Good News: A Steeler Issues an Apology for the Anthem Protest<br>Bad News: It Was the Lone Player Who Stood for the Anthem, Apologizing for "Throwing [His] Teammates Under the Bus"

Good News: A Steeler Issues an Apology for the Anthem Protest
Bad News: It Was the Lone Player Who Stood for the Anthem, Apologizing for "Throwing [His] Teammates Under the Bus"

America 2017: Only player forced by his team to apologize for national anthem reaction is the war vet who stood up
— Scott Greer (@ScottMGreer) September 25, 2017

They're fighting for free speech -- but they're going to haze, shame, and ostracize any among them who don't join them in the Coerced Speech.

Here is Alejandro Villaneuva, Afghan vet (two tours), now being made to apologize for not joining in the Pittsburgh Social Justice Warriors' anthem protest.

He's now telling a story -- probably a story pressured into him -- about how he "unintentionally" exited the tunnel to the field during the anthem and could not turn back and re-join his protesting Social Justice Warrior teammates.

Pittsburgh [SWJs] lineman Alejandro Villanueva says the national anthem ordeal got out of control and he is taking the blame.
"Unfortunately I threw my teammates under the bus, unintentionally," Villanueva said. "Every single time I see that picture of me standing by myself I feel embarrassed," Villanueva said in a press conference Monday.
Villanueva was the only [SJW] player standing outside the tunnel for the national anthem before their game Sunday against the Chicago Bears.
Villanueva says he asked quarterback Ben Roethlisberger if he could be out in front with the captains during the national anthem and they agreed to it, but when he went to the front of the tunnel to see the flag, he went too far unintentionally.
"When we came out of the locker room into that tunnel, it was a very small area. There was a flag or something coming off the field so there were a bunch of Bears fans, coming off the field holding that going in front of us, so it kind of held us up," Villanueva said.
The rest of the team remained in the tunnel.
"I made my teammates look bad, and that is my fault, and my fault only," Villanueva said. "We as a team tried to figure it out, but obviously butchered it."

This seems to be a reversal of his previous story:

It was an honor to serve two tours in Afghanistan. I stood out of respect for our military service members and because I love this country. pic.twitter.com/01H31KJwJR
— Alejandro Villanueva (@VillanuevaNFL) September 25, 2017

So if you're following this -- failed washout quarterback Colin Kaepernik has been grandstanding his lone protests for some time. No teams have demanded he apologize.

But the minute someone stands alone against the Social Justice Warriors, he is forced to apologize and claim -- probably dishonestly, pressured into lying -- that his gesture of honoring the flag was an "unintentional" "accident."

Question: I've talked about killing this league to send a powerful shudder through the Democrat-Entertainment Complex.

For those who disagreed -- any change of mind? Is the obnoxious escalation starting to make you question you devotion to the SJW NFL?

Clarification: I didn't mean to suggest that Villaneuva was dishonorable for this. I meant to suggest the Pittsburgh SJWs were dishonorable for pressuring him to say these things.

I was trying to say an honorable man has been pressured by an organization which pays him -- and could cut him -- into apologizing for having honor.

They can do this. Not all Soviets believed in communism. But they were made to publicly proclaim that they did.

As a soldier, he's probably well aware of the dangers of a soldier who is despised by his teammates. Fraggings happen.

Their free speech is sacrosanct; yours will be punished. Clear enough for everyone?

...

BTW, the San Antonio Spurs of Social Justice coach has now weighed in -- and he says you need to #CheckYourWhitePrivilege.

Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.' pic.twitter.com/whTL7y4ktu
— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) September 25, 2017

Posted by: Ace at 06:41 PM

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1 I thought he had sand.

I guess not.

Posted by: rd at September 25, 2017 06:42 PM (4dz1m)

2

It's like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 25, 2017 06:42 PM (/XLap)

3 Oh, man, this is getting embarrassing...

Posted by: JEM at September 25, 2017 06:43 PM (TppKb)

4 Heard this a.m., his was the most popular NFL jersey. Think the past tense will remain the proper usage.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 25, 2017 06:43 PM (hKi6n)

5
THEY "got to" him, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 25, 2017 06:43 PM (/XLap)

6 San Antonio, Ace.

Posted by: dantesed at September 25, 2017 06:44 PM (88xKn)

7 You knew this was coming from the start.
Reminds me on the POW's confessing their war crimes on TV.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 06:44 PM (it+WZ)

8 again, the Texans did not honour the flag when they locked arms. they were covering for the players who were saying God Damn America in their hearts.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 06:44 PM (mXimO)

9
Somewhere out there there are alt-left alien pods with all our dopplegangers in them.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 25, 2017 06:44 PM (/XLap)

10 How many are now trying to return his jersey that they bought today?

Posted by: rd at September 25, 2017 06:44 PM (4dz1m)

11 the Steelers, likewise, were covering for the players who hate America.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 06:45 PM (mXimO)

12 Tomlin's 100%

Posted by: NCKate at September 25, 2017 06:45 PM (cGGgb)

13 Wow, that is sad. I had hoped he had more stones than this.

Posted by: IC at September 25, 2017 06:45 PM (a0IVu)

14 Uh, Gregg Popovich is the coach of the San Antonio Social Justice Warriors. And VERY liberal..but you knew that.

Posted by: dwagyak at September 25, 2017 06:45 PM (ReuAL)

15 I'm really hoping the Spurs will lose every game this year, but I know they're too good for that to happen, but God could send the devil as He did to Job? Popovich is a colossal moron.

Posted by: Cory at September 25, 2017 06:46 PM (insj0)

16 They got to him.

Fucking punk thugs. Pissant gangsters.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 25, 2017 06:46 PM (H5rtT)

17 I feel bad for him. Army training makes you part of a team- he believes he inadvertently let his team down by making it look like he was taking a stand that he wasn't taking. I'm sure there were LOTS of guys on his team who wanted to be on the field standing for the anthem, but as a team they decided to do something else to respect the wishes of the teammates who wanted to take a knee.

Anyway, I disagree with the weird0 knee-takers, but I'll stand with the veteran and obviously have no reason to doubt his patriotism.

Posted by: LASue at September 25, 2017 06:47 PM (Mjus2)

18 Yesterday I e-mailed my fantasy football league that I'll be dropping out at the end of the season.

Didn't mention why (but have explained to everyone who has contacted me). I've known these folks since the 70s, 80s, or 90s.

I'll visit those guys when I'm in NY. But I'm not wasting time on Football-related sites.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at September 25, 2017 06:47 PM (MCbul)

19 "We still have no clue of what being born white means."

Some less than others.

Posted by: OCBill at September 25, 2017 06:48 PM (df+Zi)

20 Trump wins

Posted by: Traddy at September 25, 2017 06:48 PM (I+VnM)

21 In other news:

2 + 2 = 5

-Winston Smith

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 25, 2017 06:48 PM (LWu6U)

22 Oh, and I'm military-ish (USAF). I have 40 people who work for me, on a 24-hour watch floor. We have huge TV/computer monitors for briefings, and charts, and watching the status of the stuff we watch.

It's no longer used for football. As of yesterday when I didn't use it for football (at least on my shift).

Posted by: Arch Stanton at September 25, 2017 06:48 PM (MCbul)

23 We are living in Kafka's Trial

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 25, 2017 06:48 PM (hMwEB)

24 Gregg Popovich: We still have no clue of what being born white means . . .

. . . but thanks to idiots like me, we know all about what being born stupid means!

Posted by: Gregg "I'm a pandering dumbass" Popovich at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (BXf9o)

25 >>"We still have no clue of what being born white means."

I was born a poor black child.

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (AoT+t)

26 " I've talked about killing this league to send a powerful shudder through the Democrat-Entertainment Complex."

NE Libs have been wanting to get rid of football at all levels for quite some time now. Killing the NFL - while a good idea for some reasons - is still a win for them.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (rznWS)

27 The left is Fully committed to free speech, and they will put all you fuckers in the gulag if they have to in order to achieve it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (LWu6U)

28 Ben Roethlisberger Regrets Steelers Boycotting Anthem

I was unable to sleep last night and want to share my thoughts and feelings on our team's decision to remain in the tunnel for the National Anthem yesterday.

The idea was to be unified as a team when so much attention is paid to things dividing our country, but I wish we approached it differently. We did not want to appear divided on the sideline with some standing and some kneeling or sitting.

As a team, it was not a protest of the flag or the Anthem. I personally don't believe the Anthem is ever the time to make any type of protest. For me, and many others on my team and around the league, it is a tribute to those who commit to serve and protect our country, current and past, especially the ones that made the ultimate sacrifice.

Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (Enq6K)

29 Actually Ace, I think what Alejandro is saying is that he and the other team captains were going to stand in the tunnel together with their hands on their hearts during the Anthem and that he somehow walked 20 feet forward without the others, separating him from the team. The QB Ben R. said the same thing last night. So Alejandro is not apologizing for showing reverence for the flag, he's apologizing for not standing next to the other team captains in the tunnel when he did it.

Posted by: Captain Kirock at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (W4/fk)

30 Villanueva's teammates made themselves look bad. What he did was fine.

Posted by: huerfano at September 25, 2017 06:50 PM (Dp2K8)

31 Some speech is freer than others.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 06:50 PM (oVJmc)

32 OT, sorry, but in light of all the PC/ SJW lunacy, I wish we could have a post sometime about the Best non- PC music/ musicians, books/ writers, movies/ directors... there is a lot of it.. and just in the past.

It all gets buried though, in the current event noise.

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 06:50 PM (zSVEm)

33 I don't even watch football but I so want them to die (ratings )

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 25, 2017 06:50 PM (hMwEB)

34 But "Bronze Star"

With 'V's !

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 06:50 PM (2wRtc)

35 I guess he never read "Lord of the Flies."

This island is on fire.

Whatcha gonna do?

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 06:50 PM (hI/9G)

36 This just makes the whole boycott even more enjoyable.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 06:50 PM (oVJmc)

37 Burn. It. Down.

Posted by: Oregon Is Dumber Than Dirt at September 25, 2017 06:50 PM (Mrl1e)

38
I'll bet a lot of people are going to burn their brand new jerseys.

The dumb ass.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (EgwCt)

39
Check!!

One hunnert per cent!! I gots mah hunnert per cent!!

Posted by: Coach Tomlin at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (92a7R)

40 Re: Popovich image

Boy, Cancer has been tough on Saruman the White.

Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (AoT+t)

41 I dont really watch football, so my boycott means nothing (I don't have TV, after all), but I wish those of us who are politically aligned against the left would stop giving these asshats our money.

Imagine if there was a mass movement in the NFL to sit during the star spangled banner to protest Obama and his policies when he was president.

Yeah, you can't. Because it wouldn't happen.

But if it DID, you can imagine the outrage of all of the same people who think it's totes okay to do that to protest racist white people and that if you're against that, you're a white supremacist.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (wmaTe)

42 30 Well said.

Posted by: LASue at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (Mjus2)

43 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (KCxzN)

44 It was nice to see that somebody in that rotten organization had some balls aaaaaaaand good feeling's gone.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

45 Just the same effect like what a baseball bat up side the head does to free speech. Same crowd only in team uniforms.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (it+WZ)

46 Well "he got his mind right."

Posted by: geoffb at September 25, 2017 06:51 PM (zOpu5)

47 So it looks like Trump's decision to call out the weasels forced them even further left, again demonstrating how despicable they are.

Larry O'Connor Show had a point though, you may not want to apparently diss one of the 300 lb homies on your team when the point of the game is to crash into each other on the field. Maybe it's better to be sure you always come home safe at night.

Sorry for the country, and sorry for the apologist Villanueva. At least in the 'stan you had an pretty good idea when you were outside the gates that they all wanted to kill you.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 06:52 PM (gwPgz)

48 Die nfl die and take your pederast friends from Hollywood with you

Posted by: Jihadi at September 25, 2017 06:52 PM (I64i9)

49 So I take it he changed his mind and now believes that white cops are hunting down black men?

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 06:52 PM (hI/9G)

50 the Left must be driven out of this country and all it's institutions. Period. I don't know what anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn't understand that. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

> I've talked about killing this league to send a powerful shudder through the Democrat-Entertainment Complex

It has to go beyond that. Goodell must be ruined. Every player that spit on Americans needs to be out of the league. Every coach and owner that supported this trash must be demonized.

You either keep a boot on the neck of the Left, or they put one on yours.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at September 25, 2017 06:52 PM (swEzU)

51 Wow...what did they threaten him with? This is the saddest fucking moment of this whole mess.

Posted by: Gem at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (5aq94)

52 The left should be happy, they are getting the fight they thought they wanted.

Let's see how that works out.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (/tuJf)

53 As penance Alejandro should burn Old Glory during the Star Spangled Banner in next week's game.

Then we will know if he's sincere.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (3nBGR)

54 Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

Oh, I see. I'm supposed to be mortified about it.

Thanks, douche.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (oVJmc)

55 You will be made to care.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (5IJky)

56 "We still have no clue of what being born white means."

Ok, George. Go take a solo one-year tour of Somalia, Zimbabwe, Sudan, and the sportier parts of Haiti. If you live - and that's a biiiiiiiig fucking if - come back and tell us all what you've learned. I assure you, we will all be waiting with bated breath.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (rznWS)

57 With luck, all those jerseys haven't shipped yet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (LTHVh)

58 >>So I take it he changed his mind and now believes that white cops are hunting down black men?

Hands Up!

Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (AoT+t)

59 For those who disagreed -- any change of mind?

As Ace goes, so goes the nation.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (XntMs)

60 So...

...who called the Code Red?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (oVJmc)

61 How many lights, Allejandro?

Posted by: Gem at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (5aq94)

62 Er, Gregg - whatever the hell your name is.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (rznWS)

63 Question: I've talked about killing this league to send a powerful shudder through the Democrat-Entertainment Complex.

For those who disagreed -- any change of mind? Is the obnoxious escalation starting to make you question you devotion to the SJW NFL?

LOL!!!! You mean there are actual people out there who don't just say "Fuck'em!"? Like, fr realz?

Hunh. Seriously, kids. Fuck'em!

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (CPk08)

64 ace > That would be the SPURS head coach. Used to be my favorite team. Done once Pop dissed Trump. Coincidentally TD retired.

Posted by: Golfman at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (48QDY)

65 They made the LT turn on HIMSELF, his own team did that to him... God, could a patriotic team pick him up when his contracts up please.

Boot on the face, forever, that's SJW for you.

Posted by: Scott_T at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (xGZ+b)

66
So it looks like Trump's decision to call out the weasels forced them
even further left, again demonstrating how despicable they are.
===

Military masks dropping.

Can't wait for the explanation of how Villanueva actually showed true respect and honor to the fallen by collapsing like a crack whore with her rocks threatened.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (2wRtc)

67 SCREW THE FUCK OUT OFF THE nSJWfl. I hope they loose everything they worked for. I swear I will never watch a single game ever again. I hate them as much as they hate me. Fuckem.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (0OmEj)

68 Unbelievable. SMH

Posted by: Scotty doesn't, No at September 25, 2017 06:54 PM (SOwie)

69 Sounds like all pro athletes can go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Editor at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (klSrY)

70 The image is still a good one...all those protesting players staying behind the Soldier.

Posted by: Vic's former neighbor at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (M+MSn)

71 The left should be happy, they are getting the fight they thought they wanted.

Let's see how that works out.
Posted by: JackStraw

----

They've got a win/win here.

They either destroy the masculine right wing institution of football...

...or they take it over and add it to their collection: journalism, education, entertainment, etc.

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (hI/9G)

72 Totally predictable.
I said yesterday that he should have resigned.

Posted by: navybrat at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (w7KSn)

73 Killing the NFL - while a good idea for some reasons - is still a win for them.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (rznWS)

Seems like they always come out with something, mostly surrendered by the conservatives, while we're left holding the flaming bag of dog poop!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (gwPgz)

74 Yes, my white father born to a single mother in the Depression had an unfair advantage.

He fought, scaped and worked his way to the middle class so I and my siblings didn't have to. He and my Mother demanded we do well in school, went to Church, and graduated from College. They only vacations they had were trips he won for meeting sales goals, and company paid training.

We had opportunities, because of their sacrifices. Just like my middle class black, hispanic, and white neighbors.

Posted by: rd at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (4dz1m)

75

Anyone else feel like Jor-El when Vulcan was about to explode, and we need to quickly put our baby Thor in a capsule for escape?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (/XLap)

76 I doubt he was made to apologize... he said yesterday that he agrees with what they're protesting, just not when they're doing it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (nnAye)

77 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

In honesty, he's right. It sounds like gibberish to me.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (LTHVh)

78 Watch the cancellation on the orders of his jersey start coming in.

Posted by: buzzion at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (z/Ubi)

79 Heard this a.m., his was the most popular NFL jersey. Think the past tense will remain the proper usage.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 25, 2017 06:43 PM (hKi6n)

Think this may be some insight into who has been buying NFL jerseys all along.

Posted by: Golfman at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (48QDY)

80 Here is a list of people you cannot trust for any clear analysis of what is going on:

1-Coaches who rely upon black players for their job
2-Owners who rely upon black players for their business
3-Any sports media who are black (they WILL NOT criticize any other black, I think its #1 rule in the blackman's handbook)
4-Any sports media that rely upon access to black athletes
5-All former liberal talk show hosts/producers posing as sports commentators (Hello Mike Salk - Seattle 710 Kiro)
6-Liberal/Dem/BLM
and finally.....drum roll....
7-All other players that are not black and hereby called "NFL Hostages".

Posted by: Ceasar at September 25, 2017 06:55 PM (x8dHd)

81 @27: " and they will put all you fuckers in the gulag if they have to in order to achieve it."

You misspelled "ground"

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (rznWS)

82 They want to make being born white a kind of original sin. That's what White Privilege is about.

Posted by: Wicked Auntie Daenyrys at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (cAXIk)

83 I still have no clue of what being born Gregg Popovich means.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (5VlCp)

84 This guy was an actual hero. He EARNED that bronze star with Valor. Fuck your comparison to those McCain and Kerry assholes, mortimer.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (BoMuO)

85 The NBA? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (INJFV)

86 This makes things worse.

Anyone who has worked high up in a corporation knows how this works.

"We need you to take one for the team. This is ruining the NFL & you were the front man. People see this as you disrespecting the team. If you say this everything will be better. Blah, blah, blah."

I'm sure there were many calls. Immense pressure. Hours of discussion. Wearing him down. I'm playing it out in my head.

They scripted his apology too...it is not authentic.

I feel for the guy, I really do.

But, it makes me double down.
I hope people read thru the lines and see this for what it is. Coercion. I could add a few more words.

It'd be great if this blows up in their face. It's up to the fans to see that it does.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (7TeYi)

87 Shouldn't be hard to boycott.

It's as depressing watching the Seahawks play as it is watching them do their SJW crap.

They suck on the sidelines AND on the field.

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (hI/9G)

88 I'm kind of surprised hey didn't make Villanueva wear a DUNCE cap while he admitted his WrongThink errors. That was all the rage during the Cultural Revolution.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (Mouru)

89 Ps Colin is white

Posted by: Jihadi at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (I64i9)

90 He could handle the muzz but not the scuzz.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (IqV8l)

91 >>'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

That's EXACTLY how it works!

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at September 25, 2017 06:56 PM (AoT+t)

92 bets on whether Greggy Pop is going to give up his white-privilege job to a black coach...

Posted by: Grad School Fool at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (swEzU)

93 There's a tape floating around somewhere, from the 1970's, a Russian guy explaining that not only does communism control your life and what you are and are not allowed to do/say/think, they also force you to LIE. They make you go out in public and tell lies. And they laugh about it behind your back, because everybody knows you are lying and that you are not able to tell the truth, even though everybody knows it.

And that's one of the ways they destroy people's souls.

Posted by: Boots at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (EBwPV)

94 28 Ben Roethlisberger Regrets Steelers Boycotting Anthem

I was unable to sleep last night and want to share my thoughts and feelings on our team's decision to remain in the tunnel for the National Anthem yesterday.

The idea was to be unified as a team when so much attention is paid to things dividing our country, but I wish we approached it differently. We did not want to appear divided on the sideline with some standing and some kneeling or sitting.

As a team, it was not a protest of the flag or the Anthem. I personally don't believe the Anthem is ever the time to make any type of protest. For me, and many others on my team and around the league, it is a tribute to those who commit to serve and protect our country, current and past, especially the ones that made the ultimate sacrifice.
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (Enq6K)

Damage control.

Posted by: buzzion at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (z/Ubi)

95 I had a small moment where I thought about buying his jersey. It passed. Now this.

Poor bastard. Maybe he and McCain can discuss how racist I am.

Posted by: nip at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (VqJRJ)

96 Time to slow the Villanueva love a bit, I guess.

Typical ranger step-on-your-dick behavior.

Posted by: Wahshiya at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (S3dtp)

97 Fuck these black agitators, malcontents and punks perpetrating a lie.

The NFL and NBA are dead to me.

I'm not going to watch a bunch of black millionaires who desecrate my flag and sacred traditions.

This racial, they made it racial so FUCK THEM.

And a special FUCK YOU to that weasel punk bitch Mike Tomlin and the Pitssburgh disgraces.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (9A6UB)

98 The whole squad just slaughtered a village of women and children and he just wants to be on that team. Don't rat out your teammates.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (it+WZ)

99 We still have no clue of what being born white means.

I like how the Left is going to stop racism by boiling everything down to race.

Do you have to be terminally-stupid to be an NBA coach?

Posted by: look at all the healing at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (ontrc)

100 I feel bad for him. Army training makes you part of a team-
-----------

Not necessarily.

Posted by: Bowe Bergdahl, Deserter at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (5IJky)

101 Coaches who rely upon black players for their job
2-Owners who rely upon black players for their business

Coaches and owners who forget about the fans who spend the money.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (BoMuO)

102 Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

It means I'm not a fucking loser.

Just spitballing here.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (sdi6R)

103 When it comes to morality, it can be really hard to do the right thing. I've seen guys with absolutely no fear of risking their life in combat suddenly wilt when it comes to making an unpopular decision or having to hand out disciplinary action in a peace-time situation.

With Villanueva, he has a hard choice to make. Does he do the right thing or the easy thing? Does he tell his teammates that, as a former officer and Army Ranger, that there is no way in Hell he is going to stop respecting the Anthem and the Flag? Or does he stay in the good graces of his whiny-ass teammates and bow to the immense amount of social pressure being currently piled on?

We know the answer to that question: He is taking the easy road, the path of least resistance. He will probably regret it for the rest of his life, but that's his burden now, and maybe some young officers out there will take note.....

Posted by: Pave Low John at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (OejZ/)

104 Wow...what did they threaten him with? This is the saddest fucking moment of this whole mess.

Posted by: Gem at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (5aq94)

47 and
Perhaps getting "inadvertently" tackled hard by the 300 lb bozo who had no problem taking a knee!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (gwPgz)

105
This guy was an actual hero. He EARNED that bronze star with Valor. Fuck
your comparison to those McCain and Kerry assholes, mortimer.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
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Yeah.

He's awesome.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (2wRtc)

106 >>They've got a win/win here.

>>They either destroy the masculine right wing institution of football...

>>...or they take it over and add it to their collection: journalism, education, entertainment, etc.

Maybe. Or maybe there is another outcome here.

Like the owners realizing that they are killing the golden goose and start following their greed. There is going to be a lot of blowback here, it's already started.

They are going to have to choose between the SJWs, who also may start to have a change of heart when they see their endorsements dry up, and their paying customers who make it all possible.

My money is on greed long term.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (/tuJf)

107 Two tours of Afghanistan couldn't bring him down. But shamed by SJW was just too much for him. SAD!

Posted by: MrX at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (QpMYC)

108 He threw his fellow service men under the bus. He threw his bronze star under the bus. May the faces of the men who died for that flag during your tours haunt you the rest of your cowardly days.

Posted by: Gem at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (5aq94)

109 I need to re-watch that movie Gladiators.
I think the hero dies in the end.

I guess that is what the Japanese mean when they say that the nail that sticks up, gets hammered down.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (m9X4Y)

110
Off. Sock.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (vIjh1)

111 Popovich. Take your race privilege and shove it.

I, and many colleagues of every race do know what it means to be born American.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (M+MSn)

112 1 Good on Alejandro, though he may now be treated as a leper by his crappy teammates.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 24, 2017 01:59 PM (5sQ8t)

I probably should have appended "manager" and "league" to that at the very least.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (5sQ8t)

113 "We still have no clue of what being born white means."

We also still have no clue of what is good syntax is, yo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (Mouru)

114 Killing football is not a complete 'win' for them.

It shows that we aren't going to be led down the Road to Hell if they co-opt our institutions. We will burn them down ourselves, we will cost them and their collaborators billions, steal their strength and power and reduce them to rubble. And then advance further upon them, and head for the media, the schools, the bureaucracy, and the courts.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (oVJmc)

115
I feel like Bridget Jones in that scene with Hugh Grant.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 25, 2017 06:59 PM (/XLap)

116 BTW, the Golden State Social Justice Warriors coach has now weighed in -- and he says you need to #CheckYourWhitePrivilege.

Fuck the Steelers. Fuck the NFL. And fuck whoever this knob slobberer is.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 06:59 PM (na0uG)

117 >>>7 You knew this was coming from the start.
Reminds me on the POW's confessing their war crimes on TV.
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 06:44 PM (it+WZ)

This would make a good gif, alternating with his apology.

Posted by: m at September 25, 2017 06:59 PM (9egmK)

118 They will never shake the Pittsburgh Kneelers monicker.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 06:59 PM (LTHVh)

119 >>'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

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Click on this link! It's "Moonbattery," so you know it's good!

http://moonbattery.com/?p=88193

Enjoy the photo! Don't forget to "Save image as..."!

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 06:59 PM (hI/9G)

120 "I made my teammates look bad"

No. They did that all by themselves.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 06:59 PM (SRKgf)

121 I'm looking forward to new developments.

Cowboys going to protest tonight. That will not go over well in Texas.

NFL's week two ratings fell an incredible 24% over last year's week two and 15% over 2015 ratings.

Week two was lowest ratings since 1998! Hollywooders are out begging people to watch football. NOt that they care about football, but because You Know Who is living in their heads and making them craaaaazzzy.

Posted by: Old Glory at September 25, 2017 06:59 PM (3myMJ)

122 It will be interesting to see what the ratings are for MNF. It's not my team playing so I wouldn't have watched anyway, nor will I now or ever. I had already gone from huge NFL fan to meh, to fuck it, not wasting half a Sunday. Now it's not wasting any time or money on these bastards. I am tired of being offended and then told I am the intolerant one. Pineapple sideways. NFL = No Fans Left (copyright Michele Malkin)

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (INJFV)

123 OS 11 and internal server errors!!!

Posted by: Strobe at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (6D2Li)

124 What would Rocky Bleier do? We know what Jack Lambert would do.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (it+WZ)

125 @50: "the Left must be driven out of this country and all it's institutions."

So which means do you prefer: (1) killing [as in two in the back of the head, nothing metaphorical]; or (2) deportation, because those are the only two options to accomplish what you propose.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (rznWS)

126 I'll repost this ... a post from a veteran Facebook friend of mine (I keep that count under 50) ... I had a high draft number, and was nearer the end of the war.

"Copied this from a Brother's post and it is my feelings also:

O Say Can You See, By the Dawn's Early Light! Being a Vietnam Vet, with
all the freedom of speech that we have today, to you people that kneel
for our national anthem or hide in the locker room and won't come out,
what do you see in your mind when they play or sing our national anthem?
Let me tell you what I see...I see body bags, I see wounded men on
helicopters, I see HELL! The national anthem is not about Trump,
Obama, Goodell, Clinton, or any of these people. It's not about race, I
fought beside MEN not Blacks or Mexicans or Indians. I fought beside
Americans! They ALL BLED RED! Freedom has a taste the protected will
never know. So when you hide in the locker room or don't stand consider
yourself kicking all the Veterans right in the nuts. Standing for our
anthem isn't supporting any kind of racism, or brutalities, it's
honoring the sons, brothers, uncles, and fathers that died so you could
play your dumbass game on Sunday a FREE MAN!"

Posted by: illiniwek at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (yKAUL)

127 subhuman taxpayer: "Reminds me on the POW's confessing their war crimes on TV."

Exactly.

1984 is officially here.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (H8S+R)

128 and seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people by trying to foment a race war here?

There's only so long people of any race / group are going to sit back and be okay with being the designated enemy.

...This won't end well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (wmaTe)

129 These spoiled, lazy NFL players. When I was at Mizzou I knelt on both knees until the job was finished.

Posted by: Michael Sam at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (4qT4l)

130 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

What, like inherent guilt?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (oVJmc)

131 You knew this was coming from the start.
Reminds me on the POW's confessing their war crimes on TV.
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer

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And when he was in the military, he probably would have stood up against torture longer than he managed to stand up to left wing shaming.

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (hI/9G)

132 It means I'm not a fucking loser.

Just spitballing here.
Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (sdi6R)

--------

*snort*

Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (vIjh1)

133 Who ordered the code red, Goodell or Tomlin?

Posted by: Steve Earle Song Ideas at September 25, 2017 07:01 PM (PvCxa)

134 "I made my teammates look bad, and that is my fault, and my fault only,"
Villanueva said. "We as a team tried to figure it out, but obviously
butchered it."

False start

Posted by: goodluckduck at September 25, 2017 07:01 PM (yqvys)

135
Two tours of Afghanistan couldn't bring him down. But shamed by SJW was just too much for him. SAD!
==

Now, now.

"Bronze Stars and Vs"

Surely he did the right thing. Right?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:01 PM (2wRtc)

136 "I made my teammates look bad"

No. They did that all by themselves.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 06:59 PM
.....Ding ding ding ding. And now he simply caved. Too bad too.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 07:01 PM (INJFV)

137 >>"We still have no clue of what being born white means."

People can just take one one look at you and they know you are racist.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 25, 2017 07:01 PM (IWbvi)

138 I thought Libtards were all about the RIGHT to DISSENT?

So the one guy who stands for the anthem is not allowed to dissent? Where's his right to dissent against the team that voted to stay in the locker room for the anthem!?

Fuck them very very very much. Hypocrites of teh worst kind.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 07:01 PM (dCikz)

139 Is the obnoxious escalation starting to make you question you devotion to the SJW NFL?

Nope. It's still nonexistent.

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2017 07:01 PM (LAe3v)

140 "Unfortunately I threw my teammates under the bus, unintentionally," Villanueva said.

Alejandro, some people deserve to be thrown under the bus.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 07:02 PM (/qEW2)

141 Futball has reached toxic masculinity.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 07:02 PM (hcB66)

142 Did he make a hostage video?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 07:02 PM (IqV8l)

143 @73: "Seems like they always come out with something, mostly surrendered by
the conservatives, while we're left holding the flaming bag of dog poop!"

The Left is serious, organized, and committed. The Right....ain't.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:02 PM (rznWS)

144 Yeah, they worked on him just like Winston Smith.

From last thread, just too good not to move up here:
"305 "Villanueva now apologizing."

O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin- scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was nished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
Posted by: Oregon Is Dumber Than Dirt at September 25, 2017 06:37 PM (Mrl1e)"

Boot, face, forever.

Whatever the surface appearances may be, that's really what our enemies are fighting for.
And apparently still winning.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 25, 2017 07:02 PM (Z8R9P)

145 4 Heard this a.m., his was the most popular NFL jersey. Think the past tense will remain the proper usage.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 25, 2017 06:43 PM (hKi6n)

Just think: a lot of people who ordered them online in the past 24 hours haven't even received them yet.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 07:02 PM (sdi6R)

146
The more Republicans we elect, the faster the radical alt-left agenda advances.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 25, 2017 07:02 PM (/XLap)

147 Will PDT tweet about this?

Today or tomorrow or never?

Weigh in corgis.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:02 PM (7TeYi)

148 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

The full powers of the amulet remain a mystery. Our best magicians have not yet plumbed its secrets.

Posted by: goodluckduck at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (yqvys)

149 Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

It means I'm not a fucking loser.

Means no one is handing me shit simply Because of the color of my skin.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (na0uG)

150 Bbbbut it's my team, I love my team, I watched my team with my father and his father's father.

How can I give that up?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (vyHiq)

151 I'm willing to believe Villanueva is telling the truth, but it's a sad statement for the Steelers that he felt the need to stand up and try to make the rest of them seem less pathetic than they actually are.

Posted by: OCBill at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (df+Zi)

152 "Bronze Stars and Vs"

Surely he did the right thing. Right?

I'll bet your tours were exciting, Mort.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (LTHVh)

153 At this point i just want to be left alone. Go fuck off and die NfL and millionaire athletes. Choke on your own vomit hollywood celebrities. We get it. You do not like us.

One day soon im thinking us "normals" will get sick to death of being henpecked by these assholes and their beliefs and will hit these fuckers in the nose until they leave us the hell alone.

Posted by: Eli Cash at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (0tTib)

154 I thought Libtards were all about the RIGHT to DISSENT?

So the one guy who stands for the anthem is not allowed to dissent? Where's his right to dissent against the team that voted to stay in the locker room for the anthem!?

Fuck them very very very much. Hypocrites of teh worst kind.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

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It's OK to stand up against Trump, but not millionaire athletes.

"Punching up" as opposed to "punching down," or some other stupid thing.

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (hI/9G)

155 He shouldn't have apologized, its his team mates that have no courage.

You'll notice now Roethlisberger is feeling the heat and came out and say he regretted how he hid during the Anthem.

Posted by: Maritime at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (lKmt3)

156 I thought Libtards were all about the RIGHT to DISSENT?

Well, on one hand over here you got your dissent. Then over here on the other hand you got your dissent. A wise man knows the difference.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (Mouru)

157 I can tell you that being born white means a sub-40" vertical leap.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (yL25O)

158 84
This guy was an actual hero. He EARNED that bronze star with Valor. Fuck
your comparison to those McCain and Kerry assholes, mortimer.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
===

Whatever, dude.

You want to worship your "hero" ?

Go right ahead. Pay no attention to what he actually said and actually did.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (2wRtc)

159 Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

Sure we do. It means that we are statistically more likely to be better off than if we are born black. It's like being tall, or being smart, or good looking. It is something no one controls, and not something anyone should complain about. You are who you are, make the best of it. You have a lot of athletes who complain? Fuck'em! It's simple. Don't watch this moronic shit. Full stop. Let football players, and all other whiners, die poor. Fuck 'em!

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (CPk08)

160 Give me college football.

Fuck off NFL.

And an especially hearty fuck you to Mike Tomlin.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:04 PM (79p/O)

161 Just think: a lot of people who ordered them online in the past 24 hours haven't even received them yet.
Posted by: rickl

Cancel cancel cancel cancel cancel cancel cancel

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:04 PM (na0uG)

162 This is really ugly, forcing a decorated vet to apologize for saluting the national anthem.

The NFL isn't worth saving. Burn it down.

Angry now.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 07:05 PM (XlbwU)

163 148 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

The full powers of the amulet remain a mystery. Our best magicians have not yet plumbed its secrets.
Posted by: goodluckduck at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (yqvys)

...

Well, the joos know, but they're keeping the technology from us.

It's always "fight this one more war and then we'll tell you", but no.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 25, 2017 07:05 PM (yL25O)

164 We wants Presdent Obama back because he loved this country unlike Trump who hates persons of coller. Trump lied and the County Died !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro at September 25, 2017 07:05 PM (WmgTn)

165 I'll bet your tours were exciting, Mort.

Posted by: Grump928(C)
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* eyeroll *

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:05 PM (2wRtc)

166 I thought Libtards were all about the RIGHT to DISSENT?

From other people, sure. Not dissent from THEM.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 07:05 PM (oVJmc)

167 Sadly, we have no clue of what being born white means.

Posted by: David Duke at September 25, 2017 07:05 PM (3nBGR)

168 my guess is the rooneys' (lefty retards) wrote this, and pressured the guy into this shit. the rooney family is evil.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 25, 2017 07:06 PM (KP5rU)

169 This is all part of a bigger effort to get rid of the anthem. I've heard SJW's and reporters (but I repeat myself) talk about this way before yesterday. It's jingoistic! It's nationalistic, blah blah blah. Go fuck yourselves. But I guarantee that's the goal.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 07:06 PM (INJFV)

170 I can tell you that being born white means a sub-40" vertical leap.

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No rhythm?

Below average dick size?

Lack of hip and cool?

Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:06 PM (vIjh1)

171 Was he blinking in code?

Appropriate:

http://tinyurl.com/y84gbm7b

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at September 25, 2017 07:06 PM (+dPBV)

172 To paraphrase another poster...

Boycott
Boycott
Boycott

Trump
Trump
Trump

Posted by: Don Q. at September 25, 2017 07:06 PM (NgKpN)

173 He just threw his brothers in arms under the bus. We definitely need a divorce. If I can't even depend on our military heroes to stand up for the Country I'm afraid we have to start over. This upsets me more than the kneelers.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:06 PM (LuKE7)

174 * eyeroll *

So they were uneventful? I guess that's good.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 07:07 PM (LTHVh)

175 155 He shouldn't have apologized, its his team mates that have no courage.

You'll notice now Roethlisberger is feeling the heat and came out and say he regretted how he hid during the Anthem.

Posted by: Maritime at September 25, 2017 07:03 PM (lKmt3)

...

Roethlisberger had better wrap himself in the flag while weeping and saluting next week. And even then I won't really care. It's over.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 25, 2017 07:07 PM (yL25O)

176 Being white means if I'm somewhere & a black or mexican comes in and shoots me, it won't be reported b/c of my privilege.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:07 PM (7TeYi)

177 CK will go down in history as the man who destroyed the NFL.
Bob Costas will just go down.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 25, 2017 07:07 PM (nBr1j)

178
Born white poor is the same as being born black poor. How fucking hard do you want to work?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 07:07 PM (hcB66)

179 Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

This jibberish really comes down to an admission that black society is a dysfunctional mess that can't cope with the opportunities the rest of society lays before them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 07:07 PM (oVJmc)

180 Yeah, right, Greg "Casper" Popovich has been right there on the front lines, seeing firsthand the way the NBA treats its zillionaire black players as second-hand citizens, humiliating them in ways that are just too numerous to count. I can see why he felt the need to make his voice heard on the issue of the societal oppression of blacks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:07 PM (Mouru)

181 posted by: illiniwek at September 25, 2017 07:00 PM (yKAUL)

*****

Excellent! Thanx for sharing.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 25, 2017 07:07 PM (M+MSn)

182 The anti-whitey stuff is really going to fill those stadiums up.

I bet cable companies like ComCast start seeing jaw-dropping numbers of people cutting the cord after this week.

Posted by: Maritime at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (lKmt3)

183 137 >>"We still have no clue of what being born white means."

It means jack shit is what it means.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (NWiLs)

184 Sat and listened to a FORMER GREEN BERET and FORMER NFL FOOTBALL PLAYER on Fox today.

Yeah , he defended the kneeling. Said it wasn't disrespectful.

But hey "Special Ops" !!

Holy shit!! He could do a buncha pushups and run a long way!!

Like my SOF-D buddy used to tell me, " proof that people slip through the cracks."

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (2wRtc)

185
Wait.

So we don't know what it's like to be born black.

And now we don't know what it's like to be born WHITE?

I am soooo confused.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (vIjh1)

186 Its almost 2018

Time for ROLLERBALL

HOUSTON HOUSTON HOUSTON

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (z2W2E)

187 I'll buy the jersey and burn it.

So now there's the question about sports bars and whether to give a place your business that's going wall to wall with ESPN-NFL.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (0lynm)

188 It would be funny to see what happened if Tomlin did try to dissuade Villanueva. Tomlin is 6'. Villanueva is 6'9".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (/qEW2)

189 *shakes head in disgust*

Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (W+vEI)

190 burn it all down

Posted by: Bored383 at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (70HTk)

191 Was he blinking in code?

----

THIS is why I visit this site!

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (hI/9G)

192 He just threw his brothers in arms under the bus.
===

Exactly.

Everybody who went before is rolling their grave.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (2wRtc)

193 What is Popovich even trying to say?

All of this has turned to Socialist gibberish....
You could lose tour mind trying to understand this nonsense...
no joking, I thought for a long time 1984 was a fictional work...

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (zSVEm)

194 I'll tell you what being born white means. it means my talented brilliant wife Heidi loses every promotion opportunity to a 'person of color' with half her experience and knowledge and personality. And shes hot too.

Yeah, what an advantage.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (dCikz)

195 Born white poor is the same as being born black poor. How fucking hard do you want to work?

Do not want to work. Gimme shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (na0uG)

196 This trainwreck keeps getting better and better.

I don't give a shit about what these individuals think or say, -except for when you're on the clock you should act like a professional. The owners obviously don't give a shit, they're in it for the Benjamins, - but you'd think the finer organizations would have policies in place to handle questionable/unprofessional behavior. It's the League, Goodell, unions, the networks, and the advertisers who are the fucking clowns in this shit-show. Screw'em.

Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (imd6s)

197 Watching these overpaid pricks get their just desserts warms my heart.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (79p/O)

198 160 Give me college football.

Fuck off NFL.

And an especially hearty fuck you to Mike Tomlin.
Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:04 PM (79p/O)

____

Why do you need ANY of it? College is just the minor league for BLMFL. You think the thugs playing for Alabama won't tell you to fuck off in a year or two once they're playing for the Cowboys or Steelers?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (vyHiq)

199 How did San Antonio Texas, Military City, USA, end up with an outspoken progressive douchebag for a basketball coach.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (BoMuO)

200 >>>96 Time to slow the Villanueva love a bit, I guess.

Typical ranger step-on-your-dick behavior.

...

Oh I don't think so. I didn't mean it that way.

I was trying to say an honorable man has been pressured by an organization which pays him -- and could cut him -- into apologizing for having honor.

They can do this. Not all Soviets believed in communism. But they were made to publicly proclaim that they did.

Posted by: ace at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (8rNrN)

201 Only thing I have to say to Greg Popovich is he should have used Proactiv.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (LuKE7)

202 All Gooddell had to do was fine the little shit that sat his ass down the first time.

They fine people for the wrong shoes, gloves, socks, even f-in headphones. Fine him for disrespecting the flag thirteen months ago, with the usual threat to double it next time. It would have ended in September 2016.

Congratulations Roger,

You are destroying a 100 Billion Dollar business. You may go down in history as the LAST NFL Commissioner.

Posted by: rd at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (4dz1m)

203 So now there's the question about sports bars and whether to give a place your business that's going wall to wall with ESPN-NFL.
Posted by: Les Kinetic

----

Pro tip for today: They sell beer at the grocery store.

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (hI/9G)

204 185
Wait.

So we don't know what it's like to be born black.

And now we don't know what it's like to be born WHITE?

I am soooo confused.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (vIjh1)

Silly person. You must wait to be told what things mean. By experts and stuff. Because transexuals and genes and stuff. You racist asswipe.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (CPk08)

205 Was this just a written press release by AV? Or was it on camera? Just wondering if he was Morse code blinking out "torture".

Posted by: cfo mom at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (RfzVr)

206 Bag of dicks for everyone. Free refills for SJW numbnuts who inject politics into everything.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (tbOMB)

207 as a soldier, he's probably aware of the dangers that can fall upon a soldier who is despised by his teammates.

Posted by: ace at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (8rNrN)

208 to avoid the DTs, I'll cut back to only watching some/most Patriots' games

baby steps...

Posted by: Ronny in Rotterdam at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (Co9e8)

209 Was Alejandro blinking "torture" in Morse Code?

Posted by: Minuteman at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (3nBGR)

210 So now there's the question about sports bars and whether to give a place your business that's going wall to wall with ESPN-NFL.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 25, 2017 07:08 PM (0lynm)

Nope. Why give them your money so that they can pay tens of thousands of dollars a month to people who hate you?

But Irish Pubs playing Euro soccer or whatever it is they play are still okay, since almost all of that is bootlegged over the internet anyways, so we've got that going for us.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (wmaTe)

211 I was trying to say an honorable man has been pressured by an
organization which pays him -- and could cut him -- into apologizing for
having honor.
==

Seeing a little daylight in your logic here.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (2wRtc)

212 What POP meant to say is what being born a white NBA coach means.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (it+WZ)

213 At least I have the NHL.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (79p/O)

214

This breaks my heart

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (1LbB2)

215 In all honesty who the hell is behind this? Do they not see this is destroying their livlihood? It is just madness. Absolute madness.

Posted by: Eli Cash at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (0tTib)

216 17 I feel bad for him. Army training makes you part of a team- he believes he inadvertently let his team down by making it look like he was taking a stand that he wasn't taking. I'm sure there were LOTS of guys on his team who wanted to be on the field standing for the anthem, but as a team they decided to do something else to respect the wishes of the teammates who wanted to take a knee.

Anyway, I disagree with the weird0 knee-takers, but I'll stand with the veteran and obviously have no reason to doubt his patriotism.
Posted by: LASue at September 25, 2017 06:47 PM (Mjus2)

He didn't let his team down. They let HIM down. And us.

To hell with the lot of them. And to Pop-off-vich of the Spurms, YOU and all like you have no clue what it means to be AMERICAN.

Total boycott of Everything Sports, Propaganda and Newz.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (mbhDw)

217 Congratulations Roger,

You are destroying a 100 Billion Dollar business. You may go down in history as the LAST NFL Commissioner.

Fortunately for him, he still has a bright future as Chancellor of Germany.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (Mouru)

218 209
Was Alejandro blinking "torture" in Morse Code?

I saw it too.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (it+WZ)

219 The funniest thing about this whole situation is that nobody knows what the protest is about.

Posted by: goodluckduck at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (yqvys)

220 199 How did San Antonio Texas, Military City, USA, end up with an outspoken progressive douchebag for a basketball coach.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (BoMuO)

____

30 years of unrestricted illegal immigration? Just a guess.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (vyHiq)

221 212 What POP meant to say is what being born a white NBA coach means.
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (it+WZ)

Oh, that. Well, that's easy,: we know exactly what it means. It means that you are a twat.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (CPk08)

222 Mortimer

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (XntMs)

223 213
At least I have the NHL.

And NASCAR..

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (it+WZ)

224
Which Goodell is more of a midget; Roger or Eddie?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (mbhDw)

225 Holy Shite- I can go to civil war brought on by a bunch of pussy football players. Let 'er buck.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (hcB66)

226 rotten, he was the only guy I had any respect for.
o well the war didn't break him, but pc did.
nice going fk heads.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (FKrah)

227 The funniest thing about this whole situation is that nobody knows what the protest is about.
Posted by: goodluckduck

----

All part of the plan... All part of the plan...

Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (hI/9G)

228 222
Mortimer

Posted by: gNewt
===

Yes , dear?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (2wRtc)

229 @128: "There's only so long people of any race / group are going to sit back and be okay with being the designated enemy."

Yeah, eventually all of the designated enemy get snuffed. Just watch us!

Posted by: The Incredible Disappearing White Zimbabwean Farmer at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (rznWS)

230 Want it to stop?
Cut the cord - cancel your ESPN, and if necessary the whole friggin cable/dish service.
Stop subsidizing their proselytizing

Posted by: Batterup at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (mtGE/)

231 219 The funniest thing about this whole situation is that nobody knows what the protest is about.
Posted by: goodluckduck at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (yqvys)

It's about how horrible white people are, if we get right down to it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (wmaTe)

232 At least I have the NHL.

And NASCAR..
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (it+WZ)

and this lamp...

and this paddleball game...

that's all I need...

and this ashtray...

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (sGSvK)

233 from the war perspective. ... hey you brave pampered dicks, you know what happens when you LOSE a war? You get rounded up by your enemy and sold into slavery, just as what happened when blacks in Africa went to war against their "brothers" and captured them, and sold them into the slave trade.

The grandkids of the losers of those wars are free today because white people went to war on principle (even though the civil war should have been resolved peacefully), and killed a lot of white people ... which resulted in slaves (that were slaves because their black "family" captured them) being freed.

anyway ... it is clear ... commies want to win by getting these idiots to hate America using their politics of division. Shut It Down ... let the ignorant haters compete in the real market place.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (yKAUL)

234 Oh I don't think so. I didn't mean it that way.

I was trying to say an honorable man has been pressured by an organization which pays him -- and could cut him -- into apologizing for having honor.

They can do this. Not all Soviets believed in communism. But they were made to publicly proclaim that they did.

Posted by: ace

_______

I can see where he's coming from. I'm sure not everyone on the Steelers wanted to "boycott" the national anthem, but him coming out there alone could have made it seem that way and it might be perceived like he threw his team under the bus.

Still, you'll notice none of the BLM people feel the need to apologize for making their whole team look bad.

Posted by: Maritime at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (lKmt3)

235 Think this signals that they know the stakes are high. The guy's shirts sold out, right? They can't let Trump's side have a hero. Reminds of during the Paula Deen controvery her in-the-works book recieved a crazy amount of pre-orders as it was a great way to show support. So the publisher cancelled the book.

These businesses are not totally ruled by the bottom line. They *will* nuke their own sales to score a culture win.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (W+vEI)

236 it means my talented brilliant wife Heidi loses every promotion
opportunity to a 'person of color' with half her experience and
knowledge and personality. And shes hot too.

Look, there are very specific rules about pics around here.

Posted by: The Iron Law of AoSHQ at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (ontrc)

237 "169 This is all part of a bigger effort to get rid of the anthem. I've heard SJW's and reporters (but I repeat myself) talk about this way before yesterday. It's jingoistic! It's nationalistic, blah blah blah. Go fuck yourselves. But I guarantee that's the goal.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 07:06 PM (INJFV)"

^^^This ! ^^^

To avoid "controversy", they'll just quit playing it before games. In a few years, the few high school teams still playing it will be sued. In a generation no one will even know that it existed.

Sound like anything else lately ?

I said it earlier today, here it is again:
I don't think anything political that tends toward the destruction of American culture is accidental.

*adjusts tinfoil hat to a jaunty angle, strides off to consult the Strategic Cheap Beer Reserve*

*and feed the dogs*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (Z8R9P)

238 215 In all honesty who the hell is behind this? Do they not see this is destroying their livlihood? It is just madness. Absolute madness.
Posted by: Eli Cash at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (0tTib)

___

1. The average IQ of these players is probably just shy of 80.

2. It won't really affect them. They all have long term contracts. And besides it's not like a 20% drop in attendance/viewership will mean a 20% drop in their salary. Evil Whitey McWhite Owner is the one who will lose out.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (vyHiq)

239 "We still have no clue of what being born white means."

More proof that you don't have to be a genius to coach in the NBA.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (O5Q3r)

240 Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

It means having created the modern world and establishing the greatest, freest, most tolerant, productive and successful nation that has ever existed - the nation that you and the rest of the thug scumbags hate.

You are all embarrassments to humanity.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (8gDQu)

241 To all of my family, friends and myself, the NFL is already history. The NBA is not far behind, and baseball is on probation. FUCK all those pussy boy whiners.

Posted by: TrubbleMaker at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (u0xKs)

242 Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

It means inner city thugs will be conditioned to hate you and rationalize any violence against you. It means white liberal politicians will try to hobble or replace you, because you will evaluate their actions, hence your vote is not a sure thing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (/qEW2)

243 I quit watching at the beginning of last season. I didn't watch one second except for accidental viewing at restaurants when highlights were being shown on their TV's. I'm 57 and been a lifetime fan. Looked forward to every single season. Now I don't even miss it and feel absolutely positive I made the right choice. Oh and I can't say I've filled all those countless hours with new and valuable activities but at least I don't give one moment of my life to people who view me and my life with contempt.

Posted by: Does this leg smell gammy? at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (/6U7G)

244 It's like invasion of the body snatchers.

Posted by: BillC at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (HqPBH)

245 "Unfortunately I threw my teammates under the bus, unintentionally," Villanueva said. "Every single time I see that picture of me standing by myself I feel embarrassed," Villanueva said in a press conference Monday.

That's just fvcking pathetic.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (8gDQu)

246 >>No rhythm?

>>Below average dick size?

>>Lack of hip and cool?

Sun block gets frigging expensive.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (/tuJf)

247 And all this time, I thought Invasion of the Body Snatchers was a work of fiction.

Posted by: CyberCipher at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (p6WoB)

248 Posted by: ace at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (8rNrN)

This ain't the Soviet Union. Villanueva screwed up backing down and it's worse if he actually believes he did the wrong thing. I know it's hard to criticize a guy who has put his life on the line serving his country but it's not a get out of jail free card.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (LuKE7)

249 218 209
Was Alejandro blinking "torture" in Morse Code?

I saw it too.
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:11 PM (it+WZ)

I wanted to mention it this morning but I guess I wanted to believe Villanueva was a 100% hero in this But if you look at his response to Kaepernick, although he does knock him for taking a knee to the Anthem, he also said he sympathized with his reasons. That right there is a big tell, 2 tours in the Afghan or not.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (mbhDw)

250 Obama fucked up the whole thing.

The. Whole. Thing.

His hand selected generals and admirals had SHIT TONS of medals.

Whatever.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (2wRtc)

251 so we see how comrades are made.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (FKrah)

252 Pro tip for today: They sell beer at the grocery store.
Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (hI/9G)

----

Anheiser-Busch is an NFL sponsor.

Just sayin

Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (vIjh1)

253 Just went I thought I couldn't get more incandescently pissed off.

Posted by: Luke at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (4fUM9)

254 Dez Bryant is left-handed, btw.

Roger Goddell, meanwhile, commits unnatural acts with goats and his sister.

Posted by: Ronny in Rotterdam at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (Co9e8)

255 I used to be in the kulturkampf faction, back in the early '90's. I thought there was a chance to turn things around.
Then, I entered Camp Let it Burn, seeing that these rear-guard actions are necessarily doomed.
Now, I'm tending toward Burn it All.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (NtiaQ)

256 200
I was trying to say an honorable man has been pressured by an organization which pays him -- and could cut him -- into apologizing for having honor.

They can do this. Not all Soviets believed in communism. But they were made to publicly proclaim that they did.

Posted by: ace at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM (8rNrN)

That's a great point. Also the other commenter who said that Communism requires everybody to lie all the time.

During Stalin's show trials, some of the accused "confessed" to their trumped-up "crimes" in hopes of leniency, or at least leniency for their surviving family members. Didn't always work out.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (sdi6R)

257 as a soldier, he's probably aware of the dangers that can fall upon a soldier who is despised by his teammates.

Posted by: ace at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (8rNrN)

Well nothing good every happens to a quarterback or running back that ticks off an lineman. Miss a couple of blocks and suddenly the third string QB is in the game and he's calling audibles for runs.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (+dPBV)

258 Yes , dear?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (2wRtc)

It's time to stop playing and come home for supper.

Posted by: Dear at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (XntMs)

259 @155: "You'll notice now Roethlisberger is feeling the heat and came out and say he regretted how he hid during the Anthem."

He may just have wanted to clarify that he wasn't sexually assaulting anyone in the bathroom while out of sight.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (rznWS)

260 well, whatever I guess the country still has no courageous heros .
they all stumble under the left boot

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (FKrah)

261 The amount of levers being pulled in the background had to be enormous. Powerful. JMO.

People need to double down, sane writers need to unpack this for peeps.

I believe we are at a tipping point. It's dependent upon the populace which way we will tip.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (7TeYi)

262 2. It won't really affect them. They all have long term contracts. And besides it's not like a 20% drop in attendance/viewership will mean a 20% drop in their salary. Evil Whitey McWhite Owner is the one who will lose out.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (vyHiq)

Make evil mcwhitey's franchise go tits up and those long term contracts mean SFA. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (CPk08)

263 Actually, him apologizing for honoring the flag makes it easier. I was all full of moral conundrums as related to folks like him yesterday. Now I'm not. Thank you NFL for showing us your true face!!!

Posted by: The Lonebadger at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (950ya)

264 all those people that Invested in his meroabilia last night got screwed I guess.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (FKrah)

265 re241: yep, it's down to baseball, and curling... and I'm watching you carefully, curlers...

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (zSVEm)

266 Villanueva screwed up backing down and it's worse if he actually believes he did the wrong thing. I know it's hard to criticize a guy who has put his life on the line serving his country but it's not a get out of jail free card.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (LuKE7)

Hear, hear!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (8gDQu)

267 Anyone who watches even 1 minute of BLMFL or NBA is supporting this shit. I don't care if you *ONLY* watch your team, you're still supporting it. It's like saying I don't support communists, well except my friend he's a communist and I help him out, but only him.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (vyHiq)

268 I am reminded of that scene in Pulp Fiction where Jules and Vincent have Marvin in the back seat of the car. Vincent asks Marvin his opinion about something to which Marvin responds "Man, I don't even have an opinion." and Vincent replies "You have to have an opinion!" before blowing Marvins head off. Corporations are asked to have an opinion about some SJW topic of importance. If they try to say "I don't have an opinion." they get their heads blown off by boycotts and protests.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (BoMuO)

269 Something that would be good is for the fans not to go. But if they have to, just sit there quietly. What would be more unnerving than a stadium full of people but dead silence?

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (+dPBV)

270 Public Recantation always was a Party favorite.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (Ndje9)

271 From now on, all I'll have to say about this SJW/NFL crap is:

F*ck this sh!t.

There you have it.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:17 PM (T71PA)

272 @156: "Well, on one hand over here you got your dissent. Then over here on the
other hand you got your dissent. A wise man knows the difference."

There's "the truth"
*shakes head "no" slowly and somberly*
And "THE TRUTH"
*nods "yes" and smiles brightly*

Posted by: Zombie Lionel Hutz at September 25, 2017 07:17 PM (rznWS)

273 NFL= National fucking laughingstock

Bags of dicks for every damn one of them.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 25, 2017 07:17 PM (0OmEj)

274 Posted by: Maritime at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (lKmt3)

No one thought he was throwing his team under the bus IMO. I believe everyone thought that based on his service , the team exempted him from their actions.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:17 PM (LuKE7)

275 well that action was the nail in nfls coffin as far as i'm concerned, I will never again let it play in my house.
ever

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:17 PM (FKrah)

276 Has Rocky Bleier commented on his the Steelers stance on kneeling.

Posted by: Cosda at September 25, 2017 07:17 PM (eX+TO)

277 Public Recantation always was a Party favorite.

Say, who's up for a good old-fashioned public Struggle Session?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:17 PM (Mouru)

278 So wait, the QB apologizes for standing in the tunnel, and the linebacker apologizes for standing outside of the tunnel. WTF? O.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (BoMuO)

279 265 re241: yep, it's down to baseball, and curling... and I'm watching you carefully, curlers...
Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (zSVEm)

Its time for.... Dodgeball!

Right here on ESPN 8, the Ocho...

Oh... wait... damn... that's Racist now.... sorry Cotton...

Wait... shit... is calling a white guy cotton Racist?

Posted by: Don Q. at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (NgKpN)

280 I'm also enjoying the failing and flailing Chargers in Los Angeles.

The Spanos family are greedy, lying pricks.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (79p/O)

281 Helmsperson: "Peak Stupid dead ahead, Sir"
Cap'n: "Steady as xhe goes, Lt."

Posted by: ro-man at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (RuIsu)

282 America has come to this; a war veteran is coerced into apologizing for saluting the flag.

Auf Wiedersehen, NFL.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (Ndje9)

283 All I can think about is OBj crawling on all fours in the end zone and lifting his leg to pee. A young black millionaire makes a statement on national TV.
And I'm supposed to take this seriously?

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (it+WZ)

284 Anheiser-Busch is an NFL sponsor.

Just sayin
Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (vIjh1)

So lets play a game of "what would the left do?"

If you answered "pay for a fake twitter army and online trolls from India and Russia to bombard the sponsors with all kinds of threats to never buy their product again," you win.

...So why aren't "we" doing that?

InBev knows who the Budweiser crowd is.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (wmaTe)

285 267 Anyone who watches even 1 minute of BLMFL or NBA is supporting this shit. I don't care if you *ONLY* watch your team, you're still supporting it. It's like saying I don't support communists, well except my friend he's a communist and I help him out, but only him.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (vyHiq)

This is the kind of crap that had so many people here push back against ace last year.

Its not the urging people to boycott and not watch or to do something else instead. Its the "You're an awful person for watching shame on you."

Posted by: buzzion at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (z/Ubi)

286 They all have long term contracts. And besides it's not like a 20% drop in attendance/viewership will mean a 20% drop in their salary. Evil Whitey McWhite Owner is the one who will lose out.
Posted by: #neverskankles

__________

The average career in the NFL is something 2-3 years and I've heard figures as high as 90% go bankrupt after their career is over.

Most all of these dumbasses will end up broke and forgotten regardless of this controversy, but long term, I want to make an example out of the NFL and their owners. Plus the media companies.

Posted by: Maritime at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (lKmt3)

287 NFL Paycheck > Patriotism

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (2wRtc)

288 If you miss football...one word.

CURLING!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (dCikz)

289 NFL= National fucking laughingstock

Bags of dicks for every damn one of them.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 25, 2017 07:17 PM (0OmEj)

With all the steroids they munch down they're probably more in need of bags of testicles.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (8gDQu)

290
Watching these overpaid pricks get their just desserts warms my heart.
Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobi

When did that happen?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (IqV8l)

291

They were gonna take away his living and make him a pariah

Bet he's the recipient of every dirty hit for the rest of the season

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (1LbB2)

292 @177: "Bob Costas will just go down."

Technically, he goes up.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (rznWS)

293 You. Will. Be. Made. To. Care. ... less

Posted by: Dr_No at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (imDUY)

294 this isn't the end of the world, Thanksgiving will now actually be Thanksgiving without the shit blowing in my ears

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (FKrah)

295 Pretty obvious he got strong-armed... he might have a wife/ kids/ family to think of... makes me hate professional sports even more..

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (zSVEm)

296

"Unfortunately I threw my teammates under the bus, unintentionally,"
Villanueva said. "Every single time I see that picture of me standing by
myself I feel embarrassed," Villanueva said in a press conference
Monday.

-----

Heroic.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (2wRtc)

297 yep, it's down to baseball, and curling... and I'm watching you carefully, curlers...
Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (zSVEm)

Caber Tossing: The Patriotic Sports-Lover's Best-Kept Secret.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (Mouru)

298
NHL season starts soon. Mostly foreigners. No reason to kneel. Probably not as big a bunch of douchebags as the NFL or NBA.

Hell, I'll even start watching Premier League and Bundesliga if it steers clear of this nonsense.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (6d7HA)

299
Fuck off

3 tours?

Patriot

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (1LbB2)

300 I see the Goodel has pressured Jerry's Team into making a pregame statement.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (it+WZ)

301 This is the wrath that fucking Obama brought.
35 years people have been going to REL schools in Dallas, Never effected them in the least. Name me one fucker that 10 years ago had any awareness of a statue in a park.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 07:20 PM (hcB66)

302 I'm also enjoying the failing and flailing Chargers in Los Angeles.

The Spanos family are greedy, lying pricks.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (79p/O)

Yeah, I'm from San Diego too... F*ck this sh!t.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:20 PM (T71PA)

303 And 130 million will still watch the Superbowl because commercials and halftime show!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 25, 2017 07:20 PM (BoMuO)

304 252 Pro tip for today: They sell beer at the grocery store.
Posted by: RKae at September 25, 2017 07:10 PM (hI/9G)

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Anheiser-Busch is an NFL sponsor.

Just sayin
Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:14 PM (vIjh1)

He said beer.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 25, 2017 07:20 PM (tbOMB)

305 well go ahead and support them killing the country.
who the fk cares.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:20 PM (FKrah)

306 Is Left shaming a term? It should be.

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (ghofu)

307 They put a metal bucket on his head, beat it with a stick saying, in rhythem - you are a team player, it's for the team - you are a team player, it's for the team."

Posted by: Dear at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (XntMs)

308 "America has come to this; a war veteran is coerced into apologizing for saluting the flag.
Auf Wiedersehen, NFL. "

Well put. Can it get anymore shameful.

Posted by: Wicked Auntie Daenyrys at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (cAXIk)

309 The Superbowl this year ought to be a blast. Is there anything that these delinquents can't ruin?

Posted by: Cheri at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (AiNgf)

310 BTW, the San Antonio Spurs of Social Justice coach has now weighed in -- and he says you need to #CheckYourWhitePrivilege.

Anytime I see this kind of thing, I think Obama & Holder. Racial & identity politics. The elites are not gonna take a stand. It will have to be the population at large. It would be exciting to read about; not so great to live it. But, here we are.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (7TeYi)

311 well go ahead and support them killing the country.
who the fk cares.
Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:20 PM (FKrah)

Willow, now what kind of attitude is that?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (Mouru)

312 America has come to this; a war veteran is coerced into apologizing for saluting the flag.

This deserves repeating.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (na0uG)

313 286 They all have long term contracts. And besides it's not like a 20% drop in attendance/viewership will mean a 20% drop in their salary. Evil Whitey McWhite Owner is the one who will lose out.
Posted by: #neverskankles

__________

The average career in the NFL is something 2-3 years and I've heard figures as high as 90% go bankrupt after their career is over.

Most all of these dumbasses will end up broke and forgotten regardless of this controversy, but long term, I want to make an example out of the NFL and their owners. Plus the media companies.
Posted by: Maritime at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (lKmt3)

And if the owners take a hit??? FINE...

They allowed this shit to happen, and continue... they could have stopped it cold if they wanted.

They are part of the problem...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (NgKpN)

314
Oh I don't think so. I didn't mean it that way.

I was trying to say an honorable man has been pressured by an organization which pays him -- and could cut him -- into apologizing for having honor.

They can do this. Not all Soviets believed in communism. But they were made to publicly proclaim that they did.

Posted by: ace at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM

I'll say it. I've been around enough rangers to know.
Known some very good ones, some of the best guys I ever served with, but a lot were more machismo than actually having the mental fortitude to do the hard things. Physical stuff they are great, the mental stuff not as much. Point is, he had a chance to stand by his actual principals but folded. Even if the steelers cut him, someone would pick him up, he would not be radioactive like CK.

Look, I agree the guy should make his own choices, but he really is going the worst route possible... his teammates are already pissed, now a lot of Veterans and fans will be also. I know I am. Saying that you are embarrassed about paying homage to our flag is not something I look on with any other than disdain.

Posted by: Wahshiya at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (S3dtp)

315 301 This is the wrath that fucking Obama brought.
35 years people have been going to REL schools in Dallas, Never effected them in the least. Name me one fucker that 10 years ago had any awareness of a statue in a park.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 07:20 PM (hcB66)

Not even two years ago, declaring one to be transgendered would have meant declaring oneself to be mentally ill. Today, too many regard it as an oppressed victim and hero.

Thank you, MFM and academia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)

316 it is true the commie left would like to hurt the GDP by tearing up the NFL ... but I say that money was not productive. It is basically the broken window theory ... we are funding them to break up America.

put those funds into your local economy, support your local teams, go to the games, double down on buying beer when the Quincy Gems play (they used to be a Cub farm team, now have a small league).

After I quit running fellowships, I did my "gig for society" by running a small sports league at a bar for ten years ... brought people together, a nice social network ... sheriff's team, Times Picayune team, fishers, cops, all sorts ... all drank together ... go local.

Same goes for the Wall Street mut fund ... find a way to put that money to work locally, instead of in China funding the Nork nukes. At least divert part to your smaller town, not the leftist megalopolis.

just an opinion ...

Posted by: illiniwek at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (yKAUL)

317 At least I have the NHL.

And NASCAR..
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:12 PM (it+WZ)

and this lamp...

and this paddleball game...

that's all I need...

and this ashtray...

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 25, 2017 07:13 PM (sGSvK)

And the clock....I want the clock behind you!

(obscure line from a movie whose name escapes me at the moment)

Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (Enq6K)

318 BTW, the San Antonio Spurs of Social Justice coach has now weighed in -- and he says you need to #CheckYourWhitePrivilege.

He can suck my dick.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (na0uG)

319 well go ahead and support them killing the country.

===

Nono willow!

He is SAVING the country.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (2wRtc)

320 Somebody should have punched that homeless-looking basketball coach in the throat.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (Vevy5)

321 305

willow, there's always curling... and rugby clubs...

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (zSVEm)

322 From Hero to Zero in 60 SJW seconds ...

Posted by: ShainS at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (mi1iB)

323 cicero, just saying. and srs as a heart attack.

it's dead to me.
and all the tearing down of us our children the country .
fk that

FK THAT

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (FKrah)

324 NHL season starts soon. Mostly foreigners. No reason to kneel. Probably not as big a bunch of douchebags as the NFL or NBA.

Hell, I'll even start watching Premier League and Bundesliga if it steers clear of this nonsense.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (6d7HA)

I think I'm going to start watching NASCAR.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (Ri/rl)

325 Upset about the way cops treat black suspects? Then reduce black crime. Less encounters with cops. And less expectation by cops that they are walking into an extreme level of violence.

But that's not going to sell to the grifters of the Left or to the masses who don't want to engage in self-criticism. It's much easier to remain a victim, blame someone else, and feel sanctified as totally innocent.

Meanwhile, 'your' society continues to decline. The innocent get dragged down along with the guilty that you refuse to address.

And you complain all the more about the Injustice of bearing the consequences of the failure you refuse to address.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (oVJmc)

326 I m thinking of my 9 year old nephew, who is absolutey a walking football encycopedia mostly because his Dad is, it's their thing and he is kind of small and nerdy but adores football and talks to his Dad about it online, because his Dad is deployed in the Gulf for Navy reserves for his third tour and he'll be there for another 10 months, leaving my sister with him and two other little ones and a few dogs by herself, and what all of them must have felt yesterday. He misses his father so much. I hope he didn't even realize what a big fat F You that was from his team-the Patriots-to his family. I am sure my Brother in Law got the message and was really hurt and angry. Goddamn these overpaid brats and their virtue signalling, seriously.

Posted by: Goldilocks at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (zz1sH)

327 Mort maybe you wanna rethink this

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (1LbB2)

328 I thought I couldn't hate the NFL anymore after yesterday. And then, they took the one good moment from yesterday and tied it to a stake and turned it to ash.

Good going NFL.

Posted by: Sandy at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (7kHvS)

329 WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO THIS COUNTRY????

Posted by: Max Power at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (QCc6B)

330 America has come to this; a war veteran is coerced into apologizing for saluting the flag.

This deserves repeating.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (na0uG)

Preach it... and F*ck this sh!t.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (T71PA)

331 227
The funniest thing about this whole situation is that nobody knows what the protest is about.

Posted by: goodluckduck

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Posted by: O'Brien at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (8iiMU)

332 This is all part of an effort by the leftoids to get rid of the anthem all together.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (INJFV)

333 285 267 Anyone who watches even 1 minute of BLMFL or NBA is supporting this shit. I don't care if you *ONLY* watch your team, you're still supporting it. It's like saying I don't support communists, well except my friend he's a communist and I help him out, but only him.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:16 PM (vyHiq)

This is the kind of crap that had so many people here push back against ace last year.

Its not the urging people to boycott and not watch or to do something else instead. Its the "You're an awful person for watching shame on you."
Posted by: buzzion at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (z/Ubi)

___

I didn't say you are an awful person. I said if you watch this shit, you are supporting the BLM thuggery. You can't be just a little pregnant on this issue. Either you boycott or you don't. 1/2 boycotting doesn't mean fuck all.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (vyHiq)

334 3-Any sports media who are black (they WILL NOT criticize any other black, I think its #1 rule in the blackman's handbook)

Google "Jason Whitlock Colin Kaepernick" -- Whitlock's attacked him in writing, on Fox, and on his show w/Colin Cowherd.

It was sad to read that statement from Villanueva, but he's got to be in the same room with those guys. I admit that Roetisberger's Better-late-than-never statement is the 1st time I have ever liked him. Esp in the face of my team's QB, Alex Smith, saying yesterday that Trump wouldn't condemn neo-Nazis (*shakes head in sorrow*). Oh Alex! Go back to game management.

Posted by: Shopgirl at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (drU0K)

335 Gregg Popovich: 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

It means we made the modern world. It means that better men then you created the place of freedom and plenty you so comfortably lodge in while you badmouth your own kind. It means not apologizing to a self-selected band of violent morons for your existence, you sad little cuck.

Posted by: Monty James at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (gKOMX)

336 He may just have wanted to clarify that he wasn't sexually assaulting anyone in the bathroom while out of sight.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:15 PM (rznWS)

IT'S NOT RAPE IF IT'S IN A TUNNEL

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (mtGE/)

337 318 BTW, the San Antonio Spurs of Social Justice coach has now weighed in -- and he says you need to #CheckYourWhitePrivilege.

It's checked. Fuck 'Em

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (CPk08)

338 What I hate most are two BS lines we're getting.

1. Trump is being "divisive". WTF do you think Humperdinck-Camperdown-Canarydick (or whatever he's called) is doing? And the rest of the NFL protesters? They're uniting us? Bull sh**.

2. Why is the Right making everything political? This is an even bigger lie. For 50 years, since the New Left rose, they have been pushing the line that everything IS political. (Read Scruton's book, if you doubt me - not that anyone here does doubt that.) I was arguing this shit with them in the effing 60s. Your choice of music was political. Your choice of movies, that too. I liked the Yankees? That was fascist. It went on and on.

(Oh, yes, another line they like is "it's just a piece of cloth. This from the people who've been shrieking for months over a few pieces of metal. F THEM ALL.)

Posted by: George LeS at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (+TcCF)

339 America has come to this; a war veteran is coerced into apologizing for saluting the flag.

==

How the hell do you "coerce" a huge muscular, decorated war-veteran into renouncing the American flag?

The NFL got hit -squads now?

I call bullshit.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (2wRtc)

340 I'm also enjoying the failing and flailing Chargers in Los Angeles.

The Spanos family are greedy, lying pricks.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (79p/O)

Yeah, I'm from San Diego too... F*ck this sh!t.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF?

My husband and I were season tickets holders. Used to love the game, the tailgating, playing against the Raiders. The Spanos family has billions but they wanted the San Diego taxpayer to pick up the tab. I worked for the county, we were broke, the city too. They NEVER bargained in good faith.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (79p/O)

341 306 Is Left shaming a term? It should be.
Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2017 07:21 PM (ghofu)

Funny the Nazis - as in the real Nazis - had the term "rassenschande" (sp) meaning "race shame" when an Aryan slept with a Jew.

Creepy how plus ca change, etc.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (mbhDw)

342 Willow, now what kind of attitude is that?

--------

A pot heads

Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (vIjh1)

343 I was trying to say an honorable man has been pressured by an organization which pays him -- and could cut him -- into apologizing for having honor.

Posted by: ace at September 25, 2017 07:09 PM

I'm not sure why you think he was so pressured. It seems to me more like he was leaning this way and just needed a slight nudge. I doubt any heavy pressure came into it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (8gDQu)

344 NHL season starts soon. Mostly foreigners. No reason to kneel.

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Ice, though. Hard to kneel in skates

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (z2W2E)

345 The only way that organizations like the NFL will learn is if they are forced to learn by fans destroying their profits. They will not listen to us any other way and we have no leverage over them. They have to suffer, even if it means the left wins by destroying a beloved American institution.

Because the others beloved institutions need to learn to tell the left to F off when they are trying to corrupt and infiltrate. How else can we do it? We can't take over the company, they will not listen to letters or emails, social media means nothing to these guys. Hit em in the wallet.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (39g3+)

346 I'll be socking you in all the old stinking sock places
those old familiar sticky places, you may be socking at the moon, and I'll be socking too.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (XntMs)

347 285
This is the kind of crap that had so many people here push back against ace last year.

Its not the urging people to boycott and not watch or to do something else instead. Its the "You're an awful person for watching shame on you."
Posted by: buzzion at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (z/Ubi)

I agree with that. I never was much of a football fan in the first place, so I never watched it much anyway.

But I'm not going to tell anyone else, "You're a bad person for watching."

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (sdi6R)

348 298
NHL season starts soon. Mostly foreigners. No reason to kneel. Probably not as big a bunch of douchebags as the NFL or NBA.

Hell, I'll even start watching Premier League and Bundesliga if it steers clear of this nonsense.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 25, 2017 07:19 PM (6d7HA)

We'll see with the NHL. I've seen some fans on the Hockey's Future message board go full-on screeching SJW lately.

Not to mention, the NHL has always been on the forefront of the LGBT train, thanks to Brian Burke's son liking to eat feces, and Burke himself starting a movement to try to get LGBT people into playing hockey.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (Vevy5)

349 Time to put away childish things like the NFL and other sports nonsense.

Embrace the freedom and the time regained to be productive.

More time for shooting too!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (5VlCp)

350 328 I thought I couldn't hate the NFL anymore after yesterday. And then, they took the one good moment from yesterday and tied it to a stake and turned it to ash.

Good going NFL.
Posted by: Sandy at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (7kHvS)

"Now way could people get more pissed off today at the NFL after their poor behavior Sunday"

NFL: "Hold My Beer"

Posted by: buzzion at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (z/Ubi)

351 Anheiser-Busch = Clydesdale horse piss. Pass it on.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (it+WZ)

352 Oops -- Roethlisberger.

Posted by: Shopgirl at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (drU0K)

353 How's this go? Oh yah. . .WAR.

They get nothing. They don't get to keep the labels of 'justice' and 'warrior' because there is nothing of justice in the Left's agenda and they are most certainly not 'warriors' in anyway shape shape or form beyond the delusions and voices in their pointy little heads.

Posted by: AdamPM at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (uSn+c)

354 'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'
--------------------------------------
He means YOU. YOU have no clue.
HE knows. He has received the gnosis!

With enough time in re-education camp, when YOU lose your false consciousness, then you too will know!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (0jtPF)

355

3 tours as a Ranger

Bronze Star

Hero

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (1LbB2)

356 So we ain't talking bout scoamf taping Trump any more Hum well well

Posted by: vizzy at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (s5Khz)

357 329 WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO THIS COUNTRY????
Posted by: Max Power at September 25, 2017 07:23 PM (QCc6B)

Happened. Past tense already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (mbhDw)

358 Anyone watching the NFL or NBA is complicit in the destruction of our sacred traditions and customs and is giving cover to the perpetuation of a lie.

A message must be sent and these leagues need to be destroyed.

Fuck them.

Granted it will be easy for me because the Knicks and Giants suck but the NFL and NBA have taken sides.

NFL rules clearly state that the antham shall be played and players and coaches will stand for it, this is the same league that has dissallowed messaging such as those to honor slain cops at the hands of BLM, religious statements, etc.

Fuck them.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (9A6UB)

359 I'm not sure why you think he was so pressured. It seems to me more like he was leaning this way and just needed a slight nudge. I doubt any heavy pressure came into it.

The evidence is in Ace's favor. The coach came out snarling about how the guy let them all down and was mad at him. What do you expect happens to a player that has the coach mad at him? You figure no 'heavy pressure' came into it, somehow??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (39g3+)

360 You will be made to take a knee.

Posted by: ShainS at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (mi1iB)

361 Culture war means fighting everywhere at once.

I'd like to see #footballgate happen the way #gamergate happened, but I just don't see the football fans taking back their sport.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (xJa6I)

362 345 The only way that organizations like the NFL will learn is if they are forced to learn by fans destroying their profits. They will not listen to us any other way and we have no leverage over them. They have to suffer, even if it means the left wins by destroying a beloved American institution.

Because the others beloved institutions need to learn to tell the left to F off when they are trying to corrupt and infiltrate. How else can we do it? We can't take over the company, they will not listen to letters or emails, social media means nothing to these guys. Hit em in the wallet.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (39g3+)

And it's rough, because the Cultural Left wins either way.

Either we turn out and they completely destroy the NFL like they've wanted to for at least 15 years now, or they successfully turn it into another preachy no-escapism SJW vehicle.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (Vevy5)

363 I look at our leaders - from the Church and government to corporate boards and even sports teams - and it seems all of them have suicide wishes.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (yX3gx)

364 Turn out... meant Tune out. Argh.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (Vevy5)

365 The left hates America. Period. Lefties from my generation the Boomers are still raging. That's how they got their rocks off in the 60's hoping to bang some pot addled unwashed hippie chick who would think they were brave when they marched in crowd and chanted some mindless slogan.

Fuckers. Same shit over and over.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (dCikz)

366 344 NHL season starts soon. Mostly foreigners. No reason to kneel.

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Ice, though. Hard to kneel in skates
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (z2W2E)

How many black pro hockey players are there? QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (mbhDw)

367 @298: " I'll even start watching Premier League and Bundesliga if it steers clear of this nonsense."

It's not like either of those leagues are *less* communist. They just didn't have the image of being all patriotic and stuff.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (rznWS)

368 "We still have no clue of what being born white means."
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If we follow their rules, cannot EVERY single white person self-identify as black? Like that crazy liberal woman, Rachael Dolezal?

And can't we technically say, "I have no idea what being born white means" if we're whiter than Edgar Winter? Because I was born black?

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (aT+Bx)

369 been nfl ticket buyer for 16 yrs, just contacted nfl email to tell them I am done with the double standard of protecting liberal free speech but what would happen if a guy put john 3:16 on his cleats? Told em the Nfl was dead to me. I encourage other nfl ticket buyers to cancel.
God bless America!

Posted by: duncan at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (ioCsx)

370 The owners don't care if they take a hit. So they lose $50M. Meh. To a guy worth billions that's like losing $100 to the average Joe. Yeah you'd rather not lose the $100 than lose it, but you're not going to cry yourself to sleep over it either.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (vyHiq)

371 right now zombie Kruschev is laughing at zombie Truman pounding a shoe on the podium saying I told you so.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (vIjh1)

372 Being born white means melanin challenged. Can I get a disability sticker? Easier to park.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (/xxOG)

373 It's been a while since I've read 1984, but if I recall correctly, when Winston Smith was jailed for Thought Crime there were other Outer Party members such as him in the jail, along with some proles.

The other Outer Party members were as terrified as Winston, but the proles were all, "Fuck You!"

Posted by: davidt at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (BFYeS)

374 The only way that organizations like the NFL will learn is if they are forced to learn by fans destroying their profits. They will not listen to us any other way and we have no leverage over them. They have to suffer, even if it means the left wins by destroying a beloved American institution.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (39g3+)

We could, at least, stop letting them steal tax dollars for the stadiums they play in. Let them build their own stadiums. They can afford it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (8gDQu)

375 John McCain is a hero. Fk him too.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (UdKB7)

376

Get some perspective people

3 tours as a Ranger, Bronze Star

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (1LbB2)

377 360 You will be made to take a knee.
Posted by: ShainS at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (mi1iB)

"That's what we keep saying but no one believes us."

- - Islam

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (mbhDw)

378 Posted by: Captain Kirock at September 25, 2017 06:49 PM (W4/fk)

Maybe, but in light of his twitter last night, I don't think so. And why did it take so long for him to explain & regret it.

That, to me, was a perfectly crafted PR explanation that tried to serve both the team & outraged fans & not PO the military.

I've seen the sausage being made too often to believe this is an authentic & true statement.

But wasn't there, so JMO.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (7TeYi)

379 I wonder if this was on Goodel's resume when he just asked for a review and contract renewal. Obviously most owners are complete dumb asses.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (it+WZ)

380 Oh, yeah, no pressure; your whole team on the other side of the line; your coach, the owner of your team, the league commissioner; Hell, that's not pressure
it's a piece of cake with whipped creame on top.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (XntMs)

381 We could, at least, stop letting them steal tax dollars for the stadiums they play in. Let them build their own stadiums. They can afford it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (8gDQu)

Yes, this.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (Ri/rl)

382 376 Get some perspective people

3 tours as a Ranger, Bronze Star
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (1LbB2)

That means he more than anyone else I can think of should have doubled or tripled down on what he did today, not take it back.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (mbhDw)

383 339 America has come to this; a war veteran is coerced into apologizing for saluting the flag.

==

How the hell do you "coerce" a huge muscular, decorated war-veteran into renouncing the American flag?

The NFL got hit -squads now?

I call bullshit.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (2wRtc)

You do it the way almost all of us are coerced into taking it: they control our jobs.

Wanna work? Toe the company line.
Wanna play the sport you love? Lick that line, suck it, Ranger.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (xJa6I)

384 You know what this thread needs? Somebody to remind us that most of this is outside the ten mile civic and cultural exclusion zone, that it's just hysteria on our part, and that we should go bowling.
And if he can work in a pancakes and shoplifting has-been reference, even better.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (NtiaQ)

385 107 Two tours of Afghanistan couldn't bring him down. But shamed by SJW was just too much for him. SAD!
Posted by: MrX at September 25, 2017 06:58 PM (QpMYC)

In general, Pittsburgh sports teams have EXTREMELY left-wing front offices to begin with.

Their NHL team, the Penguins, even has a Clinton Operative (David Morehouse) running day-to-day operations.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (Vevy5)

386 subhuman taxpayer: "I see the Goodel has pressured Jerry's Team into making a pregame statement."

I wonder if the negotiation point was, "OK, if you drop your case against Elliot."

'Cause this is over money above all else. Period. End of story.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (H8S+R)

387 That means he more than anyone else I can think of should have doubled or tripled down on what he did today, not take it back.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (mbhDw)

Yesterday.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (mbhDw)

388 3 tours as a Ranger

Bronze Star

Hero
Posted by: ThunderB

Apologized for saluting the flag.
Shit on those who died fighting under it.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (na0uG)

389 Could the DNC please hire Goodell? Please.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (INJFV)

390 Also... since everything is now about race in sports, I will only watch professional hockey.

Which is a Designated White Sport.

If they want to make the NFL and NBA Designated Black Sports, what the hell, knock yourself out .I'm sure the gang bangers and welfare queens will pony up for those season tickets and luxury boxes and fill your coffers with cash from their merch purchases.

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (aT+Bx)

391 Well they finally got to me, as a big fan of my beloved Packers for over 50 years I can no longer watch an NFL game.

Posted by: mark at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (VP9hW)

392 377 360 You will be made to take a knee.
Posted by: ShainS at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (mi1iB)

"That's what we keep saying but no one believes us."

- - Islam
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (mbhDw)

Yep. Coercion... it's a thing.

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (zSVEm)

393 I'm 53, folks. My friends, family, acquaintances, hell even my enemies know that I was a sports nut. I'm now out on professional sports. Period. All of it.

We have lost our way as a country. There is a reckoning coming and I believe in the eyes of the Almighty, we will be found wanting.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (F0ZHr)

394 Wesley Clark - Democrat.

Jimmy Carter - Democrat.

John Kerry - Democrat.

Bob Kerrey - Democrat (winner of medal of Honor)

Max Cleland - Democrat.

John Murtha - Democrat.

Jack Reed - Democrat.

Daniel Inouye - Democrat. (winner of Medal of Honor)

Jim Webb - Democrat.

Charles Rangel - Democrat.

Al Gore- Democrat

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (2wRtc)

395 Damage control...that's what this is.

How are people reacting on the social media platforms I wonder.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (7TeYi)

396 NHL season starts soon. Mostly foreigners. No reason to kneel. Probably not as big a bunch of douchebags as the NFL or NBA.

Major League Baseball is winding up its regular season, with hot series deciding post season slots. Exciting games, records being broken, great play by young, happy men. What's not to like, especially for the 'ettes?

Its always infuriated me that the NFL takes over all coverage and discussion just as Baseball is really heating up. All the sports news magazines, all the talk shows, all the tv shows, they all turn into football once their pre-season starts up and F the American passtime. Yet another win for the left.

Baseball is cheaper to see a game at than football, plays more often, and you can play catch in the park and talk about the game with your kid any day of the week. Baseball is at the very core of America.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (39g3+)

397 Get some perspective people

3 tours as a Ranger, Bronze Star
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM

...And is now embarrassed about having paid proper respect to our anthem and flag.

Posted by: Wahshiya at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (S3dtp)

398 >>
'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'

Duuuuuude! You still don't get it: They despise allies. You up there pretending to be down with the struggle, speaking on their behalf? Get in the back, that's cultural appropriation of their precious victimhood.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2017 07:30 PM (W+vEI)

399 I need more bags of dicks please....

"Sunday night's nationally televised game between the Washington Redskins and Oakland Raiders on NBC was the lowest-rated Week 3 game since 2006, according to Nielsen Media Research."

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:30 PM (vyHiq)

400 3 tours as a Ranger

Bronze Star

Hero

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (1LbB2)

Who now shits all over the idea of America to support a bunch of lowlifes and douchebags.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:30 PM (8gDQu)

401 The Left destroys everything it touches, and from just1 then a few players has made the NFL into a political organization.

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2017 07:30 PM (ghofu)

402 379 I wonder if this was on Goodel's resume when he just asked for a review and contract renewal. Obviously most owners are complete dumb asses.
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (it+WZ)

Goodell is, I believe, making in the range of $40 million a year. How much of that is being subsidized by the NHL and MLB?

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 25, 2017 07:30 PM (nBr1j)

403 366
How many black pro hockey players are there? QED.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (mbhDw)

How many black kids can afford hockey gear?

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:30 PM (Vevy5)

404 Not all Soviets believed in communism. But they were made to publicly proclaim that they did.

This is the weird thing I keep coming back to. We do not really live in something equivalent to the USSR yet. But the NFL/entertainment/news complex keeps acting as if we do. But these tactics cannot work positively for them, in the current context, as opposed to the Stalinist one.

An apology from someone famous in the USSR would cause the proles to react in fear "Oh my goodness! If they can make this person recant, I'd better watch my step!"

But at this point in America, this kind of apology just produces disgust, not fear. This was exactly the wrong move to make. They should have just ignored it. It will just alienate more fans.

The NFL and the left keeps acting like it has leverage that it does not really have.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (/qEW2)

405 In general, Pittsburgh sports teams have EXTREMELY left-wing front offices to begin with.

What is their fan base like?
Left wing godless commie heathens?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (na0uG)

406 Rugby! Yesterday my son and I watched a Brit rugby match rather than the "F*ck this sh!it" NFL. Exeter vs. Wasps. At one point in the match several BIG players got into a shoving match. We both simultaneously said "Wow!" Those guys had no pads or helmets. Makes the "F*ck this sh!it" NFL look like the whiny wimps they are.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (T71PA)

407 384 You know what this thread needs? Somebody to remind us that most of this is outside the ten mile civic and cultural exclusion zone, that it's just hysteria on our part, and that we should go bowling.
And if he can work in a pancakes and shoplifting has-been reference, even better.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (NtiaQ)

Careful, you'll summon him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (xJa6I)

408 The NFL doesn't seem to understand how bad the optics are here.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (ppaKI)

409 373. Outer Party members were the most heavily policed, as they represented an existential threat but were necessary to IngSoc. The proles were animals, and IngSoc spent a lot of effort to keep them ignorant and degraded.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (NtiaQ)

410 I can't keep up with you gahhs, you're unbeleebahbul.

The players grabbed a super tar baby and hugged it. The NFL brass tried to help them and they are caught too. They have no positive path out.

I predict pain.

Everywhere I go on the net and look around, comment sections on this subject have Yuge comment counts, dwarfing everything else.

Posted by: Old Glory at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (3myMJ)

411 339 America has come to this; a war veteran is coerced into apologizing for saluting the flag.

==

How the hell do you "coerce" a huge muscular, decorated war-veteran into renouncing the American flag?

The NFL got hit -squads now?

I call bullshit.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:24 PM (2wRtc)

Very simple.... he pissed off the Coach, and his team mates, and now his multi million dollar job may be on the line...

If he is cut? especially for conduct detrimental to team discipline (ie, going against the coach)... he will loose over $20 MILLION dollars...

That is how you coerce a big strong guy....

Posted by: Don Q. at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (NgKpN)

412 394 Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (2wRtc)

George McGovern:

35 roundtrips over Germany in the pilot seat of a B-24. But that is not the same person who ran for president in 1972 and had no bearing on his beliefs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (mbhDw)

413 I'm curious to know the percentage of NBA viewers who are white. I wonder how they feel about all of this?

Posted by: Mike at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (c056A)

414 How the hell do you "coerce" a huge muscular, decorated war-veteran into renouncing the American flag?

He didn't renounce the American flag, he stated that he let his team down by not being with them and going out to stand on the sidelines. That's how you do it: apologize or never play again, your team is pissed at you, nobody will support or block for you, we were supposed to be a team.

A military guy knows all about team cohesion and being part of the squad, easy to play off that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (39g3+)

415 >>Damage control...that's what this is.

Completely agree. They couldn't give the 'stand for the anthem' crowd/Trump a win, any win.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (W+vEI)

416 409 373. Outer Party members were the most heavily policed, as they represented an existential threat but were necessary to IngSoc. The proles were animals, and IngSoc spent a lot of effort to keep them ignorant and degraded.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (NtiaQ)

So the GOPe and the voters, respectively today?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (xJa6I)

417 Think Popovich should limit his concerns to "white millionaire jock coach privilege". How much money and time does he devote to helping those he deems less privileged, or his concern limited to attacking people who can't help who their parents are?

Posted by: OCBill at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (df+Zi)

418

Loss of job

Pariah

Guys trying to hurt you every Sunday

Team hates you

Commissioner prolly hates you

3 tours as a Ranger

Bronze Star

Hes the asshole

Get back to me when you've done 3 tours

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:33 PM (1LbB2)

419 You will be made to take a knee.
Posted by: ShainS at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (mi1iB)

"That's what we keep saying but no one believes us."

- - Islam
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (mbhDw)

Yep. Coercion... it's a thing.
Posted by: kraken

Let us get the shooting started then.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:33 PM (na0uG)

420 The evidence is in Ace's favor. The coach came out snarling about how the guy let them all down and was mad at him. What do you expect happens to a player that has the coach mad at him? You figure no 'heavy pressure' came into it, somehow??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:25 PM (39g3+)

No, I don't. Villanueva could have stood his ground if he wanted to.

It's only a friggin game versus supporting a bunch of America-hating shitheads.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:33 PM (8gDQu)

421 You know what this thread needs? Somebody to remind us that most of this is outside the ten mile civic and cultural exclusion zone, that it's just hysteria on our part, and that we should go bowling.
And if he can work in a pancakes and shoplifting has-been reference, even better.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (NtiaQ)
***************************

Sorry, no. This thread is about what we are as a people, and what can be done to us, and what is being done to us, and what we can or are going to do about it. This is not about a stupid football team.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:33 PM (XntMs)

422 That means he more than anyone else I can think of should have doubled or tripled down on what he did today, not take it back.
--

Yeah, here's the thing.

He's Not Black.

Which means that at any point, there could be an "accident" on the field. Or in training.

Or one of the "brothers" on the team could have him taken care of.

Or perhaps his family could be targeted. Maybe his kids, if he has them.

/because that's the world Obama left us.

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:33 PM (aT+Bx)

423 Kill the league. It's war.

Posted by: Brad at September 25, 2017 07:33 PM (+UeH8)

424 FUCK THIS WORLD WE LIVE IN!!!
FUCK IT!

Segregation now.
White nation now.
No libs, trannies, sjw's, progressives, radicals, feminists, LGBTQ fanatics, university professors, Hollywood celebs, pro basketball and football players or critical race theorists, or D.C. politicians need apply.

If we can't have that, then tell Kim Jong-Un to hit the launch button.

Posted by: Major1 at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (UjIiY)

425 408 The NFL doesn't seem to understand how bad the optics are here.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (ppaKI)

___

According to the MSM, Trump is totally losing this war and the people are with the BMLFL. And since they all live in the same bubble (owners/MSM), I don't think the BLMFL higher ups think anything will happen negatively.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (vyHiq)

426 Being born white means being able to choose to take that lot of money spent on watching pro sports and spend it on friends, family, and charity. I'd love it if the NFL went back to what it was before the 80's when players had off-season jobs (and their Topps cards listed them!)

Posted by: SFGoth at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (dZ756)

427 Waiting for the photoshop with Villanueva on his knees and ISIS and Goodell forcing him to recant his crimes. Probably already been made

Posted by: brak at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (5iU/N)

428 403 366
How many black pro hockey players are there? QED.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (mbhDw)

How many black kids can afford hockey gear?
Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:30 PM (Vevy5)

Hockey is one of the more expensive sports to raise your kids in--ice rinks to rent, $400 skates, $100 sticks--summer camps and not subsidized by schools.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (nBr1j)

429 Rugby.. I played intramural rugby in college.. I was undersized compared to most, smaller target, harder to smash... still.. broken nose, stitches over left eye, broken little finger, etc.
Loved every game.. the beer drinking after the game was Epic!!

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (zSVEm)

430 Words matter.

Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (bfUpy)

431 Get some perspective people

3 tours as a Ranger, Bronze Star
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:28 PM (1LbB2)

I got lots of perspective. Fuck him, fuck his teammates, fuck the league. Give 'em herpes if you have it.

What's the issue? Its a shitty cultural institution that I can see no reason to give money or attention to. What more perspective is necessary?

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (CPk08)

432
The owners don't care if they take a hit. So they lose $50M. Meh. To a guy worth billions that's like losing $100 to the average Joe. Yeah you'd rather not lose the $100 than lose it, but you're not going to cry yourself to sleep over it either.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (vyHiq)

There isn't an NFL franchise worth less than 700 million.If you destroy your franchise's good name you stand to lose a lot more than 50 million

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (lKyWE)

433 If he is cut? especially for conduct detrimental to team discipline (ie, going against the coach)... he will loose over $20 MILLION dollars...

That is how you coerce a big strong guy....
Posted by: Don Q.

So he will never work for another team again?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (na0uG)

434 @329: "WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO THIS COUNTRY????"

The Left is winning. Think of it this way:

Dan Dreiberg: What happened to us? What happened to the American Dream?
Edward Blake: "What happened to the American Dream?" It came true! You're lookin' at it.....

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (rznWS)

435 416. Yep. And as in Oceania - the Goldstein faction is itself under IngSoc control.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (NtiaQ)

436

Anyone can see what was/is looming for him

Every black guy in the league gunning for him

He was pressured

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (1LbB2)

437 Why doesn't Popovich quit and give his job to an oppressed black coach?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (vyHiq)

438
Wait... shit... is calling a white guy cotton Racist?

Posted by: Don Q.
-----------

Not necessarily.

Posted by: Cotton Mather at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (5IJky)

439 420 No, I don't. Villanueva could have stood his ground if he wanted to.

It's only a friggin game versus supporting a bunch of America-hating shitheads.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:33 PM (8gDQu)

Sadly, it also wouldn't have taken much for some thug-ass dickbag on the next team they play to decide it's time to put a bounty on his head (literally) and just say "fuck it" when it comes to penalties and target him with head-to-head shots all next game.

And most NFL players in 2017 are immature enough to just try that little bit of thuggish idiocy.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (Vevy5)

440 406 Rugby! Yesterday my son and I watched a Brit rugby match rather than the "F*ck this sh!it" NFL. Exeter vs. Wasps. At one point in the match several BIG players got into a shoving match. We both simultaneously said "Wow!" Those guys had no pads or helmets. Makes the "F*ck this sh!it" NFL look like the whiny wimps they are.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (T71PA)

Used to play Rugby many years ago... and weirdly enough... played Left Wing! LOL

Posted by: Don Q. at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (NgKpN)

441 A military guy knows all about team cohesion and being part of the squad, easy to play off that.
==

Your excuses are worse than his.

He should just say " hey, I said this because if I don't I lose 20 million dollars".

THAT is honorable.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (2wRtc)

442
Get back to me when you've done 3 tours
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:33 PM

I only did 2 and don't ever regret paying respect to our flag, so I guess my opinion isn't worth shit huh?

Bowing to SJW BS is the best way forward for this country, right?

Posted by: Wahshiya at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (S3dtp)

443 388 3 tours as a Ranger
Bronze Star
Hero
Posted by: ThunderB

Apologized for saluting the flag.
Shit on those who died fighting under it.

-----------
He didn't do that. Re-read it. I'm pissed off too, but gonna direct my anger at the people responsible. He is the lightening rod for this mess. It is battle he's been tossed into, and has absolutely no back-up this time.

He is in over his head. The thing we should do is be his back-up. Double down. Not be the rubes the NFL thinks we are.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (7TeYi)

444 Segregation now.
White nation now.
No libs, trannies, sjw's, progressives, radicals, feminists, LGBTQ fanatics, university professors, Hollywood celebs, pro basketball and football players or critical race theorists, or D.C. politicians need apply.

If we can't have that, then tell Kim Jong-Un to hit the launch button.
Posted by: Major1 at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (UjIiY0

What a putz.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (CPk08)

445 198 Don't diss the Crimson Tide my man. What our children do when they grow is what it is, while under Saban's tutelage no worries

Posted by: ramajama at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (oAlzZ)

446 Everywhere I go on the net and look around, comment sections on this subject have Yuge comment counts, dwarfing everything else..

Posted by: Old Glory at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (3myMJ)

That's what I'm seeing too...and 99.9% of the comments are NOT positive for the NFL.

Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (Enq6K)

447
The NFL doesn't seem to understand how bad the optics are here.
--

Pretty sure they're going to do the DNC/MSM thing and double or triple down on the crazy.

Which I welcome.

Show John and Jane Doe how much you hate America. Show them how you give millions to BLM activists who hate America. Show them how you hate the white man.

Please.

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (aT+Bx)

448 >>You will be made to take a knee.

Cruel Leonidas demanded that you stand. I require only that you kneel.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (/tuJf)

449 No, I don't. Villanueva could have stood his ground if he wanted to.

EVERYONE can stand their ground if they want to, no matter what the pressure is. That doesn't somehow mean no heavy pressure was applied to him. Its easy to stand back here at your keyboard and attack the guy for being a wimp when its not your career and body on the line.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (39g3+)

450 433 So he will never work for another team again?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (na0uG)

Considering the commissioner supports every bit of this Left-Wing garbage, yes.

He'd be blacklisted.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (Vevy5)

451 I feel like NBA coaches feel almost like they have to say something like that. White people really aren't the NBA's target demo

Posted by: brak at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (5iU/N)

452
Every black guy in the league gunning for him He was pressured
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (1LbB2)

He's an offensive lineman so he has plenty of opportunity to take out knees himself

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (lKyWE)

453 Posted by: Major1 at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (UjIiY)

White national now?! Not every person of color is a regressive/progressive. And if you're hoping for the scenario it isn't going to happen.

Sounds rather Moby-ish

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (iVOAv)

454 J.J. Sefton: "That means he more than anyone else I can think of should have doubled or tripled down on what he did today, not take it back."

Yeah, I don't understand that bit. Presumably the guy was a serious, nationalistic sort. Serving those tours and getting honors means something. I mean you really have to prioritize your life/beliefs to action about which you will not be thwarted. It's in the soul.

So to backtrack so rapidly is stunning. Does the Bronze Star with Valor mean something less now? Like a JFKerry Purple Heart? Where awards are doled out like tic tacs? 'Cause a person who earned such an award DOES NOT wilt so readily. Something's not adding up, or I'm missing large parts of an evolving story.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (H8S+R)

455

Perspective

His worth isnt as a football player

BUT as a person who risked his life as a Ranger

Dont disrespect that

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (1LbB2)

456
How many black pro hockey players are there? QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:26 PM (mbhDw)

P.J. Subban
Wayne Simmons

Canadians, though.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (6d7HA)

457 432
The owners don't care if they take a hit. So they lose $50M. Meh. To a guy worth billions that's like losing $100 to the average Joe. Yeah you'd rather not lose the $100 than lose it, but you're not going to cry yourself to sleep over it either.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (vyHiq)

There isn't an NFL franchise worth less than 700 million.If you destroy your franchise's good name you stand to lose a lot more than 50 million
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 25, 2017 07:34 PM (lKyWE)

____

Well I don't see this destroying any franchises. It will hurt at the margins, for a few weeks. Then come December everyone who swore they'd never watch another game again will be glued to the TV.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:37 PM (vyHiq)

458 370 The owners don't care if they take a hit. So they lose $50M. Meh. To a guy worth billions that's like losing $100 to the average Joe. Yeah you'd rather not lose the $100 than lose it, but you're not going to cry yourself to sleep over it either.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:27 PM (vyHiq)

----------------------------------------------------------------

They will cry if there is not enough votes for new stadium deals, and if their franchise value drops 30% or more over this.

As other have already pointed out - American Football cannot really be globalized either...no matter how much they try.

At this point I will support anything that will destroy the NFL for good. That includes lawsuits over brain damage, ending all tax breaks, even increasing taxes on the 1%. Most of the super wealthy vote democrat now anyway, let them get the Democrat party to protect their property and earnings. That should be funny...

Posted by: William Eaton at September 25, 2017 07:37 PM (MuTTO)

459 444 What a putz.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (CPk0

Sometimes, I wonder if the trolls realize that there ARE black Horde members...

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:37 PM (Vevy5)

460 I never believed in and stil don't believe there wil ever be any shooting civil war but......THIS is a war of words and willpower.

IF the NFL and the tender snowflakes they employ and leftists sports media whores win this battle of wills it is the same as the Dems winning the next elections. Bigly.

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved at September 25, 2017 07:37 PM (oBuXO)

461 Late, as usual.

Wow - so are this guy's just-bought jerseys going to be burned next?

His lying (clear that he lied in his show-trial-like recantation/apology) is very disappointing, and surprising.

State prosecutor Vyshinsky never managed anything better than this. Much more dramatic when a genuine, admirable instinct is acted upon, THEN publicly denied, abandoned.

This young man had his Bowie 15 minutes of fame, now followed by an indeterminate portion of infamy.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (QDnY+)

462 Hockey doesn't care what color you are, other than the red blood you spill on the ice. And the ivory colored teeth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (39g3+)

463 340 I'm also enjoying the failing and flailing Chargers in Los Angeles.

The Spanos family are greedy, lying pricks.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 25, 2017 07:18 PM (79p/O)

Yeah, I'm from San Diego too... F*ck this sh!t.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF?

My husband and I were season tickets holders. Used to love the game, the tailgating, playing against the Raiders. The Spanos family has billions but they wanted the San Diego taxpayer to pick up the tab. I worked for the county, we were broke, the city too. They NEVER bargained in good faith.
Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis
_________

I thought it was cute at yesterday's Chargers game how so many Chargers fans showed up either wearing red or disguised as empty seats.

Posted by: Furious George at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (j+dfT)

464

Sooo.

Do we toss this whole kerfuffle on the "national divorce" pile?

Amicable or ugly?

Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (vIjh1)

465 A military guy knows all about team cohesion and being part of the squad.

That's what they said at My Lai too.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (it+WZ)

466 Used to play Rugby many years ago... and weirdly enough... played Left Wing! LOL

Posted by: Don Q. at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (NgKpN)

I'm really liking the rugby I've seen. I still don't know all of the rules and they've got the count up clock?!? but it is non-stop action.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (T71PA)

467 448 >>You will be made to take a knee.

Cruel Leonidas demanded that you stand. I require only that you kneel.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (/tuJf)

Nice one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (xJa6I)

468
Sounds rather Moby-ish
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (iVOAv)

https://youtu.be/SDWOSVd7ejk

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (CPk08)

469 well to go a little hyperbolic here:

Jesus was offered power by the devil, to betray God. Temptation is real, and Villanueva is in a very high stress position ... all the powers of evil were laid on him by the leftist mafia, all his friends, his new career ... maybe he has some degree of PTSD, whatever ... things get jumbled.

I bring the JC versus the devil thing because it is not so simple as "I believe in America", even for the rangers. It is easy if one is aloof and unattached, but in the middle of the grand deception that has been built against America for decades ... not so easy.

Still ... Villanueva did apparently crater to the pressure. But he also did walk out of that tunnel and stand ... they collectively took him down after that. For that we should hate "them" all the more. They are doing it to Trump .. they are doing it everywhere ... keep your guns.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (yKAUL)

470 Get back to me when you've done 3 tours

Posted by: ThunderB
==

Oh knock that shit off.

He is a flawed human being. With frailties and failings.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (2wRtc)

471

Lotta internet tough guys today

I dont revile him

I pity him

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM (1LbB2)

472 He's an offensive lineman so he has plenty of opportunity to take out knees himself

And allow a few loudmouths to get run over.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM (na0uG)

473 nobody will support or block for you,

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:32 PM (39g3+)

He's an offensive tackle. He supports others and blocks for them. THey need him more than he needs them on the field.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM (8gDQu)

474 The NFL doesn't seem to understand how bad the optics are here.

Hey, its done gangbusters for us!

Posted by: Marvel Comics at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM (Mouru)

475 Mort get back to me when youve risked ypur life

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM (1LbB2)

476 461 Late, as usual.

Wow - so are this guy's just-bought jerseys going to be burned next?

His lying (clear that he lied in his show-trial-like recantation/apology) is very disappointing, and surprising.

State prosecutor Vyshinsky never managed anything better than this. Much more dramatic when a genuine, admirable instinct is acted upon, THEN publicly denied, abandoned.

This young man had his Bowie 15 minutes of fame, now followed by an indeterminate portion of infamy.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (QDnY+)

Yeah, but if he didn't recant, he'd have been Tebowed out of football.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM (xJa6I)

477 Then come December everyone who swore they'd never watch another game again will be glued to the TV.

Would you care to lay a wager with one of us?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (F0ZHr)

478 Personally, I like the fact that the players at the game in London stood during God Save the Queen but took a knee during the National Anthem.

Great optics people. Great.

/eff them. Move to the UK and try to get a football job there.

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (aT+Bx)

479 Lotta internet tough guys today

I dont revile him
===

Pointing out that a man failed is not being an internet tough guy.

It's being a realist.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (2wRtc)

480 451 I feel like NBA coaches feel almost like they have to say something like that. White people really aren't the NBA's target demo
Posted by: brak at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (5iU/N)

___

I think the same goes for white NFL players. When the league is 70% black, do you really want to be the one white guy out there with a target on your back?

I think Tom Brady did his stupid shit knowing that either he kneels or his guards and tackles "forget" how to block for him. Can't blame the guy in a way.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (vyHiq)

481 321 305

willow, there's always curling... and rugby clubs...

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:22 PM (zSVEm

Is there a black-market site for Lawn Darts?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (OKuv5)

482 BUT as a person who risked his life as a Ranger

Dont disrespect that

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (1LbB2)

Don't tell us. Tell Villanueva.

Sheesh.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (8gDQu)

483
Lotta internet tough guys today

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM

Self-awareness not your thing?

Posted by: Wahshiya at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (S3dtp)

484 Cruel Leonidas demanded that you stand. I require only that you kneel.
Posted by: JackStraw

And Negan.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (na0uG)

485 471

Lotta internet tough guys today

I dont revile him

I pity him
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM (1LbB2)

It's not like he's Steve Bartman, or anything...

Posted by: kraken at September 25, 2017 07:40 PM (zSVEm)

486 So the left screamed when Tim Teabow took his knee.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:41 PM (it+WZ)

487

Now irs Me Lai?

Oh fuck off

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:41 PM (1LbB2)

488 Mort get back to me when youve risked ypur life

Posted by: ThunderB
===

Obviously you have granted him absolution.

There is nothing for me to say.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:41 PM (2wRtc)

489 454 Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (H8S+R)

I think he was pressured, and mightily. And although he of all people as I said should have not recanted, I would backtrack and say unless I am walking in one's shoes, I can't claim the moral high ground of saying what one should or should not do in a given circumstance.

Remember those who are closet conservatives in Hollywood and in the broader society. Open your mouth and your life is destroyed. Hell, if CNN etc is willing to kill its stockholders and viewership to advance the meme, anything goes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:41 PM (mbhDw)

490 457 . . . There isn't an NFL franchise worth less than 700 million.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic
____________

I'm working on it. Give me a couple more weeks and I'll have it taken care of.

Posted by: Dean Spanos at September 25, 2017 07:41 PM (j+dfT)

491 Is there a black-market site for Lawn Darts?
Posted by: Cicero

Metal lathe and a 3 D printer...

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2017 07:41 PM (na0uG)

492 Until today I had no idea the Chargers moved to L.A.

The more you know......

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (vyHiq)

493 @396: "Baseball is at the very core of America."

At least George Will still has one acolyte.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (rznWS)

494 One more thing...remember how awful these thugs are.

Death threats and threats of violence from SJWs at large is SOP. We know this. That he is receiving those toward him &/or his family is not really a stretch.

Emotions say...screw him!

Intellect & experience says...this is our battle. He was outmanned. But we better learn from this b/c someday it will be us if things don't change.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (7TeYi)

495 475 Mort get back to me when youve risked ypur life
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM (1LbB2)

You need to slow your roll.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (LuKE7)

496

Its like Me Lai

Hes a coward

The Bronxe Star aint what it used to be

Nailed. It

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (1LbB2)

497 456 Canadians, though.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (6d7HA)

Donald Brashear and Dustin Byfuglien might have been the only black American players the league had in the last 20 years.

Pretty sure all the rest (Simmonds, Daley, Grand-Pierre, Anson Carter, Laraque, Evander Kane, Nigel Dawes, Oduya, Chris Stewart, Iginla) were Canadian.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (Vevy5)

498 ThunderB, there are lots of people on this blog that have been shot at in exotic foreign locales, including me, so save the sanctimony. We've retreated for almost 30 years on what used to be bedrock principles of American exceptionalism, character, and freedoms. This is just another sad chapter on the road to Gomorrah.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (F0ZHr)

499 462 Hockey doesn't care what color you are, other than the red blood you spill on the ice. And the ivory colored teeth.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (39g3+)

*****

"...and ivory colored tooth."

Corrected for accuracy.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (M+MSn)

500 Rugby! Yesterday my son and I watched a Brit rugby match rather than the "F*ck this sh!it" NFL. Exeter vs. Wasps. At one point in the match several BIG players got into a shoving match. We both simultaneously said "Wow!" Those guys had no pads or helmets. Makes the "F*ck this sh!it" NFL look like the whiny wimps they are.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM

Some biffo for you...

https://youtu.be/y-_rDKbyM3I

Posted by: otho at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (qGuLD)

501 I've never had any use for pro sports, and it irritates the hell out of me that colleges/universities serve as farms.

If you enjoy pro sports, fine, but to elevate it or the athletes to worshipful status is shallow, childish, and wasteful.

Sorry, but there it is.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (w1zJX)

502 @403: "How many black kids can afford hockey gear?"

Can't they just throw a riot and acquire some?

I denounce myself.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (rznWS)

503 51 Wow...what did they threaten him with? This is the saddest fucking moment of this whole mess.
Posted by: Gem at September 25, 2017 06:53 PM (5aq94)

========

"Nice pair of healthy knees you've got there -- be a shame if one of your teammates accidentally rolled into them."

Posted by: ShainS at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (mi1iB)

504 Why in the world would Villanueva have any concern for his family's safety?

http://bleacherreport.com /articles/25919 -nfl-all-time-felon-team

https://www.usatoday. com/sports /nfl/arrests/

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (XntMs)

505 ThunderB, there are lots of people on this blog that have been shot at in exotic foreign locales, including me, so save the sanctimony. We've retreated for almost 30 years on what used to be bedrock principles of American exceptionalism, character, and freedoms. This is just another sad chapter on the road to Gomorrah.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2017 07:42 PM (F0ZHr)

^^^This

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (T71PA)

506 lebron james went on a long discourse attacking trump and explaining that the protests are not about the flag, they're about... equality!

james is thoughtful and serious guy. (intends to be a billionaire, buffett follower). it's interesting - not injustice or justice or police brutality or blm, but equality. and you know what? he's right. all of this, the sjw's and blm (founded by marxists) are shades of the egalitarian spectrum: the left.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (AxFdW)

507 He's an offensive tackle. He supports others and blocks for them. They need him more than he needs them on the field.

He's not alone in that line... unless the guys next to him hate him, that is. I don't like that he backed down. I wish he'd given them the finger. But I am not in his shoes to make that decision, either.

What annoyed me is all the people buying his jersey.

What did they think they were accomplishing with that? HE doesn't get paid because of that. Nobody in his job gets a contract for merch. The team gets that money; the very people you're supposedly mad at. Its like buying more Starbucks coffee because you're annoyed with their "hire more immigrants" scheme. OOH, that will show 'em

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:44 PM (39g3+)

508 464 Sooo. Do we toss this whole kerfuffle on the "national divorce" pile? Amicable or ugly?
Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2017 07:38 PM (vIjh1)

They do not want a divorce; they are Muslim males who want your clit cut or your throat slit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:44 PM (mbhDw)

509 I dont have the power to give anybody absolution

I likewise wouldnt judge him as a coward ir a Me Lai murderer

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:44 PM (1LbB2)

510 I think we should focus our rage where it belongs: on the Steeler's coach, on the jackass players who went along with this display.

No need to treat each other here like we would treat Moby trolls.

Target the bad guys, guys.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:44 PM (xJa6I)

511 384 You know what this thread needs? Somebody to remind us that most of this is outside the ten mile civic and cultural exclusion zone, that it's just hysteria on our part, and that we should go bowling.
And if he can work in a pancakes and shoplifting has-been reference, even better.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 25, 2017 07:29 PM (NtiaQ)
Careful, you'll summon him.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:31 PM (xJa6I)

Oh boy! I'm gonna chase down Mr. Softee and get me a double cone with sprinkles. Chocolate too!

Let's go!.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 25, 2017 07:44 PM (5VlCp)

512 I'm not going to assume some negative connotation for the Ranger's actions as I don't know what happened behind the scenes.

The Ranger gets a pass. He didn't betray his team in battle, where it mattered. I'll assume he's just trying to get a team back together to play football.

Which leads to the thing I haven't heard anyone talk about. I have the sense all the teams are in disarray emotionally. There's no team morale or spirit. Any attempted is contrived. How do you think the white players are feeling, whether they support the actions or not?

Posted by: Old Glory at September 25, 2017 07:44 PM (3myMJ)

513 I don't see why the clarification to the post is warranted. V. could have refused to apologize and taken whatever consequences the coach imposed. A gun wasn't held to V.'s head. I don't see why his capitulation is above reproach. (I don't feel strongly about this, just think disappointment with V. is not unreasonable.)

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (H5knJ)

514 I respect and honor his service and what he did.

I am sickened and disgusted by what he does now.

My standard John McCain speech.

It's sad that I even have to say this.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (2wRtc)

515 Tucker should be a treat tonight.

Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (bfUpy)

516 james is thoughtful and serious guy

Lebron James is a mewling brat.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (F0ZHr)

517 Peer pressure- what is it good for- absolutely everything.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (hcB66)

518 He didn't do that. Re-read it. I'm pissed off too, but gonna direct my anger at the people responsible. He is the lightening rod for this mess. It is battle he's been tossed into, and has absolutely no back-up this time.

He is in over his head. The thing we should do is be his back-up. Double down. Not be the rubes the NFL thinks we are.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (7TeYi)

Joe The Plumber took much worse when Barky decided to trespass on his lawn and Joe made Barky admit to the socialist dunce that he is. The state government went after Joe, his whole life was being exposed, he was being threatened with jail and fines and all sorts of crap, he found himself all of a sudden in the middle of a leftist media maelstrom ... but he stood his ground - and stood it well.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (8gDQu)

519

This 1 foitball player who hapoens to be a vet didnt do anything to you so spare the drama

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (1LbB2)

520 506 lebron james went on a long discourse attacking trump and explaining that the protests are not about the flag, they're about... equality!

james is thoughtful and serious guy. (intends to be a billionaire, buffett follower). it's interesting - not injustice or justice or police brutality or blm, but equality. and you know what? he's right. all of this, the sjw's and blm (founded by marxists) are shades of the egalitarian spectrum: the left.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (AxFdW)

So, shorter Lebron: "Even though I'm a multi millionaire, I can't stand others having it so they must surrender their wealth because, equality."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (mbhDw)

521 Fark the Steelers. They lost to the pathetic Bears and I hope the lose the rest of their games

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (auHtY)

522 475
Mort get back to me when youve risked ypur life

Does being a 19 yr old white boy delivering bread in Dallas South Oak Cliff at 4am to bring home diapers and food count ?

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:46 PM (it+WZ)

523 ThunderB, there are lots of people on this blog that have been shot at
in exotic foreign locales, including me, so save the sanctimony. We've
retreated for almost 30 years on what used to be bedrock principles of
American exceptionalism, character, and freedoms. This is just another
sad chapter on the road to Gomorrah.
==

Yep.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:46 PM (2wRtc)

524 ... james, the billionaire to be, is probab;y more right than he knows.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 25, 2017 07:46 PM (AxFdW)

525 518 He didn't do that. Re-read it. I'm pissed off too, but gonna direct my anger at the people responsible. He is the lightening rod for this mess. It is battle he's been tossed into, and has absolutely no back-up this time.

He is in over his head. The thing we should do is be his back-up. Double down. Not be the rubes the NFL thinks we are.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (7TeYi)

Joe The Plumber took much worse when Barky decided to trespass on his lawn and Joe made Barky admit to the socialist dunce that he is. The state government went after Joe, his whole life was being exposed, he was being threatened with jail and fines and all sorts of crap, he found himself all of a sudden in the middle of a leftist media maelstrom ... but he stood his ground - and stood it well.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (8gDQu)

And when he said something wrong about 'the gayz', PJMedia dropped him in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 25, 2017 07:46 PM (xJa6I)

526 Villanueva's apology has Mike Tomlin's racist fingerprints all over it

Yeah, I abso-f*cking-lutely meant to say that.

#FvckTheNFL

Posted by: DocJ at September 25, 2017 07:46 PM (7bkOX)

527 At least George Will still has one acolyte.

If you think George Will came up with that or is the only human being that realizes its validity, you're ignorant of 150 years of US history. Baseball IS America. Its the American passtime, its part of the "American as..." statements for 100 years. Its what pulled us all together at the darkest times in our past. It was the common theme that helped soldiers in combat stay sane and recognize each other: who plays for the Yankees?

Baseball is the core of America, largely abandoned recently because, well, some people hate America.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:46 PM (39g3+)

528 This feels like Benghazi to me . stand down orders, two lone guys jumping in with both feet alone.
no help arrives, and No one not the generals no one does shit!.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (FKrah)

529 @432: "There isn't an NFL franchise worth less than 700 million.If you destroy
your franchise's good name you stand to lose a lot more than 50 million"

No chance they'd just wrangle themselves a little casheesh from the gummint. NFL bailout or what-have-you. Most pro-sports owners could buy and sell Congress a couple times over.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (rznWS)

530 >>Rugby! Yesterday my son and I watched a Brit rugby match rather than the "F*ck this sh!it" NFL. Exeter vs. Wasps. At one point in the match several BIG players got into a shoving match. We both simultaneously said "Wow!" Those guys had no pads or helmets. Makes the "F*ck this sh!it" NFL look like the whiny wimps they are.

One of my favorite parts of my last job was all the travel to the southern hemisphere, places like Australia, New Zealand and South Africa where rugby is practically a religion. It was on the tube all the time, they even had rugby marathon showings. I miss that.

I played one year in college after I was done with football and it was a blast. I think it's a sport that could really catch on here if it was done right.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (/tuJf)

531
Mort get back to me when youve risked ypur life
===

I cleaned the gutters this weekend.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (2wRtc)

532 BUT as a person who risked his life as a Ranger
Dont disrespect that

I don't think we disrepecting his service. He didn't ask to be put in this position and we don't know his reasons for his behaviour. Just because he was a Ranger though doesn't make him right.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (UdKB7)

533 In what other country would these ass cunts be millionaires?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (vyHiq)

534
There isn't an NFL franchise worth less than 700 million.If you destroy your franchise's good name you stand to lose a lot more than 50 million
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic

They probably assume the average pissed off Joe will get over his snit. They are probably right.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (IqV8l)

535 508 They do not want a divorce; they are Muslim males who want your clit cut or your throat slit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:44 PM (mbhDw)

"Cut your clit or your throat slit".

Poetic License, esteemed sir Cob.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (Vevy5)

536 The NFL: Playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Cool your Jets with an Outrage Outlet Snarlin' Smoothie! at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (66/E/)

537 james is thoughtful and serious guy.

He's a big mouth douche bag. He can FOAD

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (auHtY)

538 437 Why doesn't Popovich quit and give his job to an oppressed black coach?
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:35 PM (vyHiq)

This should be blasted all over his Twitter feed mercilessly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (mbhDw)

539 I cleaned the gutters this weekend.
*snort. This is why I love you.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (CNHr1)

540 520 So, shorter Lebron: "Even though I'm a multi millionaire, I can't stand others having it so they must surrender their wealth because, equality."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (mbhDw)

That's the entire Left in a nutshell.

Except not just about wealth, also about simple things like, oh, Electricity.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (Vevy5)

541 I have the sense all the teams are in disarray emotionally. There's no team morale or spirit.

I wouldn't be surprised. I don't think these guys minds are on football or the team at all. And I suspect the coaches aren't good enough to bring them back, either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (39g3+)

542

I am not saying his apology is right

Im not even sure its his

Im saying this hyperbole, this drama, that hes a coward, a Me Lai massacre murderer

Its fucking ridiculous

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (1LbB2)

543 In what other country would these ass cunts be millionaires?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (vyHiq)

Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Uganda..well maybe not but at least in those countries they wouldn't have to suffer under whitey

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (auHtY)

544 An honest observation: taking a knee is about black equality, and blacks being treated differently than the police, correct?

If yes, how is protesting the flag related to any of that?

We are not in a totalitarian state. We have freedom of speech, and the government does not control the words and actions of each and every white person in America.

All of the police officers in America are not employed by the U.S. Government. They are paid by their municipalities. They are not controlled by the government either.

So how does protesting "America" at a football game relate at all to "injustices" committed by individualized in localized areas?

Do the black players wish for a totalitarian state where they are rulers and whites are slaves? Is that what they really want? White slaves? Because that is sure what it seems like.

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (aT+Bx)

545 LeBron James runs around and throws a ball.

His authority to lecture me on any sort of societal issue is nil.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (oVJmc)

546
They probably assume the average pissed off Joe will get over his snit. They are probably right.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (IqV8l)

I'm an average joe who has followed football for over 45 years and I'm done with it.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (lKyWE)

547 The only way LeBron James could be any dumber is if he was Maxine Waters.

Posted by: Garrett at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (AoT+t)

548 ThunderB, we're angry because Country is Bigger . Losing the country Leaves everyone not crazy Left cronie, gasping and suffering for decades.

We would have stood with Him.
We the people! He doesn't realize what a loss this is to The people that Love the country and want to save it?

it was like a kick in the teeth.

again

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (FKrah)

549 As a team, it was not a protest of the flag or the Anthem. I personally don't believe the Anthem is ever the time to make any type of protest. For me, and many others on my team and around the league, it is a tribute to those who commit to serve and protect our country, current and past, especially the ones that made the ultimate sacrifice.
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 06:49

Yeah, nice weasel words. In other words you put your team and $$$ our your country. *spit* What a piece of sheet! And pretty dunb, this will cost you $$$ in the long run.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (yJ1e6)

550 james is thoughtful and serious guy

Kevin James is more "thoughtful and serious" than LeBrat

Posted by: DocJ at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (7bkOX)

551 Baseball IS America. Its the American passtime, its part of the "American as..." statements for 100 years. Its what pulled us all together at the darkest times in our past. It was the common theme that helped soldiers in combat stay sane and recognize each other: who plays for the Yankees?

Baseball is the core of America, largely abandoned recently because, well, some people hate America.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:46 PM (39g3+)

______

Baseball may have been all that several generations ago. But since the 80s/90s, it's been slowly fading away to niche sport status. I don't think it has to do with America hating, things just change over time. It's a 19th century game that isn't suited for the 21st century.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (vyHiq)

552 I cleaned the gutters this weekend.

I fell off a 2 story roof doing that once. I was young then, and the ground soft lawn, so I didn't do any permanent damage but it sure spooked me. It was cedar shakes and once I started sliding there was literally no way to stop.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (39g3+)

553 I don't think we disrepecting his service. He didn't ask to be put in this position and we don't know his reasons for his behaviour. Just because he was a Ranger though doesn't make him right.
Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (UdKB7)

You said that better than I could have.

I feel sorry for him. I think he's going along to get along.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (Ri/rl)

554 Cardinals kneel 17, Cowboys don't 27.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (it+WZ)

555 544 Do the black players wish for a totalitarian state where they are rulers and whites are slaves? Is that what they really want? White slaves? Because that is sure what it seems like.
Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (aT+Bx)

Yes.

EVERY left-wing cohort's ultimate goal is Revenge.

Remember what Cultural Marxism states : "In every human interaction, there is a Victim and an Oppressor".

Every Left-Wing Cohort wants THEIR TURN to be the Oppressor.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (Vevy5)

556 I respectfully disagree, Ace. His walkback is dishonorable. And I am not thrilled about these guys playing the McCain card to get them off the hook.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (osHg+)

557

His service was absolutely denigrated

What a coward what happened

Bronze Stars must be easy to get

He was following orders, like in Me Lai

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (1LbB2)

558 Lotta internet tough guys today

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:39 PM
*******************

Yeah, it's surprising.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (XntMs)

559 Wow...what did they threaten him with? This is the saddest fucking moment of this whole mess.
Posted by: Gem
-------------

They 'explained' "Failure to communicate".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (w1zJX)

560 Villanueva's first instincts are still a positive development. No one will believe he voluntarily backtracked (even if he did) so it looks even worse for Pittsburgh and NFL.

Once again the left is going out of their way to attack the military, and that is always a good development. Even if this country is going down the road to civil war the majority of the military will never side with the left.

You cannot have your vision of a 1984 tyranny without the military firmly on your side.

Posted by: William Eaton at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (MuTTO)

561 Bless 'em All
(With apologies to the Guadacanal Marines):
They asked for the owners to censure the players
But Roger Goodell said no
He said there's a reason
It's now regular season
So hell let's get on with the show
(Chorus)
Fuck 'em all,
Fuck 'em all
The long and the short and the tall
Fuck all the fullbacks and fuck all the ends
Fuck all the coaches and ESPN
'Cause we're saying goodbye to them all
As back to their lockers they crawl
There'll be no endorsements
They need reinforcements
So cheer up my lads
Fuck 'em all

No

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (+sjew)

562 who plays for the Yankees?

Assholes?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (oVJmc)

563 so it's Trump ahanist everyone else.

haha shit. Poor sucker trying to fight for us

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (FKrah)

564
Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Uganda..well maybe not but at least in those countries they wouldn't have to suffer under whitey
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (auHtY)

__

In Zimbabwe everyone is a trillionaire.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (vyHiq)

565 'So how does protesting "America" at a football game relate at all to "injustices" committed by individualized in localized areas?'

I've been wondering myself what is all this supposed to do anyway? None of this fuss is going to fix the problems they proclaim.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (UdKB7)

566 552
I cleaned the gutters this weekend.

I got smart and installed gutter guards.

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (it+WZ)

567 But since the 80s/90s, it's been slowly fading away to niche sport status.

Its more popular now than it was in the 90s, so its not fading away. Its just not covered as much as football. Maybe with the NFL being downplayed it may gain more attention again.

I agree that baseball is more rural and pastoral, its played at a more gentle, thoughtful rate than sudden explosions of violent action. Its more thoughtful than frenetic running and crashing into each other. That doesn't play as well to a lot of people as other games. But its still very American.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:54 PM (39g3+)

568
In what other country would these ass cunts be millionaires?

Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Uganda..well maybe not but at least in those countries they wouldn't have to suffer under whitey

Lot of millionaires in Zimbabwe.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 07:54 PM (IqV8l)

569 I missed the Me Lai comparison ThunderB keeps bringing up. Who said that?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:54 PM (LuKE7)

570 This is just another sad chapter on the road to Gomorrah.

That is up to us. To the people in this country. One person does not make that decision. I do not expect one person to take on the whole fuckin' country when he is not even getting proper info.

PDT is the Prez, and he can't take on the whole country either.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (7TeYi)

571 "We would have stood with Him."

You can't stand with him while he's on the field.
You can't stand with him while he's not with his wife and children.

He works with thugs who are supported by rich elites.
He'll be lucky to make it through the season.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (XntMs)

572 >>In Zimbabwe everyone is a trillionaire.

I got an email form one of them today. He's also a prince!

All I have to do is send him $4000 to help him get some of his cash out of the country and he is going to make me rich!

I'm talking Scrooge McDuck money.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (/tuJf)

573 EVERY left-wing cohort's ultimate goal is Revenge.

Remember what Cultural Marxism states : "In every human interaction, there is a Victim and an Oppressor".

Every Left-Wing Cohort wants THEIR TURN to be the Oppressor.

Posted by: Hikaru
---

I was hoping I was wrong.

I know that right now, it's Western Europe's turn to be Islam's bitches, and they're doing so willing.

However, many of those nations don't have the same availability of weapons that we do here.

For the record, I'm not going to be the bitch of any SJW, no matter what their race or religion.

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (aT+Bx)

574 OK thunderb anyone who said that kind of stuff is out of line.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (UdKB7)

575 555 544 Do the black players wish for a totalitarian state where they are rulers and whites are slaves? Is that what they really want? White slaves? Because that is sure what it seems like.
Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (aT+Bx)

Yes.

EVERY left-wing cohort's ultimate goal is Revenge.

Remember what Cultural Marxism states : "In every human interaction, there is a Victim and an Oppressor".

Every Left-Wing Cohort wants THEIR TURN to be the Oppressor.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (Ve

In the grand scheme of things, the Left does not want "equality" or "justice" as we understand the words. They want RETRIBUTION for all eternity, with their hand holding the whip and the leash.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (mbhDw)

576 574 OK thunderb anyone who said that kind of stuff is out of line.
Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (UdKB7)

Who said it?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (LuKE7)

577 Every Left-Wing Cohort wants THEIR TURN to be the Oppressor.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (Vevy5)

They've already started oppressing any that disagrees with the current narrative. We all are Emanuel Goldenstein.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (Ri/rl)

578
Still not getting why the black players are protesting equality, was it because obama treated them all like pariahs?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (r+sAi)

579 571 571 "We would have stood with Him."

You can't stand with him while he's on the field.
You can't stand with him while he's not with his wife and children.

He works with thugs who are supported by rich elites.
He'll be lucky to make it through the season.
Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (XntMs)

If he's not benched (or outright released), he's not making it through the season without a broken leg (at best) or a broken neck (at worst).

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (Vevy5)

580 Quite the turn around from his comment yesterday. Of course he was forced to say this, but I guess I expected more of a former officer.

Posted by: gyciny at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (0P4bz)

581 'I cleaned the gutters this weekend.

I got smart and installed gutter guards.'

I got gutter guards and now I have to clean the gutter guards.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (UdKB7)

582 572 >>In Zimbabwe everyone is a trillionaire.

I got an email form one of them today. He's also a prince!

All I have to do is send him $4000 to help him get some of his cash out of the country and he is going to make me rich!

I'm talking Scrooge McDuck money.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (/tuJf)

The $4000US sent via Western Union is to cover all modalities.

Remain blessed, dear one.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (mbhDw)

583 537 & 545: i didn't say lebron was profound or deep and didn't mean it that way. he is thoughtful. serious but superficial and here, actually right in perceiving that the real issues for them are egalitarian. multi=millionaie athletes, united in their blackness, but actually kneeling to a left=wing cause that is using them.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (AxFdW)

584 This shit started with a failed QB grasping at straws.

Posted by: davidt at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (BFYeS)

585 In the grand scheme of things, the Left does not want "equality" or
"justice" as we understand the words. They want RETRIBUTION for all
eternity, with their hand holding the whip and the leash.

---

Agreed.

However, we have the guns. And many have training in the military.

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (aT+Bx)

586 To repeat what I pointed out earlier, the cast of the new Star Trek show "took a knee" for a publicity photo today. Because their show doesn't suck enough.

I hope CBS goes out of business.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (39g3+)

587 465

Subhuman taxpayer

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (1LbB2)

588 479 black guys were shot while in the process of committing a felony. 1 guy was shot for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. INJUSTICE

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (hcB66)

589 "ts more popular now than it was in the 90s, so its not fading away. Its just not covered as much as football. Maybe with the NFL being downplayed it may gain more attention again. "

Judging by the fact the playoffs are only on cable, I'd say that's not very popular. I think it's become like hockey, few fans but very dedicated fans. And I think that's what BLMFL will become as well.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (vyHiq)

590 Reading some of the comments. *facepalm*

People are really missing the forest for the trees.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (7TeYi)

591 575 In the grand scheme of things, the Left does not want "equality" or "justice" as we understand the words. They want RETRIBUTION for all eternity, with their hand holding the whip and the leash.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (mbhDw)

To the Left, "equality" means "It is generally accepted that you Oppressed us for at least 200 years. This means we have to get our turn to oppress you for at least 200 years (but actually forever)."

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (Vevy5)

592 He is in over his head. The thing we should do is be his back-up. Double down. Not be the rubes the NFL thinks we are.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 07:36 PM (7TeYi)

Hear hear.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (Ri/rl)

593 I dunno Gnewt. If I found my job totally unalined in such a huge way with My morals, I'd walk.

Being broked hurts me no less than He, and He would have people finding Him work. unlike the rest of us .

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (FKrah)

594

I've been wondering myself what is all this supposed to do anyway? None of this fuss is going to fix the problems they proclaim.

When does the Left ever worry about solving problems?

They practice Critical Theory, which is entirely about destruction of what exists.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (oVJmc)

595 OK thunderb anyone who said that kind of stuff is out of line.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (UdKB7)

ThunderB is the one that keeps saying it. He's ham-handedly trying to make some kind of strawman point.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (T71PA)

596 579 Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (Vevy5)

If the NFL collectively, pressured by the Left or not, is hell bent on getting Kaepernick a starting slot somewhere, getting Villanueva benched or clipped is small potatoes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (mbhDw)

597

I think anyone paying attention will see he was forced to do that

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (1LbB2)

598 With LeBron it's easy.
Trump said X, therefore he will be anti-X, because he knows his millions of worshipers are anti-Trump. Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (vyHiq)

599 For the record, I'm not going to be the bitch of any SJW, no matter what their race or religion.

You'd do it for Randolph Scott

♬ angelic chorus ♬
RAAANNNDOLPH SCOTTTTT!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (39g3+)

600 579 571 571 "We would have stood with Him."

You can't stand with him while he's on the field.
You can't stand with him while he's not with his wife and children.

He works with thugs who are supported by rich elites.
He'll be lucky to make it through the season.
Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (XntMs)

If he's not benched (or outright released), he's not making it through the season without a broken leg (at best) or a broken neck (at worst).
Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (Vevy5)

That's bullshit. As I said, based on his background his teammates and others players in the league would give him a pass. If they didn't, they had no respect or love for him in the first place.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (LuKE7)

601 586 To repeat what I pointed out earlier, the cast of the new Star Trek show "took a knee" for a publicity photo today. Because their show doesn't suck enough.

I hope CBS goes out of business.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (39g3+)

Ironic that the Paley family made its money in... cigars.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (mbhDw)

602 "We still have no clue of what being born white means."

It means you are a human being born with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, nothing more, nothing less.

If YOU feel that YOU owe someone else something then YOU do something about it.

If YOU feel I owe someone something else then you can go to hell. If YOU think I need to do something about YOU think I owe, you can go to hell TWICE.

I wish I could boycott basketball more that I already am. I suppose I could research the companies that advertise on basketball telecasts and boycott them. Perhaps I could recommend you sign Latrell Sprewell. I understand he is a real coaches player.

Posted by: Hank Johnson, Super-Genius at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (3acYM)

603 Yea 20 million dollars will make you think.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (UdKB7)

604

465. Subhuman taxpayer

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (1LbB2)

605 586 To repeat what I pointed out earlier, the cast of the new Star Trek show "took a knee" for a publicity photo today. Because their show doesn't suck enough.

I hope CBS goes out of business.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (39g3+)

Not surprised b/c I read some of their interviews. I posted on some of the threads but no longer have the links. Knew I could not watch. I want this Star Trek to die, b/c they will hijack it for SJW movement.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (7TeYi)

606 ThunderB is the one that keeps saying it. He's ham-handedly trying to make some kind of strawman point.
==

Well he's a girl, so...

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (2wRtc)

607 @527: "If you think George Will came up with that or is the only human
being that realizes its validity, you're ignorant of 150 years of US
history. Baseball IS America. Its the American passtime, its part of
the "American as..." statements for 100 years. Its what pulled us all
together at the darkest times in our past. It was the common theme that
helped soldiers in combat stay sane and recognize each other: who plays
for the Yankees?
"

WAS, and even then only in Norman Rockwellistan, now Lee Greenwoodistan. You like baseball, fine. But it isn't "America" and hasn't been for a long time. And if you're going to rely on WWII exchanges, Betty Grable was far more America than baseball.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (rznWS)

608 He just made Tomlin, and the NFL look worse than it possibly could have hours earlier.

Who knows, maybe he's playing 12-D chess.

Posted by: realityman at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (Ch0fq)

609 596 If the NFL collectively, pressured by the Left or not, is hell bent on getting Kaepernick a starting slot somewhere, getting Villanueva benched or clipped is small potatoes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (mbhDw)

Every Mob has to have somebody whacked every now and then, just to keep the rest of the goombahs honest.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (Vevy5)

610 I expect he was threatened physically by some of his teammates, who given the thuggish nature of some football players he might also have been worried about his family-if he has one. It's a disappointment but I can't really judge him because I don't know what I'd do in the circumstancse. I'd like too think Id do the right thing but who knows?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (iVOAv)

611 See comment 465 subhuman taxpayer

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 08:01 PM (1LbB2)

612 Judging by the fact the playoffs are only on cable, I'd say that's not very popular.

I'm judging by people in the stands and MLB channel/MLB.TV subs. Who broadcasts what where is in... whose hands again?

ThunderB is the one that keeps saying it. He's ham-handedly trying to make some kind of strawman point.

First of all: she

Second of all: all those are quotes or restatements of things people have said above in the thread about the guy.

I get being frustrated with him and disappointed but dial back the frothing outrage a bit huh?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:02 PM (39g3+)

613 582

C'mon now, everyone knows those Zimbabweans are no account bums. Nigeria is where it's at.

Posted by: Nigerian Prince at September 25, 2017 08:02 PM (H5knJ)

614 Well he's a girl, so...
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (2wRtc)

Sorry. Excuse me ma'am.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 25, 2017 08:02 PM (T71PA)

615
Not surprised b/c I read some of their interviews. I posted on some of the threads but no longer have the links. Knew I could not watch. I want this Star Trek to die, b/c they will hijack it for SJW movement.

I stole a copy.

It's dull.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 08:02 PM (oVJmc)

616 at least all the whores are well paid.

that makes up for everything. they are little g-ds with no consequence.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:02 PM (FKrah)

617
I understand the purpose of these protest are because protest!.... but really I want them to do one of those college student letters that say their demands of what they want to happen. That would be a hoot.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (r+sAi)

618 You like baseball, fine. But it isn't "America" and hasn't been for a long time.

I get it, you don't like baseball.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (39g3+)

619 ... here's a variant on what a lot of people have observed: these multi-millionaire athletes don't live in the hood. they live in luxe suburbs as far away as possible. but we, and they, send the police into those neighborhoods left behind to protect the lives and property of those who can't afford to leave. that's where the violence and shootings and police shootings occur, amidst the poverty they left.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (AxFdW)

620 600 That's bullshit. As I said, based on his background his teammates and others players in the league would give him a pass. If they didn't, they had no respect or love for him in the first place.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (LuKE7)

You have more faith in a league that's hell-bent on making Krapperdick into a martyr than I do, then.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (Vevy5)

621 hahaha weird just Trump and us typing monkeys .

this is gonna work

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (FKrah)

622 567
Its more popular now than it was in the 90s, so its not fading away. Its just not covered as much as football. Maybe with the NFL being downplayed it may gain more attention again.

I agree that baseball is more rural and pastoral, its played at a more gentle, thoughtful rate than sudden explosions of violent action. Its more thoughtful than frenetic running and crashing into each other. That doesn't play as well to a lot of people as other games. But its still very American.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 07:54 PM (39g3+)

Baseball was America's sport when America was at its zenith.

Football took over in the late 60s, about the same time the counterculture came along.

I'm not equating football with the 60s counterculture, but it's kind of interesting that they ascended to prominence at the same time.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (sdi6R)

623 613 582

C'mon now, everyone knows those Zimbabweans are no account bums. Nigeria is where it's at.
Posted by: Nigerian Prince at September 25, 2017 08:02 PM (H5knJ)

"Pfft. And remain blessed."

- - Mugu 401 Scammer in Accra, Ghana

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (mbhDw)

624 Hes a failed human being in fear of financial ruin, physical injury, and social scorn who also has displayed acts of heroism in defense of his comrades and his country

Lets drag him

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (1LbB2)

625 610 I expect he was threatened physically by some of his teammates, who given the thuggish nature of some football players he might also have been worried about his family-if he has one. It's a disappointment but I can't really judge him because I don't know what I'd do in the circumstancse. I'd like too think Id do the right thing but who knows?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (iVOAv)

I agree Fenelon. I'd like to think I'd stand on principle but I may have done the same thing.
It's obvious someone forced him to make that statement.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 08:05 PM (Ri/rl)

626 >>He just made Tomlin, and the NFL look worse than it possibly could have hours earlier.

>>Who knows, maybe he's playing 12-D chess.

I don't think it's all that complicated. He made a statement by coming out and standing and saluting the flag. He has not apologized for that.

What he apologized for was that he made his teammates look bad in contrast even if by accident. I don't think that is dishonorable feeling, quite the contrary, I think that is honorable. That is kind of the entire point of being a teammate.

He got tossed into a bad spot, no matter what he did he was going to get criticized. I can respect his decision to salute the flag and give him a pass for feeling bad that he made his teammates look small.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:05 PM (/tuJf)

627 I've heard mixed reviews, some of them pretty savage (full of foolish inconsistencies and contrivance, dull characters) others somewhat positive. The most positive so far: 6 out of 10. Not exactly glowing.

CBS is counting on this show to be their flagship to launch and backbone their subscription streaming content platform but it cost them so much per episode there's no way in hell they're going to be able to keep it up. Expect huge budget cuts if it makes it to season 2. People aren't gonna sign up to watch a meh Star Trek. Torrent, maybe.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (39g3+)

628 620 600 That's bullshit. As I said, based on his background his teammates and others players in the league would give him a pass. If they didn't, they had no respect or love for him in the first place.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (LuKE7)

You have more faith in a league that's hell-bent on making Krapperdick into a martyr than I do, then.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (Vevy5)

If this really is about freedom of expression of the players, then the other 99.99% of the Steelers would have collectively announced their love and support of Villanueva and his right to express his opinion as he wanted to.

That's not exactly what happened. QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (mbhDw)

629 Villanueva proves that the league and the teams can stop behavior they actually want to stop.

And they aren't worried about 'free speech' or 'divisiveness' when they do it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (oVJmc)

630 I don't know his much money AV has right now but I bet I could have a nice retirement on whatever it is. He could too. He could just say "Fk this sh!t" and be done with it. He's a smart ambitious guy he could find something else to do or just enjoy the rest of his life with what he has.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (UdKB7)

631 ThunderB I See your point , But isn't this just a repeat over and over again By those We used to Respect?
It's exhausting .
always a pension or money preventing someone from doing the right thing nowdays.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (FKrah)

632 624 Hes a failed human being in fear of financial ruin, physical injury, and social scorn who also has displayed acts of heroism in defense of his comrades and his country

Lets drag him
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (1LbB2)

I'm sick of you , your accusations and your half incoherent sentences .

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (LuKE7)

633 This is the Villanueva dilemma:

There's a tape floating around somewhere, from the 1970's, a Russian guy explaining that not only does communism control your life and what you are and are not allowed to do/say/think, they also force you to LIE. They make you go out in public and tell lies. And they laugh about it behind your back, because everybody knows you are lying and that you are not able to tell the truth, even though everybody knows it.

And that's one of the ways they destroy people's souls.

Posted by: Boots at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (EBwPV)

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (XntMs)

634 625 Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 08:05 PM (Ri/rl)

Aaron Hernandez. And he killed because he was a drug-dealing gang-banger.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (mbhDw)

635 ... "the left does;t want equality, it's revenge".... and power. the banner is equality but the goal is power. just power for its own sake.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (AxFdW)

636 I'm not equating football with the 60s counterculture, but it's kind of interesting that they ascended to prominence at the same time.

I'm tempted to say leftists hating baseball but its honestly this: Baseball is better in person and on radio, football is better on TV. TV became the big thing, so up goes football. Who knows what happens next?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (39g3+)

637 ... i'm all over the place. ciao.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (AxFdW)

638 Jackstraw because His teammates are small.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (FKrah)

639 I called Comcast last night to cancel the sports package as I no longer have interest in NFL Redzone. They tried to tell me that it was part of my cable package and was "free". I told them I would cancel the whole package and cut the cable. They said they would call me back...

Posted by: MallardDuckLintBrush at September 25, 2017 08:08 PM (qCVHL)

640 >>Jackstraw because His teammates are small.

No doubt.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:08 PM (/tuJf)

641 Villanueva proves that the league and the teams can stop behavior they actually want to stop.

And they aren't worried about 'free speech' or 'divisiveness' when they do it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (oVJmc)

Funny how the Steelers most likely jumped on him for standing for the flag but they support the assholes for shitting on it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 08:08 PM (auHtY)

642 hahaha weird just Trump and us typing monkeys .

this is gonna work
Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (FKrah)

It might. I'm not even a watcher of football and this boycott the anthem annoys me. If I feel that way imagine how many other people do.

And I continue to pray for President Trump-for his safety and that of his family and wisdom from above and confusion and loss to the deep state.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:09 PM (iVOAv)

643 Villanueva is toast, the apology proves that he knows it. He put a target on his back, and apologies are pointless now. Worth a try, I suppose. But an ocean of 300 pound violent morons are now going to compete to be the one who ended the rayciss' career.

Posted by: Monty James at September 25, 2017 08:09 PM (gKOMX)

644 I'm really hoping the Monday night numbers are down bigly

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 08:09 PM (auHtY)

645 speech is obviously not Free.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:09 PM (FKrah)

646 This is the Villanueva dilemma:

There's a tape floating around somewhere, from the 1970's, a Russian guy explaining that not only does communism control your life and what you are and are not allowed to do/say/think, they also force you to LIE. They make you go out in public and tell lies. And they laugh about it behind your back, because everybody knows you are lying and that you are not able to tell the truth, even though everybody knows it.

And that's one of the ways they destroy people's souls.

Posted by: Boots at September 25, 2017 06:57 PM (EBwPV)

Human beings are social animals. We need to be accepted by and protected by a family, peer group etc. Ostracism is a powerful weapon, especially with someone like Villanueva where it was particularly crucial as part of a military unit. IF this is the case, I can understand how could be pressured. I would have preferred he didn't.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (mbhDw)

647 Villanueva proves that the league and the teams can stop behavior they actually want to stop.

Exactly, this is the main point of all the events. This is at the core of it. They CAN stop this, but choose not to. They choose instead to punish the very ones opposed to it. The NFL even leaned on the Seahawks for not taking the field last night.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (39g3+)

648 @618: "I get it, you don't like baseball."

Baseball is fine. I enjoyed playing it as kid, and I still like going to the park now and again. It is, however, just a game - nothing more, nothing less. It's not a romantic metaphor on a diamond, if it ever was, and that's not even counting stuff like fixed games and steroidball.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (rznWS)

649 Fenelon, nah I'm not feeling it. We don't have enough people in powerful positions that don't fall down an potty their pants if their funds are threatened

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (FKrah)

650 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (mbhDw)

Well said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (iVOAv)

651 641
Funny how the Steelers most likely jumped on him for standing for the flag but they support the assholes for shitting on it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 08:08 PM (auHtY)

And then there's Michael Vick.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (mbhDw)

652 I don't blame the guy. I don't know if I could take it. The coach, half the team, the other teams, the sportswriters, the interweb mobs, Black Lives Murders--Hell, CNN incited the murders of cops and got away with it. There are lots of ways to coerce.

At bottom, this is Obama, Holder, Sharpton and CNN. You can't put a Communist stooge in power for eight long years without some shaking from the damage. Ask Venezuela. Hussein and his Democrats are the Projectile Vomit of the Body Politic.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (Ndje9)

653 There is no honor anymore... Makes me sick

Posted by: It's me donna at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (O2RFr)

654 'Funny how the Steelers most likely jumped on him for standing for the flag but they support the assholes for shitting on it'

That's what I mean. Why would you want to keep playing for them? Take whatever money you got out of it and do something else. I wouldn't want to work for someone who hates me and I hate back.

Posted by: freaked at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (UdKB7)

655 @620: " a league that's hell-bent on making Krapperdick into a martyr"

To make him a martyr, the NFL would have to kill him. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (rznWS)

656 Villanueva is toast, the apology proves that he knows it. He put a target on his back, and apologies are pointless now.
==

He should have let them fire him. With his head held high.

And then sued there asses off.

Too late.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (2wRtc)

657 Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (Farah)

You don't have to feel it, dear. Just keep raising your voice.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (iVOAv)

658 ok, Villanueva made me proud for a moment. too bad.

anyway i'm out. have a blast peoples.

Posted by: willow at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (FKrah)

659 Yeah I'm reading that Red Zone subscriptions are taking a bath. Here, and elsewhere, on social media. Not sure how accurate that is, we won't know for a couple months when the quarterlies come out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (39g3+)

660 Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:05 PM (/tuJf)

That's not how I read his latest statement which is totally opposite of his initial statement. It's done and it makes no difference what the true story is at this point.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (LuKE7)

661 Aaron Hernandez. And he killed because he was a drug-dealing gang-banger.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (mbhDw)

We don't know who pressured him and how they did, but it's obvious someone did.

I'm sure a lot of those players are thugs.

He may just want to keep his job.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (Ri/rl)

662 He ended up making true Patriots who praised him look like idiots... I hope it was worth it...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (O2RFr)

663 I guess we'll find out for sure about him next game.

Posted by: davidt at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (BFYeS)

664 Why would you want to keep playing for them? Take whatever money you got out of it and do something else.

Yeah I'd be looking at that seriously. Probably he loves playing, and he did sign a contract so he feels honor bound to keep going out there, and he probably feels some connection to the team and wants to be a part of it. But still: I'd be looking for an exit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (39g3+)

665 @634: "Aaron Hernandez. And he killed because he was a drug-dealing gang-banger."

But look on the bright side: with him, a Florida Gator finally got his First Degree.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (rznWS)

666 636
I'm tempted to say leftists hating baseball but its honestly this: Baseball is better in person and on radio, football is better on TV. TV became the big thing, so up goes football. Who knows what happens next?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (39g3+)

I think you're right. If you look at game times, they were about 1.5-2 hours in the early 20th century, and have steadily increased since then, mostly after television came along. Today it's not unusual for a 9-inning postseason game to go 4 hours. No wonder people think it's boring. And of course children can't stay up to watch them on school nights.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (sdi6R)

667 NFL/Tomlin couldn't possibly believe anyone would take this recantation as being action freely performed by Villanueva.

So they must have intended the statement as a message to fans, humiliating Villanueva by using him as a mouthpiece. "This is our official team policy. We will be forcing all team members to conform and not allow them to stand for the anthem as we used to".

So they are sticking to their guns, and informing fans of this by breaking the one guy who believed as they do, and forced a public recantation. It's just more contempt directed towards Steelers fans, and will just alienate more.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 08:15 PM (/qEW2)

668
Lets drag him
Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM

Across the finish line?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:15 PM (IqV8l)

669 That's bullshit. As I said, based on his background his teammates and others players in the league would give him a pass...
*********************

Thugs don't give passes.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (XntMs)

670 626 - Thing is, he did not make his teammates look bad; they did that all on their own.

If you believe that V. made his teammates look bad, then you are effectively saying that the virtuous always owe the their less virtuous fellows an apology for making them look bad.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (H5knJ)

671 Football took over in the late 60s, about the same time the counterculture came along.

This is a joke, right? Were you alive in those days?
You couldn't walk past a football stadium if you had sideburns.
No music except Sousa marches was played at football games.
Football fans would get together and kick your ass for playing rock and roll on your car radio.
Coach would send his private gang after the kid who wasn't getting haircuts.

Oh, it was glorious.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 25, 2017 08:17 PM (H5rtT)

672 >>That's not how I read his latest statement which is totally opposite of his initial statement. It's done and it makes no difference what the true story is at this point.

It's how I read it. And of course it matters, this didn't end today.

We'll see how this plays out but I don't see a kid who grew up on military bases, who went to West Point and as we all know served heroically in Afghanistan as I guy without honor. Honor is more than just saluting the flag, it's about respecting your teammates and earning their respect. That seems to be in his DNA.

I disagree that he is now a target and I don't think his job is in any danger. He's a left tackle, one of the highest paid and hardest to find positions in pro football. I bet his teammates and others treat him with respect and so does the rest of the league.

Colin Kaepernick he ain't. He can play and he is definitely a guy with honor.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (/tuJf)

673 'Pushed to my limit': Stadium worker quits after Bills protest anthem

A stadium worker with nearly three decades of NFL games under his belt quit his job Sunday, saying he was "pushed" to the limit after several Buffalo Bills took a knee during the national anthem.

He's got more integrity than the whole league

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (auHtY)

674 Everything NFL is out with the garbage in the morning. I hope the suckers who bought the Villenueva shit can retun it

Posted by: CN at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (5gaNQ)

675 670
If you believe that V. made his teammates look bad, then you are effectively saying that the virtuous always owe the their less virtuous fellows an apology for making them look bad.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (H5knJ)

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

*cracks knuckles*

Posted by: A union thug at September 25, 2017 08:19 PM (sdi6R)

676 I think you're right. If you look at game times, they were about 1.5-2 hours in the early 20th century, and have steadily increased since then, mostly after television came along.
***************************

Very interesting fact. They chop football up to fit commercials and they drag baseball out.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 08:19 PM (XntMs)

677 Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (/tuJf)

Disagree. The issue goes on but Villanueva will be forgotten in a week.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 08:20 PM (LuKE7)

678 I just wonder how many people vowing to give up football will be sneaking the Monday night game in anyway tomorrow.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:21 PM (39g3+)

679 They chop football up to fit commercials and they drag baseball out.

Well, football is a short game turned into hours of marathon noise and spectacle by TV as well. Its just that people who complain about how long baseball is don't care about how long football is because NOISE! SPECTACLE!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:22 PM (39g3+)

680
I get being frustrated with him and disappointed but dial back the frothing outrage a bit huh?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:02 PM

But repeating that nonsense (that everyone knows is nonsense) incessantly to make some BS "arguments" is fine, huh?

Posted by: Wahshiya at September 25, 2017 08:22 PM (S3dtp)

681 And as we all know, everyone who graduates from a military academy is honorable.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:23 PM (2wRtc)

682 This is so disappointing.

I agree, I figure it is a result of them having reamed him a new one.

Posted by: Alana at September 25, 2017 08:23 PM (skfGM)

683 >>Disagree. The issue goes on but Villanueva will be forgotten in a week.

That's what I'm saying. Because he won't be a target and he will go back to the relative anonymity of your basic NFL lineman.

Starting NFL lineman. And Colin Kaepernick, the assclown who started all this crap by saying he was indeed protesting both the flag and the anthem, will still be out of work.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:24 PM (/tuJf)

684 655 To make him a martyr, the NFL would have to kill him. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (rznWS)

And people wonder why I want to identify with the white side of my family instead of the black side (but yeah, One Drop).

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 08:25 PM (Vevy5)

685 Steeler's October 8th game at home against the Jaguars should be really ... interesting. At least until kick-off.

Posted by: Zon Toro at September 25, 2017 08:26 PM (V0pGL)

686 I remember the reaction when Trump insulted McCain.

Yet we have a thread wishing cancer on him.

Somebody needs to give me a copy of these "special standards for special people" so that I can follow them more closely.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:27 PM (2wRtc)

687 I don't think it's all that complicated. He made a statement by coming out and standing and saluting the flag. He has not apologized for that.

What he apologized for was that he made his teammates look bad in contrast even if by accident. I don't think that is dishonorable feeling, quite the contrary, I think that is honorable. That is kind of the entire point of being a teammate.

He got tossed into a bad spot, no matter what he did he was going to get criticized. I can respect his decision to salute the flag and give him a pass for feeling bad that he made his teammates look small.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:05 PM (/tuJf)

Actually, now that I think about it...the only way he could have made his teammates look 'bad' or 'small' is if the assumption is what they did was wrong, right?

Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 08:28 PM (Enq6K)

688 Linking arms for the Star Spangled Banner. I expected better of the Cowboys. That linked arms bullshit is an attempt to have it both ways--to avoid the reaction to taking a knee, but simultaneously show that they're down with the protest.

This isn't hard. Stand up straight, hand over your heart.

Posted by: Monty James at September 25, 2017 08:28 PM (gKOMX)

689 676
Very interesting fact. They chop football up to fit commercials and they drag baseball out.
Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 08:19 PM (XntMs)

As I understand it, in the old days before TV, when the teams switched sides between innings, there wasn't much of a delay. The defensive team ran back to the dugout, the other team ran out to take their positions, and the batter stepped in.

There was a natural break between innings, but it didn't take any longer than physically necessary.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 08:28 PM (sdi6R)

690 Sorry Tami.

He's now saying it was all a big "mistake". He had no
intention of coming out and didn't realize he was outside of the tunnel
until it was too late.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (2wRtc)

691 hmmm...a "culture" that produced Jerry Sandusky and his Chief Enabler St. Joe Paterno, high school initiation rites that include anal rape, the Baylor scandal...Mr. "Fuck Her Right in the Pussy" Shitface Winston...Ben Rapistberger...League executives hiding concussion reports and egregious violence against women-----you're telling me this CULTURE's adherents forced a hostage confession out of an honorable war veteran? *The Fvck you say!"

Posted by: kallisto at September 25, 2017 08:30 PM (AAbgH)

692 Why do we continue with this charade? We are no longer a "United" States when half the people hate the other half and declare themselves no longer bound to the country by patriotism, culture or law. The US is a nation of 330 million people, the third most populous in the world. Splitting it in half would leave the resulting two countries 4th and 5th most populous and still the most prosperous. If we don't split amicably, one or the other factions will have to dominate, and the result will be either war or tyranny.

Posted by: Jeff Powell at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (y5/+7)

693 >>Actually, now that I think about it...the only way he could have made his teammates look 'bad' or 'small' is if the assumption is what they did was wrong, right?

Well, yea. The fact that a relatively anonymous left tackle had his jersey become the number 1 selling item in the NFL merchandise catalog, not Brady or OBJ or any other "star" would seem to indicate that.

Fanatical NFL fans speak with their money. I don't think that's being lost on too many NFL executives today.

I'm stocking up on popcorn. The left wanted a fight on this issue. Ok then, game on.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (/tuJf)

694

I get being disappointed. But some people are addicted to rage

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (1LbB2)

695 Wow, even the Cowboys did the linked arms thing? WTF?

And WTF is that supposed to be about, anyway?

Only time will tell, but I'm thinking nothing much worse could happen to the NFL (i.e., be *done* by the NFL).

The Steelers as case in point. Now they've pretty much doubled down on not doing the normal respectful thing for the anthem that has been normal and respectful for the entire lives of every human watching them.

In Pittsburgh? Cannot see how this is going to work out well for the team.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (QDnY+)

696 He ended up making true Patriots who praised him look like idiots... I hope it was worth it...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (O2RFr)

Yep.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (8gDQu)

697 @681 as we all know, everyone who graduates from a military academy is honorable.

Posted by: Mortimer

Well. This Day has come Full Circle. To wit?

Villanueva paid his education back by serving in the
US Army in both the 10th Mountain Division and the 1st Ranger Batallion
with 3 deployments to Afghanistan. So Fuck You! He didn't get
"taxpayer money"

Posted by: Timon at September 25, 2017 09:31 AM

And when I strenuously objected to this Fuck Me aimed at my obvious sarc?
VIA told me to switch to de-caf.

So, fuck me, fuck you, fuck us all. And fuck your honor too. I guess.
Lots of heads up lots of asses.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (H5rtT)

698 Leaving the degrading and depressing aspects of this aside, too bad V. didn't at least get some advice on how to handle his "hostage video" moment. Could have easily kept it even more neutral, slippery, and still "answered the mail".

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (QDnY+)

699 So is every team going to go through this pretzel twisting before every game until Feb.?

Gonna be a loooooong season.

Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (Enq6K)

700 Wow, even the Cowboys did the linked arms thing? WTF?

And WTF is that supposed to be about, anyway?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (QDnY+)

They are just looking to do anything BUT stand respectfully for the national anthem.

They're all useless lowlifes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 08:37 PM (8gDQu)

701 Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:24 PM (/tuJf)

Wait a minute . Strike that . Reverse it. I agree.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (LuKE7)

702 Linking arms with teammates is faggier than the Crystal Light Dancers...

Posted by: It smells in here... at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (7DG+y)

703 Someone in the next booth just ordered an NFL sandwich: it's two slices of Corruption encasing a cocksucker filling. Served with a generous side of barely concealed homoeroticism.**Breakfast of CHAMPEENS baby!**

Posted by: kallisto at the corner deli at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (AAbgH)

704 I'm a Mike Tomlin fan but this whole thing is on him. A half-assed attempt to avoid conflict and this is what you get.

Posted by: SillyBoy at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (Q3oNv)

705 Well, Jerry Jones and the cowgirls also candy together. That was a close one, I almost thought the cowgirls were going to be Honorable Men. It's nice to know that I can count on some things in this crazy world.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (nWmg2)

706 702 . I was so hoping for high kicks.

Posted by: kallisto at the corner deli at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (AAbgH)

707 704 - It's what happens when a coach is a weakling.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 25, 2017 08:43 PM (H5knJ)

708 Leaving the degrading and depressing aspects of this aside, too bad V. didn't at least get some advice on how to handle his "hostage video" moment. Could have easily kept it even more neutral, slippery, and still "answered the mail".

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (QDnY+)
**********************

His first recantation was not good enough to suite the SJWs and their masters.

Posted by: gNewt at September 25, 2017 08:43 PM (XntMs)

709 remember, to the mike florio's of the world, trump really stepped in it with his "obscene" tweets about hte NFL and they're all rallying around to show that they're not SOB's and that anti-football player statements like his, completely without reason, is not who we are.

The NFL thinks the players and owners are sympathetic creatures. and besides, the pink nfl shit next month is going to bring in new, better fans who GET the nfl, who really feel that repeating BLM lies about how peaceful minorities in America...NO THE WORLD... are being hunted down and murdered for sport. Especially, the ones who were born out of wedlock and adopted by nice white christian couples.

So, Villaneuseasvea, had to apologize, see? Otherwise, the mean anti-NFL and and anti-player person wins.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 25, 2017 08:44 PM (XhN8Z)

710 The linked arms thing isn't going to fly either.

Posted by: GOPeeeeee at September 25, 2017 08:44 PM (3myMJ)

711 Villanueva paid his education back by serving in the

US Army in both the 10th Mountain Division and the 1st Ranger Batallion

with 3 deployments to Afghanistan. So Fuck You! He didn't get
"taxpayer money"
===

So did John McCain.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:44 PM (2wRtc)

712 Jerry Jones takes knee and locks arms before anthem takes place...f*ck me...

Posted by: It smells in here... at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (7DG+y)

713
Wow

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (1LbB2)

714 WHAT!!!!!

Posted by: E.T. at September 25, 2017 08:47 PM (P1GJy)

715 How did the crowd react to this "display"?

Posted by: Meremortal, in the soup at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (3myMJ)

716 Wanting it both ways.....so much for americas team f them too.

Posted by: E.T. at September 25, 2017 08:50 PM (P1GJy)

717 ...no clue of what being born white means...

Well, these days, it means you get to be *disparaged* for your every thought, utterance, action, custom, history, appearance, education, position, living arrangements, possessions, hairstyle, clothing...

all with the approval of government *and* private institutions. Damn you if you complain, that just means they're correct to condemn you.

I say:

F*CK them ALL, and that Gregg Popovich dude in particular.

Posted by: JQ at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (yD/Pf)

718 His fuckin' jerseys will be going cheap on Ebay.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (398bZ)

719 So this fatass fuck at work asked me if my man watched the Iggles. "He's not much of a fan." Fatso says- "What is he, gay?" Oopsie...BUSTED! *Yes he's gay because he's not enthralled by the sight of grown boy mammals in Lycra/Spandex bumping booties on the manly gridiron. With the extra bonus of eyeballing the QB w/his hands up the center's ass every other play.*

Posted by: kallisto at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (AAbgH)

720 I've got to be reading this wrong...

Sports Illustrated
@SInow
The Cowboys and owner Jerry Jones locked arms and took a knee in unity prior to the national anthems wrong...

Posted by: It smells in here... at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (7DG+y)

721 715 How did the crowd react to this "display"?

Posted by: Meremortal, in the soup at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (3myMJ)

I watched the video http://tinyurl.com/y8fk37m4.

(The autoplay video at the beginning is not the video of the Cowboys. Stop the play on that one and scroll down for the Cowboys video)

Major booing.

Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 08:54 PM (Enq6K)

722 So, stepping back...what if yesterday didn't go down the way it did? What if AV hadn't come out & stood alone?

Would we be better off?

Or what if he had stuck by his guns today? Would we better off?

In the larger picture, I'm gonna go with No.

1) there would not have been an uproar at all w/o AV; just business as usual.

2) by a soldier with his creds stepping back today, he unmasked the duplicity, hypocrisy & craven nature of the NFL. And for me amplified how much free speech is under attack in this country. That scares me. It should galvanize all of us.

AV served as a wake-up call for those not paying attention. Both his act yesterday & today. I do not believe one or two people will get us out of this morass. This is a cultural dividing point. It is all hands on deck. It's a tipping point.

People finally woke up...I hope. AV was the sacrificial lamb.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 08:54 PM (7TeYi)

723 Jerry Jones really had an oppotunity to go for that"America's Team"thing he always wanted, but no dice.

Posted by: brak at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (5iU/N)

724 Must say that when I see a house with a Packers flag or Steelers or Browns etc. etc. all I see is someone who pathetically worships people who can do things that he can't do. What he should do is go out and do something that he can do and get off his fat ass. Pro sports is a stupid religion and the gods of that religion are a bunch of spoiled entitled dickheads. Other than that, Go Tide and Roll Bucks!!!

Posted by: Duncan MacCochanar at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (l6azh)

725 "The teams that had more players protesting were much more likely to perform poorly relative to the point spreads this past Thursday predicted."

-Crime Prevention Resource Center

(don't know the site, didn't click)

Posted by: Meremortal, in the soup at September 25, 2017 08:56 PM (3myMJ)

726 It would be nice to have a thread about something other than football. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 08:56 PM (sdi6R)

727 Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 08:54 PM (Enq6K)

Thanks! going to watch...

Posted by: Meremortal, in the soup at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (3myMJ)

728 Sure as sh*t...SI is tweeting Jones and Cowboys take knee and lock arms before anthem...

I'm speechless...

Posted by: It smells in here... at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (7DG+y)

729 It's a 19th century game that isn't suited for the 21st century.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (vyHiq)

No, it was at its zenith in the 1950's.

And actually, (this surprised me) it's not really a pastoral game either. Sure, kids played it in the country, but it really took off in the big cities, especially NYC, which in the 50's was the capital of baseball, with 4 mlb teams. When you look at a map of expansion teams, it's striking how mlb was mainly an East Coast thing for a long time, because until air travel, it was too difficult to travel out west for games. The Cards developed a huge fan base because they were the team farthest south and furthest west until the Giants and Dodgers moved.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: grab the Wild Card, Crew! at September 25, 2017 09:04 PM (P8951)

730 728 Sure as sh*t...SI is tweeting Jones and Cowboys take knee and lock arms before anthem...

I'm speechless...

Posted by: It smells in here... at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (7DG+y)

This is a big FU to people. To us serfs. Do we call their bluff or lay down & take it? What will Americans decide? Futility or hope? Action or Inaction?

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (7TeYi)

731 728 . No high kicks though? No spontaneous rendition of Grace Jones' "I Need A Man"??

Posted by: kallisto . (I am disappoint) at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (AAbgH)

732 Meh, I quit watching all but the Super Stupid Bowl a long time ago and really have no clue as to who's team is doing what standings wise.

Seeing the shitstorm President DJT raised is the best entertainment I've gotten from pro anything in decades and he's just yanking on their chains.

Personally I believe this is not going to end well, but that's been my position for a few years now. Something is going to give, and when it does the results will make our first intramural squabble look like a girlie tea party.

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at September 25, 2017 09:07 PM (4pjhs)

733 well actually McCain paid for his by being bayoneted in the balls and tortured for years in North Vietnam.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (2wRtc)

734 726, I agree. Done thinking about the poncey clowns in Spandex.

Posted by: kallisto . (I am disappoint) at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (AAbgH)

735 729
And actually, (this surprised me) it's not really a pastoral game either. Sure, kids played it in the country, but it really took off in the big cities, especially NYC, which in the 50's was the capital of baseball, with 4 mlb teams. When you look at a map of expansion teams, it's striking how mlb was mainly an East Coast thing for a long time, because until air travel, it was too difficult to travel out west for games. The Cards developed a huge fan base because they were the team farthest south and furthest west until the Giants and Dodgers moved.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: grab the Wild Card, Crew! at September 25, 2017 09:04 PM (P8951)

That's right. I have a couple of books about early baseball history, and it started in the Northeast cities in the 18th and 19th centuries.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 09:15 PM (sdi6R)

736 Jerry Jones takes a knee?!?! Let me join the chorus of fellow NFL drama queens in saying these MF are dead to me...

Posted by: It smells in here... at September 25, 2017 09:19 PM (7DG+y)

737 Cities went into debt paying for these stadiums.

In the words of G Gordon Liddy...ye suckers!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 25, 2017 09:20 PM (tvP0U)

738 Agreed about DJT being the best entertainment around...the great part is he's only just getting started...

Posted by: It smells in here... at September 25, 2017 09:24 PM (7DG+y)

739 Roger Goddell molests puppies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 25, 2017 09:47 PM (hyuyC)

740 "We?" Does he have a mouse in his pocket?

Posted by: Crimso at September 25, 2017 09:57 PM (uCLNU)

741 Feel free for o copy and paste to NFL.com comments:

I was a 13yr die-hard saints fan. No more. Your organization is spitting on the country that GAVE you the opportunity to become very wealthy. Not buying tickets to games or watching games anymore. I have begun to pressure other fans to do the same. I'm sorry you decided, as an entire institution, to make the unforced error of problem swing on your country. Enjoy the fallout. Even if your pocketbooks take a hit and you recant, I won't be back. I love America way more than arrogant, ignorant, ungrateful assholes.

Fuck you

Posted by: Lurker at September 25, 2017 10:23 PM (Ro67X)

742 If James Comey had a son, he would look just like Alejandro Villaneuva.

Posted by: Rich at September 25, 2017 11:28 PM (S8poq)

743 If a person cannot express his individual beliefs, then he or she has no individual rights. He or she must say and vote according to what a group has decided.

This is the opposite of free-thinking and freedom itseslf.

Country above politics. They are dragging us down to their level, you know.

Posted by: True the Note at September 26, 2017 12:24 AM (HLTe8)

744 I love my country, I love my anthem. You can all kiss my fine white ass.

Posted by: True the Note at September 26, 2017 12:25 AM (HLTe8)

745 I don't understand. I thought Jerry Jones said he wasn't going to put up with all this.

Posted by: Alana at September 26, 2017 12:46 AM (skfGM)

746 White privilege? Some of the most privileged individuals on the planet are professional athletes. They get perks and opportunities that the common man could never dream of. Then let's talk about they're two tiered justice system. Average Joe gets picked up for a DUI or domestic violence and gets jail time while the athletes get community service.

Posted by: Matt N Rittenhouse at September 26, 2017 04:27 AM (8TWrw)

747
"'We still have no clue of what being born white means.'"
Frequent sunburns. What else did you think it meant?

Posted by: Brett Bellmore at September 26, 2017 07:10 AM (xDkgh)

748 "I was trying to say an honorable man has been pressured by an organization which pays him -- and could cut him -- into apologizing for having honor."

Oh, Ace, as a high school football player, I can tell you getting cut is the LEAST of his worries. Do you have any idea of the number of ways you can cripple someone in practice or in the gym? And do you really think these Antifa-types wouldn't?

Posted by: SDN at September 26, 2017 08:04 AM (z3gg+)

749 "It would be nice to have a thread about something other than football. Just sayin'.
Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2017 08:56 PM (sdi6R)"

Oh, if you think this is only about football, you're dreaming.

Posted by: SDN at September 26, 2017 08:07 AM (z3gg+)

750 17 I feel bad for him. Army training makes you part of a team- he believes he inadvertently let his team down by making it look like he was taking a stand that he wasn't taking. I'm sure there were LOTS of guys on his team who wanted to be on the field standing for the anthem, but as a team they decided to do something else to respect the wishes of the teammates who wanted to take a knee.

Anyway, I disagree with the weird0 knee-takers, but I'll stand with the veteran and obviously have no reason to doubt his patriotism.
Posted by: LASue at September 25, 2017 06:47 PM (Mjus2)

As a 'team', those who wanted to be on the sidelines didn't have a say in the matter. They were simply outvoted and complied...or else.

There is no 'team' when it comes to showing disrespect.

Posted by: blindside1973 at September 26, 2017 08:34 AM (YntfT)

751 ace just doesn't get it. some people here can't cut the cord because Time Warner gives them a $10 a month discount on their internet.

Posted by: x at September 26, 2017 09:58 AM (nFwvY)

752 This has been a very sad week for true patriots and sports fans across the country. I very much disappointed in the NFL's show of unity this weekend. I believe it was the ultimate sign of disrespect to many hard working Americans. These are the Americans who have supported the NFL from the beginning. I have been a Bears fan for 47 years a�d have watched thousands of NFL games showing my support. I have watched my last NFL game. Don't get me wrong. Players must support "their organization". But not by insulting our country. In my opinion the NFL just drove a dagger into the soul of the USA. I believe the prosperity of our country is more important than the prosperity of a bunch of over-paid men playing a game. Each and every NFL organization can go belly-up from here on out. You see, the NFL had a great thing going until the NFL began to disrespect me, my flag, my president, and my fellow patriots who love our country. If the NFL does not love the USA, which has provided Billions of dollars to the NFL, pack up all your shit and start the NFL in another country. I loved th Bears as much as anyone, but now my heart is broken. Good-bye NFL. I do not wish you luck!, Please feel free to publish, share and spread my words.

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