FoxNews Reporter Doug McKelway: Source Says Cops Were Ordered to Make No Arrests Without Explicit Prior Approval of Mayor; Police Evacuated Site Because it Was "Too Dangerous"

His reportage, briefly:

* "We have learned from a senior law enforcement source from other county, who was here [in Charlottesville]... that officers were instructed to make no arrests without the explicit approval of the Charlottesville mayor. Our law enforcement source says that he was outraged by that instruction."

The Charlottesville chief of police categorically denied this.

* However, McKelway says: "I can say, havig been in Emancipation Park from early on that morning, that what I saw with my own two eyes confirms what this law enforcement source told us. At least from all visible apearances. We saw people coming out of that park who had headwounds, who were bleeding from the head, people walking into that park with bats, with sticks -- you saw what they were wearing -- helmets, body armor, they had come -- and this pertains to both sides -- they had come to do damage.. you cannot help but notice from that video that police had been more pro-active, they could have potentially calmed this thing down to some degree."

* He was told during the day that if reporters had to, they could retreat to the police staging area. However, when protesters began throwing tear gas and the reporter tried to take shelter in the staging area, he was told he could not come in, the police said "No, don't come in here... we're leaving. It's too dangerous."

He says you can see the police "filing out of there, single fire, and making a beeline out of there." The chief of police says they were "making a retreat" to put on riot gear, but the reporter wants to know that having seen people with bats and armor, why were they not already wearing riot armor?

Conclusion: Once again, a liberal mayor gives progressive shock troops Space to Destroy and orders police to stand down and allow them to beat the shit out of people #ForPeace.

By the way, the Charlottesville Chief of Police made this racist statement:

Charlotttesville police chief says there were "mutually combative individuals" referring to both sides present at violent protests.
— Marina Marraco (@MarinaMarraco) August 14, 2017

That's racist, because, see, the media told me that when Trump said there was violence on "many sides" that was racist.

And when I say 'The media," I expressly include the "conservative" media, who is making sure their liberal friends, corporate donors, and future employers know that they would never say something so racist like "Antifa is violence and beats the shit out of people with tacit approval of liberal city's police forces."

Posted by: Ace at 05:04 PM

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1 Too depressed and bored about this non-event to even say "First."

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 04:52 PM (DQ4Fv)

2 trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 04:53 PM (kwCTJ)

3 It is over.

Burn it down. All of it.
Scatter the stones so no two stones lay on top of each other.
Salt the earth.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 04:53 PM (jxbfJ)

4 I'll get right on this as soon as I'm done pleasuring my flesh light while watching a video of myself shouting at the president.

Posted by: Jim Acosta at August 14, 2017 04:54 PM (SkuXa)

5 and to think we're still getting ratcheted up the coaster for the first really big drop . . .

Posted by: Bored383 at August 14, 2017 04:55 PM (70HTk)

6 Trump fucked up with today's statement.

He should have stuck to what he said the other day, blaming both sides.

When will our people ever learn that you can't appease the media with apologies and "clarifications".

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2017 04:55 PM (Zs4uk)

7

Hillary +4 in Pennsylvania

Posted by: CNN at August 14, 2017 04:55 PM (kwCTJ)

8 Am I the only one that notices the difference in the coverage between this act and the guy that killed 5 police officers in Dallas?

I don't think the media were this upset about Steve Scalise.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 14, 2017 04:55 PM (Ri/rl)

9 Trying to pull the permit on the eve of the rally and having the Federal Court enjoin the permit-pulling is a smoking gun - they didn't get what they wanted from the Court so they just found a way around the Order.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 14, 2017 04:55 PM (NrdxS)

10 Ah... Brave Sir Robins, then...

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 04:55 PM (zSVEm)

11 The military cannot use the excuse of "hey, I was just following orders" to defend themselves. Why do cops have that right and why do Americans love making excuses for them?

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at August 14, 2017 04:56 PM (SlDR3)

12 so , i'm thinking national divorce would be nice about now. But I don't think we'd leave like in a reg divorce, with shoes and blouse on our back, that's about it.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2017 04:56 PM (FKrah)

13 Space To Destroy. What an absolutely fucked up concept.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me @ Intersectionality of Deplorable & Irredeemable at August 14, 2017 04:56 PM (Ftuf+)

14 So tell me....

how is sex during socialism better?

??

Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 04:56 PM (kwCTJ)

15 So another "protest" in another blue city. Same ol same ol. Wake me when some news happens.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at August 14, 2017 04:56 PM (zZWkn)

16 I think some people who were thee said it was 15 minutes or so between rally start and the declaration of "unlawful assembly" to arrest the rally-goers.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 14, 2017 04:56 PM (NrdxS)

17 This mayor has blood on his hands.

One group, which had a lawful permit to protest (regardless if you like what they stood for or not). Another group shows up sans permit to counter-protest. Violence ensures.

Law enforcement out in droves and sits back to watch the world burn because of instructions from the mayor.

As the days unfold and more of the real story becomes public, it will not get any prettier.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (jxbfJ)

18 He says you can see the police "filing out of there, single fire, and making a beeline out of there."

Run away! Run away!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (493sH)

19 This is easy. Charlottesville need to hire more cops.

Posted by: Some Big Gov Asshole at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (mcI77)

20 " when the dragon reared its' ugly head.."

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (zSVEm)

21 9
Trying to pull the permit on the eve of the rally and having the Federal
Court enjoin the permit-pulling is a smoking gun - they didn't get what
they wanted from the Court so they just found a way around the Order.

Posted by: Alec Leamas

That sounds about right.

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (LAe3v)

22
Speaking of fat, disgusting fucks, John Podhoretz.

That is all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (mbhDw)

23 Just more hysterical pants-wetting nonsense. Never happened. LALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (0mRoj)

24 The Left lives for moments like these.

Antifa are now national heroes.

They are doxxing everyone in sight, with glee, and are praised for doing do.

The "pushback" will be 10,000x stringer than the original offense.

Stupid neo-Nazis just ruined everything and handed the extreme left a golden ticket to mainstream acceptance.

Everything (even thoughts) even remotely non-socialist will now be banned, forbidden, outlawed and destroyed.

Too depressed to say anything else.

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (DQ4Fv)

25 Good plan.

Posted by: The Hessians at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (bc2Lc)

26 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

Anybody buying this? Any reporters who were on the scene refuting this b.s. statement?

Posted by: Jim Acosta-I am Legend at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (oFlMR)

27 These liberal mayors that told police to stand down all have one thing in common. They are all Democrats.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (mpXpK)

28 stringer = stronger

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (DQ4Fv)

29 18 He says you can see the police "filing out of there, single fire, and making a beeline out of there."

Run away! Run away!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (493sH)

Fetchez la vache.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (0mRoj)

30 22
Speaking of fat, disgusting fucks, John Podhoretz.

That is all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 04:57 PM (mbhDw)

Temporizing, or flat out collusion, JJ??

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (zSVEm)

31
At what point do policemen disobey immoral and/or illegal orders from their superiors?

I guess when the answer is when they don't feel their jobs, pensions and lives are not at risk.

Wow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (mbhDw)

32 >>>Speaking of fat, disgusting fucks, John Podhoretz.

Major talent. Totally did not create painful awkward silence with his machinegun non-jokes when the staff of Red Eye did him a favor and allowed him to be on tv despite being ugly and hugely fat and also not funny.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 04:59 PM (8rNrN)

33 They are just no matter what they do
burn loot, murder othe rpeople, murder cops.
and police watch because ? orders or They (left) with political help have created and environment of insanity , where everything for them goes Their way.

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2017 04:59 PM (FKrah)

34 Once again, a liberal mayor gives progressive shock troops Space to Destroy and orders police to stand down and allow them to beat the shit out of people #ForPeace

But it's fighting hate with violence so it isn't done with hate so it's totes okay

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 04:59 PM (493sH)

35 Seattle Seahawks Player Michael Bennett Says He Will Sit Out National Anthem All Season

Pretty amazing trigger discipline it that's true.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 04:59 PM (QQ+il)

36 I don't have any doubt that the mayor, a far left Obama drone, allowed this thing to escalate. I also have no doubt it will never be reported on.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 04:59 PM (/tuJf)

37 30
Temporizing, or flat out collusion, JJ??
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (zSVEm)

His piece I linked to from today's NY Post is just disgusting. Uses Charlottesville to double and triple down on his Trump hate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 04:59 PM (mbhDw)

38 Did the Governor of Virginia, Mayor or Chartlottesville and the Chief of Police conspire to deny the legal protesters of their civil rights by withholding police protection to uphold their First Amendment rights?

Posted by: jwest at August 14, 2017 05:00 PM (Zs4uk)

39 The idiot troll (whoreson) claimed that the antifas had permits and the Unite crowd didn't - not that I believe a single word he says, but does anyone know who's pushing that line and what they pretend to base it on?

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 14, 2017 05:00 PM (eXSOZ)

40 well that cut & paste went poorly

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 05:00 PM (QQ+il)

41 I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THIS, BUT WHEN I DO IT WILL BE ALL SHOUTY !

Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBURGER at August 14, 2017 05:00 PM (kwCTJ)

42 Antifa are now national heroes.

Perhaps. But even if they are, which I doubt, they'll overplay their hand like they always do.

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 05:00 PM (LAe3v)

43 Jim Acosta should have my job.

Posted by: J. Sessions at August 14, 2017 05:00 PM (mcI77)

44 None of this would've happened if Jim Acosta was there.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (O5Q3r)

45 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

Pretty amazing trigger discipline it that's true.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (QQ+il)

46 41 I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THIS, BUT WHEN I DO IT WILL BE ALL SHOUTY !
Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBURGER at August 14, 2017 05:00 PM (kwCTJ)

THAT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WHEN I DO IT, IT HAS GRAVITAS!

- - JIM ACOSTA!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (mbhDw)

47 I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THIS, BUT WHEN I DO, IT WILL BE ALL SHOUTY !

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NOW WITH BETTTER PUNCTUATION !!

Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBURGER at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (kwCTJ)

48 What they really needed were more female cops working. It's been proven in many studies that female cops handle riots better than male counterparts because they can immediately take physical control of rioters and shut things down. A few midget cops would have helped the situation, too.

Of course, given stand-down orders it still wouldn't have mattered how many superior female cops or helpful midget cops were there. Cops on stand-down pretty much all perform about the same ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (rZ+mb)

49 Query:

The dead female. Was she wearing a mask? Was she carrying any kind of weapon? What was she doing when she was run over? What group was she a member of?

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (em7Ol)

50 The republican party is a division of the enemy force.

Posted by: Tentotwo at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (yhf6w)

51 37 30
Temporizing, or flat out collusion, JJ??
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (zSVEm)

His piece I linked to from today's NY Post is just disgusting. Uses Charlottesville to double and triple down on his Trump hate.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 04:59 PM (mbhDw)

So, elitist Prog ... won't say neocon... I fear that term is a no- go..

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (zSVEm)

52 There was a thread over the weekend about national divorce.

How many of you are ready, willing and able to move to a new location if you are stuck behind enemy lines? Even if it means leaving loved ones behind? Even if it is without a job or home?

Being in purple/blue New Hampshire, I'm facing this prospect.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (jxbfJ)

53 I just can't stomach any more of the cop hate on this site. Using facts to besmirch our brave, dauntless heroes in blue is simply beyond the pale.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (0mRoj)

54 What they really needed were more female cops working. It's been proven in many studies that female cops handle riots better than male counterparts because they can immediately take physical control of rioters and shut things down. A few midget cops would have helped the situation, too.

Trannyphobe!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (493sH)

55 NeverTrump seems to think if they take out Trump, we'll come back to them. Because Reagan, or something.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (datdl)

56 51
So, elitist Prog ... won't say neocon... I fear that term is a no- go..
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (zSVEm)

Doesn't bother me unless I'm not aware it has been co-opted by the Joo-haters.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (mbhDw)

57 Next time call out the troops if its to dangerous for the police

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (pPKG5)

58
McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

Pretty amazing trigger discipline it that's true.

They didn't kill 93 million people? Almost like the governor's...lying.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (O5Q3r)

59 10,000x stringer

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not googling that

Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (kwCTJ)

60 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

Pretty amazing trigger discipline it that's true.
Posted by: Grump28(c)

What an idiot, he is..

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (zSVEm)

61 Hey Podhoretz, you disgusting fat fuck ... hold my beer.

Posted by: David French at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (e4ZX9)

62 50 The republican party is a division of the enemy force.
Posted by: Tentotwo at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (yhf6w)

Been saying this since about 2014 midterms. Two sides, same rotten coin.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (mbhDw)

63 45 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

Pretty amazing trigger discipline it that's true.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (QQ+il)

So is that what law enforcement was doing then? Instead of watching the crowd they were counting who was carrying?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (jxbfJ)

64 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.
Posted by: Jim Acosta-I am Legend at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (oFlMR)

If that was true, they showed REMARKABLE restraint....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (7uYFy)

65 Jim Gillespie, who's the R running for VA governor this November, needs to find a way to use this. (It will be used against him). Trick is who gains the upper hand from turnout.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (+7/1f)

66 http://tinyurl.com/k8pkdgk

Posted by: Locke Common at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (olTpu)

67 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

This is easily proven or disproven. It's a John Lewis moment. It isn't like there aren't millions of pictures of the proceedings. Also, does "protesters" include both sides? I rather doubt it.

Regardless, how many people were shot?

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (LAe3v)

68 NeverTrump seems to think if they take out Trump, we'll come back to them. Because Reagan, or something.
------------------------

I can't tell whether they just like being the dog in the manger because they secretly hated a large chunk of the base all of this time, or whether they really think everyone will suddenly come to their senses and realize the wisdom of their serial engineered failures WITH HONOR TM.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (NrdxS)

69 By "protesters " throwing teargas, does that mean Antifa?

Posted by: MAGA at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (Tyk2V)

70 Charlottesville PD: We have not yet begun to fight!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (Nwg0u)

71 Its a protest march free for all

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:04 PM (pPKG5)

72 John Podhoretz.
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Like that fucker knows anything about machineguns

Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 05:04 PM (kwCTJ)

73 52 There was a thread over the weekend about national divorce.

How many of you are ready, willing and able to move to a new location if you are stuck behind enemy lines? Even if it means leaving loved ones behind? Even if it is without a job or home?

Being in purple/blue New Hampshire, I'm facing this prospect.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (jxbfJ)

Me. And it will no doubt lead to my divorce from my lib wife. Too bad, but my family has experienced totalitarian Leftists up close and personal. I'd rather not, thank you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:04 PM (mbhDw)

74 51
So, elitist Prog ... won't say neocon... I fear that term is a no- go..
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:01 PM (zSVEm)

Doesn't bother me unless I'm not aware it has been co-opted by the Joo-haters.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (mbhDw)

Yeah... I'm searching for a good alternative (alt, get it?) term for Neocon...
open to suggestions from anyone..

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:04 PM (zSVEm)

75
Somebody who's a Twitter combatant, hit Podhoretz with a "Wut dat mouf do?" next time he spews crap.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (8O3HH)

76 24 The Left lives for moments like these.

Antifa are now national heroes.

They are doxxing everyone in sight, with glee, and are praised for doing do.

The "pushback" will be 10,000x stringer than the original offense.

Stupid neo-Nazis just ruined everything and handed the extreme left a golden ticket to mainstream acceptance.

Everything (even thoughts) even remotely non-socialist will now be banned, forbidden, outlawed and destroyed.

Too depressed to say anything else.
Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 04:58 PM (DQ4Fv)

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When it comes down to beat or be beaten, I don't think I'll be giving a shit what the media says.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (Fmupd)

77 42 Antifa are now national heroes.

Perhaps. But even if they are, which I doubt, they'll overplay their hand like they always do.

Posted by: pep

Don't count on it.

Former extremist paramilitary groups frequently (throughout history) graduate into viable political parties, and even take power.

Sinn Fein was once a terror cell. Now they're the majority party in Northern Ireland.

The Brown Shirts were violent street thugs. hen they took over all of Italy.

Hitler's Beer Hall buddies were basically the same as Antifa is today; and we know how far they rose in power.

The Sandanistas went from being "The Antifa of Nicaragua" to winning elections and taking over the entire country.

It can happen. Anything that legitimized them pushes us further down the road to a possible totalitarian future.

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (DQ4Fv)

78 Added:

What are the odds that they didn't/won't call out the National Guard because Antifa would be seen engaging with those "fascists" too?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (NrdxS)

79 The alt-right organizers specifically instructed their people not to bring weapons. They emphasized over and over again in the weeks prior to the event that their plan was to engage in a non-violent rally. Doubtless some few disregarded this instruction, but it's simply not true to say, as the chief of police does above, that "both sides...had come to do damage".

And enough with the Nazi BS. A few idiots out of around 1200 came with Nazi regalia, so the media is portraying this as a Nazi event. The vast majority of people on the Dissident Right are not Nazis, have never been Nazis, and think that LARPing as a mid-20th century failed European nationalist ideology is about just stupid. By all means, disagree with the alt-right all you want, but be sure you're disagreeing with their actual arguments, not the media's lies.

Posted by: Murray at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (lnL+g)

80 First they came for the Nazis...then they came for me.

Nazis are bad people, but they have not had a nation state to wreck havoc since 1945. Communists have had many and still do. They have also infiltrated academia, media, entertainment, and based on Google twitter profiles they have even infiltrated American corporations.

Bizarre as it may sound can you image an employee of a major American corporation proudly boasting about Nazism on their twitter profile and yet keeping their job? Yet you can if you boast about Communism.

That is why Communists (aka Cultural Marxist, etc.) are a far greater danger to our liberty. They have been normalized by the culture, Nazis are not.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (MuTTO)

81 I wish PDT had mentioned unrepentant Nazi collaborator and convicted felon George Soros supporting violent extremists in Charlottesville as a cause of the rioting and deaths.

Posted by: Buck Ofama at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (pCPDc)

82 "mutually combative individuals"

Yeah, some 'assisted living escapee' with a rolled up flag of indeterminate nature vs. a ripped and muscled and masked black dude with a flaming aerosol can...

http://tinyurl.com/AssholeWaspSpray

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (EgwCt)

83 What did Trump do to Podhoretz? Seriously? Is he jealous of Jared or something --perhaps because Ivanka?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 14, 2017 05:06 PM (7uYFy)

84 I'm thinking of changing my opinion, its Eboni Williams who needs a spanking

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:06 PM (pPKG5)

85 If only Krispie Kreme hadn't had that two-for-one sale.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 14, 2017 05:06 PM (Nwg0u)

86 52 There was a thread over the weekend about national divorce.

How many of you are ready, willing and able to move to a new location if you are stuck behind enemy lines? Even if it means leaving loved ones behind? Even if it is without a job or home?

Being in purple/blue New Hampshire, I'm facing this prospect.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (jxbfJ)

Already have...

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:06 PM (zSVEm)

87 One great thing about midget cops is that during a riot, they can be sent in by trebuchet.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 14, 2017 05:06 PM (Mouru)

88 The ACLU of VA (notorious right wing group) said something similar (though not quite the same.) I forget exactly how it was phrased but basically it was "we [cops] were told not to intervene unless given an order."

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:07 PM (dzmBR)

89 One great thing about midget cops is that during a riot, they can be sent in by trebuchet.

Bowl them right into the rioter's legs.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 05:07 PM (QQ+il)

90 This whole thing is classic Agitprop.
Scripted to a T.

Posted by: navybrat at August 14, 2017 05:07 PM (w7KSn)

91 There was a thread over the weekend about national divorce.

How many of you are ready, willing and able to move to a new location if you are stuck behind enemy lines?
==========
Just where exactly do you see the geographic line demarcated? Why do you imagine that any place you move to won't be the same sh!+ with a different zip code. Even parts of TEXAS are screwed up. Before you "move" don't you want to know that the move is going to be to someplace that won't be just as bad? PS - let me know if you are married and have young kids, vs single and picking up stakes and moving is no big shakes . . .

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:07 PM (NqYjJ)

92 How many of you are ready, willing and able to move to a new location if you are stuck behind enemy lines? Even if it means leaving loved ones behind? Even if it is without a job or home?

Being in purple/blue New Hampshire, I'm facing this prospect.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

I'm in Alabama. On one hand, deep red, on the other hand, demographics could do odd things...

That said, there isn't much left for me here now. If I ever get my payout, I'd be able to load up a truck and be gone in a weekend. And I may actually do that regardless, if I can find better work elsewhere.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (AM1GF)

93 80
Cultural Marxists get cultural helicopter rides.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (fA1SL)

94 "..........people walking into that park with bats, with sticks -- you saw what they were wearing -- helmets, body armor............"

-------------------------------------------

Maybe they were just catchers going to batting practice. It could happen.

Posted by: Javems at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (yOqwj)

95 zombie, et tu?

"Stupid neo-Nazis just ruined everything and handed the extreme left a golden ticket to mainstream acceptance"

So you somehow know the "neo-Nazis" were mostly to blame here? They started it? Cool, let us in on the info.

Where have you been? The extreme left has a pre-printed annual pass to "mainstream acceptance" - well, not really. Outside the dumbest, least American parts of the country (such as your area), the extreme left, when violent, makes no mileage or friends ..... yet.

So were the many, many different groups of non-racists/non-fascists attacked in the last year by the racist authoritarians the problem? Or were the attackers the problem?

Guess the key thing now is to make sure nobody other than racists, race-baiters, and fascists publicly demonstrate - they'll be safe from their brethren in BLM et al. The heckler's veto has become the brownshirts' lock-down.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (QDnY+)

96 Baltimore, Part Deux.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (PY9jH)

97 81 I wish PDT had mentioned unrepentant Nazi collaborator and convicted felon George Soros supporting violent extremists in Charlottesville as a cause of the rioting and deaths.

Ivanka would not like that.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (mcI77)

98 74
Yeah... I'm searching for a good alternative (alt, get it?) term for Neocon...
open to suggestions from anyone..
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:04 PM (zSVEm)

Pseudo-con.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (mbhDw)

99 Ah here we go, link to a tweet:
https://twitter.com/ACLUVA/status/896386562484731904

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (dzmBR)

100 If there is a national divorce, I get dibs on Kate Upton

I could give a shit about her lightbulb banning uncle

Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (kwCTJ)

101 The Lef hates Nazis...except when they don't

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/272787/

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (rmVvL)

102 zzzzzZZZZzzzz

Posted by: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (QQ+il)

103 Just then, God showed up.

I'm really hoping it's soon.

Posted by: Strobe at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (gbWkA)

104 "61 Hey Podhoretz, you disgusting fat fuck ... hold my beer.
Posted by: David French"

French's wife is cute in a naughty librarian kind of way. Too bad he is going the McMuffin route. Must be bald solidarity.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (OD2ni)

105 The Left pretty much has cart blanche to do this over and over. Essentially the right will not be able publicly assemble. No problem, though, as this is just a 1st Amendment right.

Posted by: MAGA at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (Tyk2V)

106 This whole thing is classic Agitprop.
Scripted to a T.
Posted by: navybrat at August 14, 2017 05:07 PM (w7KSn)

I'm starting to believe this-which is why I'm not mad at Trump for denouncing the KKK and other racist elements.
I think the truth is going to slowly seep out and Antifa is going to be exposed.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (7uYFy)

107 Me. And it will no doubt lead to my divorce from my lib wife. Too bad, but my family has experienced totalitarian Leftists up close and personal. I'd rather not, thank you.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:04 PM (mbhDw)
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No, no, take her with you, JJ. Marriage trumps politics. You can probably convert her if you can get her away from her fellow travelers, anyway.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (UoSKV)

108 Also, you can thank NeverTrump for elevating the Alt-Right in the first place.

They constantly retweeted their attacks and trolls, writing piece after piece linking Trump to their bullshit and generally propping them up to better posture about how awful Trump and supporters were.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (datdl)

109 Weaselzippers has a story Jacksonville Florida is the next pondering removing all Confederate monuments

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (pPKG5)

110 Well it sounds official: Cville PD are pigs and the enemy.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:10 PM (qOW8P)

111

Charlottesville: The Oakland of the East.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:10 PM (mbhDw)

112 98 74
Yeah... I'm searching for a good alternative (alt, get it?) term for Neocon...
open to suggestions from anyone..
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:04 PM (zSVEm)

Pseudo-con.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (mbhDw)

Pretty good... sounds a little bit like a psoriasis medicine though...

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:10 PM (zSVEm)

113 Your history is being erased. In a decade or two you will be a minority in your own country. Your descendants will be vilified for being white.

Ready to choose sides yet?

Posted by: The Spelling Police at August 14, 2017 05:10 PM (CrJzY)

114 Guys, I just made this joke up:

How does Hitler tie his shoes?

In little Nazis!!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at August 14, 2017 05:10 PM (OD2ni)

115 112. Conmen?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (fA1SL)

116 107 No, no, take her with you, JJ. Marriage trumps politics. You can probably convert her if you can get her away from her fellow travelers, anyway.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (UoSKV)

I can't take her with if she won't go. And she won't.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (mbhDw)

117 109 Weaselzippers has a story Jacksonville Florida is the next pondering removing all Confederate monuments
Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (pPKG5)

Do you live in Jacksonville? If not, shut up. You have no right to object.

/sarc

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (0mRoj)

118 >>>Jim Gillespie, who's the R running for VA governor this November,

Ed?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (ZjR82)

119 112
Pretty good... sounds a little bit like a psoriasis medicine though...
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:10 PM (zSVEm)

Cheap Trick played there in '78. Oh, wait a second....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (mbhDw)

120 It's possible to have "alt-right" demonstrations in places like California without actual Nazis showing up to irrevocably contaminate the proceedings. But in the South, they have actual neo-Nazi types in sufficient numbers that they come out of the woodwork more easily, so it's a much greater risk to have a demonstration there.

I wrote an essay back around 2005 saying essentially that "Protest are almost ALWAYS a terrible idea, because all they do is make your side (whatever side you may be) look bad, and will tar you forever with the most unsavory person who shows up at your protest. Best solution: Don't do protests. They only ever backfire."

I stand by that essay,

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (DQ4Fv)

121 Protest are = Protests are

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (DQ4Fv)

122 Did the Governor of Virginia, Mayor or Chartlottesville and the Chief of
Police conspire to deny the legal protesters of their civil rights by
withholding police protection to uphold their First Amendment rights?
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I supposed you could ask the conservatives beaten at the Trump rallies if that happened in their case.

Or perhaps the conservatives beaten in Berkley; that might have happened in their case as well.

But I'm pretty sure it's 110% legal for police to withhold their services when they are forced to protect groups that their Political Masters do not agree with.

/police protection for some, not for others.

Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (aT+Bx)

123 Something about Democratic Mayors and rioters just doesn't seem to want to lead to an effective plan.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (J+eG2)

124 remember Bloomberg's group of mayors who were criminals and part of his anti-gun squad?

would be interesting to see a list of mayors and folks on the local level who could be part of this Marxist totalitarian bullshit.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (XFue2)

125 Me. And it will no doubt lead to my divorce from my lib wife. Too bad, but my family has experienced totalitarian Leftists up close and personal. I'd rather not, thank you.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:04 PM (mbhDw)

I'd like to get an update from Moron X as far as if he was able to work out some kind of compromise with his wife.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (qOW8P)

126 119 112
Pretty good... sounds a little bit like a psoriasis medicine though...
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:10 PM (zSVEm)

Cheap Trick played there in '78. Oh, wait a second....
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (mbhDw)

Heh heh..

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (zSVEm)

127 that shit started in Philly under Mayor Street. Union thugs would skate after publicly assaulting anti-gov. protesters.

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (g+Dix)

128 This just in: the Charlottesville PD will represent the US in the Olympic sprinting comprtition.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (Nwg0u)

129 I can't take her with if she won't go. And she won't.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (mbhDw)
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Well, of course I hope it never comes to that. But if it does, I hope she will change her mind. She's got a treasure; I hope she knows it.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 05:13 PM (UoSKV)

130 But in the South, they have actual neo-Nazi types in sufficient numbers that they come out of the woodwork more easily, so it's a much greater risk to have a demonstration there.

Nonsense.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 05:13 PM (QQ+il)

131 Weaselzippers has a story Jacksonville Florida is the next pondering removing all Confederate monuments
This would be the same Jacksonville that was the cradle of so much Southern rock - .38 Special, Lynryd Skynryd, Molly Hatchet, Blackfoot...

I'm sure that will go over well.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 14, 2017 05:13 PM (eXSOZ)

132 Bannon was a target all weekend, even before the Idiot Driver Incident. Because he's alt-right don't you know.

Bannon wants to draw Black and Brown Deplorables into a re-branded R tent. He's been quite clear and open about it. Can't have that.

Ivanka and Tony the Mooch were complicit. Ivanka even front-ran her dad with tweets. Someone needs a spanking.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2017 05:13 PM (+7/1f)

133 69 By "protesters " throwing teargas, does that mean Antifa?

Posted by: MAGA at August 14, 2017 05:03 PM (Tyk2V)

++++

Good question. The msm seems to be calling the Unite crowd the protesters and the Antifa crowd are the counter-protesters. But, it is all fuzzy.

BTW, counter-protesters makes me think of counter-revolutionaries, but I doubt that is the allegory that the msm is going for.

Posted by: Jim Acosta at August 14, 2017 05:13 PM (pvjTE)

134 It can happen. Anything that legitimized them pushes us further down the road to a possible totalitarian future.
Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (DQ4Fv)

All those circumstances you mentioned were places that had been devastated by years of neglect, corruption, and/or war.

We're not there yet. This group would need a power vacuum into which to insert itself.

In the greatest dream of the rabid left, I don't see them clawing their way to legitimacy.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2017 05:13 PM (TOk1P)

135 Well I came upon a child of Marx
He was walking along the road
And I asked him where he was going
And this he told me

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (pPKG5)

136 Ersatz --Con, NeoRight, CenterRight,

Posted by: JoeF. at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (7uYFy)

137 But I'm pretty sure it's 110% legal for police to withhold their services when they are forced to protect groups that their Political Masters do not agree with.

/police protection for some, not for others.
Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:12 PM (aT+Bx)

The persons beaten have no legal recourse against the police for standing idly by while they get beaten.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (0mRoj)

138 /sock

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (pvjTE)

139 Nazis are bad people, but they have not had a nation state to wreck
havoc since 1945. Communists have had many and still do. They have also
infiltrated academia, media, entertainment, and based on Google twitter
profiles they have even infiltrated American corporations.
------------------------------------------------------

I doubt there were many, if any, literal NAZIs who subscribe to the ideology and program. They're most likely just frustrated people who are picking the iconography of the all-time baddies who scare the left/the left obsesses over.

Biker gangs have done similar - it's more Ozzy Ozbourne Prince of Darkness schtick than actual, ideologically committed NAZIs.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (NrdxS)

140 I wrote an essay back around 2005 saying essentially that "Protest are almost ALWAYS a terrible idea, because all they do is make your side (whatever side you may be) look bad, and will tar you forever with the most unsavory person who shows up at your protest. Best solution: Don't do protests. They only ever backfire."

I stand by that essay,

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (DQ4Fv)

They called the TEA Party racists and Nazis just because. Our side will always be Nazis and portrayed that way by the MFM. It could be a march for Mother Theresa and the left would call it Nazis

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (493sH)

141 I can't take her with if she won't go. And she won't.
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She needs a good spanking.

Spankings all around!!!

Posted by: zoot at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (aY6Az)

142 Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

By LINDA GREENHOUSE JUNE 28, 2005

WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado. The appeals court had permitted a lawsuit to proceed against a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman's pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (e8kgV)

143 There's a very old Civil War monument in a park here, that was paid for by Confederate widows.

I'm waiting for the screeching about tearing it down. Of course, there's a "lovely" statue of slaves on River Street, with a cheerful poem by Maya Angelou.

It seems that every single day new "slave" tours are popping up here. Gotta keep the racism and anger racheted up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (PY9jH)

144 120 It's possible to have "alt-right" demonstrations in places like California without actual Nazis showing up to irrevocably contaminate the proceedings. But in the South, they have actual neo-Nazi types in sufficient numbers that they come out of the woodwork more easily, so it's a much greater risk to have a demonstration there.

I wrote an essay back around 2005 saying essentially that "Protest are almost ALWAYS a terrible idea, because all they do is make your side (whatever side you may be) look bad, and will tar you forever with the most unsavory person who shows up at your protest. Best solution: Don't do protests. They only ever backfire."

I stand by that essay,
Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (DQ4Fv)

what are your thoughts on going Galt? Or a national strike?

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (XFue2)

145 When I put my finger in my butt, it smells like a fart

Posted by: Jim Acosta at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (kwCTJ)

146 It's too dangerous."

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This is about my genitals isn't it?

Posted by: S at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (drU0K)

147 60 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

Pretty amazing trigger discipline it that's true.
Posted by: Grump28(c)

What an idiot, he is..
Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:02 PM (zSVEm)

You misspelled "liar".

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (xjiRE)

148 Governor McAuliffe: He won't protect you and he won't let you protect yourself.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (Nwg0u)

149 91 There was a thread over the weekend about national divorce.

How many of you are ready, willing and able to move to a new location if you are stuck behind enemy lines?
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Just where exactly do you see the geographic line demarcated? Why do you imagine that any place you move to won't be the same sh!+ with a different zip code. Even parts of TEXAS are screwed up. Before you "move" don't you want to know that the move is going to be to someplace that won't be just as bad? PS - let me know if you are married and have young kids, vs single and picking up stakes and moving is no big shakes . . .
Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:07 PM (NqYjJ)

Certainly anywhere near a metropolitan area is a bad move. While living in NH, I'm close enough to the Mass. border to have a front row seat to an invasion of massholes.

Certainly can't go back to where I was down south 20 years ago. Charlotte, NC has gone full libtard.

But for those of us behind enemy lines, the possibility exists where a choice will need to be made. Stay put (at great risk, or assimiliate). Or bug out. Each person has to make their choice based on their situation.

But I'm not going to bend the knee.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (jxbfJ)

150
If they erase all mention of the Civil War, and the hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides then they will shut the f__k up about reparations, is that right?

Because I don't think that's the game plan. I have a feeling the brightest bulbs in the bunch aren't behind the scenes pulling the strings.

Soros. It all comes back to him.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (EgwCt)

151 Mutually combative individuals.

Assault me and you will see combat. Sorry.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (U76Nz)

152 I could swear everything going on is an exact replay of Argentina, Venezuela, Ukraine, Balkans etc.
Are the media and regional pols all so stupid and short sighted that they don't realize that now is the only chance we get to stop real extreme bloodshed?
Jeebus on a cracker.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (B9t7n)

153 Jim Acosta

Posted by: S at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (drU0K)

154 Castle Rock v. Gonzales, No. 04-278

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (e8kgV)

155 The left, the resist knucklheads, want very badly, to have a rerun of the summer of 1965, with cities burning, rioters sticking daisies in the guns of police (I guess the silly string I saw in Seattle last night is the equivalent).

It is all planned. The death of that girl was not planned, but they have wanted the violence to spill over. They got what they wanted.

Stop the madness. Stay home. Ignore the media reports as they are freaking lies...along with the social media yesterday identifying the wrong family currently owning car. How would you feel if your son was wrongly accused?

It is all for politcal points by the left. I am certain of this with the violence and resist purple tie crap. ignore. They want you to fight back. Let them fight themselves.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 14, 2017 05:15 PM (J5mzk)

156 But in the South, they have actual neo-Nazi types in sufficient numbers that they come out of the woodwork more easily, so it's a much greater risk to have a demonstration there.
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Nonsense.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 05:13 PM (QQ+il)

Yes, everyone knows Illinois nazis are the worst.

Posted by: Blues Bros at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (TOk1P)

157
109 Weaselzippers has a story Jacksonville Florida is the next pondering removing all Confederate monuments Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (pPKG5)

It's odd that Jacksonville has Confederate monuments at all. They provided next to zero troops for the Confederate army and no Civil War battle was fought in Florida.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (lKyWE)

158 Also, you can thank NeverTrump for elevating the Alt-Right in the first place.

They constantly retweeted their attacks and trolls, writing piece
after piece linking Trump to their bullshit and generally propping them
up to better posture about how awful Trump and supporters were.
--

Sorry, I don't believe there is an organized "alt-right," or even a real "alt-right."

Right now, I'm more likely to believe that there is a HUGE chance the guy behind the parade, a Barack Obama voter, put this group together with the intent on causing violence to discredit the Right and cause a race war.

Kind of like the things George Soros did in the Ukraine.

Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (aT+Bx)

159 >>>But I'm not going to bend the knee.

How do you do squats?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (ZjR82)

160 Maybe Jeff Sessions should get off his ass and ya know actually go after the criminal corrupt left?

Nah, way better to just go after the weed smokers! That's the real national security threat!

I am amazed at how big a pussy Sessions turned out to be. He is working in secret blah blah, I will believe that when I see Hillary in Jail.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (ZZhQQ)

161 I've had good results with chloroform

Posted by: Strobe at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (gbWkA)

162
It seems that every single day new "slave" tours are popping up here. Gotta keep the racism and anger racheted up.
===========
Its a living.

Posted by: NAACP at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (82hQP)

163 The mother of Heather Heyer, the woman killed at Charlottesville, has issued a statement thanking President Trump.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (398bZ)

164 115 112. Conmen?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (fA1SL)

Con Con... for Constitutional Conservative...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (NgKpN)

165 Neo con = Decepticon

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (1+lvt)

166 >>>The alt-right organizers specifically instructed their people not to bring weapons. They emphasized over and over again in the weeks prior to the event that their plan was to engage in a non-violent rally. Doubtless some few disregarded this instruction, but it's simply not true to say, as the chief of police does above, that "both sides...had come to do damage".

And enough with the Nazi BS. A few idiots out of around 1200 came with Nazi regalia, so the media is portraying this as a Nazi event. The vast majority of people on the Dissident Right are not Nazis, have never been Nazis, and think that LARPing as a mid-20th century failed European nationalist ideology is about just stupid. By all means, disagree with the alt-right all you want, but be sure you're disagreeing with their actual arguments, not the media's lies.
Posted by: Murray

...

I'm having a hard time with the claim that 'Sure, we routinely ally with nazis in protests, but we're not nazis ourselves, not sympathetic to it at all."

seems to me that birds of a feather flock together.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (8rNrN)

167 I condemn all media supremacists.

I especially disavow blue checkmark twitter, Jim Acosta and CNN, and "The Fox News Specialists."

>Note: Without Eric Bolling, the show should be renamed "The Special-less"

Posted by: Carlos Danger at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (fFfWq)

168
RICO Soros.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (mbhDw)

169 Echoing @91. I'm in Dallas, and it's only marginally different than Boston or NYC. BLM-loving mayor and judges (Mike Rawlings said he was more afraid of a white CCW holder than an illegal and the city council got approval from BLM for the replacement of the previous BLM-supporting chief of police). Poor infrastructure, insane fiscal mismanagement, racial virtue-signaling, and general criminal activity.

I would love to move to the country and at least put a little distance between me and the sea of blue, but I don't think my husband would do that. My plan is to stock up like a prepper and be ready to get out in an hour, zombie apocalypse style, if the SHTF. It would take some dramatic unrest to get my husband to move.

Posted by: sunny-dee at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (QAOZh)

170 The mother of Heather Heyer, the woman killed at Charlottesville, has issued a statement thanking President Trump.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (398bZ)

The left to turn on her in 3..2..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (493sH)

171 my own rule is that if an avowed white power nazi like Richard Spencer is promoting a rally, and if I expect therefore a fair percentage of the people rallying will be his white power followers, then I'm not showing up.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (8rNrN)

172 Well I see one good thing that came out of all this.....
Hum, I'll have to get back to ya on that one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (5y11N)

173 "163 The mother of Heather Heyer, the woman killed at Charlottesville, has issued a statement thanking President Trump.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed"

Very classy move by her. I can't imagine the pain.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (OD2ni)

174 Weaselzippers has a story Jacksonville Florida is the next pondering removing all Confederate monuments
This would be the same Jacksonville that was the cradle of so much Southern rock - .38 Special, Lynryd Skynryd, Molly Hatchet, Blackfoot...

I'm sure that will go over well.
Posted by: Sporkatus at August 14, 2017 05:13 PM (eXSOZ)

Without knowing anything about the place aside from the fact that a biddy moved there about 10 years ago, could it be that attitudes and demographics have sufficiently shifted to the point that politicians would be more comfortable proposing this? in other words , more voters would be "for" removal than "against."
After all, no one would have attempted this in the 70's--or even 10 years ago....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (7uYFy)

175
Potemkin-Con.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:18 PM (mbhDw)

176 Almost like those Democrat elected types want just enough violence to impose martial law.

Posted by: Sam at August 14, 2017 05:18 PM (jHN2F)

177 I am amazed at how big a pussy Sessions turned out to be. He is working in secret blah blah, I will believe that when I see Hillary in Jail.
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (ZZhQQ)

Statute of Limitations are rapidly running out on Hillary's illegalities...

Justice delayed will be Justice denied.

Posted by: Don Q. at August 14, 2017 05:18 PM (NgKpN)

178 The Allman Brothers Band also started in Jackonsville, before they made a permanent home in Macon, GA, and a second home in NYC.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2017 05:18 PM (+7/1f)

179 118
>>>Jim Gillespie, who's the R running for VA governor this November,

Ed?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

Yes. He's in the dictionary under "establishment".

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 05:18 PM (LAe3v)

180 93 80
Cultural Marxists get cultural helicopter rides.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 05:08 PM (fA1SL)

--------------------------------------------------------

They always fall for the free state owned Helicopter ride.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (MuTTO)

181 They wanted it.

They got it.

And the poor, dead woman is a incidental, fatal tragedy as the Left and the Media go to new depths to subvert the Constitution and a freely elected government.

Sedition if there ever were sedition.

Sessions get your head out of your ass.

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (oBuXO)

182 Blue Lines Don't Matter

Posted by: Under Fire at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (mcI77)

183 >>>my own rule is that if an avowed white power nazi like Richard Spencer is promoting a rally, and if I expect therefore a fair percentage of the people rallying will be his white power followers, then I'm not showing up.

Good rule.

Also, if I see swastikas, swastika tattoos, etc, it's time to call it a day and head home.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (ZjR82)

184

McLame issued a statement that the "Alt-right" attacks on HR Pufnstuf McMaster are disgraceful. Johnny boy so's your whole career

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (493sH)

185 95 zombie, et tu?

"Stupid neo-Nazis just ruined everything and handed the extreme left a golden ticket to mainstream acceptance"

So you somehow know the "neo-Nazis" were mostly to blame here? They started it? Cool, let us in on the info.

Where have you been? The extreme left has a pre-printed annual pass to "mainstream acceptance" - well, not really. Outside the dumbest, least American parts of the country (such as your area), the extreme left, when violent, makes no mileage or friends ..... yet.

So were the many, many different groups of non-racists/non-fascists attacked in the last year by the racist authoritarians the problem? Or were the attackers the problem?

Guess the key thing now is to make sure nobody other than racists, race-baiters, and fascists publicly demonstrate - they'll be safe from their brethren in BLM et al. The heckler's veto has become the brownshirts' lock-down.

Posted by: rhomboid

To address various points:

"So you somehow know the "neo-Nazis" were mostly to blame here? They started it? Cool, let us in on the info."

Of course Antifa started it. That's not the point. The point is the media bias. if you have a public protest, and ONE PERSON who shows up "on your side" but carrying a Nazi flag, then the protest totally backfired and you lost the argument. The extreme Left then has a golden ticket to commit any violence they want and no one will criticize them. Because anyione who associated with Nazis is a Nazi, and Nazis are evil.

"Guess the key thing now is to make sure nobody other than racists, race-baiters, and fascists publicly demonstrate - they'll be safe from their brethren in BLM et al. The heckler's veto has become the brownshirts' lock-down."

Yes, actually.

Street protests are a leftist strategy. They only even backfire. It's almost always a blunder to have a pubic protest.

Giving them that entire field of behavior is fine by me. it doesn't win them any sympathy or votes.

Better to be the Silent Majority.

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

186 I have seen this history already.

Does not have a happy ending.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (ifORZ)

187 But but but . . . I learned from some commenters here that the fascist violence was OK because some of the other guys had nasty-nazi flags or something. So a legitimate protest of removal of historically important, politically-incorrect statues was totally bad. Right, jackstraw @ 3:21PM on another thread? So a provocateur just has to wave an officially disapproved-of symbol in the crowd to delegitimize our side.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (7RpU3)

188 Well, if the police do not have a constitutional responsibility to protect an citizen...
And a State prevents a law abiding citizen from exercising their constitutionally recognized right to have a firearm.

Why, it's almost as if the law abiding citizen comes up on the short end with that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (J+eG2)

189 These mayors ordering the police to stand down is proof positive that the government is against us.

The enemy is inside the wire.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (5XCN6)

190 McLame issued a statement that the "Alt-right" attacks on HR Pufnstuf McMaster are disgraceful. Johnny boy so's your whole career
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (493sH)

why doesn't he have the decency to die already.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (5y11N)

191

can someone tell the dumb f*ckers that through out history white people were slaves too?

??

Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (kwCTJ)

192 McKelway makes a point to add "State Police" in the report.

Posted by: golfman at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (GFtC6)

193 109
Weaselzippers has a story Jacksonville Florida is the next pondering removing all Confederate monuments

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:09 PM (pPKG5)

Lexington, KY is next on the list. The mayor there is a Democrat. The mayor of Jacksonville is a Republican so he will not be too quick to bow to the racist SJws.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (mpXpK)

194
BREAKING:

One dead, several injured after car rams through pizzeria in France.

That fucking Trump.

H/T Breitbart

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (mbhDw)

195 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

So? BFD. I'm packing one now.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (U76Nz)

196 168
RICO Soros.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:17 PM (mbhDw)

If only we had an AG that had bigger balls than Caitlyn Jenner.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (jxbfJ)

197 But I'm not going to bend the knee.
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How do you do squats?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (ZjR82)

OMG, one of the worst things about getting "old" is having the knees not work as they're supposed to.

Really, you would have a hard time finding anyone in my general age range (mid/late middle age) healthier than I am, but simple nagging injuries from the yoot years show up, not as pain, but weakness.

Knees, ankles, elbows. Joints. It ain't right, I tells ya.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (TOk1P)

198 These mayors ordering the police to stand down is proof positive that the government is against us.

The enemy is inside the wire.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (5XCN6)

Mayors of "Cities" and cities are full of left wingers.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (5y11N)

199 188 Well, if the police do not have a constitutional responsibility to protect an citizen...
And a State prevents a law abiding citizen from exercising their constitutionally recognized right to have a firearm.

Why, it's almost as if the law abiding citizen comes up on the short end with that.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (J+eG2)

My list of institutions I trust is pretty thin, anymore..

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (zSVEm)

200 can someone tell the dumb f*ckers that through out history white people were slaves too?

??
Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (kwCTJ)

No way.

Posted by: Moses at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (GFtC6)

201
Is a racist in a car surrounded by protesters who then hears a guy smack his car with a baseball bat in reasonable fear for his life?
This may be a more than theoretical question.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (QtQaN)

202 And the poor, dead woman is a incidental, ~~fatal tragedy~~ extra bonus point for the Left.

Ask St Pancake how that works out.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (J+eG2)

203 "The mother of Heather Heyer, the woman killed at Charlottesville, has issued a statement thanking President Trump."

The Left needed a blood victim and got one. A human sacrifice, as it were.

Guarantee there was glee (and even high fives) at the MSM Saturday news desks.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (+7/1f)

204 I'm not looking forward to a Balkanized America. This will not end well.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (Ji4SI)

205 According to Gateway Pundit, the head "Right Winger" that organized the thing was former Obama supporter and Occupy Wall Streeter that changes hats when Trump ran and one.

Hmmm. If true, Krystalnacht Redux.

Posted by: oddnot is fed up at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (g1MTt)

206 McKelway makes a point to add "State Police" in the report.
=========
bc governor . . .

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:23 PM (LNcQd)

207 195 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

So? BFD. I'm packing one now.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (U76Nz)

Then why wasn't it a massacre?

After all... those evil guns should have killed HUNDREDS of people then...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 14, 2017 05:23 PM (NgKpN)

208 Of course Antifa started it. That's not the point. The point is the
media bias. if you have a public protest, and ONE PERSON who shows up
"on your side" but carrying a Nazi flag, then the protest totally
backfired and you lost the argument. The extreme Left then has a golden
ticket to commit any violence they want and no one will criticize them.
Because anyione who associated with Nazis is a Nazi, and Nazis are evil.

I was at one of the DC Tea Party rallies. I saw nothing but happy, positive people expressing their views. Yet, when it was on the news, it was the reprise of Kristallnacht.

Playing by your rules, they can, and will, shut down all legitimate protest.

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 05:23 PM (LAe3v)

209 Giving them that entire field of behavior is fine by me. it doesn't win them any sympathy or votes.

Better to be the Silent Majority.

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

They called the TEA Party racist and white supremacists. And nothing could have been further from the truth. No matter what we say or don't say we will always be Nazis. Our very existence is a threat to them and we must be eliminated

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:23 PM (493sH)

210 >>>I doubt there were many, if any, literal NAZIs who subscribe to the ideology and program. They're most likely just frustrated people who are picking the iconography of the all-time baddies who scare the left/the left obsesses over.

Biker gangs have done similar - it's more Ozzy Ozbourne Prince of Darkness schtick than actual, ideologically committed NAZIs.

...

would you claim the same of a Muslim who toted a black ISIS flag but made the case "Hey man, I'm just 'frustrated,' trotting out this symbol of Islamist terrorism; just because I wear the regalia, don't judge me bro"?

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:23 PM (8rNrN)

211 ....Of course Antifa started it. That's not the point. The point is the
media bias. if you have a public protest, and ONE PERSON who shows up
"on your side" but carrying a Nazi flag, then the protest totally
backfired and you lost the argument. The extreme Left then has a golden
ticket to commit any violence they want and no one will criticize them.
Because anyione who associated with Nazis is a Nazi, and Nazis are evil....

Well that's mighty convenient. All the Left has to do is plant one or two false flaggers and any protest by our side is automatically invalidated.

Well fuck me to tears.

And you know they will do it.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (5XCN6)

212 >>But but but . . . I learned from some commenters here that the fascist violence was OK because some of the other guys had nasty-nazi flags or something

Only if you are somehow mentally challenged and can't read.

Or perhaps you're just a garden variety retard. Either way, I said nothing of the sort.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (/tuJf)

213 Street protests will inevitably beget a Horst Wessel...

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (zSVEm)

214 Does it seem warm to anyone else or is it just me?

Posted by: The Reichstag at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (QQ+il)

215 Vice President Mike Pence not only defended President Donald Trumps response to the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, while speaking during a visit to the South American country of Colombia, but he reminded the media that there was violence among the Antifa agitators, who went there to disrupt the Unite the Right rally.

Good man MR Pence

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (5y11N)

216 Knees, ankles, elbows. Joints. It ain't right, I tells ya.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (TOk1P)

Two 450 mg turmeric capsules per day, every day. As someone who has had knee surgeries and was suffering in my right knee, taking turmeric has been a miracle. No pain. No swelling. And I can hike and do whatever I used to do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (PY9jH)

217 H/T Breitbart
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (mbhDw)

Time for common sense car reform. Stop makin' em with those things that go up.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (TOk1P)

218 If a protest can be ignored it will be(march for life), if a protest can not be ignored it will be labeled racist(tea party/trump rallies). I'm a Nazi we are all Nazis... all of us.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (zZWkn)

219 >>>>"No, don't come in here... we're leaving. It's too dangerous."
.
.
.
.This statement, if true, should give everyone on the Country pause. The Police will no longer protect you even in the middle of a friggin riot.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (0pcwX)

220 osted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (+7/1f)

Well, of course she did. She's in a hell hole of grief and wants someone to blame. Chances are her politics are the same as her daughters so who else would she blame?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (iVOAv)

221 I'm remaining hesitant to accept the MFM's label for the all the Charlottesville protesters as Nazis, largely because the MFM has a long history of mischaracterizing and outright lying about protest marches and assemblies in order to advance their agenda.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (0mRoj)

222 >>>>Sorry, I don't believe there is an organized "alt-right," or even a real "alt-right."
Right now, I'm more likely to believe that there is a HUGE chance the guy behind the parade, a Barack Obama voter, put this group together with the intent on causing violence to discredit the Right and cause a race war.
Kind of like the things George Soros did in the Ukraine.

No, it actually exists. I've known of it since at least 2013 when they wormed their way into GamerGate, long before they became a well known brand.

It's influence and power is greatly inflated by the media, NeverTrump and the Alt-Right itself the smear anyone supporting Trump.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (datdl)

223 204. REMOVE AVOCADO.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (fA1SL)

224 >>>a racist in a car

To be fair, he also pulled a knife on his wheelchair-bound mamma....he checks a lot more blocks than just "racist". Better just go with "shithead" or "asshole".

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:25 PM (ZjR82)

225 "Antifa" are not national heroes. They're still barely known. Relatively few people follow the fake news/actual developments in the country.

If - and there's a chance - they and BLM and the other perps emerge from this C'ville idiocy without the opprobrium and prosecutions they clearly deserve, then things could get sporty.

Because if they can get away with this, there's not much limit to what they might attempt. Typically they have committed their crimes only in racist/authoritarian-tinged jurisdictions (most of CA, Seattle, Portland).

Of more practical importance, electorally, will be if the disgust of normal people with the racism and race-baiting of the Dems, the MSM, the pop culture, and local govts translates into a backlash. True, the best you get out of that is just a few more GOP, which is clearly of completely unknown value any more, but still.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2017 05:25 PM (QDnY+)

226 188 Well, if the police do not have a constitutional responsibility to protect an citizen...
And a State prevents a law abiding citizen from exercising their constitutionally recognized right to have a firearm.

Why, it's almost as if the law abiding citizen comes up on the short end with that.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (J+eG2)

I go one state south (Mass.) or beyond VT -I'm looking at felony charges. If it isn't the mag capacity, it is because the firearms I own aren't on an approved list.

So yeah - citizens are on the short end of the stick.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 14, 2017 05:25 PM (jxbfJ)

227 80 First they came for the Nazis...then they came for me.

Nazis are bad people, but they have not had a nation state to wreck havoc since 1945. Communists have had many and still do. They have also infiltrated academia, media, entertainment, and based on Google twitter profiles they have even infiltrated American corporations.

Bizarre as it may sound can you image an employee of a major American corporation proudly boasting about Nazism on their twitter profile and yet keeping their job? Yet you can if you boast about Communism.

That is why Communists (aka Cultural Marxist, etc.) are a far greater danger to our liberty. They have been normalized by the culture, Nazis are not.
Posted by: William Eaton at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (MuTTO)

Yup...I have no love for Nazis or White Supremacy in any form. But I'll be damned if I'm going to let the Left use my opinions on these matters to build momentum for themselves, since it will inevitably be turned against me.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 05:25 PM (q6jjE)

228 According to Gateway Pundit, the head "Right Winger" that organized the thing was former Obama supporter and Occupy Wall Streeter that changes hats when Trump ran and one.

Hmmm. If true, Krystalnacht Redux.
============

I would have expected Soros to do a better job covering his tracks.

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:25 PM (ay11S)

229 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

So....how would they know that?

Obviously, Scumbag McAuliffe is making shit up in the interest of public calm.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 14, 2017 05:25 PM (oVJmc)

230 call me crazy, but people choose the symbols they carry; if they're carrying swastikas and iron crosses, I will take their word that they are Nazis.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (8rNrN)

231 The City pulled the permit for the Nazis, but not for the Commies, so the judge had no choice but to overrule the City. Which is just what the Democrats wanted.

I have some sympathy for the street cops. Even if they wanted to enforce the law, they get demoted or Mosby-ed. The line cops were set up for failure.

Indeed, failure was the plan. They were ordered to fail by the Democrats in charge because they wanted this riot.

#GetTrump--Yesterday, Today and Forever!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (Ndje9)

232 I'm having a hard time with the claim that 'Sure, we routinely ally with nazis in protests, but we're not nazis ourselves, not sympathetic to it at all."

seems to me that birds of a feather flock together.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (8rNrN)

++++

The various groups of the alt-right routinely rally with Nazis? Cite please. Maybe I have missed out, as I routinely ignore Nazi bs, but before this rally, what other rallies have there been comprised of Nazis and other types of alt-righters?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (FUu/Z)

233 163 The mother of Heather Heyer, the woman killed at Charlottesville, has issued a statement thanking President Trump.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (398bZ)

Anyone hear yet the dead gals political leanings?

Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (qOW8P)

234 Do we get to assault guys wearing Che shirts too?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 14, 2017 05:27 PM (QtQaN)

235 young girls stood in the middle of the chaos and took video, but cops with riot gear, guns, mace, backup ... ran away like little girls.

So what is really going on? The cops and mayor defied a court order, setup the legal protest for attack by antiFA terrorists, failed to protect and defend, and lied about their "too dangerous" excuse?

How will Sessions confront that? We'll see, but perhaps his own stand down recusal allowing Mueller's Mafia unlimited funding to terrorize a duly elected president gives us an indication.

hard times killing floor (for zombie's depression .. heh)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xth3ke4AXpE

Posted by: illiniwek at August 14, 2017 05:27 PM (7Ep0P)

236 >>>if they're carrying swastikas and iron crosses, I will take their word that they are Nazis.

Well, especially now that Lemmy's dead.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:27 PM (ZjR82)

237 >>>>
These mayors ordering the police to stand down is proof positive that the government is against us.

The enemy is inside the wire.
.
.
.OMG!!!!! Charlie is in the wire.....Broken Arrow....repeat Broken Arrow.....

Posted by: John Kerry/Dick "Sargent Rock" blumenthal at August 14, 2017 05:27 PM (0pcwX)

238 Better to be the Silent Majority.

When do we start winning then?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 05:27 PM (U76Nz)

239 215 Vice President Mike Pence not only defended President Donald Trumps response to the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, while speaking during a visit to the South American country of Colombia, but he reminded the media that there was violence among the Antifa agitators, who went there to disrupt the Unite the Right rally.

Good man MR Pence
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (5y11N)

Might want to go read Pence's actual statement...

He was saying that racism could not even be allowed in the public space...

Almost a call for censorship...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 14, 2017 05:27 PM (NgKpN)

240 so I believe we are all being played , this has been like a drum beat for a few year instigated and propogated by the last administration, the media and Progressive friends such as soros. Now they have something they are trying to pin on Trump and us.

so what's the answer?

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (FKrah)

241 Just by shear coincidence, we have had a family day at the range scheduled for several weeks now.

Mrs VIA wants to try the closet shotgun.

And Little VIA wants to play with the M-44.

Gonna be a good family day of fun and frivolity.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (J+eG2)

242 Weaselzippers has a story Jacksonville Florida is the next pondering removing all Confederate monuments

As I said earlier if we're going to erase history then let's erase it all, to include slavery and all the social bennies that come with it. How do you think the left would like that?

The Left shouldn't get to pick and choose what the law is and isn't. And if we let them then it's all over.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (5XCN6)

243 Knees, ankles, elbows. Joints. It ain't right, I tells ya.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2017 05:21 PM (TOk1P)

Two 450 mg turmeric capsules per day, every day. As someone who has had knee surgeries and was suffering in my right knee, taking turmeric has been a miracle. No pain. No swelling. And I can hike and do whatever I used to do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (PY9jH)

I'm generally anti-pill in all but extreme circumstances. Since I live pain-free, I would never take anything for it. Especially since my only problem is trying to get up from the floor when my knees are bent. Which I generally avoid doing in the first place.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (TOk1P)

244 Mayor Signer.
Clearly a graduate of the Ray Nagin School of Mayoring.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (0tfLf)

245 JJS said this am that John Podhoretz was quick to let his NeverTrump freak flag fly, a stance he swore he dropped a few months back.

I dunno how strong his re-re-reversal was, as I refused to read his latest drivel droppings at the NY Post. But it is instructive for one reason -- Once a NeverTrump er...

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (6jaju)

246 @Country Boy, CNN is reporting that she "died fighting for what she believed in," so she was an antifa/BLM supporter.

Posted by: sunny-dee at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (QAOZh)

247 call me crazy, but people choose the symbols they carry; if they're carrying swastikas and iron crosses, I will take their word that they are Nazis.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (8rNrN)

Yup and worse than that, they make it easy for the left and the MSM to paint us all with that broad brush.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (5y11N)

248 It can happen. Anything that legitimized them pushes us further down the road to a possible totalitarian future.

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (DQ4Fv)

So how would one avoid that possibility? What could have been done to stop Hitler, that didn't entail opposing him and his followers with violence? Will voting for Jeb Bush in 2020 get the job done?

Posted by: DFCtomm at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (50gG9)

249
Had a guy at my college radio station who had the voice of James Earl Jones but the intelligence of a soap dish. He pronounced neo-nazi on the air as "neo-naze-eyes."

Ugh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (mbhDw)

250 >>>The various groups of the alt-right routinely rally with Nazis? Cite please. Maybe I have missed out, as I routinely ignore Nazi bs, but before this rally, what other rallies have there been comprised of Nazis and other types of alt-righters?

well maybe I shouldn't have said routinely. But spencer was a promoter of this particular rally, and it even included a torch parade. (Very on-the-nose, no?)

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (8rNrN)

251 Reading Mayor Singer's past associations tells a lot about him. He has worked with John Podesta for BO's National Security transition team, both Clintons, John Edward's quest for the Presidency, Terry Mc Aullife, and Tim Kaine. Are we surprised?

Posted by: Cheri at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (oiNtH)

252 200 can someone tell the dumb f*ckers that through out history white people were slaves too?

??
Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 05:20 PM (kwCTJ)

No way.

The hell you say
Posted by: Moses at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (GFtC6)

Posted by: The Irish at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (jxbfJ)

253 232. The Traditionalist workers party guys were there. They're legit natsoc. Of course, they number a few hundred at most. They were in that riot that Felarca and BAMN were mixed up in.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (fA1SL)

254
Two 450 mg turmeric capsules per day, every day.
As someone who has had knee surgeries and was suffering in my right
knee, taking turmeric has been a miracle. No pain. No swelling. And I
can hike and do whatever I used to do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

So, aside from going through life a bright yellow, no side effects?

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (LAe3v)

255 I doubt there were many, if any, literal NAZIs who subscribe to the ideology and program. They're most likely just frustrated people who are picking the iconography of the all-time baddies who scare the left/the left obsesses over.

Biker gangs have done similar - it's more Ozzy Ozbourne Prince of Darkness schtick than actual, ideologically committed NAZIs.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 14, 2017 05:14 PM (NrdxS)

-------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps, but there are better things to scare Communists. The American flag for one...probably because they actually lost to them, unlike the Nazis.

Any patriotic symbol from the founding of the nation will sent the communist left into a frenzy as well.

Which is important to note: Antifa and Co. react just as badly to the American flag and Gadsden Flag as the Nazi flag. Which is why if you are planning on making Antifa and Democrats look bad...show up with the American flag.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (MuTTO)

256 Richard Spencer is controlled oppo acting as a Nazi. To appear anywhere publically with this guy means you are either one of the above and probably a fucking idiot.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (XFue2)

257 The Left needed a blood victim and got one. A human sacrifice, as it were.

Guarantee there was glee (and even high fives) at the MSM Saturday news desks.
Posted by: Ignoramus

Also, the Charlottesville Mayor. He manufactured a crisis and he got one. As planned.

222:Right now, I'm more likely to believe that there is a HUGE chance the guy behind the parade, a Barack Obama voter, put this group together with the intent on causing violence to discredit the Right and cause a race war.
Kind of like the things George Soros did in the Ukraine.

They are blazing the path that one of the first SJWs did. Charles Manson would be pleased.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (Ji4SI)

258 so when the protesters were labeled Nazi's, how many of them believed in national socialism, or any sort of socialism

The future belong to those who can pin the label Nazi against their opponent first

If the black panthers can stomp around and shout black power!, I can at some level get the impulse for whites to do the same

meanwhile the fact that western culture is so superior to everything else means I think the white power dudes are barking up the wrong tree

Posted by: original jake at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (kwCTJ)

259 The Reichtards are Fake Right. Their claim to be the One True Alt-Right is totally laughable, as they are pro-EU, pro-single payer health insurance socialists. Punching them is punching Left.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/08/
stupidity-is-no-substitute-for-strategy.html

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (FUu/Z)

260 95% of the USA and the world in general have no fucks to give about this bullshit.

Posted by: Karmic Justice at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (mJ+j4)

261
Podhoretz in today's NY Post:

http://nypost.com/2017/08/14/charlottesville-is-why-im-glad-i-dont-support-trump/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (mbhDw)

262 look, why would they just come up with a statue , they won the last round with Halley? was it, and so they continued with antifa -blam etc thrown in.

they seem to move easily city to city , one protest after another.
They can't all be rich kids and Who are their leaders and how are they financing travel?

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (FKrah)

263 I cannot believe that the entire city of Charlottesville is leftist or people from towns nearby all are. Yes, I know it's a university town but even university towns have people who are not leftist

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (iVOAv)

264 230 call me crazy, but people choose the symbols they carry; if they're carrying swastikas and iron crosses, I will take their word that they are Nazis.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (8rNrN)

Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (CPk08)

265 I think people make the mistake of lumping in the lulzy 4-chan Pepe guys with the Alt-Right. They're not the same thing. There is some overlap, but not the same group.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (datdl)

266 Had a guy at my college radio station who had the voice of James Earl Jones but the intelligence of a soap dish. He pronounced neo-nazi on the air as "neo-naze-eyes."

Ugh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (mbhDw)

Franz Liebkind: We're were not Nawzees. We were Nazis!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (493sH)

267 Yes, I know it's a university town but even university towns have people who are not leftist
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (iVOAv)

Your eyes must be better than mine?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (5y11N)

268 203 . I don't know about Gaslight Media, but C'ville mayor sounded absolutely triumphant when announcing the casualties.

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (g+Dix)

269 >>>Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone.

I assume this is ironic.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (8rNrN)

270 So, aside from going through life a bright yellow, no side effects?

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 05:29 PM (LAe3v)

I've been taking it for several years. Last time I checked my skin is still white, and no, there are no side effects. It's a natural anti-inflammatory.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (PY9jH)

271 It's pronounced "nah-zee" !

Posted by: Zombie Winston Churchill at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (+7/1f)

272 24,

"Stupid neo-Nazis just ruined everything and handed the extreme left a golden ticket to mainstream acceptance."

Stupid?, Yes. Also infiltrated right up to the brim by FBI and other State and local agencies. I'd expect that there are some agent provocateurs working in all groups that went there.

Posted by: geoffb5 at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (d3wbb)

273 80% of protesters carrying semi-autos? the other 20% had revolvers?

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (7RpU3)

274 Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (CPk0

That's a joke right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (5y11N)

275 would you claim the same of a Muslim who toted a black ISIS flag but made the case "Hey man, I'm just 'frustrated,' trotting out this symbol of Islamist terrorism; just because I wear the regalia, don't judge me bro"?

Isn't that what muzzies do now?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (U76Nz)

276 @Country Boy, CNN is reporting that she "died fighting for what she believed in," so she was an antifa/BLM supporter.
Posted by: sunny-dee at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (QAOZh)

Thanks.

If that's the case, then ZFG.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (qOW8P)

277 248 It can happen. Anything that legitimized them pushes us further down the road to a possible totalitarian future.

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (DQ4Fv)

So how would one avoid that possibility? What could have been done to stop Hitler, that didn't entail opposing him and his followers with violence? Will voting for Jeb Bush in 2020 get the job done?
Posted by: DFCtomm at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (50gG9)

-------------

Maybe it's time to not let the MFM call the shots. After all, it's they who are fomenting most of this.

We need to quit giving them any kind of credibility.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (Fmupd)

278 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (FUu/Z)

Certainly at least some groups push Spencer (though he's largely getting air from a media trying to link him to trump.)
Baked Alaska is looking more or and more white supremacist each day. Or are you quibbling over when one becomes a Nazi?

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (dzmBR)

279 so Richard spencer is Unite the Right? or KKK is? or both?

Posted by: willow at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (FKrah)

280 I do sometimes wonder how things would play out in my part of the country, were Civil War 2.0 to kick off. I'm in a fairly apolitical town in a blue left-coast state (Oregon). We don't have the street battles that Portland seems to be having lately, and what little anti-Trump activity there is consists of sign waiving and quiet marches. I think the most likely scenario would be civil unrest triggered by disruption of food shipping, power cut-offs, etc caused by activities in other parts of the state. That would be bad enough, without red vs blue warfare.

Posted by: PabloD at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (dyDH0)

281 269 >>>Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone.

I assume this is ironic.
Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (8rNrN)

To lazy to scroll but what genius wrote that?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (mbhDw)

282 so when the protesters were labeled Nazi's, how many of them believed in national socialism, or any sort of socialism

I really doubt most of those idiots could even spell Nazi.

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (LAe3v)

283 @Country Boy, CNN is reporting that she "died fighting for what she believed in," so she was an antifa/BLM supporter.

So she was a pro-violence thug.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (oVJmc)

284 Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone

---

Is this brilliant humor or basement dwelling idiocy?

Posted by: Jenny Hates Uncertainty at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (nhWB9)

285 Multiple people died, lots of folks were injured, and someone is sitting in jail without bail for what will turn out to be self defense.

Way to go, (D)s.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (psH+N)

286 248
So how would one avoid that possibility? What could have been done to stop Hitler, that didn't entail opposing him and his followers with violence? Will voting for Jeb Bush in 2020 get the job done?
Posted by: DFCtomm at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (50gG9)

Well, Trump seems to be a pretty good option, no?

I mean, the major error here is that it buys into the notion that the two sides are Antifa and the Neo-Nazis. Hell, in terms of the numbers, the Neo-Nazis aren't even a state-wide force. It's just the media that wants to make it seem like that so that they can frame things as "if you're not with us, you're with the nazis", which is just BS

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (q6jjE)

287 274 Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 14, 2017 05:30 PM (CPk0

That's a joke right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (5y11N)

I hope so, I really hope so... sarc tags are yor friend..

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (zSVEm)

288 >>>>>call me crazy, but people choose the symbols they carry; if they're
carrying swastikas and iron crosses, I will take their word that they
are Nazis.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (8rNrN)

Yup and worse than that, they make it easy for the left and the MSM to paint us all with that broad brush.
.
.
.B$. The left is trying to guilt all white people into taking responsibility for what this trash stands for. Sorry but that ain't me and they ain't gonna paint my pale white butt with their broad brush.

Those nazi's are on their own as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (0pcwX)

289
Sorry, I don't believe there is an organized "alt-right," or even a real "alt-right."

Right now, I'm more likely to believe that there is a HUGE chance the guy behind the parade, a Barack Obama voter, put this group together with the intent on causing violence to discredit the Right and cause a race war.

Kind of like the things George Soros did in the Ukraine.
Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (aT+Bx)

It's more likely that extremist nutbars are also psychologically unstable, and its not uncommon to see people veer from one side to the polar opposite all on their little lonesome. This is an observation rooted in reality, and more likely than the proposition that (say) Richard Spencer doesn't exist.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (CPk08)

290 284 Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone

---

Is this brilliant humor or basement dwelling idiocy?
Posted by: Jenny Hates Uncertainty at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (nhWB9)

THIS.... is Ace of Spades. Sometimes. Sadly

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (mbhDw)

291 80% of protesters carrying semi-autos?

They were the FBI.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (QQ+il)

292 call me crazy, but people choose the symbols they carry; if they're carrying swastikas and iron crosses, I will take their word that they are Nazis.

Posted by: ace
==========
Seconded. If they were wearing sheets and holding torches = KKK. Those aren't things people pick up on a whim and wear out in public to rallies. I mean barring a costume party and some bad judgment. . .

If you are sporting a Nazi tattoo and aren't a Nazi - get it removed. Pronto.

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (2gNon)

293 zombie, I'm not the demonstratin' type, just my personality, but I'll assume you're not really saying that public assembly and speech being literally ended for most people, persuasions, or groups is acceptable. And I'll leave that there.

oddnot, just a pedantic correction, Kristallnacht was not really a false flag operation, it was an operation directed from the top of the party, direct orders to the SA around the country, using the death of the assassinated German ambassador to France as the pretext.

Of course by that point the concept of "false flag" and the like was irrelevant in Germany, as there was only once source of power and authority, and it felt fewer and fewer limits on what it could get away with (though there were limits, which only finally faded to nothing at the very end in spring '45).

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (QDnY+)

294 Hitler's Beer Hall buddies were basically the same as Antifa is today; and we know how far they rose in power.

It can happen. Anything that legitimized them pushes us further down the road to a possible totalitarian future.
Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:05 PM (DQ4Fv)

Hence Heather Heyer as the Antifa Horst Wessel.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (A3b6q)

295 CNN is reporting that she "died fighting for what she believed in," so she was an antifa/BLM supporter.
Posted by: sunny-dee at August 14, 2017 05:28 PM (QAOZh)

Thanks.

If that's the case, then ZFG.
Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (qOW8P)

My rule is not to speak bad of the dead or dying. I tried to do that with MsShit, but he just will not shut the fuck up. Instead is getting worse. But I'll give this lady the benefit of the doubt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (5y11N)

296 >>>someone is sitting in jail without bail for what will turn out to be self defense.

I hope you're not talking about the driver.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (ZjR82)

297 my own rule is that if an avowed white power nazi like Richard Spencer is promoting a rally, and if I expect therefore a fair percentage of the people rallying will be his white power followers, then I'm not showing up.
Posted by: ace

Zero Hedge has a post that the guy actually organizing the "unite the right" rally was until recently a rabid Occupy Wall Street and Obama man. Possibly a CNN stringer as well.
No link because the commenters at ZH are evil psychotic fucks.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (B9t7n)

298 263
I cannot believe that the entire city of Charlottesville is leftist or
people from towns nearby all are. Yes, I know it's a university town but
even university towns have people who are not leftist

Believe it. CV has a big black population, and of course lots of academics and upper middle class NoVa students aching to prove how woke they are.

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (LAe3v)

299 You cant have a country, culture, and society that allows every single major and minor tribe to claim pride, power, respect and supremacy of and for their tribe while telling the majority (European Christian men) that they have no voice and theirs needs to be destroyed.

This will not end well. This is not being addressed.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (XFue2)

300 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (mbhDw)

Stolen from twitter "Yeah Hitler was bad, but at least he killed Hitler."

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (dzmBR)

301 291 80% of protesters carrying semi-autos?

They were the FBI.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (QQ+il)

1/3 of 44% of all protesters....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (mbhDw)

302 >>>Isn't that what muzzies do now?

some do, but do we buy that claim ourselves, or do we say that if you're running with jackals, you're probably at least jackal-curious?

You know, the "No real muslim would do this" argument is routinely rubbished by us.

Now we're getting into "These obviously aren't REAL nazis, because real nazis wouldn't do this" kind of apologism?

Why is there even this urge to defend scumbags if they can even be linked by Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon to someone on the right?

Just shrug and say "Ain't got nothin' to do with me."

When the apologism starts up, it sure does sound like it has something to do with the people offering up the apologetics.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (8rNrN)

303
call me crazy, but people choose the symbols they carry; if they're carrying swastikas and iron crosses, I will take their word that they are Nazis.
Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:26 PM (8rNrN)

In fairness the iron cross isn't a nazi symbol.It's Prussian and dates to 1871

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 14, 2017 05:35 PM (lKyWE)

304 Sedition if there ever were sedition.

Sessions get your head out of your ass.

--
Sedition is no longer a crime.

Treason is no longer a crime.

Violence is no longer a crime if you are a Leftist.

Soon, murder will not be a crime if you are a Leftist and murder someone who is not in a protected group.

BTW... if you're posted here, it's open season on your life.

/I feel so sorry for you people with kids.

Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:35 PM (aT+Bx)

305 O.K. Here's a tiny humor break-related to nothing on this thread, but at least it made me chuckle. My friend wants me to water her tomato plants while she's on vacation. "O.k." I said. She texted me back- "You don't need to come if it rains. " I texted back, "Thanks; I think I could have figured that out by myself" and put a smiley face. It's good to be amused by small things. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:35 PM (iVOAv)

306 That's a joke right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (5y11N)

Yes.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 14, 2017 05:35 PM (CPk08)

307 Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM

Traces back to gateway pundit though doesn't it?

Yeah, I'd bet against it then.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:36 PM (dzmBR)

308 306 That's a joke right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:31 PM (5y11N)

Yes.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 14, 2017 05:35 PM (CPk0

Sarc tag. Sarc tag.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:36 PM (mbhDw)

309 The Left needed a blood victim and got one. A human sacrifice, as it were.

-
Heather "Horst Wsssel" Heyer

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 14, 2017 05:36 PM (Nwg0u)

310 Time for common sense car reform. Stop makin' em with those things that go up.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (TOk1P)

For the love of Mike. Don't give them any more ideas. Reductio ad absurdum.

Posted by: golfman at August 14, 2017 05:36 PM (48QDY)

311 >>>THIS.... is Ace of Spades. Sometimes. Sadly

I think it's a joke based on the "only a small pecentage of Islamists..." schpiel

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:36 PM (8rNrN)

312 >>>Heather "Horst Wsssel" Heyer

Well, that's pretty vile.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:37 PM (ZjR82)

313 You know why the Left and the Media and NeverTrumpers freaked out about Trump's completely innocuous condemnation of political violence on both sides?

Because Trump refuses to accept their premise that he's a Nazi and because Trump refuses to accept that the Left has the right to beat the hell out of anyone it deems Unpeople.

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 14, 2017 05:37 PM (dEQP3)

314 311
I think it's a joke based on the "only a small pecentage of Islamists..." schpiel

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:36 PM (8rNrN)

He clarified it. Mercifully.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:37 PM (mbhDw)

315 "Just shrug and say "Ain't got nothin' to do with me."

When the apologism starts up, it sure does sound like it has something to do with the people offering up the apologetics. "

On one level yes, of course.
But on another level its all too easy to see the label of "racist" and "hater" (a non legalism if not a nonsense term altogether) become shorthand justification for a caste system in which wrongthinkers simply have no rights, and the only tolerated position is enforced celebration of "diversity" as the sole value of and justification for our country.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 14, 2017 05:37 PM (QtQaN)

316 >>>In fairness the iron cross isn't a nazi symbol.It's Prussian and dates to 1871

the swastika also wasn't originally a nazi symbol. but when enough people adopt it, it becomes that.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:37 PM (8rNrN)

317
Hey Ace:

I uploaded an Acosta pic to Pixy. "Acosta Dangerfield.jpg."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:37 PM (mbhDw)

318 BTW... if you're posted here, it's open season on your life.

I've been putting out whiteboard signs for six years-none complimentary about Hillary and all of them negative towards Obama. If they're going to take my life, they've been rather slow about it. Of course they might; If so, i hope it's while I;m in the pulpit preaching about Jesus. Either way I know where I'm going and who I belong to..

I cannot go all "the sky is falling now" I pray A LOT and I see that happens

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (iVOAv)

319 289

Yep, crazy tends to swing around. I'm never sure how serious to take the cries of "false flag" around here...

Posted by: Jenny Hates Uncertainty at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (nhWB9)

320 IT IS FUNNY WHEN Y'ALL FORGET TO PLACE THE SARC TAG ON YOUR POSTS !

BECAUSE THAT MAKES EVERYONE THINK ABOUT THE POST MORE !

Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBURGER at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (kwCTJ)

321 Fen - nice

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (pPKG5)

322 "I stand by that essay,
Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2017 05:11 PM (DQ4Fv)

what are your thoughts on going Galt? Or a national strike?"

Agree with Zombie - public "protests" are just theater designed to pump the weak minded followers on your side up, and aggravate the enemy, but they do nothing of any real importance. Never have, never will. Anything effective is going to have be done out of the spotlight, quietly and secretly, or at least with as few people as possible knowing what is happening.

Going Galt, going on Strike - cute ideas but too weak. Look at Venezuela, the whole country went on strike a few weeks ago, and did the Government care? As people become more impoverished, they become even easier to control, so strikes are always self defeating.

Ah, but IF you have the position, if you have the ability - working from inside to sabotage as much as you can, now that plan holds some promise.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (k1TUh)

323 Perhaps, but there are better things to scare Communists. The American flag for one...probably because they actually lost to them, unlike the Nazis.
=======
Better yet . . . a crucifix.

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (hlC8w)

324 Only a small percentage of carrots go in chili.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (Tyii7)

325 Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone
==

A "mostly peaceful" political movement? Is that the idea?

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (10LGw)

326 Certainly at least some groups push Spencer (though he's largely getting air from a media trying to link him to trump.)
Baked Alaska is looking more or and more white supremacist each day. Or are you quibbling over when one becomes a Nazi?

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:32 PM (dzmBR)

++++

I don't even know what Baked Alaska is, unless you are speaking of the dessert.

I tend to think that the Nazis are the ones who call themselves Nazis. Fascist is a less specific term that I apply more widely. As in, "The antifa are fascists, both in their ideology and their actions."

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (FUu/Z)

327 This will not end well. The bad stuff is just beginning. I don't know if any of these people had guns, but it is inevitable that sooner or later some or all of both sides will be armed and it will be horrific.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (JZJ9v)

328 318-Make that eight years and more. I put them out before Obama was elected.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (iVOAv)

329 It appears john kessler was an occupy wall street supporter right up until the election when he flipped and started a white supremacist group. Something tells me this whole op was being planned right about then.

Posted by: akelm88 at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (km/D2)

330 Sorry.

LOL

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (CPk08)

331
An old aunt used to say, " 'gay' used to be such a nice word." Then she let out a deep sigh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (mbhDw)

332 >>>But on another level its all too easy to see the label of "racist" and "hater" (a non legalism if not a nonsense term altogether) become shorthand justification for a caste system in which wrongthinkers simply have no rights, and the only tolerated position is enforced celebration of "diversity" as the sole value of and justification for our country.

yeah but this doesn't require claiming people who are obviously racialists are not racists, or just in it for the brotherhood or frustration or whatever.

This is just such a terrible argument. It immediately makes the person offering it sound like a nazi.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:39 PM (8rNrN)

333 I mean, the major error here is that it buys into
the notion that the two sides are Antifa and the Neo-Nazis. Hell, in
terms of the numbers, the Neo-Nazis aren't even a state-wide force.
It's just the media that wants to make it seem like that so that they
can frame things as "if you're not with us, you're with the nazis",
which is just BS

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 05:33 PM (q6jjE)

I see, so Jonah Goldberg is going to ride to the rescue, or maybe Jeb. Cool, I was worried there for a minute.

Posted by: DFCtomm at August 14, 2017 05:39 PM (50gG9)

334 262-

Yoo-hoo!

Posted by: George Soros at August 14, 2017 05:39 PM (89T5c)

335 >>You know why the Left and the Media and NeverTrumpers freaked out about Trump's completely innocuous condemnation of political violence on both sides?

Because they hate him and anyone who supports him.

Seriously if he had said Saturday what he said today they would just have attacked him over something else like providing the environment for this type of action.

I wish Trump hadn't made another statement today. What he said Saturday was more than enough and he is never going to win their approval. Stop trying.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 05:39 PM (/tuJf)

336 329 It appears john kessler was an occupy wall street supporter right up until the election when he flipped and started a white supremacist group. Something tells me this whole op was being planned right about then.

Posted by: akelm88 at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (km/D2)

Yeah, that one smells.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (mbhDw)

337 Only a tiny minority of Nazis actually killed anyone
==

A "mostly peaceful" political movement? Is that the idea?
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (10LGw)

He was joking... the sarc tag fell off somewhere.. honest..

Posted by: kraken at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (zSVEm)

338 Nevergiveup

My house has the mailing address of a university town. Big-12, but the Left has infiltrated everywhere. Let me assure you university towns are not monolithic Leftist camps.

Just remember, look for the signs a Leftist lives at a residence, like Hillary yard signs, etc. When the Leftist dream hits, and society collapses, take their stuff.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (hyuyC)

339 >>.I uploaded an Acosta pic to Pixy. "Acosta Dangerfield.jpg."

thanks but how do I get it on memegenerator?

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (8rNrN)

340 My rule is not to speak bad of the dead or dying. I tried to do that with MsShit, but he just will not shut the fuck up. Instead is getting worse. But I'll give this lady the benefit of the doubt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (5y11N)

Understand.

I once did the same, but now I've pretty much morphed to if they had it coming when they were alive, they have t coming dead. Prog scum are dead to me.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (qOW8P)

341 The Left needed a blood victim and got one. A human sacrifice, as it were.

Guarantee there was glee (and even high fives) at the MSM Saturday news desks.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 14, 2017 05:22 PM (+7/1f)

There was glee and high fives in the city offices in Charlottesville and the State Offices in Richmond. This riot was the desired result.

The simpleton mayor of Charlottesville approved the permit, then blasted the information to every media source possible to ensure that the Antifa, BLM and other pro-communist thugs arrived in numbers and armed. Then Governor Mcaullife echoed the call and warned all "good Virginians" to STAY AWAY, which of course meant show up in droves. A pox on their houses.

The so-called Alt-Right, Neo-Nazi's, and wannabe KKK aren't blameless, they were ready to fight as well and all too willing to engage the violence, not exactly 'peaceful' assembly. A pox on all their houses.
President Trump should just declare all of these groups as illegal organizations under the Sedition Act and have them arrested and charged with Sedition. He should use his mighty Twitter soapbox to blast the VA Governor and the Charlottesville Mayor for the conniving peristaltic sculptures they are. A pox on their houses as well.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (DxWUs)

342 Fen, C'ville certainly is a hotbed of leftism.
I have visited it enough times to qualify this statement with personal experience, which includes visiting Monticello and being told in no uncertain terms by the docent that Jefferson had secretly converted to Islam.
Several of us walked away from her when she said that.

Posted by: navybrat at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (w7KSn)

343 312. Your vicarious outrage is noted.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (fA1SL)

344 Yeah, I'd bet against it then.

Anything besides financial charts on ZH is suspect. Also why I provide no link. Just throwing it out there. May or may not be true. Would not surprise me if it were. The whole thing smells like an op. Obama and Soros and friends.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM (B9t7n)

345 Some masked folks -who are not leftist or part of the Antfada need to go and have few strong words with Mr. Soros.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM (iVOAv)

346 the swastika also wasn't originally a nazi symbol. but when enough people adopt it, it becomes that.

I came across a building in Indonesia that had a really old swastika on it. Like, I dunno, a thousand years old. Or more, or less. Really really ancient looking.

Still, you look at the thing and say, "damn, that's a swastika", and it's creepy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM (gIRsn)

347 >>> I mean, the major error here is that it buys into
the notion that the two sides are Antifa and the Neo-Nazis. Hell, in
terms of the numbers, the Neo-Nazis aren't even a state-wide force.
It's just the media that wants to make it seem like that so that they
can frame things as "if you're not with us, you're with the nazis",
which is just BS

yes this is their intention, but people who then decide "Therefore, I must defend actual Nazis" are falling into their paradigm (you're either an SJW or a Nazi -- and if not an SJW, then therefore a Nazi) precisely as they intended.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM (8rNrN)

348 Who is this Horse Weasel?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM (IqV8l)

349 Traces back to gateway pundit though doesn't it?

Yeah, I'd bet against it then.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:36 PM
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How about the Right Wing Tea Part Bastion of the Southern Poverty Law Center? Do they count as a source?

http://tinyurl.com/yaka69bd

Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM (aT+Bx)

350 Yeah, that one smells.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (mbhDw)

nah,
dude that is all in your mind

serious

Posted by: Robert Creamer at August 14, 2017 05:42 PM (kwCTJ)

351 I do agree entirely that justifying the values of a Spencer etc is ineffective, as well as morally reprehensible in itself.
But this is another case, like Gabby Giffords, of bad facts making bad law, or alternatively, why any law named after someone specific is almost always a bad idea.
Basically I think this is not a time to abandon a principled defense of civil liberties.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 14, 2017 05:42 PM (QtQaN)

352 296 >>>someone is sitting in jail without bail for what will turn out to be self defense.

I hope you're not talking about the driver.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (ZjR82)

Watched the latest videos out?

If accurate, it looks like he was very calmly and slowly driving, and his car got mobbed, and attacked... he actually runs into another car first...

Then, after a few seconds, puts it in reverse and floors it to get out of there... which is when the injuries and fatality happened...

Looks a lot like a panic reaction to an attack.... if those videos are accurate.

Posted by: Don Q. at August 14, 2017 05:42 PM (NgKpN)

353 345 FenelonSpoke

You speak much wisdom, grasshopper.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (hyuyC)

354 It appears john kessler was an occupy wall street supporter right up until the election when he flipped and started a white supremacist group. Something tells me this whole op was being planned right about then.
=====================

A real attorney general would have that guys bank accounts, phone records, emails, and garbage in hand already. And would be rounding him up for connection to a car battery . . .

Posted by: you want a south american country? I give you a south american country! at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (LNcQd)

355 Swastika protects you from Rakshasa.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (IqV8l)

356 >>>>I don't even know what Baked Alaska is, unless you are speaking of the dessert.

I
tend to think that the Nazis are the ones who call themselves Nazis.
Fascist is a less specific term that I apply more widely. As in, "The
antifa are fascists, both in their ideology and their actions."
.
.
.You will know real nazi's when you see them. There used to be a German WWII SS reenactor group up in New England. And yep they were real honest to goodness nazi's. They sported the requisite SS tattoos, real ones not the fake temporary ones, shaved heads and everything. We only encountered them once but they were a scary fanatic bunch.

They had a pole and loudspeaker setup running loops of hitlers speeches. Not sure what happened to them but no one wanted to be within 10 miles of them. And they had some serious $$$ backing their unit.

They had vintage BMW R75 motorcycles a real kubelwagen that towed a real Pak38 and they were all stitch counters down to their period correct German undergarments. Somebody wealthy was funding them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (0pcwX)

357 Who is this Horse Weasel?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM (IqV8l)

John Kerry: What are looking at me for?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (493sH)

358 Your vicarious outrage is noted.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 05:40 PM (fA1SL)

I thought it was pretty vile also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (5y11N)

359 Because they hate him and anyone who supports him.

Seriously if he had said Saturday what he said today they would just have attacked him over something else like providing the environment for this type of action.

I wish Trump hadn't made another statement today. What he said Saturday was more than enough and he is never going to win their approval. Stop trying.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 05:39 PM (/tuJf)

Yup. He could have come out with a statement co-authored by Maddow, Kristol and Jen Rubin and they would still have said it wasn't enough.

When everyone's racist, no one is.

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (dEQP3)

360 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM

I use the term totalitarian myself. Because antifa looks more like communists than fascists. But it's all totalitarian.

In any case, I didn't know who these fuckers were until they started appearing and the "alt-right" (whatever the hell that even is) began to get oxygen.

I actually don't think the "alt-right" is all that big (at least as the media tries to define it.) The media pumps them up. But it's pretty clear at least some of it's nominal celebrities are white supremacists, even if you aren't aware of who they are.

You asked for Cites, I gave you some, you can say "whatever never heard of them" but these people are being chosen to get on stage at these rallies, they're names are used to encourage people to come out. I'd say "palling around" is a good description.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (dzmBR)

361 >>>Basically I think this is not a time to abandon a principled defense of civil liberties.

well they had every right to rally (without being assaulted), and I'll defend that, but I won't go so far as to claim "Well they're not Nazis, not really, they just like the wardrobe."

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:44 PM (8rNrN)

362 Who is this Horse Weasel?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM (IqV8l)

He's helping put the AoS cookbook together.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:44 PM (qOW8P)

363 Swastika protects you from Rakshasa.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (IqV8l)

Thank you Kolchak

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2017 05:44 PM (493sH)

364 You all relize in any army only a small percentage of its personal kill the opposition. In two armys of equal size if everyone kills 1 person the other side is wipped out totally. Now look at the percentage of those who kill more than 1, that leaves many without a kill. But in reality only a percentage of a losing army dies with another percentage wounded so that is leavjnb out a lot of their opposition without a kill.

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:44 PM (pPKG5)

365 no one needs to defend popular free speech, of course.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:44 PM (8rNrN)

366 And while they're at it the some folks need to have a few words with Robert Creamer as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:44 PM (iVOAv)

367 I thought it was pretty vile also

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But you guys, if we have standards then the SJWs win.

/s

Posted by: Jenny Hates Uncertainty at August 14, 2017 05:45 PM (nhWB9)

368 355 Swastika protects you from Rakshasa.

Rakshasa! God! I actually remember that one! LOLOL!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 05:45 PM (k1TUh)

369 Watched the latest videos out?

If accurate, it looks like he was very calmly and slowly driving, and his car got mobbed, and attacked... he actually runs into another car first...

>>Then, after a few seconds, puts it in reverse and floors it to get out of there... which is when the injuries and fatality happened...

Do you have a link for the vides because the videos of seeing show him running down and throwing a number of people in the air with impact driving into them. I only saw one guy who looked like he took a glancing blow when backing out.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 05:45 PM (/tuJf)

370 Ace,

"I'm having a hard time with the claim that 'Sure, we routinely ally with nazis in protests, but we're not nazis ourselves, not sympathetic to it at all."

Well, like Zombie, I think rallies are stupid, because they're an open invitation for nutcases (or plants of one sort or another) to come along and push their own agenda. There's no "routine allying" here.

But again, you're buying the media spin. This is the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect in action: you know the media lies every moment of the day about the stuff you understand, but you believe their lies about the stuff you haven't looked into?

Most on the alt-right were able to agree with Vox Day's 16 points as outlined here:

http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2016/08/what-alt-right-is.html

Note that Day explicitly disavows racial supremacy or the domination of one ethnic group over another. Again, this has found broad accord. Disagree with it to your heart's content, but it's a long way from a Nazi manifesto.

Posted by: Murray at August 14, 2017 05:45 PM (lnL+g)

371 Horst Weasel is helping put the AoS cookbook together?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 14, 2017 05:45 PM (hyuyC)

372 Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM

I'm going to punt on this one actually.

SLPC gets a lot of flack for making up the definition of "hate group." But maybe they're accurate here?

Hell if I know.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:45 PM (dzmBR)

373 355 Swastika protects you from Rakshasa.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (IqV8l)

My Trident worked pretty well in Hellwell.

Posted by: Shiva at August 14, 2017 05:46 PM (CPk08)

374 Am I the only one scratching my head as to how so many people in the comments here have never heard of the Alt-Right?

Seriously, whenever the subject comes up over the past year, a lot of people keeping insisting they've never heard the term or have any idea what it is.

Maybe I spend way to much time keeping up with Internet culture bullshit.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 05:46 PM (datdl)

375 Ah, but IF you have the position, if you have the ability - working from inside to sabotage as much as you can, now that plan holds some promise.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 05:38 PM (k1TUh)
What about the marginalization and move towards elimination of European (white) Christian Men? I don't think people really appreciate how fucked this group is especially the under 40 age group. I'm not whining but this issue cannot be ignored. Hell, ignore European Christian part and just go with men, American and Western Men are fucked, so what do we do to correct this? Its very difficulty for these men to get in the inside, so what now?

Its almost as if these Marxists have been planning this for many decades and are prepared.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 05:46 PM (XFue2)

376 the idea that we only extend civil rights to those we consider virtuous or or political allies is leftist thinking - it's the primary mode of leftist thinking. Your status and rights depend completely upon what tribe you're a part of.

You don't have to deem the nazis virtuous or your allies to make the case they should be allowed to rally (without being assaulted).

Believing that means that you've bought into almost the entirety of leftist non-thnking.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:46 PM (8rNrN)

377 Any Morons considering Texas and willing to live in small towns or rural areas, check out TX 1, Louie Gohmert's district. Weather sucks, unless you like hot and humid, but pretty much everything has central air. No income tax, but what seems like a high sales tax (8%, higher some localities) after living in DE.

Politics in Deep East Texas are pretty good. Couldn't say the same for Houston, Austin (argh!) or other large cities. Race relations here are much better than up north.

Posted by: empire1 at August 14, 2017 05:46 PM (XtakG)

378 186 I have seen this history already.

Does not have a happy ending.
Posted by: Joe Mama at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (ifORZ)

***sad face***

Posted by: Anthony Wiener at August 14, 2017 05:46 PM (A3b6q)

379 Ft. Sumter II?

Posted by: Godddessoftheckassroom at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (vLoLa)

380 media is making to much money on the violence to let it stop.

Posted by: arbitrary turn back at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (8RQER)

381 Why has Jeff Sessions not arrested the mayor yet?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (aZq03)

382 Right now, I'm more likely to believe that there is a HUGE chance the guy behind the parade, a Barack Obama voter, put this group together with the intent on causing violence to discredit the Right and cause a race war.

Kind of like the things George Soros did in the Ukraine.

Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:16 PM (aT+Bx)

Anyone remember the name Bob Creamer from the Project Veritas videos? Hubby of Debbie Stabmenow, he's the organizer that recruits instigators at GOP, conservative and Trump Rallys (e.g. Chicago Rally that got cancelled due to violence), paying them to start fights seemingly in front of MSM cameras to push the narrative of the right's pseudo violent rhetoric.

I would not be surprised if Soros, Creamer, or someone else is behind the Alt-Right / Antifa violence.

If true, I would be curious as to if the price paid to volunteers of one side was the same as the other (Trust Fund antifa paid more? or roughneck neo-nazi plants?).

I guess I knew those Soros elements were in place on the left, but dismissed the alt-right possibility all together - that is until I found out who Richard Spencer while on 4chan a while back. That guy is a total plant.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (fFfWq)

383 Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:44 PM (qOW8P)

never heard of a horse weasel, but I'm a little dubious of how appetizing the recipes with be if it's the editor in chief. ;^).

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (iVOAv)

384 I totally agree.
And I think we can also all agree that John Podhoretz is a useless putz.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (QtQaN)

385 President Trump had two chances to get it right and dropped the ball both times.

He needs to think like a marxist if he wants to beat them at their own game.

He should have mentioned "Nazi groups, Marxist groups, White Nazi power groups, Black Commie power groups, all of these nutty groups" together so as to make the lefties a part of the problem, never part of the solution.

Always call your leftist enemies out by their real names, they hate that the most. That is why they always make up phony front names so as to sound harmless and helpful, rather then harmful and hateful.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (5VlCp)

386 When everyone's racist, no one is.
============

Wow.

Props.

*golf clap*

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (ay11S)

387 "Alt-right" is just another perjorative term invented by the Left.
Sort of like Capitalism, a word that didn't exist before Marx invented it.

Posted by: navybrat at August 14, 2017 05:48 PM (w7KSn)

388 372 Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:41 PM

I'm going to punt on this one actually.

SLPC gets a lot of flack for making up the definition of "hate group." But maybe they're accurate here?

Hell if I know.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:45 PM (dzmBR)

SPLC and the self-aggrandizing scam artist Morris Dees can fuck off and die. I'll make my own determination of what constitutes an actual "hate group."

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:48 PM (0mRoj)

389 383 Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 05:44 PM (qOW8P)

never heard of a horse weasel, but I'm a little dubious of how appetizing the recipes with be if it's the editor in chief. ;^).
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (iVOAv)

They have to be brined and slow cooked, otherwise they're like eating shoe leather.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (0mRoj)

390 Looks a lot like a panic reaction to an attack.... if those videos are accurate.
==

Yeah, there's enough of a gap between the two videos that it's not quite clear how the first injuries happened. But if you didn't know anything else about the situation, those videos would absolutely make you think that the driver was acting in self-defense.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (10LGw)

391 I'm going to punt on this one actually.

SLPC gets a lot of flack for making up the definition of "hate group." But maybe they're accurate here?

Hell if I know.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:45 PM
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No worries.

I hate to say this, but right now, random bloggers (ZeroHedge and even the autists at 4chan) are just as reliable-- if not more-- than the MSM.

I read Gateway Pundit with a jaundiced eye. If the links in the article are credible, I'll follow them and make a ruling.

However, if someone at SPLC says a guy used to be with Obama, well, that's something else entirely.

Sigh. Right now, I feel like I live in a communist country, and question what is real and what is not.

Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (aT+Bx)

392 Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:48 PM (0mRoj)

They basically say he seemed to be involved in occupy at some point.

Hell though, he could just be an anarchist.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (dzmBR)

393 Fake News Media:

One person claiming to be a Neo-NAZI at a right leaning rally = Neo-Nazi rally

One solitary person NOT claiming to be a communist at a left leaning rally = cross section of middle America rally

Posted by: 18-1 at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (aZq03)

394
60 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

Who counted them? The retreating police??

Posted by: ariesWoman at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (2gh0H)

395 Posted by: shibumi at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (aT+Bx)

Every time I've taken something from Gateway pundit at face value I've been burned.

I'm done.
Full stop.
End.
YMMV.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (dzmBR)

396 Maybe I spend way to much time keeping up with Internet culture bullshit.

Posted by: El Kabong
===========

Most of us come to AOS HQ so we don't have to keep up on Internet culture bs . . . we let others do it for us. Thanks!

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (T5GDD)

397 I mean, we have a Horse Weasel and a bluebell picking recipes?. What's it going to consist of "Mice stew with mulch dressing"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (iVOAv)

398 392 Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:48 PM (0mRoj)

They basically say he seemed to be involved in occupy at some point.

Hell though, he could just be an anarchist.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (dzmBR)

Could be, but I stand by my original comments. I'll wait for other sourcing about this guy.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (0mRoj)

399 Well you say you're not a whore, but you are wearing the uniform.

Posted by: Something Dave Chapelle once said at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (QtQaN)

400 I use the term totalitarian myself. Because antifa looks more like communists than fascists. But it's all totalitarian.

In any case, I didn't know who these fuckers were until they started appearing and the "alt-right" (whatever the hell that even is) began to get oxygen.

I actually don't think the "alt-right" is all that big (at least as the media tries to define it.) The media pumps them up. But it's pretty clear at least some of it's nominal celebrities are white supremacists, even if you aren't aware of who they are.

You asked for Cites, I gave you some, you can say "whatever never heard of them" but these people are being chosen to get on stage at these rallies, they're names are used to encourage people to come out. I'd say "palling around" is a good description.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:43 PM (dzmBR)

++++

Citation on the internet usually means link.

Were there Nazis on a stage at this rally? My understanding was that there were more than just a couple people who showed up with Nazi flags and regalia, but I hadn't heard that they were on the stage.

Citation?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (FUu/Z)

401 It's interesting how lefty towns always let the lefty ~~thugs~~ protesters run amok, isn't it?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (oVJmc)

402 374 Am I the only one scratching my head as to how so many people in the comments here have never heard of the Alt-Right?

Seriously, whenever the subject comes up over the past year, a lot of people keeping insisting they've never heard the term or have any idea what it is.

Maybe I spend way to much time keeping up with Internet culture bullshit.
Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 05:46 PM (datdl)

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1st time I heard it was from Obama/Hillary after she lost the election. And I do not keep up with the Social Media stuff. I haven't read all the comments, but maybe people are being sarcastic?

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (7E3mr)

403 They basically say he seemed to be involved in occupy at some point.

Hell though, he could just be an anarchist.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 14, 2017 05:49 PM (dzmBR)

It has to be emphasised that extremists are often unstable.

Posted by: Shiva at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (CPk08)

404 Alt-right means two distinct groups with no significant overlap:

Milo, Vox Day, etc: Conservative or conservative leaning people who hate the GOPe

Kessler, the bad Spencer, etc: Socialists of various strips who may or may not be false flags.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (aZq03)

405 I mean, we have a Horse Weasel and a bluebell picking recipes?. What's it going to consist of "Mice stew with mulch dressing"?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (iVOAv)
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***REJECTED***

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (UoSKV)

406 Off, Hindu sock

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (CPk08)

407 Whats funny not funny is that the organizer of the 'alt-right' rally was a Hillary and Obama supporter, and an Occupooper, before suddenly becoming a "Neo-Nazi Trump supporter" AFTER the election. Smells like a set up to me.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (O9qtX)

408 296 >>>someone is sitting in jail without bail for what will turn out to be self defense.

-

I hope you're not talking about the driver.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 14, 2017 05:34 PM (ZjR82)

-

What, did the judge decide to allow bail in the case after all?

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (psH+N)

409 >>"Well they're not Nazis, not really, they just like the wardrobe."

This. If you wear the outfit you are on the team.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (B9t7n)

410 "check out TX 1, Louie Gohmert's district."

And Dat's where I lives.

and no, the weather doesn't "suck", it's just the humid part of Texas, about the same as Mississippi, Alabama, and south Georgia, and not nearly as bad as South Louisiana.

So far it's the coolest August anyone remembers - rained off and on all weekend long.

Economy is growing everywhere, even if oil is down. State's diversified away from oil enough that it doesn't matter anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 05:52 PM (k1TUh)

411 >>>Most of us come to AOS HQ so we don't have to keep up on Internet culture bs . . . we let others do it for us. Thanks!

It's always a lovely sight to walk into a thread and see alex yelling at everyone not to search for a term someone just dropped.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 05:52 PM (datdl)

412 384 he's a dweeb

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2017 05:52 PM (g+Dix)

413 377 Any Morons considering Texas and willing to live in small towns or rural areas, check out TX 1, Louie Gohmert's district. Weather sucks, unless you like hot and humid, but pretty much everything has central air. No income tax, but what seems like a high sales tax (8%, higher some localities) after living in DE.

Politics in Deep East Texas are pretty good. Couldn't say the same for Houston, Austin (argh!) or other large cities. Race relations here are much better than up north.
Posted by: empire1 at August 14, 2017 05:46 PM (XtakG)

------------

Whatever. Just don't come to Oklahoma. We're nothing but lowland marshes with poisonous snakes and carnivorous frogs. And you have to be careful where you live lest you be trampled to death by the great Oklahoma crab herds.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2017 05:52 PM (Fmupd)

414 Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:53 PM (5y11N)

415 335
Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 05:39 PM (/tuJf)

That fact that I know they're going to be unsatisfied by anything Trump says makes me more likely to be supportive of whatever Trump does and less likely to criticize him.

Why?

Because I know that a rational evaluation is at best useless and at worst counterproductive.

In other words, the media battlefield is so lopsided now that any mixed statement will be broadcast as purely negative, so why give them ammunition.

The people who trust and respect you don't need to be told that you're not a nazi, and the people who hate you and what you stand for will twist anything you say no matter how careful you are.

This is why I refuse to play the denounce-on-demand game as well as the "Here's how I think Trump screwed up" game. It sucks to be in this position, but I don't see a better way out.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 05:53 PM (q6jjE)

416 >>>>407 Whats funny not funny is that the organizer of the 'alt-right' rally was a Hillary and Obama supporter, and an Occupooper, before suddenly becoming a "Neo-Nazi Trump supporter" AFTER the election. Smells like a set up to me.

Smells like...a guy desperately trying to make a quick buck off of internet marks.

You'll find a lot of these online political/social movement organizer types drift back and forth between left and right...depending on what makes them money.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 05:54 PM (datdl)

417 >>and no, the weather doesn't "suck", it's just the humid part of Texas, about the same as Mississippi, Alabama, and south Georgia, and not nearly as bad as South Louisiana.

That's some seriously low bars you got there. I've been in New Orleans in August. I walked about a block form my hotel to get coffee and my shirt felt like I was swimming.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 05:54 PM (/tuJf)

418 I had tuna fish for lunch.

Organic, fair-trade, non-GMO tuna.

Posted by: Jim Acosta at August 14, 2017 05:54 PM (9rx6L)

419 >>>>McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

Who counted them? The retreating police??
.
.
.I told everyone this morning that this would evolve into a gun control issue.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 14, 2017 05:55 PM (0pcwX)

420 those who say "Don't believe the media's lies" or "How many nazis spoke on the podium" have a point, BUT, on the other hand, Richard Spencer played some role in promoting this, and look, it's not like people do not have information about this guy at this point.

Like I said, I will defend a Nazi's right to assemble peacefully but I will not stand shoulder-to-shoulder with them.

Opposing the socialist fascists does not mean I have to ally with EVERY element that maybe (partly) disagrees with the socialist fascists.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:55 PM (8rNrN)

421 You'll find a lot of these online political/social movement organizer types drift back and forth between left and right...depending on what makes them money.

Posted by: El Kabong
====
And you know who pays well don't you . . .

Ge______ So___

Fill in the blanks or do not graduate to the secret moron club.

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 05:55 PM (zH5KK)

422 I see Alt Right and again its a flash back of my High school days with teachers trying to tell me Naziism and Communism are on the each ends of the spectrum. These both are brothers seperated at birth on the same end.

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:55 PM (pPKG5)

423 You should have clapped.

Posted by: Jeb! at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (ctuyM)

424 Alt-right means two distinct groups with no significant overlap:

Milo, Vox Day, etc: Conservative or conservative leaning people who hate the GOPe

Kessler, the bad Spencer, etc: Socialists of various strips who may or may not be false flags.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (aZq03)

IIRC, it was Spencer or someone affiliated with him who coined the term Alt-Right several years ago.

It's not a term created by the Left, it was a term adopted by Stormfront and Stormfront curious types themselves that was then used by the Left to mean, well, anyone to the right of Mao.

The reason why I've been extra shrieky over the last year and a half about the expansion of the term is that it had a meaning and it was useful to identify those with whom I wanted no part.

Now I'm alt-right per the Left.

*throws things*

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (dEQP3)

425 How the fuck did the police let both factions carry deadly weapons? Who the fuck was in charge?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (5y11N)

426 Haven't heard of 1 round being fired with all that supposed hardware being carried

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (pPKG5)

427 "How many of you are ready, willing and able to move to a new location if you are stuck behind enemy lines?"

And let all this good ammunition go to waste?

Never.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (jWe5r)

428 >>This is why I refuse to play the denounce-on-demand game as well as the "Here's how I think Trump screwed up" game. It sucks to be in this position, but I don't see a better way out.

I get that but my refusal to have anything to do with Nazis or KKK types has nothing to do with the current environment. They were scum long before this period, I just want nothing to do with them.

It's not for anyone else, it's for me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (/tuJf)

429 >>>Smells like...a guy desperately trying to make a quick buck off of internet marks.

possible, but there is that old claim, which often seems true, that the extremes have more in common with each other than with people with more conventional politics of either side, and there's also the observation that radicals angry at the system generally have more in common with other radicals.

As someone who's gone from conservative to radical myself, I understand that too well, but still, there are some bridges I just would not cross.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:57 PM (8rNrN)

430 The light bulb just went on above my head.

The Anitfa crowd were played by the Soros paymaster types to get the shit beaten out of them They were pumped up to "punch nazis" but it was just to get them hurt. The left is masterful at being victims and this is the ultimate moral victory for them.

Posted by: Max Power at August 14, 2017 05:57 PM (QCc6B)

431 Tom Servo -- Willing to say where? It's geographically a pretty big district ... we're a bit west of Lake Nac. Yeah, it's the coolest Aug since we arrived three years ago, and more rain than usual. (I was born in Kilgore, but left at almost 5 to take a child's part in the German Occupation, and just returned for more than a visit.)

Posted by: empire1 at August 14, 2017 05:57 PM (XtakG)

432
Call me crazy but when I see a crowd of 1,300 people at a permitted event portrayed in the media with only half a dozen photographs of Confederate and Nazi Flags I'm naturally skeptical. Where the hell are the other 1,296 people?

While the MSM ignores the 'anti' face-covered dude recklessly endangering the life of some old flag-carrying dude. 'Anti' dude with a portable flamethrower all ready to torch that summa-bitch.

I'm getting a Chuck vibe. I don't like the Chuck vibe.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 14, 2017 05:57 PM (EgwCt)

433 Had turkey meatballs and pasta in tomato sauce, good but they weren't beef.

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:58 PM (pPKG5)

434 Sorry...Communist Rabble Rousers vs. Nazi Dickheads...don't care...never will. Darwinism is all it is.

Posted by: Orson at August 14, 2017 05:58 PM (VQzxh)

435 Left-Wing Agitators Call For Escalated Tactics In Response To Charlottesville

Weasel Zippers

Sigh...better go buy more ammo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:59 PM (5y11N)

436 Am I the only one scratching my head as to how so many people in the comments here have never heard of the Alt-Right?

Wait...I thought Alt-Right was old and busted.

I thought the new hawtness was White Nationalist?

Posted by: Jim Acosta-I am Legend at August 14, 2017 05:59 PM (oFlMR)

437 415 335
Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 05:39 PM (/tuJf)

Also, even though I think Trump's first statement was ok, I'm fine with the PR idea of needing to make a second statement to calm down people on the fence about whether or not he was explicitly calling out neo-nazis.

I mean, at least now we have the clear evidence that most Lefties are goal-shifting hypocrites who will never be satisfied. Also, I hear the mother of the woman who was killed thanked Trump for his statement, and that is pretty important not only on the PR level, but on the basic human level, which really is the whole point, no?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 05:59 PM (q6jjE)

438 Pepe wrote: "What about the marginalization and move towards elimination of European (white) Christian Men? I don't think people really appreciate how fucked this group is especially the under 40 age group. I'm not whining but this issue cannot be ignored. Hell, ignore European Christian part and just go with men, American and Western Men are fucked, so what do we do to correct this? Its very difficulty for these men to get in the inside, so what now?"

You gotta get away from the east and west coasts, and most large population cities ( although Fort Worth I like a lot - not Dallas, just Fort Worth) Just realize that those places are lost and there's no chance of anything getting better in our lifetimes.

But in what they think are the out of the way places, life goes on and people who actually know how to be productive in a real world way are going to always find a way to live. Part of this is that you've got to find a way to work for yourself and walk away from the Corporate Lifestyle as well. The culture is lost, so say good bye to the culture and don't try to to live your life that way and don't live under their control.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 05:59 PM (k1TUh)

439 eventually someone is going to figure out a way to make a difference from a distance.

Then things will really get sporty.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 14, 2017 05:59 PM (z79tQ)

440 Had turkey meatballs and pasta in tomato sauce, good but they weren't beef.
Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:58 PM (pPKG5)

I grew up eating ground turkey instead of ground beef in recipes due to health issues for my dad and brother so to me that's what's normal. A steak or an actual hamburger was a huge treat.

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (dEQP3)

441 This must be a local story.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (B9t7n)

442 Am I the only one scratching my head as to how so many people in the comments here have never heard of the Alt-Right?

Alt-Right was big here before the election. Long story

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (5y11N)

443 You'll be happy to know that I was at a German university recently and they had a big Antifa banner at the Antifa student group office.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (J70i0)

444 The reason why I've been extra shrieky over the last year and a half about the expansion of the term is that it had a meaning and it was useful to identify those with whom I wanted no part.
=======
the left if really good a magic spells. Or marketing. Well its basically the same thing.

with their control of the media they can and do change the meanings of words.

see the word "gay".

If you don't brand yourself, they will brand you. Trump had already invested years and had millions of advert on his brand and they couldn't do much with him. He's always been a brash, ballsy businessman. So when they told us he was a brash, OVERLY ballsy businessman who grabbed mish we were like - yeah, so?

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (zH5KK)

445 there is that old claim, which often seems true, that the extremes have more in common with each other...

---

National socialists, international socialists...

Not exactly apples and kumquats.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Uncertainty at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (nhWB9)

446 >>>And you know who pays well don't you . . .
Ge______ So___
Fill in the blanks or do not graduate to the secret moron club.

Frankly...I can't tell who's being serious and who's being an unironic troll with Soros anymore. For some, he's getting into comical supervillain territory here...like when Mr. Burns tried to block out the sun.

Yeah, he's a billionaire leftist that funds lefty shit and fucks with currency.

But I do not believe he is the puppet master behind a fake-Nazi false flag Antifa riot.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (datdl)

447 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

And why specifically say "semi-automatic" weapons? Why not just "weapons" or firearms? He specifically knows they were all semi autos?

Unless he is trying to demonize legitimate self defense.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (U76Nz)

448 I had never heard the term "alt-right" until Rick "I jerk off to hentai in mom's basement" Wilson started foaming at the mouth about it.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (0mRoj)

449 This is all kinds of depressing. I think I'll listen to some Black Sabbath to cheer up.

War Pigs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQUXuQ6Zd9w

Posted by: X-ray at August 14, 2017 06:01 PM (zoSd2)

450 i have noticed that other than the idiot driving the car, Charlottesville police are reporting a grand total of 3, yes THREE, other arrests from saturday.

draw your own conclusions...

Posted by: toddler at August 14, 2017 06:01 PM (vtiv1)

451 Rose Capital - right in the heart of Tyler. Azalea district, even.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 06:01 PM (k1TUh)

452 Spencer's GF is Russian and is a Marxist. Guy is shady as fuck. Everything he touches gets blown up and the entire Pro American Movement is painted with that broad brush. It's not as if the Marxists could not see the very predictable frustration among White (European) Christian men and co-op it year sin advance. It's been done before.

And Spencer's Family is worth over 100 million so he does not need a paying day job or anything.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 06:01 PM (XFue2)

453 449 This is all kinds of depressing. I think I'll listen to some Black Sabbath to cheer up.

War Pigs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Posted by: X-ray at August 14, 2017 06:01 PM (zoSd2)

*laughs*
*spreads wings*

Posted by: Satan at August 14, 2017 06:01 PM (0mRoj)

454 I had never heard the term "alt-right" until Rick "I jerk off to hentai in mom's basement" Wilson started foaming at the mouth about it.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (0mRoj)

Hey, now, don't you be insulting the good name of hentai by associating it with Rick Wilson.

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (dEQP3)

455 draw your own conclusions...
Posted by: toddler at August 14, 2017 06:01 PM (vtiv1)

I always tried to draw to an inside straight and that is why I can never retire? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (5y11N)

456 Like I said, I will defend a Nazi's right to assemble peacefully but I will not stand shoulder-to-shoulder with them.

++++

Agreed. That's what's making this issue difficult for most on the right. The left certainly lived up to its abysmal normal in breaking out the violence and then the cops letting it happen, perhaps even pushing it to happen.

But, there aren't many people around these parts who are feeling a fierce determination to validate a bunch of Nazis.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (FUu/Z)

457 Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 05:51 PM (UoSKV)

Earthworms with dew and sunshine? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (iVOAv)

458 There were mutually combative individuals on both sides . . .

. . . but only one side had the legal right to assemble in the park for a protest on that day.

And that side was NOT the anti-fa and BLM side.

So why weren't they arrested, or at least kept away from the people who did have the right to assemble in the park for a protest?

I think we all know why.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (HZrjw)

459 I don't know why anyone would be surprised that a guy like Kessler would be involved with Occupy Wall Street. There was a large anti-semitic streak in Occupy Wall Street.

You know who else was anti-semitic?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (/tuJf)

460 It's nice that the dead girl's mom thanked TGE. He's the definition of True Midas as opposed to Fecal Midas.

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (g+Dix)

461 "check out TX 1, Louie Gohmert's district."

And Dat's where I lives.

I want to end up somewhere in central TX, SW of DFW and west of Austin and Waco.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 06:03 PM (qOW8P)

462 >>The reason why I've been extra shrieky over the last year and a half
about the expansion of the term is that it had a meaning and it was
useful to identify those with whom I wanted no part.

Intentionally expanded to include any/most/all? non-progressives by Hillary and her MSM supporters with her big Alt-Right speech.

This is progressive SOP.
If you're against open borders, you hate all immigrants, you're a xenophobe.
If you;re against socialized medicine, you want to kill babies, old people, etc.

So freakin' tired of these games.
So tired of once again debating who we aren't thanks to the Left's 'label everyone against us H8rs' routine, while they get a free pass for every extremist on their side.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 14, 2017 06:03 PM (NOIQH)

463 Our law enforcement source says that he was outraged by that instruction.

I haven't been too engaged with anything in the news, but I also haven't seen any Charlottesville police officers
screaming that point of view out either. Sorry FN; I don't trust you anymore than CNN.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 14, 2017 06:03 PM (iIma1)

464 1) Angry monkeys sure love to fall for that tribal crap.

2) Most monkeys sure love to fall for that "scared by the tiny number of angry monkeys" crap.

3) Seems a pretty awful example to shill for gun control. Apparently thousands of angry, hateful people fought each other in a crowd awash with firearms and no one got shot.

Sounds like a worst-case scenario disproved the hypothesis.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 14, 2017 06:03 PM (wB8Tg)

465 "Mice stew with mulch dressing"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 05:50 PM (iVOAv)

---------------

***REJECTED***

A pet recipe thread sounds much more interesting than another recap of Who's a Nazi.

Posted by: DaveA at August 14, 2017 06:04 PM (FhXTo)

466 447 McAuliffe claims 80% of protesters were packing semi-automatic weapons.

And why specifically say "semi-automatic" weapons? Why not just "weapons" or firearms? He specifically knows they were all semi autos?

Unless he is trying to demonize legitimate self defense.

......

Well, I tried to post his entire comment, but the blog won't let me cut and paste for some reason.

In any event, McAuliffe said he was proud of the job the police did and then said they couldn't have done anything else because.....80%.

The number is bullshit, of course.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 14, 2017 06:04 PM (oFlMR)

467 426 Haven't heard of 1 round being fired with all that supposed hardware being carried
Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (pPKG5)

Yup....

I would say that if 80% of the protestors there were armed, and not a single shot was fired?

It proves we don't NEED more gun control laws...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 14, 2017 06:04 PM (NgKpN)

468 I see Alt Right and again its a flash back of my High school days with teachers trying to tell me Naziism and Communism are on the each ends of the spectrum. These both are brothers seperated at birth on the same end.
Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 05:55 PM (pPKG5)

My second day at high school there was a race riot over the Rebel flag painted on the wall in the gym. We were called the Rebels.
This was in 1970. I could say I'm sorta used to this, being from Alabama and all, but it still sucks all these years later.
Thanks, Bronco Bama, for setting race relations back 50 years, you SOB.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 14, 2017 06:04 PM (bIwZ6)

469 McAuliffe makes absolutely everything about gun control. He is the slightly more dignified Anthony Weiner attack dog that is really a Party man and loyal and works with Hillary! and please please please pick me for maybe VP or something.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (B9t7n)

470 I want to end up somewhere in central TX, SW of DFW and west of Austin and Waco.
Posted by: Country Boy

Look at Dublin. Far enough out. Close enough in if need be.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (U76Nz)

471 Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 05:59 PM (k1TUh)

Thanks for addressing my questions. I appreciate that.

So how do future marginalized men get in the institutions to change things? Or is this a lost cause as well.... as I suspect that it is?

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (XFue2)

472 Who is this Horse Weasel?

-
Horst Wessel was a Nazi street thug and brawler who was killed by a communist thug and made into a martyr by the Nazi Party. He had written a song which was adopted as the Nazi Party anthem. He may have been killed for political purposes or he may have been killed because of his day job, pimp. Either way he was a Nazi hero whose death was exploited for political purposes.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (Nwg0u)

473 So nice of Ivanka to let us know that nazis are bad and stuff.

She didn't mention Antifa, but Democrats never do.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (Px8Hq)

474 Mussolini was a communist before he was a fascist. The difference was he decided to pursue nationalism over internationalism.

This is a very old fight between two groups of assholes that are bad for everyone and desperately want to drag everyone else into their diarrhea dance-off.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (wB8Tg)

475 >>>possible, but there is that old claim, which often seems true, that the extremes have more in common with each other than with people with more conventional politics of either side, and there's also the observation that radicals angry at the system generally have more in common with other radicals.

Also possible.

Personally, I've witnessed the rise and fall of too many of these grifters over the years to take them seriously. Social media works fast that way.

Spencer is, in my opinion, a true believer. He actually believes in the alt-right and the idea of a white ethno-state.

But a lot of his Lieutenants and hangers on just strike me as attention whores and grifters trying to scam some scratch off the movement he built.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (datdl)

476 Isn't this just a local story? Move along, nothing to see here.

Posted by: Fritz at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (eLttb)

477 It would be interesting to see the increase in concealed carry permits after this sort of thing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 14, 2017 06:06 PM (psH+N)

478 462
So freakin' tired of these games.
So tired of once again debating who we aren't thanks to the Left's 'label everyone against us H8rs' routine, while they get a free pass for every extremist on their side.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 14, 2017 06:03 PM (NOIQH)

Exactly! This is why I think it's useless to even participate in these kinds of discussions with the Left--they're not discussing in good faith to find out what you believe and categorize you accurately. They have their labels set, and they're just trying to goad you into saying something that they can use against you. Screw that!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 06:06 PM (q6jjE)

479 458 There were mutually combative individuals on both sides . . .

. . . but only one side had the legal right to assemble in the park for a protest on that day.

And that side was NOT the anti-fa and BLM side.

So why weren't they arrested, or at least kept away from the people who did have the right to assemble in the park for a protest?

I think we all know why.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (HZrjw)

It goes a step further...

Why was the side who HAD the proper permit, the ones who were dispersed and told to stop.... even though they had a Court's express order to allow them to protest?

Posted by: Don Q. at August 14, 2017 06:06 PM (NgKpN)

480 I fear for my children. We have been split into tribal communes not unlike those seen in Afghanistan or other backward nations. Difference is this will not be based on familial or regional lines, but by ideology. Done willfully by our "betters" in the government and it's media arms for the purpose of perpetuating the validity of the state and its omnipotence.

How utterly depressing it is when we are reaching back to the horrors of the Civil War as a map for how this plays out. May our children and grandchildren forgive us for our feckless talk and actions as we march them to the cliff as sacrifices.

Posted by: Kotter at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (7cm1G)

481 420 Opposing the socialist fascists does not mean I have to ally with EVERY element that maybe (partly) disagrees with the socialist fascists.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 05:55 PM (8rNrN)

No, but it also shouldn't mean one should have to hand said party's skull over to Antifa, just emboldening them more and letting them ratchet up the violence and shifting closer to targets that you WILL agree with.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (Vevy5)

482 Its been said by my wife I could eat beef every meal.
But thats only mostly true, one needs fried chicken and bacon every once in awhile

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (pPKG5)

483 "I only saw one guy who looked like he took a glancing blow when backing out."

Even before the car had come to a complete stop, various antifa were rushing it from behind and attacking with clubs. That's when the rear window got broken out. Not from impact forces.

Among those running to the rear of the car was a young woman, or perhaps trannie, dressed in a manner similar to the infamous Moldylocks.

When the car suddenly reversed, she got caught between it and a parked truck, and appears to have been critically injured as a result.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (ujwCG)

484 The WW2 German Nazis would have put 99.999999% of these neo-Nazis in extermination camps.

Posted by: Strobe at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (gbWkA)

485 >>>>>eventually someone is going to figure out a way to make a difference from a distance.

Then things will really get sporty.
.
.
.That's why I don't do protests, marches, demonstrations, etc. If someone comes at me wearing a mask swinging a club, baseball bat, metal pole or trying to torch me with a home made flame thrower, I will draw and end the threat.

And eventually that is going to happen. As I said this morning that is what the left wanted to happen here but they didn't get it this time. They are going to keep at it until they get what they want, a blood bath with multiple victims and dozens of rounds fired by people doing nothing other than defending themselves.

They have lost the gun control battle in almost every State and they are trying to trigger a krystal nacht type event to get a gun ban because everything they have tried to date hasn't worked.

Right now they are trying to guilt every white person into taking personal responsibility for what happened and I ain't playing that game.

I am not sure they are going to be able to handle what happens after they get what they want though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (0pcwX)

486 Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 05:59 PM (q6jjE)

I thought she was sarcastically "thanking" Trump for the death off her daughter-in other words, that he was responsible

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (iVOAv)

487 Hand Antifa a skull, they'll demand more skulls, and eventually, demand yours.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (Vevy5)

488 Got a link?

Posted by: Federale at August 14, 2017 06:08 PM (qlOcs)

489 452

Exactly. Spencer's a self-promoting doofus who manages to taint everything he "organizes". Also a Nietschzean atheist with no discernible principles.

But again, not a Nazi. At the NPI conference in January, he raised his glass in a toast at the end of a speech and said "Hail Trump!" A bunch of idiots in the audience raised Roman/Nazi salutes in response, because they were trolls and they thought it would be funny. They forgot that journalists were in attendance, and ever since then it's been nazinazinazi.

Posted by: Murray at August 14, 2017 06:08 PM (lnL+g)

490 Hey, now, don't you be insulting the good name of hentai by associating it with Rick Wilson.
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (dEQP3)

You're absolutely right. I apologize for the unintended disparagement.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2017 06:08 PM (0mRoj)

491 How the fuck did the police let both factions carry deadly weapons? Who the fuck was in charge?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (5y11N)
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Virginia is an open-carry state. Anyone over 18 can open-carry without a permit. You do need a permit for concealed carry, however.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 06:08 PM (UoSKV)

492 381 Why has Jeff Sessions not arrested the mayor yet?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 14, 2017 05:47 PM (aZq03)

Because I'm told he's formulating a big plan in a secret place and will spring forth any minute now, like a Puma, and start arresting law breakers. So I am told.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 14, 2017 06:09 PM (mcI77)

493 Mussolini was a communist before he was a fascist. The difference was he decided to pursue nationalism over internationalism.

The only significant difference between them.

The commies are really just pissed that someone might cut them off from world power.

They're all the same murderous scum beyond that meaningless detail.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 14, 2017 06:09 PM (oVJmc)

494 Horst Wessel was a Nazi street thug and brawler who was killed by a communist thug and made into a martyr by the Nazi Party. He had written a song which was adopted as the Nazi Party anthem. He may have been killed for political purposes

After knowing how they operate, I'd say political purposes/hit.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 06:09 PM (U76Nz)

495 Even before the car had come to a complete stop, various antifa were rushing it from behind and attacking with clubs. That's when the rear window got broken out. Not from impact forces.
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well then, not sure what Virginia law is on self defense but . . .

this could be quite a spectacle of a trial. I'm sure the MSM is delirious with joy.

Posted by: simplemind at August 14, 2017 06:10 PM (ay11S)

496 486 Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 05:59 PM (q6jjE)

I thought she was sarcastically "thanking" Trump for the death off her daughter-in other words, that he was responsible
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM (iVOAv)

I didn't see a vid, but the statement I read here doesn't sound sarcastic to me...

https://tinyurl.com/y9kcog4q

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 06:10 PM (q6jjE)

497 Who is this Horse Weasel?

That was a none serious naming of the male person who's working on the cookbook who is different than the German Nazi thug Horst Wessel

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 06:10 PM (iVOAv)

498 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 14, 2017 06:10 PM (KCxzN)

499 How the fuck did the police let both factions carry deadly weapons? Who the fuck was in charge?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (5y11N)
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Virginia is an open-carry state. Anyone over 18 can open-carry without a permit. You do need a permit for concealed carry, however.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 06:08 PM (UoSKV)

I was talking about the bats and 2 by 4s. It looked like spring training in Afghanistan

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:10 PM (5y11N)

500
When the car suddenly reversed, she got caught between it and a parked truck, and appears to have been critically injured as a result.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2017 06:07 PM

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You're expected to allow trannies and masked yoots armed with bats to drag you from your car and collapse your skull, citizen. Otherwise you're a racist homophobe.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 14, 2017 06:11 PM (psH+N)

501 Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 06:10 PM (q6jjE)

Good; I'm glad. I didn't see the video.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2017 06:11 PM (iVOAv)

502 "I want to end up somewhere in central TX, SW of DFW and west of Austin and Waco."

Marble Falls, very nice area, several lakes nearby. A little bit north of that, I've always liked the area near Stephenville and Granbury, just SW of Fort Worth. West of Fort Worth, Aledo on over to Weatherford is booming with developments, in fact Aledo is already getting way too pricy for my taste, its gotten so popular.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 06:11 PM (k1TUh)

503 Those of us who follow politics all day - we see the bullshit, we know the media setup, the narrative - how they turn assassination of republicans into local crime stories that in no way reflect on democrats at all, how terrorism attacks are "no motive known, and finally how these incidents are the fault of all republicans.

It's not new, and it didn't work in 2016.

The people in MI, Wisconsin, Ohio, PA... they don't care. They don't care about Antifa... they don't care about confederate statues... they don't care who the media paints as racists... they've already been called racists.. it's nothing new.

Posted by: Reality Man at August 14, 2017 06:11 PM (Ch0fq)

504 i really don't give a shit. at all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 14, 2017 06:12 PM (KP5rU)

505 Spencer literally has lactating tits. I mean come on... who wants a dude with tittles as their leader?

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 06:12 PM (XFue2)

506 I was talking about the bats and 2 by 4s. It looked like spring training in Afghanistan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:10 PM (5y11N)
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Ah. I thought maybe you were referencing McAuliffe's claim that 80% of the participants were carrying semi-automatic weapons.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 06:12 PM (UoSKV)

507 https://youtu.be/oO6uBQJ35N0

How about some more Black Sabbath to provide some much needed positive energy.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 14, 2017 06:12 PM (+IQdy)

508 But, there aren't many people around these parts who are feeling a fierce determination to validate a bunch of Nazis.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (FUu/Z)

Sorry but I think they are mainly fake Nazis. The Unite the Right leader was an Obama and lefty protest guy before Trump got elected.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at August 14, 2017 06:13 PM (J70i0)

509 186 I have seen this history already.

Does not have a happy ending.
Posted by: Joe Mama at August 14, 2017 05:19 PM (ifORZ)

****very sad face****

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 14, 2017 06:13 PM (A3b6q)

510 Charlottesville's mayor atwerk.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 14, 2017 06:13 PM (bIwZ6)

511 Helen Mirren goes after Ivanka Trump

which is why if PDT dumps Bannon and us, he is making a huge mistake. the Left and the RINOs will NEVER accept him or his family again. WE are all he has got. I hope ghe realizes that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:14 PM (5y11N)

512 Tom -- I've heard the Rose District is beautiful! I took a steno course in Tyler many years ago, but I don't think I ever made it there. It was just another city, to me.

Posted by: empire1 at August 14, 2017 06:14 PM (XtakG)

513 >>>ersonally, I've witnessed the rise and fall of too many of these grifters over the years to take them seriously. Social media works fast that way.

there is so much fucking grifting in politics, who knows.

I don't believe virtually anything these people say any more.

I don't read his twitter feed, but people I trust tell me Jonah Goldberg is taking a lot of shots at Fox lately, and they speculate he's trying to ingratiate himself to CNN for a paid gig.

A person will modify his ideology right-quick to pay the rent.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 06:14 PM (8rNrN)

514 If 80% of the participants were armed, the body count would be a hell of a lot higher.

McAuliffe is lying. As usual.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 14, 2017 06:14 PM (2VN2E)

515 I was talking about the bats and 2 by 4s. It looked like spring training in Afghanistan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:10 PM (5y11N)
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Ah. I thought maybe you were referencing McAuliffe's claim that 80% of the participants were carrying semi-automatic weapons.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2017 06:12 PM (UoSKV)

No but I am also amazed no one took out his gun. What a fuck up by the police, mayor and gov there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:15 PM (5y11N)

516 LBJ: I'll have those n*****s voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

And now...

Obama: I'll fuck with race baiting/social engineering, so that when riots break out, the neo-nazis will actually be the least culpable party.

Nice work, Barack. Never thought I'd see the day when you could engineer something even more vile than neo-nazis. But you have.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 14, 2017 06:15 PM (qEKwk)

517 Baked Alaska - possible permanent eye damage from being pepper sprayed by antifa scum at a lawful and permitted demonstration.

https://youtu.be/xKqjnkjck3E

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 14, 2017 06:15 PM (fA1SL)

518 503
The people in MI, Wisconsin, Ohio, PA... they don't care. They don't care about Antifa... they don't care about confederate statues... they don't care who the media paints as racists... they've already been called racists.. it's nothing new.

Posted by: Reality Man at August 14, 2017 06:11 PM (Ch0fq)

Whew...right, I forgot. Thanks for the gut-check. Even when I know so much about the media feeding frenzy crap and megaphone effect, it's still so easy to get sucked in.

Again, it's the economy, stupid. If the markets are up, jobs are available, and people are doing better in their own lives, nobody is going to give a crap about what a few hundred or couple thousand assholes did hundreds of miles away several months ago.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 06:15 PM (q6jjE)

519 And of course the entire GOP in DC had to come out immediately painting every pro American as a NAZI or a KKK member.

Fuck I'm sick of this shit. Its not going to end well for anybody in our country.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 14, 2017 06:15 PM (XFue2)

520 A person will modify his ideology right-quick to pay the rent.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 06:14 PM (8rNrN)

Don't I know it.

Posted by: MeAgain Kelly at August 14, 2017 06:15 PM (mcI77)

521 513 - See many others like Michael Smerconish

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2017 06:16 PM (pPKG5)

522
Stupid neo-Nazis just ruined everything and handed the extreme left a golden ticket to mainstream acceptance.
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Meh, the left were accepted already.

And somebody please explain to me how wearing a swastika and goose-stepping in a line is worse than modifying children's genitalia and telling boys and girls that they don't have a gender.

Posted by: Mortimer-Finish Her! at August 14, 2017 06:16 PM (VLYJp)

523 >>>
But a lot of his Lieutenants and hangers on just strike me as attention whores and grifters trying to scam some scratch off the movement he built.

there are more lucrative ventures to make a buck than Naziism.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 06:16 PM (8rNrN)

524 Were any of you aware that a "Patriot Prayer" rally was held the day after, Sunday, in Seattle?

The cops did their jobs holding back antifas that were determined to attack the Patriot folks. No violence other than theirs.

https://is.gd/ztXS7o

https://is.gd/XypAsj

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 14, 2017 06:16 PM (z2W2E)

525 Ah. I thought maybe you were referencing McAuliffe's claim that 80% of the participants were carrying semi-automatic weapons.
Posted by: bluebell

There were semiautomatic 2x4s. One may have brought down the helo.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 14, 2017 06:16 PM (B9t7n)

526 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 06:18 PM (U76Nz)

527 draw your own conclusions...

Posted by: toddler at August 14, 2017 06:01 PM (vtiv1)

I always tried to draw to an inside straight and that is why I can never retire? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:02 PM (5y11N)

Hell, I can't even draw inside the lines, that's why I'm trying to be the next Rothko...

Posted by: toddler at August 14, 2017 06:18 PM (vtiv1)

528
The cops did their jobs holding back antifas that were determined to attack the Patriot folks. No violence other than theirs.
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Burn the heretic!

Posted by: Mortimer-Finish Her! at August 14, 2017 06:18 PM (VLYJp)

529 A person will modify his ideology right-quick to pay the rent.

Steely Dan guitarist Jeff "Skunk" Baxter has a video on national security (he's an analyst in his spare time) where he asks an audience of government-security types, "How many of you would give your life for your country?"
All the hands shot up.
Then he asks them, "How many of you would sacrifice your jobs for your country?"
Dead silence.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 14, 2017 06:18 PM (bIwZ6)

530 >>>Sorry but I think they are mainly fake Nazis. The Unite the Right leader was an Obama and lefty protest guy before Trump got elected.

um, then why defend fake Nazis? What is the point? I don't get it -- it's like the point is to protect the Good Name of Naziism.

I don't mean that's your intent, but I don't get these baffling attempts to rescue this movement from itself.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 06:18 PM (8rNrN)

531 418 I had tuna fish for lunch.

Organic, fair-trade, non-GMO tuna.
Posted by: Jim Acosta at August 14, 2017 05:54 PM (9rx6L)

Was it gluten free?

Posted by: Minuteman at August 14, 2017 06:18 PM (A3b6q)

532
which is why if PDT dumps Bannon and us, he is making a huge mistake. the Left and the RINOs will NEVER accept him or his family again. WE are all he has got. I hope he realizes that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:14 PM (5y11N)

I know Trump has a huge ego. I can tolerate that. But sometimes he has to tuck that super-sized ego into his back pocket. When it comes to Bannon I hope he does.

'Dance with them that brung ya' is an old but relevant statement.

If you don't, next time the dance may not work out the way you planned.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 14, 2017 06:19 PM (EgwCt)

533 This is good. Giant anus Markos Moulitsas twatted:

NRA and American conservatives/Nazis are one and the same.

In response, Iowahawk twatted:

There are 378 genders, but politics boils down to Nazis vs people who agree with me.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 14, 2017 06:19 PM (Nwg0u)

534 >>McAuliffe is lying. As usual.

Have 93 million died from gun violence today?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 14, 2017 06:20 PM (NOIQH)

535 513 >>>ersonally, I've witnessed the rise and fall of too many of these grifters over the years to take them seriously. Social media works fast that way.

there is so much fucking grifting in politics, who knows.

I don't believe virtually anything these people say any more.

I don't read his twitter feed, but people I trust tell me Jonah Goldberg is taking a lot of shots at Fox lately, and they speculate he's trying to ingratiate himself to CNN for a paid gig.

A person will modify his ideology right-quick to pay the rent.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 06:14 PM (8rNrN)

I dunno...I don't read Jonah much these days because I know he's coming from a baseline position that I completely disagree with.

But I will give him credit for openly saying well before the election that he was not going to support Trump because he believed Trump stood for things he didn't want to be associated with at all, and that a big part of why he was doing this was that he didn't want to be painted as a Trump supporter in the future after the Trump moment was over and done.

So he was being practical and looking out for number one in his profession, but he was clear and open about it, which is more than you can say for a lot of journos.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 06:20 PM (q6jjE)

536 Nood.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 14, 2017 06:20 PM (ifORZ)

537 Meh, the left were accepted already.

And somebody please explain to me how wearing a swastika and goose-stepping in a line is worse than modifying children's genitalia and telling boys and girls that they don't have a gender.

Posted by: Mortimer-Finish Her! at August 14, 2017 06:16 PM (VLYJp)

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Or the mass murder of the unborn and just born.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2017 06:20 PM (Fmupd)

538 Late to the party but, I remember on the side of police car in the Original "Transformers" was stenciled "To Punish and Enslave."

At the next rally maybe there should be some energon readers to see if there are any Decepticons there.

Posted by: Picric at August 14, 2017 06:20 PM (uvAuw)

539 Now I'm alt-right per the Left.

*throws things*
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at August 14, 2017 05:56 PM (dEQP3)

I describe myself as a second degree libertarian.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 14, 2017 06:21 PM (A3b6q)

540 530 I don't mean that's your intent, but I don't get these baffling attempts to rescue this movement from itself.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 06:18 PM (8rNrN)

To Deny Antifa even the slightest measure of victory.

It sucks, but I don't see how it doesn't do anything BUT empower the Left to get even MORE violent to show them that yes, their violence is working.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 14, 2017 06:21 PM (Vevy5)

541 517

I watch Baked Alaska's stream on Youtube. He doesn't disparage other races and simply believes that whites should be proud of their heritage just as all other races should be.

For this he would be described by worthless talk radio conservatives as a "nazi".

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 14, 2017 06:21 PM (Px8Hq)

542 >>>>I don't read his twitter feed, but people I trust tell me Jonah Goldberg is taking a lot of shots at Fox lately, and they speculate he's trying to ingratiate himself to CNN for a paid gig.

This genuinely saddens me. I thought Liberal Fascism was one of the most important books of the last 20 years.

That's probably the biggest element of NeverTrump that disgusts me; that it's being done to secure book deals and consulting contracts and network spots rather than for any benefit to the country.

I'm sure President Clinton II would've been big for business at Conservative Inc.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 06:21 PM (datdl)

543 CNN 'crawler' headline just said, by itself, "The sun will disappear in 1 week."

SMOD by a different name?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 14, 2017 06:21 PM (ctuyM)

544 @ Pepe - Europe of the last 20, 10, 5 years is gone.

Based on birth rates alone, it will come under Islamic rule eventually. That's why you have countries fighting the EU. They are trying to maintain sovereignty & culture. Hungary & the Visegard group are strongest.

- A few years back the head of the Swedish Army said there will be war on the continent in a few years.
- Historians believe there will be war within 20 & you can't miss parallels with the fall of the Roman Empire.
- The head of the German Police force retired/resigned and wrote an open letter about what really happened that New Year's Eve in Cologne, etc., etc.
.
That is just a teeny, tiny sliver of alarms that have been sounded. The thing is, I don't think the West will win this one if there is a war. The US has time still...but Europe is our Bellwether.

Oh, and Turkey/Erdogan...he owns the EU. Don't expect much pushback toward him. Erdogan has also outlawed the teaching of Evolution. He's an Islamist who was once jailed for extremism.

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 14, 2017 06:22 PM (7E3mr)

545 >>A person will modify his ideology right-quick to pay the rent.

Some will. Not all.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2017 06:22 PM (/tuJf)

546 Our law enforcement source says that he was outraged by that instruction.

I haven't been too engaged with anything in the news, but I also haven't seen any Charlottesville police officers

screaming that point of view out either. Sorry FN; I don't trust you anymore than CNN.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 14, 2017 06:03 PM (iIma1)

I wouldn't hold your breath for any police officers that are interested in keeping their jobs expressing outrage in public.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 14, 2017 06:22 PM (FTXAT)

547 >>A person will modify his ideology right-quick to pay the rent.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 06:14 PM (8rNrN)

Or get laid.

Posted by: Carlos Danger - What a feminist looks like at August 14, 2017 06:22 PM (fFfWq)

548 Test, I don't need no stinking test

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 14, 2017 06:23 PM (6Ll1u)

549 "So how do future marginalized men get in the institutions to change things?"

Same way you got into the castles and the manors back in Merrye Old Englande. Mostly, you had to be clever enough to be born into one. If you were born with no lineage, then power and prestige and the ability to change the world were not going to be your fate in this life. We had a brief period in America where that wasn't true, a historical flash in the pan. Now history is reverting to the mean.

I feel free to say that as research has discovered that I am most likely descended from 100 generations of shit-shoveling peasants. But they had a good time, and enjoyed each other's company, and mostly never gave a damn what some stupid man who called himself a "king" was doing off in his tower.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 14, 2017 06:24 PM (k1TUh)

550 540 530 I don't mean that's your intent, but I don't get these baffling attempts to rescue this movement from itself.
Posted by: ace at August 14, 2017 06:18 PM (8rNrN)

To Deny Antifa even the slightest measure of victory.

It sucks, but I don't see how it doesn't do anything BUT empower the Left to get even MORE violent to show them that yes, their violence is working.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 14, 2017 06:21 PM (Vevy5)

I agree -- the Left's modus operandi is to create crisis and confusion, coopt the PR organs, and use the social confusion and chaotic momentum to move their ball down the field.

They obviously will pick on easy targets first, but those easy wins give them momentum. This is how the Commies and Nazis both operated everywhere.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 06:25 PM (q6jjE)

551
Look at Dublin. Far enough out. Close enough in if need be.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (U76Nz)

Yep.

Dublin, Comanche, Hico, out there.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 14, 2017 06:25 PM (qOW8P)

552 442 Am I the only one scratching my head as to how so many people in the comments here have never heard of the Alt-Right?

Alt-Right was big here before the election. Long story
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2017 06:00 PM (5y11N)

The moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 14, 2017 06:26 PM (A3b6q)

553 Does anyone know if Ted Cruz has made mention of Antifa today? I'm trying to decide if I will bother voting for him again.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 14, 2017 06:27 PM (Px8Hq)

554 >>>there are more lucrative ventures to make a buck than Naziism.

Eh, I think it plays more into the idea of Internet fame and making bucks off of twitter and youtube channels and livestreams. You don't get RICH, but you get enough to live while you internet the shit out of politics 10-20 hours a week.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 14, 2017 06:28 PM (datdl)

555 NBC News all over this shit.

Not the cops did nothing to stop it stuff, but the breathless reporting complete with hitching sobs from a victim's relative.

I think I started disregarding hitching sobs about twenty years ago.

You can almost hear the WE GOT YOU NOW DONALD DRUMPF in this hysterical bullshit.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 14, 2017 06:28 PM (4ErVI)

556 I'm in substantial agreement with this:

"...that's the real aim: [Trump's critics] won't be satisfied until Trump blames the Illinois Nazis and just the Illinois Nazis, and leaves Antifa completely out of it."

https://tinyurl.com/y7w2w9zb

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 14, 2017 06:29 PM (q6jjE)

557 472 Who is this Horst Wessel?

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 14, 2017 06:05 PM (Nwg0u)

472 Who is this Heather Heyer?

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Heather Heyer was an Antifa SJW who was killed by a NeoNazi thug and made into a martyr by the Antifa. The Antifa was overjoyed that they now have a martyr who may have been killed for political purposes or she may have been killed because the Neo-Nazi was attempting to flee from Antifa counterprotesters attacking his car. Either way she is now a Antifa hero whose death is exploited for political purposes.

Heather Heyer is probably not the same reprehensible person as Horst Wessel, but her death parallels his in its exploitation as a rallying cry for a rotten, totalitarian ideology.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 14, 2017 06:42 PM (A3b6q)

558 Yeah, we're having a national divorce, it's a remake of War of the Roses.

Posted by: gNewt at August 14, 2017 06:43 PM (yIPKR)

559 Nope, even if somehow people could swing it, yhey will not accept a National Divorce.

War Is Coming !

We don't want it, but they are going to force it down our throats if that's what it takes.
And soon, too; while they still have the media, the (weaponized) government, the courts, and most of what calls itself Law Enforcement. At this time they even have The Momentum.

All they lack is The Mandate of Heaven.
Onward with The Rectification of Names !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at August 14, 2017 06:44 PM (Umfx1)

560 suppertime

Posted by: gNewt at August 14, 2017 06:49 PM (yIPKR)

561 "That's probably the biggest element of NeverTrump that disgusts me; that it's being done to secure book deals and consulting contracts and network spots rather than for any benefit to the country."

It's because almost all of these media people have one thing in common: they're as greedy as the worst dope dealer I ever saw. Many of the famous ones have made more than I ever will unless I strike oil in my back yard, but it's clearly not enough to keep them from flushing their principles down their gold plated toilets.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 14, 2017 06:54 PM (HL3BI)

562 I spent 35 years as a LEO and was never told to stand down. Believe me I was involved in many disturbances which were not favorable to those in power, however, when shit hit the fan we were there to quell it.

It's hard for me to believe those LEO's wouldn't do their due diligence and accept the fallout later. It's in their blood to do what's right.

Posted by: Abe at August 14, 2017 08:37 PM (3yqzy)

563 Jane D'oh at August 14, 2017 05:24 PM (PY9jH)

Golden milk using almond milk if lactose intolerant is even better. Add black pepper to the turmeric paste for even greater assimilation.

Posted by: Granny at August 14, 2017 09:12 PM (u5LFV)

564 Here is the deal for Ace and everybody else here sitting on their high horse complaining about how awful it is that they are having to smell the stench of identity politics. Offer an alternative. However, saying we must reject identity politics, like the GOP has been saying for decades, won't work. It's just more of the same, and it amounts to doing nothing. That will lose and lose quickly to those NAZIs who are willing to mount an actual defense. Those who propose to do nothing will lose to those proposing to fight. Right now most everybody here is in the do nothing camp.

Posted by: DFCtomm at August 15, 2017 04:35 AM (50gG9)

565 If things were so dangerous and the cops felt unsafe, where was the National Guard? When the riots in Baltimore happened, Gov. Larry Hogan who happens to be Republican asked the mayor of Baltimore if she needed the National Guard. She flatly turned him down. Instead letting Baltimore get destroyed, Hogan overturned her, declared an emergency, and called in the Guard. Gov. Terry Mcaulife, the dem party hack and Clinton crony, would never call in the National Guard - not when his good friend Hill is still smarting from last November.

Posted by: Wendy at August 15, 2017 08:04 AM (bpemY)

566 This exact same thing occurred a few years ago at a Palestinian "Peace" rally up here in Calgary. The mob attacked a Jewish woman and her two teenage children (boy and girl). This was basically across the street from the Police Station. Of course the Police and the Mayor denied they were told to stand down. Cops just did it on their own I guess.
Similar occurrence happened in Caledonia Ontario as well.
Seems the police now work to protect the politicians, not the people.

Posted by: Markon at August 15, 2017 10:00 AM (/3Msk)

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