Mini Chess Thread 02-10-2018

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As is usual, the chess/dress pr0n thread is an open thread, so there is no such thing as an off-topic comment.



Easier Problem - Black To Play (184)

Hint: Black should bring his last piece into play

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More Challenging Problem - White To Play (226)

Hint: Look at that fat, juicy knight just sitting there.

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3r2kr/5ppp/pqnQp3/1p2P3/5P2/1N3P2/PPP4P/2KR3R w - - 0 1


Dress Pr0n For the 'Ettes

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Solutions Update

Easier Problem - Black To Play

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6k1/5p2/R6p/N1p1b1p1/P1Br2b1/1P2K1P1/5P2/8 b - - 0 1

Mate in 2:

1...Bf4+!

Now all of Black's pieces are after the white king like a pack of hunting dogs.

2.gxf4 gxf4#

Arf! Arf! Owoooooooooo!!!


More Challenging Problem - White To Play

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3r2kr/5ppp/pqnQp3/1p2P3/5P2/1N3P2/PPP4P/2KR3R w - - 0 1

White picks off the knight, thus:

1. Qxc6!

Black has 3 sub-optimal responses:

a) 1...Qxc6 and it's mate after 2.Rxd8+ Qe8 3.Rxe8#

b) It's also mate after 1...Rxd1+ 2.Rxd1 Qxc6 3.Rd8+ Qe8 4.Rxe8#

c) Or Black can give up the queen with 1...Rf8 2. Qxb6

As it turns out, the best Black can hope for is:

1...Qe3+
2.Kb1 Rf8
3.Qe4 Qxe4
4.fxe4

Once the queens are off the board, White is up a knight and his pieces have a great deal more mobility than Black's, which are all bunched up in the corner. So White should have a winning advantage.

Hope to see you all again next week!


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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 04:48 PM




Comments

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1 Greek chess, what a tragedy

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 10, 2018 04:44 PM (5Td5d)

2 Yay, something to make me feel extra stupid.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 04:46 PM (HN3VU)

3 Just remember Insomniac, "it's good to be the King!"

Unless someone yells "checkmate!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 10, 2018 04:47 PM (5Td5d)

4 wow again. Roomy. I'll call the others.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 10, 2018 04:47 PM (2sCft)

5 Top dress pic, brunette on the left, please.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 04:49 PM (xJa6I)

6 Those two in the to photo are up to no good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2018 04:49 PM (qJtVm)

7 I like the bottom dress. It's.....pleasing.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 10, 2018 04:50 PM (2sCft)

8 @Eris

Yep, they look saucy

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 04:50 PM (xJa6I)

9 I love chess. Can't play it though.

Posted by: Lyle Tannerov at February 10, 2018 04:51 PM (ECDXs)

10 saucy minxes?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 10, 2018 04:51 PM (5Td5d)

11 Love the last dress...if only I still had that figure!

Posted by: IC at February 10, 2018 04:51 PM (K1SSh)

12
Saucy passel of minxes in those photos.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 10, 2018 04:51 PM (wu1Av)

13 Wow, even I got the first one.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 04:52 PM (gC2IV)

14
Well, well. Great minds, etc.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 10, 2018 04:52 PM (wu1Av)

15 I'm partial to dresses that fall above the knee.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 10, 2018 04:52 PM (r9UYA)

16 Looks like the Bishops have swords and shields in that antique chess set. Warrior priests! But poor posture. It's like contrapposto combined with slouching.

Posted by: Hands at February 10, 2018 04:52 PM (EzdLW)

17 15 I'm partial to dresses that fall above the knee.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 10, 2018 04:52 PM (r9UYA)

I'm partial to dresses that fall on the floor.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 10, 2018 04:53 PM (tMFgx)

18 OT I typed this long sock so you Morons gotta at least see it:

The latest Andrew McCarthy NRO post is a must-read. Seriously.





>>I'll put it this way. The last three words from the piece are "I was wrong."








Welcome to the party, Andy.


Don't do it, that's how the Golden Scalp Weasel lures you in. Next thing you know you're using bigly in a sentence.

Posted by: #SalonLukeWarmDouchbagandaQuarters at February 10, 2018 04:54 PM (FhXTo)

19 Gold queen with a spear...

"The queens we use would not excite you."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 10, 2018 04:54 PM (5Td5d)

20 15 I'm partial to dresses that fall above the knee.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 10, 2018 04:52 PM (r9UYA)

Dresses that start two inches above where the stockings start.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 04:54 PM (xJa6I)

21 19 Gold queen with a spear...

"The queens we use would not excite you."
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 10, 2018 04:54 PM (5Td5d)

"So you'd better go back to your bars, your temples, your...massage parlors."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 04:55 PM (xJa6I)

22 First mini chess thread I've managed to find on time ... now back to the puzzles.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 10, 2018 04:55 PM (vWMNq)

23 Does Kim Jung Un's sister look like Rose from The Last Jedi?

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 04:55 PM (LiyEm)

24
Top dress pic, brunette on the left, please.


She's already downed half of her drink. You've got a shot.

Posted by: Hands at February 10, 2018 04:55 PM (EzdLW)

25 Those two in the first pic are sure looking saucily at the camera.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (pvjTE)

26 The latest Andrew McCarthy NRO post is a must-read. Seriously.

Link?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (prh9V)

27 First problem: Bf4+ PxB PxP mate.

Second Problem: QxN QxQ RxR+ and mate. If QxN RxR+ then RxR QxQ Rd8+ and mate.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (42M22)

28 Easy one was ... well ... easy.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 10, 2018 04:57 PM (vWMNq)

29 Those chess pieces look, well, stabby.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 10, 2018 04:57 PM (r9UYA)

30 Anyone else getting a Samsung redirect ad on the front page? I'm seeing it while browsing on my phone.

Posted by: tunakermt at February 10, 2018 04:58 PM (/K9+/)

31 Those probably are not their first drinks of the day.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 10, 2018 04:58 PM (pvjTE)

32 McCarthy OM-

https://tinyurl.com/yadvzsqp

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 04:59 PM (DKwRk)

33 King me

Posted by: jsg at February 10, 2018 04:59 PM (NW/+j)

34 26 The latest Andrew McCarthy NRO post is a must-read. Seriously.

Link?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (prh9V)

http://www.nationalreview.com/
article/456287/grassley-graham-memo- affirms-nunes-memo-fisa-steele-dossier

Remove spaces

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 05:00 PM (xJa6I)

35 Nice chess pieces. I bet that set costs a fortune.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 10, 2018 05:01 PM (mpXpK)

36 First pic looks like two Southern belles in sun dresses from days gone by.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 10, 2018 05:02 PM (mpXpK)

37
Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (42M22)

Can't black just give up the knight to avoid mate?

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 10, 2018 05:02 PM (vWMNq)

38 https://tinyurl.com/yadvzsqp

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 04:59 PM (DKwRk)


Thanks!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:03 PM (prh9V)

39 32. Damn......

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 10, 2018 05:03 PM (fA1SL)

40 If what McCarthy says is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, there had better be indictments. Early retirements won't do.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:03 PM (gC2IV)

41 35 Nice chess pieces. I bet that set costs a fortune.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 10, 2018 05:01 PM (mpXpK)


Right. I found it by Googling for "expensive chess sets".

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:03 PM (prh9V)

42 Confession:

I still think in "descriptive notation," and find "algebraic notation" bothersome and difficult-to-remember.

In other words, when the pawn in front of the king moves two squares forward, I think "P-K4," and and sure as heck don't think "e4." Same is true for all other moves. In fact, I think and calculate using descriptive notation (a.k.a. "English notation"), and would find it impossible to think in algebraic.

I suppose this has to do with how I learn the pieces move, and one's brain gets the original pattern etched into it. I also think that descriptive notation actually helps to understand various strategic and positional patterns more easily, something lacking in algebraic. (E.g. "A lone king vs. a king and a rook pawn is a draw" or "attack bishop-seven next to an uncastled king, because bishop-seven is usually weak and unguarded" and so forth.)

Bobby Fisher was the last grandmaster to insist on writing down the moves in descriptive notation, and also "thought" in descriptive. Now it is "illegal" to use descriptive in a tournament game: if you write "P-K4" or "N-B3" on your scoresheet, you will be disqualified and forfeit the game. Seriously!

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:04 PM (42M22)

43 Second Problem: QxN QxQ RxR+ and mate. If QxN RxR+ then RxR QxQ Rd8+ and mate.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (42M22)


All true, but you're missing another line for Black where he can avoid the immediate mating threats.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:05 PM (prh9V)

44 37
Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (42M22)

Can't black just give up the knight to avoid mate?

Posted by: Off the reservation


Yes, but then he's a knight down and will lose eventually. QxN is just an easy way to win a knight (and eventually the game), not a forced mate.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:06 PM (42M22)

45 First pic looks like two Southern belles in sun dresses from days gone by.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 10, 2018 05:02 PM (mpXpK)

The dresses are getting plenty of sun; the ladies not so much. Pity, that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:06 PM (Dbv1R)

46 Yes, that easier problem can be solved, but there is not enough room in the margins to write down the proof of it.

Posted by: Fermat Last at February 10, 2018 05:07 PM (ECDXs)

47 41
Right. I found it by Googling for "expensive chess sets".


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:03 PM (prh9V)


LOL, I wonder what would come up if you did Bing that

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 10, 2018 05:07 PM (mpXpK)

48 The Stooges got it right:Cheese triggeres same part of brain as hard drugs,say scientists

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/288322/

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 05:08 PM (LiyEm)

49 Those chess pieces look, well, stabby.

-
Toxic asculinity with an extra helping of testosterone.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 10, 2018 05:08 PM (+y/Ru)

50 Remember the Franklin Mint(I think it was)US Civil War chess set?

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 05:09 PM (LiyEm)

51 >>If what McCarthy says is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, there had better be indictments. Early retirements won't do.

Rumor floating around that Strzok has already hired friend of Hillary and DC big shot lawyer David Boies.

How he can afford that kind of representation is an interesting question.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (/tuJf)

52
"Where are the men?
Is this a nunnery?
Where are the men?
We want some fun, a re-
Fusal to find some
Will leave us completely bored,
And if our wishes are ignored
We swear to jump overboard."

- Cole Porter, "Anything Goes"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (yu05q)

53 It's taken a few Olympics, but it looks like the rest of the world caught up to the US in snowboarding. Who knew there was good pot in Norway?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (gC2IV)

54 Bobby Fisher was the last grandmaster to insist on writing down the moves in descriptive notation, and also "thought" in descriptive. Now it is "illegal" to use descriptive in a tournament game: if you write "P-K4" or "N-B3" on your scoresheet, you will be disqualified and forfeit the game. Seriously!
Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:04 PM (42M22)


Really. I did not know that.

I taught myself chess in the 1970s with Descriptive Notation. When algebraic came along, I hated it and avoided it wherever possible. But I finally gave up in the 1990s and concentrated on using AN. Now I am used to it and I "think" in AN, whereas before I thought in DN. I have found AN to be an all-around better system now that I know it through and through. In fact, DN sometimes throws me for a loop as I forget that Black has to count from his side of the board, so N-B3 is ambiguous, and depends if you're White or Black. It used to not bother me and I automatically made the adjustment, but now, I forget and make mistakes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (prh9V)

55 43 Second Problem: QxN QxQ RxR+ and mate. If QxN RxR+ then RxR QxQ Rd8+ and mate.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (42M22)

All true, but you're missing another line for Black where he can avoid the immediate mating threats.
Posted by: OregonMuse


True, but if QxN Qb8 (to stop mate), then white is just a piece and a pawn up and can cruise to effortless victory.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (42M22)

56 So I go the grocery store, and of course all the Valentines garbage is everywhere. I'm pushing my cart in the aisle, and there's a stand to the side with all kinds of Valentine's Day cards with "love" and shit all over. I swear to you, I felt and had to suppress the impulse to kick it over. What the hell is wrong with me?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (NWiLs)

57 Here's the first thing you get. A $33,0000 crystal set.


http://tinyurl.com/yd9ztte7

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (mpXpK)

58 51 The same way low level mobsters can get high priced lawyers...

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 05:11 PM (LiyEm)

59
The Stooges got it right:Cheese triggeres same part of brain as hard drugs,say scientists


Moe! Larry! The cheese! ... Moe! Larry! The cheese!

https://youtu.be/_Y6YPjcQJ4g?t=63

Posted by: Curly at February 10, 2018 05:11 PM (EzdLW)

60 Yes, but then he's a knight down and will lose eventually. QxN is just an easy way to win a knight (and eventually the game), not a forced mate.
Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:06 PM (42M22)


And that's the best line (for Black), giving up that knight with no compensation for it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:12 PM (prh9V)

61 1.Qxc6 Qe3+ 2.Kc1 Rf8
White is a piece up. Is there more to it?

Posted by: bof at February 10, 2018 05:12 PM (bNftD)

62 51 >>If what McCarthy says is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, there had better be indictments. Early retirements won't do.

Rumor floating around that Strzok has already hired friend of Hillary and DC big shot lawyer David Boies.

How he can afford that kind of representation is an interesting question.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (/tuJf)

He's $1000 an hour I bet you.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:12 PM (NWiLs)

63 JackStraw, Dan Bongino tied Nuland and Strobe Talbott to the case against the State Dept.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:12 PM (20LNi)

64
I swear to you, I felt and had to suppress the impulse to kick it over. What the hell is wrong with me?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (NWiLs)


"In the Temple of Love, she was an atheist." - Honore de Balzac, The Wild Ass's Skin

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 10, 2018 05:13 PM (yu05q)

65 OM and anyone else that wants to have a look, here's the link to CT in reference to that pos Mueller and the Flynn debacle.

Prepare to become/stay pissed off.


https://tinyurl.com/y9bqqxxf

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 05:13 PM (DKwRk)

66 I knew someone here would understand thst reference...

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 05:13 PM (LiyEm)

67 61 1.Qxc6 Qe3+ 2.Kc1 Rf8
White is a piece up. Is there more to it?
Posted by: bof


I don't see anything better. But the problem as stated is simply "white to Move," and does not specify that it must be a mate in a certain number of move. So, win the piece, and then just easy-peasy win the endgame.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:14 PM (42M22)

68 I got nuthin'

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at February 10, 2018 05:15 PM (h7sWp)

69 I realize this a set-up for things to come, but no one cares about Carter Page.

Comey has to be the main target to break the case open for the general public to understand this, and Stzrok is the key to do this. Everyone understands Dirty Cop.

The Weiner lap-top is a microcosm of the larger case. A recent released text shows that Stztrok was somehow chosen to be the guy to look at the lap-top so that Comey could say "nothing to see hear move alomng."

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2018 05:15 PM (pV/54)

70 Let us all point and laugh.Wealthy New Yorkers ate furis that deBlasio plans to open a homeless shelter in their ritzy neighborhood.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/288375/

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 05:15 PM (LiyEm)

71 Oops, I meant Kb1, not Kc1.
1.Qxc6 Qe3+ 2.Kb1 Rf8

Posted by: bof at February 10, 2018 05:16 PM (bNftD)

72 61 1.Qxc6 Qe3+ 2.Kc1 Rf8
White is a piece up. Is there more to it?

Posted by: bof at February 10, 2018 05:12 PM (bNftD)


Nope. You found it.

I don't see anything better. But the problem as stated is simply "white to Move," and does not specify that it must be a mate in a certain number of move. So, win the piece, and then just easy-peasy win the endgame.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:14 PM (42M22)


Right. It's just "find the best line for White" whether it's a mate, or winning material, or getting an overwhelmingly good position.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:16 PM (prh9V)

73 "Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 04:56 PM (42M22)

Can't black just give up the knight to avoid mate?

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 10, 2018 05:02 PM (vWMNq)"

Except both the black queen and mate are threatened. If Black opens up an escape for the king, the queen is gone. What move would you suggest?

Posted by: Jim T at February 10, 2018 05:17 PM (i2Dd+)

74 Heh. He said Balzac.

Posted by: Beavis at February 10, 2018 05:17 PM (9SkN+)

75 >>JackStraw, Dan Bongino tied Nuland and Strobe Talbott to the case against the State Dept.

Not surprised. Nuland is a creature of the swamp and attached at the hip to Kerry. No way in hell Kerry didn't know what was going and maybe he actually participated in it.

And Strobe Talbott is married to Cody Shearer's sister. Brooke Shearer, Cody's sister is another long term government drone and, get this, a former aide to Hillary Clinton.

Oh what tangled webs we weave ...

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 05:18 PM (/tuJf)

76 I want Jimmy Drama biting the pillow.

For starters.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at February 10, 2018 05:18 PM (h7sWp)

77 An illegal alien trashing Gen. John Kelly is claiming to work 40 hours a week while taking 21 credit hours in one college semester. When I went to college, I was told we would be expected to spend three hours outside class for every hour in class. I wonder what major his discipline is in? Something does not seem to add up.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at February 10, 2018 05:19 PM (rdl6o)

78 Nuland was Talbott's COS at Brookings and she is now the CEO of Center for New American Security.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:20 PM (20LNi)

79 Oh,that horse faced fuck was in it up to his feed bag.

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 05:20 PM (LiyEm)

80 When the Supreme Court ruled in Heller that the Second Amendment was an individual right - it was much more profound and important than anyone realizes. Here is why:

18 U.S. Code 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

While Heller said that the ruling itself did not outlaw gun control - the applicability of 18 USC 242 does - in fact - outlaw the enforcement of any and all gun control laws, statutes, ordinances, regulations, and customs.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2018 05:20 PM (tvThN)

81

Posted by: Knight at February 10, 2018 05:21 PM (EzdLW)

82 I want Jimmy Drama biting the pillow.

Why do you hate me?
Ed Lindell

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 05:21 PM (LiyEm)

83 Here's a new name (to me anyway) to remember going forward-

Brandon L Van Grack

Evidently, this US Attorney is up to his eyeballs in this FBI/Justice op.

No, I didn't make up his name. Forget the lovebirds. Watch this guy.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 05:22 PM (DKwRk)

84 The same way low level mobsters can get high priced lawyers...

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 05:11 PM (LiyEm)

Fly the miscreants to Gitmo, and waterboard them there. If their lawyers show up, waterboard them, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:22 PM (Dbv1R)

85 Posted by: Jim T at February 10, 2018 05:17 PM (i2Dd+)

At least two other possibilities have been posted.

Qe3+ or Qb8 both work.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 10, 2018 05:22 PM (vWMNq)

86 78 Nuland was Talbott's COS at Brookings and she is now the CEO of Center for New American Security.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:20 PM (20LNi)


I don't know what Strobe Talbott is doing now, but back in the Cold War days, he was some kind of foreign policy analyst. And he was wrong about pretty much everything he talked about. He had an amazing 100% failure rate. Now that, my friends, takes talent.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:24 PM (prh9V)

87 >>>I swear to you, I felt and had to suppress the impulse to kick it over. What the hell is wrong with me?

Sounds like your cheese intake may be low.

Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 05:24 PM (q177U)

88 Someone has a thing for that Japanese model.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 10, 2018 05:24 PM (yQpMk)

89 Sounds like your cheese intake may be low.
Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 05:24 PM (q177U)

My anger, bitterness and resentment levels are too high.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:25 PM (NWiLs)

90 1st problem:
1. ... Bf4+
2. PxB PxP#

Problem 2:
1. QxN RxR+
2. RxR As a
3. Rd8 Qe8
4. RxQ#

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 10, 2018 05:25 PM (VlV8D)

91 1st problem: overturn board, punch opponent in the face
2nd problem: see 1st problem

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:26 PM (NWiLs)

92 >>Nuland was Talbott's COS at Brookings and she is now the CEO of Center for New American Security.

She was on the tube recently, I can't remember which show, admitting that they were getting information from "a source" and they turned it over to the FBI.

Sounds like the mysterious 2nd dossier.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

93 OM. Talbott's work included pushing a one world government. The would be no Nation/States just on big unelected Central government. and one ring to rule them all.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:27 PM (20LNi)

94 OK. Just did a QC check on the Cuban cigars I ordered and pronounce them entirely satisfactory for use at Weasel Acres.

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 05:27 PM (Sfs6o)

95 What really pisses me off is that all R congress critters and senators knew about all of this and still voted to renew FISA.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:28 PM (gC2IV)

96 >>Brandon L Van Grack

>>Evidently, this US Attorney is up to his eyeballs in this FBI/Justice op.

He's on Mueller's team and was the lawyer who signed the complaint again Flynn.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 05:29 PM (/tuJf)

97 95 What really pisses me off is that all R congress critters and senators knew about all of this and still voted to renew FISA.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:28 PM (gC2IV)

Why do you want the terrorists to win? Why do you hate America?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:29 PM (NWiLs)

98 My anger, bitterness and resentment levels are too high.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:25 PM (NWiLs)

Perhaps you should fly down to Manila and join NorthernLurker at the mission. He is a swell guy. Now he isn't seeking a replacement for his beloved Faye, but you might find a woman there who would be true to you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:30 PM (Dbv1R)

99 OK. Just did a QC check on the Cuban cigars I ordered and pronounce them entirely satisfactory for use at Weasel Acres.
Posted by: Weasel

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Only you can prevent forest fires.

Posted by: Smokey the Bear at February 10, 2018 05:30 PM (c/EDo)

100 93 OM. Talbott's work included pushing a one world government. The would be no Nation/States just on big unelected Central government. and one ring to rule them all.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:27 PM (20LNi)


Yes, and the USSR was just a loveable old teddy bear who just wants peace and hugs and why are we treating him so mean? Faugh! I'm dredging up some very bad memories...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:30 PM (prh9V)

101 If we had known there was such a booming market for this shit we would have given the FBI a Trump dossier that would have knocked their socks off.

Posted by: Penthouse Forum at February 10, 2018 05:30 PM (9SkN+)

102 Weasel, I saw the picture of WeaselAcres. Damn, that's a lot of trees.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:31 PM (20LNi)

103 Ok, prednisone is fully kicking in and I MUST EAT ALL OF THE THINGS!!! Now, where did I put that box of Oreos?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:32 PM (gC2IV)

104 5 Mark Andrew Edwards

Stay away from Mom!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2018 05:32 PM (hyuyC)

105 Perhaps you should fly down to Manila and join NorthernLurker at the mission. He is a swell guy. Now he isn't seeking a replacement for his beloved Faye, but you might find a woman there who would be true to you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:30 PM (Dbv1R)

Travel anywhere isn't happening any time soon. Child support continues to bleed me dry and leave me in poverty.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:33 PM (NWiLs)

106 102 Weasel, I saw the picture of WeaselAcres. Damn, that's a lot of trees.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:31 PM (20LNi)

It's very artistic.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:34 PM (NWiLs)

107 Weasel, I saw the picture of WeaselAcres. Damn, that's a lot of trees.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:31 PM (20LNi)

Do the trees at Weasel Acres constitute merchantable timber? If so, there may be good money in logging off the the areas you wish to clear. If the trees are not suitable for lumber purposes, they could still be cut, split, and stacked as firewood. For which there is a good market.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:34 PM (Dbv1R)

108 You know, a site showing exhaustive Olympic world records for men, women, and high school boys in every shared sport would probably get a lot of traffic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - My Car Uses No Gas But Have to Fill It Up Every Night at February 10, 2018 05:34 PM (ks6bw)

109 Not Olympic records for the boys, of course. National high school records or what not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - My Car Uses No Gas But Have to Fill It Up Every Night at February 10, 2018 05:34 PM (ks6bw)

110 103 Ok, prednisone is fully kicking in and I MUST EAT ALL OF THE THINGS!!! Now, where did I put that box of Oreos?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:32 PM (gC2IV)

I love prednisone, despite the side effects. For a few days I feel like I can conquer the world.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:35 PM (NWiLs)

111 >>OM. Talbott's work included pushing a one world government. The would be no Nation/States just on big unelected Central government. and one ring to rule them all.

Time for me to again roll out my crack pot theory that at the center of all of this is organizations like the Council on Foreign Relations. That organization and similar ones overseas have been pushing this one world crap forever and every single person at the heart of this scam is tied to them in one way or another.

Hillary even gave a speech at the CFR during the election where she said something like it was good to be back at the CFR where we all get our foreign policy ideas.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 05:36 PM (/tuJf)

112 Travel anywhere isn't happening any time soon. Child support continues to bleed me dry and leave me in poverty.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:33 PM (NWiLs)

My condolences, I know that can be a real bitch, what with judges that vastly over-estimate your income.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:36 PM (Dbv1R)

113 Insomniac, perfectly normal feelings. Marketers make big buck off this "spend dough to impress the gf or appease the wife" holiday, and secondary market of everything from E-Harmony and farmers-only (you can find your valentine) to buy a car, boat, bottle of tequila to reclaim those days to folks our age range. I minimize my store exposure until its safely on to the Saint Patricks day focus.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at February 10, 2018 05:36 PM (84F5k)

114 108 You know, a site showing exhaustive Olympic world records for men, women, and high school boys in every shared sport would probably get a lot of traffic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - My Car Uses No Gas But Have to Fill It Up
Every Night at February 10, 2018 05:34 PM (ks6bw)


Not to mention a crapload of DDOS attacks by SJW hacktivists who can't stand the truth.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:36 PM (prh9V)

115 Insom, I know it's of small comfort now, but one day your children will be grown adults and your ex will have to explain what she did and why. Long time coming, but payback is a bitch.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:37 PM (gC2IV)

116 Chess thread Yea!

The first pic......dress on the left. Oh yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2018 05:37 PM (EoRCO)

117 AOP, those trees don't even need to be timber. There is a fortune in pines shavings for horse bedding.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:37 PM (20LNi)

118 Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:10 PM (NWiLs)

You've had a very difficult couple of days-as you noted- and you're angry and fed up and lonely and frustrated. Maybe try to think of some people you do love who love you back.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 05:38 PM (8+Ozj)

119
I was just looking over Jenna Jameson's twitter feed (and for political content....like wow), and she posted a picture of Justin Trudeau and Gavin Newsom together. Newsom was quoted as saying Justin had "great hair".

Jenna thus dubbed them the "Scissor Sisters".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 05:38 PM (8O3HH)

120 115 Insom, I know it's of small comfort now, but one day your children will be grown adults and your ex will have to explain what she did and why. Long time coming, but payback is a bitch.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:37 PM (gC2IV)

She won't have to explain anything, and I guarantee she's already fully rationalized every last bit of it.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:39 PM (NWiLs)

121 Well time for me to hit the shower. Was crawling around in the attic, adding doublers to the existing rafters. Dusty, dirty, and itchy up there. And cramped, can't forget that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:40 PM (Dbv1R)

122 121 Well time for me to hit the shower. Was crawling around in the attic, adding doublers to the existing rafters. Dusty, dirty, and itchy up there. And cramped, can't forget that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:40 PM (Dbv1R)

You're a real party animal.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:41 PM (NWiLs)

123 Really. I did not know that.

I taught myself chess in the 1970s with Descriptive Notation. When algebraic came along, I hated it and avoided it wherever possible. But I finally gave up in the 1990s and concentrated on using AN. Now I am used to it and I "think" in AN, whereas before I thought in DN. I have found AN to be an all-around better system now that I know it through and through. In fact, DN sometimes throws me for a loop as I forget that Black has to count from his side of the board, so N-B3 is ambiguous, and depends if you're White or Black. It used to not bother me and I automatically made the adjustment, but now, I forget and make mistakes.
Posted by: OregonMuse


In the o-o-o-o-riginal chess books, back in the 1400s, written by Arab and Italian early masters, they hadn't even invented any kind of notation yet, so the moves were written thusly:

"Pick up the knight from its position on the third rank above the queen's starting square, and move unto the square at the fifth rank above the starting point of the queen's bishop."

Eventually, in the 18th century I believe, they figurted out a shorthand way to render that as

"N from Q3 to QB5."

And then they realized that they didn't even need to "from" and "to," and shortened in the 19th century to

"NQ3-QB5."

But THEN they realize that in most cases, you didn't even need to specify the starting square, so that 95% of the time you could simply write

"N-QB5."

Only a coule times per game that both knights or both rooks could move to the same square, in which instance you shouldl then write it to old way of "N(Q3)-NB5," if it was true that your other knight could also move to Q5.

THen in the 20th century with the rise of organized international tournaments, they had to find a way to regularize scorekeeping, because each country had its own eccentric notation style (and even its own alphabet). So, starting in the 1930s ( I think) and especially after WWII, they really encouraged top-level players in international tournaments to write in a standardized notation (now known as "algebraic"), so the tournament directors and game publishers could all understand what was written, and now have to learn Bulgarian notation, or whatever.

However, in local tournaments, players in each country still used their own native notation style, which is when the kind used here and in the UK became known as "English descriptive." This was still commonplace up through the 1970s, not just in the US, but in all countries.

However, I think starting in the 1980s, FIDE (the international chess org) passed a new rule that all game scores MUST be in standardized notation; it was no longer "encouraged," but became mandatory. And then also around the same time almost all chess books graduated to ONLY using algebraic (so they could sell copies internationally), and little by little the next generation of chessplayers grew up with algebraic and used it naturally. I think in the 1990s the USCF conformed to the FIDE rule and made algebraic mandatory.

What really made algebraic notation universal was the "Informant" chess series: a semi-annual book published in Yugoslavia every six months throughout the '60s and '70s that presented (in the pre-computer era) ALL the top grandmaster games around the world, with detailed analysis of each game by the players themselves. Because it was intended for an international audiece, they used algebraic notation for the square names and piece-symbols (instead of letters) for the pieces, in a special "chess font" they invented. Anyone and everyone who wanted to be cool and get better at chess in those days bought the Informants, and everyone therefore got used to the style they used. Fast forward to today, and the Informant style is now universal in international tournaments and books.

When Fischer (now insane) had his over-hyped rematch against Spassky in the 1990s, he wrote all his game scores in old-fashioned Descriptive Notation, to everyone's amusement and consternation. No one has the nerve to confront him and tell him is was now "forbidden." He would have bitten their heads off.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:41 PM (42M22)

124 How he can afford that kind of representation is an interesting question.

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The same way that a piddling little IT guy nobody can.

I'm surprised being immediately represented by a Clinton attorney isn't somehow admissible in court.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 10, 2018 05:42 PM (ks6bw)

125 Yes, and the USSR was just a loveable old teddy bear who just wants peace and hugs and why are we treating him so mean? Faugh! I'm dredging up some very bad memories...
Posted by: OregonMuse
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Churchill's WWII memoirs include a number of written communications with Stalin. Not to put too fine a (vulgar) point on it, but Stalin was a souless miserable prick of a murderous communist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 05:42 PM (Zdm89)

126 AOP, those trees don't even need to be timber. There is a fortune in pines shavings for horse bedding.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:37 PM (20LNi)

Pine? I'd have thought a woodlot in West Virginia would be mostly hardwood trees, but I guess pine is possible.
Does the pine have to be debarked for it be horse bedding?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:42 PM (Dbv1R)

127 now have to learn = not have to learn

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2018 05:42 PM (42M22)

128 I think I saw Jenna and maybe Felicia in Scissor Sisters, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 10, 2018 05:43 PM (ks6bw)

129 Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at February 10, 2018 05:36 PM (84F5k)

I have no desire to buy any standard mid-life crisis merch, as I can afford it anyway, and realize it's futile. Getting a flash car doesn't change the fact you're closer to death than to birth and your life hasn't amounted to much anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:43 PM (NWiLs)

130 I'm surprised being immediately represented by a Clinton attorney isn't somehow admissible in court.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I regard it as probable cause.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 05:43 PM (Zdm89)

131 I like that chess set

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 05:44 PM (aC6Sd)

132 120 115 Insom, I know it's of small comfort now, but one day your children will be grown adults and your ex will have to explain what she did and why. Long time coming, but payback is a bitch.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:37 PM (gC2IV)

She won't have to explain anything, and I guarantee she's already fully rationalized every last bit of it.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:39 PM (NWiLs)

No she won't. And Insom will have the opportunity to tell them the whole story but he won't do it either because he's already the villain and that "truth" can't be changed.

He'll accept whatever relationship he has with the kids when they are grown. He'll always love them and hope they do well in life but he will always be separate from them.

Don't ask me how I know.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 05:44 PM (DKwRk)

133 128 I think I saw Jenna and maybe Felicia in Scissor Sisters, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 10, 2018 05:43 PM (ks6bw)

Hmm...BRB

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:44 PM (NWiLs)

134 Insomniac, a $1000 pop up camper and a beater truck to pull it with might be something to consider.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 10, 2018 05:44 PM (ks6bw)

135 Not to put too fine a (vulgar) point on it, but Stalin was a souless miserable prick of a murderous communist.

Well ... at least I'm not a Murderous Communist.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 10, 2018 05:45 PM (fiGNd)

136 Insomniac, almost sounds like PTSD.

You have to want to let go of the hurt and the rage.

Love is a battlefield. You lost. Time to forget.

Wounds won't heal if the scab keeps getting picked at.

(hugs & prayers)

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2018 05:45 PM (hMwEB)

137 Do the trees at Weasel Acres constitute merchantable timber? If so, there may be good money in logging off the the areas you wish to clear. If the trees are not suitable for lumber purposes, they could still be cut, split, and stacked as firewood. For which there is a good market.


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Yeah. And then you can put up a parking lot.

Posted by: Joni Mitchell at February 10, 2018 05:45 PM (9SkN+)

138 Can I join the Scissor Sisters?

Posted by: John "Breck Girl" Edwards at February 10, 2018 05:46 PM (EzdLW)

139 I'm the anomaly but commercials with the DH buying overpriced jewelry for the wife always had me thinking "If I had a husband and he wasted a bunch of money on some stupid googaw like that it would not be a happy holiday for him." The way to a horse gal's heart would be more like "honey I bought new tires and mounted them on your trailer or p/u"

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at February 10, 2018 05:46 PM (84F5k)

140 AOP, the pine bark goes to mulch. the pine shavings go for $5.50 to 6 for 2.5 cubic feet.

It takes 6 of those bags to bed a 12x12 stall and continually adding 2 or more bags every couple of days.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:46 PM (20LNi)

141 Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 05:44 PM (DKwRk)

I am lucky in that I do see my kids regularly. I know of many men who don't and it's devastating. But still she will never have to explain anything, and I know she feels not only fully justified, but righteous. There will be no reckoning, no justice, no satisfaction.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:47 PM (NWiLs)

142 You can eat pine shavings, you know.

Posted by: Zombie Euell Gibbons at February 10, 2018 05:48 PM (Tyii7)

143 134 Insomniac, a $1000 pop up camper and a beater truck to pull it with might be something to consider.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 10, 2018 05:44 PM (ks6bw)

Can't drive that to Manila, silly.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:48 PM (NWiLs)

144 Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:47 PM (NWiLs)

I wasn't kept from mine either but what she "knows" to be the real story, isn't.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 05:49 PM (DKwRk)

145
The Scissor Sisters were talking about cool things like climate change, universal health care, and immigration. While the admired each other's hair.

Breck girl would love it. Jeff Flake would love to be servicing them as they talked about their hair, I'm sure.

And remember Kimberly Guilfoyle was married to that poof.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 05:49 PM (8O3HH)

146 My husband doesn't have to appease me for anything. If he got me a card that would be fine. If he doesn't. that's o.k. too. He's never gotten me anything big for Valentine's Day and I don't care. He got about 20 lbs of chocolate from kids on the schoolhouse for Christmas. I told him if he brought home any chocolate I would probably strangle him. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 05:49 PM (8+Ozj)

147 I wasn't kept from mine either but what she "knows" to be the real story, isn't.
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 05:49 PM (DKwRk)

I know exactly what you mean. It's really quite disturbing.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:50 PM (NWiLs)

148 It takes 6 of those bags to bed a 12x12 stall and continually adding 2 or more bags every couple of days.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:46 PM (20LNi)

Didn't they used to use straw for that?
Does the bedding wear out? Or could it simply be washed and sanitized, and re-used?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:50 PM (Dbv1R)

149 Well ... at least I'm not a Murderous Communist.
Posted by: ScoggDog
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Heh. Reminds me of an old joke. A man and his wife are exiting church, where the minister has just delivered a sermon on The Ten Commandments. The man appears very downcast and ashamed as they exit the church, then abruptly looks up brightly, and says, "I've never committed adultery!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 05:50 PM (9tO1t)

150 I have to take off for awhile, so I put the solutions up a bit early.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 10, 2018 05:50 PM (prh9V)

151 Weasel! What cigars did you get? My last Cuban was a Cohiba. It was fine but my tastes and minimal cash flow keep me from driving to Canuckistan to find any. Also, I'd probably have to go to Vancouver and I hate that place as much as I hate any of the dumps along the I-5 corridor.
Insomniac, different situation for me but I understand. It's all such a waste for me. My last, and only attempt at a date in nearly four tears presented way too much potential for brain damage. I'm done. Do what you can to ignore it and stay grumpy my friend

Posted by: Winston at February 10, 2018 05:51 PM (wgCUV)

152 146-Schoolbus, not Schoolhouse.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 05:51 PM (8+Ozj)

153
Here's the first thing you get. A $33,0000 crystal set.

http://tinyurl.com/yd9ztte7
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


You can't even pick up any radio stations with it!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 10, 2018 05:52 PM (IqV8l)

154 Insomniac, I want to say something sincerely to you.

I really like and appreciate you. You add a lot of spice to the ol' HQ. You have a way with words and a wicked sense of humor. I sincerely regard it as a gift you share with us. Thank you.

My heart aches that you have deep challenges and disappointments in life. I wish -- we all wish -- that there was a way we could encourage and cheer you.

(And I know about wicked ex-wives. My husband has an ex and she is the most perverse person I know. It's a miracle my step-daughter is reasonably functional.)

You are in my prayers.

Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2018 05:52 PM (/A+Cl)

155 You can't even pick up any radio stations with it!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 10, 2018 05:52 PM (IqV8l)

Golf clap!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 05:52 PM (Dbv1R)

156 , a $1000 pop up camper and a beater truck to pull it with might be something to consider.

I had a 1976 Coleman popup that I dragged all around the country from park to park with an old van in the 90's. I think it was the smallest one Coleman made at the time. It was so well made I could throw it up in 10 minutes and it withstood any weather I ran into. I miss that thing.

Posted by: dartist at February 10, 2018 05:53 PM (nisXv)

157 I think I saw Jenna and maybe Felicia in Scissor Sisters,

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Did they do Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 10, 2018 05:53 PM (+y/Ru)

158 I posted this in the pet thread but I will repost it here.
There was a cockroach the size of a small dog strolling across the floor a few minutes ago.
But I'm loving the Philippines.
AOP has a point. A reset might help.
I'm not looking to replace my Faye just yet but there's a lot of lovely ladies here

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 05:53 PM (5fRCd)

159 To drop description notation I would really need to study or practice games and write down the moves until I could do it without thinking

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 05:53 PM (aC6Sd)

160 Does the pine have to be debarked for it be horse bedding?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Nah, the horses dont care how much noise the bedding makes.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 05:53 PM (tr2D7)

161 I'm late to the game but ....:

Problem 1:

... Bf4+

Problem 2:

QxN

I'm sure everyone got these already.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2018 05:54 PM (8gDQu)

162
While Heller said that the ruling itself did not outlaw gun control - the applicability of 18 USC 242 does - in fact - outlaw the enforcement of any and all gun control laws, statutes, ordinances, regulations, and customs.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2018 05:20 PM (tvThN)

Care to bet on that?

Posted by: Nine Fickle Judges at February 10, 2018 05:54 PM (z79tQ)

163 >>Didn't they used to use straw for that?
Does the bedding wear out? Or could it simply be washed and sanitized, and re-used?

We used straw for the other animals but the horses got wood shavings.

And no, they aren't cleanable. They absorb a lot of pee and poo and out they go.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 05:55 PM (/tuJf)

164 152 146 FenelonSpoke

My Universals FenelonSpoke translator worked fine. No need for corrections.

Hope your son is looking forward to track season. And that you and FenelonSpouse thrive.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2018 05:55 PM (hyuyC)

165 Just found out two cops were KIA here in my area this afternoon. Don't know any details but we are a pretty small community so this will hit hard.

I humbly ask for prayers for the fallen and for their families. Ugh.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 05:55 PM (tr2D7)

166 these posts would be more enjoyable if the moves were given in English, and not some secret geek code that i have neither the time nor the interest in learning.

i think that's just one of the many reasons most people don't get chess.

YMMV.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 10, 2018 05:55 PM (zM+lT)

167 136 Insomniac, almost sounds like PTSD.

You have to want to let go of the hurt and the rage.

Love is a battlefield. You lost. Time to forget.

Wounds won't heal if the scab keeps getting picked at.

(hugs & prayers)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2018 05:45 PM (hMwEB)

I am cursed with an exceptionally detailed long-term memory that just loves to hang on to the worst moments of my life and replay them for me in HD and Dolby surround sound. As for the rest of it...I have no idea what to do about it.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:56 PM (NWiLs)

168 20 15 I'm partial to dresses that fall above the knee.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 10, 2018 04:52 PM (r9UYA)

I like those that she'll take off or ask me to take off.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at February 10, 2018 05:56 PM (QMwOT)

169 AOP, the soiled bedding is scattered in the pasture to decompose. This is why I developed the shredding machine you and Jim and I talked about awhile back. The shavings take nitrogen out of the soil and take longer to decompose. I have gone back to straw because of the faster decomposition and better for keeping down erosion.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:56 PM (20LNi)

170 Think of February 15th as 50% off chocolate day... just like Nov. 1 and Dec. 26

Posted by: Hands at February 10, 2018 05:56 PM (EzdLW)

171 That's terrible, Tonypete. Seems to be a lot of that in just the last few days.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:57 PM (gC2IV)

172 I looked at the first puzzle for awhile, then giving up looked for the answers, which were posted right below.
Duh!

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 05:58 PM (aC6Sd)

173 >>Just found out two cops were KIA here in my area this afternoon. Don't know any details but we are a pretty small community so this will hit hard.

Are you in the Westerville area? I saw the Chief give the details, he was crushed.

Two veteran cops, 17 and 20 years on the job, responded to a domestic disturbance call and were shot when they entered an apartment.

One died at the scene and the other in surgery.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 05:58 PM (/tuJf)

174 Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2018 05:52 PM (/A+Cl)

Thank you for your kind words.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:58 PM (NWiLs)

175 A friend of mine noticed that if you read it literally, #MeToo is pound me too!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 10, 2018 05:58 PM (+y/Ru)

176 165 Just found out two cops were KIA here in my area this afternoon. Don't know any details but we are a pretty small community so this will hit hard.

I humbly ask for prayers for the fallen and for their families. Ugh.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 05:55 PM (tr2D7)


We just had some officers killed in Colorado Springs. Wasn't there some other similar story recently in the news? Is something evil being coordinated?

Posted by: Emmie at February 10, 2018 05:59 PM (/A+Cl)

177 Ben Had - well it's 54 acres with about 500 trees per acre. Do the math. It is a LOT of trees.

They are loblolly pine, and yes they do have timber and/or pulp value. I'm having about two acres cleared for a rifle range and a place to park an RV. I'm actually having these trees mulched to form a stable bed and control erosion.

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 05:59 PM (Sfs6o)

178 Just found out two cops were KIA here in my area this afternoon. Don't know any details but we are a pretty small community so this will hit hard.

I humbly ask for prayers for the fallen and for their families. Ugh.
Posted by: Tonypete

I heard their names a little while ago on Fox, as the Westerville PD Chief was on, talking about it. He was in tears.
Then I was.
I know one of the cops killed today. His son and mine were in elementary school together many years ago.
What a great guy and a wonderful family.
I just feel sick.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 10, 2018 05:59 PM (S6Pax)

179
And he was wrong about pretty much everything he talked about. He had an amazing 100% failure rate. Now that, my friends, takes talent.

You said it, brother!

Posted by: Paul Krugman at February 10, 2018 06:00 PM (IqV8l)

180 Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2018 05:55 PM (hyuyC)

Thanks, I appreciate your kind thoughts

He decided that he wanted to not do Track anymore. I was sorry about that, but he said he wanted to concentrate on his studies. I don't know that he is, but that's what he said even though we tried to dissuade him from not continuing. I think it's because he's really much better at Cross Country than he is at Track and they will have that at the Community College. Thanks for your good wishes. It such a difficult time for him right now. The blessing is that he is going to see a counselor at school and seems to value that. He doesn't say much but she's given him some coping skills as in noticing how his body is feeling when he's anxious. I have feeling that she's pretty and nice (and NO, nothing questionable about it) and that helps him want to go see her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 06:00 PM (8+Ozj)

181 >>worst moments of my life and replay them for me in HD and Dolby surround sound.

That sounds like flashbacks, a symptom of PTSD, buddy. You can search around on that. Traumatic events can burned into your memory, and in an abnormal way. It's your own mind's protection system sort of running amok.

Your ex-wife sounds like a real, well, source of some of those moments.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 06:00 PM (8O3HH)

182 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 10, 2018 05:59 PM (S6Pax)

Sorry to hear that. Will keep the families in prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 06:01 PM (8+Ozj)

183 I am cursed with an exceptionally detailed long-term memory that just loves to hang on to the worst moments of my life and replay them for me in HD and Dolby surround sound. As for the rest of it...I have no idea what to do about it.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:56 PM (NWiLs)


Dude ...

... a long, detailed memory just puts in pure focus the kind of shit most people gloss over - because most people just want to be happy all the time.

And being happy means Don't Harsh My Mellow.

Slick - just BE. Happy is a High Fucking Bar. But BEING ... at a High Level ... is something you can do.

There'll be flashes of Happy in that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 10, 2018 06:01 PM (fiGNd)

184 I'll move diagonally in on the top two boards! and play Bishop Two TU with them, unravel my cassock..leftie first then check out her mate.

Posted by: saf at February 10, 2018 06:02 PM (cS/ge)

185 My theory about Rotten Tomatoes is that "racism" thing is all a smokescreen. They are embarrassed by their audience score, and this came to a head with the abysmal ratings the general audiences gave The Last Jedi. They are just using Black Panther as an excuse to manipulate the audience ratings so they are more favorable to the big studios like Disney. Rotten Tomatoes is now hopelessly compromised.

Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 06:02 PM (q177U)

186 I posted this in the pet thread but I will repost it here.
There was a cockroach the size of a small dog strolling across the floor a few minutes ago.

Posted by: Northernlurker
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I hate it when people wax exuberant about the exotic places they are visiting.

Glad you made it there safely, I expect that there were *long* plane rides involved.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:02 PM (c/EDo)

187 Rotten Tomatoes is now hopelessly compromised.

Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 06:02 PM (q177U)


I generally find it useful as a negative indicator.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2018 06:03 PM (8gDQu)

188 AOP,
the soiled bedding is scattered in the pasture to decompose. This is
why I developed the shredding machine you and Jim and I talked about
awhile back. The shavings take nitrogen out of the soil and take longer
to decompose. I have gone back to straw because of the faster
decomposition and better for keeping down erosion.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 05:56 PM (20LNi)

I get you, Ben. You know, in major horse country, it might pay to set up a combined cycle. Lease fresh wood shavings to the horse owners, then collect the dirty shavings, dry them a bit in the sun, and then use them as partial feed for a wood-waste burning power plant. The horse shit would burn, too, solving that problem, and the end product would be a nice source of potash for fertilizer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 06:03 PM (Dbv1R)

189 167 136 Insomniac, almost sounds like PTSD.

You have to want to let go of the hurt and the rage.

Love is a battlefield. You lost. Time to forget.

Wounds won't heal if the scab keeps getting picked at.

(hugs & prayers)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2018 05:45 PM (hMwEB)

I am cursed with an exceptionally detailed long-term memory that just loves to hang on to the worst moments of my life and replay them for me in HD and Dolby surround sound. As for the rest of it...I have no idea what to do about it.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:56 PM (NWiLs)

Time will get most of it, but if you're like me (and it sounds like you are), it may take another decade before the pain is as sharp.

What helps me in mental torment is to redirect my thoughts to something pleasant. Like...no laughing...my cat. Just thinking of my cat calmed me down from the revving mental engine.

The other part is just getting up and getting out there. Without intentions. Just get outside, say 'hi' to everyone you pass.

Then, eventually, force yourself to smile at girls again. Then say 'hi' after the smile.

In the mean time, there are lots of folks here who like you and value you. That's something.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 06:05 PM (xJa6I)

190 FenelonSpoke

Take it from me. At your son's age many American males have a difficult time. They survive, grow out of it, and with two good parents, continue the circle of life.

Perchance it is better to not accumulate scar tissue so young. Studies are good -- superior performance comes from sustained efforts.

As a Plan B, I have lots of outdoor work he could do out here. Gently hint that it could be worse!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2018 06:05 PM (hyuyC)

191 So in reality what Weasel needs is beavers and a pond

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:05 PM (aC6Sd)

192 I know one of the cops killed today. His son and mine were in elementary school together many years ago.
What a great guy and a wonderful family.
I just feel sick.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 10, 2018 05:59 PM (S6Pax)

Dammit man, I'm sorry.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:05 PM (NWiLs)

193 191 So in reality what Weasel needs is beavers and a pond
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:05 PM (aC6Sd)

We could all do with some beaver. I know I could.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:06 PM (NWiLs)

194 188. AOP run Bartertown!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 10, 2018 06:06 PM (fA1SL)

195 191 So in reality what Weasel needs is beavers and a pond
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:05 PM (aC6Sd)
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What Weasel needs is a break in the weather so my grading guy can start mowing down pine trees.

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 06:06 PM (Sfs6o)

196 185 My theory about Rotten Tomatoes is that "racism" thing is all a smokescreen. They are embarrassed by their audience score, and this came to a head with the abysmal ratings the general audiences gave The Last Jedi. They are just using Black Panther as an excuse to manipulate the audience ratings so they are more favorable to the big studios like Disney. Rotten Tomatoes is now hopelessly compromised.
Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 06:02 PM (q177U)

I think it's proactive racism. Someone, not necessarily involved in the production, decided they needed to 'protect' this property.

Honestly, I expect it will be good. Not perfect, but entertaining. Boseman did a fine job in Civil War and I expect he will be the same here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 06:07 PM (xJa6I)

197 I heard their names a little while ago on Fox, as the Westerville PD Chief was on, talking about it. He was in tears.

Then I was.

I know one of the cops killed today. His son and mine were in elementary school together many years ago.

What a great guy and a wonderful family.

I just feel sick.



Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 10, 2018 05:59 PM (S6Pax)

Condolences. Yes, there may be some sort of underlying coordination of all these cop killings, even if it just of the "inspirational" nature, and not a conspiracy as such.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 06:07 PM (Dbv1R)

198 AOP, the pine bark goes to mulch. the pine shavings go for $5.50 to 6 for 2.5 cubic feet.

It takes 6 of those bags to bed a 12x12 stall and continually adding 2 or more bags every couple of days.

Then.......go back every nite and slip the horses some ex lax.

In no time...... you'll be RICH !

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:08 PM (6Ylg4)

199 There'll be flashes of Happy in that.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 10, 2018 06:01 PM (fiGNd)

I'll be waiting for them

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:09 PM (NWiLs)

200 Tony Pete, prayers for your fallen peace officers. Way too much of that happening around the country lately. My state has had a rash of 3 events within 6 weeks or something.

and our local FNM are oh so pious reporting on these tragedies. I guess this is better than the way they talked under the JEF and would talk if Hildabeast had won but I have yet to hear any mea culpa, oops we really should have covered the story when the facts in MO proved that Brown's crime partner was lying his ass off about hands up etc.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at February 10, 2018 06:10 PM (84F5k)

201 This is the first time I have heard about your difficulties in more detail, Insomniac. Now I feel like a jerk for rolling my eyes at some of your posts. You have my deepest sympathies.

Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 06:10 PM (q177U)

202 My favorite take on Black Panther is from NBC BLK:

http://bit.ly/2BmVkyz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 10, 2018 06:10 PM (+y/Ru)

203 Hey Bozo, JakeStraw - God this is just awful.

Just watched Chief Ms, presser. Heartbreaking.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 06:10 PM (tr2D7)

204 What Weasel needs is a break in the weather so my grading guy can start mowing down pine trees.
Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 06:06 PM (Sfs6o)

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Well, don't just kill them. I understand tree museums can be very lucrative.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:11 PM (9SkN+)

205 There was a cockroach the size of a small dog strolling across the floor a few minutes ago.

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those suckers can fly too

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2018 06:11 PM (hMwEB)

206 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 10, 2018 06:11 PM (KCxzN)

207 178 Just found out two cops were KIA here in my area this afternoon. Don't know any details but we are a pretty small community so this will hit hard.

I humbly ask for prayers for the fallen and for their families. Ugh.
Posted by: Tonypete

I heard their names a little while ago on Fox, as the Westerville PD Chief was on, talking about it. He was in tears.
Then I was.
I know one of the cops killed today. His son and mine were in elementary school together many years ago.
What a great guy and a wonderful family.
I just feel sick.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 10, 2018 05:59 PM (S6Pax)

That press conference was heartbreaking.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 10, 2018 06:11 PM (dKiJG)

208 Leftists push racism and white privilege as a means to gain control over minorities as their protectors. It also works in Leftist dogmas of race, class and gender warfare.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:11 PM (aC6Sd)

209 Hey Insomniac, you've got a family here that likes you and cares about you, if you can stand our vulgarity and shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:12 PM (9SkN+)

210 Insomniac, maybe you should see a therapist. Yes, yes, I know, I hated the idea too. But when I was having panic attacks I was stuck in a sort of repeating loop of scary/depressing thoughts and it got to be a groove worn by constant visitation. I waited a couple years, calm and collected on the outside but inside I was constantly wary of the next big attack.

It really helped to talk to someone "outside of my head" and relearn how to take control of the narrative. Self-talk is a big part of how we see the world.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2018 06:13 PM (qJtVm)

211 What Weasel needs is a break in the weather so my grading guy can start mowing down pine trees.
Posted by: Weasel
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Where, exactly, are these trees? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Southern Pine Beetle at February 10, 2018 06:13 PM (w1zJX)

212 >>>Honestly, I expect it will be good. Not perfect, but entertaining. Boseman did a fine job in Civil War and I expect he will be the same here.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 06:07 PM (xJa6I)

I'll be there opening weekend! Still sad that Rotten Tomatoes, which I used to love checking out has become a victim of it's own success. First it was the critics score and now it is the audience scores that are being manipulated and/or bowing to intense studio pressure.

Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 06:13 PM (q177U)

213 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 10, 2018 06:05 PM (xJa6I)

I know. It is, and it helps get me through.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:14 PM (NWiLs)

214 An Observation, don't follow your reasoning on Heller and 18USC 242. Agree Heller is/should be/could be profound - but at the moment there's the weeeee leeeetle problem of inferior courts "over-ruling" Heller (check out the 4th's trash talk in their ruling on the MD law).


I recall when Heller was issued, many counseling patience - the decision would work its way downward and would eventually affect real life for everyone. I understand that - based on *previous* history.


At the moment it's gone the other way, the worst states spiking the ball and laughing at the concept underlying Heller. Imagine some imaginary right, or something cultural that's been absurdly constitutionalized like marriage definition - as opposed to a central right that was key to the whole system even being established - taking years and years and years to be recognized/enforced down the line. Yes, it is unimaginable.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 10, 2018 06:14 PM (vP09u)

215 It's pretty amazing how much it helps to say stuff out loud to someone who doesn't know you or really care.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 10, 2018 06:14 PM (ks6bw)

216
Well, don't just kill them. I understand tree museums can be very lucrative.
Posted by: Cicero
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Not so much as you might believe.

Posted by: Joyce Kilmer at February 10, 2018 06:14 PM (w1zJX)

217
Insomniac, ol' buddy, listen to everybody above. Look up PTSD and flashbacks and see it that strikes a chord. That's exactly what this sounds like.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 06:15 PM (8O3HH)

218 205 There was a cockroach the size of a small dog strolling across the floor a few minutes ago.

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those suckers can fly too
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2018 06:11 PM (hMwEB)

#7 steel shot. Lead won't penetrate the exoskeleton.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:15 PM (NWiLs)

219 First girl looks like she took the picnic blanket and wrapped it around her

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2018 06:15 PM (39g3+)

220 >>It's pretty amazing how much it helps to say stuff out loud to someone who doesn't know you or really care.

I like big butts and I cannot lie!

There. Been holding that in too long.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 06:16 PM (/tuJf)

221 185 My theory about Rotten Tomatoes is that "racism" thing is all a smokescreen. They are embarrassed by their audience score, and this came to a head with the abysmal ratings the general audiences gave The Last Jedi. They are just using Black Panther as an excuse to manipulate the audience ratings so they are more favorable to the big studios like Disney. Rotten Tomatoes is now hopelessly compromised.
Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 06:02 PM (q177U)

I knew Last Jedi was bad when in Asia it couldn't win the box office on an opening weekend.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 10, 2018 06:16 PM (dKiJG)

222 Well, don't just kill them. I understand tree museums can be very lucrative.
Posted by: Cicero
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I did visit a Granite Museum once. It wasn't as exciting as one might wish it to be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:16 PM (w1zJX)

223 prayers for the families of the murdered cops

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2018 06:16 PM (hMwEB)

224 Ha. I just saw a black panther Lexus commercial. They don't even care to hide it anymore. These are just big multimillion dollar commercials with (sometimes) better than average writers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 10, 2018 06:17 PM (ks6bw)

225 209. 'Like' is a very strong word......

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 10, 2018 06:17 PM (fA1SL)

226
205 There was a cockroach the size of a small dog strolling across the floor a few minutes ago.



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those suckers can fly too

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2018 06:11 PM (hMwEB)



#7 steel shot. Lead won't penetrate the exoskeleton.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:15 PM (NWiLs)

======================
Scan it with a frequency monitor first.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 06:17 PM (Pqytn)

227 Glad you made it there safely, I expect that there were *long* plane rides involved.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:02 PM (c/EDo)

Three different planes. One was 12 hours made more bearable by the crew of very cute and gracious Chinese stewardesses.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:18 PM (5fRCd)

228 It's pretty amazing how much it helps to say stuff out loud to someone who doesn't know you or really care.

I read somewhere that if you put your ear to someone's thigh, you can hear them say

"WTF do you think YOU'RE doing ?"

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:18 PM (6Ylg4)

229 Cockroach vs octopus

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 10, 2018 06:18 PM (ks6bw)

230 I did visit a Granite Museum once. It wasn't as exciting as one might wish it to be.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:16 PM (w1zJX)

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Well, igneous, sure. Nobody ever waited up late to see igneous.

Try a museum that sedimentary rocks. That's where you'll find the excitement.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:18 PM (9SkN+)

231 Isn't placing women upon pedestals in dresses misogynistic? Shouldn't all of these women be chopping wood in lumberjack outfits while chewing tobacco and farting from hipster green beer?

Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2018 06:18 PM (bJ0w+)

232 As for the fine-looking duo in the photo: Date the left and marry the right.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 06:19 PM (Pqytn)

233 Three different planes. One was 12 hours made more bearable by the crew of very cute and gracious Chinese stewardesses.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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Heh. The Yellow Peril, transmuted to Yellow Pearl

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:20 PM (c/EDo)

234 231 Isn't placing women upon pedestals in dresses misogynistic?

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Camera, or no camera?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:20 PM (9SkN+)

235 I did visit a Granite Museum once. It wasn't as exciting as one might wish it to be.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:16 PM (w1zJX)
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There was a rock museum on Sentosa Island in Singapore. When certain rocks are cleaved (or is it "cloven in twain"?) they have pretty scenes or portraits or animals or whatnot in the pattern. Winston Churchill, say.

There was a side room that had naughty rocks. My friend and I saw an elderly couple dash out of the little room giggling like teenagers, so of course we rushed in to see. Rock weenies! Geode hot pockets!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2018 06:20 PM (qJtVm)

236 224 Everything is tied in to the marketing plan.Was pretty funny how fast all the lady Ghostbusters tie in ads went away...

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 06:20 PM (LiyEm)

237 Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2018 06:10 PM (q177U)

Thanks, and don't sweat it. Takes integrity to say what you just said.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:20 PM (NWiLs)

238 Cockroach vs octopus

Not the best Scyfy movie ever

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 10, 2018 06:21 PM (39g3+)

239 235. Going to a geological museum to get their rocks off. Sad.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 10, 2018 06:21 PM (fA1SL)

240 Council on Foreign Relations is primarily a networking and welfare/rest stop/perch operation for the foreign policy establishment - not a body with any clout in its own right. Young foreign policy types angle and scheme and beg to be made assoc. members (at least that's the way it was years ago) to put on the resume, and network.


The big names are always CFR members (no matter how ridiculous it is that they're big names).


As with many things, it didn't used to be mostly stupid, but that trend I'm sure has taken over. Back in the day there were plenty of realists and non-academics. Have not bothered to check for a while. But the CFR label means little in itself.





Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 10, 2018 06:21 PM (vP09u)

241 I humbly ask for prayers for the fallen and for their families. Ugh.
Posted by: Tonypete


May their families find strength and be comforted. May you all pull together for that which is good in this world. Amen

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at February 10, 2018 06:21 PM (AoK0a)

242
I remember Tucker asking that shrieking harpy, Cathy Areu (sp?), who was raging about how men force womyn to be dainty and all ladylike, did she just act like a pig when she ate as a powerful show for feminism.

Just grab that bowl of soup with your hands and slurp it. Reach in with your hands and grab (whatever) and shove it in your mouth. For the sisterhood!

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 06:21 PM (8O3HH)

243 Where, exactly, are these trees? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Southern Pine Beetle at February 10, 2018 06:13 PM (w1zJX)
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Heh. One of the things on my to-do list is have the county extension agent come out and look around and recommend a timber management guy. I know the previous owner had the trees sprayed a couple of years ago. Taking care of them now will greatly increase the price I will realize when it's time to auction them off.

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 06:22 PM (Sfs6o)

244 Try a museum that sedimentary rocks. That's where you'll find the excitement.
Posted by: Cicero
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I always find out about these thing after the fact.

Probably should have checked with AOP first.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:22 PM (c/EDo)

245 . Going to a geological museum to get their rocks off. Sad.

No different than going to a ficus farm.

That's what I heard.

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:22 PM (6Ylg4)

246 >> Date the left and marry the right.

At the same time, together.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (8O3HH)

247 NortherLurker - Any other destinations on your travelogue?

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (aC6Sd)

248 170 Think of February 15th as 50% off chocolate day... just like Nov. 1 and Dec. 26
Posted by: Hands at February 10, 2018 05:56 PM (EzdLW)

That's my husband's viewpoint.

Posted by: Ann at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (jtHQy)

249 It really helped to talk to someone "outside of my head" and relearn how to take control of the narrative. Self-talk is a big part of how we see the world.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2018 06:13 PM (qJtVm)

This is true, but I can't afford a therapist. I appreciate that you guys let me talk this stuff out. I believe you're right about "narrative." My inner narrative is...well, it's horrifying.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (NWiLs)

250 132 120 115 Insom, I know it's of small comfort now, but one day your children will be grown adults and your ex will have to explain what she did and why. Long time coming, but payback is a bitch.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 10, 2018 05:37 PM (gC2IV)

She won't have to explain anything, and I guarantee she's already fully rationalized every last bit of it.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 05:39 PM (NWiLs)

No she won't. And Insom will have the opportunity to tell them the whole story but he won't do it either because he's already the villain and that "truth" can't be changed.

He'll accept whatever relationship he has with the kids when they are grown. He'll always love them and hope they do well in life but he will always be separate from them.

Don't ask me how I know.
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 05:44 PM (DKwRk)

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My ex and I have been divorced almost 30 years. And, from what I gather, the ex still talks crap about me to the kids.

30 years later the lying cheater still keeps talking.

Whereas, I don't say a thing to the kids about their mother. However, when asked a direct question, I always answered honestly. I do not go out of my way to volunteer information, though.

Let's just say the ex hasn't done anything to improve her relationship with our children.

Also, I will not allow the kids to say anything against their mother, much as I'd like to feed my ego. I never go beyond asking how their mother is and leave it at that.

Anyway, inwardly, I laugh, because the woman has been remarried for 20+ years yet, still thinks I'm a subject worthy of her attention.

Rent free for more than 20 years.

In many ways, this is the story of President Trump.

Anyway, kids will eventually figure out what mom did.

What they chose to do with the knowledge is up to them.

Posted by: Blake at February 10, 2018 06:24 PM (WEBkv)

251 >> Date the left and marry the right.



At the same time, together.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (8O3HH)

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Livin' large, livin' the dream.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 06:24 PM (Pqytn)

252 >> going to a ficus farm.

What have you heard? Who told you about that? He's a liar! :looks around:

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 06:24 PM (8O3HH)

253 Just grab that bowl of soup with your hands and slurp it. Reach in with your hands and grab (whatever) and shove it in your mouth. For the sisterhood!
Posted by: publius
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I'm going to have to think about this...

*recalls dinner scene in Tom Jones*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:24 PM (c/EDo)

254 Date the left and marry the right.

Then swing 'em around and do si do
drop your pants and yell Hi Ho !

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:25 PM (6Ylg4)

255 Japanese model at the end, FTW. Easy.


But in the white girl category, nobody yet has matched brunette-on-the-boat-dock from one of the first dress pron threads. THAT's how good she was.



Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 10, 2018 06:25 PM (vP09u)

256 Insomniac I have found out I'm not alone. There a lot of great people here and we care-no cliche.
You talk about a detailed memory. My situation is obviously different than yours but every second of the time I found my Faye is fixed in my mind but the associated emotion has changed from deep grief to something I'll sweet sadness and affection. I could go into to detail but won't.
Might not be relevant to you but a healing shift is coming for me.
Let the Horde help.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:26 PM (5fRCd)

257 Silly me, this was the perfect set up for my crazy theory women are different or changed just in last 60 years. Look at pictures from 1st half of twentieth century and try to place them today.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:26 PM (aC6Sd)

258 NortherLurker - Any other destinations on your travelogue?
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (aC6Sd)

Not on this trip. But I'm sure I'll be traveling a lot.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:28 PM (5fRCd)

259 Weasel, That pine mulch is not effective for erosion control.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 06:28 PM (/pp9Y)

260 Probably should have checked with AOP first.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:22 PM (c/EDo)

You got yer three types of rocks: ignominious, sedentary, and metaphoric. Of the first, the less said about them, the better. Sedentary rocks just lie there. And metaphoric are pretending to be something they ain't.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 06:28 PM (Dbv1R)

261 Why is the ad feed showing me tractors?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:29 PM (9SkN+)

262 Silly
me, this was the perfect set up for my crazy theory women are different
or changed just in last 60 years. Look at pictures from 1st half of
twentieth century and try to place them today.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:26 PM (aC6Sd)

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Count your blessings. 300 years ago, men wore knee-breeches and silk hose.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 06:29 PM (Pqytn)

263 Wish I got around more when I was overseas, glad I saw what I did but missed so much more.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:29 PM (aC6Sd)

264 Gaming thread!

The big news last week was that Assassin's Creed Origins' DRM got haxz0rd and, also, pwned. Not that I gave nor give much of a sh!t about that game, because I didn't buy it. Partly on account that DRM sucks, and punishes the legal purchasers of the game.

But on that topic Jim Sterling (thank G-d for him) is here -
youtube.com/watch?v=A3O30Lkh2-k

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2018 06:30 PM (6FqZa)

265 Count your blessings. 300 years ago, men wore knee-breeches and silk hose

On purpose.

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:30 PM (6Ylg4)

266 259 Weasel, That pine mulch is not effective for erosion control.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 06:28 PM (/pp9Y)
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But it is better than having someone with a bulldozer tear up the ground and leave them in an enormous unsightly pile.

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 06:31 PM (Sfs6o)

267 This is true, but I can't afford a therapist. I appreciate that you guys let me talk this stuff out. I believe you're right about "narrative." My inner narrative is...well, it's horrifying.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (NWiLs)

Check out places like Catholic Charities, or other church-related organizations, or your local crisis services center, if your insurance does not cover therapy.

Getting divorced sucks. Even when it is a "friendly" divorce it is horrible. A divorce that is more acrimonious can be devastating and have longterm mental repercussions. Good luck to you, and do seek help.

Posted by: Ann at February 10, 2018 06:31 PM (jtHQy)

268
My ad feed is filled with ficuses for some damn reason.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 10, 2018 06:31 PM (8O3HH)

269 Finishing a Patrick O'Brien book, Capt Jack Aubrey is wearing silk stockings and knee britches

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:31 PM (aC6Sd)

270 Not that it's news (heh) to most here, but CNN/the press's self-degradation - this time, their seeming affection for one of the most vile criminal regimes in history - is getting lots of abuse on the twatters from non-insane journalists. The Korea stuff.


Sure it's jaw-dropping, but to me it's pretty discouraging. The historical and moral illiteracy of sooo many Americans has reached the point where this is possible - a major network playing nice with one the most infamously repugnant and hated regimes on earth.


I remain guardedly pessimistic.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 10, 2018 06:31 PM (vP09u)

271 From The Know -

Lootboxes (glorified gambling in games) is more profitable than the games themselves:
youtube.com/watch?v=F_IaARwCdkY

Germany is investigating lootboxes:
youtube.com/watch?v=au_ZCRL6Lh4

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2018 06:32 PM (6FqZa)

272 AOP. There is actually a heating device made for burning straw bedded stalls A house built over a 4 stall barn and the refuse will supply all the heating requirements for the house. No leeching period necessary. Clean it today burn it today.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 06:32 PM (/pp9Y)

273 Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (NWiLs)

Lucinda Bassett has a great audio course that you might be able to get from your library. It actually helped more than the therapist.

I know there are different issues here but it was a great comfort to know that the constant storm of thoughts was not "me", and that my core being was fine; I just needed a push to get out of the rut of obsessive thinking.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2018 06:33 PM (qJtVm)

274 Wish I got around more when I was overseas, glad I saw what I did but missed so much more.
Posted by: Skip
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I constantly rue the fact that I was more drawn to taverns, biergartens, etc. than I was to historically important sites. I missed all sorts of significant places there very close to where I traveled.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:33 PM (QxXRY)

275 AOP - nice!


A geology joke. May get to use that one some day.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 10, 2018 06:33 PM (vP09u)

276 Don't know what state your in by my county has some personal services and something like that might be able to help find a group therapy

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:33 PM (aC6Sd)

277 263
Wish I got around more when I was overseas, glad I saw what I did but missed so much more.

Me too. I chalked it up to being 19 and wanting to get home. Realized much later, what I'd missed. That probably wouldn't be the only thing I'd take a do-over on.

Posted by: dartist at February 10, 2018 06:34 PM (nisXv)

278 Probably should have checked with AOP first. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:22 PM (c/EDo)

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either that or the moose out front.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 10, 2018 06:34 PM (zM+lT)

279 Add me to those offering sympathies for friends and family members of the slain police officers.

I don't know how anybody can do that job, but I'm thankful we have those who try.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 10, 2018 06:34 PM (5F8qW)

280 Lucinda Bassett has a great audio course

Wasn't she on the Pet Thread awhile back ?

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:35 PM (6Ylg4)

281 "Sounds like the mysterious 2nd dossier.Posted by: JackStraw

Is the 2nd dossier really the origin? I'm thinking it is, at least in part. So time wise, it is the original (first) dossier?

you've followed the puzzle more closely than I, so figured you would know.

Calling it the 2nd dossier (as is common) makes most people think "ah, even more evidence on Trump/Russia". It should make them think "ah, the origin goes back to Hillary propagandists and trouble makers. It's just the early script, before it was laundered/amended through other sources.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2018 06:35 PM (bT8Z4)

282 This is true, but I can't afford a therapist.

Insomniac, I know that because of your pride you don't want to rely on people, but you have been here long enough to know (and probably much longer than I have been) that the horde has helped people who are going through difficulties because we care about them. If it would help you to go see a therapist to deal with PTSD and other family issue.s someone can set up something and people would like to help because they care about you. In a way you would bless them because you accepted the help and they were glad to do it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 06:35 PM (8+Ozj)

283 >>As with many things, it didn't used to be mostly stupid, but that trend I'm sure has taken over. Back in the day there were plenty of realists and non-academics. Have not bothered to check for a while. But the CFR label means little in itself.

If you are looking for a place where like minded people of all parties meet and share their agenda, it means a ton. CFR and Freedom House are indeed very influential with ties across the Atlantic.

Hillary Clinton, John McCain, McCain's aide who got the dossier David Kramer, Strobe Talbot, Victoria Nuland, even Glenn Simpson has ties to this group as he at one time worked for one of the sub foundations they funded. Oh and don't forget George Soros who pours tons of money into this place not to mention McCain's private institution/money laundering scam.

The list goes on and on and on of players in this corruption and links to these organizations. David Boies isn't a member but his wife who used to work in the Clinton White House is.

Given what is unfolding right now it is important to look for ties. In Christopher Steele's London testimony he claims Glenn Simpson told him to seek out McCain and brief him on the dossier. Steele asked if he could trust McCain and Simpson said something like "Yes, he is one of us".

CFR is routinely listed as one of the most influential think tanks in the country, mostly because it's membership is made up of current and former movers and shakers in both government and industry. Their influence should not be overlooked or minimized.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 06:37 PM (/tuJf)

284 I'm in Sunday morning mode. Where's the book thread.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:37 PM (5fRCd)

285 either that or the moose out front.
Posted by: redc1c4
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I was taking too much for granite.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:37 PM (QxXRY)

286 I did visit a Granite Museum once. It wasn't as exciting as one might wish it to be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:16 PM (w1zJX)
Isn't that in northern Georgia?

Posted by: clutch at February 10, 2018 06:37 PM (kiSdp)

287 Fuck Hollywood! Fuck their movies! Racist? Bwhahahahahaha! Don't care!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 10, 2018 06:37 PM (rdl6o)

288 either that or the moose out front.

The one that bit Insomniac's sister ?

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:38 PM (6Ylg4)

289 IIRC, the "second dossier" were some Blumenthal-Shearer short-story confections hatched up by Hillary's go-to hatchet men. Sid and Cody tried to push it through the State Department, with very limited results.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 06:38 PM (Pqytn)

290 Wrote earlier Leftist comments crack me up, people still are hoping this dossier is the end of President Trump and any day now.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:38 PM (aC6Sd)

291 Wouldn't some churches and/or synagogues have "divorce survivors'" groups?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 06:39 PM (Dbv1R)

292 284 I'm in Sunday morning mode. Where's the book thread.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/hilariously-bad-book-covers?utm_term=.aaK9w2vY3#.gdPBzLbj5

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2018 06:39 PM (qJtVm)

293 Isn't that in northern Georgia?
Posted by: clutch
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Yes, Elberton. Home of the weird obelisk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:39 PM (FJXGr)

294 286 I did visit a Granite Museum once. It wasn't as exciting as one might wish it to be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:16 PM (w1zJX)
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I was going to visit the Mustard Museum when I was in Wisconsin last summer but didn't make it.

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 06:39 PM (Sfs6o)

295 http://bit.ly/2G5uJFr
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Puzzle Pieces - Former Asst. Sec of State Robert Charles Discusses the 'FISA Review Court' - May Explain Judge Ruben Contreras Recusal
Posted on February 10, 2018 by sundance

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 10, 2018 06:40 PM (y3aQB)

296 it's news (heh) to most here, but CNN/the press's self-degradation - this time, their seeming affection for one of the most vile criminal regimes in history - is getting lots of abuse on the twatters from non-insane journalists. The Korea stuff.


Sure it's jaw-dropping, but to me it's pretty discouraging. The historical and moral illiteracy of sooo many Americans has reached the point where this is possible - a major network playing nice with one the most infamously repugnant and hated regimes on earth.


I remain guardedly pessimistic.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 10, 2018 06:31 PM (vP09u)

Are the medias getting all nostalgic about some murderous communist dictator?

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:40 PM (5fRCd)

297 Fuck Hollywood! Fuck their movies! Racist? Bwhahahahahaha! Don't care!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 10, 2018 06:37 PM (rdl6o)

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We now return you to our regularly-scheduled programming.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:40 PM (9SkN+)

298 Maybe there needs to be a Ace Australia addition so the book thread could come out a day ahead.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:40 PM (aC6Sd)

299 250: As a child of divorce, I eventually came to understand my mother's actions and how easily she destroyed lives while pretending to be the victim. It was one of those bolt out of the blue moments, and it changed my life, my relationships and I never spoke to her again. I was 20, I've been 29 for a very long time.
This reality eventually slapped my brother in the face as well.

Posted by: CN at February 10, 2018 06:40 PM (xFKZn)

300 Lucinda Bassett has a great audio course

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:35 PM (6Ylg4)


I look forward to hearing it ... she's a One.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 10, 2018 06:41 PM (fiGNd)

301 Yes, Elberton. Home of the weird obelisk.

I saw Weird Al Obelisk open for Eberton's Elbows.

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:41 PM (6Ylg4)

302 I was going to visit the Mustard Museum when I was in Wisconsin last summer but didn't make it.
Posted by: Weasel
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I did visit the Greyhound Bus Museum in Hibbing, MN.

Small, but interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:41 PM (FJXGr)

303 288 either that or the moose out front.

The one that bit Insomniac's sister ?
Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:38 PM (6Ylg4)

She shouldn't have tried to carve her initials in it.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:41 PM (NWiLs)

304 291 Wouldn't some churches and/or synagogues have "divorce survivors'" groups?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 06:39 PM (Dbv1R)

Yes there are.
And when I'm home I'll find a grief share group.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:42 PM (5fRCd)

305 Not to be missed is the Tuba Museum in Lansing, MI. Also home of the Lugnuts baseball team (single A).

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 06:42 PM (tr2D7)

306 Poking my head in here with a chess-related note for our crafting 'ettes (and 'rons):

DMC has just (re-)released the sixth and final series of antique cross-stitch patterns by 19th-century Austrian designer Therese de Dillmont, updated with present-day color numbers. They're available as free PDF downloads from the DMC website (https://www.dmc.com/us/)--and Pattern 6.15 is chess-themed! It includes a small chessboard pattern, a border of larger squares, and six different chess pieces.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at February 10, 2018 06:42 PM (3032H)

307 I was going to visit the Mustard Museum when I was in Wisconsin last summer but didn't make it.

Too much hot doggin' ?

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:43 PM (6Ylg4)

308 "Back in the day there were plenty of realists and non-academics. Have not bothered to check for a while. But the CFR label means little in itself. " Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid

I know little about it, but by getting people on their salary, they can have some leverage. Ted Cruz's wife was working for them, did some work on NAFTA policy iirc.

Club members like to have loyalty to the club. And generally there is some inner sanctum that leads the direction of the whole. That would be the ones connected tot he money that funds it all, decides the direction they'd like the "research papers' to take. (like Yes to NAFTA, open borders stuff.)

I suspect many laws are written directly by these guys, the 2 thousand pages behind the nice sounding titles. Saves a lot of work for the elected people.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2018 06:43 PM (bT8Z4)

309 We laugh, but many of these unique small museums warrant a visit if one is in the area.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:43 PM (FJXGr)

310 >>Calling it the 2nd dossier (as is common) makes most people think "ah, even more evidence on Trump/Russia". It should make them think "ah, the origin goes back to Hillary propagandists and trouble makers. It's just the early script, before it was laundered/amended through other sources.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. There is a 2nd dossier, getting really sick of that word, that was put together by Cody Shearer and Sid Blumenthal and given to the State Department.

Victoria Nuland was on the tube this week saying that she received the information and turned it over to the FBI but there is also speculation that she gave it to Steele and he gave it to the FBI. In any case, there is a second batch of crap put together by Clinton smear merchants to add more to the load.

Nunes moved his investigation toward the State Dept. for this reason and is talking about a 2nd memo laying out what was done with that memo.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 06:43 PM (/tuJf)

311 Not to be missed is the Tuba Museum in Lansing, MI. Also home of the Lugnuts baseball team (single A).
Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 06:42 PM (tr2D7)


The Travellers' Club and Tuba Museum in Okemos is closed and the ashes salted, good riddance.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2018 06:44 PM (y87Qq)

312 She shouldn't have tried to carve her initials in it.

LOL

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:44 PM (6Ylg4)

313 Seriously the most interesting museum of been in was the Museum of Gold in Bogota

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:44 PM (5fRCd)

314 Did you know that there is a youtube video devoted to explaining how women attended to their bathroom duties while wearing hoop skirts or bustles? A high-quality production, too, with no nudity!

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (Pqytn)

315 The Travellers' Club and Tuba Museum in Okemos is closed and the ashes salted, good riddance.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Well that blows.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (tr2D7)

316 One Memo, Two Memos ... Whatevs.

They're all crooked.

Posted by: Typical American at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (fiGNd)

317 273 Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:23 PM (NWiLs)

Lucinda Bassett has a great audio course that you might be able to get from your library. It actually helped more than the therapist.

I know there are different issues here but it was a great comfort to know that the constant storm of thoughts was not "me", and that my core being was fine; I just needed a push to get out of the rut of obsessive thinking.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 10, 2018 06:33 PM (qJtVm)

I've heard of her but don't know much about her. I'll check into it. I'm not so sure about the wellness of my core being, but it is what it is.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (NWiLs)

318 I look forward to hearing it ... she's a One.

She was on Lawrence Welk.....

she was a One anna two....

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (6Ylg4)

319 Not to be missed is the Tuba Museum in Lansing, MI. Also home of the Lugnuts baseball team (single A).
Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 06:42 PM (tr2D7)

The Travellers' Club and Tuba Museum in Okemos is closed and the ashes salted, good riddance.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2018 06:44 PM (y87Qq)


Oh! Speaking of 'and the ashes salted', the last time I atewent there and ordered notional 'food' (ca. TYOOL2000), there were ants in the salt shaker. How do you have such a wretched approach to foodservice sanitation that there are ANTS in SALT.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (y87Qq)

320 I was going to visit the Mustard Museum when I was in Wisconsin last summer but didn't make it.
Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 06:39 PM (Sfs6o)

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PRO TIP: If you get the TouristPass you can do the Mustard Museum, the Dream Whip Gallery and the Hand Lotion Experience all for one low price.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (9SkN+)

321 PRO TIP: If you get the TouristPass you can do the Mustard Museum, the Dream Whip Gallery and the Hand Lotion Experience all for one low price.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (9SkN+)


I give those away for free !!!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (fiGNd)

322 And this is how you get a movie thread. "Michael" "The worlds largest frying pan" and "The Worlds Largest Ball of Twine"

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (/pp9Y)

323 304 291 Wouldn't some churches and/or synagogues have "divorce survivors'" groups?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2018 06:39 PM (Dbv1R)

Yes there are.
And when I'm home I'll find a grief share group.
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:42 PM (5fRCd)

I went to one and it helped...at the time. I'm realizing that this is much deeper than that sort of setting is equipped to address.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (NWiLs)

324 Care to bet on that?

There isn't any question that I am legally correct in what I said in my post.

While Judges can in fact be arbitrary and capricious - I think that the left realizes that the only way they can get everyone's guns away from them is to establish a one world government - the Beast of Revelation - and thus overrule the US Constitution.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (tvThN)

325 "Forsyth-Edwards Notation"





Is that anything like the Forsyte Saga?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (SiINZ)

326
I did visit the Greyhound Bus Museum in Hibbing, MN.

Small, but interesting.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:41 PM (FJXGr)

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Weird. Buses aren't what Hibbing is famous for.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (9SkN+)

327 Yes, Elberton. Home of the weird obelisk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2018 06:39 PM (FJXGr)
Little Grand Canyon in southwestern GA is pretty neat. That is a desolate area of the state though.

Posted by: clutch at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (kiSdp)

328 BTW the Horde has been an excellent grief share group for me.
Lots of people here have been through pain and survived.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:48 PM (5fRCd)

329 I've heard of her but don't know much about her

Just go outside at nite and go

Aaaaaoooooooooooooooooooo

She'll find you.

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:48 PM (6Ylg4)

330 Weird. Buses aren't what Hibbing is famous for.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (9SkN+)
Correct, it is the home town of Kevin McHale.

Posted by: clutch at February 10, 2018 06:49 PM (kiSdp)

331 The last museum I was in was the Spotted Cow in New Glarus, WI. Oh wait, that's a brewery, never mind.

Posted by: dartist at February 10, 2018 06:49 PM (nisXv)

332 I took a nap and got here late. So I'll just ogle the dress-wearers.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2018 06:49 PM (sdi6R)

333 Yeah,because they did.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/288368/

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2018 06:50 PM (LiyEm)

334 The Mob Museum in Vegas is worth a couple of hours.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:50 PM (9SkN+)

335 The fact I adored my Faye will, I believe, work for my long term healing.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)

336 It is hard for me to fully get this lawyer speak but Sundance's article points to what I wondered could be that Flynn's attorneys might gain a advantage

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:50 PM (aC6Sd)

337 The Mob Museum in Vegas is worth a couple of hours.

It's worth a shot.

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:51 PM (6Ylg4)

338 Little Grand Canyon in southwestern GA is pretty neat. That is a desolate area of the state though.
Posted by: clutch at February 10, 2018 06:47 PM (kiSdp)

It's literally an hour from my house where I am now.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 06:51 PM (DKwRk)

339 Oriental girl has the nicest chess. How is that possible?

Posted by: Eromero at February 10, 2018 06:51 PM (zLDYs)

340 I remember visiting the Grand Gulf MS State Park. The museum had every naval and military projectile type used during the Civil War. Aisle after aisle of every size of shot and shell.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 06:51 PM (Pqytn)

341 We now return you to our regularly-scheduled programming.


Yeah, sorry! I read the sidebar and I'm just fed up with this bullshit. I'm not giving Hollywood a dime of my money ever again. Whether I should have shared my disgust with the Horde is another thing altogether. Hydrocodone is a hell of a drug.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 10, 2018 06:51 PM (rdl6o)

342 dossier is just a pretentious word for 'file'. Like if you want to sound snooty, say 'chapeau' instead of hat.

Posted by: kallisto at February 10, 2018 06:52 PM (6GiCM)

343 BTW the Horde has been an excellent grief share group for me.

Lots of people here have been through pain and survived.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:48 PM (5fRCd)

Keyword: through. Just no escaping it, hoping to fill time and outlast it.
And life will never be the same without them, nor should it be. That phrase, for some reason, has stuck with me the whole time.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of ignorant Loudoun County hillbillies at February 10, 2018 06:52 PM (cu8/f)

344

While I'm bloody awful at chess I do enjoy this thread. Thank you for it each week.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2018 06:52 PM (SiINZ)

345 Since this is a dress thread and all, there is the National First Lady's Library in Canton OH. Lots of dresses and gowns there.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 06:52 PM (tr2D7)

346 I'm a big fan of local museums. They're there because someone gives a sh*t, and that's all there is to it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - My Car Uses No Gas But Have to Fill It Up Every Night at February 10, 2018 06:52 PM (ks6bw)

347

Once the queens are off the board




So no pansies can play?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2018 06:53 PM (SiINZ)

348 I also like the crazy stuff you find on road trips, though. I've driven an hour out of my way to see an enormous milk carton at a dairy farm.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - My Car Uses No Gas But Have to Fill It Up Every Night at February 10, 2018 06:53 PM (ks6bw)

349 Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 06:45 PM (NWiLs)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usEJWaJHyFU

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 10, 2018 06:53 PM (y3aQB)

350 Insomniac, you need a daily activity that takes you outside of your mind.

Something you have to do because someone is relying on you to do it.

Maybe volunteer at a pet shelter? Foster a dog?

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 10, 2018 06:53 PM (hMwEB)

351 It's literally an hour from my house where I am now.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 06:51 PM (DKwRk)
Fort Benning? There was some BBQ down there as I remember. Too hot for this Yankee to live there. Whew.

Posted by: clutch at February 10, 2018 06:54 PM (kiSdp)

352 O/T
I love the Olympics.
We already have an African American whining about an unfair vote, a gay man flaming out on a Christian and then refusing to talk to him, and the leftist press swooning over the family of a murderous tyrant.
I can't wait to not watch what happens next. I predict some kind of bad sportsmanship after a big ego takes a big loss. Or has that already happened?

Posted by: Downcast at February 10, 2018 06:54 PM (SeZMM)

353 Reposted from the ONT:

568
I have met the Polgar sisters and their father.

The Dad is a serious trip. He wrote a book called (my translation) "How to Raise Perfect Children". Treated his daughters more like investment projects than children.

Judit was very nice when I knew her, and speaks nine languages in addition to her chess skills. Dad is crazy, and not very nice, but somehow something worked.

Posted by: MiklosBot release 3.1.014.018 at February 10, 2018 01:48 AM (zCyNd)



For reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polgar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Polgar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia_Polgar

I am nowhere near their league as a chess player, but even if I was, I wouldn't stand a chance against any of them, as I wouldn't be able to concentrate on the game.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2018 06:55 PM (sdi6R)

354 Since this is a dress thread and all, there is the National First Lady's Library in Canton OH. Lots of dresses and gowns there.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 06:52 PM (tr2D7)

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Just imagine, if Hillary would have been elected they would have to put in a display of Bill's cum-stained boxer shorts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:55 PM (9SkN+)

355 And it keeps getting better! There is a minor league baseball team - the Lynchburg Hillcats - about 30 minutes from the farm.

Posted by: Weasel at February 10, 2018 06:55 PM (Sfs6o)

356 If
what McCarthy says is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not,
there had better be indictments. Early retirements won't do.
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I don't know. I think shunning NRO's NeverTrumper staffers is enough for now at least. You did mean the NROers didn't you?

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2018 06:56 PM (ewxPW)

357 I've seen a giant Ukrainian egg and an equally big Canada goose. Gimli Manitoba has a Viking

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:56 PM (5fRCd)

358 Went to a mariners museum in San Pedro near LA, that was cool if you like ship models

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:56 PM (aC6Sd)

359 Northernlurker, Faye is with you in everything you do. You both shared the most of mundane tasks and you will smile over having taken the garbage out memories.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 10, 2018 06:56 PM (/pp9Y)

360 Just imagine, if Hillary would have been elected they would have to put in a display of Bill's cum-stained boxer shorts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:55 PM (9SkN+)

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Back in their early days, Hillary used to donate their underwear to charity for the tax deduction.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 06:57 PM (Pqytn)

361 Posted by: clutch at February 10, 2018 06:54 PM (kiSdp)

Benning is Northwest. I'm northeast.

I'm looking forward to the heat because all this year's global warming sucks.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 06:57 PM (DKwRk)

362 Judit was very nice when I knew her

Growing up, her family was so poor, they couldn't afford an h.

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 06:57 PM (6Ylg4)

363 " In any case, there is a second batch of crap put together by Clinton smear merchants to add more to the load. Posted by: JackStraw

OK thx. I was thinking what Steele put together (the dossier) was really first formulated by Shearer, but passed on to Steele (by whatever circuitous route) and Steele made a few changes, and put his name on it. (somehow Russkies also involved, for whatever reason, to five it Russkie links I suppose)

but maybe that is not what they refer to by "2nd dossier", and I may not remember the details correctly.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2018 06:57 PM (bT8Z4)

364 I'm not giving Hollywood a dime of my money ever again.

I don't think the dumb shits know what they did to their image. There's a whole bunch of them I can't watch anymore.

Posted by: dartist at February 10, 2018 06:58 PM (nisXv)

365 Went to a mariners museum in San Pedro near LA, that was cool if you like ship models
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 06:56 PM (aC6Sd)

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Cabrillo Marine Museum. That's where I met Mrs. Cicero.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:58 PM (9SkN+)

366 Gimli Manitoba has a Viking
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:56 PM (5fRCd)


And, conveniently, a disused airbase!

Posted by: hogmartin at February 10, 2018 06:58 PM (y87Qq)

367 Cabrillo Marine Museum. That's where I met Mrs. Cicero.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 06:58 PM (9SkN+)

Sounds like the basis of a TomTom.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:59 PM (5fRCd)

368 I am a sucker for militaria sites, Civil war or Revolution, never stopped at Paoli massacre site but drove by it often

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 07:00 PM (aC6Sd)

369 Romcom.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 07:00 PM (5fRCd)

370 335 The fact I adored my Faye will, I believe, work for my long term healing.
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)

I agree with that. My Grandma passed at age 75, before my Grandpa. She told him not to give up, to stay active with the church, send Christmas cards to all the numerous kids and grandkids. He did just that. He lived another nine years, and not simply moping around the house. He lived well.

When he did pass away, nine years later, the priest at his church delivered a wonderful message, concluding with a belief that Art had offered to Beth a nine year Novena.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 10, 2018 07:01 PM (IMacf)

371
Cabrillo Marine Museum. That's where I met Mrs. Cicero.
Posted by: Cicero
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Wanna see my mainmast?

Works every time.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 07:01 PM (tr2D7)

372 Romcom.
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 10, 2018 07:00 PM (5fRCd)

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Heh. Now I got it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 07:01 PM (9SkN+)

373 Then, eventually, force yourself to smile at girls again. Then say 'hi' after the smile.

Get a grounded shirt for the tasering though.

Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2018 07:02 PM (FhXTo)

374 It's beyond the "little" museum stuff, of course, but:

I'm not a big military or history buff, and Norfolk is still one of the most fascinating places I've ever visited.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - My Car Uses No Gas But Have to Fill It Up Every Night at February 10, 2018 07:02 PM (ks6bw)

375 I am a sucker for militaria sites, Civil war or Revolution, never stopped at Paoli massacre site but drove by it often

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 07:00 PM (aC6Sd)

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Not one of Anthony Wayne's best efforts.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 07:02 PM (Pqytn)

376 >>OK thx. I was thinking what Steele put together (the dossier) was really first formulated by Shearer, but passed on to Steele (by whatever circuitous route) and Steele made a few changes, and put his name on it. (somehow Russkies also involved, for whatever reason, to five it Russkie links I suppose)

It is getting confusing and it's not 100% clear yet how these two documents are related if at all. I guess it's still possible that Shearer and Blumenthal wrote both of them and delivered them through different channels to try and show that there was corroboration for some of the claims against Trump.

I expect more will come out this week and when Nunes lays out his next memo.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2018 07:04 PM (/tuJf)

377 Wife had a paid for class in San Pedro and I got to go for free with nothing to do but travel around LA myself all day, went to San Juan Capistrano and La Brea tar pit museum

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2018 07:04 PM (aC6Sd)

378 At
the moment it's gone the other way, the worst states spiking the ball
and laughing at the concept underlying Heller. Imagine some imaginary
right, or something cultural that's been absurdly constitutionalized
like marriage definition - as opposed to a central right that was key to
the whole system even being established - taking years and years and
years to be recognized/enforced down the line. Yes, it is unimaginable.


Yes, at the moment. However, it takes only one honest DOJ attorney in the US - before one honest judge to change that. One New Jersey or Chicago or New York law enforcement person convicted and sentenced under 18 USC 242 would bring a screeching halt to the whole gun control farce.

What didn't you understand? 18 USC 242 says no law enforcement person may violate anyone's individual constitutional rights. That means local, state, and federal.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2018 07:04 PM (tvThN)

379 >>>I did visit a Granite Museum once. It wasn't as exciting as one might wish it to be

same for me with the 'winchester mystery house'
i saw all the billboards advertising 'mystery' since i was little, and when i finally went, it was the worst letdown. she was one sad, weird lady.


(sarah winchester of winchester gun company)

Posted by: concrete girl at February 10, 2018 07:04 PM (Gz24F)

380 One of my brothers and I visited the Waxhaw massacre site. No museum there, but the area is realtively untouched.

Now, the Kings Mountain battlefield, in SC, gave me the willlies. That place is haunted.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 07:05 PM (Pqytn)

381 I think I see NOOD movies on the main page

Posted by: Hands at February 10, 2018 07:06 PM (EzdLW)

382 Les Invalides in Paris has a pretty extensive collection of European military gear dating back to around Charlemagne, through WWII. Definitely worth a peek.

The kicker is it's attached to the chapel that has the sarcophagus of Napoleon. Pictures don't do it justice. It's really impressive.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 07:06 PM (9SkN+)

383 I really, really, really want to watch the movie when it comes out. "All the President's Enemies."

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 10, 2018 07:07 PM (uZ8ZO)

384 Movie nood.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2018 07:07 PM (tr2D7)

385
Not one of Anthony Wayne's best efforts.
Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2018 07:02 PM


He was MAD, I tell you!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 10, 2018 07:08 PM (IqV8l)

386 South of the Border at SC/NC line on 95. Essentially just an enormous run-down gas station complex with buildings and buildings full of knick knacks and gee-gaws, and still one of my favorite places I've ever been. Mostly just because of all of the billboards leading up to it from 200 miles away.

(Giant hot dog)
Everyone's a weiner at Pedro's!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - My Car Uses No Gas But Have to Fill It Up Every Night at February 10, 2018 07:08 PM (ks6bw)

387 Now, the Kings Mountain battlefield, in SC, gave me the willlies. That place is haunted.

I felt the same way at the Little Big Horn site. Almost nothing there really, but put together step by step so well, you can imagine the sequence of events. Pearl Harbor too, bigtime.

Posted by: dartist at February 10, 2018 07:09 PM (nisXv)

388 Thanks for letting me unload, and for the kind words and advice. It's been rough lately. I'm going to sign out for a bit, should be back for the ONT.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 10, 2018 07:09 PM (NWiLs)

389 Nood - Duck Soup

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2018 07:10 PM (6Ylg4)

390 Now, the Kings Mountain battlefield, in SC, gave me the willlies. That place is haunted.

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I felt that way visiting the crater in Virginia.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - My Car Uses No Gas But Have to Fill It Up Every Night at February 10, 2018 07:11 PM (ks6bw)

391 Their influence should not be overlooked or minimized.

What about taken as a predicate act?

Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2018 07:11 PM (FhXTo)

392 Elberton, Georgia's tombstone territory, Hartwell, best little town by a dam site, and Calhoun Falls (hometown of Clemson's current QB). Beautiful country all.

Posted by: Eromero at February 10, 2018 07:11 PM (zLDYs)

393 306 ... Elisabeth,

Thanks for the link to DMC cross stitch patterns. I am attempting to learn some basic needle work skills to improve my dexterity. The patterns listed are beyond me but are intriguing.

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2018 07:11 PM (V+03K)

394 Benning is Northwest. I'm northeast.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 06:57 PM (DKwRk)
Cool, my MiL lives northeast of there also. That area has exploded in the 30 years I have known The Wyff.

Posted by: clutch at February 10, 2018 07:13 PM (kiSdp)

395 Okay, I'm gonna be a PITA here, but.......
Will those of you who buy Cuban cigars please reconsider pouring dollars directly into that regime? The government owns the industry, as you must know.
Would you buy cigars directly from the mullahs, Kim Jong-Un, or the PLO?

I've heard that Nicaraguan and Honduran cigars are better anyway!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2018 07:13 PM (0jtPF)

396 So CNN is fawning over the sister of North Korea's dictator? She has such a warm smile and firm handshake. No matter that she is in charge of propaganda-that her brother killed their uncle by feeding him to dogs and killed her half brother and is starving their people?? People need to march on every outfit of CNN. It's like Duranty and Stalin all over again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 07:14 PM (8+Ozj)

397 The mullahs couldn't make a decent cigar if their regime depended on it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2018 07:14 PM (9SkN+)

398 Okay, I'm gonna be a PITA here,

Nah, you didn't come close to being a PITA. Take some lessons from BSG. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 07:15 PM (8+Ozj)

399 306. yes thank you Elisabeth

Posted by: kallisto at February 10, 2018 07:15 PM (6GiCM)

400 CFR funds people and studies - been a long time since I followed the details, but it was always much more of a networking and pedigree club than anything else. Not a think tank like the ones in DC. But another perch. And they don't lobby per se in DC, like the outfits that *do* write much of the legislation (esp. in finance, tax, banking, and other high-$$$ areas).


The shared mindset is what matters. And it didn't used to be uniform - nor was most of it even anathema to sane people. Recall that not that long ago, the "foreign policy establishment" was associated with things like NATO (at the height of the Cold War), and opposed by Women Strike for Peace and the Greens in Germany, on things like INF.


Given that most of the think tanks in the Beltway, most of the time, aren't very influential, I would not describe something like CFR as influential. You'll find 90% of the people working in the field above a certain level have some CFR connection of some kind, if only tangential, but it won't predict or explain much that wouldn't be clear already from other things like resumes, policy positions, etc.





Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 10, 2018 07:16 PM (vP09u)

401 Benning is Northwest. I'm northeast.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 10, 2018 06:57 PM (DKwRk)

Isn't Andersonville down that way? Have you been there?

Posted by: clutch at February 10, 2018 07:17 PM (kiSdp)

402 So CNN is fawning over the sister of North Korea's dictator? She has
such a warm smile and firm handshake. No matter that she is in charge of
propaganda-that her brother killed their uncle by feeding him to dogs
and killed her half brother and is starving their people?? People need
to march on every outfit of CNN. It's like Duranty and Stalin all over
again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 07:14 PM (8+Ozj)
--This is what the left really believes. Its why they supported the Iran deal. They want to say nice things to all of America's enemies, and treat them with kindness, especially if doing so may harm their real enemy-- us.

Posted by: Revenant at February 10, 2018 07:32 PM (yXLbm)

403 Eric Bolling on CNN's fawning coverage:

If...
- Starving your people
- Oppressing your people
- Killing anyone who opposes your dictator brother

...were a "trialthalon" event at the 2018 Olympics... Kim Jong Un's sister would be favored for the gold medal.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2018 07:37 PM (8+Ozj)

404 This media fawning over one of modern history's most vile regimes has lowered my estimation of a large part of America even further. One might explain that it's the weekend, it's a sports story, people don't pay much attention - and all of those things could help explain it.


But that such behavior doesn't seem to elicit a sharp rejection - apart from the usual suspects - further lowers my confidence in the country as a whole.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 10, 2018 09:44 PM (vP09u)

405 >>>Posted by: #SalonLukeWarmDouchbagandaQuarters at February 10, 2018 04:54 PM (FhXTo)

Here's a link to the Andy McCarthy, NRO, "I Was Wrong" article:

http://tinyurl.com/yadvzsqp

Posted by: m at February 11, 2018 01:15 AM (VKsXm)

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