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#ButGorsuch: Rich Lowry Asks If The NeverTrumpers' Sarcastic Hashtag, "#ButGorsuch," Is Warranted

Whenever the NeverTrump fruitbats want to stick it to their enemies, actual Republicans, they'll post something derogatory about Trump and then say "But Gorsuch," a sarcastic mockery of actual Republicans who believe, correctly, that the Gorsuch appointment was a major victory for conservatism and ameliorates a certain amount of Trumpish buffoonery.

And is it really just "But Gorsuch"?


But Gorsuch ... and Other Excellent Judicial Picks ... and a Tax Cut ... and Major Deregulatory Actions ... and Immigration Enforcement ... and the End of the Individual Mandate ... and a Roll Back of the HHS Mandate ...

. . . and the reversal of the insane Title IX policy on campus . . . and an exit from the Paris Accords . . . and the avoidance of whatever Hillary would have wrought.

...

Trump has governed so far as more of a Republican and conservative than I expected. Outside a brief flirtation with Chuck and Nancy and some unserious talks with Democrats over the tax bill, hes had no interest in working with Democrats (in fact, has spent time insulting them). Remember: One of Bush's big first-year accomplishments was partnering with Teddy Kennedy on wholly ill-considered federal education legislation, No Child Left Behind. There has been nothing like that during Trump's first year.

And coming soon: But opening ANWR to oil exploration.

NeverTrumpers seem to care less about the conservative movement's health than their status in the pecking order within the conservative movement. Just as liberals shrieked about their own loss of status post-9/11, liberal-ish Upper Middle Class country club Republicans are howling and shredding their garments over their own dimunition of status and influence post 11/9.


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1 Time warp

Posted by: Ann at December 05, 2017 03:07 PM (jtHQy)

2 Hmmm maybe it is my iPad time

Posted by: Ann at December 05, 2017 03:07 PM (jtHQy)

3 I've been here an hour, but I refuse to type "first".

Posted by: Jwest at December 05, 2017 03:08 PM (/roJx)

4 Ok, this is day 2 of this stuff. I mention an article and you post it. This is like the 3rd time.

I'm starting to suspect that you are me.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:08 PM (/tuJf)

5 Was there any this #but when Bathhouse B+rry was in office?

Posted by: torabora at December 05, 2017 03:08 PM (6dFYM)

6 I'm also looking forward to the day when Ginsburg and Kennedy drop dead.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 03:10 PM (/qEW2)

7 But Trump ripping the masks of democrats pretending to be conservatives is a huge win.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:10 PM (3BFzK)

8 I'm starting to suspect that you are me.
-----

I've had the same experience as well.

Ace is also me.

Or he reads the comments.

/but that can't be right.

Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:11 PM (aT+Bx)

9 and also coming soon, agency spending reforms.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 03:11 PM (LISuA)

10 the whole "muh fainting couch" over trump saying icky things is shit, has to be done.

Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:11 PM (TlvUt)

11 I'm starting to suspect that you are me.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:08 PM (/tuJf)

Are you the evil alternate universe Ace? Or the good Ace?

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:11 PM (Ri/rl)

12 Was there any this #but when Bathhouse B+rry was in office?
---

We're Nuanced and Evolving!

Posted by: NeverTrumper #but! at December 05, 2017 03:11 PM (aT+Bx)

13 Lets not forget how the true conservatives of the HOR and senate gave bathhouse Barry a blank check to spend but NOW are concerned about how to pay for tax breaks.

F them all!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:11 PM (3BFzK)

14 Hillary Clinton will never be president.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2017 03:12 PM (KUaJL)

15 Well said indeed. Trump has been a pleasant surprise, seeing has he was a NY Dem for his entire life. He could try to act more presidential, but he sure gets his opponents to howling left and right when he zings them. GWB took the high road like his father before him and was crucified for it by the Dems.

Posted by: Happydude at December 05, 2017 03:12 PM (kDFEG)

16 the gop bettah start defending itself instead of giving concessions to the James Hodgkins' left.

Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:12 PM (TlvUt)

17 I AM ACE!

Posted by: Spartacus at December 05, 2017 03:12 PM (fuK7c)

18 >>Are you the evil alternate universe Ace? Or the good Ace?

We take shifts.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:12 PM (/tuJf)

19 Dammit, this terrific picture of young Joe Scarborough got willowed:

https://tinyurl.com/y6u6ff7o

A palate cleanser for when he goes off on Trump again tomorrow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:13 PM (ZRC8N)

20 trump has been a very pleasant surprise. None of us really knew how awesome he'd be. Still no wall tho.

and I want to be doing my own version of the Flynn Scalp Dance the insane left did last week when we get:

huma
comey
mueller
hillary
podesta

Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:13 PM (TlvUt)

21 Trump has been a pleasant surprise, seeing has he was a NY Dem for his
entire life. He could try to act more presidential, but he sure gets his
opponents to howling left and right when he zings them. GWB took the
high road like his father before him and was crucified for it by the
Dems.
---

Bushes were white collar don't make waves guys.

For whatever reason, Trump acts blue collar and has no problem ripping someones head off. In fact, he might even enjoy it.

It's another reason they hate him.

He's not... of the body.

Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:14 PM (aT+Bx)

22 Wait, Lowry said this? At NR?

Has anyone sent a nurse to check his temperature? I thought NR was pretty much NeverTrump HQ.

Posted by: Vanceone at December 05, 2017 03:14 PM (HDMVB)

23 No, it's not warranted. Trump has been a tremendous president, luxurious and classy. Fuck the nevertrumpers. I can understand being against him during the primaries and even being concerned during the general election but he's done nothing, nothing that compares to the shit that's been spewing out of the uniparty for the past 16 years.

As has been said before, who could have forseen that?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 05, 2017 03:14 PM (Vzqe+)

24 A palate cleanser for when he goes off on Trump again tomorrow.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:13 PM (ZRC8N)

What a giant dork.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:15 PM (Ri/rl)

25 I think Trump thoroughly enjoys the yapping of the NeverTrumpers. To him, they're like annoying little purse dogs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:15 PM (ZRC8N)

26 Rape all the bears!

Posted by: Leo D.C. at December 05, 2017 03:15 PM (xBSm0)

27 willow from other thread which I repeat bc I like the response:

244 >>fuck the trap, be the fucking. Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 02:44 PM (TlvUt)

And do so while appropriating their language:

"We're the Fuck-You We've Been Waiting For!"

Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:15 PM (TlvUt)

28 And Trump is apparently now drawing a bead on welfare reform, with the "If You Don't Work, You Don't Eat" Act.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:15 PM (YqDXo)

29 Pffft... let them eat my shorts and I will fart in their general direction.

Viva El Trump!!




Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2017 03:16 PM (xqfqx)

30 schlickter is woke AF...Comply or we lefties will call you more bad names in addition to the names we regularly call you.


meh, we're the fuck you we've been waiting for.

Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:16 PM (TlvUt)

31 When I see drastic civil service reform and an actual, functioning wall I will die of abdominal muscle spasms. Until then, the Donald has done enough that I can call his first year a pretty good start.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 03:16 PM (RD7QR)

32 What I am about to say will have me subject to arrest in no time, but here goes: Trump has done some things right, and some other things make me cringe.

I'm not joining the Trump Personality Cult, but nor am I about to hold a Two Minutes Hate for Trump once an hour either.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2017 03:16 PM (u0f7+)

33 And Trump is apparently now drawing a bead on welfare reform, with the "If You Don't Work, You Don't Eat" Act.
========

And I hope a large part of "reform" is, if you're not a legal citizen, too damn bad. No welfare for you!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 05, 2017 03:16 PM (vg8iE)

34 Also, #NotHillary!.

I mean, you'd *think* that would be enough...

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 05, 2017 03:16 PM (hXeKX)

35 7 But Trump ripping the masks of democrats pretending to be conservatives is a huge win.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:10 PM (3BFzK)
-------

My working theory is Trump want's to undue every last thing Obama had done in office; Make him a footnote in history. On issues he could go either way, I'm sure he ask's "What Obama do" and goes the opposite way.

It also happened to line up with the paper tiger rhetoric of the RINO Republicans and when it came to put up or shut up, they exposed themselves.'

Trump's walking the walk.

Posted by: WisRich at December 05, 2017 03:17 PM (G0vdT)

36 As someone who backed Ted, I am surprised with the Donald tenure so far. Give then hell Mr. President.

I hope he as come to realize that there is no working with the progressives, both GOP and Democrats. And starts to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. Starting with Hillary, Comey and Mueller on the uranium deal. TREASON!

Posted by: Paladin at December 05, 2017 03:17 PM (bxc5w)

37 It really reveals what weak soup 43 was.

His first move was appointing all the Clinton judges.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2017 03:17 PM (LWu6U)

38 For whatever reason, Trump acts blue collar and has no problem ripping someones head off. In fact, he might even enjoy it.

It's another reason they hate him.

He's not... of the body.
Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:14 PM (aT+Bx)


He's a brawler, and obviously loves throwing those roundhouse ghetto whompers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:17 PM (YqDXo)

39 still no wall...and no lock her up.

and now since the left's impeachment commission is trying to resurrect the logan act, fuck them all, total war you shall get.

Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:17 PM (TlvUt)

40 Guess what?

Chicken #but

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at December 05, 2017 03:17 PM (Pd0Uc)

41 BUt, but !JEB!,

I am sure that a Jebby Bush Admin would have given us a compassionate conservative amnesty and eliminated Obamacare with a wonderful comprehensive single payer system.

Posted by: rd at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (4dz1m)

42 My working theory is Trump want's to undue every last thing Obama had done in office; Make him a footnote in history. On issues he could go either way, I'm sure he ask's "What Obama do" and goes the opposite way.

It's a good litmus test, IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (YqDXo)

43 Romney says we need to elect a Democrat instead of Moore. Romney apparently did a full investigation and decreed Moore guilty of even proven lies.

So can we believe Romney, who it is proven has not paid taxes for ten years? (it has to be true, Harry Reid said so from the senate floor)

Romney the dog torturer ... should let his sleeping dogs lie. So should the other spoiled NeverTrumpers that pose as conservatives.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (/aIFg)

44 I guess if the choice was Bernie Sanders or Hillary, then, okay, sure, reasonable people can disagree on which fvckwagon would be less catastrophic, or if we should go ahead and jump-start the Burning Times or defect to Kurdistan or what.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (hXeKX)

45 38 He's a brawler, and obviously loves throwing those roundhouse ghetto whompers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:17 PM (YqDXo)

"Worldstar" Donald Trump.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (9TK8E)

46 NRO is the filter drain at the bottom of the swamp.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (r9UYA)

47 37 It really reveals what weak soup 43 was.

His first move was appointing all the Clinton judges.

+++++++

and bringing in all the muslims. after 9-11. because we need to show we care. or something.

fuck that guy.

and by all the muslims, I also mean all the other 3rd world too

Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (TlvUt)

48 28 And Trump is apparently now drawing a bead on welfare reform, with the "If You Don't Work, You Don't Eat" Act.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:15 PM (YqDXo)

That would bring the ole schadenboner at least to half mast. Not to overshare or anything.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (RD7QR)

49 I remember 2 years ago listening to Jay Cost on The Weekly Standard podcast and he said something to the effect of "make no mistake, if Trump wins the nomination, we will see a Hillary landslide of epic proportions, she'll likely get over 400 electoral votes"

Now that douche, along with many other 'Conservatives' are just hating on all things Trump; they are indecipherable from the people at the NYTs. They care more about licking their wounds from being so wrong than they do about promoting conservatism.

Posted by: ryan at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (blRcL)

50 Yeah, Rich Lowry at NRO wrote this?

Wait for Kevin Williamson to head butt him, or something like that.

Maybe they'll all denounce him, Soviet Style, tomorrow.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (vcOmj)

51 "...and the avoidance of whatever Hillary would have wrought."

If Trump did nothing else, he did deny Hillary!.

Do not ever underestimate that accomplishment and the wisdom of the nation (such as it is) when Trump was, ahem, installed.

Purge Clintonia and do nothing else. That's #winning, Baby.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (H8S+R)

52 28 And Trump is apparently now drawing a bead on welfare reform, with the "If You Don't Work, You Don't Eat" Act.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:15 PM (YqDXo)

I hope he uses Bill Clinton's language verbatim when talking about welfare reform.

As another person just wrote upthread my fantasy policy would be to outlaw public sector unions and build the wall.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (Ri/rl)

53 Just as liberals shrieked about their own loss of status post-9/11,
liberal-ish Upper Middle Class country club Republicans are howling and
shredding their garments over their own dimunition of status and
influence post 11/9.


Careful, don't get between AtC and a snark we all wished we'd typed.

Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (FhXTo)

54 The first time I was impressed with Trump was when, after 911, he said we should rebuild the towers as they were, only taller.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (LWu6U)

55 Wait -- Isn't Lowry the editor in chief of #nevertrump central?

Is that particular worm turning?

But it's okay; we will always have Jonah and Kevin to hold the candle aloft.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (0ogQG)

56 Lowery refers to "Anti-Trump conservatives". Steven Hayes? No way, since he enthusiastically works for and parrots the views of a Democrat who recently unleashed his "inner Socialist". Egg McMuffin? Please.

So who would be in this group.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (LISuA)

57 Anything not Hillary is a blessing, Gorsuch is just icing on the cake

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (aC6Sd)

58 but the economy

but tax reform

but the stock market

but jobs

but the epic and continual ass kickin of the media

Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (FPW+K)

59 I voted for Gorsuch a year ago last November. What I got as a bonus was several items I have wanted since 1989, but the GOP kept getting in the way.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (7ZVPa)

60 "None of us really knew how awesome he'd be."

A lot of us did. That's why he won primary after primary.

Posted by: Morning Joe at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (03xNs)

61 Oh yeah Gorsuch and all that but he forgot to mention the REALLY big deal.

Hillary will NEVER be president!

Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (6ZMLS)

62 42 My working theory is Trump want's to undue every last thing Obama had done in office; Make him a footnote in history. On issues he could go either way, I'm sure he ask's "What Obama do" and goes the opposite way.

It's a good litmus test, IMO.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (YqDXo)

What's the opposite of doing brackets for the NCAA tournament?

Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 03:20 PM (nBr1j)

63 I'd like to add #butnetneutrality to the list. It's hard to find any factual info on the whole net neutrality debate, because the libtards supporting it have filled the internet with false information. Ajit Pai was an Obama appointee before Trump promoted him, yet now he's a demon in the eyes of liberals. Why is Net Neutrality so important to them? I haven't seen a single case where Net Neutrality is needed or would make a difference. Yet. Will it be needed in the future? Hard to say, but we've functioned for 20 years without it. That being said, I think the fact that they're so fired up about it without any examples of why it's so important tells me that there's something else to it that we're not currently aware of. The power players of the left have determined it's very important, and they're telling their minions to make a lot of noise in an attempt to save it. My guess is it's an important piece in a future they're trying to build. Exactly what it is, I don't know, but I'm guessing it has to do with control of information.

Posted by: pete at December 05, 2017 03:20 PM (meg+g)

64 "...no interest in working with Democrats (in fact, has spent time insulting them)."
.............

Two things I find particularly endearing.

Posted by: wth at December 05, 2017 03:20 PM (2WITp)

65 What I got as a bonus was several items I have wanted since 1989, but the GOP kept getting in the way.

+++

there you have it, folks.

There is winning and then there's more winning and I am not yhet tired of it.

the cowardly GOP since 1990 has been afraid to fart lest they scare the moderates.

Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:21 PM (TlvUt)

66 Trump is actually trying to fulfill all his campaign promises--for that alone the Deep State wants his scalp.

I love this guy and I got to tell you that I couldn't stand him when he was just a celebrity or reality show host. I'm in NJ and I read all the NYC tabloids in the '80's when Trump's love life was splashed across the front page on a daily basis. I thought he was a big douche.

But i really do believe he learned something about the American people--and himself--during the campaign and Thank God he won.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:21 PM (7uYFy)

67 Those of his efforts done through executive orders, good as they might be, are still reversible once another Democrat president comes alone. Hardier solutions (ala legislation) would be welcome.

Posted by: Hal at December 05, 2017 03:21 PM (m+/ef)

68 And Trump is apparently now drawing a bead on welfare reform, with the "If You Don't Work, You Don't Eat" Act.

You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat.

Posted by: Pink Floyd. at December 05, 2017 03:21 PM (hXeKX)

69
But Goresuch
But NoNewRegulations
But TravelBan
But DefeatingIsis
But 24KDow
But BordercrossingsAt20YearLows
But ChineseLowerTarrifs
But TaxCuts

All but the last one was Trump acting entirely on his own.

Nevertrumpers can kiss my conservative ass.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2017 03:21 PM (8XRCm)

70 Donny is tweeting away while eat two scoops of ice cream and enjoying life. Don*t let anyone else tell you he isn*t.

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2017 03:21 PM (gbWkA)

71 The thing is Trump seems to be a man. You know, with balls and testosterone and stuff.

I do not think we had that since Reagan. Surely bubba had the equipment, but he was a child. a man child.

Maybe that is why they hate him.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (LWu6U)

72
Romney says we need to elect a Democrat instead of Moore. Romney apparently did a full investigation and decreed Moore guilty of even proven lies.



His binders full of women concluded Moore was guilty

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (lKyWE)

73 Does Mark Steyn still write for the NR, or was there a falling out? I'm pretty sure Steyn was terminated with extreme prejudicial sneering.

So there's that. Bring him back, NR.

Posted by: mrp at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (Pqytn)

74 Careful, don't get between AtC and a snark we all wished we'd typed.
Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2017 03:19 PM (FhXTo)

Alex the chick is my spirit animal.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (Ri/rl)

75 and the avoidance of whatever Hillary would have wrought.


Yeah. Even if Gorsuch was all he'd done, "avoidance of Hillary" would have been enough to justify electing him.

And imagine if Hillary won, Ginsburg and Kenned retire, and Hillary gets to pick 3 SCOTUS judges ... ugh... no.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (/qEW2)

76 I am sure that a Jebby Bush Admin would have given us a compassionate conservative amnesty and eliminated Obamacare with a wonderful comprehensive single payer system.
Posted by: rd at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (4dz1m)


Have you guys seen the compilation of Trump insults? It's priceless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-n3AMxdgsY

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (YqDXo)

77 The apostrophe is more powerful than Sonobi here.

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (gbWkA)

78 Professional politicals climb the ladder by making deals with each other, tying their successes or failures to each other.

Trump is where he is through his own doing, not their's.

Further, and possibly more importantly, he threatens the gravy train.

It's Existential. They can't have him succeed.


Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (yP91S)

79 *Kennedy*

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 03:23 PM (/qEW2)

80 NeverTrumpers are the same people who *still* take needless potshots at Sarah Palin years after her relevance.

Their ego is married to being one of the elite, and most decidedly NOT one of the vulgars like Trump, Palin, et. al. Which is to say, they will never change, they will never admit Trump was anything other than a failure and embarrassment.


Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:23 PM (W+vEI)

81 Steve F. Hayes will be the next to bow at the altar of Big Brass Balls.




Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2017 03:23 PM (xqfqx)

82 5 Was there any this #but when Bathhouse B+rry was in office?
Posted by: torabora at December 05, 2017 03:08 PM (6dFYM)

You misspelled #butt.

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 05, 2017 03:23 PM (vkS2Z)

83 The comments on Lowry's piece are gold.

Posted by: Trish at December 05, 2017 03:24 PM (M+MSn)

84 I'd like to add #butnetneutrality to the list

My take on Net Neutrality is that it's a bad idea because A) it looks ridiculously and needlessly complex, and that's never a good sign and 2) a bunch of people/organizations I don't trust are for it.

Mostly 'A,' I guess.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 05, 2017 03:24 PM (hXeKX)

85 Alex the chick is my spirit animal.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (Ri/rl)
That may be the most perfect comment I have ever seen on the entire interwebs, CaliGirl!

Now, please tell me you are not anywhere near those horrific fires in Ventura and Ojai. I got friends in those parts and I'm worried.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:24 PM (14URa)

86 The thing is Trump seems to be a man. You know, with balls and testosterone and stuff.

I do not think we had that since Reagan. Surely bubba had the equipment, but he was a child. a man child.

Maybe that is why they hate him.
==============\
That is one reason. Daddy issues.

There are others.

Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (uPBW2)

87 >>And imagine if Hillary won, Ginsburg and Kenned retire, and Hillary gets to pick 3 SCOTUS judges ... ugh... no.


And RBG swearing her in, followed by months and months of girrrrllll power swooning from the MSM.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (W+vEI)

88
73 Does Mark Steyn still write for the NR, or was there a falling out? I'm pretty sure Steyn was terminated with extreme prejudicial sneering.

So there's that. Bring him back, NR.
Posted by: mrp at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (Pqytn)

Steyn left NR because of the Michael Mann lawsuit. Not sure of the whole story.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (Ri/rl)

89 62. That's easy - MAGA deffskwadz boxing-chess tournament picks.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (WE/JH)

90 Steve F. Hayes will be the next to bow at the altar of Big Brass Balls.




Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2017 03:23 PM (xqfqx)

I can see almost all of them--except Kristol---eventually come around to Trump. Even Podhoretz.
Maybe not Goldberg.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (7uYFy)

91 67 Those of his efforts done through executive orders, good as they might be, are still reversible once another Democrat president comes alone. Hardier solutions (ala legislation) would be welcome.
Posted by: Hal at December 05, 2017 03:21 PM (m+/ef)

Yes, this is a big reservation and the reason why I'm not more enthusiastic about his first year. I realize he's fighting elements of his own party too but the lack of legislative achievements is worrying. Maybe now that we're headed into an election year he can get a couple more big things passed before everybody in Congress heads off to campaign.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (RD7QR)

92 20 trump has been a very pleasant surprise. None of us really knew how awesome he'd be. Still no wall tho.

and I want to be doing my own version of the Flynn Scalp Dance the insane left did last week when we get:

huma
comey
mueller
hillary
podesta
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 03:13 PM (TlvUt)

I have no problem with PDT giving Bill and Hillary a pardon, IF it includes convicting and sentencing all their little criminal minions to some serious jail time. All of them that deserve jail time.

Posted by: rd at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (4dz1m)

93 Trump's the most conservative president of my lifetime, and I voted for Reagan.

Trump's been a godsend.

That these NeverTrumpers don't admit something close to that is a virtual "I Hate Conservatism" T-Shirt. Oh, wait, a tie. T-shirts are for Deplorables.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (H8S+R)

94 It's Existential. They can't have him succeed.

Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (yP91S)


========

And it's existential for us as well. Too bad more people (like me) didn't realize this decades ago. We can't allow them to succeed.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (/qEW2)

95 Alex the chick is my spirit animal.

She's the Empress for good reason; dunno her attitudes towards spirit animals.

(Anyway, mine's a cyborg stegosaurus, so whatevs.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (hXeKX)

96 A pretty good and fair piece by Lowry, whom I considered to be in with the rest of the #NeverTrump pseudo-cons at NR.

Posted by: DocJ at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (NYS7S)

97
#ButtRomney

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Real Lee at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (KdDCu)

98 The power players of the left have determined it's very important,

To their Silicon Valley paymasters anti-competitive cost-shifting schemes.

Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (FhXTo)

99 >>I love this guy and I got to tell you that I couldn't stand him when he was just a celebrity or reality show host. I'm in NJ and I read all the NYC tabloids in the '80's when Trump's love life was splashed across the front page on a daily basis. I thought he was a big douche.

In fairness, he was a big douche. I don't know what brought about the change, maybe he just wants to fight the Resistance crap, but he is not the same guy he was in the 80s, thank God.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (/tuJf)

100 Romney probably has three wives and requisite children he doesn't want us to know about.

There is a reason, whatever it may be, that keeps these people hysterical over Trump.

Most likely they see prison in their futures if their swamp activities are exposed.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 03:27 PM (03xNs)

101 My guess is it's an important piece in a future they're trying to build. Exactly what it is, I don't know, but I'm guessing it has to do with control of information.
==========
And MONEY.

Those two things are how they make war.

Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 03:27 PM (uoKqA)

102
A FoxNews reporter said that his sources say that there is no Deutsche Bank subpoena.
Mueller 'head fake' ?

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at December 05, 2017 03:27 PM (e8kgV)

103 comments on Lowry's piece are gold

++

I'm sure they are, #butNRO

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at December 05, 2017 03:27 PM (Pd0Uc)

104 liberal-ish Upper Middle Class country club Republicans

Sigh. Add another demographic to the list of people I hate.

The list is so long now that it basically encompasses everyone.

Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (42M22)

105 Now, please tell me you are not anywhere near those horrific fires in Ventura and Ojai. I got friends in those parts and I'm worried.
Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:24 PM (14URa)

I'm about an hour and 15 minutes north. Im concerned about Colorado Alex in exile. He was working in Santa Barbara and commuted to his home in Ojai or santa Paula.

That fire is terrible and terrifying.

Prayers for everyone involved. It's really windy here, and dry also it has not rained at all yet.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (Ri/rl)

106 "Now, please tell me you are not anywhere near those
horrific fires in Ventura and Ojai. I got friends in those parts and I'm
worried.


Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:24 PM (14URa)"
================
I'm in Santa Barbara and it looks bad. We are getting ash here. If your friends are between Santa Paula and the pacific, they need to get out. 40 MPH winds with 70 MPH gusts. Our electrical service is on about 50% since 10:00 last night. It is pretty bad.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (3BFzK)

107 Rolling back some national monuments is a pretty big deal. Past presidents (Obama but also Bush to a lesser extent) really abused their plenary power to create national monuments, which are supposed to be things like houses and statues, to create de facto national parks, which are only supposed to be created by Congress.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (+azJs)

108 The Dems *might* have gotten DACA amnesty - similar to the Kennedy NCLB fiasco - if Schumer and Pelosi hadn't been so d@mn arrogant after meeting with Trump.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (W+vEI)

109 80 NeverTrumpers are the same people who *still* take needless potshots at Sarah Palin years after her relevance.

Their ego is married to being one of the elite, and most decidedly NOT one of the vulgars like Trump, Palin, et. al. Which is to say, they will never change, they will never admit Trump was anything other than a failure and embarrassment.


Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:23 PM (W+vEI)

There's a strong class element to the NeverTrumpers, you're right about that. Trumpism to them stinks too much of people in trailer parks. Not Our Kind, Dear.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (RD7QR)

110 Crap! I*m on the freaking roof of the SUV again?

Posted by: Romney*s Dog at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (gbWkA)

111 I have no problem with PDT giving Bill and Hillary a pardon, IF it includes convicting and sentencing all their little criminal minions to some serious jail time. All of them that deserve jail time
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Can I get a perp walk first?

Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (CZilE)

112 22 Wait, Lowry said this? At NR?

Has anyone sent a nurse to check his temperature? I thought NR was pretty much NeverTrump HQ.

Posted by: Vanceone at December 05, 2017 03:14 PM (HDMVB)




NR is marginally better than the Weakly Standard of Billy Kristol, but not by much.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (ujg0T)

113 I'm about an hour and 15 minutes north. Im concerned about Colorado Alex in exile. He was working in Santa Barbara and commuted to his home in Ojai or santa Paula.

That fire is terrible and terrifying.

Prayers for everyone involved. It's really windy here, and dry also it has not rained at all yet.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (Ri/rl)


IC posted this morning that she(?) was a couple miles from the fire.

Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (Enq6K)

114 88 NR lawyers wanted him to settle and make it go away.

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (LiyEm)

115 Trump needs to start the #ButEducation hashtag.

It is essential to the national security of the United States that it's citizens have a basic education, including the ability to read and write along with simple math.

60+ years of liberal education policies in the inner cities have produced results of 10% to 20% minimally educated children exiting public schools.

Trump needs to send in the military to bulldoze all public schools and administration buildings in the worst performing cities. Sign an executive directive outlawing any local or state governmental agency trying to provide any educational services and eliminate any regulations, guidelines or licensing in the education profession in these areas.

Trump should then sign another executive order to require the state and local authorities to divide the total amount it previously spent on public education by the number of 5 through 18 year old children in the area and distribute this money each year based on each child passing a standardized test.

Nothing the democrats have touched has been such a complete failure as education. Trump could own this and insure democrats never see an inner city vote again.

Posted by: Jwest at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (/roJx)

116 Steve F. Hayes will be the next to bow at the altar of Big Brass Balls.









Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2017 03:23 PM (xqfqx)



I can see almost all of them--except Kristol---eventually come around to Trump. Even Podhoretz.

Maybe not Goldberg.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (7uYFy)
*Hey, I'll welcome them back as long as they leave their smugness at the door and admit they were WRONG!!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (xqfqx)

117 63 - Ajit Pai was an Obama appointee before Trump promoted him, yet now he's a demon in the eyes of liberals.

He was also Verizon's top attorney before Obama appointed him, and Obama appointed him on McConnel's recomendation for the "republican" seat on the FCC. Not the best pedigree.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 03:30 PM (UBzPO)

118 In fairness, he was a big douche.

I remember reading or hearing the theory that the reason he, and other real estate-types, seem to be a-holes is that you have to be one, or at least act the part, to make it in that business.

Tangentially, the conventional wisdom used to be that senators were a bad fit for the Presidency, and Governors were a better fit because of executive vs. legislative experience/skills; the jury was out on CEOs and other executives.

So we now have a new data point, which is nice.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 05, 2017 03:30 PM (hXeKX)

119 I'm in Santa Barbara and it looks bad. We are getting ash here. If your friends are between Santa Paula and the pacific, they need to get out. 40 MPH winds with 70 MPH gusts. Our electrical service is on about 50% since 10:00 last night. It is pretty bad.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (3BFzK)


I was there for the last big SB fire. Jumped the highway and burned all the way to the beach. The fire was moving so fast the best firefighters could do was get out of the way.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:30 PM (+azJs)

120 None of us really knew how awesome he'd be.

Posted by: rd at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (4dz1m)

I did.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:30 PM (14URa)

121 Prayers for everyone in the area of the CA fires.

Please stay safe.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (ZRC8N)

122 Yes, but else have the Romans done for us?

Posted by: josephistan at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (7HtZB)

123 Oh and John Robert's reporting the there was NOT a Mueller inquiry in Trumps Deutch Bank records.



More. Fake. News.

Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (xqfqx)

124 Wait, the But Gorsuch thing is an insult?

Those mewling quims, those shivering trollops, those shrieking ninnies have spent decades, decade after decade, sneering to me "but you have to vote Republican Because Supreme Court." Now they are sneering "ohhh But Gorsuch u r an id10t."

A pox on them. A pox on them all.

*spits*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (mf5HN)

125 Is National Review still a thing?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (QQ+il)

126
In fairness, he was a big douche. I don't know what brought about the change, maybe he just wants to fight the Resistance crap, but he is not the same guy he was in the 80s, thank God.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (/tuJf)


Compared to what the other very wealthy New York and L.A elites were doing in the 80's Trump seems antics seemed tame

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (lKyWE)

127 You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat.

Posted by: Pink Floyd. at December 05, 2017 03:21 PM (hXeKX)

I swore they sung, You can't have your pudding if you don't Beat your meat!

Posted by: Misheard Lyrics at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (4dz1m)

128 I can see almost all of them--except Kristol---eventually come around to Trump. Even Podhoretz.

Maybe not Goldberg.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (7uYFy)
*Hey, I'll welcome them back as long as they leave their smugness at the door and admit they were WRONG!!!!
Posted by: dananjcon



Fuck 'em. At this point? Their intellect is suspect. They should have known better.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (vVRlw)

129 but he is not the same guy he was in the 80s, thank God

+++

I think he is the same guy, only the culture has changed so damned much. Also, the MSM enjoyed attacking him then, too, so you never saw any of this.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at December 05, 2017 03:32 PM (Pd0Uc)

130 I can see almost all of them--except Kristol---eventually come around to Trump. Even Podhoretz.

Maybe not Goldberg.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (7uYFy)


Hahahaha. Williamson will never, ever, ever have anything nice to say about Trump.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:32 PM (+azJs)

131 And AtC, the HQ's poet laureate, arrives!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:32 PM (ZRC8N)

132 Nevertrumpers are larpers without the fun stuff like swords or slutty outfits. They've been larping as "token conservative" in their peer group for decades, but PDT has made their friends so crazy that the only way they get invited to the cons anymore is by larping as "resistance conservative."

Posted by: not the mama at December 05, 2017 03:32 PM (mx7rN)

133 120 None of us really knew how awesome he'd be.

Posted by: rd at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (4dz1m)

I did.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:30 PM (14URa)

-----------------------

So did I.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 03:32 PM (03xNs)

134 So we now have a new data point, which is nice.
=========
No it isn't -- Bob Iger is going to run.

Kamala Harris is a head fake.

Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 03:32 PM (6AS4D)

135 NeverTrumpers seem to care less about the conservative movement's health than their status in the pecking order within the conservative movement.


Yep. The Chardonnay and yacht club crowd, and their groupies.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 03:32 PM (NWiLs)

136
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (3BFzK)

I was there for the last big SB fire. Jumped the highway and burned all the way to the beach. The fire was moving so fast the best firefighters could do was get out of the way.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:30 PM (+azJs)

Which one? Painted Cave?

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (Ri/rl)

137 I swore they sung, You can't have your pudding if you don't Beat your meat!

'Scuse me while I kiss this guy.

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (hXeKX)

138 Prayers for everyone involved. It's really windy here, and dry also it has not rained at all yet.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (Ri/rl)
I'm listening to KOGO and it sounds like the winds are gonna get a lot worse. Prayers up for Jukin and IC and everyone in the whole area. They shut the I-5 in Santa Clarita, got some people up there who are special to me, too. I've seen wildfires up close and it's not something you ever forget.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (14URa)

139 nevertrumpers only care about the gravy train

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (hMwEB)

140 Ever been behind a semi truck on the interstate doing 80 hauling livestock and one of the animals lets loose with poo? I swear that is what I am going to do the next time I*m in my kennel on the top of that damn SUV.

Posted by: Romney*s Dog at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (gbWkA)

141 I'm sure they are, #butNRO
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at December 05, 2017 03:27 PM (Pd0Uc)

They are dead to me. They went against the family. Never go against the family.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (J70i0)

142 Back to gift wrapping......uuuugggghhhh.

Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (Enq6K)

143 i read this shortly after it was published and was mildly surprised.

too bad rich
i remember your over the top displays of nevertrump more.

get your head on straight and be consistent and i may reconsider the whole NR thing.

Posted by: concrete girl at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (kCbAY)

144 I have to venture out and do some Christmas shopping that I can't do online.

Kill me now.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (ZRC8N)

145 Gorsuch is more than the NeverTrumper class have delivered to us in more than many a moon.

And it's the NeverTrumpers who would have installed Hillary.

That alone is the biggest achievement Trump could have managed-- making sure Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (oVJmc)

146 There's a strong class element to the NeverTrumpers, you're right about that. Trumpism to them stinks too much of people in trailer parks. Not Our Kind, Dear.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 03:29 PM (RD7QR)

Right. But it's not so much Trump--or Palin--who they don't like: It's the people who VOTED for them.
It's definitely a class thing. And a caste thing.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (7uYFy)

147 You know how we said that we wanted someone who would run as a moderate (you shut your whore mouths with facts about how Trump won you'll ruin things for me) but govern as a conservative?

Did you ever guess that person would be Trump?

*stares mournfully into the distance*

*coyote howl*

*eagle shriek*

Also I need a new nic. Hmmmm.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (mf5HN)

148
In fairness, he was a big douche. I don't know what brought about the change, maybe he just wants to fight the Resistance crap, but he is not the same guy he was in the 80s, thank God.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:26 PM (/tuJf)


Compared to what the other very wealthy New York and L.A elites were doing in the 80's Trump seems antics seemed tame
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (lKyWE)

---------

President Trumpis governing with mainstream Republican Democrat centrist views circa 1950.

THAT is how far we have fallen.

Posted by: rd at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (4dz1m)

149 I was there for the last big SB fire. Jumped the
highway and burned all the way to the beach. The fire was moving so
fast the best firefighters could do was get out of the way.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:30 PM (+azJs)

===========
Next time we need to get together and hoist a few.

Yeah that was a bad one. but we just had one in July that went from Cachuma Lake (over the coastal mountains) and almost made it to the beach. The down canyon winds to the ocean are a fireman's nightmare.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (3BFzK)

150 But Felonia Von Pantsuit

Posted by: Phildirt at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (F0l0a)

151 125 Is National Review still a thing?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (QQ+il)


They're like that last ember in the fireplace that refuses to go out.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (r9UYA)

152 Romney the dog torturer ... should let his sleeping dogs lie. So should the other spoiled NeverTrumpers that pose as conservatives.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2017 03:18 PM (/aIFg)


I love how these blow dried turds like to call themselves "conservative" when they considered the Tea Party types a bunch of hooligans and parvenus not allowed on their precious jerkoff cruises. Mutt Rombley was treated much more graciously by DJT than that latter day fuck deserved.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (y7DUB)

153 Brian Ross will no longer be allowed to cover Trump.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (4ErVI)

154 Junkin and IC,

I didn't know we were all neighbors.

Please everyone stay safe.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (Ri/rl)

155 Ever been behind a semi truck on the interstate doing 80 hauling livestock and one of the animals lets loose with poo? I swear that is what I am going to do the next time I*m in my kennel on the top of that damn SUV.
Posted by: Romney*s Dog at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (gbWkA)

Wouldn't you poop on the way to the slaughterhouse?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (7uYFy)

156 Bob Iger? Puh-lease. Egg McMuffin would get more votes than he could. And John Kasich could outpoll both of them put together, he might could even get 2% of the vote this time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (k1TUh)

157 No it isn't -- Bob Iger is going to run.

Kamala Harris is a head fake.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 03:32 PM (6AS4D)

Unless he is running against all white guys, he doesn't stand a chance in the Dem primary. Hillary proved that a non-POC can't motivate the Dem coalition of the fringes.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (J70i0)

158
I have to venture out and do some Christmas shopping that I can't do online.
Kill me now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (ZRC8N)


Stay away from Target it's full of pervs

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (lKyWE)

159 Have you guys seen the compilation of Trump insults? It's priceless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-n3AMxdgsY

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (YqDXo)
.........

"You're a tough guy Jeb."

lol

Posted by: wth at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (2WITp)

160 Brian Ross will no longer be allowed to cover Trump.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (4ErVI)

"Cover" like with a blanket?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (7uYFy)

161 >>I think he is the same guy, only the culture has changed so damned much. Also, the MSM enjoyed attacking him then, too, so you never saw any of this.

But he isn't. He was a typical NYC, abortion supporting, northeast liberal. He did a 180 on a number of issues and frankly I didn't believe him when he first started to run. I mean he was still hacking Romney for being to mean regarding illegals just a few months before he started his run.

I'm still not sure he believes a lot of this stuff in his heart but I also don't care as long as he keeps fighting for the things I want it's all good.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (/tuJf)

162 I am admiring President Trump with this Twitter thing, didn't like it at first but seeing Leftists heads explode at every line its actually very enjoyable

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (aC6Sd)

163 Yeah that was a bad one. but we just had one in July that went from Cachuma Lake (over the coastal mountains) and almost made it to the beach. The down canyon winds to the ocean are a fireman's nightmare.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (3BFzK)

That was bad, I could see it from my side of the mountain range.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (Ri/rl)

164 I've seen wildfires up close and it's not something you ever forget.


Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (14URa)


We lived in San Bernardino when I was a child and it was just a small town. I remember the mountains being on fire every year, and how I could see the fires through my bedroom window at night.


Scared me to death and gave me nightmares.

Stay safe, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (ZRC8N)

165 Romney says we need to elect a Democrat instead of Moore. Romney apparently did a full investigation and decreed Moore guilty of even proven lies.


In fairness, most of Mitt's Spirit Wives are over 19.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (QQ+il)

166 So we now have a new data point, which is nice.
=========
No it isn't -- Bob Iger is going to run.


Ehhh, I'm thinking the Pervnado will taint him at some point.

And even if it doesn't, I doubt he'd have a better chance than any other actual Democrat.

They'd need a centrist, moderate type, like Bill Clinton triangulated himself to appear. I don't think there are any left. Their habitats are gone.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (hXeKX)

167 >>Did you ever guess that person would be Trump?




Never in a million years!
Kudos to Peaches for seeing this early on

Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (W+vEI)

168 136
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:28 PM (3BFzK)

I was there for the last big SB fire. Jumped the highway and burned all the way to the beach. The fire was moving so fast the best firefighters could do was get out of the way.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:30 PM (+azJs)

Which one? Painted Cave?
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (Ri/rl)


Yep. Entire neighborhoods went up in flames and I ended up spending the night at the university because my house was on the other side.

On the plus side a videotape I really didn't want to exist stopped existing that night.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (+azJs)

169 Ross being banned on reporting Trump is at Legal Insurrection

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (aC6Sd)

170 124 Wait, the But Gorsuch thing is an insult?

Those mewling quims, those shivering trollops, those shrieking ninnies have spent decades, decade after decade, sneering to me "but you have to vote Republican Because Supreme Court." Now they are sneering "ohhh But Gorsuch u r an id10t."

A pox on them. A pox on them all.

*spits*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 05, 2017 03:31 PM (mf5HN)

That was near-Shakespearean. I got a half-chub.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (NWiLs)

171 including the ability to read and write along with simple math.
=========

Pfffft. They start teaching that stuff, where's the time to teach the virtues of assfucking?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (vg8iE)

172 144 I have to venture out and do some Christmas shopping that I can't do online.

Kill me now.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (ZRC8N)

---

I purposefully shop late in the evening.

Less crowds, quiet stores, and NO SCREAMING BRATS!

Posted by: rd at December 05, 2017 03:37 PM (4dz1m)

173 I'm probably late to the party, but Hyde from That 70's Show is the latest exposed by Gropemaggeddon.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:37 PM (72PAC)

174 Also I need a new nic. Hmmmm

+++

Nomivore

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at December 05, 2017 03:38 PM (Pd0Uc)

175 Some good friends parent's house was the only house to survive the Painted Cave fire. Then about 15 years later another fire came through and it was the only one burned to the ground. The fire must flow here. It sucks.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:38 PM (3BFzK)

176 But he isn't. He was a typical NYC, abortion supporting, northeast liberal. He did a 180 on a number of issues and frankly I didn't believe him when he first started to run. I mean he was still hacking Romney for being to mean regarding illegals just a few months before he started his run.

I'm still not sure he believes a lot of this stuff in his heart but I also don't care as long as he keeps fighting for the things I want it's all good.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (/tuJf)




Not sure what caused or when Trump has his Road To Damascus moment (or Manhattan, as the case may be), but certainly his hysterical opposition can only push The Donald further rightward.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 05, 2017 03:38 PM (ujg0T)

177 Oh and John Robert's reporting the there was NOT a Mueller inquiry in Trumps Deutch Bank records.


More. Fake. News.



I think it was a canary trap.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (QQ+il)

178 173 I'm probably late to the party, but Hyde from That 70's Show is the latest exposed by Gropemaggeddon.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:37 PM (72PAC)


It's quite a bit more serious than that. Four women are accusing him of rape.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (+azJs)

179 I'm listening to KOGO and it sounds like the winds are gonna get a lot worse. Prayers up for Jukin and IC and everyone in the whole area. They shut the I-5 in Santa Clarita, got some people up there who are special to me, too. I've seen wildfires up close and it's not something you ever forget.
Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:33 PM (14URa)

The winds aren't supposed to let up until Wednesday.

Prayers for your loved ones. I'm not sure if it's the same fire or another one but I believe part of the 5 is shut down and the exit to Magic Mountain is closed. Also parts of the 126 are closed.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (Ri/rl)

180 I'm still not sure he believes a lot of this stuff in his heart but I also don't care as long as he keeps fighting for the things I want it's all good.

Yeah, I don't really care what these political jackwagons thinks, I'm interested in what they say, but I'm more concerned with what they do.

They could be the worst people in their own minds but behave the right way, and that's all I want.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (hXeKX)

181 Pfffft. They start teaching that stuff, where's the time to teach the virtues of assfucking?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (vg8iE)



If only people would take my sage advice on the lube, those classes wouldn't be necessary.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

182 Did you ever guess that person would be Trump?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (mf5HN)

Did you ever think Trump would be the guy to actually....hold on....follow the law and rules?

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (J70i0)

183 I purposefully shop late in the evening.



Less crowds, quiet stores, and NO SCREAMING BRATS!

Posted by: rd at December 05, 2017 03:37 PM (4dz1m)


But that's when the yutes come out to carjack and rob. Two elderly women were robbed/carjacked yesterday at one of the largest malls, by a 16 y.o. thuglet.


I stopped at my local Publix last night, and some elderly $%#@* managed to scratch the passenger side of my newish car with a damned shopping cart.

grrrrrrrr

Well, off I go to finish up some shopping. Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (ZRC8N)

184 Never in a million years!
Kudos to Peaches for seeing this early on


Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (W+vEI)
I knew it the second he came off the escalator and declared. I *knew* he would win. I think I still have the texts from my buddy from election night when it became clear he would win. He was gobsmacked. Actually voted green party or some shit, the dumbass (he's my brutha and a former Marine but, jeez).

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (14URa)

185 Tony Montana said it all about the #NeverTrump "conservatives"

"People don't change. They just reveal who the fuck they really are."

Posted by: kbdabear at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (eh0Va)

186 178 173 I'm probably late to the party, but Hyde from That 70's Show is the latest exposed by Gropemaggeddon.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:37 PM (72PAC)

It's quite a bit more serious than that. Four women are accusing him of rape.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (+azJs)

Damn, really? Wonder if it goes back as far the show.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (72PAC)

187 I'm still not sure he believes a lot of this stuff in his heart but I also don't care as long as he keeps fighting for the things I want it's all good.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (/tuJf)

Maybe. But he's a guy who didn't serve in the military who reveres the troops and a guy who probably isn't that religious who respects those with Faith. In other words, he's right on the important things. He represents the people who admire those things.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (7uYFy)

188 Never in a million years!
Kudos to Peaches for seeing this early on

Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (W+vEI)


To bastardize an Augustus McCray quote: we place our hopes in some strange baskets.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (y7DUB)

189 What's the opposite of doing brackets for the NCAA tournament?
---------------------
Calling Goodell a fairy every so often.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (YV+SU)

190 173 Who DOESN'T want to grope Mila Kunis...

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (LiyEm)

191 What's the opposite of doing brackets for the NCAA tournament?
Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 03:20 PM (nBr1j)

Maybe ask Roger Goodell?

Posted by: random lurker commenter at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (dab45)

192 >>They could be the worst people in their own minds but behave the right way, and that's all I want.

What was that Friedman quote, something about making it profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (/tuJf)

193 I'm probably late to the party, but Hyde from That 70's Show is the latest exposed by Gropemaggeddon.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:37 P
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (+azJs)

Yes, but the things he's accused of doing were SOP back in the '70's, right??

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:41 PM (7uYFy)

194 190 173 Who DOESN'T want to grope Mila Kunis...
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (LiyEm)

Pretty sure I'm the only one in Wisconsin who didn't...

Posted by: Eric Foreman at December 05, 2017 03:41 PM (72PAC)

195 175 Some good friends parent's house was the only house to survive the Painted Cave fire. Then about 15 years later another fire came through and it was the only one burned to the ground. The fire must flow here. It sucks.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:38 PM (3BFzK)

Sundowners. My friends parents house burned down in the painted cave fire. They live on the riviera now, near the mission.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:41 PM (Ri/rl)

196 "The winds aren't supposed to let up until Wednesday.
"

===========

CG, the report today was that the worst of the winds will be on Thursday night. IIRC a couple years ago a fire went to the Pacific near Faria beach. Looks like that is what is going to happen again. The sky and sunlight is deep orange here.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:41 PM (3BFzK)

197 Yes, but the things he's accused of doing were SOP back in the '70's, right??


Nice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 03:41 PM (QQ+il)

198 178 173 I'm probably late to the party, but Hyde from That 70's Show is the latest exposed by Gropemaggeddon.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:37 PM (72PAC)



It's quite a bit more serious than that. Four women are accusing him of rape.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (+azJs)

I always had a creepy vibe for his character, but... damn, I wasn't thinking that creepy

Posted by: DocJ at December 05, 2017 03:42 PM (NYS7S)

199 So far no fires down by me in the OC, stay safe up there. The winds tend to get worse at sundown, so keep Alert and don't hesitate to evacuate.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 05, 2017 03:42 PM (6Ll1u)

200 >>> Romney says we need to elect a Democrat instead


trump didn't give him a job
that's what this is about

Posted by: concrete girl at December 05, 2017 03:42 PM (kCbAY)

201 911, then the 180 by the Dems and GOPe after a little Patriotic Theater, then Bush's Nonsense, and then Trump was on The WarPath.

Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 03:42 PM (yP91S)

202 194 Well yeah but that Donna was pretty hawt too...

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:42 PM (LiyEm)

203 Monday:
but I'm guessing it has to do with control of information.
==========
And MONEY.

Those two things are how they make war.

Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 03:27 PM (uoKqA)
***********************



A USAF U-2 (they shot down Gary before most here were born) landing at Osan USAFB, Pyeongtaek, South Korea.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yddshjjq

Posted by: gNewt at December 05, 2017 03:42 PM (yHwQE)

204 Senate Altered Tax Reform to Help Illegal Aliens Claim Child Tax Credit -BB

Please clap.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 05, 2017 03:43 PM (r9UYA)

205 but the things he's accused of doing were SOP back in the '70's, right??

+++
Fucking method actors

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at December 05, 2017 03:43 PM (Pd0Uc)

206 My question is where does National Review go now? They are on record being against nationalism and nations. They find the base of Republican party icky and seem to be at home in either DC or West Manhattan. Odd eggs these fancy fappers.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 03:43 PM (YV+SU)

207 I actually had a experience fighting wild fires when I was in the USAF at Lowry AFB. Somehow a lot of us joined in and volunteered to go up in the foot hills north of Denver ( didn't know it at first but we were not allowed to go) and fought fires from Sat afternoon to Sunday evening straight. They are very frightning up close, saw a whole tree line burst in flames all at once, and know a pumper truck can't pump water a few hundred feet above the truck even if yoj hump hoses up there.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2017 03:43 PM (aC6Sd)

208
Trump is where he is through his own doing, not their's.

Further, and possibly more importantly, he threatens the gravy train.

It's Existential. They can't have him succeed.
---

Hence my earlier comment, "not of the body."

Plus... they are convinced they are The Special Ruling Class and a random person definitely cannot do their job.

Guess what?

Not only can a random person do their job, if that random person is a successful businessman, well, he can do their job a hell of a lot better than they can.

/"I Love You Donnie Two Scoops!!!!!"

Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:43 PM (aT+Bx)

209 Kind of sad that Laura Prepon became just another blond....

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:43 PM (LiyEm)

210 Yeah, I don't really care what these political jackwagons thinks, I'm interested in what they say, but I'm more concerned with what they do.

Somebody I respect said something along the lines "It's less important who you elect than that you set up conditions such that they do what you want when they're in office.". Can't remember who it was, though.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (+azJs)

211 trump didn't give him a job
that's what this is about
Posted by: concrete girl at December 05, 2017 03:42 PM (kCbAY)

Didn't his grandaughter get a job with the RNC? Or am I mistaken?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (7uYFy)

212 "Sundowners. My friends parents house burned down in the painted cave fire. They live on the riviera now, near the mission."

I guess not a good time to play Elton John, "Burn down the Mission"?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (k1TUh)

213 Also I need a new nic. Hmmmm.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 05, 2017 03:34 PM (mf5HN)

Alex the chick is my spirit animal.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (Ri/rl)

From your lips to The Hoard's ears

Posted by: kbdabear at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (eh0Va)

214 173
I'm probably late to the party, but Hyde from That 70's Show is the latest exposed by Gropemaggeddon.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:37 PM (72PAC)

This case is a bit different in that he supposedly used the Scientology Mafia to silence/intimidate the accusers.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (UBzPO)

215 alexthechick: "Did you ever guess that person would be Trump?"

Yes and no. The instant he introduced himself as presidential candidate with the platform of reducing illegal immigration and "a wall", I knew he had a shot. He was the only one willing to address elephants in rooms. That was when I knew he could win. When the rest of the field failed to keep up, that's when I knew he would win.

The people chose wisely. And the DNC and GOP didn't exactly help themselves as institutions in endearing themselves to the voters. Ironically, Trump was the independent choice. Who could have possibly predicted that a guy with billions of dollars and an independence streak a mile long could win a political race? I mean besides everyone?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (H8S+R)

216 Romney says we need to elect a Democrat instead





trump didn't give him a job

that's what this is about

Posted by: concrete girl at December 05, 2017 03:42 PM (kCbAY)
Somebody need to squish that freakin' cockroach and it sounds like Trump is putting some energy into it. And, btw, I give a standing ovation to him for cutting back those fuckin' "national monuments." That was epic. And I doubt very much that he's done yet.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (14URa)

217 At the end of the article Lowery wants to stop hearing the #butGorsach thing because he is tired of hearing it and because he admits in the article that the Gorsach appointment was a good thing for the country.

"Shut up! Shut up! Shut UP!" he said repeatedly.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Real Lee at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (KdDCu)

218 63 I'd like to add #butnetneutrality to the list. It's hard to find any factual info on the whole net neutrality debate, because the libtards supporting it have filled the internet with false information. Ajit Pai was an Obama appointee before Trump promoted him, yet now he's a demon in the eyes of liberals. Why is Net Neutrality so important to them? I haven't seen a single case where Net Neutrality is needed or would make a difference. Yet. Will it be needed in the future? Hard to say, but we've functioned for 20 years without it. That being said, I think the fact that they're so fired up about it without any examples of why it's so important tells me that there's something else to it that we're not currently aware of. The power players of the left have determined it's very important, and they're telling their minions to make a lot of noise in an attempt to save it. My guess is it's an important piece in a future they're trying to build. Exactly what it is, I don't know, but I'm guessing it has to do with control of information.

The Left wants POWER and CONTROL, and the Internet, 1969-2015 terrifies them to no end. A lot of my friends are shrieking hysterically about the end of Net Neutrality and the fastest way to piss them off is to ask "What's wrong with going back to the way things were? The Internet worked then, didn't it?" Cue screams, tantrums, and running around shrieking "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!"

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (u0f7+)

219 169 Ross being banned on reporting Trump is at Legal Insurrection

=========

What about all of the money people lost on the stock market when it tanked

Posted by: E.T. at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (P1GJy)

220 >>Not sure what caused or when Trump has his Road To Damascus moment (or
Manhattan, as the case may be), but certainly his hysterical opposition
can only push The Donald further rightward.




Trump had an interesting moment at the Al Smith dinner the night after the 3rd debate. Before he got down to the jokes he put everyone there to shame by telling them how he's known them for decades, they've asked him for assistance (donations, etc.), they've welcomed him into their homes and families, only to stab him in the back the moment he announced his run for the GOP nomination. Some here have noted how Trump likes to get revenge. I think we're seeing it now, and for the next 3-7 more years, as people like Schumer, whom he's known for many years, attempt to play him like a RINO Bush. They will not be pleased when he's not a doormat.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (W+vEI)

221 But Gorsuch ... and Other Excellent Judicial Picks ... and a Tax Cut ... and Major Deregulatory Actions ... and Immigration Enforcement ... and the End of the Individual Mandate ... and a Roll Back of the HHS Mandate ...

===
Coming soon or here already...

#ButTravelBan
#ButGDP
#ButJerusalem
#ButTheWall
#ButNoClimateTreaty
#ButNoMOreVisaLottery

NeverTrumpers need to get their silly heads out of their asses..or just leave it there, no dif

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (QC/4S)

222 Didn't his grandaughter get a job with the RNC? Or am I mistaken?
---

Pretty sure a Romney is the head of the Michigan GOP. Or was in the recent past.

Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (aT+Bx)

223 190
173 Who DOESN'T want to grope Mila Kunis...
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (LiyEm)

People who have seen her in person?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (UBzPO)

224 If Trump had goven Romney a job he would have resigned over an "outrage" of the day within a few days.

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (LiyEm)

225 He was also Verizon's top attorney before Obama appointed him, and Obama
appointed him on McConnel's recomendation for the "republican" seat on
the FCC. Not the best pedigree.


Since NN is just cover for Netflix screwing Verizon to charge all its customers for what just the TV streamers use you're wrong AGAIN.

Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (FhXTo)

226 CG, the report today was that the worst of the winds will be on Thursday night. IIRC a couple years ago a fire went to the Pacific near Faria beach. Looks like that is what is going to happen again. The sky and sunlight is deep orange here.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:41 PM (3BFzK)

I watched KSBY morning news, they said strong winds through Wednesday. I'm not surprised they're wrong.
I'm in the Santa Ynez Valley, it wasn't that windy here yesterday but I wasn't outside last night because it was cold. It's a little breezy.

Whenever it's dry and windy I'm suspicious of firebugs.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (Ri/rl)

227 Was Hyde the stonerish character?

Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 03:46 PM (nBr1j)

228 and a 503 from the NR page now.

Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2017 03:46 PM (FhXTo)

229 What was that Friedman quote, something about making it profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.

That's the one, yeah. Though maaaybethis is a rare case of someone doing the right thing because f this, f that, f this thing in particular.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 05, 2017 03:47 PM (hXeKX)

230 More Trump achievements:

-Reversing giant land grabs by Obama administration in Utah
-Rolling back Michelle Obama era school lunch requirements
-Totally discrediting CNN as a news organization
-Ban on immigration from nations most commonly fomenting terrorism
-Nearly 30% increase in mining industry
-Official designation of North Korea as a state terrorism sponsor
-Official designation of Antifa as terrorist organization
-Designated National Day of Victims of Communism on the 100th anniversary of the Communist revolution in Russia
-Department of Agriculture issued a guidance Nov. 6 that ensures Christians who opposed same-sex marriage would not be discriminated against for their beliefs.
-Multiple corporations either staying in the USA or moving back
-scientists who receive EPA grants banned from serving on the agency’s independent advisory boards.
-Executive order allowing health insurance organizations to form crossing state lines, and ignoring obamacare mandates
-US leaves UNESCO
-Rollback effectively eliminating the Clean Air act and 30 regulations at the EPA
-Approved funding for 10,000 new border agents
-Shut down the Climate Change advisory board at the NOAA
-Household wealth reached a record high of $1.7 trillion in the second quarter
-Manufacturing index the highest since 1983
-Signed VA reform and moved ahead on punishment for VA admins and workers
-Removed Obama order that allowed states to waive work requirements for welfare
-Terminated Operation Choke Point which was being used to shut down businesses the Obama administration disliked
-Increased oil and gas development approvals on federal lands
-Obliterated IS, freeing Syria from their grip
-Executive order for political employees implementing a five-year ban on lobbying and a lifetime ban on lobbying for foreign countries.
-DOJ charged more than 400 doctors for prescribing unnecessary or excessive opiods
-Dakota oil pipeline approved
-Beef exports to China allowed, been banned since 2003.
-Ending the EPA's vast and unconstitutional expansion of water rights regulation
-Increased allied contributions to NATO by $10,000,000,000
-Ended DAPA amnesty program
-Ended Mexico City policy that had military bases providing free abortions in foreign countries
-Over 6,000 arrests of MS-13 gang criminals in just the first 6 months alone
-Justice Department reevaluating Obama-era rules and guidelines concerning federal interference with state and local law enforcement
-$32 million shifted from abortion and "one child" policy supporting UN Population Fund to US international development fund
-Ordered an audit of all executive branch agencies for waste and misuse of funds
-Trump continues policy of simply not filling vacancies in federal positions he deems unnecessary
-Reversed Obama era "bathroom policy"
-Eliminated Obama last minute "mental competency" limits on gun ownership by senior citizens
-Withdrew from TPP
-The DOJ resumed the criminal prosecution of first-time illegal border crossers after it had been stopped by the Obama administration.

Lots more. I didn't list most of the economic factors because most of them are either long term or difficult to directly trace to Trump's administration.

While Trump releases squirrels to distract the press, lots of stuff is getting done behind the scenes. Good stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 03:47 PM (39g3+)

231 Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosi

I want every single California Republican to understand this. Your ideology doesn't come first. Your party doesn't come first. Te PEOPLE come first. If you fail to recognize that, you don't belong here.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at December 05, 2017 03:47 PM (e8kgV)

232 >>Somebody I respect said something along the lines "It's less important who you elect than that you set up conditions such that they do what you want when they're in office.". Can't remember who it was, though.

I said it you jack wagon! Doesn't anybody around here read the comments?

Posted by: Uncle Milt at December 05, 2017 03:47 PM (/tuJf)

233 227 Yeah with glasses and 'fro

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:47 PM (LiyEm)

234 What about all of the money people lost on the stock market when it tanked
Posted by: E.T. at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (P1GJy)


It will never recover, I tell ya.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at December 05, 2017 03:47 PM (+azJs)

235 232 >>Somebody I respect said something along the lines "It's less important who you elect than that you set up conditions such that they do what you want when they're in office.". Can't remember who it was, though.

I said it you jack wagon! Doesn't anybody around here read the comments?
Posted by: Uncle Milt at December 05, 2017 03:47 PM (/tuJf)


Yeah, but what's the quote?

Posted by: Paul Krugman at December 05, 2017 03:48 PM (+azJs)

236 Romney's niece is chair of the RNC. Ronna Romney McDaniel

Posted by: stace at December 05, 2017 03:48 PM (S0w2h)

237 "You're a tough guy Jeb."

lol
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (2WITp)


That's my favorite, too. I watched that part several times, and laughed my ass off every time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:48 PM (YqDXo)

238 No winds here now or last night. We lost power for 5 hours at 10 last night and have it go on and off 5-6 times today. I think a bunch of high voltage towers are in the fire area.

FBN now says Edison International is 15% down today.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:49 PM (3BFzK)

239 >>Yeah, but what's the quote?

Make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.

Posted by: Uncle Milt at December 05, 2017 03:49 PM (/tuJf)

240 Romney blew a winnable race in 2012, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, fucked up a wet dream.

Why should I listen to anything political that fool says?

Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 03:50 PM (yP91S)

241 This case is a bit different in that he supposedly used the Scientology Mafia to silence/intimidate the accusers.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (UBzPO)


Ugh, fry him 'til his hair unfrizzes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2017 03:50 PM (y7DUB)

242 237 "You're a tough guy Jeb."

lol
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2017 03:35 PM (2WITp)

That's my favorite, too. I watched that part several times, and laughed my ass off every time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2017 03:48 PM (YqDXo)


It's hard to imagine Jeb was the one they groomed for high political office.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:50 PM (+azJs)

243
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:41 PM (3BFzK)

Jukin, where you at? You don't have to say but I had friends who lived just below Lake Casitas and I used to fly into Santa Paula all the time from LA (in a volkswagen with wings, it was wonderful). Prayers up for all the good folks in the fire areas. I lived in Sierra Madre years ago when that burned and we were a mile from the mountain but we could feel the heat on our faces from the fires. Fire is not something to trifle with.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:50 PM (14URa)

244 Doesn't anybody around here read the comments?


You're new here, eh?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Real Lee at December 05, 2017 03:50 PM (KdDCu)

245 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEVI3bmN8TI

Posted by: Uncle Milt at December 05, 2017 03:50 PM (/tuJf)

246 Lowry should stick his fingers in his ears like a 6yr old and sing LaLaLaLa when someone mentions Gorsuch

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2017 03:50 PM (aC6Sd)

247 Saturday night live skit idea. Predators vs aliens. Grits vs illegal aliens.

Posted by: Knaws at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (UkjGk)

248 I opposed Trump as candidate in the primaries (love me some Ted Cruz) but Trump as president won me over fairly early on.

I think it's personal with Bill Kristol; i mean, I think Kristol absolutely hates Trump personally, as a man. I don't know if the two have ever met or even shared space but Kristol acts for all in the world like Trump keyed his car or hit on his girl at the prom. Whatever it is, Kristol will never get over it.

Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (raGQi)

249 So Reuters puts-out a story that Mueller's Minions got DB records from PDJT and his family. And the lefty progtards ran with that all day.

Aaaaaaaaand... fake news

Even pulled from CNN

Their tears are delicious

Posted by: DocJ at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (NYS7S)

250 Somebody need to squish that freakin' cockroach and it sounds like Trump is putting some energy into it. And, btw, I give a standing ovation to him for cutting back those fuckin' "national monuments." That was epic. And I doubt very much that he's done yet.
Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (14URa)



I was thrilled with that and I'm an actual conservationist.

The US government owns, what, 90% of Nevada? If I'm wrong out that, it's only by about 5%.

There's no reason that those areas cannot be opened for grazing and mining. Hell, I'm all in on auctioning off the land.

Amazon needs a second American HQ? Fine. Let Bezos buy up 20 square miles of Nevada wastelands and set up Bezosland.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

251 Some here have noted how Trump likes to get revenge. I think we're
seeing it now, and for the next 3-7 more years, as people like Schumer,
whom he's known for many years, attempt to play him like a RINO Bush.
They will not be pleased when he's not a doormat.
---

If true, this would be awesome.

Now.. an anecdote. During the Marla Maples era, I almost physically walked into Trump on the street in front of one of his properties. He is VERY tall, and didn't seem to be in the best mood that night. Which made him seem incredibly intimidating. And I'm pretty used to intimidating tall men.

I have no doubt that his personality completely overwhelms some of them in DC. Which is why they're screaming impeachment every day.

/Donnie Two Scoops is veeeery scaaaaary.

Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (aT+Bx)

252 You know how we said that we wanted someone who would run as a moderate (you shut your whore mouths with facts about how Trump won you'll ruin things for me) but govern as a conservative?

Trump was a New York friend of Oprah who supported abortion, socialized medicine, and homosexual marriage. He's governing like Ronald Reagan's more conservative brother.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (39g3+)

253 And as to ABC's Brian Ross I suppose there could be a class action lawsuit there somewhere

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (aC6Sd)

254 Romney went to traitor mode immediately after he lost the election. We dodged a bullet with him losing.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (J70i0)

255 If I may, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you, a group of my most loyal supporters, of my belief that Trump "exploited anger, grievance, xenophobia and racial division".

Thank you.

Posted by: zomboid Meg Whitman at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (ctuyM)

256 181 Pfffft. They start teaching that stuff, where's the time to teach the virtues of assfucking?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 05, 2017 03:36 PM (vg8iE)


If only people would take my sage advice on the lube, those classes wouldn't be necessary.
Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

Maybe you should evangelize on this subject, My Queen. Maybe a YouTube video. With details.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 03:52 PM (RD7QR)

257 Romney and McCain failed. They didn't connect with the base, they didn't have the passion for true conservatism. They didn't win.

They and their cheerleaders despise Trump for winning. This non-politician, brash talking New Yorker who broke every "polite" Republicans rules.

Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2017 03:52 PM (oiNtH)

258 Thought he was the class buffoon but in every debate he stepped up and took it to them whereas my favorite, Cruz, didn't so much.

Before it was over it was obvious that only Trump had potential to straighten things out.

And he's doing it.
Thank you, Mr. President

Posted by: Break more china at December 05, 2017 03:52 PM (yHwQE)

259 I don't think Mitt Rombley is grousing about a job.

He wouldn't take a job from Trump.

Not our kind of people, dear. Not top drawer.

I think that Rich at NRO started flaggin a bit in his #nevertrump a few weeks ago, a good thing happened, NRniks harrumphed, and Rich gave them the old if Trump told you NOT to jump off a bridge...

I don't know how many anti-Trumpers honestly believed that Trump was Hillary's stalking horse (so elect Hillary!) or that he would lose so badly that he whould take down the GOP and the courts for a generation, but by this point, some truth should start becoming evident.

Those who are still #nevertrump were never actually conservative to begin with.

Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 03:53 PM (jHrzU)

260 #ButtGore

Posted by: Billy goat affected by Climate Change at December 05, 2017 03:53 PM (/qEW2)

261 It's hard to imagine Jeb was the one they groomed for high political office.
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Jeb as a powerful politician is the equivalent of putting pictures of cartoon baby bunnies on your warships.


Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:53 PM (aT+Bx)

262 254 Romney went to traitor mode immediately after he lost the election. We dodged a bullet with him losing.
Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (J70i0)

He had President Stuttering Imbecile on his heels but immediately let up. Wonder why.

Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (nBr1j)

263 Our relative humidity is 9% here right now, had barely any wind yesterday. But it's blowing today hard.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (6Ll1u)

264 What was that Friedman quote, something about making it profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (/tuJf)

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If you go back and look at Trump's inauguration and he starts talking about the 'forgotten man' with the Bush/Clinton/Deep State swamp behind him you will see his true character.

It was visceral and sincere. He KNOWs the scum that the swamp is.

I can see some still don't understand Trump and that's good because it allows him to do the things we want him to do.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (03xNs)

265
#ButtBrianRoss will not cover President Trump in the future.

-- ABC News Pooh-bah

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (pNxlR)

266 Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosi
I want every single California
Republican to understand this. Your ideology doesn't come first. Your
party doesn't come first. The PEOPLE come first. If you fail to recognize
that, you don't belong here.

This bile, coming from the ultimate fascist - as in all within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state - hack.

Projection - for Democrats it's their breakfast, lunch, dinner and fourth-meal

Posted by: DocJ at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (NYS7S)

267 238 No winds here now or last night. We lost power for 5 hours at 10 last night and have it go on and off 5-6 times today. I think a bunch of high voltage towers are in the fire area.

FBN now says Edison International is 15% down today.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:49 PM (3BFzK)

KSBY got the power outage info correct.

I am ready for any power outages, the electrician just hooked up my huge generator. I have to throw a switch and fire it up. It'll power everything but the guest house and barn.

We always lose power during storms, I have well water so no power, no water.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (Ri/rl)

268 And I'm pretty used to intimidating tall men.
Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM


Hi, shibumi!

Posted by: Tom Cruise at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (ctuyM)

269 I often wonder if Trump doesn't wake up and think "What can I do to erase Jug Ears legacy today?"

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (aC6Sd)

270 Can we open up ANWR already so that Alaska can have an economy again?

KTHNXBI

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2017 03:55 PM (7UW64)

271 Make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.

That's basically what capitalism is. Except its "Make it econommically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing."

Capitalism is a system by which greed is harnessed to the widest benefit for the most people. Its the best we can hope for with sinful people in a fallen world.

I was thrilled with that and I'm an actual conservationist.

Precisely, I am as well. I love the outdoors, I'd live in the wilderness if possible, I find even the most open and empty places to be beautiful and wonderful.

But seriously, the federal government owns enough of the west, and these "monuments" were simply created to block any and all mining, ranching, petroleum resources from being taken advantage of -- or at least only with sufficient bribes and connections.

They were not to protect anything important, it was just a land grab to screw over sectors the Obama administration considered bad people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 03:56 PM (39g3+)

272 Hi, shibumi!


Posted by: Tom Cruise at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (ctuyM)


That sawed-off lunatic is back in the house. Somebody call the exterminator, please.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2017 03:56 PM (7UW64)

273 /Donnie Two Scoops is veeeery scaaaaary.


Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (aT+Bx)
I love your anecdote, shibumi!! He's our honey badger, no doubt about it. :-)

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:56 PM (14URa)

274 Trump had an interesting moment at the Al Smith dinner the night after the 3rd debate. Before he got down to the jokes he put everyone there to shame by telling them how he's known them for decades, they've asked him for assistance (donations, etc.), they've welcomed him into their homes and families, only to stab him in the back the moment he announced his run for the GOP nomination. Some here have noted how Trump likes to get revenge. I think we're seeing it now, and for the next 3-7 more years, as people like Schumer, whom he's known for many years, attempt to play him like a RINO Bush. They will not be pleased when he's not a doormat.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 03:45 PM (W+vEI)

It's been said that when he does exact revenge he won't stab you in the back but stab you in the face.

Has anyone tried listening to Glenn Beck? I watched the election stream and he started to paint a picture because he couldn't handle what was going one and he disappeared towards the end.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2017 03:56 PM (dKiJG)

275 #ButtGorsuch

...as in, "You can kiss."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 05, 2017 03:56 PM (tRaq7)

276 I think it's personal with Bill Kristol; i mean, I think Kristol absolutely hates Trump personally, as a man. I don't know if the two have ever met or even shared space but Kristol acts for all in the world like Trump keyed his car or hit on his girl at the prom. Whatever it is, Kristol will never get over it.
Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (raGQi)


I used to think Billy Boy was a step up from those NR monkeys but he's done nothing but show his simple ass for over a year. Major disappointment and I can't entirely blame it on Egg McMuffin, even though his insanity went Mach 1 after pimping that weird simpleton. I'd like to collar Fred Barnes, who still calls things straight, and hear what he thinks.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2017 03:57 PM (y7DUB)

277 >>>Whenever the NeverTrump fruitbats

Nice wordsmithery!

Posted by: m at December 05, 2017 03:57 PM (sVFZk)

278 He's governing like Ronald Reagan's more conservative brother.



He met the left as "not one of the left." That's all it takes. Their evil is palpable.



I think that once one sees it, like one of those visual puzzles, where the it's a lady or an old man, etc if you squint just right. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 03:57 PM (eO5CB)

279 That sawed-off lunatic is back in the house. Somebody call the exterminator, please.
Posted by: tcn in AK

Not to worry. As long as he stays in the closet

Posted by: Bruce at December 05, 2017 03:57 PM (8ikIW)

280 -
--
Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosi

I want every single California
Republican to understand this. Your ideology doesn't come first. Your
party doesn't come first. Te PEOPLE come first. If you fail to recognize
that, you don't belong here.

-----------------------------


I know, right? Dissenters. They're the worst.


Posted by: Zombie Pol Pot at December 05, 2017 03:57 PM (pMGkg)

281 Can we open up ANWR already so that Alaska can have an economy again?

KTHNXBI
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2017 03:55 PM (7UW64)



Wasn't the payoff for Murkowski's vote on tax reform the opening of ANWR? Which is like the most oh no don't throw me in the briar patch please demand ever.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 03:57 PM (mf5HN)

282 I think it's personal with Bill Kristol; i mean, I think Kristol absolutely hates Trump personally, as a man. I don't know if the two have ever met or even shared space but Kristol acts for all in the world like Trump keyed his car or hit on his girl at the prom. Whatever it is, Kristol will never get over it.

Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (raGQi)


========

Given the recent twitter tirades and Weekly Standard editorials, that's the vibe I get from him. Fuming beneath his breath, but there's nothing of substance there.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 03:58 PM (/qEW2)

283 Remember when Romney and McCain were called to the Trump tower for talks? I am guessing Presdient Trump asked them what kind of people they wanted in their cabinet or thought would be good for the job.

And then he crossed them all off his list.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 03:58 PM (39g3+)

284 Trump was a New York friend of Oprah who supported abortion, socialized medicine, and homosexual marriage. He's governing like Ronald Reagan's more conservative brother.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (39g3+)


Either he doesn't really have much of a political philosophy, or he was a closet conservative in NYC for social reasons. But for Trump everything is personal - he rewards his friends and attacks his enemies.

The people who were labeling him "literally Hitler" and howling at the moon may have done themselves a grave disservice, because he might have tried to work with them on policy if they hadn't made it so personal. Now he wants to destroy them.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:58 PM (+azJs)

285 I was thrilled with that and I'm an actual conservationist.

The US government owns, what, 90% of Nevada? If I'm wrong out that, it's only by about 5%.

There's no reason that those areas cannot be opened for grazing and mining. Hell, I'm all in on auctioning off the land.

Amazon needs a second American HQ? Fine. Let Bezos buy up 20 square miles of Nevada wastelands and set up Bezosland.
Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (mf5HN)



I think you're right. I've been listening to Stone Cold Steve Austin's podcast and he's been talking about buying a new place in Nevada where his brother in law lives and they were just talking about how its like 90% public land and comparing that to his old ranch in Texas.

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at December 05, 2017 03:58 PM (z/Ubi)

286 Ace was one of the people who thought Trump was a sure landslide loser and only supported him reluctantly.But ace was never a butthurt NeverTrumper

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 03:58 PM (LiyEm)

287 They were not to protect anything important, it was just a land grab to screw over sectors the Obama administration considered bad people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 03:56 PM (39g3+)


Pretty much describes ANWR. Nothing there that's any more environmentally sensitive than Kuparuk or Prudhoe Bay, and I can guaran-damn-tee you there are not more than 120 people living in the entire region, but by heaven, WE SHALL NOT DRILL.

As if the feds don't already own 68% of our state, they go and shut down our resource development entirely.

Nobody wants to live in park--we need an economy.

But then, real people don't live in Alaska, right? /s

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2017 03:58 PM (7UW64)

288 Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 03:50 PM (14URa)


I'm in Santa Barbara near the beach. We used to camp at Casitas all the time. Was always hotter than hades.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:59 PM (3BFzK)

289 Those who are still #nevertrump were never actually conservative to begin with.
Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 03:53 PM (jHrzU)

NotRelevant hasn't been conservative for a long time. One of their editors supports homosexual marriage. Abortion is pretty much lip service over there. The only things they care about are an out-dated foreign policy, unrestricted trade, and in practice, unrestricted immigration.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 05, 2017 03:59 PM (J70i0)

290 "I opposed Trump as candidate in the primaries (love me some Ted Cruz) but Trump as president won me over fairly early on."

And we can thank Cruz for Mueller.

Manafort was hired to manage the delegates at the convention because SoreLoserman Cruz (vote your conscious even at the convention) wouldn't accept that it was impossible for him to win.

Manafort - Obama's excuse for wiretapping candidate Trump.

The rest is history.



Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 03:59 PM (03xNs)

291 But Trump is going to put his liberal sister judge on the Supreme Court!!!!!!

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at December 05, 2017 04:00 PM (z/Ubi)

292 And I'm pretty used to intimidating tall men.

I'm willing to take that risk

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 04:00 PM (39g3+)

293 Better to make a politician afraid to to the wrong thing, or afraid to not do the right thing.

'Profitable' is why politicians go into politics in the first place, and doing the wrong thing can be very profitable.

Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 04:00 PM (yP91S)

294 Those who are still #nevertrump were never actually conservative to begin with.Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 03:53 PM (jHrzU)


Correct. The most important part of being a conservative, the key component without which you have nothing, is opposition to far leftist progressive global redistributive collectivism.

I'll use that since "communism" has fallen out of fashion. It was much shorter to type.

Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 04:00 PM (eO5CB)

295 If you go back and look at Trump's inauguration and he starts talking about the 'forgotten man' with the Bush/Clinton/Deep State swamp behind him you will see his true character.

It was visceral and sincere. He KNOWs the scum that the swamp is.

I can see some still don't understand Trump and that's good because it allows him to do the things we want him to do.
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Simply stated, Trump is Heroic in the true meaning of the world. When he said he would fight for his people, he wasn't lying. This disturbed everyone standing behind him.

Remember, as Samson, he had already pulled down both pillars of the Philistines Temple. He is now on to the 11 feats of Hercules. Watch out. This is gonna be good.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 04:01 PM (YV+SU)

296
Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosiI want every single California Republican to understand this. Your ideology doesn't come first. Your party doesn't come first. The PEOPLE come first. If you fail to recognize that, you don't belong here.


That's rich coming from the woman who represents the congressional district that acquitted Kate Steinle's murderer

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 04:01 PM (lKyWE)

297 I'm in Santa Barbara near the beach. We used to camp at Casitas all the time. Was always hotter than hades.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:59 PM (3BFzK)


Lucky you, Santa Barbara is so pretty. My grandmother lived there for about 30 years.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:01 PM (Ri/rl)

298 OT but how the hell are the gopE waiting until the end to get budget bills out? Can't be pissed at Ryno on that. He had all of the HOR bills up to the senate in August. This is all McTurtle's fault.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 04:01 PM (3BFzK)

299 Wasn't the payoff for Murkowski's vote on tax reform the opening of ANWR? Which is like the most oh no don't throw me in the briar patch please demand ever.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 03:57 PM (mf5HN)


Somebody needs to throw her bony ass in the briar patch and leave her there. She is actually dumber and more of a coward than her father, and that's a mighty low place to live. If ever there was a good use of the word "scrunt."

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (7UW64)

300 As far as I am concerned "but Gorsuch" was so monumentally important that everything else was icing on the cake. regulation rollbacks, hiring freezes, battling the disgusting Dems, enraging liberal jaggoffs and now, possibly, a halfway decent tax reform bill getting passed and signed AND a soaring stock market and jobs?!?? These # nevetrumptards better watch out lest "ButGorsuch" be what's hung on their carcasses as they swing from lampposts for trying to stop and undermine what was so good for so many of us US citizens and for fomenting what is, basically, insurrection.

Now . . . if Trump also gets immigration reform done limiting legal immigration (and ending chain migration) and builds a wall? The Nevertrumpers are going to probably be hunted for sport in those "Trump Camps" which will probably actually get built. First in line? Sally Kohn - Huzzah!

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (Fb9aZ)

301 Viagra is in the air...near Pfizers plant?..lol


https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282500/

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (LiyEm)

302 The firing (actual firing) of Comey is still the best thing he has done in my eyes.

Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (sX1BW)

303 297 I'm in Santa Barbara near the beach. We used to camp at Casitas all the time. Was always hotter than hades.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 03:59 PM (3BFzK)


Lucky you, Santa Barbara is so pretty. My grandmother lived there for about 30 years.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:01 PM (Ri/rl)


I wanted to stay there, but jobs are so few and housing so expensive, I'd still be renting today if I did.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (+azJs)

304 Better to make a politician afraid to to the wrong thing, or afraid to not do the right thing.

The Horde knows that I've never understood Friedman's quote. How is the wrong person going to do the right thing unless he or she is forced to do so?

That's just not how any of this works.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 05, 2017 04:03 PM (tRaq7)

305 because he might have tried to work with them on policy if they hadn't made it so personal. Now he wants to destroy them.


Just as well. They're immoral and treacherous. You can't trust them and they will kill you if they can.

Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 04:03 PM (eO5CB)

306 Somebody needs to throw her bony ass in the briar patch and leave her there. She is actually dumber and more of a coward than her father, and that's a mighty low place to live. If ever there was a good use of the word "scrunt."
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (7UW64)



When we were in Alaska last summer, we went past a store that had huge MURKOWSKI FOR SENATE sign at the top and then LIQUOR right under it.

I nodded in agreement.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 04:03 PM (mf5HN)

307 it would be lovely if Donald would let the government go broke and defund all the prog's Must Have items like the NEA and NCH..
Remember, jugears shut war memorials so Vets in wheelchairs couldn't go.

Nancy Pelosi and Pocahantas squeal over the tax cuts like its their money their losing.
I got a pineapple for both of them.

Posted by: vivi at December 05, 2017 04:04 PM (11H2y)

308 Judicial Watch is digging up all the partisan and slanted stuff out there on everyone on Meuller's team, such as Weissman:

http://tinyurl.com/ycqa6v2g

Its gonna be easy to find. Getting people to see and understand it, a bit harder.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 04:04 PM (39g3+)

309 NOOD

Posted by: Bruce at December 05, 2017 04:04 PM (8ikIW)

310 Lucky you, Santa Barbara is so pretty. My grandmother lived there for about 30 years.

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Thanks it is but the people are ugly. I've been here since I was 8 (50 years) and it has sure changed and swung to the commies. We just elected a functioning moron as mayor. I've gone head to head with here and I know why she wears slipons.

Have friends that have gone to SY and Solvang that I never thought would leave.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 04:04 PM (3BFzK)

311 Good news, the helicopters are being released to fly again over the Ventura fire.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 05, 2017 04:05 PM (6Ll1u)

312 nood

Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 04:05 PM (eO5CB)

313 Have friends that have gone to SY and Solvang that I never thought would leave.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 04:04 PM (3BFzK)


Solvang was pretty when I was last there. Is it still done up as "Dutch town"?

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 04:05 PM (+azJs)

314 Posted by: CaliGirl at

I wanted to stay there, but jobs are so few and housing so expensive, I'd still be renting today if I did.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (+

It's so expensive, most normal people commute. Hindsight being what it is I wish we would have bought property there 30 years ago.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:06 PM (Ri/rl)

315 I often wonder if Trump doesn't wake up and think "What can I do to erase Jug Ears legacy today?"

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2017 03:54 PM (aC6Sd)


========

More like, "What part of the farm should I visit today in order to remove Jug Ear's blight?" He really did spread his rot far and wide.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 04:06 PM (/qEW2)

316 When we were in Alaska last summer, we went past a store that had huge MURKOWSKI FOR SENATE sign at the top and then LIQUOR right under it.

I nodded in agreement.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 04:03 PM (mf5HN)


You weren't by chance near Skinny Dick's Halfway Inn, were you? They have a sign that says "Liquor in the front and Poker in the back." They also like to put up everybody's political sign, which makes fun of the entire process.

I realize that joint is an acquired taste....

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2017 04:06 PM (7UW64)

317 >>>Remember, as Samson, he had already pulled down both pillars of the Philistines Temple. He is now on to the 11 feats of Hercules. Watch out. This is gonna be good

Clean the stables, slay the hydra, eat two Filet O Fish and two Big Macs, golf with Tiger...gonna need 7 more

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 05, 2017 04:06 PM (yRgC6)

318
Have friends that have gone to SY and Solvang that I never thought would leave.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 04:04 PM (3BFzK)


Santa Ynez is beautiful

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 04:06 PM (lKyWE)

319 When we were in Alaska last summer, we went past a store that had huge MURKOWSKI FOR SENATE sign at the top and then LIQUOR right under it.

I nodded in agreement.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at December 05, 2017 04:03 PM (mf5HN)


No-phrasing November is over.

Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 04:07 PM (jHrzU)

320
I think it's personal with Bill Kristol; i mean, I think Kristol absolutely hates Trump personally, as a man. I don't know if the two have ever met or even shared space but Kristol acts for all in the world like Trump keyed his car or hit on his girl at the prom. Whatever it is, Kristol will never get over it.
Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2017 03:51 PM (raGQi)


Trump is a U-boat captain who keeps holing Kristol Meth's Severely Konservative Kruise's vessels below the waterline and sinking them before they get up enough steam to exit the harbor. Loss of counted upon revenue might engender some dislike in a person for another person thought to be responsible.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2017 04:07 PM (pNxlR)

321 How is the wrong person going to do the right thing unless he or she is forced to do so?

Well for example, if you have a scumbag like John McCain, you make it so him supporting the right things and voting the right way benefits him politically. So by doing what is right, he has a better chance of being elected and pushing his pet projects along.

Its using the system to encourage people to do the right thing, even if they are doing it for the wrong reasons or are bad people.

Like I said, capitalism is the same sort of concept. Greedy scumbag business owners are pressured to treat their employees and customers better by the system because they tend to lose workers and buyers if they abuse it. They're bad people, but they are pressured to do the right thing anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 05, 2017 04:07 PM (39g3+)

322 Solvang was pretty when I was last there. Is it still done up as "Dutch town"?
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 04:05 PM (+azJs)

Yes, it looks like a story book. Lots of tourists from other countries.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:07 PM (Ri/rl)

323 Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 03:59 PM (03xNs)

Sorry, man, but those dots don't quite connect.

You can blame Ted Cruz for running a poor campaign (and I do) but you can't claim he's responsible for Mueller's current investigation. Well, okay, you can claim that, but the logic and the facts don't support that claim.

Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2017 04:07 PM (raGQi)

324 210 Yeah, I don't really care what these political jackwagons thinks, I'm interested in what they say, but I'm more concerned with what they do.

Somebody I respect said something along the lines "It's less important who you elect than that you set up conditions such that they do what you want when they're in office.". Can't remember who it was, though.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (+azJs)
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Milton Friedman

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 05, 2017 04:08 PM (0jtPF)

325 Romney went to traitor mode immediately after he lost the election. We dodged a bullet with him losing.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets)
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Ah hah, that's why during the debates he pulled his punches. He didn't want to be elected on the truth. He didn't want to be held to truths spoken during the debate.

Being faithful to his religion caused him to lose the election. Thank you, Jesus.

Posted by: gNewt at December 05, 2017 04:09 PM (yHwQE)

326 #ButGorsuch only makes sense if they can point to someone (other than Hillary) who would almost certainly have been much more effective by now. Only possibility where one could try that argument would be Cruz, but even that would be hard to prove. Or maybe, clueless as GOPers are, they think we should have chosen ¡Jeb!.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 04:10 PM (/qEW2)

327 "Solvang was pretty when I was last there. Is it still done up as "Dutch town"?"

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yeah the downtown but you wouldn't believe how much building has gone on there recently. The county signed up for 200% of state mandated illegal housing projects. Since the big mucketymuck live in SB it has to be built in the north county. NIMBY

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 05, 2017 04:10 PM (3BFzK)

328
Yes, it looks like a story book. Lots of tourists from other countries.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:07 PM (Ri/rl)


It's funny European tourist come to California and visit a recreation of an old European town.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 04:11 PM (lKyWE)

329 Trump has done so much good so far he has earned several passes.

The mediocre tax bill is OK by me. Doing away with the Obamacare mandates has made it a two-fer (Thanks Tom Cotton!!)

If the US Embassy in Israel doesn't move to Jerusalem is OK.

If NAFTA is still around I can live with that. (Trump got us out of the Global Trade Agreement and the Paris Accords. That's big.)

The promises that must be kept include BUILDING THE WALL and Getting out of the Iran Nuke Deal.

So far, he's doing great in MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 05, 2017 04:11 PM (A3b6q)

330 #ButNood

So proud.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at December 05, 2017 04:12 PM (T4n7S)

331 314 Posted by: CaliGirl at

I wanted to stay there, but jobs are so few and housing so expensive, I'd still be renting today if I did.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (+

It's so expensive, most normal people commute. Hindsight being what it is I wish we would have bought property there 30 years ago.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:06 PM (Ri/rl)


Me too, but putting the actual monthly payments aside, at the time down payments were going up faster than I could save money. And I had a pretty good job.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 04:13 PM (+azJs)

332 328
Yes, it looks like a story book. Lots of tourists from other countries.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:07 PM (Ri/rl)


It's funny European tourist come to California and visit a recreation of an old European town.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 04:11 PM (lKyWE)

Some of them are Dutch too, they come during Dutch days. I always found that amusing. They visit the fake Holland and Hans Christian Anderson park.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:14 PM (Ri/rl)

333 "You can blame Ted Cruz for running a poor campaign (and I do) but you can't claim he's responsible for Mueller's current investigation. Well, okay, you can claim that, but the logic and the facts don't support that claim."

I'll give you that they would have made up a reason to go after Trump regardless but Manafort was only brought on the campaign because of Cruz.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 04:14 PM (03xNs)

334 NeverTrumpers are asswipe poseurs. They posed as conservatives until they were Trumped. He doesn't give a rat's ass about spouting conservative talking points. He wants America and Americans to prosper. That concept has become so foreign to the swamp dwellers that they don't know how to process it.

Posted by: kraki at December 05, 2017 04:15 PM (TNa9O)

335 Ah hah, that's why during the debates [Romney] pulled his punches. He didn't want to be elected on the truth. He didn't want to be held to truths spoken during the debate.

Being faithful to his religion caused him to lose the election. Thank you, Jesus.

Posted by: gNewt at December 05, 2017 04:09 PM (yHwQE)


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There's nothing about conservative thought that clashes with Mormonism AFAIK. You may think it's false when you examine its origins (which is what I do), but as to the values it promotes, it's not really a liberal religion. In fact, it venerates the US Constitution, IIRC.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 04:15 PM (/qEW2)

336 329 Trump has done so much good so far he has earned several passes.

The mediocre tax bill is OK by me. Doing away with the Obamacare mandates has made it a two-fer (Thanks Tom Cotton!!)

If the US Embassy in Israel doesn't move to Jerusalem is OK.

If NAFTA is still around I can live with that. (Trump got us out of the Global Trade Agreement and the Paris Accords. That's big.)

The promises that must be kept include BUILDING THE WALL and Getting out of the Iran Nuke Deal.

So far, he's doing great in MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
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There are two great achievements to his name:

1. America and Americans can laugh again.

2. He is forcing the Government to follow the Constitution.

After eight years of lawlessness dressed in fake virtue and the unending post modern Puritan screed about 'others' we can now laugh out loud and watch the church ladies tsk. Good Times.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 04:15 PM (YV+SU)

337 331 314 Posted by: CaliGirl at

I wanted to stay there, but jobs are so few and housing so expensive, I'd still be renting today if I did.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 04:02 PM (+

It's so expensive, most normal people commute. Hindsight being what it is I wish we would have bought property there 30 years ago.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:06 PM (Ri/rl)

Me too, but putting the actual monthly payments aside, at the time down payments were going up faster than I could save money. And I had a pretty good job.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 04:13 PM (+azJs)

I didn't have the money 30 years ago either for a down payment. My mother did and almost bought a house there to be close to her mother, she's sorry.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:16 PM (Ri/rl)

338
My working theory is Trump want's to undue every last thing Obama had done in office; Make him a footnote in history. On issues he could go either way, I'm sure he ask's "What Obama do" and goes the opposite way.

It also happened to line up with the paper tiger rhetoric of the RINO Republicans and when it came to put up or shut up, they exposed themselves.'

Trump's walking the walk.
Posted by: WisRich at December 05, 2017 03:17 PM (G0vdT)

Yeah. Trump saw that with the Obama trajectory that America was Fucked.

Trump see his job as getting America Unfucked. Then America will take care of itself and MAGA.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 05, 2017 04:16 PM (A3b6q)

339
Kind of sad that Laura Prepon became just another blond....
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Forgot her name, but as 'Big Red' she was wonderful. Xena the same with generic blond . . . not going to look up the actress, but the dark hair was great.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 05, 2017 04:16 PM (MIKMs)

340 There's nothing about conservative thought that clashes with Mormonism AFAIK. You may think it's false when you examine its origins (which is what I do), but as to the values it promotes, it's not really a liberal religion. In fact, it venerates the US Constitution, IIRC.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 04:15 PM (/qEW2)
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Agreed. However, during a debate Romney landed one square on Obama's jaw. It was obvious that he could have won every round with the truth he knew.

He chose not to use those truth punches because he would be held to them after he was elected. I don't understand how he reconciles his political allegiances and his faith but he does.

Posted by: gNewt at December 05, 2017 04:22 PM (yHwQE)

341 Ah, fuck me, I was on the wrong thread. Reposting (mea culpa)

Jukin, you ever go up to Camp Sheideck? Best campground ever! They stock
the creek with trout, they got showers and an actual cafe/bar avec pool
table and juke box! One of my favorite places on earth. I only ever
told people about it if they would agree to total secrecy.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2017 04:22 PM (14URa)

342 Kind of sad that Laura Prepon became just another blond....
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Forgot her name, but as 'Big Red' she was wonderful. Xena the same with generic blond . . . not going to look up the actress, but the dark hair was great.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 05, 2017 04:16 PM (MIKMs)

she is a woman..blond won't last long...

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2017 04:22 PM (QC/4S)

343 88
73 Does Mark Steyn still write for the NR, or was there a falling out? I'm pretty sure Steyn was terminated with extreme prejudicial sneering.

So there's that. Bring him back, NR.
Posted by: mrp at December 05, 2017 03:22 PM (Pqytn)

Steyn left NR because of the Michael Mann lawsuit. Not sure of the whole story.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 03:25 PM (Ri/rl)

Steyn left because NR wanted to pussy out and settle while Mark wanted a full throated defense of Free Speech against Mann, like he did in Canada against the muzzie fascists on the provincial Orwellian Ethnic Rights boards.

He pretty much chose to not be in the company of cowards.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 05, 2017 04:25 PM (A3b6q)

344 He pretty much chose to not be in the company of cowards.
Posted by: Minuteman at December 05, 2017 04:25 PM (A3b6q)

Well said, I couldn't remember the specifics.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2017 04:28 PM (Ri/rl)

345 I was a never Trumper until the media pissed him off so much that it forced him to govern as a conservative just to spite them. I'm man enough to admit he's done a good job, despite the fact that it's not due to his own good character but rather the insane meltdown of the left making leftist views too toxic for a sane person to stomach.

Posted by: some1 at December 05, 2017 04:31 PM (S5LAZ)

346 186 178 173 I'm probably late to the party, but Hyde from That 70's Show is the latest exposed by Gropemaggeddon.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:37 PM (72PAC)

It's quite a bit more serious than that. Four women are accusing him of rape.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 05, 2017 03:39 PM (+azJs)

Damn, really? Wonder if it goes back as far the show.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 05, 2017 03:40 PM (72PAC)

Gropageddon goes all the way back to the 70's. Ask Roy Moore.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 05, 2017 04:35 PM (A3b6q)

347 Alright, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Posted by: JSchuler at December 05, 2017 04:43 PM (YsGL+)

348 A lot of my friends are shrieking hysterically about
the end of Net Neutrality and the fastest way to piss them off is to
ask "What's wrong with going back to the way things were? The Internet
worked then, didn't it?" Cue screams, tantrums, and running around
shrieking "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!"
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (u0f7+)

The whole Net Neutrality debate began because Comcast was about to implement a plan that cut off access to certain sites unless customers paid them more. That will happen without it and most people will have no alternative provider to choose from. This is not a partisan issue.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 04:47 PM (UBzPO)

349 345 I was a never Trumper until the media pissed him off so much that it forced him to govern as a conservative just to spite them. I'm man enough to admit he's done a good job, despite the fact that it's not due to his own good character but rather the insane meltdown of the left making leftist views too toxic for a sane person to stomach.

Posted by: some1 at December 05, 2017 04:31 PM (S5LAZ)

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Oh please. So much rationalization. You don't have a clue. Trump is governing the way he promised to govern. Period.

You just need some excuse to explain why you were wrong.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 04:52 PM (03xNs)

350 "NeverTrumpers seem to care less about the conservative movement's health than their status in the pecking order within the conservative movement."

Exactly. And on top of that, THEY HAVE NOT DELIVERED. They mouth all kinds of B.S., then tut tut away our concerns over the lack of progress toward those goals. At some point , to be a leader, you actually have to do something that proves your worth to lead, other than publish trump hit pieces and go on wine cruises.

The thing about Trump is he takes the battle to the enemy. He manages to back foot these guys, over and over. You may not like his style. He doesn't follow Marques of Queensberry rules, but what the fuck, he punches back, hard. Not only that, he chasing them around the ring, raining blows on their fool heads. It ain't fair, it ain't pretty, he hits below the belt, hell, let's be honest, he occasionally takes a swing at the refs. But he is windmilling into these guys, and finally making some progress.

He's also embarrassing them because - he is uncouth, unsophisticated, breaking all the fake and phony rules they set up. he's also showing that those rules exist for just one purpose - to keep them in power, and prevent problems getting solved.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at December 05, 2017 04:59 PM (fftfA)

351 I liked what Andrew Klavan (a then recent, and still qualified) supporter of Trump, said to Goldberg, when Jonah asked, "OK, Gorsuch. What else?" Klavan replied "Isn't that enough."

Face it, if Hillary had won, Garland would've been the best case. We'd probably have gotten Huma.

Posted by: George LeS at December 05, 2017 05:12 PM (+TcCF)

352 One guy's name keeps coming to me whenever Flynn or his son once again shift allegiances: Alcibiades!

Can't quite recollect how that all turned out. Surely some one of the horde can help me out here.

Posted by: Anne R. Abler at December 05, 2017 05:21 PM (gRjsG)

353 @348

Net Neutrally=Free Ride


The Gamers and Netflicks love taking up 80% of you bandwidth and you have to cover for their greed, while you only use 1%.


That and all that streaming slows down your connection.


Pay to Play bitches

Posted by: George at December 05, 2017 05:48 PM (TXZAP)

354 The GOP establishment made a bet against Trump, and they lost. There is a price to be paid for that, but they're trying to skip the check.

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 05, 2017 05:49 PM (50gG9)

355 Who are these nevertrumpers and does anyone read them? Do they matter enough to talk about so much?

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at December 05, 2017 05:53 PM (rXZX0)

356 We also have Trump's economy. Four years of Hillary after Obama's Malaise would've had a whole generation concrete in the belief that America was no longer a 1st world country.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at December 05, 2017 05:56 PM (rXZX0)

357 Bill Kristol tweeted in response to Trump Merry Christmas, Bah Humbug.

Posted by: MikeN at December 05, 2017 06:01 PM (o/eHL)

358 348 A lot of my friends are shrieking hysterically about
the end of Net Neutrality and the fastest way to piss them off is to
ask "What's wrong with going back to the way things were? The Internet
worked then, didn't it?" Cue screams, tantrums, and running around
shrieking "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!"
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (u0f7+)

The whole Net Neutrality debate began because Comcast was about to implement a plan that cut off access to certain sites unless customers paid them more. That will happen without it and most people will have no alternative provider to choose from. This is not a partisan issue.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 04:47 PM (UBzPO)

Provider of what?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2017 06:05 PM (u0f7+)

359 348 A lot of my friends are shrieking hysterically about
the end of Net Neutrality and the fastest way to piss them off is to
ask "What's wrong with going back to the way things were? The Internet
worked then, didn't it?" Cue screams, tantrums, and running around
shrieking "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!"
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2017 03:44 PM (u0f7+)

The whole Net Neutrality debate began because Comcast was about to implement a plan that cut off access to certain sites unless customers paid them more. That will happen without it and most people will have no alternative provider to choose from. This is not a partisan issue.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 04:47 PM (UBzPO)

Nor am I partisan. But simply put, if you are pro-Net Neutrality, you hate freedom and do not trust the market. The Net worked PERFECTLY fine before 2015.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2017 06:19 PM (u0f7+)

360 Trump is the most conservative president in my lifetime, and my lifetime includes Reagan.

Yeah. I said it.

Posted by: zucked at December 05, 2017 10:38 PM (KL5Ns)

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