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Trump's Speech on Afghanistan at 9pm
He'll be calling for additional troops, as the genius McMasters advised him.
US official: President has signed off on 4,000 more US troops to Afghanistan; not clear he will talk numbers t'night. No talk of withdrawal.
— Jennifer Griffin (@JenGriffinFNC) August 21, 2017
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 08:44 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 08:44 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 08:44 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 08:45 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 08:46 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2017 08:46 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2017 08:46 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2017 08:46 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 08:46 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 08:47 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2017 08:47 PM (IqV8l)
What is the strategy for WINNING?!
To me, that entails killing and killing massively, with no mercy. And then martial law for at least 15 years. Closing of all mosques. etc.
This is a huge fuckup.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2017 08:47 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Juan McCain at August 21, 2017 08:47 PM (F9322)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2017 08:47 PM (IqV8l)
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Seems like it, doesn't it.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 08:47 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2017 08:48 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:48 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 21, 2017 08:48 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 21, 2017 08:49 PM (ZTRlp)
Posted by: Bete the deplorable at August 21, 2017 08:49 PM (F9322)
Posted by: JuJuBee at August 21, 2017 08:49 PM (2NqXo)
Posted by: Zombie Alexander the Great at August 21, 2017 08:49 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:48 PM (PY9jH)
When in doubt, whack 'em out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (SRKgf)
Obama didn't want to hurt the feelz of the jihadis.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (PY9jH)
McMustard is the enemy, n'est ce pas?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (tbOMB)
CNN: Pres. Trump will announce that he's sending in the Trumpen SS and kill everyone in Afghanistan because he's a Nazi!!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2017 08:51 PM (Hnqc1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:48 PM (PY9jH)
Pull out the troops and send in wave after wave of B-52's and B-1's.
Make the rubble bounce.
For that matter, same treatment for "The Islamic State."
What the hell, Iran, too (although I'd be inclined to be a bit more "surgical" in the case of Iran . . . a few MOABs just to spice up the offering once the air defenses have been reduced, I think.)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 08:51 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (mbhDw)
McMustard, McMiffin. They all look alike to me.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at August 21, 2017 08:51 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (mbhDw)
Well, he seems to have a dislike of teh Joos and Israel. And he's kept Obama's minions in place.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:51 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (SRKgf)
Yeah, but just try doing that on a train. Amtrak has no sense of humor.
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 08:51 PM (ANIFC)
I just don't know enough to have an informed opinion.
I don't like the cost, but I'd like to see a large Base of Operation adjacent to Iran and Pakistan . ...which comes at a human cost.
As I said, that's a tough one.
My Libertarian side says, "Get Out".
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 08:52 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:52 PM (PY9jH)
Obama didn't want to hurt the feelz of the jihadis.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:50 PM (PY9jH)
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Your son is a good man, and brave. I just don't know if this is a winnable thing. 4000 troops? I think if we're in, we have to be all in. If we're not, I don't want any more unwarranted deaths. I hope he gives us a picture of the end game.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 08:52 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Bete the deplorable at August 21, 2017 08:53 PM (F9322)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Derptastic at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: Bete the deplorable at August 21, 2017 08:53 PM (F9322)
That's not Rule 34.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (q177U)
Your son is a good man, and brave. I just don't
know if this is a winnable thing. 4000 troops? I think if we're in, we
have to be all in. If we're not, I don't want any more unwarranted
deaths. I hope he gives us a picture of the end game.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 08:52 PM (lwiT4)
Your son is as well. What a shame they had to serve under a military-loathing CiC.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (UDkAD)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 08:55 PM (6FqZa)
Trump did more to beat back ISIS in 6 months than Obama did in 8 years by changing the ROE. I think he's earned a bit of leeway.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 08:55 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2017 08:55 PM (fZlu3)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (UDkAD)
Oh please stop using useless labels. Got a suggestion make one and then defend it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 08:56 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 21, 2017 08:56 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (ANIFC)
Hmmm. I can't say I don't disagree with this, in hindsight. The Iranians, Saddam, and other troublemakers would have certainly taken notice.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:56 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (UDkAD)
So Bannon was the real power & Trump is just an empty suit?
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 08:56 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 21, 2017 08:56 PM (a7FXx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (PY9jH)
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I know. He was a joke. No one in my son's unit could stand him. Obama just hung them out to dry. No wonder so many got out.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 08:56 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 08:56 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:57 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 08:57 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2017 08:58 PM (5VlCp)
Anyone asking these questions? Where's my friggin' press pass?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2017 08:58 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 08:58 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 08:54 PM (ANIFC)
Hmmm. I can't say I don't disagree with this, in hindsight. The Iranians, Saddam, and other troublemakers would have certainly taken notice.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:56 PM (PY9jH)
I have this fantasy where the President, on TV, reaches into a bowl and pulls out a slip of paper: "OK, we will immediately nuke (squints to read paper) ..."
Put the fear of God into a lot of assholes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 08:58 PM (SRKgf)
Let them keep their sharia law?
Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2017 08:59 PM (w7KSn)
And if there is a G-D in heaven, please no deadlines
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 08:58 PM (SjImc)
Trump isn't stupid, unlike Umbrella Boy. There was a guy on Fox today who said he was in Afghanistan when Obama announced the surge....and then told the Taliban the date we'd be leaving.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 08:59 PM (PY9jH)
Let them keep their sharia law?
Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2017 08:59 PM (w7KSn)
What we need is more nation dismantling and less building, IMHO.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2017 09:00 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2017 08:59 PM (w7KSn)
They can keep their sharia law and kill each other for all I care, but unforetunetaly it keeps leaking out to infest the rest of the world
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:00 PM (SjImc)
... "Quetta, Islamabad, Allahabad, and Yomommabad"
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:00 PM (6FqZa)
379 Heh! Suppose Trump comes out and tells us that Mad Dog has been given any and all assets he wants with no ROE until congress either declares we are at war with the Taliban and its allies, or we're gonna just pull out entirely. You make the call congress.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
Put those congresscritters' mouths on the line. They really hate that. They love bitchin' and moanin', until they have to take a vote.
Posted by: GnuBreed, still deplorable after all these months at August 21, 2017 09:00 PM (6jaju)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 21, 2017 09:00 PM (fA1SL)
No thanks.
Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2017 09:01 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:01 PM (hZ+us)
I still can't believe we abandoned Camp Leatherneck. It's probably a goat breeding facility now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:02 PM (PY9jH)
2. Kill everything not aligned with the US.
3. Then, kill 'em again.
4. Repeat as necessary.
5. Profit!!
Posted by: Steve Bannon's Alter-Ego at August 21, 2017 09:02 PM (MCEs2)
"We're taking this shit. We broke it, we bought it."
*Plants Flag*
"We own everything from this dirt to those mountains."
*Builds A.F.B.*
"You. Start mixing concrete. We got shit to do."
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:02 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Ibn Abi Bakra at August 21, 2017 09:02 PM (6FqZa)
And then the perfumed princesses rolled in and wrecked it.
And now, 16 years later, nothing is changing.
Bring. Them. Home.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 21, 2017 09:03 PM (v3I5m)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:03 PM (PY9jH)
... "Quetta, Islamabad, Allahabad, and Yomommabad"
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:00 PM (6FqZa)
... and all of Buttfuckistan."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:03 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:03 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: the East India Company at August 21, 2017 09:03 PM (6FqZa)
"We're taking this shit. We broke it, we bought it."
*Plants Flag*
"We own everything from this dirt to those mountains."
*Builds A.F.B.*
"You. Start mixing concrete. We got shit to do."
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:02 PM (Ckg4U)
"What is your ass doing on our property?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:04 PM (SRKgf)
-Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:03 PM (SRKgf)
*HAH!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:05 PM (Ckg4U)
I still can't believe we abandoned Camp Leatherneck. It's probably a goat breeding facility now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:02 PM (PY9jH)
Muhammed Muhammed Muhammed: Well there's a lot of goat fucking that goes on but not much breeding
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2017 09:05 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:05 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:05 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:06 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:06 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:06 PM (s5o+q)
"We're taking this shit. We broke it, we bought it."
*Plants Flag*
"We own everything from this dirt to those mountains."
*Builds A.F.B.*
"You. Start mixing concrete. We got shit to do."
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:02 PM (Ckg4U)
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Unfortunately, that line of thinking ended after WWII. Korea and onward have been proportional response political wars ever since, with Libtards giving back any gains we may have truly made, every time.
Posted by: GOULD at August 21, 2017 09:06 PM (Ystq3)
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:07 PM (EgOr3)
-Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:04 PM (SRKgf)
"We told you yesterday that you had exactly zero seconds to get the fuck off our
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:07 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:07 PM (hZ+us)
The Soviets employed terror, gassings, rape, kidnap and torture to no avail. With no meddling press or democrat party to intervene.
We have ROE where we can't shoot first. Compared to the Soviets we are choir boys.
Get out and bomb/assassinate as needed.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (tMFgx)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (7THdB)
How sad that generations since have been cheated out of winning wars.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:09 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2017 09:09 PM (89T5c)
What is the strategy for WINNING?!
To me, that entails killing and killing massively, with no mercy. And then martial law for at least 15 years. Closing of all mosques. etc.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2017 08:47 PM (mbhDw)
I'd rather close the mosques in the United States than Afghanistan.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2017 09:09 PM (sdi6R)
"We're taking this shit. We broke it, we bought it."
*Plants Flag*
"We own everything from this dirt to those mountains."
*Builds A.F.B.*
"You. Start mixing concrete. We got shit to do"
Colonialism? Hmm. We'll need some settlers. How about transporting Antifa and the MSM?
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:09 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (SjImc)
I don't even check out Drudge until an hour after I get home.
Posted by: ALT-MIDDLE at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (u/p7K)
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (tMFgx)
The man is a fucking genius, I tell ya.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (5VlCp)
Yup. We need to shit or get off that pot.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (7THdB)
===========================
His car ran into a pole in the parking lot at the Y. Seatbelt injuries to the chest. No wait. That was me.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:03 PM (PY9jH)
Yup. it kind of surprised me, initially, but President Trump truly admires the troops.
Can't fake that.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (v3I5m)
Afghanistan is surrounded by other nations (is itself a collection of nations) and when one empire invades it, all that empire's enemies have to do is give support to the rebels.
Ibn Abi Bakra had various para-Hindu princes dotted around his army. The British had to deal with the Persians and the Russians. The Russians had, well, Charlie Wilson (D).
And now America has to deal with Iran AND China AND Putin, AND the Pakis.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (6FqZa)
Can't fake that.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (v3I5m)
Well he is an American Patriot apparently unlike most on the Left
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (3ipea)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (tMFgx)
Genius sir, pure genius. You must become a senior advisor to Pres. Trump
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (/qEW2)
Why is he out of breath?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2017 09:08 PM (7THdB)
He's always sounded like that. Some kind of sinus issue or something. It's weird . . .
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (/tuJf)
He was ORDERED not to take the shot, because ROE. So, as he drove his lead vehicle into the village, a round hit his bullet proof driver's side window.
His Sgt. said, "Shit's gettin' real" and cranked up some music.
That's not how the hell you win wars. Our troops knew it then, and know it now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (SjImc)
The entire JAG cadre needs to be shipped back stateside, pronto.
Supply and logistics REMFs are brothers at arms, and very necessary to the effort.
H.R. departments wearing camo have no place in-theater. Go back to having a Company Paymaster, and leave the rest of the SJW back office to wither at Ft. Wherever, ND.
Our military, if stuck in Afghanistan, needs to have all the Taliban types shitting themselves in fear at just the mere thought of encountering an American solider.
The Afghan civilian though, needs to be in awe of those fantastic Americans, for every good reason that Americans are known for.
But not because of "Meals on Wheels" programs.
But because American Soldiers are Just and Merciful, to those deserving of it.
And American Soldiers, Marines, Airmen and Sailors, are the baddest assest futhermuckers on the planet, and are not to be fvcked with by any herd of goat molesting carpet sniffers.
Seek, find and destroy the enemy. No mercy, no quarter, no escape.
Could be done in months, not years. IF ONLY we had the national will, and stomach to do so.
That is all. Carry on.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (MGCfm)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:10 PM (lwiT4)
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Grammie, I left you a response at 339 on the last thread.
Posted by: GOULD at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (Ystq3)
Dubya tried that. "Mission Accomplished". He was actually telling the truth - about that phase of the war.
The man got pilloried for it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (6FqZa)
Memo like Obama did. Instead, Trump rejected the first round of proposals, per Mattis, and said, "do better."
Everyone remember that Isis was the "JV" squad, just a few years ago?
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (hZ+us)
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (MGCfm)
I'm good with what you said
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:13 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: GOULD at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (Ystq3)
====================
Okie doke.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:13 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:13 PM (ANIFC)
After being confronted, he tried to drink some of the liquid explosives but "immediately spit the liquid on the ground ... then proceeded to pour the contents of the bottle on the ground next to him," according to the statement.
"Nitroclycerin is highly dangerous to transport or use," Hutchinson wrote. "ln its undiluted form, it is one of the world's most powerful explosives."
Mr. Ayers is now resting comfortably at the hospital.".......
I quote from memory. San Francisco Police Officer Brian McDonnell's.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 21, 2017 09:13 PM (Ndje9)
"Honest, sir, I was just cleaning my weapon and it went off. Won't happen again."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (3C9q2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (PY9jH)
nd now America has to deal with Iran AND China AND Putin, AND the Pakis.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:11 PM
And ME. There's still Me! Remember ME!
Posted by: Kim Jong-un at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (SjImc)
Yep-- with battle streamers.
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (3C9q2)
The white one on the left (his right) is Army
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (ANIFC)
Memo like Obama did. Instead, Trump rejected the first round of proposals, per Mattis, and said, "do better."
Everyone remember that Isis was the "JV" squad, just a few years ago?
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (hZ+us)
Sue,
I had forgotten about the check the box style of presidenten.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (PY9jH)
They buy their panties already twisted.
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (Enq6K)
Damn. Brilliance on display. Just move all the confederate monuments and statues of Columbus there. Build and they will come.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (SjImc)
I agree. I heard earlier he was going to kill the ROE. Release the Mad Dog!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:14 PM (SjImc)
I sure as hell hope so.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:16 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: dantesed at August 21, 2017 09:16 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2017 09:16 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:16 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Dave's Not Here at August 21, 2017 09:16 PM (sXefu)
The man got pilloried for it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (6FqZa) fnord (6FqZa)
The banner was for *the ship* and it's crew, not for him or the war. That was clear if you actually heard or read the speech.
One of the top 20,000 misreported stories on the last 20 years.
People get mad, and I get that, but it ain't about mad, it's about the problem.
If you're on a sinking boat surrounded by sharks, you got problems, but hating sharks ain't gonna help.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (wB8Tg)
The American Tribe.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (ANIFC)
The red flag behind Trump is the Marine Flag.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (Ri/rl)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (MGCfm)
The JAG corps isn't the problem. The ROE are set by the WH. All the lawyers can do is advise commanders.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (Tnhbr)
Results based approach
Love it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:15 PM (SjImc)
Outbreak of common sense.
And a marked departure from The Negro's era.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:18 PM (s5o+q)
I absolutely trust him. But he has to depend on advisers for the military stuff and I no longer trust the brass. Horrifies me to say so, but it's true.
4000 doesn't sound like enough to me. Unless they're going in with nukes and killing them all.
Which is what I'd do.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 21, 2017 09:18 PM (3ipea)
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 21, 2017 09:18 PM (3C9q2)
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:18 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (s5o+q)
The man got pilloried for it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (6FqZa)
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As I understand it, and someong please correct me if I'm wrong, the ship he was on had happened to just complete a successful mission, hence the banner.
It was not supposed to mean a success in the ME, if this is correct. Just MFM twist as usual.
Posted by: GOULD at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (Ystq3)
You train young warriors to break shit and kill people, and then tie their hands, and even threaten them with court martial for doing what they trained to do.
Not a hot enough place in Hell for Obama and his minions. He got our young men and women killed and maimed for nothing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (PY9jH)
I bet Debbie Wasserman Schultz are in a severe bunch at the moment.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (/tuJf)
I saw it (and see it) as a WH attempt to float the meme that we'd won, so that a victory parade could follow. And why not: giving the impression that we're winning is important propaganda.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (xiOrX)
Sometimes there's no win, and the best you can do is keep things from getting out of control. You don't expect to win when you spray for roaches, do you? Nope, you just expect the be rid of them until the next time you have to spray.
We're spraying.
Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (+azJs)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (fA1SL)
"Students will find a new technique in prejudice and sophistry through pre-wringing wet panties before addressing conservative and libertarian subjects."
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (Ckg4U)
This time to kill you all first.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (xiOrX)
Asymmetric warfare is a bitch.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (3ipea)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (xiOrX)
Because we are NOT waging war there, we have been waging muslim outreach instead
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (SjImc)
How do you like us now, China?
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (s5o+q)
Not to mention Pockystan, which must be shitting itself at this prospect.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (PY9jH)
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Yes he did. Deliberately, if you ask me.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:17 PM (Ri/rl)
Scarlet for the blood spilled to keep free men free.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (Enq6K)
The Talibs are in some trouble. America is no longer led by a feminist eunuch married to a Wookie. The ROE changes should also be vastly amusing.
I don't think Trump will "win" in any universally accepted way, but we are about to see how much damage America cam do when off the leash.
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (+8FrI)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (ANIFC)
This proves that these people don't really have convictions. They just have jobs and live in the beltway/NYC
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (PjdRu)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (jm1YL)
Well Hitler Hitler Hitler ya know...just wait till the post speech mop up on CNN and MSNBC
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (SRKgf)
Pakistan has been a Chinese protectorate for a while. It's nice to see an administration that recognizes this.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (Tnhbr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:20 PM (SjImc)
This.
We've been playing grab-ass with the wogs. We need to shift to a different perspective: why should we allow you to live? Be brief in your answer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (jm1YL)
That's right. They're gonna keep marching til they burn Savannah to the ground. Nobody's going to tell them where Savannah is, either.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:21 PM (ANIFC)
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (89T5c)
The man got pilloried for it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 21, 2017 09:12 PM (6FqZa)
This is an incorrect and fallacious take on recent history.
It was not President Bush who flew the "Mission Accomplished" banner, nor was that banner in any way a part of the Presidential visit (via arrested landing), aboard the carrier U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln.
The banner was produced and flown by the Ship's Company, denoting HER "Mission Accomplished", after an extraordinarily long deployment in-theatre.
But of course, the press used the camera angles to conflate the two things, and then proceeded to endlessly beat that misconception into the American conscious, until myth became "fact" to so very many.
It's the Press. It's what they do.
And they must be destroyed as an institution, asap.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (MGCfm)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (/tuJf)
I like what he is saying
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (xiOrX)
Then - If we drew fire from a village we'd pull back and level it with artillary, rinse, repeat...
Now- walk in on egg shells looking for the one guy who is concealed by the locals.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (hZ+us)
That's right. They're gonna keep marching til
they burn Savannah to the ground. Nobody's going to tell them where
Savannah is, either.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (z2W2E)
Psst. Sherman didn't burn Savannah.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (UDkAD)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (PY9jH)
Shooosh he's on a roll
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (di1hb)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (lwiT4)
Realpolitik is not a dirty word. It's realizing the limits of power and persuasion while also upholding your own interests.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:24 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:24 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:24 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:24 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:24 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (SjImc)
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Me too. Which surprises the heck out of me, to tell the truth.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:24 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Jaimo at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (eDc0r)
Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (AYrAT)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (PY9jH)
Mr. Peabody wouldn't let him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (KP5rU)
You are a man a few words and you sir are correct.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:25 PM (Ri/rl)
Jake reenlisted because he loves the Army and is now an NCO serving somewhere in Eastern Europe (Poland, I think, but he can't tell me outright.) I like it that he spends his free time with Polish and Romanian girls, with no bad guys shooting at him, but that won't last. At some point his unit will draw the card and be sent there, I know it.
Nothing in Afghanistan, that godforsaken rathole, is worth my son's life. Nothing. I have yet to see or hear anything from a representative of the Afghani people that says they even want us there. So let's not be there. If it's what they want, let them live unmolested in barbarism and savagery until the end of fucking time.
Posted by: troyriser at August 21, 2017 09:26 PM (4qf5a)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2017 09:26 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:26 PM (PY9jH)
-Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:22 PM (/tuJf)
We'll see, in my case. I'm still torn. I just don't know what I don't now.
/Rumsfeld
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:26 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:26 PM (lwiT4)
And yet the assholes in the media will pick apart his inspirational words and find all sorts if additional reasons to hate him.
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (AYrAT)
Posted by: E.T. at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (P1GJy)
certainly more serious and presidential than the tweets.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (hZ+us)
I still think that we should have adopted all the Afghan war orphans, sealed off a couple of valleys, and spent ten years training up a generation with a western education and western military training.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (Tnhbr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (PY9jH)
Exactly. They are so predictable and PDT knows it and will say so. Expect overnight tweeting.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: Ruth Terry at August 21, 2017 09:28 PM (loZXu)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (PY9jH)
Shooosh he's on a roll
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (SjImc)
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He didn't burn Atlanta either. Atlantans did as he marched through in order to leave him nothing on their way out.
Posted by: GOULD at August 21, 2017 09:28 PM (Ystq3)
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:28 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (hZ+us)
Just remember that the media, almost unanimously, hates America and all it stands for. They're Globalists, not Americans.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:28 PM (s5o+q)
up to drown out the screams of little boys being raped by our Afghan
"partners?"
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2017 09:23 PM (UDkAD)
That's harsh. We give them pizza first.
Posted by: John Podesta at August 21, 2017 09:28 PM (sXefu)
Posted by: troyriser at August 21, 2017 09:26 PM (4qf5a)
Thank your son for his service, and thank you for your sacrifice. I, too, have loved ones in harms way.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 09:28 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:28 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2017 09:29 PM (89T5c)
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I get it. Were my son still in, I would probably share many of those same sentiments.
I will pray for him.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:29 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:29 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (PY9jH)
Mine too Jane, mine too.
Had to live through mine being in Iraq and Afghanistan under President Poofter. Aged me 10 years.
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (Enq6K)
How I wish our son had served under this man.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (PY9jH)
I'm only reading here, not watching the speech but I thought of you and D'Oh boy when people started talking about what Trump was saying.
How is D'oh Boy? And your other new son? Any word on how his mother is doing? I pray for all of you every day.
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Jaimo at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (eDc0r)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (xiOrX)
I alluded to that last night. In a country with a government like ours, wars have to be short, sharp, and decisive. Otherwise the government changes hands through elections, and the incoming party wants to repudiate the policies of its predecessor and do something different. Thus the mission loses focus.
I think this is practically inevitable.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (s5o+q)
What a comparison with his predecessor.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (MINbv)
Why?
Why won't Trump gimme wut I want?
Why won't Trump pay off my Chevy?
Why won't he take out my trash?
WHY?
Posted by: old man yells at clouds at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (fA1SL)
certainly more serious and presidential than the tweets.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:27 PM (AxFdW)
Twitter is for tweets. You see yourself in the internet.
Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (nXCp4)
The Military is already pretty much broken... hell... we got destroyers running into merchant ships.
They have been over deployed for so long, they have lost the edge...
Yet, now we will deploy more to Afghanistan... without changing the underlying political conditions (SHARIA AND ISLAM) that would actually allow us to win.
We will not change the country we have invaded.... and they hate us.... so how the hell do we WIN???
Trump has been coopted by the Forever War people in DC.... there is not enough effort to win... just enough to not loose...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:31 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:32 PM (hZ+us)
He didn't say... Unlike Obama he doesn't tell the enemy what he is gonna do
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (O2RFr)
TL;DR - BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (t5bLj)
Posted by: Utopia at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (oby9I)
When we first moved to Columbia I wondered where all the beautiful antibellum buildings were and then I had my "Duh" moment. Found out that the only thing left standing was he University of South Carolina.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (nXCp4)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at August 21, 2017 09:34 PM (0OmEj)
The Military is already pretty much broken... hell... we got destroyers running into merchant ships.
They have been over deployed for so long, they have lost the edge...
Yet, now we will deploy more to Afghanistan... without changing the underlying political conditions (SHARIA AND ISLAM) that would actually allow us to win.
We will not change the country we have invaded.... and they hate us.... so how the hell do we WIN???
Trump has been coopted by the Forever War people in DC.... there is not enough effort to win... just enough to not loose...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:31 PM (NgKpN)
Hum I don't think you listened carefully enough to what he said...He said he is not there to nation build but to kill terrorist. Killing terrorist will change the underlying conditions. And yeah our Military needs to be rebuilt in mind and in body, but Rome was not built in a day either.
And it is not only the 4,000 or so extra troops in the ground, but also the will and determination to use the still over whelming force we possess all around the War Zone that can and maybe will finally come into play
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:34 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2017 09:34 PM (O2RFr)
I must have missed that part of the speech...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (NgKpN)Overwhelming force. Pay attention, eh?
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (EgOr3)
new rules of engagement based on military not political considerations.
no more nation building.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (AxFdW)
His tweeting is generally very useful, and amusing, and informative.
You must be following a parody account, or something.
Otherwise you'd recognize that. Especially in the collapsed media/info environment we have, worst ever.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (fZlu3)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (fA1SL)
Hey, Uncle Palpatine! I saw this over the weekend and immediately thought of you.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ya4x9u8z
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
I must have missed that part of the speech...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (NgKpN)
He was pretty clear about that: KILL THE ENEMY
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (SjImc)
Everyone who's been calling this man a nazi is a damned fool, and the NT
"conservatives" making cause with the media over their stage-managed
KKK circlejerk are boot-licking worms.
Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (nXCp4)
It's a living.
Posted by: Paul Ryan (D -Wis) at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (sXefu)
TL;DR - BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (fA1SL)
We have more cops in New York City, than we have troops deployed to Afghanistan....
If the gloves actually come off? I will be pleasantly surprised... but McMasters is a BIG proponent of the 'ethical warrior' crap.
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (NgKpN)
I pray that we now focus on what PDT said we will do - kill fvcking terrorists.
I think it is genius that he brings in India after criticizing Pakistan - that alone should make the paaah-eee-staahn-eez sit up and take notice.
Also, the quicker we *truly* crack down, the sooner we get the heck out.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (8iiMU)
I mean, mayyyyyyybe Trump won't address this. Maybe. But you know how he loves easy picks. Not only would gunning such men down please the soldiers, it would demotivate the Talibs.
I do not think the new ROE will purge this evil. But I would not bet my life on it.
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (+8FrI)
I must have missed that part of the speech...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (NgKpN)
Change tactics and objectives in Afghanistan. Don't tell the Taliban what they are.
Hold Pakistan accountable for their cooperation with terror, with the primary lever for accountability being a new alliance with India. I've been wondering why the FUCK we haven't already done this since I was in high school.
Greater crackdown on finances and travel in terror-riddle countries. Lean on European countries to increase military expenditure with a possible benefit of increased vigilance at home.
Did you watch the speech?
Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (nXCp4)
I must have missed that part of the speech...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (NgKpN)
I'm just guessing here, but it may be something of the nature of "Fuck up the bad guys until they're either all dead or not willing to be bad guys any more."
At least that's what I'm hoping the new strategy is.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (s5o+q)
Exactly.
I really don't get the thinking behind just leaving. The last time Afghanistan was left alone to sink into gang rule it didn't work out so well for us.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (dEQP3)
Son is dealing with a lot of personal shit, is busy with the start of his last year of college, serving as president of SVA (student veterans' group), and a college service organization. He's lost another friend to suicide. My husband and I worry, because this is the third friend he served with he's lost. His mental state isn't the best, and I'm sick for him.
Our new African student is fine, but needs waaaay more attention than previous students. Poor kid has never traveled from his own country. So we (I am) are busy.
Life is interesting, and not always in the best way.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (PY9jH)
I must have missed that part of the speech...
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I'm gonna go with " Not Gonna Say What We're Gonna Do for 1000, Alex".
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (O2RFr)
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no need: the Derp State leaks it out, and the treasonous #MFM makes it a headline all over the globe.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (t5bLj)
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (NgKpN)
Yes he and that worry me also. Worries me Biggly
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (SjImc)
Surprised Melania hasn't gotten on him about the weight. I want him healthy and happily retired from office on 8 years.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (CPk08)
pleasantly surprised... but McMasters is a BIG proponent of the 'ethical
warrior' crap.
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (NgKpN)
McMaster is the office manager. Mattis is our guy on this.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (EgOr3)
I must have missed that part of the speech...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (NgKpN)Overwhelming force. Pay attention, eh?
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (EgOr3)
Uh... what overwhelming force.... 4K more troops? for an entire F'n Country?
For many years, the US Military has been at war, America has not...
I did not see that change tonight...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (NgKpN)
My favorite, tho, is the portrait of Pinochet, captioned 'You picked the wrong country to Marxist in.'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (fA1SL)
Yea f' that. I was talking to my Dad tonight. He spent a year in Nam and couldn't remember that ever happening with the South Vietnamese. Maybe it did but the Afgans have proven they can't be trusted. It's not worth losing even one of our guys to them.
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (P8ayj)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (PY9jH)
*hugs and hugs and hugs*
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:32 PM (hZ+us)
I still have been stalking my neice's friend on twitter that is now joking the Air Force. She keeps tweeting things Such a dick to PDT and you the dumbest mfer ever.
Do you live by all those white people? And other lovely things that I don't think are appropriate.
Should I bring copies to the recruiting station? I don't know how to report her.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:35 PM (NgKpN)
Put McMaster and Mattis in a room and wait to see which one comes out.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:38 PM (s5o+q)
Our military will kill them no doubt... At the end of the day we will eventually leave and the root of the problem is still there.
There will always be sharia, dancin boys, drugs, poverty ...etc ...etc ...etc
If you cant name the problem it wont be fixed.
Posted by: E.T. at August 21, 2017 09:38 PM (P1GJy)
Works for me.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 09:38 PM (MINbv)
Joining instead of joking.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:38 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2017 09:38 PM (O2RFr)
She was pleased. I never caught her name.
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:38 PM (Enq6K)
He talked about depending on the Afghan Security Forces. Aren't those the guys who shoot our men in the back?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2017 09:30 PM (IqV8l)
I don't know if you're trolling Trump's tweets of last year (in which case my comment is off the mark), but the ANSF have taken a hell of a lot more casualties and the Afghan people have put a lot more blood and (relative to their wealth) treasure into fighting the Taliban than we have. They do not want the Taliban back in charge.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (Ri/rl)
Not a bad idea. But there's probably an easier way to tip them off. I don't know what it is, she's your niece. Just think about it.
Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (nXCp4)
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:38 PM (Enq6K)
???
She has a name, sorry, I just thought she was pretty. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (SjImc)
And then when Trump was done, becuz ABC, that worthless turd Matthew Dowd immediately started tearing into Trump. Thirty seconds of his shit and I had to mute him before I punched my computer.
Posted by: GnuBreed, still deplorable after all these months at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (6jaju)
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (dEQP3)
Thanks, hon. I've been more than a mess the past couple of weeks.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:33 PM (fA1SL)
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (0mRoj)
there is no formula for victory in afghanistan. there hasn't been from day one, as far as i've been concerned. i don't have a solution, either, save stave off utter chaos, minimize corruption, push back pakistan.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (AxFdW)
Trump was pretty clear that he wasn't committing to the specific number of troops as part of the new strategy of not telling our enemies what our strategy is.
Kind of a novel approach after the last 8 years.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (nXCp4)
It's not my niece, it's actually an acquaintance of my neice.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (Ckg4U)
That's what every other president says. No--not *all* presidents; every *other* president.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (Ri/rl)
Yes. Burn the b*tch. Burn her bad.
Ideas have consequences . . . even stupid, addle-brained, wrong-headed ones.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (s5o+q)
I'll believe it when the MOABs start dropping.
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:41 PM (P8ayj)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (ANIFC)
Haven't heard from that asshole McCain yet. Miss Lindsey is happy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:41 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:41 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:41 PM (PY9jH)
Well now I can die a happy man
/S
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (s5o+q)
I keep saving screen shots. Her twitter account is public for now.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (UW/JF)
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (P8ayj)
See my remarks above at 297. You do have a bad apple element (less than 1 percent) who are fifth columnists. Don't throw out the 99 percent because of the 1 percent. Hell, Nidal Hassan killed more American troops than any of our Afghan allies ever did, and he was one of us. What are we supposed to do, surrender?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (jK8Z7)
Obama warped and trashed this.
Here we are.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (2wRtc)
Yup. Fucked if we do, fucked if we don't. I'd actually prefer no further loss of American lives. Nobody asks me.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (Ri/rl)
Then print them out, write a bit.ly link to her twitter profile in pen on the top copy and hand-deliver them to the recruiting station.
Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (nXCp4)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (SjImc)
The chick on FBN in the greenish top?
Yeah, she sounded good and looked better.
Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (Ri/rl)
She have any reference to the military in her acct. profile? In uniform? Does she mention anything at all about the military?
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: John McCain at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (Ri/rl)
Print the screen shots and mail them to the recruiting office anonymously.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (0mRoj)
But even a partial victory- showing that America can gain any ground with a focused policy that has no room for the culture shocking that defined Dog Eater abroad- will be a true sign to the military. A sign someone cares.
Get ready. This thing is not entirely about Afghanistan.
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (+8FrI)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (2wRtc)
This will do nothing to solve the burning issue of Confederate statues! Nothing!
Posted by: Our Betters at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: zmdavid at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Cosda at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (NisX9)
Posted by: Beartooth at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (4EuJq)
Afghanistan is a lost cause. I fear all this will result in is more dead soldiers. There is no clear victory in this place. Killing more of them creates more of them. So other than glassing the entire country, what consitutes a winning hand??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 09:44 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (AxFdW)
There hasn't been a strategy for victory in Afghanistan for millenia. That's history. It's a pit into which blood is poured and nothing but more blood comes out.
I say this not to slam on Trump but to point out that all of the options are terrible. If we're going to stay there, then taking the gloves off and fighting to destroy the terrorists is what we should do.
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 21, 2017 09:44 PM (dEQP3)
So did Rubio. Maybe McCain will endorse it and erase all doubt this is a clusterfuck.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2017 09:44 PM (UDkAD)
Posted by: zmdavid at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (xqRaG)
Sigh yes, that is the only thing we can be sure of. Fuckin traitors
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:44 PM (SjImc)
He said he wouldn't be a bit surprised if the new troops were already on the ground.
Posted by: antisocialist at August 21, 2017 09:44 PM (W2wn0)
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (fZlu3)
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:41 PM (P8ayj)
April 13, 2017, USA Today: http://tinyurl.com/yaf4xzkc
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Beartooth at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (4EuJq)
We made a serious strategic error after 9/11 in not simply leveling the place with wave after wave of B-52's carpet-bombing the entire fucking country for a month or so, and then saying "don't ever even think about fucking with us again--OR HARBORING THOSE WHO HAVE DONE SO, or it'll be nukes next time."
Of course, this also should have been done after the Iranian hostage crisis, which would have short-circuited a shitpot-full of world problems since 1979.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (s5o+q)
It's something else we can thank the Brits for. Along with Pakistan.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (MINbv)
Caesar, when it comes to this (or related) topic, and this forum, yes, I
long ago surrendered. Not much point. One reason there's such a moral
hazard in putting a single American into action anywhere, any longer.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (fZlu3)
Yeah, we just heard from Rand Paul.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (EgOr3)
At least that's what I'm hoping the new strategy is.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:36 PM (s5o+q)
That's a pretty good paraphrase of what I think he just said. I also thought his call to unity in the beginning was almost poetic - but it won't budge the lefties, they'd rather rule in hell than serve in heaven - but they don't know that they wont be ruling hell, either.
A very Presidential speech - 8 out of 10 IMHO.
Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (OClXU)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:37 PM (Ri/rl)
I don't know if recruits are subject to the UCMJ, at this point, but her conduct is repugnant to the duties and responsibilities as a service member, not to mention that such could be actionable under the UCMJ, if she was. Recruiters may not care, or they may agree.
Remind her of the duties and responsibilities she is signing up for, or have someone tweet her the same.
https://www.thebalance.com/military-folks-and-politics-3332818
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (0mRoj)
I think I'll do that tomorrow.
She's racist against white people along with the PDT f bombs constantly.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (Ri/rl)
Pulling out of that shithole would be a win as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (bOWNk)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (PY9jH)
Obama's probably getting a lot of panicked calls right now. "Dude, what the hell!? Do an executive order for us, or something!"
Posted by: t-bird at August 21, 2017 09:47 PM (OBJWS)
Posted by: firehorse at August 21, 2017 09:47 PM (W13WA)
Afghanistan is a lost cause. I fear all this
will result in is more dead soldiers. There is no clear victory in this
place. Killing more of them creates more of them. So other than glassing
the entire country, what consitutes a winning hand??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 09:44 PM (pUDQf)
I see you like historical models. Look to 15th Century Scotland and follow that though.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2017 09:48 PM (mkDpn)
Proof, that the policy is not the right one...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:48 PM (NgKpN)
I'm fine with Afghanis killing each other every day until the end of time. I just want them to know that killing an American will got them and the rest of their shit hole of a country beaten to dust.
These aren't Super Men we are talking about. We just have to get serious about delivering the ass whipping we are capable of giving.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:48 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (NXsWM)
Remember, Barry Obama told us he was smarter and better than anyone who advised him on anything.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (PY9jH)
Lindsey is pretty passionate with his 'General Obama' and 'General Ryan' stuff, don't think I've ever seen him so excited.
Posted by: firehorse
I have!
Posted by: Shep Smith at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (IqV8l)
I'm wrong, the ship he was on had happened to just complete a
successful mission, hence the banner.
It was not supposed to mean a success in the ME, if this is correct. Just MFM twist as usual.
Posted by: GOULD at August 21, 2017 09:19 PM (Ystq3)
Yes, the USS Abraham Lincoln had been nearing the end of its routine 6 month deployment when it was tasked to participate in Operation Iraqi Freedom tacking on another 5 months at sea. It was a long and busy deployment for Abe. Mission Accomplished symbolized both the end of the Ba'athist Regime and Lincoln's long deployment.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (DxWUs)
==
Yeah. It's all bad.
It's a completely fucked up fight. "We are fighting for an honorable outcome to honor those that went before ."
Good enough. I will have to live with that.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (2wRtc)
place. Killing more of them creates more of them"
The Mongols sorted out out pretty well for a couple of centuries...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (MINbv)
until the end of time. I just want them to know that killing an American
will got them and the rest of their shit hole of a country beaten to
dust.
These aren't Super Men we are talking about. We just have to get
serious about delivering the ass whipping we are capable of giving.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2017 09:48 PM (/tuJf)
This right here.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (EgOr3)
Proof, that the policy is not the right one...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:48 PM (NgKpN)
Yes, but I think it's obvious that Lindsey is a Follower, not a Leader.
Now that McCain's brain is tapioca pudding, Lindsey may be casting about for a new leader to follow.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (tbOMB)
Thank you.
I am going to mail the tweets anonymously to the recruitment center. From a different post office.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2017 09:43 PM (0mRoj)
I think I'll do that tomorrow.
She's racist against white people along with the PDT f bombs constantly.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:46 PM (Ri/rl)
As someone said above, burn her. We don't need shits like that in the military.
Is she joining for the benefits, or because she actually cares about defending and protecting the United States?
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (sdi6R)
April 13, 2017, USA Today: http://tinyurl.com/yaf4xzkc
I should have said "dropping like over ripened heavy metal fruit".
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (bOWNk)
We made a serious strategic error after 9/11 in not simply leveling the place with wave after wave of B-52's carpet-bombing the entire fucking country for a month or so, and then saying "don't ever even think about fucking with us again--OR HARBORING THOSE WHO HAVE DONE SO, or it'll be nukes next time."
Of course, this also should have been done after the Iranian hostage crisis, which would have short-circuited a shitpot-full of world problems since 1979.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:45 PM (s5o+q)
How do I vote for you
Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (nXCp4)
Of course, this also should have been done after the Iranian hostage crisis, which would have short-circuited a shitpot-full of world problems since 1979.
Jimmy Carter: History's Greatest Monster
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (LTHVh)
You say that like there is a finite number of them...
Posted by: E.T. at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (P1GJy)
Lindsey is pretty passionate with his 'General Obama' and 'General Ryan' stuff, don't think I've ever seen him so excited.
Posted by: firehorse
I have!
Posted by: Shep Smith
Hey Ladies!!!
Posted by: Zombie Jerry Lewis at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (QwwnI)
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:51 PM (bOWNk)
It's a completely fucked up fight. "We are fighting for an honorable outcome to honor those that went before ."
Good enough. I will have to live with that.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (2wRtc)
IMO, we either need to put the resourced in to actually WIN...
or leave...
Putting our Men in harms way, without even really TRYING to win????
Stupidity..... the same stupidity we have dealt with there since 9/11.
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:51 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:51 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2017 09:48 PM (mkDpn)
Blankets with the Black Plague airdropped throughout the country?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 09:51 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 21, 2017 09:52 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 09:52 PM (hZ+us)
there hasn't been from day one, as far as i've been concerned. i don't
have a solution, either, save stave off utter chaos, minimize
corruption, push back pakistan.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (AxFdW)
There's no question that in the end there will have to be a negotiated settlement between Kabul and the Islamists that gives the Islamists a more conservative society in the Pashtun areas. Think of the Islamist political party as the Democrats and the Taliban as the KKK in the Reconstruction South. What it basically took to keep the peace was 100 years of letting the Democrats run the South one step removed from slavery. That will be the outcome in Afghanistan. But before the Afghans can get to that, the Taliban have to be convinced that their cause is militarily futile and there is no point in fighting to get what they want. That is achievable, but it means we and the Afghan government have to take off the gloves and kill a bunch of them. There will be some innocent lives lost and property destroyed. Sherman's March to he Sea was not pleasant.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:52 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: zmdavid at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (bOWNk)
I'm with you on that. I'm willing to bet some of them might get dropped in Pakistan.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: E.T. at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (P1GJy)
Ouuuuccccch!
(lifts up creepily long index finger with glowing tip and wields it menacingly)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (s5o+q)
I'm sure they're scrambling to change their narrative now. "How do we pivot from Confederate monuments and Trump is Hitler to Afghanistan? Hmm. I know. Trump is Hitler!"
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:39 PM (PY9jH)
Prayers up for all y'all-- and hugs too.
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (3C9q2)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (SjImc)
Way back in the day, when I joined the Air Force, you took an oath when you signed up for delayed entry, and took it again when you processed out for basic. Once you took the oath the first time, you were covered by the UCMJ. I knew a few people who were denied enlistment because they violated some article of it that they didn't think applied to them.
Posted by: antisocialist at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (W2wn0)
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (sdi6R)
Propbably for the bennies.
She is tweeting for PDT to be impeached " let's get this shit done now"
" who wants to fly to Virginia and fuck up some white supremacists with me".
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (PY9jH)
Remember he hand-picked his advisers to be dumber than bread, so yes, he might have been right on that one.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (mkDpn)
Putting our Men in harms way, without even really TRYING to win????
==
Where the HELL did you come up with that?
Is losing an honorable outcome now?
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (CPk08)
Juan has been slathering on the Grecian Formula, I believe.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 21, 2017 09:55 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (CPk0
One of his best
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:55 PM (SjImc)
Creating conditions for a political solution. Mentioned Taliban. Recall, that outfit is hardly of one mind, or without its own divisions and opportunities for exploitation.
Just as the "surge" and the recent roll-up of ISIS showed, the main things are in fact pretty simple. Force, killing, imposing your will. Acceptable end-conditions vary by circumstance. A'stan likely will require a pretty flexible definition of acceptable - but he and others know that.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2017 09:55 PM (fZlu3)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 09:51 PM (pUDQf)
Good for you. I hope you find success.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2017 09:55 PM (mkDpn)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (ANIFC)
Hated it!
Posted by: Mittens at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (sXefu)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (SjImc)
At minimum, absolute minimum, this frees the military in ways they never imagined. Maybe it doesnt result in V-A Day. But soldiers know the difference between being treated as pawns and treated as men.
What a time.
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (+8FrI)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (rnAwa)
there's one in Rapid City, SD. let's go!
Who's with me?!
Yarrrggggh!
*Runs out of room*
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (v3I5m)
Posted by: dartist at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (Ri/rl)
Do what you feel is best, of course. Thanks for keeping a watchful eye. I can't say that I was the best sailor, but it changed me for the better.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (tbOMB)
Remember, Barry Obama told us he was smarter and better than anyone who advised him on anything.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (PY9jH)
Remember he hand-picked his advisers to be dumber than bread, so yes, he might have been right on that one.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (mkDpn)
----Biden was the only one qualified to be his veep.
Posted by: zmdavid at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (EgOr3)
It's a completely fucked up fight. "We are fighting for an honorable outcome to honor those that went before ."
Good enough. I will have to live with that.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 09:49 PM (2wRtc)
Please point out how we are trying to win, with the Force levels we will have in Afghanistan?
And unless the President can negotiate a DIFFERENT than already signed Status of Forces Agreement?
The one Obama signed hamstrings us....
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (NgKpN)
i think you're right. since the russians went in and the civil war after, afghanistan has been a lost cause. they lost a government and civil society. the taliban are absolutists, though, backed by paki's and iranians who will push them on for their own interests. can they be brought to accommodation with a kabul govt.? don't know. doubt it. it's a crummy situation.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (ILitO)
He needs to get on the Trump train pronto.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:50 PM (Ri/rl)
What branch of the Military?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 09:58 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 09:58 PM (bOWNk)
Yarrrggggh!
*Runs out of room*
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (v3I5m)
LEROY!!!! JENKINNNNNS!!!!
Posted by: Leroy Jenkins at August 21, 2017 09:58 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: teej at August 21, 2017 09:58 PM (mJRr3)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (wPiJc)
That makes sense to me. It may also account for the high suicide rate among veterans.
Experiencing all the horrors of war without being allowed to win has got to play havoc with your psyche.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2017 09:58 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Tentotwo at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (yhf6w)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (pUDQf)
I've been wondering how much of a contributing factor to the seemingly
frequent diagnoses of PTSD among our military is the notion that
soldiers are trained to fight wars, and they go into a region like
Afghanistan with their hands tied. Not so much the emotional trauma of
seeing the horrors of war, but seeing the horrors of war and not being
allowed to fight to their maximum trained capabilities in order to end
the war. I'm not sure if it's a factor or not, just wondering.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (wPiJc)
Of course it is, but Iraq a lot more so than Afghanistan. The average soldier, in his deployment to Afghanistan over the last 5 years or so, never saw a shot fired in anger. May have heard a car bombing in the distance. For the most part, life is mundane and boring, spent on secure bases as a trainer for Afghan troops.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (jK8Z7)
The one Obama signed hamstrings us....
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (NgKpN)
I have modified our "agreement." Pray I do not modify it further.
Posted by: Darth Trump at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 09:40 PM (s5o+q)
I keep saving screen shots. Her twitter account is public for now.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 09:42 PM (Ri/rl)
NO, do NOT "take this to a recruiter".
Period. Full stop.
They'll just shitcan it, guaranteed.
Every U.S. Army Base, and most Posts, have a CID element attached to the JAG or MP Companies.
Make some phone calls, and speak to a CID investigator. You can go see them in person if distance allows, OR send your whole package of printouts by FedEx or other overnight carrier with tracking number and delivery verification.
CID will absolutely make Hope Solo's asshole look virginal, in comparison to the cavity search they'll do to what passes for a "brain" with this particular specimen.
By the way, CID stands for "Criminal Investigative Division".
Badass Cops, the Army's FBI, if you will.
They don't play around. Sic 'em!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (MGCfm)
Posted by: MOAB manufacturing foreman at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (wPiJc)
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It's a factor. Helplessness in the face of trauma is haunting and guilt-inducing.
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (lwiT4)
factor to the seemingly frequent diagnoses of PTSD among our military is
the notion that soldiers are trained to fight wars, and they go into a
region like Afghanistan with their hands tied. Not so much the
emotional trauma of seeing the horrors of war, but seeing the horrors of
war and not being allowed to fight to their maximum trained
capabilities in order to end the war. I'm not sure if it's a factor or
not, just wondering.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (wPiJc)
I think you've hit the nail on the head. I know from personal experience talking with our boy and his buddies who were gung ho to deploy (they volunteered for deployment) how disheartened and angry they were afterward. Seeing friends die and maimed and being told to stand down killed their spirits.
May Barack Obama die lonely and despised.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (PY9jH)
War is horror and pain and blood and death and we pay billions every year and send the best of our young to learn to do it.
They are not sent to "nation building" Basic. Or "peace corps" camp.
There has to be a massive sense of dislocation when they are told to carry unloaded weapons and other such political bullshit.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2017 09:53 PM (rnAwa)
I thought there was one built of wattle and malaise.
Posted by: Dave's Not Here at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (sXefu)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (wPiJc)
The only bit of PTSD I have, is NOT from actual combat...
Its from having to pick up dead bodies, of Men I knew, from the Marine Barracks in Lebanon in 83...
Why? Horror, without the chance of either revenge, or victory.
I'll bet a lot of Viet Vets feel the same.... where the fought and did horrible crap, but then their victory was GIVEN away by politicians...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 09:57 PM (tbOMB)
I'm afraid of having another Chelsea Manning or Reality Winner in the military.
I'll bring it to their attention and hopefully the military will do the right thing.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (Ri/rl)
What would Conan do?
THAT's our war strategy now.
Posted by: teej at August 21, 2017 09:58 PM (mJRr3)
make lame jokes, adjust your suit, then check your ridiculous ginger pompadour?
Not sure that will work.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (v3I5m)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 09:51 PM (pUDQf)"
Wrong disease. Would need to drop flea infested rats.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (jm1YL)
Remind me, didn't we enter Afghanistan to find and kill Bin Laden?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (pUDQf)
That was the Democrat/Obama slander. Goes with the story that we should have invaded Tora Bora, which is usually spouted by people who have no frigging idea what they are talking about.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2017 10:01 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: GeoSTI at August 21, 2017 10:01 PM (BQZPm)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2017 10:01 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (jm1YL)
I can't keep my plagues straight. How about rats with fleas in blankets?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 10:01 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (PY9jH)
And crawling with hungry maggots for as long as possible before he draws his last hateful breath.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 10:02 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:00 PM (PY9jH)
He does. Every single day.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 21, 2017 10:02 PM (sXefu)
Posted by: antisocialist at August 21, 2017 09:54 PM (W2wn0)
Yeah, it's been too long for me. Thanks for the reminder. I see the updates from CG. And I retract my prior counsel. Fuck her shit up. Call attention of vets groups to her twitter account. Make it go viral.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:02 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 10:02 PM (MINbv)
Please point out how we are trying to win, with the Force levels we will have in Afghanistan?
==
Please point out the Force levels that Trump will have in Afghanistan.
You can't.
He is not gonna tell you his plans. End.
Seems like the last 8 years has conditioned Americans to expect daily TPS reports on military strategy and tactics.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: shibumi at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (aT+Bx)
frequent diagnoses of PTSD among our military is the notion that
soldiers are trained to fight wars, and they go into a region like
Afghanistan with their hands tied. Not so much the emotional trauma of
seeing the horrors of war, but seeing the horrors of war and not being
allowed to fight to their maximum trained capabilities in order to end
the war. I'm not sure if it's a factor or not, just wondering.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 09:56 PM (wPiJc)
Of course it is, but Iraq a lot more so than Afghanistan. The average soldier, in his deployment to Afghanistan over the last 5 years or so, never saw a shot fired in anger. May have heard a car bombing in the distance. For the most part, life is mundane and boring, spent on secure bases as a trainer for Afghan troops.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (jK8Z7)
Grossman's books "On Killing" and "On Combat" are enlightening for those of us who have done neither and, apparently, also for those who have.
Posted by: Darth Trump at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (s5o+q)
please, the guy who probably needed ValJar to advise him, regular or extra crispy?
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (ILitO)
Thank you. I've wanted to bring this to someone's attention but I didn't know who I should contact.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (Ri/rl)
Remind me, didn't we enter Afghanistan to find and kill Bin Laden?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (pUDQf)
To kill al Qaeda and remove the Taliban government that housed and protected them. During my deployment in 2011-12 to Helmand Province, we killed a metric shit ton of Taliban, but far too many were allowed to live because of ROE and establishing Positive ID (PID). We could have killed hundreds more and if we had been allowed to direct fires across the borders, we could have killed hundreds more.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (DxWUs)
Posted by: grammie winger - I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night at August 21, 2017 10:04 PM (lwiT4)
Of course it is, but Iraq a lot more so than
Afghanistan. The average soldier, in his deployment to Afghanistan over
the last 5 years or so, never saw a shot fired in anger. May have heard a
car bombing in the distance. For the most part, life is mundane and
boring, spent on secure bases as a trainer for Afghan troops.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 09:59 PM (jK8Z7)
That's not true. Our son drove convoys all over Helmand Province. He was injured in a mortar attack, and has a badly injured back to prove it. He also came under attack while investigating an IED after leaving a FOB where 40 Marines had died. He laughs about he and a buddy running and dodging rounds until the Tolleeeebon was taken out by a hellfire missile.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:04 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2017 10:04 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (ILitO)
No, it was Silicone or water based.
Posted by: Dave's Not Here at August 21, 2017 10:05 PM (sXefu)
Only less bad.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 10:06 PM (2wRtc)
I like Jim's advice. And FWIW, I suspect that what she is doing, if subject of the UCMJ, IS a violation of the UCMJ, and as others note above, can preclude her from joining.
Time to learn a valuable lesson, snowflake.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:06 PM (tbOMB)
Thinking about that.
WWII vets came home started families and built the US to greater heights. That's not to say that many did not suffer from what they saw but they were given the training and a definite mission. They completed their mission in what I see as record time considering where the country was at the time the war started. The mission and the will to complete it is everything.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:06 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:06 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (MuTTO)
>> look virginal,
Can they do that for Shep Smith's? I would be impressed.
Don't they check out the social media nonsense of these recruits and stuff on their own?
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (8O3HH)
Only less bad.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 21, 2017 10:06 PM (2wRtc)
Tearing things down is always easier and quicker than building things up.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (s5o+q)
enlightening for those of us who have done neither and, apparently, also
for those who have.
Posted by: Darth Trump at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (s5o+q)
Yup. IIRC, one of the things that made the bomber crews go nuts was losing people every day and not knowing when it would end, and the 25-mission policy improved mental health markedly. Iraq was a lot more like that. Same (stuff), every day. The only thing that ended it was the surge and ROE that got us off the FOBs and going after the enemy.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: Afroman at August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (ECmqV)
Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (MuTTO)
The trick historically is to convince India that it's a good idea. They've traditionally been skittish about any kind of close military relationship with the US, but with China starting to flex newly grown muscles, that might be changing.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 10:08 PM (s5o+q)
Tearing things down is always easier and quicker than building things up.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (s5o+q)
Tearing things down is the only thing the Left knows how to do.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2017 10:09 PM (sdi6R)
Muldoon,
Thinking about that.
WWII vets came home started families and built the US to greater
heights. That's not to say that many did not suffer from what they saw
but they were given the training and a definite mission. They completed
their mission in what I see as record time considering where the
country was at the time the war started. The mission and the will to
complete it is everything.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:06 PM (jm1YL)
My dad and millions of others had the VFW hall. My wife the social worker recognized that it was the only way for millions of men to get group therapy without calling it that.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:09 PM (jK8Z7)
Thinking about that.
WWII vets came home started families and built the US to greater heights. That's not to say that many did not suffer from what they saw but they were given the training and a definite mission. They completed their mission in what I see as record time considering where the country was at the time the war started. The mission and the will to complete it is everything.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:06 PM (jm1YL)
I talked to my Father about this very subject.... he was WW2 and Korea, USN....
He saw some horrific shit, but could put it in perspective because the Victory was worth the shit...
Some of us were never allowed Victory.... it was constantly given away by politicians, even after we paid the price for victory.
That is how you destroy a military force... have them pay the sacrifice, but then don't allow them to win....
And after 9/11.... we are there...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 21, 2017 10:09 PM (NgKpN)
Know of a better way to see more ass?
Posted by: Lindsey at August 21, 2017 10:09 PM (OBJWS)
Posted by: Tuna
*****
As I was thinking about this that exact thought occurred to me. Something fundamentally different about the end result and how those WWII vets came home and lived their lives.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 10:10 PM (wPiJc)
A lot of them went back to war in Korea thinking it would be over in a few months. When they saw how that was going to work out it was very demoralizing.
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2017 10:10 PM (bOWNk)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 10:11 PM (MINbv)
How'd you get our playbook?
Posted by: Dems at August 21, 2017 10:11 PM (kuiuS)
Helmand Province. He was injured in a mortar attack, and has a badly
injured back to prove it. He also came under attack while investigating
an IED after leaving a FOB where 40 Marines had died. He laughs about he
and a buddy running and dodging rounds until the Tolleeeebon was taken
out by a hellfire missile.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:04 PM (PY9jH)
Jane, you are correct. Your son's experience was the exception, not the rule. The typical deployment is very unexciting. I've spent a lot of time in Afghanistan since 2008. Believe it or not, Afghanistan is statistically safer than Mexico, Brazil, or Nigeria.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:11 PM (jK8Z7)
I've read that things are especially tense between China and India up in h mountainous border right now. India needs us I think and I think PDT likes to stick it to China at every opportunity.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (jm1YL)
I like Jim's advice. And FWIW, I suspect that what she is doing, if subject of the UCMJ, IS a violation of the UCMJ, and as others note above, can preclude her from joining.
Time to learn a valuable lesson, snowflake.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:06 PM (tbOMB)
Her pinned tweet is dated June and reads "I'm proud to say I'm joking the USAFand boot camp can't come fast enough.
A retweet reads
You can love your country and hate your govt., yearning to expunge PDT from office.
I'm surprised she's joining the military.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (Ri/rl)
Thank you. I've wanted to bring this to someone's attention but I didn't know who I should contact. Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:03 PM (Ri/rl)
In addition to providing hardcopies, I highly recommend using https://archive.is/ to create snapshots of the Tweets that will be stored online indefinitely. You could then include URLs to said snapshots along with your screencaps.
In fact, I wish more people would use this tool to capture leftist idiocy on Twitter and elsewhere. As opposed to screenshots which could ostensibly be faked, the archive.is snapshots are difficult to repudiate once the authors have deleted their tweets--short of claiming to have been hacked.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (5sQ8t)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 21, 2017 10:10 PM (wPiJc)
There is an Israeli literature on this. If you object morally to what you are doing, you run a higher risk of PTSD.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:11 PM (jK8Z7)
Also, Chicago and Detroit. At least on the weekends.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Reggie L. at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Victoria at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (4i2Ad)
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2017 10:13 PM (mMAhg)
Here's why you don't take that to recruiter.
They're on a very strict and demanding "quota" system, for "sales" (new recruits)
Those recruits MUST get through not only Basic Training, but at least a certain number of months on Active Duty, to "count" for the recruiter's quota.
Recruiter will basically stop at nothing to get anyone who can fog a mirror, past the tests and clear the background check, signed up, into the system and out of basic and secondary training.
Bad things go into a Recruiter's Service Record if they fail in their tasks.
Most Recruiters really won't knowingly sign up a criminal or outright mental defective.
But that girl with some "odd" political views they knew nothing about? Yeah, they'll be pushing her through, with every fiber in their being.
Go to CID, or if USAF, to OSI. Navy is NIS, which does for Marines, too.
But NO WAY to a Recruiter. And I mean this with no disrespect to Recruiters. My late Dad had to serve a hitch as one in his career as a USN Submariner.
No easy task. Either of those jobs.
Let us know what transpires!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2017 10:14 PM (MGCfm)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 21, 2017 10:14 PM (MINbv)
exception, not the rule. The typical deployment is very unexciting.
I've spent a lot of time in Afghanistan since 2008. Believe it or not,
Afghanistan is statistically safer than Mexico, Brazil, or Nigeria.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:11 PM (jK8Z7)
Helmand Province was not boring by any stretch of the imagination. Sangin was one of the most dangerous places out there. Kajaki and Musa Qela had plenty of combat in 2011, even Marjah which had been largely solved in 2009 was not a picnic either.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at August 21, 2017 10:14 PM (DxWUs)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 10:15 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (5sQ8t)
I'm on it.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:15 PM (Ri/rl)
disrespect to Recruiters. My late Dad had to serve a hitch as one in
his career as a USN Submariner.
No easy task. Either of those jobs.
Let us know what transpires!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2017 10:14 PM (MGCfm)
The best thing about Delayed Entry is that it allows recruiters to meet their future quotas by delaying recruits to a future month if they're over quota, which makes that future month's quota easier to make.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:16 PM (jK8Z7)
Yup. IIRC, one of the things that made the bomber crews go nuts was losing people every day and not knowing when it would end, and the 25-mission policy improved mental health markedly.
--------
How those guys in the 8th made themselves get back into their airplanes for each mission during 1943, I'll never understand. Of, course, many couldn't.
But, we could discuss The Somme...how anyone could experience that and ever be normal again is beyond my comprehension.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2017 10:16 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (3ipea)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 21, 2017 10:12 PM (CPk0
And I think it goes without sayingthat if you have large cultural institutions claiming that what you are doing is immoral, it also makes re-integration very difficult.
What pissed me off the most about Obama and Hillary inc. was that they saw soldiers as people paid to do a job with rules, like in a factory or at a desk. The whole idea of honor, integrity, morality: it's like those were commodities. It was just wrong.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (CPk08)
disrespect to Recruiters.
Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2017 10:14 PM (MGCfm)
Yeah, I tried to steer clear of casting aspersions, and I think you did that admirably. I would fully expect you get nowhere for the reasons you note.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (tbOMB)
Please explain how Afghanistan has anything to do with some incompetent sailors serving in Japan. I didn't realize they were serving in an endless quagmire over in Japan and Singapore. Do soldiers ten thousand miles away magically make the sailors on watch blind? How does it work exactly?
Posted by: Sjg at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (gDSJf)
the imagination. Sangin was one of the most dangerous places out there.
Kajaki and Musa Qela had plenty of combat in 2011, even Marjah which had
been largely solved in 2009 was not a picnic either.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at August 21, 2017 10:14 PM (DxWUs)
True. That's why we were there. But no Marines are fighting in Helmand any more. We are now trainers and logisticians at Bagram and places like that, for the most part.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:18 PM (jK8Z7)
Glassing the entire country is my preferred strategy.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (3ipea)
And there's my girl, thinkin' my own thoughts. xoxo!!
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 10:18 PM (EgOr3)
Good G-D MSNBC and McMuffin on to comment on PDT's speech...LOL...Fries anyone?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (SjImc)
McMuffin is MSLSD's go-to guy on PDT's military strategy?
I.
Can't.
Even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:18 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Gen. Ooti at August 21, 2017 10:18 PM (/qEW2)
Thank you Jim.
I wouldn't think it appropriate for a recruit to be tweeting publicly about Obama either the things she has tweeted about PDT.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:18 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (3ipea)
As I always say, they need a nice balmy 72,000,000 degree day with 700 mph winds out of the west.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at August 21, 2017 10:18 PM (aMlLZ)
Glassing the entire country is my preferred strategy.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (3ipea)
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Posted by: Dave's Not Here at August 21, 2017 10:19 PM (sXefu)
inc. was that they saw soldiers as people paid to do a job with rules,
like in a factory or at a desk. The whole idea of honor, integrity,
morality: it's like those were commodities. It was just wrong.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (CPk0
Many of the Left think of soldiers as victims. That's how they can reconcile in their mind that the troops are victims of the evil Bush.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:19 PM (jK8Z7)
There's nothing wrong with using the military when necessary. We have new allies, new people.in charge, and new thinking. Give it a chance.
Posted by: GalosGann at August 21, 2017 10:19 PM (qvdpB)
are now trainers and logisticians at Bagram and places like that, for
the most part.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:18 PM (jK8Z7)
Camp Leatherneck is probably a spa/retreat for the Tolleeeebon now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:20 PM (PY9jH)
Yet most did. The Amazing Generation. Love of country and duty to that country for the greater good.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:20 PM (jm1YL)
>Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Q: Does this Newletter have a Centerfold?
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2017 10:21 PM (mMAhg)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2017 10:21 PM (c8EhQ)
into their airplanes for each mission during 1943, I'll never
understand. Of, course, many couldn't.
But, we could discuss The Somme...how anyone could experience that and ever be normal again is beyond my comprehension.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2017 10:16 PM (OdK9v)
I'm picturing General Savage not being able to climb into the B-17 at the end of Twelve O'Clock High. A great movie, made greater by the fact that there were still people around who remembered the war.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:21 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:21 PM (PY9jH)
If we're sending 4000 troops in, I'm OK with that as long as we return to the main purpose of the military at war:
1)Kill The Enemy
2)Break Stuff
It's the only thing ISIS, the Taliban, etc. will respect, and eventually, fear.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 21, 2017 10:22 PM (rJUlF)
It's a mystery!
Posted by: Progressive at August 21, 2017 10:22 PM (OClXU)
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2017 10:15 PM (hZ+us)
I knew the horde would be able to help me.
I would feel terrible if no one is aware of her actions and she's the next traitor and I kept quiet.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:22 PM (Ri/rl)
Glassing the entire country is my preferred strategy.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 21, 2017 10:17 PM (3ipea)
I'm thinking ifyou are ging to go that route, we'd only need one, and it wouldn't have to be in Afghanistan.
The Sauds might get upset, but whatever....maybe use 3 on the same spot for insurannce...
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 21, 2017 10:22 PM (CPk08)
Yet most did. The Amazing Generation. Love of country and duty to that country for the greater good.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:20 PM (jm1YL)
Well back in the day, they taught civics and patriotism in the Schools, MSNBC/CNN did not exist, and G-D was not a dirty name
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 10:22 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:15 PM (Ri/rl)
Cool! Please keep us apprised.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 21, 2017 10:23 PM (5sQ8t)
Now that Obama pretty much cleaned out Gitmo there's plenty of rooms available for new detainees. Wouldn't that be a kick in his skinny ass if PDT filled it up again?
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:23 PM (jm1YL)
2)Break Stuff
It's the only thing ISIS, the Taliban, etc. will respect, and eventually, fear.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 21, 2017 10:22 PM (rJUlF)
Yup and that is pretty much what The President said
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 10:23 PM (SjImc)
She was surprisingly easy to find on the twitters. What a stupid girl!
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:24 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:23 PM (jm1YL)
I'm betting that's already in the works.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:24 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 21, 2017 10:24 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 10:23 PM (SjImc)
Good. I missed the speech, and I was hoping that is the stance he would take.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 21, 2017 10:24 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2017 10:11 PM (jK8Z7)
My son's infantry unit was mortared and IED'd and in contact on a fairly regular basis. Meanwhile, I'm sure that logistics outfit in Kabul was as statistically safe as safe can be in such a country. Statistics pertaining to warfare can be deceptive.
Posted by: troyriser at August 21, 2017 10:24 PM (4qf5a)
Yet most did. The Amazing Generation. Love of country and duty to that country for the greater good.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:20 PM (jm1YL)
I went in a B-17 once. I got the shivers just thinking what it would be like trying to get out of that thing in a death spiral. I was trying to walk between the bomb racks to get to the back part of plane, and then work my way forward to see what it was like. There was a stinking little 4 inch wide beam to walk on in between the bomb racks. It was frigging spooky to think about. Moving around inside that sucker was a nightmare.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at August 21, 2017 10:25 PM (aMlLZ)
I trust President Trump.
Praying for those who are going in. God be with them and protect them from all harm and deliver the enemy to their hands.
Posted by: Ummmm at August 21, 2017 10:25 PM (LIhNq)
I couldn't hate the fey, mincing ponce more if I tried.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:26 PM (PY9jH)
Impression: Paki and India had better work with us. The Generals and Military have permission to kick ass. Afghanistan had better step up to plate as not a blank check. No times or plans will be leaked to press in advance of kicking ass. We will win.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 21, 2017 10:26 PM (J5mzk)
University President Greg Fenves announced late Sunday night that the statues would be removed, saying such monuments have become symbols of modern white supremacy and neo-Nazism. Crews started working amid a heavy police presence.
Not in Texas ha?
Oh and bullshit on the neo nazi crap
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2017 10:26 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:27 PM (tbOMB)
My brother in law is headed to the Middle East. He has known for some time now. Whatever has been planned has not been leaked.
I trust President Trump.
Praying for those who are going in. God be with them and protect them from all harm and deliver the enemy to their hands.
Posted by: Ummmm at August 21, 2017 10:25 PM (LIhNq)
Prayers up for you bro in law and all of our servicemembers. For as long as it takes.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 10:27 PM (EgOr3)
On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away Lyrics
Written by Paul Dresser
Composed by Paul Dresser
'Round my Indiana homesteads wave the cornfields,
In the distance loom the woodlands clear and cool.
Oftentimes my thoughts revert to scenes of childhood,
Where I first received my lessons, nature's school.
But one thing there is missing in the picture,
Without her face it seems so incomplete.
I long to see my mother in the doorway,
As she stood there years ago, her boy to greet.
[CHORUS]
Oh, the moonlight's fair tonight along the Wabash,
From the fields there comes the breath of newmown hay.
Through the sycamores the candle lights are gleaming,
On the banks of the Wabash, far away.
Many years have passed since I strolled by the river,
Arm in arm, with sweetheart Mary by my side,
It was there I tried to tell her that I loved her,
It was there I begged of her to be my bride.
Long years have passed since I strolled thro' there churchyard.
She's sleeping there, my angel, Mary dear,
I loved her, but she thought I didn't mean it,
Still I'd give my future were she only here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2017 10:27 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: Ummmm at August 21, 2017 10:28 PM (LIhNq)
Release the hounds.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 21, 2017 10:28 PM (J5mzk)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2017 10:28 PM (KP5rU)
Jane @522, oh, I am sure he and The Hag are deep in their cups and shrieking. Good.
Release the hounds.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 21, 2017 10:28 PM (J5mzk)
Heh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:29 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2017 10:27 PM (OdK9v)
I actually own a very old book of James Whitcomb Riley. It's very cool
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 10:29 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2017 10:30 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 21, 2017 10:30 PM (J5mzk)
I actually own a very old book of James Whitcomb Riley. It's very cool
Posted by: Peaches
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Of course you do. I would have expected it. So do I.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2017 10:31 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2017 10:32 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2017 10:32 PM (EgOr3)
Yet most did. The Amazing Generation. Love of country and duty to that country for the greater good.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2017 10:20 PM (jm1YL)
The belief in God and Praying had something to do with it, I always think of the men in the Revolutionary war and Civil war. How the hell did they just line up and face a slaughterhouse, the belief in God had something to do with it. I have read my Great Great Grandfather's Civi war documents, that dealt with him trying to get a Pension or disability benefits because he was shot through the shoulder. Lots of Info even from his Comanding Officer who thought he would die and promoted him so his Widow would get better benefits.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 21, 2017 10:35 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:36 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Afroman at August 21, 2017 10:38 PM (ECmqV)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 21, 2017 10:40 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Abby at August 21, 2017 10:41 PM (HBU7W)
Obama wanted to prosecute Dr. Mitchell and Co. for waterboarding. but knew it would blow up in his face. Instead, he took credit for Mitchell's work in finding bin Laden while grandstanding against him.
Pakistani Dr. Afridi also worked with us to find bin Laden. But Obama denied Dr. Afridi a visa. Message: Do Not Help the USA Against the Umma.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 21, 2017 10:42 PM (Ndje9)
This has not changed, indeed our enemies have gotten worse while we screwed around nation building under Bush and arming terrorists from the looted armories of a dictator, under Obama, we had under control but Obama/Hillary/Rice/Power decided to topple in order to get those arms to/for the bad guys.
We need bases, larger in Iraq where we can support them by sea and smaller in Afghanistan where they will have to likely be supported by air and so Spec-ops ones. Both their governments can be anything as long as they don't support our enemies and are fairly stable.
Posted by: geoffb5 at August 21, 2017 10:51 PM (zOpu5)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 21, 2017 10:27 PM (tbOMB)
Done, I've saved the links.
Thank you all for your help.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 21, 2017 10:53 PM (Ri/rl)
re: Dr. Afridi: He's still in prison.
Obama wanted to prosecute Dr. Mitchell and Co. for waterboarding.
but knew it would blow up in his face. Instead, he took credit for
Mitchell's work in finding bin Laden while grandstanding against him.
Pakistani Dr. Afridi also worked with us to find bin Laden. But
Obama denied Dr. Afridi a visa. Message: Do Not Help the USA Against the
Umma.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 21, 2017 10:42 PM (Ndje9)
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Thanks, I wondered what happened to him. Obama always treated America's enemies better than America's friends.
Posted by: zmdavid at August 21, 2017 11:33 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Corona at August 22, 2017 12:45 AM (iHfWH)
Fucking pure unadulterated hypocrisy.
The one thing I can absolutely guarantee is that no military aged kids of Trump will be serving in this shithole. Probably got bone spurs too
Posted by: Hypocrite thy name is Trump at August 22, 2017 03:31 AM (dU49o)
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