The Morning Rant: J.V. Edition

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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."
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That's so quaint! I think those folks really believed, and even fought a war to defend its principles. They shouldn't have bothered. Just throw poo, it's cheaper and more fun, and doesn't require any principles at all.

CBS Diversity Comedy Showcase Has Its 2018 Cast

I'm actually pretty fvcking offended by the name of this show. Ignoring the fact that it is off-putting, and immediately alienates a significant portion of its possible audience, what am I to take away from its title? That my status as a White man is in some way invalid, that I am to be marginalized in deference to others whose skin color and hyphenated surnames are more in tune with current thought?

These people are doubling down on division. They WANT the country to be unalterably divided, because they think that identity politics and a third world aesthetic is ascendent in America. Maybe it is, but before we get there these folks will have to some heavy lifting, and I don't think they are up to the task. As usual, their sweetness-and-light message will be co-opted by those with a more sanguine and realistic outlook on how to change societies. And those people are called communists, or in today's vernacular, community organizers and progressives.

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Watching Turkey's Descent Into Islamist Dictatorship

I'm just a dumb assistant underblogger in the vast corporate behemoth that is AoSHQ Inc, so would somebody explain to me why Turkey is still in NATO? Wasn't one of the ideas behind NATO is that it would be a defense of Western concepts of freedom and pluralism?

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Wichita cop responding to 911 suicide call accidentally shoots 9-year-old girl in the forehead
Because he was shooting at the family dog....

You cannot make this shit up.

All of you staunch defenders of police actions such as this, remind me why the life of a police officer is more important than the lives of those he is supposed to protect and serve? And why they seem to shoot at dogs at an alarming rate? And why he couldn't have used his baton or mace or taser or just...you know...dealt with the dog the way postmen and normal people do all the time.

Oh, never mind. I didn't see combat in Afghanistan, so I am not qualified to comment on this event.

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Posted by: CBD at 11:30 AM




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1 Pursuit of happiness was originally pursuit of property

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2018 11:26 AM (BtQd4)

2 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2018 11:26 AM (0R8lo)

3 Early on

Posted by: Frech Jeton at January 05, 2018 11:26 AM (Fjvqd)

4 Ohhh, shiny....

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:26 AM (7LY+6)

5 That's no gorilla!


Posted by: irright at January 05, 2018 11:28 AM (pMGkg)

6 Why is there a NATO at all?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2018 11:28 AM (IqV8l)

7 Yasmine Mohammed: Word.

Posted by: WisRich at January 05, 2018 11:28 AM (G0vdT)

8 You're going to support a theocracy because Trump doesn't?

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That's pretty much how the Left and Never-Trumpers operate, yeah.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 05, 2018 11:28 AM (KUaJL)

9 Oh, and have had a good laugh at the "Diversity Comics", as the previous head dude resigned due to "inappropriate comments"...

So, where do I find said comments?

I know, I know... but first, you must

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:28 AM (7LY+6)

10
This is about freedom vs fascism

You're going to support a theocracy because Trump doesn't?



The left: YES!!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2018 11:29 AM (493sH)

11 Wow!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at January 05, 2018 11:29 AM (AM1GF)

12
White supremacist train terrorist?

https://tinyurl.com/y7pv9tw2

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2018 11:29 AM (IqV8l)

13 The officer missed the dog and the bullet fragmanted and ricoheted after hitting a hard floor. A bullet fragmented struck a 9-year-old girl above her right eye.



She was treated and released. Thank God.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2018 11:29 AM (0R8lo)

14 Our own Gorilla channel.
Heh.

Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:29 AM (Faeqc)

15 The article doesn't say whether the officer killed the dog; but I guess that's kind of an afterthought.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 05, 2018 11:30 AM (O7MnT)

16 CBS Diversity Comedy Showcase Has Its 2018 Cast
So what is their diversity or perversity? I want a scorecard of fetishes, perversion, lifestyles, sins, and 31 flavors of genders so I can decide if they are funny.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2018 11:30 AM (BtQd4)

17 Whatever. The little nine-year old twit probably ran her mouth ... so she got what she had coming.

Keep it polite, avoid confrontation, and shit like this never happens.*

* shit I learned here

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:30 AM (upzye)

18 These people are doubling down on division. They WANT the country to be unalterably divided, because they think that identity politics and a third world aesthetic is ascendent in America.




Well then they don't have to get any of whitey's money either. Let them all rot

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2018 11:31 AM (493sH)

19 Why is there a NATO at all?"

To keep the Russians out, Americans in, and the Germans down"

*as close as I can recall the first NATO dude's statement*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:31 AM (7LY+6)

20 Damn dirty ape.

Posted by: eleven at January 05, 2018 11:31 AM (+lOpA)

21 Strawman One.


Ready for liftoff.

Posted by: happy sun, full of fusion at January 05, 2018 11:31 AM (5Isv3)

22 Rather misleading headline on the cop shooting article.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 11:31 AM (bZ7mE)

23 Wichita cop responding to 911 suicide call accidentally shoots 9-year-old girl in the forehead
Because he was shooting at the family dog....
You cannot make this shit up.


The dog could've been armed. And the 9-year-old girl couldve had a bomb vest under her My Little Pony T-shirt. You haven't been in the shit, man, you don't know!

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 11:32 AM (NWiLs)

24 Wouldn't diversity comedy be stuff like the more horrible Andrew Dice Clay style or that Kramer guy from Seinfeld telling nothing but jokes at the expense of black people (which I doubt he ever did to begin with)?

Because diversity = different. If you're doing the same stuff by the same people that are aired every morning, day, and night, it's not diversity, it's safety.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 05, 2018 11:32 AM (ks6bw)

25 6 Why is there a NATO at all?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2018 11:28 AM (IqV8l)

Why tooo.. to protect against the Warsaw Pact!... er... USSR!...

Uh to protect the EU from Russia, even though they have 4 times the population and 10 times the GDP Russia has...

Because... Turkey is such a friend that...

Oh.. crap... I got nothing...

Posted by: Moses at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (NgKpN)

26 1. A nation divided cannot stand.
2. A nation that cannot stand, kneels.
3. This is acceptable.

Posted by: Zod at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (Bdeb0)

27 Keep it polite, avoid confrontation, and shit like this never happens.*

* shit I learned here
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:30 AM (upzye)

Or train your dog better.

Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (Faeqc)

28 Our own Gorilla channel.
Heh.


Yeah, this is more like it.

Punky Monkey.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (tRaq7)

29 Rather misleading headline on the cop shooting article.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 11:31 AM (bZ7mE)

Why?

You and I are responsible for where our bullets go. Shouldn't the policeman be too?

A ricochet is an expected event.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (wYseH)

30 It's 1130. You think ace is making any headway on the bright and early at 0900 resolution?

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (Z5y53)

31 I like this Yasmine Mohammed.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

32 "shooting at the family dog"

Gah!
- - -
This is funny - love the "Mossad" twitter feed, particular when they pwn Linda Sarsour:

https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL/status/948981791758614528

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 11:34 AM (W+vEI)

33 20 Damn dirty ape.
Posted by: eleven at January 05, 2018 11:31 AM (+lOpA)

Word....

Posted by: taylor at January 05, 2018 11:34 AM (NgKpN)

34 Diversity Comedy Showcase ----> Island of Misfit Toys?


Really, would you want to part of something that screams "Affirmative-action hire!"?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 11:35 AM (W+vEI)

35 Word....
Posted by: Tay...lor"

FIFY...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:35 AM (7LY+6)

36 http://bayareane.ws/2CXXALl

US Attorney for northern California announces sudden leave from office


HMMMMM

Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 05, 2018 11:35 AM (y3aQB)

37 Thank goodness for the new thread. I was having flashbacks down below.

Posted by: RI Red - Expert on everything expert at January 05, 2018 11:35 AM (PtEhS)

38 Strawman One.


Ready for liftoff.
Posted by: happy sun, full of fusion at January 05, 2018 11:31 AM (5Isv3)


I've often found that "strawman" is short for "I really have no retort to your example ... so I declare it Out Of Bounds."

"That's Not Professional" is another such handy little control device.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:35 AM (upzye)

39 Did that lady just skewer a ghost?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2018 11:36 AM (tRaq7)

40 There are certainly too many bad shootings involving the police, but sometimes this place is like a BLM site.

Posted by: josephistan at January 05, 2018 11:36 AM (7HtZB)

41 @36 probably went to the store to score some weed.

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2018 11:36 AM (Z5y53)

42 Eh, NATO succeeded in its initial mission of keeping the USSR at bay. Then it went in search of a mission, which is now to offload the cost of protecting Europe onto the Anglosphere so the Continentals can enjoy their welfare state unfettered by the problem of self-defense. It's international military welfare.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (RD7QR)

43 Yeah, I have a CHP. I have had it stressed to me over and over that the law expects me to be able to account for every bullet that leaves that handgun. If I shoot and miss, I'm responsible.

CBD is right - if I make a mistake or have an accident or whatever with my handgun, I'm looking at jail or worse. A police officer does it under cover of authority and suddenly it's Ooops, too bad, no harm meant. Sorry!

That doesn't fly at all. He shot a nine year old girl, whether intentionally or accidentally is irrelevant.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (PFy0L)

44 Oh.. crap... I got nothing..."

NATO was another English load o' carp that the striped pants brigade at Foggy Bottom swallowed in their love for all things britistanian...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (7LY+6)

45 >>Or train your dog better. Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (Faeqc)

...or train both dog and little kid to stay in their respective dog-cages like they're supposed to. Sheesh.

Posted by: Zod at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (Bdeb0)

46 You and I are responsible for where our bullets go. Shouldn't the policeman be too?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (wYseH)


My mastery of that responsibility has truly went to shit since getting Progressive Lenses.

I should have nothing. Nothing Progressive ever works worth a damn.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (upzye)

47 That puzzle of the week would make good spacerock lyrics.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (ul9CR)

48 sometimes this place is like a BLM site.

Posted by: josephistan at January 05, 2018 11:36 AM (7HtZB)

With the huge difference that our criticism of police behavior is not race-based.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (wYseH)

49 It's 1130. You think ace is making any headway on the bright and early at 0900 resolution?

He never did say which time zone.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (tRaq7)

50 Holy crap. From the "diversity" link:

"The naming of this year's cast comes in the wake of the showcase's director, writer-producer Rick Najera resigning after an investigation into inappropriate comments he made. "After looking into these reports and a discussion with Mr. Najera, he has resigned from his role with the Diversity Comedy Showcase,"

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You look at life differently than us, so we're going to force you to resign from your role with the Diversity Showcase.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (ks6bw)

51 CBS Diversity Comedy Showcase Has Its 2018 Cast




Let me guess how it will go, White people suck and are all racists, homophobes, Islamaphobes etc. Men are all sexists, racists, homophobes, Islamaphobes etc. Trump sucks and the endless clapping from the trained seals in the audience

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2018 11:38 AM (493sH)

52 Skewer us all you want, we're already dead. Duh.

Posted by: Ghosts at January 05, 2018 11:38 AM (ul9CR)

53 She's wrong, they're not supporting and Islamic theocracy because Trump doesn't. They're supporting it because Obama did. I don't hold out hope for it happening but if Iran's government actually falls that will even further damage their president boyfriend's legacy.

Posted by: buzzion at January 05, 2018 11:39 AM (cAnNx)

54 US Attorney for northern California announces sudden leave from office "

To spend more time with his family perhaps?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:39 AM (7LY+6)

55 Diversity Showcase.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 05, 2018 11:37 AM (ks6bw)

Pervs obviously not included.

Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:39 AM (Faeqc)

56 Death is the mother of beauty.

Posted by: Wallace Stevens at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (0jtPF)

57 Geez, is the Wichita PD a secret serial killer's club or something?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (ul9CR)

58 I had to click that link to Deadline, just to see if "Diversity Comedy Showcase" was actually the name of that CBS program. Wow.

Also, anyone else find it hilarious that the director got forced out for inappropriate comments? The Left--impossible to parody, Exhibit PX125-a.

Posted by: T at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (MmeCn)

59 "They WANT the country to be unalterably divided, because they think that identity politics and a third world aesthetic is ascendent in America. "

there are the "commies" like Obama that see a black jihadist America on the rise (or whatever divisive groups, blm, antifa, occupy)

BUT go up one level and we see the globalists playing one nation against another, which is accomplished internally by playing various natural groups against other less natural groups.

So the jihadists of 3rd world Africa are imported to fracture the heritage of the Germans, or of the French ... and from the top they performed their coup over the sovereignty of those countries via the EU.

Same strategy ... bunch of Oligarchs that meet at places where only the Bilderberg uranium card gets one invited. These shadowy groups like CFR, illiminati ... whatever ... they are real. How they function, idk. Bush and a Saudi king kissing ... no big deal I guess, but there are some BigOil deals there.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (otAqJ)

60 investigation into inappropriate comments he made."

As I said, I'd like to read said comments. Were they along the lines of ol' Harv's?

Heh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (7LY+6)

61 >>US Attorney for northern California announces sudden leave from office


Because he's not on board with Sessions' take on enforcing federal weed laws?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (W+vEI)

62 Kids in a bed room, light off some 9mm.

Ears should be fine.





Posted by: nip at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (ECLaL)

63 The sprays don't have much effect on many dogs. Honestly if YOU called 911 then you had time to put your dog up out of harms way, and your daughter as well.

Who would leave the kid and dog in the middle of a possible suicide let alone one that you called 911 and initiated a "ZOMG this might become a murder suicide unless we ACT FAST" response rather than putting them in a back room or closet and telling the kid to wedge the door until you give a safe code word?

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 05, 2018 11:41 AM (84F5k)

64 And that's not the first incident I've heard of where police shot a kid while trying to shoot a dog. If you're going to start shooting at pets when there are people around it had better already be a life and death situation (like a pit bull attack).

Recently deputy sheriffs in my county accidentally killed a cute little boy while shooting a fleeing felon who had run into the kid's trailer park. I'm withholding judgment until all the facts are out, but it's a tragedy either way.

Posted by: stace at January 05, 2018 11:41 AM (6HFDU)

65 To Hell with CBS.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 05, 2018 11:41 AM (Se2s/)

66 And another thing, since I'm on a roll.

If I was shooting at something and instead hit a nine year old kid, not only would I lose pretty much everything, but liberals would use that as more "proof" that only trained professionals should be armed and the rest of us simpletons need to be herded like cattle.

Well, look what happened with one of those "trained professionals."

Again, the double standard is overwhelming.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at January 05, 2018 11:41 AM (PFy0L)

67

Fox Business is showing all of the companies who will be giving bonuses or making new investments due to the tax cuts. Odd, no mentioned of the millions killed by it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2018 11:41 AM (493sH)

68 This was discussed in the last thread regarding police shootings. I guess I don't see it as a black/white issue. No pun intended. Cops are human and sometimes there's bad cops that do stupid shit. They have an extremely tough job and most aren't looking for reasons to shoot or beat someone for the hell of it. They are not above reproach or being questioned nor should they be automatically crucified because they shot someone of a different race. Each case should be looked at based on the circumstances and if they are guilty of breaking the public's trust then they should be held to a higher standard and prosecuted, fired etc. I don't know of anyone that excuses their actions no matter what. It's a strawman I think. Maybe there's a few that excuse their actions regardless because of the badge and they would be just as bad as those who think that every shooting is a cop who is dirty.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 11:42 AM (tPrp3)

69 Just to cheer you all up, I updated my Supreme court death tables for 2018 and they tell me that there is a 27% chance that one of black robes masters/mistresses will ascend to a higher plane this year.

carrying it out a bit

by 1/1/2019 27% of >=1 death
by 1/1/2020 48% of >=1 death
by 1/1/2021 65% of >=1 death

Leading contenders are...

A Kennedy, born 1936 7.9%
Notorious RBG, born 1933 7.8%
S Breyer, born 1938 6.4%

And this does not take into account the possibility of someone retiring from the court.

Come on Ruthie, quit teasing us!

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2018 11:42 AM (oGRue)

70 61 >>US Attorney for northern California announces sudden leave from office


Because he's not on board with Sessions' take on enforcing federal weed laws?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (W+vEI)

Could be.... Now I wonder about the rumors of all the sealed indictments....

Pot related, not Security related?

Hmmmmm

Posted by: taylor at January 05, 2018 11:42 AM (NgKpN)

71 The Wichita Eagle reports an officer attempted to shoot a "mid-size, mixed-breed dog" while responding to a domestic dispute involving a suicidal 33-year-old man.

Then the cop was gonna shoot the suicidal man. I mean, why should the suicidal guy get to shoot?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 11:42 AM (ul9CR)

72 Because he's not on board with Sessions' take on enforcing federal weed laws?

Going to work foe a Law Firm

Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 05, 2018 11:42 AM (y3aQB)

73 Posted by: taylor at January 05, 2018 11:42 AM (NgKpN)

Offfff sock

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2018 11:43 AM (NgKpN)

74 Whatever headway is made with N Korea and Iran will be regarded as "just lucky" by those who fell out of power in 2017.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 05, 2018 11:43 AM (rnAwa)

75 Pervs obviously not included.

Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:39 AM (Faeqc)


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If I read it right, they forced his resignation because of "inappropriate comments" that he made.

Words. No actions, just words.

Apparently the Diversity Comedy folks didn't find it funny.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 05, 2018 11:43 AM (ks6bw)

76 Hey, where are the white penii at?

Posted by: Sheriff ThaiLadyboi at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (ctuyM)

77 Why?

You and I are responsible for where our bullets go. Shouldn't the policeman be too?

A ricochet is an expected event.


Ricochets are also often unpredictable, and it wasn't a ricochet but a fragmenting bullet. Yeah, he is responsible, but claiming that he "shot her in the head" is misleading and suggests a much greater level of negligence than seems to be the case.

And, no, I can't get worked up about cops shooting dogs. Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)

78 I'm withholding judgment until all the facts are out,"

Well, then what's the point of a good rant then?

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (7LY+6)

79 40 There are certainly too many bad shootings involving the police, but sometimes this place is like a BLM site.
Posted by: josephistan at January 05, 2018 11:36 AM (7HtZB)

Oh please. There's no comparison at all. ZOMG THE WHITE COPS ARE KILLING ALL THE BLACKS and being pissed at stupid irresponsible actions by law enforcement officers are miles apart.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (NWiLs)

80 Geez, is the Wichita PD a secret serial killer's club or something?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (ul9CR)


Could be. I know, when I was a Volunteer Fireman, quite a few of us were more than a little interested in Arson Techniques.

So I'll ask - for about the millionth time. Somebody goes up to the Career Counselor and says "For my career, I want to employ deadly force on behalf of the State against my fellow Citizens. I want arrest powers. I want to be able to enter their homes. ANd I want Legal Immunity to do it all. I want that power 24/7/365."

You think maybe - by the very nature of their career choice - even if we give said person the job, we might not ought to keep a really damn close eye on 'em ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (upzye)

81 Oh thank God the Wichita girl lived.

On the other hand, I don't think we can blame the cops. Didn't Shakespeare write "first thing we do is shoot all the dogs"?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2018 11:45 AM (LjgWA)

82 Inappropriate comment at CBSs Diversity show: That girl has got a nice ass.

Appropriate comment at CBSs Diversity show: White people need to die.

Posted by: buzzion at January 05, 2018 11:45 AM (cAnNx)

83 >>Because he's not on board with Sessions' take on enforcing federal weed laws?

I bet it has more to do with sanctuary state bullshit. He's going to Sidley Austin which is Obama's old employer.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2018 11:45 AM (/tuJf)

84 Fox Business is showing all of the companies who will be giving bonuses or making new investments due to the tax cuts. Odd, no mentioned of the millions killed by it

They're not finished counting all the dead yet.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2018 11:45 AM (tRaq7)

85 Late - so probably already posted. First reaction to the child's note is from Revelation Chapter One.


"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (lwiT4)

86 Well, look what happened with one of those "trained professionals."

Again, the double standard is overwhelming.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at January 05, 2018 11:41 AM (PFy0L)

Yup.... and considering I WAS trained by the US Government to carry a gun...

Uh....

But my latest argument for those who don't support the 2nd Amendment???

Just think if the protestors in Iran, who you SAY you support, had the 2nd Amendment...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (NgKpN)

87
CNBC headline - Sexual harassment to headline Golden Globes. Gee, sounds like a real hoot. Let me guess, hours of Trump bashing and no mention of Weinstein, Spacey etc

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (493sH)

88 Words. No actions, just words."

Hey babe, how badly do you wanna be on the telecast?

(zipper sound in background)

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (7LY+6)

89 @80 Could be worse. Could have asked to be a teacher.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (H5rtT)

90 Diversity?

Let me guess. The only white guys will be homos.

Posted by: JAS at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (7JbXq)

91 Trump's sword dance was different than Bush's oil deals. Trump announced sovereignty, ascendancy of the nation state.

Remove the support for terror and even Iran could be our friend again. Help the people retake their countries .. "the people" are as oppressed by leaders that back terror as their "enemies" across the borders.

Same for the Norks maybe .. but these are giant reversals of fortunes, made by tyrants that want to keep their trillions. Keep the Faith.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (otAqJ)

92 Or train your dog better.
Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (Faeqc)

Uh, yeah. While the particulars of the case aren't described in that story, I'm pretty sure most dogs, no matter how well-trained, are going to start barking and causing a commotion when strange men suddenly barge into the house. I realize there are times when the cops are going to have to put the dogs down, but if you're just responding to a possible suicide call, with kids nearby, howzabout not shooting the family dog right off the bat, hm? Especially when your aim apparently isn't all that good anyway.

Posted by: T at January 05, 2018 11:47 AM (MmeCn)

93 Yasmine Mohammed speaks truth to douchebags.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 11:47 AM (W+kMI)

94 82 Inappropriate comment at CBSs Diversity show: That girl has got a nice ass.

Appropriate comment at CBSs Diversity show: White people need to die.
Posted by: buzzion at January 05, 2018 11:45 AM (cAnNx)

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but kill the ones with nice asses last.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2018 11:47 AM (oGRue)

95 They're not finished counting all the dead yet"

Yeah. The count from nutella nuttery is EPIC, I tell ya.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:48 AM (7LY+6)

96 You think maybe - by the very nature of their career choice - even if we give said person the job, we might not ought to keep a really damn close eye on 'em ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (upzye)

When we give someone the legal power to use Force... we need to hold them to HIGHER, not LOWER, standards.

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2018 11:48 AM (NgKpN)

97 That seven-year old kid in Mr. Turner's class would have crushed Gollum in the riddle game.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 11:48 AM (W+kMI)

98 Because he's not on board with Sessions' take on enforcing federal weed laws?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 11:40 AM (W+vEI)


Mebbe. Though it seems the weed thing is, I don't know, kind of Fake News. I mean, yeah, Session's awoke from a slumber to change Obama policy - which was to force the DoJ not to enforce US law in states that had legalized pot.

Sessions got rid of that, and said it was up to each US attorney.

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2018 11:48 AM (Z5y53)

99 Hmmmm.... I didn't see...

Did the Dog live?

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (NgKpN)

100 Especially when your aim apparently isn't all that good anyway.


That's a fair point. He should at least be put on administrative leave for failing to murder Rover.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (LjgWA)

101 Wichita cop responding to 911 suicide call accidentally shoots 9-year-old girl in the forehead
Because he was shooting at the family dog....


Odds are the asshole gets to "retire" at full pension?

And that the poor girl's family are SOL because you can't sue the cops?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (kqsXK)

102 And, no, I can't get worked up about cops shooting dogs. Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial.
Posted by: Grey Fox


It's the dogs that are shot that have everyone upset. From chihuahuas to old, decrepit to lovable pooches.

RARELY is it a snarling, growling pit bull.

And honestly, if a dog scares you, you have no business being a cop.
Because I can show you prisons full of people that will scare you 100 times worse.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (0R8lo)

103 The American Society for the Promotion and Preservation of Conscience would like to remind you that Diversity includes . . . .


Everyone.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (2K6fY)

104 The only white guys will be homos."

Erectus? Sapiens?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (7LY+6)

105 You know, if the dog was locked on the fucking cops leg, he might not have missed.

Then the sweet disability. Win, win.

New SOP?

Posted by: nip at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (ECLaL)

106 95 They're not finished counting all the dead yet"

Yeah. The count from nutella nuttery is EPIC, I tell ya.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:48 AM (7LY+6)

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If you'd each send me $7.39 today, i can begin the process of recounting all the dead.

Posted by: Jill Stein at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (oGRue)

107 Or train your dog better.
Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (Faeqc)

Guess it is too late to add a sarc tag.

Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:49 AM (Faeqc)

108 So the guy who wrote that anti-Trump book admits he can't verify if parts of it are true.

He won't say which parts so that means the entire book is garbage.

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (+Dllb)

109 6 Why is there a NATO at all?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2018 11:28 AM (IqV8l)


I think NATO should have disbanded when the Warsaw Pact did. It's another illustration of how institutions take on a life of their own even after their reason for existence no longer applies.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (xjiRE)

110 Whatever headway is made with N Korea and Iran will be regarded as "just lucky" by those who fell out of power in 2017.

It was all due to Obama's policies just like the economy!!

*licks window*

*fucks couch*

Posted by: Windowlicking Couchfuckers at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (XkVXQ)

111 and yet, In Living Color was great.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (QQ+il)

112 Every time I think Trump is making progress to drag this country to sanity and there is some hope I see something like the CBS Diversity Comics and I am slung back to reality. Seems like the the left always have new vast reserves of stupidity they haven't even tapped into yet.

It's like invading Russia. There is always more.

Posted by: Ripley at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (MxEKc)

113 105 You know, if the dog was locked on the fucking cops leg, he might not have missed.

Then the sweet disability. Win, win.

New SOP?
He got a lil bit of Mississippi Leg Hound in him and if he starts into you best to let him finish

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2018 11:51 AM (BtQd4)

114 Reporting something Scogg said in the last thread:

"We've elevated Police from a status of Citizens with temporary arrest powers to a Full-Time Extra-Constitutional Class."

This is the systemic problem, or at least one of them. Constitutional restraints on police powers have been systematically eroded by the courts overall, all the way down to the local level. Prosecutors are generally loath to indict and juries loath to convict. Take a look at that fucker in Mesa, or the cops who beat Kelly Thomas to death. This is unacceptable anywhere, but especially in what's supposed to be a republic of free men.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 11:51 AM (NWiLs)

115 Diversity Comedy Showcase sounds like something created for unfunny people of color who wish they were funny. Or white. Or something.

Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2018 11:51 AM (2Mnv1)

116 It's like invading Russia. There is always more.
=================================


It's like evil. There is an endless supply. For now.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 11:51 AM (lwiT4)

117 Diversity?

Let me guess. The only white guys will be homos.

Posted by: JAS at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (7JbXq)
...........

Just like New Years eve hosts on CNN.

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2018 11:52 AM (HgMAr)

118 *licks window*

*fucks couch*
Posted by: Windowlicking Couchfuckers at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (XkVXQ)

I laughed.

Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:52 AM (Faeqc)

119 They have an extremely tough job and most aren't looking for reasons to shoot or beat someone for the hell of it.

Really ? Then why did they seek the job ?

I'm quite serious. They just wanna' help their neighbors ? Then coach Little League. Be an Unarmed Mall Security Guard. Go for Paramedic.

Like big guns and looking for a fight. Join the Military.

Nah ... they purposely seek a job that, by definition, involves the Projection of Deadly Force upon their Fellow Citizens. That's the job.

Yet we all stand around friggin' stunned when Dudes that Seek to Project Power become Cops that Eagerly Project Power.

Amazing.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:52 AM (upzye)

120 @Grey Fox ... apex predators? No freaking way. Maybe wolves are, but domesticated dogs are no where near wolves. I have a 6lb Maltese and a 50lb mystery mix (maybe Lab and beagle?), and they are not apex predators AT ALL. They are noisy when they bark, and that's about it. The vast majority of domestic dogs couldn't survive in the wild if they were just dumped (unlike cats, which do fine).

Posted by: sunny-dee at January 05, 2018 11:52 AM (QAOZh)

121 96 You think maybe - by the very nature of their career choice - even if we give said person the job, we might not ought to keep a really damn close eye on 'em ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (upzye)

When we give someone the legal power to use Force... we need to hold them to HIGHER, not LOWER, standards.
Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2018 11:48 AM (NgKpN)

THIS.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 11:53 AM (NWiLs)

122 30 It's 1130. You think ace is making any headway on the bright and early at 0900 resolution?

...shelving?

Posted by: barbarausa at January 05, 2018 11:53 AM (ru28e)

123 I liked Windowlicking Couchfuckers before they sold out.

Posted by: eleven at January 05, 2018 11:53 AM (+lOpA)

124
"For my career, I want to employ deadly force on behalf of the State against my fellow Citizens. I want arrest powers. I want to be able to enter their homes. ANd I want Legal Immunity to do it all. I want that power 24/7/365."

Posted by: ScoggDog
________________________

Been there, done that....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 05, 2018 11:53 AM (mPeei)

125 And, no, I can't get worked up about cops shooting dogs. Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial.

OK, then. I'm out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 05, 2018 11:53 AM (kqsXK)

126 CBS Diversity Comedy Showcase Has Its 2018 Cast

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you'll be hearing from our Lawyers

Posted by: Left-handed dwarf Luxembourgers at January 05, 2018 11:54 AM (oGRue)

127 If that is the strawman, what is the steelman?

I didn't read the original comment so I can't judge.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 05, 2018 11:54 AM (rnAwa)

128 I'm sensitive to and understand that the police have a dangerous and sometimes deadly job and they interact with people of all stripes and colors(often, to often; criminals) often at the low point of the peoples lives. But police departments and the officers need to be held accountable for their actions. Way to many times were the actions of a cop would be criminal if it were anybody else. Cops are civilians and should be held to the same standard as ant other person.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at January 05, 2018 11:54 AM (0OmEj)

129 >>>>>
Or train your dog better.

Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (Faeqc)



Uh, yeah. While the particulars of the case aren't described in that
story, I'm pretty sure most dogs, no matter how well-trained, are going
to start barking and causing a commotion when strange men suddenly
barge into the house. I realize there are times when the cops are going
to have to put the dogs down, but if you're just responding to a
possible suicide call, with kids nearby, howzabout not shooting the
family dog right off the bat, hm? Especially when your aim apparently
isn't all that good anyway.
.
.
.No matter how well trained a dog is, if they feel there is a threat to their home or family they will deal with that threat and shouting men with bright lights running into a house are a threat to them.

No amount of training can totally overcome 10,000 years of breeding and evolution.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2018 11:54 AM (+Dllb)

130 *fucks couch*
Posted by: Windowlicking Couchfuckers at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM


Dude. This is a family blog. Show some class.

Posted by: The Man on the Ottoman at January 05, 2018 11:54 AM (ctuyM)

131 @ScoggDog, that's actually why I detest the system of having a police force. Having some kind of police presence is necessary, but I think it should be taken from the general public -- like they used to in the old West. Having a dedicate police force means, essentially, we're just hiring thugs and bouncers to be thugs and bouncers, and none of us respectable people need to get our hands dirty or think through the implications of what we do as a society.

(Interestingly, the sheriff's departments tend to have entirely different mentalities than police forces.)

Posted by: sunny-dee at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (QAOZh)

132 And, no, I can't get worked up about cops shooting dogs. Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial.

OK, then. I'm out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


No worries. I've met you. You're a prince of a man, but not an apex predator. You'll be safe.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (LjgWA)

133 >>and yet, In Living Color was great.


And Chappelle show, Key and Peele, MADtv....

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (W+vEI)

134 Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial. "

Huh.

Got a pair of Shih Tzus here...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (7LY+6)

135 Barry was told the United States was the world's policeman, so he decided he should shoot Israel in the forehead.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (ks6bw)

136 118 *licks window*

*fucks couch*
Posted by: Windowlicking Couchfuckers at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (XkVXQ)

I laughed.
Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:52 AM (Faeqc)

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He's doing it WRONG

Posted by: Couchfucking Windowlickers at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (oGRue)

137 Inappropriate comment at CBSs Diversity show: That girl has got a nice ass.

Any of these hairstylists not a homo?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (ul9CR)

138 Judicial Watch has, again, found even more evidence of James Comey's accessory after the fact guilt in hiding Clinton crimes. The incredible has become so commonplace we hardly notice it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycm9jols

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad,bad man at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (ylUqT)

139 Back in the good old days, the question of whether a dictatorial regime was irredeemably wicked or (at worst) slightly flawed depended on its embrace of Marxist ideology. No enemies to the Left! All that is not Left is of the devil!

Now the calculus has shifted from embrace of Marxism to embrace of simple anti-Americanism as the criterion.

Once upon a time, even the Left hated the Ayatollahs.
But that sweet, sweet call of "Death to America! Death to the Great Satan!" has proven irresistible.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (0jtPF)

140 Unless you have participated in an unlawful killing while in a position of authority backed by the full force of government you have no right to comment on such a story.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (k2Hcx)

141 Really ? Then why did they seek the job ?



I'm quite serious. They just wanna' help their neighbors ? Then
coach Little League. Be an Unarmed Mall Security Guard. Go for
Paramedic.

==========================


Son-in-law's brother is a police officer. Also coaches Little League. Also is active in their church. Also is active in daughter's school. Never shot anyone. Never shot a dog.


Do you really think we're going to hear news stories about officers like him? Or we only going to hear stories from cops gone wild? And what do you think the ratio is?


Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (lwiT4)

142 It's the dogs that are shot that have everyone upset. From chihuahuas to old, decrepit to lovable pooches.

RARELY is it a snarling, growling pit bull.

And honestly, if a dog scares you, you have no business being a cop.
Because I can show you prisons full of people that will scare you 100 times worse.


Every dog is a cuddly little furball who would never, ever bit anyone, according to its owners. Just like every aspiring rapper who gets shot was just innocently walking down the street, according to his mom.

I work in other people's houses, which means I meet their dogs. After a couple years and a couple bad experiences I tend to be pretty skeptical about what people say about their canids. I now treat every dog as a potential threat until proven otherwise.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (bZ7mE)

143 All dug out from Nasty Alan Grayson's shit storm...

Posted by: Voter Dude at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (U5Xeq)

144 71 The Wichita Eagle reports an officer attempted to shoot a "mid-size, mixed-breed dog" while responding to a domestic dispute involving a suicidal 33-year-old man.

Then the cop was gonna shoot the suicidal man. I mean, why should the suicidal guy get to shoot?
========
So a guy is having a super bad day and they send the SWAT team in to get him like he is Scarface? Didn't they try to talk him down first? (You know, like SOP for police response to potential suicides.) And they tried to shoot the dog. Again. Hitting a dog with pepper spray to the nose will get it to STFU. the wee girl got hit by a riochet so I smell a big legal payday for her family.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (W+kMI)

145 #morethan10miles

Posted by: jsg at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (gs8be)

146 I'm going to raise hounds who are bred to hump the perp's leg instead of biting.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (rnAwa)

147 127 If that is the strawman, what is the steelman?

I didn't read the original comment so I can't judge.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 05, 2018 11:54 AM (rnAwa)

Where's the hollow man? And the stuffed man? MIA, as per usual.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (NWiLs)

148 Ok, temps near 60 (yay). Got work to do. Y'all play nice, y'hear?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (7LY+6)

149 111 and yet, In Living Color was great.

Two snaps up-with a twist!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (ul9CR)

150
Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial.

Off to vacuum the kennel. Hope not to be rent asunder by the 12 unpredictable, aggressive, territorial apex predators out there.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM (BFvo/)

151
He's doing it WRONG
Posted by: Couchfucking Windowlickers


Splitters!

Posted by: Windowfucking Couchlickers at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM (LjgWA)

152 It's 1130. You think ace is making any headway on the bright and early at 0900 resolution?

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (Z5y53)

To be fair, he did get rid of the Sonobi monstrosity. And he's probably doing his exercises. You don't get those biceps and strong right hand grip for fapping by sleeping past noon.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM (R5lpX)

153
The only white guys will be homos."

Erectus? Sapiens?


Jocko

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM (IqV8l)

154 USN, I agree, the question I have right now "Does the Wichita PD need to Barney Fife their officers for the time being and get this under control'?

Posted by: PJ a twin with twins at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM (3Ngvn)

155 136 118 *licks window*

*fucks couch*
Posted by: Windowlicking Couchfuckers at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (XkVXQ)

I laughed.
Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 11:52 AM (Faeqc)

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He's doing it WRONG
Posted by: Couchfucking Windowlickers at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (oGRue)

Splitters!

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM (NWiLs)

156 Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 11:51 AM (NWiLs)

------------------------------------------

Whenever I see an officer involved shooting, I play a little game called, "What if I'd have done that?" (as someone with a CCW permit, I better know what I can and cannot do)


Invariably, I, as a private citizen, would be in jail forever, meanwhile, officer not-so-friendly walks.

It enrages me that I'm held to a higher standard than cops. And irritates me even more when people who are supposedly on "our" side buy into the line "cops just want to go home at night."

Posted by: Blake at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM (WEBkv)

157 Unless you have participated in an unlawful killing while in a position of authority backed by the full force of government you have no right to comment on such a story.



It's more than ten miles from me anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (QQ+il)

158 >>Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial. Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)

You misspelled cops.

Posted by: Zod at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (Bdeb0)

159 This article gives a little more detail about the police shooting.

https://tinyurl.com/y7z7ud5n

Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (/tuJf)

160 Really ? Then why did they seek the job ?

I'm quite serious. They just wanna' help their neighbors ? Then coach Little League. Be an Unarmed Mall Security Guard. Go for Paramedic.

Like big guns and looking for a fight. Join the Military.

Nah ... they purposely seek a job that, by definition, involves the Projection of Deadly Force upon their Fellow Citizens. That's the job.

Yet we all stand around friggin' stunned when Dudes that Seek to Project Power become Cops that Eagerly Project Power.

Amazing.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:52 AM

You're right, so we shouldn't have any police then. Let me know how that works for you.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (tPrp3)

161 *licks window*



*fucks couch*

Posted by: Windowlicking Couchfuckers at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (XkVXQ)



--


He's doing it WRONG

Posted by: Couchfucking Windowlickers at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (oGRue)


--

NOW you tell me.

Posted by: Windowfucking Couchlickers at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (ks6bw)

162 >>>>>Leading contenders are...



A Kennedy, born 1936 7.9%

Notorious RBG, born 1933 7.8%

S Breyer, born 1938 6.4%



And this does not take into account the possibility of someone retiring from the court.



Come on Ruthie, quit teasing us!
.
.
.Ruth "Buzzy" Ginsberg will never retire while Trump is President, especially after the recusal worthy comments she made about him during the election.

He will only get to replace her if he gets a second term, after all she will be 87 in 2020.

We seriously need age limits for all SCOTUS and Federal for Life Judges.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (+Dllb)

163 I don't excuse the Wichita cop for shooting wildly at the dog. I just think that the (wife I suppose) who called 911 had some duty to get the dog and kids out of the line of fire before the cops came pounding at the door. But it could be that one of the kids called 911 or the 33yr old man himself did and there was no sane adult who knew about the call to act to protect the kids and lock the dog up to keep chaos and tensions down a little bit.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (84F5k)

164 Any chance this diverse crew is half Trump voters, or a third evangelical?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (oGRue)

165 Thinking about local incidents with bad cops, I also remembered the time of cops took out a crazed sniper who opened fire on our big parade, which is the second largest in the nation.

This was in 1979, before local cops had much training on SWAT and mass shootings, but they were absolutely competent and heroic.

Short article:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y86lva6l



Posted by: stace at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (6HFDU)

166 You know what has two thumbs and is a domesticated apex predator, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (QQ+il)

167 Do you really think we're going to hear news stories about officers like him? Or we only going to hear stories from cops gone wild? And what do you think the ratio is?


Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (lwiT4)


Don't care grammie. You trust him because he's your son-in-law's brother.

I don't ... because he's got too much power. The system is flawed. Bigly.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (upzye)

168 I saw Apex Predator open for Mastodon

Scandinavian Metal and Lutefisk Festival '08

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 12:00 PM (ul9CR)

169 What really aggravates me about all the "accidental" police shootings is the fact that the only people ever held accountable are the taxpayers. Who have to payout for the civil suits.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 05, 2018 12:00 PM (mpXpK)

170 and yet, In Living Color was great.

Posted by: Grump928(C)


Because they believed in diversity of targets as well...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at January 05, 2018 12:00 PM (AM1GF)

171 Any chance this diverse crew is half Trump voters, or a third evangelical?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (oGRue)
===========================

Yeah, I think I read that Billy Graham is part of the cast.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:00 PM (lwiT4)

172 "All of you staunch defenders of police actions such as this"

Pardon me, but fuck off. All of us staunch defenders of police are quite capable of declaring that cops are people that some times make bad decisions, and even sometimes intentionally criminal ones, while also taking the time to look at individual cases that come to media attention and discerning whether or not that individual case is egregious, criminal or abusive. Because we have defended police actions in other cases does not give you the right to lump this in with the others as a "such as" case. That's leftist bullshit.

Posted by: ef at January 05, 2018 12:00 PM (ndqCM)

173 158 >>Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial. Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)

You misspelled cops.
Posted by: Zod at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (Bdeb0)

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and wives

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2018 12:01 PM (oGRue)

174 I don't ... because he's got too much power. The system is flawed. Bigly.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (upzye)
========================

So what's your solution?

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:01 PM (lwiT4)

175 I am the beginning of everything, the end of everywhere. I'm the beginning of eternity, the end of time and space. What Am I ?

Whatever you say, dear.

Posted by: jsg at January 05, 2018 12:01 PM (gs8be)

176 111 and yet, In Living Color was great.
========
"Diversity Comedy Showcase" sounds like it could have been a sketch on "In Living Color". Those guys took shots at everybody, and patronizing liberal white people took their share of hits.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 12:01 PM (W+kMI)

177 Dear Americans,
Quit your navel-gazing.
...........

C'mon, I've got to pick the lint out of my belly button ring.

Posted by: Don Lemon with masking tape on his forehead at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (HgMAr)

178 General question. Do you think law enforcement is held more accountable now and less corrupt than it was 50 years ago or not?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (pCPGh)

179 169 What really aggravates me about all the "accidental" police shootings is the fact that the only people ever held accountable are the taxpayers. Who have to payout for the civil suits.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 05, 2018 12:00 PM (mpXpK)

Which is why cops and their unions need to start being required to put up bonds or have some form of insurance so it's coming out of their own pockets and not just the taxpayers. Having skin in the game would promote more responsible behavior, one would think.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (NWiLs)

180 Oh goodie, another CBDildo cop thread.

Don't pull a muscle tarring thousands of good cops with that broad brush, Mr. Dildo.

Posted by: *Types* *Deletes* at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (T9UGR)

181 From Drudge...

Newspaper exec resigns over spanking young female reporters.

You've got to pay extra if you want to do that stuff.

Posted by: Jwest at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (/roJx)

182 161 *licks window*



*fucks couch*

Posted by: Windowlicking Couchfuckers at January 05, 2018 11:50 AM (XkVXQ)



--


He's doing it WRONG

Posted by: Couchfucking Windowlickers at January 05, 2018 11:55 AM (oGRue)


--

NOW you tell me.
Posted by: Windowfucking Couchlickers at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (ks6bw)

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BURN THE HERETIC

Posted by: Couchfucking Windowlickers at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (oGRue)

183
The Wichita Eagle reports an officer attempted to shoot a "mid-size, mixed-breed dog" while responding to a domestic dispute involving a suicidal 33-year-old man.

Then the cop was gonna shoot the suicidal man. I mean, why should the suicidal guy get to shoot?

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (W+kMI)


And now a guy who was already suicidal has a 9 year old girl getting shot hung around his neck.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (lKyWE)

184 Okay, that Wichita cop - the bullet ricocheted and a fragment struck the girl in the forehead. Still seems like a really bad idea to shoot at a dog when there are three children in the room. Wouldn't it have made more sense for the cop to ask the kids to control the dog? If you're responding to a suicide call, shouldn't you be trying to calm the situation down, not amp it up?

Posted by: biancaneve at January 05, 2018 12:03 PM (A/iod)

185 Maybe wolves are, but domesticated dogs are no where near wolves. I have a 6lb Maltese and a 50lb mystery mix (maybe Lab and beagle?), and they are not apex predators AT ALL. They are noisy when they bark, and that's about it. The vast majority of domestic dogs couldn't survive in the wild if they were just dumped (unlike cats, which do fine).

I'm not too worried about dogs that I can stomp on if necessary.

ALL dogs will bite under the right conditions, though. They wouldn't be dogs if they didn't. Owners seldom seem to know what exactly those conditions are, though, and claiming that they "would never" bite doesn't inspire confidence.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 12:03 PM (bZ7mE)

186 173 158 >>Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial. Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)

You misspelled cops.
Posted by: Zod at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (Bdeb0)

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and wives
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2018 12:01 PM (oGRue)

I think we have two thread winners here.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:03 PM (NWiLs)

187
"Any chance this diverse crew is half Trump voters, or a third evangelical?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90"

You clearly don't understand diversity.

Posted by: Ripley at January 05, 2018 12:03 PM (MxEKc)

188 Ahmad al-Gamal, an Egyptian columnist for Egyptian daily Al-Yawm Al-Sabi, advocated in the newspaper on March 11 that Egypt sue the State of Israel for damages caused by the 10 Biblical plagues.

"We want compensation for the plagues that were inflicted upon [us] as a result of the curses that the Jews' ancient forefathers [cast] upon our ancient forefathers, who did not deserve to pay for the mistake that Egypt's ruler at the time, Pharaoh, committed," the cranky journalist wrote, according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.


... I wonder who the EPA can sue over the Grand Crayon

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 05, 2018 12:03 PM (e8kgV)

189 From Drudge...

Newspaper exec resigns over spanking young female reporters.

You've got to pay extra if you want to do that stuff.

Posted by: Jwest at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (/roJx)



Were they really naughty? And any videos of that? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2018 12:03 PM (493sH)

190 So what's your solution?
Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:01 PM (lwiT4)

-------------------------

If cops truly want to restore their image, then "equal protection under the law" needs to be restored.

Too many cops walk for things ordinary citizens would go to jail for.

Posted by: Blake at January 05, 2018 12:04 PM (WEBkv)

191 "That doesn't fly at all. He shot a nine year old girl, whether intentionally or accidentally is irrelevant.
Posted by: WitchDoktor

sorta, except cops are SENT INTO highly volatile situations. Often they are facing down bad guys that pretend to be good right till they get the chance to shoot the cop. Or they call in a fake call and then can ambush the cop.

But Giuliani was fairly good at dealing with bad cops internally (or so I heard). But it is certainly a job where there can be opportunity to grant special privileges (fixing tickets, taking bribes, or worse) ... so there is not an easy fix.

But shooting the kid in the forehead? Hard to make sense of that one.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 05, 2018 12:04 PM (otAqJ)

192 You don't get those biceps and strong right hand grip for fapping by sleeping past noon.
Posted by: Traveling Man at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM


What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Triceps at January 05, 2018 12:04 PM (ctuyM)

193 From the JackStraw link:

The case will be reviewed by the District Attorney's Office in addition to an internal review to determine if department policies were followed.

I think the problem many of us have is that "shoot the dog first" is in fact department policy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2018 12:04 PM (LjgWA)

194 Cops can engage in other behaviors, short of shooting, that bother me I.e. high speed chases that make a situation more dangerous, or pulling someone over in heavy traffic which also seems to make driving more dangerous for everyone else.
Just my two cents worth.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 05, 2018 12:04 PM (nBr1j)

195 Cats are predatory. Dogs, not so much.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (lwiT4)

196 Ape X was an aspiring rapper.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (IqV8l)

197 I blame whoever started the asinine idea that the cop's number one priority is to go home safely at night.

NO!

Your number one priority is to protect and serve the general peaceful public.

Sometimes that means sacrifice.

Remember those two amazing soldiers who stood their ground and killed that truck bomb driver, knowing they would be killed? That stupid credo above would dictate they run away and let the truck bomb kill their mates.

If your number one priority is to go home at night, don't be a cop. Go work in a business park and let someone who's not going to panic shoot a little girl in the head take the job.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (mCZxS)

198 25 6 Why is there a NATO at all?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2018 11:28 AM (IqV8l)

Why tooo.. to protect against the Warsaw Pact!... er... USSR!... ...
Posted by: Moses at January 05, 2018 11:33 AM (NgKpN)

There is another Moses?! Niiice! Hi Moses!

Posted by: Moses at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (I/amE)

199 I love the answer to that riddle by the 1st grader! Great insight.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (2sCft)

200 If Hamlet had a dog I bet it would have been a Great Dane.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (ul9CR)

201 You're right, so we shouldn't have any police then. Let me know how that works for you.
Posted by: Minnfidel


Probably work better.

Remember, the cops aren't there to protect you from the criminal. Cops are there to protect the criminals from society.

Because society tends to string the fuckers up when they've had enough. Vigilance committees.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (0R8lo)

202 The background of the Diversity Cast sure looks like they all steeped in the same tea.

Posted by: DanMan at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (XTiHL)

203
175 I am the beginning of everything, the end of everywhere. I'm the beginning of eternity, the end of time and space. What Am I?


a self-absorbed putz, from the sound of things

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (pNxlR)

204 >>Having skin in the game would promote more responsible behavior, one would think.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:02 PM (NWiLs)

Yes...something like "forfeit cop."

"...and let's be safe out there. One of you commits a wrongful shooting, and Bob over there automatically gets the electric chair. Oh, and don't forget, potluck next Friday has been cancelled. Buckle up."

Posted by: Zod at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (Bdeb0)

205 Diversity Comedy = jumbo shrimp.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (m6qV1)

206 "I would not have been able to imagine that we would be living in a country where neo-Nazis are doing torchlight parades in Charlottesville [Virginia] and jokes about Pocahontas are being made in front of the Navajo code talkers. And individually we have to decide when we take to the ramparts. You don't take to the ramparts necessarily right away, but you do have to start weighing things. You may think: 'You know what? I think now is the time,'"
_Tom Hanks

Posted by: Hello motha, hello fatha, how's my darling little at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (U/b2O)

207 192 You don't get those biceps and strong right hand grip for fapping by sleeping past noon.
Posted by: Traveling Man at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM

What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Triceps at January 05, 2018 12:04 PM (ctuyM)

Get biceps, triceps, arceps HARD!

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (NWiLs)

208 @Grey Fox, all dogs will be. I didn't say they wouldn't. Freaking squirrels and field mice will bite. That doesn't make them an apex predator, and it doesn't make it cool for cops to shoot at them willy-nilly.

It's doubly not cool for a cop to be firing wildly in a room with kids in it on a non-violent* domestic call.

* The story didn't say the nature of 'suicidal'. If the guy had a weapon out, that does change things a lot. Doesn't make it okay to shoot at dogs in a roomful of kids, though.

Posted by: sunny-dee at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (QAOZh)

209 Yeah we can pull cops from the streets. Who doesnt want to be like Baltimore?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (pCPGh)

210 "Oh, never mind. I didn't see combat in Afghanistan, so I am not qualified to comment on this event."

You're just a professional dick when it comes to police, aren't you?

1) pick outlier event
2) pretend it's representative of an entire class of people
3) pose as morally superior, with shitty sarcasm that tacitly admits your position of relative ignorance

Very progressive of you.

Posted by: Apostate at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (7d/38)

211 You're right, so we shouldn't have any police then. Let me know how that works for you.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 11:58 AM (tPrp3)


Police as currently empowered ? I avoid them like a plague. Would not call them under any circumstances ... excepting maybe to clean up the mess after an intruder.

But I'll go ahead and blow up your statement. It's a statement often made by the Police Apologists. If we're a nation of Citizens - all with equal rights - then this cop should have no immunity. This cop should be tried as a Citizen. Furthermore, this cop - and all cops - should only be granted Police Powers WHILE ON DUTY. While we're at it - leave the service weapon and car at the station when you leave. When your shift is over ... you're Citizen Friendly. Oh - and Citizen Friendly - since you Volunteered for the job - make sure you live on the beat that you walk. Country Sherriff ... live in the county. City Cop - live in your precinct.

We go back to that ... we'll have a functioning Police Force beneficial to the Citizenry again. But not until.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (upzye)

212 And Macbeth had a Scottish Terrier.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2018 12:07 PM (ul9CR)

213 You know what has two thumbs and is a domesticated apex predator, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial?

Humans come to mind. Is that supposed to refute or support my point?

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 12:07 PM (bZ7mE)

214 194 or pulling someone over in heavy traffic which also seems to make driving more dangerous for everyone else. Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 05, 2018 12:04 PM (nBr1j)

This, to the hilt! Pull over onto a side-street, jackass--no sense in taking up a whole lane of the parkway.

Posted by: Zod at January 05, 2018 12:07 PM (Bdeb0)

215 Also, he didn't "shoot the girl in the forehead." She was hit by a ricochet fragment.

So, lying, too.

Posted by: Apostate at January 05, 2018 12:07 PM (7d/38)

216 163
I don't excuse the Wichita cop for shooting wildly at the dog. I just
think that the (wife I suppose) who called 911 had some duty to get the
dog and kids out of the line of fire before the cops came pounding at
the door. But it could be that one of the kids called 911 or the 33yr
old man himself did and there was no sane adult who knew about the call
to act to protect the kids and lock the dog up to keep chaos and
tensions down a little bit.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 05, 2018 11:59 AM (84F5k)


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I think it's often a perfect storm setup, too. These guys deal mostly with the dregs of society, and often the same 10% dregs. Lady who calls the cops to arrest her boyfriend for punching her is arrested a month later because she punches someone else. Little league druggies arrested for stealing their friends stereo and then calling the cops because someone stole their hot plate. Walking into this scenario almost every time you have to respond to a call would have to take a toll on how you mentally go into every environment.

To add to it, think of the dullest, most average, most uninquisitive person you know. Half the population is worse at everything than than that person.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 05, 2018 12:07 PM (ks6bw)

217 Were they really naughty? And any videos of that? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2018 12:03 PM (493sH)


Maybe this is common practice in the newspaper business. It would explain why some billionaires buy publications that lose money hand over fist.

Posted by: Jwest at January 05, 2018 12:08 PM (/roJx)

218 To add to it, think of the dullest, most average, most uninquisitive person you know. Half the population is worse at everything than than that person.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 05, 2018 12:07 PM (ks6bw)

And some of them are cops...

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:08 PM (NWiLs)

219 oh for the love of pete

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:08 PM (lwiT4)

220 I'm not too worried about dogs that I can stomp on if necessary



THOSE are the dogs cops ARE shooting. Why do you think people are pissed and tempers run high?

Like I said, RARELY do cops shoot the snarling pit bull. It's the one that they could handle with a swift kick that gets shot.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2018 12:09 PM (0R8lo)

221 I'm a loving guy, what can I say.

Posted by: Pete at January 05, 2018 12:09 PM (NWiLs)

222
Also, he didn't "shoot the girl in the forehead." She was hit by a ricochet fragment.


Well then I guess that makes it okay.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2018 12:09 PM (lKyWE)

223 159 This article gives a little more detail about the police shooting.

https://tinyurl.com/y7z7ud5n
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Thanks for the article, man. It downplays the events, but confirms my take on the case that the police in question reacted with too much force again. Shooting the family pet that is acting in home/family defense mode is too much force. The girl who caught the ricochet was probably running after the dog trying to get it to stop. Bad call, and the officer should get a reprimand for it, although having to live knowing he harmed a kid will hurt him more than anything administrative.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 12:10 PM (W+kMI)

224 At least 18 classified emails have been found on Anthony Weiners laptop, according to a review of 798 documents recently released by the State Department.

What a fukn joke!

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2018 12:10 PM (BtQd4)

225 I'm totes convinced that the dog shooter didn't breach any law enforcement protocols. Totes.

Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2018 12:10 PM (2Mnv1)

226 >>And individually we have to decide when we take to the ramparts.'"_Tom Hanks
Posted by: Hello motha, hello fatha, how's my darling little at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (U/b2O)

I don't know much, but films that depict Vietnam veterans as drooling small-town Faulknerian grotesques or crippled drunks might be one time to take to the ramparts, Tom.

Posted by: Zod at January 05, 2018 12:10 PM (Bdeb0)

227
Tom Hanks, engaged in rampartee.

I think the balls of suet with raisins for eyes #resistance brigade in their snazzy skin-tight spandex uniforms may have at last found their commander.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2018 12:11 PM (pNxlR)

228 >>I think the problem many of us have is that "shoot the dog first" is in fact department policy.

I think the problem is we don't really have all the facts and we are making judgements about the cops actions anyway.

Cops get a domestic disturbance call in a house with 3 kids and are told a man is choking a dog and has a gun in his mouth. I would assume not being complete fucking idiots they responded with guns drawn because they were called to help stop a guy with a gun in a domestic situation.

Cops go to look for the gun and the dog charges at the officer. Was it a dachshund or a pit bull? Was he really charging with teeth bared or was he just sitting on the ground barking? Who the fuck knows.

There are good cops, there are bad cops. There are honest cops, there are dirty cops. I have no frigging idea which kind of cop this one is and the exact circumstances of the shooting. I'd like to get more facts before making a decision.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2018 12:11 PM (/tuJf)

229 Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2018 12:09 PM (lKyWE)M


That is not what he said. And it is shitty of you to imply that. Some of you lose your minds when talking about cops.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 05, 2018 12:11 PM (pCPGh)

230 NATO. Inertia. Greatest force in nature. And NATO was spectacularly successful at its mission. Which went away, as our generational enemy collapsed. Unequal "burden-sharing" back then, free-ridership problem? Oh yes. But it all worked out.


Now, since 1991, as rickl pointed out - why NATO *now*?


In response to the Soviet collapse the US dramatically scaled back its conventional forces, and it's physical presence in Europe. So there was a reaction to changed conditions.


There was actually no need to disband NATO in 1991.


Geography presents a dilemma. The only states who are both vulnerable and might be considered to deserve US protection are in eastern Europe. These states leaped to be at our side in our post-9/11 wars, while old NATO either bit our ankles from the sidelines or made token contributions (UK and Canada excepted). They're also the only NATO members to really have any military left, to speak of, though they're tiny of course.


Turkey. Whole different dilemma there.


One "solution" might be to replace NATO with a new body - Old Europe is on its own, though of course we maintain close coordination. New Europe gets a security guarantee. Turkey is out.

Posted by: Farshimmelt AlteKocker, AKA rhomboid at January 05, 2018 12:11 PM (QDnY+)

231 222
Also, he didn't "shoot the girl in the forehead." She was hit by a ricochet fragment.


Well then I guess that makes it okay.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2018 12:09 PM (lKyWE)

Could just have easily been a fatal shot like that lady in Iowa who was shot and killed by a cop who was trying to kill her dog. And I suppose bullet fragments just pop off of unfired bullets and hurtle themselves through space.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:11 PM (NWiLs)

232 I think the problem many of us have is that "shoot the dog first" is in fact department policy.

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I thought the policy was first, we kill all the lawyers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 05, 2018 12:11 PM (p4vgJ)

233 They WANT the country to be unalterably divided, because they think that identity politics and a third world aesthetic is ascendent in America. Maybe it is, but before we get there these folks will have to some heavy lifting, and I don't think they are up to the task.

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The networks may not be up to the task because they are trying to force this on people, and will only drive away more viewers.

But as for politicians, they don't have to be up to the task, because the country was already divided according to identity politics. That division results in odious politicians rather than the other way around. And that isn't going away, any more than there's any chance of Sheila Jackson-Lee losing her "safe seat". Even when blacks, homosexuals, refugees, etc. become football players or are well treated and accepted or whatever, they still carry around the identity politics chip on their shoulder. There's nothing to be done except to get rid of RINOs that practice appeasement, and to stop masochistically consuming products like this CBS crapfest.

Posted by: Charles Darwin at January 05, 2018 12:12 PM (/qEW2)

234 THOSE are the dogs cops ARE shooting. Why do you think people are pissed and tempers run high?

Like I said, RARELY do cops shoot the snarling pit bull. It's the one that they could handle with a swift kick that gets shot.


Source?

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 12:12 PM (bZ7mE)

235 And, no, I can't get worked up about cops shooting dogs. Dogs are domesticated apex predators, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)


One of the best shots of my LEO career was a killing a dog trying to bite me. Cleared leather and put one bullet in its forehead as the dog was leaping at me.

Worked with plenty of guys mauled by dogs. Just because its your family pet doesn't mean that the dog doesn't see the cop as an interloper in its territory AND dogs are territorial animals.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 05, 2018 12:12 PM (YQ4mh)

236 Thanks for the article, man. It downplays the events, but confirms my take on the case that the police in question reacted with too much force again. Shooting the family pet that is acting in home/family defense mode is too much force. The girl who caught the ricochet was probably running after the dog trying to get it to stop. Bad call, and the officer should get a reprimand for it, although having to live knowing he harmed a kid will hurt him more than anything administrative.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 12:10 PM (W+kMI)

You don't know that. What if he truly doesn't give a fuck?

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:13 PM (NWiLs)

237 When I had dogs, I was kind of the weird guy.

ALWAYS walked them on a leash, NEVER assumed they would be good with a stranger. They always were, I'm happy to say - but I didn't assume it.

Cleaned up their leavings, and figured that I was fully responsible for anything they did.

I liked them a lot better than I did most people - but never thought I could put their interests ahead of any person's.

This made me weird - but the dogs and I were happy and safe.

Posted by: Parker at January 05, 2018 12:13 PM (ZfzDM)

238 222
"Also, he didn't "shoot the girl in the forehead." She was hit by a ricochet fragment."


Sure, maybe it was technically a "ricochet fragment", but the story is so much better if just sticks to the raw facts that a cop shot the girl in the forehead.

If you had a degree in journalism, you would know this.

Posted by: Jwest at January 05, 2018 12:13 PM (/roJx)

239 (didn't read all comments- sorry if this has been done already)

Diversity Comedy :

A black man, a homosexual, and a muslim walk into a gay bathhouse.

"Sorry, Mr Obama," says the attendant, "We closed last New Year. Nice to see you again, though."

Posted by: mindful webworker - knee-slapping guffaws at January 05, 2018 12:13 PM (YxyYj)

240 . And individually we have to decide when we take to the ramparts. You don't take to the ramparts necessarily right away, but you do have to start weighing things. You may think: 'You know what? I think now is the time,'"
_Tom Hanks

Posted by: Hello motha, hello fatha, how's my darling little at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM (U/b2O)




Oh please take the ramparts you spoiled, obnoxious, over rated, no talent, ass clown. This POS has the acting ability of a 2x4 and is lucky as hell to have a career. Lefty scumbag

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2018 12:13 PM (493sH)

241 Cops get a domestic disturbance call in a house with 3 kids and are told a man is choking a dog and has a gun in his mouth.

Well that explains. Cop saw dude with a gun in the dog's mouth and said "No way in hell I'm letting THAT GUY have all the fun !!!"

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:14 PM (upzye)

242 213 You know what has two thumbs and is a domesticated apex predator, unpredictable, and often aggressive and territorial?

Humans come to mind. Is that supposed to refute or support my point?

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 12:07 PM (bZ7mE)



That little girl could have rushed at the cop and bit him too.

Posted by: buzzion at January 05, 2018 12:14 PM (cAnNx)

243 I don't know or pretend to know what was going on in that house. Hypothetically, if I were sent in to handle a dangerous situation and it came down to protecting a dog or protecting a human being, I wouldn't even have to hesitate in that situation.


I don't know if that was the case here. It doesn't sound like it was. I just don't like seeing the life of a dog outweigh the life of a person, or even instilling that kind of mentality.


I worked for a vet for many many years. I have seen vicious dogs and fearful dogs. Both are dangerous. I have had more than my share of bites that have sent me to the ER and incapacitated me for weeks.


If I had a split second to react, if I thought that dog was going to cause harm? You bet.


Flame away.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (lwiT4)

244 There is another Moses?! Niiice! Hi Moses!
Posted by: Moses at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM (I/amE)

You are not Moses. You are E.

Posted by: golfman at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (Faeqc)

245
Tom Hanks, administer IV of D5W and transport immediately.

Posted by: Ramparts at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (IqV8l)

246
I chose God as the answer to the puzzle of the week, weird that kid chose death, but public schools will do that to you.

Yaz Mo is spot on in the tweet, except for her misunderstanding the the Left's "values" are fascism.

And finally, only the police should have guns, the fascists tell me, then we can have a good govt like that in Iran.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (r+sAi)

247 190
If cops truly want to restore their image, then "equal protection under the law" needs to be restored.

Too many cops walk for things ordinary citizens would go to jail for.
Posted by: Blake at January 05, 2018 12:04 PM (WEBkv)


Ending sovereign immunity would seem to be crucial. Hold a cop personally responsible when he screws up, exactly the same as I would be.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (xjiRE)

248 >>...You don't take to the ramparts necessarily right away, but you do have
to start weighing things. You may think: 'You know what? I think now is
the time,'"

_Tom Hanks




Who's this "we," Kemosabe?


Also...

-- How are Neo-nazi torch protesters worse than the many #BLM protests and related body count. More Dallas policemen killed by #BLM activist at *one* protest vs. Charlottesville.

-- How are jokes about Pocahontas in front of code talkers any worse than Obama's golf course-side announcement of US journalist beheading, his use of "tea-baggers" slur, his turning the WH into a celebrity playground (Jayz tweeting from Situation room, Tony Hawk skateboarding through West Wing, Michelle using it as gym with Jimmy Fallon)...?


Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (W+vEI)

249 That little girl could have rushed at the cop and bit him too.
Posted by: buzzion at January 05, 2018 12:14 PM (cAnNx)

She probably walked with a purpose. Made a furtive movement too. Should've been put down straightaway.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (NWiLs)

250 Cops go to look for the gun and the dog charges at the officer. Was it a dachshund or a pit bull? Was he really charging with teeth bared or was he just sitting on the ground barking? Who the fuck knows.

50 pound mixed breed.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (bZ7mE)

251 If I had a split second to react, if I thought that dog was going to cause harm? You bet.

Flame away.
Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:15 PM (lwiT4)


Grammie ... the Cops Hiring Board isn't reading any of this ... but if they were, my bet is You Got The Job.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:16 PM (upzye)

252 I think the problem is we don't really have all the facts and we are making judgements about the cops actions anyway.


Were we in the room in Wichita? No. If we google "police shoot dog" will we get a hundred thousand hits? Yes.

There are two things at play here. (1) did the Wichita cop act correctly? and (ii) are cops in general too trigger happy when it comes to Rover?

As to (1), we never have all the facts and all the facts never come in and the news cycle moves on. The bureaucracy marches, the Police union protects, things get procedured out of our sight. So, we talk about what's in the noozpapers because that's all we have.

What's in the newspaper is that the cop was going for what he believed to be the locaction of an unpossessed gun when a dog charged him. Is there no possible training or protocol available to police other than to shoot the dog?

As to (ii), well, I think the weight of numbers speaks for itself.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2018 12:16 PM (LjgWA)

253 >>Also, he didn't "shoot the girl in the forehead." She was hit by a ricochet fragment.


...from a bullet. That he fired.

And it hit her in the forehead.

So, what exactly did he do?

Because I'll tell what he didn't do. He didn't NOT shoot her.

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 12:17 PM (iCu30)

254 Someone should go up to Tom Hanks in a restaurant, hand him a napkin and a pen, and ask him to draw a rampart.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 05, 2018 12:17 PM (ks6bw)

255 Wow, it was pretty obvious Tom Hanks was pretty stupid and ignorant, but that's a whole new level of stupid. But an excellent example of how the country labors and declines under the Mass Disinformation that surrounds everyone without the background, mindset, intelligence, and means to figure out things for themselves.


And note that even in his embarrassing statement quoted above, he didn't match Sen. Rubio, who beclowned himself by sputtering a solid Third World, authoritarian view about free expression after C'ville.

Posted by: Farshimmelt AlteKocker, AKA rhomboid at January 05, 2018 12:17 PM (QDnY+)

256 178 General question. Do you think law enforcement is held more accountable now and less corrupt than it was 50 years ago or not?
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No, I do not think it has changed too much, or otherwise Dirty Harry and Serpico would never had been a thing. In general, police forces are held to a higher standard of accountability than 100 years ago. We just know more about the bad actors and the mistakes than we did before 24/7 news and the Internet. Read about Theodore Roosevelt's tenure as NYPD Police Commissioner to see that the need to periodically clean up the police force is a necessity for any city government.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 12:18 PM (W+kMI)

257 Can the cops get the training on dogs that USPS letter carriers get?

I don't think they shoot many of them...

Posted by: Parker at January 05, 2018 12:18 PM (ZfzDM)

258 What's in the newspaper is that the cop was going for what he believed to be the locaction of an unpossessed gun when a dog charged him. Is there no possible training or protocol available to police other than to shoot the dog?

Maybe the dog charged the unpossessed gun. Shooting Status ... Justified.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:18 PM (upzye)

259 Shooting the family pet that is acting in home/family defense mode is too much force.
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Not necessarily true.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:18 PM (lwiT4)

260 You're right, so we shouldn't have any police then. Let me know how that works for you.
Posted by: Minnfidel


Probably work better.

Remember, the cops aren't there to protect you from the criminal. Cops are there to protect the criminals from society.

Because society tends to string the fuckers up when they've had enough. Vigilance committees.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM


You're right, so we shouldn't have any police then. Let me know how that works for you.
Posted by: Minnfidel


Probably work better.

Remember, the cops aren't there to protect you from the criminal. Cops are there to protect the criminals from society.

Because society tends to string the fuckers up when they've had enough. Vigilance committees.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2018 12:05 PM

So you think we'd be better off with no cops. Sorry. I can't take you seriously. Let's follow your logic. "society tends to string the fuckers up when they've had enough" OK. Let's get rid of the military then. I mean if we get sick on an invading force then we can all get together when we've decided we've had enough and just get some vigilantes together. That's fucking stupid. I'm sure when your block is overrun with drug dealers you can handle it yourself and a few buddies.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (tPrp3)

261 In the standup comedy realm, there are certain trite jokes that seem to be the standard that every no-good hack comedian uses. It used to be things about your mother-in-law or how you just flew in from Cleveland and your arms are killing you. Now its about things like Tinder or Donald Drumpf!

Within the community of hack comedians, each demographic group has their own cliche jokes. IE every female hack has some lines about her period and whatnot, every black hack has lines about how the police pulled him over because he's black, etc.

I can pretty much write out what most of the "jokes" in that CBS special will be just by understanding leftist groupthink

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (mynhJ)

262 >>Well that explains. Cop saw dude with a gun in the dog's mouth and said "No way in hell I'm letting THAT GUY have all the fun !!!"

Or you could just read the article. According to the report, the guy was choking the dog for some reason and he also put a gun in his own mouth.

Now how would you have dealt with this situation? Would you have just waltzed in unarmed without really having a good handle on what was happening other you were asked to intercede in a domestic situation with an armed man and a dog?

I think I'll wait to get more information before deciding that all cops are dog killing maniacs who only join the force to wield power over people.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (/tuJf)

263 142 Every dog is a cuddly little furball who would never, ever bit anyone,
according to its owners. Just like every aspiring rapper who gets shot
was just innocently walking down the street, according to his mom.



I work in other people's houses, which means I meet their dogs.
After a couple years and a couple bad experiences I tend to be pretty
skeptical about what people say about their canids. I now treat every
dog as a potential threat until proven otherwise.


I too work in people's homes, and have come to the same conclusion having been mauled twice (once by a pack of chihuahuas) with the owners watching their little "fur people". If I were a cop going into who-knows what the situation was (darkened cramped entryway, bedroom?!?), who called, if there was a gun present, and you're suddenly faced with having to fight off a dog while somebody decides to shoot you...

That's a hell of a lot different than a postman who's probably had a few years to sum up the dogs on his route, and has a bit of time to respond with some pepper spray without worrying about Mr. Felton on the front porch suddenly deciding to shoot him.

Just sayin'. I'll reserve judgement until some actual facts come out.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (RHEDC)

264 Politicians, weatherpersons, and economist can always be wrong, so why do we listen?
http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/04/economists-say-lot-things-theyre-mostly-wrong/

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (BtQd4)

265 "Lay Down!"

"Roll Over!"

"You so much as wag that tail and I'll shoot!"

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (iCu30)

266 I might also point out that a dog that will bite an intruder is not a bad dog per se. Biting intruders is a good feature in a dog, I think.

But that feature becomes a problem when the intruder has a legitimate reason for being there.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 05, 2018 12:20 PM (bZ7mE)

267 Speaking of shooting the lil girl - Men in Black clip (silly):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRXNNqNfQBs

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 12:21 PM (W+vEI)

268 According to the report, the guy was choking the dog for some reason

Was choking *a* dog. Not specified that it's the dog.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2018 12:22 PM (LjgWA)

269 265 "Lay Down!"

"Roll Over!"

"You so much as wag that tail and I'll shoot!"
Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (iCu30)

Put your left hind leg over your right hind leg! Put your right foreleg over your left foreleg! Now crawl toward me! You make a mistake and YOU. WILL. BE. SHOT!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:22 PM (NWiLs)

270 Of course, Hollywood rampart will be catered and untreated water supplied for the brave avant-gard.

Posted by: Ripley at January 05, 2018 12:22 PM (MxEKc)

271 83
The Wichita Eagle reports an officer attempted to shoot a "mid-size, mixed-breed dog" while responding to a domestic dispute involving a suicidal 33-year-old man.

Then the cop was gonna shoot the suicidal man. I mean, why should the suicidal guy get to shoot?

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 11:56 AM (W+kMI)

And now a guy who was already suicidal has a 9 year old girl getting shot hung around his neck.
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Yes, the situation was a loser all the way around. The unstable dad got more trauma, the girl got hurt, the family collectively got a scare, the Wichita PD got to look like fools, and the officer who fired the shot knows he injured a kid. Yay team.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 12:23 PM (W+kMI)

272 Nood

Posted by: Parker at January 05, 2018 12:23 PM (ZfzDM)

273 @Minnfidel, first, my original argument wasn't for *no* cops, it was for no *dedicated police force*. As in, the citizenry has to step up and be posse / crowd control / whatever for most police functions.

And, yeah, we pay cops to be bullies so we get order and don't have to think about what it takes to get it.

Not too long ago (my grandparents time), a LOT of small-scale stuff was absolutely handled by groups of guys banding together and making sure that someone Got The Message -- from messy drunks to abusive husbands. But taking responsibility for your own community like that fell out of fashion.

Posted by: sunny-dee at January 05, 2018 12:23 PM (QAOZh)

274 Ruh Roh

Posted by: Rooby Doo at January 05, 2018 12:23 PM (gs8be)

275 270 Of course, Hollywood rampart will be catered and untreated water supplied for the brave avant-gard.
Posted by: Ripley at January 05, 2018 12:22 PM (MxEKc)

It'll be avant-giardia.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 05, 2018 12:23 PM (NWiLs)

276 89 @80 Could be worse. Could have asked to be a teacher.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 05, 2018 11:46 AM (H5rtT)

Lol. and if your a guy wanting to work in Elementary Ed. you must be a pervert. I guess I'm guilty then.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 05, 2018 12:23 PM (4CCz5)

277 Cops carry tasers, pepper spray and a gun...

Yet, they only seem to reach for one when dealing with dogs.

That reason is they are allowed to shoot dogs?
No punishment.

And don't fool yourselves. They want to shoot something if their first defense against a dog is to shoot at it.

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 12:23 PM (iCu30)

278 Ees no ma dog.

Posted by: Mel "Si" Blanc at January 05, 2018 12:24 PM (H5rtT)

279 I've had to give vaccinations through the crack of a door - dog wedged behind on one side, and me stabbing at it from the other side, so I don't get attacked.


I walk into a situation where people's lives are in danger, I got no time to cajole and whisper "it's alright, it's alright, good doggie".


And there is not one person who knows me that knows I am not a huge dog-lover.


Be realistic people.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:24 PM (lwiT4)

280 This discussion is a better unmasker than President Trump.

Posted by: nip at January 05, 2018 12:24 PM (ECLaL)

281 >>Of course, Hollywood rampart will be catered and untreated water supplied for the brave avant-gard.



And they'll all be wearing the appropriate colored ribbon, insisting they want to be asked about their cause, not who they're wearing....

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2018 12:24 PM (W+vEI)

282
"You so much as wag that tail and I'll shoot!"
Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (iCu30)



Paws up don't shoot!!

Posted by: Dog Lives Matter at January 05, 2018 12:24 PM (lKyWE)

283 I don't know about the restaya Gun Threaders, but next time I go to shoot somebody, I'm going to load those Ricochet Fragments. They're like magic.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 05, 2018 12:25 PM (H5rtT)

284
Seems to me police training would include making sure unarmed people are not in your line of fire. Life is not a tv show where you just get to shoot wildly down the street or in a home.

I just don't get the story here, if the dog is being choked by the bad guy, the dog is not the threat.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 05, 2018 12:26 PM (r+sAi)

285 shoot. I meant I AM a huge dog-lover. sheesh.


Back to typing sermon notes.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:26 PM (lwiT4)

286 But I'll go ahead and blow up your statement. It's a statement often made by the Police Apologists. Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:06 PM

Yea, you can just fucking stop right there. I am not a police "apologist" as you would like it infer. Nice fucking strawman. Nor have I ever said that they should be immune from anything. I have in fact said they should be held to a higher standard. I am just not naÔve enough to think we should just get rid of cops all together because we don't like the way things currently are. So when you're traveling for work and are 100 miles away and your wife calls and says someone is breaking into the house I am sure you'll explain to her on the need to not call the cops because there's some bad ones or that they just have too much constitutional power right? Yea sure you would sparky.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 12:27 PM (tPrp3)

287 Yeah, that "cop shoots girl in forehead" story is very misleading. I wish cops didn't shoot dogs nearly as often as it seems they do, but that headline is pure deception.

Posted by: redsweater at January 05, 2018 12:27 PM (zFzio)

288 Turkey should have had it's silly ass tossed out of NATO the minute they wouldn't let the 4thID go through it's country when we invaded Iraq. That cause a fucking shit ton of problems that were felt for years. Fuck turkey.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 05, 2018 12:27 PM (aMlLZ)

289 Now how would you have dealt with this situation?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2018 12:19 PM (/tuJf)


Easy.

I'd have minded my own damn business. Because I never wanted to be a cop. And I'm suspicious as hell of anyone that does.

But don't worry Jack. I'm sure Law Enforcement will never mistakenly apply force to You. Because You do All The Right Things, I'm sure. Ten and Two ... Yes, Sir and No, Sir ... right ?

That's what this all comes down to ... there's a strain of you people that just can't imagine things going so south that any of the shit you read about could ever happen to you. And so ... fuck it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:27 PM (upzye)

290 288 Turkey should have had it's silly ass tossed out of NATO the minute they wouldn't let the 4thID go through it's country when we invaded Iraq. That cause a fucking shit ton of problems that were felt for years. Fuck turkey.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 05, 2018 12:27 PM (aMlLZ)

As God is my witness i thought turkeys could fly!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 05, 2018 12:28 PM (4CCz5)

291 Source?
Posted by: Grey Fox


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/texas-cop-shoots-kills-family-dog/

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/ Familys-Dog-Shot-and-Killed-by-Police-Officer-in-Florida-City-334810801.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3283093/Florida-cop-fatally-shoots-beloved-dog-owner.html

http://fox8.com/2015/06/05/off-duty-police-officer-shoots-kills-family-dog-in-ashtabula-county/

http://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/cop-shoots-family-dog/

https://www.thepetitionsite.com/265/775/061/cop-shoots-family-dog-with-no-consequences/

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/judgment-day-after-cop-shoots-family-pet/

Want more? Bing it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2018 12:30 PM (0R8lo)

292 Tom Hanks wants to go the the ramparts-not because BLM burned down Ferguson-not because Antifa is burning down campuses, but because a small group of white supremacists turned up in Charlottesville-and the Mayor apparently did nothing to stop the violence-and because Lizzie Warren got a boo-boo because Trump made a Whoo Hoo Indian joke? Stick to acting Tom. You did a good job in the movie about the pilot over the Hudson.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2018 12:30 PM (8+Ozj)

293 193 From the JackStraw link:

The case will be reviewed by the District Attorney's Office in addition to an internal review to determine if department policies were followed.

I think the problem many of us have is that "shoot the dog first" is in fact department policy.
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That is pretty much it Bandersnatch. The "dangerous dog" protocols need review and a little common sense applied to them. It's not so much "bad cops" as "bad policy" which when adhered to causes more problems than solutions.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 12:31 PM (W+kMI)

294 And irritates me even more when people who are supposedly on "our" side buy into the line "cops just want to go home at night."
Posted by: Blake at January 05, 2018 11:57 AM (WEBkv)

It's called the "Scared Cop" rule. It's their when everything else fails, standby excuse.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 05, 2018 12:31 PM (R5lpX)

295 This discussion is a better unmasker than President Trump.
Posted by: nip at January 05, 2018 12:24 PM (ECLaL)


I've always said ... Democrats and Republicans differ on the Ends. The Means ... not so much.

There's a certain brand of Republican that loves the notion of Police Force being used against "those people". The possibility of Police Force being used against themselves never crosses their minds.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:31 PM (upzye)

296 "We want compensation for the plagues that were inflicted upon [us] as a result of the curses that the Jews' ancient forefathers [cast] upon our ancient forefathers, who did not deserve to pay for the mistake that Egypt's ruler at the time, Pharaoh, committed," the cranky journalist wrote, according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

... I wonder who the EPA can sue over the Grand Crayon

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at January 05, 2018 12:03 PM (e8kgV)


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Are you sure that's not parody? Sounds like parody to me. Do Muslims believe the account given in Exodus? To be frank, it sounds like Jewish people on this site who refute the notion of reparations with the reductio: "Maybe I should sue Egypt for reparations for making my ancestors build the pyramids". Maybe it's a secretly secular Muslim trying to give a subconscious clue to his fellow Muslims.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 05, 2018 12:33 PM (/qEW2)

297 There's a certain brand of Republican that loves the notion of Police Force being used against "those people".
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Oh yeah. Raises hand. That's me all right. Grammie the Brownshirt.


Please.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:33 PM (lwiT4)

298 And don't fool yourselves. They want to shoot something if their first defense against a dog is to shoot at it.

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 12:23 PM (iCu30)


You don't know what you're talking about. Having actually had guys I've worked with being shot and murdered gives me a different perspective.

Lot's of "cop hate" in this thread, so I'm out.

P.S. The dog I shot was a pit-bull chasing kids.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 05, 2018 12:34 PM (YQ4mh)

299 Sounds like the Wichita Police are following the "Stop! [BANG] Or I'll Shoot!!!" school of law enforcement. I guess we should be glad this cop didn't throw down a pocket pistol next to the 9 year old and say he had to shoot her in self defense.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2018 12:35 PM (k1TUh)

300 >>>>
178 General question. Do you think law enforcement is held more
accountable now and less corrupt than it was 50 years ago or not?

==========

No, I do not think it has changed too much, or otherwise Dirty Harry
and Serpico would never had been a thing. In general, police forces are
held to a higher standard of accountability than 100 years ago. We just
know more about the bad actors and the mistakes than we did before 24/7
news and the Internet. Read about Theodore Roosevelt's tenure as NYPD
Police Commissioner to see that the need to periodically clean up the
police force is a necessity for any city government.
.
.
.Police in general are held to a much higher standard that they were just a few years ago. Now that every single person is walking around with what amounts to a mobile TV studio we are seeing things that we would have never seen even a decade ago. Add body cameras into that mix and Cops are being fired at a record pace compared to just 10-15 years ago.

Cops come in all kinds, good, bad and in between. The bad ones slowly get weeded out but it does take a long time, longer if they have a strong union.

I know many cops and most I would trust with my life, a few I wouldn't even loan $5 bucks to. But overall they are OK, the problem is we rarely see the good that they do, virtually everything we see is negative because that is what sells.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2018 12:35 PM (+Dllb)

301 I am all for diversity if it means the next Charlies Angels has a ginger

Posted by: Downcast at January 05, 2018 12:35 PM (AItFc)

302 There's a certain brand of Republican that loves the notion of Police Force being used against "those people". The possibility of Police Force being used against themselves never crosses their minds.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:31 PM

Who the fuck said it was a zero sum game? Race bait much? You know, there's some bad doctors too that abuse their position. Better not go to the doctor. Better off being paranoid of every profession out there. You can just heal yourself! Among other things.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 12:36 PM (tPrp3)

303 That's what this all comes down to ... there's a strain of you people that just can't imagine things going so south that any of the shit you read about could ever happen to you. And so ... fuck it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:27 PM (upzye)


When I was around 10 years old I was riding my bicycle past my grammer school. Now the school was old style early 1900's brick 3 floor job, very small grounds with a front door about 20 feet off the curb, and it was literally smack dab in the center of our neighborhood. My friends houses literally surrounded it, and I lived around the corner. Kids would always be using the 2 basketball hoops, or hitting tennis balls off the side of the building, etc etc, and nobody ever cared. I was riding past it coming home from a friend, and for some reason I stopped for a second. Some asshole cop pulls up, gets out of his car, and whacks me in the shoulder with a big ass flashlight and asks "you want your head busted open?"

Yeah, fuck cops. I learned that early.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 05, 2018 12:36 PM (aMlLZ)

304 Oh yeah. Raises hand. That's me all right. Grammie the Brownshirt.

Please.
Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:33 PM (lwiT4)


I have no idea if you are or ain't, grammie. All I know is you've got an in-law vested with that power in whom you trust implicitly.

Which is exactly part of the problem. That guy is part of an Extra-Constitutional Class. I don't care how swell a guy he is. He's got too much power. Too much protection.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:36 PM (upzye)

305 Technically what hit the girl was a richochet, but I agree that a cop's first action shouldn't be to shoot the dog unless there is reasonable reason to believe the dog is going to attack. What seems to be the case way too many cases is shoot first, ask questions later. If a dogs merely barks at a cop he can shoot it? Really? If that's the case my neighbors' dogs are in deep pucky if a cop every stops by for any reason.



Posted by: jim at January 05, 2018 12:37 PM (gjGvH)

306 I have no idea if you are or ain't, grammie.
==========================


Seriously? You don't know whether or not I'm a Nazi?


I'm out.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:38 PM (lwiT4)

307 I think we need a new thread-one in which people aren't insulting people they don't know, IRL -but yet have been posting with for years-because they have a difference of opinion on cops.

Hey, let's go back to the "War of Northern Aggression" War Between the States. Civil War Thread. Much more civil

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2018 12:39 PM (8+Ozj)

308 and because Lizzie Warren got a boo-boo because Trump made a Whoo Hoo Indian joke? Stick to acting Tom. You did a good job in the movie about the pilot over the Hudson.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2018 12:30 PM (8+Ozj)


========

Did you catch the lie that Tom Hanks slipped in there? Trump didn't tell a joke about Pocahontas. He told a joke about a fraudster who was trying to benefit herself at the expense of those in Trump's audience.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 05, 2018 12:39 PM (/qEW2)

309 You don't know what you're talking about. Having actually had guys I've worked with being shot and murdered gives me a different perspective.

Lot's of "cop hate" in this thread, so I'm out.

P.S. The dog I shot was a pit-bull chasing kids.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 05, 2018 12:34 PM

That's dumb! All someone would have had to do was get their buddies together, called them, had them drive over, find the dog and take care of it themselves! They don't need you fascists just shooting shit willy nilly. Just ask the experts who are so sure you joined the force to just kill shit. Yea, that was sarcasm for the mouth breathers.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 12:39 PM (tPrp3)

310 Who the fuck said it was a zero sum game? Race bait much? You know, there's some bad doctors too that abuse their position. Better not go to the doctor. Better off being paranoid of every profession out there. You can just heal yourself! Among other things.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 12:36 PM (tPrp3)


When Doctors start kicking down doors, insisting on treating your condition, I'll worry about Militarized Thug Doctors. Until then ... I just avoid 'em as much as I can.

Now come on ... tell us. Who's the cop in your family ? Close friend, maybe ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:39 PM (upzye)

311 @29 - great comment, and one that any responsible gun owner had better either agree with, or they should reconsider owning firearms.

There is a vein in "conservative" thought that is every bit as pernicious as the ultra left. People who blindly respect police are just as blind as those who blindly follow Hillary or any other "orthodoxy" drummed up by the loonie left.

Rebel flags and statues, blind allegiance to the police, jingoism... yeah, we have our own issues to deal with.

Posted by: RobM1981 at January 05, 2018 12:39 PM (dFemX)

312 I think NATO should have disbanded when the Warsaw Pact did. It's
another illustration of how institutions take on a life of their own
even after their reason for existence no longer applies.


I seam to recall something along the lines of "If we disband NATO, we can pay off the National Debt within a decade." Or words to that effect.

Posted by: Paladin at January 05, 2018 12:39 PM (lP8dE)

313 Seriously? You don't know whether or not I'm a Nazi?

I'm out.
Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:38 PM (lwiT4)


How in the hell would I ? All I know is you got a white couch.

You know who else had a white couch ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:40 PM (upzye)

314 Seriously? You don't know whether or not I'm a Nazi?


I'm out.
Posted by: grammie winger - at January 05, 2018 12:38 PM

Unbelievable Grammie. Pay it no mind.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 12:40 PM (tPrp3)

315 I am generally all pro-cop, but if you are a policeman and shoot a kid, a dog, an innocent bystander, or if you unload your weapon and didnt put at least 1 hole in the actual perp, then you need the Barney Fife solution. 1 bullet and you have to call the sheriff for permission to load it.

Posted by: Michael Lee Aday at January 05, 2018 12:42 PM (AItFc)

316
One of the best shots of my LEO career was a killing a dog trying to
bite me. Cleared leather and put one bullet in its forehead as the dog
was leaping at me.
=====

Yes, that is proper. Where I have a problem is where the shoot is a crated dog. Sheriffs came by my house (wrong address) and the youngest kidlet and the dog (rottweiler of all breeds) went into the crate. Called the local cops and said 'who are these people and what do they want' and was told to call the 911 to Sheriffs. We were fortunate that none of the 10+ Sheriffs surrounding the house were aggressive. I wouldn't pay for an aggressive dog, nor would I pay for an aggressive cop.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 05, 2018 12:42 PM (MIKMs)

317 >>>>>When Doctors start kicking down doors, insisting on
treating your condition, I'll worry about Militarized Thug Doctors.
Until then ... I just avoid 'em as much as I can.



Now come on ... tell us. Who's the cop in your family ? Close friend, maybe ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:39 PM (upzye)
...someone needs a time out.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2018 12:44 PM (+Dllb)

318 236 Thanks for the article, man. It downplays the events, but confirms my take on the case that the police in question reacted with too much force again. Shooting the family pet that is acting in home/family defense mode is too much force. The girl who caught the ricochet was probably running after the dog trying to get it to stop. Bad call, and the officer should get a reprimand for it, although having to live knowing he harmed a kid will hurt him more than anything administrative.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 12:10 PM (W+kMI)

You don't know that. What if he truly doesn't give a fuck?
===
The sort of human trash who could see a little girl get injured and not give a fuck are generally not police material. Just sayin'. This was not an act of malice, it was an act of poor judgement and poor policy. Yeah, the cop is gonna feel bad about the kid getting hurt, and if he is a little slow about getting the guilt trip he is gonna get it served to him at the precinct when he has to submit his report to an unhappy superior.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 05, 2018 12:44 PM (W+kMI)

319 Now come on ... tell us. Who's the cop in your family ? Close friend, maybe ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:39 PM

None. I just have the intelligence to understand that public safety is one of the actual functrions of government and it should be done at a high standard. And that every profession has good and bad members. Maybe we should get rid of every profession because people abuse their powers. Are you done race baiting and calling other commenters Nazi's you fuckweasel? Yea I am sure that when your wife or daughter calls and your 100 miles from home and 3 guys are busting into your house you'll just call your vigilante buddies.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 12:45 PM (tPrp3)

320 Who says Donks can't be funny?

Colorado Senate Dems
@COSenDem
We'll give Jeff Sessions our legal pot when he pries it from our warm, extremely interesting to look at hands.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 05, 2018 12:46 PM (p4vgJ)

321 19 of the 21 CBS "Diversity Comics" are from deep blue states or cities.

Some diversity.

Posted by: mercenary13 at January 05, 2018 12:50 PM (o+T34)

322 Minnfidel ...

Don't know how many times how many of us have to tell you the proposed solution is not the elimination of police, but the reduction in the power wielded by police.

"Every other profession" doesn't get to force themselves into our homes without permission. "Every other profession" can't seize our property. "Every other profession" can't shoot our dogs, children, or aussie spouses.

So yeah ... some of us are quite a bit less enthusiastic about the current state of Policing than you.

I guess we're all just fuckweasels. Or maybe a herd of fuckweasi. A gaggle, perhaps.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:51 PM (upzye)

323 .Police in general are held to a much higher
standard that they were just a few years ago. Now that every single
person is walking around with what amounts to a mobile TV studio we are
seeing things that we would have never seen even a decade ago. Add body
cameras into that mix and Cops are being fired at a record pace compared
to just 10-15 years ago.

Cops come in all kinds, good, bad and
in between. The bad ones slowly get weeded out but it does take a long
time, longer if they have a strong union.

I know many cops and
most I would trust with my life, a few I wouldn't even loan $5 bucks to.
But overall they are OK, the problem is we rarely see the good that
they do, virtually everything we see is negative because that is what
sells.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2018 12:35 PM (+Dllb)

There is no evidence that bad cops get weeded out and plenty of evidence that they don't.Instead, bad cops are protected by both the system and their fellow cops from suffering any consequences for their jackbootiness.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 05, 2018 12:52 PM (rAIG/)

324 I generally support cops, I have them in the family, and some of my friends were cops, but I hear the stories they tell. I can go on and on about the auto repair dude who was using his tow business as a front for stealing and retagging cars, and how the cops didn't mess with him because they got parts for their cars for free.

or the biggest asshole on our local force got arrested for dealing cocaine.

or the cops in seaside planting drugs on people they pulled over that go so bad the FBI had to do a sting operation to nail them..and they did.

I can do this all day. Cops have a tough job, but many are corrupt, and got too much power. The cops in the next town over are so bad that most people just avoid driving though it. They pulled my friend over in a snow storm one night, because the snow on his windshield was covering the inspection sticker, you know, the area the wipers don't clean. Besides corrupt, some are just assholes. It sucks for the good cops, but they better look around, because their buddies might be giving them the bad rap.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 05, 2018 12:53 PM (aMlLZ)

325 They pulled my friend over in a snow storm one night, because the snow on his windshield was covering the inspection sticker, you know, the area the wipers don't clean.

Too bad. The presence of an inspection sticker is vital to public safety ... and therefore, must be enforced to the highest standards.

Ten and Two. Yes, Sir and No, Sir. Don't forget it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:55 PM (upzye)

326 Public safety is one of the actual functions of government. Yet are any police forces mentioned in the Constitution, or any other founding documents or debates? And you know why not?

It's time to stop pretending that there have been blue-uniformed cops on the corner since Time Immoral. It's a brand new invention.

I've met some Nazis. The real ones, not these shave-tail jocularities.
Courtly, thoughtful, unfailingly polite. You have to ask their opinions.
Like people who have lost a war, a country, half their population, were bombed into the stone age, and then the Russians came. Not much of an insult.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 05, 2018 12:57 PM (H5rtT)

327 Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 12:51 PM

You're right smartest guy in the room. You threw out more strawmen, you didn't answer any direct questions and insulted people like Grammie etc. So yea, I'm done with you child.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 12:58 PM (tPrp3)

328 So you shot the pitbull that was chasing kids as it lunged at you. Got it.

Posted by: nip at January 05, 2018 01:01 PM (ECLaL)

329 I do wonder about accountability. I think we all agree that we should wait for the facts to come in, that police face extreme risks and must act accordingly. But one also needs to face the question "what event(s) would be necessary to cause you to become concerned that there's a lack of accountability in many precincts?" The MN slaying and the killing of that druggie who was forced to lie on the ground and slither towards the cop have got me worried if nothing comes of it. If it's as bad as people think, they should face felony charges.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 05, 2018 01:04 PM (/qEW2)

330 While every situation like this needs to be assessed by the facts of the case, the issue I have with the police stems from the fact that they have evolved from Peace Officers to Law Enforcement Officers. It is a major shift in mindset, that I don't believe is a positive move.

Posted by: Aghast at January 05, 2018 01:05 PM (XwTN8)

331 Strawmen ... short-hand for "I can't really counter that, so I declare it Out Of Bounds."

Democrats ain't the only ones to desire the power to choose what can and can't be said.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 01:06 PM (upzye)

332 So you shot the pitbull that was chasing kids as it lunged at you. Got it.
Posted by: nip at January 05, 2018 01:01 PM (ECLaL)


In all fairness ... a pitbull that can go two directions at once really does need to be put down.

Shoot Status ... Justified.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 01:08 PM (upzye)

333 Strawmen ... short-hand for "I can't really counter that, so I declare it Out Of Bounds."

Democrats ain't the only ones to desire the power to choose what can and can't be said.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 01:06 PM

Translation. I still won't answer any questions directly and then I'll use the Nazi card. Yea, I want the power to choose what can and can't be said, like a NAZI! That's the ticket! Yet here you are. I actually fully advocate you showing everyone what a dumbass you really are, it makes it easy and entertaining. Now if you'll excuse me I have to go iron my brown shirt, me and Grammie Winger are guest speaking tonight.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 01:13 PM (tPrp3)

334 In all fairness ... a pitbull that can go two directions at once really does need to be put down.


Hater.

Posted by: Schroedinger's Pit Bull at January 05, 2018 01:14 PM (LjgWA)

335 >>You don't know what you're talking about. Having actually had guys I've worked with being shot and murdered gives me a different perspective.



Your friends were shot and killed by dogs?

Amazing.

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 01:14 PM (iCu30)

336 Your friends were shot and killed by dogs?

Amazing.

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 01:14 PM (iCu30)


In that particular case ... I could see greasing any canine on site.

Shoot Status ... Justified.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 01:20 PM (upzye)

337 You know ... Minnfidel ... I didn't call anybody a Nazi.

It's true ... Grammie called herself a Nazi - to make a point that she's anything but a Nazi. I just chose to say that I didn't know if she was or not ... even though we all know Grammie isn't a Nazi.

See how that works ?

No - of course you don't - because you're in such a blind rage at this point that you can't even follow sentences.

Please ... carry on.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 01:22 PM (upzye)

338 The CBS Diversity show reminds me of Tucker's guest last night, who pointed out to him that there were manymany talented AfAm men who could do his job. Tucker had no response. Because, tbh, what can you say.

Posted by: Shopgirl: #KStateWonTheirs at January 05, 2018 02:11 PM (Ch2LU)

339 "Interesting" things coming out of the woodwork in this thread.

"I can't trust anyone who would want to be a cop" "Becoming a cop is becoming a Nazi"

Sounds exactly like the what retarded leftists said about our soldiers.

"One fraction of one percent of cops did a bad thing, all of them are just the worst, they're all evil murderous thugs"

Again the same talking point of retarded leftists about our soldiers.

There is no evidence that the problems apply to every member of the profession. If any group of them is to blame it's the unions that protect the worst members, you know the exact thing that is common to pretty much every unionized profession. Putting up maximum resistance to the worst cases means the average and slightly below average are always left alone. Are all teachers evil because a few of them conduct themselves terribly? Do all teachers have tainted motives for becoming teachers because some of their peers commit crimes?

Posted by: Sjg at January 05, 2018 02:15 PM (gDSJf)

340 I have thought about this and you guys are right. Thank you for helping me see.

Posted by: nip at January 05, 2018 02:15 PM (ECLaL)

341 I call BS on the "cop shot girl in forehead" story.
He did NOT *shoot* her in the head. He missed the dog, and a fragment ricocheted into her forehead. There's a HUGE difference there (piece of bullet, traveling at reduced speed vs. entire bullet traveling at full speed).

I'm not a fan of policemen shooting dogs, either (they really should be better trained in most instances), but the story is NOT what the headline makes it out to be.
IOW, fake news.

Posted by: GWB at January 05, 2018 02:47 PM (zhQGz)

342 It's time to stop pretending that there have been
blue-uniformed cops on the corner since Time Immoral. It's a brand new
invention.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 05, 2018 12:57 PM (H5rtT)

About the first quarter of the 19th century. Before that, constabulary and sheriffs were law enforcement sorts, but mostly it was done in the cities by the army. Hence, one of two reasons for the posse comitatus limitations.

The Peelian Principles are a good thing to look at if you want to examine how a police force is doing, imo.

Posted by: GWB at January 05, 2018 02:56 PM (zhQGz)

343 Some people are saying that the entire book may be satire. That the whole thing is a masterful trolling of the left and their thirst for fake news.


Personally I have zero idea, but I like the prospect. If it isn't true, someone should get on a project like it ASAP.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at January 05, 2018 02:58 PM (af5xa)

344 I don't know of anyone that excuses their actions no
matter what. It's a strawman I think. ... they would be just as
bad as those who think that every shooting is a cop who is dirty.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 05, 2018 11:42 AM (tPrp3)

Yes, there are. And yes, they are just as troublesome as the anti-cop absolutists.

Posted by: GWB at January 05, 2018 03:25 PM (zhQGz)

345 "I can't trust anyone who would want to be a cop" "Becoming a cop is becoming a Nazi"

All the Nazi chatter ? That was Minnfidel.

Don't trust a cop ? Yeah ... that's me. Why in the Hell would I choose to be around ANYONE who retains the right to arrest me, 24/7/365, while enjoying Legal Immunity for his actions ? Anyone who chooses to be able to project force upon me, while be protected from me projecting force upon them ?

I don't know why any of you would want to be around such ... unless you're convinced that force will never be used on you. I can only assume people who love Pit Bulls feel the same way.

I wouldn't let a Pit Bull in my house.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 04:04 PM (heOND)

346 You and your buddies at the fire department were arsonists at heart, therefore every police officer obviously wants to be Judge Dredd.

You've let your animosity toward the badge convince yourself that the police are no longer human. That's no different than ravings by the rabid leftists have about our armed forces: they all must've signed up wanting to kill brown people. It's not a logical argument, it's a paranoid delusion.

CBD's original post complained about the marxists wanting to alienate and dehumanize entire swaths of people to sow division. Two paragraphs later it's a fake, inflammatory headline meant to do the same exact thing and quite a few people here just ate it right up.

Posted by: Sjg at January 05, 2018 04:56 PM (gDSJf)

347 Two paragraphs later it's a fake, inflammatory
headline meant to do the same exact thing and quite a few people here
just ate it right up.

Posted by: Sjg at January 05, 2018 04:56 PM (gDSJf)

The cop shot the kid while responding to a suicide 911. Those are the facts. That he wasn't aware of the possibility of ricochet makes it even worse.

And I am on record as condemning police in America. I have stated that the "thin blue line" makes them all complicit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2018 05:46 PM (wYseH)

348 You've let your animosity toward the badge convince yourself that the police are no longer human.

I mistrust them EXACTLY because they are human. The track record of humans entrusted with power over their neighbors is clear.

You, however, speak as if they've somehow transcended the failings of human nature.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 05, 2018 06:27 PM (fiGNd)

349 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2018 05:46 PM (wYseH)

That does not change the fact that headline was inflamatory BS and you know it. A piece of the bullet ricocheted and struck her face, she was treated and released from the hospital. The headline is "shoots 9 year old girl in the forehead". Those are completely different things. Trying to pass of what happened like the girl was shot in the face by some half-cocked cop and then using it to slime all other cops even though they weren't at all related to that incident is intellectually dishonest.

That whole site is full of crap like that, it's incredibly obvious that is was a hackneyed hit peice like everything else they post.

You railed against marxist identity politics and two paragraphs later used an intentionally inflammatory headline to do the exact same thing. Whitey just got changed to Pigs in Blue.

Kaeperdick would be proud.

Posted by: Sjg at January 05, 2018 06:52 PM (gDSJf)

350 CBD,

If you'd like to have a civil discussion with someone you believe is complicit, I'd be happy to oblige.

Posted by: Xenophon at January 05, 2018 07:37 PM (dh/GA)

351 *fap fap fap fap fap fap*

Fuck the cops!

*fap fap fap fap fap fap*

Posted by: Copp Hater Dogg at January 06, 2018 12:01 AM (5Isv3)

352 And I am on record as condemning police in America. I have stated that the "thin blue line" makes them all complicit.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

.....

Asshole.

Posted by: Copp Hater Dogg at January 06, 2018 12:02 AM (5Isv3)

353 Ohh the cops wrote me a ticket and now I have a stick up my ass.

We're ALL Palestinians now.

Posted by: Copp Hating Dildo at January 06, 2018 12:12 AM (HH8q6)

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