05:41 PM (eASYU) 336
To prove the strength of Flex-Tape, I sawed the country apart then taped it back together with Flex-Tape!
Posted by: The Flex-Tape Guy at April 09, 2018 05:36 PM (v3pYe) lol Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:41 PM (EVeeU) 337
This is nothing but a last ditch desperate attempt to find anything they can before the IG report comes out, nothing more.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April definintely reeks of desperation. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:41 PM (MTjB1) 338
I remember reading some time ago that Mueller way around Trump pardoning everyone was to make the crimes local and not Federal crimes. Apparently on the belief that POTUS can only pardon Federal crimes. Does this make any sense or is this a Internet myth?
Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (G0vdT) Nope that is 100% correct IF the charges, if they are ever brought, are NY State Charges and not Federal Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (5y11N) 339
Reading Ace's post, I remembered that Ms. Porny-Porn-Porn has a daughter. Should be around 8 years old. How proud she will be of her mommy's exploits.
She will grow up to be a fucked up mess. She'll be snorting coke in a few years. Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (dUJdY) 340
This is nothing but a last ditch desperate attempt to find anything they can before the IG report comes out, nothing more.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (+Dllb) First thing I thought of was their fear of the IG report. They must know what's coming. So this is either a distraction or they really hope in this last ditch effort to find ANYTHING to nail to Trump. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (fceHP) 341
Sessions is a low dog for allowing FBI to raid Trump's lawyer, the same FBI that has been compromised and implicated in so many recent tragedies.
With friends like him who needs enemies. Fire Sessions yesterday, he has recused himself from his job anyway. Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (/3+Sg) 342
This is why Trump should have fired Mueller. They are looking for a process indictment. They don't care if it has no chance of a conviction. There are a enough Never Trumpers running around congress who will say this is why Trump must step down. Etc...
It is why Trump should never had listened to the "advice" of certain Republicans in congress. Posted by: William Eaton at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (MuTTO) 343
yankee, that wasn't very helpful. thanks for cheering me up!
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (eaoOY) 344
From sidebar:
The Moody Blues are a little cheeseball but not as cheesy as ELO. I only know the one song, 'Nights in White Satin'....which I always thought was 'Knights' in white satin. Which confused me. But then, I was a sheltered naive boy. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (xJa6I) 345
natural fake, oh contraire, they were interested in a dela re Trump/ Cohen /land in Russia to build a hotel thing
so there we are Russia! Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:35 PM (eaoOY) Seriously? Welp...certainly land for a hotel is a direct threat to the Republic. And not she little nothing like receiving multi-million dollar payoffs to give Russia 20% of US uranium. Good work, assholes. Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (9q7Dl) 346
Hmmm.... so much for Attorney Client Privilege... at least if you are Republican...
Seems the Clinton Attorney Client privilege worked to actually destroy evidence... yet no raids on HER Lawyer. Hello? Jeff Sessions???? Where the hell is the Attorney General in this? as it has NOTHING to do with the Election he recuses himself from? Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (NgKpN) 347
261
>>Personally I think this is not directed directly at PDT. I think this is directed at Cohen, which is why this was farmed out to the NY AG. I think you're right. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM (/tuJf) ===================== Maybe as an interim step, but I think this is all aimed squarely at Trump. Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your huckleberry! at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (oHt/4) 348
Nothing says spring quite like stepping outside and being pelted with ice pellets (the artist formerly referred to as Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (LOgQ4) 349
The only way they are getting Trump is on some process crime like perjury over some tangential issue like paying off a hooker. Even if that happened, it wouldn't get Trump taken down.
======== They are just going to leak out the names and circumstances of everyone of the 132 women whose mish he grabbed. They are trying to enrage him. If he won't bite and he shouldn't, then they will use it politically to damage him with female voters. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (QVaAa) 350
Reading Ace's post, I remembered that Ms.
Porny-Porn-Porn has a daughter. Should be around 8 years old. How proud she will be of her mommy's exploits. Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (oiNtH) I wonder how a kid who was nursed on silicone turns out. Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2018 05:43 PM (xPl2J) 351
yankee, that wasn't very helpful. thanks for cheering me up!
Posted by: willow at April simply doing my part here. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:43 PM (MTjB1) 352
If Meta Muesli is doing this it means he has Jack Shit on Russia.
---------- Of COURSE he has jack shit on Russia. The whole damn thing has nothing whatsoever to do with Russia at all. It never did. It was a patent harassment operation designed to tick trump off and get him to fire people. It is an obstruction of justice trap. Period. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM Agree. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 05:43 PM (kTQeF) 353
oh and i do remember that! right They shouldn't be expected to stand up and be a hero because Hey ! that would be stooped. and what's so honorable about holding up the end of the bargain with the public anyway
that's for losers man-losers! Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:43 PM (eaoOY) 354
You don't need to charge anybody for the govt to ruin your life. Process, punishment, same diff. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2018 05:43 PM (r+sAi) 355
I saw the Moody Blues at the Hollywood Bowl about 25 years ago. I almost fell asleep.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2018 05:43 PM (xPl2J) 356
Oh, Mr. Mueller, just give me one week with your resources to look into YOUR background.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (oVJmc) 357
Finally we have a President with balls and this bullshit weakens him in the eyes of our enemies. That really pisses me off.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (o7tuA) 358
This is nothing but a last ditch desperate attempt to find anything they can before the IG report comes out, nothing more.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (+Dllb) This is SO much more. This is a whole new level of governmental attacks on us and our rights. Barky started turning the arms of the federal government into leftist attack tools to be used against political opponents and now they have gone the next full step. This is very serious stuff. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (8gDQu) 359
345 natural fake, oh contraire, they were interested in a dela re Trump/ Cohen /land in Russia to build a hotel thing
so there we are Russia! Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:35 PM (eaoOY) Seriously? Welp...certainly land for a hotel is a direct threat to the Republic. And not she little nothing like receiving multi-million dollar payoffs to give Russia 20% of US uranium. Good work, assholes. Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (9q7Dl) And I'll be its a LOT more than 5 years ago.... Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (NgKpN) 360
definintely reeks of desperation.
--- desperation is not the word I would use. It is more like 'by whatever means' to seize political power. More like escalation. Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (roQNm) 361
oh and i do remember that! right They shouldn't be expected to stand up and be a hero because Hey ! that would be stooped. and what's so honorable about holding up the end of the bargain with the public anyway
that's for losers man-losers! Posted by: willow at April yep Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (MTjB1) 362
Mueller comes off as some sick little perverted fuck peeping thru a hole in the drywall into the girls' locker room
looks like poor ol' Luke Crisco missed his calling. except he probably smells better Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (YaoJR) 363
To prove the strength of Flex-Tape, I sawed the country apart then taped it back together with Flex-Tape!
Posted by: The Flex-Tape Guy at April 09, 2018 05:36 PM (v3pYe) ............... Hooo doggie! Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (HgMAr) 364
orders another high speed, high capacity magazine clip*
Posted by: Taqyia2Me at April 09, 2018 05:13 PM Ordered 4, 30 rounders yesterday. Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (d0mSr) 365
President Trump deserves every thing that is happening. He could stop it all. He CHOOSES not to. His reasons. Good luck two scoops.
Posted by: nip at April 09, 2018 05:44 PM (ECLaL) 366
they would care less about Cohen if they weren't after Trump
so can trying to buy property in Russia to build a hotel a deal that fell apart in 2016 illegal? because that was the 'other' pretext used Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (eaoOY) 367
A co worker friend of mine is being taken off life support in ten minutes. Id like to get worked up about a bunch of phoney imaginary Media circus style BS but I just cant. Its not real.
Posted by: WonkishRogue at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (O9JR8) 368
338 I remember reading some time ago that Mueller way around Trump pardoning everyone was to make the crimes local and not Federal crimes. Apparently on the belief that POTUS can only pardon Federal crimes. Does this make any sense or is this a Internet myth?
Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 05:39 PM (G0vdT) Nope that is 100% correct IF the charges, if they are ever brought, are NY State Charges and not Federal Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (5y11N) ------ So that's why Mueller made it a referral to NY AG instead of taking it on his own. Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (G0vdT) 369
To me I kind of see this as the FBI flexing its muscle. Earlier today, I commented about the relative toothlessness of Congress. This kind of seems to me to be the FBI showing that they have the real power. And will continue to have it as long as Dems can run interference--and they totally will.
Trump and Congress want the FBI to get papers out faster than they are doing, but they can RAID houses, and throw people in the clink. Seize papers people might want to conceal. Posted by: Axeman at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (vDqXW) Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (eaoOY) 371
352 If Meta Muesli is doing this it means he has Jack Shit on Russia.
---------- Of COURSE he has jack shit on Russia. The whole damn thing has nothing whatsoever to do with Russia at all. It never did. It was a patent harassment operation designed to tick trump off and get him to fire people. It is an obstruction of justice trap. Period. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:29 PM Agree. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 05:43 PM (kTQeF) And the deals are from more than 5 years ago... so statute of limitations... So just what is the underlying crime that they can PROSECUTE???? Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (NgKpN) 372
one way or another, this is going to be our personal Antietam.
Posted by: pep at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (LAe3v) 373
Real crimes go un-investigated and unpunished, while fake crimes and made up charges get full Stasi treatment.
Typical democrat operation. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 09, 2018 05:46 PM (EoRCO) Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:46 PM (eaoOY) 375
350
Reading Ace's post, I remembered that Ms. Porny-Porn-Porn has a daughter. Should be around 8 years old. How proud she will be of her mommy's exploits. Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 05:40 PM (oiNtH) I wonder how a kid who was nursed on silicone turns out. Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2018 05:43 PM (xPl2J) I volunteer as tribute. Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 09, 2018 05:46 PM (Dp6qK) 376
the Cobra Kai has some advice for Trump, if he'll take it.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 09, 2018 05:46 PM (YaoJR) 377
"I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that, and I can't believe a judge would issue a warrant based only on that."
----------- I can. This is now a fight to the death between FBI and the president. We are watching a coup and telling ourselves that it's not really. What do you think is the endgame if not impeachment? Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (/3+Sg) 378
So that's why Mueller made it a referral to NY AG instead of taking it on his own.
Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (G0vdT) How does the NEW YORK AG, have jurisdiction over things about Russia? Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (NgKpN) 379
The fabled IG report(stolen so sue me) will be full of weasel words and dog shit but, mostly dog shit.
Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (r9UYA) Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (5y11N) Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (kufk0) 382
The piercing of the attorney client privilege is pretty dramatic.
Remember when Cheryl Mills and some other lady goombah who worked for State AND as Hilary's private attorneys during the secret server and deleted emails that were under FOIA? Sorry can't talk to them. Here let us help you destroy your devices that might aid in an investigation ...... Clown banana shit republic show! Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (7+qdf) 383
so can anyone state apprx how many Good guys are in the fbi or doj at this point?
do we have a tally. and we should look up the sostates? and DAs that soros has been buying. Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:37 PM (eaoOY) The only "safe" assumption, is ZERO. Fire them all. Every last one of 'em, down to the janitors. Let them re-apply, if they wish. Long as they pass a full worse-than-IRS-audit of every scrap of their lives back to puberty, to ensure that they're not latent Deep State operatives, or so inclined to such. That'd be Step One of their reinstatement. Next is to test 'em cold, with no study materials, about U.S. Civics, History, the Constitution, and the Federalist Papers. Require essays as to our Founding Principles. An essay reflecting their thoughts on the Second Amendment. As well as the Third, Fourth and Fifth Amendments, with a final paper required as to the Seventeenth Amendment. And at last, they have to face a tribunal of the President of Hillsdale College, Thomas Sowell and Victor Davis Hansen, for a three hour oral review before The Board. Passing all that, they can go back to work. Oh, and they have to re-take The Oath. Every Monday, for the remainder of their careers. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (QzJWU) 384
well, they are going after Cohen because he is so close to Trump and they hope he knows where all of the bodies are buried.
they probably also assume, correctly that Trump feels some loyalty to Cohen and will but pissed off by the move. Cohen will be fine whatever happens. He will not go to jail and I am sure Trump will make up for whatever losses he suffers eventually. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (MTjB1) 385
President Trump deserves every thing that is happening. He could stop it all. He CHOOSES not to. His reasons. Good luck two scoops.
=========== Well, if being logical and dispassionate about politics was what we did here, there would be no here here. But that was kind of an emo comment. Ha. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (UUixc) 386
So, Bob Mueller and Kim Gardener walk into a bar...there's a joke there somewhere.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (ty7RM) 387
A co worker friend of mine is being taken off life support in ten minutes. Id like to get worked up about a bunch of phoney imaginary Media circus style BS but I just cant. Its not real.
Jesus.. I'm so sorry. Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (dUJdY) 388
A co worker friend of mine is being taken off life
support in ten minutes. Id like to get worked up about a bunch of phoney imaginary Media circus style BS but I just cant. Its not real. Posted by: WonkishRogue at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (O9JR Prayers for your friend and you. I'm sitting and waiting for the passing of a friend any day/hour now. I doubt he'll make it to Wednesday. Visited him yesterday (and comforted his soon-to-be widow) and he was lucid enough to know my husband and I were there. I'll be handling his funeral reception. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (ptqGC) 389
307 I see Steve Wozniak has dropped Facebook over 'data collection.'
Claims Apple respects your privacy. Yeah. well, to be fair, an apple ii couldn't store all that much personal information to begin with. Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (sGtp+) 390
372
one way or another, this is going to be our personal Antietam. Posted by: pep By which I mean, the fine points of law are done. Now it's about raw power. Posted by: pep at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (LAe3v) 391
>>The fabled IG report(stolen so sue me) will be full of weasel words and dog shit but, mostly dog shit.
Do you think Sessions is going to fire McCabe? Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (/tuJf) 392
356 Oh, Mr. Mueller, just give me one week with your resources to look into YOUR background.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles ___________ A week? How about 45 seconds? Posted by: Andrew Weissman and Whitey Bulger at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (9vQJW) Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (LiyEm) 394
Is this a bad time to admit I've been worried all those sealed indictments weren't what we hoped they were?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (P83tS) 395
Mueller has never had anything because there never was anything.
When ya got nothing pound the table. How many FBI agents and prosecutors can they house at Ft. Wainwright? Posted by: DaveA at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (FhXTo) 396
The fabled IG report(stolen so sue me) will be full of weasel words and dog shit but, mostly dog shit.
------ Leave weasel dog out of this!! Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (kufk0) 397
FYI the New York AG is a communist POS who has already sued the President over the travel ban, etc. Quelle surprise.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (FLifI) 398
How does the NEW YORK AG, have jurisdiction over things about Russia?
Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (NgKpN) It is not about Russia but stormy weather. HOWEVER we do not know what they might find and refer it back to mueller. This whole thing is s fuckin shit show Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (5y11N) 399
378 So that's why Mueller made it a referral to NY AG instead of taking it on his own.
Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM (G0vdT) How does the NEW YORK AG, have jurisdiction over things about Russia? Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (NgKpN) ------- It doesn't. It's about putting the squeeze on everyone associated with Trump You know, kinda like the Mob. Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (G0vdT) 400
Years and years of Clinton crime family antics have been ignored but the FBI continues to go fishing for something on PDT. I don't know why he doesn't put a stop to it but if he doesn't we are truly...
Posted by: f'd at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (UdKB7) 401
Who is no Junior Samples.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (YxTUV) Who is no Whitman's Sampler. Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (gbWkA) Who is no Christine Todd Whitman.... Posted by: JoeF. Who is no Slim Whitman... Who is no Charles Whitman. Someone had to say it. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (AzW6q) 402
Mueller is after everyone associated with President Trump hoping someone will give up the goods on him
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (aC6Sd) 403
So IRL it would look more like this:
8/29: Review case file; 1.5 hrs. Travel to/from parking lot for consultation with skanky porn actress Daniels; 1.0 hr. Memo to file re consultation with skanky porn actress Daniels; 2.0 hrs Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 09, 2018 05:26 PM (fqUgw) True. Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (Z48ZB) 404
Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (r9UYA)
I tend to agree. Everyone is pinning their hopes on it.. I don't think there will be jack shit in his report. Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (dUJdY) 405
so much for attorney-client privilege too.
i need to organize the ammo pile: looks like it might be needed one of these days. in self-defense, of course. Posted by: redc1c4 at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (Dkm+q) 406
383 Fire them all. Every last one of 'em, down to the janitors.
Let them re-apply, if they wish. Long as they pass a full worse-than-IRS-audit of every scrap of their lives back to puberty, to ensure that they're not latent Deep State operatives, or so inclined to such. who watches the watcher? bolton can't investigate everyone single-handedly. might have to get chuck norris involved; he does have that texas ranger experience to draw on, after all... Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (v3pYe) 407
How does the NEW YORK AG, have jurisdiction over things about Russia?
===== Does not. But what evs he finds is going to be shared with other appropriate law enforcement entities. Naturally and by the book. Its almost as if you guys think this kind of stuff doesn't happen all the time -- I mean this is dealing with government law enforcement. Its like trying to stop a tidal wave with a teaspoon. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (JF8cM) 408
FYI the New York AG is a communist POS who has already sued the President over the travel ban, etc. Quelle surprise.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (FLifI) Yup and mueller knows this Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (5y11N) 409
It's just agitprop for the headline.
Posted by: DaveA at April 09, 2018 05:51 PM (FhXTo) 410
Funny thing is I don't even care about Trump that much, but the whole unfairness of it and the bureaucratic Frankenstein we all live under pisses me off. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2018 05:51 PM (r+sAi) 411
Believe me when I tell you that things often don't work out as you'd hoped.
Posted by: zombie Alexander Stephens at April 09, 2018 05:51 PM (LAe3v) 412
I'm amazed that the left still villifies Jeff Sessions.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 09, 2018 05:51 PM (N+OGf) 413
Serious Cat: "This is investigating a crime AGAINST Trump by Cohen..."
You don't actually believe that, do you? This is Team Meuller we're talking about. If there's one certainty in life right now, it's that Team Meuller does not exist to protect Trump. At all. Ever. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 09, 2018 05:51 PM (H8S+R) 414
404 Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (r9UYA)
I tend to agree. Everyone is pinning their hopes on it.. I don't think there will be jack shit in his report. Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (dUJdY) Inspector General Steiner, will come.... Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (NgKpN) 415
It was Federal prosecutors and not New York State who got the warrant and conducted the raid.
Posted by: John McVain at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (oHt/4) 416
The "crime" you spot in there is not a federal crime. If it's a crime at all, it's a state law crime.
Posted by: Random Thought Generator at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (iOKfQ) 417
274 Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love....
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) Who is no Candy Samples Posted by: Flawless Male Logic Who is no Junior Samples. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (YxTUV) Who is no Whitman's Sampler. Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (gbWkA) Who is no Christine Todd Whitman.... Posted by: JoeF. at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (7uYFy) Who is no Mark Goodson Bill Toddman Posted by: Minuteman at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (A3b6q) 418
I am actually surprised they did this now instead of waiting until late October.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (+Dllb) 419
Thanks all.
Posted by: WonkishRogue at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (O9JR8) 420
Is Cohen related to the mobster Cohen who died of aids and used to represent Trump back when he was first developing Trump Tower?
Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (Z48ZB) 421
The Deep State is deep. And cold, too.
This is about making association with Trump costly. Manafort would be living large were it not for the fact that he was, for a time, Trump's campaign manager. LTG Flynn is a 30+ year veteran, who should be a hero, not a criminal. Except, he worked for Trump. Rob Porter.... You see how this is working. They are going after anyone associated with Trump, to make them pay. Either they will force Trump out of office to save those people - imagine an FBI raid of Jared and Ivanka's place in Kalorama - or Trump will come out and slice like a fucking hammer. Posted by: blaster at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (jHrzU) 422
I can't imagine this benefits the dems going into the midterms or will be some magic bullet to get trump in some impeachment. Don't laugh too hard but I actually have some faith in some largish percentage of the the great unwashed masses when the shit gets this obvious.
They must really be freaking out over the IG report. This is existential at this point. Posted by: Keith at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (USf3s) 423
so much for attorney-client privilege too.
i need to organize the ammo pile: looks like it might be needed one of these days. in self-defense, of course. Posted by: redc1c4 at April well, that is an interesting angle about this whole thing. Nearly everyone has some basic understanding of two things thanks to crime shows - miranda rights and attorney client privilege. majority of people with think mueller is wrong to violate or seem to violate attorney client privilege. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (MTjB1) 424
Well we'll know soon enough because we all the know the leaks are coming
Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (O2RFr) 425
1) That went judge shopping, a reliable leftist tactic.
2) They raided home, office, and apartment of Cohen scooping up whatever. 3) This game is being played for keeps, at least by one side. Posted by: V at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM (Ueq18) 426
FYI the New York AG is a communist POS who has already sued the President over the travel ban, etc. Quelle surprise.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (FLifI) i see, so . surreal it all is. Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM (eaoOY) 427
Suetonius wrote a book once on "the lives of famous whores".
guess Stormy Daniels is looking for immortality. Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM (YaoJR) 428
Tomorific sock removed
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM (oHt/4) 429
I don't remember voting for Bob Mueller in November 2016.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM (EoRCO) 430
>>I tend to agree. Everyone is pinning their hopes on it.. I don't think there will be jack shit in his report.
So then why has there been a team of prosecutors working with the IG for months? You don't need prosecutors to write a dog shit report, you need them to pursue crimes. Why did Sessions appoint a second group of federal prosecutors over the weekend? Why have all these people been fired from the DOJ and OIG? Why are people like Loretta Lynch surfacing after months of laying low? I'm truly baffled why people on our side completely ignore any evidence of what has been going on for months in our favor and instead only focus on the negative. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM (/tuJf) 431
Wenck, not Steiner - Wenck
Posted by: Guy Who Always Makes This Tedious Pedantic Correction at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (Dhcvl) 432
well, in other news, Bolton starts today.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (MTjB1) Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (8u5U9) 434
I'm guessing the NY AG (Eric Schneiderman) has been promised a seat on SCOTUS or the US AG position (his choice) if he can nail Trump and give a NY based platform for his bloviating Wannabe Obama boss, Andrew "Evil Eyes" Cuomo into the Oval Office.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (FLifI) 435
406 383 Fire them all. Every last one of 'em, down to the janitors.
Let them re-apply, if they wish. Long as they pass a full worse-than-IRS-audit of every scrap of their lives back to puberty, to ensure that they're not latent Deep State operatives, or so inclined to such. who watches the watcher? bolton can't investigate everyone single-handedly. might have to get chuck norris involved; he does have that texas ranger experience to draw on, after all... Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (v3pYe) Anyone know what Demo Dick Marcinko is up to??? Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (NgKpN) 436
I'll see your FBI raid and raise you a dozen arrests.
Posted by: Two Scoops at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (FhXTo) 437
So just what is the underlying crime that they can PROSECUTE????
Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM Fishing. If I am Trump or his lawyers I say, oh you wanted an interview. Go fuck yourself now Bob. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (kTQeF) 438
365 - I think that this isn't as simple as you make it.
Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (oiNtH) 439
Is it time to militia yet?
It is damned sure getting close. The ENTIRE management of the FBI is as corrupt as Al Capone. If the rank and file FBI don't step in and arrest their superiors, they are as corrupt as the bosses. This is looking more and more like a modern version of Athens, Tennessee in 1946. Citizens ran the corrupt government officials out of town then, too. Except this corruption is the FBI leadership, not county officials. This is going to get ugly. It can turn 4GW really quick. I would not want to be a spouse or relative of one of these corrupt FBI officials if this continues. If/when it happens, they only have themselves to blame. And it is all about COVERING UP FOR OBAMA officials and their 2014-2017 crimes spying using the FISA court, fake Hillary investigation of her email destruction, and Mueller cover-up of Uranium One as FBI director. Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (UsCnO) 440
'Knights' in white satin. Which confused me. But then, I was a sheltered naive boy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 09, 2018 05:42 PM (xJa6I) I saw Knights in White Satin open for Fairies With Boots at the Amphitheater in Chicago in 1981. Posted by: Shep! at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (8iiMU) 441
It would be pretty funny if all the information the FBI just hauled out of that Lawyer's office pointed to the Clinton Foundation or maybe Kaiser Sosae.
If this guy was Trump's lawyer for a long time, I suspect he is pretty sharp. Posted by: JB1000 at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (qqJSj) 442
Of course, there was the Deutsch Bank search warrant or subpoenas, which turned out to be nothing. So I think we'll have to wait.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (0QYMt) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (oVJmc) 444
the federal prosecutors?
are they named yet? Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (eaoOY) 445
finxncidl crimes are Aldo violations of state law
Go back to watching judge Judy Posted by: Yes!! at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (1awYX) 446
Leave weasel dog out of this!! Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2018 05:49 PM (kufk0) ------- Yeah! *fistbump* Posted by: Weasel at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (MVjcR) 447
I just missed what Katherine Herridge was saying, but she ended quoting someone saying, "This could end very badly for President Trump."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC) 448
I can't imagine this benefits the dems going into the midterms or will be some magic bullet to get trump in some impeachment.
___________ If Trump's possible impeachment is the main issue in the midterms, that works to Republican's benefit in a big way. Democrats can't possibly get more outraged and enthusiastic, its Republican voters that have become lazy and detached. Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (lKmt3) 449
How does the NEW YORK AG, have jurisdiction over things about Russia?
===== Does not. But what evs he finds is going to be shared with other appropriate law enforcement entities. Naturally and by the book. Its almost as if you guys think this kind of stuff doesn't happen all the time -- I mean this is dealing with government law enforcement. Its like trying to stop a tidal wave with a teaspoon. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:50 PM (JF8cM) Yep, but these are the same guys who couldn't figure out who to notify about the graphic warnings they received that Nikolas Cruz was going on a shooting spree. Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (Z48ZB) 450
>> "173
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.".-- Posted by: Rev. Dr. Jim Comey Problem for you is that you haven't confessed your multitudinous heinous sins and legal punishment for the same. Therefore "Out of My presence, cursed as you are, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."-- Matt. 25:41 Posted by: GOD at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (EKvBl) 451
the federal prosecutors?
are they named yet? Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (eaoOY) Moe Shemp and Larry Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (5y11N) 452
Mueller hopes to find Russians in Stormy.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (Dp6qK) 453
>>>376 the Cobra Kai has some advice for Trump, if he'll take it.
He needs Mike Pence to sweep the leg? Posted by: wooga at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (3I7wr) 454
Condolences WonkishRogue.
Posted by: DaveA at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (FhXTo) 455
The only "safe" assumption, is ZERO.
Fire them all. Every last one of 'em, down to the janitors. Let them re-apply, if they wish. Long as they pass a full worse-than-IRS-audit of every scrap of their lives back to puberty, to ensure that they're not latent Deep State operatives, or so inclined to such. Posted by: Jim at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (QzJWU) Exactly. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (8gDQu) 456
Manafort would be living large were it not for the fact that he was, for a time, Trump's campaign manager. LTG Flynn is a 30+ year veteran, who should be a hero, not a criminal. Except, he worked for Trump. Rob Porter....
------------ Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is... Posted by: Boots at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (EBwPV) 457
So just what is the underlying crime that they can PROSECUTE????
============= The crime they want to prosecute hasn't been committed yet. They want to prosecute for obstruction of justice. And they want to prosecute that by way of impeachment. To get there they have to create a flaming carnage of trump's name, his friends and family whatever it takes to force trump into blowing a gasket and firing Mueller. This has nothing to DO with law. Its all politics. and the Republicans are in on it as well. Do you not recall the Alabama senate seat? They are going to impeach trump if they get a fig leaf. They do not care about riots or war. They are an cornered animals. They see no other option. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (kkt7n) 458
Oh, and the other reason for siezing privileged communications is not not to get them into court, but rather to leak them.
They will be leaked, this is a guarantee. Joe DiGenova was on the radio this afternoon saying that the US attorney's office up there in NY has this great team that is set up to review privileged materials and keep them from getting to the investigators.... He did not quite use the phrase "stand up guys," but he made it sound that it was very careful and intended to protect targets of malicious prosecution. I take this to mean that these are dirty cops running a kangaroo court. Posted by: blaster at April 09, 2018 05:56 PM (jHrzU) 459
I won't know what to think until the celebrities tell me.
Posted by: American Citizens, 30-50 percent at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (EVeeU) Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (S9lcG) 461
>>I only know the one song, 'Nights in White Satin'....which I always thought was 'Knights' in white satin. Which confused me. But then, I was a sheltered naive boy.
Same here. I loved the song until I realized it meant almost the opposite of what I thought it meant. Oh well. At least it wasn't "Bald-Headed Woman." Posted by: Caliban at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (eAu3k) 462
I'm guessing the NY AG (Eric Schneiderman) ...
Isn't he related to a big Dem? Wasserman Schultz maybe? Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (Z48ZB) 463
One wonders if the FBI ought to raid itself at this point to get the Steele dossier to the House Intelligence Committee...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (e9G8E) 464
I'm truly baffled why people on our side completely ignore any evidence of what has been going on for months in our favor and instead only focus on the negative.
Because in my long life of 29 years I've learned to not ever get my hopes up that anyone in DOJ, FBI or any other agency will do the right thing. Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (dUJdY) 465
I'm truly baffled why people on our side completely ignore any evidence of what has been going on for months in our favor and instead only focus on the negative. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM (/tuJf) The way GOPe stalls trump is one reason. Lot of other things they should help him with. Posted by: muckrack at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (RZ4iC) 466
I look like a gay hood ornament.
Posted by: Jay at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (gbWkA) 467
Trump is clearly guilty of "Governing While Republican".
Posted by: VTZuke at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (lgW+1) 468
>>>>>I tend to agree. Everyone is pinning their hopes on it.. I don't think there will be jack shit in his report.
So then why has there been a team of prosecutors working with the IG for months? You don't need prosecutors to write a dog shit report, you need them to pursue crimes. Why did Sessions appoint a second group of federal prosecutors over the weekend? Why have all these people been fired from the DOJ and OIG? Why are people like Loretta Lynch surfacing after months of laying low? I'm truly baffled why people on our side completely ignore any evidence of what has been going on for months in our favor and instead only focus on the negative. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM . . .Yep....why did lynch go on national TV and throw comey under the bus for lying to Congress? She knows something bad is coming down the pike and soon so she is trying to get out front of it and clear her name. For some reason a whole lot of people on here who should know better want Sessions, et. al. to come out with daily press conferences announcing exactly who they are investigating and what evidence they have so far. That's simply not the way real investigations work. You don't hear squat about them until indictments start getting unsealed. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (+Dllb) 469
437 So just what is the underlying crime that they can PROSECUTE???? Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:45 PM Fishing. If I am Trump or his lawyers I say, oh you wanted an interview. Go fuck yourself now Bob. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 05:54 PM (kTQeF) FISHING SHOULD BE A CRIME!!!! EVERYDAY INNUMERABLE FISH ARE BRUTALLY MURDERED BY FISHERMEN, IT'S VERITABLE GENOCIDE!!!!! Posted by: PETA at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (N+OGf) 470
Little Camera Hogg is taking a year off after HS prior to college to work on the mid-terms. Screechy little cuck thinks that he has so much influence.
Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (oiNtH) 471
"Fire them all. Every last one of 'em, down to the janitors."
--------- FBI is now completely worthless in American voters eyes, I would not trust them to issue parking tickets. On the other hand, all this turmoil can be sheeted home to Republicans. They want to make sure no upstart ever has the nerve to defy them and go straight to the people. What do you think this is? A democracy? No sirree bub, this is republic and therefore they are in charge. Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (/3+Sg) Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (eaoOY) 473
Manafort would be living large were it not for the fact that he was, for a time, Trump's campaign manager.
Manafort's partner is guilty once removed. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (oVJmc) 474
I won't know what to think until the celebrities tell me.
-- Joy Reid is hoping Trump will resist arrest. Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (roQNm) 475
Looks like that interview with mueller is out the fuckin window
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (5y11N) 476
I can't believe no one mentioned me. I do hand made batches.
Posted by: Russell Stover at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (EVeeU) 477
Mueller has a history of pursuing the innocent until they either commit suicide, or a court orders him to back off and pays the victim of his harassment. This is the entire reason he was picked for the job.
The tell was when all of the GOPe vouched for his character. I bet the coup plotters never thought they could have access to Trump's entire business history and come up this empty. He has to be the cleanest businessman in history if they can't find something, of some sort to get him with. Posted by: thatch at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (+p2i/) 478
Jack I respect your opinion and I truly hope you are right. But so far this has been nothing but a shit show.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (dUJdY) 479
This is all going to the Supreme Court and will get very nasty
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (5y11N) 480
knights in white satin is the hardcore gay monty python version. makes the bunny attack scene seem tame.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (MTjB1) 481
How does the NEW YORK AG, have jurisdiction over things about Russia?
===== It was FEDERAL prosecutors, not state, who conducted the raid. Or so say the news articles. Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (oHt/4) 482
>>The way GOPe stalls trump is one reason.
Lot of other things they should help him with. The IG investigation has exactly dick to do with the GOP. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (/tuJf) 483
This is War. I am fed the Eff up. Fire them all until you get a fire breathing, junk yard dog of a conservative lawyer to take them all down.
Posted by: Jmel at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (lfEpJ) 484
I won't know what to think until the celebrities tell me.
Posted by: American Citizens, 30-50 percent at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (EVeeU) --- I think it will be a Yay moment. Posted by: Axeman at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (vDqXW) 485
Contrary to the thought Why didn't this wait till coser to October?, I think its keep cutting until one cut is fatal or until October whichever is first.
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (aC6Sd) 486
But so far this has been nothing but a shit show.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (dUJdY) get ready for the second act Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (5y11N) 487
So....how do we mobilize and rally around Trump????Anyone??? The media is out.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2018 06:00 PM (kufk0) 488
Little Camera Hogg is taking a year off after HS prior to college to work on the mid-terms.
That and he didn't get into the schools he wanted. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 06:00 PM (oVJmc) 489
Yep, but these are the same guys who couldn't figure out who to notify about the graphic warnings they received that Nikolas Cruz was going on a shooting spree.
================= Do you think they really wanted to stop him? I mean 37 chances to see the obvious and you do nothing about it. Funny how that turned into a fabulous media circus so quickly and smoothly after the event. But hey mistakes were made, but Guns are bad M'kay. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (dbKmZ) 490
Dammit.
You guys ruined "Kights in White Satin" for me. All those years of denial right down the drain. Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (EVeeU) 491
"I'm truly baffled why people on our side completely ignore any evidence of what has been going on for months in our favor and instead only focus on the negative. " Because nothing ever f'n happens that's why. Posted by: f'd at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (UdKB7) 492
It was FEDERAL prosecutors, not state, who conducted the raid. Or so say the news articles.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 09, 2018 05:59 PM (oHt/4) so would they have had to Obtain Another Fisa warrant for this? Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (eaoOY) 493
I'm waiting for a Xpost-facto Tick Tock from Calamity and the Bards of FNC.
Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (r9UYA) 494
I sure hope Jack is right of course. But seeing Mueller raid and charge every other week vs the so called IG prosecutors supposedly dotting t's and crossing eyes, I don't hold out much hope. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (r+sAi) 495
Should put Levin on, he will be spitting nails
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (aC6Sd) 496
I thought it was attained in NY?
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (eaoOY) 497
Placing my bet right now.
These search warrants executed on Cohen's office and his home are NOT about Stormy Daniels, but instead are about money laundering. Posted by: Donald J. Trump's Bone Spurs at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (x+yK4) 498
You ask for miracles?
I give you the Eff Bee Eye. Posted by: Hans Gruber at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (oi593) 499
460 art of war
always leave your enemy and avenue of escape. Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 05:57 PM (S9lcG) -------------------------- That worked out well for the Germans at Dunkirk /s. Posted by: William Eaton at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (MuTTO) 500
447
I just missed what Katherine Herridge was saying, but she ended quoting someone saying, "This could end very badly for President Trump." Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC) This could en very badly for everyone if it continues. Posted by: muckrack at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (RZ4iC) 501
Laying in supplies of Hoppes #9 here, boss.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (fA1SL) 502
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:53 PM
. . .Yep....why did lynch go on national TV and throw comey under the bus for lying to Congress? She knows something bad is coming down the pike and soon so she is trying to get out front of it and clear her name. For some reason a whole lot of people on here who should know better want Sessions, et. al. to come out with daily press conferences announcing exactly who they are investigating and what evidence they have so far. That's simply not the way real investigations work. You don't hear squat about them until indictments start getting unsealed. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (+Dllb) I'm sticking with you guys. Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (Z48ZB) 503
If only the FBI would crawl up Clinton's ass like this.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (uGHnY) 504
lindu, i don't think my rally cry Of Keep your chin up Trump. is really enough.
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (eaoOY) 505
If I were paranoid and suspicious, I might believe that Mueller knows what's in the IG report and is creating a big ball of shit, scorching the earth in advance of the public release of said report.
Posted by: BluesFish at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (ZVhse) 506
Trusting the Plan here, boss.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (fA1SL) 507
>>Jack I respect your opinion and I truly hope you are right. But so far this has been nothing but a shit show.
Well save for the firing of the Director of the FBI, the Deputy Director of the FBI, the Deputy Attorney General, the lead counsel for the FBI, a couple department heads, a few agents and criminal indictments looming on the horizon, sure, nothing has happened. Why do you think Andrew McCabe's lawyer ran a fundraiser to pay for his legal defense for a prosecution he called likely? People are way too easily played by the media they claim is fake and they hate. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (/tuJf) 508
>>>>>Placing my bet right now.
These search warrants executed on Cohen's office and his home are NOT about Stormy Daniels, but instead are about money laundering. Posted by: Donald J. Trump's Bone Spurs at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM . . .Nope, he is going to be charged with illegal campaign donations under some obscure FEC law over his payment to the pron star. Notice she has shut her mouth lately. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (+Dllb) 509
Who is no Christine Todd Whitman....
Posted by: JoeF. Who is no Wee Todd... oh wait she's a politician Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (HgMAr) 510
I sure hope Jack is right of course. But seeing Mueller raid and charge every other week vs the so called IG prosecutors supposedly dotting t's and crossing eyes, I don't hold out much hope.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2018 06:01 PM (r+sAi) this.... I see our side being publically raided by the FBI... I don't hear squat about FBI raids on Hillary or Obama people. Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (NgKpN) 511
Is it just me or is this maybe worse than it first appears? Like this might be really bad.
Posted by: Max Power at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (QCc6B) 512
Jane, did Katherine expound on that?
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (eaoOY) I wasn't paying attention. Was reading a text from a friend re our dying friend. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (ptqGC) 513
Ya know, watching Western Civilization commit suicide is really messing with my day to day work schedule.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (EVeeU) 514
Hes ( Levin) is talking about Sen Kennedy
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:04 PM (aC6Sd) 515
These search warrants executed on Cohen's office and his home are NOT about Stormy Daniels, but instead are about money laundering. Since Trump pays Cohen, any action on Trump's behalf by Cohen constitutes 'money laundering.' If you torture the law sufficiently, that is. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 06:04 PM (oVJmc) 516
Well if this is to get some dirt on Trump and smear him in public, it's not much different from the lines they crossed to get information on his campaign when they should have been doing work.
Posted by: Axeman at April 09, 2018 06:04 PM (vDqXW) 517
"Inspector General Steiner, will come....
Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (NgKpN)" --------- A very good analogy. Has anyone even seen this mythical IG? I think that's a story put out by Sessions to quiet the opposition while he lets it all burn. Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2018 06:04 PM (/3+Sg) 518
alright Jane, i'm sorry about your friend and her husband.
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (eaoOY) 519
in other funny news, hbo is reviewing the contracts of every actor and actress to make sure men and women are paid the same.
wonder how many people are going to have to take pay cuts to get everything aligned? can't simply raise the pay of the lesser paid. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (MTjB1) Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (ptqGC) 521
That worked out well for the Germans at Dunkirk /s.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (MuTTO) The Germans were at Pearl Harbor. Posted by: Bluto at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (gbWkA) 522
maybe it's time to start drinking.
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (eaoOY) 523
Who goes to slice off the other's head first?
Posted by: Hikaru at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (yXU4O) 524
This is also an attempt to cripple PDT and use the argument that he should not appoint anymore Judges
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (5y11N) 525
*looks at ammo cans*
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (89T5c) 526
Now Levin is talking about Mueller
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (aC6Sd) 527
>>>Who is no Mark Goodson Bill Toddman
Posted by: Minuteman<<< Who is no toothy, midget Scientologist dancing around to Warren Zevon's Werewolves of London, breezing his hair and twirling a pool cue like a bo staff. Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (bJ0w+) 528
alright Jane, i'm sorry about your friend and her husband.
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (eaoOY) Thanks, hon. This is a tough time. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (ptqGC) 529
If Mueller came across actual evidence of a crime that was not related to his investigation (assuming that his "investigation" had any actual limits), he would have to forward that information to the appropriate jurisdiction for follow up, right? The timing makes it seem likely related to the prostitute thing, but I guess it could be anything.
Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (Z48ZB) 530
Start a go fund me for Trumps defense?
Posted by: lin-duh at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (kufk0) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (oVJmc) 532
Trump was never supposed to win the election. After all of this time they still haven't had any big reveals and no crimes committed. They will do all in their power to "make" a crime.
Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (oiNtH) 533
maybe it's time to start drinking.
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:05 PM (eaoOY) 5:14 here... Past time!. Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (Z48ZB) 534
"Why do you think Andrew McCabe's lawyer ran a fundraiser to pay for his legal defense for a prosecution he called likely?"
-------- Why wouldn't the lawyer run a little scam on the side if there are easy marks out there? Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (/3+Sg) 535
ALL because of sessions' recusing himself
Sigh Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (5y11N) 536
People are way too easily played by the media they claim is fake and they hate.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 06:03 PM (/tuJf) True , hope for the best but prepare for the worst . Posted by: muckrack at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (RZ4iC) 537
LaSue - but it seems Mueller has or thinks he has carte blanche on crimes committed anywhere
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (aC6Sd) 538
Joy Reid is hoping Trump will resist arrest. Posted by: Skandia Recluse I'm hoping Joy Reid resists existence. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (IqV8l) 539
the story about the threat from the thug is complete bullshit.
Thugs don't issue threats in order to then pay you over a hundred thousand dollars. They threaten you with the idea of bodily harm, not fucking hush money. Posted by: kallisto at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (kD8Fh) 540
Laying in supplies of Hoppes #9 here, boss.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 09, 2018 06:02 PM (fA1SL) Don't forget the Ballistol....... Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (EoRCO) 541
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Has anyone even seen this mythical IG? Horowitz is well known and has been around a long time. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (oVJmc) Yes.... he was around all through the Obama administration... And watched all the shit go down with them... all the shit they did. And did.... nothing.... Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 06:08 PM (NgKpN) 542
>>>>Has anyone even seen this mythical IG?
Horowitz is well known and has been around a long time. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM...Yep and Sessions has appointed a Prosecutor not from DC to coordinate with the IG, so yes it is real. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 06:08 PM (+Dllb) 543
Why are people like Loretta Lynch surfacing after months of laying low?
Okay, for the first time I'm willing to but that there's something subterranean going on here. I'm NOT willing to accept that it will play out correctly in the end, though. Posted by: pep at April 09, 2018 06:08 PM (LAe3v) Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 06:08 PM (r9UYA) 545
Straightforward from here...
Posted by: Sally Kohn at April 09, 2018 06:08 PM (ctGui) 546
but = admit
Posted by: pep at April 09, 2018 06:08 PM (LAe3v) 547
jack it's not the media, it's the DOJ and FBI we're speaking of.
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:08 PM (eaoOY) 548
the story about the threat from the thug is complete bullshit.
No kidding. Sounds like something from a B movie. I mean.. it's sure not very original is it? Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (dUJdY) 549
I gotta say this, as an early adopter of the internet... if Facebook, Google, and YouTube think -- after sniffing my search history for a decade plus -- that delivering a Mormon advertisement to me ten times a day is a good value for someones money... they're off their rockers. Or Mormons have a $hitload of money to waste in hopes of my conversion. Not interested. At all. I mean, doesn't anyone notice I kill the advertisement within 6 seconds? These people/algorithms aren't nearly as intelligent as they think they are. Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (LOgQ4) 550
"These guy can come at you six ways from Sunday"
Posted by: franksalterego at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (3cq8T) 551
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274 Stormy Daniels is no Brandi Love.... Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm) Who is no Madison Ivy Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:21 PM (tcQdP) Who is no Candy Samples Posted by: Flawless Male Logic Who is no Junior Samples. Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (YxTUV) Who is no Whitman's Sampler. Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 05:28 PM (gbWkA) Who is no Christine Todd Whitman.... Posted by: JoeF. at April 09, 2018 05:31 PM (7uYFy) Who is no Mark Goodson Bill Toddman Posted by: Minuteman at April 09, 2018 05:52 PM (A3b6q) Who is no Kay Parker Posted by: redc1c4 at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (Dkm+q) 552
Just the white-hot rage from the left would be worth it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh "Hey Bob, you're a big dummy and a shyster! Yeah, I said it!" Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (oiNtH) 553
Oh, and f*** Mueller.
Posted by: pep at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (LAe3v) 554
>>>>>Has anyone even seen this mythical IG?
Horowitz is well known and has been around a long time. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (oVJmc) Yes.... he was around all through the Obama administration... And watched all the shit go down with them... all the shit they did. And did.... nothing.... Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 06:08 PM . . . .Because holder and then lynch shut off his funds and staff and told him to back off. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (+Dllb) 555
this is just to create the aura of guilt in the minds of the public. My congressman Curt Weldon's house was raided in a very public way, the papers were alerted ahead of time so they could publish front page pics.
That was oh, ten years or so ago. HE HAS NEVER BEEN CHARGED WITH A CRIME. But he lost his election to Joe Sestak, and that was the objective. This raid is just Deep State doing its thing. Posted by: kallisto at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (kD8Fh) 556
I think this is a smokescreen. Perusing the news to see what else they don't want front page news.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (89T5c) 557
So,how about this Japanese Babe Ruth, Shohei Ohtani?
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (LiyEm) 558
in other funny news, hbo is reviewing the contracts of every actor and actress to make sure men and women are paid the same.
So Michael Caine gets paid the same as Third Spear Carrier from the Left? Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (oVJmc) 559
Has anyone been seen sittting in their car and crying in the parking lot of Justice?
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 06:10 PM (EVeeU) 560
Cheri: "Little Camera Hogg is taking a year off after HS prior to college to work on the mid-terms..."
What, did no college at all want that dingleberry after all? Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 09, 2018 06:10 PM (H8S+R) 561
eevrytime i think of lorretta lynch, i think of her asking for blood in the streets.. and i think who the hell even mentions that as the head of the DOJ!
these people are so bad. Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:10 PM (eaoOY) 562
Why are people like Loretta Lynch surfacing after months of laying low?
Comey has his little book coming out. She is covering her ass. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 06:10 PM (ptqGC) 563
We'll all have our front doors broken in before Horowitz releases the much talked about Report which, will be full of weasel words and dog shit. Mostly dog shit.
Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 06:10 PM (r9UYA) 564
be prepared for lots of "kinder, gentler" talk from new president mike pence...
Posted by: zucked at April 09, 2018 06:10 PM (KL5Ns) 565
>>Yes.... he was around all through the Obama administration...
>>And watched all the shit go down with them... all the shit they did. >>And did.... nothing.... That is completely wrong. You might want to take a look at what Obama and Holder did to all the IGs throughout the Exec branch and who led the fight against him and which resulted in IGs getting their powers back just in time to run this investigation. It's a pretty enormous scandal all of it's own and Horowitz was one of the heroes of that scandal. He's no fan of Obama and Holder. Not Sally Yates either. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (/tuJf) 566
Guess who signed off on Mueller's fishing trip? Rosenstein. Unfucking real.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (kTQeF) 567
I understand that they gave Stormy Daniels a retroactive appointment as FBI Double-Secret Special Agent, making payments to her a bribe and obstruction of justice. That's according to a new memo from Rosenstein.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (IeDO8) 568
These people/algorithms aren't nearly as intelligent as they think they are.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (LOgQ4) This is how we lull you to sleep, human Posted by: Skynet at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (gbWkA) 569
As some would call them--our betters here --advise patience....Jeff and His boss Rosenstein have everything under control...its a long,complicated game they are playing....
Somehow methinks the game Mueller and his guys are playing is the better,surer way. Posted by: Redgrains at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (WPxnj) 570
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in other funny news, hbo is reviewing the contracts of every actor and actress to make sure men and women are paid the same. So Michael Caine gets paid the same as Third Spear Carrier from the Left? Posted by: Mr. Peebles Sexist. Women can be spear carriers too. Posted by: pep at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (LAe3v) 571
We'll all have our front doors broken in before Horowitz releases the much talked about Report which, will be full of weasel words and dog shit. Mostly dog shit.
Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 06:10 PM (r9UYA) Yup. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (8gDQu) 572
529 If Mueller came across actual evidence of a crime that was not related to his investigation (assuming that his "investigation" had any actual limits), he would have to forward that information to the appropriate jurisdiction for follow up, right? The timing makes it seem likely related to the prostitute thing, but I guess it could be anything.
Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 06:06 PM (Z48ZB) Nope... he went after a foreign Lawyer, who lied to him while Mueller was investigating a Report that Manafort had a hand in, dealing with the incarceration of the Ukrainian President... The ONLY connection to the US at all, was Manafort... peripherally.... yet the Lawyer is now spending 30 days in US Jail. Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (NgKpN) 573
the story about the threat from the thug is complete bullshit.
Thugs don't issue threats in order to then pay you over a hundred thousand dollars. They threaten you with the idea of bodily harm, not fucking hush money. Posted by: kallisto at April 09, 2018 06:07 PM (kD8Fh) The whole "threat" story sounded like something from a cheap Lifetime movie. Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (Z48ZB) 574
558 HBO doing the work communists won't do
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (aC6Sd) 575
There will always be people that call for patience. That insist nothing is ever as bad as it seems.
But patience isn't always a virtue. And sometimes ... things can be even worse. I'll place my bets now - the IG Indictments are a waste of time. They will result in zero convictions. Those of you that constantly call for patience are going to be proved suckers. You've been waiting to be saved by a legal system thats already been turned against you. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (VQcx0) 576
Time for meadows and Jordan to put up and start impeaching Rosenstein and other DoJ scumbags.
Posted by: Iblis at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (GQH1D) 577
@8: "So they are basically voting themselves free helicopter ride with their actions. Have fun on the way down. Enjoy the view."
There is no Pinochet here. No one on the Right in the US would ever attempt such a thing. Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (rznWS) 578
Guess who signed off on Mueller's fishing trip? Rosenstein. Unfucking real.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (kTQeF) Rosenstein, whose wife is a long-time Clinton attorney. Yeah, unfucking real. Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (ptqGC) 579
Supposedly, Hogg's going to UC Irvine. Used to be a great school but is all SJW now. He'll love it.
Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (oiNtH) 580
Google, and YouTube think -- after sniffing my search history for a decade plus -- that delivering a Mormon advertisement to me ten times a day is a good value for someones money...
they're off their rockers. Or Mormons have a $hitload of money to waste in hopes of my conversion. Not interested. At all. I mean, doesn't anyone notice I kill the advertisement within 6 seconds? These people/algorithms aren't nearly as intelligent as they think they are. Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April you seem to misunderstand how the algorithm works. the momon church gave google a call and asked for a list of people that spend all day ordering booze and smokes while playing online poker, eating pork rinds, surfing porn, looking for low priced packages for ladyboy tours in bangkok. people who need saving. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (MTjB1) Posted by: Achmed the Tentmaker at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (oVJmc) 582
560 Cheri: "Little Camera Hogg is taking a year off after HS prior to college to work on the mid-terms..."
Totally saw that coming. Totally. He has shown he has power...the groups on the left are gonna leverage that bigly. Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (EVeeU) 583
So your conversations with your lawyer are now fair game? So why hire a lawyer if you can't tell him the truth without also de facto confessing once the government decides they need to see what you said to the lawyer? Do lawyers know that their inherent crookededness is already widely known? Why go to the bother of informing the last few not in the know i.e. cave morons?
Posted by: Steve Earle Song Ideas at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (PvCxa) 584
567 I understand that they gave Stormy Daniels a retroactive appointment as FBI Double-Secret Special Agent, making payments to her a bribe and obstruction of justice. That's according to a new memo from Rosenstein.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (IeDO Agent Double D? Posted by: Jethro Bodine, double nought spy at April 09, 2018 06:13 PM (NgKpN) 585
558 Soon females will have to have equal screen time,equal amount of lines and equal action scenes.
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 06:13 PM (LiyEm) 586
Used to be a great school but is all SJW now.
Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM (oiNtH) You just described almost every college in America. Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2018 06:13 PM (xPl2J) 587
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We'll all have our front doors broken in before Horowitz releases the much talked about Report which, will be full of weasel words and dog shit. Mostly dog shit. It does seem to be rather slow in coming, n'est ce pas? Posted by: pep at April 09, 2018 06:13 PM (LAe3v) 588
Comey has his little book coming out. She is covering her ass.
Is the book big enough to cover it? Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 06:13 PM (EVeeU) 589
That is completely wrong. You might want to take a look at what Obama and Holder did to all the IGs throughout the Exec branch and who led the fight against him and which resulted in IGs getting their powers back just in time to run this investigation.
It's a pretty enormous scandal all of it's own and Horowitz was one of the heroes of that scandal. He's no fan of Obama and Holder. Not Sally Yates either. Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (/tuJf) I remember what Barky did to any IG that got too close to writing up the criminality of Barky and his buddies. They fired them on the spot (and then spread stories of how "insane" one of them was) and then the investigations totally stopped. And no one did anything more about it. NO ONE. For all those years. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 06:13 PM (8gDQu) 590
116 Somebody's pants are on fire.
And have been for some time. After all of the years of the left flooding the zone with sexual perversion and mainstreaming said perversion, do they really thing the rest of us are going to get the vapors over some raunchy extramarital sex by an admitted power-wielding alpha male? Where are my pearls when I need to clutch them, anyway? Posted by: tcn in AK I'm wearing a pearl necklace right now but I'm pretty sure you don't want to clutch it. Posted by: Stormy Daniels at April 09, 2018 06:14 PM (IeDO8) 591
Saw this morning Attention Hogg was going the U of New Mexico, maybe his Leftist star has risen more.
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:14 PM (aC6Sd) 592
I see Steve Wozniak has dropped Facebook over 'data collection.'
Claims Apple respects your privacy. - Sorry, so I'm not misunderstanding: Ipad and iPhone users can no longer download or use Facebook on their devices? Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 06:14 PM (ks6bw) 593
ZULU! Now with an all female cast!
Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 06:14 PM (gbWkA) 594
PDT calls the raid on Cohen's Office a Disgrace.
I think this could prod PDT to take "some" action Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 06:15 PM (5y11N) 595
People should read the parts in the Omnibus spending bill carved out about the IG report and OIG investigation. Close to 500 million IIRC set aside for that and nobody can interfere.
Combine that with Human Trafficking EO, 24,500 federal sealed indictments as of 3/31/18, and rumors of Marines and GITMO preparations..... I'd say the FBI raiding Trump's lawyer reeks of desperation. The wheels of justice move very slow. Ask me how I know.... Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 06:15 PM (tcQdP) 596
>>>What, did no college at all want that dingleberry after all?
His rejections were decided before the shooting, but automatically mailed out after. He knows that if he applies again next year, they will accept him. Full ride. They need the Posted by: wooga at April 09, 2018 06:15 PM (3I7wr) 597
>>>>>There will always be people that call for patience. That insist nothing is ever as bad as it seems.
But patience isn't always a virtue. And sometimes ... things can be even worse. I'll place my bets now - the IG Indictments are a waste of time. They will result in zero convictions. Those of you that constantly call for patience are going to be proved suckers. You've been waiting to be saved by a legal system thats already been turned against you. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM . . .I will take that bet. How does $50 sound to you? I will give you the 50 if there are zero convictions or plea bargains resulting from the IG investigation. It's a sucker bet because Sessions would not have appointed a prosecutor if he wasn't expecting indictments. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 06:15 PM (+Dllb) 598
I think at one point, there were only 5 IG's working in Obama's cabinet. Out of 13 agencies. This went on for a while.
Republicans said .......nothing. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 09, 2018 06:15 PM (89T5c) 599
The Great White Scotsman: "Notice she has shut her mouth lately."
Wow. That's going to hurt her pocketbook. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 09, 2018 06:15 PM (H8S+R) Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 06:16 PM (eaoOY) 601
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558 Soon females will have to have equal screen time,equal amount of lines and equal action scenes. Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 06:13 PM (LiyEm) And the impact on porno movies? Do gargle sounds count as lines? Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2018 06:16 PM (jxbfJ) 602
Saw this morning Attention Hogg was going the U of New Mexico, maybe his Leftist star has risen more.
Posted by: Skip at April wouldn't that be a sign of his star declining? Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 06:16 PM (MTjB1) 603
This is exactly the type of tactics that scare people, piss them off and then motivate them to vote.
In the end, this does not bode well for Democrats Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2018 06:17 PM (sfAgW) 604
The FISA court does not have jurisdiction over domestically-executed search warrants.
The FISA court only has to do with FISA warrants, and FISA warrants are all about wiretaps of phone calls and email messaging involving American residents communicating with foreign-based residents. The FBI would never need to conduct a physical search on Cohen's office and home to obtain wiretaps of phone calls and email messages. Both of those types of communications automatically get swept into the NSA storage facilities. FISA warrants allow the feds to search those facilities for communications that have already been swept up and stored. All you have to do to understand how all this works is read James Bamford's The Shadow Factory, available at between $15 and $18 from Amazon. If you don't have the bucks or you hate Amazon, no problem: just read the comprehensive investigative reports WaPo and others did on the StellarWind program. If you don't trust WaPo becuz you think Bezos sucks heiny, then just read the 2013 Inspector General's report on how the US Intelligence Community hid Stellar Wind and the fact that since early on in GWBush's first term, it's been hoovering up everything. So - if Mueller doesn't need these searches to nail Cohen or Trump or whoever on phone calls or emails, what DOES he need them for? Answer: banking information Posted by: Donald J. Trump's Bone Spurs at April 09, 2018 06:17 PM (x+yK4) 605
I'll place my bets now - the IG Indictments are a waste of time. They will result in zero convictions.
Those of you that constantly call for patience are going to be proved suckers. You've been waiting to be saved by a legal system thats already been turned against you. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (VQcx0) IG can't even indict. He can recommend... but that's it. He can't fire.... he can only point out wrongdoing. He can't investigate anyone outside his Agency. He can't subpoena witnesses... he can only ask to interview if they are outside his Agency. He could find the smoking gun that Hillary ordered a Murder.... and could only recommend that someone else do something.... Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 06:17 PM (NgKpN) 606
So with this precedent when can we expect the US attorney and FBI raids on Perkins Coie or the law firms handling the highly suspect (RICO and/or Logan Act anyone?) matters of the Clinton Foundation? Oh right. Some animals are more equal than others. Posted by: Nevyan at April 09, 2018 06:17 PM (B+JhD) 607
Nope... he went after a foreign Lawyer, who lied to him while Mueller was investigating a Report that Manafort had a hand in, dealing with the incarceration of the Ukrainian President...
The ONLY connection to the US at all, was Manafort... peripherally.... yet the Lawyer is now spending 30 days in US Jail. Posted by: Don Q. at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM (NgKpN) The Skadden associate. I forgot about him- I'll read up on that. Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 06:17 PM (Z48ZB) 608
Buried by this news is that Lynch doubled down on her meeting with Billy just casual conversation/grandkids bullshit. So an ex POTUS who's in the middle of a campaign just so happens to bump into Lynch on a private plane and then just decides to bop on over to say howdy to talk about grandkids? Sure. Fucking liar.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 06:18 PM (kTQeF) 609
603 Fuck the Dems. This got fuck all to do with the Dems. It's got everything to do with organized crime.
Posted by: Donald J. Trump's Bone Spurs at April 09, 2018 06:18 PM (x+yK4) 610
People are way too easily played by the media they claim is fake and they hate. The list of firings and reassignments includes zero prosecutions and zero momentum-stoppers, so far. Mueller and the Deep State team keep on keepin on. So stop with the preening. Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 09, 2018 06:18 PM (oHt/4) 611
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>>>>>There will always be people that call for patience. That insist nothing is ever as bad as it seems. But patience isn't always a virtue. And sometimes ... things can be even worse. I'll place my bets now - the IG Indictments are a waste of time. They will result in zero convictions. Those of you that constantly call for patience are going to be proved suckers. You've been waiting to be saved by a legal system thats already been turned against you. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 06:11 PM . . .I will take that bet. How does $50 sound to you? I will give you the 50 if there are zero convictions or plea bargains resulting from the IG investigation. It's a sucker bet because Sessions would not have appointed a prosecutor if he wasn't expecting indictments. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 06:15 PM (+Dllb) Put me down for $50. I'll take that bet. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2018 06:18 PM (jxbfJ) 612
The FBI seized the records regarding the payment to the porn star and then somehow, it'll "mysteriously" be leaked the press so we can learn what the payment was about.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 09, 2018 06:18 PM (+dsLj) 613
PDT lays into sessions and the special council
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 06:18 PM (5y11N) 614
Line has been crossed
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 06:19 PM (5y11N) 615
Saw this morning Attention Hogg was going the U of New Mexico, maybe his Leftist star has risen more.
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:14 PM ~~~~~ Just saw on Twitter that he is skipping college for a year so he can devote his time to political causes and the midterm elections. CNN has the story online. >>>>> And i am so damned angry about this raid on Cohen that i just want to beat someone's brains out. Don't care whose brain, just so long as it's a leftist. Posted by: IrishEi at April 09, 2018 06:19 PM (HiDrR) 616
mueller investigation out of control
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 06:19 PM (5y11N) Posted by: nip at April 09, 2018 06:19 PM (ECLaL) 618
The FBI is a criminal gang at this point and they need to be abolished.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 09, 2018 06:20 PM (EoRCO) 619
how about this Japanese Babe Ruth, Shohei Ohtani?
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (LiyEm) If he wins more than 10 games and hits more than 20 home runs while batting around 260 then he will be one of the best players in baseball. Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 06:20 PM (tcQdP) 620
you seem to misunderstand how the algorithm works. the momon church gave google a call and asked for a list of people that spend all day ordering booze and smokes while playing online poker, eating pork rinds, surfing porn, looking for low priced packages for ladyboy tours in bangkok. people who need saving.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 06:12 PM If I did even one of those things I could see it. Well two. Okay three. To me, it's insane. I pick up the remote and 'kill' the commercial as quickly as possible. What part of 'you can't sell your religion to this dude' do they not understand? At this point I'm ready to buy some flowers, go to the airport, and try to unconvert Mormons. Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 09, 2018 06:20 PM (LOgQ4) 621
"PDT lays into sessions and the special council"
You buying it? Posted by: nip at April 09, 2018 06:19 PM (ECLaL) Since it was at a oval office press thing and on video...yeah Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 06:20 PM (5y11N) 622
>>IG can't even indict. He can recommend... but that's it.
Then it sure is a good thing Sessions appointed a team of prosecutors to work with the IG last year, huh? Of course he didn't have much choice since the IG statute says the IG must report any and all criminal action as soon as he finds it. Do you think Strzok, the Ohrs, Baker, McCabe and others were fired for jaywalking? Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 06:20 PM (/tuJf) 623
for a long time I have thought that a direct threat of imprisonment for Comey is the only way to get Mueller to back off.
Now, screw the threat - arrest him and toss him in general population somewhere and let them rip him to shreds. In the end, Tit for Tat works and nothing less will work with the ruthlessness of the opposition Posted by: buanadha at April 09, 2018 06:20 PM (j9qVD) 624
619 Yeah,awfully small sample size but he has hit way more than I expected.
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 06:20 PM (LiyEm) 625
Nood btw
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 06:22 PM (LiyEm) 626
We have overpasses picked out for these people.
Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at April 09, 2018 06:22 PM (HgMAr) 627
617: Hell yeah, Rosenstein is totally corrupt, a dem shill like his wife. And Sessions is an imbecile
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 06:22 PM (5gaNQ) 628
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 06:15 PM (+Dllb)
Honestly ... why bother ? I don't think anything can go down at this point to shake a True Believers Faith in Sessions, The Legal System, or this vaunted IG Report. The peeps need it. To believe everything will be ok, I guess. And theyneed us to believe with them - maybe if we all believe hard enough, miracles really can come true. Instead of holding back that fifty bucks ... I think I'll use it to hoarde some more supplies. I think we're all gonna' need some. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 06:22 PM (VQcx0) 629
*That's simply not the way real investigations work. You don't hear squat about them until indictments start getting unsealed.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 05:58 PM (+Dllb)* That's not how this works. Posted by: Leroy Jethro Gibbs at April 09, 2018 06:22 PM (c6Sas) 630
>>>>IG can't even indict. He can recommend... but that's it.
Then it sure is a good thing Sessions appointed a team of prosecutors to work with the IG last year, huh? Of course he didn't have much choice since the IG statute says the IG must report any and all criminal action as soon as he finds it. Do you think Strzok, the Ohrs, Baker, McCabe and others were fired for jaywalking? Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 06:20 PM . . .I pointed that out above too. Sessions would not have appointed a Federal Prosecutor if there were not going to be indictments. And comey has been strangely silent lately especially after lynch threw him under the bus yesterday. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 09, 2018 06:22 PM (+Dllb) 631
At some point certain people are gonna have to be whacked.
Posted by: I did not say this. I am not here. at April 09, 2018 06:23 PM (aQdbh) 632
The FBI seized the records regarding the payment to the porn star and then somehow, it'll "mysteriously" be leaked the press so we can learn what the payment was about.
We already know and already don't care. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 06:23 PM (oVJmc) 633
622: The Ohrs have not been fired
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 06:23 PM (5gaNQ) 634
So the SC is in the process of framing a President of the US, just raided the President's lawyer's office, hotel, and home, and we are supposed to believe that Mueller is just desperate?
No fucking way....the coup is full steam now. All the shit from his lawyer WILL be leaked. It matters not what some stupid IG report says, these people are WAY to powerful....they will get away with it all. So what we gonna do about it? Posted by: Pam at April 09, 2018 06:23 PM (5FhpD) 635
On the other hand there is a reason Trump has stayed silent re: Sessions except for that one time several months ago. That I recall anyway. Either those two are playing the long game or Sessions is deep state. It makes no sense that Trump hasn't really said much. Until now I guess. I don't know what to think anymore.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2018 06:24 PM (dUJdY) 636
615 He better not let grass grow under him, his 15 minutes won't last forever
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:24 PM (aC6Sd) 637
My congressman Curt Weldon's house was raided in a very public way, the papers were alerted ahead of time so they could publish front page pics.
Posted by: kallisto at April 09, 2018 06:09 PM (kD8Fh) --- That happened in Wisconsin, when a number of people who were simply financial supporters of Walker's, had no-knock, early morning raids. Apparently they want to make it illegal to back a popular conservative governor in Wisconsin. Posted by: Axeman at April 09, 2018 06:24 PM (vDqXW) 638
YAWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cheese Fart)
Posted by: DeploraBOT at April 09, 2018 06:25 PM (y3aQB) 639
630: I'd love to believe that Sessions is ready to spring into any action, but Rosenstein is in charge at DOJ.
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 06:26 PM (5gaNQ) 640
NOOD
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 06:26 PM (ptqGC) 641
None of the FBI players have been fired, only moved laterally. Even the sexting love birds still get full paychecks
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:26 PM (aC6Sd) 642
Thought we would get to the all 6, maybe 1K
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:26 PM (aC6Sd) 643
Fire everyone upper levels in DOJ and FBI for their Obstruction of Congressional subpoenas. Do that or get ready for more Stormtrooper raids.
Posted by: some dope at April 09, 2018 06:26 PM (6OUNd) 644
641: Precisely. A few cosmetic "demotions"
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 06:27 PM (5gaNQ) 645
Line has been crossed mueller investigation out of control On the same day war drums begin pounding. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2018 06:27 PM (IqV8l) 646
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 06:26 PM (aC6Sd)
+++++++++++ Good God ! for the Last Fucking Time ! they are still employed because IF they werte fired Jon Huber Could NOT ask them anything Posted by: DeploraBOT at April 09, 2018 06:30 PM (y3aQB) 647
Reason's Katherine Mangu-Ward: The Leftwing Media's Idea of a Tolerable Conservative is Me, and I'm Not a Conservative
++++++++++++ Because that is more important Posted by: DeploraBOT at April 09, 2018 06:31 PM (y3aQB) 648
620 you seem to misunderstand how the algorithm works. the momon church gave google a call and asked for a list of people that spend all day ordering booze and smokes while playing online poker, eating pork rinds, surfing porn, looking for low priced packages for ladyboy tours in bangkok. people who need saving.
== That explains why the Mormons keep knocking on my door! I thought it was my personality. Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2018 06:32 PM (UsCnO) 649
And...Jeff Sessions' brother in law is still here defending the back stabbing worm.
Posted by: some dope at April 09, 2018 06:32 PM (6OUNd) 650
Posted by: some dope at April 09, 2018 06:32 PM (6OUNd)
---------- Well at least truth in advertising Posted by: DeploraBOT at April 09, 2018 06:35 PM (y3aQB) 651
634 So the SC is in the process of framing a President of the US, just raided the President's lawyer's office, hotel, and home, and we are supposed to believe that Mueller is just desperate?
No fucking way....the coup is full steam now. All the shit from his lawyer WILL be leaked. It matters not what some stupid IG report says, these people are WAY to powerful....they will get away with it all. So what we gonna do about it? Posted by: Pam at April 09, 2018 06:23 PM (5FhpD) See: Athens, Tennessee uprising, 1946. The FBI is so corrupt they simply don't care any more about hiding it. A lot like Venezuela the last few years, they aren't hiding their disdain for law abiding citizens, either. Otherwise, eventually every Trump supporter will be Soylent Green. Shit is getting Real. Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2018 06:37 PM (UsCnO) 652
87 Seriously, Are they aware that Pence is ten times more Conservative as Trump? Or are they actually thinking Hillary will be put in? Madness...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM It does not matter if VP Mike Pence is more conservative than President Trump. What matters is whether or not Mike Pence --- or any other Republican in office right now who would succeed President Trump --- understands the current situation in America like President Trump does and has the balls and the will to stand up to the Left. Is Mike Pence willing to stand up every single part of the United States government --- including those in the Republican Party, FBI, DOJ, CIA --- the media, schools, colleges, universities, "celebrities", Hollywood and everyone else under the sun attacking, smearing, lying, throwing hateful vile and vitriol at him and everyone in his family and inner circle? Is Mike Pence willing to take all that AND still push forward with a conservative agenda in the face of seemingly everyone in the country working to take him down? Does Mike Pence have anything in his history showing he has the will to stand up to the unending and unrelenting vile and hate and lawlessness of the Left? Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 09, 2018 06:39 PM (7A4qQ) 653
now?
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 09, 2018 06:40 PM (Dkm+q) 654
Maybe there should be a march on the FBI.
Imagine a million American voters on the lawn of the FBI flying flags, revving Harleys and telling them Hands Off Our Elected President. Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 06:46 PM (FLifI) 655
This is an act of desperation/Hail Mary using Stormy Daniels as pretext to find something, anything that otherwise would have been protected by attorney/client privilege. ScoggDogg above set out DOJ guidelines to encroach on such protected material. This doesn't even come close so....
This is the first shot of the hot civil war. I don't know whether it was Trump's decision not to help Deep State patrons recoup their Clinton Global Initiative bribes, or the pending IG report, but something forced their hand. Welcome to Hungary 1956, folks. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 09, 2018 06:53 PM (DcIXd) Posted by: hepcat at April 09, 2018 07:01 PM (5b+Sr) 657
There goes the Fourth Amendment (AGAIN); all kinds of precedent protecting the Chief Executive against nuisance persecutions, And attorney-client privilege.
This is a Constitutional crisis. Even Geraldo Rivera is saying today that President Trump needs to hire killer lawyers, STAT, who are the best knife fighters in the biz, because this is a fight to the death. Posted by: Beverly at April 09, 2018 07:01 PM (ex0DI) 658
Didn't Obama make blackmail payments to the Taliban, Iran, ISSIS?
Posted by: Detroit Breakdown at April 09, 2018 07:03 PM (AzZAE) 659
Also -- the Powers That Be have planned all along to go after the President through his business interests: they know there's no way he's been able to be a 100% choir boy working in the slime of NYC. In the building trade, you have to deal with the Mafia; the construction unions (but I repeat myself); the criminal politicians, etc., etc.
This is the Big Ugly, folks. And the Dickless Wonder, Jeff Sessionzzzz, just rolls on his back and lets it happen. Unfuckingbelievable. Posted by: Beverly at April 09, 2018 07:04 PM (ex0DI) 660
So at what point do we all take a few days off of work and just go stand outside Mueller's office? This crap is getting serious - I think we should do it.
Posted by: Isolden at April 09, 2018 07:09 PM (z0De4) 661
"In order to obtain a search warrant, prosecutors must convince a federal judge that agents are likely to discover evidence of criminal activity."
No. All they need is Democrat judge. Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 09, 2018 07:09 PM (7lKeD) 662
If this summer turns to civil unrest and the police have to start shooting hippies, I hope they start with David Crosby.
Posted by: I'll take mine with extra gluten, please at April 09, 2018 07:22 PM (U4cJH) 663
If Sessions is still in his job by the end of the week then Trump wont be in his job by the time of this fall's election.
Posted by: Redgrains at April 09, 2018 07:24 PM (WPxnj) 664
We are getting used to the FBI using gestapo methods. We had better wake up and stop this crap.
Posted by: Rich614 at April 09, 2018 07:36 PM (Fn13j) Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 09, 2018 07:49 PM (eQBa2) 666
It's hard for me to believe that Mueller would make a criminal referral based only on an admitted liar and fame-chaser's vague word, and I can't believe the FBI would dare to seek a warrant based only on that, and I can't believe a judge would issue a warrant based only on that.
They invented "evidence" for the last warrant. This is desperation. They know what's coming and want Trump to fire Mueller. I think he should when he's ready. Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 09, 2018 08:00 PM (Ndje9) 667
Yeah-Rosenstein wrote the letter justifying Comey's firing--then used Comey's firing as justification for a Special Counsel.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 09, 2018 08:06 PM (Ndje9) 668
Time for a war.
Posted by: pawn at April 09, 2018 08:12 PM (hFQrl) Posted by: pawn at April 09, 2018 08:16 PM (hFQrl) 670
654: I imagine a million ARMED Americans doing that would make an impression. Flag waving, not so much.
Posted by: Mr Black at April 09, 2018 08:32 PM (4Szfi) 671
There are some lessons in these FBI raids. 1. Shred all paper, 2. Scan and encrypt all of your data. 3. Have multiple backups stored securely offsite.
Posted by: Jolo at April 09, 2018 08:48 PM (y09j5) 672
This is the second conservative President the FBI has gone after.
Deep Throat gave info that led Nixon to resign for the good of the country. The #2 guy in the FBI, Federal Bureau of Investigation Associate Director Mark Felt, was Deep Throat. I give you the Praetorian Guards of America, the corrupt FBI. Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 09, 2018 08:53 PM (hyuyC) 673
CNN - January 20, 2025 - ex-senator Maxine Waters ( D - Nutcase) announced today that special prosecutor Mueller had authorized a raid on the garden shed at Mar-A-Lago by Space Fairies. The property was found vacant due to the inauguration of President Pence in Washington, DC.
Posted by: Trainer at April 09, 2018 10:29 PM (7EbAY) 674
If there were ever a definitive argument that Mueller had no case for Russian collusion, we're watching it right now.
Posted by: Brisco_County_Sr at April 09, 2018 10:50 PM (k6NDF) 675
You can make the argument that a highly "public" figure, such as the President, our ultimate civil servant, has fewer civil rights than an ordinary citizen. This is true, to an extent, yes.
But you cannot argue that such a public figure has no basic right to attorney-client privilege. This raid is clearly a gross violation of Trump's civil rights, and Mueller should go to prison for this. Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, who was raped by Emily Lindin! at April 10, 2018 12:11 AM (wSC8T) 676
Yeah, well, this IG report has been "two weeks" away from release for several months now.
Posted by: Fortunato at April 10, 2018 12:20 AM (h1qtI) 677
Well, this will be one those either end of the spectrum things...either there is something Cohen did that is clearly illegal or this was just outright thuggery. Left better hope for the former. If the latter, then the game is on.
Posted by: Saml Adams at April 10, 2018 06:50 AM (V7awQ) 678
I had to chuckle when I heard Dershowitz say that Trump should now have his lawyers go to a judge and get all the stuff that they took and all other paperwork hold on too and decide what is prudent and what is not.
Our justice system is a joke. Tomorrow's headline would simply be "Judge's office and home raided by the FBI (The finest people to ever grace the planet) and removed everything that they could get their hands on. Posted by: Drider at April 10, 2018 07:22 AM (HdKKm) Processing 0.11, elapsed 0.1284 seconds. |
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