McMasters Sent Susan Rice a Letter in April Telling Her He'd Let Her Keep Her Security Clearance, and He'd Waive any "Need to Know" Restrictions on Her For Anything She Worked on During Her Tenure

Meanwhile, he continues to fire Trump loyalists -- and those who propose firing Obama people -- at a steady clip.

Almost as if he has some kind of agenda to protect the Obama legacy and thwart the implementation of Trump's stated policy goals.

It's time for McMasters to go and join the rest of the Obama Holdovers at Obama's mansion.

Almost one month after it was disclosed that former President Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice was unmasking members of President Trump’s team and other Americans, Trump’s own national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, sent an official letter giving her unfettered and continuing access to classified information and waiving her “need-to-know” requirement on anything she viewed or received during her tenure, Circa has confirmed.

The undated and unclassified letter from McMaster was sent in the mail to Rice's home during the last week of April. Trump was not aware of the letter or McMaster’s decision, according to two Senior West Wing officials and an intelligence official, who spoke to Circa on condition that they not be named.

Read the letter at the link.

Caroline Glick claims that McMasters is attempting to keep the Iran Deal in place (expressly contrary to Trump's position, and the claimed position of most Professional Conservatives), and is openly contemptuous of Israel, referring to it as an "occupying force."

Many of you will remember that a few days before Trump’s visit to Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu – ?????? ?????? and his advisers were blindsided when the Americans suddenly told them that no Israeli official was allowed to accompany Trump to the Western Wall.


What hasn’t been reported is that it was McMaster who pressured Trump to agree not to let Netanyahu accompany him to the Western Wall. At the time, I and other reporters were led to believe that this was the decision of rogue anti-Israel officers at the US consulate in Jerusalem. But it wasn’t. It was McMaster.

And even that, it works out wasn’t sufficient for McMaster. He pressured Trump to cancel his visit to the Wall and only visit the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial — ala the Islamists who insist that the only reason Israel exists is European guilt over the Holocaust.

While McMasters zealously protects the positions of Obama holdovers -- indeed, he even called an all-hands-on-deck briefing to tell the NSC that there is no such thing as an "Obama holdover," and that they were all on the team (and, impliedly, anyone suggesting otherwise was off the team -- he fires all the Trump loyalists and those keeping tabs on the Obama Holdovers.

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1 Whose side is this dude on????

Posted by: zombie at August 03, 2017 02:52 PM (DQ4Fv)

2 Get a rope.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 03, 2017 02:52 PM (Nwg0u)

3 Time to flip the table

Posted by: Bruce at August 03, 2017 02:52 PM (8ikIW)

4 Yup. Disobeyed a direct order from a superior (Trump). He should be gone.

Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at August 03, 2017 02:53 PM (k6kXg)

5 "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."

-- Cicero

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at August 03, 2017 02:53 PM (T71PA)

6 If even 10% of this is true, this guy MUST BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY!

Trump, GET YOUR FRIGGIN' ASS IN GEAR!

Posted by: zombie at August 03, 2017 02:54 PM (DQ4Fv)

7 Who put McMasters on Trumps list? Preibus?

Posted by: Eggo at August 03, 2017 02:54 PM (UmPR1)

8 So what's Trump waiting for? The coup to finish?

Many of his hires are turning out badly if the reportage is true (and that must be considered). But, damn, some of these top picks are really damaging Trump's ability to defend himself and his agenda. WTH?

I fear Deep State has won unless there's some nth dimensional chess going on.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 03, 2017 02:55 PM (H8S+R)

9 Trump has demonstrated time and again that he wants Obama policies with Trump rhetoric. In immigration, he supports less legal immigration . . . and more low skill visas. And he wants to fire Sessions. And he continues DACA. On foreign policy it's bomb Syria, stay in Afghanistan, keep McMasters. On Obamacare it's the same Obamacare policy; not his fault but he backed Ryan and Reince and they ultimately wanted to vote against Obamacare while maintaining it, and Trump will authorize the subsidies. It's time to face facts, Trump is Obama's policies plus really embarrassing theatre.

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 02:55 PM (wLtG0)

10 I bet he is the ring leader for the leakers.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at August 03, 2017 02:55 PM (Sqor6)

11 McMaster no longer has the benefit of doubt, and he needs to get out.

As Johnny Cochran would say.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 02:55 PM (WukiS)

12 But we were just assured in a previous thread that McMasters is totally cool and has all the right enemies.

Posted by: buzzion at August 03, 2017 02:55 PM (cAnNx)

13 So why was he hired in the first place? Donny Two Scoops is getting some very bad advice.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at August 03, 2017 02:55 PM (tMFgx)

14 Like I said before, a 'wish' or 'request' by a superior officer is a direct order. 'Blaster' asked for documentation, I'm pretty sure it is documented in the Guidebook for Marines since I remember the class and reading it in there.

McMasters should be out of there.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at August 03, 2017 02:56 PM (k6kXg)

15 thanks for your concern, bjstuggs.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 02:56 PM (WukiS)

16 Bunch of traitors

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 03, 2017 02:56 PM (7ZVPa)

17 I was willing to give McMasters a chance, but he needs to go, now.


Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 03, 2017 02:56 PM (fKWf6)

18 /9 Trump has demonstrated time and again that he wants Obama policies with Trump rhetoric. In immigration, he supports less legal immigration . . . and more low skill visas. And he wants to fire Sessions. And he continues DACA. On foreign policy it's bomb Syria, stay in Afghanistan, keep McMasters. On Obamacare it's the same Obamacare policy; not his fault but he backed Ryan and Reince and they ultimately wanted to vote against Obamacare while maintaining it, and Trump will authorize the subsidies. It's time to face facts, Trump is Obama's policies plus really embarrassing theatre.
Posted by: bjstuggs


I smell the whiff of moby.

Posted by: zombie at August 03, 2017 02:56 PM (DQ4Fv)

19 May be smokescreen. Trump seems to have God's guidance and protection. Pray it continues in a way that benefits you-and-yours.

Affirm.

I am benefited from everything happening in my world. I am protected from those that would harm me accidentally or deliberately. I am surrounded by happy healthy wealthy people. I am blessed and all my friends and family are blessed.

Posted by: Mudd at August 03, 2017 02:57 PM (cfHE9)

20 it is McMaster without an s.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 02:57 PM (WukiS)

21 ***sniffs***

Smells like burnt hair in here...

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 02:57 PM (Cee0K)

22 Who put McMasters on Trumps list? Preibus?
Posted by: Eggo at August 03, 2017 02:54 PM (UmPR1)

McShit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 02:58 PM (5y11N)

23 Tell Trump you think that he should fire McMasters now:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 02:58 PM (iVOAv)

24 12 But we were just assured in a previous thread that McMasters is totally cool and has all the right enemies.
Posted by: buzzion at August 03, 2017 02:55 PM (cAnNx)

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Yeah, that response needs a bit more elucidation...
Either this is a buttload more complex than it seems or McMasters is rotten. Care to explain BSG?

Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 02:59 PM (4ljGz)

25 Paging Mr. Trump. Mr. Donald Trump. White courtesy phone, please.

Posted by: Sponge at August 03, 2017 02:59 PM (xttKs)

26 Fuck these quislings.

Posted by: Insomniac - A Cautionary Tale at August 03, 2017 02:59 PM (0mRoj)

27 Caroline Glick claims that McMasters is attempting to keep the Iran Deal in place
So he's Mandy Patinkin's character in Homeland? Even the anti-Israeli part fits.

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at August 03, 2017 02:59 PM (nlbfN)

28 Throw over a table on his ass. These fuckers are a dime a dozen.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (tbOMB)

29 This fuckstick needs to be fired instantly.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (8iiMU)

30 Not a smidgen of scandal, these people need to be indicated

Posted by: Skip at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (pPKG5)

31 >>>Care to explain BSG?

Why don't you start by asking yourselves who is trying to spin you up and why?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (Cee0K)

32 zombie: moby..?

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (ILitO)

33 Does Trump not know what's going on in his own administration? Does he not know that McMasters is undermining his foreign policy? That Jared and IVanka are firing all of the Trumpists? That Gary Cohn is the ultimate globalist and determined to undermine the principles Trump ran on? We have to admit at this point that Trump is afraid of his own policies and is too timid to implement them.

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (wLtG0)

34 Jesus H.. it never fucking ends with these people. Hope he fired by days end.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (zRZaJ)

35 I just can't keep up with the insanity going on anymore. I don't even know if I want to anymore. Trump either needs to purge the old guard or admit defeat, because that's where he's going at this rate.

Posted by: nraendowment at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (MnDAb)

36 As I have said many times before, there is always a risk at putting a Career Military Person in a Political or Quasi-Political Position unvetted Politically.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:01 PM (5y11N)

37 We need a purge... Soviet style p[urge...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 03, 2017 03:02 PM (so+oy)

38 That Jared and IVanka are firing all of the Trumpists?

Who have they fired?

Posted by: Sponge at August 03, 2017 03:02 PM (xttKs)

39 All of these shenanigans around Trump are very much in the mode of high school kids and a substitute teacher but with a high degree of coordination. It goes back to those parallel networks and it is subversion, sabotage. Trump has to be aware of this.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 03, 2017 03:02 PM (k0L50)

40 It appears there be a fox in the proverbial hen house.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2017 03:02 PM (53MZt)

41 sometimes seems like Hillary (or Jeb) won.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:02 PM (ILitO)

42 It is going to take a long time (if it can even be done) to convince underlings that they implement policy; they do not enact it.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:02 PM (hLRSq)

43 "It's time to face facts, Trump is Obama's policies plus really embarrassing theatre."

Yep. Why didn't I see this before.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 03, 2017 03:03 PM (+7/1f)

44 Feels like GOT

McMasters as Littlefinger?

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at August 03, 2017 03:03 PM (hMwEB)

45 And McMasters continues to draw a government paycheck from the Trump administration why, precisely?

Posted by: DocJ at August 03, 2017 03:03 PM (NYS7S)

46 32 zombie: moby..?
Posted by: mallfly suPreme


"moby" is internet slang for "faux conservative who engages in concern-trolling in comments sections," a strategy advocated by the leftoid musician "Moby" - -hence it is named after him.

Good example of how to be a moby:

"I'm more conservative than anyone here, but Trump has been such a disappointment that I'm beginning to think he should be impeached. Don't you all agree? I'm becoming embarrassed to be a Republican any more."

Posted by: zombie at August 03, 2017 03:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

47 part of the problem with Obama is that he seemed more interested in the perks than the responsibilities. From Trump I expect much different.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:04 PM (ILitO)

48 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moby

SFW, surprisingly.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 03, 2017 03:04 PM (tbOMB)

49 If he is not out by the 5:00 PM news Trump is an idiot. That is plenty of time to confirm the truth of this story. BTW Who in the WH would have access to transcripts of actual presidential phone calls? NSC?

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 03, 2017 03:04 PM (B9t7n)

50 The question is becoming: Is Trump already compromised?

He can't get his appointments, his phone calls to foreign leaders are released to WaPo, Flynn is ousted, Sessions stands down, McMasters is in direct opposition ... yet McMasters is not fired. The DNC krewe has the special counsel with unlimited resources to hire all the Dem "mob" lawyers it wants, to cover up and shred and evidence Hillary didn't wipe, like with a cloth. Meanwhile the DNC on team Mueller have all the tools of the FBI to collect oppo research on Trump, assuming they can't actually get rid of him.

On the other hand, Deep State has very "deep bench", and Trump is apparently forcing them out in the open. The CFR and Soros have "made men" everywhere. We really need "a few good men" in the IC ranks that will blow the whistle ... or just do their job as per their oath, and expose the traitors. I keep hearing how 99% are so awesome ... yet the leaks and sabotage continue.

Hopefully Sessions and that 99% are collecting resources, and their will be a major purge and prosecutions of the whole mob soon. SWAT teams should have collected Hillary's servers long ago, from her house, her lawyer, her maid, etc. Who is running "The Show"?

Posted by: illiniwek at August 03, 2017 03:04 PM (b+0FS)

51 If Trump puts in a squish at DHS you will know that the real reason he wants to fire Sessions is because Sessions is actually doing what Trump promised, to an admittedly limited extent.

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 03:04 PM (wLtG0)

52 this mcmasters guy sounds like he should be fired. you know?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 03, 2017 03:04 PM (AU4SY)

53 and how are these transcripts of his conversations getting leaked? How bloody hard can it be to find the fucking leaker????????

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 03, 2017 03:04 PM (zRZaJ)

54 Do you really believe we, the American public, know more about what is going on with McMasters than Trump? Come on.

This is ridiculous.

This is the same hyper freakout that erupted over Trump's Sessions tweets. And I'm telling you THAT was a psyop. Are we hearing anything about Sessions anymore?

You really think Trump didn't know Sessions was going after leakers? And that tomorrow's report was due to Trump pushing Sessions on it?

Anyway, that's fine. You guys can all believe that Trump is being played by the McMasters mega-mind and is just too dumb to see it, while all of us on the outside can just see it as clear as day!

LOL.

No way.

Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:05 PM (uOEHQ)

55 re 46: ok, thanks.

I'm a lifelong Republican but I'm going to vote for Hillary this time.

one learns something new here every day.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:05 PM (ILitO)

56 Aww...I want to talk about the Punisher some more, now that I'm back from lunch.

If it's true what he said about Israel being an 'occupying force', I may have to return my copy of 'Dereliction of Duty' for a refund.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:06 PM (3OIiX)

57 33 Trump zitzed the Paris accord in defiance of Cohn's stated wishes

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2017 03:06 PM (53MZt)

58 Let's take Trump's biggest betrayal: WHY ARE WE STILL IN AFGHANISTAN? For cyring out loud, it's been 15 years. Just leave already.

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 03:06 PM (wLtG0)

59 To: bjstuggs

Thank you.Your concern is:

Noted
X Launched via trebuchet into Mexico.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:06 PM (hLRSq)

60 Its rather perturbing but I do think (hope) Trump has more intel on this guy than us. Everything is just so confusing. Who do you trust?

Posted by: IC at August 03, 2017 03:07 PM (a0IVu)

61 Who are all these magic new posters?

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 03, 2017 03:07 PM (B9t7n)

62 Troll alert. And it does not make any more sense than the old ones

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:07 PM (5y11N)

63 Drop him off in Gaza and revoke his Passport.

Posted by: garrett at August 03, 2017 03:07 PM (hLhtd)

64 Can this amnesty letter from McMasters be revoked?

Posted by: TexasDan at August 03, 2017 03:07 PM (yL25O)

65 Why don't you start by asking yourselves who is trying to spin you up and why?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 03:00 PM (Cee0K)

===============

So you're denying that he let Rice keep her clearance and waive need to know requirments? Some of this I can understand as being possibly overblown (Glick, keeping Obama staffers, etc) but covering for Rice? Really? How is that not a problem? I'm asking seriously.

Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 03:08 PM (4ljGz)

66 By the Way:


Stayed Tuned for More "Days of Our West Wing".

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

67 55 re 46: ok, thanks.

I'm a lifelong Republican but I'm going to vote for Hillary this time.

one learns something new here every day.
Posted by: mallfly suPreme


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moby

"moby

An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question.

The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge...."

Posted by: zombie at August 03, 2017 03:08 PM (DQ4Fv)

68 Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:05 PM (uOEHQ)

Yep, I'm sure Donny Two Scoops has it all under complete control. I mean, he's been around DC his whole life and knows the sewers like the back of his teeth-scarred hands. Right?

Or not.

Posted by: DocJ at August 03, 2017 03:08 PM (NYS7S)

69 I just can't keep up with the insanity going on anymore. I don't even know if I want to anymore. Trump either needs to purge the old guard or admit defeat, because that's where he's going at this rate.

+++

It's not the people it's the structure. Hillary wasn't the only one who had a private server. They all do. And that's where the real government happens.

You're not part of it and neither is Trump.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 03, 2017 03:09 PM (k0L50)

70 Why don't you start by asking yourselves who is trying to spin you up and why?

OR, get this, I can start by asking if this stuff is true. If it is true, who cares if it's someone trying to "spin me up"?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:09 PM (jhqr1)

71 I give this new moby rating of 13.5 MegaKohns.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 03, 2017 03:09 PM (tbOMB)

72 You still here, McMaster?

Posted by: t-bird at August 03, 2017 03:09 PM (2z74n)

73 As a lifelong Republican I am filled with concern! It is obvious that a man who is totally unlike Obama is really Obama! And I have been lurking for decades!

Posted by: bjandthebear at August 03, 2017 03:09 PM (RD7QR)

74 55 re 46: ok, thanks.

I'm a lifelong Republican but I'm going to vote for Hillary this time.

one learns something new here every day.
Posted by: mallfly suPreme

Methinks the bot software needs an update.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at August 03, 2017 03:10 PM (k6kXg)

75 This sort of Inside the Beltway "professional courtesy" crap is going to bite PDT in the ass.

Because anything Susan Rice sees and hears will be passed along to ValJar and her cronies.

I'll bet ValJar was the force behind the blizzard of unmasking requests by Rice, Power, and Ben Rhodes. ValJar had no legitimate need to unmask, so she used cutouts to get the names she wanted after Rice, Rhodes, or Obama let her read the President's Daily Intel Briefing and God knows what other materials.

Posted by: Gref at August 03, 2017 03:10 PM (AMIL/)

76 I give up

Posted by: common man at August 03, 2017 03:10 PM (RNzkW)

77 70 Why don't you start by asking yourselves who is trying to spin you up and why?

OR, get this, I can start by asking if this stuff is true. If it is true, who cares if it's someone trying to "spin me up"?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:09 PM (jhqr1)

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Good point. The Rice letter is true. How is that not a big deal?

Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 03:10 PM (4ljGz)

78 Here's my prediction: If... and I am saying if, an assassination attempt (successful or otherwise) occurs against Trump, it will be an employee of the federal government.

If I were him, I would avoid any gathering of Senators wearing dresses. Especially where there are sharp knives around.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2017 03:10 PM (TOk1P)

79 What's needed is to trace the unmasking to a leak of a classified document to MSM. Easy to indict and convict if you can establish the trail. Big jail time exposure.

It's a Big Pussy offense -- like getting caught with a pound of heroin. Then flip the target.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 03, 2017 03:11 PM (+7/1f)

80 Posted by: Mudd at August 03, 2017 02:57 PM (cfHE9)

I am benefited from everything happening in my world. I am protected from those that would harm me accidentally or deliberately. I am surrounded by happy healthy wealthy people. I am blessed and all my friends and family are blessed.
Posted by: Mudd at August 03, 2017 02:57 PM (cfHE9)

Is that what I'm supposed to afifirm?. It sounds like Joel Osteen or one of those "mane it and claim it" folks. Bah!

Right now I am dealing with some heavy duty stuff because it's sometimes part f life, and because perhaps of attacks by powers and principalities because I have put my trust in Jesus Christ the Lord and want the Father to be glorified in the Son in life and work. It makes no difference who I am surrounded by. Jesus was not wealthy. He had no place to lay his head. His friends betrayed and deserted him and he was killed. He rose from the dead and, is present in the Holy Spirit. I am blessed because God loves me and is with me whatever i go through. "In this world you will have trouble" says the Scripture" which affirms that "all things work together that love the Lord and are called according to his purposes" but if one has to he happy, healthy and wealthy to be considered blessed by God I affirm that is not according to the theology of the New Testament. If you're not Christian you can believe whatever you like, but there are millions of people around the world who are not surrounded by wealthy people-indeed some are dying for their faith. If you don't think people who died for their faith are not blessed by God, check out Hebrews.

Sorry; The whiff of "name it and claim" burns me up but i certainly hope that God is blessing you in whatever way you need.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:11 PM (iVOAv)

81 23 Tell Trump you think that he should fire McMasters now:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 02:58 PM (iVOAv)
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Written and Sent!

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at August 03, 2017 03:11 PM (lwKRt)

82 Can we do this yet?


Burn it down -all of it
Scatter the stones leaving no stone laying on top of another
Salt the earth

Short of SMOD, how can this deep state / Obama holdover be purged?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 03, 2017 03:11 PM (jxbfJ)

83 >>>Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 03:08 PM (4ljGz)

Are leaks good or bad? How do you verify the accuracy of leaks?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 03:12 PM (Cee0K)

84
So I take it now that Trump knows about this McMasters has been fired and both he and susan rice have no security clearance.

No?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 03, 2017 03:12 PM (r+sAi)

85 I was giving the "moby" the benefit of the doubt and assuming that post was sarcastic.

There was (is?) a regular moron named mallfly. What are the odds that someone else just happened on that nick?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:12 PM (gIRsn)

86 Sigh..McMasters sounds like a Tool Line from Sears?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:12 PM (5y11N)

87 You guys are calling me names because it's becoming too obvious. Trump is really just Obama Lite. Do you really think Jared, Ivanka, Cohn and McMaster would be in charge if Trump believed his own campaign platform? Sessinos and Bannon are the only true Trumpists left and Sessions would be fired already if Trump wasn't boxed in. Bannon he can't fire becasue Bannon would restart Breitbart and start roasting him like he used to do with Ryan and Boehner.

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 03:12 PM (wLtG0)

88 81 23 Tell Trump you think that he should fire McMasters now:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 02:58 PM (iVOAv)
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Written and Sent!
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at August 03, 2017 03:11 PM (lwKRt)

Semper Fi!

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at August 03, 2017 03:12 PM (k6kXg)

89 How bloody hard can it be to find the fucking leaker????????

Leakers are notoriously hard to find. Washington insiders are very skilled at passing information discreetly to reporters.

What intelligence agencies do (among other things) is slightly alter reports given to each of a very few individuals. Then you compare the leak to who had that specific alteration.

That's kind of hard to do if the person has access to the original event and not a report.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:13 PM (jhqr1)

90 What the fucking fuck is going on?

GET RID OF THIS GUY.

NOW!

Posted by: Zipity at August 03, 2017 03:13 PM (/9qUX)

91 Much like how Lincoln shifted the purpose of his presidency to emancipating slaves, Trump's purpose going forward is to crush the deep state. It's the only thing that matters now.

As Schlitcher said this morning, if these entrenched aristocratic assholes depose Trump through their illegitimate shenanigans, then this country will dissolve into civil war.

When every legitimate democratic option is exhausted and these assholes still hold all of the power...

Well, the founders created the second amendment for a reason.

Posted by: JC at August 03, 2017 03:13 PM (3GSgE)

92 Fenelon, how is your son doing?
I have been praying for you guys.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at August 03, 2017 03:13 PM (hMwEB)

93 67 55 re 46: ok, thanks.

I'm a lifelong Republican but I'm going to vote for Hillary this time.

one learns something new here every day.
Posted by: mallfly suPreme

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moby

"moby

An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question.

The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge...."
Posted by: zombie at August 03, 2017 03:08 PM (DQ4Fv)


Yeah I was about to say that moby is less the "concerned Christian conservative" and more the pretend to be conservative and then say something like "I hate black people" and then when all the people on the site agree to "see they're all racists!"

Posted by: Buzzion at August 03, 2017 03:13 PM (cAnNx)

94 Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:12 PM (gIRsn)

I think the moron is with one L . I could be mistaken.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:13 PM (/8r1I)

95 The concern is deep in here.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at August 03, 2017 03:14 PM (s/EUv)

96 87 You guys are calling me names because it's becoming too obvious. Trump is really just Obama Lite. Do you really think Jared, Ivanka, Cohn and McMaster would be in charge if Trump believed his own campaign platform? Sessinos and Bannon are the only true Trumpists left and Sessions would be fired already if Trump wasn't boxed in. Bannon he can't fire becasue Bannon would restart Breitbart and start roasting him like he used to do with Ryan and Boehner.
Posted by: bjstuggs


That comment is like holding up a gigantic neon sign saying "I AM A MOBY."

Posted by: zombie at August 03, 2017 03:14 PM (DQ4Fv)

97 becasue Bannon would restart Breitbart and start roasting him like he used to do with Ryan and Boehner.

Yup you made us...your on top of things...And yeah someone should "Restart" Breibart?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (5y11N)

98 The Kilgore Trout/Hot Air incident was a classic Moby attack.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (s/EUv)

99
As a life-long Democrat who crossed the aisle to vote for Trump I can not begin to tell you of my concern, day after day about the events in the White House. We seemed to have a fresh start and a lot of bipartisan efforts by such stalwarts as John McCain and Lindsey Graham to move this country forward again.

Perhaps it will take the Democrats recovering the Senate to move the country in the correct direction again.

Posted by: Democrat Voter at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (EgwCt)

100 Also worth noting that leaked phone calls can be leaked by either side.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (Cee0K)

101 I'm very confused on the foreign policy aspect. We seem to have been pro-Isreal and pro-Saudi alliance before Obama, then Obama came in and was pro-Iran. I know I'm generalizing too much and its not on purpose.

What is our endgame strategy for foreign policy and national security? Could somebody please shed some light on this matter?

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (XFue2)

102 GTFO! You're fired.

Posted by: USNtakim at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (zZWkn)

103 So the President is away on vacation, and a General with Deep State ties starts a purge against his supporters.

Nah, I read too many Mitch Rapp books

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (7HtZB)

104 Trump is really just Obama Lite.
========

And Rachel Maddow is hung like a horse.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (vg8iE)

105 re 85: it's the same me

like in 2008 when you'd see the interviews with 'life long Republicans' who decided to vote for Obama. Because he was so brilliant or something

but didn't Col Peters say on Fox last year that he was going to vote for Hillary?

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:16 PM (ILitO)

106 I know it's off-topic (except for a thread or two ago) but . . . here's my impression of an idiot leftist "progressive":

(clears throat)

Has anybody commented that Stephen Miller looks kinda sort like PUTIN if you squint just right?

RUSSIA! RUSSIA! AIEE! AIEE! AIEE VLADPUTIN FHTAGN!!! (hyperventilates)

Posted by: filbert at August 03, 2017 03:16 PM (s5o+q)

107 So let me get this right - conservatives voted for a Cohn, McMaster, Jared and Ivanka administration? That's not what I voted for. Not even close. Trump is responsible for his own policies, he put Cohn and Jared and Ivanka and McMaster in charge. Why pretend he's the victim of his own staffing?

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 03:16 PM (wLtG0)

108 What the hell pixy, I am not a spammer.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (mf5HN)

109 How bloody hard can it be to find the fucking leaker????????

++++

Find an email sent to an encrypted server. Remove any legal authority to read it even if you decrypt it.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (k0L50)

110 What the actual fuck is going on here?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (fA1SL)

111 Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at August 03, 2017 03:13 PM (hMwEB)

Peter than he was yesterday. Thanks for your prayers. They mean a lot.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (iVOAv)

112 but didn't Col Peters say on Fox last year that he was going to vote for Hillary?
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:16 PM (ILitO)

yeah but much like the preverbial tree in the woods, if he said it to Shep, did anyone hear it?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (5y11N)

113 Same troll over on CTH. Must be a professional.

Posted by: Lace Wigs at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (B9t7n)

114 >>Rachel Maddow is hung like a horse.


Sweep the 3rd Leg!

Posted by: garrett at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (hLhtd)

115 OK, I used to have a Top Secret clearance, so I think I can say with some kind of authority...just because you have an active clearance, doesn't mean you are regularly able to access any top secret material you like for no reason.

Do you really think that Susan Rice is showing up at NSA, telling them she 'has her clearance' and can she now freely look at intel? That's not how it works, people.

Having a clearance does NOT mean you have access or a way to get at classified material. Talk to anyone with an active clearance who is out there looking for work. It is just a status you have, and then you get a job, where they assign you to work and give you access at an as-needed basis.

Rice is not working for the WH anymore. Therefore, just because she has an active clearance does not mean she is looking any cleared material.

CHILL OUT.

Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (uOEHQ)

116 MB infestation allied with NWO Commies. In full effect.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (53MZt)

117 I like my Presidents the way I like my men. Trump just doesn't do it for me. No tingle up the leg. And I suspect he's the one who stole my toupee.

Posted by: H. R. McMasters at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (xAvrH)

118 Can someone identify something I've said they disagree with? Somebody really excited by the prospect of Rick Perry at DHS?

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (wLtG0)

119 113 Same troll over on CTH. Must be a professional.
Posted by: Lace Wigs at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (B9t7n)

Same nic?

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (RD7QR)

120 This is like "Types-Deletes" nightmare fuel.

Just pure blood pressure up to 11 article, LOL.

Posted by: Max Power at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (q177U)

121 Pepe, ProgressOverPeace / PrimordialOrderedPair explains it pretty well. Barky was a "suicide bomber on his run". he didn't take a side between Sunni or Shia. he took the side that assured the most anti American Sunni would take charge in Sunni nations, and the most anti American Shia in Shiite nations. in Syria he supported a civil war that ensured the worst of all sides.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (WukiS)

122 Are leaks good or bad?

The Rice letter was sent in the clear, via snail mail to Rice's home. It's not a "leak" if the information is that public.

How do you verify the accuracy of leaks?

Lots of ways. Good old fashioned police work is one, and that's not hard. Contact multiple people, compare their stories, compare those stories to known events, try and get the original information, try and get meta-information (like the Post Office taking pictures of every piece of mail), etc.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (jhqr1)

123 Don't feed the troll

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (+7/1f)

124 Troll alert.
------
Actually, sounds like an honest libertarian,
isolationist (and/or pro-Putin) nut who convinced himself Trump said he
was one too. They were upset about the Syria air base strike too.

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (nlbfN)

125 Nah, I read too many Mitch Rapp books
Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2017 03:15 PM (7HtZB)

-----

**high five**

Ive read em all.

But Im not going to see the movie.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (8XRCm)

126 Jared and Ivanka and McMaster in charge. Why pretend he's the victim of his own staffing?

So this Genius is grouping McMaster ( who it is alleged is anti-Israel) in with Kushner a Zionist? That is some pretty good troll logic there? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (5y11N)

127 And now i hear Mueller wants a grand jury for Muh Rusha!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (fA1SL)

128 Yeah I was about to say that moby is less the "concerned Christian conservative" and more the pretend to be conservative and then say something like "I hate black people" and then when all the people on the site agree to "see they're all racists!"
Posted by: Buzzion


There are actually two different distinct variants of moby - -the kind you describe, and the concern-trolling type.

Moby Type A -- The Concern Troll:
"As a Republican Christian Conservative, I'm beginning to see the upsides to socialism and realize that Trump has betrayed me."

Moby Type B -- The Extremism Firestarter:
"These illegal immi-grunts is pissin' me off! I'm gettin' my shotgun and going huntin' for Mexicans! Who wants to join me?"

Posted by: zombie at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

129 115 OK, I used to have a Top Secret clearance, so I think I can say with some kind of authority...just because you have an active clearance, doesn't mean you are regularly able to access any top secret material you like for no reason.

Do you really think that Susan Rice is showing up at NSA, telling them she 'has her clearance' and can she now freely look at intel? That's not how it works, people.

Having a clearance does NOT mean you have access or a way to get at classified material. Talk to anyone with an active clearance who is out there looking for work. It is just a status you have, and then you get a job, where they assign you to work and give you access at an as-needed basis.

Rice is not working for the WH anymore. Therefore, just because she has an active clearance does not mean she is looking any cleared material.

CHILL OUT.
Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (uOEHQ)

=============

Ok then. So what's your read on keeping so many Obama holdovers and firing so many Trump appointees?

Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (4ljGz)

130 Time for a Trump you are fired purge on this tool and other Ozero holdover dicks.

Posted by: grnberet at August 03, 2017 03:20 PM (9qgwW)

131 juggs

juggs

j u g g s

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:20 PM (mf5HN)

132
Normally, I chalk shit like this up to MFM disinformation. But his actions are what counts.

Therefore, fire his ass now and rehire everyone he fired with promotions.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:20 PM (mbhDw)

133 >>OK, I used to have a Top Secret clearance


I have 'Q' Clearance.

Posted by: Archer at August 03, 2017 03:20 PM (hLhtd)

134 K-E, if she doesn't use her clearance then she doesn't need it and shouldn't mind if she loses it.

I used to work with HHS so I had some (low) clearance. now, I don't. and I didn't ASK to keep what is no longer my business.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (WukiS)

135 You know who else went by the initials H.R.?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (JO9+V)

136 We ought to have a "I am concerned Conservative" thread and everybody play. That would be fun.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (iVOAv)

137 It boggles what is left of my mind that Rice has retained security clearance. That is enough for me.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (J5mzk)

138 There is no S in McMaster

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (ABWXA)

139 131 j u g g s
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:20 PM (mf5HN)


What about Mother and Speed?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (mbhDw)

140 124 Troll alert.
------
Actually, sounds like an honest libertarian,
isolationist (and/or pro-Putin) nut who convinced himself Trump said he
was one too. They were upset about the Syria air base strike too.
Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (nlbfN)

====================

Yeah, there's a buttload of them out there. Bull Durham on CTH is one of them.

Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (4ljGz)

141 Oh I give up.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (mf5HN)

142 It boggles what is left of my mind that Rice has retained security clearance. That is enough for me.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (J5mzk)

But but But she served with honor and distinction?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (5y11N)

143 Is this thread troll infested?

Posted by: IC at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (a0IVu)

144 McMaster has always bucked the system and fortunate for him whether by luck or skill, his various push backs have been proven mostly correct.

If the current reporting is accurate, seems like his push back now is insubordination rather than out of the box thinking.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:22 PM (/8r1I)

145 You describe the system as it is supposed to work.

Having a letter from McMaster saying yeah, you have a "need to know" whatever you *want* to know kind of goes around that system, especially if the people who are charged with enforcing the requirement are political and in the tank too.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 03, 2017 03:22 PM (PFy0L)

146 j u g g s

Posted by: alexthechick



You have my attention.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:22 PM (gIRsn)

147 ♫Troll on highway, Troll on along
Troll on daddy till you get back home
Troll on family, Troll on crew
Troll on momma like I asked you to do
And Troll on eighteen-wheeler troll on ....TROLL ON!!! ♫

Posted by: fixerupper at August 03, 2017 03:22 PM (8XRCm)

148 Peter than he was yesterday. Thanks for your prayers. They mean a lot.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (iVOAv)

Should be "Better" not Peter

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:22 PM (iVOAv)

149 What about Mother and Speed?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (mbhDw)



I had a quite witty joke set up but I keep getting your message looks like spam.

I'm feeling really judged over here and not in the happy fun way.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:23 PM (mf5HN)

150 143. Chamber of Commerce, first week of the month.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 03, 2017 03:23 PM (fA1SL)

151 Just because someone is a former general, doesn't mean they can't be a Progressive Asshole.

Never assume otherwise.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 03, 2017 03:23 PM (ve0bY)

152 That was way too hard to post.

Pixy kept telling me I was a spammer and I had to edit about three times before he would let me post.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:23 PM (gIRsn)

153 McMasters Sent Susan Rice a Letter in April Telling Her He'd Let Her Keep Her Security Clearance

Het, watch it, Ewok Boy, that's my wife you're talking about! Oh wait.

Posted by: Cass Sunstein at August 03, 2017 03:23 PM (xAvrH)

154 the american military is corrupt and poopy anymore

it was just a matter of time i guess


Posted by: happyfeet at August 03, 2017 03:23 PM (mLfQi)

155 >>> Time for a Trump you are fired purge on this tool and other Ozero holdover dicks.

Again worth noting that, as an example, VA Secretary Shulkin is an "Obama appointee". I have no issue with not referring to people as 'holdovers'.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (Cee0K)

156 Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (uOEHQ)

I bet you said the same thing about Sandy 'socks' Berger.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (/8r1I)

157 I had a quite witty joke set up but I keep getting your message looks like spam.
======

No matter what I try to post, I'm getting that message.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (vg8iE)

158 Sweep the 3rd Leg!

Posted by: garrett at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (hLhtd)

Almost spewed doritos on my screen.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (tbOMB)

159 121 Pepe, ProgressOverPeace / PrimordialOrderedPair explains it pretty well. Barky was a "suicide bomber on his run". he didn't take a side between Sunni or Shia. he took the side that assured the most anti American Sunni would take charge in Sunni nations, and the most anti American Shia in Shiite nations. in Syria he supported a civil war that ensured the worst of all sides.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (WukiS)

Thanks for your reply.

It seems to me that the other endgame was not only war against US interests, at home and abroad, but also to set the Middle East on fire and drag us into a war with Russia by destabilizing the ME. Seems to have been trillions of dollars at stake in this agenda and it was planned over a decade in advance. Is this on the right track?

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (XFue2)

160 re 149: using the word "manatee" might make someone suspect you're really Michael Moore

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (ILitO)

161 And this time it worked.

UGH

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (vg8iE)

162 "Pixy kept telling me I was a spammer and I had to edit about three times before he would let me post."

Me too! I think the spam detector has been dialed up to 11.

Posted by: Chris M at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (eAZVt)

163 That was way too hard to post.

Pixy kept telling me I was a spammer and I had to edit about three times before he would let me post.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:23 PM (gIRsn)



*clings to Bander's ankle*

*I mean, more than usual*

*which is a whole really lot*

*all y'all should feel sorry for him, you really should*

SO IT'S NOT JUST ME!


Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (mf5HN)

164 Remember, McMaster owes his career to Petraeus. He would not even be a Generalhad Petraeus not intevened to get him promoted.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 03, 2017 03:25 PM (uiwCw)

165 Many were shocked to read The Gateway Pundits report on National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster firing President Trump loyalists such as Ezra Cohen-Watnick, without President Trump knowing.

Jordan Schachtel of Conservative Review reported Thursday, news of the firings have finally made their way inside the Oval Office, and the President is furious.

Yeah? I'd like to see someone, anyone, actually go on the record with this stuff? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:25 PM (5y11N)

166 Donnie Two Scoops needs to wish this clown into the cornfield.

Posted by: rickl at August 03, 2017 03:25 PM (xjiRE)

167 #124 I guess my #124 is proven wrong by #87; yeah, a concern troll although whether leftist or NeverTrump, I don't know. (Suspect NeverTrumper however.)

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at August 03, 2017 03:25 PM (nlbfN)

168 OK, I used to have a Top Secret clearance, so I think I can say with some kind of authority...just because you have an active clearance, doesn't mean you are regularly able to access any top secret material you like for no reason.

Do you really think that Susan Rice is showing up at NSA, telling them she 'has her clearance' and can she now freely look at intel? That's not how it works, people.

Having a clearance does NOT mean you have access or a way to get at classified material. Talk to anyone with an active clearance who is out there looking for work. It is just a status you have, and then you get a job, where they assign you to work and give you access at an as-needed basis.

Rice is not working for the WH anymore. Therefore, just because she has an active clearance does not mean she is looking any cleared material.

CHILL OUT.


You're talking about your experience within a set and designed system. People with clearance letters from highly placed politicians are not the same as someone in the Military doing day to day work within a very regimented system.

Look at what we know about the Sandy Berger incident. He actually did waltz into a highly classified information repository and demand to look at stuff. And he just as casually waltzed out with papers secreted on his person. Not really similar to your experience I'd guess, and yet it happened.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:25 PM (jhqr1)

169 And now they say Mueller has impanelled a grand jury for muh rusha!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 03, 2017 03:25 PM (fA1SL)

170 What the hell pixy, I am not a spammer.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (mf5HN)


You too?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (hLRSq)

171 using the word "manatee" might make someone suspect you're really Michael Moore
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (ILitO)



That's a Raptoring AND a visit from the Parallamas AND a strafing run from the Flying Manatee Brigade.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (mf5HN)

172 MB infestation allied with NWO Commies. In full effect.

++

That is also misdirection. Just enough is fed our way to get us to make those connections. It's a very easy manipulation. We then make public charges that are smacked down and the perp walks.n

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (k0L50)

173 No matter what I try to post, I'm getting that message.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (vg8iE)

Just don't copy and past the Trolls tag/nic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (5y11N)

174 Trump better save his presidency or be prepared to end up removed in a unconstitutional coup.

Trump needs to clean house of all generals who ass kissed their way up in Bush and Obama Presidential terms. That is 16 years worth.

Promote younger ones who are loyal first to the Republic, not to globalism, NATO, and god knows what else. Bring back ones who lost their jobs that actually tried to save us from the last 16 years of incompetence and treason.

Start with the military, pentagon and intelligence agencies, etc. Trump should have done it on day one.

Last don't worry about the GOP congress freaking out. Let them...that is all they know how to do, and if they go beyond that then they are finished as a political party.

Maybe we are finished as a country, but it it time we find out who is on whose side now! This is what we elected Trump to do, now do it. He wants his statue...this is his biggest chance yet.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (MuTTO)

175 Ok then. So what's your read on keeping so many Obama holdovers and firing so many Trump appointees?

Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 03:19 PM (4ljGz)

I think a significant part of the problem is the slow pace of appointments in mid-level positions. You don't want to completely disrupt the bureaucracy, especially since the transition is typically timely.

However, given the level of active opposition against the current legitimately elected administration, I believe a complete, immediate SMOD wipeout of all OShithead holdovers is warranted.
PDT gave these assholes 6 months to transition in an orderly manner.Fuck them, and the bureaucracy.Maybe we will find out the effects aren't so bad.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (8iiMU)

176 Ohm BTW, Mudd being happy because outward circumstances are going entirely well is not the same as Christian joy. When we identify our walk with God entirely by outward circumstances, we set ourselves up for a fall. My faith is very strong and I trust in God.
I'm not bouncing up and down like a happy Snoppy cartoon and I would be glad if some circumstances changed, by Christ is Lord nevertheless.

I say "Name it and claim it" is not deep Christian theology but is materialism with a whiff of Scripture

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (iVOAv)

177 Rice is not working for the WH anymore. Therefore,
just because she has an active clearance does not mean she is looking
any cleared material.

CHILL OUT.


Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM (uOEHQ)

Hey! We didn't get a harumph out of this guy!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 03, 2017 03:27 PM (tbOMB)

178 149 What about Mother and Speed?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:21 PM (mbhDw)


I had a quite witty joke set up but I keep getting your message looks like spam.

I'm feeling really judged over here and not in the happy fun way.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:23 PM (mf5HN)


I got the same message because "ugg" is a spam alert.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:27 PM (mbhDw)

179 164 Remember, McMaster owes his career to Petraeus. He would not even be a Generalhad Petraeus not intevened to get him promoted.
Posted by: Country Singer at August 03, 2017 03:25 PM (uiwCw)

True but his actions in Iraq should have had him promoted but for some reason he was denied. Like to know the reasons.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:27 PM (/8r1I)

180 You know who else went by the initials H.R.?

H.R. Pufnstuf?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:27 PM (jhqr1)

181 This kind of thing is not why I voted for President Trump. It is apparent that he needs better advice. I'm thinking Ted Cruz or Louie Gohmert.

Posted by: Eromero at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (zLDYs)

182 Me, that's who. Did 18 months in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, so I got that going for me.

Posted by: H.R. Haldeman, Nixon's Chief of Staff at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (JO9+V)

183 Time for a Trump you are fired purge on this tool and other Ozero holdover dicks.

Again worth noting that, as an example, VA Secretary Shulkin is an "Obama appointee". I have no issue with not referring to people as 'holdovers'.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 03:24 PM (Cee0K)

Yes, it's becoming clear that even if Trump fires McMaster and every remaining Obama "holdover", who is going to replace them? Who is in the bullpen or on the bench?
More of the same....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (7uYFy)

184 Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (MuTTO)

Why include Bush in that rant? He had no agenda in promoting progressive officers.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (/8r1I)

185 Yeah? I'd like to see someone, anyone, actually go on the record with this stuff? Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:25 PM (5y11N)



That's my new rule, Anything unsourced is a lie, no matter if I find the reporters generally credible and particularly if the story plays to something I want to believe in the first place.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (mf5HN)

186 H.R. Pufnstuf?


H.R. Haldeman?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (gIRsn)

187 I looked up pics of Sandy Berger. not sure he was fit for a waltz. I bet he loves meringue though.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (WukiS)

188 Did 18 months in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison,
=========

Go on....

Posted by: Shep! at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (vg8iE)

189 I guess my #124 is proven wrong by #87; yeah, a concern troll although whether leftist or NeverTrump, I don't know. (Suspect NeverTrumper however.)

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail


There's a difference?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (AM1GF)

190 You know who else went by the initials H.R.?


Harry Reems?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (7uYFy)

191 any general promoted by Obola is suspect, at best.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (a66nm)

192
"Ok then. So what's your read on keeping so many Obama holdovers and firing so many Trump appointees?"

Maybe the appointees are no longer needed. Maybe they didn't have the depth of knowledge required. Maybe certain problems were solved for which these people had expertise. Maybe they were only going to be there temporarily in the first place so Trump has an NSC that was operating - as in, I'll work for you for six months, but then I have to go back to my family, life, etc.

Do you really think that Trump is so stupid that he would willingly keep people around who were detrimental to the security of this nation? Isn't there just some small chance that some 'holdovers' were not in decision-making positions under Obama, but were people who put together reports or gave input?

The freak outs are so ridiculous. Remember 2 months ago when Bannon was going to be pushed out? When Kushner was a globalist and actively working against MAGA? When you wondered why in the hell Trump kept Comey on as FBI director?

Trump is not stupid. If YOU think you are smart enough to see this is 'bad' with no billionaire status or degree from an ivy league school, then why can't you believe Trump is capable of seeing this?

Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (uOEHQ)

193 I posted this in the last thread, but some nice things that are happening behind the scenes in the Trump presidency:


https://pjmedia.com/blog/liveblogevent/ thursdays-hot-mic-18/entry-211690/

(Delete the space behind "thursdays")

Posted by: Max Power at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (q177U)

194 moby

An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question.


I'm guessing that the reason left wing scum were so successfull with their "march through the institutions" is that they were mobys. But they are arrogant and stupid.

They didn't realize that with the rise of the internet, it becomes 1000x easier to point out that X is a moby to other people, and thus innocculate them to mobyism. Even mobyism occurring in meatspace.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (xAvrH)

195 WTF! Isn't there anyone awake at the WH? Don't they read this blog, and know what we want them to be doing?!

Posted by: goon at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (EaQ6/)

196 Peter than he was yesterday. Thanks for your prayers. They mean a lot.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:17 PM (iVOAv)

That's good. Will keep nagging God about it.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (hMwEB)

197 I sent Bill to Chappaqua Liquors hours ago! Where is he?! I'm under the label!

Posted by: Persistent Hillary at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (javzI)

198 I never watched that show where they kept going on about "who shot H.R."

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (gIRsn)

199 This plus Mueller plus hawaiian judges plus leakers plus Ninth Circus plus the Obamanations and their work = soft coup, trending toward the real deal.
Forecast is for partly seditious conditions nation-wide, with scattered areas of open revolt.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (fA1SL)

200 "Trump better save his presidency or be prepared to end up removed in a unconstitutional coup."


There's a Constitutional type of coup?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (hLRSq)

201 Oh I give up.
Would it help if I massaged your jugs, AtC?

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (nlbfN)

202 191 any general promoted by Obola is suspect, at best.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (a66nm)


THIS.

He purged the entire flag officer corps at DoD and JCS and replaced them with lackeys and sycophants. If McMaster is one of them, he is NOT to be trusted at all and should never have been hired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

203 and Cruz is useless, a tool of feel-good Republicrat buncombe. he voted for the Russia sanctions AND the bill to make the Israel boycott a federal felony. I would not listen to his advice on foreign policy.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (WukiS)

204 F I R E MC M A S T E R S N O W

Jesus H. Christ.

C'mon John Kelly. Write up the fucking pink slip.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (4AVeu)

205 Isn't there anyone awake at the WH? Don't they read this blog, and know what we want them to be doing?!
Posted by: goon at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (EaQ6/)

Actually I have a hunch some so

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (5y11N)

206 200 "Trump better save his presidency or be prepared to end up removed in a unconstitutional coup."


There's a Constitutional type of coup?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (hLRSq)


That's like brutal murder or vicious attack.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

207 Drudge Siren has up that Mueller is using a new grand jury now (separate from the one looking at Flynn)

Posted by: Revenant at August 03, 2017 03:33 PM (NUNXH)

208 There's a Constitutional type of coup?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (hLRSq)

I'll allow it.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at August 03, 2017 03:33 PM (KUaJL)

209 There's a Constitutional type of coup?

The 1966 Lincoln Constitutional hardtop was a fine automobile.

Posted by: car aficionado at August 03, 2017 03:33 PM (+INtM)

210 205 Isn't there anyone awake at the WH? Don't they read this blog, and know what we want them to be doing?!
Posted by: goon at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (EaQ6/)

Actually I have a hunch some so
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (5y11N)


Ivanka is Average Joe!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:33 PM (mbhDw)

211 Why include Bush in that rant? He had no agenda in promoting progressive officers.
Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:29 PM (/8r1I)

----------------------------------

He did...Petraeus being number one on the list.

No agenda = incompetence.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:33 PM (MuTTO)

212 Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:26 PM (MuTTO)

There's a reason all of this crap has accelerated exponentially. Trump is probably mulling over what to do TBH. Changing matters is going to be unpopular with everyone

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 03, 2017 03:33 PM (k0L50)

213 BTW, Jugs are a type of shoe, aren't they???

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (nlbfN)

214 207. Yep. Over at wsj. That's what pegged my rage-meter.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (fA1SL)

215 I hope the Mueller grand jury is going to Jared because that reedy voiced weenie has to go.

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (wLtG0)

216 Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (hMwEB)

LOL. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (iVOAv)

217 He purged the entire flag officer corps at DoD and JCS and replaced them with lackeys and sycophants. If McMaster is one of them, he is NOT to be trusted at all and should never have been hired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

Not really, but he had an effect.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (5y11N)

218 207 Drudge Siren has up that Mueller is using a new grand jury now (separate from the one looking at Flynn)
Posted by: Revenant at August 03, 2017 03:33 PM (NUNXH)


For what, pray tell?! Fine time for PDT to go off on vacay.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (mbhDw)

219 So glad Sessions recused himself, imagine the stress e would have endured at Democrat Senators saying he should recuse himself.

Now we get this shit show that could bring the whole Administration down.

Posted by: Maritime at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (ycAdZ)

220 I think he should fire McMasters and Mueller.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:35 PM (iVOAv)

221 I think the Troll is an anti-semite, but that would fit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:35 PM (5y11N)

222 217
Not really, but he had an effect.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (5y11N)

I can handle being fake but accurate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:35 PM (mbhDw)

223 190 You know who else went by the initials H.R.?

________________________________________

Harry Reid?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2017 03:35 PM (4AVeu)

224 My flattop haircut was a hit with the fellas inside.

Posted by: H.R. Haldeman, Nixon's Chief of Staff at August 03, 2017 03:35 PM (JO9+V)

225 On the one hand, you really can't fire everybody.

On the other hand, a "Wednesday Night Massacre" of about five hundred DeepStaters all at once, with McMaster at the head of it, might begin to adjust certain people's attitudes quite effectively.

Especially if done with the line "more will follow."

Posted by: filbert at August 03, 2017 03:35 PM (s5o+q)

226 You know who else went by the initials H.R.?

-----

Heather Radish ??

Posted by: fixerupper at August 03, 2017 03:35 PM (8XRCm)

227 What the fucking fuck?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (QQ+il)

228 Here we go. WSJ is reporting that Mueller has impaneled a grand jury over the Russia probe according to CNN.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (/tuJf)

229 a constitution coup: if the Dems take back Congress next year...

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (ILitO)

230 Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:30 PM (uOEHQ)

You're the one who is freaking out. Trump still has a problem with leaks. He still has huge staffing issues where his agenda is being contradicted on a continued basis. Where's the formal order on Transgenders. Bannon was dismissed by McMaster from the NSC if you recall.

Trump has to get his staffing shit together stat.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (/8r1I)

231 There's a Constitutional type of coup?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (hLRSq)
-----------------------------------------------------

American Revolution...


Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (MuTTO)

232 Pro tip for lurkers who decide to comment. when you don't know something or don't pretend to know something and post, admit that you don't and ask a question. Because you may come off as a troll. Plus, the members of the Horde are good people and adults and wont shame you for not knowing and asking questions about a complex matter.

Just my 2 cents from experience.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (XFue2)

233 225 On the one hand, you really can't fire everybody.

On the other hand, a "Wednesday Night Massacre" of about five hundred DeepStaters all at once, with McMaster at the head of it, might begin to adjust certain people's attitudes quite effectively.

Especially if done with the line "more will follow."
Posted by: filbert at August 03, 2017 03:35 PM (s5o+q)


Which agency is the most corrupt/dangerous to the agenda?

State Dept. Fire an entire floor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (mbhDw)

234 Trump was the real outsider who won in Nov 2016. Remember all the cashiered higher ranking military officers dumped during the previous admin? Ever see that most of the officers who seem to support Trump openly are Lt Col 's and lower ranks? To rise to Colonel and above requires sign off from political leaders and those political leaders are atrocious and dishonorable for the their part. Trump does not have the bench to choose from for the positions he needs and he does not seem to control the entities within the national security apparatus who give out the clearances. I think Trump is being hamstrung because he won't read from the script that the natsec apparatus presents. Bannon stands for something better and his allies are being run out. Besides McTumor endorsed McMaster and that's bad on its face. The previous admins really sowed the seeds of war and the combined Repubs and Dems really want to reap the harvest.

Posted by: Suspicious Gorn at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (40ePF)

235 For what, pray tell?! Fine time for PDT to go off on vacay.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (mbhDw)


I'm certain he's in contact with everything.

Jeez, folks; you guys fly off the handle faster than anyone I've ever met.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (hLRSq)

236 232. Sound advice.

TL; DR - lurk moar

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (fA1SL)

237 223
190 You know who else went by the initials H.R.?



________________________________________


Hyman Roth?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (8iiMU)

238 Would it help if I massaged your jugs...?

I'm using this line on my wife next time she's mad at me. I would like to be buried at sea please.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (jhqr1)

239 I love how "Don't bomb Syria and get out of Afghanistan" is considered anti-semitic. That really says volumes about the people who support both of those policies.

Posted by: bjstuggs at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (wLtG0)

240 Yeah? I'd like to see someone, anyone, actually go on the record with this stuff"

Well, there's this undated unsecret letter that everyone has seen, except for those who haven't, so... Russia!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (MINbv)

241 oh fuck, a grand jury.

Posted by: ham sandwiches everywhere at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (WukiS)

242 "u g g s" is a funny thing to trigger the spam trigger, even though I know that the boots people used to spam here.

It reminds me of when AOL first came online and I was writing my profile. I said that my interests include saltwater fly fishing.

The filter rejected that because you can't use the letters "twat" in that order.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (gIRsn)

243 How come we can never get members of the Deep State fired?

Posted by: Iblis at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (ufiYm)

244
As a lifelong Democrat voter who crossed the aisle, I can only be saddened by a Grand Jury being impaneled for the prosecution of Donald Trump.

Perhaps it's time that Pence stepped aside for Hillary Clinton to assume his position.

Posted by: Democrat Voter at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (EgwCt)

245 231 There's a Constitutional type of coup?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (hLRSq)
-----------------------------------------------------

American Revolution...


Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (MuTTO)


Not quite, since the Revolution came before the Constitution. But, principles!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (mbhDw)

246 Call me moby.

Posted by: Carly Rae Jepson at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (xAvrH)

247 Trump's biggest mistake was bringing his daughter and son-in-law into the White House. All this crap is flowing downhill from them.

Posted by: ShainS at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (uCcCd)

248 True but his actions in Iraq should have had him promoted but for some reason he was denied. Like to know the reasons.
Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:27 PM (/8r1I)


Conventional wisdom isbecause of his book and the fact that it allegedly peeved a lot of the Army brass. However, I think some of his celebrity went to his head. I dealt with him some when he was the CG at Benning and here's what I can tell you:

1. He's forward thinking in how structurally and technologically the Army should move forward. I never got any indications on any social stances, e.g. he-shes in uniform.

2. Someone who worked in the protocol office told me once that his social budget as CG was off the charts and "exponentially" higher than previous CGs. Wine, food, etc for entertaining guests at Riverside was in abundance and it happened often.

3. A coworker was at a meeting during which McMaster berated a CSM for offering a differing opinion. He said he was appalled by the lack of professionalism and self control that McMaster displayed in that situation. He had admired him to that point, but lost all respect after the incident.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (uiwCw)

249 To rise to Colonel and above requires sign off from political leaders and those political leaders are atrocious and dishonorable for the their part.

That's not true

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (5y11N)

250 Lay off McMasters and Mueller you damn Hobbits.

Posted by: Cock Curious GOP at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (mcI77)

251 118 I already blew up your Gary Cohn argument but you ignored me.

Posted by: kallisto at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (53MZt)

252
You wanna see a bad-ass flattop? Look up images of Deke Slayton. He was one of the original Mercury 7 who got grounded for atrial fib. He became chief of the astronauts, and one was bad ass dude.

They finally let him fly on the Apollo-Soyuz mission, and he was briefly the oldest to fly in space. Followed by John Young and then John Glenn (boo!).

Anyway, just look at some pictures of him in his hayday.

That is the opposite of a Pajama Boy. That's what we used to be made of.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (8O3HH)

253 235 I'm certain he's in contact with everything.

Jeez, folks; you guys fly off the handle faster than anyone I've ever met.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:37 PM (hLRSq)


Hungarian Jew. From Brooklyn. Italian neighborhood. Do the math.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (mbhDw)

254 Would it help if I massaged your jugs, AtC?
Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (nlbfN)



As always, the nobility of the Horde shines through.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

255 H. R.

Hal Roach, who gave us Laurel and Hardy. When she grins, Rachel Madcow reminds me of Stan Laurel as he says "It certainly is."

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:39 PM (ILitO)

256 228 Here we go. WSJ is reporting that Mueller has impaneled a grand jury over the Russia probe according to CNN.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (/tuJf)

Id be shocked if citizens in flyover country and Trump supporters in Blue Areas take this shit if they force Trump out.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 03, 2017 03:39 PM (XFue2)

257 State Dept. Fire an entire floor.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (mbhDw)


RIF them. Reduction In Force.

(OPM web page on this topic is in nic.)

Posted by: filbert at August 03, 2017 03:39 PM (s5o+q)

258 maybe the same legal eagles what thought that trump and co committed TRE2ASON!!! by meeting with Russians at any point intheir political careers have advised him that firing mcmasters would likewise be treason and violate the logan act.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 03, 2017 03:39 PM (AU4SY)

259 On the one hand, you really can't fire everybody.

On the other hand, a "Wednesday Night Massacre" of about five hundred DeepStaters all at once, with McMaster at the head of it, might begin to adjust certain people's attitudes quite effectively.

Especially if done with the line "more will follow."
Posted by: filbert

__________

I would fire a lot more than that and just let them battle it out in court over the next several years. Be worth it just to watch all of them lose their lofts in DC in the meantime with no paycheck.

Posted by: Maritime at August 03, 2017 03:39 PM (ycAdZ)

260 Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:33 PM (MuTTO)

More inaccurate BDS.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:39 PM (/8r1I)

261 Trump is good at temporarily changing the headlines by throwing out something shiny. I think now would be a good time to suck all the oxygen out of the room with something bigly shiny.

Posted by: Max Power at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (q177U)

262 ah the days of badly designed censorware. when Scunthorpe and Penistone were wiped off the map.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (WukiS)

263 My flattop haircut was a hit with the fellas inside.

I liked to rest my balls on his flattop and pretend it was a manicured golf course green.

Posted by: Bubba at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (jhqr1)

264 Hungarian Jew. From Brooklyn. Italian neighborhood. Do the math.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (mbhDw)


Now I want goulash and cannolis, you bastard.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

265 Meanwhile, I've been attempting to assemble a set of damned pet steps so our elderly kitty can get on the bed at night by herself.

I've been at it for an hour.

Where is Lord Shelvington when I need him?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (PY9jH)

266 If they try out forceTrump out I'm picking up a shovel
(Don't have a gun) and heading to D.C.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (iVOAv)

267 Screw AOL!!! They got me too!

Posted by: Sal T. Water at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (nlbfN)

268 Amazing ho the DOJ is able to get a Grand Jury going for this nonsense but somehow Trump as President still can't touch people like Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Maritime at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (ycAdZ)

269 I think its for Don Jr....

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (wGbBR)

270 264. Leave the gun. Take the goulash and paprikash and the cannoli.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (fA1SL)

271 Hungarian Jew. From Brooklyn. Italian neighborhood. Do the math.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (mbhDw)

Now I want goulash and cannolis, you bastard.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

*Gets in line*

Sounds good to me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (3OIiX)

272 Jeez, folks; you guys fly off the handle faster than anyone I've ever met."

Seems that some just hover over the handle. Makes it easier to fly...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (MINbv)

273 Drudge just put up a note that SP has empanelled a grand jury.

Posted by: Knaws at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (8X9tr)

274 261 Trump is good at temporarily changing the headlines by throwing out something shiny. I think now would be a good time to suck all the oxygen out of the room with something bigly shiny.
Posted by: Max Power at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (q177U)


Recognizing Jerusalem as the Israeli capital and moving the embassy. That will cause a reaction of "Acostified" proportions.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (mbhDw)

275 217 He purged the entire flag officer corps at DoD and JCS and replaced them with lackeys and sycophants. If McMaster is one of them, he is NOT to be trusted at all and should never have been hired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

Not really, but he had an effect.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:34 PM (5y11N)

Clinton had a HUGE effect on the Officers in the Military... and the Senior NCOs.... started destroying the traditions and culture...

From friends still in, Bush never rolled that back...

Obama put it on steroids...

That's 24 Years of 'PC'.... with no real roll back.... ergo the Senior Officers of today, don't really know anything different...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (NgKpN)

276 Just my 2 cents from experience.

Posted by: Widepsread Pepe at August 03, 2017 03:36 PM (XFue2)

And links to boobie pics are mandatory on your first post.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (tbOMB)

277 the Parallamas

Are they related to Lorenzo or the funny deer?

Posted by: DaveA at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (FhXTo)

278 271 Hungarian Jew. From Brooklyn. Italian neighborhood. Do the math.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (mbhDw)

Now I want goulash and cannolis, you bastard.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

*Gets in line*

Sounds good to me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (3OIiX)


Bracciole and palcintas?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (mbhDw)

279 >>>He purged the entire flag officer corps at DoD and JCS and replaced them with lackeys and sycophants.

I think all your rage stroking has affected your memory.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (Cee0K)

280 also, McMaster flipped a table at Summer camp.......

Posted by: Arbuthnot Periwinkle at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (ihtYN)

281 There's a Constitutional type of coup?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2017 03:31 PM (hLRSq

------------------------------------------------------

And yes I know the U.S. Constitution happened after the American Revolution.

But it was based on English legal thinking going back to Magna Carta, another coup that created a new constitutional vision of what a nation state is.

So a constitutional coup is one that creates a new and better constitution.

How do you like that explanation?

Note: I meant to say "soft coup" for those who need further information.

This is a constitutional "soft coup"...it is called impeachment.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (MuTTO)

282 Are they related to Lorenzo or the funny deer?
Posted by: DaveA at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (FhXTo)



Yes.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

283 261 Trump is good at temporarily changing the headlines by throwing out something shiny. I think now would be a good time to suck all the oxygen out of the room with something bigly shiny.
Posted by: Max Power at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (q177U)

================

Maybe that's what the "Big Announcement" this evening is for???

Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (4ljGz)

284 >>>> sent an official letter giving her unfettered and continuing access to classified information
.
.
.Why does she need access? Smelling a big leaker here.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (0pcwX)

285 Great, so now another Scooter Libby type will go down, while Hillary, Comey, Lerner, Lynch, Rice et al. get off scott free.
WTF is taking Sessions so long to go after these guys? Why are we the ones always taking it in the balls?
When is the law going to work for our side?

Posted by: Iblis at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (ufiYm)

286 You wanna see a bad-ass flattop? Look up images of Deke Slayton...That is the opposite of a Pajama Boy. That's what we used to be made of.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (8O3HH)

The flat-top is my favorite look for men, even now. My husband laughs, but this is what men looked like when I was a little girl. Manly men, who fixed cars and farmed and built things and killed copperheads with their bare hands and provided for their families. So, so sexy.

Posted by: April at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (e8PP1)

287 the Senior Officers of today, don't really know anything different...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (NgKpN)

I don't think that is true. Most Senior Officers I know are still pretty Conservative and DO know the difference

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (5y11N)

288 280 also, McMaster flipped a table at Summer camp.......
Posted by: Arbuthnot Periwinkle at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (ihtYN)


But did he stick his yutzik in a barcalounger?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (mbhDw)

289 e because "ugg" is a spam alert.

That's better than his Average cocksucking, Joe.

Posted by: DaveA at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (FhXTo)

290 Bracciole and palcintas?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (mbhDw)



*waits patiently by the USB port*

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (mf5HN)

291 A coworker was at a meeting during which McMaster berated a CSM for offering a differing opinion. He said he was appalled by the lack of professionalism and self control that McMaster displayed in that situation. He had admired him to that point, but lost all respect after the incident.
Posted by: Country Singer at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (uiwCw)

Warning sign.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (3OIiX)

292 when Scunthorpe and Penistone were wiped off the map
-----

Finally it's happened to me!

Posted by: CeCe Peniston at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (XX86g)

293
The flat-top haircut fits in nicely with those old Marine kepis.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (mbhDw)

294 Jeez, folks; you guys fly off the handle faster than anyone I've ever met.

I'll have you know I fly off the handle at exactly the median value of time from irritant to handle fly-off of all the people you've met.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (jhqr1)

295 Is a spam alert."

But lace wigs are ok...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (MINbv)

296
I remember reading something, during the transition I think, that one of the Deep State Spooks vowed that Trump was gonna spend the rest of his life in jail once they got through with him.

This is that plan unfolding. Trump must be made an example of. Nobody messes with the Washington cartel. They run this country and it's foreign policy and none of us plebes not in the club need apply. And if we do, we get whacked.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (8O3HH)

297 290 Bracciole and palcintas?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (mbhDw)


*waits patiently by the USB port*
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (mf5HN)


Open wide!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (mbhDw)

298 Firings are for 5 PM Friday only.

Posted by: Lester at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (LfJIn)

299 Posted by: Country Singer at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (uiwCw)


I figured it was mostly his pushback against superior's opinions but #3 can provide an explanation for any number of other questions.

Thanks

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (/8r1I)

300 The IC neatly organized the political assassination of Flynn and slipped McMaster into this position. McMaster was recommended by McCain. Connect the dots.

It isn't enough to fire McMaster. An investigation must be opened and if what appears obvious in fact is, he needs to die in prison for espionage.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (dEJuU)

301 FNC reporting Muueller is convening a grand jury. Me thinks this is just a defensive mechanism to thwart Trump from firing him.

Posted by: Soona at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (Fmupd)

302 Hey atc. You do know it's spelled jugs right. One G not two. Unless that is part of the joke, you can avoid the spam bot pick up thinking you're talking about Tom Brady's favorite boots.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (z/Ubi)

303 As always, the nobility of the Horde shines through.
The Horde before bros.
Something like that anyway. I think.

Posted by: Sal T. Water at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (nlbfN)

304 If it's GJ about "The Russian Probe", that might not be a bad thing. Think about it.
And besides, isn't it possible Mueller has assured Trump three times that he's not personally under investigation?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (7uYFy)

305 This is a constitutional "soft coup"...it is called impeachment.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (MuTTO)


Greg, honey, is your coup supposed to be this soft?

Posted by: Babs at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (JO9+V)

306 FNC reporting Muueller is convening a grand jury. Me thinks this is just a defensive mechanism to thwart Trump from firing him.
Posted by: Soona
_______


Yep, like Comey tried to pull before he got fired.

Posted by: Maritime at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (ycAdZ)

307 Jugs Johnson is right!

Posted by: Grump Johnson at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (QQ+il)

308 I'll have you know I fly off the handle at exactly the median value of time from irritant to handle fly-off of all the people you've met.

Median is a dumb measure for that. You want the mode.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (gIRsn)

309

Who is left to trust?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (fceHP)

310 261 Trump is good at temporarily changing the headlines by throwing out something shiny. I think now would be a good time to suck all the oxygen out of the room with something bigly shiny.
Posted by: Max Power at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (q177U)

Pyongyang is bigly & could be glowy.

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (7HtZB)

311 FNC reporting Muueller is convening a grand jury. Me thinks this is just a defensive mechanism to thwart Trump from firing him.
Posted by: Soona at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (Fmupd)

He's got nothing.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (7uYFy)

312 Which agency is the most corrupt/dangerous to the agenda?


This is all IC shit. State sucks their dick.

Posted by: Lace Wigs at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (B9t7n)

313 Interestingly J-U-G-G-S is forbidden by minxy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (QQ+il)

314 Banned AOL sock off in #303. (Rule .303???)

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNisISIS at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (nlbfN)

315 Bracciole and palcintas?

Eewwww. People eat placentas?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (jhqr1)

316 Hungarian Jew. From Brooklyn. Italian neighborhood. Do the math.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:38 PM (mbhDw)

Now I want goulash and cannolis, you bastard.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

*Gets in line*

Sounds good to me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:41 PM (3OIiX)


Bracciole and palcintas?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:42 PM (mbhDw)

Still interested. Flank steak is always good.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (3OIiX)

317 Yeah, big-boobed Liz Claman in a snug pale blue top has asshole Charlie Gasparino on (who I like, actually) and they (and another dude) are speculating on what the announcement is to be about, and what the grand jury is about in Shemp-like proportions.


The freaking cameraman *still* won't pull back a little to display those fine puppies....sigh...




Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 03, 2017 03:47 PM (8iiMU)

318
Open you mouth and close you eyes and you will get a big surprise.

I fell for that once as a little kid. Never again.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:47 PM (8O3HH)

319 302 Hey atc. You do know it's spelled jugs right.

-----

I'm pretty sure the Empress knows all about jugs.

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2017 03:47 PM (7HtZB)

320 23 Tell Trump you think that he should fire McMasters now:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact


Done

Posted by: Flatville Bill at August 03, 2017 03:47 PM (TiIoH)

321 311 FNC reporting Muueller is convening a grand jury. Me thinks this is just a defensive mechanism to thwart Trump from firing him.
Posted by: Soona at August 03, 2017 03:45 PM (Fmupd)

He's got nothing.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 03, 2017 03:46 PM (7uYFy)

================

Thats why you go to grand juries. To manufacture something!

Posted by: Jackal at August 03, 2017 03:47 PM (4ljGz)

322 Open wide!
------

Always.

Posted by: Shep! at August 03, 2017 03:48 PM (XX86g)

323
Kittehs are demanding zee din-din.

BBS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:48 PM (mbhDw)

324 Why does she need access? Smelling a big leaker here.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (0pcwX)


Suggest she cut back on her asparagus and bacon intake.

Posted by: That Guy at August 03, 2017 03:48 PM (JO9+V)

325 It's going to be annoying hearing the Media bray endlessly about this, but maybe it's a sign that there's nothing there. But it is odd that this would come out just as trump is getting ready for a vacation.....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 03, 2017 03:48 PM (7uYFy)

326 Do you suppose that Kelly is under the impression that as the President's Chief of Staff, that McMaster reports to/is subordinate to him?

Dueling Generals!

Posted by: filbert at August 03, 2017 03:48 PM (s5o+q)

327 Open you mouth and close you eyes and you will get a big surprise.

I fell for that once as a little kid. Never again.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:47 PM (8O3HH)

Please tell me this story doesn't involve a hose...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:48 PM (3OIiX)

328 We will support Mr. Mueller's Grand Jury investigation to the hilt.

Posted by: Cock Curious GOP at August 03, 2017 03:49 PM (mcI77)

329 the conversation with foreign leader Mexico and Australia is WP reporting old news, they were leaked in Feb WP reported and now they are reporting it.

Sure Trump is Obama .. Because Obama would have cancelled trans in Millarty, Pairs accord, ended deferred adult for deportation, ended Mexcio policy, cancelled trade agreements TIPP & TPPA.... Oh they were all Obama policies.

Reduced refugees from 125 thousand 2016 to 50 thousand refugees in 2017.
And for the first time in years more refugees into the US are Christians than Muslim. Stricter vetting polices of Visa / refugees. Ended refugees from Syria
Removed " Climate Change" as a mandatory consideration of federal government, killed one Climate Change EPA regulation after another.
Enacting polices to make America a energy superpower
Taken a axe to the regulatory state
Empowered ICE and funded drastic increase in hiring , Defends the border. Started bids on the wall
Dumped Obama's catch and release of illegal aliens. Changed rules on minor illegal aliens.
Bombing the shit out ISIS destroying all their capabilities reducing their territory to grew precedented under Obama.


Posted by: Ann at August 03, 2017 03:49 PM (1ANfd)

330 Oh and also subbed the 'Diversity and Comics' guy when I heard he was a Marine.

Thanks, Ace.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:49 PM (3OIiX)

331 I used to have a Cosmic Top Secret Atomal with CNWDI access.

Really.

But that doesn't help me with what is going on here.

I have yet to see anything other than random accusations that McMaster is refusing to fire Obama holdovers. I don't see it. The Higgins firing may or may not have come from McMaster. And it may or may not have been for the reasons that people are saying. But I see a lot of anonymous "people say" reporting and I don't care if it is in the Free Bacon or Examiner or where it sounds a lot like axe-grinding to me.

In April it was all the rage to say that McMaster was a way for Petraeus to really be in charge of the Trump National Security Council. Higgins is a minion of Petraeus - and so, theoretically is McMaster (but I understand they are not so close after Petraeus crashed and burned). So was this Petraeus on Petraeus action? Is it Petraeus on Trump action? I have read that Trump likes Petraeus, but I don't know that is true. I don't know that ANYTHING I read in the papers is true, because it is all bogus.



Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2017 03:49 PM (dUZhM)

332 Median is a dumb measure for that. You want the mode.

Go check the electric fence or something!

Posted by: Edna Mode at August 03, 2017 03:49 PM (jhqr1)

333 More inaccurate BDS.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:39 PM (/8r1I)

------------------------------------------------------

The Bush family is why the GOP is a useless political party.

If that is BDS then you have BLS

Bush Loyalty Syndrome - Someone who loves the Bush family so much that they see BDS everywhere. Examples: Dana Perino, Jasper the Dog, Ari Fleischer.

BTW: Why does Bush keep hanging out with Clinton all the time?

Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:50 PM (MuTTO)

334 So I'm trying to put some pieces of the puzzle together.

- Democrats/John McCain start getting worried about Trump in early 2016 and use a "Russia scare" as a cover to spy on Trump campaign.

- Dem's hire Fusion GPS to create fake Dossier, McCain retrieves it and conveniently forwards to FBI/Comey, NIA/Brennan

-Trump wins, Dem's/McCain panic. Start Russia collusion story in effort to impeach Trump. McCain especially worried about National Security.

- Dem's/McCain successful on getting first NSC candidate Flynn ousted because he bucked the D.C. Establishment.

- McCain recommends McMaster who is a total establishment guy who, wouldn't you know, wrote a book about pushing back against your own President.

- McCain/McMaster demand of Trump that McMaster has to control of NSC personnel.

- McMaster is hired and slowly but surely pushes out all of Trump loyalists.

Possible Conclusion:
- The Establishment has subverted President Trump on National Security....a silent coup of sorts. Probable source of most national security/foreign relations leaks.

Am I off base here?

Posted by: WisRich at August 03, 2017 03:50 PM (G0vdT)

335 >> Please tell me this story doesn't involve a hose..

No, a bug in the mouth. Older elementary school boy trick on a little naive boy.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:50 PM (8O3HH)

336 As always, the nobility of the Horde shines through.


The Horde before bros.
Something like that anyway. I think.
Posted by: Sal T. Water


--
When it comes to the victory rack? Damn skippy!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2017 03:51 PM (QjxTy)

337 Why does Bush keep hanging out with Clinton all the time?

Because Clinton always has the best drugs, duh.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:52 PM (jhqr1)

338 BTW: Why does Bush keep hanging out with Clinton all the time?
Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:50 PM (MuTTO)

Clinton stole his nose back in 2000 & he's been trying to get it back.

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2017 03:52 PM (7HtZB)

339 Just saw at WZ the big announcement tonight is WV gov is switching parties.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at August 03, 2017 03:52 PM (XX86g)

340 It is frustrating that after all that's happened, getting Trump elected with a majority in both houses, we can't seem to get a major house cleaning.

For some reason, Trump must believe that things will fall apart if there isn't someone in the seats that we know desperately need removing. I know how hard it must be falling into the presidency without the usual bureaucratic machinery behind you, but fuck, anyone knows it's better to have an empty slot than someone working against you.

Time for Trump to take to the internet, find out who his friends are and start hiring people he can count on.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2017 03:52 PM (Zs4uk)

341 Please tell me this story doesn't involve a hose..

No, a bug in the mouth. Older elementary school boy trick on a little naive boy.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:50 PM (8O3HH)

Ugh. Bugs. At least it didn't get creepy.

Cough medicine was my 'surprise'. I guess you do have to trick kids into taking it but...still...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:53 PM (3OIiX)

342 'Victory Rack'


*gazes off into the distance, lost in thought*

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2017 03:53 PM (JO9+V)

343 *waits patiently by the USB port*
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 03:43 PM (mf5HN)


Open wide!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 03:44 PM (mbhDw)

It's a TRAP!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - A Cautionary Tale at August 03, 2017 03:53 PM (0mRoj)

344 Woof! Woof! Grrrr!!!

Posted by: jasper at August 03, 2017 03:53 PM (nlbfN)

345 Prediction: The GOP will lose the 2018 elections bigly.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 03, 2017 03:53 PM (mcI77)

346 A Grand Jury could indict a Kelbasa sandwich if it wanted to.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:53 PM (/8r1I)

347 Rice is not working for the WH anymore. Therefore, just because she has an active clearance does not mean she is looking any cleared material.

CHILL OUT.
Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2017 03:18 PM
~~~~~

Really? Did you read the letter at the link? Wherein McMaster wrote this in his letter to Rice:

"I hereby waive the requirement that you must have a 'need-to-know' to access any classified information..."

Seems to me she can wander in whenever she wants and access whatever she wants because unlike you, she does not need to have a "need-to-know."

Posted by: IrishEi at August 03, 2017 03:54 PM (HiDrR)

348 BTW: Why does Bush keep hanging out with Clinton all the time?
Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2017 03:50 PM (MuTTO)

Clinton stole his nose back in 2000 & he's been trying to get it back.
Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2017 03:52 PM (7HtZB)

That's funny right there.

There's an 'ex president' club that gets together (though Barry hasn't joined, so I heard). They all had the biggest seat at the table and nobody else really understands that job.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2017 03:55 PM (3OIiX)

349 Read "The Slow Motion Coup d' etat" at Legal Insurrection.

After this your head will explode.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 03, 2017 03:55 PM (GIVHg)

350 I'm going to take a break--otherwise i'll just have to repeat my lame comments when Ace puts up a post about Mueller's GJ

Posted by: JoeF. at August 03, 2017 03:55 PM (7uYFy)

351 Conservative Treehouse has an interesting take on this whole McMasters/Rice thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 03:55 PM (iVOAv)

352 When it comes to the victory rack? Damn skippy!

Posted by: rickb223


Because when things go down, we're always ready and willing to lend support!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 03, 2017 03:55 PM (AM1GF)

353 Kelbasa sandwich

Haven't the Croats been through enough, now you're making sammiches out of them?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:56 PM (jhqr1)

354 After this your head will explode.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 03, 2017 03:55 PM (GIVHg)


My doctor put me on a strict regimen of no more than one exploded head per day.

Posted by: filbert at August 03, 2017 03:56 PM (s5o+q)

355 I used to have Top and Bottom Secret clearance.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 03, 2017 03:56 PM (xfb67)

356 I've been a Republican all my life but my friends in DC tell me that everyone knows they have Trump dead to rights. I want to support him but I guess we'll have to let the impeachment process move forward.

Posted by: David Brock for ShareBlue at August 03, 2017 03:56 PM (B9t7n)

357 @352 Are we, or are we not, doing phrasing anymore?

Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2017 03:56 PM (dUZhM)

358 334:

Pretty well my take. God please let McCain feel the heat before he checks out and burns in a hotter Hell.

"301 FNC reporting Muueller is convening a grand jury. Me thinks this is just a defensive mechanism to thwart Trump from firing him"

I suspect the leak is pre-emptive for what Trump will announce tonight and Sessions tomorrow. We may be in a full-blown hot civil war in a week.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2017 03:57 PM (dEJuU)

359 Oh, good God. This idiot David Assman (or whatever) is asking, "Can this grand jury impeach Donald Trump, or is impeachment through some other venue?"

The guest straightened his ass out, saying it was a House and Senate process.

The stupid, it burns.

BUT, what burns me is that that is being brought up at all. Shit like that tends to lodge in the LIV minds.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 03, 2017 03:58 PM (8iiMU)

360 We may be in a full-blown hot civil war in a week.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2017 03:57 PM (dEJuU)


Can we postpone? I am at the beach next week.

Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2017 03:58 PM (dUZhM)

361 re 346: you're on target. A grand jury can indict a witness if at least half the members of the G J think the person is lying, and they don't really need any evidence. I did grand jury duty years ago, and we indicted one guy who appeared on his own behalf not because we thought he'd be convicted of anything but because we thought he was giving us B S.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 03:58 PM (ILitO)

362 Did anyone ever massage AtC's big uns ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 03, 2017 03:58 PM (ve0bY)

363 We may be in a full-blown hot civil war in a week.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2017 03:57 PM (dEJuU)

My calendar is open

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (5y11N)

364 Are we, or are we not, doing phrasing anymore?
Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2017 03:56 PM (dUZhM)


Define "doing."

Posted by: filbert at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (s5o+q)

365 >> At least it didn't get creepy.

At that age, I didn't know anything about that kind of creepiness.

But that reminds me of something my mother told me. It's been a long time she told me, but she waited until I was an adult.

I was in the hospital -- 1st grade, I think, getting my tonsils out. My mother slept in the room at night and stayed with me the whole time just about.

Anyway, one night while I was asleep she noticed an ambulance driver stop and look in the door at me sleeping the bed. He didn't know she was there, and she was in chair in the dark.

She said she got the creepiest vibe she had ever felt, sending a chill down her spine. She spoke up and the dude said something and left.

Turned out, years later, he was convicted of child molestation. I went to elementary school with the dude's daughter, and I believe she was one of the victims.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (8O3HH)

366 I would get a decent paying job right before a civil war...

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (wGbBR)

367 Well, might as well go pick up some .308 and 9mm. Think I'll buy some more of that freeze dried shit too.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (B9t7n)

368 Hmmm.... actually an interesting question...

Does McMasters even have the authority to GRANT someone a security clearance they do not need?

The National Security Advisor is not in the Constitutional Chain of Command for any of the Departments.

He or she is an appointed Advisor... and does not even need Senate Confirmation.

So... any authority they have, is 'borrowed' from the President.... must be delegated to them from said President....

Posted by: Don Q. at August 03, 2017 04:00 PM (NgKpN)

369 I would get a decent paying job right before a civil war...
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (wGbBR)

Maybe that Confederate Currency will make a comeback?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 04:00 PM (5y11N)

370 I don't think that a Civil War can happen within a week.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 04:00 PM (iVOAv)

371 346 A Grand Jury could indict a Kelbasa sandwich if it wanted to.
Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 03:53 PM (/8r1I)


Ivan Putzke hardest hit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 04:00 PM (mbhDw)

372 IrishEi, #347:

"Did you read the letter at the link? Wherein McMaster wrote this in his letter to Rice:

"I hereby waive the requirement that you must have a 'need-to-know' to access any classified information..."

The rest of that sentence refers to classified information she originated, reviewed, signed or received. Not any classified information whatsoever.

I don't know - I yield to no one in my contempt for Rice, and if McMaster is anti-Israel that's disappointing (though a separate issue), but this is probably administrative SOP.

A new National Security Adviser might need to ask his predecessor about things that went on during her tenure. Keeping her clearance open so that she can review at will anything she did seems like common sense.

As satisfying as it might be for that letter to read, "You are hereby stripped of your clearance and I can't believe it was granted in the first place" (the latter being my personal view of Rice) it could create a lot of extra work.

Posted by: JPS at August 03, 2017 04:01 PM (B2Wdt)

373 363 We may be in a full-blown hot civil war in a week.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2017 03:57 PM (dEJuU)

My calendar is open
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (5y11N)


Let me check. Oh, dang. I have a barbecue next week and a new business pitch the following Monday.

Oh well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 04:01 PM (mbhDw)

374 >>>>23 Tell Trump you think that he should fire McMasters now:



https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact





Done

.
.
.And done.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 03, 2017 04:01 PM (0pcwX)

375 Remember when the government was infested with people whose sympathies lay with the USSR but this became something that only kooks believed? At least that is the conventional wisdom passed down from the lefty MSM and schools as truth. Diane West among others wrote a book about this very thing.

These people weren't communists per se, but saw communism as a vehicle to ride to get where they wanted which was a global government as opposed to nation-states. Now there is a shiny new vehicle to ride called Islam. Same destination, different train car, but the same type of infestation. Obama may have another thing in common with FDR.

Posted by: geoffb5 at August 03, 2017 04:01 PM (d3wbb)

376 Well, might as well go pick up some .308 and 9mm. Think I'll buy some more of that freeze dried shit too.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (B9t7n)



Heh. I bought 68 rolls of toilet paper the other day.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 03, 2017 04:01 PM (uiwCw)

377 Does McMasters even have the authority to GRANT someone a security clearance they do not need?

The National Security Advisor is not in the Constitutional Chain of Command for any of the Departments.

He or she is an appointed Advisor... and does not even need Senate Confirmation.



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Then they can be summarily fired by the president.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2017 04:01 PM (QjxTy)

378 "Can we postpone? I am at the beach next week."

I hope for you it's earlier in the week or internal passports get issued quickly.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 03, 2017 04:02 PM (dEJuU)

379 369 I would get a decent paying job right before a civil war...
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (wGbBR)

Maybe that Confederate Currency will make a comeback?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 04:00 PM (5y11N)


Go long on Luap Nor silver dimes and freeze driers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 04:02 PM (mbhDw)

380 Grand juries typically start with issuing subpoenas . Witnesses have to be interviewed. Etc.

Muller is a special counsel, not a special prosecutor. He can't indict anyone except for things like perjury in the course of his investigation.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 03, 2017 04:02 PM (+7/1f)

381 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (8O3HH)

Your mother sounds like a strong. insightful and caring woman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 04:02 PM (iVOAv)

382 I don't think that a Civil War can happen within a week.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke


It could happen tomorrow, under the right circumstances.

I'm really, really wishing I'd had my estate payouts already so I had some scratch when I evac to the safe zones.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 03, 2017 04:02 PM (AM1GF)

383 Does McMasters even have the authority to GRANT someone a security clearance they do not need?

The National Security Advisor is not in the Constitutional Chain of Command for any of the Departments.

He or she is an appointed Advisor... and does not even need Senate Confirmation.

So... any authority they have, is 'borrowed' from the President.... must be delegated to them from said President....
Posted by: Don Q. at August 03, 2017 04:00 PM (NgKpN)

he only granted her access to her own documents from her time at work that she may need to refer to

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 04:02 PM (5y11N)

384 370 I don't think that a Civil War can happen within a week.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 04:00 PM (iVOAv)



I just need to know if we're having the Civil War before or after Labor Day, so I know whether or not I can wear white.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 03, 2017 04:02 PM (gIRsn)

385 Maybe that Confederate Currency will make a comeback?
I knew that 1967 childhood trip to Gettysburg would pay off eventually! Ca-ching!!!

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNisISIS at August 03, 2017 04:03 PM (nlbfN)

386 From Drudge: 4 of the 8 candidates for mayor of Detroit are convicted felons. I wonder if that movie will cover that.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 03, 2017 04:03 PM (Nwg0u)

387 364
Are we, or are we not, doing phrasing anymore?

Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2017 03:56 PM (dUZhM)



Define "doing."

Posted by: filbert at August 03, 2017 03:59 PM (s5o+q)

Is Phrasing easy? I may have to call her.

Posted by: I denouce myself at August 03, 2017 04:03 PM (8iiMU)

388 I don't think the wearing white role applies to men. bander.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 04:03 PM (iVOAv)

389 386 From Drudge: 4 of the 8 candidates for mayor of Detroit are convicted felons. I wonder if that movie will cover that.
Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 03, 2017 04:03 PM (Nwg0u)


Name that party!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 04:04 PM (mbhDw)

390 Well off to home to pack and then down to Portsmouth...Later

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 04:04 PM (5y11N)

391 353 Kelbasa sandwich

Haven't the Croats been through enough, now you're making sammiches out of them?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 03:56 PM (jhqr1)

I thought Keibasa was Ukrainian. It's as close to a Russian meat I could think of when trying to make that joke.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 03, 2017 04:04 PM (/8r1I)

392 From Drudge: 4 of the 8 candidates for mayor of Detroit are convicted felons. I wonder if that movie will cover that.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message


It's Detroit. The other four will catch up soon enough.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 03, 2017 04:04 PM (AM1GF)

393 Prediction: The GOP will lose the 2018 elections bigly.
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Going to be a early night?

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 03, 2017 04:04 PM (4bKiB)

394 N O O D

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 03, 2017 04:04 PM (Cee0K)

395 390 Well off to home to pack and then down to Portsmouth...Later
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2017 04:04 PM (5y11N)


Ciao.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2017 04:04 PM (mbhDw)

396 Did anyone ever massage AtC's big uns ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 03, 2017 03:58 PM (ve0bY)



That's for me and Bander to know and you to not find out.


Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 03, 2017 04:05 PM (mf5HN)

397 Did anyone ever massage AtC's big uns ?
i tried to take photos but she cut my hands off
i'm typing this with my nose

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNisISIS at August 03, 2017 04:06 PM (nlbfN)

398 So why doesn't Trump fire him?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 03, 2017 04:06 PM (sqpGi)

399 >> Your mother sounds like a strong. insightful and caring woman.

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Thank. I'm of course very fond of her myself. Something that really touched me when she was going through all that mess last year, was every one of my cousins told me she was their favorite aunt. Every one, of them, privately, and it was obvious they really meant it.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 03, 2017 04:06 PM (8O3HH)

400 This gasperano clow is nothing but gas

Posted by: E.T. at August 03, 2017 04:06 PM (P1GJy)

401 re 380:

"Muller is a special counsel, not a special prosecutor. He can't indict
anyone except for things like perjury in the course of his
investigation."

and that's all he needs to be able to do to cause five tons of damage to the Trump Admin and family.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 03, 2017 04:07 PM (ILitO)

402 370 I don't think that a Civil War can happen within a week.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2017 04:00 PM (iVOAv)

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Hate to tell you, Fen. A hot civil war has been brewing since the 60's.

Posted by: Soona at August 03, 2017 04:07 PM (Fmupd)

403 I thought Keibasa was Ukrainian. It's as close to a Russian meat I could think of when trying to make that joke.

Keibasa is a Croat surname.

Kielbasa is the Polish sausage.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 03, 2017 04:13 PM (jhqr1)

404 Rice was one of 30+ people who got the Presidential Daily Brief every day. There is probably not much that is important in the intel that is outside of this, "classified information she originated, reviewed, signed or received." And that would include all the unmasked "US persons" that she or others unmasked during Obamas' 8 years.

Posted by: geoffb5 at August 03, 2017 04:16 PM (d3wbb)

405 I just dont see Trump letting this guy McMaster who is a certifiable prick and scheming douche bag--regardless of what ever other titles he may carry on His sleeve--continue on.

ANY body that Rove and Turtle support and proclaim as 'the best' ....you can rest assured that person puts Trump and his agenda in danger.

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved at August 03, 2017 04:26 PM (oBuXO)

406 Trump is a dipshit for appointing this guy. There is no way to rationalize this stupidity. There has been a long string of this horror. He's going to look like an idiot when he fires Mooch and McMaster within weeks or worse keeps Mc master.

Who in the hell would take McCain's word for anything?

If Trump waits to fire Mueller it will be his own grave.

Posted by: jeremiah at August 03, 2017 04:40 PM (DyzwJ)

407 We may be in a full-blown hot civil war in a week.

The 4 cans of 7.62 arrived just in time then.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 03, 2017 04:42 PM (QQ+il)

408 In "Dereliction of Duty", McMasters blames the military for not standing up to White House Policy and presenting better information.
Said White House Policy was driven by Robert McNamara, who said he was out of loyalty to White House Policy - from Kennedy.
Now McMasters is in a position similar to McNamara, working to promote a policy from a previous administration, with no idea how to actually implement it successfully, and blaming Israel much as McNamara blamed the Domino Theory.

Perhaps he should actually read the book he wrote before he commits the same errors he criticized.
Or rather, perhaps he should read his books and McNamara's excuses so he can prepare his own justifications for the subversion of his office.

Posted by: Sam at August 03, 2017 04:55 PM (jHN2F)

409 Grumpy928(c) @ 401- Cans of 7.62!
I love seeing the UPS truck on those days.

Posted by: Eromero at August 03, 2017 05:23 PM (zLDYs)

410 The really are the enemy of this country. They need to be treated as such.

Posted by: Anchovy at August 03, 2017 06:17 PM (c86/W)

411 10 I bet he is the ring leader for the leakers.


I tried to tell people when they were getting excited about how many generals Trump was bringing in. Not so fast. Eight years of Obama thoroughly corrupted the Defense Department, possibly beyond repair. War fighters were shown the door and political hacks and progressive stooges were elevated to replace them.

Posted by: Former MSM journalist, now active moron at August 03, 2017 07:57 PM (fJuD+)

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