Poll: Most Americans Want Less Immigration, Not More; The Number of Americans Who Want More Americans Is Barely Higher Than Those Who Want No Immigration Whatsoever

It seems the political establishment embarked on a campaign of transforming the nation through high levels of immigration (both legal and illegal), confident of the righteousness and popularity of their cause, without ever -- get this! -- bothering to ask the citizenry they allegedly represent about their feelings on the issue.

Eighty-one percent of Americans want one million or fewer legal immigrants to the United States per year, according to new polling data released Monday by the Harvard-Harris poll, a number lower than the 1.38 million who came to the United States in 2015.

The plurality of respondents, 35 percent, think that there should be between 1 and 250,000 legal immigrants arriving to the United States per year. A net 12 percent want to see immigration increased to 1.5 million people per year or more, while nine percent of Americans think that there should be no new legal immigrants.

Plurality preference for between 1 and 250,000 new immigrants a year persists across white, Hispanic, and black Americans, as well as moderates and self-identified Democrats. Such a rate of immigration would be lower even than the rate expected from the RAISE Act, a bill backed by the administration and expected to cut immigration in half in ten years.

There's a plurality of preference for between 1 (one!) and 250,000 legal immigrants per year, while the current rate is 1.38 million per year, and virtually all the Establishment plans (including, especially, nominal "Republican" Establishment plans) call for combating illegal immigration by simply jacking up legal immigration so much that there's less of a need at all to immigrate illegally.

They will continue ignoring the preferences of the public, and they will continue being baffled and butthurt that the public is in open revolt against them.

Oh, and maybe they'll explain away the public revolt by blaming it on RUSSIAN BOTS.

Posted by: Ace at 02:40 PM




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1 Hmm.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:41 PM (QQ+il)

2 uno

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 23, 2018 02:41 PM (N3JsI)

3 darn, bit slow

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 23, 2018 02:41 PM (N3JsI)

4 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2018 02:42 PM (4dbPD)

5 Hiatus Now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:42 PM (QQ+il)

6 Put me in the no immigration camp.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2018 02:42 PM (4dbPD)

7 Put me down for a fewer. About a million fewer.

Posted by: Bruce at January 23, 2018 02:42 PM (8ikIW)

8 A Russian bot made me sneak across the border.


Posted by: Dreamy Dreamer Wanting Free Shit at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (8iiMU)

9 The head of the Chamber of Commerce should be brought up on sedition charges.

Posted by: Under Fire at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (r9UYA)

10 Again with Russian Bots. What is up with that? Was someone seriously saying that is an issue?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (eytER)

11 Put me in the Only Hot Chicks Can Immigrate column.


No Fatties.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (wxck1)

12 If only I had RUSSIAN BOTS to blame back when I was in college.

Posted by: Blutarsky at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (t41dG)

13 No Fatties.


*snort*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (QQ+il)

14
I mentioned this morning the USA population has doubled in my lifetime. At some point in time the 'NO VACANCY' sign needs to be put out.

Posted by: Acme Russian Bots For Hire at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (2FqvZ)

15 Ivan #5 is alive?

Posted by: Ivan #5 at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (wxck1)

16 5 year moratorium please.

Posted by: nip at January 23, 2018 02:44 PM (ECLaL)

17 This is not surprising at all, but the MSM just loves to point over and over again to polls on immigration questions that mean nothing like do you favor "comprehensive reform"?

Most respondents probably think "comprehensive reform" means "doing something" about all the illegals coming in.

Not to be all Eeyore, but a big part of me thinks its too late and the Republicans should have figured this out in like the early 90s when people like Pat Buchanan and Pete Wilson were sounding the alarm.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2018 02:44 PM (lKmt3)

18 We won a two front World War with 140 million Native Born Americans. We don't need any more imported knockoffs.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:45 PM (QQ+il)

19 Just imagine the American economy with no illegal alien labor and only 5-10% of the current number of H1-B visas?

The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner--but, hey, it's cheap and DIVERSITY SQUEE!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at January 23, 2018 02:45 PM (kXoT0)

20 >>11
Put me in the Only Hot Chicks Can Immigrate column.





No Fatties.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 02:43 PM (wxck1)<<

Way ahead of you. When I lived in the dorms in college, we would put a 4x4 up in the middle of the door frame that led to our floor. If the girl had to turn sideways, no entry. It was our form of border control.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 23, 2018 02:46 PM (sjdRT)

21 I'm with nip. Let's take a break and promote english as the spoken language of the land for a while

Posted by: DanMan at January 23, 2018 02:46 PM (XTiHL)

22 Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2018 02:44 PM (

Pat Buchanan not the best person to be your alarm.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 02:46 PM (zoyKY)

23 Pro-immigration citizens (often including me, depending on the issue) have invited this backlash. Acting like Democrats and making this a moral test is just disgusting. And pushing for unfettered immigration at all costs (high crime, for example) just destroys the pro-immigration argument.

If even once the Congress had followed through on border control/security, and if even once the Congress had taken into consideration the poor employment prospects for most Americans under Obama, there would be broader support today for immigration.


Posted by: Huck Follywood, Bacon afficiando at January 23, 2018 02:46 PM (LISuA)

24 A modest proposal: for every immigrant allowed in, we deport one liberal already here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (FLuaE)

25 Pat Buchanan not the best person to be your alarm.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 02:46 PM (zoyKY)

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Much better than a non-existent one.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (5NMZN)

26 *Presses 1*

Posted by: jsg at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (gs8be)

27 Pat Buchanan not the best person to be your alarm.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 02:46 PM (zoyKY)


Doesn't matter. He was right.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (E7zwb)

28 Zero immigrants til we know how many are here in the first place.. Ive heard 11 million forever... But its way more im sure..

Posted by: me at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (e7k9E)

29 Oh they figure they will just add as many as it takes to make "open floodgates" the more popular decision.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (SzZnW)

30 Immigration freeze until we cull the illegals.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (NWiLs)

31 While I consider all polls to be schmolly (even ones that confirm what I suspect or hope to be true), you can rely on the left pivoting from "this is what the people want, you undemocratic oppressors!" to "we have to do what is right, not what the bigoted mob demands!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (39g3+)

32 Put me into Zero column and the deport all the existing illegals as well category. Secure the border and deport as many illegals at the same time. Only then do we resume low levels of LEGAL merit based immigration.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (0OmEj)

33 >>24
A modest proposal: for every immigrant allowed in, we deport one liberal already here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:47 PM (FLuaE)<<

To extend your modest proposal, may I suggest Chain Deportation for their extended family as well?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (sjdRT)

34 The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner--but, hey, it's cheap and DIVERSITY SQUEE!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil
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You forgot to mention we get to train them too! And then get lectured too from a 25 yo Raj who knows the job/corporate culture oh so much better than you.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (sBm2i)

35 This is lovely.. and from the little temper tantrum Schemer and his boys pulled over the weekend, we can see the Dems have learned absolutely nothing from 2016 elections.. fine.. The mid-terms were never going to be easy.. But if the Dems keep it up, maybe it won't be so bad at all..

I am especially looking forward to several Red State Dems losing their Senate seats..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (so+oy)

36 Not to be all Eeyore, but a big part of me thinks its too late and the Republicans should have figured this out in like the early 90s when people like Pat Buchanan and Pete Wilson were sounding the alarm.
Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2018 02:44 PM (lKmt3)




And Pete Wilson was, in so many ways, a RINO. But he understood reality, and the goo-goo for globalists did not and still do not. Jack Kemp, mercy on his soul, was denouncing Wilson, and so was much of the GOP (not properly called GOPee yet back then)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (ujg0T)

37 I would agree to more immigration under the condition they have to remain permanent residents of California.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (zoyKY)

38 If you need to push "8" on the phone to have a conversation, you need to go home.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (NXsWM)

39 One. Immigrant.

So it better be a damn good one.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (ul9CR)

40 Do we give Visas to people from Countries that have no Extradition Treaties with us?


Because, if we do we are retarded.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (wxck1)

41 And yet we're supposed to believe that over 80% want amnesty for the "Dreamers"

Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (7HtZB)

42 I think that for at least a short time -- five years maybe -- halting immigration entirely while we clean house and restructure law enforcement and state behavior (ie end sanctuary status, etc) would probably be a wise move.

I still can't figure out how the same people who swear up and down we're overpopulated and doomed think we need more and more people. I can't square that circle.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)

43 How much "merit based" immigration do we need? When people say that, they're talking about computer programmers not Nobel Prize winners.

Zero out H1b altogether.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (QQ+il)

44 I guarantee that 90% of the LIVs (dems and others) have no idea what our current rate of legal immigration is right now.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (F5+ro)

45 There should be a 40 year moratorium on legal immigration until all those that have come here since Ted the Swimmer opening of the gtes are assimilated. This is the first time I know of where immigrants coming in have no interest in assimilation. Could that be because unlike the European wave in the early 1900s we have welfare now and we are getting illiterate leeches?


IIANM in immigrants are ineligible for welfare unless they are give a waiver by HUD. That was virtually automatic with the choom.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (mpXpK)

46 38 If you need to push "8" on the phone to have a conversation, you need to go home.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (NXsWM)

Para continuar en Espanol, oprima numero dos.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (NWiLs)

47 18 We won a two front World War with 140 million Native Born Americans. We don't need any more imported knockoffs.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:45 PM (QQ+il)



In fairness, from about the End Of Reconstruction to 1921 there was a floodtide of immigration.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (ujg0T)

48 It takes a democrat to argue earnestly that overpopulation is a huge threat AND we need open borders.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 23, 2018 02:50 PM (SzZnW)

49 Every day is a Chamber of Commerce day in DC.

Posted by: Lindsey "Soft Lips" Grahams at January 23, 2018 02:50 PM (xqfqx)

50 OK, the joke is in and I'm out.

Bummer.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at January 23, 2018 02:50 PM (eytER)

51 37 I would agree to more immigration under the condition they have to remain permanent residents of California.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (zoyKY)



NO!!! Bite your tongue! Send 'em to Minnesota, so they can shoot unarmed Australian chicks in their nighties.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:50 PM (FLuaE)

52 That 1 per year is attractive.

Posted by: socalcon at January 23, 2018 02:50 PM (fUyXF)

53 I still can't figure out how the same people who swear up and down we're overpopulated and doomed think we need more and more people. I can't square that circle.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)

Same folks who simultaneously think we have a childhood obesity crisis and that 3 out of 5 children go to bed hungry in this country.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 23, 2018 02:50 PM (NXsWM)

54 1 immigrant to rule them all.

Posted by: Monk at January 23, 2018 02:50 PM (g4lFK)

55 What we don't need are more RUSSIAN BOTS!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (NWiLs)

56 >>> The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner--but, hey, it's cheap and DIVERSITY SQUEE!

I don't want zero immigration, I want a negative flow for a few years.

Posted by: fluffy at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (cHbmY)

57 It is not just immigration that is a problem, it is who is coming from where. Can anyone give me a rational reason why we need a single Uzbek immigrant? Anyone? Any skills they offer we don't have in abundance? If you can't, then why oh why do we have the visa lottery system?

Posted by: Dean Wormer at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (fftfA)

58 43 How much "merit based" immigration do we need? When people say that, they're talking about computer programmers not Nobel Prize winners.

Zero out H1b altogether.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (QQ+il)


And why exactly do computer programmers need to be here at all? Microsoft et al. have heard of the Internet, right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (FLuaE)

59 And yet we're supposed to believe that over 80% want amnesty for the "Dreamers"

Yeah either at least one of these polls is wrong, or the people being polled are idiots. Or both.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (39g3+)

60 You know who else was an immigrant?

Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (7HtZB)

61 I had a horde of Italian-born great uncles who fought in WWII.

One came home with one leg. Another was gutshot, but survived, miraculously.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (ul9CR)

62 Since we don't bother enforcing our laws...

We should pass a law that requires forced sterilization for all Illegal Aliens aprehended in the US.

People will be outraged.

You can't buy press like that.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (wxck1)

63 Global warming can lead to cooling.

People wanting less immigration means we should have more... a lot more.

The science is settled.

Posted by: MFM, Dems, #NeverTrumpers, Chamber of Commerce, etc, etc at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (6DDWJ)

64 250,000 legal immigrants per year
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That seems like a number we could live with, once all the illegals have been removed.

Posted by: Methos at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (XQvuQ)

65 "I am especially looking forward to several Red State Dems losing their Senate seats."

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They will not learn until they have only 39 senators in congress and become irrelevant to any discussion.

Among the 39 I count Lindsay Graham, Murkowski and that woman from Maine.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (/3+Sg)

66 Pat Buchanan not the best person to be your alarm.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol

________

I think the knocks against him were over stated.

Pat Buchanan was basically Trump 1.0, and the GOP-E ran him out on a rail for (wait for it) being a racist.

Same playbook they did against Trump.

I'm sure the man said a few dumb things (so did Trump) but he was hardly David Duke.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (lKmt3)

67
The whole thought process of the elitist politicos is that if they can't rule the majority, then replace the majority.

Problem of course by second generation, they find a place so nice those immigrants then think twice. They already left a shithole.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (r+sAi)

68 "Immigration" has long been a touchstone for the illiterati, to the point that the distinction between illegal and legal has long dissolved.

Jeb! and his ilk (your High School's "model UN" crowd, student body politics, etc.) today earnestly believe that all unchecked immigration is a good thing, but amazingly enough cannot give a reason why it is a good thing...

It's become a religion...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (7LY+6)

69 One of the major problems I have with Cruz is his embrace of H1B1 visas.

Oh yay I wanted to bitch about this!

So. CNN puts this headline on a story: This Michigan doctor was five years old when his parents fled Poland. Now, his family fears he faces deportation to a country he's never known.

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/955784849041838080


You're obviously supposed to assume he's a Dreamer, right?

This is why you read the story. The family came over legally, he's a green card holder and it's a bit sketchy as to why, exactly, he's being held but it appears that he has criminal convictions in his past. The story focuses on some incidents from 1992 but he had a DUI in 2008 and he's had 20 traffic infractions between 1997 and 2017. The statement from ICE refers to 18 encounters with local law enforcement.

Guess what? It has been ever so that until you are a naturalized citizen, your legal resident status can be revoked for criminal convictions.

There's nothing about that story that's actually, you know, a story other than CNN wanting to put doctor in in headline to make you associate Dreamers with that guy.

*throws things*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. With drink holders. Hopping all around. at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (mf5HN)

70 52 That 1 per year is attractive.

It would be the best. immigrant. ever.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (ul9CR)

71 That 1 per year is attractive.

Ah, how sweet.

Posted by: Melania at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (XkVXQ)

72 I had a horde of Italian-born great uncles who fought in WWII.

On which side?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (QQ+il)

73 Can anyone give me a rational reason why we need a single Uzbek immigrant?


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Milana Vayntrub. That's two reasons.

Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (7HtZB)

74
In fairness, my parents and late grandparents told me of a time when the traditional culture seemed to be under attack from waves of "Yids, Polaks and various other -skis, Eyetalian Mobsters, and on the west coast, Chinamen."

BUT--back then we believed in assimilating and later integrating them all. The public schools back then explicitly wanted to do that, and when the South balked, we even changed that too. No longer, sadly. It is re-segregation now.

AND--From 1921 to 1965, we realized we had overdone the immigration thing, so we closed the floodgates. Then Ted Kennedy (is there nothing awful he did not do?) worked to open them again. Just at a time when African Americans were finally integrating. And guess what happened to their upward mobility?

In 2018??? Time to close them again!

And I say this as a guy who married Asian immigrant brides. That may have been because femicommunism made the White women into dykes from hell, but more on that in another post.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (ujg0T)

75 Put me down for none. Take a decade or so off for assimilation with exceptions for military service and marriage to citizens.

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (4Hf9E)

76 Same folks who simultaneously think we have a childhood obesity crisis and that 3 out of 5 children go to bed hungry in this country.

LOL, yeah basically Or that all men are rapists but are perfectly safe in your daughter's changing room at the swimming poll if they put on a dress.

Can anyone give me a rational reason why we need a single Uzbek immigrant?

I don't care where they come from, I care who they are and what they add to our country. The location is irrelevant to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (39g3+)

77 Can we call them what they are ? Democrat voters.

Posted by: jsg at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (gs8be)

78 I am Russian Bot

Posted by: Tony Curtis at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (rfC2s)

79 If I had to chose between the unfettered immigration and amnesty we have now or no immigration can I abstain until there is a third option?

You know, secure borders and repatriation of people who slip in under the wire. And everyone goes through Ellis Island for a medical check and signed form that they have sponsors who can foot their bill and not be wards of the state. Just like the Statue of Liberty says.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (ymnmz)

80 The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner--but, hey, it's cheap and DIVERSITY SQUEE!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil
..............
I had to deal with one of these over the phone last year.. un-fucking-believable.. not only did he not know his ass from a whole in the ground, I could only understand about one in ten words he was saying because his Indian accent was so thick..

The stupid fucker was calling because our clients (we do software) were complaining it was running very slowly.. These are programs doing very intensive database accesses.. The doofus had them connecting across country over a VPN with about a 50 ms ping.. fine for saving a Word doc.. nowhere near fine for database intensive applications.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (so+oy)

81 57 It is not just immigration that is a problem, it is who is coming from where. Can anyone give me a rational reason why we need a single Uzbek immigrant? Anyone? Any skills they offer we don't have in abundance? If you can't, then why oh why do we have the visa lottery system?
Posted by: Dean Wormer at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (fftfA)


My bete noire is Somalia. Why in God's name would we want uneducated, illiterate (in any language), totally unemployable Muslims from what is by anyone's standards a shithole? I would be surprised if "Somalia" means "shithole" in whatever language they speak there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (FLuaE)

82 That's cute. As if the government really gives a flying fuck what the people want.

Posted by: Sponge at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (xttKs)

83
I've been called a Russian Bot multiple times now in the Twitterverse. It must be the new talking point among the elites in the democrat party.



The rank and file leftist is following suit with their usual ideological zeal in calling everything that expresses an opinion a Russian Bot.



There shall be no thought allowed outside of leftist groupthink. Let it be written, let it be done.

Posted by: Charles Martel (thought leader) at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (onMT/)

84 would NOT be surprised

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (FLuaE)

85 Posted by: Dean Wormer at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (fftfA)

You would not believe the demand for Uzbekian translators.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 02:54 PM (zoyKY)

86 And yet we're supposed to believe that over 80% want amnesty for the "Dreamers"
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And those of us who don't are totes crazypants

Posted by: Methos at January 23, 2018 02:54 PM (XQvuQ)

87 I guarantee that 90% of the LIVs (dems and others) have no idea what our current rate of legal immigration is right now.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

________

They have no idea we are letting in more people than an entire state, every single year.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2018 02:54 PM (lKmt3)

88 On which side?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (QQ+il)

No need for the snark when you're discussing my relatives who paid a price for fighting for their new country by coming home maimed. Jeez.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2018 02:54 PM (ul9CR)

89 That 1 per year is attractive.

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Maybe she can be a future wife of Trump.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 23, 2018 02:54 PM (5NMZN)

90 Think I'll open the lonely Russian women page and buy one before the legal supply is closed.
Too expensive to have them smuggled through the Mexican border.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 23, 2018 02:54 PM (e1mEI)

91
The plurality of respondents, 35 percent, think that there should be between 1 and 250,000 legal immigrants arriving to the United States per year... while nine percent of Americans think that there should be no new legal immigrants.

People holding this view are doubleplus ungood. Their "opinions" can safely be disregarded as they aren't real people anyway.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 23, 2018 02:54 PM (BWL+E)

92 I saw Russian Bots open for Pussy Riot at Ruszklokov in '08.

Posted by: Sponge at January 23, 2018 02:54 PM (xttKs)

93
Always been a fan of Pat Buchanan in regards to trade and immigration issues. He hits the nail on the head every time.

Posted by: Acme Russian Bots For Hire at January 23, 2018 02:55 PM (2FqvZ)

94 43 How much "merit based" immigration do we need? When people say that, they're talking about computer programmers not Nobel Prize winners.

Zero out H1b altogether.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (QQ+il)

Right. And people from India are at an unfair advantage in that their schooling is cheap as fuck, they dont owe 6 figures in student loan debt at 22 years old. Their books are cheap, etc.

The culture of cheating on tests is widespread throughout most of the world, and by all accounts, college in India (and China for that matter) is much much easier than in the US and consists almost entirely of memorizing a book and vomiting it back on a test (again, and cheating is rampant).

So, uh, how does that help us as a country to send every kid to college to wrack up incredible debt, then say "sorry, no job for you, Raj is willing to work for cheaper" once they graduate?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2018 02:55 PM (F5+ro)

95 I have been pounding on this point through all the polls that have insisted that Americans just love us some illegal immigrants and want to amnesty the heck out of them... revealed preferences have for over a decade made it clear that Americans don't want more immigration and that illegal immigration is just barely less tolerable than the legal kind. If that were not true, politicians who have strong preferences for allowing unchecked immigration would have passed bills to do so long ago. Instead, they rightfully treat immigration bills like live electrical wires that will kill them (electorally) even as they call us racist in an effort to shame us into their position.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 23, 2018 02:55 PM (geAkB)

96 Ace is a Russian bot. A really, really furry Russian bot.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 23, 2018 02:55 PM (gCJeK)

97 Remember the good old days when Oprah was running for president?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Lefties must felt good for a day.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (ymnmz)

98 I'm good with between 5 and 10 immigrants per year..

Posted by: Mega at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (VY0PM)

99 I've been called a Russian Bot multiple times now in the Twitterverse. It must be the new talking point among the elites in the democrat party.

==

apparently ppl are getting emails from twitter saying "did you know you retweeted a russian propaganda account"

pathetic

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (hMwEB)

100
Obviously American citizens are outliers and not within the mainstream of republican thought on immigration

Posted by: Miss Lindsey at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (lKyWE)

101 How many are on the Swedish Bikini Team?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (QQ+il)

102 A Russian bot turned me into a newt!


[Long pause]

I got better.


It seems the political establishment embarked on a campaign of transforming the nation through high levels of immigration (both legal and illegal), confident of the righteousness and popularity of their cause, without ever -- get this! -- bothering to ask the citizenry they allegedly represent about their feelings on the issue.

Yes, one might even conclude that they have some other master besides the people. But that would be paranoia.

Posted by: joncelli, going phalangist at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (RD7QR)

103 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. With drink holders. Hopping all around. at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (mf5HN)
==================


AtC, you're going to have to decide once and for all; are you becoming the ombudsman at CNN, the Director of the FBI or the Grand Inquisitor of the DOJ? You're highly capable, obviously, but it'll be hard to do all three simultaneously.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Bacon afficiando at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (LISuA)

104 In fairness, from about the End Of Reconstruction to 1921 there was a floodtide of immigration.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 02:49 PM (ujg0T)

Yes, and they and their children and their grandchildren built the industrial and scientific juggernaut that won that two front war, and fought and died in it to boot.

So, if by "fairness" you mean we should restrict some moderate amount of immigration to the countries that have already demonstrated that their natives can be worth a damn, then I will consider it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (wYseH)

105 99 I've been called a Russian Bot multiple times now in the Twitterverse. It must be the new talking point among the elites in the democrat party.

==

apparently ppl are getting emails from twitter saying "did you know you retweeted a russian propaganda account"

pathetic
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (hMwEB)

That's in the sidebar link for comic artist Ethan Van Sciver

Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (7HtZB)

106 I am only a second generation born American. I am close to calling for my deportation the situation is so bad.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (zoyKY)

107 We should definitely base our immigration policy based upon commercial needs. We're F*cking Capitalists, so check with business, especially businesses that matter to our national defense and to our stock markets, and bring those folks on down! We need to be driven by needs, not emotion, because, as you all know, the whole world hates us.

Posted by: goon at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (EaQ6/)

108 Julian Assange @TheRealJuIian

#JamesComey @Comey has retained the services of criminal defense team #AlboOblon in anticipation of impending @wikileaks release of 50,000 'deleted' text messages, which will prove collusion between the @DNC and @FBI beyond a reasonable doubt. #Lordy #LighteningCrashes #TickTock

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (e8kgV)

109 >> I am Russian Bot


CCCP3.0

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (wxck1)

110 I want negative immigration. No more immigrants and force out leftist fucks into the shitholes of the world. Was that an option on the poll? Ask that and see what the percentage is.

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (gcH/9)

111 And yet we're supposed to believe that over 80% want amnesty for the "Dreamers"
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Probably more like 80% of the 12% right but that's math and math is B-A-D and has no home here.. /sarc

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (8SR1L)

112 I've been called a Russian Bot multiple times now in the Twitterverse. It must be the new talking point among the elites in the democrat party.

Yeah I have too. And I got that letter about followers who are potentially maybe Russian bot accounts. Not sure if that was really from Twitter or not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (39g3+)

113 Legal immigrants can come, with the stipulation that they must pay for a random homeless person to be sent back to where they lived because I'm basically sick of them, too. AND immigrants all have to stay home and shut up. FFS don't drive anywhere

Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (5jA8P)

114 I want a screeching halt to all immigration for awhile, and to repeal Kennedy's immigtation act that has helped ruined things.

We need a re-set for the country, where we follow laws again. And science. Not feelz & utopian wet dreams. B/c I really feel like we have lost our grip on reality.

Now, if there are any really cute men with great accents that I want to date, they can visit for a while. But that is it.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (k2yk7)

115 You forgot to mention we get to train them too! And then get lectured too from a 25 yo Raj who knows the job/corporate culture oh so much better than you.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2018 02:48 PM (sBm2i)

Yeah, that part is delightful. I just loved reading code written by someone with NO English at all.

In one of the more doomed projects in which I participated, our Sainted Wise Management outsourced a large chunk of code rewrite to Romania because they could do it just as well and far cheaper. Code was delivered. It was completely incomprehensible. We had turn-over training given by two guys from Eastern Europe. One spoke only Romanian, and the to other was his interpreter who was Czech. We would ask a question and the Czech guy would ask the Romanian the question. The Romanian would speak for about 5 minutes and then the Czech would turn to us and say Yes or No or a shrug. The code was never implemented--so just how damn cheap was it?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (kXoT0)

116 Versailles on the Potomac really is begging for a 14th of July event.

They are like guys who think "No" means "Sure!" They are all Ted Kennedys who really are asking to encounter Thelma and Louise. Or Eileen Wournos.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (Xq/2B)

117 Tell you what Politicians, we can resume immigration when every school district, urban or rural, has 80% of 12th graders reading and doing math at a 12th grade level, without changing the standards.

You refuse to perform the most basic services for the people that are here already.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (tMFgx)

118 What with the decline of the Russian navy, I can't imagine Russian Boats being an issue at all. They just don't have the support they used to, and most of the submarine pens are either closed or so rundown they might as well be closed.

Sure they can field a few boats, but nothing on the scale that would turn anything.


So let's stop using Russian boats as a boogeyman.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (eytER)

119 109 >> I am Russian Bot


CCCP3.0
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (wxck1)

Good one!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (NWiLs)

120 Put me down for none. Take a decade or so off for assimilation with exceptions for military service and marriage to citizens.
Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (4Hf9E)

I could be seen getting on this train.

Posted by: IP at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (/fNs2)

121 And yet somehow the compromise will be that we'll get more immigration.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (OJXf7)

122 "Jeb! and his ilk (your High School's "model UN"
crowd, student body politics, etc.) today earnestly believe that all
unchecked immigration is a good thing, but amazingly enough cannot give a
reason why it is a good thing...

Posted by: Anon"

Immigration is good because it increases diversity, which we all know is good. (Just don't ask for a reason why, hater.)

Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (MxEKc)

123 I'd hire a Russian Bot! They know how to get stuff done, without a lot of whining.

Posted by: goon at January 23, 2018 02:59 PM (EaQ6/)

124 68
"Immigration" has long been a touchstone for the illiterati, to the
point that the distinction between illegal and legal has long dissolved.




Jeb! and his ilk (your High School's "model UN" crowd, student body
politics, etc.) today earnestly believe that all unchecked immigration
is a good thing, but amazingly enough cannot give a reason why it is a
good thing...



It's become a religion...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (7LY+6)


Or the even more obscuring description "Migrants".

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2018 02:59 PM (ymnmz)

125 How many people have their own illlegal horror story? Friends w 30 year old who lost a leg to a DREAMer eligible, drunk driver. IMO, that colors your perception of legal immigrant ion, too.

Posted by: Ever at January 23, 2018 02:59 PM (OLS0m)

126 120 Put me down for none. Take a decade or so off for assimilation with exceptions for military service and marriage to citizens.
Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (4Hf9E)
I could be seen getting on this train.
Posted by: IP at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (/fNs2)

You know who put people on trains?

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 23, 2018 02:59 PM (NWiLs)

127 My son is an immigrant from Guatemala. He came here legally, after about 18 months of paperwork, ass-kissing and "fees" to the tune of $36K. I was fingerprinted three times (as if my fingerprints were going to change, or something) because you have to do that every six months. He was six months old when he came home.

This is how it is done. The US had a reasonable assumption that, being adopted by fine, upstanding American citizens, the kid would properly assimilate and become a fine, upstanding American citizen. And so far that is absolutely true.

We have no reason to believe that will happen with any legal immigrants who come here as adults, and none whatsoever for illegals. So why let any of them in or stay?

If I see one more Mexican flag flying where Old Glory should be.....

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 23, 2018 02:59 PM (NXsWM)

128 Same folks who simultaneously think we have a childhood obesity crisis and that 3 out of 5 children go to bed hungry in this country.
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yep, bugs the crap outta me every time I hear that non-sense... it's str8 BS and would love to know where in the ass they are pulling these numbers from but how they are calculating them. Ugh

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at January 23, 2018 03:00 PM (8SR1L)

129 I am Russian Bot


CCCP3.0
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (wxck1)

Good one!
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (NWiLs)

Yes finally something besides croc jokes.

I keed I keed.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 03:00 PM (zoyKY)

130 I think we should only let in Russian Sexbots that Sarah Palin can see from her house.

Posted by: Fritz at January 23, 2018 03:00 PM (2Mnv1)

131 Eileen Wournos...would not hit!

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2018 03:00 PM (+lOpA)

132 Immigration is good because it increases diversity, which we all know is good. (Just don't ask for a reason why, hater.)
Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (MxEKc)


Ask the Yugoslavs and the Rwandans about how good diversity is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:00 PM (FLuaE)

133
#JamesComey @Comey has retained the services of
criminal defense team #AlboOblon in anticipation of impending @wikileaks
release of 50,000 'deleted' text messages, which will prove collusion
between the @DNC and @FBI beyond a reasonable doubt. #Lordy
#LighteningCrashes #TickTock


Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (e8kgV)
===================Oooh, the FBI won't like that one day after they lose some text messages Wikileaks shows up with copies in hand.

CNN and MSDNC will cite this very tweet as evidence of Russian collusion. I bet Mueller expands his alien probe of the Trump campaign now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Bacon afficiando at January 23, 2018 03:00 PM (LISuA)

134 AtC, you're going to have to decide once and for all; are you becoming
the ombudsman at CNN, the Director of the FBI or the Grand Inquisitor of
the DOJ? You're highly capable, obviously, but it'll be hard to do all
three simultaneously.
---
If I may suggest, summary executions should be adequate to keep the local systems in line.

Posted by: Methos' entry in the Suggestions file at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (XQvuQ)

135 "If even once the Congress had followed through on border control/security, and if even once the Congress had taken into consideration the poor employment prospects for most Americans under Obama, there would be broader support today for immigration."

You got that right. My parents were legal immigrants. Came here with nothing. They waited 3 years to get their green card. Worked their asses off their whole lives. Spoke English, and insisted their kids do likewise. Never described themselves as hyphenated-american, always 100% american from day 1.

I am 100% in favor of legal immigration. And 100% opposed to illegal immigration, who screws over the people waiting in line to get in. I also want us to make rational choices regarding immigrant - who and what would work best for America?

And the fact that I, son of immigrants, a person solidly in favor of legal immigration, gets trashed by the dems, is absolutely disgusting. It makes me in favor of saying fuck it - no more. If you can't accept rational limits, a rational system, then you get nothing.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (fftfA)

136 Yes, and they and their children and their grandchildren built the industrial and scientific juggernaut that won that two front war, and fought and died in it to boot.

So, if by "fairness" you mean we should restrict some moderate amount of immigration to the countries that have already demonstrated that their natives can be worth a damn, then I will consider it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (wYseH)



No disagreement there! Have you not read my posts?

Moreover, from "Paddy Wagons" to the "Mafia" to the "Frankfurt School" (often Jewish) Marxists to the "German American Bund", there were still lots of bad apples in that previous wave of mass immigration too.

As of 1940, IIRC, more than 1/4 of Americans were immigrants or "2nd Generation" children thereof.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (ujg0T)

137 TRUMP SAID DOODY

Posted by: Mega at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (VY0PM)

138 >>>while nine percent of Americans think that there should be no new legal immigrants.

i like these people

Posted by: concrete girl at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (C6eZV)

139 Berserker, Robert, and other metal heads - -

buff.ly/2mWghrg

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (99cKh)

140 "The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner--but, hey, it's cheap and DIVERSITY SQUEE!"

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As recently as ten years ago the IT industry was employing all new graduates. Since then H1-B has priced Americans out, even the ones who were highly skilled. And that is just one example. Other industries are construction, farm work, hospitality etc.

There are no entry level jobs left because illegal entries have hoovered them up.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (/3+Sg)

141
How many people have their own illlegal horror story?
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everyone who lives in SoCal, for starters.

hell, ALL of #Failifornia is an illegal horror story.


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (TQ41L)

142 How many Japanese 'Bots do Americans want?

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (HgMAr)

143 Tell you what, send everyone who came in illegally already home, cancel the H1B program, then we can talk numbers.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (7ZVPa)

144 Powered by Russian Minks 0.7 Alpha

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (6DDWJ)

145 >>>Oooh, the FBI won't like that one day after they lose some text messages Wikileaks shows up with copies in hand.

Parody account.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (nJuW/)

146 128 Same folks who simultaneously think we have a childhood obesity crisis and that 3 out of 5 children go to bed hungry in this country.
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yep, bugs the crap outta me every time I hear that non-sense... it's str8 BS and would love to know where in the ass they are pulling these numbers from but how they are calculating them. Ugh
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at January 23, 2018 03:00 PM (8SR1L)


Ask a proctologist where they're pulling the numbers from.

The "hunger in America" thing drives me wild. We have an obesity problem, not a hunger problem. When is the last time you saw someone who looked malnourished? (Supermodels don't count.) It's total crap.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (FLuaE)

147 I always keep in mind there are very few in Congress on our side. Most would rather slit you throat then keep out an illegal.

Posted by: Under Fire at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (r9UYA)

148 NO BENEFITS.

Posted by: That's all I got to say (for now) at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (CjE8v)

149 "The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner--but, hey, it's cheap and DIVERSITY SQUEE!"
--

It isn't just IT. Look at any outplacement firm, and see who their customers are. 50+ outnumber younger job seekers by 8 to 1.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 23, 2018 03:03 PM (7ZVPa)

150 83


I've been called a Russian Bot multiple times now in the
Twitterverse. It must be the new talking point among the elites in the
democrat party.







The rank and file leftist is following suit with their usual
ideological zeal in calling everything that expresses an opinion a
Russian Bot.







There shall be no thought allowed outside of leftist groupthink. Let it be written, let it be done.

Posted by: Charles Martel (thought leader) at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (onMT/)


When did lefties turn into General Minderbender or whoever the F that was that was worried about the Rooskies in catch 22?

The lefties turned into Archie Bunker on the Commies so fast I never saw it coming. Its weird. I wonder how it makes them feel?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2018 03:03 PM (ymnmz)

151 I, for one, welcome our Russian Bot overlords.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 23, 2018 03:03 PM (A3b6q)

152 Immigration is good because it increases diversity, which we all know is good. (Just don't ask for a reason why, hater.)

My office is having Diversity Week this week - the idea is that people from HR will answer questions about various support groups within the company to help "diverse" people integrate and succeed.

I'm half tempted to go ask what support groups exist for the old white guys.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at January 23, 2018 03:03 PM (eytER)

153 This immigrant invasion is changing the complexion of the country (yes, pun fucking intended) and is all due to Ted Kennedy's malevolent subterfuge in his Immigration Reform Act of 1965. What an ungrateful, malevolent bastard and curses on his progeny and all his family.


His excuses that it wouldn't change the demographics of the country were a calculated lie. He, along with his fellow traitors in the Democrat Party, decided that they would destroy the greatest country the world had ever seen for nothing more than personal political gain. Out of spite and malice because they couldn't mind-fuck enough citizens to go along with their collectivist transformation of the country.


Fuck them all.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (UThOJ)

154 My son is an immigrant from Guatemala. He came here legally, after about
18 months of paperwork, ass-kissing and "fees" to the tune of $36K. I
was fingerprinted three times (as if my fingerprints were going to
change, or something) because you have to do that every six months. He
was six months old when he came home.

=============

This great story, heartwarming as it is, chaps my ass a little bit. The people who go by the book pay through the nose and deal with the bureaucratic nightmare immigration system while the illegals hang out waiting for amnesty. One is easy, the other hard. Which is which is the reverse of what ought to be true.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Bacon afficiando at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (LISuA)

155 How many people have their own illlegal horror story?
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everyone who lives in SoCal, for starters.


You'd think ICE would just sweep parking lots of Home Depots periodically. Once a month would do; just spread uncertainty and anxiety among illegals hanging out there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (FLuaE)

156 Take a decade or so off for assimilation with exceptions for military service and marriage to citizens.

+++

Decade isn't anywhere near long enough. And assimilation is actually a farce. Look at how many Irish have been here for a century and they still reflexively support Ireland, Irish pols, attend clan events, etc. They maintain themselves apart, and so will the new immigrants.

Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (5jA8P)

157 I wouldn't say they mistakenly thought they had public support for amnesty, etc.

They just thought they could do as they please, the citizenry be damned.

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (Vl5bQ)

158 The lefties turned into Archie Bunker on the Commies so fast I never saw it coming. Its weird. I wonder how it makes them feel?

They learned to hate the Russians only after they officially dumped Communism.

I love the definition of Russian Bot that Twitter gives: loosely at some level connected to Russia, or posts things that are pro-Russian.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)

159 No imports of Finnish metal!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (nJuW/)

160
I'm not a big fan of importing the 'best and the brightest' from shithole countries. Who then is left behind in those countries?

Let 'em in, then chase 'em out. Go fix your own countries now. You stay too long.

Posted by: Acme Russian Bots For Hire at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (2FqvZ)

161 "Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud."
-- Pat Buchanan

QED

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (wYseH)

162
Every other country in the world has hard core immigration laws (even the EU with their loving muzzie exception), and yet they all bitch about our policy. Why? because they want to deport their problems to us. This is why you don't give aid to ingrates.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (r+sAi)

163 I think that Julian Assange tweet about Comey and 50,000 missing text messages is from a parody account named @realJulianAssange.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (lKmt3)

164 Powered by Russian Minks 0.7 Alpha


Posted by: an indifferent penguin at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (6DDWJ)

--------------------------------------------------------
For phucks sake, I thought it was White Russian!

Posted by: RioBravo at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (5NMZN)

165 Parody account.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (nJuW/)
=================Thanks

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Bacon afficiando at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (LISuA)

166
There really is hunger in America.

This is no laughing matter.

I, for example, am hungry for a fat, juicy ribeye and baked potato loaded with butter and sour cream.

I tremble for my future malnourishment.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (BWL+E)

167 158
The lefties turned into Archie Bunker on the Commies so fast I never saw it coming. Its weird. I wonder how it makes them feel?



They learned to hate the Russians only after they officially dumped Communism.



I love the definition of Russian Bot that Twitter gives: loosely at
some level connected to Russia, or posts things that are pro-Russian.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)


Those dipshits are insane.

Posted by: Captain Queeg at January 23, 2018 03:06 PM (ymnmz)

168 #JamesComey @Comey has retained the services of
criminal defense team #AlboOblon in anticipation of impending @wikileaks
release of 50,000 'deleted' text messages, which will prove collusion
between the @DNC and @FBI beyond a reasonable doubt. #Lordy
#LighteningCrashes #TickTock


Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (e8kgV)
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Sometimes, Wikileaks is full of sh*t. I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: WisRich at January 23, 2018 03:06 PM (G0vdT)

169 Take a decade or so off for assimilation with exceptions for military service and marriage to citizens.

Sure, just enough time to get the enforcement end in working order, clear out the sanctuary city crap, and get a handle on immigration in the USA. Clear out people who have expired visas and green cards, send "refugees" back to nations no longer in turmoil, etc.

Then we can look at starting up again. Sorry folks, had to clean house a bit, things went a little crazy for a while.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:06 PM (39g3+)

170 TRUMP SAID DOODY

+++

John Kerry reported for doody

Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at January 23, 2018 03:06 PM (5jA8P)

171
NO BENEFITS.

Posted by: That's all I got to say (for now) at January 23, 2018 03:02 PM (CjE8v)

Says you.

Posted by: hawaiin judge at January 23, 2018 03:06 PM (XQvuQ)

172 And while we're at it let's dig up the body of Terd Kennedy and put it on display in the National Mall to throw rocks and garbage at.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 23, 2018 03:06 PM (A3b6q)

173 "Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud."
-- Pat Buchanan


Yeah Pat... Pat may not actually be a fascist, but if they took over he'd proudly wear the pin. He hates the Joo.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (39g3+)

174 The FBI's servers are managed from Mumbai. And they are whining about mis-configuration of cell phones? What a thing to use as a fall-back alibi.

Posted by: goon at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (EaQ6/)

175 My office is having Diversity Week this week - the idea is that people from HR will answer questions about various support groups within the company to help "diverse" people integrate and succeed.

I'm half tempted to go ask what support groups exist for the old white guys.

Posted by: WitchDoktor
---
Do that and you will have an appt the next day at HR.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (OxI/Y)

176 CCCP3.0
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (wxck1)

Good one!
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 23, 2018 02:58 PM (NWiLs)

Yes finally something besides croc jokes.

I keed I keed.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol



Croc is Russian for bot.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (4dbPD)

177 AtC, you're going to have to decide once and for all; are you becoming the ombudsman at CNN, the Director of the FBI or the Grand Inquisitor of the DOJ? You're highly capable, obviously, but it'll be hard to do all three simultaneously.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Bacon afficiando at January 23, 2018 02:56 PM (LISuA)



Behold the healing power of and! And this Ravage of velociraptors. Mainly the velociraptors.


Isn't it a requirement to obtain an H1B visa that the firm attests that no US candidate is available? Or is that one of the other eleventy billion programs?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. With drink holders. Hopping all around. at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (mf5HN)

178 There really is hunger in America.

This is no laughing matter.

I, for example, am hungry for a fat, juicy ribeye and baked potato loaded with butter and sour cream.

I tremble for my future malnourishment.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (BWL+E)



It sounds like you're "food insecure," my friend. I think many of us will be "Scotch insecure" until later this evening.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (FLuaE)

179 I'm not a big fan of importing the 'best and the brightest' from shithole countries. Who then is left behind in those countries?

Let 'em in, then chase 'em out. Go fix your own countries now. You stay too long.
Posted by: Acme Russian Bots

_________

I'm not either.

Other countries need doctors and entreprenuers as well.

Somehow, I think America's economy will survive if these people innovate elsewhere.

Also, if you've been at a college recently, its all immigrants now. And these people are taking spots and making actual Americans an underclass.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (lKmt3)

180
Fuck them all.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 23, 2018 03:04 PM (UThOJ)

Glad I came in for this because in about an hour here in N. MN I'll eb surrounded by rabid obnoxious Libtards. Its a wake/funeral so i promised to be good. Won't stop them though so does anyone know a meditation word or something?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (BDRZm)

181 I've personally seen those RUSSIAN BOTS working on Balkan Server Farms.

Posted by: ShainS at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (fjdva)

182 As recently as ten years ago the IT industry was employing all new graduates. Since then H1-B has priced Americans out, even the ones who were highly skilled. And that is just one example. Other industries are construction, farm work, hospitality etc.

There are no entry level jobs left because illegal entries have hoovered them up.
Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2018 03:01 PM (/3+Sg)

I worked as a carpenter when I was younger. It was hard work, but good money with unlimited potential for advancement. Way better than most white collar jobs, quality of living wise, with the same or better pay than most office jobs.

Look at the construction industry over all right now.

The proverbial "start in the mailroom" jobs are largely taken by illegal immigrants. They get paid well, but they work under the table, off the books, and jump around from jobsite to job site. They have crowded out the first rung of the ladder (being a labor) and the second rung (assistant to a skilled laborer) just by sheer numbers.

SO you end up with virtually every job site looking like this: a handful of old guys in their '60s supervising dozens / hundreds of illegal immigrants who don't speak the same language as them, have no intention of working their way up the ladder at the company or showing any initiative, and who may or may not give any shits whatsoever about the quality of their work.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (F5+ro)

183 As recently as ten years ago the IT industry was employing all new graduates. "

What a change... even thru the "crash" years, the domestic IT industry was able to hire the vast majority of US IT grads.

Not anymore. It's not just the Visa holders - the OPT program exploded in 2009 (surprise, surprise), and pretty much equaled the number of H1B's...

The really stupid part is that less than 3/4 of those approved to stay even had jobs! (it should be at a nominal 100 percent, but hey....)

It's a joke.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (7LY+6)

184 15 of 16 Russian Bots go to bed hungry every night.

Has the same validity of all stats I hear the looney toon brigade spout. No valid supporting source, evidence or statistics. Just blah, blah, blah.




Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (k2yk7)

185 I know everybody here knows this but Diversity is just code for getting rid of all the whitey's. If the Left truly believed in Diversity you'd see them demonstrating for more diversity in...oh, I don't know...China maybe. Or Central and South America. Or Africa. Or the Middle East. Or the entire rest of the fucking planet? But no. You don't see them demanding that anywhere else.


Their silence in all those other locations confirms their true agenda.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (UThOJ)

186 I'm half tempted to go ask what support groups exist for the old white guys.

Posted by: WitchDoktor
---
Do that and you will have an appt the next day at HR.

Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (OxI/Y)


The support programs for old white guys are at the Men's Center, the building next to the Women's Center.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (FLuaE)

187 Only Brain surgeons and rocket scientists need apply for entry to USA.....and

Well-racked women from impoverished countries.

And guys who can do shelves.

And may be some body who can make even - cheaper Value Rite .


Posted by: Redgrains at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (nhQrr)

188 Who knew Genesis would predict the future?
https://youtu.be/_61hzuGGJX0

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 23, 2018 03:09 PM (Xq/2B)

189
Her Majesty is not a citizen but is deeply patriotic. Her sympathy for illegals is approximately zero.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 23, 2018 03:09 PM (BWL+E)

190 I think we should reduce immigration to 1 immigrant per year and do it totally by the lottery system and televise the whole thing.

Or maybe start with a pool of contestants like American Idol, and the country can vote on who advances through a series of televised interviews, quizzes on American history and culture and talent competitions. The ultimate winner gets a Golden Ticket to a naturalization ceremony.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 23, 2018 03:09 PM (OIiRj)

191 Sorry folks, had to clean house a bit, things went a little crazy for a while.


... the Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: IP at January 23, 2018 03:09 PM (/fNs2)

192 Here's another problem I just learned about: kids in medical school are having to compete for limited residency spots because of the imported doctors who also need those spots to be able to practice in this country.

They don't need doctors back home? Oh, they do? Well then...

Posted by: HooDat at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (CjE8v)

193 I'm half tempted to go ask what support groups exist for the old white guys.

VFW at least

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (39g3+)

194 I tremble for my future malnourishment.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (BWL+E)

That's a terrible thing

Posted by: casey webb at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (XQvuQ)

195 Won't stop them though so does anyone know a meditation word or something?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (BDRZm)


Shithole.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (k2yk7)

196 >>>I know everybody here knows this but Diversity is just code for getting
rid of all the whitey's. If the Left truly believed in Diversity you'd
see them demonstrating for more diversity in...oh, I don't know...China
maybe. Or Central and South America. Or Africa. Or the Middle East. Or
the entire rest of the fucking planet? But no. You don't see them
demanding that anywhere else.
------
Or in the nfl or nba

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (Vl5bQ)

197 One post only, Vasily.

Posted by: Russian Bot at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (6DDWJ)

198 I am Russian Bot. Strong like bull.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (d+3zv)

199 I wonder how much more 'overcrowded' our classrooms would be if we removed the illegal aliens.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2018 03:11 PM (wxck1)

200 "I'm half tempted to go ask what support groups exist for the old white guys.



Posted by: WitchDoktor"

I think that would be the unemployment office,

Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2018 03:11 PM (MxEKc)

201 I've said it before but the Tea Party didn't start as a reaction to Obama, the same people were activated to politics first in 2005/6 when Bush wanted amnesty.
Realizing their own party was selling Americans out for a new people got people angry enough to protest.

Then angry enough to stay home and hand control of the House and the Senate over to democrats. There was no brilliance on the part of the Ds, just disgust on the part of middle-Americans. Those same people became the Tea Party, and those same people became Trump voters.

You can't ask to be heard any louder. If only our "betters" had ears.
Each time has been more insistent. Keep ignoring the people and see what happens next.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 23, 2018 03:11 PM (z79tQ)

202 Won't stop them though so does anyone know a meditation word or something?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (BDRZm)[/i\

Yes.

Ommmm...MAGA MAGA MAGA....ommmm.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2018 03:11 PM (wYseH)

203 15 of 16 Russian Bots go to bed hungry every night.

I've previously recounted the story of site "fighting hunger in America," on which they showed photos of their "success stories."

Page after page of overweight people. More chins than a Chinese phone book. Muffin tops abounded. Lena Dunham would be considered svelte.

I pointed out that their campaign might be less laughable if they didn't show Jenny Craig before pictures.

Next day they removed the photos, but left the accompanying text.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:11 PM (FLuaE)

204 speaking of shitholes, there was a riot last night between hundreds of Turks and Kurds at an aeroport.

In Germany.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2018 03:11 PM (99cKh)

205 Le them eat cake.

Posted by: Your Betters at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (iMxDC)

206 This is what I don't get about Moonbat Brown: He's got major cities littered with miles and miles of homeless people living in tents and worse - some areas make the movie District 9 look like a planned housing community.
If California isn't dry as a bone, it is teetering on the brink most of the time. He's got billions wasted on his bullet train, with vast over budget sums already, yet he presses on. Corporations and industries are fleeing due to taxes and regs. Yet he welcomes the rest of the world in with no end in sight. I just don't understand it.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (tcwn1)

207 Just let the immigrants know, up front, that they will NEVER be eligible for govt. jobs, that they will have to go out into wild, where the capitalists live and build their own log cabins, so to speak. We don't need people who want safe, we need people that want to go hunt scalps and trap beaver and shoot buff.

Posted by: goon at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (EaQ6/)

208 Putin Conspires to Deprive Americans of Millions of Shitholios.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (UY5LY)

209 "I'm half tempted to go ask what support groups exist for the old white guys.

We're commenting in it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (99cKh)

210 In Russia, Bot is you!

Posted by: Penfold at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (Fbt5B)

211 I think we should reduce immigration to 1 immigrant per year and do it totally by the lottery system and televise the whole thing.

Or maybe start with a pool of contestants like American Idol, and the country can vote on who advances through a series of televised interviews, quizzes on American history and culture and talent competitions. The ultimate winner gets a Golden Ticket to a naturalization ceremony.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 23, 2018 03:09 PM (OIiRj)


What country was it where the community voted to deny the application because the woman was an annoying vegan?

We should do that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. With drink holders. Hopping all around. at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (mf5HN)

212 California - one party Democrat state: 27% immigrant population (legal and illegal)

New York - one-party Democrat state: 23% immigrant population.

New Jersey - one-party Democrat state, 21% immigrant population.

Do you get why flooding the country with immigrants is critical to the leftist agenda?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (O7MnT)

213 A country is composed of the people in it.

Import more people from third world shit holes, you become a third world shit hole.

White people have to wake the fuck up to what is being planned for them.

Does anyone have any doubt that once whites are in the minority there will not be so-called score settling?

Immigration needs to reduced to a trickle and only from first world and anglosphere countries.

Sorry but o dont want my country to become an Hispano-Asian shithole which is what we will become because thats who we are importing.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 23, 2018 03:13 PM (p5KWV)

214 "I'm half tempted to go ask what support groups exist for the old white guys.

We're commenting in it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
---
This would be funny if it was not true.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2018 03:13 PM (OxI/Y)

215 My bete noire is Somalia. Why in God's name would we want uneducated, illiterate (in any language), totally unemployable Muslims from what is by anyone's standards a shithole? I would be surprised if "Somalia" means "shithole" in whatever language they speak there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (FLuaE)

I'd trade every Somali for five Haitians.

Even Haiti would not take in a Somali. They stink up the joint.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 23, 2018 03:13 PM (A3b6q)

216 I know everybody here knows this but Diversity is just code for getting rid of all the whitey's.

At least, a lot of them. Its like Rainbow Six they wanted to depopulate the world...except the enlightened, good people who were going to be saved and return to run things.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:13 PM (39g3+)

217 192 Here's another problem I just learned about: kids in medical school are having to compete for limited residency spots because of the imported doctors who also need those spots to be able to practice in this country.

They don't need doctors back home? Oh, they do? Well then...
Posted by: HooDat at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (CjE8v)


And then they'll have a funding drive for "Doctors Without Borders." Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:13 PM (FLuaE)

218 It's 10pm. Do you know where your Russian Bot is?

Posted by: goon at January 23, 2018 03:13 PM (EaQ6/)

219 >>>You can't ask to be heard any louder. If only our "betters" had ears.

Each time has been more insistent. Keep ignoring the people and see what happens next.
-----
They hear.

They think they will weather the storm and come out on top in the end.

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2018 03:13 PM (Vl5bQ)

220 We need to spread the word that those crazy gringos eat brown people that wander into their country.

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2018 03:13 PM (+lOpA)

221 Isn't it a requirement to obtain an H1B visa that the firm attests that no US candidate is available? Or is that one of the other eleventy billion programs?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. With drink holders. Hopping all around. at January 23, 2018 03:07 PM (mf5HN)

Yes, but they get around that by advertising these jobs in little read publications and making them sound as shitty and unattractive as possible AND tailored to the resume of the candidate they want to hire. So if they want someone to make iphone apps, it'll look something like this:

"Wanted: Coder proficient in C++, Java, JavaScript, QBasic, and designing iPhone Apps in Swift. Must have 5 years experience in coding, with references available. Pay: $27,000 to $41,000 depending on experience. Must be willing to relocate."

In the meantime, they have a guy in mind who fits that profile and is willing to work for $41,000.

But for some recent college grad who took on $80,000 in student loan debt in a really challenging major in college because "DO STEM!!! SO MUCH MONEY IN IT!" he sees "uh, I don't code in any of those obsolete languages, don't have 5 years of experience, and can't afford to work for $27,000 a year..."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (F5+ro)

222 >>>I'm half tempted to go ask what support groups exist for the old white guys.

Health club sauna at 10 AM

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (nJuW/)

223 This is what I don't get about Moonbat Brown: He's got major cities littered with miles and miles of homeless people living in tents and worse - some areas make the movie District 9 look like a planned housing community.

And each one of them voted for him five times.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (gCJeK)

224 My bete noire is Somalia. Why in God's name would we want uneducated, illiterate (in any language), totally unemployable Muslims from what is by anyone's standards a shithole?

Some areas don't really deserve to be called countries. They have no government, no law, no structure, no real civilization. They aren't a nation by any objective standard. They're a hole in the map, between real nations. Somalia is one of those. Haiti is another.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (39g3+)

225 Won't stop them though so does anyone know a meditation word or something?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (BDRZm)

ommm HillaryWillNeverBePOTUS ommm

ommm HillaryWillDieBitter ommm

ommm HillaryLostToTheDonald ommm

ommm PDTMayGetToPick2More4Scotus ommm

etc.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (kXoT0)

226 161 "Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud."
-- Pat Buchanan

QED
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (wYseH)




Pat Buchanan is a pigheaded isolationist fool, but he is still spot on about Immigration. (Like the late Charles Lindbergh, I will stop short of the Nazi smear, but he is very disappointing nonetheless).

But Immigration Reality is something even the RINOiest of RINOs can understand. After all Pete Wilson, staunchly pro-abortion and raising a tax here and there, understood Immigration Reality, and he was the last decent Republican Governor we had here. (Ah-nold, for all his vaunted charisma, folded like a cheap suit when confronted with the rabid Commiecrat Left out here).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (ujg0T)

227 You can't ask to be heard any louder. If only our "betters" had ears.
Each time has been more insistent. Keep ignoring the people and see what happens next.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 23, 2018 03:11 PM (z79tQ)


To steal from Insty:

The Tea Party was the polite request. Trump is the impolite request.

There will be something after Trump if people do not listen. And they are not listening.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. With drink holders. Hopping all around. at January 23, 2018 03:15 PM (mf5HN)

228 kids in medical school are having to compete for limited residency spots because of the imported doctors "

Bringing up numbers will get the inevitable "you're lying" by tossing out irrelevant numbers, discounting less well known programs.

Seriously - how many here have ever heard of the Optional Practical Training program?

Bring it up and you'll be told "the H1B visa number is blahblahblah..."

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 23, 2018 03:15 PM (7LY+6)

229 Glad I came in for this because in about an hour
here in N. MN I'll eb surrounded by rabid obnoxious Libtards. Its a
wake/funeral so i promised to be good. Won't stop them though so does
anyone know a meditation word or something?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 23, 2018 03:08 PM (BDRZm)


How 'bout repeating to yourself, as your eyes scour the room, EABOD you fucktards .


You should take my advice. I have a degree in Psychology. And I once stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.


Just trying to be helpful.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 23, 2018 03:15 PM (UThOJ)

230 Ace, I know that you're not a particular fan of Michelle Malkin, but her take on immigration visas is spot on, IMHO. Please check out the O visa, which should be used instead of the HB visas now being abused. There is no limitation on O visas, but the candidate has to have special skills that aren't readily available from American citizens.

IMHO, this is what conservatives should be pushing.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (rdl6o)

231 A Russian Bot walks into a bar with a duck ....

Posted by: goon at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (EaQ6/)

232 206 This is what I don't get about Moonbat Brown: He's got major cities littered with miles and miles of homeless people living in tents and worse - some areas make the movie District 9 look like a planned housing community.
If California isn't dry as a bone, it is teetering on the brink most of the time. He's got billions wasted on his bullet train, with vast over budget sums already, yet he presses on. Corporations and industries are fleeing due to taxes and regs. Yet he welcomes the rest of the world in with no end in sight. I just don't understand it.
Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (tcwn1)


If you ever figure it out, please explain it to me, because I have no idea why he does that. None.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (FLuaE)

233 Just spitballing here, but maybe this might be in part because there's 90+ million who have checked out pf the workforce thanks to 8 years of Obama?

We don't need more white collar/H1b visa immigrants anymore than we supposedly need more cheap nannies and gardeners.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (W+vEI)

234 From the Rodina

https://youtu.be/CSkHoQRQMsE

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (Xq/2B)

235 >>>You should take my advice. I have a degree in Psychology

Hey!! Where the hell is my coffee?!?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (nJuW/)

236 There will be something after Trump if people do not listen. And they are not listening.

Exactly. If this won't work, if they will not listen, and worse, if they destroy or remove this voice... God help us all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (39g3+)

237 A Russian Bot walks into a bar with a duck ....

Posted by: goon
---
And the duck says *put it on my bill!*

Posted by: Just the punchline at January 23, 2018 03:17 PM (OxI/Y)

238 Somalia is a country only because nobody in the area wants to take it over.

Posted by: IP at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (/fNs2)

239 Some areas don't really deserve to be called
countries. They have no government, no law, no structure, no real
civilization. They aren't a nation by any objective standard. They're a
hole in the map, between real nations. Somalia is one of those. Haiti
is another.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (39g3+)

Tribes with flags.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (geAkB)

240 If you ever figure it out, please explain it to me, because I have no idea why he does that. None.

I think its the same thought process as President Obama's "new normal, no magic wand" statements on the economy and unemployment. Those jobs are just gone, man.

They think that's an inevitable and unavoidable part of the world, and are focusing on building the future, while trying to find ways to be "compassionate" toward that part of life. Just how things are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (39g3+)

241 Cannibal Bob, well you could start drawing lines on the corpse while mumbling about "prime cuts"

That should get you kicked out PDQ.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (Xq/2B)

242 FBI Director Chris Wray will be replacing his chief of staff over the next few weeks - one week after he testified before House committees in their ongoing probes into the bureau's conduct while investigating Hillary Clinton's email case, several sources told CNN on Tuesday.

James Rybicki - who also served as James Comey's chief of staff, will be replaced by white-collar lawyer, Zachary Harmon, according to the sources.

"Jim Rybicki notified me last month that he will be leaving the FBI to accept an opportunity in the corporate sector," said Director Wray, adding "While this is an exciting move for the whole Rybicki family, Jim will be dearly missed by the FBI family -- and by me personally. His many years of dedication to the Bureau and (Justice Department), his level-headed judgment and earnest professionalism, and his steady good cheer have been an asset to us all and have contributed greatly to the safety and security of our nation."

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (e8kgV)

243 If you ever figure it out, please explain it to me, because I have no idea why he does that. None."

Read the "young man's speech" from The Camp of The Saints...

Pretty good answer to the question...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (7LY+6)

244 And each one of them voted for him five times.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (gCJeK)


And the scary thought: by California standards, Brown is the voice of reason and probity.

Ponder that for a while.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (FLuaE)

245 >>Zero immigrants til we know how many are here in the first place.. Ive heard 11 million forever... But its way more im sure..


Ann Coulter used several non-census sources for "America Alone" and she put it at 40+ million.


The other dirty little secret about legal immigration is that the majority can be attributed to chain migration. For ever one we explicitly allow in come many, many more. No more of this, please.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2018 03:19 PM (W+vEI)

246
Some areas don't really deserve to be called countries. They have no government, no law, no structure, no real civilization. They aren't a nation by any objective standard. They're a hole in the map, between real nations. Somalia is one of those. Haiti is another.


Thomas Barnett, 'The Pentagon's New Map'
Robert Kaplan, 'The Coming Anarchy'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2018 03:19 PM (99cKh)

247 I am OK on a moratorium on all immigration until we have proof that the problem is fixed and that we also completely end chain and or family immigration as it is currently constituted.

Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2018 03:19 PM (KFf4Y)

248 230 Ace, I know that you're not a particular fan of Michelle Malkin, but her take on immigration visas is spot on, IMHO. Please check out the O visa, which should be used instead of the HB visas now being abused. There is no limitation on O visas, but the candidate has to have special skills that aren't readily available from American citizens.

IMHO, this is what conservatives should be pushing.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (rdl6o)




Really? Ace does not like her? She is the Patron Saint of Cute Asian American Pundits to me, and almost always spot the F*** on. Where was she when I needed her at Berkeley? The answer is that she was at Oberlin 2,000 miles to the east, but I digress.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:19 PM (ujg0T)

249 We have no need of anyone from Somalia. The average IQ is 68. https://tinyurl.com/y8myskcc If we suddenly develop a crushing need for folks with that IQ level, we have all we need in Detroit, Chicago, and East LA. From that same site, the average IQ in America is 90-100.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at January 23, 2018 03:20 PM (kXoT0)

250 lmao ace real naive
they know its unpopular, all across the world they know it, which is why they variously outlaw objection to it, destroy your career for objecting to it, ban you from twitter for objecting to it, and why the entire media is dedicated to propagandizing it.

I'd explain why but it would get me banned from this site too

Posted by: dw at January 23, 2018 03:20 PM (X8FSN)

251 I think its the same thought process as President Obama's "new normal, no magic wand" statements on the economy and unemployment. Those jobs are just gone, man.

They think that's an inevitable and unavoidable part of the world, and are focusing on building the future, while trying to find ways to be "compassionate" toward that part of life. Just how things are.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (39g3+)


Good point. It's like Jimmah Carter's "lowered expectations" speech. Don't fight to make things better; learn to accept the suck. It's the Democrats' motto.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:20 PM (FLuaE)

252 I'm sick and should fall asleep any minute. I live in Massachusetts & my senators & rep suck, of course.

Posted by: Carol at January 23, 2018 03:20 PM (NKOy9)

253 Gov Moonbeam is sending money to the unions with the train scam.

They're trying the same in Hawaii.

And Mass, I think.

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2018 03:21 PM (Vl5bQ)

254 And Minneapolis makes a Somali guy a police officer.

Still no justice for Justine either.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 23, 2018 03:21 PM (Xq/2B)

255 From that same site, the average IQ in America is 90-100.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at January 23, 2018 03:20 PM (kXoT0)



And inexplicably trending downward ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:22 PM (FLuaE)

256
I think its the same thought process as President Obama's "new
normal, no magic wand" statements on the economy and unemployment. Those
jobs are just gone, man.



They think that's an inevitable and unavoidable part of the world,
and are focusing on building the future, while trying to find ways to be
"compassionate" toward that part of life. Just how things are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (39g3+)



Good point. It's like Jimmah Carter's "lowered expectations" speech.
Don't fight to make things better; learn to accept the suck. It's the
Democrats' motto.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:20 PM (FLuaE
--------------------------
In fairness, Obama did encourage us to have our children learn Spanish.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 23, 2018 03:22 PM (5NMZN)

257 There are bots in plenty, and well known to fame

In the ranks that were led by Putin,

But the bravest of all was a bot by the name
Of an indifferent penguin.

Posted by: an indifferent Russian bot at January 23, 2018 03:22 PM (6DDWJ)

258 By the way, the usual suspects in congress are claiming Russian Bots are behind the memo that's going to be released

http://tinyurl.com/ycfre8rw

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:22 PM (39g3+)

259 238 Somalia is a country only because nobody in the area wants to take it over.
Posted by: IP at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (/fNs2)



The Left will have hissy fits at this, but Colonialism had its upsides, and Somalia is proof.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:22 PM (ujg0T)

260
Pat Buchanan is a pigheaded isolationist fool, but he is still spot
on about Immigration. (Like the late Charles Lindbergh, I will stop
short of the Nazi smear, but he is very disappointing nonetheless).



----

I won't say Lindbergh was a sympathizer but he was REALLY Nazi curious.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 23, 2018 03:23 PM (geAkB)

261 Ann Coulter used several non-census sources for "America Alone" and she put it at 40+ million.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2018 03:19 PM (W+vEI)

Right. We really have no idea how many people come, go, or stay here illegally. We have what are at best, educated guesses, made by people who seemingly want to minimize the number (our govt, mostly), which makes the guess even more suspect then it would otherwise be.

Seriously, their two methods are
1) "well, border patrol estimates based on wild guesses by thousands of people that they dealt with 20,000 this year. We'll assume that 50% of the people made it through, so we'll say we have 50,000 new illegals."
and
2) "well, when census workers conduct phone polls and ask people 'are you here illegally?' only a few percentage of the population say yes to that question, so we'll extrapolate that out to a country of 320 million, do the math, and... 11 million overall"


Sorry if both methods seem... well, not better than randomly pulling a number out of your ass to me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2018 03:23 PM (F5+ro)

262 Really? Ace does not like her? She is the Patron Saint of Cute Asian American Pundits to me, and almost always spot the F*** on. Where was she when I needed her at Berkeley? The answer is that she was at Oberlin 2,000 miles to the east, but I digress.

Fine, he's a Michelle Malkin groupie. What's your opinion on the O visas vs HB visas?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at January 23, 2018 03:24 PM (rdl6o)

263 Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:14 PM (ujg0T)

Do not disagree he may be overall correct on immigration, but Buchanan cannot be allowed to be your spokesperson. At least Lindbergh was a national hero at one point.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 03:24 PM (zoyKY)

264 My bete noire is Somalia. Why in God's name would we want uneducated,
illiterate (in any language), totally unemployable Muslims from what is
by anyone's standards a shithole? I would be surprised if "Somalia"
means "shithole" in whatever language they speak there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (FLuaE)



It seems like half the employees at the airport in Minneapolis are Somali. Feels weird and creepy being checked through security by the same type of people who dragged our dead soldiers (who were there trying to make sure their food wasn't stolen by warlords) through the streets of Mogadishu.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 23, 2018 03:24 PM (UThOJ)

265 In fairness, Obama did encourage us to have our children learn Spanish.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 23, 2018 03:22 PM (5NMZN)


Do Sushi and Malaria speak Spanish?

It's a rhetorical question.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM (FLuaE)

266 Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud."
-- Pat Buchanan

QED
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2018 03:05 PM (wYseH)


Wait, he's saying Israel benefits? I don't see that.

Is this a recent remark.

We have 3 cold wars going on right now. And have been for a few years...they just haven't been codified. Well, except by moi. And they all overlap and impact each other.

Throw some cold civil wars (dozens) onto that pile and we are talking barn burners. Thankfully, it is still metaphorical, not literal.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM (k2yk7)

267 Am I actually a RUSSIAN BOT?!

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM (LiyEm)

268 Except hot Latinas.
Fewer Russian Bots, More Hot Latinas.

Send it.

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM (xBSm0)

269 >>>Do Sushi and Malaria speak Spanish?



It's a rhetorical question.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM (FLuaE)<<<

Austrian.

Posted by: an indifferent Russian bot at January 23, 2018 03:26 PM (6DDWJ)

270 And in World War II Charles Lindbergh threw his support behind the US war effort. In the Pacific he helped develop the techniques used by P-38 pilots to give the fighter longer legs. He even unofficially flew combat missions, as a civilian, and maybe scored a victory against the Japs a time or two.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 23, 2018 03:26 PM (Xq/2B)

271 That's not a zit, it's a Russian Botfly.

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2018 03:26 PM (HgMAr)

272 Some areas don't really deserve to be called countries. They have no government, no law, no structure, no real civilization. They aren't a nation by any objective standard. They're a hole in the map, between real nations. Somalia is one of those. Haiti is another.

Thomas Barnett, 'The Pentagon's New Map'
Robert Kaplan, 'The Coming Anarchy'
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January




yeah, on the old maps it said "here be dragons", on the new maps it says "here be shitholes."

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 23, 2018 03:26 PM (MTjB1)

273 DeShawn and Shaniqua dislike being bossed-around by Whitey, but they like being bossed-around by HighSpanics even less.

And a bunch of Mooselims...forget it.

Posted by: Gref at January 23, 2018 03:26 PM (AMIL/)

274 I'm sick and should fall asleep any minute.

Snuggle into a soft warm bed and heal for a few hours, come back to us all well and happy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:26 PM (39g3+)

275 Ole Pat is blinded by the joo hate.I blame RUSSIAN BOTS.

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2018 03:26 PM (LiyEm)

276 >>By the way, the usual suspects in congress are claiming Russian Bots are behind the memo that's going to be released


Yeah, but people who suggest there was a conspiracy within the DOJ and FBI at the highest levels to clear Hillary from here multiple obvious feloinies and take down the duly elected president are just crazy conspiracists who worry too much about stove more than 10 miles from their homes.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2018 03:26 PM (/tuJf)

277 238 Somalia is a country only because nobody in the area wants to take it over.
Posted by: IP at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (/fNs2)


Yep, but imagine if Israel took it over. I bet within a generation Somali beaches would be a tourist hot spot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:27 PM (FLuaE)

278 The Russian Bots are coming from inside my brain!

Posted by: Dianne Feinstein at January 23, 2018 03:27 PM (SkuXa)

279 As long as LinkedIn shows 500+ applicants for a mid-level management job in Naperville (don't buy LinkedIn Premium, not worth it), the Folks aren't gonna want more Bangaloreans, Salvadorans, and Belarussians.

Though I would not say no to setting up my home as a refugee camp for Danish girls.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 23, 2018 03:27 PM (hqZPQ)

280 I love me some Michelle Malkin, wish she was in my lap right now. Except she'd freak out and slap me, then run away, since I'm not wearing any pants and has no idea who I am.

Maybe its better we don't meet.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:28 PM (39g3+)

281 Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:19 PM (ujg0T)

Her book was unreadable and she goes to eleventy too much on mundane issues. Also she cannot fight back in person very well. Besides that I Ike her and 90% of her positions.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 03:28 PM (zoyKY)

282 stove = stuff

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2018 03:28 PM (/tuJf)

283 Fewer Russian Bots, More Hot Latinas.
..........

Yes. They really appreciate our two-ply.

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2018 03:28 PM (HgMAr)

284 232 206 This is what I don't get about Moonbat Brown: He's got major cities littered with miles and miles of homeless people living in tents and worse - some areas make the movie District 9 look like a planned housing community.
If California isn't dry as a bone, it is teetering on the brink most of the time. He's got billions wasted on his bullet train, with vast over budget sums already, yet he presses on. Corporations and industries are fleeing due to taxes and regs. Yet he welcomes the rest of the world in with no end in sight. I just don't understand it.
Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2018 03:12 PM (tcwn1)

If you ever figure it out, please explain it to me, because I have no idea why he does that. None.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:16 PM (FLuaE)



Sadly I DO have a few ideas:
1. 21st Century Tammany Hall, where immigrant votes keep them in office (and administering welfare programs to said votes) forever.
2. Commiecrat moles, still bitter that their side lost and still digesting all the Sandinista spooge they guzzled down, getting their "revenge" upon Middle America.
3. Self-hate from Leftist Indoctrination from said Commiecrat moles in #2 above.
4. That cheap gardener, maid, or "exotic" prostitute.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:28 PM (ujg0T)

285 Whose Bots this is?!

Posted by: the guy from that video at January 23, 2018 03:29 PM (6DDWJ)

286 267 Am I actually a RUSSIAN BOT?!
Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM (LiyEm)

And now we're deeep in the philosophical weeds.

Posted by: Immanuel Kant, Moron at January 23, 2018 03:29 PM (RD7QR)

287 Though I would not say no to setting up my home as a refugee camp for Danish girls.

Welcome to Big Fat Meanie's Nordic Teen camp. Wii Fit games and uniforms through that door.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:29 PM (39g3+)

288 If you connect all the Russian Bots it spells out Hillary Clinton Will Never Be POTUS.

Posted by: jsg at January 23, 2018 03:29 PM (gs8be)

289 And inexplicably trending downward ..."

The Marching Morons.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 23, 2018 03:30 PM (7LY+6)

290 Moonbeam Brown's daddy was knocked off by Reagan.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 23, 2018 03:30 PM (hqZPQ)

291 >>>about stove more than 10 miles from their homes.

That is a long walk for pizza rolls.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:30 PM (nJuW/)

292 Am I actually a RUSSIAN BOT?!

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM (LiyEm)

---------------------------------

You are a Russian bot if you identify as a Russian bot.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 23, 2018 03:30 PM (5NMZN)

293 Do Sushi and Malaria speak Spanish?

It's a rhetorical question.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM (FLuaE)

Silly, they have people for that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 23, 2018 03:30 PM (NXsWM)

294 I mean we could all be RUSSIAN BOTS talking to each other without being aware we are RUSSIAN BOTS....

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (LiyEm)

295 Do we know what country and what form of immigration our muslim terrorist of the week is from - the "Minnesota woman" who attempted to burn St. Kate's down by setting 8 separate fires? She's only 19 and per PowerLine first record of her is attending a local middle school. Bets that she's a visa lottery winner's (chain) relative just like the NYC truck terrorsist???

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (W+vEI)

296 Unless they're Christians fleeing religious persecution I want a ban on immigration/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (8+Ozj)

297 Sadly I DO have a few ideas:
1. 21st Century Tammany Hall, where immigrant votes keep them in office (and administering welfare programs to said votes) forever.
2. Commiecrat moles, still bitter that their side lost and still digesting all the Sandinista spooge they guzzled down, getting their "revenge" upon Middle America.
3. Self-hate from Leftist Indoctrination from said Commiecrat moles in #2 above.
4. That cheap gardener, maid, or "exotic" prostitute.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:28 PM (ujg0T)


Maybe. I suspect in Brown's particular case it's the Jesuit shit coming through, the notion that we should all wear hair shirts and suffer and do without because it's good for the soul. Mortification of the flesh, and all that.

The rest of the Dems are just straight-up criminals, perverts, and Communists. But in Brown's case, I think it's a perverted religious sentiment, perhaps mixed in with daddy issues (since he's done exactly the opposite of his father Pat Brown when he was governor).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (FLuaE)

298 280 I love me some Michelle Malkin, wish she was in my lap right now. Except she'd freak out and slap me, then run away, since I'm not wearing any pants and has no idea who I am.

Maybe its better we don't meet.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:28 PM (39g3+

Made me smile and that's a good thing.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (7GNTg)

299 259 238 Somalia is a country only because nobody in the area wants to take it over.
Posted by: IP at January 23, 2018 03:18 PM (/fNs2)


The Left will have hissy fits at this, but Colonialism had its upsides, and Somalia is proof.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:22 PM (ujg0T)

If your country was better off run by Italy, you might live in a shithole.

Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (7HtZB)

300 Bot Flies

Robot or Fly?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (zoyKY)

301 We need to have a study about Bot-ism and Fluidity

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (Xq/2B)

302 After that internal DNC memo that "the survival of the Democratic Party depends on immigration" nobody should be talking about immigration in any kind of cutesy terms. The game has been given away in their own words.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (3J/LN)

303 >>That is a long walk for pizza rolls.

I'm betting you would know.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2018 03:32 PM (/tuJf)

304 "The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner."

Correct on all counts. I so very much wish you were not, but alas you are.

Posted by: That one guy at January 23, 2018 03:32 PM (ml7/e)

305
Shut it all down. No more immigrants.

However, I believe that it's perfectly acceptable to make an exception for RUSSIAN STRIPPER BOTS.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2018 03:32 PM (veoSD)

306 >>>I mean we could all be RUSSIAN BOTS talking to each other without being aware we are RUSSIAN BOTS

If thats Olham then I must be...,

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:32 PM (nJuW/)

307 >>>I mean we could all be RUSSIAN BOTS talking to each other without being aware we are RUSSIAN BOTS....

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (LiyEm)<<<

Frakkin' bots.

Posted by: Col. Tigh from the BSG reboot at January 23, 2018 03:32 PM (6DDWJ)

308 I call myself...Dr. Zhivago.

Posted by: Self Aware Russian Bot at January 23, 2018 03:32 PM (k2yk7)

309 21st Century Tammany Hall, where immigrant votes keep them in office (and administering welfare programs to said votes) forever. "

Do not ever discount this. It's all about power, and that's one way to get it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 23, 2018 03:32 PM (7LY+6)

310 Publishers Clearinghouse is giving away 5000 visas a week, for life!

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (xBSm0)

311 Moonbeam was actually the best mayor Oakland's probably ever had.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (dZ756)

312 Though I would not say no to setting up my home as a refugee camp for Danish girls.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 23, 2018 03:27 PM


How about us girls who like Danish?

Posted by: Cora Segal at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (ctuyM)

313 I mean we could all be RUSSIAN BOTS talking to each other without being aware we are RUSSIAN BOTS....

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (LiyEm)
--------------------------Bots in a riddle wrapped within a mystery inside an enigma?

Posted by: RioBravo at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (5NMZN)

314 The Left will have hissy fits at this, but Colonialism had its upsides, and Somalia is proof.

Look at the Map of Africa. You can identify which nations were run by England and which were not. Although they're all starting to fall apart, the English colonies were the ones which were more prosperous, more advanced, more stable, and had better governments. The ones never colonized are still practically stone age.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (39g3+)

315 Stop it!

Posted by: RUSSIAN BOTS at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (3MiF8)

316 308. Kak ti delayesh, David? - NAL900

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at January 23, 2018 03:34 PM (fA1SL)

317 Feels weird and creepy being checked through security by the same type of people who dragged our dead soldiers (who were there trying to make sure their food wasn't stolen by warlords) through the streets of Mogadishu. "

Recall that one of their "warlords" had been driving a cab in DC...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 23, 2018 03:34 PM (7LY+6)

318 >>>I'm betting you would know.

You might want to go Costanza with your instincts

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:34 PM (nJuW/)

319 311 Moonbeam was actually the best mayor Oakland's probably ever had.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (dZ756)


Sad, but true.

He's probably the best governor will have from now on, too, judging by the miscreants who are warming up in the bullpen.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:34 PM (FLuaE)

320 Actual Russian bots are fairly easy to spot. A couple times I've read articles critical of Putin on sites with facebook comments, and the comment sections were filled with pro-Putin comments from obviously fake profiles of hot Russian women.

As with most things, the left took something that was vaguely rooted in truth and used it as a conspiratorial weapon to shut down debate

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at January 23, 2018 03:34 PM (mynhJ)

321 I mean we could all be RUSSIAN BOTS talking to each other without being aware we are RUSSIAN BOTS....

Once you take the red pill there's no going back.

Posted by: Morpheus at January 23, 2018 03:34 PM (XkVXQ)

322 @250, dw is exactly right about what's going on, if we wouldn't quite agree on the cause.

The establishment doesn't assume the popularity of our nation's radical transformation, they know it's DEEPLY unpopular, which is why they try to bury it in euphemism and implement it through undemocratic means.

Posted by: Bubba at January 23, 2018 03:35 PM (Zpygp)

323 NxTwitter #

Posted by: Boris BOTssky at January 23, 2018 03:35 PM (gs8be)

324 >>You might want to go Costanza with your instincts

You might want to admit you were wrong but you won't because you're just a snarky, condescending dick.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2018 03:35 PM (/tuJf)

325 The menace of the RUSSIAN BOTS!
"And the Crimson Dynamo
Just couldn't cut it no mo',
He was too old...!"

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 23, 2018 03:35 PM (7Ml7x)

326 We had a full and complete immigration stop for decades, under a democrap preezy, iirc, until all of the Ellis Island folks got with the program, and the later debacle of Ted the Swimmer's 1965 decmocrap voter drive. We need the FULL STOP again.

BUT, the miscreants in DC have plundered the Soc. Security lockbox and butchered 60 million potential Americans, so they're "correcting" their mistake in their own twisted way.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at January 23, 2018 03:35 PM (ihzOe)

327 -
--
Am I actually a RUSSIAN BOT?!


Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2018 03:25 PM

----------------------------------------------------------------

You Bot , therefore you am.


Posted by: Rino Descartes at January 23, 2018 03:35 PM (pMGkg)

328 The rest of the Dems are just straight-up criminals, perverts, and Communists. But in Brown's case, I think it's a perverted religious sentiment, perhaps mixed in with daddy issues (since he's done exactly the opposite of his father Pat Brown when he was governor).
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:31 PM (FLuaE)



That sadly makes sense--the Jesuit (the most leftist of the Catholics) indoctrination.

Pat Brown, and others of the Old Left, while they may have been economically WRONG and also too big government, at least built cool freeways, dams, and aqueducts.

Moonbeam was actually the best mayor Oakland's probably ever had.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (dZ756)



Also sadly true. There is no "Black Way" to pick up the trash.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:36 PM (ujg0T)

329 He's probably the best governor will have from now on, too, judging by the miscreants who are warming up in the bullpen.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:34 PM


He doesn't have my boyish good looks, though.

Posted by: Gavin Newsome at January 23, 2018 03:36 PM (ctuyM)

330 I must Bot you.

Posted by: Ivan Drago at January 23, 2018 03:36 PM (6DDWJ)

331 324 >>You might want to go Costanza with your instincts

You might want to admit you were wrong but you won't because you're just a snarky, condescending dick.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2018 03:35 PM (/tuJf)

He's just a troll with some humor, Jack. Just ignore.

Posted by: Immanuel Kant, Moron at January 23, 2018 03:36 PM (RD7QR)

332 This is exactly why we need to import better voters.

Posted by: The Democrats at January 23, 2018 03:36 PM (k9Qfl)

333

So Schumer just withdrew the funding for the wall that he didn't offer in the first place.


I guess that means that DACA is dead and Trump didn't kill it.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM (e8kgV)

334 Russian mail order Bots.

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM (HgMAr)

335 That 1 per year is attractive.

It would be the best. immigrant. ever.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2018 02:52 PM (ul9CR)

Too much pressure; I vote for 2.

Posted by: LASue at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM (BZA5F)

336 "Humor"

Posted by: Dianne Feinstein at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM (SkuXa)

337 >call for combating illegal immigration by simply jacking up legal immigration so much that there's less of a need at all to immigrate illegally.

I want to come to the US legally and someone else wants to do it illegally. Letting me in sooner will persuade the illegal to stay home how?



Posted by: all doubt removed at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM (xj0OI)

338 Is that a Mexican poncho, or a Sears poncho?

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM (xBSm0)

339 But, but what about the children?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM (8k0tb)

340 I dont think we need a hard number. Just strict criteria like speak English, college degree in stem and/or a skilled trade, appreciate capitalsim and freedom ( not sure how you quantify that but there are ways)...come on in.

But no more chain migration. Its you we want, not you and every relative of yours.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 23, 2018 03:38 PM (qBhLi)

341 "The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner."

Correct on all counts. I so very much wish you were not, but alas you are.
Posted by: That one guy at January 23, 2018 03:32 PM (ml7/e)



The upper edge of Millenials are starting to push 40. I've seen several articles about people in the tech industry discussing needing to get Botox and their hair dyed and on and on and on because Silicon Valley, that bastion of tolerance, is so brutally ageist and by ageist I mean everyone over 30 knows nothing, John Snow.

It makes me, a bitter Gen Xer, laugh and laugh and laugh.

Welcome to the world you made. It's much like how the Boomers who get into Big Law and pushed and pushed as junior partners for mandatory retirement at mid to late 60s so they could take over the senior partner positions are now screaming about how awful that is.

And Gen X just laughs and laughs and laughs and laughs.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. With drink holders. Hopping all around. at January 23, 2018 03:38 PM (mf5HN)

342 >>>You might want to admit you were wrong but you won't because you're just a snarky, condescending dick.

Mid afternoon is a bit late in the day to still be cranky.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:38 PM (nJuW/)

343 Moonbeam was actually the best mayor Oakland's probably ever had.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (dZ756)
.............

It was the LSD.

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2018 03:38 PM (HgMAr)

344 Just finished installing a replacement gas oven igniter. If I don't report back later you know the install went horribly wrong.

Posted by: Under Fire at January 23, 2018 03:39 PM (r9UYA)

345 So this morning, AM Joe said, "I'm sounding more like a Democrat every morning."

And Mika replied, "I'm so proud of you."

*snerk*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2018 03:39 PM (ptqGC)

346 C'mon baby light my fire

Posted by: VyachaBOT Molotov at January 23, 2018 03:39 PM (gs8be)

347 Look at the Map of Africa. You can identify which
nations were run by England and which were not. Although they're all
starting to fall apart, the English colonies were the ones which were
more prosperous, more advanced, more stable, and had better governments.
The ones never colonized are still practically stone age.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (39g3+)


So true. It's one of the reasons I'm an Anglophile. the English have been on balance a truly civilizing force throughout much of the world. And on balance they were benevolent. And when it was time to let go, e.g., India, they did. Without violence. In this, the Indians were fortunate they weren't colonized by China. Or Russia. Or Belgium for that matter, who seem to have gained a pretty brutal reputation in Africa.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 23, 2018 03:39 PM (UThOJ)

348 314 The Left will have hissy fits at this, but Colonialism had its upsides, and Somalia is proof.

Look at the Map of Africa. You can identify which nations were run by England and which were not. Although they're all starting to fall apart, the English colonies were the ones which were more prosperous, more advanced, more stable, and had better governments. The ones never colonized are still practically stone age.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (39g3+)


We call that a "control experiment."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:40 PM (FLuaE)

349 There are fields, Neo. Vast fields where memes are no longer born, they are grown..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 03:40 PM (QQ+il)

350 Is that a Mexican poncho, or a Sears poncho?

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM


obligatory:

http://www.thedailyrag.co.uk/sweet-baby-jesus/

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 23, 2018 03:40 PM (ZQfW9)

351 Why do you seem to think Bots are Bad Things?

Posted by: Eliza at January 23, 2018 03:40 PM (ctuyM)

352 How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Paolo.

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at January 23, 2018 03:40 PM (SkuXa)

353 Yeah we can't have immigration on vague concepts and ideals like "benefit to America" it has to be hard, specific exact terms of economic and clear social benefit. Which, sadly, means not based on artistic talent (why come to America anyway for art?), but clear exact categories that are difficult to fudge by Hawaiian judges.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:40 PM (39g3+)

354 Or Belgium for that matter, who seem to have gained a pretty brutal reputation in Africa.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 23, 2018 03:39 PM (UThOJ)


The Portuguese, too, were notoriously hard-nosed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:40 PM (FLuaE)

355 >>Mid afternoon is a bit late in the day to still be cranky.

I'm not cranky in the least. I knew all along I was right and you were wrong and you would never admit it.

The word you are looking for is schadenfreude.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (/tuJf)

356 So this morning, AM Joe said, "I'm sounding more like a Democrat every morning."

And Mika replied, "I'm so proud of you."

*snerk*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2018 03:39 PM (ptqGC)



I have things to say in response to that which would get me banninated as I would deserve.




Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. With drink holders. Hopping all around. at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (mf5HN)

357 NOOD

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (nJuW/)

358 Now, Russian SEX bots...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (oVJmc)

359 I know that you're not a particular fan of Michelle Malkin, but her take on immigration visas is spot on, IMHO.
---
Michelle Malkin: nom, nom, nom, nom..

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (8SR1L)

360 Look at the Map of Africa. You can identify which nations were run by England and which were not. Although they're all starting to fall apart, the English colonies were the ones which were more prosperous, more advanced, more stable, and had better governments. The ones never colonized are still practically stone age.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:33 PM (39g3+)



I was about to add that, but neglected it. The British were also better Colonialists than the French, Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, Belgians, and Germans (and I mean the Kaiser, not the Fuhrer, with them)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (ujg0T)

361 So this morning, AM Joe said, "I'm sounding more like a Democrat every morning."
...............

He's transitioning?

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (HgMAr)

362 Somebody call Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell. They seem to think people want more immigrants and they are in a weak negotiating position.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (8k0tb)

363 This bot-ness will get out of control! It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it!

Posted by: Adm. Josh Painter (The Hunt for Red Bot-tober) at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (6DDWJ)

364 347. Chinese company operates in former Belgian colony of Congo. Hilarity ensues:

https://youtu.be/1a-QpyF7rNc

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at January 23, 2018 03:41 PM (fA1SL)

365 When did lefties turn into General Minderbender or whoever the F that was that was worried about the Rooskies in catch 22?
-----------

Trump is the ultimate American success story. And unabashedly pro American.

The Left needed something to instantly disassociate him with America. They initially tried it racially with Germany through his name. When that didn't catch on, they went to Russia. At its root it is all hypnosis and persuasion.

Posted by: Mega at January 23, 2018 03:42 PM (VY0PM)

366 Shithole.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 23, 2018 03:10 PM (k2yk7)


I'll try not to say "hey, look around you assholes...shithole." Only becuse of my lovely Heidi.

Thanks all for suggestion......MAGA MAGA sounds good too.

And Anna I will keep your suggestion as the 'nuclear option'. LOL!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 23, 2018 03:42 PM (BDRZm)

367 H1b reform was something Trump promised and then reneged earlier this month. It was such an easy layup and yet he gave in to Silicon Valley pressure. The same h1bs who work at twitter and do all they can to sabotage onservatives.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 23, 2018 03:42 PM (E9/rS)

368 If I don't report back later you know the install went horribly wrong.

I expect him back with no eyebrows.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2018 03:42 PM (39g3+)

369 So this morning, AM Joe said, "I'm sounding more like a Democrat every morning."

Yeah. Neil Young.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 23, 2018 03:42 PM (oVJmc)

370 >>>I'm not cranky in the least.

Well, so long as you are in touch with your feelings, thats what counts.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:42 PM (nJuW/)

371 There is no "Black Way" to pick up the trash.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:36 PM (ujg0T)



But under time-reversal symmetry ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 03:43 PM (FLuaE)

372 The blame for high speed rail doesnt belong to Brown. Corrupt and incompetent mangament, sure, but it's the fault of CA voters who approved the thing through a ballot measure.

A majority of CA voters see a bond measure, think "magic free money" and approve them like clockwork.

Best case scenario: when it implodes people will wisen up to the real costs of rubber stamping tens of billions in bonds.

Posted by: Sjg at January 23, 2018 03:43 PM (gDSJf)

373 >>> If I don't report back later you know the install went horribly wrong.

If the stove lands ten miles away, you did it wrong.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:43 PM (nJuW/)

374 >>Well, so long as you are in touch with your feelings, thats what counts.

You should go back to obsessing about a moderately attractive B level actress. That was your comfort zone.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2018 03:43 PM (/tuJf)

375 The upper edge of Millenials are starting to push 40. I've seen several articles about people in the tech industry discussing needing to get Botox and their hair dyed and on and on and on because Silicon Valley, that bastion of tolerance, is so brutally ageist and by ageist I mean everyone over 30 knows nothing, John Snow.

Like the beginning of the "blow up Mark Zuckerberg" mission in GTA V. Good times.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2018 03:44 PM (3J/LN)

376 >>>You should go back to obsessing about a moderately attractive B level actress.

Go back?
You really arent very good at this, are you?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Huge Yakman Lookalike at January 23, 2018 03:45 PM (nJuW/)

377 My bete noire is Somalia.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2018 02:53 PM (FLuaE)

ISWYDT.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2018 03:46 PM (wYseH)

378 106 I am only a second generation born American. I am close to calling for my deportation the situation is so bad.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 23, 2018 02:57 PM (zoyKY)
--------------------------
I am a first generation LEGAL immigrant and agree with you.
I would go back to where I came from if it meant a drastic change in immigration law and practice.

Deport illegals,including minors.
Stop chain migration.
Stop birthright citizenship.
Drastically reduce legal immigration and make it truly merit-based.
No welfare for non-citizens. No special treatment.
No affirmative action for ANY immigrant.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 23, 2018 03:47 PM (0jtPF)

379 The upper edge of Millenials are starting to push 40. I've seen several articles about people in the tech industry discussing needing to get Botox and their hair dyed and on and on and on because Silicon Valley, that bastion of tolerance, is so brutally ageist and by ageist I mean everyone over 30 knows nothing, John Snow.

If guys in their late 30's are worrying about botox and hair dye, we have even bigger problems coming our way in a few years that we realize....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2018 03:47 PM (7uYFy)

380 But what we want really does not matter...

That has been shown time and time again...

Our Elected Aristocracy in Washington knows better then We, the People...

/spit

Posted by: Don Q. at January 23, 2018 03:48 PM (NgKpN)

381 The Russian Bots are coming from inside my brain!

Posted by: Dianne Feinstein at January 23, 2018 03:27 PM


THEN WHO WAS BOT?!!!!!

Posted by: PHONE at January 23, 2018 03:48 PM (p+Wdc)

382 Posted by: Under Fire at January 23, 2018 03:39 PM (r9UYA)
__________


For the appropriate nic, you are awarded 5 internets.

Posted by: IP at January 23, 2018 03:49 PM (/fNs2)

383 We should ban all immigration from Somalia, immediately.
Probably Haiti too. Just about anyone from that shithole who has anything to contribute to this country is already here.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2018 03:49 PM (7uYFy)

384 I don't know about RUSSIAN BOTS, but the "gentleman's club" I used to frequent was loaded with awesome female RUSSIAN BODS....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2018 03:50 PM (7uYFy)

385 379 The upper edge of Millenials are starting to push 40. I've seen several articles about people in the tech industry discussing needing to get Botox and their hair dyed and on and on and on because Silicon Valley, that bastion of tolerance, is so brutally ageist and by ageist I mean everyone over 30 knows nothing, John Snow.

If guys in their late 30's are worrying about botox and hair dye, we have even bigger problems coming our way in a few years that we realize....
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2018 03:47 PM (7uYFy)

Try being over 50 and looking for a Tech job...

They don't care about experience over all... they only care about expertise in one specific skill... one product...

Plus, they think you won't work for the low wages younger people will work for (even though they don't bother to ask)...

Then add in the shops that are all one Ethnic group... who literally won't hire you unless you speak their language???

Posted by: Don Q. at January 23, 2018 03:51 PM (NgKpN)

386 Can anyone give me a rational reason why we need a single Uzbek immigrant? Anyone? Any skills they offer we don't have in abundance? ...
Posted by: Dean Wormer at January 23, 2018 02:51 PM (fftfA)


Don't feed them or give them vodka. The Uzbeks --- the weak link in the chain of socialism.

Posted by: 3C-P Television Moscow at January 23, 2018 03:51 PM (5Yee7)

387 Try being over 50 and looking for a Tech job...
---x
That's my husband...almost 6 months of looking and getting no where

Posted by: lin-duh at January 23, 2018 03:53 PM (kufk0)

388 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 23, 2018 03:47 PM (0jtPF)

Yeah... well... my Forefathers actually created this country...

Set it up pretty good...

Now? The social contract they set up, called the Constitution, has been abrogated by the Government so many times... its now moot.

Posted by: Don Q. at January 23, 2018 03:53 PM (NgKpN)

389 372 The blame for high speed rail doesn't belong to Brown. Corrupt and incompetent management, sure, but it's the fault of CA voters who approved the thing through a ballot measure.

A majority of CA voters see a bond measure, think "magic free money" and approve them like clockwork.

Best case scenario: when it implodes people will wise up to the real costs of rubber stamping tens of billions in bonds.
Posted by: Sjg at January 23, 2018 03:43 PM (gDSJf)



If I have learned anything living in CA, it is that all too often Citizen Voter Initiatives are a bad thing, the outlier of Proposition 13 (197 notwithstanding.

All too often they are "bait and switch", like "water supply" projects which involve buying more "Watershed Area" for wildlife and not a single dam built.

And also they are budgetary straitjackets, like the one that demands a certain percentage for the schools from the General Fund, no matter what else happens that year and never mind special taxes like the California Lottery go entirely to schools (or once did? It was sold to us that way in the 1980's anyway).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 23, 2018 03:55 PM (ujg0T)

390 Then add in the shops that are all one Ethnic group... who literally won't hire you unless you speak their language???

Posted by: Don Q. at January 23, 2018 03:51 PM


But diversity is our Strength!

Posted by: Berkeley SJW at January 23, 2018 03:57 PM (ctuyM)

391 So Schumer just withdrew the funding for the wall that he didn't offer in the first place.




I guess that means that DACA is dead and Trump didn't kill it.



Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 23, 2018 03:37 PM (e8kgV)



Schmucky can't withdraw anything without Turtle's tacit approval.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 23, 2018 03:58 PM (geAkB)

392 "Zero out H1b altogether."

Good call.

Posted by: That one guy at January 23, 2018 04:01 PM (ml7/e)

393 "Isn't it a requirement to obtain an H1B visa that the firm attests that no US candidate is available?"

------------

It's another one of those regulation that sound good on paper but nobody enforces it, or even checks. In California it is now illegal to even check.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2018 04:02 PM (/3+Sg)

394 "Jim Rybicki notified me last month that he will be leaving the FBI to accept an opportunity in the corporate sector," said Director Wray, adding "While this is an exciting move for the whole Rybicki family, Jim will be dearly missed by the FBI family -- and by me personally. His many years of dedication to the Bureau and (Justice Department), his level-headed judgment and earnest professionalism, and his steady good cheer have been an asset to us all and have contributed greatly to the safety and security of our nation."

----------

This is a parody, right?

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2018 04:03 PM (/3+Sg)

395 "Just imagine the American economy with no illegal alien labor and only 5-10% of the current number of H1-B visas?

The IT profession in America has been ruined by H1-B visas. If you are over 50, unless you have a completely unique and hard to replicate skillset, they are going to lay you off and hire an H1-B visa holder to do your job in a completely crappy and impossible to maintain manner--but, hey, it's cheap and DIVERSITY SQUEE!"


this is so true and it hardly ever gets talked about

Posted by: Shoey at January 23, 2018 04:03 PM (bBE6d)

396 It's another one of those regulation that sound good
on paper but nobody enforces it, or even checks. In California it is
now illegal to even check.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2018 04:02 PM (/3+Sg)

Like illegals under Obama?

Posted by: X-ray at January 23, 2018 04:04 PM (xixZa)

397 "Try being over 50 and looking for a Tech job...
---x
That's my husband...almost 6 months of looking and getting no where"


tell me about it, I've filled out enough applications to fill a library and I've gotten exactly 1 call back.

Posted by: Shoey at January 23, 2018 04:06 PM (bBE6d)

398 Before Jeff Sessions became such a disappointment (so far) as AG, he was the absolute master in outlining H1B-abuse in Silicon Valley from the floor of the Senate.

If he were still there, we'd be up a Senate seat right now.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2018 04:15 PM (MMnmO)

399 I guess that immigration poll proves that 54 percent of respondents support Republicans on the generic ballot for November. Unless many members of the anti-Trump resistance are schizophrenic.

Posted by: mercenary13 at January 23, 2018 04:19 PM (tTh1L)

400 As I wrote in the previous thread, we should be requiring companies use O visas instead of H1-B visas.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 23, 2018 04:19 PM (rdl6o)

401 Stop mocking the Russian bots. They are real. Think things through.
It is clear there is no Russian collusion, yet the bots keep going.
They are pushing a pro-Trump line.
My suspicion is that at some point when the Russia collusion delusion dies down,
Russia will then produce 'witnesses' to declare the story is true! More chaos.

Or perhaps they will merely blackmail Trump with the threat?

Posted by: MikeN at January 23, 2018 04:20 PM (o/eHL)

402 Stop mocking the Russian bots. They are real.


I'm not saying it's aliens but, it's aliens.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2018 04:27 PM (QQ+il)

403 While we should still fight for it, I think it's over. I was active in the anti-illegal immigration movement for a long time back in California. I remember when we cheered the 1986 agreement, because we thought the law would actually be enforced, we didn't realized Ted Kennedy's lawyers made sure it was toothless.

I moved out of California in 1997, and even then it was a third world hell hole. Unfortunately, here in Virginia you are seeing 1984 levels of immigration. It's why Nevada and New Mexico are blue, and partially why Colorado is (stupid liberal Californians who lurved them some illegals started moving to Colorado and Nevada and brought their horrible left wing voting patterns with them, like locusts.)

When immigrants arrive in huge groups, it's almost impossible to assimilate them. And the GOPe is too dumb to realize that "cheap labor" is making them in minority party - or maybe they know and don't care. But I am very pessimistic, we should have done something in the Bush II administration, I think we've run out of time.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at January 23, 2018 04:38 PM (6k9X+)

404 You'll get much, much more immigration and you'll like it. Now shut up and go pay your taxes. Oh, and if you're white, just take the fucking hint and die already.
- The Government

Posted by: FaCubeItches at January 23, 2018 04:39 PM (rznWS)

405 "Please check out the O visa, which should be used instead of the HB visas now being abused. There is no limitation on O visas, but the candidate has to have special skills that aren't readily available from American citizens. "

No, sorry. INS didn't want to let Linus Torvalds in because they doubted he had special skills. Meanwhile they're running a "diversity lottery" to bring in people sworn to slit our throats...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 23, 2018 05:16 PM (xML98)

406 willowed for certain, but
Americans (yea, white guys) have and will continue to write the very best software. No question about that and yes based on personal experience.
And I are one.

Posted by: micky at January 23, 2018 06:16 PM (dF9Lb)

407 Of course a large majority want less legal immigration overall. That follows directly from the desire to end chain immigration. A whopping 70% of all legal immigration is chain immigration!

A majority are probably for more immigration of people who would bring needed skills and be patriotic, but that takes more questions to break out.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at January 23, 2018 06:21 PM (AphMS)

408 And Harvard-Harris is a lib poll if there ever was one. I'm surprised it didn't say 99% want more of those lovely Muslim rapeugees along with those Dreamy Dreamers.

Posted by: wannabeanglican at January 23, 2018 08:06 PM (0qiZp)

409 Comment of the day nominee:

11 Put me in the Only Hot Chicks Can Immigrate column.


No Fatties.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at January 23, 2018 08:09 PM (0qiZp)

410 So, 44% want

35% for 1-250k + the 9% that prefer ZERO.

And most elected R's still think the future of their Party depends on passing Amnesty.

Insane.

Posted by: Aarradin at January 24, 2018 05:08 AM (5kvQv)

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