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Monday Overnight Open Thread (12/11/17) 2 Weeks 'Til Christmas Edition

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(Fire. Drink. ONT. Life is good.)

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Quotes of The Day

Quote I

"Isn't food important? Why not 'universal food coverage'? If politicians had given us 'universal food access' 20 years ago, today Democrats would be wailing about the 'food crisis' in America, and you'd be on the phone with your food-care provider arguing about whether or not a Reuben sandwich with fries is covered under your plan." Ann Coulter

Quote II

“A man can no more diminish God’s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word ‘darkness’ on the walls of his cell.” C.S. Lewis

Quote III

That is the reality of the custodial state. The people in charge see themselves as your caretakers, like a baby sitter or care giver. In reality though, you are their slave, because like a slave, you no longer control your body. They control where it is and what it is permitted to do. In this particular case. the state is trying to force this baker to perform his services for the homosexuals. The efforts to punish him are no different from a slave master flogging a runaway slave. It’s to send a message to the rest of the slaves. The Zman

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I've never lost a child. I can't imagine the grief in losing one as the Sandy Hook parents did. However, the blame lies with Adam Lanza and not Remington Arms and Bushmaster Firearms.

He and family members of other victims have filed a unique lawsuit against the gun manufacturers of the AR-15, the powerful semi-automatic assault rifle that allowed Lanza to carry out his rampage so quickly and with such lethal capability. They claim the manufacturers, Remington Arms and Bushmaster Firearms, bear responsibility for the massacre.

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After intense lobbying from the National Rifle Association, Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005. Under the law, manufacturers cannot be held accountable when one of their weapons is used in a crime or mass shooting.

However, the law allows for a sliver of wiggle room if the plaintiffs can prove “negligent entrustment.” In this case, the legal term means proving the manufacturers were reckless in that they knew they were selling deadly weapons and looking for violent young men as customers.

Remington and Bushmaster did nothing wrong. Adam Lanza did. Period. End of story. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. Unfortunately, that is life.

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The United States has an opioid crisis. Should the US copy Portugal's drug policy?

In 2001, nearly two decades into Pereira’s accidental specialisation in addiction, Portugal became the first country to decriminalise the possession and consumption of all illicit substances. Rather than being arrested, those caught with a personal supply might be given a warning, a small fine, or told to appear before a local commission – a doctor, a lawyer and a social worker – about treatment, harm reduction, and the support services that were available to them.
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It is important to note that Portugal stabilised its opioid crisis, but it didn’t make it disappear. While drug-related death, incarceration and infection rates plummeted, the country still had to deal with the health complications of long-term problematic drug use. Diseases including hepatitis C, cirrhosis and liver cancer are a burden on a health system that is still struggling to recover from recession and cutbacks. In this way, Portugal’s story serves as a warning of challenges yet to come.

Despite enthusiastic international reactions to Portugal’s success, local harm-reduction advocates have been frustrated by what they see as stagnation and inaction since decriminalisation came into effect. They criticise the state for dragging its feet on establishing supervised injection sites and drug consumption facilities; for failing to make the anti-overdose medication naloxone more readily available; for not implementing needle-exchange programmes in prisons. Where, they ask, is the courageous spirit and bold leadership that pushed the country to decriminalise drugs in the first place?

A rather long read. But, certainly an interesting read and thought provoking one as well.

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In 2016 it cost $50,224 in tuition and fees to attend Brown University. Brown a private Ivy League school is eliminating Student Loans.

Amid America’s colossal student debt problem, an Ivy League school is providing an example of how institutions can help.

Beginning next school year, Brown University will eliminate all student loans in its undergraduate financial aid packages, replacing them with scholarships.

Following a $30 million fundraising effort launched in September, Brown administrators announced this week that 2,087 donors contributed toward the goal, and that the school, located in Providence, Rhode Island, plans to raise $90 million more to sustain the scholarship giving.

So, when do you public universities follow suit?

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Did not see this coming. Impeached judge becomes congress critter and then gets into more trouble.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT A FEDERAL JUDGE IMPEACHED FOR CORRUPTION WOULD MISBEHAVE IF ELECTED TO CONGRESS? Another Congressional Victim Comes Forward – This Time With A $200,000 Settlement.. “It just won’t stop. The latest congressional harassment case to hit the news involves Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) and a former staff member of a congressional commission. The twist in this story is that the woman wasn’t a congressional staffer but congressional employee. She was a member of the Helsinki Commission – a congressional commission that promotes international human rights. Oh, the irony. . . . Her settlement wasn’t included in the payments released by the Office of Compliance, interestingly enough.”

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The ONT Musical Interlude



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Shoe0nHead, an interesting take on Chromosome Crusaders. Of course NSFW

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Sometimes the best of intentions still results in being declared Genius Award Winner.

This is the second major residential fire in two weeks set by someone trying to kill bedbugs, according to the Cincinnati Fire Department.

Fire officials have a word of advice for anyone wanting to get rid of the persistent pests:

"Get a professional," Freel said.

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Falling off the wagon, Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

The man was bleeding from his wrist and asked Wang to drive him to the tallest mountain in the area so he could kill himself, the report said.

The quick-thinking driver decided to try to halt the attempt, but pretended that he also wanted to take his own life.

He then suggested that the pair should have a drink on the mountain first and bought several bottles of baijiu and two bottles of beer.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Creative Gift Giving.

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:03 PM




Comments

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1

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 09:59 PM (vUcdz)

2 Finally, Christmas comes to Santa!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2017 09:59 PM (qJtVm)

3 Greyout

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:00 PM (GsAUU)

4 Thirst!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 11, 2017 10:00 PM (e9G8E)

5 Evening, Horde! Nice ONT, MisHum. Is that glass of wine for me?

Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:00 PM (za7hD)

6 Wow! What a cookbook.

I am overwhelmed by the amazing cooking being conducted by the Horde. Again, thank you Bluebell, Weasel and all contributors.

When I viewed the cookbook on Amazon today, the item listed in *What other items do customers buy after viewing this item?* was Visual Guide to Lock Picking.

Of course.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 11, 2017 10:01 PM (tr2D7)

7 1st

Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:01 PM (za7hD)

8 A rather long read. But, certainly an interesting read and thought provoking one as well.


--Bookmarked.

Rare to find anything worth reading in The Guardian.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:02 PM (GsAUU)

9 5 Evening, Horde! Nice ONT, MisHum. Is that glass of wine for me?
Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:00 PM (za7hD

Drink away

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:02 PM (3/sUh)

10 I hit refresh and I was all alone there for a minute.

No ONT, nothing but the Title Bar.

It was lonely.

Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:02 PM (za7hD)

11 Concerning the opioid crisis in Portugal, I've read that they simply don't keep stats that rigorously.

Ultimately, I think that whatever you fund you get more of.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2017 10:03 PM (qJtVm)

12
The corgis, they have been called.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 10:03 PM (vgMfV)

13 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Creative Gift Giving.


--So glad I was not eating or drinking anything when I saw that.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:03 PM (GsAUU)

14 European Christianity as Cultural Cosplay

Some attribute the rise of Islam, and before that the faith in the state, to the apostasy or even weakness of Christianity in these "modern" times and its inability to fit in with [CURRENT YEAR]. The truth of the matter is that by and large, Christian churches--especially the state established churches--are not Christian, but merely "cultural Christians" whose leadership effectively participates in religious cosplay.

http://politicalhat.com/?p=14209

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2017 10:03 PM (itfg0)

15 Food is more of a necessity than medical stuff (usually).

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2017 10:04 PM (IqV8l)

16 When I viewed the cookbook on Amazon today, the item listed in *What other items do customers buy after viewing this item?* was Visual Guide to Lock Picking.

Of course.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 11, 2017 10:01 PM (tr2D7)


*SIGH*

Posted by: royalme lace wigs at December 11, 2017 10:04 PM (GsAUU)

17 I'm pretty sure my teachers were the reason I drank. Without Jack Daniels, I would have never made it through kindergarten.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:05 PM (UrSUC)

18 Fire officials have a word of advice for anyone wanting to get rid of the persistent pests:

"Get a professional," Freel said.
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Okay, but I don't understand how a professional arsonist will help the situation.

Not that I don't know any.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 11, 2017 10:05 PM (tr2D7)

19 top eleventy

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at December 11, 2017 10:06 PM (IYHxL)

20 >> Why not 'universal food coverage'?

Nice, but Ms Coulter's about 5 years late to the party:

http://insureblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/grocery-insurance.html

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:06 PM (vUcdz)

21 You know, I think the morons here are a little short on culture. Perhaps some bittersweet science fiction poetry courtesy of C.S. Lewis could cure that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZIOAFrbeA4&list=PLW-4X-flRYwBhRHy01hK_oUqJsncivTF5&index=18

Posted by: Zaklog the Great at December 11, 2017 10:07 PM (RtqaM)

22 Feel good story - baijiu. Koreans - the irish of asia.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 10:07 PM (fA1SL)

23 Interesting article: Chicago's Terry Kath: Inside the Life and Tragic Death of an Unsung Guitar Hero

http://rol.st/2BC6Kj0


Posted by: Michael the Texan at December 11, 2017 10:07 PM (nvMvs)

24 Falling off the wagon. Falling off the mountain.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2017 10:07 PM (IqV8l)

25 22. Wait. Baijiu = Han. Soju = Korean.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 10:08 PM (fA1SL)

26 20 >> Why not 'universal food coverage'?

Nice, but Ms Coulter's about 5 years late to the party:

http://insureblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/grocery-insurance.html

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:06 PM (vUcdz)

It's an old quote ibguy.
Not everything here is fresh.

But, I heart Ann Coulter

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:08 PM (3/sUh)

27 We have plenty of culture. We have art every day, a chess thread, a book thread, and lots more.

There isn't enough eggnog, however.

Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:08 PM (za7hD)

28 And Thanks, MisHum, for another fun-filled ONT!

Love the teacher's gift.

(And my first *First*'in quite a while)

Baby Sister Update follows.

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:08 PM (vUcdz)

29 windy as hell here. colder than nazi pelosis' right tit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:08 PM (KP5rU)

30 Most Ivy League schools could probably pay for the tuituob of all their undergrads just from the interest of their endowments.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:08 PM (UrSUC)

31 Baby Sister Update

Spoke with Joyce this morning.

She's miserable, the Optune device is really messing with her thinking, etc.. Doesn't want to continue.

I sympathized, was hoping that she'd get used to it, but it's her life, her choice.

Not sure what's next.

Please pray for clarity for her.

[Horde: To my fellow Hordelings, thank you all in advance for your prayers and well-wishes for my sister and her family]

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:09 PM (vUcdz)

32 Not first
Not last

Somewhere in the twilight of the ONT

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 11, 2017 10:09 PM (S6Pax)

33 Prayers for Joyce of course Ibguy and all on Slap's list.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 11, 2017 10:09 PM (tr2D7)

34
The truth of the matter is that by and large, Christian churches--especially the state established churches--are not Christian, but merely "cultural Christians" whose leadership effectively participates in religious cosplay.

Nice gods get melted down. Just joined a Traditional Catholic parish for that reason, even though I am likely to pay a price. I could tell that Mass was a serious matter the congregation took seriously.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 10:11 PM (vgMfV)

35 Mr. H set all my Christmas displays on timers, and they are all going off now.


Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:11 PM (za7hD)

36 Thanks for the ONT.

"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." C.S. Lewis

I do not have much to add but THIS. If CS Lewis was alive today, I would follow him on twitter and be THAT GUY.

As far as the opiod crisis and Portugal's answer. My point is there is a difference between drug decriminalization- and drug facilitation by the government. It seems what they argue in the blurb is the latter, not the former. I am in slight favor of the former, pretty much dead set against the latter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 10:12 PM (ZgKFD)

37 26 MisHum



My e-cookbook came through on Sunday, *immediately* showed mrs ibguy that she's been officially published in a cookbook.

Next stop: https://youtu.be/-rTcfKfXwqo

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:12 PM (vUcdz)

38 Universal food coverage? You mean, like, free bread for everyone?

Posted by: Zombie Roman at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (RbSs1)

39 Santa put a couple of presents under the tree for me.

I'm trying to be a good girl and not peek.

Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (za7hD)

40 I could go for a nice Reuben on Marble Rye.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (q3Awe)

41 33 Tonypete

Thank you!

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (vUcdz)

42 There are more people in Georgia(the State) than portugal.

This is not a good comparison.

Posted by: DavidM at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (LC5tJ)

43
[Horde: To my fellow Hordelings, thank you all in advance for your prayers and well-wishes for my sister and her family]
Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:09 PM (vUcdz)

Hope she finds something that is more comfortable and works for her.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (ZgKFD)

44 I've got a plane to catch bright and early tomorrow. I hope this sore back eases up overnight.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (nBr1j)

45 ibguy, what is the Optune doing in particular?

I know nothing about them, even second-hand.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (GsAUU)

46
Universal food coverage? You mean, like, free bread for everyone?
Posted by: Zombie Roman


You can eat it at the circus.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (IqV8l)

47 Ultimately, I think that whatever you fund you get more of.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2017 10:03 PM (qJtVm)

Like the war on drugs.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 11, 2017 10:14 PM (NWiLs)

48 That wineglass and fire?

Nudge the Sonoboi over just a little. No, closer.

Burn it with fire.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 11, 2017 10:14 PM (QzJWU)

49
Universal food coverage? You mean, like, free bread for everyone?
Posted by: Zombie Roman at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (RbSs1)


Free ribeyes for those of us on low carb.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 10:14 PM (vgMfV)

50 40- garrett Can you afford the co-pay?

Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:14 PM (UrSUC)

51 Santa put a couple of presents under the tree for me.

I'm trying to be a good girl and not peek.

Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (za7hD)


It's okay, go ahead. It's a peek-a-boo -- with a timer.

Posted by: RickZ at December 11, 2017 10:15 PM (BIsma)

52 43 Aetius451AD

Thank you.

45 logprof

It's a clinical trial, idea is that the device disrupts the tumor, allowing the Avastin to work more effectively.

Unfortunately, it's cumbersome and uncomfortable, and it's throwing her off cognitively and physically.

Oy.

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:15 PM (vUcdz)

53 Fucking Jorge Ramos.

Dude's whiter than I am but "an oppressed minority"

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:16 PM (GsAUU)

54 >> Santa put a couple of presents under the tree for me.

>>I'm trying to be a good girl and not peek


Careful. It might be a ruse...


Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:16 PM (q3Awe)

55 Shoe0nHead, an interesting take on Chromosome Crusaders.

++++

She's wrong on this one. The TERFs are right. A penis can never be a woman. Pretending that it is just means that it is a sorry excuse for a man.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 11, 2017 10:16 PM (pvjTE)

56 54 garrett

A ruse by any other name....

Posted by: ibguy at December 11, 2017 10:17 PM (vUcdz)

57 53 loglogprof

Midgets are oppressed?

Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:17 PM (UrSUC)

58 57 53 loglogprof

Midgets are oppressed?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:17 PM (UrSUC)

Compressed.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 11, 2017 10:17 PM (NWiLs)

59 >>Midgets are oppressed?

I only get paid 1/2 scale.

Posted by: Bridgette at December 11, 2017 10:18 PM (q3Awe)

60 As far as the opiod crisis and Portugal's answer. My point is there is a difference between drug decriminalization- and drug facilitation by the government. It seems what they argue in the blurb is the latter, not the former. I am in slight favor of the former, pretty much dead set against the latter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 10:12 PM (ZgKFD)

1) You're welcome as ever.

2) I don't have an answer for the American crisis. I think if you enable junkies to be junkies you might get a better handle on part of the problem. But not the entire problem.

The USA has a population that wants to use drugs.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:19 PM (3/sUh)

61 Saying Good Night. May you all have pleasant dreams!

Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2017 10:19 PM (za7hD)

62 Ultimately, I think that whatever you fund you get more of"

Our inner cities would agree...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 11, 2017 10:19 PM (MINbv)

63 Portugal is a strange place. More a colony of Angola and Brasil than a nation of its own, these days.

Sarah D'Almeida Hoyt could tell you.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2017 10:19 PM (6FqZa)

64 >>I only get paid half scale.

But you're a woman. Shouldn't that be 38.5% scale?

Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:20 PM (UrSUC)

65 White bread, rye bread.

Posted by: mrp, the gauche American at December 11, 2017 10:20 PM (Pqytn)

66 has anybody else noticed the Ace hardware Christmas commercials? They feature white guys, dads who don't look like doofuses or weaklings, being affectionate fathers and normal guys. that's so rare in commercials nowadays that it jumped right out at me.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (P8951)

67 I don't want to enable drug abuse, but I don't want this bullshit "War on Drugs" either.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (NWiLs)

68 I suspect drug decriminalization is a NIMBY problem.

My libertarian instincts were totally cool with the idea until I started finding needle exchange bottles in my urban apartment dumpster.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (I/iGu)

69 Jorge Ramos talks like a fag and his shit is all retarded.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (Ix4M6)

70 She's wrong on this one. The TERFs are right. A penis can never be a
woman. Pretending that it is just means that it is a sorry excuse for a
man.
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That and if they're already willing to pursue a civil war within the Left, they should be encouraged.

Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (XQvuQ)

71 so, weren't we told way back when that Bill Clinton was one of us because he liked McDonalds?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (ILitO)

72 The USA has a population that wants to use drugs.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:19 PM (3/sUh)

--Plenty has been written on this.

Especially since opioid use is so much a white phenomenon.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:22 PM (GsAUU)

73 Sarah's so good
At that domination thing
If was single
I'd give her a ring

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 10:22 PM (kUotE)

74 70 She's wrong on this one. The TERFs are right. A penis can never be a
woman. Pretending that it is just means that it is a sorry excuse for a
man.
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That and if they're already willing to pursue a civil war within the Left, they should be encouraged.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (XQvuQ)

Yeah, but they're still radical feminists and therefore lunatics.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 11, 2017 10:22 PM (NWiLs)

75 Ramos: This policy has been in the books since 1965, so of course it's sound!

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:22 PM (GsAUU)

76 38 Universal food coverage? You mean, like, free bread for everyone?
Posted by: Zombie Roman at December 11, 2017 10:13 PM (RbSs1)

From what I read, the Egyptians do this, and it was the primary driver of the uprising against the Muslim Brotherhood when the Brotherhood effed with it.

The Egyptians heavily subsidize bread, but they import grain to do it. Rather than leave the technocrat in charge of grain purchasing in place, the MB replaced him with a head bumping fanatic, who failed to buy the grain. No grain means no bread, and no bread is how you get half your population into the streets.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 11, 2017 10:23 PM (tMFgx)

77 I'm a cruel bitch. I would attack the opioid crisis by lacing some seized heroin with some deadly poison and having the lab that analyzed it make a big media fuss, then I'd say that it was likely that 1 of 100 hits in this city or state was poisoned and then I would splash overdose deaths all over the media, falsifying the information to imply those deaths were poisoned hits. And then I would have a big ad campaign publicizing "assistance to get into rehab".

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 11, 2017 10:23 PM (eASYU)

78 Coddling drug addicts encourages more such behavior and sets up an environment where pain patients are punished instead.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:23 PM (FTXAT)

79 She's wrong on this one. The TERFs are right. A penis can never be a woman. Pretending that it is just means that it is a sorry excuse for a man.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 11, 2017 10:16 PM (pvjTE)


When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less...

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty, Trans-activist at December 11, 2017 10:24 PM (itfg0)

80
so, weren't we told way back when that Bill Clinton was one of us because he liked McDonalds?
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (ILitO)


That was then. This is now.

How did communist parties respond to the Hitler-Stalin pact? That's the Left's "flexibility" of principle.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 10:24 PM (Oypvu)

81 has anybody else noticed the Ace hardware Christmas commercials? They feature white guys, dads who don't look like doofuses or weaklings, being affectionate fathers and normal guys. that's so rare in commercials nowadays that it jumped right out at me.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (P8951)


The Trump effect.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 11, 2017 10:24 PM (aMlLZ)

82 had to turn the tv off. the constant barrage of pharmacuetical and wal-mart ads makes me want to commit mayhem. fuckers, all of them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:25 PM (KP5rU)

83 75 Ramos: This policy has been in the books since 1965, so of course it's sound!

But he probably never complains when somebody says the Second Amendment is old and needs to be updated.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:25 PM (UrSUC)

84 need a catheter? fucktards.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:25 PM (KP5rU)

85 They are not illegal immagrants, they are illegal aliens. Fk that pisses me off.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:25 PM (Ix4M6)

86 1. Overfeeding fish like a FUCKIN BOSS
Posted by: Ace


******


From the time that Gil Finn was a boy
He thought being a fish would bring joy
He once made a wish
To be a gold fish
Turns out he was just being koi

Posted by: Muldoon at December 11, 2017 10:26 PM (wPiJc)

87 I'm sure you're all sick
Of my Sarah Sanders rhymes
Sorry about that
I get passionate sometimes

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 10:26 PM (kUotE)

88
Sarah's so good

At that domination thing

If was single

I'd give her a ring


Careful with that handing out rings thing. It may not turn out like you hoped.

Posted by: Sauron at December 11, 2017 10:26 PM (IcT7t)

89
By the time the pharma commercials get through all the side effects, hazards and instructions you forget what it's supposed to do.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (Oypvu)

90 Ramos is such a shit.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (P8951)

91 I'd update the 2nd Amendment to drop the militia clause because the modern population is in general too historically ignorant and deliberately retarded to understand what that actually means.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (NWiLs)

92 So, I've been busy napping, then making and drinking rum infested egg nog. I come back, look over the threads I missed and find out that, in a nutshell, the media hates us all in general, and Trump specifically.
P.S. don't tell those bastards how much coffee I drink per day, to get the caffeine. The food police and nanny staters will come after me with torches and pitchforks.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (+lVUW)

93 88 lol

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (kUotE)

94 Had to change the channel.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (Ix4M6)

95 89: no shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (KP5rU)

96 Jorge, you need to update those stale old talking points.

"Jobs Americans won't do" is sooooo 2006.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:28 PM (GsAUU)

97
For all you Sarah Huckabee fans, when my father broke his hip, the EMS head that came out was a gal that was a dead ringer for SHS. But thinner, and she had two full sleeves of tattoos up each arm.

Now, that is not my cup of tea, but some of you young bucks who do, would've likely have dug that gal.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 10:28 PM (8O3HH)

98 So, I'm basically broke and doing minimal Christmas this year. What do I get 16 yo grandson?

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:29 PM (Ix4M6)

99 THE NEW COOKBOOK IS HERE!!!
THE NEW COOKBOOK IS HERE!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2017 10:29 PM (zmvwV)

100
The USA has a population that wants to use drugs.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:19 PM (3/sUh)

I don't disagree and what we have now is definitely not working (criminalization at the same time having a culture that encourages or nods at use.) However, I am pretty dead set against making it easier for them to stay hooked and spending tax dollars indulging their habits. That goes beyond "Let an individual do what they are going to do as long as they are not hurting someone" into "I am going to take your tax dollars and help this guy indulge their addiction."

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 10:29 PM (ZgKFD)

101
I would splash overdose deaths all over the media, falsifying the information to imply those deaths were poisoned hits. And then I would have a big ad campaign publicizing "assistance to get into rehab".
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable


I doubt if that would make much difference. It would increase the "thrill" factor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2017 10:30 PM (IqV8l)

102 Just joined a Traditional Catholic parish for that reason, even though I am likely to pay a price

In what way, Hadrian?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 10:30 PM (8+Ozj)

103 >>What do I get 16 yo grandson?


Carton of smokes and a copy of Cheri.

Unless you like him.
Then you can get him something classy like Hustler.

Posted by: Bridgette at December 11, 2017 10:30 PM (q3Awe)

104 Got my cookbook today! good job, weasel and bluebell! The funniest recipe is the very last one.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 11, 2017 10:30 PM (P8951)

105 I admit, I did not cook anything from The Cookbook this evening.


I ordered a "Trump Burger" from Japan.

Given the strong US "Trump" dollar, the price wasn't bad- about nine bucks.

Air freight, dry ice, etc.-added substantially to the cost.

Really excellent hamburger. Portion-YUUGE.

Came with a side of spicy wasabi flavored schadenfreude.

Posted by: Miklos Trump, Jr. at December 11, 2017 10:30 PM (zCyNd)

106 Yeah, but they're still radical feminists and therefore lunatics.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 11, 2017 10:22 PM (NWiLs)

Even stopped clocks are right twice a day.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:31 PM (FTXAT)

107 --Plenty has been written on this.

Especially since opioid use is so much a white phenomenon.
Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:22 PM (GsAUU)

---------

I was in the hospital for about 2 weeks about a year ago. They came with opioid pain meds every day. I told them to keep it off my chart as I had no pain, but it kept coming, every day.

They are condtioned, and I did not need that monkey on my back.

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 10:31 PM (ohP/V)

108 @84: "need a catheter? fucktards."

Comcast is kinda sneaky about how they target advertise. I started seeing a whole bunch of catheter ads last year after my dead father's updated mailing address was merged with mine.

Including the cowboy catheter guy.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 11, 2017 10:31 PM (I/iGu)

109 what kind of a limp wristed pajama boy puts a bow on a fucking car? those car ads are as bad as feminine hygiene product ads. assholes, stfu already.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:31 PM (KP5rU)

110 I'll leave you be
My beloved Horde
Thanks to you
I'm rarely bored

Goodnight guys (and 'Ettes!)

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 10:31 PM (kUotE)

111 That cute little boy on the wine label is not the problem that drives teacher to drink.

His parents are.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2017 10:31 PM (EZebt)

112 i bought 4 cookbooks today: 1 for me and 3 for gifts.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2017 10:32 PM (ZeU5D)

113 What do I get 16 yo grandson?


A 15 year old distant cousin.

Posted by: Sen. Robert Byrd at December 11, 2017 10:32 PM (zCyNd)

114 My last year of med school at Brown ,1977, was $5400 tuition. Loans were very cheap and deferred til I finished residency. Tuition skyrocket started a few years later.

Posted by: lurking grandma at December 11, 2017 10:32 PM (sujqA)

115 Bridgette, lol, his folks would kill me. He's in JROTC and takes machine shop class at the local CC. He's a good kid. Thank God.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:32 PM (Ix4M6)

116 Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 11, 2017 10:23 PM (eASYU)

Have you ever met a heroin addict?

They wouldn't give a rat's ass.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2017 10:32 PM (wYseH)

117 So, I'm basically broke and doing minimal Christmas this year. What do I get 16 yo grandson?

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:29 PM (Ix4M6)


A 16 year old girl?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 11, 2017 10:32 PM (aMlLZ)

118 103: newsletter? or are you a professional gift counselor?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (KP5rU)

119 Got my Horde cookbook, and have only thumbed through it. Great food from recipes that real people use. Fantastic job, those who worked on it. You are doing the Lord's work.And that's not just the rum soaked egg nog talking.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (+lVUW)

120 Rush Limbaugh started off as a pain patient. So did Bret Farve. So did thousands of others.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (2DOZq)

121 BridgettesockOFF


Get him a Platinum Membership to AoSHQ and a Cookbook!

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (q3Awe)

122 >>>Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:22 PM (GsAUU)

Pot has always been wanted
Heroin in the 60s
Coke in the 70s
Crack in the 80s
Party Rave drugs in the 90s
Meth in the 2000s

Opioids?
Different drugs different time

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (3/sUh)

123 Macron is fucking with Trump.

Dude, didn't you learn from May *not to poke that bear*???

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:34 PM (GsAUU)

124 haha, his mom is getting the cookbook and socks.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:34 PM (Ix4M6)

125 Bluebell and Weasel, if you're here, the cookbook is AWESOME. I expected a pamphlet or a perfunctory excuse for a cookbook, but this thing IS A FREAKIN COOKBOOK!!!

I LOVE IT and I'm in awe of your focus and zeal in creating this thing.

I may have to amend my review to reflect the actual quality of this great cookbook!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2017 10:34 PM (zmvwV)

126 >>his mom is getting the cookbook and socks.


The nice thing about shopping for a 16 year old boy is that a pair of socks is 2 gifts.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:35 PM (q3Awe)

127 Different drugs different time

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (3/sUh)

Tell me about it, hep cat!

Posted by: Robert Mitchum's 1948 arrest record at December 11, 2017 10:35 PM (zCyNd)

128 Macron sounds like a synthetic fabric.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2017 10:35 PM (IqV8l)

129 That and if they're already willing to pursue a civil war within the Left, they should be encouraged.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2017 10:21 PM (XQvuQ)

Yeah, but they're still radical feminists and therefore lunatics.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 11, 2017 10:22 PM (NWiLs)

++++

Yes to the benefits of civil war. Let them destroy each other.

ShoeOnHead agrees with you that they are lunatics. Her reason: it is crazy to hate on the trannies who are just misunderstood women.

That is nuts. Whatever else the TERFs might be crazy about, they are dead right in not wanting penis people infiltrating their movement. The TERFs are trying to win benefits for women and they don't want the pretend women adding their craziness to the mix.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 11, 2017 10:36 PM (FUu/Z)

130 by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 10:29 PM (ZgKFD)

We are on the same page.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:36 PM (3/sUh)

131
Macron's mama needs to give him a spanking.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 10:36 PM (8O3HH)

132 youse guys make me laugh. Thanks.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:37 PM (Ix4M6)

133 >> youse guys make me laugh. Thanks.


Grandkid like to fish?

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:37 PM (q3Awe)

134 Opioids?
Different drugs different time
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (3/sUh)

--there's research going on to extract the pain-killing properties of Cannabis without the high.

That would be a breakthrough and help end these medical opioids.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:38 PM (GsAUU)

135 Rush Limbaugh started off as a pain patient. So did Bret Farve. So did thousands of others.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (2DOZq)

Less than a quarter of a percent of addicts start off as pain patients. it is asinine to punish the 99.75 that don't abuse their medication by refusing to properly treat their pain to keep those who are too weak willed (or who have "addictive personality disorder"... whichever you think is the case) from abusing.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:38 PM (FTXAT)

136 Dude, didn't you learn from May *not to poke that bear*???

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:34 PM (GsAUU)

Honestly, who would you rather poke?

Pedophile Mdme Macron, Or any Mrs. Trump?

Posted by: france has no age of consent at December 11, 2017 10:38 PM (zCyNd)

137 I'm also not in favor of total legalization - but hell, if there was ever a "war on drugs", we lost. For all of my adult life, hundreds of billions of dollars have been poured into enforcement, eradicaction, incarceration, whatever you want to call it - and the sum total result is that the Drug Problem is now 10 times worse (maybe 100 times worse) now than it was when this so-called "war on drugs" started.

I'm not completely sure what to do, but I KNOW that we we've been doing ain't working - in fact that strategy has failed about as spectacularly as it could have.

So I'm willing to see any new ideas tried, because the worst case scenario is that maybe they'll be just as bad as what we're doing now, but they won't be any worse.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (V2Yro)

138 I may have to amend my review to reflect the actual quality of this great cookbook!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2017 10:34 PM (zmvwV)
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I literally just peeked in before I'm about to head off to bed. Thank you for the nice words, Cicero! I'm glad you like it.

Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (kNasr)

139 By the time the pharma commercials get through all the side effects, hazards and instructions you forget what it's supposed to do.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


The most frightening thing is that at the end of the long list of side effects they say, very quickly, "some sexual side effects." And they don't tell you what those sexual side effects are, which leave you guessing. Dick shrivels up, weeping pustules on genitalia, men growing boobs, women growing beards? We don't know.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (+lVUW)

140 128 Macron sounds like a synthetic fabric.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2017 10:35 PM (IqV8l)

A macron is an expanded micron.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (nBr1j)

141 "Bridgette, lol, his folks would kill me. He's in
JROTC and takes machine shop class at the local CC. He's a good kid.
Thank God.

Posted by: Infidel"

An unfinished 80% AR-15 lower assembly?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (w+Jhj)

142 logprof,

What is ol' Jorge blathering on about?

Posted by: RickZ at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (BIsma)

143 131- That's not his momma, that's his wife.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:40 PM (UrSUC)

144 Macron, dacron, rayon...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 11, 2017 10:40 PM (MINbv)

145 I wonder if shoeonhead allows a pajama boy to play with her naughty bits. She does not seem the type but she dislikes traditional conservatives. She confuses me.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:40 PM (2DOZq)

146
117 So, I'm basically broke and doing minimal Christmas this year. What do I get 16 yo grandson?

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:29 PM (Ix4M6)


Ch, ch, ch, Chia! You should have seen Her Majesty's face when I got her one!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 10:40 PM (Oypvu)

147 I literally just peeked in before I'm about to head off to bed. Thank you for the nice words, Cicero! I'm glad you like it.

Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (kNasr)

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*fistbump*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2017 10:40 PM (zmvwV)

148
However, the law allows for a sliver of wiggle room if the plaintiffs can prove "negligent entrustment." In this case, the legal term means proving the manufacturers were reckless in that they knew they were selling deadly weapons and looking for violent young men as customers.







Except of course, that Lanza didn't buy those guns. He stole them from his mother, who owned them legally.

The plaintiff's attorney needs a swift kick in the scrotum for wasting the court's time on an obviously frivolous lawsuit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2017 10:41 PM (eXA4G)

149 Less than a quarter of a percent of addicts start off as pain patients. it is asinine to punish the 99.75 that don't abuse their medication by refusing to properly treat their pain to keep those who are too weak willed (or who have "addictive personality disorder"... whichever you think is the case) from abusing.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:38 PM (FTXAT)

-----

Please provide credible backup for this claim. Thank you.

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 10:41 PM (ohP/V)

150 That would be a breakthrough and help end these medical opioids.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:38 PM (GsAUU)

Why would you want to end medical opioids... they are effective and do not have the organ toxicity of the drugs (ibuprofen and acetaminophen) they replace.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:41 PM (FTXAT)

151 142 logprof,

What is ol' Jorge blathering on about?
Posted by: RickZ at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (BIsma)

--Bein' his usual Open Borders self.

Defending chain migration, which is a disaster.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:41 PM (GsAUU)

152 Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (2DOZq)

Hundreds of millions of prescriptions each year, and "thousands" become addicts?

That sounds like a safe drug.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2017 10:42 PM (wYseH)

153 139 By the time the pharma commercials get through all the side effects, hazards and instructions you forget what it's supposed to do.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

The most frightening thing is that at the end of the long list of side effects they say, very quickly, "some sexual side effects." And they don't tell you what those sexual side effects are, which leave you guessing. Dick shrivels up, weeping pustules on genitalia, men growing boobs, women growing beards? We don't know.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (+lVUW)

Sexual attraction to ficuses.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 10:42 PM (nBr1j)

154 Macron is proof that 50 million French can be wrong.

Then again, they prosecuted me for suggesting that muslims may not be the best thing for la France.

Posted by: Brigitte Bardot at December 11, 2017 10:42 PM (zCyNd)

155 weeping pustules on genitalia"

Hmmm.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 11, 2017 10:42 PM (MINbv)

156 I'd give Pookette's teacher booze, but it's a Christian school in a town without an actual bar. So, she gets a three-week Christmas break instead.


Tentative good news: Pooky is doing better on more Lithium and it will probably be increased again soon. His new psychiatrist is very interested in his case and has a theory that his brain was oxygen-deprived in the aftermath of his overdose. This may explain Pooky's feeling that his brain is "different" in the past year. Both his old and new psychiatrists have said that they believe the damage can be healed and that he can get over this. Thanks for all the prayers.

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 11, 2017 10:42 PM (XKZwp)

157 There were lots of retweets yesterday and today about an Everyday Feminism article entitled "10 Things Every Intersectional Feminist Should Ask On a First Date."

One of the most succinct distillations of progressive ideology you'll ever read.

Well worth a search and five minutes of your time.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 11, 2017 10:43 PM (I/iGu)

158 153; couch and toaster fucking.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:43 PM (KP5rU)

159 >>Dick shrivels up, weeping pustules on genitalia, men growing boobs, women growing beards?

Really? That was in the fine print? Shit, that explains it!

Posted by: Barry at December 11, 2017 10:43 PM (2cuLk)

160 91 I'd update the 2nd Amendment to drop the militia clause because the modern population is in general too historically ignorant and deliberately retarded to understand what that actually means.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (NWiLs)

++++

That would be bad, because the right to form militias is also an important civil right.

But, separating the two clauses into independent sentences would probably be good. Make it like the first amendment, where all the speech rights are not dependent on each other, not even arguably.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 11, 2017 10:43 PM (pvjTE)

161 145 I wonder if shoeonhead allows a pajama boy to play with her naughty bits. She does not seem the type but she dislikes traditional conservatives. She confuses me.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:40 PM (2DOZq)

--She's not so much conservative as anti-joyless feminazi.

She had a good video about "feminist boyfriends" --can't recall the exact title.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:43 PM (GsAUU)

162 However, I am pretty dead set against making it easier for them to stay hooked and spending tax dollars indulging their habits. That goes beyond "Let an individual do what they are going to do as long as they are not hurting someone" into "I am going to take your tax dollars and help this guy indulge their addiction."

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at


That's how I feel. We're the ones stuck with the bill for caring for their children, because they care more about meth than their kids.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 10:43 PM (+lVUW)

163
The age of consent in France is complicated. They do have a technical age of consent, which stands at 15, and that's an offense, but it's not *rape* if there is consent.

IOW, there is no equivalent of statutory rape.

I remember reading that in the case of Mdm. Macron, his parents could have sued her civilly for the equivalent of "corruption of a minor", but they didn't do it. Her family was very wealthy, and there was some talk they made have bought off his parents. Or something like that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 10:43 PM (8O3HH)

164 The idea of waging a war on a weed is ridiculous. Might as well collect them seashells for the emperor.

Weird to see a link to Zman here. That guy is a realtalker and often covers topics some people here probably wouldn't like.

I visit daily though because he often talks about thoughts or ideas I've been thinking about that don't seem to get covered on the other sites I visit.

Like Freedom of Association. That's a big one and in my mind the source of many problems we're facing today. Of course, that makes me a racist. But we wouldn't even be having this discussion about gays and cakes if they hadn't used the Civil Rights stuff to destroy our right to freely associate. Once that one went through, everything else was inevitable. It'll be interesting to see what twisted and sick stuff they'll shit down everyone's throat using that rationale.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 11, 2017 10:44 PM (4ErVI)

165 156: lithium saved my life. long story.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:44 PM (KP5rU)

166
The most frightening thing is that at the end of the long list of side effects they say, very quickly, "some sexual side effects."

"If attracted to Lena Dunham, call your doctor immediately."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 10:44 PM (Oypvu)

167 Both his old and new psychiatrists have said that they believe the damage can be healed and that he can get over this. Thanks for all the prayers.
Posted by: pookysgirl at December 11, 2017 10:42 PM (XKZwp)
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pookysgirl, that sounds very promising. I'm so glad to hear that. Slow and steady wins the race. Just keep going, and appreciate every gain, no matter how small it is. It's all better than it was before.

Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 11, 2017 10:45 PM (kNasr)

168 >> Macron sounds like a synthetic fabric.

>>> A macron is an expanded micron.


macron is a Scottish pasta dish, you daft gowks

Posted by: Groundskeeper Willie at December 11, 2017 10:45 PM (EzdLW)

169 >>>Sexual attraction to ficuses.

And the Horde continues to make me chuckle

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 10:45 PM (3/sUh)

170 All y'all going to sleep who pray --pray for the good people of Alabama!

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:45 PM (GsAUU)

171 The most frightening thing is that at the end of the long list of side
effects they say, very quickly, "some sexual side effects." And they
don't tell you what those sexual side effects are, which leave you
guessing. Dick shrivels up, weeping pustules on genitalia, men growing
boobs, women growing beards? We don't know.


Causes men to develop barbs on their penis. Like a cat would have.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 11, 2017 10:45 PM (IcT7t)

172 Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:45 PM (GsAUU)

I have been praying for them and will continue to do. Thanks for the reminder.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 10:45 PM (8+Ozj)

173 >>The most frightening thing is that at the end of the long list of side effects they say, very quickly, "some sexual side effects."


I saw Bloody Seminal Discharge open for The Speed Bumps at Red Rocks back in 02!

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:46 PM (q3Awe)

174 Thanks for all the prayers.
Posted by: pookysgirl at December 11, 2017 10:42 PM (XKZwp)
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What a difficult journey for you both. Will continue to pray.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 10:46 PM (8+Ozj)

175 The most frightening thing is that at the end of the long list of side effects they say, very quickly, "some sexual side effects." And they don't tell you what those sexual side effects are, which leave you guessing. Dick shrivels up, weeping pustules on genitalia, men growing boobs, women growing beards? We don't know.


-------

*downward slide whistle*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (zmvwV)

176 171: some dudes develop corkscrew dicks. it's science. better living through chemistry.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (KP5rU)

177 any Kindle owners here, he asked rhetorically.

can you download a kindle file to regular computer, for future use? Amazon says i have a free graphic novel coming my way from today's purchase, but we are a Kindle free zone, and i doubt i can share the link with anyone w/o giving them access to my Amazon page, which ain't happening, for OPSEC reasons.

suggestions? (not including buying a Kindle)

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (ZeU5D)

178 All y'all going to sleep who pray --pray for the good people of Alabama!
Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:45 PM (GsAUU)
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Will do, logprof. Actually, when we say grace before meals, we add an extra prayer for our country. We started doing that right after the election in 2000 during all the recounts, and never stopped.

Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (kNasr)

179 weeping pustules on genitalia


There's a character in Tom Wolfe's Back To Blood with that. A Harvey-like sex addict.

Posted by: H. Solo at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (EzdLW)

180 89
By the time the pharma commercials get through all the side effects, hazards and instructions you forget what it's supposed to do.


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 10:27 PM (Oypvu)


Simple, really and I have personally studied this:

1/2 of the Pharma commercials are for curing 'craziness' in woman.

1/2 of the Pharma commercials are for erectile dysfunction so men and screw them.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (V8Y+e)

181 Drudge is doing everything he can to give the dems a senate seat from a deep red state!

Just so he can show bannon who is boss lol.

Luckily that fox news poll is fake news.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at December 11, 2017 10:48 PM (ZZhQQ)

182 The age of consent in France is complicated. They do have a technical age of consent, which stands at 15, and that's an offense, but it's not *rape* if there is consent.


So you're sayin'....

Posted by: Les Cajuns, et Code Napoleon at December 11, 2017 10:48 PM (zCyNd)

183
IIRC, Viagra current indication was a *good* sexual side effect of the drug they were tinkering with for some other purpose.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 10:48 PM (8O3HH)

184 Infidel :

In case you check back in later or tomorrow Morning...

If you think your Grandson would like a Fly Rod and Reel Combo for XMas, get my email from a Cob and I will hook you up with a great gift.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:49 PM (q3Awe)

185 @176: "some dudes develop corkscrew dicks. it's science. better living through chemistry."

Chemistry? Sounds more like the ladies in National Geographic with the long necks stacked up with metal rings.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 11, 2017 10:49 PM (I/iGu)

186 Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:33 PM (2DOZq)

Hundreds of millions of prescriptions each year, and "thousands" become addicts?

That sounds like a safe drug.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2017 10:42 PM (wYseH)

Okay you got me.
Prescription drugs are not a problem. What was I thinking.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:49 PM (2DOZq)

187 can you download a kindle file to regular computer, for future use? Amazon says i have a free graphic novel coming my way from today's purchase, but we are a Kindle free zone, and i doubt i can share the link with anyone w/o giving them access to my Amazon page, which ain't happening, for OPSEC reasons.

suggestions? (not including buying a Kindle)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (ZeU5D)

--The free desktop version of Kindle should do that.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:50 PM (GsAUU)

188 Is the Moore campaign prepared for voter fraud by Dems, I wonder.? Because the Dems will do that and even if Moore wins they'll cry voter fraud and hold up the election certification,

Aside from the fact that Blacks often vote Democratic I can't imagine that the left wing policies endorsed by Jones would appeal to many of them. I would think they would just stay home if they aren't supporting Moore

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 10:51 PM (8+Ozj)

189 Isn't France rethinking their lack of age of consent laws after two men were recently acquired of rape charges because the eleven year old girls they were with consented?

Posted by: tankdemon at December 11, 2017 10:51 PM (UrSUC)

190 @183: "IIRC, Viagra current indication was a *good* sexual side effect of the drug they were tinkering with for some other purpose."

I think it was originally a heart medication, and they knew about the boner effects for two decades, but wouldn't market as an ED drug 'cause corporate lawyers were paranoid about liability.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 11, 2017 10:51 PM (I/iGu)

191 can you download a kindle file to regular computer, for future use? Amazon says i have a free graphic novel coming my way from today's purchase, but we are a Kindle free zone, and i doubt i can share the link with anyone w/o giving them access to my Amazon page, which ain't happening, for OPSEC reasons.

suggestions? (not including buying a Kindle)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (ZeU5D)

--Ah, now I get what you're saying.

Calibre can convert among multiple formats. It's also a free download.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:51 PM (GsAUU)

192 113 What do I get 16 yo grandson?


A 15 year old distant cousin.
Posted by: Sen. Robert Byrd


Too old.

Posted by: Jerry Lee Lewis at December 11, 2017 10:51 PM (+lVUW)

193 There is no Misogyny problem.

There is no Gun problem.

There is no Drug problem.



There is a People problem.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:51 PM (q3Awe)

194 word on the street is that EA Edmonton's game 'Anthem', teased to us since 2014... is not going well

youtube.com/watch?v=ZpY7Yx0Ua8Y

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2017 10:51 PM (6FqZa)

195 Brady woke up. Pats down by 10, 13 min to go in the 4th. Does anybody really believe the 'Phins are the better team tonight?

Posted by: I'm not watching, just monitoring! at December 11, 2017 10:52 PM (3wPE7)

196
Yeah, I looked it. Viagra was discovered from research on some drugs for hypertension and angina.

During the clinical trials, they found the compound had little effect on angina, but damn, these old geezers are getting hard ons like teenagers. Hmmmmm..........

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Ca-ching, Ca-ching.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 10:52 PM (8O3HH)

197 Dude's whiter than I am but "an oppressed minority"
Posted by: logprof
------------

It pays well.

Posted by: B. O. Plenty at December 11, 2017 10:52 PM (leCj4)

198 chavez, I'm glad it helped. The new psychiatrist also said that given Pooky's height and weight, the old dose of Lithium was much too small. But, given that he had changed providers several times this year, no one had been able to study how well it was working for him. Oh well, we'll give these meds a chance to work and see what it does. (My therapist has me in a holding pattern because I can't get fixed until Pooky does.)

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 11, 2017 10:52 PM (XKZwp)

199 Luckily that fox news poll is fake news.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at December 11, 2017 10:48 PM (ZZhQQ)

We hope it's fake. I guess some the underlying internals look like crap, but it could also be a hardening as the vote nears.

I want Moore to win solely to cause heads to explode. I want the media to think their usual tactics won't work anymore. Because if fake news and hectoring and lecturing won't work, what have they got?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (4ErVI)

200 183
IIRC, Viagra current indication was a *good* sexual side effect of the drug they were tinkering with for some other purpose.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 10:48 PM (8O3HH)

If I remember, Viagra was originally developed to increase blood flow for people with high blood pressure or heart disease? Seems like I remember reading something like that when it first came out. Could be wrong.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (ZgKFD)

201 135 Less than a quarter of a percent of addicts start off as pain patients. it is asinine to punish the 99.75 that don't abuse their medication by refusing to properly treat their pain to keep those who are too weak willed (or who have "addictive personality disorder"... whichever you think is the case) from abusing.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:38 PM (FTXAT)


Hear, hear. I guess I'm blessed; I don't have any tendency at all to opiate addition. After some major surgery, I was taking 2 Hydrocodone every 4 hours for weeks. When the time came, I tapered off, no problem. I was eager to do it, sick of everything being fuzzy. Just can't fathom why I should be treated like a child, and denied pain meds by Daddy Government, if I ever need them like that again, just because some other people have a problem I don't have.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (Vb4BV)

202 Thanks for the tips. Fishing? not sure. His dad worked crazy insane hours but is now out of a job. I have a 308 for him, sorta saving that for graduation. Kidlet reccomended a gift card for the movie theater. That seems somehow, off, not from a grandma.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (Ix4M6)

203
suggestions? (not including buying a Kindle)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM


This might help:

https://calibre-ebook.com/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (IqV8l)

204 Less than a quarter of a percent of addicts start
off as pain patients. it is asinine to punish the 99.75 that don't abuse
their medication by refusing to properly treat their pain to keep those
who are too weak willed (or who have "addictive personality
disorder"... whichever you think is the case) from abusing.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:38 PM (FTXAT)



-----



Please provide credible backup for this claim. Thank you.

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 10:41 PM (ohP/V)

https://tinyurl.com/ycqhoxyn


From Cochrane.org: In a review of 26 studies with 27 treatment groups comprised of 4,893 participants (who took opioids for at least 6 months for chronic noncancer pain), signs of addiction were found in 0.27% of participants.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (FTXAT)

205 suggestions? (not including buying a Kindle)

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2017 10:47 PM (ZeU5D)



--The free desktop version of Kindle should do that.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 10:50 PM (GsAUU)


Or, if you have a tablet, the Kindle app works pretty good. I switched over to a cheap Samsung Tab A tablet from a Kindle so I'd have more versatility.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (yzxic)

206 Didn't Lanza's mother purchase the ARs? I don't recall thta he did.

Posted by: CMU VET at December 11, 2017 10:54 PM (C+wjz)

207 Is the Moore campaign prepared for voter fraud by Dems, I wonder.? Because the Dems will do that and even if Moore wins they'll cry voter fraud and hold up the election certification,

Fen-

The SoS in Alabama is not a Soros person.

If fraud is attempted, it will be dealt with.

Posted by: Les Cajuns, Miklos aussi at December 11, 2017 10:54 PM (zCyNd)

208 198: hang in there pookysgirl. i had to get a blood test every day to get the dose right. it takes awhile.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:54 PM (KP5rU)

209 I call Viagra "Twitter pills"

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at December 11, 2017 10:55 PM (Vb4BV)

210 For any of you who've been involved in elder care (and if you haven't been, you will be, either on the giving or receiving end) one of the most infuriating situations is when someone is in full time care, unable to function on their own, and they have a condition resulting in severe chronic pain. (no end of the list of causes) I (and everyone else) has seen no end of doctors who are scared of giving out appropriate pain medication, and thus let the patient suffer needlessly. Often the justification will be " well if they take too much, they'll get addicted"? WELL SO FUKKIN' WHAT. The patient is 84 years old and has a medical condition that gives him a life expectancy of 2 - 3 years. SO WHAT if he gets addicted? You already know he's gonna die from something worse before he dies from that, so load him up with what he needs to stay in his right mind - that's the humane thing to do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2017 10:55 PM (V2Yro)

211 Okay you got me.
Prescription drugs are not a problem. What was I thinking.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:49 PM (2DOZq)

I am pretty sure the drug itself is not the problem, but rather how people use/prescribe them.

Where have I heard that before...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 10:55 PM (ZgKFD)

212 The Frugal Gourmet groped me !


oh right old news

Posted by: Neverstopfishing at December 11, 2017 10:55 PM (zHYdK)

213 'they don't care what players want. they only care about what players will pay for.'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2017 10:55 PM (6FqZa)

214 Well, if you think he'd enjoy having a Fly Rod - problem solved.

Just get my email from CBD or MisHum.

It's my treat and one less old stock Rod I have to sell on Craigslist / eBay.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 10:56 PM (q3Awe)

215 Hmm, votermom was pimping a WWII book a few weeks ago. Can't remember what it was. He is a WWII buff. I got him a bio of Audey Murphy (sp) last year.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:56 PM (Ix4M6)

216 206: yes she did.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 10:56 PM (KP5rU)

217 The physical dependence caused by opioids can be horrific. As a child I watched my dad go cold turkey off morphine after major back surgery. It was awful. You need it to avoid the horrible withdrawal symptoms, not to enjoy it. Uppers (meth, for instance) is more of a psychological/emotional dependence -- look up anhedonia, inability to feel pleasure because you've worn out your dopamine receptors. You don't OD on meth like you do opioids. Anyway, as a judge once said to me, I'm a pot guy, completely different thing.

BTW, alcohol's a drug and the worst one for society. It's just the DoC of more people.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 11, 2017 10:56 PM (KAi1n)

218 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2017 10:55 PM (V2Yro)

Yes. True, and stupid.

I dealt with this today. Not the first or last.

Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at December 11, 2017 10:57 PM (zCyNd)

219 Julia Child groped me!

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2017 10:58 PM (IqV8l)

220 210 For any of you who've been involved in elder care (and if you haven't been, you will be, either on the giving or receiving end) one of the most infuriating situations is when someone is in full time care, unable to function on their own, and they have a condition resulting in severe chronic pain. (no end of the list of causes) I (and everyone else) has seen no end of doctors who are scared of giving out appropriate pain medication, and thus let the patient suffer needlessly. Often the justification will be " well if they take too much, they'll get addicted"? WELL SO FUKKIN' WHAT. The patient is 84 years old and has a medical condition that gives him a life expectancy of 2 - 3 years. SO WHAT if he gets addicted? You already know he's gonna die from something worse before he dies from that, so load him up with what he needs to stay in his right mind - that's the humane thing to do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2017 10:55 PM (V2Yro)

Boom, dude. Mother dying of lung cancer and she got all the pain meds she needed, including fentanyl patches. This was about 12 years ago. My Dad was all she'll get addicted! This is madness! I was like she's terminal and she's dying it doesn't matter.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 11, 2017 10:58 PM (4ErVI)

221 Re: opiods. China has been trying to fight the problem for about 3, 000 years now. The only 'problems' arise - at present - b/c addicts cannot get their fix in a safe and economical way. Were we to fix that, many of the worst problems would be resolved. It's not ideal, and I'm not saying it's virtuous, but it does seem prudent

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 10:58 PM (fA1SL)

222
I've got rheumatoid arthritis. When I have a humdinger of flare of that shit, well, until I had this, I wouldn't believed just how bad joints can hurt. No one would.

If weren't for powerful opioids for those occasions, well.

I've found it's not much use to try to talk about it. People who don't know, haven't experienced that kind of shit, just will never understand. And I hope they don't ever really understand, if you know what I mean.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Well, ISIS types, accepted. Yeah, if I could dump this on those sumbitches, I would.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 10:58 PM (8O3HH)

223 Fly rod. Interesting. Will check with SIL. Thanks garrett!

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:58 PM (Ix4M6)

224 From Cochrane.org: In a review of 26 studies with 27 treatment groups comprised of 4,893 participants (who took opioids for at least 6 months for chronic noncancer pain), signs of addiction were found in 0.27% of participants.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (FTXAT)

-------

Really? That's it? Alrighty then.

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 10:58 PM (ohP/V)

225 Posted by: Les Cajuns, Miklos aussi at December 11, 2017 10:54 PM (zCyNd)


Thanks; That's good to know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 10:59 PM (8+Ozj)

226 I would attack the opioid crisis by lacing some seized heroin with some deadly poison and having the lab that analyzed it make a big media fuss, then I'd say that it was likely that 1 of 100 hits in this city or state was poisoned and then I would splash overdose deaths all over the media, falsifying the information to imply those deaths were poisoned hits. And then I would have a big ad campaign publicizing "assistance to get into rehab".
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable


That won't work. Heroin junkies see their "friends" OD and die all the time. It doesn't seem to stop the problem.

As MH said, this is a country with a lot of people that want to take drugs. They are fundamentally unhappy with their lives, and want to change how reality works with chemicals.
There is no pretty, clever or neat solution.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 11, 2017 10:59 PM (S6Pax)

227 "Excepted" not "accepted". My typing circuits just mistranslate what the brain tells them to type. A lot.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:00 PM (8O3HH)

228 >> Fly rod. Interesting. Will check with SIL.


..and reel, line, leader, case...the whole shiterie.

No problem . Just. Don't wait too long...

Shipping this time of year is a roll of the dice!

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:00 PM (q3Awe)

229 Chicago's Terry Kath: Inside the Life and Tragic Death of an Unsung Guitar Hero

-
From Wiki:

Kath took an unloaded .38 revolver and put it to his head, pulling the trigger several times on the empty chambers. Johnson warned Kath several times to be careful. Kath then picked up a semiautomatic 9 mm pistol and, leaning back in a chair, said to Johnson, "Don't worry about it ... look, the clip is not even in it."[34] To satisfy Johnson's concerns, Kath showed the empty magazine to Johnson. Kath then replaced the magazine in the gun, put the gun to his temple and pulled the trigger. Apparently unbeknownst to Kath, however, there was still one round in the chamber, and he died instantly from the gunshot.[34]

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe today! Covfefe tomorrow! Covfefe forever! at December 11, 2017 11:01 PM (+y/Ru)

230 We are already testing the "poison the heroin" scheme right now, with fentanyl, and it's not working so well.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2017 11:01 PM (Vb4BV)

231 As far as the war on drugs goes, I want drug dealers to not be in my neighborhood.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 11:01 PM (+lVUW)

232 Re: opiods. China has been trying to fight the problem for about 3, 000 years now.

Aha. The logic is now clear.

1-get California addicted to opium

2-establish monopoly on supply of opium

3-lease California to China for 99 years

4-PROFIT!!!!

Posted by: Miklos, with a view over Kowloon Harbor at December 11, 2017 11:02 PM (zCyNd)

233 Thanks garrett. I wil know tomorrow. Bless you!

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 11:03 PM (Ix4M6)

234 Wow, it's the opium wars.

I've been in a lot of rooms with opiod addicts because of my socially acceptable alcoholism. I'll just say that it's not your father's Chevrolet, it's not 70s hippies on smack for the most part. From what I've seen it's a lot of back pain and I couldn't keep getting the scripts so I found heroin on the street.

I remember at the beginning of the oxy thing that "they" were saying "oh we've got it this time. We have opium that won't be addictive".

I'm kind of leery about blaming the victims here.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, in touch with his toxic masculinity in his desire to oppress someone at December 11, 2017 11:03 PM (fuK7c)

235 If I remember, Viagra was originally developed to increase blood flow for people with high blood pressure or heart disease? Seems like I remember reading something like that when it first came out. Could be wrong.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (ZgKFD)


Yeah, it increases blood flow to the heart. And other places.

That's why it works as a pecker perker, but that also makes it dangerous for people who have particular sorts of medical problems.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:03 PM (+azJs)

236 Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (Ix4M6)

I have no idea what to get my 17 year old son, so I empathize with your concern.

My son wants an i-phone which is terribly expensive and he hasn't done well with phones. He either loses them or they get destroyed. We said "No phone except for a flip phone" and he hasn't asked for anything else.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:03 PM (8+Ozj)

237 231. Used to be ya could buy morphine and heroine at the local druggists. Pure, too, made by Bayer. Grab a little cocaine wine to counteract drowsiness while you were there.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:03 PM (fA1SL)

238 China's solution to their opium problem back in the day was to kill all of them. They literally shot them in the head. I've seen film footage of the executions somewhere. Pretty grisly and it was the old days, but it did fix the problem...for awhile anyway.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 11, 2017 11:03 PM (4ErVI)

239 >>Hear, hear. I guess I'm blessed; I don't have any
tendency at all to opiate addition. After some major surgery, I was
taking 2 Hydrocodone every 4 hours for weeks. When the time came, I
tapered off, no problem. I was eager to do it, sick of everything being
fuzzy. Just can't fathom why I should be treated like a child, and
denied pain meds by Daddy Government, if I ever need them like that
again, just because some other people have a problem I don't have.

Posted by: Splunge

Surgeons are being hectored now that you should only need 7 days worth of pain medication after surgery.

Posted by: Aviator at December 11, 2017 11:03 PM (2cuLk)

240
During Prohibition they poisoned alcohol, per federal mandate, to make it unfit for human consumption. A lot of drunks died from drinking it. A lot of the bootleggers tried to "renature" so-called "denatured alcohol", I think.

There was a NY Times editorial back during that time that was basically, "Yeah, these damn sots deserve what they get".

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:04 PM (8O3HH)

241 232. Dude! Why ya gotta go and spill the beans like that?

Well, fuck....there goes THAT idea.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:04 PM (fA1SL)

242

Ketracel-white

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2017 11:04 PM (IqV8l)

243 Really? That's it? Alrighty then.

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 10:58 PM (ohP/V)

Most people who start on prescription drugs as their recreational drug of choice do so on stolen drugs not on drugs that were prescribed to them (according to heroin addicts that were asked by the federal government... take their answers with a truckload of salt because drug addicts will lie their asses off if they think they will benefit from those lies).

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:05 PM (FTXAT)

244 Quote #3 about the custodial state is great.

All of us being forced to be accountants for the gubmint (IRS).

Doctors forced to treat people with no money, often costing them out of pocket.

Never owning a piece of property; forever forced to pay rent on it or lose it (RE taxes), though if you get old enough and its value is low enough you might get an eventual exemption.

Obamacare.

Each is a form of slavery.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 11, 2017 11:05 PM (0ogQG)

245 >>Surgeons are being hectored now that you should only need 7 days worth of pain medication after surgery.


Which is sad because Pain is the Mind Killer.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:06 PM (q3Awe)

246 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 11, 2017 10:59 PM (S6Pax)

Milwaukee had 8 ODs in a span of a weekend. Fentynol mixed with heroin.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 11:06 PM (3/sUh)

247 I'd just legalize drugs outright. Drug usage would go up some, I'm sure, and I don't like seeing people throw their lives away. But people who don't want to be sober wont be, the current system makes it hard for people who need drugs for medical purposes to get them, and I'm tired of funding a para-military police force that has no regard for my rights. (I'm confident my "solution" would have problems; I just think trying to protect junkies from themselves likely does more harm net.)

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at December 11, 2017 11:06 PM (H5knJ)

248 I wonder if shoeonhead allows a pajama boy to play with her naughty bits. She does not seem the type but she dislikes traditional conservatives. She confuses me.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:40 PM (2DOZq)


Just because they are anti-SJW, doesn't mean that they are Leftists who embrace the destruction of the precepts of Western Civilization, abet in a kindler/gentler way.

What they don't understand is that is is they who led the way for the hardcore nutballs to seize the opportunities that those like Shoeonhead provided them.

Once you say that we can jump in an collectively change society along some "rational" prinicples, you've legitimized replacing anything and everything.

Sure, those kind and genteel liberals might only want to honestly make things better and still like much if not most of Western Civilization, and even mean it when they say "just the tip"... but the guy behind them are going all the way with both you and those genteel liberals.

Each year I become more and more convinced that Edmund Burke was right.

I become even more convinced that we need to reanimate the corpse of James FitzJames Stephen, to lay the smackdown on these genteel liberals.

Posted by: The Conservative Hat at December 11, 2017 11:06 PM (itfg0)

249 Ace on his twitter whore:

Trump's fulfilled the three campaign promises I care about:
1. Overfeeding fish like a FUCKIN BOSS
2. Having the second scoop of ice cream delivered automatically like he's fuckin SINATRA AT THE TROP
3. Pounding Diet Coke like a VIKING POET

Posted by: andycanuck at December 11, 2017 11:07 PM (QCX64)

250
In what way, Hadrian?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 10:30 PM (8+Ozj)


I was baptized a Catholic though I have been lapsed for many, many years. During that time, I married Her Majesty. She is not, has never been and is highly unlikely to become a Catholic. She is also previously married and divorced and her ex is still alive.

The Church does not therefore recognize my marriage. Strictly speaking, I am an adulterer. I cannot go to Confession nor receive Communion. Her previous marriage can be annulled, but it is a lengthy proceeding and the petition may, in fact, be denied, in which case someone has to die, literally.

I accept that. If HM wishes to participate in an annullment of her prior marriage it can only be by her own free choice. I will only lay out what the procedure is and leave the decision to her. Through this and even, perhaps, at the end I and only I can bear the burden; she is blameless.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 11:07 PM (Oypvu)

251 morphine and heroine at the local druggists. Pure, too, made by Bayer. Grab a little cocaine wine to counteract drowsiness while you were there.

"Morph and Coa-Cola

Go down point coo-mana"

Posted by: The Andrews Sisters unkowm personal lives at December 11, 2017 11:07 PM (zCyNd)

252 I'm surprised my parents were as sober as they were, considering they had to deal with me growing up.

I got paid back in spades, though, because my three were pretty much me times three.

Grew and have done pretty well, though.

Posted by: blake at December 11, 2017 11:07 PM (WEBkv)

253 Bless you Fenelon. The kids do so much for him and he really is a good kid. gets his license this month. I'm still on the job hunt. I guess I could make him a giant pan of lasagna. He loves that. Gah, that's a big fail too.

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 11:08 PM (Ix4M6)

254 We are already testing the "poison the heroin" scheme right now, with fentanyl, and it's not working so well.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2017 11:01 PM (Vb4BV)

It is actually the Chinese that are doing that... all of the fentanyl that is being mixed with heroin (and cocaine and etc.) is knock off stuff from China and Mexico.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:08 PM (FTXAT)

255 I don't know how people can handle munching on pain killers. I hate those things. The few times they were prescribed I never finished the bottle. 1-2 days and I was done with that shit. I guess some people react differently. Me, I can't hang with Dr Percocetti.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (aMlLZ)

256 Ace on his twitter whore:

You know, she's gonna turn on him one day, bein' a whore an' all...

Posted by: the Cynical Miklos at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (zCyNd)

257 @160....

The 2nd is here to stay.....or will cause the end of the Ol USA.

Another Civil War will be fought if the 2nd's ever gutted/fundamentally altered. That's simple fact.

What boggles the mind and (reinforces the idea that most folks are DUMBFUCKS)......is that Medical Errors, like cut off the wrong leg type of insanity, .....KILL 10percent OF THOSE WHO DIE IN THE U.S. in a given year.

Yep, medical errors are a WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION......by any definition.

Are those responsible for FUCKIN MURDER held accountable in any reasonable fashion.......Fuck No.

G oogle the following......And be completely HORRIFIED.....

John King, Doctor, WV

Up is down, etc......

What a fuckin world......

All the Best Y'all.....AS ALWAYS.....Y'all Deserve It.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (IlqBS)

258 Surgeons are being hectored now that you should only need 7 days worth of pain medication after surgery.
Posted by: Aviator at December 11, 2017 11:03 PM (2cuLk)


Different people have different tolerances for pain. There are a whole lot of people out there who've never experienced real pain, and when they do it shocks them because they've never learned to cope with it.

I know people who've recovered from major surgery with Tylenol alone, and other people who demand opioids to address a problem for which I wouldn't even take aspirin.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (+azJs)

259 Thanks for letting me know. I am glad you are back in church, although I would think it would be hard not being able to take the Eucharist.It would be hard for me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (8+Ozj)

260 Really? That's it? Alrighty then.

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 10:58 PM (ohP/V)

Most people who start on prescription drugs as their recreational drug of choice do so on stolen drugs not on drugs that were prescribed to them (according to heroin addicts that were asked by the federal government... take their answers with a truckload of salt because drug addicts will lie their asses off if they think they will benefit from those lies).
Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:05 PM (FTXAT)

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I am going to type this slowly, for your benefit.

Please. Show. Links. That. Match. Your. Assertions.

Thank you.

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (ohP/V)

261 We are already testing the "poison the heroin" scheme right now, with fentanyl, and it's not working so well.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2017 11:01 PM (Vb4BV)

Science!

Posted by: C. Darwin at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (zCyNd)

262 From Cochrane.org: In a review of 26 studies with 27 treatment groups comprised of 4,893 participants (who took opioids for at least 6 months for chronic noncancer pain), signs of addiction were found in 0.27% of participants.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 10:53 PM (FTXAT)


It is important to distinguish between people who really need the pain meds, and those who get the prescription from a willing doctor just to get high.

Posted by: The Painless Hat at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (itfg0)

263 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (8+Ozj)

Sorry; Wrong thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (8+Ozj)

264 240
During Prohibition they poisoned alcohol, per federal mandate, to make it unfit for human consumption. A lot of drunks died from drinking it. A lot of the bootleggers tried to "renature" so-called "denatured alcohol", I think.

There was a NY Times editorial back during that time that was basically, "Yeah, these damn sots deserve what they get".
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:04 PM (8O3HH)


I remember the government spraying the herbicide paraquat on marijuana back in the 70s. There were a lot of comments like, 'Fucking potheads are breaking the law. They deserve to be poisoned."

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (sdi6R)

265 254. I still think the old way - with a few modifications - is best. Morphine, heroine, etc. - on-script and from a proper pharmacy, upon diagnosis of chronic addiction to same by competent medical authorities. Not ideal - but it stops the bleeding. Probably cheaper than the way we're doing it now, too.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (fA1SL)

266 248 I wonder if shoeonhead allows a pajama boy to play with her naughty bits. She does not seem the type but she dislikes traditional conservatives. She confuses me.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 10:40 PM (2DOZq)


I wouldn't call Armored Skeptic a pajama boy, though I wouldn't describe him as super masculine either.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (+azJs)

267 >> I don't know how people can handle munching on
>> pain killers

Tolerance. And differences in metabolism and biochemistry.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (8O3HH)

268 Posted by: andycanuck at December 11, 2017 11:07 PM (QCX64)

That should have been a thread by ace

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (3/sUh)

269 "247 I'd just legalize drugs outright. Drug usage would go up some, I'm sure, and I don't like seeing people throw their lives away. But people who don't want to be sober wont be, the current system makes it hard for people who need drugs for medical purposes to get them, and I'm tired of funding a para-military police force that has no regard for my rights. (I'm confident my "solution" would have problems; I just think trying to protect junkies from themselves likely does more harm net.)"

I agree completely. I noted that in the recent referendum on whether mj should be decriminalized in California, the largest financial contributions came from the Security (ie Jail) officers unions.

We have gotten to the point that many of drug laws exist for the only reason that they are a very easy way to keep pumping a lot of money into the politically active groups that administer the drug laws.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2017 11:12 PM (V2Yro)

270 There was a NY Times editorial back during that time that was basically, "Yeah, these damn sots deserve what they get".
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:04 PM (8O3HH)

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The NYT. On the right side of history. Even back then.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2017 11:12 PM (zmvwV)

271 Not ideal - but it stops the bleeding. Probably cheaper than the way we're doing it now, too.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (fA1SL)

AND TAX IT!!!

Posted by: *hic* at December 11, 2017 11:12 PM (zCyNd)

272 Can't do painkillers either. When I went under the knife I just bought a big bag of weed.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (6FqZa)

273 >>From Cochrane.org


Don't trust those people.

I've been reading on the internets tht they are behind the carrots in the Chili.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (q3Awe)

274 262 It is important to distinguish between people who really need the pain meds, and those who get the prescription from a willing doctor just to get high.
Posted by: The Painless Hat at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (itfg0)


Many humans can probably do that. And no system of rules can possibly do that. That's the problem.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (Vb4BV)

275 I am going to type this slowly, for your benefit.



Please. Show. Links. That. Match. Your. Assertions.



Thank you.

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (ohP/V)

I did... the fact that that information from a credible source does not match your preconception is not my problem to fix.

If you want a link for my second assertion, look up the federal governments drug survey yourself.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (FTXAT)

276 117 So, I'm basically broke and doing minimal Christmas this year. What do I get 16 yo grandson?

Posted by: Infidel


Just a thought. Remember the old mix tapes? How about doing something similar with digital from itunes or wherever. I mean some of the old classic rock and roll that he might not even know exists. Heck, a lot of people have LP's and you can digitize them. I digitized some of my LP's years ago. It involved cabling your stereo system to your computer and using some free software. Haven't done it in years.

Getting stuff from online sources is easier and not that expensive.

It depends on your grandson, but a lot of kids like people like Eddie Cochran, Chuck Berry, and the like, once they hear them.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 11:14 PM (+lVUW)

277 255 I don't know how people can handle munching on pain killers. I hate those things. The few times they were prescribed I never finished the bottle. 1-2 days and I was done with that shit. I guess some people react differently. Me, I can't hang with Dr Percocetti.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (aMlLZ)

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Way back when, I was in the ER because I'd chopped the tip off a finger. I kept telling them no pain meds, which confused them until one nurse, wisely, asked if I'd been chemically dependent. Soon as I said "Yes" they left me alone.

Anyway, ever since my days of drugs, I just cannot tolerate pain pills. They just knock me for a loops and I do not like it. And the drug hangover the next day? I'd rather a regular hangover.

Posted by: blake at December 11, 2017 11:14 PM (WEBkv)

278 I say legalize it all. It takes the power to fuck with you away from the cops and government.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 11, 2017 11:14 PM (aMlLZ)

279 Hmm, votermom was pimping a WWII book a few weeks ago. Can't remember what it was. He is a WWII buff. I got him a bio of Audey Murphy (sp) last year.

-
If he likes that sort of thing, you could do worse than Guadalcanal by Rjchard B. Frank.

http://amzn.to/2kqQZR0

In addition to being generally well written, I like this book because it is very balanced as to the Yanks and the Japs and because there are good descriptions of air, land, and naval combat. In my opinion, this book strikes a very good balance between the personal war stories and the big picture.

Or Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier about a half Frog half Kraut soldier on the Eastern Front. This book is a classic despite some translation difficulties; i.e., a grenade thrower is a mortar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe today! Covfefe tomorrow! Covfefe forever! at December 11, 2017 11:14 PM (+y/Ru)

280 Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (+azJs)

I assume that is her dude. Never heard of him . Is he a liberal blogger?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 11:14 PM (2DOZq)

281 274 262 It is important to distinguish between people who really need the pain meds, and those who get the prescription from a willing doctor just to get high.
Posted by: The Painless Hat at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (itfg0)

Many humans can probably do that. And no system of rules can possibly do that. That's the problem.
Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (Vb4BV)


Absolutely agree.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:15 PM (+azJs)

282 When I had my last root canal the dentist prescribed one of the variants of Tylenol. My wife asked me why I would get that and I said because I don't like pain and the dentist prescribed it.
I don't think I finished the prescription.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:15 PM (nBr1j)

283 Can't do painkillers either. When I went under the knife I just bought a big bag of weed.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (6FqZa)

Sniff.. Sneeze... Need Kleenex...

Posted by: not Ragweed, one hopes at December 11, 2017 11:15 PM (zCyNd)

284 >> I say legalize it all. It takes the power to fuck with you away from the cops and government.


Makes more sense than legalizing petty larceny.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:16 PM (q3Awe)

285 280. Anti-sjw member of the 'skeptics'/atheists - youtuber.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:16 PM (fA1SL)

286 nobody has the end all answer to substance abuse. everybody is different. it all ends the same.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 11:16 PM (KP5rU)

287 nerdygirl, good idea, I will check into that. Lord knows I have the time right now.

*sighs*

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2017 11:16 PM (Ix4M6)

288 Zman should be the next Supreme Court Justice.

He proves it with that quote.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 11, 2017 11:17 PM (E1Dpx)

289 I will say, I do not have a lot of experience with opiods- just for kidney stones primarily. But there seems to be opiods and opiods.

I know when I have used percocet for kidney stones, it seems like I can still feel the pain, it is just not overwhelming.

However, the only time I went to the hospital for one, I was damn glad I went. I had tried to just gut it out, as usual, and the damn thing did not move- for six hours. Then I went to the hospital and waited in the waiting room for 2 hours before getting a CT scan (which was a bitch to sit still for.)

When I got back to a room, the doctor literally introduced himself as Dr Payne. He said I had a very large stone (4.5mm) and that he was not sure if he could fully remove the pain. He said he had a cocktail he used (Fentanyl and Dilaudid, IIRC.) He was selling himself short. 3 seconds after that stuff hit, I felt NOTHING. I am not ashamed to admit I passed out. Going from a 10 to 0 on the pain scale reminded me I had been awake for over 24 hours at that point.

I can understand not wanting to pass them out like candy, but they can be a lifesaver when you need them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 11, 2017 11:17 PM (ZgKFD)

290 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (8+Ozj)

Sorry; Wrong thread.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (8+Ozj)

Great! FS is talking to herself again.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 11, 2017 11:17 PM (QCX64)

291 Don't trust those people.



I've been reading on the internets tht they are behind the carrots in the Chili.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (q3Awe)

LOL... they may well be so you are probably correct to not to try any recipes found on their website. For medical studies,k though, you are probably safe to go there. They are a non-profit NGO formed to compile medical research findings.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:18 PM (FTXAT)

292 264 I remember the government spraying the herbicide
paraquat on marijuana back in the 70s. There were a lot of comments
like, 'Fucking potheads are breaking the law. They deserve to be
poisoned."

Posted by: rickl


This is True.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 11, 2017 11:18 PM (0ogQG)

293 Way back when, I was in the ER because I'd chopped the tip off a finger. I kept telling them no pain meds, which confused them until one nurse, wisely, asked if I'd been chemically dependent. Soon as I said "Yes" they left me alone.

Anyway, ever since my days of drugs, I just cannot tolerate pain pills. They just knock me for a loops and I do not like it. And the drug hangover the next day? I'd rather a regular hangover.

Posted by: blake at December 11, 2017 11:14 PM (WEBkv)


Ironically, the best I ever felt on pain killers was when I screwed up a finger on an electric planer (long story), and had to have a skin graft to save the fingerprint area on my index finger. They weren't going to do anything until I mentioned the guitar, so they flew in a specialist. No clue what he prescribed, but I went on an intergalactic cruise with that shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 11, 2017 11:18 PM (aMlLZ)

294 That should have been a thread by ace
It still might be.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 11, 2017 11:18 PM (QCX64)

295 282 When I had my last root canal the dentist prescribed one of the variants of Tylenol. My wife asked me why I would get that and I said because I don't like pain and the dentist prescribed it.
I don't think I finished the prescription.
Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:15 PM (nBr1j)

--I don't do acetaminophen.

I'd rather wreck my liver with booze, thank you very much.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 11:18 PM (GsAUU)

296 Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (+azJs)

I assume that is her dude. Never heard of him . Is he a liberal blogger?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 11:14 PM (2DOZq)


Yup. On YouTube. He's another one of those anti-SJW liberals who realized that they'd probably be the first against the wall.

That's not to say that they can't be informative or insightful. I listen to Sargon of Akkad and Bearing on YouTube despite their schtick being entirely "anti-SJW" without a whiff of conservative thought, who only focus on the SJWs because the SJWs are perceived as the greater threat.

Posted by: The Video Hat at December 11, 2017 11:19 PM (itfg0)

297 Be well you Morons. I'm waiting for the cookbook to arrive. The wife tells me it may not be appropriate for the niece and nephews.

I say f*#$ it let them know what a Moron I am!

Be well all and prayers for all on Slap's prayer list.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at December 11, 2017 11:19 PM (yJ1e6)

298 Or Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier about a half
Frog half Kraut soldier on the Eastern Front. This book is a classic
despite some translation difficulties; i.e., a grenade thrower is a
mortar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

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Great book. I'm reading about Operation Typhoon right now. One of my favorite big picture/little picture occurrences came while reading about Manstein's conquest of the Crimea from 11th Army's perspective while reading about the same battles from a corporal's perspective. Manstein's perspective was much safer, LOL.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 11, 2017 11:19 PM (KAi1n)

299 278: right you are. if people want to desroy their lives and themselves, who am i to stop them. the cops and the government spend bag loads of money and resources chasing ghosts.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 11:20 PM (KP5rU)

300 Great! FS is talking to herself again.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 11, 2017 11:17 PM (QCX64)

Not that I never talk to myself, but my response was in the right thread, after all. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:20 PM (8+Ozj)

301 295 282 When I had my last root canal the dentist prescribed one of the variants of Tylenol. My wife asked me why I would get that and I said because I don't like pain and the dentist prescribed it.
I don't think I finished the prescription.
Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:15 PM (nBr1j)

--I don't do acetaminophen.

I'd rather wreck my liver with booze, thank you very much.
Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 11:18 PM (GsAUU)

Most employers are more tolerant of a small bottle of pain killer than a bottle of rum.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:20 PM (nBr1j)

302 I'm old enough that I was given a dose of morphine sulfate at the hospital for intractable acute pain.
I don't remember the accident, or any pain - I remember looking at an xray film of the injury, and seeing a four foot tall Woody Woodpecker walking thru the walls. Neither affected me much.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:21 PM (fA1SL)

303 Legalize all drugs for anyone between 18 and 35. Ban Narcan. Let the culling begin.

Posted by: Flush Those Millennial Turds at December 11, 2017 11:21 PM (qYCgM)

304 I'd rather wreck my liver with booze, thank you very much.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 11:18 PM (GsAUU)

Endorsed-It is the way of our people.

Posted by: Miklos on behalf of all true Hunagarians at December 11, 2017 11:21 PM (zCyNd)

305 255 I don't know how people can handle munching on pain killers. I hate those things. The few times they were prescribed I never finished the bottle. 1-2 days and I was done with that shit. I guess some people react differently. Me, I can't hang with Dr Percocetti.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 11, 2017 11:09 PM (aMlLZ)


Yeah, I was in the hospital for a week back in October, and I took *one* pain pill. I forget what it was. It may have been an opioid. Anyway, what I had was more of a general "soreness" or "discomfort" than "pain".

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2017 11:21 PM (sdi6R)

306 280 Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:11 PM (+azJs)

I assume that is her dude. Never heard of him . Is he a liberal blogger?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 11, 2017 11:14 PM (2DOZq)


He was pretty influential in the atheist youtube community at one point. His problem is nobody watches atheism videos any more and he hasn't put the effort into thinking through his other positions carefully, so he tries to be a "moderate" in everything and just comes off looking ignorant.

The funny thing is when they first started dating loads of women left comments on Sh0e's channel drooling over him. He's gained some weight since then, though.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:21 PM (+azJs)

307 Did they take the skin from your butt, Berserker?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 11, 2017 11:22 PM (QCX64)

308 >>Ironically, the best I ever felt on pain killers was when I screwed up a finger on an electric planer (long story), and had to have a skin graft to save the fingerprint area on my index finger. They weren't going to do anything until I mentioned the guitar, so they flew in a specialist. No clue what he prescribed, but I went on an intergalactic cruise with that shit.


Piker.

Posted by: Tony Iommi at December 11, 2017 11:22 PM (q3Awe)

309 I did... the fact that that information from a credible source does not match your preconception is not my problem to fix.

If you want a link for my second assertion, look up the federal governments drug survey yourself.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (FTXAT)

-------

I find it cute that you think this is true.

Whatever the case, I hope you have a great night. Be welll

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 11:22 PM (ohP/V)

310 It is important to distinguish between people who really need the pain meds, and those who get the prescription from a willing doctor just to get high.
Posted by: The Painless Hat at December 11, 2017 11:10 PM (itfg0)

-------------------------------

Was in the ER a few days ago, mom, not me, nothing serious, fortunately, and a gal came in moaning in pain. Within a couple of minutes I was sure the gal was faking in order to get a fix, but mom, innocent that she is was somewhat alarmed and made me go get a nurse, which was hilarious in its own right.

Nurse just interrogated the crap out of the girl and got a bunch of answers that made absolutely no sense. In fact,

it was almost like it wasn't the first rodeo for the nurse.

Anyway, within a few minutes, mom and I spotted little miss "writhing i pain" peaking around the corner to make sure the coast was clear then she cleared out. It was quite the eye-opener for mom.

Posted by: blake at December 11, 2017 11:22 PM (WEBkv)

311 --there's research going on to extract the pain-killing properties of Cannabis without the high.



That would be a breakthrough and help end these medical opioids.

Posted by: logprof

///
Unfortunately, cannabis makes me more sensitive to all stimuli (particularly pleasing my girlfriend), including pain. Hell, I can't even eat mild Indian food when I'm stoned; toooo spicy. A papercut? Excruciating. Had all 4 of my wisdom teeth and a bicuspid removed one day sophomore year. No pain, no swelling, and no evidence that I had had serious teeth removal that day except I could only eat soft food for a few days. They gave me Darvocet. I gave it away. Bud Light had more effect.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 11, 2017 11:23 PM (KAi1n)

312 Most employers are more tolerant of a small bottle of pain killer than a bottle of rum.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:20 PM (nBr1j)

Gummi Bears marinated in vodka

Posted by: Miklos , well, no comment at December 11, 2017 11:24 PM (zCyNd)

313 Damnit that stupid Fox poll has me worried about Alabama. And I don't even like Moore. I just don't want the stinking Dems to win this one.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 11, 2017 11:24 PM (P8951)

314 305 255 I don't know how people can handle munching on pain killers. I hate those things.
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A knee replacement where you're black, blue & purple from your heel to your groin

Or your back is so fucked up you can't walk 100' without stopping

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2017 11:24 PM (3/sUh)

315 The funny thing is when they first started dating loads of women left comments on Sh0e's channel drooling over him. He's gained some weight since then, though.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:21 PM (+azJs)

--So she's a good cook?

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 11:25 PM (GsAUU)

316
Gummi Bears marinated in vodka
Posted by: Miklos , well, no comment at December 11, 2017 11:24 PM (zCyNd)

I like it.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:25 PM (nBr1j)

317 >>Damnit that stupid Fox poll has me worried about Alabama.


Don't be. It's a typical 'Suppress the Vote' style Poll from a Liberal News org.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:25 PM (q3Awe)

318 From the looks of it, Ann Coulter does not think food is important.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 11, 2017 11:25 PM (P8951)

319 I find it cute that you think this is true.



Whatever the case, I hope you have a great night. Be welll

Posted by: Side draft at December 11, 2017 11:22 PM (ohP/V)

And yet you offer no evidence that it is not true... only condescension. You will win no arguments around these parts like that.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:25 PM (FTXAT)

320 >> But there seems to be opiods and opiods.

It varies from person to person. All the compounds basically hit the same receptors, but there are slight differences, which can make them very different for different people. Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper.

Over the course of the 15+ years I've this RA with my joints being slowly destroyed, I've tried them all and have learned which is the best. Well, what gives the most bang for the least amount, and the least side effects (nausea, constipation, etc).

IIRC, hydrocodone, in a dose enough to do anything, will make so nauseated I get the dry heaves. Oxycodone will make me so constipated it's terrible. But no too nauseated.

The one I have now, and the one that works the best for me is one still on patent, dubbed "Nucynta". Expensive as hell, but it's the one that gee haws with my unique biochemistry the best. So far.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:26 PM (8O3HH)

321 @254 and @255.....

Alibaba and the Cali Cartel at their finest.......

BUT, it's poor White Folks dying.......(predominantly)......

SO, it don't fit the narrative.

In fact, those MSM fuckers see it as a "Good start"....

PDT His Hairness, at least addressed the Opioid Elephant, way more than Barry The Racist ever did.

BUT, even so.......nothing changed. INSANITY as normal.

Weed is still a Schedule I..........And Congress makes it tougher for the DEA to go after Rogue Pharmaceutical Companies......(those that have FUCKED poor folks across America...)

Yep.....Down is definitely STILL up, y'all......

It can be a moral an intellectually challenging endeavor to step outside ones perception zone and see the World As It Really Is.....
The Truth isn't always very fuckin pretty.

Most choose not too.....an I don't blame them.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 11, 2017 11:26 PM (IlqBS)

322 Don't be. It's a typical 'Suppress the Vote' style Poll from a Liberal News org.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:25 PM (q3Awe)

Are you aware that this part of Fox is under discussion for sale to Disney?

Posted by: Miklos , well, many sck comments at December 11, 2017 11:26 PM (zCyNd)

323 I had a serious back spasm about six or seven years ago. I was in excruciating pain for about three months. I only used OTC painkillers-nothing worked until one day the pain stopped.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:27 PM (nBr1j)

324 Garrett, it's a Fox News poll.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 11, 2017 11:27 PM (P8951)

325
On employer tolerance: when Her Majesty was working at her company's refinery you could be fired for having a bullet, let alone a gun, in your car or truck. "What are you going to do with an unchambered bullet?" I asked. "Throw it?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 11:27 PM (1FOJL)

326 273 >>From Cochrane.org


Don't trust those people.

I've been reading on the internets tht they are behind the carrots in the Chili.
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:13 PM (q3Awe)

****

I believe that's Zefram Cochrane.org

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 11, 2017 11:28 PM (0YSzp)

327 >>it's a Fox News poll.


It's a Fox News Poll that samples Alabama (+28 R) voters at a + 2 R rate.

It might as well be a poll from the NYT for all its honesty.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:29 PM (q3Awe)

328 315 The funny thing is when they first started dating loads of women left comments on Sh0e's channel drooling over him. He's gained some weight since then, though.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:21 PM (+azJs)

--So she's a good cook?
Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 11:25 PM (GsAUU)


I seriously doubt it. More likely it's a case of "now that I have a GF there's no reason to skip that second helping. I know the thought process well.

I used to work at a place that made electronics. All the people in assembly were Mexican ladies, and you could tell who got a divorce, because she would suddenly drop forty pounds or so. Then she'd get remarried and gain it all back.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:29 PM (+azJs)

329 "What are you going to do with an unchambered bullet?" I asked. "Throw it?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 11:27 PM (1FOJL)

Here-hold my beer...

Posted by: An ER all-time classic at December 11, 2017 11:29 PM (zCyNd)

330 On a much lighter note......

How About Those Fuckin Fins!!!!!!!

Tommy The GOAT had a Human Game......

It happens to the Best of US.....from time to time.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 11, 2017 11:29 PM (IlqBS)

331 In what way, Hadrian?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 10:30 PM (8+Ozj)

I was baptized a Catholic though I have been lapsed for many, many years. During that time, I married Her Majesty. She is not, has never been and is highly unlikely to become a Catholic. She is also previously married and divorced and her ex is still alive.

The Church does not therefore recognize my marriage. Strictly speaking, I am an adulterer. I cannot go to Confession nor receive Communion. Her previous marriage can be annulled, but it is a lengthy proceeding and the petition may, in fact, be denied, in which case someone has to die, literally.

I accept that. If HM wishes to participate in an annullment of her prior marriage it can only be by her own free choice. I will only lay out what the procedure is and leave the decision to her. Through this and even, perhaps, at the end I and only I can bear the burden; she is blameless.

I'm kinda in the same position except my "new" wife is Catholic like. I'm divorced from my first wife, a converted from Lutheran
catholic although I don't think she (the ex) gives a shit either way. I do take Communion-waiting for the lightning bolts-- I guess I'll have to answer that one at the end. I also think MOST of the "rules" are and have been made up by mortal men. I do know that I answerto God,not man.

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at December 11, 2017 11:30 PM (CL76w)

332 >> Or your back is so fucked up you can't walk 100' without stopping

I could try to describe a RA flare that comes on suddenly while sleeping (as it likes to do), where just getting out of bed to walk to the kitchen to get the pills is like an ordeal of fire or something, and seems to take an hour.

But it would take too long, and no one would really appreciate it until they've experienced it.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:30 PM (8O3HH)

333 I hurt my back in college and spent a few years going to a chiropractor. I know a lot of people are skeptical about that, but I think it helped in my case. Eventually I didn't have any more pain and I stopped going.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2017 11:30 PM (sdi6R)

334 this shit is depressing,yo.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 11:31 PM (KP5rU)

335 When I hurt my back it probably took 15 minutes for me to get out of bed.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:31 PM (nBr1j)

336 Well, hopefully the Moore voters are motivated to get out the vote.

I have to say that in addition to his leftist stands, Doug Jones is a a really odd looking man. I don't really care about looks that much, but it's a bad combination-odd looks and weirder politics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:31 PM (8+Ozj)

337 Well, that makes me feel better, Garrett. Good night,horde.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 11, 2017 11:31 PM (P8951)

338 Zefram Cochrane.org

We are not affiliated in any way.

Posted by: tehe Estate of Efraim Zimbalist, Jr. at December 11, 2017 11:31 PM (zCyNd)

339 Damnit that stupid Fox poll has me worried about Alabama.
The poll was only something like R+2 when Trump won the state by, IIRC, +30 so don't get too worried.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 11, 2017 11:32 PM (QCX64)

340
WHen you're having one of those episodes, you want to shoot the people who say stuff like "pain builds character."

Fuck your character, and fuck you.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:32 PM (8O3HH)

341 333 I hurt my back in college and spent a few years going to a chiropractor. I know a lot of people are skeptical about that, but I think it helped in my case. Eventually I didn't have any more pain and I stopped going.
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2017 11:30 PM (sdi6R)

---------

Stopped going?

You're doing it wrong!

Posted by: The American Chiropractic Society at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (zmvwV)

342 335 When I hurt my back it probably took 15 minutes for me to get out of bed.
Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:31 PM (nBr1j)


Yeah, I had some episodes like that.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (sdi6R)

343 336: i'm not gonna say alien, but, ALIEN. centauri probably.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (KP5rU)

344 It varies from person to person. All the compounds
basically hit the same receptors, but there are slight differences,
which can make them very different for different people. Coke, Pepsi,
Dr. Pepper.



Over the course of the 15+ years I've this RA with my joints being
slowly destroyed, I've tried them all and have learned which is the
best. Well, what gives the most bang for the least amount, and the least
side effects (nausea, constipation, etc).



IIRC, hydrocodone, in a dose enough to do anything, will make so
nauseated I get the dry heaves. Oxycodone will make me so constipated
it's terrible. But no too nauseated.



The one I have now, and the one that works the best for me is one
still on patent, dubbed "Nucynta". Expensive as hell, but it's the one
that gee haws with my unique biochemistry the best. So far.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:26 PM (8O3HH)

When my son was in pain between back surgeries, the only thing that worked for him was fentanyl patches.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (FTXAT)

345 >>When I hurt my back it probably took 15 minutes for me to get out of bed.


I could tell you stories. I ruptured my disc at L 4/5 at 32.

95% of it was removed. I almost choked one of my doctors for cutting off my pain meds while making me wait 6 months for surgery.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (q3Awe)

346 325
On employer tolerance: when Her Majesty was working at her company's refinery you could be fired for having a bullet, let alone a gun, in your car or truck. "What are you going to do with an unchambered bullet?" I asked. "Throw it?"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 11:27 PM (1FOJL)


My current employer is like that too. For years we had guys shipping crates of ammo to work (because somebody had to be there to receive), but after one of those school shooting freakouts the guys in the C-Suite changed the rules such that having a stray cartridge rolling around in your trunk was an instant firing offense.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (+azJs)

347 Fuck your character, and fuck you.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:32 PM (8O3HH)

Heh

Posted by: pain at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (zCyNd)

348 > My son wants an i-phone which is terribly expensive and he hasn't done well with phones. He either loses them or they get destroyed. We said "No phone except for a flip phone" and he hasn't asked for anything else.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I was a math geek when I wasn't playing footbalm. No idea about your son, but... Astronomy, astrophysics: very orderly and math intensive. Meterology: get a local home observation kit that logs readings to a home computer. Compare daily min mean max to various long term averages.

Posted by: geek santa at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (3wPE7)

349 335 When I hurt my back it probably took 15 minutes for me to get out of bed.
Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:31 PM (nBr1j)

--------

You rich guys with all your "beds" and shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2017 11:34 PM (zmvwV)

350 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:30 PM (8O3HH)

I don't have RA, but I have Lyme. I can't even stand up to get out of bed sometime I'm in so much pain and when i finally d,o I limp for about 10 minutes so I think I can relate a bit.

I am sorry for your pain.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:34 PM (8+Ozj)

351 SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940279479318011904

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940279573324992512

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940279673900163072

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940279788987731973

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940279891714564097

Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2017 11:35 PM (eh0Va)

352 I don't have RA, but I have Lyme. I can't even stand
up to get out of bed sometime I'm in so much pain and when i finally
d,o I limp for about 10 minutes so I think I can relate a bit.



I am sorry for your pain.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:34 PM (8+Ozj)

Chronic pain stinks on ice:-(

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:35 PM (FTXAT)

353 332 >> Or your back is so fucked up you can't walk 100' without stopping

I could try to describe a RA flare that comes on suddenly while sleeping (as it likes to do), where just getting out of bed to walk to the kitchen to get the pills is like an ordeal of fire or something, and seems to take an hour.

But it would take too long, and no one would really appreciate it until they've experienced it.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:30 PM (8O3HH)


Sounds like a good reason to keep the pills on the bed stand.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:36 PM (+azJs)

354 And for those that GAF.....

I'd start Dan Marino on my GREATEST 11 Offense......(Coaches, Era, ETC, aside).....

Others will have Joe Cool, Tommy GOAT, Brett Unbreakable, Otto Awesome, and So Many Justifiable Others......legit picks.

But Danny Boy could flat out fuckin throw it. No argument.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 11, 2017 11:36 PM (IlqBS)

355 More SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940279984828092416

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940280132199206913

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940280240559017984

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/940280343986364417

Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2017 11:36 PM (eh0Va)

356 333 I hurt my back in college and spent a few years going to a chiropractor. I know a lot of people are skeptical about that, but I think it helped in my case. Eventually I didn't have any more pain and I stopped going.
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2017 11:30 PM (sdi6R)

--When I think of chiropractics as somewhat more advanced massage, I think it's legit.

When people start talking about it as treating gastritis and stuff like that, it's bullshit.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2017 11:36 PM (GsAUU)

357 Hey everybody.

For the first time in a long time, making my (in)famous chili tonight. My sister said she could smell it outside.

This time I'm doin' it up super deluxe with *two* kinds of beans (chili beans and Bush's frijoles del diablo) and two kinds of chiles (jalapeños and serranos). I also added two jars of Mrs. Renfro's habanero salsa and the usual two bottles of Modelo dark.

Just took my first taste, it's coming together well. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 11, 2017 11:37 PM (eMKNe)

358 >>-When I think of chiropractics as somewhat more advanced massage, I think it's legit.



If you ever need a Chiro, look for one who ascribes to the Blair Method.

Shit works.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:38 PM (q3Awe)

359 It's coming' up on almost 2 weeks, so I hope to have copies of my new script available soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 11, 2017 11:38 PM (eMKNe)

360 Brady looks falliable

Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2017 11:38 PM (yM/Yl)

361 >> I am sorry for your pain.

Thanks Fen, don't worry. I'm resigned to the cards I've been dealt. Luck of the draw.

I don't like to sound like this, but I am trying to make a point for those who don't understand stuff like this. They don't have a clue sometimes, and it helps to try to paint a picture. Some times. That's my purpose here.

Thanks, but I'm okay. Don't worry.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:38 PM (8O3HH)

362 "What are you going to do with an unchambered bullet?" I asked. "Throw it?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 11:27 PM (1FOJL)


Put it in someone's tofu burger.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 11, 2017 11:38 PM (8gDQu)

363 Primordial: "more bullets mean more iron!" ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (eMKNe)

364 Posted by: geek santa at December 11, 2017 11:33 PM (3wPE7)

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (8+Ozj)

365 I have to catch a plan in about 12 hours, which means I have to be at the airport in 10 so I better get to bed.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (nBr1j)

366 seeing a four foot tall Woody Woodpecker walking thru the walls

Wait, that's not normal?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (IcT7t)

367 >>Brady looks falliable


I would fallate the hell out of that.

Posted by: Shep Smith at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (q3Awe)

368 IIRC, Viagra current indication was a *good* sexual side effect of the drug they were tinkering with for some other purpose.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear


I wonder how often a drug that is used for one problem turns out to help another. i had a dog years ago that had corneal damage due to his eyes not producing tears.

There was a medication that I had to apply that solved the problem.
As I remember it was a drug that was used in humans for something else, but they discovered that it could help eye problems. it was okayed for use for dogs' eye problems, but hadn't yet been okayed for use in humans' eye problems.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (+lVUW)

369 Northernlurker, just don't go down for any of those funky kicks in the city... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 11, 2017 11:40 PM (eMKNe)

370 Night all.

Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:40 PM (nBr1j)

371 It's coming' up on almost 2 weeks, so I hope to have copies of my new script available soon.

There's such a thing as photocopiers now. You don't have to use scribes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 11, 2017 11:41 PM (IcT7t)

372 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:38 PM (8O3HH)

You're a good man.

Goodnight.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2017 11:42 PM (8+Ozj)

373 To kbdabear-


Thank you for this round of topics for deep consideration.

On this basis, I have decided to apply to the Ph.D. program in Librarian Science at Moscow State University.

Posted by: Miklos, with rusty Russian at December 11, 2017 11:42 PM (zCyNd)

374 Notation above said Portugal was still dealing with secondary addiction problems, cirrhosis, liver cancer, and hepatitis C.

I thought those problems occurred because of impure street drugs and bad health discipline. I have never heard of chronic pain sufferers who take opioids being at risk of cirrhosis or liver cancer.

Posted by: gNewt at December 11, 2017 11:42 PM (VAm5e)

375 I wonder how often a drug that is used for one problem turns out to help another.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (+lVUW)


Most of the time ... which tells you all you really need to know about how accurate medical research tends to be.

The complexity of the human body is not to be underestimated.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 11, 2017 11:42 PM (8gDQu)

376 365 I have to catch a plan in about 12 hours, which means I have to be at the airport in 10 so I better get to bed.
Posted by: Northernlurker, am I lurking or am I skulking at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (nBr1j)


Sounds like a plan!

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2017 11:42 PM (sdi6R)

377 >> I wonder how often a drug that is used for one problem turns out to help another.

You'd be surprised at how many drugs they don't really know exactly how or why the work. They've have theories, but no real proof.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:43 PM (8O3HH)

378 Blanco, my fingers are dancin' as fast as they can...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 11, 2017 11:43 PM (eMKNe)

379 366. For an 8 year old, probably not optimal. I recall being amazed that I wasn't amazed.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:43 PM (fA1SL)

380 357 What kind of carrots are you using?

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 11:43 PM (kUotE)

381 365 I have to catch a plan

Is what I say myself, on days not "Mamadays"

Posted by: Macron is shorter than Rubio at December 11, 2017 11:44 PM (zCyNd)

382 just watched the mesa cop shooting vid. that cop needs prison time for that shit. that was fucking murder. straight up.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 11, 2017 11:44 PM (KP5rU)

383
I wonder how often a drug that is used for one problem turns out to help another. i had a dog years ago that had corneal damage due to his eyes not producing tears.

There was a medication that I had to apply that solved the problem.
As I remember it was a drug that was used in humans for something else, but they discovered that it could help eye problems. it was okayed for use for dogs' eye problems, but hadn't yet been okayed for use in humans' eye problems.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (+lVUW)


In 1986 Congress passed a the Orphan Drug Act. The idea was it's not normally profitable to develop a drug for a small market, i.e. for a disease not too many people suffer from. So if you were developing a treatment for a low volume disease you get extra long patent rights.

Some of those drugs turned out to be useful for treating things like diabetes and high blood pressure, but the drug company still got the extra patent protection.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:44 PM (+azJs)

384 The plan! The plan!

Posted by: Tattoo at December 11, 2017 11:45 PM (IqV8l)

385 377. Aspirin comes to mind. Hell, my daily dose of armodafinil has no really clear mode of action - just lots of theories.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:45 PM (fA1SL)

386 thanks for all the Kindle suggestions... i was in the middle of making HRH dinner, so i forgot to mention the part about i was going to download what someone else wanted, and send them the file.

if i was going to get a graphic novel, i'd go to megatokyo.com and buy one of his books.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2017 11:46 PM (ZeU5D)

387 384. 'The tooth! The tooth!' - Dr. Yueh.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:46 PM (fA1SL)

388 Aspirin comes to mind.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:45 PM (fA1SL)


Aspirin would never pass the FDA if it came out today. People would be reduced to gnawing on willow bark.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 11, 2017 11:46 PM (8gDQu)

389 Even if I didn't like you reprobates, I'd stay for the Dune refs.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2017 11:47 PM (q3Awe)

390 I am pretty sure the drug itself is not the problem, but rather how people use/prescribe them.

Where have I heard that before...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


I agree with you, at least for some people. I have a relative who i suspect had been addicted to prescription drugs in the past.

I've seen her in action with any kind of medication. She takes as much as she can get away with. She exercises no restraint. The thing is, she's like that with everything, spending, eating. Whatever she does, she tends to not exercise restraint. i don't think that people who genuinely need muscle relaxants or valium should be denied, because she has a problem.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 11:47 PM (+lVUW)

391 There's such a thing as photocopiers now. You don't have to use scribes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 11, 2017 11:41 PM (IcT7t)

Hey paisan-

You no wanna cross Trappists wit' a union.

Shit happens, nobody talks.

Posted by: Miklos, monk and CFO at December 11, 2017 11:47 PM (zCyNd)

392 Johnny, the invisible nonexistent kind. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 11, 2017 11:47 PM (eMKNe)

393 if aspirin was brought to the FDA today, it would either be a prescription drug, or not approved at all, due to all its bad side effects.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2017 11:47 PM (ZeU5D)

394 Aspirin would never pass the FDA if it came out today. People would be reduced to gnawing on willow bark.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 11, 2017 11:46 PM (8gDQu)

This.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:48 PM (FTXAT)

395 392 Those are my favorites!

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 11:48 PM (kUotE)

396 384. 'The tooth! The tooth!' - Dr. Yueh.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:46 PM (fA1SL)

"Waste and fraud in the federal Tooth Fairy Support Program For the Children estimated a $1.6 billion in the period 2005-2005"

Posted by: Office of the Tooth fairy Inspector General at December 11, 2017 11:50 PM (zCyNd)

397 389. We Morons have a saying: 'HQ was created to test the pantsless.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:50 PM (fA1SL)

398 Johnny, the invisible nonexistent kind. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 11, 2017 11:47 PM (eMKNe)

The only kind of carrots that don't ruin chili

Posted by: redbanzai at December 11, 2017 11:50 PM (FTXAT)

399 I have just folded space from the kit-chen. Many new dishes in the sink.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:52 PM (fA1SL)

400 We Morons have a saying: 'HQ was created to test the pantsless.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 11, 2017 11:50 PM (fA1SL)

Arrivistes

Posted by: Les sans culottes at December 11, 2017 11:52 PM (zCyNd)

401
The War On Drugs is an industry and it's value is mixed at best. Maybe worse than the problem. Dunno what the answer is. I know what I'd like, but that may not be best for the whole. Dunno.

Posted by: otho at December 11, 2017 11:53 PM (qGuLD)

402 I, on occasion, am bodyslammed to the ground, quite literally, by a sciatic condition that can brake me from sixty to zero in less time than it takes you to read this run-on sentence.

Oh, and the recurring "pleasure" of past injuries reminding me of youthful follies, with every winter cold front that blows through. Yeah, that's fun, too.

I'd KILL* to have just a simple 'scrip of 500 mg Vicodin on hand for those times. I don't need anything stronger, but nothing less really, has proven to suffice.

*a hobo. /snrk

Give me a bottle of fifty of 'em. They'll last me two to three years.

And now, the medical professionals look at me like I'm a three eyed addicted mudfish if I so much as hint at a request, thereof.

Catch 22, but without the GOOD option.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 11, 2017 11:54 PM (QzJWU)

403 Went camping a couple weeks ago and dude made these beans...

Lots of baked beans
Cooked hamburger
Lima beans
Brown sugar
Various spices

It was chili, but sweet.

I ate better on that camping trip than I have in months.

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 11:55 PM (kUotE)

404 I'm not completely sure what to do, but I KNOW that
we we've been doing ain't working - in fact that strategy has failed
about as spectacularly as it could have.



So I'm willing to see any new ideas tried, because the worst case
scenario is that maybe they'll be just as bad as what we're doing now,
but they won't be any worse.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (V2Yro)


there are certain types of economic thinkers (mostly Austrians) who claim you can never control drugs by strangling the demand, and state this has failed quite a number of times and has never been successful.
They claim you have to control drugs by ending the demand.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2017 11:55 PM (2K6fY)

405 I could try to describe a RA flare that comes on suddenly while sleeping (as it likes to do), where just getting out of bed to walk to the kitchen to get the pills is like an ordeal of fire or something, and seems to take an hour.

But it would take too long, and no one would really appreciate it until they've experienced it.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 11, 2017 11:30 PM (8O3HH)

Sounds like a good reason to keep the pills on the bed stand.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2017 11:36 PM (+azJs)

++++

That could make it too easy to start popping the pills and get into trouble. If you locate the pills in a place not so convenient, it is easier to resist the temptation to take them until you really have to.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 11, 2017 11:55 PM (FUu/Z)

406 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 11, 2017 11:54 PM (QzJWU)

Jim-

Mexico ain't far.


Many of the prescription meds are OTC in MX- you can even see the weekly sale prices on Tiendeo.com.mx and other places.

Posted by: Miklos el yucateco at December 11, 2017 11:57 PM (zCyNd)

407 How awesome were Quaaludes? I'm too young to have experimented with them as they don't make them anymore. Am I missing out, Horde?

Posted by: Monk at December 11, 2017 11:57 PM (g4lFK)

408 This is now a drugs thread.

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 11:59 PM (kUotE)

409 408; yup. and i'm outta here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 12, 2017 12:00 AM (KP5rU)

410 @366....

Plus 1.

The New Normal BB......

An Aside, As Most of The Horde has stated.....when IN PAIN,.....Narcotics are a Good Thing. That's their fuckin Purpose.
Has been since folks figured out how to work that Poppy Plant for all its worth.......

BUT, people tend to fuck a GOOD thing up.....(History, etc)......

It's the Repercussions for Those That NEED something that Suffer....for the Excesses of Others.

Human Nature.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 12, 2017 12:00 AM (IlqBS)

411 This is now a drugs thread.

Posted by: Johnny at December 11, 2017 11:59 PM (kUotE)

Blues for Allah

Posted by: the Grateful Dead at December 12, 2017 12:00 AM (zCyNd)

412 When my back goes, all it takes to get me relief is a mild muscle relaxer - Flexoril - Cyclobenzoprine (sp?) to get me relief.

They give it out like candy to girls for their cramps.

My doctor all but makes me fellate him for 5 of the fuckers.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 12:00 AM (q3Awe)

413 This is now a drugs thread.

*Starts refreshing until I see rainbow trails from scrolling.*

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 12, 2017 12:00 AM (IcT7t)

414 406. Someone totally not me gets some of his meds from Mexico. And also from India - where they don't give a fakir's fuck about pharma patents. Romania, too, is a supplier for one of this handsome and popular fellow's meds. It's stupid and wasteful, but STILL cheaper, even after markups and shipping and all associated risks, than the usual way.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:00 AM (fA1SL)

415 407 How awesome were Quaaludes? I'm too young to have experimented with them as they don't make them anymore. Am I missing out, Horde?
Posted by: Monk at December 11, 2017 11:57 PM (g4lFK)


Once I went to a party in college and took a Quaalude.

I woke up in the hallway a few hours later as the party was breaking up. Whoopee!

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 12:01 AM (sdi6R)

416 One of the funniest things I've ever seen, is the quaalude scene in The Wolf Of Wall Street.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 12, 2017 12:02 AM (eMKNe)

417 I have a great book called the big book of drugs. It's a reference book but funny as hell.

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 12:02 AM (kUotE)

418 404 I'm not completely sure what to do, but I KNOW that
we we've been doing ain't working - in fact that strategy has failed
about as spectacularly as it could have.



So I'm willing to see any new ideas tried, because the worst case
scenario is that maybe they'll be just as bad as what we're doing now,
but they won't be any worse.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2017 10:39 PM (V2Yro)

there are certain types of economic thinkers (mostly Austrians) who claim you can never control drugs by strangling the demand, and state this has failed quite a number of times and has never been successful.
They claim you have to control drugs by ending the demand.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2017 11:55 PM (2K6fY)

How do you end the demand for things that make people feel better, improve their quality of life, and/or gets them high?

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 12:02 AM (g4lFK)

419 How awesome were Quaaludes? I'm too young to have experimented with them as they don't make them anymore. Am I missing out, Horde?


Posted by: Monk at December 11, 2017 11:57 PM


Depends what you're into. They were pretty good for what they are.

Posted by: otho at December 12, 2017 12:03 AM (qGuLD)

420 How awesome were Quaaludes? I'm too young to have experimented with them as they don't make them anymore.

I believe the only place they're still produced is in South Africa.

Am I missing out, Horde?

Posted by: Monk at December 11, 2017 11:57 PM (g4lFK)


I doubt it. I never did Quaaludes, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:04 AM (8gDQu)

421 That could make it too easy to start popping the pills and get into trouble. If you locate the pills in a place not so convenient, it is easier to resist the temptation to take them until you really have to.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 11, 2017 11:55 PM (FUu/Z)


I suppose. Never been subject to those kinds of temptations, myself, though I've had friends get into trouble. I have a high school buddy who I suspect deliberate messed up his ACL (for the fourth time) because he knew after surgery he could get a prescription for Vicodin.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 12:04 AM (+azJs)

422 Tom Servo ,
I cared for my mother the last year of her life, and my father the last 5 and a half years. He lived to almost 98. In my mother's case, she ended up in a nursing home where the nurses were very realistic. They gave her what she needed to be comfortable, but toward the end she seemed to me more fragile and just out of it, than in pain.

My father fortunately wasn't in physical pain. A couple of months before he died, he got a lot weaker. He could no longer get around and was in a bed full time. The doctor had us get Hospice and they were very good. They had what they called a comfort package that included morphine.

I would push the providers, doctors, hard to do what you believe is best for your father. They're afraid of lawsuits. When my mother took a turn for the worse, she was 93, the nursing home nurse, asked me if I wanted her taken to a hospital for tests. I said no, because she was obviously near the end, and there just wasn't any point. After I said no, the nurse told me she was glad I made that choice because once she was taken to the hospital they would do every test and procedure imaginable. It would have been too hard on her.
But the nurse had to ask.

Long story short, you know what is best for your relative. You have to make it clear to them what you want. Tell then point blank that at 84 years old, potential addiction doesn't matter. He needs pain relief. If that doesn't work tell the doctor that he is being cruel to let your relative suffer. Don't just accept their first decision. Push.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2017 12:05 AM (+lVUW)

423 416 One of the funniest things I've ever seen, is the quaalude scene in The Wolf Of Wall Street.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 12, 2017 12:02 AM (eMKNe)

That movie made a strong argument for bringing back the Ludes...... For research of course.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 12:05 AM (g4lFK)

424 My first car was a Honda Quelude, iirc.

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 12:05 AM (kUotE)

425

All in all, I prefer sex to drugs. Sex, rock 'n' roll, then drugs. Well, a lot in between before you get to drugs.

But sex is definitely at the top of the list.

Oh, and heh heh, about keeping things next to my bedside. I am not the most organized person in the world. In fact, if you were a neat freak, well, living with me would be Hell.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:05 AM (8O3HH)

426 I have a high school buddy who I suspect deliberate messed up his ACL (for the fourth time) because he knew after surgery he could get a prescription for Vicodin.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 12:04 AM (+azJs)


That's hard-core!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:06 AM (8gDQu)

427 415 407 How awesome were Quaaludes? I'm too young to have experimented with them as they don't make them anymore. Am I missing out, Horde?
Posted by: Monk at December 11, 2017 11:57 PM (g4lFK)

Once I went to a party in college and took a Quaalude.

I woke up in the hallway a few hours later as the party was breaking up. Whoopee!
Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 12:01 AM (sdi6R)


My roommate in college was very unimpressed with Quaaludes. "What's the point? You feel tired, sit on the couch, and don't do anything for a few hours. My grandparents do that."

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 12:06 AM (+azJs)

428 366 seeing a four foot tall Woody Woodpecker walking thru the walls
Wait, that's not normal?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (IcT7t)

It's just buzzion fucking with you,

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 12, 2017 12:07 AM (hscyr)

429 I, on occasion, am bodyslammed to the ground, quite literally,
-----------

Stop falling through roofs. Just a thought.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 12:08 AM (AI/Vm)

430 I doubt it. I never did Quaaludes, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:04 AM (8gDQu)

Yeah, I said that too.

I lied.

Also I was famous and important once.

Posted by: Hamilton Jordan {pronounced "jerdon") at December 12, 2017 12:08 AM (zCyNd)

431 I once fell out of bed on a Saturday with back pain so severe, it was literally blinding. I had to lie flat on the ground with my head turned to one side or it was -- if I had to experience this level of pain for any prolonged period of time, I'd have killed myself, it was that bad. Gradually, through the course of the day, the nerve (I assume it was a nerve) calmed down and I could eventually stand up. But there were times I was trying to just get to my knees, to crawl to the bathtub so I could crawl into it and urinate, that the pain struck and I was back down to hugging the floor. I really could've used an opioid. Funny thing was, I completely calm and not freaked out by it. Having to pee was ultimately by biggest problem. As long as I could lie flat and still, it would eventually pass (the pain and the urine in my bladder).

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2017 12:08 AM (KAi1n)

432 I enjoy the sober, lucid life now and have for 10 years. Straight edge. Everybody seems to be doing drugs or on something so I go the opposite direction. Just wanted to hear some tales about these Ludes I heard about.

I'm hoping to become an honorary member of generation Z one day.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 12:09 AM (g4lFK)

433 426 I have a high school buddy who I suspect deliberate messed up his ACL (for the fourth time) because he knew after surgery he could get a prescription for Vicodin.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 12:04 AM (+azJs)

That's hard-core!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:06 AM (8gDQu)


That's pathetic, is what it is, and I told him so.

For some reason that surgery was more painful than the others. I guess it's like refrubing parts - you can only grind so much.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 12:10 AM (+azJs)

434
My organization system is just a big messy pile.

However, I know where the hell everything is in that pile.

You mess with it, I keel you. You try to tidy, we is gone tangle.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:10 AM (8O3HH)

435 Once I went to a party in college and took a Quaalude.

I woke up in the hallway a few hours later as the party was breaking up. Whoopee!
Posted by: rickl
----------

It's hard to leave when you can't find the door.

Posted by: Joe Walsh at December 12, 2017 12:11 AM (AI/Vm)

436 431 what a nice story.


(Sorry you had to go through that)

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 12:11 AM (kUotE)

437 @402......

Truth Brother J.....

Certain "endeavors" never go away. Yet, Fucktards dictate "reasonable" treatment.....fuck.

@408 and @409......

LOL, it ain't a drug thread y'all......just LIFE Hordians have in common.

Really, we ain't swappin which India Pharmacy is the Best.....

Unfortunately, some of US suffer......Most of US do so in dignified/responsible manner......I for one, find it cathartic to find others to commune with, THAT UNDERSTAND the trials and tribulations.

My Two Cents,.....no offense intended.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 12, 2017 12:11 AM (IlqBS)

438 I took a Roofie once in highschool. I took it before I took a shower to go out. I woke up dressed the next morning at my desk. My parents said I never left the house.

Eff those things. If the Lude experience is like the Roofie experience then I didnt miss out.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 12:12 AM (g4lFK)

439 /...Mexico ain't far.


Many of the prescription meds are OTC in MX- you can even see the weekly sale prices on Tiendeo.com.mx and other places.

Posted by: Miklos el yucateco at December 11, 2017 11:57 PM (zCyNd)




Know a mule for hire?

I'm not crossing the Northbound border with a stash of drugs on board. Uh-uh!

Frankly, I'm more looking forward to an email from a certain Slavic sword swinging, goulash cooking, recently engaged Uncle, which will tell me the ways of the Romanian Acquisition.

Hell, I already know to go to WalMart and buy the pre-paid Visa for the transaction. Just don't know how much to load it with, nor what site to click to in order to do the deed.

(email in nic, etc.)

Yeah, it won't be here in time for Christmas.

But the real horrid Blue Northers don't tend to hit till late January, anyway.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 12, 2017 12:12 AM (QzJWU)

440 Stop falling through roofs. Just a thought.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 12:08 AM (AI/Vm)

Actually, a thief fell through a roof in the UK in the course of an attempted breakin. Got hurt; sued; was awarded several hundred thousand pounds compensation..

Hard way to make a shilling, though.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, citizen, not denizen at December 12, 2017 12:12 AM (zCyNd)

441 And how about Culter's beard.......no Gray!!!!! Nice........

Just For Men should sign him......

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 12, 2017 12:12 AM (IlqBS)

442 However, I know where the hell everything is in that pile.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:10 AM (8O3HH)


That's the 4th most-repeated lie in the world.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:12 AM (8gDQu)

443 No problem . Just. Don't wait too long...

Shipping this time of year is a roll of the dice!
Posted by: garrett


No kidding. The only time I had ever missed a mortgage payment was a a payment i mailed in December for January 1st. Thing just disappeared somewhere enroute. The mortgage people told me December was bad for mail and waived the late fee.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2017 12:13 AM (+lVUW)

444 >>My roommate in college was very unimpressed with Quaaludes. "What's the point? You feel tired, sit on the couch,


That's why you take it with Mescaline.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 12:13 AM (q3Awe)

445 440 Stop falling through roofs. Just a thought.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 12:08 AM (AI/Vm)

Actually, a thief fell through a roof in the UK in the course of an attempted breakin. Got hurt; sued; was awarded several hundred thousand pounds compensation..

Hard way to make a shilling, though.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar, citizen, not denizen at December 12, 2017 12:12 AM (zCyNd)


They've arranged the laws in the UK such that as a homeowner the smart thing to do is slit his throat and bury him in the garden without ever calling the plod.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 12:14 AM (+azJs)

446 Tell then point blank that at 84 years old, potential addiction doesn't matter. He needs pain relief. If that doesn't work tell the doctor that he is being cruel to let your relative suffer. Don't just accept their first decision. Push.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2017 12:05 AM (+lVUW)
*************

Absolutely. I was caregiver for Mom and I still have lingering doubt. She was prescribed more than ample pain med but I was sometimes hesitant because of all the addiction stories. You know him best; Emphatically, cast those thoughts aside and take care of him.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 12:14 AM (VAm5e)

447 >> That's the 4th most-repeated lie in the world.

It may take me a while to actually retrieve it, but dammit, I know it's there.

Well, okay it's not in this pile of shit. Smarty pants. But it's in that other pile over there. That I know.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:14 AM (8O3HH)

448 I woke up in the hallway a few hours later as the party was breaking up. Whoopee!
Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 12:01 AM (sdi6R)

With your pants around your ankles, a painfully sore butt, and a strange taste deep in the back of your previously un-sore throat?

Posted by: dos 'ludes, man at December 12, 2017 12:15 AM (3wPE7)

449 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:14 AM (8O3HH)

Heh.

Been there ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:16 AM (8gDQu)

450 Just wanted to hear some tales about these Ludes I heard about.

I'm hoping to become an honorary member of generation Z one day.


Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 12:09 AM

Eh... *shrug*. They're pretty good value for getting fucked up and passing out or whatever. If that's all you want to do. Some laughs, some staggering, fall over. They were a effective, often pleasant, but blunt and unsubtle high. Don't miss them, but wouldn't knock them back today, coz they don't make stuff quite like it anymore. But, there are way better drugs.

Posted by: otho at December 12, 2017 12:16 AM (qGuLD)

451 434
My organization system is just a big messy pile.

However, I know where the hell everything is in that pile.

You mess with it, I keel you. You try to tidy, we is gone tangle.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:10 AM (8O3HH)

This is known as The Sedimentary System of Organization and it is highly efficient. Frequently used things are near the top of the pile.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 12, 2017 12:16 AM (tMFgx)

452 I FUCKIN LOVE.....

BELICHICK Post Game Press Conferences....

The Absolute BEST EVER.

14 words.......succinctly said Brother Bill.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 12, 2017 12:17 AM (IlqBS)

453 ...Stop falling through roofs. Just a thought.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 12:08 AM (AI/Vm)




YOU FUTHERMUCKINGBUNOFASITCH!

*you owe me a new monitor, too*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 12, 2017 12:17 AM (QzJWU)

454 448 is why I come here. Moron-licious!

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 12:18 AM (kUotE)

455 MDMA - that's an odd one. Probably, used safely, and of known purity and potency, about the safest 'recreational' substance I've used, cannabis excluded. Had a friend in uni who was part of the Maastricht trials and did partake. It was pleasant.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:18 AM (fA1SL)

456 My son wants an i-phone which is terribly expensive and he hasn't done well with phones. He either loses them or they get destroyed. We said "No phone except for a flip phone" and he hasn't asked for anything else.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


How about an earlier model iphone? Some of them aren't worth much trade in, but they still do a lot of cool stuff, and can have a lot of apps, music, games, and so on. Something to look into.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2017 12:18 AM (+lVUW)

457 Omgosh. LOL. Roy, tell your friends to zip it. I'm sure his friend meant well, but that's not the thing people will grab onto. That's not how this works.



"First came Moore's military buddy Bill Sailing, who defended the Republican Senate hopeful against pedophilia accusations by describing a time the two men accidentally entered a teen brothel while serving in Vietnam.

'I could tell you what I saw, but I don't want to,' Sailing first told the crowd, gathered in a large rustic barn used for weddings, before divulging some details. 'There were certainly pretty girls. And they were girls. They were young. Some were probably very young.'

But as a testament to Moore – who has been accused by multiple women of sexual harassment and assault while they were teens – the candidate said, 'We shouldn't be here, I'm leaving,' according to Sailing's account.

That was Roy, honorable, disciplined, morally straight, highly principled,' Sailing."

Posted by: Professor Chaos Gumdrop Gorilla at December 12, 2017 12:18 AM (r3KsD)

458 I'm not crossing the Northbound border with a stash of drugs on board. Uh-uh!


I understand. Get a scrip from a Mexican MD, carry it with you, no problem. In my experience, helpful and inexpensive Mexican MDs are almost as easy to come by and just as internationally recognized as Mexican notaries public.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, citizen, not denizen at December 12, 2017 12:18 AM (zCyNd)

459 My first car was a Honda Quelude, iirc.

Car and Driver called the first-gen Honda Prelude the Honda Quaalude.

Posted by: not too zippy at December 12, 2017 12:19 AM (u+nmj)

460 Vicodin. That's a mix, with acetaminophen (Tylenol) in it. There's several opioid/acetaminophen combos.

There is some additive effect, but part of the idea is to keep an addict or potential one from talking to much, since the Tylenol will destroy your liver if take too much.

That works well. /sarc

It used to be the Tylenol combos were a lower Schedule (ie less controlled) than the pure forms, but that's changed.

Combos are bad in general, and there is no longer any reason to do that.

That is one thing I do not do if I can avoid it, is to take any combos from cold medicine level on up. Far better and less error prone to take one pill/spoon for each single drug you want to take.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:19 AM (8O3HH)

461 The cookbook is GLORIOUS!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at December 12, 2017 12:20 AM (mMeIQ)

462 So trying to watch 2010 for the first time in many years and something finally struck me. Or I forgot about it.

Why didn't Chandra backup SAL9000 before disconnecting her logic circuits? Then he could have performed many attempts at figuring how to fix HAL9000.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 12, 2017 12:21 AM (FX/O0)

463 Well, I better be off to bed. I have to get up before the crack of dawn to drop my car off at the collision center.

Despite all the drug talk, my car was actually hit while it was parked.

Whether the idiot who hit it was on drugs, I can't say.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 12:23 AM (sdi6R)

464 *you owe me a new monitor, too*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
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;-)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 12:23 AM (AI/Vm)

465
And yes, in my dotage, I have done it -- taken the wrong pill. Got mixed up and grabbed the wrong bottle. How the fuck did I do that? Shudder.

Luckily, nothing that would kill me or close to it. It's wake up call when you do that. And when you get older and sicker and start taking lots of shits, it gets very easy to do that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:23 AM (8O3HH)

466 I understand. Get a scrip from a Mexican MD, carry it with you, no problem. In my experience, helpful and inexpensive Mexican MDs are almost as easy to come by and just as internationally recognized as Mexican notaries public.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, citizen, not denizen at December 12, 2017 12:18 AM (zCyNd)



A myriad of figurative tumblers just aligned in the single-wafer, one number combination lock which is the limited mindscape behind my eyes.

Without publishing the details here for Bob from NSA to send over to the DEA, I know just the folks with exactly the contacts as described.

This is a problem, likely soon solved.

Thanks!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 12, 2017 12:24 AM (QzJWU)

467 I'm going to bed, for real this time.

This is one of the funniest things I've ever seen:

https://goo.gl/images/NV56Kx

Goodnight!

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 12:24 AM (kUotE)

468 Far better and less error prone to take one pill/spoon for each single drug you want to take.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:19 AM (8O3HH)


You think spoons just grow on trees?!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:25 AM (8gDQu)

469 I woke up in the hallway a few hours later as the party was breaking up. Whoopee!
Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 12:01 AM (sdi6R)

With your pants around your ankles, a painfully sore butt, and a strange taste deep in the back of your previously un-sore throat?
Posted by: dos 'ludes,
------------

Stitches where one kidney used to be?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 12:25 AM (AI/Vm)

470 439. Step 1: find a Romanian doctor. Lots of online forums outta the UK - most Romanians seem to be there.
Step 2: make the pitch and make it straightforward.

(Alternatively, know a Romanian MD you met at university. Much easier. Nation of bandits, they are.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:25 AM (fA1SL)

471 Vicodin. That's a mix, with acetaminophen (Tylenol) in it. There's several opioid/acetaminophen combos.

...

Combos are bad in general, and there is no longer any reason to do that...

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:19 AM (8O3HH)




They also made a Vicodin which was a combo with simple Aspirin. And I forgot the name, but it's out there.

And what I'd hope to find.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 12, 2017 12:28 AM (QzJWU)

472 438 I took a Roofie once in highschool. I took it before I took a shower to go out. I woke up dressed the next morning at my desk. My parents said I never left the house.

Eff those things. If the Lude experience is like the Roofie experience then I didnt miss out.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 12:12 AM (g4lFK)

++++

You're supposed to give the date rape drug to your date. Or so I've heard.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 12:28 AM (pvjTE)

473 Combos are bad in general, and there is no longer any reason to do that.
Tell me about it. I ate a whole snack-bag of the pizza flavour ones over yesterday evening and this afternoon; and they're not cheap here either -- like $3.25 or so but I can't help myself.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 12, 2017 12:28 AM (QCX64)

474 471. Mexican MD is more to be trusted than a Romanian, sad to say.

Work them networks, good sir.

(And if you find a MX supplier for Gerovital H3 south of the river, do please to share the info. I've had two shipments seized in three years.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:31 AM (fA1SL)

475 "I don't think I fully thought through the implications." Mike Morell.

https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/940420578523140096

The "implications", of spying on Trump, weren't "thought through fully" because they really, really, really knew Hillary would win. And when she did all would be fine and covered up forever.

Posted by: geoffb at December 12, 2017 12:31 AM (zOpu5)

476 Some people have an adverse reaction to Vicodin.

I was one of them.

It didn't hit until 10 days in, and I was outta town. Spent the night puking in a hotel room, laying on the floor. One of worst nights.

Being ill out of town is a horrible thing.

Not to complain too much; you all deal with worse. Just a warning on Vicodin.


Posted by: Professor Chaos Gumdrop Gorilla at December 12, 2017 12:32 AM (r3KsD)

477 Brand names for hydrocodone and aspirin are: Damason-P, Azdone, Alor
5/500, Panasal 5/500, Lortab ASA. The generic name would either be
aspirin and hydrocodone or hydrocodone ASA. If it says hydrocodone APAP,
it has acetaminophen, not aspirin.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 12:33 AM (ZeU5D)

478 >>They also made a Vicodin which was a combo with simple Aspirin.

-------------

Looked it up. Brand names Damason-P, Alor, Azdone, Lortab ASA, others.

Typical strength is 5/500mg. 5mg hydrocodone, 500 aspirin.

Again, with me, I much prefer to take separate products.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:33 AM (8O3HH)

479 Man, lots of cromulent reading in the threads tonight, and I am too damned tired to keep my eyelids pried open. Ten-thirty here, and I am wiped out. Which is a darned good thing, since I was working nights, and now I am turned around to daylights. I know I am going to sleep like a baby.

See you all on the flip-flop. And I am now officially free of work obligations until some time in the New Year. Sort of expected that, and a meeting today confirmed it; next two wells on this client's program get done by two other guys in the consulting stable. And I am OK with that.

Hasta manana, "rons and 'ettes. The rack will not be denied.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 12:35 AM (oPNmq)

480 (Alternatively, know a Romanian MD you met at university. Much easier. Nation of bandits, they are.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:25 AM (fA1SL)

Better yet-


Be the English teacher for dozens of Hungarian and Romanian MDs who left their blessed homelands.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, linguistic educator at December 12, 2017 12:35 AM (zCyNd)

481 >>Spent the night puking in a hotel room, laying on the floor. One of worst nights.

--------

Hydrocodone does that to me. 5mg is not too bad, I'll be nauseated, but not enough to pule. But that's not enough for a bad RA flare. 10mg, and I'll be puking.

That particular compound for me and you just sets off the nausea.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:35 AM (8O3HH)

482 Anybody remember 'Owlsey' acid?

Just as a literary reference.
Asking for a friend.

Posted by: dos 'ludes, man at December 12, 2017 12:36 AM (3wPE7)

483 Posted by: Jim at December 12, 2017 12:24 AM
--

I understand your situation completely.

A former co-worker had really really bad back issues, and worked long hours in a physical job. His doctor gave him oxycontin, without telling him it was addictive.

Did my former co-worker become addicted?

Actually... no.

He had surgery and no longer had any pain.

However... the forced him to go to narco anonymous as part of his therapy. Even though he wasn't an addict. Which was... idiotic.

Posted by: shibumi at December 12, 2017 12:37 AM (aT+Bx)

484 Hasta manana, "rons and 'ettes. The rack will not be denied.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 12:35 AM (oPNmq)

Well, if you are free, there are some Cajun girls interested in being "frakked".

Could you at least help them with some deep core samples?

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, from la Louisiane at December 12, 2017 12:38 AM (zCyNd)

485 Combos are bad in general, and there is no longer any reason to do that.


Learned something new. Most I take is Advil. It was a dentist who perscribed the Vicodin. And 10 years ago. But I'll never forget it. *shudder*



Posted by: Professor Chaos Gumdrop Gorilla at December 12, 2017 12:39 AM (r3KsD)

486 1982 The Thing is on......

ONE OF THE BEST SCI-FI/HORROR FILMS of All-time.......

The concept is sublime......

Carpenters execution........EXCEPTIONAL.....

Magnificent film.....

Y'all have a Fantastic night......

It's Deserved, As Always..........

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 12, 2017 12:40 AM (IlqBS)

487 480. Heh....maybe Miklos is wanting Chinese herbal medicines? Mongolian kolbasa?

My professional life has brought me mostly in touch with East & Central Asia - arbitrage is somewhat limited.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:40 AM (fA1SL)

488 Typical strength is 5/500mg. 5mg hydrocodone, 500 aspirin.



Again, with me, I much prefer to take separate products.

Posted by: publius,

I'm a 25/5 guy myself (25 mg THC/5 mg CBD)

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2017 12:43 AM (KAi1n)

489 Time for the old folk. Snow is just beginning here, weatherman says 6-8" total accumulation. Just an introductory snowfall, nothing serious.


Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 12, 2017 12:43 AM (S/hVx)

490 That particular compound for me and you just sets off the nausea.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:35 AM (8O3HH)


I hate nauseousness and vomiting more than anything. Can only imagine he prescribed something that strong b/c I was gonna be outta town, and be awhile before he could do his work. But I'd rather the pain and just a bottle of Advil, which I was doing fine with, actually.

Posted by: Professor Chaos Gumdrop Gorilla at December 12, 2017 12:45 AM (r3KsD)

491 Nite Iron Grampa.

Posted by: Professor Chaos Gumdrop Gorilla at December 12, 2017 12:45 AM (r3KsD)

492 arbitrage is somewhat limited.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:40 AM (fA1SL)

The UK NHS pays a lot for the placement of a new doctor.

As soon as the US authorities change some odd rules, I will sell them English speaking MDs by the dozen. A fully qualified MD in the US is worth 40k on the hoof.

No arbitrage, a simple service industry.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, igen at December 12, 2017 12:46 AM (zCyNd)

493 486 ~

Oh yes indeed. Carpenters "The Thing" is one of the best ever. A study in paranoia and horror. Kurt is excellent as the cartoonish macho guy who turns out to be much more faceted a character than he is first made out to be ~ all other performances riveting. Brimley is especially good during his freakout scene.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 12:47 AM (0YSzp)

494 I will return to this thread in the a.m. in order to take some notes.

Good info here. Thanks to all!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 12, 2017 12:49 AM (QzJWU)

495 Many people are allergic to acetaminophen and get very sick if they take it.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 12:49 AM (VAm5e)

496 492. I meant in terms of what I could offer to you for one of your Romanian MD's. This one I use now - he's an old friend, and we have a good tie between us - he only marks it up 10 times his cost. Not complaining, but if I could swap horse sausage or, say, Yunnan Baiyao, I might could come out ahead. ( sorry. Judeo-Slavic blood speaking.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:50 AM (fA1SL)

497 However... the forced him to go to narco anonymous
as part of his therapy. Even though he wasn't an addict. Which was...
idiotic.


Posted by: shibumi at December 12, 2017 12:37 AM (aT+Bx)

Not that unusual. Sadly that label will follow him in this brave new world of government enforced electronic medical records.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 12:50 AM (FTXAT)

498 Richard Frank's "Guadalcanal" is indeed a very good book. But for the serious reader - rather hefty tome.


SFGoth, if you're here, what book are you reading about Op Typhoon?


I'm starting a very hard slog, David Glantz's "Colossus Reborn" about the Soviet military after the disastrous summer/fall of 1941, up through the end of 1943. Sort of an academic style, not highly readable. If it's anything like his book on the disastrous summer of '41 - "Stumbling Colossus" - then it'll be quite a chore.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2017 12:51 AM (QDnY+)

499 Heh

Feeling pain? This might cheer you up in place of opioids ~ unless you are a lefty.

Heh.

https://tinyurl.com/y7zybm39

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 12:51 AM (0YSzp)

500
Many people are allergic to acetaminophen and get very sick if they take it.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 12:49 AM (VAm5e)

Heh... I thought it was just my kid.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 12:52 AM (FTXAT)

501 Not that unusual. Sadly that label will follow him in this brave new world of government enforced electronic medical records.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 12:50 AM (FTXAT)

and that is why you don't talk to your doctor or nurses much

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 12, 2017 12:52 AM (3/sUh)

502 Kurt is excellent as the cartoonish macho guy who turns out to be much more faceted a character than he is first made out to be ~ all other performances riveting.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 12:47 AM (0YSzp)


I think you're talking about Big Trouble in Little China, there.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:55 AM (8gDQu)

503 I have to say that in addition to his leftist stands, Doug Jones is a a really odd looking man. I don't really care about looks that much, but it's a bad combination-odd looks and weirder politics.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


After reading that comment, i thought about that former representative with the pig face. As usual I couldn't remember his name. So I binged "ex congressman new york pig nose".
Yes, Waxman's name was the third item. Heh. With a photo of his pig face, yet.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2017 12:55 AM (+lVUW)

504 and that is why you don't talk to your doctor or nurses much

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 12, 2017 12:52 AM (3/sUh)


Yep. The days of doctor-patient confidentiality are loooooong gone. Along with the concept of the second opinion.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:57 AM (8gDQu)

505 Garrett...
I'm OK with Reubens made with marble rye but I think the best ones I've ever had were made with pumpernickle. Had one years ago somewhere in far northwest Missouri in which both the meat and the sourkraut had been grilled and made with pumpernickle. If I could remember where it was I'd drive there right now and order one.

Posted by: Suds 46 at December 12, 2017 12:57 AM (3booC)

506 After reading that comment, i thought about that former representative with the pig face. As usual I couldn't remember his name. So I binged "ex congressman new york pig nose".
Yes, Waxman's name was the third item. Heh. With a photo of his pig face, yet.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2017 12:55 AM (+lVUW)

He was/is a decidedly odd looking dude.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 12:58 AM (ZgKFD)

507 This is now a drugs thread.

*Starts refreshing until I see rainbow trails from scrolling.*

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 12, 2017 12:00 AM (IcT7t)


A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVMb3oPMQPA

Posted by: The Lysergic Hat at December 12, 2017 12:59 AM (itfg0)

508 I'd be down with a Pumpernickle Reuben.

But, I have moved on and now crave a Knish and a Dr. Brown's BlackCherry.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 12:59 AM (gJy3W)

509 502 Kurt is excellent as the cartoonish macho guy who turns out to be much more faceted a character than he is first made out to be ~ all other performances riveting.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 12:47 AM (0YSzp)

I think you're talking about Big Trouble in Little China, there.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 12:55 AM (8gDQu)

***

Heh. No. That ( also one of my faves) is where Kurt starts off as a cartoonish macho guy ~ and stays a cartoonish macho guy. Not to be confused with SkyHigh where he plays an actual cartoonish macho super hero guy who also stays a macho super hero guy ( hmm sensing a trend).

Seriously though ~ the RJ MacReady character really starts off as two dimensional ~ which turns out to be his way of dealing with a lot of sh*t, until sh*t gets real and he starts to show a lot of different sides to his character ~ he does an excellent job with a minimalist script. Liked this movie a lot.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 01:01 AM (0YSzp)

510 Off to bed with me horde ~ had to stay up to make sure sick Daughter Redux at University got some medical attention for a very bad case of flu. She is alright now ( after getting IV fluids) ~ her roomie did her a solid taking her to the urgent care. What a thing to go through during finals week! Feh.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 01:04 AM (0YSzp)

511 471 Vicodin. That's a mix, with acetaminophen (Tylenol) in it. There's several opioid/acetaminophen combos.

...

Combos are bad in general, and there is no longer any reason to do that...

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:19 AM (8O3HH)


They did it because adding Tylenol to the mix makes it cause liver damage if you take too much or for too long. That way it's easier for doctors to prescribe.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 01:04 AM (+azJs)

512 Liked this movie a lot.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 01:01 AM (0YSzp)


Carpenter's The Thing used to be one of my favorite movies but the more I saw it the less I liked it - which is the opposite of my other favorite movies. There are just too many serious plot issues for me. It's one of the original movies where the monster changed characteristics throughout the movie ... so it's easy to put that aside on the first watching or two but after that it just got to me.

I had the same problem with The Terminator. I loved it the first time I saw it, even though I knew it had lots of problems, but the more I saw it the less I liked it. I wouldn't even bother watching it again, now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 01:06 AM (8gDQu)

513 (Fire. Drink. ONT. Life is good.)

indeed. thanks for the ONT MH.

anyone want a beer. I'm pouring.

Posted by: rich at December 12, 2017 01:07 AM (rYW/M)

514 SFGoth, if you're here, what book are you reading about Op Typhoon?

I'm
starting a very hard slog, David Glantz's "Colossus Reborn" about the
Soviet military after the disastrous summer/fall of 1941, up through the
end of 1943. Sort of an academic style, not highly readable. If it's
anything like his book on the disastrous summer of '41 - "Stumbling
Colossus" - then it'll be quite a chore.

Posted by: rhomboid

"Operation Typhoon" by David Stahel. I've read a bunch of his stuff, Glantz's too. I'm not so much a hard numbers guy so much as I really love the in-depth/high-level stuff involving planning, execution, leader personalities, and historical factors. I'm a serious Eastern Front junkie. If I ever have the time, I've pondered a thesis on what Germany could have done in Barbarossa with all the planes, pilots, fuel, and munitions it squandered on the Battle of Britain. The fighters (mostly 109s and 110s) would have made great division-busting flying machine guns (most of the Red Airforce was "kaput" during 1941) and some of the medium bombers could've been emergency transports for food, ammunition, or smaller spare parts. The additional stukas were necessary against the T-34.

I could go on.... :->

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2017 01:10 AM (KAi1n)

515 Posted by: The Lysergic Hat at December 12, 2017 12:59 AM (itfg0)

too much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EefPcht54c

too much.

Posted by: rich at December 12, 2017 01:10 AM (rYW/M)

516 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 12:50 AM (fA1SL)

Happily, my only needed pain reliever is OTC, if I am not too imbibeful to go get more.


Regarding other matters, I once was paraded in a sedan chair in the silken robes of a Mongolian chieftain. Now how that happened...now where is my Circle K coffee mug of kumis...

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Carpathian foothills are my personal Ottoman at December 12, 2017 01:11 AM (zCyNd)

517 507. Pfft!

Little Fluffy Clouds, by The Orb, than which there is no finer trance:

https://youtu.be/FHixChYgGRI

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:12 AM (fA1SL)

518 516. Mongol robes? They've got no buttons. Deel with it.
(swidt?)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:13 AM (fA1SL)

519 516. Love the tagline on that one. Ahhh...a simple life for me - riding in my armoured train to my trebuchalet in the Kavkaz....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:15 AM (fA1SL)

520 I could go on.... :->

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2017 01:10 AM (KAi1n)

Check John Batchelor's podcasts. He interviewed a guy who is translating and publishing thousands of pages of German soldiers' diaries.

The first volume is called simply "Soldaten". It is is German , I don't know if the planned English version has happened yet.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Carpathian foothills are my personal Ottoman at December 12, 2017 01:15 AM (zCyNd)

521 Posted by: The Lysergic Hat at December 12, 2017 12:59 AM (itfg0)

too much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EefPcht54c

too much.

Posted by: rich at December 12, 2017 01:10 AM (rYW/M)


It's never too much...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJh9OLlXenM

Posted by: Zombie Syd Barrett at December 12, 2017 01:17 AM (itfg0)

522 Mongol robes? They've got no buttons. Deel with it.
(swidt?)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:13 AM (fA1SL)

No pockets either.

Try explaining it all to a cop who wants to see your ID.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, Khan of Carpathia at December 12, 2017 01:18 AM (zCyNd)

523 I could go on.... :->


Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2017 01:10 AM (KAi1n)

My personal opinion. If Hitler had not diverted the panzer units from Army Group Central to help Army Group South at the encirclement of Kiev, and had instead pushed on to take Moscow, he would have won it. Virtually every rail line in Russia ran through Moscow and he could have cut off most of their supply routes. Add to that when Stalin found out the Japanese were going for the US instead of Russia, he moved huge masses of men and equipment east to defend Moscow. Had the Germans taken Moscow, it would have been almost moot.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 12, 2017 01:19 AM (gEvQ8)

524 522. Can he not read the banners of your men? Nor see the ruins of a thousand villages? Heh....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:22 AM (fA1SL)

525 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:19 AM (8O3HH)

They did it because adding Tylenol to the mix makes it cause liver damage if you take too much or for too long. That way it's easier for doctors to prescribe.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 01:04 AM (+azJs)
**************

Guess Obama scratched out that do no harm part of the creed.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 01:24 AM (VAm5e)

526 Can he not read the banners of your men? Nor see the ruins of a thousand villages? Heh....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:22 AM (fA1SL)

I guess so. I was not detained, but strongly encouraged regarding maidens.


As the local LE put it "Ain't too many blue eye Mongols. Anything happens, you done it."

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, Khan of Carpathia at December 12, 2017 01:26 AM (zCyNd)

527 Interesting piece linked over at Instapundit:

https://tinyurl.com/y6v2c8sg

The Left Punishes Itself...Mercilessly and Horribly


While I agree with his premise, I take issue with his prescription. Sure, don't let these guys make you miserable, but their pathology is that they want to inflict misery and despair on not just their children- but everyone's. That I do not hold with.

Also, his argument that there is not much you can do re: 47 genders, critical race theory, etc, so why bother? Here is the thing: Western Civilization is a miracle. It did not happen by accident and it will not stick around by accident. The natural state of man is not western civ- it is the middle east (and I do not mean Israel.) I am not sorry to say that I do not want to let this miracle slip through our fingers. So, I will do what I can.

It is a weird, odd kind of defeatism that you run into on the libertarian/conservative side sometimes. I'll admit, I have felt some of the same leanings myself when you consider history and turning a cultural boat is never an easy- sometimes not a possible- task. In this case though, it is a very worthwhile one.

Even if the battle is lost, there is honor and peace in doing the right thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 01:27 AM (ZgKFD)

528 The woman said that Trump asked for her phone number because he had a modeling agency. Megyn Kelly commiserates. Judge not, until you've walked a mile in the shoes of a hot chick.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 12, 2017 01:27 AM (rnAwa)

529 Guess Obama scratched out that do no harm part of the creed.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 01:24 AM (VAm5e)

According to leaked copies of Obama's college transcript, he was not the best among his fellow students of ancient Greek.

He was apparently pretty good at the modern part though.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, Dean and Provost at December 12, 2017 01:29 AM (zCyNd)

530 Even if the battle is lost, there is honor and peace in doing the right thing.



Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 01:27 AM (ZgKFD)

I can't remember who posted the link, but there was a veteran who posted a very good essay that stated that most people no longer know what the word honor means. And he was dead on.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 12, 2017 01:30 AM (gEvQ8)

531 Carpenter's The Thing used to be one of my favorite movies but the more I saw it the less I liked it - which is the opposite of my other favorite movies. There are just too many serious plot issues for me. It's one of the original movies where the monster changed characteristics throughout the movie ... so it's easy to put that aside on the first watching or two but after that it just got to me.

I had the same problem with The Terminator. I loved it the first time I saw it, even though I knew it had lots of problems, but the more I saw it the less I liked it. I wouldn't even bother watching it again, now.


Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 01:06 AM


Interesting. What plot issues and characteristics you have in mind?

Posted by: otho at December 12, 2017 01:33 AM (qGuLD)

532 riding in my armoured train to my trebuchalet in the Kavkaz....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:15 AM (fA1SL)

Keep pushin' it bud. We know your kind.

Therefore I have asked Santa for an additional battalion of Ghurkas for Christmas.

Santa knows I have been a very good tribal paramount chief.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, who like collards and comquest at December 12, 2017 01:34 AM (zCyNd)

533 526. Grey eyes by me, with flecks of green. But when I laugh, the Mongol-squint (as my angel calls it) shows. That, she tells me, was a significant obstacle for her father, the Colonel. That, and learning from another source that I was heard in a public place to speak not-English with a genuine Mongol and a lady from Urumqi. But he came around, in time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:35 AM (fA1SL)

534
Have we heard anything of TGE pulling it out and whacking, rape buttons, dry humping? Etc, etc. You now typical liberal Democrat Defender of Womyns behavior?

At the worst, Trump is guilty of making moves on hotties, getting turned down, and moving on. Taking no for an answer. Like a man. (and I'm sure in typical alpha fashion, thinking to himself, "Your loss, sweetie")

And I'm sure his offers were accepted. A lot. Yes, our god-emperor likes having the sex with hot women. He's literally Hitler, therefore.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 01:35 AM (8O3HH)

535 >>The Church does not therefore recognize my marriage.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 11, 2017 11:07 PM (Oypvu)



Did the Church actually say that or are you saying that?
I'm not seeing how the previous marriage is considered 'valid' to the Church.
Just askin' Thanks and/or sorry.

Posted by: Totes Confused Lurker at December 12, 2017 01:37 AM (kg0f+)

536 riding in my armoured train to my trebuchalet

Is a "trebuchalet" a cleverly designed wooden house that can also be thrown at enemies by a system of concealed counterweights?

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, ancient siege engineer at December 12, 2017 01:37 AM (zCyNd)

537 Well, I survived another trip around the Sun. I credit Earth with making the journey a lot easier.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:38 AM (0ogQG)

538 Roman von Ungern-Sternberg knew: German leadership, Slavic grit, and Mongol cavalry sets the Reds to flight. He is a model worthy of emulation.

* burns joss to Tengri *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:38 AM (fA1SL)

539 536. Very close. The trebuchalet is a small, tasteful dwelling that doubles as the counterweight for a trebuchet. Heaves 'em all the way out to the steppes, it does.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:40 AM (fA1SL)

540 >> Well, I survived another trip around the Sun. I credit Earth with making the journey a lot easier.

Unfortunately, none of us will survive even a fraction of one trip around the Galactic Center. One Galactic Year Ago, the dinosaurs hadn't yet appeared. Close in geological terms, but not quite yet.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 01:41 AM (8O3HH)

541

I wonder how often a drug that is used for one problem turns out to help another. i had a dog years ago that had corneal damage due to his eyes not producing tears.

There was a medication that I had to apply that solved the problem.
As I remember it was a drug that was used in humans for something else, but they discovered that it could help eye problems. it was okayed for use for dogs' eye problems, but hadn't yet been okayed for use in humans' eye problems.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2017 11:39 PM (+lVUW)

No problemo. ID as a dog and visit the vet. Threaten discrimination lawsuit.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 12, 2017 01:42 AM (e1mEI)

542 537
Well, I survived another trip around the Sun. I credit Earth with making the journey a lot easier.


Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:38 AM (0ogQG)

Happy BeerDay on You! *pushes light lager through usb port for GnuBreed*

Posted by: Old Blue at December 12, 2017 01:43 AM (gEvQ8)

543 And I'm sure his offers were accepted. A lot. Yes,
our god-emperor likes having the sex with hot women. He's literally
Hitler, therefore.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 01:35 AM (8O3HH)


LITERALLY!?!

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 01:44 AM (FTXAT)

544 a lady from Urumqi.

"There once was a lady from Urumqi..."


I would not inflict this on Muldoon.

Also. the Urumqi people are not mongols, they are Turks, and will tell you so.

A Mongol in Urumqi is an interloper.

Posted by: Rev. Al "Molnar" Sharpton at December 12, 2017 01:44 AM (zCyNd)

545 Well, I survived another trip around the Sun. I credit Earth with making the journey a lot easier.


Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:38 AM (0ogQG)

Happy Birthday:-)

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 01:45 AM (FTXAT)

546 WWL, channel 4 New Orleans, tonight had a segment about 16 wymyns that have accused PDJT of improprieties. With pictures.

MY pool number prediction, yesterday, was that the total would reach 50.

Keep 'em coming, ladies.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:46 AM (0ogQG)

547 544. Wuliji was the Mongol. Gyulbanu was the Urumqi. Two different people, from two different places, but we three were met in my office.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:46 AM (fA1SL)

548 Interesting. What plot issues and characteristics you have in mind?

Posted by: otho at December 12, 2017 01:33 AM (qGuLD)


For The Thing?

The alien keeps changing its abilities. It starts out just copying the host but then grows into just occupying and turning into whatever odd thing it wants. It, allegedly, is in every single cell (the infamous burning blood test) but people were getting splattered with blood and guts from alien shit the whole movie. It kills off the host (just replicating him from within) but in some of the hosts it still uses the knowledge that the host had (though it doesn't seem to retain any knowledge from host to host).

Throughout the movie, what kills it changes. What it turns into changes. Why it turns into stuff changes. Everything is changed on the fly to service the current issues of the plot, with no regard to anything that was said or happened before.

Same thing with The Terminator. For example: The first time Ahnold gets shot he goes down and looks like he's been killed. But then, after 20 seconds he comes back to. But that sequence is too time-consuming to do everytime Ahnold gets shot so they just stop doing that and jump to him just not getting killed or looking liked he died or anything.

The first "death" was just for effect to make the audience go "ooooh" and then it was thrown away. The first time I saw the movie I could easily let stuff like that go ... but only the first time. The same with the stupid way he chose his words to answer the landlord banging on his door. Obviously, he's not scanning a list of words in his vision to pick what to say every time.

And why did Ahnold speak with such an awful accent as the Terminator when he was obviously capable of speaking English like a normal American (as he did when he mimicked the cop he had just killed and spoke just like him over the radio)?

Both of those movies are just chock-full of stuff like that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 01:47 AM (8gDQu)

549 normal ONT thread drift, i see.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 01:47 AM (ZeU5D)

550 Well, I survived another trip around the Sun.

Good on ya.

I been around the Moon a few times (wink-nudge) and still here

Posted by: Buzz Aldrin at December 12, 2017 01:48 AM (zCyNd)

551 WTH is "green monday"?

got a couple e-mails today about green monday deals... i'm a broke mo-fo, so i didn't open any of them, this shit is getting stupid.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 01:49 AM (ZeU5D)

552 And thanks to all for the Bday wishes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:50 AM (0ogQG)

553 549. ONT drifts like a Lada taking a corner.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:50 AM (fA1SL)

554 537. Ha! Cheated the Reaper again! Well done, sir.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:51 AM (fA1SL)

555 late to the topic, but Adam Lanza KILLED his mother to get the rifle he used.

how they think they're going to hang that on the companies is beyond me. i'm sure they'll get it in front of an activist judge though, so law will have nothing to do with the verdict.

oh yeah, and the local authorities *knew* he was a problem, yet they did nothing: sue the city, etc.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 01:52 AM (ZeU5D)

556 MY pool number prediction, yesterday, was that the total would reach 50.

Keep 'em coming, ladies.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:46 AM (0ogQG)

Just tell me which pool these ladies meet at.

Posted by: Sherif Bart, Sharia in Nawlins! at December 12, 2017 01:52 AM (zCyNd)

557 525 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 12:19 AM (8O3HH)

They did it because adding Tylenol to the mix makes it cause liver damage if you take too much or for too long. That way it's easier for doctors to prescribe.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 01:04 AM (+azJs)
**************

Guess Obama scratched out that do no harm part of the creed.
Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 01:24 AM (VAm5e)


Obama did a lot of damage from the Oval Office, but he can hardly be blamed for something that happened when he was a child.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 01:52 AM (+azJs)

558 537 Well, I survived another trip around the Sun. I credit Earth with making the journey a lot easier.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:38 AM (0ogQG)


Congrats. Every day on this side of the grass is a good day

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 01:53 AM (+azJs)

559
462 So trying to watch 2010 for the first time in many years and something finally struck me. Or I forgot about it.

Why didn't Chandra backup SAL9000 before disconnecting her logic circuits? Then he could have performed many attempts at figuring how to fix HAL9000.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 12, 2017 12:21 AM (FX/O0)

Backups steal a self aware computers soul.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 12, 2017 01:54 AM (e1mEI)

560 but we three were met in my office.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 01:46 AM (fA1SL)

I call bullshit. "office" or "yurt with wifi"?

Posted by: 5 Pinocchios at December 12, 2017 01:55 AM (zCyNd)

561 normal ONT thread drift, i see.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 01:47 AM (ZeU5D)

It is the seasonal variation in the Gulf Stream, as influenced by some California thing that is always big or small, and the reduction on import duty on Canadian air under NAFTA.

Posted by: Miklos, sustainably so at December 12, 2017 01:58 AM (zCyNd)

562 548 Both of those movies are just chock-full of stuff like that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Did, or did you not, reach the point of suspension of disbelief for Terminator? Especially the first viewing.

A good movie, like a good book, allows you to visit another world. For a while.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:59 AM (0ogQG)

563 Did, or did you not, reach the point of suspension of disbelief for Terminator? Especially the first viewing.

I really enjoyed it but, no. I am willing to give time travel stories a lot of leeway so I let a lot of it go, anyway. But I was never "taken in" to the story. I very much enjoyed the good parts and let the bad parts wash by.

A good movie, like a good book, allows you to visit another world. For a while.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:59 AM (0ogQG)


I agree.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 02:02 AM (8gDQu)

564 A good movie, like a good book, allows you to visit another world. For a while.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 01:59 AM (0ogQG)

"To read, is to be another, for a time."

Posted by: Emily Bronte at December 12, 2017 02:03 AM (zCyNd)

565
As it seems, appropos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpzqQst-Sg8

Posted by: Miklo, the unkown Bronte at December 12, 2017 02:10 AM (zCyNd)

566 For The Thing?

The alien keeps changing its abilities. It starts out just copying the host but then grows into just occupying and turning into whatever odd thing it wants. It, allegedly, is in every single cell (the infamous burning blood test) but people were getting splattered with blood and guts from alien shit the whole movie. It kills off the host (just replicating him from within) but in some of the hosts it still uses the knowledge that the host had (though it doesn't seem to retain any knowledge from host to host).

Throughout the movie, what kills it changes. What it turns into changes. Why it turns into stuff changes. Everything is changed on the fly to service the current issues of the plot, with no regard to anything that was said or happened before.


Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 01:47 AM


I hear what you're saying and I'm not going to insist everything was as planned. But... apart from the more obvious morphing factor (odd stuff... whatever it once copied before)... It works within the the story as it is a completely baffling life form that defies sense or logic... "It's alien. It's different from us." What is proposed during the story as to the why's and how's and what for's are NOT necessarily true. They're guesses made on the fly. Why it does anything is a mystery. The blood thing is a good point. The guys coming into contact with it may have actually started to be turned, it would take time at that smaller level. But, then again, maybe not. In keeping with the original novel, the film manages to convey a sense that aprt from just being merely alien, The Thing has an aspect that is possibly supernatural, or operating on a level that we can't even understand. That it, for want of a better description, deals in souls, not just corporeal bodies.

In regards to how it's killed? My take is that it can't be killed. Just slowed down.

Posted by: otho at December 12, 2017 02:12 AM (qGuLD)

567 now "they" are saying Ohr's wife also worked for the CIA ... as well as Fusion GPS ... in some sort of investigation open sources on international crime.

Or covering it up perhaps ... CIA has been involved in regime change (with Hillary in Libya, who knows where else) ... so no big surprise I guess they decided they would try regime change in the USA.

They will stop international crime by becoming the biggest crime syndicate, taking down resistance from Western Civilization by flooding Europe and the US with terrorists ... jihadists, antifa, BLM, La Raza .... helluva job guys.

it's at Gateway Pundit.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 02:13 AM (otAqJ)

568
Speaking of TGE and womyns. Marla Maples, and after their divorce, said Trump was the best lay she ever had.

And Melania, right after their marriage, said something about him, well, being "high energy" indeed. That was long before he had any thought of entering politics. I'm sure the man has confidence, and that's the majority of the game right there.

I'm sure a lot don't want to think of POTUS in those terms, but that's something else for those who don't mind to admire about the man.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 02:13 AM (8O3HH)

569 There were so many problems with Barbarossa.
1. Started late
2. Not enough vehicles for the infantry so the panzers would encircle entire Russian armies and overnight the Russians would ooze through the encirclement while waiting for the horse mounted infantry to catch up.
3. Leningrad should have been taken by Army Group North and let the citizens starve if that was their fate. By doing so, forces could have been diverted to the other fronts.
4. Army Group South should have bypassed Stalingrad and gone for the oil. Remember the Japanese proverb - he who chases two rabbits catches neither. Thus was the fate of Army Group South.
5. Army Group Center should have gone for Moscow for the psychological/political blow it would have dealt to the Stalin regime.

Well back to writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 12, 2017 02:13 AM (FX/O0)

570 CNN wants us to believe that the people who used a garbage dossier to
wiretap TeamTrump would not pay a couple of women to accuse Trump of
sexual assault

stolen from Twatter

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 02:14 AM (ZeU5D)

571 564 "To read, is to be another, for a time."

Posted by: Emily Bronte


Yeah, I knew it wasn't an original thought. Ole Emily probably lifted it from some Greek.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 02:14 AM (0ogQG)

572 IIRC, the Germans started late because Italy was getting it's ass kicked, so they felt the need to jump in and help.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 02:17 AM (ZeU5D)

573 "...kicked in Greece,..."

stupid fingers.

(worst of all, i'm s*ber)

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 02:19 AM (ZeU5D)

574 T1: Clever and effective thriller
T2: One of the best action movies of the 90s
T3: Made for television
T4: Well photographed but ... in a movie with Christian Bale I've got no main character and no one being likable or watchable.
T5: Cash grab and end of the franchise. Mother of Dragons is a step down from Cersei Lanister.

Ok I just looked it up. Every Sarah Conner is within a few inches of each other, but I wouldn't have guessed it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 12, 2017 02:19 AM (rnAwa)

575
CNN wants us to believe that the people who used a garbage dossier to

wiretap TeamTrump would not pay a couple of women to accuse Trump of

sexual assault

stolen from Twatter


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 02:14 AM (ZeU5D)

the interesting speculation on the q threads has moved from 4 chan to 8ch.net thought i would tell you. If you want to read the research without having to wade through the antisemitism, go here: https://8ch. net/ cbts/ catalog.html

Just remove the spaces i inserted to pixy will let this through

Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 02:27 AM (9G8jN)

576 Yeah, I knew it wasn't an original thought. Ole Emily probably lifted it from some Greek.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 02:14 AM (0ogQG) 0

Actually, I made it up, and hereby deed all Intellectual Property Rights (patents, copyrights, etc) to you!

Don't say Miklos never gave you nothin'.

Posted by: Miklo, whos eface is onr the 1961 3 dollar bill at December 12, 2017 02:31 AM (zCyNd)

577 CNN will be irrelevant to in the 2024 election. They're screwing the pooch that badly and consistently.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 12, 2017 02:31 AM (rnAwa)

578 Re: the story of the impeached judge going on to another career in fraud........As a lawyer I can tell you that the legal profession on a whole is a cesspool, particularly with judges at the local level (don't practice in fed much). I see issues come to light with corrupt judges and what happens? They typically get tossed from the bench and then go back over to private practice or even with large firms with nary a scratch. This is INFURIATING. The bar gives you an anal exam prior to admission and yet once you're in, it seems you'd have to kill a client, steal all their money, burn their house down, and then run a TV commercial boasting about it in order to be disbarred. Anything less and you're merely censured. This is why and how the left is cozy with the bar and most lawyers (all plaintiffs and half defense).

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 02:33 AM (xHVD5)

579 Well back to writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 12, 2017 02:13 AM (FX/O0)

This is why Churchill did not have Hitler assassinated when he could have

Posted by: Miklo, who met the designated assassin at December 12, 2017 02:34 AM (zCyNd)

580
Congrats. Every day on this side of the grass is a good day

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 12, 2017 01:53 AM (+azJs)

When you can still say "Get off my lawn"

Posted by: MikloThe older version of Miklos at December 12, 2017 02:36 AM (zCyNd)

581 I cant believe that i just admitted that i have been lurking infinity chan to look at weaponized autism. but yeah, i have. i miss you guys, Morons are NORMAL!!

i was kinda stoked to get my cookbooks. Looks like my Grammas Fruit crisp made the cut! WHOO HOO! i got some for presents, too.

been feeling sick and fucked up has not helped my outlook, i was thrilled to see a flaming skull today. Real life has been full of Fail and weirdos. You know its bad when life is too awful to tell the story to the horde.


Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 02:36 AM (9G8jN)

582 This is why Churchill did not have Hitler assassinated when he could have

Posted by: Miklo

* * * * *

Speaking of Churchill, caught an EXCELLENT Churchill biopic on Amazon called "The Gathering Storm" starring Albert Finney as The Church. Fan-friggen-tastic. Highly recommend.

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 02:37 AM (xHVD5)

583 thanks for the 8chan tip Gushka! going there now.

bummer about RL, but that's it in a nut shell.

i ordered 4 copies today, but no need to worry about if any of mine made the cut: i never got around to submitting any.

because i suck at things like that these days

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 02:52 AM (ZeU5D)

584 Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 02:36 AM (9G8jN) 0

Dear Gushka-

Wait not that it should be given.

The Normals will decide what is Normal, no others.

The Grand Council of the Celestial Aspergians observes us, but intervenes in our petty affairs only upon their divine autistic whim.

Therefore, the Flaming Skull belongs to those who possess the knowledge! As you possess!

The lights around my Tzampotii this year are truly magical. This is my empowerment.

Posted by: Miklos, collector and if anybody asks, anthropologist at December 12, 2017 02:52 AM (zCyNd)

585 ..."You know its bad when life is too awful to tell the story to the horde."
-Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 02:36 AM (9G8jN)

^This is 100% true.^

I'll keep it offline and vent to a select few.

Answering, "how is everything?", is a tedious process that cuts into Things I Could/Should Be Doing.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 02:53 AM (Ckg4U)

586 This is why and how the left is cozy with the bar and most lawyers (all plaintiffs and half defense).

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 02:33 AM (xHVD5)

Do you have a proposal based on your experience? Some version of loser pays?

Posted by: Miklos, legal theorist at December 12, 2017 02:54 AM (zCyNd)

587 "A Gushka bit my sister once..."

(will self-denounce upon request)

Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at December 12, 2017 02:57 AM (zCyNd)

588 "Ou sont les comments d'antan..."

Posted by: Francois "Miki" Villon at December 12, 2017 03:07 AM (zCyNd)

589 Just saw Roy Moore's wife on the teevee. I don't know if we've talked about this when I wasn't looking.

She was going on about "Roy Moore has many black friends and we fellowship with them. And our lawyer is a Jew."

Did she go to charicature school and ace all the tests?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, in touch with his toxic masculinity in his desire to oppress someone at December 12, 2017 03:07 AM (fuK7c)

590 Did she go to charicature school and ace all the tests?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, in touch with his toxic masculinity in his desire to oppress someone at December 12, 2017 03:07 AM (fuK7c)

She was perfect.

Posted by: Karl Rove at December 12, 2017 03:09 AM (zCyNd)

591 "Ou sont les comments d'antan..."

Mourant?

Posted by: Snowden at December 12, 2017 03:10 AM (fuK7c)

592 591 "Ou sont les comments d'antan..."

Mourant?

Posted by: Snowden at December 12, 2017 03:10 AM (fuK7c)

C'est une bonne!

Posted by: accent aigu n'est permite Pixy at December 12, 2017 03:12 AM (zCyNd)

593 Answering, "how is everything?", is a tedious process that cuts into Things I Could/Should Be Doing.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 02:53 AM (Ckg4U)

Indeed. and then there is the whole awkward question if "where do i start?"
several of my issues are due to other people behaving badly. I cant control it but i sure as hell wish they would stop. Some is due to dying mother. This is simply painful and scary. why? because: mom thats why. Making the whole family lose their damn minds.

then there is my prodigal that I wish like Hell would check into Table 9. Arbalest was asking about him and everyone else too. its the time of year i hear from him and i sure as shit wish he'd let me know hes ok. Thats the one on the prayer list. That jackass breaks my heart. Rose and Birkenstock Cowboy keep waiting for him to show up, too.

then theres the sick one on the prayer list i told you about. i have not clue what to do about that. None at all. worse than the prodigal.
I am seriously considering selling another horse just to solve another problem and get it off my plate. Ben Had and i talk about it off and on. but shes such a nice cowhorse i almost hate to let her go. i will never have another quarter horse mare of this quality fall into my hands like this again...

Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 03:13 AM (9G8jN)

594 That's a bingo! Is that how you say?

Posted by: Col. Hans Landa at December 12, 2017 03:15 AM (fuK7c)

595 587
"A Gushka bit my sister once..."



(will self-denounce upon request)

Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at December 12, 2017 02:57 AM (zCyNd)

Highly likely. (no denunciations required.)

Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 03:15 AM (9G8jN)

596 Do you have a proposal based on your experience? Some version of loser pays?

Posted by: Miklo

* * * * *

Loser pays is in place statutorily on most contract suits in most jurisdictions. The sticky one is tort. The "loser pays" rule would need to be tweaked in tort to define "lose" (it may seem straightforward, it's not) as that is defined in, say, FLMA suits. Either party is deemed "the loser" if the other party wins a judgment (sans atty fees) that exceeds by $1 the opposing party's best and final offer to settle prior to trial. That forces parties to go into mediation realistically and offer to settle in real world dollars and not pie in the sky BS hopes one way or the other. The downside is that it still has the potential for giant verdicts in slip and fall jury cases and the bar doesn't want to touch those. The competing sides of plaintiffs' lawyers and insurance defense lawyers is simply irreconcilable which is why there has been all talk and little movement. Both are extremely formidable opponents in the lobbying arena. My first two years in practice were lobbying and I had to pretend to be a flaming liberal b/c my mentor was a high powered partner out of San Diego during Clinton 1. I'd go home and shower off the filth each night - it was disgusting. Upside was I saw the inner workings of the machine and that formed my view of the cesspool. Funny thing is, I made my nest egg by playing alone with the plaintiff bar as a closet Conservative. It can be done, it's tough to not get found out.

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 03:19 AM (xHVD5)

597 -Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 03:13 AM (9G8jN)

God bless you and keep you, dear lady.

Might those around you find Him.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 03:22 AM (Ckg4U)

598 We lost our beautiful and beloved 5 yr old German Shepherd, Bella, this past summer to some wicked neurological disorder. It raced thru her in only two weeks and she was paralyzed in both front and rear legs in no time. Called Genetic Mylopathy. Thought about sending in another photo and brief story to the Moron Pets page but I'm too heartbroken to finish anything in writing on it. We submitted a photo of her to Moron Pets a year or so ago in healthy times (she was dressed up for Halloween in Shirley Temple wig with a beret - anyone recall that?). Anyone that has a GSD, watch out for that nasty thing.

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 03:28 AM (xHVD5)

599 Anyone that has a GSD, watch out for that nasty thing.


Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 03:28 AM (xHVD5)

i am so sorry. i ran across pix of my Grimmy's beautiful white cat under the tree as i was trying to put it up and could not stop crying for a few minutes. weird how hard the little furs loss can hit you.

Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 03:33 AM (9G8jN)

600 God bless you and keep you, dear lady.



Might those around you find Him.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 03:22 AM (Ckg4U)

thanks man. you have no idea how i appreciate it.

Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 03:34 AM (9G8jN)

601 Highly likely. (no denunciations required.)

Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 03:15 AM (9G8jN)

I rode and dealt with horses for about 15 years, I stopped when I was dragged/trampled by a horse that I had ridden many times. I don't blame the horse, but my knees are such because of that that my promising NBA career was permanently ended. OK, maybe not eh last part.

I really envied those who could establish that special Horse/rider understanding. I could not. I guess I am an Equine Asperger too.

I simply cannot imagine how one of your horses could have done that.

P.S. I am an old school Calvinist, and I pray, but never in public.

Posted by: m at December 12, 2017 03:35 AM (zCyNd)

602 P.S. I am an old school Calvinist, and I pray, but never in public.

Posted by: m at December 12, 2017 03:35 AM (zCyNd)


ಠ_ಠ

Posted by: R. Giskard Reventlov at December 12, 2017 03:39 AM (itfg0)

603 You're welcome, Sweetheart.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 03:40 AM (Ckg4U)

604 I am seriously considering selling another horse just to solve another problem and get it off my plate. Ben Had and i talk about it off and on. but shes such a nice cowhorse i almost hate to let her go. i will never have another quarter horse mare of this quality fall into my hands like this again...



Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 03:13 AM (9G8jN)


I hate selling anything that's next to impossible to replace. I always go by the rule that if I don't need the money then fuck it, I'm keeping it. Especially if its something that's a mood lifter, or makes me happy, and more so if its rare or irreplaceable.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 12, 2017 03:41 AM (aMlLZ)

605 Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 03:19 AM (xHVD5)

I am thinking about something perhaps about outside the box you describe.

Would it work, if the lawmaking lawyers would establish that:

-the legal team (lawyers and support staff) can work on contingency, but no more than 15%

- this would change the nature of class actions

-in case of summary dismissal, the representing lawyer is suspended for a year

-on a local level, how would you change it to make it more honest and effective?

Posted by: Miklos. who bought one lawyer a sweet Audi at December 12, 2017 03:43 AM (zCyNd)

606
So I'm doing a dining room makeover. Thinking about installing a fireplace, but not traditional, one that uses ethanol fuel. But ethanol can be kind of pricey. So maybe DIY. Maybe buy a still. But they're kind of pricey. There are stills that you can assemble yourself for about half the cost. When the SHTF a still could be pretty useful for bartering.

There are a number of possible outcomes of this project:
[ ] successful completion
[ ] explosion
[ ] perp walked by the Bureau of Alcohol and Firearms

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 03:44 AM (ajiE5)

607 Night all.

Here is "Cry of the Banshee" by Brocas Helm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSpcLMf22cc

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 03:44 AM (itfg0)

608 Posted by: R. Giskard Reventlov at December 12, 2017 03:39 AM (itfg0)

Yes, there are exceptions.

Especially when there is a Lord to be praised and ammunition to be passed.

Posted by: Miklos, son of 50 year deacon at December 12, 2017 03:46 AM (zCyNd)

609 [ ] all of the above.






*just kidding. I'm totally going to explode.

Posted by: The Still That Might Not Explode at December 12, 2017 03:49 AM (fuK7c)

610
I hate selling anything that's next to
impossible to replace. I always go by the rule that if I don't need the
money then fuck it, I'm keeping it. Especially if its something that's a
mood lifter, or makes me happy, and more so if its rare or
irreplaceable.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 12, 2017 03:41 AM (aMlLZ)

totally my reasoning. people tell me i am crazy but i would rather sell my colts now and keep her. ok i would rather sell the really GOOD colt, and make a ton of money and keep both the mare and this little guy i am so attached to.

Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 12, 2017 03:52 AM (9G8jN)

611 Posted by: The Still That Might Not Explode at December 12, 2017 03:49 AM (fuK7c)

The classic Italian espresso device depicted can technically work on an electric cooktop.

Not recommended.

Please include appropriate waivers, disclaimers. etc.

Posted by: Miklos,he make a good cappuchino at December 12, 2017 03:53 AM (zCyNd)

612 *just kidding. I'm totally going to explode.

Posted by: The Still That Might Not Explode at December 12, 2017 03:49 AM (fuK7c)


LOL. I've been doing some research. The alcohol perks off at about 170 plus degrees. So you have to keep the still in the 'sweet spot' of more than 170 plus degrees and less than 212.

I think the lost art of moonshining will be a valuable skill when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 03:55 AM (ajiE5)

613 You don't want to fill over the pressure release valve, I know. What difference does being on an electric cooktop make?

Posted by: S. Bialetti at December 12, 2017 03:59 AM (fuK7c)

614 I think the lost art of moonshining will be a valuable skill when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 03:55 AM (ajiE5)

You can buy limited capacity stills on Amazon.

In Hungary, a complete setup costs about $800.

Actually I even know about the legalities, as I had the first brewing/distillation license in my state granted since King George.

Posted by: Miklos, one quarter Scotch-Irish at December 12, 2017 04:02 AM (zCyNd)

615 S. Bialetti-

You magnificent bastard! I drank your coffee!

Posted by: Miklos, way past bedtime at December 12, 2017 04:05 AM (zCyNd)

616 You can buy limited capacity stills on Amazon.

In Hungary, a complete setup costs about $800.

Actually I even know about the legalities, as I had the first brewing/distillation license in my state granted since King George.

Posted by: Miklos, one quarter Scotch-Irish at December 12, 2017 04:02 AM (zCyNd)


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Some assembly (soldering with torch) required. It's actually legal to own a still but you have to register with BATF if you're using it to make moonshine or fuel. Not if you're making distilled water.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 04:07 AM (ajiE5)

617
Mandrake. Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol?

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 04:11 AM (ajiE5)

618 Oh, I'm all about distilled water. Just pure water, purified by the distillation process, which makes me more pure.

Posted by: Fermented Corn Mash at December 12, 2017 04:12 AM (fuK7c)

619 Some assembly (soldering with torch) required. It's actually legal to own a still but you have to register with BATF if you're using it to make moonshine or fuel. Not if you're making distilled water.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 04:07 AM (ajiE5)

Water. Precisely.

Alcohol is a known and accepted solvent and cleaning agent.

Actually, the rules about small production do not really exist. It has always been a tax question. The last time I checked (about 3 years ago) 20 gallons/year was considered uninteresting to the revenueers.

Posted by: Miklos, hell, I drank the Sheriff's moonshine at December 12, 2017 04:15 AM (zCyNd)

620 5 Gallon Copper "Moonshine" Still Kit
4.2 out of 5 stars 37 customer reviews
| 49 answered questions
Price: $274.00

This is on the same level as Sea Monkeys.

You have to ferment the stuff first. Not included.

Pro Tip from Grandaddy:

"If it's good, hell the Sheriff don't care, long as he gets his gallon. Do that stuff that makes people blind, hell I'll shoot you before the Sheriff know where you gone"

Posted by: Miklos, hell, I drank the Sheriff's moonshine at December 12, 2017 04:22 AM (zCyNd)

621 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2017 04:24 AM (aC6Sd)

622 hell I'll shoot you before the Sheriff know where you gone


Lol

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 12, 2017 04:26 AM (fuK7c)

623 okay: i'm officially done with Q posts on 4/8 chan.

it's impossible to figure out WTF they're talking about, and the zillion and a half links to more arcane "information" is more than i care to try and deal with, especially on this ancient Vista box. hell, just being on Twatter or FB for more than a few minutes makes it lock up.

with that, i should likely hit the rack....

hasta, y'all!

and everyone remember to cheer up: things are bound to get worse!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 04:29 AM (ysYy6)

624 Lol

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 12, 2017 04:26 AM (fuK7c)

Grandaddy has been gone these many years, if what he said gave you a good laugh, I am sure he heard it and he is laughing too

-laugh today

-"well it damn true at the time"-Graddaddy c. 1953

Posted by: Miklos, hell, I drank the Sheriff's moonshine at December 12, 2017 04:39 AM (zCyNd)

625 Good Morning.

Posted by: Skip's first mug o'covfefe at December 12, 2017 04:40 AM (zCyNd)

626 Pro Tip from Grandaddy:

"If it's good, hell the Sheriff don't care, long as he gets his gallon. Do that stuff that makes people blind, hell I'll shoot you before the Sheriff know where you gone"

Posted by: Miklos, hell, I drank the Sheriff's moonshine at December 12, 2017 04:22 AM (zCyNd)


Yeah, important first step. Maybe most important if the alcohol is going to be consumed. The first distillate created contains the methyl alcohol which has the lowest boiling point. Around 149 degrees F.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 04:46 AM (ajiE5)

627 News you can use:

Sea Monkeys:

Astronaut John Glenn took Sea-Monkeys into space on October 29, 1998 aboard Space Shuttle Discovery during mission STS-95. After nine days in space, they were returned to Earth, and hatched eight weeks later apparently unaffected by their travels.[5] However, earlier experiments on Apollo 16 and Apollo 17, where the eggs (along with other biological systems in a state of rest, such as spores, seeds and cysts) travelled to the Moon and back and were exposed to significant cosmic rays, observed a high sensitivity to cosmic radiation in the Artemia salina eggs; only 10% of the embryos which were induced to develop from hit eggs survived to adulthood. The most common mutations found during the developmental stages of the radiated eggs were deformations of the abdomen or deformations on the swimming appendages and naupliar eye of the nauplius.[6]


Yeah, like we're gonna ever set up colonies in space if Sea-Monkeys are mutating from cosmic rays and radiation.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 04:52 AM (ajiE5)

628 Yeah, important first step. Maybe most important if the alcohol is going to be consumed. The first distillate created contains the methyl alcohol which has the lowest boiling point. Around 149 degrees F.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 04:46 AM (ajiE5)

Well I think this was the joke. If you have any fear that the thing is going to explode, you are in the wrong line of business.

Posted by: And then you water it down at December 12, 2017 04:53 AM (zCyNd)

629 Yeah, like we're gonna ever set up colonies in space if Sea-Monkeys are mutating from cosmic rays and radiation.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 04:52 AM (ajiE5)

Think about the girl of your dreams. with two of the one and three of the other.

Posted by: The unbearable lightness of being at December 12, 2017 04:56 AM (zCyNd)

630 Nothing in particular but reading around Leftists are getting beyond belie

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2017 04:57 AM (aC6Sd)

631 Oh-and five hands to hand you pizza and beer.

Posted by: The unbearable lightness of being at December 12, 2017 04:57 AM (zCyNd)

632 2018 will be a wonderful year..

The #2 at the FBI did not show before Senate committee, which means he will be called back under subpoena.

I think JackStraw is on to this.

Cousin Beauregard may be waiting for the IG and congressional investigators to turn over the rocks.

Posted by: The unbearable lightness of Miklos at December 12, 2017 05:06 AM (zCyNd)

633 Yeah, like we're gonna ever set up colonies in space if Sea-Monkeys are mutating from cosmic rays and radiation.


Ruh roh. Are we still cool?

Posted by: X-Ray Glasses at December 12, 2017 05:07 AM (fuK7c)

634 Ruh roh. Are we still cool?

Posted by: X-Ray Glasses at December 12, 2017 05:07 AM (fuK7c)

Sure. If you come over in the mail order submarine.

Posted by: Every Comic Book at December 12, 2017 05:10 AM (zCyNd)

635 634 Ruh roh. Are we still cool?

Posted by: X-Ray Glasses at December 12, 2017 05:07 AM (fuK7c)

Sure. If you come over in the mail order submarine.
Posted by: Every Comic Book at December 12, 2017 05:10 AM (zCyNd)

Riding on a homemade hover craft.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 12, 2017 05:13 AM (ycWCI)

636 Riding on a homemade hover craft.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 12, 2017 05:13 AM (ycWCI)

You don't need a "craft" to "hover"


We took many calls on this topic. From both East and West of the Rockies.

Posted by: Art Bell's audio archives at December 12, 2017 05:16 AM (zCyNd)

637 At this moment, is Vic finishing the last of the last one, or starting a new one?

Posted by: Ernie K-Doe at December 12, 2017 05:24 AM (zCyNd)

638 I hate selling anything that's next to
impossible to replace. I always go by the rule that if I don't need the
money then fuck it, I'm keeping it. Especially if its something that's a
mood lifter, or makes me happy, and more so if its rare or
irreplaceable.

Yor agree. But Yor have Jersey heifer calf to sell. Registered daughter of Forest Glen T-Bone Tebow - P. Buy now, avoid the Christmas stampede.

Posted by: Yor, the Hunter from the Future at December 12, 2017 05:39 AM (Jj+59)

639 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:01 AM (hyuyC)

640 Good Morning. Up and at them at 445 cst. A whole seven hours of sleep. I'm usually happy if I get six in a row.

This means tonite, I get four

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2017 06:23 AM (8ikIW)

641 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2017 06:24 AM (rXkis)

642 NaCly Dog-

That is all the easier today, because I think I have found the perfect woman (each to his or xer own, of course)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FcIFVqdxTw

Posted by: Miklos, from Nawlins, dawlins at December 12, 2017 06:25 AM (zCyNd)

643 Bruce

I have some tech manuals or textbooks I could loan you. You'd be out like a light.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:25 AM (hyuyC)

644 Miklos, from Nawlins, dawlins

She is yours. Good luck.


To me, she scores high on the hot / skilled / high maintenance trifecta.

Of course, every woman or man is high maintenance to some degree or another.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:29 AM (hyuyC)

645 NaCly Dog,

Might be worth a shot.

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2017 06:30 AM (8ikIW)

646 To me, she scores high on the hot / skilled / high maintenance trifecta.

Of course, every woman or man is high maintenance to some degree or another.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:29 AM (hyuyC)

I'm thinking a good investment.

Posted by: Miklos, from Nawlins, dawlins at December 12, 2017 06:30 AM (zCyNd)

647 Miklos, from Nawlins, dawlins

Concur. Great memories in the very least, and maybe a great life filled with grandchildren.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:32 AM (hyuyC)

648 Of course, every woman or man is high maintenance to some degree or another.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:29 AM (hyuyC)

True, man, but my Dad is a TV repairman and he's got a bitchin' set of tools.

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at December 12, 2017 06:33 AM (zCyNd)

649 Miklos, from Nawlins, dawlins

Been to her website and seen where the nearest performance is? And how about your search of her criminal record, address, divorce decrees?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:34 AM (hyuyC)

650 Jeff Spicoli

Every Moron "I've got the right tool right here." *Makes gesture*

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:35 AM (hyuyC)

651 I had read Trumps! tweet from yesterday regarding the NYT and them saying he watches 4-8 hours of TV a day.

He should have said that he watches 10 hours a day. Needs the info so he can do his brackets next year. ESPN will be calling.

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2017 06:37 AM (8ikIW)

652 Every Moron "I've got the right tool right here." *Makes gesture*

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:35 AM (hyuyC)

As long as it's not on the cooking thread.

Posted by: Miklos does not like organ meats, and never worked in Hollywood at December 12, 2017 06:38 AM (zCyNd)

653 Been to her website and seen where the nearest performance is? And how about your search of her criminal record, address, divorce decrees?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:34 AM (hyuyC)

She's Slovak, but then Swiss.

Rich Russians can arrange such things.

Posted by: Miklos can cover 8 keys, that girl does 9 at December 12, 2017 06:40 AM (zCyNd)

654 648 650 Jeff Spicoli

Not to make this the book thread, but that is what some Egyptian troops in -800 BC did. They were abandoned by their leadership and were defecting to Ethiopia. A general that just arrived asked them to return to Egypt, and not abandon their wives and children.

The troops grabbed their genitals and said "While we have this we will not lack for wives or children."

The tale is in The Histories by Herodotus.
Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:41 AM (hyuyC)

655 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 12, 2017 06:41 AM (EyPfd)

656 Truism:

For every insanely hot chick out there, there's a guy, somewhere, who is tired of her shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2017 06:42 AM (rXkis)

657 Of course, my main question is, can she cook like her Slovak grandmother?

Because that's all that really counts.

Posted by: Miklos can cover 8 keys, that girl does 9 at December 12, 2017 06:42 AM (zCyNd)

658 Have been up all night running out year end numbers on the biz. Brutal all nighter folks. 4:45 out here in AZ but nice to log in to check comments and see the ONT still up - gives the false impression it's still "night" and I could still get a couple hours sleep before the death knell starts. Yeah right.

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 06:42 AM (xHVD5)

659 Hokey somokes.

JJ is NOOD!!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2017 06:43 AM (8ikIW)

660 Tonypete: "When I viewed the cookbook on Amazon today, the item listed in *What other items do customers buy after viewing this item?* was Visual Guide to Lock Picking."

I woulda thunk assless chaps, crossbows, and pudding.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 12, 2017 06:44 AM (H8S+R)

661 gives the false impression it's still "night" and I could still get a couple hours sleep before the death knell starts. Yeah right.
Posted by: MSTisdale

Call it a night. JJ has the Morning Report up

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2017 06:44 AM (8ikIW)

662 What is the percentage of "dateable" gals out there in the 37 - 55 yr old range, morons?

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 06:44 AM (xHVD5)

663 Truism:

For every insanely hot chick out there, there's a guy, somewhere, who is tired of her shit.
Posted by: rickb223

That is true, but it can be expanded to a larger statement. The trick is doing just enough, and accept just enough, so you don't have to say "Next."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:44 AM (hyuyC)

664 J.J is nood? Got to get ready for work. Have a great day. See you at the end of his thread.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:45 AM (hyuyC)

665 Call it a night. JJ has the Morning Report up

Posted by: Bruce

* * * *

Oh no, I didn't refresh? Whoops - off to catch a Z on the couch. Night/Mornin' all.

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 06:46 AM (xHVD5)

666 The troops grabbed their genitals and said "While we have this we will not lack for wives or children."

The tale is in The Histories by Herodotus.
Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 06:41 AM (hyuyC)


Oddly enough, in my fours years of Latin, Sister Immaculata Baldwina never introduced us to that passage.

Posted by: Miklos can still translate Latin, somewhat at December 12, 2017 06:47 AM (zCyNd)

667 "filed a unique lawsuit"
No, it's not unique. They've tried this at least twice before, and been shot down both times.

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2017 08:58 AM (bPZSS)

668 Some assembly (soldering with torch) required. It's
actually legal to own a still but you have to register with BATF if
you're using it to make moonshine or fuel. Not if you're making
distilled water.



Posted by: Acme Explosives at December 12, 2017 04:07 AM (ajiE5)



Water. Precisely.



Alcohol is a known and accepted solvent and cleaning agent.



Actually, the rules about small production do not really exist. It
has always been a tax question. The last time I checked (about 3 years
ago) 20 gallons/year was considered uninteresting to the revenueers.

Posted by: Miklos, hell, I drank the Sheriff's moonshine at December 12, 2017 04:15 AM (zCyNd)

Possession of a still in Virginia (even a non-working one) is a felony regardless of whether the feds care or not... I personally think that law is a travesty. If I can brew my own beer, I ought to be able to make my own hard liquor too.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 04:19 PM (SrkNc)

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