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Francisco José de Goya y Luciente

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1
Goya. Oh boy-a...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2018 09:28 AM (mbhDw)

2 Ain't much there, but I'm still peeking down her dress.

Posted by: Bruce at January 17, 2018 09:28 AM (8ikIW)

3 Jesus, did he mean for people to actually like that?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 17, 2018 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

4 Well, that's a nice bit of nightmare fuel.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Sleep Tight with A Comey Shred-N-Burn from the Outrage Outlet! at January 17, 2018 09:29 AM (hLRSq)

5 Thats dark

Posted by: Downcast at January 17, 2018 09:29 AM (dje6x)

6
Now that, that is truly disturbing.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 17, 2018 09:29 AM (8O3HH)

7 Well, that's a nice bit of nightmare fuel.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH

Looks like a fever dream

Posted by: Bruce at January 17, 2018 09:29 AM (8ikIW)

8
Samantha Power being read a bedtime story at her Hillary victory party!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2018 09:29 AM (mbhDw)

9 Chelsea's Wedding?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 17, 2018 09:30 AM (oVJmc)

10
The one with the book looks like the pig-faces from that Twilight Zone episode...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2018 09:30 AM (mbhDw)

11 And where is the little baby new year?

Posted by: Downcast at January 17, 2018 09:30 AM (dje6x)

12 I think the dude was depressed....

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2018 09:30 AM (LiyEm)

13 Ain't much there, but I'm still peeking down her dress.
Posted by: Bruce

Hasn't been much there for 60+ years.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 09:30 AM (fXB+v)

14 Senora Havisham.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 09:30 AM (+lOpA)

15 Should I or should I not

Posted by: CANKLES 2040 at January 17, 2018 09:30 AM (4u7kU)

16 So which poster yesterday gave CBD the Goya suggestion? Please, no more suggestions.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 17, 2018 09:31 AM (N3JsI)

17 That SOB robs us of one thing after another.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 17, 2018 09:31 AM (cp1if)

18 Samantha Power being read a bedtime story at her Hillary victory party!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Threadwinner at comment 8!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 09:31 AM (fXB+v)

19 Hillary and Valerie Jarrett reading the Spanish version of "What Happened."

Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 17, 2018 09:31 AM (vg8iE)

20 looks like she's ready to go ...

Posted by: illiniwek at January 17, 2018 09:31 AM (otAqJ)

21 Time is the fire in which we burn.

Posted by: Tolian Soran at January 17, 2018 09:32 AM (vg8iE)

22 Goya! Oh-boya!

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (/qEW2)

23 Que tal?

How you doin?

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (+lOpA)

24 Prune people.

Posted by: Zod at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (Bdeb0)

25 I'm afraid I'll have to bow out of this one. It seems jarring after the news about Northernlurker's wife. I wish we had daffodils or something.

Posted by: grammie winger, snowed in at Skandi.com- at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (lwiT4)

26 What does the print on the tablet say? No habla espanol.

And yes, Goya seems to have been clinically depressed, as in carrying a pool of darkness in his soul depressed.

Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (RD7QR)

27 Looks like to me, the woman in white is at death's door and the creature on the left is the bad spirit and the man behind here is an angel. The painting is showing the struggle between the forces of good and evil.

Or it could just be a really weird painting.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (R5lpX)

28 A lot of his stuff is dark bit not all. His "La Maja Desnuda" is very pleasant

Posted by: Fastfreefall at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (Vy1CZ)

29 I'm with her ==>

Posted by: Grim Reaper at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (NF2Bf)

30 Sh*t. I Amy Schumer'd Sefton. Sorry about that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (/qEW2)

31
This guy did nudes as well, as I see. Duchess of Alba was thought to be one of his models.

He did other disturbing things as well.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (8O3HH)

32 So which poster yesterday gave CBD the Goya suggestion? Please, no more suggestions.
Posted by: never enough caffeine
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I meant for the lima beans...
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc62tx9d

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (cp1if)

33 Looks like Pelosi asking Hillary to sign her copy of "What Happened."

Posted by: red speck at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (6Krd7)

34 I bet that old broad has a story or two.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (pUDQf)

35 21 Time is the fire in which we burn.

No time toulouse

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (+lOpA)

36 It's not often you get to see Pelosi and Feinstein collaborating, - whipping up their witches brew.

Posted by: Fritz at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (2Mnv1)

37
The place they're in, whatever it is, is a shithole all right.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (8O3HH)

38 Oh, this is really interesting. I don't like it as a painting, I don't like in your face allegories, but I like it as in your face allegories.

The angel doesn't have a scythe, he has a broom. Is he sweeping away her sins, her deeds? Why a broom?

She's dying, she's in her wedding dress. OK. It's her memory of her best self. She has an arrow through her hair. Is that a cupid arrow?

And I'd like help with the Spanish. Isn't "que tal" just "what's up"? Is there more there?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (fuK7c)

39 Behind her

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (R5lpX)

40 Do I get to blame Bluebell, or me?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (2K6fY)

41
I'm afraid I'll have to bow out of this one. It seems jarring after the news about Northernlurker's wife.

Agreed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (3GMnj)

42 Alternate Title:

Nancy Pelosi Meets with her Political Advisors

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 17, 2018 09:35 AM (Fb9aZ)

43 Good old Miss Havasham.

Posted by: JAS at January 17, 2018 09:35 AM (7JbXq)

44 What the fuck am I clinging to ??

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at January 17, 2018 09:36 AM (4u7kU)

45
You want to ugly just look up the last Duchess of Alba who died in 2014. Man, that was nightmare fuel indeed.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 17, 2018 09:36 AM (8O3HH)

46 41
I'm afraid I'll have to bow out of this one. It seems jarring after the news about Northernlurker's wife.

Agreed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (3GMnj)

Ooof. I'm sure it was pre written, not intentional. There is comfort in the protection of angels though.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 17, 2018 09:36 AM (pUDQf)

47 35. Great hero of the Old West.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 09:37 AM (fA1SL)

48 Goya was a Romantic. Their art is about the reality of the human situation, not the noble ideal of the hero-worshiping NeoClassicists. The darker forces of life, nature and the mind were their inspiration.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 09:37 AM (nwqNw)

49 Que-tel! I remember those guys1 They came before even Bobby Mays.

Posted by: Eromero at January 17, 2018 09:37 AM (zLDYs)

50 Beetlejuice!

Posted by: BignJames at January 17, 2018 09:37 AM (0+nbW)

51 Senorita Havisham.

Posted by: JAS at January 17, 2018 09:37 AM (7JbXq)

52 Posted by: Kindltot at January 17, 2018 09:34 AM (2K6fY)

Bluebell.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 17, 2018 09:37 AM (wYseH)

53 CBD...I'm a tad worried about you.

Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2018 09:37 AM (Enq6K)

54 'We will consume your body after you die.'

Posted by: Shithole Funeral Director at January 17, 2018 09:38 AM (r9UYA)

55 Alternate title: Jimmy Durante in Drag.

And I agree with grammie and Hadrian. The morning's a little too sad. BBL.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 17, 2018 09:38 AM (kqsXK)

56 No way we're putting that on a can of beans!

Posted by: Goya at January 17, 2018 09:38 AM (7HtZB)

57
This looks like some sort of political editorial cartoon.

Goya must've been the Herblock of his day...

Lesse here...

"Que tal?" means "how are you?"

Yes, I see the Can-can dancer with leprosy is asking the Old Woman in the Wedding Dress "How Are You?' as Father Time is about to sweep them both away with his Broom of Sweeping Timeiness.

Of course!

But, to make sense the Old Woman in the Wedding Dressing needs to be balancing a chunk of Camembert on her head.

Oh, and there needs to be a little penguin in the right hand corner saying "Tricky Dick needs the broom too!"

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2018 09:39 AM (9q7Dl)

58
Ooof. I'm sure it was pre written, not intentional.

I know, so no criticism attaches. But, like grammie said, jarring.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2018 09:39 AM (cGH2y)

59 Oy a Goya.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 17, 2018 09:39 AM (oVJmc)

60

alt title:

Waiting For The Perfect Man and Other Bedtime Stories

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2018 09:39 AM (QLvwG)

61 Prayers up Northernlurker.....

Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2018 09:39 AM (Enq6K)

62 Time is the fire in which we burn.

"Time". That's a funny way to spell Chipotle.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 09:39 AM (fXB+v)

63 "I'm afraid I'll have to bow out of this one. It seems jarring after the news about Northernlurker's wife. I wish we had daffodils or something."
-Posted by: grammie winger, snowed in at Skandi.com- at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (lwiT4)

I agree.

*folds*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 09:40 AM (Ckg4U)

64 28 A lot of his stuff is dark bit not all. His "La Maja Desnuda" is very pleasant
Posted by: Fastfreefall at January 17, 2018 09:33 AM (Vy1CZ)

He got into a lot of trouble with that one, so he painted a second one fully clothed.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 09:40 AM (nwqNw)

65 Doesn't seem to be on her side.

Posted by: Mick Jaegermeister at January 17, 2018 09:40 AM (/qEW2)

66 What in the world is that and who would even hang it?

Posted by: auscolpyr at January 17, 2018 09:40 AM (suO/a)

67 eesh

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 09:40 AM (AJwk0)

68 Oprah and Debbie Wasserman Schultz review her speech to La Raza.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 17, 2018 09:40 AM (ATVNj)

69 Sorry...that post was suppose to go on the previous thread.

Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2018 09:40 AM (Enq6K)

70 What does the print on the tablet say? No habla espanol.

Que tal? is basically what's up, what's going on. It's an informal greeting you hear a lot.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2018 09:41 AM (iv0p7)

71
How about, "No"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2018 09:41 AM (tcamx)

72 'We will consume your body after you die.'
Posted by: ~~Shithole Funeral Director~~ Polynesian Pygmy Tribe

FIFY

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 09:41 AM (fXB+v)

73 Holy fuck, is that an ugly painting

Posted by: Dorian Gray at January 17, 2018 09:41 AM (7HtZB)

74 What does the print on the tablet say? No habla espanol.

Que tal? is basically what's up, what's going on. It's an informal greeting you hear a lot.
Posted by: bonhomme

Que zapening?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 09:42 AM (fXB+v)

75 1st in with "I'd hit it"?

Posted by: Rick in SK at January 17, 2018 09:43 AM (FZYNt)

76 Just one more shot of Botox. Trust me.

Posted by: Fritz at January 17, 2018 09:43 AM (2Mnv1)

77 So that selection is....morbid.
- - -
Carrying over from earlier thread, post by Jack Straw:

Looks like the State Dept .under Obama is now also under scrutiny for involvement with the Russia dossier.

https://tinyurl.com/ycolvexy

That's kind of a big deal - already DoJ, FBI and WH involved, and now State?
I'm thinking the impending govt. shutdown may well be an opportunity to clean out the DC stables....

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 09:43 AM (W+vEI)

78 Manuel: Si, que, what.

Mrs. Richards: C.K. Watt?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 17, 2018 09:43 AM (oVJmc)

79 Is that Cory Booker on the left?

Posted by: dantesed at January 17, 2018 09:43 AM (88xKn)

80 There are a lot of Goya paintings in the underrated Hispanic Society museum in NYC.

Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2018 09:43 AM (7HtZB)

81 Gonna get that painted on the side of my van!

Posted by: Uncle Rico at January 17, 2018 09:44 AM (bc2Lc)

82 It's not art. Most of Goya isn't art.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 17, 2018 09:44 AM (CPk08)

83 Somebody was hit with an ugly stick

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 17, 2018 09:45 AM (3/sUh)

84 You can't spell shart without art

Posted by: Hillary! at January 17, 2018 09:45 AM (FZYNt)

85 Is dat Mooch?

Posted by: yo at January 17, 2018 09:45 AM (MAstk)

86 Posted by: Publius Redux at January 17, 2018 09:35 AM (Fb9aZ)

I was thinking "Nancy Pelosi Holds Court" but I like your suggestion better.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 09:45 AM (7bkOX)

87 82 It's not art. Most of Goya isn't art.

What is art?

Discuss...

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 09:45 AM (+lOpA)

88 Ok those two are definitely dead.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 17, 2018 09:45 AM (72PAC)

89 Prayers up for Northernlurker, his family and his wife's friends as they mourn her earthly passing.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at January 17, 2018 09:46 AM (Ftuf+)

90 78. No! You hit him first! Bad moose!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 09:46 AM (fA1SL)

91 RE: The drunk plastic surgeon in the last thread.

Holy cow, way to shoot your foot off.

Dude is a West Pointer, Harvard medical, only board certified plastic surgeon in Lexington. Basically earned his brass ring wrapped in a golden ticket and then boom, stumping around in front of everyone. We'll see what happens, but I doubt it'll be good.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2018 09:46 AM (iv0p7)

92 See? The apple cider vinegar weight loss plan works!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 17, 2018 09:46 AM (ATVNj)

93 >>It's not art. Most of Goya isn't art.

Right, Goya is mostly canned beans, oils, olives, condiments...

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 09:46 AM (W+vEI)

94 Que tal, como esta?
Pero Luisa tiene catarro.

lines I still recall from my 2 years Spanish over 40 years ago. And something about aroz com pollo.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (otAqJ)

95 Whoa. That's some messed up shit right there.

Posted by: Henry Fuseli at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (/qEW2)

96 Actually she was Penelope Cruz when she was young.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (+lOpA)

97 I think the lady in black is supposed to be Death. Time sneaks up on us and sometimes Death seems like a friend. That may be a mirror Lady Death is holding, showing the old woman her reality. Death is kind here, convincing the woman to come with her.

Time is the one who shows malice. He is unforgiving, unmerciful. The women ignore him because he doesn't matter anymore.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nwqNw)

98 He finally finished the shelves

Posted by: Mrs. Ace at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (4u7kU)

99 Apparently, the latest Lefty conspiracy theory is that the Russians put Bradley/Chelsea Manning up to running for the Senate to troll the Democrats.

Posted by: blaster at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (Z5y53)

100 My wife was the chattiest, friendliest woman in the world. My world has gone silent. I don't know what I'll do,

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

101 What is art?

Discuss...
Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 09:45 AM (+lOpA)

Nothing to discuss. If it doesn't have trees, it's not art.

Cabins are always nice too.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (CPk08)

102 Ghastly.

Speaking of which-

Pope Francis Honors Dutch Abortion Activist with Pontifical Medal of Knighthood - BB

Posted by: Under Fire at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (r9UYA)

103 Goya went a little nuts in his later years... old, a widower, deaf, fatigued from witnessing years of war, and afraid of old age & death. His art went from beautiful to disturbing... in this painting he's more than likely showing the futility of fighting against the ravages of time, hence the grotesque characters.

Posted by: weew at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (EaEMG)

104 Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

Sorry for your loss, brother. Prayers for you and your family.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 09:48 AM (7bkOX)

105 "And yes, Goya seems to have been clinically depressed, as in carrying a pool of darkness in his soul depressed."

There's a very good reason for this, he lived through the complete destruction of what had been a very wealthy, powerful, and self entitled society. This shows up in most of his art (Such as 3rd of May, 1808, The Colossus, Saturn devouring his son)

Goya was born in 1746, at what was arguably the peak of the Spanish Empire. Madrid was wealthy, comfortable, and cultured. Then came the Age of Revolution, and the Napoleonic Wars. Spain was invaded, it's government destroyed, and the Peninsular War devastated much of the Spanish countryside as some sided with the English, and some sided with Napoleon. With Spain's military power destroyed the colonies all revolted and Spain was left penniless and shattered.

The old woman in the painting above may be, metaphorically speaking, Goya's depiction of Spain herself in 1820 (the date of the painting)

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (V2Yro)

106 Looks like the bus riders in San Fernando Valley.

Posted by: Adobe Juan Kenobe at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (Hgw5D)

107 It's not art. Most of Goya isn't art.

What is art?

Discuss...
Posted by: eleven

Trees. Nekkid bewbies.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (fXB+v)

108 Which one is Fate?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (3NjrP)

109 Goya was fascinating. He was a court painter to the Spanish crown before the Napoleonic wars, he was pretty much a court painter to the pro-French court during the first part of the wars, was patronized by the French in a small way, and when he fell out of favor he then did his series "The Horrors of War" as a series of engravings, these are seen as pro-guerilla work and as patriotic works supporting the Spanish against the French. As such he was considered with suspicion by the restored Bourbons after Napoleon and the French were beaten.

In a way he managed to surf the changing tides of the Napoleonic era far better than his patrons, who pretty much all were exiled, murdered or died in exile.

He was talented, and prolific, and though he did not do what would be considered photo-realistic work like Velasquez, he was very well thought of. His etchings and paintings of the Spanish war were both propaganda and a form of journalism.

I would point out that most of the etchings have descriptions in Spanish, and a surprising number of the descriptions are misspelled.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (2K6fY)

110 and tides wait on no man

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (BtQd4)

111 Not well timed after Northernlurker's sad news. I'll catch y'all later.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (lLeln)

112 I am Art.

Posted by: Mr. Linkletter at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (ATVNj)

113
Itsa allegory, about life, the universe, everything.

Posted by: Walter Luckless at January 17, 2018 09:50 AM (GroCc)

114 >>It's not art. Most of Goya isn't art.

Right, Goya is mostly canned beans, oils, olives, condiments...

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 09:46 AM (W+vEI)

Either in the International aisle or the Latin America aisle.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2018 09:50 AM (QLvwG)

115 Pope Francis Honors Dutch Abortion Activist with Pontifical Medal of Knighthood - BB

Pretty sure that had I not fled the catholic church in protest of the leftist USCCB back in 2013 this particular king of Vatican City would have driven me out long before now.

Their church, his rules. But I don't have to play by them.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 09:50 AM (7bkOX)

116 3 Jesus, did he mean for people to actually like that?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 17, 2018 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

Goya was not about "please 'like' my paintings." He meant to disturb people.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2018 09:51 AM (ZM2xo)

117 The dude in the back is an angel of Mercy. Father Time didn't have wings.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 17, 2018 09:51 AM (R5lpX)

118 That's my late mother-in-law working on her will with her lawyers.

Posted by: Jwest at January 17, 2018 09:51 AM (/roJx)

119 100 My wife was the chattiest, friendliest woman in the world. My world has gone silent. I don't know what I'll do,
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

I feel really really bad for you.

Talk to somebody. If you have a church, go there. If you have a relative, talk to them. If you have any family, any close friends, talk to them. Keep going.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 17, 2018 09:51 AM (CPk08)

120 The old woman in the painting above may be, metaphorically speaking, Goya's depiction of Spain herself in 1820 (the date of the painting)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (V2Yro)

Yes, that is possible. Spain is depicted as a ravaged woman many times in Los Capricios and the Horrors of War. Allegories are notoriously deep and complex. They also have hidden meanings many times.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 09:52 AM (nwqNw)

121 What is art?

Discuss...

That's a completely unfair question, but it's unfair in the good way so I'll jump in.

I say that art is "what happens at the intersection of the work and the audience". So, it doesn't matter what the artist's motivations or politics were or what he was trying to provoke. What matters is what the viewer feels. Art moves you.

But then you get the difference between art and beauty. A sunset also moves you. Catching a striped bass on a fly you tied yourself moves you, unless you're an asshole. So, is God beauty but not art?

Does art require a human consciousness intending to provoke a human emotion? I'm going with that, for now, if we choose to debate this.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 09:53 AM (fuK7c)

122 My wife was the chattiest, friendliest woman in the world. My world has gone silent. I don't know what I'll do,

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

Are you alone now? Can you call someone to come over and stay with you for a while?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2018 09:53 AM (QLvwG)

123 Time is not on my side.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2018 09:53 AM (IqV8l)

124 100 My wife was the chattiest, friendliest woman in the world. My world has gone silent. I don't know what I'll do,

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

My sister suffered the loss of her husband, my wonderful BIL in September, and we are still grieving, so I have some slight inkling of what you are going though. Again, my prayers for you.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2018 09:53 AM (ZM2xo)

125 Which one is Fate?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz!

The one who shoves it's fickle finger up your ass?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 09:53 AM (fXB+v)

126 "My wife was the chattiest, friendliest woman in the world. My world has gone silent. I don't know what I'll do."
-Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

The internet is no place for shock and grief. Hie thee to thy nearest friend. Lacking that, I will speak with you for as long as you need.

My email is in my nic. I will send you my phone #.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 09:54 AM (Ckg4U)

127 It's not art. Most of Goya isn't art.

What is art?

Discuss...

I'm in the "if it reveals truth about the human condition, it's art" camp. I despise the "if it creates an emotional response" shock "art" camp. I could see how one might argue this is just meant to shock a response, but personally, I think it reveals truth about the human condition.

Looks to me as if the aged woman there takes care of herself, but time has laid her low. She takes care to dress herself with class and beauty. She has a good friend beside her. Heaven is just over her shoulder. There's ugliness, sure, and maybe morbid humor, but the story it's telling me is beautiful. She lived a good life and is about to be accepted into heaven.

That's what I see.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2018 09:55 AM (iv0p7)

128 I prefer white ottoman guy to this one.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 17, 2018 09:55 AM (RfzVr)

129 Art moves you.

Ahhh. So Chipotle burritos are art.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 09:55 AM (fXB+v)

130 Prayers of peace Northernlurker.

Posted by: IP at January 17, 2018 09:55 AM (/fNs2)

131 Every time I call up the Weather Channel now I get script errors and half the time the computer locks up. Is anyone else having problems with that site?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 17, 2018 09:55 AM (mpXpK)

132 Yes, Northnlurker, go to a church. Any church. There's comfort in the Word.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2018 09:56 AM (QLvwG)

133 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 09:53 AM (fuK7c)

Well...you're forgetting simple Provocation in that formula.

You can provoke feelings easily, for instance- drop a crucifix in a jar of urine.

It's provocation.

But, is it Art?

Nope.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2018 09:56 AM (9q7Dl)

134 2020 Democratic Presidential Campaign Committee.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at January 17, 2018 09:56 AM (3NjrP)

135 126 "My wife was the chattiest, friendliest woman in the world. My world has gone silent. I don't know what I'll do."
-Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

The internet is no place for shock and grief. Hie thee to thy nearest friend. Lacking that, I will speak with you for as long as you need.

My email is in my nic. I will send you my phone #.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 09:54 AM (Ckg4U)

This is good advice.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 17, 2018 09:57 AM (CPk08)

136 Alternate Title: Samantha Powers and Gloria Steinem Examine the Early Returns

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2018 09:57 AM (KfgLN)

137
Apparently, the latest Lefty conspiracy theory is that the Russians put Bradley/Chelsea Manning up to running for the Senate to troll the Democrats.

Posted by: blaster

Is that why we have Corey Booker?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2018 09:57 AM (IqV8l)

138 I'm sorry for your loss, Northernlurker.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 09:57 AM (+lOpA)

139 The problem with the concept of "New California" (the reddish-purple counties that want to secede from the rest of the state) is that they may start-out as a purple-ish shade of Red but they'll eventually turn blue as the freaks flee the socialist paradise left behind by the secession.

C.f.: Colorado, Nevada, New Hampshire

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 09:57 AM (7bkOX)

140 I'm an artist so not really caught up in debates about the definition of art. (unless tax money pays for it.)

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 09:57 AM (AJwk0)

141 That's what happens to women who ride around on pigs for 45 years.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 17, 2018 09:57 AM (ATVNj)

142 I am intrigued by the nature of creativity though.

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (AJwk0)

143 I have lots of support by the way. Thanks for your prayers.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (nBr1j)

144 "Death is kind here, convincing the woman to come with her.
Time is the one who shows malice. He is unforgiving, unmerciful. The women ignore him because he doesn't matter anymore."Posted by: Kris

good points. Some cowboys prefer to go out with their boots on, hospice has been mostly a good thing.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (otAqJ)

145 Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.

The brochure, due to be sent to 4.7m households, will inform the public how they can take part in "total defence" during a war and secure water, food and heating.

The booklet with the working title If Crisis or War Comes will also give guidance on dealing with threats from cyber attacks, terrorism and climate change, the FT reported.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (e8kgV)

146 @137 Probably

I like the fact that (some portion of) the Left thinks that Manning is a bad candidate. It is telling that they think that he/she would be attractive to enough on the Left to make it a bad thing.

At the same time, the truly batshit Left is going nuclear on Ben Cardin, calling him an AIPAC shill and privileged old white man.

Dis gone be good.

Posted by: blaster at January 17, 2018 10:00 AM (Z5y53)

147 Pelosi finally found out what's in the Obamacare bill

Posted by: jsg at January 17, 2018 10:01 AM (XTXXB)

148 117 The dude in the back is an angel of Mercy. Father Time didn't have wings.
Posted by: Traveling Man at January 17, 2018 09:51 AM (R5lpX)

Father Time has been depicted many times with wings. Here is one from Goya's own lifetime.

https://tinyurl.com/y93pnytd

The broom is interesting. It could be Mercy, but Mercy is usually show as female. But since Goya is depicting Death as female, he could be switching the sexes. Unusual, but not unheard of.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 10:01 AM (nwqNw)

149 >>131 Every time I call up the Weather Channel now I get script errors and half the time the computer locks up. Is anyone else having problems with that site?

I had script problems with Weather Channel last year. I use Dark Sky now for weather reports.

Posted by: Under Fire at January 17, 2018 10:01 AM (r9UYA)

150 The booklet with the working title If Crisis or War Comes will also give guidance on dealing with threats from cyber attacks, terrorism and climate change, the FT reported.

So....completely unserious to the bitter end.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 10:01 AM (+lOpA)

151 Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

Do you have anyone with you? Can you go to someone?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 17, 2018 10:02 AM (wYseH)

152 >>What is art?

Discuss...

"Soup?"
*Campbell's soup can*

"Art?"
*Andy Warhol painting of a Campbell's soup can*

-- Trudy,The Search For Signs Of Intelligent Life In The Universe

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 10:02 AM (W+vEI)

153 OK, I was chastised at first but I'm going to dig in with my "art is what happens at the intersection of the work and the viewer" argument.

Sure, Piss Christ is a provocation and it pushes buttons so you get simple emotion. That doesn't make it art because the viewer knows that it's just a provocation.

Art hits you in a place you feel but can't describe well. Art gets under your skin.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:03 AM (fuK7c)

154 My wife was the chattiest, friendliest woman in the world. My world has gone silent. I don't know what I'll do,

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)
===========================

Northernlurker - do you have church family? Someone who can come and just walk this day with you? Daily bread. Don't worry about tomorrow's bread. He will supply what you need for this horrible day. Lean on Him. He has strong arms. Collapse if you need to. He will hold you up. But sometimes it's necessary to have Jesus with skin on. That's where a friend or another family member can help you. There are no expectations of you today. You do not have to be strong.
You are loved.

Posted by: grammie winger, snowed in at Skandi.com- at January 17, 2018 10:03 AM (lwiT4)

155 Time, he flexes like a whore
Falls wanking to the floor
His trick is you and me, boy

Posted by: David Bowie at January 17, 2018 10:03 AM (KfgLN)

156 Death as female, he could be switching the sexes.
__________________________________

So, Death is gender confused too?

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at January 17, 2018 10:03 AM (ATVNj)

157 I have lots of support by the way.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (nBr1j)

Good!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 17, 2018 10:03 AM (wYseH)

158 Can I have some soup?

Posted by: Art at January 17, 2018 10:04 AM (ATVNj)

159 What is art?

Discuss...

****
If you think it's art, it is; if not, it isn't.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 10:05 AM (nwqNw)

160 Just read VDH in the sidebar. That's a good one, not his usual dry, academic style.

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2018 10:05 AM (2z74n)

161 Goya never seemed very interesting or skilled on a merely visual level (to me at any rate). He's like a pundit who expresses himself through art. The concepts are what is important.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 17, 2018 10:05 AM (/qEW2)

162 "Clint Eastwood has won an appeal to overturn the R rating originally assigned to his upcoming film, The 15:17 to Paris. Instead, it will be rated PG-13. According to a source, the R rating was given for the train attack scene at the center of the film, which the Classification and Rating Administration described as 'a sequence of violence and bloody images,'" reported Hollywood Reporter.

They added, "The Classification and Rating Appeals Board says it reviews 800 to 900 films each year, with fewer than 12 ratings a year appealed. Eastwood represented his own film on behalf of Warner Bros., which opens the film in theaters on Feb. 9."

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 10:05 AM (e8kgV)

163 It's not art. Most of Goya isn't art.

What is art?

Discuss...

It most certainly is art. Something drove him to apply pigments to a canvas, with a great amount of skill unlike many contemporary numbnuts poseurs, and present it to the world as a finished product. Just because you might have a negative opinion of it doesn't invalidate it; in fact it might be exactly his intended reaction.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 17, 2018 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

164 143 I have lots of support by the way. Thanks for your prayers.
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (nBr1j)

This is good to hear. Please feel the love and support of your digital family.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 17, 2018 10:06 AM (Dp6qK)

165 Amish Donut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q32oFOjlWh8

Posted by: jsg at January 17, 2018 10:06 AM (XTXXB)

166 Northernlurker, my sincerest condolences. Like grammie said, we are here for you. Lean on us.

Posted by: fly gal at January 17, 2018 10:06 AM (jOLtT)

167 Prayers for you northernlurker. I'm so very sorry for your loss. {hugs}

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 17, 2018 10:06 AM (zRZaJ)

168 Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:47 AM (nBr1j)

Reach out to whoever you can - friends, family, church if applicable, and there's alway us Morons. Whatever you do, don't go it alone.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 17, 2018 10:07 AM (VuJJJ)

169 Table for one.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 17, 2018 10:07 AM (QQ+il)

170 With the reading of their own version of a Declaration of Independence, founders of the state of New California took the first steps to what they hope will eventually lead to statehood.

To be clear, they don't want to leave the United States, just California.
-WZ

Yes!

Posted by: Under Fire at January 17, 2018 10:07 AM (r9UYA)

171 Willowed:

When considering this, it's useful to consider events like

Cromwell's takeover - everyone in that movement sincerely believed that

they were curing the great abuses in their society that a corrupt

nobility had taken for granted for centuries - BUT the solution turned

out to be far worse.

There are people who sensing the winds of change take the opportunity to brew up a storm.

If you are bailing out a boat you will necessarily rock it some - there
are people who will rock the boat in rhythm with you. Their purpose is
not to bail the boat out but to use your bailing as an excuse to rock
the boat.

Just because somebody gets behind you in your cause
does not mean they are pushing the same way you are - often they are
there to stab you in the back.

In other words you have to watch your allies harder than you watch your enemies.

You would think people would have learned these things by watching the RNCe over the years.

Posted by: An Observation at January 17, 2018 10:07 AM (5MLH0)

172 The immigration deal that Miss Lindsey and the other RINOs came up with, with the commie's on the left is absurd. Lindsey can go fuck himself. Is he fuckin sick?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2018 10:07 AM (SjImc)

173 Art to me was just a means to an end. I wanted to develop a talent in order to profit from it. In so doing my right brain became engaged and hilarity ensued. That's what art means to me.

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 10:07 AM (AJwk0)

174 Some lawmakers would like to see the Justice Department prosecute former spy chief James Clapper for inaccurate testimony to Congress about domestic surveillance before it's too late.

Privacy-conscious critics say looming five-year statutes of limitation for perjury and making false statements -- establishing a March 12 deadline for charges -- make an urgent case for action, and that nonprosecution would set a dangerous precedent that impedes oversight and executive-branch accountability.

Clapper, director of national intelligence from 2010 to 2017, testified during a March 2013 Senate Intelligence Committee hearing that the NSA was "not wittingly" collecting "any type of data at all" on millions of Americans. Months later, former NSA contractor Edward Snowden revealed secret court orders forced phone companies to turn over all U.S. call records on an "ongoing, daily basis."

In an apology letter, Clapper wrote that he gave a "clearly erroneous" answer because he "simply didn't think of" the call-record collection. But in an MSNBC interview he offered a different explanation, saying he gave the "least untruthful" answer because he was "asked a, 'When are you going to stop beating your wife?' kind of question, meaning not answerable necessarily by a simple yes or no."

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 10:08 AM (e8kgV)

175 143 I have lots of support by the way. Thanks for your prayers.
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (nBr1j)

That's good to know. This is not a time to try to tough things out by yourself, and this is a near-hermit telling you this.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 17, 2018 10:08 AM (VuJJJ)

176 Time takes a cigarette, puts it in your mouth ..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 17, 2018 10:08 AM (QQ+il)

177 May GOD Bless you and give you and your family Grace and Peace, Northernlunker. Even if we think we are prepared to let a loved one go we never really are. Makes it immeasurably hard when it's unexpected.

Posted by: Eromero at January 17, 2018 10:09 AM (zLDYs)

178 >> Is he fuckin sick?

Butt flu.

Posted by: Under Fire at January 17, 2018 10:09 AM (r9UYA)

179 "So, is God beauty but not art?"

Is there no Truth in Beauty?

Posted by: Kollos the Medusan at January 17, 2018 10:09 AM (V2Yro)

180 Father Time has been depicted many times with wings. Here is one from Goya's own lifetime.

https://tinyurl.com/y93pnytd

The broom is interesting. It could be Mercy, but Mercy is usually show as female. But since Goya is depicting Death as female, he could be switching the sexes. Unusual, but not unheard of.
Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 10:01 AM (nwqNw)

That was just my interpretation. Obviously yours is different. Ten people could look at the same painting and you might get ten different interpretations of what the artist was trying to portray.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 17, 2018 10:09 AM (R5lpX)

181 you pull on a finger, then another finger

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:09 AM (fuK7c)

182 after reading about northernlurkers' wife starting her journey to eternal life with our lord, my stupid comments are not in the best interest of this site today. i will pray for him, his loved ones and his wifes' soul. then, i will keep myself busy doing things that need done around here. i pray our friend has the strength to get through this. maybe this evening i'll check in.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 17, 2018 10:10 AM (KP5rU)

183 179 "So, is God beauty but not art?"

Is there no Truth in Beauty?
Posted by: Kollos the Medusan at January 17, 2018 10:09 AM (V2Yro)

Not in Hollywood.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 17, 2018 10:10 AM (VuJJJ)

184 140 I'm an artist so not really caught up in debates about the definition of art. (unless tax money pays for it.)
Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 09:57 AM (AJwk0)

Oh, you SAY that, but the minute anyone turns their back, you'rer making pictures of somebody's face, or of a peice of furniture or something, with no trees in it at all, and you'll try and foist it off as art. I know your type. "Don't try to chain me to your rules!" blah blah blah....Art has trees. End of story.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 17, 2018 10:10 AM (CPk08)

185 Northnlurker, go to a church. Any church. There's comfort in the Word.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2018 09:56 AM (QLvwG)

133 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 09:53 AM (fuK7c)
I
My pastor and his wife have already been here. The kids and grandkids are here. I just spoke to Slapweasel.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 10:10 AM (nBr1j)

186 Is this Ithaca or Peyton Place ...

The president of Ithaca College in upstate pleaded no contest to sexually abusing a patient when she worked at a psychiatric hospital nearly two decades ago.

Shirley M. Collado, who worked at The Center at the Psychiatric institute of Washington in D.C., was accused of having a five-month sexual relationship with a female patient who was undergoing therapy for post-traumatic stress in 2000, The Ithacan reported.

While Collado was convicted of one count of misdemeanor sexual abuse in August 2001 after pleading no contest, she has maintained her innocence, saying she didn't have the legal, financial and emotional resources to fight the case.

The patient, who was receiving treatment at The Center after she suffered the abuse of another doctor, alleged she and Collado kissed after a therapy session on May 20, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney Sharon Marcus-Kurn.

Collado fondled her on at least two occasions and the two kissed after most individual therapy sessions in the following weeks, according to the prosecutor.

Collado resigned from The Center after her husband committed suicide on July 9, 2000, and the patient moved in with her "shortly after" she was discharged from the hospital, according to court documents cited by the Ithacan.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 10:11 AM (e8kgV)

187 Advice to @PressSec (and she should listen to ME!) At briefing today have Dr Jackson administer Montreal Cognitive Test to press corps. I think @realDonaldTrump would approve this message! Oh and invite Sen Corey Booker and his pal T-Bone to be there.

Gov. Mike Huckabee

Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 17, 2018 10:12 AM (y3aQB)

188 >>174 Some lawmakers would like to see the Justice Department prosecute former spy chief James Clapper for inaccurate testimony to Congress about domestic surveillance before it's too late.

zzzzZZZZzzzz

Posted by: J. Sessions at January 17, 2018 10:12 AM (r9UYA)

189 Ten people could look at the same painting and you might get ten different interpretations of what the artist was trying to portray.

This, to me, is the beauty of the Art Thread. We're mostly idiots. I'm not even going to flatter us by calling us morons. We're idiots and we don't know anything (except for Kris) and we look at a picture and react to it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:12 AM (fuK7c)

190 186 Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 10:11 AM (e8kgV)

"If you like feeling Collado..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2018 10:13 AM (mbhDw)

191 The old woman in the painting above may be, metaphorically speaking, Goya's depiction of Spain herself in 1820 (the date of the painting)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 09:49 AM (V2Yro)

1820 was the year of a short lived revolution against the absolutist Spanish monarchy. Spain called for help from France, who sent the first iteration of the French Foreign Legion (the 100,000 Sons of St. Louis) to restore the king.

Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2018 10:13 AM (7HtZB)

192 174 Some lawmakers would like to see the Justice Department prosecute former spy chief James Clapper for inaccurate testimony to Congress about domestic surveillance before it's too late.

You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you will find
You don't get what you need either

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 17, 2018 10:13 AM (VuJJJ)

193 of the 80 questions asked at the press conference with Dr. Cutey McCuterson, by my oun 20 of them were about DJT's mental abilities.

Posted by: vivi at January 17, 2018 10:14 AM (11H2y)

194 chavez - you said it well. I think I'll follow your lead.

Northernlurker - I will be praying for you today - for comfort, for strength, for hope. You are loved. May God be with you today, and in the days to come. Blessings -

grammie

Posted by: grammie winger, snowed in at Skandi.com- at January 17, 2018 10:14 AM (lwiT4)

195
Anybody do any Electoral College math on a 'New California'. I imagine it would snitch about half. Too lazy to do the math.

It would certainly put a damper on the Democrats chances to ever take the WH again.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 17, 2018 10:14 AM (2FqvZ)

196 Art (creativity) is especially valuable in a therapeutic setting. The act of creating can be profoundly healing, whether drawing, painting, music, writing. When one uses visual art as therapy the output doesn't have to be representational.

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 10:15 AM (AJwk0)

197 BTW my faith is strong

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 10:15 AM (nBr1j)

198 190 186 Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 10:11 AM (e8kgV)

"If you like feeling Collado..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2018 10:13 AM (mbhDw)

And getting caught in the rain

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 17, 2018 10:15 AM (VuJJJ)

199 194; thanks grammie.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 17, 2018 10:15 AM (KP5rU)

200 Might be a very good idea to split up California with a non lunatic section remaining part of the US as a state,the rest revert to a territory...

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2018 10:16 AM (LiyEm)

201 145 Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.

The brochure, due to be sent to 4.7m households, will inform the public how they can take part in "total defence" during a war and secure water, food and heating.

The booklet with the working title If Crisis or War Comes will also give guidance on dealing with threats from cyber attacks, terrorism and climate change, the FT reported.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (e8kgV)

If the Russians took Gotland as a prelude to invading Estonia/Latvia there is damn little the Swedes could do about it. IIRC, the Swedish army could last for a few days before they would have to go over to guerrilla warfare.

Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at January 17, 2018 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

202 It would certainly put a damper on the Democrats chances to ever take the WH again.

They seem to be doing fine with that so far

Posted by: IP at January 17, 2018 10:17 AM (/fNs2)

203 I've just spoken with Northernlurker and what he could use is a "Go Fund Me" page right now.

I don't know how that works.

I fumbled about with P.O. Box or... something, so as not to reveal personal information.

I don't know. I simply don't know.

All I know is that My Brother is in trouble and he could afford some help.

If you know how to do this, email me.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 10:17 AM (Ckg4U)

204 When I was told about this painting, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I started crying tears of rage and hammering the table at the injustice and found it inexplicable how someone like you could sit in a room with that painting and ........

Line?

Posted by: Corey Booker, Master Thespian at January 17, 2018 10:17 AM (kfcYC)

205 Too soon to talk of a wall for New Cali?

Posted by: IP at January 17, 2018 10:17 AM (/fNs2)

206 If the Russians took Gotland as a prelude to invading Estonia/Latvia there is damn little the Swedes could do about it

No, no. This is the 21st century. An American president said "you can't redraw national boundaries with military force" in the 21st century.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:18 AM (fuK7c)

207 205 Too soon to talk of a wall for New Cali?

We're gonna need a bigger wall.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 10:18 AM (+lOpA)

208 203; Slap if something gets set up, please email me I would love to help anyway I can.

Thanks

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 17, 2018 10:19 AM (KP5rU)

209 I don't know. I simply don't know.

All I know is that My Brother is in trouble and he could afford some help.

If you know how to do this, email me.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 10:17 AM (Ckg4U)

Glad you spoke to him, such a sad day for him and his family.

Posted by: spypeach at January 17, 2018 10:19 AM (myc22)

210 found it inexplicable how someone like you could sit in a room with that painting and...

... still not pay attention to me and my abusive ranting!

Posted by: IP at January 17, 2018 10:19 AM (/fNs2)

211 204 When I was told about this painting, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I started crying tears of rage and hammering the table at the injustice and found it inexplicable how someone like you could sit in a room with that painting and ........

Line?
Posted by: Corey Booker, Master Thespian at January 17, 2018 10:17 AM (kfcYC)

masturbate.

duh.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 17, 2018 10:19 AM (CPk08)

212 Goya? I always avoid that aisle.

Posted by: Corona at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (88+VL)

213 201 145 Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.

The brochure, due to be sent to 4.7m households, will inform the public how they can take part in "total defence" during a war and secure water, food and heating.

The booklet with the working title If Crisis or War Comes will also give guidance on dealing with threats from cyber attacks, terrorism and climate change, the FT reported.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (e8kgV)

If the Russians took Gotland as a prelude to invading Estonia/Latvia there is damn little the Swedes could do about it. IIRC, the Swedish army could last for a few days before they would have to go over to guerrilla warfare.
Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at January 17, 2018 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

Wouldn't Russia have to go through Finland to get to Sweden? I think the Finns may have something to say about that.

Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (7HtZB)

214 This, to me, is the beauty of the Art Thread. We're mostly idiots. I'm not even going to flatter us by calling us morons. We're idiots and we don't know anything (except for Kris) and we look at a picture and react to it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:12 AM (fuK7c)

BS-ing is Art History 101, and I have a Master's in it. (Art History, I mean)

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (nwqNw)

215 184. No argument from this treehugger! 'I think that I shall never see a poem lovely as a tree.'

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (AJwk0)

216 Is that Michael Jackson in his Thriller makeup on the left?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (aVYsC)

217 I will, chavez. It'll be a Massive mailer through the Prayer List and beyond.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 10:21 AM (Ckg4U)

218 Alternate picture title: The Democrat Leadership.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 17, 2018 10:21 AM (+y/Ru)

219 206 If the Russians took Gotland as a prelude to invading Estonia/Latvia there is damn little the Swedes could do about it

No, no. This is the 21st century. An American president said "you can't redraw national boundaries with military force" in the 21st century.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:18 AM (fuK7c)

You don't say...

Posted by: Ukrainia at January 17, 2018 10:22 AM (RD7QR)

220 217: Thanks, Slap. Time for other stuff. Later.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 17, 2018 10:22 AM (KP5rU)

221 215 184. No argument from this treehugger! 'I think that I shall never see a poem lovely as a tree.'
Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (AJwk0)

Well, there you are! LOL

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 17, 2018 10:23 AM (CPk08)

222 200 Might be a very good idea to split up California with a non lunatic section remaining part of the US as a state,the rest revert to a territory...

Power to the Inland Empire !

Posted by: Under Fire at January 17, 2018 10:23 AM (r9UYA)

223 Fuck Flake on the Senate floor sucking cock live now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2018 10:23 AM (SjImc)

224 New Cali - feh. I'd probably have to go over the line to lay out the kind of things it's supporters would need to start doing if they wanted to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 10:24 AM (V2Yro)

225 Re: New California...

I've been wondering if it's time to consider bringing back the city-state. I'm in New York so I would definitely be a benefit. But the logistics of representation would be prohibitive. More politicians, ugh.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 10:24 AM (nwqNw)

226 Fuck Flake is going off the tracks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2018 10:24 AM (SjImc)

227 213 201 145 Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.

The brochure, due to be sent to 4.7m households, will inform the public how they can take part in "total defence" during a war and secure water, food and heating.

The booklet with the working title If Crisis or War Comes will also give guidance on dealing with threats from cyber attacks, terrorism and climate change, the FT reported.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (e8kgV)

If the Russians took Gotland as a prelude to invading Estonia/Latvia there is damn little the Swedes could do about it. IIRC, the Swedish army could last for a few days before they would have to go over to guerrilla warfare.
Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at January 17, 2018 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

Wouldn't Russia have to go through Finland to get to Sweden? I think the Finns may have something to say about that.
Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (7HtZB)

No, Saint Petersburg is a proper Baltic seaport. It's a straight shot through Russian territorial waters to international waters and thence to Gotland. (I doubt the Finns would do anything even if that weren't the case.)

Posted by: Ukrainia at January 17, 2018 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

228 I hate that fuck flake

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2018 10:25 AM (SjImc)

229 No, no. This is the 21st century. An American president said "you can't redraw national boundaries with military force" in the 21st century.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:18 AM (fuK7c)

You don't say...

Of Course! Look how powerfully we reacted when Putin tied to seize the Crimean Peninsula!!!

oh wait...

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 10:25 AM (V2Yro)

230 224. Physical removal.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:25 AM (fA1SL)

231 >>228 I hate that fuck flake

I hate the GOP.

Posted by: Under Fire at January 17, 2018 10:25 AM (r9UYA)

232 Is that Michael Jackson in his Thriller makeup on the left?

I was thinking Ruby Dee as the voodoo lady in Cat People.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:25 AM (fuK7c)

233 Sockoff.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at January 17, 2018 10:26 AM (RD7QR)

234 Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (7HtZB)

Sweden, Finland, et al. have already imported their Fifth Column of guerrilla fighters/saboteurs.

They've lost before the battle even begins.

If I were the Russians I'd get in contact with the mosques and muslim leaders and promise them an islamic republic of Sweden etc.,

if they help us take down the gov't/culture/people which they already hate anyway.

BOOM! instant loss and/or horrible street fighting gamisch which makes Russian military takeover to insure "peace" a piece o'cake.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2018 10:26 AM (9q7Dl)

235 Anybody do any Electoral College math on a 'New California'. I imagine it would snitch about half. Too lazy to do the math. It would certainly put a damper on the Democrats chances to ever take the WH again.

It would be temporary - see me at 139, above.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 10:26 AM (7bkOX)

236 170
With the reading of their own version of a Declaration of Independence,
founders of the state of New California took the first steps to what
they hope will eventually lead to statehood.

To be clear, they don't want to leave the United States, just California.

-WZ

Yes!

Posted by: Under Fire at January 17, 2018 10:07 AM (r9UYA)

In order to do that they will have to get approval from congress. The Democrats will never allow that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 17, 2018 10:26 AM (mpXpK)

237 Thanks Grammie.
This is a real community.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 10:27 AM (nBr1j)

238 If you know of a charity site that is 'Conservative Friendly', please email me.

I don't know how to do this.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 10:27 AM (Ckg4U)

239 Hillary and Huma waiting for the 2040 election results.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 17, 2018 10:28 AM (wdmm9)

240 Do I even want to tune in to hear what Flake has to say? Probably not. I rely on the horde give me the cliff notes.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2018 10:28 AM (G0vdT)

241 A place for mom?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2018 10:28 AM (0tfLf)

242 227 213 201 145 Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.

The brochure, due to be sent to 4.7m households, will inform the public how they can take part in "total defence" during a war and secure water, food and heating.

The booklet with the working title If Crisis or War Comes will also give guidance on dealing with threats from cyber attacks, terrorism and climate change, the FT reported.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (e8kgV)

If the Russians took Gotland as a prelude to invading Estonia/Latvia there is damn little the Swedes could do about it. IIRC, the Swedish army could last for a few days before they would have to go over to guerrilla warfare.
Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at January 17, 2018 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

Wouldn't Russia have to go through Finland to get to Sweden? I think the Finns may have something to say about that.
Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (7HtZB)

No, Saint Petersburg is a proper Baltic seaport. It's a straight shot through Russian territorial waters to international waters and thence to Gotland. (I doubt the Finns would do anything even if that weren't the case.)
Posted by: Ukrainia at January 17, 2018 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

but, but, but...where does that leave us?!?!

Posted by: Peruvia at January 17, 2018 10:28 AM (9q7Dl)

243 "Your complication had a complication..."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 17, 2018 10:28 AM (eK1Sx)

244 230 224. Physical removal.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:25 AM (fA1SL)

Step one: start up the rotors
Step two: pack the leftist scum
Step three: drop them in the oceans

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 17, 2018 10:28 AM (VuJJJ)

245 235 Anybody do any Electoral College math on a 'New California'. I imagine it would snitch about half. Too lazy to do the math. It would certainly put a damper on the Democrats chances to ever take the WH again.

It would be temporary - see me at 139, above.
Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 10:26 AM (7bkOX)
--------

Don't forget there would be two new senators. Extreme danger.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2018 10:29 AM (G0vdT)

246 Well, this comment got my attention! [CBD]

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 10:29 AM (V2Yro)

247 I can summarize Flake's Speech: blah blah blah blaBLAHbla blah blah blah.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 10:30 AM (V2Yro)

248 Flake: No politician will tell us what is or what is not the truth.

Douche just undercut his own argument.

And President Trump was elected in a large measure because he ISN'T a politician.

Hate this guy, and, unfortunately, I voted for him twice.

Ugh.

Posted by: Love Gun at January 17, 2018 10:30 AM (gjB0k)

249 If you know of a charity site that is 'Conservative Friendly', please email me.

I don't know how to do this.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 10:27 AM (Ckg4U)

You can send me the money and I'll make sure it goes to a good place. Minus some modest administrative fees, of course.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 17, 2018 10:30 AM (wdmm9)

250 244. Forever free, prosperous and proud!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (fA1SL)

251 I will say, Corey Booker does have the Grrry! hands going there, doesn't he?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (2K6fY)

252 Sen. Flake is taking a stand in defense of the MSM. What a tool. Is he running on the Democratic ticket? .

Posted by: vivi at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (11H2y)

253 "You can send me the money and I'll make sure it goes to a good place. Minus some modest administrative fees, of course."
-Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 17, 2018 10:30 AM (wdmm9)

Way to get on the Shit List.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (Ckg4U)

254
145 Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.

They already know what to do - they've been practicing at it with their fuzzy-wuzzy muzzie pals for years. "Drop your drawers, bend over and present your hind parts for mounting."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (pNxlR)

255 Far as I can tell the only precedent for "New California", as in the secession of a part of a state and formation of a new state from that, is West Virginia - which was precipitated by some smallish-event in our history that got underway oh around 1861. Anyone?

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (7bkOX)

256 City-States in the modern world:

Liechtenstein
Vatican
Monaco
San Marino
Singapore

Of recent memory:
Goa
Hong Kong
Macao

Other?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (H5rtT)

257 227 213 201 145 Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.
The brochure, due to be sent to 4.7m households, will inform the public how they can take part in "total defence" during a war and secure water, food and heating.

"And please to ignore all the immigrants from Muslim countries moving into your neighborhood, having lots of children, and building mosques."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (eK1Sx)

258 Michael Jackson Was wearing makeup in Thriller?

Posted by: Eromero at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (zLDYs)

259 250 244. Forever free, prosperous and proud!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (fA1SL)

I am becoming more convinced that the only way to eradicate the leftist/cultural Marxist cancer from America involves rather drastic measures.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (VuJJJ)

260 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 10:29 AM (V2Yro)

Sad.

But, probably true.

Leftist are notoriously servile to those who prove they have the capacity and will to kill them. And will work to prove their bon fides as good lackeys.

See 911.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (9q7Dl)

261 No, Saint Petersburg is a proper Baltic seaport.

As is Kaliningrad, the erstwhile Koenigsberg.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (fuK7c)

262 @255 There was the State of Franklin project, but, hoo baby.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (H5rtT)

263 BS-ing is Art History 101, and I have a Master's in it. (Art History, I mean)
Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 10:20 AM (nwqNw)

My Uncle is or was an art perfesser. He has a BA, two MA's and a PHD. He also wrote a book called "The Wars Of The Littendahl Men." It's a story of Norwegian immigrants coming to America in the mid or late 1800's.

His name is Lee Budahl. You can find it on Amazon.

I also have a PHD, but mine is from the School Of Hard Knocks.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 17, 2018 10:33 AM (R5lpX)

264 Sen. Flake is taking a stand in defense of the MSM. What a tool. Is he running on the Democratic ticket?

Probably a "National Unity" ticket with Kamala or Corey or some other fascist commie. Flake would be the bottom of the ticket, of course, because of White Privilege.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 10:33 AM (7bkOX)

265 "The Hillary camp on election night."

Posted by: Agent Cooper at January 17, 2018 10:34 AM (oyCqX)

266 Flake just elevated the media to the position of unquestioned truth tellers and compared Trump to some of the most ruthless dictators of this time and previous times for questioning their veracity and independence.

Utterly disgraceful and dishonest.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2018 10:34 AM (/tuJf)

267 Trump Great genes.

Obama Mom jeans.

Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 17, 2018 10:34 AM (y3aQB)

268
Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.

They never had a problem with Russia when the commies ran the place.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2018 10:35 AM (IqV8l)

269 there must be some pics of Flake and his boy toy in the hands of his masters. He's so obviously compromised.

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 10:35 AM (AJwk0)

270
Far as I can tell the only precedent for "New California", as in the secession of a part of a state and formation of a new state from that, is West Virginia

Maine was split off Massachusetts in 1820.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2018 10:35 AM (cGH2y)

271 "255 Far as I can tell the only precedent for "New California", as in the secession of a part of a state and formation of a new state from that, is West Virginia - which was precipitated by some smallish-event in our history that got underway oh around 1861. Anyone?"

Hit the nail on the head. It can only happen when there's a military force in the seceding area which is strong enough to repel any other force that wants to move in and say different.

I guess I have a built in contempt for anyone who proposes any level of "revolution" without talking about the military force required for any such effort to succeed. If you're not willing to shed a lot of blood in the process, don't waste everyone's time by talking about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 10:35 AM (V2Yro)

272 Flake just elevated the media to the position of unquestioned truth tellers and compared Trump to some of the most ruthless dictators of this time and previous times for questioning their veracity and independence.

Which helps explain why PDJT moved-up the Fake News Awards ("Fakies") to today - which will utterly annihilate SnowFlake's argument, such as it is, and make him look even more the fool.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 10:36 AM (7bkOX)

273 Sounds like today is going to be Jeff Flake Day.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 10:36 AM (+lOpA)

274 43 I have lots of support by the way. Thanks for your prayers.
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 09:59 AM (nBr1j)

Then what are you doing here. Get away from the computer and be with your loved ones. They will be needing you now more than ever.

Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2018 10:36 AM (Fs5vw)

275 Wife notes, looks like Flake's nose has been broken once before.
I note, Watch This Space.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 10:37 AM (H5rtT)

276 Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to deal with the threat from Russia.

Why is Sweden so afraid about being taken over by Russia but not Islam? It's not even a close call, for anyone who's sane.

Maybe the Swedes are worried that a Russian invasion would interfere with their plans to allow Muslims to conquer Sweden, but I don't think they really object to the notion of being conquered as such.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 17, 2018 10:37 AM (/qEW2)

277 http://bit.ly/2DcRWUY

Jerusalem Post Columnist Caroline Glick Joins Breitbart News

Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 17, 2018 10:37 AM (y3aQB)

278 259 250 244. Forever free, prosperous and proud!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (fA1SL)

I am becoming more convinced that the only way to eradicate the leftist/cultural Marxist cancer from America involves rather drastic measures.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (VuJJJ)

Yep.

Dance-off, bro!

Posted by: Peter Quill, Star-Lord at January 17, 2018 10:37 AM (7HtZB)

279 264. Flake would be on the bottom because he's a bottom.

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2018 10:37 AM (AJwk0)

280 256 City-States in the modern world:

Liechtenstein
Vatican
Monaco
San Marino
Singapore

Of recent memory:
Goa
Hong Kong
Macao

Other?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 10:32 AM (H5rtT)

Berkeley
Cambridge (Mass)

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 17, 2018 10:38 AM (CPk08)

281 Not a shithole update:

Mexican journalist stabbed 21 times in front of his family...

At least 33 human skulls found in shallow graves...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 17, 2018 10:38 AM (+y/Ru)

282 Maine was split off Massachusetts in 1820.

Yep, forgot about that. MA was pretty much happy to be rid of it, though. Still smarting from the Penobscot Expedition of 1779.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 10:38 AM (7bkOX)

283 "Maine was split off Massachusetts in 1820." yes, but it was mostly voluntary, and it was only part of Massachusetts because in 1787 the population was half a dozen British colonists and some frozen Frenchmen who'd gotten lost.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 10:39 AM (V2Yro)

284 A place for mom?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2018 10:28 AM (0tfLf)

'Place for Mom' is a referral 'service'. They get your elders information then send emails to a bunch of nursing homes, or assisted living locations. The different locations compete for placing the individual, the winner pays a referral fee to 'Place for Mom'.

Whether individuals can get a 'better deal' by avoiding 'Place for Mom' and the kickback - I mean 'referral fee' - is debatable. It's not a small chunk of change.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 17, 2018 10:39 AM (2FqvZ)

285 Slap- email me at murphywong at people pc dot com and I can tell you what we did before.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 17, 2018 10:39 AM (QD2oK)

286 Jerusalem Post Columnist Caroline Glick Joins Breitbart News
Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 17, 2018 10:37 AM (y3aQB)

Proof, if ever you needed it, that Zionism is anti-Semitism!

Posted by: Linda Sarsour at January 17, 2018 10:39 AM (CPk08)

287 Seriously Arizona...one shit weasel senator i can understand. We all make mistakes. But McCancer and Flake? Come on man.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 17, 2018 10:39 AM (uToW0)

288 Cuz it's a THRILLAAA!!! THRILLAAA yeah!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at January 17, 2018 10:40 AM (xttKs)

289 Do I even want to tune in to hear what Flake has to say? Probably not. I rely on the horde give me the cliff notes.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2018 10:28 AM (G0vdT)

========

*fistbump* It's the only way to stay informed *and* preserve your sanity.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 17, 2018 10:40 AM (/qEW2)

290 Well, it's not the chess thread but I guess it's always time for some dress pron.

https://yhoo.it/2reRu73

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 17, 2018 10:40 AM (+y/Ru)

291 Flake, like so many others in the GOP, is a Soy Boy

Posted by: Under Fire at January 17, 2018 10:41 AM (r9UYA)

292 "280 256 City-States in the modern world:"

The Free State of Jones (Laurel, Mississippi)

Seriously, if you go through there, them people are pretty strange even to this day. Don't bother them what you think, they just want you to go away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2018 10:41 AM (V2Yro)

293 cnn collectively orgasmed at the Stalin speech.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 17, 2018 10:41 AM (uToW0)

294 I heard a good theory about the Salem witch stuff which I wish I could remember better. The gist of it was that lots of Puritans went up to Maine (we say down Maine, but that's a wind thing) and some of the got really murdered by Indians.

Orphan girls and servants who had no one to serve anymore would come back to MA and tell the little girls in their care stories about what had happened in Maine, and those transmogriphied into the witch stories.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (fuK7c)

295 Vermont was once known as New Connecticut.

ISTR hearing once in a civics-like course in high school or before, the protocol for forming a new state. Required the permission of the legislatures of all the surrounding states. Did not require military force or rebellion.

Interesting point, and hard to imagine outside the Missouri Compromise and following events: could the federal government force this judgment onto those states, or would it be limited to exerting pressure?

There was a compromise once, and I hate to bring it up because it involves Toledo.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (H5rtT)

296 flake: Trump is worse than Stalin

Mittens: hold my beer....

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (uToW0)

297 290 Well, it's not the chess thread but I guess it's always time for some dress pron.

https://yhoo.it/2reRu73
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 17, 2018 10:40 AM (+y/Ru)

[Slow, ursine rage-twitch] WHY DO THEY KEEP TRYING TO PUT MEN IN DRESSES!

Seriously, the only acceptable dress-like option for men is a kilt. Full stop.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (RD7QR)

298 @slapweasel

https://www.youcaring.com/c/crowdfunding

No experience with it. But looks to be less Commie than gofundme

Posted by: blaster at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (Z5y53)

299 256
City-States in the modern world:

Liechtenstein
Vatican
Monaco
San Marino
Singapore

Of recent memory:
Goa
Hong Kong
Macao

Other?

****

Brooklyn, NY

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 17, 2018 10:43 AM (Fb9aZ)

300 >>Vermont was once known as New Connecticut.

It's now known by some as New New York.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2018 10:43 AM (/tuJf)

301 Essential the Republicans have no representatives in the US Senate.
One is near death and the other is far left winger

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2018 10:43 AM (SjImc)

302 Flake, GOPeDiot

Posted by: lymond at January 17, 2018 10:43 AM (Jvjtu)

303 Wash St. QB killed himself.

Oy.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 10:44 AM (+lOpA)

304 "*fistbump* It's the only way to stay informed *and* preserve your sanity."

*fistbump*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at January 17, 2018 10:44 AM (oVWx5)

305
The Hamas Louse is commenting here now?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2018 10:45 AM (pNxlR)

306
Seriously Arizona...one shit weasel senator i can understand. We all make mistakes. But McCancer and Flake? Come on man.
=====

I think all of us have to look at the % of Fed land in a state to evaluate what or whom the senator is representing. I remember watching a Rep speaking on the floor about water rights and that his constituents had a lot of sympathy for the Bundys. If a State is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Feds and the people residing there are dependents of the Feds . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 17, 2018 10:45 AM (MIKMs)

307 268

Sweden is preparing to issue a public information manual on what
to do in the event of war, as debate in the country grows over how to
deal with the threat from Russia.

They never had a problem with Russia when the commies ran the place.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2018 10:35 AM (IqV8l)

They have a manual already. It's called the Koran.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at January 17, 2018 10:45 AM (oyCqX)

308 296
flake: Trump is worse than Stalin

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (uToW0)

---------------------------------

If so flake would be dead by now.

Posted by: Javems at January 17, 2018 10:46 AM (Sod+H)

309 So Flake gives a floor speech defending the press and attacking Trump the same day the McCain has an Op-Ed in the WaPo.....defending the press and attacking Trump.

Trump got the best of them both so they're going to throw tantrums until they're shown the Senate exit door.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2018 10:46 AM (G0vdT)

310 290 Well, it's not the chess thread but I guess it's always time for some dress pron.
https://yhoo.it/2reRu73

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 17, 2018 10:40 AM (+y/Ru)

One of these days, there will be a knock at your front door. You will open it, and it will be me, and I will punch you in the face.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 17, 2018 10:46 AM (eK1Sx)

311 Goya should have been a tattoo artist.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 17, 2018 10:46 AM (8NLb9)

312 City-States in the modern world:

Danzig

The Free state of Fiume

Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2018 10:47 AM (7HtZB)

313 Saw the picture; made a bet on how quickly someone said Pelosi & Feinstein. Number 36, Fritz - collect your winnings!

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at January 17, 2018 10:47 AM (dQJCS)

314 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 17, 2018 10:47 AM (cv0rf)

315 flake: Trump is worse than Stalin

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (uToW0)

---------------------------------

If so flake would be dead by now.
Posted by: Javems

So would the media.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 10:48 AM (fXB+v)

316 I also have a PHD, but mine is from the School Of Hard Knocks.
Posted by: Traveling Man at January 17, 2018 10:33 AM (R5lpX)

And it has probably paid off for you more than mine has. LOL. Although I do get to dazzle all ya'll with my pitture-readin' skillz. Bonus.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2018 10:48 AM (nwqNw)

317 311
Goya should have been a tattoo artist.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 17, 2018 10:46 AM (8NLb9)

If he were alive today, he'd be doing custom van art.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at January 17, 2018 10:48 AM (oyCqX)

318 305 The Hamas Louse is commenting here now?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2018 10:45 AM (pNxlR)

You are afraid of me. You are afraid of a proud, yes proud Palestinian woman, a Muslim, A Muslim American. But I will not be silenced! Zionism IS anti-Semitism! It has NO connection to Judaism!

Posted by: Linda Sarsour at January 17, 2018 10:48 AM (CPk08)

319 Attacking by sea is always the worst option if there is a land route possible.

Especially against someone with modern diesel-electric submarines.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 17, 2018 10:48 AM (QQ+il)

320 I am with family. I'm finding the horde is family as well.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 10:48 AM (nBr1j)

321 Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Global Rethinker at January 17, 2018 10:46 AM (eK1Sx)

Uh oh....better not read the punk chimp today.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 17, 2018 10:49 AM (wYseH)

322 Don't tell me. This is from the period when Goya began going nuts, right?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2018 10:49 AM (QCX64)

323 Some days I wouldn't mind if Trump went a little Stalin on his enemies. Hey i said a little, dont freak out.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 17, 2018 10:49 AM (riFFN)

324 296 flake: Trump is worse than Stalin

Mittens: hold my beer....
Posted by: #neverskankles at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (uToW0)

Mitt is worse than Flakey who is worse than McStain who is worse than Graham who is than Ryan who is worse than Mitch who is worse than .......................................

Posted by: Donny horsehung Trump at January 17, 2018 10:49 AM (4u7kU)

325 Danzig was a free state but it had German post offices and its yutes were subject to German draft.

Otoh, I "dated" a Polish girl who swore that Gdansk had never been German.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:49 AM (fuK7c)

326 I thought it was verboten to speak ill of Stalin to a leftist.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2018 10:49 AM (+lOpA)

327
There was a compromise once, and I hate to bring it up because it involves Toledo.
Posted by: Stringer Davis

The birth of Max Klinger.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2018 10:50 AM (IqV8l)

328 I'm finding the horde is family as well.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 10:48 AM (nBr1j)

I'll post the Morning Rant early so we can move on from the (coincidently) poorly chosen art.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 17, 2018 10:50 AM (wYseH)

329 319. First comms go, then power. Polite men in unmarked uniforms appear at logistical choke points.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:50 AM (fA1SL)

330 I am becoming more convinced that the only way to eradicate the leftist/cultural Marxist cancer from America involves rather drastic measures.
Posted by: Insomniac

*cough - Buffs nails on lapel - cough*

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 10:51 AM (fXB+v)

331 How unhinged these nevertrumpers, the press, and the democrats are (but I repeat myself).

So Flake is positioning for a network job? Yawn

Posted by: dagny at January 17, 2018 10:51 AM (eO5CB)

332 Well I will have a busy day tomorrow getting ready to maybe cancel 30 or so set of Orders and contacting all those people so they don't head off.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2018 10:52 AM (SjImc)

333 Sweden is not in NATO. That is what you get for snubbing your nose at the USA. I do not care what happens to you.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 17, 2018 10:52 AM (8NLb9)

334 Goya should have been a tattoo artist.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 17, 2018 10:46 AM (8NLb9)

If he were alive today, he'd be doing custom van art.
Posted by: Agent Cooper

In the 70's.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 10:52 AM (fXB+v)

335 >>329 319. First comms go, then power. Polite men in unmarked uniforms appear at logistical choke points. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:50 AM (fA1SL)

Instructions are prefaced with the disarming "for your safety, please..." IOW, when government "aid workers" starts behaving very politely, it's time to grab the go-bag and quietly make for the back door...

Posted by: Zod at January 17, 2018 10:53 AM (Bdeb0)

336 I do not care what happens to you.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 17, 2018 10:52 AM (8NLb9)

They made good money selling to the Germans in WWII.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 17, 2018 10:53 AM (wYseH)

337 Northernlurker, been thinking of you all morning. Prayers and hugs, I am glad you have family with you right now.

Posted by: IC at January 17, 2018 10:53 AM (a0IVu)

338 >>Sweden is not in NATO. That is what you get for snubbing your nose at the USA. I do not care what happens to you.

Let's not be to hasty. We should offer the women sanctuary. I personally will take a dozen or so.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2018 10:53 AM (/tuJf)

339 334. That would look pretty awesome on the door of my Corolla.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:53 AM (fA1SL)

340 My pastor and his wife have already been here. The kids and grandkids are here. I just spoke to Slapweasel.
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 17, 2018 10:10 AM (nBr1j)

Good to hear. Praying for strength for your family.

Posted by: jsg at January 17, 2018 10:53 AM (XTXXB)

341 Saw the picture; made a bet on how quickly someone said Pelosi & Feinstein. Number 36, Fritz - collect your winnings!
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris

I still think JJ won the thread in #8.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 10:54 AM (fXB+v)

342 So Flake is positioning for a network job?

Auditioning to be the next Joe Intern-Murder

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 10:54 AM (7bkOX)

343 flake: Trump is worse than Stalin

Mittens: hold my beer....

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (uToW0)

========

These scum are utterly unrepentant about selling us out. At least the Democrats always let us know unequivocally where they stood. Traitors have always been regarded as the lowest of the low, beneath even your enemies.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 17, 2018 10:54 AM (/qEW2)

344 Sweden is not in NATO. That is what you get for snubbing your nose at the USA. I do not care what happens to you.
=====

Don't think Switzerland is either. They also are not members of the EU. Switzerland just changed their citizenship requirements to no welfare and speak one of the languages.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 17, 2018 10:55 AM (MIKMs)

345 Northernlurker- Slap has mentioned your needing some help.
This may not be a good time but I can get you set up so that you can receive funds directly without any lack of privacy. If this will work for you, read my 285.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 17, 2018 10:55 AM (QD2oK)

346 That would look pretty awesome on the door of my Corolla.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine

Tailgate of a Chebbe pick up.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 10:55 AM (fXB+v)

347 14 Senora Havisham.

yes.

Posted by: barbarausa at January 17, 2018 10:55 AM (ru28e)

348 Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 17, 2018 10:46 AM (eK1Sx)

And anyway, I'm sure if you indeed wanted to wear a dress you could find ones in in your file which would be much nicer to look at. ;^) The guy on the right looks like he's in some space get-up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2018 10:56 AM (8+Ozj)

349 Don't think Switzerland is either. They also are not members of the EU. Switzerland just changed their citizenship requirements to no welfare and speak one of the languages.
Posted by: mustbequantum

Cash? Nazi Gold? Diamonds?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 10:56 AM (fXB+v)

350
Nood Punk Chimp

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2018 10:56 AM (pNxlR)

351 Sweden is not in NATO. That is what you get for snubbing your nose at the USA. I do not care what happens to you.

They've also been ordering cheaply from the Children's' Menu for their own defense knowing that NATO would bail them out.

They weren't counting on Trump. Neither was the rest of NATO.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2018 10:56 AM (7bkOX)

352 Nood - damned dirty ape!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 17, 2018 10:57 AM (fA1SL)

353 Substitute Chimp is up.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at January 17, 2018 10:57 AM (RD7QR)

354 Just watched Flake on FBN, remembering when when he ran as a conservative.....and won as a conservative.

A real POS he turned out to be.

Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2018 10:57 AM (Fs5vw)

355 I suspect the Swedish war manual may simply be the work of some people in Sweden who are not insane and are preparing the public for the coming war on Islam.

Posted by: An Observation at January 17, 2018 10:57 AM (5MLH0)

356 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 10:57 AM (fXB+v)

357 I eagerly await the Stud Monkey's philosophical musing on the events of the day.

Posted by: Walter Luckless at January 17, 2018 10:57 AM (GroCc)

358 Senorita! Dammit. She got stood up.

Posted by: JAS at January 17, 2018 10:57 AM (7JbXq)

359 253 "You can send me the money and I'll make sure it goes to a good place. Minus some modest administrative fees, of course."
-Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 17, 2018 10:30 AM (wdmm9)

Way to get on the Shit List.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 10:31 AM (Ckg4U)

Deeply sorry. I came in late to the party and shot my mouth off before I read up thread proper. Devastated to hear about Nothernlurker. Influenza A is terrible this year. If you are having trouble breathing, don't try to tough this one out. Fever, headache, bodyaches, cough, nausea is the pattern I am seeing in the flu this year, all Flu A positive. About 10% mostly 65 develop serious respiratory problems and need to be admitted.
What a great family we have here. I have just shed a few tears for someone I only know by a nic.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 17, 2018 10:58 AM (wdmm9)

360 Prayers and deepest condolences, Northernlurker.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 17, 2018 10:58 AM (hMwEB)

361 Gdansk had never been German.

Looked it up. She seems to be right that Gdansk was founded by Poles or - more likely - Balts, like Riga. Some of those other Baltic cities were founded by Viking or German traders - like Memel.

East German genetics is a fairly interesting topic; they do seem to be converted Old Prussians, that is Balts.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 10:59 AM (6FqZa)

362 I thought that one was called Michael and Lisa Marie

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 17, 2018 11:00 AM (PUmDY)

363 About 10% mostly 65 develop serious respiratory problems and need to be admitted.

That got pixy-fied. 10% under 1 and over 65 develop serious respiratory problems. Those I send home get steroids and albuterol.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 17, 2018 11:00 AM (wdmm9)

364 I was cruising in the Alps about 15 years ago when I stopped in at a small Inn in Austria. When talking to the young waitress, the subject of the unfriendly attitude of the Austrians toward the Germans. Her response was " you hurd of dis Hitler person ??" Spit my beer

Posted by: Donny horsehung Trump at January 17, 2018 11:00 AM (4u7kU)

365 Good Lord, Chris Ciilizza is flamboyant

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 17, 2018 11:05 AM (PUmDY)

366 Looked it up. She seems to be right that Gdansk was founded by Poles or - more likely - Balts, like Riga.

Well, all of that part of the world has moved around a lot based on who lost the last war. What is Belarus was mostly Poland. What was East Prussia isn't. Poland has stopped existing a couple of times and its boundaries have not been sacrosanct.

This Polish girl was saying that Gdansk had not been German, as in it didn't have a German post office, it didn't have German military draft, it didn't have German-speaking Gunther Grass grow up there and write the Danzig trilogy which led to a Nobel prize.

It's a confused part of the world but it has been German from time to time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 11:06 AM (fuK7c)

367 Italian Alps?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 17, 2018 11:07 AM (PUmDY)

368
Why is Sweden issuing warnings about a Russian invasion when it's the US that's the only country that starts wars and invades others? That's what my transnational progressive friends say, anyway.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2018 11:07 AM (GUCx8)

369 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 10:42 AM (fuK7c)

First of all, what a great hash.

Secondly, while there might be something to the Maine theory for all I know, remember that there were witch trials going on in Europe and the UK at around the same time. Witches were not sometime people in the MA Bay colony dreamt up. Many, many Christians in both the old and new believed in their existence.

The question should be: we have Pelosi and Hillary and Joy Behar, so why do we doubt the existence of witches?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2018 11:13 AM (ZM2xo)

370 James I was obsessed with "witches" which is why you'll find them suddenly appearing in Shakespeare. It was a fad and certainly not limited to the Puritans (the old ones, not the new lefty version).

The same evils reappear and reappear through history, evil is boring. Good is inventive.

Posted by: dagny at January 17, 2018 11:20 AM (eO5CB)

371 Hillary's medical results in...FROM HELL......

Posted by: saf at January 17, 2018 02:27 PM (cS/ge)

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