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Bomber Self-Identified as a Conservative
It's just news and I need a post -- I'm not baiting anyone. The media is going to read a lot into this while ignoring the fact that the country's death rows are stocked with Democrats.
This isn't a motive, but expect some breathless reporting from Jake Clapper. Though he identified as conservative, he also had civil libertarian leanings regarding sex-offender registries:On the blog, Conditt described himself as a conservative. He wrote that he was against gay marriage and abortion and in favor of the death penalty. He also wrote that he supported doing away with the sex offender registration system. "So you have a guy who committed a crime. Will putting him on a (sex offender) list make it better? wouldn’t this only make people shun him, keep him from getting a job, and making friends? Just for a crime that he may have committed over 15 years ago as a adolescent? On a side note, one fifth of all rapes are committed by a juvenile," Conditt wrote.Here are pictures of the dead bomber at the FedEx store, wearing gloves on a hot day (!) and an absurd daffodil-yellow clown wig to hide his brown hair. Say, didn't someone say the shots would show him in light disguise with a hat?
#AustinBombings suspect (24 y/o male) caught on CCTV at the fedex store. Suspect killed himself w explosive device when confronted by #Austin #SWAT. pic.twitter.com/1a4vDgYwdS
— C-T Watch, Inc. (@CTWatchInc) March 21, 2018
While the suspect who took his own life has been only identified thus far as a 24-year-old white man, the former ATF agent in charge had already predicted that the suspect was: -- 20 to 30 years oldI don't know about "educated." He went to community college but did not graduate. So he was high school educated with some credits in community college. I don't know if that makes him "educated;" seems "average education" would be more accurate. They probably got that from the idea that he thinks he's smarter than people. Which is something you might guess about the perp in this kind of crime, that he's playing games with the police and all. But that doesn't prove education; it proves arrogance, and maybe even more insecurity underlying that arrogance. I'd say that a more defensible profile would say that he thought of himself as educated, despite not having more than average education, a trait he shares with most liberals. The "local resident" call was obvious. The call that he was 20-30 -- not in his 20s or 30s, but 20 to 30 --is pretty darned good. I wonder why they'd guess him at that young age. One possibility is that the batteries he used in his bombs were "exotic." Maybe they're batteries people use in some kind of tech associated with younger people. Maybe they batteries are only advertised in, say, video gamer magazines, which would mostly skew younger.
-- Educated
-- Mostly likely a local resident
Comments
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Clown wig on.
Posted by: AliasQuintandJessel at March 21, 2018 12:55 PM (t2v3w)
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1st
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 21, 2018 12:55 PM (FZYNt)
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shit
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 21, 2018 12:56 PM (FZYNt)
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Hey, read content.
Posted by: RI Red - proud member, CRNSA at March 21, 2018 12:56 PM (osYf1)
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Yeah, the gloves aren't a red flag at all...
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 12:56 PM (ia5FY)
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So, sex offender?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 12:56 PM (ptqGC)
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Did he use cash or credit card?
Posted by: dantesed at March 21, 2018 12:57 PM (88xKn)
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..."Hi! I'd like to ship this without getting my fingerprints on it."
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 12:57 PM (ia5FY)
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People can define themselves any way they want.
Paul Ryan calls himself a Conservative, and he's anything but.
But we know the Donks, MSM and the usual GOP cucks are right now jizzing themselves over this "revelation."
Paul Ryan calls himself a Conservative, and he's anything but.
But we know the Donks, MSM and the usual GOP cucks are right now jizzing themselves over this "revelation."
Posted by: Kreplach at March 21, 2018 12:57 PM (UfMVm)
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finally, someone to take the heat off me
Posted by: Zombie Timothy McVeigh at March 21, 2018 12:57 PM (FZYNt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 21, 2018 12:57 PM (VM6ev)
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An allergy to cardboard
Posted by: Bruce at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (8ikIW)
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They used to say that Lillian Carter had two of the biggest Boobs, except Billy is dead now going on 30 years.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (e8kgV)
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A shame he won't get to go on to teach at the University of Illinois and mentor future presidents, unlike other young white male bombers.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (O7MnT)
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On the blog, Conditt described himself as a conservative. He wrote that
he was against gay marriage and abortion and in favor of the death
penalty.
It is evident that the idiot asshole had no idea what a conservative is. But neither did Conditt have any knowledge of reality.
he was against gay marriage and abortion and in favor of the death
penalty.
It is evident that the idiot asshole had no idea what a conservative is. But neither did Conditt have any knowledge of reality.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (mpXpK)
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Not quite a criminal genius...
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (LiyEm)
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When are they going to ban assault bombs?
Posted by: EGGO at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (D4xED)
18
Probably a "life long Republican" too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (ptqGC)
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I've been waiting to hear what his motive was supposed to be. Did he leave any kind of manifesto?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (ClOmq)
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People like this shouldn't be given attention. It only breeds more. Unmarked grave, and that's it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (n+6mJ)
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Conservative like David Brooks?
Posted by: BignJames at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (0+nbW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (ptqGC)
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Great. We're going to get beaten over the head with this 24/7 for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (NWiLs)
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As I ansd others said on the last thread, he is a nut case and THAT is his defining characteristic
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (SjImc)
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They don't link to this blog, or even tell you where it was.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (oVJmc)
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Wow.
He actually wrote addresses and stood there while someone filled out the forms?
He was begging to get caught.
He actually wrote addresses and stood there while someone filled out the forms?
He was begging to get caught.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (ia5FY)
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I'm sure he will be afforded the same leniency as the Dem supporter that shot ups a baseball field
/sarc
/sarc
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (FZYNt)
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Yep he blew his chances at being the next Ayers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (flYWz)
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the blog was from 2012
be curious about more recent social media
be curious about more recent social media
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (hMwEB)
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Google a guy named Steve Kangas.
He tried to kill Richard Mellon Scaife, blew his brains out in his bathroom dahntahn Pittsburgh.
No media coverage, and this was back when that idiot Whorealdo was all over Scaife calling him evil and stuff.
Google a guy named Steve Kangas.
He tried to kill Richard Mellon Scaife, blew his brains out in his bathroom dahntahn Pittsburgh.
No media coverage, and this was back when that idiot Whorealdo was all over Scaife calling him evil and stuff.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz IVANOVICH at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (AASEZ)
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Probably a "life long Republican" too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (ptqGC)
Him and Bill Kristol.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (ptqGC)
Him and Bill Kristol.
Posted by: BignJames at March 21, 2018 01:00 PM (0+nbW)
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People like this shouldn't be given attention. It only breeds more. Unmarked grave, and that's it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (n+6mJ)
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Agree.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 21, 2018 12:58 PM (n+6mJ)
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Agree.
Posted by: grammie winger -saved by grace, at March 21, 2018 01:00 PM (lwiT4)
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None of this makes any sense at all.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:00 PM (roQNm)
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odds were always in favor of ONE of these killers being a conservative eventually. but yeah, I'm going to need more than a message board post to confirm this belief.
Posted by: Todler at March 21, 2018 01:00 PM (8D42x)
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He also said he was worth 1 Million $ Had 10 Kids & was a widowqer
Posted by: DeporaBOT at March 21, 2018 01:00 PM (y3aQB)
36
from the last thread
If you missed it the Co-Creator of Father Ted, that had Father Ted in a Hitler mustache and doing the Salute was offended by the pug that does the Hitler Salute. Comedy is Dead
If you missed it the Co-Creator of Father Ted, that had Father Ted in a Hitler mustache and doing the Salute was offended by the pug that does the Hitler Salute. Comedy is Dead
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 21, 2018 01:00 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (FZYNt)
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The other thing that gets me is all this talk about expert bomb making and sophistication. 30 seconds on google and you can find plans for this stuff. It's not rocket science. Half of me believes the only reason the cops are saying it is, is to deter people from looking it up and finding how easy it is.
Posted by: EGGO at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (D4xED)
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What next s mention of the 3 on trial for mosque bombing and abortion clinic bombing?
Posted by: Yup at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (reD0o)
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That was you?
Posted by: Yup at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (reD0o)
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That was you?
Posted by: grammie winger -saved by grace, at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (lwiT4)
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Considering we still have no real idea or motive from the Mandalay Bay mass murderer, I will say that I will not believe a friggin' thing that Big Law Enforcement tells me I should.
Thanks, Comey, Mueller, Holder for that.
Considering we still have no real idea or motive from the Mandalay Bay mass murderer, I will say that I will not believe a friggin' thing that Big Law Enforcement tells me I should.
Thanks, Comey, Mueller, Holder for that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (VM6ev)
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He was looking up new addresses to bomb?
I guess he needed a hobby and random bombing was it.
Where exactly does that fall on the socio-political spectrum?
I guess he needed a hobby and random bombing was it.
Where exactly does that fall on the socio-political spectrum?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Use Misery Marinade for Your Next BBQ! at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (oVJmc)
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WE NEED COMMON SENSE SELF IDENTIFYING CONSERVATIVE CONTROLS!!!
Posted by: Lefty Lefterson, Left Wing Wet Dreamer at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (O5Q3r)
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24 years old, shaped like a potato and bat-shit crazy.
Posted by: Archer at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (gbWkA)
45
I think the part about being against the sex offender registry is a "tell."
Posted by: blaster at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (jHrzU)
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need more evidence on whether he was really "conservative". At 24 few know much, and if they do they do not turn into bombers. Only the left has pushed the antifa violence.
A counter-reaction from a "conservative? well maybe ... pretty dumb, obviously. But we need a broader profile. A good liberal willing to sacrifice for the left would pretend to be conservative I suppose. Let's see what his friends say, if he had any.
A counter-reaction from a "conservative? well maybe ... pretty dumb, obviously. But we need a broader profile. A good liberal willing to sacrifice for the left would pretend to be conservative I suppose. Let's see what his friends say, if he had any.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (bT8Z4)
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2008 Barry Obama - Gay marriage is icky!
2012 Barry Obama - Gay marriage is fabulous!
Four years.
How long ago did this 24 year old write this stuff?
2012 Barry Obama - Gay marriage is fabulous!
Four years.
How long ago did this 24 year old write this stuff?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (JTMqu)
48
Don't quote the shitbag please.
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (LiyEm)
49
None of this makes any sense at all.[/i/]
In the immortal words of Barney Fife re: Ernest T. Bass--"He's a nut."
In the immortal words of Barney Fife re: Ernest T. Bass--"He's a nut."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (B+qrE)
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Has CNN finished composing the manifesto yet? What's the holdup?
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (e1mEI)
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well, surely not all conservatives are like that?
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (DQC26)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (B+qrE)
53
Considering we still have no real idea or motive
from the Mandalay Bay mass murderer, I will say that I will not believe a
friggin' thing that Big Law Enforcement tells me I should.
Thanks, Comey, Mueller, Holder for that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (VM6ev)
A million times this.
from the Mandalay Bay mass murderer, I will say that I will not believe a
friggin' thing that Big Law Enforcement tells me I should.
Thanks, Comey, Mueller, Holder for that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (VM6ev)
A million times this.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (ptqGC)
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They used to say that Lillian Carter had two of the biggest Boobs, except Billy is dead now going on 30 years.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD
Billy was cool. He wanted to just drink beer and be a redneck.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD
Billy was cool. He wanted to just drink beer and be a redneck.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (l/Pix)
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The mosque bombers have all been Muslims.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (NkSSa)
Posted by: concrete girl at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (N0sw0)
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Sorry steevy.
Posted by: grammie winger -saved by grace, at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (lwiT4)
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he also had civil libertarian leanings regarding sex-offender registries
Maybe he got tagged for public urination himself?
I always thought it a little far-fetched to stick someone on the sex-offender registry for something that pretty close to 100% of males have done, yet not gotten caught at.
he also had civil libertarian leanings regarding sex-offender registries
Maybe he got tagged for public urination himself?
I always thought it a little far-fetched to stick someone on the sex-offender registry for something that pretty close to 100% of males have done, yet not gotten caught at.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (LOgQ4)
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It is evident that the idiot asshole had no idea what a conservative is.
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No, but the MSM will make sure every damn one of their viewers understands that THIS is what conservatism IS.
Dammit. Just fucking wonderful.
All the actual horrors actually attached to the left's belief system are excused away, lied about, etc. Now WE have to deal with this bullshit.
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No, but the MSM will make sure every damn one of their viewers understands that THIS is what conservatism IS.
Dammit. Just fucking wonderful.
All the actual horrors actually attached to the left's belief system are excused away, lied about, etc. Now WE have to deal with this bullshit.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (vg8iE)
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The media will play the shit out of the "conservative mad bomber" angle
Posted by: TJ at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (JTJm9)
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We're gonna have a field day with this!
Posted by: Clown Nose Network at March 21, 2018 01:02 PM (vtcmf)
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (LiyEm)
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49 Don't quote the shitbag please.
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (LiyEm)
Agreed. Telling him to go horsefuck is fine though.
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (LiyEm)
Agreed. Telling him to go horsefuck is fine though.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (NWiLs)
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How old were his social media accounts? How far back does his "conservative" leanings go?
I'm betting this was just a ruse to get the focus back on the evil conservatives and the gun toting, bible thumping neanderthals of America.
I'm betting this was just a ruse to get the focus back on the evil conservatives and the gun toting, bible thumping neanderthals of America.
Posted by: Sponge at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (xttKs)
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David Hogg is flying to Austin right now.
Posted by: TJ at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (JTJm9)
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Yep he blew his chances at being the next Ayers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (flYWz)
His worked.
(cue Monty Burns comparing himself to Oskar Schindler)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (flYWz)
His worked.
(cue Monty Burns comparing himself to Oskar Schindler)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Use Misery Marinade for Your Next BBQ! at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (hLRSq)
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I think the part about being against the sex offender registry is a "tell."
Posted by: blaster at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (jHrzU)
Yep. That's one of the first things I noticed. He was very "concerned."
Posted by: blaster at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (jHrzU)
Yep. That's one of the first things I noticed. He was very "concerned."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jerry at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (ia5FY)
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Guy wasn't smaht. He apparently bought all the components at one store, which they were able to find the receipt to, and he did suspicious searches from his home computer.
Spread the purchases out and use the library and he'd still be out there.
Spread the purchases out and use the library and he'd still be out there.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (4ErVI)
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HOW MANY MORE OF THESE RIGHT WING MANIACS ARE OUT THERE!!!!!
Posted by: This...is CNN at March 21, 2018 01:04 PM (O5Q3r)
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Thing is, there is no consistent conservative philosophy, other than adhering to traditional values and norms. Take tariffs. Our founders thought they were a useful tool, both to fund our government as well as to protect domestic industries. Many people who call themselves conservatives today claim that protectionism is not conservative.
It all depends on which values you are focusing on (and during which period of time) when you look to tradition.
But, very few people would consider blowing up random, non-combative, fellow citizens with package bombs to be a traditional value.
It all depends on which values you are focusing on (and during which period of time) when you look to tradition.
But, very few people would consider blowing up random, non-combative, fellow citizens with package bombs to be a traditional value.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 01:04 PM (pvjTE)
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46 I think the part about being against the sex offender registry is a "tell."
Posted by: blaster at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (jHrzU)
I thought that too.
"Just for a crime that he may have committed over 15 years ago as a adolescent?"
Hmmmm. (Tents fingers thoughtfully.)
Posted by: blaster at March 21, 2018 01:01 PM (jHrzU)
I thought that too.
"Just for a crime that he may have committed over 15 years ago as a adolescent?"
Hmmmm. (Tents fingers thoughtfully.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:04 PM (inyex)
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70 Guy wasn't smaht. He apparently bought all the components at one store, which they were able to find the receipt to, and he did suspicious searches from his home computer.
Spread the purchases out and use the library and he'd still be out there.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (4ErVI)
Those are the wrong matches.
Spread the purchases out and use the library and he'd still be out there.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:03 PM (4ErVI)
Those are the wrong matches.
Posted by: Walter White at March 21, 2018 01:04 PM (NWiLs)
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Actually, the conservative reaction to a "conservative" terrorist is the same as the conservative reaction to a leftist terrorist: death is too good for him.
The monster's rationalizations don't matter; their acts do.
Only the left makes heroes from monsters.
The monster's rationalizations don't matter; their acts do.
Only the left makes heroes from monsters.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (NkSSa)
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>>Spread the purchases out and use the library and he'd still be out there.
Ship using dropoffs and stolen Fed Ex Account #s.
Ship using dropoffs and stolen Fed Ex Account #s.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (ia5FY)
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I don't know this guys specific motivation for the bombing, but for the sake of argument let's pretend it's racial. The CONSTANT agitation of the media and the Democrats on racial issues 24/7 is going to stoke the fires of the fringe lunatics. I actually think this is exactly what they want, just look at the phony Confederate statue scandal. I guarantee you that girl getting run over was EXACTLY what they were aiming for.
I don't know this guys specific motivation for the bombing, but for the sake of argument let's pretend it's racial. The CONSTANT agitation of the media and the Democrats on racial issues 24/7 is going to stoke the fires of the fringe lunatics. I actually think this is exactly what they want, just look at the phony Confederate statue scandal. I guarantee you that girl getting run over was EXACTLY what they were aiming for.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (lKmt3)
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I wonder, when a country balkanizes itself as America is doing, thanks to the democrats using 3rd world welfare seeks as an invasion of new voters, is the resulting violence that, you know..."see, liberals are like this" and "conservatives are like that..." ahhhh...maybe the future is bloody rag waving lunacy on both sides.
But the truth is, as Ace said, the prisons are full of would be democrat voters. And we crazy conservatives need to hold on to our gun because of moderate democrats like James hodgekinsonstein and amy bishops and flord corkins and so on
But the truth is, as Ace said, the prisons are full of would be democrat voters. And we crazy conservatives need to hold on to our gun because of moderate democrats like James hodgekinsonstein and amy bishops and flord corkins and so on
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (DQC26)
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As Biden and Kerry went soft on China ther sons made nuclear and military business deals with the Chinese government
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/291868/
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/291868/
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (LiyEm)
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Even considering a conservative in Austin might be very pro-gay bathroom and sex offenders, until I see something more recent I'm sticking with antifa.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (JTMqu)
80
So, I guess he's on a sex offender registry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (ptqGC)
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In 2012 he espoused "conservative" things... He was home schooled in a Christian household... Now it's 2018 and he has spent time out of the home and in a community college... Could his "views" have changed?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Chris M at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (eAZVt)
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I called it yesterday afternoon that he'd be caught inside of 24 hours if he went into a building to drop off his packages of death.
*buffs nails on shirt...*
*buffs nails on shirt...*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (GdWl+)
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HOW MANY MORE OF THESE RIGHT WING MANIACS ARE OUT THERE!!!!!
Posted by: This...is CNN
behind every blade of grass...
Posted by: This...is CNN
behind every blade of grass...
Posted by: Todler at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (8D42x)
85
Maybe the bomber is a Bill Kristol conservative. Kristol sounds like he's about three Trump tweets away from going postal.
Posted by: rickl at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (xjiRE)
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Actually, the conservative reaction to a "conservative" terrorist is the same as the conservative reaction to a leftist terrorist: death is too good for him.
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that's cuck talk, the only response is "not all conservatives are like that."
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that's cuck talk, the only response is "not all conservatives are like that."
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (DQC26)
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I blame the National Bomb Association.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (IqV8l)
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Well, by definition if you are murdering people you are not a conservative. I think thrill bomber is the motive, but we may never know. Doesn't really matter, he's dead, we are better off.
Well, by definition if you are murdering people you are not a conservative. I think thrill bomber is the motive, but we may never know. Doesn't really matter, he's dead, we are better off.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (e11dj)
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I never understood the deduction that how a person votes equals motive.
Some people are just nuts. and happen to vote one way or another.
I get it if someone is, say, pro abortion and starts blowing up churches because they are virulently pro abortion. I could further understand how one might say- well that's a sacred cow of Democrats, so - yeah.
But that someone took action is circumstantial to each case. You would have to conclude they are nuts to begin with, perhaps someone or something they associated with stepped on that "nut" button, and they sprang into action.
Some people are just nuts. and happen to vote one way or another.
I get it if someone is, say, pro abortion and starts blowing up churches because they are virulently pro abortion. I could further understand how one might say- well that's a sacred cow of Democrats, so - yeah.
But that someone took action is circumstantial to each case. You would have to conclude they are nuts to begin with, perhaps someone or something they associated with stepped on that "nut" button, and they sprang into action.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:06 PM (VpIIl)
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@41
The reason you aren't hearing anything about the "investigation" is that it does not fit the narrative, LE new all about the guy and did nothing or he was a CIA/FBI/DEEP STATE asset that went rogue.
We have guy who did very traceable things and perpetrated an act in probably one of the most video taped environments on the planet, a LAS Vegas Casino.
There are more CCTV Cameras per square foot there than down town London's Ring of Steel.
So they have it all and know what's what but it's inconveneient so don't expect a report any time soon.
The reason you aren't hearing anything about the "investigation" is that it does not fit the narrative, LE new all about the guy and did nothing or he was a CIA/FBI/DEEP STATE asset that went rogue.
We have guy who did very traceable things and perpetrated an act in probably one of the most video taped environments on the planet, a LAS Vegas Casino.
There are more CCTV Cameras per square foot there than down town London's Ring of Steel.
So they have it all and know what's what but it's inconveneient so don't expect a report any time soon.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (UfMVm)
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As Biden and Kerry went soft on China ther sons made nuclear and military business deals with the Chinese government
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/291868/
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (LiyEm)
The Turtle has dirty hands re China as well.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/291868/
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (LiyEm)
The Turtle has dirty hands re China as well.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (ptqGC)
93
yes. we are monsters. sorryboutit
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (DQC26)
94
Just glad this piece of work is deader than a doorknob. Thus always to those who would visit violence upon the innocents of our society, no matter what the cause.
Posted by: Average Guy at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (KqRop)
95
86 Maybe the bomber is a Bill Kristol conservative. Kristol sounds like he's about three Trump tweets away from going postal.
Posted by: rickl
if Harry Reid can be a child molester then Bill Kristol can be a bomber
Posted by: rickl
if Harry Reid can be a child molester then Bill Kristol can be a bomber
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (FZYNt)
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the former ATF agent in charge had already predicted that the suspect was:
-- 20 to 30 years old
-- Educated
-- Mostly likely a local resident
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Is there a name for spiking the football after you make some sort of vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out right?
-- 20 to 30 years old
-- Educated
-- Mostly likely a local resident
---
Is there a name for spiking the football after you make some sort of vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (JTMqu)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:08 PM (ia5FY)
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As usual...
...The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.
We need to form a new party, I'm partial to The Great American Party or GAP for short.
What's going on is intolerable, for all intents and purposes the GOP is an illigitamate political party in all ways that that entails.
...The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.
We need to form a new party, I'm partial to The Great American Party or GAP for short.
What's going on is intolerable, for all intents and purposes the GOP is an illigitamate political party in all ways that that entails.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 21, 2018 01:08 PM (UfMVm)
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96 86 Maybe the bomber is a Bill Kristol conservative. Kristol sounds like he's about three Trump tweets away from going postal.
He was upset about McCabe getting fired.
He was upset about McCabe getting fired.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:08 PM (NWiLs)
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Gosh, I hope I never do anything to make the papers. I'd be the poster child for:
White
Anglo Saxon
Protestant
Male
Conservative
Veteran
2d Amendment
Angry
Trump voter
Etc.
Did I miss anything?
Oh, yeah. Ace of Spades commenter.
White
Anglo Saxon
Protestant
Male
Conservative
Veteran
2d Amendment
Angry
Trump voter
Etc.
Did I miss anything?
Oh, yeah. Ace of Spades commenter.
Posted by: RI Red - proud member, CRNSA at March 21, 2018 01:08 PM (osYf1)
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Motive? Unknown at this point. Rest assured that The right and conservatives will have this nutbag psycho tied to us just like Mcveigh. The reality is that they where both insane psycho murderous assholes that were barely human. I wonder if this guy left any writings behind. I hope he enjoys eternity in hell. He sent himself there. (we can hope that he gets his just reward)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at March 21, 2018 01:08 PM (0OmEj)
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But, very few people would consider blowing up
random, non-combative, fellow citizens with package bombs to be a
traditional value.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 01:04 PM (pvjTE)
=================
A late graduate student in Sterling Hall, UW-Madison wishes more people thought like you. Thanks for nothing, Ayers and Dohrn.
random, non-combative, fellow citizens with package bombs to be a
traditional value.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 01:04 PM (pvjTE)
=================
A late graduate student in Sterling Hall, UW-Madison wishes more people thought like you. Thanks for nothing, Ayers and Dohrn.
Posted by: grammie winger -saved by grace, at March 21, 2018 01:08 PM (lwiT4)
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I heard he was radicalized by trump saying doody. While not all conservatives are like that we must also understand that conservatism is a philosophy of peace and any one who is violent is not a real conservative. Also, control your own fucking murder monsters, you blind liberal doofs.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:08 PM (DQC26)
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need more evidence on whether he was really "conservative". At 24 few know much, and if they do they do not turn into bombers. Only the left has pushed the antifa violence.
A counter-reaction from a "conservative? well maybe ... pretty dumb, obviously. But we need a broader profile. A good liberal willing to sacrifice for the left would pretend to be conservative I suppose. Let's see what his friends say, if he had any.
Posted by: illiniwek
How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
A counter-reaction from a "conservative? well maybe ... pretty dumb, obviously. But we need a broader profile. A good liberal willing to sacrifice for the left would pretend to be conservative I suppose. Let's see what his friends say, if he had any.
Posted by: illiniwek
How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
106
Motive? Unknown at this point. Rest assured that The right and conservatives will have this nutbag psycho tied to us just like McVeigh
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The MSM will harp endlessly on the two blacks who were killed, ignoring the other incidents.
This couldn't be more ready made for their spinning than if they had organized it themselves.
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The MSM will harp endlessly on the two blacks who were killed, ignoring the other incidents.
This couldn't be more ready made for their spinning than if they had organized it themselves.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (vg8iE)
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>>>the blog was from 2012
be curious about more recent social media
apparently he has a very light social media footprint. This is the first story that's come out with any social media background on him.
And it seems he only did this much as part of his course at the community college.
My goodness-- they're teaching *blogging* at college now. Wonderful.
be curious about more recent social media
apparently he has a very light social media footprint. This is the first story that's come out with any social media background on him.
And it seems he only did this much as part of his course at the community college.
My goodness-- they're teaching *blogging* at college now. Wonderful.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (ptqGC)
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yeah...a bit rich. all this "he was right winger" so? control your own moderate democrat monsters, liberals.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (DQC26)
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HOW MANY MORE OF THESE RIGHT WING MANIACS ARE OUT THERE!!!!!
Posted by: This...is CNN
Until you know for sure I'd advise being real quiet, don't antagonize or startle them. They're like deer - very skittish - but deer armed with very, very lethal Rhodesian fighting sticks.
Posted by: This...is CNN
Until you know for sure I'd advise being real quiet, don't antagonize or startle them. They're like deer - very skittish - but deer armed with very, very lethal Rhodesian fighting sticks.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Use Misery Marinade for Your Next BBQ! at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (hLRSq)
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in terms of civil rights, I actually agree with his views about the sex offender registry - BUT - I have also decided that saying anything along those lines elicits so much scorn, and so many raised eyebrows from anyone you say it to, that it's better for me just to self censor and never say anything about it at all (except for this instance) since I certainly do not have any personal stake in that fight.
And I do think it is regrettable that now there are so many issues and topics where intelligent people know that the best thing is just to keep quiet and never engage in any discussion on them, because the penalty for espousing a non-mainstream attitude is so high. America really did not used to be like that, but it is now.
And I do think it is regrettable that now there are so many issues and topics where intelligent people know that the best thing is just to keep quiet and never engage in any discussion on them, because the penalty for espousing a non-mainstream attitude is so high. America really did not used to be like that, but it is now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (k1TUh)
112
It does not surprise me that the bomber said he was conservative not because oh noes conservatives are horrible, well, I mean, I'm horrible but for many reasons apart from my politics, but due to sheer random chance.
At some point one of these nutters would be on "my" team.
We still don't know why he went all 'splodey but if he did so for some supposedly conservative reasons, well, we're just going to have to take the battering.
This is not me being a better person because, hahahaha, no. This is me reserving the right to go after the Left the next time someone who claims he is a progressive does something awful.
At some point one of these nutters would be on "my" team.
We still don't know why he went all 'splodey but if he did so for some supposedly conservative reasons, well, we're just going to have to take the battering.
This is not me being a better person because, hahahaha, no. This is me reserving the right to go after the Left the next time someone who claims he is a progressive does something awful.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (mf5HN)
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think the part about being against the sex offender registry is a "tell."
+++
Honestly I don't. There's plenty to criticize about the lists. I'd never say get rid of them entirely though.
If I had to guess, I'd put the guy as more a 4chan /pol/lock than a mainstream conservative.
+++
Honestly I don't. There's plenty to criticize about the lists. I'd never say get rid of them entirely though.
If I had to guess, I'd put the guy as more a 4chan /pol/lock than a mainstream conservative.
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (4xVJP)
114
How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
Those two don't necessarily go hand in hand. My support for the death penalty has become less entrenched over time because of repeated incidents of police, prosecutor, and judicial corruption, and I do have a problem with the over-inclusive nature of the sex offender registry.
You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
Those two don't necessarily go hand in hand. My support for the death penalty has become less entrenched over time because of repeated incidents of police, prosecutor, and judicial corruption, and I do have a problem with the over-inclusive nature of the sex offender registry.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (NWiLs)
115
24 hour rule.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (H80UQ)
116
A few things:
1. Notice how the media waited to report the name of the killer compared to past shady mass shootings. They played by the Columbine rules.
B. His Facebook was completely scrubbed excerpt for 15 friends. White kid who was raised Mormon and homeschooled who feel into nihilism and became angry with the society that blames white men and boys for everything.
III. He flipped and went full Joker and just wanted to see the world burn.
d. I would not discount another bomber. This kid seems to be the submissive one. Somebody around his age or slightly older was teaching him this shit. It's my guess.
Conclusion: I'm surprised we have not seen more of this and I wonder if this is just the beginning. The war on men and boys (white and Christian) is very real and there will be blowback.
1. Notice how the media waited to report the name of the killer compared to past shady mass shootings. They played by the Columbine rules.
B. His Facebook was completely scrubbed excerpt for 15 friends. White kid who was raised Mormon and homeschooled who feel into nihilism and became angry with the society that blames white men and boys for everything.
III. He flipped and went full Joker and just wanted to see the world burn.
d. I would not discount another bomber. This kid seems to be the submissive one. Somebody around his age or slightly older was teaching him this shit. It's my guess.
Conclusion: I'm surprised we have not seen more of this and I wonder if this is just the beginning. The war on men and boys (white and Christian) is very real and there will be blowback.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (8ceaY)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
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How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
Alternatively, he - or someone he cares about - is on the sex offender registry.
You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
Alternatively, he - or someone he cares about - is on the sex offender registry.
Posted by: blaster at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (jHrzU)
119
"Is there a name for spiking the football after you make some sort of
vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out
right?"
Suspect is hatless. Repeat, hatless!
vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out
right?"
Suspect is hatless. Repeat, hatless!
Posted by: Chief Wiggum at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (eAZVt)
120
As a lifelong conservative what loves America as founded, I'm happy this murderous threat had been eliminated with extreme prejudice. His actions belied his words.
Yet Leftie will circle the wagons around their sacred cows like Clinton, Clinton, Clinton, Farrakhan and Gosnell.
Yet Leftie will circle the wagons around their sacred cows like Clinton, Clinton, Clinton, Farrakhan and Gosnell.
Posted by: Taqyia2Me at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (Ftuf+)
121
How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
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it's pretty easy if you try.
serious tho, that sex offender registry is complete bullshit. Another example of thinking the world is full of lifetime monsters when most SOR are hardly child touching pervs.
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it's pretty easy if you try.
serious tho, that sex offender registry is complete bullshit. Another example of thinking the world is full of lifetime monsters when most SOR are hardly child touching pervs.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (DQC26)
122
I don't know about "educated." He went to community college....
Posted by Ace of Spades
#communitycollegeshaming
I don't know about "educated." He went to community college....
Posted by Ace of Spades
#communitycollegeshaming
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (9chmE)
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Just my opinion. I really don't mind him being labeled as a conservative. Maybe conservatives need to make the left and politicians a bit nervous.
I still think though, that he was just killing for the thrill of killing.
I still think though, that he was just killing for the thrill of killing.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (Fs5vw)
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>>>Is there a name for spiking the football after you make some sort of vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out right?
...
the 20-30 age range guess was pretty good, tho.
I added up in the post my guess as to how they guessed that.
...
the 20-30 age range guess was pretty good, tho.
I added up in the post my guess as to how they guessed that.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (8rNrN)
125
He looks like he really needed to work on his GAINZ. Happily, he won't have to now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (ptqGC)
126
I said yesterday after that I thought possibly he was going to be a white guy with a chip on his shoulder regard to interaction with blacks while living in Pflugerville. I hope there is no racial component but it kind of points that way IMO.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (woCRW)
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: alexthechick
I agree.. It just pisses me off that "we" have to defend every-time one of these "Incidents" happens
I agree.. It just pisses me off that "we" have to defend every-time one of these "Incidents" happens
Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (O2RFr)
128
Many people who call themselves conservatives today claim that protectionism is not conservative.
Many of these 'conservatives' are the same internationalist, open-border types who support illegal immigration, free trade, and agreements that allow them access to slave-wage workforces and no environmental restrictions. Largely they favor what's good for Big Business at any cost to anyone else.
Many of these 'conservatives' are the same internationalist, open-border types who support illegal immigration, free trade, and agreements that allow them access to slave-wage workforces and no environmental restrictions. Largely they favor what's good for Big Business at any cost to anyone else.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (oVJmc)
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Dude was just randomly murdering people according to law enforcement. He was going through an online "phone book" and actually had more names picked out.
The whole things seems random. And senseless.
The whole things seems random. And senseless.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (VpIIl)
130
118
Maybe he was a pedo, didn't like the S O Registry.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
Except you don't have to be a pedo to get on it, or have an issue with people who haven't committed an actual sex crime being put on it.
Maybe he was a pedo, didn't like the S O Registry.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
Except you don't have to be a pedo to get on it, or have an issue with people who haven't committed an actual sex crime being put on it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (NWiLs)
131
Already pretty close to knowing more about this guy than the Las Vegas shooter.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (yL25O)
132
24 years old, shaped like a potato and bat-shit crazy.
Watch what else comes out about his past: Gamer. Recent Panti-fa convert. No father figure.
Prolly drug-addled with Ritalin or some other anti-boy drug.
Watch what else comes out about his past: Gamer. Recent Panti-fa convert. No father figure.
Prolly drug-addled with Ritalin or some other anti-boy drug.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (GdWl+)
133
Yesterday , this morning. 220 221.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (woCRW)
134
Did they find his MAGA hat yet?
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (LiyEm)
135
>>.#communitycollegeshaming
well not really. It's just that when you say "educated" people would take that to mean "more educated than the norm," which this guy wasn't. He was the norm.
It would be like saying the perp is "tall" when he's 5'9''. Well, he's not short, exactly, but that's not tall, obviously.
well not really. It's just that when you say "educated" people would take that to mean "more educated than the norm," which this guy wasn't. He was the norm.
It would be like saying the perp is "tall" when he's 5'9''. Well, he's not short, exactly, but that's not tall, obviously.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (8rNrN)
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You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
Posted by: Speaker Ryan at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (jHrzU)
137
97 the former ATF agent in charge had already predicted that the suspect was:
-- 20 to 30 years old
-- Educated
-- Mostly likely a local resident
---
Is there a name for spiking the football after you make some sort of vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (JTMqu)
This was describing the second bomber whom he theorized was out there and working with the Joker.
-- 20 to 30 years old
-- Educated
-- Mostly likely a local resident
---
Is there a name for spiking the football after you make some sort of vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (JTMqu)
This was describing the second bomber whom he theorized was out there and working with the Joker.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (8ceaY)
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (ia5FY)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (mPeei)
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I don't know about "educated." He went to community college....
Oh, my God! My niece goes to community college! Should I call the police?
Oh, my God! My niece goes to community college! Should I call the police?
Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (O5Q3r)
141
Many people who call themselves conservatives today claim that protectionism is not conservative.
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yah, we were pretty big into free trade 20 years ago but now we realize that maybe a little protectionism is nice...especially considering how fucking bad NAFTA was. learn to code, indeed!
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yah, we were pretty big into free trade 20 years ago but now we realize that maybe a little protectionism is nice...especially considering how fucking bad NAFTA was. learn to code, indeed!
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (DQC26)
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You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
That's what I say!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix)
That's what I say!
Posted by: Speaker Ryan at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (jHrzU)
143
You can't really bring a liberal to sanity by saying "don't use guilt by association against us, because we could make the same argument against you". This is because they all support their most evil followers. This is why they have sanctuary cities and want to abolish the death penalty.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (VpIIl)
145
>>> He looks like he really needed to work on his GAINZ. Happily, he won't have to now.
bro, do you even lift in Hell?
bro, do you even lift in Hell?
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (8rNrN)
146
How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix
How are these two the same?
You are either hard line conservative all the way down the line or you're not.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:09 PM (l/Pix
How are these two the same?
Posted by: dDan at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (hwYmz)
147
If muslims don't have to apologize for islam every day that one of theirs kills someone for allah, then we don't have to apologize for this little shit.
Posted by: josephistan at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (ANIFC)
148
Dipshit "self-identified" as a conservative in 2012, when he was 17 years old. He was 24 this year. Peoples' views can change a lot in six years.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (Dbv1R)
149
As an aside on the education/intelligence issue.
Have been reading some IQ stuff recently for work.
Interesting to find that people tend to group themselves socially by IQ. You tend to make friends with people who get your humor and share your experiences. Some life experiences are fairly universal (kid issues/death) and span he gaps. Other experiences - getting junior into an ivy league school are separators.
Also, the clear majority of people in this country are not as smart as the people who post here. (Even that banana idiot was probably smarter than average)
When you are above average intelligence it is difficult to grasp how difficult life is for someone who is on the low end of even average intelligence. They are literally falling behind the curve and have to work very hard to keep up with those on the front of the curve.
IQ privilege. Until you factor in the depression/suicide/addiction rates, I'm guessing.
Interesting to me, anyway.
Have been reading some IQ stuff recently for work.
Interesting to find that people tend to group themselves socially by IQ. You tend to make friends with people who get your humor and share your experiences. Some life experiences are fairly universal (kid issues/death) and span he gaps. Other experiences - getting junior into an ivy league school are separators.
Also, the clear majority of people in this country are not as smart as the people who post here. (Even that banana idiot was probably smarter than average)
When you are above average intelligence it is difficult to grasp how difficult life is for someone who is on the low end of even average intelligence. They are literally falling behind the curve and have to work very hard to keep up with those on the front of the curve.
IQ privilege. Until you factor in the depression/suicide/addiction rates, I'm guessing.
Interesting to me, anyway.
Posted by: simplemind at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (yyuq9)
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"41
Considering we still have no real idea or motive from the Mandalay Bay mass murderer, I will say that I will not believe a friggin' thing that Big Law Enforcement tells me I should.
Thanks, Comey, Mueller, Holder for that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton "
Not one thing, damn straight.
Trust has to be earned.
And they have been doing the exact opposite for decades.
Considering we still have no real idea or motive from the Mandalay Bay mass murderer, I will say that I will not believe a friggin' thing that Big Law Enforcement tells me I should.
Thanks, Comey, Mueller, Holder for that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton "
Not one thing, damn straight.
Trust has to be earned.
And they have been doing the exact opposite for decades.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (e11dj)
Posted by: NEA at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (O2RFr)
152
97 the former ATF agent in charge had already predicted that the suspect was:
-- 20 to 30 years old
-- Educated
-- Mostly likely a local resident
---
Is there a name for spiking the football after you make some sort of vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (JTMqu)
Nostradamus is demanding royalties. Also, a shitload of astrologers who write horoscopes for newspapers.
-- 20 to 30 years old
-- Educated
-- Mostly likely a local resident
---
Is there a name for spiking the football after you make some sort of vague guess that applies to a half million people and it turns out right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:07 PM (JTMqu)
Nostradamus is demanding royalties. Also, a shitload of astrologers who write horoscopes for newspapers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (inyex)
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How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
---
it's pretty easy if you try.
serious tho, that sex offender registry is complete bullshit.
Another example of thinking the world is full of lifetime monsters when
most SOR are hardly child touching pervs.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (DQC26)
The VAST majority of people on the registries are NOT pedophiles, and are significantly less likely to reoffend than virtually all other categories of convicted criminals.
As a civil rights issue, it's low on most people's priorities, but yeah, the sex offender registry is a lousy way for a so-called free society to operate.
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it's pretty easy if you try.
serious tho, that sex offender registry is complete bullshit.
Another example of thinking the world is full of lifetime monsters when
most SOR are hardly child touching pervs.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (DQC26)
The VAST majority of people on the registries are NOT pedophiles, and are significantly less likely to reoffend than virtually all other categories of convicted criminals.
As a civil rights issue, it's low on most people's priorities, but yeah, the sex offender registry is a lousy way for a so-called free society to operate.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2018 01:14 PM (9chmE)
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so the MSM has their "conservative" tag locked and loaded.
How often did he attend church?
Was he in the NRA?
Was he an Eagle Scout?
on the other side
Did he play violent video games?
Did he watch MSM news?
Why did he not finish college?
How often did he attend church?
Was he in the NRA?
Was he an Eagle Scout?
on the other side
Did he play violent video games?
Did he watch MSM news?
Why did he not finish college?
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (bT8Z4)
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the 20-30 age range guess was pretty good, tho.
I added up in the post my guess as to how they guessed that.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (8rNrN)
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Sure, but if I guessed he was 30-40 or 40-50 I've only missed one of the profile points, and it would be easy to dismiss. "Well, this is an inexact science, and we're dealing with so many unknowns..."
What percentage of Austin is 20-30?
I added up in the post my guess as to how they guessed that.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:11 PM (8rNrN)
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Sure, but if I guessed he was 30-40 or 40-50 I've only missed one of the profile points, and it would be easy to dismiss. "Well, this is an inexact science, and we're dealing with so many unknowns..."
What percentage of Austin is 20-30?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (JTMqu)
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Also, does darkening the door of a juco for ten minutes qualify as "educated?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (inyex)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (oVJmc)
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He looks like he really needed to work on his GAINZ. Happily, he won't have to now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM
1 simple trick to explode away body fat!
He coulda made a fortune.
He looks like he really needed to work on his GAINZ. Happily, he won't have to now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM
1 simple trick to explode away body fat!
He coulda made a fortune.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (LOgQ4)
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>>>Oh, my God! My niece goes to community college! Should I call the police?
not what i'm saying. But if a profile says a guy is "tall" I'm looking for someone at least 5'11" and probably 6 foot or taller. If he turns out to be 5'9", then the profile was wrong and had me looking for the wrong people.
not what i'm saying. But if a profile says a guy is "tall" I'm looking for someone at least 5'11" and probably 6 foot or taller. If he turns out to be 5'9", then the profile was wrong and had me looking for the wrong people.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (8rNrN)
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I'm giving this the usual 24-48 hour rule, as the news in this period is usually a lot of speculation based an a single/small set of facts, some of which may be updated later.
Glad he's dead, though.
Glad he's dead, though.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (W+vEI)
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I don't know if you saw the recent series "Manhunt:Unabomber" on Netflix, but it was well done. It was amazing though how far off the FBI's original profile was.
Basically they thought he was an uneducated, airline mechanic who was disgruntled. Turns out the Unabomber was a Harvard educated Mathematics genius who had some crazy, left-wing beliefs against capitalism and industry.
Basically they thought he was an uneducated, airline mechanic who was disgruntled. Turns out the Unabomber was a Harvard educated Mathematics genius who had some crazy, left-wing beliefs against capitalism and industry.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (lKmt3)
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I'm so sick of this springtime for Al Gore weather. Shitty, stupid weather. I feel it's like a punishment against all of us for tolerating people like Al Gore and Michael Mann.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (O2RFr)
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great, now you wingnuts are anti-community-college-community..great look. As a hunstman republican with a bit of Jeff Flake, I am saddened my party is the stereotype that liberal assholes make it out to be and bemoan that a real conservative like me couldn't even get elected in today's protectionist and anti-education GOP.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (DQC26)
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His grandmother in Colorado says he was a loving guy from a tight knit family. Peaceful young guy.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (ptqGC)
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O/T but I got to the previous thread too late.
Thanks to MP4 for mentioning Ravel's "Pavane for a Dead Princess". The instrumentality of the orchestral version reminds me of the New World Symphony: lovely and evocative of longing. But the melody translates well to a solo instrument like classical guitar.
Add the Vaughn Williams "Lark Ascending" and "Fantasia on a Theme by Tallis" for beautiful listening. Beats the hell out of today's news reports.
Thanks to MP4 for mentioning Ravel's "Pavane for a Dead Princess". The instrumentality of the orchestral version reminds me of the New World Symphony: lovely and evocative of longing. But the melody translates well to a solo instrument like classical guitar.
Add the Vaughn Williams "Lark Ascending" and "Fantasia on a Theme by Tallis" for beautiful listening. Beats the hell out of today's news reports.
Posted by: JTB at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (V+03K)
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Glad he's dead, though.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (W+vEI)
I think we have another 12 hours on that....
Posted by: Lizzy at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (W+vEI)
I think we have another 12 hours on that....
Posted by: Speaker Ryan at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (jHrzU)
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They don't link to this blog, or even tell you where it was.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (oVJmc)
It wasn't his blog. It was a blog of the community college he attended, and he posted comments to it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (oVJmc)
It wasn't his blog. It was a blog of the community college he attended, and he posted comments to it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (Dbv1R)
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The guy also did not graduate from community college.
So, if you're a cop, and you're told he's "educated," what do you do if you come across a community college dropout as a minor possible lead?
You might say "doesn't fit the profile" and move on.
So, if you're a cop, and you're told he's "educated," what do you do if you come across a community college dropout as a minor possible lead?
You might say "doesn't fit the profile" and move on.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (8rNrN)
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DEFINITION OF A CONSERVATIVE (a few)
Believes in upholding the
constitution as it is written.
Supports the second
amendment whole-heartedly.
Believes laws should be
enforced. If it is a bad law, get rid of it.
Believes welfare and public
assistance are wrong. Charity should be from religious institutions
or individuals, not the government.
Believes politicians should
be honest, no matter what Party they belong to.
DEFINITION OF A CONSERVATIVE (a few)
Believes in upholding the
constitution as it is written.
Supports the second
amendment whole-heartedly.
Believes laws should be
enforced. If it is a bad law, get rid of it.
Believes welfare and public
assistance are wrong. Charity should be from religious institutions
or individuals, not the government.
Believes politicians should
be honest, no matter what Party they belong to.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (mpXpK)
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And lost in all this babble about the bomber is the troubling matter of why didn't the Austin police do anything of substance after the first bomb?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (flYWz)
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One would like to intellectually deduce that if his political beliefs were a motivating factor, he would specifically go after groups who were his political detractors.
For example- against gay marriage, find homosexuals to attack.
There is zero evidence he did that. In fact, law enforcement has said the evidence currently point to this as being a random "phonebook" attack.
But yeah, he's conservative or something.
For example- against gay marriage, find homosexuals to attack.
There is zero evidence he did that. In fact, law enforcement has said the evidence currently point to this as being a random "phonebook" attack.
But yeah, he's conservative or something.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (VpIIl)
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Also, the clear majority of people in this country are not as smart as the people who post here.
I'm doing my part to put AoSHQ back on the left side of the bell curve!
I'm doing my part to put AoSHQ back on the left side of the bell curve!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (SGFoV)
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I'm a little boggled that FedEx didn't call 911 when you have an active bomber in the area and someone comes in wearing gloves, hat, and a wig.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
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if he was a shitlib he would've let them take him alive and University of Wisconsin would have given him a gelatto franchise on campus.
Posted by: x at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (nFwvY)
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Wow...
the School to Prison Pipeline wasn't just diverted. They reversed the flow. Took people from lockup and brought them back to the schools.
Nice job Obama / Holder.
the School to Prison Pipeline wasn't just diverted. They reversed the flow. Took people from lockup and brought them back to the schools.
Nice job Obama / Holder.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (ia5FY)
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>>.#communitycollegeshaming
well not really. It's just that when you say "educated" people would
take that to mean "more educated than the norm," which this guy wasn't.
He was the norm.
It would be like saying the perp is "tall" when he's 5'9''. Well, he's not short, exactly, but that's not tall, obviously.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (8rNrN)
I'm just shittin' ya, Ace.
I don't even know if I properly used the hashtag thingy.
well not really. It's just that when you say "educated" people would
take that to mean "more educated than the norm," which this guy wasn't.
He was the norm.
It would be like saying the perp is "tall" when he's 5'9''. Well, he's not short, exactly, but that's not tall, obviously.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (8rNrN)
I'm just shittin' ya, Ace.
I don't even know if I properly used the hashtag thingy.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (9chmE)
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Also, as a hunstman republican, I can also confirm that the democrats' self-stereotype as being full science loving, pretty people who recycle and love everyone is totally reality based. It's a shame my party has morphed into the opposite. sad.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (DQC26)
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Meanwhile, CNN, MSNBC, and the NYT will strangely be silent on the possible political philosophy leanings of the Chicago, LA, Baltimore, etc., thugs and gang members, who kill more people every weekend than the Austin bastard did in a month.
Posted by: Gref at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (AMIL/)
180
d. I would not discount another bomber. This kid seems to be the
submissive one. Somebody around his age or slightly older was teaching
him this shit. It's my guess.
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If I had not witnessed Antifa, BLM , Pussyhats and various other Soros-funded radical action terrorist groups and watched 8 years of the weaponization of government, law enforcement and intelligence agencies against the Left's enemies by a Soros-funded radical administration , I would not have seriously considered the possibility that someone weaponized this kid.
I am seriously considering this.
submissive one. Somebody around his age or slightly older was teaching
him this shit. It's my guess.
....
If I had not witnessed Antifa, BLM , Pussyhats and various other Soros-funded radical action terrorist groups and watched 8 years of the weaponization of government, law enforcement and intelligence agencies against the Left's enemies by a Soros-funded radical administration , I would not have seriously considered the possibility that someone weaponized this kid.
I am seriously considering this.
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (aYKMr)
181
Basically they thought he was an uneducated, airline mechanic who was disgruntled. Turns out the Unabomber was a Harvard educated Mathematics genius who had some crazy, left-wing beliefs against capitalism and industry.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (lKmt3)
Who was most certainly gruntled, so they got that wrong too.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (lKmt3)
Who was most certainly gruntled, so they got that wrong too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (inyex)
182
So they have it all and know what's what but it's inconveneient so don't expect a report any time soon.
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It impacts national security or something. Personally I think it was cover for an attempted assassination of the now current Ksa ruling prince
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It impacts national security or something. Personally I think it was cover for an attempted assassination of the now current Ksa ruling prince
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at March 21, 2018 01:18 PM (4xVJP)
183
Lots of blackpilled conservative young men out there. I'm not justifying the blowback, but to pretend there would be none after Christian White men and boys are shitted on 24/7/365 by a society that clearly hates them and blames them for everything is delusional.
Its almost as if the divide and conquer Marxists/Commies want this outcome.
Its almost as if the divide and conquer Marxists/Commies want this outcome.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:18 PM (8ceaY)
184
"Those two don't necessarily go hand in hand. My support for the death penalty has become less entrenched over time because of repeated incidents of police, prosecutor, and judicial corruption, and I do have a problem with the over-inclusive nature of the sex offender registry."
I found I used to have much more hardline views when I was younger, and I've become much more of a civil libertarian over the years as I've become more involved with the legal system, and I've known and talked to people personally who have been targeted by a vindictive prosecutor. I've seen people who've been pressed into pleading guilty when even the prosecutor knew they were innocent, just so the prosecutor could notch another conviction on his resume.
(why would someone plead to a crime they didn't do? "Hey, sign here, the sentence is probated and it will all be over today, or else its 2 more years of you getting dragged into court and . maybe you do hard time after that. And that registry is no big deal, don't sweat it.")
I found I used to have much more hardline views when I was younger, and I've become much more of a civil libertarian over the years as I've become more involved with the legal system, and I've known and talked to people personally who have been targeted by a vindictive prosecutor. I've seen people who've been pressed into pleading guilty when even the prosecutor knew they were innocent, just so the prosecutor could notch another conviction on his resume.
(why would someone plead to a crime they didn't do? "Hey, sign here, the sentence is probated and it will all be over today, or else its 2 more years of you getting dragged into court and . maybe you do hard time after that. And that registry is no big deal, don't sweat it.")
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:18 PM (k1TUh)
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How long until they take something like this bomber and just fabricate a Social Media history ... to support the narrative ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 21, 2018 01:18 PM (yv6t0)
186
I don't think the registry issue has much relevance.
I'd abolish them. They're overbroad and obtuse even when they are on point; if someone is such a risk to society that the State has to track them and publish their whereabouts, they should not be out on the streets.
I'd abolish them. They're overbroad and obtuse even when they are on point; if someone is such a risk to society that the State has to track them and publish their whereabouts, they should not be out on the streets.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (ckk1c)
187
Family was not native Texans. That much was easy to figure out.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (VpIIl)
188
Dipshit "self-identified" as a conservative in 2012, when he was 17 years old. He was 24 this year. Peoples' views can change a lot in six years.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Outside of most of us here,
the usual life progression is:
1. liberal
2. then conservative (usually after getting mugged)
3. then back to liberal as dementia sets in
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Outside of most of us here,
the usual life progression is:
1. liberal
2. then conservative (usually after getting mugged)
3. then back to liberal as dementia sets in
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (LOgQ4)
189
Even considering a conservative in Austin might be very pro-gay bathroom and sex offenders, until I see something more recent I'm sticking with antifa.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than
My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (JTMqu)
.There is no better way for an antifa anti-capitalist type to cause economic disruption than to shake peoples confidence in the package delivery network
Even considering a conservative in Austin might be very pro-gay bathroom and sex offenders, until I see something more recent I'm sticking with antifa.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than
My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (JTMqu)
.There is no better way for an antifa anti-capitalist type to cause economic disruption than to shake peoples confidence in the package delivery network
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (yL25O)
191
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
Please, don't tell me "Keep [ ] Weird" is a thing in Austin now, too. That used to be battle cry in Berkeley.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
Please, don't tell me "Keep [ ] Weird" is a thing in Austin now, too. That used to be battle cry in Berkeley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (inyex)
192
How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
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Necrophilia?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (oVJmc)
*golfclap*
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Necrophilia?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM (oVJmc)
*golfclap*
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: simplemind at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (HIkzN)
194
If he wanted to cause serious mayhem, he would have FedEx'd a package to be sent by air to go off during the flight phase. A downed plane would have been a lot more high-profile than mining a hiking trail.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:20 PM (oVJmc)
195
Those two don't necessarily go hand in hand. My support for the death penalty has become less entrenched over time because of repeated incidents of police, prosecutor, and judicial corruption, and I do have a problem with the over-inclusive nature of the sex offender registry.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (NWiLs)
++++
Agreed. There are people on that list for nothing more than getting drunk and taking a leak in a (semi) public location.
Plus, there's the ex post facto nature of some of those lists that violates our constitution.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:10 PM (NWiLs)
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Agreed. There are people on that list for nothing more than getting drunk and taking a leak in a (semi) public location.
Plus, there's the ex post facto nature of some of those lists that violates our constitution.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 01:20 PM (pvjTE)
196
Lots of blackpilled conservative young men out there. I'm not justifying the blowback, but to pretend there would be none after Christian White men and boys are shitted on 24/7/365 by a society that clearly hates them and blames them for everything is delusional.
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yeah, how long can you balkanize a country before the new generation no longer abides by the old rules.
I mean, a lot of cons talk tough but the older generations got bulldozed every time by the left to the point now where our kids are strangers in our own country and our values are completely shit upon...
so who knows. all I can say is that not all conservatives are like that...which up until now was good enough for liberals flooding the West with pervy muslims
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yeah, how long can you balkanize a country before the new generation no longer abides by the old rules.
I mean, a lot of cons talk tough but the older generations got bulldozed every time by the left to the point now where our kids are strangers in our own country and our values are completely shit upon...
so who knows. all I can say is that not all conservatives are like that...which up until now was good enough for liberals flooding the West with pervy muslims
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (DQC26)
197
By educated, that could just mean 'not a high school dropout'. We still have those, ya know. And of course, not all HS graduates are 'educated' either.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (0ogQG)
198
Please, don't tell me "Keep [ ] Weird" is a thing in Austin now, too. That used to be battle cry in Berkeley.
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I think Asheville, NC has it as xits official motto.
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I think Asheville, NC has it as xits official motto.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (JTMqu)
199
I found I used to have much more hardline views when I was younger, and I've become much more of a civil libertarian over the years as I've become more involved with the legal system, and I've known and talked to people personally who have been targeted by a vindictive prosecutor. I've seen people who've been pressed into pleading guilty when even the prosecutor knew they were innocent, just so the prosecutor could notch another conviction on his resume.
(why would someone plead to a crime they didn't do? "Hey, sign here, the sentence is probated and it will all be over today, or else its 2 more years of you getting dragged into court and . maybe you do hard time after that. And that registry is no big deal, don't sweat it.")
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:18 PM (k1TUh)
Yep. I don't think that supporting the concept of the rule of law necessitates having blind faith in the system.
(why would someone plead to a crime they didn't do? "Hey, sign here, the sentence is probated and it will all be over today, or else its 2 more years of you getting dragged into court and . maybe you do hard time after that. And that registry is no big deal, don't sweat it.")
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:18 PM (k1TUh)
Yep. I don't think that supporting the concept of the rule of law necessitates having blind faith in the system.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (NWiLs)
200
And lost in all this babble about the bomber is the troubling matter of why didn't the Austin police do anything of substance after the first bomb?
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Wasn't much they could do beyond running around in circles, scream and shout; wave their hands all about like their hair was on fire until they had a description of the guy's car and his credit card number. They moved pretty fast after that.
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Wasn't much they could do beyond running around in circles, scream and shout; wave their hands all about like their hair was on fire until they had a description of the guy's car and his credit card number. They moved pretty fast after that.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (roQNm)
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I bet the profile was a lot more extensive than the few facts the guy was somewhat accurate on.
But the left won't be able to help themselves. They'll run with this forever, screaming about Christian Conservative because they desperately need one for the narrative. And any time you point out: nothing to do with the bombings, they'll scream SO WHAT YOU SAY MUSLIM MUSLIM MUSLIM AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH SOMEONE CRYING ALLAHU AKBARH AND KILLING PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!!!!!!11!
Proper headline: Conservative Christian betrays everything they stand for by murdering people/Muslim radical kills people in accord with the teachings of his faith.
But the left won't be able to help themselves. They'll run with this forever, screaming about Christian Conservative because they desperately need one for the narrative. And any time you point out: nothing to do with the bombings, they'll scream SO WHAT YOU SAY MUSLIM MUSLIM MUSLIM AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH SOMEONE CRYING ALLAHU AKBARH AND KILLING PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!!!!!!11!
Proper headline: Conservative Christian betrays everything they stand for by murdering people/Muslim radical kills people in accord with the teachings of his faith.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (39g3+)
202
166 His grandmother in Colorado says he was a loving guy from a tight knit family. Peaceful young guy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (ptqGC)
Every family of every psycho murderer says this. For once, I'd like to hear something like,
"Yeah, our son Bob always was a complete asshole who hated everyone. We knew he had a screw loose, so when we heard that he dynamited an orphanage and killed 43 kids, we're not surprised."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (ptqGC)
Every family of every psycho murderer says this. For once, I'd like to hear something like,
"Yeah, our son Bob always was a complete asshole who hated everyone. We knew he had a screw loose, so when we heard that he dynamited an orphanage and killed 43 kids, we're not surprised."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (wHMIo)
203
Over/under on Chris Cuomo heading to Texas right now?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (ptqGC)
204
Please, don't tell me "Keep [ ] Weird" is a thing in Austin now, too. That used to be battle cry in Berkeley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (inyex)
...
It's the bumper sticker on every second Prius here.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM (inyex)
...
It's the bumper sticker on every second Prius here.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (yL25O)
205
also, stop political shaming us, libs.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (DQC26)
206
182 Basically they thought he was an uneducated, airline mechanic who was disgruntled. Turns out the Unabomber was a Harvard educated Mathematics genius who had some crazy, left-wing beliefs against capitalism and industry.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (lKmt3)
Who was most certainly gruntled, so they got that wrong too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (inyex)
If you read his manifesto, he goes into great detail about how toxic leftists are. It's amazing how spot on it is too.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (lKmt3)
Who was most certainly gruntled, so they got that wrong too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (inyex)
If you read his manifesto, he goes into great detail about how toxic leftists are. It's amazing how spot on it is too.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (4ErVI)
207
>>> I'm a little boggled that FedEx didn't call 911 when you have an active bomber in the area and someone comes in wearing gloves, hat, and a wig.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
...
people aren't really as observant, decisive, and proactive as one might like.
This is why I they should give us badges and fly us over during one of these things.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
...
people aren't really as observant, decisive, and proactive as one might like.
This is why I they should give us badges and fly us over during one of these things.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (8rNrN)
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197
By educated, that could just mean 'not a high school dropout'. We still
have those, ya know. And of course, not all HS graduates are 'educated'
either.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (0ogQG)
If he graduated from HS in the last 20 or 30 years than he is not 'educated'.
By educated, that could just mean 'not a high school dropout'. We still
have those, ya know. And of course, not all HS graduates are 'educated'
either.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (0ogQG)
If he graduated from HS in the last 20 or 30 years than he is not 'educated'.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (mpXpK)
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198 Please, don't tell me "Keep [ ] Weird" is a thing in Austin now, too. That used to be battle cry in Berkeley.
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I think Asheville, NC has it as xits official motto.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (JTMqu)
Portland, OR, too.
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I think Asheville, NC has it as xits official motto.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (JTMqu)
Portland, OR, too.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (wHMIo)
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I'm sure he was conservative and he probably went to church. He may have even been Christian at some very fallen level, and insane enough to blow things up.
I mean, the odds are that after 20-30 leftists we'd eventually see a right leaning psycho like this.
I mean, the odds are that after 20-30 leftists we'd eventually see a right leaning psycho like this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (39g3+)
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Shoot, forgot to add Lifetime NRA member. Either way, guess I shouldn't get into the news.
*erases project list*
*erases project list*
Posted by: RI Red - proud member, CRNSA at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (osYf1)
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Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (oVJmc)
Free-trade and open borders have nothing to do with each other. Most people who advocate both either are beneficiaries of both policies or are anarchist/libertarian who believe the federal gov shouldn't regulate those things.
Gains from trade is a large economic benefit that has been well understood for over 200 years.
Open borders leads to wage equalization between populations. This has clear downsides when dealing with dissimilar countries.
Free-trade and open borders have nothing to do with each other. Most people who advocate both either are beneficiaries of both policies or are anarchist/libertarian who believe the federal gov shouldn't regulate those things.
Gains from trade is a large economic benefit that has been well understood for over 200 years.
Open borders leads to wage equalization between populations. This has clear downsides when dealing with dissimilar countries.
Posted by: Sjg at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (gDSJf)
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Just like Parkland, this too will pass upon the next event.
Of all these things though, the Las Vegas one really has my conspiracy antenna up for some reason.
Just like Parkland, this too will pass upon the next event.
Of all these things though, the Las Vegas one really has my conspiracy antenna up for some reason.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (r+sAi)
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133 24 years old, shaped like a potato and bat-shit crazy.
Watch what else comes out about his past: Gamer. Recent Panti-fa convert. No father figure.
Prolly drug-addled with Ritalin or some other anti-boy drug.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (GdWl+)
He came from an intact large Mormon family.
Marxist/Commies identity politics and policies have consequences. It's fucking kids and young white Christian men up. But this is the endgame.
Watch what else comes out about his past: Gamer. Recent Panti-fa convert. No father figure.
Prolly drug-addled with Ritalin or some other anti-boy drug.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 21, 2018 01:13 PM (GdWl+)
He came from an intact large Mormon family.
Marxist/Commies identity politics and policies have consequences. It's fucking kids and young white Christian men up. But this is the endgame.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (8ceaY)
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conservative, commie, libertarian. whatever, crazy is crazy, no matter the religion. i self identify as a yellow tailed wasp, usually. who cares what this asshat was? fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to through life either way.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (KP5rU)
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I like the cut of this fellow's jib and wish to subscribe to his newsletter.
Posted by: Mahmoud at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (cHbmY)
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"This couldn't be more ready made for their spinning than if they had organized it themselves.
Posted by: bicentennialguy"
Uhuh. Sure is.
"186 How long until they take something like this bomber and just fabricate a Social Media history ... to support the narrative ?
Posted by: ScoggDog "
This might be a "historic first" ... how long would it take, really, if someone with the admin access wanted to set this up ? Couple of hours overnight ?
Posted by: bicentennialguy"
Uhuh. Sure is.
"186 How long until they take something like this bomber and just fabricate a Social Media history ... to support the narrative ?
Posted by: ScoggDog "
This might be a "historic first" ... how long would it take, really, if someone with the admin access wanted to set this up ? Couple of hours overnight ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (e11dj)
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I'm a little boggled that FedEx didn't call 911 when you have an active bomber in the area and someone comes in wearing gloves, hat, and a wig.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
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And this is where it ties into the last thread. People afraid to say anthing about anyone because it might be deemed offensive.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
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And this is where it ties into the last thread. People afraid to say anthing about anyone because it might be deemed offensive.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (Fs5vw)
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His eyes were blue. Like Christa McAuliffe's.
Posted by: Mega at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (iM8ao)
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I think Asheville, NC has it as xits official motto.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (JTMqu)
I guess it's a matter of time till the trend hits Savannah, what with SCAD here. *sigh*
Hipsters ruin everything.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (JTMqu)
I guess it's a matter of time till the trend hits Savannah, what with SCAD here. *sigh*
Hipsters ruin everything.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (ptqGC)
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"His grandmother in Colorado says he was a loving guy from a tight knit family. Peaceful young guy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (ptqGC) "
He was a good boy. Just starting to get his life together, in between making sophisticated bombs, developing murderous plots and finding devious ways to avoid detection.
Look, I feel sorry for the family. But how don't you know the kid is making bombs and acting strangely.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (ptqGC) "
He was a good boy. Just starting to get his life together, in between making sophisticated bombs, developing murderous plots and finding devious ways to avoid detection.
Look, I feel sorry for the family. But how don't you know the kid is making bombs and acting strangely.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (VpIIl)
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I don't know this guys specific motivation for the bombing, but for the sake of argument let's pretend it's racial. The CONSTANT agitation of the media and the Democrats on racial issues 24/7 is going to stoke the fires of the fringe lunatics. I actually think this is exactly what they want, just look at the phony Confederate statue scandal. I guarantee you that girl getting run over was EXACTLY what they were aiming for.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (lKmt3)
In Charlottesville? Didn't it turn out that the girl died of a heart attack or something? Not the car?
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:05 PM (lKmt3)
In Charlottesville? Didn't it turn out that the girl died of a heart attack or something? Not the car?
Posted by: free tibet at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (xDk+1)
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Keep [city name here] weird is exhibit A that you have a left wing city with left wing government that's spiraling the craphole drain.
By "weird" they mean "queer tranny communist detritus of humanity pretending their perversion and incompetence is art"
By "weird" they mean "queer tranny communist detritus of humanity pretending their perversion and incompetence is art"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (4xVJP)
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and here i thought it was Dorhn and Ayers offspring. can't be right everytime.
may this guys deeds be on his head.
may this guys deeds be on his head.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (/ikqi)
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>>>
And this is where it ties into the last thread. People afraid to say anthing about anyone because it might be deemed offensive.
you can say whatever you like about a white man.
Unless... he might be trans.
Maybe that stupid wig made people think "Oh he's a trans, and therefore innocent as a lamb."
And this is where it ties into the last thread. People afraid to say anthing about anyone because it might be deemed offensive.
you can say whatever you like about a white man.
Unless... he might be trans.
Maybe that stupid wig made people think "Oh he's a trans, and therefore innocent as a lamb."
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (8rNrN)
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I'm a lifelong conservative, and this person is no conservative in the classic, Olympia Snowe sense. He's clearly an extremist who was radicalized by the far-right's hateful rhetoric.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (ismre)
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Glad he's dead, though.
On that we can all agree
Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (O2RFr)
I'm just happy that the only person he took out at the end was himself.
As far as this being a random attack, that is the nightmare scenario.
Look at that waste of DNA in Tampa that was, literally, walking up to people and executing them and walking away.That they caught him after only 4 murders is nigh to a miracle. Oh and they only caught him because he asked a co-worker at McDonald's to hold onto a gun for safe keeping and the co-worker called the cops. That's not a slam on the cops, by the way. In that case there was barely any evidence from which they could start an investigation.
I will repeat my belief about the Las Vegas shooter. We do not know the motive and will never know the motive because there was no motive. He just wanted to kill as many people as he could because he could. I believe this because that is the nightmare scenario.
On that we can all agree
Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (O2RFr)
I'm just happy that the only person he took out at the end was himself.
As far as this being a random attack, that is the nightmare scenario.
Look at that waste of DNA in Tampa that was, literally, walking up to people and executing them and walking away.That they caught him after only 4 murders is nigh to a miracle. Oh and they only caught him because he asked a co-worker at McDonald's to hold onto a gun for safe keeping and the co-worker called the cops. That's not a slam on the cops, by the way. In that case there was barely any evidence from which they could start an investigation.
I will repeat my belief about the Las Vegas shooter. We do not know the motive and will never know the motive because there was no motive. He just wanted to kill as many people as he could because he could. I believe this because that is the nightmare scenario.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (mf5HN)
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I don't know if you saw the recent series "Manhunt:Unabomber" on Netflix, but it was well done. It was amazing though how far off the FBI's original profile was.
Basically they thought he was an uneducated, airline mechanic who was disgruntled. Turns out the Unabomber was a Harvard educated Mathematics genius who had some crazy, left-wing beliefs against capitalism and industry.
Posted by: Maritime
AFTER having mind control experiments done on him by the government.
Basically they thought he was an uneducated, airline mechanic who was disgruntled. Turns out the Unabomber was a Harvard educated Mathematics genius who had some crazy, left-wing beliefs against capitalism and industry.
Posted by: Maritime
AFTER having mind control experiments done on him by the government.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (l/Pix)
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I'm a little boggled that FedEx didn't call 911 when you have an active bomber in the area and someone comes in wearing gloves, hat, and a wig.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
You'd think the chin strap on the wig would've tipped someone off, but Noooooo.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
You'd think the chin strap on the wig would've tipped someone off, but Noooooo.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (4ErVI)
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>>Just like Parkland, this too will pass upon the next event.
Don't forget the Jupiter, FL HS student who converted to Islam and went all stabby-jihadi on his friend's mom, brother, and friend's brother's friend last week.
Don't forget the Jupiter, FL HS student who converted to Islam and went all stabby-jihadi on his friend's mom, brother, and friend's brother's friend last week.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (W+vEI)
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We're looking at Greenville and Spartanburg. Somebody tell me now if that's a mistake.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (VpIIl)
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208: Vic, I believe the proper term is indoctrinated. Schools haven't educated anyone for decades.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (KP5rU)
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How long until they take something like this bomber and just fabricate a Social Media history ... to support the narrative ?
This might be a "historic first" ... how long would it take,
really, if someone with the admin access wanted to set this up? Couple
of hours overnight ?
...
Unpossible.
This might be a "historic first" ... how long would it take,
really, if someone with the admin access wanted to set this up? Couple
of hours overnight ?
...
Unpossible.
Posted by: FaceTwitGoogAzon Social Justice Enforcement Team at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (ROV4u)
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Mormon? It would have pretty funny if he had been Amish. Not that any of this is funny . Black humor funny.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (woCRW)
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people aren't really as observant, decisive, and proactive as one might like.
This is why I they should give us badges and fly us over during one of these things.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (8rNrN)
AceForceOne
This is why I they should give us badges and fly us over during one of these things.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (8rNrN)
AceForceOne
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (yL25O)
237
Every family of every psycho murderer says this. For once, I'd like to hear something like,
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (wHMIo)
Father - The best part of that little bastard ran down his mother's leg.
Mother - No, really, its true. I washed the sheets the next day.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (wHMIo)
Father - The best part of that little bastard ran down his mother's leg.
Mother - No, really, its true. I washed the sheets the next day.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 21, 2018 01:26 PM (yv6t0)
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Posted by: DaveA at March 21, 2018 01:26 PM (FhXTo)
239
I'm sure he was conservative and he probably went to
church. He may have even been Christian at some very fallen level, and
insane enough to blow things up.
I mean, the odds are that after 20-30 leftists we'd eventually see a right leaning psycho like this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (39g3+)
I'm an educated guy (yes, I really took one class at a community college!), but I have to admit I have no idea what "conservative" means anymore.
And even if I did, I refuse to align myself with someone who is mailing bombs. Regardless of whatever else we might agree on, I don't agree with them on that. So I'm not going to wear the label.
church. He may have even been Christian at some very fallen level, and
insane enough to blow things up.
I mean, the odds are that after 20-30 leftists we'd eventually see a right leaning psycho like this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:23 PM (39g3+)
I'm an educated guy (yes, I really took one class at a community college!), but I have to admit I have no idea what "conservative" means anymore.
And even if I did, I refuse to align myself with someone who is mailing bombs. Regardless of whatever else we might agree on, I don't agree with them on that. So I'm not going to wear the label.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2018 01:26 PM (9chmE)
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153 97 the former ATF agent in charge had already predicted that the suspect was:
-- 20 to 30 years old (yeah, DUH right at half of all murders in the US are committed by those aged 20 - 30, its the obvious percentage play)
-- Educated (he knew how to make a fairly sophisticated bomb, displaying some advanced technical skill, meaning he had some education)
-- Mostly likely a local resident (DUH he hand delivered the first three bombs to the houses)
The old fortune tellers trick make some extremely easy guesses and then claim how skillful you are.
-- 20 to 30 years old (yeah, DUH right at half of all murders in the US are committed by those aged 20 - 30, its the obvious percentage play)
-- Educated (he knew how to make a fairly sophisticated bomb, displaying some advanced technical skill, meaning he had some education)
-- Mostly likely a local resident (DUH he hand delivered the first three bombs to the houses)
The old fortune tellers trick make some extremely easy guesses and then claim how skillful you are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:27 PM (k1TUh)
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fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to through life either way.
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I disagree!!
*falls down stairs*
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I disagree!!
*falls down stairs*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 21, 2018 01:27 PM (TX8Oe)
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Mormon? Seriously??
Posted by: LASue at March 21, 2018 01:27 PM (Z48ZB)
243
198 Please, don't tell me "Keep [ ] Weird" is a thing in Austin now, too. That used to be battle cry in Berkeley.
it's been Austin's motto for a very long time. maybe those other cities borrowed it.
it's been Austin's motto for a very long time. maybe those other cities borrowed it.
Posted by: x at March 21, 2018 01:27 PM (nFwvY)
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In fairness to FedEx, the bomber had not sent anything by mail up until that point. And there are a lot of weird-looking folks in Austin. If you called the fuzz everytime you saw someone looking or behaving odd, the circuits would melt.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (ckk1c)
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The Unabomber was an experimental subject in the sooper secret CIA program MKUltra, where they were dosing folks with LSD.
I'm not making this up.
I'm not making this up.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (0ogQG)
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He has 2 roommates who are cooperating. I find it hard to believe that they would have known nothing. They probably are black pilled young white Christian men as well.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (8ceaY)
247
Hey guys over here...
Posted by: Hogg the media Hog at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (O2RFr)
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There was one other Mormon bomber, happened in Colorado about two decades ago.
This guy kept finding lost early Mormon documents and making big bucks. Until it started to unravel. Two critics got bombs. And as the police were investigating he blew himself up but not lethally.
Turns out he had been forging all these documents. And bombing was the only way he could think of to stop it from coming undone.
Wonder if he's still in jail?
This guy kept finding lost early Mormon documents and making big bucks. Until it started to unravel. Two critics got bombs. And as the police were investigating he blew himself up but not lethally.
Turns out he had been forging all these documents. And bombing was the only way he could think of to stop it from coming undone.
Wonder if he's still in jail?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (flYWz)
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From what I've observed, murderous bombers consider themselves masterminds, intellectually superior to the rest of us. Unabomber Ted Koszinski appears to be representative of the breed.
Posted by: troyriser at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (K8f5g)
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (/ikqi)
251
some folks fall into the lefts' world view of "all cons are like that" but "not all X are like that"
who cares what this guy thought. if he was that political, he wouldn't have killed himself but did what mcveigh did and yell about his beliefs (right?).
who cares what this guy thought. if he was that political, he wouldn't have killed himself but did what mcveigh did and yell about his beliefs (right?).
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (DQC26)
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Police: "Have you seen anything strange or unusual lately? Anybody seem suspicious?"
FedEx Store Worker: "Well there was this one guy in an evil professor wig with a hat pulled down close to his eyes, wearing gloves and carefully handling a package like it was going to blow up. But, nah, nothing unusual."
FedEx Store Worker: "Well there was this one guy in an evil professor wig with a hat pulled down close to his eyes, wearing gloves and carefully handling a package like it was going to blow up. But, nah, nothing unusual."
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (VpIIl)
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236 people aren't really as observant, decisive, and proactive as one might like.
This is why I they should give us badges and fly us over during one of these things.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (8rNrN)
AceForceOne
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (yL25O)
I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
This is why I they should give us badges and fly us over during one of these things.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:22 PM (8rNrN)
AceForceOne
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (yL25O)
I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs)
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So, when can we expect the high school walk-outs over bombings?
What? Is there selective compassion for crime victims? Or did George Soros cut off the funding?
What? Is there selective compassion for crime victims? Or did George Soros cut off the funding?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (ATVNj)
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-- Mostly likely a local resident (DUH he hand delivered the first three bombs to the houses)
--
That is what makes me think there is another guy out there. Putting exploding packages into commercial package delivery service is really, really stupid. And using your own credit card, and automobile to boot.
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That is what makes me think there is another guy out there. Putting exploding packages into commercial package delivery service is really, really stupid. And using your own credit card, and automobile to boot.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (roQNm)
256
The old fortune tellers trick make some extremely easy guesses and then claim how skillful you are.
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yeah, I was thinking the same thing. just a con.
The old fortune tellers trick make some extremely easy guesses and then claim how skillful you are.
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yeah, I was thinking the same thing. just a con.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (DQC26)
257
Well, it certainly is a strange time in America.
America is always becoming something or moving toward something..
It looks to be moving towards insanity.
America is always becoming something or moving toward something..
It looks to be moving towards insanity.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (UfMVm)
258
How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
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Necrophilia?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM
threadwinner
How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
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Necrophilia?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:15 PM
threadwinner
Posted by: Hands at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (EzdLW)
259
ooh libertarian, so he probably believes in abortion.
because they only count one humans right .
because they only count one humans right .
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (/ikqi)
260
k , nevermind , shuts up.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (/ikqi)
261
Reports say found using his Google searches.
So Google is death to anyone with 2A leanings, or proTrump, or in short, those of the moron pursuasion.
So Google is death to anyone with 2A leanings, or proTrump, or in short, those of the moron pursuasion.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (5OEn4)
262
Probably best to portray him as someone who had some conservative or libertarian leanings. But not Christian; Mormon, to the extent he had any religious beliefs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (39g3+)
263
We're looking at Greenville and Spartanburg. Somebody tell me now if that's a mistake.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (VpIIl)
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Nice areas so long as you aren't smack-dab in the cities. Unless that's your thing. For now 30 minutes every direction is some pleasant rural country.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (VpIIl)
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Nice areas so long as you aren't smack-dab in the cities. Unless that's your thing. For now 30 minutes every direction is some pleasant rural country.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (JTMqu)
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>>>This is why I they should give us badges and fly us over during one of these things
don't forget your luminol and uv light.
don't forget your luminol and uv light.
Posted by: concrete girl at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (N0sw0)
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Home-schooling is great, but some do get too isolated imo. It makes sense to want the strong Christian upbringing AND education. But being able to confront the real world is also part of the deal.
Seems clear if this guy didn't have real issues at 18, perhaps some big events changed him as he got out on his own, maybe didn't fit in with co-workers? And the idealism of youth ... that is peak "I want to make a difference" time, and peak "not ready for major decisions" time.
Culture clash, bad outcome ... obviously the story is 'what happened in those six years'?
Seems clear if this guy didn't have real issues at 18, perhaps some big events changed him as he got out on his own, maybe didn't fit in with co-workers? And the idealism of youth ... that is peak "I want to make a difference" time, and peak "not ready for major decisions" time.
Culture clash, bad outcome ... obviously the story is 'what happened in those six years'?
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (bT8Z4)
266
Good thing we don't have a constitutional right to own nail bombs.
Wait. The Army still has mines.
COMMON SENSE CLAYMORE CONTROL NOW!!!!!!!!
Wait. The Army still has mines.
COMMON SENSE CLAYMORE CONTROL NOW!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sharkman at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (+BKF+)
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165 His grandmother in Colorado says he was a loving guy from a tight knit family. Peaceful young guy.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (ptqGC)
So what was he like?
"Quiet kept to himself."
But he killed Buckwheat.
"Oh, he always said he was going to kill Buckwheat; otherwise he was quiet."
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM (ptqGC)
So what was he like?
"Quiet kept to himself."
But he killed Buckwheat.
"Oh, he always said he was going to kill Buckwheat; otherwise he was quiet."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Use Misery Marinade for Your Next BBQ! at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (hLRSq)
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I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs)
I've never shot a dog ...
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs)
I've never shot a dog ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (yv6t0)
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You'd think the chin strap on the wig would've tipped someone off, but Noooooo.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (4ErVI)
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Yeah look. We're bad wig central here in Austin and I'm being serious. The idea that you would actually be safer hiding as a bad guy wearing a bad trans disguise than a good theatrical disguise is a societal fact here.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (4ErVI)
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Yeah look. We're bad wig central here in Austin and I'm being serious. The idea that you would actually be safer hiding as a bad guy wearing a bad trans disguise than a good theatrical disguise is a societal fact here.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (yL25O)
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New federal law: You must be over 21 and have a background check to use FedEx.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (ATVNj)
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268 I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs)
I've never shot a dog ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (yv6t0)
See, you're one up on them already!
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs)
I've never shot a dog ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (yv6t0)
See, you're one up on them already!
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (NWiLs)
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From what I've observed, murderous bombers consider themselves masterminds, intellectually superior to the rest of us. Unabomber Ted Koszinski appears to be representative of the breed.
There's also He Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned On This Blog.
There's also He Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned On This Blog.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (oVJmc)
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Re: the "exotic" batteries. Don't read too much into that. He perhaps got bomb plans off the web, from our little buddies the jihadis. Not wanting to screw up the design, he goes with the original model of battery.
Posted by: Surellin at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (dHQbf)
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Wonder if he's still in jail?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (flYWz)
Mark Hofmann and yep he's still in prison.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (flYWz)
Mark Hofmann and yep he's still in prison.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (4ErVI)
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Please, don't tell me "Keep [ ] Weird" is a thing in Austin now, too. That used to be battle cry in Berkeley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM
It may not be the original, but it's been here for a long time, probably predating even the Armadillo World Headquarters.
You can buy tie-dyed T-Shirts with "Keep Austin Weird" in the airport.
Sadly, you don't see "Keep Georgetown Normal" t-shirts and bumper stickers very much anymore. (Georgetown is approximately 30 miles north of Austin)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM
It may not be the original, but it's been here for a long time, probably predating even the Armadillo World Headquarters.
You can buy tie-dyed T-Shirts with "Keep Austin Weird" in the airport.
Sadly, you don't see "Keep Georgetown Normal" t-shirts and bumper stickers very much anymore. (Georgetown is approximately 30 miles north of Austin)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (ctuyM)
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You'd think the chin strap on the wig would've tipped someone off, but Noooooo.
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has anyone here ever worked in retail and interacted with the general public? fucking weirdos out there
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has anyone here ever worked in retail and interacted with the general public? fucking weirdos out there
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (DQC26)
277
Wait. Buckwheat is dead?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (ATVNj)
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262 Probably best to portray him as someone who had some conservative or libertarian leanings. But not Christian; Mormon, to the extent he had any religious beliefs.
Nope... Christian ,Trump lovin' racist , Gay hatin' Conservative!
Nope... Christian ,Trump lovin' racist , Gay hatin' Conservative!
Posted by: CNN at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (O2RFr)
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AFTER having mind control experiments done on him by the government.
Posted by: rickb223
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Yea, I definitely think the CIA has blood on their hands for that.
What the government did with things like MK Ultra to innocent people makes the conspiracy theories Alex Jones is throwing around seem pretty tame.
I think conservatives turned a blind eye to these agencies and what they did because they were perceived as being in our tribe.
Posted by: rickb223
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Yea, I definitely think the CIA has blood on their hands for that.
What the government did with things like MK Ultra to innocent people makes the conspiracy theories Alex Jones is throwing around seem pretty tame.
I think conservatives turned a blind eye to these agencies and what they did because they were perceived as being in our tribe.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (lKmt3)
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Whitey Bulger (the inspiration for the Jack Nicholson character in The Departed) also got lots of LSD while in prison as part the CIA program MKUltra. He did it to get his sentence cut.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (n+6mJ)
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We're looking at Greenville and Spartanburg. Somebody tell me now if that's a mistake.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (VpIIl)
Greenville is beautiful. My dad moved us there (his hometown) when he retired from the AF.
Getting pricier and pricier though.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (VpIIl)
Greenville is beautiful. My dad moved us there (his hometown) when he retired from the AF.
Getting pricier and pricier though.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (ptqGC)
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We do not know the motive and will never know the motive because there was no motive. He just wanted to kill as many people as he could because he could.
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call me crazy. You'd be right. But I think there's something up on LV.
First, the guy used multiple long guns with bump stocks and the media NEVER TALKS about LV anymore. Its right in the wheelhouse of the gun control narrative. Nothing.
Something is up with that one.
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call me crazy. You'd be right. But I think there's something up on LV.
First, the guy used multiple long guns with bump stocks and the media NEVER TALKS about LV anymore. Its right in the wheelhouse of the gun control narrative. Nothing.
Something is up with that one.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (TX8Oe)
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The 'conservative' stuff was from years ago. When he was 17 and still being homeschooled. We have no idea if those were his current thoughts at all. I would not want someone comparing what I believed at 17 to what I believed at 24.
Posted by: K-E at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (xGAJ0)
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ooh libertarian, so he probably believes in abortion.
because they only count one humans right .
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (/ikqi)
24 year old "libertarian" = dope smoker. Until proven otherwise, I think we've found the extent of his politics.
because they only count one humans right .
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (/ikqi)
24 year old "libertarian" = dope smoker. Until proven otherwise, I think we've found the extent of his politics.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (9chmE)
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"--Nice areas so long as you aren't smack-dab
in the cities. Unless that's your thing. For now 30 minutes every
direction is some pleasant rural country.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (JTMqu)"Thank God- and no to the city. I want room to shoot my guns :-)
in the cities. Unless that's your thing. For now 30 minutes every
direction is some pleasant rural country.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (JTMqu)"Thank God- and no to the city. I want room to shoot my guns :-)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (VpIIl)
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I'm a little boggled that FedEx didn't call 911 when
you have an active bomber in the area and someone comes in wearing
gloves, hat, and a wig.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
Perhaps they did, and that was the break in the case.
you have an active bomber in the area and someone comes in wearing
gloves, hat, and a wig.
Keep Austin Weird yo but c'mon. That was so, so obvious.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:17 PM (yL25O)
Perhaps they did, and that was the break in the case.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (Dbv1R)
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Up here in the hinterlands of a Wisconsin, a guy blew himself up in his apartment building a bomb. The FBI tried a "controlled" explosion in his apartment to get rid of the rest of the chemicals. Didn't work. They had to burn the whole building down. As soon as the fire was out, memory holed. Assholes.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (KP5rU)
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off fat drunk and stupid sock
Posted by: simplemind at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (gKrl3)
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Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (bT8Z4)
Speculating - but homeschooling could have been because that was the last option he was left with after being expelled.
*speculating on all of that*
Speculating - but homeschooling could have been because that was the last option he was left with after being expelled.
*speculating on all of that*
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Use Misery Marinade for Your Next BBQ! at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (hLRSq)
290
I gotta agree with Ace.
Whenever I see something crazy, weird, or totally out of place and I ask other people -
'Did you see that!?'
It is very rare for someone else to reply in the affirmative. Most people are well inside their own bubbles.
Whenever I see something crazy, weird, or totally out of place and I ask other people -
'Did you see that!?'
It is very rare for someone else to reply in the affirmative. Most people are well inside their own bubbles.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (ia5FY)
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I think Asheville, NC has it as xits official motto.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (JTMqu)
Christ.
Asheville was one of the places we've been thinking about fleeing to when I'm not tied here by family.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (JTMqu)
Christ.
Asheville was one of the places we've been thinking about fleeing to when I'm not tied here by family.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)
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So Google is death to anyone with 2A leanings, or proTrump, or in short, those of the moron pursuasion.
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Youtube just banned gun manufacturers and instructional gun video - via instapundit link to the federalist.
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Youtube just banned gun manufacturers and instructional gun video - via instapundit link to the federalist.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (roQNm)
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Oh and they only caught him because he asked a co-worker at McDonald's
to hold onto a gun for safe keeping and the co-worker called the cops.
That's not a slam on the cops, by the way. In that case there was
barely any evidence from which they could start an investigation.
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The general public shouldn't think too long on how common that method of crimes being solved really is.
to hold onto a gun for safe keeping and the co-worker called the cops.
That's not a slam on the cops, by the way. In that case there was
barely any evidence from which they could start an investigation.
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The general public shouldn't think too long on how common that method of crimes being solved really is.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (JTMqu)
294
That is what makes me think there is another guy out there. Putting exploding packages into commercial package delivery service is really, really stupid. And using your own credit card, and automobile to boot.
Agreed. To me, it feels like this guy was a copycat, and the original porch bomber is still at large.
Agreed. To me, it feels like this guy was a copycat, and the original porch bomber is still at large.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (gm9yG)
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My friendsh, you have nothing to fear from a man claiming to be conservative.
Posted by: John McCain at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (bJ0w+)
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There's also He Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned On This Blog.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (oVJmc)
That's why I didn't mention Our Own Little Voldemort, although he was first to come to mind.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (oVJmc)
That's why I didn't mention Our Own Little Voldemort, although he was first to come to mind.
Posted by: troyriser at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (K8f5g)
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (ia5FY)
298
Every family of every psycho murderer says this. For once, I'd like to hear something like,
"Yeah, our son Bob always was a complete asshole who hated everyone. We knew he had a screw loose, so when we heard that he dynamited an orphanage and killed 43 kids, we're not surprised."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (wHMIo)
Me too!
"And I'd like to buy a drink for whoever blew his shit away. He DSAF."
"Yeah, our son Bob always was a complete asshole who hated everyone. We knew he had a screw loose, so when we heard that he dynamited an orphanage and killed 43 kids, we're not surprised."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (wHMIo)
Me too!
"And I'd like to buy a drink for whoever blew his shit away. He DSAF."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (inyex)
299
Asheville was one of the places we've been thinking about fleeing to when I'm not tied here by family.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)
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Like I wrote upthread, there's decent stuff around if you get away from the cities, interstates, and resort communities.
Asheville was one of the places we've been thinking about fleeing to when I'm not tied here by family.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)
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Like I wrote upthread, there's decent stuff around if you get away from the cities, interstates, and resort communities.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (JTMqu)
300
His grandmother in Colorado says he was a loving guy from a tight knit family. Peaceful young guy.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM
"He was a good boy, a very good boy..."
- Granny Dindunuffin
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM
"He was a good boy, a very good boy..."
- Granny Dindunuffin
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (p+Wdc)
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"Greenville is beautiful. My dad moved us there (his hometown) when he retired from the AF.
Getting pricier and pricier though.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (ptqGC)
"
Thanks. It is absolutely a gorgeous area. Quiet, rural, fantastic people. Everything New York State isn't anymore.
Getting pricier and pricier though.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (ptqGC)
"
Thanks. It is absolutely a gorgeous area. Quiet, rural, fantastic people. Everything New York State isn't anymore.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (VpIIl)
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297 >>Wait. Buckwheat is dead?
Leglock got him.
Choked to death by Demi Moore.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (ia5FY)
So my joke still has ... uh ... legs?
Leglock got him.
Choked to death by Demi Moore.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (ia5FY)
So my joke still has ... uh ... legs?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (inyex)
303
Blowed-up Kid kinda reminds me of a young Bill Ayers.
Posted by: Roy at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (7n4KQ)
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Turns out he had been forging all these documents. And bombing was the only way he could think of to stop it from coming undone.
Wonder if he's still in jail?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (flYWz)
...
Remember the cyanide laced Tylenol?
That lady poisoned her own husband, then laced Tylenol with cyanide and killed two more people to make it look like he was just one of three random victims.
Wonder if he's still in jail?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (flYWz)
...
Remember the cyanide laced Tylenol?
That lady poisoned her own husband, then laced Tylenol with cyanide and killed two more people to make it look like he was just one of three random victims.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (yL25O)
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You'd think the chin strap on the wig would've tipped someone off, but Noooooo.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (4ErVI)
In fairness the city's unofficial motto is keep it weird Austin
You'd think the chin strap on the wig would've tipped someone off, but Noooooo.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:25 PM (4ErVI)
In fairness the city's unofficial motto is keep it weird Austin
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (lKyWE)
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Reports say found using his Google searches.
So Google is death to anyone with 2A leanings, or proTrump, or in short, those of the moron pursuasion.
Posted by: Les Kinetic
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That's my first thought as well.
Obviously on one hand I'm glad we caught this guy, but I guarantee you this is going to be pointed back at conservatives whenever it suits some political goal.
Sort of like when it came out Supreme Court nominee Bork rented dirty movies or whatever. That sort of thing will be weaponized against conservative lawmakers.
So Google is death to anyone with 2A leanings, or proTrump, or in short, those of the moron pursuasion.
Posted by: Les Kinetic
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That's my first thought as well.
Obviously on one hand I'm glad we caught this guy, but I guarantee you this is going to be pointed back at conservatives whenever it suits some political goal.
Sort of like when it came out Supreme Court nominee Bork rented dirty movies or whatever. That sort of thing will be weaponized against conservative lawmakers.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (lKmt3)
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How is one FOR the death penalty and AGAINST the sex offender registry?
I'm for the death penalty but I have concerns about the legality and logic of the sex offender registry. I mean, you get drunk and whiz against a wall, a kid walks by and now you're a sex offender for life?
If someone is a permanent monster and danger to children eternally, so much so they have to go around and alert everyone to their evil, maybe they should still be in jail??
I'm for the death penalty but I have concerns about the legality and logic of the sex offender registry. I mean, you get drunk and whiz against a wall, a kid walks by and now you're a sex offender for life?
If someone is a permanent monster and danger to children eternally, so much so they have to go around and alert everyone to their evil, maybe they should still be in jail??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (39g3+)
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Seems clear if this guy didn't have real issues at 18, perhaps some big events changed him as he got out on his own, maybe didn't fit in with co-workers?
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at lot of schizophrenia and bi polar stuff starts to surface in that age range.
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at lot of schizophrenia and bi polar stuff starts to surface in that age range.
Posted by: simplemind at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (gtKvj)
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"That lady poisoned her own husband, then laced Tylenol with cyanide and killed two more people to make it look like he was just one of three random victims."
the Speedway Bomber had the same M.O.
the Speedway Bomber had the same M.O.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (wd1mg)
310
Youtube just banned gun manufacturers and instructional gun video
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Holy crap. Videos encouraging safety and teaching people how to NOT shoot themselves are being removed.
Yay.
Youtube just banned gun manufacturers and instructional gun video
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Holy crap. Videos encouraging safety and teaching people how to NOT shoot themselves are being removed.
Yay.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (JTMqu)
311
I loved in Williamson county for a bit. Somwhat normal. Wouldn't bet on that now.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (89T5c)
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"They don't link to this blog, or even tell you where it was.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (oVJmc)"
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How convenient. That way they can claim anything they want and nobody can disprove it or question it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 12:59 PM (oVJmc)"
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How convenient. That way they can claim anything they want and nobody can disprove it or question it.
Posted by: Decaf at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (/3+Sg)
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The Palestinian Authority has doubled down in its attacks on US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, now accusing Friedman of anti-Semitism against Arabs - ignoring the fact that anti-Semitism has always referred to hatred of Jews in particular, to the exclusion of others claiming to be Semites.
Moderates?
Moderates?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (SjImc)
314
Youtube just banned gun manufacturers and instructional gun video - via instapundit link to the federalist.
I'm still seeing search results on 'shooting instruction.' And Remington is still up...
Youtube just banned gun manufacturers and instructional gun video - via instapundit link to the federalist.
I'm still seeing search results on 'shooting instruction.' And Remington is still up...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (oVJmc)
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>>>300 His grandmother in Colorado says he was a loving guy from a tight knit family. Peaceful young guy.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM
"He was a good boy, a very good boy..."
- Granny Dindunuffin
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (p+Wdc)
__________
Granny, you REALLY got around didn't ya?
Can you just give us a list off all your grandchildren? We'd like a copy...for reference.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM
"He was a good boy, a very good boy..."
- Granny Dindunuffin
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (p+Wdc)
__________
Granny, you REALLY got around didn't ya?
Can you just give us a list off all your grandchildren? We'd like a copy...for reference.
Posted by: Da Police at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (rNGKx)
316
289 Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (bT8Z4)
Speculating - but homeschooling could have been because that was the last option he was left with after being expelled.
*speculating on all of that*
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Use Misery Marinade for Your Next BBQ! at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (hLRSq)
I don't know how long he lived in Pflugerville but that's not where you want to send your kids to school.
Speculating - but homeschooling could have been because that was the last option he was left with after being expelled.
*speculating on all of that*
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Use Misery Marinade for Your Next BBQ! at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (hLRSq)
I don't know how long he lived in Pflugerville but that's not where you want to send your kids to school.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (woCRW)
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call me crazy. You'd be right. But I think there's something up on LV.
First, the guy used multiple long guns with bump stocks and the media NEVER TALKS about LV anymore. Its right in the wheelhouse of the gun control narrative. Nothing.
Something is up with that one.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (TX8Oe)
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Well, most of the victims were not members of a Leftist-Narrative-Approved Victim Class.
First, the guy used multiple long guns with bump stocks and the media NEVER TALKS about LV anymore. Its right in the wheelhouse of the gun control narrative. Nothing.
Something is up with that one.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 21, 2018 01:31 PM (TX8Oe)
>>>
Well, most of the victims were not members of a Leftist-Narrative-Approved Victim Class.
Posted by: Gref at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (AMIL/)
318
4chan is once again having a field day with this.
Remind me to never piss those people off. They make Google and federal law enforcement look like amateurs.
Remind me to never piss those people off. They make Google and federal law enforcement look like amateurs.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (VpIIl)
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look, the most important thing right now is that there is no anti-conservative backlash. Think of the poor little girls, riding the bus with a maga hat on being harassed by mean liberals. #IllRideWithYouMAGAgirl
#NotAllConservativesAreLikeThat
#NotAllConservativesAreLikeThat
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (DQC26)
320
murderous bombers consider themselves masterminds,
Super Genius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STeVTzWelns
Super Genius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STeVTzWelns
Posted by: DaveA at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (FhXTo)
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Teachable moment for the young students:
You see, no matter your laws say, there are evil people who want to kill. Even people who are your own age.
This isn't a problem created by the older generation. This is the human condition.
There will be murderers in your generation as well and those that will follow.
The point is this: If you can't stop people from killing, why would you want to take away the means to defend yourself?
Yes, that means the right to have a gun. It is not something the NRA thought up. It's something that has been necessary since the beginning of humankind.
You see, no matter your laws say, there are evil people who want to kill. Even people who are your own age.
This isn't a problem created by the older generation. This is the human condition.
There will be murderers in your generation as well and those that will follow.
The point is this: If you can't stop people from killing, why would you want to take away the means to defend yourself?
Yes, that means the right to have a gun. It is not something the NRA thought up. It's something that has been necessary since the beginning of humankind.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2018 01:36 PM (ATVNj)
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He was raised Christian:Mormon. He literally drops off the web after 2012 except for a scrubbed Facebook profile and pieces from his family's social media accounts.
Again with the 24/7/365 hatred, contempt, and blaming all evils on white Christian men in our society, are people really shocked that this would occur?
I'm shocked it has not occurred even more.
Again with the 24/7/365 hatred, contempt, and blaming all evils on white Christian men in our society, are people really shocked that this would occur?
I'm shocked it has not occurred even more.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:36 PM (8ceaY)
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Something is really wrong with a mom or granny who doesn't defend and love their child or grand child.
I wonder if he had a promising rap career and was about to turn his life around?
I wonder if he had a promising rap career and was about to turn his life around?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (39g3+)
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Please, don't tell me "Keep [ ] Weird" is a thing in Austin now, too. That used to be battle cry in Berkeley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM
It may not be the original, but it's been here for a long time, probably predating even the Armadillo World Headquarters.
It's disturbing first, because that was around in Berkeley 40 years ago, and second, because it suggests Austin is emulating Berkeley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:19 PM
It may not be the original, but it's been here for a long time, probably predating even the Armadillo World Headquarters.
It's disturbing first, because that was around in Berkeley 40 years ago, and second, because it suggests Austin is emulating Berkeley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (inyex)
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>>You'd think the chin strap on the wig would've tipped someone off, but Noooooo.
I'm guessing the Lefties/activists have been demanding that people respect a person's gender identity for years, and who are you to judge that obvious man in stripper stilettos, a leather mini and a hideous Marilyn Monroe wig?
You know, wouldn't want to appear all judgey 'n stuff by noticing and reporting some weirdness....
I'm guessing the Lefties/activists have been demanding that people respect a person's gender identity for years, and who are you to judge that obvious man in stripper stilettos, a leather mini and a hideous Marilyn Monroe wig?
You know, wouldn't want to appear all judgey 'n stuff by noticing and reporting some weirdness....
Posted by: Lizzy at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (LiyEm)
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I've never shot a dog ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (yv6t0)
*throws application into wastebasket*
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (yv6t0)
*throws application into wastebasket*
Posted by: Police Department HR Administrator at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (pAx+1)
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Yeah look. We're bad wig central here in Austin and I'm being serious. The idea that you would actually be safer hiding as a bad guy wearing a bad trans disguise than a good theatrical disguise is a societal fact here.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (yL25O)
Heh. Putting out an APB for Judy Garland...
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (yL25O)
Heh. Putting out an APB for Judy Garland...
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (4ErVI)
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I'm in Greenville. It's nice and it's full of migrants, though the vast majority seem to have self-selected for political reasons, which is not necessarily a bad thing. If you need more info and a tour email me at executive.outcomes.za at google dot com
Be happy to talk on the phone as well.
Be happy to talk on the phone as well.
Posted by: John Joseph Cass at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (S4fhN)
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"Agreed. To me, it feels like this guy was a copycat, and the original porch bomber is still at large."
The main argument against that possibility is that, fortunately, people who are willing to kill other people at random, and for no particular benefit to themselves, are still pretty rare.
The main argument against that possibility is that, fortunately, people who are willing to kill other people at random, and for no particular benefit to themselves, are still pretty rare.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (k1TUh)
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We may never know the true story... So we'll make one up
Posted by: CNN at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (O2RFr)
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In Charlottesville? Didn't it turn out that the girl died of a heart attack or something? Not the car?
Posted by: free tibet at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (xDk+1)
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A. I never heard that.
B. When people are seriously injured, many times a heart attack will result. That doesn't mean the serious injury wasn't the act that caused the death.
Posted by: free tibet at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (xDk+1)
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A. I never heard that.
B. When people are seriously injured, many times a heart attack will result. That doesn't mean the serious injury wasn't the act that caused the death.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (pvjTE)
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The youtube ban is apparently on one guy's account, Spike's Tactical.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (oVJmc)
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I'm for the death penalty but I have concerns about the legality and logic of the sex offender registry. I mean, you get drunk and whiz against a wall, a kid walks by and now you're a sex offender for life?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (39g3+)
Or some 14-year-old kid who gets busted for having a nude pic of his 13-year-old girlfriend on his phone. Possession of child pornography! You're on the sex offender registry for the rest of your life, bucko!
The law is an ass.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (39g3+)
Or some 14-year-old kid who gets busted for having a nude pic of his 13-year-old girlfriend on his phone. Possession of child pornography! You're on the sex offender registry for the rest of your life, bucko!
The law is an ass.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (wHMIo)
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I think the dude was seriously pissed off that he lived in a place called Pflugerville.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (ATVNj)
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Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (lKmt3)
That was Justice Thomas that rented the movies.
That was Justice Thomas that rented the movies.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (woCRW)
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i guess i'm as confused about what a conservative is anyway.
i always tied it to self sufficiency, not asking others to pay for my stuff, unless i 'work it'. and sanctity to an individual life, (small or large) while being able to defend myself legally.
oh and a weaker/less invasive govt. actual Free speech. and hmm.
i always tied it to self sufficiency, not asking others to pay for my stuff, unless i 'work it'. and sanctity to an individual life, (small or large) while being able to defend myself legally.
oh and a weaker/less invasive govt. actual Free speech. and hmm.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (/ikqi)
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (ia5FY)
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Why label him as white? Could he have been part Asian? Dr. No didn't look Asian but he was.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (/qEW2)
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Police: "Have you seen anything strange or unusual lately? Anybody seem suspicious?"
FedEx Store Worker: "Well there was this one guy in an evil professor wig with a hat pulled down close to his eyes, wearing gloves and carefully handling a package like it was going to blow up. But, nah, nothing unusual."
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (VpIIl)
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I guess you've never been to Austin. It's as leftard as San Fancisco. It's not unusual to see the ultimate in mental illness and degredation there.
FedEx Store Worker: "Well there was this one guy in an evil professor wig with a hat pulled down close to his eyes, wearing gloves and carefully handling a package like it was going to blow up. But, nah, nothing unusual."
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (VpIIl)
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I guess you've never been to Austin. It's as leftard as San Fancisco. It's not unusual to see the ultimate in mental illness and degredation there.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (Fs5vw)
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I always get a kick out of the "Keep Austin (or Wherever) Weird" stuff.
All it means to me is "Keep Austin Chic." Make sure we perfectly conform to the tastes and opinions of the Ruling Class.
Waco --- I mean Koresh's group --- was weird.
Hey, even Liberty University is weird.
Austin is the same old, same old.
All it means to me is "Keep Austin Chic." Make sure we perfectly conform to the tastes and opinions of the Ruling Class.
Waco --- I mean Koresh's group --- was weird.
Hey, even Liberty University is weird.
Austin is the same old, same old.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (0jtPF)
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>>>That is what makes me think there is another guy out there. Putting exploding packages into commercial package delivery service is really, really stupid. And using your own credit card, and automobile to boot.
Agreed. To me, it feels like this guy was a copycat, and the original porch bomber is still at large.
...
guys, police have confirmed that all the bombs, the porch ones and the FedEx ones, had marked similarities.
I think you're ignoring something that seems too obvious to you, and looking for something more clever. He changed his modus operandi because the streets were flooded with cops and he no longer felt safe walking around with a bomb late at night.
Agreed. To me, it feels like this guy was a copycat, and the original porch bomber is still at large.
...
guys, police have confirmed that all the bombs, the porch ones and the FedEx ones, had marked similarities.
I think you're ignoring something that seems too obvious to you, and looking for something more clever. He changed his modus operandi because the streets were flooded with cops and he no longer felt safe walking around with a bomb late at night.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (8rNrN)
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315 >>>300 His grandmother in Colorado says he was a loving guy from a tight knit family. Peaceful young guy.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM
"He was a good boy, a very good boy..."
- Granny Dindunuffin
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (p+Wdc)
Aspiring rapper?
https://tinyurl.com/yb6oczhv
Link is to CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:16 PM
"He was a good boy, a very good boy..."
- Granny Dindunuffin
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2018 01:33 PM (p+Wdc)
Aspiring rapper?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (inyex)
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4chan is once again having a field day with this.
Remind me to never piss those people off. They make Google and federal law enforcement look like amateurs.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (VpIIl)
i know right! lmro
Remind me to never piss those people off. They make Google and federal law enforcement look like amateurs.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:35 PM (VpIIl)
i know right! lmro
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (/ikqi)
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244 In fairness to FedEx, the bomber had not sent anything by mail up until that point. And there are a lot of weird-looking folks in Austin. If you called the fuzz everytime you saw someone looking or behaving odd, the circuits would melt.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (ckk1c)
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Okay, but maybe make an exception when there is an actual active bomber?
We have a friend who got some training in the profiles on these guys in law enforcement or somewhere.
One of the things they like to do is prove they have skills to build all sorts of different bombs, and this guy seemed to be doing that.
Hand delivered packages, then tripwire.
Then he mails some. You would think package carriers would know that one of the known profiles of bombers is to try to get a hat trick of all the different bomb types, so to be on alert even if the bomber hasn't mailed one yet.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 01:28 PM (ckk1c)
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Okay, but maybe make an exception when there is an actual active bomber?
We have a friend who got some training in the profiles on these guys in law enforcement or somewhere.
One of the things they like to do is prove they have skills to build all sorts of different bombs, and this guy seemed to be doing that.
Hand delivered packages, then tripwire.
Then he mails some. You would think package carriers would know that one of the known profiles of bombers is to try to get a hat trick of all the different bomb types, so to be on alert even if the bomber hasn't mailed one yet.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (yL25O)
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The problem with the sex-registry list is all the male public urinators. Perhaps, to be more accurate, the lack of trees for which one can obscure themselves from view.
#PlantATreeStayOffTheList
#BringBackJohnnyAppleseed
The problem with the sex-registry list is all the male public urinators. Perhaps, to be more accurate, the lack of trees for which one can obscure themselves from view.
#PlantATreeStayOffTheList
#BringBackJohnnyAppleseed
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (LOgQ4)
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degradation
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (Fs5vw)
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Coworker yesterday was all freaked out and kept babbling about a customer.
The customer wanted a fishing license and produced something with a photo state issued. It read SEX OFFENDER on the card.
Told him it had happened to me and asked what he did, he said he told the customer it wasn't valid.
Some of these sickos have no shame. Trying to use a card that says SEX OFFENDER to get a fishing license as if its not bloody weird.
The customer wanted a fishing license and produced something with a photo state issued. It read SEX OFFENDER on the card.
Told him it had happened to me and asked what he did, he said he told the customer it wasn't valid.
Some of these sickos have no shame. Trying to use a card that says SEX OFFENDER to get a fishing license as if its not bloody weird.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (flYWz)
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just because it's simple doesn't mean it's wrong...
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (8ceaY)
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It's sort of scary to think what an organized, foreign power could do if they really wanted to derail the United States.
Can you imagine hundreds of packages going out like this? It really wouldn't be hard to have a cell here doing something like that and completely shut down commerce.
Can you imagine hundreds of packages going out like this? It really wouldn't be hard to have a cell here doing something like that and completely shut down commerce.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (lKmt3)
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Youtube...
These companies just need to put up a ToS that says they're going to remove anything that liberals are butthurt over on any given day.
These companies just need to put up a ToS that says they're going to remove anything that liberals are butthurt over on any given day.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2018 01:39 PM (4ErVI)
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It's disturbing first, because that was around in Berkeley 40 years ago, and second, because it suggests Austin is emulating Berkeley."
It's why the rest of Texas hates Austin, and why Austin hates the rest of Texas. And it's why the city government and the State Government fight with each other so much.
It's why the rest of Texas hates Austin, and why Austin hates the rest of Texas. And it's why the city government and the State Government fight with each other so much.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (k1TUh)
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>>>has anyone here ever worked in retail and interacted with the general public? fucking weirdos out there
See's !
See's !
Posted by: concrete girl at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (N0sw0)
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (8rNrN)
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A self identified conservative killing people is like finding the philosopher's stone for the MFM. They will turn it into gold or die trying.
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (nBr1j)
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oh and a weaker/less invasive govt. actual Free speech. and hmm.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (/ikqi)
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When I first read that I thought it said "and ham," and I was in complete agreement.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (/ikqi)
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When I first read that I thought it said "and ham," and I was in complete agreement.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (JTMqu)
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Asheville was one of the places we've been thinking about fleeing to when I'm not tied here by family.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)----------------------------
Mike Hammer lives in the area. Yeah, it's gone full-blown Prog Central. Gorgeous town and area.
Asheville was one of the places we've been thinking about fleeing to when I'm not tied here by family.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)----------------------------
Mike Hammer lives in the area. Yeah, it's gone full-blown Prog Central. Gorgeous town and area.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (8rNrN)
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>> He changed his modus operandi because the streets were flooded with cops and he no longer felt safe walking around with a bomb late at night.
I drop the majority of my bombs off in the morning.
I drop the majority of my bombs off in the morning.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (ia5FY)
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Re: "One possibility is that the batteries he used in his bombs were "exotic." Maybe they're batteries people use in some kind of tech associated with younger people. Maybe they batteries are only advertised in, say, video gamer magazines, which would mostly skew younger."
My money would be on "vape" (vaporizer) batteries. He in the vaping demographic, and vaping is huge down here (I am in Austin).
From google: "Best 18650 Battery. Up to 20A LG HG2 18650 3000mAh 20A $9.95 LG is a trusted brand and with the LG HG2 the brand has managed to maximize both amperage and capacity."
My money would be on "vape" (vaporizer) batteries. He in the vaping demographic, and vaping is huge down here (I am in Austin).
From google: "Best 18650 Battery. Up to 20A LG HG2 18650 3000mAh 20A $9.95 LG is a trusted brand and with the LG HG2 the brand has managed to maximize both amperage and capacity."
Posted by: massideas at March 21, 2018 01:41 PM (2d4WZ)
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If Conditt was on a sex offender list, one would think that it would have been leaked out already. But it's still early.
Posted by: Hands at March 21, 2018 01:41 PM (EzdLW)
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Youtube goes all in against gun videoes
Well, not all *that* all in, because demolition ranch is still there.
Well, not all *that* all in, because demolition ranch is still there.
Posted by: GMan at March 21, 2018 01:41 PM (sxq57)
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He changed his modus operandi because the streets were flooded with cops
ace at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (8rNrN)
I can accept that.
He changed his modus operandi because the streets were flooded with cops
ace at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (8rNrN)
I can accept that.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:41 PM (roQNm)
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The age 20-30 was profiled because the profiler knew that people in that age group believed the system and society was broken.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (8ceaY)
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363 If Conditt was on a sex offender list, one would think that it would have been leaked out already. But it's still early.
Too busy right now looking for a MAGA hat
Too busy right now looking for a MAGA hat
Posted by: It's me donna at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (O2RFr)
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and he no longer felt safe walking around with a bomb late at night.
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This is my new favorite line.
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This is my new favorite line.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (JTMqu)
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It's disturbing first, because that was around in Berkeley 40 years ago, and second, because it suggests Austin is emulating Berkeley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Bing keep austin weird. Follow to wiki.
Slogan was adopted in 2000 and then trademarked.
No mention of bezerkley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Bing keep austin weird. Follow to wiki.
Slogan was adopted in 2000 and then trademarked.
No mention of bezerkley.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (l/Pix)
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>>has anyone here ever worked in retail and interacted with the general public? fucking weirdos out there
I always tell people that if they want a good slice of Humanity, all of it, go pay your bills in person.
Warter, Power, Gas...whatever.
Like the Director's Cut of the DMV.
I always tell people that if they want a good slice of Humanity, all of it, go pay your bills in person.
Warter, Power, Gas...whatever.
Like the Director's Cut of the DMV.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (ia5FY)
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i wonder if He had an original victim and expounded upon trying to cover his tracks.
i still cannot get my head around killing random strangers.
ok, i can't get my head around killing anyone, unless they were going to kill me.
i still cannot get my head around killing random strangers.
ok, i can't get my head around killing anyone, unless they were going to kill me.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (/ikqi)
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Some of these sickos have no shame. Trying to use a card that says SEX OFFENDER to get a fishing license as if its not bloody weird.
_________________________________
Wait. Does that mean I can't fish anymore?
_________________________________
Wait. Does that mean I can't fish anymore?
Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (ATVNj)
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If they find SCARY GUNZ in his house, the media will have seizures.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (ptqGC)
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"I guess you've never been to Austin. It's as
leftard as San Fancisco. It's not unusual to see the ultimate in mental
illness and degredation there.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (Fs5vw)
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lol. I have family in the Austin area. But they are definitely not liberal.
leftard as San Fancisco. It's not unusual to see the ultimate in mental
illness and degredation there.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM (Fs5vw)
"
lol. I have family in the Austin area. But they are definitely not liberal.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (VpIIl)
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i guess i'm as confused about what a conservative is anyway.
i always tied it to self sufficiency, not asking others to pay for my stuff, unless i 'work it'. and sanctity to an individual life, (small or large) while being able to defend myself legally.
oh and a weaker/less invasive govt. actual Free speech. and hmm.
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and then there's the sanctimonious hunstmans "I thought conservatism meant free trade but my party left me (translation: open borders nutjob)" or Sam Donaldson's "I thought conservatism meant balancing the budget, spending only what you earned (translation: raise taxes bigly)".
i always tied it to self sufficiency, not asking others to pay for my stuff, unless i 'work it'. and sanctity to an individual life, (small or large) while being able to defend myself legally.
oh and a weaker/less invasive govt. actual Free speech. and hmm.
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and then there's the sanctimonious hunstmans "I thought conservatism meant free trade but my party left me (translation: open borders nutjob)" or Sam Donaldson's "I thought conservatism meant balancing the budget, spending only what you earned (translation: raise taxes bigly)".
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (DQC26)
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334 The youtube ban is apparently on one guy's account, Spike's Tactical.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (oVJmc)
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Spike's print ads used to, and maybe still say, "Hillary should be in prison" in fine print at the bottom.
Give them some love if you're shopping for AR stuff.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (oVJmc)
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Spike's print ads used to, and maybe still say, "Hillary should be in prison" in fine print at the bottom.
Give them some love if you're shopping for AR stuff.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (yL25O)
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Just glad he didn't purpose mailing any bomb that might be going by air.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (Fs5vw)
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If someone is a permanent monster and danger to children eternally, so much so they have to go around and alert everyone to their evil, maybe they should still be in jail??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (39g3+)
Contrast that with the reality of the political pressure to reduce sentences and parole even violent felons early because that's how "enlightened" Europe does things.
The left isn't keen on discussing recidivisum rates in general, but I think even they understand that there are people that warrant additional caution after release.
I agree that being overly broad in classification is a bad thing though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:34 PM (39g3+)
Contrast that with the reality of the political pressure to reduce sentences and parole even violent felons early because that's how "enlightened" Europe does things.
The left isn't keen on discussing recidivisum rates in general, but I think even they understand that there are people that warrant additional caution after release.
I agree that being overly broad in classification is a bad thing though.
Posted by: Sjg at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (gDSJf)
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I may not shop at WalMart often, but when I do, I always take my SEX OFFENDER card. Don't leave home without it.
I may not shop at WalMart often, but when I do, I always take my SEX OFFENDER card. Don't leave home without it.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (LOgQ4)
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For me conservative means someone who delights in and wants to conserve the ideals and principles which founded this nation and which built it into the most powerful, wealthiest, and beneficial country in human history. The concepts of a virtuous people, love of family, embrace of liberty, and a government limited to specific and critical tasks -- and no more.
That's what conservative means to me.
That's what conservative means to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (39g3+)
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>>>The age 20-30 was profiled because the profiler knew that people in that age group believed the system and society was broken.
who doesn't these days? But he didn't act with any obvious political motive so why would anyone think he was acting in reaction to a broken society?
who doesn't these days? But he didn't act with any obvious political motive so why would anyone think he was acting in reaction to a broken society?
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (8rNrN)
382
Austin cannot be as bad as SF - honestly, I don't think there is a city in the US that has reached that level of disgusting-ness.
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (a0IVu)
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Every family of every psycho murderer says this. For once, I'd like to hear something like,
"Yeah, our son Bob always was a complete asshole who hated everyone. We knew he had a screw loose, so when we heard that he dynamited an orphanage and killed 43 kids, we're not surprised."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (wHMIo)
Me too!
"And I'd like to buy a drink for whoever blew his shit away. He DSAF."
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I vaguely remember one a few years ago, either the perp's father or grandfather, when asked, basically said the guy was a nutjob, loser, etc.
"Yeah, our son Bob always was a complete asshole who hated everyone. We knew he had a screw loose, so when we heard that he dynamited an orphanage and killed 43 kids, we're not surprised."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:21 PM (wHMIo)
Me too!
"And I'd like to buy a drink for whoever blew his shit away. He DSAF."
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I vaguely remember one a few years ago, either the perp's father or grandfather, when asked, basically said the guy was a nutjob, loser, etc.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (vg8iE)
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366 The age 20-30 was profiled because the profiler knew that people in that age group believed the system and society was broken.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (8ceaY)
You don't have to go that far. Ages 15-30 are the sweet spot of the Wonder Years for crime. Bomb building would move up the lower end a bit, so 20-30 was probably the safest bet on the planet.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (8ceaY)
You don't have to go that far. Ages 15-30 are the sweet spot of the Wonder Years for crime. Bomb building would move up the lower end a bit, so 20-30 was probably the safest bet on the planet.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (inyex)
385
For me conservative means someone who delights in and wants to conserve
the ideals and principles which founded this nation and which built it
into the most powerful, wealthiest, and beneficial country in human
history. The concepts of a virtuous people, love of family, embrace of
liberty, and a government limited to specific and critical tasks -- and
no more.
That's what conservative means to me.
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This, plus ham.
the ideals and principles which founded this nation and which built it
into the most powerful, wealthiest, and beneficial country in human
history. The concepts of a virtuous people, love of family, embrace of
liberty, and a government limited to specific and critical tasks -- and
no more.
That's what conservative means to me.
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This, plus ham.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (JTMqu)
386
>>The age 20-30 was profiled because the profiler knew that people in that age group believed the system and society was broken.
>>who doesn't these days?
Says the 29 year old.
>>who doesn't these days?
Says the 29 year old.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (ia5FY)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (r+sAi)
388
I wuz serious.
The Sex Offender customer I dealt with was one of these grain fed good ol boys out of the deep piney woods. My coworker's 'customer' was a scrawny short guy, should have asked if he looked like Woody Allen.
The Sex Offender customer I dealt with was one of these grain fed good ol boys out of the deep piney woods. My coworker's 'customer' was a scrawny short guy, should have asked if he looked like Woody Allen.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (flYWz)
389
The age 20-30 was profiled because the profiler knew that people in that age group believed the system and society was broken.
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yeah, just a 10 year spread, real great predictive power. 20 year olds are just as world weary as 30 year olds and 30 year olds are just as dumb and brash as 20 year olds.
what-the-fuck-ever
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yeah, just a 10 year spread, real great predictive power. 20 year olds are just as world weary as 30 year olds and 30 year olds are just as dumb and brash as 20 year olds.
what-the-fuck-ever
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (DQC26)
390
333 In Charlottesville? Didn't it turn out that the girl died of a heart attack or something? Not the car?
Posted by: free tibet at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (xDk+1)
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A. I never heard that.
B. When people are seriously injured, many times a heart attack will result. That doesn't mean the serious injury wasn't the act that caused the death.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (pvjTE)
He was never hit by the car. She had a heart attack because she was an unhealthy obese landwhale.
Posted by: free tibet at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (xDk+1)
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A. I never heard that.
B. When people are seriously injured, many times a heart attack will result. That doesn't mean the serious injury wasn't the act that caused the death.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (pvjTE)
He was never hit by the car. She had a heart attack because she was an unhealthy obese landwhale.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (8ceaY)
391
"Asheville was one of the places we've been thinking about fleeing to when I'm not tied here by family.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)----------------------------
Mike Hammer lives in the area. Yeah, it's gone full-blown Prog Central. Gorgeous town and area.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (ptqGC)
"
I have a friend who moved near Asheville about two years ago. But he stayed out by Black Mountain so he didn't have to deal with the progs full time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)----------------------------
Mike Hammer lives in the area. Yeah, it's gone full-blown Prog Central. Gorgeous town and area.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (ptqGC)
"
I have a friend who moved near Asheville about two years ago. But he stayed out by Black Mountain so he didn't have to deal with the progs full time.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (VpIIl)
392
>>>373 If they find SCARY GUNZ in his house, the media will have seizures.
I doubt it. He would have had it, I figure, with him when he was on the lam.
But that does raise the question: WHY did he have no guns? This is Texas, he's interested in explosive powders, etc. He's a criminal. Why not buy a gun?
I wonder if he had something in his background that he thought (probably erroneously!) would have blocked him from buying a gun.
I doubt it. He would have had it, I figure, with him when he was on the lam.
But that does raise the question: WHY did he have no guns? This is Texas, he's interested in explosive powders, etc. He's a criminal. Why not buy a gun?
I wonder if he had something in his background that he thought (probably erroneously!) would have blocked him from buying a gun.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (8rNrN)
393
I may not shop at WalMart often, but when I do, I always take my SEX OFFENDER card. Don't leave home without it.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (LOgQ4)
If you flash (SWIDT?) your SEX OFFENDER card on the HQ, do you get platinum membership, with ampersands and everything?
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (LOgQ4)
If you flash (SWIDT?) your SEX OFFENDER card on the HQ, do you get platinum membership, with ampersands and everything?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (inyex)
394
Aspiring rapper?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM
And about to get engaged to the mother of his children.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:38 PM
And about to get engaged to the mother of his children.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (p+Wdc)
395
Speaking of video, I wonder how lin-duh's six hour brain surgery webinar is going? Must be up to the hard part by now.
Posted by: Weasel at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (MVjcR)
396
If they find SCARY GUNZ in his house, the media will have seizures.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (ptqGC)
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Hmmm. Good point. And I'm sure we would have heard about it by now if he had. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (ptqGC)
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Hmmm. Good point. And I'm sure we would have heard about it by now if he had. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (Fs5vw)
397
Well, I, for one, am trying to get a driver's license that has a red star on the front.
I should know in about #twoweeks if I can get a birth certificate, and I am afraid to go to the post office because I'm afraid all I will get is a 'no record' letter.
Had a serious panic attack two days ago over it.
I should know in about #twoweeks if I can get a birth certificate, and I am afraid to go to the post office because I'm afraid all I will get is a 'no record' letter.
Had a serious panic attack two days ago over it.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (roQNm)
398
The left isn't keen on discussing recidivisum rates in general, but I think even they understand that there are people that warrant additional caution after release.
To the extent that this is true, why just sex offenders, then? Why not a murder registry, a theft registry? An arson registry? Have a card, go to the neighbors "I just moved into your area and I'm a burglar, I am required by law to let you know..."
To the extent that this is true, why just sex offenders, then? Why not a murder registry, a theft registry? An arson registry? Have a card, go to the neighbors "I just moved into your area and I'm a burglar, I am required by law to let you know..."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (8rNrN)
400
on one hand, this guy could be a bellweather for all conservatives who are finally taking Schlickters advice and rising up.
or...he could be a nut.
or...we could remind the left that the prisons are filled with moderates like James hodgekinsonstein and amy bishops and flord corkins as well as public school honor roll kids who were good boys and never did anything wrong.
or...he could be a nut.
or...we could remind the left that the prisons are filled with moderates like James hodgekinsonstein and amy bishops and flord corkins as well as public school honor roll kids who were good boys and never did anything wrong.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (DQC26)
401
366 The age 20-30 was profiled because the profiler knew that people in that age group believed the system and society was broken.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (8ceaY)
You don't have to go that far. Ages 15-30 are the sweet spot of the Wonder Years for crime. Bomb building would move up the lower end a bit, so 20-30 was probably the safest bet on the planet.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (inyex)
That's what the profiler stated for his reasoning. I was paraphrasing from memory. Article is on Drusge.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:42 PM (8ceaY)
You don't have to go that far. Ages 15-30 are the sweet spot of the Wonder Years for crime. Bomb building would move up the lower end a bit, so 20-30 was probably the safest bet on the planet.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:44 PM (inyex)
That's what the profiler stated for his reasoning. I was paraphrasing from memory. Article is on Drusge.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (8ceaY)
402
I have a friend who moved near Asheville about two
years ago. But he stayed out by Black Mountain so he didn't have to deal
with the progs full time.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (VpIIl)
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Two years? I only get out there once or twice a year, but I suspect they've done a lot of catching up with him in that time.
years ago. But he stayed out by Black Mountain so he didn't have to deal
with the progs full time.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (VpIIl)
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Two years? I only get out there once or twice a year, but I suspect they've done a lot of catching up with him in that time.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (JTMqu)
403
But that does raise the question: WHY did he have no guns? This is Texas, he's interested in explosive powders, etc. He's a criminal. Why not buy a gun?
I wonder if he had something in his background that he thought (probably erroneously!) would have blocked him from buying a gun.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (8rNrN)
...
He's unemployed and 23. Could just be he didn't have the cash. But he's only been eligible for handguns for two years.
Dunno how much bomb parts cost.
I wonder if he had something in his background that he thought (probably erroneously!) would have blocked him from buying a gun.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (8rNrN)
...
He's unemployed and 23. Could just be he didn't have the cash. But he's only been eligible for handguns for two years.
Dunno how much bomb parts cost.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (yL25O)
404
The Sex Offender customer I dealt with was one of these grain fed good ol boys out of the deep piney woods.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Was he wearing a t-shirt with SQUEAL LIKE A PIG on it?
The Sex Offender customer I dealt with was one of these grain fed good ol boys out of the deep piney woods.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Was he wearing a t-shirt with SQUEAL LIKE A PIG on it?
Posted by: Hands at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (EzdLW)
405
whenever I send packages thru fedex I flash them my Official Bikini Inspector ID. Never had no problems so far.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (8rNrN)
406
Christopher, that was much more better.smiling
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (/ikqi)
407
382 Austin cannot be as bad as SF - honestly, I don't think there is a city in the US that has reached that level of disgusting-ness."
No, Austin still exists inside Texas and has to live with Texas laws and Texas values, and even if they don't like them, it puts a big damper on how far they can go.
The Texas Sanctuary City law that was recently upheld was aimed directly at Austin officials who wanted to make it a Sanctuary City.
No, Austin still exists inside Texas and has to live with Texas laws and Texas values, and even if they don't like them, it puts a big damper on how far they can go.
The Texas Sanctuary City law that was recently upheld was aimed directly at Austin officials who wanted to make it a Sanctuary City.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (k1TUh)
408
What the heck kind of 24 year old conservative doesn't own at least one gun?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:48 PM (JTMqu)
409
381 >>>The age 20-30 was profiled because the profiler knew that people in that age group believed the system and society was broken.
who doesn't these days? But he didn't act with any obvious political motive so why would anyone think he was acting in reaction to a broken society?
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (8rNrN)
That was the profilers reasoning.
who doesn't these days? But he didn't act with any obvious political motive so why would anyone think he was acting in reaction to a broken society?
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (8rNrN)
That was the profilers reasoning.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:48 PM (8ceaY)
410
129 Dude was just randomly murdering people according to law enforcement. He was going through an online "phone book" and actually had more names picked out.
The whole things seems random. And senseless.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (VpIIl)
Sounds to me like:
Antifa anarchist. kill the bourgeois
The whole things seems random. And senseless.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:12 PM (VpIIl)
Sounds to me like:
Antifa anarchist. kill the bourgeois
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 21, 2018 01:48 PM (C9C0H)
411
bob, the best thing i can say re; ham, is it smells awesome.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:48 PM (/ikqi)
412
>>What the heck kind of 24 year old conservative doesn't own at least one gun?
Or a Genuine LaceWig.
Or a Genuine LaceWig.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (ia5FY)
413
That's what conservative means to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (39g3+)
B-b-but, you forgot the bible-thumping, cousin-humping, fag-bashing, muslim-thrashing, hue-hating, Jew-baiting part!
/s
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM (39g3+)
B-b-but, you forgot the bible-thumping, cousin-humping, fag-bashing, muslim-thrashing, hue-hating, Jew-baiting part!
/s
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (rdl6o)
414
i guess i'm as confused about what a conservative is anyway.
i always tied it to self sufficiency, not asking others to pay for my stuff, unless i 'work it'. and sanctity to an individual life, (small or large) while being able to defend myself legally.
oh and a weaker/less invasive govt. actual Free speech. and hmm.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (/ikqi)
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There's a certain type of morality ("the end justifies the means", "the greatest good for the greatest number of people") called consequentialism. I think that is the rot that is the source of liberalism. If you *think* some action has good consequences in the long term, that justifies you doing things that would otherwise be immoral. Oppressing people, stealing from them, killing them (Stalin killing kulaks to implement his 5 year plans), regulating them to death, circumventing existing laws like the Obama administration because it would take too long to do things the proper way by getting legislation passed.
So my definition of conservative would be anyone who rejects consequentialism, because then you are left with traditional moral rules that cannot be overridden merely because you *think* your stupid theory will create utopia.
i always tied it to self sufficiency, not asking others to pay for my stuff, unless i 'work it'. and sanctity to an individual life, (small or large) while being able to defend myself legally.
oh and a weaker/less invasive govt. actual Free speech. and hmm.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (/ikqi)
========
There's a certain type of morality ("the end justifies the means", "the greatest good for the greatest number of people") called consequentialism. I think that is the rot that is the source of liberalism. If you *think* some action has good consequences in the long term, that justifies you doing things that would otherwise be immoral. Oppressing people, stealing from them, killing them (Stalin killing kulaks to implement his 5 year plans), regulating them to death, circumventing existing laws like the Obama administration because it would take too long to do things the proper way by getting legislation passed.
So my definition of conservative would be anyone who rejects consequentialism, because then you are left with traditional moral rules that cannot be overridden merely because you *think* your stupid theory will create utopia.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (/qEW2)
415
403 But that does raise the question: WHY did he have no guns? This is Texas, he's interested in explosive powders, etc. He's a criminal. Why not buy a gun?
I wonder if he had something in his background that he thought (probably erroneously!) would have blocked him from buying a gun.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (8rNrN) "
You're missing something obvious - a bomber doesn't want to be there personally, he doesn't want to see the violent, killing part. He wants to be far, far away from the scene when things go boom. A gun would require him to be up close and personal with his victims.
I wonder if he had something in his background that he thought (probably erroneously!) would have blocked him from buying a gun.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (8rNrN) "
You're missing something obvious - a bomber doesn't want to be there personally, he doesn't want to see the violent, killing part. He wants to be far, far away from the scene when things go boom. A gun would require him to be up close and personal with his victims.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (k1TUh)
416
In Charlottesville? Didn't it turn out that the girl died of a heart attack or something? Not the car?
Posted by: free tibet at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (xDk+1)
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Going into shock from trauma can cause heart failure.
Posted by: free tibet at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (xDk+1)
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Going into shock from trauma can cause heart failure.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (Fs5vw)
417
405 whenever I send packages thru fedex I flash them my Official Bikini Inspector ID. Never had no problems so far.
Posted by: ace
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I remember Sherly Crow complaining in a song how just anyone could go to Fed Ex and mail a package. They don't have bombings anywhere else in the world. It's times like this I think of that Aaron Sorkin speech from the real conservative on HBO about how America is like the worst when you get down to it.
Posted by: ace
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I remember Sherly Crow complaining in a song how just anyone could go to Fed Ex and mail a package. They don't have bombings anywhere else in the world. It's times like this I think of that Aaron Sorkin speech from the real conservative on HBO about how America is like the worst when you get down to it.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (DQC26)
418
Asheville was one of the places we've been thinking about fleeing to when I'm not tied here by family.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)----------------------------
Mike Hammer lives in the area. Yeah, it's gone full-blown Prog Central. Gorgeous town and area.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (ptqGC)
I've thought a lot about moving to Asheville when I no longer have to be in this area for the 'rents.
It's gorgeous. Great weather though Asheville gets actual snow in the winter. Wonderful art scene.
Bat. Shit. Politics.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:32 PM (inyex)----------------------------
Mike Hammer lives in the area. Yeah, it's gone full-blown Prog Central. Gorgeous town and area.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:40 PM (ptqGC)
I've thought a lot about moving to Asheville when I no longer have to be in this area for the 'rents.
It's gorgeous. Great weather though Asheville gets actual snow in the winter. Wonderful art scene.
Bat. Shit. Politics.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (mf5HN)
419
I think that someone who is a thief is no more "forever that way mentally bent" than someone who is a child molester. Someone who kills people without remorse is messed up for life and has mental issues at least as much as a rapist. I think you can get an arsonist to stop burning things through therapy but they forever have to fight the urges and are wisest to avoid certain things that might tempt them.
The idea that sex crimes are a specific and unique category that requires special and different legal treatment is questionable, at best.
I don't understand why rape isn't a capital crime. If you really do commit a rape, you should face death just as much as a murderer. But first, castration by piranha.
The idea that sex crimes are a specific and unique category that requires special and different legal treatment is questionable, at best.
I don't understand why rape isn't a capital crime. If you really do commit a rape, you should face death just as much as a murderer. But first, castration by piranha.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:50 PM (39g3+)
420
Austin cannot be as bad as SF - honestly, I don't
think there is a city in the US that has reached that level of
disgusting-ness.
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM
Having experienced both, Austin is well on its way.
think there is a city in the US that has reached that level of
disgusting-ness.
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:43 PM
Having experienced both, Austin is well on its way.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 21, 2018 01:50 PM (ctuyM)
421
I forgot the gun-toting, Christian-promoting smears. Sorry.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at March 21, 2018 01:50 PM (rdl6o)
422
To the extent that this is true, why just sex offenders, then? Why not a murder registry, a theft registry? An arson registry? Have a card, go to the neighbors "I just moved into your area and I'm a burglar, I am required by law to let you know..."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (39g3+)
Or a gang registry, or an ex-con registry?
Actually, those would be useful to know about.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (39g3+)
Or a gang registry, or an ex-con registry?
Actually, those would be useful to know about.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:50 PM (inyex)
423
You're missing something obvious - a bomber doesn't want to be there personally, he doesn't want to see the violent, killing part. He wants to be far, far away from the scene when things go boom. A gun would require him to be up close and personal with his victims.
A bomber wants to see society scared of him, not necessarily the death itself.
You're missing something obvious - a bomber doesn't want to be there personally, he doesn't want to see the violent, killing part. He wants to be far, far away from the scene when things go boom. A gun would require him to be up close and personal with his victims.
A bomber wants to see society scared of him, not necessarily the death itself.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (oVJmc)
424
I'm beginning to believe that Reddit AMA with the Austinbomber was actually him. Interesting to read.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (8ceaY)
425
>>>That's what the profiler stated for his reasoning. I was paraphrasing from memory. Article is on Drusge.
oh okay.
well this profile seems weaker and weaker. This guy's motive seems more like that quarter-life crisis thing millennials are supposedly going through than some political statement.
If it's politically motivated, where's the political statement? He made no efforts to make a grand pronouncement about the broken nature of society.
oh okay.
well this profile seems weaker and weaker. This guy's motive seems more like that quarter-life crisis thing millennials are supposedly going through than some political statement.
If it's politically motivated, where's the political statement? He made no efforts to make a grand pronouncement about the broken nature of society.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (8rNrN)
426
So will Youtube ban Muslim videos in reaction to the Minnesota Murdering Muslim cop conviction?
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (ROV4u)
427
Oh, I forgot another consequentialist habit: the press can be biased and lie about things because they want to guide the public into thinking along "correct" lines. A conservative would reject that.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (/qEW2)
428
You're missing something obvious - a bomber doesn't want to be there personally, he doesn't want to see the violent, killing part. He wants to be far, far away from the scene when things go boom. A gun would require him to be up close and personal with his victims.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (k1TUh)
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Well, he got up close and personal yesterday.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (k1TUh)
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Well, he got up close and personal yesterday.
Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (Fs5vw)
429
But first, castration by piranha.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:50 PM
That would be cruel and unusual - for the piranha.
But first, castration by piranha.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:50 PM
That would be cruel and unusual - for the piranha.
Posted by: Hands at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (EzdLW)
430
The Texas Sanctuary City law that was recently upheld was aimed directly at Austin officials who wanted to make it a Sanctuary City.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (k1TUh)
...
It's genuinely entertaining to me to have a conservative-ish legislature forced to come deal with Austin, and sometimes direct state law very specifically against local ordinances.
Abbot vs. the local tree ordinance comes to mind. Texas Facilities Commission is doing all kinds of hand wringing because they try to place nice with local land planning rules, and therefore actually seek City exemptions on projects, but the City is pissed at the governor right now. The state can tell the city to pound sand so I'm not really sure why TFC gives a damn, but there you have it.
And Paxton (AG) is going after the plastic bag ban, which is 10 kinds of awesome.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (k1TUh)
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It's genuinely entertaining to me to have a conservative-ish legislature forced to come deal with Austin, and sometimes direct state law very specifically against local ordinances.
Abbot vs. the local tree ordinance comes to mind. Texas Facilities Commission is doing all kinds of hand wringing because they try to place nice with local land planning rules, and therefore actually seek City exemptions on projects, but the City is pissed at the governor right now. The state can tell the city to pound sand so I'm not really sure why TFC gives a damn, but there you have it.
And Paxton (AG) is going after the plastic bag ban, which is 10 kinds of awesome.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: concrete girl at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (N0sw0)
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Steve, i believe in helping others have good outcomes , but as a individual helping them, not a demand on everyone to do so.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 01:52 PM (/ikqi)
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I remember Sherly Crow complaining in a song how just anyone could go to Fed Ex and mail a package. They don't have bombings anywhere else in the world. It's times like this I think of that Aaron Sorkin speech from the real conservative on HBO about how America is like the worst when you get down to it.
They're so quaint.
I remember Sherly Crow complaining in a song how just anyone could go to Fed Ex and mail a package. They don't have bombings anywhere else in the world. It's times like this I think of that Aaron Sorkin speech from the real conservative on HBO about how America is like the worst when you get down to it.
They're so quaint.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 21, 2018 01:52 PM (oVJmc)
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But that does raise the question: WHY did he have no
guns? This is Texas, he's interested in explosive powders, etc. He's a
criminal. Why not buy a gun?
I wonder if he had something in his background that he thought (probably erroneously!) would have blocked him from buying a gun.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (8rNrN)
Because sex offender?
guns? This is Texas, he's interested in explosive powders, etc. He's a
criminal. Why not buy a gun?
I wonder if he had something in his background that he thought (probably erroneously!) would have blocked him from buying a gun.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:45 PM (8rNrN)
Because sex offender?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:52 PM (ptqGC)
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Its sad but most of the really, really beautiful spots int he world get infested with lunatic lefties and human detritus. The "18 piercings in my face and a neck tattoo" type, the "I self identify as a bisexual porpoise" types.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:52 PM (39g3+)
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Or a Genuine LaceWig.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (ia5FY)
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I wonder where someone could get something like that?
Or a Genuine LaceWig.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:49 PM (ia5FY)
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I wonder where someone could get something like that?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (JTMqu)
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397 Well, I, for one, am trying to get a driver's license that has a red star on the front.
I should know in about #twoweeks if I can get a birth certificate, and I am afraid to go to the post office because I'm afraid all I will get is a 'no record' letter.
Had a serious panic attack two days ago over it.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (roQNm)
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What's the red star mean? You aren't trying to get certified as a communist, are you?
I should know in about #twoweeks if I can get a birth certificate, and I am afraid to go to the post office because I'm afraid all I will get is a 'no record' letter.
Had a serious panic attack two days ago over it.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (roQNm)
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What's the red star mean? You aren't trying to get certified as a communist, are you?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (pvjTE)
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That would be cruel and unusual - for the piranha.
But I had the tank all planned out. Sit here and droop those boys into the water, pal... *cringing*
But I had the tank all planned out. Sit here and droop those boys into the water, pal... *cringing*
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (ia5FY)
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>>>You're missing something obvious - a bomber doesn't want to be there personally, he doesn't want to see the violent, killing part. He wants to be far, far away from the scene when things go boom. A gun would require him to be up close and personal with his victims.
yes, I know bombing was his preferred method of murder. But if you're interested in bombs, you gotta have at least SOME interest in guns, I'm guessing.
I'm not saying people buy guns to kill people. But obviously guns are good for killing people, so if you're having these kinds of homicidal thoughts, why not pick up a gun?
Even just as an aid in his bombing. What if the guy was witnessed when he was planting his tripwire bomb late at night? He'd want to kill the witness, wouldn't he? Assuming the guy was close enough to see him clearly and close enough to hit with a bullet.
yes, I know bombing was his preferred method of murder. But if you're interested in bombs, you gotta have at least SOME interest in guns, I'm guessing.
I'm not saying people buy guns to kill people. But obviously guns are good for killing people, so if you're having these kinds of homicidal thoughts, why not pick up a gun?
Even just as an aid in his bombing. What if the guy was witnessed when he was planting his tripwire bomb late at night? He'd want to kill the witness, wouldn't he? Assuming the guy was close enough to see him clearly and close enough to hit with a bullet.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (8rNrN)
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To the extent that this is true, why just sex offenders, then? Why not a murder registry, a theft registry? An arson registry? Have a card, go to the neighbors "I just moved into your area and I'm a burglar, I am required by law to let you know..."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I think it's because it usually involves children so much of the time and people really recoil any time children are vulnerable more so than other crimes.
If it's premeditated murder and the system is working, we dont allow these people to walk around at all outside of a prison cell.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I think it's because it usually involves children so much of the time and people really recoil any time children are vulnerable more so than other crimes.
If it's premeditated murder and the system is working, we dont allow these people to walk around at all outside of a prison cell.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (lKmt3)
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seems another time they said 'exotic battery', but found these remote control toys have such batteries. But it probably helped them narrow down their searches. Nest we'll get those helicopter drones dropping little bombs on targets, and flying back to reload for another day ... so much tech out there ... need to raise better people, instead of total police state. (which would fail anyway)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:54 PM (bT8Z4)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 21, 2018 01:54 PM (yQpMk)
444
Sheryl Crow's laundress knows about toxic deliveries.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 21, 2018 01:54 PM (wd1mg)
445
Or some 14-year-old kid who gets busted for having a
nude pic of his 13-year-old girlfriend on his phone. Possession of
child pornography! You're on the sex offender registry for the rest of
your life, bucko!
The law is an ass.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (wHMIo)
I am not opposed to the sex offender registry, per se, but it should be a requirement that to get on it, one must have at least three separate convictions for sex-related offences, and thus be at high risk for re-offending.
And public urination should not be a sex offense, if the person is making at least a token effort to be discrete about it.
nude pic of his 13-year-old girlfriend on his phone. Possession of
child pornography! You're on the sex offender registry for the rest of
your life, bucko!
The law is an ass.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Global Rethinker at March 21, 2018 01:37 PM (wHMIo)
I am not opposed to the sex offender registry, per se, but it should be a requirement that to get on it, one must have at least three separate convictions for sex-related offences, and thus be at high risk for re-offending.
And public urination should not be a sex offense, if the person is making at least a token effort to be discrete about it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2018 01:54 PM (Dbv1R)
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What's the red star mean? You aren't trying to get certified as a communist, are you?
It just denotes that he's from one of the planets in the Solar Federation.
It just denotes that he's from one of the planets in the Solar Federation.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at March 21, 2018 01:54 PM (SGFoV)
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265 Home-schooling is great, but some do get too isolated imo. It makes sense to want the strong Christian upbringing AND education. But being able to confront the real world is also part of the deal.....
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (bT8Z4)
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Having failed to show that home-schooling is academically inferior, the NEA has for years and years been trying to prove that home-schoolers are social retards.
Alas for the NEA, home-schoolers score significantly better on socialization outcomes* than traditionally schooled kids do.
*civic engagement, community activities, employment, friends, marriage/family stability, employment, crime rate, perception of own happiness, etc., etc.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (bT8Z4)
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Having failed to show that home-schooling is academically inferior, the NEA has for years and years been trying to prove that home-schoolers are social retards.
Alas for the NEA, home-schoolers score significantly better on socialization outcomes* than traditionally schooled kids do.
*civic engagement, community activities, employment, friends, marriage/family stability, employment, crime rate, perception of own happiness, etc., etc.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 21, 2018 01:54 PM (0jtPF)
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405 whenever I send packages thru fedex I flash them my Official Bikini Inspector ID. Never had no problems so far.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (8rNrN)
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Gotta try this. My Federal Mattress Tag Inspector card is getting me nowhere.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (8rNrN)
...
Gotta try this. My Federal Mattress Tag Inspector card is getting me nowhere.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:55 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Candiru at March 21, 2018 01:55 PM (n+6mJ)
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Austin does have legit weirdness, but I don't think it compares to places like Madison, Portland, San Francisco.
Austin's weirdness also has become a bit "corporate" and "sanitized" in recent years, at least in certain quarters/to an extent. I attribute it to the influx of wealth into the area. The wealthy may pay lipservice to weirdness, but the rich ultimately want the usual comfort and nice things that the rich always want and are not at all into smelly hippies.
Austin's weirdness also has become a bit "corporate" and "sanitized" in recent years, at least in certain quarters/to an extent. I attribute it to the influx of wealth into the area. The wealthy may pay lipservice to weirdness, but the rich ultimately want the usual comfort and nice things that the rich always want and are not at all into smelly hippies.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 01:55 PM (ckk1c)
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>>>Because sex offender?
IN-ter-esting... and assuming this was before he was 18, and under seal, maybe he feared he was on the NICS list, even though he wasn't.
IN-ter-esting... and assuming this was before he was 18, and under seal, maybe he feared he was on the NICS list, even though he wasn't.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:55 PM (8rNrN)
452
I told you guys a while back about being in my car trying to leave a Walmart parking lot, and the guy in front of me got out, opened his trunk to rearrange something, and when he bent over ---- his nasty pants slipped completely below his nasty ass --- and he left them that way while he fooled around in his trunk.
I was so gobsmacked I forgot to get a pic with my phone to send it to People of Walmart.
I was so gobsmacked I forgot to get a pic with my phone to send it to People of Walmart.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2018 01:55 PM (ptqGC)
453
The best thing about the "Keep _______ weird" places is watching the local politics. The "question authority" folks grow up to be authorities, and they do some really, really crazy stuff to their cities and to the kids that were them 25 years ago. It's wonderful.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 01:55 PM (JTMqu)
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think that someone who is a thief is no more "forever that way mentally bent" than someone who is a child molester.
The idea that sex crimes are a specific and unique category that requires special and different legal treatment is questionable, at best.
Sorry, but respectfully disagree. Sex is a primordial force that transcends - and therefore is impervious to -rational analysis or incentives. Someone who is sexually attracted to children, or given to perpetrating violent sexual attacks, I don't believe will EVER change, or indeed CAN ever change.
I believe that, for whatever reason, it's intrinsic to them, and they'll be that way until they go to the grave.
Other crimes, not necessarily the case.
The idea that sex crimes are a specific and unique category that requires special and different legal treatment is questionable, at best.
Sorry, but respectfully disagree. Sex is a primordial force that transcends - and therefore is impervious to -rational analysis or incentives. Someone who is sexually attracted to children, or given to perpetrating violent sexual attacks, I don't believe will EVER change, or indeed CAN ever change.
I believe that, for whatever reason, it's intrinsic to them, and they'll be that way until they go to the grave.
Other crimes, not necessarily the case.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:55 PM (inyex)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (yQpMk)
456
Conservative like Kristol Meth? Ralph Peters?
Has anyone addressed how he became adept at making bombs? Internet searching doesn't seem to make one proficient but who knows? I still feel that he was not a lone actor.
Has anyone addressed how he became adept at making bombs? Internet searching doesn't seem to make one proficient but who knows? I still feel that he was not a lone actor.
Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (oiNtH)
457
I don't understand why rape isn't a capital crime. If you really do commit a rape, you should face death just as much as a murderer. But first, castration by piranha.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:50 PM (39g3+)
Remember the guy who raped the young girl, cut off her arms and dumped her into a ditch? She miraculously lived and he was caught and sent to prison. He was later paroled over strong objections. He ended up murdering another lady.
If raping and cutting off someone's arms doesn't deserve the death penalty nothing does.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:50 PM (39g3+)
Remember the guy who raped the young girl, cut off her arms and dumped her into a ditch? She miraculously lived and he was caught and sent to prison. He was later paroled over strong objections. He ended up murdering another lady.
If raping and cutting off someone's arms doesn't deserve the death penalty nothing does.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (woCRW)
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it's politically motivated, where's the political statement? He made no efforts to make a grand pronouncement about the broken nature of society.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (8rNrN)
He did a Reddit AMA under AustinBomber. It's an interesting read, He states over and over again that he just wants to see the world burn. He also got off from the fact law enforcement could not catch and identify him.
His responses are out there. Interesting and worth looking up,
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (8rNrN)
He did a Reddit AMA under AustinBomber. It's an interesting read, He states over and over again that he just wants to see the world burn. He also got off from the fact law enforcement could not catch and identify him.
His responses are out there. Interesting and worth looking up,
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (8ceaY)
459
you don't have to buy a fishing license if you're a sex offender? that seems like a perk.
Posted by: x at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (nFwvY)
460
What's the red star mean?
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Real ID Compliant Driver's license as required by the Real ID Act of 2005 which seemed like a good idea at the time.
I have a certified birth certificate that was issued in 1970 that is not compliant with the new law in 2005.
It all depends on whether or not the county had duplicate records stored offsite before the Great County Court House Fire of 1978 burned the building to the ground.
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Real ID Compliant Driver's license as required by the Real ID Act of 2005 which seemed like a good idea at the time.
I have a certified birth certificate that was issued in 1970 that is not compliant with the new law in 2005.
It all depends on whether or not the county had duplicate records stored offsite before the Great County Court House Fire of 1978 burned the building to the ground.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (roQNm)
461
"Its sad but most of the really, really beautiful spots int he world get infested with lunatic lefties and human detritus."
I think the problem is in the Trust funds. They can afford to live in the nice spots sans work.
I think the problem is in the Trust funds. They can afford to live in the nice spots sans work.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (aVYsC)
462
When leftists try to ban things they just project onto the entire world the fact that they are too unhealthy, immature and insane to be granted the gift of Freedom.
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 21, 2018 01:57 PM (ROV4u)
463
Simpler explanation for the 20-30 range...
Young Men are totally outcast, dismissed, and denigrated in modern schools... they have been cast adrift, with no Manly role Models.
Now, chances of a Teenager being able to successfully get the components and knowledge to successfully build multiple bombs? Possible... but slim...
Thus, disaffected Male... who has the Money, and time, to do something like this...
20 - 30 is most likely...
Young Men are totally outcast, dismissed, and denigrated in modern schools... they have been cast adrift, with no Manly role Models.
Now, chances of a Teenager being able to successfully get the components and knowledge to successfully build multiple bombs? Possible... but slim...
Thus, disaffected Male... who has the Money, and time, to do something like this...
20 - 30 is most likely...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 21, 2018 01:57 PM (NgKpN)
464
human defecation is getting to be the norm in SF - I really hope Austin does not embrace that.
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:57 PM (a0IVu)
465
the NEA has for years and years been trying to prove that home-schoolers are social retards.
In fairness, if there's anybody who knows about retards, it's the NEA. Not only much of their clientele, but also of their membership probably qualify.
In fairness, if there's anybody who knows about retards, it's the NEA. Not only much of their clientele, but also of their membership probably qualify.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (inyex)
466
Sorry, but respectfully disagree. Sex is a primordial force that transcends - and therefore is impervious to -rational analysis or incentives. Someone who is sexually attracted to children, or given to perpetrating violent sexual attacks, I don't believe will EVER change, or indeed CAN ever change.
Assuming that's true, its also true of arsonists, murders, and thieves, at least according to law enforcement officials, psychologists, and historians. A rapist has a messed up head that compels them to do evil crap, but that's also true of someone who loves to burn things to see the pretty fire.
Someone who is a burglar for a living almost always goes back to that life when they get out. Its part of who they are as well.
Assuming that's true, its also true of arsonists, murders, and thieves, at least according to law enforcement officials, psychologists, and historians. A rapist has a messed up head that compels them to do evil crap, but that's also true of someone who loves to burn things to see the pretty fire.
Someone who is a burglar for a living almost always goes back to that life when they get out. Its part of who they are as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (39g3+)
467
To the extent that this is true, why just sex offenders, then? Why not a murder registry, a theft registry? An arson registry? Have a card, go to the neighbors "I just moved into your area and I'm a burglar, I am required by law to let you know..."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (39g3+)
Convicted felons usually have to check boxes for things like employment or other forms (at least before the left decided that was too racist and has been trying to remove them).
Those other things are still all matters of public record, people are just naturally wired to be more suspicious of someone who is a potential threat to women and children.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:46 PM (39g3+)
Convicted felons usually have to check boxes for things like employment or other forms (at least before the left decided that was too racist and has been trying to remove them).
Those other things are still all matters of public record, people are just naturally wired to be more suspicious of someone who is a potential threat to women and children.
Posted by: Sjg at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (gDSJf)
468
human defecation on the roads I mean..
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (a0IVu)
469
Simpler explanation for the 20-30 range...
Young Men are totally outcast, dismissed, and denigrated in modern schools... they have been cast adrift, with no Manly role Models.
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and men 30-45 are a bunch of loser dweeb, dad-bods who should just man up and date fat, older women who really care about their careers.
Young Men are totally outcast, dismissed, and denigrated in modern schools... they have been cast adrift, with no Manly role Models.
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and men 30-45 are a bunch of loser dweeb, dad-bods who should just man up and date fat, older women who really care about their careers.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (DQC26)
470
"Its sad but most of the really, really beautiful spots int he world get infested with lunatic lefties and human detritus."
The California story, in a nutshell.
The California story, in a nutshell.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (inyex)
471
I was Partridge Hunting with a friend one day and we stopped by a new ranch to ask permission to go run our dogs through some cut barley...owner comes to the door, says ok and sends us on our way.
We drive past the house and pass the Laundry Line. Had to be 10 pair of Size 54+ Tighty Whities.
Every one had a 3" x 6" skid mark on them.
We drive past the house and pass the Laundry Line. Had to be 10 pair of Size 54+ Tighty Whities.
Every one had a 3" x 6" skid mark on them.
Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2018 01:59 PM (ia5FY)
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the NEA has for years and years been trying to prove that home-schoolers are social retards.
In fairness, if there's anybody who knows about retards, it's the NEA. Not only much of their clientele, but also of their membership probably qualify.
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not like the PROMISE kids or Hogg, for that matter.
In fairness, if there's anybody who knows about retards, it's the NEA. Not only much of their clientele, but also of their membership probably qualify.
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not like the PROMISE kids or Hogg, for that matter.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:59 PM (DQC26)
473
468 human defecation on the roads I mean..
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (a0IVu)
Enriching the language by giving new meaning to the expression "skid marks."
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (a0IVu)
Enriching the language by giving new meaning to the expression "skid marks."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 01:59 PM (inyex)
474
If raping and cutting off someone's arms doesn't deserve the death penalty nothing does.
I know, what does it take? Like any capital crime you'd have to prove it to an extreme level of certainty, but come on...
I know, what does it take? Like any capital crime you'd have to prove it to an extreme level of certainty, but come on...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:59 PM (39g3+)
475
So he was high school educated with some credits in community college.
Or as we used to call it, a high school diploma.
Or as we used to call it, a high school diploma.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (yQpMk)
476
If it's politically motivated, where's the political statement? He made no efforts to make a grand pronouncement about the broken nature of society.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (8rNrN)
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You can't know that. The Unabomber's manifesto was only released in an act of desperation by the feds in order to try to track him down. Most the time, both the government and the media look to suppress the propaganda of terrorists. Same with social media companies.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:51 PM (8rNrN)
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You can't know that. The Unabomber's manifesto was only released in an act of desperation by the feds in order to try to track him down. Most the time, both the government and the media look to suppress the propaganda of terrorists. Same with social media companies.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (pvjTE)
477
470 "Its sad but most of the really, really beautiful spots int he world get infested with lunatic lefties and human detritus."
The California story, in a nutshell.
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well, because true con cucks be all like, "sure I'll go along with the lefts' latest plan to ruin the nice parts of the world because Jesus"
The California story, in a nutshell.
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well, because true con cucks be all like, "sure I'll go along with the lefts' latest plan to ruin the nice parts of the world because Jesus"
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (DQC26)
478
Austin does have legit weirdness, but I don't think it compares to places like Madison, Portland, San Francisco.
I use the Fulton Street Fair Test to determine ifa city is as leftard as SF.
Austin does have legit weirdness, but I don't think it compares to places like Madison, Portland, San Francisco.
I use the Fulton Street Fair Test to determine ifa city is as leftard as SF.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (lKyWE)
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"Its sad but most of the really, really beautiful spots int he world get infested with lunatic lefties and human detritus."
I think the problem is in the Trust funds. They can afford to live in the nice spots sans work.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (aVYsC)
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What I've seen is middle class people selling their yankee or California homes for a million dollars and moving to the South to buy the same home for $200K. They still work, though, so there are now both fewer jobs AND reasonably priced homes for the locals.
I think the problem is in the Trust funds. They can afford to live in the nice spots sans work.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 21, 2018 01:56 PM (aVYsC)
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What I've seen is middle class people selling their yankee or California homes for a million dollars and moving to the South to buy the same home for $200K. They still work, though, so there are now both fewer jobs AND reasonably priced homes for the locals.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (JTMqu)
480
not like the PROMISE kids or Hogg, for that matter.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:59 PM (DQC26)
Speaking of Hogg, is he still holding out hope that he can get into an obedience school, now that everywhere else has shitcanned him?
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:59 PM (DQC26)
Speaking of Hogg, is he still holding out hope that he can get into an obedience school, now that everywhere else has shitcanned him?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (inyex)
481
"I don't understand why rape isn't a capital crime. If you really do commit a rape, you should face death just as much as a murderer."
I used to wonder that same question, and by accident ran across the answer one day, and it mainly comes down to the way that sometimes the stigma from past wrong actions still affects and gets embedded in our world today. Rape WAS traditionally given the death penalty, and this continued in most southern states until the 1970's, when the Supreme Court finally tossed it out. (Coker vs Georgia, 1977)
The real problem with it is that when looking at statistics of those executed for rape in the 20th century, 95% of the time (and it was a LOT of executions) it was for the crime of a black man raping a white woman. I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record (in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black woman. It was generally a charge that was never applied to whites.
I used to wonder that same question, and by accident ran across the answer one day, and it mainly comes down to the way that sometimes the stigma from past wrong actions still affects and gets embedded in our world today. Rape WAS traditionally given the death penalty, and this continued in most southern states until the 1970's, when the Supreme Court finally tossed it out. (Coker vs Georgia, 1977)
The real problem with it is that when looking at statistics of those executed for rape in the 20th century, 95% of the time (and it was a LOT of executions) it was for the crime of a black man raping a white woman. I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record (in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black woman. It was generally a charge that was never applied to whites.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Zombie Jim Morisson at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (ia5FY)
483
Saved Reddit AMA with austinbomber which was deleted.
https://www.ceddit.com/r/AMA/comments/85tjmo/ i_am_the_austin_bomber_ama/?st=JEZZP1GW&sh=157c5491
https://www.ceddit.com/r/AMA/comments/85tjmo/ i_am_the_austin_bomber_ama/?st=JEZZP1GW&sh=157c5491
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (8ceaY)
484
are 18650 batteries exotic, asking for a friend
Posted by: tmitsss at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (ZYgGF)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (yQpMk)
486
so i read in totality his statement he didn't believe in abortion.
Yet he believed in randomly killing Others for entertainment?
ok this guy really isn't anything but a screwed up ass.
Yet he believed in randomly killing Others for entertainment?
ok this guy really isn't anything but a screwed up ass.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (/ikqi)
487
" I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs) "
Truth. And no dogs would be shot.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs) "
Truth. And no dogs would be shot.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (e11dj)
488
We have guy who did very traceable things and perpetrated an act in
probably one of the most video taped environments on the planet, a LAS
Vegas Casino.
....
Exactly. Still waiting for the "political leanings" briefing on the worst mass shooting in US History.
Why is that?
probably one of the most video taped environments on the planet, a LAS
Vegas Casino.
....
Exactly. Still waiting for the "political leanings" briefing on the worst mass shooting in US History.
Why is that?
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (ROV4u)
489
remember, the super psychologists of the left figured out Laughner was a conservative because of his ideas about coining money. so I don't think the left's gonna need a manifesto to point out that all conservatives are like that here.
So...this is one of the few times where the backlash is not worse than the crime.
So...this is one of the few times where the backlash is not worse than the crime.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 02:02 PM (DQC26)
490
But being able to confront the real world is also part of the deal.....
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (bT8Z4)
Controlling the world is for the Rothschilds. Oh, sorry, you said confronting . Our bad.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 01:30 PM (bT8Z4)
Controlling the world is for the Rothschilds. Oh, sorry, you said confronting . Our bad.
Posted by: Stormfront dot com at March 21, 2018 02:02 PM (VRLL6)
491
Looking at the photos, I gotta ask, can ric flair explain where he was during all this ?
Posted by: Hhogan at March 21, 2018 02:02 PM (f+RBQ)
492
I use the Fulton Street Fair Test to determine ifa city is as leftard as SF.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic
For those of you who don't know what this "Fair" is....I implore you not to look it up. Zombie can tell you all about it.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic
For those of you who don't know what this "Fair" is....I implore you not to look it up. Zombie can tell you all about it.
Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2018 02:02 PM (oiNtH)
493
I use the Fulton Street Fair Test to determine if a city is as leftard as SF.
That's a pretty high bar to set.
That's a pretty high bar to set.
Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2018 02:02 PM (O5Q3r)
494
463 Simpler explanation for the 20-30 range...
Young Men are totally outcast, dismissed, and denigrated in modern schools... they have been cast adrift, with no Manly role Models.
Now, chances of a Teenager being able to successfully get the components and knowledge to successfully build multiple bombs? Possible... but slim...
Thus, disaffected Male... who has the Money, and time, to do something like this...
20 - 30 is most likely...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 21, 2018 01:57 PM (NgKpN)
The politically incorrect and non gynocentric response
Young Men are totally outcast, dismissed, and denigrated in modern schools... they have been cast adrift, with no Manly role Models.
Now, chances of a Teenager being able to successfully get the components and knowledge to successfully build multiple bombs? Possible... but slim...
Thus, disaffected Male... who has the Money, and time, to do something like this...
20 - 30 is most likely...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 21, 2018 01:57 PM (NgKpN)
The politically incorrect and non gynocentric response
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:02 PM (8ceaY)
495
Do not name him and feed his remains to hogs.
Posted by: TheGarbone at March 21, 2018 02:03 PM (BntUA)
496
human defecation on the roads I mean..
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM
And sidewalks. Haven't seen that yet, but there are some sections of the 'downtown' area that used needles aren't hard to find.
You get panhandled about as much, though.
Posted by: IC at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM
And sidewalks. Haven't seen that yet, but there are some sections of the 'downtown' area that used needles aren't hard to find.
You get panhandled about as much, though.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 21, 2018 02:03 PM (ctuyM)
497
>>I use the Fulton Street Fair Test to determine ifa city is as leftard as SF.
Best Corn Dog, Ever!
Best Corn Dog, Ever!
Posted by: Shep Smith at March 21, 2018 02:03 PM (ia5FY)
498
I think it's because it usually involves children so much of the time and people really recoil any time children are vulnerable more so than other crimes.
If it's premeditated murder and the system is working, we dont allow these people to walk around at all outside of a prison cell.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (lKmt3)
Can't find any quick stats... but simpler premise.
We still have an ingrained 'need' to protect Women... even if they say they are equal...
I would guess that 90% of the people on the Sex Offender Registry, are Men, who preyed on Women... and a large % of the Rest are Gay Men, who preyed on boys...
Add in that Men are expendable, and you see where this leads.
If it's premeditated murder and the system is working, we dont allow these people to walk around at all outside of a prison cell.
Posted by: Maritime at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (lKmt3)
Can't find any quick stats... but simpler premise.
We still have an ingrained 'need' to protect Women... even if they say they are equal...
I would guess that 90% of the people on the Sex Offender Registry, are Men, who preyed on Women... and a large % of the Rest are Gay Men, who preyed on boys...
Add in that Men are expendable, and you see where this leads.
Posted by: Don Q. at March 21, 2018 02:03 PM (NgKpN)
499
well, because true con cucks be all like, "sure I'll go along with the lefts' latest plan to ruin the nice parts of the world because Jesus"
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (DQC26)
I've seen the driver up close, and it's liberals who voted for their stupid shit who don't like the way it turned out.
A liberal acquaintance - from MN - endorsed our notion of moving to AZ, saying he and his lib wife were thinking of the same thing. You know, to get away from the crime, the homelessness, the high taxes, and the oppressive regulation.
Which you KNOW he'd vote for again in AZ, having learned bugger all in CA.
Yeah, whence did those problems arise? Hmmmm?
Grrrrr.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (DQC26)
I've seen the driver up close, and it's liberals who voted for their stupid shit who don't like the way it turned out.
A liberal acquaintance - from MN - endorsed our notion of moving to AZ, saying he and his lib wife were thinking of the same thing. You know, to get away from the crime, the homelessness, the high taxes, and the oppressive regulation.
Which you KNOW he'd vote for again in AZ, having learned bugger all in CA.
Yeah, whence did those problems arise? Hmmmm?
Grrrrr.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:04 PM (inyex)
500
481 "I don't understand why rape isn't a capital crime. If you really do commit a rape, you should face death just as much as a murderer."
I used to wonder that same question, and by accident ran across the answer one day, and it mainly comes down to the way that sometimes the stigma from past wrong actions still affects and gets embedded in our world today. Rape WAS traditionally given the death penalty, and this continued in most southern states until the 1970's, when the Supreme Court finally tossed it out. (Coker vs Georgia, 1977)
The real problem with it is that when looking at statistics of those executed for rape in the 20th century, 95% of the time (and it was a LOT of executions) it was for the crime of a black man raping a white woman. I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record (in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black woman. It was generally a charge that was never applied to whites.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (k1TUh)
I sure as hell don't want there to be a death penalty for rape since rape keeps getting defined downward to include consensual sex, awkward flirting and unwanted advances.
I used to wonder that same question, and by accident ran across the answer one day, and it mainly comes down to the way that sometimes the stigma from past wrong actions still affects and gets embedded in our world today. Rape WAS traditionally given the death penalty, and this continued in most southern states until the 1970's, when the Supreme Court finally tossed it out. (Coker vs Georgia, 1977)
The real problem with it is that when looking at statistics of those executed for rape in the 20th century, 95% of the time (and it was a LOT of executions) it was for the crime of a black man raping a white woman. I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record (in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black woman. It was generally a charge that was never applied to whites.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 02:00 PM (k1TUh)
I sure as hell don't want there to be a death penalty for rape since rape keeps getting defined downward to include consensual sex, awkward flirting and unwanted advances.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:04 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 02:04 PM (/ikqi)
502
We only shoot dogs with cameras for the weekend Pet Thread!
Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2018 02:05 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: DeporaBOT at March 21, 2018 02:05 PM (y3aQB)
504
There's too much inherent vagueness in rape to make it a capital crime, especially as the definition has been expanded in recent decades.
@481 makes the point that it used to be "clear" and get the death penalty when it was black on white.
I believe Mike Tyson was innocent.
Ball hog rapist Kobey Bryant was guilty of a Dirty Sanchez, but Hollywood just gave him an Oscar.
@481 makes the point that it used to be "clear" and get the death penalty when it was black on white.
I believe Mike Tyson was innocent.
Ball hog rapist Kobey Bryant was guilty of a Dirty Sanchez, but Hollywood just gave him an Oscar.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 21, 2018 02:05 PM (n+6mJ)
505
The real problem with it is that when looking at statistics of those executed for rape in the 20th century, 95% of the time (and it was a LOT of executions) it was for the crime of a black man raping a white woman. I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record (in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black woman. It was generally a charge that was never applied to whites.
Sure, but that's like banning driving tickets because cops pull over too many women. The problem isn't with the penalty, its with the lack of justice and racism.
Sure, but that's like banning driving tickets because cops pull over too many women. The problem isn't with the penalty, its with the lack of justice and racism.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:05 PM (39g3+)
506
That's a pretty high bar to set.
Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2018 02:02 PM (O5Q3r)
If a city is reaching for the leftard stars the bar needs to be high
That's a pretty high bar to set.
Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2018 02:02 PM (O5Q3r)
If a city is reaching for the leftard stars the bar needs to be high
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 21, 2018 02:05 PM (lKyWE)
507
He's unemployed and 23. Could just be he didn't have the cash. But he's only been eligible for handguns for two years.
Dunno how much bomb parts cost.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (yL25O)
Have they stated what he used as the explosive agent? My default assumption is black powder.
Dunno how much bomb parts cost.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 21, 2018 01:47 PM (yL25O)
Have they stated what he used as the explosive agent? My default assumption is black powder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2018 02:05 PM (Dbv1R)
508
I would guess that 90% of the people on the Sex Offender Registry, are Men, who preyed on Women... and a large % of the Rest are Gay Men, who preyed on boys...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 21, 2018 02:03 PM (NgKpN)
I would further guess that the number of homosexual men on the registry is kept low because PC. Can you imagine Harvey Milk going on it? Yet he used to pick up runaway underaged boys at the SF Greyhound station and take them to his place to cornhole them.
Icon of the left.
Posted by: Don Q. at March 21, 2018 02:03 PM (NgKpN)
I would further guess that the number of homosexual men on the registry is kept low because PC. Can you imagine Harvey Milk going on it? Yet he used to pick up runaway underaged boys at the SF Greyhound station and take them to his place to cornhole them.
Icon of the left.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (inyex)
509
487 " I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs) "
Truth. And no dogs would be shot.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (e11dj)
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I've seen a fair number of average cops shoot. Generally, not a lot to brag about among the group.
487 " I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs) "
Truth. And no dogs would be shot.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (e11dj)
------
I've seen a fair number of average cops shoot. Generally, not a lot to brag about among the group.
Posted by: Weasel at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (MVjcR)
510
Speaking of Hogg, is he still holding out hope that he can get into an
obedience school, now that everywhere else has shitcanned him?
He was up at Harvard last night with his fellow travelers to spout their bullshit, so he may cash in yet.
obedience school, now that everywhere else has shitcanned him?
He was up at Harvard last night with his fellow travelers to spout their bullshit, so he may cash in yet.
Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (O5Q3r)
511
Just a tip. If you want to hide your fingerprints in public just dab a bit of super glue on them and let it dry. The fact that he wore gloves means he has been arrested.
Posted by: Gumby at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (vV/gB)
512
Depora, alright, thank you.
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (/ikqi)
513
Someone who is a burglar for a living almost always goes back to that life when they get out. Its part of who they are as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (39g3+)
Burglars aren't raping children for fun. There's a qualitative difference between serial child molesters and thieves.
Personally, I think recidivist child molesters should be executed as a perfunctory matter-of-course: three strikes and you're dead. But that's just me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (39g3+)
Burglars aren't raping children for fun. There's a qualitative difference between serial child molesters and thieves.
Personally, I think recidivist child molesters should be executed as a perfunctory matter-of-course: three strikes and you're dead. But that's just me.
Posted by: troyriser at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (K8f5g)
514
Wow, trying to recover, a sound bit from Little Marco from Limbaugh that actually made sense. Saying NSC leak re Putin memo was intolerable, people should quit, not leak.
Limbaugh apparently not aware that almost all of NSC is career people on detail to NSC staff. And it shouldn't be hard to track down this leak and take action. Not *that* much of a shock, as shocking as it is, assuming one of the "senior directors" on the staff (everybody's got the title "senior director", or so it seems) who's career had access to the Putin memo.
Limbaugh apparently not aware that almost all of NSC is career people on detail to NSC staff. And it shouldn't be hard to track down this leak and take action. Not *that* much of a shock, as shocking as it is, assuming one of the "senior directors" on the staff (everybody's got the title "senior director", or so it seems) who's career had access to the Putin memo.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (QDnY+)
515
did a Reddit AMA under AustinBomber.
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is there a link to that?
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 02:04 PM (/ikqi)
I posted it at 483.
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is there a link to that?
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 02:04 PM (/ikqi)
I posted it at 483.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:07 PM (8ceaY)
516
a computer profile of me would show I bought exotic 18650 batteries after the Aurora movie house shooting.
(I carry a small very bright tactical flashlight now)
(I carry a small very bright tactical flashlight now)
Posted by: tmitsss at March 21, 2018 02:07 PM (ZYgGF)
517
How did the whole sex registry thing start anyway?
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 21, 2018 02:07 PM (zRZaJ)
518
469 Simpler explanation for the 20-30 range...
Young Men are totally outcast, dismissed, and denigrated in modern schools... they have been cast adrift, with no Manly role Models.
---
and men 30-45 are a bunch of loser dweeb, dad-bods who should just man up and date fat, older women who really care about their careers.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (DQC26)
good thing I'm older than that, or I might take it personally....
Now, get off my lawn...
Young Men are totally outcast, dismissed, and denigrated in modern schools... they have been cast adrift, with no Manly role Models.
---
and men 30-45 are a bunch of loser dweeb, dad-bods who should just man up and date fat, older women who really care about their careers.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (DQC26)
good thing I'm older than that, or I might take it personally....
Now, get off my lawn...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 21, 2018 02:07 PM (NgKpN)
519
Coker v. Georgia really has to be read to be believed. The whole basis for overturning thd death penalty for rape is callousness to the harm it does to women - so much so that it's hard to describe it as anything other than misogyny (notwithstanding the contemporary overuse of the term). In the first paragraph of the facts, Justice White notes that the victim was raped and abducted at knifepoint and then drily observes that she "was unharmed."
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 02:07 PM (ckk1c)
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 02:07 PM (/ikqi)
521
509
487 " I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs) "
Truth. And no dogs would be shot.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (e11dj)
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I've seen a fair number of average cops shoot. Generally, not a lot to brag about among the group.
Posted by: Weasel at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (MVjcR)
I was thinking primarily in terms of investigative work, but I'm pretty confident the Horde at large also has significantly superior marksmanship skills compared to the average cop.
487 " I'd lay even money that the Horde, given the appropriate resources, could do a better job than your typical law enforcement agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs) "
Truth. And no dogs would be shot.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (e11dj)
------
I've seen a fair number of average cops shoot. Generally, not a lot to brag about among the group.
Posted by: Weasel at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (MVjcR)
I was thinking primarily in terms of investigative work, but I'm pretty confident the Horde at large also has significantly superior marksmanship skills compared to the average cop.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:08 PM (NWiLs)
522
how embarrassing. what is the process for kicking someone out of my sex and race. would like to have him reassigned to tonganese woman.
he is the bomber equivalent of the guy that gets caught breaking into a liquor store because came in through a high window and could not get back out.
his parents should be so ashamed.
he is the bomber equivalent of the guy that gets caught breaking into a liquor store because came in through a high window and could not get back out.
his parents should be so ashamed.
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:08 PM (MTjB1)
523
Posted by: willow at March 21, 2018 02:04 PM (/ikqi)
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It wasn't him
Posted by: DeporaBOT at March 21, 2018 02:05 PM (y3aQB)
You don't know that. You also don't know if it was somebody who knew what the bomber was doing or working with him.
It's an interesting read.
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It wasn't him
Posted by: DeporaBOT at March 21, 2018 02:05 PM (y3aQB)
You don't know that. You also don't know if it was somebody who knew what the bomber was doing or working with him.
It's an interesting read.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:08 PM (8ceaY)
524
I sure as hell don't want there to be a death penalty for rape since rape keeps getting defined downward to include consensual sex, awkward flirting and unwanted advances.
Again, that's a problem with bigotry and injustice, not rape or the death penalty.
Again, that's a problem with bigotry and injustice, not rape or the death penalty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (39g3+)
525
Alas for the NEA, home-schoolers score significantly better on socialization outcomes* than traditionally schooled kids do. Posted by: Margarita DeVille
It makes sense that most are "better raised" than most the public school kids, and the public school gets get the PC disease thrust upon them.
AND most home school kids now have broader networks, not just Mom and Dad at home. But being good means facing culture shock in the "real world". Maybe I'm just looking to defend the Christian upbringing, and blame the "full immersion" into our screwed up world. Transition is tricky business ... especially in the age of Obama and now their radical resistance.
It makes sense that most are "better raised" than most the public school kids, and the public school gets get the PC disease thrust upon them.
AND most home school kids now have broader networks, not just Mom and Dad at home. But being good means facing culture shock in the "real world". Maybe I'm just looking to defend the Christian upbringing, and blame the "full immersion" into our screwed up world. Transition is tricky business ... especially in the age of Obama and now their radical resistance.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (bT8Z4)
526
maybe if the targets at the police range were made to look like Snoopy...
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (wd1mg)
527
The real problem with it is that when looking at statistics of those executed for rape in the 20th century, 95% of the time (and it was a LOT of executions) it was for the crime of a black man raping a white woman. I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record (in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black woman. It was generally a charge that was never applied to whites.
Posted by: Tom Servo
The incidence of white men attacking black women also happens to be far lower. Blacks commit rapes ad murders far higher than their percentage of population.
Posted by: Tom Servo
The incidence of white men attacking black women also happens to be far lower. Blacks commit rapes ad murders far higher than their percentage of population.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (Fa3cJ)
528
"Assuming that's true, its also true of arsonists, murders, and thieves, at least according to law enforcement officials, psychologists, and historians. A rapist has a messed up head that compels them to do evil crap, but that's also true of someone who loves to burn things to see the pretty fire."
The problem is that if you take that to it's logical conclusion, you get to where the British got to in the 17th and 18th centuries, which is where they just executed everyone who was convicted of a crime, no matter what it was. (including the infamous case of the 9 year old boy who was hanged for stealing a pencil) I was able to visit Edinburgh once, loved it, and in the center of one the squares there's a marker at the spot where they had their only homemade guillotine set up, and it was recorded that during the "Time of Troubles" there was at least one execution every day (sometimes several) on that spot for several years running.
That's a whole lot of executions out of a whole lot smaller population than today. It's easy to forget just how bloody a lot of our past has been.
The problem is that if you take that to it's logical conclusion, you get to where the British got to in the 17th and 18th centuries, which is where they just executed everyone who was convicted of a crime, no matter what it was. (including the infamous case of the 9 year old boy who was hanged for stealing a pencil) I was able to visit Edinburgh once, loved it, and in the center of one the squares there's a marker at the spot where they had their only homemade guillotine set up, and it was recorded that during the "Time of Troubles" there was at least one execution every day (sometimes several) on that spot for several years running.
That's a whole lot of executions out of a whole lot smaller population than today. It's easy to forget just how bloody a lot of our past has been.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (k1TUh)
529
Personally, I think recidivist child molesters should be executed as a perfunctory matter-of-course: three strikes and you're dead. But that's just me.
Posted by: troyriser at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (K8f5g)
My kids ? Going vigilante after strike one.
Of course - Officer Friendly will then be gunning for me. I guess we burn that bridge when we get there.
Posted by: troyriser at March 21, 2018 02:06 PM (K8f5g)
My kids ? Going vigilante after strike one.
Of course - Officer Friendly will then be gunning for me. I guess we burn that bridge when we get there.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (yv6t0)
530
Even just as an aid in his bombing. What if the guy was witnessed when he was planting his tripwire bomb late at night? He'd want to kill the witness, wouldn't he? Assuming the guy was close enough to see him clearly and close enough to hit with a bullet.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (8rNrN)
You pull the trigger and it is personal. FTF personal. You are at fault. But if you leave a bomb lying around it is like leaving a gun lying around, the person who picks it up is ultimately responsible for what happens. So you have absolution since you are not to blame. Not the way I think but maybe the way a nutcase bomber thinks.
Even just as an aid in his bombing. What if the guy was witnessed when he was planting his tripwire bomb late at night? He'd want to kill the witness, wouldn't he? Assuming the guy was close enough to see him clearly and close enough to hit with a bullet.
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2018 01:53 PM (8rNrN)
You pull the trigger and it is personal. FTF personal. You are at fault. But if you leave a bomb lying around it is like leaving a gun lying around, the person who picks it up is ultimately responsible for what happens. So you have absolution since you are not to blame. Not the way I think but maybe the way a nutcase bomber thinks.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (e1mEI)
531
517 How did the whole sex registry thing start anyway?
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 21, 2018 02:07 PM (zRZaJ)
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Not sure, but if you're in an urban area and want to see something amazing, look at the registry for where you live.
517 How did the whole sex registry thing start anyway?
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 21, 2018 02:07 PM (zRZaJ)
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Not sure, but if you're in an urban area and want to see something amazing, look at the registry for where you live.
Posted by: Weasel at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (MVjcR)
532
I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record (in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black woman.
In fairness, statistics indicate that white on black rape is pretty rare.
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368
"To see the real truth of the matter, let us take a look at the Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005. (Go to the linked document, and under "Victims and Offenders" download the pdf file for 2005.)
...
In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man."
In fairness, statistics indicate that white on black rape is pretty rare.
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368
"To see the real truth of the matter, let us take a look at the Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005. (Go to the linked document, and under "Victims and Offenders" download the pdf file for 2005.)
...
In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (inyex)
533
524 I sure as hell don't want there to be a death penalty for rape since rape keeps getting defined downward to include consensual sex, awkward flirting and unwanted advances.
Again, that's a problem with bigotry and injustice, not rape or the death penalty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (39g3+)
But you can't keep them separated, as a practical matter. These things don't occur in a vacuum.
Again, that's a problem with bigotry and injustice, not rape or the death penalty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (39g3+)
But you can't keep them separated, as a practical matter. These things don't occur in a vacuum.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (NWiLs)
534
Superior in every way, or so he thought, until he tried shelving. Then, off the rails!!!!!
Posted by: TheGarbone at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (BntUA)
535
He literally drops off the web after 2012 except for a scrubbed Facebook profile and pieces from his family's social media accounts.
+++
By name, yes. He could very well have been actively posting on various anonymous sites or *gasp* the dark web
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By name, yes. He could very well have been actively posting on various anonymous sites or *gasp* the dark web
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (4xVJP)
536
>> In Charlottesville? Didn't it turn out that the girl died of a heart attack or something? Not the car?
That was what her mother initially said, days after the incident.
The coronor later said it was blunt trauma.
so now saying that it was a heart attack from being overweight is considered alt-right wingnuttery
That was what her mother initially said, days after the incident.
The coronor later said it was blunt trauma.
so now saying that it was a heart attack from being overweight is considered alt-right wingnuttery
Posted by: McCool at March 21, 2018 02:11 PM (WXSv6)
537
Burglars aren't raping children for fun. There's a qualitative difference between serial child molesters and thieves.
Oh I agree with that, its a worse crime without question. And we have a responsibility individually and as a society to protect children and women. That's one of our duties as men.
But women and children are in danger from arsonists and murderers and are victimized by theft as well. It just seems that if your argument is 'they never change and we need to keep an eye on them' this ought to apply more broadly -- or the infinitely dangerous monsters ought never go free (or be executed, as you say).
Oh I agree with that, its a worse crime without question. And we have a responsibility individually and as a society to protect children and women. That's one of our duties as men.
But women and children are in danger from arsonists and murderers and are victimized by theft as well. It just seems that if your argument is 'they never change and we need to keep an eye on them' this ought to apply more broadly -- or the infinitely dangerous monsters ought never go free (or be executed, as you say).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:11 PM (39g3+)
538
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:08 PM (8ceaY)
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& you don't know anymore than I do
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& you don't know anymore than I do
Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 21, 2018 02:11 PM (y3aQB)
539
"How did the whole sex registry thing start anyway? "
IIRC, Meghan's Law. Young girl killed by a recidivist who moved in nearby.
IIRC, Meghan's Law. Young girl killed by a recidivist who moved in nearby.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 21, 2018 02:11 PM (n+6mJ)
540
The Paolo, he finds the word-of-mouth more effective than, how you say, the registry.
Posted by: Paolo at March 21, 2018 02:12 PM (ctuyM)
541
The problem is that if you take that to it's logical conclusion, you get to where the British got to in the 17th and 18th centuries, which is where they just executed everyone who was convicted of a crime, no matter what it was.
That's because there were no prisons then. It was execution, or nothing, until transportation to American and then Australia came along.
That's because there were no prisons then. It was execution, or nothing, until transportation to American and then Australia came along.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:12 PM (inyex)
542
One possibility is that the batteries he used in his bombs were "exotic." Maybe they're batteries people use in some kind of tech associated with younger people. Maybe they batteries are only advertised in, say, video gamer magazines, which would mostly skew younger.
Lithium-Ion, I would guess. Maybe they were strange sizes. That's the only way any batteries are truly "exotic" these days since people use all sorts of batteries for everything.
Lithium-Ion, I would guess. Maybe they were strange sizes. That's the only way any batteries are truly "exotic" these days since people use all sorts of batteries for everything.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 21, 2018 02:12 PM (8gDQu)
543
Someone who is a burglar for a living almost always goes back to that life when they get out. Its part of who they are as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (39g3+)
Burglars aren't raping children for fun. There's a qualitative difference between serial child molesters and thieves.
Personally, I think recidivist child molesters should be executed as a perfunctory matter-of-course: three strikes and you're dead. But that's just me.
Posted by: troyriser
Ding ding ding! Winner winner chicken dinner!
Besides, burgle the wrong home at the wrong time, and you will get the death penalty with no appeal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 01:58 PM (39g3+)
Burglars aren't raping children for fun. There's a qualitative difference between serial child molesters and thieves.
Personally, I think recidivist child molesters should be executed as a perfunctory matter-of-course: three strikes and you're dead. But that's just me.
Posted by: troyriser
Ding ding ding! Winner winner chicken dinner!
Besides, burgle the wrong home at the wrong time, and you will get the death penalty with no appeal.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 02:13 PM (TUUTu)
544
>>>Great. We're going to get beaten over the head with this 24/7 for the foreseeable future.
Not with Trump, the Lightning King. This will be out of the news cycle in one week.
Not with Trump, the Lightning King. This will be out of the news cycle in one week.
Posted by: Max Power at March 21, 2018 02:13 PM (q177U)
545
Kid diddlers and child porn consumers get one strike. Put them in gen pop and the need for the death penalty doesn't exist.
Posted by: NCKate at March 21, 2018 02:13 PM (1l010)
546
well, the death penalty may be useful in theory but in practice it is a disaster.
why would you want anyone in government having the option to kill someone? either the incompetence, corruption, and the combination of the two should be enough to deter anyone from giving the government the authority to kill citizens.
why would you want anyone in government having the option to kill someone? either the incompetence, corruption, and the combination of the two should be enough to deter anyone from giving the government the authority to kill citizens.
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:13 PM (MTjB1)
547
I actually have done that Weasel. I was shocked at how many there were that were close by.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 21, 2018 02:13 PM (zRZaJ)
548
In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (inyex)
A sure sign of Racism.... so you must pay us reparations until the Rape Gap is filled!!!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (inyex)
A sure sign of Racism.... so you must pay us reparations until the Rape Gap is filled!!!
Posted by: Jessie Jackson... at March 21, 2018 02:13 PM (NgKpN)
549
Homeschoolers and their families are favorite targets of CPS and DFCS and other Social Services. They are finally getting sued and prosecuted the last 15 years and are backing off.
Public educators hate home school families and kids. They claim they are not smart as their students and are weird. Ironically, homeschooled kids out perform public school students socially, morally, spiritually, and educationally.
Public educators hate home school families and kids. They claim they are not smart as their students and are weird. Ironically, homeschooled kids out perform public school students socially, morally, spiritually, and educationally.
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (8ceaY)
550
It just seems that if your argument is 'they never change and we need to keep an eye on them' this ought to apply more broadly -- or the infinitely dangerous monsters ought never go free (or be executed, as you say).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:11 PM (39g3+)
No need to execute them unless they took a life, in which case a life for a life.
Lifelong incarceration will do.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:11 PM (39g3+)
No need to execute them unless they took a life, in which case a life for a life.
Lifelong incarceration will do.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (inyex)
551
well, the death penalty may be useful in theory but in practice it is a disaster.
That's kind of silly.
That's kind of silly.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (8gDQu)
552
But you can't keep them separated, as a practical matter. These things don't occur in a vacuum.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (NWiLs)
They are occuring in college kangaroo court bubbles. That's very different from criminal prosecution in the real world.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (NWiLs)
They are occuring in college kangaroo court bubbles. That's very different from criminal prosecution in the real world.
Posted by: Sjg at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (gDSJf)
553
It's easier to bomb a random target via a mail delivery service than it is to get a book in Austin.
Posted by: Fritz at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (2Mnv1)
554
why would you want anyone in government having the option to kill someone?
Because at least at present, the jury and appeals system keeps that power out of the hands of the government until the last possible moment.
Because at least at present, the jury and appeals system keeps that power out of the hands of the government until the last possible moment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ebenezer Scrooge at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (4xVJP)
556
4chan and others are doing that crowd sourcing thing, and it can be pretty effective, though also wild and wooly. Mostly they are good people trying to make a change in the evil old world.
But every conspiracy theory is well represented, from what I see. And sadly, more and more seem to be true. (but we did land on the moon, right ... don't tell me I'm wrong on that! I plant my flag on "of course we did" and point them to some You-Tube videos on how. lol)
But every conspiracy theory is well represented, from what I see. And sadly, more and more seem to be true. (but we did land on the moon, right ... don't tell me I'm wrong on that! I plant my flag on "of course we did" and point them to some You-Tube videos on how. lol)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (bT8Z4)
557
So has the media called for Conservative Control yet, and asked all conservatives be registered and confiscated to the happy fun camps?
*checks if any of the Japanese Internment camps are still useable*
*checks if any of the Japanese Internment camps are still useable*
Posted by: LizLem at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (hvf9s)
558
well, the death penalty may be useful in theory but in practice it is a disaster.
That's kind of silly.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March
why? was there nothing in the rest of my comment you wanted to respond to?
That's kind of silly.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March
why? was there nothing in the rest of my comment you wanted to respond to?
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (MTjB1)
559
552 But you can't keep them separated, as a practical matter. These things don't occur in a vacuum.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (NWiLs)
They are occuring in college kangaroo court bubbles. That's very different from criminal prosecution in the real world.
Posted by: Sjg at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (gDSJf)
I don't think you've been paying much attention to what's been happening in the real world.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:10 PM (NWiLs)
They are occuring in college kangaroo court bubbles. That's very different from criminal prosecution in the real world.
Posted by: Sjg at March 21, 2018 02:14 PM (gDSJf)
I don't think you've been paying much attention to what's been happening in the real world.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (NWiLs)
560
OT - cannot confirm removal skeery gunzz! stuff from UToob. Just checked a few videos I use/plan to use on disassembly/re-assembly, AR-building, etc. - no changes I can see.
Will repeat my standing astonishment that there are not several other platforms with video material. There are many small ones, I mean big ones. In any case, I hope if UToob continues to get worse that the alternatives step in and that posters migrate their stuff.
Will repeat my standing astonishment that there are not several other platforms with video material. There are many small ones, I mean big ones. In any case, I hope if UToob continues to get worse that the alternatives step in and that posters migrate their stuff.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (QDnY+)
561
The real problem with it is that when looking at statistics of those
executed for rape in the 20th century, 95% of the time (and it was a LOT
of executions) it was for the crime of a black man raping a white
woman. I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record
(in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black
woman. It was generally a charge that was never applied to whites.
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That's tragic. On that topic, there was a recent
year when around 37,000 women were raped by black guys, and potentially
no black women were raped by white men (I think this was back when hispanics were counted as whites, too):
"In
the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted
or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were
sexually assaulted or raped by a white man. "
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368
It sucks that black men were being executed for doing really bad things, but sometimes the citizens and law just works out that way.
executed for rape in the 20th century, 95% of the time (and it was a LOT
of executions) it was for the crime of a black man raping a white
woman. I think in the same period, there is only one white man on record
(in the entire country!) as having been executed for raping a black
woman. It was generally a charge that was never applied to whites.
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That's tragic. On that topic, there was a recent
year when around 37,000 women were raped by black guys, and potentially
no black women were raped by white men (I think this was back when hispanics were counted as whites, too):
"In
the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted
or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were
sexually assaulted or raped by a white man. "
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368
It sucks that black men were being executed for doing really bad things, but sometimes the citizens and law just works out that way.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Self-Driving Cars Have Killed More People Than My Guns at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (JTMqu)
562
Monk at March 21, 2018 02:08 PM (8ceaY)
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& you don't know anymore than I do
Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 21, 2018 02:11 PM (y3aQB)
I'm not close minded about it and don't dismiss it because reasons. I at least consider it
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& you don't know anymore than I do
Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 21, 2018 02:11 PM (y3aQB)
I'm not close minded about it and don't dismiss it because reasons. I at least consider it
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (8ceaY)
563
547 I actually have done that Weasel. I was shocked at how many there were that were close by.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 21, 2018 02:13 PM (zRZaJ)
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Yep. I was looking at a crime map once for this area and initially thought I had misinterpreted the results. It looked like the map was showing the location of stop signs or fire hydrants.
547 I actually have done that Weasel. I was shocked at how many there were that were close by.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 21, 2018 02:13 PM (zRZaJ)
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Yep. I was looking at a crime map once for this area and initially thought I had misinterpreted the results. It looked like the map was showing the location of stop signs or fire hydrants.
Posted by: Weasel at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (MVjcR)
564
525---...But being good means facing culture shock in the "real world".....Transition is tricky business ...
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (bT8Z4)
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Yep. No doubt about that.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 21, 2018 02:09 PM (bT8Z4)
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Yep. No doubt about that.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 21, 2018 02:16 PM (0jtPF)
565
I think a healthy distrust of government power is wise, but its going a bit too far to the right for me at least to presume government cannot be allowed to have any power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:16 PM (39g3+)
566
You pull the trigger and it is personal. FTF personal. You are at fault. But if you leave a bomb lying around it is like leaving a gun lying around, the person who picks it up is ultimately responsible for what happens. So you have absolution since you are not to blame. Not the way I think but maybe the way a nutcase bomber thinks.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew
I could see a nutcase justifying it that way.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew
I could see a nutcase justifying it that way.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 02:16 PM (TUUTu)
567
I'm beginning to believe that Reddit AMA with the Austinbomber was actually him. Interesting to read.
He didn't get to talk much before moderators pulled the plug, but it's interesting. And it points towards one of the elements of the "Heathers" TV show that has all the liberal critics screeching: the concept of online notoriety being so important to kids under 30 now that they'll breeze right on past anything remotely associated with common sense to get it. For instance, the Tide Pods Challenge.
He didn't get to talk much before moderators pulled the plug, but it's interesting. And it points towards one of the elements of the "Heathers" TV show that has all the liberal critics screeching: the concept of online notoriety being so important to kids under 30 now that they'll breeze right on past anything remotely associated with common sense to get it. For instance, the Tide Pods Challenge.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2018 02:16 PM (3J/LN)
568
well, the death penalty may be useful in theory but in practice it is a disaster.
As we apply it, yes. As others apply it, no.
As we apply it, yes. As others apply it, no.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 21, 2018 02:17 PM (inyex)
569
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (8ceaY)
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only thing worse than Reddit is 4chan & 8chan NEXT
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only thing worse than Reddit is 4chan & 8chan NEXT
Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 21, 2018 02:17 PM (y3aQB)
570
Because at least at present, the jury and appeals system keeps that power out of the hands of the government until the last possible moment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March
well, we seem to have some different thoughts on this but I think that the risk of executing an innocent person is not worth the benefit of the death penalty.
keeping the process out of the government's hands until the last possible minute means nothing. the point is the risk of executing someone innocent is too high relative to the value.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March
well, we seem to have some different thoughts on this but I think that the risk of executing an innocent person is not worth the benefit of the death penalty.
keeping the process out of the government's hands until the last possible minute means nothing. the point is the risk of executing someone innocent is too high relative to the value.
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:17 PM (MTjB1)
571
YouTube will start banning some gun videos in April.
Posted by: mrp at March 21, 2018 02:17 PM (Pqytn)
572
Nood
Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2018 02:18 PM (O5Q3r)
573
are 18650 batteries exotic, asking for a friend
Posted by: tmitsss at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (ZYgGF)
They are the guts of many laptop and Netbook batteries. Not at all rare, but they are normally concealed components.
Posted by: tmitsss at March 21, 2018 02:01 PM (ZYgGF)
They are the guts of many laptop and Netbook batteries. Not at all rare, but they are normally concealed components.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2018 02:18 PM (Dbv1R)
574
why would you want anyone in government having the option to kill someone?
Because at least at present, the jury and appeals system keeps that power out of the hands of the government until the last possible moment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
And, it definitely keeps it out of the hands of a lynch mob.
Because at least at present, the jury and appeals system keeps that power out of the hands of the government until the last possible moment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
And, it definitely keeps it out of the hands of a lynch mob.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2018 02:19 PM (TUUTu)
575
why? was there nothing in the rest of my comment you wanted to respond to?
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (MTjB1)
If you don't trust the courts, at all, then you have much bigger problems than the death penalty.
But, I'll make it simple for you, are you in favor of the death penalty for confessed murderers?
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (MTjB1)
If you don't trust the courts, at all, then you have much bigger problems than the death penalty.
But, I'll make it simple for you, are you in favor of the death penalty for confessed murderers?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 21, 2018 02:19 PM (8gDQu)
576
I think a healthy distrust of government power is wise, but its going a bit too far to the right for me at least to presume government cannot be allowed to have any power.
I agree in principle, but in practice Obama weaponized nearly every single function of government. I don't know how you restore trust after something like that, but I know that neither Trump nor Congress are doing it.
I agree in principle, but in practice Obama weaponized nearly every single function of government. I don't know how you restore trust after something like that, but I know that neither Trump nor Congress are doing it.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2018 02:19 PM (3J/LN)
577
We do have a black man from my town who finally got his execution date set, should be in July. Black guy, Clifton Williams, broke into a house during the day, raped the 93 year old woman who lived in it, then killed her and set her body on fire while he stole $40 to go do drugs.
He was supposed to be executed in 2015 but his legal team bought him two years by making the claim that he was too mentally impaired to understand what he was doing.
He was supposed to be executed in 2015 but his legal team bought him two years by making the claim that he was too mentally impaired to understand what he was doing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 02:19 PM (k1TUh)
578
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (8ceaY)
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only thing worse than Reddit is 4chan & 8chan NEXT
Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 21, 2018 02:17 PM (y3aQB)
You mean the groups that played the major role in overthrowing and exposing the criminality of the Bush/Clintons/Bush/Obama and got TGE elected.
Yeah fuck those worthless people trying to expose widespread criminality and doing the work our government and law enforcement refuses to do.
SMFH
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only thing worse than Reddit is 4chan & 8chan NEXT
Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 21, 2018 02:17 PM (y3aQB)
You mean the groups that played the major role in overthrowing and exposing the criminality of the Bush/Clintons/Bush/Obama and got TGE elected.
Yeah fuck those worthless people trying to expose widespread criminality and doing the work our government and law enforcement refuses to do.
SMFH
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:20 PM (8ceaY)
579
I think a healthy distrust of government power is wise, but its going a bit too far to the right for me at least to presume government cannot be allowed to have any power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March
then give them the power too lock people up. have you witnessed nothing in the last 20 years that would make you doubt that giving the government the power to execute people might be abused or that their rights to a fair trial to avoid execution might be abused.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March
then give them the power too lock people up. have you witnessed nothing in the last 20 years that would make you doubt that giving the government the power to execute people might be abused or that their rights to a fair trial to avoid execution might be abused.
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:20 PM (MTjB1)
580
WAsn't the blog they found several years old? Like at least 5? I saw a link to it earlier on arfcom and checked it out but I can't find the link and not super stoked about going to arfcom to find it from work.
Posted by: DanInMN at March 21, 2018 02:20 PM (h5ffp)
581
4chan is once again having a field day with this.
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say what you will about 4 chan, but what they did with shia lebouf capture the flag was epic.
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say what you will about 4 chan, but what they did with shia lebouf capture the flag was epic.
Posted by: simplemind at March 21, 2018 02:21 PM (vfSYN)
582
>>>I sure as hell don't want there to be a death penalty for rape since rape keeps getting defined downward to include consensual sex, awkward flirting and unwanted advances.
You would think more people would get that.
You would think more people would get that.
Posted by: Max Power at March 21, 2018 02:21 PM (q177U)
583
Right, the risk of executing an innocent person makes the death penalty bad, but not the risk of putting them in an institution run by gangs, rife with corruption and violence, particularly sexual violence, for life?
If I'm ever wrongfully convicted of something serious, I'd beg for the needle. Beats being stored in a rape cage with animals for the next 20+ years.
If I'm ever wrongfully convicted of something serious, I'd beg for the needle. Beats being stored in a rape cage with animals for the next 20+ years.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 02:21 PM (ckk1c)
584
560 OT - cannot confirm removal skeery gunzz! stuff from UToob. Just checked a few videos I use/plan to use on disassembly/re-assembly, AR-building, etc. - no changes I can see.
Will repeat my standing astonishment that there are not several other platforms with video material. There are many small ones, I mean big ones. In any case, I hope if UToob continues to get worse that the alternatives step in and that posters migrate their stuff.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (QDnY+)
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It's been tried, most recently with Vid.me, which wound up closing up shop because they couldn't make any money. Hosting videos reliably in HD (which is what people demand) takes buku bucks. Google actually loses money on Youtube, believe it or not. Bitchute (which streams videos via torrent) might be the future, though, because the hosting is distributed.
Will repeat my standing astonishment that there are not several other platforms with video material. There are many small ones, I mean big ones. In any case, I hope if UToob continues to get worse that the alternatives step in and that posters migrate their stuff.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (QDnY+)
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It's been tried, most recently with Vid.me, which wound up closing up shop because they couldn't make any money. Hosting videos reliably in HD (which is what people demand) takes buku bucks. Google actually loses money on Youtube, believe it or not. Bitchute (which streams videos via torrent) might be the future, though, because the hosting is distributed.
Posted by: Jackal at March 21, 2018 02:21 PM (DUdit)
585
was he ever put on drugs? I mean like ritalin or adderal.
Posted by: x at March 21, 2018 02:21 PM (nFwvY)
586
So he was homeschool in a Christian household.
How many mosque bombers were schooled at a madrassa and were raised in Muslim households?
How many mosque bombers were schooled at a madrassa and were raised in Muslim households?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at March 21, 2018 02:22 PM (uDcBt)
587
he's a registered dem
Posted by: me at March 21, 2018 02:22 PM (wKAaA)
588
I don't think you've been paying much attention to what's been happening in the real world.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (NWiLs)
Sure I have. These things rarely involve actual crinimal cases. Plenty of women have been caught lying to Title IX directors, very few are brazen enough to lie about being raped under oath in a courtroom where they could face serious reprecussions.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (NWiLs)
Sure I have. These things rarely involve actual crinimal cases. Plenty of women have been caught lying to Title IX directors, very few are brazen enough to lie about being raped under oath in a courtroom where they could face serious reprecussions.
Posted by: Sjg at March 21, 2018 02:23 PM (gDSJf)
589
The incidence of white men attacking black women also happens to be far lower. Blacks commit rapes ad murders far higher than their percentage of population.
This.
The reason that white men weren't being prosecuted for raping black women in numbers isn't because of some racist motive of the police or DA's. It was because it wasn't actually happening very much as compared to the other way around.
This.
The reason that white men weren't being prosecuted for raping black women in numbers isn't because of some racist motive of the police or DA's. It was because it wasn't actually happening very much as compared to the other way around.
Posted by: GMan at March 21, 2018 02:23 PM (sxq57)
590
Daily Mail in London led with a subheadline identifying the Austin Bomber as a "Devout Christian". You parse the text of the underlying story and find no mention of how they came to that conclusion. Funny the Daily Mail never talks about the "spodey dope" suicide Muslim bombers as "Devout Muslims".
There's also a reference to "exotic batteries" ordered from Asia which the bomber used in his bombs. I don't know how exotic ordering a LiPo (lithium polymer) battery from China is. Several thousand model airplane hobbyists flying electric powered drones or airplanes order such batteries out of Asia everyday. But the cops apparently did the reasonable thing--look at the materials in the bombs--and try to figure out how the bomb maker got them.
Then--in a reminder that everything on the Internet can probably be tracked, they used Google to figure out who had ordered such batteries (presumably focusing on the Austin area) and that Google search helped identify the suspect.
There's also a reference to "exotic batteries" ordered from Asia which the bomber used in his bombs. I don't know how exotic ordering a LiPo (lithium polymer) battery from China is. Several thousand model airplane hobbyists flying electric powered drones or airplanes order such batteries out of Asia everyday. But the cops apparently did the reasonable thing--look at the materials in the bombs--and try to figure out how the bomb maker got them.
Then--in a reminder that everything on the Internet can probably be tracked, they used Google to figure out who had ordered such batteries (presumably focusing on the Austin area) and that Google search helped identify the suspect.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 21, 2018 02:23 PM (Sda6L)
591
>>> Personally, I think recidivist child molesters should be executed as a perfunctory matter-of-course: three strikes and you're dead. But that's just me.
Troyriser, the left loves the idolizes native american culture as this pure way of life before the white man showed up. Fine, let us return to the justice system of the eastern coastal native americans.
They did not play when it came to harming kids. Harm a child, you were killed. End of story.
Troyriser, the left loves the idolizes native american culture as this pure way of life before the white man showed up. Fine, let us return to the justice system of the eastern coastal native americans.
They did not play when it came to harming kids. Harm a child, you were killed. End of story.
Posted by: LizLem at March 21, 2018 02:24 PM (hvf9s)
592
Just as there are degrees of homicide, I think there can be degrees of Rape that the death penalty should be an option.
I definitely think a person who raped a preteen/ infant deserve worse than the death penalty.
I definitely think a person who raped a preteen/ infant deserve worse than the death penalty.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 21, 2018 02:24 PM (woCRW)
593
582 >>>I sure as hell don't want there to be a death penalty for rape since rape keeps getting defined downward to include consensual sex, awkward flirting and unwanted advances.
You would think more people would get that.
Posted by: Max Power
yeah, if you're going to redefine drunken regret sex as rape, then the penalty needs to come down to like $11
You would think more people would get that.
Posted by: Max Power
yeah, if you're going to redefine drunken regret sex as rape, then the penalty needs to come down to like $11
Posted by: x at March 21, 2018 02:25 PM (nFwvY)
594
"well, we seem to have some different thoughts on this but I think that the risk of executing an innocent person is not worth the benefit of the death penalty. "
So I can see that where there is some legitimate question as to guilt - but the problem is that there are a lot of cases where there is no question at all about innocence. Such as the case of the Ft. Hood shooter, who did his killings in front of a roomful of people and who after the fact said he was glad he killed them and would do it again? No chance of executing an innocent man there.
I would go so far as to agree that if there is any slight chance at all, and the guy maintains his innocence, then life without parole. But in these heinous crimes where there is absolutely no doubt at all (Nick Cruz, anyone) then this is no argument against the DP.
So I can see that where there is some legitimate question as to guilt - but the problem is that there are a lot of cases where there is no question at all about innocence. Such as the case of the Ft. Hood shooter, who did his killings in front of a roomful of people and who after the fact said he was glad he killed them and would do it again? No chance of executing an innocent man there.
I would go so far as to agree that if there is any slight chance at all, and the guy maintains his innocence, then life without parole. But in these heinous crimes where there is absolutely no doubt at all (Nick Cruz, anyone) then this is no argument against the DP.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 02:25 PM (k1TUh)
595
Post 589 by GMan---the reason is that gentlemen prefer blondes.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 21, 2018 02:25 PM (Sda6L)
596
then give them the power too lock people up. have you witnessed nothing in the last 20 years that would make you doubt that giving the government the power to execute people might be abused or that their rights to a fair trial to avoid execution might be abused.
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:20 PM (MTjB1)
Most of the abuse occurs with juries. It's the jury system that is the weakest point.
What IS needed are serious and utterly merciless punishments for officers of the court that abuse their authority. That is really the missing piece. People like Mike Nifong need to get prison sentences as long as my arm, or even the death penalty (if they tried to put people in jeopardy of that punishment). But Nifong got off after all his abuse with pretty much nothing. ANd that Crystal Shake Whatshername, also. The prohibition to bearing false witness is one of the top ten commandments for a good reason.
So, I don't see the problem with our courts nearly as much as with our not punishing those who abuse the courts. But, the death penalty is an important punishment and certainly should stay. There are crimes that are more than savage and depraved enough - and for which there is more than enough clear evidence or even confessions - that warrant nothing less than the death penalty (and most times it shouldn't be anything near painless,either).
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:20 PM (MTjB1)
Most of the abuse occurs with juries. It's the jury system that is the weakest point.
What IS needed are serious and utterly merciless punishments for officers of the court that abuse their authority. That is really the missing piece. People like Mike Nifong need to get prison sentences as long as my arm, or even the death penalty (if they tried to put people in jeopardy of that punishment). But Nifong got off after all his abuse with pretty much nothing. ANd that Crystal Shake Whatshername, also. The prohibition to bearing false witness is one of the top ten commandments for a good reason.
So, I don't see the problem with our courts nearly as much as with our not punishing those who abuse the courts. But, the death penalty is an important punishment and certainly should stay. There are crimes that are more than savage and depraved enough - and for which there is more than enough clear evidence or even confessions - that warrant nothing less than the death penalty (and most times it shouldn't be anything near painless,either).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 21, 2018 02:25 PM (8gDQu)
597
why? was there nothing in the rest of my comment you wanted to respond to?
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (MTjB1)
If you don't trust the courts, at all, then you have much bigger problems than the death penalty.
But, I'll make it simple for you, are you in favor of the death penalty for confessed murderers?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March
First, you have made something of a leap to interpret my comment as not having faith in or trust for the courts. where we differ is that I think they are human institutions so necessarily fallible and corruptible. You seem to think otherwise or not to have thought at all.
So, regarding confessed murderers, in theory fine whack em. However, there are at least two problems with that. First you have to be able to ensure that they are legitimate confessions and not coerced somehow.
Second, I do not know that killing people is really a good thing. There is a big difference between shooting someone in self defense or the heat of passion and slowly deliberately executing someone.
I do not have any problem with executing someone for committing the crime that mandates that punishment. However, that assumes we know, meaning we know for certain that they are guilty.
Beyond that, there are other issues. There is lots of collateral damage that results from the execution process that is going to wind up hurting other people that did not commit the crime.
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:15 PM (MTjB1)
If you don't trust the courts, at all, then you have much bigger problems than the death penalty.
But, I'll make it simple for you, are you in favor of the death penalty for confessed murderers?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March
First, you have made something of a leap to interpret my comment as not having faith in or trust for the courts. where we differ is that I think they are human institutions so necessarily fallible and corruptible. You seem to think otherwise or not to have thought at all.
So, regarding confessed murderers, in theory fine whack em. However, there are at least two problems with that. First you have to be able to ensure that they are legitimate confessions and not coerced somehow.
Second, I do not know that killing people is really a good thing. There is a big difference between shooting someone in self defense or the heat of passion and slowly deliberately executing someone.
I do not have any problem with executing someone for committing the crime that mandates that punishment. However, that assumes we know, meaning we know for certain that they are guilty.
Beyond that, there are other issues. There is lots of collateral damage that results from the execution process that is going to wind up hurting other people that did not commit the crime.
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:26 PM (MTjB1)
598
Thanks for that info, Jackal. I am not sure any of the gunzzz! videos I use are in HD, but maybe they are. Not really needed for the purpose, actually.
There is at least one platform that hosts firearms stuff, can never remember the name, no idea about it's finances.
Just seems that the political purge of UToob would result in other outlets being set up for the refugee topics/people, whether that's extremely distributed (individuals) or bare-bones non-profit/donation-supported sites.
There is at least one platform that hosts firearms stuff, can never remember the name, no idea about it's finances.
Just seems that the political purge of UToob would result in other outlets being set up for the refugee topics/people, whether that's extremely distributed (individuals) or bare-bones non-profit/donation-supported sites.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:26 PM (QDnY+)
599
Kid diddlers and child porn consumers get one strike. Put them in gen pop and the need for the death penalty doesn't exist.
Posted by: NCKate
Yep. My daughter has a friend whose father was a convicted child molester. He lasted one week in GenPop before being bludgeoned to death by his fellow bunkies.
Posted by: NCKate
Yep. My daughter has a friend whose father was a convicted child molester. He lasted one week in GenPop before being bludgeoned to death by his fellow bunkies.
Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2018 02:26 PM (oiNtH)
600
"Troyriser, the left loves the idolizes native american culture as this pure way of life before the white man showed up. Fine, let us return to the justice system of the eastern coastal native americans.
They did not play when it came to harming kids. Harm a child, you were killed. End of story."
Meanwhile, in the land of Mohammed, rape a child and it's just another day ending in a "y".
They did not play when it came to harming kids. Harm a child, you were killed. End of story."
Meanwhile, in the land of Mohammed, rape a child and it's just another day ending in a "y".
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2018 02:27 PM (k1TUh)
601
There are probably a thousand or more people in prison right now for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 21, 2018 02:28 PM (woCRW)
602
598 Thanks for that info, Jackal. I am not sure any of the gunzzz! videos I use are in HD, but maybe they are. Not really needed for the purpose, actually.
There is at least one platform that hosts firearms stuff, can never remember the name, no idea about it's finances.
Just seems that the political purge of UToob would result in other outlets being set up for the refugee topics/people, whether that's extremely distributed (individuals) or bare-bones non-profit/donation-supported sites.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:26 PM (QDnY+)
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Full30.com. They're kind of a joke. Some of the big gun channels uploaded there for a while but most of their accounts are dead as far as I know. Karl from InRangeTV tried it for a while but didn't have much positive to say about it. Mac from Military Arms Channel is supposed to be a shareholder or stakeholder of some sort there.
There is at least one platform that hosts firearms stuff, can never remember the name, no idea about it's finances.
Just seems that the political purge of UToob would result in other outlets being set up for the refugee topics/people, whether that's extremely distributed (individuals) or bare-bones non-profit/donation-supported sites.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:26 PM (QDnY+)
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Full30.com. They're kind of a joke. Some of the big gun channels uploaded there for a while but most of their accounts are dead as far as I know. Karl from InRangeTV tried it for a while but didn't have much positive to say about it. Mac from Military Arms Channel is supposed to be a shareholder or stakeholder of some sort there.
Posted by: Jackal at March 21, 2018 02:30 PM (DUdit)
603
Right, the risk of executing an innocent person makes the death penalty bad, but not the risk of putting them in an institution run by gangs, rife with corruption and violence, particularly sexual violence, for life?
If I'm ever wrongfully convicted of something serious, I'd beg for the needle. Beats being stored in a rape cage with animals for the next 20+ years.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March
so we cannot manage a prison but we can manage the death penalty process? how about working on managing the prisons?
lots of guys talk tough about wanting the needle right up until it comes time for the business to get serious.
you cannot undo the death penalty. enough people get out of prison after being wrongly convicted to make the death penalty unreasonable.
anyone who is arguing for the death penalty is basically making a utilitarian argument not a rights based argument.
whoever is for the death penalty is fine with innocent people being put to death every so often.
If I'm ever wrongfully convicted of something serious, I'd beg for the needle. Beats being stored in a rape cage with animals for the next 20+ years.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March
so we cannot manage a prison but we can manage the death penalty process? how about working on managing the prisons?
lots of guys talk tough about wanting the needle right up until it comes time for the business to get serious.
you cannot undo the death penalty. enough people get out of prison after being wrongly convicted to make the death penalty unreasonable.
anyone who is arguing for the death penalty is basically making a utilitarian argument not a rights based argument.
whoever is for the death penalty is fine with innocent people being put to death every so often.
Posted by: yankeefifth` at March 21, 2018 02:31 PM (MTjB1)
604
Posted by: Monk at March 21, 2018 02:20 PM (8ceaY)
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You mean like the people who said HRC was going to be arrested ?
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You mean like the people who said HRC was going to be arrested ?
Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 21, 2018 02:31 PM (y3aQB)
605
well, you can just count the telegraph as anti-christian muslim and communist propaganda. The left needs to embrace the reality of the behavior of their own monsters...behavior that far exceeds the random whackos who aren't outright socialists that they use as examples of normal conservatives and Christians.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 02:31 PM (DQC26)
606
The reason that white men weren't being prosecuted for raping black women in numbers isn't because of some racist motive of the police or DA's. It was because it wasn't actually happening very much as compared to the other way around.
Um, the South had places that would absolutely use the criminal justice system to deal with "uppity" blacks and to punish them for daring to touch a white woman.
Um, the South had places that would absolutely use the criminal justice system to deal with "uppity" blacks and to punish them for daring to touch a white woman.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 21, 2018 02:31 PM (39g3+)
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Just seems that the political purge of UToob would result in other outlets being set up for the refugee topics/people, whether that's extremely distributed (individuals) or bare-bones non-profit/donation-supported sites.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:26 PM (QDnY+)
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Personally, I think it's like Twitter and Gab.ai: The level of pain hasn't reached the point that people are willing to jump. Monitization is a huge issue, but it's one that might be receding in importance with the rise of things like Maker Support and Patreon.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 21, 2018 02:26 PM (QDnY+)
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Personally, I think it's like Twitter and Gab.ai: The level of pain hasn't reached the point that people are willing to jump. Monitization is a huge issue, but it's one that might be receding in importance with the rise of things like Maker Support and Patreon.
Posted by: Jackal at March 21, 2018 02:33 PM (DUdit)
608
If I'm ever wrongfully convicted of something serious, I'd beg for the needle. Beats being stored in a rape cage with animals for the next 20+ years.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 02:21 PM (ckk1c)
I work with alcoholics and drug addicts as part of my own recovery, sponsoring several in that recovery fellowship I won't name here. Many of them have prison records, some of them for serious violent crimes that put them in maximum security. It isn't that stories of prison rape are overblown--it happens--but according to my ex-con acquaintances, it mainly happens to the inmates who don't stand up for themselves. Act like a sheep and you get sheared.
Sure, standing up for yourself and taking no shit might mean a beatdown, but it beats the alternative.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 02:21 PM (ckk1c)
I work with alcoholics and drug addicts as part of my own recovery, sponsoring several in that recovery fellowship I won't name here. Many of them have prison records, some of them for serious violent crimes that put them in maximum security. It isn't that stories of prison rape are overblown--it happens--but according to my ex-con acquaintances, it mainly happens to the inmates who don't stand up for themselves. Act like a sheep and you get sheared.
Sure, standing up for yourself and taking no shit might mean a beatdown, but it beats the alternative.
Posted by: troyriser at March 21, 2018 02:33 PM (K8f5g)
609
The reason that white men weren't being prosecuted for raping black women in numbers isn't because of some racist motive of the police or DA's. It was because it wasn't actually happening very much as compared to the other way around.
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see that's white privilege...you assume different outcomes in crime are not inequitable crime detection but an actual, get this, difference in crimes committed.
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see that's white privilege...you assume different outcomes in crime are not inequitable crime detection but an actual, get this, difference in crimes committed.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 02:34 PM (DQC26)
610
The state of Texas still has an invocation before official state business. The prayer is to GOD. I work for the state here in Texas.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 21, 2018 02:36 PM (kufk0)
611
whoever is for the death penalty is fine with innocent people being put to death every so often.
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are you okay with the death penalty for prisoner's who kill other inmates, or guards?
You know especially if the act of killing the guard is on video and witnessed. And the guards blood is all over the perp who is still holding the shiv and trying to kill someone else when he is caught.
Because, there is a valid reason for the death penalty and there are cases where there is no doubt. No doubt at all. Zero doubt. Even a smidgen.
whoever is for the death penalty is fine with innocent people being put to death every so often.
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are you okay with the death penalty for prisoner's who kill other inmates, or guards?
You know especially if the act of killing the guard is on video and witnessed. And the guards blood is all over the perp who is still holding the shiv and trying to kill someone else when he is caught.
Because, there is a valid reason for the death penalty and there are cases where there is no doubt. No doubt at all. Zero doubt. Even a smidgen.
Posted by: simplemind at March 21, 2018 02:36 PM (O4Rfs)
612
don't stand up for themselves. Act like a sheep and you get sheared.
Sure, standing up for yourself and taking no shit might mean a beatdown, but it beats the alternative.
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reminds me of an old Greaseman skit:
guy gets sent to prison and he figures he'll avoid trouble by becoming a sexual partner of the biggest baddest guy in prison. So he goes up to Tom and says "hey big boy..."
A few years later, he was joking with another inmate and mentions, "aren't you scared of the gay prison raping?" The other inmate says, "nah, most of us just banded together and told Tom to leave us alone and we've been fine ever since".
Sure, standing up for yourself and taking no shit might mean a beatdown, but it beats the alternative.
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reminds me of an old Greaseman skit:
guy gets sent to prison and he figures he'll avoid trouble by becoming a sexual partner of the biggest baddest guy in prison. So he goes up to Tom and says "hey big boy..."
A few years later, he was joking with another inmate and mentions, "aren't you scared of the gay prison raping?" The other inmate says, "nah, most of us just banded together and told Tom to leave us alone and we've been fine ever since".
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 21, 2018 02:38 PM (DQC26)
613
Yes, I do accept that some innocent people will be convicted and be put to death, some will be put in prison for life and never freed, some will spend a good deal of time in prison before being freed. Unjust deaths happen; I accept it. Just like I accept it in other contexts. For example, the ready availability of guns in this country inevitably means that some people will unjustly die due to gun violence; the ready availability of cars and booze means some people will unjustly die on the roads. A lot of choices we make about how society is organized involves making peace with the death of others on utilitarian grounds.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 02:40 PM (ckk1c)
614
549 Homeschoolers and their families are favorite targets of CPS and DFCS and other Social Services. They are finally getting sued and prosecuted the last 15 years and are backing off.
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Which is why I happily pay my membership dues to the Home School Legal Defense Association - https://hslda.org/
I live in Georgia, which is still mostly laissez faire regarding Home Schoolers. But some districts and individual SJW zealots will try to do anything they can to intimidate individual families who aren't kissing the government school ring.
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Which is why I happily pay my membership dues to the Home School Legal Defense Association - https://hslda.org/
I live in Georgia, which is still mostly laissez faire regarding Home Schoolers. But some districts and individual SJW zealots will try to do anything they can to intimidate individual families who aren't kissing the government school ring.
Posted by: Carefully vetted CNN report at March 21, 2018 02:41 PM (yFgwo)
615
A lot of choices we make about how society is organized involves making peace with the death of others on utilitarian grounds.
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Bullsh!+
This is a perfect world until Western Civilization ruined it!!!!
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Bullsh!+
This is a perfect world until Western Civilization ruined it!!!!
Posted by: woke tard Mc Virtue signaler at March 21, 2018 02:43 PM (1afyD)
616
Troyriser:
Rape only happens to weaklings who let it happen to them sounds like something the wolves preying on the sheep would say, doesn't it?
Rape only happens to weaklings who let it happen to them sounds like something the wolves preying on the sheep would say, doesn't it?
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at March 21, 2018 02:45 PM (ckk1c)
617
Any info on his 2 "roommates"? Was he radicalized, maybe? The one blog post was from 2012. Lots of things have changed over the past 6 years.
Posted by: rustbucket at March 21, 2018 02:51 PM (E2hov)
618
His blog dates to when he was seventeen (and younger) and still under his mother's thumb in home-school high school. That's about seven years, and he may have had a personal falling out with the teachings of childhood.
If those 2012 are commonplace and typical for a Christian evangelical outlook ( his views then are fairly tame, though I do wonder a bit why he took an interest in the sex-offender registry), there is some *present* evidence of self-centered, nihilistic cruelty inflicted on the town he has known his whole life that existential crisis is in progress. Whether its the result of his idea of a bizarre Mission from God, or a rage-quit of religion and community life, he hates everybody and wanted revenge.
He's just the right age for mental illness to mushroom into full view, so maybe that's part of it.
I'll be interested to see if there is anything there but an emptiness and anger. Maybe he's was sick and no one caught it in time.
If those 2012 are commonplace and typical for a Christian evangelical outlook ( his views then are fairly tame, though I do wonder a bit why he took an interest in the sex-offender registry), there is some *present* evidence of self-centered, nihilistic cruelty inflicted on the town he has known his whole life that existential crisis is in progress. Whether its the result of his idea of a bizarre Mission from God, or a rage-quit of religion and community life, he hates everybody and wanted revenge.
He's just the right age for mental illness to mushroom into full view, so maybe that's part of it.
I'll be interested to see if there is anything there but an emptiness and anger. Maybe he's was sick and no one caught it in time.
Posted by: SarahW at March 21, 2018 03:16 PM (Sp1NT)
619
Sad of me to do this, but I'm surprised I was pretty spot on. I said white from the beginning, late teens to early 20s. Never thought it was Islam, and figured he was a loner.
Shocked how close I was since it was nothing but instinct.
Never tried to figure motive.
So yes, pathetic I'm tooting my own armchair detective Nancy Drew skills. *hangs head in shame*
Shocked how close I was since it was nothing but instinct.
Never tried to figure motive.
So yes, pathetic I'm tooting my own armchair detective Nancy Drew skills. *hangs head in shame*
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 21, 2018 03:29 PM (n2LT3)
620
how don't you know the kid is making bombs and acting strangely.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (VpIIl)
Maybe Grandma hadn't seen him lately.His parents - they might have been worried about him without suspecting mass murder. Parents of the mentally disturbed don't always realize the significance of signs they do observe - (slowly boiled frogs in some respects) and have a lot of denial and hopes the kid will snap out of it.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 21, 2018 01:24 PM (VpIIl)
Maybe Grandma hadn't seen him lately.His parents - they might have been worried about him without suspecting mass murder. Parents of the mentally disturbed don't always realize the significance of signs they do observe - (slowly boiled frogs in some respects) and have a lot of denial and hopes the kid will snap out of it.
Posted by: SarahW at March 21, 2018 03:42 PM (Sp1NT)
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I wonder if he has any significant medical history.
I read he helped build the house he lives in and co-owns, with his dad. Maybe he got a nail gun to the temple or a beam dropped on his head. Maybe he did go on some third world mission and amoebas ate his brain.
Too soon to say what his major damage is.
I read he helped build the house he lives in and co-owns, with his dad. Maybe he got a nail gun to the temple or a beam dropped on his head. Maybe he did go on some third world mission and amoebas ate his brain.
Too soon to say what his major damage is.
Posted by: SarahW at March 21, 2018 03:47 PM (Sp1NT)
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Conditt was homeschooled in a "conservative" Mormon home.That was his worldview as a newly graduated( by his mom) at 18 years of age.
He attended community college after losing his job at a conducter prod small business.He was let go.
That's most likely were his berniebro antifa like behaviors were honed.
I believe he had a psychotic break( schizophrenia)
He attended community college after losing his job at a conducter prod small business.He was let go.
That's most likely were his berniebro antifa like behaviors were honed.
I believe he had a psychotic break( schizophrenia)
Posted by: Infidelisous at March 21, 2018 08:29 PM (sO3eN)
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