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Wednesday Overnight Open Thread (1/31/18 ) Good-Bye January Edition
It’s one of the many things libertarians don’t understand about society. Government does not grow because it is attempting to meet a need. Government grows because it can. Government never needs a reason.Quote II
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"Many Irish-Americans are not offended, but many are. And should that also change? The answer is yes, unequivocally yes. Pernicious, negative stereotypes of marginalized people that offend even some among them should be changed. It's not that hard." Max KellermanHow sad to walk through life perpetually offended and frightened of one's shadow. Quote III
We talk about issues. We don't talk about gossip. I don't talk to gossip columnists. I talk about issues." Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)Which leads us to the final quote of the night. How fitting Mr. & Mrs. Sanders. Quote IV
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margaret Thostaer
Green with envy, Portland greenies seek to impose carbon taxes on prosperous companies.
A coalition led by environmental groups filed an initiative petition with the city of Portland on Jan. 18 to enact a sales tax on large retailers to fund projects that will decrease carbon emissions. They call their measure the Portland Climate Action Community Benefits Initiative 2018 and are shooting for the November city ballot. The chief petitioner is Adriana Voss-Andreae, chairwoman of 350PDX, an affiliate of an international group working to avert dramatic climate change. The measure aims to enact a new sales tax of 1 percent on retailers with more than $1 billion in gross revenues and more than $500,000 in Portland revenues. Retailers selling basic groceries, medicines and health care services are exempted
California continues to march to Secession.
California’s state Senate joined a host of other states by approving a bill that would create net neutrality rules after the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) voted to rescind similar rules nationwide late last year. While the FCC’s repeal of net neutrality rules prevented states from creating their own, California joined New York and Montana who are forging ahead and crafting laws in light of the agency’s controversial vote, Ars Technica reports.
What is the sense of having a union of states when the spoiled bastards want to take their ball and go home.
An iconic brand on the way to extinction? Harley-Davidson to close one of its plants.
MILWAUKEE — Harley-Davidson's sales fell sharply in 2017 and the company will move ahead with a plan to consolidate manufacturing operations, including the closure of its Kansas City, Mo. plant. The world's largest maker of heavyweight motorcycles has struggled to reverse a four-year sales slide, with growth overseas somewhat helping offset a decline in the U.S. bike market. The Milwaukee-based company said its net income fell 82% in its fiscal fourth quarter to $8.3 million, compared with a year earlier. Earnings per share were 5 cents, down from 27 cents a year earlier. Revenue was $1.23 billion, up from $1.11 billion.
Someone has some explaining to do. Shit-Ton of pain pills sent to two pharmacies in West Virginia.
Over the past decade, out-of-state drug companies shipped 20.8 million prescription painkillers to two pharmacies four blocks apart in a Southern West Virginia town with 2,900 people, according to a congressional committee investigating the opioid crisis. The House Energy and Commerce Committee cited the massive shipments of hydrocodone and oxycodone — two powerful painkillers — to the town of Williamson, in Mingo County, amid the panel’s inquiry into the role of drug distributors in the opioid epidemic.
January 31, 2017, English singer, bassist, and songwriter John Wetton died in his sleep at his home in Bournemouth, Dorset, UK from colon cancer. He rose to fame with bands Mogul Thrash, Family, King Crimson, Roxy Music, Uriah Heep, and Wishbone Ash. After his period with King Crimson, Wetton formed UK, and later he was the frontman and principal songwriter of the supergroup Asia. Their biggest hit 'Heat of the Moment', reached No. 4 in the US in 1982. via thisdayinmusic.com
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Recorded in 1999, released in 2000. Diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer in 2002. Zevon died on September 7, 2003, aged 56. Talk about a prophetic song.
Three of the biggest corporations in the world don’t think health care should be a business. Amazon, JP Morgan, and Berkshire Hathaway are starting a health-care company that is “free from profit-making incentives and constraints,” sending US health insurance and pharmacy stocks plummeting. The venture, which doesn’t yet have a name and is still in the early planning stages, will initially be focused on “technology solutions” that will provide “simplified, high-quality and transparent healthcare at a reasonable cost” to the combined 1.2 million employees of the three participating companies.
Who the hell bank rolls Gloria
When Essie Grundy walked into the Walmart in the Riverside County, California, town of Perris, she had to get assistance to get a 49-cent comb out of a locked case. Now, she’s filing a lawsuit. Why, you may ask? Well, according to KCBS-TV, the comb is a product predominantly used by African-Americans — and the chain was engaging in racial discrimination by putting the comb behind a locked case. “I originally got the product from the Walmart in Riverside … and it was such a good product, I wanted to introduce it to my older children,” Grundy said at a news conference Friday.
"Heav'n has no Rage, like Love to Hatred turn'd, Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd."
A Houston woman is facing felony charges after she trolled her husband’s girlfriend by posting an ad in her name on Craigslist seeking sex from married men. Tamantha Johnson, 48, allegedly posed as her divorce-attorney hubby’s girlfriend Ryan Boudreaux and created the posting in July 2017 “requesting married men come over and service her on a regular basis,” according to a charging document. The ad also included the woman’s name, age and a “personal photo,” according to prosecutors.
its been over a week since ive let everyone who helped me out of prison down, so many of you have helped me thru tough times, i tried too hard to do too much, im sorry im a human being and not a symbol, i have hit rock bottomWah, wah, wah.
The balls on this bitch. Hillary Clinton, please go away, far, far, far away.
In her post, which was published minutes before President Donald Trump's State of the Union address, Clinton explained her thinking in 2008 and argued that, at the time, the punishment she gave Strider — a temporary pay reduction and required counseling — was adequate. "I didn't think firing him was the best solution to the problem," she wrote. "I believed the punishment was severe and the message to him unambiguous."So is hitting a puppy with a rolled up newspaper.
But then again, Hillary Clinton will never be POTUS!!!!
LOL
Officers described Weaver as "naked and clearly under the influence of a controlled substance." The office area of the building was reportedly ransacked, with damages estimated in excess of $5,000. Police believe Weaver accidentally called 911 from an office phone as he ransacked the building.
Petty would meet his wife Joanne at Chevron, and she also took part in the blood drives. But upon retiring, she realized she no longer had a go-to place to donate. "That was when I said, 'Why don't we start our own (blood drive)?'" Petty recalled. And so in December 2002, the Pettys held the inaugural Asbury United Methodist Church blood drive, collecting around 25 units of blood. Just over 15 years later, the Livermore church's blood drive has become a monthly event that typically nets around 50 units of blood each time. Petty estimates a little over 5,800 units of blood have been collected all told.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 09:45 PM (sZJfc)
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lost another Chappaquidditch match yesterday. Sad.
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Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at January 31, 2018 09:51 PM (e9G8E)
Cheesy, but fun.
Posted by: Shopgirl: #GoodLuckAlexSmith at January 31, 2018 09:51 PM (5E/ly)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 31, 2018 09:52 PM (QLvwG)
Some intel agency insiders are having to make some important calculations/decisions. Honest people want the truth told, but some worry if they make a move. that those protecting bad acts may ultimately win & they'll be hung out to dry. Nonetheless they must choose their side
Posted by: MISHBOT at January 31, 2018 09:52 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 09:52 PM (eIQHF)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 09:49 PM (fA1SL)
Call it whatever you want.
I don't get paid to care. But, I do get vision coverage.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 09:52 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: freaked at January 31, 2018 09:52 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 09:45 PM (sZJfc)
2 I Told You.
*Plants Flag*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 09:45 PM (Ckg4U)
I'll admit, I giggled like a schoolgirl.
Posted by: filbert at January 31, 2018 09:53 PM (s5o+q)
Ever since he wondered into Around The Horn as the original host breaking into sports hot takes, debates, and opinions like a cable new channel, he sucks. No way to polish that turd.
Posted by: Monk at January 31, 2018 09:53 PM (g4lFK)
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Posted by: Skandia Recluse, The Logorrehic at January 31, 2018 09:54 PM (O+THj)
Although the question is asked: How did the girlfriend get a 'personal photo' of the OTHER girlfriend?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 09:54 PM (sZJfc)
In Hollywood, you can't just brazen that one out? I blame Trump killin' it last night.
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2018 09:54 PM (zu3jZ)
-Posted by: filbert at January 31, 2018 09:53 PM (s5o+q)
*HAH!*
Who wouldn't?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 09:54 PM (Ckg4U)
Good evening, all.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 31, 2018 09:54 PM (8O3HH)
What we finally settled on was that Netjets would deliver the denial of coverage letter from Amazon the day following you asking for an medical procedure estimate after a $35 fee was automatically deducted from your checking account.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 31, 2018 09:54 PM (tr2D7)
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Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at January 31, 2018 09:55 PM (+ldAm)
So who does that leave?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 31, 2018 09:55 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Aragorn Son of Arathorn at January 31, 2018 09:55 PM (Vl5bQ)
Bryce is specatacular, but only the Grand has such a vista that you feel as though it's its own world, separate from this one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 09:55 PM (V2Yro)
I don't know, "horze" looks like a real Australian company.
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2018 09:56 PM (zu3jZ)
"Thanks for asking. The answer is no. But if sign up for amazon Prime End-Of-Life-Care today and receive free unlimited streaming for 30 days!"
Posted by: Hands at January 31, 2018 09:56 PM (EzdLW)
Be nice to each other.
Or if you're mean to each other, at least be uproariously funny about it.
Posted by: filbert at January 31, 2018 09:56 PM (s5o+q)
Plus tonight i found out i have Costas Eye. Back to doctor office tomorrow.
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Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2018 09:57 PM (zu3jZ)
Johnson is being charged with online harassment and impersonation.
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Poor judgement, yes. Minor harm to the victim. It's ridiculous that she is being charged with a felony. This is a misdemeanor level offense.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 09:57 PM (pvjTE)
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Two Frigates and a Rather Large chicken-hauler.
/Iranian Navy
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 09:57 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 09:47 PM (sZJfc)
It is when you keep loosing.
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Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 09:45 PM (sZJfc)
2 I Told You.
*Plants Flag*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 09:45 PM (Ckg4U)
I'll admit, I giggled like a schoolgirl.
Posted by: filbert at January 31, 2018 09:53 PM (s5o+q)
Nobody remembers the landing crew of Apollo 12.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at January 31, 2018 09:58 PM (bNbo2)
I giggled like a schoolgirl.
-- and thought at first you'd written, "like a shopgirl".
Hee.
Posted by: Shopgirl: #GoodLuckAlexSmith at January 31, 2018 09:58 PM (5E/ly)
And keep sleeping. There seems to be something else that catches everyone while they're rebounding.
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2018 09:58 PM (zu3jZ)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 09:59 PM (V2Yro)
I have had a herniated lumbar disc in my back for years but recently the discomfort has gotten worse, with pain down into my hips and thighs. No big problems with lifting things or getting around but it's become pretty uncomfortable and it's not improving.
I hate the thought of taking pain medication regularly and I'm not sure the doctors can do much.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 09:59 PM (FGVgC)
How many people talk to their computers?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, The Logorrehic at January 31, 2018 09:59 PM (O+THj)
Posted by: Shopgirl: #GoodLuckAlexSmith at January 31, 2018 10:00 PM (5E/ly)
Posted by: madamemayhem(uppity wench) at January 31, 2018 10:00 PM (yTnCT)
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Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (c2m/9)
-Posted by: Hands at January 31, 2018 09:57 PM (EzdLW)
We die unencumbered.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (sZJfc)
***
There is nothing wrong with people voluntarily agreeing to give money away as this will actually end up being.
Hell I argued with many a liberal before Obamacare was passed, that if they really believed healthcare was a right that NOTHING was stopping them from ponying up their own money.
I never really got an answer to that one....
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (Z8FFX)
Posted by: Hands at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (Ckg4U)
And much as I harrumph about digital imaging, I'll say this - it attains effects that film never could. I mean - Kodachrome couldn't match that saturated blue of that sky without distorting the red of the canyon. No set of filters could keep that level of visual intensity. Close - way too close - to the actual visual impression.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (fA1SL)
No band tour this year Shopgirl but I think our end of season "band planning meeting"
this year is going to be New Orleans.
Last year was Nashville.
And by November **fingers crossed** we will have our shoestring budget, studio CD finished.
First two songs are in the can and cost $100 apiece.
November will be good timing for release because one of the tunes is "Christmas Tree on Main Street."
Goodnight all.
Love each other fellow babies
Posted by: teej at January 31, 2018 10:02 PM (l1wsb)
I had success with surgery for a couple of years, and then, I had a major sciatica flare up. Steroid injections and a year of propanolol helped. Now, I just get minor pain and some numbness in my foot. Probably nerve damage.
Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 10:02 PM (eIQHF)
It is high enough in elevation to snow once in a while. Always spectacular.
Posted by: Winston at January 31, 2018 10:02 PM (wgCUV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 31, 2018 10:02 PM (6t64L)
They're going to pass ObamaCare? I admit, I have trouble even thinking what this can mean.
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2018 10:02 PM (rdU0H)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 09:55 PM (V2Yro)
I thought Bright Angel was from the South rim and ended on the river.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2018 10:02 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: Hands at January 31, 2018 10:02 PM (EzdLW)
Horde: not feelin' it tonight: Disheartening Baby Sister Update follows.
Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (vUcdz)
So who does that leave?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 31, 2018 09:55 PM (WbIyz)
Cities have defined geographic limits. Just saying.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (FGVgC)
Posted by: MAGA at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (LnOh3)
F*ck.
(Sorry!)
Tumor progressed, as suspected. On steroids for being lethargic (moribund). Going to try two meds, carboplatin plus the avastin.Try for two months, then re-evaluate. If still progressing, hospice likely.
We're just stunned at how fast this turned around.
OTOH, she's had 8+ months of true quality life.
Not throwing in the towel (yet), but pretty disheartened.
[Horde: To my fellow Hordelings, thank you all in advance for your prayers and well-wishes for my sister and her family]
Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (vUcdz)
The crowd is hushed, absorbed in the moment.
Squinting manfully, he recaps, and, before stepping into the batters box, points with his bat down the right field line.
The sound of The Horde gasping inadvertently roils the pellucid and fecund atmosphere of the thread. Slap is calling his shot, claiming he will be First on the ONT!
Suddenly, a Nood! rang out! The Corgis madly scrambled to the new thread. A fine thread, redolent with content.
But content be damned! Would Slap have made good yet again? Would he sit atop the Thread, First among firsts?
Down the content they raced, fingers and mice scrolling feverishly.
But mighty Slap was second. And nowhere was there tipped a beer
For Slap.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (DMUuz)
Blue and Red Pill High Class Healthcare, Corp. LLC
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (5t7Yo)
-Posted by: Skandia Recluse, The Logorrehic at January 31, 2018 09:59 PM (O+THj)
"Cortana? Where did I leave the Sex-Gel?"
Out of 100 people, seven talk to their computers.
Yelling at their computers is another subject.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Gollum at January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (Vl5bQ)
Enjoy every sandwich.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (eIQHF)
Posted by: Alexa at January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (dEefA)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (ILitO)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 31, 2018 10:01 PM (WbIyz)
That's fightin' talk!
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (azcrj)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at January 31, 2018 10:05 PM (F6tBH)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:05 PM (Ckg4U)
Armstrong, Aldrin, Conrad, Bean. Past that I gots nothing.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 31, 2018 10:05 PM (WbIyz)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958747631659909122
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958747729714450434
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958747824518238209
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https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958748088042246145
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2018 10:05 PM (eh0Va)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:05 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:05 PM (NWiLs)
Never ask a question for which you do not truly want the answer.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:06 PM (NWiLs)
i've got a t-shirt idea for you.
RL e-mail addy in nick, after Pixy added bullshit.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 31, 2018 10:06 PM (qd+vn)
Bean Counters for You Doc in the Box no more.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:07 PM (5t7Yo)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958748183047352320
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958748285367353344
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958748388610265088
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958748496911269889
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/958748597171949568
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2018 10:07 PM (eh0Va)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 31, 2018 10:07 PM (6t64L)
they're both smitten with her
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 10:07 PM (c2m/9)
Posted by: jsg at January 31, 2018 10:07 PM (dKObL)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:08 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, The Logorrehic at January 31, 2018 10:08 PM (O+THj)
"I'll send you some aspirin. It should arrive in two to three business days. Sign up for Amazon Prime now and receive free thirty-minute shipping on life-saving meds for one year!"
Posted by: Hands at January 31, 2018 10:08 PM (EzdLW)
https://goo.gl/images/bVQjjw
Photography is an art, amd requires a lot of skill.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:08 PM (fA1SL)
-Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (DMUuz)
HaHaHaHaHa! Right on, Brother!
Eaten by muh ego... LOL!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:08 PM (Ckg4U)
Its rather like complaining about one president, maybe, having a consensual affair and supporting another president that got away with raping a woman...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2018 10:08 PM (Z8FFX)
I do, but mostly in very short sentences and with a pretty limited vocabulary.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 31, 2018 10:09 PM (7oUUT)
I had success with surgery for a couple of years, and then, I had a major sciatica flare up. Steroid injections and a year of propanolol helped. Now, I just get minor pain and some numbness in my foot. Probably nerve damage.
Posted by: no good deed
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I had sciatica due to bulging disks and a bone spur for about 4 months and the pain was unbearable. My MD prescribed Gabapentin for me for a short time and it calmed my sciatic nerve down to the point where I am pain free now. Still have my disk and bone spur issues but its manageable. Ask your doc if that is for you.
I was damn near suicidal when it was at its worst.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 31, 2018 10:09 PM (tr2D7)
I have had a herniated lumbar disc in my back for years but recently the discomfort has gotten worse, with pain down into my hips and thighs. No big problems with lifting things or getting around but it's become pretty uncomfortable and it's not improving.
I hate the thought of taking pain medication regularly and I'm not sure the doctors can do much.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 09:59 PM
You might consult a physical therapist. I got an exercise regime that helps a lot from one.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 31, 2018 10:09 PM (DMUuz)
ONT Greetings, Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 31, 2018 10:09 PM (QzJWU)
We're not offended. Because we're not whingeing pussies.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:09 PM (pV/54)
That's rough ibguy. Hope everything improves. If not, know that she and you are in my prayers.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 10:10 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:10 PM (5t7Yo)
-Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:08 PM (NWiLs)
You're just funnier than me. Period.
*Bows Down*
Love ya', Brother!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:10 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 31, 2018 10:10 PM (tr2D7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (6t64L)
Has Bolton slaped Juan on the back of the head yet?
Posted by: gNewt
They are in different studios.
Juan is in a different universe.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (6t64L)
No, I think that level is referred to as 'door stop.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (dnWSK)
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (azcrj)
Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (eIQHF)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (fA1SL)
lots of prayers praying prayers for you and your sister!
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 10:11 PM (c2m/9)
ONT Greetings, Horde!"
-Jim
I do not disagree.
"And 'X' gets the square."
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:12 PM (Ckg4U)
they went broke, because it never occurred to them that they should make at least enough "profit" to pay the bills and keep the doors open.
the problem with the healthcare industry is that too many people involved in it have never actually w*rked for a living, and have NO idea how to organize anything to be efficient AND compliant.
they just add cost after cost, never demand people earn their keep, and unnecessary waste from laziness or inefficiency is never punished.
then they all bitch when the place goes under or changes hands.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 31, 2018 10:12 PM (qd+vn)
You too, my friend.
It's a recycled joke, but I'm still going to milk it for all it's worth.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:13 PM (NWiLs)
Now, Belgium? Yeah.....nation of fags.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:13 PM (fA1SL)
Top photo is the Grand Canyon, South Rim I believe.
It is high enough in elevation to snow once in a while. Always spectacular.
Posted by: Winston at January 31, 2018 10:02 PM (wgCUV)
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North Rim, not south rim. Kind of an interesting place. The Nat'l forest you go through is piney woods country till you get to the canyon itself. It was like driving through the North LA hill country during prime deer season. Whitetail all over the place. It was a good 10-20 degrees cooler than the south rim. Long ass drive from the south rim but so worth it. Much quieter and less touristy than the south rim as well.
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 10:13 PM (o3+fQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 31, 2018 10:13 PM (6t64L)
Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson's rapey banana at January 31, 2018 10:14 PM (1L9V9)
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:14 PM (5t7Yo)
Posted by: IC at January 31, 2018 10:14 PM (baEAe)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:14 PM (Ckg4U)
Therefore, if it is a "right" you need infinite resources to enable people to enjoy that right in an unfettered manner.
Infinite resources are impossible so...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2018 10:14 PM (Z8FFX)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 10:14 PM (KP5rU)
I also have pictures of myself flying the length of the canyon in an F-16.
Posted by: Bill R. at January 31, 2018 10:15 PM (IuYIh)
Most of our health care spending goes to chronic care for illnesses where people never get cured. Diabetes alone will break the bank on current trajectory. Health insurers can't find a way to lower these costs as their business model is really about being a cost-plus claims processing (and denial) agency.
Since big business pays a lot of the bill, why not give them a crack at lowering it,
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:15 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:15 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: no good deed
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I hear you NGD - I would have killed someone to have relief. Nothing ever was as painful for me as my sciatica was. Thank God it is now gone.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 31, 2018 10:15 PM (tr2D7)
Can't wait to get that Amazon Prime Healthcare rolling! Ya gotta be intrigued!
I have been in mourning over Chief Wahoo...joining Chief-Noc-A-Homa, Stanford Indians, St. Joh'n Redmen and the Marquette Warriors (Peace be upon them all) as most notable skins-on-the-wall for the SJW extermination tour...
Posted by: texcat at January 31, 2018 10:15 PM (wf3RQ)
Doing my best fighting Irish...native son here. No-one biting...I'm mortally offended!
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:15 PM (azcrj)
I asked 'I'm paid up through 2/6, right?' 'Yes', they says. 'Cancel all my services on the 6th then.'
Suckers of cock.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 31, 2018 10:16 PM (WbIyz)
It's been a while since I hiked it; you're correct that the Bright Angel Trail winds down from the South Rim, but the Bright Angel Creek runs up the north side and there's a trail that follows it and ends up on the north rim - both trails meet at the bridge near Phantom Ranch.
I was thinking the north side trail was also called Bright Angel, but it's been a while and I don't have the maps anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 10:16 PM (V2Yro)
Not too long ago Harley was enjoying a renaissance with a lot of Boomers buying them. I guess we got older and the younger folks weren't buying them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:16 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2018 10:16 PM (bJ0w+)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
See if you can get an epidural injection of cortisone, which can reduced swelling and inflammation where the disk is herniated. It might help it heal.
It did for me.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at January 31, 2018 10:16 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:16 PM (fA1SL)
Good thoughts and prayers for Joyce and your family ibguy.
F*ck cancer.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:17 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 31, 2018 10:17 PM (6t64L)
A two-fer.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:17 PM (5t7Yo)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 31, 2018 10:18 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 31, 2018 10:18 PM (J/Brh)
North Rim is actually 2,000 feet higher in elevation than the the South Rim. Evidence of the action of the faultline that the Colorado River followed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 10:18 PM (V2Yro)
*sponsored by Chapstick and The Kennedy Center For Drownings*
Thanks for the ONT, Mis Hum.
There's an article at CNN Money (that I won't link) saying that a Chinese solar panel company has announced that they will build a US plant.
But remember, tariffs don't work.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 31, 2018 10:19 PM (0ogQG)
What makes you think I'm not typing? Picking on a tablet, picking fights in the best tradition of my homeland.
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:19 PM (azcrj)
makes sense that sales would go down as the Boomers age out of that range
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 10:19 PM (c2m/9)
"Many Irish-Americans are not offended, but many are. And should
that also change? The answer is yes, unequivocally yes. Pernicious,
negative stereotypes of marginalized people that offend
even some among them should be changed. It's not that hard."
Max Kellerman
Ah, Kellerman. Good Irish name. Great-grandfather born on the boat coming over from County Samaria.
Posted by: Monty James at January 31, 2018 10:20 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at January 31, 2018 10:20 PM (e9G8E)
Posted by: RM at January 31, 2018 10:20 PM (eP+dt)
So health care for employees was begun, in lieu of raises in pay.
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2018 10:20 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:21 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 10:21 PM (KP5rU)
Will likely just lurk a bit and head off to sleepy town.
Stressful couple days.
Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:21 PM (vUcdz)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
-----------
All of those accountants and dentists who fancied themselves 'bikers' when they retired. The garages out there are filled with Harleys that have only been ridden for a year or two.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 10:21 PM (c/EDo)
Was just talking to someone at FB, and came up with a name for last night (it needs a name). How about:
"Blue Retard Massacre"?
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:15 PM (pV/54)
***********
Good point.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:21 PM (5t7Yo)
Worst day, the husband had just deployed, and I had to crawl down the stairs to bring the kids to school. I made it to the car, gave the house keys to my daughter and told her to lock the front door. She stands there jiggling the lock with this puzzled look on her face. So, I tell my son to go help your sister lock the damn door. He walks up and has the same look on his face. I get out of the car, make it to the door, and the stupid lock was broken with the key stuck in it. I told the kids to get in the car, managed to get the key out of the lock, and then, I laid face down on the front walk to recover. At this point, I was laughing so hard tears were streaming down my face. Because what else can you do but laugh. I know if my neighbors saw me, they thought I was crazy. I called my mother that night and asked her to fly out to help me. Thankfully, she could. Had my first round of injections later that week and got the prescription for Gabapentin.
Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 10:22 PM (eIQHF)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:22 PM (3/sUh)
F*ck.
(Sorry!)
Tumor progressed, as suspected. On steroids for being lethargic (moribund). Going to try two meds, carboplatin plus the avastin.Try for two months, then re-evaluate. If still progressing, hospice likely.
We're just stunned at how fast this turned around.
OTOH, she's had 8+ months of true quality life.
Not throwing in the towel (yet), but pretty disheartened.
[Horde: To my fellow Hordelings, thank you all in advance for your prayers and well-wishes for my sister and her family]
-Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (vUcdz)
My prayers and many others are there for you and your Family as this insidious disease progresses.
Thank God for the people around her and Family as you transgress these tumultuous times.
Should God call her home...
I won't go there. Just know that you have an entire Universe of people behind you, so as to buoy your very soul.
Might there be light in your Faith and Hope in your heart as you find tomorrow's answer.
Prayers for everyone involved.
-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:22 PM (Ckg4U)
I have no idea what "free from profit-making incentives and constraints" is supposed to mean. If they mean organizing as a not-for-profit corporation, they still have to maintain an operating margin or the project goes broke.
The shape this endeavor will take is also unclear. If they're just going to form some type of self-funded insurance plan to provide coverage for their employees, they're walking down a well-worn path. There are already plenty of companies that do this. Having been around this industry for a pretty long time, I'm doubtful that they will come up with anything truly new or revolutionary.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:22 PM (NWiLs)
Never ask a question for which you do not truly want the answer.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:06 PM (NWiLs)
Why ask Alexa? I already know the answer for me.
It's no.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 10:22 PM (xalqz)
So I suppose I got here too late to make a Kevin Spacey joke.
By the way, that piece of crap Nasser from Michigan State U had boatloads of child porn on his computer. And when he did his "procedures" he sent the nurses out of the room.
So what the f**k was wrong with the nurses?
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 10:23 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 10:23 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:23 PM (azcrj)
Next up is how Flynn was spied on and intentionally caught in a perjury trap.
McCabe got demoted for sitting on Weiner's laptop. When they got around to looking at it, someone had to look. My bet is that once again Stzrok was the cut-out and he said "nothing to see here" when there was.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:23 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:15 PM (pV/54)
***********
Good point.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:21 PM (5t7Yo
And when they fail, they will stick their hands out for a bail out.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:23 PM (3/sUh)
An Irishmen is walking along the street, and he sees two guys slugging it out in the alley. So he walks over, taps one and politely inquires, "Excuse me, is this a private fight, or can anyone join?"
actually this blog reminds me of that a lot of the time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 10:24 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: davidt at January 31, 2018 10:25 PM (Vl5bQ)
Posted by: Bill R.
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Probably didn't stop at the gatehouse that time either. Lucky Obama didn't have it closed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 10:25 PM (5OO3x)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 10:25 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at January 31, 2018 10:26 PM (e9G8E)
199
Thank you, Slap.
And yes, I know this so, so well. It's why I was so comfortable (and comforted) posting BSU's almost from the start.
And she knows it, too: I've told her many times how so many people all over the country (and the world) are praying for her and lifting her up.
And I share things here that I don't share on Caring Bridge. It's been a tremendous outlet for me.
Thank you Morons SO much!!!
Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:26 PM (vUcdz)
My grandmother was proudly Irish and my mom has always pretty much disregarded my grandfather's German/Scandinavian background and identified as Irish.
This Kellerman guy can seriously go fuck himself.
Posted by: Cave Johnson at January 31, 2018 10:27 PM (k9Qfl)
Millennials are into bicycles and the big vrroom vroom noises scare them. Those who aren't afraid sit on rice rockets doing 120 on residential streets.
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2018 10:27 PM (eh0Va)
Posted by: Max Power at January 31, 2018 10:27 PM (llxrS)
Posted by: shep at January 31, 2018 10:28 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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They're going to be able to buy bikes cheap. I never could figure out these guys paying $15k-$20k for an FXLSMFT, or whatever...maybe a short fat wide bob.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 10:28 PM (5OO3x)
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at January 31, 2018 10:28 PM (xFZUI)
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (MTjB1)
It's no.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 10:22 PM (xalqz)
Join the club. I'm just marking time, and I'm not even that old. Sad!
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (NWiLs)
Never ask a question for which you do not truly want the answer.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:06 PM (NWiLs)
Why ask Alexa? I already know the answer for me.
It's no."
Thinkers throughout the millenia have always asked that question, and always come up with the same answer, and realized that this answer then poses the question - How must we then live?
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (V2Yro)
And when they fail, they will stick their hands out for a bail out.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
And thus was born U.S. SinglePayer
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (azcrj)
-Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 10:22 PM (eIQHF)
This is a story of Hope, Light and Perseverance.
Continued blessings, no good deed.
Might God find you, as you find Him.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (Ckg4U)
Caring Bridge has been a godsend for both Hubby and myself. At the beginning we were fielding so many calls and texts from family and friends that it was overwhelming.
I can't speak their praises nearly enough.
Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (vUcdz)
Posted by: shep at January 31, 2018 10:28 PM (4u7kU)
You want worms? Because this is how you get worms.
Posted by: Monk at January 31, 2018 10:30 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 10:25 PM (LiyEm)
++++
To answer that question, you need to find a team that doesn't reference people in any way. Nor animals, because they have feelings too. We are looking for mere things.
I think the NY Jets meets the criteria. Assuming that "Jets" in no way references any group of people, but merely the aircraft, I think we are on safe ground with that one.
As long as you can overlook how much they suck, I don't think they offend anyone.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 10:30 PM (FUu/Z)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 10:30 PM (7ThJ3)
And the operator who puts a pillow under your thighs and head then turns the switch on and off.
How much training do the require him to have?
Hou much do they pay him annually to turn that machine on and off?
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (5t7Yo)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (fA1SL)
-Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:26 PM (vUcdz)
Much love, Brother.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Dana Perrino at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (g4lFK)
Here I always thought that football players were supposed to get out there fight for it.
Sadly Notre Dame may cave in to this.
They can rename themselves "The Notre Dame Non-toxic Males"
Or "The Notre Dame Beta Males".
That should get the players riled up for the big game.
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: davidt
I had high hopes when Walmart announced they were about to enter the clinic business, but I guess that fizzled out. I don't see how those 3 companies have the necessary physical locations to make a solid go at providing low cost health care.
Walmart still does.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (0ogQG)
Posted by: Vincent Hannah at January 31, 2018 10:32 PM (Vl5bQ)
Posted by: Cave Johnson at January 31, 2018 10:27 PM (k9Qfl)
My sister did some ancestry research and found out that our grandfather came here at the age of 19 in 1914 in a way I hadn't heard of.
Ireland had a lot of young unmarried and underemployed men at that time who were prime recruitment material for the IRA. The British figured it was easier just to identify the ones who would be most prone and offer them a one way ticket to America. My grandfather and his brother had their bags packed before the ink on the tickets were dry.
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2018 10:32 PM (eh0Va)
Harleys are starting to get to be too heavy for Boomers to ride, and slowing reaction times are very unkind to motorcyclists.
Millennials are into bicycles and the big vrroom vroom noises scare
them. Those who aren't afraid sit on rice rockets doing 120 on
residential streets.
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2018 10:27 PM (eh0Va)
============
This millennial (I guess I'm one, was born in late 83) would love to get a damn Harley, if they weren't so damn expensive!
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 10:32 PM (o3+fQ)
Safeway, I think? CEO even wrote a WSJ op-ed explaining what happened.
Do not recall much. Company had some sort of reimbursement system for small costs (up to 5K or something), with incentives built in to "shop", something almost nobody does for this kind of expense (uniquely, among all the goods and services they buy their entire lives).
Above that cut-off, company had some self-insurance that was rational and actually, you know, insurance. Meaning actuarial risk was reflected in costs.
I do recall one thing. The graph showing the S and P 500 or some such, the growth of health costs on average, vs. Safeway's - the latter was basically flat. The former, well, you can imagine.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 31, 2018 10:32 PM (fZlu3)
Celebration of a man made item that contributes greatly to a global warming? Wrong, wrong, wrong, that name has to go.
Perhaps the NY Pussy Willows?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:32 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (kUwok)
Fuck Obamacare. (according to my taxes last year and being unemployed and broke for 10 mos. of it, I owe over $500)
Needless to say, Im in a pissy mood.
Hi Horde, how's it hangin?
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (FwcYV)
Robert E. Lee called NYC's 69th regiment the Fighting Irish at Gettysburg. In one origin story, the name got carried by chaplains to Notre Dame.
Posted by: Ignoramus
The Fighting 69th
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032467
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (IqV8l)
Scots-Irish (they'd probably prefer to Scotch-) : not Irish. But not as bad as Poles. Or Minnesotans. Ah hell, just about anyone.
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (azcrj)
How sad to walk through life perpetually offended and frightened of one's shadow.
He's not. It's a pose, a posture of moral superiority.
There's no real fear or offense here. It's about getting power as a victim (even though he's a victim on someone else's behalf).
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 31, 2018 09:55 PM
Portlanders hate Starbucks since it's from Seattle.
Portlanders hate Walmart, but they hate it so much they don't have one.
Portlanders hate chain restaurants like McD or BK.
Basically any store or restaurant that's not a locally owned, one-off runs afoul of the locals.
Posted by: Downcast at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (v2Njf)
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: no good deed
Don't guys pay extra for that?
And the horsey in the mix is offensive. It's exploitative of dumb animals. And no Sandra Fluke or Lena Dunham jokes.
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 10:34 PM (+lVUW)
And breathing. I keep forgetting to breath.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2018 10:34 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: BluesFish at January 31, 2018 10:34 PM (3g9Il)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 10:25 PM (5OO3x)
I believe Bush 41 was president when I did that. Fun ride though!! Better than any roller coaster I was ever on.
Posted by: Bill R. at January 31, 2018 10:34 PM (IuYIh)
Posted by: Monk at January 31, 2018 10:34 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Tom Servo
---------
Do all the good you can,
By all the means you can,
In all the ways you can,
In all the places you can,
At all the times you can,
To all the people you can,
As long as ever you can.
Posted by: John Wesley at January 31, 2018 10:35 PM (7ThJ3)
And the operator who puts a pillow under your thighs and head then turns the switch on and off.
How much training do the require him to have?
Hou much do they pay him annually to turn that machine on and off?
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:31 PM (5t7Yo)
There's more to being a rad tech than just flipping a switch.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:35 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 10:36 PM (kUwok)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:36 PM (fA1SL)
By all the means you can,
In all the ways you can,
In all the places you can,
At all the times you can,
To all the people you can,
As long as ever you can.
Posted by: John Wesley at January 31, 2018 10:35 PM (7ThJ3)
Got some knots in a gold chain I need to get out
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 10:37 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Shep at January 31, 2018 10:37 PM (Vl5bQ)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:35 PM (NWiLs)
No shit, when I blew out my knee and broke my leg in 2001 she had no f*cking clue on how to position my leg. OUCH
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:37 PM (3/sUh)
So who does that leave?
Posted by: Grump928(C)
The non-grocery store owners who don't have the brains to move outside the Portland city limits.
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 10:37 PM (+lVUW)
Portlanders hate Walmart, but they hate it so much they don't have one.
Portlanders hate chain restaurants like McD or BK.
Basically any store or restaurant that's not a locally owned, one-off runs afoul of the locals.
Posted by: Downcast at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (v2Njf)
That would leave Apple, since even the most ardent anti-capitalist Portlandia boys and girls MUST have the latest i-Phone
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2018 10:38 PM (eh0Va)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (V2Yro)
A better question is how should we then live. For those who can afford it, I would suggest debauchery marked by high-priced call girls and cocaine. For the more financially challenged, Backpage and Val-u-rite.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:38 PM (NWiLs)
I got an invitation today to come for a third interview tomorrow. I am reviewing stuff in my head and trying to pick the right necktie.
And breathing. I keep forgetting to breath.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2018 10:34 PM (2K6fY)
Knock 'em dead. Just ask any of us Morons for a recommendation.
Wait, maybe that's not the best thing...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 10:39 PM (kUwok)
Posted by: Shep at January 31, 2018 10:37 PM (Vl5bQ)
You're ripping my sock, ya know ??
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 10:39 PM (4u7kU)
Well, that's my last attempt to start a fight. Oiche mhaith, a Horde!Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:40 PM (azcrj)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:40 PM (fA1SL)
Sounds like you've been there; it's true. It's about the only place I can think of where, when I was in it I truly felt as though I was in another world, disconnected from this one. Most everyone feels that way there.
"231 that grand canyon picture is very pretty but it would really suck to be in the canyon under those circumstances."
We hiked it in a late February once, down by Horseshoe Mesa. Cloudy with snow flurries on the rim when we left the cars at 6 am. But by the time we made it to the Colorado, 8 hours, 5,000 feet of elevation, but only 12 miles away, it was 60 degrees and sunny. We could look back behind us and just 12 miles away, see the snowstorm still blowing up on the rim.
The Canyon does weird stuff like that all the time. It's almost impossible to count how many different little micro-climates it has inside it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 10:40 PM (V2Yro)
You take a breath.
You involuntarily breathe.
Listen... I'll pray for you to get that job because you're smarter than I am. I have just decided to let beer make me pedantic.
Man... I've got to either put down the sauce or lay it on the shitty people.
Y'all decide.
Sorry, amigo. Pet Peeve.
*shoos Peeve*
G'wan!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:40 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Bill R. at January 31, 2018 10:40 PM (IuYIh)
Posted by: Rex Racer at January 31, 2018 10:40 PM (D01Rc)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2018 10:38 PM (eh0Va)
Then they better get used to taking the MAX to Beaverton. 'Cause the MAX ain't going to Vancouver any time soon.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2018 10:41 PM (2K6fY)
America - fuck yeah!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:41 PM (fA1SL)
But the oldest Boomers are getting a bit too old for Harleys and I don't see younger men taking up the slack A. because of the expense and B. soy boys who couldn't even climb monkey bars at school without adult supervison are too scared to ride Harleys. Motorcycles and the open road have a mystique for many Boomers. I doubt that is true for millennials. Shit, many young kids don't even want to get their drivers license or own a car when they are 16, much less a motorcycle. That's not good news for Harley.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:41 PM (P8951)
The 69th has pride of place and leads the NYC St Patrick's day parade.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:42 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 10:29 PM (V2Yro)
How about "Why must we?"
That one goes through my head a lot.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 10:42 PM (xalqz)
My reply - "thank PDT, that's the tax cut in action. How much more?"
"$75 per pay period."
Watch the poll results in another couple of weeks as scenes like this take place everywhere. These youngsters believed the D's and the MSM who told them they weren't getting a damn thing.
Posted by: George Tirebiter at January 31, 2018 10:42 PM (/zyrl)
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 10:42 PM (+lVUW)
Perhaps the NY Pussy Willows?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:32 PM (3/sUh)
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Good catch on the global warming. Plus, I suppose, jets are kind of classist. Not everyone can afford the jet-setting lifestyle.
I think pussy willows may be problematic, though. Though the left is still consolidating the animal kingdom into their regime of the offended, how long can it be before they get to the plants?
How about the NY Clods of Dirt?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 10:43 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 31, 2018 10:43 PM (Lqy/e)
@218
Scots-Irish (they'd probably prefer to Scotch-) : not Irish. But not
as bad as Poles. Or Minnesotans. Ah hell, just about anyone.
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, moron at January 31, 2018 10:33 PM (azcrj)
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Funny thing about the Scots-Irish: Most of them came from SW Scotland, just a stones throw from N. Ireland: The area was partially settled by Celts from NE Ireland during the 1st millennium B.C. and A.D. Thats right, the Troubles are basically a family feud.
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 10:44 PM (o3+fQ)
And no one has made one smart ass comment about that number. It's as if the Horde took the night off.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:44 PM (3/sUh)
I thought some 'hood in Portlandia had driven out a Trader Joe's, before it opened. There was one in Hollywood, I think, which we used. Must have been another 'hood.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 31, 2018 10:44 PM (fZlu3)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:40 PM (fA1SL)
Heh. I think being a tired, cynical shell of a man has more to do with it at this point.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:44 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 10:43 PM (pvjTE)
Add organic and you have a winnah
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:45 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at January 31, 2018 10:45 PM (e9G8E)
Make sure she knows to check and ensure her employer isn't taking too little for taxes. She could be in for a big surprise next January.
Posted by: Bill R. at January 31, 2018 10:45 PM (IuYIh)
references any group of people, but merely the aircraft, I think we are
on safe ground with that one"
Ah, but jets use up a lot of fossil fuel and are also used by the military, so some SJW might be offended. After all, I remember when we were told the words "golf" and "Chicago" were racist.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:45 PM (P8951)
Punchline? I'm engaged to a Saigon-born angel what growed up in Oklahoma.
Went to an Indian (dot) grocery for Her Majesty. While waiting for her order I saw in the freezer a package of jalapeno samosas. I thought: is this a great country or what?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 10:45 PM (MlyVm)
They'll bury themselves. I don't even need to form a fist around those petty little strangers.
Let them curdle in their own crop.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:45 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 31, 2018 10:45 PM (p8Rx3)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 10:44 PM (3/sUh)
And that pic up there...
Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at January 31, 2018 10:46 PM (Vl5bQ)
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 31, 2018 10:46 PM (peJQi)
"$75 per pay period."
That's a great story. Maybe they will wake up to the fact that "yes, it is actually YOUR money the government takes via taxes."
Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 10:46 PM (eIQHF)
Been there before with Mr. WDS's best friend. It is scary when things take a turn so quickly.
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 31, 2018 10:46 PM (mMeIQ)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken
Let us know if she asks him what he thinks about Hillary covering for perverts on her staff. Oh, and did he ever have the pleasure of meeting democrat bundler and womens' rights supporter Harvey Weinstein?
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (+lVUW)
Shit, many young kids don't even want to get their drivers license or own a car when they are 16, much less a motorcycle. That's not good news for Harley.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop
How will they get around? Do they all live in an urban setting?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (IqV8l)
It all seems like forever ago, not just a couple of years.
I'm going back to YouTube to watch the rest. Check it out sometime. Timewarp.
Ty MisHum. It was your link that led me to stumble upon it.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (V7qBU)
That one goes through my head a lot."
-Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 10:42 PM (xalqz)
For others. "Acts".
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (Ckg4U)
our deaths belong to God. they aren't ours. please remember!
even when it's hard, as it is for me too,
let's bear one another's burdens.
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (c2m/9)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:48 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:35 PM (NWiLs)
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Well, yes. There's also getting yourself to the screened area so that you don't zap yourself. Before you flip the switch.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 10:48 PM (pvjTE)
Juan Williams on the Ingraham show now. He seems to have taken a handful of stupid pills in the previous 30 minutes
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken
You must not watch him on "The Five."
It's a continuous condition.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:48 PM (IqV8l)
How will they get around? Do they all live in an urban setting?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (IqV8l)
Parents have to drive them till they're 26.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 10:48 PM (MlyVm)
Good luck with that - try explaining to a court why sales outside of Portland should determine whether a company should be subject to the tax or not.
It also hasn't dawned on the woke progressives that the Portland IKEA can simply be spun off into a separate subsidiary. Bang - all of a sudden, the subsidiary no longer has a billion dollars of sales outside of Portland, and is no longer subject to the tax.
Posted by: The ARC of History at January 31, 2018 10:48 PM (dlwIY)
Numbers. What's your definition of 'many', "I'm sure there are at least three"?
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2018 10:49 PM (QTZZW)
Not a great set of vectors and demographics.
Posted by: RM at January 31, 2018 10:49 PM (eP+dt)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 10:49 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:35 PM (NWiLs)
**********
True, but is is necessary for a rad tech to do that rudimentary function?
IMO - X-ray compared to CT is worthless. If they reduced the cost of CT to the cost of X-Ray it would save time and money. Today one gets and xray which shows nothing - the problem persists then another appointment, a specialist, then he does a CT which shows the problem.
If CT was inexpensive the primary would shoot it first and the patient would be on his way to a solution instead of another appointment.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (5t7Yo)
Franklin is probably one of the saddest battles of that war. Gen'l Hood was out of his mind with laudanum and pain, and ordered his troops to carry out suicide charges because, in his madness, he was upset at them for something that may or may not have happened. You get the sense that rather than overruling him and sending him back for the medical treatment he needed, they decided that the war was probably over anyways and it was just as well to go out fighting. So an entire army sacrificed itself in a series of glorious charges which wiped out the entire officer corps. Still hard to grasp how they actually could have done that - intelligent, experienced men who knew exactly what was going to happen, and who did it anyways.
Although Nashville came later, it was really Franklin that decided the outcome of the War in the West.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (e9G8E)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 10:48 PM (pvjTE)
For X-rays, sure. For advanced diagnostic imaging such as CT, PET or MRI, not so much.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:51 PM (Ckg4U)
Vanity of vanities. All is vanity.
& etc.
The wisest man who ever lived didn't know why he lived - who are we, then, to be.perplexed?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:51 PM (fA1SL)
I don't want to be here.
I won't do anything to change it -- I'm too weak for that -- but I don't want to be here.
I should go. I'm in another stupid mood, and I don't know when I'll get better.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 10:52 PM (xalqz)
Middle to late 20's is the best time to take the debauchery pill if you are going to take it. With time comes less fringe benefits unfortunately.
Posted by: Monk at January 31, 2018 10:52 PM (g4lFK)
Let's not forget that folks in Portland pay a $35 a year "arts" tax too.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM
Does that entitle one to cheap museum fees?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:52 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 31, 2018 10:52 PM (kIxPI)
But people do die naturally in their sleep with pillows over their faces all the time.
Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM (rv0Fo)
I don't know one single Irish-American who's offended by that caricature. And I know plenty who make the drinking jokes.
My ex sister in law was Irish. After she went to a relative's funeral my mom asked her how the funeral was. She said, "It was an Irish wet one."
Then again, I'm German American, and I was at a funeral lunch in the parish hall where cans of beer were passed out.
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (IqV8l)
Probably expect mom and dad or the one friend who got his license to cart their asses around until college. In college - Uber. After college, well hey, maybe then they'll get one if they don't live in a city.
I don't pretend to get it. I couldn't wait to get my license. I think I was at the DMV five minutes after I turned 16.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 10:54 PM (LiyEm)
245. You'll howl. My family are half Serbian jews by way of krautland
and Holland and Brazil. The other half are Polish Jews by way of
Gdansk. Settled in Appalachia; one half kept the company store, the
other half dug coal down the pit. We went native in one generation.
Jewbillies, we are. Scots-Irish gave us many bad habits.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 10:36 PM (fA1SL
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I guess a culture based on what you are and how hard you work seemed a breath of fresh air compared to the Shetls and pogroms of the old world.
Something else you might find interesting: I remember reading an article in National Geographic in the early '00s about the situation in N. Ireland vis a vis the Troubles. The writer mooted to a local the possibility the new arrivals from other parts of the Commonwealth (Chinese were mentioned as well as Indians I think) having the effect of rendering the divide less important. The local found the idea hilarious and told him that within a generation they'd be on one side or another. I guess Celtic family squabbles are just too damn fun to stay out of!
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 10:54 PM (o3+fQ)
CT technology is innately more expensive than an X-ray and requires more sophisticated personnel to operate properly. Absent some sort of Star Trek sick bay type advancements, what you propose is unlikely to happen in the absence of government diktat.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:54 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 10:54 PM (rv0Fo)
Liberals are truly ignorant. Profit margins in retail are so low that $500,000 in gross sales can mean that a business is barely hanging on. That one percent tax will almost certainly have to be taken out of salaries of already low-paid employees.
Posted by: girldog at January 31, 2018 10:54 PM (g5YYQ)
first and the patient would be on his way to a solution instead of
another appointment.
Posted by: gNewt
Also much more radiation that may not be needed.
Posted by: Aviator at January 31, 2018 10:55 PM (2cuLk)
Talk about "The Train" somewhere else, amigo.
This is the ONT. It isn't "Conspiracy Theory Central".
Have Fun!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:56 PM (Ckg4U)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_906KlC0n5k
Posted by: illiniwek at January 31, 2018 10:56 PM (bT8Z4)
he tried every other way of finding happiness, and none worked except Relationship with God.
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 10:56 PM (c2m/9)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:56 PM (P8951)
Ha! True story, a motorcycle club was in the pub where my kids' music school was performing. They were so impressed by the kids, they donated money to the school. Not bad for a bunch of dirtbags.
Okay, I also cry when Rolling Thunder hits town. Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 10:56 PM (eIQHF)
Retard says "what?"
-What?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:51 PM (Ckg4U)
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First, get the BBCode right. Then maybe you can try the html.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 10:57 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 10:57 PM (KP5rU)
I won't do anything to change it -- I'm too weak for that -- but I don't want to be here.
I should go. I'm in another stupid mood, and I don't know when I'll get better.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 10:52 PM (xalqz)
*****
As someone who is existing but not really living, I hear ya. Good luck brother, I hope things get better for you.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 31, 2018 10:57 PM (L5iOU)
Talk about "The Train" somewhere else, amigo.
---
All I know is, I want to reach through my screen and pimp-slap the Twitter idiots who are happy that some Republicans are dead.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 10:57 PM (xalqz)
And remember, you can always HordeSource(tm) interview responses if needed.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 31, 2018 10:58 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls
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He's lucky that he's alive. At one time, he would have been shot.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 10:58 PM (7ThJ3)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:58 PM (IqV8l)
*****
The tyranny of the whine-ority.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 31, 2018 10:58 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:47 PM (IqV8l)
Probably expect mom and dad or the one friend who got his license to cart their asses around until college. In college - Uber. After college, well hey, maybe then they'll get one if they don't live in a city.
I don't pretend to get it. I couldn't wait to get my license. I think I was at the DMV five minutes after I turned 16.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM (P8951)
For whatever reason it seems to be less of a priority now.
Also, there are plenty of kids who can't afford cars, and whose parents can't afford to get them cars, so they put off getting a license since a) they can't use it anyway and b) it jacks up the parents' car insurance premiums.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (sZJfc)
-Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:56 PM (P8951)
He is resilient. He won't call me because we'll drink too much beer together.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (Ckg4U)
Apparently it's only a small subset of bikers who have a religious attachment to Harleys, and they're aging fast.
FWIW, Bob Dylan was riding a Triumph bike when he had his famous accident in 1966.
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (sdi6R)
Wow, so I'm out of line for bringing it up here? Ok........
Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (rv0Fo)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: vast cloud of lurkeers at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (fSf/G)
I suppose accusations of illegal warrants, wiretapping, etc will spur a flurry of appeals by defense attorneys who will posit that the bureau's evidence was tainted. Maybe it was. If they'll go after the CIC they'd lie about anyone to burnish their careers? Does this hurt the honest downstream investigators, maybe. Sessions, Rosenstein and Wray had a year to right the ship and didn't. Hope they all get what's coming to them.
Posted by: CN at January 31, 2018 11:00 PM (5gaNQ)
Sorry about your dad. Unbelievable how bad doctor's offices are at communicating.
How has your work going?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 31, 2018 11:00 PM (mMeIQ)
I was too. I didn't understand why my younger cousins waited for so long. They were perfectly content to bum rides with friends or just ask their parent to cart them everywhere. I was so excited to be able to drive I volunteered to go to the grocery store just to do it. My parents were thrilled. They also liked not having to cart me from practice to practice when club volleyball and school basketball overlapped.
Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 11:00 PM (eIQHF)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:00 PM (sZJfc)
He's lucky that he's alive. At one time, he would have been shot.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 10:58 PM (7ThJ3)
Rope is recyclable fragments of lead not so much.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 11:00 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 11:01 PM (KP5rU)
TJs wanted to set up a store in a historically black neighborhood, which has now gentrified to mostly white.
Black "activists" (most of whom had moved out of the neighborhood) tried to extort "contributions" to "community organizations".
TJs told them to pound sand.
Posted by: The ARC of History at January 31, 2018 11:01 PM (dlwIY)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (LiyEm)
On balance it's not very good either. But I do like coffee.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:01 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 11:01 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: vast cloud of lurkers at January 31, 2018 11:01 PM (fSf/G)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:01 PM (IqV8l)
-Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:56 PM (P8951)
He is resilient. He won't call me because we'll drink too much beer together.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (Ckg4U)
I had a major sad earlier today but doing better now. Beer Slapweasel? I'm good and I'm always good to call you.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at January 31, 2018 11:01 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 11:01 PM (LiyEm)
The decent coffee is not worth the trip. Black Rifle on line is better and a company of veteran's to boot.
Posted by: Winston at January 31, 2018 11:02 PM (wgCUV)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:02 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2018 10:56 PM (eIQHF)
*******
Oh, I know, but the lovely and long-suffering Mrs Ryoiki has actual experience with this!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at January 31, 2018 11:02 PM (e9G8E)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:02 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM (rv0Fo)
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Actually, that was part of a plot line on The Wire. Homicide cops got called out to the scene of a death. Patrol officers found the old lady in bed with a pillow over her face, so they thought homicide. Homicide cops looked and said no. Sometimes it just happens when people are in the throes of death from natural causes (e.g. heart attack) and are thrashing around. Pillow ends up on top.
This was years before Scalia, so it wasn't making a point about that.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 11:03 PM (pvjTE)
Vanity of vanities. All is vanity.
& etc.
The wisest man who ever lived didn't know why he lived - who are we, then, to be.perplexed?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
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It's as if human nature, and the state of humanity hasn't changed in thousands of years.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 11:03 PM (7ThJ3)
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:03 PM (c2m/9)
I did not stop because I stopped loving it, I just started noticing more and more as I drove how stupid people are. Kind of took the shine off the apple.
I think I would like either an Ariel Atom or a Lotus Super 7 reproduction for the same kind of feel.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:04 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 11:04 PM (LiyEm)
Massively overstated my taxable income.
Probably, in part, because it doesn't ask about
IRAs or 401Ks.
According to that site, the Trump plan is going to save me $2,300, but I don't believe a word of it.
Mind you, I think the Trump plan will probably save me a little dough, but, from what I can see, their savings projections are massively overstated.
Posted by: Lewis at January 31, 2018 11:04 PM (meI5E)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 11:04 PM (LiyEm)
-Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (rv0Fo)
Yeah... I was a bit harsh. I just reject conspiracy theories outright.
My apologies, amigo.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:04 PM (Ckg4U)
The commenters asked the doofus if he had ever heard of things called "work visas" and "green cards." Gee, people can in fact legally live here without becoming citizens!
This asshole is a sports reporter.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (P8951)
Also, there are plenty of kids who can't afford cars, and whose parents can't afford to get them cars, so they put off getting a license since a) they can't use it anyway and b) it jacks up the parents' car insurance premiums."
Social media - kids would rather stay at home and stare at a screen than socialize in person.
Mysteriously, they suffer from astonishingly high rates of depression and other psychological problems.
Posted by: The ARC of History at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (dlwIY)
Thanks, MH.
Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:03 PM (c2m/9)
The platform, I honestly do not have a problem with. It is useful to know thine enemy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (sZJfc)
I don't pretend to get it. I couldn't wait to get my license. I think I was at the DMV five minutes after I turned 16.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM
A major factor in all of this may be the $$$. Cars, upkeep rego and fuel are not what they used to be. Even if you didn't have much income, you used to be able to buy some bomb and drive it till it gave up, then buy another. For maybe $50 or $100. There wasn't the onerous safety requirements back then. As long as the bare bones basics worked you were good to go. 2nd hand shitheaps were cheap and could be maintained cheaper, or you could just not bother, coz another was probably cheaper than messing around with it. Fuel was cheaper too. Insurance? Through the roof now. Getting a licence is a major hassle these days. Back when I was young they just wanted you to show them you could do a u-turn and you were good to go. It's different now for those without much $$$.
Posted by: otho at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM (P8951)
++++
Earlier than that for me. Learner's permit at 15 1/2.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 11:07 PM (pvjTE)
The Left has a worldview that says we are all New Men, much much better than all that have come before, which is why we have nothing to learn from their old, failed ways. What we come up with on our own is Better!
Those with a conservative bent look at history and see that it pretty much looks like the same old people doing the same old shit over and over and over again. Although nowadays we do have nicer toys. On the other hand, our toys seem to be making us even stupider than before.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 11:07 PM (V2Yro)
Not possible - Powells doesn't have the billion dollars of total sales required to be subject to the tax.
This is aimed at big, large, national corporations.
Posted by: The ARC of History at January 31, 2018 11:07 PM (dlwIY)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:07 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 11:07 PM (LiyEm)
All good, man. To be fair no one was talking about it. Also I used to be the biggest anti-conspiracy theorist there was. And still think the vast majority of them, along with their followers, are 100% idiotic.
And I will leave it at that.
Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 11:07 PM (rv0Fo)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 10:53 PM (P8951)
16 years two months for me. (I failed the driving test the first time- blew a stop sign.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:08 PM (sZJfc)
the bull. it burns.
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:08 PM (c2m/9)
Thanks, MH.
Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (V+03K)
I'm a woods and water guy.
2 years ago I saw the Grand Canyon and I was just blown away. Awesome! You have to go see it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 11:08 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Shep at January 31, 2018 11:08 PM (2cuLk)
-Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (P8951)
"Professionals"
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:09 PM (Ckg4U)
So did I but my parents put their foot down when they sent me to the store a half a mile away to get a gallon of milk and I came back an hour and a half later because, hey, let's take a quick ride though the park....
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:09 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:09 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:09 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 11:10 PM (LiyEm)
So would I. And I do.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:10 PM (NWiLs)
I just listened to an update about the train crash
what if that truck was there to derail?
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (c2m/9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:02 PM (IqV8l)
Worst storm, 3/31/97 4 1/2 ft of snow. Plowed my driveway 7 times throughout the night. Almost ran out of fuel (scotch)
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (Ckg4U)
If the R's hold the House and Senate, I think that we will have full-on Leftwing terrorism, like we did in the 60's and 70's.
The one thing holding that back is the belief that the Resistance and the Blue Tsunami will take back Congress, so Trump will have to spend all of his time dealing with impeachment proceedings.
Posted by: The ARC of History at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (dlwIY)
So did I but my parents put their foot down when they sent me to the store a half a mile away to get a gallon of milk and I came back an hour and a half later because, hey, let's take a quick ride though the park....
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop
You were burning up that expensive gas.
How much was it back then?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (IqV8l)
Not a conspiracy. End of story.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2018 11:12 PM (V2Yro)
Made sense to me and helped to get me sorted out and moving away from the Abyss. YMMV
Posted by: Monk at January 31, 2018 11:12 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: the vonce
*?*
What is Mid Winter Day? I mean, the solstice done come and gone.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 11:12 PM (5OO3x)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:09 PM (sZJfc
About once a year I think about getting a motorcycle. Then I hear of some one hitting a deer with one or getting hit by some negligent vehicle operator.
I continue to ride my ATV out in the boonies
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 11:12 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 11:12 PM (LiyEm)
Social media - kids would rather stay at home and stare at a screen than socialize in person.
Even when they go out they stare at a screen.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:12 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 11:13 PM (KP5rU)
Beautiful country but the bagels suck
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 11:13 PM (4u7kU)
Each step along the way of any medical condition (in the diagnostic phase) is a filtering process. Of a given number of patients with a given constellation of symptoms, some will have a straightforward, self-limiting condition, some will have an easily diagnosed condition, some will have a zebra (a rare condition). A talented physician can begin to distinguish by taking a good patient history and performing a targeted examination. This starts the filtering process. Some patients don't need diagnostic tests, others should have initial screening tests. Sometimes the initial screening tests don't answer the question and more sophisticated (and more expensive tests) or more sophisticated specialist consultations are needed. The progressive filtering at each stage is what practicing medicine should be about.
Unfortunately, today, many patients want the latest greatest test, and all too many doctors are willing to oblige. Spending ratchets ever upward.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 31, 2018 11:13 PM (wPiJc)
How much was it back then?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (IqV8l)
Can't remember exactly. Less than a buck a gallon.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:13 PM (P8951)
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2018 11:14 PM (sdi6R)
It is a common trope in Science Fiction, and other works, for dystopian governments to enforce their power by forcibly drugging a populous to make it more docile and mailable.
http://politicalhat.com/?p=14379
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2018 11:14 PM (itfg0)
How much was it back then?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:11 PM (IqV8l)
You don't ask a lady her age.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 11:14 PM (3/sUh)
A Starting Pitcher for an Outfielder.
The Brewers were "going hard" after Yu Darvish, but that isn't withing their Price Range, really.
If they don't get Lance Lynn, I'd be surprised.
Hell, their #2 won't be back until June after T.J. Surgery.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:15 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2018 11:15 PM (Ge1L3)
Posted by: otho at January 31, 2018 11:05 PM (qGuLD)
Car insurance is obscenely expensive, especially for a teenager.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:15 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:09 PM (sZJfc)
Me too. I went through there in 87 on the Going to the Sun Highway. I was TDY to Great Falls and a buddy and I decided to go see it. I'm glad I did. At the end of the TDY I went through Yellowstone on my way back to Phoenix. It was the year before the big fire in 88.
Posted by: Bill R. at January 31, 2018 11:16 PM (IuYIh)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:16 PM (IqV8l)
I've spent the balance of the last decade in service of others in a not for profit. I can't say I regret a day of it...but I can't afford to do it any more now.
But every time in my life I've tried to kick start a way forward for myself...it seems to come crashing down.
I understand God giving me a hint, but is it too much to ask that I be able to have a decent life for myself as well?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 31, 2018 11:16 PM (lLeln)
Posted by: Monk at January 31, 2018 11:12 PM (g4lFK)
Pretty good.
Follows this:
https://tinyurl.com/y823dto8
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:17 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at January 31, 2018 11:17 PM (e9G8E)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:17 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: The epsilons... at January 31, 2018 11:17 PM (AoK0a)
What an excellent explanation. You must be one o' them thar doctors or some such.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:17 PM (NWiLs)
I know. I'm trying to keep the "ruckus" to a minimum.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (Ckg4U)
Carry On!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2lAoXsJ-tE
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:07 PM (Ckg4U)
Love it! Thanks.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (qd+vn)
First thing, new ones are pricey, and used ones not so much. The gap from new to used is pretty big. You can get a really nice low mileage well kept EVO engine softail for 6K, and not much more for a twin cam engine. Personally, I would go EVO, those motors are amazing. Most of the die hard riders buy up the used ones because they know the deal, so not many of them are buying new ones. personally, you couldn't give me a new one. They are saddled up with too much extra bullshit that just isn't needed, but that's the new breed of rider's doing, because they are retards and need all the safety shit.
Harley stopped making the FXR class of bikes. Real stupid, they have no medium class of bikes now. You either get a sportster that a new rider with any brains will out grow in less than a month, so between sportster and softail there is nothing, and other companies are filling that gap.
The new Harley engine has a problems, because the stuborn fucks don't seem to consult dudes out in the field who know wtf is going on. I predicted problems the first time I saw the cutaway view of that new motor, and sure enough it has the problems me and other Harley builders predicted. Years back when they came out with the twin cam me and others saw THAT motor and predicted problems, and we were right back then too.
I go on and on, but Harley fucked up. They shot themselves in the foot bad.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (DfdNc)
[Horde: To my fellow Hordelings, thank you all in advance for your prayers and well-wishes for my sister and her family]
Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (vUcdz)
I hope the new treatment does good.
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (itfg0)
Rad tech: If the cost of the CT machine was reduced and the liability cost reduced that rad tech could be supervising four techies operating four machines.
------
I'll take the radiation. For my knee; first it was a series of x-rays at my primary then on to the orthopedic -another appointment, another day, more time, more pain, and another set of x-rays - his way- then finally one, count 'em (1) CT scan.
Welp, there it is, your knee is tore up. "No shit."
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (5t7Yo)
said the fucker who betrayed his country, went to prison, and wrecked his body with hormones. Rock bottom means people stopped paying attention to him.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 11:19 PM (KP5rU)
A Drugged And Docile Populace: A Sci-Fi Dystopia; A Woke Utopia
It is a common trope in Science Fiction, and other works, for dystopian governments to enforce their power by forcibly drugging a populous to make it more docile and mailable.
http://politicalhat.com/?p=14379
Posted by: The Political Hat
Sometimes it isn't necessary
https://biblioklept.org/2010/12/14/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webcomic/
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:19 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Joe Manchin, Boy Senator at January 31, 2018 11:19 PM (qYCgM)
Posted by: vast cloud of lurkers at January 31, 2018 11:19 PM (fSf/G)
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:19 PM (c2m/9)
Vanity of vanities. All is vanity.
*****
Funny you mention that. I just re-read Ecclesiastes last week. Resonated in context with my work situation. Helped me to refocus on who I work for and why. Ecclesiastes rocks.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 31, 2018 11:19 PM (wPiJc)
You don't ask a lady her age.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
It was a trick question.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:17 PM (IqV8
It was about .25/gallon, smokes were .40/pack and a case of returnable PBRs was around $5.00
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 11:19 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 11:20 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 31, 2018 11:20 PM (qd+vn)
Posted by: Abby at January 31, 2018 11:20 PM (tppae)
When I was young and dumb I rode everywhere without my helmet unless I had to wear it. Now at age 58, I am aware of my mortality and wear it always. I see the idiots on the road but for me it is like a therapy dog, or peacock, if you will.
I always ride sober and stay aware of my surroundings. I pray nothing will happen but I'm willing to take the chance for my own sanity.
Posted by: Bill R. at January 31, 2018 11:20 PM (IuYIh)
said the fucker who betrayed his country, went to prison, and wrecked his body with hormones. Rock bottom means people stopped paying attention to him.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (rnAwa)
I was thinking a millstone tied to the neck and thrown to the bottom of the sea. That would be rock bottom.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 11:21 PM (3/sUh)
-Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:15 PM (NWiLs)
Mine was $40/Mo when I was 16 in '87.
Never wrecked a car, ever.
...and I was Fucked-Up Drunk at times.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:21 PM (Ckg4U)
Probably just coincidence that we've driven that up and forced you to subsidize public/homeless transit for us.
Posted by: Dems at January 31, 2018 11:21 PM (QTZZW)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 31, 2018 11:16 PM (lLeln)
Some he blesses, some he overlooks, some he kicks the shit out of. Luck of the draw I guess.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:21 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Vasily at January 31, 2018 11:22 PM (sZJfc)
My Dad had just bought a huge new Buick LeSabre and we were going to do our annual summer road trip as a family. I had just turned 16 and ready to get my license. I was going to do a lot of the driving on the trip and was beside myself.
Trouble was, the Buick was so big I failed the parallel parking test and that was that. Funny now, but I still remember the disappointment.
Posted by: RM at January 31, 2018 11:22 PM (eP+dt)
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 10:50 PM (5t7Yo)
CT scans use much more radiation than X-rays are not needed for many things.
If my MD suggests a CT I will absolutely ask if X-ray can be used instead.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2018 11:22 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: Bill R. at January 31, 2018 11:20 PM (IuYIh
I hear you. One of the main reasons I 4 wheel every other weekend April-November
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 11:22 PM (3/sUh)
Imagine what it will cost tomorrow if you drive a garbage truck.
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2018 11:22 PM (QTZZW)
Posted by: Plan Bronze from Outer Space at January 31, 2018 11:23 PM (qYCgM)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 11:23 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Vasily at January 31, 2018 11:23 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 31, 2018 11:23 PM (wPiJc)
So I didn't get it but my siblings, who are in the same situation, berated me because they're so paranoid about cancer they get tested every year. I dunno, I'd hate to be in the situation my mom was in - she thought she had a bad cold, and it wouldn't go away and her doctor gave her cough medicine without taking an X-ray - and by the time she was finally diagnosed it was terminal.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:24 PM (P8951)
Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 11:24 PM (rv0Fo)
It comes largely from being a more complex and therefore more expensive piece of machinery to produce in the first place.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:24 PM (NWiLs)
-Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2018 11:22 PM (QTZZW)
*HAH!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:24 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 11:24 PM (rv0Fo)
Didn't he speak about the train disaster today on TV?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:25 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 31, 2018 11:13 PM (wPiJc)
*******
Maybe different states have different protocols.
I've had the same primary for seventeen years, he knows me. By our conversation he knew my problem was cartilage however, protocol dictated the x-rays.
I think a lot of modern protocol takes the decision away from the physician.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 11:25 PM (5t7Yo)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:25 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2018 11:25 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop
How will they get around? Do they all live in an urban setting?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Are these the same kiddos who are happy to live with their parents?
Young people used to WANT to be independent. Some now, not all, seem happy to be perpetual children.
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 11:25 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:25 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: vast cloud of lurkers at January 31, 2018 11:26 PM (fSf/G)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:15 PM
Indeed it is. Getting a car and a licence is a major investment now, compared to when I was young. I don't think I even had to have insurance, as a teenager. Jalopies were cheap, requirements for obtaining a licence were lenient, fuel was cheap and getting a slip for the bomb amounted to being asked to demonstrate that the brake lights worked. These days? Forge about it unless you got some real $$$. It was a different world back then.
Posted by: otho at January 31, 2018 11:26 PM (qGuLD)
The 69th has pride of place and leads the NYC St Patrick's day parade.
and he ended up Governor of Montana
Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at January 31, 2018 11:27 PM (CL76w)
*****
Can't speak to your particular situation, but that word 'necessary' is the single most misunderstood word in the practice of medicine.
Many people who say "I 'need' a Sooperdooperogram" cannot for the life of them explain WHY the need a Sooperdooperogram. What they mean is they WANT a Sooperdooperogram
Posted by: Muldoon at January 31, 2018 11:27 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:27 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at January 31, 2018 11:28 PM (CL76w)
[Horde: To my fellow Hordelings, thank you all in advance for your prayers and well-wishes for my sister and her family]
Posted by: ibguy at January 31, 2018 10:03 PM (vUcdz)
I hope the new treatment does good.
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2018 11:18 PM (itfg0)
Not quite sure what's happening but I will pray for you.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at January 31, 2018 11:28 PM (nBr1j)
-Posted by: Muldoon at January 31, 2018 11:27 PM (wPiJc)
The Power of Suggestion...
Now I want one of those.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:29 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: 444 at January 31, 2018 11:24 PM (rv0Fo)
Trump looks at tweeting like a kid rides a skateboard. And at the moment, he's going downhill
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 11:30 PM (4u7kU)
Endeavor to persevere.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 31, 2018 11:30 PM (wPiJc)
I'm getting a Sooperdooperogram, even if it involves the but.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:30 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Mr. Ed-bot at January 31, 2018 11:30 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: BoyNSea at January 31, 2018 11:30 PM (Kh5Q4)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:15 PM (Ckg4U)
Hell, Jimmy Nelson was our ace last year, was absolutely fantastic - and then ripped up his right shoulder sliding into base. (Pitchers, do not do that!!)
It will be an interesting season all right - Lorenzo Cain and Yellich in the OT. You're right, I doubt there's enough money for Darvish. I hadn't heard about Lance Lynn.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:31 PM (P8951)
Why does it have to be this hard all the time?
and why has it always been this hard?
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:31 PM (c2m/9)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:31 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
----------
There was nothing quite like a swaying Oldsmobile station wagon coming around a curve, with a 'Prepare to Meet God' front plate.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 11:31 PM (y3sT9)
i say thing out loud to God here in my little house that I really shouldn't say. such as,
Why does it have to be this hard all the time?
and why has it always been this hard?
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:31 PM (c2m/9)
I say that alot. And then I think of what others are going though, and I realize I have it good."Take up your cross and follow me." He didn't say it was going to be easy.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:33 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel
They got their comeuppance. And last night they seemed to have the sadz. I really enjoyed watching those arrogant, smug bastards last night.
As I've said before, I've gone from disliking liberals to actively hating them.
And Trump's approval ratings went up, because people got to listen to him for themselves, rather than seeing him through the filter of media "professionals".
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 31, 2018 11:33 PM (+lVUW)
Car insurance is obscenely expensive, especially for a teenager.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:15 PM
Indeed it is. Getting a car and a licence is a major investment now,
compared to when I was young. I don't think I even had to have
insurance, as a teenager. Jalopies were cheap, requirements for
obtaining a licence were lenient, fuel was cheap and getting a slip for
the bomb amounted to being asked to demonstrate that the brake lights
worked. These days? Forge about it unless you got some real $$$. It was a
different world back then.
Posted by: otho at January 31, 2018 11:26 PM (qGuLD)
============
Don't underestimate the effect of "Cash for Clunkers" Wiped out a lot of decent used cars for a younger driver.
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:33 PM (o3+fQ)
Why does it have to be this hard all the time?
and why has it always been this hard?
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:31 PM (c2m/9)
I would if I were the only one here, but I'm not, so I just ask quietly.
It's been years. No answer.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 11:33 PM (xalqz)
It comes largely from being a more complex and therefore more expensive piece of machinery to produce in the first place.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:24 PM (NWiLs)
Beating on this horse a little more:
A three/four hundred dollar computer today will run circles around a two thousand dollar computer from
the year 2000. Those same advances and economics could have been applied to CT machines but were not.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 11:34 PM (5t7Yo)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:34 PM (IqV8l)
"my yoke is easy, and my burden is light"
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:35 PM (c2m/9)
Hell, in the mid sixties, I was driving around in a east TX farming community for a couple years before I realized that there was such a thing as a DL
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 11:35 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 11:35 PM (5OO3x)
-Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 11:34 PM (IqV8l)
*runs in circles*
I'ma get one!
*runs in circles*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:36 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 11:23 PM (KP5rU)
Yup, those EVO softails are a thing of beauty, they can be built to make huge power, they ride really nice and are reliable. I take them apart with 50K on them and they look new inside IF the owner was good with them and did regular services. The VAST amount of a Harley's problems are directly related to their owners, because they do stupid shit. You can get a really nice low mileage EVO softail for 6K if you look, and you can make one hell of a nice custom ride out of it, OR do nothing to it and still have a nice bike. I had a dude a few months ago come in with a 2007 twin cam softail he grabbed for $3500. It had one real small dent in the gas tank, and the rest was mint. They are practically giving the used ones away.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 31, 2018 11:36 PM (DfdNc)
Posted by: otho at January 31, 2018 11:26 PM (qGuLD)
++++
As my parents would have been liable under the law for any damage I did, insurance was mandatory in my case.
The state didn't require proof of insurance back then, but I think it has been the case since forever that the law required you to be financially responsible. They just didn't come after you until you did some damage you couldn't pay for. Then you got hit for violating the law.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 31, 2018 11:36 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:33 PM (o3+fQ)
Even an economy sedan with over 100k miles will set you back 5 or 6 thousand dollars. Didn't used to be that way.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:38 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2018 09:59 PM (FGVgC)
OH, they can do much, if you're willing and able to go under the knife... after more conservative measures fail, of course. Speaking from experience, 2X.
Posted by: Average Guy at January 31, 2018 11:38 PM (LMcFk)
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 31, 2018 11:38 PM (prxs+)
I don't ask Him for Nouns.
I ask Him for practice to achieve peace.
...an even keel, as it were.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:39 PM (Ckg4U)
"Indeed it is. Getting a car and a licence is a major investment now,
compared to when I was young."
I guess that is one thing we should bear in mind about the millenials. So many of them seem so immature because their elders made it harder for them to grow up. Couldn't buy a car, couldn't roam around on their bikes all day long because helicopter parents, were constantly under adult supervision and were indoctrinated and taught to think of themselves as victims. No wonder so many of them are f'ed up.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:40 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:33 PM
Exactly.
Posted by: otho at January 31, 2018 11:40 PM (qGuLD)
I haven't done that myself, but that's what I've read.
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2018 11:41 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:42 PM (fA1SL)
Why does it have to be this hard all the time?
and why has it always been this hard?
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:31 PM (c2m/9)
I ask in far more pointed terms these days. There's no answer. He went out for smokes and didn't come back.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:42 PM (NWiLs)
Anyone with a loved one who has cancer might want to check it out. Here is the link.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-01-cancer-vaccine-tumors-mice.html
Posted by: girldog at January 31, 2018 11:43 PM (g5YYQ)
Muscles hurt and I smell like Satan's Asshole.
TMI?
I thought this was Ace of Spades HQ.
*flips switch*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 31, 2018 11:43 PM (Ckg4U)
Yes. It's been 38 years since I was meditating on that passage, and God converted me. It's been from darkness to light.
For our light affliction, which is for the moment, worketh for us more and more exceedingly an eternal weight of glory; (2 Cor. 4:17 ASV)
Posted by: vast cloud of lurkers at January 31, 2018 11:43 PM (fSf/G)
Once was driving at night going back up to Bloomington and all of the interior lights just went out. They came back on after about 15 mins and never had the issue again.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:43 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2018 11:44 PM (KP5rU)
When I go out to events, I am amazed at the lovely couple which will arrive, be seated, then stare at their own iphones, scarcely looking up to each other or anything else.
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2018 11:44 PM (w7KSn)
When I go out to events, I am amazed at the lovely couple which will arrive, be seated, then stare at their own iphones, scarcely looking up to each other or anything else.
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2018 11:44 PM (w7KSn)
How to be alone in a crowd. Then they complain that they cannot connect with anyone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:45 PM (sZJfc)
(None of you guys are gross, even at your most hilarious. you sure made it dusty at my house tonight though, when I saw your prayers on the other thread)
son turned up on the porch a little over an hour ago, having walked from rehab two counties away in the cold--he had just checked in this morning, after a relapse got him kicked out of a relative's house--turned only 22 this weekend--and then checked himself right back out
he didn't hurt himself, he wasn't drunk or stoned.
what he has been for a long time is sad--he struggles with substance and depression, and has had episodes of self-harm when the two converge, and then anger, which got him kicked out of here last year after getting in a drunken fistfight with my husband, in a deep depression over the death of his cousin--I called the cops that time.
He's asleep on the living room couch, the dog is ecstatic to see him, and tomorrow we discuss the fact that if he expects to get another chance, he stays sober and gets ongoing therapy/counseling/treatment.
so on that note, thank you all again for your prayers, I truly believe they were heard, because according to his girlfriend, he started texting her again about an hour after I asked you guys for your help.
two counties worth of cops were looking for him, but he ghosted on in here on his own.
I would be honored to have him added to the ongoing list, because as someone (Fenelon spoke?) asked, God hold him until he makes better decisions.
Thank you all, so much
Posted by: barbarausa at January 31, 2018 11:45 PM (ru28e)
Don't laugh, but this is part of the answer.
bear one another's burdens. we do that here. amongst other things, right?
(the hardest part of Job's trial was the silence of God. he was used to hearing from him. then God went silent on him. to me, that is a nod to us, to give us props for what we go through in this time of the world)
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:45 PM (c2m/9)
Until he fell off a steamer on the Missouri river and disappeared.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 31, 2018 11:45 PM (KxxpQ)
There's no cure. The truth is, there's not even an illness. There's just this. * gestures widely * Make of it what you can.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:45 PM (fA1SL)
507. The generation behind them show early signs of being nothing less
than viciously anti-establishment and decidedly hard-core. The pendulum,
it swings.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:42 PM (fA1SL)
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Sometimes I feel as if I was born in the wrong generation. I'm more of a Gen X or Z type. My generation is a collection of brain dead morons, with some exceptions...
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:45 PM (o3+fQ)
Especially the pre '94 models. That's when the set the bike on lower suspension because "shorter riders", lost some vital cornering clearance and started the decline of the line.
The GL-1800s have the power, have great handling, but at 5'10", I feel like there's just not enough room between seat, pegs and handlebars. I can but imagine how cramped the 6 footers and taller, feel.
Yet, the 1800s also saw just a wee bit less cubic volume in the saddlebags, a trend carried to the all new 2018 Gold Wing.
The new one is a technological marvel. No more telescopic forks. Think of something akin to BMW's "Telelever" front end, but different. It works though, and that very well per all early reports.
But again, smaller fairing. MUCH SMALLER stowage, in both bags and tail trunk.
Worse? The passenger Barcalounger is gone, replaced by a flat plank of something less worthy than what should be called a "seat" on a Luxury Touring Bike. That rear "seat" belongs on the ST-1300 Sport Tourer. A 'Wing needs....no...DESERVES better. As does a 'Wing's passenger.
The all new 1800 cc engine? Tiny bit more horsepower and torque. The big win is the manual gearbox..(6 or 7 gears, I forget). Point is though, much lower cruising RPMs at speed. And, an automatic tranny is an option, too. Yes, really.
So, the new 'Wing is closer to a Sport Tourer than a Luxury Tourer. That's a bad call by Honda. Almost ALL of the new 'Wing's LUXURY nature, is now provided in the form of a very advanced electronics & entertainment suite.
Most of which, I could do quite well without.
Having amassed a logbook of 39 U.S. States and well over 300k SOLO motorcycle miles*, I think just might have an opinion as to what works on the ROAD.
*mostly Gold Wing miles, but lots on others in my younger years. did buy my first 'Wing though, when I was but 22 years old. '82 Interstate, bought off of a cop friend in '83.
First thing I do when listening / observing a crowd of motorcyclists... I'll walk around the bikes, and look at the odometers.
That tells you so very much about their "riders"....or, their poseurs, either way.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 31, 2018 11:46 PM (QzJWU)
I say that alot. And then I think of what others are going though, and I realize I have it good."Take up your cross and follow me." He didn't say it was going to be easy.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V
--------------------
No promise of smooth sailing, just a safe landing.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 11:46 PM (cp1if)
I haven't done that myself, but that's what I've read.
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2018 11:41 PM (sdi6R)
I don't know about that but charges are lower in Japan. They also have government-subsidized universal health insurance, government-controlled pricing and significant supply/overutilization problems.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:46 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: RM at January 31, 2018 11:48 PM (eP+dt)
Oxford House in the area? it's worked for thousands of people.
Posted by: booknlass at January 31, 2018 11:49 PM (c2m/9)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:49 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:45 PM (sZJfc)
Some people, like myself, are alone in a crowd even without being glued to an iPhone.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:50 PM (NWiLs)
509 I've read that CT scans are a hell of a lot cheaper in Japan than
they are in the US. As in, if you don't have insurance, it's literally
cheaper to fly there, stay in a hotel, pay cash for the CT scan, then
fly back.
I haven't done that myself, but that's what I've read.
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2018 11:41 PM (sdi6R)
I don't know about that but charges are lower in Japan. They also
have government-subsidized universal health insurance,
government-controlled pricing and significant supply/overutilization
problems.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:46 PM (NWiLs)
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There's no link between supply and demand. No one knows what the fair market value of, say, a CT scan is...
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:50 PM (o3+fQ)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
I can't tell you the amount of bikes I built over the last few years just to see them come back as wrecks. I just did one about 6 months ago for a kid who did a tour in Iraq. Because he was a vet we gave him a killer deal. He bought an old shovelhead from some lying piece of shit who said it had a new engine, and it was nothing of the sort, it was a ruin. I did the whole engine over, corrected a ton of shit, and we charged him for parts only. The kid was so blown away by what we did. 2 months later he got hit and spent a week in the hospital. He said he couldn't believe it, he did a tour in Iraq and came home without a scratch, and then gets wrecked on his dream bike. 2-3 months before that I almost got hit head on while test riding a bike because some asshole was driving in the wrong lane like he owned it. Last year a texting chick ass ended a friend of mine at a light
I went back to owning a muscle car because I don't trust these assholes on the road anymore. I want steel around me.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (DfdNc)
the year 2000. Those same advances and economics could have been applied to CT machines but were not.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 11:34 PM (5t7Yo)
Not everything scales like computer processing capability.
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (itfg0)
There's no cure. The truth is, there's not even an illness. There's just this. * gestures widely * Make of it what you can.
I tried. I've failed.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (xalqz)
There are a bunch of videos out there, this one is not very explanatory, but interesting:
http://tinyurl.com/y8fo4r27
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (FJXGr)
Prayers up, your son sounds like someone i know, he turned out OK.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2018 11:52 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:50 PM (o3+fQ)
That's true. We have that same issue here to a degree because we have a handful of large insurance companies and the government interposed between the seller and the consumer. They dictate pricing, not the actual marketplace.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:54 PM (NWiLs)
523. Ya don't wanna be Gen X. To quote Dante from Clerks, 'I'm not even supposed to be here,' which is our motto and truth.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:49 PM (fA1SL)
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Hmpf. Pretty much describes my situation. I was supposed to be in a residency a couple of years ago, not back living with my parents hoping something happens this time around. If you've gone on a premed track and to med school, you're pretty much boned with worthless degrees and debt out the ass.
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:54 PM (o3+fQ)
I've been there - wet towel wrapped around my head, teeth touching the barrel, round in the chamber, hammer back & safety off. And yet, here I am. It's not ever going to be easy. But a living failure beats a dead failure by any and every measure. Captain, if you want, we can speak privately.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:56 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at January 31, 2018 11:56 PM (0OmEj)
There's no link between supply and demand. No one knows what the fair market value of, say, a CT scan is...
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:50 PM (o3+fQ)
That's true. We have that same issue here to a degree because we
have a handful of large insurance companies and the government
interposed between the seller and the consumer. They dictate pricing,
not the actual marketplace.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:54 PM (NWiLs
============
If market pressures actually exerted a force in medicine, I think the fair market value of a lot of things would be surprisingly affordable. MRIs would still cost an arm and a leg though. Superconducting magnets are expensive and Liquid Helium doesn't condense itself!
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:57 PM (o3+fQ)
May I ask why you didn't go on to do a residency? I don't mean to pry...
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:57 PM (P8951)
Posted by: RM at January 31, 2018 11:48 PM (eP+dt)
I used to drive one of granddads large stake bed trucks , full of melons from the farm in Yantis to the Dallas farmers market. I started when I was 14. But I was a pretty big kid. Stateys would eyeball me once in a while but it was 1965, nobody gave a rats ass. The good old days
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 11:57 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:24 PM (P8951)
Maybe try that private company full body scan? I did it and it gave me great peace of mind - only took an hour of my time and cost a few hundred bucks (paid from my HSA).
Posted by: LASue at January 31, 2018 11:58 PM (BZA5F)
the year 2000. Those same advances and economics could have been applied to CT machines but were not.
Posted by: gNewt at January 31, 2018 11:34 PM (5t7Yo)
Not everything scales like computer processing capability.
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (itfg0)
So how does a CT rig compare to a LASIK suite, in terms of cost and complexity? That might be a useful yardstick.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 31, 2018 11:59 PM (di1hb)
http://tinyurl.com/y8fo4r27
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (FJXGr)
Interesting. I keep thinking of a quote: "The more complex they make the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
Still. Kind of cool.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 31, 2018 11:59 PM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:57 PM (o3+fQ)
Well, yeah. The capital expense for a magnet is always going to be high.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 11:59 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: the vonce
********************
Look right, do right, be right.
Posted by: gNewt at February 01, 2018 12:00 AM (5t7Yo)
I've been there - wet towel wrapped around my head, teeth touching the barrel, round in the chamber, hammer back & safety off. And yet, here I am. It's not ever going to be easy. But a living failure beats a dead failure by any and every measure. Captain, if you want, we can speak privately.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:56 PM (fA1SL)
That is about the most chilling and uplifting thing I've ever heard. I will remember your words.
Posted by: LASue at February 01, 2018 12:01 AM (BZA5F)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2018 12:01 AM (c/EDo)
Posted by: the vonce
********************
Look right, do right, be right.
Posted by: gNewt at February 01, 2018 12:00 AM (5t7Yo)
Won't save you when cops are short on their ticket quotas at the ends of the month.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:01 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 01, 2018 12:02 AM (fA1SL)
534. Keep trying. You'll be dead far longer than you'll be alive. This is a truth that kept me through many a long night.
I've been there - wet towel wrapped around my head, teeth touching
the barrel, round in the chamber, hammer back safety off. And yet,
here I am. It's not ever going to be easy. But a living failure beats a
dead failure by any and every measure. Captain, if you want, we can
speak privately.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at January 31, 2018 11:56 PM (fA1SL)
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Ah, so we have something in common. Was there many a time in middle school and the beginning of high school. Going from the suburbs to a small town starting in 7th grade was traumatic, and I did stick a .410 in my mouth a few times. Kids in that town were dicks. The parents discreetly moved the guns out of my room when they realized I was pretty damn depressed...I'll keep trying, if only because I have no other option...
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:02 AM (o3+fQ)
parallel parking test and that was that. Funny now, but I still remember
the disappointment.
Posted by: RM at January 31, 2018 11:22 PM (eP+dt)
Oh I remember being so worried about the parallel parking part of the test. I learned to drive in a big old station wagon and the parking was the hardest part. Then on the day of my test, my Dad let me take his Ford Pinto. It was easy peasy after practicing in the wagon.
Posted by: cfo mom at February 01, 2018 12:03 AM (RfzVr)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at February 01, 2018 12:03 AM (P8951)
I tried. I've failed.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (xalqz)
Yeah, me too. And I've also had a few huge success mixed in with the failures. Some of those successes lasted a good long while, too.
That said? I've got to DO things, EXPERIENCE things, and LIVE things, that really, damned few people in this world ever even get to THINK about, much less DO.
I have, as they say, "lived an interesting life." Part of if Gold Plated Fortune 1000 Executive Resume. Other parts of it cop, construction worker, laborer.
Made a good living in sales. Got hurt in roofing sales, so down off the ladder with me, now.
So, I drive passengers to/from hotels/ships/airports... enough to keep me from starving, and will leverage it to catapault me into a Class B CDL w/ necessary endorsements...
I can then drive tourist tour buses till they drag my ancient ass out from behind the wheel.
That's a job where I can make enough to eat, but still lay my head down on my own pillow every night.
I'll have to work till I die. I know this.
But I WILL NOT be "unhappy" while doing this.
Making it by my wits and my skills, is all I've ever known. I do it well. I wear it well.
Yeah, the struggle, that part, sucks. So, I buy one or two lotto tickets per year. That's enough to buoy my hopes, at least.
Point is, my life is satisfying because I make it so. Not because of what I have. 'Cause mostly, I have tools. And skills. And abilities.
I can then, at least entertain myself, and make a bit of spare change from fixing stuff for those who can't.
Bonus? I get invited to stuff like Ben Hand's Texas MoMeet, and get to shoot with Morons and 'Ettes.
Life is GOOD!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2018 12:03 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:04 AM (NWiLs)
So how does a CT rig compare to a LASIK suite, in terms of cost and complexity? That might be a useful yardstick.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 31, 2018 11:59 PM (di1hb)
That sounds like a very good question.
Posted by: rickl at February 01, 2018 12:04 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: the vonce at January 31, 2018 11:57 PM (4u7kU)
1965 Yantis...that's about 15 years prior to Fork! Can't imagine how country it was then- hell it's only 300 or so population now! One of my absolute favorite places to be in TX! Lost one of my best friends that lived around there about a year ago.
Posted by: texcat at February 01, 2018 12:05 AM (wf3RQ)
He has thought of Oxford, and that may be something we can urge him toward.
My brother was much the same, cracked up a lot of cars in his youth but survived them all, and he is fine and has been for a long time
the cousin who died was in recovery, and fell off the wagon. fell down his basement stairs in the middle of the night drunk, and nobody found him until he was past reviving.
Son had lived with them, and was doing well there. the reaction to the sudden death at Christmas earned him a stay in the hospital with is hair burned off and his arms cut up.
I have been afraid of a relapse, as we just went through first anniversary of losing nephew, and son is having a lot of other anniversaries of the events that followed for him.
Posted by: barbarausa at February 01, 2018 12:05 AM (ru28e)
Posted by: RM at February 01, 2018 12:06 AM (eP+dt)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (itfg0)
No industry advances by leaps and bounds, unless it has escaped the notice of Washington for the first decade or two.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 01, 2018 12:08 AM (rnAwa)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 01, 2018 12:09 AM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Jackal at January 31, 2018 11:54 PM (o3+fQ)
May I ask why you didn't go on to do a residency? I don't mean to pry...
Posted by: DonnaV has a shiny new laptop at January 31, 2018 11:57 PM (P8951)
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Complicated question, lets just say certain chronic health problems bit me in the ass when I was doing my test prep for my boards. I couldn't push them back because of how my school does things. If you're a US FMG you're sort of boned if you do badly. Had 3 interviews last year and only 1 this year. And no, the military's not an option for me because I'm a filthy US FMG.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:09 AM (o3+fQ)
My dear, dear relatives, much to their horror, say that PDT is driving up back to the 50s. Right on, right on.
Be of good cheer.
Posted by: gNewt at February 01, 2018 12:09 AM (5t7Yo)
Posted by: RM at February 01, 2018 12:06 AM (eP+dt)
That's what the Unabomber's manifesto was all about. Seriously. It's worth a read, and it's food for thought.
"Industrial Society and its Future" was the title.
Posted by: rickl at February 01, 2018 12:11 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Sheriff Bart at February 01, 2018 12:11 AM (9SkN+)
Think of that Korean dude at the state of the union speech. How many of us would have given up. He didn't, and how many has he saved because he didn't give up,
years ago I was sitting at a light. My brother was in the truck. We were bitching about some job we were doing. We see some woman pushing a wheel chair across the intersection. There was a young kid in the chair. No arms, no legs. My brother looks at me and says "we have no problems". That was a lesson I never forgot.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:11 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 31, 2018 11:51 PM (xalqz)
Mother Teresa said that God never asks you to succeed. He asks you to try. Time to find out what direction God is pointing and then embark.
This is not a platitude. Not at all.
I find that when I buck the directions God is giving, He tends to smack me upside the head, and sometimes it takes a 2 x 4 to get the message. It isn't fun. But it isn't meant to be.
We are not meant to be perfect--not any more. Once we got kicked out of Eden, we were destined to fail. But He is not. He will carry you when you stumble, and He will pull you up out of the quagmire, and He will set you back on your feet. You must only say yes, and then oblige Him when He points the way.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life."
All three. There isn't one truly without the other two. So, find your way, live the truth, and live life abundantly, because He wants you to.
The first time I tried to kill myself I was in third grade. I once tried to drown myself in a frozen lake. I have been low enough to be hospitalized for several weeks at a time. He did not let me down.
And if you are afraid to speak directly to Him, speak with His Son. And if the Son is too terrifying, have a chat with His Mom. Find a priest, get anointed, get confessed, get blessed, and get on with it. Or whatever the Protestant method is. Just do it. The life you save is precious in His sight.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 01, 2018 12:13 AM (NXsWM)
Posted by: RM at February 01, 2018 12:13 AM (eP+dt)
Posted by: Sheriff Bart at February 01, 2018 12:11 AM (9SkN+)
Fucking Paolo and buying shoes with their child support checks.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:13 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 01, 2018 12:13 AM (fA1SL)
You know, 30,000 words, and all that?
/snrk
*grin*
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2018 12:17 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: andycanuck at February 01, 2018 12:17 AM (ewxPW)
553. I was 30. I'd prepaid all my bills and the rent and settled all my
debts with money left in the bank, to prove it wasn't poverty or
desperation or anything else or other than a calm and rational
calculation that led me to the decision. I'd even researched methods to
minimize risk of failure and accompanying mess. There I was. And here I
am.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 01, 2018 12:09 AM (fA1SL)
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It's hard to explain that mindset, where it seems like that's the only way out. It's just as hard to explain why I didn't, I sure as hell had means and oppotunity. I can say this: getting to the other side leaves you with an appreciation for the personal Hell another person might have gone through. Also, I've had my ups and downs, but I haven't been in that place since then.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:17 AM (o3+fQ)
Never ask a question for which you do not truly want the answer.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:06 PM (NWiLs)
I will not have one of those devices in my house. They may not have been developed by CyberDyne Systems but they are the next step in the rise of the machines.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (FTXAT)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 01, 2018 12:09 AM (fA1SL)
You're giving me flashbacks. A friend of mine some years ago killed himself. he did all the things you just said. Even washed all his clothes and folded them. Took care of all debts, etc. He put a bullet in his head with his sister on the phone. As he was dying he realized what he did and started crying that he didn't want to die. His sister had to hear all this. Tragic doesn't even come close to describe it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (DfdNc)
I've been sober for 30 years this month. I don't have all the answers but if you or him want to reach out petmorons at gmail
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (3/sUh)
Posted by: gNewt at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (5t7Yo)
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:17 AM (o3+fQ)
And people who've never been there will never truly understand either.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: RM at February 01, 2018 12:13 AM (eP+dt)
It is rather disturbing, though. I forgot to mention that.
Posted by: rickl at February 01, 2018 12:19 AM (sdi6R)
Ted is a piker.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 01, 2018 12:19 AM (fA1SL)
Never ask a question for which you do not truly want the answer.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2018 10:06 PM (NWiLs)
I will not have one of those devices in my house. They may not have been developed by CyberDyne Systems but they are the next step in the rise of the machines.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (FTXAT)
I'm not anticipating T-800s but I sure as hell ain't bringing a 24/7 electronic surveillance device into my home.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:21 AM (NWiLs)
545
So how does a CT rig compare to a LASIK suite, in terms of cost and complexity? That might be a useful yardstick.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 31, 2018 11:59 PM (di1hb)
That sounds like a very good question.
Posted by: rickl at February 01, 2018 12:04 AM (sdi6R)
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I wager a CT rig is much cheaper. It's essentially an advanced X-Ray system. The advancements have come partially via computer processing advances. LASIK, you're talking a lot of very finely machined and built equipment, likely much more expensive.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:22 AM (o3+fQ)
I've never tried with a gun. Knifes, pills, almost driving into a tree...yeah. This has been a lifelong struggle.
Jim,
We've written back and forth a couple of times and I appreciate your words.
I've tried twice to attend to Texas MoMee. Both times I just didn't have the money to go. Maybe some face time with some 'rons (and an 'ette or two) might help, but that's a long way off.
Bezerker and TCN: Thanks.
I can't say I'm any better at this moment, but this, too, hopefully shall pass.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 01, 2018 12:22 AM (xalqz)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 01, 2018 12:22 AM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 01, 2018 12:22 AM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:23 AM (DfdNc)
UHURA: It doesn't make any sense.
SPOCK: To expect sense from two mentalities of such extreme viewpoints is not logical.
SULU: But their planet's dead. Does it matter now which one's right?
SPOCK: Not to Lokai and Bele. All that matters to them is their hate.
Star Trek "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at February 01, 2018 12:23 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at February 01, 2018 12:23 AM (tGjfm)
Posted by: barbarausa at February 01, 2018 12:24 AM (ru28e)
Great group of folks assembled here and definitely in my prayers...
Posted by: texcat at February 01, 2018 12:24 AM (wf3RQ)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at February 01, 2018 12:24 AM (mMeIQ)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 01, 2018 12:22 AM (6Ll1u)
It's about the Little 500 bicycle race in Bloomington, IN. I went to the race once, do not remember a thing of the bikes. I was beyond drunk.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 12:24 AM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (NWiLs)
I'm swinging back through the area this coming Monday btw.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:24 AM (DfdNc)
What did you use before cars Mike?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2018 12:25 AM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 12:25 AM (sZJfc)
Stay strong, my brother. You have responsibilities beyond your ken.
Or mine, and I'm pretty damned smart, if I do say so m'self.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 01, 2018 12:25 AM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:21 AM (NWiLs)
That very much too...
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:26 AM (FTXAT)
It's hard to explain that mindset, where it seems like that's the only
way out. It's just as hard to explain why I didn't, I sure as hell had
means and oppotunity. I can say this: getting to the other side leaves
you with an appreciation for the personal Hell another person might have
gone through. Also, I've had my ups and downs, but I haven't been in
that place since then.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:17 AM (o3+fQ)
And people who've never been there will never truly understand either.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (NWiLs)
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Tell me about it. I once heard my sister go on a rant about how she'd handle her son if he was depressed. It was all I could do to keep from saying something REALLY unkind...To her credit, I think she's seen the error of that opinion. Depression's no joke and the meds exist for a damn good reason. I'm alive today because of those meds and because of a counselor who helped me through a really shitty time in my life.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:29 AM (o3+fQ)
rant about how she'd handle her son if he was depressed. It was all I
could do to keep from saying something REALLY unkind...To her credit, I
think she's seen the error of that opinion. Depression's no joke and the
meds exist for a damn good reason. I'm alive today because of those
meds and because of a counselor who helped me through a really shitty
time in my life.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:29 AM (o3+fQ)
It is uber-scary though that the medicines say they actually increase the risk of suicide in teens and young adults.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:30 AM (FTXAT)
Posted by: RM at February 01, 2018 12:31 AM (eP+dt)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Burros. We would swim them across from Bull island, where Crosley had a herd.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2018 12:31 AM (5OO3x)
2 winters ago i was as far down as i've ever been. my son sent me a video done by a young man who jumped off the golden gate bridge.
what made me think of that is he said the moment he jumped he regretted it. instant regret.
Posted by: booknlass at February 01, 2018 12:32 AM (c2m/9)
I think a majority of people have thought about walking away from life. I know I have.
If you think about it more than a fleeting thought please reach out for help
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2018 12:32 AM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 12:33 AM (sZJfc)
my life sucks, in my eyes, but then i go out and see people more FU than me, or at the VA, and shit could be whole lot worse than my level of shit.
besides, if i were to off myself, that would please a shit load of people i loath, so my goal is to outlive them all and piss on their graves.
success is all in how you define "winning"...
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 12:33 AM (qd+vn)
MOAR economical than an ox?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2018 12:35 AM (3/sUh)
I'm not anticipating T-800s but I sure as hell ain't bringing a 24/7 electronic surveillance device into my home.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:21 AM (NWiLs)
That very much too...
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:26 AM (FTXAT
=========
If there's one thing that the last few years have taught us, its that the tech firms can't be trusted. As C.S. Lewis put it:
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own."
Look at the people at the tech firms: I only wish they were robber barons.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:36 AM (o3+fQ)
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 12:33 AM (qd+vn)
Maybe yes, maybe no. But for sure now, Taurus, we know that you're full of Bull.
Either that, or you're a questionably well made Brazilian pistol, with horrid warranty procedures.
/snrk
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2018 12:37 AM (QzJWU)
Only because he lived did we hear of his story.
I remember that.
It's in a docu movie on the subject.
Posted by: navybrat at February 01, 2018 12:37 AM (w7KSn)
Barbarausa, i have addicted kids. depressed kids. troubled. is it any wonder, the world is darker all the time. but we love each other, sometimes angrily. I wish you gentle time with your son.
tcn, thank you for what you wrote.
all, good night. sweet dreams
Posted by: booknlass at February 01, 2018 12:37 AM (c2m/9)
Tell me about it. I once heard my sister go on a
rant about how she'd handle her son if he was depressed. It was all I
could do to keep from saying something REALLY unkind...To her credit, I
think she's seen the error of that opinion. Depression's no joke and the
meds exist for a damn good reason. I'm alive today because of those
meds and because of a counselor who helped me through a really shitty
time in my life.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:29 AM (o3+fQ)
It is uber-scary though that the medicines say they actually increase the risk of suicide in teens and young adults.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:30 AM (FTXAT)
Not uber-scary for you Jackal or any adult who needs them. I have a friend who has been helped tremendously by anti-depressants. But every time a commercial for one comes on and they list the risks and warnings, one of them is that the medication may increase the risk of suicide in teens and adults younger than 25. And yet they are marketing to that population too.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:38 AM (FTXAT)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 01, 2018 12:39 AM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:24 AM (DfdNc)
Whereabouts? South FL again or someplace else?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:39 AM (NWiLs)
We lost one of ours here a few years ago. He threatened to do it a year before/ I convinced a friend of mine who found her father when she was 12 after he killed himself to come on here and talk some sense into him. She told how it damaged her for years, and how she never knew why, and how come he didn't love her enough to stick around for her. It was heart breaking, she spilled her guts and I learned things from her post that I didn't even know. It tooK a lot of guts for her to relive that just to try and get through to him . The fuck went and did it anyway a year later.
I watched people here scrambling to save him when they had a clue he was going to do it. They were calling cops states away to try and get to him.
You never go down alone, and you always leave a trail a ruin behind you.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:39 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Teotlatl, Rider of Alpacas at February 01, 2018 12:41 AM (9SkN+)
victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under
robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's
cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be
satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:36 AM (o3+fQ)
I have that quote tacked to my wall at work. It's one of my favorites.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:41 AM (FTXAT)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:39 AM (NWiLs)
Same place.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:41 AM (DfdNc)
I've been reading Jordan Peterson's book, and I'll share these things from his book, bcz they are true and better than my words:
"You are more necessary than you know to the unfolding of things."
"Detach from self-contempt"
"You are valuable"
I think you are all valuable. And I'd hate to think any of you have bought the lie you aren't.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 12:41 AM (V7qBU)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 01, 2018 12:41 AM (6Ll1u)
You're giving me flashbacks. A friend of mine some years ago killed himself. he did all the things you just said. Even washed all his clothes and folded them. Took care of all debts, etc. He put a bullet in his head with his sister on the phone. As he was dying he realized what he did and started crying that he didn't want to die. His sister had to hear all this. Tragic doesn't even come close to describe it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:18 AM (DfdNc)
Good grief.
Hunter S. Thompson committed suicide while on the phone with his wife, I believe.
I can sympathize with people who do it in private. But to force a loved one to see it or hear it is selfish and inconsiderate at a minimum, and maybe deliberately cruel.
Posted by: rickl at February 01, 2018 12:42 AM (sdi6R)
All I can think to add to the discussion is that to those of you who do lose the thread, people here care about you and are willing to help- even if it is just to listen. To share in your pain and to shoulder it together and hopefully, make it manageable.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 12:42 AM (sZJfc)
Roger. The stars probably aren't going to align this time either, but hopefully they will eventually.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:43 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by:
FIFY
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2018 12:44 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 12:44 AM (sZJfc)
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if i wasn't full of bull, i wouldn't fit into teh Horde very well, now would i, mister "NSTIW", teller of sea stories?
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 12:45 AM (qd+vn)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2018 12:46 AM (Zdm89)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2018 12:47 AM (3/sUh)
-rickl
I have a hard time with that too. Cruel is the right word.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 12:47 AM (V7qBU)
Tell me about it. I once heard my sister go on a
rant about how she'd handle her son if he was depressed. It was all I
could do to keep from saying something REALLY unkind...To her credit, I
think she's seen the error of that opinion. Depression's no joke and the
meds exist for a damn good reason. I'm alive today because of those
meds and because of a counselor who helped me through a really shitty
time in my life.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:29 AM (o3+fQ)
It is uber-scary though that the medicines say they actually increase the risk of suicide in teens and young adults.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:30 AM (FTXAT)
============It was the dismissive tone that enraged me. The side effects didn't enter into her spiel.
Regarding that correlation you mentioned: That's the reason why you're not supposed to start any antidepressant without a counceling regime (its also a bit overblown IMO by a media that knows precisely jack and shit about medicine). Depression has multiple components: the mood symptoms everyone knows about, the lack of energy less so. Most antidepressants take a while to kick in and tend to help with low energy before they help with mood symptoms. A good counselor can help a patient get through that first stage and monitor for any suicidality.
Meds HELP with symptoms. Counseling helps you work through the cause of the symptoms.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:47 AM (o3+fQ)
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 12:45 AM (qd+vn)
Sea stories? SEA! STORIES!???
Have ever even ONCE opened a narrative with "this ain't no shit..." ????
NO.
EVERY so called "sea story" begins with "this ain't no shit", you know.
Of COURSE you know.
Damned Taurus.
Just another misfire, I suppose.
*laughing wildly*
Hasta la nite nite, Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2018 12:48 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 01, 2018 12:48 AM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 12:41 AM (V7qBU)
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of course i'm valuable:
if nothing else, i serve as an EXCELLENT bad example.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 12:49 AM (qd+vn)
Posted by: Johnny Tuma was a rebel at February 01, 2018 12:50 AM (IqV8l)
Good evening, good people. A stellar day here--brisk but no wind and sunny.
Had some range time with the M14 and the 1911. Since having both eyes rebuilt shooting has become a true joy. The clarity is unbelievable. Just for a few days post surgery, focusing at longer distance was disconcerting because of sensory overload. I couldn't process all the detail. All that's gone now.
Everything has improved visually--driving, reading,the whole nine.
But especially the shooting.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 12:50 AM (S/hVx)
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 12:51 AM (qd+vn)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 01, 2018 12:52 AM (6Ll1u)
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of course i'm valuable:
if nothing else, i serve as an EXCELLENT bad example.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 12:49 AM (qd+vn)
The purpose of some people is to serve as a warning to others. I'm becoming more convinced this is mine. The best I can hope for is to tell my kids what not to do and maybe keep them from the same shipwreck my life became.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:53 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Max Power at February 01, 2018 12:53 AM (llxrS)
That is so great to hear IG
I don't have the guts to have my eyes worked on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2018 12:54 AM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 12:55 AM (sZJfc)
them. I have a friend who has been helped tremendously by
anti-depressants. But every time a commercial for one comes on and they
list the risks and warnings, one of them is that the medication may
increase the risk of suicide in teens and adults younger than 25. And
yet they are marketing to that population too.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:38 AM (FTXAT)
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I WAS a kid when I started them. They saved my life. Without them I might have started self medicating (something that runs in the family) or just ended it all. Most doctors don't recommend these meds for adolescents lightly. If they do suggest them, they have a damn good reason. Nowadays, because of that link, they'll probably refer the pt. to a child psychiatrist and they will be monitoring for any increased suicidality. I know hearing those side effects can be scary, but if you have a kid in that pit it might be what's necessary to pull them out.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:55 AM (o3+fQ)
Posted by: Gloria Allred at February 01, 2018 12:55 AM (tGjfm)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 12:53 AM (NWiLs)
You're alive, and you have kids. That isn't a fucking shipwreck. The longest journey starts with the first step. Eyes forward dude.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:55 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2018 12:57 AM (QxXRY)
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under
robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's
cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be
satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:36 AM (o3+fQ)
I have that quote tacked to my wall at work. It's one of my favorites.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:41 AM (FTXAT)
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That and Burke's "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." have stuck with me since I first read them.
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 12:58 AM (o3+fQ)
Berserker, i cracked open a fortune cookie a few weeks ago, and it said
"the contentment that you seek is right around the corner.
Look forward to it!" and you know, it helps me everytime I think if that
Posted by: booknlass at February 01, 2018 12:58 AM (c2m/9)
Posted by: vast cloud of lurkers at February 01, 2018 12:59 AM (fSf/G)
Had some range time with the M14 and the 1911. Since having both eyes rebuilt shooting has become a true joy. The clarity is unbelievable. Just for a few days post surgery, focusing at longer distance was disconcerting because of sensory overload. I couldn't process all the detail. All that's gone now.
Everything has improved visually--driving, reading,the whole nine.
But especially the shooting.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 12:50 AM (S/hVx)
Write to me, sir, to the address linked in my nic.
This will sound weird, but it's real. In my 20s, my eyesight was FREAKISHLY good. I could I.D. aircraft flying above 30,000 ft. Did so with USAF Flight Surgeon and Rated Pilots present, back when I was active duty in the '70s.
So, even now that I have to use "one point five" cheaters to read and shoot the handguns, I can still put 50 into the "X" ring at 10 yards, and hit 18" steel at 130 yards, proven at Ben Had's Tx Mo Meet.
With a 4" bbl. revolver, shooting .38 wadcutters.
It's a struggle, though.
I want my old eyesight back. So, I wanna know who YOUR doctor is, and send my inquiries online, withal.
In my prime? I did not need a spotting scope to score M-16 hits at 100 yards.
Likely, I won't get that much acuity back. I'll settle for "mostly" though.
Now, I'm really to the snoozer. Early alarm.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2018 01:01 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:02 AM (sZJfc)
Aetius, I had both lenses done and some cornea work. The results enable me to see with no glasses of any type for any situation. The Dr said during the consult that might be the outcome.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 01:03 AM (S/hVx)
Posted by: booknlass at February 01, 2018 01:04 AM (c2m/9)
Posted by: My Appalling Horror Is Bigger Than Your Appalling Horror at February 01, 2018 01:05 AM (t3kPl)
Good night my fellow hordelings......I cherish you all!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at February 01, 2018 01:05 AM (mMeIQ)
Berserker, i cracked open a fortune cookie a few weeks ago, and it said
"the contentment that you seek is right around the corner.
Look forward to it!" and you know, it helps me everytime I think if that
Posted by: booknlass at February 01, 2018 12:58 AM (c2m/9)
You wouldn't believe the amount of times I failed at things. I just kept getting up and trying harder. Some times the journey is more important than the destination.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:05 AM (DfdNc)
Yeah...I just don't want them getting to where I am in their lives and having the same piles of damage and regret.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:05 AM (NWiLs)
I have a friend who has been helped tremendously by anti-depressants. But every time a commercial for one comes on and they list the risks and warnings, one of them is that the medication may increase the risk of suicide in teens and adults younger than 25. And yet they are marketing to that population too.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 12:38 AM (FTXAT)
You said a mouthful. The side effects are not only a risk of suicide, but also paranoia and violent thoughts.
An awful lot of mass murderers have been young people on precisely those kinds of medications.
But never mind that. Let's talk about gun control instead.
Posted by: rickl at February 01, 2018 01:08 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 01:09 AM (V7qBU)
*types*
*deletes*
*types*
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Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 01:09 AM (V7qBU)
Oh just spit it out already.
(Yeah, I know, phrasing).
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:10 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2018 01:11 AM (3/sUh)
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 01:03 AM (S/hVx)
Huh. I know when I looked into it (very nearsighted, have to wear RGP contacts all the time) they told me my vision was bad enough that I would need the lens replacement. The cost was a bit steep and I see fine with contacts. Still, something to keep in mind.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:12 AM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 01, 2018 01:16 AM (RuIsu)
have to wear RGP contacts all the time) they told me my vision was bad
enough that I would need the lens replacement. The cost was a bit steep
and I see fine with contacts. Still, something to keep in mind.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:12 AM (sZJfc)
I had the lens replacement surgery... it is well, well worth the money.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:16 AM (FTXAT)
*types*
*deletes*
*types*
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Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 01:09 AM (V7qBU)
Oh just spit it out already.
(Yeah, I know, phrasing).
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:10 AM (NWiLs)
Too much to say and ask. Not within 10 miles. What are you, like 95 years old?
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 01:16 AM (V7qBU)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:17 AM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:18 AM (sZJfc)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:05 AM (NWiLs)
Well I told you before, if you are alive and single the world is your oyster. I don't even have the freedom a single dude has, and I got serious freedom, but I still have the wife in the back of my mind when I have some crazy idea. Not saying single is the way to fly forever, but while you are make the most of it. You can do anything when you are light on your feet. Your time is your own. There are endless possibilities. You aren't an idiot. You got a quick wit. just take that first step. Don't let your mind become a prison.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:19 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:18 AM (sZJfc)
But no searching for your glasses in the morning and no fantastically itchy eyes because allergies and contacts don't mix.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:20 AM (FTXAT)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 01:16 AM (V7qBU)
Old soul.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:21 AM (NWiLs)
Climate, interrupted.
Posted by: 350PDX at February 01, 2018 01:22 AM (tGjfm)
I wound up with 2 more exams, to see if laser surgery plus lenses would correct my vision. Some people get away with no vision assistance required post surgery for reading or distance, I lucked out. Went from using contacts to nothing at all.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 01:24 AM (S/hVx)
As someone said, this has been a pretty intense discussion.
I expect to see each and every one of you back here tomorrow night, m'kay?
Posted by: rickl at February 01, 2018 01:25 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:28 AM (sZJfc)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 01:28 AM (tRaq7)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:17 AM (sZJfc)
You come by get good deal! 2-eye replacement and free Mao's Braised Pork. Our motto is: We no see dog, we let you see dog!
Posted by: Ho Chi Minh's Hunan Palace & Eye-fix at February 01, 2018 01:29 AM (wf3RQ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:18 AM (sZJfc)
The wife had lasik. She was blind as a bat. She couldn't pick me out from across the room without her contacts or glasses. The day she got the lasik when I was driving her home she was reading car license plates 5 car lengths ahead of us. We stopped at McDonalds on the way home and she was reading the frigging drive thru menu from the parking lot. Most amazing thing I ever saw.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:29 AM (DfdNc)
Thing is I know that you're right. I just have to figure out the what and how of it.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:29 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:31 AM (sZJfc)
Just got in from my gig. Did I miss anything?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 01:28 AM (tRaq7)
Lots of heavy shit. And for once I'm not being smartassed. It's been pretty intense.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:31 AM (NWiLs)
You still need to hie thee to one of my gigs sometime on I-drive. It'd be kewl to meet another Moron in meatspace.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 01:33 AM (tRaq7)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:29 AM (NWiLs)
Well, I double dog dared ya on the cooking thing. Like, a month ago.
I was born an old soul and we tend to overthink things...bigly.
Try to do the cooking thing before you hit Yoda territory.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 01:34 AM (V7qBU)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:29 AM (NWiLs)
That's easy. List your interests, things you would like to do, find where the people with those interests are, and have at it. Common interests puts you on even ground with other people with those interests. Even if money is an issue you can work around it with a little creativity. Its how I learned to do most of what I know.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:35 AM (DfdNc)
I swear (#&%^%&Q*!@#) there's just no respect for the classic AoSHQ memes anymore.
Hi. I'm just here for a minute until this mug goes empty. You can entertain me in the meantime.
Lotsa comment traffic these days, ONTs going >1000. I hope Ace is profiting from all the voluntary content.
Posted by: mindful webworker - :D at February 01, 2018 01:36 AM (9K3Nr)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at February 01, 2018 01:36 AM (tGjfm)
https://tinyurl.com/y7jtlu67
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:31 AM (sZJfc)
The Internet is for porn!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:36 AM (NWiLs)
I wound up with 2 more exams, to see if laser surgery plus lenses would
correct my vision. Some people get away with no vision assistance
required post surgery for reading or distance, I lucked out. Went from
using contacts to nothing at all.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 01:24 AM (S/hVx)
I didn't have cataracts but when I went to be evaluated for lasik, the doctor basically laughed at me. He said my vision was way too bad for lasik and I would have to have lens replacement surgery if I wanted my vision surgically fixed. I had that same surgery as you irongrandpa but they didn't remove my natural lens. They just inserted the artificial lens behind my pupil.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:38 AM (FTXAT)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:38 AM (sZJfc)
-Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:29 AM (NWiLs)
Do the "what" for yourself. The "how" figures itself out.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:38 AM (Ckg4U)
The War on Drugs is necessary because of the welfare state. That's his argument. /shrug it's IMPOSSIBLE TO FIX, so guess we gotta keep puttin' those potheads in prison.
Posted by: Jason M at February 01, 2018 01:39 AM (S1+dw)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:39 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:38 AM (FTXAT)
Huh ok. So they just put the glasses/contacts on the 'inside'. Kind of cool. I thought they just replaced the lens completely.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:39 AM (sZJfc)
You still need to hie thee to one of my gigs sometime on I-drive. It'd be kewl to meet another Moron in meatspace.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 01:33 AM (tRaq7)
Email's in my nic. Let me know where and when you're playing and I'll make it out one night when I can.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:40 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:38 AM (Ckg4U)
Bingo.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:41 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 01:41 AM (V7qBU)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:39 AM (sZJfc)
According to the doctor, that allows them to easily reverse the surgery if necessary in the future or change out the lenses if something makes your vision much worse.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:41 AM (FTXAT)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:42 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 01:43 AM (qd+vn)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:17 AM (sZJfc)
Knee replacements are pretty easy
Except for me
It needed revision within 6 months
Think I will keep my glasses
Glad it worked out for those here
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2018 01:43 AM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:40 AM (NWiLs)
There you go. DO go to one of BB's gigs. Get the fuck out and do something. Mingle with some drunk chicks.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:43 AM (DfdNc)
It'll be a while 'cause I have to get B'Gal home from the hospital tomorrow and get her settled and all.
But we're there all Feb. This Fri, 630 - 830, find the bass player.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 01:44 AM (tRaq7)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:39 AM (sZJfc)
According
to the doctor, that allows them to easily reverse the surgery if
necessary in the future or change out the lenses if something makes your
vision much worse.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:41 AM (FTXAT)
That particular surgery is called phakic interocular lens implants.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:44 AM (FTXAT)
It'll be a while 'cause I have to get B'Gal home from the hospital tomorrow and get her settled and all.
But we're there all Feb. This Fri, 630 - 830, find the bass player.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 01:44 AM (tRaq7)
Understood. How's she doing?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:47 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 01:47 AM (qd+vn)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:43 AM (DfdNc)
I haven't "mingled" in years... One step at a time.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:48 AM (NWiLs)
i'm beat, i feel like shit, and i can only hope the 2nd set of VA docs i just messaged are in tomorrow AND check their shit AND actually respond, instead of being dicks.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 01:49 AM (qd+vn)
for when you can't see dick w/o glasses
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 01:47 AM (qd+vn)
LOL
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:50 AM (FTXAT)
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 01, 2018 01:50 AM (qd+vn)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 01, 2018 01:50 AM (sZJfc)
The SEIU tried to take the GOP out with the garbage truck.
The "evidence": Garbage company sometimes hauls medical waste to a recycling company owned by the Soros Group.
Bullshit meter: shoulder-high
Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 01, 2018 01:52 AM (toi7g)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:43 AM (DfdNc)
Drunk chicks ain't all they're cracked-up to be... LOL.
Welcome to the "Slot Machine of Broads".
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:52 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:53 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Jackal at February 01, 2018 01:53 AM (o3+fQ)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 01:48 AM (NWiLs)
Mingle IS the first step. That's the mind prison thing I warned you about creeping in. There is no step before mingling, unless you count jerking off to porn. In the real world mingle is step 1.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:53 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:54 AM (Ckg4U)
Welcome to the "Slot Machine of Broads".
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:52 AM (Ckg4U)
Didn't say date or marry them, I said mingle.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:55 AM (DfdNc)
What's surprising is that at age 77 everything I was issued is still operational. Every bit of it.
Still do whatever I wish, just a couple steps slower.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 01:55 AM (S/hVx)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:56 AM (Ckg4U)
Much better. What we thought was an infection in one of her fingers turned out to be gout. Need to get her home so she can rest up.
Thanks for asking. I keep her well informed of the goings-on here and pass along the witticisms to her. Eyerolls ensue, but she's reluctant to wade in here.
She's a damn good woman and I'm lucky to have found her. I spend the majority of my time taking care of her due to her many health problems and very limited mobility, and I know if our situations were reversed, she'd be doing the same thing for me. Wish we'd met sooner.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 01:57 AM (tRaq7)
The SEIU tried to take the GOP out with the garbage truck.
The "evidence": Garbage company sometimes hauls medical waste to a recycling company owned by the Soros Group.
Bullshit meter: shoulder-high
Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 01, 2018 01:52 AM (toi7g)
Locals in Crozier, Va say that RR crossing has been malfunctioning for a while and people would be left sitting for hours when no train was actually coming... to the point that locals started ignoring it when the bars were down and just exercised caution in going around them. That garbage truck followed pattern but did not exercise caution.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 01, 2018 01:57 AM (FTXAT)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:55 AM (DfdNc)
717
Fair enough. Point taken.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:58 AM (Ckg4U)
O, that this too too solid flesh would melt
Thaw and resolve itself into a dew!
Or that the Everlasting had not fix'd
His canon 'gainst self-slaughter! O God! God!...
I feel lost and hopeless, and then I read the AoS prayer list, and I realize what really lost and hopeless can feel like. Onward, however hard...
Goodnight.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Hamlet Act 1 Scene 2 at February 01, 2018 01:58 AM (9K3Nr)
So Most Excellent VP Pence was in town Wednesday........and The PDT His Hairness is inbound Today........
Ol' PDT LOVES US HILLBILLYS!!!! As He should.....we LOVE Him RIGHT Back........
There are so many observations I have......but one sticks out.....
The LeftFuckTards have bussed in "Liberals" for protests......."Hint, those bussed IN, were NOT gainfully Employed in their selected resident Urban Area.....", evidently "Professional Protestin" pays better than Welfare/Unemployment.......FACT.
Any bets on whether "said payment is in CASH?"....???? Ha.......
INCREDIBLY, (snark), those Protesters.......stand out. (Self edit metaphor.....)....is it because The Ol' WV is the Heart of The Silent Majority.....(Yes, that's IT in One...)...?
Or is it Our Hillbilly Privilege that's temptin? White 3rd World Poverty in the Good Ol USA on display......? (Btw, only the "Shithole" Djibouti surpasses some of the Poverty that I've SEEN here in the WV Kingdom....)......
If The Left Used Logic an Rationality.......The Horde would be in trouble.
BUT, We Hillbillys are WHITE AND POOR......so fuck Us.
Yet, We Succeed and Survive. So.....Fuck Everyone Else. No Offense.
Thank the MAGNIFICENT Jesus that the MSM "standard" doesn't apply here......REALITY prevails.
I was on the inside of PDGWB visit years ago.....so the machinations of a Presidential Visit is, frankly, captivatinly fascinating......
But, My innate Giddiness over the FACT it's PDT Rollin on MY Roads.
........skews everything.....(Fuck Yeah!!!!)....
All the Best Y'all.......
As always, Y'all ABSOLUTELY Deserve IT!
HBK
Posted by: Hillbillyking at February 01, 2018 01:58 AM (PhkcZ)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 01:58 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 01:53 AM (DfdNc)
Well...shit. I was hoping for something less daunting.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:00 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:00 AM (Ckg4U)
The War on Drugs is necessary because of the welfare state. That's his argument. /shrug it's IMPOSSIBLE TO FIX, so guess we gotta keep puttin' those potheads in prison.
Posted by: Jason M at February 01, 2018 01:39 AM (S1+dw)
It's all so terrible, suggesting maybe laws should be followed until such time that they're changed. And Heaven forbid questioning the wisdom of the infallible majority opinion. It's not like we made sure to institute safeguards against recklessly following majority opinion in the foundation of our government, right?
Potheads should've at least had better sense and called themselves Dreamers. Then all those statist meanies would have no problem with them flaunting the law.
Posted by: Sjg at February 01, 2018 02:00 AM (gDSJf)
Still do whatever I wish, just a couple steps slower.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 01:55 AM (S/hVx)
77 and still ripping around in a roadrunner. Damn you give me hope. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:01 AM (DfdNc)
She's a damn good woman and I'm lucky to have found her. I spend the majority of my time taking care of her due to her many health problems and very limited mobility, and I know if our situations were reversed, she'd be doing the same thing for me. Wish we'd met sooner.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 01:57 AM (tRaq7)
Well we are gross. You're a good guy to look after her.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:01 AM (NWiLs)
Anyway--as always, remember we are Americans, so you hold that head HIGH and PROUD. More than ever with good reason.
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe and warm.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 01, 2018 02:01 AM (S/hVx)
I do not put anything past "the resistance" anymore.
What would have happened had the outcome been different? Lose a couple hundred repub House and Senate members?
Posted by: Exiled America Dreamer at February 01, 2018 02:02 AM (Fikbq)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:00 AM (NWiLs)
Smoking weed and watching anime is all I can come up with there. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:03 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:03 AM (Ckg4U)
You are gonna freak him out. Baby steps. Mini baby steps.
First out the door, and to the venue.
Mingle is way down the line. Unless he wants to. But otherwise you are setting the expectations too high. He is gonna freak like a turtle and go back into his shell.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 02:03 AM (V7qBU)
I'ma HAVE to talk to this sumbitch one day... *HAH!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:04 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 02:04 AM (V7qBU)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:00 AM (NWiLs)
Smoking weed and watching anime is all I can come up with there. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:03 AM (DfdNc)
On my scale of anxiety I'd rather try to snatch a raw chicken away from an alligator.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:05 AM (NWiLs)
I have my Mac music collection on an external 320gb Maxtor drive that, admittedly, I think is about 7 or so years old. It's also about 90% full.
Anyway, starting last night, a few albums (all of which are digitally filed next to each other, btw) would, when I try to play them in iTunes.. play the wrong track. In fact not even a track on the CD; a track on another CD. Then it skips back to the correct track, but oftentimes destroys the track I wanted to hear in the first place.
For instance, if I try to play "More Than A Feeling" on Boston? It'll play about 10 seconds of "Freedom 90" by George Michael, then it destroys the Boston track and turns it into a 2-second long wreck.
When I ran a disk utility repair, it said that the Maxtor was placing tracks beyond the directory, or something like that. But then it said it was repaired.
I should also mention that I reformatted this entire drive a few months ago, to ExFAT format, so it would be compatible with both my Mac and PC.
I'm thinking the drive is old and failing, and it wouldn't be too expensive to replace it with something with a lot more storage and that's a lot newer. Anyway, any thoughts anyone here has are appreciated. Thanks again.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 01, 2018 02:06 AM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:06 AM (Ckg4U)
No pressure, Insomniac. Just getting you out of the house for a while might be good for now.
And it's not like I have to beat groupies away with a stick or anything. That place isn't a "scene." Too many touristas.
Take your time and we'll keep in touch in the meantime.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 02:06 AM (tRaq7)
Posted by: Sauron at February 01, 2018 02:06 AM (tGjfm)
Amen, right on, 'merica!
IronGrampaw's sign-off is always a highlight of the day.
Gnight again.
Posted by: mindful webworker - not really back at February 01, 2018 02:06 AM (9K3Nr)
First out the door, and to the venue.
Mingle is way down the line. Unless he wants to. But otherwise you are setting the expectations too high. He is gonna freak like a turtle and go back into his shell.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 02:03 AM (V7qBU)
Well I wasn't thinking he just escaped from 30 years of being chained in a basement in the congo. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:06 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:07 AM (NWiLs)
-Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:05 AM (NWiLs)
You actually emailed me once.
-First step.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:07 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 02:08 AM (tRaq7)
Cause, the view from My Octane Fueled High Horse is so Fuckin Encompassing.........
The Criminally Negligent Vice News........they had a "Expose" about Boko Haram, called TERROR...on the Ol DirectV.
When ANYBODY tries to "Justify", even minimally.......THE GOD-DAMDED Use of CHILD SUICIDE BOMBERS,.....I.e (understanding Their Viewpoint)........May You Be Gangraped To Death in Cell Block 99.
Perfect Example of the MindSet We are up against Horde. Y'all know it......
AN, ......Yet,
We're Winnin.
Talk about Spirit.......
Big Time CHEERS TO Y'ALL!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Hillbillyking at February 01, 2018 02:14 AM (PhkcZ)
Sometimes, it gets really dusty when I read those.
I've even offered my phone # to Morons of the Finest Ilk.
Point is... You never know what you're going to get unless you have a goal and run Face-First toward it.
My tears are Glory to me. I need those, lest I run roughshod and get myself banned.
Step-By-Step, Rung-By-Rung.
Climbing Jacob's Ladder.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:14 AM (Ckg4U)
Kewl. You set your own pace. You don't have to spend much time there if you don't want to.
Usually, I'm only there a couple of hours anyway on the weekends because I need to get back home to B'Gal. We play all night on Wednesdays, but not every week.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 02:15 AM (tRaq7)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:15 AM (Ckg4U)
-Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:05 AM (NWiLs)
You actually emailed me once.
-First step.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:07 AM (Ckg4U)
And slap was crazy enough to call me once. talk about venturing into the unknown. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:16 AM (DfdNc)
See we all think about the movies, music, wine and produce but without water that all goes away. If then the eastern parts split bringing the produce back into the US the rest of Cali will wither to desert since we can appoint the eastern loyal part as the lawful recipients of that water.
Water is key to Cali. Without it the whole state is a desert.
Posted by: bestie21 at February 01, 2018 02:17 AM (quxMC)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 01, 2018 02:17 AM (eMKNe)
Posted by: bestie21 at February 01, 2018 02:18 AM (quxMC)
But one of the things that is always missed about the Trump Jr. meeting, is how credible the "assistence" of the Russians was. The initial email talked about official Russian government documents which show the wrongdoing of Hillary Clinton? Did the Russians give the Trump campaign such documents? That's what Trump Jr. found promising. Just paraphrasing from memory it was "If it's everything you say, I love it".
But where were these documents showing criminal activity of Clinton during the campaign? Essentially, the story from the Trump team has always been that they got nothing out of the meeting. Thus there was an *interest* in "Russian assistance", but there was nothing substantive given to the Trump campaign from Russia from this meeting.
And as long as there was no quid pro quo, I can't see where learning about Clinton's criminal behavior in another country isn't in the interest of a country considering electing her. Take any country X, and say X has official documents demonstrating illegal activity of Hillary Clinton. This information is definitely in the interest of people electing her, but whatever country supplies such valuable information would be--by the current stupid definition--"foreign interference" in our election.
Of course we're talking about a party that thinks that if the Russians hacked their servers and chose an extra-Trump means to leak information about their fixed primaries--that it's more about the Russians hacking their servers, than the distasteful conduct it reveals.
Posted by: Axebot at February 01, 2018 02:19 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: bestie21 at February 01, 2018 02:17 AM (quxMC)
Wow. That seepage thing is fascinating.
Oh, no. I just tossed the Horde a softball.
Oh no. I just did it again....
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt-bot at February 01, 2018 02:19 AM (8iiMU)
Posted by: bestie21 at February 01, 2018 02:20 AM (quxMC)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:16 AM (DfdNc)
lol
I don't know either of you, but your nics alone tell me I wish I could have listened in.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 02:20 AM (V7qBU)
Night!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2018 02:20 AM (NWiLs)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:16 AM (DfdNc)
I had forgotten about that until Miley reminded me.
"Fuckahtalkssofastthatyoureallyneed to, you know, writeshitdown."
Total Jersey and I got this sonofabitch.
I'll talk to anyone. You want to know WHY?
Because I LISTEN.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:21 AM (Ckg4U)
Got the Top Shelf Octane reserved for ya Slap.........
It'll be entertainin for sure.
Appreciate Ya!
Posted by: Hillbillyking at February 01, 2018 02:21 AM (PhkcZ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 01, 2018 02:22 AM (tRaq7)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:22 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:22 AM (Ckg4U)
And remember,
You matter
You are valuable
And you are not to leave the planet.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 02:23 AM (V7qBU)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:23 AM (Ckg4U)
I don't know either of you, but your nics alone tell me I wish I could have listened in.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 01, 2018 02:20 AM (V7qBU)
Depending on if your male or female it could have ran from a good chuckle to life altering. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:24 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:24 AM (Ckg4U)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:24 AM (DfdNc)
That poor broad would have been verbally turned "Ass-Over-Tea-Kettle".
Good gal. She's a sweetheart.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:26 AM (Ckg4U)
That poor broad would have been verbally turned "Ass-Over-Tea-Kettle".
Good gal. She's a sweetheart.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:26 AM (Ckg4U)
female? I'm going with life altering. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:31 AM (DfdNc)
Possibly failing, but 7 years is a bit premature for an drive dealing with only external data. If no errors are reoccuring when you check with disk utilities the drive may still be fine.
From the way the problem is described it almost sounds like the OS isn't properly identifying the file system correctly and it's reading from the wrong locations as a result. If the problem only occurs on one OS this may be the issue. If there isn't a way for the OS to recognize it properly you might try remaking the partition. If you choose exFAT again try and format it on from windows if you didn't before. as it's more likely to be finicky. If that still doesn't solve it you might try using a different file system. NTFS works if you are fine with the drive being read-only on Mac. FAT32 also works if there are no files > 4GB.
A new drive isn't an unreasonable option if you go that route. $30-40 per TB is common now.
Posted by: Sjg at February 01, 2018 02:36 AM (gDSJf)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:31 AM (DfdNc)
*HAH!*
We're good. Not Great. Just Goooood.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:37 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:40 AM (DfdNc)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:40 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:45 AM (Ckg4U)
I LOVE Weridos.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:45 AM (Ckg4U)
Not even gonna ask.... lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:48 AM (DfdNc)
I LOVE Weridos.
Isn't there a law against collecting and keeping humans? Even the freaks?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 01, 2018 02:52 AM (IcT7t)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 02:48 AM (DfdNc)
Old School Weirdos, like you. You fastalkinsonofabitch.
-Cars
-Women
-Metal
-Shit Because I Talk It
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:55 AM (Ckg4U)
-Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 01, 2018 02:52 AM (IcT7t)
Come to Ohio.
...and put the lotion on your skin unless you want The Hose again.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 02:57 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 01, 2018 12:39 AM (DfdNc)
Yep. Happened a couple of times that I know of. One they got to in time, one not.
Have part of a thread bookmarked where this is discussed. Other links went bad.
Need to check out originals to see degree of interest people on this site go through to help.
Posted by: dDan at February 01, 2018 03:03 AM (hwYmz)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 03:03 AM (vbvxt)
Uplifting but sorrowful at the same time.
Posted by: Exiled America Dreamer at February 01, 2018 03:12 AM (Fikbq)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 03:13 AM (PTSvA)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 03:13 AM (PTSvA)
The pictures of "candidate" Manning look like a guy dressed up as a girl.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 03:18 AM (vbvxt)
They used to be in Britain but it looks like this show is filmed in the US.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 03:22 AM (vbvxt)
Posted by: Island Girl at February 01, 2018 03:23 AM (FJrl0)
My Mother and Father have been married for over fifty years. *applause*
The shitty part about that is that when they HATE each-other, I am their receptacle.
My Father is losing his mind and my Mother refuses to believe it.
They both believe that they can stop over at any time without so much as a phone call.
My Mother bitches and my Father eats everything that Mom won't buy for him.
They don't have the keys to the Deadbolts. In the Spring, I can tell them that someone picked me up when they see my car in the garage.
At this time of year, they see no tire-tracks and I have to tell them that I was sick. Which was true most of this year.
I Hate them, yet I am grateful for their upbringing and nurturing.
Their arguing drives me up a wall.
Their unannounced visits drive me up a wall.
My Dad ate all my nacho chips, for Christ's sake. Don't ask. I don't know.
I'm lucky to have them here... right?
Please tell me I'm right.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 03:24 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 03:27 AM (Ckg4U)
Please tell me I'm right.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 03:24 AM (Ckg4U)
You're lucky to have them here. Mine live 1300 miles away and they ain't getting no younger, my Dad looks older and older every time I see him.
Mom is going to live forever, but Dad...not so much...and it will be a sad day in the GGE-verse when that happens, cause my Dad is my hero and I want to be just like him when I grow up.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 03:27 AM (vbvxt)
They used to be in Britain but it looks like this show is filmed in the US.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 03:22 AM (vbvxt)
Anyone else remember a movie called The Wheeler Dealers? James Garner and Lee Remick? I like that movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 01, 2018 03:28 AM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 03:28 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 01, 2018 03:28 AM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 01, 2018 03:28 AM (ycWCI)
I think I do, but I can't remember if I've ever seen it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 03:29 AM (vbvxt)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, The Lethargic at February 01, 2018 03:30 AM (O+THj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 01, 2018 03:30 AM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 01, 2018 03:33 AM (ycWCI)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 03:35 AM (vbvxt)
Posted by: Alec Rawls at February 01, 2018 03:40 AM (AphMS)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2018 10:59 PM (IqV8l)
What could you salvage from that wreck, other than compost?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 03:40 AM (PTSvA)
Posted by: Skip #3rd times the charm at February 01, 2018 03:56 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, The Lethargic at February 01, 2018 03:56 AM (O+THj)
Posted by: Alec Rawls at February 01, 2018 04:01 AM (AphMS)
Posted by: Skip #3rd times the charm at February 01, 2018 04:02 AM (aC6Sd)
Asking for a soul brother.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2018 04:07 AM (H5rtT)
I went to the gym today for the first time I longer than I want to admit. I probably should have killed the membership but I felt like I'd be admitting defeat to the depression if I did, so a lot of wasted money. I couldn't do much of a workout before my body said, "If you stop now you may be able to drive home, otherwise I'm not making any promises." I feel better now but I'm wondering if that excuse for a workout is why I'm awake now.
Posted by: epobirs at February 01, 2018 04:10 AM (AJKgl)
Posted by: Skip #3rd times the charm at February 01, 2018 04:13 AM (aC6Sd)
I'm surprised how few people have never even heard of, let alone seen 'The President's Analyst'. I saw it as a kid in the 70s and was under the impression it had been much more influential in its 1967 release than it apparently really was. I was too young to understand much of it when I first saw it. At the time what struck me was the small role Pat Harrington had that was so clean cut compared to the TV character I knew.
Posted by: epobirs at February 01, 2018 04:17 AM (AJKgl)
wouldn't be too expensive to replace it with something with a lot more
storage and that's a lot newer. Anyway, any thoughts anyone here has are
appreciated. Thanks again.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 01, 2018 02:06 AM (eMKNe)
I'm guessing the George Michael infected Maxtor with Hard-drive Incompetency Virus. Kill it with fire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 04:18 AM (PTSvA)
Definitely replace. You can get a 1TB USB 3.0 for under $50 if you pay attention to sales. Get two and back one up to the other in case of future failures. It's just too damn cheap these days not to do that.
Posted by: epobirs at February 01, 2018 04:28 AM (AJKgl)
Posted by: Skip #3rd times the charm at February 01, 2018 04:41 AM (aC6Sd)
of, let alone seen 'The President's Analyst'. I saw it as a kid in the
70s and was under the impression it had been much more influential in
its 1967 release than it apparently really was. I was too young to
understand much of it when I first saw it. At the time what struck me
was the small role Pat Harrington had that was so clean cut compared to
the TV character I knew.
Posted by: epobirs at February 01, 2018 04:17 AM (AJKgl)
Barky had an anal-yst, too. Name of Reggie.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 04:41 AM (PTSvA)
fixed.
Posted by: BuddyPC at February 01, 2018 04:44 AM (+z0t8)
Posted by: jsg at February 01, 2018 04:47 AM (/FL4O)
I'm in the hotle at the |Virgin River Casino in Mesquite. Went into the game room, had a rum and coke, and lost $20 in some video slot. Done with that. Time for bed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 04:51 AM (PTSvA)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 04:52 AM (vbvxt)
Have a great day everyone
Posted by: Skip #3rd times the charm at February 01, 2018 04:52 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 04:54 AM (PTSvA)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 04:54 AM (PTSvA)
with electrical problems.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 04:54 AM (vbvxt)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 04:58 AM (PTSvA)
transmission from a '95 Lincoln Town car would fit in the engine bay of a
'66 Mustang?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2018 04:58 AM (PTSvA)
Anything can be done...but the question is, just because you can, should you?
https://tinyurl.com/y8k4kabe
The answer seems to be yes, but you have to cut the shock towers out and install a Mustang II front end.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 05:25 AM (vbvxt)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2018 05:29 AM (vbvxt)
--------------------------------------------------
They've been going with this all night. 3rd hand information that Hope Hicks "Could be contemplating obstructing justice"? By hiding e-mails that were made public months ago? This is journalism?
This is sort of like Trump committed a crime by thinking about firing Mueller but not doing it.
Let's pretend someone thought about doing something that may or may not be a crime and go after them for it!
Posted by: zmdavid at February 01, 2018 05:33 AM (xqRaG)
Let's pretend someone thought about doing something that may or may not be a crime and go after them for it!
Posted by: zmdavid at February 01, 2018 05:33 AM (xqRaG)
When I get my morning update email from the NYT, I'm sure they will make sure to say it might be a impeachable crime....
Posted by: Colin at February 01, 2018 05:48 AM (7+SX+)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 05:51 AM (Ckg4U)
Now, they (presumably the FBI) is leaking that the former press flack for Trumps legal team will say (so, someone is leaking about testimony that has been proffered but not actually taken) that Hope Hicks might have been contemplating a crime because she reportedly said on a conference call that Don Jr. emails, if such emails exist to the Russian lawyer chick would never get out.
This is how desperate they are, going after Hicks now in obvious hopes she knows something about her boss (DJT) and can testify to it. Mueller is despicable.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yceku9ke
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama Survivor at February 01, 2018 05:54 AM (ylUqT)
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 01, 2018 05:54 AM (BtQd4)
Imagine if we could prosecute Democrats for things we thought they might have wanted to do, but never did?
Posted by: zmdavid at February 01, 2018 05:56 AM (xqRaG)
-Posted by: rhennigantx at February 01, 2018 05:54 AM (BtQd4)
"Progressive"-?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 05:59 AM (Ckg4U)
The democrats requested a minor edit 'for clarity' and Nunes made the change, now the democrats claim that by making the changes the democrats requested, Nunes altered the document.
Neat trick, if you can get away with it.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, The Lethargic at February 01, 2018 06:02 AM (O+THj)
Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 01, 2018 06:03 AM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:04 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: fluffyBot at February 01, 2018 06:05 AM (cHbmY)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:05 AM (Ckg4U)
I saw your note on snow-thrower maintenance and your tire. I went around and checked the little tires around here. Thanks.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 01, 2018 06:06 AM (hyuyC)
-Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 01, 2018 06:03 AM (hyuyC)
Every day, Brother!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:07 AM (Ckg4U)
I'd have a great harvest of rocks, if I wanted to plow and not grow prairie.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 01, 2018 06:09 AM (hyuyC)
I am glad my little tale of woe was helpful. Those little tires have a stiff casing and they 'looked' ok until one developed a flat spot on the bottom.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, The Lethargic at February 01, 2018 06:09 AM (O+THj)
Posted by: J. Sessions-THere's One Born Every Minute at February 01, 2018 06:09 AM (r9UYA)
https://goo.gl/otMpAE
Posted by: Michael the Texan at February 01, 2018 06:11 AM (nvMvs)
Posted by: jsg at February 01, 2018 06:11 AM (/FL4O)
Posted by: Colin at February 01, 2018 06:12 AM (7+SX+)
Top of the morning to you. Always glad to see your nic.
The start of the ONT last night brought a smile. Sometimes ya got to be the plucky comic relief. Must be nice to star in so many memes.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 01, 2018 06:12 AM (hyuyC)
Posted by: jsg at February 01, 2018 06:12 AM (/FL4O)
I don't get the Modern Libertarian. At all.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 01, 2018 06:12 AM (fiGNd)
This is beyond stupid.
And how is this even news? Hasn't he always been trying to flip senior staffers?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama Survivor at February 01, 2018 06:14 AM (ylUqT)
Hey ONT horde, illegal immigrants be better than you!
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 01, 2018 06:14 AM (BtQd4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XJxFAoiWSY
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 05:51 AM (Ckg4U),
Love that song, Slap... Thanks for the time warp.
I've been down-hearted, baby...
Posted by: Gem at February 01, 2018 06:15 AM (XoAz8)
-Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 01, 2018 06:12 AM (hyuyC)
It is funny being silly.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:15 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:16 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: freaked at February 01, 2018 06:17 AM (UdKB7)
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 01, 2018 06:17 AM (BtQd4)
Posted by: ScoggDog
Modern Libertarian = 1968 hippie.
Legal weed, let people do what they want & don't harsh muh buzz.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2018 06:17 AM (AmeQT)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 01, 2018 06:18 AM (hyuyC)
Too good to check.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:19 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: freaked at February 01, 2018 06:20 AM (UdKB7)
-Posted by: rhennigantx at February 01, 2018 06:17 AM (BtQd4)
It was some sort of African Royalty Sash that Made Sure that we all knew that they were no longer Americans.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:21 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: ScoggDog
Modern Libertarian = 1968 hippie.
Legal weed, let people do what they want & don't harsh muh buzz.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2018 06:17 AM (AmeQT)
Well ... I'm for letting people do as they wish, whenever practical, as well.
Hence - you need borders. Because any Free and Open Society is going to be over-run by Ne'er-Do-Wells if you don't defend it - including by controlling access to it. And that includes defending said Society from Excessive Government.
Milton Freidman considered himself a Classical Liberal ... maybe I'm that. I dunno'.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 01, 2018 06:22 AM (fiGNd)
I say Give the Tenth Amendment a chance, Eradicate the Seventeenth Amendment, fuck your Wife and have a baby.
Fathers see things differently.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:29 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:31 AM (Ckg4U)
If they can't prove membership in the tribe that the sash represents, isn't that cultural appropriation?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2018 06:31 AM (AmeQT)
-Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2018 06:31 AM (AmeQT)
Therein lies the "rub".
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:32 AM (Ckg4U)
If it's good enough for Uncle Milty it's good enough for me.
Posted by: fluffyBot at February 01, 2018 06:33 AM (cHbmY)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 01, 2018 06:34 AM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:34 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:35 AM (Ckg4U)
Now, they (presumably the FBI) is leaking that the former press flack for Trumps legal team will say (so, someone is leaking about testimony that has been proffered but not actually taken) that Hope Hicks might have been contemplating a crime because she reportedly said on a conference call that Don Jr. emails, if such emails exist to the Russian lawyer chick would never get out.
This
is how desperate they are, going after Hicks now in obvious hopes she
knows something about her boss (DJT) and can testify to it. Mueller is
despicable.
.
.
.They have to try something to deflect attention from the FBI memo that is going to be released today.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 01, 2018 06:36 AM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:38 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:39 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 01, 2018 06:40 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 01, 2018 06:22 AM (fiGNd)
Milton said you can have open borders or a welfare state, but not both.
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 01, 2018 06:40 AM (BtQd4)
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 01, 2018 06:44 AM (BtQd4)
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 01, 2018 06:47 AM (BtQd4)
Posted by: wing at February 01, 2018 06:48 AM (RSMz4)
Moochelle with the Tiffany box when the met at the White House.
.
.
.What they failed to do is to check google because michelle obama did the exact same thing to Laura Bush at their first meeting.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 01, 2018 06:50 AM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Michael the Texan at February 01, 2018 06:59 AM (nvMvs)
I'm definitely going to queue up the 90s station on Accuradio at work today!
Posted by: Gem at February 01, 2018 07:00 AM (XoAz8)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 01, 2018 07:00 AM (hMwEB)
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My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)