This Is CNN

Oh, they did cover the Iran rallies.

The pro-government Iran rallies, I mean.



The New York Times chooses to pretend this is just about "economic woes," rather than a direct challenge to the clerical tyranny itself...



A bit on this guy's reportage:



But you should trust him. He is an #Expert, and he's right in the thick of the action. If by "action" you mean "shopping opportunities on the Ginza strip in Japan."



This "scattered protests" and "economic woes" theory overlooks chants of "Death to Khamenei" and "Death to Rouhani." And propaganda posters of Khamenei being taken down:





CNN and the New York Times (and the AP, and all the rest) are eager conspirators in Obama's Echo Chamber, and they will not let our "Partner in Peace," the rabid terrorist Ayatollahs of Iran, go down without giving their level best to prop them up.



Update: CNN is now covering the story.

And the story is: It's Trump's fault.



Posted by: Ace at 02:01 PM




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1 ace on a roll

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 01:58 PM (6gGph)

2 How long until the UN votes to condemn Israel?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)

3 People everywhere just wanna be free......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 30, 2017 02:02 PM (EoRCO)

4 Eh, Japan, Iran....they're both tiny little people who talk funny and you can't get a decent bagel in either one.

Posted by: NYT -world Problems. at December 30, 2017 02:02 PM (oVJmc)

5 Yeah, I suppose anti-government protests are "rare" in a fundamentalist police state.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 02:02 PM (sdi6R)

6 So, the CNN correspondent said this:

She continued, "A lot of nations and their populations, no matter how they feel about their governments in particular, do perceive the United States as not really having a moral leg to stand on."

I can't fathom how that is considered to be legitimate "reporting." I don't know what to call it.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:03 PM (6gGph)

7 If Iran falls under Trump, imagine the outrage of the Left.

It'd be like their hate for Reagan for destroying the Soviets.

Posted by: NYT -world Problems. at December 30, 2017 02:03 PM (oVJmc)

8 >>I can't fathom how that is considered to be legitimate "reporting." I don't know what to call it.

I think the technical term is "bullshit".

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:04 PM (/tuJf)

9 I am sick and tired of our supposedly elite, know-it-all, "I'm better than the scum in Flyover Country," bozos in NYC, DC, and Hollywood worrying what the rest of the world thinks of the USA.

Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2017 02:04 PM (AMIL/)

10 I whole heartedly support the protesters in Iran! We must help them to overthrow the mullahs!

Wait, what? Trump supports the protesters?

It is beyond stupid to support the overthrow of the Iranian government! This rebellion must be opposed!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at December 30, 2017 02:04 PM (gC2IV)

11 The Left hates theocracies. Selectively.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2017 02:05 PM (oVJmc)

12 Someone in one of yesterday's threads call it. They said that the MFM wouldn't cover Iranian demonstrations until they could figure out a way to blame Trump.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:06 PM (T71PA)

13 >>>12 Someone in one of yesterday's threads call it. They said that the MFM wouldn't cover Iranian demonstrations until they could figure out a way to blame Trump.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:06 PM (T71PA)

O.k., but their logic is somewhat strained.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:07 PM (6gGph)

14 #MakeIranGreatAgain

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2017 02:07 PM (oVJmc)

15
All they need is the soothing balm of Cairo speech!

Available now at your local We B Theocrats outlet.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2017 02:07 PM (pNxlR)

16 It also seems the NYT is now pushing a bold new theory of how the Russia collusion investigation got started.

It's hard to believe anyone takes these people seriously.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:08 PM (/tuJf)

17 O.k., but their logic is somewhat strained.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:07 PM (6gGph)

It usually is.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:08 PM (T71PA)

18 So Erdbrink's gone native mullah.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 02:08 PM (NWiLs)

19 Top.Men.

Posted by: Tom Nichols at December 30, 2017 02:09 PM (gSwpy)

20 Sources Say Anti Pro Government Rallies In Iran Orchestrated By Trump To Divert Attention From Russia Collusion, White Truck, Fish Food, Tree Cutting Scandals

Posted by: This...is CNN at December 30, 2017 02:09 PM (O5Q3r)

21 oooookay...so it's Trump's fault the iranian people want to be free of the despots. maybe it's more like they think he'll help them, instead of letting them be slaughtered like tfg did.

Let's pray this is a successful revolution. It will save countless lives in the long run if it is.

Have we started a pool yet about when carter is going to pop off about how we shouldn't interfere?

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 02:09 PM (hscyr)

22 heh. What sort of journalist uses "woe" in his dispatches from the front-line trenches?

Posted by: Fritz at December 30, 2017 02:09 PM (A1FgP)

23 Who ya gonna trust: The Mullahs or a bunch of the Iranian version of our American Deplorables?

Let me be clear: The choice is a no-brainer, and I made it several years ago (with a little help from Valerie J, of course).

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 30, 2017 02:10 PM (AMIL/)

24 The CNN correspondent is in Istanbul. Maybe she could be sent to Iran.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:10 PM (6gGph)

25 11 The Left hates theocracies. Selectively.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2017 02:05 PM (oVJmc)



But but but The Handmaid's Tale!!!11!!!

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 02:10 PM (sdi6R)

26 >>>21 oooookay...so it's Trump's fault the iranian people want to be free of the despots. maybe it's more like they think he'll help them, instead of letting them be slaughtered like tfg did.
Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 02:09 PM (hscyr)

But wait this reeks of logic.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:12 PM (6gGph)

27 CNN is now reporting that the protests are strictly over food and gas prices.

Sure thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)

28
"A lot of nations and their populations, no matter how they feel about their governments in particular, do perceive the United States as not really having a moral leg to stand on."


Concern status

[ ] Totes

[X] None at all

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2017 02:13 PM (pNxlR)

29 Antifa demonstrating over economic woes

Wait, what ?

Cut !

Posted by: CNN at December 30, 2017 02:13 PM (gSwpy)

30 Top.Men.

Posted by: Tom Nichols at December 30, 2017 02:09 PM (gSwpy)

Mr Nichols, this should make you feel better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhrPMiwgkU

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:13 PM (T71PA)

31 The Islamist military dictators of Iran regularly torture, rape, jail and murder their own citizens...but what about that Trump!

You really can't parody these vacuous moral retards anymore. But I'm gonna do it anyway.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 30, 2017 02:13 PM (Ndje9)

32 The weird beard Mullah Humpers wear some funky ass shit.

I wonder if they shop at the same store as the FAB....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 30, 2017 02:13 PM (EoRCO)

33 24 The CNN correspondent is in Istanbul. Maybe she could be sent to Iran.
Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:10 PM (6gGph)

+++

She's wearing the patterned requisite neck-scarf, so she's over there "somewhere" - come-on.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 30, 2017 02:14 PM (tcwn1)

34 Why, it's almost as if Obama was wrong about every-fucking-thing. Hmmm.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 02:14 PM (gC2IV)

35 21 oooookay...so it's Trump's fault the iranian people want to be free of the despots. maybe it's more like they think he'll help them, instead of letting them be slaughtered like tfg did.
Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 02:09 PM (hscyr)


Why, it's almost as if they went underground after 2009 and waited Obama out.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 02:14 PM (sdi6R)

36 Caliphate News Network strikes again.

Posted by: JEM at December 30, 2017 02:14 PM (0XvG0)

37 34 Why, it's almost as if Obama was wrong about every-fucking-thing. Hmmm.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 02:14 PM (gC2IV)

But...but...this cannot be. He's the chocolate messiah dammit!

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 02:15 PM (hscyr)

38 Valerie! More mullah money, stat!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 30, 2017 02:15 PM (NWiLs)

39 As IowaHawk said they are covering this story with a pillow until it no longer moves.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 30, 2017 02:15 PM (dKiJG)

40 Can any group be more traitorous and dishonest than CNN?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 30, 2017 02:15 PM (QkPts)

41 27 CNN is now reporting that the protests are strictly over food and gas prices.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)


To be fair, those white trucks are real gas hogs.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 02:16 PM (sdi6R)

42 Our moral leg is the US national interest.

For the first time since probably St Ronald.

Posted by: JEM at December 30, 2017 02:16 PM (0XvG0)

43 Real reporters would push Pelousi and Schemer to publicly support the Iranian demonstrators!

Do the Democrats prefer an Islamic theocratic despot to a popular democracy?

Get them in front of a microphone.


Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 30, 2017 02:16 PM (Po6Jc)

44 CNN sucked up to Saddam as well.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 30, 2017 02:16 PM (rnAwa)

45 40 Can any group be more traitorous and dishonest than CNN?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 30, 2017 02:15 PM (QkPts)

Hold our beer

Posted by: Podesta Group at December 30, 2017 02:17 PM (gSwpy)

46 Are we gonna go back to nation building to make the world safe for the Saudi princes???

Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:17 PM (9TR2V)

47 A lot of nations and their populations, no matter how they feel about their governments in particular, do perceive the United States as not really having a moral leg to stand on.

---------

I'm sure she's done extensive research on these nations and their populations. Or she just pulled it out of her ass. Either or.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 02:17 PM (gC2IV)

48
And from where do you think Fake News is getting their Guidance & Talking Points on Iran?


From Deep State!

This has obama's State Department's stink all over it!

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 30, 2017 02:18 PM (H0qMa)

49 MAGAns don't care what the World thinks.

Posted by: kallisto at December 30, 2017 02:18 PM (AJwk0)

50 Are we gonna go back to nation building to make the world safe for the Saudi princes???
Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:17 PM (9TR2V)

Ummmmmmm....No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 30, 2017 02:18 PM (EoRCO)

51 That Trump will not send the Iranian government pallets full of money show how truly out of touch he really is with the peoples of the world.
Miss me yet? Happy Kwanzaa!

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at December 30, 2017 02:19 PM (O5Q3r)

52 Can any group be more traitorous and dishonest than CNN?

We've got them on the dishonesty, andvremember, it's not treason if they're not US persons.

Posted by: Congressional Black Caucus at December 30, 2017 02:19 PM (0XvG0)

53 Are we gonna go back to nation building to make the world safe for the Saudi princes???

Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:17 PM (9TR2V)

That's a mighty big jump to a conclusion.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:19 PM (T71PA)

54
Really, that's what I think is going on here.

Fake News is contacting their subversives inside the State Dept asking them what's going in Iran.

State Dept shadow-govt moles are providing Fake News with this pro-iranian govt BULLSHIT.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 30, 2017 02:19 PM (H0qMa)

55
And this is why Rex Tillerson sucks dicks by the bagful.

Where is he? Where is HIS State Dept on this??

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 30, 2017 02:20 PM (H0qMa)

56 52
Can any group be more traitorous and dishonest than CNN?



We've got them on the dishonesty, andvremember, it's not treason if they're not US persons.

Posted by: Congressional Black Caucus


And boy howdy do we rule on airplanes.

Posted by: CBC at December 30, 2017 02:20 PM (LAe3v)

57 If Kharj Is were burning, gas prices in Iran would be higher, just saying ...

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:20 PM (In2qM)

58
Instead, State is letting the president twist in the wind with mere tweets about what's happening.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 30, 2017 02:21 PM (H0qMa)

59 #MakeIranGreatAgain.

MIGA

Posted by: redenzo at December 30, 2017 02:21 PM (14qvS)

60 God keep the young rebels. It's so odd that so many of our own youth want nothing more than to be slaves.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 02:22 PM (WbIyz)

61 Breaking News
CNN has gotten the license plate of the White Truck that is blocking our view.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 30, 2017 02:22 PM (dKiJG)

62 >>State Dept shadow-govt moles are providing Fake News with this pro-iranian govt BULLSHIT.

What makes you think they need help from anyone to create their own narrative? They are as big a part of the Deep State and the bureaucrats burrowed into the government.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:22 PM (/tuJf)

63 OT, but I was very impressed with this column, describing how those whose egos aren't so fragile have come to grudgingly, but emphatically, give Trump his due. Also, it uses the word jejune, and that's always worth the time.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:23 PM (LAe3v)

64
Iran tried o put a lid on this earlier this week by lifting the mandatory arrests on unproperly dressed women.

Economic woes, my ass.

This is all about Iran's Cruel Islamic Authoritarianism.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 30, 2017 02:23 PM (H0qMa)

65 and now the link
https://amgreatness.com/2017/12/29/taking-trump-seriously/

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:23 PM (LAe3v)

66 I blame Boeing

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:24 PM (In2qM)

67 Nothing good can happen on Trump's watch,it might make him look good.Therefore it is not happening .

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2017 02:24 PM (LiyEm)

68 Let's see, ISIS is destroyed, all sorts of reforms from SA, and iranian mullahs shitting their pants. I'm starting to think this Trump fella might just know what he's doing.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 02:24 PM (gC2IV)

69 >>>
Caliphate News Network strikes again.<<<

Clown Nose News

https://youtu.be/1f7XwCsx4fs

Posted by: Fritz at December 30, 2017 02:24 PM (A1FgP)

70 >>>57 If Kharj Is were burning, gas prices in Iran would be higher, just saying ...
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:20 PM (In2qM)

I'm sorry, I'm not following this. Could you elaborate?

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:24 PM (6gGph)

71 MAGAns think the World is populated by Euroweenie manginas whose consorts are sexually frustrated. The she bitches never anticipated their strident Grrl Power would yield the unintended consequence of de-balling the menz.

Posted by: kallisto at December 30, 2017 02:25 PM (AJwk0)

72 Send in Admiral Blue Hair she will know what to do.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 30, 2017 02:25 PM (dKiJG)

73 Quiet round here.

Posted by: SteveOReno at December 30, 2017 02:25 PM (SiTI+)

74 I'm sorry, I'm not following this. Could you elaborate?
Posted by: m

Do you work at CNN?

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:25 PM (In2qM)

75 God bless and protect the Persian Landing Strips.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 02:25 PM (WbIyz)

76 An Iranian, an American, and a German die and go to hell. They each get permission to call home. The American is charged $1000 for his call, the German is charged $2000 for his call, but it only costs the Iranian $1 dollar to reach home. The American and the German ask why the Iranian was charged so little. There are told, "He made a local call."

Posted by: Johnny at December 30, 2017 02:26 PM (kUotE)

77 The media is like the Palestinians, they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. This would have been the perfect time to decouple their lips from Barry's ass and act like they actually gave a s*** about the truth, if for no other reason than to regain some tiny measure of their dignity and public trust.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:26 PM (LAe3v)

78
Honest to Christ, I'm surprised Fake News didn't say this was about President Trump moving the US embassy to the real capital of Israel.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 30, 2017 02:26 PM (H0qMa)

79 During the Reagan year's everything was Reagan's fault as Bloom County satired via Editor Overbeek. So it is no surprise the media's go to headline is "It's Trump's Fault." This is what winning looks like when ones enemies control the MSM.


Posted by: Locke Common at December 30, 2017 02:27 PM (YQoau)

80 Now the totes non-political destruction of pictures of the Supreme Leader has spread even to Isfahan, home of the Iranian nuclear program that is busily completely not creating nuclear warheads.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8jbl345

Posted by: Not On CNN at December 30, 2017 02:27 PM (Po6Jc)

81
I have five words plus six more:

Walter Duranty
Holodomar
Pulitzer Prize

And the final six:

New York Times, go to Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:27 PM (mbhDw)

82
At a used book store. On the shelf I see Bush on the Couch by a psychiatrist purporting to uncover Bush 43's mental unfitness to be president.

So let's dispense with the notion that Trump is somehow a unique danger. To the Left all Republicans are Nazis, stupid and unbalanced. Thank God we have a president who is eager to fight back.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2017 02:27 PM (a2J8z)

83 14 #MakeIranGreatAgain
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2017 02:07 PM (oVJmc)

MIGA, please

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:28 PM (ANIFC)

84 CNN took our jerbs!

Posted by: The Onion at December 30, 2017 02:29 PM (gC2IV)

85 70 >>>57 If Kharj Is were burning, gas prices in Iran would be higher, just saying ...
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:20 PM (In2qM)

I'm sorry, I'm not following this. Could you elaborate?
Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:24 PM (6gGph)


Actually, as I learned from the Horde yesterday, thanks to Obama the Iranians now have an oil refinery paid for by the Iran Sellout Deal and Pallets of Cash.

It's in the city of Bandar Abbas. Be a real shame if lightning were to strike it. "Jewish lightning" IYKWIM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:29 PM (mbhDw)

86 Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 30, 2017 02:26 PM (H0qMa)

I think they've already forgotten all about it. That was, like, three or four apocalyptic scandals ago.

White van! White van!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2017 02:29 PM (T28di)

87

♫All they are saying is the rent's too damn high♫

Posted by: This is CNN at December 30, 2017 02:29 PM (IqV8l)

88 I can't fathom how that is considered to be legitimate "reporting." I don't know what to call it.
Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:03 PM (6gGph)


She's wearing a shemagh for authenticity.

A real one, not one from Sears.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 30, 2017 02:30 PM (2K6fY)

89 Trump being the puppeteer is slightly inaccurate.

Our allies in the ME realize the US now has their back. SA and others are supporting this.

Sounds like something MBS would get behind.

Posted by: golfman at December 30, 2017 02:30 PM (48QDY)

90 For eight years the media told us how the Obamas were giving the world a new respect for America, as they were widely mocked in foreign countries and left smoking ruins of entire nations.

Now they tell us that the Trumps are wrecking America's standing in the world as they are warmly received everywhere they go and are making foreign policy progress on several fronts.

The veterans of the Soviet-era Pravda must be shaking their heads in wonder.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 02:30 PM (sdi6R)

91 CNN is only covering this because a white truck was spotted in Tehran.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:30 PM (ANIFC)

92 Here is the official State Department statement on the protests issued yesterday.

https://tinyurl.com/y7m8u9ut

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:31 PM (/tuJf)

93 Iran revolution due to covert US operatives.

North Korea can run nuke program due to US Navy policing energy import sanctions.

This is CNN. This just in: President Trump gets two scoops of ice cream served , while his guests only get one.

Posted by: redenzo at December 30, 2017 02:31 PM (14qvS)

94 ...Bush on the Couch...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2017 02:27 PM (a2J8z)

You did that on purpose.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (T71PA)

95
Obviously we don't really know the exact situation on the ground but it is certainly widespread and regime-toppling centric.

If the regime can be toppled, it will be an event on the order of magnitude of the taking down of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union. A once in a lifetime that changes the course of history.

And it will be on this President's watch. God bless and keep him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (mbhDw)

96 50,53 Well that's certainly a relief.
How do you know?
Why is Afghanistan the longest war this country's ever had again? What was our purpose there??? Our endgame???
You guys sure are hawkish like you've learned nothing from the last 30 years of mideast politics and warfighting

Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (9TR2V)

97 Jennifer Rubin has finally said something about Trump's support of Democracy for Iranians

https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/946789572905701377

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 30, 2017 02:33 PM (Po6Jc)

98 94 ...Bush on the Couch...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2017 02:27 PM (a2J8z)

You did that on purpose.
Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (T71PA)

Better than him on a white ottoman

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:33 PM (ANIFC)

99 94 ...Bush on the Couch...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2017 02:27 PM (a2J8z)

You did that on purpose.
Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (T71PA)


Bush on the Couch. Isn't that REALLY the story of Harvey Weinstein?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:33 PM (mbhDw)

100 Anyone hear from Obama ? Anything ? Nada ?

Posted by: Possible TrumpTwitter at December 30, 2017 02:33 PM (gSwpy)

101 Yeah ace! Thanks for bringing the twatter stuff here, it's good.


Oh, and as I recall you'd really only shop in Ginza if you're looking for things like kimonos. Much more glitz shopping in Shinjuku. Plus, cosplay girls.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 02:33 PM (iynDC)

102 JackStraw, I saw that statement yesterday, and if I had felt better I would have been pumping my fist while dancing in my livingroom shouting Woot! Woot!

After 20+ years of mealy mouthed non-commital safety, this is bigger thing than any I can think of

Posted by: Kindltot at December 30, 2017 02:34 PM (2K6fY)

103 98
Better than him on a white ottoman
Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:33 PM (ANIFC)

How the Ottoman Became White...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:34 PM (mbhDw)

104 >>You guys sure are hawkish like you've learned nothing from the last 30 years of mideast politics and warfighting

What in the fuck are you talking about? We are watching Iranian citizens protest against their own theocratic dictatorship and cheering them on and condemning the coverage of our own media which is seeking to spin this as anti-Trump and somehow you get a military invasion and nation building out of that?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:35 PM (/tuJf)

105 The economic part is that the Obama billions, which were expected to "trickle down" to the people ended up only further enriching the Mullahs, Hezbollah, and the Revolutionary Guards.

But that is just the straw which broke the back of the camel. Trump's actions in the ME have given them hope that this time the US will have the back of the people of Iran unlike Obama who loved him some tyrants.

Richard Fernandez at Belmont Club has written on this too today.

http://tinyurl.com/ybxmlz6p

Posted by: geoffb at December 30, 2017 02:35 PM (zOpu5)

106 96 50,53 Well that's certainly a relief.
How do you know?
Why is Afghanistan the longest war this country's ever had again? What was our purpose there??? Our endgame???
You guys sure are hawkish like you've learned nothing from the last 30 years of mideast politics and warfighting
Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (9TR2V)

-----------

Could you please point to anyone advocating war in Iran?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 02:35 PM (gC2IV)

107 "The so-called 'Allies' have stormed ashore by their greedy tens of thousands this morning on this placid shore defended only by several thousand German troops who had been, until just a few hours ago, celebrating their 4th year of a Western Europe united in economic and social policy in a way not seen all its history."

"These lightly armed young men are fighting for their lives against the onslaught of American hayseeds and British and Canadian Imperialists, and though they are stacking the invaders' bodies high in the surf, it is only a matter of time before they are overrun and slaughtered, and Europe's peace shattered forever."

"This is CNN Foreign Correspondent Peter Arnett reporting from Nazi Machine Gun Bunker No. 64 overlooking Omaha Beach".

*gets shot in his ample forehead*

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2017 02:36 PM (BfOXk)

108 100 Anyone hear from Obama ? Anything ? Nada ?
Posted by: Possible TrumpTwitter at December 30, 2017 02:33 PM (gSwpy)


Considering the corruption within the Deep State at CIA, NSA and elsewhere, what are the odds that rogue elements there are leaking info to Obama and the Farsi Ferret down the road at the Kalorama Kaliphate Kompound which is then being relayed to Tehran?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:36 PM (mbhDw)

109 58


Instead, State is letting the president twist in the wind with mere tweets about what's happening.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 30, 2017 02:21 PM (H0qMa)


-----Saw a statement letter from Heather Nauert (SD spox).

And, PDJT, of course, isn't leaving the rhetoric up to someone else.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 30, 2017 02:36 PM (SIP8o)

110 Maxiepad, The Arabs have been at war with us since 1973, when they assassin ated Amb Noel. If you take a limited view.

Saying enough isn't warmongering

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (In2qM)

111 I think the media is accidentally pumping out a shit ton of red pills by reporting EVERY STORY WRONG. A lot of young people are going to have their eyes opened during the Trump presidency.

Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (q177U)

112 89 And will have their back for...exactly how long it takes for Dems to retake the presidency or the congress. So what...4 years?

Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (9TR2V)

113 96 50,53 Well that's certainly a relief.
How do you know?
Why is Afghanistan the longest war this country's ever had again? What was our purpose there??? Our endgame???
You guys sure are hawkish like you've learned nothing from the last 30 years of mideast politics and warfighting
Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (9TR2V)


I think we've learned plenty about open-ended endless wars our troops are not allowed to win. I've seen no sign that Trump wants to continue that policy.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (sdi6R)

114 I posted this in the earlier thread.

So I went searching to see some of the stuff about Iran's last effort at voicing opposition to their regime in 2009. First thing I found of note was from several months in earlier in February of 2009 where its noted that Obama's team had been talking to Iran and Syria for MONTHS. After being President for less than two weeks, and the media is losing their shit over Trump's team having any contact at all with Russia.

http://minx.cc:1080/?post=282200

And then we get to the actual Iranian protests in June.

Obama speaks up several days later in a weak statement. http://minx.cc:1080/?post=288565

State department calls the violent government reaction to the protests "debate" http://minx.cc:1080/?post=288654

McCain criticizing Obama weak response on Iran. http://minx.cc:1080/?post=288671

Obama finally giving support to protesters. Again a bit mealy-mouthed. http://minx.cc:1080/?post=288775

Obama administration zeroes out spending on supporting democracy in Iran. Yup he sure is big on them not being an Islamist state. http://ace.mu.nu/archives/288768.php#288768

June 22 and Obama stills has an invite to Iranian diplomats to attend Independence Day celebrations of Hot Dogs and Fireworks. http://minx.cc:1080/?post=288872

June 24 and the invite is rescinded. Not because Obama's team realized how bad it looks, but because no Iranians invited RSVPed. http://minx.cc:1080/?post=288963

Obama/Merkel Press Conference and Merkel has stronger statement against Iran than Obama. http://minx.cc:1080/?post=289038

Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (cAnNx)

115 97
Jennifer Rubin has finally said something about Trump's support of Democracy for Iranians: "Trumps ongoing ignorance, like his contempt for democratic norms and insistence on monarchical-like loyalty, are mainstays of his personality."


She's another one who fooled me. I knew she wasn't really a conservative, but didn't think she was as far gone as this.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (LAe3v)

116
FUPA - Farsis United Pro-America!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (mbhDw)

117 "Iran: Trump is the main source of ill will against our nation"


He even causes Iranians to have ill will against their own nation. He's turned them into fanatical, MAGA-esque teabagger types.

He incites them to be dissatisfied with their leaders and to doubt the propaganda that is given to them. If there's any violence or bloodshed, it'll be Trump's fault.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (/qEW2)

118 #MIGA

Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (q177U)

119 CNN is only covering this because a white truck was spotted in Tehran.
Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:30 PM (ANIFC)

Made me laugh.

Posted by: girldog at December 30, 2017 02:38 PM (g5YYQ)

120 104. a legit smackdown, appropriately applied.

Posted by: kallisto at December 30, 2017 02:38 PM (AJwk0)

121 Should be in garden thread, but by the time I snapped the pics, it was double-willowed. I watered, since Mrs IMG was just discharged from the hospital yesterday and is rather laid up.

http://tinypic.com/r/309lefp/9
http://tinypic.com/r/os9vgp/9
http://tinypic.com/r/1235icx/9
http://tinypic.com/r/2n0lmx5/9

More light is needed, but then Mrs IMG will increase the number of plants (again).

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 30, 2017 02:38 PM (di1hb)

122 The problem is they can't think straight with Obozo's dick in their mouths.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 02:38 PM (+y/Ru)

123
"A lot of nations and their populations, no matter how they feel about their governments in particular, do perceive the United States as not really having a moral leg to stand on."






Why should we give a flying fuck what the rest of the world thinks? The rest of the world hates us mostly for the following reasons:

We're richer than they are.

We're one of the few places in the world where a person can get rich by working harder and smarter than others, without having to suck government bureaucrat cock.

We can live anywhere we choose within our own borders, up to the limits of our pocketbook, without a residence permit (90% of Europe, I'm looking at you).

Our military could crush any other nation on earth if we chose to do so (even after 8 years of Chocolate Fonzie dorking the military in the squeekhole).

Virtually every important technological innovation in the last 50 years comes from the US.

We have more freedom than any other nation in the world (I don't give a fuck what those various Freedom Indexes say).

We're mostly a Christian nation (which is WHY we have more freedom than anywhere in the world).

For good or ill, virtually all popular culture in the world comes from the US (to be fair, they might have a point here).

They hate us because they are NOT Americans, and because they're too lazy, bigoted and uncivilized to embrace the strengths of the American System and pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Envy, in a word.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2017 02:38 PM (eXA4G)

124 She continued, "A lot of nations and their populations, no matter how
they feel about their governments in particular, do perceive the United
States as not really having a moral leg to stand on."

****

lefties have been claiming the rest of the world hates us since I have been alive (1969).

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 30, 2017 02:38 PM (h1jJh)

125 Is the liberalization of Saudi Arabia influencing the Iranian youth?

Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2017 02:39 PM (q177U)

126 "World Shitting Pants In Fear They'll Miss The Huge Economic Boom Trump Just Started."

"Tens of Millions, Dreaming of Freedom Now That Ex-Prez'Nit Cock-Curious, The 'Fascists' Best Friend', Has Left The Oval Office, Protest Their Evil, Murderous Governments."

A little help for CNN's headline writers.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2017 02:39 PM (BfOXk)

127 Considering the corruption within the Deep State at CIA, NSA and elsewhere, what are the odds that rogue elements there are leaking info to Obama and the Farsi Ferret down the road at the Kalorama Kaliphate Kompound which is then being relayed to Tehran?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:36 PM (mbhDw)

I wouldn't put money against it.

Posted by: jsg at December 30, 2017 02:39 PM (gSwpy)

128 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:36 PM (mbhDw)


Farsi Ferrett. Stolen.

Posted by: golfman at December 30, 2017 02:40 PM (48QDY)

129 126 "World Shitting Pants In Fear They'll Miss The Huge Economic Boom Trump Just Started."

"Tens of Millions, Dreaming of Freedom Now That Ex-Prez'Nit Cock-Curious, The 'Fascists' Best Friend', Has Left The Oval Office, Protest Their Evil, Murderous Governments."

A little help for CNN's headline writers.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2017 02:39 PM (BfOXk)

They are going to miss it because we're taking it back.

Trump's unilateral deals means he's turning everyone else against each other. They'll have to compete to impress us.

MAGA is what's for dinner.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 30, 2017 02:40 PM (4ErVI)

130 Gateway Pundit has a link to pics of buses, saying the Iran Gov buses in their protesters like Dems did.

this shows the buses ... and some guy speaking Persian (I guess, maybe Austrian)
youtube.com/watch?v=9eDuryfzFME

Posted by: illiniwek at December 30, 2017 02:40 PM (otAqJ)

131 100
Anyone hear from Obama ? Anything ? Nada ?

Posted by: Possible TrumpTwitter


I don't know what you people want from me. I've already rescinded my offer to give Texas to the Iranians if they didn't develop nukes.

**cough**for 2 months**cough**

Posted by: Barack "Let's Make a Deal" Obama at December 30, 2017 02:41 PM (LAe3v)

132 106 96 50,53 Well that's certainly a relief.
How do you know?
Why is Afghanistan the longest war this country's ever had again? What was our purpose there??? Our endgame???
You guys sure are hawkish like you've learned nothing from the last 30 years of mideast politics and warfighting
Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (9TR2V)


Yes, let's just sit on our hands and let the world's #1 sponsor of terrorism, on the road to developing nukes and exporting that tech to the NorKs, who believe and want Armageddon against us stay in power and crush a population that hates Islamic fundamentalism.

We should be doing everything we can to help topple that regime. And it doesn't necessarily involve war. Naval blockade of the Gulf and freezing all assets right now, as well as all forms of covert ops with I'm sure the Israelis and Saudis.

This is where intervention is in our national interest. To not see this is to be willfully ignorant or just obtuse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:42 PM (mbhDw)

133 CNN interviewed "The World" and found they all think just like CNN.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 30, 2017 02:42 PM (otAqJ)

134 If any one is twittering with someone in Iran, please, dear God get them to start posting pics of white vans

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:42 PM (In2qM)

135 >>Is the liberalization of Saudi Arabia influencing the Iranian youth?

Two years ago this coming January I was at a trade fair in Dubai that had attendees from all over the region including Iranians. Virtually all of them were dressed in western clothes and were quite personable even with us Americans.

They were practically begging us to do business with them and we had to keep telling them that it was illegal for us to do so. They weren't angry at us, they were angry at their own government for making that the case.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:42 PM (/tuJf)

136 Iranians do seem better informed than most citizens of totalitarian regimes. They know the crap their government is prioritizing and they don't want any part of it. And they're protesting. We may get there someday. Well, let's wait a bit longer if we can do this peacefully.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 30, 2017 02:43 PM (/qEW2)

137 104 106 Look folks I'm as much behind freedom from oppression as anyone but this is exactly the buildup I remember quite clearly from our recent adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Noone was talking about war until they did.
Noone else remembers that???
It starts with bold gestures affirming the local freedom fighters.. always does.
Why do we always assume that our opponents are being sold a bill of goods but we're not???

Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:43 PM (9TR2V)

138 Iran, Japan. Both have two syllables, and end in "an".


Coincidence? We think not.

Posted by: your betters at the NYT at December 30, 2017 02:43 PM (d6iST)

139 CNN-Communist News Network

CNN-Clinton News Network

CNN-Completely negligible news source

Add your own!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 02:43 PM (8+Ozj)

140 lefties have been claiming the rest of the world hates us since I have been alive (1969).


Posted by: Lemmiwinks


And I haven't cared in the slightest since 1969.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:44 PM (LAe3v)

141 Is the liberalization of Saudi Arabia influencing the Iranian youth?

Liberalization? I doubt I would phrase it that way.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2017 02:44 PM (SjImc)

142 Moral leg to stand on and World should never be used in the same sentence

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2017 02:45 PM (O2RFr)

143
60 God keep the young rebels. It's so odd that so many of our own youth want nothing more than to be slaves.
Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 02:22 PM (WbIyz)


Waaaah! They're gutting Cards Against Humanity!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2017 02:45 PM (pNxlR)

144 Like NCAA brackets, Obama always backs the losers.

And CNN just amplifies that.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 02:45 PM (arhmY)

145 in a completely shocking, totally unexpected development, our would be fascist overlords and their minions the #FakeNewsMedia side with other fascists...

#Film@11!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 30, 2017 02:45 PM (HbNSs)

146 104 >>You guys sure are hawkish like you've learned nothing from the last 30 years of mideast politics and warfighting

What in the fuck are you talking about? We are watching Iranian citizens protest against their own theocratic dictatorship and cheering them on and condemning the coverage of our own media which is seeking to spin this as anti-Trump and somehow you get a military invasion and nation building out of that?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:35 PM (/tuJf)

Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:32 PM (9TR2V)

-----------

Could you please point to anyone advocating war in Iran?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 02:35 PM (gC2IV)



Careful guys. Too many of you start criticizing his comments and little Maxie will accuse you of labeling him Emmanuel Goldstein.

Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2017 02:45 PM (cAnNx)

147 Considering the corruption within the Deep State at CIA, NSA and elsewhere, what are the odds that rogue elements there are leaking info to Obama and the Farsi Ferret down the road at the Kalorama Kaliphate Kompound which is then being relayed to Tehran?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:36 PM (mbhDw)

I saw something the other day about Trump and Netanyahu signing some document to put the screws to Iran.

I wonder if these demonstrations are related? Doubtful because it would take a lot of assets in country to make it happen.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (4ErVI)

148 This is where intervention is in our national interest. To not see this is to be willfully ignorant or just obtuse.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:42 PM (mbhDw)

-------------------------

There's always option c: evil.

I no longer give leftists the benefit of a doubt.

Posted by: Blake at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (WEBkv)

149 I don't want the World to "like" the US I want them to fear us...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (O2RFr)

150 I can't fathom how that is considered to be legitimate "reporting." I don't know what to call it.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:03 PM (6gGph)

If you did her, you'd have to do her in the ass, because she doesn't have a moral **** to fuck with.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (d6iST)

151 7 CNN is now reporting that the protests are strictly over food and gas prices.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)


Lying weasels.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (8+Ozj)

152 >>Look folks I'm as much behind freedom from oppression as anyone but this is exactly the buildup I remember quite clearly from our recent adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Noone was talking about war until they did.
Noone else remembers that???
It starts with bold gestures affirming the local freedom fighters.. always does.
Why do we always assume that our opponents are being sold a bill of goods but we're not???

Let me refresh your memory. The wars in Iraq had nothing to do with locals protesting against their governments. It had to do with Islamic nuts flying planes full of Americans into buildings and killing thousands of Americans.

There is absolutely no comparison to what we are seeing right now with Afghanistan and Iraq.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (/tuJf)

153 Covering the story.
With a pillow.
Until it's dead.

If I think about this any more my head will explode.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (oVWx5)

154
A lot of young people are going to have their eyes opened during the Trump presidency.
Posted by: Max Power


Their eyes wide shut

Posted by: Shaka when the walls fell at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (IqV8l)

155 14 #MakeIranGreatAgain
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2017 02:07 PM (oVJmc)

MIGA, please

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:28 PM (ANIFC)




I am choking to death here.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (WbIyz)

156 137 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.
Hope to God I'm wrong.

Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (9TR2V)

157 81
I have five words plus six more:

Walter Duranty
Holodomar
Pulitzer Prize

And the final six:

New York Times, go to Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:27 PM (mbhDw)

Amen. Coincidentally enough I was recently talking to my eldest child about this very thing in the context of MFM coverups and propaganda going way back, and why the explosion of new media on the Internet is a net good, despite some of the drawbacks.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (NWiLs)

158 I am still not clear how this helps my Yankees?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (SjImc)

159 Question about pulling down the giant sign of The Man in the Turban and Beard - why was it there in the first place? Wouldn't that constitute an "image", forbidden in Islam? Or are photographs permitted? Or do Shias have a different take on the issue?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (/qEW2)

160
Fleets of white vans are flooding this nation's roadways!

The counter-revolution of DJT and the alt-right has begun!

Notify the stalwart warriors of #TheResistance, #HollywoodBattalion!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (pNxlR)

161 >>>And, PDJT, of course, isn't leaving the rhetoric up to someone else.
Posted by: baldilocks at December 30, 2017 02:36 PM (SIP8o)

Hi, baldilocks. Long time.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (6gGph)

162
The wars in Iraq had nothing to do with locals protesting against their governments. It had to do with Islamic nuts flying planes full of Americans into buildings and killing thousands of Americans.

How many Iraqis flew planes into buildings?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (IqV8l)

163 The Fake News Media also known as the main stream media is as anti-white, anti-western civilization as the mullah are.

BTW, just got my last big ammo purchase delivered. I wasn't going to buy anymore but I felt I owed it to myself....and my enemies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (3BFzK)

164 This is what happens when you don't spread the Obama stash around. Don't Bogart that Stash My Friend.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (vV/gB)

165 151 7 CNN is now reporting that the protests are strictly over food and gas prices.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)
____________________________________

Nothing that Bernie Sanders couldn't fix with a little Venezuelan socialism.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 02:49 PM (arhmY)

166 It starts with bold gestures affirming the local freedom fighters.. always does.

Boy, Obama and we really dodged a bullet in 2009, huh. Who knows what kind of dangerous s*** Neda was up to.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:49 PM (LAe3v)

167 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.
Hope to God I'm wrong.
Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (9TR2V)

As long as you don't mean the agents of allies and maybe some of of our own spooks on the ground there, I'l take that bet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2017 02:49 PM (SjImc)

168 Trump to MFM: How's my ass taste?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2017 02:49 PM (y7DUB)

169 159 Question about pulling down the giant sign of The Man in the Turban and Beard - why was it there in the first place? Wouldn't that constitute an "image", forbidden in Islam? Or are photographs permitted? Or do Shias have a different take on the issue?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (/qEW2)

I think it's the Iranian version of Grindr.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 30, 2017 02:49 PM (4ErVI)

170 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.
Hope to God I'm wrong.

Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (9TR2V)


I'll take that bet.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 02:50 PM (T71PA)

171 156 137 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.
Hope to God I'm wrong.
Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (9TR2V)

-------------------------

Liar.

You'll be here in a heartbeat, gloating while telling everyone "I told you so."

Posted by: Blake at December 30, 2017 02:50 PM (WEBkv)

172 Put the shovel down and stop digging, Maxie.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 02:50 PM (gC2IV)

173 Just imagine how bad the Iranian economy would be now if Fredo had NOT given them billions and lifted all the sanctions? Thanks Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2017 02:50 PM (SjImc)

174 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.

I'll take that bet, x1000. ATC can hold the money. Or were you just blowing smoke out your ass?

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:50 PM (LAe3v)

175 123
For good or ill, virtually all popular culture in the world comes from the US (to be fair, they might have a point here).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2017 02:38 PM (eXA4G)


You touched on something important there. Back when Hollywood was making Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne movies, they made plenty of people in foreign countries want to emulate Americans. Jazz music became popular around the world, including behind the Iron Curtain.

Today they see the raw sewage being pumped out by America's entertainment industry and are disgusted. One can even sympathize with observant Muslims who are outraged that the West wants to turn their daughters into whores.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 02:51 PM (sdi6R)

176 And speaking of CNN, Don "Black Hole Black Asshole" Lemon yells "No!" nine times and goes to comnercial to keep uppity conservative from talking about Felonia von Pantsuit's emails.

http://bit.ly/2CcZ1sl

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 02:51 PM (+y/Ru)

177 Willowed:

I'm reading an interesting article from Military History on a 19th Russian (actually Chechen) adventurer's attempt to establish a Cossack colony at a port in what is now Djibouti (currently the site of our Camp Lemonnier and the new Chinese port). It was fueled by Slavophile expansion and a feeling of common cultural ground with the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

Spoiler: It was a resounding failure. Cossacks, being Cossacks, soon resorted to rapine and slaughter, they pissed off the local tribes and the Europeans, and their colony was shelled by the French. Ashinov was exiled to the Volga River region.

Still...perhaps Uncle Palp should give it another go?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 30, 2017 02:51 PM (qJtVm)

178 Should these protests in Iran work to over through the mullahs, it was clearly due to King Shit Midas's planning and 11th dimensional chess strategy.

Should anything, even a hang nail come about, it is all evil Trump's fault.

Posted by: This is CNN at December 30, 2017 02:51 PM (3BFzK)

179 The regime is bussing in our protestors, the Times is phoning in its reporting and CNN parroting the party line--perfect!

I don't care what anybody says; those "independent journalists" make mighty fine slaves!

Posted by: Ayatollah Kho-anchor at December 30, 2017 02:51 PM (Ndje9)

180 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.

What would we gain?

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 02:51 PM (WbIyz)

181
149 I don't want the World to "like" the US I want them to fear us...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (O2RFr)








Let them hate, so long as they fear.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2017 02:52 PM (eXA4G)

182 137 104 106 Look folks I'm as much behind freedom from oppression as anyone but this is exactly the buildup I remember quite clearly from our recent adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Noone was talking about war until they did.
Noone else remembers that???
It starts with bold gestures affirming the local freedom fighters.. always does.
Why do we always assume that our opponents are being sold a bill of goods but we're not???
Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:43 PM (9TR2V)

We were talking about war with AQ, who were harbored & supported by the Taliban government of Afghanistan, as soon as it was known they were responsible for 9/11. had nothing to do with supporting "local freedom fighters."

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:52 PM (ANIFC)

183 Is there anything The Donald *can't* do?

Posted by: logprof at December 30, 2017 02:52 PM (pHGAx)

184 >>How many Iraqis flew planes into buildings?

Really? Are we really going to fight the start of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq again?

I thought by now it was pretty much common knowledge that we were fighting against transnational terrorists who made their homes in places like Afghanistan and Iraq and against the governments that harbored them but if some think it was because the locals were protesting against food and gas prices have at it.


Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:52 PM (/tuJf)

185 It doesn't count until they hang a few government weenies with turbans from lamp posts.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 02:52 PM (vV/gB)

186 Still...perhaps Uncle Palp should give it another go?

Are there railroad tracks there for his armored train?

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 02:52 PM (WbIyz)

187 Compare how the Times and CNN reports the changes in Saudi Arabia, our strongest Islamic ally in the Middle East, and soft sells the changes in Iran.

Bias. Front and center.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (arhmY)

188 too lazy to make covfefe so I'm having tea instead

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (hMwEB)

189 160
Fleets of white vans are flooding this nation's roadways!

The counter-revolution of DJT and the alt-right has begun!

Notify the stalwart warriors of #TheResistance, #HollywoodBattalion!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (pNxlR)


White vans are a dogwhistle for White Nationalists.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (sdi6R)

190 Ashinov was exiled to the Volga River region.

Where he became a boatman. They even wrote a song about it.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

191 Jeebus, MAxIE, where were you the last 30 years?


Your description of Iraq and A'stan bear not the slightest resemblance to history or reality. And to think that US military action is implied or in play WRT Iran's internal turmoil is just idiotic.


And it's not just the idiot "left" or Dems who make informed people reluctant to go or support sending Americans into harms' way any more - it's people like you and others here (sadly), who combine a Code Pink understanding of the world with an NPR-level of information.


But the internalization of MSM/Beltway mindlessness on this topic extends all the way up the chain around here, so it's best just left alone, in a triage sense.


Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (iynDC)

192 180 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.

What would we gain?
------------------
Apricots and Dates!

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (vV/gB)

193 It has been 40+ years since the Mullahs took over Iran/Persia. There are stll people alive and their kids and grandkids who remember when Teheran was an admired city (within the muslim-type world) and having an Iranian passport was not an embarrassment. They had real schools, beautiful country, thriving economy and; guess what happened on the way to shariah law.

Bah.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 30, 2017 02:54 PM (MIKMs)

194 177 Willowed:

I'm reading an interesting article from Military History on a 19th Russian (actually Chechen) adventurer's attempt to establish a Cossack colony at a port in what is now Djibouti (currently the site of our Camp Lemonnier and the new Chinese port). It was fueled by Slavophile expansion and a feeling of common cultural ground with the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

Spoiler: It was a resounding failure. Cossacks, being Cossacks, soon resorted to rapine and slaughter, they pissed off the local tribes and the Europeans, and their colony was shelled by the French. Ashinov was exiled to the Volga River region.

Still...perhaps Uncle Palp should give it another go?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 30, 2017 02:51 PM (qJtVm)

That sounds really interesting. Is that in the current issue of Military History? I gave up on them about 10 years ago.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:54 PM (ANIFC)

195 Ya know none of this would be happening if the Israelis just gave the palestinians everything they wanted. Right Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2017 02:54 PM (SjImc)

196 185
It doesn't count until they hang a few government weenies with turbans from lamp posts.

Posted by: Puddin Head


The Persians are a resourceful people. I'm sure they can be more creative than that.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:54 PM (LAe3v)

197 There is a lot of ongoing interest in Puntland and Baidoa right now, reach out to me in the group delavalette if you're serious

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:54 PM (In2qM)

198 181
149 I don't want the World to "like" the US I want them to fear us...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2017 02:46 PM (O2RFr)








Let them hate, so long as they fear.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2017 02:52 PM (eXA4G)

Oderint dum metuant.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 02:54 PM (NWiLs)

199 192 180 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.

What would we gain?
------------------
Apricots and Dates!
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (vV/gB)

I could use a date.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:54 PM (ANIFC)

200 I'll take that bet.

I'm in for a fin.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 02:55 PM (WbIyz)

201 The Left is in bed with the Mullahs because there's damn good money in hating America. Haven't run the numbers but I'm guessing the DNC is at least 50% funded by the Middle East.

Posted by: Mega at December 30, 2017 02:55 PM (rv0Fo)

202 Today they see the raw sewage being pumped out by America's entertainment industry and are disgusted.

-
Mrs. Wrecks wanted to see Spielberg's new movie starring Squirrel Screech about how WaPo took down a president. If she goes, it'll be without the Anonosaurus.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 02:55 PM (+y/Ru)

203 176 And speaking of CNN, Don "Black Hole Black Asshole" Lemon yells "No!" nine times and goes to comnercial to keep uppity conservative from talking about Felonia von Pantsuit's emails.

http://bit.ly/2CcZ1sl
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 02:51 PM (+y/Ru)


More like Don Logan from "Sexy Beast." That clip alone is all the proof you need that there is no such thing as journalism as it is/was defined.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 02:55 PM (mbhDw)

204 it's people like you and others here (sadly), who combine a Code Pink
understanding of the world with an NPR-level of information.


Dude, there's no need to go nuclear, at least not yet. Very amusing, though.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:56 PM (LAe3v)

205 hey, on a side note, how long until Huma and Weiner reconcile, remarry and instill that good old New York attorney client privilege on married couples making the release of the information on Weiner's computer inadmissible in any criminal case? Bets?

Posted by: Orson at December 30, 2017 02:56 PM (HdSHl)

206 Jennifer Rubin has finally said something about Trump's support of Democracy for Iranians: "Trumps ongoing ignorance, like his contempt for democratic norms and insistence on monarchical-like loyalty, are mainstays of his personality."

She's another one who fooled me. I knew she wasn't really a conservative, but didn't think she was as far gone as this.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (LAe3v)


Have you ever seen her on tv? She looks like a homeless person that dresses in stuff even Goodwill can't give away.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2017 02:57 PM (y7DUB)

207 CNN Theme Song

Vans In White Satin,
Never Reaching the End
Honest Reports we've Written,
Never Meaning to Send

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 02:57 PM (vV/gB)

208 127 I wouldn't put money against it.
Posted by: jsg at December 30, 2017 02:39 PM (gSwpy)

hmmm, this may make it possible to put the nails in a lot more treasonous deep state coffins

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 02:57 PM (hscyr)

209 Not ironic that The Post is now showing in the theaters. Trying to portray traitorous actions as patriotic. Another thing making me hulk angry.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 30, 2017 02:58 PM (2DOZq)

210 How long before CNN or the Times refer to the anti-government protesters as "reactionary hard-liners"?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 30, 2017 02:58 PM (ppaKI)

211 well, isn't *this* interesting?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-30/
jihadist-group-blows-oil-pipeline-iran-midst-protests

i question the timing...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 30, 2017 02:58 PM (HbNSs)

212 Presumably the mullah money Ob+mao gave Iran in cash has serial numbers....has it surfaced?

AQnd more appropriately, what congressional authorization gave it to Ob+mao?

Why doesn't the presstitutes do their job?

Posted by: torabora at December 30, 2017 02:58 PM (sgGDX)

213 Let me get this straight. The FNM is saying that the protests have nothing to do with the mullahs and sharia, much less islam but are due to economics?

I thought the JEF got rid of sanctions and airlifted billions to Iran. Huh.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 30, 2017 02:59 PM (3BFzK)

214 Have you ever seen her on tv? She looks like a homeless person that dresses in stuff even Goodwill can't give away.

Posted by: Captain Hate


Can't say I have. Does she at least wear pants?

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:59 PM (LAe3v)

215 Who knew there were so many deplorables in Iran?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 02:59 PM (vV/gB)

216 The real story of the Pentagon Papers is some butthurt analysts who had their opinions rejected, leaking their crap to a traitorous press.

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:59 PM (In2qM)

217
Maxiepad, The Arabs have been at war with us since 1973, when they assassin ated Amb Noel. If you take a limited view.



Saying enough isn't warmongering

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 02:37 PM (In2qM)

The muzzies have been at war with civilization since 632 A.D.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2017 02:59 PM (d6iST)

218 Fake News is contacting their subversives inside the State Dept asking them what's going in Iran.



State Dept shadow-govt moles are providing Fake News with this pro-iranian govt BULLSHIT.
--

Actually, we just email our friend Aubrey at The Guardian, and he tells us the rightthink.

Posted by: CNN/ NYT reporters at December 30, 2017 03:00 PM (aT+Bx)

219 "If the regime can be toppled, it will be an event on the order of magnitude of the taking down of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union. A once in a lifetime that changes the course of history.Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Trump did the sword dance in SA ... seems at least some decided regime change here was a good time for them to get on board fighting terrorism in their own realm.

Maybe the average Mo' six pack in the MENA really doesn't love the terrorists as much as Obama/Hillary did.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 30, 2017 03:00 PM (otAqJ)

220 216 The real story of the Pentagon Papers is some butthurt analysts who had their opinions rejected, leaking their crap to a traitorous press.

Nothings changed

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2017 03:00 PM (O2RFr)

221 Cossacks in Djibouti? Wow. That's sci-fi level weird.


And I can't see how rapine and general savagery would put any locals off - the Danakil are among the most colorfully brutal sorts that still walk the earth.


Talk about assimilating to a different climate, though. Oh boy.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:00 PM (iynDC)

222 The only one that can fix this is The One!!

Bring back Barack! /CNN "Trust us".

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - Resolution: 'positive thinking'...like that'll do any good. at December 30, 2017 03:00 PM (dq5u8)

223 The real story of the Pentagon Papers is some butthurt analysts who had their opinions rejected, leaking their crap to a traitorous press.

The funny part was that the disclosure made JFK and LBJ look bad, not Nixon.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:00 PM (WbIyz)

224 OT: Any Greaseman fans left for the Can-Can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6og0uLKOqAI

Posted by: DaveA at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (FhXTo)

225
'MaXie', btw is a big banana splits supporter. The divisive, argumentative one who has already been banned once.

The sheets are coming off.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (2FqvZ)

226 I don't care what anybody says; those "independent journalists" make mighty fine slaves!

-
Picking cotton on Plantation Obama.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (+y/Ru)

227
Jennifer Ruboneout is a leftwing stooge. To be ignored and/or mocked mercilessly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (mbhDw)

228 Jimmy Carter: History's Greatest Monster.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (WbIyz)

229 Antifa is protesting economic woes, also

Posted by: jsg at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (gSwpy)

230 It's because of youth unemployment!

Posted by: Marie Harf, on the verge of unemployment herself at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (Ndje9)

231 Trump needs to bring the covfefe.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - Resolution: 'positive thinking'...like that'll do any good. at December 30, 2017 03:02 PM (dq5u8)

232 How long before CNN or the Times refer to the anti-government protesters as "reactionary hard-liners"?
--

Thanks for the tip, that's a great idea!

We're going to lead with "Alt-right deplorable reactionary hard-liners that share the same values at the nationalist Nazi loving Tea Party members."

Posted by: CNN/ NYT reporters at December 30, 2017 03:02 PM (aT+Bx)

233 223 The real story of the Pentagon Papers is some butthurt analysts who had their opinions rejected, leaking their crap to a traitorous press.

The funny part was that the disclosure made JFK and LBJ look bad, not Nixon.
Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:00 PM (WbIyz)

They let the traitor go though since allegedly Nixon's crew were on a mission to discredit him.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 30, 2017 03:02 PM (2DOZq)

234 The real story of the Pentagon Papers is some butthurt analysts who had their opinions rejected, leaking their crap to a traitorous press.

The funny part was that the disclosure made JFK and LBJ look bad, not Nixon.
Posted by: Grump928

Crushed McNamara

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 03:03 PM (In2qM)

235 So Jen Rubin is just as stupid and clueless as it appeared from the outset? Good to know.


Hardest hit: Hugh Hewitt, who first gave her a voice as if she has anything intelligent to say.


Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:03 PM (iynDC)

236
I saw Cossacks in Djibouti open for Fine Young Cannibals at the Palladium in '89.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:03 PM (mbhDw)

237 What in the fuck are you talking about? We are watching Iranian citizens protest against their own theocratic dictatorship and cheering them on and condemning the coverage of our own media which is seeking to spin this as anti-Trump and somehow you get a military invasion and nation building out of that?

Supporting freedom is totes supporting military action all over the globe, and being in favor of peace means hoping for the long, healthy, wealthy lives of dictators all over the globe. -- a position some people apparently take, despite it being incoherent

Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 30, 2017 03:03 PM (fVubI)

238 Pretty sure Midnight Basketball could solve this.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 03:03 PM (vV/gB)

239 Hmmmmm.....

I love me some migas...eggs scrambled w onion, toms andchilies and crispy pieces of corn tortillas and some grated cheese on top.

MIGAS.

OK, i get it now...pinche farsis.

Posted by: Pancho at December 30, 2017 03:03 PM (9YwhQ)

240 Why doesn't the presstitutes do their job?

Posted by: torabora at December 30, 2017 02:58 PM (sgGDX)
---
they do:

their j*b is to push "Teh Narrative" and protect the #DerpState...

which is what they do, relentlessly.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (HbNSs)

241 146 Careful guys. Too many of you start criticizing his comments and little Maxie will accuse you of labeling him Emmanuel Goldstein.
Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2017 02:45 PM (cAnNx)

don't forget that the mean girlz clique is behind all of this opposition to him & his brothers, and you're white knighting for them (us).

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (B3iHx)

242 "Death to Khamenei", he screamed economically.

Posted by: Professional Liars Club at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (Ndje9)

243 All we want is to be respected as if we were respectable and believed as if we were honest.

- This Is CNN

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (+y/Ru)

244 220 216 The real story of the Pentagon Papers is some butthurt analysts who had their opinions rejected, leaking their crap to a traitorous press.

Nothings changed


The modern traitors are more likely to suck dick by choice.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (fVubI)

245 Cossacks in Djibouti? Wow. That's sci-fi level weird.


And I can't see how rapine and general savagery would put any locals off - the Danakil are among the most colorfully brutal sorts that still walk the earth.


Talk about assimilating to a different climate, though. Oh boy.

Posted by: Farshimmelt

Had to have been done Great Game Russian cash behind that move.

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (In2qM)

246 IIRC Jenny Rubin was always saying how GWB screwed up Iraq and offering exactly the wrong advice. Then with Obama withdrawing and turning ISIS on the loose, she was all oh my I just leaked about this super smart man.

She was 100% wrong both times.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (3BFzK)

247 230 It's because of youth unemployment!
Posted by: Marie Harf, on the verge of unemployment herself at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (Ndje9)


Please send $20000000US via Pallets-o-Cash-o-gram for Midnight Basketballs to Tehran Community College and remain blessed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (mbhDw)

248 Clearly, these Iranians are colluding with the Russians to help Trump.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 03:04 PM (arhmY)

249 Done =some

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (In2qM)

250 Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 30, 2017 03:03 PM (fVubI)

Ron Paul !!!!

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (2DOZq)

251


Hardest hit: Hugh Hewitt, who first gave her a voice as if she has anything intelligent to say.


You know who this benefits, don't you?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (oVJmc)

252 >>>156 137 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year

make it five

Posted by: concrete girl at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (9R040)

253 Regarding CNN, Obama is "Their Guy", and "Their Guy" made a deal with Iran. So they have to make Iran look good.
CNN's news coverage has nothing to do with reality. It has to do with making liberals, democrats, and Obama look good.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (+lVUW)

254 OT: The Free Beacon MSNBC year-end summary linked in the sidebar has a clip of Kasie Hunt gleeful over Rand Paul getting shot; I had missed that at the time; it's unbelievable.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (6gGph)

255 250 Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 30, 2017 03:03 PM (fVubI)

Ron Paul !!!!
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (2D


Silver Dirhams!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (mbhDw)

256 Can someone help me out, does CNN suck FBI or CIA cock relentlessly? I know NYTs sucks CIA cock and WAPO sucks FBI cock, just wonderin about CNN?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 03:05 PM (vV/gB)

257 Have you ever seen her on tv? She looks like a homeless person that dresses in stuff even Goodwill can't give away.

Posted by: Captain Hate

Can't say I have. Does she at least wear pants?
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 02:59 PM (LAe3v)


Goolag Tucker Carlson Jen Rubin; every time Tucker challenged her on her asinine statements she started shuffling through a huge stack of papers like an insane hoarder pushing a grocery cart around. For someone who used to be an attorney for Whoreyweird studios, she has no sense of how to present herself on camera. Or just doesn't care.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2017 03:06 PM (y7DUB)

258 I wonder what McMasters has to say about this?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 03:06 PM (arhmY)

259
Yes, #MIGA. Not some suicidal theocracy aligned with the midget North Korean dictator who may cause the death of millions of his countrymen/women.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:06 PM (2FqvZ)

260 I wonder what Valerie Jarrett has to say about this?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 03:06 PM (arhmY)

261 Let me get this straight. The FNM is saying that the protests have nothing to do with the mullahs and sharia, much less islam but are due to economics?

-
They're protesting Trump's tax cuts!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 03:07 PM (+y/Ru)

262
If by "action" you mean "shopping opportunities on the Ginza strip in Japan."



Better than the shopping on the Gaza strip.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 30, 2017 03:07 PM (lKyWE)

263 Every time one of my conservative friends or relatives tells me about some phony crap from CNN, my response is that I haven't turned on that network, or any of the others for years.
If it weren't for sites like Ace of Spades, I wouldn't have any idea what those frauds are reporting.
Fu*k 'em.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 30, 2017 03:07 PM (+lVUW)

264 We're predicting a short night for the protesters.

Posted by: CNN at December 30, 2017 03:08 PM (gSwpy)

265 Apricots and Dates!

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (vV/gB)

And some of those Iranian wimmenz are pretty hot. You can keep the apricots.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2017 03:08 PM (d6iST)

266 260 I wonder what Valerie Jarrett has to say about this?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 03:06 PM (arhmY)


See my comment upthread at 108.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:08 PM (mbhDw)

267 The Iranian protests are due to Melina Trump cutting down the sacred Magnolia tree at the White House. Also Trump is a poopy head because all of islam's terror attacks are due to global warming.

Posted by: Newsweak at December 30, 2017 03:08 PM (3BFzK)

268 >>Marie Harf, on the verge of unemployment herself at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (Ndje9)

Speaking of Harf, the NYT is now pushing a story that the Russia collusion investigation was actually started not by the phony Russia collusion dossier or corrupt agents at the FBI of equally corrupt lawyers at the DOJ but by a drunken conversation between George Papadopolus, the guy Mueller indicted for lying to the FBI, when he had a drunken conversation with an Australian diplomat whom he told the Russians were pushing dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Leave aside for a moment this Pop has been described as a low level coffee boy who spent a couple weeks with the campaign, the article was co-written by Mark Mazzetti who was proven to be a collaborator with the Obama administration and specifically Marie Harf to make Obama look good over the bin Laden raid.

They are getting desperate.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 03:09 PM (/tuJf)

269 I wonder what McMasters has to say about this?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Hopefully, "We don't comment about ongoing operations."

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2017 03:09 PM (In2qM)

270 Goolag Tucker Carlson Jen Rubin; every time Tucker challenged her on her asinine statements she started shuffling through a huge stack of papers like an insane hoarder pushing a grocery cart around. For someone who used to be an attorney for Whoreyweird studios, she has no sense of how to present herself on camera. Or just doesn't care.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2017 03:06 PM (y7DUB)

These documents I hold in my hand will lead to the impeachment of Donald Trump.

By the end of next year, Jen Rubin will be handing out mimeographed anti-Trump screeds on the street corner.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 30, 2017 03:09 PM (4ErVI)

271 Careful guys. Too many of you start criticizing his comments and little Maxie will accuse you of labeling him Emmanuel Goldstein.

Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2017 02:45 PM (cAnNx)


Yeah, MaXie is a one note troll, with much love for Banana Splits.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:09 PM (2FqvZ)

272 The Iranian protests are due to Melina Trump cutting down the sacred Magnolia tree at the White House.


In fairness, it was the 17th most holy site in Islam.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:09 PM (WbIyz)

273 265 Apricots and Dates!

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 02:53 PM (vV/gB)

And some of those Iranian wimmenz are pretty hot. You can keep the apricots.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2017 03:08 PM (d6iST)

I dated one briefly. As Woody Allen once wrote "she had a body that described a set of parabolas that could cause a cardiac arrest in a yak!"

Mean body. *wistful sigh of boners past*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:10 PM (mbhDw)

274
The Free Beacon MSNBC year-end summary linked in the sidebar has a clip of Kasie Hunt gleeful over Rand Paul getting shot

Huh?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2017 03:10 PM (IqV8l)

275 It appears Maxie has minimized after making his ill-considered wager offer. Perhaps he should stick to MMA.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 03:10 PM (LAe3v)

276 I wonder what Valerie Jarrett has to say about this? Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

We already told you.

Posted by: CNN: Lovingly Ironing Obama's Pant-Crease at December 30, 2017 03:10 PM (Ndje9)

277 274
The Free Beacon MSNBC year-end summary linked in the sidebar has a clip of Kasie Hunt gleeful over Rand Paul getting shot

Huh?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2017 03:10 PM (IqV8l)

Shot / Tackled

220 221

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 30, 2017 03:11 PM (2DOZq)

278 262
Better than the shopping on the Gaza strip.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 30, 2017 03:07 PM (lKyWE)


As that Muslim pubic hairdo?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:11 PM (mbhDw)

279 just wonderin about CNN?

=====

There are 15 (fifteen! of the 17!) other 'intelligence' agencies who need love. CNN wants to provide for them. All 17 is too much, but they can handle 15. /s

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 30, 2017 03:11 PM (MIKMs)

280 CNN is now reporting that the protests are strictly over food and gas prices.

Sure thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)


========

There are other ways CNN could spin this. From wikipedia's article on the 2009 movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Green_Movement

Background to the protests

The office of the President in Iran is considered the second powerful position in the country as it is granted significant power. Since 2005, Iran was led by Conservative Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who served as Tehran mayor before being elected as President.[7] Ahmadinejad's name was associated with the profound human rights violations in the country, particularly with the use of violence. The list of these violations included the increased level of death penalty and problems with LGBT rights.



So that's the other angle CNN could employ in order to bias coverage in favor of the protestors and against the government. They could say, "The Iranian government are conservative homophobes, just like Trump and his ilk. The average Iranian, being liberal and pro-gay, have been alarmed by the rise of Trump and so the protests against their own government are actually a backlash upon what they see as the oppression and bigotry of the Trump regime".

So many ways to spin this. It must make them giddy with the possibilities.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 30, 2017 03:11 PM (/qEW2)

281 Hi, baldilocks. Long time.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 02:48 PM (6gGph)
---Happy New Year!

Posted by: baldilocks at December 30, 2017 03:11 PM (SIP8o)

282 260 I wonder what Valerie Jarrett has to say about this?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 03:06 PM (arhmY)

She's cursing a blue streak in Farsi.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 03:12 PM (NWiLs)

283 Maxiepad, BSG (who 'pedals' outrage), Jen Rubin...all make their home on the Garden Thread. Why? They're PLANTS!

Posted by: kakisto, slayin' all day at December 30, 2017 03:12 PM (AJwk0)

284 There are 15 (fifteen! of the 17!) other 'intelligence' agencies who need love. CNN wants to provide for them. All 17 is too much, but they can handle 15. /s


The Sandra Fluke of Cable News.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:12 PM (WbIyz)

285 255
'MaXie', btw is a big banana splits supporter. The divisive, argumentative one who has already been banned once.
The sheets are coming off.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:01 PM (

Ha! he's a returnee too. Maet banned him for threatening me. when Maet retired, somebody let him back in.

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (B3iHx)

286 They are getting desperate.

Posted by: JackStraw


Steiner will come.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (LAe3v)

287 >>>274
The Free Beacon MSNBC year-end summary linked in the sidebar has a clip of Kasie Hunt gleeful over Rand Paul getting shot

Huh?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2017 03:10 PM (IqV8l)

Sorry!!! Assaulted. Bad bad slip there.

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (6gGph)

288 he started shuffling through a huge stack of papers like an insane hoarder pushing a grocery cart around

LOL, Well, at least it's good to get some black humor from her carryings-on.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (8+Ozj)

289 Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:09 PM (2FqvZ)

Like attracting like I suppose.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (NWiLs)

290 That sounds really interesting. Is that in the current issue of Military History? I gave up on them about 10 years ago.
Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 02:54 PM (ANIFC)
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It's the March 2018 edition (from the future!). Couldn't get an online link to the article.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (qJtVm)

291 Goolag Tucker Carlson Jen Rubin; every time Tucker challenged her on her asinine statements she started shuffling through a huge stack of papers like an insane hoarder pushing a grocery cart around.

-------

At least she didn't wave around a binder with "Tucker Carlson's Big Book of Lies" scrawled on the cover.

Looking at you, Kurt Eichenwald.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (ANIFC)

292 MaXiE is BSG? If so, he's not a one note-guy. He's alsol has theological concerns in that persona..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (8+Ozj)

293 Baldilocks!

*waves*

Happy New Year!

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (NWiLs)

294 285 Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (B3iHx)


I can state with certainty that a number of problematic commenters are on very thin ice with the Cobs. And that is all I will say.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (mbhDw)

295 baldilocks!


(standard AOSHQ salutation to long-gone beloved Hordeniks)


And Happy New Year to you too!

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (iynDC)

296 Ha! he's a returnee too. Maet banned him for threatening me. when Maet retired, somebody let him back in.

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (B3iHx)



Nah he was back before then.

Typically talking shit and whining about the ONT in the morning thread. And crying about how people were being mean to Moo Moo.

Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (cAnNx)

297 Somewhere the former reporters of Pravda are proud

Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (aC6Sd)

298 I can state with certainty that a number of problematic commenters are on very thin ice with the Cobs. And that is all I will say.


Geez guys, I'm standing right here.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (WbIyz)

299 First the CNN blaming Trump for Iran's intransigence.

Then the comments

http://tinyurl.com/yal4fd8x

on this op-ed on GMOs:

http://tinyurl.com/ycpff3fz (goes to WaPo).

In light of these, I am now officially stupided out for a while.

My favorite comment was by the retard that said:

"Monsanto and the like are not going to offer up what they are inserting into what they are working on b/c they are interested in patents & profits."

Apparently, he does not know what the word "patent" means. Nor does he know that to get a patent you must disclose fully exactly what you did on which you wish to get a patent.

Inventor: "I'd like to get a patent on something I just did."

Patent examiner: "OK, what is it?"

Inventor: "I can't tell you."

Patent examiner: "OK, no problem. Here's your patent."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (WmqYl)

300 297 Somewhere the former reporters of Pravda are proud
Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (aC6Sd)


Now that I think on it, Vladimir Posner reminds me of Average Joe.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:16 PM (mbhDw)

301 How the hell is gas so expensive in Iran?

The food thing -- yes.

Petroleum products too expensive?

Sounds like they are pilfering the profits for the nuclear program.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 03:16 PM (arhmY)

302 Now that I think on it, Vladimir Posner reminds me of Average Joe.


Is he still alive? Well, either of them actually.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:17 PM (WbIyz)

303 Inventor: "I'd like to get a patent on something I just did."

Patent examiner: "OK, what is it?"

Inventor: "I can't tell you."

Patent examiner: "OK, no problem. Here's your patent."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (WmqYl)

A slight variation of this dialogue is how I got out of a murder charge.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 30, 2017 03:17 PM (4ErVI)

304 298 Geez guys, I'm standing right here.
Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (WbIyz)

Not you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:17 PM (mbhDw)

305 294 I can state with certainty that a number of problematic commenters are on very thin ice with the Cobs. And that is all I will say.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (mbhDw)

then i'm probably toast because i'm "mean".

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 03:17 PM (B3iHx)

306 Working on-air for CNN must be painful. No matter how much money you make, no matter how well-liked you are by your colleagues, no matter how many invites you receive to the "right" cocktail parties, you still have to live with the knowledge that every time you stand before a mirror, you are gazing into the eyes of a complete and total fraud.

Real journalists don't shriek, "No, no, no, no, no!" a dozen times when people are commenting on facts your network refuses to report.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 30, 2017 03:17 PM (VDbGO)

307 NYT is now pushing a story that the Russia collusion investigation was actually started not by the phony Russia collusion dossier or corrupt agents at the FBI of equally corrupt lawyers at the DOJ but by a drunken conversation between George Papadopolus. They are getting desperate. Posted by: JackStraw

Yeah, I saw that, too. It won't work. But nice try.

You've got to give this much to the Professional Liars; they are relentless. They've thought of ten different ways to lie about Trump before most of us have swallowed a cup of coffee. Its now All Agit/Prop, All the Time.

True pros.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 30, 2017 03:18 PM (Ndje9)

308 pep @286 -


Wenck! Wenck! Not Steiner!


(Steiner effectively ignored the Fuhrerbunker order; Wenck had more resources and gave it the old college try, but quickly re-oriented towards getting displaced people - and those in uniform - towards the west, away from You Know Who)

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:18 PM (iynDC)

309 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (mbhDw)

Release the Zamboni !

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 30, 2017 03:18 PM (2DOZq)

310 Inventor: "I'd like to get a patent on something I just did."

Patent examiner: "OK, what is it?"

Inventor: "I can't tell you."

Patent examiner: "OK, no problem. Here's your patent."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (WmqYl)

Don't get me started on software patents.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 30, 2017 03:18 PM (T71PA)

311 301 How the hell is gas so expensive in Iran?

The food thing -- yes.

Petroleum products too expensive?

Sounds like they are pilfering the profits for the nuclear program.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 03:16 PM (arhmY)


Believe it or not, they only have one refinery. They used to have none until President you-know-who sent over all the money and they built one with it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:18 PM (mbhDw)

312 And crying about how people were being mean to Moo Moo.

Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (cAnNx
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we were mean to him only because he paid us to be that way...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 30, 2017 03:19 PM (HbNSs)

313 Cossacks in Djibouti

***

Better see a doctor to get them removed

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (h1jJh)

314 >>Ha! he's a returnee too. Maet banned him for threatening me. when Maet retired, somebody let him back in.

Don't worry, we got your back. Or front.

If there's one thing that unites morons it is the defense of bodacious tatas.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (/tuJf)

315 MaXiE is BSG? If so, he's not a one note-guy. He's alsol has theological concerns in that persona..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (8+Ozj)

Not the same guy. MaXiE, formerly known as DaVe, or some variant, is OK on some subjects, but he seems to have a persecution complex.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (d6iST)

316
Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:09 PM (2FqvZ)



Also known as the Crew Clutch Clan

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (lKyWE)

317
if Shadow Government ops are indeed coordinating pro-mullah propaganda with their bedmates in the Ministry of Truth, I would say there is good cause for treason charges

Something I hope that Trump takes into consideration on reckoning day

Posted by: Grad School Fool at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (swEzU)

318
Wenck! Wenck!

Nudge nudge

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (IqV8l)

319 297 Somewhere the former reporters of Pravda are proud
Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (aC6Sd)


See my #90.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (sdi6R)

320 Real journalists don't shriek, "No, no, no, no, no!" a dozen times when
people are commenting on facts your network refuses to report.


You assume this bozo would know how a real journalist would behave.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (LAe3v)

321 The left is not for freedom of any kind, not even the sexual freedom they espoused. Obama is of the Left so he us against freedom. MSM is of the Left so they are against freedom.

The proof is the entire Obama presidency where freedom became more endangered all over the world because he planned it so.

If Trump did nothing at all and just golfed the world will be a better place.

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (/3+Sg)

322 JJ, I promise I'll never do it again.


And I was misinterpreted.


Hey, I joined the party before the seizure of power!


I never really meant what I said, that was for domestic consumption!


Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:21 PM (iynDC)

323 If you look at paintings of what corn and watermelon looked like we completely changed them same with bananas. How big were cows, these people are so stupid.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 30, 2017 03:21 PM (dKiJG)

324 HARELIP! HARELIP!

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:21 PM (WbIyz)

325
I can state with certainty that a number of problematic commenters are on very thin ice with the Cobs. And that is all I will say.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (mbhDw)

+++

Uh-oh.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 30, 2017 03:21 PM (tcwn1)

326 Ha! he's a returnee too. Maet banned him for threatening me. when Maet retired, somebody let him back in.

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (B3iHx)


So both Maet and CBD banned his ass? Maybe it's time Ace pulled the plug. For good.

IIRC, Maet got tired of babysitting the shit-stirrers. Why not just throw the shit-strirrer(s) out?

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:21 PM (2FqvZ)

327 Looking at you, Kurt Eichenwald.

Posted by: Recently-discovered Giant Pre-Historic Squid at December 30, 2017 03:21 PM (Ndje9)

328 Not the same guy. MaXiE, formerly known as DaVe, or some variant, is OK on some subjects, but he seems to have a persecution complex.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (d6iST)



Oh now you've gone and done it. You've just doxed him!

Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2017 03:21 PM (cAnNx)

329 Then the comments

http://tinyurl.com/yal4fd8x

on this op-ed on GMOs:

http://tinyurl.com/ycpff3fz (goes to WaPo).

Gregor Mendel weeps.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 03:23 PM (NWiLs)

330 he seems to have a persecution complex.


He's Rothbardian?

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:23 PM (WbIyz)

331 Steiner will come.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 03:13 PM (LAe3v)

Mein Furor Steiner....

Posted by: Hitler Meme fan at December 30, 2017 03:23 PM (U5Xeq)

332 It is really heartening to have a leader like Trump who supports freedom not just for himself, a la Obama, but for everyone.

The Middle East shows us in a stark contrast the differences of the two presidencies.

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 03:23 PM (/3+Sg)

333 314 Don't worry, we got your back. Or front.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 03:20 PM (/

if grimmy breaks out the purple drank on new years, there could very well be fresh front lol

Posted by: bebe's boobs boobs destroy at December 30, 2017 03:23 PM (hscyr)

334 Working on-air for CNN must be painful. No matter how much money you
make, no matter how well-liked you are by your colleagues, no matter how
many invites you receive to the "right" cocktail parties, you still
have to live with the knowledge that every time you stand before a
mirror, you are gazing into the eyes of a complete and total fraud.


It is my observation that most high-achieving people at one time or another have experienced "imposter syndrome", in which they assume they're a fraud, and will sooner or later be exposed. It's a strong motivator to up one's game.

The difference is that people who work for CNN really are frauds, and lack the self-awareness to know it.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 03:24 PM (LAe3v)

335 I can state with certainty that a number of problematic commenters are on very thin ice with the Cobs. And that is all I will say.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (mbhDw)


Ha! I was wondering why someone was sleeping a couple hours later in the morning before appearing in the 'Art Thread'.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:24 PM (2FqvZ)

336 And some of those Iranian wimmenz are pretty hot. You can keep the apricots.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Years ago my parents had neighbors who were from Iran. They came here because they didn't like the extremist Muslim stuff. The women liked to look good. They never referred to themselves as Iranian, they were Persians.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 30, 2017 03:24 PM (+lVUW)

337 Oh now you've gone and done it. You've just doxed him!

Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2017 03:21 PM (cAnNx)

Yep. Narrowed him down to one of the 93,547 guys named "Dave" who live in greater L.A.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2017 03:24 PM (d6iST)

338 Somewhere Bibi is waxing a Schadenboner

Posted by: Voter Dude at December 30, 2017 03:25 PM (U5Xeq)

339 Yep. Narrowed him down to one of the 93,547 guys named "Dave" who live in greater L.A.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2017 03:24 PM (d6iST)

Dave's not here.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 03:25 PM (NWiLs)

340
156 137 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year.
Hope to God I'm wrong.
Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (9TR2V

I don't think we could normalize trade that soon after a democratic revolution. Widespread boot imports could cause disruption in the local economy.
Who knows, maybe there is a critical shortage of purple go-go boots amongst the people and it is a humanitarian crisis.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 30, 2017 03:25 PM (e1mEI)

341 I avoid intra-Horde personal spats and unpleasantness like Obama avoids honest work, but AOP's take on MAxIE is pretty solid here (as would be expected).


Since I've crossed the rubicon, I appreciate buzzion's archivist and "president pro tempore" role in the Horde. For a dead guy, very handy institutional memory who can provide historical context.


Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:26 PM (iynDC)

342 335 I can state with certainty that a number of problematic commenters are on very thin ice with the Cobs. And that is all I will say.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (mbhDw)
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Blood will flow.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 03:26 PM (vV/gB)

343 Trump pushed Obama down the well already.

Posted by: Things we saw at December 30, 2017 03:26 PM (sgGDX)

344 318
Wenck! Wenck!

Nudge nudge


Bob's your uncle.

Posted by: Monty Python at December 30, 2017 03:26 PM (arhmY)

345 but he seems to have a persecution complex.
--------------

He's been acting kooky for years, like 4 or 5 years. I don't remember what happened but it was on an ONT a long while ago.

Posted by: John Marston at December 30, 2017 03:27 PM (SkuXa)

346 Just arriving. Are you telling me that theres shit-stirring upthread? And that I have to read 350+ comments to find out who's at risk?

Posted by: RI Red - Expert on everything expert at December 30, 2017 03:27 PM (yknOn)

347 "Somewhere the former reporters of Pravda are proud"

=======

Comrade not proud, envious. We had glorious future and western capitalist media takes future away. In USSA you future is glorious, GLORIOUS!!!!

Posted by: PRAVDA at December 30, 2017 03:27 PM (3BFzK)

348 Blood will flow.

Posted by: Puddin Head


How about spears? Will they be shaken? Will shields be shattered?

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 03:27 PM (LAe3v)

349 335 I can state with certainty that a number of problematic commenters are on very thin ice with the Cobs. And that is all I will say.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:14 PM (mbhDw)

Ha! I was wondering why someone was sleeping a couple hours later in the morning before appearing in the 'Art Thread'.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at December 30, 2017 03:24 PM (2FqvZ)


I avoid him at all costs if/when he does.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:28 PM (mbhDw)

350

Wood eye!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2017 03:28 PM (IqV8l)

351 Inventor: "I'd like to get a patent on something I just did."



Patent examiner: "OK, what is it?"



Inventor: "I can't tell you."



Patent examiner: "OK, no problem. Here's your patent."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:15 PM (WmqYl)



Don't get me started on software patents.



Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF?

Yeah, a client of mine was just awarded a patent that was not software related. I said it sounded as fun as dousing yourself with gasoline and then setting yourself on fire. He added "yes, it was exactly like that, however, I needed to have fire blanket handy so I could put the fire out and then set myself on fire again."

Posted by: shibumi at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (aT+Bx)

352 CNN in particular, and the media as a whole, are going that extra mile to show the world that they will not stand or even report on anything they do not support.

Do they realise that passengers at airports are not looking at screens showing CNNN's lies? People are checking the news on their phones from almost every other source.

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (/3+Sg)

353 Years ago my parents had neighbors who were from Iran. They came here because they didn't like the extremist Muslim stuff. The women liked to look good. They never referred to themselves as Iranian, they were Persians.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 30, 2017 03:24 PM (+lVUW)

-------------------------

Have a nephew who's married to a nice Persian lady. The girl couldn't be more LA CA type if if she tried.

Posted by: Blake at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (WEBkv)

354 329 Then the comments

http://tinyurl.com/yal4fd8x

on this op-ed on GMOs:

http://tinyurl.com/ycpff3fz (goes to WaPo).

Gregor Mendel weeps.
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 03:23 PM (NWiLs)


Amazing, aren't they?

Leftists seem always for choice to go in for ad hominem attacks, alleging financial considerations as the motive for anyone pointing out the flaws in their "reasoning." That, plus invoking - but not citing - "studies" that, mirabile dictu, perfectly support their contention, despite being obvious rubbish, if they exist at all.

(I love the guy who said that "ethical independent scientists [aka 'crackpots'] were systematically ignored.")

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (WmqYl)

355 Years ago my parents had neighbors who were from Iran. They came here
because they didn't like the extremist Muslim stuff. The women liked to
look good. They never referred to themselves as Iranian, they were
Persians.
=====

Iranian jewish family I knew fled the country after '79 -- some were already here. Everybody made it out quickly except for the patriarch, who was some high-up in their congress. He had to literally trek over the mountains. Took him two years.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (MIKMs)

356 Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 03:25 PM (NWiLs)

Can you believe Chong is turning 80 years old .

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (2DOZq)

357 Looks like the draft eligible QBs are all trying to hurt their status so as to not get drafted by Cleveland. Can't say I blame them.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 03:30 PM (gC2IV)

358 We're popular with the people that matter.

Posted by: CNN at December 30, 2017 03:30 PM (xwvEL)

359 Rocket surgeon convention:

BetteMidler@BetteMidler
A New Year. 3 more to go! Let's try to remember what our country was like before we were hijacked by this cretin and his villainous crew.

ROSIE@Rosie
we wont survive 3 more ...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 03:31 PM (+y/Ru)

360 pets nood

Posted by: m at December 30, 2017 03:31 PM (6gGph)

361 Progressive fascists do relate to fundamentalist Islamic mullah fascists. Six of one and half dozen of the other. They are simpatico and are going to be upset to see any diminution of power (or public hangings) for their pals.

Posted by: Lester at December 30, 2017 03:31 PM (LfJIn)

362 State Dept. on Iran.

https://twitter.com/statedeptspox/status/946886912446488583

Posted by: geoffb at December 30, 2017 03:32 PM (zOpu5)

363 Somewhere Bibi is waxing a Schadenboner
Posted by: Voter Dude at December 30, 2017 03:25 PM (U5Xeq)
---
This made me think of Israelis and airstrips, which reminded me of the new movie coming out, 7 Days in Entebbe.

"StudioCanal optioned the rights to "Operation Thunderbolt: Flight 139 and the Raid on Entebbe Airport, the Most Audacious Hostage Rescue Mission in History" (published December 1, 2015), by Saul David. The book contains information that had previously not been available for books written about "Operation Thunderbolt", due to classification and security reasons."

I saw the previews and it looks pretty good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 30, 2017 03:32 PM (qJtVm)

364 Pet thread.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2017 03:32 PM (LAe3v)

365 I wouldn't worry about CNN in Airports. Most people hate airlines, airports and CNN after a flight. I should also state, everyone hates Delta.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 03:32 PM (vV/gB)

366
137 Tell ya what I'll bet you a dollar we'll have boots on the ground in Iran this time next year. Hope to God I'm wrong. Posted by: MAxIE at December 30, 2017 02:47 PM (9TR2V


I'll take that bet.I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell of that happening under a Trump administration.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 30, 2017 03:33 PM (lKyWE)

367 Yeah, a client of mine was just awarded a patent that was not software related. I said it sounded as fun as dousing yourself with gasoline and then setting yourself on fire. He added "yes, it was exactly like that, however, I needed to have fire blanket handy so I could put the fire out and then set myself on fire again."
Posted by: shibumi at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (aT+Bx)
--------------------------

Yeah, I did some patent research for an idea I had many years ago. Found out if your idea is readily duplicated, a patent is merely a license for someone else to steel your idea.

Best trademark, copyright and defend trademark vigorously and once the copycats show up, you are the "original."

Posted by: Blake at December 30, 2017 03:33 PM (WEBkv)

368 Ok, targeting is officially the dumbest rule in football. Fucking stupid. Guy lowers his shoulder to hit runner. Runner lowers his head, causing helmet to helmet hit. Defensive guy gets thrown out of game. Dumb.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2017 03:33 PM (gC2IV)

369 Can you believe Chong is turning 80 years old .
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (2DOZq)

Barely. Weed must have life-extending properties after all.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 30, 2017 03:33 PM (NWiLs)

370 A friend of mine working at a medical college tells me his favorite foreign students are from Iran. They absolutely HATE the mullahs, they love the freedoms we take for granted, and they have no desire to return to Iran in its current state.

Don't know what it is about "liberals." From covering up Stalin's deliberate starvation campaigns, to excusing the horrors of the gulag, to whitewashing the brutality of the average Islamic state, there is NO totalitarian horror that doesn't meet with their approval.

But, they'll always condemn America, won't they?

ALWAYS.

And with ZERO hesitation.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 30, 2017 03:34 PM (VDbGO)

371 There's a reason it's called "Tehran-geles".


For different reasons, Iran, like Cuba, is one place poised to explode (in a good way) if they ever manage to shake off their tyrannical, parasitic regimes.


One of the world's oldest commercial cultures - and not completely destroyed by the mullahs, by any means. An interesting case. At least for many years, parliamentary votes on economic matters were "real" (i.e., they could go either way, and you didn't know which way they'd go).


Foreign policy and obviously predominance of the clerics were off-limits, but a lot of things were not, in terms of open discussion and debate.


Odd mix. One of the most, if not THE most, dangerous and criminal global actors (clearly the winner in their weight class) for decades. But at home, by no means a thorough totalitarian system. Some important "gaps".

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:35 PM (iynDC)

372 Yeah, a client of mine was just awarded a patent that was not software related. I said it sounded as fun as dousing yourself with gasoline and then setting yourself on fire. He added "yes, it was exactly like that, however, I needed to have fire blanket handy so I could put the fire out and then set myself on fire again."
Posted by: shibumi at December 30, 2017 03:29 PM (aT+Bx)


Getting a patent with meaningful coverage* is not easy. It generally entails multiple go-arounds with the patent examiner, who typically will reject all claims out of hand, and has to be talked into granting some smaller subset of them. Think audit by IRS, with the IRS auditor playing the role of the patent examiner, and you've got the idea.

* re "meaningful coverage" I mean something non-trivial. It's easy to get a patent if you narrow the claims to the point of insignificance, e.g., claiming the process X after having eaten a pastrami sandwich on rye and washed it down with root beer.

To infringe a claim, you have to meet every limitation of the claim, so you could practice process X after eating a pastrami sandwich but washing it down with Coke, and you do not infringe.

That's what I mean by "meaningful coverage."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:35 PM (WmqYl)

373 368 Ok, targeting is officially the dumbest rule in football. Fucking stupid. Guy lowers his shoulder to hit runner. Runner lowers his head, causing helmet to helmet hit. Defensive guy gets thrown out of game. Dumb.
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The essence of American Football is how many ways can we punish defense in order to goose offense. Been that way ever since the Chicks starting watching the game.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 30, 2017 03:35 PM (vV/gB)

374 Wenck! Wenck!

Nudge nudge

Bob's your uncle.

Bada bing bada boom

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 30, 2017 03:36 PM (+y/Ru)

375 My wife remembers when at college all these kids from Iran showed up with luggage stuffed with cash fleeing Iran, One friend she knew he lost all contact with his relatives and he assumed they were all dead.

Iowa was robbed of a touchdown.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 30, 2017 03:36 PM (dKiJG)

376 "So, the CNN correspondent said this:

She continued, "A lot of nations and their populations, no matter how they feel about their governments in particular, do perceive the United States as not really having a moral leg to stand on." "

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Wearing the Palestinian scarf gives her the power to divine what everyone in the world thinks.

With a power like that you would think she would be POTUS rather than a CNN hack.

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 03:37 PM (/3+Sg)

377 I have a friend named Ario who left Iran. He runs a successful pizzeria in Upstate New York. He is a great American. He supports veterans and truly shed a tear when a local soldier was killed.

I will visit him this afternoon. I am sure he is very glad to see the people rise up in Iran against the Islamic mobsters. I am also sure that he will be saddened by the loss of life by the protestors that appears inevitable.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 30, 2017 03:38 PM (arhmY)

378 370
Don't know what it is about "liberals." From covering up Stalin's deliberate starvation campaigns, to excusing the horrors of the gulag, to whitewashing the brutality of the average Islamic state, there is NO totalitarian horror that doesn't meet with their approval.
Posted by: Sam Adams at December 30, 2017 03:34 PM (VDbGO)


And they unfailingly blame America and capitalism for the economic misery in socialist countries like Cuba, North Korea, and Venezuela.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 03:38 PM (sdi6R)

379 Rocket surgeon convention:



BetteMidler@BetteMidler

A New Year. 3 more to go! Let's try to remember what our country was
like before we were hijacked by this cretin and his villainous crew.



ROSIE@Rosie

we wont survive 3 more ...

PaulKrugman@EconomicIdiot

The markets will never recover. Tax cuts stunt economic growth and there is no way the USA will ever see3% GDP growth again. Trump is a buffoon to say GDP can go to 4%.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 30, 2017 03:38 PM (3BFzK)

380 When will the media get tired of being pathetic, predictable and putrid?

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at December 30, 2017 03:38 PM (eAMlh)

381 Well, they're right. It is Trump's fault. After Trump's election, people began to believe that it might be all right to actually tell the truth again. To call a spade a spade. To say two and two are four. To bring charges against sexual molesters because they weren't friends with the President any more. To say that allowing people to keep their own money grows the consumer market, and allowing corporations to keep their own money grows the job market. To say that Islamist supremacists are fucked in the head and should be kept out of the country for the good of its citizens. To say that minorities need the same things every other group does: jobs and stable families.

They lied to us for decades and used social pressure like "political correctness" to prevent us from telling simple truths. But the dam has broken. Their way doesn't work, and the only way they can defend it is with lies and violence. We're kicking it old-school because that's worked for millennia and not only can the snowflakes do nothing about it, but nobody is even listening to them any more.

I didn't think Trump was going to be much of a President. I thought we'd have to stumble through four years of a blowhard to prevent a venal kleptocrat from becoming President and cementing America's decline.

But the salutatory effect Trump has had on the entire world is just amazing. Saudia Arabia, Japan, China, Korea, Israel, and now Iran. Hell, our interests may not align with Putin's Russia but it's clear Putin at least respects Trump. Maybe our future is brighter than I thought. Maybe my kids will live in a free, prosperous America. And maybe we'll learn this time to tell them to go die in a fire when they try to tell us what we can't say or think.

Posted by: Viridian at December 30, 2017 03:38 PM (oXqPF)

382 "So, the CNN correspondent said this:

She continued, "A lot of nations and their populations, no matter how they feel about their governments in particular, do perceive the United States as not really having a moral leg to stand on." "


So ... kinda the way we feel about CNN. Or the entire MSM, come to that. Or Hollywood. Or academia. Or the political class generally.

Would that be about right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:39 PM (WmqYl)

383 Anonosaurus, funny thing, apparently Rosie is a friend of James Woods. Woods said nice things about her on his twatter (worth monitoring) the other day. I'm guessing they both elect to ignore their respective political profiles.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:39 PM (iynDC)

384
Nood. The Pet Thread is up for those so declined.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2017 03:40 PM (mbhDw)

385 90 Rickl interesting

Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2017 03:40 PM (aC6Sd)

386 "* re "meaningful coverage" I mean something non-trivial. It's easy to
get a patent if you narrow the claims to the point of insignificance,
e.g., claiming the process X after having eaten a pastrami sandwich on
rye and washed it down with root beer."

CORRECT!!! I never worried about patents with 20+ claims.

Now the ones with 1 or 2 claims were unbeatable.

The table patent:

A horizontal surface with a variety of means of support.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 30, 2017 03:41 PM (3BFzK)

387 Anonosaurus, funny thing, apparently Rosie is a friend of James Woods. Woods said nice things about her on his twatter (worth monitoring) the other day. I'm guessing they both elect to ignore their respective political profiles.
Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:39 PM (iynDC)


That was Roseanne Barr, not Rosie O'Donnell.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:41 PM (WmqYl)

388 >>To infringe a claim, you have to meet every limitation of the claim, so you could practice process X after eating a pastrami sandwich but washing it down with Coke, and you do not infringe.

>>That's what I mean by "meaningful coverage."

I'm actually the co-holder of two patents for streaming media distribution in wide area networks believe it or not.

1) They are an enormous pain in the ass to get

2) So what? Unless you are going to go to war to defend them they are often not worth the trouble.

I find it's much better just to drink.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 03:41 PM (/tuJf)

389 363 Somewhere Bibi is waxing a Schadenboner
Posted by: Voter Dude at December 30, 2017 03:25 PM (U5Xeq)
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This made me think of Israelis and airstrips, which reminded me of the new movie coming out, 7 Days in Entebbe.

"StudioCanal optioned the rights to "Operation Thunderbolt: Flight 139 and the Raid on Entebbe Airport, the Most Audacious Hostage Rescue Mission in History" (published December 1, 2015), by Saul David. The book contains information that had previously not been available for books written about "Operation Thunderbolt", due to classification and security reasons."

I saw the previews and it looks pretty good.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 30, 2017 03:32 PM (qJtVm)

The book is good, I got the Audio version. What was left out is that Kenya allowed them to land in exchange for them to destroy the Uganda AirForce.

The MOSSAD did a fly over took pictures of the Airport.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 30, 2017 03:42 PM (dKiJG)

390 Why is Peter Noone always the goto source for some people? Herman's Hermits hasn't done much of anything since I was in High School in the mid 60s.

Posted by: geoffb at December 30, 2017 03:43 PM (zOpu5)

391 CORRECT!!! I never worried about patents with 20+ claims.

Now the ones with 1 or 2 claims were unbeatable.

The table patent:

A horizontal surface with a variety of means of support.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 30, 2017 03:41 PM (3BFzK)


Not quite what I meant. The number of claims is irrelevant. Claim structure is typically an inverted pyramid, starting with the broadest claim you think you're entitled to, and concluding with the narrowest claim(s) you think are worth bothering with.

In infringement litigation one or more of the claims may be asserted. Broad claims catch more, but may inadvertently read on the prior art, and thereby be invalidated in litigation. Ideally the patent examiner would have caught the relevant prior art, and asserted it against the claim, but they're human, working under time pressure, and sometimes miss things.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:45 PM (WmqYl)

392 Re the Midler/Rosie silliness, recently heard some people (known political ignoramus/dumbasses), in their jaunty hey-doesn't-everybody-think-this? way, express wonder that "we've made it to almost a year under Trump."


For reasons passing understanding, I suspended my firm decades-long policy of never engaging these idiots, and sheepishly asked "what do you mean. I mean, exactly what? What did you expect to happen?".


What followed was incoherent one-liner crap that jumped around, all of it nonsense. Bottom line: they had no ability to explain or support a single sentence they spout.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:45 PM (iynDC)

393 ROSIE@Rosie
we wont survive 3 more ...



Indeed. I expect Rosie to either stroke out or eat a pistol before 2020.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 03:46 PM (WbIyz)

394 "BetteMidler@BetteMidler
A New Year. 3 more to go! Let's try to remember what our country was like before we were hijacked by this cretin and his villainous crew.

ROSIE@Rosie
we wont survive 3 more ..."

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Promises, promises ...

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 03:46 PM (/3+Sg)

395 Jay, thanks!


Not showboating here - but I had/have real problems distinguishing the two Rosies, never having paid any mind to either.


And I thought/assumed *both* would be histrionic dumb***t Hollywood types, and therefore anti-Trump.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:48 PM (iynDC)

396 Let's try to remember what our country was like before we were hijacked by this cretin and his villainous crew.

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*cough*

Posted by: GDP at December 30, 2017 03:48 PM (M7eqI)

397 I'm actually the co-holder of two patents for streaming media distribution in wide area networks believe it or not.

1) They are an enormous pain in the ass to get

2) So what? Unless you are going to go to war to defend them they are often not worth the trouble.

I find it's much better just to drink.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 03:41 PM (/tuJf)


They are an enormous pain in the ass to get.

Re enforcing them, some litigators will take some infringement actions on a contingency basis (obviously if they think you have a very strong case).

And some corporations, etc. will take a license when threatened just to avoid the hassle and expense of litigation. David v. Goliath tends to engender sympathy for David by judges and juries unless David does this kind of crap routinely ("patent troll").

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:50 PM (WmqYl)

398 395 Jay, thanks!


Not showboating here - but I had/have real problems distinguishing the two Rosies, never having paid any mind to either.


And I thought/assumed *both* would be histrionic dumb***t Hollywood types, and therefore anti-Trump.
Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:48 PM (iynDC)


Me too. I remembered because I was stunned that Roseanne Barr wasn't anti-Trump. Quite the contrary, in fact.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2017 03:51 PM (WmqYl)

399 Ironically, Bette Midler's and Rosie's favorite song is Let It Go

Posted by: jsg at December 30, 2017 03:52 PM (xwvEL)

400 Interactive map of Iran protests.

https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/947183715905687552

Posted by: geoffb at December 30, 2017 03:53 PM (zOpu5)

401 I'm nearly always right when I speak ex cathedra.

I said that with Trump we'd get someone with Mad Media Skillz -- necessary for an R President right now -- and Rudy Giuliani pragmatism. Trump's doing on a bigger scale what Rudy did in NYC.

Local MSM hated on Rudy the full eight years, but he won Manhattan when he got re-elected. History can rhyme.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 30, 2017 03:53 PM (pV/54)

402 They tried this in 2008 and Omuzzie hung them out to dry.
I hope PDT is funneling them aid, and weapons, lots of weapons, Russian AK's and RPGs. Folks are getting sick of the ragheads.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 30, 2017 03:55 PM (mgCYE)

403 Trump:
"The entire world understands that the good people of Iran want change, and, other than the vast military power of the United States, that Iran's people are what their leaders fear the most...."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/947180713236934657

Posted by: geoffb at December 30, 2017 03:55 PM (zOpu5)

404 For those without sock drawers to rearrange, or electric dog polishing machines to service, apparently the sad case Bret Stephens has an op-ed up that admits to approving almost everything Trump *does*, but still hating him and wishing the dumb sociopathic criminal were president instead.


Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:56 PM (iynDC)

405 http://bit.ly/2C1IanW

Report: ESPN's John Skipper Resigned Due to Sexual Harassment Issues, Not Substance Abuse - Breitbart

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 30, 2017 03:56 PM (y3aQB)

406 "To bring charges against sexual molesters because they weren't friends with the President any more."

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That is a very astute observation, I had not thought of the timing. I just thought it was ironic that the avalanche of accusations would fall on Liberals so soon after the anti Trump pussy hats rallies.

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 03:56 PM (/3+Sg)

407 So, you're an Anti-Pope, infallible *when* you speak ex cathedra, Ignoramus?


Interesting!

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 03:57 PM (iynDC)

408 "I didn't think Trump was going to be much of a President. I thought we'd have to stumble through four years of a blowhard to prevent a venal kleptocrat from becoming President and cementing America's decline."

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I thought he would certainly give it all he had. An ego of his size would not allow him to fail. Becoming a president was not enough as that would just equal Obama, he wanted to surpass him.

Why is this so hard to understand for our "public" intelleckshuls? You would think they knew nothing of psychology and human behavior.

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 04:01 PM (/3+Sg)

409 Reports say Iranian forces have opened fire at protesters in Lorestan, Iran. Unconfirmed reports of three protesters dead. Bodies carried away by crowd.#IranProtests

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 04:02 PM (8+Ozj)

410 akkkkshuuuualllllyyyyy....the media will never get tired of being pathetic and wrong because they're experts and they willl always sit there with a confused look on face while scratching the chin wondering why people would want eye surgery by a non eye surgeon...they're experts damn you and you must be anti-intellectual not to agree with them

Posted by: internet expert at December 30, 2017 04:04 PM (V3U1L)

411 still hating him and wishing the dumb sociopathic criminal were president instead.

With Democrat politicians one needs to be a little more specific since most of them appear to dumb and/or sociopathic and/or criminal. He would have liked Hillary to be President or still wanted Obama as President?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 04:05 PM (8+Ozj)

412 Fenelon, good point, but in this case of course I meant Trump's opponent in the general election.


And each element of that pejorative description can be thoroughly documented, of course. It's not just trash talk - it's almost clinically technical and non-polemical.


Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 04:08 PM (iynDC)

413 Maxie may be a bit excitable here, but I understand the concern. No one wants to get stuck in another tarbaby war in the Middle East. As long as we can limit it to just covert operations, and whatever material support we can give, great. And there are lots of young secularists there, I wish them the best, but who knows what percent of the people support the regime and its theocratic nuttiness? I've no idea. So even though there are good people there, it could easily turn into a boondoggle if we try to send troops there. I like @132's suggestions.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 30, 2017 04:09 PM (/qEW2)

414 Times of Israel report

https://tinyurl.com/y7h2ojek

"Media coverage inside Iran focused almost exclusively on the pro-regime rallies held on Saturday..."

Haha not just inside Iran

This.Is.CNN

Posted by: jsg at December 30, 2017 04:10 PM (xwvEL)

415 Steve and Cold Bear, can we at least shoot some cruise missiles? I like cruise missiles.

Posted by: RI Red - Expert on everything expert at December 30, 2017 04:12 PM (yknOn)

416 I hope we won't go to war there, but I certainly hope we're giving covert aid of some kind to the protesters since the government is now firing on the- according to CNN "pro government"- protesters.

CNN needs to die and no, I 'm wishing no physical harm on the "reporters"-but good grief their need to stick up for BFF Obama's policies is sickening

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 04:13 PM (8+Ozj)

417 Iran is THE source of terrorism in the modern world.


Thanks Jimmah.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 04:13 PM (WbIyz)

418 And each element of that pejorative description can be thoroughly documented, of course. It's not just trash talk - it's almost clinically technical and non-polemical.

I didn't think it was pejorative. I think it's the truth.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 04:14 PM (8+Ozj)

419 also thanks George Fucking W.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 04:14 PM (WbIyz)

420 And the story is: It's Trump's fault.



Suffering shocked face exhaustion.

Not yet tired of winning, though.

Posted by: mindful webworker - "You can't spell Triumph without Trump!" at December 30, 2017 04:16 PM (VQjKe)

421 Unfortunately tottering or repressive regimes are most dangerous when the feel cornered. Expect some "incident" to rally the people 'round to Ol' Islamic Republic soon. On the bright side it may provide the opportunity for the USN to try out some new rules of engagement.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 30, 2017 04:19 PM (BsGS1)

422 >>>Barely. Weed must have life-extending properties after all.

Chong has been a fitness buff since his teens. Trained with Gironda and was at Golds pre-Arnold.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Fa La La La La La La FA LA LA LA LA LA LA at December 30, 2017 04:22 PM (ZiMuX)

423 MAxIE's concern is not understandable, given any actual familiarity with the issue, the US, history, and anything else.


The scope and nature of the internal conflict in Iran, if it becomes acute, is not suitable for conventional US military intervention, for lots of reasons. Obviously. Covert or other support is always an option.


And we haven't been in any "tar-baby" wars - this is the essence of the ignorance/misunderstanding he revealed. Our interventions were compelled by events and our own interests, they like all wars involved assessing risks and outcomes, and there's no magic time-line or cost figure to any war.


Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 04:23 PM (iynDC)

424 And what did the morning Fox shows talk about???

Tweets...

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at December 30, 2017 04:24 PM (NgKpN)

425 Grump, what did Dubya do re Iran other than not hit them nearly hard enough when given the reason/need? The sanctions regime was mostly built, and/or made more effective, during his tenure.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 04:25 PM (iynDC)

426 I have to say that ThunderB has a good twitter feed on what's going on in Iran.

https://twitter.com/ThunderB

I miss her commenting here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2017 04:30 PM (8+Ozj)

427 I'm sorry, I can't fault GWB at all regarding Iran. It was Wise King Barky who did everything in his power to prop up this murderous regime. From refusing to back the Green Revolution, to sending pallets upon pallets of unmarked international currencies, to green-lighting the Iranian nuclear program, Barky wanted his extremist Islamic buddies in Iran to rule over the whole of the Middle East.

Whatever hastens the arrival of Armageddon, right, Barky?

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 30, 2017 04:31 PM (VDbGO)

428 what did Dubya do re Iran other than not hit them nearly hard enough when given the reason/need?

He didn't hit them at all when they were killing our men with IEDs and taking over Iran.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 04:34 PM (WbIyz)

429 >>He didn't hit them at all when they were killing our men with IEDs and taking over Iran.

Somehow I don't think starting a 3rd war at that time would have been accepted very well. Anywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 04:38 PM (/tuJf)

430 Posted a Frontline Mag artical earlier that from the 650's ( thats the year) where Islam became a problem, it was the point of a sword convert.

Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2017 04:42 PM (aC6Sd)

431 Somehow I don't think starting a 3rd war at that time would have been accepted very well. Anywhere.


And so here we are.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 04:42 PM (WbIyz)

432 "I'm sorry, I can't fault GWB at all regarding Iran."

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I can and I do.

He had a responsibility to stop their nuclear expansion yet did nothing. I can understand if he didn't want to do anything during the 2008 presidential election campaign but once that was over he had more than two months and did nothing.

W was ultimately a huge disappointment.

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 04:43 PM (/3+Sg)

433 >>And so here we are.

Yep. But you might as well blame Reagan because he didn't do squat to stop their expansion either.

Everything always looks easier in hindsight.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 04:46 PM (/tuJf)

434 Everything always looks easier in hindsight.

It looked pretty clear to me at the time. Iran was supplying, and sometimes planting, the EFP that killed hundreds of our men. Bush knew where they were built and by who and did fucking nothing. Nothing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 04:50 PM (WbIyz)

435 #432,

I see your point. Just not sure what could have been done. We enjoyed 27 seconds of national unity following the attacks of September 11. After that, it was all, "Bush is Hitler!" b.s. for the next eight years. Democrats who voted in support of the Iraq War simply revised history through their lying MFM mouthpieces, proclaimed Bush a bigot and warmonger, indicted America, slandered every American soldier in harm's way, and mouthed whatever propaganda necessary to bolster America's enemies.

We are not one nation. Half of us absolutely HATE the other half, and wish to witness the complete destruction of the "United" States.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 30, 2017 04:51 PM (VDbGO)

436 and btw, those deaths and his general ineptitude during that period gave Iraq to Iran, and us to Obama.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 04:52 PM (WbIyz)

437 The Bush Family has been a curse upon America, and I voted for their asses 4 times.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 04:53 PM (WbIyz)

438 I'm going to watch a movie before I post something banworthy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) internet shut-in at December 30, 2017 04:54 PM (WbIyz)

439 "We enjoyed 27 seconds of national unity following the attacks of September 11. After that, it was all, "Bush is Hitler!" b.s. for the next eight years."

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So he had nothing to lose. What was the Left going to do? Call him Stalin?

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 04:55 PM (/3+Sg)

440 >>So he had nothing to lose. What was the Left going to do? Call him Stalin?

He wouldn't have even gotten supported here had he launched a 3rd war. I think there is some selective memory going on right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2017 05:01 PM (/tuJf)

441 Why Were There Trump-Era State Dept Emails On Anthony Weiner's Laptop ?


https://tinyurl.com/yaag4lxa

Posted by: jsg at December 30, 2017 05:05 PM (gSwpy)

442 W was ultimately a huge disappointment.
Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2017 04:43 PM (/3+Sg)

The Patriot Act and the bailouts.

I was dead set against the bailouts because I thought we needed to get things over with instead of kicking the can down the road.

With the Patriot Act, I learned a hard lesson about giving government this kind of power. The Patriot Act may not have been as malevolent under Bush, but in the hands of the completely unscrupulous, it has been.

Posted by: Blake at December 30, 2017 05:06 PM (WEBkv)

443 What do Bette Middler and Rosie O'Donnell have against Justin Trudeau?

Oh... wait.

nevermind.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 30, 2017 05:14 PM (T28di)

444 There is a lot I can fault Bush 43 for. "Islam is a religion of peace" for starters, and the open-ended wars our troops were not allowed to win. The restrictive rules of engagement so as not to hurt the Muzzies' feelz predated Obama.

Yes, we had long occupations of Germany and Japan, but that was after we had flattened them and dictated peace terms, and what their new governments should look like. Both Iraq and Afghanistan adopted constitutions which respected sharia law. That should never have been allowed, any more than letting the Nazis have a voice in the Bundestag in 1948.

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 05:17 PM (sdi6R)

445 It's the fifth-column left.

What do you expect?

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 30, 2017 05:18 PM (jWe5r)

446 Probably not worth it, as comments discussions get taken in so many different directions, but ......


Wasn't a question of a "3rd war" being "started". Iran has been at war with us since '79 - but that's not even the sense in which I mean it. The war was on in Iraq. Much could have been done that wasn't. Without a "new", or recognized, war.


Iran was operating totally covertly, that is to say quite brazenly in a "badly kept secret" sort of way. They were, and would have been, under the same muzzle if we had hit them hard - discreetly - back over the border.


But - not the case that nothing was done. Task Force Black was out hunting down "special groups" - Iranian/Pasdaran advisors/operatives - every night. Had some success. But it was a half-measure, and a squandering of the perfect opportunity to ramp up the pressure on Iran even more, and hurt them. And some here might even have had first-hand experience with the fury and frustration resulting from the lack of dramatic escalation following confirmation of Iranian fingerprints on the deadliest IEDs.


And it's pretty simplistic and unserious to blame Bush for the nuke program. His administration, as I noted earlier today, ramped up and improved the sanctions regime, and did other things, that were the most effective steps to weaken and isolate Iran since they started the war in '79.


A military solution to the nuke program was very uncertain on the practical level, obviously very dicey on the geopolitical level. So a possible path not followed, but not some obvious or easy solution that was simply ignored.


So, in summary - yes, the response to Iranian intervention in Iraq was woefully inadequate; no, it wasn't "nothing", not even close; no, doing a lot more would not have meant a new war, either politically or practically; and no, the Bush admin. cannot be reasonably blamed for the Iranian nuke progress simply because the ultimate option of a military strike was not used.


But the lights over the reloading bench need fixing, and I am not up to the quixotic task of battling a blizzard of (slightly, sometimes) erroneous premises from every possible angle, so, off I go.




Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 30, 2017 05:18 PM (iynDC)

447 442
With the Patriot Act, I learned a hard lesson about giving government this kind of power. The Patriot Act may not have been as malevolent under Bush, but in the hands of the completely unscrupulous, it has been.
Posted by: Blake at December 30, 2017 05:06 PM (WEBkv)


I was a member of the Libertarian Party back in the late 90s. The Patriot Act was a collection of measures the Libertarians had been opposing for years, all rolled up into a ball, tied with a bow, and rammed through Congress in one fell swoop because "crisis".

Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2017 05:23 PM (sdi6R)

448 I've read that U.S. Govt-sponsored Farsi language broadcasts to Iran still consist of... big doses of apology grovel for how wicked America is.

I believe Trump's election has given hope to our enemies' enemies, for whatever reason.

Posted by: strawdog at December 30, 2017 05:23 PM (Cssks)

449 So are pro-Iranian rallies the "apple" or the "orange" in their analogy?

Posted by: Stephen at December 30, 2017 06:41 PM (xnS5f)

450 akkkkshuuuualllllyyyyy....The Bush's were great because handing out American citizenship to the whole world gave us Obama and a hard blue California. I mean, you can't just thank Clinton for our new Mexified citizenry.

Posted by: internet expert at December 30, 2017 07:03 PM (V3U1L)

451 Ugh. CNN. Fuck 'em all.

Posted by: Shopgirl: #ChiefsAFCWestChamps at December 30, 2017 07:17 PM (Q8nwU)

452 Bush 43 blew that 43 seconds of unity with a lot of wearetheworld hand wringing and emotional nonsense, followed by a war against the guy who tried to kill daddy.

Bush 43 was a shit judge of advisors and far too loyal to.failures, a problem the current guy doesn't seem to have.

Posted by: JEM at December 30, 2017 07:28 PM (BSzjN)

453 I don't see any particular reason that people in the US would hold post 1979 Iran in any light but bad. We've seen far too many "death to America" protests. Perhaps after the current government is toppled, we'll reconsider. After all, their are few people more opposed to socialism than those who escaped it. Perhaps if the nation ever escapes from the rule by religious tyrants, they'll have a certain level of immunity to it for a few decades.

Posted by: DaveM at December 30, 2017 08:56 PM (WWC3Y)

454 "I can't fathom how that is considered to be legitimate 'reporting.' I don't know what to call it."

I call it projection.

Posted by: DJ at December 31, 2017 07:12 AM (rFNWv)

455 Erdbrink: #FakeBureauChief

Posted by: askeptic at December 31, 2017 11:07 AM (I5fLO)

456 201
The Left is in bed with the Mullahs because there's damn good money in
hating America. Haven't run the numbers but I'm guessing the DNC is at
least 50% funded by the Middle East.


Posted by: Mega at December 30, 2017 02:55 PM (rv0Fo)

Why do you disrespect me? Are you saying $18 Billion is chicken feed?



Posted by: George Soros at December 31, 2017 06:17 PM (UsCnO)

457 CNN's kafiyya wearing Muslima correspondent should be taken as reporting on the anti-American sentiment of the Islamofascist world, the sharia-seeking Islamic supremacists who she represents. For that I think she can be taken as knowledgeable and a spokesman. CNN should really put her status on a chryon though, labeling her "Islamofascist correspondent/spokes-Muslima."

Posted by: Alec Rawls at January 01, 2018 12:15 AM (AphMS)

458 At best, CNN is a rancid pile of leftist goat dung.

Posted by: rplat at January 01, 2018 02:47 AM (r21s9)

459 Where are the instructions from Hussein's administration for CNN to keep quiet about Iran? Like they told Trump, it's none of our business. (not)

Posted by: ConCynic at January 01, 2018 07:33 PM (KpQyq)

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