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Robert Mugabe Deposed (or At Least "Sidelined" By Military) After 37 Years of Tyrannical Rule

I did not see this coming. Yid With Lid reminds us we have Jimmy Carter to thank for Mugabe.


Both he and his wife have been "detained," which is a bad position for a dictator to be in.

Residents along the streets of this capital city grappled with a new reality Wednesday after the military sidelined President Robert Mugabe, its leader for the past 37 years.

Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites, the 93-year-old's tenure in recent years has been marked by human rights abuses and economic collapse in what was once one of the African continent's most promising and prosperous nations.

"Mugabe was president since I was born," said Kudakwashe Gore, 32, a mechanic. "He was spoiling his legacy by failing to pass on the baton."

Military forces detained Mugabe, the world's oldest head of state, and his wife, Grace Mugabe, 52, and placed them under house arrest early Wednesday after weeks of political tumult rocked the nation.

"I am excited that the Mugabe dictatorial era has come to an end," said George Makoni, 37, a media advocacy officer at a non-governmental organization. "I am also afraid this political uncertainty could lead to anarchy and chaos if not properly managed."

The video that auto-plays with that second article has a representative from the military saying that Mugabe is only detained for his own "security" while they round up the "criminals" around him.

Yeah I don't know about that.

Posted by: Ace at 06:44 PM




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1 I have not heard much about this, but the reports seemed mixed.

Posted by: Pick-up lines for the stupid at November 15, 2017 06:43 PM (rb1zT)

2 I am not one of the nearby criminals by the way.

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 15, 2017 06:43 PM (oi+xg)

3 Off sock.

On the one hand, they say they have him in custody, but he is in no danger. It smells by turns either a coup or Erdogan's 'Coup'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 15, 2017 06:44 PM (rb1zT)

4 2 I am not one of the nearby criminals by the way.
Posted by: weirdflunky at November 15, 2017 06:43 PM (oi+xg)

Yeah, that could work as a pick up line.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 06:44 PM (ANIFC)

5 Both he and his wife have been "detained," which is a bad position for a dictator to be in.


Uh oh.

Posted by: Zombie Nicolae Ceausescu at November 15, 2017 06:44 PM (60v4h)

6 Ivanka is on Air Force One to make sure all the pedophiles of Africa burn in hell.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 06:45 PM (g4lFK)

7 This is not going to work out well for the Mugabe family. I'm a little distraught.

Posted by: Peaches at November 15, 2017 06:45 PM (14URa)

8 Give him a Jimmy Carter necklacing.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (r9UYA)

9 Stick a fork in him.

Posted by: Idi Amin and J. B. Bokassa at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (y87Qq)

10 Looking up "See You In Hell" by Grim Reaper.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (GsAUU)

11 Good; what he did to Zimbabwe is criminal. Its a beautiful country - had our honeymoon there.

Posted by: IC at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (a0IVu)

12 5 Both he and his wife have been "detained," which is a bad position for a dictator to be in.


Uh oh.
Posted by: Zombie Nicolae Ceausescu at November 15, 2017 06:44 PM (60v4h)

Do they have some sturdy lamp posts handy?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (rb1zT)

13 He was spoiling his legacy by failing to pass on the baton.

Yeah that's what's spoiling the murderous Marxist f*ck's legacy. The lack of a transition plan.

Posted by: breadbasket to basketcase at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (wpC7C)

14 Another look at investing in the Zimbabwe currency?

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (g4lFK)

15 It's old.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (60v4h)

16 37 years . . . he had a good run.

Posted by: Barry S. at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (14URa)

17 Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites

--Totally something worth heralding.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 06:46 PM (GsAUU)

18 Either the deposed vp or head of miitary in charge going forward. No way they can reinstate Mugwamp.

They'd be dead before sundown.

Muckluck is finished.

Caucescu anyone?

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 15, 2017 06:47 PM (oi+xg)

19 That's what happens when you don't bank offshore and buy a Greek island to retire on.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 15, 2017 06:47 PM (Ktb8D)

20 Women never lie.

Posted by: Ivanka Humpalot at November 15, 2017 06:47 PM (GsAUU)

21 One might wonder is this a sign of the worm turning?

Nah.

Posted by: freaked at November 15, 2017 06:47 PM (UdKB7)

22 Greetings:

But it's kind of neat that his name, Mugabe, rhymed with the name of his country, Zimbabwe.



Posted by: 11B40 at November 15, 2017 06:48 PM (evgyj)

23 We have Al Capone detained for his own protection while we round up the criminals around him.

Posted by: Treasury Dept Spokesman at November 15, 2017 06:48 PM (cGz5Q)

24 So his wife was 52?

He's 41 years older than her? So when she was 14 he was..uh oh.

Posted by: Max Power at November 15, 2017 06:48 PM (q177U)

25 Didn't they spot aliens recently? It's aliens.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 15, 2017 06:48 PM (6Ll1u)

26 1979-80 was a bad time.

Chinks invaded Vietnam, Sandinista's overtook Nicaragua, The Shah deposed in Iran and Barack Obama became president for life in Zimbabwe.

Thanks Jimmy Carter, you brain dead ass head.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 15, 2017 06:48 PM (nUkMr)

27 >>Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites

Now heralded for killing and driving white people from the country and returning it to its 3rd world shit hole status.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 06:48 PM (/tuJf)

28 Something if only the right people were in charge something something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at November 15, 2017 06:49 PM (8Zprg)

29 He is 93 and his wife is 52?
That's friggin' Biden style.

Posted by: wth at November 15, 2017 06:49 PM (HgMAr)

30 He's 61 years older than his wife?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)

31

The video that auto-plays with that second article has a representative
from the military saying that Mugabe is only detained for his own
"security" while they round up the "criminals" around him.

Yeah I don't know about that.
---
Probably the same video floating around earlier where they said it wasn't a coup, they were just locking up corrupt officials.


And then midday, it was revealed his scandalously younger jailbait wife was the leader of the corrupt officials being arrested (i.e. she was setting up her base to rule from in the even something happened to Bob).


I don't think you get rid of the dictator's wife, without his permission, and let him call the shots again. I mean if you don't want to get shot.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (XQvuQ)

32 Idi Amin sends his regards.

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (oi+xg)

33 I have a Zimbabwean 100 Trillion Dollar Banknote.

Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (Sfs6o)

34 Maybe it's some kind of trick, like Erdogan pulled.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (/qEW2)

35 Oops, 41 years

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)

36 How does white privilege fit into Mugabe's legacy and story?

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (nBr1j)

37 I'll believe he's gone when they're having him for dinner.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (O5Q3r)

38 Another barky hero bites the dust. Chavez ,Mugabe and soon Maduro.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (lpY/K)

39 26 1979-80 was a bad time.

Chinks invaded Vietnam, Sandinista's overtook Nicaragua, The Shah deposed in Iran and Barack Obama became president for life in Zimbabwe.

Thanks Jimmy Carter, you brain dead ass head.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 15, 2017 06:48 PM (nUkMr)


--and that Afghanistan thing. Although in retrospect, maybe not so bad if Spetsnaz had more run.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (GsAUU)

40 My Grace is sufficient unto me.

Posted by: R.G.M. at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (QE8X6)

41 How come his name is Robert and not D'Brickashaw or Tupac or something down?

Posted by: Barry S. at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (14URa)

42 37 years is the half life for Jimmy Carter cock ups? Iran next?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (tbOMB)

43 Also, smooth move, Jimmuh Cattuh.
Set up a dictator who turns a prosperous country into Detroit.

Democrat politicians flock together, worldwide.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (Ktb8D)

44 He turned the breadbasket of Africa into a howling desert. But hey, he sure showed those imperialist white farmers something.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (ppaKI)

45 Did they find a few trillion ZimbabweBucks in his freezer?

Posted by: wth at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (HgMAr)

46 Slowly at first then all at once

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (QLvwG)

47 Has his wife sent emails out yet?

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (nBr1j)

48 Saw this on a morning post somewhere. Can't remember which blog though. Think it was around 6AM Central.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (gC2IV)

49 Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites



--Totally something worth heralding.
---
Also the number of 0's on his currency, reflecting the size of his dick.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (XQvuQ)

50 24 So his wife was 52?

He's 41 years older than her? So when she was 14 he was..uh oh.
Posted by: Max Power at November 15, 2017 06:48 PM (q177U)


The rules are different for dictators.

Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (sdi6R)

51 I wish I could say I was shocked, that Leahy questioned Judge Willett about once tweeting that he wanted to marry bacon.

Aaaaiiiiiieeeeeee!!!!

Let us start with the Twitter bio for Judge W, where he says he is extravagantly blessed by his marriage and his three children.

Fuck right off, Pat.

Posted by: Shopgirl: Happy 103rd Bday, Buck O'Neil!! at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (RKRXr)

52 Thank goodness Mugabe wasn't reported as being in exile.

Posted by: Fritz at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (z+9vu)

53 ace, my husband and I are hosting a Zimbabwean student this year through an organization my husband belongs to.

Kid doesn't seem to worried about his family right now.

Anyhow, I have a brief history (brief dating) with a young Rhodesian rancher back in the day (way back), so my feelings about Mugabe can't be typed here.

We'll have to see what plays out. Mugabe's wife is an evil bitch (Winnie Mandela evil), so hopefully she'll disappear.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (PY9jH)

54 "Mugabe was president since I was born," said Kudakwashe Gore, 32, a mechanic. "He was spoiling his legacy by failing to pass on the baton."

========

Thank goodness Obama didn't make the same mistake. I wonder if he's a relative of Al.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 06:52 PM (/qEW2)

55 He's lucky he and his wofe haven't been put up against a wall, yet...

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (LiyEm)

56 As I understand, the Army is basically the collection of thugs that put Mugabe into power (ditto the "veterans" organization there). Expecting the flower of democracy to bloom from that pile of manure is a bit much. They might get a less vicious and less greedy dictator. Maybe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (oPNmq)

57 43 Also, smooth move, Jimmuh Cattuh.
Set up a dictator who turns a prosperous country into Detroit.

Democrat politicians flock together, worldwide.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (Ktb8D)


Birds of a shitfeather flock together, Randy.

Posted by: Jim Lahey at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (GsAUU)

58 to - too

sigh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (PY9jH)

59 http://bit.ly/2jsOh0f are
Roy Moore Enemy Comes Forward, Says Sex Charges Are Complete Bust

Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (y3aQB)

60

*hands over eyes*
*pretends cigarette smoke*
*throat slash with thumb*

Posted by: Mandela funeral sign language guy at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (89T5c)

61 Waiting for, 'the bitch set me up',...

Posted by: redenzo at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (5wSNN)

62 OT: WSJ: NFL is accussing Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones, of...get this...damaging the league.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (Enq6K)

63 I can't even proclaim myself "Dictator for Life" in my own freaking house and these dickbags get their own country.

Talk about underachieving. Hell, I'm even slacker than I thought.

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (oi+xg)

64 He invited the white folk to come back and farm (since he turned the breadbasket of Africa into a country begging the UN to send food)

Mugabe promised not to kill and/or steal from evil white man as quickly as before. What's the problem?

Posted by: illiniwek at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (/aIFg)

65 So if he lives three more years, Mugabe comes into compliance with the half-your-age-plus-seven guideline?

Posted by: JPS at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (k+zWn)

66 Merry Christmas, President and Mrs. Mugabe!

Posted by: Nicolai and Elena Ceaucescu at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (zCyNd)

67 I'll believe he's gone when they're having him for dinner.
---
In a related story there is an outbreak of ebola among the cocktail circuit elites of Zimbabwe...

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (XQvuQ)

68 Another sex scandal -- except this time it's all the sextillions Mugabe stole.

(I'm admittedly reaching for a pun. Probably underestimating, too.)

Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (zkGZ8)

69 Military forces detained Mugabe, the world's oldest head of state, and his wife, Grace Mugabe, 52


clearly he must be hounded from power... for chasing much younger womenz.....

Posted by: Follow the Meme..... at November 15, 2017 06:55 PM (NgKpN)

70 Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites, the 93-year-old's tenure in recent years has been marked by human rights abuses and economic collapse in what was once one of the African continent's most promising and prosperous nations.

========

Well, you know Khan said. It's better to reign in hell than share power with "white elites".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 06:55 PM (/qEW2)

71 62 The ther owners never liked Jerry Jones and they are taking the opportunity to stab him in the back.

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 06:55 PM (LiyEm)

72 Bad news for Hilary if an actual dictator can be brought to justice.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 15, 2017 06:55 PM (xJa6I)

73 Mugabe's wife was arrested and held in S. Africa not long ago for "striking" (beating) her son's girlfriend.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 06:55 PM (PY9jH)

74 I love the way they say his regime has been marked with human rights abuses and economic disaster "in recent years."
Yeah, like it was ever decent.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 15, 2017 06:55 PM (0jtPF)

75 Birds of a shitfeather flock together, Randy.
Posted by: Jim Lahey at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (GsAUU)

the winds of shit.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 15, 2017 06:56 PM (hcyUh)

76 The wheels of justice grind exceedingly slow, but they also grind exceedingly small.

Posted by: ALH at November 15, 2017 06:56 PM (MYss1)

77 68 Another sex scandal -- except this time it's all the sextillions Mugabe stole.

(I'm admittedly reaching for a pun. Probably underestimating, too.)
Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (zkGZ


--That was pretty good.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 06:56 PM (GsAUU)

78
How come his name is Robert and not D'Brickashaw or Tupac or something down?


Posted by: Barry S. at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (14URa)

Because he's authentically black?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 06:56 PM (oPNmq)

79 Have another empanada, Senor Maduro.

Posted by: wth at November 15, 2017 06:56 PM (HgMAr)

80 Little known fact. In Mugabe's early days of tyranny, he welcomed the North Korean army to help round up and "discipline" his opponents.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 06:57 PM (PY9jH)

81 And to think, Mugabe was a finalist for this year's GQ Man of the Year award along with Bowe Bergdahl and the guy that shot up the Republican softball team.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 15, 2017 06:57 PM (ppaKI)

82 Well one good thing is Hillary isn't going to be queen for 37 years. Unless most of that comes in corpse form.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 06:57 PM (nBr1j)

83 Have another empanada, Senor Maduro.

Posted by: wth at November 15, 2017 06:56 PM (HgMAr)


Avoid the waffer thin ones!

Posted by: Mr. Creosote at November 15, 2017 06:57 PM (QLvwG)

84 69
Military forces detained Mugabe, the world's oldest head of state, and his wife, Grace Mugabe, 52





clearly he must be hounded from power... for chasing much younger womenz.....

Posted by: Follow the Meme..... at November 15, 2017 06:55 PM (NgKpN)


Gets worse. He had a development deal with the Weinstein Company. Ian Smith to be portrayed by Kevin Spacey.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 15, 2017 06:57 PM (zCyNd)

85 Roy Moore Enemy Comes Forward, Says Sex Charges Are Complete Bust





Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (y3aQB)

I had a complete bust, too, thanks to Howard Hughes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 06:58 PM (oPNmq)

86 75 Birds of a shitfeather flock together, Randy.
Posted by: Jim Lahey at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (GsAUU)

the winds of shit.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 15, 2017 06:56 PM (hcyUh)

--Every fucking one of them, shit moths.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 06:58 PM (GsAUU)

87 Willowed:

The Florida serial killer is *not* a Dexter type. It's a black guy shooting white guys in the back. Tampa Bay papers have the part of the police description where they state the killer's race, but the NY Post left that out of the description.

LUN for GunFreeZone's post about it.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 06:58 PM (fVubI)

88 Has the imbecilic media written hagiographic articles gushing about his 37 years in office.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 06:58 PM (nBr1j)

89 It's going to be an early night.

Posted by: Bill When at November 15, 1980 06:52 PM (fa433)


First the losing the WHO nomination, now this?


45
Did they find a few trillion ZimbabweBucks in his freezer?

Posted by: wth at November 15, 2017 06:51 PM (HgMAr)

Nothing but long pig.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 06:58 PM (tbOMB)

90 33 I have a Zimbabwean 100 Trillion Dollar Banknote.
Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (Sfs6o)



How much of a piece of penny candy can you get with that?

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 15, 2017 06:59 PM (z/Ubi)

91 OT: WSJ: NFL is accussing Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones, of...get this...damaging the league.
---
Jones isn't particularly supporting Goodell's contract extension, so this story about declaring Jones to have forfeit the Cowboys comes out.

If he hadn't knelt, I'd care.

As it is, tear each other apart. It's what you lot deserve.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 06:59 PM (XQvuQ)

92 Well one good thing is Hillary isn't going to be queen for 37 years. Unless most of that comes in corpse form.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 06:57 PM (nBr1j)


She's always been the Queen of my doublewide.
*sshhh Energizer Bunny, I'ma troweling it on thick here to keep her off guard*

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (QLvwG)

93 5 democrat representatives are trying to file impeachment charges on President Trump.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: ALH at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (MYss1)

94 87 Ah,so he is the kind of serial killer that will get no publicity....

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (LiyEm)

95 Roy Moore Enemy Comes Forward, Says Sex Charges Are Complete Bust


Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (y3aQB)

I read that TWICE as Sex ChaNges.

I need to step away from the computer screen....

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (Enq6K)

96 Looks cartoonish like a Marvel Super Villain.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (g4lFK)

97
They might get a less vicious and less greedy dictator. Maybe.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Probably just a younger one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (IqV8l)

98 Groo has met many dictators, criminals and scum in his travels. This Mugabe fellow sounds pretty bad, despite his awesome first name.

Posted by: Groo at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (w+Jhj)

99 Maybe we can send Carter to negotiate for his release.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (yL25O)

100 After Mugabe downed three Viagra and busted a nut, it wasn't difficult for military forces to apprehend him while he was fleeing on his weakened prosthetic knees.

Posted by: Fritz at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (z+9vu)

101 Caucescu anyone?

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 15, 2017 06:47 PM

Preference cascades popping off all over the place. Saudi Arabia and now the Monster Mugabe.

Posted by: Lester at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (LfJIn)

102 How embarassing. Mis-sockulation.

Posted by: Jane Russell at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (oPNmq)

103 90 33 I have a Zimbabwean 100 Trillion Dollar Banknote.
Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 06:50 PM (Sfs6o)


How much of a piece of penny candy can you get with that?
Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 15, 2017 06:59 PM (z/Ubi)
--------
I did the math. It's worth about 5 cents.

Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (Sfs6o)

104 I can picture Obama and Mooch living in some African country as dictator and nasty wife for life.

I'm sure he's imagined his leopard skin attire.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (PY9jH)

105 Rush pointed out today that Roy was a Democrat when this all supposedly occurred.

Posted by: freaked at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (UdKB7)

106 Held for his own protection. Just like Ceausescu

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (SjImc)

107 After careful consideration, I've decided not to return.

Posted by: Little Mrs Spellcheck at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (5xRXp)

108 In a related story there is an outbreak of ebola among the cocktail circuit elites of Zimbabwe...

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (XQvuQ)
............

friggin' Barry always crashing the parties.

Posted by: wth at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (HgMAr)

109 62 OT: WSJ: NFL is accussing Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones, of...get this...damaging the league.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (Enq6K)
-----------------------------
Gaaah.
The world is turned upside down when I am rooting for the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Effing Jones.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (0jtPF)

110 104 I can picture Obama and Mooch living in some African country as dictator and nasty wife for life.

I'm sure he's imagined his leopard skin attire.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (PY9jH)

Baraka Khan

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (nBr1j)

111 As always, Steyn has the best take:

https://www.steynonline.com/8254/butcher-bob-out-of-his-job

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (GsAUU)

112
Alternate post title:

Robert Mugabe Deposed And Also Accuses Roy Moore Of Groping Him In 1986

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (PeVdw)

113
87 Ah,so he is the kind of serial killer that will get no publicity....

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (LiyEm)


Like the black TN church shooter.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (PY9jH)

114 The Florida serial killer is *not* a Dexter type. It's a black guy
shooting white guys in the back. Tampa Bay papers have the part of the
police description where they state the killer's race, but the NY Post
left that out of the description.
---
So just another DNC/Establishment type promoting the glorious revolution.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (XQvuQ)

115 One of his first acts as ruler was to invite the North Koreans in and eliminate a rival tribe in the north. They still find bodies ...

Posted by: Adriane the Historical Critic ... at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (AoK0a)

116 Actually I did see it coming but didn't know when the website date was. If one goes to these blogs there is a next website button, I often go to the next, and next and next. One had something on this the other day but as I wrote didn't seem to interested to look when it was posted. These websites are from all over the world many in Africa.

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (aC6Sd)

117 It is clear that Mr. and Mrs. Mugabe are in legitimate fear for their safety.

Asylum/refugee status?

Expedited diversity visa?


Posted by: Obama holdover at November 15, 2017 07:03 PM (zCyNd)

118 Ah,so he is the kind of serial killer that will get no publicity....

Yep.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:03 PM (fVubI)

119 WSJ: NFL is accussing Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones, of...get this...damaging the league.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (Enq6K)
-----------------------------
Gaaah.
The world is turned upside down when I am rooting for the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Effing Jones.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (0jtPF)

Good let the nfl keep imploding.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2017 07:03 PM (SjImc)

120 107 To where?

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 07:03 PM (LiyEm)

121 And Mark will be on Tucker's show tonight.

Wednesday is awesome.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:03 PM (GsAUU)

122 110 104 I can picture Obama and Mooch living in some African country as dictator and nasty wife for life.

I'm sure he's imagined his leopard skin attire.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (PY9jH)

Baraka Khan
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (nBr1j)

The Circle Jerk of Life

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 15, 2017 07:04 PM (oi+xg)

123 Mugabe's wife obviously didn't go the Suha Arafat's seminar for How to survive a Dictator and keep your billions.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 15, 2017 07:04 PM (lpY/K)

124 Posted by: Groo at November 15, 2017 07:00 PM (w+Jhj)

MENDICANT!!!!!

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:04 PM (XQvuQ)

125 the american media had almost no coverage of mugabe's brutal tyranny, but the british reported extensively on his corruption and criminality. it was pretty open and despicable.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 15, 2017 07:04 PM (AxFdW)

126 119 WSJ: NFL is accussing Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones, of...get this...damaging the league.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 06:54 PM (Enq6K)
-----------------------------
Gaaah.
The world is turned upside down when I am rooting for the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Effing Jones.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (0jtPF)

Good let the nfl keep imploding.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2017 07:03 PM (SjImc)

The last nail in the coffin. The NFL may still have a pulse but get somebody to read the last rites.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 07:04 PM (nBr1j)

127 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (0jtPF)


I found pearl onions at Walmart the other day...in the produce section with the garlic.

Do you have a special recipe for them...or should I just grab one off the interwebs?

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (Enq6K)

128 >>Gaaah.
The world is turned upside down when I am rooting for the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Effing Jones.

The only reason Jerry is going after Goodell is because Goodell suspended his star running back.

It has nothing to do with the protest no matter what he claims.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (/tuJf)

129 BBC has an article up that is headlined: Mugabe: Hero or villain?

Another one has this headline: Did Mugabe go too far?

Posted by: Glenn John at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (LilNs)

130 Watched the press conference with Moore's lawyer on Youtube.

Allred should be pissing her pantsuit.

Posted by: Mr. Roy Peebles at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (oVJmc)

131 Mugabe was one of the villains in Lion King right?

That or the new black panther movie. Zimbabwe could have been a modern day Wakanda, if not for the influence of the evil white capitalistic pigs!

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (hvf9s)

132 59 http://bit.ly/2jsOh0f are
Roy Moore Enemy Comes Forward, Says Sex Charges Are Complete Bust

Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (y3aQB)

Luther Strange's campaign says its all bullshit. And yet DC persists.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (g4lFK)

133 Mrs. Mugabe looks like she could bring any ficus back to life.

Posted by: Peaches at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (14URa)

134 122
110 104 I can picture Obama and Mooch living in some African country as dictator and nasty wife for life.



I'm sure he's imagined his leopard skin attire.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (PY9jH)




Obuto Sese Seko. with the cool hat.

Posted by: fashion Miklos at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (zCyNd)

135 In other news, I almost severed an arm trying to split a *%$# spaghetti squash in two to roast a while ago.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (PY9jH)

136 Mugabe has killed more black people than the GOP in history.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (GsAUU)

137 7 This is not going to work out well for the Mugabe family. I'm a little distraught.


Posted by: Peaches at November 15, 2017 06:45 PM (14URa)


I'm downright Verklempt.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (7UW64)

138 After careful consideration, I've decided not to return.



Posted by: Little Mrs Spellcheck at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (5xRXp)

After a nanosecond's reflection, I have decided that I failed to miss you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (oPNmq)

139 Mugabe is 93, his wife is 53.

You know who else likes younger women?

Posted by: Oedipus at November 15, 2017 07:07 PM (CXLVd)

140 135 In other news, I almost severed an arm trying to split a *%$# spaghetti squash in two to roast a while ago.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (PY9jH)


Squash is poisonous. It must be, to taste like that. And now I find out it wanted to rip your arms off? No way I'm going near it, ever again.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 07:07 PM (7UW64)

141 Mrs. Mugabe looks like she could bring any ficus back to life.


Posted by: Peaches at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (14URa)


See my post up-thread. She's another Winnie Mandela. Evil and power hungry. Beat her son's girlfriend.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:07 PM (PY9jH)

142 Roy Moore Enemy Comes Forward, Says Sex Charges Are Complete Bust




Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 06:53 PM (y3aQB)

Kinda clickbaitish. Reads like it would absolution from current charges. Actual article is GOPe distancing from damage done.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:07 PM (tbOMB)

143 135 In other news, I almost severed an arm trying to split a *%$# spaghetti squash in two to roast a while ago.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (PY9jH)

Did you hurt yourself, or is this more a "Michelle Fields" type of injury?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 15, 2017 07:07 PM (rb1zT)

144 104 I can picture Obama and Mooch living in some African country as dictator and nasty wife for life.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (PY9jH)


He's not that good. "White guilt" is not gonna get him elected in Africa.

Posted by: Peaches at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (14URa)

145 OT:

Since McConnell has been fucking damn near useless and married to Elaine Chao isn't he an adulterer. Time for an ethics review.

Posted by: DaveA at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (FhXTo)

146 I found pearl onions at Walmart the other day...in the produce section with the garlic.



Do you have a special recipe for them...or should I just grab one off the interwebs?

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (Enq6K)

They have to be vigorously clutched.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (oPNmq)

147 the american media had almost no coverage of mugabe's brutal tyranny, but the british reported extensively on his corruption and criminality. it was pretty open and despicable.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 15, 2017 07:04 PM (AxFdW)


Yes, he was a brutal dictator who operated with impunity. Human rights abuses and all. Since he'd gotten away with it for 30 years, I bet he thought he'd cruise into old age as dictator. I thought so too.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (gg/Vm)

148 One of his first acts as ruler was to invite the North Koreans in and eliminate a rival tribe in the north. They still find bodies ...

Really? I'd have thought the NorKs would have shipped those home to feed the civilians.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (fVubI)

149 "Republicans! Did you enjoy Election Night last week? Get ready for a lot more nights like that as immigration turns every last corner of the country blue."

--Damn, Ann Coulter is good.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (GsAUU)

150 136
Mugabe has killed more black people than the GOP in history.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (GsAUU)


Clearly, he should be Supreme Diety of Chicago.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (tbOMB)

151 135 In other news, I almost severed an arm trying to split a *%$# spaghetti squash in two to roast a while ago.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:06 PM (PY9jH)

They are a bitch, aren't they!? I'm on the short size so I have to tip toe to get enough leverage to split one with a knife.

Then I get the knife stuck...then I swear like a banshee...then I hope my husband walks by.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (Enq6K)

152 >>> In a related story there is an outbreak of ebola among the cocktail circuit elites of Zimbabwe...

Can we move them all to Madagascar, let the bubonic plague sort them out?

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (hvf9s)

153 The only reason Jerry is going after Goodell is because Goodell suspended his star running back.

Another blue on blows fight.

Posted by: DaveA at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (FhXTo)

154 DaFuq

Posted by: Michelle Fields' remaining arm at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (oi+xg)

155 107 After careful consideration, I've decided not to return.
Posted by: Little Mrs Spellcheck at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (5xRXp)


Are you from there?

Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (sdi6R)

156 Carter is another one with pretend brain cancer.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (r9UYA)

157 I've secretly turned the heat down to 63 degrees. Let's see if WesselWoman notices.

Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (Sfs6o)

158 129 BBC has an article up that is headlined: Mugabe: Hero or villain?

Another one has this headline: Did Mugabe go too far?
Posted by: Glenn John at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (LilNs)


Compare and contrast with articles on, oh, say, ISRAEL...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (mbhDw)

159 The only reason Jerry is going after Goodell is because Goodell suspended his star running back.

It has nothing to do with the protest no matter what he claims.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (/tuJf)

Link/ proof?

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM and CenTexMoMee survivor at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (95Kc0)

160 I should have said cruised to his death bed as dictator...since he is already 93.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (gg/Vm)

161 One of the biggest criminals around Mugabe, besides his wife, is HIM.

This is known as misdirection.

Good for them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (hVoJQ)

162 >>> I found pearl onions at Walmart the other day...in the produce section with the garlic.
Do you have a special recipe for them...or should I just grab one off the interwebs? Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (Enq6K)

Yum!! You can buy them in the frozen section with peas sometimes, that is delicious. But fresh would be great. Simmer them with fresh peas or green beans and some bacon?

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (hvf9s)

163
And Mark will be on Tucker's show tonight.

Wednesday is awesome.
Posted by: logprof


Uighur Wednesday

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (IqV8l)

164 It would be unsurprising to learn that the generals that deposed Mugabe bring the Chinese in to get the Zim economy going again. The end can't come soon enough for the old savage, one of the many reasons Hell is keeping a room ready for Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Monty James at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (gKOMX)

165 "person of interest"

Posted by: bluebell at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (UoSKV)

166 157
I've secretly turned the heat down to 63 degrees. Let's see if WesselWoman notices.

Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (Sfs6o)
She's talking to her lawyer about it now. 63? Are you Canadian?

Posted by: Peaches at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (14URa)

167 160 I should have said cruised to his death bed as dictator...since he is already 93.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (gg/Vm)


Ciao, Ciao, Ceaucescu...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (mbhDw)

168 157 Let's see if WesselWoman notices.

Is she a nuclear wessel woman?

Posted by: Checkhov at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (sGtp+)

169 I read about the Ezekiel Elliot suspension when it first happened.Seems a female investigator interviewed the victim and recommended no punishment.She was than left out of the loop when the NFL decided to suspend him 6 games.

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (LiyEm)

170 I've secretly turned the heat down to 63 degrees. Let's see if WesselWoman notices.
Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (Sfs6o)


lol
Ah, the thermostat wars between women and men. Married or not.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (gg/Vm)

171 They are a bitch, aren't they!? I'm on the short size so I have to tip toe to get enough leverage to split one with a knife.



Then I get the knife stuck...then I swear like a banshee...then I hope my husband walks by.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (Enq6K)


I'm shortish too, so yeah. I have good knives, and I still couldn't split it. Got it partially cut through, and husband came home just in time. Then HE had a time with it.


I read that I could microwave it after it had been pierced, but I've had one of "those" days and was afraid it would explode and destroy the microwave.


Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (PY9jH)

172 Obama probably got the trillion dollar coin idea from Mugabe.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (g4lFK)

173 Grace reminds me of Frederika Wilson but with better hats.

Posted by: wth at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (HgMAr)

174 They have to be vigorously clutched.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 07:08 PM (oPNmq)


That's what Joe Biden said, to the 10 year old he was groping.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (7UW64)

175 Let justice be done, in this world and the next.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (BfOXk)

176 Posted by: Checkhov at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (sGtp+)
-------
Oops

Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (Sfs6o)

177 I found pearl onions at Walmart the other day...in the produce section with the garlic.


Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (Enq6K)


Sad. And they were just beginning to turn their chives around.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (tbOMB)

178 Compare and contrast with articles on, oh, say, ISRAEL...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (mbhDw)

That is different.

Israel is a liberal democracy.
Freedom of religion and speech.
Cutting edge in the sciences and business development.
Very hot female soldiers.

What was I talking about again?


Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (rb1zT)

179 I've secretly turned the heat down to 63 degrees. Let's see if WesselWoman notices.
Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (Sfs6o)
-----------

She will notice. We women have finely calibrated internal thermostats.

Posted by: bluebell at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (UoSKV)

180 Mugalupucuss kicked to the curb at the same time as Billy Jeff.

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (oi+xg)

181 I knew Bob Mugabe and you're no Bob Mugabe!

Posted by: Reverund Jaaaackson at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (Tyii7)

182 Link/ proof?
---
You saw the video of Jones doing the linked arm, kneeling bullshit thing for solidarity with the revolutionaries before the Monday night game, right?

He doesn't get to come back from that and be treated as sincere without at least cutting the players that instigated it.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (XQvuQ)

183 After careful consideration, I've decided not to return.

Posted by: Little Mrs Spellcheck at November 15, 2017 07:02 PM (5xRXp)


#MeToo

Posted by: Gen. Douglas MacArthur, Deceased at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (oVJmc)

184 165 "person of interest"
Posted by: bluebell at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (UoSKV)

Great show. Highly recommend.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (g4lFK)

185 156 Carter is another one with pretend brain cancer.


Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (r9UYA)


That's all there is in there, between those nasty ears. Just cancer. Has been, since about 1960.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 07:13 PM (7UW64)

186 Big news: super close to a bipartisan breakthrough on gun legislation. Stay tuned... - Chris Murphy

-BB

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 07:13 PM (r9UYA)

187 Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites, the 93-year-old's tenure in recent years has been marked by human rights abuses and economic collapse in what was once one of the African continent's most promising and prosperous nations.


Toldja.

Posted by: Zombie Ian Smith at November 15, 2017 07:13 PM (YqDXo)

188 The shame is Africa is so corrupt they all just get replaced by another corrupt politician Or General

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (aC6Sd)

189 Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:09 PM (Sfs6o)

Have you got the spare blanket and pillow ready for the couch?

Cause she'll know.

You know she will. Why do you do this to yourself?

Death wish? Masochism? Flirting with disaster? Is the make up sex that good?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (hVoJQ)

190 163
And Mark will be on Tucker's show tonight.

Wednesday is awesome.
Posted by: logprof

Uighur Wednesday
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (IqV8l)

--Steyn, Coulter, and Sailer.

Sailer has an excellent column about hate hoaxes today.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (GsAUU)

191 She's talking to her lawyer about it now. 63? Are you Canadian?
Posted by: Peaches at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (14URa)
-----------
I had to dig out my woobie, and I'm upstairs with all the heat molecules!

Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (Sfs6o)

192 These people are still alive:

Jimmy Carter
Mugabe
John McCain
Hairy Reed
Nancy Pelosi

and now my mind has gone blank

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (PY9jH)

193 I'm shortish too, so yeah. I have good knives, and I still couldn't split it. Got it partially cut through, and husband came home just in time. Then HE had a time with it.

I read that I could microwave it after it had been pierced, but I've had one of "those" days and was afraid it would explode and destroy the microwave.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (PY9jH)



You should try what I do. Get a big cutting board and place the spaghetti squash on top. Carry the cutting board over to the trash and throw that rabbit food away.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (tbOMB)

194 >>Link/ proof?

http://tinyurl.com/y76lb46g

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (/tuJf)

195 188 The shame is Africa is so corrupt they all just get replaced by another corrupt politician Or General

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (aC6Sd)


Why, it's almost as if....

Well, you know the drill. The problem with Africa, is that it is full of Africans.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (7UW64)

196 173 Grace reminds me of Frederika Wilson but with better hats.
Posted by: wth at November 15, 2017 07:11 PM (HgMAr)


I love Mugabe's outfit in the DM article. Just the thing to wear to a dog fight, or if you're trying to be noticed by search and rescue.

Posted by: Zombie Ian Smith at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (YqDXo)

197 127---
I found pearl onions at Walmart the other day...in the produce section with the garlic.

Do you have a special recipe for them...or should I just grab one off the interwebs?
Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (Enq6K)
-----------------------------
Walmart!!!
I haven't looked there!
Thanks!
I've found some but not enough yet.

I do not have a recipe really. I cover them (barely) with water and boil until soft. Reserve the stock.
Add some cream and butter. A Tbsp of flour or so to thicken the sauce.
Put onions in shallow casserole --- I use a 9x11 pyrex---and cover with sauce. Then cover with saltine cracker crumbs. Drizzle with melted butter. Bake 30-45 min until browned. (Time depends on oven temp, which may depend on whatever else you're cooking at the same time!)

There is a very similar dish on Allrecipes dot com that will have more precise directions.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (0jtPF)

198 Big news: super close to a bipartisan breakthrough on gun legislation. Stay tuned... - Chris Murphy
---
It sure is a good thing we have a republican run congress. We definitely can't afford to let a single seat switch hands.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (XQvuQ)

199 Remember, all my groovy babies, "Bipartisan" means "Grab BOTH ankles!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (hcyUh)

200 188
The shame is Africa is so corrupt they all just get replaced by another corrupt politician Or General

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (aC6Sd)
Much like California . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 15, 2017 07:16 PM (14URa)

201 Gotta finish dinner.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:16 PM (PY9jH)

202 She will notice. We women have finely calibrated internal thermostats.





Posted by: bluebell at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (UoSKV)



And butts and feets that scientists calibrate their cryogenic instruments with.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:16 PM (tbOMB)

203 192 These people are still alive:

Jimmy Carter
Mugabe
John McCain
Hairy Reed
Nancy Pelosi

and now my mind has gone blank
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (PY9jH)



How can you possibly omit the Worst Person on the Face of the Earth - George Soros?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:16 PM (YqDXo)

204 Hi, Bobby.

Have a seat.

Posted by: Satan at November 15, 2017 07:17 PM (GsAUU)

205 How can you possibly omit the Worst Person on the Face of the Earth - George Soros?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:16 PM (YqDXo)


And I left off Crazy Joe Biden.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:17 PM (PY9jH)

206 Soros probably gets transfusions of blood from late term aborted infants every day to prolong his life.

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 07:17 PM (LiyEm)

207 Err...ah...Robert! Good to see you, pal! Care for a Hot Toddy?

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Ted Kennedy at November 15, 2017 07:19 PM (Tyii7)

208 "MENDICANT!!!!!


Posted by: Methos"

You're lucky my swords are being cleaned. And Chakaal is in town.

Posted by: Groo at November 15, 2017 07:19 PM (w+Jhj)

209 >>> Soros probably gets transfusions of blood from late term aborted infants every day to prolong his life.
Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 07:17 PM (LiyEm)

My way not good enough?

Posted by: Elizabeth Bathory at November 15, 2017 07:19 PM (hvf9s)

210 >>>Gets worse. He had a development deal with the Weinstein Company. Ian Smith to be portrayed by Kevin Spacey.

LMAO!!!

Posted by: Max Power at November 15, 2017 07:19 PM (q177U)

211 Fuck it's cold in here!

Posted by: Weaseldog at November 15, 2017 07:19 PM (gC2IV)

212 Well, you know the drill. The problem with Africa, is that it is full of Africans.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (7UW64)

And the problem with Africans is that they're.... human.

It's so easy to forget just how unnatural and weird and, frankly, inhuman, the western civilized order of things is.

Just look at the shitshow dumpsterfire three-cock-ring circus that America is already (even if only superficially) turning back in to. Or what Western Europe and the UK have turned themselves into.

barbarianism and kleptocracy are the natural order of things, not the exception.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 15, 2017 07:20 PM (hcyUh)

213 Big news: super close to a bipartisan breakthrough on gun legislation. Stay tuned... - Chris Murphy
-

Ah, the Uniparty. All for one, and one for all. Pathetic.
And screw the rubes and peasants - us. We are the problem.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:20 PM (gg/Vm)

214 There is a video on YouBoob somewhere of the dictator for Liberia back in 1990 who was captured and beaten then questioned and then tied to a pole and shot with M1 Garands.

Samuel K. Doe I think it was. Not to be confused with Ernie K Doe.

His killer, Prince Johnson, is still around I think.

You can't make this shit up.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 15, 2017 07:21 PM (nUkMr)

215 How can you possibly omit the Worst Person on the Face of the Earth - George Soros?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:16 PM (YqDXo)

Satan's waitin'

Posted by: Satan at November 15, 2017 07:21 PM (GsAUU)

216 Mugabe condemned the Dentist that shot a lion, then Later that night he had roasted Baby Elephant for a banquet. Yes They ate a Baby Elephant.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2017 07:21 PM (dKiJG)

217
211 Fuck it's cold in here!
Posted by: Weaseldog at November 15, 2017 07:19 PM (gC2IV)
-------
WD has wormed her way under the blanket with me.

Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:21 PM (Sfs6o)

218 104 I can picture Obama and Mooch living in some African country as dictator and nasty wife for life.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:01 PM (PY9jH)



Nah, he's too lazy.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 07:22 PM (pY+s4)

219 Guess what i did today? Almost ripped this lady's arm off! Haha!

Posted by: A Spaghetti Squash at November 15, 2017 07:22 PM (gC2IV)

220 Very hot female soldiers.

What was I talking about again?


Posted by: Aetius451AD



It's that damn sekrit joo mind control again. Every time you think about the very beautiful ladies of the IDF, you forget what you were

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 07:22 PM (JtBPN)

221 197 I cover them (barely) with water and boil until soft. Reserve the stock.
Add some cream and butter. A Tbsp of flour or so to thicken the sauce.
Put onions in shallow casserole --- I use a 9x11 pyrex---and cover with sauce. Then cover with saltine cracker crumbs. Drizzle with melted butter. Bake 30-45 min until browned.


Can't be a casserole if it ain't gots tuna.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 15, 2017 07:22 PM (sGtp+)

222 Yes They ate a Baby Elephant.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
________

One bite at a time?

Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 07:22 PM (zkGZ8)

223 barbarianism and kleptocracy are the natural order of things, not the exception.
---
It's almost like there was a certain set of values, generally opposed by human nature, that's necessary for this to work right.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:23 PM (XQvuQ)

224 212 Well, you know the drill. The problem with Africa, is that it is full of Africans.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (7UW64)

And the problem with Africans is that they're.... human.

It's so easy to forget just how unnatural and weird and, frankly, inhuman, the western civilized order of things is.

Just look at the shitshow dumpsterfire three-cock-ring circus that America is already (even if only superficially) turning back in to. Or what Western Europe and the UK have turned themselves into.

barbarianism and kleptocracy are the natural order of things, not the exception.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 15, 2017 07:20 PM (hcyUh)



Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run? I'll take a city, a state, a country, whatever. Looks to me like they're ALL train wrecks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (JMKQF)

225 Weasel, I'll share my 70 degrees with you.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (lpY/K)

226 And butts and feets that scientists calibrate their cryogenic instruments with.


I just read about a pair of slippers that stay toasty warm. I think you charge them via a usb port or something. Bookmarked for later.

What a wonderful thing to have first thing in morning after leaving the cozy warm bed. May have to purchase. When I run to make coffee I'm always shivering.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (gg/Vm)

227 It was only promising when it was called Rhodesia.

But that all changed with Mugabe.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (4ErVI)

228 216 Mugabe condemned the Dentist that shot a lion, then Later that night he had roasted Baby Elephant for a banquet. Yes They ate a Baby Elephant.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2017 07:21 PM (dKiJG)

I... could not do that. Elephants cross that line of cute and intelligent.

Dennis Leary:
To the Otter- "You may go."
To the Cow- "Get on the fucking truck!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (rb1zT)

229 Nah, he's too lazy.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 07:22 PM (pY+s4)

The people wouldn't have it, man. They'd all be saying, "Who's this beige muthaf**** trying to boss us around?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (hcyUh)

230 222 Yes They ate a Baby Elephant.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio


It gets worse. Google "Charles Taylor" and "cannibalism."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (JMKQF)

231 198 Big news: super close to a bipartisan breakthrough on gun legislation. Stay tuned... - Chris Murphy

Who was that super-obnoxious totally-not-respect-authority guy that got banned a few times but swore up and down he would see Republicans support gun-confiscation in his lifetime ? Same idiot that swore Republicans would be complicit in impeaching Trump ?

God ... that dude was an asshole. Wish Maet was still around to ban him. Again.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (RtT0l)

232 Weasel, I'll share my 70 degrees with you.

Posted by: Ben Had
________

Count me in for 6 more.

Posted by: Kevin Bacon at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (zkGZ8)

233 Jimmy Carter
Mugabe
John McCain
Hairy Reed
Nancy Pelosi

and now my mind has gone blank

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (PY9jH)

Here, I'll help:

And Breitbart is dead.

The fickle finger of fate sure do f**k the righteous it seems at times. Like for the last 40 years. I wish I'd been born about 10 years earlier. Woulda been a good life. Not all this insanity and angst.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (hVoJQ)

234 I just read about a pair of slippers that stay
toasty warm. I think you charge them via a usb port or something.
Bookmarked for later.




Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (gg/Vm)


Thanks for the gift idea for mama flounder.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (tbOMB)

235 I called Zimbabwe Jimmy Carter's Iran till I remembered Iran is Jimmy Carter's Iran.

Posted by: MIK at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (4Mh8b)

236 My sci-fi movie if I made one would be these old leaders are able to outlive the population by a few hundred years with transfusions of organs, drugs, and whatever.
But I don't write stories or make movies

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (aC6Sd)

237 195 188 The shame is Africa is so corrupt they all just get replaced by another corrupt politician Or General

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:14 PM (aC6Sd)


Why, it's almost as if....

Well, you know the drill. The problem with Africa, is that it is full of Africans.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (7UW64)

There is a good article LEFT AFRICA FAIL, ace posted it a while back. They need to fall flat on their face in order to pick themselves up, it's going to be messy but it might be the only way.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (dKiJG)

238 You're lucky my swords are being cleaned. And Chakaal is in town.


Posted by: Groo at November 15, 2017 07:19 PM (w+Jhj)

Cool.
I don't like to fight.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:26 PM (XQvuQ)

239 Link/ proof?
---
You saw the video of Jones doing the linked arm, kneeling bullshit thing for solidarity with the revolutionaries before the Monday night game, right?

He doesn't get to come back from that and be treated as sincere without at least cutting the players that instigated it.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (XQvuQ)

Just heard about it, actually. I agree with you, just hadn't heard that reasoning anywhere.

Stupid phone.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM and CenTexMoMee survivor at November 15, 2017 07:26 PM (95Kc0)

240
225 Weasel, I'll share my 70 degrees with you.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (lpY/K)
---------
Thanks Ben Had!

Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2017 07:27 PM (Sfs6o)

241 Africa is extorting EU right now. In a nutshell, investment (Slush fund) or they'll unleash more migrants into Europe.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:27 PM (gg/Vm)

242 Jim Jones had a lot of friends in the Carter administration.

Then there's John Wayne Gacy...

The last one is kind of a cheap shot though because it was a picture of him in his clown attire with Rosalynn Carter at some fundraiser. It's not like she helped him kill all those boys. As far as we know, anyway.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 07:28 PM (4ErVI)

243 Didn't they just jail an NGO SJW for calling bob "sick"?

Posted by: DaveA at November 15, 2017 07:28 PM (FhXTo)

244 >>> You should try what I do. Get a big cutting board and place the spaghetti squash on top. Carry the cutting board over to the trash and throw that rabbit food away.

Funny, flounder. I've been eating a lot of squashes and zucchini lately though, when done right is fabulous. Baked a lovely butternut the other day!

I've been on a kick of replacing noodles with squash over the past few months. Splurge the saved calories on really good ingredients like cheese and butter, makes it light and flavorful. The trick is to cook or salt the squash enough that you get all the water out. Once you do that it tastes fabulous. Watery zucchini squash lasagna, for example, is bleh. To fix that I salt the slices of zucchini and grill them before I layer the lasagna.

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:28 PM (hvf9s)

245 Kevin Bacon ...
1. Apollo 13
2. Tom Hanks
3. Sleepless in Seattle
4. Seattle Slew
5. Horse
6. FireHorse

(Whew. Sock off.)

Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 07:28 PM (zkGZ8)

246 After 37 Years of Tyrannical Rule

...Hillary would have been 107.

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 07:29 PM (7ulel)

247 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run? I'll take a city, a state, a country, whatever. Looks to me like they're ALL train wrecks.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (JMKQF)

Eqypt?

But they don't consider themselves African but Eqyptian and they will fight you about it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2017 07:29 PM (dKiJG)

248 My sci-fi movie if I made one would be these old leaders are able to outlive the population by a few hundred years with transfusions of organs, drugs, and whatever.
But I don't write stories or make movies
Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM (aC6Sd)


Years ago I began reading a book based on that very premise. Kind of the elites vs. the people. It was so dark, disturbing, and realistic, I had to stop reading.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:29 PM (gg/Vm)

249 Yes They ate a Baby Elephant.



Posted by: Patrick From Ohio



It gets worse. Google "Charles Taylor" and "cannibalism."

Forget it, Jake, It's...Africa.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 15, 2017 07:30 PM (O5Q3r)

250 You saw the video of Jones doing the linked arm, kneeling bullshit thing for solidarity with the revolutionaries before the Monday night game, right?

He doesn't get to come back from that and be treated as sincere without at least cutting the players that instigated it.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:12 PM (XQvuQ)


Agreed. I have not forgotten that, and I never will. F the NFL.



Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at November 15, 2017 07:30 PM (T71PA)

251 242
Jim Jones had a lot of friends in the Carter administration.



Then there's John Wayne Gacy...



The last one is kind of a cheap shot though because it was a picture of him in his clown attire with Rosalynn Carter at some fundraiser. It's not like she helped him kill all those boys. As far as we know, anyway.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 07:28 PM (4ErVI)



Judges?

Judges: It is not the lack of evidence that matters. It is the severity of the allegations.


We'll allow it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:30 PM (tbOMB)

252 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:24 PM (JMKQF)


It's the ideology not the race. Jason Riley wrote a book I'm planning on buying called "False Black Power?" That deals with the subject matter.

Anyway imo it's all philosophical, if black run cities, states etc. held classic liberal policies and ideology you'd be foolish not to go there.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:30 PM (IYHxL)

253 Dicks out for Mugabe!

Posted by: Afroman at November 15, 2017 07:30 PM (e1A/T)

254 I'm surprised he's got a 52 year old wife. I'd have expected he'd trade in for a couple of 26's.

Posted by: George LeS at November 15, 2017 07:31 PM (+TcCF)

255 >>Eqypt?

Talk about a low bar.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 07:31 PM (/tuJf)

256 222
Yes They ate a Baby Elephant.



Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

________

Baby elephant jerky is delicious....but not as good as baby jerky.

Posted by: Idi Amin at November 15, 2017 07:32 PM (n3hky)

257 Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:28 PM (hvf9s)


I will take your word for it, but I will respectfully decline. If I were a superhero - and I am not saying I am not - squash would be my arch enemy, I think.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:32 PM (tbOMB)

258 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run?

Ethiopia, before Islam.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:32 PM (fVubI)

259 >>> >>>Gets worse. He had a development deal with the Weinstein Company. Ian Smith to be portrayed by Kevin Spacey.

Spacey was also set to play Gore Vidal, romantically helping a much younger man explore his sexuality. (No really, it's true!) Here's hoping that is one movie that NEVER comes to pass.

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:32 PM (hvf9s)

260 What difference does it make? He's so old he farts dust, he's practically dead anyway. He's already long since wrecked the country, and on the one hand he's killed and dispossessed so many people that whoever replaces him has no hope of reconciliation, and on the other hand his supporters and 'war veterans' are still expecting their free shit -- the new guy has a tiger by the tail from day one.

I expect more of the same. There's Mugabe, on the way out, and then there's the Mugabe political infrastructure, still there.

Like somebody here observed here this morning, he probably just couldn't make payroll. It will be interesting to see if he and the missus are just put under house arrest. Considering what he's done, it would be nice if they have something more interesting planned for him.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 15, 2017 07:32 PM (AwHbA)

261 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history

How has Liberia been?

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 07:32 PM (7ulel)

262 Anyway imo it's all philosophical, if black run cities, states etc. held classic liberal policies and ideology you'd be foolish not to go there.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:30 PM (IYHxL)


If people in Hell had ice-water ... it would be much nicer as well.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (RtT0l)

263 236 My sci-fi movie if I made one would be these old leaders are able to outlive the population by a few hundred years with transfusions of organs, drugs, and whatever.
But I don't write stories or make movies
Posted by: Skip



Its been done. Freejack.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (pY+s4)

264 barbarianism and kleptocracy are the natural order of things, not the exception.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 15, 2017 07:20 PM (hcyUh)

You are wrong. This descent into hell has been orchestrated by the left.

We have been driven into tribalism. When it wasn't working as fast they decided to IMPORT more of those who believe in tribalism (and look what shitholes they lived in) so speed up the process.

And this is being done on purpose throughout the Western world by our enemies.

Whereas some countries and continents don't need any help at all and have been cesspools of tribalism and savagery during the entirety of known history.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (hVoJQ)

265 Eqypt?

But they don't consider themselves African but Eqyptian and they will fight you about it.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2017 07:29 PM (dKiJG)

We wuz kaaaaaaaaaangszzzzzzz!!!!

Posted by: Satan at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (GsAUU)

266 Warai: "the shitshow dumpsterfire three-cock-ring circus that America is already"


A newsletter, or a speech-writing gig for some deplorable public figure, surely are in your future.



Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (QDnY+)

267 Damn I thought they would wait until he was at least 95.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (2DOZq)

268 My sci-fi movie if I made one would be these old leaders are able to outlive the population by a few hundred years with transfusions of organs, drugs, and whatever.
But I don't write stories or make movies


Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM


Sounds like "The Organ Draft".

Posted by: otho at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (qGuLD)

269 I was Jimmy Carter's Iran.

Posted by: The Rabbit at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (Tyii7)

270 My sci-fi movie if I made one would be these old leaders are able to outlive the population by a few hundred years with transfusions of organs, drugs, and whatever.
But I don't write stories or make movies


Sarah Hoyt may want to have a word with you...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (fVubI)

271 osted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (RtT0l)

Ok? Not entirely sure what you're getting at?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:34 PM (IYHxL)

272 Don't send these people money. Send them some uhauls to MOVE WHERE THE FUCKING FOOD IS!

Posted by: Zombie Sam Kinnison at November 15, 2017 07:34 PM (gC2IV)

273 Don't forget Zbigniew Brzezinski role in this

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 07:34 PM (9TU00)

274 >>Eqypt?



Talk about a low bar.
---
Dude, Egypt was the shit for a while there.

Posted by: Ammon at November 15, 2017 07:34 PM (XQvuQ)

275 It took 23 years of marriage to earn this right . . .

When squash is served by Mrs Refugee, I always state "That was really delicious . . considering it was squash."

Of course, I always make sure the machete used to cut those non-earthly monsters is out of reach.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 15, 2017 07:34 PM (JyFLk)

276 How has Liberia been?

Revolutions ever few years, with the fighting lasting well past the start of the next one.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:34 PM (fVubI)

277 268
My sci-fi movie if I made one would be these old leaders are able to outlive the population by a few hundred years with transfusions of organs, drugs, and whatever.

But I don't write stories or make movies





Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 07:25 PM





Sounds like "The Organ Draft".

Posted by: otho at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (qGuLD)



And an episode of The Black List, or maybe another movie for which I cannot recall the name.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 07:35 PM (tbOMB)

278 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
________

New York State, 2008-2010.

(Of course, anything would've looked great after Spitzer.)

Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 07:35 PM (zkGZ8)

279 What happened to Liberia I thought it was supposed to be the African version or some such of the US

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:35 PM (IYHxL)

280 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human
history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run?
---
Wakanda

Posted by: S Rodgers at November 15, 2017 07:36 PM (XQvuQ)

281 Reminds me. I love the movie Dogs of War.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:36 PM (2DOZq)

282 But they don't consider themselves African but Eqyptian and they will fight you about it.

Well... modern Egypt is Arabs ruling a native minority (the Copts).

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:36 PM (fVubI)

283 261 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history

How has Liberia been?
Posted by: t-bird



A mess.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 07:36 PM (pY+s4)

284 Ý'all leave my man Robert alone!

Posted by: Harambe lives! at November 15, 2017 07:36 PM (zCyNd)

285 The Organ Grinder.

Job title at the potted meat division of Armour Foods.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:37 PM (NWiLs)

286
Are you still having knee pain?

You should go to Africa. Because that's where the negroes.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 07:37 PM (PeVdw)

287 There is a very similar dish on Allrecipes dot com that will have more precise directions.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 15, 2017 07:15 PM (0jtPF)I


Yeah, check Walmart...I got three bags.

Thank you! I haven't done these before.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:37 PM (Enq6K)

288 241 Africa is extorting EU right now. In a nutshell, investment (Slush fund) or they'll unleash more migrants into Europe.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:27 PM (gg/Vm)


Truly it is the measure of the perceived worth of a people that they can extort money on threat of coming to live with you.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (JMKQF)

289 Accuser, Bev Nelson appeared before Moore in '99.
He dismissed a divorce action she had brought against her husband.

CT/GP

Posted by: gNewt at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (kvb15)

290 285
The Organ Grinder.



Job title at the potted meat division of Armour Foods.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:37 PM (NWiLs)


Not the lap dance chick?

Posted by: gentleman's club at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (zCyNd)

291 Ok? Not entirely sure what you're getting at?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:34 PM (IYHxL)


As soon as I it ... I will believe it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (RtT0l)

292 Didn't Jerry Jones link arms with players during the anthem and take the knee after the song?

Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (zkGZ8)

293
"Organ Draft" was by Silverberg... or Asimov. Can't remember. But, from what I can recall, it was more a Silverberg type story.

Posted by: otho at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (qGuLD)

294 264
We have been driven into tribalism. When it wasn't working as fast they decided to IMPORT more of those who believe in tribalism (and look what shitholes they lived in) so speed up the process.

And this is being done on purpose throughout the Western world by our enemies.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 07:33 PM (hVoJQ)


It's being done by Western leaders, who are just about all white.

And yes, they do appear to be our enemies. What is their endgame, after they succeed in making white people hated minorities in our own countries? I'm having trouble understanding that.

Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (sdi6R)

295 283 261 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history

How has Liberia been?
Posted by: t-bird


A mess.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 07:36 PM (pY+s4)


Exactly. A mess, on a good day. A train wreck most days.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (JMKQF)

296 >>> Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run?

Nubia during the golden age of Ancient Egypt? Though they kept invading and failing, maybe they weren't so great after all. There was, though, a veeeeery small sliver of time when Nubians conquered Egypt and were pharoahs. Part of the somewhat racist but true "We Wuz Kings" meme that Reddit loves.

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:39 PM (hvf9s)

297 What happened to Liberia I thought it was supposed to be the African version or some such of the US

Native tribes kept up their tribal warfare.

There's a reason early 20th-century US culture made fun of the Hatfields and McCoys and their multi-generational feuds. It was a way to show that We Don't Do That Anymore, to help the immigrants understand it and leave the old grudges back home.

Now we've got people carrying on feuds against people whose ancestors weren't even in the country at the time of the supposed offense. And they're the supposedly sophisticated "woke" people.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:39 PM (fVubI)

298 Nigeria I would say is the African country that has made the best run of a bad bunch recently. Their oil reserves did not hurt in the effort.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:40 PM (2DOZq)

299 ALERT: UNDER-NOOD HAS BREACHED THE SONOBI CONTAINMENT UNIT!

ALERT: UNDER-NOOD IN PROGRESS!

Posted by: Max Power at November 15, 2017 07:40 PM (q177U)

300 Africa: Nice place to visit (been there twice), but wouldn't want to live there. Unless I was a bajillionaire (hard currency, not Afro-dollars)

But is it too much to ask that Africa stay African, and the West stay the West?

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:40 PM (GsAUU)

301 I would like a Nubian princess.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at November 15, 2017 07:40 PM (Tyii7)

302 Yum!! You can buy them in the frozen section with peas sometimes, that is delicious. But fresh would be great. Simmer them with fresh peas or green beans and some bacon?

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:10 PM (hvf9s)

I couldn't find any in the frozen section. But people and stock guys were in my way so I could have missed them.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:41 PM (Enq6K)

303 And yes, they do appear to be our enemies. What is their endgame, after they succeed in making white people hated minorities in our own countries? I'm having trouble understanding that.
Posted by: rickl



Utopia stupid!

Duh.... /s

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 07:41 PM (pY+s4)

304 And to clarify my question above, I'm not asking which black-run polity ran well, which one you'd look at and say, "Boy, I'd really like to live there."

I'm asking an easier question: which of the extant such polities is the best run, regardless of how well-run it is in an absolute sense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:41 PM (JMKQF)

305 Can't beat a bowl of creamed onions!

Posted by: George Custer at November 15, 2017 07:41 PM (gC2IV)

306 It's being done by Western leaders, who are just about all white.

And yes, they do appear to be our enemies. What is their endgame, after they succeed in making white people hated minorities in our own countries? I'm having trouble understanding that.


South America -- mostly kleptocracies ruled over by the descendants of Europeans, with a handful of trusted native-descendants to administer/keep under the boot the largely native-descended population.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:42 PM (fVubI)

307 thathalfrican (and a few others here) for the win. Obviously.


And to stretch, but not too much, back to current day issues here in the USA, the assault on the rule of law, and on the unwritten codes of conduct that lie at the base of the world's precious few trust-based societies, have been serious.


I really don't think Sessions, for example, gets that. He is a fine example of integrity, yet he seems not to understand that the wholesale, histrionic, historically unprecedented (for the US) assault on the integrity of our institutions in recent years puts the whole ball game at risk.


Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 07:42 PM (QDnY+)

308 295 283 261 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history

How has Liberia been?
Posted by: t-bird


A mess.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 07:36 PM (pY+s4)

Exactly. A mess, on a good day. A train wreck most days.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (JMKQF)

Failure to pretend it's anything other than an unqualified success is RAAAAACIST!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:42 PM (NWiLs)

309 Truly it is the measure of the perceived worth of a people that they can extort money on threat of coming to live with you.

You've met my family, then?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:43 PM (fVubI)

310 And lets' be honest, the northern part of Africa (around the Mediterranean is a separate sub continent from the rest of Africa. Due to climate and the Sahara as a barrier it evolved separately from the rest of Africa. And with the influence of other Mediterranean civilizations were more sophisticated and cultured than the rest. At least until the Muslims took over.

Certain people like to include it because they can then lay claim to their greater civilized behavior and cultures but they are not the same population as the rest of Africa.

Just as some people go to South Africa and declare they've come home when the number of people taken as slaves from Southern Africa is a small part of the total number of slaves taken from the rest of Africa. But South Africa is more civilized than the more tribal areas to the north. If the Western companies that exploit those countries now were to withdraw, you'd see a rapid descent into tribalism like the surrounding countries already are.

It's the civilizing influence of having to behave so that they can attract Western (and Chinese) money to them that causes them to be more "Civilized" than their brethren.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 07:43 PM (hVoJQ)

311 279 What happened to Liberia I thought it was supposed to be the African version or some such of the US
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:35 PM (IYHxL)

They have some weird hierarchy where if your ancestors weren't from the US you are considered low class.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2017 07:43 PM (dKiJG)

312 Huh? What? What time is it?

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at November 15, 2017 07:43 PM (Tyii7)

313 It's hard to tell if Carter pushed for this because he misjudged the situation, or if he did it intentionally because he knew it would turn into a shitshow and increase the role of the UN and US in international affairs. Ie. is Carter like an LBJ of the international stage?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 07:43 PM (/qEW2)

314 Ethiopia had a good run before the Italians invaded.

I've heard that Ghana and Mali have recently shown promise.

Kush, but that was some time ago.

Does Zamunda count?

Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (zkGZ8)

315 Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (RtT0l)

So it's a black thing and not a left thing? Interesting and thank you for your honesty.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (IYHxL)

316

Parts: The Clonus Horror

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (IqV8l)

317 298 Nigeria I would say is the African country that has made the best run of a bad bunch recently. Their oil reserves did not hurt in the effort.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:40 PM (2DOZq)


I had a Nigerian postdoc who would beg to differ. Among other things, northern Nigeria is Muslim, and goes in big for sharia. Southern Nigeria is apparently about as corrupt as it is possible to be. It makes Chicago look clean as a hound's tooth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (JMKQF)

318 I'm having trouble understanding that.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (sdi6R)


To make it an open economic zone here. To reduce the cost of labor while using all this infrastructure.

And as a bonus ... reduce lower and middle class access to upper class goods and services.

Am I a tin-foil fan ? I guess ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 07:45 PM (RtT0l)

319 Trivia of the day:

The 1950s hit song "Skokiaan" -- which reached the US top ten numerous times in numerous versions by various bands in the early-mid-'50s, was actually a cover version of a decades-old mining song originally sung by the (inhales) "African Dance Band of the Cold Storage Commission of Southern Rhodesia" in what later became (ta da!) Zimbabwe.

This song is basically the only product of Southern Rhodesia that was well-known by the American public.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 07:45 PM (42M22)

320 To be fair, I would not live in South Asia either unless I was a gazillionare. India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal , Sri Lanka, etc are a mess.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (2DOZq)

321 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer

hahaha

Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB)

322 316

Parts: The Clonus Horror

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (IqV8l)

I know I saw this about 10-15 years ago but I remember very little about it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (4ErVI)

323 91 OT: WSJ: NFL is accussing Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones, of...get this...damaging the league.
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Jones isn't particularly supporting Goodell's contract extension, so this story about declaring Jones to have forfeit the Cowboys comes out.

If he hadn't knelt, I'd care.

As it is, tear each other apart. It's what you lot deserve.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 06:59 PM (XQvuQ)
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This... Die NFL Die...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - Not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (d4Jry)

324 Ethiopia is called "black" but Ethiopians (and Somalis, believe it or not) are genetically more Caucasian.

And the Malagasy are Austronesian.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (GsAUU)

325 Failure to pretend it's anything other than an unqualified success is RAAAAACIST!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:42 PM (NWiLs)


'Tis true. Can't criticize the mess it is over there b/c racist. Just like we couldn't impeach Obama for known offenses that others would have been impeached for b/c racist. But Trump, impeach away on less to nothing. Yet, cries of White Supremacy. It's truly insane.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (gg/Vm)

326 316

Parts: The Clonus Horror

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (IqV8l)

Slick Willie: The Clenis Horror

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (NWiLs)

327 Correction: originally performed, not sung. No lyrics in the original version.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (42M22)

328 Shame to hear Liberia kept up with the class thing.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (IYHxL)

329 >>I had a Nigerian postdoc who would beg to differ. Among other things, northern Nigeria is Muslim, and goes in big for sharia. Southern Nigeria is apparently about as corrupt as it is possible to be. It makes Chicago look clean as a hound's tooth.

It's not really getting that much attention but all of Africa is being invaded by Islam. It's always been around in pockets but it is growing bigly.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 07:47 PM (/tuJf)

330 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (JMKQF)

I said bad bunch. Who has done better recently or made the same attempts?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:47 PM (2DOZq)

331 Does Zamunda count?
Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (zkGZ

Ummmm......Yes. Prince Akeem sends his warm wishes and most blessings on high for a blessed evening if you would send him $3,000.00 and your personal information for him to release to your account $250,000 in Zamunda gold certificates redeemable at your local bank or Wally World.

Remain blessed.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 15, 2017 07:48 PM (nUkMr)

332 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer

So Allred's admitting it's forged.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:48 PM (fVubI)

333 I rarely think about Africa. Not a lot goes on there that interests me.

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 07:48 PM (pL6Vz)

334 321 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer

hahaha
Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB)

____

Forgery, real. At this point what difference does it make?

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 07:49 PM (1JAxC)

335 298
Nigeria I would say is the African country that has made the best run of
a bad bunch recently. Their oil reserves did not hurt in the effort.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:40 PM (2DOZq)


Their email works pretty well.

Posted by: Miklos will be rich! at November 15, 2017 07:49 PM (zCyNd)

336 Have you been to the thread down under?

Posted by: Men Atwerk at November 15, 2017 07:49 PM (UdKB7)

337 333 I rarely think about Africa. Not a lot goes on there that interests me.
Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 07:48 PM (pL6Vz)

--What is it Steve Sailer calls it? The Most Important Chart in the World?

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 07:49 PM (GsAUU)

338 I love the new hotness re: Moore by the left and the GOPe (BIRM)...well OK maybe the yearbook is a fake, but that doesn't mean everything else is also fake, you know.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 07:49 PM (1JAxC)

339 333 I rarely think about Africa. Not a lot goes on there that interests me.
Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 07:48 PM (pL6Vz)

Not much there but rape, famine, AIDS, warfare and rape.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:50 PM (NWiLs)

340 I can't remember where I read it but it's the North Sudan Islamic and raids South Sudan for slaves and general murderous assholery?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:50 PM (IYHxL)

341 rarely think about Africa. Not a lot goes on there that interests me.
Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 07:48 PM (pL6Vz

That is exactly what China wants.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:51 PM (2DOZq)

342 Their email works pretty well.

heh

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at November 15, 2017 07:51 PM (Tyii7)

343 A buddy of mine went to South Africa for a vacay. I thought he was fucking nuts. But he said he had an awesome time, very beautiful country. I guess, but there isn't enough beauty in the world to get me on a plane to Johannesburg.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 07:51 PM (1JAxC)

344 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that
yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even
when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer



hahaha
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WE MUST DROP MOORE FROM THE RACE RIGHT NOW

Posted by: Totally honest advice on keeping this vital seat for the GOPe at November 15, 2017 07:51 PM (XQvuQ)

345 People think that Zimbabwe is the successor state to Rhodesia.

Not true.

Zimbabwe is the successor state to Southern Rhodesia.

Northern Rhodesia was actually a separate country, and after declaring itself independent (in '64, I believe) changed its name to Zambia.

After the Zambian breakaway, the British tried to rename Southern Rhodesia as simply
"Rhodesia," but the new name was never formally recognized by any other nation. So technically Zimbabwe was the new name of Southern Rhodesia.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 07:51 PM (42M22)

346 Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 07:49 PM (1JAxC

Allred lied about the woman never meeting More after the incident. Since that's a lie what else is?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 07:52 PM (8+Ozj)

347 Read Kim du Toit's excellent blog Splendid Isolation. He is a proud American of South African birth, lives in the Dallas area now. He has plenty of old posts about why it's time to let Africa sink. A couple of days ago he had a heartbreaking link to a farmer family murdered in SA in the same fashion as the murders of the Boers in Rhodesia. "Boer" means "farmer" in Afrikaans.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at November 15, 2017 07:52 PM (EyS+d)

348 Allred lied about the woman never meeting More after the incident. Since that's a lie what else is?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 07:52 PM (8+Ozj)

___

Fuck you. He still needs to lose.

Posted by: Smart People at GOPe HQ at November 15, 2017 07:53 PM (1JAxC)

349 So it's a black thing and not a left thing? Interesting and thank you for your honesty.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:44 PM (IYHxL)


No. Servility is not baked into ones skin. But it is baked into ones geography and economics.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 07:53 PM (RtT0l)

350 347 Read Kim du Toit's excellent blog Splendid Isolation. He is a proud American of South African birth, lives in the Dallas area now. He has plenty of old posts about why it's time to let Africa sink. A couple of days ago he had a heartbreaking link to a farmer family murdered in SA in the same fashion as the murders of the Boers in Rhodesia. "Boer" means "farmer" in Afrikaans.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at November 15, 2017 07:52 PM (EyS+d)

White privilege.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:53 PM (NWiLs)

351 Theirs a good documentary about a guy that lives in The US (He's a farmer) finds out his brother or Dad had Died and he is in line to be tribal Chief, he doesn't want it and tries to reject it multiple times but his relatives make him because they get free shit from the lower members of the tribe. When he brings his family over for the ceremony, they are first very excited then when they get there the look on their faces is priceless.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2017 07:53 PM (dKiJG)

352 I never knew that about North/South Rhodesia. Thanks for the history lesson.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (1JAxC)

353 Allred lied about the woman never meeting More after the incident. Since that's a lie what else is?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 07:52 PM (8+Ozj)


Don't forget the words a, an, and the.

Posted by: ghost of Mary McGrory at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (zCyNd)

354 Allred won't turn over the yearbook. Sort of indicted something is hinkey about it.

Also, people in AL getting robocalls asking people to come forward with info against Moore for a cash reward.....hmmmm.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (8+Ozj)

355 I said bad bunch. Who has done better recently or made the same attempts?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 07:47 PM (2DOZq)



No, you did. I just wanted to point out that it's no day at the beach, even with an enormous income from petroleum. Compare, e.g., Norway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (JMKQF)

356 I rarely think about Africa. Not a lot goes on there that interests me.

Posted by: kraken
________

You might feel differently if you should find some long-forgotten words or ancient melodies.

Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (zkGZ8)

357 Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites, the 93-year-old's tenure in recent years has been marked by human rights abuses and economic collapse




If 37 years is recent then yes, it's just been recent

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (SiINZ)

358 321 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer

hahaha

Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB)


Wonder if that stepson of Nelson's knows something about her that we don't. Like, oh, I dunno...she lies?

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (Enq6K)

359 Also, people in AL getting robocalls asking people to come forward with info against Moore for a cash reward.....hmmmm.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (8+Ozj)


Let's call in and jerk them around.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (JMKQF)

360 It's being done by Western leaders, who are just about all white.

And yes, they do appear to be our enemies. What is their endgame, after they succeed in making white people hated minorities in our own countries? I'm having trouble understanding that.


South America -- mostly kleptocracies ruled over by the descendants of Europeans, with a handful of trusted native-descendants to administer/keep under the boot the largely native-descended population.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 07:42 PM (fVubI)

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Yep, I've thought that many times. Liberal elites don't want peers. They want meek, docile serfs.

You think Hillary wants to be made a fool of by that uppity Trump who mouths off to her and sees through her and shouts from the rooftops what she is? You think Michael Moore wants people mocking his stupid gun fallacies? Of course not. How bothersome.

That's why it's incorrect to call it "white self hatred" or "white guilt". It's more like hatred of peers or competitors or anyone who might interfere with their vanity. There's nothing noble in it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 07:55 PM (/qEW2)

361 Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 07:38 PM (sdi6R)

they will still be in power but with an increased number of compliant enablers while the fractious and independent minded are marginalized if not destroyed outright by physical attack, by indoctrination and by reduced influence.

People can't fight city hall if they're desperately trying to survive.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 07:55 PM (jcVMt)

362
It is a bit weird that Roy would sign her yearbook "Judge Roy Moore, Senate Candidate in 2017 & Lover Of Young Tail!"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 07:55 PM (PeVdw)

363 "Boer" means "farmer" in Afrikaans.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at November 15, 2017 07:52 PM (EyS+d)


Yep. "Boer" in Afrikaans = "Bauer" auf Deutsch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:56 PM (JMKQF)

364 It's not really getting that much attention but all of Africa is being invaded by Islam. It's always been around in pockets but it is growing bigly.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 07:47 PM (/tuJf)


Read an article about a year ago that made the case that anywhere Islam goes they become the primary religion culturally. B/c violence and intolerance work.

Therefore, they are the fastest growing religion, and, even if not the primary religion, they sublimate or force the culture to capitulate to them b/c people fear the violence. I didn't research the claims, but watching EU, and hearing about India, it appears to be true.

Which is why I fear for the US. B/c logic and intelligence have flown and stupid rules the day. I don't expect our leaders to be any better than Europe. They already have a greater hold in the US then people realize. B/c the media does not report.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 07:56 PM (gg/Vm)

365 BBC has an article up that is headlined: Mugabe: Hero or villain?

Another one has this headline: Did Mugabe go too far?

Posted by: Glenn John at November 15, 2017 07:05 PM (LilNs)


Let me guess the BBC was clearly on the side of hero

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 07:56 PM (SiINZ)

366 359
Also, people in AL getting robocalls asking people to come forward with info against Moore for a cash reward.....hmmmm.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (8+Ozj)



Let's call in and jerk them around.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (JMKQF)


Oh, I got stories about Scotty Moore....

Posted by: E. Aaron Presley at November 15, 2017 07:56 PM (zCyNd)

367

He signed her yearbook: "Thanks for the BJ, Your pal and future senator, Judge Roy!"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 07:56 PM (PeVdw)

368 So again I bring it back to ideology and am adding economic slavery. The left promised money for moms as long as the dads weren't in the house. The left has had it out for western civilization and IMO has used blacks as a means to get there.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:57 PM (IYHxL)

369 What is their endgame, after they succeed in making white people hated minorities in our own countries? I'm having trouble understanding that.

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That is the goal. They truly believe that if white people are eradicated all of the world's ills go away. I saw a doc about some Silicon Valley guy, don't remember who. His daughter married a black guy and he said he is so proud of her knowing that in a few generations his whiteness will no longer exist.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 07:57 PM (1JAxC)

370 304 And to clarify my question above, I'm not asking which black-run polity ran well, which one you'd look at and say, "Boy, I'd really like to live there."

I'm asking an easier question: which of the extant such polities is the best run, regardless of how well-run it is in an absolute sense.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:41 PM (JMKQF)



The Mali empire had a decent run once didn't it?

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 15, 2017 07:57 PM (z/Ubi)

371
Parts: The Clonus Horror

I know I saw this about 10-15 years ago but I remember very little about it.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis


https://youtu.be/8n8MfsoNAHY

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 07:57 PM (IqV8l)

372 Allred won't turn over the yearbook. Sort of indicted something is hinkey about it.




Gee, nothing suspicious about that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 07:57 PM (SiINZ)

373 Allred won't turn over the yearbook. Sort of indicted something is hinkey about it.



Also, people in AL getting robocalls asking people to come forward with info against Moore for a cash reward.....hmmmm.
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It's time to start asking what Mitch McConnell and the NRSC knew about this scam, and when did they know it?

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2017 07:58 PM (XQvuQ)

374

Wasn't some place called Egypt a kinda big deal a long time ago?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 07:58 PM (PeVdw)

375 Fuck you. He still needs to lose.
Posted by: Smart People at GOPe HQ at November 15, 2017 07:53 PM (1JAxC)

No thanks; It was a lousy pick up line. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 07:58 PM (8+Ozj)

376 368 So again I bring it back to ideology and am adding economic slavery. The left promised money for moms as long as the dads weren't in the house. The left has had it out for western civilization and IMO has used blacks as a means to get there.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 07:57 PM (IYHxL)

Something LBJ, something something voting Democrat for the next 200 years...

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:58 PM (NWiLs)

377 "Therefore, they are the fastest growing religion, and, even if not the primary religion, they sublimate or force the culture to capitulate to them b/c people fear the violence. I didn't research the claims, but watching EU, and hearing about India, it appears to be true. "

More muzzies than Jews in the US. And growing exponentially.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 07:58 PM (1JAxC)

378
It's not really getting that much attention but all of Africa is being invaded by Islam. It's always been around in pockets but it is growing bigly.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 07:47 PM (/tuJf)

The Anglican Church, oddly enough, is being overrun with Africans who aren't okay with rainbow flags and stuff.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 15, 2017 07:58 PM (nBr1j)

379
The Mali empire had a decent run once didn't it?

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 15, 2017 07:57 PM (z/Ubi)


TILL THEM GREEK HOMOS STOLE IT ALL!!!!

Posted by: "Rev." Al Sharpton at November 15, 2017 07:59 PM (zCyNd)

380 >>> Prince Akeem sends his warm wishes and most blessings on high for a blessed evening if you would send him $3,000.00 and your personal information

HA!!

That movie is an interesting look at NYC pre the Giuliani cleanup. The graffiti'd subway cars alone are a fascinating relic.

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 07:59 PM (hvf9s)

381 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer

hahaha
Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB)



It's not forgery forgery

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 07:59 PM (SiINZ)

382
"You're gonna be a real hot piece of ass when you grow up. Have a great Summer! Singed, Judge Roy Moore"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 07:59 PM (PeVdw)

383 Second look at RDF?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 08:00 PM (fA1SL)

384 The new nation of Zimbabwe was named after an archaeological site there known as "The Great Zimbabwe," which was declared the nation's greatest cultural treasure and proof of their people's ancient supremacy.

But if you've ever been there, and read of it s history, you'll find The great Zimbabwe to be...well, underwhelming. Most of what remains was built in the 15th century AD, and its basically just some stone walls, not much different from nor more advanced than the stone walls built in Mycenae Greece 3,000 years earlier, or stone walls even earlier in Egypt and China.

By the time the Great Zimbabwe was built, there were literally thousands of larger settlements with more impressive architecture in the Western world.

It's a classic case of patronizing condescension by those who romanticize the Great Zimbabwe: "Pretty good for a bunch of Africans". But judged on a global scale: Meh.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:00 PM (42M22)

385 LMAO, way to go Steyn, comparing Maxine to Butcher Bob.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:00 PM (GsAUU)

386 Judge Roy Moore, the Big Galute.

Posted by: ALH at November 15, 2017 08:00 PM (MYss1)

387 Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:58 PM (NWiLs)

I truly loathe that man.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:00 PM (IYHxL)

388 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (JMKQF)

I agree. Nigeria is just a different level of hell.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:00 PM (2DOZq)

389 Also, people in AL getting robocalls asking people to come forward with info against Moore for a cash reward.....hmmmm.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM (8+Ozj)


========

I made a joke about that possibility a few days ago, about them setting up a hotline to solicit rape narratives against Moore.

They never fail to live down to my lowest expectations.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 08:00 PM (/qEW2)

390 That movie is an interesting look at NYC pre the Giuliani cleanup. The graffiti'd subway cars alone are a fascinating relic.

Posted by: LizLem
________

I'm still waiting for the movie See You Next Wednesday.

Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 08:01 PM (zkGZ8)

391 Sure hope I didn't sign her yearbook, too.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at November 15, 2017 08:01 PM (Tyii7)

392 387 Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 07:58 PM (NWiLs)

I truly loathe that man.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:00 PM (IYHxL)

I'm with you. One of the most despicable characters ever to sully the Oval Office.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 08:01 PM (NWiLs)

393
He signed this yearbook, when, in 1979??


"Best Wishes To My 5th Victim! Have a great Summer! Signed, Judge Roy"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 08:01 PM (PeVdw)

394 379
The Mali empire had a decent run once didn't it?

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 15, 2017 07:57 PM (z/Ubi)


TILL THEM GREEK HOMOS STOLE IT ALL!!!!
Posted by: "Rev." Al Sharpton at November 15, 2017 07:59 PM (zCyNd)

--As with the ancient Egyptians, the Malinese were probably more like Berbers than black. I must look up.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:01 PM (GsAUU)

395
Why would a 30 yr old prosecutor be signing yearbooks??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 08:02 PM (PeVdw)

396 391
Sure hope I didn't sign her yearbook, too.


Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at November 15, 2017 08:01 PM (Tyii7)


You will. If needed.

Posted by: G. Allred at November 15, 2017 08:02 PM (zCyNd)

397 GOOD GOLLY MISS MALI

Posted by: AL SHARPTON at November 15, 2017 08:02 PM (IqV8l)

398 One thing that made me think WTF was a yearbook signed in December? HUH? Every yearbook I had came out towards the end of the year, like May or June.

What high school puts out a yearbook in December?

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (1JAxC)

399 Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 08:01 PM (PeVdw)

You forget the D.A. part

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (8+Ozj)

400 I love it when Mark is pissed.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (GsAUU)

401 *fist bumps Insomniac*

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (IYHxL)

402 395
Why would a 30 yr old prosecutor be signing yearbooks??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 08:02 PM (PeVdw)

___

SHUT UP!!! That's why.

Posted by: Smart People at GOPe HQ at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (1JAxC)

403 This halfrican person asks very, very good questions.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (RtT0l)

404 What high school puts out a yearbook in December?
Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (1JAxC)

I thought that was strange too.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2017 08:04 PM (dKiJG)

405 I'm shocked, just really shocked about this situation. I mean, look at the poor quality paste they used to bind this yearbook. I mean that's just poor quality workmanship, man.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 15, 2017 08:04 PM (4ErVI)

406 Who the hell carries a yearbook with them in December?

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 08:04 PM (NWiLs)

407 358 321 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer

hahaha

Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB)
______________

She's a blatant fraudster. She knows the yearbook inscription is not authentic. It's probably not even Beverly Nelson's yearbook at all.

Allred refuses to hand it over until a Senate committee initiates a hearing into Nelson's accusation. She knows that isn't going to happen, so she keeps the yearbook from being examined and exposed as the fraud it is, and she keeps smearing Moore.

So sick of this bullshit of smearing people and then later, when it's too late, saying "oops, we were wrong" or "hey, so what, it worked" (a la Harry Reid).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 15, 2017 08:04 PM (BXf9o)

408

"1979! What a great year. I'll never forget the time you almost gave me a BJ! Have a great Summer! Signed, Judge Roy Moore"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (PeVdw)

409 So did he sign it "gangster of love", or " pompatus of love"??

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (pL6Vz)

410 Odds Fusion GPS is behind this bullshit? Greater than 0.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (1JAxC)

411 Carthage and Hannibal should be African defenders go to.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (2DOZq)

412 But Ivanka said there is so reason to question the accusers stories......

and southern White Christians are Pedos who should burn in hell (that's what I felt she said and it's plausible)

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (g4lFK)

413 Well I try Scogg

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (IYHxL)

414 343 A buddy of mine went to South Africa for a vacay. I thought he was fucking nuts. But he said he had an awesome time, very beautiful country. I guess, but there isn't enough beauty in the world to get me on a plane to Johannesburg.
Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 07:51 PM (1JAxC)


I gave a talk at a scientific meeting in South Africa. Didn't see much of Johannesburg (no time), but enjoyed the meeting, and afterwards rented a car and drove through the Kruger National Park. (You have to drive through, and cannot get out of the car.) It was amazing.

Also amazing was the hardware that whites going into the park had to check in. They were armed to the teeth, to protect themselves from the blacks attacking whites.

Put me in mind of the scene from "I'm Gonna Get You Sucka," (except played in reverse) where the protagonists are arming themselves.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (Llmo+)

415 Yeah seriously about the yearbook. Mine doesn't have a single signature in it. I think we got them and there was a thing where we would go around and get them signed and I went and got high instead.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (4ErVI)

416 To a really pretty girl, who I'm going to molest real soon.

Signed

Roy Moore. D.A. and future judge and Senatorial candidate
12-22-77
Olde Hickory House
6:35pm
Cloudy with a chance of rain tonight

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (SiINZ)

417 --As with the ancient Egyptians, the Malinese were probably more like Berbers than black. I must look up.

Timbuktu, at least, was a mixed Amazigh / Arab colony.

Like, er, Spain. Counting Timbuktu as west African is like counting the Umayyad Emirate in Spain as Spanish. There was a time you could get your ass kicked, hard, for suggesting the latter in Madrid. There was a time before that when you'd end up on a stake.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (6FqZa)

418

Ivanka, where do pussy grabbers go when they die?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (PeVdw)

419 I'm sure this guy that looks like a turtle will resign if the Moore scandal proves to be a scam.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (nBr1j)

420 This Tucker guest is an asshelmet

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (GsAUU)

421 411 Carthage and Hannibal should be African defenders go to.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (2DOZq)



Except they were Phoenicians.

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 15, 2017 08:07 PM (z/Ubi)

422 420 This Tucker guest is an asshelmet
Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (GsAUU)

___

So pretty much a regular Tucker show.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:07 PM (1JAxC)

423 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (6FqZa)

You reminded me of Hopper's scene in True Romance.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:08 PM (2DOZq)

424 *Songhai later conquered Timbuktu and made it theirs, like the Christian Spanish took back Cordova etc.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:08 PM (6FqZa)

425 and southern White Christians are Pedos who should burn in hell (that's what I felt she said and it's plausible)
Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (g4lFK)


By Pedo ... she probably meant Baptists Who Will Drink All Your Beer.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 08:08 PM (RtT0l)

426 To my sweetheart,

It has been a pleasure harassing you. Whatever you do, don't tell anyone in case I run for Senate in 2017.

Love
R.M.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:08 PM (1JAxC)

427 398 One thing that made me think WTF was a yearbook signed in December? HUH? Every yearbook I had came out towards the end of the year, like May or June.

What high school puts out a yearbook in December?

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (1JAxC)

Yeah, I asked that same question day 1. Also, why bring it to a restaurant where you work?

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 08:08 PM (Enq6K)

428 Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:08 PM (1JAxC)

LOL.

You forgot Roy Moore, D.A.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 08:09 PM (8+Ozj)

429 420 This Tucker guest is an asshelmet

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (GsAUU)

He looked asshelmety...went to mute.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 08:09 PM (Enq6K)

430 395
Why would a 30 yr old prosecutor be signing yearbooks??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at November 15, 2017 08:02 PM (PeVdw)

Some random dude named Ray signed it. Moore was added in blue ink. Yearbook picture linked below..

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1510782469033.jpg

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 08:10 PM (g4lFK)

431 Timbuktu, at least, was a mixed Amazigh / Arab colony.

Like, er, Spain. Counting Timbuktu as west African is like counting the Umayyad Emirate in Spain as Spanish. There was a time you could get your ass kicked, hard, for suggesting the latter in Madrid. There was a time before that when you'd end up on a stake.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (6FqZa)

--Dude, second look at starting a History Thread?

I'm game.

(oops, don't say that in Africa!)

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:10 PM (GsAUU)

432 Is it possible the girl had a crush on Moore, and he signed the book just to be nice?

Or is that too normal behavior to be credible??

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 08:10 PM (pL6Vz)

433 422 420 This Tucker guest is an asshelmet
Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:06 PM (GsAUU)

___

So pretty much a regular Tucker show.
Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:07 PM (1JAxC)

--Yep.

Credit to Tucker for revealing the idiots.

I love his show.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:11 PM (GsAUU)

434 I feel sorry for undernood.

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 08:12 PM (LiyEm)

435 Lots of people will be eating poo covered crow when this is all over.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 08:12 PM (g4lFK)

436 Yep, I've thought that many times. Liberal elites don't want peers. They want meek, docile serfs.


True. Sessions, Peggy Noonan, and others have written that citizens are looked at with contempt by Congress. A nuisance they only engage with at election time.

There are 3 struggles going on. Wars. Power plays. Whatever label you want to use. Both here and in Europe.

Globalism vs. Nationalism. (Borders vs. open borders)
Elites vs. Populists
Mass Immigration vs. Citizens (cheap labor vs. not)

They intersect and overlap, you can even exchange terminology. But that's how I've been seeing it for over a year now.

You can also add the false claims of diversity, which is actually a way to end diversity in the long run and make us all the same. A uniformity that they believe will erase cultural, race and religious tensions. They also need to merge the religions to accomplish this. It's weird to watch it play out, after all the books and movies that warned us about it.

Technology has only advanced the speed of the end game.
It's bleak. Only a new, economic nationalist party here will prevent it...and that's a maybe. Most of Europe is done for. The Visegard and Nordic countries have a chance still...maybe. And historians liken it all to the fall of Rome, only differing on what year a war will occur.

The ME countries will have a role. Us, I hope not, but many fear Europe is counting on us to save them a 3rd time if war occurs. However, it is possible that so many Islamic leaders will be voted in, as the immigrant population explodes...well...war may be futile.

Well, I'm on a roll. I'll stop now. But there's more. I'll spare everyone.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muss at November 15, 2017 08:12 PM (gg/Vm)

437 >>> I feel sorry for undernood.
Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 08:12 PM (LiyEm)

It now chooses to live its life as a gay man.

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 08:12 PM (hvf9s)

438 Also, why bring it to a restaurant where you work?
Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 08:08 PM (Enq6K)

___

Yep.

Although who knows? To me yearbooks were no big deal. I really didn't give a shit about them and wouldn't have taken it with me anywhere. But for some people maybe they carried it around with them to get as many people to sign, even those at work?

But the December thing is just a huge red flag. In order to have a yearbook ready in December, it would have to be ready to go to the printers in November. Which means it would have content for 2 months of the school year.

It makes zero sense and if I were the Moore team I'd look into the time line. It should be easy enough to find out when yearbooks that year were made.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:13 PM (1JAxC)

439 I would like to know which Congress Critters that $15 million in pay off money was meant to benefit.

It would be hilarious if Mitch McConnell was one of them.

Posted by: ALH at November 15, 2017 08:14 PM (MYss1)

440 432 Is it possible the girl had a crush on Moore, and he signed the book just to be nice?

Or is that too normal behavior to be credible??
Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 08:10 PM (pL6Vz)

Seriously. Does this look real to you?.

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1510782469033.jpg

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 08:14 PM (g4lFK)

441 You might feel differently if you should find some long-forgotten words or ancient melodies.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 15, 2017 07:54 PM

Probably take a hundred Morons or more to ever do that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (Qa1CP)

442 I predict Mitch McConnell will be an early casualty as this plays out.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (4ErVI)

443 Or is that too normal behavior to be credible??

Posted by: kraken at


You've never actually met a high school girl or a 30 year old single male, have you?

Posted by: Sharkman at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (/DDKs)

444 To be fair, the environment of Africa forces any homo sapiens to cluster in groups no larger than a tribe. Because of the dense jungle, the heat, the predators and the huge pool of microbial activity a larger grouping is less likely to survive.

In fact it wasn't until more modern agricultural processes and knowledge began to take hold in Europe that European culture began to burgeon. (along with it's population)

Plus the advantage of having fewer competitors on the land with a yearly die off of microbial activity made Europe and other northern countries more and more conducive to higher learning, science and technology.

Once Africa organizes enough to tame the environment (if the greens let it happen) it will become the next locus of Empire. This will be after the Chinese or some other Asian country assumes it's role as the leading center of power on the Earth. This, of course, will be many years in the future.

Perhaps by then we will have escaped this gravity well and homo sapiens point failure locus and be spread across the Solar System.

Wish I could be there to see it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (jcVMt)

445 432 Is it possible the girl had a crush on Moore, and he signed the book just to be nice?
______________

It's possible the yearbook doesn't even belong to the accuser.

Notice that the accuser's name does not appear anywhere in the inscription. Moore may have signed it for somebody else. And we haven't seen anything except the one page. Allred refuses to release the entire book.

We only have the accuser's word that it's her yearbook, and we already know she's a liar. She said she'd had no contact with Moore after the alleged assault. Yet he was the judge in her divorce in 1999.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (BXf9o)

446 403 This halfrican person asks very, very good questions.
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 08:03 PM (RtT0l)


He does, but the first step in understanding any phenomenon is taxonomic. Where does it show up? How does it manifest itself? Is there more than one manifestation? That sort of thing.

Let's shift to a less emotionally-loaded context. Suppose you're tracking down a disease. Where do you start?

You start with who gets the disease, and what those people have in common.

Consider the 1854 outbreak of cholera in the Broad Street, London. Studying the taxonomy of the outbreak - i.e., who got the disease, and what they had in common - led John Snow to hypothesize that the disease was not transmitted by air - the prevalent assumption of the time - but rather by water, as the vast majority of victims had drunk water from the same source.

Consideration of who manifests the phenomenon is the first step to understanding it, even if the inferences drawn therefrom are painful. (Consider AIDS in this respect.) The truth is the truth, no matter whose tail feather may get ruffled by it. Truth doesn't give a shit about political correctness.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (Llmo+)

447 Reminds me. I love the movie Dogs of War.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol

With Christopher Walken

Walken the Dog.


Hmmmm....

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 15, 2017 08:16 PM (S6Pax)

448 >>> Probably take a hundred Morons or more to ever do that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (Qa1CP)

Great, now I'll have that song in my head forever. Your'e eeeeevil RMBS!

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 08:17 PM (hvf9s)

449 1. Military Coup ousts Mugabee
2. Trump sees the writing on the wall
3. Hillary is President!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 15, 2017 08:17 PM (BoMuO)

450 What 14 year old girl asks a 32 year old man to sign her year book, anyway? Most 14 year olds are too self-conscious to be that forward.

Posted by: ALH at November 15, 2017 08:17 PM (MYss1)

451
Lots of people will be eating poo covered crow when this is all over.
Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 08:12 PM


They'll turn on a dime and go after something else.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 08:18 PM (IqV8l)

452 Oh STFU Trace, peddling bullshit polling on the Moore-Jones race.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:18 PM (GsAUU)

453 Notice that the accuser's name does not appear anywhere in the inscription. Moore may have signed it for somebody else. And we haven't seen anything except the one page. Allred refuses to release the entire book.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (BXf9o)


For my money, that alone is dispositive. The Weasel is engaging in a version of quote cropping, i.e., providing only the part of the evidence that supports her position, and omitting anything else that may be irrelevant, but may OTOH bear on the matter at hand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:19 PM (Llmo+)

454 >>> Lots of people will be eating poo covered crow when this is all over.

It worked, didn't it?

Posted by: Harry Reid, trying to hide the boys in his basement at November 15, 2017 08:19 PM (hvf9s)

455 Posted by: ALH at November 15, 2017 08:17 PM (MYss1)

I think Moore would have been 28 in December 1977 just to be accurate.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:19 PM (2DOZq)

456 What 14 year old girl asks a 32 year old man to sign her year book, anyway? Most 14 year olds are too self-conscious to be that forward.
Posted by: ALH at November 15, 2017 08:17 PM (MYss1)

Word!

Posted by: Traci Lords at November 15, 2017 08:19 PM (g4lFK)

457

Can I have my country back now?

Posted by: Ronald Reid-Daly at November 15, 2017 08:19 PM (qul7b)

458 450 What 14 year old girl asks a 32 year old man to sign her year book, anyway? Most 14 year olds are too self-conscious to be that forward.
________________

The waitress accuser was 16 at the time that Moore supposedly signed her yearbook and then attacked her.

The girl who was 14 is the other accuser who says Moore babysat her at the courthouse while her mom was in a custody hearing, then took her out on a couple of dates behind her mom's back, and groped her.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 15, 2017 08:19 PM (BXf9o)

459 Great, now I'll have that song in my head forever. Your'e eeeeevil RMBS!
Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 08:17

Well...I am a lawyer...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 15, 2017 08:20 PM (Qa1CP)

460 To real cute girl who I had fun groping.

Signed,

Judge Roy Moore, DA
12-22-77
Olde Hickory House

P.S. Whatever you do don't get that brilliant attorney Gloria Allred to represent you in 40 years or I'll be really screwed because she's the best ever!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 08:20 PM (SiINZ)

461 Thank you, Tucker, for revealing this lying Dem cunny to us.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:20 PM (GsAUU)

462 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (Llmo+)

I'm fascinated at what you're getting at. By all means continue.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:20 PM (IYHxL)

463 I need a class roster to keep all those accusers straight.

Posted by: ALH at November 15, 2017 08:22 PM (MYss1)

464 Sorry I opinionated on this dumpster fire... should have known better... bottom line... who knows the truth of the matter.?? Since I don't trust government OR the media, it just leaves... scepticism, smothered in cynicism.

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 08:22 PM (pL6Vz)

465 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:15 PM (jcVMt)


Good point. I'd say the difference is producing the requisite culture sui generis, as opposed to emulating an existing successful culture.

Doing something for the first time is tough. Copying someone else who is successful is straightforward. See, e.g., Japan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:23 PM (Llmo+)

466 Bitch on Tucker's show:

IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR!

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:23 PM (GsAUU)

467 I'm the world's stupidest man, so I will sign your yearbook and provide physical proof for anyone investigating the rape I am about to commit.

Love

Judge Roy

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:24 PM (1JAxC)

468 Is the original inscription in black ink and the follow up with Roy Moore in Blue, because if that is the case it's a hell of a bad forgery. His pen ran out of ink and he had to use another pen with a different color.?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2017 08:25 PM (8+Ozj)

469
Ebagum is out but Zim will be a sewage pit for the near to far future. No civic consciousness and too many people with their fingers in whatever pie is left.

Wonder how many poor, ordinary Zims think, "Sure wish the white guys were still running things."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 15, 2017 08:25 PM (cWHkZ)

470 421 411 Carthage and Hannibal should be African defenders go to.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:05 PM (2DOZq)


Except they were Phoenicians.
Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign


Yup.

The entire Carthaginian civilization -- including Hannibal -- were "Phoenicians," since Carthage was just a Phoenician colony on the North African coastline.

And the Phoenicians were themselves descended from "The Sea Peoples" who settled in what is now Lebanon.

And "The Sea Peoples" originally came from Greece.

So: Carthaginians + Hannibal = "white," i.e of European descent.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:26 PM (42M22)

471 They said no math allowed . I should have listen. Moore born Feb 1947. He would have been 30 in 1977.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:27 PM (2DOZq)

472 I've learned a great deal in this thread. This is awesome any history book recommendations?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:28 PM (IYHxL)

473 There ought to be a charge somewhere correlating "credibility" with time.

Posted by: MAGA at November 15, 2017 08:28 PM (n3BzR)

474 The forger signed the assistant's version of the signature. Allred is cooked

Posted by: CN at November 15, 2017 08:28 PM (5gaNQ)

475 You know ...

... I just kinda miss the old days. When my Scots-Irish ancestors rolled in the hood ... as a group ... and everyone knew - yeah, those slightly bigger than average bastards have zero fucks to give. Except for the sun. And happy hour.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 08:28 PM (RtT0l)

476 467 I'm the world's stupidest man, so I will sign your yearbook and provide physical proof for anyone investigating the rape I am about to commit.

Love

Judge Roy
Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:24 PM (1JAxC)

--LMAO reminds me of the classic Tim Blair mock headline "Muslims Fear Backlash from Tomorrow's Terror Attack"

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:29 PM (GsAUU)

477 These coup fellows - very humane, all things considered. For what Mugabe did to the nation and her people, he deserves agony and an unclean death.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 08:29 PM (fA1SL)

478

'The Selous Scouts'

Posted by: Ronald Reid-Daly at November 15, 2017 08:29 PM (qul7b)

479 "Comrade Mao was 90 percent correct, only the gang of four was bad."

I've seen this movie before.

Posted by: Ruy Diaz at November 15, 2017 08:29 PM (TklKA)

480 Guess who got to shoot a brand new AR15 today. I mean besides MisHum.

Posted by: Eromero at November 15, 2017 08:29 PM (zLDYs)

481 468 Is the original inscription in black ink and the follow up with Roy Moore in Blue, because if that is the case it's a hell of a bad forgery. His pen ran out of ink and he had to use another pen with a different color.?
__________________

The inscription and the signature "Love, Roy" is written in black ink. The "Moore, D.A." and the date and name of the restaurant is in blue ink.

Apparently somebody else added the stuff in blue ink, and it appears they copied the "Moore, D.A." part off one of Moore's court documents, not realizing that "D.A." were the initials of Moore's judicial assistant.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 15, 2017 08:29 PM (BXf9o)

482 The entire Carthaginian civilization -- including Hannibal -- were "Phoenicians," since Carthage was just a Phoenician colony on the North African coastline.

And the Phoenicians were themselves descended from "The Sea Peoples" who settled in what is now Lebanon.

And "The Sea Peoples" originally came from Greece.

So: Carthaginians + Hannibal = "white," i.e of European descent.
Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:26 PM (42M22)

--Just to pile on, the Punic Wars were called the Punic Wars because Punic = Phoenician.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:30 PM (GsAUU)

483 hmmmmm.....

http://tinyurl.com/yayv5t4n

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 08:30 PM (/tuJf)

484 Damn, when Jimmy Johns makes their roast beef sandwich right, it is darn near perfect.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 15, 2017 08:30 PM (rb1zT)

485 Consideration of who manifests the phenomenon is the first step to understanding it, even if the inferences drawn therefrom are painful. (Consider AIDS in this respect.) The truth is the truth, no matter whose tail feather may get ruffled by it. Truth doesn't give a shit about political correctness.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Some cultural advancements are developed independently, so it can be confusing.

For example, the Egyptians built pyramids from blocks of stone.

Then, 3,500 years later, the Mayans and Aztecs also built pyramids out of blocks of stone.

HOWEVER, despite the obvious conclusion that the central Americans copied the Egyptians, they actually "invented" the pyramid independently, since the two culture had no contact.

Of course, inventing something 3,500 years after someone else invented it is pretty embarrassing too.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:30 PM (42M22)

486 He should sue Allred's ass off

Posted by: CN at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (5gaNQ)

487 Just once I'd like a coup to say "we just wanted to be in power" or "yeah well f--- that guy" instead of trying to couch it in some kind of technicality or legal distinction.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (39g3+)

488 The only way pluralism could have worked is if it resulted at the start from mutual voluntary interaction between countries - ie. one country allowing people from another to emigrate, build a factory, etc.

I'm starting to think pluralism will always be broken, here and in Africa, because we'll never get past the acrimonies of the past. The only possible solution would be separation. Groups like BLM who cannot accept pluralism need to go to CA when it secedes. And whites in South Africa need to evacuate.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (/qEW2)

489 Sorry I opinionated on this dumpster fire... should
have known better... bottom line... who knows the truth of the matter.??
Since I don't trust government OR the media, it just leaves...
scepticism, smothered in cynicism.

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 08:22 PM (pL6Vz)

With a side of bitterness and derision:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (FTXAT)

490 And "The Sea Peoples" originally came from Greece.

So: Carthaginians + Hannibal = "white," i.e of European descent.
Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:26 PM (42M22)



Well they don't really know that for certain. The "Sea Peoples" are a bit of a mystery. But yeah most likely European origin.

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (z/Ubi)

491 And let's not forget that Rhodesia was doing so well because of the influx of British Empire money and influence.

That's how those white farmers got that land in the first place.

And they built the infrastructure, created a common language so that everyone could talk to anyone else, a common law that applied (mostly) to all, a common stable currency which is a requirement for trade both in country and world wise. And all sorts of other things that could have evolved eventually but were superposed on the area by reason of force.

Thus it was a foreign distortion of the normal evolution of Africa and the Africans in that area.

That it flexed in odd ways is to be expected. What was criminal was allowing this murderer and thief to stay in power for so long. Another distortion imposed from the outside.

Perhaps if outsiders would stop f**king with Africa they could eventually become nations to be proud of.

So far that doesn't seem likely.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (jcVMt)

492
Allred refuses to hand it over until a Senate committee initiates a hearing into Nelson's accusation. She


Well, Moore would have to be elected for them to have jurisdiction, no?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 15, 2017 08:33 PM (oVJmc)

493
So: Carthaginians + Hannibal = "white," i.e of European descent.



Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:26 PM (42M22)


The Romans provided development aid to the Carthaginians under the 3rd century B.C. Sustainable Green Economy Program.
Free salt.

Posted by: Miklos Africanus at November 15, 2017 08:33 PM (zCyNd)

494 Perhaps if outsiders would stop f**king with Africa they could eventually become nations to be proud of.

So far that doesn't seem likely.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (jcVMt)

--That includes the brain drain.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:33 PM (GsAUU)

495 Afrikaner. That language is 'related' to Dutch or German? Just curious. Orgins of language interest me a bit. I'm a nerd.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 08:33 PM (pY+s4)

496 He should sue Allred's ass off

That would take all year

Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 08:33 PM (y3aQB)

497 Commentary today said AllRed doesn't make a living going to court. She makes a living bringing claimants forward. _Sort of a Jessie Jackson in red.

Posted by: gNewt at November 15, 2017 08:33 PM (kvb15)

498 The Romans provided development aid to the Carthaginians under the 3rd century B.C. Sustainable Green Economy Program. Free salt.

They greatly reduced pollution and urban sprawl, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 08:34 PM (39g3+)

499

Well, our plan to depopulate Africa with AIDS to snatch it's wealth in toto didn't work, what shall we try next?

Posted by: The Chinese at November 15, 2017 08:34 PM (qul7b)

500 495 Afrikaner. That language is 'related' to Dutch or German? Just curious. Orgins of language interest me a bit. I'm a nerd.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 08:33 PM (pY+s4)

Dutch.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 08:34 PM (nBr1j)

501 I'm pissed off. And I'm pissed off that I'm pissed off...shouldn't let a person get under my skin. But it's been a rough few weeks, and thus I was at a disadvantage. But dammit.

Maybe I need a visit from Chad. Or Paolo.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:34 PM (gg/Vm)

502
Just once I'd like a coup to say "we just wanted to be in power" or "yeah well f--- that guy" instead of trying to couch it in some kind of technicality or legal distinction.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (39g3+)


It was either Coleman Young or Harold Washington who said, "It's out turn now."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 15, 2017 08:35 PM (LFAjR)

503 Wonder how many poor, ordinary Zims think, "Sure wish the white guys were still running things."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 15, 2017 08:25 PM (cWHkZ)




I saw an interview of a black soldier in the Rhodesian army from the late 70s, I think by the BBC, asking him why would he fight for the white government. His answer was along the lines of he didn't want communists to take over his country

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 08:35 PM (SiINZ)

504 Perhaps if outsiders would stop f**king with Africa they could eventually become nations to be proud of.

So far that doesn't seem likely.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:31 PM (jcVMt)

I read an article a few months ago written by an African and I think the title was For God's Sake Quit Helping Us. It was about the NGOs and how bad they are for the continent. The money that comes in is taken by the goons in charge and used to prop up the regimes. That's been going on for some time. Back in the Cold War the African regimes, like the one in Zaire, played the two sides off to get the money to stay in power.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 08:35 PM (4ErVI)

505
The Romans provided development aid to the Carthaginians under the 3rd century B.C. Sustainable Green Economy Program. Free salt.

They greatly reduced pollution and urban sprawl, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Too bad it wasn't sustainable.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 08:35 PM (IqV8l)

506 The 'sea peoples' is from atlanta. Everybody knows that. It was on history channel, or discover channel, or learning channel. One of them.

Posted by: Eromero at November 15, 2017 08:36 PM (zLDYs)

507 Well they don't really know that for certain. The "Sea Peoples" are a bit of a mystery. But yeah most likely European origin.
Posted by: buzzion


If the Egyptians are calling a group the "Sea Peoples" who came from across the sea, then there's only one place they could have come from, if you ponder a map of the Mediterranean and surrounding landmasses. We already know for sure that prior to colonization, the North African coast to the west of Egypt had no mystery civilization of its own -- it was just barren. No ruins, no records, nothing, until the Phoenicians and Greeks established colonies. So where could the Sea Peoples have conceivably come? Only one answer: the northern side of the Mediterranean Sea.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:36 PM (42M22)

508 Just to pile on, the Punic Wars were called the Punic Wars because Punic = Phoenician.

It is fortunate they were not the Phoebicans.

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (tIhIY)

509 I read an article a few months ago written by an African and I think the title was For God's Sake Quit Helping Us. It was about the NGOs and how bad they are for the continent. The money that comes in is taken by the goons in charge and used to prop up the regimes. That's been going on for some time. Back in the Cold War the African regimes, like the one in Zaire, played the two sides off to get the money to stay in power.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 08:35 PM (4ErVI)

--Plus, the Resource Curse.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (GsAUU)

510 I believe the battle of Carnae was the worst defeat inflicted on the Romans. Well the battle of Teutenberg Forest didn't work that well for them either.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (nBr1j)

511 501 I'm pissed off. And I'm pissed off that I'm pissed off...shouldn't let a person get under my skin. But it's been a rough few weeks, and thus I was at a disadvantage. But dammit.

Maybe I need a visit from Chad. Or Paolo.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:34 PM (gg/Vm)


Just how I roll. Sweet Dreams !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (RtT0l)

512 504
Perhaps if outsiders would stop f**king with Africa they could eventually become nations to be proud of.


What, and leave all that virtue unsignaled?

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (LAe3v)

513 Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:30 PM (42M22)

Your claim that they had no contact is not substantiated by any evidence. In fact there is some to indicate that individual travelers explored and influences many of the tribes and nations in the western hemisphere.

They surely at least knew of the Egyptian pyramids and may have had manuscripts describing them.

To say unequivocally that there was no contact is true in that they may not have had contact with Egyptians but other contact could have provided the seed of an idea.

Hey. It could've been time travelers or space aliens. How the eff would we know?

There's some interesting carvings that could be taken as indicative of a higher intelligence in contact with the Mayans and Aztecs.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (jcVMt)

514 492
Allred refuses to hand it over until a Senate committee initiates a hearing into Nelson's accusation. She

Well, Moore would have to be elected for them to have jurisdiction, no?
________________

Presumably. But even if they somehow could initiate a hearing tomorrow into an accusation of alleged improper touching by a Senate candidate that occurred 40 years ago, we all know Allred would come up with some new excuse not to produce the yearbook.

This is all just bullshit designed to smear Moore just long enough to ruin his chances of getting elected. Then all the cockroaches disappear back into the woodwork.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (BXf9o)

515 Perhaps if outsiders would stop f**king with Africa they could eventually become nations to be proud of.

Well, lets put it this way: its been like a century or two of "help" and they aren't doing any better. Maybe we can try something different?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (39g3+)

516 506
The 'sea peoples' is from atlanta. Everybody knows that. It was on
history channel, or discover channel, or learning channel. One of them.


Posted by: Eromero at November 15, 2017 08:36 PM (zLDYs)

Buckhead, specifically.

Posted by: Miklos on I-20 at November 15, 2017 08:38 PM (zCyNd)

517 500 495 Afrikaner. That language is 'related' to Dutch or German? Just curious. Orgins of language interest me a bit. I'm a nerd.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 08:33 PM (pY+s4)

Dutch.
Posted by: Northernlurker



Makes sense since SA was settled by the Dutch. Thanks.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 08:38 PM (pY+s4)

518

The Pumice Wars really chapped my ass.

Posted by: The Other Sea People Guy, from the south... at November 15, 2017 08:38 PM (qul7b)

519 Some cultural advancements are developed independently, so it can be confusing.

For example, the Egyptians built pyramids from blocks of stone.

Then, 3,500 years later, the Mayans and Aztecs also built pyramids out of blocks of stone.

HOWEVER, despite the obvious conclusion that the central Americans copied the Egyptians, they actually "invented" the pyramid independently, since the two culture had no contact.

Of course, inventing something 3,500 years after someone else invented it is pretty embarrassing too.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:30 PM (42M22)


========

BZZZT! Incorrect. The builders of the pyramids did not arise from two independent cultures. As a matter of fact, they came from the same federation of planets in the Andromeda galaxy.

Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at November 15, 2017 08:38 PM (/qEW2)

520 Some cultural advancements are developed independently, so it can be confusing.

For example, the Egyptians built pyramids from blocks of stone.

Then, 3,500 years later, the Mayans and Aztecs also built pyramids out of blocks of stone.

HOWEVER, despite the obvious conclusion that the central Americans copied the Egyptians, they actually "invented" the pyramid independently, since the two culture had no contact.

Of course, inventing something 3,500 years after someone else invented it is pretty embarrassing too.
Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:30 PM (42M22)



Sure. I was speaking in the context of tracking down a disease. My broader point was that consideration of demographics is entirely reasonable in trying to understand what is going on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:38 PM (Llmo+)

521 Allred refuses to hand it over until a Senate committee initiates a hearing into Nelson's accusation.

Yeah that's not a sign of something she wants to keep out of closer scrutiny at all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 08:38 PM (39g3+)

522 508 Just to pile on, the Punic Wars were called the Punic Wars because Punic = Phoenician.

It is fortunate they were not the Phoebicans.
Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (tIhIY)

--So glad I had no chips in my mouth when I read that.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:38 PM (GsAUU)

523 I believe the battle of Carnae was the worst defeat inflicted on the Romans.

The Battle of the Meat? Was it held at Arby's?

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 08:39 PM (LAe3v)

524 Guess who got to shoot a brand new AR15 today. I mean besides MisHum.

Did you at least give it a blindfold and a cigarette?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2017 08:39 PM (IcT7t)

525 Oh and

FUCK RON JOHNSON

FUCK JUAN McCANCER

That is all

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 15, 2017 08:39 PM (1JAxC)

526 I have a South African friend who was English but could speak Afrikaans. I heard him read some Afrikaans bible.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 08:39 PM (nBr1j)

527 Posted by: ScoggDog at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (RtT0l)


Wasn't you. *sigh* what...did you insult me? Great, just great.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:40 PM (gg/Vm)

528 Sure, I'll just sign it. You write anything you like before it or after it, even 28 years later. Think of it as a blank check that never goes stale.

Posted by: Roy at November 15, 2017 08:40 PM (H0quv)

529 BZZZT! Incorrect. The builders of the pyramids did not arise from two independent cultures. As a matter of fact, they came from the same federation of planets in the Andromeda galaxy.
Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at November 15, 2017 08:38 PM (/qEW2)

Correct.

Posted by: George Noory at November 15, 2017 08:40 PM (GsAUU)

530 Maybe I need a visit from Chad. Or Paolo.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:34 PM (gg/Vm)

The Paolo, he is always willing to give to senorita in need. The Chad, he is stronzo.

Posted by: The Paolo at November 15, 2017 08:40 PM (QC/4S)

531 So no history book recommendations?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:41 PM (IYHxL)

532 504
I read an article a few months ago written by an African and I think the title was For God's Sake Quit Helping Us. It was about the NGOs and how bad they are for the continent. The money that comes in is taken by the goons in charge and used to prop up the regimes. That's been going on for some time. Back in the Cold War the African regimes, like the one in Zaire, played the two sides off to get the money to stay in power.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 08:35 PM (4ErVI)


Foreign aid also undercuts the local economies. Why should people pay farmers to grow food when they can get it for free from charities?

Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 08:41 PM (sdi6R)

533 I misspelled it I believe it is the battle of Cannae where the Carthiginians kicked Rome's ass.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 08:41 PM (nBr1j)

534 I should not be surprised that you guys can be so pedantic on a throw away post.

Where was Carthage located? How long was it in existence before Hannibal ?

Can Egypt still claim those that were of Macedonian blood as Egyptian?

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:41 PM (2DOZq)

535
Of course, inventing something 3,500 years after someone else invented it is pretty embarrassing too.

Posted by: zombie at November 15, 2017 08:30 PM (42M22)


Prior art. No patent for you, Aztecs!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (FEs5F)

536
Watching a video from of a Lt. Col. Rev. Norman Wood of the Rhodesian army who said this isn't a fight of black against white but of Marxist Communists who want to come into their country to destroy all that is Christian

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (SiINZ)

537 Late to the party, maybe I should pop in Tears of the Sun.

Posted by: Auscolpyr at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (pzA2L)

538 Hey. It could've been time travelers or space aliens. How the eff would we know?

By looking at the DNA evidence, and finding absolutely no trace of European or African or West Asian DNA ... that might be a start.

The DNA record has killed a lot of wouldn't-it-be-interesting, we-wuz-kangs speculations.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (6FqZa)

539 531 So no history book recommendations?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:41 PM (IYHxL)

--About what?

I love history books.

Posted by: George Noory at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (GsAUU)

540 536
Watching a video from of a Lt. Col. Rev. Norman Wood of the Rhodesian army who said this isn't a fight of black against white but of Marxist Communists who want to come into their country to destroy all that is Christian
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (SiINZ)

And really, isn't that the story of Barack Obamam?

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (ANIFC)

541 Another problem for Africa was indeed colonization in that it imposed a foreign system on the continent. It's hard to function under a foreign system that isn't of your own creation (although some have done it Japan for instance during their industrialization after the Meiji Restoration). It's impossible to say what high civilization would have looked like in Africa if built by actual Africans, but I doubt it would look like the system imposed by the outside. I also doubt high civilization would have come to Africa even by now because they're still mired in tribalism. It took thousands of years for that sort of system to evaporate in Europe. It took a lot of wars and some farseeing rulers to make it happen.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (4ErVI)

542 I think "the C Peoples" is a good euphemism that lacks the racial overtones of "cucks."

Posted by: wooga at November 15, 2017 08:43 PM (VaOnS)

543 537 Late to the party, maybe I should pop in Tears of the Sun.

Look for the red dot scope on backwards...

Posted by: The Other Sea People Guy, from the south... at November 15, 2017 08:43 PM (qul7b)

544
Prior art. No patent for you, Aztecs!



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (FEs5F)


THEM AFRICAN HOMOS STOLE IT!

Posted by: Rev. Feathered Serpent at November 15, 2017 08:43 PM (zCyNd)

545 Prior art. No patent for you, Aztecs!



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


You assertion is Chacmool of errors.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 08:43 PM (LAe3v)

546 501 I'm pissed off. And I'm pissed off that I'm pissed off...shouldn't let a person get under my skin. But it's been a rough few weeks, and thus I was at a disadvantage. But dammit.

Maybe I need a visit from Chad. Or Paolo.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:34 PM (gg/Vm)

Hit us up on Facebook or Tinder.

Posted by: Chad, Paolo, and Tyrone at November 15, 2017 08:43 PM (g4lFK)

547 Damn it, off Coast to Coast sock

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:43 PM (GsAUU)

548 American, world, African , ME. For a group of morons y'all sure know history

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:43 PM (IYHxL)

549 Maybe I need a visit from Chad

You want a visit from a small African country?

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 08:44 PM (nBr1j)

550 And Bitter Clinger: "Your claim that they had no contact is not substantiated by any evidence."

- is exactly how NOT to do science.

You don't say "prove it didn't". It's on you to prove it did.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:44 PM (6FqZa)

551 531 So no history book recommendations?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:41 PM (IYHxL)

On what? I literally have oodles of history books.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 08:44 PM (ANIFC)

552 I thought the Punic wars were between poets and other wordsmiths of the time?

Stercus, Stercus, Stercus morituri sum

Well that's not a pun but I'm not well versed enough to create one.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:44 PM (jcVMt)

553 I almost bought Paul Johnsons history of the American people but bought books by Larry elder and dinesh D'Souza

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:45 PM (IYHxL)

554 549
Maybe I need a visit from Chad



Cool. I'm just hangin'.

Posted by: Chad from Florida at November 15, 2017 08:45 PM (zCyNd)

555 That's how you get rid of a dictator. I just want to know what took them so long?

Posted by: Decaf at November 15, 2017 08:46 PM (QRVnB)

556 Mmmm mama

*sucks teeth*

Tyrone gon' take care of you

Posted by: Tyrone at November 15, 2017 08:46 PM (39g3+)

557 Well, Blanco, it was so.....satisfying...that if I still smoked, I would have had a cigarette. Which remeinds me, I need a drink.

Posted by: Eromero at November 15, 2017 08:46 PM (zLDYs)

558 513:There's some interesting carvings that could be taken as indicative of a higher intelligence in contact with the Mayans and Aztecs.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (jcVMt)



Our gang graffiti yo!

Posted by: The Greys at November 15, 2017 08:46 PM (pY+s4)

559 Veni, vidi, vici

Posted by: The Paolo at November 15, 2017 08:46 PM (QC/4S)

560 Did Mugabe call himself the King of Scotland?

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 08:46 PM (nBr1j)

561 542. Nope. Shelvey his own furry self nailed it, so to speak 'Wife-Sharing Enthusiast.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 08:46 PM (fA1SL)

562 Maybe I need a visit from Chad

You want a visit from a small African country?
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 08:44 PM (nBr1j)


LOL

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:47 PM (gg/Vm)

563 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer

hahaha
Posted by: Mitch McConnell likes Dick ! at November 15, 2017 07:46 PM (y3aQB)


========

This is what I was afraid of. They will rely on sheer volume of claims to try to discredit Moore.

They don't care if it's horseshit and they're not even interested in trying to prove it's credible. They just want to make it to the election.

Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at November 15, 2017 08:47 PM (/qEW2)

564 Life expectancy in Zimbabwe is 58 (206th in world) but this guy has to still be going at 93?!

'Good' gets no respect in this cruel world.

Posted by: Meremortal, no prosecutions, no peace! at November 15, 2017 08:47 PM (3myMJ)

565 >>That's how you get rid of a dictator. I just want to know what took them so long?

It was a long and intricate plan that only took 37 years to come together.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 08:47 PM (/tuJf)

566 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:44 PM (6FqZa)

Um, this isn't a university lecture. I'm not writing as an expert, You're not qualified to criticize unless you can show documentation.

This is a comment area in a blog.

to hold me to some standard that would only apply if I was a scholar making a statement.

So just flush your self.

I don't have to prove shit to you or anyone else.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:47 PM (jcVMt)

567 So no history book recommendations?

Yes, I'd recommend waiting for the Book Thread on Sunday. You get loads of ideas.

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 08:48 PM (7ulel)

568 560. Idi Amin.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 08:48 PM (fA1SL)

569 515 Perhaps if outsiders would stop f**king with Africa they could eventually become nations to be proud of.

Well, lets put it this way: its been like a century or two of "help" and they aren't doing any better. Maybe we can try something different?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 08:37 PM (39g3+)


No dice.

First, Africa was only colonized in the latter part of the nineteenth century. So from Adam and Eve until then they had every opportunity to create nations they could be proud of. Recall Stanley and Livingstone; the "dark continent" was terra incognita to Europe for centuries after Europe had seen the Greeks, the Romans, etc., the Arabs had created their own cultures, and the Chinese and Japanese had created their own, with their own literature, science, architecture, philosophy, etc. Africa, not so much.

Second, the influence of "outsiders" - i.e., the colonial powers - was if anything beneficial. The former British colonies are the pick of the litter, followed by the French. Yeah, the Portuguese and Spanish colonies drew the short straw, but still, they were no worse off than before colonization.

Third, Africa has been independent now for over half a century, and has done ... bupkis. Even formerly prosperous countries - Rhodesia and South Africa - are now struggling under black rule. Consider that in same time - half a century (from 1858 to 1905) - Japan went from a feudal society to a world power with a modern army and navy that kicked a European power's ass. They didn't need any "help" at all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:48 PM (Llmo+)

570 Anything involving Gloria Allred is drowned in taint.

Posted by: Infidel at November 15, 2017 08:49 PM (4ZKcy)

571 548 American, world, African , ME. For a group of morons y'all sure know history
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:43 PM (IYHxL)

--Anything about Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck's German East Africa campaign in WWI, I devour. Battle for the Bundu is a good start.

I'm also wrapping up Robert Tombs' The English and Their History.

Next up is Empire of Iron (it's about Prussia/Germany).

Poignantly related to WWI, The Vanquished (about the war's loser's) is also excellent.

For obvious reasons, I'm on a WWI kick, including in the novel I'm trying to scratch out.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:49 PM (GsAUU)

572 I just want to know what took them so long?

Given that the main product of all dictators is fear and paranoia, I'll guess that it wasn't so easy to organize the coup. Bravo to those who did. No, I don't especially care about their motives.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 08:49 PM (LAe3v)

573 Yeah, I was 'detained' too.

Posted by: Il Duce at November 15, 2017 08:49 PM (+y0ym)

574 zombie: you are right about the Sea Peoples. A *little* wrong about North Africa prior to the Punic and Greek settlements, but not very.

The Egyptians worried about invasions from the "Labu" to the west. So the Bronze Age Libyans had a society strong enough to threaten the delta. (Like the Nubians at the time.) But the Libyans weren't Sea Peoples; they were able to take the coastal road by land, and maybe hit the big oases like Fayyum.

So on balance the Sea Peoples could only have come from, duh, the sealands: the Aegean mostly, possibly Sicily and Sardinia too if we follow Robert Drews (the Nuragic cultures).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:49 PM (6FqZa)

575 Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 08:48 PM (7ulel)

I'm typically not around Sunday. Thanks anyway.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:50 PM (IYHxL)

576 The Paolo, he is always willing to give to senorita in need. The Chad, he is stronzo.


Maybe, but I heard Chad is good in bed, makes sammiches, and will bring me my fav ice cream.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:50 PM (gg/Vm)

577 554 549
Maybe I need a visit from Chad



Cool. I'm just hangin'.
Posted by: Chad from Florida at November 15, 2017 08:45 PM (zCyNd)

Well, I'm pregnant.

Posted by: Another Chad at November 15, 2017 08:50 PM (GsAUU)

578 "The Birth of the Modern" by Paul Johnson is absolutely fascinating. It covers the period from about 1815-1830. It's exactly 1000 pages long, not counting the index.

I'm about 1/3 of the way through it, and I keep getting sidetracked by other books. I'll finish it eventually, but that first 1/3 is really something.

Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 08:50 PM (sdi6R)

579 Maybe I need a visit from Chad

You want a visit from a small African country?
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 08:44 PM (nBr1j)

Great idea! Consider me out of retirement!

Posted by: Houston, of the Houston 500 at November 15, 2017 08:51 PM (g4lFK)

580 I guess Robert Mugabe being named "The World Health Organization's Goodwill Ambassador" three weeks ago was the bridge too far?

Posted by: wooga at November 15, 2017 08:51 PM (VaOnS)

581 93 year old dictator. Strongman GOAT.

Dear Republicans. Saying you can file taxes on a postcard really connected with the audience 30 years ago when carbon paper was still a thing. It might be time to update the script.

Posted by: charley horse at November 15, 2017 08:51 PM (+kahX)

582 Prior art. No patent for you, Aztecs!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 15, 2017 08:42 PM (FEs5F)


Selection patent on including an altar at the top for eviscerating victims and letting the blood run down.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:51 PM (Llmo+)

583

Clean up on aisle 566.

Note that BTH IS an expert...

Posted by: The Other Sea People Guy, from the south... at November 15, 2017 08:52 PM (qul7b)

584 Who had Charles Manson in their death pool? He's about to go.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 15, 2017 08:52 PM (2DOZq)

585 Wolf Blitzer just asked Gloria Allred if she will say flatly that yearbook inscription isn't a forgery. Allred refuses to say this, even when pressed repeatedly by Blitzer

This is remarkable to me, and almost flaming skull territory. The media simply doesn't do this. Especially the following up.

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 08:52 PM (H0quv)

586 Missouri has a good A.G.

I hope he's steered clear of yearbooks.

Posted by: Another Chad at November 15, 2017 08:52 PM (GsAUU)

587 /sock

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:52 PM (GsAUU)

588 Well lookie here Chad I best not catch you peeing standing up while you in my room aight?!

Posted by: Tyree - From the mad real world at November 15, 2017 08:53 PM (IYHxL)

589 Posted by: The Other Sea People Guy, from the south... at November 15, 2017 08:52 PM (qul7b)

He may be. I have no evidence of that.

And that in your mind deserves a clean up?

Please.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:53 PM (jcVMt)

590 Was Bitter Clinger the astrology guy or am I thinking of Buzzion?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 08:53 PM (RrhD2)

591 All these years and Mugabe never got himself a song?


The Idi Amin song:


The general, the president, the king of the sea
Idi, Idi, Idi Amin!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph6IpYBc_JA

Posted by: Musical Miklos at November 15, 2017 08:53 PM (zCyNd)

592 560. Idi Amin.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 08:48 PM (fA1SL)


He was another monster.


I hope it doesn't take 37 years to get rid of Erdogan. Man, I can't believe a guy who spent time in jail for being a radical Islamist could be voted in to such a high office. He will become a tyrant or dictator.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:54 PM (gg/Vm)

593 584
Who had Charles Manson in their death pool? He's about to go.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones


I think I smell sulfur. Beelzebub is warming up the industrial size Weber kettle.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 08:54 PM (LAe3v)

594 I was also accosted by several other men, but they're from Canada so you wouldn't know them.

Posted by: The Fifth Accuser at November 15, 2017 08:54 PM (gC2IV)

595 I hope he's steered clear of yearbooks.
Posted by: Another Chad at November 15, 2017 08:52 PM (GsAUU)



Nah. Sign it, "To a great piece of ass," (signed) [some Democrat politician]

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:54 PM (Llmo+)

596 The Royal Penis is Clean, Your Majesty.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 15, 2017 08:55 PM (oiItG)

597 I named my country Chad.
I loved chad and then I totaled him...

Posted by: Comrcial chick at November 15, 2017 08:55 PM (VDQek)

598 Third, Africa has been independent now for over half a century, and has done ... bupkis. Even formerly prosperous countries - Rhodesia and South Africa - are now struggling under black rule. Consider that in same time - half a century (from 1858 to 1905) - Japan went from a feudal society to a world power with a modern army and navy that kicked a European power's ass. They didn't need any "help" at all.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:48 PM

--Mark Steyn occasionally points out the contrast between Somaliland and Somalia.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 08:56 PM (GsAUU)

599 Speaking of Africa; There was a book I read years ago called The Boer War. It was written by Winston Churchill. I believe he was in the Army during it. Its a pretty good read.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 08:56 PM (pY+s4)

600 597
I named my country Chad.
I loved chad and then I totaled him...


Sounds hot.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 08:56 PM (LAe3v)

601 I just read Allan Quatermain in which he explores central Africa and discovers a white tribe, which he speculates are some of the Sea Peoples who explored inland and found a place to settle. A very isolated place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 08:56 PM (39g3+)

602 No dice.

First, Africa was only colonized in the latter part of the nineteenth century. So from Adam and Eve until then they had every opportunity to create nations they could be proud of. Recall Stanley and Livingstone; the "dark continent" was terra incognita to Europe for centuries after Europe had seen the Greeks, the Romans, etc., the Arabs had created their own cultures, and the Chinese and Japanese had created their own, with their own literature, science, architecture, philosophy, etc. Africa, not so much.

Second, the influence of "outsiders" - i.e., the colonial powers - was if anything beneficial. The former British colonies are the pick of the litter, followed by the French. Yeah, the Portuguese and Spanish colonies drew the short straw, but still, they were no worse off than before colonization.

Third, Africa has been independent now for over half a century, and has done ... bupkis. Even formerly prosperous countries - Rhodesia and South Africa - are now struggling under black rule. Consider that in same time - half a century (from 1858 to 1905) - Japan went from a feudal society to a world power with a modern army and navy that kicked a European power's ass. They didn't need any "help" at all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:48 PM (Llmo+)

Again though it's really the tribalism that is the problem. Europe didn't get very far at all until they started stamping that out and moved on to kingdoms and then nation states. I imagine eventually they will move beyond it, but when it happens is anyone's guess. It could be in fifty years or five hundred. They've got a lot of problems other places didn't have to deal with (ISLAM) and resources a lot of the rest of the world wants and will do anything to get (CHINA).

They'll get there eventually. Every dog has its day as they say. I'm also optimistic even Islam will eventually undergo a reformation of the type other religions have gone through. Again, it could be in fifty years or five hundred. I doubt we'll live to see it, but it's likely to happen.

Japan definitely did have some foreign influence to kick start their modernization. For example, their military received western training and weapons which they used to destroy the old shogun order.

Interesting thing I read about Japan is that Christianity had a really hard time catching on there because the Japanese couldn't understand how anyone could worship a convicted criminal. Not really germane to the topic but interesting nonetheless.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 08:56 PM (4ErVI)

603 Deplorable Jay Guevara

Leftist culture and education sure hurts Africa. We should look at the entire continent as a cautionary tale.

The more data is see in History the more I appreciate the Anglo-Sphere. The rest of the world had Heinlein's "Bad Luck".

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 15, 2017 08:57 PM (hyuyC)

604 >>> So no history book recommendations?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 08:41 PM (IYHxL)

Which topics mentioned got you piqued? And I agree with t-bird, if you drop this question in the Sunday Book Thread, asking for specific history topics, I bet you will get very cool recommends.

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 08:57 PM (hvf9s)

605 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 08:53 PM (RrhD2)

I made one comment that over the years it seemed that Astrology had shown some correlations.

buzzion then blew that up into me making a flat statement that astrology was a valid science and that I now had to prove that by telling him what his sign was.

I never made any claims that I was an astrologer.

You know You all are a bunch of grade schoolers sometimes.

Drawing conclusions from inserting in your own mind what was actually said then getting all up in the air about it.

This is a comment section of a blog. It's opinion not a scientific journal.

Get over yourselves.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead and Toxically Masculine) at November 15, 2017 08:57 PM (jcVMt)

606 >>>Who had Charles Manson in their death pool? He's about to go.

I guess he finally felt like wolf kabob Roth vantage, gefrannis booj pooch boo jujube; bear-ramage. Jigiji geeji geeja geeble Google. Begep flagaggle vaggle veditch-waggle bagga.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 08:58 PM (RrhD2)

607 Dearest girl, Merry Christmas! Your vote counts ! Moore for Senate! Oldde Hickorryy Houssee, 12.22.1977.

Supreme Court Judge, Ray Moore

Posted by: runer at November 15, 2017 08:58 PM (QC/4S)

608 80 I guess Robert Mugabe being named "The World Health Organization's Goodwill Ambassador" three weeks ago was the bridge too far?
Posted by: wooga at November 15, 2017 08:51 PM (VaOnS)


That said it all about the UN corruption. There have been a lot of bad things over the years, but this was an unforced error and impugned whatever was left of their credibility. Reprehensible.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:58 PM (gg/Vm)

609 Saw an ad for.... honestly I don't remember what. But it had this young black guy and showed him going through his life playing basketball and tryign to succeed. At one point in his College days, it shows him for once passing the ball to someone else instead of taking the shot.

To a white guy

Who then clanks the ball, misses the shot and loses the game.

Lesson you black kids: never pass the ball and never trust a white guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 08:58 PM (39g3+)

610 You know You all are a bunch of grade schoolers sometimes....
Get over yourselves.


You're not the boss of me.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 08:58 PM (LAe3v)

611 >>> >>>Who had Charles Manson in their death pool? He's about to go.

Not soon enough. Take Soros and McCain with you!

Posted by: LizLem at November 15, 2017 08:58 PM (hvf9s)

612 599
Speaking of Africa; There was a book I read years ago called The Boer
War. It was written by Winston Churchill. I believe he was in the Army
during it. Its a pretty good read.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 08:56 PM (pY+s4)

Key quote:


Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result

Posted by: The quotifying Miklos at November 15, 2017 08:59 PM (zCyNd)

613 buzzion then blew that up into me making a flat statement that astrology was a valid science and that I now had to prove that by telling him what his sign was

Well, what do you expect from a ghost

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:00 PM (39g3+)

614 Interesting thing I read about Japan is that
Christianity had a really hard time catching on there because the
Japanese couldn't understand how anyone could worship a convicted
criminal. Not really germane to the topic but interesting nonetheless.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 08:56 PM (4ErVI)

=========
Actually, it was making pretty solid headway in Southern Japan until the Jesuits started throwing their weight around. The Tokugowa subsequently pretty thoroughly wiped them out.

Posted by: Jackal at November 15, 2017 09:00 PM (o3+fQ)

615 Good olde Tokugawa

Posted by: runer at November 15, 2017 09:01 PM (QC/4S)

616
You're not the boss of me.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 08:58 PM (LAe3v)


So who died and made you king?

/s

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 15, 2017 09:01 PM (FEs5F)

617 History Book recommendation: The River, A Journey Back to the Source of HIV and AIDS.

Available used at Amazon for $200. I sold my copy for about $90 a few years ago.

It makes the slightly ambitious claim that HIV was brought about Sabin in testing the polio vaccine back in the 50s.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 15, 2017 09:01 PM (oiItG)

618 Thinking more about Africa (as well as other developing areas of the planet), it's actually quite a crime that they're importing the bright minds form those places into America. Those are the people who very well could put their own places on a stable path towards whatever their destiny will be. Instead they're over here taking jobs and churning out code on the cheap for the Zuck and the other oligarchs. That sort of brain drain is not helping anyone except the 1% pocketbooks.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:02 PM (4ErVI)

619 Actually, it was making pretty solid headway in
Southern Japan until the Jesuits started throwing their weight around.
The Tokugowa subsequently pretty thoroughly wiped them out.


Posted by: Jackal at November 15, 2017 09:00 PM (o3+fQ)


The culturally enriching remnant is tempura, introduced by the Portuguese.

Posted by: Benny Hana at November 15, 2017 09:02 PM (zCyNd)

620 Get over yourselves.

I will, but first....

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2017 09:02 PM (IcT7t)

621 Japan has a serious problem with anything deemed not culturally Japanese. They had a brief period in the 50s where they decided maybe adapting some of these dirty gaijin ideas wasn't so bad, but once they had became insular again. France is the same way, really.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:03 PM (39g3+)

622 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pauses-during-remarks-to-sip-water/

Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2017 09:03 PM (gm9yG)

623 618 Thinking more about Africa (as well as other developing areas of the planet), it's actually quite a crime that they're importing the bright minds form those places into America. Those are the people who very well could put their own places on a stable path towards whatever their destiny will be. Instead they're over here taking jobs and churning out code on the cheap for the Zuck and the other oligarchs. That sort of brain drain is not helping anyone except the 1% pocketbooks.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:02 PM (4ErVI)

--I mentioned the brain drain, but the flip side is that Affirmative Action does not help actual descendants of slaves, so much as descendants of Africans who sold out the original slaves to the slavers.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:04 PM (GsAUU)

624 Chad has the cutest dimple.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 09:04 PM (IqV8l)

625 I've heard one theory that civilization in Africa stalled because there's a lack of good harbors & such along the African coastline. Africa is twice the landmass of Europe, but only half the coastline. No ports or harbors means no seafaring, which means no trade or exploration or interaction with other cultures, which is the cornerstone of civilization.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:04 PM (ANIFC)

626 I'll never forget being on my one and only business trip to Long Beach back in 1998 when McGuire and Sosa were battling for the steroid era home run title. I date it because that was all the TV was showing for like 2 weeks.

Anyway, I did some sight seeing and bought a few cool T-Shirts with cotton so durable I still have them today. There was this surf shop on the main drag and in the window was a supersized photo of Charles Manson. It bothered me but it helped me understand California is a weird f-ing place.

Posted by: charley horse at November 15, 2017 09:04 PM (+kahX)

627 618 Thinking more about Africa (as well as other developing areas of the planet), it's actually quite a crime that they're importing the bright minds form those places into America. Those are the people who very well could put their own places on a stable path towards whatever their destiny will be. Instead they're over here taking jobs and churning out code on the cheap for the Zuck and the other oligarchs. That sort of brain drain is not helping anyone except the 1% pocketbooks.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:02 PM (4ErVI)

On the other hand, they would not be coming here if their home countries were the socialist paradises they are billed as.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 15, 2017 09:04 PM (rb1zT)

628 I hope it doesn't take 37 years to get rid of Erdogan. Man, I can't believe a guy who spent time in jail for being a radical Islamist could be voted in to such a high office. He will become a tyrant or dictator.

Become? He passed that during the last "coup attempt".

Fer crissake, he had thugs beat up US sailors on the pier in Istanbul!

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (fVubI)

629 622 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pauses-during-remarks-to-sip-water/
Posted by: Ian S.



WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT!!!!

Posted by: The voices in Maxine Waters head at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (pY+s4)

630 So I'm back from Kohl's where I had a thirty percent off coupon if I used my Kohl's card. Picked out some luggage that was marked down 50%. Went to the counter to buy my luggage and no wallet. No Kohl's card. So we went to Culver's.


So, Africa, eh?

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (lwiT4)

631 622 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pauses-during-remarks-to-sip-water/
Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2017 09:03 PM (gm9yG)

[Amends Articles of Impeachment]

Posted by: Maxine Waters at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (GsAUU)

632 621 Japan has a serious problem with anything deemed not culturally Japanese. They had a brief period in the 50s where they decided maybe adapting some of these dirty gaijin ideas wasn't so bad, but once they had became insular again. France is the same way, really.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:03 PM (39g3+)

The problem with France is they don't keep their idea to themselves. From the French Revolution to Sartre, they've been primary exporters of absolutely toxic, nihilistic ideologies that have killed millions.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (4ErVI)

633 Everytime I read Sea People in these posts I think of the boys in South Park and that episode. Can't take it seriously.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (gg/Vm)

634 450 million for that DaVinci painting

Posted by: runer at November 15, 2017 09:06 PM (QC/4S)

635 The best thing about being a dictator, aside from the morning penis washing, is the supplemental titles you get:

- Supreme Holy and Righteous Commander of the Peoples Workers Collective

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 15, 2017 09:06 PM (oiItG)

636 Manson's on the stretcher?

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 15, 2017 09:06 PM (lwiT4)

637 622 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pauses-during-remarks-to-sip-water/
Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2017 09:03 PM (gm9yG)

Oh. For. Fuck's. Sake. For those of you not here in the afternoon, the Horde was riffing that the MSM would make a big deal about Trump drinking water. These people are beyond parody.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:06 PM (ANIFC)

638 634
450 million for that DaVinci painting

Posted by: runer at November 15, 2017 09:06 PM (QC/4S)


SOLD!!!!!!

Posted by: auctioneer at November 15, 2017 09:06 PM (zCyNd)

639 630. Had a friend of mine - a world traveller from the age when that meant something - who said once to me, 'Don't look too closely at Africa; it will only break your heart.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 09:06 PM (fA1SL)

640 My boyfriend was supposed to pick me up. His name was George...Glass.

Posted by: The Fifth Accuser at November 15, 2017 09:07 PM (gC2IV)

641
So who died and made you king?

Henry VII

Posted by: Henry VIII at November 15, 2017 09:07 PM (IqV8l)

642

I love the French! Also the Greek, and the Thai Tsunami!

Posted by: Barky Obumfuck at November 15, 2017 09:07 PM (qul7b)

643 >>That sort of brain drain is not helping anyone except the 1% pocketbooks.

Sure is helping the people leaving. Same reason it helped every immigrant who ever came here.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 09:07 PM (/tuJf)

644 !

Posted by: runner at November 15, 2017 09:08 PM (QC/4S)

645

All I want for Christmas is that Mugabe and Grace get the Ceaucescu treatment.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 15, 2017 09:08 PM (EZebt)

646 Does Hawaii still have a football program?

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 09:08 PM (g4lFK)

647 Big Fat Meanie @ 617- vaccine?
How about green monkeys? And then Canadian flight attendants. There's your answer.

Posted by: Eromero at November 15, 2017 09:08 PM (zLDYs)

648 625 I've heard one theory that civilization in Africa stalled because there's a lack of good harbors & such along the African coastline. Africa is twice the landmass of Europe, but only half the coastline. No ports or harbors means no seafaring, which means no trade or exploration or interaction with other cultures, which is the cornerstone of civilization.
Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:04 PM (ANIFC)


--Another history book recommendation:

Conquests and Cultures by Thomas Sowell. He touches on that, plus that Africa is a plateau, so the major rivers have cataracts not far upstream, which also disrupts transportation.

Migrations and Cultures, the companion, is also good.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)

649 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.

THey did that with Rubio too, such a ... I don't get it. Is there something i'm missing here, some bizarre cultural riff? Some Jon Stewart joke? Is it a New York thing? They don't drink water on the Acela?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:09 PM (39g3+)

650 WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT!!!!
Posted by: The voices in Maxine Waters head at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (pY+s4)

--DAMN IT!!!

This time I'm the bug.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:09 PM (GsAUU)

651 631 622 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.


Our esteemed media. Not reporting on LV developments...are there any? Or anything of substance.

This water story. This is why they get paid the big bucks. Why we don't respect them should be a rhetorical question.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 09:10 PM (gg/Vm)

652 The best thing about being a dictator, aside from the morning penis washing, is the supplemental titles you get:



- Supreme Holy and Righteous Commander of the Peoples Workers Collective


So is the guy in charge of the penis cleaners titled, "Supreme Holy and Righteous Commander of the Peehole Washer's Collective"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2017 09:10 PM (IcT7t)

653 When squash is served by Mrs Refugee, I always state "That was really delicious . . considering it was squash."


Squash is the gateway food to organ meats.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 09:10 PM (tbOMB)

654 I've heard one theory that civilization in Africa stalled because there's a lack of good harbors & such along the African coastline.

That probably plays a part but I think its mostly just that they live in equatorial tropical regions mostly and there's just no reason to do anything except live there. You have plentiful food, water, its never awfully cold. There's no pressure to be more than you are. No tight resources, no hostile environment. So why try?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:10 PM (39g3+)

655 SOLD!!!!!!
Posted by: auctioneer at November 15, 2017 09:06 PM (zCyNd)

Its fake ! I can tell

Posted by: Gloria Allred at November 15, 2017 09:10 PM (QC/4S)

656 Speaking of which - we seem to have lost chique afrique somewhere along the way. She was a bright spot amongst the regular rabble here. I hope she is well. Very smart lady. I cannot remember her home country. Nigeria?

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 15, 2017 09:10 PM (lwiT4)

657 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (4ErVI)

They have two very significant positive actions in history that I can think of off the top of my head but it is mostly screwing up the world.

1. Helping with the American Revolution ( if only to f with Britain)

2. Charles Martel

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 09:11 PM (2DOZq)

658 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.

They still think that's why Rubio didn't get the nomination.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2017 09:11 PM (IcT7t)

659 Third, Africa has been independent now for over half a century, and has done ... bupkis. Even formerly prosperous countries - Rhodesia and South Africa - are now struggling under black rule. Consider that in same time - half a century (from 1858 to 1905) - Japan went from a feudal society to a world power with a modern army and navy that kicked a European power's ass. They didn't need any "help" at all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 08:48 PM (Llmo+)

...

The entire continent...continent....has two steel mills. South Africa and Angola, I think.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 15, 2017 09:11 PM (yL25O)

660 Is there something i'm missing here, some bizarre cultural riff?

Trump's drinking is a metaphor for him drowning the little, forgotten people. It couldn't be more clear.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 09:11 PM (LAe3v)

661 I preach from time to time. I always have a water bottle with me. A dry throat can be a challenge. I need to have water handy.
This makes less than no sense.
Of course Hillary hacking out a lung was nothing.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:11 PM (nBr1j)

662 CNN also had a breaking news story about a dog with an ear infection that looked like Trump. I wish I was joking, honestly I do.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (ANIFC)

663 I've heard one theory that civilization in Africa stalled because there's a lack of good harbors & such along the African coastline. Africa is twice the landmass of Europe, but only half the coastline. No ports or harbors means no seafaring, which means no trade or exploration or interaction with other cultures, which is the cornerstone of civilization.

Not buying it. Rivers work just as well for trade.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (fVubI)

664 My boyfriend was supposed to pick me up. His name was George...Glass.
Posted by: The Fifth Accuser at November 15, 2017 09:07 PM (gC2IV)


Jan, you know that's a lie!

Posted by: Marcia, Marcia, Marcia at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (gg/Vm)

665 661. Yep. Deposited that lung-oyster right into her water tumbler and then took a drink.

Revolting woman.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (fA1SL)

666 661 I preach from time to time. I always have a water bottle with me. A dry throat can be a challenge. I need to have water handy.
This makes less than no sense.
Of course Hillary hacking out a lung was nothing.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:11 PM (nBr1j)

--Hillary's hot sauce: Cool

Trump's water: ZOMG

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (GsAUU)

667 Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 15, 2017 09:10 PM (lwiT4)

Yes . I hope someone did not unintentionally cross the line like with Muldoon .

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (2DOZq)

668 662 CNN also had a breaking news story about a dog with an ear infection that looked like Trump. I wish I was joking, honestly I do.
Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (ANIFC)

That's some nasty ear infection.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:13 PM (nBr1j)

669 I watched a cooking show on BBC where the guy made pizza with... I kid you not... butternut squash and brussels sprouts. He seemed very serious about it too. Like it was cuisine.

I preach from time to time. I always have a water bottle with me. A dry throat can be a challenge.

Every pastor I've ever seen has water at the pulpit. Its dumb not to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:13 PM (39g3+)

670 With all of their problems, lots of weapons seem to have found their way to Africa.

No shortage there.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 15, 2017 09:13 PM (nUkMr)

671 chique afrique

Nigeria, I think you are correct, grammie.

Posted by: Infidel at November 15, 2017 09:13 PM (4ZKcy)

672 Some years ago, The Met had an exhibit called "Year One." It was a survey of the art, artifacts and technology of different cultures worldwide in the year One.

Roman artifacts were portable sundials, blown glass with patterns, intricate metal armor with designs; Japan had exquisitely shaped pottery and swords, China had elaborate scrolls with bureaucratic records; Persia had incredibly detailed arms and armor. South America had calendars and jewelry. Africa had carved wooden sticks, masks with grass hair. Maybe some spears. No metal.

Posted by: vivi at November 15, 2017 09:13 PM (11H2y)

673

That wasn't water. Trump was actually drinking the cerebral spinal fluid of black babies he stole from prosperous upper middle class Detroit African Americans families.

Posted by: Hitlery Cliton at November 15, 2017 09:14 PM (qul7b)

674 Is there no editor left who knows the words "You've got to be f'n kidding me."

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:14 PM (nBr1j)

675 Every pastor I've ever seen has water at the pulpit. Its dumb not to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:13 PM (39g3+)
========================

Ya Rev has bottled water up there too, otherwise he'd be coughing up a lung before we ever got to the offertory.

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 15, 2017 09:14 PM (lwiT4)

676 Rubio got in on the Trump drinking water story.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yafjpbmy

Daily mail

Posted by: X-ray at November 15, 2017 09:14 PM (VDQek)

677 With all of their problems, lots of weapons seem to have found their way to Africa.

No shortage there.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 15, 2017 09:13 PM (nUkMr)

I forget which African country it is, but one of them has the AK 47 as the main symbol on their flag.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 09:14 PM (2DOZq)

678 Yeah,too bad Chique was a NeveTrumper and left.

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (LiyEm)

679 Not buying it. Rivers work just as well for trade.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (fVubI)

--The Congo and Zambezi have rapids close to the coast. The Niger is not much better.

The Nile is the only river that goes decently inland, and even it has its cataracts before the border of present day Egypt.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (GsAUU)

680 Revolting woman.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 09:12 PM (fA1SL)

++++++++++
Fight the power!!!

Posted by: Jane Fonda at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (n3hky)

681 677. Mozambique, innit?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (fA1SL)

682 654 I've heard one theory that civilization in Africa stalled because there's a lack of good harbors & such along the African coastline.

That probably plays a part but I think its mostly just that they live in equatorial tropical regions mostly and there's just no reason to do anything except live there. You have plentiful food, water, its never awfully cold. There's no pressure to be more than you are. No tight resources, no hostile environment. So why try?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:10 PM (39g3+)

My theory (or maybe I read it in a Victor Hansen book) was that weather played the most pivotal role in the developmental retardation of the non-temperate zones. Every time you build something up, Mother Nature knocks it down.

Posted by: charley horse at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (+kahX)

683 @677 - Mozambique. That's badass.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (oiItG)

684 Conquests and Cultures by Thomas Sowell. He touches on that, plus that Africa is a plateau, so the major rivers have cataracts not far upstream, which also disrupts transportation.

Still not buying it. The Ohio had a number of falls, including rapids(!) at Louisville -- yet it was a major trade route.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (fVubI)

685 Breaking News: Analpundit supporting a new 1991 accuser in her accusation. Expect Hot Air link soon to smother reports Allred won't release yearbook.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (mJ8mX)

686 Africa had carved wooden sticks, masks with grass hair. Maybe some spears. No metal.

Yeah as much as I like my Native American friends and all... they were pretty much in the same boat. They couldn't even figure out how to make damned wheel. They were stone age barbarians when the Europeans arrived with guns and Bach. It would be like aliens landing with teleportation and cellular regeneration technology. OK all you gotta do is use this stuff and stop killing us and we'll all get along!

YOU'RE DESSTROYING OUR CULTURE! BURN THEM! TORTURE THEM! KILL THEM!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (39g3+)

687 Yeah,too bad Chique was a NeveTrumper and left.

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (LiyEm)
=====================

Was she? I wish she'd come back, now that the wars are over.

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (lwiT4)

688 I could teach him how to drink it.

Posted by: Foam Bouy at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (kvb15)

689 My theory (or maybe I read it in a Victor Hansen
book) was that weather played the most pivotal role in the developmental
retardation of the non-temperate zones. Every time you build something
up, Mother Nature knocks it down.

Posted by: charley horse at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (+kahX)


Malaria is, and has always been, a major problem in central Africa.

Posted by: medical Miklos at November 15, 2017 09:17 PM (zCyNd)

690 I've heard one theory that civilization in Africa stalled because there's a lack of good harbors & such along the African coastline. Africa is twice the landmass of Europe, but only half the coastline. No ports or harbors means no seafaring, which means no trade or exploration or interaction with other cultures, which is the cornerstone of civilization.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:04 PM (ANIFC)


========

Doesn't Russia suffer from a lack of warm water ports?

I always assumed it was Africa's climate. Ie. European climate with harsh winters, growing seasons, etc. produced the need for technological innovation in order to survive.

Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at November 15, 2017 09:17 PM (/qEW2)

691

"Your claim that they had no contact is not substantiated by any evidence. In fact there is some to indicate that individual travelers explored and influences many of the tribes and nations in the western hemisphere."

Tell me that NONE of the evidence is sourced from/through Ivan Van Sertima. His evidence (in Ch3 of his book), consists of narration of a story and a drawing of the crafts used ... rather large jon-boats, with perhaps 8" of freeboard.


FWIW, Thor Heyerdahl made a rather convincing argument that there was never any Med/Africa-Central/S. America contact ...

... See Thor's selfie in this photo:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycn8d4wb

Thor's book has a couple more ... one including Mr. Jaws: a very real, very large, obviously hungry and very close shark.

Posted by: Arbalest - GNAMM Survivor at November 15, 2017 09:17 PM (FlRtG)

692 "Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run? I'll take a city, a state, a country, whatever."

Look up Botswana, which USED to be one of the poorest countries on earth but has improved a lot in the past 50 years, and has had a consistent history of democratic (small d) elections with little or no fraud.

Posted by: Secret Square at November 15, 2017 09:18 PM (9WuX0)

693 The wars are never over!

Posted by: Longbows at November 15, 2017 09:18 PM (QC/4S)

694
Malaria is, and has always been, a major problem in central Africa.

Malaria was the one thing I was afraid of in Africa. Well that, and the drivers. I saw a guy carrying a cow on a motorcycle. He wasn't Muslim so I don't think it was a date.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:18 PM (nBr1j)

695 Several African nations have had a great run for a while, then some despot takes over. Unfortunately they tend to do so only under what is essentially a benevolent dictator for life.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:19 PM (39g3+)

696 hope it doesn't take 37 years to get rid of Erdogan. Man, I can't believe a guy who spent time in jail for being a radical Islamist could be voted in to such a high office. He will become a tyrant or dictator.

Become? He passed that during the last "coup attempt".

Fer crissake, he had thugs beat up US sailors on the pier in Istanbul!
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:05 PM (fVubI)


His bodyguards also beat up on US citizens protesting at the Capitol (?) during his visit here. And when our guys finally stopped them, Erdogan was pissed off. I think we had to send our Ambassador to explain or something. He is crazy bad.

And in the catbird seat with the EU. He is extorting them; he can unleash more migrants if they don't comply with certain things. Merkel made a deal with the devil on that one.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 09:19 PM (gg/Vm)

697 This impromptu history thread is the dopeness. Thanks horse

Posted by: Tyree - From the mad real world at November 15, 2017 09:19 PM (IYHxL)

698 Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at November 15, 2017 09:17 PM (/qEW2)

The Inuit did not do too well with developing anything. Except maybe ear tug a war. Owww!

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

699 This means but one thing.. Moore must withdraw...

Posted by: Old Turtle at November 15, 2017 09:19 PM (9dH/8)

700 Breaking News: Analpundit supporting a new 1991 accuser in her accusation. Expect Hot Air link soon to smother reports Allred won't release yearbook.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (mJ8mX)

The Southern white Christian hatred is on full blast. Its quite disturbing.

And the 1991 story is laughable.

I hope all these people get a year in prison for false allegations.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 09:20 PM (g4lFK)

701 Open Season:

...Sen. Sara Gelser says a fellow legislator touched her breasts and placed his hand on her thigh under a dais. And she says as many as 15 other women have also accused Sen. Jeff Kruse of unwanted touching. Gelser, who has previously accused Kruse, R-Roseburg,...

Posted by: gNewt at November 15, 2017 09:20 PM (kvb15)

702 643 >>That sort of brain drain is not helping anyone except the 1% pocketbooks.

Sure is helping the people leaving. Same reason it helped every immigrant who ever came here.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 09:07 PM (/tuJf)

They shouldn't even be here. We've let in almost 100 million people since 1965 and it's probably more than that. The population of this country was 250 million when I was a senior in high school in 1989. It's now 325 million. It's ridiculous and it's been causing huge fucking problems for years. The rate of immigration legal and illegal should be zero and it should be zero for at least 100 years if not longer. We're already fucked as it is though.

Better they stay where they are and improve their own countries. Those countries need them more than we need them to write code or run hotels or whatever they're doing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:20 PM (4ErVI)

703 Still not buying it. The Ohio had a number of falls, including rapids(!) at Louisville -- yet it was a major trade route.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (fVubI)

--The link between river and ocean is crucial.

Then again, the Europeans invented watermills, so a phenomenon like the Fall Line (I'm a Virginian so I learned about that in fifth grade) is not as bad as it was for peeps who never bothered to come up with that stuff.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:20 PM (GsAUU)

704 BTW, the yearbook was distributed in August so she carried it around with her for 5 or so months to get people to sign it! Didn't we all do that?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2017 09:21 PM (mJ8mX)

705 This means but one thing.. Moore must withdraw...
Posted by:

How do you think he keeps getting away with it?

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 09:21 PM (g4lFK)

706 681 677. Mozambique, innit?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (fA1SL)


Mozambique invented the Mozambique. And of course, Rule 303 was coined there, unless I am mistaken.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 09:21 PM (tbOMB)

707 The Inuit did not do too well with developing anything. Except maybe ear tug a war. Owww!



How to survive is sub zero temperatures counts

Posted by: Longbows at November 15, 2017 09:21 PM (QC/4S)

708 >>Look up Botswana, which USED to be one of the poorest countries on earth but has improved a lot in the past 50 years, and has had a consistent history of democratic (small d) elections with little or no fraud.

My sister spent a couple years there helping run a school. They have done a pretty good job of running the place since independence.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 09:22 PM (/tuJf)

709
Was she? I wish she'd come back, now that the wars are over.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha


They are?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2017 09:22 PM (IqV8l)

710 I saw a guy carrying a cow on a motorcycle.

I guess he couldn't steer it.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 09:22 PM (LAe3v)

711 "I've heard one theory that civilization in Africa stalled because
there's a lack of good harbors such along the African coastline.
"

And yet the penal colony of Australia out preforms them.

Posted by: X-ray at November 15, 2017 09:22 PM (VDQek)

712 Off

Posted by: runner at November 15, 2017 09:22 PM (QC/4S)

713 Now heralded for killing and driving white people from the country and returning it to its 3rd world shit hole status.

Zimbabwe was never a country until after they took Rhodesia from the Rhodesians. who actually settled the land and made it a country.

Sure, there were tribes there, just like there were tribes of people in the US. But these tribes were neolithithic, still not even coming close to what what Egypt, China, India, Assyria, Sumeria, Babylon and Persia had accomplished thousands of years ago.

MuGabe is just a tribal commie.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 15, 2017 09:23 PM (bdKoh)

714 A little prayer for Roy Moore

1 Plead my cause, O LORD, with them that strive with me: fight against them that fight against me.
2 Take hold of shield and buckler, and stand up for mine help.
3 Draw out also the spear, and stop the way against them that persecute me: say unto my soul, I am thy salvation.
4 Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that devise my hurt.
5 Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the LORD chase them.
6 Let their way be dark and slippery: and let the angel of the LORD persecute them.
7 For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul.
8 Let destruction come upon him at unawares; and let his net that he hath hid catch himself: into that very destruction let him fall.
9 And my soul shall be joyful in the LORD: it shall rejoice in his salvation.
10 All my bones shall say, LORD, who is like unto thee, which deliverest the poor from him that is too strong for him, yea, the poor and the needy from him that spoileth him?
11 False witnesses did rise up; they laid to my charge things that I knew not.
12 They rewarded me evil for good to the spoiling of my soul.
13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.
14 I behaved myself as though he had been my friend or brother: I bowed down heavily, as one that mourneth for his mother.
15 But in mine adversity they rejoiced, and gathered themselves together: yea, the abjects gathered themselves together against me, and I knew it not; they did tear me, and ceased not:
16 With hypocritical mockers in feasts, they gnashed upon me with their teeth.
17 Lord, how long wilt thou look on? rescue my soul from their destructions, my darling from the lions.
18 I will give thee thanks in the great congregation: I will praise thee among much people.
19 Let not them that are mine enemieswrongfully rejoice over me: neither let them wink with the eye that hate me without a cause.
20 For they speak not peace: but they devise deceitful matters against them that are quiet in the land.
21 Yea, they opened their mouth wide against me, and said, Aha, aha, our eye hath seen it.
22 This thou hast seen, O LORD: keep not silence: O Lord, be not far from me.
23 Stir up thyself, and awake to my judgment, even unto my cause, my God and my Lord.
24 Judge me, O LORD my God, according to thy righteousness; and let them not rejoice over me.
25 Let them not say in their hearts, Ah, so would we have it: let them not say, We have swallowed him up.
26 Let them be ashamed and brought to confusion together that rejoice at mine hurt: let them be clothed with shame and dishonour that magnify themselves against me.
27 Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.
28 And my tongue shall speak of thy righteousness and of thy praise all the day long.

Posted by: MAGA at November 15, 2017 09:23 PM (LnOh3)

715
Doc Emrick would make reading out the phone book sound thrilling.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 15, 2017 09:23 PM (3bujA)

716 Off tyree sock

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 09:23 PM (IYHxL)

717
Then again, the Europeans invented watermills, so a phenomenon like the Fall Line (I'm a Virginian so I learned about that in fifth grade) is not as bad as it was for peeps who never bothered to come up with that stuff.
Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:20 PM (GsAUU)

And watermills helping in the making of whiskey, which is another cornerstone of civilization.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:23 PM (ANIFC)

718 692. Of course, they've got a 25% HIV rate among adults, a standard of living roughly equivalent to that of Mexico, and a life expectancy of 55.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 09:23 PM (fA1SL)

719 692 "Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run? I'll take a city, a state, a country, whatever."

Look up Botswana, which USED to be one of the poorest countries on earth but has improved a lot in the past 50 years, and has had a consistent history of democratic (small d) elections with little or no fraud.
Posted by: Secret Square at November 15, 2017 09:18 PM (9WuX0

--Heh, personal story: I was in the 600 Club at Fenway Park back in 2000 and on the Jumbotron it was announced that the president and first lady of Botswana were in attendance. I heard applause, then turned around and saw they were just a couple of rows behind me, standing and waving at everybody. The whole club went over to shake hands with them.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:24 PM (GsAUU)

720 622 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pauses-during-remarks-to-sip-water/

Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2017 09:03 PM (gm9yG)


390 Un...oh...he's pulling a Rubio...drinking water.


THAT will be the MSM headline.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 03:41 PM (Enq6K)


Nailed it.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 09:24 PM (Enq6K)

721
There used to be some nasty people in Mozambique.

Posted by: otho at November 15, 2017 09:24 PM (qGuLD)

722 I dropped a check in the mail for the Meals for Rick L fund. It should arrive in about 10 days.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 09:24 PM (oPNmq)

723 685 Breaking News: Analpundit supporting a new 1991 accuser in her accusation. Expect Hot Air link soon to smother reports Allred won't release yearbook.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2017 09:16 PM (mJ8mX)

How can you stand to go over there?

I'm actually surprised he wasn't fired after The Great Drop In Traffic That Happened Just Out Of The Blue And Totes Didn't Have Anything To Do With Acting Like A Cuck During The Great Trump Rising.

Is Salem Nevertrump? They've gotta be if they're keeping that schmuck on the payroll.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:24 PM (4ErVI)

724 The Rwandan slaughter was pure tribal warfare. Hutus and Tutus I believe. And I could be wrong.

Hotel Rwanda was a most difficult movie to watch.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:25 PM (nBr1j)

725 For extra funsies on the dictator thread-


The Norkos have issued a death sentence on DJT.


Call in the elite ninja Russian prostitute bodyguard team!

Posted by: Newsy Miklos at November 15, 2017 09:25 PM (zCyNd)

726 Yeah as much as I like my Native American friends and all... they were pretty much in the same boat. They couldn't even figure out how to make damned wheel.

Actually, they had wheels on toys. They just hadn't figured out how to use them for serious purposes.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (fVubI)

727 It hasn't rained in several days
Hasa diga eebowai
And 80 percent of us have AIDS
Hasa diga eebowai

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (NWiLs)

728 >>Better they stay where they are and improve their own countries. Those countries need them more than we need them to write code or run hotels or whatever they're doing.

There is nothing at all wrong with a smart immigration plan that benefits this country. I sure am glad we took in a bunch of German scientists to help us run our nuclear program instead of them staying home and applying their craft there. The key is to have a smart immigration plan and not just throw the doors open to everyone.

The size of the country is sort of irrelevant unless you think we have hit the limit we can handle.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (/tuJf)

729 Hutus and Tutus I believe.


Tutsi. Well, unless there's a truly lost tribe we don't know about.

Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (LAe3v)

730 Malaria was the one thing I was afraid of in Africa. Well that, and the drivers. I saw a guy carrying a cow on a motorcycle. He wasn't Muslim so I don't think it was a date.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:18 PM (nBr1j)


That is hilarious.


Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (gg/Vm)

731 I dropped a check in the mail for the Meals for Rick L fund. It should arrive in about 10 days.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 09:24 PM (oPNmq)
=========================

I missed the information. Is there a link?

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (lwiT4)

732 724 The Rwandan slaughter was pure tribal warfare. Hutus and Tutus I believe. And I could be wrong.

Hotel Rwanda was a most difficult movie to watch.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:25 PM (nBr1j)

Tutsis.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 09:27 PM (NWiLs)

733 Tutsi. Well, unless there's a truly lost tribe we don't know about.
Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (LAe3v)

You are right--I was too lazy to confirm.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:27 PM (nBr1j)

734 I always assumed it was Africa's climate.

But what is "Africa's climate"? Seems just as varied as any other continent (we're just talkin' Big Five here, Australia and Antarctica!). The Incans didn't seem to care about ports. The Indians and Thai and Cambodia got along in sweltering heat.

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 09:27 PM (pszv/)

735 729 Hutus and Tutus I believe.


Tutsi. Well, unless there's a truly lost tribe we don't know about.
Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (LAe3v)

Close relatives of the Leotard tribe.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 09:27 PM (NWiLs)

736 How has Liberia been?

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2017 07:32 PM (7ulel)

Malawi is possibly the best-run nation in Africa.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 09:27 PM (oPNmq)

737 Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:25 PM (nBr1j)


I watched a woman retell her story at a faith summit. Pretty awe inspiring and gut wrenching.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (IYHxL)

738 Malaria was the one thing I was afraid of in Africa. Well that, and the drivers. I saw a guy carrying a cow on a motorcycle. He wasn't Muslim so I don't think it was a date.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking



My main concern when I went to Africa was disease. Any disease. Malaria was just one of them.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (pY+s4)

739 724 The Rwandan slaughter was pure tribal warfare. Hutus and Tutus I believe. And I could be wrong.

Hotel Rwanda was a most difficult movie to watch.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:25 PM (nBr1j)


--Even more heartbreaking?

Shooting Dogs.

John Hurt was of course excellent in it.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (GsAUU)

740 726 Yeah as much as I like my Native American friends and all... they were pretty much in the same boat. They couldn't even figure out how to make damned wheel.

Actually, they had wheels on toys. They just hadn't figured out how to use them for serious purposes.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (fVubI)

The Mayans had the wheel, which they used for a calendar. There were South Pacific tribes that used the wheel for money. But again, not for transportation.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (ANIFC)

741 724 Yet it is all the white mans fault because their troops protected their nationals rather than getting involved a tribal war....

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (LiyEm)

742 The Rwandan slaughter was pure tribal warfare. Hutus and Tutus I believe. And I could be wrong.

Hotel Rwanda was a most difficult movie to watch.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:25 PM (nB

Clinton sat back and watched that happen. Not a peep from the press. A Republican would have been crucified.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (2DOZq)

743 Yeah, I miss chique. I think she lives more or less in my area, too, although I've never met her.

Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

744 729
Hutus and Tutus I believe.


Tutsi. Well, unless there's a truly lost tribe we don't know about.


Posted by: pep at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (LAe3v)


Not me, man! I was sorting my chasubles!

Posted by: Bishop Desmond Tutu at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (zCyNd)

745 "Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites



Posted by: logprof"

BS. It was almost entirety due to international pressure. Mugabe and his band of socialists were about as good at running a military operation as they are at running farms

Posted by: Ripley at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (NbRJx)

746 Interesting fact: in the Anglican and Methodist denominations, the most conservative dioceses are in Africa.

The Prime Minister that Carter ousted was a Methodist Bishop.

The missionaries evangelized Africa and the Africans actually believed them. In fact, African bishops have on occasion talked of sending missionaries to America, because of the degraded theology there. The UMC desperately wanted to go homo, but because there were actually more members in Africa, they got outvoted. The Anglican church has a different policy, so the Episcopalians were able to flip off the rest of the Anglican communion and wave their freak flag loud and proud.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (/qEW2)

747 His bodyguards also beat up on US citizens protesting at the Capitol (?) during his visit here. And when our guys finally stopped them, Erdogan was pissed off. I think we had to send our Ambassador to explain or something. He is crazy bad.


Oh, yeah. Then he arrested some of the Turks who work at our consulate in Istanbul, saying (of course!) they were agents of his bete noir, Guhlen.

So we stopped issuing visas for Turks, and he stopped issuing visas for Americans, and then the tourism industry in Turkey reminded which way the money flows in that arrangement, and it was all cleared up as a great big misunderstanding.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (fVubI)

748 686- Native Americans had to deal with crappy weather in the US years ago but it didn't drive them to develop any technology.

Howcome antibiotics, the internet, and the automobile and indoor plumbing aren't considered 'cultural appropriation." ? People can enjoy wearing their big hoop earrings sitting in the dark stuck at home and pooping in a bucket until they get a cut that goes septic and they die.

Posted by: vivi at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (11H2y)

749 How can you stand to go over there?
It was linked at Insty's so I held my nose and dove in admittedly without checking where the link was from first. Lucky I don't go swimming that way.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (mJ8mX)

750 --Even more heartbreaking?

Shooting Dogs.

John Hurt was of course excellent in it.
Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (GsAUU)

Cop movie?

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (NWiLs)

751 Salem is NeverTrump. They are corporate conservatives.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (g4lFK)

752 I'm dying over here. LOL

Posted by: charley horse at November 15, 2017 09:30 PM (+kahX)

753 745 "Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites



Posted by: logprof"

BS. It was almost entirety due to international pressure. Mugabe and his band of socialists were about as good at running a military operation as they are at running farms
Posted by: Ripley at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (NbRJx)

--Might wanna adjust my comment so I don't look like a idiot.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:30 PM (GsAUU)

754 737 Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:25 PM (nBr1j)


I watched a woman retell her story at a faith summit. Pretty awe inspiring and gut wrenching.
Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (IYHxL)

I believe I saw the same woman at a Catholic conference I attended not too log ago. Very powerful.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:30 PM (ANIFC)

755 724 The Rwandan slaughter was pure tribal warfare. Hutus and Tutus I believe. And I could be wrong.

Hotel Rwanda was a most difficult movie to watch.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 15, 2017 09:25 PM (nBr1j)

I spent the better part of a day reading about the situation that led up to that incident and it's just all around horrifying. The Hutus had something called the Hutu Power Movement and it was about as racist as something you'd see in a KKK charter. They had radio stations pumping this stuff out and even popular musicians making albums filled with this kill the Tutsi garbage.

All of this stuff was going on even before the plane with the leaders got shot down. That was just the spark that set it off. It was going to happen eventually no matter what.

That radio station had a couple of Europeans working there as well and yep they were on air personalities also pushing the genocide. One of the saddest situations was a Catholic priest who helped participate in the genocide. It's just all around lunatic stuff.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:30 PM (4ErVI)

756 Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run? I'll take a city, a state, a country, whatever. Looks to me like they're ALL train wrecks.

Assuming Civ VI's designers did their homework (they generally do), Nubia under Amanitore did pretty well:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybhvowe6

Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2017 09:31 PM (gm9yG)

757 Phoenicians weren't Greeks, they were Semites. They founded Carthage, so it was always their city.

BTW Hannibal means "Lover of Ba'al"

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (3DZIZ)

758 Dearest girl, Merry Christmas! Let's meet later at the olde Theater and see Thor: Ragnarok! Judge Ray Moore.
Olde Hickory house, 12.22.1977

Posted by: runner at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (QC/4S)

759 grammie



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Posted by: Infidel at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (4ZKcy)

760 750 --Even more heartbreaking?

Shooting Dogs.

John Hurt was of course excellent in it.
Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (GsAUU)

Cop movie?
Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 09:29 PM (NWiLs)

--Nope, about the Rwandan genocide.

Also worth mentioning that it's one of the few movies made since 2000 portraying a Catholic priest as a hero.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (GsAUU)

761 Actually, they had wheels on toys. They just hadn't figured out how to use them for serious purposes.

What were the Aztecs gonna hitch them to? What were they gonna drive on?

It was the same in the Near East when that place went tits-up in 600 AD or so. The roads didn't work anymore so, no point in laying out all those denarii on all the moving parts that make up a cart. Just rent a camel from nice Mahmoud over there.

And then nice Mahmoud got himself an army of his own. Oops. But that's another story

[Source : Richard W. Bulliet, "Why They Lost The Wheel", Saudi Aramco World (May/June 1973), 22-25.]

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (6FqZa)

762 There is nothing at all wrong with a smart immigration plan that benefits this country. I sure am glad we took in a bunch of German scientists to help us run our nuclear program instead of them staying home and applying their craft there. The key is to have a smart immigration plan and not just throw the doors open to everyone.

The size of the country is sort of irrelevant unless you think we have hit the limit we can handle.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 09:26 PM (/tuJf)

We haven't had a smart immigration plan in almost 100 years.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (4ErVI)

763 Does anyone else find it strange that the Coup leader is now saying that Mugabe is voluntarily staying in his home so he can finally put up some shelves?

Posted by: Daybrother at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (pWz+o)

764 What happens at the lectern stays in the lectern

Posted by: Steve Gutenberg at November 15, 2017 09:33 PM (QLvwG)

765 Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:30 PM (ANIFC)

Was she the one holed up in a closet like thing with other members of her tribe? It was there she bargained and found God and had multiple close calls with being found.

She actually managed to forgive the soldier who massacred her family. That woman was awesome.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 09:33 PM (IYHxL)

766 Yeah as much as I like my Native American friends and all... they were pretty much in the same boat. They couldn't even figure out how to make damned wheel.



Many people don't seem to know that Native American tribes warred among themselves. The facepaint was not developed b/c of whites. People seem to have the idea they were a peace loving people who lived in some kind of Utopia. Yet pretty sure women were chattel, and warring was not uncommon. My memory may be faulty.

What we did was not right. We did not deal with them fairly. But they were also savage toward innocent people.

Somehow students are not being taught the whole picture. And seem to think America is the only country who has sinned. It's like saying all people have to be without sin. It's ridiculous. We at least have tried to make amends. Many countries don't. The SJWs are screaming about everything and nothing will appease them, IMO.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 09:33 PM (gg/Vm)

767 So, it's interesting to note that many, many Left/Liberal/Progs have accepted Rhodes Scholarships.

I have heard nothing in the way of outrage regarding the fact that these folks profited by their association with Rhodes. People like, oh, Rachael Maddow, George Stephanopoulos, Bill Clinton, et al, ad nauseam.

Posted by: Il Duce at November 15, 2017 09:33 PM (+y0ym)

768 692 "Here's a question for the apologists: what black-run polity in human history - i.e., ever - would you consider to be the best run? I'll take a city, a state, a country, whatever."

Look up Botswana, which USED to be one of the poorest countries on earth but has improved a lot in the past 50 years, and has had a consistent history of democratic (small d) elections with little or no fraud.
Posted by: Secret Square at November 15, 2017 09:18 PM (9WuX0



A worthy choice. Still, arguably, the result of "outsiders" - in this case, the British - sorting the place out when it was Bechuanaland, and the locals catching on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 09:33 PM (Llmo+)

769 Ont.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 09:33 PM (fA1SL)

770 Thank you Infidel! Thank you Tami! Love you, rickl!

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 15, 2017 09:33 PM (lwiT4)

771 The Inuit did not do too well with developing anything. Except maybe ear tug a war. Owww!

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 09:19 PM (2DOZq)


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Good point. Although I think they may have developed wife swapping as well.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 09:34 PM (/qEW2)

772 Many people don't seem to know that Native American tribes warred among themselves. The facepaint was not developed b/c of whites. People seem to have the idea they were a peace loving people who lived in some kind of Utopia. Yet pretty sure women were chattel, and warring was not uncommon. My memory may be faulty.

And some had entire cultures based upon capturing and torturing people to death in hideous ways. Nice.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 09:35 PM (Llmo+)

773 765 Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:30 PM (ANIFC)

Was she the one holed up in a closet like thing with other members of her tribe? It was there she bargained and found God and had multiple close calls with being found.

She actually managed to forgive the soldier who massacred her family. That woman was awesome.
Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 09:33 PM (IYHxL)

Yes, that was her. I wish I could remember her name.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 09:35 PM (ANIFC)

774 771 The Inuit did not do too well with developing anything. Except maybe ear tug a war. Owww!

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

========

Good point. Although I think they may have developed wife swapping as well.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 09:34 PM (/qEW2)

All about the way the Eskimo girls kiss.

Posted by: Beach Boys at November 15, 2017 09:36 PM (GsAUU)

775 I grew up in Calcasieu parish in LA. Named after a tribe of cannibals.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 09:36 PM (2DOZq)

776 Please detain Ogabe and Mooch.

Posted by: Bummer at November 15, 2017 09:37 PM (K3F/8)

777 Immaculée Ilibagiza <---- that's her.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at November 15, 2017 09:38 PM (IYHxL)

778 I hope this turns out okay. Coups in Africa don't have a great history. Mugabe is an evil guy, and today I'm just going to savor having he and his ghastly wife taken out of authority.

I read a story recently in DailyMail.co.uk about one of his sons posting a video on social media that went viral showing him pouring roughly $300 champagne over a super-expensive watch (like $60K) and bragging about getting the watch because "when Daddy runs the country"...

Best wishes for a happier time and democratic government in that nation.

Posted by: Jill V2 at November 15, 2017 09:38 PM (8zN2Y)

779 "Once heralded for seizing power from British rule and the nation's white elites

Posted by: logprof"
*******************************

The real fighters were NoKo. I think.

Posted by: gNewt at November 15, 2017 09:39 PM (kvb15)

780 What were the Aztecs gonna hitch them to? What were they gonna drive on?

It was the same in the Near East when that place went tits-up in 600 AD or so. The roads didn't work anymore so, no point in laying out all those denarii on all the moving parts that make up a cart. Just rent a camel from nice Mahmoud over there.

And then nice Mahmoud got himself an army of his own. Oops. But that's another story

[Source : Richard W. Bulliet, "Why They Lost The Wheel", Saudi Aramco World (May/June 1973), 22-25.]
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (6FqZa)


A nice apologia, but it doesn't wash. First, they could have repaired the roads, but didn't. They didn't have to build them, just keep the existing ones in good repair. Who build the roads for the Romans?

Second, you don't need animals to pull wheeled vehicles. See, e.g., rickshaws. Who pulled the stones that became the pyramids? People. How did they do it? With wheels (cylindrical rolling stock).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 09:39 PM (Llmo+)

781 https://youtu.be/uSQ_lWEtMb4

Posted by: Ted Striker at November 15, 2017 09:40 PM (kUotE)

782 ONT is Nood my ninjas.

Posted by: Monk at November 15, 2017 09:40 PM (g4lFK)

783 Posted by: Infidel at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (4ZKcy)

Well, geez, thanks, everybody.

I've looked at the Savor Health website, and while I'm sure the meals are good, they're really expensive. I haven't signed up for them yet.

What I need to do is stop being so lazy about cooking. That's easier said than done, especially as lazy as I am.

Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2017 09:40 PM (sdi6R)

784 Shooting Dogs.



John Hurt was of course excellent in it.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:28 PM (GsAUU)


Mississippi John Hurt hunted rabbits barefoot in the snow, Honkey! We know what you're getting at, racists Nazi!

Posted by: SJW at November 15, 2017 09:41 PM (n3hky)

785 Rwanda is trying to save the lowland gorilla. When they went to rebuild their country, they decided to use nature/wildlife tourism...I don't know the right term...rather than destroy thenland and let wildlife be destroyed.

They allow you to get really close to the lowland gorillas. I would love that, except the hike to get there and everything else means it'll never happen.

I don't know how Rwanda is doing now; this was over a decade ago, iirc.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 09:41 PM (gg/Vm)

786 What we did was not right. We did not deal with them fairly. But they were also savage toward innocent people.

Yeah the settlers were pretty terrible toward the Indians, but... my point was, why fight them and reject what they had? Why not accept the benefits and join in? Then nobody loses land because you're all living there together.

Rejecting houses and all the rest because you'd rather sit on the dirt and freeze every winter with flint knives is just... stupid.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:46 PM (39g3+)

787 What were the Aztecs gonna hitch them to? What were they gonna drive on?

Yeah better to just tie two sticks together and drag them in the dirt behind you or your dog. Clearly the only choice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 09:47 PM (39g3+)

788 I may sound a tad callous, but I bet with reflection it would come as a relief for the man not to have to worry about that pesky Christmas card list

Posted by: Kindltot at November 15, 2017 09:52 PM (2K6fY)

789 787



What were the Aztecs gonna hitch them to? What were they gonna drive on?
-----------

The Aztecs had roads with bike paths with signs and stuff, until you white devils fucked up nature, , you racist Honkey!

Posted by: SJW at November 15, 2017 09:52 PM (n3hky)

790
The Aztecs had roads with bike paths with signs and stuff, until you white devils fucked up nature, , you racist Honkey!


Posted by: SJW at November 15, 2017 09:52 PM (n3hky)

PREACH!!

Posted by: Jane Fonda at November 15, 2017 09:55 PM (n3hky)

791 PREACH!!


Posted by: Jane Fonda at November 15, 2017 09:55 PM (n3hky)


Jane is woke!

Posted by: Ward Churchill at November 15, 2017 09:56 PM (n3hky)

792 So on balance the Sea Peoples could only have come
from, duh, the sealands: the Aegean mostly, possibly Sicily and Sardinia
too if we follow Robert Drews (the Nuragic cultures).
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 08:49 PM (6FqZa)


Aren Meier is doing digs at Al es-Safi which he has identified as Gath, one of the principal Philistine cities.
He cites the material culture, cult objects and construction techniques as coming form all over the Mediterranean from Crete to Greece and Anatolia.

He also does things like analyze pig bones and discovers that the Asian pigs found prior to the founding were supplanted by European pigs.

That man is sooo happy.


Posted by: Kindltot at November 15, 2017 10:10 PM (2K6fY)

793 Just noticed on Ingraham's show (FNC) that Judge Moore appears to know how to put a full windsor on in the tie department.
He should step down and teach these other weasels how to wear that superfluous 'fashion'. /s

Posted by: micky at November 15, 2017 10:15 PM (dF9Lb)

794 I hope it doesn't take 37 years to get rid of
Erdogan. Man, I can't believe a guy who spent time in jail for being a
radical Islamist could be voted in to such a high office. He will
become a tyrant or dictator.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moose mussed at November 15, 2017 08:54 PM (gg/Vm)

"Will become"? He is already. Only way he goes out is by a bullet in the head.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 10:17 PM (oPNmq)

795 You guys, CBS wrote an entire story about how Trump drank some water while giving a speech. I am not making this up.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pauses-during-remarks-to-sip-water/



Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2017 09:03 PM (gm9yG)

Heh, that was running on the chyron on the CTV news channel here in Canada. I pointed it out to the others in the bar, and we all laughed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 10:23 PM (oPNmq)

796
...Sen. Sara Gelser says a fellow legislator
touched her breasts and placed his hand on her thigh under a dais. And
she says as many as 15 other women have also accused Sen. Jeff Kruse of
unwanted touching. Gelser, who has previously accused Kruse,
R-Roseburg,...
Posted by: gNewt at November 15, 2017 09:20 PM (kvb15)


But Niel Goldscmidt? Now there was a stellar mayor of Portland, Governor and cabinet member for Jimma Catuh.
That whole raping the sitter thing was just useful, and the fact that he ditched his State Police escort to do it was just to be expected.


Posted by: Kindltot at November 15, 2017 10:24 PM (2K6fY)

797 Persia had incredibly detailed arms and armor. South
America had calendars and jewelry. Africa had carved wooden sticks,
masks with grass hair. Maybe some spears. No metal.

Posted by: vivi at November 15, 2017 09:13 PM (11H2y)

To be scrupulously fair, West Africa, in the region of Ghana, did develop an iron industry circa 1500 A.D., IIRC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 10:29 PM (oPNmq)

798 Maybe it has nothing to do with climates or ports. Some cultures are simply not inquisitive or whimsical and have bizarre moral instincts.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 10:30 PM (/qEW2)

799 We do not see a connection between "Itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot biki" and the birth of modern civilization, but perhaps there is one.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 10:31 PM (/qEW2)

800 The Nile is the only river that goes decently inland, and even it has its cataracts before the border of present day Egypt.

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2017 09:15 PM (GsAUU)

Of course, other civilizations, confronted with that problem, found work-arounds. Canals with locks, railways, etc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 10:32 PM (oPNmq)

801 What were the Aztecs gonna hitch them to? What were they gonna drive on?



It was the same in the Near East when that place went tits-up
in 600 AD or so. The roads didn't work anymore so, no point in laying
out all those denarii on all the moving parts that make up a cart. Just
rent a camel from nice Mahmoud over there.



And then nice Mahmoud got himself an army of his own. Oops. But that's another story



[Source : Richard W. Bulliet, "Why They Lost The Wheel", Saudi Aramco World (May/June 1973), 22-25.]

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2017 09:32 PM (6FqZa)

Wheels can be useful without draft animals, or roads. A simple wheelbarrow allows a man (or woman) to move several hundred pounds of cargo with minimal effort, even on a narrow path.
A crafty fellow by the name of John M. Studebaker made himself a small fortune building wheelbarrows for prospectors in the California gold rush of '49.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 10:43 PM (oPNmq)

802 NPR (put down the stones) broadcast a three-part series a few years ago on the Congo. Called that river the superhighway of Africa.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 15, 2017 10:58 PM (VQjk/)

803 Canals and locks fascinate me. The engineering that it took to build those things! And I doubt that most of those guys had anything to study; they were the ground breakers.

We tend to think of the 1800s as primitive, but those guys knew their stuff with machinery and marble. For proof of the latter, visit state Capitols.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 15, 2017 11:08 PM (VQjk/)

804 Mugabe oversaw the transition of Zimbabwe from the "Bread Basket of Africa" to an "African basket case"

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 15, 2017 11:18 PM (e8kgV)

805 I don't want him detained, I want him beaten half to death, take bullet through the back of the head, and his body dumped in the river for the crocodiles the same as his victims. But I'll settle for a fair trial followed by a hanging.

Posted by: David at November 16, 2017 04:08 AM (4mIPl)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 16, 2017 04:41 AM (mpXpK)

807 My doggy woke me up so I came on in here to see what you guys were up to at this hour. I know you have moved on to upper threads, but I gotta say this: I was living in Iran at the time of the Great Jimmy Carter "purge" of "civil rights" violators like the Shah. In my opinion he single handedly started the Islamic mess in the Middle East. We surely see "human rights" being recognized in Iran now! Good Job, Jimmy.

Posted by: AnnaS at November 16, 2017 06:48 AM (cHbIE)

808 Oh, look, a 41 yr. difference between Dictator Mugabe and his wife . . . What a perv!

Posted by: Said No Leftist/GOPe Ever at November 16, 2017 12:35 PM (EATOD)

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