McCain, Murkowski Announce Support of Tax Reform Bill

Murkowski had a demand: opening a small part of the Alaska National Wilderness Refuge to oil exploration.

That's like the easiest, gimmie-est demand ever. I'm not sure why we weren't acting on that already.

McCain also announced he will support a Republican measure, just to prove that it can actually happen.

“After careful thought and consideration, I have decided to support the Senate tax reform bill. I believe this legislation, though far from perfect, would enhance American competitiveness, boost the economy, and provide long overdue tax relief for middle class families," McCain said in a statement.

The DJIA spiked 332 points to close over 24,000 for the first time in history.

The stock market rally of 2017, which has pushed the Dow up nearly 23%, has been fueled by a global economic recovery that has been a boon for corporate profits and lifted consumer confidence to its highest levels since 2000.

Here's the Director's Cut of the Wii Fit Cowbell Girl:

That clip includes the Creepy Dude recording her, for the 'Ettes.

Posted by: Ace at 05:52 PM

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1 UNO

Posted by: X-ray at November 30, 2017 05:50 PM (VDQek)

2 Will wonders never cease?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 30, 2017 05:50 PM (QQ+il)

3 2nd

Posted by: Phildirt at November 30, 2017 05:51 PM (qoTFr)

4 The Dow is actually a quarter of the way to 25k.

I like this new Czar Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 30, 2017 05:51 PM (QQ+il)

5 Or not

Posted by: Phildirt at November 30, 2017 05:51 PM (qoTFr)

6 It's like an ass metronome.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2017 05:52 PM (/tuJf)

7 Well good for them.
So it's going to pass, then ?

#NotTiredOfWinningYet!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2017 05:52 PM (Ktb8D)

8 Is Hula Hoop Girl our answer to Allahpundit's Humpbot?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2017 05:52 PM (hyuyC)

9 I now have the strangest urge to hear Palin whisper "Drill baby, drill!!" in my ear...softly at first.

bunk

Posted by: Cu'Chulainnn--A clique of 1...now with less meme at November 30, 2017 05:52 PM (8mYHH)

10 But but but this bill will raise taxes on the middle class!!! (Actually, it will - the middle classes in deep blue coastal cities, like S.F. where at $200k/year, I am hardly rich. Not being able to deduct state taxes is going to f'ing HURT, but at least I'll have a schadenboner to rub.)

Posted by: SFGoth at November 30, 2017 05:54 PM (dZ756)

11 Yay, McCain!

Posted by: m at November 30, 2017 05:54 PM (2eB98)

12 Damn those middle class property tax payers. They're the worst!

Posted by: Chris M at November 30, 2017 05:54 PM (0xHd5)

13 ANWAR is where they make solid ice roads in the winter to bring in the heavy equipment. When the ice melts there are just some gravel roads for cars and trucks. Almost zero impact.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 30, 2017 05:55 PM (QQ+il)

14 Stock market went nuts today. Yet another Trump fail. Heh.

Posted by: Peaches at November 30, 2017 05:55 PM (14URa)

15 That dude should run for congress.

Posted by: Dang at November 30, 2017 05:55 PM (8b+oT)

16 So if this bill passes, we get a tax cut and repeal of the ObamaCare Individual Mandate?

Plus possible drilling in ANWR?

Trump should just vacation the rest of his term in Mar-a-Lago.

Posted by: Maritime at November 30, 2017 05:55 PM (lKmt3)

17 Meanwhile Susan Collins negotiates for her pot of gold.

Posted by: golfman at November 30, 2017 05:55 PM (48QDY)

18 Stock market went nuts today. Yet another Trump fail. Heh.
Posted by: Peaches

Paul Krugman.

Still so very, very wrong.

So sorry. So very, very sorry.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 30, 2017 05:56 PM (vcOmj)

19 McCains only voting yes becuae his no vote on Obamacare and victory dance with Schumer made him the most hated man in the country.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2017 05:56 PM (rEW4J)

20 I believe commentors in the thread below are saying McCain will say he supports the bill, only to vote against it at the vote.

He's a despicable piece of crap. All he thinks about is how the media calls him "Maverick" for betraying American citizens.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 30, 2017 05:56 PM (l9m7l)

21 Meanwhile Susan Collins negotiates for her pot of gold.
Posted by: golfman

She really just wants to sit on Al Franken's lap.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 30, 2017 05:57 PM (vcOmj)

22 If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.

Posted by: Former Enron Financial Adviser Paul Krugman at November 30, 2017 05:57 PM (QQ+il)

23 Ace this floating Sonobi add is the worst. I can't read the damn post.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2017 05:57 PM (rEW4J)

24 23%, so much winning. Wish I had more in the market, but the Obama years sucked.

Posted by: wooga at November 30, 2017 05:57 PM (U49B9)

25 Wii fit girl has a nice tush.

Posted by: AoSHQ Completist at November 30, 2017 05:57 PM (2kiKp)

26 Did Wii Fit girl need her glasses to touch the coins?

Posted by: Matt Lauer at November 30, 2017 05:58 PM (48QDY)

27 I stand by my prediction that McCain will vote *NO*

Posted by: Max Power at November 30, 2017 05:59 PM (q177U)

28 20 I believe commentors in the thread below are saying McCain will say he supports the bill, only to vote against it at the vote.

He's a despicable piece of crap. All he thinks about is how the media calls him "Maverick" for betraying American citizens.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 30, 2017 05:56 PM (l9m7l)

Vote for the bill and then vote against it after the reconcilliation bill with the House.

I imagine that there are multiple avenues for him to still screw us on this.

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 30, 2017 05:59 PM (z/Ubi)

29 >>So if this bill passes, we get a tax cut and repeal of the ObamaCare Individual Mandate?

>>Plus possible drilling in ANWR?

Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet. If it passes, it goes to conference committee with the House and whole new bill gets created and then has to pass both Houses again.

Still, big step.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2017 05:59 PM (/tuJf)

30 Matt Lauer: I like the video, but it's not assaulty enough.

Al Franken: Yeah. He should have grabbed her. Plus, I get the feeling she knew he was there and knew him in some way. Big turn off.

Posted by: Dang at November 30, 2017 05:59 PM (8b+oT)

31 That's a nice right heinie right there.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 30, 2017 06:00 PM (NWiLs)

32 *tight*

Damn you, autocucumber!

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 30, 2017 06:00 PM (NWiLs)

33 I stand by my prediction that McCain will vote *NO*

Posted by: Max Power
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Yep. In the 11th hour he'll find something horrible in the bill.

Posted by: Dang at November 30, 2017 06:01 PM (8b+oT)

34 33
I stand by my prediction that McCain will vote *NO*

Posted by: Max Power
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Yep. In the 11th hour he'll find something horrible in the bill.

Posted by: Dang at November 30, 2017 06:01 PM (8b+oT)
Maybe his tumor is giving him some common sense.

Posted by: IC at November 30, 2017 06:02 PM (a0IVu)

35 Ace this floating Sonobi add is the worst. I can't read the damn post.

Posted by: Marcus T
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Adblocker. I can't read the damn ads. But I also don't have access to the lace wig marketplace.

Posted by: Dang at November 30, 2017 06:02 PM (8b+oT)

36 Wiiiiiiiiiii gurrrrrrrrrllllllll.

That's like a decade old dude. Like the constitution.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at November 30, 2017 06:02 PM (MCEs2)

37 McCains only voting yes becuae his no vote on Obamacare and victory dance with Schumer made him the most hated man in the country.
Posted by: Marcus T

________

I think he actually is worried about his that both sides will end up hating him and that will be his legacy.

The Left thinks he's a crazy warmonger (which he is) and the Right thinks he's a petty vindictive man that has no principle and only votes in a way to settle old scores and boost his ego (also correct)

Regardless, I'll be glad when he's no longer my Senator from Az. Same with Jeff Flake.

Posted by: Maritime at November 30, 2017 06:04 PM (lKmt3)

38 That's not a Creepy Dude, that's her brother.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 30, 2017 06:04 PM (IWbvi)

39 Funny you mention the individual mandate. Was just harangueing our 26 year old son to price catastrophic care. He's unemployed and we can't sleep at night knowing it would bankrupt us to pay his care if he got hurt. Any other ideas I'm all ears. Just want catastrophic. He's other healthy so just INSURANCE, not middleware for everyday needs.

Posted by: charley horse at November 30, 2017 06:05 PM (+kahX)

40 C'mon ace, that is hardly a boon for the ettes...give us a good looking dude to appreciate will ya?

Posted by: IC at November 30, 2017 06:05 PM (a0IVu)

41 McCain's an icon of assholery

Posted by: dagny at November 30, 2017 06:05 PM (eO5CB)

42 MAGA. Not even McCain can harsh our buzz. Reminds me of the Reagan momentum.

Posted by: redenzo at November 30, 2017 06:06 PM (5wSNN)

43 What's McCain's angle? I don't trust the sob.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2017 06:06 PM (6bmev)

44 Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.

Too late. I already ordered it nationwide.

Posted by: Hyphenated Hawaii Judge at November 30, 2017 06:06 PM (U49B9)

45 I know I butchered haran, haraun, haura, nag.

Posted by: charley horse at November 30, 2017 06:06 PM (+kahX)

46
What, not even a ficus nearby? Poor production values.

Posted by: Uncle Harvey at November 30, 2017 06:07 PM (8O3HH)

47 "Not being able to deduct state taxes is going to f'ing HURT, but at least I'll have a schadenboner to rub.)"

I'm in NYC. I've likened this to calling in an artillery strike on my own position.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 30, 2017 06:07 PM (cAXIk)

48
Prediction: Manchin will vote Yes, too.

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 30, 2017 06:07 PM (DOaBg)

49 Trump's Recovery appears to be gaining speed, and that much sooner and at a more rapid pace than Regan's post-Cadduh revival.

Difference being, that Reagan's Recovery didn't really become utterly convincing until well into his first term. While now, under Trump this skyward sprint of the Dow, record low unemployment, record high workforce participation and very, very sudden realization of a 3.3%+ GDP growth rate...are indeed, utterly convincing.

And this in under one year's time in office.

Imagine now if you would, what Trump could do with a cooperative Congress.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 30, 2017 06:08 PM (QzJWU)

50 Damn, that girl has no butt...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at November 30, 2017 06:08 PM (Or7KF)

51 I'd lock her in my office.

Posted by: wth - acting manager, Matt Lauer's Sex Dungeon at November 30, 2017 06:08 PM (HgMAr)

52 14 Stock market went nuts today. Yet another Trump fail. Heh.
Posted by: Peaches at November 30, 2017 05:55 PM (14URa)

Will no enterprising reporter ever bring this up to Krugman for his thoughtlets?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 30, 2017 06:08 PM (YqDXo)

53 Wasn't there a Wii version of sexual assault where you used the fake tennis racket?

Or was it the golf club?

I think Matt had the "gold version" in his rape room.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at November 30, 2017 06:08 PM (MCEs2)

54 It's a trap!

Posted by: Under Fire at November 30, 2017 06:08 PM (r9UYA)

55 zombie, left you a post at the bottom of previous threaf

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 30, 2017 06:08 PM (hMwEB)

56 Zombie, the tweeted videos are reposted in this page from the Conservative Tree House, down in the comments,

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycvtw4gb

Posted by: rd at November 30, 2017 06:09 PM (4dz1m)

57 50 Damn, that girl has no butt...

Atrophy and age will take care of that. Only get better.

Posted by: charley horse at November 30, 2017 06:09 PM (+kahX)

58 Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.

But that's what all red blooded hetero men due on Thursday afternoons.

Posted by: British Magazine Editor at November 30, 2017 06:09 PM (U49B9)

59
Murkowski had a demand: opening a small part of the Alaska National Wilderness Refuge to oil exploration.

That's like the easiest, gimmie-est demand ever. I'm not sure why we weren't acting on that already.

Maybe she just brought it up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2017 06:09 PM (IqV8l)

60
Another Prediction: Right now as I type this a leftist hoaxer is vandalizing a mosque somewhere in the USA to frame President Trump.

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 30, 2017 06:09 PM (DOaBg)

61 >>Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.
This.

The curtain hasn't gone up yet on Failure theater.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 30, 2017 06:10 PM (r9UYA)

62
Yeah, expect a few "hate crimes" on muslims this weekend. Hoaxes.

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 30, 2017 06:10 PM (DOaBg)

63 McCain also announced he will support a Republican measure, just to prove that it can actually happen.

Hahahahaha. Well played.

Posted by: Ace's liver at November 30, 2017 06:11 PM (+azJs)

64 49 Trump's Recovery appears to be gaining speed, and that much sooner and at a more rapid pace than Regan's post-Cadduh revival.

Difference being, that Reagan's Recovery didn't really become utterly convincing until well into his first term. While now, under Trump this skyward sprint of the Dow, record low unemployment, record high workforce participation and very, very sudden realization of a 3.3%+ GDP growth rate...are indeed, utterly convincing.

And this in under one year's time in office.

I can't say I'm surprised, frankly. I mentioned to my family that I thought Trump had a chance to win - which they pooh-poohed - and that if he did, I thought the economy might explode, because eight years of bungling and uncertainty probably led a lot of companies and people to stay on the economic sidelines, creating a major overhang. They thought that that was fanciful, too.

Eventually I'll develop some cred with them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 30, 2017 06:11 PM (YqDXo)

65 >>Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.

The fat lady has not sung yet.

And, no, Hillary's book doesn't count.

Posted by: Lily(Formerly of Hot Air) now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night at November 30, 2017 06:11 PM (vivhj)

66

The hookers and blow are flowing freely on Wall Street again.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at November 30, 2017 06:11 PM (8O3HH)

67 Maybe McCain's second tumor has taken control of his brain.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 30, 2017 06:11 PM (hMwEB)

68 Watched some of MSNBC today. The whole vibe is like your at your uncles funeral. Nice.

Posted by: redenzo at November 30, 2017 06:11 PM (5wSNN)

69
Anyone else worried about runaway Inflation, now?

Posted by: Eyeore at November 30, 2017 06:12 PM (DOaBg)

70 McCain, Murkowski Announce Support of Tax Reform Bill
............

Uh-oh. What's wrong with it?

Posted by: wth - acting manager, Matt Lauer's Sex Dungeon at November 30, 2017 06:12 PM (HgMAr)

71 I'll only celebrate when they have passed, in both houses, whatever come out of the joint committee and lands on the President's desk.

Posted by: geoffb at November 30, 2017 06:13 PM (zOpu5)

72 Difference being, that Reagan's Recovery didn't really become utterly convincing until well into his first term. While now, under Trump this skyward sprint of the Dow, record low unemployment, record high workforce participation and very, very sudden realization of a 3.3%+ GDP growth rate...are indeed, utterly convincing.

And this in under one year's time in office.

Coincidence, pure coincidence. And it's really just the result of Obama's policies. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Posted by: pep, channeling the media at November 30, 2017 06:13 PM (GMG6W)

73 It Tumor vs Tumor in a cranial cage match!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2017 06:13 PM (IqV8l)

74 "68 Watched some of MSNBC today. The whole vibe is like your at your uncles funeral. Nice."

Not the rich uncle, the other one, the one everybody liked.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2017 06:13 PM (k1TUh)

75 On New Years Eve, that guy climbing the pole and crushing the ball screaming "Sonobi!"

That's me.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2017 06:13 PM (rEW4J)

76 "Not being able to deduct state taxes is going to f'ing HURT, but at least I'll have a schadenboner to rub.)"

I'm in NYC. I've likened this to calling in an artillery strike on my own position.
Posted by: Ignoramus

DANGER CLOSE

Posted by: Jean at November 30, 2017 06:13 PM (yM/Yl)

77 Like the Wii Fit video . . . I miss Cake Girl . . .

Posted by: Another Lurker at November 30, 2017 06:14 PM (EATOD)

78 That young lady would never make it out of Matt Lauer's rape room without PTSD.

Posted by: Fritz at November 30, 2017 06:14 PM (wx3l0)

79 "72 Difference being, that Reagan's Recovery didn't really become utterly convincing until well into his first term."

It was well into the 3rd year, the usual suspects were already talking about him being a one term Pres since the economy was still so slow.

But working out of those 17% interest rates took a hell of a long time, and that alone was a huge drag on everything. Thanks, Jimmy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2017 06:15 PM (k1TUh)

80 >> Anyone else worried about runaway Inflation, now?

Anyone looking at the Fed's balance sheet could be concerned. But even with that huge pile of digi-dollars they "printed", it still hasn't caught fire (what it did was inflate all the crap on the bank's balance sheet that had suddenly become worthless, so it did inflate in that specific sense. That was it's purpose). It could yet catch fire.

But the system is so rigged now, I don't if anything really works like it's supposed to any more.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at November 30, 2017 06:15 PM (8O3HH)

81 That's a nice right heinie right there.

Search in vain for the cowbell.
Get German language lessons.

Posted by: Too Slow, Too Old, I am at November 30, 2017 06:15 PM (KdDCu)

82 Sorry to go off topic so early, but has everyone ordered their Growler Sky Art Christmas tree ornament from PlaneForm?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 30, 2017 06:15 PM (GzDYP)

83
ObamaCare has been a success in one measure... because of high deductibles people are visiting 'Urgent Care' facilities to save a boatload of money. Paying $200 out of pocket for what would have cost them $1000 out of pocket at the hospital ER.

I don't think anyone is about to take chisel in hand and start carving his scrawny ass on Mount Rushmore.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 30, 2017 06:15 PM (ajiE5)

84 I can't say I'm surprised, frankly. I mentioned to my family that I thought Trump had a chance to win - which they pooh-poohed - and that if he did, I thought the economy might explode, because eight years of bungling and uncertainty probably led a lot of companies and people to stay on the economic sidelines, creating a major overhang. They thought that that was fanciful, too.

Eventually I'll develop some cred with them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

You should develop ownership over them.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2017 06:15 PM (6bmev)

85 Coincidence, pure coincidence. And it's really just the result of Obama's policies. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Posted by: pep, channeling the media at November 30, 2017 06:13 PM (GMG6W)
Pure coincidence that it took off less than 12 hours after Trump won.

Posted by: Peaches at November 30, 2017 06:16 PM (14URa)

86 Does Tillerson wear a yamaka.

Posted by: redenzo at November 30, 2017 06:16 PM (5wSNN)

87 "I'm in NYC. I've likened this to calling in an artillery strike on my own position.
Posted by: Ignoramus"

I'm in Texas.

FIRE!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2017 06:16 PM (k1TUh)

88 Anyone else worried about runaway Inflation, now?

*Raises Hand*

Been worried since 2008.

Posted by: Too Slow, Too Old, I am at November 30, 2017 06:16 PM (KdDCu)

89 Okay I have an admission, Horde.

No, not about that.

Or that other thing.

We agreed never to mention That again.

I assumed when Murkowski said that she wanted something to do with ANWR for her yes vote, that she wanted it continued to be closed because, c'mon, her wanting part of it opened was a pro-Republican thing so that couldn't be it.

Grrrr. Fine. She wasn't completely awful. Grrrr.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 30, 2017 06:17 PM (dEQP3)

90 69
Anyone else worried about runaway Inflation, now?
Posted by: Eyeore at November 30, 2017 06:12 PM (DOaBg)

If China and Russia are successful in cornering raw resources in Africa, Central and South America, then I'm thinking yes.

Right now with the US State Dept in shambles, the void is being filled. Once China owns the copper oxide and sulfide ore market, they can set the price for the copper products they will produce with their continued low cost per labor unit. We will be looking at 1973 OPEC.

Posted by: charley horse at November 30, 2017 06:18 PM (+kahX)

91 Of course the House could just screw McCain, if he pulls that stunt, by just passing the actual Senate bill themselves.

Like Reid did the other way around on Obamacare when he couldn't get 60 votes and so just passed the already passed House bill.

Posted by: geoffb at November 30, 2017 06:18 PM (zOpu5)

92 I don't know how to explain this, but I feel the need to say in my best Dr. McCoy voice:

"Don't go in there Jim, it's a trap!!!"

Posted by: shibumi at November 30, 2017 06:18 PM (aT+Bx)

93 "86 Does Tillerson wear a yamaha."

He's a big guy, but even the 125 cc model is still a bit big for him to wear.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2017 06:18 PM (k1TUh)

94 >>That's a nice right heinie right there.

>>Search in vain for the cowbell.
Get German language lessons.

I heard it in Australian.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2017 06:18 PM (/tuJf)

95 89 Okay I have an admission, Horde.

No, not about that.

Or that other thing.

We agreed never to mention That again.

I assumed when Murkowski said that she wanted something to do with ANWR for her yes vote, that she wanted it continued to be closed because, c'mon, her wanting part of it opened was a pro-Republican thing so that couldn't be it.

Grrrr. Fine. She wasn't completely awful. Grrrr.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 30, 2017 06:17 PM (dEQP3)

I assume opening up that part of ANWR will be a nice big pot of graft and pork headed her way that the Alaskan Republican Machine will get to dole out to who they see fit.

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM (z/Ubi)

96
"86 Does Tillerson wear a yamaha."

He's a big guy, but even the 125 cc model is still a bit big for him to wear.

He uses the Suzuki method.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM (IqV8l)

97 Anyone looking at the Fed's balance sheet could be concerned. But even with that huge pile of digi-dollars they "printed", it still hasn't caught fire (what it did was inflate all the crap on the bank's balance sheet that had suddenly become worthless, so it did inflate in that specific sense. That was it's purpose). It could yet catch fire.

The whole world needs to keep that from happening and they need the US economy to grow. I expect some serious ass kissing.

Posted by: Jean at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM (yM/Yl)

98 Also... according the Gateway Pundit (I know).. Geraldo Rivera is the next contestant on "Pervs R Us!"

Posted by: shibumi at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM (aT+Bx)

99 PDT is creating disposable income. My business thrives on disposable income.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM (IvIZd)

100 Here is something to consider. Who do you see at airports if you are travelling to Africa, Central and South America?

Young Chinese and old Americans. Fact.

Posted by: charley horse at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM (+kahX)

101 53 Wasn't there a Wii version of sexual assault where you used the fake tennis racket?

Or was it the golf club?

I think Matt had the "gold version" in his rape room.
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at November 30, 2017 06:08 PM (MCEs2)

I'm a little surprised nobody has invented dirty Wii yet.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 30, 2017 06:20 PM (nBr1j)

102
I just looked at the lasted H.4.1 (Fed balance sheet). Still stands at $4.4T on the asset side, with $2.2T in reserve, digi-dollar balances.

Theoretically, that should catch fire and inflate like hell. Unwinding that monetary incontinence is going to be a difficult tricky operation.

But again, I've concluded the system is so rigged, that all that won't do anything unless the banking powers that be want it to. So it's a good as not being there, unless they decide to let it loose all at once, which they won't.

Unless they're bat-shit. Which they might be. Snorting too much coke off the whores' asses or something.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at November 30, 2017 06:20 PM (8O3HH)

103 Grrrr. Fine. She wasn't completely awful. Grrrr.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around

She could've held out for dropping Al Franken into Mauna Loa, but I'll take it.

Posted by: pep, channeling the media at November 30, 2017 06:20 PM (GMG6W)

104 That video is hypnotizing. I "accidentially" clicked on the link. There's more videos of her, one wearing just a bra and panties. BRB, Bunk.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 30, 2017 06:20 PM (VAlay)

105
Murkowski had a demand: opening a small part of the Alaska National Wilderness Refuge to oil exploration.

That's like the easiest, gimmie-est demand ever. I'm not sure why we weren't acting on that already.

Maybe she just brought it up.

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The MN DFL is running ads against Congressman Eric Paulsen, telling him to vote NO on Arctic Drilling. Eric is a squishy, never-trumping RINO in MN-3, which is the Western Minneapolis suburbs.

Personally, I hope he gets primaried, but he isn't in my district. I might volunteer for a primary challenger though.

Posted by: rd at November 30, 2017 06:21 PM (4dz1m)

106 ( reads McStain and Murkowski are voting for the tax reform bill)

THUD

( fainted)

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2017 06:21 PM (aC6Sd)

107 Lower taxes.

Cut spending.

Arrest Hillary.

Winning!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 30, 2017 06:21 PM (MeM4j)

108 Geraldo Rivera is the next contestant on "Pervs R Us!"

Posted by: shibumi at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM (aT+Bx)
To the surprise of exactly no one. Isn't it kind of a given with that guy and how long he's been around and, well, his mouth?

Posted by: Peaches at November 30, 2017 06:21 PM (14URa)

109 Geraldo Rivera is the next contestant on "Pervs R Us!"
Posted by: shibumi at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 30, 2017 06:22 PM (VAlay)

110 Vote for the bill and then vote against it after the reconcilliation bill with the House.

I imagine that there are multiple avenues for him to still screw us on this.
Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 30, 2017 05:59 PM (z/Ubi)

This is exactly my prediction, too.

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at November 30, 2017 06:22 PM (QU+qf)

111 Anyone else worried about runaway Inflation, now?

Of course. The Fed pumped funny money into the economy because the economy was on life support, thanks in no small measure to the policies pursued by our dusky Messiah (e.g., Obamacare). If the Fed had allowed interest rates to rise to where they really should have been - viz., where arm's length investors, such as the Chinese, would invest - rather than buying our own debt (how does that work, exactly?) the country would have gone into a deep recession, maybe a depression.

Now that the economy is moving again, all of that liquidity is going to be chasing the same quantity of goods and services, which on one hand allows the Fed to raise interest rates, and on the other necessitates that it do so.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 30, 2017 06:22 PM (YqDXo)

112 On the table next to Wii fit girl's TV set, is that a lamp missing a lampshade and bulb, or is it a bong, or what?

And the picture hanging on the wall to Wii fit girl's right -- is that a squirt gun, a canon, or a rectangular alligator thing?

Ok, so I notice extraneous details. It's an ADD thing.

Posted by: Hands Solo, too much time on my nic at November 30, 2017 06:23 PM (EzdLW)

113 Now, if a SCOTUS vacancy comes up before Christmas...it really would be glorious.

Posted by: IC at November 30, 2017 06:24 PM (a0IVu)

114 >>Here is something to consider. Who do you see at airports if you are travelling to Africa, Central and South America?

>>Young Chinese and old Americans. Fact.

Hey!

But you are somewhat correct. Not completely but yea, I've been saying that for a while and it's not just Africa and South America. They are moving into the Middle East in a big way too.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2017 06:24 PM (/tuJf)

115
Trump is making up for this, MAGA:

https://tinyurl.com/y8uo26o9

Posted by: MAGA at November 30, 2017 06:24 PM (LnOh3)

116 Who predicted Simmons yesterday? Any winners?

My prediction for tomorrow is Al Gore.

Posted by: freaked at November 30, 2017 06:24 PM (UdKB7)

117
Old Fake News fake narrative: President Trump has no legislative victories!

New Fake News fake narrative: President Trump has only one legislative victory!

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 30, 2017 06:25 PM (DOaBg)

118 56 Zombie, the tweeted videos are reposted in this page from the Conservative Tree House, down in the comments,

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycvtw4gb
Posted by: rd

Thx!

Posted by: zombie at November 30, 2017 06:25 PM (42M22)

119 "Ok, so I notice extraneous details. It's an ADD thing."

I think I pretty much only noticed one thing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2017 06:25 PM (k1TUh)

120 Unless they're bat-shit. Which they might be. Snorting too much coke off the whores' asses or something.
Posted by: publius,

Lucky we have a tee-totaler as President

Posted by: Jean at November 30, 2017 06:25 PM (yM/Yl)

121 I'm going to make that a standing prediction until it comes true.

Posted by: freaked at November 30, 2017 06:25 PM (UdKB7)

122 Macaroni telephone scobby bippy doodoo!

Posted by: John McCain at November 30, 2017 06:26 PM (4ErVI)

123
ah HAH! Found the problem why I couldn't find "can't touch this" video on youtube.

Had three tabs of youtube open and they were all set to autoplay.

Posted by: Too Slow, Too Old, I am at November 30, 2017 06:26 PM (KdDCu)

124 Look, progressives - the stock market is flipping the fuck out over even a slight potential for this tax reform bill to happen. These are people who understand economics, understand capitalism, understand bottom lines. They are unanimously voting with their wallets for this bill.

What possible reason do you have to oppose tax reform? Seriously, what is it? That you won't get DACA? I mean, I have yet to hear a coherent description of their opposition other than it might help Trump get re-elected. Last I checked, that is not in their job description.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at November 30, 2017 06:26 PM (fftfA)

125 Old and busted Fake News narrative: Trump has only one legislative victory

New hotness Fake News narrative: Trump is a dictator.

Posted by: pep at November 30, 2017 06:26 PM (GMG6W)

126 Another look at it from a different perspective:

https://tinyurl.com/Obama-economic-destruction

Posted by: MAGA at November 30, 2017 06:27 PM (LnOh3)

127 >>Here is something to consider. Who do you see at airports if you are travelling to Africa, Central and South America?

>>Young Chinese and old Americans. Fact.

It's fat, middle aged Americans -- not I'm not old, yet.

Posted by: Jean at November 30, 2017 06:27 PM (yM/Yl)

128 Zombie,

Here is one video,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WB34jAFU-A4

Islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof and beats him to death

Posted by: rd at November 30, 2017 06:27 PM (4dz1m)

129 I've read about the ice roads. Jonah Goldberg (yeah, I know... but it was wayyy pre-Trump) once wrote a great feature piece about ANWR for NR on dead tree. IIRC he even visited the place and called it a "pestilential wonderland". It was a pro-drill baby drill essay.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 30, 2017 06:29 PM (EzdLW)

130 cbs is still going with the Tillerson is about to be fored story.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 30, 2017 06:29 PM (hMwEB)

131 The Chinese State Department is humming.
The US State Department is moribund.
It's going to cost us big one day.

Posted by: charley horse at November 30, 2017 06:29 PM (+kahX)

132 I think the usual suspects are onboard because they see a bloodbath coming in 2018 otherwise.

And I don't mean electorally.

Posted by: MAGA at November 30, 2017 06:29 PM (LnOh3)

133 "After thought and careful consideration" - that's pretty funny. So McCain is doing humor now? What's next, Franken is a military hero? They're trading places in the Senate?

Posted by: Rhomboid at November 30, 2017 06:30 PM (WVN3k)

134 Am I worried about run away inflation?

Why start now? been this way my whole adult life since they print money like its for a Monopoly game.

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2017 06:31 PM (aC6Sd)

135 ( reads McStain and Murkowski are voting for the tax reform bill)

THUD

( fainted)
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2017 06:21 PM (aC6Sd)
------------

Here, you can have the rest of my smelling salts. I needed them too.

Posted by: bluebell at November 30, 2017 06:32 PM (UoSKV)

136 LOL, I have rediscovered a strange new respect for Megyn Kelly.

Fuck those soy-latte drinkers on Today. It's hilarious that they're all butthurt except Megyn.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 30, 2017 06:32 PM (6FqZa)

137 The panic is setting in big time.

NBC with non-stop hysterics about the tax bill so it's gonna pass.

Did you know getting rid of the mandate will cause a 10% increase in premiums?

Wow that's scary. Ten percent is like a fraction of what they've been going up every year since Obama signed that turd. At this point ten percent very well could be a rounding error they've been going up so much.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 30, 2017 06:33 PM (4ErVI)

138 Islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof and beats him to death
Posted by: rd at November 30, 2017 06:27 PM (4dz1m)

Oh, those fun-loving scamps. We should bring them here, as we don't have enough murderous assholes here now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 30, 2017 06:33 PM (YqDXo)

139 That clip includes the Creepy Dude recording her, for the 'Ettes.

Posted by: Ace at 05:52 PM
---------

Thanks, ace. You're all heart.

Posted by: bluebell at November 30, 2017 06:33 PM (UoSKV)

140 I wonder how long Trump stood on McCain's oxygen hose before the old bastard caved.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 30, 2017 06:34 PM (4ErVI)

141 The extended wii fit girls video is well worth a watch. Especially if you're an ass man.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 30, 2017 06:34 PM (NWiLs)

142 #102 yes...but.

There have been a lot of studies showing the deflationary pressure of technology. One curious thing about the treasury flushing all that money into the economy was that it barely moved growth, and inflation stayed at close to zero. This is the exact opposite of what theory predicted, leading many to believe that, but for the massive dose of capital, we would have had a massive depression.

The opposite point of view is that we are in a permanent and deepening depression - assets and prices are being pushed down faster and faster due to technology. That is the cause of the malaise, not the housing bust of 9 years ago. The problem will only continue to get worse going forward.

I love the fed discussing raising interest rates...Why? What inflation are we trying to prevent? What is the reasoning? Sell off the crap on your balance sheet at a discount if you have to - it is all pretend QE money anyway.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at November 30, 2017 06:35 PM (fftfA)

143
I used to watch H.4.1 and the other crap all the time.

I haven't paid attention in a while, but I was just looking. The Fed still has $1.7T of MBS (mortgage backed crap) on its balance sheet. And $2.5T of Uncle debt.

Hell, I remember when they hit this milestone, and they still are, the largest single holder of federal debt. Meaning the printing press has supplied the largest single fraction of US debt.

In absolute terms, that's about 12.5% of total debt. In terms of debt held by the public, the real money (not counting intragov debt, which is the faux IOUs for SS and the other trust funds) borrowed, is $14.9T.

So that's about 17% of that outright monetized. Round that to 20%, and you can say roughly that 1 out of every 5 dollars Uncle Sam owes is taken up by the printing press (digital press, of course).

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at November 30, 2017 06:35 PM (8O3HH)

144 I'm just a little worried that losing the local tax and home mortgage deductions may drive the suburbs, which were trending Democrat already, further Left, and that people will leave states like NY & NJ to swing states like PA & OH and turn them blue.

Posted by: josephistan at November 30, 2017 06:35 PM (ANIFC)

145 Especially if you're an ass man.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 30, 2017 06:34 PM (NWiLs)

One of those sentences where punctuation is VERY important...

a simple comma changes the whole meaning...

Posted by: Don Q. at November 30, 2017 06:36 PM (NgKpN)

146 Wow, I just listened to our president talk about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on national television, I don't remember any president evoking the real meaning of Christmas in my life time that way, it was amazing.

Posted by: spypeach at November 30, 2017 06:36 PM (myc22)

147 Creepy dude?

That would be just about all of us.

Posted by: Country Boy - resurrected so many times even Jesus would be proud at November 30, 2017 06:36 PM (5hokv)

148 140
I wonder how long Trump stood on McCain's oxygen hose before the old bastard caved.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 30, 2017 06:34 PM (4ErVI)
That's a great visual. :-)

Posted by: Peaches at November 30, 2017 06:36 PM (14URa)

149 Franken and McCain swapping roles. Man, I pity the woman old Juan tongue rapes.

And, ladies, you're welcome for THAT mental image.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 30, 2017 06:38 PM (xQfPr)

150 >>After careful thought and consideration, I have decided to support the
Senate tax reform bill. I believe this legislation, though far from
perfect, would enhance American competitiveness, boost the economy, and
provide long overdue tax relief for middle class families," McCain said
in a statement.

See, I told you all I had this.
Before I came along he would have fucked you all again as usual.

Posted by: John McCain's Brain Tumor at November 30, 2017 06:38 PM (2cuLk)

151

Remember when we believed we had a Christian president in George Bush?

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 30, 2017 06:38 PM (DOaBg)

152 My local Congresscritter's Take on this. I know some of you think this is political dynamite, but Tom McClintock has some valid points:

https://mcclintock.house.gov/newsroom/vote-notes/hr-1-house-tax-reform-bill-no

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 30, 2017 06:40 PM (ujg0T)

153
Tell me again why we thought a methodist was some devout Christian??

Oh that's right, because Fake News made Bush out to be some born again Pentecostal-type.

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 30, 2017 06:40 PM (DOaBg)

154 146 Wow, I just listened to our president talk about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on national television, I don't remember any president evoking the real meaning of Christmas in my life time that way, it was amazing.
Posted by: spypeach at November 30, 2017 06:36 PM (myc22)

Trump is a throwback to attitudes of the 1950's and 1960's.

His policies would be right at home in an Eisenhower or JFK administration. Remember "Operation Wetback?" JFK tax reforms?

Trump is a liberal Democrat from the 1950's. That is how far our nation has fallen.

Posted by: rd at November 30, 2017 06:41 PM (4dz1m)

155 There have been a lot of studies showing the deflationary pressure of technology. One curious thing about the treasury flushing all that money into the economy was that it barely moved growth, and inflation stayed at close to zero. This is the exact opposite of what theory predicted, leading many to believe that, but for the massive dose of capital, we would have had a massive depression.

The opposite point of view is that we are in a permanent and deepening depression - assets and prices are being pushed down faster and faster due to technology. That is the cause of the malaise, not the housing bust of 9 years ago. The problem will only continue to get worse going forward.

I love the fed discussing raising interest rates...Why? What inflation are we trying to prevent? What is the reasoning? Sell off the crap on your balance sheet at a discount if you have to - it is all pretend QE money anyway.
Posted by: Dean Wormer

I don't think you can control a diversified economy from the top down. Period. You want a stimulus - you have to pump the cash all the way down to the individual and let them burn it. Tax cuts, cheap energy, low healthcare costs, etc. are how government can grow the economy. Credit controls are a fantasy.

Posted by: Jean at November 30, 2017 06:41 PM (yM/Yl)

156 The extended wii fit girls video is well worth a watch. Especially if you're an ass man.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 30, 2017 06:34 PM (NWiLs)

Oh yes......ass, cash or grass. Nobody rides for free.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 30, 2017 06:41 PM (MeM4j)

157 If we actually had a party of ball breaking bastards, we'd be out there playing up how forcing Conyers out is fucking racist as hell because they're not making any noises about Franken.

Of course, the real reason is they're not worried about the Conyers seat. It's in deepest Africa, also known as Detroit, so they'll elect another rubber stamping retard. They are, however, highly worried about the Senate and it's always possible those ball washing Scandi bastards up in Minnesota might get a burr up their ass and send a republican to the Senate.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 30, 2017 06:42 PM (4ErVI)

158 They're lying. They'll stab us in the back. They're democrats. Just like all the the other democrats. and the rinos.

Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2017 06:42 PM (zLDYs)

159 Sen Cotton at the CIA? Yes, please.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 30, 2017 06:42 PM (BoMuO)

160 128 Zombie,

Here is one video,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WB34jAFU-A4

Islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof and beats him to death
Posted by: rd

FInally! Thx. Can see it.

Posted by: zombie at November 30, 2017 06:43 PM (42M22)

161 Does Rex Tillerson ride a yarmulke?

Posted by: Perchik at November 30, 2017 06:43 PM (fSf/G)

162 What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 30, 2017 06:44 PM (oVJmc)

163 The DJIA spiked 332 points to close over 24,000 for the first time in history.

This only goes to prove that President Barack Insein Obama was holding back the US economy so the rich could maintain their unequal status.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at November 30, 2017 06:45 PM (e8kgV)

164 144 I'm just a little worried that losing the local tax and home mortgage deductions may drive the suburbs, which were trending Democrat already, further Left, and that people will leave states like NY & NJ to swing states like PA & OH and turn them blue.
Posted by: josephistan at November 30, 2017 06:35 PM (ANIFC)

Moreover, what kind of people zealously look for all the deductions they can find? Republicans, that's who.

I wish the bill authors did not buy into the "revenue neutral" nonsense that caused them to ax these important deductions, and just cut spending and watch the resulting economic growth pay off the debt.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 30, 2017 06:45 PM (ujg0T)

165 162 What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?

I wondered the same thing, but then turned it around. What if the illness has freed him from whomever owned him?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 30, 2017 06:45 PM (kUmUV)

166 What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?

It is always a good time for graft.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 30, 2017 06:46 PM (BoMuO)

167 162
What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 30, 2017 06:44 PM (oVJmc)
Just spitballing but, state funeral? And Trump's already contacted Hanoi about hosting it.

Posted by: Peaches at November 30, 2017 06:46 PM (14URa)

168 Other thing Laura Ingram was saying today was Tillerson wasn't going with Trumps wishes and was fighting him at appointments. And a few sources of hers at the State Department thought he should go.

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2017 06:47 PM (aC6Sd)

169 Posted by: Jean at November 30, 2017 06:41 PM (yM/Yl)

We actually had a depression.... if you take the artificial money from both quantitative easing, and Federal Deficit spending out... the GDP actually decreased for a number of years.

They masked it in order to fool the populace about how bad off we were... so they could keep their damn jobs.,

Posted by: Don Q. at November 30, 2017 06:47 PM (NgKpN)

170 I assume opening up that part of ANWR will be a nice big pot of graft and pork headed her way that the Alaskan Republican Machine will get to dole out to who they see fit.
Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 30, 2017 06:19 PM (z/Ubi)

North Slope is drying out. Need to maintain the flow.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 30, 2017 06:47 PM (Rw8Ov)

171 Rex Tilleson was president of the BSA when they caved to the gay agenda. F'em with a rusty tent pole.

Posted by: freaked at November 30, 2017 06:47 PM (UdKB7)

172 So if if the tax bill passes will it help correct or keep agoing the stock market? I'd hate to dump my paltry savings into a mutual fund right when it corrects, but it's earning nada in the bank.

Posted by: dartist at November 30, 2017 06:47 PM (nisXv)

173 What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?

Maybe trying to save the last shreds of his reputation before the tumah boxing match is over?

I know I'm going to hell for that one.

Posted by: Infidel at November 30, 2017 06:48 PM (Ix4M6)

174 What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Twenty Hail Marys

Posted by: Jean at November 30, 2017 06:48 PM (yM/Yl)

175 The DJIA spiked 332 points to close over 24,000

Remember Election Night, when they forecast the immediate adjustment was an unrecoverable crash in the making.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 30, 2017 06:48 PM (oVJmc)

176 Tillerson refused to send high level state department officials to support Ivanka on her trip to India.

Breitbart, and others, I think.

Posted by: Too Slow, Too Old, I am at November 30, 2017 06:48 PM (KdDCu)

177 Massachusetts joins the parade... with a twist.

https://tinyurl.com/ybzd2lgm

Posted by: tu3031 at November 30, 2017 06:49 PM (O5Q3r)

178 >>What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?

No clue.

Posted by: The Big Guy at November 30, 2017 06:49 PM (/tuJf)

179 ass girl needs to turn around, show her face

Posted by: runner at November 30, 2017 06:50 PM (QC/4S)

180 175 The DJIA spiked 332 points to close over 24,000

Remember Election Night, when they forecast the immediate adjustment was an unrecoverable crash in the making.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 30, 2017 06:48 PM (oVJmc)

I believe that was Paul Krugman, former Enron adviser.

He also said that Trump's election would cause a drop in the stock market that would be permanent.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 30, 2017 06:50 PM (4ErVI)

181 176
Tillerson refused to send high level state department officials to support Ivanka on her trip to India.

Breitbart, and others, I think.

Posted by: Too Slow, Too Old, I am at November 30, 2017 06:48 PM (KdDCu)
Trump could easily be behind that. I don't think he's any happier with her than the rest of us are.

Posted by: Peaches at November 30, 2017 06:50 PM (14URa)

182 Remember Election Night, when they forecast the immediate adjustment was an unrecoverable crash in the making.

==

i will never trust their judgement again!

Posted by: runner at November 30, 2017 06:51 PM (QC/4S)

183 Re:173

>What kind of bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?

Repealing the death tax.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 30, 2017 06:51 PM (tSYB0)

184 >>>What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?<<<

None. John McCain craves the spotlight and is a drug-addled mavericky maverick who is running on muscle memory and ego.

Posted by: Fritz at November 30, 2017 06:52 PM (wx3l0)

185 So... much... winning!

Damn, we're out of popcorn!

Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 30, 2017 06:52 PM (Gs5TH)

186 If ya pull away from that video, noob.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 30, 2017 06:53 PM (xInes)

187 What kind of bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?

--

Maybe McCain is just tired and confused. Had a bad day. Some staffer wrote the statement and sent it out to the the media.

Posted by: Too Slow, Too Old, I am at November 30, 2017 06:53 PM (KdDCu)

188 Is the bill going through with the revocation of the individual mandate?

I think it is because NBC was freaking out about it, but I want to be sure because I hate that fucking mandate with the heat of a million suns.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 30, 2017 06:53 PM (4ErVI)

189
I remember reading several pieces trying to spit ball just what the real hit to US GDP would've been if the system had been allowed to properly reset (as it should).

That is, all the worthless dog crap on the balance sheets, the stuff that the market was realizing was worthless (all these mortgage backed shit, etc, caused by spending money you didn't have and couldn't really pay back).

Had that been allowed to proceed, it would be another Great Depression. I've seen estimates of 20% or better hit to GDP (nobody really knows, these were just educated spitballing).

And that is of course, something they could not allow to happen. Everything that was done was to keep that crash from happening. I believed at the time, and still do, that it just delayed the inevitable reset and makes it even worse when it comes.

But economics is part laws of physics and part psychology. At some point, reality asserts itself. But the delusions can go on for a long time.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at November 30, 2017 06:53 PM (8O3HH)

190 176 Tillerson refused to send high level state department officials to support Ivanka on her trip to India.

Breitbart, and others, I think.
Posted by: Too Slow, Too Old, I am at November 30, 2017 06:48 PM (KdDCu)

Well.. just what Office was she elected to? or appointed to?

Is she a Federal Employee? Part of the State Dept?

Or.... is she Princess Invanka? who is only there because of her Daddy?

I really did not like the Kennedy's Political Dynasty... I did not like the Bush's...

Why should I like Trump's? She should be off running her business... not the countries... we did not elect HER.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 30, 2017 06:53 PM (NgKpN)

191 Rex Tilleson was president of the BSA

I rode a 1958 BSA Goldstar out of Stalag 17.

Posted by: Steve McQueen at November 30, 2017 06:55 PM (fSf/G)

192 Nood.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 30, 2017 06:55 PM (O5Q3r)

193 And that is of course, something they could not allow to happen. Everything that was done was to keep that crash from happening. I believed at the time, and still do, that it just delayed the inevitable reset and makes it even worse when it comes.

But economics is part laws of physics and part psychology. At some point, reality asserts itself. But the delusions can go on for a long time.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at November 30, 2017 06:53 PM (8O3HH)

Problem is that they used a bunch of money to support the economy...

But then did not fix anything... all that toxic debt is still out there...

Posted by: Don Q. at November 30, 2017 06:55 PM (NgKpN)

194 "What kind of a bribe could tempt a guy who's terminally ill with brain cancer?"

Name something after him. His ego is so huge it will survive him.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 30, 2017 06:57 PM (cu8/f)

195 Zombie,

You should figure out why Twitter is giving you such trouble.

I am running an iPad, plain vanilla, and can just click on a twitter nametag, and go to their twit page. I can see the videos and all that stuff on their page.

I am not enrolled in Twitter or facebook, or any of that crud.

I do have local cookies enabled, and I think I have Java enabled. Other than that, my security settings are pretty paranoid.

Posted by: rd at November 30, 2017 06:57 PM (4dz1m)

196 To give Ronaldus Magnus his due, Carter left him an economy that was in far worse shape than the economy Barry left to Trump. During the Carter administration, the inflation rate topped at 13.x%, while the prime rate was just shy of 20%. It took all of 1981 and most of 1982 to wring out that killer inflation rate. The Republicans in the House and Senate were crushed in the 1982 mid-terms. It wasn't until early 1984 that it was self-evident to the voters that it was truly "morning in America".

Posted by: mrp at November 30, 2017 06:57 PM (Pqytn)

197
47 "Not being able to deduct state taxes is going to f'ing HURT, but at least I'll have a schadenboner to rub.)"

I'm in NYC. I've likened this to calling in an artillery strike on my own position.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 30, 2017 06:07 PM (cAXIk)

As with most things in life, The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries apply.

Maxim 20: If you're not willing to shell your own position, you're not willing to win.

Unfortunately, another maxim also applies.

Maxim 57: Artillery exists to launch large chunks of budget at an enemy it cannot actually see.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 30, 2017 06:59 PM (eXA4G)

198 >>>Why should I like Trump's? She should be off running her business... not the countries... we did not elect HER.<<<

Why can't we just let her take our hot lunch program and fine-tune it for starving third world orphans?

Posted by: Fritz at November 30, 2017 06:59 PM (wx3l0)

199 I finally saw what girl everyone has been talking about, I thought it wss a link put up by someone

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2017 07:00 PM (aC6Sd)

200 Maxim 20: If you're not willing to shell your own position, you're not willing to win.

Unfortunately, another maxim also applies.

Maxim 57: Artillery exists to launch large chunks of budget at an enemy it cannot actually see.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 30, 2017 06:59 PM (eXA4G)

However, when you call in the strike on your own position, you and your men are well dug in so the enemy overrunning you is actually hit, no?

I fear, sadly, a good many of us itemizers will be hit by this, and yes, we vote Right.

They could have taken out those egregious features, and said growth matters and F*** that "revenue neutral" lie.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 30, 2017 07:02 PM (ujg0T)

201 189
And that is of course, something they could not allow to happen. Everything that was done was to keep that crash from happening. I believed at the time, and still do, that it just delayed the inevitable reset and makes it even worse when it comes.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at November 30, 2017 06:53 PM (8O3HH)

I think you're exactly right. That's why I'm not cheering the stock market climbing ever higher. It will inevitably crash at some point, and the longer it takes the worse it will be.

And mouth-breathing idiots will blame "capitalism".

Posted by: rickl at November 30, 2017 07:05 PM (sdi6R)

202 Don Q and publius,

Did y'all even look at my charts?

Tinyurl above

Posted by: MAGA at November 30, 2017 07:05 PM (LnOh3)

203 201 189
And that is of course, something they could not allow to happen. Everything that was done was to keep that crash from happening. I believed at the time, and still do, that it just delayed the inevitable reset and makes it even worse when it comes.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at November 30, 2017 06:53 PM (8O3HH)

I think you're exactly right. That's why I'm not cheering the stock market climbing ever higher. It will inevitably crash at some point, and the longer it takes the worse it will be.

And mouth-breathing idiots will blame "capitalism".
Posted by: rickl at November 30, 2017 07:05 PM (sdi6R)

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I think we are headed for 100,000 in the stock market.

Posted by: MAGA at November 30, 2017 07:06 PM (LnOh3)

204 I can't itemize anyway. If I can avoid the Obamacare uninsured penalty, that would be cool.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 30, 2017 07:10 PM (cu8/f)

205 I want to hear Mary Cloggenstein's take on what she thinks is Trump's most recent perfidy.

Posted by: jmel at November 30, 2017 07:13 PM (OeWgo)

206 177 Massachusetts joins the parade... with a twist.

https://tinyurl.com/ybzd2lgm
Posted by: tu3031 at November 30, 2017 06:49 PM (O5Q3r)

BOSTON (CBS/AP) — Democratic Senate President Stan Rosenberg says he’s taking seriously a report that his husband Bryon Hefner sexually assaulted and harassed several men, including some with business before the Legislature.

A damn BIG twist.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 30, 2017 07:14 PM (YqDXo)

207 >>> his husband Bryon Hefner sexually assaulted and harassed several men, including some with business before the Legislature.

Oh girlfriend, stoooooooop! That's so like the fags I know and love!

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 30, 2017 07:20 PM (cu8/f)

208 To give Ronaldus Magnus his due, Carter left him an economy that was in far worse shape than the economy Barry left to Trump. During the Carter administration, the inflation rate topped at 13.x%, while the prime rate was just shy of 20%. It took all of 1981 and most of 1982 to wring out that killer inflation rate. The Republicans in the House and Senate were crushed in the 1982 mid-terms. It wasn't until early 1984 that it was self-evident to the voters that it was truly "morning in America".
Posted by: mrp at November 30, 2017 06:57 PM (Pqytn)

The youngsters here have no fucking idea what a pile of shit stagflation was, starting with Landslide Lyndon's Great Society scam while conducting a war, then Tricky Dick's wage and price control clusterfuck, Gerald Ford's Whip Inflation Now nonsense which didn't do a goddam positive thing, followed by Adultery of the Heart's malaise mania and coal strikes. Reagan said fuck that shit and it's never been like that since, although the apparatchiks definitely fudged some numbers in the last eight years to prop up the legacy of Cock Curious.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 30, 2017 07:28 PM (y7DUB)

209 "20 I believe commentors in the thread below are saying McCain will say he supports the bill, only to vote against it at the vote. "

Now this would make sense. I was wondering why he didn't shaft us again.

(I'm assuming I would be shafted. I don't really know how the bill will affect me. Probably will shaft me, lol.)

Posted by: Alana at November 30, 2017 07:32 PM (o3d0j)

210 wow. California is lost.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2017 07:33 PM (/tuJf)

211 Kate Steinle's illegal immigrant murderer found not guilty of murder.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2017 07:35 PM (/tuJf)

212 29 >>So if this bill passes, we get a tax cut and repeal of the ObamaCare Individual Mandate?

>>Plus possible drilling in ANWR?

Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet. If it passes, it goes to conference committee with the House and whole new bill gets created and then has to pass both Houses again.

Still, big step.

Posted by: JackStraw

Make sure you let me know when. Meanwhile is it a problem if I suck one while I'm waiting?

Posted by: Barry at November 30, 2017 07:44 PM (0ecq3)

213 I have my house on the market. Based on guesses in the media, the 500K mortgage deduction cap may cost me a 2%-5% reduction in sale price. I'm OK with it. If it doesn't happen, the market driven reduction may be a lot more when the rest of the boomer cohort heads south and .... the rising generation generally can't afford the elevated asking price. Like health care costs and college costs, sooner or later something is going to pop. It certainly is overdue for those sectors. Better for my kid's generation to put the brakes on housing cost escalation. Plus, nobody has ever justified the subsidy by fly-over land America of the Acela bubble and West Coast enclaves' lifestyles and expensive and intrusive governments.

Posted by: chuckR at November 30, 2017 07:54 PM (9qifp)

214 Corker, Flake and a couple of others are trying to sink it with last minute amendments. Fine, I'm good with a shutdown. We'll get a better bill after the midterms.

Posted by: ck at November 30, 2017 09:16 PM (GXRoa)

215
"That's like the easiest, gimmie-est demand ever. I'm not sure why we weren't acting on that already."

hello, for just that reason :p you don't 'gimme' bargaining chips

Posted by: docweasel at December 01, 2017 06:55 AM (Made5)

216 McRINO is voting for it? They need to go back and tweak it some until he's against it.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 01, 2017 11:12 AM (+9AX9)

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